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No Problem :) Hope you enjoy Barbados; Wish I was going to a nice warm beach instead of stuck at home in Wales doped up on meds and curled up with the flu

Oh.....that sucks. :(

Oh.....that sucks. :(

its the season for it; its been building for 4 months; I'm just glad the bugger has finnaly broke so I can feel like a train wreck for a few days and then feel better.

its the season for it; its been building for 4 months; I'm just glad the bugger has finnaly broke so I can feel like a train wreck for a few days and then feel better.

Yeah, a few of my friends had the flu lately, and missed out on the big Spring dance at my school. Now they have several tests to make up, which sucks, because I took most of them earlier, and.....did not succeed.

BTW, I remember the French guy (Pyschotika or something) saying that he was in pain, and it was one of his last posts or something. Maybe we should give him a break of the inactivity list or something, for like a few more days? I mean, if he doesn't show up until then, then, well, too bad for his pain, but when you're in pain, and having to go to the hospital (maybe even stay) then it's hard to post on NS.

I mean, it's really up to WP, and Granate who's invading Benelux, a part of French dude's claim?

EDIT: French person could be girl, sorry.

Yay, we've gone past a 1,000! (in post #)

Yay, we've gone past a 1,000! (in post #)

Yay, we're finally one of the big ones!

I remember when the old E5 was in the several thousands...

Yay, we're finally one of the big ones!

I remember when the old E5 was in the several thousands...

Well, didn't Earth V last way longer? I mean, I'm not an expert. All I know is that Earth II seems to be pretty huge, with generally, a lot of rules. I mean, Earth II started in 2003.....

Well, didn't Earth V last way longer? I mean, I'm not an expert. All I know is that Earth II seems to be pretty huge, with generally, a lot of rules. I mean, Earth II started in 2003.....

That's true. This Earth seems to be quite an active on. I hope this will continue.

Ah! He has 111 posts! 1/6 of the way there, Maryan!

Oh My God! I Have 1,112 Posts!

Oh My God! I Have 1,112 Posts!

Well, you had 1,111 posts for some time.....which is a sixth of the way there to 6,666....which is similar to 666?

Oh, and I noticed that I was in fact a third of the way to being evil, not a sixth. Silly me...:rolleyes:

That's true. This Earth seems to be quite an active on. I hope this will continue.

Same here ;)

The Union of People's and Worker's States is in collapse, right? That means that Russia could bring back order to the region, right? :)

The Union of People's and Worker's States is in collapse, right? That means that Russia could bring back order to the region, right? :)

Monroe Doctrine, son. Pass that one by the CSA.

And I doubt if Western Europe would allow that.

SIC: 2nd Federal Naval Squadron, Twenty Miles off of Panama, Former Union of People's and Worker's States

The 2nd Federal Naval Squadron, led by the Kirov Class Battlecruiser Admiral Ushikov, sat in wait off the coast of Panama. It had been about six months since the collapse of the UPWS, and the RSFSR wanted to establish order and possibly get a little something in return. The UPWS was a socialist nation like the RSFSR and the Federal Gov't believed that this could be used to acquire the new lands. The squadron moved in towards the coast of Panama and sat in wait for either an order to move out or a larger reinforcment group.

2nd Federal Naval Squadron:

1 Kirov Class Battlecruiser (Admiral Ushinikov, flagship, 3 Kamov Ka-50's aboard)
1 Admiral Kutzenov Class Carrier (Admiral Kutzenov, 12 Su-33's, 5 Su-25 UDG's, 22 Ka-27)
5 Kashin Class Destroyers
6 Neustrashimy Class Frigates
1 Supply Ship

Thats a big no no. You didn't rp the Mobilzation of the troops, nor the time they traveled to get there. Also where do these ships make berth? If it's in the Baltic, me and Futuris won't let you through because it's damn large fleet. The Black Sea? You'll have to deal with Jac on that one. The Artic Ocean? You'd get picked up by radar almost immediately, and Maryan, Futuris and I will be watching you very closely. Remember I still have on Submarine in the Svarlbard Islands that could easily break off from there and tail the fleet.

Just a heads up, I've been on Spring Break since Saturday, and I'm now at home, where I hopefully make some attempt to get online more often than what I have been doing. Family is very important ^_^

But anyway, I will not be on as often this week - probably until this Saturday or Sunday - so don't think that I've left.

Thats a big no no. You didn't rp the Mobilzation of the troops, nor the time they traveled to get there. Also where do these ships make berth? If it's in the Baltic, me and Futuris won't let you through because it's damn large fleet. The Black Sea? You'll have to deal with Jac on that one. The Artic Ocean? You'd get picked up by radar almost immediately, and Maryan, Futuris and I will be watching you very closely. Remember I still have on Submarine in the Svarlbard Islands that could easily break off from there and tail the fleet.

Sorry. I just figured that since most countries have their fleets sailing around the world that this was just one of them. It is out of the Arctic (Their Base). I would be happy to let you tail the fleet or whatever you feel like since there hasn't been much action going on. This isn't an invasion or even attack fleet. They are just out there checking out the situation should the RSFSR actually decide to take over Panama or other former UPWS.

Sorry. I just figured that since most countries have their fleets sailing around the world that this was just one of them. It is out of the Arctic (Their Base). I would be happy to let you tail the fleet or whatever you feel like since there hasn't been much action going on. This isn't an invasion or even attack fleet. They are just out there checking out the situation should the RSFSR actually decide to take over Panama or other former UPWS.

Direct intervention on your behalf would be impossible - you can always try the Cold War tactic of propping up governments in your image and having the dictator open your country to open Soviet arms deals before being ejected by the Americans (FARC is very popular in Colombia... :D)


Besides, you guys need to start challenging each other or this is going to turn in a massive Cold War with no apparent right side or wrong side.

Direct intervention on your behalf would be impossible - you can always try the Cold War tactic of propping up governments in your image and having the dictator open your country to open Soviet arms deals before being ejected by the Americans (FARC is very popular in Colombia... :D)


Besides, you guys need to start challenging each other or this is going to turn in a massive Cold War with no apparent right side or wrong side.

That was sort of the point...to brew up conflict. (And to control the Canal)

That was sort of the point...to brew up conflict. (And to control the Canal)

America would, the CSA I dunno, immediately use it's massive military power to force you out. But since the CSA isn't here, it's almost like beating the Pokemon Slowpoke, he'll find out eventually, but by then it's already over.

Yeah, I understand. The problem is that everyone aside from Africa and the CCPS is against me, what I stand for, and evey little thing I do. The EEU wants to kill me, all the other nations aside from the beforementioned friends of mine will do everything in their power to destroy me. Even the "neutral" Chinese are siding with the EEU. If the RSFSR wants to actually survive beyond tomorrow and not have to nuke itself to pieces to keep out invaders or get split up and make massive cessions to other nations, then it must show that they are not going to be pushed around by people who do not see the same way as us.

I'm being real busy with RL atm, and I just want to tell you I'm still here.

I've updated the first post in the ic-thread - list of syae-threads, and I've also updated the syae-map with the madagascar-claim and the southeast asia-claim.

I'm trying to keep up to date with the syae-threads, but don't expect me to be ic-active in the next couple of days or so....

The following claims have been delete per inactivity/user request.

Aiutar
Carliginia
Gauthic
Psychotica
No Taxes
Shazatbotom
The Nameless Country

Their lands are to be removed from the claims list, erased on the map and are considered open to trade.

Any ongoing RP's involving these countries may continue, arms deals, wars, etc. If a nation was involved in some sort of conflict assume that they had to pull out of the conflict due to internal unrest and continue accordingly, if you have any other questions feel free to contact me.

I don't know where the rest of Africa sits, but I'll essentially help or buy from either side-the SCE deals in freewheeling (which may come to bite it in the ass).

Is it okay if I RP Panamanian Communist Rebels from the Former Union of People's and Worker's States? The RSFSR wasn't planning on a takeover (yet) but instead commiting an act of neo-cold war-ism and setting up a puppert government friendly towards the Russias.

It's ok if you intervene in Panama, but not if you're trying to prop up the whole Union of People's Worker's State or whatever his country's name was.

BTW Candistan, I paused in my Red Storm Rising thread so you could reply to my kidnapping someone within your territory.

Invasion of the Benelux is a go!

It's ok if you intervene in Panama, but not if you're trying to prop up the whole Union of People's Worker's State or whatever his country's name was.

BTW Candistan, I paused in my Red Storm Rising thread so you could reply to my kidnapping someone within your territory.

No it's only Panama and Maybe Costa Rica, no the whole UPWS. And I did read the kidnapping, I just figured that since he isn't a gov't official or anything it didn't mean much. But if you want, I could have the Police look into it, eventually maybe even the Military.

I was kind of hoping you would try to intercept the helicopter that was flying through RSFSR airspace without clearance. :P

I was kind of hoping you would try to intercept the helicopter that was flying through RSFSR airspace without clearance. :P

Sounds fine to me :)

The following claims have been delete per inactivity/user request.

Aiutar
Carliginia
Gauthic
Psychotica
No Taxes
Shazatbotom
The Nameless Country

Their lands are to be removed from the claims list, erased on the map and are considered open to trade.

Any ongoing RP's involving these countries may continue, arms deals, wars, etc. If a nation was involved in some sort of conflict assume that they had to pull out of the conflict due to internal unrest and continue accordingly, if you have any other questions feel free to contact me.

I don't know about Carloginias....Animarnia said something about signing the F-22 deal like a day or two ago, just no through here....maybe we should warn him? And anyways, it seems kind of stupid not to be active when you control the United States, so he could be having a bad time? Well, I guess if he comes back one day and the USA is still open, he could always take it back again.... :p

I've just realized that nobody has commented on the way in which I weirdly do my letters....

Just a reminder.....I'm going away for Spring Break, and not sure about interweb connection...Maryan, Granate, Honako, and Balkan Union have still to make an RP'd arrival into Stockholm. Or, like WP, say that your guy/girl is there and ready to roll. I probably won't be able to start it though, after you've done that until Tuesday.

Just a reminder.....I'm going away for Spring Break, and not sure about interweb connection...Maryan, Granate, Honako, and Balkan Union have still to make an RP'd arrival into Stockholm. Or, like WP, say that your guy/girl is there and ready to roll. I probably won't be able to start it though, after you've done that until Tuesday.

I'll get to it, eventually.

I'll get to it, eventually.

What he said.

I don't know about Carloginias....Animarnia said something about signing the F-22 deal like a day or two ago, just no through here....maybe we should warn him? And anyways, it seems kind of stupid not to be active when you control the United States, so he could be having a bad time? Well, I guess if he comes back one day and the USA is still open, he could always take it back again.... :p

Yeah; I got a TG reply from Cal when I asked him if I could swap the F-23's for F-22's instead since WP wouldn't budge on it and he said ok so...where does our trade on that stand?

Your trade deal will still go through as planned. (Meaning whatever you agreed to.)

Your trade deal will still go through as planned. (Meaning whatever you agreed to.)

Just as long as I know; So can you NPC the US if any of us want more deals from the US? since the US is one of the largest trading nations on the planet...

I figure the first person to sign up after the map is updated will take the US, kind of hard to pass that up, so hopefully this won't be an issue.

Hey WP, I posted the Russian Response to the Bogey aircraft. Check it.

yeah; just hope whoever takes the US next will be more active;

And we'll happily trade with pretty much anyone but figure most resources will go into rebuilding Moscow for the next few IC years

yeah; just hope whoever takes the US next will be more active;

And we'll happily trade with pretty much anyone but figure most resources will go into rebuilding Moscow for the next few IC years

Thank you! I am just going to formally thank everyone who has helped rebuild Moscow and St. Petersburg right now. Your efforts will be repaid.

Thank you! I am just going to formally thank everyone who has helped rebuild Moscow and St. Petersburg right now. Your efforts will be repaid.

Germany is not one of them. We gave medical aid and stuff for the people, nothing else.

Party pooper...

Party pooper...

The German Confederation recognizes only the Romanov's as rulers of Russia.

Boo...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521337

Guess what that is.

This whole deal at Pinsk could develope into an interesting situation, eh WC? I posted again so you can RP the EEU's fighter response.

That was why I started it. I wanted to bring some activity into SYAE. And Candistan, two unsuspecting Mi-28's aren't really going to have much time to try and dodge a couple supersonic air-to-air missiles that are designed to take down highly maneuverable fighter aircraft.

That was why I started it. I wanted to bring some activity into SYAE. And Candistan, two unsuspecting Mi-28's aren't really going to have much time to try and dodge a couple supersonic air-to-air missiles that are designed to take down highly maneuverable fighter aircraft.

I figured that the MiG's wouldn't shoot right away for fear of starting a war, but they did lose considerable altitude and are out of a tactical position for the moment.

The mig's did fire, right now I'm operating as a government that assumes you are behind that protest I did so long ago that resulted in a massacre and is interpreting your actions as an attempt to bring Victor back to Pinsk to be set free again. So the mig's aren't waiting, they fired without really warning with little regard for their actions because, as I have said in my posts in various other topics, my SYAE nation views war as inevitable.

The mig's did fire, right now I'm operating as a government that assumes you are behind that protest I did so long ago that resulted in a massacre and is interpreting your actions as an attempt to bring Victor back to Pinsk to be set free again. So the mig's aren't waiting, they fired without really warning with little regard for their actions because, as I have said in my posts in various other topics, my SYAE nation views war as inevitable.

Oh I see. I'll post something now.

Bye....it's 10:30 at night, and I have to wake up at 3 am. BTW, to all nations concerning the Democratic Alliance, you can probably start debating over it once everyone is there (besides me) and aid is highly recommended but not required at this point to the EEU, in spite of recent events with the RSFSR. I'll make a post offering aid when I get back, I have to go now, sorry. :(

Well, I'm off! :p ;) :rolleyes: :) :D

Bye....it's 10:30 at night, and I have to wake up at 3 am. BTW, to all nations concerning the Democratic Alliance, you can probably start debating over it once everyone is there (besides me) and aid is highly recommended but not required at this point to the EEU, in spite of recent events with the RSFSR. I'll make a post offering aid when I get back, I have to go now, sorry. :(

Well, I'm off! :p ;) :rolleyes: :) :D

Have much fun :) ^_^ We'll have contol of Sundan by the time you get back.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521365
It begins

Bye....it's 10:30 at night, and I have to wake up at 3 am. BTW, to all nations concerning the Democratic Alliance, you can probably start debating over it once everyone is there (besides me) and aid is highly recommended but not required at this point to the EEU, in spite of recent events with the RSFSR. I'll make a post offering aid when I get back, I have to go now, sorry. :(

Well, I'm off! :p ;) :rolleyes: :) :D

To all you Democratic Alliance folks, I just want to clarify a few things.

#1) The EEU kidnapped someone in my country who they believed to be a terrorist. A legitimate action, yes, until they blame Russia for helping him.

#2) An EEU helicopter tresspassed on RSFSR airspace to pick them up. When asked to land to clear their story, eight EEU MiG's fly into MY country and shoot down MY helicopter in MY territory. If anybody started this war if it does come to that, it is HE.

#3) My response is legitimate and any declaration of war against me for defending my country will be considered an act of hate and arrogance towards Russia

Have a nice day! :)





Okay, I had to get that out. I was just mad that everyone hates my country and will probably attack from all sides if they had the chance.

The following claims have been delete per inactivity/user request.

Aiutar
Carliginia
Gauthic
Psychotica
No Taxes
Shazatbotom
The Nameless Country

Their lands are to be removed from the claims list, erased on the map and are considered open to trade.
Map updated accordingly.

Map updated accordingly.

I've received word from India that he's no longer participating in this RP:

OOC: Sorry, I have started my own rp, school work is piling up, and my social life is becoming more active for the next week or so if you know what I mean. :D So please just continue this without me and void my claims.

By the way my army is about 2 million strong, well trained, and armed well enough to fight for a while.

BTW, people, I'll be out from midnight tonight to noon Sunday-just to keep ya'll informed.

Alright, I'm really busy right now with school work and am heading home this weekend to work. Candistan, I will try to post a reply in our little possible future war thread, Daehanjeiguk, I will try to get a reply posted in our little diplomacy thread.

Alright, I'm really busy right now with school work and am heading home this weekend to work. Candistan, I will try to post a reply in our little possible future war thread, Daehanjeiguk, I will try to get a reply posted in our little diplomacy thread.

take your time - I'm on Spring Break until this Monday...

To reflect realism to some degree, I'm going to update the stats of my country every 10 SYAE years, except on years when there is a change of power (a new Emperor). Since it is the year 6 (5 years since the ascension of the Gwangmu Emperor), in 5 weeks, I will update my economy and population, to reflect real world growth. Until I can accurately determine the economic growth of my country in SYAE, I will be using reflective GDP increase rates from RL (which I have calculated to be 8.531%, using the bulk rates for all of my constituent countries) until then. Just so there is no confusion, I will demonstrate how my system will work, using generic stats:

Year 1:
Population - 1,000,000
Economy - $10,000,000,000
per capita - $10,000

Growth:

Population - .5%
Economy - 10%

Year 11:
Population - 1,005,000
Economy - $11,000,000,000
per capita - $10,945

Does everyone understand this? Agree to this? Like this? Want this?

Opinions please!

And once I am able to reflect economic changes in my country, I will continue to use RL growth rates. When I am able to approximate my country's economic stats, I will use those rates - and also make certain that those rates are well known so people don't accuse me of wanking my stats for pleasure.

Looks good to me. I was wondering what will I do in the case of The Benelux and Alsace and Lorraine? They have fallen into Anarchy and I am using force to bring order back into them. I was wondering how much of an effect would there be and would I have to take a hit in my economic stuff?

@Daehanjeiguk:

From what I make of that example, does it mean you're increasing your GDP by 8.5% every ten years?

Personally I think it's a good idea, but I'm more concerned about everyone having to constantly update their stats too (so as to be fair). Let's see what everyone thinks about doing this.

On a more general point, I think for growth rates it'll be more realistic if we take the world average and adjust according to our nation's circumstances, like new mines opening up and how low the GDP per captia is to start off with. Like Azerbaijan going through a 30sth% growth rate because it's exporting oil.



@Granate: I think all you'll need is to pay for the troops. Since the Benelux is pretty well off, Germany shouldn't need to pour in a bunch of aid, and so probably won't get hits economically.

Can I take the US?

If not, then I will take France and Italy...

I would take the US, France is in a pretty bad spot right now.

I would take the US, France is in a pretty bad spot right now.

Cause I am invading Alsace and Lorraine, due to Anarchists. Most of France is basically in a Civil War.

The Armenian Army has about the same amount of tanks as there are Asians in Africa. No offense, Asians.

Turkey's got a score to settle with Armenia :)

And also, I'm hesitant about seeing Maldorians with the US...

We really need someone in the Americas... the map looks like 1492 never happened or sth. :p

I just had an evil vision of a Greater American Empire. Canada, Mexico, USA.

If that's not acceptable, can I just take the USA?

I just had an evil vision of a Greater American Empire. Canada, Mexico, USA.

If that's not acceptable, can I just take the USA?

*supports this* Whyatica will bring good things indeed. but I can't aprove ya cos I ain't the mod but I think this is a good idea for the record.

I would like to claim: in South America
Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Brazil.
To be known as the IndioRazaRepublica(IRR)

Hello, I would like to join this RP, if accepted I claim Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay. The nation's name would be "Republicas Unidas del Sur"

I just had an evil vision of a Greater American Empire. Canada, Mexico, USA.

If that's not acceptable, can I just take the USA?

Too large. America and Canada is enough.

I would like to claim: in South America
Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Brazil.
To be known as the IndioRazaRepublica(IRR)

Hello, I would like to join this RP, if accepted I claim Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay. The nation's name would be "Republicas Unidas del Sur"

These two are ok. Atleast in my opinion.

Hello, I would like to join this RP, if accepted I claim Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay. The nation's name would be "Republicas Unidas del Sur"

I'd give it to him.

How many countries can we claim in the beginning?

Too large. America and Canada is enough.
America and Canadia is fine by me. Call it 'The Greater United States' or something like that.

How many countries can we claim in the beginning?

One large one or two/three smaller ones. Really it's up to WP.

Can I take the US?

If not, then I will take France and Italy...

I just had an evil vision of a Greater American Empire. Canada, Mexico, USA.

If that's not acceptable, can I just take the USA?

I already claimed the US.

I already claimed the US.

I think Whyatica would be better suited with the US. I personally believe his RPing is a step up from your's.

Id like to take all of East Africa that isnt already claimed, is that acceptable?

Thats Djibouti, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia and Eritrea according to the map, under the name the "The East African Federation"

I think Whyatica would be better suited with the US. I personally believe his RPing is a step up from your's.

I agree with this statement. We need someone who will RP America well and often. We don't want someone to end rping like our last America.

Id like to take all of East Africa that isnt already claimed, is that acceptable?

Thats Djibouti, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia and Eritrea according to the map, under the name the "The East African Federation"

Knock off Kenya and your in business

I already claimed the US.

I agree with Jared here

These two are ok. Atleast in my opinion.
Thank you. Am I in? Or is there other people who need to verify me?

I think Whyatica would be better suited with the US. I personally believe his RPing is a step up from your's.

My RPing suckz...*Cries*


Fine....I will take *in order*

1) Mexico
2) Guatemala
3) Belize
4) Honduras
5) Nicaragua


Name: The Central American Alliance

*If I can only get 3 then get 1-3. If I can only get 4 then get 1-4. Etc.*

Thank you. Am I in? Or is there other people who need to verify me?

West Pacific does, but I see no reason why you wouldn't be accepted.

Id like to take all of East Africa that isnt already claimed, is that acceptable?

Thats Djibouti, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia and Eritrea according to the map, under the name the "The East African Federation"

We just "took" Sudan so I say let him have Kenya instead

West Pacific does, but I see no reason why you wouldn't be accepted.

How about me?

I would like to claim Papua New Guinea. Don't be fooled, I know how to RP. You can test me.

The Five are fine. They are among some of the poorest countries in Central America so... have fun RPing a Poverty Stricken Land!

I would like to claim Papua New Guinea. Don't be fooled, I know how to RP. You can test me.

Whatever. Have fun RPing a land filled with hostile natives!

The Five are fine. They are among some of the poorest countries in Central America so... have fun RPing a Poverty Stricken Land!

Well he can always pull himself out of the gutter the hard way :) like we did

Also: would be be ok to nominate Granate as a kind of Vice mod? since I think we kinda need one..

The Five are fine. They are among some of the poorest countries in Central America so... have fun RPing a Poverty Stricken Land!

Alright, thanks...

Well he can always pull himself out of the gutter the hard way :) like we did

Also: would be be ok to nominate Granate as a kind of Vice mod? since I think we kinda need one..

Second'd...

Well he can always pull himself out of the gutter the hard way :) like we did

Also: would be be ok to nominate Granate as a kind of Vice mod? since I think we kinda need one..

If you want me too. Seeing as I am almost always lurking on the International Incidents Area.

I'm just gonna say this right now. France and the Benelux are not up for claims. The Benelux is being invaded by me and so teh Alsace and Lorraine regions of France. France is also in a civil due to the fall of it's last government.

We just "took" Sudan so I say let him have Kenya instead

Oh, there goes my whole plan, sudan was the kingpin....
Bah, il find a new plan

Oh, there goes my whole plan, sudan was the kingpin....
Bah, il find a new plan

Whatever you want buddy. We're are here to make this as enjoyable as possible. Well I am atleast. I dunno about that Russia dude...

Whatever you want buddy. We're are here to make this as enjoyable as possible. Well I am atleast. I dunno about that Russia dude...

Quote for Truth! LOL

Right, Replace Sudan with Yemen and call it the Arabian Sea Federation

So thats:
Ethiopia
Eritrea
Yemen
Somalia
Djibouti
Kenya

Right, Replace Sudan with Yemen and call it the Arabian Sea Federation

So thats:
Ethiopia
Eritrea
Yemen
Somalia
Djibouti
Kenya

I say that looks mighty fine. Remember Ethiopia has some extreme poverty, but I guess some Oil Revenues will make up for that.

Whatever you want buddy. We're are here to make this as enjoyable as possible. Well I am atleast. I dunno about that Russia dude...

And what is this supposed to mean?

And what is this supposed to mean?

It's for me to know and you to find out.

Oh and here's the current IC-Thread
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518958
It also has a handy list of SYAE Threads.

Are we allowed to tweak history so these nations make sense and arent so junky, which would prevent the RP becoming one that all gets rather quiet when whoever has the US turns up.

Are we allowed to tweak history so these nations make sense and arent so junky, which would prevent the RP becoming one that all gets rather quiet when whoever has the US turns up.

Your allowed to tweak it in almost anyway you want. Same with your economy, you would probably be allowed to increase it's GDP by 25% of you felt like it. But your military is as it is today. No using Leopard 2s or something like that.

okay *starts rearming program, so i dont have to rely on militia running around*

okay *starts rearming program, so i dont have to rely on militia running around*

WP said African Nations can use any Soviet Era stuff I think except Missile Subs?

WP said African Nations can use any Soviet Era stuff I think except Missile Subs?

And other things, like the Big Ships and some of the MiGs.

And other things, like the Big Ships and some of the MiGs.

and AK-47's and Kamucha Rockets...

and AK-47's and Kamucha Rockets...

Ak-47s? What are you smoking? Crack?

AK-47s are among the most highly produced weapons in the world. Alot of nations produce local Variants that basically the same as an AK-47.

They are allowed to have Katyusha rockets as well.

Ak-47s? What are you smoking? Crack?

AK-47s are among the most highly produced weapons in the world. Alot of nations produce local Variants that basically the same as an AK-47.

Yes, I do smoke crack...;) .....My point proven, stupid. I am saying that they have gotten them from Soviet Union...

And other things, like the Big Ships and some of the MiGs.

Aye; no carriers and no Mig 38's or anything past the Su-27 I think IIRC? and nothing past the T-90. but everything else is fine

Your allowed to tweak it in almost anyway you want. Same with your economy, you would probably be allowed to increase it's GDP by 25% of you felt like it. But your military is as it is today. No using Leopard 2s or something like that.
I'm fine with everything, but I have my doubts about the military thing. While the militaries of Argentina and Chile are pretty much to NATO standard, and while they don't share the same equipment, it is easily compatible. The doubt I have here is about Uruguay and Paraguay, who use equipment that is not only out of date when compared to Argentina and Chile (Chaffe and Bulldog tanks), but that is also non-NATO (T-55 tanks). I would just like to know that seeing as how these militaries are small, I can just replace their equipment.

EDIT: What about military programs? I plan to have a more agressive regime, and they would've not abandoned the nuclear or nuclear-naval-power programs Argentina had, for example.

I'm fine with everything, but I have my doubts about the military thing. While the militaries of Argentina and Chile are pretty much to NATO standard, and while they don't share the same equipment, it is easily compatible. The doubt I have here is about Uruguay and Paraguay, who use equipment that is not only out of date when compared to Argentina and Chile (Chaffe and Bulldog tanks), but that is also non-NATO (T-55 tanks). I would just like to know that seeing as how these militaries are small, I can just replace their equipment.

From what I gather; the miltary Tech is "pooled" and you can use however much you can afford in number and side line what you don't want..so if you wanted to use exclusively nato I think thats fine as long as you only use whats avalable to Agentina and Chillie (in Type not number)

Plus you can always buy stuff from other nations when you got a defence budget sorted and a fact book up

What about military programs? I plan to have a more agressive regime, and they would've not abandoned the nuclear or nuclear-naval-power programs Argentina had, for example.

That I don't know. WP seems to be sparadicoally strinct on some things and not so much on others' where it comes to programs that never got finished or were abandoned its more likely you'll have to RP there re-development

Can I put a claim on Italy and Tunisia?

Can I put a claim on Italy and Tunisia?

Go for it.

Does this mean of Country #1 has 10,000 tanks and Country #2 has 5,000 then your empire will have 15,000 tanks?

Does this mean of Country #1 has 10,000 tanks and Country #2 has 5,000 then your empire will have 15,000 tanks?

What?

Can I put a claim on Italy and Tunisia?

Good to have you Mac!

Can I put a claim on Italy and Tunisia?

Yay! We have one of the Great Players on NS on board! :fluffle:

What?

Pretend I have 2 countries: Country #1 and #2. If country #1 has 10,000 and #2 has 5,000 does this mean my grand army has 15,000 tanks?

Does this mean of Country #1 has 10,000 tanks and Country #2 has 5,000 then your empire will have 15,000 tanks?
Yes, the way I understand it, the militaries add up, although you can make small changes.

Yes, the way I understand it, the militaries add up, although you can make small changes.

Ok thanks...That is a cool idea...Although some Earth things don't implent this idea...

Yes, the way I understand it, the militaries add up, although you can make small changes.
Pretty Much.

Yes, the way I understand it, the militaries add up, although you can make small changes.

From what I understand; you have control over your military totally. you are only limited by TYPE not number. (the sole exception being africa since..theres nothing about african militarys around other than saying they HAVE one)

For example
If you are...Russsia; you can't have F-15's but you can have Migs Sukois etc. you can have as many as you like as long as its reasonably in your defence budget. Militarys range from 0.1-3% of your added populations. then dvide that figure by 4 to get your actual combat troops. this fingure will then be split into the various branches.

if I'm wrong then someone with more authority correct me?

From what I understand; you have control over your military totally. you are only limited by TYPE not number. (the sole exception being africa since..theres nothing about african militarys around other than saying they HAVE one)

For example
If you are...Russsia; you can't have F-15's but you can have Migs Sukois etc. you can have as many as you like as long as its reasonably in your defence budget. Militarys range from 0.1-3% of your added populations. then dvide that figure by 4 to get your actual combat troops. this fingure will then be split into the various branches.

if I'm wrong then someone with more authority correct me?

One minor revision. You can have as many troops in your military as you want, but if you go over 3% your economy will start to suffer.

Hmmm, I use a 1:7 Combat:Support troops personel Ratio for my Army. I might change it if 1:4 is the rule.

Hmmm, I use a 1:7 Combat:Support troops personel Ratio for my Army. I might change it if 1:4 is the rule.

There is no rule. It's just a base number you can have less or more. You can have as large, or small, of a Combat:Support Ratio as you want. My German Army operates under the 1:5 Scale, 1:7 for my Panzers and Special Forces..

Hmmm, I use a 1:7 Combat:Support troops personel Ratio for my Army. I might change it if 1:4 is the rule.

its personel preferance; we use 1:6 depends really on how supported you want your armed forces. quality and logical support or high quantatiy of combat grunts

Pretty Much.

Ok, today is my birthday, so I am not going to be on for a while. One of the few times I won't be lurking on II Forums. So everyone play nice while I am gone.

Pretty Much.

Ok, today is my birthday, so I am not going to be on for a while. One of the few times I won't be lurking on II Forums. So everyone play nice while I am gone.

HAPPY B-DAY!!!!!:fluffle:

Pretty Much.

Ok, today is my birthday, so I am not going to be on for a while. One of the few times I won't be lurking on II Forums. So everyone play nice while I am gone.

Congratulations! Many more years and have fun!

Happy B-Day!

Hmmm, I use a 1:7 Combat:Support troops personel Ratio for my Army. I might change it if 1:4 is the rule.


There is no rule. It's just a base number you can have less or more. You can have as large, or small, of a Combat:Support Ratio as you want. My German Army operates under the 1:5 Scale, 1:7 for my Panzers and Special Forces.

Those are both really low, especially for the Germany army, which is a high-tech modern force. Infantry would probably be 1:6 and armoured from 1:8 to 1:12.

I'm fine if we all agree on 1:7 or 1:6 or w/e

Factbook up: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521752

And I made a map with my claim: http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o205/Franarama/SYAERUdS.png

Im sorry to keep doing this to you guys, very very sorry, and this will be my final choice, but can you scrub my previous claims and just dump me in control of Israel, Lebanon and perhaps Cyprus? under the name of the "Pheonician League", this will allow me to unlock the full potential of my RPing, which is far too well suited to western style tactics to handle light militia fighting well.

Im sorry to keep doing this to you guys, very very sorry, and this will be my final choice, but can you scrub my previous claims and just dump me in control of Israel, Lebanon and perhaps Cyprus? under the name of the "Pheonician League", this will allow me to unlock the full potential of my RPing, which is far too well suited to western style tactics to handle light militia fighting well.

Fine. last post for a while.

Jesus, I thought I was going to be gone today, but you guys keep ending up needing me. Slow down.

Jesus, I thought I was going to be gone today, but you guys keep ending up needing me. Slow down.

Happy Birthday man :)

Anyone object to Balkan intervention in Armenia to stop rioting against ethnic Turks in the nation/riots in Turkey by Armenians?

is all land taken? is there anywhere else open??

Yup; plenty of land still avalable. the map needs updating but with the exception of Animarnia (with Sudan currently being...occupied by me), the SCE and South Africa. most of africa is open, I think theres still some of europe avalable and parts of south america and mexico..I think. the map needs updating for sure but theres still plenty of land to claim.

Yup; plenty of land still avalable. the map needs updating but with the exception of Animarnia (with Sudan currently being...occupied by me), the SCE and South Africa. most of africa is open, I think theres still some of europe avalable and parts of south america and mexico..I think. the map needs updating for sure but theres still plenty of land to claim.

Nope, Mexico is part of my Central American Alliance...

ok. can i get Australia, New Zealand, New Caledonia, and Papau New Guinea.

can i change the terrain and ecology? does alot of Australia have to be desert and stuff? or can i change it.

ok. can i get Australia, New Zealand, New Caledonia, and Papau New Guinea.

can i change the terrain and ecology? does alot of Australia have to be desert and stuff? or can i change it.

Same terrain + ecology.

I actually think I won't be joining. I'd love to, but thinking ahead I probably won't be around for the next two years.

I actually think I won't be joining. I'd love to, but thinking ahead I probably won't be around for the next two years.

Anything you can go into? it'll be hard to picture this place (II in general) without you around.

Kiwi: D: stop being in Armenia now plz

Anything you can go into? it'll be hard to picture this place (II in general) without you around.

After basic training I will probably buy a laptop. But until I get an idea of what I will be able to do during training, I rather not get into anything.

Just to inform you guys, I'll be away from home as of tomorrow the 25th until the 31st, and will be unable to visit the forums. Nevertheless, upon my return, I will start to get things moving with South Africa.

Same terrain + ecology.

alright. can you put my nation down as the Dominion of Oceania please?

ok. can i get Australia, New Zealand, New Caledonia, and Papau New Guinea.

can i change the terrain and ecology? does alot of Australia have to be desert and stuff? or can i change it.

Well, here's what I can say - if you want a radiological wasteland, I can make the change for you.

Otherwise, it's all real-life - except for history and maybe a minor econ/demographic wanking (minor = a reasonable number). That means even if your African paradise was never conquered by Europeans, that doesn't mean you get the F-190483s and the M104873 tanks to complement your "historical" advances, because as unreal as it is, that just introduces some wanking that less competent people can't acquire. Of course, nothing prevents you from developing new stuff (like Animaria's development on a new tank design that introduces some coil technology? I think? I don't know, and I'm paying for a lot of it too :D... maybe I should check out what investments I'm currently making...).

And welcome to all new people! Take a look at the history thread - I'm hoping to make it comprehensive as soon as new people have the opportunity to introduce the "how my country was made" story.

alright. can you put my nation down as the Ebedron Republic please?

Wait for WP...

Well, here's what I can say - if you want a radiological wasteland, I can make the change for you.

Otherwise, it's all real-life - except for history and maybe a minor econ/demographic wanking (minor = a reasonable number). That means even if your African paradise was never conquered by Europeans, that doesn't mean you get the F-190483s and the M104873 tanks to complement your "historical" advances, because as unreal as it is, that just introduces some wanking that less competent people can't acquire. Of course, nothing prevents you from developing new stuff (like Animaria's development on a new tank design that introduces some coil technology? I think? I don't know, and I'm paying for a lot of it too :D... maybe I should check out what investments I'm currently making...).

And welcome to all new people! Take a look at the history thread - I'm hoping to make it comprehensive as soon as new people have the opportunity to introduce the "how my country was made" story.

ETC Actually with some new advances in Coolants; Shells and "air Compresion and Injection to get around 2,900m/s which works out around 40MJ though its gonna have some serious barrel wear of course but will still leave any other current tank a smoking wreak :) Coil will be the next project after that; but Coil guns are large bulky and guzzel energy..I prefer to keep them for Arty but its deffinetly somthing we will be looking into.

I'm going to put up a new article in the General IC thread today or tomorow of the first "prototypes". but really I need to wait for 2012 and "silk steel alloys" to start making the armour.

According to my calendar - assuming that the Gwangmu Emperor ascended the throne on January 2007, it is May 2012, or shortly becoming, depending on where you are in the world...

Kiwi: D: stop being in Armenia now plz

.....I'm waiting for you to cross the borders you know :)

.....I'm waiting for you to cross the borders you know :)

ehh? I thought you were in Georgia? And now you in both? And you're waiting there? Like the countries gave your armed forces a license to lounge in their countries? where do I sign up for this?

.....I'm waiting for you to cross the borders you know :)

:P Most likely not gonna happen.

Unless the Armenian president refuses my little deal. I doubt he'd do that though.

:P Most likely not gonna happen.

Unless the Armenian president refuses my little deal. I doubt he'd do that though.

::: Am I speaking with the Armenian President?

::: Am I speaking with the Armenian President?

Hmm?

I called a conference with the Armenian president. Look in the IC thread for my latest post.

Hmm?

I called a conference with the Armenian president. Look in the IC thread for my latest post.

And the Armenian President is whom?

And the Armenian President is whom?

I'm not sure to be precise, but in reality his name is Robert Kocharian.

I'm not sure to be precise, but in reality his name is Robert Kocharian.

when does he log on?

when does he log on?

When he's at the Kremlin chillaxin' with P-tin.

When he's at the Kremlin chillaxin' with P-tin.

did the tin man get a new ghetto name?

ehh? I thought you were in Georgia? And now you in both? And you're waiting there? Like the countries gave your armed forces a license to lounge in their countries? where do I sign up for this?

No I'm slightly above Armenia, but I stopped RPing the search and rescue operations so that when Jarcedonia comes over my troops would be just about to leave, and we'll finally get a little regional war going.

Cause in the original post he said he wanted to invade the Caucasian countries, kill the Chechens for Candistan, and split the land between them.



:P Most likely not gonna happen.

Unless the Armenian president refuses my little deal. I doubt he'd do that though.

Armenia isn't claimed, so I doubt anyone gonna turn up to your meeting....

According to my calendar - assuming that the Gwangmu Emperor ascended the throne on January 2007, it is May 2012, or shortly becoming, depending on where you are in the world...

No shit! That means the 21st. Century Royal Navy is ready for action! :cool: Britannia wil rule the waves!

Armenia isn't claimed, so I doubt anyone gonna turn up to your meeting....

I was hoping that someone would RP Armenia for me. Would seem a little unfair if I RP'd the president, because of course he'd do what I want him to do.

I was hoping that someone would RP Armenia for me. Would seem a little unfair if I RP'd the president, because of course he'd do what I want him to do.
I am willing to RP Armenia as long as this particular conference/invasion/whatever goes on.

I just got back-but I noticed that Lachenburg is going to be gone until the 31st-in which case, I'll hold off the African conference until he gets back.

ETC Actually with some new advances in Coolants; Shells and "air Compresion and Injection to get around 2,900m/s

Well, I think that you should be worried about what the pressure that much propellant will make on the barrel, and the effects thereof. APFSDS penetration actually begins to decrease at about 2,000m/sec.

which works out around 40MJ

What's the weight of the round? No matter how man advances in shell technology, injection and coolants, you will not get that much energy out of the gun. The ETC XM291 was designed to have ~18MJ of energy at the muzzle (for penetrator + sabot), and by the late 90s they had come close to their goal, IIRC. In 2004 the XM291 was tested successfully. In regards to their bulk, look below.

Coil will be the next project after that; but Coil guns are large bulky and guzzel energy..

Yes, look how bulky ETC is:

Nevermind, I forgot my server isn't working.

Alright, I'm back for the weekend. First off, there's been a lot of new people to sign up, which is awesome, but it makes my job very difficult. Second, who decided mob mentality needed to be implemented? Maldorians claimed America, he get's first pick. Maldorians, the list below are the claims as they stand now (meaning all the claims from the past eight pages or so with changes) if you want America it is yours. The other members had no right or reason to try and bully you into rejecting your claim. Other members, you had no right or reason to try and bully Maldorians into accepting a different claim, never do it again. Granate, you are not a mod, if you want to be fine, but learn how to be a little, what's the word, nicer in your posts.

Here are the new claims as I have them.

Maldorians: Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, and Nicaragua.

Approved

Whyatica: America, Canada, Mexico

If you want America that is it, I’m not giving the world’s only superpower even more power.

Skibereen: Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Brazil.

Approved

Franberry: Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay

Approved

Spizania: Israel, Lebanon and perhaps Cyprus

Approved

Southeast Trading Co: Papua New Guinea

Approved

Ebedron: Australia, New Zealand and New Caledonia

Approved

Yes! He's Back!!!11!1

Fine, I'll take America and then invade Canada >>

I was just stepping into you shoes WP, sorry if I stepped on some people's toes. People who know me in real life know me as a apathetic person. But I'll try to be nicer if you'll let me be a mod. As long as I can Approve Claims when you're not here and stuff.

Thanks!

Granate, I'm not offended, but I worry new people might because you are very blunt. Yes you can approve claims, when you do approve a claim TG me the claims, if that doesn't work I can give you my email address. Maldorians, are you happy with your claim now or do you want America? Whyatica, if Maldorians doesn't take America I assume you still want it?

O thanks a lot West Pacific...I was a bit startled when Granate refused my claim...but that is all right...I am satisfied with my Central America area...I have a factbook up and running...Thanks though!

Then I shall take America and invade Canada to make my Greater Empire.

Then I shall take America and invade Canada to make my Greater Empire.

*Cough* Your Welcome *Cough* *Chokes*

Well, I think that you should be worried about what the pressure that much propellant will make on the barrel, and the effects thereof. APFSDS penetration actually begins to decrease at about 2,000m/sec.



What's the weight of the round? No matter how man advances in shell technology, injection and coolants, you will not get that much energy out of the gun. The ETC XM291 was designed to have ~18MJ of energy at the muzzle (for penetrator + sabot), and by the late 90s they had come close to their goal, IIRC. In 2004 the XM291 was tested successfully. In regards to their bulk, look below.

Yes, look how bulky ETC is:

Nevermind, I forgot my server isn't working.

I admit Tank design isn't my speciality *nods* and by all respects I am an Amatuer. but the Cannon I'm trying to design uses ETC for a primary; with the shells Ram jet assisted for extra muzzel velocity. the barrel uses a "compresion injector" to push already compressed air into the Ramjet where its compressed further to allow more air through in a shot space of time. Pressure and cracks are handled by lining the Barrel with Heat Reative metal that gets harder when exposed to levels of heat; the actual barrel will be made from Silk Steel (Artifically engineered spider Silk combined with Nanotubus) and Chrome. still the gun will only get maybe 500 shots out of it before the barrel needs replacing.

I was hoping to get somewhere betweeen 2600-2900 meters per second Muzzle Velocity. which acording to Excel gives me around 35-40 Megajouls of KE. though honestly any imput would help greatly.


As for the Calender: Woot.

I admit Tank design isn't my speciality *nods* and by all respects I am an Amatuer. but the Cannon I'm trying to design uses ETC for a primary; with the shells Ram jet assisted for extra muzzel velocity. the barrel uses a "compresion injector" to push already compressed air into the Ramjet where its compressed further to allow more air through in a shot space of time. Pressure and cracks are handled by lining the Barrel with Heat Reative metal that gets harder when exposed to levels of heat; the actual barrel will be made from Silk Steel (Artifically engineered spider Silk combined with Nanotubus) and Chrome. still the gun will only get maybe 500 shots out of it before the barrel needs replacing.

I was hoping to get somewhere betweeen 2600-2900 meters per second Muzzle Velocity. which acording to Excel gives me around 35-40 Megajouls of KE. though honestly any imput would help greatly.


As for the Calender: Woot.

How do you put a ramjet on a tank shell? wouldn't you be better off sticking to ATGM's which usually go faster than a tank shell anyway?

Alright, I'm back for the weekend. First off, there's been a lot of new people to sign up, which is awesome, but it makes my job very difficult. Second, who decided mob mentality needed to be implemented? Maldorians claimed America, he get's first pick. Maldorians, the list below are the claims as they stand now (meaning all the claims from the past eight pages or so with changes) if you want America it is yours. The other members had no right or reason to try and bully you into rejecting your claim. Other members, you had no right or reason to try and bully Maldorians into accepting a different claim, never do it again. Granate, you are not a mod, if you want to be fine, but learn how to be a little, what's the word, nicer in your posts.

Here are the new claims as I have them.

Maldorians: Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, and Nicaragua.

Approved

Whyatica: America, Canada, Mexico

If you want America that is it, I’m not giving the world’s only superpower even more power.

Skibereen: Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Brazil.

Approved

Franberry: Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay

Approved

Spizania: Israel, Lebanon and perhaps Cyprus

Approved

Southeast Trading Co: Papua New Guinea

Approved

Ebedron: Australia, New Zealand and New Caledonia

Approved

WP: No one tried to "bully" him out of anything; I personally know Whyatica is a great RPer and would do the US justice; I don't know the Maldorians and after Cal went awol I think it would be good to have an active US thats all; I (not anyone else to my knowledge) tried to drive him off..

as for Granate being a vice mod; that was my idea; vice since he would still answer to you but would still be able to do the most basic of things like aproving claims cos he's on more than you and would leave you freer to do other things like RP. if your offended or thing we tried to superceede your authority then my appologies.

When theres no one in a place of power the People try to work things out themselves. Thus Mob mentalty occurs.

On the Tank: Thats why I am only making the Leopard 3 bigger, faster, and with more a bigger gun. All of them workable.

How do you put a ramjet on a tank shell? wouldn't you be better off sticking to ATGM's which usually go faster than a tank shell anyway?

I'll dig up a referance...they've done it in Switzerland for initial tests acording to the draft room. it increaes penitration over the same range. plus AGTMS cost 20,000$ a pop, a Sabot costs $1000 as far as I know.

its a way of increasing penitration without the fancy electronics; point, shoot, it dies basically.

When theres no one in a place of power the People try to work things out themselves. Thus Mob mentalty occurs.

On the Tank: Thats why I am only making the Leopard 3 bigger, faster, and with more a bigger gun. All of them workable.

So is this really; hopefully Mac can give me some decent values as one of the best Tank designers on NS

So is this really; hopefully Mac can give me some decent values as one of the best Tank designers on NS

I may ask him for some opinions on the Leopard 3.

Alright, I'm back for the weekend. First off, there's been a lot of new people to sign up, which is awesome, but it makes my job very difficult. Second, who decided mob mentality needed to be implemented? Maldorians claimed America, he get's first pick. Maldorians, the list below are the claims as they stand now (meaning all the claims from the past eight pages or so with changes) if you want America it is yours. The other members had no right or reason to try and bully you into rejecting your claim. Other members, you had no right or reason to try and bully Maldorians into accepting a different claim, never do it again. Granate, you are not a mod, if you want to be fine, but learn how to be a little, what's the word, nicer in your posts.

Here are the new claims as I have them.

Maldorians: Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, and Nicaragua.

Approved

Whyatica: America, Canada, Mexico

If you want America that is it, I’m not giving the world’s only superpower even more power.

Skibereen: Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Brazil.

Approved

Franberry: Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay

Approved

Spizania: Israel, Lebanon and perhaps Cyprus

Approved

Southeast Trading Co: Papua New Guinea

Approved

Ebedron: Australia, New Zealand and New Caledonia

Approved

On this note, I'd like to say that more than half of the people on this list were actually posting IC statements before they were approved - not that I don't like enthusiasm, but people need to lose a little hubris oocly.


And invading Canada will have repurcussions...

Formal Name: The Allied States of Southeast Asia
Conventional Form: Southeast Asia

Claims: Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam
Capital: Bangkok

Provincial Capitals
Burma: Naypyidaw
Cambodia: Phnom Penh
Laos: Vientiane
Malaysia: Kuala Lumpur
Vietnam: Hanoi

Population: 248,203,595

Languages: Malay (11%), Lao (2%), Khmer (6%), Burmese (20%), Vietnamese (38%), Thai (33%)

Literacy: 87.1%

Government Type: Socialist Republic

GDP: $1.25857 trillion USD

GDP per capita: $5,073.33 USD

Currency: Dong

Army: 21,341,813

Tax Rate
83%

I reserve every right to make you tax your subjects less and to stop your conscription of 10% of your population into your armed services, wondering all the same just exactly what kind of demographic could support such a large armed force and support a trillion USD economy. Obviously, your army or your economy is farce - maybe both...

Just a request, after those caustic remarks... please reduce your army numbers. I'd suggest reducing the tax too, but as long as you don't make slaves out of your people; besides, that makes my 25% look generous compared to everyone else.

Ok thanks...That is a cool idea...Although some Earth things don't implent this idea...

umm... I'd say more the ideal of "if you can afford it" than anything else. You just might say that you have 3% of your population conscripted, but I won't believe if your economy can't support it.

PLease check your name:

Central American Alliance [中美狀態聯合 (중미상태련합)]
Dominion of Oceania [太平洋聯合 (태평양련합)]
IndioRazaRepublica [巴西共和國 (파서공화국)]
Republicas Unidas del Sur [南美聯合共和國 (남미련합공화국)]
Pheonician League [腓尼基亞狀態 (페니키아상태)]
The Greater United States [大美聯合王國 (중미련합왕국)]

Maybe he has a genetically engineered population of slaves that pays 100% tax :p

Seriously though, you can't ever push tax rates up to 83% without your government collapsing. Especially if you spend it all on an Army, which is probably what you are doing considering its size; 50% tax is usually only justified in RL by massive government benefits.

It is possible to get such a big army (10% of population), but there would be simply NO way to pay for it, over anything longer than a few years. It is only feasible for the wealthier nations during times of war, when the population cooperate to support the war effort.

Um, wheres futuris been? I've been waiting for a reply on the Invasion of Svalbard thread.

Seriously though, you can't ever push tax rates up to 83% without your government collapsing. Especially if you spend it all on an Army, which is probably what you are doing considering its size; 50% tax is usually only justified in RL by massive government benefits.

It is possible to get such a big army (10% of population), but there would be simply NO way to pay for it, over anything longer than a few years. It is only feasible for the wealthier nations during times of war, when the population cooperate to support the war effort.

You can have tax rates as high as you want them. Most Socialist, high tax rate governemnts, spend alot of money on the essentials. Like Welfare, Education, and Social Equality. If they don't there people are just quite pissed off.

It is possible and feasible for it to last along time. Just don't pay them much and don't train them all that well. They'll just be cannon-fodder, but hey you have alot of troops.

Just in case you've been wondering guys, I'm kind of at a crossroads here. Could putting up a completely fragmentary factbook count as sufficient activity to stay on for another month or so?:confused: I know in the abstract I can get it done (as is I have the fluff down already), but for some reason every time I try to put in the gritty details to SYAE standards I get frustrated and end up having to walk off before I scream. This goes especially for the Suharto-era army and navy (the air force being fairly well-documented) that I've decided I should inherit for IC and realism purposes, since just about every ORBAT I consult has completely different unit and equipment establishments, where those are even given to start with as opposed to just commands and troop numbers.:headbang: Make no mistake, I want to stay on. It's just looking a bit hard to get started right now on my end, and has been really ever since my broader-NS wars started sucking up my RP time like you wouldn't believe...

You can have tax rates as high as you want them. Most Socialist, high tax rate governemnts, spend alot of money on the essentials. Like Welfare, Education, and Social Equality. If they don't there people are just quite pissed off.

It is possible and feasible for it to last along time. Just don't pay them much and don't train them all that well. They'll just be cannon-fodder, but hey you have alot of troops.

I believe the highest tax level in the world is still only in the 50s.... And that's in Scandanavia, rich countries with massive welfares. If you tax $4200 out of a $5000 income I don't think there's much of a chance that the people will live contently.

Also, with an army that size - 21,341,813 - let's say each soldier is paid $4000 per year. Which is low, considering that GDP per captia is $5000, but it comes to $85,367,252,000 - 6.78% of GDP. Then they'll have to equip them with something, and equipments will cost maintenace. Of course, the soldiers also need to be fed, clothed, housed, trained etc. Depending on type/quality of all these, there goes another $80-90 to $150-160 billion. That means at least 13% of GDP, assuming no new weaponry is being bought/develop.

The only RL example exceeding this value is Rwanda, which has a 60% of population below poverty line and $1,600 GDP per captia.

I must profuesly apologize for my inactivity and little commitment to the development of New SYAE. I mostly participate in non-jolt, invision free websites based off of Nation States. My ignorance of some of the technology did not equip me to take on a leading role as SYAE's only superpower. I am rping on some other sites currently to bolster my knowledge of some military technology. Someday, I may wish to take an active role in the New SYAE, but for now I shall continue learning.

I must profuesly apologize for my inactivity and little commitment to the development of New SYAE. I mostly participate in non-jolt, invision free websites based off of Nation States. My ignorance of some of the technology did not equip me to take on a leading role as SYAE's only superpower. I am rping on some other sites currently to bolster my knowledge of some military technology. Someday, I may wish to take an active role in the New SYAE, but for now I shall continue learning.

It's alright dood. If you'd of asked some of us could of helped you. Most of us know alot about the American Military, although I know more about the German Military, and we could of assisted you.

That said, I am willing to help anyone in need of help with Factbooks, Questions, maybe a few military questions.

But LOL at Franberry asking me to use my factbook design and Maldorians asking Franberry permission to use his.

Can I claim part of South America?

Can I claim part of South America?

I dunno can you? What part of South America do you want? Theres not much left.

These two are ok. Atleast in my opinion.

So I am good then...super.

So I am good then...super.

Yes, now get to work on that Factbook.

I dunno can you? What part of South America do you want? Theres not much left.

How much is left?

How much is left?

4 Countries, well three technically. Ecuador, Suriname, Guyana, and French Guiana.

4 Countries, well three technically. Ecuador, Suriname, Guyana, and French Guiana.

I will take Suriname, Guyana, and French Guiana.

I will take Suriname, Guyana, and French Guiana.

Fine. Approved and all that jazz.

Fine. Approved and all that jazz.

Ok cool. I will start on all the crap I need to do. Oh and I want to call it Free South America

Here are the new claims as I have them.

Maldorians: Mexico, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, and Nicaragua.

Approved

Whyatica: America, Canada, Mexico

If you want America that is it, I’m not giving the world’s only superpower even more power.

Skibereen: Venezuela, Colombia, Peru and Brazil.

Approved

Franberry: Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay

Thank you very much.

On an unrelated note: These designs that people seem to be making are very high-tech, if they are possible within the timeline, then they should be not only expenisve, but hard to use and hard to maintain. Attaching Ramjets to tank rounds is not an easy or inexpensive endevour.

Thank you very much.

On an unrelated note: These designs that people seem to be making are very high-tech, if they are possible within the timeline, then they should be not only expenisve, but hard to use and hard to maintain. Attaching Ramjets to tank rounds is not an easy or inexpensive endevour.

Thats pretty much the jist of it. They won't be easy to use, but eventually they will be easier to use as time goes on.

Thank you very much.

On an unrelated note: These designs that people seem to be making are very high-tech, if they are possible within the timeline, then they should be not only expenisve, but hard to use and hard to maintain. Attaching Ramjets to tank rounds is not an easy or inexpensive endevour.

Who said it was cheap? we're aiming for 12 million USD a peice for the new tank; and maintainance will be around $600 a mile. the new rounds will cost around $2500 a peice ( which is twice a normal Sabot) still cheaper than an ATGM

Armenia: ANNEX'D

Who said it was cheap? we're aiming for 12 million USD a peice for the new tank; and maintainance will be around $600 a mile. the new rounds will cost around $2500 a peice ( which is twice a normal Sabot) still cheaper than an ATGM
I did not say they were, and I am glad that you are being realistic about this. I just hate it when RL MT Nations start fielding Armies of NS quality in NS quantity.

Armenia: ANNEX'D

Jaredcohenia: ANNEX'D

Of course, I don't have proof of this - do you?

Just a quick note to everyone, there is going to be some trouble growing in Russia soon...for now it's a secret, but the people are growing a little tired of communism giving them a mediocre living and the military is a bit overzealous...the only person who has somewhat of a clue is Kiwiland...he knows what I'm talking about.

Jaredcohenia: ANNEX'D

Of course, I don't have proof of this - do you?

Armenia (Well, Franberry) conceded to my terms of Armenian surrender. Such surrendering included Balkan annexation of Armenia.

Armenia (Well, Franberry) conceded to my terms of Armenian surrender. Such surrendering included Balkan annexation of Armenia.

Link for lubricated euphoria:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12474445&postcount=62

Armenia (Well, Franberry) conceded to my terms of Armenian surrender. Such surrendering included Balkan annexation of Armenia.

surrender - indeed. But is the war over?

surrender - indeed. But is the war over?

Who knows, maybe I'll do something in SIC.

NO, IT WON'T BE GENOCIDE.

Oh Really?

Oh Really?

ya rly

we'll have hop skotch games

ya rly

we'll have hop skotch games

russian roulette?

russian roulette?

With a loaded pistol?

I guarantee no Armenian will be harmed if they comply. Armenia right now has been annexed by the Balkan Union as per the demands of Armenia itself. :P

Armenia is my sovereign territory. And isn't an Empire calling an annexation imperialistic greed the pot calling the kettle black?

Armenia (Well, Franberry) conceded to my terms of Armenian surrender. Such surrendering included Balkan annexation of Armenia.

The government surrendered, but you've yet to assert control, so it's not a full annexation in fact.

Just out of interest, what happened to the Armenian president?

Just out of interest, what happened to the Armenian president?

He's over Anatolia somewhere. He'll be safe.

Just because you think the war is over, doesn't mean we are gonna let if be over. And just because Armenia surrendered doesn't mean that they are going to take it lying down. As long as there is hope for returned sovereignity they will fight back. Mostly Partisan Groups, hit and run tactics. Much like Iraq today.

Do keep in mind, Jared, that your GDP per capita is going to drop considerably when you take in Armenia (not only are you spending loads on their reconstruction, which will be hefty and deprive your budget from other areas-likely military or law enforcement, which will have adverse effects), but you're also absorbing a rather poor country with plenty of people in it that have just gotten even poorer from being bombed the BeJeezus out of.

Just some context to take in note.

Is there any world event going on that FSA can join without getting my ass handed to me?

Is there any world event going on that FSA can join without getting my ass handed to me?

Panama :)

Is there any world event going on that FSA can join without getting my ass handed to me?

Africa's always looking for economic relations, us capitalist crazies ;)

Africa's always looking for economic relations, us capitalist crazies ;)

That would probably be my best bet. I did do a world broadcast in the general IC that went pretty much ignored, but then again since I am a tiny South American country that seems very realistic.

Do keep in mind, Jared, that your GDP per capita is going to drop considerably when you take in Armenia (not only are you spending loads on their reconstruction, which will be hefty and deprive your budget from other areas-likely military or law enforcement, which will have adverse effects), but you're also absorbing a rather poor country with plenty of people in it that have just gotten even poorer from being bombed the BeJeezus out of.

Just some context to take in note.

all part of my plan

zing

I'm only planning on funding the rebuild of Yerevan and at the same time increasing the workload and giving Armenians jobs.

But most likely none of this will occur, if I keep being threatened my militaries I must just leave Armenia the way I found it - a shithole. :P

If you don't want me in Armenia, nations of the world - it'll be your responsibility to clean it up.

Panama :)

I would probably get my ass handed to me if any one of the many plans for Panama happen.

I would probably get my ass handed to me if any one of the many plans for Panama happen.

Stick to the man and go for it. If you were invaded for stabilizing a neighbor then I'm sure most of the world would be with you.

Stick to the man and go for it. If you were invaded for stabilizing a neighbor then I'm sure most of the world would be with you.

Good point.

Is there a thread to Panama or are we doing it in the General IC?

Is there a thread to Panama or are we doing it in the General IC?

The thread was up for about 6 posts, then everyone else went back to the General IC, so for now, I am doing the small movements of rebels in there.

Prepare for Operation: Desert Wrath, this time Israel will launch a suprise attack, rather than being suprised..... oops, did i type that or just think it....... DAMN DAMN DAMN, WHERES THE BACKSPACE.
*starts burning plans*

Where's WP?

my factbook. not much, but theres history and some navy. hope to add more

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522143&highlight=Ebedron

Here is my factbook...


The Central American Alliance (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521766)

Why isn't anyone interested in the Russian events? I would think the US of all people would since they are witnessing the fall of communism there.

All we see for now is unrest, when we're sure the communism is falling, I'll try to aid the process >>

I'm back!!!! Whooo!!

So......can anyone tell me what kinda happened in a general sense in SYAE since Tuesday? Without me having to look back through 24 pages of OOC comments....not to mention other threads?

It feels good to have a mouse under my hand and a keyboard beneath my fingers.

I'm back!!!! Whooo!!

So......can anyone tell me what kinda happened in a general sense in SYAE since Tuesday? Without me having to look back through 24 pages of OOC comments....not to mention other threads?

It feels good to have a mouse under my hand and a keyboard beneath my fingers.

I annexed Armenia, communism is falling in the RSFSR..

America was claimed, all of South America was claimed, etc.

Ecuador is still free I think.