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Earth: Final Judgment

This is the general IC Thread, See here for branching details (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529166)

Overall Mod: Amazonian Beasts
Vice Mods: Futuris and Candistan
Map Mod: Granate

Update Ticker: Inactive Nations purged today. Remember to stay active, or if you'll be gone for and extended period, to flash a mod (or several mods) a TG!



Welcome to Earth Final Judgment, or EFJ, fellow RPers! The pretense of this Earth is built around an MT scope and NS politics and thought. Some major details will veer off from traditional Earth layouts, which I will detail a little later in this post.

First of all, my own credentials: this is my second created Earth. My first, dubbed "Earth: 22nd Century" was highly successful for about 2 months before the original "Alternate History" mandate was laid down. E22 died, but it was good while it lasted. I served noticeably as Vice-Mod for the Earth of Succession and Suspenion that was popular here for about 2 months before the recent ruling, as well as partaking in Earth: SYAE, Cold War 2007 Earth, and Universe II, a Future-Tech themed Earth. I'm pretty well immersed in the layout, and I believe EFJ will have even more success than any of those. Why? All of its rules and layouts are designed to maximize potential while still staying inside of the Alternate History guidelines. Therefore, it will be able to progress unrestricted here on NS.

Now, as to the layout of EFJ:

Credits to Wagdog for the highly successful model of the "Suspension of Disbelief". It worked entirely well, and thanks to his foresight, I'm going to continue the project into this Earth.


What Suspension of Disbelief Is: In a nutshell, the Suspension of Disbelief is the incorporation of "out of the box" elements into one's own nation. This includes things such as non-human races (Vampires were a popular one before), secret facilities (Area 51 comes to mind), and other ideas that aren't neccessarily in the normal frame of view. There however, is a slight catch to letting your creativity run wild. Such technology, biology, demography, however-can not increase the ability of your nation without also maintaining balance. Ie, if you decided to have Vampires in your nation, far stronger than normal humans-sort of "MT Halo Spartans"-they must also bring about some sort of negative effect to also cause your nation to balance out these strengths and weaknesses. Ie, if you have Area 51 working on a high-tech project with the alien ship that crashed in Roswell, than Area 51 (or the ship) must have some sort of adverse effect.
Of course, you can ignore the Suspension of Disbelief entirely, if you'd prefer.


How did you get the Name "Final Judgment"?: Well, that's a bit tricky. One element will be the nature patterns, which I will describe in the upcoming section. Also, though, the name reflects the Earth-it's up to you as the players and RPers to decide whether Earth goes into a total catastrophic state (Global Warming and other events that can trigger nature will play a part!), or whether it survives. Whether nations fall, men meet their doom...that is up to you. That is this Earth.


The Elements and Nature: EFJ is coming into a less-utilized category by incorporating natural effects, both negative and positive, into its repetoirre. This is the power wielded by the Staff of Mod (sorry folks-though I will keep it balanced, however, and hit my own claims as well as allied and hostile to me alike. I'm sure I proved in my ESS alien invasion that I'm fair). However, if you'd like a certain natural something to happen to your nation, pass it by me with a TG, and I'll review it for clearance or rejection-there are RPers with better ideas than me, and I'd love to include your ideas in this too.


Democracy in EFJ: I intend for EFJ, rather than be (sorry, whoever created SYAE) dictadorial by the mod(s), to be more of a player-run organization. That means we'll be having polls from time to time about various issues, and the occassional "big event" that can strike the entire world (thinking big here). I want this to be as enjoyable event for the RPers as possible.


Claiming Nations: Claiming nations is an easy process of simply making a post of what you want here in the OOC thread. Be sure to referance the upcoming map to see what's avaliable! Here's how the claims system will work, as multiple nations can be claimed.
-You may claim one of the nations on the coming list classified as a "Class 1" nation.
-If you claim one "Class 1" nation, you can claim up to five other smaller nations/islands/territories not on the list.
-If you do not claim a "Class 1" nation, you can claim seven smaller nations/islands/territories.

This measure is simply to reinforce that we do not have mega nations popping up and dominating.


Real-Life Factors Coming into Play, but Maintaining NS Eligibility: For reference and organizational purposes, three limiting factors must be imported from the real world to prevent this Earth from devolving into a mass chaos of uber-strong nations. These are: Gross Domestic Product (GDP), Population, and Land. By claiming the landmass of a nation, you also claim it's set population and GDP, that is based from the real life standard of the land/nation. However, these are the only RL factors. So, if you claim what is IRL Italy, you also claim Italy's GDP and Population. However, everything else is up to your NS nation's normality, as shown in the next bullet. Regarding GDPs: please feel free to adjust economic statistics within the GDP (ie, devoting more/less money to military, or more/less money to education), but please stick to your total GDP as to keep some sort of imbalanced structure (for variety) in this Earth.


Your NS Nation as Your Nation: This will essentially be the guideline, except for the Population/Economics/Land restrictions I posted above for limiting purposes and variety. Your national name, people ethnicities, leaders, government style, important individuals, religions, etc., even products-those are all NS-derived information for this RP (though keep in mind, products on NS are often RL-based-for instance, I use the Dassault Rafale as a carrier-borne fighter in NS RPing. So you can still have your cool RL tech you like, since it's used in NS RPing too, but you can also include your own designs).
A little note about NS Tech in this Earth: if you do use NS-derived tech, please make sure to include a list of statistics about your product/tech. That will let the entire EFJ community know about what you use and lead to less confusion.
Also, about your own NS things-such as religions, or other things that are exclusively NS-designed to your nation-please include an informative description of such so that EFJ can understand about your whatever it is. You can even define your own climate.


Activity: Obviously, EFJ needs plenty of people to be active. If you don’t think you’ll be too active, choose a smaller set of nations with less power-the bigger claims need to be active, ie, if you take the Koreas and China, or Russia and Ukraine, or France and Spain. Inactivity is accepted in pre-approved cases (please notify if you won’t be active for a stretch), but if you have not cleared an inactive stretch, a nation will be voided after 20 days of inactivity.


Class One Nation List: Here's a list of all the "Class One Nations"-of which you may only choose one of the landmasses/GDPs/populations of this list.

-USA (Claimed)
-Russia (Claimed)
-France (Claimed)
-Germany (Claimed)
-United Kingdom (Claimed)
-Italy (Claimed)
-Canada (Claimed)
-Egypt (Claimed)
-South Africa (Claimed)
-Argentina (Claimed)
-Nigeria
-Brazil (Claimed)
-Japan (Claimed)
-China (Claimed)
-Indonesia (Claimed)
-India (Claimed)


Thanks to Grante, our map-maker, the EFJ Map:


http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2179/yoobetchaitsanotehrupdanv0.png


The Dominion of Amazonian Beasts: RL Japan, Philippines, Taiwan/RoC, Sakhalin Island
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12724880&posted=1#post12724880)

The Imperial Monarchy of Honakon: RL People's Republic of China, South Korea, North Korea, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12729707)

The United Socialist States of Marxikhan: RL India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12726543#post12726543)

The United Confederate States of Calizorinstan: RL USA, Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, Guatemala, Belize
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528742)

The Divine Empire of Waldenburg: Germany, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, Finland, Norway
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12725584#post12725584)

The Armed Republic of Carloginias: Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, Georgia, Estonia, Poland
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12766865#post12766865

The Kingdom of Animarnia: Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Kuwait
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528811)

The World Empire of Futuris: UK, Ireland, Belgium, Spain, Morocco, Algeria
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528803)

The Nationalist Corbournnian Realm France (& Corsica), Austria, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Switzerland, Northeastern Slovenia, Monaco
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12724952#post12724952)

Shakal: Libya, Italy, The Vatican, Croatia, Serbia, Greece, Southwestern Slovenia

The Federation of Ambrose-Douglas: Panama, Cuba, Costa Rica, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Puerto Rico
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528761&highlight=Ambrose-Douglas)

Republican Monarchy of Granate: Brazil, Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Paraguay
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12726708&posted=1#post12726708)

Schroeder Corporate Territory: South Africa, Lesotho, Mozambique, Swaziland, Botswana, Namibia
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12726838#post12726838)

The Mighty Union of Kansiov: Republic of Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo, Angola
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12734244&posted=1#post12734244)

Canadstein: Canada
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529958)

Bulgia Republic: Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528990)

The Intoxicated Socialist States of Drunken Pagan Wierdos: Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Cambodia, Borneo, Malaysia

The Kingdom of Droskianishk: Syria, Somalia, Yemen

The Armed Republic of Kampfers: Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Macedonia
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529301)

Khasjim: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikstan, Kyrgyzstan, Khazakstan
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529358)

The East African Commenwealth of Kopparsbergs: Egypt, Uganda, Kenya, Eritrea, Sudan, Ethiopia
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=530159)

Alprazoism: Argentina, Falklands, Uruguay, Madagascar, Tanzania

Incursus: Indonesia, Myanmar, Singapore, Bangledesh, Malaysia, Brunei

The Libertarian Paradise of Mauritalia: Mali, Mauritania
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12776990#post12776990)

The Commonwealth of Granzi: Nigeria, Niger, Burkina Faso, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Benin
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=530523)

I will claim the RL U.S.A, Mexico, Venuzelua, Colombia

I will claim the RL U.S.A, Mexico, Venuzelua, Colombia

Confirmed and added. Thanks for your interest!

Be back in thirty minutes, ya'll...go ahead and claim away!

You're welcome AB, you're an enjoyable person to RP with!

Thanks AB!

Thanks ab! Judging by the largness of other nations, would it be alright for me to extend my country a few more nations? If so i'll take


1. Nepal

2. Bangladesh

3.Sri Lanka


if not, that's cool. If i can only have a couple take them in that order. Thanks ahead...!

Nepal and Sri Lanka, sure-Bangladesh I'll hold off-it could become a foundation for someone else in the area because it's got a massive population.

I wish to claim Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Iceland for the fun of it. (Of it the Danish islands are seperate from the rest of Denmark tose out Iceland.) All of this become the Most Divine Waldenburg Empire.

Can mine be known as The Imperial Monarchy of Honakon?

I'll be the Empire of Russia.

Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, Georgia, Estonia, Poland

I'll claim Russia as my class one nation.

As my five other nations, that'll be Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Hungary, and the Czech Republic.

The Empire of Futuris is fine.

Sorry, a little late. I claimed Russia and my other countries first.

I''l be the United Confederate States of Calizorinstan

Futuris: Sorry, Tymh got it. You can go for any of the others avaliable...

Updating as I type...

Hmmm....this should be interesting. My NS nation has only delt with domestic issue's, but i think its time i take a more "french" look on democracy. In other words my main export will be Freedom, Justice and Equality.

I'll be the Empire of Russia.

Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, Georgia, Estonia, Poland

Sorry, but you have to hold your own name-I'm assuming it's the "Rogue Nation of Tymh Spltr Invsn", per your sig. It's part of the new rules for Earths.

Hmmm....this should be interesting. My NS nation has only delt with domestic issue's, but i think its time i take a more "french" look on democracy. In other words my main export will be Freedom, Justice and Equality.


Oh and is it alright to give your nation a sudden Boost in Military? As in military spending increased?

Oh and is it alright to give your nation a sudden Boost in Military? As in military spending increased?

Yes (sorry to speak for you AB) though you must take it out of other things (such as welfare or education). But remember, you don't use RL military numbers (unless you want to).

Yes (sorry to speak for you AB) though you must take it out of other things (such as welfare or education). But remember, you don't use RL military numbers (unless you want to).

Well, i havn't ever used my NS nation in anything. So, i'm really starting from scratch. So i might use these nations military for my NS military. That should be fine. I won't such an instagator in this earth...My nation has a tiny 1% defence spending limit(over 17 billion in NS). So i might cut money from 23% administartion or the 22 percent education

Yes (sorry to speak for you AB) though you must take it out of other things (such as welfare or education). But remember, you don't use RL military numbers (unless you want to).

Correct. While EFJ is promoting flexibility, it's all promoting intra-nation (inside one nation) balancing. So, if you're looking to increase one thing, and your GDP hasn't grown-then look to decrease another thing to make it all fit.

So sure, you can have a real large military if you'd like. However, be prepared to have a less ample, say, education or healthcare or law enforcement or civil works fund thanks to this high spending on military.

Well, i havn't ever used my NS nation in anything. So, i'm really starting from scratch. So i might use these nations military for my NS military. That should be fine. I won't such an instagator in this earth...

Well, seeing as you're using India's population, rather than your own NS population (one of our 3 limiting factors), it might not be best for your NS nation to use your military numbers...

Per se, there are dedicated econocalculators for mainstream NS. However, older nations (such as my own) get such high GDPs and economies that I figured I'd nix that entirely from this Earth to promote stability.

Well, seeing as you're using India's population, rather than your own NS population (one of our 3 limiting factors), it might not be best for your NS nation to use your military numbers...

Per se, there are dedicated econocalculators for mainstream NS. However, older nations (such as my own) get such high GDPs and economies that I figured I'd nix that entirely from this Earth to promote stability.

Yeah, im looking an economic calculater as we speak. Well i need to get to work on my factbook...I'm assuming there is no time line when to get this done? I plan on having this one really deatailed.

Yeah, im looking an economic calculater as we speak. Well i need to get to work on my factbook...I'm assuming there is no time line when to get this done? I plan on having this one really deatailed.

Feel free to take your time. I'll link them to the first page when each is completed.

Wow, im using these nations armed forces without a doubt.India third largest armed forces, Pakistan 7, Iran 8....This should be a fun RP ;)


And i won;t even need to take a cut in my budget, and if i do it will only be by 1 percent

Wow, im using these nations armed forces without a doubt.India third largest armed forces, Pakistan 7, Iran 8....This should be a fun RP ;)

Marx: You don't need to adhere to the national armed forces present. You can make your own. The population adherance refers to the national (overall) population of a country. You can increase those military numbers if you like (but personally, I'd consider quality over quantity). Or, if you prefer, decrease them. That's not a standard (nothing military-wise is-if you'd like to use the F-22 as your primary jet, or the F-4, or the Rafael, or a custom-design, feel free to).

I'd like to take:

Isreal, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Quatar, United Arab Emirates, and Oman please that 7 I belive?

Marx: You don't need to adhere to the national armed forces present. You can make your own. The population adherance refers to the national (overall) population of a country. You can increase those military numbers if you like (but personally, I'd consider quality over quantity). Or, if you prefer, decrease them. That's not a standard (nothing military-wise is-if you'd like to use the F-22 as your primary jet, or the F-4, or the Rafael, or a custom-design, feel free to).

I'm not to Military-Tech savy.( i tend to pay more attention to the politics of the war) It seems like India/Pakistan and Iran have a good military technology, and if i feel like changing it up i bit i will. But i really only need my military to "help spread the message of Communist Republicanism" and to make sure Honoko dosn't step into my boundrys....

I'd like to take:

Isreal, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Quatar, United Arab Emirates, and Oman please that 7 I belive?

Confirmed...I'll update the map and your status in just a flash.

Glad to have you on board, Animarnia.

Confirmed...I'll update the map and your status in just a flash.

Glad to have you on board, Animarnia.

:) good to be here; you run a good ship AB. so if I've read the front page right...my NS military tech is ok to use? I'll probably go with a much smaller but more high tech military

and does that cover stuff I've bought from Storefronts like DMI or just stuff I've designed myself?

:) good to be here; you run a good ship AB. so if I've read the front page right...my NS military tech is ok to use? I'll probably go with a much smaller but more high tech military

and does that cover stuff I've bought from Storefronts like DMI or just stuff I've designed myself?

(I Think) that we are using Modern tech, but i could be wrong

:) good to be here; you run a good ship AB. so if I've read the front page right...my NS military tech is ok to use? I'll probably go with a much smaller but more high tech military

and does that cover stuff I've bought from Storefronts like DMI or just stuff I've designed myself?

*chuckles* keep in mind, NS tech is designed for exceptionally high GDPs. You can have them in EFJ, but the bigger designs that are less economical will obviously be harder and far more costly to maintain.

Of course, you can have it, and in a smaller bu more high tech military, that could work well for you. Only stipulation is you have to make a post (preferably a link in your factbook to the unit/product/otherwise, but an entire post in your factbook is fine as well with all your tech on it, or one for each) detailing the statistics and capabilities of the unit/product/otherwise, so all EFJ RPers know what you're talking about when you mention it.

As long as it's in your NS military, you can use it. If you want to use something that's not in your military, you need permission from the storefront owner/designer (or both, if it's the case) to use it here.

(I Think) that we are using Modern tech, but i could be wrong

DMI is pretty modern to be honest; only really sways into slight PMT nothing unbalancing; its no bother I just bought a lot of stuff off him thats all I can swap it out for MT RL stuff if need be.

*chuckles* keep in mind, NS tech is designed for exceptionally high GDPs. You can have them in EFJ, but the bigger designs that are less economical will obviously be harder and far more costly to maintain.

Of course, you can have it, and in a smaller bu more high tech military, that could work well for you. Only stipulation is you have to make a post (preferably a link in your factbook to the unit/product/otherwise, but an entire post in your factbook is fine as well with all your tech on it, or one for each) detailing the statistics and capabilities of the unit/product/otherwise, so all EFJ RPers know what you're talking about when you mention it.

As long as it's in your NS military, you can use it. If you want to use something that's not in your military, you need permission from the storefront owner/designer (or both, if it's the case) to use it here.

Fine with me; I'm going to scale down my NS Military a heck of a lot though; my full naiton has a 35 trillion dollar defence budget which I won't get here obviously. that works pretty well though; I got all my current stuff up in an off site forum I'll put links to in my fact book for you.

Oh my Isreal includes the Westbank and Gaza yah?

If im using the RL nations military, will i be completly unable to compete with others using Nationstates/other Modern Tech Armys?

Fine with me; I'm going to scale down my NS Military a heck of a lot though; my full naiton has a 35 trillion dollar defence budget which I won't get here obviously. that works pretty well though; I got all my current stuff up in an off site forum I'll put links to in my fact book for you.

Oh my Isreal includes the Westbank and Gaza yah?

That really wouldn't fit your combined GDP (remember, GDP is RL-based), so I hope you scale it down ;)

Yeah, Israel is what the Palestinians "claim" as well.

If im using the RL nations military, will i be completly unable to compete with others using Nationstates/other Modern Tech Armys?

Certainly you would. NS tech requires a whole heck of a lot more to maintain and actually utilize, since it's designed to work with massive GDPs and defense budgets. Hence, in EFJ, with RL GDPs and populations, NS tech will be in lesser use, due to it's high cost in manpower and money to maintain-a nation would be suicidal to completely rely on it. You'll be able to field a larger military than a nation your size and GDP that used all NS tech would, since your maintenance and upkeep costs are far less. You could afford 500 jets (example), while your opposite could afford 100.

Certainly you would. NS tech requires a whole heck of a lot more to maintain and actually utilize, since it's designed to work with massive GDPs and defense budgets. Hence, in EFJ, with RL GDPs and populations, NS tech will be in lesser use, due to it's high cost in manpower and money to maintain-a nation would be suicidal to completely rely on it. You'll be able to field a larger military than a nation your size and GDP that used all NS tech would, since your maintenance and upkeep costs are far less. You could afford 500 jets (example), while your opposite could afford 100.

Thanks:)

Thanks:)

No problem.

I'm cruisin' through my factbook, so I'm stickin' around a while.

Plenty of space avaliable, prospective RPers, incluidng some of the real juicy stuff (Britain, France, Italy, Egypt, South Africa, Brazil, Canada...)

So i am the only left-economy here currently?

So i am the only left-economy here currently?

Not sure, but I'm certainly right-leaning in economics and socio-political thought (ICly and OOCly). Might be :D

Not sure, but I'm certainly right-leaning in economics and socio-political thought (ICly and OOCly). Might be :D

Hey, im very left on both sides...(my sig needs an update, im much more radical on my views as of late) My NS nation is also very left(currently a left-wing Utopia). I will change it up a bit, i plan on exporting my views(through Military, Political and economic intervention...

Cali: Um, $25 trill GDP? Mexico + Colombia + Venezuela + USA should come out to be around a $14.5 trillion GDP, not 25 trill.

Remember, GDPs are based on RL statistics for your actual claimed nations (one of the three limiting factors, apart from population and land).

AB, I am going to fix that, you're right, sorry, I am tired.

Cali: Um, $25 trill GDP? Mexico + Colombia + Venezuela + USA should come out to be around a $14.5 trillion GDP, not 25 trill.

Remember, GDPs are based on RL statistics for your actual claimed nations (one of the three limiting factors, apart from population and land).

Oh god, people already finishing there factbooks? I am yet to start(not on main home computer). How will this weather thing work?

AB, I am going to fix that, you're right, sorry, I am tired.

No problem. Just wanted to get to it before anything arose from it.

Oh god, people already finishing there factbooks? I am yet to start(not on main home computer). How will this weather thing work?

You can set your own climate.

The way the weather is going to work: based on how I see your climate, every two-three days I'll be sending out some sort of natural occurence (this is all in the first post, as well-see there for more information) to a random nation (numerical generator based on stated variables I found off of Limewire to do it completely randomly).

You can set your own climate.

The way the weather is going to work: based on how I see your climate, every two-three days I'll be sending out some sort of natural occurence (this is all in the first post, as well-see there for more information) to a random nation (numerical generator based on stated variables I found off of Limewire to do it completely randomly).

that sounds cool. Time for me to decide the least destructive climate

that sounds cool. Time for me to decide the least destructive climate

I can always find things :P

Personally, mine will have plenty of exploitable things. More fun that way. Additionally-there's no way it's fun to live on a saturated, flat stick of land.

I can always find things :P

Personally, mine will have plenty of exploitable things. More fun that way. Additionally-there's no way it's fun to live on a saturated, flat stick of land.

I want to do the tropics, but i really don't want to be smaked by uber-hurricans, will the cllimate effect our economy or only play a role destruction?

Whatever, could have been time warp, by two minutes....but I won't be an ass about it.

I'll claim the United Kingdom as my class one nation.

Ireland (Isn't Northern Ireland a part of the UK?), Belgium, Spain, Algeria, and Morocco.

The World Empire of Futuris.

Hopefully no one beat me by two minutes this time... :p

I want to do the tropics, but i really don't want to be smaked by uber-hurricans, will the cllimate effect our economy or only play a role destruction?

Won't affect economy (until the disasters roll about...and stuff blows up). It'll affect what happens in events (there are positive events too...that I have yet to think up. Primarily negative, though). Your climate will affect (well, for the most part-sometimes it won't, in "special" cases) mostly the events that happen, and the ones that don't.

Certain climates will have certain positive and negative events likely to happen.

Futurits what is your economic and soical postion(ICly)

Futurits what is your economic and soical postion(ICly)

Economical? As in, communism, capitalism, socialism...?

Social? You mean just political system right?

Probably capitalist.

Monarchy, constitutional monarchy, dictatorship, fascism, etc. sound good. Maybe I could settle for a more democratical approach to my political system. Probably not.

Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco

The *Something* of Corbournne. (haven't decided on a name yet)

Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco

The *Something* of Corbournne. (haven't decided on a name yet)

Wow....I'm not a mod, but that's clearly more than six nations....plus, Spain, Algeria, and Morocco are taken by me. Sorry....but Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, and Tunisia are still open.

Good Idea AB

I wanted Germany, but o well.

Ill take:

Italy (Class 1)*

Greece
Slovania
Libya
Croatia
Serbia


*Do I have to claim the Vatican And San Marino?

Whatever, could have been time warp, by two minutes....but I won't be an ass about it.

I'll claim the United Kingdom as my class one nation.

Ireland (Isn't Northern Ireland a part of the UK?), Belgium, Spain, Algeria, and Morocco.

The World Empire of Futuris.

Hopefully no one beat me by two minutes this time... :p

On it.

Corbournne-Uh, you'll need to cut a couple of those-it's 1 Class-1 nation and five small ones/unconnected territories (ie, me taking Sakhalin), or seven small ones/unconnected territories

Wow....I'm not a mod, but that's clearly more than six nations....plus, Spain, Algeria, and Morocco are taken by me. Sorry....but Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, and Tunisia are still open.

Oh, sh!t, that's what I get for not reading anything.

France (includes Corsica), Switzerland, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Portugal, and Austria

Economical? As in, communism, capitalism, socialism...?

Social? You mean just political system right?

Probably capitalist.

Monarchy, constitutional monarchy, dictatorship, fascism, etc. sound good. Maybe I could settle for a more democratical approach to my political system. Probably not.

You got economic right, and social is basicly civil/political freedoms

Oh, sh!t, that's what I get for not reading anything.

France (includes Corsica), Switzerland, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Portugal, and Austria


Sardinia is part of Italy...

You got economic right, and social is basicly civil/political freedoms

Not too many political freedoms, some civil freedoms.

Good Idea AB

I wanted Germany, but o well.

Ill take:

Italy (Class 1)*

Greece
Slovania
Libya
Croatia
Serbia


*Do I have to claim the Vatican And San Marino?

Er, some of those have already been picked up.

If you want the little nations, yeah, you've got to take them, too.

Good Idea AB

I wanted Germany, but o well.

Ill take:

Italy (Class 1)*

Greece
Slovania
Libya
Croatia
Serbia


*Do I have to claim the Vatican And San Marino?

Oops, you updated. M ybad, i'll fix.

If you want Vatican and San Marino, yeah, you'll have to claim 'em. Or you could just conquer 'em later (but I don't think that'd be good with the Vatican...)

AB, I think you switched around the Netherlands and Belgium. Corbournne claimed the Netherlands after I had claimed Belgium. No problem, you know - I can't even do maps, so I probably shouldn't be complaining. ;)

I'll take Panama, Costa Rica, Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, and El Salvador please... yeah Pirate of the Caribbean, lol

AB, I think you switched around the Netherlands and Belgium. Corbournne claimed the Netherlands after I had claimed Belgium. No problem, you know - I can't even do maps, so I probably shouldn't be complaining. ;)

I did...my bad.

Ambrose, I'll be on it in a sec, once I flip my Euro countries :P

That really wouldn't fit your combined GDP (remember, GDP is RL-based), so I hope you scale it down ;)

Yeah, Israel is what the Palestinians "claim" as well.

Goood good; just wanted to check if I had to genocide any of the nasty critters >_> but yup on the GDP hence the scaling back ;) quite dramatically though just want to check if I'm allowed my HEL ABM system and Godrod sats?


And we're capitalist; and Democracy

Oops, you updated. M ybad, i'll fix.

If you want Vatican and San Marino, yeah, you'll have to claim 'em. Or you could just conquer 'em later (but I don't think that'd be good with the Vatican...)

Ok then
ill change Slovenia to the Vatican

I did...my bad.

Ambrose, I'll be on it in a sec, once I flip my Euro countries :P

Merci boucoup (oui, that was a little Francais):p

I'll get my factbook up tomorrow...today was the last day of school (*celebrates*) with my French and Geometry finals, but I'll get it done tomorrow.

Quick question: Say that with our NS nation we purchase a couple tanks or something that are MT from another nation (that are designed by that nation) can we use them here, and if we can, does the number have to be the same that it is with our NS nations, or can we change the numbers around (say I actually bought 1,000 - can I have 2,000 of those tanks here)? (so many questions with this new alternate history thing lol :p)

Oi... factbooks? *sigh* I hate factbooks *mumbles*

Aaaaaanyyyyways... you know what this whole land grab thing reminds me off? A really, really, screwed up version of Risk... who wants Austril-Asia? lol

Hey Honoko? Seeing as you are looking to be the most powerful nation(after me of course ;)) what kind of international role do you seek to play as?

Oi... factbooks? *sigh* I hate factbooks *mumbles*

Aaaaaanyyyyways... you know what this whole land grab thing reminds me off? A really, really, screwed up version of Risk... who wants Austril-Asia? lol

Lol, i can see why, but how is it screwed up? This is how land claiming for earths go(except it is limited here)


Astralia-Liam Claim FTW :D:D:D

Goood good; just wanted to check if I had to genocide any of the nasty critters >_> but yup on the GDP hence the scaling back ;) quite dramatically though just want to check if I'm allowed my HEL ABM system and Godrod sats?


And we're capitalist; and Democracy

You can use Godrods-but keep in mind, some nations *cough*me*cough* consider Godrods as opening the WMD stockpile ;) (just hintin' y'know...so the nukes and smallpox aren't a surprise). Hope you can support a space program, too.

Not sure what the Hel ABM is, but as long as you post stats, should be fine.

Of course, your GDP will need to be able to support this stuff, and NS tech is designed for higher GDPs...hence, for the most part, NS tech will probaly see a higher-tech/lower-number role in EFJ.

Ambrose: You can use my diagram for factbooks if you want (lotta people do, and it's pretty simple-for an example, search for "North American Republic" by thread title)

Merci boucoup (oui, that was a little Francais):p

I'll get my factbook up tomorrow...today was the last day of school (*celebrates*) with my French and Geometry finals, but I'll get it done tomorrow.

Quick question: Say that with our NS nation we purchase a couple tanks or something that are MT from another nation (that are designed by that nation) can we use them here, and if we can, does the number have to be the same that it is with our NS nations, or can we change the numbers around (say I actually bought 1,000 - can I have 2,000 of those tanks here)? (so many questions with this new alternate history thing lol :p)

If you buy them after IC has begun, you'll have to actually RP their development. If you buy them before, then you can count them and change their number too.
However, remember about NS tech, that maintaining it is almost uniformally far costlier.

Shakal: On it.

Lol, i can see why, but how is it screwed up? This is how land claiming for earths go(except it is limited here)


Astralia-Liam Claim FTW :D:D:D

It's screwed up because I took nations that in Risk... well, I'd be dead. But here, I have a strategic advantage. I may not be big, but I control the Panama Canal... so people should want to make nice with me, lol.

It's screwed up because I took nations that in Risk... well, I'd be dead. But here, I have a strategic advantage. I may not be big, but I control the Panama Canal... so people should want to make nice with me, lol.

For the most part i have no interest in your country what-so ever. :p The Canal means little to me...However...What is your governments ideaology/international stance?

Do I get the overseas departments of my countries?

For the most part i have no interest in your country what-so ever. :p The Canal means little to me...However...What is your governments ideaology/international stance?

We want to make nice for the most part. Diplomacy before war. We mostly use our troops on humanitarian missions. We help our allies, but not with enough troops that we are sucked in for a long, long time (a.k.a. RL Vietnam, Iraq)

Ideology... well, the government endorses no religion, though all are free to practice (The President and Ambassador are actually Pastafarians themselves). Civil unions for homosexual couples are allowed, and they are afforded the same legal rights as married heterosexual couples. Abortion is allowed only in cases of rape, incest, or when the birth of the child would adversely affect the health of the mother.

Umm... yeah... anything else you want to know? lol

We want to make nice for the most part. Diplomacy before war. We mostly use our troops on humanitarian missions. We help our allies, but not with enough troops that we are sucked in for a long, long time (a.k.a. RL Vietnam, Iraq)

Ideology... well, the government endorses no religion, though all are free to practice (The President and Ambassador are actually Pastafarians themselves). Civil unions for homosexual couples are allowed, and they are afforded the same legal rights as married heterosexual couples. Abortion is allowed only in cases of rape, incest, or when the birth of the child would adversely affect the health of the mother.

Umm... yeah... anything else you want to know? lol

Economic Position AND would you allow a Paramilitary group within your nation



BTW i thought i would just let y'all no i will not just chose Allies because of there ideaology. Im just using now to scope out Possible Full Alliance nations...

Corbournne;12724687']Do I get the overseas departments of my countries?

Negativo, just what's national claimed in the local vicinity (so, Corsica but not French Guyana).

Economic Position AND would you allow a Paramilitary group within your nation



BTW i thought i would just let y'all no i will not just chose Allies because of there ideaology. Im just using now to scope out Possible Full Alliance nations...

Sounds good to me, because you'll certainly hate the Dominion's Imperial ideology :p

Sounds good to me, because you'll certainly hate the Dominion's Imperial ideology :p

I know :D Should prove to be an interesting conflict when it comes(and i'm sure it will. We are very equal, economicly and through military. China's involvment will make or break the possible war.

I know :D Should prove to be an interesting conflict when it comes(and i'm sure it will. We are very equal, economicly and through military. China's involvment will make or break the possible war.

Remember, we must avoid the wording of RL or the Big Bad Staff of NS Mod will smite you! :D

My nation is too smart for full-scale war (well, my current leader). Subtle and fatal is more the style (though, when he dies...someone will take his place who will probaly be far more brash).

Economic Position AND would you allow a Paramilitary group within your nation



BTW i thought i would just let y'all no i will not just chose Allies because of there ideaology. Im just using now to scope out Possible Full Alliance nations...

Economic... we're capitalist. We let people choose how to spend their money... yeah, that's about all I can think of for the moment.

Second question... iffy. Depends on what they do. We're strongly against terrorism... sooo yeah. That'd be handled on a case-by-case basis.

Remember, we must avoid the wording of RL or the Big Bad Staff of NS Mod will smite you! :D

My nation is too smart for full-scale war (well, my current leader). Subtle and fatal is more the style (though, when he dies...someone will take his place who will probaly be far more brash).

Sorry, Honoko will play a major role in the war.


Hmmm, was that a hint at future plans? *begins working on plan to assasinate Amazonian Leader*

Am i still the only lefty nation here!

Economic... we're capitalist. We let people choose how to spend their money... yeah, that's about all I can think of for the moment.

Second question... iffy. Depends on what they do. We're strongly against terrorism... sooo yeah. That'd be handled on a case-by-case basis.

Well the group i am creating with my nation isn't a terrorist group. It stems of from the National Guard. The Marx Men(Clever name, i know) are more of oversea's security for Marxkhan

Well the group i am creating with my nation isn't a terrorist group. It stems of from the National Guard. The Marx Men(Clever name, i know) are more of oversea's security for Marxkhan

Well, if my government sees where there could be a need for them (say, if your nation was using the Panama Canal), we might be inclined to let them have a small base on the side of the canal... for a price, of course.

Negativo, just what's national claimed in the local vicinity (so, Corsica but not French Guyana).

Ok, cool.

And, just to tell a little about my country before I make a factbook, it's going to be a corporate fascist dictatorship! :D (Sorry, Marxikhan.) 'Tis nothing like my "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy" in RL NS, hope that's not a problem, because democracies are no fun to play. :p

Sorry, Honoko will play a major role in the war.


Hmmm, was that a hint at future plans? *begins working on plan to assasinate Amazonian Leader*

Am i still the only lefty nation here!

To be honestly truthful, I do plan on killing him off here (I have looked to do it in mainstream NS, but can never find the right moment...so for a year and a half Kyp Droma has sat around). So he can die here. Of course...one must question whether they actually want to face one of his successors...who are directly confrontational (well, for the most part. I'll do some character bios in my factbook).

Corbournne;12724807']Ok, cool.

And, just to tell a little about my country before I make a factbook, it's going to be a corporate fascist dictatorship! :D (Sorry, Marxikhan.) 'Tis nothing like my "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy" in RL NS, hope that's not a problem, because democracies are no fun to play. :p

Agreed/ I for one am going to be playing as a Communist Republic/Communist State. Very little political freedoms for our people, and our Revolutionary Leader can override the rest of the Government, so i really hold supreme power. Corporate Facist Dictatorship...pffft Alas i am still the only Lefty here. Lol Corbournne you were my last hope...

Corbournne;12724807']Ok, cool.

And, just to tell a little about my country before I make a factbook, it's going to be a corporate fascist dictatorship! :D (Sorry, Marxikhan.) 'Tis nothing like my "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy" in RL NS, hope that's not a problem, because democracies are no fun to play. :p

I personally prefer political infighting, so there'll be a bunch...between all my imperial apprentices...

I personally prefer political infighting, so there'll be a bunch...between all my imperial apprentices...

hmmm...any chance a communist apprentice takes power?

/bump how many nations before we start the RP?

Marx: Lol, none of them are communist-they're all mad power-hungry. One's psychotic, one's angry beyond anything ever seen on Earth, one's just...wierd...one's scheming and devious, and the last one sits back and betrays everybody (don't worry, the last one will die...)

/bump how many nations before we start the RP?

I'll see how many we got tomorrow-if we have any more, I'll probaly start. I'd like to get some in South America if possible, or more in Africa, or both. Hopefully.

A'ight, I'm linking factbooks beneath the respective nations on Post #1 (mine's already up there, but not done yet), so if you got one, post it here.

Marx: Lol, none of them are communist-they're all mad power-hungry. One's psychotic, one's angry beyond anything ever seen on Earth, one's just...wierd...one's scheming and devious, and the last one sits back and betrays everybody (don't worry, the last one will die...)

ah, i see. So then im guessing no Marx Men(i love that name) Will be allowed in your nation?

A'ight, I'm linking factbooks beneath the respective nations on Post #1 (mine's already up there, but not done yet), so if you got one, post it here.

I'm working on mine right now... do I just post it in a thread when I'm done?

ah, i see. So then im guessing no Marx Men(i love that name) Will be allowed in your nation?

For now you will be, because my current leader is the "crafty devious" type. All my imperialist assholes are not-nice, but he's better than most of his hand-picked successors (well, one of them is actually a bit better for people like you-that'd be the fourth one on the previous list-he's in the same mold as my current guy).

I'm working on mine right now... do I just post it in a thread when I'm done?

Just make a thread for it when you want to start it up-you can make it multiple-post or single post. However, remember, if you're including NS tech or otherwise, be sure to either link it or to provide statistics and info on it.

For now you will be, because my current leader is the "crafty devious" type. All my imperialist assholes are not-nice, but he's better than most of his hand-picked successors (well, one of them is actually a bit better for people like you-that'd be the fourth one on the previous list-he's in the same mold as my current guy).

hmmm, ill get that ready once diplomatic realtions are allowed in your factbook

No one's claimed Indonesia I see. I will take that one, if you please. And also Iran, Ghana, and Singapore if they have not been claimed.

hmmm, ill get that ready once diplomatic realtions are allowed in your factbook

I can probaly do that by tomorrow...

No one's claimed Indonesia I see. I will take that one, if you please. And also Iran if that has not been claimed already.

I have Iran

No one's claimed Indonesia I see. I will take that one, if you please. And also Iran if that has not been claimed already.

Approved (just Indonesia, Marx is Iran), however, I'll update tomorrow as I'm going out now to enjoy my Friday...

Be back tomorrow, ya'll.

Approved (just Indonesia, Marx is Iran), however, I'll update tomorrow as I'm going out now to enjoy my Friday...

Be back tomorrow, ya'll.


Peace

I'll take Brazil, Ecuador, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, and Paraguay.

I'll take Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, and Paraguay.

Granate, are you a lefty, even in the slightest degree?

Granate, are you a lefty, even in the slightest degree?

What?

What?

OCC: I believe he means Left-winged on the political line.

OCC: I believe he means Left-winged on the political line.

In real-life I am a socialist, but my NS-Nation is Semi-Constitutional Monarchy that leans slightly left.

Hey Honoko? Seeing as you are looking to be the most powerful nation(after me of course ;)) what kind of international role do you seek to play as?

Marx, you should really stop hunting for future allies. :p As for my international role, I’m unsure – I don’t want to be another one of those nations who remains neutral – I’ll always have a firm opinion on something, though may not always act (though I can see some issues between our countries due to being so close – and I’m eyeing Mongolia – so you can either try and ally with me and we can work together, or not). I’ll tend to be more involved if it concerns me or allies (and I don’t give away alliances and anti-aggression pacts for free).

Anyway, in answer to your question - my government are quite like isolationist. Yes, I have the second largest economy in the world and the biggest population and my people don't like to go out much, but hey, that's the way it works. I'm ruled by a oaranoid Supreme Ruler - a Monarch (who's name is undecided) - who basically tries to keep the news in his country to his liking. He is not too fond of the far left or the far right, though he will overlook that if it's in his interests. He isn't exactly a fascist dictator ruler, it's just when you have 1.5 billion people to control you don't real want an uprising.

As for my political leanings, politics don't figure much in my country - it's all centred on this one man and his family. However, when I feel there is enough peace in the world - I may overthrow him for a committee run government like my NS nation has. He does have a cabinet of sorts, but their advisors (instead of Minister for Defence it's Advisor for Defence) and they are considered to have some real power to influence. However my economy is far more socialist than capitalist - in China RL it has a massive economy due to it's pure cut throat capitalism, whereas mine the rich-poor divide won't be so high (the average earnings a year would be around $7000 a year probs, but I've lifted them higher but countered that by making my economy less capitalist). So I suppose Marx, in answer to the 'our you lefty' question - I'm an Imperial Monarchy with slight Capitalist Socialist and Dictatorship leanings (:D) - however unlike some Monarch's I'm not a bastard, I like my people.

And by the way to comply with my NS nation my people are of Belgium descent, the main languages are French, English and Dutch, 90% to 95% of the population is European, whilst the rest is divided up between Arabs, Africans and whatever races people make up in this thing (however Asians as in Japanese etc. are not viewed upon favourable due to acient history and all minorities will be mostly in the poorer areas of Western China). Architecture will be very Western European, large ornate palaces and halls, however my cities will be more like the metropolis of Shanghai etc. And my climate is cold but dry in winter, wet and sunny in Spring, sunny and hot in Summer...basically a classic Western European weather, however much of the terrain and geography stuff will be similar to China to help AB do this disasters thing.

This post is long, but I’m answering all questions that interested me.

we'll be maintaining a high tech but defencive military like my main nation with out limited power projection to help our allies if needed but on the whole most of our stuff will be british

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12725584#post12725584

My half completed factbook I'll finish it soon though.

Well, first of all, great job, AB. Secondly, I want to claim South Africa, along with Lesotho, Swaziland, Namibia, Botswana, and Mozambique. I know since you're such a nice guy you'll just consider Lesotho and Swaziland one nation due to their size and relative importance. (Please?)

I would like to claim Angola, Demorcratic Republic of Congo, Rep. Of Congo, as the Mighty Union Of Kansiov.

Just a quick question; can we import our diplomatic relatoons? if Veteka joins this Earth; we're pretty good NS allies so just wondered if that carried over.

I'll take Brazil, Ecuador, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, and Paraguay.

Just reminding people.

Bump...

I would like EGYPT, Sudan, Eritea, Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda..Under the name of the "The Imperial Empire of Maldorians"

I would like EGYPT, Sudan, Eritea, Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda..Under the name of the "United African Tribes"

It has to be under your nations name. Due to the new rules, it has to be your REAL NS nation

It has to be under your nations name. Due to the new rules, it has to be your REAL NS nation


fixed...:D

It's got your name and ethinicity and government type.
But you've got your territories population and economy.

fixed...:D

Ok...now you just need to wait for AB to come on :D

So who is going to have the highest GPD with these current nations? I think its

1.Calizorinstan

2.Honoko

3. and 4. Close between AB and Marxikhan

Cali, Honako, Me, Futuris, Marx, I think for Top 5 GDPs.


Everybody accepted.

Cali, Honako, Me, Futuris, Marx, I think for Top 5 GDPs.


Everybody accepted.

Ah, your right forgot about Futris, but hey! Im in the top five...*little dance*

My Factbook is up, here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528761&highlight=Ambrose-Douglas).

Just a quick question; can we import our diplomatic relatoons? if Veteka joins this Earth; we're pretty good NS allies so just wondered if that carried over.

You'll need to re-make contact. It's standard Earth procedure, where relations are "re-set" and everybody begins on an equal diplomatic plane (since RL tensions or NS tensions are not in effect).

Of course, you ca become quick allies in EFJ with Vetaka, were he to join.

My Factbook is up, here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528761&highlight=Ambrose-Douglas).

Looks good, I put yours and Waldenburg's up.

I'm the Republican Monarchy of Granate and I'll get the Factbook up today before work.

I'm the Republican Monarchy of Granate and I'll get the Factbook up today before work.


Mine should be up before the end of tonight...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528796

My factbook.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528796

My factbook.

Are you done?

Nowhere near.

Here's mine:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528742

It's a WIP, but I'll get around to finishing it for diplomacy soon.

If it's okay,I'll also claim Belize and Guatamala also AB, that make my claim's 5.

Im going to post what i got so far...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12726543#post12726543

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12724952#post12724952

Basic Unfinished Factbook (Blatant Copy of AB's)

Just a warning, Candistan isn't a RPing entity, it is actually the Schroeder Corporation. So, South Africa and such is to be known as the Schroeder Corporate Territory from here on out. The SCT is basically a really big corporate conglomerate, completely self sufficien from any government force claiming power in their territory. They are protected by Schroeder Defense Industries, a PMC and arms manufacturer, and are also supported by divisions such as Schroeder Agriculture Services, Schroeder Mining and Manufacturing, and Schroeder Autos.

Just a warning, Candistan isn't a RPing entity, it is actually the Schroeder Corporation. So, South Africa and such is to be known as the Schroeder Corporate Territory from here on out. The SCT is basically a really big corporate conglomerate, completely self sufficien from any government force claiming power in their territory. They are protected by Schroeder Defense Industries, a PMC and arms manufacturer, and are also supported by divisions such as Schroeder Agriculture Services, Schroeder Mining and Manufacturing, and Schroeder Autos.

Err...i think it will have to be known as Candistan Corporate Territory

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12726708&posted=1#post12726708

Still have to put in economy, military, foreign relations, and climate. Then you can post (embassies, etc.).

Err...i think it will have to be known as Candistan Corporate Territory

Not necessarily, think of it like Dyelli Beybi's The KLATCH or Hakurabi's entities.

Err...i think it will have to be known as Candistan Corporate Territory

Yeah I agree with that, if it isn't a sovereign nation and you aren't based anywhere besides in land you won not paying taxes that makes you a Persona non Gratus. (Not sure what it is for companies meh.) If not a sovereign state then you aren't recogonizied and can't take part in diplomacy, and by that not have allies when war breaks out (Which of course wouldn't be a war:eek:). I'd say fine if the company, runs a shell government running things off a assests voting system such as in early America. Of course there's the whole Suspension of Disbelief, so go for it I guess. But as a company, the only ICily thing Waldenburg will do with you is possibly invade, we won't accept your exsistance as a governing body.

Although admittedly if you're a company you have a lot more disposable income and have no need to pay welfare for those who can't work. But oppositely no one owes you more alligence then the next paycheck. On reflection it's a pretty good situation so long as you don't go smashing down international doors and dragging out the crown jewels.

Not necessarily, think of it like Dyelli Beybi's The KLATCH or Hakurabi's entities.

Ah, ok i see what your saying. As long as it is a company from your NS nation it should be fine...

I started the factbook, so it pretty much outlines what Schroeder is. Honestly, they don't care if they are recognized or not, and I am throwing in a revolutionary force who wants a formal government, but otherwise, they are just interested in bsuiness. I mean hey, look at the military! It is a massive PMC!

Updated for everyone (including your Belize and Guatemala, Cali)

Thanks, AB

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12726838#post12726838

The Schroeder Corporate Territories Factbook

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12726838#post12726838

The Schroeder Corporate Territories Factbook

Didn't want to post in there incase you wern't done, but would i be allowed to have my Paramilitary group, the Marx Men support the BLA?

Didn't want to post in there incase you wern't done, but would i be allowed to have my Paramilitary group, the Marx Men support the BLA?

I suppose, but I'll warn you now, the Corporation already deals with the BLA harshly, so if you were found supporting them, don't expect any of the Schroeder Corporation's fine products any time soon, not to mention possible intervention.

Anyways, I am switching it up in this Earth. Instead of embassies in the SCT, either buy stock in the company or you sign up for the SCT to invest in yours (You get to choose how much you spend or how much I invest, of course.) The people with the most money invested in my stocks or I have invested in their nation are viewed better and get the perks of that (Deals and stuff).

I suppose, but I'll warn you now, the Corporation already deals with the BLA harshly, so if you were found supporting them, don't expect any of the Schroeder Corporation's fine products any time soon, not to mention possible intervention.

Anyways, I am switching it up in this Earth. Instead of embassies in the SCT, either buy stock in the company or you sign up for the SCT to invest in yours (You get to choose how much you spend or how much I invest, of course.) The people with the most money invested in my stocks or I have invested in their nation are viewed better and get the perks of that (Deals and stuff).

My nation dosn't plan on dealing with you anyway :D So that isn't much of a probelm for me...Do you want me to post the Marx Men estblashing a base in your nation, in your fact book as a letter to the BLA or somthing..?

AB, I am sorry to bother you, but I have one last claim of Honduras, please, thank you.

I suppose, but I'll warn you now, the Corporation already deals with the BLA harshly, so if you were found supporting them, don't expect any of the Schroeder Corporation's fine products any time soon, not to mention possible intervention.

Anyways, I am switching it up in this Earth. Instead of embassies in the SCT, either buy stock in the company or you sign up for the SCT to invest in yours (You get to choose how much you spend or how much I invest, of course.) The people with the most money invested in my stocks or I have invested in their nation are viewed better and get the perks of that (Deals and stuff).

Nice. When we get up and IC going, I'll be on that second part...

My nation dosn't plan on dealing with you anyway :D So that isn't much of a probelm for me...Do you want me to post the Marx Men estblashing a base in your nation, in your fact book as a letter to the BLA or somthing..?

Wait 'till the ball gets rolling a little more. I will say that you can establish a base, but it won't be easy. You have three groups that won't want you there: The Schroeder Corporation, for one, then the Jmabwe Cartel and The Syndicate, all of them mostly because they view all of the other groups an interference of business.

AB, I am sorry to bother you, but I have one last claim of Honduras, please, thank you.

Nice. When we get up and IC going, I'll be on that second part...

That is my least favorit part of Earth Rp's. I hate going from factbook to factbook having to make requests for diplomacy...

Wait 'till the ball gets rolling a little more. I will say that you can establish a base, but it won't be easy. You have three groups that won't want you there: The Schroeder Corporation, for one, then the Jmabwe Cartel and The Syndicate, all of them mostly because they view all of the other groups an interference of business.

ok, that should be fun...

Oh, and Marx, another thing I didn't mention. A good thing (for you). The BLA frequently tries to hijack diamond, gold, and other shipments from the Schroeder Corporation to fund their operations. You might end up getting some of that from the BLA for support, but it is going to come at a price :)

Oh, and Marx, another thing I didn't mention. A good thing (for you). The BLA frequently tries to hijack diamond, gold, and other shipments from the Schroeder Corporation to fund their operations. You might end up getting some of that from the BLA for support, but it is going to come at a price :)

NICE! This RP should be alot of fun...

NICE! This RP should be alot of fun...

Indeed it shall...

I'll just throw this out there now, but remember, my fellow RPers, if you ever need military help or just need someone else to do your dirty work for you, contact the Schroeder Defense Industries [SDI] clientel hotline! Well-equipped mercenaries at good prices! If you call in the next ten minutes, you get a Denel OMC RG-32M APC FREE!

Indeed it shall...

I'll just throw this out there now, but remember, my fellow RPers, if you ever need military help or just need someone else to do your dirty work for you, contact the Schroeder Defense Industries [SDI] clientel hotline! Well-equipped mercenaries at good prices! If you call in the next ten minutes, you get a Denel OMC RG-32M APC FREE!

*Calls*

"Yeah... operator? No, I don't need anything, I just wanted the free APC." :p

*Calls*

"Yeah... operator? No, I don't need anything, I just wanted the free APC." :p

Beat me to it.

Besides, it's past ten minutes... :(

That's cool though, with the investing. I'll make sure to put in a few. :p

Here's a fun fact, Iran's Paramilitary exceeds 11,000,000 men

Here's a fun fact, Iran's Paramilitary exceeds 11,000,000 men

That's what wikipedia says...But then again Iranian Paramilitary is like babies with AK-47's

That's what wikipedia says...But then again Iranian Paramilitary is like babies with AK-47's

LOL! Yeah but teens with AK-47's is all i need for my paramilitary(ie. boarder patrol, people undermining candistan)

LOL! Yeah but teens with AK-47's is all i need for my paramilitary(ie. boarder patrol, people undermining candistan)

Have fun with GSG-17 lol.

AB, I am sorry to bother you, but I have one last claim of Honduras, please, thank you.

That exceeds the 1-and-5 or 0-and-7 claim # (you're a 1-and-5, since you have the USA, a Class-1 nation), so sorry, but I'll have to hold that.

Have fun with GSG-17 lol.

Lol, dosn;t sound like fun....Hmmm car bomb's anyone? Suicide Bombers?

Ill take Indonesia, New Guinea, Australia, and New Zealand. Rename them all to The Heart of Armageddon.

Sorry AB, I just now remembered, that was a mistake on my part.

Lol, doesn't sound like fun....Hmmm car bomb's anyone? Suicide Bombers?

*Sigh*...The BLA frowns upon suicide bombers...it isn't honorable. So before you start planning, look at the new update on my factbook on goals of the Paramilitaries and such.

*Sigh*...The BLA frowns upon suicide bombers...it isn't honorable. So before you start planning, look at the new update on my factbook on goals of the Paramilitaries and such.

Ok, those operations won't be implemented there then...

Ill take Indonesia, New Guinea, Australia, and New Zealand. Rename them all to The Heart of Armageddon.

Indonesia's already taken. Wanna change that to Malaysia?

Ill take Indonesia, New Guinea, Australia, and New Zealand. Rename them all to The Heart of Armageddon.

Im...not...alone?

Im...not...alone?

Lol...nope. How do you plan on getting your "Freedom Fighters" into The SCT all the way from Asia?

Iran's military is hard to find info on. Is it alright to just increase the number of other nations equiptment to match Irans manpower? (remember im starting my NS nation from scratch here)

Lol...nope. How do you plan on getting your "Freedom Fighters" into The SCT all the way from Asia?

Hmmm...never came to mind(though Reality never does in the mind of a freedom fighter either)...im going to assume That the BLS dosn't have any reasources? I would just have my military transport them, but technicly my paramilitart is seperate from the state(the state is not responsible for there actions...)

Hmmm...never came to mind(though Reality never does in the mind of a freedom fighter either)...im going to assume That the BLS dosn't have any reasources? I would just have my military transport them, but technicly my paramilitart is seperate from the state(the state is not responsible for there actions...)

The BLA has some resources such as guns supplied by The Syndicate, cash stolen from the Corporation, drugs from the Jmabwe Cartel (lol), and other such things. About your gov't supporting them, it is safe to say that the SCT will not take that lightly. They will have allies through their business dealings who I am sure would not want to see their business partner succumb to communists.

Sorry for triple post...man my military part of my factbook so so unorginized

Iran's military is hard to find info on. Is it alright to just increase the number of other nations equiptment to match Irans manpower? (remember im starting my NS nation from scratch here)

You aren't restricted to Iran's military. You can use other RL tech, NS tech, your own tech, whatever. The only limiting factors are Total Pop, GDP, and land.

The BLA has some resources such as guns supplied by The Syndicate, cash stolen from the Corporation, drugs from the Jmabwe Cartel (lol), and other such things. About your gov't supporting them, it is safe to say that the SCT will not take that lightly. They will have allies through their business dealings who I am sure would not want to see their business partner succumb to communists.

Like i said, im going to need to find a way to get my paramilitary over there w/o the state being involoved. Somthing to figure out during the rp...

When, estimated, will this start up?

Like i said, im going to need to find a way to get my paramilitary over there w/o the state being involoved. Somthing to figure out during the rp...

When you say your paramilitary, I hope to god you don't mean that MASSIVE amount of people that would outnumber my regular forces 10 to 1.

I'll probaly start an IC thread later today or tomorrow...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops - Wikipedia is ok for military.

And Marx, I'm upset you didn't read my big post for you on page 8. I thought you'd be happy at the thought your neighbour wasn't a big captilist.

You aren't restricted to Iran's military. You can use other RL tech, NS tech, your own tech, whatever. The only limiting factors are Total Pop, GDP, and land.

I know...man claims alot of nations makes Military Very hectic. And even more hectic when you can't find any info on their military(ie. Iran)

It doesnt say Indonesia's taken on the front page...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops - Wikipedia is ok for military.

And Marx, I'm upset you didn't read my big post for you on page 8. I thought you'd be happy at the thought your neighbour wasn't a big captilist.

Im doing Wikipedia military :) and i didn't see the page 8 thing. Let me go check it out...

It doesnt say Indonesia's taken on the front page...

On the map...need to update.

It's Machiavellian Heaven

When you say your paramilitary, I hope to god you don't mean that MASSIVE amount of people that would outnumber my regular forces 10 to 1.

No, there is no way i could get 13 million people down there LOL! No im not even sure if i can get 1 million...And Honoko i read you little bio thing...sounds good! Glad not everyone is uber Facist Corporate Empire

No, there is no way i could get 13 million people down there LOL! No im not even sure if i can get 1 million...And Honoko i read you little bio thing...sounds good! Glad not everyone is uber Facist Corporate Empire

If you aren't careful about it you might not even get in 1000 lol.

If you aren't careful about it you might not even get in 1000 lol.

Lol, i wasn't suggesting puting that much in there, i was just saying that i couldn't even get a fraction of my men in there...

Lol, i wasn't suggesting puting that much in there, i was just saying that i couldn't even get a fraction of my men in there...

Still, pay heed to my warning.

ANYWAYS, I am working on my military, so I am pretty much using all South African equipment for the main force.

AB, are you done with your factbook? I noticed there was no military info in there...Is it that neccicary to have such a extensive datebase of equiptment?

Has anyone claimed Ghana or Singapore yet? If not, I'll take those two

BTW, anyone can answer my question above...

BTW, anyone can answer my question above...

It usually helps yes. if you plan on going to war with anyone and yay I have neighbours on both sides now :)

Has anyone claimed Ghana or Singapore yet? If not, I'll take those two

Ghana with Indonesia? Ok, but bit of an odd choice...

Marx: No, I ain't done with it yet. If you have outside of RL equipment, then yes, either include links to the information or have the information (statistics and pertinent info) in the factbook.

If you want to avoid all that, simply use RL technology and equipment.

Ghana with Indonesia? Ok, but bit of an odd choice...

Marx: No, I ain't done with it yet. If you have outside of RL equipment, then yes, either include links to the information or have the information (statistics and pertinent info) in the factbook.

If you want to avoid all that, simply use RL technology and equipment.

Ok, might not be done by this week end though. Have alot of AP class projects to finish up...and why is Nigeria a class one nation?

Chad, Central African Republic, Niger, Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon

Thank you.

Chad, Central African Republic, Niger, Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon

Thank you.

Confirmed; Updating

So...uh, how does Israel have god rods?

Chad, Central African Republic, Niger, Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon

Thank you.

I thought it was one and five.

I thought it was one and five.

I did too.

Whoops, that's seven.

I'll bump Equitorial Guinea off the list.

So...uh, how does Israel have god rods?

Animarnia wanted 'em.

Don't worry 'bout Godrods, by the time they actually make it from orbit to ground, you can pop about a half dozen volleys of missiles at 'em. Besides, a successful strikes, in my opinion, is always grounds for nuclear retaliation.

Animarnia wanted 'em.

Don't worry 'bout Godrods, by the time they actually make it from orbit to ground, you can pop about a half dozen volleys of missiles at 'em. Besides, a successful strikes, in my opinion, is always grounds for nuclear retaliation.

Spreaking of nukes, is it okay for me to have South Africa's former nuke program?>

Spreaking of nukes, is it okay for me to have South Africa's former nuke program?>

It can be on par with America's nuke program, for all what matters. Your nation is only tied to Southern Africa by GDP, Land, and Total Population. Anything else is how you want it to be for your nation.

Ie, my Asian people aren't Asian at all-Asian is a small minority, while Caucasian and African are the primary racial groups. As well, they all speak American English, and there's a marine corps (that none of my nations actually have IRL).

So, go all out. Just make sure to keep it all within your GDP, though.

It can be on par with America's nuke program, for all what matters. Your nation is only tied to Southern Africa by GDP, Land, and Total Population. Anything else is how you want it to be for your nation.

Ie, my Asian people aren't Asian at all-Asian is a small minority, while Caucasian and African are the primary racial groups. As well, they all speak American English, and there's a marine corps (that none of my nations actually have IRL).

So, go all out. Just make sure to keep it all within your GDP, though.

Okay, but I am not going overboard with it, I am focusing more on chemical and biological weaponry since I find them more practical. (Plus, I can test Chem/bio weapons on the Marx Men I capture, then send back the remains with a nice card lol)

Okay, but I am not going overboard with it, I am focusing more on chemical and biological weaponry since I find them more practical. (Plus, I can test Chem/bio weapons on the Marx Men I capture, then send back the remains with a nice card lol)

I agree with you on Chem and Bio weapons being more efficient (especially bio...and all its nasty effects, Ooh-rah!)

Ambrose-Douglas doesn't have nukes, just the capability to make them since we have nuclear power plants. We only use chem and bio though, and that's only for bad, bad times.

Waldenburg dosen't have nukes or chemical weapons we perfer the in your face hot pokers method.

My factbook is open for business, I guess. Anything else I need to add I can edit on later. Invest away!

Mine is open as well if anyone wants to get some exclusive shipping rights on the Panama Canal ;-)

I hope the IC comes up soon, I can't wait.

I hope the IC comes soon as well, lol

I'll probaly start an IC thread later today or tomorrow...

One thing AB...can you make the first post on the IC Thread kind of "neutral"? As in, have all the threads and/or factbooks there, and a link to this thread? If you want to put down an actual IC post, could it be on the second post? You don't have to of course - but I don't feel like having to check out two different threads to get the list of IC threads - which I felt helped in ESS (at least to me...) and in SYAE it was on the IC thread too, which made it pretty cool and useful. Just a request.;)

We may as well post small threads about something going on in our nations till the IC comes up, that's what I'm going to do.

My Factbook (though far from finished) is going to go ahead and open, too.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12728109#post12728109

Here is the first IC thread. It deals with the Corporation's fight against the Black Liberation Army (which will eventually be supported by the Marx Men). Enjoy!

The Marx Men, oh my. :rolleyes::p

Anyway, Candistan - I've looked at your company thread but still, what does it actually do (in brief)? The Honakon Empire (RL China, Thailand, The Koreas etc.) would be interested in your services I'm sure if they knew of them. If you use ports etc. I plan on having the largest city in the world with the largest exporter and import port and airport to go with it (actaully, I might put the airport somwhere else).

Hmm, this looks potentially a good place for Bulgia Republic. I don't want Bulgia to be big, and already the damn thing's grown larger than Russia in terms of its NS population.

I'd be interested in having Belarus, Latvia, and Lithuania (darn, Poland's taken!) to form Bulgia Republic (local long form, The Republic of Bulgia would presumably be conventional), though it looks like we'll have to tread softly around Tymh Spltr Invsn! Hope I haven't missed anything in the last few pages.

I'll have to look at other people's factbooks and learn about their history, but at the moment I see Bulgia as a market-oriented authoritarian democracy in which the government is gradually attempting to take command control of the economy. Looks like we'd have about fifteen and a half million people with something like a hundred and seventy billion dollar economy in PPP terms (similar to Finland, Ireland, Venezuela, Hungary, and others).

The Marx Men, oh my. :rolleyes::p

Anyway, Candistan - I've looked at your company thread but still, what does it actually do (in brief)? The Honakon Empire (RL China, Thailand, The Koreas etc.) would be interested in your services I'm sure if they knew of them. If you use ports etc. I plan on having the largest city in the world with the largest exporter and import port and airport to go with it (actaully, I might put the airport somwhere else).

The Schroeder Corporation is a massive business, probably the most powerful business (in terms of what it controls and its profits), that controls the resources-rich lands of Southern Africa. It is split up into many divisions, the major one's being the SDI, a huge PMC and arms developer that acts as teh military arm of the corporation, Schroeder Petrochemicals, the resident oil and chemical company, Schroeder Motorverks, the main transportation and auto manufacturing company, Schroeder Pharmeceuticals, the main medicinal company, Schroeder Mining and Manufacturing, the 3M of the Corporation, and a few more.

Basically, they control everything in its claimed territory without any gov't controls, regulations, etc. I can assure you hat you wold basically get the best prices in the world on a lot of products and that your investments in the company's stock is safe without the risk of Strikes and all that jazz.

Can I start a "History of EFJ" thread? Basically, since we all have different countries under our own NS name, a seperate history thread to see how things got to where they are. Once I get it up, basically outline a few things in your history that were validly important. The reason for this is to make it more realistic - not just a land-grabbing Earth, but an Earth that has some sort of history to back this up.

For example, did World War I and II happen? Even if they did, it would be very different from the way it turned out in RL. So we need to work on it together. If, deep in your countries history, there was a point of interaction/conflict with another nation, work it out with the other nation to see how things went. That history can be a basis for tensions/feelings in present-day (if both nations agree on it, of course...) which can lead to wars and alliances.

Although it's technically an "alternate history", I think it would fall under the allowed category since we are using our NS names. If you need to label a landmass in order for it to make sense, put the landmass (England) in parenthesis, so we can see what you're talking about. I'll try to get it up today - with permission from AB. ;)

You might want to fix my factbook link.

Well, in my history Britain and France played a role in our discovery, and I will briefly mention the world wars - we had little damage in the first, though Britain tried to invade us in the second from Thailand in order to exploit on our weaknesses from bombing raids - so there are references to real life events and countries in there, but they are little expanded on. I can change all that to NS names though in this earth if anyone is interested in being a mean evil conquer of my country (it's French-European, so a country of that type would be best) from about 1600 to 1850. I'll be writing a history up anyway, but I'll be willing to expand on the issues such as the world wars and how it effected my country etc.

However, my country kept to itself, so there was little conflict and alliance, but we would have some history with our invaders.

Granate, is your factbook open? The Schroeder Agricultural Services whould be interested in your sugar cane, not to mention S2M being interested in your Andes Mountains mines.

Granate, is your factbook open? The Schroeder Agricultural Services whould be interested in your sugar cane, not to mention S2M being interested in your Andes Mountains mines.

No. And we don't like Corporations such as yourself.

No. And we don't like Corporations such as yourself.

Oh, snap.

Anyways, on a better note, where did everyone get their exchange rates at? When I try to use NS economy it never works.

Well, in my history Britain and France played a role in our discovery, and I will briefly mention the world wars - we had little damage in the first, though Britain tried to invade us in the second from Thailand in order to exploit on our weaknesses from bombing raids - so there are references to real life events and countries in there, but they are little expanded on. I can change all that to NS names though in this earth if anyone is interested in being a mean evil conquer of my country (it's French-European, so a country of that type would be best) from about 1600 to 1850. I'll be writing a history up anyway, but I'll be willing to expand on the issues such as the world wars and how it effected my country etc.

However, my country kept to itself, so there was little conflict and alliance, but we would have some history with our invaders.

Remember who plays Britain... (me). ;)

But yeah, once AB gives me the green light, I'll post it up, it should be fun.

@Candistan: For the exchange rates, I use NS Tracker, it's pretty cool. Unfortunately, it's down at the moment. Actually, it's been down for some time. I don't know why...

EDIT: Nevermind. http://www.sipan.org/~peter/NationStates/Tracker/

EDIT 2: Nevermind again. Apparently only that page works or something. Too bad. Anyone else know a different NS Economy sight/system?

The Marx Men, oh my. :rolleyes::p QUOTE]
You don't like the name :( snif snif :(
[QUOTE=Granate;12729539]No. And we don't like Corporations such as yourself.

Nor do I..../alliance?



My factbook is not done yet but anyone is free to post for embassy exchange...

Im also going to restart my military. INsted of having 10,000 peices of equiptmne tlike RL life armys, I'll have one assault rifle, one or two kinds of tanks ect. ect. kind of like Walden Burg did it

Ha! One Corporate Credit = $1.64!

And Marx, look at the Corporation Strikes thread, it includes you.

Ha! One Corporate Credit = $1.64!

And Marx, look at the Corporation Strikes thread, it includes you.

Ok, can i get a link?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....9#post12728109
here you go.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....9#post12728109
here you go.

thanks...

Can you see that?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528839 - that links works for me.

Damn, must not have copied it right. Thanks for the fix.

Can you see that?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528839 - that links works for me.

Both work...Candistan, not sure what to say. I will post in it later though. Not sure how soon I will be allowing my men in there.

Both work...Candistan, not sure what to say. I will post in it later though. Not sure how soon I will be allowing my men in there.

Do you want me to put out a secret BLA plea for help?

Do you want me to put out a secret BLA plea for help?

Thanks:)

There you go, Marx. Have fun with the BLA.

There you go, Marx. Have fun with the BLA.

Ok, and Honoko it looked like i was allowed to post so i did in your factbook tell me if i need to delete it...

I posted...

Ok my fact book is now open for Diplomacy :) some things still need filing in but the meat and potatoes is done.

Ok my fact book is now open for Diplomacy :) some things still need filing in but the meat and potatoes is done.

I posted in it...Im going to be the firendly neighborhood commy!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12729707 - there you go. That's my factbook, now open for diplomatic relations - though still incomplete (history and military to follow)

Hmm, this looks potentially a good place for Bulgia Republic. I don't want Bulgia to be big, and already the damn thing's grown larger than Russia in terms of its NS population.

I'd be interested in having Belarus, Latvia, and Lithuania (darn, Poland's taken!) to form Bulgia Republic (local long form, The Republic of Bulgia would presumably be conventional), though it looks like we'll have to tread softly around Tymh Spltr Invsn! Hope I haven't missed anything in the last few pages.

I'll have to look at other people's factbooks and learn about their history, but at the moment I see Bulgia as a market-oriented authoritarian democracy in which the government is gradually attempting to take command control of the economy. Looks like we'd have about fifteen and a half million people with something like a hundred and seventy billion dollar economy in PPP terms (similar to Finland, Ireland, Venezuela, Hungary, and others).

Sounds good to me, you're in.

Can I start a "History of EFJ" thread? Basically, since we all have different countries under our own NS name, a seperate history thread to see how things got to where they are. Once I get it up, basically outline a few things in your history that were validly important. The reason for this is to make it more realistic - not just a land-grabbing Earth, but an Earth that has some sort of history to back this up.

For example, did World War I and II happen? Even if they did, it would be very different from the way it turned out in RL. So we need to work on it together. If, deep in your countries history, there was a point of interaction/conflict with another nation, work it out with the other nation to see how things went. That history can be a basis for tensions/feelings in present-day (if both nations agree on it, of course...) which can lead to wars and alliances.

Although it's technically an "alternate history", I think it would fall under the allowed category since we are using our NS names. If you need to label a landmass in order for it to make sense, put the landmass (England) in parenthesis, so we can see what you're talking about. I'll try to get it up today - with permission from AB. ;)

Sure, go ahead.
I'll set up an IC thread here with links to everything...

Then I'll keep working on my factbook...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12729707 - there you go. That's my factbook, now open for diplomatic relations - though still incomplete (history and military to follow)

Is it alright if i add on to my original request? I see no reason why we also can't be economic allies