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I don't find this clunkiness with writers from other countries, though. Do UK sci-fi writers tend to write for serials and magazines before having novels published? If not, would having a large influx of UK writers emigrating to the US create a shift that would dilute or remove the clunkiness from aspiring male US writers? An analogy would be south asian influence on British cuisine.

I wonder if, maybe, UK writers are less assuming of success? We do it more because it's 'what we do', maybe? And less for the promise of fantastic wealth...?

There ARE sci-fi magazines in the UK, but I seem to recall mostly that the 'big' circulators pretty much publish people that already have a name.

The other part - I'll have to get back to you on.... I'm a Brit, and I'm a writer, but I'm neither published nor famous, yet. :)

I never got into Rice that much (one of my courses in Uni when I did American Studies was "The American Horror Genre 1958-1984", and one week we studied both her and Nancy A Collins, which provoked my quite incisive remark that Anne Rice was a hippy writer whereas Nancy Collins was a punk one. Being 6 in 1977, you can understand where my sensibilities lie) - the first two or three were good but god did she go on. The risque stuff was...well, i've read much better porn, to be honest.

Love Atwood. Absolutely adore.

Was - and to a degree - still remain a big fan of Julian May - her "Saga of the Exiles" and then the Galactic Mileu trilogy/quatrology have a big place in my heart.

McEwan is the bomb. Big fan. Also of roughly that generation, Kurieshi. Was a big fan of Ellis, but i've switched round, i find the emotional blankness of his work a bit of a cop out.

And Behold the Man? Absolute classic. I was a big fan of certain elements of the Eternal Champion series (Corum and Hawkmoon, to be honest, i never really fancied the whole Elric thing - although the "Elric at the End of Time" book of stories does feature his own masterful destruction of the very mythos he'd helped create, with the story "The Stone Thing", first time i read it i howled with laughter). But the real meat was the Jerry Cornelius and the Dancers at The End of Time stories. Masterful.

No - I'm not a big fan of Rice... she has good moments, but she also has extended periods of writing almost painful sludge. Give me Tepper, any day.

The Saga of the Exiles, and the Millieu books are certainly the highpoint of May. I have to admit, I got bogged down in her Ramparts books, and I don't think I ever finished the series.

Ellis, for me, was too clinical - but the symbols were good.

Oh... and 'ha!'... I see why we share reading sensibilities, perhaps... you are just two years my senior... :)

No - I'm not a big fan of Rice... she has good moments, but she also has extended periods of writing almost painful sludge.

I thought the vampire cronicles were fairly interesting and an excellent take on the whole thing. I enjoyed reading them, mostly. However, sometimes she seems to be more concerned with describing something than telling or advancing a story. The Vampire Armand was so absolutely ridiculous that I just had to put it down and I really wanted to hear the story. I haven't read any of her books since.

I thought the vampire cronicles were fairly interesting and an excellent take on the whole thing. I enjoyed reading them, mostly. However, sometimes she seems to be more concerned with describing something than telling or advancing a story. The Vampire Armand was so absolutely ridiculous that I just had to put it down and I really wanted to hear the story. I haven't read any of her books since.

I think, in general, the Vampire stories MIGHT be her lowest ebb... well, Armand and Interview, certainly.

Shame really - because I'm big into vampire stuff, so I'd had high hopes... also, one of those rare occassions that the 'movie adaptation' HOSES the book (Interview).

I think "Pandora" was the one Vampire book I had much time for, and other than that "Servant of the Bones" and "The Mummy" were the high points.

I haven't yet read "CHRIST THE LORD: Out of Egypt"... but I find it curious that her career started in gay-porn, and she's now writing about... Jesus?

I think, in general, the Vampire stories MIGHT be her lowest ebb... well, Armand and Interview, certainly.

Shame really - because I'm big into vampire stuff, so I'd had high hopes... also, one of those rare occassions that the 'movie adaptation' HOSES the book (Interview).

I think "Pandora" was the one Vampire book I had much time for, and other than that "Servant of the Bones" and "The Mummy" were the high points.

I haven't yet read "CHRIST THE LORD: Out of Egypt"... but I find it curious that her career started in gay-porn, and she's now writing about... Jesus?

Did you read Memnoch the Devil? I found it really interesting. To be fair, I read it when I was much younger, but I liked it.

On the subject of 'not thinking clearly'....

Some people don't appreciate quite how important the 'bottom-line' might be to big business.

Sure - if there were no cheap immigrants, big business would do something about their payscale-versus-employable-staff.... but you somehow overlook the 'bottom-line'.

By which I mean... if X-Brand chicken-packers pay $3 an hour now, and the standard wage is $10... X-Brand chickens is simply going to move their packing-plant across the border, and pay lower wages elsewhere.

If they are going to be doing the jobs (for sub-par wages at that) anyway they may as well be doing them in their own countries.

If they are going to be doing the jobs (for sub-par wages at that) anyway they may as well be doing them in their own countries.

Which is irrelevent to the debate. The simple point is - it would not 'return' jobs to the American workfroce - it would just relocate industry across the border.

And - if you think that unimportant in terms of the impact it would have on the US... you might want to consider the fact that many municipalities in this nation, can ONLY afford to provide thinks like electricity and water to the citizens... BECAUSE of industrial demands.