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Marxikhan
10-06-2007, 23:55
And also i've heard rumurs about somthing that had to do with the Suez Cannal? Is it true? Can i get a link to what is going on?
Ambrose-Douglas
10-06-2007, 23:56
And also i've heard rumurs about somthing that had to do with the Suez Cannal? Is it true? Can i get a link to what is going on?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529514&highlight=Canal

He wants everyone to pay a 1% tariff to use the Canal... you'll find I'm much more conciliatory with the RL Panama Canal.
Opinno Nova
10-06-2007, 23:58
EDIT: On second thought, due to time constraints, I rescind this claim.
Marxikhan
11-06-2007, 00:00
I would like to claim the RL nation of Cote d'Ivoire if possible. I have few posts but I am a well experienced RPer, this is a puppet nation.
Dude, i have no idea what that is...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529514&highlight=Canal

He wants everyone to pay a 1% tariff to use the Canal... you'll find I'm much more conciliatory with the RL Panama Canal.

1% isn't that much, smaller countrys need protectionsim to help the economy, and besides, it is their cannal...
Ambrose-Douglas
11-06-2007, 00:01
Dude, i have no idea what that is...


1% isn't that much, smaller countrys need protectionsim to help the economy, and besides, it is their cannal...

Corte d'Ivorie, more commonly known as the Ivory Coast, is a small country in Africa.
Animarnia
11-06-2007, 00:02
This sounds awfully familiar. Didn't I take over Diego Garcia, Ascension, and St. Helena?

Never the less, I may take offense to the seizure of those islands.

Yeah you did; Well maybe we can buy you off with a Joint Ownership of the Islands like you did for Diego Garcia and us on ESS?
Animarnia
11-06-2007, 00:04
Dude, i have no idea what that is...


1% isn't that much, smaller countrys need protectionsim to help the economy, and besides, it is their cannal...

Pssh. the Red Sea is international Waters. he's actually making ships stop at Yeman or Somalia which is not the canal where he has no authority to do so as I think there is a narrow strech of International waters.
Marxikhan
11-06-2007, 00:04
Corte d'Ivorie, more commonly known as the Ivory Coast, is a small country in Africa.

ah, now that is a name i know...(claim some more nations!!!)
Granate
11-06-2007, 00:10
Yeah you did; Well maybe we can buy you off with a Joint Ownership of the Islands like you did for Diego Garcia and us on ESS?

You'd be surprised how well that works and such as it will this time as well. Yes, joint-ownership sounds fine. Ascension has more strategic value then St. Helena, mostly because it has an Airfield unlike St. Helena.
Granate
11-06-2007, 00:12
Pssh. the Red Sea is international Waters. he's actually making ships stop at Yeman or Somalia which is not the canal where he has no authority to do so as I think there is a narrow strech of International waters.

Considering Dijibouti is closer to Yemen then Somalia that would true.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 01:01
Yo guys what up. Im back on for a while and should be very active this week.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 01:10
Been catching up on the posts- looks like everyone had a good time ripping Granate. sheesh.

Where is the mod poll?
Marxikhan
11-06-2007, 01:25
Pssh. the Red Sea is international Waters. he's actually making ships stop at Yeman or Somalia which is not the canal where he has no authority to do so as I think there is a narrow strech of International waters.

You got another TG, and i was not aware of that part...eh i still think i support him on this though
Ambrose-Douglas
11-06-2007, 01:38
You got another TG, and i was not aware of that part...eh i still think i support him on this though

Charging to use the canal I think is ok... Yemen though isn't the canal, and that I don't agree with.
Granate
11-06-2007, 01:41
Been catching up on the posts- looks like everyone had a good time ripping Granate. sheesh.

It's the new sport that is sweeping NS. Quick, join in the fun or else you'll be left behind!

But in all seriousness, I don't care if people hate me.
Granate
11-06-2007, 01:42
Charging to use the canal I think is ok... Yemen though isn't the canal, and that I don't agree with.

The Suez Canal is in Egypt.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 01:42
I don't use the Canals mostly. Why would I want to? I just fly most of my trade.
Ambrose-Douglas
11-06-2007, 01:43
The Suez Canal is in Egypt.

I know that... he's planning on stopping people at Yemen/Somalia to charge them to use a canal in Egypt... that's what I don't agree with.
Granate
11-06-2007, 01:43
I don't use the Canals mostly. Why would I want to? I just fly most of my trade.

Planes can't carry nearly as much as a Train or a Cargo Ship. And planes are alot more expensive, thats why most of the world's trade is done by boat.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 01:44
It's the new sport that is sweeping NS. Quick, join in the fun or else you'll be left behind!

But in all seriousness, I don't care if people hate me.

durrr... You encourage them. Your like "Yay!!! Hate Me!!!!"

I remember you saying a few pages back "I quite Like being a pompous ass." Or something to that effect.
Granate
11-06-2007, 01:46
durrr... You encourage them. Your like "Yay!!! Hate Me!!!!"

I remember you saying a few pages back "I quite Like being a pompous ass." Or something to that effect.

I do like being a pompous ass. Being a metalhead will do that to you.
Ambrose-Douglas
11-06-2007, 01:46
I don't use the Canals mostly. Why would I want to? I just fly most of my trade.

Trade by water is by far the cheapest form of trade... I'd encourage you to look at the Karlonian Canal thread (RL Panama Canal), where I just ask for diplomatic relations instead of chargin tariffs.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 01:48
Planes can't carry nearly as much as a Train or a Cargo Ship. And planes are alot more expensive, thats why most of the world's trade is done by boat.

I mean my trade with nations that I would normally use a ship to reach. Like all the European nations are land transport, same with the Middle East. But if I do ship to AB in Japan, its by plane. But most of my trade stays within Europe and the Middle East. Some to Asia, but thats land as well. And If I wish to trade with the Western Hemisphere, there are no canals neccessary.
Granate
11-06-2007, 01:50
I mean my trade with nations that I would normally use a ship to reach. Like all the European nations are land transport, same with the Middle East. But if I do ship to AB in Japan, its by plane. But most of my trade stays within Europe and the Middle East. Some to Asia, but thats land as well. And If I wish to trade with the Western Hemisphere, there are no canals neccessary.

Trade from you to AB would cost millions, it's alot cheaper shipping it. You can also carry more in a single Cargo Ship compared to a single Cargo Plane.
Shakal
11-06-2007, 02:23
Futurnis I need you to RP those balkan NPC. You still havent replied.
Honako
11-06-2007, 16:48
The Suez thing is annoying as it cuts off some trade to European nations, however I want pay it - $10 billion for access a year! Whatever.

Also, can someone RP the Mongol's - Kamp, you can do it if you want (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529532).
Granate
11-06-2007, 16:49
The Suez thing is annoying as it cuts off some trade to European nations, however I want pay it - $10 billion for access a year! Whatever.

Also, can someone RP the Mongol's - Kamp, you can do it if you want (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529532).

Or you could be like me and refuse to do pay. If the situation gets any worse I may deploy ships into the region.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 16:49
OK, I'll do mongols. Someone needs to RP the Balkans. I thought Futuris was, be we need some posts from him if he is. If not, someone else needs to do it.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 16:51
Or you could be like me and refuse to do pay. If the situation gets any worse I may deploy ships into the region.

I'm already planning on running it. Then he told me OOCly he can't enforce it. So I'm not payin crap.
Granate
11-06-2007, 16:54
I'm already planning on running it. Then he told me OOCly he can't enforce it. So I'm not payin crap.

Then run it. If he actually tries to enforce it, retreat to Dijibouti.
Granate
11-06-2007, 16:57
I have refused - I meant to say "won't" not "want" - however, is there actaully any international waters in the Suez Canal...? I probs should of done my research.

He can't do shit with the Suez Canal, since it's in Egypt. He's trying to enforce trade coming out of the Red Sea and into the Gulf of Aden.
Honako
11-06-2007, 16:57
Or you could be like me and refuse to do pay. If the situation gets any worse I may deploy ships into the region.

I have refused - I meant to say "won't" not "want" - however, is there actaully any international waters in the Suez Canal...? I probs should of done my research.
Honako
11-06-2007, 17:01
OK, I'll do mongols. Someone needs to RP the Balkans. I thought Futuris was, be we need some posts from him if he is. If not, someone else needs to do it.

Good.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 17:39
Replied as Mongols!

Its a good 'un too
Honako
11-06-2007, 17:48
Replied as Mongols!

Its a good 'un too

By your indication of no reply, a peaceful handover isn't an option? Also, the arming of the people bit - hmm, that would take a while, and not everyone is loyal to their country, so I'll pretend that it is very minimal.

Ok then.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 17:51
By your indication of no reply, a peaceful handover isn't an option? Also, the arming of the people bit - hmm, that would take a while, and not everyone is loyal to their country, so I'll pretend that it is very minimal.

Ok then.

Well, you didn't actually send me a message, so I didn't know what to reply to.

And the cities are gonna be like Mogadishu. :) But if you bomb em, that takes care of the problem. Also, civ soldiers are less likely to keep fighting if everyone keeps dying...
Droskianishk
11-06-2007, 17:54
Does anyone here own Djibouti or Eritrea? I'm thinking about an annexation, while simmultaneously dropping the Somalian/Yemen affair. And its true I wouldn't be charging in the canal I would have been charging for access/ leaving the canal in the south.
Honako
11-06-2007, 17:55
Well, you didn't actually send me a message, so I didn't know what to reply to.

And the cities are gonna be like Mogadishu. :) But if you bomb em, that takes care of the problem. Also, civ soldiers are less likely to keep fighting if everyone keeps dying...

You can't make all the cities like Mogadishu overnight. And trust me, a lot will happen overnight. Oh, I request that no more posts are made in that thread until mine, cheers. :p
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 17:59
You can't make all the cities like Mogadishu overnight. And trust me, a lot will happen overnight. Oh, I request that no more posts are made in that thread until mine, cheers. :p

The only city I expect to be that strong is Ulaanbaatar, because it's the capital. The other cities will attempt resitance but will surrender quickly. And I second that, unless it is Marx or Kashjim (srry about spelling) replying to my message.
Animarnia
11-06-2007, 18:16
I have refused - I meant to say "won't" not "want" - however, is there actaully any international waters in the Suez Canal...? I probs should of done my research.

anyone know how wide that bottleneck is in Miles?
Droskianishk
11-06-2007, 18:21
anyone know how wide that bottleneck is in Miles?

My guess is that it is more than the 40 nm that I control.
Honako
11-06-2007, 18:32
Kamp, I'm unsure where the Mongol military is stationed - would you object to some of it being in the border cities/towns and maybe an important airbase their too? (Your countries air defences are terrible, but I'd prefer to get rid of them)

Also, Droskianishk, even though the country you invaded is small, could you not at least RP the invasion and allow some resistance. You can't simply say "It's mine" surely.
Kampfers
11-06-2007, 18:36
Kamp, I'm unsure where the Mongol military is stationed - would you object to some of it being in the border cities/towns and maybe an important airbase their too? (Your countries air defences are terrible, but I'd prefer to get rid of them)

Also, Droskianishk, even though the country you invaded is small, could you not at least RP the invasion and allow some resistance. You can't simply say "It's mine" surely.

I have 8 planes, and they are all grounded. Don't worry about airbases. But yes, you can attack border towns with my guys there.

Yes Drosk, you have to have someone RP the other nation.
Droskianishk
11-06-2007, 18:42
Thats why I left it open ended. If you read the soldier RP its simply saying that the invasion has begun, I haven't thrown any victory parades or had them rolling through Djibouti or anything like that. If anyone wants to RP Djibouti resistance their more than welcome too.
Carloginias
11-06-2007, 20:09
Hon, AB, and Bulgia you all have TGs.
Animarnia
11-06-2007, 21:00
Hey AB could you RP the Native forces on Garcia? My Seal teams arrived.
Amazonian Beasts
11-06-2007, 21:01
Replied, Carlo and Marx.

Gonna go get back to the Mongolian thread...though like others, I'm simply refusing to pay the tax and backing up the move with threats from my navy (I made it formidable for a reason...)

Search for "EFJ Vice Mod" to get that poll. I'll bump it.

Can someone start a thread consolidation thread? I don't know half the threads that have started, so if someone could do that and update it, that'd be cool.
Amazonian Beasts
11-06-2007, 21:02
Hey AB could you RP the Native forces on Garcia? My Seal teams arrived.

Like the post I just posted, what's the thread called so I can find it?
Animarnia
11-06-2007, 21:13
Like the post I just posted, what's the thread called so I can find it?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12754255

here you go :)

and I think Futaris is going to update the IC post today sometime if he gets back
Granate
11-06-2007, 21:50
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529657

Just pointing out to AB that Dijibouti is being invaded and I am deploying my navy to region to help protect it.
Amazonian Beasts
11-06-2007, 21:55
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529657

Just pointing out to AB that Dijibouti is being invaded and I am deploying my navy to region to help protect it.

Ooh, hold out long enough and I'll have a naval group there to assist. Don't want to see my barganing chip dead.
Granate
11-06-2007, 21:57
Ooh, hold out long enough and I'll have a naval group there to assist. Don't want to see my barganing chip dead.

I don't plan on fighting anyone. I'm just there to tell Dos that if he invades further expect some Tomohawk Missles down his throat. Waldenburg has also deployed a task force there in support of Dos, should be quite fun seeing who'll blink first.
Amazonian Beasts
11-06-2007, 21:59
I don't plan on fighting anyone. I'm just there to tell Dos that if he invades further expect some Tomohawk Missles down his throat. Waldenburg has also deployed a task force there in support of Dos, should be quite fun seeing who'll blink first.

Indeed. However, I'd prefer to have Djibouti alive, so if Drosk goes in there to invade, I'll be shooting from my aircraft to try and stop it. If Waldenburg wants, I can pop some Harpoons at his naval force for kicks and shits.
Granate
11-06-2007, 22:01
Indeed. However, I'd prefer to have Djibouti alive, so if Drosk goes in there to invade, I'll be shooting from my aircraft to try and stop it. If Waldenburg wants, I can pop some Harpoons at his naval force for kicks and shits.

Exactly. While I may have only a small task force there, it's still very deadly, considering it could only take a few of my ships to unload on his to pretty much knock it out. God I love VLS.
Amazonian Beasts
11-06-2007, 22:03
Exactly. While I may have only a small task force there, it's still very deadly, considering it could only take a few of my ships to unload on his to pretty much knock it out. God I love VLS.

I'll send a CVBG and LHD group...should be enough combined with your forces in the region, and it won't stress my naval forces.
Granate
11-06-2007, 22:05
I'll send a CVBG and LHD group...should be enough combined with your forces in the region, and it won't stress my naval forces.

Fine by me, any additional help, outside of Animarnia, would be very welcome.
Corbournne
11-06-2007, 22:10
Need a Liechtensteinian response there...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529231&highlight=expanding+realm
Amazonian Beasts
11-06-2007, 22:11
Fine by me, any additional help, outside of Animarnia, would be very welcome.

Sounds good. That should be all we'll need if Waldenburg decides to up and fight.

Corbournne: on it. Please update IC thread when you're avaliable, Futuris.
Animarnia
11-06-2007, 22:13
Fine by me, any additional help, outside of Animarnia, would be very welcome.

well the LeFaye and the DeLean CVBG's arn't that far away if it gets hot too so thats another two strike groups if required and we're escorting all shipping with destroyers or Subs so try not to shoot my escort ships AB :P
Granate
11-06-2007, 22:14
well the LeFaye and the DeLean CVBG's arn't that far away if it gets hot too so thats another two strike groups if required and we're escorting all shipping with destroyers or Subs so try not to shoot my escort ships AB :P

Unless Waldenburg is in that group I doubt he will.
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 00:08
Need responses in the Balkans to Shakals invasion.

Also, I want to delay the Mongol thread and tell Marx and Khasjim that they need to respond to it. I will begin a response, but I need to know what they will say.
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 00:09
Also, if a WW breaks out expect me to stay neutral. Unless someone makes me a promising offer (hint)
Futuris
12-06-2007, 00:47
Back in town...sorry, I was supposed to be in yesterday, but my parents are like "How about we have fun out of town even more, and have (Futuris) take care of the kids? That sounds awesome!" So, yeah...

I'll post in the Vice Mod poll, if someone can give me a link, and I'm still doing the RP for Balkans - I was gone for the weekend, and still have to catch up on a few more pages, I'll be back shortly after dinner. ;)
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 00:51
Back in town...sorry, I was supposed to be in yesterday, but my parents are like "How about we have fun out of town even more, and have (Futuris) take care of the kids? That sounds awesome!" So, yeah...

I'll post in the Vice Mod poll, if someone can give me a link, and I'm still doing the RP for Balkans - I was gone for the weekend, and still have to catch up on a few more pages, I'll be back shortly after dinner. ;)

cool, get to it whenever you can. (Don't forget about the histories as well ;))

A side note, does anyone else do the Popular Science Predictions Exchange? I'm 16th currently. (18th according to the official standings)
Futuris
12-06-2007, 01:19
cool, get to it whenever you can. (Don't forget about the histories as well ;))

A side note, does anyone else do the Popular Science Predictions Exchange? I'm 16th currently. (18th according to the official standings)

Wow, that's actually pretty cool. I think I'll join. So are you cailensniker or jwb1? (16th or 18th)?
Futuris
12-06-2007, 01:36
I'll update the IC thread shortly here...next time, please post the IC thread links in the actual IC thread...that way, I don't have to look through pages of OOC stuff here and post it there. That would be great. ;)

I see that a lot of people are following the path I took in ESS. Well, now I get to be the big nation that threatens everyone else because I can! :p

Well, almost everyone else.
Futuris
12-06-2007, 02:04
Updated the IC thread.

EDIT: Granate, could you put the Azores under my color too? They are a part of Spain, and they are a key to my naval power in the Atlantic. Indeed, they are a rival to naval superiority based off of St. Helens and Diego Garcia, lol :p
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 02:24
Wow, that's actually pretty cool. I think I'll join. So are you cailensniker or jwb1? (16th or 18th)?

imdmill

im worth $290,175 currently. My portfoilio says: Overall Rank: 14 of 635 (percentile: 98%). Leaderboard says: 16 imdmill 11.31 289400
Granate
12-06-2007, 02:48
Updated the IC thread.

EDIT: Granate, could you put the Azores under my color too? They are a part of Spain, and they are a key to my naval power in the Atlantic. Indeed, they are a rival to naval superiority based off of St. Helens and Diego Garcia, lol :p

The Azores are Portuguesse. You mean the Canary Islands. I beleive AB wanted claims like this to be used like the Falkland Islands. Just because you claim Great Britain does not mean you get the Falkland Islands or St. Helena or any of Britains holdings around the world. The same with America and Guam or Guantanamo.

If AB oks it I will, otherwise it's unclaimed territory.
Corbournne
12-06-2007, 02:58
The Azores are Portuguesse. You mean the Canary Islands. I beleive AB wanted claims like this to be used like the Falkland Islands. Just because you claim Great Britain does not mean you get the Falkland Islands or St. Helena or any of Britains holdings around the world. The same with America and Guam or Guantanamo.

If AB oks it I will, otherwise it's unclaimed territory.

Yeah, he allowed me to include Corsica because it's considered a French homeland department, but not French Guiana because its overseas.

Not sure about the Canaries...

But if he does allow them, then I'd like the Azores.
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 03:30
I'm going to be starting a thread where I invade some islands in the Gulf of Ambrose-Douglas (RL Gulf of Mexico) area... would anyone like to play any local resistance, or do we think the islands are too small to put up any resistance?

EDIT: Everyone's requests have been responded to in the Karlonian Canal thread
Granate
12-06-2007, 03:46
I'm going to be starting a thread where I invade some islands in the Gulf of Ambrose-Douglas (RL Gulf of Mexico) area... would anyone like to play any local resistance, or do we think the islands are too small to put up any resistance?

EDIT: Everyone's requests have been responded to in the Karlonian Canal thread

You'd be surprised how much resistance they will give. Look at the US Invasion of Greneda for expample.
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 03:50
You'd be surprised how much resistance they will give. Look at the US Invasion of Greneda for expample.

Which is why I asked if anyone would like to play any resistance movements on any of the islands.
Granate
12-06-2007, 03:56
Which is why I asked if anyone would like to play any resistance movements on any of the islands.

Probably not me, because I'd get involved with my own nation.
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 04:05
I'm going to be starting a thread where I invade some islands in the Gulf of Ambrose-Douglas (RL Gulf of Mexico) area... would anyone like to play any local resistance, or do we think the islands are too small to put up any resistance?

EDIT: Everyone's requests have been responded to in the Karlonian Canal thread

not me. I'm busy with my own nation and Mongolia.
Futuris
12-06-2007, 04:20
The Azores are Portuguesse. You mean the Canary Islands. I beleive AB wanted claims like this to be used like the Falkland Islands. Just because you claim Great Britain does not mean you get the Falkland Islands or St. Helena or any of Britains holdings around the world. The same with America and Guam or Guantanamo.

If AB oks it I will, otherwise it's unclaimed territory.

I'll wait for AB - if it's not, which it probably isn't, I better start my navy up...

I'm going to be starting a thread where I invade some islands in the Gulf of Ambrose-Douglas (RL Gulf of Mexico) area... would anyone like to play any local resistance, or do we think the islands are too small to put up any resistance?

EDIT: Everyone's requests have been responded to in the Karlonian Canal thread

I could RP the resistance. But what islands are you attacking exactly?
Droskianishk
12-06-2007, 06:12
Can anyone rp the defense for Djibouti?
Granate
12-06-2007, 06:13
Can anyone rp the defense for Djibouti?

Don't expect an answer until tommorow, most people are asleep by now.
Honako
12-06-2007, 15:54
TG'd AB, and replied to all messages sent to me.
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 15:54
Someone really needs to respond as the Balkans.

And Marx and Khasjim need to respond to a message by the mongols
Droskianishk
12-06-2007, 15:59
Kampf do you want me to rp your Balkan resistance?

I also still need someone for Djibouti...
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 16:01
Kampf do you want me to rp your Balkan resistance?

I also still need someone for Djibouti...

sure, but its not resistance against me, its resitance against Shakal.
Corbournne
12-06-2007, 17:24
sure, but its not resistance against me, its resitance against Shakal.

And I need a response from the Slovenians...

And Kampf, judging from your mobilization, is it safe to say you are now at war with Shakal?
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 17:26
And Kampf, judging from your mobilization, is it safe to say you are now at war with Shakal?

:D
Corbournne
12-06-2007, 17:32
:D

How did I guess? ;)
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 17:37
How did I guess? ;)

Yeah, Greece is mine. Then I might leave her alone. But i might want Yugoslavia too. Hmmm, choices choices. lol. Time to see if AB will respond like he said he would. Although technically since I have no casualties as of yet, I can't say I have been "interefered with"...
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 17:48
I'll wait for AB - if it's not, which it probably isn't, I better start my navy up...



I could RP the resistance. But what islands are you attacking exactly?

Well, first is going to be Jamaica, Honduras, and Puerto Rico... the tiny islands will follow after that.
Granate
12-06-2007, 18:53
Well, first is going to be Jamaica, Honduras, and Puerto Rico... the tiny islands will follow after that.

Honduras was being invaded by Caliz. Jamaica and Puerto Rico might be a problem for you, they aren't Greneda and actually have pretty good militaries. Jamaica's apart of the Commonwealth of Nations and so has acess to some pretty modern British Equipment, while Puerto Rico is an American Commonwealth so that means American Equipment will be used. They actually have a few F-16s in real life.
Calizorinstan
12-06-2007, 18:55
It still is, I've got a whole load of troop's securing Honduras now
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 18:58
Honduras was being invaded by Caliz. Jamaica and Puerto Rico might be a problem for you, they aren't Greneda and actually have pretty good militaries. Jamaica's apart of the Commonwealth of Nations and so has acess to some pretty modern British Equipment, while Puerto Rico is an American Commonwealth so that means American Equipment will be used. They actually have a few F-16s in real life.

Can you direct me to where Caliz is invading Honduras? I must have missed that.

Also, I'm aware of Puerto Rico and Jamaica's military ability. There might be problems, but, unfortunately, negotiations with an NPC for a surrender early is kind of difficult since they are, you know, an NPC.
Calizorinstan
12-06-2007, 18:58
Hey, Amb, maybe you and I could jointly invade Honduras, you take half, and I take half, what do you say, it would make the job for us both easier?
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 18:59
It still is, I've got a whole load of troop's securing Honduras now

Must have missed it buddy... sorry. Glad someone told me before I went barreling in there as well.
Calizorinstan
12-06-2007, 18:59
Eh, see my post above of splitting it between us Amb, if it's us two, it'll make it much easier.
Amazonian Beasts
12-06-2007, 19:03
Caliz still is invading it, but he's not close to securing it yet (you've only hit the border so far, Caliz...)

I lost that thread and Guyana...to the midsts of the forum

Kamp, I can RP the Balkans, but then there's no chance of me supporting you. Pick your choice there.

Amb: I can do the Carribbean if you need.


Of course, once we get a Vice Mod, he/she can start doing these things too...
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 19:04
Eh, see my post above of splitting it between us Amb, if it's us two, it'll make it much easier.

Northwest/southeast prong? Works for me. Got an IC thread? We'll coordinate the assault as soon as we find someone to play the resistance.
Calizorinstan
12-06-2007, 19:04
Yeah, you just search for "Retaking Land's long lost" or something similar, I'll need help at the border though Amb, I've just crossed into Honduras...
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 19:06
Caliz still is invading it, but he's not close to securing it yet (you've only hit the border so far, Caliz...)

I lost that thread and Guyana...to the midsts of the forum

Kamp, I can RP the Balkans, but then there's no chance of me supporting you. Pick your choice there.

Amb: I can do the Carribbean if you need.


Of course, once we get a Vice Mod, he/she can start doing these things too...

Fut said he would, but if you want to do either Puerto Rico or Jamaica, and he can do the other, that's fine. Those are the two I'm expecting the most trouble with, to be honest.
Granate
12-06-2007, 19:21
Ok people, I've about had it. I am wondering how people can say they have Iowa Battleships when they are about the most expensive ships ever. My nation can't afford them, and I doubt almost any nation on EFJ could.
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 19:24
Ok people, I've about had it. I am wondering how people can say they have Iowa Battleships when they are about the most expensive ships ever. My nation can't afford them, and I doubt almost any nation on EFJ could.

Maybe if you'd actually read, you'd see they aren't there. Wait, reading, what? No, you can't do that can you? You just have to be a royal prick to everyone.

Seriously, stop being such a pain in the ass, and maybe people will actually listen to you once in a while.
Granate
12-06-2007, 19:26
Maybe if you'd actually read, you'd see they aren't there. Wait, reading, what? No, you can't do that can you? You just have to be a royal prick to everyone.

Seriously, stop being such a pain in the ass, and maybe people will actually listen to you once in a while.

Actually that wasn't directed at you. It was actually Drosk who was the intended target.

And we've had this discussion already, I like being a pompous ass. Deal with it.
Droskianishk
12-06-2007, 19:33
Actually that wasn't directed at you. It was actually Drosk who was the intended target.

And we've had this discussion already, I like being a pompous ass. Deal with it.

I was actually looking for any kind of help with the naval stuff I'm just about to change that portion I was looking for any kind of small craft.
Amazonian Beasts
12-06-2007, 19:33
I don't have an issue with Iowas, 'cause they're notoriously easy to kill. Not my fault people like 'em. Go ahead and use 'em-their missile coverage is virtually nil. The big guns don't have the range to try and counterattack against SSM and ASM attacks-battleships are wasted propositions in the modern era.
Amazonian Beasts
12-06-2007, 19:34
I was actually looking for any kind of help with the naval stuff I'm just about to change that portion I was looking for any kind of small craft.

Try for frigates, PCFGs, and destroyers. That's the majority of many navies.
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 19:36
I don't have an issue with Iowas, 'cause they're notoriously easy to kill. Not my fault people like 'em. Go ahead and use 'em-their missile coverage is virtually nil. The big guns don't have the range to try and counterattack against SSM and ASM attacks-battleships are wasted propositions in the modern era.

AB, did you see my post about Jamaica or Puerto Rico? just wondering which one you wanted/if you wanted to get started.

Also, Caliz... I couldn't find your thread you were talking about. The only one I found was between AB and Candistan. Nothing else... can you send me the link?
Amazonian Beasts
12-06-2007, 19:39
AB, did you see my post about Jamaica or Puerto Rico? just wondering which one you wanted/if you wanted to get started.

Also, Caliz... I couldn't find your thread you were talking about. The only one I found was between AB and Candistan. Nothing else... can you send me the link?

Yeah, I'll grab Puerto Rico (had fun raiding that one in ESS). Futuris can take the other two islands.
Calizorinstan
12-06-2007, 19:39
OOC: I think I have to run, I'll find it for you, and I will explain later.
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 19:41
Want me to start the IC thread, AB?
Granate
12-06-2007, 19:43
Want me to start the IC thread, AB?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529166
Honako
12-06-2007, 19:46
Meeting of Leaders thread posted in.
Amazonian Beasts
12-06-2007, 19:50
Meeting of Leaders thread posted in.

As did I.
Calizorinstan
12-06-2007, 19:53
As did I also.
Honako
12-06-2007, 19:54
As did I.

Oh crap - I must of read it wrong, though it did kinda sound like you were talking about me.
Amazonian Beasts
12-06-2007, 20:00
Oh crap - I must of read it wrong, though it did kinda sound like you were talking about me.

Yeah, but that's being evil for ya'. Can't be too specific (especially because the "big events" really can't get out for these two).
Ambrose-Douglas
12-06-2007, 20:07
Thread started AB.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12762037#post12762037
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 20:20
Still waiting for a post in Garcia if anyone wants to pick it up. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12754255

Shouldn't take too long I imagine; I don't think they have much in the way of defence.
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 20:49
Kamp, I can RP the Balkans, but then there's no chance of me supporting you. Pick your choice there.

@AB- No, you already have a lot to deal with. Plus, I want your help.

@Shakal- There is no fucking way all those men are there and that they survived. A town the size of the two I chose would be completely leveled after the artillery barrage, not to mention the bombs and the missiles.

@Marx- Still waiting for a response in this thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529532
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 20:50
Still waiting for a post in Garcia if anyone wants to pick it up. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12754255

Shouldn't take too long I imagine; I don't think they have much in the way of defence.

I'll try my hand at it...
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 21:05
I'll try my hand at it...

Go for it :) my men are 8 Navy SEALS; I can't find any info on what they have there but...it can't be much; basically they're going to try to neutralise the run ways and take out the fuel tanks to stop any fighters taking off before the main force moves in. we want to try and preserve as much of the base as we can.
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 21:14
Go for it :) my men are 8 Navy SEALS; I can't find any info on what they have there but...it can't be much; basically they're going to try to neutralise the run ways and take out the fuel tanks to stop any fighters taking off before the main force moves in. we want to try and preserve as much of the base as we can.

I left certain openings for you. Lets see how many you take advantage of.
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 21:43
I left certain openings for you. Lets see how many you take advantage of.

Done; lets see how that goes...
Futuris
12-06-2007, 21:56
I'm currently at camp, so I will be unable for the next hour or so to do anything - but after that, I will RP the Balkans, RP the Caribbean (AB said he's doing Peurto Rico, so I'll do the others...) do the history, try to unsuccessfully finish my military factbook (in other words, not finish...) and if I somehow manage to do all that, and my parents still haven't told me to get off the computer, I'll start a thread about a few naval incursions of my own.

And AB - can I vote in the mod poll, or can I not? Because until that's answered, it's still a tie....
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 22:02
I left certain openings for you. Lets see how many you take advantage of.

Done; lets see how that goes...

Lets see, now, how many of the holes did he use. Lets start by listing the holes, and if he took advantage.

1. Guard Asleep - Yes
2. Soldiers Asleep - No.
3. 1 alarm switch - Up for grabs
4. Exploding the fuel cans like he wanted to would also kill pilots - No

So far only 1 for 4. Shame, Shame.
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 22:06
Lets see, now, how many of the holes did he use. Lets start by listing the holes, and if he took advantage.

1. Guard Asleep - Yes
2. Soldiers Asleep - No.
3. 1 alarm switch - Up for grabs
4. Exploding the fuel cans like he wanted to would also kill pilots - No

So far only 1 for 4. Shame, Shame.

Well I was hoping to take the Cook down silently...is he a large guy?? then lob some AP grenades into the barracks to take care of the sleeping soldiers; how did a silent shot wake them up?
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 22:10
Well I was hoping to take the Cook down silently...is he a large guy?? then lob some AP grenades into the barracks to take care of the sleeping soldiers; how did a silent shot wake them up?

Do you want me to edit my post to be more detailed? The cook is fat (all the best are) and woul;d have been holding some pots/pans when he was shot. When he fell, expect a large racket on the cement floors. My course of action would have been to go to the barracks, kill them, have sniper kill the cook when he runs for alarm, and have someone blow up the fuel tanks at the same time, and mop up any survivors.
Incursus
12-06-2007, 22:13
Quick, have lightning hit the fuel tanks!
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 22:13
Do you want me to edit my post to be more detailed? The cook is fat (all the best are) and woul;d have been holding some pots/pans when he was shot. When he fell, expect a large racket on the cement floors. My course of action would have been to go to the barracks, kill them, have sniper kill the cook when he runs for alarm, and have someone blow up the fuel tanks at the same time, and mop up any survivors.

I was thinking more along the lines of Splinter Cell when you take out the cook in the chinese kitchen; back to the door walking over to the oven to check something but not carrying anything; burst in and bang; he drops but dosn't make too much noise.

Though we have AP Claymores on Laser trip wires set up near the doors for the pilots so if they come out of there barracks to get to the hangers there dead.
Armorfx
12-06-2007, 22:15
Quick, have lightning hit the fuel tanks!
That's the nation I'll be rp'ing as.
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 22:17
I was thinking more along the lines of Splinter Cell when you take out the cook in the chinese kitchen; back to the door walking over to the oven to check something but not carrying anything; burst in and bang; he drops but dosn't make too much noise.

Though we have AP Claymores on Laser trip wires set up near the doors for the pilots so if they come out of there barracks to get to the hangers there dead.

Sorry to ruin your plan. Have fun killing the ill trained and out of practice soldiers (90% of them are probably drunk anyways.)
Granate
12-06-2007, 22:22
Animarnia is sure having an easier time with Diego Garcia then I did.
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 22:23
Sorry to ruin your plan. Have fun killing the ill trained and out of practice soldiers (90% of them are probably drunk anyways.)

Basically sniped the guy trying to raise the alarm and we've doubled back on ourselves and lobbed some grenades into the barracks from the other exit while your few guys investigate the cook; now we're waiting for anyone that comes for us
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 22:24
Animarnia is sure having an easier time with Diego Garcia then I did.

I expect Accension and Helena to be harder to be honest.
Granate
12-06-2007, 22:26
I expect Accension and Helena to be harder to be honest.

St. Helena will likely surrender. It's not a military outpost.
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 22:30
St. Helena will likely surrender. It's not a military outpost.

Which reminds me..I need to formally aproach your government about Accension
Amazonian Beasts
12-06-2007, 23:39
I'm currently at camp, so I will be unable for the next hour or so to do anything - but after that, I will RP the Balkans, RP the Caribbean (AB said he's doing Peurto Rico, so I'll do the others...) do the history, try to unsuccessfully finish my military factbook (in other words, not finish...) and if I somehow manage to do all that, and my parents still haven't told me to get off the computer, I'll start a thread about a few naval incursions of my own.

And AB - can I vote in the mod poll, or can I not? Because until that's answered, it's still a tie....

You can vote, yeah.
Candistan
12-06-2007, 23:47
Okay, well as you may have noticed, I haven't been on much, and this is due to me training to be a lifeguard (w00t). So, for the next three days I will not be able to go on, just warning you. If someone could TG me what has happened then I would be greatful. Danke.
Kampfers
12-06-2007, 23:50
@AB- No, you already have a lot to deal with. Plus, I want your help.

@Shakal- There is no fucking way all those men are there and that they survived. A town the size of the two I chose would be completely leveled after the artillery barrage, not to mention the bombs and the missiles.

@Marx- Still waiting for a response in this thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529532

bump for all to see.
Honako
13-06-2007, 00:10
You need to respond in that thread too Kamp. :)
Lachenburg
13-06-2007, 00:48
If at all possible, I'd like to claim Barbados, Grenada, and St. Vincent, please. The claim can be referred to as the Commonwealth of Lachenburg. Thanks.
Amazonian Beasts
13-06-2007, 00:53
If at all possible, I'd like to claim Barbados, Grenada, and St. Vincent, please. The claim can be referred to as the Commonwealth of Lachenburg. Thanks.

If you wait 'til the 15th, you can actually grab some good stuff that we actually need to be filled. Wanna try waiting, or wanna proceed with this claim?

You could grab the Argentina claim if SSU doesn't show, or, similarily, the Indonesia one, the Egypt one, or the Nigeria one. They're all getting activity-voided.
Granate
13-06-2007, 02:03
This is gonna be my slightly/heavily modified Ticonderoga Class cruiser. It's just an increased length and weight so I can have more firepower.


Name: RGS Nibenay
Class: Resititute Class Cruiser
Class type: Guided missile cruiser
Displacement: 11,500 tons
Length: 597 feet (173 m)
Beam: 55 feet (17 m)
Draught: 31 feet (9.5 m)
Propulsion and power: 4 × General Electric LM2500 gas turbines, 2 shafts, 80,000 shp
Speed: 28+ knots (exact maximum classified)
Range: 5,800 miles
Complement: 375
Armament:
Variable number RGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles
10 RGM-84 Harpoon anti-ship missiles
148 vertical-launch SM-2 Standard surface-to-air (with anti-ship mode) and RUM-119 VL-ASROC anti-submarine missiles
2 127mm L/54 dual purpose guns
2 20mm L/50 gatling close-in weapons systems
6 12.7x99mm or 7.62x51mm machine guns
6 torpedo tubes
Armour: limited Kevlar splinter protection in critical areas
Aircraft complement: 2 helicopters
Futuris
13-06-2007, 04:38
Hey Amb, what's the thread for the Jamaica invasion? I'm RPing Jamaica after all...
Ambrose-Douglas
13-06-2007, 04:41
Hey Amb, what's the thread for the Jamaica invasion? I'm RPing Jamaica after all...

Haven't started it yet... I was waiting for you, lol. Want me to start it now?
Kampfers
13-06-2007, 05:02
You need to respond in that thread too Kamp. :)

I need to know his response before I finish mine.
Shakal
13-06-2007, 05:44
I need to know his response before I finish mine.

There is also now way 900 000 men could be attacking me. We use RL pop and GDP remember. Considering you could have a pop of about 125 million. That would give you 6.25 million MAX army size including airforce, navy and all your logistics.
Carloginias
13-06-2007, 05:50
Romania- about 22
Hungary- about 10
Czech - About 10
Slovakia- About 5
Moldova- about 4
Macedonia- about 2
Bulgaria- about 10

Total- 63mill

Cour's

Fr- Maybe 60. Not including French Guinea
Swiss- 8
Belgium- 10
Austria-8
Portugal- 10

Total- 96

--

No where near 125 for either of them.
Futuris
13-06-2007, 14:02
There is also now way 900 000 men could be attacking me. We use RL pop and GDP remember. Considering you could have a pop of about 125 million. That would give you 6.25 million MAX army size including airforce, navy and all your logistics.

Well, I have an active/reserve ratio of 1:9. Some people use a smaller ratio for more active soldiers and less logistics. This of course provides for an overall weaker army - but since there are more of them, it balances out.

It also provides the chance for several strategic maneuvers that could cripple Kamp. Since his logistics aren't all that good...
Carloginias
13-06-2007, 14:11
Not to mention they came right to YOU. You may not realise it, but that is very important. See if Waldenburg will help you too, Shakal.
Amazonian Beasts
13-06-2007, 14:55
Well, I have an active/reserve ratio of 1:9. Some people use a smaller ratio for more active soldiers and less logistics. This of course provides for an overall weaker army - but since there are more of them, it balances out.

It also provides the chance for several strategic maneuvers that could cripple Kamp. Since his logistics aren't all that good...

Shakal: if he's using 900,000 men to attack you, his country's wide open and pretty much undefended to attack. You should strike his homeland instead.
Carloginias
13-06-2007, 16:20
Bulgia, TGed.
Shakal
13-06-2007, 16:52
Shakal: if he's using 900,000 men to attack you, his country's wide open and pretty much undefended to attack. You should strike his homeland instead.

Thats what i did. check the thread :p
Carloginias
13-06-2007, 17:09
Can I have a link? I can't seem to find it.
Carloginias
13-06-2007, 17:14
Oh and, I replied Bulgia.
Carloginias
13-06-2007, 17:17
Yeah. I will post up my factbook, more for general information and then respond to any diplomatic invites on the 15th. (Watch Tyr come back, lol)
Honako
13-06-2007, 17:18
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529197&page=3

TG'd Kamp, and did you get my reply Carloginias?

Also, soon I'll be posting in the Meeting of Leaders thread and Marx's factbook.
Bulgia
13-06-2007, 17:28
Replied, too, but I think I'm starting to ramble because I've been staring at this screen for far too long!
Carloginias
13-06-2007, 17:37
Ha ha. I replied again btw.
Granate
13-06-2007, 19:13
Granate, what relations does your nation desire with mine? You say I get the jist of it, however I'm not sure I do. ;)

Friendship? Alliance? The sky's the limit.
Honako
13-06-2007, 19:14
Granate, what relations does your nation desire with mine? You say I get the jist of it, however I'm not sure I do. ;)
Honako
13-06-2007, 19:38
Friendship? Alliance? The sky's the limit.

Ah, great. I'm not looking so much for resources as I am for good friendships - my positoning near to possible hostile nations is worrying, so your willingness is good sign - though of course your offering of resources will likely be accepted as part of economic deals to further strengthen our ties. My nation is looking for an alliance with all nations who are present at the meeting, some will commit there - others, like say AB, will do it over time.
Amazonian Beasts
13-06-2007, 19:44
Ah, great. I'm not looking so much for resources as I am for good friendships - my positoning near to possible hostile nations is worrying, so your willingness is good sign - though of course your offering of resources will likely be accepted as part of economic deals to further strengthen our ties. My nation is looking for an alliance with all nations who are present at the meeting, some will commit there - others, like say AB, will do it over time.

My nation's more than willing to go friendly with yours-the problem is, the Imperialists want to eradicate the Federal power first, then judge your friendship again once that's said and done (I'll be making that thread sometime here).
Kampfers
13-06-2007, 20:27
3 things Shakal.

1st, since you ceased aggressions against Albania and the like, My Fuhrer is happy now. That is what his goal has been. So he will likely contact you.

2nd, I understand your concerns about my army. Thats why i made it so big, so that it would take you out of Albania and the like.

Finally, There is no way that many people survived in a town that harbors 5,000 or less people from my bombs and bombardment.
Corbournne
13-06-2007, 20:39
Romania- about 22
Hungary- about 10
Czech - About 10
Slovakia- About 5
Moldova- about 4
Macedonia- about 2
Bulgaria- about 10

Total- 63mill

Cour's

Fr- Maybe 60. Not including French Guinea
Swiss- 8
Belgium- 10
Austria-8
Portugal- 10

Total- 96

--

No where near 125 for either of them.


I have the Netherlands, not Belgium, puts my population at a little over 100 million.

By the way, Shakal, are your numbers just for Turin, or do they include the Austrian Offense?

And, AB, when you can... http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529231
Honako
13-06-2007, 21:02
I Tg'd you Kamp.
Ambrose-Douglas
13-06-2007, 21:14
Everyone, I just want to get something completly straight right now...

This "Pravus Ingruo" who posted in the Drosk/Djibouti thread IS NOT ME. PERIOD. That post was done in the wee early moring hours my time. I was passed out asleep by then. So with everyone saying "you did this" and "you did that" when responding to his posts but talking about my earlier ones, I don't have puppets. I don't believe in them, I don't play them, they're too much hassle. So please, let's stop with that.

Finally, I'm tired of debating over the Djibouti military situation. No one says anything about the submarines, and suddenly they do. No one says anything about the 70,000 troops, and suddenly they do. Either state it at the god damn beginning or keep your mouth shut for the rest of the RP. This is THE LAST TIME I am changing Djibouti's military. I'm doing it in this thread so the main thread doesn't get more cluttered than it already is.

[6] F-4 Phantom fighters (The F-4 II costs $2.4 million unit cost, the older F-4 would have been less)
[25] M60 Patton tanks
[5] M109 Self-propelled howitzers
[6] Pegasus-class fast attack/patrol boats
50,000 man standing army armed with Ak-47s

Does this sound reasonable to all?
Kampfers
13-06-2007, 21:15
I Tg'd you Kamp.

The answer is Yes, I will.
Granate
13-06-2007, 21:15
Everyone, I just want to get something completly straight right now...

This "Pravus Ingruo" who posted in the Drosk/Djibouti thread IS NOT ME. PERIOD. That post was done in the wee early moring hours my time. I was passed out asleep by then. So with everyone saying "you did this" and "you did that" when responding to his posts but talking about my earlier ones, I don't have puppets. I don't believe in them, I don't play them, they're too much hassle. So please, let's stop with that.

Finally, I'm tired of debating over the Djibouti military situation. No one says anything about the submarines, and suddenly they do. No one says anything about the 70,000 troops, and suddenly they do. Either state it at the god damn beginning or keep your mouth shut for the rest of the RP. This is THE LAST TIME I am changing Djibouti's military. I'm doing it in this thread so the main thread doesn't get more cluttered than it already is.

[6] F-4 Phantom fighters (The F-4 II costs $2.4 million unit cost, the older F-4 would have been less)
[25] M60 Patton tanks
[5] M109 Self-propelled howitzers
[6] Pegasus-class fast attack/patrol boats
50,000 man standing army armed with Ak-47s

Does this sound reasonable to all?

Fine by me.
Shakal
13-06-2007, 21:25
3 things Shakal.

1st, since you ceased aggressions against Albania and the like, My Fuhrer is happy now. That is what his goal has been. So he will likely contact you.

2nd, I understand your concerns about my army. Thats why i made it so big, so that it would take you out of Albania and the like.

Finally, There is no way that many people survived in a town that harbors 5,000 or less people from my bombs and bombardment.

I know about the casualties, my numbers are what remained in the area, as in close enough that they will be part of the battle.

@Corbrunne:Thats just the Troops in Turin. Ill post the Austrian attck numbers.
Ambrose-Douglas
13-06-2007, 21:26
Fine by me.

Drosk for some reason thinks Djibouti is the only port city in the country, while I still control two (Tadjoura and Obock). Would you mind contacting my general about possible supplies, since he's right that we will need them, he's just wrong that we have no way to get them with the capital gone.
Kampfers
13-06-2007, 21:30
I know about the casualties, my numbers are what remained in the area, as in close enough that they will be part of the battle.

@Corbrunne:Thats just the Troops in Turin. Ill post the Austrian attck numbers.

OK, w/e. I don;t want to fight about it. Just dont have people shooting at me from buildings. They can shoot at me from behind rubble ;)

Also, I sent you a message detailing a peace plan. A response would be fantastic!
Shakal
13-06-2007, 21:36
OK, w/e. I don;t want to fight about it. Just dont have people shooting at me from buildings. They can shoot at me from behind rubble ;)

Also, I sent you a message detailing a peace plan. A response would be fantastic!

Done
Honako
13-06-2007, 23:15
The answer is Yes, I will.

How many troops can I RP you have there?

Also, TG'd Carloginias.
Kampfers
13-06-2007, 23:28
How many troops can I RP you have there?

Also, TG'd Carloginias.

Umm, hold up on that post til I respond. I'm halfway done, but I'm swamped with RL stuff too...
Carloginias
13-06-2007, 23:38
Unfinished Factbook Forgot to add populations, but I have to go in 20-30 minutes and I want to finish this uninterupted tommorrow.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12766865#post12766865

EDIT: Replied.
Amazonian Beasts
14-06-2007, 02:01
Everyone, I just want to get something completly straight right now...

This "Pravus Ingruo" who posted in the Drosk/Djibouti thread IS NOT ME. PERIOD. That post was done in the wee early moring hours my time. I was passed out asleep by then. So with everyone saying "you did this" and "you did that" when responding to his posts but talking about my earlier ones, I don't have puppets. I don't believe in them, I don't play them, they're too much hassle. So please, let's stop with that.

Finally, I'm tired of debating over the Djibouti military situation. No one says anything about the submarines, and suddenly they do. No one says anything about the 70,000 troops, and suddenly they do. Either state it at the god damn beginning or keep your mouth shut for the rest of the RP. This is THE LAST TIME I am changing Djibouti's military. I'm doing it in this thread so the main thread doesn't get more cluttered than it already is.

[6] F-4 Phantom fighters (The F-4 II costs $2.4 million unit cost, the older F-4 would have been less)
[25] M60 Patton tanks
[5] M109 Self-propelled howitzers
[6] Pegasus-class fast attack/patrol boats
50,000 man standing army armed with Ak-47s

Does this sound reasonable to all?

Let's also get one thing straight, shall we?

First off, those are fine by me, and Granate seems to agree as well.

But secondly, actually try to look more into what goes into military and these things next time-at first, when Granate pointed out about the flaws in your plan (ie, the battleships), you took his head off. Try to accept criticism when it's actually pointing out corrections that need to be made, si?

Because if one person can do it, suddenly everyone can, and this RP, which is trying to stress limitation and realism, will soon devolve into NS levels. I don't want either a Hataria or an Eralineta to show up in here to spiral things down and out of control.
Marxikhan
14-06-2007, 02:03
cool, get to it whenever you can. (Don't forget about the histories as well ;))

A side note, does anyone else do the Popular Science Predictions Exchange? I'm 16th currently. (18th according to the official standings)
Oh and im intreested...what is that?
Someone really needs to respond as the Balkans.

And Marx and Khasjim need to respond to a message by the mongols

Yeah, nopt sure if i want to get involved in that. Don't really want a war with Honoko...this early...AB you got a tg...Oh and announcment, I'm leaving this sunday and will not be back for two weeks, so any big announcment will be made after that...
Amazonian Beasts
14-06-2007, 02:18
Responded, Marx.
Granate
14-06-2007, 02:27
Let's also get one thing straight, shall we?

First off, those are fine by me, and Granate seems to agree as well.

But secondly, actually try to look more into what goes into military and these things next time-at first, when Granate pointed out about the flaws in your plan (ie, the battleships), you took his head off. Try to accept criticism when it's actually pointing out corrections that need to be made, si?

Because if one person can do it, suddenly everyone can, and this RP, which is trying to stress limitation and realism, will soon devolve into NS levels. I don't want either a Hataria or an Eralineta to show up in here to spiral things down and out of control.

I almost had to pull rank on him.
Marxikhan
14-06-2007, 02:29
Responded, Marx.

Umm, responded again
Amazonian Beasts
14-06-2007, 02:33
Umm, responded again

Responded once more.
Ambrose-Douglas
14-06-2007, 04:26
Let's also get one thing straight, shall we?

First off, those are fine by me, and Granate seems to agree as well.

But secondly, actually try to look more into what goes into military and these things next time-at first, when Granate pointed out about the flaws in your plan (ie, the battleships), you took his head off. Try to accept criticism when it's actually pointing out corrections that need to be made, si?

Because if one person can do it, suddenly everyone can, and this RP, which is trying to stress limitation and realism, will soon devolve into NS levels. I don't want either a Hataria or an Eralineta to show up in here to spiral things down and out of control.

I don't have a problem with criticism, except when it's given in a "holier-than-thou, you're a fucking moron" type of way, which it was. I responded to your constructive criticism quite well, didn't I?

And it also was the frustration of no one saying anything until it had already started. Especially with the troop thing. We're already five or six posts in, and suddenly there's a problem with my army. Things like that are better to know beforehand. (And my numbers were based off sites that were not Wikipedia to whoever had said that.)

So, now, we have the troops numbers, equipment, and everything sorted out, so let's go and have Djibouti try and kick some ass and all be friends again, eh?
Futuris
14-06-2007, 04:34
Amb, you can make the IC thread for Jamaica...is it just me, or have I posted this already? I am having a strange feeling of Deja Vu...
Animarnia
14-06-2007, 05:59
I almost had to pull rank on him.

you owe me a message in your factbook :) unless you've posted since I last checked..
Ambrose-Douglas
14-06-2007, 06:21
Amb, you can make the IC thread for Jamaica...is it just me, or have I posted this already? I am having a strange feeling of Deja Vu...

Up and posted...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529915

Let me know if there's a problem with the military force anyone? I don't think there will be, I kept it moderately small.
Granate
14-06-2007, 06:35
you owe me a message in your factbook :) unless you've posted since I last checked..

I'll get it tommorow. I will be going to sleep as soon as I get this one download.
Animarnia
14-06-2007, 07:07
I'll get it tommorow. I will be going to sleep as soon as I get this one download.

no rush dude :) I was just alerting you it was there.
Futuris
14-06-2007, 14:21
I posted in the Jamaica thread.

@Candistan: You have been addressed in the Shakal thread and in the Jamaica thread. Well, your mercenaries, that is.
Droskianishk
14-06-2007, 15:23
Drosk for some reason thinks Djibouti is the only port city in the country, while I still control two (Tadjoura and Obock). Would you mind contacting my general about possible supplies, since he's right that we will need them, he's just wrong that we have no way to get them with the capital gone.


Yea but your going to be trying to feed/arm/cloth/ supply oil to 50,000 some odd soldiers. The other port cities in Djibouti probably (Just probably I don't know for sure) probably don't have the facilities to move that much supplies into the country since 2/3rds of the nation live in Djibouti. Your also going to need to pay for these supplies and pay your soldiers this money coming mostly through exports or sales to that 2/3rds of the nation. And your ports are going to be strained as it is importing that much stuff. You start trying to export as well and those ports will be sitting ducks for ariel bombardment or naval attack.
Granate
14-06-2007, 17:38
Yea but your going to be trying to feed/arm/cloth/ supply oil to 50,000 some odd soldiers. The other port cities in Djibouti probably (Just probably I don't know for sure) probably don't have the facilities to move that much supplies into the country since 2/3rds of the nation live in Djibouti. Your also going to need to pay for these supplies and pay your soldiers this money coming mostly through exports or sales to that 2/3rds of the nation. And your ports are going to be strained as it is importing that much stuff. You start trying to export as well and those ports will be sitting ducks for ariel bombardment or naval attack.

Well, if you decide to attack me then you'll be blown back to the Stone Age. I'll launch cruise missles at your Oil Derricks, railway staions, and other important targets. I'll make sure that you will be too poor to pay your own soldiers.

Also, feeding won't be much of an issue, considering there is no embargo on the country and they could always forage for food from the farmland. Clothing also won't be much of an issue, since they can just wear T-shirts and Jeans. It's not like they need a uniform since the Geneva Convention never happened.

Payment might be a little tough, but they can always promise to pay the soldiers after the war is over. I'll probably be willing to pay it myself. 30,000 Dollars isn't that much, considering my soldiers are worth 200,000.
Canadstein
14-06-2007, 18:57
My thread is up http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529958
Calizorinstan
14-06-2007, 19:03
I put a embassy and diplomatic relation's request in your thread Canadastein....
Animarnia
14-06-2007, 20:33
My thread is up http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529958

if you want relations with Animarnia; then just hit up my factbook.
Kampfers
14-06-2007, 21:49
AB, a TG for you. Mongol post is finished!
Canadstein
14-06-2007, 23:05
Is it too late to claim one more piece of land? Its just going to be a bunch of small islands.
Animarnia
14-06-2007, 23:21
Is it too late to claim one more piece of land? Its just going to be a bunch of small islands.

usually you'd need to take them by force like I did Garcia; but its up to AB; which Islands?
Marxikhan
15-06-2007, 01:59
Hello all....Im done wit School!
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 02:01
You've already made your factbook, so what you put is what it is-however, if they're just some small islands, you should be able to take them without much difficulty or international sentiment.
Shakal
15-06-2007, 02:02
God. Now im bored, my invasion didnt work out as planned, so my country is kinda chillin.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 02:05
God. Now im bored, my invasion didnt work out as planned, so my country is kinda chillin.

So start something spontaneous-I would, but I'm off in six days, so it'd be impractical for me to start something now. If you've wanted to do something, go for it all out. Take advantage of someone, make an invasion, launch a war, make some high-profile executions, eat your heart out. That's Earth for ya'.
Shakal
15-06-2007, 02:07
This is my first Earth. :) I was thinking something about Tunisia, but I dont think that my neighbors will appreciate it.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 02:23
This is my first Earth. :) I was thinking something about Tunisia, but I dont think that my neighbors will appreciate it.

Make a move on it. Preform an elaborate cover-up operation, and make sure you take every turn with precision. Make it good, and you'll get away with it-you simply need planning. If you make Tunisia into the villain, when in actuality you are, you won't meet international resistence. Of course, setting up the other nation as the bad one takes some "ingenuity"...
Canadstein
15-06-2007, 02:38
usually you'd need to take them by force like I did Garcia; but its up to AB; which Islands?

I was basically going to claim the Bahamas.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 02:50
I was basically going to claim the Bahamas.

Take 'em by force-it'll add some spice to the world, and add some contested-ness to the Carribbean region. More fun that way, ya? I took Hispanola in ESS, and I can say that it was certainly gratifying.
Canadstein
15-06-2007, 03:07
Come on. It will not last more than a page. I will easily invade the country.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 03:09
Come on. It will not last more than a page. I will easily invade the country.

That's what the US thought going into Iraq, as well.

Maybe it'll spiral out of control. Shakal's invasion didn't go so well. Maybe some force comes to contest it, maybe it sparks off bad tensions between you and Amb. Anything can happen-might as well go for it. So much more interesting than simply adding it to a claim.
Canadstein
15-06-2007, 03:16
Jamaica only has 1,000 troops. Come on. All I have to do is blow the shit out of their base.
Ambrose-Douglas
15-06-2007, 03:34
Jamaica only has 1,000 troops. Come on. All I have to do is blow the shit out of their base.

Try taking Jamaica, or almost any of the Carribean area for that matter, and you are going to have serious problems with the Federation... unless I have approved it beforehand of course, but Caliz and I are kind of carving out that section of the world as our own... so it could be a pretty major conflict, with him having the US and all...

EDIT: And I'm in the process of going after Jamaica right now, I already have a thread up.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 03:34
Jamaica only has 1,000 troops. Come on. All I have to do is blow the shit out of their base.

It's got plenty of civilians. A mass revolution across the country can make for some real nasty warfare. That's where the fun comes in-and then, when the message gets out, other nations join in, and EFJ gets its first World War :p
After all, that's the pinnacle of these things.
Ambrose-Douglas
15-06-2007, 03:39
It's got plenty of civilians. A mass revolution across the country can make for some real nasty warfare. That's where the fun comes in-and then, when the message gets out, other nations join in, and EFJ gets its first World War :p
After all, that's the pinnacle of these things.

What AB said... the Federation won't take kindly to something like that happening only a few hundred miles from it's capital, as it considers all of the islands under their protection, unless there are open hostilities with them. Right now we wouldn't consider Jamaica under our protection, but we sure could should you decide to attack.
Canadstein
15-06-2007, 03:44
Sorry I mean the Bahamas. I fine then, I will invade them, but can someone rp the natives?
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 03:51
Sorry I mean the Bahamas. I fine then, I will invade them, but can someone rp the natives?

Sure, can do. Just make the thread.
Ambrose-Douglas
15-06-2007, 03:55
Sorry I mean the Bahamas. I fine then, I will invade them, but can someone rp the natives?

I can just tell you right now... things are going to be extremely touch and go with my government about that... I expect with Caliz's as well... your only a hundred miles from either of us with that invasion... and where's your closest nation to the Bahamas?
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 06:25
Well, if you decide to attack me then you'll be blown back to the Stone Age. I'll launch cruise missles at your Oil Derricks, railway staions, and other important targets. I'll make sure that you will be too poor to pay your own soldiers.

Also, feeding won't be much of an issue, considering there is no embargo on the country and they could always forage for food from the farmland. Clothing also won't be much of an issue, since they can just wear T-shirts and Jeans. It's not like they need a uniform since the Geneva Convention never happened.

Payment might be a little tough, but they can always promise to pay the soldiers after the war is over. I'll probably be willing to pay it myself. 30,000 Dollars isn't that much, considering my soldiers are worth 200,000.

There won't be much to forage, and I won't have to attack you. blow up the port facilities. tshirts aren't notoriosly tear free. and there won't be a free nation. remember Wanderburg is in the region. South American nations don't tango with European nations.
Waldenburg 2
15-06-2007, 14:32
There won't be much to forage, and I won't have to attack you. blow up the port facilities. tshirts aren't notoriosly tear free. and there won't be a free nation. remember Wanderburg is in the region. South American nations don't tango with European nations.

Usually yes, but in this case AB is in the Region too so things could become a little difficult, that's quite a few cruise missiles pointed at you.
Canadstein
15-06-2007, 15:14
Here is my thread for the invasion of the Bahamas.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12772752#post12772752

Also my factbook thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529958

Can you put it on the front page?
Honako
15-06-2007, 19:48
Carloginias, if you want to start up those relations with my nation you can do so by posting in my factbook.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 19:54
Asian nations tango with the Europeans, though...let's not forget the Russo-Japanese war. My nation's gearing up for a major operation, so if anything we're at our pinnacle of military effectiveness.
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 20:00
Thats very true. Would your government be willing to let itself be bought off with promises of a base? :)
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 20:18
Thats very true. Would your government be willing to let itself be bought off with promises of a base? :)

Seeing how I just fired twenty cruise missiles at one of your cities, would your government even be willing to give me that?


And Canadstein: I'm afraid the communications department of the Bahamas is still quite operational [/end corny Star Wars rip-off]
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 20:20
If you would cease hostilitties and allow us to annex Djibouti then maybe.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 20:21
If you would cease hostilitties and allow us to annex Djibouti then maybe.

Hmm...what else does your nation have to offer? Bases are cool, but soon enough they won't even be needed overseas. My nation always looks for deals that will make it improved (ie, resources, exclusive-rights bargains, the like). Military equipment isn't really needed-the Dominion's loaded-but the islands lack somewhat in natural resources, particularly in agriculture.
Honako
15-06-2007, 20:23
I thought you were planning a power struggle in your country, how would this effect overseas Empires AB? Will it spill over and see you waging war on masses of people... ;)
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 20:33
Hmm...what else does your nation have to offer? Bases are cool, but soon enough they won't even be needed overseas. My nation always looks for deals that will make it improved (ie, resources, exclusive-rights bargains, the like). Military equipment isn't really needed-the Dominion's loaded-but the islands lack somewhat in natural resources, particularly in agriculture.


Agriculture? Droskianishk has agriculture as well as oil, construction materials, gold. etc.
Carloginias
15-06-2007, 20:35
Hon, posting in your factbook was the second thing I did when I got on the computer lol.
Carloginias
15-06-2007, 20:36
Agriculture? Droskianishk has agriculture as well as oil, construction materials, gold. etc.

Most of your area is.. desert. Syrian Desert, Somalia is essentially desert, I believe Oman is as well. (But not certain) Lebanon if you have it does.

EDIT: I am referring to your agricultural sector.
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 20:40
Most of your area is.. desert. Syrian Desert, Somalia is essentially desert, I believe Oman is as well. (But not certain) Lebanon if you have it does.


Yemen has quite a bit of agriculture in the west, Somalia some, and Djibouti does as well.But we also have coal, uranium.
Carloginias
15-06-2007, 20:41
Yemen has quite a bit of agriculture in the west, Somalia some, and Djibouti does as well.

Somalia has little. I didn't know you had Yemen, and you don't have Djibouti.. yet.

Oh, and AB can you change the Tyr thing up front to "Armed Republic of Carloginias" ?
Carloginias
15-06-2007, 20:42
Could of sworn I did. I'll go do it now.
Honako
15-06-2007, 20:43
Mongol thread posted in Kamp and AB - HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529532)

Also, Carloginias, not sure I get you - you haven't posted in my factbook to my knowledge... :confused: Sorry if you meant something else.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 20:48
Somalia has little. I didn't know you had Yemen, and you don't have Djibouti.. yet.

Oh, and AB can you change the Tyr thing up front to "Armed Republic of Carloginias" ?

Yeah.

Drosk: Lemme see what Waldenburg does in the area first. I'm not committing to anything yet.

Honako: That can quite easily spill overseas, depending on what happens. Those 150,000 soldiers I requested from Candistan aren't for nothin'.
Ambrose-Douglas
15-06-2007, 21:02
AB, I'm sure the Djiboutan people would be open to negotiations to become a protectorate to the nations actually coming to protect them... whether it be yourself, Granate, or Waldenburg... just contact the General and we'll see what we can work out.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 21:04
AB, I'm sure the Djiboutan people would be open to negotiations to become a protectorate to the nations actually coming to protect them... whether it be yourself, Granate, or Waldenburg... just contact the General and we'll see what we can work out.

I like this idea somewhat. I left the door open to Drosk in my last post, but of course I'm after all I can get...next post, I'll hit off to the Djibouti gov't.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 21:05
Well, I'm officially a lifeguard now, so I'm free once again to do things on NS. What have I missed?

Buncha minor wars. I'm at your factbook, asking for a price :P
Candistan
15-06-2007, 21:06
Well, I'm officially a lifeguard now, so I'm free once again to do things on NS. What have I missed?
Ambrose-Douglas
15-06-2007, 21:13
I like this idea somewhat. I left the door open to Drosk in my last post, but of course I'm after all I can get...next post, I'll hit off to the Djibouti gov't.

I've already sent an APB to the forces in the gulf, including yours.
Kopparbergs
15-06-2007, 21:13
Hi there folks!

Are there any countries left for me to claim?

If the map/first post is up to date I would like to ask if I can have Burma (Myanmar), Bhutan and Bangladesh?
Carloginias
15-06-2007, 21:13
Kopp, theres still a bunch of stuff to claim go global lol. Also, today is the 15th so Indonesia, Nigeria, and someone else is gone if you want to claim those.

Hon- Posted.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 21:13
Hi there folks!

Are there any countries left for me to claim?

If the map/first post is up to date I would like to ask if I can have Burma (Myanmar), Bhutan and Bangladesh?

Map's up to date, but would you like something more lucrative?

Today's the activity-purging day, so would you like, if you want to do over that,

Argentina/Falklands/Uruguay,

or

the Indonesia claim,

or,

either the Egyptian or the Nigeria claim?

Those are all open, being voided due to inactivity on the owners's behalf. They've never been around. Russia was nixed and replaced earlier today by Carlo.
Candistan
15-06-2007, 21:17
To everyone that posted a mercenary request in my factbook, I responded, so reply back with info on deployments and all that jazz. I need two questions answered: what is up in Djibouti and AB, what war are the 150,000 needed for? I missed it at lifeguarding class so I need an update.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 21:24
To everyone that posted a mercenary request in my factbook, I responded, so reply back with info on deployments and all that jazz. I need two questions answered: what is up in Djibouti and AB, what war are the 150,000 needed for? I missed it at lifeguarding class so I need an update.

Djibouti is being blasted up between Granatian/Amazonian forces on one side and Drosk/Waldenburg forces on the other side.

150,000 is about what I'll need on the Imperial sides for my Civil War (I'm gonna wait 'till I get back from summer training camp-July 3rd-to actually start that, since I'm leaving for it on the 20th, in five days-vice mod (I think Futuris won that, I'll have to go see) will take over for me during that period). It'll be the Federals vs. the Imperials, and that many will probaly be required to go up against what's one of the toughest forces (tech, not numbers) in EFJ. Plus, that way I can get more nations in on it. Maybe even spark a global war if an "incident" happens. It'll be big-maybe even a few tactical nukes thrown about for some devestation (don't worry, I'll control those-I don't want that getting out of hand, just for a plot device).
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 21:27
OOC: Can I grab Egypt OHHH PLEASE OHHHH PLEASE!!??
Granate
15-06-2007, 21:29
Sorry I haven't been able to post lately, my family and I went up to Chicago for my Nephew's first birthday so I was on the road most of yesterday.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 21:30
Granate: no prob, we're still shooting at each other in Djibouti.

Drosk: You already made a factbook, so like Canadstein, that's set. You can fight for it, though. Of course, if Kopp wants to claim it here, he can. I'm leaving those open for the moment.
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 21:38
Granate: no prob, we're still shooting at each other in Djibouti.

Drosk: You already made a factbook, so like Canadstein, that's set. You can fight for it, though. Of course, if Kopp wants to claim it here, he can. I'm leaving those open for the moment.

yea if Kopp wants it I won't say a thing about it no prob


And I was going to ask the Egyptian leaders if they desired an annexation in order to build a larger Muslim state etc etc.... how would I go about doing that, should Kopp not want it?
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 21:41
yea if Kopp wants it I won't say a thing about it no prob


And I was going to ask the Egyptian leaders if they desired an annexation in order to build a larger Muslim state etc etc.... how would I go about doing that, should Kopp not want it?

Someone else RPs the Egyptians, and replies (trust me, Egypt's got a nice military...might want to go about doing that in a "nice" manner).
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 21:43
Someone else RPs the Egyptians, and replies (trust me, Egypt's got a nice military...might want to go about doing that in a "nice" manner).

Droskianishk is currently in no position to do it the mean way haha.


Anybody willing to RP the Egyptians or should we wait for Kopp to make a claim?
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 21:49
Let's wait for Kopp to decide on what he wants (I TG'ed him too)-I'll give him a day. I'll be voiding them all today, but I'm gonna leave them open for a day before giving them up for winner-take-all. I mean, I really like the idea of incorporating Indoensia...
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 21:52
Haha alright, well I have to work tommorrow from 3-11 so if he doesn't claim Egypt.... save it for me. or something... I shotgun it...
Droskianishk
15-06-2007, 21:54
Thanks for the heads up A-B!

The Egyptian claim sounds very nice! I think I'll go for it! (Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya and Uganda.) I'll come up with a name for my nation, and start the work on the factbook.



DAMMITT ALL MY PLANS SEEM TO FAIL!!! Nothing personal Koppar... you've missed alot... but anyways welcome to EFJ I look forward to working with you...
Kopparbergs
15-06-2007, 21:55
Map's up to date, but would you like something more lucrative?

Today's the activity-purging day, so would you like, if you want to do over that,

Argentina/Falklands/Uruguay,

or

the Indonesia claim,

or,

either the Egyptian or the Nigeria claim?

Those are all open, being voided due to inactivity on the owners's behalf. They've never been around. Russia was nixed and replaced earlier today by Carlo.
Thanks for the heads up A-B!

The Egyptian claim sounds very nice! I think I'll go for it! (Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya and Uganda.) I'll come up with a name for my nation, and start the work on the factbook.
Amazonian Beasts
15-06-2007, 21:56
Thanks for the heads up A-B!

The Egyptian claim sounds very nice! I think I'll go for it! (Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya and Uganda.) I'll come up with a name for my nation, and start the work on the factbook.

No problem, you're in, welcome to EFJ!

I'll update the map here (got it covered, Granate) and add you to the list.

FYI everyone, I just axed the inactive nations from the list and the map.