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I just heard in the News that London's Underground is shut down after what could've been two bomb explosions?
Any news?

Well, CNN says it was a power surge.

Well, CNN says it was a power surge.
So does the BBC.

Groups like al Queda's increased their intel. gathering on Britain, seeing that America is not as easy these days. Many suspect that the next major terrorist activity will occur in Britain. There has been a growing number of Britains leaving their country as a result.

Maybe SBS is just a little too triggerhappy...
Usually they're not, so I trusted them.

Groups like al Queda's increased their intel. gathering on Britain, seeing that America is not as easy these days. Many suspect that the next major terrorist activity will occur in Britain. There has been a growing number of Britains leaving their country as a result.
Very funny!
The UK has been subject to terrorist attacks for years. London has had bombs go off countless times. You're luck if the British will stop work for one let alone leave the country! Oh and thanks you USA for funding those bombs for all those years.

Bad news always sells, especially given that the information isn't certain. That old trick always work.

Very funny!
The UK has been subject to terrorist attacks for years. London has had bombs go off countless times. You're luck if the British will stop work for one let alone leave the country! Oh and thanks you USA for funding those bombs for all those years.

I'm not talking about the IRA. What I meant was that al Queda's next headliner could come from Britain. Given that she's the dearest ally to America, even the British government would be worried.

Theres also been an explosion in russel square on a bus

I'm not talking about the IRA. What I meant was that al Queda's next headliner could come from Britain. Given that she's the dearest ally to America, even the British government would be worried.
Yes but the Uk has been dealing with terrorist threats for years and knows how to handle things. You're safer here than anywhere else. Well safer than other countries under threat.

We knew it was coming.... we just never knew when

There has been a growing number of Britains leaving their country as a result.

And of course you'd have sources for this information...

Bad news always sells, especially given that the information isn't certain. That old trick always work.
SBS doesn't sell anything. They don't have ads or anything (usually) - and pretty much all they bring is foreign language material.
In short, they're non-commercial.

Groups like al Queda's increased their intel. gathering on Britain, seeing that America is not as easy these days. Many suspect that the next major terrorist activity will occur in Britain. There has been a growing number of Britains leaving their country as a result.
This is the most paranoid, unintentionally hilarious, ridiculously uninformed statement I have read in years. Thanks for the laugh.

This is the most paranoid, unintentionally hilarious, ridiculously uninformed statement I have read in years. Thanks for the laugh.
You're right... but still, I'm glad I came home yesterday now

Reports coming in now of explosions on 3 different buses & an explosive device found on the tube system!

Latest from ITV, Sky, and I think BBC, but there have been two more bus explosions. Those who think this wasn't terrorism, go and shoot yourselves. Now

Reports of explosions on several buses around London.

There has been a growing number of Britains leaving their country as a result.

:rolleyes: Who may they be exactly?

All this going on the day after we win the 2012 olympics! Coincidence?

There has been a growing number of Britains leaving their country as a result.

Do you always talk such nonsense?

All this going on the day after we win the 2012 olympics! Coincidence?

I blame the French!

Talk about planning, blow the underground -> force people onto buses -> blow up the buses....

fuck :(

All this going on the day after we win the 2012 olympics! Coincidence?
If anything it's because of the G8 summit and Bush being in the country.

Cabinet is now meeting. No statement as of yet

If anything it's because of the G8 summit and Bush being in the country.
Um.... the G8 is in Scotland atm. What would be the point in blowing up things in London? Blow up Gleneagles, and get rid of Bush as well... hey, thats not a bad idea

If anything it's because of the G8 summit and Bush being in the country.
could be, but they're all meeting up in Scotland!

Apparently there's been fatalities.

If anything it's because of the G8 summit and Bush being in the country.

Bush is in scotland isn't he?

:rolleyes: Who may they be exactly?

I live in a Commonwealth country as there's been more immigrants from Britain in recent years. A survey was conducted asking whether it was related to terror fears and a number of them stated yes.

Apparently there's been fatalities.

I heard that. The latest bomb is said to have caused them

Apparently there's been fatalities.

BBC reports 1 fatality on 1 bus explosion.

I live in a Commonwealth country as there's been more immigrants from Britain in recent years. A survey was conducted asking whether it was related to terror fears and a number of them stated yes.
And the exact percentage of that was?

I live in a Commonwealth country as there's been more immigrants from Britain in recent years. A survey was conducted asking whether it was related to terror fears and a number of them stated yes.

yeah, still, it doesn't sound like we're leaving the country in droves, and besides, they probably had other reasons than just that...

Ahhh, crap. Thoughts and prayers out to all affected. :(

3 Bus explosions now

Um.... the G8 is in Scotland atm. What would be the point in blowing up things in London? Blow up Gleneagles, and get rid of Bush as well... hey, thats not a bad idea

Al-queda realized their operatives would most likely be murdered before they could carry out an attack if they went anywhere near a major Scottish city.

Alright, on TV there was just talk of a smouldering wreckage of a double-decker bus.

yeah, still, it doesn't sound like we're leaving the country in droves, and besides, they probably had other reasons than just that...

I never said the Poms are leaving in droves. Yes they had other reason, but it's also because of terror fears that it motivated their final step to departure. You think I'm being the comedian here?

Power Surge?? I just heard that three buses have blown up along with London.

Power Surge?? I just heard that three buses have blown up along with London.
This is real time - when he typed it, there was no news yet of busses.

I never said the Poms are leaving in droves. Yes they had other reason, but it's also because of terror fears that it motivated their final step to departure. You think I'm being the comedian here?

No, but your initial statement sounded a little forced.

Al-queda realized their operatives would most likely be murdered before they could carry out an attack if they went anywhere near a major Scottish city.
Don't talk BS. Al-Queda is among the best at going unnoticed. Didn't you see the violence in Gleneagles yesterday? And they wouldn't be murdered. They would be arrested. And Gleneagles isn't a major city.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4659093.stm

latest on web...

One bus has been ripped apart, reports of 2 others.

Don't talk BS. Al-Queda is among the best at going unnoticed. Didn't you see the violence in Gleneagles yesterday? And they wouldn't be murdered. They would be arrested. And Gleneagles isn't a major city.

That was just a bit of tongue-in-cheek humor based off my experiences in Glasgow, trying to lighten what promises to be a rather heavy situation.

No, but your initial statement sounded a little forced.

OK, I'll stop talking about the Poms. There's enough of 'em here because of the rugby.

That was just a bit of tongue-in-cheek humor based off my experiences in Glasgow, trying to lighten what promises to be a rather heavy situation.

It wasn't funny. At all

Assuming that this is terrorism - don't you think that the UK's anti-terrorism measures are a bit crap? And could someone please explain to me exactly how ID cards are going to prevent this kind of thing?

Um.... the G8 is in Scotland atm. What would be the point in blowing up things in London? Blow up Gleneagles, and get rid of Bush as well... hey, thats not a bad ideaThe point is : all the cops and security are in Scotland...

Al-queda realized their operatives would most likely be murdered before they could carry out an attack if they went anywhere near a major Scottish city.

Flashing kilts can cause death?! LOL! (Just kidding.)

Assuming that this is terrorism - don't you think that the UK's anti-terrorism measures are a bit crap? And could someone please explain to me exactly how ID cards are going to prevent this kind of thing?

Care to tell us what else it might be first?

It wasn't any terrorist attack. There was a power surge in a surge protector (really big fuse) on one of the tube control lines. The "bang" was the protector blowing.

It wasn't funny. At all

So much for lightening up...

Assuming that this is terrorism - don't you think that the UK's anti-terrorism measures are a bit crap? And could someone please explain to me exactly how ID cards are going to prevent this kind of thing?
1 How can you ever effectively defend public transport from determined terrorist attacks? After Tokyo/Madrid/countless times in Israel!

2 I agree with you on the ID card issue!

The point is : all the cops and security are in Scotland...
I am watching BBC. I can see police officers. What the Hell are you on? There are alot of ppl in Scotland atm, yes. But not the entire Met police force!

CNN are suggesting its an al queda attack

It wasn't any terrorist attack. There was a power surge in a surge protector (really big fuse) on one of the tube control lines. The "bang" was the protector blowing.

yeah caus that happens on buses....

So much for lightening up...

Yeah. It doesn't work in this case.

It wasn't any terrorist attack. There was a power surge in a surge protector (really big fuse) on one of the tube control lines. The "bang" was the protector blowing.

I would hate to think a fuse blowing (no matter how big) could cause the roof to explode off a bus. Yikes.

It wasn't any terrorist attack.
You wish. Check the link on the last page...

I'm not surprised. We should have been expecting this since 9/11

Link updates:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4659093.stm

Police have confirmed one explosion on a bus in london according to the BBC.

Link updates:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4659093.stm

Police have confirmed one explosion on a bus in london according to the BBC.

There have been three. The FTSE 100 has gone down 160 points in one morning... that's a hell of a lot. And these links are slow, because everyone is trying to look at them. BBC just confirmed 3 three explosions, timed at 10:52 on BBC 1

I'm not surprised. We should have been expecting this since 9/11

Yeah, and considering this is probably the most vulnerable part of london...

Assuming that this is terrorism - don't you think that the UK's anti-terrorism measures are a bit crap?

Assuming that this is terrorism (and the apparent explosion on a bus seems to indicate such), the problem for those who caused the blasts is that the British people are fairly used to an ongoing low level of terrorist violence. Such relatively minor incidents such as these are unlikely to have any real great impact.

As far as the PTA goes, yes, I do think they are a bit crap, but for probably different reasons to you: the 2005 act allows the UK to selectively ignore human rights legislation, and the PTA(NI) was always a shambles which was used/broken or ignored as the powers that be saw fit.

It wasn't any terrorist attack. There was a power surge in a surge protector (really big fuse) on one of the tube control lines. The "bang" was the protector blowing.
"The entire tube network has been closed and union officials have said their sources have told them there was at least one explosive device on the underground."
"An explosion was reported at 8.49am at Liverpool Street station and emergency services were immediately sent to the scene.
Explosions have also been reported at King's Cross and Aldgate"
From: http://www.itv.com/news/index_13569.html
That's not a power surge. And an explosion on a bus is certainly not a power surge

Yeah, and considering this is probably the most vulnerable part of london...
I'm glad I came home yesterday. This time yesterday, I was just coming into Kings Cross UNderground

There have been three. The FTSE 100 has gone down 160 points in one morning... that's a hell of a lot. And these links are slow, because everyone is trying to look at them. BBC just confirmed 3 three explosions, timed at 10:52 on BBC 1

All i can get is internet at owrk so thats all I can go by for now...

I am watching BBC. I can see police officers. What the Hell are you on? There are alot of ppl in Scotland atm, yes. But not the entire Met police force!I was just saying the focus on security is much on the G8 summit these days. Of course not ALL the cops are there. But it does make sense to attack when a part of the security forces is focused on another place.

I'm glad I came home yesterday. This time yesterday, I was just coming into Kings Cross UNderground

Same with my gf...but 48 not 24 hours ago...

I was just saying the focus on security is much on the G8 summit these days. Of course not ALL the cops are there. But it does make sense to attack when a part of the security forces is focused on another place.
Think about your words next time. Don't make broad, sweeping statements like 'All the cops are in scotland'

Also: "The National Grid, which supplies power to the Underground, said there had been no problems with its system which could have contributed to the incidents." - from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4659093.stm

Same with my gf...but 48 not 24 hours ago...

At least she's safe

...But it does make sense to attack when a part of the security forces is focused on another place.
Well I'm sure that played a small part in the planning of this, I would think it is mainly the symbolic value of this happening before the summit.

Also: "The National Grid, which supplies power to the Underground, said there had been no problems with its system which could have contributed to the incidents." - from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4659093.stm

And some eye witness reports:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4659243.stm

At least she's safe

Yeah, thank the god i don't technically believe in....

Sky News is reporting 3 explosions on buses across London.

Yeah, thank the god i don't technically believe in....

Same on the god thing.

We earned it. I told everybody it was a bad idea to follow Bush on his little crusade. And now it bites us on the arse.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4659093.stm

Now with map...

About 90 people injured at a place called Aldgate.
Roof of one bus blown out, bomb suspected to have been placed at the back on top level of a double decker bus.
Tables from a London Hotel used as strechers.
Bodys lying all over the ground.
Tony Blair to speak soon from Scotland.

There is no doubt about it, it's a terrorist attack and a well planed one.

Germany is suecuring it's railways as a result.

Now it's officially big enough to interupt normal programing in Australia...

About 90 people injured at a place called Aldgate.
Roof of one bus blown out, bomb suspected to have been placed at the back on top level of a double decker bus.
Tables from a London Hotel used as strechers.
Bodys lying all over the ground.
Tony Blair to speak soon from Scotland.

There is no doubt about it, it's a terrorist attack and a well planed one.

Germany is suecuring it's railways as a result.

I agree with all of this. Especially the bit about the terrorist attack. First explosion was at 8:49am on the Metropolitan Line. Middle of rush hour. Force people out of the tubes, and onto the buses. 9:45, Central London, Tavistock. Bus explodes. Coincidence? I think not

I'm not talking about the IRA. What I meant was that al Queda's next headliner could come from Britain. Given that she's the dearest ally to America, even the British government would be worried.
I Bliar, I mean.. Blair.. is probably shitting his pants now.

Eyewitness reports:
"People didn't really know what was going on, they were just huffing and puffing and saying how annoying it was," she said.

"People don't seem to be panicked, but there's so many police and ambulances coming into the areas. People are just concerned, and some are just annoyed at the delay."

Class! I love Londoners!

Photo of Russell Square bus!

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1188265,00.html

I Bliar, I mean.. Blair.. is probably shitting his pants now.
He's not flying back from Scotland. And I guess you don't like Blair, or Bush for that matter?

All Zone 1 - thats Central London for those of you who don't know - bus services have been suspended until further notice

government sources confirm 20 dead so far and BBC are saying 'multiple explosions'

Please pray to what ever god you may have, for the people of London especially those affected by this.

He's not flying back from Scotland. And I guess you don't like Blair, or Bush for that matter?
He's not coming back from Scotland? Yet Ken Livingstone is rushing back from Singapore!

The Mayor got his arse on a plane ASAP and is on his way to come to the rescue...

He's not coming back from Scotland? Yet Ken Livingstone is rushing back from Singapore!

No, he's not. Charles Clark is chairing the Cabinet atm, and Blair is to give an announcement from Gleneagles soon.

Germany is suecuring it's railways as a result.


Any link to the Germany railway story....i work next to a fing big station....

I never thought Al Q would be so stupid as to attack either Britain or France, we are such large contributers to their cause. All I can hope for is that the pillick Tony Blair will be forced to stand down as its his fault we backed Bush, and that this will not aid the ID card lobby.

Dad's just gone into work in canary wharf, and I can't get his mobile. Great.

Assuming that this is terrorism (and the apparent explosion on a bus seems to indicate such), the problem for those who caused the blasts is that the British people are fairly used to an ongoing low level of terrorist violence. Such relatively minor incidents such as these are unlikely to have any real great impact.


Having lived in London for most of my adult life, (though now in Norfolk), I have been caught up in several riots and been 'blown up' twice. The last one a huge explosion in Woodgreen North London, left me with shards of glass embedded in my back (mostly in my coat), unfortunately the police office close by got the full blast in his face but I was there to help and he was OK in the end.
The worst thing about that blast?
It ruinned the offices sticky buns! (Thats why I was out at that time, my turn)

My point is, these explosions aren't nice and they aren't funny, but it will probably be met with, "OH bugger....*sigh*.....thats gonna make getting into work a pain tomorow"

And by tomorrow it'll be 1984. Simply to live you'll need Clarke's permission...

Dad's just gone into work in canary wharf, and I can't get his mobile. Great.

Keep trying. What's his route? Does he drive?

Dad's just gone into work in canary wharf, and I can't get his mobile. Great.


Please don't panic too much, the mobile networks are down because of the volume of calls.

Now outside of London (Swinton?) there is a "security scare" at the trains.
No links, I pick this up from BBC live on TV.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1188285,00.html

slightly larger photo of the bus...

ouch :(

Dad's just gone into work in canary wharf, and I can't get his mobile. Great.

Try not to panic yet, the lines will be swamped.

Now outside of London (Swinton?) there is a "security scare" at the trains.
No links, I pick this up from BBC live on TV.

No TVs at work and the internet link is swamped.... :(

Now outside of London (Swinton?) there is a "security scare" at the trains.
No links, I pick this up from BBC live on TV.

Same. It's Swindon. And Brighton have also shut their station

Now outside of London (Swinton?) there is a "security scare" at the trains.
No links, I pick this up from BBC live on TV.

Swindon.

Try not to panic yet, the lines will be swamped.

Ta, will do :p

Swindon.

And Brighton and possibly stratford.

Sky News reports army out on the streets of Covent Garden!

Any link to the Germany railway story....i work next to a fing big station....
Sorry, I heard it on Sky News.

He's not coming back from Scotland? Yet Ken Livingstone is rushing back from Singapore!


OF course he's not coming back from the summit, it's an international meeting which, if I recall he's chairing (last part may no be true so correct me if I'm wrong). Hume is chairing the cabinet and reporting to parliament and Livingstone is the Mayor of London he was probably on his way back from Singapore anyway. Still what in the world can Blair do? He can do as much in Gleneagles as he can in London to help the situation; which is in both cases not a lot.

Blair's going to make a live televised statement at 12.

And by tomorrow it'll be 1984. Simply to live you'll need Clarke's permission...

Are you always this hysterical?

He's not coming back from Scotland? Yet Ken Livingstone is rushing back from Singapore!

Of course he isn't. Him leaving the G8 summit would be a great sign of weakness and would show that, if indeed this was a terrorist act, the world can be extorted to abort important meetings because of terrorists. His decision to stay is the correct one.

Sky News reports army out on the streets of Covent Garden!

Probably the bomb disposal units, rather than the start of Martial Law.

Now there is talk of sending the British Army to London, the Police cant handle all the work alone

My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of London.

Now there is talk of sending the British Army to London, the Police cant handle all the work alone

The Army is far better trained to deal with this

My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of London.

Thanks :)

Probably the bomb disposal units, rather than the start of Martial Law.
True - they've been saying for half an hour now that they're going to carry out a couple of controlled explosions

Probably the bomb disposal units, rather than the start of Martial Law.
No I very much doubt that as well! I think they're there as a security measure protecting the embassies etc.

Now there is talk of sending the British Army to London, the Police cant handle all the work alone

Okay, they are on London streets now.

Now there is talk of sending the British Army to London, the Police cant handle all the work alone


I think you'll find that half the Met (including my bro in the riot police) have been drafted up to Scotland.

These bastards know when to strike.

My office (nr Liverpool St) has been drowned out by sirens all morning.

I was lucky this morning - got the overhead into Liverpool St rather than the tube as I usually do.

Still waiting to hear from a mate though - he gets a bus daily into Russell Square.

Now there is talk of sending the British Army to London, the Police cant handle all the work alone

I think that is probably idle speculation. No doubt the logistic corps will be sent in becuase of their explosives expertise, but I can't imagine that martial law is about to be declared.

Plus the Met is a pretty huge force, there are bound to be tons of off duty officers that are being called up.

The Army is far better trained to deal with this
I agree.

This is a horror. My prayers go out for New Burmesia's father and all others whose loved ones are worrying and can't make contact.

My thoughts and prayers are with those affected, hurt or killed by the attacks.

I think you'll find that half the Met (including my bro in the riot police) have been drafted up to Scotland.

These bastards know when to strike.

My office (nr Liverpool St) has been drowned out by sirens all morning.

I was lucky this morning - got the overhead into Liverpool St rather than the tube as I usually do.

Still waiting to hear from a mate though - he gets a bus daily into Russell Square.
Given the publicity surrounding the G8, making this strike effective was basically handed to them on a plate

I think you'll find that half the Met (including my bro in the riot police) have been drafted up to Scotland.

These bastards know when to strike.

My office (nr Liverpool St) has been drowned out by sirens all morning.

I was lucky this morning - got the overhead into Liverpool St rather than the tube as I usually do.

Still waiting to hear from a mate though - he gets a bus daily into Russell Square.

Your lucky! Hope you find your friend well.

Six confirmed blasts.

Thanks :)

No problem! I hope you reach your loved one!

Now from what I've heard,

There are only 2 groups that could've done this: Al Qaeda and the IRA!

Six confirmed blasts.

That have caused 20 deaths and 80 wounded! :(

This is a horror. My prayers go out for New Burmesia's father and all others whose loved ones are worrying and can't make contact.

Apparently they've stopped all trains going into london, and according to his office, he should be on one of them.

Thankyou very much ofr your concern, i'm very grateful.

There is a striking resemblance to the Madrid train blasts. Virtually identical tactics. They say six or seven blasts, some on the underground trains and some on buses. The buses look just like the Israeli ones after suicide bombings- completely ripped apart. It can't be a "power surge" or anything other than a terror attack.

They just said at least 90 wounded.

No problem! I hope you reach your loved one!

Now from what I've heard,

There are only 2 groups that could've done this: Al Qaeda and the IRA!

It ouwld be the Real IRA these days. And I don't think they would give no warning... they noramally do. And why would they attack? No, this is Al Qaeda

There are only 2 groups that could've done this: Al Qaeda and the IRA!
The IRA hasn't done anything for years, and they haven't really said anything to suggest otherwise.

The Hilton is being set up to deal with trouble (Casualties I assume).

A bigwig from the Met was just on the BBC. Appently its now 1 'incident' involving a bus, and 5 at tube stations. He didn't like the word bomb, and asked the media to stop speculating until more was known.

Two minuts later the reporter on Sky was talking about booby traps waiting for the firemen in the tube!

There are only 2 groups that could've done this: Al Qaeda and the IRA!

Massively unlikely to be the Provos. The CIRA or the RIRA are a possibility, but a slim one, in my opinion.

That have caused 20 deaths and 80 wounded! :(

where did you get that info?

the info just given out on the BBC is that they are not saying how many because they don't know

Interesting these bombs should happen on the same day as the world has it's eyes on the G8....although perhaps Al-Qaeda had planned that the British Police would be busy at Gleneagles, and from latest reports (Swindon?!) they are trying to take out the railways.

If these attacks are really bad, Blair may declare emergency powers....then 1984 can begin.

My poor Nan. She lived through the Blitz, IRA bombings, and opposed the war on Iraq as I did. She lives in London.

London's a big place of course.

Latest news is many casualties reported. I remember the days of the IRA bombings. They gave warnings beforehand.

Chemical? Biological?

Bush and his f***ing wars and conquests. Blair and his f***ing wars. The CIA trained Bin Laden and his f***ing bombings. F**k em all.

If it is Al-Qaeda that is. Might be just what was needed for Blair to establish 1984 controls....

sorry...they've just said about 90 wounded

I agree, has to be Al Qaeda. Appears to have been quite well coordinated...

It ouwld be the Real IRA these days. And I don't think they would give no warning... they noramally do. And why would they attack? No, this is Al Qaeda

Personally I think its Al Qaeda too but for once, I'm not going to speculate on who did it at this point.

This was not what I was expecting when I woke up this morning. :(

*says a prayer for the people of London and for the United Kingdom in general*

No problem! I hope you reach your loved one!

Now from what I've heard,

There are only 2 groups that could've done this: Al Qaeda and the IRA!
Only Two Groups?? There are several groups that could have done this and Al Qaeda is on the top of that list. I doubt very much that the IRA has anything to do with this but they are an easy scapegoat, right?

Right, let's settle this. The chances of the Provos attacking are slim to none. So eliminate them. ETA... unlikely, they operate in Spain. Al-Qaeda... extremely likely they had a hand in it, even if they didn't carry out the attack directly

Bah, the skynews website is slow as snails. *sighs*

BBC 1 Just reported that Arab sources are saying that Al-Qaeda almost certainley commited these attacks.

The police have said there have been 6 explosions, and have confirmed 2 fatalities.
And the BBC have just had their Arab sources say it is 'almost certainly the work of Al-Qaeda'

It has to be al-queida (spelt wrong, but wtf do i care... :mad: ). The IRA have been quiet for years.

Apprently some arab networks have said it was al-qeida, according to the beeb.

Wow this thread moves fast. Sympathies to any in worry or grief.

Useful Links on the situation

BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

Google News
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659093.stm

XtraMSN
http://xtramsn.co.nz/home
http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11965-4546865,00.html

May there be peace in the world

UPDATE
Prime Minister Tony Blair is to make a live televised statement on the explosions in London at 1100 GMT

90 injuries and 2 deaths confirmed. (That is official from BBC, One News New Zealand and CNN, and either the Home Secretary or the Comissionner of the Metropolitan Police)

Bah, the skynews website is slow as snails. *sighs*

I'm trying to get some realtime links but I can't bring up sky, bbc tv or bbc radio, they must be swamped...

arab sources who monitor AQ have told the Beeb that it is prob AQ

*edit: dammit, too slow...*

That have caused 20 deaths and 80 wounded! :(
There's only two confirmed dead, according to the BBC.

Al-Qaeda... extremely likely they had a hand in it, even if they didn't carry out the attack directly
Keeping in mind that "Al-Qaeda" would merely be a cell of ten or so people in this case.

And the BBC just said their Arab sources say it is Al-Qaeda, and they confirm 2 dead at Aldgate (sp?)

I'm trying to get some realtime links but I can't bring up sky, bbc tv or bbc radio, they must be swamped...
No doubt.

2 confirmed dead

another explosion

all London hospitals on major alert

the BBC are saying that Arab sources monitoring Al Qayeda say it is almost certainly them who are responsible for the bombing

it isn't confirmed though

BBC 1 Just reported that Arab sources are saying that Al-Qaeda almost certainley commited these attacks.

Well then, I guess we can settle that arguement!

Useful Links on the situation

BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europ...tube/index.html

Google News
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...don/4659093.stm

XtraMSN
http://xtramsn.co.nz/home
http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11965-4546865,00.html

May there be peace in the world

UPDATE
Prime Minister Tony Blair is to make a live televised statement on the explosions in London at 1100 GMT

90 injuries and 2 deaths confirmed. (That is official from BBC, One News New Zealand and CNN, and either the Home Secretary or the Comissionner of the Metropolitan Police)

Keeping in mind that "Al-Qaeda" would merely be a cell of ten or so people in this case.

And the BBC just said their Arab sources say it is Al-Qaeda, and they confirm 2 dead at Aldgate (sp?)

I KNOW! I did put a post up about it!

Anyway, Blood Vans have been sighted

Keeping in mind that "Al-Qaeda" would merely be a cell of ten or so people in this case.

And the BBC just said their Arab sources say it is Al-Qaeda, and they confirm 2 dead at Aldgate (sp?)

spelling correct :)

Two deaths?

The numbers i heard is 90 estimated casaulties and 6 explosions.

Sir Ian Blair, Metropolitan Police Commissioner says the situation is under control and he urges people not to panic.

No problem! I hope you reach your loved one!

Now from what I've heard,

There are only 2 groups that could've done this: Al Qaeda and the IRA!

The IRA did not do this. Whoever bombed the Madrid trains did. From what I've gleamed the two attacks have the exact same blueprints.

Two deaths?

The numbers i heard is 90 estimated casaulties and 6 explosions.

Casualties not fatalities!

I KNOW! I did put a post up about it!
Since we can't communicate with each other - and we're all getting the same info at the same time: We are bound to repeat ourselves...

First Germany and now France.
The French are taking action to secure Paris.

There are so many conflicting reports. I can't access either BBC or skynews websites.

The IRA did not do this. Whoever bombed the Madrid trains did. From what I've gleamed the two attacks have the exact same blueprints.
Considering that it was ETA that attacked Madrid. Considering that Al-Qaeda has said that they would attack Britain. Considering that ETA has no need to attack Britain. Considering the news coverage of Madrid... No, it's Al-Qaeda without a doubt, copying an attack due to it's effectiveness

Considering that it was ETA that attacked Madrid. Considering that Al-Qaeda has said that they would attack Britain. Considering that ETA has no need to attack Britain. Considering the news coverage of Madrid... No, it's Al-Qaeda without a doubt, copying an attack due to it's effectiveness
Agreed!

I have to say that from what i've seen the emergency services and the government are doing a very good job, and ought to be praised for the great job thay are doing.

JERUSALEM (AP) Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks.

Now what is this all about?

I just hope this doesn't get to anything like the scale of the Madrid bombing.

My thoughts are with anyone injured or with loved ones in the area.

First Germany and now France.
The French are taking action to secure Paris.

I would imagine that is more of a precaution though. After all wouldn't it make more sense to hit them all at once?

I would guess that either boston or new york is a little higher on the target list in any case.

There are so many conflicting reports. I can't access either BBC or skynews websites.
Try and find a TV. For now, the internet is not perfect just yet... ;)

They're just saying the bus wreckage is a tourist tour bus.

It is reported that Tony Blair is not leaving Edinburgh where he is attending the G8 conference, however, initial reports say that Prime Minister Tony Blair is set to leave Edinburgh and that London Mayor Ken Livingston is on his way back from Singapore.

London police saying that there are MANY casualties.

I'm really getting quite worried now.

JERUSALEM (AP) Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks.

Now what is this all about?
Notice: Minutes. Minutes is not enough time to stop these attacks. It is, however, enough time to prepare very quickly

2 people are confirmed dead at Aldgate.

I have to say that from what i've seen the emergency services and the government are doing a very good job, and ought to be praised for the great job thay are doing.
Yes, they have been planning for a major attack since 9/11! Plus the emergency services have experience of such attacks before!
Good job!

well thank you very much mr bush.

lets not beat arround the bush here (no pun intended). due to the fact that president arsehole, sorry bush, decided NOT to persue the hunt of bin laden and Al Q members, and instead turn his selfish attention to iraq he has let them regroup, plan and execute the biggest attack on the west since 9/11.

well i hope it was all worth it, and i hope he personally goes to see all the families of the dead people to say sorry for fucking up.

I'm trying to get some realtime links but I can't bring up sky, bbc tv or bbc radio, they must be swamped...

I found that out!

BBC just said that an eye witness reports that the bus was a tourist bus...and the government sources said 20 confirmed dead so far, 2 are in one incident...there are reports of people with limbs blown off and all manner of hellish stories emerging....my heart is with you London

JERUSALEM (AP) Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks.

Now what is this all about?
They've probably received intel about coming attacks and thought they were likely to be directed at the Israeli embassy. Plus an Israeli minister is in London for talks now, I believe, they could have thought he was a target.

Try and find a TV. For now, the internet is not perfect just yet... ;)

They're just saying the bus wreckage is a tourist tour bus.

The websites are being swamped with people looking for loved-ones. I heard that they might go down. I also headr that the tourist bus is the famous "Big red" which does sightseeing tours around the city.

Yes, they have been planning for a major attack since 9/11! Plus the emergency services have experience of such attacks before!
Good job!

That's true. That was the thing about 9/11 - the US didn't know how to deal with it. We do, because we've been through terror attacks before

Try and find a TV. For now, the internet is not perfect just yet... ;)

They're just saying the bus wreckage is a tourist tour bus.

I'm not going to tell you what station I'm watching. I do have the TV on. Had it on when I saw "multiple explosions in London" in my msn window.

There is another thread going rather rapidly about that. Check that.

I'm just flicking between BBC and Sky News. Both are showing live shots of Russel SQ.

I'm not going to tell you what station I'm watching. I do have the TV on. Had it on when I saw "multiple explosions in London" in my msn window.

My dad texted me this morning, saying it was good I had come home yesterday

Directory of UK Government websites

http://www.direct.gov.uk/Homepage/fs/en
http://www.direct.gov.uk/Nl1/Newsroom/fs/en
http://www.direct.gov.uk/Nl1/Newsroom/PublicSafety/PublicSafetyArticles/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=10020593&chk=1wl1uB

JERUSALEM (AP) Senior Israeli official says Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks.

Now what is this all about?
Scotland Yard will automatically notify the Isreali Embassy any time there is a possible attack, as unfortunatley they are they most targeted nation by terrorists!

BBC 1 - 'No children have been involved'

The websites are being swamped with people looking for loved-ones. I heard that they might go down. I also headr that the tourist bus is the famous "Big red" which does sightseeing tours around the city.
It was an old London Transport covered double decker, that had been bought by a sight-seeing company for tours of London.

Just got a call from dad, his train somehow found itself in Brentwood :)

My thoughts go out to those who haven't been able to contact people in London.

I found that out!

lol, can get teh websites but no links...bugger....

Just got a call from dad, his train somehow found itself in Brentwood :)

My thoughts go out to those who haven't been able to contact people in London.

Glad to hear he's alright

Just got a call from dad, his train somehow found itself in Brentwood :)
Phew.
That's excellent.

So Blair is going to make his address in another 15 minutes?

So Blair is going to make his address in another 15 minutes?

Looks like it. I say when he does, we stop posting, and watch. Do you all Agree?

Just got a call from dad, his train somehow found itself in Brentwood :)

My thoughts go out to those who haven't been able to contact people in London.

I'm glad your dad is safe New Burmesia. I echo your last sentence as well.

So Blair is going to make his address in another 15 minutes?
Yeah.
I suppose people will more or less transfer every word onto this thread...

They've just said they don't think many children were hurt
I don't live in London anymore, but I can't think off hand of many schools in Zone one, Universities and colleges, but of hand no schools

Just got a call from dad, his train somehow found itself in Brentwood :)

My thoughts go out to those who haven't been able to contact people in London.

Nice one!!

1126 The president of the European Parliament, Josep Borrell, blames terrorism for a "coordinated series of attacks" and "confirmed deaths"

from

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659331.stm

Looks like it. I say when he does, we stop posting, and watch. Do you all Agree?
Agreed.

Looks like it. I say when he does, we stop posting, and watch. Do you all Agree?

Agreed.

I agree as well Snake Eaters.

Can one person post the basics of what he says for those of us not able to get coverage?

There is another thread going rather rapidly about that. Check that.


There are loads of threads and will be more. Eventually a mod will turn up and put the big merge into effect.

Can one person post the basics of what he says for those of us not able to get coverage?
Sure, I'll do what I can

Yeah.
I suppose people will more or less transfer every word onto this thread...
Which is good as I can't get to a TV...

I don't live in London anymore, but I can't think off hand of many schools in Zone one, Universities and colleges, but of hand no schools

Westminster School is in Vincent Square, I think.

Can one person post the basics of what he says for those of us not able to get coverage?
He'll probably just confirm what the news channels are telling us already!

Agreed

4 minutes...Actually, I think this is where Blair will show his colours as a good leader when he wants to be. He can be very good sometimes.

Damn BBC site is down. WTF?

Can one person post the basics of what he says for those of us not able to get coverage?

I take it you don't have a TV near by? I"m sure every news network is going to cover it.

:(
BBC just showed injured people being brought to hospital. One guy didn't seem to be breathing...

Rhoderick, I'll do that, I'm watching as well.



As for Israel, I have a different theory to yours. Since Israel has such experience in dealing with terrorist attacks, I think Britain let them know that there would be attacks soon, and asked them for help, but the attacks happened too soon.

Damn BBC site is down. WTF?
Too many ppl trying to get on at once. Happens here every once in a while

Yeah.
I suppose people will more or less transfer every word onto this thread...

They had better do.



BBC reports that at least one explosion shows evidence of explosives...

no link just a ticker...

London, Britons, we stand by you!

COBRA has been brought into play, people. This is most definatley a terror attack.

Sanctaphrax, I already said I'll do it, but you can if you want, I'm not fussed

I just went to watch the TV and saw a poor poor man, with terrible injuries being taken from an ambulance whilst they did heart CPR on his poor damaged body...I pray to god that he will survive this.

I take it you don't have a TV near by? I"m sure every news network is going to cover it.

At work,

No speakers on computer

I just went to watch the TV and saw a poor poor man, with terrible injuries being taken from an ambulance whilst they did heart CPR on his poor damaged body...I pray to god that he will survive this.

It's horrendous... what could drive people to do this. And the person who says Jihad has never studied the word

COBRA has been brought into play, people.

Someone call Duke, Snake Eyes, Flint, Lady Jay, Scarlet, Shipwreck, Mutt, and the Rest of the G.I. Joe Team

(sorry, had to do it)

As for Israel, I have a different theory to yours. Since Israel has such experience in dealing with terrorist attacks, I think Britain let them know that there would be attacks soon, and asked them for help, but the attacks happened too soon.
I disagree, there isn't much the Israeli embassy can do to help the Met Police deal with bombings in London. It was most likely a warning.

COBRA has been brought into play, people. This is most definatley a terror attack.

Yup


I'm the same as Rhoderick (not simon rhoderick from Fallen dragon by any chance?)

Work, no speakers, no tv :(

London, Britons, we stand by you!
Thankyou!

if you dont have a T.V. listen to blair on the radio try BBC world service

THE MARKETS 11:54 UK

FTSE 100 5025.5 -204.10

Dax 4453.5 -162.02

Cac 40 4093.3 -186.61

Dow Jones 10270.7 -101.12

Nasdaq 2068.7 -10.10

S&P 500 1194.9 -10.05

BBC Global 30 5337.9 -8.43


Bugger....

if you dont have a T.V. listen to blair on the radio try BBC world service

Or any radio service

Sanctaphrax, I already said I'll do it, but you can if you want, I'm not fussed
Its no problem, I'll do it. I'm watching Sky News whilst watching the website anyway.

I think that after a warning the met police and the services would be able to respond very quickly, since plans were drawn up after 9/11 and we've had experience after N.I. (IRA)

If we hadn't, i'm sure it would be worse.

THE MARKETS 11:54 UK

FTSE 100 5025.5 -204.10

Dax 4453.5 -162.02

Cac 40 4093.3 -186.61

Dow Jones 10270.7 -101.12

Nasdaq 2068.7 -10.10

S&P 500 1194.9 -10.05

BBC Global 30 5337.9 -8.43


Bugger....

The pound went down a whole cent in less than an hour. In finanacial terms, thats heavy

Ah shit. That means the DOW, NASDAQ, and S&P 500 will also be down :(

THE MARKETS 11:54 UK

FTSE 100 5025.5 -204.10

Dax 4453.5 -162.02

Cac 40 4093.3 -186.61

Dow Jones 10270.7 -101.12

Nasdaq 2068.7 -10.10

S&P 500 1194.9 -10.05

BBC Global 30 5337.9 -8.43


Bugger....
Is that good or bad....? I assume by "bugger" its bad, but I have no clue.

Its no problem, I'll do it. I'm watching Sky News whilst watching the website anyway.
Deal... it's about to come. Remember, we agreed guys

if you dont have a T.V. listen to blair on the radio try BBC world service

Can't do that either :( no speakers

Do any fellow Australians know whether Blair will actually be broadcasted here?

I would imagine that is more of a precaution though. After all wouldn't it make more sense to hit them all at once?

I would guess that either boston or new york is a little higher on the target list in any case.

*looks at location*

Don't say that! :(

Yup


I'm the same as Rhoderick (not simon rhoderick from Fallen dragon by any chance?)

Work, no speakers, no tv :(


No... odd some one with same name as me...

*looks at location*

Don't say that! :(

New York is too obvious a target. No, Washington is a better target

Ah shit. That means the DOW, NASDAQ, and S&P 500 will also be down :(
Sorry if people being killed and maimed is affecting your portfolio! How inconsiderate of them!

Do any fellow Australians know whether Blair will actually be broadcasted here?
Both ABC and SBS have live feeds from BBC right now. I assume so.
EDIT: And Nine has CNN.

Just before Blair's statement, here's what the BBC is saying now:
A 'bang' at Liverpool St. Station, reports of blasts at Aldgate East, Edgware Rd, Kings Cross, Moorgate (which is very near to Liverpool St.) and Russell Sq. tube stations, bus explosion at Tavistock Sq. outside BMA building. 2 confirmed fatalities so far, plus numerous unconfirmed eyewitness reports of bodies on tube lines etc. Many injured - number unknown - typical injuries inclued burns, severe cuts, some (very few) people missing limbs.
Almost certainly the work of Al-Qaeda

THE MARKETS 11:54 UK

FTSE 100 5025.5 -204.10

Dax 4453.5 -162.02

Cac 40 4093.3 -186.61

Dow Jones 10270.7 -101.12

Nasdaq 2068.7 -10.10

S&P 500 1194.9 -10.05

BBC Global 30 5337.9 -8.43


Bugger....

Well the US markets aren't open yet. But the futures look poor.

Sorry if people being killed and maimed is affecting your portfolio! How inconsiderate of them!
It's not that. It's how this affects the world. Remember the economic slump after 9/11? Blair is broadcasting soon.

Is that good or bad....? I assume by "bugger" its bad, but I have no clue.

-200 points is bad. not recession bad, but bad.

The markets aren't the end of the world. Thry'll bounce back when they see how great we brits are at sorting stuff out and giving two fingers to the bastards we don't like. :upyours: (i.e. bin Laden)

Do any fellow Australians know whether Blair will actually be broadcasted here?

I'm in NZ. It's all over tv here, the networks have cut into their programming. It's on radio also, so I would imagine you'd get live coverage over there too.

Sorry if people being killed and maimed is affecting your portfolio! How inconsiderate of them!

I'm not even in the stock market so it doesn't really affect me. I"m very upset over this and I'm hoping that whoever is responsible pays dearly.