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[violet]
24-12-2003, 06:15
Either way, that isn't Max behind the mask.

Actually, it could be. Considering lighting conditions, makeup, and color vs. B&W, it could well be that what your noticing is just a trick of the light. The long nose isn't helping much either.
Someone needs to Photoshop the SalusaSecondus mask onto that Max Barry pic. :)
24-12-2003, 06:28
Someone needs to Photoshop the SalusaSecondus mask onto that Max Barry pic.

Done. Anyone got a place to upload it?
Lapse
24-12-2003, 08:32
This is Sal here i think, atleast following the URL from the pic

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/aboutme.html

This is Max:
http://www.maxbarry.com/max/

Bit difference there :P
Myrth
24-12-2003, 15:56
This is Sal here i think, atleast following the URL from the pic

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/aboutme.html

This is Max:
http://www.maxbarry.com/max/

Bit difference there :P

Have you read the alternate text for the Max Barry pictures?

Max lurks in the shadows, waiting to strike

:lol:
Myrth
24-12-2003, 18:46
Hmm... I visited that website out of curiosity. It would seem that Sal's name is Tim, he's a socialist (w00t!) and he likes CG art and dressing up as warhammer figures for Hallowe'en :shock:
http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/tmbleftsideprofile.jpg

I wonder why he doesn't use that one for his sig :P
Goobergunchia
24-12-2003, 21:11
Hmm... I visited that website out of curiosity. It would seem that Sal's name is Tim, he's a socialist (w00t!) and he likes CG art and dressing up as warhammer figures for Hallowe'en :shock:
http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/tmbleftsideprofile.jpg

I wonder why he doesn't use that one for his sig :P

That site scares me, for some odd reason. And it also failed to tell what Salusa's main nation is.
Unfree People
24-12-2003, 21:43
Sorry guys, but that's actually Scolo's website ;) and Scolo's piccies. Apparently he's just letting Sal use the server space, or something.
24-12-2003, 21:55
---Post deleted by NationStates Moderators---
Either rude.......or containing the real identity of Max and proving it. I personnally think he is Sputniks.
Goobergunchia
24-12-2003, 21:58
---Post deleted by NationStates Moderators---
Either rude.......or containing the real identity of Max and proving it. I personnally think he is Sputniks.

Actually TSE had all of his posts purged.

Sorry guys, but that's actually Scolo's website and Scolo's piccies. Apparently he's just letting Sal use the server space, or something.

:idea: Maybe Salusa is Scolo....that would explain why Salusa wouldn't want mod status. ;)
24-12-2003, 22:34
---Post deleted by NationStates Moderators---
Either rude.......or containing the real identity of Max and proving it. I personnally think he is Sputniks.

Actually TSE had all of his posts purged.

Sorry guys, but that's actually Scolo's website and Scolo's piccies. Apparently he's just letting Sal use the server space, or something.

:idea: Maybe Salusa is Scolo....that would explain why Salusa wouldn't want mod status. ;)


Ah. That would explain it then.
Myrth
24-12-2003, 22:35
Rats. Thought I'd found the identity of the Tech Modling there :evil:
Unfree People
24-12-2003, 22:42
:idea: Maybe Salusa is Scolo....that would explain why Salusa wouldn't want mod status. ;)


Ah. That would explain it then. lol... could one person have the time to be a tech modling and a GM? they'd be some kind of amazing super hero, if so :lol:


Heehee Myrth but you did find Scolo's not-so-secret identity. That counts for something... right? hehheh.
Aquilla
27-12-2003, 03:33
Violet cannot be the below, they are all online right now, and violet is too.

Abu-Dhabi Khristatata, Academear, Allemonde, Allstonland, Aquilla, Armeggedon, Ascetic Erudites, Ashua Valley, Aviopia, BabaMataLonia, Bacchical, Beer-Swilling Rednecks, Bigmenistan, Britmattia, Chesterjay, Citagazze, Colerica, Commerce Heights, Corvida, Cottonisking, Credonia, Cthulhu_fhtagn, Dominancy, Doujin, Dundaine, Eredron, Foe Hammer, Foofetahria, Foxxinnia, Fuggolia, Giant Zucchini, Glam Rockers, Grimdale, Hapkido and Grappling, Har Land, Hatchibombitar, Hawkin, HE HATE ME, Hot KimChi, Hudecia, Hutu, Isla Saudade, Itzhakistan, Khenala, King Binks, Langham, Larkinia, Letila, Listonethes, Lurtz, MabenLand, Mad Fools, Meribel, Mirkai, Monkeypimp, Myrth, Naleth, Negatronia, Neo Nuria, New Boniventure, New Martial Sparta, Northern Dalmatia, Not Japan, Nova Cape Breton, Obscure Nation, Omz222, Onn, Parratoga, Paxania, PCCoke, Phalanix, Raem, Raysia, Reagani, RichfieldMN, Samtonia, Scolopendra, Seibel Ambrosiana, Shildonia, Shinoxia, Sizzle, Skullzz, Soriyac, Soviet Transylvania, Spherical objects, Spiritual Anarchy, Stfrn, Sydia, Tactical Grace, Terrastralis, The Evil Overlord, The Gunslingers, The Last Anarchy Order, The Lowcountry, The Saddamized States, The Smoking Man, The Vecne Mesto, The wandering cooks, The Zoogie People, TROUSRS, TYG, UberRepublicans, United Arms, Urkish People, Walten, Weitzel, Western Might, Westminster, World Aryan Domination, Wunderkinder, Zvarinograd
HC Eredivisie
27-12-2003, 15:15
i've been online with a puppet at the same time, so [violet] could still be anyone of them.
Aquilla
28-12-2003, 03:08
How do you do that?
HC Eredivisie
28-12-2003, 13:26
How do you do that?

easy, the list is based on the activity from the most recent 5 minutes, just visit the forums with a pppet and them swicht to another country.
The Most Glorious Hack
28-12-2003, 13:50
How do you do that?

easy, the list is based on the activity from the most recent 5 minutes, just visit the forums with a pppet and them swicht to another country.

Or, open with two different browsers...
Lapse
28-12-2003, 15:29
Okay, now its time for blackmail...or bribery, hmm, im not sure what you call it.

[violet] If you do not reveal your true identity, i will not purchase Jennifer government or see the movie :twisted:


[EDIT] Just for the record, ive been looking around for the book for weeks now. Max, Could you get Angus and Robertson up around Brisbane to stock the book please, and also while your at it reveal your identity
Myrth
28-12-2003, 16:18
How do you do that?

easy, the list is based on the activity from the most recent 5 minutes, just visit the forums with a pppet and them swicht to another country.

Or, open with two different browsers...

You can't do that because of the way the forum sessions work. If you sign in with another browser window, it overwrites the session cookie set by the other browser.
The Most Glorious Hack
28-12-2003, 16:29
You can't do that because of the way the forum sessions work. If you sign in with another browser window, it overwrites the session cookie set by the other browser.

Not if you use a different browser program.
Myrth
28-12-2003, 16:31
You can't do that because of the way the forum sessions work. If you sign in with another browser window, it overwrites the session cookie set by the other browser.

Not if you use a different browser program.

Aaaah, yes. That would work.
HC Eredivisie
28-12-2003, 20:28
You can't do that because of the way the forum sessions work. If you sign in with another browser window, it overwrites the session cookie set by the other browser.

Not if you use a different browser program.

or IE isn't a browser program or you're wrong or i'm just stupid

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I'm both of them.
28-12-2003, 23:04
(sits twiddling thumbs, not having a clue what is going on.)
Lapse
29-12-2003, 03:02
(sits twiddling thumbs, not having a clue what is going on.)


lol, same.


Now we need max or [violet] to reply to my bribery/blackmail :P
SalusaSecondus
29-12-2003, 03:06
Now we need max or [violet] to reply to my bribery/blackmail :P

You're gonna have to offer more than that if you expect me to tell you.
Myrth
29-12-2003, 03:13
Now we need max or [violet] to reply to my bribery/blackmail :P

You're gonna have to offer more than that if you expect me to tell you.

I will sacrifice 3 smurfs to you, and buy you a new nose. How does that sound? :D
Lapse
29-12-2003, 05:29
Now we need max or [violet] to reply to my bribery/blackmail :P

You're gonna have to offer more than that if you expect me to tell you.


Like what.......


what more do i have to do
Lapse
29-12-2003, 05:34
Now we need max or [violet] to reply to my bribery/blackmail :P

You're gonna have to offer more than that if you expect me to tell you.


So... that means that you are max or [violet]


muahahahahaha



I asked max or violet to tell me. You said you would require more than that to tell me.


You framed yourself as Max Barry. You wouldnt have 2 mod accounts. I dont think at least. Although then again you could be sal, Violet and Max, abecause this account isq tech, as opposed to admin
29-12-2003, 10:24
Now we need max or [violet] to reply to my bribery/blackmail :P

You're gonna have to offer more than that if you expect me to tell you.

You just have.
Myrth
29-12-2003, 14:55
SSIMB?
Lapse
29-12-2003, 15:03
SSIMB?

nehh, what does that mean
Myrth
29-12-2003, 15:05
SalusaSecondus is Max Barry.
Lapse
29-12-2003, 15:11
So, after 40 pages of debate, we have finally tricked Max into revealing who he is :twisted:
Myrth
29-12-2003, 15:21
No, we just got Sal to try and fool us :roll:
Sal isn't Max Barry :P
29-12-2003, 15:29
[violet] may stand for something or be a codename/word. Also, why are the []'s around it?
I think Max Barry is just a normal nation, he may even be in this very forum debating whether [violet] is him or not.
He probably pops up on the forums now and again, an experienced player who may dissapear for periods of time yet come back knowing what has been going on.
Myrth
29-12-2003, 15:32
Violet is a character from Max's book, Jennifer Government. The square brackets just indicate and admin.

Max does have a normal nation and does read over the forums, more specifically the NationStates 2 and Jennifer Government boards.
29-12-2003, 15:36
(have'nt read the books, so wouldnt know.) Are they out in the UK?
Myrth
29-12-2003, 15:37
(have'nt read the books, so wouldnt know.) Are they out in the UK?

Yep, you can get JG from most good bookshops.
About £1 of it goes straight to Max and helps fund NationStates :D
Lapse
29-12-2003, 15:37
No, we just got Sal to try and fool us :roll:


whos we.

Are you Max Barry now :wink:
29-12-2003, 15:40
No, we just got Sal to try and fool us :roll:


whos we.

Are you Max Barry now :wink:

WE, us, the ones trying to guess.
Aquilla
30-12-2003, 02:51
Or... here's an :idea:

A while back there was a thread where some clueless n00b claimed to have uncovered evidence that Ineptia was Max Barry.

All the mods were adamant in proclaiming he was NOT, locking the thread, another mod unlocks to state same view; [violet] and Ineptia say that Ineptia is not Max Barry, etc. etc.

This can only mean one thing - they had something to hide - Ineptia IS Max Barry!

And the name fits, too. Since Max Barry is rather, shall I say, inept at writing books.

Please don't kill me. I hated JG
Goobergunchia
30-12-2003, 02:55
No, we just got Sal to try and fool us :roll:
Sal isn't Max Barry :P

Salusa said once that he lives in Upstate New York. Therefore, he's not Max Barry.

Or... here's an

A while back there was a thread where some clueless n00b claimed to have uncovered evidence that Ineptia was Max Barry.

All the mods were adamant in proclaiming he was NOT, locking the thread, another mod unlocks to state same view; [violet] and Ineptia say that Ineptia is not Max Barry, etc. etc.

This can only mean one thing - they had something to hide - Ineptia IS Max Barry!

And the name fits, too. Since Max Barry is rather, shall I say, inept at writing books.

Please don't kill me. I hated JG

Slag said once that Ineptia lives in Dayton, OH, and that his girlfriend is related to Ineptia. Ergo, Ineptia isn't Max Barry.

The only mod that lives in Australia is Enodia, and Enodia's a December nation and a mod for a very long time. So my new theory: EIMB. ;)
Myrth
30-12-2003, 02:57
Hmm... a simple IP check on the Europe forum will tell me whether Ineptia could be Max Barry.
30-12-2003, 03:03
well I am definitely NOT Max Barry....
30-12-2003, 10:31
(this will sound really thick)
Is Max Barry Australlian then?
HC Eredivisie
30-12-2003, 10:44
(this will sound really thick)
Is Max Barry Australlian then?

:shock: :roll:


EIMB :shock: but Enodia knows Dutch, does Max too if that's true.
Lapse
30-12-2003, 10:59
(this will sound really thick)
Is Max Barry Australlian then?

yep

www.maxbarry.com/max


whats scary is that i have memorised that address
30-12-2003, 22:35
This is also scary.

http://www.waferbaby.com/corner/maxbarry/
Lapse
31-12-2003, 00:54
This is also scary.

http://www.waferbaby.com/corner/maxbarry/

thats.....weird. Doesnt reveal who MB is though :(
31-12-2003, 10:26
* A bad Odour enters the room :oops:



thats.....weird. Doesnt reveal who MB is though :(

Yeah i know, exceptionally wierd. It does show us Mr Barry tends to get into strange situations with reporters. I found particularly strange the comment by Monkey Boy in the last bit about 'alleys'. Complete madness.

Anyhoo, back onto the subject of WIMB (Who)?
Well, i personnally think his Admin name is [Dredd]. It says somewhere that [dredd] has only made 3 posts. Does anybody know what these were?
He is more likely to adopt a normal game name and hide in the shadows. I had suspicions about one country but they proved to be false, this guy is going to be a hard on to catch. I have al;so read some of the 'conspiracy' theorey's (sorry for my awful spelling) in Archives (i think). They make quite interesting reading if you have a few minutes to spare.
I dont think it is Neut, purely for his attitude when he first appeared on this thread, is Max.
Lapse
31-12-2003, 16:56
* A bad Odour enters the room :oops:

So unless MB has a BO problem that rules you out :P
Lapse
31-12-2003, 16:59
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5434&highlight=

[dredd]s only [remaining] post.

This probably makes it pretty likely that [dredd] is MB. Although it could be that puppet nation that all the mods have access too
31-12-2003, 17:04
* A bad Odour enters the room :oops:

So unless MB has a BO problem that rules you out :P

(My nation has been described as a bad odour in another thread, its a silent resistance)
Yeah, i suppose it does. Thanks for the link to [dredd], i'll go now. We'll get him in the end. Only another 300 or so nations to eliminate.


wow, that's weird. I just ried to view the Nations of [dredd] and [violet] and it linked back to my nation. Is'nt it wierd how as soon as someone made a comment about the lack of posts by [dredd], a Mod appears and locks the thing down.
Lapse
31-12-2003, 17:17
Thanks for the link to [dredd], i'll go now. We'll get him in the end. Only another 300 or so nations to eliminate.


wow, that's weird. I just ried to view the Nations of [dredd] and [violet] and it linked back to my nation. Is'nt it wierd how as soon as someone made a comment about the lack of posts by [dredd], a Mod appears and locks the thing down.

Yeah, the nations with the [] around them are just forum accounts and dont have a nation associated with the name so it just links back to your antion


and we have another several 10,000 left still. NAd then again, he might not even have a nation but rather just sits back and laughs at our patheic attempts to guess his identity
31-12-2003, 17:26
*A bad odour enters the room :oops:

10000????!!!!!!! (faints)




(Smelling salts finally work)

No, i definately think he has a Nation, there have been far too many hints. Not just from the Mods but other players as well.
10000??????? Well, it may take several yea- Centuries but, i'm still confident we'll get him. (eeeeeeeeeeeeeeventually)

( I aplogise for the fact that i keep pointing out these things that you lot already know, i'm still new and have'nt had as much ime reading the forums. Sorry.)
Lapse
31-12-2003, 17:32
http://z-builder.com/manga/eden/soph.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=730107#730107)

Reminds me of Key the Metal Idol...

But less disturbing. Then again, anything is less disturbing than Key...

ph34r my BB skilzthat is violet, in june
Lapse
31-12-2003, 17:33
( I aplogise for the fact that i keep pointing out these things that you lot already know, i'm still new and have'nt had as much ime reading the forums. Sorry.)

DOnt worry that your new, I remember when i was a little n00b, as opposed to a newbie as your coming across to me as (thats good)
01-01-2004, 06:13
Woah, I read that post...woah indeed. It was probably my first time on the boards and went through probably...100 posts, basically anything that looked cool...WOAH dredging up memories. Like the post "Come back Darksky, or Darkeye, or something, and a plea from all those now dead nations...woah definitely.

Well thanks for the memory recovery. Anyhow, does it matter who MB is/isn't on this site? Nope. Should you care? Nope. There are a million sites that are directed at authors and people go "Is that them, or is it them?" but in the end, it doesn't matter because the site loses any direct significance involving the author most of the time.
01-01-2004, 10:03
*A bad Odour enters the room :oops:

Yes it does matter. Dont ask why because none of us have a clue, we just have too.
Lapse
01-01-2004, 10:18
It does matter because if we know who MB is, we know who to not get into a war with
01-01-2004, 10:20
.......................there is that.
Kwaswhakistan
01-01-2004, 10:31
Have you people ever thought that maybe maxx barry doesn't even play th game or administrate the forums? instead, just reads them and laughs at you fools trying to find out which one is him when nobody is him? I have my own software development company and enjoy toying with the people on the forums and some of those who work for me. Some don't even know what I look like and i pretend to be random people just to mess with those who have seen my picture. it is great fun.
Nominor
01-01-2004, 12:06
Max is all and all is Max...
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01-01-2004, 12:19
Have you people ever thought that maybe maxx barry doesn't even play th game or administrate the forums? instead, just reads them and laughs at you fools trying to find out which one is him when nobody is him? I have my own software development company and enjoy toying with the people on the forums and some of those who work for me. Some don't even know what I look like and i pretend to be random people just to mess with those who have seen my picture. it is great fun.
HES MAX BARRY!!!
01-01-2004, 17:19
Founded: 15 Dec 2003


I doubt it. I think Max would spell better as well (i mean no offence by this, its just a theory). Though it may have given us an insight into a tactic of Max's. Perhaps he does keep changing nations every few months. He could have many puppets, one he uses to advise people with, [dredd] to modorate with and another to post normally with.
I have also seen evidence elsewhere that Max does look at the forums.
Aquilla
02-01-2004, 04:39
It does matter because if we know who MB is, we know who to not get into a war with

Well then, we must randomly declare war on everyone until we get deleted. Then we can find out!
Lapse
02-01-2004, 04:52
It does matter because if we know who MB is, we know who to not get into a war with

Well then, we must randomly declare war on everyone until we get deleted. Then we can find out!

good idea 8)

I declare war on @@nation@@
02-01-2004, 04:52
WIMB is a very important issue. What else would have this many replies on it? Even if it is ever found out there will be debates of the truth of it. :)
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02-01-2004, 04:53
WIMB is a very important issue. What else would have this many replies on it? Even if it is ever found out there will be debates of the truth of it. :)


and its fun.
02-01-2004, 04:58
well, yes, fun too.
02-01-2004, 05:39
Okay, you guys should remember the quote from whatever Max Barry website - he said this game "now threatens to take over my life" or something to that effect. Therefore, he must have a nation or forum account on this site. Without the forum, there's no way to be overwhelmed by the game. It's just not possible. So, if Max is [dredd], then he must also have a normal nation, because of [dredd]'s lack of posts. However, I doubt he's a high-profile nation like Parratoga or Spoffin (don't mind the specific examples), it just wouldn't make sense. It doesn't seem too unlikely that he is actually [violet].
Cuneo Island
02-01-2004, 05:40
Could be.
Spoffin
02-01-2004, 05:43
Okay, you guys should remember the quote from whatever Max Barry website - he said this game "now threatens to take over my life" or something to that effect. Therefore, he must have a nation or forum account on this site. Without the forum, there's no way to be overwhelmed by the game. It's just not possible. So, if Max is [dredd], then he must also have a normal nation, because of [dredd]'s lack of posts. However, I doubt he's a high-profile nation like Parratoga or Spoffin (don't mind the specific examples), it just wouldn't make sense. It doesn't seem too unlikely that he is actually [violet].Whaddya mean you don't think I'm Max Barry?
Lapse
02-01-2004, 07:04
Actually, a month or 2 back. I read a thread in nationstates:the book forum by violet. It said that the movie finnally got the go ahead. Although it kind of seems as if [violet] was talking as if he/she/it was MB
Lapse
02-01-2004, 07:17
HEY, i got a mods word (i dunno wether its true or not but...

]This is an interesting idea. I don't think Max will be taking on something like this (other books to write, y'know), but I do remember someone else was talking about collecting an anthology together.
Aha, so you admit you're not Max?
*plots conspiracy theory*

Well, duh. Everyone knows that SSIMB...

in: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98760&highlight=
02-01-2004, 07:40
it is a mod/admin lie! this can not be so easy :lol:
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02-01-2004, 09:32
it is a mod/admin lie! this can not be so easy :lol:

everything points too sal, that, and the blackmail responce

im not sure wether i really believe it yet though
02-01-2004, 10:00
Well then, we must randomly declare war on everyone until we get deleted. Then we can find out!

good idea 8)

I declare war on @@nation@@[/quote]


Why dont we just declare war on Australia, that'll definately find him! :P :P
Naleth
02-01-2004, 10:24
(My first post on this thread ... )
New Theory!

This Guy (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=tyrone) IMB. At the moment, he has a population of -2640 Million, and exists in multiple places. He has several positions on the UN rankings, and his nation is listed in Australia (nudge) and the Pacific Army.

Since Max Barry = God in nationstates, only he should be able to exist at multiple points in space simultaniously and compose his nation of "non"people ... Plus the title "Negative Sized, System Manipulating Nation" which gets an error when you try to enter it .. and it's a little suggestive anywhen.
See the thread "nation rank bug?" for the actual storry on how this guy got that way, though


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SalusaSecondus
02-01-2004, 10:28
(My first post on this thread ... )
New Theory!

This Guy (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=tyrone) IMB. At the moment, he has a population of -2640 Million, and exists in multiple places. He has several positions on the UN rankings, and his nation is listed in Australia (nudge) and the Pacific Army.

Since Max Barry = God in nationstates, only he should be able to exist at multiple points in space simultaniously and compose his nation of "non"people ... Plus the title "Negative Sized, System Manipulating Nation" which gets an error when you try to enter it .. and it's a little suggestive anywhen.

Actually, this one, I'll quash. This nation demonstrates why you shouldn't manipulate the system and exploit flaws in the game. It pisses us off, just a tad. He will shrink until such a time as we restore his population.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/salusasecondus/salusasecondus2.jpg
SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

P.S. Thank you to Neut for making my dreams a reality with this nation.
Naleth
02-01-2004, 10:31
I so just noticed that and put a little disclaimer at the bottom of the post ... (right before I read the post you made here).
Total n Utter Insanity
02-01-2004, 11:20
If SSIMB then I'll eat his hat.
Kwaswhakistan
02-01-2004, 12:06
dont you guys get it? i killed max barry and took his identity! the mods just dont know it yet. max barry was [dredd] but i killed him way back when and took his identity. i just now decided to start playin NS again.
Lapse
02-01-2004, 12:17
http://www.freewebs.com/lapse2/salhat2.jpg
(if that didnt work, type this into the address bar
http://www.freewebs.com/lapse2/salhat2.jpg

EAT! EAT! EAT!
02-01-2004, 22:35
Mr Lapse, have you not mentioned your homeland yet?
Lapse
03-01-2004, 07:40
Well then, we must randomly declare war on everyone until we get deleted. Then we can find out!
good idea 8)

I declare war on @@nation@@


Why dont we just declare war on Australia, that'll definately find him! :P :P


Oi. You said that delibewratly. I an Aussie, i dont know how you know it but i am. You declare war on Aus ill ill n00k you.
03-01-2004, 09:38
Hehehe, nah, i didnt realise you were an Aussie when i said about declaring war on Australia. That intelligence has only recently come to me.
Now you mention it though.....
Lapse
03-01-2004, 09:53
Mr Lapse, have you not mentioned your homeland yet?

then whats this about?
03-01-2004, 09:54
This is what i found the other day when browsing the threads, it made me think (rare) about what we are actually trying to find. An experienced NS player who comes from Australlia.

'YAY, the aussie came 6th or somthing. Even though im from Australia I was hoping hed lose. hes such a...non aussie'
03-01-2004, 09:57
could be him could be one of his friends we may never know.......
03-01-2004, 10:04
The quote was taken from a post by Lapse
imported_Comdidia
03-01-2004, 10:06
Don't make me start a conspiracy about violet and Max now.......that will only lead to trouble since these mods are evil....
Sirocco
03-01-2004, 10:19
*throws a few random theories out*

Max Barry is Lord Lucan!

Max Barry is dead!

Max Barry is a small toaster named Harold!

Max Barry is behind you!

Nooooo!
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:23
Max Barry is behind you!




what, so whoever posts after me now is max barry
imported_Comdidia
03-01-2004, 10:24
post....lapse is wierd.
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:28
This is what i found the other day when browsing the threads, it made me think (rare) about what we are actually trying to find. An experienced NS player who comes from Australlia.

'YAY, the aussie came 6th or somthing. Even though im from Australia I was hoping hed lose. hes such a...non aussie'yeah thats me.... but Guy Sebastian... Hes such a.....[insert profanty that would get me deated by mods here]
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:28
post....lapse is wierd.

CIMB
imported_Comdidia
03-01-2004, 10:29
whats cimb....you have 10 seconds before i nuclear carpet bomb you.
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:31
whats cimb....you have 10 seconds before i nuclear carpet bomb you.

Comdidia is Max Barry

and thanks, my GF say to tke anyone calling me weird as a compliment :P
imported_Comdidia
03-01-2004, 10:33
Then you got a smart one. Thats good now you'll be around for a long time. Mine is out to kill me i think.
darn now i have to actually invade him grrrr
I'm max berry? COOL.......i like black mage
03-01-2004, 10:38
LIMB.
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:38
Then you got a smart one. Thats good now you'll be around for a long time. Mine is out to kill me i think.
darn now i have to actually invade him grrrr
I'm max berry? COOL.......i like black mage


hey, you keep away from Lapse, or ill n00k you :P. And invade Australia. If your max then ill invade you MUAHAHAHAHHAH
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:39
LIMB.


*whispers*
shut up, shut up, keep it quiet
imported_Comdidia
03-01-2004, 10:39
Ok who are you your not lapse because lapse no talk like "you stay away from lapse" Invade me I DARE YOU. i already own australia and the arctic.
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:41
Ok who are you your not lapse because lapse no talk like "you stay away from lapse" Invade me I DARE YOU. i already own australia and the arctic.

Fine, I will MB
imported_Comdidia
03-01-2004, 10:42
Ok you will die at the hands of my oooober weapons. yes invade me so you are kicked outa the gda mwhaahahah
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:45
Ok you will die at the hands of my oooober weapons. yes invade me so you are kicked outa the gda mwhaahahah


ill just claim that you had wmds and you wre spying on me and you were plotting against DGNT
imported_Comdidia
03-01-2004, 10:47
Ok you will die at the hands of my oooober weapons. yes invade me so you are kicked outa the gda mwhaahahah


ill just claim that you had wmds and you wre spying on me and you were plotting against DGNT I'll admit to plotting against you and DGNT and the WMDs i got loads of them as for spying.....heck ya i spy on all *points to message board btw*
Lapse
03-01-2004, 10:52
Ok you will die at the hands of my oooober weapons. yes invade me so you are kicked outa the gda mwhaahahah


ill just claim that you had wmds and you wre spying on me and you were plotting against DGNT I'll admit to plotting against you and DGNT and the WMDs i got loads of them as for spying.....heck ya i spy on all *points to message board btw*


you dont have access to the secret forum... or the mod forum where DGNT and i have discused the most humerous ways to take you down. :twisted:
imported_Comdidia
03-01-2004, 10:54
I have been nuked into a radioactive crater.....turned into a zoo and nuked agian.......cant get much funnier then that....oh and if you read floor -13 hell you'll see what APCmeans....plus id rather have kurlej kill me and lock me up in my own mental institute...he seems much morel ikely to kill me anyway.
Lapse
03-01-2004, 11:06
I have been nuked into a radioactive crater.....turned into a zoo and nuked agian.......cant get much funnier then that....oh and if you read floor -13 hell you'll see what APCmeans....plus id rather have kurlej kill me and lock me up in my own mental institute...he seems much morel ikely to kill me anyway.

nahh we got funnier ideas
Patoxia
03-01-2004, 16:04
Hrm.. After reading through all of that, I think that [dredd](or maybe [violet])==Melkor Unchained==Max Berry.

Or maybe he's Cilbuper II...

Will we ever know?
03-01-2004, 22:07
Lapse, you fit most of the criteria for being MB, its gonna take a lot to prove you arent.
Like i said before, he is probably here talking about who he could be but he knows who he is, hes just laughing at us. (if that makes any sense.)
Myrth
03-01-2004, 22:37
Cilbuper was one of the nations who beta tested NationStates back in August... along with Maxtopia.

Now then, phpbb2 has support for a forum to be mod/admin only, and seeing as Usergroups have been disabled on this board, we know the Mod's forum is one of these. We also know that Max has access to the mod forum, which means that Max must have a mod/admin nation/forum account. This means that when Max is on, a nation we'd never heard of before will be in green or orange or there will be a hidden user online.
Seeing as profiles have been disabled on this forum, it means ordinary users can't be set to hidden, meaning the hidden user must be another mod/admin - i.e. Max.
I'm not sure how phpbb2 works, so the option for users to be hidden might be completely gone, even for mods/admins. In this scenario, it would be highly likely that Max was an existing mod/admin.
Goobergunchia
03-01-2004, 22:49
Cilbuper was one of the nations who beta tested NationStates back in August... along with Maxtopia.

Now then, phpbb2 has support for a forum to be mod/admin only, and seeing as Usergroups have been disabled on this board, we know the Mod's forum is one of these. We also know that Max has access to the mod forum, which means that Max must have a mod/admin nation/forum account. This means that when Max is on, a nation we'd never heard of before will be in green or orange or there will be a hidden user online.
Seeing as profiles have been disabled on this forum, it means ordinary users can't be set to hidden, meaning the hidden user must be another mod/admin - i.e. Max.
I'm not sure how phpbb2 works, so the option for users to be hidden might be completely gone, even for mods/admins. In this scenario, it would be highly likely that Max was an existing mod/admin.

My personal theory is that Max is [dredd] - the stealth admin.
Aquilla
04-01-2004, 02:59
[violet] is a crumpet toaster!
Aquilla
04-01-2004, 03:01
[violet] is a crumpet toaster!
Lapse
04-01-2004, 06:21
[violet] is a crumpet toaster!

tahtlpl explain alot :P
General ducky
04-01-2004, 06:43
hey this isnt anything apart of your confo but i would like to know how you check all your money and your military and check up upon your town aand all that other stuff please send me a telegram about it or send a message here
signed
general ducky :?: :?: :?: :roll:
Lapse
04-01-2004, 06:51
hey this isnt anything apart of your confo but i would like to know how you check all your money and your military and check up upon your town aand all that other stuff please send me a telegram about it or send a message here
signed
general ducky :?: :?: :?: :roll:


1. see the stickies
2. dont post things like this in a topic totally unrelated too it
Topnotch Toast
04-01-2004, 06:55
I'm not sure how phpbb2 works, so the option for users to be hidden might be completely gone, even for mods/admins. In this scenario, it would be highly likely that Max was an existing mod/admin.

Admin can edit the profiles of people in the Admin section, and 'Hide your online status' can be turned on through that. But then Max has to be on the userlist. Does he post or not? Hmm...

-TT
General ducky
04-01-2004, 10:49
hello this is general ducky at your service
i want to know how do i check how much money i have and what my military is like to i want to know what my town looks like can any one help me i need help you can send me a telegram or on here i hope one of you can help or more people can and i wanted to know if i can be allainces with anyone or go to war with anyone respond as soon as possible
signed general ducky
04-01-2004, 11:07
hello this is general ducky at your service
i want to know how do i check how much money i have and what my military is like to i want to know what my town looks like can any one help me i need help you can send me a telegram or on here i hope one of you can help or more people can and i wanted to know if i can be allainces with anyone or go to war with anyone respond as soon as possible
signed general ducky

Like we have already said, read the 'Stickies' in the other forums (Nanakaland writes particularly useful stuff).
You can create your military using real figures for a country close to your population. Your population grows over time and you will have to increase your military to grow with it.
See the 'Show of your military here' thread for ideas of realistic militaries. There are also several GDP calculators floating around, these help you to work out your nation budget and your military budget.
The most important rule is not to Godmod (Ie: I have 10000000000000000000000 nukes and they are all coming at you along with my 793939393939393 tanks and 383983847587598259953196431 Infantry.)
Godmodding really annoys people on here (as i found out) so dont do it.
I wouldnt even think of declaring war or making alliances etc unitl you have read the stickies and got a good idea ofwhat this thing needs.
Good spelling and few typo's also helps things to run smoother. also, you might be better adding some punctuation to you posts, paragraphs too.
TRY NOT TO ALWAYS WRITE IN CAPS BECAUSE IT DOESNT MEAN WE WILL PAY MORE ATTANTION TO YOU AND IT ALSO ANNOYS US.
Should you post anything unsuitable, wathc out for the Mods (looks left and right). Man, these guys (and gals) can really kick butt when they want.

Hope that helps but next time, post your request in the right forum.
Thanks, SD
Lapse
04-01-2004, 11:10
GDIMB

it makes perfect sence... he comes in the who is max barry asking an off topic question, everyone just passes him off as a newbie and doesnt pay attention to him and the topic.


we have you now MB :twisted:
04-01-2004, 11:14
Nah, MB knows how to use Punctuation, he is a writer after all.
I thikn this is just you trying to throw us off your scent. Its not gonna work this time, LIMB. hehehe.
Lapse
04-01-2004, 11:17
Nah, MB knows how to use Punctuation, he is a writer after all.
I thikn this is just you trying to throw us off your scent. Its not gonna work this time, LIMB. hehehe.

well, if i was mb, i would pyt a few typos in from tim to time
SR
04-01-2004, 11:30
He's not Max Barry... I know him in real life. he's a simple minded persom who likes fish and trips over and hurts himself without any help at all... but he does spend a lot of time writing some story about a agent with corporations and he does nothing but talk about NS... wait... connection forming...
04-01-2004, 11:37
And i can be sure you are not a Lapse/MB puppet because?
SR
04-01-2004, 11:38
"This statement was made of my own free will"*
*Conditions apply
04-01-2004, 11:47
LAPSE, take the gun out of his back!
Lapse
04-01-2004, 11:48
And i can be sure you are not a Lapse/MB puppet because?


and how can i be sure your not lapses/mMB puppet?
04-01-2004, 11:54
Well for one i am female.
Lapse
04-01-2004, 11:58
how do you know max barry isnt female?
Catholic Europe
04-01-2004, 11:58
how do you know max barry isnt female?

Because we've seen pictures of him on his website.
04-01-2004, 12:00
Two, i am not Autrallian
Lapse
04-01-2004, 13:12
how do you know max barry isnt female?

Because we've seen pictures of him on his website.

how do we know they are him?
Lapse
04-01-2004, 13:14
Two, i am not Autrallian


you might not be Australlian but you could be Australian


err....damit. that disproves that theory.
Lapse
04-01-2004, 14:28
I have a new candidate to be our elusive MB

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=241133

a senior forum mod, yet, with a lower post count than you would expect for a mod. If you follow it, it takes you back to your nation, yet it has no square brackets :?
04-01-2004, 14:55
Hmmmm. Could be. If it is MB then MB has a rather...how shall i put this.....male mind.
If you look at his entire post count, it shows his posts. Some of the topics he's in are pretty scary. Also, i wouldnt want to cross this guy, he can get pretty mad if you annoy him. All we gotta do is work out why he's called himself TJHairball. Somone should try and see if he is an Aussie.
Notice how the Mods have completely dissapered from this topic, yet you can bet whatever you like that they are watching it. They've probably got one of those MiniMods/Wannabe Mods in here with us, just making sure we dont get too close.
Lapse, you stil have'nt proved that you arent MB.
Catholic Europe
04-01-2004, 15:02
how do you know max barry isnt female?

Because we've seen pictures of him on his website.

how do we know they are him?

I don't see any reason as to why they would put fake pictures of Max onto his website.
Lapse
04-01-2004, 15:07
how do you know max barry isnt female?

Because we've seen pictures of him on his website.

how do we know they are him?

I don't see any reason as to why they would put fake pictures of Max onto his website.

its too cloud our judgement.

i dunno

i ordered the book a few days ago so ill see what maxes writing style is like and how he feels towards different things. We can track him down :twisted:
Catholic Europe
04-01-2004, 15:09
its too cloud our judgement.

i dunno

i ordered the book a few days ago so ill see what maxes writing style is like and how he feels towards different things. We can track him down :twisted:

Okay...we'll wait and see.
04-01-2004, 15:10
Does anybody know if MB is married? If he isnt it will eliminate one of the Mods at least.
Lapse
04-01-2004, 15:17
Hmmmm. Could be. If it is MB then MB has a rather...how shall i put this.....male mind. mehh, i was just defending myself

If you look at his entire post count, it shows his posts. Some of the topics he's in are pretty scary. Also, i wouldnt want to cross this guy, he can get pretty mad if you annoy him. All we gotta do is work out why he's called himself TJHairball. Somone should try and see if he is an Aussie.
what wonders me is how he became a mod at a [relatively] low post count. I think he probably isnt the secret multimod account, because he seems to have the same attitude alot

Notice how the Mods have completely dissapered from this topic, yet you can bet whatever you like that they are watching it. They've probably got one of those MiniMods/Wannabe Mods in here with us, just making sure we dont get too close. i dunno, they all disappeared when we found circumstantial evdence of sal. But then again the last page was just you and me and comodia having a bit of a chat:P

Lapse, you stil have'nt proved that you arent MB. :twisted:
Lapse
04-01-2004, 15:36
Does anybody know if MB is married? If he isnt it will eliminate one of the Mods at least.
i didnt find much on the website. only one possible sentence:

The idea of a query letter is to take this book you've written, this incomparable masterpiece that took five years and destroyed your marriage, and summarize it on a single piece of paper while still leaving enough room in the margins for a publisher or agent to scribble, "Sorry, not for us." You have to try to pitch your book in such an intriguing way that the publisher immediately writes back to you, demanding to see sample chapters (or the entire manuscript).
http://www.maxbarry.com/max/writers.html

long sentences??
04-01-2004, 15:46
Like i said, you still havent proved you arent MB.
I have a completely new theory and it is not much to do with this. 1) Neut is not MB, Neut is married.
2) I think Neut is married to Stephistan.
Lapse, how did you het into the Mods only forum?
Lapse
04-01-2004, 15:46
Has anyone tried emailing Max about this. It would be funny if he was going to tell us if we just asked him nicely :P
Lapse
04-01-2004, 15:48
Like i said, you still havent proved you arent MB.
I have a completely new theory and it is not much to do with this. 1) Neut is not MB, Neut is married.
2) I think Neut is married to Stephistan.
Lapse, how did you het into the Mods only forum?

when did i get into the mods only forum?
04-01-2004, 15:51
you dont have access to the secret forum... or the mod forum where DGNT and i have discused the most humerous ways to take you down.
Myrth
04-01-2004, 15:54
If you look at his entire post count, it shows his posts. Some of the topics he's in are pretty scary. Also, i wouldnt want to cross this guy, he can get pretty mad if you annoy him. All we gotta do is work out why he's called himself TJHairball. Somone should try and see if he is an Aussie.
what wonders me is how he became a mod at a [relatively] low post count. I think he probably isnt the secret multimod account, because he seems to have the same attitude alot

TJ = Tahar Joblis :wink:
Myrth
04-01-2004, 15:54
I'm not sure how phpbb2 works, so the option for users to be hidden might be completely gone, even for mods/admins. In this scenario, it would be highly likely that Max was an existing mod/admin.

Admin can edit the profiles of people in the Admin section, and 'Hide your online status' can be turned on through that. But then Max has to be on the userlist. Does he post or not? Hmm...

-TT

The profile section has been completely deleted.
Lapse
04-01-2004, 15:54
you dont have access to the secret forum... or the mod forum where DGNT and i have discused the most humerous ways to take you down.

lol, thats in the GDA. i thought you thought i was in the ns mods only forum


oh, so your going to take down your 'Max Barry' and get yourself deatd are you :wink:
04-01-2004, 15:57
If you look at his entire post count, it shows his posts. Some of the topics he's in are pretty scary. Also, i wouldnt want to cross this guy, he can get pretty mad if you annoy him. All we gotta do is work out why he's called himself TJHairball. Somone should try and see if he is an Aussie.
what wonders me is how he became a mod at a [relatively] low post count. I think he probably isnt the secret multimod account, because he seems to have the same attitude alot

TJ = Tahar Joblis :wink:#
Tahar who???????
Lapse
04-01-2004, 15:57
If you look at his entire post count, it shows his posts. Some of the topics he's in are pretty scary. Also, i wouldnt want to cross this guy, he can get pretty mad if you annoy him. All we gotta do is work out why he's called himself TJHairball. Somone should try and see if he is an Aussie.
what wonders me is how he became a mod at a [relatively] low post count. I think he probably isnt the secret multimod account, because he seems to have the same attitude alot

TJ = Tahar Joblis :wink:

how did you come up with that. Quickly, before we start screaming MIMB
04-01-2004, 16:30
you dont have access to the secret forum... or the mod forum where DGNT and i have discused the most humerous ways to take you down.

lol, thats in the GDA. i thought you thought i was in the ns mods only forum


oh, so your going to take down your 'Max Barry' and get yourself deatd are you :wink:

Expl;ain plese before my little mind explodes.
Lapse
04-01-2004, 17:27
you dont have access to the secret forum... or the mod forum where DGNT and i have discused the most humerous ways to take you down.

lol, thats in the GDA. i thought you thought i was in the ns mods only forum


oh, so your going to take down your 'Max Barry' and get yourself deatd are you :wink:

Expl;ain plese before my little mind explodes.

later... its 2:30 am... gotta sleep
Goobergunchia
04-01-2004, 18:17
If you look at his entire post count, it shows his posts. Some of the topics he's in are pretty scary. Also, i wouldnt want to cross this guy, he can get pretty mad if you annoy him. All we gotta do is work out why he's called himself TJHairball. Somone should try and see if he is an Aussie.
what wonders me is how he became a mod at a [relatively] low post count. I think he probably isnt the secret multimod account, because he seems to have the same attitude alot

TJ = Tahar Joblis :wink:

how did you come up with that. Quickly, before we start screaming MIMB

It's common knowledge.

FYI, Stephistan is married to Zeppistan, not Neut.
Topnotch Toast
04-01-2004, 22:12
I'm not sure how phpbb2 works, so the option for users to be hidden might be completely gone, even for mods/admins. In this scenario, it would be highly likely that Max was an existing mod/admin.

Admin can edit the profiles of people in the Admin section, and 'Hide your online status' can be turned on through that. But then Max has to be on the userlist. Does he post or not? Hmm...

-TT

The profile section has been completely deleted.

Well, the file that edits those things is still there. If they did change it, then they could just change things in the mySQL table. You never know....
imported_Comdidia
05-01-2004, 05:45
"Max Berry has been found dead from a drug overdose last night. He died taking every drug in his house and died a lonely lonely man with about six people attending the funeral later this week." That was from my paper today funny isnt it? Oh and 1 more thing in my phone book there is about 6 people all named Max Berry, (different middile intials mostly) and for all you know one or more players on ns could have the name max berry IT COULD BE ANYONE!!!
05-01-2004, 11:02
Thats fine, cause we are after Max Barry.
Lapse
05-01-2004, 11:08
lol, ive never actually worked out why they call him max berry from time to time :?
05-01-2004, 11:11
I've never got that either Lopse :?
Lapse
05-01-2004, 11:19
I've never got that either Lopse :?

so im lopse now am I? :lol:
05-01-2004, 19:17
It's Dreed i reckon.
05-01-2004, 19:20
Run that one past me again.........
(Lopse, you still havent proven you are not MB.)
imported_Comdidia
06-01-2004, 01:10
ok Memory Lapse be quiet down now or ill prove you have drugs in your coutnry to justify a carpet nuking.
Lapse
06-01-2004, 02:40
ok Memory Lapse be quiet down now or ill prove you have drugs in your coutnry to justify a carpet nuking.

*raises eyebrow*
Lapse
06-01-2004, 02:44
Run that one past me again.........
(Lopse, you still havent proven you are not MB.)

and neither have you
Aquilla
06-01-2004, 04:25
SalusaSecondus is a planet!

Yeah I was browsing the technical forum and my dad leans over my shoulder and says "SalusaSecondus? Hey that's a planet from the Dune series!"

So your secret's out.
Lapse
06-01-2004, 06:10
SalusaSecondus is a planet!

Yeah I was browsing the technical forum and my dad leans over my shoulder and says "SalusaSecondus? Hey that's a planet from the Dune series!"

So your secret's out.

ahh
so
SSIAP
and
??IMB
Total n Utter Insanity
06-01-2004, 12:09
http://home.earthlink.net/~tyrasis/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/commandtree.jpg

Proof! Max and [violet] aren't the same person!
Lapse
06-01-2004, 13:43
http://home.earthlink.net/~tyrasis/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/commandtree.jpg

Proof! Max and [violet] aren't the same person!


well that makes it clear :)
06-01-2004, 18:19
'Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him.'
06-01-2004, 18:21
'Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him.'

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111764&start=100
Aquilla
07-01-2004, 04:09
Wow.
Scolopendra
07-01-2004, 04:47
*grins*

Think so, eh? Hee hee hee.

Look again at the caption.

[violet], Our Most High Representative of the Tetragrammaton Lord of This World, Max Barry, wrote:

Now, commas can be used as parentheses.

[violet] (Our Most High Representative of the Tetragrammaton Lord of This World (Max Barry)) wrote:

Looking at grammar closely, we see that [violet] is Barry's representative, as "Max Barry" refers back to "Tetragrammaton Lord of This World" and "Our Most High Representative" refers back to "[violet]." This is already known.

It could be self-representative... it could not be. Am I going to tell you how to read it?

Where would the fun in that be? :wink:
07-01-2004, 09:09
Ah, so our mod friends have decided to join us again at last. Funny how they suddenly appear once we get a little closer to the target, told ya they were atching us.
08-01-2004, 03:05
Some mod or violet must be Max. He creates this awesome site and then leaves it without staying to make sure he likes it?
I doubt it...
He must be a violet or a mod to make sure he likes what he sees. No one could just abandon NS like that, nor would he settle for just a spot as a regular player.
Aquilla
08-01-2004, 05:14
Some mod or violet must be Max. He creates this awesome site and then leaves it without staying to make sure he likes it?
I doubt it...
He must be a violet or a mod to make sure he likes what he sees. No one could just abandon NS like that, nor would he settle for just a spot as a regular player.

or a dredd or a modling.

I'm still going for SSIMB. What sort of nut comes to NS just for Technical?
08-01-2004, 08:45
Well i was on-line las night and noticed that [violet] was also on. I checked a few posts etc before returning to the main screen. Who should be gone but [violet] and who should now be on but our friend Mr Hairball.
Lapse
09-01-2004, 03:42
*grins*

Think so, eh? Hee hee hee.

Look again at the caption.

[violet], Our Most High Representative of the Tetragrammaton Lord of This World, Max Barry, wrote:

Now, commas can be used as parentheses.

[violet] (Our Most High Representative of the Tetragrammaton Lord of This World (Max Barry)) wrote:

Looking at grammar closely, we see that [violet] is Barry's representative, as "Max Barry" refers back to "Tetragrammaton Lord of This World" and "Our Most High Representative" refers back to "[violet]." This is already known.

It could be self-representative... it could not be. Am I going to tell you how to read it?

Where would the fun in that be?

SIMB
Goobergunchia
09-01-2004, 03:51
*grins*

Think so, eh? Hee hee hee.

Look again at the caption.

[violet], Our Most High Representative of the Tetragrammaton Lord of This World, Max Barry, wrote:

Now, commas can be used as parentheses.

[violet] (Our Most High Representative of the Tetragrammaton Lord of This World (Max Barry)) wrote:

Looking at grammar closely, we see that [violet] is Barry's representative, as "Max Barry" refers back to "Tetragrammaton Lord of This World" and "Our Most High Representative" refers back to "[violet]." This is already known.

It could be self-representative... it could not be. Am I going to tell you how to read it?

Where would the fun in that be?

SIMB

See page 38 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44769&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=740).
Myrth
09-01-2004, 15:55
SSIMB? You decide...

http://www.satanstephen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/SalusaMaxondus.jpg
Sirocco
09-01-2004, 20:00
SSIMB? You decide...

<snippity>

:lol:

*rolls around laughing like a malevolent hyena*
SalusaSecondus
09-01-2004, 20:09
SSIMB? You decide...

*falls of chair laughing so hard*
Myrth
10-01-2004, 00:56
Perhaps now Max will be lured into coming out of the shadows and posting :twisted:
Total n Utter Insanity
10-01-2004, 16:32
ROFLMFAO
Myrth
10-01-2004, 21:48
You certainly don't want to bump into him on a dark night :wink:
Aquilla
11-01-2004, 04:22
it wasn't THAT funny
Goobergunchia
11-01-2004, 18:58
it wasn't THAT funny

Oh, it was.
Lapse
12-01-2004, 03:03
the mask suits him :P
Aquilla
17-01-2004, 04:14
Tactical Grace is Max Barry, or a close friend of his. Max even named a site feature after her!
The Basenji
17-01-2004, 04:18
Grace is a him. :wink:
Cuneo Island
17-01-2004, 19:28
Maybe he should just tell us. I bet he is though.
Goobergunchia
17-01-2004, 20:56
Hopefully we'll find out during the chat.
Aquilla
18-01-2004, 03:02
Hopefully we'll find out during the chat.

Chat?
Naleth
20-01-2004, 09:46
Behold: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2619334#2619334
The reason the thread in Moderation was locked was because it was an appeal of a rather old policy decision made by the owner of the website. It has been decreed from on high that it will not change, thus no matter how many appeals there are, it won't change. Also, the thread was just a rehash of the same tired arguments that have been made several times before. Max's responce, through [violet], was, essentially, "tough shit."

*waits for official denial* ... I bet I can even predict how it's gonna come
"Max's response, through the operator of [violet]"
The Most Glorious Hack
20-01-2004, 11:08
Behold: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2619334#2619334
The reason the thread in Moderation was locked was because it was an appeal of a rather old policy decision made by the owner of the website. It has been decreed from on high that it will not change, thus no matter how many appeals there are, it won't change. Also, the thread was just a rehash of the same tired arguments that have been made several times before. Max's responce, through [violet], was, essentially, "tough shit."

*waits for official denial* ... I bet I can even predict how it's gonna come
"Max's response, through the operator of [violet]"


"Max's responce, through [violet]..."

As in, Max didn't access the site, he told the admin, and the admin told us.

Example: "The President's responce, through Ari Fliescher, was 'Screw Osama'."
Ballotonia
20-01-2004, 11:16
"Max's responce, through [violet]..."

As in, Max didn't access the site, he told the admin, and the admin told us.

Example: "The President's responce, through Ari Fliescher, was 'Screw Osama'."

But... but... doesn't that mean you've just told us that Max != [violet]

You're not supposed to do that! Quick, fix it!

Ballotonia
Naleth
20-01-2004, 11:16
Thought so, but it was worth a shot :P

It all depends on if you think of violet as an account or a person. My first reaction was "Aha! Proof! [violet] is a collective account and Max uses it!" 'cause that's how I think (I'd changed my mind about it by the time I posted it, though).
(So called it)
The Most Glorious Hack
20-01-2004, 11:20
"Max's responce, through [violet]..."

As in, Max didn't access the site, he told the admin, and the admin told us.

Example: "The President's responce, through Ari Fliescher, was 'Screw Osama'."

But... but... doesn't that mean you've just told us that Max != [violet]

You're not supposed to do that! Quick, fix it!

Ballotonia

I can neither confirm nor deny that.
Ballotonia
20-01-2004, 11:20
Thought so, but it was worth a shot :P

It all depends on if you think of violet as an account or a person. My first reaction was "Aha! Proof! [violet] is a collective account and Max uses it!" 'cause that's how I think (I'd changed my mind about it by the time I posted it, though).
(So called it)

Oh, so THAT's the way you read it. Ok, I was reading it the way Hack said and was waiting for a different explanation.

Darn. Sorta.

Ballotonia
Naleth
20-01-2004, 12:01
Hmm .. the possibility for two interpretations means it could be either one, so much for my proof. :evil: :cry:
Lapse
20-01-2004, 12:42
although, it appears to me that the mods are slightly protective of people accusing [violet] of been Max barry.

(MGH, scolo stepped in last page. and times between our violet accusations there isnt a mod too be seen)
Huzen Hagen
25-01-2004, 17:35
Right i hope this idea works. It could either prove that Max Barry is [violet] or catergoricly(sp?) disprove it. I got the idea from this (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2643997&highlight=#2643997) thread, right where Enodia says "a fellow Aussie (Max)". Now if [violet] was Max then s/he would be posting at similar times to Enodia. Any way this wouldn't work?.

http://www.blackadderhall.com/images/baldrick.jpg
Baldrick
Minister for Cunning Plans
Myrth
25-01-2004, 19:20
[viole] is usually around from 8-10 AM GMT, which is around 7-9PM for Aussies, assuming [violet] is from the east.
Goobergunchia
25-01-2004, 19:50
[violet] is usually around from 8-10 AM GMT, which is around 7-9PM for Aussies, assuming [violet] is from the east.

Haven't the mods already acknowledged that [violet] is in Australia?
Ballotonia
28-01-2004, 10:17
In the thread An evening with Mr. Barry. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116062&start=20), [violet] wrote:

]Wow! I wonder what question I should ask!

Do not believe this! It's a purposeful misdirection trying to get us to think Max Barry isn't [violet] !!

I think.

Ballotonia
Myrth
28-01-2004, 12:43
Yeah, that does kinda shift me back towards VIMB...
Huzen Hagen
28-01-2004, 17:37
I have seen a possible in my theory. The NS clock is 4 hours behind GMT not australian time, but this is the time zone for the north pole and a small area of Canada. This means it is probably a deliberate misdirection. Another thing is a mod hasnt posted on this thread since my last post. Maybei got really close and they are franticly trying to comeup with a feasble reply.
Lapse
29-01-2004, 10:35
or that it was no where near and they dont need to say anytrhing :wink:
Goobergunchia
30-01-2004, 03:35
<---- logs Max's IP from IRC
Peng-Pau
30-01-2004, 04:36
[violet] is Neutered Sputniks!!! :o

[violet] is admin@Modling Edit.lu.dl.cox.net * [violet]
Neutered_Sputniks is nunya@Modling Edit.lu.dl.cox.net * riiiight

They are one and the same!!! :o

I removed the IP addresses to prevent people from using them for computer/hacking attacks. -- SalusaSecondus
Desudoragon
30-01-2004, 09:27
Or maybe they are just related? I mean, they could be married or something.
30-01-2004, 10:27
<----Enjoys himself by looking at a stack of different IP addresses from which a series of unrelated people have posted and drawing exceedingly specious conclusions.

Ah, the powers of Mod.
Huzen Hagen
30-01-2004, 13:50
my thoery was either to stop people thinking that [violet] was Max Barry or prove it thta she was.
Myrth
30-01-2004, 13:58
[violet] was Neut messing around and [dredd] was Hack messing around :wink:

I made a note of Max's hostname etc. for future scans on Esper :P
Peng-Pau
30-01-2004, 19:48
I removed the IP addresses to prevent people from using them for computer/hacking attacks. -- SalusaSecondus

Whoopsie, didn't think of that...
imported_United Morgan
01-02-2004, 04:17
Ok, look. [violet] has certaintly gone through a lot of trouble disguising who s/he is.

Who CARES?

If [violet] wanted us to know who s/he is, s/he would tell us.

Give it up, people!

Yeah. Max would've named himself something like [Maximum]. He would never ever use the name of his favourite colour or consider himself <shudders> neutered.
:)
imported_United Morgan
01-02-2004, 04:28
I'm sure he does actually play this game though. Somebody else already said it that he likely enjoys reading threads like this so there's no reason to believe he or anyone else that knows will reveal which nation or nations he is. And I'd guess he has, like a lot of players, more than one nation. There are nations nobody would ever guess is him. It just makes sense. His agent probably has one or more to.
My best guess is there's somewhere a password=protected region (or not) that is mostly Max and his friends.
Someday there will be a biography and all will be revealed.
If you were Max would you want everyone to know and start a thousand threads complaining about this, that, and the other thing directly to you?
Besides half the fun in not knowing is speculating.
imported_United Morgan
01-02-2004, 04:43
[violet] however is definatly an American if you go by the way certain words are spelled.
Unfree People
01-02-2004, 04:54
She's not, she's Australian, she's said so. I'll search out the link.

Edit: yo, here we are (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2436257&highlight=#2436257). Not the most conclusive of evidence, but good enough :D
Huzen Hagen
01-02-2004, 09:49
She's not, she's Australian, she's said so. I'll search out the link.

Edit: yo, here we are (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2436257&highlight=#2436257). Not the most conclusive of evidence, but good enough :D

But she disguised the fact by putting the website on Brazilian time
Myrth
01-02-2004, 22:27
Myrth
01-02-2004, 22:36
Interesting conversation on IRC earlier...


[8:53pm] <+Myrth> interesting
[8:53pm] <+Myrth> Max said he used to work on Shattered World
[8:54pm]«@ Unfree_People » so he did
[8:54pm] <+Myrth> and on the about page, it says the game was partly coded by Zikzak
[8:54pm]«@ Unfree_People » and?
[8:54pm] <+Myrth> well... the zikzak link takes you to the Shattered World website...
[8:54pm] <+Myrth> and when you look at the coders for Shattered World, who should be there but 'Dredd'
[8:55pm]«@ Unfree_People » Ooh.
[8:55pm] <+Myrth> 'Dredd' = Geoff Wong
[8:55pm] <+Myrth> so i was right
[8:56pm] <+Myrth> [dredd] is geoff wong
[8:56pm]«@ Unfree_People » who is geoff wong?
[8:56pm] <+Myrth> the guy accredited to helping code NationStates
[8:56pm] <+Myrth> also, there is a programmer on the list there called 'Trax'
[8:56pm] <+Myrth> with no real name or contact info
[8:56pm]«@ Unfree_People » Uh
[8:57pm] <+Myrth> there is a surname in the @RANDOMNAME@ which is 'Trax'
[8:57pm] <+Myrth> Max = Trax perhaps?
[8:57pm]«@ Unfree_People » ..sure
[8:57pm]«@ Unfree_People » that doesn't help us find out who his nation is, though
[8:58pm] <+Myrth> still
[8:58pm] <+Myrth> is interesting
[8:58pm]«@ Unfree_People » hmm yeah
[8:58pm] <+Myrth> we at least know who [dredd] is
[8:58pm]«@ Unfree_People » not that dredd actually does anything
[8:59pm] <+Myrth> also, Max's domain name on the IRC chat was .bigpond.net.au
[9:00pm] <+Myrth> and guess what the admin's e-mail for Shattered World is?
[9:00pm] <+Myrth> trice@bigpond.net.au
[9:00pm] <+Myrth> interesting, hmmm?
[9:00pm]«@ Unfree_People » maybe they know each other
[9:00pm]«@ Unfree_People » and thats how max got interested in it
[9:00pm] <+Myrth> I'll save this all in a notepad file for the next maxchat... hehe
[9:00pm] <+Myrth> should make for some good conversations
[9:00pm]«@ Unfree_People » lol
Goobergunchia
06-02-2004, 19:52
SalusaSecondus is anonymous@*******.utd.rochester.edu
MaxBarry is no@****************.vic.bigpond.net.au

Ergo, SSINMB.
Myrth
09-02-2004, 10:23
Uh, are you sure that's Salusa and not TJ?
I'm pretty sure that's TJHairball's hostname...

TJISS?
Goobergunchia
09-02-2004, 19:50
Uh, are you sure that's Salusa and not TJ?
I'm pretty sure that's TJHairball's hostname...

TJISS?

I grabbed it on a whois when Salusa was opping #nationstates_technical - Check the AOP list for #nationstates_technical if you want verification. Furthermore, Salusa has said previously that he's in Upstate New York - and Rochester is in Upstate New York.

A NickServ info query on Tahar_Joblis returned:
[13:48] -NickServ- Last seen address: mjtshell@*********.student.appstate.edu
Eta Carinae
17-02-2004, 06:48
Well, the photograph in the News section settled the matter. Max Barry isn't [violet], he's in shades of brown.
imported_Hein
25-02-2004, 05:41
sitll, the way he behaved at the end of the chat session..
29-02-2004, 00:12
Its all a conspiracy, chances are he does play the game. Most "Gods" or game makers do.

For example in Mafia the owner tONYB (or maybe it was Mort) made his own name, and being the maker he knew exactly what way to sign up to make him brilliant. He lasted for ages, nobody could kill him and there was nobody who he could kill. It was only when he came clean that his reign ended. And the name LazyBoy is now in Mafias history. So chances are he is here, he could even be this very thread starter ya just dont know!

Anyway its 11:10pm I have been drinking so time for me to shut up :wink:
Aquilla
29-02-2004, 03:06
So chances are he is here, he could even be this very thread starter ya just dont know!

Very possible.
Lapse
29-02-2004, 06:24
So chances are he is here, he could even be this very thread starter ya just dont know!

Very possible.

...
your max barry :shock:
Desudoragon
29-02-2004, 06:50
[dredd] is Geoff Wong.

[mantle] is possibly Max Barry.
Myrth
29-02-2004, 13:55
[dredd] is Geoff Wong.

[mantle] is possibly Max Barry.

[mantle] is Grated Cheese, who left NS some time ago.

Max must have a mod/admin admin account, because seeing as this forum has no usergroups, there's no other way to give him permission to enter the Mod/Admin board (Forum 7).

So Max is either [violet], or shares [violet]'s acount.
SalusaSecondus
02-03-2004, 05:22
SalusaSecondus is anonymous@*******.utd.rochester.edu
MaxBarry is no@****************.vic.bigpond.net.au

Ergo, SSINMB.

I guess that no one really sniffed that the rochester.edu server to determine that it was, in fact, a VPN . . .
Lapse
02-03-2004, 08:15
could this (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=bsajhfuen) nation be max?
Desudoragon
02-03-2004, 11:06
could this (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=bsajhfuen) nation be max?Indeed.
Aquilla
03-03-2004, 04:57
So chances are he is here, he could even be this very thread starter ya just dont know!

Very possible.

...
your max barry :shock:

OK boys he figured it out, got to delete him now
SalusaSecondus
03-03-2004, 07:24
So chances are he is here, he could even be this very thread starter ya just dont know!

Very possible.

...
your max barry :shock:

OK boys he figured it out, got to delete him now

On it.
Lapse
03-03-2004, 07:27
<----- still exists

Why do i get the idea that I'm been made a fool out of
Naleth
03-03-2004, 09:18
<----- still exists

Why do i get the idea that I'm been made a fool out of
The guy in that link on the other hand...
(what was it, by the way?)
Lapse
03-03-2004, 12:58
<----- still exists

Why do i get the idea that I'm been made a fool out of
The guy in that link on the other hand...
(what was it, by the way?)
It just takes you back too your nation

lol
HC Eredivisie
03-03-2004, 15:12
could this (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=bsajhfuen) nation be max?

:shock: I am Max Barry and I didn't even knew it :shock:
Corsairio
12-03-2004, 06:06
Max barry is a phenomenon that still carries on even to this day. To some he is the creator. To others in the Forum of Revelations, he is the anticreator, bringing about the armageddon within forum 7 days.

Others say he is the sole reason of life. Some say he is no reason for life.

Whatever he may be, le us consider him to be beyond this world.

Max Barry on Earth, aka [violet] is another story. We will discuss the Violet Cult on the next addition of The Smoking Man Anthology.

*takes a puff*
Aquilla
13-03-2004, 03:46
<----- still exists

Why do i get the idea that I'm been made a fool out of

No, Salusa just liked the nation so much he took it over himself. This is Salusa playing with your heads
Lapse
13-03-2004, 08:25
WOW!!... so im salusa now :shock:

and to think a few pages ago I was being accused of being Max Barry
SalusaSecondus
13-03-2004, 18:19
WOW!!... so im salusa now :shock:

and to think a few pages ago I was being accused of being Max Barry

Perhaps that is proof that I AM Max Barry.
NuMetal
13-03-2004, 18:22
Mayhaps Max Barry is actually a strange creature that steals people's souls and is in the process of using them to create NS2
Corsairio
14-03-2004, 05:02
Max Barry trancends this space. He is an intanglible title of a man actually name Bax Marry :lol: