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also, are you sure? im almost certain i agreed to open the borders in exchange for entrance to Kenny?

And NP remember that i have an absolute ruler, and that his bank account was frozen.... if you had a kingdom at your disposal and a large amount of money in a frozen account you wouldn't take advantage....then again i don't know you.....

That's a reference to a telegram for those who don't know, although I can't tell if it's supposed to be cheeky, it is. According to ----Kenny----'s last communiqué he wasn't aware you had re-opened the borders either, and no-one can find the post. Nevertheless, ICly nobody knows that your absolute monarch has that account since it was anonymous. >_<

Again, Surailia:
OOC ≠ IC!

Snip

No, now you are just blending several different things. You are trying to use Bohemian as a blanket term when it's traditionally used to mean beatnik (Yes, beatnik, because they were the sort of people living in the poorer bits of france composing music and poetry and such), or the absinthe sipping literary elite of old (think Albert Camus).

Further more you go on to stereo type Indie culture as it is into the two views that you see it. The broad term that you also define as bohemian, but also includes hippies and such, and the kind of elitist hipsters that you dislike (fuck you, btw), but you also claim to know nothing about, and then turn around and say you did try it.

The genre of counter-culture itself is defined by it's music, because that's what people see. It usually serves better as a measuring stick of the ideals a certain group holds. And so if the whole idea of being independent from a record label is conformist, than what isn't?

Anyways, we are just arguing semantics at this point, so I am done discussing this.

Anyways, we are just arguing semantics at this point, so I am done discussing this.

Good-stuff, because this is International Incidents, not NSGeneral ;)

Hippies Scare me, so do Indies. But do you know what scares me most?
Emos.

Ahem

I have an announcement.
From this day on, I will become... *Shudder* Capitalist.
Yes, it is true. I was treacking Greal on NStracker, and I discovered that he has a Defense Budget six times of mine.
Well follow commies, it's been fun

The Beatus: What's going on in your nation?

The Beatus: What's going on in your nation?

Just a little civil war, that is all.

Just a little civil war, that is all.

Giz a sitrep, mate!

Ahem

I have an announcement.
From this day on, I will become... *Shudder* Capitalist.
Yes, it is true. I was treacking Greal on NStracker, and I discovered that he has a Defense Budget six times of mine.
Well follow commies, it's been fun

Nooooooooo! You don't have to be ICly capitalist. Me and Stok rp communist (technically socialist for me) nations, but oocly we support capitalism, thanks to the anti-commie bias.

Yus, IRL I'm actually more of a "capitalist communist" than a pure "communist" or pure "capitalist". Oxymorons! Of course, my NS nation in the page is considered to be an "iron fist consumerist", which is capitalist. Arr. Oh, and Yani, you feelin' better nao?

Ahem

I have an announcement.
From this day on, I will become... *Shudder* Capitalist.
Yes, it is true. I was treacking Greal on NStracker, and I discovered that he has a Defense Budget six times of mine.
Well follow commies, it's been fun

lol Greal. Why don't you use another nation with which to compare yourself?

lol Greal. Why don't you use another nation with which to compare yourself?

Like a nation that you know, isn't completely crap?

Yus, IRL I'm actually more of a "capitalist communist" than a pure "communist" or pure "capitalist". Oxymorons! Of course, my NS nation in the page is considered to be an "iron fist consumerist", which is capitalist. Arr. Oh, and Yani, you feelin' better nao?

Yes, I am feeling much better, thanks for asking.

Although now that I have seen my scores for last semester, I am contemplating the merits of hitting a brick wall at 90kmph (kidding, of course, I am not emo yet)

I did manage a perfect score on my english essay final though, so maybe all isn't lost.

Greal Joined exactly 1 week, 1 day after me. I thought it would be nice to compare with a nation that similare to mine. The Greal I knew then was quite good and stable, thus my now-defunct alliance, but I had Finals in Oct when the whole Red Skull Thing happened. But, what happened?

And Yani, remember, down the road, not across the street. ;)

Greal Joined exactly 1 week, 1 day after me. I thought it would be nice to compare with a nation that similare to mine. The Greal I knew then was quite good and stable, thus my now-defunct alliance, but I had Finals in Oct when the whole Red Skull Thing happened. But, what happened?

And Yani, remember, down the road, not across the street. ;)

Well, Greal massacred a bunch of citizens, had a rebellion, got invaded, massacred a bunch more, had about three more rebellions and was declared the least stable nation in all of NS.

Wow. I go for two weeks and he turns from adorable newb to evil killer. Very well, next person to match, Nova Pictavia.

* from the shadows, walks in The Ice Queen*

Well well well i leave for a week and you make one page *rolls eyes and walks away*

(that was OOC btw)

Good to hear about yani feeling better

Pride.

* from the shadows, walks in The Ice Queen*

Well well well i leave for a week and you make one page *rolls eyes and walks away*

(that was OOC btw)

Good to hear about yani feeling better

Pride.

It's been quiet, which is nice. There's been no need to sift through constant pages of stuff to get to something relevant.
We gathered that was OOC, and it's an OOC thread so you don't need to label it.
Pride?

Hubris :P . Greal is awesome still :D , and he's from nearly the same nationality as me! Hurrah!

What nationality is that?

(WARNING! Obligatory sarcastic remark below WARNING!)

Soviet Commiestan?

Also, NP, you have been hounding Surailia about that unfairly. He has been speaking OOCly a lot in this thread, not ICly, and yet you are on him to state which is which, when none of the rest of us have to.

If it's obviously OOC, then it's not IC, and he doesn't particularly need to be stated it as such.

Hubris :P . Greal is awesome still :D , and he's from nearly the same nationality as me! Hurrah!

What's that, then?

i was making it clear...because you people don't know that i am overly cynical and a drama queen hence getting me the nick name "Ice Queen" and since that can be easily misconstrued.......etc more of me talking

(thanks yani)

If it's obviously OOC, then it's not IC, and he doesn't particularly need to be stated it as such.

Erm... That is exactly what I just said, Yani.


Also, NP, you have been hounding Surailia about that unfairly. He has been speaking OOCly a lot in this thread, not ICly, and yet you are on him to state which is which, when none of the rest of us have to.

I was actually referring to Surailia differentiating OOC information and opinions from that of IC. For example, he sees promises to defend ----Kenny---- as unjust because ----Kenny---- is holding his finances, however ICly Pictavia doesn't know, although OOCly I do. I have to act ICly with only IC knowledge, separate from what I know OOCly. This is a staple of decent RP'ing.

I think when I receive a hail of messages and comments because of a misunderstanding that OOC knowledge isn't IC knowledge, it is perfectly understandable that I should be able to "hound" Surailia over recognizing the difference between the two.

OOC/IC labelling has not been the issue. Understanding what barriers the labels present, is.

Alright, I have to agree, in that case it is justified.

But it's been going on long after the event occured, with totally unrelated topics. Perhaps it has to do with TG's, in which case, that's your business.

Something else I wanted to say, but I can't quite remember.... Ah, yes, the freezing of accounts would not only be public knowledge, but highly publicized public knowledge. And a break down in relations like that, our leaders probably would have been waken up in the middle of the night and informed.

Alright, I have to agree, in that case it is justified.

But it's been going on long after the event occured, with totally unrelated topics. Perhaps it has to do with TG's, in which case, that's your business.

Something else I wanted to say, but I can't quite remember.... Ah, yes, the freezing of accounts would not only be public knowledge, but highly publicized public knowledge. And a break down in relations like that, our leaders probably would have been waken up in the middle of the night and informed.

yeah, it's been continued through telegram of late, although it's just a learning curve I suppose. As for the accounts, how wrong are you! Lol, the account is anonymous, so unless there has been any IC declaration of such, we wouldn't know that a Surailian Royal's account had been frozen in ----Kenny----. All we would see would be Surailia locking down the border, freezing all trade and preparing to invade a defenceless state, ya see?

I don'tsee.

You see, he froze every account belonging to any Surailian.

That's huge, public, news.

I don'tsee.

You see, he froze every account belonging to any Surailian.

That's huge, public, news.

Sorry, I guess I missed that bit. The borders were ordered to be closed before the accounts were frozen, however.

Indeed, but it's all very news worthy, and very unsettling to local leaders.

Look at his flag and you will know :D .

Wait, who's flag?

You're from Taiwan?

I know when i am speaking OOC


*speaking to himself*
yeah and that was my IC demands that he lets all Surailians have their money back ---no matter though its only 20T..... but the crown jewels are there and thats all i wanted back....but they can be re cast.... my colony in the Caribbean has found a fortune in pearls and my colony in south Africa has just gutted a mountain for gold.....and its frozen its not like they can take it.....wait this is all in my head.....why do i care so much.....I'm going to bed .....later peeps

*enter Ice Queen stage left*
hmm....1/2 page in one day....god bless me
*giggle and walk out*

Nyet, I'm from the big piece that claims to own Taiwan.

USA?
China? If yer from china, that explains the fact you're logged in at the right time, rather than dem filthy Americans.

USA?
China? If yer from china, that explains the fact you're logged in at the right time, rather than dem filthy Americans.

I'm going with China. What about you, Oily, where you from?

7 hours flight from Japan.

India? North Australia? Alaska? Hawaii?

7 hours flight from Japan.

Well that's conveniently vague. :rolleyes: Australia? Hawaii? California? Mongolia?

That explains a lot, Stok.

your from continental china....THE PRC?? hmm... you have exceptional grammar for an ESL if i haven't misunderstood ....i dont think your government would allow you on a site so....open minded as this one


....do the Chinese have gay rights....?

....your nation killed monks in lasha....

your from continental china....THE PRC?? hmm... you have exceptional grammar for an ESL if i haven't misunderstood ....i dont think your government would allow you on a site so....open minded as this one


....do the Chinese have gay rights....?

....your nation killed monks in lasha....

Where are you from, Surailia?

your from continental china....THE PRC?? hmm... you have exceptional grammar for an ESL if i haven't misunderstood ....i dont think your government would allow you on a site so....open minded as this one


....do the Chinese have gay rights....?

....your nation killed monks in lasha....

Tibet is infinitely better off than those slave-holders-in-all-but-name Monks.

Edit: I mistyped. Tibet is infinitely better off under Chinese rule, than with those yadda, yadda, yadda.

Heh, I don't live in China. I might be of that ethnicity, but I live on the West Coast :p .

I'm of Teutono-Celtic ethnicity, and live on the East Coast! Born in California, though.

Heh, I don't live in China. I might be of that ethnicity, but I live on the West Coast :p .

Tibet is infinitely better off than those slave-holders-in-all-but-name Monks.

Edit: I mistyped. Tibet is infinitely better off under Chinese rule, than with those yadda, yadda, yadda.

Yes because Who wouldn't want their culture destroyed, people massacred, and holy sites destroyed?:rolleyes:

Yes because Who wouldn't want their culture destroyed, people massacred, and holy sites destroyed?:rolleyes:

Of course! How foolish of me! Forced slavery under a theocratic dictator, with religious opposition met with torture, and pretty much any punishment resulting in your eyes being pulled out, or some other form of torture, added to a medieval level of technology, and no gender equality is TRILLIONS times better!!!!

Holy crap, I am so wowed at how much more appealing that is! Sign me up today, just after I have a lobotomy, and start washing my clothes with ammonia-rich urine!

Of course! How foolish of me! Forced slavery under a theocratic dictator, with religious opposition met with torture, and pretty much any punishment resulting in your eyes being pulled out, or some other form of torture, added to a medieval level of technology, and no gender equality is TRILLIONS times better!!!!

Holy crap, I am so wowed at how much more appealing that is! Sign me up today, just after I have a lobotomy, and start washing my clothes with ammonia-rich urine!
I'm not going to try and say which country the Tibetans were better off as a part of, but I do think China could at least have given the Tibetans some choice as to whether or not they wanted to join China, before invading.

-snip-

Whoa. Calm. Down. This isn't General.

Whoa. Calm. Down. This isn't General.

I am calm. It's just in this situation, I would drip sarcasm, which is hard to represent in text form

Of course! How foolish of me! Forced slavery under a theocratic dictator, with religious opposition met with torture, and pretty much any punishment resulting in your eyes being pulled out, or some other form of torture, added to a medieval level of technology, and no gender equality is TRILLIONS times better!!!!

Holy crap, I am so wowed at how much more appealing that is! Sign me up today, just after I have a lobotomy, and start washing my clothes with ammonia-rich urine!

Keep in mind that not every non-democratic government is an evil dictatorship, and that not all religious governments are opressive. What is right for a secular or church-state separated Western nation may not be the right thing for an undeveloped mountain kingdom where nearly the entire population sees a certain sprititual leader as their political leader as well.

China's not known for human punishment either.

Keep in mind that not every non-democratic government is an evil dictatorship, and that not all religious governments are opressive. What is right for a secular or church-state separated Western nation may not be the right thing for an undeveloped mountain kingdom where nearly the entire population sees a certain sprititual leader as their political leader as well.

China's not known for human punishment either.

Lesser of two evils. It's still evil, but not so much as the other.

In any case, the Dalai Lama's government is known to be extremely oppressive, and on top of that, wants to go back to the dark ages, where 1% of the people control 100% of the wealth.

At least under communist china, they have a chance to modernize, and at the very least wont be tortured for inexcusable offenses, such as not falling to your knees in worship when ever one of the religiously entitled walks by.

Honestly, Tibet made China look like a civil rights lovefest.

Lesser of two evils. It's still evil, but not so much as the other.

In any case, the Dalai Lama's government is known to be extremely oppressive, and on top of that, wants to go back to the dark ages, where 1% of the people control 100% of the wealth.

At least under communist china, they have a chance to modernize, and at the very least wont be tortured for inexcusable offenses, such as not falling to your knees in worship when ever one of the religiously entitled walks by.

Honestly, Tibet made China look like a civil rights lovefest.

Do they need to develop? (Not refuting your point, just exploring a related topic)

I think it's a bit ethnocentric of we, the First World, Western folks, to say that every country that is not like us is inferior and in need of help. What makes the US/Norwegian-donated textbooks in the refugee schools of Southern Sudan any better than the oral traditions and ancestral knowledge of their villages? It teaches them what they need to know to live there, where they will almost certainly live, rather than teaching them our Western educational topics, which will be of no use.

Do they need to develop? (Not refuting your point, just exploring a related topic)

I think it's a bit ethnocentric of we, the First World, Western folks, to say that every country that is not like us is inferior and in need of help. What makes the US/Norwegian-donated textbooks in the refugee schools of Southern Sudan any better than the oral traditions and ancestral knowledge of their villages? It teaches them what they need to know to live there, where they will almost certainly live, rather than teaching them our Western educational topics, which will be of no use.

Well, I am sure they love their grass huts. But I have a feeling they wont mind things like higher paying jobs, cars, and adequate food and clothing.

And my stance on the whole ethnocentric thing, I don't think it's ethnocentric at all. Textbooks and Oral Tradition are never mutually exclusive, so it's a non-issue. But instead of just saying "Ahh, let them just putz around buttsecks nowhere, ignorant of the larger world around them."

Not that they need to know about every western war ever. Afro-centric text books are obviously a more relevant tool, which can open a young child's eyes to the world immediately around him/her, and perhaps spark an interest in the nations further abroad.

Oh ho, calm down, or if you want, take it to General.

The Dalai Lama is a good spritual leader, that's the word, spiritual. Even if DL gets Tibet back from China, ther's no way that the populace is gonna have monarchy again, just look at Bhutan.

And yes, the vagueness is in my favor, but I will give you a clue-
Amnesty international dosen't like us

Whoa. Calm. Down. This isn't General.

Yeah. This is an OOC-Sign Up/Claims thread. Not NSGeneral.

I am calm. It's just in this situation, I would drip sarcasm, which is hard to represent in text form

Again, I was never uncalm. If that is a word.

gentlemen a clash of opinions is good...or we would be a suck region.... and since we are keeping this in ooc and in a single thread its bound to have tangent conversations


i dont know that much about pre-Mao Tibet but i can help but think that a nation ruled by the most peaceful man on earth would be a horrid dictatorship.... have ya been listening to the PRC's propoganda again....?

And yes, the vagueness is in my favor, but I will give you a clue-
Amnesty international doesn't like us

oily...what

and kirav makes a point also although why cant we offer the nations that have no idustrialisation a chance at wealth and prosperity,

sadly i am conflicted.... i am pro every civil rights in the book, but i think that unity is only humanly possible when we all conform...and that is Orwellian and makes me shake inside sadly i think that like our mother earth we have to wait the many years for the human turbulence to play itself out until we don't feel like disagreeing anymore....how i don't know...

i know that this whole post is grammatically atrocious ....so shoot me *grin*

i dont know that much about pre-Mao Tibet but i can help but think that a nation ruled by the most peaceful man on earth would be a horrid dictatorship....

Do the research. The new DL is just camera candy. My bet is that he is sniggering behind his back at us all, and will reinstate the horrid laws from before, and won't be overthrown because he is also a religious leader.

oh please you cant be a Buddhist and snigger it don't work like that bitches...and even if he does snigger when he gets his land back and oppresses the hell out of Tibet then we apologize to the Cathay and let them kick the shit out of Lhasa

Surailia's either high on crack or drunk. I don't know which.
No offence to you, but you can be buddhist and snigger. It's human nature.

Take it to ------------------> General (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1227)

gentlemen a clash of opinions is good...or we would be a suck region.... and since we are keeping this in ooc and in a single thread its bound to have tangent conversations

Nope.

General, or not at all. This is a sign-up/OOC/Claims thread in International Incidents. Not gunna say it again.

god picts you must work for the IRS...and if you don't..consider it

god picts you must work for the IRS...and if you don't..consider it

Uhuh.

god picts you must work for the IRS...and if you don't..consider it

Still, threadjacks =/= progress.

yeah that is true Akimonad...but i dont think its really anything you need to be concerned with as you aren't really part of this thread...but you are welcome in the discussion anyways....

i think its time we have a europa IC and OOC thread so that we can discuss aw well as intl incident ....but i wont tell his majesty picts how to do his sacred duty of thread manager

yeah that is true Akimonad...but i dont think its really anything you need to be concerned with as you aren't really part of this thread...but you are welcome in the discussion anyways....

i think its time we have a europa IC and OOC thread so that we can discuss aw well as intl incident ....but i wont tell his majesty picts how to do his sacred duty of thread manager

After careful consideration spanning some time, and involving the mediation of two other major NS nations who will remain anonymous (the decision was, nonetheless, unanimous among the three of us), I have decided that I do not wish Surailia to remain in Europa Atlantica. Thus, an eject and ban has been established and the regional password changed for security.
Surailia has been previously warned several times that certain actions are against the rules and spirit of the thread/region and so I do not wish to participate in EA with Surailia any longer.

If anyone greatly objects, then please telegram me and I will reply with more detailed reasoning behind this action. Due to the previous spamming of my inbox by Suralia, I do not want any more than one telegram from Surailia to which I will respond accordingly and maturely.

Cheers,
~Picts.

Sigh...thread owner's decree. I can't say much.

*Cries*

On another note, has anyone here been affected by the undersea cable saga? My internet's been running slow recently after the incident.

The one in Egypt of the Persian Gulf? Either way, I'm unaffected :p .

*Cries*

On another note, has anyone here been affected by the undersea cable saga? My internet's been running slow recently after the incident.

My netflix instant viewing doesn't work. Thats about it.

No effect on me. Btw, Stok, check your TGs about the artillery I named after your nation.

Oh, Ya, TG for NP

:D:D:D

Replied.

well...that is news

well i accept your kick and am sorry that i have wasted so many good hours on this region only to be kicked out for personal reasons (dont deny it Nova picatvia)

thank you for your time and i wish you all the best of luck in the future

(dont reply to this i wont be checking this thread anymore)

Europa Atlantica still accepting applications for nations?

Europa Atlantica still accepting applications for nations?

There's still room

Europa Atlantica still accepting applications for nations?

And how do we know that you're not Surailia? Created yesterday. Posts shortly after Surailia finds out he's getting kicked out. Not trying to be an ass, but it wouldn't be a big jump to assume that you are.

~shrugs~ I guess you don't. But I've never heard of Surailia(sp) before. I used to play NS about 4 years ago or so. Just coming back as a new nation. If you want, ask some of the people in the IRC chats of #nationstates_general we had a nice long discussion last night :P

But here are the basics of my nation:

Bithunia is an empire, ruled by the emporer (Archon) Josephus I Antipas.

The nation is steeped in Greco-Judean heritage, with a form of Greek being the de facto national language.

If you go by UN stats, my economy is strong, my p/f are excellent, and my c/r are good...for now.

The nation is at 6+ million, as of right now. But, the population will far exceed that within a week or so as we all know.

Hoping to occupy Turkey.

If anyone wishes any more info, or wants to make sure I'm not this other Sureilia guy/gal...feel free, and TG me. :D Just looking for a good RP.

-notes his request post has to be approved by a mod, reason for the delay-

~shrugs~ I guess you don't. But I've never heard of Surailia(sp) before. I used to play NS about 4 years ago or so. Just coming back as a new nation. If you want, ask some of the people in the IRC chats of #nationstates_general we had a nice long discussion last night :P

What nation. I can ask if any remeber ya.

What nation. I can ask if any remeber ya.

CeeDee & Gaelith we were the only 3 awake.

To tell you the truth I don't remember...I've had so many nations that I have rped with...(used to RP on MSN Chats in medieval). Strathclyde...Juanoia...most likely one of those two...

CeeDee & Gaelith we were the only 3 awake.

What i mean is what nation were you about 4 years ago.

-refer to 2 posts above-

We will know if a mod checks the IP or if both are on-line at the same time. Both on-line at the same time could mean different computers, though the IP cannot lie.

go for it, my IP is out of Waco, TX if ya'll wanna know ahead of time...

In the meantime, does it not allow posts of a certain length or something unless a mod approves it?

No, for the first 10 posts, they have to be Mod approved.

Unfortunately they still approve the first post "My nation is killing people that belong to group X (atheists, muslims, christians, communists, anarchists, capitalists)!"

Lighten up, guys. Surailia dosen't seem to be the restart kind of person.

Lighten up, guys. Surailia dosen't seem to be the restart kind of person.

Yeah, I agree.

silly me being an old reminiscent queen but i did check back

...its not me, my flame burns to bright....all you have is your name after all

Lighten up, guys. Surailia dosen't seem to be the restart kind of person.

I didn't really know him well enouhg, but I've seen it happen quite a few times. Many with hataria, but everyone figures it out shortly.

Got a TG from Surailia. Waiting for one from picts

To anyone, really, My Invasion Defence plan makes heavy use of the DMG M200 Desolator to destroy landers. NOw, it seems to me everyone hates DMG and his stuff, so is using this equipment viable?

Right, I'm just about to leave for work so I wont be on for about another eleven hours, so all telegrams will be replied to then. Sorry for the delay.

Bithunia, I'll also telegram you then.
Finally, Surailia, please don't post in this thread anymore.

Come on, Picts, it's not like he's spamming this thread.

Got a TG from Surailia. Waiting for one from picts

To anyone, really, My Invasion Defence plan makes heavy use of the DMG M200 Desolator to destroy landers. NOw, it seems to me everyone hates DMG and his stuff, so is using this equipment viable?

DMG is rubbish. The designs are as viable as anything from Command and Conquer Generals.

This design here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11369844&postcount=3397) is all that needs to be said.

not by a 500mm L/50.

I just designed a 200mm gun with an autoloader (The "Stoklomolvi" gun), and I had to lower the loading time to 3 rounds per minute.

That thing just isn't practical.

Edit: Time WAAAAARRRRPPP

Yes, but is anyone going to accept being shelled by them?

TimeWarp

Then? My entire defense plan hinges on DMG stuff, and I am gonna need new
Fighters
Interceptors
Navy
SAM Launchers
Arty
Nukes
and such

By any chance, can you divert the surailian stuff you were designing to me? :p

I can hook you up with arty. I even got a compliment from one of the older, experienced designers on my new 160mm howitzer. They should be going on sale tomorrow evening (my time, of course. It's 3:38am here, so what ever time you have, minus about 7 hours)

I also have a capable SAM vehicle (The Sipahi), although it's not dedicated. I am probably gonna develop a new SAM vehicle tomorrow, along with a new man portable SAM.

Otherwise, I'd see what the Draftroom designers have to offer.

Edit: just took a peak at the DMG AA. There is more wanking there than an all boys boarding school.

Pages and Pages to read, hooray!

Bithunia, any chance you'd be interested in occupying where Surailia used to be (France-ish area)? I really need a Monarchial neighbour. If not, that's kewl, it is your nation after all.

Sure, that would give kind of a twist...Greek Jewish people living in France...now that's a start for a storyline :P

Right, I'm just about to leave for work so I wont be on for about another eleven hours, so all telegrams will be replied to then. Sorry for the delay.

Bithunia, I'll also telegram you then.


Btw, no problemo :D

Due to being crazy busy at work, and with the new semester of Uni starting tomorrow, I'm somewhat snowed-under. As such, everything I've said I was going to do may not get done for a wee bit longer, sorry for the wait again guys (We're talking tomorrow if I don't get on tonight, as I'm just in from work and its 7pm).

Binuthia, you're welcome to carry on posting here until I finally get round to smacking a TG together.

Cheers,
~Picts.

No worries, and thanks.

TG for Picts

Seeing as Benelux would like me as a neighbor, would what is left of France be okay, with the Italian Alps as the southern border?

The approximate land area is 550,000km squared...I think. :P

If not, I'm definately not opposed to trimming off of the borders.

Thank you, Bithunia. My main issue with Surailia moving was gaining a neighbour with a Republic. As an absolute monarchy, it is nice to have similarly ruled countries near. Picts presented very good arguments as to why Surailia has been removed and I respect him for a well-written essay.

Keep in mind that Greek Jews wouldn't be out of place as although we resemble Europe it is not tied to Europe in any fashion. That's why The Beatus has the official language of English. Of course, some of us do stay true to our location.

I've asked everyone in the region this question and I hope I may get a response:

Bithunia, what are your nation's policies on drugs, abortion, prostitution and guns?

Drugs: Soft drugs are legal
Abortion: Strictly prohibited, except in life-threataning situations.
Prostitution: Banned, but not well enforced
Guns: Legal, unless your a known criminal or a mental case.

Well, I'm in the process of creating a Europa Atlantica forum on invisionfree, and I've hit a snag. None of the sections or forums are showing up, although I've clearly added them in the admin CP. Any ideas?

Bithunia, I'll review your land-claim later, although I'm in favour of the first border through France you had chosen since your nation is relatively small.

Bithunia, I had a military base/naval station in Surailia before he got kicked. Any chance I could keep that in exchange for credit at my storefront? It was in the modern day city of Brest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brest,_France).

NP: Same as WS. Never had any problem like that.

I should have gone with Invision Plus >_<
Although I'm not a fan of Invision, it did have the best offer of resources on the web, so out of simplicity I went with it in the end.

But yes, this is very annoying...

Maybe it's just you who can't see them. maybe if we visit we'll be able to see the forums and its just a matter of opening a new window/refreshing the page.

Well, I'm in the process of creating a Europa Atlantica forum on invisionfree, and I've hit a snag. None of the sections or forums are showing up, although I've clearly added them in the admin CP. Any ideas?


Invisionfree! I'm suprised at you! **slaps forum**

I dunno, Picts. It's never failed me before. I mean, the Belfast forum, the CN forum,...it's never done this to me to my knowledge.

Nevermind, 'tis fixed now. Forgot to sort out board permissions.

I'm good with invisionfree. Send me the link.

I used to get this problem a lot, you have to fix the masking feature so that everyone can see it.

just check all the boxes

No, checking ALL the boxes will allow some undesirables to see it as well, such as banned members.

No, checking ALL the boxes will allow some undesirables to see it as well, such as banned members.

okay geez, then just check the ones so that at least we can see them...

Forums are up. (http://z15.invisionfree.com/Europa_Atlantica/index.php?)
Please note, this is only the first version. I still need to refine the boards and perhaps add more topics et cetera. When joining, please use your nation's name or RP'ing name as your username. Registration may take a while as I have to validate everything manually, so bare with me, as I'm likely to fall asleep within the next half hour.

All IC events still belong in International Incidents however, so for the moment the boards are just for General chat and to host the map(s). Let me know what you think!

Does it let you see the forums as a guest? I've tried to set it so you have to log in, and so that I have to accept every registration. I'm presuming it's working that way...

registered

yes i can see it as a guest

WTF. The option is checked so you shouldn't be able too.

Does it let you see the forums as a guest? I've tried to set it so you have to log in, and so that I have to accept every registration. I'm presuming it's working that way...

yes i can see it as a guest

Maybe it's just you who can't see them. maybe if we visit we'll be able to see the forums and its just a matter of opening a new window/refreshing the page.

Indeed, it could just be a cookie thing.

WTF. The option is checked so you shouldn't be able too.

well i have to be logged in too...

I attempted to fix the forum's privacy issues. Can anyone who's not registered access the forums? The answer should be a "no", hopefully. Upon registration, you should be able to read-only until your account is validated, when you can do everything.

NP: No problem. Kind of lenient toward that one myself. Like I said, less of a worry for me with the whole naval deal.

Benelux: Drugs: Drugs are legal to consume, but not to produce.
Abortion: Considered murder, punishable by death.
Prostitution: Illegal, along with pornography
Guns: Basic right of every citizen. Cannot own anything more powerful than a 50cal though.

Yani: Sorry. Maybe through negotiations at a later date, but for now, no foreign military installations. I got to get my own military set up first.

Abortion: Legal only in the case of rape of for the mother's help
Prostitution: Legal and regulated
Guns: Legal

We did. Dutch just asked Bith, but then WS jumped in so Corbournne did it to, and now you are doing it.

Coulda sworn we did this already...

Drugs: Non-medical usage is illegal; punishable by death.
Abortion: Available.
Prostitution: Illegal; punishable by death.
Guns: Mandatory to own a 7.62mm or higher.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b46/skylarkjv/Bithunia.jpg

That would probably be a more accurate map of the sketched boundary of Bithunia's proposed claim.

Drugs: Non-medical usage is illegal; punishable by death.
Abortion: Available.
Prostitution: Illegal
Guns: Illegal

Picts, I received your TG, thanks, but I have a splitting headache, so I'll go over it tmr.

Argh.

I am proud to announce that our new, regional map is up in the regional message boards. Please take a look, and sign up to the forums if you haven't already! (I know, I spoil you lot silly sometimes :rolleyes: )

Drugs: Soft drugs are legal, anything hard isn't (such as cocaine)
Abortion: Legal, do not need parental consent if they're over 16.
Prostitution: Legal and regulated, figure its going to happen anyway so might as well control it. However, one can't be forced into the industry, and can seek help from the government if they're there against their will.

Thought i'd throw this out. What are your guy's view on nuclear weapons / WMD? Personally i'm against them. cost to much to develop and maintain, where the money could be spent in something more meaningful... not to mention what would happen if everyone launched nukes at each other

We have regional message boards now, Kabavian. Post a topic there and get a discussion going!
Also, Dutchy, you could remake your Drugs/whoring etc thread there, and compile the results everyone has given you.

Everyone: Death of a King (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548896)

Specifically mentioned as invited: Miamoria, Bithunia, Calzorinstan, ----Kenny----, Nova Pictavia, Yanitaria, Corbournne, No Taxes, Kabavian, Hectonia, Binaria, Oily Prata, Torvque, The Beatus, Stoklomolvi, West Scandia and Fjordenberg

NP: good idea.

Siriusa which nation are you in EA?

Drugs: Illegal; 'cept perscription, no narcotic ones
Abortion: Illegal 'cept in cases of rape or the mother's life is in danger
Prostitution: Illegal

Ha!

Yani: TG's.

I think I remember this too, but hey?

Drugs: High Government tax on the sale and purchase of drugs, I.E. we tax the person selling the drugs, and the one buying them, but legal
Abortion: High Government tax on both Having an Abortion, and Preforming an Abortion, I.E. we tax the woman, and the doctor, but legal
Prostitution: High Government tax on both parties, but legal
Guns: No tax, 100% legal to any extent, from pistols to RPGs, etc.

We like taxing things, and people for doing things.

Siriusa which nation are you in EA?

Drugs: Illegal; 'cept perscription, no narcotic ones
Abortion: Illegal 'cept in cases of rape or the mother's life is in danger
Prostitution: Illegal

Whoops! I posted with my main nation rather than Torvque!

Kenny! How could you? Dragging your puppets into this place too! :p

Kenny! How could you? Dragging your puppets into this place too! :p

Er...

Torvque = Siriusa

I don't know what Kenny is, so I can't help you there, but he sure as heck isn't me.

Whoops, that's an embarrassment. Sorry.

THIS IS SERIOUSE BUSINESSE!

Whoops, that's an embarrassment. Sorry.

THIS IS SERIOUSE BUSINESSE!

It couldn't be as serious as teh internets.

The War is over, Huzzah! I'm back!

Yay! JOIN TEH FORMS NAO!

What's left?

And can I not be in The British Archipelago, Bad memories for my people, who left there after an English attack on the Town of Liston.

A) There are no english in this region. There are Miamorians.
B) Liston most likely doesn't exist in the region
C) The British Isles (<- proper name) are taken by Miamoria and New Pictavia
D) Southern France-ish area, Italy, Portugal, some of northern africa, most of Turkey, Western Russia-ish area and some of the middle east is open. Keep in mind there are limited areas in N. Africa and the Mid E.

Can I have Northern Italy (down to Rome)? It's like my nation pretty much.

Liston is a town in Northern Dukeburyshire.

Yeah, this isn't Europe. We call the rl nations by the EA names. Scotch & Welsh are Picts, English are Miamorians, Spaniards are Kennyans (sp?), Dutch are well.....Dutch, etc...

No smiley accurately describes what I'm feeling towards your ignorance Bithynia. Welsh are Miamorian too. Irish is split between Miamorian and Picts so the specific location matters more. Yeah, Dutch are well...dutch. German are Calzorinstanian and I won't get into the other nationalities.

Dukeburyshire: Including or excluding the fictional town of Rome? I will have what a map of what I think you mean in a second.

Map? (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k155/Uiri/dukeburyshire.png)

Haha...you know good and well what I mean though, 'cause I wasn't about to go through all the nationalities either :P

Can I have Northern Italy (down to Rome)? It's like my nation pretty much.

Liston is a town in Northern Dukeburyshire.

Yay for people claiming small areas!

It makes it more like the RL Europe, where there are more smaller nations.

Whoops, that's an embarrassment. Sorry.

THIS IS SERIOUSE BUSINESSE!
__________________

lol Stok

What's left?

And can I not be in The British Archipelago, Bad memories for my people, who left there after an English attack on the Town of Liston.

Well you're in luck 'cuz all Great Britain and Ireland is currently claimed

Yeah, this isn't Europe. We call the rl nations by the EA names. Scotch & Welsh are Picts, English are Miamorians, Spaniards are Kennyans (sp?), Dutch are well.....Dutch, etc...

Kennyians are no where culturally near the Spanish actually...

btw, Kenny, I meant to ask you if you wanted to sign a Mutual Defence Pact.

Can I have Northern Italy (down to Rome)? It's like my nation pretty much.

Liston is a town in Northern Dukeburyshire.

Duke, expect a TG sometime soon.
Everyone else, back to your holes.
:D

btw, Kenny, I meant to ask you if you wanted to sign a Mutual Defence Pact.

Having a panic in case Aki invades? I noticed you applied to the Scandinvan Commonwealth too.

[Edit: actually I see that you and Stok both have more than enough mutual defence partners, I dare say this region is going to turn out like pre-WW1 Europe!]

Remember that players can RP what they choose to RP; if they didn't want for someone to interact with them, then they can slap a big ignore sticker on them.

* Stoklomolvi scrambles back into a hole

[Edit: actually I see that you and Stok both have more than enough mutual defence partners, I dare say this region is going to turn out like pre-WW1 Europe!]

Can I be Germany?

Well, if you're Germany then you failed :p .

Like the mistake of being Germany? :p

lol. No, like having a two front war in europe and getting rid off most of your best generals in the most critical point in the war.

Well, if you're Germany then you failed :p .

No, because I won't make the same stupid mistakes.

No, because I won't make the same stupid mistakes.

Like the mistake of being Germany? :p

Having a panic in case Aki invades? I noticed you applied to the Scandinvan Commonwealth too.

[Edit: actually I see that you and Stok both have more than enough mutual defence partners, I dare say this region is going to turn out like pre-WW1 Europe!]

[Long post about my tactical advantages, which I realized comprimise IC national security]

I think Stok and I could take him in a defensive war.

And more to the point, I am not going to call on Kenny's aid in this conflict. I've been meaning to ask him about this since he asked for help in getting Surailia off his back. And the Scandinvan Commonwealth thing is for just in case I lose, I can get free food and cheap oil, which can pull my nation out faster.

Remember that players can RP what they choose to RP; if they didn't want for someone to interact with them, then they can slap a big ignore sticker on them.

* Stoklomolvi scrambles back into a hole

Indeed, but I would not sacrifice any respect I have earned by ignoring an invasion. I think I can win, if it comes to war, and if I am wrong, then I become the leading exporter of Plate glass (from my own nukes, no less, as I would rather nuke myself rather than surrender), and perhaps take a few of Aki's cities with me if he retaliates to my nuclear suicide with more nukes.

OOC: I am interested in joining this region, as I would like active neighbours to my country. However, my claim might be pushing it a little bit, as Kalbekistan is supposed to be on the same geographical area as Turkmenistan, which A) is just on the map in terms of its most western point at the Black Sea and B) seems to be owned by Stoklomolvi. Perhaps if I could possibly come to some arrangement with Stok regarding this, I might be able to join?

Many thanks.

Sorry, but Turkmenistan's more or less off of the map, and so not in the region.

Any chance I could get an update of who exactly is in the NOP? 'Cause shortly you all may be enemies of the Imperium! :p

My military is up for a war now that the civil war is over. They really didn't do anything in it anyway, half of our troops weren't even in the nation for it, but it all worked out in the end. All in all, the Beatus is back on the world scene now.

Any chance I could get an update of who exactly is in the NOP? 'Cause shortly you all may be enemies of the Imperium! :p

Me, Stok, Surailia (half member really, since this is mostly a regional thing), and (if he is back in, since his civil war is over) Beatus.

'Tis a secret, NP! The world will never know...

ICly the NOP has a website, which presumably would list the member nations.

'Tis a secret, NP! The world will never know...

I'm not in it...and I'm staying neutral :P...*becomes Switzerland*

*ponders if the geographical region of France is affecting his bravery*.....

From what I've read it sounds good, though I must admit that I am far too lazy to read the whole thing. I haven't even bothered coming up with a constitution for my own nation.

Edit: lol, I timewarped the Beatus' post to the next page.

New Government, Again!

Constitution Here:
Beatusian Constitution (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549074)

WooHoo!

I'd like to 'apply' to join, and if the map is correct and if I am able too, could I claim "Portugal"?

*Laughs at all the pitiful nations down south worried about invaders conquering them, then sees Stok, before hiding in a bunker and placing big shiny missiles on the border.*

* Stoklomolvi ponders over why Oily Prata, a larger nation is worried over a small looking nation which is just sitting there

finally got my embassy built, took long enough

I would like to apply to EA. If it is possible I would like the region to the east of Finland.

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! *Deep breath* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Stok, you can't invade it if someone doesn't own it now...:P play nice, invade later :D

I'd like to 'apply' to join, and if the map is correct and if I am able too, could I claim "Portugal"?

I would like to apply to EA. If it is possible I would like the region to the east of Finland.

As long as you have an IC reason for inhabiting that area, i.e racial migration or such, then I don't see why not. Make sure you read the rules on the first post, and then telegram me (just so I know you aren't making a drive-by post and are actually watching this thread, as the last smaller nation that asked to join never showed up).

Anyways, then I'll reply to your telegram with the regional password and anything else you need to know.

Cheers,
~Picts.

As long as you have an IC reason for inhabiting that area, i.e racial migration or such, then I don't see why not. Make sure you read the rules on the first post, and then telegram me (just so I know you aren't making a drive-by post and are actually watching this thread, as the last smaller nation that asked to join never showed up).

Anyways, then I'll reply to your telegram with the regional password and anything else you need to know.

Cheers,
~Picts.

Picts, if we are making this our nation's homeland, wouldn't the IC reason be that you've been there for centuries?

Anyone else notice how Calzorinstan hasn't updated the map in his signature and he RPs to the map in his sig? And how TFEI hasn't posted in here in forever?

Why is it that nowadays large nations tend to be newer RPers?

Why is it that nowadays large nations tend to be newer RPers?

What do you mean by that?

Well, that was very broad. I mean, Kenny made his first few posts here, Corbournne is larger than I am and also essentially started out here, etc. I'm not referring to Binaria or No Taxes.

Well, that was very broad. I mean, Kenny made his first few posts here, Corbournne is larger than I am and also essentially started out here, etc. I'm not referring to Binaria or No Taxes.

I disagree completely, i've been rping for quite awhile just not on this profile...

Hey it just seems that way; I don't really know. Unless everyone here is a puppet...

Picts, if we are making this our nation's homeland, wouldn't the IC reason be that you've been there for centuries?

XD
Yes, but you'd have to explain how the EA equivalent of, say, Celts ended up establishing a successful civilization in Iberia (Kenny, as an example). In RL, the Celts moved into Iberia but did not remain dominant so I presume the alternate history as such would begin with a far larger volume of Celtic settlers erm, 'settling' in Iberia and resisting immigrants. Am I making sense here?

Anyone else notice how Calzorinstan hasn't updated the map in his signature and he RPs to the map in his sig? And how TFEI hasn't posted in here in forever?

Yes, actually. Tell Calizorinstan to dae summat 'bout at! And I think TFEI's largely been busy wit' real stuff.

Why is it that nowadays large nations tend to be newer RPers?

a few times, I've noticed this too, although I just presumed it to have been a regular thing. That is, people playing as nations for a year or so before beginning to RP, not something too new to II. Of course, this is just an assumption.

------Official Diplomatic Communique------

-From- The House of Boothby
-To- Nations of Europa Atlantica

The House of Boothby is now accepting applications for embassy and consulates. To submit an application please see the attached document (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13439282#post13439282).

Regards,
Charles Halsie Clark, international diplomatic advisor to the House of Boothby

APPROVED - Thomas Christopher Clark Boothby, hereditary ruler of the House of Boothby

-----------------------------

-----From the desk of Susan Garland Boothby, Secretary of the Interior to the House of Boothby-----

To all nations of Europa Atlantica,
After completing a preliminary census of the House of Boothby the following document (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549390) has been prepared for your international relations bureaus. Please understand this is document is preliminary and subject to editing.

We hope through making this document (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549390) available we may encourage intra-regional interest in our small but promising nation.

If you have any questions about the census or the House of Boothby I will be available to answer our inquiries or pass them along to the appropriate persons.

Regards,
Susan Garland Boothby, Secretary of the Interior to the House of Boothby

AUTHORIZED: Thomas Christopher Clark Boothby, hereditary ruler of the House of Boothby

Oddly the moment Boothby appeared everything seemed to abruptly stop...

Oddly the moment Boothby appeared everything seemed to abruptly stop...

Doh!

Where is everybody?

On the regional boards?

New map is up. I'm planning on making some minor changes in the next version, like finishing off the Beatus/Stoklomolvi border and changing the Southern France border to include N.Italy. In return, N.Italy will be given Sardinia.

Oh, and all you nations who posted saying you were going to join but never did (3 in the past week or so, I believe), where are you?
Please only post if you're serious about joining, and reply to the TG I send you.

Cheers,
~Picts.

POST!!!
Sorry for the spam

POST!!!
Sorry for the spam

Erm, what? :rolleyes:

It may just be me but I think Boothby is too big.

I don't know who told you that... but why am I not surprised... I mean, girls chat don't they?

I don't know who told you that... but why am I not surprised... I mean, girls chat don't they?

Lol! XD
But seriously though, I thought so too, but were I to split the nation I don't think anyone else would be fighting for the territory, it's not like Western Europe. I'll rethink it depending on what others feel. Any thoughts?

Lol! XD
But seriously though, I thought so too, but were I to split the nation I don't think anyone else would be fighting for the territory, it's not like Western Europe. I'll rethink it depending on what others feel. Any thoughts?

I'm sure soon, someone will cut him down to size, like a certain someone who's been eying that land for a while. Not me, but someone.

In all seriousness I agree, it is a big chunk of the map and my population is very small. Thats just how the map of carved up. Also, my nation does not claim to have inhabitants in southern most regions, indeed we do not use them much.
I would not be opposed to cropping my region. Possibly my southern most borders could be at the Gulf of Finland? That would more then half my total size.
My nation primarily relies on maritime trade so the southern extreme is not to integral. If anything we have our eye on expanding along the coast of the White Sea.

Thoughts?

Snip

Actually, the way you handled that was pretty damn decent, and has made my job a hell of a lot easier. I'll crop it back on the next map-edit.

Cheers,
~Picts

So...what are we gonna do about Aki?

On one hand he is fighting the economic system which allows for the least amount of work with the same pay.

On the other hand he is invading the region.

On yet another hand a North Sea nation has gone with Aki and a Lefty has removed the citizens of another N. Sea nation.

On the last hand it doesn't concern me much as I'm not on the mediterranean sea and that is most likely Aki's route to Yani and Stok.

If Surailia was still around I would've gotten Miamoria and used it as an excuse to extend the borders of my Kingdom and Miamoria's Empire but because he was ejected there isn't much to do but issue a Royal Decree.

Soviet Aissur wish to join this region.

Nation: The United Socialist States of Soviet Aissur
Government: Communism.
Why should you allow us to join? I am very active in the II forums and region.
Land wanted: The Territory under Stoklomolvi.
Reason Aissur would be in this land: Soviet Aissur was born out of the oringinal USSR and the main Ethnic group of Soviet Aissur is from Europe.

Soviet Aissur wish to join this region.

Nation: The United Socialist States of Soviet Aissur
Government: Communism.
Why should you allow us to join? I am very active in the II forums and region.
Land wanted: The Territory under Stoklomolvi.
Reason Aissur would be in this land: Soviet Aissur was born out of the oringinal USSR and the main Ethnic group of Soviet Aissur is from Europe.

Erm, could you be more specific as to what territory you're after? The very south-eastern plot isn't divided as I just considered it as out of the region. However, the map is out of date as Boothby has withdraw his borders to end with the southernmost point of Torvque, so to speak.

Erm, could you be more specific as to what territory you're after? The very south-eastern plot isn't divided as I just considered it as out of the region. However, the map is out of date as Boothby has withdraw his borders to end with the southernmost point of Torvque, so to speak.On second thought, the land right under Yanitaria is fine if it is open. (The one bordering the Sea.)

On second thought, the land right under Yanitaria is fine if it is open. (The one bordering the Sea.)

Turkey, you mean? I've divided the south-east up now if you'd like to take a look. The new map will be up in seconds.

On one hand he is fighting the economic system which allows for the least amount of work with the same pay.

Yanitarian Socialism works differently.

Turkey, you mean? I've divided the south-east up now if you'd like to take a look. The new map will be up in seconds.Okay. I wish to claim the territory right under Stoklomolvi.

Okay. I wish to claim the territory right under Stoklomolvi.

I know where you mean, but in the future more specific points of reference would be appreciated. I've sent you a TG with the regional password.

I know where you mean, but in the future more specific points of reference would be appreciated. I've sent you a TG with the regional password.Yeah I defeintly have to remeber to be very specific.

Kabavian is announcing the formation of a mutual defensive pact with Yanitaria. This pact is the first step in creating ties with Yanitaria and our country will benefit from Yanitaria's military experience and technology. As such, there will be increase military and economic cooperation between our nations.

Ministry of Military and Defense
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg13/kabavian/AlidKabihr.png
Alid Kabihr

Hey Kenny, what's your policy on ships traveling through the straight of giltibar (if you even have one)?

*Feels Claustrophobic*

Hey Kenny, what's your policy on ships traveling through the straight of giltibar (if you even have one)?

I have a basic idea but i'll post it here later tonite

O btw Kabavian, i'm going to make a map of ----Kenny---- so we can kinda synch ours if you want

Kabavian is announcing the formation of a mutual defensive pact with Yanitaria. This pact is the first step in creating ties with Yanitaria and our country will benefit from Yanitaria's military experience and technology. As such, there will be increase military and economic cooperation between our nations.

Ministry of Military and Defense
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg13/kabavian/AlidKabihr.png
Alid Kabihr

Tree bitch, use the IMG tags, not the URL tages.

For reference, Kaba is a friend of mine IRL, and that's my nickname for him.

So, is there a policy for the ----Kenny--- / Kabavian straights? I'd imagine it'd have to be fairly open since No Taxes' trade will need access through there.

So, is there a policy for the ----Kenny--- / Kabavian straights? I'd imagine it'd have to be fairly open since No Taxes' trade will need access through there. At the moment it is, i was just wondering as we share the straight if he held any specific opinions about it. I can't see myself changing it being from completely open unless ---Kenny--- has some drastic policy.

Nation: The Protecterate of Blakn.
Government: Communism.
Why should you allow us to join? I am a protecterate of Soviet Aissur and I will be very active in the forums.
Land wanted: Territory to the East of Soviet Aissur and south of Yanitaria.
Reason Blakn would be in this land: 90% of Blakn's Ethnic group's are from European descent.

Are you a puppet? Just throwing that out there.:p

Nope! I wouldn't have applied if I was. Aissur and me have discussed the exact nature of our alliance. My government will run compleatly independant of Soviet Aisssur. However, Aissur must supply aid to Blakn in times of need. Currently Aissur is supplying Police aid as crime is on the rise. Blakn must allow military base to be constructed in Blakn, and to allow Aissur command of the waters west of Blakn.

Nation: The Protecterate of Blakn.
Government: Communism.
Why should you allow us to join? I am a protecterate of Soviet Aissur and I will be very active in the forums.
Land wanted: Territory to the East of Soviet Aissur and south of Yanitaria.
Reason Blakn would be in this land: 90% of Blakn's Ethnic group's are from European descent.

Hmmm

At the moment it is, i was just wondering as we share the straight if he held any specific opinions about it. I can't see myself changing it being from completely open unless ---Kenny--- has some drastic policy.

The only policy i have to say: While I won't allow narotics and nuclear power vessels on the Kennyian side of the Straight, they are free to pass through the Kabavian Side.

Nation: The Protecterate of Blakn.
Government: Communism.
Why should you allow us to join? I am a protecterate of Soviet Aissur and I will be very active in the forums.
Land wanted: Territory to the East of Soviet Aissur and south of Yanitaria.
Reason Blakn would be in this land: 90% of Blakn's Ethnic group's are from European descent.

I can't help but be a tad sceptical, you're claiming to be a protectorate by a separate player, but you're brand new with an almost exact application post as Soviet, alongside the fact you don't seem to know that land is called "Turkey" either... Either way I'd like to see you play a little more before joining, as we've had a large influx of smaller nations of late.

As a note to newcomers: Puppets are allowed in the region for ease of access, however are not ICly recognized and thus not on the map.

Thoughts, everyone?

I'm fine with that

I'm fine with that

Fine with him joining, or fine with what I suggested?

I can't help but be a tad sceptical, you're claiming to be a protectorate by a separate player, but you're brand new with an almost exact application post as Soviet, alongside the fact you don't seem to know that land is called "Turkey" either... Either way I'd like to see you play a little more before joining, as we've had a large influx of smaller nations of late.

As a note to newcomers: Puppets are allowed in the region for ease of access, however are not ICly recognized and thus not on the map.

Thoughts, everyone?Alright then. I can see why you would deny it. I will contact you later after I have played more. Thank you for your time.

I'm not sure if I agree with your decision whole heartily Nova Pictavia, but, it is your decision and not mine. I think he just went to the last page and looked for an application to use.

Blakn is my friend from a diffrent forum and he is a very excelent Role Player. I suggested he join NS since there are very good Role Plays and Role Players alike.

I'm fine with Blakn joining :p .

Greetings from the Holy Empire of Anselmus! We would love to join your beautiful region of Europa Atlantica as we owe much of our cultural heritage to both the United Kingdom and the Roman Empire. As a result, we consider ourselves a very European nation. In addition, we are looking for a region that requires active participation as we ourselves are looking to become more active in the world of NS, though we have been on NS quite some time. Ideally, we would like to occupy the available land on the Baltic, but we can see your map is almost entirely filled up. Thus, we will accept any land allotted to us. Thank you for your time and consideration.

EDIT: Sorry, we would prefer the land on the northern Mediterranean coast to be close to our Roman heritage. Thank you.

I welcome thee to our humble home, Anselmus. However, it's still under NP's jurisdiction.

Thank you. We hope everyone else is as welcoming.

Greetings from the Holy Empire of Anselmus! We would love to join your beautiful region of Europa Atlantica as we owe much of our cultural heritage to both the United Kingdom and the Roman Empire. As a result, we consider ourselves a very European nation. In addition, we are looking for a region that requires active participation as we ourselves are looking to become more active in the world of NS, though we have been on NS quite some time. Ideally, we would like to occupy the available land on the Baltic, but we can see your map is almost entirely filled up. Thus, we will accept any land allotted to us. Thank you for your time and consideration.

EDIT: Sorry, we would prefer the land on the northern Mediterranean coast to be close to our Roman heritage. Thank you.

Bienvenue (before anyone gets on me for the french, when it's just "Welcome" with no verb, you use the feminine form).

Nation: The Protecterate of Blakn.
Government: Communism.
Why should you allow us to join? I am a protecterate of Soviet Aissur and I will be very active in the forums.
Land wanted: Territory to the East of Soviet Aissur and south of Yanitaria.
Reason Blakn would be in this land: 90% of Blakn's Ethnic group's are from European descent.

Me and Kaba had a similar plan, but he was going to be capitalist and I would invade him and install a friendly government, and name him a protectorate.

Sorta just skipped that, though.

Damn! Forgot. 欢迎您到我们的家。

Huan Ying, Huan Ying. Namaste. Salaam. Bonjour. Yo.
100 PAGE ALERT.
*Has Ticker Tape parade*

*Throws underground gladiator match to out do the ticker tape parade*

*Launches nuclear fireworks- wait, oh no*

Dang. Now i have to retailate. *Nukes Stoklomolvi into plate glass*

*Launches nuclear fireworks- wait, oh no*

Dang. Now i have to retailate. *Nukes Stoklomolvi into plate glass*

MAD. A single ballistic missile submarine holds enough nukes to destroy the entire northern hemisphere of the earth.

MAD. A single ballistic missile submarine hold enough nukes to destroy the entire northern hemisphere of the earth.

I have a crap load of SSBNs. I could probably level all of EA and more if i wanted too.

I have a crap load of SSBNs. I could probably level all of EA and more if i wanted too.

http://c-g-i.info/images/nuclear-weapons-chart.jpg

It'd be a suicide mission, given the scale of NS budgets and the scale of EA.

It'd be a suicide mission, given the scale of NS budgets and the scale of EA.


Actualy EA is the same size as real Europe. Which helps me more than what you'd think. A low angle quasi ballistic lob shot would be almost impossible to track. I would have you wiped out before your counter would be in the air.

Actualy EA is the same size as real Europe. Which helps me more than what you'd think. A low angle quasi ballistic lob shot would be almost impossible to track. I would have you wiped out before your counter would be in the air.

Which leaves one problem.

Our (collective EA) SSBNs may be at sea, on the other side of the world.

Or like me, you have a secret military base on Okhotsk (among other places) where there have "absolutely no nuclear weapons, nope, no siree bob, none here, go away."

That's on the other side of Stoklomolvi, which means that I'll have plenty of time to set us up the bomb. Which brings another point. Stok's capital is on the other side of Stoklomolvi. Presumably he has nukes there too.

Pictavia probably has their missiles squirreled away on some island located north of them, which makes it harder to find.

And people like me have an interesting hiding place for our nukes.

And finally, there are satellite n00ks. Like a needle in space.

So pretty much any way you look at it, it is mutually assured destruction. Everyone in EA loses, because even the ones who don't fire will glow green at night. Hell, even if you glassed a nation the size of Benelux, the radiation spreads outward. Chernobyl affected places as far away as Canada. And that was one nuclear bomb. Not even a hydrogen or neutrino bomb (nuclear device that releases more radiation than actual explosive force, for those of you who are uninformed).

I sell the plate glass for $150 by the pound.

Lasers and railguns and coilguns oh my!

I'm not sure if I agree with your decision whole heartily Nova Pictavia, but, it is your decision and not mine. I think he just went to the last page and looked for an application to use.

Blakn is my friend from a diffrent forum and he is a very excelent Role Player. I suggested he join NS since there are very good Role Plays and Role Players alike.

S'alright, I understand, I'm just wary about brand new nations joining under the banner of an existing nation, as it seems as though they were created solely for the purpose of being a protectorate and thus an extension of Soviet territory. After all, we could all just ask a mate to create a nation and claim territory with the intent of handing it over to us in the end, it sorta bypasses the fair claims bit.

Nevertheless, I'd like to give Blakn and Anselmus a trial period in the region, as I think would be a decent policy for new players (as we do seem to have an influx of them). Just to see how they play, how active they are et cetera. Both of you, look to your TG's.

Also, Dutchy, is Miamoria ever active in the regional or II? I've not seen anything from him since he joined and it is prime territory he's inhabiting. It's just the brief for the region is very definite in saying that it is for nations active in II. I've not seen Hectonia around much either...

EDIT: Anselmus and Blakn have been TG'd with an invite to join the region for a trial period, although I'm still unsure of Blakn as it looks increasingly like (as in the nation's title) Blakn was created specifically for the purpose of being a Soviet protectorate, be it by another player. So, if Blakn isn't active or independent as described then don't be offended if I reverse my decision. The only way to be fair is to see how you do in EA.

Secondly, I'm getting a bit concerned that with the influx of new players, EA is in danger of becoming a "noob farm", so to speak. As such, I'll only be accepting new nations who are well-written/presented or have examples of prior Rp'ing in the future.

It may seem tough, but while I respect that NS is a learning curve, I still want a majority of experienced RP'ers to maintain the quality of the region.

Any questions?

We'd like to thank you all for accepting us into the region. As for our claims, we would like to have the Italian peninsula south of the Alps, in addition to Sicily, Corsica, and Sardinia. Thank you.