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Corsairio
14-03-2004, 05:03
Max Barry trancends this space. He is an intanglible title of a man actually name Bax Marry :lol:
Qaaolchoura
14-03-2004, 05:23
Mayhaps Max Barry is actually a strange creature that steals people's souls and is in the process of using them to create NS2
Ahh, it all makes sense now! :idea: :twisted:
Lapse
14-03-2004, 08:13
For the record, this thread has survived for 1000 posts
BLARGistania
14-03-2004, 08:20
true dat

is [violet] a nation, because I haven't found it yet.
Lapse
14-03-2004, 08:32
[violet] is a forum account. s/he does not exist in the game as a nation, but is rather just an admin account for the forum part of it.
BLARGistania
14-03-2004, 08:52
ah
HC Eredivisie
14-03-2004, 11:02
Mayhaps Max Barry is actually a strange creature that steals people's souls and is in the process of using them to create NS2
Ahh, it all makes sense now! :idea: :twisted:

indeed, the sacrifice thread in general, the DEATion of countries, MX uknown identity :shock:
Huzen Hagen
15-03-2004, 11:39
[violet] is not Max Barry! If you look at the 'This page cannot be displayed' sticky it has a transcript of an internet convo that included Max and [violet] simultaneously[sp?]
Myrth
15-03-2004, 11:50
[violet] is not Max Barry! If you look at the 'This page cannot be displayed' sticky it has a transcript of an internet convo that included Max and [violet] simultaneously[sp?]

[violet] was Neut playing around :P
Much the same, [dredd] was Hack playing around :wink:
Lapse
15-03-2004, 11:55
therfore:
[violet] = ?
[Dredd]= ??
neut==???
hack=??
Therfore, based on the above statements, i assume karmbijana is max barry. how ELSE would have karma have been able to organise it. ....
Myrth
15-03-2004, 11:58
It is safe to assume Max would have an admin account, and seeing as wel know [dredd] is Geoff Wong, [violet] must be Max!
Think about it, every time we state that VIMB, the mods jump in to cover it up...
Alamein
15-03-2004, 12:15
Cover-up?
AAAAGH!
*runs and hides behind a bush*

Oh, and hi, Myrth.
The Most Glorious Hack
15-03-2004, 14:35
It is safe to assume Max would have an admin account, and seeing as wel know [dredd] is Geoff Wong, [violet] must be Max!
Think about it, every time we state that VIMB, the mods jump in to cover it up...

Of course we do.
Corsairio
16-03-2004, 05:50
the mods do it because they are, paraphrasing Max Barry, goofballs.
Myrth
18-03-2004, 05:12
Perhaps I am Max Barry...

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=myrth
Fengate
18-03-2004, 05:20
I'm still me, right?

*looks around suspiciously*
Reploid Productions
18-03-2004, 05:38
Max Barry's birthday is tomorrow! ^_^ (March 18th)
Attitude 910
18-03-2004, 07:06
Max Barry's birthday is tomorrow! ^_^ (March 18th)

Wow my brother birthday is tomorrow
my friends dad's birthday is tomorrow
and reppy you were founded a year ago tomorrow

WOW :D
Unfree People
18-03-2004, 07:09
*gasp* And my birthday was two weeks ago!! That must mean... ::drum roll:: ... UPIMB!!!

edit: and my nation's birthday is in a week! this further proves my conclusion!!!
Attitude 910
18-03-2004, 07:12
*gasp* And my birthday was two weeks ago!! That must mean... ::drum roll:: ... UPIMB!!!

:shock:
BackwoodsSquatches
21-03-2004, 11:58
Psssst...

Hey..

Bub...

I'll let ya in on some top secret information.

You remember a while ago, when Barry was doing that book tour, in Iowa?
It seems he got drunk with a few Nationstates players, afterwards.
One of them.....was in my region.
He asked Barry if he was Violet.
Barry said no..he wasnt.
He then asked who Barry's nation was....
Barry was a little evasive...then bought the pitchers..and refused to let my regionmate buy the next ones.

But..he did reveal this....

He does have a nation.
He's not a mod, or an admin.
He does use the general forum from time to time.
Hes also..pretty anti-capitalist. (duh....read Jennifer Government)

So...you wanna know who Barry is?

Keep an eye out for a very anti-capitalist poster, that uses the general forums...on an irregular basis.

Deductive reasoning.

That'll be ten bucks.
Aartrijke
21-03-2004, 12:05
Away with capitalism!!!


:lol:
Karmabaijan
22-03-2004, 10:01
Psssst...

Hey..

Bub...

I'll let ya in on some top secret information.

You remember a while ago, when Barry was doing that book tour, in Iowa?
It seems he got drunk with a few Nationstates players, afterwards.
One of them.....was in my region.
He asked Barry if he was Violet.
Barry said no..he wasnt.
He then asked who Barry's nation was....
Barry was a little evasive...then bought the pitchers..and refused to let my regionmate buy the next ones.

But..he did reveal this....

He does have a nation.
He's not a mod, or an admin.
He does use the general forum from time to time.
Hes also..pretty anti-capitalist. (duh....read Jennifer Government)

So...you wanna know who Barry is?

Keep an eye out for a very anti-capitalist poster, that uses the general forums...on an irregular basis.

Deductive reasoning.

That'll be ten bucks.

I was there,
You could not be further from, or closer to, the Truth.
HC Eredivisie
27-03-2004, 21:02
i know but i won't tell
Jackuul
29-03-2004, 08:10
perhaps Max is dead? Like weekend at berneys, and somone is pretending to be him.
The Atheists Reality
31-03-2004, 12:13
from reading it seems that violet is not max barry, but max has a nation, which is probably around the nov-dec mark
Lapse
31-03-2004, 12:22
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2975093#2975093

HC eridsvale??
HC Eredivisie
31-03-2004, 15:56
I answered.
Ballotonia
31-03-2004, 17:28
from reading it seems that violet is not max barry, but max has a nation, which is probably around the nov-dec mark

What makes you think Max wouldn't edit his nation's creation date as well as its population in order to avoid detection? Or maybe switch nations so once in a while?

Ballotonia
Goobergunchia
01-04-2004, 05:56
I wonder how tonight's new titles bear on this.... :twisted:
The Atheists Reality
16-04-2004, 09:59
from reading it seems that violet is not max barry, but max has a nation, which is probably around the nov-dec mark

What makes you think Max wouldn't edit his nation's creation date as well as its population in order to avoid detection? Or maybe switch nations so once in a while?

Ballotonia

lets just hope he wouldn't go to those lengths to defy us!
Ballotonia
16-04-2004, 12:08
lets just hope he wouldn't go to those lengths to defy us!

Max defying us ? Sounds like the world upside-down to me. By attempting to uncover his hidden identity in the game, we are the ones who are defying Max! Fun, isn't it? ;)

Ballotonia
18-04-2004, 02:24
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HC Eredivisie
18-04-2004, 10:45
you mean he's got a personality disorder. :roll: :wink:
Myrth
19-04-2004, 08:37
I KNOW AND YOU ALL DON'T!

[ridiculous cackling]
Lapse
19-04-2004, 08:57
*smacks Myrth*
HC Eredivisie
19-04-2004, 13:58
*pokes Lapse*

Tell us Myrth, you know how it is like for us to not know.
Aquilla
25-04-2004, 03:15
You've already been told once in this thread, I'm not going to say it again
Kwaswhakistan
25-04-2004, 06:09
Max Barry is a super-uber-intelligent computer, not a person, and is plotting to steal all of our nation passwords!!!!!!!!1111


BTW, why is this in technical....?


Kwas out.


I know and you all don't.
Endorsements
30-04-2004, 18:26
Max said that one of the theories in here was correct :shock: now we have to find the right one :evil:
HC Eredivisie
01-05-2004, 13:00
shut up :evil:
30-05-2004, 20:18
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Goobergunchia
30-05-2004, 21:18
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2975093#2975093

HC eridsvale??

HC eredsklf speaks german. Does max speak german...

I'm fairly sure Max doesn't speak German, given:

<Melkor> "<Compound_Interest> How do you feel about the strange way in which the layout and the title of your book changed during translation?"
<MaxBarry> I think here you're talking about how the German version of Jennifer Government is very different to the US/Commonwealth one
<Compound_Interest> Yes, thats what I ment
<MaxBarry> It's called "Logoland" and there's a picture of it at http://www.maxbarry.com/jennifergovernment/international.html
<MaxBarry> It's always a bit weird getting translated
<MaxBarry> Because I've written a book that I can't read
<MaxBarry> When a book is translated, often the publisher will want to change the title to something they think will work better in their country
<MaxBarry> In fact, even if a book isn't translated, they still might rename it for the UK or Australia or whereever
<Compound_Interest> So you don't think the layout or title is horrible?
<MaxBarry> So the German publisher decided that "Jennifer Reigerund" (or whatever the German word for "government" is) sounded bad, and "logoland" sounded better
<MaxBarry> Now, I have no idea if that sounds better to German ears or not. I know it sounds kind of lame to Australian ears. :)
<Karmabaijan> Thanks for the question Compound_Interest.
<MaxBarry> The layout I wasn't thrilled with either -- partly because I love the cover of Jennifer Government and partly because NationStates had introduced that graphic to hundreds of thousands of people
<MaxBarry> But they've sold a lot of copies, so I guess they know what's best for German sensibilities.
HC Eredivisie
30-05-2004, 21:27
Ja, ich spreche Deutsch aber ich bin keine Deutscher. :wink:

Maar ik ben Max Barry.
TheUnitedNations
30-05-2004, 23:00
Ja, ich spreche Deutsch aber ich bin keine Deutscher. :wink:

Maar ik ben Max Barry.

Yes, I do not speak German however I am Germans. Maar ik ben max of Barry.



That is what babelfish told me.
HC Eredivisie
31-05-2004, 11:00
Babelfish is fun, it only can't translate.
03-06-2004, 15:35
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HC Eredivisie
05-06-2004, 21:16
Babelfish is fun, it only can't translate.

Should be: Babelfish is fun, only it can't translate.

Grammar man to the rescue!

ij cant spaek inglisj :P

but lads, i'm maxxie
06-06-2004, 15:43
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Enerica
06-06-2004, 18:19
It's not HC Myrth said so on IRC. And ofcourse he wouldn't lie. :wink:
Lapse
07-06-2004, 08:39
It's not HC Myrth said so on IRC. And ofcourse he wouldn't lie. :wink:MIMB?
HC Eredivisie
07-06-2004, 10:45
It's not HC Myrth said so on IRC. And ofcourse he wouldn't lie. :wink:

And what if I told him to do that? :wink:


Thank you, Cotton.
Patoxia
09-06-2004, 07:52
While looking at the UN page I noticed this:

* 4 minutes ago: The Incorporated States of Mahmoudia applied to join the UN.
* 6 minutes ago: The Republic of Ladygrove2 was admitted to the UN.
* 12 minutes ago: The Holy Empire of Pendinokio was admitted to the UN.
* 12 minutes ago: The Armed Republic of Risker was admitted to the UN.
* 14 minutes ago: The Federation of Gigatron was admitted to the UN.
* 19 minutes ago: The Empire of Rebel Dudes applied to join the UN.
* 19 minutes ago: The Nomadic Peoples of Mortdale applied to join the UN.
* 20 minutes ago: The Federation of CupRamen was admitted to the UN.
* 22 minutes ago: The Free Land of Frelandia applied to join the UN.
* 23 minutes ago: The Federation of CupRamen applied to join the UN.
Three minutes to get into the UN... Perhaps CupRamen (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=cupramen) Is Max Berry.

Unless CupRamen applied to join again then noticed the E-mail....
IIRRAAQQII
09-06-2004, 07:53
Depends on what answer she gives once asked. Did she say that she was a girl in the first place? :?:
Luckdonia
19-06-2004, 19:15
WTF????????????????????????
Max Barry is Miss Luckdonia!!!! :shock:
What does this say about the quality of our women??
I know I decided to let men enter beauty contests,but I meant as in two seperate contests!!! D'oh!!
Female asylum seekers are now encouraged!!
Nations of the world,I implore you-Send us your women!!!
Frank White,
President,
Peoples Republic Of Luckdonia
PS- Free makeover & shopping vouchers to the value of 500 Groats to the first 1000 applicants.
HC Eredivisie
16-07-2004, 21:40
[Violet] = Panzer (teh uB3r J0lt 4dm!n) O_O
Tuesday Heights
17-07-2004, 23:51
perhaps the reason Max doesnt want himself to be known here (and thus why no one is tellnig) is because if he was known, the man would be pestered by practically every person playing. Privacy is a great thing mates.

Well, that is the reason why he let Maxtopia die. He was hounded by players and it hindered his ability to play his game.
Lapse
18-07-2004, 12:18
hmm...is imported_[violet] Max Barry??

it doesnt have the right ring...
Greater Duetschand2
20-07-2004, 20:25
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I bet you that guest said who max was and the mods censored it. CENSCORSHIP! CENSCORSHIP!
West Scotland
23-07-2004, 02:46
Fools! I am Max Barry! *cackle*
Lapse
23-07-2004, 08:56
I bet you that guest said who max was and the mods censored it. CENSCORSHIP! CENSCORSHIP!
either that or it involved flaming...
HC Eredivisie
23-07-2004, 10:39
OMG!!1111 u r max barry :eek:
The Holy Word
23-07-2004, 11:45
Well, that is the reason why he let Maxtopia die. He was hounded by players and it hindered his ability to play his game.Nice attempt at a smokescreen. Tuesday Heights is Max Barry!:D
Lapse
23-07-2004, 12:32
Nice attempt at a smokescreen. Tuesday Heights is Max Barry!:D
i could believe that...
Greater Duestchland
24-07-2004, 13:29
I wonder if he even plays the game. he could be no-one? ever think of that? then again that may be unlikely. But we have to know this entire thread really is pointless. This thread is should have been titled "Who is violet and which nation is Max Barry?" If I was violet I wouldnt want to give ouy my identity, just like I am sure no one in nationstates wants to give out their true identity(except for some people) So we need to face the fact, Violet wont tell us who he/she/it really is, and Max Barry isnt going to tell us what nation he/she/it (just kidding there) is. Also, the mods wont tell us because they sit here, read this thread and laugh at us as we try to guess who he is. Heck they are probably laughing right now. Why else would they pin it? So long story short

1. we wont know who violet really is
2. we wont know what nation Mr. Barry is
3. The mods wont tell
4. as far as I know, no one else here except maybe his close friends or violets close friends know who Max, and violet are. unless of course Max is violet but we wont know that will we?

So I am just going to end this quest and give up. But of course no one else will because they are having to much fun saying "I am max barry" and having people respond "no your not, I am" But this thread has lost all seriousness, and we will never know the truth. there is no point in going on
HC Eredivisie
24-07-2004, 14:47
you ruined it :mad: :sniper: :mp5: :gundge:
Greater Duestchland
24-07-2004, 14:53
sorry, had to say it. :(:(:(
The Blue Viper II
26-07-2004, 07:53
I read an article a while ago that Monkeypimp posted a link to. It was an article in on a new Zealand news site that refered to the trouble they were having with the IP address of the old Micheal Jackson flamer from way back and how because of them all the other peope on the same thingamajig as MJ couldn't access NS.

Look, my point is in the article it definitely pointed out that [violet] WAS Max Barry (AKA Mixed Berry). What it did was refer to MB as the administrator of NS... and as far as I am aware [violet] does that job on NS, don't they?

As for the article, I'll ask monkeypimp to post the link here so you can all gawk at it.
HC Eredivisie
26-07-2004, 10:21
[dredd] is an admin too

maybe [Violet] = [dredd] = Max O_O
TROUSRS
26-07-2004, 14:28
Given:
[violet] = main admin of the game
2 out of 3 admins are listed on the "About" page
[violet] is not 1 of them

How can this be? Simple. [violet] is listed already under a different name, Max Barry.

How come [dredd] isn't Max? Again, simple. On one of max's other games, Shattered.org, [dredd] = Geoff Wong, a programmer for Zik-Zak Technologies. SalusaSecondus is the other Game Admin, listed under his real name. And [rep] is not listed on the about page.
The Most Glorious Hack
26-07-2004, 15:11
Unless, of course, Max uses an invisible account and simply doesn't post.
Lapse
27-07-2004, 13:12
Unless, of course, Max uses an invisible account and simply doesn't post.
bah.. we havent being tld the truth byb a mod for the last 50 pages or so wso we are not going to be fooled my this...Hack tries to lead us away from the violet= max thing so therefoire, The most glourious hack is max barry...he the only mod who didnt get an imported_ in front of his name...so its blandly obviouse. Hack is max barry

when you consider it, it would seem accurate tyyhat max would want to be know as someone out of his book, violent is the obvious one, but we have been told alot and subconsciously taht violet ios a she...so unless max has had a sex change, violet is not max, which leaves hack as being max.

*breathes*
The Blue Viper II
28-07-2004, 02:14
bah.. we havent being tld the truth byb a mod for the last 50 pages or so wso we are not going to be fooled my this...Hack tries to lead us away from the violet= max thing so therefoire, The most glourious hack is max barry...he the only mod who didnt get an imported_ in front of his name...so its blandly obviouse. Hack is max barry

when you consider it, it would seem accurate tyyhat max would want to be know as someone out of his book, violent is the obvious one, but we have been told alot and subconsciously taht violet ios a she...so unless max has had a sex change, violet is not max, which leaves hack as being max.

*breathes*


That.... was the most illegible thing I've ever seen you write.

My eyes hurt :(
Jack-a-nape
28-07-2004, 05:38
The answer lies in the mod center! To the batmobile!
Jack-a-nape
28-07-2004, 05:52
Also, does [violet] have a nation?
And, what was Maxtopia's population before it went bye-bye? And what's the max population ([violet], if she knows])?
Jack-a-nape
28-07-2004, 06:10
Mod pops:
[violet]: N/A
SalusaSecondus: 2.38 billion
Reploid Productions: 2.887 billion
Scolopendra: 3.287 billion (and how can he/she be so high in all stats? 0_O, with a 100% income tax and still have Excellent in Civil Rights and Superb in Political Freedoms)
Stephistan: 2.718 billion
Cogitation: 3.332 billion
Sirocco: 2.698 billion
Melkor Unchained: 3.128 billion
The Most Glorious Hack: 2.932 billion
Karmabaijan: 3.353 billion
GMC Military Arms: 3.1 billion
Menelmacar: 3.383 billion
The SLAGLands: 2.888 billion
Ineptia: 3.598 billion (Highest of the mods)
TJHairball: N/A
Tactical Grace: 2.208 billion
Myrth: 3.348 billion
Feoras: 2.877 billion (former mod)
Amerigo the mod: 2.721 billion (former mod)

What were the pops of the following?:

Retired Mods
Enodia
Neutered Sputniks
Yavin
[mantle]

Retired Admin
[dredd]

And what country has the current highest population?
The Blue Viper II
28-07-2004, 06:56
[violet] never had a nation as long as I've been around. In the old forums, whenever you clicked on their name you were automatically re-directed to your own nation.
Goobergunchia
28-07-2004, 20:44
At the time when they ceased to exist, Enodia (http://www.freewebs.com/goobergunch/Enodia.htm) had a population of 3.068 billion and Neutered Sputniks (http://www.freewebs.com/goobergunch/Neutered_Sputniks.htm) had a population of 2.677 billion.
Greater Duestchland
28-07-2004, 20:52
And what country has the current highest population?
Biggest one I know is josifovich. over 4 bil. pretty darn big.
Equality-Liberty
28-07-2004, 20:52
Well, I recall that in the previous forum, when I visited [violet]'s profile and clicked on the link to see that nation, I got my own nation back. What could that mean?
Greater Duestchland
28-07-2004, 20:54
Well, I recall that in the previous forum, when I visited [violet]'s profile and clicked on the link to see that nation, I got my own nation back. What could that mean?

doesnt have a nation under the name [Violet] ? lol. come on. I think violet has a nation but no one knows what it is. and didnt we cover this issue before hand in the post I made last page?
Stoned Smurfs
28-07-2004, 21:07
dude...
maybe its all the *CENSORED* that i have smoked but maybe, just maybe we are looking at this all the wrong way. maybe its not that max isnt [violet] but maybe [violet] is max...
hmmm....
whoa huh???
or maybe max is max...
maybe max is max and NS has taken a dive so deep into his wallet that he has to live a secret life as a stripper and his stage name is violet...
maybe i need to stop smoking and posting huh?


~Pot~
Jack-a-nape
29-07-2004, 04:23
Maybe...the fact that we got our own nation back when we clicked on [violet] was because [violet] WAS us. Or we were [violet]. Maybe [violet] is controlling all of us.

Woah...

Heh, w33d.
Huzen Hagen
01-08-2004, 11:57
Max Barry is [violet] and I can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. I used to one of the many that think the VIMB conspiracy theory is just that a theory and that it is silly to even think the MBIV but now I am a beliver.

This all started with the lengthy down time of the server, as I am off school for a while to cure my boredom I read the about and FAQ sections again and this is where I found the most of the evidence you will see before you.

From the general section in the FAQ
Why did you make this?
Because it seemed like a fun idea, and a way to let people know about my novel Jennifer Government. With luck, some of the people who play NationStates will buy the book. Then my publisher will think I am a left-field marketing genius, instead of a chump who blew four months on a web game when he should have been working on his next novel.
Notice the question says why did you make this which could imply [violet] but the author mentions Jennifer Government as "my novel" meaning that it was Max who "blew four months on a web game".
There are other pointers to the fact Max did create NS. I give you this extract from the about page

Game by:
Max Barry, author of Jennifer Government and Syrup

Can't get more obvious then that.

Now for you who say "Max is an author, not a programmer. How could he have made this game?" I give you this extract from Maxchat2

<Max> I didn't have any skills when I wrote NS, either
<Karmabaijan> thanks tnui, best get learning your coding! NEEEEEEEEEEEEXT!
<Max> I bought a book on Perl to learn how to program
<Max> I had some help getting started, and after that I kind of muddled through

Max isn't the innocent computer illiterate writer you thought he was, is he? Stunning, I know, but creating the game is different from being [violet]. Max could have just created a primitive game and got some friendly programmer to do most of the work while he writes and browses the forum as one of his puppets. Well lets turn to the nice FAQ again for more evidence this first one from the UN section.

Can I make a UN resolution to add war to the game?
No. Well, you can, but I'm still not going to add war. The UN is not there to request new game features. I admit this would be nice: propose a change, vote it through, and BAM! The game gets better. But then, I would have to make the BAM! part happen, so this won't fly. It would require me to spend so much time rewriting game code that I wouldn't be able to pursue my real passion, which is earning enough money to buy food, and staying sane.
This shows us that Max does still take an active role in the running of the game and a recent news post about the move to jolt further emphasizes this.

An update from Max

A family emergency called me away immediately after we moved to the new server, so it's been a little chaotic, sorry. Thanks so much to the mods and especially SalusaSecondus for picking up some slack and keeping this place ticking over. Sal basically had the entire admin job dropped in his lap at the most difficult time possible and he's done an outstanding job.

At the last count there were 2 Admins (or should I say admie), Sal and [violet]. Max gets called away and that causes there to be 1 admin left who has to manage the move, which is Sal. Max must be [violet]. Sal cannot be Max as in the about page Sal is named as Gregory Rubin.

[Dredd] is retired so that is Max cannot be him/her (and the fact he is Geoff Wong throws that theory out of the window) but Max is without a reasonable doubt [violet]. Both are Australian (ok not a great point but add it to the other stuff and it starts to add to the case), both are male. The later point comes straight from the mouths of 2 mods in the NationStates Bible who when pressed about it became very silent.

In conclusion:

SSIMB: nope, SS is Gregory Rubin

DIMB: Again nope, his name was geoff wong and he gets mentioned at the back of Jennifer government for telling Mac what a virus coul do/not do.

MB is a writer not a computer programmer: He knows perl (to a degree), it says at the front of the JG, on this site and in Maxchat.

Whats with the name [violet], why would max chose that? must be someone else: again JG hold the answer. In the book one if the major charcters is called violet. She is also a compute programmer extrodiair (well creates one hell of a virus) and so would probably be the most appropriate name for an admin of a game designed to promote the book.

Max is just paying for someone to take over his forum account and manage the site: well this is possible but he was already paying so much for the server (before the move) why would he pay when he is getting alot of help from the mods and other people? He isn't some bumbling fool and with all these peoples help he could easily manage this site. Another thing, if he was just paying someone to run the site would it take as much of his time as he says it does?

well thats all i can think of for now, i might come up with some more later.
Carinthe
01-08-2004, 12:15
This is all very nice, but can someone explain why this topic is in the "Technical" forum? Shouldn't this fit better in the "NationStates" forum?
HC Eredivisie
01-08-2004, 12:46
This is all very nice, but can someone explain why this topic is in the "Technical" forum? Shouldn't this fit better in the "NationStates" forum?
you are MAx Barry O_O
Goobergunchia
01-08-2004, 17:38
I think Huzen Hagen makes some very valid points, and I have also confirmed that [violet] and Max Barry have the same ISP.

This is all very nice, but can someone explain why this topic is in the "Technical" forum? Shouldn't this fit better in the "NationStates" forum?

Historical precedent, and tradition.
Mactohoncaibung
01-08-2004, 17:39
................uhhh..so wat's goin on here... :gundge:
Carinthe
01-08-2004, 18:55
................uhhh..so wat's goin on here... :gundge:

This seems to be the "[violet]=Max" spam sticky.
Komokom
02-08-2004, 11:18
I think [violet] = * GUN - SHOT *

... blood trickle across floor ...

" Gemmer ... Gem ... Gemmer ... ( dies ) "

Game staff member = :sniper: " heh heh heh "

EDIT : Well, I'm only guessing am I not ?
HC Eredivisie
02-08-2004, 11:24
ooo God :eek:

tell us who it is! J....? [Violet] = Jezus? :eek:
Komokom
02-08-2004, 11:38
Yes. That is correct. Now go read your F.A.Q. .... I mean bible, ;)
HC Eredivisie
07-08-2004, 16:01
aha...

and getting the attention of one Admin can also be difficult: we only have Max, [violet], and SalusaSecondus.

so MINV
UNIverseVERSE
17-08-2004, 13:06
even if MBIV, then what is Max Barrys nation?
HC Eredivisie
17-08-2004, 18:14
even if MBIV, then what is Max Barrys nation?
MBIFS
Goobergunchia
17-08-2004, 18:51
MBIFS

No, as AINM.
The Dohme
18-08-2004, 03:06
Good lord!
73+ pages on nothing but smoke and mirrors?
Not that I have any thing against smoke and mirrows.
SalusaSecondus
18-08-2004, 03:17
Good lord!
73+ pages on nothing but smoke and mirrors?
Not that I have any thing against smoke and mirrows.

It's a really good book by Neil Gaiman.
UNIverseVERSE
18-08-2004, 17:21
Remind me, what does AINM mean?

i personally think that MBIMU
Goobergunchia
18-08-2004, 17:36
Remind me, what does AINM mean?

i personally think that MBIMU

Australia Is Not Maryland

*wonders what MU is*
UN Multi
18-08-2004, 19:43
Australia Is Not Maryland

*wonders what MU is*
It's a typo, it should read "MBIUM", meaning: 'Max Barry Is Un Multi'
UNIverseVERSE
18-08-2004, 20:18
now I've forgotten as well
_Susa_
29-08-2004, 16:58
Max Barry... The Elusive and slippery topic that is...
Dimmimar
30-08-2004, 12:42
Ah well, Max Barry is Dredd.....
Praetonia
31-08-2004, 14:51
Why Max Barry is NOT [Violet] or Vice=Versa

This topic is not only allowed, but it is stickied. If the topic was instead called "What is Max Barry's Forum Account Called?" then it would be destroyed, as it might come to an actual conclusion. I believe that there is another admin which has never posted on the forums. If [Violet] has no nation then the only way we know about it is because it has lots of posts. Max Barry therefore must have another account that holds admin powers but either has never posts or is not recognisable as an admin.
The Mindset
31-08-2004, 15:28
[dredd] is not Max Barry. I provide you with my proof:

On the Nationstates "about" page, a man named Geoff Wong is mentioned. We can assume that he was somehow involved in the development of NS. So, let's try to find some more info about him. Googling for him reveals a site hosted by an Austrailian educational institution, http://goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au/~geoff/ We can assume that he is Austrailian, since most likely Max consulted his friends to help develop the site. Clicking the "games" link on his website (Geoff's) includes a link to the MUD Shattered World, located at http://www.shattered.org/. The admin link on this MUD points to "geoff@shattered.org, so we can assume it's the same person. Now... if we click the "Wizards" link on this site, which is their version of "game admin", we are presented with a list including..... DREDD.

Therefore, in conclusion, [dredd] cannot be Max since [dredd] is Geoff Wong of shattered.org.
Some Smoke and Mirrors
31-08-2004, 15:32
Good lord!
73+ pages on nothing but smoke and mirrors?
Indeed. :)

/me vanishes in a puff of smoke.
Myrth
31-08-2004, 15:40
[dredd] is not Max Barry. I provide you with my proof:

On the Nationstates "about" page, a man named Geoff Wong is mentioned. We can assume that he was somehow involved in the development of NS. So, let's try to find some more info about him. Googling for him reveals a site hosted by an Austrailian educational institution, http://goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au/~geoff/ We can assume that he is Austrailian, since most likely Max consulted his friends to help develop the site. Clicking the "games" link on his website (Geoff's) includes a link to the MUD Shattered World, located at http://www.shattered.org/. The admin link on this MUD points to "geoff@shattered.org, so we can assume it's the same person. Now... if we click the "Wizards" link on this site, which is their version of "game admin", we are presented with a list including..... DREDD.

Therefore, in conclusion, [dredd] cannot be Max since [dredd] is Geoff Wong of shattered.org.

I dug that out waaaaaaaaaaay before I was a mod
;)
The Mindset
31-08-2004, 15:53
Bah, I couldn't be bothered reading the entire thread before posting it. Don't dent my ego, I'm smart for figuring that out, I am. Really.
Komokom
04-09-2004, 06:13
Did we figure out who [violet] is yet ?

:eek: " I still think its J ... " :gundge: " Oh no you don't ! "
Kwaswhakistan
04-09-2004, 06:18
I still say that [violet] is a supercomputer that is simply plotting our instructions. this game is helping to further the supercomputer's plans. watch me get silenced.....

*silence*

[This post shows signs of tampering by the NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester.]
Goobergunchia
04-09-2004, 17:07
* +Goobergunch looks at UP and Kat with a gleam in his eye.
HC Eredivisie
08-09-2004, 20:33
You guys still don't know who I am?
Unfree People
08-09-2004, 21:03
* +Goobergunch looks at UP and Kat with a gleam in his eye.
/me backs slowly away, eying Goober uncertainly
Cogitation
08-09-2004, 21:14
I still say that [violet] is a supercomputer that is simply plotting our instructions. this game is helping to further the supercomputer's plans. watch me get silenced.....

*silence*

[This post shows signs of tampering by the NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester.]
/me listens.

Strange. I thought I heard something.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester
Komokom
13-09-2004, 10:52
Oh for crying out loud, I've already tried to hint that [violet] has to be J, BANG, BANG, BANG !

:mp5: <- ( Random Moderator ) " hehehehehe "

* Hmmm, Max =/= (?) [violet], the oppiate of the random Smoking Man players, ;)
HC Eredivisie
22-09-2004, 13:14
VIRTH

[This post shows signs of tampering by the NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester.]
ModAlert
22-09-2004, 20:08
*shows up in a stick-figure costume, with a paper mask of Max Barry taped over face*























*deep, mysterious voice*















"I'm Batman."

:p
Kwaswhakistan
23-09-2004, 23:29
hmm i forget what i had first said that got me silenced... anyways, we all know that [violet] is just a cron job attempting to take over the world
Neo England
23-09-2004, 23:48
hmm i forget what i had first said that got me silenced... anyways, we all know that [violet] is just a cron job attempting to take over the world

I'm sure [violet] loves you too.
UNIverseVERSE
25-09-2004, 16:59
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Texan Hotrodders
25-09-2004, 18:59
[This post shows signs of tampering by the NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester.]

[This post shows signs of tampering by the NationStates Universally-Proclaimed Sex God.]
HC Eredivisie
27-09-2004, 14:38
It feels good to play with the code once.
Lapse
02-10-2004, 12:40
hmm i forget what i had first said that got me silenced... anyways, we all know that [violet] is just a cron job attempting to take over the world
yep :)
Rave Shentavo
02-10-2004, 15:03
If Max is behind any nation, I don't think that he would want others knowing it, with exception of the moderators. That would mean a LOT of telegrams. :-D
Kwaswhakistan
03-10-2004, 07:09
i know who max's nation is, i also know the truth about [violet].... im just being paid a lot of money to keep it quiet, so i cant tell you all... sorry
Shiaze
03-10-2004, 17:21
Here's my reason why Max Barry can't be [Violet]. Because [Violet] scares me and Max Barry doesn't.
Kwaswhakistan
04-10-2004, 03:25
and how can max barry not scare you?

http://maxbarry.com/images/max/small152.jpg
Vastiva
04-10-2004, 05:13
Found "Jennifer Government" and began to read it. Got halfway through.

Then the book disappeared.
Ransacked my house, could not find it anywhere.

Turned out my wife "stole" it and would not return it until she had finished it.

Ok, Max, when are you coming out with another in that world?
I am Max Barry
07-10-2004, 14:54
Do I scare you?
Relaxed
07-10-2004, 15:39
Do I scare you?

Prepare to be deleted.
HC Eredivisie
07-10-2004, 15:43
for what?
Relaxed
07-10-2004, 17:24
for what?

For imposing as our great guru :p
Pope Hope
07-10-2004, 18:18
Found "Jennifer Government" and began to read it. Got halfway through.

Then the book disappeared.
Ransacked my house, could not find it anywhere.

Turned out my wife "stole" it and would not return it until she had finished it.

That's funny. Sounds like something I would do. If I was married. Which I'm not. :p

Ok, Max, when are you coming out with another in that world?

On Company...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357839

-or-

I haven't heard anything about a JG2, but if there was to be a sequel, it would be talked about here...

http://www.maxbarry.com

Do I scare you?

Impersonation of TEH MAX is not allowed. :mp5: Hehe.
The Dominionate
10-10-2004, 19:38
http://maxbarry.com/images/max/small152.jpg

He is scary. He uses Windows XP. :D
I am Max Barry
22-10-2004, 21:48
Who doesn't?
Unfree People
22-10-2004, 22:07
He is scary. He uses Windows XP. :DActually, he doesn't.

the problem is I’m sitting in front of a standard Windows desktop. I can protest that I dual-boot Linux all I like; it makes no difference. In the eyes of geeks around the world, I am forever shamed.http://www.maxbarry.com/2004/03/09/news.html#microsoft

Who doesn't?I don't. And you're not Max. :p
HC Eredivisie
23-10-2004, 14:09
Who are you to say Max isn't Max?
Grenval
31-10-2004, 06:06
Let's take a vote. Is [violet] Max Barry or not?
Kwaswhakistan
31-10-2004, 08:01
My vote is: 42
United White Front
31-10-2004, 17:55
Who are you to say Max isn't Max?
he's a mod
he can see that persons ip
and i'm sure max would not tell every on what his nation was
Unfree People
31-10-2004, 18:27
No no... she is a mod. :p
HC Eredivisie
31-10-2004, 19:07
he's a mod
he can see that persons ip
and i'm sure max would not tell every on what his nation was
i know, and that was my puppet ;)

question: who of the mods can say that he/she deleted Max? :D
United White Front
31-10-2004, 20:15
No no... she is a mod. :p
sorry unfree i have truble rembering things like that some times
Jjuulliiaann
31-10-2004, 20:50
My vote is: 42
Was that a Douglas Adams reference?
HC Eredivisie
30-11-2004, 22:19
i know, and that was my puppet ;)

question: who of the mods can say that he/she deleted Max? :D
no mod can? :p
Koolademan
03-12-2004, 03:19
yes, who was it?
Right thinking whites
03-12-2004, 03:32
i doubt the mods would deat max they would just report him to himself
and he would deat him self
Koolademan
03-12-2004, 03:34
i doubt the mods would deat max they would just report him to himself
and he would deat him self

Yes, but if they did couldn't he just start again? :confused:
Kwaswhakistan
03-12-2004, 03:35
Max Barry is a beagle dog (see picture proof below), and [violet] is a supercomputer.

http://www.dewknight.com/images/other/max_beagle.jpg


Now if you look at all of the images of max on his site, you will notice they look slightly photoshopped, that is because they had to edit his head on from all of the pictures of him as a beagle, onto human bodies. It makes sense.
Xrypti
12-12-2004, 03:29
And it goes on, and on, and on...
Right thinking whites
12-12-2004, 03:36
Yes, but if they did couldn't he just start again? :confused:
well it is his site he can do what ecer his evil little beagle dog mind wants
also rember snoopy was a beagle
Shiaze
12-12-2004, 03:36
Violet is Hack Nike's girlfriend.

Not so sure about [violet]...
yeah and that makes me wonder about your name Glorious Hack .
Koolademan
14-12-2004, 02:14
hmmmm......interesting
Peng-Pau
14-12-2004, 02:37
:o

HACK AND MAX BARRY ARE IN TEH GHEY RELATIONSHIP! :P

This post can be interpreted as "Wow, this thread still exists?!"
Shiaze
17-12-2004, 02:44
:o

HACK AND MAX BARRY ARE IN TEH GHEY RELATIONSHIP! :P

This post can be interpreted as "Wow, this thread still exists?!"

Dude/Dudette IT'S A STICKY! IT WILL NEVER GO AWAY! unless the mods take it off.
Kwaswhakistan
17-12-2004, 03:02
This thread exists for the sole purpose of keeping people from finding out that I am Max Barry.

This post exists because as soon as you read it, you were convinced even more that I am not Max Barry. It serves it's purpose.
Grenval
17-12-2004, 06:46
This thread exists for the sole purpose of keeping people from finding out that I am Max Barry.

This post exists because as soon as you read it, you were convinced even more that I am not Max Barry. It serves it's purpose.

Or perhaps when you tell us the post has served its purpose we believe all the more only to realize that you would never tell us what you are really thinking and that whatever we assume you would expect so we must expect that you expect us to expect what we are trying to expect, thus leaving myself with a small headache.

Ponders...
Kwaswhakistan
17-12-2004, 06:50
thus leaving myself with a small headache.

which furthers my plot to sell my off-brand tylenol..... barrylenol! buy some! perfect for small headaches caused from contemplation!
Grenval
17-12-2004, 06:51
which furthers my plot to sell my off-brand tylenol..... barrylenol! buy some! perfext for small headaches caused from contemplation!

Hands over the money. Anything for relief!
UNIverseVERSE
18-12-2004, 16:39
This thread exists for the sole purpose of keeping people from finding out that I am Max Barry.

This post exists because as soon as you read it, you were convinced even more that I am not Max Barry. It serves it's purpose.

*bows before Max Barry*

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*grovels*
Average Veteran
15-01-2005, 00:02
irc.esper.net #nationstates

joins: Scolopendra
<Nathicana> Hullo, Max! Er ... I mean Scolo ...
<Scolopendra> Goddammit, Nathi.
<Nathicana> I sowwy ...
<Scolopendra> You may as well tell 'em [violet] is Oz.
<Nathicana> I think I slipped and let that one out the other night, yes ...
<Scolopendra> That's it. Game's over.
* Nathicana kicks a pebble and looks all sheepish.
<Nathicana> Should I tell them that Sal is actually Goober or should we keep that one under wraps?
<Scolopendra> Buy and read my books! While drinking!
* Nathicana feels really, really bad for breaking OPSEC and all.
Kroblexskij
15-01-2005, 00:09
where did this come from
Nanakaland
15-01-2005, 00:32
IRC on irc.esper.net. #NationStates the chatroom. Written right there.
FutureEngland
16-01-2005, 21:43
thats either true or it was those two joking to lead us on a wild goose chase in my opinion they let it out to easily
Goobergunchia
16-01-2005, 21:57
<Nathicana> Should I tell them that Sal is actually Goober or should we keep that one under wraps?

I've been discovered! ;)

hmm, seems I was eating dinner when this happened, given it's in my logs and all....
Euroslavia
18-01-2005, 23:31
I've been discovered! ;)

hmm, seems I was eating dinner when this happened, given it's in my logs and all....


It seems my calculations were correct!

Now...on to who Frisbeeteria really is....

*goes deep into Nationstates and stumbles upon the secret*

I knew it! Frisbeeteria is.....oh god, it's just too much. I'm not telling any of you. ;)
HC Eredivisie
19-01-2005, 15:06
OMGFIM :eek:

Oh My God, Frisbeeteria Is Me
Kanabia
23-01-2005, 06:23
*joins in :eek:ing*
DemonLordEnigma
23-01-2005, 08:01
You're all wrong.

The admins and mods are all just alts of each other.
Neo-Anarchists
23-01-2005, 08:15
You're all wrong.

The admins and mods are all just alts of each other.
They're all secretly in league with the Bavarian Illuminati, I bet.
It's all part of a mind-control experiment based on stolen Grey technology from the crash at the WTC that was covered up as a "terrorist attack."

There's proof somewhere, but I think my cat ate it.
:D
DemonLordEnigma
23-01-2005, 08:19
You have to squint at the stars just right while spinning in circles to see it.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 08:00
Wait, why the heck is this thread in Technical anyway?
Probably to cover up the conspiracy more...

*dons tinfoil cap and wanders off*
The Doors Corporation
25-01-2005, 08:19
what is [violet] and it wasn't the greys man, they're our friends trying to open our minds up to the cosmic knowledge that mankind is the descendants of the ancients. its the AGHARIANS, they are jealous that we humans are pure descendants and not genetic mutants. The grey ship was shot down while in a mind war against the agharian's most powerful demon, unfortunately the greys hit both WTC..its to hard to explain, but it was just one grey ship. Anyhow, at the pentagon, the grey there had been found out, and agharians were going after him, his only choice was to explode. anyways I meet greys every friday night in the back of Chili's. join the resitance!

P.S. Its late at night and I sometimes get scared. I just scared myself with my own story...
Krytenia
25-01-2005, 22:01
OK, OK, I admit it. I am Krytenia.
Neo-Anarchists
25-01-2005, 23:04
OK, OK, I admit it. I am Krytenia.
:eek:
And for a while there, I thought I was!
What a shocking revelation!
Krytenia
30-01-2005, 06:30
:eek:
And for a while there, I thought I was!
What a shocking revelation!

OK, so I was bored....

Meh.
Dimmimar
05-02-2005, 19:28
Violet=toilet
Momanguise
05-02-2005, 19:52
No, you're all wrong.

I am Max Barry.

Case closed.
Momanguise
07-02-2005, 11:55
I have just read all of this thread. All 79 pages, and yet I feel further away from the truth than ever before....

Now if you don't mind, I need to lie down. My brain has melted.
Haken Rider
07-02-2005, 12:06
I have just read all of this thread. All 79 pages, and yet I feel further away from the truth than ever before....

Now if you don't mind, I need to lie down. My brain has melted.
Finally a summary!
Saves me some time.
Ballotonia
07-02-2005, 16:05
I have just read all of this thread. All 79 pages, and yet I feel further away from the truth than ever before....

Now if you don't mind, I need to lie down. My brain has melted.

I believe enlightenment will come when reading this thread for a second time. Not that I've done so myself, as I'm allergic to my brain melting.

*shows doctor's note*

Ballotonia
Momanguise
07-02-2005, 18:23
Read it...again?

*shudders*

I think Max Barry is probably someone that we would all believe, but not really suspect. Someone that that is a brilliant writer, but someone who everyone just takes for granted. If he did tell us we would all probably say "Oh yeah," before promptly spamming him to hell.

Oh yes, my advice is don't read the whole thread. 99% of it is junk. If I ever get another free four hours or so I'll trawl through it getting the good bits for you all.
HC Eredivisie
07-02-2005, 18:34
My plan:

Max is an Aussi right? So we'd have to steal the complete NS memberlist, with IP adresses, and than we must compare it with the IP adresses given out by Australian companies. This gives us the list of all Aussies in the game. Next we check who of the reguraly reads and posts at the fora's. This gives us a shorter list of potential Maxxes. The most important step is: we send some-one to Max his house to watch him and when he (Max) posts our spy must give us a signal so we can see who posted. Voila, then we know who Max is. :p Or the spy could just tell us the name of the nation Max logs in to, but that's no fun.

I am Max Barry
Findecano Calaelen
08-02-2005, 14:48
Okay we all know that Max is an Aussie, which of course is in the southern hemisphere.

in the following quote [violet] admits to being in the Northen Hemisphere

']Ah, to think it was October last time we ran the Game Mod Olympics. It was warmer then, much warmer, unless you live in the Southern Hemisphere, in which case it was colder. Or if you live near the equator, it'd be pretty much the same. But that's not important. The important thing is that it's the first Game Mod Olympics of 2005!


the entire post is here

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8113886&postcount=1
Goobergunchia
09-02-2005, 06:30
First of all, the mods/admin have admitted that [violet]'s an Australian.
Second, my IP records confirm that [violet] is an Australian. (Don't ask how I have [violet]'s IP.)
Third, [violet] and Max have the same ISP. Their IPs didn't match, but Max's IP changed from the first to the second MaxChats, so that is inconclusive.
Ballotonia
09-02-2005, 11:02
First of all, the mods/admin have admitted that [violet]'s an Australian.
Second, my IP records confirm that [violet] is an Australian. (Don't ask how I have [violet]'s IP.)
Third, [violet] and Max have the same ISP. Their IPs didn't match, but Max's IP changed from the first to the second MaxChats, so that is inconclusive.

Brilliant! This means that there's no evidence Max isn't [violet], but also no solid evidence that Max is. In other words, thanks to your efforts we have managed to cut all possibilities down to just these two:
1- [violet] is Max Barry
2- [violet] is not Max Barry

It's a major stride forward in our efforts in this thread! :D :D :D

Ballotonia
Findecano Calaelen
09-02-2005, 12:07
sure Max, Max\[violet] or [violet] may be on holidays but its still the best evidence ive seen so far.
Neo-Anarchists
09-02-2005, 21:38
Why is this in Technical anyway?

:eek:

THEY'RE TRYING TO HIDE THE EVIDENCE!!!
JCJC
18-02-2005, 02:33
Why is this in Technical anyway?

:eek:

THEY'RE TRYING TO HIDE THE EVIDENCE!!!

...it's a conspiracy. Now that you know...run for your life! They're going to be after you! :mp5:

*runs out the door*
Kwaswhakistan
21-02-2005, 08:55
I have just read all of this thread. All 79 pages, and yet I feel further away from the truth than ever before....

Now if you don't mind, I need to lie down. My brain has melted.

Yes, I first read the whole thread a couple of months back.



And as we all know, as I pointed out, I am Max Barry. But I am not because you all wish to believe I am not, because how could I possibly be Max Barry. [violet] is also Max Barry, but [violet] is also a supercomputer, and Max Barry a small evil little beagle dog intent on taking over the world, but is controlled by the [violet] supercomputer, which is the real one that is going to take over the world.

I miss all the mathematical equations we had for this sort of stuff that was all in forum 7.
UNIverseVERSE
24-02-2005, 23:05
I had an awesome one a bit ago, and I'll try to dig it up and post it on here. It told us which nation the Tetragammatron(hope I got that right) Lord of our World Max Barry was. :)
Alomogordo
07-03-2005, 07:17
First of all, the mods/admin have admitted that [violet]'s an Australian.
Second, my IP records confirm that [violet] is an Australian. (Don't ask how I have [violet]'s IP.)
Third, [violet] and Max have the same ISP. Their IPs didn't match, but Max's IP changed from the first to the second MaxChats, so that is inconclusive.
Given this information, plus what we already know, I think it's fair to assume that indeed Max is [violet].
Kwaswhakistan
07-03-2005, 07:29
oh how little you all know. It amuses me.


bwaaaaahahaha
Neo-Anarchists
07-03-2005, 08:48
I had an awesome one a bit ago, and I'll try to dig it up and post it on here. It told us which nation the Tetragammatron(hope I got that right) Lord of our World Max Barry was. :)
:eek:
I should dig up some Qabalistic texts for this kind of stuff!
Taiwanese Islands
07-03-2005, 11:35
Wow...... I've still got another 20 pages to go......

This thread hasn't really been active for the the past year or so, apparently...... The mods have succeeded in sapping our wills for seeking the truth out!!!

I'm starting an in-depth systematic analysis of [violet]. When its finished (scheduled to be around Easter) it should give us enough insight into just what is [violet]. After similar studies of all prominent NS figures are made, we shall be able to expose this conspiracy and reveal the one and only truth to the world!

To do so, hopefully old members may provide information long since lost in the abyss of time for our eternal task...... For example, the pic [violet] posted would be a good place to start. I mean, someone must have saved it onto their harddrive.......

BTW: recent information suggests that Violet does not live in Austalia.......
Neo-Anarchists
07-03-2005, 11:41
For example, the pic [violet] posted would be a good place to start. I mean, someone must have saved it onto their harddrive.......
http://img175.exs.cx/img175/8276/violetmod9fg.jpg
[violet]

[violet]'s pic is right there in the pic thread in General.
Kwaswhakistan
07-03-2005, 12:57
yes. [violet] is a wookiee angel.
Neo-Anarchists
07-03-2005, 22:46
yes. [violet] is a wookiee angel.
With purple mittens. Never forget the purple mittens!!!
Kwaswhakistan
07-03-2005, 23:33
i.... i can't believe i forgot the purple mittens... i deserve to be killed now
Euroslavia
08-03-2005, 00:23
It seems my calculations were correct!

Now...on to who Frisbeeteria really is....

*goes deep into Nationstates and stumbles upon the secret*

I knew it! Frisbeeteria is.....oh god, it's just too much. I'm not telling any of you. ;)

With Frisbeeteria's becoming a moderator, my point was proven, yet again! Now, who's next? :p

Tuesday Heights? Crazy Girl? Sephrioth?!?!? ;)
Neo-Anarchists
08-03-2005, 00:40
Now, who's next?
Treznor, because he explicitly states he doesn't want to be a mod. One morning Trez will wake up, amble over to the computer, and with shock and horror realize he's been modded!
Oh teh noes! Mod ambush!
:p
Neo-Anarchists
08-03-2005, 01:24
I have look long and hard on the universe , and my scrying has shown me who Max truly is!

Here, to start:

By Pythagorean method, Max's First name number is 7, middle name number is 0, and last name number is 5. His basic number is 3. 3 means faith, religion, and destiny. Max's full number is also 3. His name value is 300, meaning philosophy,knowledge, and protection.

By tarot method, Max's name number is 2. 2 is The Priestess:
Symbol of the divine Sophia, creative imagination (allied to the creative will), Isis or Maya. Symbolizes the Gnosis, the creative power, attraction and repulsion, the law of the sexes, chemical affinity, imagination.

I am beginning to notice some fascinating parallels. Are you?

By Qabalistic method of tarot keys:
Max's first name number is 2, The Priestess again. His last name number is 7, The Chariot of Osiris:
The knowledge of the seven principles, magnetic power, intellection, sensation, fulfillment of ambitions.

His basic number is 9 The Hermit, or Veiled Lamp:
Denotes incarnation, prudence, circumspection, classification, selection, science, discovery, carefulness.

Much of this revolves about the female, the religous, and carefulness. Along with the "fulfillment of ambitions", I declare that Max roleplays a very religious female on the forums. "The fulfillment of ambitions" is Max being happy nobody can figure out that it's him!

Here is his 100 Year's Progression:

1973 + 20 = 1993 = 22;
Folly
Necessity, privation, egotism, credulity, error, vanity, blindness, ruin, insanity.
1993 + 22 = 2015 = 8;
Justice
The sword and balance. Denotes retribution, judgment, reason, moderation, temperance, impartiality.
2015 + 8 = 2023 = 7;
The Chariot of Osiris
The knowledge of the seven principles, magnetic power, intellection, sensation, fulfillment of ambitions.
2023 + 7 = 2030 = 5;
The Hierophant or Master
Denotes the universal law, religion, discipline, precept and teaching. Liberty, regulation.
2030 + 5 = 2035 = 10;
The Sphinx or Wheel of Fortune
Cause and effect, the moral law, periodicity, revolution, circulation.
2035 + 10 = 2045 = 11;
The Muzzled Lion
Denotes power, force, determination, conquest, direction of force, mastery, vitality.
2045 + 11 = 2056 = 13;
Death the Reaper
Change, reaction, disappointment, denial, catalepsy, collapse, ruin and death.
2056 + 13 = 2069 = 17;
The Star
Faith, assurance, hope, illumination, intuition, birth, success, expectations.
2069 + 17 = 2086 = 16;
The Stricken Tower
Sudden calamity, pride of intellect, ostentation, cataclysms, earthquakes, storms, overthrow, accidents.

This tells us little of use in identifying Max, but it does tell us that Max will live an oddly long life. he will fall sick in 2056, and succumb to his illness in 2069. This in some way heralds geat sadness and lamentations ending in a calamity in 2086. That doesn't help us, though. I can make out nothing usefl in it.

Here is something interesting with the Qabalah of Cycles:

2005 + 32 = 12
The Sacrific:Spiritual debasement, reversal, overthrow, inversion, madness, depolarization, loss, undoing.

2006 + 33 = 14
The Two Urns:The vital forces, friendship, social obligations, reciprocal affection, chemistry.

2007 + 34 = 7
The Chariot of Osiris:The knowledge of the seven principles, magnetic power, intellection, sensation, fulfillment of ambitions.

2008 + 35 = 9
The Hermit or Veiled Lamp:Denotes incarnation, prudence, circumspection, classification, selection, science, discovery, carefulness.

We now know that we will find out who Max is within the year. There will be a period of peace, satisfaction, and happiness for two years. Then Max's nation will mysteriously disappear, and the cycle will begin anew.

There are some other very interesting things that the Qabalah of Cycles has foretold, but they are at the moment irrelevant.

Continuing:
Max's Qabalah chart has shown me little. it does, however, have interesting parallels with the number 3 many times. Three can signify a great many things, but one persisting theme is that of a Holy Trinity. Creation, preservation, and resolution are another theme in 3. Another is The Family. Combining this also with the trinity of Past, Present, and Future, here is what I conclude:

Max is [violet], but also someone else. Max is The Creator, [violet] is The Protector, and the Face of Max that we see and yet never notice, is Death, finalizing the cycle. When Max is revealed for the second time, a great tragedy will befall NS, and there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth.

I propose that as we cannot halt the great Hand of Chronos's steady advance of time, we must search posthaste for Max's other identity. Remember, religious females, and from what I understand it seems to me as though this would be a female well-versed in an occult religion rather than a mainstream one.
The true face of Max must be revealed, the Qabalah foretells it!
Ramissle
12-03-2005, 03:24
The answer was in the link on the news page. Max Barry is Hatred, Plumbers Union, and something else I can't remember because the site is down. If hes [violet] too, great. I just thought I'd burst Neo's theory.
Neo-Anarchists
12-03-2005, 03:57
The answer was in the link on the news page.
The what now?
:confused:
I just thought I'd burst Neo's theory.
Aww.
:(
Kwaswhakistan
12-03-2005, 08:32
Anybody up for visiting Kensington, Victoria, Australia and knocking on every door to see which one belongs to Max?


http://whois.sc/nationstates.net
Euroslavia
12-03-2005, 16:49
Anybody up for visiting Kensington, Victoria, Australia and knocking on every door to see which one belongs to Max?


http://whois.sc/nationstates.net

Let's split it up, and terrorize Australia.
Go! Go! Go!
Peloneous
13-03-2005, 00:34
Even though it provides his P.O. box number, we need to search every home in Kensington, Victoria, Australia?

I'd rather let Max Barry alone and not spend money traveling Australia, mates. :-p
Kwaswhakistan
13-03-2005, 02:08
We could always camp out at the post office until he checks his mail!


That's an idea..... if I ever go to australia.....
Ramissle
13-03-2005, 03:30
In an e-mail, Barry explains his rationale behind some of the quirkier aspects of the game: “The novel and the game both came out of my interest in weird political systems – the idea that you can change a few laws or morals and suddenly you have a very different society. In Jennifer Government it’s ultra-libertarianism. In NationStates it’s whatever the hell you want.” He ain’t kidding. Barry’s game encourages idiosyncratic behaviour from the get-go; its league of nations currently includes the Dominion of Complete Bastards (“We Don’t Want the World, We Just Want Your Half”), the Hateful Hating Haters of Hatred (“We Hate You! Go Away!”) and the Ancient Empire of Plumbers Union (“We will definitely be there by nine on Monday”). Depending upon your leadership, your country may be given a designation of, among others, Corporate Police State, Civil Rights Lovefest, Psychotic Dictatorship or Inoffensive Centrist Democracy. My own nation, Gernistan, is currently a Scandinavian Liberal Paradise.
Go me. I cracked the code.....
:rolleyes:
Good job though Neo, I wouldn't of had the paitience to type that up.

EDIT:
Heres the full story: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/statesofmind.html
Neo-Anarchists
13-03-2005, 03:55
Heres the full story: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/statesofmind.html
Umm, I don't see anywhere where it states that those nations belong to Max...
:confused:
Bonesacke
13-03-2005, 15:17
Umm, I don't see anywhere where it states that those nations belong to Max...
:confused:
Crap! It says "its league of nations", not "his league of nations".
Sorry guys, looks like I read that wrong. I should stop skimming things.
:(
Ramissle
13-03-2005, 15:22
Crap! It says "its league of nations", not "his league of nations".
Sorry guys, looks like I read that wrong. I should stop skimming things.
:(
It also looks like I should start signing on to the right account before I post....
The Macabees
20-03-2005, 04:54
Ok guys, sorry to break it you like this...but I'm Max Barry...yes, I must confess, I made these forums from scratch *rubs fingernails on shirt*...yes, indeed...yep..me Max Berry... but, then again... am a puppet? That is your new quest children of Nation States! Spread the confusion! muahahah! muahahaha!


And by the way, I'm not really Max Berry... or am I? That is for you to find out. I wish I could write that well... or could I? Dun, dun, dun... I'm confusing myself. But would that mean that I am that you are that I am?

Sorry, I'm philosophizing again.
Czardas
06-04-2005, 23:25
OK, for the longest time I wasn't sure and I'm still not totally certain but I think I may have some evidence pointing to [violet] being max barry. This might have been already discussed before; I don't know; I went through a lot of threads dealing with this and didn't find anything. OK, here goes ....

I think the biggest hint comes from the FAQ. We can say with absolute confidence that max wrote this FAQ byt his statement:

(I've capsed important words.) Thus it is also clear that he has some programming experience if he put this game together. Some might object saying that learning programming takes a long time to learn. Wrong; I learned java in a week and pearl in three days, also ... (I could go on and on). Another objection might be that he could have someone else write it. However, the statement suggests otherwise since Max wouldn't be as occupied creating this game if he weren't active in development i.e. he was writing something. I don't think I heard too many people object to max's programming abilities.

[violet] definitly programs as he continues to make updates to the site (by the way ::applauds [violet] for adding issues submission::) and fix problems. (I could post some quotes here if someone wants to but I don't think that will be neccessary.)

Having established that Max Barry wrote the FAQ, we know that the following statement came from him:

If he runs this website, then he must have absolute power to do so i.e. he must be the or an administrator. The only administrator I've seen so far was [violet] (Are there otherones? I didn't see them, but I don't think that there are) Someone might object, stating that he might have given power over to a friend/someone to run this website i.e. [violet]. While this seems valid at first, a little quote from Max Barry's biography page must give us some thought:

If he were not the administrator, why would NationStates threaten to consume his life? Would he only satisfy himself by playing as a single nation/s? He might have some for the heck of it but just think about it for a minute. He'd definitly want some power to control stuff around here and we know that the mods aren't max barry since they all came later.

Conclusion: [violet] = Max Barry. This is clearly evident; even though he tries to hide it. And as several posters already said, it's fun watching people guess. Nonetheless, he didn't cover his tracks well enough.

I think I'll add my two cents to this thread (practically every other nation on Nationstates seems to be doing the same) and show how, with the addition of this evidence, we can prove the connection of [violet] to Max Barry.

My deductive reasoning:

- Max Barry, based on his own evidence, created the website <www.nationstates.net>.

- I found a thread started by [violet] and clicked on the ID, then went to [violet]'s homepage (normally his/her nation).

- [violet]'s homepage took me to <www.nationstates.net>.

- Conclusion: [violet] = Max Barry.

The only possible objection is if <www.nationstates.net> was not created by Max Barry, but by a professional whom Max enlisted to help him create the online game he wished to create. This in itself is highly unlikely, and at any rate Max would have probably picked up some knowledge of computer code in order to become the administrator (see the News page's posts by "Max Barry"). It stands to reason therefore that Max would have an ID to post on the forums. Since [violet] is the NationStates administrator, here is yet another proof that [violet] = Max Barry.
Kwaswhakistan
08-04-2005, 07:11
clicking on [violet]'s "homepage", or nation, brings you to the nation of [violet], which "doesn't exist", so it just goes to your nation. Your theory is too flawed and simple. 12+blue=max, therefore, [violet] = 17 oranges and a parakeet
Sexy Mancandy
08-04-2005, 21:30
Max Barry is the Smoking Man. There is no identity of violet, otherthan Max Barry. The triumvirate of mystery will continue to confound people who don't look for the unobvious obvious.
Honesty X
15-04-2005, 03:55
You can't get much more of a mod answer than from [violet] herself.

If you were ejected for rulebreaking (and you were, and you now know why), your nation(s) will not be revived.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Forum Moderator

This is posted here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8681801#post8681801).


Notice the emphasis on HERSELF. This could be a coverup for a mod conspiracy or this could have been a really bad mistake made by Frisbeeteria. Cause I'm pretty sure that Max Barry is not a "her".
Euroslavia
15-04-2005, 04:32
Perhaps Max Barry, [violet], and SalusaSecondus are the 'three-in-one'?

Max Barry= The Father
SalusaSecondus= The Son
[violet]= The Holy Spirit

Perhaps these are three separate 'faces' of The Father, Max Barry.

The moderators are the tribes of Israel:
Reploid Productions
Scolopendra
Sirocco
Melkor Unchained
Cogitation
The Most Glorious Hack
Karmabaijan
GMC Military Arms
Myrth
Menelmacar
TJHairball
Unfree People
Katganistan
Tsaraine
Frisbeeteria

Sure, there are 15, but is it perhaps, that there were 3 'lost' tribes that we never heard about? It really makes you think...
Honesty X
15-04-2005, 04:36
Great theory, but it might stir up some controversy because of the whole comparing NS to the bible.
Zeno of Cyprus
15-04-2005, 04:39
Wait your telling me it's not?
Honesty X
15-04-2005, 04:42
No one exactly knows...but mods of course.
The Macabees
15-04-2005, 04:50
No one exactly knows...but mods of course.


Perhaps not even the mods.
Frisbeeteria
15-04-2005, 05:22
Notice the emphasis on HERSELF. This could be a coverup for a mod conspiracy or this could have been a really bad mistake made by Frisbeeteria.
I won't say that this is definitive, but I received this pic from a source that claims to have known a paparazzi in Australia who purportedly caught this shot of [violet] through the window of a coffee shop one dark and stormy night. Though I had to tweak the color balance to get any detail, it's still pretty obvious that [violet] is female ... or a very girly man.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/manga-girl.jpg . . . . . . http://www.maxbarry.com/images/max/small152.jpg

The other pic is of course Max, or so it says on his website. Though I must admit the two of them have never been photographed together ... but neither have Max and me ... or [violet] and me ... or Katganistan and [violet] ... or Sinuhue and me ... ummm, now that I think about it, I've never been photographed. Oh well, so much for that theory.
The Macabees
15-04-2005, 05:29
I know who all of you are... but I'm not going to tell you that I know who you are..or at least, I'm not going to specify...because to specify would be to give you grounds for deletion...and to give you grounds for deletion would be against Code #249384985 of the Anti-NS Moderator Cult.
Czardas
20-04-2005, 03:46
Before I begin, let me tell you first off that I'M NOT MAX BARRY. Settled? Good. Well, on to the rest...

First of all, why are we speculating? What will it gain us if we find out that Max Barry really is [violet] or any other nation that exists on NationStates?

Euroslavia, your theory is kind of preposterous, because we have Salusa's own evidence that he's not Max Barry, see his website. (Find a post by SalusaSecondus and go to his homepage.) And even so, we could view it better as the Hindu triumvirate:

Max Barry = The Creator
[violet] = The Presever
SalusaSecondus = The Destroyer

At last, we're making some progress!

Next, if you know something, don't blackmail. The Site Admins like [violet] can delete you if you say, "I'll tell everyone who you are if you don't give me a population of 5 billion, a 44% tax rate, and a 'Very Strong' economy!" Reveal it on this thread if you choose to.

Finally, the mods don't know who Max Barry is. The players don't either. In fact they don't know if Max is one of them—not a moderator or anything, just a normal player who retired from administrating.

I wouldn't be surprised if everyone who's posted on this thread saying, "I am Max Barry" was right. There's no reason why Max shouldn't have 10, 20, 100, even a thousand nations.

Or--in a very Kafka-esque way--every nation outside of my own could actually have been created by Max. He could be everywhere and omnipotent. Everyone knows the secret—except me. The enormity! *breaks down*
SalusaSecondus
20-04-2005, 04:14
Max Barry = The Creator
[violet] = The Presever
SalusaSecondus = The Destroyer
Thanks. I'm flattered!
Ardchoille
20-04-2005, 06:25
Ah, an almost-equal-opportunity religion! Max as the male principle, [violet] as the female principle, and Salusa as the -- miscellaneous principle? Hmm, maybe that needs a bit more work ... Mask=Many Faces=Trickster God=the Great Unknown?

Anyway, here's a challenge for those experts who interpret sacred scripts line by line: the wages book of the Strangers' Bar, which records the employment of a person named Square Bracket Lower Case Bold Face 10-point violet Close Square Bracket.

Let me now state definitively that the above employee, popularly known as Violet Bracket, is not [violet].

There, that should be enough for at least 500 theses proving she is.
Czardas
20-04-2005, 16:40
Thanks. I'm flattered!All it means is that you can delete nations.
Neo-Anarchists
20-04-2005, 16:55
And even so, we could view it better as the Hindu triumvirate:

Max Barry = The Creator
[violet] = The Presever
SalusaSecondus = The Destroyer
Hey...
With my Qabalistic tomfoolery, I also had Max down as the creator, and [violet] as the preserver. But for Death, I had down the Face of Max which we do not know...

Perhaps our combined evidence tell us that it is Salusa!
:eek:

...wait...
Dammit, we already established that it wasn't Salusa. It appears the communication pathways to the mystic beings are on the fritz today. Ah well.
Neo-Anarchists
20-04-2005, 16:59
and Salusa as the -- miscellaneous principle? Hmm, maybe that needs a bit more work ... Mask=Many Faces=Trickster God=the Great Unknown
Ooh, the Trickster archetype.
*puts on spectacles, gets out "The Portable Jung"*

Anyone have any dreams about Max, Salusa, and [violet]?
Ballotonia
21-04-2005, 11:52
All it means is that you can delete nations.

Surely it is more than that. All the Game Mods can delete nations, and revive them again later. Salusa, however, can erase them entirely so it will be as if they never existed in the first place!

Ballotonia
The Most Glorious Hack
21-04-2005, 12:03
Salusa, however, can erase them entirely so it will be as if they never existed in the first place!

Pfft. He's just some weird little kid with a big nose.
NovaCarpeDiem
21-04-2005, 20:56
Do you really want to know who Max Barry is?

I'm not going to tell you what I know. But he said that one of the theories on this thread is correct. I'll let you try to guess which one (I'm leaning against both Czardas's and Euroslavia's theories though).
Xerlox
22-04-2005, 01:56
I can't believe you guys have been carrying on with these rumors for years.. wow.

Howdy everyone, it's trousrs.
Enn
22-04-2005, 02:26
Anyway, here's a challenge for those experts who interpret sacred scripts line by line: the wages book of the Strangers' Bar, which records the employment of a person named Square Bracket Lower Case Bold Face 10-point violet Close Square Bracket.

Let me now state definitively that the above employee, popularly known as Violet Bracket, is not [violet].
The problem being that Lord Byron seems to have fallen in love with Violet Bracket. What are we to tell him if it turns out that Violet Bracket=[violet]=Max Barry?
NovaCarpeDiem
22-04-2005, 19:55
I don't see why you keep arguing about it. It was obvious from the beginning to one with a practiced eye such as me. Max Barry's NS ID is --- CENSORED BY NATIONSTATES MODERATORS ---

Censored by NationStates Moderators. Reason: quiet you dolt!
Goobergunchia
24-04-2005, 18:32
---Post deleted by the NationStates Moderators---
HC Eredivisie
24-04-2005, 19:52
---Post deleted by the NationStates Moderators--- :eek:

NS Moderators edit: quote deleted.
Allthegoodnamesareused
27-04-2005, 01:31
I Am Max Barry
Kwaswhakistan
27-04-2005, 02:34
Surely the recent happenings indicate that the end is here! The end happened this morning. We all warned you! but nooo, you sat there and called us crazy. And even now as it is happening you will sit there and call us crazy. Just you wait!
Euroslavia
27-04-2005, 03:47
Surely the recent happenings indicate that the end is here! The end happened this morning. We all warned you! but nooo, you sat there and called us crazy. And even now as it is happening you will sit there and call us crazy. Just you wait!

*Four men wearing all white suddenly walk into the room, grab Kwas, and drag him to the mental institute where he belongs.....for knowing too much* ;)
Kwaswhakistan
27-04-2005, 05:25
ohhh nothing happened at all. go about your daily business. there was no crash. look at my nice pen while I put these sunglasses on. isn't it a nice pen

*flash*



hahaha I knew it all along! ha!
Ballotonia
27-04-2005, 13:07
In: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8761488&postcount=3
Myrth states:Actually, it was [violet] who dealt with this one.

In the News page, Max Barry writes:Fortunately, we had a complete backup from earlier in the day, so we took down the game and began restoring.

So, if that 'we' is the Royal use of 'we', Max == [violet]. If not, Myrth seemes to be suggesting that [violet] is a group and Max would then be part of that group.

Ballotonia
Myrth
27-04-2005, 13:15
'We' are the mods, admins and Maxes. We are as one ;)
Frisbeeteria
27-04-2005, 13:32
'We' are the mods, admins and Maxes. We are as one ;)
Yeah. What ^^ we said.
Fenure
08-05-2005, 11:41
How did this thread reach 84 pages?
HC Eredivisie
08-05-2005, 16:30
How did this thread reach 84 pages?A bit of spamming and some conspriracies.
Kwaswhakistan
09-05-2005, 03:52
84!!!!!!!!!!!!! teh number of teh [violet]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Blaatschapen
09-05-2005, 11:36
And twice the answer to the question of the meaning of life, the universe and everything :)