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Maybe it's longer, but you didn't write it all in one sitting, now, did you? Especially while only half-concious at four in the morning.

Not to mention you seem to make up for lack of content with big lettering.

Maybe it's longer, but you didn't write it all in one sitting, now, did you? Especially while only half-concious at four in the morning.

yes i wrote it in one sitting, at 2 in the morning wacthing cowboy bopep

yes i wrote it in one sitting, at 2 in the morning wacthing cowboy bopep

That was on last night too! I watched it with my eyes.

PS. Entire, not intire. Common error.

OOC:So, when are we gonna get back to the war in Africa?

OOC:So, when are we gonna get back to the war in Africa?

there was a war???? i was over there for humaterian aid...i never heard of a war

- Hmmm, how quaint. Mere guards. The bodyguard smiled at the 15 guards.
"Of course, i will put down my gun." he looked to the left. Tenebri agents were rushing down the hall. Perhaps he wasn't needed after all. He leapt into the air and kicked out at the man who appeared to be in charge of the group of Guards. His foot made contact and the leaders head was snapped back. The other guards proceeded to fire at him, hitting him in the chest. He fell to the ground. By now the guards were rushing at the tenebri agents. Perhaps he could buy some time for his allies to get in. He pulled out his sword. Leaping up and off the ground he caught a guard running by him in the stomach with his sword. The remaining 13 guards turned around. He yelled and threw a Flash Bang grenade, then ran screaming towards the guards, sword in hand. the guards were blinded by the Flash Bang Grenade and were prone to the bodyguards attacks. After decisively chopping through them all, he saw more guards at the end of the corridor. By now, the tenebri were in the room, and had saved the queen. As for the bodyguard, he had killed allies of the state. he saved the queen by allowing friendly bodyguards through. Now was the hour when glorious death embraced him. He smiled. He was going to die, but not alone. He peeled off his body armor which had taken many bullets for him already. He shut the door leading into the Queen's suit and thrust his sword into the door at an angle, thrusting it into the wall.; therefore sealing the door (temporarily, unless some adrenaline pumped dude pulls the sword out). He picked up his gun and emptied all of its rounds at the oncoming bodyguards. Then as they take aim with their assorted weapons, he pulls out a small knife and throws it at a guard, killing him instantly. Without a seconds hesitation, the guards empty their guns on the bodyguard. Bronko Misthailn, Loyal armed servant of the deceased Lord Vineyard Falls to his knees. The guards still firing, Bronko Misthailn falls, face first on the ground. Dead.

Whittier's forces, shocked at the manner in which the govt. of Madagascar has been treating relief workers and oppressing its own people, have begun to reinforce Vineyardian assaults. Brezhnekov has issued a statement that the leader of Madagascar turn himself in to alliance authorities to face charges of crimes against humanity.
Similar corruption has been uncovered in the Seychelles, Comorros and Tanzania. Consequently, the govt. of Tanzania has been formally deposed. Special ops teams are now tracking down the corrupt leaders of the Seychelles and Comorros.
20,000 troops have arrived in Eritrea to provide relief to that nation. Accompanying the troops are 5,000 battle tanks.
--Zagreb News-- Madascar has been conquered, Vineyardian troops and whittier- troops marching through the streets, victorious. Citizens cheered, apparently happy about the takeover. The Finial battle was quick and Bloody. Vineyardian and Whittier- troops fromed up for the attack while Vineyardian artillary pounded enemy positions. When the troops ran screaming and yellign towards the Madascarian troop positions, the madascarian troops surrendered. of course, none could be taken into custady due to the insistance of the Madascar Liberation Front. The Madascar Liberation Front calimed that they were going to rebell once they were released, so all enemy captured troops were executed. A permanate Gov't is being set up, one that is only a mere puppet to Whittier- and Vineyard gov'ts. Madascar is now under the joint control of Whittier- and Vineyard. 800,000 Vineyardian troops departed Madascar to help their Whittier- allies in their other conquests in Seychelles, Comorros and Tanzania. The troops are expected to play a critical role in the securing of and the conquests of these countries.

war does nothing but trash an economy....peace man :p

ooc. Great to see some new players!

***Message for all nations in Earth V***

Warta Endor will begin a large reform in its government and its policies. For now the following things will change:

1. Warta Endor will retreat from Africa as soon as possible.
2. Its military will be reduced, modernized and better trained.
3. A neutral position will be taken in foreign affairs. Only if an ally is directly attacked will it step up for an ally.
4. Elections will be held as soon as possible. This will mean the end of an one party system.
5. The nations with which we have a bad relation (Kopparbergs, Doomingsland) will be contacted to see if relations can be improved.

1-Doomingsland will be contacted to see if a peace can be established. Warta Endor's African possesions may be given to Doomingsland.

2-Warta Endors forces (currently about 12 million active and 5 million reserves) will be reduced to 8 million active and 5 million reserves. More money will be spended in research. The Air Force and Army will be modernized and adjusted to the function of regional power in SE asia.

3-Warta Endor has enough of war in far away places. It will only participate in a war if an ally is directly attacked.

4-The people of Warta Endor aren't very positive about the current communist government. Elections will be held as soon as enough parties have subscribed.

***Telegram to the nation of Doomingsland***

I know the current relations between our two countries aren't good. Warta Endor would like to see it improved. We will retreat from Africa if you agree. You may take control of the african possesions if you let all Warta Endorean forces retreat.

Signed, General Jang

ooc. yup, there was a war, but I was away for a week. As you can see, I'm now going on the peace road:P

Pirates in the Carribean!!!!!!!
Not only are they reaking havoc on coastal shipping, they are extremely dimwitted. One boat armed with 3 8" inch guns tried to knock out an Toyru Class BB!!!! What were these people thinking? All 9 18" inch guns were aimed on the vessel and when the smoke cleared there was only a bit of wood left floating on water. Naval Patrols have been incountering much pirate behavior in the last month. These ships are heavily armed when compared to an unarmed commerical vessel, but the second they step up against a Naval ship, they're done. These pirates are belived to be entering the pacific from northern waters near Mexico.

Pirates in the Carribean!!!!!!!
Not only are they reaking havoc on coastal shipping, they are extremely dimwitted. One boat armed with 3 8" inch guns tried to knock out an Toyru Class BB!!!! What were these people thinking? All 9 18" inch guns were aimed on the vessel and when the smoke cleared there was only a bit of wood left floating on water. Naval Patrols have been incountering much pirate behavior in the last month. These ships are heavily armed when compared to an unarmed commerical vessel, but the second they step up against a Naval ship, they're done. These pirates are belived to be entering the pacific from northern waters near Mexico.

ooc. lol, those pirates aren't very smart:D

ic.
***Telegram to the government of RevertRomance***

We would like to open diplomatic relations with your country. If possible we can exchange ambassadors.

Signed,
Gen. Jang

ooc. lol, those pirates aren't very smart:D

ic.
***Telegram to the government of RevertRomance***

We would like to open diplomatic relations with your country. If possible we can exchange ambassadors.

Signed,
Gen. Jang

We would be honored by an embassy exchanged between our nation, accepted!

And yes these pirates arn't that bright it isnt that they tried to board us it's we simply we ran into them and instead of running they tried to fight back

(We dont let pirates get away we try to arrest them and return them to their nation for an trial, but these pirates had an diffrent plan)

Yakovi Dreft, Premier of Tenebricosis and Chairman of the UFSR, entered the wide hallway leading to his office, the walls of which were draped with large banners depicting his likeness. A long green carpet carpet was unrolled by two servents as he began his march. A long line of soldiers flanked the carpet on either side; they each saluted in turn as the Premier passed them. The Tenebri Patriot's Melody began its flourish with trumpets and violins and seal vocalists, blossoming into the hypnotic tuned which had been specifically designed to instill a patriotic fervor in the hearts of all who had been conditioned to hear it. As the Premier exited through the ornate door at the top of a flight of stairs at the end of the hall, an enormous Tenebri Flag unfurled behind him. It was good to be home.

Dreft entered his private study. He glaced at his rows upon rows of seamonkeys. They appeared to be doing well. One had already grown fangs and was actively trying to escape his small glass prison. Dreft smiled. They would be ready for the seas soon. He sat down at his imposing black marble desk to read the news. Ah, good. The puppet government he had set up in South East Russia had finally asked to be annexed by Tenebricosis. It's about time, it's been nearly a year since the end of the Second Korean War.

What's this? A new panel had been added to his control array while he was at the "peace conference". It consisted of a number pad, an LED display, and a large red button. He liked buttons. Dreft entered his birth year, for fun, and delicately pressed the large, shiney, red ceramic button.

A spring underneath the button gave way to the pressure being applied to it. A strip of metal, only a centimetre long, came in contact with two other pieces of metal only fifty millimetres apart. An electric impulse was sent through a wire which was connected to Pr. Dreft's computer inside his desk. It retrieved a string of numbers and letters which was sent at the speed of light through a series of copper wires to an underground installation in Perm.

A message flashed on one of the many moniters embedded in the Premier's desk. SILO 1983 ACTIVATED. LAUNCH IMMINENT. Every light in the Kremlin shut off simultaniously. A loud, synthesised BEERP filled the room, and red flashing lights replaced the once calm fluorescent glow. The Premier was startled at first, but then red the words on the one lit screen. His face was illuminated by the soft blue radiation of the computer moniter. "Oh, crap."

He frantically searched his desk for the speaker into which he could deliver commands to his advisors. Dreft found the device and wrenched it from its plastic holder. He clicked it on and shouted into the mouthpiece. "This is the Premier! To any and all personnel working for the greater good at Silo 1983, DISABLE THIS MISSILE AS SOON AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE! Whoever is responsible for the successful shutdown of this launch will be made a Hero of the Fedsoc Union!" He replaced the radio transmitter in its clip. His fingers twisted anxiously. This might be the end, he thought. Damn. I forgot to record Adventures of BeanPaste Man.

Silo 1983 was in chaos. They were the silo currently in charge of the Cobalt warhead which had been armed and aimed at the capital of Sharina. Noone knew why the order had come down from the Kremlin to launch, but noone cared. They had new orders, orders which were nearly impossible. The missile was already initiated. It had begun the launch sequence, and it could not be stopped from taking off.

Boris Yashkonitsivych was a nuclear physicist/nuclear weapons expert. His current assignment was Director of Silo 1983 located in an undisclosed location in Perm. His mind was racing, trying to think of a way to stop the missle before it reached the apex of its climn. After that, nothing short of the hand of God could stop it. But, God was against the law, now, he remembered. The hand of Trotsky Incarnate, then.

Boris was seated at the head computer terminal in the monitering station five miles from the actual underground silo. He had almost won a game of Party-Enemy Sweeper when the alert sounded over the PA. LAUNCH CODE ENTERED, LAUNCH IMMINENT. EVACUTE PREMISES. The robotic voice repeated this message over and over again. He couldn't believe it at first. This was not supposed to happen yet, there was no war! But someone at the Kremlin had access to the codes and have sent them here. He looked out the window and to his horror saw the top of a missile rising from the ground. A deep rumble filled the room, shaking everything. The missile gained velocity and left the surface of the earth. It was already half a kilometre in the air before Boris did anything.

He began trying all the default abort codes; none of them worked, the launch had come from the Kremlin. He tryed to access the missile's onboard computer. It was encrypted with a 2048-bit algorithm. There was only one option left. He began typing furiously, trying to remember the correct syntax of the commands he was about to send. He hoped that this one string of text which was now nothing more than a radio oscillation would stop the start of a global thermonuclear conflict.

Two hundred miles from the surface of the earth, still situated directly above Zagreb from before Vineyard had joined the UFSR, the Federal Defense Sattelite began to stir. It had recieved orders to turn towards a missle that was over two thousand miles away and fire a concentrated beam at the fuel compartment. Its thrusters kicked in and it slowly began to turn.

For five short minutes, all across the world, a bright purple streak could be seen in the sky. It was followed shortly by an explosion that ended the city of Perm. One million sacks of flesh formerly known as human beings were converted into hydrogen, and all that remained of the once-great city of Perm were a few scattered ruins of some blackened skyscraper.

To-General Jang
From-Doomingsland Imperial Government

We are pleased you have seen
the futility of resistance in Africa. All
frontline units have been ordered to
stand down to allow Warta Endor forces
to withdraw from Africa. Further mending of relations
may be explored at a later date.

Pirates attack food convoy leaving Martinique

Slowly cruising at 20 knots the 3 Baracuda Class Supplie ships were easy prey for bandits but the day of pirates in the carribean were long gone, that was a thing of the 1600s. This food shipment was going to Uruguay

Suddenly BAM an 5" shell landed right into to the tower in the last ship killing the helmsman and wounding the captain. Having nothing else onboard except for 4, 50 cal. (Located on the Quatermasters deck) They tried to push full speed back towards Martinque.

The fast Pirate boats (at biggest 70') ran up aside the supply ship and fired two more shots into the side of the ship, now taking on water it was forced to stop.

The other two Supply ships opened fired with the machine guns strafing the pirates ship decks, the would be boarding party was either shot or now hiding.

Wounded Captain, "We're beening attacked, we've taken hits and there's a man down get some one out here!"

The pirate ship continued to fire on the other two ships and a direct shot hit a machine gun, killing 3

Far off an Missle Corvette was seen coming full speed out of Martinque and the pirates knew it was too dangerous to proceed. Firing 3 more shots at the supply vessels before leaving, taken nothing except 6 of their own crew dead.


The missle corvette came along side the supply ships and helped escort the damaged one back to an dry dock for repairs, the other two went directly back t oharbor for minor repairs and "refitting".

Total Revertromance dead: 4
Injured: 3

The ships now have a 5 inch gun in the bow that can flip up incase of attack (much like the German Q-Ship) and have an additonal 8 machine guns along each side bringing the number to 20 machine guns a vessel. To help with the new threat each convoy leaving Revertromance will now be escorted by an Hellsing Class BB.

The very next day another 3 ship food convoy leaves for Urugauy, this time with an Hellsing leading the way.

Revertromances shipyards are once again under deadline, to fill an Whittier Naval order.

The Hellsing Class (some plans i tweaked off of an BBs i bought a week ago)

Hellsing-Class


Sponser: Revertromance Naval Shipyards
Displacement Standard Tons: 80,000
Displacement Full Load Tons: 130,000
Design Crew Compliment: 120 officers, 2350 enlisted; 2900 flagship
Main Guns: 18-18"/48 caliber (42,500-yard range with armor-piercing rounds) arranged in 3 guns per turret, 3 turrets forward and aft.
Secondary Guns: 28-8"/48 caliber; 20 QUAD 40mm AA; 75-20mm AA; 8-MK TOMAHAWK ABL's; 40-MK 200 HARPOON; 10-75mm "Igelstellung" CIWS.
Construction cost: 5.5 Billion (USD)
Armor: Maximum thickness 22" at turret face plates. (27 inch (thickess) armor belt)
Length Overall: 1024' 3.14" overall
Mean Draught: 45' 6.14"
Extreme Beam: 135'
Torpedo Tubes: 5 port and starboard, surface; 5 port and starboard, submarine.
Catapults (Optional): 1 aft for 1 submersable mobile suit (not included).
Builder: RevertRomance Naval Dockyards.
Engines Manufactured: M-1 (Revertromance designed) Nuclear Powerplant.
Fuel: enriched Uranium; 20 rods.
Drive: Nuclear; 5 screws.
Designed Speed: 32 knots
Designed Shaft Horsepower: 300,000
Design Comments: Designed as a massive floating artillary platform, capable of ant-air, anti-ship, coastal bombardment, and minimal anti-sub warfare.



Whitter take THESE stats their the right set if you compare them to the original set your see an difference. Regardless i basically used his frame and worked around it and the guns

His order of 20!!!!!! Is nearly the intire output of the Revertromance National Dockyards but thanks to the completion of Guadaloupes Commerical Center,
this oreder could now be met in the 4 years time it takes to build simply one of the Hellsing BBs

(Im building 10 at Guadaloupe's new shipyards, at the same time. And another 10 on Martnique's)

Opon completion these 20 craft (the only 20 in exisistence besides mine) they will be sent to your Carribean nations capital, from there you may do what ever you want them.

Total payment for 20 Hellsing Class BBs= 120 Billion

LOL, this thing is a joke!

I have been designing ships for NS for well over a year and this thing is just far out.

A couple of things:

-Way too much difference between standard and full loads.
- Way Too Light
- 18 18" guns is way out of the question
- Submerged torpedo tubes just result in a hole in the hull
- Beam's way too low; one salve and you can kiss this goodbye.
- With all that armour, you'll barely go anywhere, I guarantee it. And if you've got 22in turret faceplates, then you can forget having any stability at all on a beam of 135 feet.
- With 5 screws you'll get massive canal effect. Anyway, it makes control minus rudders hard.
- Not sure just how you manage to get a ship with that much plating to move with 300,000 SHP, let alone move at 32 knots. That's assuming it hasn't capsized anyway.
- Why the hell there's a catapult is beyond me. Tip: The seaplane's day is over.
- Where the hell are you going to put twenthy-eight 8in?!
- I trust with all those turrets one will atleast be superfiring? Uh-oh, capsized again.
- Why the hell are you using the quad 40mm? That was last seen in WWII?

Pirates attack food convoy leaving Martinique

Slowly cruising at 20 knots the 3 Baracuda Class Supplie ships were easy prey for bandits but the day of pirates in the carribean were long gone, that was a thing of the 1600s. This food shipment was going to Uruguay

Suddenly BAM an 5" shell landed right into to the tower in the last ship killing the helmsman and wounding the captain. Having nothing else onboard except for 4, 50 cal. (Located on the Quatermasters deck) They tried to push full speed back towards Martinque.

The fast Pirate boats (at biggest 70') ran up aside the supply ship and fired two more shots into the side of the ship, now taking on water it was forced to stop.

The other two Supply ships opened fired with the machine guns strafing the pirates ship decks, the would be boarding party was either shot or now hiding.

Wounded Captain, "We're beening attacked, we've taken hits and there's a man down get some one out here!"

The pirate ship continued to fire on the other two ships and a direct shot hit a machine gun, killing 3

Far off an Missle Corvette was seen coming full speed out of Martinque and the pirates knew it was too dangerous to proceed. Firing 3 more shots at the supply vessels before leaving, taken nothing except 6 of their own crew dead.


The missle corvette came along side the supply ships and helped escort the damaged one back to an dry dock for repairs, the other two went directly back t oharbor for minor repairs and "refitting".

Total Revertromance dead: 4
Injured: 3

The ships now have a 5 inch gun in the bow that can flip up incase of attack (much like the German Q-Ship) and have an additonal 8 machine guns along each side bringing the number to 20 machine guns a vessel. To help with the new threat each convoy leaving Revertromance will now be escorted by an Hellsing Class BB.

The very next day another 3 ship food convoy leaves for Urugauy, this time with an Hellsing leading the way.

How do you plan on storeing the ammo for the 5" safely? And how are you planning of makeing this thing pop up, and how will it be stable when poped up? The gun will have recoil you know.

How do you plan on storeing the ammo for the 5" safely? And how are you planning of makeing this thing pop up, and how will it be stable when poped up? The gun will have recoil you know.

hey the q-shiped worked and thats all i really know so im basicing the the small 5 inch on those designs, as far as poping up/ hydrolic, storing ammo/im not a warship i only need to store a couple (20 rounds) in the tower, recoil/ its the same as on a warship

hey the q-shiped worked and thats all i really know so im basicing the the small 5 inch on those designs, as far as poping up/ hydrolic, storing ammo/im not a warship i only need to store a couple (20 rounds) in the tower, recoil/ its the same as on a warship
i belive the Q-Ship was a british anti- german sub ship. It wasn't german, it was british. Get your facts straight.

Also, the only reason those damn weak ships worked is because german subs surfaced after they hit the vessel, either to board and loot, or to simply finish off with surface gun. Usintg these against your "Pirates" won't do you any good since they appear to attack ships automatically. No sense hiding the damn gun then!

LOL, this thing is a joke!

I have been designing ships for NS for well over a year and this thing is just far out.

A couple of things:

-Way too much difference between standard and full loads.
- Way Too Light
- 18 18" guns is way out of the question
- Submerged torpedo tubes just result in a hole in the hull
- Beam's way too low; one salve and you can kiss this goodbye.
- With all that armour, you'll barely go anywhere, I guarantee it. And if you've got 22in turret faceplates, then you can forget having any stability at all on a beam of 135 feet.
- With 5 screws you'll get massive canal effect. Anyway, it makes control minus rudders hard.
- Not sure just how you manage to get a ship with that much plating to move with 300,000 SHP, let alone move at 32 knots. That's assuming it hasn't capsized anyway.
- Why the hell there's a catapult is beyond me. Tip: The seaplane's day is over.
- Where the hell are you going to put twenthy-eight 8in?!
- I trust with all those turrets one will atleast be superfiring? Uh-oh, capsized again.
- Why the hell are you using the quad 40mm? That was last seen in WWII?


We do NOT recommend Whittier- purchace ships from this loon(Revetroromance). We are willing to supply your ship needs for free. Speaking of which...

-IC- 10, Huge but Beautifully crafted Vineyardian battle ships sailed from jamica, manned by small skeleton Vineyard crews. The ships are bound for iran and are a gift to the Whittier- gov't.

We do NOT recommend Whittier- purchace ships from this loon(Revetroromance). We are willing to supply your ship needs for free. Speaking of which...

-IC- 10, Huge but Beautifully crafted Vineyardian battle ships sailed from jamica, manned by small skeleton Vineyard crews. The ships are bound for iran and are a gift to the Whittier- gov't.

hell im not the one who designed it im just selling it and how is that thing gonna capzise with a beam that wide
i have a couple in my navy and hold on a second while i take your consideration into the plans

Hellsing-Class


Sponser: Revertromance Naval Shipyards
Displacement Standard Tons: 80,000
Displacement Full Load Tons: 130,000
Design Crew Compliment: 120 officers, 2350 enlisted; 2900 flagship
Main Guns: 9-18"/48 caliber (42,500-yard range with armor-piercing rounds) arranged in 2 guns bow, 1 aft
Secondary Guns: 17-8"/48 caliber; 20 QUAD 40mm AA; 75-20mm AA; 8-MK TOMAHAWK ABL's; 40-MK 200 HARPOON; .
Construction cost: 5.5 Billion (USD)
Armor: Maximum thickness 17" at turret face plates. (24 inch (thickess) armor belt)
Length Overall: 1024' 3.14" overall
Mean Draught: 30' 6.14"
Extreme Beam: 165'
Torpedo Tubes: 5 port and starboard, surface.
Builder: RevertRomance Naval Dockyards.
Engines Manufactured: M-1 (Revertromance designed) Nuclear Powerplant.
Fuel: enriched Uranium; 20 rods.
Drive: Nuclear; 3 screws.
Designed Speed: 32 knots
Designed Shaft Horsepower: 500,000
Design Comments: Designed as a massive floating artillary platform, capable of ant-air, anti-ship, coastal bombardment, and minimal anti-sub warfare.

there does that meet your requirements for a feasable ship considering your putting 6 billion USd into it, again pyhsosics shiyards the one who gave me the rights and no, i never thought of changing them

EDIT to your order Whittier these are what is goin got end up in your asernal in 2 more days

Warta Endor will begin a large reform in its government and its policies. For now the following things will change:

1. Warta Endor will retreat from Africa as soon as possible.
2. Its military will be reduced, modernized and better trained.
3. A neutral position will be taken in foreign affairs. Only if an ally is directly attacked will it step up for an ally.
4. Elections will be held as soon as possible. This will mean the end of an one party system.
5. The nations with which we have a bad relation (Kopparbergs, Doomingsland) will be contacted to see if relations can be improved.

The Kingdom of Kopparbergs are satisfied with the recent actions taken by Warta Endor, and the actions that will come in the near future.

We will order our troops to hold their fire, and let the Warta Endorian troops leave their holdings in Africa.

We can see that the relations between our countries may improve in the future.

King Carl Oscar V
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Cyprus

Daily report to Kopparbergs High Command from the fronts at Cyprus:

We have been very successful with the campaign in Cyprus. Thanks to the attacks made by Doomingsland, the Cypriote Air Force is heavily reduced. We have met very little resistance in the air, so the bombings of the Cypriote bases has been done by the book.

Both of the airports (Nicosia and Larnaca) were captured after only two days of fighting. We have already received reinforcement troops from Algeria to the airports.

The northern front has reached the city limits of Nicosia, and the capital will be entered later today. The peninsula to the northeast is fully controlled by our troops, and a camp is set up outside the village of Rizocarpaso.

General Andersson

Castle of Argentina, Buenos Aires, Argentina

"What do you mean??"

"Exactly what I'm saying. We don't need Ecuador. Our interest is not in the Pacific area, and that tiny little country only cost us a lot of money to maintain. The taxes collected there does not cover the maintain cost. I'm going to sell that country to someone." said the king.

"Oh, boy. What should we do with the people living there?"

"They can move to Argentina or stay there, it's up to them. Put that country up for sale now!"

"OK, will do..."

Hellsing-Class


Sponser: Revertromance Naval Shipyards
Displacement Standard Tons: 80,000
Displacement Full Load Tons: 130,000
Design Crew Compliment: 120 officers, 2350 enlisted; 2900 flagship
Main Guns: 9-18"/48 caliber (42,500-yard range with armor-piercing rounds) arranged in 2 guns bow, 1 aft
Secondary Guns: 17-8"/48 caliber; 20 QUAD 40mm AA; 75-20mm AA; 8-MK TOMAHAWK ABL's; 40-MK 200 HARPOON; .
Construction cost: 5.5 Billion (USD)
Armor: Maximum thickness 17" at turret face plates. (24 inch (thickess) armor belt)
Length Overall: 1024' 3.14" overall
Mean Draught: 30' 6.14"
Extreme Beam: 165'
Torpedo Tubes: 5 port and starboard, surface.
Builder: RevertRomance Naval Dockyards.
Engines Manufactured: M-1 (Revertromance designed) Nuclear Powerplant.
Fuel: enriched Uranium; 20 rods.
Drive: Nuclear; 3 screws.
Designed Speed: 32 knots
Designed Shaft Horsepower: 500,000
Design Comments: Designed as a massive floating artillary platform, capable of ant-air, anti-ship, coastal bombardment, and minimal anti-sub warfare.

there does that meet your requirements for a feasable ship considering your putting 6 billion USd into it, again pyhsosics shiyards the one who gave me the rights and no, i never thought of changing them

EDIT to your order Whittier these are what is goin got end up in your asernal in 2 more days

I'll go by whatever you guys decide are the stats for the ships.

I'll go by whatever you guys decide are the stats for the ships.

Well so i dont get myself ignored for selling you an "loonish" ship id say go with the stats i just gave (the one with 9 guns) :rolleyes: (everyone makes mistakes)

Castle of Argentina, Buenos Aires, Argentina

"What do you mean??"

"Exactly what I'm saying. We don't need Ecuador. Our interest is not in the Pacific area, and that tiny little country only cost us a lot of money to maintain. The taxes collected there does not cover the maintain cost. I'm going to sell that country to someone." said the king.

"Oh, boy. What should we do with the people living there?"

"They can move to Argentina or stay there, it's up to them. Put that country up for sale now!"

"OK, will do..."

Secret Communication to Kopparbergs

Dear Sirs:
It is our understanding that you are desirous of ridding yourself of the headache of governance in Ecuador. We are willing to assist you in this effort and would be willing to offer you the sum of $600 billion to assist you in your efforts and the relocation of citizens who wish to leave. We can also assure any of your citizens that desire to stay that they will be afforded the full rights and protections of a citizen of Mauiwowee once we take over.

Sincerely,
King 'Lude II

OOC: in other words, I bid $600 Billion for Ecuador.

Castle of Argentina, Buenos Aires, Argentina

"What do you mean??"

"Exactly what I'm saying. We don't need Ecuador. Our interest is not in the Pacific area, and that tiny little country only cost us a lot of money to maintain. The taxes collected there does not cover the maintain cost. I'm going to sell that country to someone." said the king.

"Oh, boy. What should we do with the people living there?"

"They can move to Argentina or stay there, it's up to them. Put that country up for sale now!"

"OK, will do..."
In Light of this event, the Noble Nation of Vineyard would like to purchace the country of Equador. We have been looking to expand our empire by peaceful means and this seems like a great oppurtunity. Therefore, we would too like to bid 600 billion and offer exclusive oil contracts with the kingdom of koppersbergs as a bonus.

-Bronimir Vineyard, Lord Vineyard II

Castle of Argentina, Buenos Aires, Argentina

"What do you mean??"

"Exactly what I'm saying. We don't need Ecuador. Our interest is not in the Pacific area, and that tiny little country only cost us a lot of money to maintain. The taxes collected there does not cover the maintain cost. I'm going to sell that country to someone." said the king.

"Oh, boy. What should we do with the people living there?"

"They can move to Argentina or stay there, it's up to them. Put that country up for sale now!"

"OK, will do..."

"Sire, Kopparsberg is offering to sell the control of Ecuador."

"What? He's selling it?"

"Yes Sire, and I advise we make an offer. The ability to expand our holdings out of Peru into Ecuador without war is an opportunity we should not pass up."

"Who are we likely to be bidding against?"

"Mauiwowee is likely to bid so as to get access to the Pacific from South America. Vineyard has apparantly made an offer as well."

"Hmm, money we can offer, but would sweeten the deal I wonder - some kind of bonus. Kopparsberg already has an outstanding oil and gas deal with us through S.H.I.T."

"How about a military base?"

"That's a good idea, I wonder what else we can through in there though? I got it, an exclusive agricultural contract for products out of North America - We've got wheat, corn, cotton, soybeans and rice aplenty their - we can supply him with food for his citizens and livestock as well as cotton for his textile industry on top of the oil and gas he already gets and a military base."

"I like it sir, we need to make an offer he can't refuse money wise though, we don't want to get out bid."

"Agreed, how about a trillion dollars, that's probably more than its worth and it will take a while to recoup our investment, but I think it would good in the long run."

"I like it sire."

::: turning to keyboard :::

To the Eminent ruler of Kopparsberg:

Dear sir:

We note your offer to sell Ecuador with great interest, as the holders of Peru, a neighboring state, we take very seriously the idea of who will control Ecuador. We were quite pleased with your governance of the area, but understand your desire to pull out at this time. We are therefore willing to offer you the sum of $1 Trillion for Ecuador. We will also permit you to maintain a military base there if you so desire. As an added bonus, we are willing to negotiate significant trade deals for agricultural products we produce in North America such as wheat, corn, soybeans, rice, cotton, etc. on top of our already favorable oil and gas deal arranged through S.H.I.T.
If the offer is of interest to you, please let us know and we'll send a team to discuss terms of the agricultural deal and make arrangements for the immediate transfer of the funds.

Sincerely,
Duke Huey P. Long III
Norleans

Telegram to the nation of Doomingsland

We are pleased about the news of a cease fire. My troops and equipment will move towards the cities of Dakar, Bissau and Banjul to be shipped to SE asia. We hope relations will improve over time.

***Telegram to RevretRomance***

We will send Dr. Dongast to...(what's you island???) after we get a reply. We will welcome your ambassador with all regards and ceremony. (maybe we can RP the arrivals)

(both) signed, General Jang

WENN 8pm news

People in Warta Endor have reacted happily at the news of the reforms of the government. At the news of the retreat from Africa the public reacted like this:

"Have you heared about the retreat from Africa?"
"Yeah, and I'm damn well happy about it. It cost us more than it produced."

"Warta Endor retreats from Africa, do you have everything to say about it?"
"Well, its the end of a "colonial" empire, but it cost a lot, more than it produced."

"Excuse me, may I ask you a question?"
"Wat? Ik begrijp je niet! Wat? Ahhh, flikker op:P"
"Euh, I'm sorry."

With us in the studio is Gen. Bustestas of the Staff. General, do you have anything to say?
"Well, as quite a few already said, Warta Endorean Africa cost more than it produced. We already had a short war with Kopparbergs over it, and devolopment of the region wasn't going according the plan."
Will this be the end of Warta Endorean imperialist desires?
"Well, that depends on who wins the elections."
Yes, as in other news, so far four parties have entered the run for president. The Communist Party of Warta Endor, The Socialist of Warta Endor, Liberals United and the Imperialist party. More news will come after the break...

ooc. Any preference for a party??? And Mauiwowee, did you receive my TG.

(There still is too much difference in the standard and full-load weights. Either tone the full-load down, or up the standard weight.

To Wartna:

Revertromance now has,
Martinque (Capital)
Guadaloupe
St Locia
Dominica
Uruguay
St. Vincent and the Grenadines

Most of our government is placed on the island Martinque, and that is were your embassy is (as well as all the others i've exchanged embassys with)

We look forward to opening other diplomatic relationships with the other countries out there as well!

And yeah if you started a thread about the exchanging of embassys that be fun

(There still is too much difference in the standard and full-load weights. Either tone the full-load down, or up the standard weight.

fine fine (thanks for the help making this ship "feasable"

Hellsing-Class


Sponser: Revertromance Naval Shipyards
Displacement Standard Tons: 100,000
Displacement Full Load Tons: 130,000
Design Crew Compliment: 120 officers, 2350 enlisted; 2900 flagship
Main Guns: 9-18"/48 caliber (42,500-yard range with armor-piercing rounds) arranged in 2 guns bow, 1 aft
Secondary Guns: 17-8"/48 caliber; 20 QUAD 40mm AA; 75-20mm AA; 8-MK TOMAHAWK ABL's; 40-MK 200 HARPOON; .
Construction cost: 5.5 Billion (USD)
Armor: Maximum thickness 20" at turret face plates. (24 inch (thickess) armor belt)
Length Overall: 1024' 3.14" overall
Mean Draught: 35' 6.14"
Extreme Beam: 155'
Torpedo Tubes: 5 port and starboard, surface.
Builder: RevertRomance Naval Dockyards.
Engines Manufactured: M-1 (Revertromance designed) Nuclear Powerplant.
Fuel: enriched Uranium; 20 rods.
Drive: Nuclear; 3 screws.
Designed Speed: 32 knots
Designed Shaft Horsepower: 500,000
Design Comments: Designed as a massive floating artillary platform, capable of ant-air, anti-ship, coastal bombardment, and minimal anti-sub warfare.

that leaves an diffrent of 30,000 tons (ammunition, people,food/supplies, more ammunition)

Whittier your ships have been completed on time and are on your way to your closest Carribean harbor

The total price of 120 B for 20 Hellsing BB

Hellsing-Class


Sponser: Revertromance Naval Shipyards
Displacement Standard Tons: 100,000
Displacement Full Load Tons: 130,000
Design Crew Compliment: 120 officers, 2350 enlisted; 2900 flagship
Main Guns: 9-18"/48 caliber (42,500-yard range with armor-piercing rounds) arranged in 2 guns bow, 1 aft
Secondary Guns: 17-8"/48 caliber; 20 QUAD 40mm AA; 75-20mm AA; 8-MK TOMAHAWK ABL's; 40-MK 200 Anti-Air Missles .
Construction cost: 5.5 Billion (USD)
Armor: Maximum thickness 20" at turret face plates. (24 inch (thickess) armor belt)
Length Overall: 1024' 3.14" overall
Mean Draught: 28' 6.14"
Extreme Beam: 155'
Torpedo Tubes: 5 port and starboard, surface.
Builder: RevertRomance Naval Dockyards.
Engines Manufactured:3 M-1 (Revertromance designed) Nuclear Powerplant.
Fuel: enriched Uranium; 20 rods.
Drive: Nuclear; 3 screws.
Designed Speed: 32 knots
Designed Shaft Horsepower: 800,000 (total)
Design Comments: Designed as a massive floating artillary platform, capable of ant-air, anti-ship, coastal bombardment, and minimal anti-sub warfare.

(final stats, im not changing them again people, accept it, its big )

Glad we could constuct these ships for you and your navy

(sorry if your confused with all the changes in stats lately)

(Dont come crying to me when 1 aircraft can take this thing out almost unhindered)

(Dont come crying to me when 1 aircraft can take this thing out almost unhindered)

a single aircraft could take out the doujin!!!! ANY airstrike could take out ANY ship (reasons for quad 40mm (20) so i doudt a signal plane is going to sink this)

besides the BB does have its air defense, so lets drop the BB debate its already in exsistence and Whittier has 20 of them, i have a few as well (50) there 70% of my Navy and i would be damned if a single aircraft can sink it

a single aircraft could take out the doujin!!!! ANY airstrike could take out ANY ship (reasons for quad 40mm (20) so i doudt a signal plane is going to sink this)

besides the BB does have its air defense, so lets drop the BB debate its already in exsistence and Whittier has 20 of them, i have a few as well (50) there 70% of my Navy and i would be damned if a single aircraft can sink it

The quad-40mm's are the reason it is so weak. You'll be lucky if you chould hit a helio with those. Ever think there was a reason that it was phased out of existance?

The quad-40mm's are the reason it is so weak. You'll be lucky if you chould hit a helio with those. Ever think there was a reason that it was phased out of existance?

no there are missles too if you kept reading

but beside the point i have noticed that we do not have an Embassy Exchange, would you like to open up deplomatic relations between our two governments, Would you except an embassy exchange?

OFFICIAL CONCORDIAT STATEMENT


The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway had announced its intenion to renconquer Switzerland and gives Jonothana 1 week to completely evacuate all millitary personelle before the might of the Wirrwayan millitary lays it's forces to waste and takes back what is rightfully part of the Concordiat.

Totally ilrelavant to earth v BUT

NEW ANIME!!!!!

Xenosage episode 1: status/ downloading 30 kb/s

I have NO idea what it is about but anime-krave had it on there forum page so..

Anyone else like anime or manga....and no im talking about DBZ or ANY DB

I hate DB

Back.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378147&page=2&pp=15

OOC:

Anybody know what's happening with the Earth V Rome: Total War battle?

If Vineyard does not reinstall his game, then we will all have to install the "Realism" mod, because this problem caused the walls to still be standing (the onagers must of been affected by the mod) and the whole game to be screwed-up past that point. ;)

OOC:

Anybody know what's happening with the Earth V Rome: Total War battle?

If Vineyard does not reinstall his game, then we will all have to install the "Realism" mod, because this problem caused the walls to still be standing (the onagers must of been affected by the mod) and the whole game to be screwed-up past that point. ;)

whats earth V Rome: Total War Battle?

whats earth V Rome: Total War Battle?

Rome: Total War is a game.

Earth V Rome: Total War is the battle we are planning:

Vineyard (Roman Julli Family) and The Great Sixth Reich (Greece or Germania)

vs

Doomingsland and Jonothana.

Whittier announces its intention to annex the impoverished lands of the Seychelles, Comorros, Tanzania, and Eritrea.
Having eliminated the resistance with light casualties (34,560) we believe this to be the most efficient way to bring law and civilization to the people of these African lands.

OOC:

Anybody know what's happening with the Earth V Rome: Total War battle?

If Vineyard does not reinstall his game, then we will all have to install the "Realism" mod, because this problem caused the walls to still be standing (the onagers must of been affected by the mod) and the whole game to be screwed-up past that point. ;)
It COULD be my Mod of Rome:total realsim and mabye because of a little tampering by me (hehe) But it has never happened to me before. I never use realism units against normal players, and it has always worked out fine. I just can't help but notice that both of the 2 times i played you, it happened. Go figure.

OOC:

Anybody know what's happening with the Earth V Rome: Total War battle?

If Vineyard does not reinstall his game, then we will all have to install the "Realism" mod, because this problem caused the walls to still be standing (the onagers must of been affected by the mod) and the whole game to be screwed-up past that point. ;)
Which version? I've got 5.0 installed now.

I just installed Verson 5.0 right now, so the only person left is Jonothana.

Vineyard: I think it was that I selected "Huge" unit scale both times. That requires creates a lot of stress on both of our computers, and beseiging an "Epic City" and making a sea of flames just furthers the stress.

I just installed Verson 5.0 right now, so the only person left is Jonothana.

Vineyard: I think it was that I selected "Huge" unit scale both times. That requires creates a lot of stress on both of our computers, and beseiging an "Epic City" and making a sea of flames just furthers the stress.

would they have that game at like walmart?

And i was over if Africa for like a week giving aid to Cameroon so ill just go a step further and annex it

I just installed Verson 5.0 right now, so the only person left is Jonothana.

Vineyard: I think it was that I selected "Huge" unit scale both times. That requires creates a lot of stress on both of our computers, and beseiging an "Epic City" and making a sea of flames just furthers the stress.
eh, i was wondering why the multiplayer game wasn't lagging when i set that city on fire. Oh well.

Some invasions and conquests i want you to reconize:
-Madascar
-Asencion.

Cameroon, yet again the Revertromance lands on its beaches. But this time it's diffrent they had not landed with the intent of helping the country, rather taking it. The new government had failed to reach export quotas the last 2 years and it our turn to step in again. Obivously these peopel can't govern themselves, so Revertromance will do it for them

5,000 Troops landed on the beach and started towards the capital, NO resistance since the African nation is now used to Revertromance government (from the Aid missions) and egerly awaits it's annexation as an Revertromance state.

(OOC: if you could add this to the map page ASAP i'd appreicate it, just so i know you guys approve of Cameroon Annexation)

ok ok i know i said the last stats were final but i believe i finally got it

Hellsing-Class


Sponser: Revertromance Naval Shipyards
Displacement Standard Tons: 100,000
Displacement Full Load Tons: 130,000
Design Crew Compliment: 120 officers, 2350 enlisted; 2900 flagship
Main Guns: 9-18"/48 caliber (42,500-yard range with armor-piercing rounds) arranged in 2 guns bow, 1 aft
Secondary Guns: 17-8"/48 caliber; 20 QUAD 40mm AA; 75-20mm AA; 8-MK TOMAHAWK ABL's; 40-MK 200 HARPOON Anti-Air .
Construction cost: 5.5 Billion (USD)
Armor: Maximum thickness 17" at turret face plates. (24 inch (thickess) armor belt)
Length Overall: 1024' 3.14" overall
Mean Draught: 27' 6.14"
Extreme Beam: 155'
Torpedo Tubes: 5 port and starboard, surface.
Builder: RevertRomance Naval Dockyards.
Engines Manufactured: 3 M-1 (Revertromance designed) Nuclear Powerplant.
Fuel: enriched Uranium; 20 rods.
Drive: Nuclear; 3 screws.
Designed Speed: 32 knots
Designed Shaft Horsepower: 800,000
Design Comments: Designed as a massive floating artillary platform, capable of ant-air, anti-ship, coastal bombardment, and minimal anti-sub warfare.



THERE finally got it right i was having problems with the draft but i believe i got that correct due to fact that this thing is maga-wide

Whittier use THESE stats :rolleyes: yeah i know that ive given you like 5 stats sheets but THIS is it

would they have that game at like walmart?

And i was over if Africa for like a week giving aid to Cameroon so ill just go a step further and annex it
Should be at walmart.

Secret and Encrypted Communique' to Warta Endor

Dear sirs:

We note the restructuring of your government and the withdrawal of your forces from Africa and the end of hostilities with Doomingsland and Kopparbergs with a touch of both sorrow and approval. In order to lessen the blow to your people in terms of lost territory and land for expansion, if you would grant full and complete ownership to us of the Halmahera Island grouping as per the map below, we would be willing to forego any and all claims to the remainder of Indonesia. We have troops in Borneo and other of the islands, but will withdraw them upon the arrival of your troops in the area. Also, as a friend and ally, we would be more than willing to permit you to establish a military base in the Halmahera Island group to ensure that your ability to control Indonesia in it's entirety is secured. We merely wish to establish this island as an extension of Mauiwowee. If this arrangement is satisfactory to you, please let us know so that we might prepare our troops to withdraw upon your arrival in the area.

Sincerely,
His Royal Highness,
King 'Lude II
Mauiwowee

MAP

http://img119.exs.cx/img119/1078/indonesia0co.jpg

Imperial News Network

As Warta Endoran forces retreat from Africa, Imperial forces are moving in to secure the Empire's new holdings. The High Command speculates that, if Warta Endoran forces withdraw on scedual, their former African holdings will be firmly in Imperial control in under a week.

Totally ilrelavant to earth v BUT

NEW ANIME!!!!!

Xenosage episode 1: status/ downloading 30 kb/s

I have NO idea what it is about but anime-krave had it on there forum page so..

Anyone else like anime or manga....and no im talking about DBZ or ANY DB

I hate DB


That show is the FT's dream show its an rip off of gumdum wing with more facts behind it and it has EVERY eapon in the FT arsenal, it also has a bit of halo tech

OOC: I've got more to do, but I'm tired and need to do some RL shit. Here's a preview though of things to come. I'll get back to Robert tommorrow.

Steve

Steve was the "ace-in-the-hole," the trump card, the guarantee of success for General Sun, or so General Sun believed. Steve (his given name was Steven, but he preferred "Steve") had grown up in Brisbane, in sight of one of W.M.D., Inc.'s largest factories. At age 16 he had gotten a job there as an errand boy. Somehow he had come to the attention of General Ripper, who had a keen eye for military talent, and upon his mandatory enlistment into Mauiwowee's military, had immediately been offered special services training. Being unsure what he wanted to do with his life, Steve had accepted and found that he was well suited to special ops. He had decided to make the military his career. It couldn't hurt, he had thought, plus, who knew what benefits could come his way with General Ripper on his side.
*************************************************************

Steve was 6'0" tall. A blonde, blue-eyed surfer. He was strong, but not burley or "Samoan built" as he liked to call it. He held black belts in Krav Magna, Kung Fu and Karate. He had obtained a degree in mechanical engineering, with a specialty in weapons design and knew everything there was to know about personal and small arms, from trigger pull stats in terms of pounds-per-square-inch on a "Saturday Night Special" to rate of fire on a Thompson Sub-Machine Gun to electronic fire control requirements for case-less ammo in a Mauiwoweean produced .40 S&W caliber machine-pistol. He was fluent in Russian, German, English, French and Spanish. His idea of fun was to strip down, to their bare component pieces, 5 or 6 different types of guns, mix all the pieces up in a box and then see how fast he could rebuild them all. Kind of like mixing the pieces for 3 or 4 jigsaw puzzles up with each other and then putting each puzzle together by drawing pieces at random from the pile. Steve had a weakness though, a weakness that had not gone unnoticed by important people; money and women. Steve ran through them both the way chili runs through the intestines of a person with dysentary. He had been known to blow an entire month's pay in one night with a high priced call girl or max out his credit cards on the latest technological toys. It was this weakness that General Sun had thought to exploit.
*************************************************************

Steve remembered that night on Christmas Island's beach well. They had come ashore, the spotlights came on, people began firing at them. Here, though, his memory diverged from his comrades. He remembered being cut off from the boats by other troops. He remembered the surrender of the unit to their captors. He remembered everyone being bound and "escorted" (or in the case of Robert, Paul and Bobby, being carried after being knocked out) to waiting Hummers and being transported to a hospital: A hospital that went as far beneath the ground as its floors rose above it. He remembered, he remembered it all. The conversations with General Sun, the promise of money and all the women he could ever hope to bed. He knew where the white room was. He had watched his unit get injected with various psychotropic and hypnotic drugs. He had observed them being given hypnotic trainings and suggestions. He knew what had happened to his unit, he had participated. He had winced when Paul and Toshes were killed. He had smiled at the strangulation of the old lady. He had enjoyed the way Daniel's attempted escape had befuddled the doctors and scientists who were running the biological computer program for General Sun. He knew everything, and more.

Pirates attack Mercant shipping off Uruguay

An unescorted group of ships carrying computer processing parts to Martinque was shot at instantly and an boat was sited at bearing (may have got it mixed with mark not sure let it slide) 35. The 5 inch was now installed on all mercant vessels and it was immedaitely uncovered. The pirate ship was surprised but kept speeding towards the convoy.
"Smoke that bicth!", Captain

BOOM

The 5 inch shell landed nowere near the pirate ship but splashed a bit of water on the engaging pirates. Still engaging the pirates let loose another round that smashed into the side of the boat, this time the sailors reached for the new machine guns and let loose a couple rounds (noneffiective) The pirates fired another round (now at 200 meters) which speed past the tower of the ship and landed safely behind the convoy.

Out of weapons and ideas the 5 inch fired again, and yet again missed. More machine fire but this was met by an enemy shell landing right in the middle of the deck killing a few.

Now on fire the ship feel prey to the pirates while the remaining ships (full speed) had started speeding away, towards Martinque.


The pirates boarded the enemy vessel and had nothing to do with the remaining crew (20), they were thrown overboard and started swimming when

PIN PING PING

They were shot in the water with the on-deck machine guns

Fully retreating the other remaining vessels let loose a couple shots but only one actually hit the fast moving pirate boat, blowing an hole in the side and ending the chase. However that damn vessel did not sink.

An intire ship worth of Pentium 4 3.4 ghz processors, heatsink/fans and etc. other computer technology were lost to pirate activity, total amount lost: millions

Two days later the remaining ships from the convoy entered harbor and told government officals of their encounters with the bandits, they seem to be the same "group" from the last attacks


(OOC: there guys; even though they're an 5 inch on the ship, in rolling seas, hitting an fast moving target is near impossible for an il-train crew

And Q-ship IS British......hum must of forgot, getting my facts striatgh

Castle of Argentina, Buenos Aires, Argentina

The king was in a briefing with the Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Åke Stålhandske, about the issue to sell of Ecuador.

"Sir, we have got three bids on the sale of Ecuador." said Stålhandske.

"Okay, I thought that we should have at least ten bids, ha ha!" replied the king. He was in a very good mode today. "Tell me more!"

"First we have a bid from Mauiwowee. They offer us $600 billion and assistance with relocation of the citizens who wants to move to Argentina."

"Hmm… okay, and next?"

"Well… I don't know if I should take this for serious, but Vineyard has made a bid." said Stålhandske with a low voice.

"Why are you whispering? Tell me the bid."

"Okay, they too are ready to pay $600 billion. And a exclusive oil contract as a bonus."

"Hmm… sounds interesting. And what's the third bid?"

"It's Norleans, the southern neighbor to Ecuad…" The king interrupted Stålhandske.

"Don't tell me who our neighbors are! Do you think I'm a fool? Of course I know who my neighbors are!! Now, continue, how much will they pay for Ecuador?" said Carl Oscar with a fast hard voice. The good mode was gone.

"I'm sorry sir. They are willing to pay us $1 trillion for Ecuador. And we can have a military base in Ecuador if we want to. As a bonus we can have very good delivery contracts on agricultural products from Norleans holdings in North America. I recommend you to take this bid, sir. It's very good, and we get a lot of money, more than I expected."

"I have to think about this. As I see now Mauiwowee won't get Ecuador. It may be either Vineyard or Norleans."

"Okay, but why are you considering Vineyard's offer? Norleans' bid is much better, sir." Stålhandske was trying to understand the king, which was not an easy thing to do sometimes.

"You said it yourself, a good oil contract. And I have another thing in my pocket. I may want to sell this to Vineyard out of other reasons that you're not aware of. Let me know immediately if we get another bid on Ecuador, otherwise I will let you know my decision later today."

"Okay, thank you sir." said Stålhandske and leaved the room.

Cyprus

Daily report to Kopparbergs High Command from the fronts at Cyprus:

General, I'm very pleased to tell you that we now control everything to the north and to the east of Nicosia. We don't have the city in our hands yet, but I expect it to fall in one or two days.

We have had bigger losses today. Due to a counter strike we lost 18 Apaches in a missile attack. We didn't expect them to attack the camp outside the airport in Larnaca. We have raised the defense around both airports now, and we have placed five Patriot PAC-3 systems around each airport. In the attack we lost 180 men too.

As we now control the whole northern area, I suggest that we continue with the next phase in about three days.

General Andersson

Revertromance Sercret Transmition

(OOC: This is so that everyone who has helped though their comments/critizisms
can see the Hellsing Class BB in action)

"Sir, we finally no where atleast of ONE of the Carribean pirate hangouts are located, do you want the location Leutendient!", Some random radio operator

"Of course i do, and while your at it, give it HBS (Hellsing Battle Ship) Hurricane.
They can have their first combat experiments with the Hellsing and the milatary can have their first analsysis of the vessel! It an win-win, even if the ship is destroyed", Leutendient

"Um.............k" Random radio operator, "HBS Hurricane come in......Hurricane, come in........". Random radio operator

"HBS Hurricane, what do you want, sir" Hurricane's radio operator

"We have an pirate "base", it contains over 20 vessels hidden in an Lagoon, near Mexico. We want you to go after if and destroy EVERYTHING." Random radio operator

"Were heading towards the corrindates immediatly, and will engage hostile parties" HBS Hurricane radio operator




2 days later near the lagoon: (Mexico isn't that far from my island claims)

"This is Hurricane we are outside the lagoon, luckily we've determined through our charts that our draft is shallow enough to let us pass" radio operator

(if it was 45 FT. like pysoicotic shipyards had orignally planed this would be impossible)


(OOC: im kinda tired and i got school tomorrow ill finish Rping the battle after school, maybe before school it depends, i might even have an snow day tomorrow at the rate the snow is coming down)

OOC: Nobody's reacting, so I assume you haven't read this:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=368217&page=151&pp=15

*** Press Release ***

Today the nation of Norleans announced the consolidation of all state run oil and gas companies under the new name of "Norleans Offshore Oil & Gas Exploration and Extraction Systems, Inc. (NOOGEES, Inc.). This merger brings together the 2 most powerful oil producing regions in the southern portion of North America and encompasses the bulk of all offshore oil production in the Gulf of Mexico as well as the extensive oil fields of Texas and Oklahoma. The complete merger of their respective production will result in a company that is pumping approximately 5,533,260 barrels of oil per day and an estimated 24,657,840,000 cubic feet of natural gas per day. With substantial reserves still to be tapped, NOOGEES stands to be one of the most powerful corporations on Earth V to date. Luckily for Earth V, Norleans is ruled by democratic methods and is generally friendly to the free world. With estimated net profits of $25,663,698,672.00/year from its oil production alone (estimates on natural gas production profits were not available at the time of the report), the impact on the economies of the Southern Half of the North American Continent, Norleans and their S.H.I.T. allies cannot be underestimated. Norleans has announed its intent to offer stock in the company and is currently selling crude for $40.00/barrel on the open market and at a reduced price to her S.H.I.T. allies. Since the company is state run and owned and can hence avoid significant taxes and government restriction, epxert analysts estimate the company has a 31% net profit margin making it an outstanding investment opportunity when its IPO is announced in the near future.
To celebrate the launch of the new company, Duke Huey P. Long, III of Norleans announced today a one time gift of an entire day's production of oil to each and every member of S.H.I.T., and announced an offer extending a seat on the board of directors to it's closest geographic allies, Kopparbergs, Sharina, Lachenburg and Fodmodmadtol, was in the works.

President Rand Veristek read the latest international news on his flat screen display on his maghony table in his office at a undisclosed location. He smiled when he read an article.

Ecuador. Excellent.

Rand put in several commands, and a display came up presenting Sharina's current budget and surplus. Rand nodded as he read it, apparently satisfied with the numbers.

He opened his communications program, and began talking into the microphone to create his message to the nation of Kopparbergs.

This device is a wonder. I'm quite glad I had it installed.

After an indeterminate period of time, the message was completed. Rand took a deep breath, and began inputting commands to begin the process of sending the message to Kopparbergs.

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To the esteemed leaders of Kopparbergs,

Greetings, friends. It has come to my attention that you are selling Ecuador, and holding an auction for it. If it is not too late for Sharina to bid, then I would like to add Sharina's bid on Ecaudor, along with some additional incentives.

Here is the starting bid I would like to put up for Ecaudor, along with incentives.

Bid:

$2.5 trillion dollars.

Incentives:

1. Half price on oil exports from Alaska, Yukon, and Nunavut.
2. Kopparsbergs will not be required to pay any fees to travel the planned Guatemala Canal.
3. Supplies and food will be delivered to your campaign in the Mediterrean Sea.
4. Sharina will contribute its construction machinery, engineers, and personnel to rebuild Cyprus and other newly conquered lands of Kopparsbergs.
5. Sharina will pledge aid in future conflicts to Kopparsbergs.

I believe that this would be quite beneficial to our two nations, as well as bringing all of us closer together. In these troubled times, friendship is worth more than its weight in gold, as the adage "United we stand, divided we fall" rings true.

I shall await your response regarding this.

Live well and prosper,
President Rand Veristek

***Secret Telegram to Mauiwowee***

We thank you for this offer which we gladly accept. We already have troops on the Moluccas and New Guinea (remember, when we intevened after the collapse of the Yevon of Spira government). We will occupy Borneo, Celebes and small islands as sson as troops from Africa have returned to SE Asia. We will make use of your offer of a base on the Halmahera islands and build a small base (for around 1500-2000 marines) on one of the islands. We again want to thank you of your offer.

Signed, General Jang

Parties participating in the elections (to be held next RL saturday or Sunday)

The Communist Party of Warta Endor

Leader: Guc-Nohm Viet
Main Points: Communism must stay in Warta Endor.
Our only relations must be with other left wing nations.
prognosis: The party probably won't win the elections, though they have a fairly large group of supporters. They are still a force to reckon with.

Socialist Party Of Warta Endor

Leader: John Fu san
Main Points: Keep a bit of control in important things, but alow economic liberty in the rest.
A neutral as possible position must be kept.
Prognosis: This party will probably win. Socialism is still in the blood of every Warta Endorean.

Liberals United

Leader: Thomas Dunross
Main Points: Total freedom of enterprise.
Good relations with everybody, if possible
Prognosis: A very small party, they wont win, thats sure.

Imperialist Party/Ultra Nationalists

Leader: Duncan Lao
Main Points: Warta Endor will rule the world!
A colonial empire must be build. Grab every free space of Land!
Prognosis: This is a party with a strong base. They will probably become second in these elections.

ooc. I'm a bit tired, so a bad post. Does anyone favor a particular Party???

Cool party choices warta. Does any of them accept outside funding? If so, i would like to fund the Imperialist party with 24 million dollars.

*Concordiat News Network*

Concordiat forces have begun aerial bombardments of Switzerland, attacking millitary installations, infrastructure and mproduxction facilities. 800,000 troops and over 6,000 tanks have breached to border and have begun to seize control of strategic passes.

Well, you can do it "secretly" but if the electoral college (hope its the right word) finds out, the party can be banned and relations could be damaged.

--Zagreb News-- Mozembique invaded!
1,000,000 troops landed on every beach in Mozembique encountering little resistance. An unknown number of troops invaded Mozembique by land from Zambia. The small non-existant military is expected to be destroyed as the troops plough over the land un resisted.

ooc:The owner of Mozembique no longer cares about NS, so no matter how many telegrams you send him, he ain't going to answer because he is never logging on again. That is what he told me.

*Concordiat News Network*

Concordiat forces have begun aerial bombardments of Switzerland, attacking millitary installations, infrastructure and mproduxction facilities. 800,000 troops and over 6,000 tanks have breached to border and have begun to seize control of strategic passes.Telegram Jonothana. I don't think he knows.

Well, you can do it "secretly" but if the electoral college (hope its the right word) finds out, the party can be banned and relations could be damaged.
Ok...

- Mysteriously, an agent of Lord Vineyard II comes in the night to put 24 bags filled with one million dollars in bills through the windows of the Imperialist HQ. No one knows who made the donation, as the agent got out of there without incident.

ooc. isn't Anneburg the owner of Mozambique? She's a friend of mine, I'll call her if she hasn't reacted.

Imperialist HQ, Singapore

secretary:"Mister, someone dropped 24 million through our windows!
Duncann:"Well, do we know who did it?"
secretary:"Well no sir, but we can use the money!"
Duncan:"Yes, we surely can... Lets throw in a Propaganda campaign."

Soon, millions of flyers were spread around the major cities, with the following text:

Citizens!

Do you think its foolish to retreat from Africa?
Do you think its foolish to remain neutral?
Do you think WE are the party and the greatest country?
Do you think communism is the greatest danger for our Country?

If you agree with one or more of these points,

VOTE THE IMPERIALIST/ULTRA-NATIONALIST PARTY!!!

Socialist Party HQ, Kuala Lompoer

John Fu San:"How the hell did they got the money for this large scale campaign!"
Secretary:"I don't know, maybe a "January Surprise"?"
John Fu San:"Nah, it stinks. We had inside info that the party almost was bankrupt, and now they can finance a large propaganda campaign? This really stinks."
Secretary:"We can report this to the electoral college?"
John Fu San:"With no evidence? No, we must get more evidence..."
Secretary:"Shall I contact Mike?"
John Fu San:"Yes, do that. I'll get the Fascist Scum!!!"

Rerek Khizhlenov, Director of the EP Ministry, was currently writing up news articles to be published in the major Fedsoc Union newspapers to explain the nuclear explosion in Perm. He had had an idea about some sort of terrorist infilltration, but decided against it. A message came in on the intercom.

"Comrade Khizhlenov!" said the speaker. He pressed and held a button on the device so he could be heard on the other end.

"Yes, Comrade Premier Dreft?"

"Comrade, I need you to write up some propaganda fliers for the Warta Endor fascist and communist... um... oh, what's the word..."

"Sections, Comrade Premier?"

"No, what's the word for groups prisoners that they don't imprison in democracies?"

"Oh, political opposition parties, Comrade Premier!"

"Yes, that's it. Write up some fliers for both the fascist and communist parties of Warta Endor. Run it through the translator and have orders for eighty million copies of the communist print, and twenty-two million for the fascist print. Then, divert one trillion brics (USD$438,384,989,698, read 440 billion dollars, take that Vineyard. Let's have a nice little game of Election Tampering, shall we? :D) from this year's education budget and give it to the communists. That should help them out."

"At once, Comrade Premier."

*Concordiat News Network*

Concordiat forces have begun aerial bombardments of Switzerland, attacking millitary installations, infrastructure and mproduxction facilities. 800,000 troops and over 6,000 tanks have breached to border and have begun to seize control of strategic passes.


(OOC: There are many things wrong with this post alone.

1. Was Jonothana informed you were attacking him?
2. Where did all these forces come from? Not preparing troops in fine for annexing a country, but to attack another play, you need to RP the preparation of the attack.
3. How do you forces just breach the boarder magically when you haven't let Jonothana Rp anything?
4. Detail, detail, detail. We need details. I could easily "Take control of the world if I said so." But if I went into details, I would be proved a liar.

I highly sugget you edit or delete your post and start anew.)

Rerek Khizhlenov, Director of the EP Ministry, was currently writing up news articles to be published in the major Fedsoc Union newspapers to explain the nuclear explosion in Perm. He had had an idea about some sort of terrorist infilltration, but decided against it. A message came in on the intercom.

"Comrade Khizhlenov!" said the speaker. He pressed and held a button on the device so he could be heard on the other end.

"Yes, Comrade Premier Dreft?"

"Comrade, I need you to write up some propaganda fliers for the Warta Endor fascist and communist... um... oh, what's the word..."

"Sections, Comrade Premier?"

"No, what's the word for groups prisoners that they don't imprison in democracies?"

"Oh, political opposition parties, Comrade Premier!"

"Yes, that's it. Write up some fliers for both the fascist and communist parties of Warta Endor. Run it through the translator and have orders for eighty million copies of the communist print, and twenty-two million for the fascist print. Then, divert one trillion brics (USD$438,384,989,698, read 440 billion dollars, take that Vineyard. Let's have a nice little game of Election Tampering, shall we? :D) from this year's education budget and give it to the communists. That should help them out."

"At once, Comrade Premier."

-NO ONE KNOWS THAT THIS TELEGRAM EVER EXISTED-
--Secret telegram to Premier Dreft--
Stop funding the communist party. Although we do not oppose your actions, we strongly reccommend against it. We need an agressive nation in the FOAM alliance that will prove our accusations against FOAM. This will give our alliance a huge boost in its standings. Another communist party in Warta Endor will prove us wrong. 440 billion dollars? Fine, we will pledge our years extra money to them ($676,492,462,800.00). We could also gain an ally over in that country, therefore gaining influence in the region. My nation has always had friendly relations with them, so we would like this alliance. So please fund the Imperialist party.

- From
Bronimir Vineyard
Lord Vineyard II
Lord Dictator of Croatia and surrounding satilite states.

676,000 bags filled with one million dollars each was trucked over to the Imperialist party. Secret Agents disguised as civilians secured the perimiter and apprehended 3 citizens, knocked them out cold, then placed them in a back ally. One was carrying papers from the Communist party stating that he find out how the Imperials gained all that money. He was then tied to a chair and put in the Imperial HQ with a note in his pocket. Scribbled onto it it stated:

He is a spy of the communist party. We found papers on him. Oh, and sorry about the vase, we will replace it. Oh, yes. Good luck wading your way through money. (the building is filled to the brim with bags)

-From
Your friends.

HBS Hurricane started going into the deep lagoon and about half an hour into the water the boats were sighted!

An full broadside was fired and blew 2 pirate craft clear out of the water, an direct hit of the docks. 8 inches, fired on the remaining boats. Since they were in the lagoon with Hurricane blocking the only way out, the pirates were trapped.

Hurricane continued further a few more yards It let another broadside loose on the docks, now on fire and half gone. Pirates were rushing towards the remaining boats (10), but after an missle salvo by the Hurricane 2 more boats were blown apart.

The attack happened so quickly the pirates had no time to ge to thier battle stations, they were getting slaugtered.

Two pirate boats fired their small 5 inch cannons into the side of the Hurricane, but with an 24 inch thick armor belt, it did nothing more than shake the ship and injure an gunner stationed 2 decks above the blasts.

The Hurricane continued to let loose on the pirates with the large naval guns, an third broadside let into the "base" and anything that was left, is gone. The docks are on fire and only 5 boats remain

The pirates are surrendering and begging for mercy; but the order was to destroy ALL enemy forces. However, the government of Revertromance (conservative) would never stand for an mass murder.

The quick 10 minute naval battle was an victory for the HMS Hurricane proving it could be effective in battle despite its large girth, and also proved to the Revertromance Milatary, the ships abilities.

ALL surrendering pirates were put on board the Hurricane (to be transported to Martinique) However the boats could not simply be left. The boats were dicthed at the mouth of the lagoon and sunk so that the ships could not be recaptured by returning bandits.

The crew of the Hurricane started back to Martinque (a two day journey from south Mexico)

-=[ DMM News ]=-

USSNA has annouced that they are now fully in control of Trinidad and Tobago despite some setbacks from a few small local milita's. However forces have landed on Sierra Leone, Sao Tome & Principe, and Equatorial Guinea in an attempt to bring them on Atlantian control. Officials have already announced that they plan to stop any more anexation untill these nations can be built up to strength. Rumors have been floating aorund however, that an attack on Wirraway is being planed at this moment.

Imperial News Network

Sources within the citadel have revealed that the High Command has asked the permission of the Wirrawayen government to increase troop deployments in her various territories. Experts speculate that this may be due to rumours of a possible attack flowing out of the USSNA.

In other news, full annexation of Warta Endor's former African territories is now complete, and Warta Endoran forces are being allowed to withdraw without incedent.

The UNIverseVERSEian Government announced the completion of a major overhaul of it's military today, which has been conducted in surprising secrecy. They are also announcing the creating of the Inquisite brance, also known as Inquisitors, who have full powers to explore, find criminals, use torture to gain information, and to summarily execute once finished.

The UNIverseVERSEian Government announced the completion of a major overhaul of it's military today, which has been conducted in surprising secrecy. They are also announcing the creating of the Inquisite brance, also known as Inquisitors, who have full powers to explore, find criminals, use torture to gain information, and to summarily execute once finished.
To-Universeverse Government
From-Doomingsland Imperial Government

We have noticed your intent to create
an Inquisition. The Doomingsland Imperial Inquisition
is an ancient order with some of the most talented
Inquisitors in existance. For a small fee, we would
be willing to train your inquisitors in the art of pain
and torture. We await your response.

-=[ DMM News ]=-

USSNA has annouced that they are now fully in control of Trinidad and Tobago despite some setbacks from a few small local milita's. However forces have landed on Sierra Leone, Sao Tome & Principe, and Equatorial Guinea in an attempt to bring them on Atlantian control. Officials have already announced that they plan to stop any more anexation untill these nations can be built up to strength. Rumors have been floating aorund however, that an attack on Wirraway is being planed at this moment.
--Secret telegram to USSNA--
Greetings! We have heard from our agents that Doomingsland plans to aid his ally Wirraway in the defence of his country. To make war on Wirraway is to make war on Doomingsland, so we are offering our help. Doomingsland, (in our opinion an upright bitch) has always been at odds with our nation. We therefore offer you bases in our territories to help you launch attacks against the Italian peninsula. Logistics will be provided. We will also offer 1 million men as 'mercinaries" that could be rented out for one dollar a day(as in the whole army for a dollar a day!). We will provide logistics for our "Mercinaries" This way, we can help you without auctually declaring war or officially engaging our forces. Instead, a Vineyardian will act as an army of mercinaries to help you. If you would like help, of course.

We are entering talks with our allies of joining the war on You and jonothana's side. Have hope, i believe that we will join.

-Lord Vineyard II

I'll make this offical announcement now:

Because USSNA, Jonothana, and Sharina are considered close allies, we have granted them a bunch of stuff, including unlimited military access. ;) (I lost the list; it's on the Earth V Message Board)

(OOC: OMG this is quickly become a world war. This could be great fun. Doomingisland, Wirraway, and whoever against USSNA, TGSR, Jonothana, and Sharina.)

OOC:

Heh. World War, finally. :)

I went through NES Economy and compared stats of some of you Earth V guys to my nation.

I found out much to my surprise that I could give Tenebrocosis a run for his money with economy, military, etc. and he is 2x - 3x my population. I can also fight Doomingsland one on one, as my economy and military budgets are slightly bigger than his, yet I have 400 - 500 million less people than him.

I'm honestly surprised that I can actually fight nations much bigger than me and have a chance of holding my own. About damn time too. :D

OOC:Kopparbergs will probably come in on my side, too. Don't worry, this war will be over soon, especialy with what I'm fielding.

OOC: The Great Sixth Reich is like France. We ally with everybody and attack peaceful neutral nations, but never a nation that has any sort of threat.

Keep that in mind...

(I wouldn't be so sure. He was going to attack Wirraway sometime anyway.)

(I wouldn't be so sure. He was going to attack Wirraway sometime anyway.)

Secret OOC:

Wirraway and Doomingsland are my allies actually, ;).

But I am also allies with you guys.

Secret OOC:

Wirraway and Doomingsland are my allies actually, ;).

But I am also allies with you guys.
OOC:Wait, your allies with both of us, yet you're allowing them to invade from you?

The Great Sixth Reich has decided to give up all claims in the Carribean and Africa. We will concentrate our effort in Europe. Long live Europe!

Here's the bidding: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7978417#post7978417

(OOC: OMG this is quickly become a world war. This could be great fun. Doomingisland, Wirraway, and whoever against USSNA, TGSR, Jonothana, and Sharina.)
ooc: Awww, comon! Ive been trying to make a world war time after time again! It would be fun! Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

OOC:Wait, your allies with both of us, yet you're allowing them to invade from you?

IC:

Adolf Gorreing: "The Great Sixth Reich has grants military access to allied nations. We are not responible for whatever they choose to do with that. In fact, Doomingsland has military access through our lands as well. However, Austria, Hungry, Czech Republic, and Slovakia are closed to all nations, as they are terroritory of the United Nations and The Great Sixth Reich."

Revertromance would like to announce its neutrality in this approaching conflict

We're not in a position to start and fight an war abroad, with current domisic affairs.

How ever we hope to keep open trade with ALL countries during this oncoming war, yes we are talking about planes,tanks,guns,ammuntion, and ships

Just tell us what you need and when you need it by and we will get it to you.

But the offical statement from government is that Revertromance will try to remain neutral

Revertromance would like to announce its neutrality in this approaching conflict

We're not in a position to start and fight an war abroad, with current domisic affairs.

How ever we hope to keep open trade with ALL countries during this oncoming war, yes we are talking about planes,tanks,guns,ammuntion, and ships

Just tell us what you need and when you need it by and we will get it to you.

But the offical statement from government is that Revertromance will try to remain neutral

OOC:

You sound just like me. "If there's killing, let's at least make some money from it!" ;)

OOC: Maybe

But with an small army ditacaited to protecting my homeland i have no chance in FIGHTING an prolonged war, but i could always keep my war industry up than if bombs arn't falling on it

o.o.c. Okay due to NATO and that I could expand from this, I'm on the Sharina, Jonathan, ETC. side. Who are we fighting again?

Anybody interested in Greek history?

Earth Greece: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=390529

The Duke sat down with the reports. He had been pretty much ignoring them due to concern for his wife at the peace conference in Tehran. He had finally received word from Whittier- though that the Duchess Firebhrand Long was secure, with her security detail, in a safe house. Knowing that, for the time being anyway, the Duchess was in no danger, he turned his attention to other matters.

Hmm, "no reply to our bid for Ecuador, I wonder who else is bidding and whether we should increase our bid or sweeten the pot a little." He thought. Picking up his phone he called his minister of foreign affairs, Lord Birmingham of Alabama - "Lord Birmingham, good to hear your voice." the Duke said. "Look, do we have any idea who is bidding against us for Ecuador?"

"No sire, we don't. Rumors are that Sharina and Vineyard might. We can be sure Mauiwowee has though. Fodmodmadtol might be in there as well, but we can't say for sure who has bid, or how much they may have bid if they did."

"What? Vineyard may have a bid in?"

"Yes sire, they may I stress the word "may" though. We can't be certain."

"Damn, if we lose to Sharina, Fodmodmadtol or Mauiwowee, I'm not too concerned, but Vineyard, here, in our hemisphere, that is unnaceptable. Surely Kopparsberg wouldn't sell to them."

"I don't know sire, they have a lot of oil, if he sweetened his deal with some sort of oil deal, we might be in trouble. They get a good price because of S.H.I.T. but Vineyard could undercut that as part of a deal that Kopparsberg found attractive."

"Fuck! I can't go for that. Communicate to Kopparsberg, we wish to raise our bid to $2 Trillion and in addition to our previous offer regarding agricultrural products, we'll offer to sell them oil at a discount of 5% below cost per barrel for the next 5 years and promise them a seat on the Board of Directors for NOOGEES. Oh, and while you're at it, since it is possible Sharina is bidding as well, as a gesture of good faith, send them a copy of our previous bid and this new bid with a message telling them we did not want them to think we were doing something behind their back since they are such a great ally, and so forth and so on, you know, the standard "lets be best buddies and tell each other our deepest secrets" type routine.

"Yes sire, and, btw, I think it's a smart move."

They then hung up the phone.

OOC: Kopparsberg, consider yourself as having received a secret communique' outlining the above change to Norleans bid for Ecuador. Sharina, consider yourself as having been informed about our bids for Ecuador in a similar fashion

High Command Offical Release to Milatary:

I would like to point out that Revertromance simply has surface ships in it's milatary. Even if it does have alot, a single sub can reek havoc on war and mercant vessels. We are allocating 5 billion to create an missle sub

(just plans not the sub itself)

We are giving the milatary desginers 2 years to come out with the plans according to our specifcations.

SeaBastard 1 series


Builder: Revertromance Naval Shipyards

Propulsion system: one m-1 (revertromance designed) nuclear reactor

Propellers: one

Length: 455 feet (138.1 meters) (thank you expensive caculator for metric conversions :p )

Beam: 40 feet (12.2 meters)

Draft: 35 feet (10.67 meters)

Displacement: Surfaced: approx. 10,460 tons Submerged: approx. 12,158 tons

Speed: Surfaced: approx. 23 knots Submerged: approx. 37 knots

Armament: Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles from VLS-tubes, ten 660 mm torpedo Tubes for Mk-48 torpedoes, ability to lay mines

Crew: 12 Officers, 131 Enlisted

Current build cost: 4.2 B (sounds around right for an nuclear attack sub)

These are the specs that the Navy are looking for, the actual designs will probally be much diffrent

Turning to his next report, Duke Huey P. Long, III read it and then read it again as he thought to himself "What!! Tenebricosis nuked itself? What kind of SNAFU caused that?" Picking up the phone, he called his Director of Foreign Aid.

"Director, what's this about Tenebricosis nuking itself?"

"Well sire, it appears that's what happened, we're still trying to figure it all out, but apparantly a nuke fell back on it's launch point."

"Shit, that's gotta hurt! Situation Normal, All Fucked Up ought to be a motto for some folks. Tell you what, as a gesture of friendship, send Premier Dreft a case of our finest, single barrel, Jack Daniels straight from the Distillery in Lynchburg, a check for, hmm, $100 million and offer another $100 million in anti-radiation medicinal supplies if he wants it. Tell him it's a gift, no strings attached and offer our condolensces. Let's see if we can make some inroads with these people."

"Consider it done sire."

OOC: Tene, consider yourself as having received the above.

I never heard of him nuking himself (OOC:)

High Command

"WHAT!", shouts an 4 star general in the meeting hall "How the hell do you nuke YOURSELF" (he than goes on about his tour of duty in Vietnam)

"Well this isn't just his affairs, we've noticed increases radioactivty in the area and Norleans is providing relief, i suggest we do the same." says the genrals advisor (the brains)

"Well, our budget is always being pushed thanks the the milatary (chuckle) but we could scim an billion or so out of the "enviroment" budget, send that over to help with all that costly medicine and anti-radiation equiptment.", shouts the genral (still going on about vietnam and the day he killed a thousand communists and saved the free world lalalala)

Top advisor, "Right sir 1 Billion USD in international relief is on its way ASAP!"

(OOC:) who needs an enviroment, hippies

Turning to his last report: "Damn, a world war, with S.H.I.T. members on both sides. RevertRomance got this one right."

Turning to his console he typed out a message and then hit the "send" key.

::: For Immediate Release :::

Norleans is watching with dismay the increasing hostility in Europe and the Middle East and fears a coming World War. We are members of the S.H.I.T. trade alliance, but not a member of any military alliance and we will not take sides in this conflict. All existing contracts and agreements with S.H.I.T. members will be honored, no matter what side they may have taken in the war, but we will take no side and declare our official neutrality. non-S.H.I.T. members who have arrangements for the purchase of Norlean's goods may rest assured that those contracts will likewise be honored. However, Norlean's merchants are hereby advised that they ship their products at their own risk of attack upon their aircraft, ships, etc. during the shipping process. Norleans requests that all sides in the conflict recognize their neutrality and state affirmatively that they will supply anything to anyone on any side that is contracted for and that no side shall receive disparate treatment in trade negotiations.

End Transmission

(OOC:) who needs an enviroment, hippies

OOC: ROFL :D

An IM popped up on Duke Long's screen before he looked away, it was from his foreign affairs minister:

"confirmed, Aruba is ours, TGSR accepted our bid."

"Excellent" thought the duke.

Turning to his keyboard, he hastily typed out a message:

Encrypted, Secret Communique' to RevertRomance

Dear Sirs:

Please be advised of the following:

1. The conflict in the American Virgin Islands is over. Our position there is secure and, as a fellow member of S.H.I.T. and our Carribean neighbor, we wish to offer you landing privileges at the St. Croix port at no charge for the next 5 years as you build your military.

2. Note also, we are now the new owners of the island of Aruba and offer the same privileges at our port there.

3. We have joined you in your declaration of neutrality in the upcoming war in Europe and wish to obtain some stability in this region to prevent such a conflict from engulfing our nations. You have spoken in the past about a military alliance in the Carribean and we note with amazement your decisive action against pirates operating in the area. We would, therefore, like to invite you to send a delegation to New Orleans to discuss our mutual interests in the area and make a determination as to what we should do regarding the forming of a military alliance, maintainance of only a trade alliance, etc. in the area.

Sincerely,
Duke Huey P. Long, III
Norleans

Castle of Argentina, Buenos Aires, Argentina

"Okay, Åke, have we got any more bids on Ecuador?" said the king Carl Oscar V

"Yes, we have a couple. Sharina has sent us a very nice message. In short it reads like this: We get $2.5 trillion dollars, half price on oil from their northern territories and free passage through the planned Guatemala Canal. Plus, and this is great I think, they…" here Stålhandske was interrupted by the king.

"I haven't asked what you think, I just want to know what they're offering. Now, continue"

"Okay, I'm sorry sir. They will deliver supplies and food to our campaign in the Mediterranean, and they will help us to rebuild Cyprus and other newly conquered lands. And to the last, they will pledge aid in future conflicts."

"Hmm… Yes that's interesting. Does we have more bids?"

"No more bidders. But Norleans has sent an upgrade of their bid. They have raised the price to $2 trillion, and added a great deal on oil with a discount of 5% below cost. And a seat in the board of directors in their large oil company."

"This is hard. It seems to me that Vineyard's offer is to low. I wanted to sell this to them, as I wanted to make a great deal regarding another issue... But they may be interested in one of the
provinces in Argentina that I'm also going to sell. We have to look at that later. Okay, tell Sharina that they can have Ecuador, but ask them to pay $2.8 trillion."

"Yes, I'll send them a message right away. When will the handover take place?"

"As soon as possible. I'm going to order all of our military in Argentina to move out today, I need the troops in other places right away. Make a good deal with Sharina"

"Yes, will do that."


Message to Rand Veristek, Sharina

We have the pleasure to inform you that we are willing to
sell Ecuador to Sharina. We agree to the terms in your bid,
but we want you to raise the amount to $2.8 trillion dollars.
If you agree to this, you can take over Ecuador when you
want to. We are calling out all of our military forces this
week. The local government will stay there until you have
replaced everybody with your own personnel.

King Carl Oscar V, Kingdom of Kopparbergs

(Åke Stålhandske, Secretary of Foreign Affairs)

Official statement from the desk of the King

It has come to my attention that a war is uprising in Europe. We have a large amount of troops around the Mediterranean area, and they are already at highest alert due to our mission of aid at Cyprus. We have had great help from Doomingsland in that mission, and we will help Doomingsland in case of any attacks on his soul.
We have also handed over the island of Malta to Doomingsland, as it's in the middle of two of his countries anyway.

To make things clear: An attack on Doomingsland will be considered as an attack on Kopparbergs.

King Carl Oscar V of Kopparbergs

To the nation of Norleans:

We accept the use of your docks and airspace on St Croix and Aruba, and we are happy to hear that someone else is staying neutral in this conflict.

We would like to give you VIP use of Guadaloupe's International Commerical Center (airports) for 5 years in exchange. This could further stregthen the Carribean areas air superiority.

An delegate is on route to your capital for diplomatic talks, if it's alright with you that is

Pirate Peace Talks In Martinique

After the recent battles between the pirates and Revertromance Navy, an encripted messege was sent to Revertromances government from the pirate "homeland" in southern Mexico. (The mexicans are not all priates. They're just an large group of bandits in mexico, for these past RPs)

It read:

After the Massacure in Lurs Ares (i made it up :p ) Lagoon, We would like to end hostilities towards our two parties. We will end ALL hostilities between pirates and merchant shipping in the Carribean Area between Revertromance






"Send this is return", shouts the genral

Fine, but if you so much as point one more gun at ANY S.H.I.T member; we have missles and we will fine you. But if you truly stop raiding mercant shipping in the carribean, We will stop sending your boats to the bottom (total sunk after pirate hunting campiagn = 58)

END


"So, now were having peace peace talks with these terrorists, i think we should continue to hunt these bandits down.", says milatary advisor

"Yes, but if they stop raiding ships, than their not pirates.....that means they arn't doing anything illegal. That we know about atleast. Besides, half of the active pirates in the carribean are too scared to leave their docks. We've scared these vermon into submession, and succesfully ended mercant raiding.
That is if they except ofcourse, and considering we're threatning them with the might of our Navy i think they will accept our proposition (chuckle)", genral

2 days later an simple messege is recieved from the bandits:

We accept

OOC: peace between global powers and freely roaming pirates has emerged for the most part, but if this war breaks out this could trigger more pirate resistance. They would see it as an "chance" to make a quick buck with all that war material moving through the waters of the world.

Communique' to RevertRomance

We have been remisce in offering our friendship to our newest S.H.I.T. member. As a token of our esteem and a welcoming gift however, we have shipped to you, for the use of your president and his staff, 5 of our new Rush automobiles in the following Exterior/Interior color combonations:

Black/Black
White/Black
Grey/Black
Silver/Toupe
Red/Tan

All are also equipped with the optional bullet proof glass and body armor for protection of the occupants.

Specifications on the Rush are:

Price: $45,000.00 MSRP
Miles Per Gallon: 15/23 mpg
Curb Weight: 2680 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 7-Speed Ricardo Automatic or 6 Speed Hurst Manual
Engine Type: Quad-Turbo Wankel Rotary 18B
Displacement: 5980 cc
Horsepower: 525 bhp @ 5750 rpm
Torque: 550 lb-ft @ 2500-5,000 rpm
Redline: 7,250 rpm
Performance 0-60 mph: 3.1 sec
0-100 mph: 6.1 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.6 sec @ 142 mph
Skidpad: .99g
Top Speed: 238 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 106 ft
Slalom Speed: 81.2 mph

Photos of the New Rush


http://img60.exs.cx/img60/7296/18carfrontquartervie.jpg


http://img60.exs.cx/img60/8216/e7carfrontview.jpg

http://img60.exs.cx/img60/9553/8bcarrearview.jpg

http://img60.exs.cx/img60/2641/fdcarsideview.jpg

http://img60.exs.cx/img60/7356/d9cartopviewone.jpg

http://img60.exs.cx/img60/2757/07carinteriordash2.jpg

http://img60.exs.cx/img60/4584/eecarseats.jpg

We look forward to developing our relationships with your nation and increasing trade and relationships between Brazil and Uruguay.

Sincerely,
King 'Lude Valeeum Narcosis, II
Mauiwowee

Secret and Encrypted Communique' to RevertRomance

Dear sirs:

Due to the sensitive nature of this message, we'd ask you not discuss it. However, we note that you, like us, are a naval power. However, we also note your lack of Submarine power and expertise. In that vein, we would like to offer to your country the ability to purchase two of our Bud Class II, "Shark" submarines for 1/2 price. If you are interested in the technology and production rights, we'd be willing to discuss that as well. below is a photo and specs. on the sub. and we're interested in your reply.

Sincerely,
General Jack T. Ripper,
Mauiwowee Military Chief of Staff,
CEO, WMD, Inc.
by Appointment to his Majesty,
King 'Lude II

http://img73.exs.cx/img73/1112/mauisub3.jpg

Class: Bud II

Specifications
Displacement: 10,650 tons (submerged)
Length: 422 feet
Beam: 55 feet
Draft: 44 feet
Speed: >27 knots
Maximum Depth: 1,300 feet (tested, theoretical, 2,150)
Builder: W.M.D., Inc.
Power Plant: Two Tandem S8W Closed System Reactors w/ secondary General Electric Dynamo IV Electric motor.
Hull: HY-142 "Samuri Folded" Steel
Crew: 15 Officers & 145 Enlisted
Armament: 12 tube, 2 deck torpedo room:
8x720mm Torpedo Tubes
4x660mm Torpedo Tubes
75 Tomahawk Cruise missiles; or
75 Harpoon II Class anti-ship missiles; or
65 Mark 51 ADCAP torpedoes; or
135 MK 69 SLMM's (submarine launched mobile mines); or
Any reasonable combination of the above;
Plus:
2 ICBM vertical Missile Launchers and
2 retractable, "deck mounted," laser sighted, 65mm anti-aircraft guns (stern and bow).

Defensive Systems
WLY-4 torpedo decoy system
GTE WLQ-5(W)3 electronic countermeasures (ECM) system
W.M.D. Stealth "Sub Jet" silent propulsion (patent pending)
Electric Charged Hull system

Systems
Lockheed Martin BSY-5 Combat Data system;
Raytheon Mk3 Fire Control System;
BPS 19 Navigational Radar;
BQQ 7D Midships, Bow and Stern mounted active/passive wide flank sonar arrays

Price $1.85 billion, U.S.D.

General Information: The "Sub Jet" (patent pending) silent propulsion system developed by W.M.D., Inc. is a quantum leap forward in silent propulsion for submarines. To describe it in general terms:
traditional submarines are propelled by a propeller/screw that is sits externally from the hull of the submarine itself and spins around a shaft which is connected to a turbine which spins due to steam generated by the closed water system of the nuclear engine. However, the "sub jet" removes this external mechanism that creates sound in the water that other subs and sophisticated sonar systems can track. It does this by using a turbine, similar to a jet's turbine, which is mounted internally in a sound proofed central section of the submarine's interior. Water is forced through the tubine (just like air is forced through a jet engine's turbine) into an enclosed chamber where it is placed under pressure (again, just like air in a jet engine). There, it is (for all practical purposes) instantly superheated by the nuclear engine (like the air in a jet engine is heated by the explosion of the gasoline it mixes with which is sparked in the combustion chamber of a jet). The pressure is relieved by a rear opening aft of the pressure chamber, but still inside the submarine which the water "squirts" out of (just like the explosive gases "squirt" out the rear of a jet engine) to provide forward thrust. Instead of a screw with 4, 6 or 8 blades spinning in the water that surrounds the sub. and pushing the the sub. forward and creating noise sonar can track, you have a turbine with 110 "blades" sitting inside the submarine which is pushed forward by the force created when heated water under pressure is released through the aft "blow hole" (as W.M.D. engineers have come to describe the water's ejection point from the turbine's compartment). Note, the water is NOT heating to boiling as the release of steam would create turbulence that was as easily tracked as convential subs. A second opening at the aft of the submarine also acts to provide additional thrust as water is ejected from it. Secondly, since the primary source propulsion actually occurs INSIDE the submarine, by the time the water is ejected from the aft "blowhole," turbulence from the turbine has been reduced to almost nill. At maximum attack speed the sub is as easily tracked as any other sub. However, at normal cruising speed of 12-14 knots and a depth of 300 feet, the sub is all but completely undectable.

Secret Transmission to Mauiwowee:

It looks interesting but compared to current sub technology it looks an little "out there", how much does that thing cost to built.

However we're currently in the planning stages of our new sub, but would be interested in buying these subs for "anlaysis". I believe your price was 1.85 Billion USD since you were offering it at half off. If so, 3.70 billion USD is on its way to you. How long would i have to wait for delivery of these.

--Zagreb News--
Men all over the country are required to begin rudementary infantry training. Thay will be using AK-47's. Troops are on High alert as a world war is quickly escelating. Tha nation of Vineyard is consulting with allies currently, but will probably join the side of Jonothana and USSNA. Tank batallions are currently practicing at various bases all over the country. Air pilots are honing their skills on similators. The nation is set for war.

((OOC: OMG that Bud II sub is outragous.

First off How could a sub magically get rid of it cruise missile cells and put more torpedos in? Or just magically take out torpedos and add missile space? It doesn't work out.

And the propulsion system is bogus. Even if it did work, you would leave a very long trail of hot water behind you that subs could easily track. And even though the turbulance takes place inside the sub, you cannot muffle to sound like it says. Water is a great conductor of sound and the sounds would simply follow the tube out of the sub and into the open seas.

And lastly, price. For that price this sub would have to carry 1/4 the equipment is soposedly has and be 1/2 the size

EDIT: Ever notice how noisy commercial airliners are? They use turbines too))

--Secret telegram to USSNA--
Greetings! We have heard from our agents that Doomingsland plans to aid his ally Wirraway in the defence of his country. To make war on Wirraway is to make war on Doomingsland, so we are offering our help. Doomingsland, (in our opinion an upright bitch) has always been at odds with our nation. We therefore offer you bases in our territories to help you launch attacks against the Italian peninsula. Logistics will be provided. We will also offer 1 million men as 'mercinaries" that could be rented out for one dollar a day(as in the whole army for a dollar a day!). We will provide logistics for our "Mercinaries" This way, we can help you without auctually declaring war or officially engaging our forces. Instead, a Vineyardian will act as an army of mercinaries to help you. If you would like help, of course.

We are entering talks with our allies of joining the war on You and jonothana's side. Have hope, i believe that we will join.

-Lord Vineyard II

--Secret telegram to Vineyard--

We would gladly take up for offer of 1 million "mercinaries." They could be quite useful in the upcomming war. We hope you are our nations can gain stronger ties through warfare and diplomacy.

--End--



--Secrect telegram to Jonothana, Sharina, and Vineyard--

Friends, it appears the warfare is upon us. I fear that it is inevitable. This is why USSNA is proposing that the following nations enter in a secret alliance: the Global Defense Initiative or G.D.I. (Gotta love C&C) Under this Alliance we will all protect the other in the event of an attack. You under no means must discount trade in between members as this isnt an economic alliance, but you are encouraged to do so.

--End--



-=[DMM News]=-

It was announced later today that Sierra Leone, Sao Tome & Principe, and Equatorial Guinea are now under full control. The boarder between Sierra Leone and Guinea has been fortified also. Also annouced today, all military instilations are now under full alert

o.o.c. Correct me of I'm wrong but the sides in this upcomming war are Dumpsterdam,Wirraway and other people vs. USSNA, Sharina, Jonothana, and who ever want to be on their side.
How did this war start again?

I.C.
Celackian newsnet
We talk, you sleep.


"This just in. Prime Minister Tuesat of Celack has weighted in on the conflict that has engulfed the world. We go live to his press conference."


A tall thin man walks up to the podium in the press room of the Celackian parliment. He turnes to face the camera. His beard brushes up against the microphone as he puts on his glass. He begins to speak in a commanding voice.


"Today our allies in NATO, Sharina, and Jonothana, are, at this moment, in danger of being engulfed in war. We support them fully in the seemingly inevitable war. We pledge military aid, oil at lowered price, free-run of the Suez canal and supplies to our allies in this endevour.

Already, troops have been sent from mainland Celack to Egypt to prepare defenses. As we speak close to 3 million men have been commited to the defense of the border with Libya and several ships patrol the meditarnian sea to the north of Egypt.

To the enemies of our allies, you are now enemies of Celack. Surrender now. If you even try to invade our land we will come down on you like several tons of bricks. We wish for peace talks to start before this war.

To the Celackian people, this is our duty. Our allies are under attack. We must help defend them. That has always been Celackian policy. It has been such for over five thousand years. We must do our duty. Some of you may not understand why, but do not despare, we shall be victorius. We are Celackian. We have never failed.


I wish you all a good night and I hope that the next dawn brings new talks for peace."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Transmission
To: Leaders of Sharina and Jonothana
From: Prime minister Tuesat of Celack

Could you please tell me who else is involved in this conflict on our side?

Also what may we do to help our cause?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


General H.C. Ragnes watched as the engineers built another bunker in the sand. Just 10KM away was the enemy land. His job at the moment was to make sure that the border was defended against the inevitable wave of troops that would attack.

He turned his gaze skyward as the jets screamed overhead, on patrol. The patrol would consist of three planes leaving every half-an-hour out of one of five airbases. Each flight would go one fifth of the border and turn around and fly back along the border. The theory being that if the jet's spotted something moving in on the ground, they could report it in and then have enough fuel to slow down the enemy until re-inforcements arrived which would likely be more jets and attack helicopters.. It was a good plan, in theory. The main problem was the maintence of the jets and helicopters. The sand got everywhere and it was causing a headache for the mechanics.

He turned his attention back to the builders. They were screwing in a fixed chain-gun on the buker window lip. The bunkers were made from reinforced concrete and hidden in sand dunes to make it less easy to see. Unfortunatly it got in the eyes of the soldiers in the bunker too and it wasn't as effective as a cave, but it would have to do.

The main headache for the general was the tanks. Few were made for desert climate and those who weren't would barely work. They were mainly being used as a sort of artillery and well armed bunkers. The general sighed. The defense was shitty at the moment but everyday they spent out here made it a little it better.

Secret Transmission to Mauiwowee:

It looks interesting but compared to current sub technology it looks an little "out there", how much does that thing cost to built.

However we're currently in the planning stages of our new sub, but would be interested in buying these subs for "anlaysis". I believe your price was 1.85 Billion USD since you were offering it at half off. If so, 3.70 billion USD is on its way to you. How long would i have to wait for delivery of these.

::: Secret Transmission to RevertRomance :::

We are refunding your over payment of $1.85 Billion. At 1/2 off, the cost to you is $1.85 Billion total for two subs. The first will be delivered within the next 30 NS days and the second within another 60 (OOC: so basically you'll have both by this evening). Please note the cost does not include missiles, torpedoes, etc. you have to arm them yourselves. Also note that switching out between torpedoes and cruise missiles involves re-configuring launch areas and it is suggested you establish a sub as capable of either/or and leave it at that since re-configuration of launch areas is not a simple matter.

OOC: Actually, it is not all that far "out there" with current sub technology with the exception of "charged hull" idea (which I got from the movie 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea). Development cost for the sub was close to $100 Billion, but once developed and the factories tooled for production, build cost makes it profitable to sell at the $1.85 Billion mark.

Sincerely,
General Ripper.

((OOC: OMG that Bud II sub is outragous.

First off How could a sub magically get rid of it cruise missile cells and put more torpedos in? Or just magically take out torpedos and add missile space? It doesn't work out.

And the propulsion system is bogus. Even if it did work, you would leave a very long trail of hot water behind you that subs could easily track. And even though the turbulance takes place inside the sub, you cannot muffle to sound like it says. Water is a great conductor of sound and the sounds would simply follow the tube out of the sub and into the open seas.

And lastly, price. For that price this sub would have to carry 1/4 the equipment is soposedly has and be 1/2 the size

EDIT: Ever notice how noisy commercial airliners are? They use turbines too))

OOC:
1. Please note my reply to RevertRomance, it's an either/or situation there is no "magic" involved. You either configure the sub for cruise missiles or for torpedos. If you want to change out, you must take the sub through a lengthy re-fit.

2. The sub is sold without any missiles, torpedoes, etc. The only weapons that come with the sub for the $1.85 billion price are the two deck mounted guns. I agree that "fully loaded" the cost would be significantly higher.

3. As to detection and the hot water stream, the stream would not be all that long due to the volume of cold water around it that would cause it to disipate rapidly. Also, I never claimed it was undetectable by thermal imaging technology at all, my claims were related to echo-location sonar. The hot water issue and the use of thermal imaging technology is a weakness that could be exploited and is acknowledged by me.

4. Sound dampening technology could reduce the sound of an internal turbine to "undetectable" levels at lower speeds. You'll note I said it was "virtually undectable" at depths of 300 feet or below and when traveling at 12 knots or below. At higher speeds its becomes detectable and at max speed of 27 knots or so is easily spotted by standard sonar because of the turbulence created as the water is ejected from the aft portion of the sub.

5. The propulsion system would work and similar systems have actually been considered. I cleared this with one of the engineering professors at the college where I teach. Same with the sound dampening. The problem is that there comes a "break even" point where the sound damping will do no good and that is proportional to how fast the turbine is spinning and how much turbulence it is creating. The faster the spin, the more turbulence and the less capabable sound dampening will be. Therefore, the faster the sub is traveling the more likely it is to be detectable. I placed that point at the 12 knots area.

All of these considerations have been taken into account quite some time ago when I first put this sub out there before Earth V. The sub's greatest advantage is it's speed capabilities in attack mode. It is vulnerable to tracking with thermal imaging technology at any speed and easily tracked with standard sonar at speeds above 12 knots or so. It can be configured to use the weapons described, but, as you note, some of them must be an either/or proposition, you can't have them all at the same time.

Castle of Argentina, Buenos Aires, Argentina

"Okay, Åke, have we got any more bids on Ecuador?" said the king Carl Oscar V

"Yes, we have a couple. Sharina has sent us a very nice message. In short it reads like this: We get $2.5 trillion dollars, half price on oil from their northern territories and free passage through the planned Guatemala Canal. Plus, and this is great I think, they…" here Stålhandske was interrupted by the king.

"I haven't asked what you think, I just want to know what they're offering. Now, continue"

"Okay, I'm sorry sir. They will deliver supplies and food to our campaign in the Mediterranean, and they will help us to rebuild Cyprus and other newly conquered lands. And to the last, they will pledge aid in future conflicts."

"Hmm… Yes that's interesting. Does we have more bids?"

"No more bidders. But Norleans has sent an upgrade of their bid. They have raised the price to $2 trillion, and added a great deal on oil with a discount of 5% below cost. And a seat in the board of directors in their large oil company."

"This is hard. It seems to me that Vineyard's offer is to low. I wanted to sell this to them, as I wanted to make a great deal regarding another issue... But they may be interested in one of the
provinces in Argentina that I'm also going to sell. We have to look at that later. Okay, tell Sharina that they can have Ecuador, but ask them to pay $2.8 trillion."

"Yes, I'll send them a message right away. When will the handover take place?"

"As soon as possible. I'm going to order all of our military in Argentina to move out today, I need the troops in other places right away. Make a good deal with Sharina"

"Yes, will do that."


Message to Rand Veristek, Sharina

We have the pleasure to inform you that we are willing to
sell Ecuador to Sharina. We agree to the terms in your bid,
but we want you to raise the amount to $2.8 trillion dollars.
If you agree to this, you can take over Ecuador when you
want to. We are calling out all of our military forces this
week. The local government will stay there until you have
replaced everybody with your own personnel.

King Carl Oscar V, Kingdom of Kopparbergs

(Åke Stålhandske, Secretary of Foreign Affairs)




Rand smiled as he read King Carl Oscar's message. He began developing a response immediately, and within ten minutes, it was sent, along with a monetary transmission.

============================
Greetings, my friend King Carl Oscar V,

I am glad to hear that you have accepted my bid. It shall usher into a new age of prosperity for both our peoples.

I am sending not 2.8 trillion dollars, but instead, I am sending 3 trillion dollars as a gesture of friendship and goodwill. In addition, my other incentives shall take effect immediately.

I shall send two full carrier groups from the Sharina Pacific Navy to Ecaudor, along with five divisions of Army, and two divisions of the Air Force to help secure Ecauador, as well as putting down any riots until proper police forces can be trained.

The governmental officials, the Air Force, and the marines will arrive within two days, while the rest shall arrive by the end of the week.

I look forward to having more dealings, relationships, trade, and more solid friendship with your nation.

Live well and prosper,
President Rand Veristek

--Secret telegram to Vineyard--

We would gladly take up for offer of 1 million "mercinaries." They could be quite useful in the upcomming war. We hope you are our nations can gain stronger ties through warfare and diplomacy.

--End--



--Secrect telegram to Jonothana, Sharina, and Vineyard--

Friends, it appears the warfare is upon us. I fear that it is inevitable. This is why USSNA is proposing that the following nations enter in a secret alliance: the Global Defense Initiative or G.D.I. (Gotta love C&C) Under this Alliance we will all protect the other in the event of an attack. You under no means must discount trade in between members as this isnt an economic alliance, but you are encouraged to do so.

--End--



-=[DMM News]=-

It was announced later today that Sierra Leone, Sao Tome & Principe, and Equatorial Guinea are now under full control. The boarder between Sierra Leone and Guinea has been fortified also. Also annouced today, all military instilations are now under full alert

I like the sound of this GDI. I accept. But when anylizing them military situation, i can't help but notice that due to the fact that our combined territories are awfully wide spread. To minimise this disadvantage, we need a strong fleet. Currently, my naval fleet is 20 carrier fleets strong. I suggest that we merge out fleets under a single joint command to rule the seas and cut our enemy off from his other territories. The 1 million man army is ready to deploy to any location you wish them to deploy to USSNA. I think i will be draged into this war anyhow, so i pledge my full support!

-Lord Vineyard II

OOC:

I control nearly half of the whole North America. In addition, I project considerable power along the Pacific and Caribbean. With the latest addition of Ecaudor, my Pacific power can only increase. :)

I don't believe in holding lands hap-hazard all over the world, because it would be much harder to protect and defend aganist invasions or enemies.

Ecaudor is my first non-continuous territory, but it is pratically next to Mexico and Latin America which I have solid control over.


And this is quite a twist, me ending up on the same side as Vineyard. :p

OOC:

Anybody know what's happening with the Earth V Rome: Total War battle?

If Vineyard does not reinstall his game, then we will all have to install the "Realism" mod, because this problem caused the walls to still be standing (the onagers must of been affected by the mod) and the whole game to be screwed-up past that point. ;)

I think you should just go on withoit me, as the graphics card situation is looking bleak.

OOC:

I have created a Earth-V OOC-thread for all the OOC-talk in Earth-V. Maybe this will clean up this thread a bit. :)

In the OOC-thread any kind of subject is allowed - with one exception: IC posts are not allowed.

The link:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=390622

o.o.c. Correct me of I'm wrong but the sides in this upcomming war are Dumpsterdam,Wirraway and other people vs. USSNA, Sharina, Jonothana, and who ever want to be on their side.
How did this war start again?

I.C.
Celackian newsnet
We talk, you sleep.


"This just in. Prime Minister Tuesat of Celack has weighted in on the conflict that has engulfed the world. We go live to his press conference."


A tall thin man walks up to the podium in the press room of the Celackian parliment. He turnes to face the camera. His beard brushes up against the microphone as he puts on his glass. He begins to speak in a commanding voice.


"Today our allies in NATO, Sharina, and Jonothana, are, at this moment, in danger of being engulfed in war. We support them fully in the seemingly inevitable war. We pledge military aid, oil at lowered price, free-run of the Suez canal and supplies to our allies in this endevour.

Already, troops have been sent from mainland Celack to Egypt to prepare defenses. As we speak close to 3 million men have been commited to the defense of the border with Libya and several ships patrol the meditarnian sea to the north of Egypt.

To the enemies of our allies, you are now enemies of Celack. Surrender now. If you even try to invade our land we will come down on you like several tons of bricks. We wish for peace talks to start before this war.

To the Celackian people, this is our duty. Our allies are under attack. We must help defend them. That has always been Celackian policy. It has been such for over five thousand years. We must do our duty. Some of you may not understand why, but do not despare, we shall be victorius. We are Celackian. We have never failed.


I wish you all a good night and I hope that the next dawn brings new talks for peace."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Transmission
To: Leaders of Sharina and Jonothana
From: Prime minister Tuesat of Celack

Could you please tell me who else is involved in this conflict on our side?

Also what may we do to help our cause?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


General H.C. Ragnes watched as the engineers built another bunker in the sand. Just 10KM away was the enemy land. His job at the moment was to make sure that the border was defended against the inevitable wave of troops that would attack.

He turned his gaze skyward as the jets screamed overhead, on patrol. The patrol would consist of three planes leaving every half-an-hour out of one of five airbases. Each flight would go one fifth of the border and turn around and fly back along the border. The theory being that if the jet's spotted something moving in on the ground, they could report it in and then have enough fuel to slow down the enemy until re-inforcements arrived which would likely be more jets and attack helicopters.. It was a good plan, in theory. The main problem was the maintence of the jets and helicopters. The sand got everywhere and it was causing a headache for the mechanics.

He turned his attention back to the builders. They were screwing in a fixed chain-gun on the buker window lip. The bunkers were made from reinforced concrete and hidden in sand dunes to make it less easy to see. Unfortunatly it got in the eyes of the soldiers in the bunker too and it wasn't as effective as a cave, but it would have to do.

The main headache for the general was the tanks. Few were made for desert climate and those who weren't would barely work. They were mainly being used as a sort of artillery and well armed bunkers. The general sighed. The defense was shitty at the moment but everyday they spent out here made it a little it better.
OOC:You had the sides right, except it's me instead of Dumpsterdam, and Kopparbergs is on our side, too. The war hasn't even started yet, but USSNA is starting to act all imperialistic towards Wirraway, and we had no intention of invasion. In otherwords, you're the agressors.

-NO ONE KNOWS THAT THIS TELEGRAM EVER EXISTED-
--Secret telegram to Premier Dreft--
Stop funding the communist party. Although we do not oppose your actions, we strongly reccommend against it. We need an agressive nation in the FOAM alliance that will prove our accusations against FOAM. This will give our alliance a huge boost in its standings. Another communist party in Warta Endor will prove us wrong. 440 billion dollars? Fine, we will pledge our years extra money to them ($676,492,462,800.00). We could also gain an ally over in that country, therefore gaining influence in the region. My nation has always had friendly relations with them, so we would like this alliance. So please fund the Imperialist party.

- From
Bronimir Vineyard
Lord Vineyard II
Lord Dictator of Croatia and surrounding satilite states.

--Super Duper Secret Telegram to Lord Vineyard II--
Don't be a fool. Your father would have seen that by funding the communist party, we can strongly influence them after they gain power, even place our own puppet leaders in their state. Eventually, they will join the UFSR and we can use them for any purpose, be it aggressive or peaceful. We will have a large sphere of influence in the area. The imperialists are a bunch of right-winged lunatics who will not respect our authority. You have wasted quite a bit of money. Remember, we are "communists" in a sense.

Yakovi Dreft
Premier of Tenebricosis
Chairman of the UFSR
YOUR SUPERIOR

OOC:

Heh. World War, finally. :)

I went through NES Economy and compared stats of some of you Earth V guys to my nation.

I found out much to my surprise that I could give Tenebrocosis a run for his money with economy, military, etc. and he is 2x - 3x my population. I can also fight Doomingsland one on one, as my economy and military budgets are slightly bigger than his, yet I have 400 - 500 million less people than him.

I'm honestly surprised that I can actually fight nations much bigger than me and have a chance of holding my own. About damn time too. :D

OOC:
Remember, it was allowed by the Great Sixth Reich quite a while ago that when calculating my GDP, it should be added to that of DontPissUsOff, since we merged to form the UFSR. He is sort of in a state of "suspended animation," he gave me permission to RP for him and he agreed to become a Class I member of the UFSR, in which his territories and economy and population become part of Tenebricosis. If, at any time, he becomes interested in RPing in Earth V, he can secede from Tenebricosis and reclaim all his old territories.

Basically, my GDP is probably about twice what you think it is. That's why I, as well as you, are superpowers.

But I'm bigger, and in a war you would lose. Also, all nations of the UFSR, (that's Tenebricosis, Whittier, Vineyard, The Great Sixth Reich, and sort of DontPissUsOff) are required to support each other in a war. So don't think of attacking any of us any time soon.

If there's a world war, it'll be FOAM vs UFSR.

((OOC: Sorry, I don't seem to have been paying attention. Can someone please tell me what this conflict is I'm involved in?))

OOC:
Remember, it was allowed by the Great Sixth Reich quite a while ago that when calculating my GDP, it should be added to that of DontPissUsOff, since we merged to form the UFSR. He is sort of in a state of "suspended animation," he gave me permission to RP for him and he agreed to become a Class I member of the UFSR, in which his territories and economy and population become part of Tenebricosis. If, at any time, he becomes interested in RPing in Earth V, he can secede from Tenebricosis and reclaim all his old territories.

Basically, my GDP is probably about twice what you think it is. That's why I, as well as you, are superpowers.

But I'm bigger, and in a war you would lose. Also, all nations of the UFSR, (that's Tenebricosis, Whittier, Vineyard, The Great Sixth Reich, and sort of DontPissUsOff) are required to support each other in a war. So don't think of attacking any of us any time soon.

If there's a world war, it'll be FOAM vs UFSR.

Hmm. Numbers may not always mean victory. The Greeks proved this aganist the Persians during Alexander The Great's campaigns.

In addition, defenders have a decided advantage over invaders, for quite a few reasons.

1. Logistics
2. Shorter distance to deploy troops / material.
3. More people are willing to support a defensive war as opposed to supporting an invasion.
4. Defenders know their terrain much better than the invaders.
5. Defenders can hide or spring surprises more successfully than invaders.

I can think of some more reasons.


Basically, if it was a 1 vs 1 war between Sharina and Tenebrocosis, it'd probably end up a 50 / 50 chance if Tenebrocosis invades, and perhaps a 40 / 60 chance in favor of Tenebrocosis if I invade him.

Also, successful use of tactics can allow 100 men to take out 200 men, or even 500 men if executed properly.

::: Secret Transmission to RevertRomance :::

We are refunding your over payment of $1.85 Billion. At 1/2 off, the cost to you is $1.85 Billion total for two subs. The first will be delivered within the next 30 NS days and the second within another 60 (OOC: so basically you'll have both by this evening). Please note the cost does not include missiles, torpedoes, etc. you have to arm them yourselves. Also note that switching out between torpedoes and cruise missiles involves re-configuring launch areas and it is suggested you establish a sub as capable of either/or and leave it at that since re-configuration of launch areas is not a simple matter.

OOC: Actually, it is not all that far "out there" with current sub technology with the exception of "charged hull" idea (which I got from the movie 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea). Development cost for the sub was close to $100 Billion, but once developed and the factories tooled for production, build cost makes it profitable to sell at the $1.85 Billion mark.

Sincerely,
General Ripper.


OOC but still relevant to the IC: We're going to make one sub an mostly missle and other sub mostly torpedo ;since we're not gonna wait weeks to reconfigure

OOC:
But I'm bigger, and in a war you would lose. Also, all nations of the UFSR, (that's Tenebricosis, Whittier, Vineyard, The Great Sixth Reich, and sort of DontPissUsOff) are required to support each other in a war. So don't think of attacking any of us any time soon.

If there's a world war, it'll be FOAM vs UFSR.

OOC:
But the situation in this uprising conflict is a litte weird, but realistic.

Wirraway attacks Switzerland, controlled by Jonothana.
TGSR, Vineyard, Sharina, USSNA and Celack wants to fight together with Jonothana. Doomingsland fears strikes at him to as he is going to defend Wirraway. Because I'm allied with Doomingsland I'm going to defend him.

That's not FOAM vs UFSR. But we'll see what really happens. It can be totally different as TGSR is allied with Doomingsland and I have good relations to at least Jonothana and Sharina. And it's strange to see Vineyard in that coalition... This could be fun!

OOC:You had the sides right, except it's me instead of Dumpsterdam, and Kopparbergs is on our side, too. The war hasn't even started yet, but USSNA is starting to act all imperialistic towards Wirraway, and we had no intention of invasion. In otherwords, you're the agressors.
Again, you twitst everything out of proportion.

Wirraway is attacking Switzerland. That started it all. Look back at the posts.


-Oh, boy... this war is going to be huge. I can't wait.

OOC:
But the situation in this uprising conflict is a litte weird, but realistic.

Wirraway attacks Switzerland, controlled by Jonothana.
TGSR, Vineyard, Sharina, USSNA and Celack wants to fight together with Jonothana. Doomingsland fears strikes at him to as he is going to defend Wirraway. Because I'm allied with Doomingsland I'm going to defend him.

That's not FOAM vs UFSR. But we'll see what really happens. It can be totally different as TGSR is allied with Doomingsland and I have good relations to at least Jonothana and Sharina. And it's strange to see Vineyard in that coalition... This could be fun!
3 against 5? This is starting to sound like WWII.Japan, italy and Germany against the world. hehe.

Again, you twitst everything out of proportion.

Wirraway is attacking Switzerland. That started it all. Look back at the posts.


-Oh, boy... this war is going to be huge. I can't wait.
OOC:Bah, I forgot that Switzerland was owned by someone, my bad. Don't worry, we've got plenty of advanced crap to hold you off. Besides, who says we don't have diobolical schemes to cause you all to blow each other up?

Thanks to the work in Revertromances stellar R and D department (as well as Mauiwowee's excellent next generation attack sub, which new sub technology will be based off of) The final plans came to the milatary and they like what they saw, the Fleet Admiral had his jaw drop when he saw the computer generated images




SeaBastard 1 series


Builder: Revertromance Naval Shipyards

Propulsion system: one m-1 (revertromance designed) nuclear reactor

Propellers: one

Length: 455 feet (138.1 meters) (thank you expensive caculator for metric conversions )

Beam: 40 feet (12.2 meters)

Draft: 35 feet (10.67 meters)

Displacement: Surfaced: approx. 10,460 tons Submerged: approx. 12,158 tons

Speed: Surfaced: approx. 23 knots Submerged: approx. 37 knots

Armament: Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles from VLS-tubes, ten 660 mm torpedo Tubes for Mk-48 torpedoes, ability to lay mines

Crew: 12 Officers, 131 Enlisted

Current build cost: 3.5 B

OOC:Bah, I forgot that Switzerland was owned by someone, my bad. Don't worry, we've got plenty of advanced crap to hold you off. Besides, who says we don't have diobolical schemes to cause you all to blow each other up?


:eek: bomb shelters being dug :p.....seriously

ooc: Woops, i just realized that Mozembique is owned by Anneberg! Ignore my invasion of Mozembique! IT NEVER HAPPENED!

--Zagreb news-- One million troops are invading Botswana. The troops are encountering little resistance as they sweep over the northern desert, but stifer resistance is expected near its cities. When they crossed the border, a huge thrust by 500,000 troops sezed the city of Francistown quickly and without incident. Only the capitol remains to be captured. 20,000 Botswanan troops were captured during the attack, and they have all dissappeared into captivity. Currentl;y, they are probably being tortured for information, of just being tortured to give the Schollars of Pain (Croatia's tortue unit) a little brushing up on their skills.

(OOC: i had to do an RP on exports/imports and since i cant find the alliance thread on S.H.I.T ill just post it here)

Country: Revertromance

Geography: Carribean; South America (Uruguay); and Africa (Cameroon)

Materials:
Aluminium: 120% national useage
Coal: 120% national useage
Uranium: 30% of national useage*
Plutonium: 10% of national useage*
Iron: 400% of national useage**
Copper: 230% of national useage**
Diamonds: 120% of national useage
Oil: 150% of national useage
Silicon: 200% national useage**
Grain: 70% of national useage*
Fish: 370% national useage**
Titanium: 60% national useage*
Bronze: 170% of national useage**
Meat: 80% national useage*
Lumber: 500% national useage** (Uruguay is nothing but rainforest)

This is everything that is important (either i have to much or not enough)
Im sure there is alot more stuff going in and out (IE tungsten) but im not going to moniter EVERY item going in and out of my nation (take forever)
*=imports
**=exports
nothing= stockpiling

OOC: Me and Doomingsland are going to utterly destroy anyone who attacks us, still waiting for Jonothana to respond so I massacre his troops.

Kopparbergs High Command, Buenos Aires

There is a meeting going on. The subject is of course the uprising issue in Europe. There are only four people in this meeting as it's considered strictly confidential code red: the King Carl Oscar V, Carl Hamilton (Sec. of Defense), Åke Stålhandske (Sec. of Foreign Affairs) and the Supreme Commander.

"Okay, Åke, update us on the situation. Who is defending who?" said the King.

"First we have Wirraway. He started the whole thing, and you all know how. He seems to only have one allied, Doomingsland. And as we are allied with Doomingsland I guess others would say that we're on their side.
Jonothana that was attacked, or sort of anyway, is a member of the military alliance NATO. As soon as other knew the incident, his allies began to scramble their military. USSNA, Sharina, Celack (who controls the Suez canal) and even Vineyard have stated that they will defend Jonothana. TGSR has allowed them to use his territory if necessary. That's were we stand now."

"Okay, thanks for the briefing Åke. Remember me to promote you some other day. What do you think of this situation Hamilton?" said the King. He was very calm today, despite the serious issue.

"Well, together with Doomingsland and Wirraway, we have a lot of military power in the western Mediterranean. Look at this map." Hamilton showed a big map on the wall:

http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/europe-war.jpg

"Wait, do you see how important Cyprus is to us?" said Carl Oscar.
We can draw benefits from this. How is it going with the campaign there?"

"It's almost done. In a week we will have complete control over Cyprus. I received a report today that stated that the capital Nicosia has fallen. It's only the southern 25% we don't have yet, but that's a deliberately fact. We haven't even tried to take it."

"Okay, that's good enough. I want you to order some ships, it's up to you and the Supreme Commander to decide which, to go to the south east Mediterranean. We must be ready to close that corner of the sea. If we do that, nobody can enter the sea by the Suez canal." The king thought he had a great idea...

"Hmm... but what about Celack?"

"Don't know, but I don't think he would be such a big problem..."

"Okay, I have to discuss this with the Supreme Commander" said Hamilton. "Then he should give the order to the concerned ships."

"Thanks guys. Meeting dismissed. I have some important things to take care of. I might call you to another meeting later today, so don't leave town. Ha ha." Carl Oscar thought he was very funny. None of them was allowed to leave Buenos Aires when there was a situation like this.

OOC: The ships will not leave Cyprus yet. They'll get the order later.

"Sir!"
"Yes, Lt. Gen, what is it?"
"Keep glancing at the map, i can't help but notice that our forces need to reposition for the comming war."
"What do you mean?"
" Well, we have 1 million troops invading Botswana. Another .5 million is stationed in Zambia. 6 (including one million auxillary) million in the Main lands. 1.5 mill. in Iraq, Kuwait, Oman and Saudi Arabia. 288,800 troops in Jamica, guarding the Ships being Built there."
"And?"
"We don't need .5 million in Afirca, no one is threatening us down there."
Lord Vineyard II strode over to the maps. he just glanced at the situation and knew what to do.
"Reinforce Celack. The Suez Canal is the key to defending Afirca. Send .5 million troops from the Hervatska Afriacin Army there to reinforce their positions."
"Yes, my lord. Gen. Bantu will be informed at once."

ooc: Jonothana, you asked why you are involved in all of this. Well, wirraway is attacking Switzerland, and you havn't said a thing. So far, 4 people are pledging aid (such as myself) to your cause, while Wirraway has got doomingsland who got koppersbergs on their side. This is a world war.

o.o.c. To get to the suez canal you'll have to get through my navy. But yeah there are troops there as well. I think I mentioned my fleet earlier.

OOC: Me and Doomingsland are going to utterly destroy anyone who attacks us, still waiting for Jonothana to respond so I massacre his troops.

Quite doubtful.

Lets see....

Wirraway's side:

Wirraway: 1,411,000,000.
Doomingsland: 1,397,000,000.
Kopparbergs: 908,00,000.

Total: 3,716,000,000.

Jonothana's side:

Jonothana: 1,457,000,000.
Sharina: 924,000,000.
Celack: 4,051,000,000.
Vineyard: 467,000,000.

Total: 6,889,000,000.



As you can see, Celack is bigger than the WHOLE "Wirraray Alliance", and the combined population of "Jonothana Alliance" is nearly DOUBLE of "Wirraray Alliance".

So, again, this....

OOC: Me and Doomingsland are going to utterly destroy anyone who attacks us, still waiting for Jonothana to respond so I massacre his troops.

Is an extremely laughable and empty threat. ;)

Concordiat News Network

The over 800,00 men of the Wirrawyan 2nd and 3rd Armies continue to over run Switzerland in the glorious re-conquest. We are being told that heavy aerial bombardment has decimated the fixed postitions and fortifications that are the lynchpin of Swiss defenses. This is all possible because, as you all know, Switzerland was once part of the Concordiat. Apparently after our forced withdrawal detailed plans were kept of all defensive positions in the alps and the rest of the country. These plans have been utilized to great effect. Losses have been fairly high but well within acceptable ranges with about 7,000 killed and 11,000 wounded.

Wirrawayan forces have breached the outskirts of Geneva and are moving rapidly through the lowlands. Forces form the south are in the process of taking Laussane. Switzerland should fall in the next few weeks as troops continue to pour in.

In other news there have been reports of a heightening of Wirrawayan military readiness throughout the Concordiat. Leaves have been canceleld and training operations stepped up. We are also getting reports that some Asian forces are in the process of being transported to the European theatre.


Secret IC

Telegram: Doomingsland and Kopparsberg

Thank you for declaring your support of us in the possible coming conflict. We wish to have a general meeting to discuss strategy and other issues pertaining to the possible opening of hostilies. We invite you to a conference in the city of Amsterdam where hopefully we can work together to counter the threats against us.

Also, I can easily take on Doomingsland 1 vs 1, or at the very least tie him up so bad he can't send help to Wirraway if he comes under attack from either Celack, Vineyard, or Jonothana. ;)

o.o.c. To get to the suez canal you'll have to get through my navy. But yeah there are troops there as well. I think I mentioned my fleet earlier.
I'm YOUR ALLY! We are both fighting on the side of Jonothana. Be my guest and sink your reinforcements though.

Concordiat News Network

The over 800,00 men of the Wirrawyan 2nd and 3rd Armies continue to over run Switzerland in the glorious re-conquest. We are being told that heavy aerial bombardment has decimated the fixed postitions and fortifications that are the lynchpin of Swiss defenses. This is all possible because, as you all know, Switzerland was once part of the Concordiat. Apparently after our forced withdrawal detailed plans were kept of all defensive positions in the alps and the rest of the country. These plans have been utilized to great effect. Losses have been fairly high but well within acceptable ranges with about 7,000 killed and 11,000 wounded.

Wirrawayan forces have breached the outskirts of Geneva and are moving rapidly through the lowlands. Forces form the south are in the process of taking Laussane. Switzerland should fall in the next few weeks as troops continue to pour in.

In other news there have been reports of a heightening of Wirrawayan military readiness throughout the Concordiat. Leaves have been canceleld and training operations stepped up. We are also getting reports that some Asian forces are in the process of being transported to the European theatre.


Secret IC

Telegram: Doomingsland and Kopparsberg

Thank you for declaring your support of us in the possible coming conflict. We wish to have a general meeting to discuss strategy and other issues pertaining to the possible opening of hostilies. We invite you to a conference in the city of Amsterdam where hopefully we can work together to counter the threats against us.


My god. Please wait for Jonothana to respond. that is all godmoding. Someone please send him a telegram regarding what is occuring, i think he's confused.

OOC:

Remember I sent out the Airbus A380s and everything else I said I would. Now I expect the return gift after this war... ;)

Sharina, it doesn't matter how many troops you have its the way you use them, don't think i need to name the examples in history that prove this point. Frankly, we will out general, outsmart and then utterly destroy you and your allies. Our technological edge due to our association with Soviet Bloc gives us a huge advantage.

But don't take my word for it just wait until we meet in battle and I send the shattered remmenants of your armed forces home ;)

IC:You will be granted bases in my territories to launch an attack on Doomingsland. Our troops will also aid you, as we have a score or two to settle.

OOC:

Check your telegrams...

See the one from Teenbicouslicsics (sp?)?

Sharina, it doesn't matter how many troops you have its the way you use them, don't think i need to name the examples in history that prove this point. Frankly, we will out general, outsmart and then utterly destroy you and your allies. Our technological edge due to our association with Soviet Bloc gives us a huge advantage.

But don't take my word for it just wait until we meet in battle and I send the shattered remmenants of your armed forces home ;)
Tech superiority? Perhaps you havn't heard that i no longer use any obsolete F-22 raptors or Eurofighters. i have completely switched to the X series planes (Pattented by me). I also rule the stars as i have space fighters. You won't have any communication, and i doubt you outgeneral us. We shall see in the comming battles.

As an FYI...

Just so everyone knows Switzerland was mine first, I RP'd conquering it months ago, it was colored as mine on the damm map and somehow I come back and its been taken by Jonothana, I can only assume he is the aggressor by taking my territory, I'm only defending what is mine.

And as sidenote for Vineyard, go check out Soviet Bloc's and Doomingsland's storefront see how well you stack up against those badboys.

Sharina, it doesn't matter how many troops you have its the way you use them, don't think i need to name the examples in history that prove this point. Frankly, we will out general, outsmart and then utterly destroy you and your allies. Our technological edge due to our association with Soviet Bloc gives us a huge advantage.

But don't take my word for it just wait until we meet in battle and I send the shattered remmenants of your armed forces home ;)

Out general, eh?

I have considerable tactical experience under my belt. Watching the History channel, playing Civilization, and also playing chess does wonders. ;) Also, Vineyard is a good strategist in Rome Total War.

I am aware of the fact that 100 people can beat 200. This holds true for BOTH sides. You could take us down, but on the same token, Vineyard can take Kopparbergs down. Or I could take you down.

Basically, by your logic, any of us smaller nations can take you "big ones" down.


Also, we can pull off a WW II USSR. The USSR won aganist the Germans despite the Germans superior technology, because the USSR had the numbers.


Anything can go in this war. Just saying that "utterly destroy" won't happen short of total nuking of everything in Earth V, then there won't be an Earth V anymore. ;)


One last thing. I do have some advanced technologies of my own, including laser anti-missile systems, body armor, etc.

Right take into account your actions and DONT use nuclear weapons. You'll screw up the earth to point your'll have to abondon it due to radioactive fallout.

Offical Revertromance plee to the nations of the world; to not destroy it

Don't worry about nukes...

Remember NOT to post anything after a nuclear launch (besides un-realated items and attemps at shooting it down). I want to post my actions then.

Out general, eh?

I have considerable tactical experience under my belt. Watching the History channel, playing Civilization, and also playing chess does wonders. ;) Also, Vineyard is a good strategist in Rome Total War.

I am aware of the fact that 100 people can beat 200. This holds true for BOTH sides. You could take us down, but on the same token, Vineyard can take Kopparbergs down. Or I could take you down.

Basically, by your logic, any of us smaller nations can take you "big ones" down.


Also, we can pull off a WW II USSR. The USSR won aganist the Germans despite the Germans superior technology, because the USSR had the numbers.


Anything can go in this war. Just saying that "utterly destroy" won't happen short of total nuking of everything in Earth V, then there won't be an Earth V anymore. ;)


One last thing. I do have some advanced technologies of my own, including laser anti-missile systems, body armor, etc.
Damn right! I have a winning record in RTW! I don't exactly keep count anymore, but its something like 60 wins 20 losses.

Nevermind *SERCRET* and locked away so not even I can look at it

Remember Revertromance + Norleans = neutral

OOC:

I have built up a lot of SDI and anti-missile defenses, so a nuke attack aganist my nation would be futile. You'd need to send 1,000 nukes just to hope to have 1 get through my SDI defenses.

You see, I've packed microwave SDI defenses every 600 meters along my Veris-Wall. The Veris-Wall runs the ENTIRE border of my nation (land and coast), and I've RP'ed construction of it in Earth V.

What's more, I have SDI vehicles, as well as additional static SDI turrets around all major cities, enhancing my anti-nuke defense even further.

I have a space station, some satellites, and some space shuttles with weapons on them, namely railguns.


So even if you guys start nuking each other, probably the only inhabitable area left would be North America, thanks to my SDI systems. ;)


At any rate, SDI or not, I must request that nukes are NOT to be used, as it would ruin all Earth V RP'ing, present and future.

If nukes are used, I will request a new Earth V to be created, where the radiation and crap does not exist. :)

Hmm. Numbers may not always mean victory. The Greeks proved this aganist the Persians during Alexander The Great's campaigns.

In addition, defenders have a decided advantage over invaders, for quite a few reasons.

1. Logistics
2. Shorter distance to deploy troops / material.
3. More people are willing to support a defensive war as opposed to supporting an invasion.
4. Defenders know their terrain much better than the invaders.
5. Defenders can hide or spring surprises more successfully than invaders.

I can think of some more reasons.


Basically, if it was a 1 vs 1 war between Sharina and Tenebrocosis, it'd probably end up a 50 / 50 chance if Tenebrocosis invades, and perhaps a 40 / 60 chance in favor of Tenebrocosis if I invade him.

Also, successful use of tactics can allow 100 men to take out 200 men, or even 500 men if executed properly.


But of course. Just wanted to make sure you knew my statistics. Remember, the Tenebri military doesn't even supply troops with helmets, so you can imagine what training is like.



Actually, it's rather good.

Wirraway's side:

Wirraway: 1,411,000,000.
Doomingsland: 1,397,000,000.
Kopparbergs: 908,00,000.

Total: 3,716,000,000.

Jonothana's side:

Jonothana: 1,457,000,000.
Sharina: 924,000,000.
Celack: 4,051,000,000.
Vineyard: 467,000,000.

Total: 6,889,000,000.


You forgot me!

Wirraway's side:

Wirraway: 1,411,000,000.
Doomingsland: 1,397,000,000.
Kopparbergs: 908,00,000.

Total: 3,716,000,000.

Jonothana's side:

Jonothana: 1,457,000,000.
Sharina: 924,000,000.
Celack: 4,051,000,000.
Vineyard: 467,000,000.
USSNA: 1,673,000,000.

Total: 8,652,000,000.


Also, you seem to think you have a technological edge. I think on naval terms I have that advantage. Because of how my nation is located I have most of my forces in the navy.

--Military Bulliton--
In a suprising move, 1,000,000 men from the Mainlands are boarding on ships bound for Ireland. The porpose for this movement is unknown, but some speculate that Lord Vineyard II is stationing the troops there for the comming World War.

Whoops, USSNA. I apologize!

There has been so many posts lately it's kinda getting hard to keep track of who's doing what. :(

Out general, eh?

I have considerable tactical experience under my belt. Watching the History channel, playing Civilization, and also playing chess does wonders. ;) Also, Vineyard is a good strategist in Rome Total War.

I am aware of the fact that 100 people can beat 200. This holds true for BOTH sides. You could take us down, but on the same token, Vineyard can take Kopparbergs down. Or I could take you down.

Basically, by your logic, any of us smaller nations can take you "big ones" down.


Also, we can pull off a WW II USSR. The USSR won aganist the Germans despite the Germans superior technology, because the USSR had the numbers.


Anything can go in this war. Just saying that "utterly destroy" won't happen short of total nuking of everything in Earth V, then there won't be an Earth V anymore. ;)


One last thing. I do have some advanced technologies of my own, including laser anti-missile systems, body armor, etc.
Hehehe, you've got no idea what you're dealing with...

((BTW dropping stuff from space wont work. AA missles do wounders on them))

so everyone ignores my post about Switzerland orginally being mine....

((BTW dropping stuff from space wont work. AA missles do wounders on them))
OOC:Why would I drop stuff from space?

((BTW dropping stuff from space wont work. AA missles do wounders on them))

Depends. If you fire small missiles, then perhaps.

But if you fire large missiles or tungsten rods, that would be harder to destroy.

Mass / velocity. Taking down a 100 pound missile is very easy compared to taking out a 1 ton solid metal artillery shell, or 1 ton tingsten rod.

Depends. If you fire small missiles, then perhaps.

But if you fire large missiles or tungsten rods, that would be harder to destroy.

Mass / velocity. Taking down a 100 pound missile is very easy compared to taking out a 1 ton solid metal artillery shell, or 1 ton tingsten rod.

Well you see, an AA missle would hit a 1 ton projectile and break up it's surface. Then under the heat of it's own reentry it would disintigrate. These big solid projectiles must be shaped correctly or else they burn up in reentry.

Well you see, an AA missle would hit a 1 ton projectile and break up it's surface. Then under the heat of it's own reentry it would disintigrate. These big solid projectiles must be shaped correctly or else they burn up in reentry.

Okay. Lets take a look at that.

A 1 ton solid metal projectile would be more dense than an meteor or asteroid of similiar "volume area". It would take some time for the projectile to melt completely, but before then, the projectile would most likely hit Earth's surface.

Failing that, the projectiles could always be thermally coated like the Space Shuttles.


Also, AA missiles have a ceiling of 10 - 25 km. That wouldn't give the incoming 1 ton projectile much time to "melt away" before ground impact. If this occurred at 60 km or more, then perhaps.

Okay. Lets take a look at that.

A 1 ton solid metal projectile would be more dense than an meteor or asteroid of similiar "volume area". It would take some time for the projectile to melt completely, but before then, the projectile would most likely hit Earth's surface.

Failing that, the projectiles could always be thermally coated like the Space Shuttles.


Also, AA missiles have a ceiling of 10 - 25 km. That wouldn't give the incoming 1 ton projectile much time to "melt away" before ground impact. If this occurred at 60 km or more, then perhaps.

I never said it would melt. It would break up. The AA missile would break away any protection it has from heat.

I WANT EVERYONE TO LOOK AT THIS AND THEN SEE TGSR'S APPROVAL WHICH IS POSTED BELOW MY INVASION. SWITZERLAND WAS MINE AND CONTINUES TO BE MINE.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=368217&page=44&pp=15

Can we stop this bickering, we have gotten nowhere. You have proven that TGSR did in fact approve your claim, but somehow put it down wrong. This post was made AFTER the one you have just posted:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...and#post7621751

Can we stop this bickering, we have gotten nowhere. You have proven that TGSR did in fact approve your claim, but somehow put it down wrong. This post was made AFTER the one you have just posted:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...and#post7621751

link isn't working USSNA, just copy and paste it becuase I'm not sure what you mean.

The Great Sixth Reich
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,876
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirraway
I have Switzerland, I invaded it a while ago.


All your invasions have been recognized, but I still need an offical telegram list of nations invaded by you.

But I'm still not sure about Switzerland. KM had it, and he never posted except to give his terrorities to Jonathana.

I'm YOUR ALLY! We are both fighting on the side of Jonothana. Be my guest and sink your reinforcements though.
No No No! Not you!!!!! I'm talking about Kop's idea to assault the canal.

Also


Quite doubtful.

Lets see....

Wirraway's side:

Wirraway: 1,411,000,000.
Doomingsland: 1,397,000,000.
Kopparbergs: 908,00,000.

Total: 3,716,000,000.

Jonothana's side:

Jonothana: 1,457,000,000.
Sharina: 924,000,000.
Celack: 4,051,000,000.
Vineyard: 467,000,000.

Total: 6,889,000,000.



As you can see, Celack is bigger than the WHOLE "Wirraray Alliance", and the combined population of "Jonothana Alliance" is nearly DOUBLE of "Wirraray Alliance".

ME crush puny opponents!!!!!! I am huge!!!!!!11!!!!!!one!

The Great Sixth Reich
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirraway
I have Switzerland, I invaded it a while ago.


All your invasions have been recognized, but I still need an offical telegram list of nations invaded by you.

But I'm still not sure about Switzerland. KM had it, and he never posted except to give his terrorities to Jonathana.


Ahh, yes. In this case I cite the example of Sir Peter the Sage, he claimed territories in the US but faield to post again after that. Sharina or someone occupying the US asked TGSR if he could count Peter's territories as nuetral since he had yet to post. TGSR agreed and the country annexed Peter's holdings. KM is the same, he failed to post so I counted his holdings as nuetral when I invaded. I can dig this up for you if you want, but I hope that you take my word for it. Sifting through this thread is no fun.

Ahh, yes. In this case I cite the example of Sir Peter the Sage, he claimed territories in the US but faield to post again after that. Sharina or someone occupying the US asked TGSR if he could count Peter's territories as nuetral since he had yet to post. TGSR agreed and the country annexed Peter's holdings. KM is the same, he failed to post so I counted his holdings as nuetral when I invaded. I can dig this up for you if you want, but I hope that you take my word for it. Sifting through this thread is no fun.

Yup, that was me.

I do agree that this thread is getting ridicliously LONG. We're nearing the 2500th post mark.

Lets just let someone else decide... TGSR!

Also, I can easily take on Doomingsland 1 vs 1, or at the very least tie him up so bad he can't send help to Wirraway if he comes under attack from either Celack, Vineyard, or Jonothana. ;)
OOC:If you seriously think that, than I will take you in a one on one to see if you can put your money where your mouth is.

ATTENTION - WORLD WAR THREAD CREATED! TAKE IT THERE!!!


EARTH V - Swiss World War (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7987255#post7987255)

The Nation of Norleans thanks you for your support. :)

Message to RevertRomance:

Hey, did you get your new cars from Mauiwowee? Are they cool or what? :D He can make them with all kinds of neato extras like gatling guns, DVD players, etc. as well.

Have a nice day.

Duke Huey P. Long, III
Norleans.

OOC:If you seriously think that, than I will take you in a one on one to see if you can put your money where your mouth is.

I am basing this off two factors.

Factor #1:

Sharina:

GDP Per Capita: $36,837.19
Unemployment Rate: 3.10%
Defence: $5,119,414,068,938.40 15%

Doomingsland:

GDP Per Capita: $30,810.91
Unemployment Rate: 4.56%
Defence: $4,127,642,627,908.80 41%


Factor #2:

Tactics, along with a huge tract of land that would take you a while to subjugate / suppress.



I said that I could take you 1 vs 1, or make you busy / occupied that you would risk losing ground to me if you reinforce Wirraway or Kopparbergs.

I never said I'd "roll over you", defeat you easily, or wipe the floor with you. I was saying that I'd have a 50 / 50 chance with you, more than enough to keep you busy during Earth V World War.

It definitely won't be "Utterly Crush Sharina" like Wirraway claimed. That was the point I was trying to make. I am and will put up a fierce fight, equal to any fight any "big" nation would give.

Another point I'm trying to make is that just because a nation has a bigger population doesn't mean that it automatically wins war because of it.

Encrypted message to Task Force Snowstar

Auth: Supr.Comm.Kpbgs
Att: Snowstar
Ord: Leave the reinforcement place outside Cyprus.
Send Snowstar I, II and III to position GPS#432 outside Egypt.
Look behind the trees, might be some rotten apples there.
Hold fire. This is an orange class mission.

OOC: Snowstar I, II and III are three ships: one Arizona class battle ship, one Iowa class cruiser and one Virginia class submarine. They're heading towards the southeastern corner of the Mediterranean. They will stop about 100 miles from Port Said, the opening of the Suez-canal.

Whittier announces the full integration of Tanzania, Seychelles and Comorros in to the UPR.

Greetings, my friend King Carl Oscar V,

I am glad to hear that you have accepted my bid. It shall usher into a new age of prosperity for both our peoples.

I am sending not 2.8 trillion dollars, but instead, I am sending 3 trillion dollars as a gesture of friendship and goodwill. In addition, my other incentives shall take effect immediately.

I shall send two full carrier groups from the Sharina Pacific Navy to Ecaudor, along with five divisions of Army, and two divisions of the Air Force to help secure Ecauador, as well as putting down any riots until proper police forces can be trained.

The governmental officials, the Air Force, and the marines will arrive within two days, while the rest shall arrive by the end of the week.

I look forward to having more dealings, relationships, trade, and more solid friendship with your nation.

Live well and prosper,
President Rand Veristek
Thank you for the extra money. We appreciate your generous attitude. We hope that you will enjoy your new country, we leave it to you in a good condition.

To bad we're on opposite sides in the uprising conflict in Europe, but I'm sure that we can continue with this good relations despite that.

With all respect,
King Carl Oscar V, Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Thank you for the extra money. We appreciate your generous attitude. We hope that you will enjoy your new country, we leave it to you in a good condition.

To bad we're on opposite sides in the uprising conflict in Europe, but I'm sure that we can continue with this good relations despite that.

With all respect,
King Carl Oscar V, Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Rand smiled as he read King Carl Oscar's message, and then frowned slightly when he scanned that the implications of Sharina and Kopparbergs being in opposite sides sank in.

He shook his head slightly, before composing a response.

Perhaps there's a solution. There must be.

Suddenly, a figurative light-bulb formed in his mind, and Rand smiled once again as the last vestiges of his frown disappeared into the never-ending flow of time.

==========================================================
Quad encrypted secret tranmission to King Carl Oscar V:

Greetings, friend.

I have taken note that we have took stances on opposing sides in the inevitable conflict. I have several thoughts how to prevent our nations from becoming enemies.

First, how about a secret cease-fire? Sharina forces will take extreme caution not to engage your forces, and you can do likewise.

Second, I shall not order any attacks whatsoever aganist your holdings in South America, notably Argentina.

If your forces are mixed with Doomingsland forces or Wirrawayan forces, my forces will target their forces exclusively, leaving your troops and formations un-touched. Sharina has some excellent precision weapons that are capable of this feat.

Would this deal be possible, and is it possible if we could make it work both ways? I truly do not want to war with you, but I risk the wrath of my allies if I do not participate in the battle aganist Doomingsland and Wirraway.

In addition, fate has dealt me a cruel and unusual twist. I am apparently going to be allied to one of my enemies, namely Vineyard. How times change.

I truly hope our two nations can avoid war and bloodshed aganist each other.

Live well and prosper.
~President Rand Veristek

OOC: The transmission to Kopparbergs in my previous post above this one is ULTRA-secret. This was transmitted on a wire from Ecaudor to Argentina, providing no chance for interception by any side involved in the impeding world war.

Message to RevertRomance:

Hey, did you get your new cars from Mauiwowee? Are they cool or what? :D He can make them with all kinds of neato extras like gatling guns, DVD players, etc. as well.

Have a nice day.

Duke Huey P. Long, III
Norleans.

Yes, i can say my king and parliment quite injoy them

OOC: The transmission to Kopparbergs in my previous post above this one is ULTRA-secret. This was transmitted on a wire from Ecaudor to Argentina, providing no chance for interception by any side involved in the impeding world war.

OOC: You mean the wire that runs through Brazil? :D Just kidding!!!!

I do have an IC message to you, but I'm posting it here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7987255#post7987255

OCC: Sharina do yourself a favor and don't even try to take my holdings in Canada.


http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7628141#post7628141

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Meanwhile, in South East China, our troops . . .

OOC: I'll finish up later, got to get to work.

so everyone ignores my post about Switzerland orginally being mine....

What happened was this:

Tizerland wasn't active, so you invaded. KM then gave it to me, and I am active, thus your attack becomes godmodding. But, by all means, attack me.

OCC: Sharina do yourself a favor and don't even try to take my holdings in Canada.


http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...141#post7628141

Moon bases? Hypersonic bombers?

TGSR has said that there will be no FT involved in Earth V.

If TGSR allows the moon base and hypersonic bombers, I will introduce my own FT to counter these. Namely a space station with weapons, dozens of attack satellites, laser / microwave beam anti-aircraft point-defense, and hypersonic missiles. ;)

What happened was this:

Tizerland wasn't active, so you invaded. KM then gave it to me, and I am active, thus your attack becomes godmodding. But, by all means, attack me.


He can't just give it away after I've invaded. He failed to ever RP his nation and besides gave it away weeks after I had stated that Switzerland was under my control. Switzerland is part of my Empire, TGSR recognized it and the precedent was set with Sharina's annexation if Sir Peter the Sage's holdings. You are violating my borders, now leave.

OOC:

I have built up a lot of SDI and anti-missile defenses, so a nuke attack aganist my nation would be futile. You'd need to send 1,000 nukes just to hope to have 1 get through my SDI defenses.

You see, I've packed microwave SDI defenses every 600 meters along my Veris-Wall. The Veris-Wall runs the ENTIRE border of my nation (land and coast), and I've RP'ed construction of it in Earth V.

What's more, I have SDI vehicles, as well as additional static SDI turrets around all major cities, enhancing my anti-nuke defense even further.

I have a space station, some satellites, and some space shuttles with weapons on them, namely railguns.


So even if you guys start nuking each other, probably the only inhabitable area left would be North America, thanks to my SDI systems. ;)


At any rate, SDI or not, I must request that nukes are NOT to be used, as it would ruin all Earth V RP'ing, present and future.

If nukes are used, I will request a new Earth V to be created, where the radiation and crap does not exist. :)

Yea, but we can still threaten to use nuclear weapons... >:)

Yea, but we can still threaten to use nuclear weapons... >:)

Hehe. I have no problem with that. Nuking ships or small islands could still work.

I do like some "barking" myself, and intimidation factors as it adds a new dimension to diplomacy. :)

He can't just give it away after I've invaded. He failed to ever RP his nation and besides gave it away weeks after I had stated that Switzerland was under my control. Switzerland is part of my Empire, TGSR recognized it and the precedent was set with Sharina's annexation if Sir Peter the Sage's holdings. You are violating my borders, now leave.

That's what the war is for. We're not leaving.

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He can't just give it away after I've invaded. He failed to ever RP his nation and besides gave it away weeks after I had stated that Switzerland was under my control. Switzerland is part of my Empire, TGSR recognized it and the precedent was set with Sharina's annexation if Sir Peter the Sage's holdings. You are violating my borders, now leave.

This is an incorret statement. TGSR then backed out of his decision and never made it clear who owned switzerland. I fear that it is only him that can now make the decision.

I quote from TGSR

All your invasions have been recognized, but I still need an offical telegram list of nations invaded by you.

But I'm still not sure about Switzerland. KM had it, and he never posted except to give his terrorities to Jonathana.

This statement effectivly voided your invasion. Only TGSR has the decision to make this clear now.

That's what the war is for. We're not leaving.

Well how the how the hell did you get in?

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Good! :)

Moon bases? Hypersonic bombers?

TGSR has said that there will be no FT involved in Earth V.

If TGSR allows the moon base and hypersonic bombers, I will introduce my own FT to counter these. Namely a space station with weapons, dozens of attack satellites, laser / microwave beam anti-aircraft point-defense, and hypersonic missiles. ;)


None of which is considered Future Tech, we went to the moon in 1969,
and Russia has had the so called underwater missiles sense the 1970's. We now have hypersonic aircraft that is capable of mach ten or better.The
Space Station is an exact double for the International Space Station. The
Shuttle is the one we now use. We have had lasers & microwave weaponry
for years. So what exactly is your point? Apparently I was right ... you figured that my property was next for your ambition. And now you have run up against someone you can't bully. As I said do yourself a favor, and leave my property alone.

P.S. If you bring in " real future tech " I will do the same.

None of which is considered Future Tech, we went to the moon in 1969,
and Russia has had the so called hypersonic missiles sense the 1970's. The
Space Station is an exact dounle for the International Space Station. The
Shuttle is the one we now use. We have had lasers & microwave weaponry
for years. So what exactly is your point? Apparently you figured that my
property was next for your ambition. And now you have run up against
someone you can't bully. As I said do your self a favor, and leave my property alone.

Okay.

Where are there hypersonic bombers RL? Blackbird jets don't count as they are spy planes, not bombers.

Moon base? That might be possible, I admit. However, you won't have artifical gravity, and people living there would need to do a lot of activity to maintain their health. People can't stay in space for sustained periods of time without centifrugal gravity.

Your moon base would require lots of resources and material to make the whole base centifrugal.

Keep in mind, you have two territories, and you'd be hard pressed to produce enough natural resources to do your space program, moon base, thousands of bombers, etc.

However, I have far more land to draw natural resources from, as I control nearly the whole Rocky mountains, considerable resources in Alaska and Mexico, and some extra resources from Ecaudor.

So in terms of resources, I'm able to build lots and lots of stuff compared to many other nations.

Okay.

Where are there hypersonic bombers RL? Blackbird jets don't count as they are spy planes, not bombers.

Moon base? That might be possible, I admit. However, you won't have artifical gravity, and people living there would need to do a lot of activity to maintain their health. People can't stay in space for sustained periods of time without centifrugal gravity.

The Blackbird is obsolete, the aircraft I have is presently being used.
Its been thirty plus years sense we went to the moon. Do you mean to tell me that you don't think we could build a moon base right now if we wished too? People are living in space aboard the International Space Station.

Your moon base would require lots of resources and material to make the whole base centifrugal.

Keep in mind, you have two territories, and you'd be hard pressed to produce enough natural resources to do your space program, moon base, thousands of bombers, etc.

However, I have far more land to draw natural resources from, as I control nearly the whole Rocky mountains, considerable resources in Alaska and Mexico, and some extra resources from Ecaudor.

So in terms of resources, I'm able to build lots and lots of stuff compared to many other nations.


I'm an older nation then you, I have an entire planet in the Amdromeda
Galaxy that I have colonized. So are you sure you have more land available to you? Don't even try to say your economy is more powerful then mine, I also run two store fronts. You will leave my property and my allies property alone or I will declare war on youand take all of your Earth V property. If you leave us alone, I will leave you alone ... your decision.

(dude this is Earth V anything outside Earth V isnt reconized in Earth V. Also a moon base is possible, but it would drain a lot of resources and wouldn't be of much military value. As for the space station, ever notice who it has become a flop? Hypersonic planes in earth V is an iffy subject. We are only testing this technology IRL and the first one broke up. You might have hypersonic bombers, but they wouldn't carry much yet. I think that is more along the lines of 2025-2030.

(dude this is Earth V anything outside Earth V isnt reconized in Earth V. Also a moon base is possible, but it would drain a lot of resources and wouldn't be of much military value. As for the space station, ever notice who it has become a flop? Hypersonic planes in earth V is an iffy subject. We are only testing this technology IRL and the first one broke up. You might have hypersonic bombers, but they wouldn't carry much yet. I think that is more along the lines of 2025-2030.

Dude ... recognize this ... this is between Sharina and me, so stay out of it.

I will not stay out of it as it affects Earth V as a whole. I dont want to argue with you but this is on Earth, not on another planet.

Good! :)

You should know...

I will not stay out of it as it affects Earth V as a whole. I dont want to argue with you but this is on Earth, not on another planet.

If you are truely concerned about Earth V as a whole then you should be
more concerned about Sharina's actions then about mine. I have minded my own business until now, Sharina has done nothing but get more & more land
greedy. How long will it be befor ehe comes after your land too? I'm not interested in conquering anyone and stealing their land, I only wish to live
in peace and be left alone. What I have said stands regardless of what you or anyone else says, I will leave him alone if he leaves me & my allies alone. Otherwise there will be trouble.

Dude ... recognize this ... this is between Sharina and me, so stay out of it.
Well, your "Moon station" ain't going to be getting any supplies for years until you pay me Space Tax.

200 spacefighters of the Vineyardian arsonal began to approach the moon.
::Alright, i don't want one shuttle going to or from that station, because we own the stars. err... the galaxy... err... ok, mabye just a small spacestation currently orbiting mars.::
::Small!?!?! You call that thing small!?!?!? Its a freggin' skyscraper!::
::Not now. Some one might intercept this transmission. We can't risk the national secret being revealed. Then we would have to explain where all of the metals and minerals mined in the Mainland mountains aree going, and where surplus food goes. Just prevent any and all spacecraft from entering or leaving the moon, unless they pay a toll. Do not shoot them down unless they refuse to return to their departure point. Got it? ::
::Yes sir!::

Well, your "Moon station" ain't going to be getting any supplies for years until you pay me Space Tax.

200 spacefighters of the Vineyardian arsonal began to approach the moon.
::Alright, i don't want one shuttle going to or from that station, because we own the stars. err... the galaxy... err... ok, mabye just a small spacestation currently orbiting mars.::
::Small!?!?! You call that thing small!?!?!? Its a freggin' skyscraper!::
::Not now. Some one might intercept this transmission. We can't risk the national secret being revealed. Then we would have to explain where all of the metals and minerals mined in the Mainland mountains aree going, and where surplus food goes. Just prevent any and all spacecraft from entering or leaving the moon, unless they pay a toll. Do not shoot them down unless they refuse to return to their departure point. Got it? ::
::Yes sir!::


OCC: Go Fuck Yourself Vineyard, don't start something you can't finish. Do you really want me to bring in my starfighter carrier/s from Earth?

I'm an older nation then you, I have an entire planet in the Amdromeda
Galaxy that I have colonized. So are you sure you have more land available to you? Don't even try to say your economy is more powerful then mine, I also run two store fronts. You will leave my property and my allies property alone or I will declare war on youand take all of your Earth V property. If you leave us alone, I will leave you alone ... your decision.

Sorry to burst your bubble of superiority, Kormanthor...

Earth V = absouletely NO galactic empires, interplanetary trade, FTL travel, etc.

That means you are limited ONLY to the planet Earth for all Earth V stuff.


Second, I have made it clear that I desire to unify West USA, West Canada, and Latin America. Ecuador and Caribbean holdings are my only other possessions. After that, I won't be invading or wanting more land. I do not want land in Africa, Asia, Australia, or Europe.

Let me ask youa question. If I was such a greedy land-monger, I would be tryuing to take as many unclaimed lands as I can. I would be invading Africa, Europe, Asia, etc.

Yet I am not. I am content to be an North America empire, with holdings in Caribbean and one state in South America (Ecaudor). The only reasons I wanted Ecaudor was to gain one state in South America, and become able to solidfy trade / relations with all S.H.I.T. nations in South America.

I am quite content to leave Middle USA to Norleans, and East USA / East Canada to Fodmodmatol.

Sorry to burst your bubble of superiority, Kormanthor...

Earth V = absouletely NO galactic empires, interplanetary trade, FTL travel, etc.

That means you are limited ONLY to the planet Earth for all Earth V stuff.


Second, I have made it clear that I desire to unify West USA, West Canada, and Latin America. Ecuador and Caribbean holdings are my only other possessions. After that, I won't be invading or wanting more land. I do not want land in Africa, Asia, Australia, or Europe.

Let me ask youa question. If I was such a greedy land-monger, I would be tryuing to take as many unclaimed lands as I can. I would be invading Africa, Europe, Asia, etc.

Yet I am not. I am content to be an North America empire, with holdings in Caribbean and one state in South America (Ecaudor). The only reasons I wanted Ecaudor was to gain one state in South America, and become able to solidfy trade / relations with all S.H.I.T. nations in South America.

I am quite content to leave Middle USA to Norleans, and East USA / East Canada to Fodmodmatol.

Maybe you should tell Vineyard that, he's the one with Starfighters approaching the moon.

OCC: Go Fuck Yourself Vineyard, don't start something you can't finish. Do you really want me to bring in my starfighter carrier from Earth?

Starfighters (beyond space shuttles and modern era satellites) = FT and not allowed on Earth V. I mean fighters like TIE's, X-wings, etc. aren't allowed.

FTL ships not allowed in Earth V universe.


For all intents and purposes, you are a Modern Tech nation in the 2000 - 2020 range in Earth V, limited to 2000 - 2020 tech. No 2100+ AD tech.



Also your attitude leaves much to be desired. "Go fuck yourself" is very immature.

TGSR and Kopparbergs, I apologize, but this is getting really stupid. When people act so immature like that, in any RP community like NS, it irritates me. Even Vineyard and Doomingsland chilled their attitudes like mature people, after their arguing during the Vineyard - Doomingsland war in Yugoslavia.

Sorry to burst your bubble of superiority, Kormanthor...

Earth V = absouletely NO galactic empires, interplanetary trade, FTL travel, etc.

That means you are limited ONLY to the planet Earth for all Earth V stuff.


Second, I have made it clear that I desire to unify West USA, West Canada, and Latin America. Ecuador and Caribbean holdings are my only other possessions. After that, I won't be invading or wanting more land. I do not want land in Africa, Asia, Australia, or Europe.

Let me ask youa question. If I was such a greedy land-monger, I would be tryuing to take as many unclaimed lands as I can. I would be invading Africa, Europe, Asia, etc.

Yet I am not. I am content to be an North America empire, with holdings in Caribbean and one state in South America (Ecaudor). The only reasons I wanted Ecaudor was to gain one state in South America, and become able to solidfy trade / relations with all S.H.I.T. nations in South America.

I am quite content to leave Middle USA to Norleans, and East USA / East Canada to Fodmodmatol.


Apparently you have missed the point of this entire exercise ... so I will
remind you. You have all but surrounded me in canada, your next step is
painfully obvious. That is why I have sent you a message, and given you a choice. YOU are the aggressor here Sharina, not me. If you are willing to
leave my property alone then we don't have a problem, otherwise you have
a big problem and if you push me I will take my beef with you out of Earth V
as well.

Starfighters (beyond space shuttles and modern era satellites) = FT and not allowed on Earth V. I mean fighters like TIE's, X-wings, etc. aren't allowed.

FTL ships not allowed in Earth V universe.


For all intents and purposes, you are a Modern Tech nation in the 2000 - 2020 range in Earth V, limited to 2000 - 2020 tech. No 2100+ AD tech.



Also your attitude leaves much to be desired. "Go fuck yourself" is very immature.

TGSR and Kopparbergs, I apologize, but this is getting really stupid. When people act so immature like that, in any RP community like NS, it irritates me. Even Vineyard and Doomingsland chilled their attitudes like mature people, after their arguing during the Vineyard - Doomingsland war in Yugoslavia.


Don't lecture me Sharina, leave me alone or else ... period

Maybe you should tell Vineyard that, he's the one with Starfighters approaching the moon.
Oh? These are reconized by the International community because they are currently being designed in RL.

http://www.freewebs.com/kkenterprisesinc/spacefightersxplanes.htm
everything on that page is already patoned by me. ha.

Sharina why haven't you said anything to Vineyard after all he is the one with Starfighters in Earth V. I'm just mining the moon for minerals and flying
the ore back to my countrys by frieighter.

Apart from Space Stations and limited space access through shuttles and the the like I'll ignore anyone who claims a "galactic empire", Uber-technology or anything of that nature.

Apart from Space Stations and limited space access through shuttles and the the like I'll ignore anyone who claims a "galactic empire", Uber-technology or anything of that nature.
As in starwars? Lol, don't talk to me, thalk to Mr. Moon over there. Also, just to let you all know, on the sight it says they are aiming for light speed capibilities. i think its Bogus so i am now going to rp them without lightspeed. Which is really stupid. Moon colonies and mining mionerals on the moon is really stupid as well.

Apparently you have missed the point of this entire exercise ... so I will
remind you. You have all but surrounded me in canada, your next step is
painfully obvious. That is why I have sent you a message, and given you a choice. YOU are the aggressor here Sharina, not me. If you are willing to
leave my property alone then we don't have a problem, otherwise you have
a big problem and if you push me I will take my beef with you out of Earth V
as well.

First, I have RP'ed the conquest of all these lands I own.

Second, I continued RP'ing for well over 2 months, with absouletely no reaction from you.

Third, you were inactive in Earth V until the last 2 weeks, after months of no RP or interaction in Earth V.

Fourth, I have repeatedly made it clear that once I take your territory (before you suddenly became active) that I would not expand any further, or invade for additional land (exception to this is the Caribbean).

Fifth, I am content to have a North American empire, and not have ANY holdings or "sphere of influence" on other continents, with the exception of Ecaudor in South America.

Sixth, to summarize all this, my Imperalism is coming to an end once I finish unifying West Canada.

Seventh, I am not interested in having a "beef" with you outside of Earth V. For all intents and purposes, I consider each Earth / universe seperate. Wars, IC disagreements, rivalry, hatred, etc. in say, Earth III stay in Earth III.

I am not exactly on the same page as Vineyard as you can see from my IC actions in Earth V. But I could be best friends with Vineyard in Earth III or Earth IV because our rivalry and ideologies will stay seperate between both Earth's.

Last, you say you can draw resources and economy from your Andromeda planet. This would be a god-mod because Earth V is for MT era, not FT. For all intents and purposes, you are a 2 province nation with limited assets in space, and are forced to use space shuttles and similiar space technology. No FTL, no space cruisers, etc.

Numbers and bigger population DOES NOT mean an automatic win in warfare. Take a look at this map.

(Kopparbergs, I give you credit for your maps. I merely added lines on it to demostrate a point to Kormanthor).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Veristek/earthVmapresource.jpg

Black circles = representative of natural resource deposit areas in Sharina.
Red circles = representative of natural resource deposit areas in Kormanthor.

Now you can see I control far more resource rich areas than you, Kormanthor. You may have billions of people, but you would be hard pressed to build an overwhelming military machine with your... LIMITED... resource deposits.

You would struggle to produce 30,000 tanks, 100,000 cruise missiles, millions of infantry guns, etc. with what resources you have as laid out in that map.

I'm able to extract far more metal ore, minerals, etc. than you Kormanthor. I'd be able to build far more war material, because of this. I control the most resource rich areas in North America, compared to two Canadian provinces with medium deposits at best.

It's simple economics and mass. I have more iron, tungsten, uranium, etc. deposits, and I will factor this into warfare.

You'd be like Japan, and me like the USA in WW II. Japan had very little natural resources in its Home Islands, while the USA had practically millions of tons worth of metal and resource deposits.


I am being logical here, as any extra-solar system and 2020+ tech stuff is ignored and god-mod in Earth V universe. I am pretty sure that many Earth V'ers would agree with my assessment.

Sharina why haven't you said anything to Vineyard after all he is the one with Starfighters in Earth V. I'm just mining the moon for minerals and flying
the ore back to my countrys by frieighter.

I am willing to accept your moon mining, IF you can provide proof what material and resources are in the moon.

Also, the space freighters can be intercepted, or "pirated" or get interfered with, much easier than trucks and trains on Earth.

I am being logical here, as any extra-solar system and 2020+ tech stuff is ignored and god-mod in Earth V universe. I am pretty sure that many Earth V'ers would agree with my assessment.
I agree. Although, if i may point out, ya'll all have complet covering bodyarmor for your soldiers, which is really future tech. Such as doomingsland's soldiers having built in gas masks, infared, and flame resistant body armor that covers their ENTIRE body. Point made.

I agree. Although, if i may point out, ya'll all have complet covering bodyarmor for your soldiers, which is really future tech. Such as doomingsland's soldiers having built in gas masks, infared, and flame resistant body armor that covers their ENTIRE body. Point made.

I am aware of this. I am basing my armor off the ULTIMATE SOLDIER project the USA is working on. Here's a link...

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2004/n07272004_2004072705.html

This is well within the 2005 - 2020 timeframe.

Yea, those soliders are not FT. My troops have them, but I havent really have it documented anywhere. I should Rp at least their issueing to Special Forces groups. Then as time goes on, scaled down models. will be equiped to the regular army.

Yea, Vineyard I would consider those fighters of yours a god-mod. A fighter that skips on the atmosphere would be feasable though.

First, I have RP'ed the conquest of all these lands I own.

Second, I continued RP'ing for well over 2 months, with absouletely no reaction from you.

Third, you were inactive in Earth V until the last 2 weeks, after months of no RP or interaction in Earth V.

Fourth, I have repeatedly made it clear that once I take your territory (before you suddenly became active) that I would not expand any further, or invade for additional land (exception to this is the Caribbean).

Fifth, I am content to have a North American empire, and not have ANY holdings or "sphere of influence" on other continents, with the exception of Ecaudor in South America.

Sixth, to summarize all this, my Imperalism is coming to an end once I finish unifying West Canada.

Seventh, I am not interested in having a "beef" with you outside of Earth V. For all intents and purposes, I consider each Earth / universe seperate. Wars, IC disagreements, rivalry, hatred, etc. in say, Earth III stay in Earth III.

I am not exactly on the same page as Vineyard as you can see from my IC actions in Earth V. But I could be best friends with Vineyard in Earth III or Earth IV because our rivalry and ideologies will stay seperate between both Earth's.

Last, you say you can draw resources and economy from your Andromeda planet. This would be a god-mod because Earth V is for MT era, not FT. For all intents and purposes, you are a 2 province nation with limited assets in space, and are forced to use space shuttles and similiar space technology. No FTL, no space cruisers, etc.

Numbers and bigger population DOES NOT mean an automatic win in warfare. Take a look at this map.

(Kopparbergs, I give you credit for your maps. I merely added lines on it to demostrate a point to Kormanthor).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Veristek/earthVmapresource.jpg

Black circles = representative of natural resource deposit areas in Sharina.
Red circles = representative of natural resource deposit areas in Kormanthor.

Now you can see I control far more resource rich areas than you, Kormanthor. You may have billions of people, but you would be hard pressed to build an overwhelming military machine with your... LIMITED... resource deposits.

You would struggle to produce 30,000 tanks, 100,000 cruise missiles, millions of infantry guns, etc. with what resources you have as laid out in that map.

I'm able to extract far more metal ore, minerals, etc. than you Kormanthor. I'd be able to build far more war material, because of this. I control the most resource rich areas in North America, compared to two Canadian provinces with medium deposits at best.

It's simple economics and mass. I have more iron, tungsten, uranium, etc. deposits, and I will factor this into warfare.

You'd be like Japan, and me like the USA in WW II. Japan had very little natural resources in its Home Islands, while the USA had practically millions of tons worth of metal and resource deposits.


I am being logical here, as any extra-solar system and 2020+ tech stuff is ignored and god-mod in Earth V universe. I am pretty sure that many Earth V'ers would agree with my assessment.


I don't care ... if you want my countrys you will BUY them from me or I
will declare war on you in NS space where I can bring the full might of my
military to bear on you. I fact one ESSD should be able to take care of all
of you petty would be dictators on Earth V.

well good luck getting ignored then. :)

well good luck getting ignored then. :)


I can ignore too

You don't just make decisions concerning my countries without talking to
me first.

well you see, he attacks your country. You declare war on him in space. You get ingnored by every nation in Earth V. He gets your nation.

I don't care ... if you want my countrys you will BUY them from me or I
will declare war on you in NS space where I can bring the full might of my
military to bear on you. I fact one ESSD should be able to take care of all
of you petty would be dictators on Earth V.

Two things.

First, I don't RP in NS Earth, I RP in Earth Series. The only instances I do RP in NS Earth is to help friends, NATO, or alliances I'm involved with in conflicts.

Second, one problem with MT vs FT is that these RP's never work out, except for the extremely rare gem of a RP. It will be quite a while before I even transfer into Space Age or FT. That'd probably be this summer or next year at the rate I'm RP'ing with MT nations.

You don't just make decision concerning my countries without talking to
me first.

I understand that. But I must ask, where were you for 2 - 3 months between Sept / Oct. and this month? You could have said something about my wars in North America, or participated in Earth V more actively earlier.


All this aside, I am willing to make a deal with you. I will purchase your Canada holdings, then help you invade / colonize Africa or Asia to find you a better home. Or I could help you set up a much bigger colony on the moon.

well you see, he attacks your country. You declare war on him in space. You get ingnored by every nation in Earth V. He gets your nation.


I have ground weapons on Earth V that I will use to protect my countries.
The space forces won't be used on Earth V, it will be used elsewhere

well you see, he attacks your country. You declare war on him in space. You get ingnored by every nation in Earth V. He gets your nation.

Exactly.

I don't want Earth V to come to that, though.

All I want is West USA, West Canada, Latin America... and an island or two in the Caribbean, then my Imperialism will end. I won't invade any land in Africa, Asia, Europe, or Australia.

If you're upset about my land / size, look at Tenebrocosis. He has quite a good chunk of land compared to me. :)

All I wanted was to be left alone ... you don't want to do that so ...

Exactly.

I don't want Earth V to come to that, though.

All I want is West USA, West Canada, Latin America... and an island or two in the Caribbean, then my Imperialism will end. I won't invade any land in Africa, Asia, Europe, or Australia.

If you're upset about my land / size, look at Tenebrocosis. He has quite a good chunk of land compared to me. :)


Buy my land on Earth V and I will leave peacefully.

http://members.fortunecity.se/kopparbergs/asia.gif

These are Tenebrocosis lands in Asia. He has some land in Europe, namely European Russia.

China is about the size of the USA. Tenebrocisis lands can easily hold TWO China's in it, and he could try to annex Mongolia or other lands to increase his size even more.

http://members.fortunecity.se/kopparbergs/northamerica.gif

Here's my lands in North America. When you cram all my holdings, I come up to the size of 1.25 USA. Add the area of Mexico and the half dozen small Latin America countries to my West USA states. Then add Alaska. These alone would give me as much as 2/3 the USA in land area.

Then add my 4 Canadian territories. About 1/3 - 1/2 of the USA land size.

So it does come up to 1.25 - 1.5 size of the US. Tenebrocosis still has considerably more land than me even after adding all my land together.

All I wanted was to be left alone ... you don't want to do that so ...

I honestly didn't want war with you Kormanthor. I am perfectly willing to pay you, and help you invade / colonize Africa or Asia, or help you build more colonies on the moon. :)

Just buy the land from me, I no longer wish to have my name associated
with Earth V. I am not a conqueror, I only wish to found colonies and develop
them peacefully. Because of people like you all that isn't possible on Earth V.

I will also speak to VirginIncursion because I'm sure one of you all will feel
like you must have her territory as well.

Earth V is boring without imperialism.

I havent been here for a while, and I checked the maps that show Ramissle partially in Djibouti, which i have no clue about. Can someone tell me whats happening?

Earth V is boring without imperialism.

I havent been here for a while, and I checked the maps that show Ramissle partially in Djibouti, which i have no clue about. Can someone tell me whats happening?

I'm sick of dealing with imperialism is whats happening

Just buy the land from me, I no longer wish to have my name associated
with Earth V. I am not a conqueror, I only wish to found colonies and develop
them peacefully. Because of people like you all that isn't possible on Earth V.

Kormanthor, I only wanted to create an unified West North America. Honestly, once I purchase your Canada land, my imperialism will come to an end, followed by massive domestic build-up.

I am willing to pay you $6 trillion for both Canadian provinces. :)

Kormanthor, I only wanted to create an unified West North America. Honestly, once I purchase your Canada land, my imperialism will come to an end, followed by massive domestic build-up.

I am willing to pay you $6 trillion for both Canadian provinces. :)


Done .... My Canada forces will load up as quickly as possible and move to the moonbase temp. Until Kor Fleet Starships can come to pick them up and
take us home. Then the moonbase will be dismantled and taken when we go.
Sharina your imperialism might stop, but what about the rest of the imperialist
of Earth V? One of you said Earth V is boring without imperialism, so what are you all going to do to relieve the boredom?

Done .... My Canada forces will load up as quickly as possible and move to the moonbase temp. Until Kor Fleet Starships can come to pick them up and
take us home. Then the moonbase will be dismantled and taken when we go.

Thank you.

I am just glad that we avoided un-necessary bloodshed and deaths.

Hopefully we will meet again in space, under better terms several NS decades or centuries down the line.

Go in peace,
~President Rand Veristek

OOC:

Now my imperialism in North America has come to an end.


Operations will continue in the Caribbean. More detailed IC post regarding Kormanthor's sale and final annexation of Sasketchwan will come tonight or tomorrow.