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*looks at location*

Don't say that! :(

I doubt anything will happen, but both cities (and DC) are prime targets.

-200 points is bad. not recession bad, but bad.

Not to sound overly capitalist, but now is the perfect time to buy, help your country's ecconmy and make some money

Is that good or bad....? I assume by "bugger" its bad, but I have no clue.
If the FTSE went down 200 points in one day that would be extremely bad, so for it to do that in 3 hours...

This is a indirect attack on the G8 summit Im assuming. These cowards couldnt get close to the world leaders in Scotland. So they picked the next obvious target in the UK. Hope they find exactly who is responsible. To many times we here the radical clerics in London calling for a jihad against the UK. Maybe this time these people will be taken care of. Prays with everyone involved.

-200 points is bad. not recession bad, but bad.

They'll suspend trading soon if it continues to fall.

I doubt anything will happen, but both cities (and DC) are prime targets.

Yeah, I know.

Blair is leaving the G8 in a few hours to return to London.

If the FTSE went down 200 points in one day that would be extremely bad, so for it to do that in 3 hours...

If the market fell 200 points in a week it would be bad.

THE MARKETS 11:54 UK
FTSE 100 5025.5 -204.10
Dax 4453.5 -162.02
Cac 40 4093.3 -186.61
Dow Jones 10270.7 -101.12
Nasdaq 2068.7 -10.10
S&P 500 1194.9 -10.05
BBC Global 30 5337.9 -8.43
Bugger....
Oh no, the markets fell! What a terrible thing! Oh my god, there goes some of our money! NOOOO! </sarcasm>
I think the fact that at least two people are dead is a tad more important than the markets.

Not to sound overly capitalist, but now is the perfect time to buy, help your country's ecconmy and make some money

That's probably a good call.

*Claps*Blair has it right. He's doing everything right. Well done indeed. Now, we wait for Sanctaphrax

thoughts and prayers with the victims and families...
He's going to leave the G8 in a few hours and go down to London to get info, then return this evening.
The G8 will go ahead anyway.
All leaders in the G8 share our resolution to defeat the terrorism.
It is reasonably certain that it is a terrorist attack, aimed at the start of the G8.
The terrorists determination to cause death and destruction is not as big as our determination to keep up our daily lives.

Both ABC and SBS have live feeds from BBC right now. I assume so.
EDIT: And Nine has CNN.

Thanks, just saw it.

Excellent speach Tony...you are correct to say that we wont be beaten by these bastards.

RULE BRITANIA

All right. Blair's done.

thoughts and prayers with the victims and families...
He's going to leave the G8 in a few hours and go down to London to get info, then return this evening.
The G8 will go ahead anyway.
All leaders in the G8 share our resolution to defeat the terrorism.
It is reasonably that it is a terrorist attack, aimed at the start of the G8.
The terrorists determination to cause death and destruction is not as big as our determination to keep up our daily lives.

I confirm all of this

Good on Blair. Bad on al-quieda abd the G8 who have the audacity to continue it without him.

Excellent speach Tony...you are correct to say that we wont be beaten by thses bastards.

RULE BRITANIA

Please, don't turn this into a flag waving thread. Just feel for the people affected by it specifically

Good on Blair. Bad on al-quieda abd the G8 who have the audacity to continue it without him.

No, the G8 is going ahead when he gets back tonight. He is the chairman, it can't go on without him

Oh no, the markets fell! What a terrible thing! Oh my god, there goes some of our money! NOOOO! </sarcasm>
I think the fact that at least two people are dead is a tad more important than the markets.

Dude, I am only report the f*****g news, I've got mates in the middle of london RIGHT AT THIS BLOODY MOMENT, so if you don't mind cut me a little slack.

Respect for Blair, leaving the G8. Exactly the right thing to do.

i've never heard Blair speak with such sincerity

Do you think that it has something to do with the fact that London is holding the games in seven years? Sounds fishy to me.

No, the G8 is going ahead when he gets back tonight. He is the chairman, it can't go on without him

Is it? My apologies if i'm wrong.

Please, don't turn this into a flag waving thread. Just feel for the people affected by it specifically
Flag waving after such an attack is a very appropriate act of defiance. Let him wave whatever he feels like waving.

Bad on al-quieda abd the G8 who have the audacity to continue it without him.
It was his idea that they go ahead - he's gonna be back in the evening. He reckons eliminating global poverty is too important to be held back by this.

Do you think that it has something to do with the fact that London is holding the games in seven years? Sounds fishy to me.

Been suggested, and ignored. No chance at all. G8 starts today, perfect time to strike

No, the G8 is going ahead when he gets back tonight. He is the chairman, it can't go on without him
I understood that its going to go on in his absence.....

Do you think that it has something to do with the fact that London is holding the games in seven years? Sounds fishy to me.

you think this is a trial run for creating mayhem in the middle of the Olympics?

Is it? My apologies if i'm wrong.

Considering Britain is G8 President this time round

Flag waving after such an attack is a very appropriate act of defiance. Let him wave whatever he feels like waving.

I'll go get my swastika.

Do you think that it has something to do with the fact that London is holding the games in seven years? Sounds fishy to me.

Actually, it was for the start of the G8 but the fact that London got the games yesterday adds to the attack.

I understood that its going to go on in his absence.....

that's what Blair said - it will continue

I understood that its going to go on in his absence.....
Maybe I misinterpreted. I would think that to go ahead without the chairman would be slightly foolish

...Sounds fishy to me.
Couldn't have been organised that quickly. Blair says it was mainly to coincide with G8. Which makes sense.

you think this is a trial run for creating mayhem in the middle of the Olympics?
Why do it now? Why not wait seven years, then attack. Security will be through the roof now

Flag waving after such an attack is a very appropriate act of defiance. Let him wave whatever he feels like waving.
Here Here! One thing we Brits are good at is defiance!

It was his idea that they go ahead - he's gonna be back in the evening. He reckons eliminating global poverty is too important to be held back by this.
He has a point - one person dying every 3 seconds because of poverty, hunger, etc, is rather more important than London being brought to a standstill and 2 people dying (I'm aware that there will probably be more, but that's the confirmed figure right now).

you think this is a trial run for creating mayhem in the middle of the Olympics?

I think the suggestion is more like anger over London being picked.

But I agree. The G8 has to be the motivation.

AQ-Europe just released a statement on the web claiming responsibility.
They're translating it.

aparently there is an unconfirmed statement claiming responsibility by Al queada

Why do it now? Why not wait seven years, then attack. Security will be through the roof now

i think it's impossible to keep a very high level of security all the time - i maybe wrong

There's a 'rescue mission' underway at Kings Cross apparently.

AQ-Europe just released a statement on the web claiming responsibility.
They're translating it.
Can you get a link?

Thankyou to those who have riterated Blair's words. His actions have given me more respect for him, I hope he'll continue to react rationaly.

Dude, I am only report the f*****g news, I've got mates in the middle of london RIGHT AT THIS BLOODY MOMENT, so if you don't mind cut me a little slack.

I know. To be honest, the stock market is actually quite important, but not the most important issue. So if any other communist tossers want to have a go I'll stand with you and tell them to piss off.

i think it's impossible to keep a very high level of security all the time - i maybe wrong
It's not... it just costs more

Dude, I am only report the f*****g news, I've got mates in the middle of london RIGHT AT THIS BLOODY MOMENT, so if you don't mind cut me a little slack.
Sorry mate. I have relatives in London too, so I know how you must be feeling. Just anger and worry lashing out there... Sorry again. I wasn't havin a go at you, I just felt that people being hurt was more important than money.

Charles Clarke will be making a speech at quarter past.

I wasnt intending to offend when I posted, I am sitting here with tears running down my face watching the news, my family comes from London, although I am sure that no one I know is involved in this terror, I remember how it felt when the IRA were doing this....please accept my apologies if I have upset anyone.

i also think that while this maybe linked to G8, all the capitals of the west will be attacked at some time

Maybe I misinterpreted. I would think that to go ahead without the chairman would be slightly foolish
Couldn't Gordon Brown (as the prime minister in waiting) chair it?

Do you think that it has something to do with the fact that London is holding the games in seven years? Sounds fishy to me.
I doubt it was the French, if that's what you mean. I don't think it has anything to do with it, it takes more than one day to plan and carry out something like this.

Couldn't Gordon Brown (as the prime minister in waiting) chair it?

I don't think so. As he's in London, or so I believe

There's a 'rescue mission' underway at Kings Cross apparently.
Yes, the BBC just mentioned it. There's people still stuck on one train, which is still in a tunnel.

Can you get a link?
No, comes straight from BBC-TV to my ear.

There still are people trapped in King's Cross, and the police reckons it's seven blasts alltogether.

I wasnt intending to offend when I posted, I am sitting here with tears running down my face watching the news, my family comes from London, although I am sure that no one I know is involved in this terror, I remember how it felt when the IRA were doing this....please accept my apologies if I have upset anyone.

No don't worry. I remember the IRA in Manchester. Bloody awful it was. Hope your family are okay.

http://www.mikelynaugh.com/SupportTheTroops/Thumbs/tn_IMG_3567.jpg

i also think that while this maybe linked to G8, all the capitals of the west will be attacked at some time

Unlikely. They just need to strike one to get all he others worried. Creating fear is their goal.

Let's show them that wea re NOT afraid!

i also think that while this maybe linked to G8, all the capitals of the west will be attacked at some time
Capitals and main cities, but not of the west, but of those allied to the US in their "war on terror". It has been said so especifically by al-Qaeda: they're going to attack US and allies, not others.

No, comes straight from BBC-TV to my ear.

There still are people trapped in King's Cross, and the police reckons it's seven blasts alltogether.

I didnt hear the first part.

And yes, I heard about Kings X

Yes, the BBC just mentioned it. There's people still stuck on one train, which is still in a tunnel.

It must be so awful on those trains. I can't imagine it.

It's not... it just costs more

i would argue that for the majority, psychologically it IS difficult. The further away from an attack in time the more relaxed people become.

Police are only people - even if they are highly trained and have a job to do

BBC showed nine, and it seemed like there were lots of wounded still in King's Cross.

Sorry mate. I have relatives in London too, so I know how you must be feeling. Just anger and worry lashing out there... Sorry again. I wasn't havin a go at you, I just felt that people being hurt was more important than money.

Charles Clarke will be making a speech at quarter past.

Yeah I know what you were meaning...no worries...I've just had a couple of emails and one text. One of em was walking away from kings cross, heard a crash, but had his stereo on so didn't think much of it and kept on going. he's been watching the news on a tv at a electronics shop since then.

EDTI: I meant to say from friends...

i would argue that for the majority, psychologically it IS difficult. The further away from an attack in time the more relaxed people become.

Police are only people - even if they are highly trained and have a job to do

But the Olympics is too obvious a target. The security there is huge anyway

http://www.mikelynaugh.com/SupportTheTroops/Thumbs/tn_IMG_3567.jpg

I echo the statement.

I didnt hear the first part.
Maybe I imagined it, but they were saying the name of the guy and organisation (I can't remember, it was Arabic), that it was 200 words, and that they would translate it.

Maybe I imagined it, but they were saying the name of the guy and organisation (I can't remember, it was Arabic), that it was 200 words, and that they would translate it.

Maybe, considering I've had the news on in front of me for the past three hours

No don't worry. I remember the IRA in Manchester. Bloody awful it was. Hope your family are okay.

I was there in Manchester on the day, the glass that poured down from teh sky was at the same time beautiful as the sun caught it but horrifying at the same time... :(

Yes, the BBC just mentioned it. There's people still stuck on one train, which is still in a tunnel.

They are fairly certain there are more fatalities on that train at King's Cross.

I've just woken up to this horrible news. I'm so sorry.

My prayers are with the people of the UK.

Couldn't have been organised that quickly. Blair says it was mainly to coincide with G8. Which makes sense.
No, but it could have been organised a year ago, when Paris and London were the leading bids, and planned attacks in both, but only planned to put one in action. When London won, they went for London.

I work at the hospital closest to Kings Cross. A blown-up bus can be seen from the 14th floor. Our first major incident alert informed us there were 16 dead at Kings Cross. "nd hand reports from Tavistock Square say there are bodies all over the pavement.

I was in the ER briefly, only saw one person covered in soot but otherwise unwounded. My department was busy shipping painkillers and dressings to the ER.

They are fairly certain there are more fatalities on that train at King's Cross.

My mum's been crying her eyes out. Grandma just rang, thought i was coming home today. I would've been on that train... makes you think about your own mortaility. My condolences to everyone out there

I work at the hospital closest to Kings Cross. A blown-up bus can be seen from the 14th floor. Our first major incident alert informed us there were 16 dead at Kings Cross. "nd hand reports from Tavistock Square say there are bodies all over the pavement.

I was in the ER briefly, only saw one person covered in soot but otherwise unwounded. My department was busy shipping painkillers and dressings to the ER.
Thanks for telling it like it is.

I'm on vacation this week, and I do feel a little bit better not going into NYC today or tomorrow like I normally would.

I'll be back in on Monday, of course. Still, it gives one the heebie-jeebies, especially going into Grand Central Station.

I was there in Manchester on the day, the glass that poured down from teh sky was at the same time beautiful as the sun caught it but horrifying at the same time... :(

Hope you're ok :D

I just can't understand why they'd do this. Sure, we helped in Iraq, but we're a tolerant and multicultural nation, especially in London. :(

I've just woken up to this horrible news. I'm so sorry.

My prayers are with the people of the UK.

thanks! there are those in great need of it - like the guy who was taken out of an ambulance covered in blood and they were giving him artificial respiration

i hope he's ok...

I saw one of the buses on TV - the whole top of it has been torn off. I don't know what to say. My thoughts are with those who have been and will be affected.

From Met Police Website

Major Transport Incident

At approx 08:50 on 7.7.05 we were called to Aldgate LT stn to assist the City of London police and BTP regarding an incident on the underground system.

All of the emergency services are on scene.

This has been declared as a major incident.

Too early to state what has happened at this stage.

There have been further reports from multiple locations in London of explosions. It is too early to say what has caused these explosions.

Police are responding to reports from:

Edgware Rd
Kings Cross
Liverpool St
Russell Sq
Aldgate East
Moorgate underground stations.


Furthermore there has been a confirmed explosion on a bus in Tavistock Place.

The MPS, BTP, City of London Police are working together to ensure officers are deployed to each scene.

There have been reports of numerous casualties but it is too early to say numbers at this stage.

I work at the hospital closest to Kings Cross. A blown-up bus can be seen from the 14th floor. Our first major incident alert informed us there were 16 dead at Kings Cross. "nd hand reports from Tavistock Square say there are bodies all over the pavement.

I was in the ER briefly, only saw one person covered in soot but otherwise unwounded. My department was busy shipping painkillers and dressings to the ER.

Thanks for reporting it mate...

I'm on vacation this week, and I do feel a little bit better not going into NYC today or tomorrow like I normally would.

I'll be back in on Monday, of course. Still, it gives one the heebie-jeebies, especially going into Grand Central Station.

take good care of yourself!

No, but it could have been organised a year ago, when Paris and London were the leading bids, and planned attacks in both, but only planned to put one in action. When London won, they went for London.

Indeed it could, but what would be the point of attacking london just because they got the olympics?

No, but it could have been organised a year ago, when Paris and London were the leading bids, and planned attacks in both, but only planned to put one in action. When London won, they went for London.
Why carry out one when you can have twice the carnage for the same price?

Sky News heard it from BBC who heard it from Arab sources states that it was more than likely Al Qaeda.

Is this the fastest growing thread here?

Hope you're ok :D

I just can't understand why they'd do this. Sure, we helped in Iraq, but we're a tolerant and multicultural nation, especially in London. :(

Can you imagine the possible lynchings that are going to take place in oldham, bradford (my uni town) and various other places now :(

Maybe I imagined it, but they were saying the name of the guy and organisation (I can't remember, it was Arabic), that it was 200 words, and that they would translate it.

I heard it aswel

Is this the fastest growing thread here?

Proberly

I just can't understand why they'd do this. Sure, we helped in Iraq, but we're a tolerant and multicultural nation, especially in London. :(

Because the terrorists are NOT a tolerant, multicultural group.

That doesn't enter into their calculus. They're the Arabic KKK.

Sky News heard it from BBC who heard it from Arab sources states that it was more than likely Al Qaeda.

ABC and FOX News are both saying a group affiliated with Al-Qaeda that I cannot spell.

Is this the fastest growing thread here?
It is...to think that it started with an "electrical fault" 20 something pages ago...

It is...to think that it started with an "electrical fault" 20 something pages ago...

Yeah...

Can you imagine the possible lynchings that are going to take place in oldham, bradford (my uni town) and various other places now :(
I hope not!

Just in case anyone wants it, Al Jazzir's english language site adress is below

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E4D19123-9DD3-11D1-B44E-006097071264.htm

If anyone finds that website they're talking about, tell us. I'd like to know what that's about.

Twenty-three pages in two hours. Certainly shows how much people care.

Can you imagine the possible lynchings that are going to take place in oldham, bradford (my uni town) and various other places now :(
Didn't think about that...the BNP will probably have a field day with this.

I was just listening to some of the commentary on the BBC and one guy thinks the aim of this attack was not to kill many people as only 2 are confirmed dead at the moment, which is nothing like the attack in Madrid or New York. He thinks the aim was to shut down the transport system and create fear in the minds of people all over London which is exactly what they did, thoughts?

ABC and FOX News are both saying a group affiliated with Al-Qaeda that I cannot spell.

Well... Fox News is broadcasting Sky News Footage and Fox News said that Sky News heard through BBC who learned it through Arab Sources that it was Al Qaeda. Wether it was an affliate or not doesn't matter. Any group affiliated with Al Qaeda means that Al Qaeda is guilty.

Didn't think about that...the BNP will probably have a field day with this.

Yeah, they will

I said it before, and I'll say it again.

Their aim is to destroy Western Civilization. This attack is clearly aimed at the G-8 - you couldn't find a better symbol of Western Civilization than the G-8 (not to mention the UK).

This isn't just about al-Qaeda vs. the US. This is about al-Qaeda vs. Western Cvilization. Period.

This is the terrorist version of a wake-up call.

My prayers and condolences to the dead, the wounded, and to their families and friends. It is only through our vigilance and action in foresight of future events such as these that we can assuage those who survive that they did not die in vain.

I doubt it was the French, if that's what you mean. I don't think it has anything to do with it, it takes more than one day to plan and carry out something like this.

You're probably right. I should think it had more to do with the G8 summit than anything else.

Or memorable dates. It's 7/7.

Well... Fox News is broadcasting Sky News Footage and Fox News said that Sky News heard through BBC who learned it through Arab Sources that it was Al Qaeda. Wether it was an affliate or not doesn't matter. Any group affiliated with Al Qaeda means that Al Qaeda is guilty.

I guess Al-Qaeda likes to wait a few weeks to claim responsibility.

The '90 casualties' figure is only from Aldgate East station. Considering they still don't know the extent at King's Cross, this could easily reach 500+

Can you imagine the possible lynchings that are going to take place in oldham, bradford (my uni town) and various other places now :(

yeah - and yet most people are ok no matter what colour or creed they are. Frightened and angry people will not stop to think

-snip-
I would hope so. If AQ-Europe employs that tactic, that's "good" news.

I was just listening to some of the commentary on the BBC and one guy thinks the aim of this attack was not to kill many people as only 2 are confirmed dead at the moment, which is nothing like the attack in Madrid or New York. He thinks the aim was to shut down the transport system and create fear in the minds of people all over London, thoughts?
Most likely true. Not to injure, but to scare. Imagine it. If they can do this, the fear it would cause worldwide. Already, France and Germany are locking down. US will follow, and most likely the rest of Europe.

There are many more dead than 2, at the moment they are trying to stop panic and they also dont like to report it until it is 'officially' confirmed, they say 7 explosions now though...eye witnesses are saying dead laying on the ground.

sigh ...

just .... sigh ....

I thought that Nick Riffin (That's his name, I think) was in custody for inciting racial hatred or something like that.

The BNP has been banging on about stuff like this for ages. By the time of the next elections, people will be thinking about how the government cleaned it up (for lack of a better phrase), not why it happened.

I was just listening to some of the commentary on the BBC and one guy thinks the aim of this attack was not to kill many people as only 2 are confirmed dead at the moment, which is nothing like the attack in Madrid or New York. He thinks the aim was to shut down the transport system and create fear in the minds of people all over London which is exactly what they did, thoughts?
Possibly...though the key phrase is 'confirmed dead' - there's going to be dozens more dead by the end of the day.
BBC tv - potential suicide bombing?

Most likely true. Not to injure, but to scare. Imagine it. If they can do this, the fear it would cause worldwide. Already, France and Germany are locking down. US will follow, and most likely the rest of Europe.

I do know that the US isn't on lockdown yet. US is not going to raise its terror alert and the trains are still running.

I said it before, and I'll say it again...
Wait a few hours before you get out the politics.

Some more information at this site:
http://europhobia.blogspot.com/2005/07/london-tube-explosions.html

Including a link to a picture of a blown up bus.

There have to be way more than 2 dead...

I was just listening to some of the commentary on the BBC and one guy thinks the aim of this attack was not to kill many people as only 2 are confirmed dead at the moment, which is nothing like the attack in Madrid or New York. He thinks the aim was to shut down the transport system and create fear in the minds of people all over London which is exactly what they did, thoughts?
Unfortunately, I think the death toll is going to rise. But, all terrorist attacks ae designed to inspire terror, so this will certainly help that...

...BBC tv - potential suicide bombing?

I wouldn't rule it out atm

I thought that Nick Riffin (That's his name, I think) was in custody for inciting racial hatred or something like that.

The BNP has been banging on about stuff like this for ages. By the time of the next elections, people will be thinking about how the government cleaned it up (for lack of a better phrase), not why it happened.
Nick Griffin

I flew out of London to Johannesburgh on 9/11 (my birthday) and they went into lockdown, worse than at anytime during the apathied years, figure they'll do the same as well as "the west"

I thought that Nick Riffin (That's his name, I think) was in custody for inciting racial hatred or something like that.

The BNP has been banging on about stuff like this for ages. By the time of the next elections, people will be thinking about how the government cleaned it up (for lack of a better phrase), not why it happened.
Nick Griffin...yeah, he's out on bail now, waiting for another hearing.

I do know that the US isn't on lockdown yet. US is not going to raise its terror alert and the trains are still running.

The cops are all over the subway stations here in Boston.

There are many more dead than 2, at the moment they are trying to stop panic and they also dont like to report it until it is 'officially' confirmed, they say 7 explosions now though...eye witnesses are saying dead laying on the ground.

if people are confirmed dead at the scene they are not going to move them until the living have been cared for

that's what we were taught at first aid if there were multiple casualties. Check around and find out who are the worst injured and deal with them first

The cops are all over the subway stations here in Boston.

All over the Metro here in DC, according to local radio.
Good thing I don't ride the Metro any more.

Wait a few hours before you get out the politics.
If WL gets out his politics now, I will go insane, track him down, and kill him. This is not the time nor the place

My MAJAX (major accident) alert at 10am said 16 confirmed dead at Kings Cross. That's just one of the explosions.

Possibly...though the key phrase is 'confirmed dead' - there's going to be dozens more dead by the end of the day.
BBC tv - potential suicide bombing?
Is that something you've heard?

The cops are all over the subway stations here in Boston.

As well as in NYC and in D.C. as well. The best thing to do right now is not show fear. That is the worst thing you can do.

if people are confirmed dead at the scene they are not going to move them until the living have been cared for

that's what we were taught at first aid if there were multiple casualties. Check around and find out who are the worst injured and deal with them first

Basic triage actually dictates that you deal with the quiet ones first. So long as someone is shouting or screaming, they are alive. I know it sounds callous, but thats the best way

All over the Metro here in DC, according to local radio.
Good thing I don't ride the Metro any more.

I can see like three crusiers parked outside Brighton Avenue station out my kitchen window.

Is that something you've heard?

I also heard it as well Kalmykhia.

Is that something you've heard?
We're probably not going to know how many, or even where, until the end of the day. It's more important for the emergency services to be helping people, rather than giving press conferences.

The Washington DC subway (Metro) has increased security.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8494550/

The nation's capital sent bomb-sniffing dogs and armed police officers to patrol subways and buses Thursday after a series of explosions on London transit systems.

Candace Smith, spokeswoman for the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority, said security was stepped up "immediately" in response to the rush-hour explosions in London.

Smith said police armed with machine guns were patrolling the city's trains and buses looking for anything suspicious. They were accompanied by bomb-sniffing dogs. Passengers were being urged to report any suspicious activity.

About 1.2 million people a day ride Washington's buses and trains.

Is that something you've heard?
It's just a theory at the moment. Suggested by a BBC reporter!

My MAJAX (major accident) alert at 10am said 16 confirmed dead at Kings Cross. That's just one of the explosions.
Thanks. You seem to have a better view than any of us here.
Keep updating if you can.

Is that something you've heard?
Yes, it was mentioned on the BBC coverage - it would be the first time such an attack has been made in Britain.
They've also just said that 'every Islamist Tom, Dick and Harry will be claiming this, but it's almost certainly the work of Islamist extremists.'

Anyone know when Charles Clarke is going to make his statement?

Basic triage actually dictates that you deal with the quiet ones first. So long as someone is shouting or screaming, they are alive. I know it sounds callous, but thats the best way

that's right and the quiet may be badly injured or dead. If they're dead just pass on cos nothing can be done

so i would expect the death toll to rise later today when the wounded have been dealt with

Nick Griffin...yeah, he's out on bail now, waiting for another hearing.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=377

already have an opinion

Anyone know when Charles Clarke is going to make his statement?
Not sure

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Our hearts, hopes and best wishes extend over land and water, to you in this dark hour. No pixellated characters on a screen can properly convey feelings of any sort, but know that the world stands alongside you at this time.

i don't know about suicide bombings. apparently it was more put a backpack on the bus or train and use a phone to blow it up. BBC.

that's right and the quiet may be badly injured or dead. If they're dead just pass on cos nothing can be done

so i would expect the death toll to rise later today when the wounded have been dealt with

Exactly right

I thought that Nick Riffin (That's his name, I think) was in custody for inciting racial hatred or something like that.

The BNP has been banging on about stuff like this for ages. By the time of the next elections, people will be thinking about how the government cleaned it up (for lack of a better phrase), not why it happened.
Nick Griffin, and yes he was.
Unfortunately, I think the BNP will get more votes than they ever dreamed of in the next election. Promise to declare war on any country in the middle east, crack down on all muslims, this is the kind of stuff that creates openings for parties like them.

This is the most paranoid, unintentionally hilarious, ridiculously uninformed statement I have read in years. Thanks for the laugh.
Might not be so hilarious anymore. Just saw the latest BBC report (or at least the latest down here) and its very highly possible it was a terrorist attack. There has been a statement from Al Queida (i dont know how to spell it) claiming responsibility but im not sure if its true or if thats a lie (the statement).

BNP gits.

Trying to capitalise on the deaths of the innocent is just as bad (almost) as doing it itself.

To all NSers, nonNSers, their friends, family and co-workers in London, UK:

Our hearts, hopes and best wishes extend over land and water, to you in this dark hour. No pixellated characters on a screen can properly convey feelings of any sort, but know that the world stands alongside you at this time.

Seconded

Sky News heard it from BBC who heard it from Arab sources states that it was more than likely Al Qaeda.
Wait for confirmation. It is probably Al-Q, but the UK has lots of people who like to blow things up and the G8 brings out everyone.

No matter who did this though...

May prayers and hope reach those who need them now.

I also heard it as well Kalmykhia.
Wooah... That's something new... Hadn't heard that one, it hasn't been on the news I've seen. An MSN buddy just told me it was on a bus...
I went up to check on the news, and flicked onto Ceefax. Ironically, in big writing at the top was "Major events from this day in History". I think this is going to be one of them.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=377

already have an opinion
Unbeleivable! They're already trying to make political capital out of this!

LONDON (AP) Police have reported "a number of fatalities" at one London subway station

Watching it live now on Sky News. It seems 5 bombs went off at Londoin Undergouind stations in north and central London. As the public evacuated the underground network a suspected suicide bomber blew up a Lodon Bus in Tavistock square. Only 2 confirmed dead but many more suspected.

On a personal note, I work on the overground trains and I'm leaving for work in an hour to take my train into London Victoria. These bastards won't stop me from changing my life or routine.

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Our hearts, hopes and best wishes extend over land and water, to you in this dark hour. No pixellated characters on a screen can properly convey feelings of any sort, but know that the world stands alongside you at this time.

*HUGS*

it's great to know that there are those who wish us well - and far outweigh in numbers those b*st*rds who want to blow the hell out of us

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Thirded

Wait for confirmation. It is probably Al-Q, but the UK has lots of people who like to blow things up and the G8 brings out everyone.

Well they struck the wrong city if they wanted to blow up the G8! They are in Scotland and not England

Watching it live now on Sky News. It seems 5 bombs went off at Londoin Undergouind stations in north and central London. As the public evacuated the underground network a suspected suicide bomber blew up a Lodon Bus in Tavistock square. Only 2 confirmed dead but many more suspected.

On a personal note, I work on the overground trains and I'm leaving for work in an hour to take my train into London Victoria. These bastards won't stop me from changing my life or routine.

I think all the trains in London have been shut down, I dont know if you'll be able to make that journey.

Unbeleivable! They're already trying to make political capital out of this!

|I know... it's classic BNP move

Unbeleivable! They're already trying to make political capital out of this!
Bastards. Two hours and they've turned this into their usual brand of hate.

Nick Griffin, and yes he was.
Unfortunately, I think the BNP will get more votes than they ever dreamed of in the next election. Promise to declare war on any country in the middle east, crack down on all muslims, this is the kind of stuff that creates openings for parties like them.
I'm not so sure - the next election is likely to be at least 4 years away. That's a long time for something like this to stay around. Maybe if there are more attacks in the next few years, but I don't think that will happen.

Well they struck the wrong city if they wanted to blow up the G8! They are in Scotland and not England
But the G8 isn't in the middle of a major city

Watching it live now on Sky News. It seems 5 bombs went off at Londoin Undergouind stations in north and central London. As the public evacuated the underground network a suspected suicide bomber blew up a Lodon Bus in Tavistock square. Only 2 confirmed dead but many more suspected.

On a personal note, I work on the overground trains and I'm leaving for work in an hour to take my train into London Victoria. These bastards won't stop me from changing my life or routine.

Don't travel into London unless you have to. You will just add to the problem.

Well they struck the wrong city if they wanted to blow up the G8! They are in Scotland and not England

I hope not, I live in Edinburgh now, and the police are dangerously inexperienced about dealing with protests, a bomb would really mess things up badly.

Unbeleivable! They're already trying to make political capital out of this!
Not actually so unbelievable - it's pretty much what I expected from them.

On a personal note, I work on the overground trains and I'm leaving for work in an hour to take my train into London Victoria. These bastards won't stop me from changing my life or routine.

*applauds*

Good for you! You have my sincere admiration, Ollieland.

But the G8 isn't in the middle of a major city
But it is close to Edinburgh, is it not?

Don't travel into London unless you have to. You will just add to the problem.
Met is advising ppl not to travel at all

Bastards. Two hours and they've turned this into their usual brand of hate.

Even reporting it shows how weak they are for trying a move like this

I think all the trains in London have been shut down, I dont know if you'll be able to make that journey.

Just Kings Cross and Liverpool Street closed down. Overgorund trains are still running. We have lots of experience of dealing with terrorist bombs in the UK, we don't stand for it and we do our damndest to resume normal life. The whole point of these terrorists is to disrupt. If you don't let them do that, they lose.

It was six bombs. Is anyone sure about the Confermation about the Al-Q statement?

7 blasts, 6 on tube one bus. Other attacks suspected to have been foiled.

2 dead confirmed, hundreds said to be wounded. More expected to die.

BASTARDS!

But it is close to Edinburgh, is it not?

Have you seen the security? Getting close to it would be asking to get shot or arrested or whatnot

SBS Australia:
At least 50 confirmed dead now.

I assume they get their news from BBC or so.

5 Minutes to Charles Clarke statement

http://silentcoder.co.za/tiki/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=2&postId=92

Don't read if you're hunting more information, the news sites are more up to date. Read if you want an opinion piece.

Well they struck the wrong city if they wanted to blow up the G8! They are in Scotland and not England

They don't care about that, C. It's the same country, and much easier to hit. :(

http://www.mikelynaugh.com/SupportTheTroops/Thumbs/tn_IMG_3567.jpg

Got to go now. If SET is running trains, I'll be on them. Remember, don't let them win. If you start getting scared to travel, by train, bus or plane, they win. Don't let them scare you off.

I can see like three crusiers parked outside Brighton Avenue station out my kitchen window.

I just dropped someone off at the riverdale Metro-North Station in NYC.

No cops. I would imagine Grand Central will have a few though, and it usually has National Guards on duty there.

SBS Australia:
At least 50 confirmed dead now.

I assume they get their news from BBC or so.
ONly two confimred. However, sources here say 16 are confirmed, due to working in hospitals

SBS Australia:
At least 50 confirmed dead now.

I assume they get their news from BBC or so.
Where'd that come from?
Not saying its wrong, but that a hell of a lot more than I last heard!

SBS Australia:
At least 50 confirmed dead now.

I assume they get their news from BBC or so.

Wow. Haven't heard that yet.

ONly two confimred. However, sources here say 16 are confirmed, due to working in hospitals
That was 16 just at Kings Cross - another 2 at Aldgate East.

That was 16 just at Kings Cross - another 2 at Aldgate East.


That makes 18 in total. However, final toll is likely to be much higher

Well they struck the wrong city if they wanted to blow up the G8! They are in Scotland and not England

They did not want to blow up G8. Think. They blew up London when the UK's two prime political leaders - Blair and Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II - were at the summit.

The security at G8 would have been fierce.

Perhaps they intended to disrupt the summit, but from what CNN says here, Blair and the Queen are headed back to England briefly for updates and to speak to the people, and the summit is continuing without them. It is, however, a disruption, and one that will make the other G8 members very nervous.

Okay. What The Hell Is Going On?

SBS didn't say where they'd pulled that from, and it seems a bit stupid.
Nonetheless, that was what they said...
I'm going back to BBC now.

Okay. What The Hell Is Going On?
Do you have access to any major network there?

EDIT: Like BBC, CNN etc

Okay. What The Hell Is Going On?
Find a Television.
That's probably your best bet right now.

Groups like al Queda's increased their intel. gathering on Britain, seeing that America is not as easy these days. Many suspect that the next major terrorist activity will occur in Britain. There has been a growing number of Britains leaving their country as a result.
Too true, My town used to boast a population of over 135,000, now theres just two of us left. We have it good though, the entire county of Kent left last week. The prime minister said on the news last night that at this rate it would just be him, me and and my nieghbour left by the end of the month.

SINGAPORE (AP) A spokesman for the Olympic committee says it still has full "full confidence" in London as the host of the2012 Games.

Terrorist hit london's Underground and busses

Check CNn or the BBC

That makes 18 in total. However, final toll is likely to be much higher

Yeah. There are a lot of critical injuries. :(

i was at live 8. i dont think we should let the lairy cunts over shadow the acheivements that have taken/are taking place within and alongside the g8. if we allow them to divert our attention from helping africa and the environment to playing some silly bugger cat-and-mouse game with them all across some random middle eastern country then the will of over 3 billion people will have been ignored.

Entire underground system closed

They did not want to blow up G8. Think. They blew up London when the UK's two prime political leaders - Blair and Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II - were at the summit.

The Queen is there too? First I've heard of that.

Perhaps they intended to disrupt the summit, but from what CNN says here, Blair and the Queen are headed back to England briefly for updates and to speak to the people, and the summit is continuing without them. It is, however, a disruption, and one that will make the other G8 members very nervous.

Ok thanks :)

Cowardly bastards.

My thoughts are, of course, with the people of London.

Okay. What The Hell Is Going On?
Quick summary - at least 7 explosions in central London, 6 on the underground, 1 on a bus. 2 confirmed dead by BBC at Aldgate East, possible 16 others dead at Kings Cross. Hundreds (most likely) injured. Thought to be the work of Al-Qaeda or an AQ affiliate.
But go to the BBC, Sky, CNN websites, or turn on a TV.

The TV programmes are still airing normal programmes. But on a local newspaper site the instant news are showing the details.

Look, I just made the decision to move to London in September. Maybe not now?

Too true, My town used to boast a population of over 135,000, now theres just two of us left. We have it good though, the entire county of Kent left last week. The prime minister said on the news last night that at this rate it would just be him, me and and my nieghbour left by the end of the month.

Get out. Get out now. This is not something to be joked about

Clarke's statement is gonna be at 1:15.
EDIT: Take that back - he's talking now!

They did not want to blow up G8. Think. They blew up London when the UK's two prime political leaders - Blair and Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II - were at the summit.

The security at G8 would have been fierce.

Perhaps they intended to disrupt the summit, but from what CNN says here, Blair and the Queen are headed back to England briefly for updates and to speak to the people, and the summit is continuing without them. It is, however, a disruption, and one that will make the other G8 members very nervous.

I also imagine that a dozen or so Muslims in Scotland would stick out a bit...

http://www.mikelynaugh.com/SupportTheTroops/Thumbs/tn_IMG_3567.jpg

My condolences to the people of London. This is just terrible. :(

Clarke's statement is gonna be at 1:15.
Happening now!

The Queen is there too? First I've heard of that.

Clarification: I believe she was at one of her residences in Scotland. She is traveling back to Buckingham, which has had its security stiffened.

Clarke's statement is gonna be at 1:15.
BS> He's talking now

Too true, My town used to boast a population of over 135,000, now theres just two of us left. We have it good though, the entire county of Kent left last week. The prime minister said on the news last night that at this rate it would just be him, me and and my nieghbour left by the end of the month.

and don't type with blue. your hurting my eyes.

Got to go now. If SET is running trains, I'll be on them. Remember, don't let them win. If you start getting scared to travel, by train, bus or plane, they win. Don't let them scare you off.
Although I would not travel into London at the moment (wouldn't want to be in the way), I second your thought. They can only win if we let them bey being afraid and changing the way we live. I lived in Britain during times of heightened IRA activity (Manchester, North Circular/A1 fllyover)), my girlfriend walked past the Wood Green bomb 3 minutes before its explosion and I always admired the way that Britain would not mentally give in!

This is the price we pay for freedom. There can be no absolute security. But we can prevent them from winning.

My thoughts go out to all Londoners and especially the families of the wounded and dead. I hope that all those waiting for news of friends and relatives will hear from them soon. I hope my realtives and friends are ok.

Clarification: I believe she was at one of her residences in Scotland. She is traveling back to Buckingham, which has had its security stiffened.

Ahh ok! Thanks again :)

my dad was supposed 2 b 2yrds from Aldgate East station. it was only coz the guy who was supposed 2 do a presentation in Farmbourgh that my dad wasnt there. My dad was sent 2 cover that presentation. Sum other poor person was covering my dad in London. I feel so sorry for them and their family. My prayers go out to them and all those involved/injured/affected/etc.

Clarke's statement is gonna be at 1:15.
Take that back - he's talking now!
Four explosions confirmed.
He's not in a position to give out details.
Do not know which organization is responsible.
First responsibility is to protect and support the public.
The underground is closed and will remain so for some time.
No buses in central London.
Overground services substantial delays. Some stations closed.
Airports opened normally.
People asked not to travel to Central London.

So they're shutting down the rails and severely curtailing the busses.

Get out. Get out now. This is not something to be joked about

and go where?

My office block is next door to the main hospital (the hospital is brand new, only been open 3 weeks). Most of the auxilliary staff (like me) are finding it hard to do the day to day work. Most of us want to be doing something to help. The casualties are still arriving here. From the stairs I can see lines of paramedics waitng to pick up from ambulances as they come in. The streets around the hospital have been cleared of traffic so it is eerily quiet except when there are sirens passing.

Communication here is still very chaotic. Mobile phone networks are still up and down with the pressure of use. One of the hospitals in my group has been evacuated as it sits on top of a Tube line but our main hospital is still rnning even though it is situated between 2 Tube stations and 5 Tube lines.

Are you surprised? I know I'm not

So who is this guy?

Clarke's statement:
4 confirmed explosions: one at Edgware Rd, one on bus at Tavistock Sq. one near Liv. St., one at Russell Sq.
Can't confirm numbers of casualties/fatalities.
Underground shut, certainly for rest of day
Buses in London
Overground train - substantial delays.
Stations will be reopened ASAP
Airports still open
Advising not to travel into London.
Blair returning to chair COBRA meeting

David Davis' response:
'unspeakable depravity and wickedness'
'entire House condemns them entirely'
Tories will give the govt full support on this 'attack on our society'.
Hopes G8 will not be disrupted - now is not the time for our lives to be disrupted by terrorists.

and go where?

Anywhere so long as people do not make jokes about this. People have died, many are injured. It is not a time for jokes

First, people with relatives etc in London - don't get too panicky. There's around 12 - 15 million people in London on any given day and nearly all of them will be unaffected. Priority on the mobile phone networks are given to emergency services during these situations, and that's the primary reason people can't get through.

Secondly, after a major incident, everyone gets jittery and the hoaxers get on the phones; the increase in bomb threats to other public places rises by several thousand % as a result of this but it isn't real.

As for those of you who think this is a major shock to the British system, think again. I've been around for 2 bombs in Manchester and a mortar attack on Heathrow airport, my sister was about 30 yards from a bomb blast in Warrington, my father has been present for 2 attacks in Manchester. It happens, we're used to it. If you give in, if you panic, if you curtail civil liberties, they've won because that's what they want.

SINGAPORE (AP) A spokesman for the Olympic committee says it still has "full confidence" in London as the host of the 2012 Games.

yes its a repeat but what did you expect from yahoo news alert IMs?

So who is this guy?
If you're talking about David Davis, he's the shadow Home Secretary (the Home Secretary of the Opposition).

:confused:
BBC just said only 4 explosions...
What's that all about?

Al Arabia is saying that it was an Jihad cell of Al Qaeda that pulled this off.

So who is this guy?
Charles Clarke: Home Secretary
David Davis: Opposition Home Secretary.

If you're talking about David Davis, he's the shadow Home Secretary (the Home Secretary of the Opposition).

The guy talking about the attack on Britain's way of life and so forth. I missed his name.

I guess there are cracks in Bush's "safer world". I'm not going to speculate on who's responsible. Many are saying Al-Q, but it seems too small for them and no suicide bombers and the Al-Q people don't consider it martyrdom unless you're there and scream out in Allah's name prior to the event.

Tough call.

Doesn't matter, though. Not yet, not right now. What matters is in keeping our thoughts on the injured that their physical and mental healing will come quickly and comfortably. Also with the bereived for the loss of their loved ones. Perhaps those responsible will be quickly found and brought to justice.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea/britain_explosions_al_qaida;_ylt=Ahg1Rg.SZ4V6nZhB1jTHcjZvaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Yahoo! News has something on the AQ link.

Anywhere so long as people do not make jokes about this. People have died, many are injured. It is not a time for jokes

i am not joking, everyone everywhere is at risk of terrorist attack, but widespread panic and exodus will not help matters.

I also imagine that a dozen or so Muslims in Scotland would stick out a bit...

http://www.mikelynaugh.com/SupportTheTroops/Thumbs/tn_IMG_3567.jpg


?????

Have you ever been to Scotland?????

Al Arabia is saying that it was an Jihad cell of Al Qaeda that pulled this off.

Organisations not involved always try to take credit to increase publicity. Don't believe it yet.

Are you surprised? I know I'm not


Yes actually, France and Britain both have large muslim populations that serve as recruiting grounds and sources of funds for Islamic conservatism (some of whom use terrorism). Attacking either of the two jeapodises a source of income and recruits pointlessly as it means the governments will crackdown.

:confused:
BBC just said only 4 explosions...
What's that all about?

Scotland Yard has only confirmed four explosions.

The guy talking about the attack on Britain's way of life and so forth. I missed his name.
Yeah. David Davis

The BBC for once seems to be a long way behind the news, or they are being asked to play it down. Even the Home Secretary is playing it down if he says there have been 4 explosions as I am aware of at least 5.

Latest rumour coming through is that a terrorist was shot at Canary Wharf.

I guess there are cracks in Bush's "safer world". I'm not going to speculate on who's responsible. Many are saying Al-Q, but it seems too small for them and no suicide bombers and the Al-Q people don't consider it martyrdom unless you're there and scream out in Allah's name prior to the event.

Tough call.

Doesn't matter, though. Not yet, not right now. What matters is in keeping our thoughts on the injured that their physical and mental healing will come quickly and comfortably. Also with the bereived for the loss of their loved ones. Perhaps those responsible will be quickly found and brought to justice.

They are saying that the bus explosion and perhaps one of the subway explosions were indeed suicide bombers.

From NERVUN's link:

"Rejoice, Islamic nation. Rejoice, Arab world. The time has come for vengeance against the Zionist crusader government of Britain in response to the massacres Britain committed in Iraq and Afghanistan," said the statement, which was translated by The Associated Press in Cairo.

The authenticity of the message could not be immediately confirmed.

"The heroic mujahedeen carried out a blessed attack in London, and now Britain is burning with fear and terror, from north to south, east to west," the statement said.

"We warned the British government repeated. We have carried out our promise and carried out a military attack in Britain after great efforts by the heroic mujahedeen over a long period to ensure its success."

"We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all crusader governments that they will receive the same punishment if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan," the statement went on.

It was signed: "The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe."

They did not want to blow up G8. Think. They blew up London when the UK's two prime political leaders - Blair and Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II - were at the summit.

The security at G8 would have been fierce.

Perhaps they intended to disrupt the summit, but from what CNN says here, Blair and the Queen are headed back to England briefly for updates and to speak to the people, and the summit is continuing without them. It is, however, a disruption, and one that will make the other G8 members very nervous.
The Queen is not a political leader. Never has been, Oliver Cromwell put paid to that.

The BBC for once seems to be a long way behind the news, or they are being asked to play it down. Even the Home Secretary is playing it down if he says there have been 4 explosions as I am aware of at least 5.

Latest rumour coming through is that a terrorist was shot at Canary Wharf.
They're being asked to play it down, I think

i was at live 8. i dont think we should let the lairy cunts over shadow the acheivements that have taken/are taking place within and alongside the g8. if we allow them to divert our attention from helping africa and the environment to playing some silly bugger cat-and-mouse game with them all across some random middle eastern country then the will of over 3 billion people will have been ignored.

?????

Have you ever been to Scotland?????

Nope. But how many can there really be at GLENEAGLES vs London?!?

They are saying that the bus explosion and perhaps one of the subway explosions were indeed suicide bombers.

Well ... then perhaps it was something by Al-Q ... hard to tell at this point.

i was at live 8. i dont think we should let the lairy cunts over shadow the acheivements that have taken/are taking place within and alongside the g8. if we allow them to divert our attention from helping africa and the environment to playing some silly bugger cat-and-mouse game with them all across some random middle eastern country then the will of over 3 billion people will have been ignored.

Didn't you put this already?

Ah yes, the Brits, those damn zionists.....?
Did they take a wrong turn somewhere and end up in London instead of Tel Aviv?

I thought that too...........(about the re posting of the G8 comment)

ok, G8 comments, I'll post them here again.

Ah yes, the Brits, those damn zionists.....?
Did they take a wrong turn somewhere and end up in London instead of Tel Aviv?

Maybe we'll never know

Is anyone seeing Blair talking agai?

The Queen is not a political leader. Never has been, Oliver Cromwell put paid to that.
Firstly, the monarch hasn't been involved in the politics of the country since George II (or III, not sure) interfered too much. Secondly, use black font, coloured will just make you unpopular, and it's likely people won't read your posts.

woops! got a bit caught up
sorry

Well ... then perhaps it was something by Al-Q ... hard to tell at this point.
Madrid was done with backpacks and mobile phones, and if it wasn't AQ, it was at least some Arabs, they blew themselves up in that apartment building later.
Or am I mixing things up?

Well they struck the wrong city if they wanted to blow up the G8! They are in Scotland and not England
You hit what you can get to, that's how this works. It's not a millitary strike after all.

Any case, my point being that while I remember 9/11 all too well, I also remember Oklahoma City and remember that the UK has had a number of explosions over the years.

Still feel that whomever is responcible should be caught and brought to justice.

I wonder what Bush will say.

Nope. But how many can there really be at GLENEAGLES vs London?!?

Saddly his remarks aren't that incorrect, outside of Edinburgh, Dundee and Glasgow there are very few non Scotish people. My partner is one of only 5 non whites in her family's home town, her, her mother, her sister, the local store owner and his wife and one exchange student.

Nope. But how many can there really be at GLENEAGLES vs London?!?

The reason London was hit is because it was easy and because terrorists believe that killing civilians will soften a nation's view of them whereas killing leaders will do the opposite.

Gleneagles might have been a bit more difficult at the moment, I grant you, but given that there's thousands of protestors gathered in the area currently, I don't think they'd have much difficulty remaining anonymous there.