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HC Eredivisie
09-05-2005, 13:46
so [violet] = 2x the answer to the question of the meaning of life, the universe and everything.

therefore:

[violet]/2 = the answer to the question of the meaning of life, the universe and everything.

but: [violet] = Max Barry, therefore Max = 84.

but that is just obvious
The Blaatschapen
09-05-2005, 15:11
so [violet] = 2x the answer to the question of the meaning of life, the universe and everything.

therefore:

[violet]/2 = the answer to the question of the meaning of life, the universe and everything.

but: [violet] = Max Barry, therefore Max = 84.

but that is just obvious

But he is born in 1973 and that means he is only 32. This is a paradox and therefore this universe doesn't exist and this message was never written :p
Ardchoille
10-05-2005, 01:09
(scornfully): Duh!
HC Eredivisie
10-05-2005, 15:34
But Max also lives outside our space-time continuum.
Neo-Anarchists
11-05-2005, 00:52
But Max also lives outside our space-time continuum.
:eek:
Is Max an extraterrestrial?

Oh, wait, no. I think I get what you're saying now...
MAX IS GOD!!!!
:eek: :eek:
The Blaatschapen
11-05-2005, 02:06
:eek:
Is Max an extraterrestrial?

Oh, wait, no. I think I get what you're saying now...
MAX IS GOD!!!!
:eek: :eek:

Are you surprised by that? ;)
Rave Shentavo
11-05-2005, 03:11
:eek: hmm...I thought i was God :headbang:
The Blaatschapen
11-05-2005, 09:58
OMG!

Rave Shentavo = God
God = Max Barry

Therefore I conclude: Rave Shentavo = Max Barry :eek: :eek: :p
Fenure
11-05-2005, 10:11
Maybe they both are God. What's wrong with a little polythesiem every now and then.
Rave Shentavo
12-05-2005, 00:13
Problem is that i'm female...so...

God=me...and if I=Max...then Max must be short for Maxine
:D

oh yes...*bow down before me*
Czardas
15-05-2005, 05:00
So, if that 'we' is the Royal use of 'we', Max == [violet]. If not, Myrth seemes to be suggesting that [violet] is a group and Max would then be part of that group.

Ballotonia*gasps*

*Czardas's Secret Police drag Ballotonia away to the execution chambers*

Phew. At least, no one else will recognize the truth...

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Pablicosta
11-08-2005, 15:21
So, if that 'we' is the Royal use of 'we', Max == [violet]. If not, Myrth seemes to be suggesting that [violet] is a group and Max would then be part of that group.

Ballotonia


Of course, Max could just be a slightly evil dicator that keeps this group on leashes in a dungeon, forcing them to do his bidding and keep his identity a secret. Or he could just be God.

*lightening strikes Pabli*
The Czardaian envoy
24-08-2005, 14:50
Actually, Cog unwittingly supplied me with a theory that could definitely point towards the true identity of Max Barry, but.... I'm not going to reveal it right now. ;)
Jusma Kullailie
29-08-2005, 10:49
Ummm... Who is Max Barry?
Jusma Kullailie
29-08-2005, 10:50
I know the answer. No need to reply to that :p
HC Eredivisie
29-08-2005, 11:16
Actually, Cog unwittingly supplied me with a theory that could definitely point towards the true identity of Max Barry, but.... I'm not going to reveal it right now. ;)
The true identity of Max Barry....maybe he is Max Barry :eek:
United Tribes Cacicate
13-09-2005, 17:53
I am too busy to read 85 pages. Who have you said is Max Baary by now besides violet??
The Czardaian envoy
13-09-2005, 18:14
The true identity of Max Barry....maybe he is Max Barry :eek:
Impossible! Too far-fetched!

All I know is that the theory Myrth = Max Barry is wrong.

Likewise [dredd] ? Max.

Likewise Hack ? Cog ? Kat ? Fris ? Euro ? GMC ? Rep ? Sirocco ? Scolo ? Karma ? TJ ? Melkor ? Max.

Who is Max Barry? I have a theory...
New Dutch America
15-09-2005, 01:58
just wondering

60% sure its a yes....
NovaCarpeDiem
15-09-2005, 19:47
Czardas, stop bluffing.

I alone know the truth. (except for maybe Max Barry, but who's he to me?)

Long post, so I'll copy-and-paste into my next one.
Bjornoya
19-09-2005, 08:08
I don't know if this question has been asked, but if Max Barry created the game:

1) Does he own the site?
2) What rights does that give him? (specifically could he use some of the members' posted ideas in his books)

Cuz I really don't wanna be blamed if it turns out like crap.
The Czardaian envoy
19-09-2005, 17:04
I don't know if this question has been asked, but if Max Barry created the game:

1) Does he own the site?
2) What rights does that give him? (specifically could he use some of the members' posted ideas in his books)

Cuz I really don't wanna be blamed if it turns out like crap.
1) Yes
2) He could. He really should cite them, but some people don't know how to use... ...erm, nevermind. http://70.85.81.229/3630/189/emo/shiftyeyes.gif
Ballotonia
20-09-2005, 14:15
New evidence discovered...

From the ASCII table:

'M' = 109
'a' = 65
'x' = 88
' ' = 32
'B' = 98
'a' = 65
'r' = 82
'r' = 82
'y' = 89
TOTAL = 710

'[' = 91
'V' = 118
'i' = 73
'o' = 79
'l' = 76
'e' = 69
't' = 84
']' = 93
TOTAL = 683

That's a difference of 27, which one may interpret as them not being the same... until one realizes that [violet] has priorly been presented as if it were an artificial intelligence running on a mainframe. So it's appropriate for the name to be followed by some computer codes:
'NL' = 10 (New Line)
'CR' = 13 (Carriage Return)
'EOT' = 4 (End of Transmission)
This adds EXACTLY 27, leading to a total of 710 as well!

The conclusion is obvious... Either Max Barry created the [violet] alter ego to mask his own identity but left a numerical clue behind for us to find, or at this particular moment I'm way too bored and making efforts finding relations which lack any meaning whatsoever.

Ballotonia
DrunkenDove
20-09-2005, 17:04
The conclusion is obvious... Either Max Barry created the [violet] alter ego to mask his own identity but left a numerical clue behind for us to find, or at this particular moment I'm way too bored and making efforts finding relations which lack any meaning whatsoever.

Ballotonia

Answers on a postcard...
The Czardaian envoy
20-09-2005, 17:29
The conclusion is obvious... Either Max Barry created the [violet] alter ego to mask his own identity but left a numerical clue behind for us to find, or at this particular moment I'm way too bored and making efforts finding relations which lack any meaning whatsoever.

Ballotonia
Erm.... I'm fairly sure which of those is the right answer...
Gruenberg
23-09-2005, 17:50
One thing that's probably been noted before: [violet]'s Wikipedia username is Violetine. It seems to be stretching it to assume that Mr Barry would go so far to disguise his identity.
Czardas
23-09-2005, 17:53
One thing that's probably been noted before: [violet]'s Wikipedia username is Violetine. It seems to be stretching it to assume that Mr Barry would go so far to disguise his identity.
Of course. [violet] =/= Max Barry. That was obvious from the first.
Gruenberg
26-10-2005, 23:11
Right. I am now convinced [violet] = Mrs Barry. I have no evidence, and those who know better may find the idea risible (especially if it is that Geoff Wong chap). Nonetheless, it's what I think.

My reasoning is: Violet is Hack's girlfriend. Damn fine logic if you ask me. It's also the only theory in the first 40 pages of this thing (which, according to Max, do contain the answer) that makes any sense.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 00:48
That makes very little sense to me. I think Max Barry is/was [dredd] or [mantle], the need for which evaporated with SalusaSecondus. That is why he became able to pay his bandwidth bills without juggling kittens on the streets of Melbourne for extra funds. (We all know the significance of that.) As for [violet], I believe [violet] is that Geoff Wong fellow. The Smoking Man is probably one of Max's nations, or perhaps Smokey the NSer; I think they're the same person—note the "smoke" correlation. Max Barry now plays with a normal nation that primarily lurks, doesn't have too many posts; doesn't RP; TSM makes a lot of sense.

Now onto other minor matters...such as the identities of Frisbeeteria and Crazy Girl, and the real meaning of Qaaolchoura's last comment on that thread...or Cogitation's cryptic warning on September 16th...or why The Basenji never became a mod...or the number 710... Look at it all at a time, and it will all fall together into one piece, and the puzzle will be complete.

What is the answer? Well, you'd never believe me....so I might as well not tell you... I learned the truth from one who knew better, but is no more. So don't bother asking them.

Now, it is time for me to go on a long vacation and leave you all wondering with suspense. ;)
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 00:59
That makes very little sense to me. I think Max Barry is/was [dredd] or [mantle], the need for which evaporated with SalusaSecondus.

I'm pretty sure at least one of them ceased before SS ascended. Nonetheless, it's a plausible idea. I'm not really interested in who Max is; after all, if he's a decent writer, he'd be able to assume most characters.

That is why he became able to pay his bandwidth bills without juggling kittens on the streets of Melbourne for extra funds. (We all know the significance of that.)

Surely it's just because they moved to Jolt?

As for [violet], I believe [violet] is that Geoff Wong fellow.

Mmm...except Geoff Wong looks awfully serious. [violet] seems to have a nice sense of humour. Plus - bigot alert - she writes like a woman. Then again, so does Max (apparently).

The Smoking Man is probably one of Max's nations, or perhaps Smokey the NSer; I think they're the same person—note the "smoke" correlation. Max Barry now plays with a normal nation that primarily lurks, doesn't have too many posts; doesn't RP; TSM makes a lot of sense.

No, I think TSM = StNSer, but I don't think either would be Max.

Now onto other minor matters...such as the identities of Frisbeeteria and Crazy Girl

A mod and a defender? These are two NSers whose identities actually seem fairly clear.

or why The Basenji never became a mod

He said he wanted to be one.
Ardchoille
27-10-2005, 03:38
Will you all please stop this ill-informed speculation? Surely it must be obvious by now that the whole NS site/community/concept is a front for the Stonecu-- the Masons, who are in turn a front for the Struldbugs, who are actually manipulating Prince Charles, who, through his Bourbon blood, is directly descended from Mary Magdalene, the woman who, as we all well know, concealed the Spear of Longinus at Glastonbury, later putting about a false story that she had given it to the Knights Templar, when in fact it was the Holy Rood she had given them, while the Knights Hospitaller got the Grail, briefly but improperly held by the Jacobites in the years 1715-1745, which explains the string of devastating defeats they suffered, which were, of course, foreseen in the predictions of the Sage of Glenfidditch, a copy of which has descended to me in direct line and which I am forbidden to reveal to the Unforgiven on pain of ... aaargh ...
Flibbleites
27-10-2005, 05:08
Right. I am now convinced [violet] = Mrs Barry. I have no evidence, and those who know better may find the idea risible (especially if it is that Geoff Wong chap). Nonetheless, it's what I think.

My reasoning is: Violet is Hack's girlfriend. Damn fine logic if you ask me. It's also the only theory in the first 40 pages of this thing (which, according to Max, do contain the answer) that makes any sense.
The thing is though, if RL is imitating the book, then would that mean that Mrs. Barry is having some sort of affair with Hack. Which if that's happening could very well mean that Max's new baby, isn't actually Max's kid at all.:eek:
Or maybe I've just watched too much Jerry Springer in my lifetime.:D
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 11:49
The thing is though, if RL is imitating the book, then would that mean that Mrs. Barry is having some sort of affair with Hack. Which if that's happening could very well mean that Max's new baby, isn't actually Max's kid at all.:eek:
Or maybe I've just watched too much Jerry Springer in my lifetime.:D

Well, ok. I was equating Hack Nike to Max, rather than TMGH.
The Most Glorious Hack
27-10-2005, 12:49
The thing is though, if RL is imitating the book, then would that mean that Mrs. Barry is having some sort of affair with Hack.I can neither confirm nor deny this.

Ahem.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 14:15
I can neither confirm nor deny this.

Ahem.*begins to get sinister ideas*

Hmmmm.... ^_^


Gruenberg, you totally misinterpreted my words. I didn't mean those as literal questions. In fact, try looking at it this way:
Now onto other minor matters...such as the identities of Frisbeeteria and Crazy Girl, and the real meaning of Qaaolchoura's last comment on that thread...or Cogitation's cryptic warning on September 16th...or why The Basenji never became a mod...or the number 710... Look at it all at a time, and it will all fall together into one piece, and the puzzle will be complete.

Take the first letter of every third word...

You get the sequence:

O S I A A M L T C O O B A T L A T W T P P C

You may state that this has no meaning, but I and anyone in the know can tell you that it does.

How, you'll have to find out by yourself. :p
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 14:23
Funny.

Anyway, I have decided now that I believe with absolute, unwavering, bed-wetting sincerity, and nothing, including factual evidence and mild torture, will sway me from thinking that [violet] = Mrs (Ms?) Barry.
The Former Smoking Man
27-10-2005, 14:31
The Smoking Man is probably one of Max's nations, or perhaps Smokey the NSer; I think they're the same person—note the "smoke" correlation. Max Barry now plays with a normal nation that primarily lurks, doesn't have too many posts; doesn't RP; TSM makes a lot of sense.

*takes a drag*

An interesting theory.
Smokey the NSer
27-10-2005, 14:34
*takes a drag*

An interesting theory.

Indeed. You may want to put that out, mate. It could start a forum fire if you are not careful.:)
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 14:38
Hmm...I think I have an idea who Smokey is. Maybe not, though.

Gosh, this is all so very mysterious. Ginger beer all around, wot?
Czardas
27-10-2005, 14:39
You are either the same person, or you are different people. But I know now that neither of you is Max. Because that sequence of letters told me otherwise. :)

However, I'm fairly sure at least one of you is T************** or C*********.
Kanabia
27-10-2005, 14:40
Indeed. You may want to put that out, mate. It could start a forum fire if you are not careful.:)

aHA! Ladies and Gentlemen, exhibit A.

*pulls at mask*

OK, it won't come off. But his usage of "mate" drops some hints. Maybe.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 14:40
Hmm...I think I have an idea who Smokey is. Maybe not, though.

Gosh, this is all so very mysterious. Ginger beer all around, wot?
Smokey is obvious. TSM, on the other hand, is not. But he reminds me of someone. So I'm pretty sure I know who both of them are. Or at least, I can figure it out.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 14:41
aHA! Ladies and Gentlemen, exhibit A.

*pulls at mask*

OK, it won't come off. But his usage of "mate" drops some hints. Maybe.
WTH? Kanabia, you live in Melbourne. Why can't you just look up Max in the phone book and go spy on his house? ;)
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 14:41
T**************

I think I may agree.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 14:43
I think I may agree.Good. All it requires is an IP check *looks around frantically for Salusa* and we've got the proof. :D
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 14:45
Ah, we're really just drunken college types stumbling around in the dark. Those who know better must find it all rather quaint.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 14:48
Ah, we're really just drunken college types stumbling around in the dark. Those who know better must find it all rather quaint.
Speak for yourself...


Look, even now that we've figured that out, we're still nowhere near finding the identity of Max and [violet]. Unless, by a very curious coincidence, or design.... but no. It can't be possible. It simply can't. Unless...

Wait a minute. *runs out and gets abducted by mod conspirators*
The Former Smoking Man
27-10-2005, 14:48
Good. All it requires is an IP check *looks around frantically for Salusa* and we've got the proof. :D

*takes a drag*

And what makes you think Salusa has the time to come on and do IP checks for this sort of thing? He has conspiracy theories to destroy.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 14:52
*takes a drag*

And what makes you think Salusa has the time to come on and do IP checks for this sort of thing? He has conspiracy theories to destroy.
*bookmarks this post*

Anyone who didn't realize the significance of this post, I feel sorry for you. It's the Missing Link.
Kanabia
27-10-2005, 14:54
WTH? Kanabia, you live in Melbourne. Why can't you just look up Max in the phone book and go spy on his house? ;)

LMAO! :p

I'm guessing there will be a ton of M. Barry's, though.
The Former Smoking Man
27-10-2005, 14:58
*bookmarks this post*

Anyone who didn't realize the significance of this post, I feel sorry for you. It's the Missing Link.

*takes a long drag*

You were looking for the missing link?

Here's (http://www.omgwtfthisisnotarealurl.net) the correct one.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 15:00
LMAO! :p

I'm guessing there will be a ton of M. Barry's, though.Search them all, then! :p

Or, get promoted to Admin and get Maxtopia's IP, then search for it among other nations to find out what other nations belong to Max. Of course, if Max is [violet], [dredd], TJHairball, or someone else who has no nation, that won't help much, but it'll at least answer one question! ;)
Czardas
27-10-2005, 15:02
*takes a long drag*

You were looking for the missing link?

Here's (http://www.omgwtfthisisnotarealurl.net) the correct one.
Oh, funny. I thought it was this one (http://www.youknewbetterthantoclickonthislinkbutyoudidanywaysonyah.org/index.html/page=The_Missing_Link)... :rolleyes:
The Former Smoking Man
27-10-2005, 15:06
Oh, funny. I thought it was this one (http://www.youknewbetterthantoclickonthislinkbutyoudidanywaysonyah.org/index.html/page=The_Missing_Link)... :rolleyes:

*takes a drag*

It was a joke. That's no way to treat a fellow conspirator.

www.missinglink.net.au
Czardas
27-10-2005, 15:15
*takes a drag*

It was a joke. That's no way to treat a fellow conspirator.

www.missinglink.net.au
...Conspirator?

Wait a minute, that means you must be a mod!
Armacor
27-10-2005, 15:16
Well i know there is something weird with Crazygirl... during a small griefing problem *she* refounded my region for me... and it now doesnt have a founder at all... not something a normal person can do...
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 15:19
Well i know there is something weird with Crazygirl... during a small griefing problem *she* refounded my region for me... and it now doesnt have a founder at all... not something a normal person can do...

I think that's something different. Were there founders in the game when she did the refounding? The region's pretty old.
Armacor
27-10-2005, 15:23
I think that's something different. Were there founders in the game when she did the refounding? The region's pretty old.


yep... it was about 2 months ago...
Czardas
27-10-2005, 15:24
I think that's something different. Were there founders in the game when she did the refounding? The region's pretty old.
I don't know. It has an odd similarity to the founding of the Rejected Realms with Testlandia. (Or was it one of the Pacifics?) Interesting to note is that CG resides in the Rejected Realms and is a member of its army.
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 15:26
I don't know. It has an odd similarity to the founding of the Rejected Realms with Testlandia. (Or was it one of the Pacifics?) Interesting to note is that CG resides in the Rejected Realms and is a member of its army.

...no, you don't understand. Founders haven't always been in the game. Korner is an old region, and I think it may have been refounded before founders were introduced. I should point out I am wildly speculating; I can't remember what Armacor told me yesterday.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 15:28
Gruen, I know founders haven't always been in the game. But:

yep... it was about 2 months ago...
iQuote this. It is significant.

I founded my region 2 months ago and it's still got a founder.
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 15:31
Ah. I didn't see his post in there. Apologies.

Right, I'm being stupid. When regions are refounded after griefing (as was Armacor), they don't have founders. Duh. That explains it. Sorry, I did know that...I was being slow.
Armacor
27-10-2005, 15:35
ok... Korner - my region... was founded on 28th Nov 2002.
Was continously occupied by me (and others who mostly died out) until around August 2005. Got invaded and griefed... 35 days ago today (i have TG of that date), was refounded the next day (so 34 days ago) by CrazyGirl.

Has No Founder now...

Had a founder for the original position - but founder was listed as inactive/dead.

As i dont have time/inclination to search out all the regions i dont know how many others dont have founders but i doubt it is many...
Armacor
27-10-2005, 15:36
damn... was hoping i could provide a chunk of puzzle...
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 15:38
As i dont have time/inclination to search out all the regions i dont know how many others dont have founders but i doubt it is many...

Lots have inactive founders. Those with no founders at all, though, are either game regions (7) or those refounded by mods (e.g., and please don't throw things at me, I'm not saying anything, Haven).
Armacor
27-10-2005, 15:41
ok sure... but CG isnt a mod... AFAIK anyway...
Czardas
27-10-2005, 15:43
Lots have inactive founders. Those with no founders at all, though, are either game regions (7) or those refounded by mods (e.g., and please don't throw things at me, I'm not saying anything, Haven).
...But a mod didn't refound Armacor's region... unless... :eek:
Czardas
27-10-2005, 15:46
ok sure... but CG isnt a mod... AFAIK anyway...
...That's what we're trying to find out. You remember my original message? Everyone else I mentioned fits into this puzzle somehow.
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 15:49
Um...yes, the mods did refound Korner. It was griefed, a GHR was filed, and the region was refounded. CG just moved in as delegate initially to defend it, I believe it. She didn't refound it: after all, how could she? She wasn't a native.

This is becoming increasingly derailed. But CG is definitely not Max.
Armacor
27-10-2005, 15:53
well i would ring all the M Barrys in the phone book here... but there are 87 of them :-) and it could be silent anyways :-)

oh and i cant really be bothered :-)
Czardas
27-10-2005, 16:22
Um...yes, the mods did refound Korner. It was griefed, a GHR was filed, and the region was refounded. CG just moved in as delegate initially to defend it, I believe it. She didn't refound it: after all, how could she? She wasn't a native.

This is becoming increasingly derailed. But CG is definitely not Max.
Yes, we already knew that. :rolleyes:
The Former Smoking Man
27-10-2005, 16:29
Yes, we already knew that. :rolleyes:

*takes a drag*

Indeed. CG is a member of the Dutch Mafia.
Czardas
27-10-2005, 16:41
*takes a drag*

Indeed. CG is a member of the Dutch Mafia.
<-------------- Pwned.
Armacor
27-10-2005, 17:26
one way to possibly find out, or narrow it down a little at least... would be to wait for a largest nations list to be published, and check each nation in the top couple of hundred million... say anyone over 6 Billion at the moment... if they log on every day, dont use forums - or have writing styles like the news page (as checked by computers online)....

it could help...

stop looking at me that way...
Gruenberg
27-10-2005, 17:28
one way to possibly find out, or narrow it down a little at least... would be to wait for a largest nations list to be published, and check each nation in the top couple of hundred million... say anyone over 6 Billion at the moment... if they log on every day, dont use forums - or have writing styles like the news page (as checked by computers online)....

it could help...

stop looking at me that way...

Trouble is, Max has said before he doesn't RP. I can't really see him soiling himself in General. I suspect the Gameplayers would be the most likely to have interacted with him. And, anyway, he could presumably make his pop what he wanted.
Armacor
27-10-2005, 17:30
also...
as most of the older more experienced RPers seem to have spread themselves over many subboards - like the NS draftroom, lineinc, W@W (ok those are mine i know there are others) wait for hte next irc chat, get an ip and get admins on the subboards to compare that to their members... should thin out the list a bit as well :-)
Czardas
27-10-2005, 17:31
one way to possibly find out, or narrow it down a little at least... would be to wait for a largest nations list to be published, and check each nation in the top couple of hundred million... say anyone over 6 Billion at the moment... if they log on every day, dont use forums - or have writing styles like the news page (as checked by computers online)....

it could help...

stop looking at me that way...
No, because of the population bug. I know of several nations from November-December 2002. One of them has 5.2 billion people and another one has 7.1 billion people. It really won't help all too much.

The oldest extant nation now has about 6.1 billion people, while the largest has 7.3 or something, according to Sal.

It no worky.
Armacor
27-10-2005, 17:33
Trouble is, Max has said before he doesn't RP. I can't really see him soiling himself in General. I suspect the Gameplayers would be the most likely to have interacted with him. And, anyway, he could presumably make his pop what he wanted.

maybe... but i would have thought that he would have a nation for RPing politically if not miliatarally...
Armacor
27-10-2005, 17:36
No, because of the population bug. I know of several nations from November-December 2002. One of them has 5.2 billion people and another one has 7.1 billion people. It really won't help all too much.

The oldest extant nation now has about 6.1 billion people, while the largest has 7.3 or something, according to Sal.

It no worky.


well how many nations are there with pop over 5.2? if it is more than 300 i would be very suprised...
Czardas
27-10-2005, 17:39
well how many nations are there with pop over 5.2? if it is more than 300 i would be very suprised...
Most nations with that population or higher were created around or before April 2003. During that time approximately 100,000 nations were created, at least. I should think at least 1,000 of those are still active today.
Armacor
27-10-2005, 17:43
damn... i wouldnt have put it that high, with deaths and rebirths not counted...
Frisbeeteria
27-10-2005, 17:49
Well i know there is something weird with Crazygirl... during a small griefing problem *she* refounded my region for me... and it now doesnt have a founder at all... not something a normal person can do...
I think you're confusing "moved a puppet in to keep it from disappearing" and "refounded". Every region I've ever founded / refounded has had my nation listed as Founder. It's possible there is a ZOMG!s3cr1t!!1! process by which we *could* create founderless regions (I just thought of one, actually), but we're far to (lazy) ethical to do that.

Let's get back on topic, please.
Armacor
27-10-2005, 17:52
I think you're confusing "moved a puppet in to keep it from disappearing" and "refounded". Every region I've ever founded / refounded has had my nation listed as Founder. It's possible there is a ZOMG!s3cr1t!!1! process by which we *could* create founderless regions (I just thought of one, actually), but we're far to (lazy) ethical to do that.

Let's get back on topic, please.


well could you please tell me who my regions founder is? (being it isnt listed)

and i think we are on topic - at least as much as the rest of this thread is, if not more...
Frisbeeteria
27-10-2005, 18:15
well could you please tell me who my regions founder is? (being it isnt listed)
If that information were recorded anywhere, your region would not be Founderless. Since it was founded before Founders existed, there is no record of it being founded. Had Crazy Girl refounded it, she (or her puppet, or whomever) would listed as founder. Since she's not listed, I can only draw the conclusion that it pre-dates founders.

Now, since you've asked this via multiple Getting Help requests and at least two irrelevant threads, would you PLEASE stop highjacking topics with this request?
Armacor
27-10-2005, 18:27
If that information were recorded anywhere, your region would not be Founderless. Since it was founded before Founders existed, there is no record of it being founded. Had Crazy Girl refounded it, she (or her puppet, or whomever) would listed as founder. Since she's not listed, I can only draw the conclusion that it pre-dates founders.

Now, since you've asked this via multiple Getting Help requests and at least two irrelevant threads, would you PLEASE stop highjacking topics with this request?


apologies for giving that impression... i didnt mean that... the thought that i might have info relevent here led to the post...

also this is the first thread *I* have asked this on... and i dont think i made any Getting help requests about it, tho i did post about it on irc (inc one request on themodcave) - could be the confusion...

Finally another thought for the topic...
How do you set up those (offficial) friend meetup groups i saw listed occasionally a while back... if Melbourne had one then Max might show, and be convinced to answer questions after many toasts to babies etc...
Goobergunchia
28-10-2005, 00:18
I don't know. It has an odd similarity to the founding of the Rejected Realms with Testlandia. (Or was it one of the Pacifics?) Interesting to note is that CG resides in the Rejected Realms and is a member of its army.

You're thinking of Lazarus.

also...
as most of the older more experienced RPers seem to have spread themselves over many subboards - like the NS draftroom, lineinc, W@W (ok those are mine i know there are others) wait for hte next irc chat, get an ip and get admins on the subboards to compare that to their members... should thin out the list a bit as well :-)

I have his IP from the last chat. It's the same IP that NS has.

Of course, the IP he had from the first chat is quite a bit more interesting.


How do you set up those (offficial) friend meetup groups i saw listed occasionally a while back... if Melbourne had one then Max might show, and be convinced to answer questions after many toasts to babies etc...

I think that kind of died. However....
http://www.nationstates.net/news/2004/02/13/index.html#ontheroad
Czardas
28-10-2005, 15:01
I have his IP from the last chat. It's the same IP that NS has.

Of course, the IP he had from the first chat is quite a bit more interesting.What nation does it match up with? Do you know? Can you find out? (etc.)



I think that kind of died. However....
http://www.nationstates.net/news/2004/02/13/index.html#ontheroad
Did anyone ever figure out who they all were?
The Most Glorious Hack
28-10-2005, 15:07
What nation does it match up with? Do you know? Can you find out? (etc.)I know! I know!
HC Eredivisie
28-10-2005, 15:08
Did anyone ever figure out who they all were?I think we named all of them, they are mostly moderators and admin, like that guy behind the desk, you wouldn't say but he's [Vi....uhm...nevermind....
HC Eredivisie
28-10-2005, 15:09
I know! I know!
Please do enlighten us, oh yellowish person with no face:D
Czardas
28-10-2005, 15:32
I think we named all of them, they are mostly moderators and admin, like that guy behind the desk, you wouldn't say but he's [Vi....uhm...nevermind....
I know at least one of them is T... er, Max Barry, but I'm not sure about any of the others. Hack, who are they?
The Most Glorious Hack
28-10-2005, 15:33
Bwahahaha.
Czardas
28-10-2005, 15:34
Bwahahaha.
Oh, that guy? Who else?
HC Eredivisie
28-10-2005, 16:17
Well, it has been posted, somewhere here on this forum:p maybe even this thread but I forgot where exactly it is.:D
Czardas
28-10-2005, 17:04
Well, it has been posted, somewhere here on this forum:p maybe even this thread but I forgot where exactly it is.:D
:( Ah well, pity that.
Neo Kervoskia
28-10-2005, 20:54
The Most Glorious Hack == Melkor Unchained == Euroslavia == Frisbeeteria == Katganistan == [ violet ] =/= Max Barry

The question isn't who is [ violet ], but who is Max Barry.
Czardas
28-10-2005, 23:22
The Most Glorious Hack == Melkor Unchained == Euroslavia == Frisbeeteria == Katganistan == [ violet ] =/= Max Barry

The question isn't who is [ violet ], but who is Max Barry.
Look at it this way.

Many mods have posted in this thread. Either the mods are trying to hide something. In which case, there is a mod conspiracy, and TSM has been lying to us. In that case, TSM knows the truth, and thus, he is [violet] or another admin.

Or, the mods are just playing along with the thread. That means all of these theories are wrong, and Ballotonia is Max Barry.

Alternately, I've been overdosing on drugs. But that is, as well all know, impossible. ;)
Anagonia
29-10-2005, 00:36
I don't know if anyone has said this before, and I really don't feel like going through 89 pages right now, but I have a hypotesis:

You know Max Berry has a wife, right? Well, [violet] is Max Barry's wife.

Max Barry could easily be someone else, probably not even [max barry] anymore, but he's probably another Nation. I've got to admit, if [violet] turns out NOT to be his wife, then I have a few other canidates I could think up.
Gruenberg
29-10-2005, 00:38
I don't know if anyone has said this before, and I really don't feel like going through 89 pages right now, but I have a hypotesis:

You know Max Berry has a wife, right? Well, [violet] is Max Barry's wife.

This is what I said a couple of pages back. We're gathering support!
Anagonia
29-10-2005, 00:49
This is what I said a couple of pages back. We're gathering support!

Lol, this is the thing that the Mods have been trying to get you away from. They know the truth! They know it! They knew it all along!

Muahhahahahahaha!

Anywho, seriously, this is something I had been thinkin about for a while, hypothesizing about and the like. I mean, if Max Barry used to come on as [max barry], then why shouldn't his wife come on as [violet], hmmm? Makes logical sense in a certian POV, but otherwise I have no further proof beyond skeptical analysis.
Czardas
29-10-2005, 00:52
Max Barry could easily be someone else, probably not even [max barry] anymore, but he's probably another Nation. I've got to admit, if [violet] turns out NOT to be his wife, then I have a few other canidates I could think up.
Me too. I still believe Siri, Unfree, Tsar, TJ, and/or Karma are all part of an admin group. Reason being, they never post (anymore) and yet still stay active...
Czardas
29-10-2005, 00:55
Lol, this is the thing that the Mods have been trying to get you away from. They know the truth! They know it! They knew it all along!

Muahhahahahahaha!

Anywho, seriously, this is something I had been thinkin about for a while, hypothesizing about and the like. I mean, if Max Barry used to come on as [max barry], then why shouldn't his wife come on as [violet], hmmm? Makes logical sense in a certian POV, but otherwise I have no further proof beyond skeptical analysis.
Then wouldn't the admin name be the name of Max's wife, which isn't Violet? (I forget what it is now, btw. Someone update me?)
Gruenberg
29-10-2005, 00:56
Me too. I still believe Siri, Unfree, Tsar, TJ, and/or Karma are all part of an admin group. Reason being, they never post (anymore) and yet still stay active...

Um...how do you mean 'stay active', if they never post? Some people do have RL considerations, you know. Reviewing the Mod Olympics, Siri was never the most active; Karma has said before he would like to be more active, but has too many RL diversions; Unfree still posts; TJHairball has very few posts anyway.

I don't see why they would be part of an 'admin group'.
Gruenberg
29-10-2005, 00:57
Then wouldn't the admin name be the name of Max's wife, which isn't Violet? (I forget what it is now, btw. Someone update me?)

Jen(nifer?).
Anagonia
29-10-2005, 00:57
Then wouldn't the admin name be the name of Max's wife, which isn't Violet? (I forget what it is now, btw. Someone update me?)

It possibly was intended that Max's wife didn't want her name on there, so she picked something else. But I must admit, [violet] is a mysterious character, and my only good guess is Max's wife, even though so many say it isn't.

I don't know, but once again this is my best hypothetical guess.

Me too. I still believe Siri, Unfree, Tsar, TJ, and/or Karma are all part of an admin group. Reason being, they never post (anymore) and yet still stay active...

They must, they are admins. It is a good policy to only expose ONE admin to assure the players that no power hungry maniacs are around....
Czardas
29-10-2005, 01:07
Um...how do you mean 'stay active', if they never post? Some people do have RL considerations, you know. Reviewing the Mod Olympics, Siri was never the most active; Karma has said before he would like to be more active, but has too many RL diversions; Unfree still posts; TJHairball has very few posts anyway.

I don't see why they would be part of an 'admin group'.
RL? What's that?

And they post so infrequently, especially considering that three of them are Forum Mods and have no access to the Mod Centre... it makes you a bit suspicious. Especially considering that many of them still log on every day, or every other day.

(Btw, Tsaraine still posts, but mostly in NS. Unfree does not post for some reason. At least, I haven't seen her post in ages.)
Gruenberg
29-10-2005, 01:35
RL? What's that?

And they post so infrequently, especially considering that three of them are Forum Mods and have no access to the Mod Centre... it makes you a bit suspicious. Especially considering that many of them still log on every day, or every other day.

(Btw, Tsaraine still posts, but mostly in NS. Unfree does not post for some reason. At least, I haven't seen her post in ages.)

Two are forum mods. What's suspicious about them not posting all the time? Most mod work is behind the scenes GHR stuff anyway.
Czardas
29-10-2005, 05:50
Two are forum mods. What's suspicious about them not posting all the time? Most mod work is behind the scenes GHR stuff anyway.
But that's only accessible to game mods....
Frisbeeteria
29-10-2005, 14:00
Two are forum mods.
Three are forum mods. TJ Hairball, Unfree People, and Tsaraine are all FMs.
Gruenberg
29-10-2005, 22:11
Ah, hadn't seen he mentioned Tsar. Apologies, Czardas.

Anyway, I don't see how less active mods must automatically be hyper conpirators. Some people just don't have a lot of time to mod, maybe? But then, pretending there's a conspiracy is some people's idea of fun, so I guess I shouldn't be too pissy.
Anagonia
29-10-2005, 22:13
*sighs*

When will it become truth about Violet....
Czardas
29-10-2005, 22:29
*sighs*

When will it become truth about Violet....
When the mods lock it, they'll tell us, I guess. ;)
Scolopendra
29-10-2005, 22:37
But then, pretending there's a conspiracy is some people's idea of fun
Especially when it prevents them from having to admit that there may be something wrong with their own attitudes or actions that they would have to expend effort to identify and fix...
Anagonia
29-10-2005, 22:41
When the mods lock it, they'll tell us, I guess. ;)

Oh, when they lock the thread, they better tell! The Mighty Reploid will reveal all!

ALL HAIL REPLOID, THE GODDESS OF THE BLADE!

*ahem*

Anywho...
Gruenberg
24-11-2005, 17:15
It's the middle of the night in Australia, and the middle of the holiday in the US. If [violet] gets insomnia, or if Salusa gets bored with cooking, or if the baby wakes Max, maybe they'll check their email. It's not a disk failure, the web service has simply shut down. It will be back up within seconds after one of them reads about it.

Muahaha! The plot thickens.
New Pindorama
24-11-2005, 17:28
yea, I was about to post that. [violet] is an aussie...
Lapse
29-11-2005, 09:27
Especially when it prevents them from having to admit that there may be something wrong with their own attitudes or actions that they would have to expend effort to identify and fix...
That is the exact theory us forum-7ites lived on for several months :)
Kwaswhakistan
02-12-2005, 02:32
All hail forum 7!

*sets thread on fire*

[violet] is still a beagle dog, I say
Lapse
02-12-2005, 11:08
All hail forum 7!

*sets thread on fire*

[violet] is still a beagle dog, I say
whoa... Kwaz, I haven't seen you in yonks!
Come join us at the SSA, links in my signature forum 7ey thing...

And for the purpose of not been off topic, [violet] is an android sent from the future to destroy it's creator!
The Blaatschapen
02-12-2005, 11:18
Violet is the RGB hex: #8B00FF ;)
Banduria
02-12-2005, 17:40
Thought I'd reveal the truth now: I am Max Barry... Or am I?

Disappointed, huh? ;)
Flibbleites
02-12-2005, 18:51
[violet] is a puppet of HotRodia.
New Pindorama
04-12-2005, 20:19
[violet] is a puppet of HotRodia.

actually, she's not, since [violet] is not a nation...
Flibbleites
04-12-2005, 22:35
actually, she's not, since [violet] is not a nation...
I should've clarified that a bit, she was a puppet of HotRodia.
Besides can't you tell a joke when you see one.
New Pindorama
05-12-2005, 00:12
I should've clarified that a bit, she was a puppet of HotRodia.
Besides can't you tell a joke when you see one.

White color, that's unfair...

I understood the joke, just didn't agree with it at all.

Back on topic, violet is australian...
Ardchoille
05-12-2005, 01:28
Lots of people are Australian. That doesn't make us Max Barry. Or puppets of Hotrodia, either.
Lapse
05-12-2005, 02:29
well, that limits it to one of around 20 million people who are citizens plus any non-citizens...
HC Eredivisie
05-12-2005, 10:29
Lots of people are Australian. That doesn't make us Max Barry. Or puppets of Hotrodia, either.
You haven't been here long enough to know...
New Pindorama
05-12-2005, 12:08
Can we continue on-topic??

Why would Max be violet??
Flibbleites
05-12-2005, 19:40
Can we continue on-topic??

Why would Max be violet??
Because being Maxtopia's too obvious of course.
New Pindorama
06-12-2005, 11:26
Because being Maxtopia's too obvious of course.

I don't think this has anything to do with the subject...
Lapse
06-12-2005, 13:47
I don't think this has anything to do with the subject...
Do you even know the historical significance of Maxtopia?

And it has everything to do with it...
Kwaswhakistan
07-12-2005, 03:28
Can we continue on-topic??

Why would Max be violet??

You obviously haven't been here long enough to realise the point of this thread. If you were here for forum 7, you would probably understand


wait.. he's trying to lead us away from the truths of Max... HE MUST BE MAX!!!
Ardchoille
07-12-2005, 04:08
You haven't been here long enough to know...


You mean, if you've been here long enough, you get told?

*bottom lip trembles*

It's not like ... Santa ... is it?

I'M NOT LISTENING!

*hides under bed.*
Lapse
07-12-2005, 04:13
You obviously haven't been here long enough to realise the point of this thread. If you were here for forum 7, you would probably understand


wait.. he's trying to lead us away from the truths of Max... HE MUST BE MAX!!!No, he's definatly not Max, I speak to him on a different forum, and he is pretty much the direct opposite :P
Enn
07-12-2005, 06:43
No, he's definatly not Max, I speak to him on a different forum, and he is pretty much the direct opposite :P
Obviously it is a cunning ploy to distract attention.
Erastide
07-12-2005, 07:28
Life is wonderful, isn't it? :)
Czardas
07-12-2005, 14:45
While we don't know who Max Barry is yet, I have a guess as to [violet].

I think "she" is.... a NationStates Game Administrator!

Mods/People who Know: Am I correct?
Erastide
07-12-2005, 15:04
*claps slowly for Czardas* ;)
Lapse
07-12-2005, 15:15
You're special :)
Czardas
07-12-2005, 17:51
You're special :)
Yay! Er... I mean... that is a good thing, right? ;)
New Pindorama
08-12-2005, 00:49
Am I Max?? I'm confused...
Kwaswhakistan
08-12-2005, 05:28
Oh now he's confused...


WE'RE ON TO YOU!
HC Eredivisie
08-12-2005, 10:42
Am I Max?? I'm confused...
No, you're not confused, you're Max.
Czardas
08-12-2005, 23:16
HE MUST BE MAX!
Ha. And I'm [violet], I suppose?


Uh-oh.... *runs*
Kwaswhakistan
09-12-2005, 02:51
... you're [dredd] !!!!! (did I remember the name right....? ) Maybe I am just saying that to lead you the wrong way! And now I am not going to close the parenthesy thing! What are you going to do now!



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/modedit.jpg ... because I had to ...
Lapse
09-12-2005, 14:30
Shotty [Mantle]
Czardas
09-12-2005, 15:05
... you're [dredd] !!!!! (did I remember the name right....? ) Maybe I am just saying that to lead you the wrong way! And now I am not going to close the parenthesy thing! What are you going to do now!
Hahaha, modpwned! ;)
Kwaswhakistan
10-12-2005, 06:37
shut down by the MAN!
Goobergunchia
11-12-2005, 23:56
Shotty [Mantle]

Why do you insist on grating cheese in the middle of this discussion?
Anagonia
12-12-2005, 15:12
Max Barry's Wife, Max Barry's wife, Max Barry's Wife!

*runs around, running in circles, laughing hystrically*
Goobergunchia
13-12-2005, 01:55
PIMB. *ninjalook*
Lapse
14-12-2005, 06:56
Why do you insist on grating cheese in the middle of this discussion?
Cause I feel like nachos, why else... You can't have nachos without cheese...


The thread just passed 1400 posts, I phear it may almost be lock time for this thread which has stood for almost a 2 and a half years

although, checking that first page:

Violet is Hack Nike's girlfriend.

Now, that may imply that [violet] is TMGH's girlfriend

now, if we were to base the assumption that [violet] Was Max's wife, TMGH would be Max.

Now who can remember when Maxtopia was abandoned? anywhere around March 03? (If not anywhere near, scrap this theory) when Max made a new nation, under the name of the character in his own book. If you have read the book you know that Hack ends up been somewhat of a Hero I believe. thus a suitable player for Max to name himself after.
[NS]The-Republic
14-12-2005, 07:01
*flings himself at Hack's feet*

It is you! You're the one! The one to come and save us! (Or something along those lines.)
Flibbleites
14-12-2005, 08:36
Now, that may imply that [violet] is TMGH's girlfriend

now, if we were to base the assumption that [violet] Was Max's wife, TMGH would be Max.

Now who can remember when Maxtopia was abandoned? anywhere around March 03? (If not anywhere near, scrap this theory) when Max made a new nation, under the name of the character in his own book. If you have read the book you know that Hack ends up been somewhat of a Hero I believe. thus a suitable player for Max to name himself after.
Or it could be, as I suggested earlier in the thread, that Hack is simply having an affair with Max's wife.
SalusaSecondus
14-12-2005, 09:26
The thread just passed 1400 posts, I phear it may almost be lock time for this thread which has stood for almost a 2 and a half years.

Not if I have my way.

M.B.
Enn
14-12-2005, 11:30
So... wait...

Sal is Max, who is married to Jennifer, known around here as [violet]and is having an affair with TMGH...

Have I got that right? Sounds like a perfectly reasonable conspiracy theory to me!
Lapse
15-12-2005, 05:39
yeah, i can go with that
Flibbleites
15-12-2005, 08:42
So... wait...

Sal is Max, who is married to Jennifer, known around here as [violet]and is having an affair with TMGH...

Have I got that right? Sounds like a perfectly reasonable conspiracy theory to me!
But if Sal=Max then wouldn't that mean that Max is working for Amazon.com in addition to writing?
Enn
15-12-2005, 22:00
Curiouser and curiouser...

So now we've got this 'Pythagosaurus' character as well. How does he/she/it/they fit in? Is Pythagosaurus Max Barry? Or [violet]? Or Sal? Or all of them at the same time?

The plot thickens...
Yesnono
19-12-2005, 21:44
The problem with all the theories in this thread, as I see it, is that they are still here. When people have gotten things right before, the post has disappeared (#1237, 1238 and 1239, page 83).

Or our current theories could be right and they've given up on deleting them.

Or none of them were right, and they deleted speculations just for fun.

Mods are sneaky critters.
The Blaatschapen
20-12-2005, 01:42
Or none of them were right, and they deleted speculations just for fun.


That's true. They just delete some random posts to fuel the conspiracy :p
Lapse
20-12-2005, 01:47
The problem with all the theories in this thread, as I see it, is that they are still here. When people have gotten things right before, the post has disappeared (#1237, 1238 and 1239, page 83).

Or our current theories could be right and they've given up on delegating them.

Or none of them were right, and they deleted speculations just for fun.

Mods are sneaky critters.
heh, that reminds me of some n00b I pissd off a long time ago
HC Eredivisie
20-12-2005, 15:00
The problem with all the theories in this thread, as I see it, is that they are still here. When people have gotten things right before, the post has disappeared (#1237, 1238 and 1239, page 83).

Or our current theories could be right and they've given up on deleting them.

Or none of them were right, and they deleted speculations just for fun.

Mods are sneaky critters.
Actually, the mods did not delete my post, I just put that there as a joke.

Well, at least I think I did:confused:
The Magyar Peoples
21-12-2005, 00:29
*Smiles all-knowingly*
Moorington
21-12-2005, 23:21
*Smiles all-knowingly*

About Max Barry or his/her secret attraction to MB, I think violet isn't Max Barry since he probably thinks we are all losers who should be buying (and reading) his books.
The Magyar Peoples
22-12-2005, 02:03
*Smiles all-knowingly*

I have a radio in my car.:)
Czardas
22-12-2005, 03:44
So... wait...

Sal is Max, who is married to Jennifer, known around here as [violet]and is having an affair with TMGH...

Have I got that right? Sounds like a perfectly reasonable conspiracy theory to me!
It's not much more far-fetched than a lot of the other crap, er, educated guesses that get thrown around here... ;)
Kaetoria
27-12-2005, 08:17
The world may never know.
Lapse
27-12-2005, 10:32
The world may never know.
The world is nothing but a lump of rock and thus it is impossible for it to know...
Kwaswhakistan
28-12-2005, 06:03
The world is nothing but a lump of rock

Can you prove that!?
Lapse
28-12-2005, 07:35
yes I can
Kwaswhakistan
29-12-2005, 01:50
Oh, ok then. That shoots my theory down the drain. Wait.. is a drain a hole..?
Goobergunchia
29-12-2005, 01:53
Well, the Sun is a mass of incandescant gas.....
Lapse
30-12-2005, 09:32
Max Barry might be a mass of incandescant gas.....

TSIMB!!!!
Eranmane
10-01-2006, 18:05
Quotes:
I've said this before. I'm Max Barry. Why do you think that I need a mask to hide my identity? And why do you think that I am so secretive about what other nations/accounts I may control?

max barry isent [violet] or [dreadd] he is just a normal nation, not a mod, not a admin, just an undercover regular nation. just like all of us.

Code Contributed by:
Gregory Rubin (link to Salusa page)

About Max Barry or his/her secret attraction to MB, I think violet isn't Max Barry since he probably thinks we are all losers who should be buying (and reading) his books.


There.
Lapse
11-01-2006, 06:54
Quotes:





[snip]
There.
Gregory Rubin is different to Max barry
SalusaSecondus
11-01-2006, 09:47
Gregory Rubin is different to Max barry
Hah! You fell for my trickery! (Or maybe that's what I want you to think? (Or maybe that's what I want you to think?))
Eranmane
12-01-2006, 15:58
Gregory Rubin is different to Max barry

Yes, so Salusa is different to Max Barry. (the oppisite of what Salusa wants us to think)
Lapse
13-01-2006, 13:15
Hah! You fell for my trickery! (Or maybe that's what I want you to think? (Or maybe that's what I want you to think?))
or maybe that's what I want you to think?
HC Eredivisie
13-01-2006, 14:25
or maybe that's what I want you to think?
or maybe that's what i think you want me to think
Czardas
13-01-2006, 18:11
or maybe that's what i think you want me to think
Or maybe that's what Max wants me to want you to think that.... wait a minute...
Haraki
21-01-2006, 15:53
Actually, the about page just says Software Architecture by Geoff Wong of Zikzak Technologies. It says nothing about him being or not being [violet].
HC Eredivisie
21-01-2006, 17:12
The About Page says:

[violet] = Geoff Wong

Why? Because Zikzak Tecnologies is an Austraillian Company.



Salusa = Gregory Rubin

Why? Simple confession.


So, we end this ongoing thread. We now know, no current admin is Max. The new one is kind of a late entry.
That's what they want us to think we think
Anagonia
21-01-2006, 18:08
I still say [Violet] is Max Barry's wife. So, you know, stop with the Jibba Jabba!

Lol.... *runs* I know the truth!
HC Eredivisie
21-01-2006, 19:26
Stop it with the "person wants us to think that person wants us to think that person is Max who wants us to think that person is admin/mod/Max" talk.


P.S: Only admins can access the code. If it's true that Austraillia is the home of this famous admin, we've found our admin. (Geoff Wong, that is!)


You're [Violet], for only she has the power to make a darkblue box containing hidden messages:eek:
INoMIV:eek:

*bows*
The Most Glorious Hack
21-01-2006, 21:34
Eh, that's an old trick.

Funny... thought these boxes used to be black...
Anagonia
21-01-2006, 23:00
You know, Violet is still Max Barry's wife!
Lapse
22-01-2006, 11:28
It's my first time using them. Ask someone else
I see a distinct lack of question to ask...
HC Eredivisie
22-01-2006, 13:33
Shut up. I'm just someone who can use a forum. (so don't bow at me, and look for a real admin) If you want a dark blue box, just type:

hidden text

And yes, I also know how to type forum commands without actually using them.
I knew it

Only the true Admin would deny being the Admin[/Monthy Python]:p
Czardas
22-01-2006, 14:21
You're [Violet], for only she has the power to make a darkblue box containing hidden messages:eek:
INoMIV:eek:

*bows*
Not true! I can do it too! And so can Lapse, Anagonia, HC Eredivisie, The Most Glorious Hack... but that's because we're all [violet]! Mwahahaha! ;-]
Daft Viagria
22-01-2006, 14:32
Violet is Hack Nike's girlfriend.

Not so sure about [violet]...
Violet is a colour, Max is a writer, Nike is shoes, Hack is bad stuff ppl do on pcs
Kwaswhakistan
22-01-2006, 21:24
Shut up. I'm just someone who can use a forum. (so don't bow at me, and look for a real admin) If you want a dark blue box, just type:

hidden text

And yes, I also know how to type forum commands without actually using them.


Somebody is obviously trying to hide something

What if this is [violet]: :gundge:

WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!!!!
Moorington
22-01-2006, 23:08
Quotes:









There.
Cool first time anyone has ever quoted me, I feel so smart now.
Puppet nr 784512
28-01-2006, 12:44
I've heard people saying Max Barry is God.. And since Pope Benedictus XVI said in his first encyclical that God is Love.. Can we conclude that Max Barry actually is Love, and close this thread???
Flibbleites
28-01-2006, 17:53
But this thread isn't about figuring out who Max barry is, it's about figuring out who [violet] is.
Irish Nations of Meame
28-01-2006, 20:23
And I know.

So, don't worry, I might post it again in a while.


[violet] is not Max
Salusa is not Max
Max is probably under cover.
TRUE: There is a nation called Greater Maxtopia
TRUE: Salusa said he would take control over the site temporarily if Max died.
I deleted the post that had [violet]s identity.
And, just to let you know, Salusa is called Gregory Rubin and claims to work for Amazon.com


And, some info:
The about page tells all.
[violet]'s home country is Austraillia
You may never find Max, but if his first nation was as obvious as 'Maxtopia' he should be easy to track.


[violet] = Geoff Wong
HC Eredivisie
28-01-2006, 22:20
We can use simple logic to prove [Violet] is or is not Max Barry. We use the logic: if A = C and B = C then A = B.

[Violet] = Admin (A)
Ballotonia = Defender (B)
Max = Player (C)
Hack = Moderator (D)

We also know that:

NS was based in Australia (E)
Ballotonia is Dutch (F)
Jolt is British (G)
Admin =/= Moderator (H)

Because an Admin isn't going to be a moderator A =/= D, therefore Hack =/= [Violet].
NS was based in Australia (E) and Jolt is British (G), so Ballotonia is not [Violet] (1) for he is Dutch (F) and would not host a game in Australia.
Furthermore we know that Ballotonia is a defender (B), just like other players. Now, Max is a player (C), so Max might be Ballotonia, B= C. But: following from E, F and 1 we know this isn't true, Ballotonia =/= Max.
We do know that Ballotonia is a secret moderator and per H we again see that Ballotonia cannot be an Admin for this would contradict statement H.
But we do know [Violet] is from Australia and NS was hosted there, so A = E.
And we know Max is from Australia just like NS, so C = E. Therefore if A = E = C, we get that A = E, meaning that [Violet] = Max.
Irish Nations of Meame
28-01-2006, 22:34
And we know Max is from Australia just like NS, so C = E. Therefore if A = E = C, we get that A = E, meaning that [Violet] = Max.

I don't know a thing about Max. All I know is that a mod confessed that an admin was in Australia:
It's the middle of the night in Australia, but if [violet] wakes up, she'll check her e-mail.

Does Max live there? If no is your answer or if Max was not there during Thanksgiving (the time of this of which the server was down and posted that quote), [violet] is not Max Barry.

[violet]'s identity can be revealed by looking for a Software Architect working with an Australian company.
Nebuleux
29-01-2006, 16:43
If you look at Mr. Geoff Wong's resume, you can find an interesting phrase in his other interests secion:

Game theory - I'm especially interested in political games which computers can't (yet) solve competently
Irish Nations of Meame
29-01-2006, 20:54
YES! One point to the [violet] is Geoff Wong theory.

Next...

And of course, I will say this again, I knew it!! I just deleted the posts.

[violet] is Geoff Wong
Flibbleites
29-01-2006, 22:45
YES! One point to the [violet] is Geoff Wong theory.

Next...

And of course, I will say this again, I knew it!! I just deleted the posts.
So, how do you know that Geoff Wong isn't an author who uses Max Barry as a pen name?
Irish Nations of Meame
30-01-2006, 09:20
So, how do you know that Geoff Wong isn't an author who uses Max Barry as a pen name?

Don't know a thing about Max... Only heard of him when I found this game...

[violet] = Geoff Wong. This will be in my signature.
The Islands of Qutar
30-01-2006, 09:43
Their pictures are different. End of story.
Lapse
30-01-2006, 12:58
Don't know a thing about Max... Only heard of him when I found this game...
yet 7you claim to be the ultimate maximologist...

hmm... A whole new field of science, maximology
Irish Nations of Meame
30-01-2006, 16:43
yet 7you claim to be the ultimate maximologist...

I just know, that [violet] is not Max Barry. It's simple. If someone called Max called ther nation 'Maxtopia', the second should be easy to find. If someone claimed an admin was from Austraillia, and someone from Austraillia worked on the game, there is a 75% chance that they are the same (unless there are more admins than 2, and Salusa lives in Seattle). Then, there is the quotes post by Eranmane. There are few awswers to the Max question, but other people post them and I collect them. Max probably has posted several times, with false trails and puppets nobody would guess. But finally, there is two nations I found. Someone who copied Max could have used the names, but it is:

Greater Maxtopia
Maxtopia1

Are these puppets of Maxtopia with the original name, a genuine Max Barry? Or just someone who read the book? It's up to you.

I deny ever LOOKING at the nations, but I name searched 'Maxtopia' and found it.


I also would like to say, that closing time is near for this thread.

[violet] = Geoff Wong
Banduria
30-01-2006, 18:39
Unless Greater Maxtopia is, in fact, Max, it would be deleted by the mods for impersonating an admin. Perhaps, even if it is Max it would be deleted, as a blind...

Well, since this Geoff Wong bloke was the 'software architect' -- whatever that means -- it follows that he must have some sort of a role in the game. You don't write something like NS and then forget about it. ;) I'm betting on him being either [dredd] or [violet] (or possibly Sarzonia, as someone once mentioned something about him having no sense of humour -- just kidding Sarz... ;)).
Kwaswhakistan
30-01-2006, 21:19
I just know, that [violet] is not Max Barry. It's simple. If someone called Max called ther nation 'Maxtopia', the second should be easy to find. If someone claimed an admin was from Austraillia, and someone from Austraillia worked on the game, there is a 75% chance that they are the same (unless there are more admins than 2, and Salusa lives in Seattle). Then, there is the quotes post by Eranmane. There are few awswers to the Max question, but other people post them and I collect them. Max probably has posted several times, with false trails and puppets nobody would guess. But finally, there is one nation I found. Someone who copied Max could have used the name, but it is:

Greater Maxtopia

Is this a puppet of Maxtopia with the original name, a genuine Max Barry? Or just someone who read the book? It's up to you.

I deny ever LOOKING at the nation, but I name searched 'Maxtopia' and found it.


I also would like to say, that closing time is near for this thread.


You speak lies! It's all a farse! You are trying to silence us by threatening the end is near.. well I too say it is near... Max will return!! MWAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Irish Nations of Meame
30-01-2006, 21:24
Max will return!!

He's probably already here.....

Does anyone think that false trails are being led? I mean, I saw a proposal in the UN (Death to Max Barry) but does anyone think that Max is trying to hide himself with something like that?
Kwaswhakistan
30-01-2006, 22:08
There is no spoon. Max is the spoon. Therefore, there is no max.
Lapse
31-01-2006, 14:22
Greater Maxtopia
Maxtopia1

Is these puppets of Maxtopia with the original name, a genuine Max Barry? Or just someone who read the book? It's up to you.

I deny ever LOOKING at the nations, but I name searched 'Maxtopia' and found it.


I also would like to say, that closing time is near for this thread.
bah, impersonaters

Okay, I heard from a friend who corresponded with Max via email at one point that Max is a member of Gamearena.com.au forums
His supposed username there, is Gambit

now, I dunno whether or not he was bullshitting, but it may be another lead...
DrunkenDove
01-02-2006, 15:50
it follows that he must have some sort of a role in the game. You don't write something like NS and then forget about it.

Max has said that he got serious help in learning to programme. The link, perhaps?
Irish Nations of Meame
01-02-2006, 16:08
Max has said that he got serious help in learning to programme. The link, perhaps?

So, Geoff (aka [violet]) thought Max how to programme, then Max revealed himself as Maxtopia, abandoned it, and now cannot be found?

Or, Max = Gregory Rubin (Salusa)?

Or, Geoff = Gregory Rubin, Max = [violet]?

Or, Salusa = Gregory Rubin, Geoff = [violet] and Max is undercover?


Or, last but not least: [dredd] = Geoff Wong, Salusa = Gregory Rubin, [violet] has yet to be revealed, and Max is undercover?


So many possibilities, so little answers.

The truth shall be realeased with NationStates 2

[violet] is not Max. The end of this. But who is Max?
CivilRightsLovefest
04-02-2006, 00:31
The right answer is that Max Barry is me...:sniper: :D
Kwaswhakistan
04-02-2006, 02:14
It's true.
Euroslavia
04-02-2006, 02:19
He's probably already here.....

Does anyone think that false trails are being led? I mean, I saw a proposal in the UN (Death to Max Barry) but does anyone think that Max is trying to hide himself with something like that?

It was with great joy that I deleted that proposal. ;)
Lapse
04-02-2006, 03:27
So Meame, where does [Mantle] fit into this?
Irish Nations of Meame
04-02-2006, 12:27
So Meame, where does [Mantle] fit into this?

I am not experienced with NS. Anyone who has seen that admin might put forward an idea. (And my guess with [dredd] was taken from the fact that [dredd] only had 3 posts)

But like I said, NS2. Using the same admin names would be confusing, I think...
Lapse
05-02-2006, 02:30
well... we only need wait another 5 years before NS2 comes out...:rolleyes:
Great Britain---
05-02-2006, 02:56
well... we only need wait another 5 years before NS2 comes out...:rolleyes:


Or just play Cyber Nation's, it's more or less an extension of NS with so many NS players/alliances being transferred over to that game aswell.
Lapse
05-02-2006, 10:52
Or just play Cyber Nation's, it's more or less an extension of NS with so many NS players/alliances being transferred over to that game aswell.
cyber nations...

I play NS: Battlegrounds..

see link in my sig
Irish Nations of Meame
07-02-2006, 19:08
well... we only need wait another 5 years before NS2 comes out...:rolleyes:

Actually, that is possible, but I won't be playing. :(

So........ Back to the point. [violet] is not Max. What nation is Max? Geoff Wong = [violet]?

Why is this a sticky?
I think s/he just enjoys watching us guess.
Tatarica
07-02-2006, 19:29
s/he just wants us to get to that 100 pages already

Also, I think Irish Nations of Meame is Max :D
Daft Viagria
07-02-2006, 19:40
Max is Max.
Give him/her some space.
Space = happy people ,,,
Happy people = creative people,,,
Creative people = happy people.
Irish Nations of Meame
07-02-2006, 19:42
Also, I think Irish Nations of Meame is Max :D

If I was Max, my signature would say 'Buy Jennifer Government', I'd be in the NSwiki, and I would not be called 'Irish Nations'.

Why do people think I am an admin/Max?
Flibbleites
08-02-2006, 05:24
If I was Max, my signature would say 'Buy Jennifer Government', I'd be in the NSwiki, and I would not be called 'Irish Nations'. No that's all a cover up to try to make us believe that you're not Max.
Lapse
08-02-2006, 09:34
because you deny it
HC Eredivisie
08-02-2006, 15:30
only the true Max would deny being the Max
that looks weirdO_0
Irish Nations of Meame
08-02-2006, 16:02
only the true Max would deny being the Max
that looks weirdO_0

Not again...

I have no writing skill. You say I am Max? Well, in that case, why don't you think North Cahalane is a puppet of Kekeria? (I have had to say this several times: I am not an admin, but I am North Cahalane. But not Kekeria, and not Max Barry)

I am who I say I am. And I am not Max. And if I am not Max, I am who I say who I am. And you don't know who I am. I am who I say I am.

Not Max.
Oghin
08-02-2006, 17:04
And who exactly is North Cahalane?

My own belief is that the true Max would say that he is Max, therefore no-one believing him that he is indee Max :confused:
Irish Nations of Meame
08-02-2006, 17:06
And who exactly is North Cahalane?

The nation belonging to the person controlling Kekeria's cousin.
Oghin
08-02-2006, 17:10
How old is Irish Nations of Meame (puppets or main) in NationStates?
Irish Nations of Meame
08-02-2006, 17:13
How old is Irish Nations of Meame (puppets or main) in NationStates?

Check the join date of Eranmane. He might have posted a while ago. EDIT: Nov 2005, North Cahalane around a small bit earlier...
UNIverseVERSE
08-02-2006, 22:28
Try this one:

I am Max

According to post number 1480, this statement means I am Max, as the true Max would say he is Max, so nobody would believe him.

But...

I am not Max

According to post number 1479, this statement means that I am not Max, but according to post number 1478, this statement means I am Max.

Also...

Read this

According to post number 1436, this means I'm [violet], but, according to the post quoted in post number 1443, I'm not. Have I confused you lot yet?

Finally, I think that [dredd] is Geoff Wong.

As an afterthought, try calculating the mean, median, and range of all the post numbers in this post; and this post's number as well, if you insist.
Irish Nations of Meame
08-02-2006, 23:10
Try this one:

I am Max

According to post number 1480, this statement means I am Max, as the true Max would say he is Max, so nobody would believe him.

But...

I am not Max

According to post number 1479, this statement means that I am not Max, but according to post number 1478, this statement means I am Max.

Also...

Read this

According to post number 1436, this means I'm [violet], but, according to the post quoted in post number 1443, I'm not. Have I confused you lot yet?



Yes you pretty much have it planned out there. I am not Max Barry. I am not [violet]. I am not [dredd]. I am not Gregory Rubin. I am not Salusa. (And, if anyone from Syndicate is reading this: I am not Kekeria)
Tatarica
09-02-2006, 00:47
When you say that you are not Max you deny the fact that you are indeed Max, therefore you are Max.

We now have to find out who is [violet] :rolleyes:


But let's say that you are indeed not Max. What other moderator your real identity would be? :D


*edit* Yay 100 pages, now the mods can tell us who Max, [violet] and any other unknown factor in the ecuation really is
Kwaswhakistan
09-02-2006, 01:56
Max is Max.
Give him/her some space.
Space = happy people ,,,
Happy people = creative people,,,
Creative people = happy people.

omg.. the next thing to come in your equation is happy people = space... like.. up in space.. now you are saying that max is outer space!?? OMG!
Lapse
09-02-2006, 13:22
MAX IS A MARTIAN :eek:

it all makes sense now... that sly glance of his... his anti capitalist sentiments, his unusual antennea...
HC Eredivisie
09-02-2006, 15:33
MAX IS A MARTIAN :eek:

it all makes sense now... that sly glance of his... his anti capitalist sentiments, his unusual antennea...
but what about his green skin color?
Tatarica
09-02-2006, 16:52
The mods painted him in green at the april fools day or that's what I heard... :rolleyes:

If Max is indeed a martian.. then as Lapse said, it all makes sense... and I have this feeling that some of the mods knew this all along.. :p

*watches as the mods/Max/[violet] gets angry and starts messing with my nation's stats* aaaaaaaaaaaaah I give up!!
Irish Nations of Meame
09-02-2006, 17:36
*watches as the mods/Max/[violet] gets angry and starts messing with my nation's stats* aaaaaaaaaaaaah I give up!!

*Looks at Issues: Easter Egg: Max is Geoff Wong is Salusa, What do you think?*

:) Just Joking.
Tatarica
09-02-2006, 23:59
A very influential member of our community that wishes to remain annonimous right now told me that a mod went to a specific page from these 100 and edited a specific post with the answer. However the edit is so small that it might pass unnoticed.
* watches as Irish Nations of Meame hides something *
Or it may be another prank.. or not? :unsure:
Kwaswhakistan
10-02-2006, 05:48
Time to read through all of the pages again!!!! I WILL KNOW THE ANSWER!
Irish Nations of Meame
10-02-2006, 09:37
* watches as Irish Nations of Meame hides something *


[violet] = Geoff Wong

Look for a post like that. Your answer is there...
Smokey the NSer
10-02-2006, 17:15
The truth is out there. I'm more interested in preventing forum fires, however. I'm not Max, by the way. He's not nearly as good-looking a bear as I am.
Tatarica
11-02-2006, 00:59
The truth is out there. I'm more interested in preventing forum fires, however. I'm not Max, by the way. He's not nearly as good-looking a bear as I am.


Then are you Dredd, Smokey?
Lapse
11-02-2006, 09:35
A very influential member of our community that wishes to remain annonimous right now told me that a mod went to a specific page from these 100 and edited a specific post with the answer. However the edit is so small that it might pass unnoticed.
* watches as Irish Nations of Meame hides something *
Or it may be another prank.. or not? :unsure:
okay, I'll do the first 25 pages, Tatarica does the next 25, Kwas does the next 25 and HC-e does the final 25

feel free to subcontract the work to others...

we will find it!!!


... although, how will we tell the difference between a mod writing "XYZ is Max Barry" and someone else writing "XYZ is Max Barry"
Irish Nations of Meame
11-02-2006, 12:14
I dont think the mods know who [Violet] is... I think they're just bluffing! 8)

IT'S THE TRUTH!!!


[violet] is Neutered Sputniks!!! :o

[violet] is admin@Modling Edit.lu.dl.cox.net * [violet]
Neutered_Sputniks is nunya@Modling Edit.lu.dl.cox.net * riiiight

They are one and the same!!! :o

I removed the IP addresses to prevent people from using them for computer/hacking attacks. -- SalusaSecondus

Interesting conversation on IRC earlier...


[8:53pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; interesting
[8:53pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; Max said he used to work on Shattered World
[8:54pm]«@ Unfree_People » so he did
[8:54pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; and on the about page, it says the game was partly coded by Zikzak
[8:54pm]«@ Unfree_People » and?
[8:54pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; well... the zikzak link takes you to the Shattered World website...
[8:54pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; and when you look at the coders for Shattered World, who should be there but 'Dredd'
[8:55pm]«@ Unfree_People » Ooh.
[8:55pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; 'Dredd' = Geoff Wong
[8:55pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; so i was right
[8:56pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; [dredd] is geoff wong
[8:56pm]«@ Unfree_People » who is geoff wong?
[8:56pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; the guy accredited to helping code NationStates
[8:56pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; also, there is a programmer on the list there called 'Trax'
[8:56pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; with no real name or contact info
[8:56pm]«@ Unfree_People » Uh
[8:57pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; there is a surname in the @RANDOMNAME@ which is 'Trax'
[8:57pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; Max = Trax perhaps?
[8:57pm]«@ Unfree_People » ..sure
[8:57pm]«@ Unfree_People » that doesn't help us find out who his nation is, though
[8:58pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; still
[8:58pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; is interesting
[8:58pm]«@ Unfree_People » hmm yeah
[8:58pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; we at least know who [dredd] is
[8:58pm]«@ Unfree_People » not that dredd actually does anything
[8:59pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; also, Max's domain name on the IRC chat was .bigpond.net.au
[9:00pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; and guess what the admin's e-mail for Shattered World is?
[9:00pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; trice@bigpond.net.au
[9:00pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; interesting, hmmm?
[9:00pm]«@ Unfree_People » maybe they know each other
[9:00pm]«@ Unfree_People » and thats how max got interested in it
[9:00pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; I'll save this all in a notepad file for the next maxchat... hehe
[9:00pm] &lt;+Myrth&gt; should make for some good conversations
[9:00pm]«@ Unfree_People » lol


Have you read the alternate text for the Max Barry pictures?

Max lurks in the shadows, waiting to strike

:lol:


I think [violet] is a shared account by all the mods and max barry, max barry is Neutered Sputniks

i am [purple]
I knew it, [purple] is [violet] so you are trying to force the burden on ME!

Violet cannot be the below, they are all online right now, and violet is too.

Abu-Dhabi Khristatata, Academear, Allemonde, Allstonland, Aquilla, Armeggedon, Ascetic Erudites, Ashua Valley, Aviopia, BabaMataLonia, Bacchical, Beer-Swilling Rednecks, Bigmenistan, Britmattia, Chesterjay, Citagazze, Colerica, Commerce Heights, Corvida, Cottonisking, Credonia, Cthulhu_fhtagn, Dominancy, Doujin, Dundaine, Eredron, Foe Hammer, Foofetahria, Foxxinnia, Fuggolia, Giant Zucchini, Glam Rockers, Grimdale, Hapkido and Grappling, Har Land, Hatchibombitar, Hawkin, HE HATE ME, Hot KimChi, Hudecia, Hutu, Isla Saudade, Itzhakistan, Khenala, King Binks, Langham, Larkinia, Letila, Listonethes, Lurtz, MabenLand, Mad Fools, Meribel, Mirkai, Monkeypimp, Myrth, Naleth, Negatronia, Neo Nuria, New Boniventure, New Martial Sparta, Northern Dalmatia, Not Japan, Nova Cape Breton, Obscure Nation, Omz222, Onn, Parratoga, Paxania, PCCoke, Phalanix, Raem, Raysia, Reagani, RichfieldMN, Samtonia, Scolopendra, Seibel Ambrosiana, Shildonia, Shinoxia, Sizzle, Skullzz, Soriyac, Soviet Transylvania, Spherical objects, Spiritual Anarchy, Stfrn, Sydia, Tactical Grace, Terrastralis, The Evil Overlord, The Gunslingers, The Last Anarchy Order, The Lowcountry, The Saddamized States, The Smoking Man, The Vecne Mesto, The wandering cooks, The Zoogie People, TROUSRS, TYG, UberRepublicans, United Arms, Urkish People, Walten, Weitzel, Western Might, Westminster, World Aryan Domination, Wunderkinder, Zvarinograd


Time to start the old quotes post again, too bad Eranmane CTE'd.
DeltaOne
11-02-2006, 13:26
I can't seem to find the answer!

Maybe we acted too late and they changed back the message?
Tatarica
11-02-2006, 13:33
Max lurks in the shadows, waiting to strike

We now have enough proof that Max is an Invader :o