NationStates Jolt Archive

Oh no! Did I dug my grave :eek:


....Fine, I'll create one once I'm back from 300 :p

If you don't want to/can't, I'll do it...

I need something to pass my time. I'm celebrating Easter this weekend and all, and I have a ton of homework over Easter Weekend, but I still want to do something....

I know! Does anyone want to declare war on me?

Granate, once we get things rolling in Svalbard, it will be....fun, to put it that way. It's late right now, I'll do it tomorrow.

@Kiwiland and DaeHan: AK-108's, although maybe not responding to the IC Thread, is still RPing in SYAE. Namely, he's involved in my Svalbard thread. Thus, I will tell him of the current situation on the Svalbard thread, and hopefully he will respond to you. Until then please don't assume he just ignored you. He's online, just not on all the threads.

It's strange, both Kiwiland and Dae have claimed that Cripteria has allowed them military access when he's away, too.

I never did do that. I only said I sent my forces in anyway because I received no response; it's not my problem if Cripteirans don't defend their own territorial integrity.

If you don't want to/can't, I'll do it...

I need something to pass my time. I'm celebrating Easter this weekend and all, and I have a ton of homework over Easter Weekend, but I still want to do something....

Nah its cool, seems interesting. Anyhow WP, I've made the thread at http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12520130#post12520130

:cool:

What year is it?

Futuris, we don't really have a set "year" so to say. For RPing purposes, mostly development of equipment, we use 12 days = one year, but other than that it is mostly fluid time.

In other news, since Kopparbergs appears to be gone longer than he intended/for good I would like to ask someone to take over the map editing duties, I would do it myself but alas photoshop hates me and it seems like every time I try to color in India on any map it ends up turning all of Asia that color.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3181/syaemaptj9.png

My attempt at the map. Also there's a number of players who have been inactive. I would hope they would be more active.

For the point, I think it's late 2010.

It's strange, both Kiwiland and Dae have claimed that Cripteria has allowed them military access when he's away, too.

I find it amusing that you assumed that I said he granted me access, when the truth is that I never considered the option a necessity (a miscalculation of who owns what), never replied to you or made any indication that I would simply ignore the fact that the MEC was blocking my route. If I didn't say anything, don't fill my mouth with your words.

I never did do that. I only said I sent my forces in anyway because I received no response; it's not my problem if Cripteirans don't defend their own territorial integrity.

Please ask before doing this - I'd hate to have a retroactive war, just because the MEC decides upon his return that you weren't allowed to cross his territory. I personally doubt it, but I'd rather err on the better side than the more lucrative one. Even if the MEC does not come back and his claims are voided, offer the local government an incentive to allow you to pass.

What year is it?

According to my calendar, it is currently the sixth/seventh month of 2013 {7th Year of the Gwangmu reign}.

According to my calendar, it is currently the sixth/seventh month of 2013 {7th Year of the Gwangmu reign}.

I thought every day was one month...in which it'd be October (I think) 2010...

DaeHan: Don't you think it's a little funny that you and I don't see eye to eye on the whole Benelux issue and yet are helping the same person in the UASR - Phoenician Leauge War?

DaeHan: Don't you think it's a little funny that you and I don't see eye to eye on the whole Benelux issue and yet are helping the same person in the UASR - Phoenician Leauge War?

I find it ironic, but not funny. And just because you help UASR doesn't mean I'll like you being in Benelux any more or less - they're two different issues. Call it a marriage of convenience :D.

I think I might leave SYAE. Found an RP I like, offsite.

It's called WorldAtWar if anyone wants to join, lots of nations open.

See ya, dudes.

I thought every day was one month...in which it'd be October (I think) 2010...

My Emperor was crowned on January 1st 2007, which was posted 2007 January 20.

Unless we're not operating on that scale... that's the calendar that I've been using for the whole duration of SYAE. In any case, it's still the 7th year of the Gwangmu Emperor - for a reference of the Han calendar, here's a listing of the years:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12231944&postcount=5

I think I might leave SYAE. Found an RP I like, offsite.

It's called WorldAtWar if anyone wants to join, lots of nations open.

See ya, dudes.

What a pity; I come back and people start leaving - maybe I should stay away longer.

I think I might leave SYAE. Found an RP I like, offsite.

It's called WorldAtWar if anyone wants to join, lots of nations open.

See ya, dudes.

So are you actually quitting or just warning us that you might do so in the future? You begin your post with a heads up sounding post and end it with what sounds like a farewell.

Please ask before doing this - I'd hate to have a retroactive war, just because the MEC decides upon his return that you weren't allowed to cross his territory. I personally doubt it, but I'd rather err on the better side than the more lucrative one. Even if the MEC does not come back and his claims are voided, offer the local government an incentive to allow you to pass.

....I'm still in Cripteria....

There goes one pain in my back. Only two more to go!

I kid, I kid.

My Emperor was crowned on January 1st 2007, which was posted 2007 January 20.

Unless we're not operating on that scale... that's the calendar that I've been using for the whole duration of SYAE. In any case, it's still the 7th year of the Gwangmu Emperor - for a reference of the Han calendar, here's a listing of the years:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12231944&postcount=5

Ahh, so you changed it. I had noticed a mistake in your calendar some time ago, but forgot to post about it.

So are you actually quitting or just warning us that you might do so in the future? You begin your post with a heads up sounding post and end it with what sounds like a farewell.

I'm gone.

Might come back though. Maybe.

Hmmmm.... I was wondering if anyone, baring those who don't like me because of my Benelux Operations, would work with me on some Military Technologies. Although Germany's military looks Technologically Sound, it has a few holes I would like to filll. Namely, the lack of LAV with a Mobile Gun System. I am currently working on a LAV called the Hellsing and I would be very happy to share developement with another country.

Ok, basically the Hellsing will be Lightly Armored Vehicle that can be modified to do many tasks. I haven't gone far into developement, so it wouldn't be too hard to incorporate another persons Military into it.

Hmmmm.... I was wondering if anyone, baring those who don't like me because of my Benelux Operations, would work with me on some Military Technologies. Although Germany's military looks Technologically Sound, it has a few holes I would like to filll. Namely, the lack of LAV with a Mobile Gun System. I am currently working on a LAV called the Hellsing and I would be very happy to share developement with another country.

Ok, basically the Hellsing will be Lightly Armored Vehicle that can be modified to do many tasks. I haven't gone far into developement, so it wouldn't be too hard to incorporate another persons Military into it.

That would be fun, mind if I join in? (BTW what do you mean by share development)

That would be fun, mind if I join in? (BTW what do you mean by share development)

Whatever you want. I can listen to what you want in an LAV and try to make the Hellsing fit what you need as well as what I need. As well as trying to keep it's price down.

Or, we could develope it together, I dunno how that would work, but we'd figure something out.

Whatever you want. I can listen to what you want in an LAV and try to make the Hellsing fit what you need as well as what I need. As well as trying to keep it's price down.

Or, we could develope it together, I dunno how that would work, but we'd figure something out.

I'm not too sure how we could develop it together either..... Well, Japan has a Future Wheeled Combat Vehicle programme going, so we could take that and fit German armour/weaponry on. That'd slash research time and cost by quite a lot.

I can also try CADing up the designs, too, if you're interested.,

I'm not too sure how we could develop it together either..... Well, Japan has a Future Wheeled Combat Vehicle programme going, so we could take that and fit German armour/weaponry on. That'd slash research time and cost by quite a lot.

I can also try CADing up the designs, too, if you're interested.,

Whatever you want. I'm still very early in the Hellsing's Developement.

Whatever you want. I'm still very early in the Hellsing's Developement.

Ok cool. On an (un)related note, take part in the world trade thread?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523381

Ok cool. On an (un)related note, take part in the world trade thread?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=523381

Is it just me or is interest dying in this sort of thing?

And as to my oil trade - I've never made any attempts to establish any SYAE - mostly because I was hoping to have a more stable environment in which I could definitively make useful trades. By the Year 10 of the Emperor Gwangmu, I expect to have a stable source of oil, although I am tentatively labelling the UASR and Kiwiland as possible primary sources, maybe even the MEC or Southeast Asia as well.

On the note about oil, I've got a few details to iron out.

I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again. According to Chinese prospectors, there are gobs of oil under the Spratly Islands - one additional spark that adds to any flame over the islands. In fact, most of the oil producers in the region {Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia} are siphoning oil from regions that border the periphery of the Islands' territorial domains. So while I don't expect to be granted full automatic usage of those oil fields {I will RP their development}, I was wondering if people would object to me declaring this as part of my proven reserves - since there is a RL basis for this declaration.

In addition to the Spratly Islands, I have another region that boasts potential oil reserves - more probable than possible. The west coast of North Korea has been largely underexploited in terms of its oil potential, principally because the current regime never thought to look into it. However, recently, a British expedition was granted permission to survey the west coast for potential oil deposits. The logic is that the region around the Yellow Sea {specifically around the Shandong Peninsula} boasts a large oil reservoir. Even the Shandong has been underexploited, because of its frequent history involving conflicts {pre-1900's Western colonialism, Japanese conquest following the 1894 Sino-Japanese War, the 2nd Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945), the Civil War continuation (1946-1949), and the Cultural Revolution (1954-1976)} - the region continues through the Yellow Sea up into North Korean Seas, which has been a source of some contention between Chinese and North Korean officials {the former wanting to exploit them, and the latter seeking "self-reliance"}. So anyway, I haven't found concrete numbers describing its potential reserve, but in any case, I want to know if people are also willing to permit this as a reserve. To state the obvious, this will not turn my country into a petrol-independent country, because I will not be able produce enough oil to manage the sort of economic growth that I currently possess.

Just to ask for some opinions on this matter.

I think some other things could be accomplished there too, like arms deals, seems like in the general IC thread requests for sales can get lost in all the excitement of the Jaredcohenia vs. everyone debate about the meaning on the word genocide and Daehanjeiguk's guides to being a better RPer. So, Newer Kiwiland, if you want to create a thread go ahead, I will put a link to it in the front page here, but you'll be responsible for updating the first post of that thread with anything that needs to be put there. ;)

Where? :confused:

one last note - I think that it's seriously time to consider trimming the list - as people are participating in other RPs more often than in this one, and it's rather unfair to the people who devote so much time into this one RP and then have everyone else forget about it. If they want stay in the other RPs, that's fine, but they have to be able to participate in this one as well. And plus, some people haven't even logged on in a long time.

one last note - I think that it's seriously time to consider trimming the list - as people are participating in other RPs more often than in this one, and it's rather unfair to the people who devote so much time into this one RP and then have everyone else forget about it. If they want stay in the other RPs, that's fine, but they have to be able to participate in this one as well. And plus, some people haven't even logged on in a long time.

Yes, I don't even know why the guy in the Congo is still here.

Here's a list of people on my shit list (AKA: The list you get on if you don't post)


East African Union, The

Congo--Kinshasa

Cortellan

Central American Alliance

Federal Republic of Nabea

Ebedron

Empire of Cripteria

Honako

IndioRazaRepublica

Kingdom of South Africa

Maryan

Republicas Unidas del Sur

United States of Canada

Greater United States, The

Wagdog


If you're on this list, post now!

Is it just me or is interest dying in this sort of thing?

And as to my oil trade - I've never made any attempts to establish any SYAE - mostly because I was hoping to have a more stable environment in which I could definitively make useful trades. By the Year 10 of the Emperor Gwangmu, I expect to have a stable source of oil, although I am tentatively labelling the UASR and Kiwiland as possible primary sources, maybe even the MEC or Southeast Asia as well.

On the note about oil, I've got a few details to iron out.

I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again. According to Chinese prospectors, there are gobs of oil under the Spratly Islands - one additional spark that adds to any flame over the islands. In fact, most of the oil producers in the region {Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia} are siphoning oil from regions that border the periphery of the Islands' territorial domains. So while I don't expect to be granted full automatic usage of those oil fields {I will RP their development}, I was wondering if people would object to me declaring this as part of my proven reserves - since there is a RL basis for this declaration.

In addition to the Spratly Islands, I have another region that boasts potential oil reserves - more probable than possible. The west coast of North Korea has been largely underexploited in terms of its oil potential, principally because the current regime never thought to look into it. However, recently, a British expedition was granted permission to survey the west coast for potential oil deposits. The logic is that the region around the Yellow Sea {specifically around the Shandong Peninsula} boasts a large oil reservoir. Even the Shandong has been underexploited, because of its frequent history involving conflicts {pre-1900's Western colonialism, Japanese conquest following the 1894 Sino-Japanese War, the 2nd Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945), the Civil War continuation (1946-1949), and the Cultural Revolution (1954-1976)} - the region continues through the Yellow Sea up into North Korean Seas, which has been a source of some contention between Chinese and North Korean officials {the former wanting to exploit them, and the latter seeking "self-reliance"}. So anyway, I haven't found concrete numbers describing its potential reserve, but in any case, I want to know if people are also willing to permit this as a reserve. To state the obvious, this will not turn my country into a petrol-independent country, because I will not be able produce enough oil to manage the sort of economic growth that I currently possess.

Just to ask for some opinions on this matter.

Given the hotly disputed status of the Spratleys, even though there's good information on how much oil lies down there, I think some RPing would be called for before its added to your reserves. I don't expect any of the other claimants would give up their tbh much more solid claims without a fight (in the metaphorical sense). If I remember correctly most other states in the dispute has also been claimed? Maybe you can call another conference about it.

I also think we should tread carefully about unproven reserves... Too easy to degenerate. Not saying that you shouldn't do some exploration and things like that, but it is probably more realistic if it is limited to ones there are reliable estimates for.

Well hello again everybody, St. Hilarion doesn't actually exist anymore, but thats pretty much irrelevant. What happened to the first SYAE (and Congo-Kinshasa?)

Big moment here, drum roll please.

Ok, enough with the gay shit, I finally finished my Army divisional breakdown. I ended up with 19 infantry divisions and seven armored. Of the 19 infantry divisions eight are mechanized, four are moutain, six are light and one is an airborne division, all seven armored divisions are the same. Here's a sample of what each division is like:

1st Light Infantry Division
- 3 Infantry Regiments (15,000 Troops)
- 1 Artillery Battalion (168 D-20)

Very basic unit, more of an occupation force than a combat unit.

7th Mechanized Infantry Division
- 3 Infantry Regiments (15,000 Troops)
- 1 Tank Regiment (72 T-72M1, 43 Leopard 2A4, 15 T-84)
- 1 Aviation Regiment (19 Mi-24, 12 Mi-2, 17 Mi-8, 2 Mi-26)
- 2 Light Armored Regiments (60 BMP-1, 40 BMP-2, 20 BMP-3, 20 BTR-80, 4 BTR-90 (command and control), 20 AMV 8x8, 5 Ulan (recon))
- 1 Artillery Regiment (48 2S1, 9 2S3, 168 D-20, 15 BM-21, 14 ShKH-77)

Meant to be used in conjunction with my armored divisions, the mechanized divisions form the potatoes of my offensive punch.

20th Airborne Division
- 2 Infantry Regiments (10,000 Troops)
- 2 Aviation Regiments (48 Mi-24, 24 Mi-2, 34 Mi-8, 4 Mi-26)
- 1 Light Armored Regiment (60 BMP-1, 40 BMP-2, 60 BMP-3, 20 BTR-80, 4 BTR-90 (command and control), 20 AMV 8x8, 5 Ulan (recon))

Devoid of any heavy equipment, the Airborne is designed so that the entire division can be transported by air and with the BMP-3's ability to be airdropped the Airborne can even be placed hundreds of miles in country with some heavy firepower.

21st Armored Division
- 3 Tank Regiments (159 PT-91, 297 T-84)
- 2 Infantry Regiments (10,000 Troops)
- 1 Light Armored Regiment (60 BMP-1, 40 BMP-2, 20 BMP-3, 20 BTR-80, 4 BTR-90 (command and control), 20 AMV 8x8, 5 Ulan (recon))
- 1 Artillery Regiment (390 M109, 14 2S5, 10 RM-70, 48 2S1, 9 2S3)
- 1 Aviation Regiment (19 Mi-24, 12 Mi-2, 17 Mi-8, 2 Mi-26)

Earlier I said the mechanized units were the potatoes of my offense, well here's the meat, the armored division. As per the general rules in RL armies around the world my armored divisions are more of an equal mix of armored and infantry units with artillery and aviation in support.

Thoughts? Suggestions? I know I am missing support elements and things such as command and control battalions, medical, engineering, etc., but in my own defense I am only human and this is all kind of new to me. Now I get to assign these units to bases, just in time for SYAE to die it appears. :(

I'm still here. As are DaeHan, Kiwiland, and Futuris. Everyone else, I am not sure of.

Alright, since Jared said he quits I removed him from the list, everyone on Granate's list has two days to post or their claims will be deleted also.

In other news, the collapse of the Balkan Union means we (that means you, Granate) will have to intervene in because there is mass chaos in the streets. Yeah, that's it, total chaos. That'll have to wait till after I eat though.

Alright, since Jared said he quits I removed him from the list, everyone on Granate's list has two days to post or their claims will be deleted also.

In other news, the collapse of the Balkan Union means we (that means you, Granate) will have to intervene in because there is mass chaos in the streets. Yeah, that's it, total chaos. That'll have to wait till after I eat though.

Sweet, dude.

Alright, since Jared said he quits I removed him from the list, everyone on Granate's list has two days to post or their claims will be deleted also.

In other news, the collapse of the Balkan Union means we (that means you, Granate) will have to intervene in because there is mass chaos in the streets. Yeah, that's it, total chaos. That'll have to wait till after I eat though.

I'll take some liberty in getting in on that...

I'll take some liberty in getting in on that...

You'll have to ask WP.

Out of interest, if all the people on that list were deleted, how many people would still be in SYAE?

Probably about six nations. Candistan, Granate, Deahanjeiguk, Amazonia Beasts, Kopparbergs (he should probably be added to the list though.) and Newer Kiwiland. Oh, UASR and the Pheneocian League too.

Surely you're going to have a majorly uninhabited earth then? And by the way, are you still open for people to join?

That screws up my diplomacy page... that's for certain.

We've been losing our pool of RPers to this one RP - EES or something like that. I'm not personally against hosting multiple countries, but they should at least devote an equal share to all of their RPs, or else the action in their neglected ones tends to slow down.

Given the hotly disputed status of the Spratleys, even though there's good information on how much oil lies down there, I think some RPing would be called for before its added to your reserves. I don't expect any of the other claimants would give up their tbh much more solid claims without a fight (in the metaphorical sense). If I remember correctly most other states in the dispute has also been claimed? Maybe you can call another conference about it.

I also think we should tread carefully about unproven reserves... Too easy to degenerate. Not saying that you shouldn't do some exploration and things like that, but it is probably more realistic if it is limited to ones there are reliable estimates for.

I understand the nature of the Spratly Isles - and I have already started an RP establishing an expedition to begin settling the area and exploiting the area (just prospecting at the moment - nothing serious). They have been added to the "claimed" reserves, but as far as I have been producing anything from it, I haven't even put in wells to extrude the oil.

And as far as my history cares to concern the islands, they have always been mine {historically, the French stole away the claims, when they took Vietnam in the 1885 Franco-Chinese War; that war never occured}. The only other people who would contest the claims historically would be Malaysia (product of British claims); Indonesia (product of Dutch claims); Vietnam (product of French claims); the Philippines and the ROC (I own them).


And I understand your apprehensions about unproven reserves - if it makes it any better, I do have some sources that indicate a high probability for oil reserves in the Spratly Islands. Unfortunately, I can only get a BBC article for the North Korean reserves, but I can keep looking until I definitively prove it.

Surely you're going to have a majorly uninhabited earth then? And by the way, are you still open for people to join?

We are always open for new people to join.

So about that Balkan Peace-Keeping mission?

Yeah, I umm, after supper I was kind of tricked into going to some sort of church service thing on campus, I guess it's a weekly thing, but that's why I didn't post something in the General IC thread. I should have a post up within the next hour.

kay.

Yeah, I umm, after supper I was kind of tricked into going to some sort of church service thing on campus, I guess it's a weekly thing, but that's why I didn't post something in the General IC thread. I should have a post up within the next hour.

I'll be sending troops from Algeria to the failed Balkan Union to help shore up the sit'. Don't know 'bout the rest of you.

I'd send a message to the EEU first. Just sending in troops has a way of backfiring, example: My Mission in the Benelux.

So about that Balkan Peace-Keeping mission?

I'll be sending troops from Algeria to the failed Balkan Union to help shore up the sit'. Don't know 'bout the rest of you.

Actually, my request would be that the Balkan Union never existed if that could remain possible.

Actually, my request would be that the Balkan Union never existed if that could remain possible.

So we're just going to forget the whole Armenia thing? Not happening, too much time was put into that to just have it disappear.

Actually, my request would be that the Balkan Union never existed if that could remain possible.

Yeah, um, as far as SYAE will be concerned your nation did exist but for whatever reason has collapsed.

Actually, my request would be that the Balkan Union never existed if that could remain possible.

Thought you were leaving? Why does it matter now?

Thought you were leaving? Why does it matter now?

I stated I might come back, and perhaps it is as the BU again.

Also, W@W might not be living longer.

I am sure there will be plenty of countries available to claim if you come back, Jared.

Why doesn't he just keep his nation and drop a few posts every now and then, then when the other RP ends, he can just start where he left off.

Two reasons. A.) He said he quit and I removed his claims from the claim list. B.) I have already started RPing the collapse of the Balkan Union and my reponse, located here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12535619#post12535619)

Yeah I saw that. I like the name of your operation.

Hey guys, unfortunately my internet connection has gone haywire again.... So I won't be able to come on untill the monopolistic Telecom decisdes to stop molesting me, or when my break is over (so I can log on on the uni comps). I'll be back later, but until then please try not to, say, invade me :D

BTW Dae, the Chinese claims are pretty baseless... Its the sort of thing that any nation would be able to cook up once they realised how much the islands are worth.

By contrast, Malaysia and Indonesia claimed it on the basis of continental shelf, in accordance with the Law of the Sea, as well as EEZ. As does the Vietnamese, and the basis of their historical claims stretches a lot further back than the French colonisation.

Then I'll have to do it the hard way.

If possible, I'd like to claim the following nations:

Romania
Bulgaria
Serbia
Montenegro
Croatia
Rpblka Srpska (part of Bosnia)
Slovenia
Albania
Macedonia
Greece

If Possible: Thracian Turkey (Istanbul part)

Hmm. Under review. For now I am considering your whole claim a combat zone not subject to be claimed.

Hmm. Under review. For now I am considering your whole claim a combat zone not subject to be claimed.

I figured that Anatolia and Bosnia + Herzegovina would be combat zones so they were omitted.

:P

I figured that Anatolia and Bosnia + Herzegovina would be combat zones so they were omitted.

:P

Bosnia & Herzegovina is the Federation of Bosnia and Rpblka Srpska, just so you know. Also since WP has rped that Romania is threatening to invade Moldavia, you could't claim that.

Hmm. Under review. For now I am considering your whole claim a combat zone not subject to be claimed.

Well, he used to own those territories. Its seems awkward to me to say that he can't even RP his own territories as a rebel group trying to restore power. As far as anyone is really concerned, no one owns any of it, and I'd like to see some RP action going into actually taking the territory. It's more interesting than playing chess with yourself.

Well, he used to own those territories. Its seems awkward to me to say that he can't even RP his own territories as a rebel group trying to restore power. As far as anyone is really concerned, no one owns any of it, and I'd like to see some RP action going into actually taking the territory. It's more interesting than playing chess with yourself.

This is true.

I've just started to add a new section, on Imperial Holidays. This is showing my utter boredom at the moment.

If Jared was going to RP I would let him take his claim, but he's not, he said so himself that he is too busy with World@War to RP on SYAE, he wants to claim them as a fall back option should W@W fail.

We need to get more people involved in this world. Who's still here?

I will RP as the Balkan Union still, WP. During the times of chaos, a revolution will occur. I'm sure it'll spice the RP up a tad.

Alright, since Granate and I have already started RPing your nation's collapse and we are kind of RPing the buildup towards war between Croatia, Serbia, Romania and myself will you agree to the following terms.

1.) Bosnia and Herzegovina is an independent nation with German and EEU peacekeepers, Serbia and Croatia are gearing towards war over control of Bosnia.

2.) You will continue to make claims that Moldova is a part of Romania and that the EEU should place said nation under Romanian control.

We need to get more people involved in this world. Who's still here?

I'm still here, but the Balkan thing basically got taken over-so I'm sitting pretty right now, developing weapons.

I'm here, just waiting for something to happen.

Sorry that I haven't been a part of this for some time...it's just that the only ongoing thread/conflict seems to be in the Balkan area, which I have no interest or any conflict with currently.

If I had a sizable military, I could start a war, but even that is not viable as a worthy option to further my RPed political/economic success. Or lack thereof.

Alright, since Granate and I have already started RPing your nation's collapse and we are kind of RPing the buildup towards war between Croatia, Serbia, Romania and myself will you agree to the following terms.

1.) Bosnia and Herzegovina is an independent nation with German and EEU peacekeepers, Serbia and Croatia are gearing towards war over control of Bosnia.

2.) You will continue to make claims that Moldova is a part of Romania and that the EEU should place said nation under Romanian control.

1: The Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina is an independent nation while Srpska is part of Croatia. The Balkan Union will claim the area, but not administer. Insurgencies throughout both sides of the border, perhaps start of another Yugoslav war. Or you can think of the FoBH as Kossovo. I'll draw up a map of the Balkan Union in a bit.

EDIT: http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6407/balkanmapwz9.png
Blue: Albania
Navy Blue/Purple: Bulgaria
Red: Croatia
Grey: Greece
Green: Moldavia
Black: Serbia

Light Red/Pink: Area claimed by Croatia
Light Black/Dark Grey: Area claimed by Serbia


2: "Romania" doesn't exist. The closest thing to Romanian independence is the state of Moldavia. Translyvania is part of Greater Serbia and Wallachia/Dobrogea is part of Greater Bulgaria as per the Constanta Accords' Partitioning of Romania in 1944.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Romania_counties.png <map

I will agree to having Moldavian seperatists go to war with Moldova if you'd like.

The following claim is approved:

Romania
Bulgaria
Serbia
Montenegro
Croatia
Slovenia
Albania
Macedonia
Greece

Rpblka Srpska shall remain claimed but not administrated by the Balkan Union.

The following claim is approved:

Romania
Bulgaria
Serbia
Montenegro
Croatia
Slovenia
Albania
Macedonia
Greece

Rpblka Srpska shall remain claimed but not administrated by the Balkan Union.

So:

I don't get Thrace and Bosnia remains claimed by me?

You get Turkey (it was supposed to be in the last post) and Bosnia remains independent, you can claim it if you like but that doesn't change the fact that it will be independent.

You get Turkey (it was supposed to be in the last post) and Bosnia remains independent, you can claim it if you like but that doesn't change the fact that it will be independent.

All I want is Balkan Turkey + the tip w/ Constantinople for Turkey, not the rest.

I will make something happen if need be...

All I want is Balkan Turkey + the tip w/ Constantinople for Turkey, not the rest.

Seems fair.

Where's our map person?

By the way, im still waiting for replies in Desert Wrath......

What'd I miss?

Seems fair.

Where's our map person?

I made the current one, if someone could get me a list of the current players still playing I would be happy to make another, although it won't be as good.

As far as I can tell the only members still here are Granate, Candistan, Jaredcohenia, Spizania, Ak-108's (the latter just barely), Daehanjeiguk and myself. That's only seven nations.

Amazonian Beasts is still here.

That was supposed to be on the list, thought I put it in right after your name. Anyways, I removed all the inactive nations from the claims list, correct Jared's to show that he does have Thracian Turkey, and am working on a new map now.

I beleive Futuris is still here as well.

Map = http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2496/syaemaplo0.png

So, anyone care to explain the situation in Bosnia?

Futuris and me are still here-just waiting for something exciting.

Wow...the map looks as if SYAE got totally invaded by a huge alien fleet, and we are the only survivors....speaking of which, if the "alien fleet" had modern technology (just a LOT of forces, as well as strategy, overwhelming in general, surprise) then having them controlling all the unclaimed lands could spark a potential interesting conflict....although, it's not likely that it'll pass, and we don't actually have a person to RP it (that won' be biased towards their own nation). Oh well.

I am making a modly decision right now.

We need more advertising.

The Common Wealth of Indastan


1. India
2.Nepal
3.Sri Lanka
4. Bangladesh
5.Burma
6.Bhitan

The Common Wealth of Indastan


1. India
2.Nepal
3.Sri Lanka
4. Bangladesh
5.Burma
6.Bhitan

Claim denied, India is already over a billion. Adding Bangledesh and all those other countries is over kill. Sorry if you got the wrong idea, SYAE is more realistic, and we will deny claims.

Alright, I have 2,000+ troops in Bosnia and (in a post later tonight) I will be flying in some heavy equipment, Granate has about 600 troops plus equipment in Bosnia. Here's what I was going to do: Croatia and Serbia, unexpectedly, don't attack my nation, which was supposed to be a basis for war between the EEU and those nations to secure a "lasting peace" in the area. I was also, at one point or another, going to engineer a incident between Romania and my nation which would cause war to break out giving my nation the justification we need to "gobble up" some Romanian territory.

Alright, I have 2,000+ troops in Bosnia and (in a post later tonight) I will be flying in some heavy equipment, Granate has about 600 troops plus equipment in Bosnia. Here's what I was going to do: Croatia and Serbia, unexpectedly, don't attack my nation, which was supposed to be a basis for war between the EEU and those nations to secure a "lasting peace" in the area. I was also, at one point or another, going to engineer a incident between Romania and my nation which would cause war to break out giving my nation the justification we need to "gobble up" some Romanian territory.

I've also contacted the Bosnian Government with offers of Equipment and Training.

sorry for double post

Ok then how about Spain and France?

Ok then how about Spain and France?

And your nation's name in SYAE will be?

Ok then how about Spain and France?

I'll let WP handle this one.

United Marxika

United Marxika
and sorry but would it be ok if i also grab Portugal

United Marxika
and sorry but would it be ok if i also grab Portugal

Original claim was already made, so I doubt it will be added.

Original claim was already made, so I doubt it will be added.

I don't see why not....but whatever.

I'm surprised Marx that you didn't take America at first opportunity. We've had two nations so far try for it and be kicked due to inactivity. You've been pretty active in ESS, and you're about to suffer the full force of an unstoppable invasion.

Of course, you should probably just stick with Spain, France (and possibly Portugal) now that you've kind of claimed them. Portugal is up to WP/Granate tough.

Original claim was already made, so I doubt it will be added.

ok....don't see how that really matters seeing as i did do it within a few min. but w/e. Sorry for the countless double posts my edit butten just produces another post

I don't see why not....but whatever.

I'm surprised Marx that you didn't take America at first opportunity. We've had two nations so far try for it and be kicked due to inactivity. You've been pretty active in ESS, and you're about to suffer the full force of an unstoppable invasion.

Of course, you should probably just stick with Spain, France (and possibly Portugal) now that you've kind of claimed them. Portugal is up to WP/Granate tough.

IDK i just thought it would be fun to RP europe that and the western himi-sphere is empty and i want to be in the center of conflict...as you can see in ESS im always in the middle of it all

Alright, I'm usually a stickler for the rules (when I'm in charge anyways) but since we need new members and I'm in a... charitable mood, I will give you Portugal.

Alright, I have 2,000+ troops in Bosnia and (in a post later tonight) I will be flying in some heavy equipment, Granate has about 600 troops plus equipment in Bosnia. Here's what I was going to do: Croatia and Serbia, unexpectedly, don't attack my nation, which was supposed to be a basis for war between the EEU and those nations to secure a "lasting peace" in the area. I was also, at one point or another, going to engineer a incident between Romania and my nation which would cause war to break out giving my nation the justification we need to "gobble up" some Romanian territory.

My nation will cry "At one point, we found the Eastern Europeans allies in proclaiming the Ludwik Doctrine against aggressors in Eastern Europe. Clearly, these men can not be trusted."

And also, there was no Bosnian government before it apparently broke off from the Balkan Union. It existed as a part of Croatia.

Bosnia will be demanded back, most likely refused. Military access will be denied, the Dardanelles shut off, and try to ally ourselves with like Daehan or something.

Jared, you're going to have to RP some sort of collapse and subsequent rebuilding of the Balkan Union, you quit, we moved on and now you are back, you can't claim that we took Bosnia from you, as far as this RP is concerned your nation ceased to exist for a period of time and Granate and I, engineering some sort of RP to keep SYAE limping along, RPed that Serbia and Croatia were on the verge of war over control of Bosnia and Romania is making baseless but no less real demands to have the nation of Moldova made into Romanian territory.

And when I say RP I just mean a couple paragraphs saying what happened, not a protracted, multi-post affair.

Alright, I'm usually a stickler for the rules (when I'm in charge anyways) but since we need new members and I'm in a... charitable mood, I will give you Portugal.

Thank you WP!:p

I noticed that their are alot of factbooks but not alot of nations/alot of blank area on the map...Whats up?

A lot of people joined, wrote a factbook, and then went inactive.

Jared, you're going to have to RP some sort of collapse and subsequent rebuilding of the Balkan Union, you quit, we moved on and now you are back, you can't claim that we took Bosnia from you, as far as this RP is concerned your nation ceased to exist for a period of time and Granate and I, engineering some sort of RP to keep SYAE limping along, RPed that Serbia and Croatia were on the verge of war over control of Bosnia and Romania is making baseless but no less real demands to have the nation of Moldova made into Romanian territory.

And when I say RP I just mean a couple paragraphs saying what happened, not a protracted, multi-post affair.

I'll figure something out.

A lot of people signed, waited, and then signed up elsewhere, either completely forgetting about us or not interested and unwilling to tell us otherwise.

In any case, I'm glad that we've got people back here.

I have some Arabs to kill, where is he anyway? and what about that Soviet commander i threatened?

Just a quick question-
How will you guys reach Bosnia if I impose a military access block?

Just a quick question-
How will you guys reach Bosnia if I impose a military access block?

Air. And if you did shoot us down, we would probably declare war, thus adding to your problems.

Air. And if you did shoot us down, we would probably declare war, thus adding to your problems.

So you'd disregard a nation's wished and warnings and declare war as you ignored their statement?

I still am unsure as to why Bosnia left the Balkan Union, and in SYAE the Bosnian War never occured. The only Yugoslav war that happened was the Slovenian Uprising, but it was crushed.

And if anything, if you flew planes over my nation after I said not to it would be grounds for me to declare war.

Bosnia could want to leave for numerous reasons. Like not being as well recognized as the Croats or the Serbs. Hell they don't even have their own state, as you said Bosnia is apart of Croatia.

Ethnic troubles could also be a factor, because even though you say there is no ethnic trouble in your nation, it doesn't mean that there isn't any tension. And this tension could boil over at anytime. Croats don't like Bosniaks, Bosniaks don't like Serbs.

It's all racial. Now if you're going to say something about the EEU, you must know that racial tensions between all those nations has been reletively good. Compare that to the Balkans were ethnic tensions have been going for a long time.

Bosnia could want to leave for numerous reasons. Like not being as well recognized as the Croats or the Serbs. Hell they don't even have their own state, as you said Bosnia is apart of Croatia.

Ethnic troubles could also be a factor, because even though you say there is no ethnic trouble in your nation, it doesn't mean that there isn't any tension. And this tension could boil over at anytime. Croats don't like Bosniaks, Bosniaks don't like Serbs.

It's all racial. Now if you're going to say something about the EEU, you must know that racial tensions between all those nations has been reletively good. Compare that to the Balkans were ethnic tensions have been going for a long time.

Macedonia, Romania, and Slovenia do not have their own states either. Does that mean they all want to secede as well?

Just because Bosniaks don't get along historically with Croats or Serbs doesn't mean they can't live with each other. One of my best friends is a German who had Nazi relatives, and I'm a Polish Jew. Does that mean I shouldn't be friends with him and should hate him? No. Have I ever gotten into a fist fight with him? No.

In a related note, Serbs hate Albanians IRL. In SYAE, Kossovo exists as part of the Albanian state. Serbs would refuse to ever recognize Kossovo as an independent state, let alone give it to Albanians. And both Turkey and southern Macedonia are parts of Greece, would that happen in real life? No.

Still, there is no way to get into Bosnia without violating my air space or violating my waters. Both IIRC are grounds to either sink ships or shoot planes.

I was briefly active in this world, had a African conflict which died due to international pressure against me, but if this is becoming more active (the reason I did not really do much previously was because there was little going on) - I'd happily take the United States. Obviously to have a country this large I'd have to be reasonable active - and in the other earth I'm involved in (ESS) I have been so far. This is a large claim but there are larger, and it's better filled than empty.

I keep logging on as that nation...anyway, that was me ^

Macedonia, Romania, and Slovenia do not have their own states either. Does that mean they all want to secede as well?

Just because Bosniaks don't get along historically with Croats or Serbs doesn't mean they can't live with each other. One of my best friends is a German who had Nazi relatives, and I'm a Polish Jew. Does that mean I shouldn't be friends with him and should hate him? No. Have I ever gotten into a fist fight with him? No.

In a related note, Serbs hate Albanians IRL. In SYAE, Kossovo exists as part of the Albanian state. Serbs would refuse to ever recognize Kossovo as an independent state, let alone give it to Albanians. And both Turkey and southern Macedonia are parts of Greece, would that happen in real life? No.

Still, there is no way to get into Bosnia without violating my air space or violating my waters. Both IIRC are grounds to either sink ships or shoot planes.

Well, the Bosniaks have their own state right now. It's probably because of the Balkan Union's apparent fall. There was a time of anarchy, not a long one, but things changed. You don't have control of Anatolia anymore, that secceeded from you apparently. Now you have control of Greece, which you didn't earlier. Perhaps the Bosnians don't like how the new Balkan is running things. There are multiple things.

Then sink them. It's not like we aren't prepared for this. You declare war on us, we invade you to protect the sovereignity of a new state. It becomes big who do I want to support sort of thing. Although there will be those who think that you have the right to stop anyone entering Bosnia, others will agree with us in that we have a right to be able to assist any nation asking for help.

Jared, as far as SYAE is concerned the Balkan Union ceased to exist for a time, that is the basis by which Granate and I made up an reason to send troops into Bosnia to add some activity to SYAE. Since I haven't seen any sort of post on your part stating that the Balkan Union has re-united.

Then sink them. It's not like we aren't prepared for this. You declare war on us, we invade you to protect the sovereignity of a new state. It becomes big who do I want to support sort of thing. Although there will be those who think that you have the right to stop anyone entering Bosnia, others will agree with us in that we have a right to be able to assist any nation asking for help.

Uh, so you are saying that the Sovereignty of certain nations is intrisically more valid than that of others?
Thats equivalent to forcing your way through Italian airspace to land troops in San Marino, you cant complain if Italy shoots down military aircraft that are violating its airspace......

btw i announced in the IC fourm i am holding a communist/socialist convention in Paris, all communist/socialist states and partys are welcome

btw i announced in the IC fourm i am holding a communist/socialist convention in Paris, all communist/socialist states and partys are welcome

Thats one nation and he doesn't post. So you're out of luck.

Hello! comrades.

hey man you want to claim your nations do so, will be good to get another commy in the world.On the first page of this thread you can see the nations avalible when you clicky on the map. Pick wich ones you want(make sure its realistic) and have a party

i'm waiting for a stable foundation in SYAE politics, before I start accepting new diplomatic relations with any new players.

The Fusion Project is also underway, for those who have expressed interest and want to get to developing fusion as an energy resource:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522860


edit - also! I've decided to secure an IC source of my oil resources. And I'm looking for prospective sellers. My traditional source has been the UASR, but we never concretely set any quotas, and I think it's fairer if I have a set concrete post that declares my energy requirements. Sufficed to say, I do still use a lot of coal for my energy needs. Also, if anyone is looking for information on the new oil reservoirs that I've been talking about, I'll get posts confirming the suspicion of such reservoirs and current actions being taken to exploit those potential reservoirs.

we need to jump-start this ordeal... or else let finals overwhelm the world...

Where is H-town Tejas....... the war RP is frozen at about three hours into the invasion until he gets back......

And no one responded to my accusations of Bosnian terrorism...

Hey, I know I was a member here before and I sort of disappeared...got frustrated and my life was getting a bit hectic then...but I was wondering if I could re-join as the following -

United Kingdom [Including the Channel Islands; England; Wales; Scotland; Northern Ireland; Shetland]
Ireland
The Netherlands
Belgium
Luxembourg
Newfoundland [And the Island underneath it]
And a bit of India, which I can make the map of which bit. [Including Lakshadweep Islands, a part of India irl]

The name would be "The British Empire".

I checked the Claims list and it seems no one has claimed what I have claimed, so it'd be awesome if I could have this.

Thanks, and my apologies for my past venture here.

EDIT:

Here is a map, just cut outs of Wiki's map with things colored in - http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9876/britannicempirexq3ev8.png

If you need a mapper, I can be the Mapper..again..lol.

i'm waiting for a stable foundation in SYAE politics, before I start accepting new diplomatic relations with any new players.

The Fusion Project is also underway, for those who have expressed interest and want to get to developing fusion as an energy resource:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522860


edit - also! I've decided to secure an IC source of my oil resources. And I'm looking for prospective sellers. My traditional source has been the UASR, but we never concretely set any quotas, and I think it's fairer if I have a set concrete post that declares my energy requirements. Sufficed to say, I do still use a lot of coal for my energy needs. Also, if anyone is looking for information on the new oil reservoirs that I've been talking about, I'll get posts confirming the suspicion of such reservoirs and current actions being taken to exploit those potential reservoirs.

I'm a prospective Seller. The SCE doesn't consume anywhere near close to half of what we produce.

I'm a prospective Seller. The SCE doesn't consume anywhere near close to half of what we produce.

Start up diplomatic channels; we'll talk about it ^_^

This RP is now on sleep mode...