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SF, Ame:

Do either of you have MSN MEssenger?

No...

Be patient concerning the raid (I told you both OOC that if you went through with it you would have to be patient...)

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The SWC insurgency was utterly ineffective, which is why they stoped supporting it... Amestria's military position just became stronger.

Mckagan and Hal. have been attacking Amestria ever since Amestria told them they could not annex Torontian land...

You do not know what my goals for the TPLA are or were. You were not fighting McKagan and Halberdgardia. You were fighting a few people with guns. A war agaisnt the SWC would be just a BIT more... deadly, for you.

You do not know what my goals for the TPLA are or were. You were not fighting McKagan and Halberdgardia. You were fighting a few people with guns. A war agaisnt the SWC would be just a BIT more... deadly, for you.

Of course a war with the SWC would be deadly for all sides, do you think I am stupid?! It is in the best interests of the SWC to promote peace in Torontia BTW...

I do know that the TPLA was defeated after the use of the bio-weapon backfired...

Mckagan TG...

Mckagan, another TG...

McKagan, you need to look back a few pages on your conference thread and respond to the foreign minister's office aides.

McKagan, please respond to my delegate greeting you.

SEA we are at the Conference phase now, greetings are over...

Amestria, just wondering, but, is it possible for you to RP more than one thing at a time? Like, to post in more than one RP?

Look, I told you if you went through with the raids to be patient... I will get to it when I have time, maybe tomorrow...

No rush, just asking.

Red Tide:
its been posted numerous times in the main thread. Most notably when attacking the Yallak fleet.

SF, are you trying to kill the peace conference?

So Southeastasia, do you plan on having Ho say anything?

What makes you think that? I have nobody to spare to send to it. All my officials are tied up.

*Chairman – Madam Chairwoman Katherine Schleicher
*Past Chairman – Sir Chairman Gary Girardi
*Minister of Foreign Affairs – Sir Chairman Gary Girardi
*Minister of Internal Affairs – Madam Fleur Summer
*Minister of the Republics – Sahdka Misoui
*Minister of Defence – Sir Louis Riel
***Minister of Finance – Sir Matthew Ingles
*Minister of Commerce and Trade – Madam Molly Spragg
**Minister of Justice – Sir Harold Willens
***Minister of the Environment – Sir Derrick Griffiths
***Minister of Health and Education – Madam Jill Coleman
****Minister at Large - Sean Keane (not yet sworn in)

*Preparing for the Conference of the Commonwealth
**In trial
***No authority, experience or relevance
****In a meeting already.


Commander in Chief – Admiral Ken Murphy (Navy)
----Preparing for the Conference of the Commonwealth, planning military exercises, preparing the navy
Deputy Commander in Chief – General Maximus Obliqus (Army)
----In Torontia
Deputy Commander in Chief – Marshall Janice Clubb (Air Force)
----Planning military exercises, preparing the Air Force and Army
Chief of Intelligence – Chief Raymond Franks
----Like the head of the Intelligence Bureau would be sent. He is currently in his office pouring over information that has been gathered by the field agents in Torontia and abroad.

So you see, I have nobody to send.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=455551

Indeed. And it'll involve a wee bit of political pretending here and there... ;)

Please... I know stonewalling when I see it...

Or do they? Have you heard of PRA, Amestria?

No...

Amestria...you don't know those ships are bound for Torontia. And only 4 cargo ships? Carrying the rest of 3 armies? Either way you don't know those are heading to Torontia, infact some of them aren't (namely the 8 Nanticoke Class carriers).

Amestria...you don't know those ships are bound for Torontia. And only 4 cargo ships? Carrying the rest of 3 armies? Either way you don't know those are heading to Torontia, infact some of them aren't (namely the 8 Nanticoke Class carriers).

Amestria believes they are and Amestria can say that (besides it is no secret many are heading in the General direction of Torontia).

If you're going to list 4 cargo ships...either vastly increase it, or just drop it altogether.

Got this from McKagen:

"Ok, I'm getting this public: I'm preparing to put a policy into place where McKagan (and possibly the SWC) acts as Yallak did in Torontia. Meaning, anyone who breaks the peace will be eliminated. Amestria wanted me to tell you this, because he thinks you're preparing for war."

I replied:

"Well we won't even thingk of reducing troop numbers until the Amestrians numerical superiority is down to 2:1 at the most. You know what, we may even withdraw from Torontia. Something else is going on the requires our attention. Thing is, if you attack, I'll ICly surrender, then burn the mother fucker down. Then use the forces freed up from the Torontian Theatre to devestate the Amestrian homeland instead of wiping them off in Torontia. Doesn't really matter to me."

We'll just see what happens. I don't plan on leaving the conference, just don't plan on letting Amestria win.

McKagan, like that is going to help Torontia get back on its feet....

FYI to all: I will be at a New Years' party for the remainder of the evening, so I would appreciate it if no one sent me any more TGs until I've had a chance to clear out my inbox (I've already got 12 and don't want to lose some of the old ones). Thanks, and may you all have a happy, healthy, and safe New Years.

FYI to all: I will be at a New Years' party for the remainder of the evening, so I would appreciate it if no one sent me any more TGs until I've had a chance to clear out my inbox (I've already got 12 and don't want to lose some of the old ones). Thanks, and may you all have a happy, healthy, and safe New Years.

Mckagan is sending you a TG...

I really should read this thread more.

Saw it, and replied. I'm leaving in about ten or fifteen minutes, so that's the cutoff for TGs.

McKagan, like that is going to help Torontia get back on its feet....

I expressly said it would be only if someone else started a war; at which point Torontia would already be screwed anyway.

Wait, whats the situation with Torontia and what happened. Was there a war, and what is going on.

Scratch that, I'm leaving now. No more TGs until I log on tomorrow, please. See you all next year! (A terrible pun, I know, but it had to be said. :p)

Happy New Year Hal. :)

Mckagan...TG

Parthia: Basically, yes, there was a war, Torontia was an ally of The Kraven Corporation, which has been an enemy of Kahanistan (me), Xirnium, and several other nations for a long time.

Yallak, one of our allies, fired off a shitload of cruise missiles to destroy Torontia, and the dictator, Col. Vader Tanakis, fled the country with most of the nation's treasury.

Amestria set up a provisional government, but only in Western Torontia because St. Fedski had arrived at the same time and set up an interim government in Eastern Torontia.

The two occupiers are in conflict over how to handle the transition of Torontia back to a sovereign power. Each accuses the other side of imperialism.

Kahanistan itself is neutral, holding an alliance with St. Fedski and good relations with Amestria. Kahanistan and Amestria are in the political soup over accusations that they summarily killed TPLA (Torontian People's Liberation Army) guerrillas. Despite the name, the TPLA appears to be fascist, not communist.

Right now, Amestria, Kahanistan, St. Fedski, and several of their allies are involved in diplomatic talks that will hopefully make Torontia a self-sufficient nation again.

Somebody ought to create an NSWiki page on the Torontian conflict, make everything easier... sometimes even the major players don't know what's going on, I know I get lost sometimes.

We'll contract Hal to write the Wiki if he's interested. After what he did with the Saharistan War one, I think he's a god at it. :p

He did that wiki entry? Yes that was a very good job...

[builds alter of Hal. and bows before it...]

Is Yallak still hanging around? And Sarzonia and Czardas?

Sarz delivered supplies and left.

Czardas's planes arrived and then left as a ceasefire was in place.

Yallak is still in Torontia but OOC has dropped off the planet...

Still, I think they need to post to verify.

Still, I think they need to post to verify.

Czardas told me by TG (ask him that way).

Sarz has a post somewhere but I do not feel like finding it.

and Yallak never posted he was leaving.

Just to clear up any confusion on my position...

The Red Tidean Goverment has declared support for Saint Fedeski, but is considering withdrawing support in light of recent troubles... they arnt exactly friendly with Amestria either however.

Yallak, one of our allies, fired off a shitload of cruise missiles to destroy Torontia, and the dictator, Col. Vader Tanakis, fled the country with most of the nation's treasury.


None of those missile hit as Yallak detonated them in mid air...

Just to clear up any confusion on my position...

The Red Tidean Goverment has declared support for Saint Fedeski, but is considering withdrawing support in light of recent troubles... they arnt exactly friendly with Amestria either however.

It is mutual... However, Amestria has no vendetta against Red Tide...

I just hope that Yallak doesn't stay gone to the point where it delays the RP. Well, if he's deleted we'll just say those ships aren't there or something.

Link (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/The_Battle_of_the_Thermometers#THE_CONFLICT_UNFURLS)

Go to THAT Wiki. That was one of the most fun RP's i've ever been in. It's just a note to everyone who wants to challenge a McKagan vessel that's operating alone.

McKagan, what was the consequence again should delegates walk out?

Well as Xirnium has no say in what happens in Torontia anyway, they just assured that they will be ignored on the subject no matter what else happens...

(Perhaps they will be demonized by the Mckagan media...its up to Mckagan what happens...)

McKagan, what was the consequence again should delegates walk out?

I believe the given consequence would be that international news would report that nation recently stopped peace negotiations; but that's only for the frontline nations, I think.

Xirnium was being ignored anyway, so there was no reason to leave our disgust at the proceedings in any doubt. Now it's clear.

Xirnium was being ignored anyway, so there was no reason to leave our disgust at the proceedings in any doubt. Now it's clear.

Your proposals were listened to and you storm out because one was rejected!

We stormed out because you had no reason to stand by such an idiotic condition and yet stubbournly did anyway, for your own ends and not Torontia's. You ignored our arguments and dug in your heels, so we left.

Now, when Torontia descends into civil war, and it will, the High Ecclesiarchy can say with clear conscious that they had no part in Amestria's disaster.

Disbanding the TPG would have resulted in Civil War...

Sorry to intrude, but I'll be throwing allegiance behind whoever Hailandkill supports.

AH HELL NOW! My nation respects Macabees to a great extent... DILEMMA TIME!

HailandKill happens to be supporting Saint Fedski. And Amestria, are you planning on adding the Amestrian language to the NS wiki? Sounds like a conglomeration of French and Spanish, German, and a few things here and there...

Disbanding the TPG would have resulted in Civil War...
Rubbish.

French/German. I am thinking about adding it to the wiki...

HailandKill happens to be supporting Saint Fedski. And Amestrian, are you planning on adding the Amestrian language to the NS wiki? Sounds like a conglomeration of French and Spanish, German, and a few things here and there...

I don't think HK is sure on who he's supporting right now; or so I understand from what he's told me so far on AIM.

Rubbish.

No, not rubbish. Is Xirnium in Torontia, no, they have never engaged in an Occupation nor apparantly a Peace Conference which aims to end a civil war.

The TPG would refuse to disband (and then I would start roleplaying them as Western Torontia, seperate from Amestria)...

I was not making it up for the peace conference, I was serious...

The TPG would collapse in a day without Amestria's assistance.

You honestly believe an installed government that has only existed for several months can survive without their puppet masters?

Anyway, I find it depressing that Amestria's foreign policy is held hostage to dictators that are its own creation.

The TPG would collapse in a day without Amestria's assistance.

No, a government with over a million troops, control of the media, and a functioning civil service will not collapse overnight...

Amestria built one badass Government...

You honestly believe an installed government that has only existed for several months can survive without their puppet masters?

It has actually existed for almost a year...

I don't think HK is sure on who he's supporting right now; or so I understand from what he's told me so far on AIM.

I spose I'll support whoever Mac does.

Also, people are asking about Czardas. He won't be able to assist much since he's involved in a war.

I spose I'll support whoever Mac does.

Also, people are asking about Czardas. He won't be able to assist much since he's involved in a war.

At present the RP is closed, Partia has had no involvment on any of its 135 pages...

Also, Torontia is in North America...

The exact relationship between Amestrian and the TPG can best be summed up by the following exchanges...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9956085&postcount=46

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9959237&postcount=58

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9959780&postcount=65

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9961019&postcount=70

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9965857&postcount=78

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10000233&postcount=143

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10002729&postcount=149

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10006441&postcount=155

As can be seen, it is not a puppet, it is as much a puppet as was the Government of South Korea during the Korean war...

Y'know, technically those people COULD be allowed here if we tried hard enough.

HailandKill is a member of the SWC (I think, we have good relations and he was in the war,) The Macabees is a strong McKagan trade ally and an HK friend; and I don't see why someone couldn't bring in a FEW of their allies in on this.

Let us see... I was not vetoing their future involvement, if thing escalate...

Mckagan...TG

McKagan, do you have an embassy exchange thread?

McKagan, do you have an embassy exchange thread?

No: I just take embassies from whoever I am friendly with and keep a list for personal use.

Southeast Asia, all talk of an alliance is happening in a backroom. Your delegate (or SF's for that matter) would not know about it!

Please correct...

OK, X, Donovan's caught up with Sabelina. The ball's rolling.

Also, FYI to everyone: I've done my "inbox dump", so my inbox is completely empty, and you can send me as much stuff as you want.

Well, if I were to get involved period, it wouldn't be through the use of huge amounts of men, because simply said, if I have to get involved before the War of Golden Succession is over then I don't have men to spare [I have to quell two rebellions, a Havenite invasion, and all the while invade Zarbia, while giving some naval aid to Guffingford]. If it happens after the War of Golden Succession I still won't be able to put many men in; my economy will most likely have to pick up, I'm expecting huge casualties in the jungles of Zarbia [my military is not experienced in jungle warfare], and my armed forces are just going to be beat up. So, if I were to get involved at some point it would be rather limited, with limited Waffen-SS deployments [my foreign service - made up entirely of foreign personnel], and mostly character roleplaying and news service role playing, and other than that, a focus on naval warfare, et cetera.

Hal... TG...

Amestria...can't use this post.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10186658&postcount=164

The quote was a private whisper between the two guys and as such it will be ignored and anything done because of that will be as well. Thank you. HAppy New Year.

Amestria...can't use this post.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10186658&postcount=164

The quote was a private whisper between the two guys and as such it will be ignored and anything done because of that will be as well. Thank you. HAppy New Year.

Well, Red Tide meantioned changing his support anyway, so the note will still be sent...

SF, Bradley is not talking in the conference room, he is in the communications center. You and SEA have no idea what he is talking about, please change!

I don't know what either he or you are talking about. But seeing as red tide is making suggestions about support as you say, its a preemptive measure.

Hal... TG...

Rog, responding in my next post in the diplomacy thread. My Pres. is at a conference in Czardas, so you'll get a low-level flunky for a bit, then you'll eventually be transferred to my SecState.

Rog, responding in my next post in the diplomacy thread. My Pres. is at a conference in Czardas, so you'll get a low-level flunky for a bit, then you'll eventually be transferred to my SecState.

Ok...

Hal - TG/Post of Spietz asking for a ride.

Whew, where do we start...

So, our troops are making HALO jumps, in the dead of night. Well, Ame, I'm not sure if you've ever witnessed an Airborne Excercise at night, but it's pretty hard to see, lest you're utilizing NVGs. Which I will go ahead and assume your men are using, seeing as it is night, but you didn't post that. Now, our men are wearing camouflage, and since it is a HALO jump, you wouldn't have even recognized us until we were just that close to the ground. But you didn't say you saw us, you said you heard us. Now here's the trick. Performed correctly, the landing of a HALO jump would have made next to no noise. So, unless we just happened to land about ten-twenty feet away from your platoon, then I find it hard to believe that you would have heard us hit the ground.

Also, you may not be familiar with tactical movements, but I don't ever remember just going into a dead sprint to get somewhere unless we were already under fire. Tactical, small-team movement, would consist of slowly moving to cover, with a low silluette. Which, we aren't. Also, since I'm just assuming your men are wearing NVGs, let's go ahead and assume my men aren't retarded and just running around blind in the darkness. Not to mention through their scopes they would have been looking throught either Starlight, Infrared, or MWR, and not just Zoom. Therefore, especially through Infrared and MWR, we'd have been able to see your men far before you saw us. And we would have engaged and destroyed your men before you knew we were there.

I don't mind your guys are veterans or whatever. Just please, don't just randomly pop guys up like that. It makes for a BS RP. If you want to engage us, have them pick us up en route or something. Geez, be constructive. Have your men find the chutes or something after we move out. But if you don't want to change anything and just continue to get your way on everything, tell me how many men we have to engage in order to continue on.

Hal, you got mail!

-snip-

I was hoping to imply that you had landed right on top of them (right next to them in fact)... There are saturation patrols (busy work) throughout Western Amestria... In addition, there being a curfew means that there would be no one but police and soldiers out at night... Therefore, when they sense movement of any kind they investigate (their bored and its probably someone breaking the law). At present they think they are civilians who broke curfew...

If you feel it is a cheap shot I will change it…

If not, there are 15 soldiers in this particular group (with another 15 in a separate group).

I think it makes sense that Amestria would be able to find alot of SpecOps patrols. He has ALOT of troops, afterall.

I think it makes sense that Amestria would be able to find alot of SpecOps patrols. He has ALOT of troops, afterall.

1.5 million Amestrian and TPG troops in South Western Torontia. Three Divisions (60,000 Troops) in the area where the raid takes place...

[QUOTE=Amestria]-snip-[QUOTE]

Yes, I do believe it's a pretty cheap shot. But hey, if you want to play like that, it's fine with me. They think we're civilians, we can show them we're not. Alrighty, let the games begin!

[QUOTE=Amestria]-snip-

Yes, I do believe it's a pretty cheap shot. But hey, if you want to play like that, it's fine with me. They think we're civilians, we can show them we're not. Alrighty, let the games begin!

I'd just like to point out that the last time Amestrian forces engaged a small group of "raiders" they lost a platoon of soldiers plus two helicopters.

Something to think about. :p

I'd just like to point out that the last time Amestrian forces engaged a small group of "raiders" they lost a platoon of soldiers plus two helicopters.

Something to think about. :p

Now the Torontian coast is so fortified those "raiders" would be blown out of the water before getting close to shore (something more to think about).

The LSAS (my "lander") is designed to take heavy fire and remain stealthy. If you didn't have a fucking patrol around every corner it wouldn't be THAT bad. :p

The LSAS (my "lander") is designed to take heavy fire and remain stealthy. If you didn't have a fucking patrol around every corner it wouldn't be THAT bad. :p

There are 400,000 TPG troops protecting the coasts, protecting, not patroling. That boat would be headed strait for emplaced artillery and heavy maching gun nests...

SF, you have mail!

I don't get it.

Check your telegrams.

There are 400,000 TPG troops protecting the coasts, protecting, not patroling. That boat would be headed strait for emplaced artillery and heavy maching gun nests...

And under the cover of night would (this time) park off shore and deploy its troops onto the beach undetected.

Besides, I would just use the Stealth Blimp now. :)

Check your telegrams.
A bunch from Amestria and a bunch from X. None from you or anybody else. Oh wait, there's one from Kahanistan.

Because Amestria has been excessively clogging up your TGs is why its down.

Because Amestria has been excessively clogging up your TGs is why its down.

I will pretend I did not hear that...

lol

Check your TGs again SF, I resent the copy.

Got it and replied.

More TGs for Saint Fedski!

SF, that post you made RPs my losses (namly the bring down of the leader with a stun gun!)

Sf...tg!

So a stun gun won't bring him down? Is he impervious to being tased? I don't think so man. It'd be the same result if you made the post, or if I made the post.

So a stun gun won't bring him down? Is he impervious to being tased? I don't think so man. It'd be the same result if you made the post, or if I made the post.

Why not shoot him or stap him with a sword then? Why not taser every member of the platoon?! It is still RPing my losses!

If I was to shoot him or to stab him, I wouldn't be able to capture him or interrogate him or the like or as the IB likes to do: extract information.

If I was to shoot him or to stab him, I wouldn't be able to capture him or interrogate him or the like or as the IB likes to do: extract information.

It is RPing my losses, period!

How do you suggest I fix it?

How do you suggest I fix it?

The very ugily SF soldier who was breaking the law rushed up and tried to taser the Amestrian commander...est.

There you go.

SF...another TG on Tuckers proposal...

SF more TG's (in case you have not noticed)

Sorry for my absence, been very busy over the last week.

On another note in regards to SEA and antimatter - it is entirely MT now and in a few weeks i will be utilising it in weaponry. Check my thread: Beneath the Surface - that where the cool stuff will happen.

Sorry for my absence, been very busy over the last week.

On another note in regards to SEA and antimatter - it is entirely MT now and in a few weeks i will be utilising it in weaponry. Check my thread: Beneath the Surface - that where the cool stuff will happen.
Good. I hope a major screw-up happens.

Possibly - but unlikely. Ive done my research well.

Can anyone give me a sum up of what ive missed? I breifly skimmed through the OOC and IC threads but there was alot and i did it quickly. If anything requires my direct attention then let me know and ill reply.

Let's see....there is an Iraq-style human rights scandal by Amestria, Halberdgardia's President has sicced a powerful condemnation at the AOA, Kahanistan is trying to save its improved relations with Amestria by helping them cover the evidence (and failing thanks to a defecting man called Lt. Foster), there are now peace-talks being held in McKagan, and the Yallakians should find McKagan a surprisingly formidable foe.... ;)

Do you have the link for the peace talks?

Why should i consider Mckagan formidable?

Because if you end up getting involved in a conflict, he has several strong allies and he has a devastatingly intelligent and hammer-blowing UCAV air force. His air force base in Libertad (Hogsweat colony region) is close enough to reach Torontia. Amestria has dragged in the SWC to assist in the stability of Torontia, and he has a substantial fleet of warships nearby.

Still, his forces cannot match mine alone.

Alone? Even alone, he will give you a hell of a time, and at least give a couple of long-term wounds that your military will take quite a while to recover.

I doubt it.

Possibly - but unlikely. Ive done my research well.

Can anyone give me a sum up of what ive missed? I breifly skimmed through the OOC and IC threads but there was alot and i did it quickly. If anything requires my direct attention then let me know and ill reply.

SF is threatening war, if they break the peace in Torontia will Yallak move against them...?

Halberdgardia's President has sicced a powerful condemnation at the AOA,

Totally ineffective.


Yallakians should find McKagan a surprisingly formidable foe.... ;)

Amestria and Mckagan are now working together towards reaching Peace in Torontia... So I see no reason for Yallak to fight with them at present.

Peace Conference in Kurora is trying to settle the Torontian question.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=461440

If war breaks out again its unlikely that Yallak will intervene unless the circumstances give direct reason for Imperial involvment.

Thanks for the link.

Say SF launches an unprovoked attack...

If it resulted in Yallakian deaths yes otherwise no

If it resulted in Yallakian deaths yes otherwise no

Were are Yallak troops again?

Because if you end up getting involved in a conflict, he has several strong allies and he has a devastatingly intelligent and hammer-blowing UCAV air force. His air force base in Libertad (Hogsweat colony region) is close enough to reach Torontia. Amestria has dragged in the SWC to assist in the stability of Torontia, and he has a substantial fleet of warships nearby.

Bragging about other nations military power again are we...?

Near Forks, Hoquiam, South Bend, Centralia and in Shelton and Port Angeles and on Mount Olympus

Bragging about other nations military power again are we...?
No. I'm just saying what I have seen from the SWC nations' rps.

Hal, TG!

So, can someone fill me in. What's the deal between Amnestria and Saint Fedski? What are the allegiances here? If war was to sprout, what would be the most plausible sides?

Still, his forces cannot match mine alone.

It depends on how you say "match." The UCAV division of my airforce would play for MAD against your Air assets. You'd be losing alot of pilots regardless. That said, a war against you would be difficult if only for the population difference. But to point out, a population doesn't make or break RP's. I have the SWC behind me. The last time I checked, the SWC has a perfect military record.

His air force base in Libertad (Hogsweat colony region) is close enough to reach Torontia. Amestria has dragged in the SWC to assist in the stability of Torontia, and he has a substantial fleet of warships nearby.

My fleet of warships would be SOOOOO outnumbered I'd just have them run away before even engaging, probably. Also, to point out, I have TWO IMAF bases that can hit into Torontia. The one south of San Diego, and the one in Libertad. I've also got 155 on my AC carrier than just came in...

So, can someone fill me in. What's the deal between Amnestria and Saint Fedski? What are the allegiances here? If war was to sprout, what would be the most plausible sides?

Saint Fedski
Republic of New McFarland (me)
Republic of North Saint Clair
Republic of Pink (Hogsweat Colony Region)
Republic of Communist Revolution
Kingdom of Thorns (Thornz)
Xirnium
**Hailandkill

Amestria
Amestria
Red Tide
The Lone Alliance

Unknown or neutral
Kahanistan
McKagan
Yallak
Halbergardia
Southeast Asia
Leafanistan
Independant Montana
Black Hand of Nod

**I have been in talks with HaK but the Imperial Republic is part of the SWC which is unknown.

Amestria is a bit outclassed, it seems.

An FYI to all participants: I resume school tomorrow (1/3), and I have finals next week. I believe the next two weekends are three-day-weekends, so I'll have more time then, but I just wanted to warn you all that you'll probably be seeing a bit less of me for the next two weeks; I'll still be around and posting, but not quite as much as I have been for the past several days.

Kahanistan
Xirnium


Kahanistan is not on SF's side. And I don't think Xirnium is either...

The Accurate List

Saint Fedski
Republic of New McFarland
Republic of North Saint Clair
Republic of Pink (Hogsweat Colony Region)
Republic of Communist Revolution
Kingdom of Thorns (Thornz)

Amestria
Amestria(me)
Red Tide
The Lone Alliance

SWC
McKagan
Halbergardia
Tannenmille

Unknown or neutral
Xirnium
Kahanistan
Southeast Asia
Yallak
Hailandkill

Right, as long as Amestria or her allies don't attack SF's homeland, Kahanistan will not intervene.

And I wouldn't advise SF to attack Amestria's homeland, either, they have nukes.

The Macabees...TG

Count me in with the SWC. Though I've been inactive lately, I'm reading through this thread and whatever action the SWC takes, as a member I support my fellow allies McKagan and Halberdgardia.

Now, to read through the other 40 pages of this thread.

McKagan, TG!

The Macabees...TG

Responded to in the thread; the TG is a replica of the order on the thread, right?

Responded to in the thread; the TG is a replica of the order on the thread, right?

Yeah....do you want me to TG you the money once the weapons arrive or do you just assume Amestria sent the money?

Amestria, now can we use fluid time?

Amestria, now can we use fluid time?

We have been using it for a while, where have you been?

Didn't you say you were rping as fast as RL went? Because Sarzonia finds you to be a bit obssessive on RL time when it comes to rping.

Didn't you say you were rping as fast as RL went? Because Sarzonia finds you to be a bit obssessive on RL time when it comes to rping.

That was during the war (which was a while back). Since the cease fire we have been on fluid time...

Oh. I'll go and tell him that.

Oh. I'll go and tell him that.

What are you planning now?

I have no scheme. The only thing I'm going to tell him is that you're allowing fluid time now.

An FYI to all participants: I resume school tomorrow (1/3), and I have finals next week. I believe the next two weekends are three-day-weekends, so I'll have more time then, but I just wanted to warn you all that you'll probably be seeing a bit less of me for the next two weeks; I'll still be around and posting, but not quite as much as I have been for the past several days.

I go back on Wednesday (1/4). We've already had finals so it starts a new semester, but I have gym for 90 minutes each day (the last thing of the day, too) so i'll probably be like dead in the evenings. I'll still be on RP'ing on the weekends and for a few hours each night, but don't expect instant responses (or responses at all, sometimes) to all your TG's or requests in a post.

That's hard. I hate Gym stuff they always over did it.

Sorry to say guys, but I started Winter Learning* today. I wont be active on this for the next two weeks except on the weekends and late afternoons/evenings.

*Winter Learning takes place during the first two weeks of the second semester of my school. The student signs up for special activities that only occur during Winter Learning.

That's hard. I hate Gym stuff they always over did it.

My teacher has two sons who are both HB's for Virginia Tech football.

Okay, so, I'm late registering, and I have NG Drill this weekend, and getting down there, then teaching a class down there, and moving into the dorms on Monday and starting class on Tuesday. So, I won't be active, like, at all, for the next week at least. After that I should be good. Not that I have a real big part in this at all, but it makes me feel special.

I have a new semester of College coming up (and some personal issues that promise to keep me busy).

OOC:Thorns, your corps appear to have too many tanks. You should have more APCs then tanks, even in Armored/Panzer/Tank/Whatever-you-like-to-call-them divisions there are more APCs then tanks.

It's not important. There is no set amount of vehicles a division can have.

Saint Fedski
Republic of New McFarland (me)
Republic of North Saint Clair
Republic of Pink (Hogsweat Colony Region)
Republic of Communist Revolution
Kingdom of Thorns (Thornz)
Xirnium
Kahanistan
**Hailandkill

Amestria
Amestria
Red Tide
The Lone Alliance

Unknown or neutral
McKagan
Yallak
Halbergardia
Southeast Asia

**I have been in talks with HaK but the Imperial Republic is part of the SWC which is unknown.

I'd like to add Independent Montana, The Black Hand of Nod, and Leafanistan to Unknown/Neutral/Self-Aligned.

McKagan, where did those dreadnaughts come from. They just kind of showed up.

For a while McKagan bordered me/in same region so we should be somewhere in the North Pacific.

However he has said he was in the South Atlantic. Though I don't mind him using the Panama Canal or sailing around South America. Perhaps he should push back their deployment a few days.

I'd like to add Independent Montana, The Black Hand of Nod, and Leafanistan to Unknown/Neutral/Self-Aligned.
Added.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10197349&postcount=1635

-snip-
I don't mind the arrival, just there was no clue the ships were anywhere around there or on their way (no secret IC orders or communications or anything).

Just to avoid confusion then, ages ago i gave secret IC orders for another fleet to move from Stoddenia to Torontia: they'll have been waiting further out to see for a long time i guess now but they are there (400 ships) - sent incase Sarzonia turned hostile. I'll see if i cant find the post.

EDIT: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10055242&postcount=201

I remember reading it.

Found it:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10055242&postcount=201

Ooops. I forgot that time was a big issue in this RP. I'll push back the time that they get there for a while, in any instance.

The Saint Fedski List has several mistakes, here is the accurate list.

The Accurate List

Saint Fedski
Republic of New McFarland
Republic of North Saint Clair
Republic of Pink (Hogsweat Colony Region)
Republic of Communist Revolution
Kingdom of Thorns (Thornz)

Amestria
Amestria(me)
Red Tide
The Lone Alliance

SWC
McKagan
Halbergardia
Tannenmille
Leafanistan

Neutral
Xirnium
Kahanistan
Southeast Asia
Yallak
Hailandkill
The Macabees

Unknown
Independent Montana (controls Idaho)

Self-Serving
Black Hand of Nod (backing the Torontian Socialist Union, a Paramilitary Group/Political Party allied with the TPG and based mainly in BC)

Muahaha; I start class on the 17th, and have an hour of weight lifting mondays, wenesdays and fridays, with soccer for three hours on tuesday and thursday... the rest is academic classes [Bio, Math, Spanish..the usual].

Saint Fedski, can you post how many of the ships/planes in Torontia are controlled by McFarland, Saint Clair, and so on...(as it has been agreed by all concerned that "unified Commonwealth action" is really puppetry.)

Amestria, I believe classifying Holy Xirnium as neutral may be too strong, though it is true that they have not supported either side in this conflict. A better description of Holy Xirnium in the Torontian crisis would be non-belligerent, with the High Ecclesiarchy's ultimate agenda hidden.

I guess that could make them fit under self-serving or unknown. Officially, Holy Xirnium is neutral though.

Amestria, I believe classifying Holy Xirnium as neutral may be too strong, though it is true that they have not supported either side in this conflict. A better description of Holy Xirnium in the Torontian crisis would be non-belligerent, with the High Ecclesiarchy's ultimate agenda hidden.

I guess that could make them fit under self-serving or unknown. Officially, Holy Xirnium is neutral though.

:confused:

Choose the one you feel describes Xirniums position best: self serving, neutral, or unknown (know that these are public knowledge IC).

Leave it as it is, or simply classify it as non-belligerent, it doesn't really matter either way.

I believe non-belligerent equals neutral... For example, RL Fascist Spain aided the Third Reich but was non-belligerent in the conflict, therefore it was considered neutral...

Non-belligerent equal neutral...

Put me as currently neutral.

Put me as currently neutral.

Done...

Non-belligerent equal neutral...
Neutrality is a subset of nonbelligerence, not strictly the same thing. It is a more narrow definition of nonbelligerence, with special rights and duties. For example, neutrality requires impartiality, something nonbelligerence does not.

Either way it doesn't bother me if you put Holy Xirnium as neutral though, since you seem to be defining neutrality as nonbelligerence anyway.

Amestria, Leafanistan is a SWC member.

Amestria, Leafanistan is a SWC member.

Noted!

Saint Fedski, can you post how many of the ships/planes in Torontia are controlled by McFarland, Saint Clair, and so on...(as it has been agreed by all concerned that "unified Commonwealth action" is really puppetry.)
It was agreed that it was puppetry if I was to attack you. We had a lengthy discussion about it in this thread, by TG of course, and you did not have a problem with it. So we will say they are all Commonwealth.

Sf, Tg.

Replied.

Thanks. Let's keep the conversation going.

Tla, Tg!

It was agreed that it was puppetry if I was to attack you. We had a lengthy discussion about it in this thread, by TG of course, and you did not have a problem with it. So we will say they are all Commonwealth.

I don't understand what you mean...

Kahanistan, I've been reading your closed diplomacy thread with Amestria, and I must say al-Ghazi's anti-Amestria propaganda efforts would look rather attractive to the HCIA. Perhaps, if he is fired or is forced to flee the nation, he could come to exile in Halberdgardia? The HCIA would love to get their hands on him. If not, it's cool; I just didn't want to pass up a possible opportunity.

Lets face it, this OOC thread is too big, its become too hard to find stuff, so we should make a new one...

Yeah we need a new one.

Either of you could have made anew one then but never mind i'll do it now. The link to it will follow shortly

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=462538