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WP won't let us change the fate of one fighter jet; you really think he's going to allow japan to have its own supercarrier when it dosn't have one in RL?

I'm not saying its not justifed or reasonable I'm just saying he probably won't allow it

Oh, I think the issue is whether I should get to use Russian equipments; I want to use the Kerml class carriers, not pulling one of thin air :p . I feel I'm entitled to do so since by most counts Siberia's part of Russia, and because I believe it is logical for Japan, historically a major user of carriers, to maintain a fleet of carriers.

Oh, I think the issue is whether I should get to use Russian equipments; I want to use the Kerml class carriers, not pulling one of thin air :p . I feel I'm entitled to do so since by most counts Siberia's part of Russia, and because I believe it is logical for Japan, historically a major user of carriers, to maintain a fleet of carriers.

I agree with you personally; but if he lets you have your carrier he should let us have our F-23's. so we'll see.

Two nice detailed replies now that Jolt decided not to post. Let's try something short and sweet.

Animarnia, your bitching is not needed here.

Kiwiland, as I said in the SYAE thread, if your claimed nations have a carrier in RL then I will give you the carrier in SYAE, but since neither Russia or Japan have any carriers in service you will have to start from scratch for a carrier. Shop around, talk to Carloginia, he might be willing to sell some old US carriers to you. Also, could you clarify something for me? I thought I read somewhere that for your SYAE nation's history, Siberia has been a part of your empire since 1905, is this correct?

Two nice detailed replies now that Jolt decided not to post. Let's try something short and sweet.

Animarnia, your bitching is not needed here.

Kiwiland, as I said in the SYAE thread, if your claimed nations have a carrier in RL then I will give you the carrier in SYAE, but since neither Russia or Japan have any carriers in service you will have to start from scratch for a carrier. Shop around, talk to Carloginia, he might be willing to sell some old US carriers to you. Also, could you clarify something for me? I thought I read somewhere that for your SYAE nation's history, Siberia has been a part of your empire since 1905, is this correct?

No Bitching; merely pointing out his chances and a fact. to my knowledge Japan has no carriers (since they can be used for offensive combat thus the JMDF can't have any) and Russia hasn't really had a carrier in service for a long long time and they were about the size and capacity of the british Invincible Class. Carrying around 20 Odd Sukoi's and 10 Coptors but since Cad has already said he won't let him use Russian gear that rules out using those

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hmmm, I may be adding another tank to my lot of tanks :D

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/South_Korea_Unveils_Underwater_Tank_999.html

the news is over a week old, but I think that I'll get on to adding its specs to whatever this year is and progressively add its production for use. Following the designations of past MBT tanks, the XK2 will become my new JJC-07.

Hmmm, I see alot of people are beginning research projects to improve their military. Luckily for me, Germany's Armed Forces are among the most technologically advanced so I'm good for some years. Expect most of the Research from me to come in the form of Air-craft and Armor, with a possible Wheeled Vehicle like the Stryker of the USA.

For the following Lesser Antillean islands, are overseas dependencies, commonwealths, and départements considered distinct from their respective possessors?

Leeward Islands:

* U.S. Virgin Islands: St. Thomas, St. John, St. Croix
* British Virgin Islands: Tortola, Virgin Gorda, Anegada, Jost Van Dyke
* Anguilla (United Kingdom)
* Saint Martin/Sint Maarten (France/Neth. Antilles)
* Saint-Barthélemy (Fr.)
* Saba (Neth.)
* Sint Eustatius (Neth.)
* Saint Kitts
* Nevis
* Barbuda
* Antigua
* Redonda
* Montserrat (UK)
* Guadeloupe (Fr.)
* La Désirade (Fr.)
* Les Saintes (Fr.)
* Marie-Galante (Fr.)
* Dominica

Windward Islands:

* Martinique (Fr.)
* Saint Lucia
* Barbados
* Saint Vincent
* Grenadines
* Grenada
* Trinidad and Tobago

Leeward Antilles – islands north of the Venezuelan coast (from west to east):

* Aruba (Neth.)
* Curaçao (Neth.)
* Bonaire (Neth.)

If anyone needs AK-47, let it be known that IRL Romania is one of the largest produces of illegal ones ;D

:cool: thanks. BTW, are we continuing our alliance talks somwhere else?

Uh yeah....I've been a little lazy, I'll start the new thread now, sorry.

@ WP and Jac: I thought we were going to have talks about adding the German Confederation to your alliance? Well, am I going to have to talk other people... like say the Scandinavians or Chinese?

@ WP and Jac: I thought we were going to have talks about adding the German Confederation to your alliance? Well, am I going to have to talk other people... like say the Scandinavians or Chinese?

When you say "Scandinavians", are you referring to me (Futuris) or the person that has India? Anyway, I'm going to post a letter on the IC Thread on starting a European alliance of democracies. Like we wanted to earlier, only it never really caught on and/or I was lazy.

Kiwiland: Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520535)

When you say "Scandinavians", are you referring to me (Futuris) or the person that has India? Anyway, I'm going to post a letter on the IC Thread on starting a European alliance of democracies. Like we wanted to earlier, only it never really caught on and/or I was lazy.

Kiwiland: Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520535)

If I met the guy in India I would of said Indians. If I refer to nationality while I am here, most likey its about a country or region, not a NS Player.

If I met the guy in India I would of said Indians. If I refer to nationality while I am here, most likey its about a country or region, not a NS Player.

Just making sure :)

Meh, I was bored so I wrote this up. It's pretty much some basic info on the Leopard 3 tank. Expect it to be renovated heavily in the coming weeks. Since it's had 1 year of Developement and I expect there to be at least 4 to 6 more years and then 3 years of Tweaking before it goes into Full Production.

So, without Further ado. Here's the stats for the Leopard 3 as of now.

Length: 8 m
Width: 3.7 m
Height: 3 m
Weight: 67 to 72 tonnes
Crew: 3 (Commander, Gunner, and Driver)
Main Armament: 1 x Coaxial 130 mm to 140 mm Rheinmetall Cannon
Secondary Armament: 2 x 7.62 mm MG3s. 2 5 Barrelled Grenade Launchers.
Ammo Capicity: 45 Cannon Rounds. (25 APFSDS-T, 15 HEAT-FS, 5 HE-FRAG-FS), 2,500 7.62 Rounds, Numerous Variations of Grenades added before combat.
Engine:12 Cylinder Diesel Engine. 1,800 to 2,000 HP
Fuel Capicity: 1900 Litres
Fuel Consumption (Road): .25 km per Litre
Fuel Consumption (Cross-Country): .105 km per Litre
Range (Road): 475 km
Range (Cross Country): 200 km


Just a few notes. The Engines km per Litre are pretty much the same, but it's really a question of weight and speed. I still haven't even gotten to the Electronics and other such things.

@ WP and Jac: I thought we were going to have talks about adding the German Confederation to your alliance? Well, am I going to have to talk other people... like say the Scandinavians or Chinese?

Start the thread :P

And if we add the Han to our alliance = pwn for us

No one comments on the Tank, sigh? I could really use the critcism.

I posted a proposal for a European Democratic Alliance in the IC Thread.

No one comments on the Tank, sigh? I could really use the critcism.

Well......your post reminds me that I should start research and production of all my secret submarines and aircraft on Svalbard....

Meh, I was bored so I wrote this up. It's pretty much some basic info on the Leopard 3 tank. Expect it to be renovated heavily in the coming weeks. Since it's had 1 year of Developement and I expect there to be at least 4 to 6 more years and then 3 years of Tweaking before it goes into Full Production.

So, without Further ado. Here's the stats for the Leopard 3 as of now.

Length: 8 m
Width: 3.7 m
Height: 3 m
Weight: 67 to 72 tonnes
Crew: 3 (Commander, Gunner, and Driver)
Main Armament: 1 x Coaxial 130 mm to 140 mm Rheinmetall Cannon
Secondary Armament: 2 x 7.62 mm MG3s. 2 5 Barrelled Grenade Launchers.
Ammo Capicity: 45 Cannon Rounds. (25 APFSDS-T, 15 HEAT-FS, 5 HE-FRAG-FS), 2,500 7.62 Rounds, Numerous Variations of Grenades added before combat.
Engine:12 Cylinder Diesel Engine. 1,800 to 2,000 HP
Fuel Capicity: 1900 Litres
Fuel Consumption (Road): .25 km per Litre
Fuel Consumption (Cross-Country): .105 km per Litre
Range (Road): 475 km
Range (Cross Country): 200 km


Just a few notes. The Engines km per Litre are pretty much the same, but it's really a question of weight and speed. I still haven't even gotten to the Electronics and other such things.

Looks fairly decent; nothing ground breaking but decent *nods* what kind of armour you gonna stick on it?

Looks fairly decent; nothing ground breaking but decent *nods* what kind of armour you gonna stick on it?

If I had a choice of anything most likely 3rd Generation Chrobham. But since it's only used by The UK and America under UK License, I can't. It will most likely be 4th Generation Composite Armor, massive update of the Leopard 2's, with Explosive Reactive Armor used in places.

If I had a choice of anything most likely 3rd Generation Chrobham. But since it's only used by The UK and America under UK License, I can't. It will most likely be 4th Generation Composite Armor, massive update of the Leopard 2's, with Explosive Reactive Armor used in places.

Well you could spend time and money to develop something very much like Chrobham in anything but name?

Well you could spend time and money to develop something very much like Chrobham in anything but name?

I could, but that would increase the Development time which is already a decade long. I want/need this tank as soon as possible. Also, to help increase production on Leopard 3, all Leopard 1's not Sold will be scrapped to be used as parts for the Leopard 3. Most likely I will need more factories, so those of you looking for Foreign Investment be on the watch in the next 8 or 10 years.

I could, but that would increase the Development time which is already a decade long. I want/need this tank as soon as possible. Also, to help increase production on Leopard 3, all Leopard 1's not Sold will be scrapped to be used as parts for the Leopard 3. Most likely I will need more factories, so those of you looking for Foreign Investment be on the watch in the next 8 or 10 years.

maybe you could split the costs of development with someone you trust...

maybe you could split the costs of development with someone you trust...

Or get someone to NPC the UK for you so you can licence the armour from them...

And if we add the Han to our alliance = pwn for us

What about me? *stifles sob*

Or get someone to NPC the UK for you so you can licence the armour from them...

or get someone to RP as the UK and have no need for the license or the NPC... maybe not the license part, but definitely the NPC...

What about me? *stifles sob*

did they call ME a PAWN in that quote?

anyways, I've realized that I didn't properly title my Director of the Board of Directors for the Agency of Imperial Contracts... so for now on, he really will be a Count.

or get someone to RP as the UK and have no need for the license or the NPC... maybe not the license part, but definitely the NPC...

Daehanjeiguk, do you have a link somewhere from your factbook to your AIC? I was just thinking about putting everyone's factbooks into my favorites for easy reference (yes, i know i'm obsessed) and a link to all your different threads would be cool. Of course, I've probably missed it in all that information......

OOC: Well, the standing army is for protection and military aid. Plus, I'm mainly considering this for the democratic states that are actually in Earth SYAE in Europe. All of them have standing armies. If someone joins SYAE in Europe and does not have a standing army, the 'Council' can vote to change that requirement. I'm afraid, that some countries are going to be like "Well, I don't have a 'standing army' so I don't need to help any members of the alliance!" since that would take money and effort to give military aid to others. Refusal to do so in turn increases hostilities in the alliance, and a general degradation of diplomatic relations in Europe.

On another note, I don't exactly see how standing armies threaten democracies....or how banks threateten democracies either.

I'm a big fan of taking ooc comments out of IC threads, so I hope that you don't mind this.

First of all, a democracy is in theory able to decide its own foreign policies and domestic policies. By forcing constraints (requiring them to have a standing army) in such agreements, you are establishing a non-domestic regulation of domestic policies in states that party to this alliance; even if the states by consent of their people decide to have a standing army, the fact that you have this regulation hanging over it all kind of dispels the idea and begs the question of why they have a standing army.

Second of all, the "often said" is an often attributed quote to one of the founding fathers of the USA - and unless you think that the establishment of armies are among the more democratic institutions in the world, the fact that a democratic society will willingly indulge and sustain such a spartan society (no puns intended but inevitably done) strikes me as ironic.

Above all, I'm not challenging your concepts - I'm just inquisitively questioning curious things. I think you will find out how much I can bounce off walls and leave people standing eyes wide and wondering about things, but it's not my intention to say that you're wrong or anything (as is sometimes erroneously assumed in my previous experiences).

And my last comment, the most critical of all:

Something with a lot of rules is destined to break.

Daehanjeiguk, do you have a link somewhere from your factbook to your AIC? I was just thinking about putting everyone's factbooks into my favorites for easy reference (yes, i know i'm obsessed) and a link to all your different threads would be cool. Of course, I've probably missed it in all that information......

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519727

AICC thread link; I've also checked the IC thread, it's there too if you misplace this one {Agency for Imperial Contracts Consortium}

Two nice detailed replies now that Jolt decided not to post. Let's try something short and sweet.

Animarnia, your bitching is not needed here.

Kiwiland, as I said in the SYAE thread, if your claimed nations have a carrier in RL then I will give you the carrier in SYAE, but since neither Russia or Japan have any carriers in service you will have to start from scratch for a carrier. Shop around, talk to Carloginia, he might be willing to sell some old US carriers to you. Also, could you clarify something for me? I thought I read somewhere that for your SYAE nation's history, Siberia has been a part of your empire since 1905, is this correct?

Yeah lol jolt is evil ;)

Well, when I said carrier, I actually meant, for Japan, the 13,500 tonnes elicopter destroyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13500t_class_DDH) which is due to launch this year. Or I could go back to use its predecessor, the Shirane class DDH. For Russia its the Project 1143.5 Kreml/Admiral Kuznetsov class heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, which has one ship comissioned and serving as the flagship of the Russian Navy. And interestingly, there's another in Chinese hands....

As for my history, Japan won territory in Siberia after the 1905 war (as opposed to Korea in RL) and thereafter directed her imperialistic impulses against Russia. After the dynastic union of Japan and Russia's thrones in 1929, Kiwiland laid claim to all of Russia, and took advantage of any opportunity to purse that claim. After Germany invaded, Japan renounced her claims to the European parts of Russia in exchange for peace, but continued to claim sovereignty over the rest of Siberia.

Hmm... A brief period of territorial expansion was supposed to happen during the Soviet Union's disintegration, but I think I forgot to write that bit in.

One disadvantage in the Typhoon's $58 million price. It is more expensive than the $30 million F-16, while the F-35 is expected to cost on average about $50 million when it comes into production.

Ah-ha! found a source for the bugger. anyway...Germany operates the Tiger dosn't it?

Yeah lol jolt is evil ;)

Well, when I said carrier, I actually meant, for Japan, the 13,500 tonnes elicopter destroyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13500t_class_DDH) which is due to launch this year. Or I could go back to use its predecessor, the Shirane class DDH. For Russia its the Project 1143.5 Kreml/Admiral Kuznetsov class heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, which has one ship comissioned and serving as the flagship of the Russian Navy. And interestingly, there's another in Chinese hands....

As for my history, Japan won territory in Siberia after the 1905 war (as opposed to Korea in RL) and thereafter directed her imperialistic impulses against Russia. After the dynastic union of Japan and Russia's thrones in 1929, Kiwiland laid claim to all of Russia, and took advantage of any opportunity to purse that claim. After Germany invaded, Japan renounced her claims to the European parts of Russia in exchange for peace, but continued to claim sovereignty over the rest of Siberia.

Hmm... A brief period of territorial expansion was supposed to happen during the Soviet Union's disintegration, but I think I forgot to write that bit in.

You can have the helicopter carrier, but not the aircraft carrier. Since the latter is Russian it would be a part of the Russian Navy and since Candistan is quite clearly RPing as Russia and you are centered on Japan he should get the carrier. Since the Sukhoi factories were in your controlled parts of Russia you and Candistan will both have ownership rights to them.

Ah-ha! found a source for the bugger. anyway...Germany operates the Tiger dosn't it?

The Eurocopter Tiger? No I don't. I don't operate very many Helicopters, but I expect to update that soon.

Is it possible for me to claim *Great Britain plus Ireland? If it's too big, can I claim Ireland and Northern Ireland?

I have RPing experience with my older nation, which was deleted...

I'm also active in Earth V, FYI.

*Thus this include the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man?

Is it possible for me to claim *Great Britain plus Ireland? If it's too big, can I claim Ireland and Northern Ireland?

I have RPing experience with my older nation, which was deleted...

I'm also active in Earth V, FYI.

*Thus this include the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man?
I've seen Maryan's RP in Earth-V and it's very promising. I think we should allow him/her to claim GB + Ireland.

Great to see new players here in SYAE, we need it!

Welcome Maryan!

I've seen Maryan's RP in Earth-V and it's very promising. I think we should allow him/her to claim GB + Ireland.

Great to see new players here in SYAE, we need it!

Welcome Maryan!

Thanks! :)

I shall patiently wait for confirmation by West Pacific (if it's necessary of course)

Is it possible for me to claim *Great Britain plus Ireland? If it's too big, can I claim Ireland and Northern Ireland?

I have RPing experience with my older nation, which was deleted...

I'm also active in Earth V, FYI.

*Thus this include the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man?

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I assume by Great Britain you mean all of the United Kingdom.

The Guy who is playing France hasn't done something in the past week or so. Cripteria, the UASR Guy, and Aiutar haven't done much if anything.

The Guy who is playing France hasn't done something in the past week or so. Cripteria, the UASR Guy, and Aiutar haven't done much if anything.
True. I think the guy with France still has to post his first IC-post in this earth.

True. I think the guy with France still has to post his first IC-post in this earth.

You would be correct.

I'm going along kinda slowly, but I really haven't found much to get excited about yet. One of these days I'll get majorly involved.

I think it's high time we cut some of the slackers. Not all, just some.

The Guy who is playing France hasn't done something in the past week or so. Cripteria, the UASR Guy, and Aiutar haven't done much if anything.

Oh good, somebody else noticed, I didn't want to say anything for fear I would be seen as forcing people out of the RP as if I were some sort of admin when really I have no ability to enforce my decisions.


I'll look through the member's list and do some searches on Jolt for other members that are quite inactive.

Oh good, somebody else noticed, I didn't want to say anything for fear I would be seen as forcing people out of the RP as if I were some sort of admin when really I have no ability to enforce my decisions.


I'll look through the member's list and do some searches on Jolt for other members that are quite inactive.

I'm not called a Prophet by my friends for nothing. Actually they call me that mostly because I rarely miss something and I pratically know everything.

OOC: Okay......that was pointless? If you could quote me every calling you "un-democratic" or calling communism an "anti-democracy" maybe we'd get somewhere, but otherwise....

Also, I said that it's debatable, so if you think that you should get a chance to get into it, we can debate on it and decide with everyone else what's right.....
OOC: I moved this to the OOC-thread.
Nah... It's not pointless, it's the IC-reaction of CCPS realizing that a military alliance is being formed in Europe, which likely will be a counterpart to CCPS/RSFSR. And OOC I don't want to be a member in the new alliance. If we're all members, whom shall we fight then?
And besides, I'm seeing this as a possibility for a "cold war"-style RP maybe? That would be a lot of fun!

Thanks! :)

I shall patiently wait for confirmation by West Pacific (if it's necessary of course)

Good luck in SYAE, it's good to have new players sign up, especially in Europe.

@Kopparbergs: Since this is more of a total ooc topic than an IC one.....although communism is technically a form of economic government, in RL, communism is an excuse for a dictatorship, as is very strong socialism. Sort of. If you could offer me a more detailed description of your government, then it would be much different.

OOC: I moved this to the OOC-thread.
Nah... It's not pointless, it's the IC-reaction of CCPS realizing that a military alliance is being formed in Europe, which likely will be a counterpart to CCPS/RSFSR. And OOC I don't want to be a member in the new alliance. If we're all members, whom shall we fight then?
And besides, I'm seeing this as a possibility for a "cold war"-style RP maybe? That would be a lot of fun!

Okay. That's fine. I hope that Granate, Jaredcohenia, Psychotika (unlikely) will join in, and West Pacific has already displayed interest in it, so it's cool. I'm fine with the Cold-War thing going on in Europe and all, but I don't want to immediately fight a war with anybody.....

@Kopparbergs: Since this is more of a total ooc topic than an IC one.....although communism is technically a form of economic government, in RL, communism is an excuse for a dictatorship, as is very strong socialism. Sort of. If you could offer me a more detailed description of your government, then it would be much different.
The thing is... CCPS is kind of a dictatorship, but not ruled by one dictator. Elections are hold every third year, but all other parties, except the communism party, are banned hence they win every election and continue to rule as the government elected by the people.
The IC-reaction was made just because the president and the vice president know that it's not a democratic country, but "officially" it is (otherwise they could just skip the elections).
I haven't really thought of a background story for the government of CCPS, but I imagine that it's ruled someway like Soviet before Glasnost.

The thing is... CCPS is kind of a dictatorship, but not ruled by one dictator. Elections are hold every third year, but all other parties, except the communism party, are banned hence they win every election and continue to rule as the government elected by the people.
The IC-reaction was made just because the president and the vice president know that it's not a democratic country, but "officially" it is (otherwise they could just skip the elections).
I haven't really thought of a background story for the government of CCPS, but I imagine that it's ruled someway like Soviet before Glasnost.

Well, "officially" you are the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain. But that's okay, I just couldn't tell at first if you were actually doing that because you wanted to get in, or you were being a pain in the ass by promoting communist policies :rolleyes:

Also, this means that I'm not delivering the subs and corvettes that I was building (remember, I only delivered a few, since I don't just want to give up my whole navy to you). It's still fair though, since I believe that payment would occur at delivery, so we're all good. It's just that I now have several more subs and corvettes at my command, and you have less than ten of each as you originally wanted. Just a reminder ;)

The Guy who is playing France hasn't done something in the past week or so. Cripteria, the UASR Guy, and Aiutar haven't done much if anything.

I go to school with Aiutar, he's been busy lately.

Yeah lol jolt is evil ;)

Well, when I said carrier, I actually meant, for Japan, the 13,500 tonnes elicopter destroyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13500t_class_DDH) which is due to launch this year. Or I could go back to use its predecessor, the Shirane class DDH. For Russia its the Project 1143.5 Kreml/Admiral Kuznetsov class heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, which has one ship comissioned and serving as the flagship of the Russian Navy. And interestingly, there's another in Chinese hands....

As for my history, Japan won territory in Siberia after the 1905 war (as opposed to Korea in RL) and thereafter directed her imperialistic impulses against Russia. After the dynastic union of Japan and Russia's thrones in 1929, Kiwiland laid claim to all of Russia, and took advantage of any opportunity to purse that claim. After Germany invaded, Japan renounced her claims to the European parts of Russia in exchange for peace, but continued to claim sovereignty over the rest of Siberia.

Hmm... A brief period of territorial expansion was supposed to happen during the Soviet Union's disintegration, but I think I forgot to write that bit in.

hmm, that brings up a very good question...

did you guys even resolve on what was going to be partitioned? Because there are probably three different maps about who owns what in Siberia (I've only seen two).

WP

You posted this in my factbook thread and have not yet replied to my reply - is this still on the table or has it been scrapped at the moment?

東歐聯合 {동구련합}

His Imperial Majesty has received indication that your government's official wishes to confer with him. Despite his busy schedule, His Imperial Majesty has decided to grant audience to His Imperial Majesty's Emissary from the East European Union. We eagerly await his arrival.

GREAT HAN EMPIRE

http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif

Right, sorry, forgot about that with it being Spring Break and all last week.

You can have the helicopter carrier, but not the aircraft carrier. Since the latter is Russian it would be a part of the Russian Navy and since Candistan is quite clearly RPing as Russia and you are centered on Japan he should get the carrier. Since the Sukhoi factories were in your controlled parts of Russia you and Candistan will both have ownership rights to them.

Okay that sounds fair. I'll find replacements for the Russian missiles and transports later.

On a related note, I'm planning on building upgraded versions of WWII-era ships (The Yamato, but now that I'm lacking a carrier, probably the Shinano too). Is there any problem with that?

hmm, that brings up a very good question...

did you guys even resolve on what was going to be partitioned? Because there are probably three different maps about who owns what in Siberia (I've only seen two).

I think its the map in my factbook?

Also, this means that I'm not delivering the subs and corvettes that I was building (remember, I only delivered a few, since I don't just want to give up my whole navy to you). It's still fair though, since I believe that payment would occur at delivery, so we're all good. It's just that I now have several more subs and corvettes at my command, and you have less than ten of each as you originally wanted. Just a reminder ;)
Okay, that sounds reasonable.
How many Visby class and Gotland class are delivered? This is what we decided Feb 27:

Oskar Svensson, Minister of Defense

To the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain,

We are happy to accept your offer. We will deliver 8 Gotland class submarines to your port of choice, and 6 Visby class corvettes to your port of choice for now. We are currently building 2 Gotland class submarines and 4 Visby class corvettes for now, and should be done within the next half year (RP).
That was almost exactly two weeks ago. What did we decide for SYAE, should one day count as one month? In that case it was fourteen months ago since we signed the deal, and you should deliver the remaining vessels after six months.

But I'm ok with whatever you decide. At least I should have the starting 8 Gotland class and 6 Visby class, maybe some more?

WP: When I said I only had 25 available for export at the moment, it meant that I had 25 that were done in production. I can sell you more, but you'd have to wait for 'em to be built.

Its not a democratic alliance unless all citizens/political parties have equal rights and freedoms. XD

On a related note, I'm planning on building upgraded versions of WWII-era ships (The Yamato, but now that I'm lacking a carrier, probably the Shinano too). Is there any problem with that?

No problems there.

Jaredcohenia, well then what would your production capability per year be and what would the unit cost of a M-95 be?

I beleive DaeHan said it correctly when he said "DRPs will almost never be sold to a person asking for them. But if someone offers you a DPR, accept it without complaint."

This is mostly for players expecting to aquire the DPRs for Technology and then use them to build up their military. Ain't happening.

I'm updating my list of countries to reflect existing states at the moment:

Maryan [大英洲王國 (대영주왕국)]
Middle Eastern Coalition [中東狀態聯合 (중동상태련합)]

The following people have not replied to my comments:

Honako (Swaziland)
Scandinvans (Bhutan)
Gauthic, Newer Kiwiland, UASR (Hanseong Conference).


If these things are done, please let me know so I don't continue to anticipate some response from those threads.

I beleive Scandinavans has left us for his World War 1 RP.

I beleive Scandinavans has left us for his World War 1 RP.

Well, that just about sucks... I've already mobilized my troops to boot him from Bhutan...

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I assume by Great Britain you mean all of the United Kingdom.

Cool!

Here's my Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12427380&posted=1#post12427380). it is fare from finished but it's a start.

If you need some ideas, take a gander at mine. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518901)

Also after looking at your factbook, I must say that your Government Budget is wrong, unless you have a 100% Income Tax Rate. Your GDP is how much your country makes, not how much your Government taxes the people.

If you need some ideas, take a gander at mine. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518901)

Also after looking at your factbook, I must say that your Government Budget is wrong, unless you have a 100% Income Tax Rate. Your GDP is how much your country makes, not how much your Government taxes the people.

Thanks! Yours is quite inspiring ;)

I shall change my budget BTW. thanks for correcting me!

Okay, that sounds reasonable.
How many Visby class and Gotland class are delivered? This is what we decided Feb 27:


That was almost exactly two weeks ago. What did we decide for SYAE, should one day count as one month? In that case it was fourteen months ago since we signed the deal, and you should deliver the remaining vessels after six months.

But I'm ok with whatever you decide. At least I should have the starting 8 Gotland class and 6 Visby class, maybe some more?

Oh yeah........I didn't realize that it was that long ago. Two weeks....wow. Well, I guess you can have the 10 submarines and maybe 9 corvettes? Now that I look at it, building 4 ships in half a year seems kind of hard, especially with my not-so-good production potential, as say, the CSA or the Han Empire. I mean, if you really want all 10 corvettes, I'll give them to you.

@Carloginias: Are you talking about my democratic alliance? Because I'm pretty sure that all nations in the alliance would have equal rights and freedoms....

I beleive DaeHan said it correctly when he said "DRPs will almost never be sold to a person asking for them. But if someone offers you a DPR, accept it without complaint."

This is mostly for players expecting to aquire the DPRs for Technology and then use them to build up their military. Ain't happening.
What about spares support or attrition replacements? Having those DPRs makes that a snap, wheras without you can find your supplies cut off VERY easily in even a defensive war...:headbang:

Greetings,

Might it be alright if I claimed South Africa? Seems to me that your RP has gotten off to a rather successful start and, as a RPer in currently in search of an active RP, I take great interest in your ventures here.

Oh yes, I forgot: I presume my national title shall be the Kingdom of South Africa.

Thank you.

Jaredcohenia, well then what would your production capability per year be and what would the unit cost of a M-95 be?

3million price, possibly 100 a year. Depends if I make my workers lazy.

Oh yeah........I didn't realize that it was that long ago. Two weeks....wow. Well, I guess you can have the 10 submarines and maybe 9 corvettes? Now that I look at it, building 4 ships in half a year seems kind of hard, especially with my not-so-good production potential, as say, the CSA or the Han Empire. I mean, if you really want all 10 corvettes, I'll give them to you.

@Carloginias: Are you talking about my democratic alliance? Because I'm pretty sure that all nations in the alliance would have equal rights and freedoms....

Ships typically take a very long time to build... average is about one year to two years {larger vessels can take up to ten years}. It's hard for me to imagine building four different ships simultaneously in under one year, especially since most ships aren't built at the same time.

What about spares support or attrition replacements? Having those DPRs makes that a snap, wheras without you can find your supplies cut off VERY easily in even a defensive war...:headbang:

Buy extras :D

People had better do something before I wake the dragon... it's getting rather dull...

Buy extras :D
Ah, touche!;)

For a country needing new fuel sources, we found it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070314/sc_afp/skoreaenergyenvironment_070314082807

Ships typically take a very long time to build... average is about one year to two years {larger vessels can take up to ten years}. It's hard for me to imagine building four different ships simultaneously in under one year, especially since most ships aren't built at the same time.

The corvettes are very small (72m) in length, and not a lot of armaments. I agree that it wouldn't take half a year, but a year or a little bit more I think is possible, especially since every single one of my nations is way more navally based than most countries (Iceland is island, Denmark peninsula, Sweden and Norway bordered by water everywhere. So it could be possible.....

Today, The Scandinavian State of Futuris declared a 15-year plan to create a very green Scandinavia. It was proposed by the Leader, Bjorn Gustavsson, and voted and accepted by the Scandinavian Legislature several days ago. The plan includes, among other things, totally eliminating the need for oil, by designing and building alternative energy transportation, as well as huge alternative energy power plants across the nation. The production of oil in the Northern Seas will continue for export, but the nation will be virtually independent of oil. Usage of coal and natural gas will also decrease sharply, and if everything goes well, they will too, be obsolete in the nation as an energy source.

The R&D team will make announcements to the public about certain advances made, but the technology will not be immediately available to other countries.

Other things in the plan include phasing in mass recycling habits into the public, and putting high fees and taxes on polluting factories and junkyards. Heavy fines will be put on anyone who pollutes, be it even littering in the park.

One of the biggest things that the plan will do, is an extreme conservation of the territorial waters that are house the major fishing industry of Scandinavia. All pollution will be monitored and eliminated, periodical checks of the water will be undergone to ensure purity, a rigid fishing doctrine will be enabled to prevent over-fishing and habitat disasters, and any illegal fishers arrested. This will in general increase the quality of the fish, as well as create a greener and safer Scandinavia.

The plan will take 5% from the Defense budget each year, or around 21.4 billion which ensures its success and completion.

Problems with that idea - it's going to cost a lot more than 21.4 billion USD, and you can't completely cut your reliance off oil and other fossil fuels.

The short term solution is to reduce the need for oil and fossil fuels by developing new alternative sources that are cheaper to maintain and use. I've been planning on something similar, but at the moment, I think I'll stick with the nuclear route.

The corvettes are very small (72m) in length, and not a lot of armaments. I agree that it wouldn't take half a year, but a year or a little bit more I think is possible, especially since every single one of my nations is way more navally based than most countries (Iceland is island, Denmark peninsula, Sweden and Norway bordered by water everywhere. So it could be possible.....

one year sounds about right for the designs...

Problems with that idea - it's going to cost a lot more than 21.4 billion USD, and you can't completely cut your reliance off oil and other fossil fuels.

The short term solution is to reduce the need for oil and fossil fuels by developing new alternative sources that are cheaper to maintain and use. I've been planning on something similar, but at the moment, I think I'll stick with the nuclear route.

Go Nuclear; or Go Fusion. China, Japan and the EU both have fusion projects set to kick off in 2009 RL and the EU IETR is gonna have an output Q of 5 by 2010 increasing to 10 by 2015. (roughly 5000MW)

Spain also has an interesting project engineering Plankton Oil.

I am willing to buy those extra ships. Mainly because my navy is quite small and I could use some extra ships.

Oh yeah........I didn't realize that it was that long ago. Two weeks....wow. Well, I guess you can have the 10 submarines and maybe 9 corvettes? Now that I look at it, building 4 ships in half a year seems kind of hard, especially with my not-so-good production potential, as say, the CSA or the Han Empire. I mean, if you really want all 10 corvettes, I'll give them to you.
I think we can say that I've got 9 submarines and 8 corvettes. By doing that we're keeping it realistic, and I'm satisfied.

I am also going to need either find a suitable picture or someone make me some Lineart for the Leopard 3 tank. It's about half-way through the second year of development, so it's getting there.

http://www.animeonscifi.co.uk/hosted/animarnia/SYAE/Hellcat.jpg

Hows that? its the Line Art for the Animarnia Hellcat which is a Medium Battle Tank I havn't even touched the write up for yet but is basically a cut down Export of the T- 9 Iron Kong

I can Alter the art to your needs of you can tweak it yourself.

Take a look at the basic write-up I made. Theres a few glaring things about that stand out, like the Chain-Gun in the Turret.

I am also going to need either find a suitable picture or someone make me some Lineart for the Leopard 3 tank. It's about half-way through the second year of development, so it's getting there.

http://www.animeonscifi.co.uk/hosted/animarnia/SYAE/Hellcat.jpg

Hows that? its the Line Art for the Animarnia Hellcat which is a Medium Battle Tank I havn't even touched the write up for yet but is basically a cut down Export of the T- 9 Iron Kong which I'm about half way through writing up and is about a year of IC development time done so far but won't enter service until 2019 due to some other technologys needed to be finished hence the Hellcat will be an intermediary when I get around to starting the write up

I can Alter the art to your needs of you can tweak it yourself.

Dae:
Can we have some OOC info about your Tank..specifically its armour value Vs 120mm Smoothbore with 9MJ behind the penitrator; we might buy a few hundred while the Iron Kong gets finished up..

Take a look at the basic write-up I made. Theres a few glaring things about that stand out, like the Chain-Gun in the Turret.

If you give me a brief list of changes you want I'll poke it into MS paint; and can you repost the spec...I'm too lazy to seach for it.

Never mind; Found 'em; which way is the 7mm's facing? and where do you want your Grenade launchers mounted at? a list of changes would help but I got a basic idea

Removing the ATGM's from the Side now..and the chaingun for a start

The only glaring things are the Chain-gun, the symbol in the front of the tank, and the things on the side. The chain-gun should be a regular machine gun. The symbol can just be removed, since German tanks don't have markings like that. I don't know what the things on the sides are, but they aren't the Grenade Launchers I need.

If you give me a brief list of changes you want I'll poke it into MS paint; and can you repost the spec...I'm too lazy to seach for it.

Never mind; Found 'em; which way is the 7mm's facing? and where do you want your Grenade launchers mounted at?

One's in the turret and the other is on the top of the turret. The grenade launchers should be on the sides of the tank.

Do you want the Top 7mm Rear facing or forward facing?

Forward please. This also has an added advantage for me. Since this tank is going to need alot of factories to go into mass production and I will still be using some of my factories to produce Leopard 2A7s. In this way, I am going to need a country thats willing to help me produce these tanks. This won't essentially allow you to use them. It will however make you a very lilely target for the Leopard 2A7s when the begin to be phased out.

One's in the turret and the other is on the top of the turret. The grenade launchers should be on the sides of the tank.

Do you want the Top 7mm Rear facing or forward facing?

Variant A will do nicely. Thank you very much.

Alrighty; I made Two versons; I wasn't sure on the style of Grenade launchers you wanted; the first is a flat type of armoured box mortar style; the second is more of an armoured rotating wheel type with a barrel that points with the turret. and I tweaked the flag ^_^

http://www.animeonscifi.co.uk/hosted/animarnia/SYAE/Leopard3.jpg

if the Abrams and the Leopard had a love child...I think this would be it

haha!!!

I've just looked at everyone's tax rates, and for those that have them, I currently offer the lowest average tax rate :D

The only country that comes close is EEU, with 27% (mine is 25%). It's time to start bringing the wealth of the world to the Han Empire - pay less taxes here!!!

haha!!!

I've just looked at everyone's tax rates, and for those that have them, I currently offer the lowest average tax rate :D

The only country that comes close is EEU, with 27% (mine is 25%). It's time to start bringing the wealth of the world to the Han Empire - pay less taxes here!!!


:P as the economy improves we hope to lower taxes to 17 Percent by 2019 or so and still maintain a pretty decent Budget.

Variant A will do nicely. Thank you very much.

:) okay; feel free to slice off Varient A in an image editing program of your choice

Well, here's what I have so far on the Leopard 3. I decided on a larger tank with more power.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/647/leopard3oq4.jpg

Length: 8 m
Width: 3.7 m
Height: 3 m
Weight: 69 tonnes
Crew: 3 (Commander, Gunner, and Driver)
Main Armament: 1 x Coaxial 135 mm Rheinmetall Smoothbore Cannon
Secondary Armament: 2 x 7.62 mm MG3s. 2 5 Barrelled Grenade Launchers.
Ammo Capicity: 45 Cannon Rounds. (25 APFSDS-T, 15 HEAT-FS, 5 HE-FRAG-FS), 4,500 7.62 Rounds, Numerous Variations of Grenades added before combat.
Engine: 12 Cylinder 2.000 HP Diesel Engine.
Fuel Capicity: 1900 Litres
Fuel Consumption (Road): .25 km per Litre
Fuel Consumption (Cross-Country): .105 km per Litre
Range (Road): 475 km
Range (Cross Country): 200 km
Power to Weight Ratio: 28.99 hp/tonne
Top Speed (Road): 73 km/h
Top Speed (Cross-Country): 53 km/h
Armour: 4th Generation Composite; including including high-hardness steel, tungsten and plastic filler with ceramic component.

Under the heading of the Federated States of Pantonesia, I would like to claim the Lesser Antilles, Suriname, Cape Verde, São Tomé and Príncipe, Saint Helena, the Seychellles, and Mauritius.

Having noticed the need for distinct claims on possessions such as Puerto Rico, how will autonomous territories, dependencies, and insular areas (U.S. Virgin Islands and Former Danish West Indian Islands) be treated?

An example of my former RP writing can be seen here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10191824&postcount=5).

What are we going to do with growth rates?



EDIt -

My last post for tonight; I'm getting antsy about my bigness, and no one's bold enough to try something that will catch the world's attention (besides Russia, which is starting to cool down). Someone please do something before I do it for you.

What are we going to do with growth rates?



EDIt -

My last post for tonight; I'm getting antsy about my bigness, and no one's bold enough to try something that will catch the world's attention (besides Russia, which is starting to cool down). Someone please do something before I do it for you.

Well, the only country that could defeat you is probably the USA, and Carloginias isn't exactly the perfect image of activity :rolleyes:

Russia and India could've done something, especially if they created an alliance, but the person who has India is kinda inactive, and Candistan is cooling down too.

Also, about the 'green plan' thing, here's the link, I think that since I've already researched and designed somewhat something like this in RL, costs would be reduced.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,1704937,00.html
http://www.scandinavica.com/culture/nature/oil-free.htm
http://www.energybulletin.net/15922.html
http://environment.about.com/od/renewableenergy/a/oilfreesweden.htm

@Animarnia: How do you make those tank drawings (and earlier, the assault rifle). They're more like schematics, but is there a program for it?

haha!!!

I've just looked at everyone's tax rates, and for those that have them, I currently offer the lowest average tax rate :D

The only country that comes close is EEU, with 27% (mine is 25%). It's time to start bringing the wealth of the world to the Han Empire - pay less taxes here!!!

That could also be because you are the most populous nation in the world, and a high tax rate would unstabilize the region with discontent and civil violence.

Question: If your GDP per capita is high, your tax rate can be high? Comparatively speaking to other nations: For example, Daehan has a per capita of around 13,000 and tax rate of 25%. I have a capita of around 40,000 and a tax rate of 40%. My countries spend a lot of money on social welfare and stuff though, both in RL and here.

I have no answer to any of these questions but I do have this!

Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.

I have no answer to any of these questions but I do have this!

Silly British, V is for Vendetta!

That could also be because you are the most populous nation in the world, and a high tax rate would unstabilize the region with discontent and civil violence.

Question: If your GDP per capita is high, your tax rate can be high? Comparatively speaking to other nations: For example, Daehan has a per capita of around 13,000 and tax rate of 25%. I have a capita of around 40,000 and a tax rate of 40%. My countries spend a lot of money on social welfare and stuff though, both in RL and here.

Yeah, its not so much the tax rate, but what the tax goes too, and how much the citizens are used to paying tax. On average developed nations have about 40% GDP in tax, simply because of the amount of services advanced nations expect from their government.

And because if you need $1000 to feed your family and earns $1200 a day, you'll be a lot more upset by a 50% tax rate than someone earning $40,000.

haha!!!

I've just looked at everyone's tax rates, and for those that have them, I currently offer the lowest average tax rate :D

The only country that comes close is EEU, with 27% (mine is 25%). It's time to start bringing the wealth of the world to the Han Empire - pay less taxes here!!!
The taxrate in CCPS is progressive in the scale between 1%-80%. I guess the average is somewhere around 45%. If you earn very little, you almost pay no income tax at all, and if you earn very, very much you must pay up to 80%.

@Animarnia: How do you make those tank drawings (and earlier, the assault rifle). They're more like schematics, but is there a program for it?

MS Paint and and a few hours worth of time.

The following people have not replied to my comments:

Honako (Swaziland)
Scandinvans (Bhutan)
Gauthic, Newer Kiwiland, UASR (Hanseong Conference).


If these things are done, please let me know so I don't continue to anticipate some response from those threads.

Sorry :p (I keep seeing your name as the last replied in searches, and assumed nothing has happened. And Jolt doesn't like the idea of me subscribing....)

I think we can end the conference for now? Because no one else seemed to want to continue it.

I think the cue is to get the people here who aren't active to be active. It's unnerving being the largest power in this world and no one to butt heads with, especially since the last person I wanted to butt heads with apparently left (two of them).

Sorry :p (I keep seeing your name as the last replied in searches, and assumed nothing has happened. And Jolt doesn't like the idea of me subscribing....)

I think we can end the conference for now? Because no one else seemed to want to continue it.

Heh... well, that frees up some liberty that I can use for other things...

I would do something, but it's kinda hard because I am technically surrounded.

I would do something, but it's kinda hard because I am technically surrounded.

Well you've already started two world wars? could always make it three

Well you've already started two world wars? could always make it three

But both of those wars were started by Authoritarian Figures. Not even the Chancellor of Germany has the much power.

And who would I start it against? France? That player isn't here. Go east? I happen to like my relations with the east since they like my weapons. North? Maybe... South? No one likes Italy and I don't want to invade a country shaped like a boot.

UK Dude: I want to tell you that I had a deal with the former Regime of the UK to help them produce the G36 Assault Rifle for their country. I wanted to tell you this since you have a few and the past contract is now void. If you want G36 Assault Rifles you'll have to talk to me.

But both of those wars were started by Authoritarian Figures. Not even the Chancellor of Germany has the much power.

And who would I start it against? France? That player isn't here. Go east? I happen to like my relations with the east since they like my weapons. North? Maybe... South? No one likes Italy and I don't want to invade a country shaped like a boot.

The only direction that you didn't give a reason for not invading was North.

Coincidence?

Oh, and BTW, I posted a reply on the Svalbard thread, I'm not sure if you noticed, I'm kind of waiting for you to do something. Most of my SIC announcements about what I'm doing there I'll probably do in the IC Thread, so...

Greetings,

Might it be alright if I claimed South Africa? Seems to me that your RP has gotten off to a rather successful start and, as a RPer in currently in search of an active RP, I take great interest in your ventures here.

Oh yes, I forgot: I presume my national title shall be the Kingdom of South Africa.

Thank you.

In case this was overlooked in the midst of things, I shall present it again for your consideration.

We in the RSFSR just want to say that we are happy to have South Africa around. It adds more flavor to the mix. Also, I believe the whole Siberia conflict over the borders should be left at that: a dispute. Kind of like India and Pakistan with the Hindu Kush. Plus, it might develope into bigger things later on with the RSFSR getting pissed off that Japan claims the entire nation and Japan getting mad that the RSFSR is waltzing around on "their" land.

Lol, been waiting for that XD

I've mapped the areas that I'm using for my nation's stats in the factbook, though, so Daehan has something to go by. :cool:

Oh yeah!? Well MY map shows the REAL RSFSR, not the half-brained Japan claim! AHAHAHAH!


http://www.theodora.com/maps/new8/ussr.gif
No more Siberia for you!
jk ;)

In case this was overlooked in the midst of things, I shall present it again for your consideration.

Sorry bout that, approved.

Sorry bout that, approved.

Thank you. I shall set to work on creating a factbook first thing tomorrow morning.

Welcome to SYAE, Lachenburg!

And The Map (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/kopparbergs/syae-world.gif) is updated with the UK and South Africa. Is there anything else I should update on the map?

Can you also edit Siberia to reflect Candistan and mine control?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/rmdsc/SYAE/KiwilandEmpireMapIV.jpg

Or just label it disputed :p

In case you haven't figured it out, I'm a big history guy {more so East Asia than other places...}, and having seen the mess of histories traversing the universe of SYAE, I think it's high-time that we tried to organize it all. I've started the history building, but I'm going to need to know what happened in your respective countries to permit your creation. I'll be starting a new thread devoted to the History of SYAE, but in the meantime, please start thinking about this at least minutely, because it'll be a lot more useful if we have everyone's histories.



And some notes about the map:

(1) Wagdog never claimed any part of Malaysia;
(2) Israel and surrounding territories {West Bank, Gaza Strip, et al.} should be unclaimed.



EDIT>>> the link to the History Thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520926

Is it still possible to join?

Alright, the following people are on notice because of inactivity:

Aiutar
Carloginia
Gauthic
H-Town Hejas (UASR)
No Taxes (Brazil)
Psychotica (French Imperial Republic)
The Nameless Country (Union of the Peoples and Workers States)

If you don't reply or talk to me VIA TG's to come to some sort of arrangement your claims will be voided.

Any other suggestions of nations that have been somewhat inactive?

In case you haven't figured it out, I'm a big history guy {more so East Asia than other places...}, and having seen the mess of histories traversing the universe of SYAE, I think it's high-time that we tried to organize it all. I've started the history building, but I'm going to need to know what happened in your respective countries to permit your creation. I'll be starting a new thread devoted to the History of SYAE, but in the meantime, please start thinking about this at least minutely, because it'll be a lot more useful if we have everyone's histories.



And some notes about the map:

(1) Wagdog never claimed any part of Malaysia;
(2) Israel and surrounding territories {West Bank, Gaza Strip, et al.} should be unclaimed.



EDIT>>> the link to the History Thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520926

Do you want me to post my history notes of the SCE in your history thread?

OOC: Pardon the double post, but call this an interest pique:

Animaria/South Africa/Honako (if he's even here anymore), would ya'll be interested in a conference of Pan-Africanism (hosted by me, of course)?

Seeing as Africa has been the normal, shit-kicked site of the larger powers throughout time, this could for the first time in modern history solidify the power of Africa and its nations.

I'm not going radical, just something to start things amiably.

Is it still possible to join?

If so, I would like to claim Myanmar, Laos, Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. They would be designated The Allied States of Southeast Asia.

If so, I would like to claim Myanmar, Laos, Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. It would be designated The Allied States of Southeast Asia.

Aw, no African love?

You'll have to wait for West Pacific, but I think those are all open.

They are open, but in my opinion the claim is too large. Thats almost all of South-east Asia, not counting those under the control of Wagdog.

They are open, but in my opinion the claim is too large. Thats almost all of South-east Asia, not counting those under the control of Wagdog.

That's actually not too large. Now, if he had claime Bangledesh somehow, that would have been too large (since Bangledesh has over 200 million people...)

If so, I would like to claim Myanmar, Laos, Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. They would be designated The Allied States of Southeast Asia.

Approved, I will add it to the list shortly.

That's actually not too large. Now, if he had claime Bangledesh somehow, that would have been too large (since Bangledesh has over 200 million people...)


How they cram that many people into that area, nobody knows... :eek:

Anyways, thanks for the approval. Not to overextend my boundaries, but could I add the Andaman Islands and Bhutan to my claims, considering their relatively tiny populations and unimportance? :D

How they cram that many people into that area, nobody knows... :eek:

Anyways, thanks for the approval. Not to overextend my boundaries, but could I add the Andaman Islands and Bhutan to my claims, considering their relatively tiny populations and unimportance? :D

Claim has already been made. Any further claims must be made via RP.

Ok, I meant Brunei anyway. I don't think a possession in Bhutan would last very long.

Ok, I meant Brunei anyway. I don't think a possession in Bhutan would last very long.

Same answer as before.

Newest Version of the Leopard 3. Should probably be the last revision.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/647/leopard3oq4.jpg

Length: 8 m (11.6 with Main Gun)
Width: 3.7 m
Height: 3 m
Weight: 69 tonnes
Crew: 3 (Commander, Gunner, and Driver)
Main Armament: 1 x Coaxial 135 mm Rheinmetall Smoothbore Cannon
Secondary Armament: 2 x 7.62 mm MG3s. 2 5 Barrelled Grenade Launchers.
Ammo Capicity: 45 Cannon Rounds. (25 APFSDS-T, 15 HEAT-FS, 5 HE-FRAG-FS), 4,500 7.62 Rounds, Numerous Variations of Grenades added before combat.
Engine: 12 Cylinder 2,000 HP Diesel Engine.
Fuel Capicity: 1900 Litres
Fuel Consumption (Road): .25 km per Litre
Fuel Consumption (Cross-Country): .105 km per Litre
Range (Road): 475 km
Range (Cross Country): 200 km
Power to Weight Ratio: 28.99 hp/tonne
Top Speed (Road): 73 km/h
Top Speed (Cross-Country): 53 km/h
Armour: 4th Generation Composite; including including high-hardness steel, tungsten and plastic filler with ceramic component.
Fording Depth: 1.25 m
Deep Water Depth: 2.35 m
Underwater Depth (With Snorkel): 3.85 m
Other Equipment: PERI-R 17 A4 Panoramic Periscope, EMES 17 Rheinmetall Magnification Sight, CMTA2 Infared Sight, CE635 Laser Range-Finder, and GPS Systems.

Same answer as before.

I am aware of that, I was simply correcting myself.

Since Greece is in my original claim, why can't I have it? ;)

Since Greece is in my original claim, why can't I have it? ;)

Because your original claim conflicted with someone else's claim. Even though they have now left SYAE that doesn't mean that they never existed. I usually RP as though it's a new Regime, much like I will with Maryan.

I'll give you Israel and the West Bank, but if you want Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights you're gonna have to work something out with UASR because those are disputed areas in RL and I am not going to decide who owns it when in RL there has been anywhere from 60-3,500 years of fighting for control over those areas.

(2) Israel and surrounding territories {West Bank, Gaza Strip, et al.} should be unclaimed.
Actually, Israel was claimed by this guy Zokian in this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12384725#post12384725), but he hasn't posted yet, and WP recognized it but forgot to add his claims to the first post.

But I think he should be deleted due to inactivity now anyway...

Welcome to SYAE, Lachenburg!

And The Map (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/kopparbergs/syae-world.gif) is updated with the UK and South Africa. Is there anything else I should update on the map?

Hmmm, seems you've forgotten the UK. It doesn't seems to be colored in the linky.

Hmmm, seems you've forgotten the UK. It doesn't seems to be colored in the linky.

Refresh it.

Refresh it.

Solved :D

If so, I would like to claim Myanmar, Laos, Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. They would be designated The Allied States of Southeast Asia.

Another friendly neighbor to the south...

I'll get you a name before the night is done.

Ok, I meant Brunei anyway. I don't think a possession in Bhutan would last very long.

A possession in either would not last long if it was conquered...

Can you also edit Siberia to reflect Candistan and mine control?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/rmdsc/SYAE/KiwilandEmpireMapIV.jpg

Or just label it disputed :p

Disputed please

OOC: Pardon the double post, but call this an interest pique:

Animaria/South Africa/Honako (if he's even here anymore), would ya'll be interested in a conference of Pan-Africanism (hosted by me, of course)?

Seeing as Africa has been the normal, shit-kicked site of the larger powers throughout time, this could for the first time in modern history solidify the power of Africa and its nations.

I'm not going radical, just something to start things amiably.

Aye' We'd be up for that.

OOC: Pardon the double post, but call this an interest pique:

Animaria/South Africa/Honako (if he's even here anymore), would ya'll be interested in a conference of Pan-Africanism (hosted by me, of course)?

Seeing as Africa has been the normal, shit-kicked site of the larger powers throughout time, this could for the first time in modern history solidify the power of Africa and its nations.

I'm not going radical, just something to start things amiably.

Of course. A unified African effort would be far preferable in light of the emerging international circumstances.

Newest Version of the Leopard 3. Should probably be the last revision.

Not that I am fishing for Compliments, but does anyone have anything to say about the tank, at all?

Not that I am fishing for Compliments, but does anyone have anything to say about the tank, at all?

I thought it looked good.

Not that I am fishing for Compliments, but does anyone have anything to say about the tank, at all?

How much does it cost?

How much does it cost?

Considering the Abrams costs around 3 Million Per Tank and the Leopard 2 is cheaper. I would expect this to cost roughly 5.5 to 6.5 Million per tank Possibly more. Don't expect me to Export it any time soon, well because it's still in development and it won't go into production for about 7 or 8 years.

A possession in either would not last long if it was conquered...

True.

The Leopard 2A6 will be available for Export a few years earlier then the Leopard 3's initial production, so if you want some of the most advanced tanks in world, it's been said that the Leopard 2 or the M1A2 Abrams is the best, then talk to me.

Considering the Abrams costs around 3 Million Per Tank and the Leopard 2 is cheaper. I would expect this to cost roughly 5.5 to 6.5 Million per tank Possibly more. Don't expect me to Export it any time soon, well because it's still in development and it won't go into production for about 7 or 8 years.

Eh, too expensive as it is...

If Cal would ever show up, I might deal for his Abrams tanks...unless Candistan has some decent Russian models (hint).

South African Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520918)

Still updating/adding various pieces of information as it becomes available; but, for the most part, it's ready to go.

Not that I am fishing for Compliments, but does anyone have anything to say about the tank, at all?

looks good; maybe a bit of infor about how its supirior to its predecesor?

looks good; maybe a bit of infor about how its supirior to its predecesor?

Pretty much it has a larger gun, bigger engine and transmission, it's computer systems have received a massive upgrade making them that much quicker, and it's armor will most likely be increasing 2-fold over the Leopard 2A6.

I'll make a much better write up later, but that pretty much sums it up.

Do you want me to post my history notes of the SCE in your history thread?

Absolutely!!! The first post is the history itself, but I hope that people will come in and debate historical events (no, not debate... but historians do it all of the time anyway...) and supply their own facts, so it is a comprehensive history of SYAE.


And my southern neighbor now has a name:

Allied States of Southeast Asia [越南聯盟國 (월남련맹국)]

Eh, too expensive as it is...

If Cal would ever show up, I might deal for his Abrams tanks...unless Candistan has some decent Russian models (hint).

I have tanks too :(

We'll trade you discounted AR-12 Assault rifles in a year for niffy dicounted top of the line Tanks as we're looking for something to mid term until or Iron Kong is finished which will only be exported to people we consider good friends like Han and Futiris. the Iron Kong won't be finished Icly until 2019 but will be a real monster when its done I hope.?

Germany no friend to African Nation?

EDIT: LOL TIME WARPED

I have tanks too :(

We'll trade you discounted AR-12 Assault rifles in a year for niffy dicounted top of the line Tanks as we're looking for something to mid term until or Iron Kong is finished which will only be exported to people we consider good friends like Han and Futiris. the Iron Kong won't be finished Icly until 2019 but will be a real monster when its done I hope.?

We'll trade you discounted AR-12 Assault rifles in a year for niffy dicounted top of the line Tanks as we're looking for something to mid term until or Iron Kong is finished which will only be exported to people we consider good friends like Han and Futiris. the Iron Kong won't be finished Icly until 2019 but will be a real monster when its done I hope.?

The Han Armed Forces use 5.8mm weapons; no exception.

On the new tank, we'd be willing to subsidize some of the cost for this new development.

As long as it's all IC though...

The Han Armed Forces use 5.8mm weapons; no exception.

On the new tank, we'd be willing to subsidize some of the cost for this new development.

As long as it's all IC though...

See thats why the AR-12 is modular it can be modifed with very little trouble to fire 5.8mm rounds.

and We'll knock something up ICly for the tank development; would it be fair to shave off 2 or 3 years of development time if your providing cash and extra work teams/expertise?

Absolutely!!! The first post is the history itself, but I hope that people will come in and debate historical events (no, not debate... but historians do it all of the time anyway...) and supply their own facts, so it is a comprehensive history of SYAE.


And my southern neighbor now has a name:

Allied States of Southeast Asia [越南聯盟國 (월남련맹국)]

Schweet. I'll post my history once I'm done my factbook, if that's ok.

Germany no friend to African Nation?

EDIT: LOL TIME WARPED

Of course but wouldn't your Leopard be a direct competitor?

Of course but wouldn't your Leopard be a direct competitor?

Maybe.... if African nation want it to be.

See thats why the AR-12 is modular it can be modifed with very little trouble to fire 5.8mm rounds.

and We'll knock something up ICly for the tank development; would it be fair to shave off 2 or 3 years of development time if your providing cash and extra work teams/expertise?

how long is the development currently?

If it take 2-3 years to develop, then no. But I'm guessing somewhere between 8-10 years, so shaving off 2-3 years would be reasonable: 5-8 years is a good bet. By that time, I'll have introduced the JJC-07 tank :D...


And for the AR-12; we'll work on the AR-13 together :D

Schweet. I'll post my history once I'm done my factbook, if that's ok.

that'll do :D

Wow, I see Russia's claim and Kiwiland's claims conflict quite a bit more than I originally thought, should be interesting.

how long is the development currently?

If it take 2-3 years to develop, then no. But I'm guessing somewhere between 8-10 years, so shaving off 2-3 years would be reasonable: 5-8 years is a good bet. By that time, I'll have introduced the JJC-07 tank :D...


And for the AR-12; we'll work on the AR-13 together :D

currently 11 years (2019 finished) so if we shave off 3 years that brings us down to 8 years development time

currently 11 years (2019 finished) so if we shave off 3 years that brings us down to 8 years development time

If it's SIC, I can't do anything until confronted.

If it's IC, I'll send you an interest post ASAP.

If it's SIC, I can't do anything until confronted.

If it's IC, I'll send you an interest post ASAP.

just SIC'ed your AIC thingy :)

Wow, I see Russia's claim and Kiwiland's claims conflict quite a bit more than I originally thought, should be interesting.

They conflict - period. Seems like we need a war decide who owns what, but in order to start the war, we have to decide who owns what in the first place, because we can't have the two fronts some hundreds of miles behind each other...

They conflict - period. Seems like we need a war decide who owns what, but in order to start the war, we have to decide who owns what in the first place, because we can't have the two fronts some hundreds of miles behind each other...

Maybe some "line of cotrol" like India/Pakistan right down the middle? >.> we could always start the war by making it look like one has attacked the other

We'll trade you discounted AR-12 Assault rifles in a year for niffy dicounted top of the line Tanks as we're looking for something to mid term until or Iron Kong is finished which will only be exported to people we consider good friends like Han and Futiris. the Iron Kong won't be finished Icly until 2019 but will be a real monster when its done I hope.?

...No Pan-Africanism Sentiment? :(

I'll create the African conference thread tomorrow to fix that ;)

...No Pan-Africanism Sentiment? :(

I'll create the African conference thread tomorrow to fix that ;)

If you play your cards right there will be much love for the SCE.

Edit: any factbook yet so we can make an aproach about an embasy exchange?

I see no one like Germany.

It's not a matter of people liking Germany - it's more a matter of people being "afraid" of Germany. Do something!!! Don't ask to be the talk of the town - BE the talk of the town! {just don't murder 12 million minorities while you're at it.}

Since the French guy isn't here... I think I may just take the Benelux.... maybe. Might have to think about that one.

It's not a matter of people liking Germany - it's more a matter of people being "afraid" of Germany. Do something!!! Don't ask to be the talk of the town - BE the talk of the town! {just don't murder 12 million minorities while you're at it.}

The something you should do is help me retake Greece, Granate ;)

The something you should do is help me retake Greece, Granate ;)

Only if you help me take over the Benelux.

I see no one like Germany.

It's not a matter of people liking Germany - it's more a matter of people being "afraid" of Germany. Do something!!! Don't ask to be the talk of the town - BE the talk of the town! {just don't murder 12 million minorities while you're at it.}

Want a demonstration?

Depends, is there an in-flight meal?

Since the French guy isn't here... I think I may just take the Benelux.... maybe. Might have to think about that one.

Want a demonstration?

for me :D

Damn, but I'll play along.

Depends, is there an in-flight meal?

for me :D

Damn, but I'll play along.

time lag must be bad for me. hopefully, no one anticipates my next move O_O

time lag must be bad for me. hopefully, no one anticipates my next move O_O

Wait, what? I thought I was getting a demonstration.

Wait, what? I thought I was getting a demonstration.

the demonstration is served.

Alright, the following people are on notice because of inactivity:

Aiutar
Carloginia
Gauthic
H-Town Hejas (UASR)
No Taxes (Brazil)
Psychotica (French Imperial Republic)
The Nameless Country (Union of the Peoples and Workers States)

If you don't reply or talk to me VIA TG's to come to some sort of arrangement your claims will be voided.

Any other suggestions of nations that have been somewhat inactive?

I see no one like Germany.

Heheheh, I've got no problems with you!

I might get a bit uncomfortable if you launch your Benelux Operation...;)

Heheheh, I've got no problems with you!

I might get a bit uncomfortable if you launch your Benelux Operation...;)

It's mostly because the French Guy isn't here to stop me.... and it won't be some huge slaughter-fest. It'll be just a small operation to bring the Benelux under my control. All things considered, Dutch and Belgian are closer to German then French.

All things considered, Dutch and Belgian are closer to German then French.

Depends on which Belgians you're talking about. Certainly, the Dutch-speaking Flemish and German-minority of eastern Wallonia might be more inclined to lie their loyalties with Germany (provided the Dutch are also brought under your wing). However, the predominately French Walloons would most likely oppose your efforts towards annexation/Germanization.

well, as long as you work at it, and people are satisfied with the result, then just do it.

The exciting thing is not knowing if people will be satisfied with the result. At the moment, my intervention in Bhutan seems to be not noticed... kind of hoping that India will come back, but seeing if that fails, I'll do something more extreme.

Granate, I'm not sure if you noticed, I posted a reply on the Svalbard thread. I don't really know what to do until you do something.

Before I'm able to write the history of my nation, can I just ask one thing:

Can I have the lands in Greece that Bulgaria controlled? And the one German strip to the right of it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Gr-triple-occupation.png

It would make me happy and not want to take over Greece anymore :P

Before I'm able to write the history of my nation, can I just ask one thing:

Can I have the lands in Greece that Bulgaria controlled? And the one German strip to the right of it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Gr-triple-occupation.png

It would make me happy and not want to take over Greece anymore :P

Lol, I'm guess I'm giving you a hard time with Greece :p

What I don't understand....are you saying that the Byzantine Empire existed to present times, and that Greece only recently was 'conquered' by Nuevo Italia, who then mysteriously disappeared, and so Greece still wants to be part of your union? Because if that's so, first of all you should ask WP if that's possible, then add to your history, and then I'd RP something about Greece gladly rejoining your empire/union. I don't want to look like an ass who won't let you get Greece without a lengthy RP and conquest, if it somewhat belonged to your empire before....

WP, I have something that needs to brought to your attention. AK-108's rping skills are vastly below average. Case in point are these posts in Kiwiland's Factbook.

Shall we get some embassy's set up and become allies and all? Yep.

We are located south of the empire of cripteria, in the middle east... we have lots of oil!!! And Nuclear Power!!! Which we will share with you...

So I would like you to to either tell him to shape up or get out. I'm just making my opinion heard.

My plan is to recreate the Byzantine Empire, my prime minister is a loonie.

I'm saying that the Byzantine Empire existed until...1453 I believe...and then those silly Ottomans came and took over. Then history played it's part basically until late-WWII, when a Serb assassinated Enver Hoxha (Serbs are good at assassinations) and annexed Albania. The Yugoslav Communist Party was able to influence Bulgaria before the Soviets were able to, and sided with the Soviets during the end of World War II, showing their stuff at the Battle of Romania and so forth.

What we want is a peaceful union in the Balkan Mountains; a nation where Serbs, Greeks, Turks, Bulgars, and Romanians can exist peacefully.

Not the Albanians, though. Damned Albanians.

Granate, I'm not sure if you noticed, I posted a reply on the Svalbard thread. I don't really know what to do until you do something.

Post'd

Unless that French Guy posts something soon, the Benelux is mine.

Can I have south Africa and Madagascar. Or is it already taken? Or am I too late to stake out a claim?

Can I have south Africa and Madagascar. Or is it already taken? Or am I too late to stake out a claim?

South Africa is already taken. Madagascar isn't. Work from there

South Africa is already taken. Madagascar isn't. Work from there

Madagascar and the surrounding islands then. I will name it the Federal Republic of Nabea.

Madagascar and the surrounding islands then. I will name it the Federal Republic of Nabea.

You're going to have to be alot more specific then that. Just saying surrounding Islands could mean anything from just the few islands north of it to the Maldives. Make the choice.

You're going to have to be alot more specific then that. Just saying surrounding Islands could mean anything from just the few islands north of it to the Maldives. Make the choice.

Here is what I want. I will use a map so you can see it for yourself; and tell me if it is claimed already. I added a litte to increace its size. Also, could you link me all the important threads so I can catch up.

Here is what I want. I will use a map so you can see it for yourself; and tell me if it is claimed already. I added a litte to increace its size. Also, could you link me all the important threads so I can catch up.

Mozambique has already been claimed. One of the easiest ways to see if something hasn't been claimed is to look on the front page and look at the map. And I can't approve you, that's West Pacific's job, he might not be on for a while.

Mozambique has already been claimed. One of the easiest ways to see if something hasn't been claimed is to look on the front page and look at the map. And I can't approve you, that's West Pacific's job, he might not be on for a while.

Okay, screw it. I'll just take Madagascar. How is that?

Okay, screw it. I'll just take Madagascar. How is that?

I dunno, you tell me?

I dunno, you tell me?

That is fine.

specificity always works:

Here's a map of the "surrounding islands"


http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/islands_oceans_poles/indian_ocean_w_96.jpg

Oskar Svensson, Minister of Foreign Affairs

To The Han Empire,

We would like to offer you our Gotland class submarine due to your request for one earlier. The Gotland class is the first AIP submarine in the world, and it is one of the best submarines in the world.

The AIP, I'm sure you know, stands for Air Independent Propulsion, which enables the conventional submarine to stay underwater for weeks at a time, previously only achieved by nuclear submarines. In mock sub-hunting tests, it out performed every submarine there, both nuclear and conventional. It is one of the stealthiest submarines in the world, and we can ship a maximum of four to you before we must begin building more. Please respond if you are interested.

The Scandinavian State of Futuris

ooc: funny, I was on the verge of buying the same subs from the last guy who played Sweden before the RP restarted...

IC:

The Agency of Imperial Contracts has reviewed your offer and we are very much interested in previewing its specifications. On surface analysis, it seems to be worthy for the Imperial Han Navy and will suffice one of its modernization program objectives. We will send representatives from the Imperial Office of Naval Research to review the submarine (ooc: just zip up specs for the sub here in your reply). If they deem it worthy in their examinations, we would inquire to the price for the vessel.

Count Yu Deukgong [柳得恭伯 (유득공포국)]
His Imperial Majesty's Special Economic Representative and Board Director


Is this still going on?

Jaredcohenia, if you want Greece you will have to RP someting out, I won't grant you any territory under any other circumstances, your initial claim is what you get, I'm not going to start dishing out territory to anybody who asks.

Granate, could you please wait three days on your invasion of the Low Countries? If the people on that warning list for inactivity I made haven't responded yet I am going to void their claims, so your war will become one against two NPC's rather than a war against another player, since I have a feeling you are doing this only because Psychotica has been quite inactive.

Undbagarten, your claim of Madagascar is approved.

Granate, could you please wait three days on your invasion of the Low Countries? If the people on that warning list for inactivity I made haven't responded yet I am going to void their claims, so your war will become one against two NPC's rather than a war against another player, since I have a feeling you are doing this only because Psychotica has been quite inactive.

Actually it would be against 3 NPCs, Belgium, The Netherlands, and Luxembourg. Voiding the French Guy's claims really screws with my reasont to invade. No Inept french Government. But I'll do as you say.

@WP
Ok Cal Said He'll export me the F-22A instead (just got a PM) so I'm gonna change it in my fact book to F-22A instead of F-23

The Russian Atlantic Fleet has been ordered to set sail for the seas outide f Germany to moniter the situation there.

What is in this Atlantic Fleet? For all I know it could be 4 Corvettes and 3 Destroyers. Oh and how close are you to Germany? If you're really close I could call you for breach of territorial waters, or you'd be too close to Futuris. If you're in the North Sea, I don't think Maryan or Futuris would like that at all. An Fleet from someone they are wary of, in the North Sea really would make them watch you.

Is this still going on?

Oh yeah, I must have missed that, sorry.

Time for a n00b question.......what are 'specs'?

What is in this Atlantic Fleet? For all I know it could be 4 Corvettes and 3 Destroyers. Oh and how close are you to Germany? If you're really close I could call you for breach of territorial waters, or you'd be too close to Futuris. If you're in the North Sea, I don't think Maryan or Futuris would like that at all. An Fleet from someone they are wary of, in the North Sea really would make them watch you.

Yeah, the journey from Russia to Germany on sea would go through a lot of my coastal and territorial waters, unless you took a rather large detour...and then there's Maryan who has the UK. And finally, don't get too close to Svalbard..... ;)

Oh yeah, I must have missed that, sorry.

Time for a n00b question.......what are 'specs'?

specifications.

What is in this Atlantic Fleet? For all I know it could be 4 Corvettes and 3 Destroyers. Oh and how close are you to Germany? If you're really close I could call you for breach of territorial waters, or you'd be too close to Futuris. If you're in the North Sea, I don't think Maryan or Futuris would like that at all. An Fleet from someone they are wary of, in the North Sea really would make them watch you.


Indeed, the British wouldn't be amused if they noticed the RUssian FLeet in the North Sea. My Nimrods would spot you immediately (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12441912&postcount=153) FYI.

sorry I was a little vague on this. It is just a few destroyers and corvettees, nothing big. They just want to check out some stuff on what is going on in West Europe.

They are based out of Kaliningrad and are just going to chill and observe just out of territorial waters by Germany. Their actions aren't hostile unless someone decides to attack them, which would make the rest of the fleet sail over and counterattack.

I wouldn't mind it if the Russians started sending their massive fleet out to patrol the North Sea. AT LEAST IT WOULD BE SOMETHING.

I'd prefere them to stay in port :p

At least untill the 21st. Century Royal Navy is ready for action :cool:

I wouldn't mind it if the Russians started sending their massive fleet out to patrol the North Sea. AT LEAST IT WOULD BE SOMETHING.

Well isn't Russia still genociding the Chechnyians?

I wouldn't mind it if the Russians started sending their massive fleet out to patrol the North Sea. AT LEAST IT WOULD BE SOMETHING.

Well isn't Russia still genociding the Chechnyians?

I thought so...

Well people, My invasion of the Benelux won't be happening for about 3 days, because of WP's official order.

Well, about the Chechnyans. The Last Chechen War has been declared over as pretty much all of the Chechens in Russia are either dead or fled to other countries. Now Russia can focus on better things like rebuilding Moscow or watching other countries kill each other.

Well, about the Chechnyans. The Last Chechen War has been declared over as pretty much all of the Chechens in Russia are either dead or fled to other countries. Now Russia can focus on better things like rebuilding Moscow or watching other countries kill each other.

as you wish...

I thought so...

Well people, My invasion of the Benelux won't be happening for about 3 days, because of WP's official order.

Hmm, seems only logic that we all wait three days as well untill we post any further reaction.

It's not an order, it was a request, you can still use your "French Ineptitude" reason, just RP that France has collapsed and you are merely trying to fill the power vacuum. I say merely even though the people of the Benelux probably wouldn't be too happy.

It's not an order, it was a request, you can still use your "French Ineptitude" reason, just RP that France has collapsed and you are merely trying to fill the power vacuum. I say merely even though the people of the Benelux probably wouldn't be too happy.

They will probably remember the Third Reich...

They will probably remember the Third Reich...

Atleast Germany hasn't been making massive military movements so far. All I have mobilized are roughly 65,000 Troops. Most of them being the Infrantry, with around 7,000 being the Armoured Divisions, and another 3,000 for the 18 Fighter Jets moved into the region. Finally 1,200 of them are my Fallschirmjäger, basically Spec Ops. Troops. Yes, I know Fallschirmjäger means Parachute Hunter, but they aren't Paratroopers. They are named that because of the 54,000 Troops who gave their lives in the Fallschirmjäger Divisions in WWII, and most of the time they weren't paradropped into Combat.

Things seem to get real slow in the evening.

Yeah, it really does.

I'm going to the Bahamas for Spring Break, so I probably won't have access to the Internet from this Wednesday to Tuesday of next week. Unless my hotel has free internet access, and an available computer. So, anything you really want to say to me say it now, or else you won't hear from me for around 6 days....

SYAE is getting boring :S

There's like...nothing going on.

SYAE is getting boring :S

There's like...nothing going on.

You could always finally mobilize your army and invade Greece....that would be fun :p

SYAE is getting boring :S

There's like...nothing going on.

I have to wait three days for my Benelux Invasion.

By the way, to all the nations in the Democratic Alliance thread, I posted, and it took so long cause I thought that I had posted, but Jolt deleted it, so I did it againt the next day. Maryan responded, but I need to know if all of you can make it....

By the way, to all the nations in the Democratic Alliance thread, I posted, and it took so long cause I thought that I had posted, but Jolt deleted it, so I did it againt the next day. Maryan responded, but I need to know if all of you can make it....

Ahhh! That was my 222nd post.....

I'm not evil yet, only a third of the way there :p

SYAE is getting boring :S

There's like...nothing going on.

I suppose we could get a war started over Siberia....

Ahhh! That was my 222nd post.....

I'm not evil yet, only a third of the way there :p

So you're going to turn out be the evil fascist dictator (along the lines of hitler, stalin, or mussolini) who kills a bunch of people or something like that and gets mostly everyone pissed off at him and thus starts a third world war?

I'm going to the Bahamas for Spring Break, so I probably won't have access to the Internet from this Wednesday to Tuesday of next week. Unless my hotel has free internet access, and an available computer. So, anything you really want to say to me say it now, or else you won't hear from me for around 6 days....

Aprove our fighter purchase on your factbook

Aprove our fighter purchase on your factbook

Got it, sorry I didn't get it earlier, but I must have missed it.

So you're going to turn out be the evil fascist dictator (along the lines of hitler, stalin, or mussolini) who kills a bunch of people or something like that and gets mostly everyone pissed off at him and thus starts a third world war?

Maybe.....who knows? :rolleyes:

In all seriousness though, that would be a bad idea. First of all, I would be relating myself to Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini which is always a bad idea.

And, I'm only a sixth of the way there. The people you were talking about are 7/6 evil....

Got it, sorry I didn't get it earlier, but I must have missed it.

No Problem :) Hope you enjoy Barbados; Wish I was going to a nice warm beach instead of stuck at home in Wales doped up on meds and curled up with the flu

SYAE is getting boring :S

There's like...nothing going on.

You know, it's going to get pretty hot in Bhutan. Seeing as how China and India (along with H-Town Tejas if I am correct) are going to fight it out in Southeast Asia. I know that I've said that a fight like that would be fun in the past....and know we get to see it!!

To make it interesting, you could always join sides....

You know, it's going to get pretty hot in Bhutan. Seeing as how China and India (along with H-Town Tejas if I am correct) are going to fight it out in Southeast Asia. I know that I've said that a fight like that would be fun in the past....and know we get to see it!!

To make it interesting, you could always join sides....

Well when I feel up to actually writing it I'm going to write a coup in Sudan ;) a very different Coup though; Economic and Information warfare are fun ways of suberting nations to your will