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Past Tech RP planning thread.

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Aust
06-01-2006, 19:16
This is the PT world, formed on the 6th on january 2006. Welcome. Your free to join our users in creating a nation and claiming your spot on the map. Rules are available, just TG me for them

Related threads


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=462780 Main Thread
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467366 Aust/Frozopian War
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469653 Terror Incognitia
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=468984 Zanarkaand
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465079 Angermanland
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=468047 Toops/OnN War
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469155 Kilani
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467592 Oda noh Nobunaga
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=468069 Invading India
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464780 Aust
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469168 Hyr
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469120 Invading India


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Otagia
06-01-2006, 20:01
Ooh! Been looking for one of these. Count me in, I'll just stick with medieval Otagia. Very similar to medieval Italy.
Topal
06-01-2006, 20:03
I will join. I know I was part of that other RP, but can I do both?
I will be past Frozopia, a nation that crumbled and formed Topal.
Kirisubo
06-01-2006, 20:05
at last a chance to play Kirisubo properly :)

The Empire of Kirisubo is based on a mix of modern and feudal Japan. Now I can do the full feudal system amd everything that Samurai could do.

A medieval Empire would be based on the great peace that Kirisubo had before the arrival of the black ship. It mostly closed off apart from approved merchants and traders.

Sweet!
Topal
06-01-2006, 20:10
I would be like medieval tech vikings, leading vicious raids on any rich country that is warmer than Frozopia so that one day I can call it home.
Aust
06-01-2006, 21:26
Great ideas, now all you have to do is start a thread detailing you nations activites, just like normal. Except mark it PT, and post the link on here.
Kirisubo
06-01-2006, 23:27
heres the first thread. it covers how the empire was formed out of the ashes of a civil war and how the empire isolated itself creating 'the great peace'.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=462807

its very similar to what happened in feudal japan after their long civil war but not identical.

any medival nation could well have a presence but its more likely that traders or missionaries would be the foreigners most concerned with Shogun Katsushiro's victory given his well known views that all gai-jin (foreigners) should be kicked out of the country.

lets see where this leads us :)
Caladonn
06-01-2006, 23:38
Hello!

I love PT RPs, and a bit of fantasy really adds to it. Count me in and I'll make a thread soon.
Sovietain
07-01-2006, 00:03
I wouldn't mind joining, RPing my nation in olden times, but I certainly won't be having any fantasy in my army.

Are we allowed to have our technology anywhere between ancient Greece and Joan of Arc (or something), or will it be more fixed on one particular time period?

And will people be allowed fantasy stuff like dragons and giants? I don't mind a guy having his nation as one-eyed cyclopsy guys or elves, so long as they don't show much better fighting skills than regular humans, but dragons are godmoding to me.

Oh, and my nation will be like one of the eastern european states, rife with poverty and with a poorly equipped army, using scraps of armour similar to 11th Century equipment (Hastings)
Topal
07-01-2006, 00:05
He said no fantasy.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10218569#post10218569

There we go
The Island of Rose
07-01-2006, 00:12
Does it HAVE to be Mideviel? Can it be Classical Greece?
Taleloron
07-01-2006, 00:17
I'd like to get in on this thread. Taleloron is a sort of Druid/ Warrior-Priest/ Barbarian type nation. Absolute minimal fantasy...maybe a Wiccan or two.
Philanchez
07-01-2006, 00:22
Haha...finally I can RP my nation BEFORE it was Socialist! Yay for the oppressive autocratic absolutist imperialist monarchy of Philanchez!

ill start a thread soon...will be loosely based on many different nations...like absolutist Japan with hostages in Edo, like Classical Greece with wonderful spear based tactics, like France and England with top rate archers and cavalry....note my navy will suck as there wont be one!
Topal
07-01-2006, 00:27
My first raid underway.
Haha long live the longbow!
Callisdrun
07-01-2006, 00:42
I'd like to take part, but my nation has one fantasy element to it. I RP Callisdrun as having Moroii (living vampires) as 15% of the population. Elves are allowed, so I don't think it should be too much of a problem. You said on the other thread no magic, but that's no concern, since Moroii (except when I use them in threads that are very much fantasy) can't do magic, and don't have superpowers (can't fly, aren't immortal). They're only a little different than humans. They are a little stronger in some ways, but a bit weaker in others.

Anyway, you could kind of think of my population as a whole during medeival times as basically like the Vikings, but more centralized, and a bit more gothy.
Taledonia
07-01-2006, 00:48
Haven't done one of these for awhile, but what the heck, I was the one that started the PT craze(under one of my various old nations, City of the Moon) so I'll partake.

I be Rome, as in Republican Rome, after their conquests of Italy.
Topal
07-01-2006, 00:58
Erm it is medieval, you do realise.
Taledonia
07-01-2006, 01:07
Ah medievil, I thought it was open to all past tech, at most medievil. But oh well, it seems this thing is spanning many different threads instead of just one which I assumed, and I have no time to follow all of them, so I must bow gracefully out of this RP.
Aust
07-01-2006, 10:40
It's open to all past tech, Medevil, classical GReece, anything.
USSNA
08-01-2006, 00:08
I will RP this under a nation of my own design. What I dont know. But I do know that it will be a lot different that all the others.

BTW, do you need a map for this?

What of the technology of the time? Steel? large castles?

EDIT: I think a good way to do this is to take out NS pop and all our other stats for our real nation and divide by 100. That gives a person with 1 billion population a medieval pop of around 10 million. That way we dont have a LOTR on our hands.
Kirisubo
08-01-2006, 00:23
i don't think a maps needed. I've placed Kirisubo where Japan was in the maps of the medieval period.

Technology wise some cultures would have developed primitive firearms and it would be stone castles, swords and sailing ship type technology.

Bearing in mind that a large part of the world was still unexplored up to the early 17th century anything is possible.
USSNA
08-01-2006, 00:28
Well You see, I plan to use steel, but it will be expensive and I will also use a form of greek fire if that is acceptable. Those are the only things I am really worried about.
Kirisubo
08-01-2006, 00:30
I don't think anybody would have a problem with greek fire or steel. both were round long before the medieval period started.
Callisdrun
08-01-2006, 03:23
So, Aust, is it ok for me to RP Moroii, since Elves are ok?
Yurka
08-01-2006, 06:21
I think I'd like to get into this. Back when Yurka's island wasn't covered in clouds of radiation. We're located on a large island in the ocean, covered in mountains and forest during this period. Not sure if that would go over well, since it would be a bit hard to run into anyone else. Ah well, I can always go with the conquest route. I wonder which of the 40+ emperors I should use. About what time period is everyone involved using?

EDIT: Ah well I'll use the Emperor during the 1600s for a good mean age. Is black powder at all useable? If not thats fine.
Jenrak
08-01-2006, 06:28
I'm my own Past tech empire. The Barbaric empires of Karbulazk, taken over and named after Herrissian Karbulia.
Aust
08-01-2006, 17:20
I think it's yes for all of those, early black powder is fine. Buit not efective.
Topal
08-01-2006, 17:25
Mine will be British style, Longbows and men at arms and the like. At one stage Im going to try and invent my own completly unique unit (should be interesting). Geographically Im not sure where I am based....
Jenrak
08-01-2006, 17:54
I have my own unique unit, which anyone against me will see soon.
Philanchez
08-01-2006, 23:38
I also have my own unique unit. Philanmen, they use a nifty spear thats six feet long with a foot and a half od sharp steel at the end. My knights use it also...
Aust
09-01-2006, 17:00
Kernak, this isn't a game, if you have a unit others can think of it too. You may do it abtter (As the english did with longbows,) but they can do the same.
Caladonn
12-01-2006, 20:27
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10246981

Here's my thread for Caladonn.

I'm an island nation, so any other nation can contact me by sending ships in my direction. Keep in mind that they'll probably be intercepted several miles from land by my navy, but if your intentions are peaceful then you have nothing to fear.
Aust
13-01-2006, 17:32
Good to see you again mate.
Spooty
13-01-2006, 17:42
Are two foot high midgets acceptable?
Aust
13-01-2006, 18:06
qwot, hobbits? same as with elves.
Spooty
13-01-2006, 18:11
not quite Hobbits, Hobbits are cultured and seem to be based of Medieval Middle Class England, Spoot Halflings are a mix of all the primitive races of Asia/Africa/America/Australia only slightly more advanced.
Caladonn
13-01-2006, 21:37
Good to see you again mate.
Yes, you too... it's been a long time since those WH40k and LOTR RPs hasn't it.
Kirisubo
14-01-2006, 00:31
theres now an OOC discussion thread for PT Kirisubo

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463732

If i can locate a map of the region from 1600 or around that period that can be our guide.

Just maybe someone can discover Australia before the British did ;)
Aust
14-01-2006, 10:48
Yes, you too... it's been a long time since those WH40k and LOTR RPs hasn't it.
Aye, it has.
USSNA
14-01-2006, 14:39
Aust did you ever create a thread for this PT world?

And I dont think anyone responded. I think to keep from things getting out of hand we should limit population and economy stats to our nations divided by 100. A guy with 1 billion pop would have 10 million and so on. It would limit this frombecoming to big or like LOTR.
Aust
16-01-2006, 19:33
Aust did you ever create a thread for this PT world?

And I dont think anyone responded. I think to keep from things getting out of hand we should limit population and economy stats to our nations divided by 100. A guy with 1 billion pop would have 10 million and so on. It would limit this frombecoming to big or like LOTR.
I think it's quite cool to have big nations....

And no I havn't found time to create a thread yet-Corsework take precidence I feel.
[NS::]Reallydrunk
16-01-2006, 20:18
Im would like to enter as Ostia, A Roman Empire based nation that was the founding for my nation now. As it stands now i am in diplomatic relations with Kirisubo with a fleet approaching from the West to fight the Frozipans..i am open to many other ideas..
Philanchez
16-01-2006, 21:30
You dont really have to 'join' in the sense of the word you just start posting with us! Welcome!
[NS::]Reallydrunk
16-01-2006, 21:45
We need a major Rp...i know this..heh..but about what? somthing with battle scenes that stand out, passion...anybody feel me..or where i am going?
Toops
16-01-2006, 21:54
Reallydrunk']We need a major Rp...i know this..heh..but about what? somthing with battle scenes that stand out, passion...anybody feel me..or where i am going?

well according to your screen name you're really drunk so I don't think we're supposed to understand we're just supposed to go "mmm" and smile sweetly :P but really I know what you mean, but it's so difficult to do somthing like that in the NS world, you need commited people who are willing to take thier nation to the brink of destruction but in NS almost everyone wants to be the winner by peacemeal.

(I am Spooty)
Philanchez
16-01-2006, 21:57
Well its possible that me and Frozop(possibly in alliance with a few others) could start attempting to dominate the world...(my first target would be ravea :) )
Spizania
16-01-2006, 22:06
I would actually like to do a Riders of Rohanesque nation, lots of cavalry, lots and lots of cavalry. So im probably on the steppe with mountains thrown in, if thats acceptable.
[NS::]Reallydrunk
16-01-2006, 22:07
Yes, my screen name...a rather short story this is lol. One night i was drunk on the weekend and created this nation LOL, i have had other nations before..New Germainia, Yakuza...but it was the only thing that was on my mind at the time :). I enjoy PT nation Rp'ing..it's different and fun..
The Scandinvans
16-01-2006, 22:23
Can I join as a colony and subject kingdom of Valgard? Also if I can join is it okay if a ruling warrior class of Valgardians can live up to three times the lives normal humans can achieve (about 240 to 300 years on average)?
Aust
17-01-2006, 18:03
I would actually like to do a Riders of Rohanesque nation, lots of cavalry, lots and lots of cavalry. So im probably on the steppe with mountains thrown in, if thats acceptable.
A Rohirriesque nation would be fine-as would your blokes 'The Scandinavians.'
Kanami
17-01-2006, 18:04
I've been looking for a Past RP, whe exactly does this take place, so I know which of my nations historical figures to include.
Topal
17-01-2006, 18:44
Well it leads up to late medieval, but confusingly there are Romans (not byzantines) involved. Just set up an introduction thread with PT in the corner. If you are coastal I will will raid you!
Kirisubo
17-01-2006, 19:36
we're quite a mixed bunch of nations already.

i would say that up to the year 1600 would qualify as late medieval.

once you're past this flintlocks and better blackpowder weapons become available and armour is off very little use anymore.
[NS::]Reallydrunk
17-01-2006, 19:41
OOC: It says PT nations so im pretty sure i can use PT Rome? and the link for my battle with the Frozipans is

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10263648#post10263648
Philanchez
18-01-2006, 01:26
I have a completely blank map and if people want I can edit it and place their borders where they want them...

Map (http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/7622/ptrpworldmap2qy.png)
Aust
20-01-2006, 17:15
Aust is usually in Antartica...but if you put us in Australia then it would be appriciated. (Austians are supposed to be Australian exciles.)
Topal
20-01-2006, 17:19
We using a RL map? That makes things confusing. I dont know how I am supposed to be at least slightly close to the japanese (Kirisubo) and at the same time be a nation based on a massive frozen island. Hm.
Aust
20-01-2006, 17:25
We using a RL map? That makes things confusing. I dont know how I am supposed to be at least slightly close to the japanese (Kirisubo) and at the same time be a nation based on a massive frozen island. Hm.
we could use a RL map, if everyone wants to.
Topal
20-01-2006, 17:29
I'd prefer not too.
Oda noh Nobunaga
20-01-2006, 19:26
heres the first thread. it covers how the empire was formed out of the ashes of a civil war and how the empire isolated itself creating 'the great peace'.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=462807

its very similar to what happened in feudal japan after their long civil war but not identical.

any medival nation could well have a presence but its more likely that traders or missionaries would be the foreigners most concerned with Shogun Katsushiro's victory given his well known views that all gai-jin (foreigners) should be kicked out of the country.

lets see where this leads us :)


Think maybe we should consider some things here...I mean, look at my frikken name: Oda noh Nobunaga. The first of the great unifiers. So, I think I got first dibs on Japan. (jus kiddin, but I would like to talk some things over perhaps...for like future rps and stuff)

Anyway, I am currently having a PT rp, concerning the Sengoku Jidai, the true Historical rp of that long 100+ year civil war when all the fiefs and daimyo (lords) of Japan faught each other in order to gain the Shogunate.

Heres a link to the rp thread: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464192)

And heres a link to the sign up thread for reading the rules:
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463896)

If you care to join, make sure you follow and read carefully that second link. Its important. Arigato gosei-mashta. (crappy enlish word translation of japanese for: Thank you very much)
Kirisubo
20-01-2006, 20:07
Oda Noh Nobunaga, i'm sure we could help each other out since we're dealing with the same source material. Feel free to join in the Kirisuban RP as well since its expanding past what I planned.

regarding a RL map we could use a map of the world but add in land masses to suit NS nations if theres no appropriate place otherwise.

Topal, what about New Zealand as a base of operations?
Topal
20-01-2006, 20:23
Kinda small, but maybe. By the way I revived my Frozopia nation, I will probably start RPing as them once again.
Kirisubo
21-01-2006, 15:19
we can always add in new land masses onto a RL map.

I'm thinking since Frozopia is meant to be a northern country, something about the size of Greenland or larger further east of Siberia may well fit the bill.
Spizania
21-01-2006, 15:58
Id like to take these terriotires, black dots are teh locations of towns with wooden walls, purple are those with Stone Walls, Green is the capital of the kingdom and yelow is a the great fortress of Sparte.
Hope you dont think the territories are excessive

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8409/mapoftheempire1ai.png
Aust
22-01-2006, 18:15
I don't see any problem with that, I apologise that i havn't had time to start a thread.
Philanchez
22-01-2006, 19:33
Updated Map (http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7470/ptrpworldmap5mi.png)

Oh and If you want I can edit it to cut off pieces of land from continents and such or even ad landmasses. Just make a request.

Black=Me
Red=Spizania
Purple/Blue=Aust
Topal
22-01-2006, 19:37
Top right hand corner of the map, a large frozen land mass for me.
Philanchez
22-01-2006, 20:12
Updated (http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/9344/ptrpworldmap3ml.png)
Toops
22-01-2006, 20:32
k, change of plan, the lands due west of Topal, just a bit of it, and make a small island a little way off the Eastern coast please.
Toops
22-01-2006, 20:34
and here is my intro thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464759
Nuralla
22-01-2006, 20:35
Hmm I'm running some past-tech RP myself but WTF?

I'd like to join as my own nation, Nuralla. It is an monarchy, and visiually a mix of knights and chivalry and ancient greece.

I'm having some trouble with my attachment of files, so I can't pu my realm into the map. But it is on the left side of Spizania, average in size and green i color. If anyone could put it onto the map, it would be a tremendous help!
Spizania
22-01-2006, 20:45
My Intro was posted a while ago, i cant remember what the link is so search for "The Lands of Spizania" or something,
Toops
22-01-2006, 20:57
the search button is broken so I just searched all your threads, here it is by the way

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464240
Philanchez
22-01-2006, 21:01
updated (http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/5756/ptrpworldmap6sy.png)
Toops
22-01-2006, 21:13
just in case I ever get round to RPing as the Spooty again could I stake a claim to a small piece of land to the North of the sea of Azov and East of Spizania, in Orange if possible.
Aust
22-01-2006, 21:50
Where a bit spread out, arn't we.
Toops
22-01-2006, 21:59
well Europe seems to be building up nicely.
Oda noh Nobunaga
23-01-2006, 09:05
I'd like to be in what was historically Han China. Shown Here: Link (http://www.artsmia.org/art-of-asia/history/images/maps/china-han.gif)

And since its past tech, I shouldn't have a problem. :D
Aust
23-01-2006, 17:22
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464780
Topal
23-01-2006, 17:59
Hm who should I naval raid next? Tricky trick tricky. Maybe Aust.
Aust
23-01-2006, 18:06
Hm who should I naval raid next? Tricky trick tricky. Maybe Aust.
With my navy?
Topal
23-01-2006, 18:10
Hey mines pretty good itself you know. And besides, its about getting in, raiding some towns/villages and out before the enemy have time to react.....
Aust
23-01-2006, 18:12
Hey mines pretty good itself you know. And besides, its about getting in, raiding some towns/villages and out before the enemy have time to react.....
Ever heard of the watchtower system. Where abouts are you on the world map?
Aust
23-01-2006, 18:15
If your going to attack-get on with it.
Toops
23-01-2006, 18:22
If you want you could invade the Blue Noomi, or the Blue Island, home to the Noomian Orc, some things to know, it is only de-facto controlled by Toop, infact it still in complete anarchy with several of the Orc chieftains fighting amongst themselves for power, if you do invade you'd fighting them not me, but I might go on and get involved, though this might be considered a breach of rules so if Aust agrees to Blue Noomi then you can go ahead.

Aust; if you've read the post above then you know what I'm asking for, an island of Orcs who go under no banner but are claimed unofficially by me, they don't fully fight for me and are in anarchy so is this fine?
Aust
23-01-2006, 18:29
If you want you could invade the Blue Noomi, or the Blue Island, home to the Noomian Orc, some things to know, it is only de-facto controlled by Toop, infact it still in complete anarchy with several of the Orc chieftains fighting amongst themselves for power, if you do invade you'd fighting them not me, but I might go on and get involved, though this might be considered a breach of rules so if Aust agrees to Blue Noomi then you can go ahead.

Aust; if you've read the post above then you know what I'm asking for, an island of Orcs who go under no banner but are claimed unofficially by me, they don't fully fight for me and are in anarchy so is this fine?
I don't thinks so, seems a bit godmoddy.
Toops
23-01-2006, 18:32
k, that's cool, so long as I know not to do it before I go ahead and make an arse out of myself, in any case the small island just off the Eastern coast is simply a small Toopish island, you're welcome to invade.
Caladonn
23-01-2006, 22:27
Hmm... I've got a bit of a problem... I'm kinda in the location of the middle area of the USA, yet I'm an island...
Nevus
23-01-2006, 23:06
I was hoping that I could get in on this, at this location (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/jeudesprit/Past%20Tech%20Nation/RequestedSpace.jpg) with the light blue color.

Is it okay?

I'll be posting national info this evening, hopefully.
Kirisubo
24-01-2006, 00:05
on the map Kirisubo is where the home islands of japan are.
Philanchez
24-01-2006, 01:12
Updated (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6614/ptrpworldmap5is.png)
I think you all can guess which ones are yours....
[NS::]Reallydrunk
24-01-2006, 06:01
OOC:Sorry put the car off the road afew days ago, been busy with that..id like to catch up a bit. I see lots of PT Nations are comming along...
Nevus
24-01-2006, 06:33
Here is the beginings of my national Reference Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465032)

I'll be back tomorrow to do more OOC stuff and maybe start an action thread.
Angermanland
24-01-2006, 15:55
ok, now i'm actually looking at the right thread, hehe. first off, i'd like to lay claim to New Zealand, and that island chain going east from where new guinea[sp] would be.

then i'd like to know what info you actually need about the nation... and then i need to work out how to post links [haven't tryed it yet, so i haven't looked for how. probibly blatantly obvious]
Spooty
24-01-2006, 15:58
k, you don't need much more than a claim of territory and a reference page, basically telling people a little about the nation, take a look at some of the other reference pages to find out more, to post links you copy the words written in the explorer bar at the top of the screen, the easiest way to do this is by selecting the whole bit and pressing Ctrl+C and then pasting it in the post by pressing Ctrl+V.
Angermanland
24-01-2006, 16:08
ahh. thanks. thought as much. i'll get on that.

edit: here we go. linkity.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465079 << that should go to my discription thingy.

humm as for the ruler.. yes. easy to do. just a minor edit and it'll be there.
Aust
24-01-2006, 16:26
basically you need to anme the controller of your nation (your caracter, in my case empoerer Trijan), the position of your nation (Oz, in my case.) You can save all that till the 2nd or third post though.
Kanami
24-01-2006, 20:43
Sure. Well of course I kind of showed up unenvited, but It looks like i'm in
Spooty
24-01-2006, 22:32
I have a question, I've worked out a very rudimentary primative landmine, now in RL this may be flawed, I don't know I don't have the resources nessacary to test it out, k, it works like this; a pot is filled about halfway with blackpowder, on the rim of the pot is a hinge supporting a lever mechanism, on one end is a pedal, this end will stick slightly out of the ground, on the other end is tied a rag soaked in naptha and a flint, on the other side of the rim and touching the flint is a piece of coarse metal, when pressure is applied to the pedal a spark will hopefully light the naptha soaked rag and it will either drop into the powder or burn until it hits the powder, either way the powder explodes, this landmine also has a lid with appropriate holes to allow for the lever and should be covered lighty using a little soil and any other surrounding terrain, so is this okay or considered a godmod?
Kirisubo
24-01-2006, 23:05
a landmine is an interesting proposition.

i know that the chinese used rockets as weapons of war and the japanese used them as signal beacons.

If your nation knows how to work gunpowder i suppose something like a hand grenade is a possibility.
Spooty
24-01-2006, 23:13
well i'd need to work it out but the landmine only came to me cos I was working out a way in which I could use magic based on physical principles, same place that the Voodoo Zombie dust I used in Aust's thread came from, I'm also thinking of ways in which I can use Cannabis to my advantage, if I get in the right wind then I could blow over winds of calming smoke to stop enemy armies and then I go and kill them, but that's still in the works.
Frozopia
24-01-2006, 23:45
I like it.
Philanchez
24-01-2006, 23:51
K. five minutes and ill use my new Macromedia Fireworks MX to edit the map :D (its easier than photoshop which i was useing before AND i have experience with it!)
Topal
25-01-2006, 00:08
Oh and I have captured the Kuriles Islands, Japan.
The Scandinvans
25-01-2006, 00:28
Can I join as a colony and subject kingdom of Valgard? Also if I can join is it okay if a ruling warrior class of Valgardians can live up to three times the lives normal humans can achieve (about 240 to 300 years on average)?Here is where I would like to be in the rp I am the cyan blue: http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ptrpworldmap5is3rh.png
Philanchez
25-01-2006, 01:24
Updated (http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9784/ptrpworldmap0mg.png)
I added some land and changed some colors to take away the chance of mistakeing land as someone elses. Once again you should all know where you are.
Antanjyl
25-01-2006, 08:33
I would like to join as my PT nation of Antanjyl. Would that be alright? I'd like to be located on the small penninsula east of The Scandinvans.
Angermanland
25-01-2006, 17:04
very nice map. on the downside.. wrong island chain. i Belive i said north west, though i can't remember precisely. more to the point, it's ment to be othe ones that curve off round the top of australia and end when they run into papua new guine. [sp] they're ment to be recent aquasitions, you see, justifying the fact that i now know Aust is there, when i didn't befor [wich is slightly surpriseing given how BIG he is! ]
Spooty
25-01-2006, 17:06
*waves*

North of the Sea of Azov East of Spizania, small territory.
Aust
25-01-2006, 17:17
Can you just stick that small land to the west (Little island, south westish of Oz) as Austian? And I would like it if a few of the northern islands where Austian. I'm supposed to have a few coloneys asll over the region, so just stick some rendom blue bits on.
Nevus
25-01-2006, 18:19
Great, ready to go now.

Also, could I have some small outpost/colony dots put on the map? Somewhere near the horn of Africa and the Carribean? They show the twin exploration fleets mentioned in my national write-up and their landfall settlements.
Caladonn
26-01-2006, 02:52
Hmm... Map looks pretty good. I don't mean to be picky, but I posted about contact with Kirisubo, which is pretty much impossible in my current location... perhaps you could just have central america not exist and replace it with the island you put as me?
[NS::]Reallydrunk
26-01-2006, 03:33
I would like Italy on the map if that would be possible, Ostia is a western power based from Rome....soo thank you :) maybe a bit of Ostia extending into france and holland..
Qarez
26-01-2006, 03:35
I think I'd like to join.

As Qarez is a middle eastern nation, think I could take this?:

[IMG[http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5793/mideastwanted1yo.png[/IMG]

I left the Tigres and the Euphrates, as well as the Nile and the Red Sea, so I pretty much just took the crappy parts of the middle east. According to modern day Qarez, there is a rain forest in the south-west of Saudi Arabia.

Is it better to start my own thread? Or is there an ongoing RP I could jump into?
[NS::]Reallydrunk
26-01-2006, 03:42
It's up to you, there is quite afew PT Rp's going on right now...we have 2 nations on the verge of war, could start any time(Mine being 1 of them)...Rise of the Kurisuban Empire...establish trade routes thing you want..feel free to explore the PT world. You can also start your own thread..
Einhauser
03-02-2006, 00:56
would it be possible for me to join without being marked on a map? I like to think my nation is in the middle of everywhere.
Aust
03-02-2006, 17:15
would it be possible for me to join without being marked on a map? I like to think my nation is in the middle of everywhere.
It would be a bit harder-Africas in the middle of everywhere?
Frozopia
03-02-2006, 18:10
Aust how do you feel about being attacked by an invading force that will probably defeat you? Would you be ok with that? It would make an awesome RP, and victory, and you winning is not out of the question.
Angermanland
03-02-2006, 18:46
heh.. especially not if he decides "hey, those savages from teh land of the long white cloud arn't so bad..." ... and stops thinking of them as savages :P
Aust
03-02-2006, 18:49
Aust how do you feel about being attacked by an invading force that will probably defeat you? Would you be ok with that? It would make an awesome RP, and victory, and you winning is not out of the question.
I can't stop you, as long as you Rp it properly then it's okay. personally I'd like to see someone attempt to take Aust city. TG and get a few details-army sizes ect down.
Frozopia
03-02-2006, 19:35
My troops are pretty basic TBH, I obviously lack any kind of imagination. Longbows are my best weapon, tough pike equipped infantry. Some good cavalry, no horse archers.

BTW It will be a triple alliance (with some toopish help but very little I think) against you.......

We will give you the detailed info when it starts, and you will probably hear rumours etc Icily quite a while before we leave port.
Einhauser
03-02-2006, 20:02
Not quite Africa. I was thinking more like "remove Italy and the lands around it and paste my country over it." I dont want to be put on the map, however, as it would create a headache for me explaining why its located where, why things are named differant, why they look differant, etc.
Frozopia
03-02-2006, 20:14
I think Italy is claimed (By Really Drunk). Besides the centre of everything could be anywhere in a sphere, but I guess you mean near Europe and stuff, so I cant help.
Einhauser
03-02-2006, 20:36
i dont want Italy. Thats just where it would be if it was on the map.
Aust
03-02-2006, 20:56
My troops are pretty basic TBH, I obviously lack any kind of imagination. Longbows are my best weapon, tough pike equipped infantry. Some good cavalry, no horse archers.

BTW It will be a triple alliance (with some toopish help but very little I think) against you.......

We will give you the detailed info when it starts, and you will probably hear rumours etc Icily quite a while before we leave port.
OKay, Austian troops are almost exclusivly infantry, as there are no animals of ridable size in Australia, but they are very strong disciplined infantry, think Roman legions. Lots of archers and skirmishers as well. A good few pikemen.
Frozopia
03-02-2006, 21:00
I plan to throw in some newly invented units though. I just cant think of any (damn you TV damn you). Hm what shall they be.........Armoured Polar bears? (maybe not).
Einhauser
03-02-2006, 21:02
Well, if you intend to fight battles in far north, rig up some "warsleds" pulled by reindeer or polar bears, if you can manage it.
Frozopia
03-02-2006, 21:04
Maybe, but I tend to fight far from home. I dont think warsleds will work well in the outback.
Einhauser
03-02-2006, 21:05
True, true. Australia isnt exactly the most forthecomming with new units. Perhaps use snake venom to poison your arrows?
Frozopia
03-02-2006, 21:17
Damn my posts are never clear. I am far to the north, but my next conflict will be in australia (probably will be anyways).
Aust
03-02-2006, 22:49
:) Theres lots of ways to use to outback to your advantage-ever wondered why horse never developed in Oz-Too hot,your cavalry will be pussing and blowing within minuates-and easy prey to my men
Philanchez
03-02-2006, 23:28
Map (http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/5383/ptrpworldmap7dn.png)
Topal
03-02-2006, 23:35
:) Theres lots of ways to use to outback to your advantage-ever wondered why horse never developed in Oz-Too hot,your cavalry will be pussing and blowing within minuates-and easy prey to my men

meh if that happens my men will dismount and fight on foot. Im sure my light cavalry will be able to stand it though.
Philanchez
03-02-2006, 23:51
I guess I wont be invadeing Aust anytime soon then. Most of my guys are walking tanks with the exception of Cumans and Arcanii.
Caladonn
04-02-2006, 17:25
Well, I'm not sure if even a triple alliance would be able to defeat Aust, since Topal is fighting from across the entire Pacific, and so would Toops. Who's the third member of the alliance?
Spizania
04-02-2006, 17:34
Im sorry i havent been able to keep up with the developments here, school work, but now im free and can i have a simple update of whats happened in the PT world?
Toops
04-02-2006, 17:42
Well, I'm not sure if even a triple alliance would be able to defeat Aust, since Topal is fighting from across the entire Pacific, and so would Toops. Who's the third member of the alliance?

last I checked it was Really Drunk, Kirisubo and Topal with little help from me.
Toops
04-02-2006, 17:50
Im sorry i havent been able to keep up with the developments here, school work, but now im free and can i have a simple update of whats happened in the PT world?

well I don't know when you left but i'll try to fill in some details, k I can only really remember asian matters but it went somthing like the Frozopians took over an island which the Ostians tried to sieze, then the Kirisubans stopped it and a deal was made to center the agression towards the Austians.
Spizania
04-02-2006, 17:53
So were all attacking Aust now? Wheres he exactly, we should add a legend to that map
Frozopia
04-02-2006, 17:53
sorry If I cause confusion by constantly switching posts between Topal and Frozopia, but Frozopia is the people i RP as most of the time (they are the nation I use in this RP).
Kirisubo
04-02-2006, 17:57
i like the way the PT map is shaping up.

I'm wondering who controls the area where China should be although. theres a good chance we would have issues between us and maybe even somethings in common.
Toops
04-02-2006, 17:59
i like the way the PT map is shaping up.

I'm wondering who controls the area where China should be although. theres a good chance we would have issues between us and maybe even somethings in common.

I think it's a nation called Oda Noh Nabrunga, or somthing like that he hasn't posted in a while but has got a thread that's been going for a while now.
Toops
04-02-2006, 18:01
I'd like to be in what was historically Han China. Shown Here: Link (http://www.artsmia.org/art-of-asia/history/images/maps/china-han.gif)

And since its past tech, I shouldn't have a problem. :D

here ya go.
Aust
04-02-2006, 18:42
everyone attacking me-anyone want to help me out?
Frozopia
04-02-2006, 19:06
nah :D
Frozopia
04-02-2006, 19:15
When are we attacking anyways?
Aust
04-02-2006, 19:16
You could start off...
Frozopia
04-02-2006, 19:19
Hm I think I will. Start a new thread for it, ok?
Aust
04-02-2006, 19:22
Fine put a link on here-reamber you have to set out first!
Frozopia
04-02-2006, 19:30
yeh I know. I will wait for Kiriusbo confirmation first.
Caladonn
04-02-2006, 23:50
Well I don't know, maybe I'll help the Austians- I'll see how things shape up.
The Scandinvans
05-02-2006, 02:39
Here is my thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467085
Tadjikistan
05-02-2006, 16:00
I'm definitly interested in past tech, I'd like to join/participate I you'll allow me
Philanchez
05-02-2006, 16:03
Sure, just tell us where you are on the map so I can add you and then create an intro thread or join an ongoing one.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466894
^The subjugation of a continent...
Aust
05-02-2006, 18:05
I'm definitly interested in past tech, I'd like to join/participate I you'll allow me
Sure, find a place to satrt and GO FOR IT.

Froztopia, you ready to go?
Frozopia
05-02-2006, 18:07
Waiting for Kiriusban's confirmation. Patience.
Aust
05-02-2006, 18:11
Waiting for Kiriusban's confirmation. Patience.
Surley you can start without him-at least get your troops moving.
Frozopia
05-02-2006, 18:33
Ok I think I will. The post will take awhile to write up, It will be pretty detailed.
Aust
05-02-2006, 19:00
Gotcha
The Keltoi Tribe
05-02-2006, 21:38
I'd like to join if it's not too late. If I can, could someone brief me on what's been going on please?
Tadjikistan
06-02-2006, 15:41
Sure, just tell us where you are on the map so I can add you and then create an intro thread or join an ongoing one.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466894
^The subjugation of a continent...

I have not yet decided where I should have my territory. Either in Southern Europe(Spain, and an Area in North Africa) or Central Asia/Middle east(Afghanistan, Tadjikistan, Pakistan and some area around it to make it look nice)
Making a choice is difficult, so drop me on one of these two, where you think I'd fit in best.


I have two more questions, what about my population, how big do you suggest I should make it?
Is it the year 1600 now? So all tech and units from that period are good? I'm a great LotR fan and I'll most likely use names from it, But i'd like to know If the tech(the weapons and such) would fit in.
Aust
06-02-2006, 17:17
I have not yet decided where I should have my territory. Either in Southern Europe(Spain, and an Area in North Africa) or Central Asia/Middle east(Afghanistan, Tadjikistan, Pakistan and some area around it to make it look nice)
Making a choice is difficult, so drop me on one of these two, where you think I'd fit in best.


I have two more questions, what about my population, how big do you suggest I should make it?
Is it the year 1600 now? So all tech and units from that period are good? I'm a great LotR fan and I'll most likely use names from it, But i'd like to know If the tech(the weapons and such) would fit in.
It's all pre-blackpowder tech early cannon are allowed but thats it-no guns. There no 'year'. It's basically about developing your nations early history-for instance Austains (Modern Day) reveare emproer Trijan as the greatest of all a living god and sire of gods thus I thought it would be nice to show how he became like that.

Population can be as big as you want, but keep it senisably, most people have populations of around 5 million or so in this(I think I'm the biggest at 7 million).
Frozopia
06-02-2006, 18:04
Mine is 20 million. Seem alot? Due to the harsh conditions in Frozopia, my population grows at a much slower rate than most others, so I reckon to reach my MT pop it has to have a greater base. Also Frozopia is pretty damn huge.

Invading Aust. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10371391#post10371391)
Philanchez
06-02-2006, 23:42
I have 15-20 million but thats because im in the great lakes region and later on my nation suffers a civil war and an exodus.
Caladonn
07-02-2006, 01:06
Hmm... I thought that we were dividing our NS populations by 100 for the pop for this RP. I've been RPing as having a pop of 30 million, which is actually a bit low for my pop... still, I'd be willing to lower it by a bit, say to 25 million, if everyone else has lower pop.
Tadjikistan
07-02-2006, 03:53
I've been thinking about what Aust said, develop your early history.
Could you put me in Central Asia:Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan mainly, please
Oda noh Nobunaga
07-02-2006, 20:53
Sry for my extended absence. What I miss? (Famous last words...) lol, Anyway I got Han China, and right now I have the following stats for those who are interested in my nation. (And a update on the map would be nice...can't find it in the thread...)

Han China

Population: 100 million
Army- Standing Army: 500,000 Possible Army: 3,000,000
Tech: Steel, early cannons, best ship navigators and astronomers


Where exactly do I enter into the rp'ing anyway? I see like four different threads. I'm thinking we need a centralized one.
Frozopia
07-02-2006, 20:58
That population is too large isnt it? I mean mine is the highest at 20 million, from what I have seen so far. This is not an earth BTW, we are not rping with a centralised thread.
Oda noh Nobunaga
07-02-2006, 21:01
That population is too large isnt it? I mean mine is the highest at 20 million, from what I have seen so far. This is not an earth BTW, we are not rping with a centralised thread.

Well...its China man...
Oda noh Nobunaga
07-02-2006, 21:02
I lowered it by 300 mil.
Frozopia
07-02-2006, 21:04
I looked up a number for china's population in 1600, it was 120-200 million, but whatever.
Oda noh Nobunaga
07-02-2006, 21:10
Now, who is that in the Green sitting next to me in what is our world Japan? I would like to make an alliance with them, or at least a non-agression pact.

Also, I found some nice pics for my military, for all you guys benefit.
Toops
07-02-2006, 21:12
Now, who is that in the Green sitting next to me in what is our world Japan? I would like to make an alliance with them, or at least a non-agression pact.

That would be Kirisubo
Oda noh Nobunaga
07-02-2006, 21:24
Chinese Military Units

Falchion-Pikemen (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Samurai/11zj.jpg) - Armed with light armor and a 8ft pole and 2-3ft curved blade, short sword for back up

Longbowmen (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Samurai/27kd.jpg) - Large strengthened Bamboo long bow, light armor, short sword for melee.

Pikemen (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Samurai/10tx.jpg) - 10-12ft pole with a 3-4 foot thin blade, moderately armored, sword for back up.

Heavy Spearmen (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Samurai/19lb.jpg) - Heavily armored, 6ft pole spear, 2-3ft blade, sword and knife

Heavy Calvary (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Samurai/11fj.jpg) - 10ft lance, heavily armored, swords and knife

Light Spearmen/Skirmishers (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Samurai/15wi.jpg)- 6-8ft spear, moderately armored, short sword

Crossbowmen- heavy crossbow, light armor, short sword

Repeater Crossbowmen- large two man operated repeater crossbow (20 bolts/30 secs)
Oda noh Nobunaga
07-02-2006, 21:35
I am making a thread for the expansion of my Empire which called "The Han Empire" which is ruled by Emperor Shui Han Di.

I'll be expanding in two areas. Along my east coast-line, which on the map for some reason is marked as not my territory (so I'll make it mine) and to the South-West into what looks like India and Vietnam. Since no one is there, I don't expect to be interacting with too many of you other guys, but if Kirisubo wants to meet and chat about a treaty, then I'm all ears.
Terror Incognitia
07-02-2006, 21:39
Heya, I'm currently RPing with Caladonn, would be interested in merging our thread with the main RP. Is that gonna be possible?
If yes, I'm an island chain, main island about the size of Britain, a few maybe Ireland-sized. For internal consistency I need to be West of wherever Caladonn ends up. And can someone repost the link to the map? Can't find it...
Toops
07-02-2006, 21:47
Map (http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/5383/ptrpworldmap7dn.png)

here.
Oda noh Nobunaga
07-02-2006, 22:19
Heres the link to my expansion thead: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=467592

If it interests you...

EDIT:

Also, 'Map-Maker' person, here is what I am conquering in the coming days.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/ExpansionMap.jpg
Toops
07-02-2006, 22:25
Oda, I have had an excellent idea, The Toop are a raider culture surviving off the scraps of Nomads, the lands which you'll invade will disrupt the major suppliers of Toopish items, mind if I help the Nomads, I could also RP resistance for you.
Oda noh Nobunaga
07-02-2006, 22:27
Oda, I have had an excellent idea, The Toop are a raider culture surviving off the scraps of Nomads, the lands which you'll invade will disrupt the major suppliers of Toopish items, mind if I help the Nomads, I could also RP resistance for you.


Take a look at the area implied, and then study up on the area. Once you have, tell me, and I will decide for sure.
Terror Incognitia
07-02-2006, 22:30
Ta. To whoever runs the map, If I can go have some land slapped on top of those crappy islands to the north of Papua New Guinea? That should about cover it...
Also leaves plenty of space to my East for Caladonn to set up. Though if that treads on too many toes I can go anywhere vaguely temperate and island based.
Toops
07-02-2006, 22:50
Just had a look over the map, maybe not Oda don't fancy my Troops passing over the Himilayas to defend some ratty Nomads.
The Scandinvans
07-02-2006, 22:54
Would it be alright if I invaded Normandy, Wales, England, Nova Scotia, eastern Quebec, Prince Edward Island, and New Brunswick. I wish to conquer these lands because I need new food sources to feed my people and as well I wish to conquer them for resources.
Frozopia
07-02-2006, 22:55
TBH I think its kinda lame expanding your territory over land that has not been chosen by anyone yet. I reckon if you want to do that, you have to fight an equilavant of the 1600 British (e.g. you lose :D).
WinTrees
07-02-2006, 23:38
Just seeing what peoples reactions would be to a mercenary outfit being set up, no nation and numbering about 10,000 men at the most.

They’d be tough fighters but would be limited heavy by their numbers. Nations at war/peace could hire the services. I figure a bit of help now and again would be nice and a good dynamic for certain RPs.
Frozopia
07-02-2006, 23:47
I like it. Expect work from me.
Philanchez
08-02-2006, 00:17
Map (http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8263/ptrpworldmap9as.png)

Lands being conquered are denoted by white lines across them.
Warshrike
08-02-2006, 02:10
I want two things. First of all, I want in. Second of all, I want either part of Sou afrika, Sou England or Sou america. This will decide how I play, but I have no preference to and apart from the following order. Eng, Amer, Afrik.

In closing ty, and finally, bye
Philanchez
08-02-2006, 02:16
Englands being invaded but you can go in South frica. Also, if you wouldn't mind, you could have some manners and not say I want but may I have.
Warshrike
08-02-2006, 02:30
Ok, sorry I was just joking. I spose I'd like either madagascar or the southernmost tip.
Philanchez
08-02-2006, 02:31
Map...again (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8258/ptrpworldmap0vs.png)
Warshrike
08-02-2006, 05:49
I like your idea better... 8>) Seems as it doesent look like Ill be making contact for a lil while, I wont make a thread just yet. For now, my nations plans are take all of madagascar and up to and including the second lake. After all, Africa has REALLY bad farmland... And, though I realise Im a bit south for this... my basic warriors are Zulu's. Lastly, who's tiny little blue dot is that just under the middle east region??
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 09:46
Just had a look over the map, maybe not Oda don't fancy my Troops passing over the Himilayas to defend some ratty Nomads.

:D Didn't think so. My campaign is starting. Kirisubo, want to make an alliance?

And who is that on the map, the brown one in what looks like modern day iran, iraq, and what-not?
Kirisubo
08-02-2006, 10:55
:D Didn't think so. My campaign is starting. Kirisubo, want to make an alliance?



i suppose with a change of Shogun new possibilities are open. expect an ambassador along with a ship of the Kirisuban imperial navy to come visiting.

the ambassadors orders are to try and break the 'cold war' that stops Kirisubans trading directly with the Han kingdom.

given that they tried to invade Chosen (Korea) a good few years back it should be an interesting meeting
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 11:25
i suppose with a change of Shogun new possibilities are open. expect an ambassador along with a ship of the Kirisuban imperial navy to come visiting.

the ambassadors orders are to try and break the 'cold war' that stops Kirisubans trading directly with the Han kingdom.

given that they tried to invade Chosen (Korea) a good few years back it should be an interesting meeting

Right on.
Frozopia
08-02-2006, 18:21
He would fail if he tried to invade 1600 England. They are too powerful for his nation of what? 500,000?
Frozopia
08-02-2006, 18:24
same goes for France actually....
Spizania
08-02-2006, 18:25
Whos the green territory on my western border?
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 18:50
He would fail if he tried to invade 1600 England. They are too powerful for his nation of what? 500,000?

I dunno. I know that England at the time was recovering from wars with Spain and France. I would say they could muster an army of some 3,000+ knights, 20-40k men-at-arms, and 10k longbowmen. Thats a hard force to beat. And if the old saying of invasions go you need 10 to 1 odds in your favor.
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 18:53
Whos the green territory on my western border?

Right now we need to have a post designating whose who on the map.

Right now this is what I know:

Aust - Blue
(me) - Orange
Kirisubo - Brown



Now, we need to get a real list going so players aren't confused.
Frozopia
08-02-2006, 18:55
White= Frozopian

Actually no, I think thats just the default colour of new land masses.....
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 18:58
White= Frozopian

Actually no, I think thats just the default colour of new land masses.....
Frozop, is that you above Kirisubo?
Toops
08-02-2006, 18:59
right from what i've been able to gather

White: Frozopia
Orange: Oda Noh Nobunaga
Burgundy: Toops
Brown: Kirisubo
Blue: Aust
Black: Phillanchez
Deep Pink: Caladon
Red: Spizania
Yellow: Really Drunk (Ostia)
Egg-Shell Blue: Terror Incognita
Deep Red: Tadjikistan
Green: Nuralla
Sky Blue: Nevus
Light Blue: Scandinavians
Pea Green: Antanjyl
Pinky/Purple: Angermanland
Ultramarine: Qarez
Brown: Warshrike
Kanami
08-02-2006, 19:09
I was in the RP Time, but now it looks as if you are abandoning it for the Conquest. so now i'm lost, so would some one clue me in?
Toops
08-02-2006, 19:11
I was in the RP Time, but now it looks as if you are abandoning it for the Conquest. so now i'm lost, so would some one clue me in?

the thread "Time" i'm guessing is the Austian News and Diplomacy thread, wheras Conquest is the invasion of Aust.
Terror Incognitia
08-02-2006, 19:51
It seems I'm the light bluey-grey, barely visible, covering Papua New Guinea and Indonesia. I had thus really better take a stand on the Austian invasion, seeing as most people seem to need to come _through_ me to get there.

In addition will need to be making diplomatic contact with the expansionist Chinese.

Oh yeah, also, who is the pink covering New Zealand etc?
Frozopia
08-02-2006, 20:03
yeh Im above Kiriusbo.
So Oda noh Nobunaga, we will have contacts in future.
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 20:06
yeh Im above Kiriusbo.
So Oda noh Nobunaga, we will have contacts in future.

...*looks around*...I feel foreboding in those words....*sees a figure way off* There he is! Get him! *runs after Foreboding*
Tadjikistan
08-02-2006, 20:18
Oh yeah, also, who is the pink covering New Zealand etc?

Angermanland claimed New Zealand and Qarez is in Saudi Arabia, I believe those are the only ones that werent metioned.

When I look at the map I notice I wont be having many contacts for a while, but thats ok, allows me to organize things and work out my empire.
Terror Incognitia
08-02-2006, 20:29
Sweet. I really had better make a decision on Aust now then. Like I say, Frozopia and Kirisubo have to go through my territory to get there now.
Frozopia
08-02-2006, 20:33
I do? Cant I just sail around a few islands? Oh you mean your waters. Well if you stop my full powered navy plus my allies, thats upto you. Big mistake mayhaps, but your call.
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 20:38
I do? Cant I just sail around a few islands? Oh you mean your waters. Well if you stop my full powered navy plus my allies, thats upto you. Big mistake mayhaps, but your call.

Your empire is like Nordic based right? Or what? Since your close, and Kiris has already begun sending deligates, perhaps you could? Like a ship that gets blown onto my coasts.
Terror Incognitia
08-02-2006, 20:39
For one, we are an independent power with a proud naval history, and questioning our strength is not a way to win us round.

For two, I'll be on my home ground. As the Spanish Armada showed, it is hard to conduct naval warfare when carrying a vast army and a long way from home.

Actually I was thinking more in terms of armed neutrality, given that the outcome appears far from certain. I was just pointing out that I need to clarify my position before your ships sail, so we know what to expect when they reach my waters.
Frozopia
08-02-2006, 20:41
Ahuh Nordic filtering through an almost English type race. I will contact you, and start it tomorow though. Bit busy to start anything right now.
Frozopia
08-02-2006, 20:43
Sure perhaps you could also help supply my army if this isnt going beyond neutrality.
Toops
08-02-2006, 20:43
For one, we are an independent power with a proud naval history, and questioning our strength is not a way to win us round.

dammit! so far every nation on this world has a "proud naval tradition" whatever happened to strength of Arms!?!?

Oh and this there any way for my vessels to pass by? as they can masquerade as merchants.
Terror Incognitia
08-02-2006, 20:47
Well, as I see from the map that Aust claims some islands almost separating my territory in two, I may be amenable to an offer;)

Then again, I might not like the idea of vast fleets passing right by some of my main settlements. Could go either way.

So for now I'm thinking armed neutrality, prepared to intervene if we don't like the way things are going. Therefore on food and the like, our merchants will of course be free to trade:) Vital military stores will probably be vetoed by government authorities, so as not to jeopardise our own state of readiness (may have a war with Caladonn as well to deal with).
Terror Incognitia
08-02-2006, 20:50
I'm an island chain. Strength of arms is all very well, if you want to row here ;) ;)

Masquerading as merchantmen? You may be considered smugglers/pirates, and treated accordingly. Unless you actually trade legally, in which case there could well be victualling opportunities, along with charts showing what we know of Aust...

Or, as the naval vessels of an independent power, negotiate passage. Your choice.
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 21:20
dammit! so far every nation on this world has a "proud naval tradition" whatever happened to strength of Arms!?!?

Oh and this there any way for my vessels to pass by? as they can masquerade as merchants.


My navy is good, but my army is better. I mean, what are you going to do when I'm firing at you with some 300,000 archers? (Think of that scene from the movie 'Hero' with Jet Li) Then send a monstrous wave of some 1 mil spearmen, pikemen, swordsmen, cavalry, etc? :D
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 21:28
Because Han China is the most technologically advanced and with our knowledge of gunpowder, we have managed to make the first hand-held one man firing gun.

Its basically the arquebus gun. You know that first one invented and used by samurai and spaniard alike? Well, I have it. But it is currently in small numbers and not in great use, but that could change.

Unit

Arquebusier (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Samurai/12hg.jpg) - lightly armored, arquebus mussle-loading gun, small knife.
Toops
08-02-2006, 21:30
(Think of that scene from the movie 'Hero' with Jet Li)

:confused:

yeah, after i'm done with the Aust conquest campaign (ie. my Raiders get bored and go home) i'm gonna have a power shift, Goredash is already dying (as was revealed in Kirisubo's thread) and his son is next in line, the new King is an expansionist who believes that the Toop should move out from it's primative barbaric shell, i'ma basically start expanding moving towards the foundation of my MT Toop.
Tadjikistan
08-02-2006, 21:47
dammit! so far every nation on this world has a "proud naval tradition" whatever happened to strength of Arms!?!?

Oh and this there any way for my vessels to pass by? as they can masquerade as merchants.

Then that would make me the first nation without a 'proud naval tradition'.
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 21:47
:confused:

YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THE MOVIE 'HERO'?!? :eek: *utters prayers for Toops soul*
Aust
08-02-2006, 21:48
Well, as I see from the map that Aust claims some islands almost separating my territory in two, I may be amenable to an offer
.
Wew could...nagotiate somthing I;m sure, the islands for your help. Your nation seems to be the perfect chockpoint, if Is end my navy north we could stop them tere and then. Tg me so people don't know our deplomacy....
Philanchez
08-02-2006, 21:51
Hero was kick ass! Oh and Tadjik, I was the first without a proud naval tradition. Hell I dont even have a navy! In fact I JUST got coastline.
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 21:51
Wew could...nagotiate somthing I;m sure, the islands for your help. Your nation seems to be the perfect chockpoint, if Is end my navy north we could stop them tere and then. Tg me so people don't know our deplomacy....

Aust, I'm gonna have a couple Large ships appear off your coast. Like huge 400ft junks, five large sails, some 40 ft high and wide. Big motha's that are bearing everything from the Han empire. And they are seeking to make alliances and trade offers. Sound good?
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 21:53
Hero was kick ass!

"Aaaaaameeeen." (using a deep monk-ish latin voice)
Tadjikistan
08-02-2006, 21:57
Hero was kick ass! Oh and Tadjik, I was the first without a proud naval tradition. Hell I dont even have a navy! In fact I JUST got coastline.

Well, I dont have much of a navy either. My nation needs a good army to defend its borders.
Toops
08-02-2006, 21:57
Oh and Tadjik, I was the first without a proud naval tradition. Hell I dont even have a navy! In fact I JUST got coastline.

I think we're forgetten me, Raft bouy (naval jokes SUCK!)
Angermanland
08-02-2006, 21:59
what happend to the thread in wich that raiding was happening, anyway? heh, i got throwen a bit by Frozopia haveing two accounts in there [or so it appears?] and lost track of what was going on, so i didn't reply for a bit, but.. it seems to have stalled. last I checked, i was chaseing some "merchants" downwind with full sail.. and they split into three groups.. then there is a random jump and some of them [i think it's the same ones] with a plague, are heading for some islands.. and some others landed [presumably in Aust] and... i'm confuzzled... i want to get that moveing again, if at all possible.
Aust
08-02-2006, 22:02
Aust, I'm gonna have a couple Large ships appear off your coast. Like huge 400ft junks, five large sails, some 40 ft high and wide. Big motha's that are bearing everything from the Han empire. And they are seeking to make alliances and trade offers. Sound good?
Aye, post 'em on my 'Time' thread.
Frozopia
08-02-2006, 22:03
Erm I have have hand held gun powder weapons already.......
Aust
08-02-2006, 22:06
what happend to the thread in wich that raiding was happening, anyway? heh, i got throwen a bit by Frozopia haveing two accounts in there [or so it appears?] and lost track of what was going on, so i didn't reply for a bit, but.. it seems to have stalled. last I checked, i was chaseing some "merchants" downwind with full sail.. and they split into three groups.. then there is a random jump and some of them [i think it's the same ones] with a plague, are heading for some islands.. and some others landed [presumably in Aust] and... i'm confuzzled... i want to get that moveing again, if at all possible.
We'll try. Cheak your TG's.
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 22:06
Erm I have have hand held gun powder weapons already.......

Seeing as this is medieval past-tech, meaning low level powdered weapons (ie huge siege cannons and the arquebus), I wanted to start out with more medieval weapons other than gunpowder, since that is what will be used by my army more. Meaing I have more swords and bows than I do guns. So for the most part I will use swords and guns.
Angermanland
08-02-2006, 22:07
hummm. if Aust is invaded, wich way do i jump? the trade guilds argue one way, the nobility another, the army another, and so on and so on. hehe.

then again, if anyone wants to Bypass, umm, was it terror incognita? bah.. indonesia, that kind of area there.. [i knew wich place i was talking about, then forgot, and it was on the previous page..] anyway, to go Around that, they probibly end up going trough the more recently aquired northern islands... so.. it really depends who bribes me best. fast [unarmed] ships and near-berserker melee troops, anyone?
Aust
08-02-2006, 22:10
hummm. if Aust is invaded, wich way do i jump? the trade guilds argue one way, the nobility another, the army another, and so on and so on. hehe.

then again, if anyone wants to Bypass, umm, was it terror incognita? bah.. indonesia, that kind of area there.. [i knew wich place i was talking about, then forgot, and it was on the previous page..] anyway, to go Around that, they probibly end up going trough the more recently aquired northern islands... so.. it really depends who bribes me best. fast [unarmed] ships and near-berserker melee troops, anyone?
Cheak Tg's. And do you really want a load of radiers/pirates off your west choast? I wouldn't.
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 22:11
fast [unarmed] ships and near-berserker melee troops, anyone?

My archers could use some practise. :D
Oda noh Nobunaga
08-02-2006, 22:11
Aye, post 'em on my 'Time' thread.

Could you provide a link to your time thread?
Angermanland
08-02-2006, 22:13
yeah, i was typeing that last post when you posted that, Aust. checked and replied to. i seem to remember someone makeing an attempt at conquering some of my territory a while back though, so.. we shall see. the one downside to my system of government is that it's prone to schizem of "three kingdoms era china" proportions.
Aust
08-02-2006, 22:13
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=464780
Terror Incognitia
08-02-2006, 22:51
If you try to go round, we'll meet you in the middle. Capture an Angermanian island and use it as a base of operations, wreak carnage with the invasion fleet. Sort of thing. We'll be much closer to home, and won't be carrying armies with supplies.

I think you'll be best off dealing with us directly, however you deal with us. A supply line across the whole Pacific is awfully vulnerable. And very few armies can live entirely off the land they are invading.
The Scandinvans
08-02-2006, 23:09
Because Han China is the most technologically advanced and with our knowledge of gunpowder, we have managed to make the first hand-held one man firing gun.

Its basically the arquebus gun. You know that first one invented and used by samurai and spaniard alike? Well, I have it. But it is currently in small numbers and not in great use, but that could change.

Unit

Arquebusier (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/Samurai/12hg.jpg) - lightly armored, arquebus mussle-loading gun, small knife.No offense, but the Han Dynasty was not responsible for the invention of gun powder and in fact it was invented until about the ninth or tenth centuries, as well the first forms of gun powder were not used in guns at first they were used to project arrows and bolts further. Also the first explosive powders made by humans would not explode, they burned.
Oda noh Nobunaga
09-02-2006, 14:06
No offense, but the Han Dynasty was not responsible for the invention of gun powder and in fact it was invented until about the ninth or tenth centuries, as well the first forms of gun powder were not used in guns at first they were used to project arrows and bolts further. Also the first explosive powders made by humans would not explode, they burned.

I'm rping my nation at could be the year 1500+, meaning by this time I have some. I just used the name Han because of lack of imagination.
Tadjikistan
09-02-2006, 16:09
This will help you understand my nation
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10389822#post10389822

But I must repeat that it is still under construction and some things may be altered.

I see that several nations have a large population and large armies. I almost feel obligued to make my own population large too, especially as my nation has so many mountains that need alot of time to get past and thus only a local force can defend a region in time, this requires a good base to recruit from, since the local troops arent as good as the regular army.

I see my nation somewhere betwen 1500 and 1600, late medieval period. Now in 1525 the Afghan ruler Babur the Tiger possessed an army equipped with match lock muskets, he was also the first to use the weapon in this part of the world. He also possessed a crude mortar that could project a heavy stone upto a mile.

The Emperor lives a long life and so do his relatives and noblemen. Why? because its easy, that way I dont have to come up with new names too often
Toops
09-02-2006, 21:40
After the distasteful first meeting of the Han Empire it's only natural to assume that a nation such as Toops would want revenge, for IC reasons I am declaring war on Oda, nothing to do with OOC, I respect the bloke, I'm also pulling my Raider parties out of the Austian conquest as they will be needed to fight the Han who are about twice the size of me, anyone else interested in aiding, i'll be starting to build up forces soon.
Oda noh Nobunaga
09-02-2006, 21:47
After the distasteful first meeting of the Han Empire it's only natural to assume that a nation such as Toops would want revenge, for IC reasons I am declaring war on Oda, nothing to do with OOC, I respect the bloke, I'm also pulling my Raider parties out of the Austian conquest as they will be needed to fight the Han who are about twice the size of me, anyone else interested in aiding, i'll be starting to build up forces soon.

Just remember you have to go through the Great Wall of Han first. :D

If you want to know what it's specifics are, and the size of the local garrison (before my regular army needs to march there) then all you gotta do is ask.


Edit: And comon, it was a simple order. "Drop your weapons and conceal nothing." But then you've provided an example to others how wary and cautious the Han Empire is. So in a way you've provided a service to the other players.
Oda noh Nobunaga
09-02-2006, 21:51
This will help you understand my nation
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10389822#post10389822

But I must repeat that it is still under construction and some things may be altered.

I see that several nations have a large population and large armies. I almost feel obligued to make my own population large too, especially as my nation has so many mountains that need alot of time to get past and thus only a local force can defend a region in time, this requires a good base to recruit from, since the local troops arent as good as the regular army.

I see my nation somewhere betwen 1500 and 1600, late medieval period. Now in 1525 the Afghan ruler Babur the Tiger possessed an army equipped with match lock muskets, he was also the first to use the weapon in this part of the world. He also possessed a crude mortar that could project a heavy stone upto a mile.

The Emperor lives a long life and so do his relatives and noblemen. Why? because its easy, that way I dont have to come up with new names too often

I like what you have so far, very easy to adjust to things. Since your close to the mideast, I expect to be having relations with you sometime soon. Escpecially since my Empire is expanding in your direction.
Toops
09-02-2006, 21:55
Edit: And comon, it was a simple order. "Drop your weapons and conceal nothing." But then you've provided an example to others how wary and cautious the Han Empire is. So in a way you've provided a service to the other players.

yeah it's just it wouldn't be very IC of me to just hand you all my weapons, the Toops are very possesive and paranoid, on the plus side if I lose this then it'll give my troops a chance to humanize ready for the MT version of the Toop, i'm still thinking about the wall, ICly my troops are still ambling over rocky territory trying to get back.
Oda noh Nobunaga
09-02-2006, 22:08
yeah it's just it wouldn't be very IC of me to just hand you all my weapons, the Toops are very possesive and paranoid, on the plus side if I lose this then it'll give my troops a chance to humanize ready for the MT version of the Toop, i'm still thinking about the wall, ICly my troops are still ambling over rocky territory trying to get back.

I guess your right, but if I had 60 arrows aimed at me, you'd be damned sure that I would comply. ;) As to the wall, just remember that it stretchs for...3,800 miles of my northern border.

Where it touches the sea a large fortified city-castle sits with a large harbor for my ships. At intervals of 5 miles there is a castle-keep built into the wall that houses several hundred soldiers each. Between castles are towers at intervals of 100 meters, each housing 20 men. The Wall itself if 30ft high, and 30ft wide at some parts (wide plain areas) and 15ft wide at other parts (high mountain areas.

Three provinces touch the wall, each with their own local armies to guard the province and reinforce the Imperial Army units on the Wall.

As the crow flies it is 200 miles north of the Forbidden City where the main Imperial Army is. A messenger can take that distance in two weeks, using a series of new horses (like the old west postal services) and messengers. The army would take, if travelling as small as 50,000 men, about a month to reach the Wall. That is, an Imperial Army. The three provinces touching each have their own 'militia' type army of archers and pikemen, each 100,000 strong.

All in all, about 120,000 Imperial soldiers are garrisoned on the Wall.
Frozopia
09-02-2006, 22:13
bah if the mongols can do it, so can I. Not that I am going to.