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Actually, they don't "jump". What they do is create an artificial black whole directly in front of it. They project it so that it remains a constant distance away from the ship, so that as the ship is pulled towards it it moves farther away. This causes the ship to be pulled along in whatever direction you want to go, for as long as you can power the emitter. And since we use Ministar engines, we have an extreme range. Actually, due to the severe time screw up caused by black holes, the ships is still actually going slower than the speed of light, but not in relation to the rest of the universe.

(1000 posts in this topic!)

AH well mine do Jump. However they have to stop moving in normal space to do so. Our bigest ships can do 500 LY's in one jump but they have to fully charge the drives takes a long time and they will spend upwards of 3 weeks in hyperspace.

Oh what do you think? http://mysite.verizon.net/res6xz0v/

Okay, here's a simple way to explain it. If you're on a bus going 50 miles an hour, and you get up to walk to the front, you yourself are only going 5 miles an hour, but in relation to the rest of the world you're going 55 miles per hour. That way my ships still obey the laws of physics (the whole "matter can't reach the speed of light" thing) and still have FTL travel.

P.S. This is actually being considered by scientists as a possible method of achieving FTL travel in real life.

I was't doughting your method in fact I understood it just fine.

I know, I just figured it'd be a lot easier to understand with a modern example (LIke they do in Star Trek "If we could reflow the energy through the backup fizzler, we can overload the signature in the core!" "Like putting to much air into a balloon!")

Ok cool. Well I off to play Cataclysm, so Hasta.

Bye bye!

I'm looking to buy energy weapons for my spacecraft and FTL tech...... or at least some very high speed tech for long and short range space travel.

Anyone?

That'd be me! Go to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081 for all sorts of FTL ships, weapons, and other neat stuff.

P.S. you get a major discount for being a GA member.

I'll take a Mjolnir Remote Beam Cannon, Deimos class Corvette and a Orion class Destroyer.

Could you give me the names of your FTL tech and any specific energy weapons. I want to fit these to some of my own ships.

hehe your name has ass in it...you should be banned

im cool 8)

Could you post your order on the ship thread? I'm sorry, but otherwise it just gets really confusing. The Weapons are listed with the descriptions of the ships, and my FTL tech is described on the beginning of this page.

done....... 8)

Excellent. Welcome to the members of the club of People who Have Bought Stuff From Klonor. (Just so you know, there isn't really a club)

do you have a name for your FTL tech?

Oh quite a shame I go to play a game and miss a chance to bolster my sales. Oh well I can always count on Lady Sirithil to purchace some of my more intersting stuff.

Advanced Gravitic-Time Distortion. (that's the fancy name for my FTL tech)

Hey I Need Help
Some Warmongers Are Going To Try To Kill Me

Hey I Need Help
Some Warmongers Are Going To Try To Kill Me
They are killing you on earth, too bad

Wait, when was that written? I have earth forces that could help. Do you still need help?

Wait, when was that written? I have earth forces that could help. Do you still need help?

I'm Ignoring Them
I Started A War With ISlam Beacuse He Attacked Me
I Nuked Him
He evr Confirmed
So I'm Ignoring Them!

Okay, so, you don't need help?

Okay, so, you don't need help?

Just Standby!

Just so ya know, Klonor, LOA asked Islama to attack him so they could start a war. Then LOA ported 1200 nukes into Islamas territory. And he has to fight, since he knows whats going on. I dont recommend you get involved, Klonor, and besides, were playing present day. Your spaceships really arent allowed to fight us.

Wait, did you start this war? Cause if you did, we can't help you (Article 7)

And I still have many present day forces (I never bothered to sell them when I went space. i still maintain them in ground bases and stuff.)

He asked if Islama would attack him so they could have a war. I dont know if that counts.

Also, isnt it illegal for him to use nukes, if none were used against him? Because the inital attacked used conventional scuds, and only after LOA used nukes did Islama make an attempt to deploy them.

Just so ya know, Klonor, LOA asked Islama to attack him so they could start a war. Then LOA ported 1200 nukes into Islamas territory. And he has to fight, since he knows whats going on. I dont recommend you get involved, Klonor, and besides, were playing present day. Your spaceships really arent allowed to fight us.
Lier

I Aksed Who Did It And He Siad He Did!

Look Here
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61731&highlight=war

Just so ya know, Klonor, LOA asked Islama to attack him so they could start a war. Then LOA ported 1200 nukes into Islamas territory. And he has to fight, since he knows whats going on. I dont recommend you get involved, Klonor, and besides, were playing present day. Your spaceships really arent allowed to fight us.
Lier

I Aksed Who Did It And He Siad He Did!

Klo, since half the nations are ready to kill him right now, i recommend you read the forum first. It is true that LOA asked Islamabad to attack him.

Just so ya know, Klonor, LOA asked Islama to attack him so they could start a war. Then LOA ported 1200 nukes into Islamas territory. And he has to fight, since he knows whats going on. I dont recommend you get involved, Klonor, and besides, were playing present day. Your spaceships really arent allowed to fight us.

Dude.Im not playing present day.I planned on bringing in some Frigates and such.Ions and stuff.

Wait.. if LOA starts a forum saying he was attacked and he wasnt, and Islama takes responsibility, that means Islama started the war? LOA made the forum AND the idea of himself being attacked.

Okay, now I'm confused.

No, LOA and Islama fought yesterday. I fought against LOA. This is the forum where we are declaring war on LOA. This could escalate into a world war. Remember, LOA killed 200,000,000 Islama citizens in revenge for an attack that Islama never launched.

Synopsis: LOA decides itd be fun to make a RP thread of himself being attacked. He makes the thread, without anyone attacking or saying they are attacking. Islama claims responsibility. LOA nukes him 1200 times, killed 2,000,000 citizens. Many nations are outraged, and are declaring war on LOA. LOA maintains that what he did was in self defense.


Edit- that make sense?

Okay, if this war (not the war with islama) was not started by LoA then I, and everybody else in the GA who still has modern tech, am required to help him. i don't really want to (I have almost nothing of a modern army), but I will.

The war with Islama and this war are the same, just as The War of Germany vs Britan and the later America bs Japan are the same.

Klonor.You arnt even a month old.How do you have a space fleet?

I think I have a solution. LoA was planning to completely move to space in a few days. Why don't I simply send a few ships and finish it up a little early. This way I don't have to be in a war I know almost nothing about, LoA doesn't have to get the crap kicked out of him (because I'd be no help and there are like 10 nations against him), and you guys get him off earth.

No, LOA and Islama fought yesterday. I fought against LOA. This is the forum where we are declaring war on LOA. This could escalate into a world war. Remember, LOA killed 200,000,000 Islama citizens in revenge for an attack that Islama never launched.

I Was Attacked
Islam Claimed Responsibility
I Attcked Him With Duds Filled Withj Red Powder
I Played Around And LEft!

Klonor.You arnt even a month old.How do you have a space fleet?

Trailers, that is NOT something you want to get into.

I believe that is acceptable for the most part, however, LOA said only half of his population would be moving to space. We would like LOA in its entirity gone.

Edit- trailors, he was assisted by the GA

We dont want him off earth we want him gone.I dont want him to pester me.I HAPPEN TO BE A SPACE NATION TOO YOU KNOW!

LoA, I gave you a whole planet. Why don't you move to space completely, then we can leave this entire mess behind.

Klonor.You arnt even a month old.How do you have a space fleet?

Trailers, that is NOT something you want to get into.

O.o...And why is that?

What is LOA was simply removed from the GA? wouldnt that make things simpler for everyone?

edit- trailers, please....

We dont want him off earth we want him gone.I dont want him to pester me.I HAPPEN TO BE A SPACE NATION TOO YOU KNOW!

Fine Hows This I Will Be Out of Any Military Stuff For 1 Rlmonth
Pay You 700 Billion And I Leave To Space!

Oh.Moo.

Trailers, if you do keep up on this when he's already in space, then i would have absolutely no qualms blowing the **** out of you. Let him get off earth, and be done with it.

Unfortunatly, LOA 700 billion isnt enough to satisfy 10 nations at your throat, and some of them are space nations.

Klonor, if LOA starts any more unjust wars, would he be removed from the GA? If so, i wouldnt have a problem with his complete exodus to space.

Unfortunatly, LOA 700 billion isnt enough to satisfy 10 nations at your throat, and some of them are space nations.

I Could Fight

I Do Have Support

Form Galactic Alliance Maybe
Allinace
Sniper Country
Elara
Klonor
Jimathon
Mindset MAybe
Xerlox

but once he moves to space, then the entire GA would come screaming down on your throats, and we've got a pretty good space fleet. let him leave earth, and let this whole thing rest.

LOA your in enough trouble already. The GA doesnt have enough troops to protect you now, so i SUGGEST you stop making threats. The attack has been called off FOR NOW, but sopping this many nations from eating you alive is tough work.

but once he moves to space, then the entire GA would come screaming down on your throats, and we've got a pretty good space fleet. let him leave earth, and let this whole thing rest.

We want to know that LOA will never cause trouble with us again. If he starts an unjust war, will he be denied the GAs protection?

LOA your in enough trouble already. The GA doesnt have enough troops to protect you now, so i SUGGEST you stop making threats. The attack has been called off FOR NOW, but sopping this many nations from eating you alive is tough work.


lol aww too bad. I wanted to bomb him.. :(

LOA your in enough trouble already. The GA doesnt have enough troops to protect you now, so i SUGGEST you stop making threats. The attack has been called off FOR NOW, but sopping this many nations from eating you alive is tough work.


lol aww too bad. I wanted to bomb him.. :(

Knowing the LOA, you might yet get your chance.

Okay, how about this. LoA goes to space, you forget what happened, and the GA wont be forced to get in on this and blow the **** out of the space nations that are in on this.

if LoA started an unjust war, we would not help him.

LOA your in enough trouble already. The GA doesnt have enough troops to protect you now, so i SUGGEST you stop making threats. The attack has been called off FOR NOW, but sopping this many nations from eating you alive is tough work.


lol aww too bad. I wanted to bomb him.. :(

Knowing the LOA, you might yet get your chance.


:P

Oh btw, who see's Klonor as such a big threat? :?

Trailers, if you do keep up on this when he's already in space, then i would have absolutely no qualms blowing the **** out of you. Let him get off earth, and be done with it.

-.-

Way to speak to your elder kid but hey.Thats fine.Just as long as he stops doing nukefests.

At what point did you become the one in control here, Klonor? You are trying to protect LOA, not doom him. We can come to a peaceful resolution, but LOA has alot of enemies, and if the GA starts a war to support him, you will lose more credibility then you could stand.

Dictator, hes a member of the biggest alliance out there.

Thanks Klonor

500 Tranports Pickup The Remainig Stuff And Head off With The Space Fleet And The Coloney Ship!

http://www.doga.co.jp/english/gallery/picture/data/fleet.jpg

Look, I don't want to get into a war over this. Let LoA leave Earth, if he does start an unjust war with existing space nations, the GA will not help him. Does that sound okay?

The Lemon Fleet moves in to take temporary control of LOAs old mobile dock, until its fate can be decided.

At what point did you become the one in control here, Klonor? You are trying to protect LOA, not doom him. We can come to a peaceful resolution, but LOA has alot of enemies, and if the GA starts a war to support him, you will lose more credibility then you could stand.

Dictator, hes a member of the biggest alliance out there.


Yes but he's protecting an idiot..lol

Look, I don't want to get into a war over this. Let LoA leave Earth, if he does start an unjust war with existing space nations, the GA will not help him. Does that sound okay?

Done and Done.

And BTW, I am a big fan of the GA.

Would you like to join? The Constitution would make sure that LoA doesn't bother you ever again.

The Lemon Fleet moves in to take temporary control of LOAs old mobile dock, until its fate can be decided.

My Land Their Now Belongs to My Old Puppet And I'll Fight To Keep It OK!
The Two Mobile Docks Will Be Built On My Planet!

fine, but watch your back LOA. Pull another stunt like you did last time and Klonor wont be able to protect you.

bad post, sorry.

Well thats over with.Yay.

Good luck with the GA Klonor.

LoA, we just got past this! Do not start a war now! Let them get your old land, I gave you a freaking planet! Let it go!

Give Me 1 Year To Take All My Stuff Then I'll Give Them The LAnd!

Is that okay with everybody?

Can I Get My Stuff BAck!

um....why does klonor have so much power? Him and jimathon started the GA...

We've managed to get past all this. They're going to let LoA leave Earth and go to his planet, and we don't have to get into a war.

And I have so much power because I am so very great!

shaddup you know you serve under me :D jk

Don't make me go Colossal on your heiney!

Well that was close.

bump


www.geocities.com/ns_galactic_alliance/index.html

just so you dont have to navigate through the pages

whats happining?

IM trying to get rid of spamasoar2...he has sent my 12 telegrams saying

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go talk to melk

i did, we succesfully banned him the first time, but hes on 56k and doenst have an IP so hes just making more and more...

Sorry, I was gone for a while.
IH, LoA, grow up. LoA didn't mean to tread on your tows, so let it go. And I think I'm banned to, it keeps saying that i don't have authorization.

Josephland, we are still accepting members, you are welcome to join. Have you read and agree to the constitution?
Where would I find the constitution?

The constitution is on page 1 of this thread. The GA isn't merely an Alliance, but a type of loose government. if you obey the rules, you're fine (and you get lots of nifty technology out of it)

Everything sounds good. But I must say that I have only one starship at this time. Will this cause any problems?

No problems at all. Welcome aboard! I'll add you to the roster.

Just telegram any instructions. Good to be here.

There are no real instructions. The GA website is here http://www.geocities.com/ns_galactic_alliance/index.html

Just follow the Articles in the constitution, and you'll do fine.

This thread has fallen way to far behind. BUMP-a-rama!

Who got Exed?

*takes another peek into the thread*

I'm not in the GA, but if anyone still needs a stop-gap measure until they can aquior and retrofit independent FTL drives, I can put a Mobile Displacer Station in your system; most can accept craft under 1km in legnth and 750m in width, and the 'jump' is instantanious with no distance limits save power(longer range and more mass and volume = more power needed).

The service would be provided as a courtisy, so the only cost would be mass to fuel the platform's conversion plants.

We would, however, have to station a 36km long Valorian-class battleship with it, as well as it's compliment of support craft; the stations aren't that expensive, but the technology's strategic implications are priceless.



We would also like to examin the possibility of a Mutual Deffence Treaty; we're primarily an Earth-bound nation, and not willing to comply with certain aspects of the GA charter, but that doesn't mean we can't look into forming and formalising other relations.

I have no need for such a platform, but You show a great deal of kindness.

Note closing down my shipyard.

*takes another peek into the thread*

I'm not in the GA, but if anyone still needs a stop-gap measure until they can aquior and retrofit independent FTL drives, I can put a Mobile Displacer Station in your system; most can accept craft under 1km in legnth and 750m in width, and the 'jump' is instantanious with no distance limits save power(longer range and more mass and volume = more power needed).

The service would be provided as a courtisy, so the only cost would be mass to fuel the platform's conversion plants.

We would, however, have to station a 36km long Valorian-class battleship with it, as well as it's compliment of support craft; the stations aren't that expensive, but the technology's strategic implications are priceless.



We would also like to examin the possibility of a Mutual Deffence Treaty; we're primarily an Earth-bound nation, and not willing to comply with certain aspects of the GA charter, but that doesn't mean we can't look into forming and formalising other relations.

Interesting - would it be possible for it to be fuelled by, I don't know, a neutron star?? :idea:

*takes another peek into the thread*

I'm not in the GA, but if anyone still needs a stop-gap measure until they can aquior and retrofit independent FTL drives, I can put a Mobile Displacer Station in your system; most can accept craft under 1km in legnth and 750m in width, and the 'jump' is instantanious with no distance limits save power(longer range and more mass and volume = more power needed).

The service would be provided as a courtisy, so the only cost would be mass to fuel the platform's conversion plants.

We would, however, have to station a 36km long Valorian-class battleship with it, as well as it's compliment of support craft; the stations aren't that expensive, but the technology's strategic implications are priceless.



We would also like to examin the possibility of a Mutual Deffence Treaty; we're primarily an Earth-bound nation, and not willing to comply with certain aspects of the GA charter, but that doesn't mean we can't look into forming and formalising other relations.

Interesting - would it be possible for it to be fuelled by, I don't know, a neutron star?? :idea:

It can eat pretty much any matter; fuel mass is conpressed into neutronium befor injection into the core, and is also usually stored as such to save volume.

I have no need for such a platform, but You show a great deal of kindness.

Note closing down my shipyard. Your closing down the shipyard? Why?

Klonor,I have a younger puppet that is highly space oriented.

Could he join?

Can I join?

:::> Transmission Begin

To: Klonor
From: Prime Pr'Varia Dancos

Message Body:
We understand that before the destruction of our capital system, Midna Solaris, we enjoyed good relations. Now, the Federal Reformed Republic of The Mindset, and I as its newly elected Prime, wish to join this alliance.

We took heavy losses with the destruction of Midna Solaris, losing over half our fleet. We are rebuilding and developing new ships, some of which we will share technology with - Should we be granted admission to the GA. As many people know, The Mindset does not trade technology easily.

Therefore, we await your aknowledgement.

Prime Pr'Varia Dancos.

<::: End Transmission

http://mindset.illspirit.co.uk/leader2.jpg

:::> Transmission Begin

To: Klonor
From: Prime Pr'Varia Dancos

Message Body:
We understand that before the destruction of our capital system, Midna Solaris, we enjoyed good relations. Now, the Federal Reformed Republic of The Mindset, and I as its newly elected Prime, wish to join this alliance.

We took heavy losses with the destruction of Midna Solaris, losing over half our fleet. We are rebuilding and developing new ships, some of which we will share technology with - Should we be granted admission to the GA. As many people know, The Mindset does not trade technology easily.

Therefore, we await your aknowledgement.

Prime Pr'Varia Dancos.

<::: End Transmission

http://mindset.illspirit.co.uk/leader2.jpg Join, just read and agree to the articals. What happened to your space map thread?

Can I join? Just read and agree to the articals.

Klonor,I have a younger puppet that is highly space oriented.

Could he join? All those who want to join must read and agree to the articals.

Can I join the Galactic Alliance?

Can I join the Galactic Alliance? Have you read and agreed to the articals?

Klonor,I have a younger puppet that is highly space oriented.

Could he join? All those who want to join must read and agree to the articals.

Yep,read them,they seem reasonable.

Klonor,I have a younger puppet that is highly space oriented.

Could he join? All those who want to join must read and agree to the articals.

Yep,read them,they seem reasonable. GOod i shall contact Konor to tell him of the new member.

Klonor,I have a younger puppet that is highly space oriented.

Could he join? All those who want to join must read and agree to the articals.

Yep,read them,they seem reasonable. GOod i shall contact Konor to tell him of the new member.

wait,wait.Im not having TRAILERS join.Its me puppet.lemme get him.

Behold,Trailers mighty puppet.

:P

Behold,Trailers mighty puppet.

:P Ooopps. I'll need to tell him about that.

:::> Transmission Begin

To: Klonor
From: Prime Pr'Varia Dancos

Message Body:
We understand that before the destruction of our capital system, Midna Solaris, we enjoyed good relations. Now, the Federal Reformed Republic of The Mindset, and I as its newly elected Prime, wish to join this alliance.

We took heavy losses with the destruction of Midna Solaris, losing over half our fleet. We are rebuilding and developing new ships, some of which we will share technology with - Should we be granted admission to the GA. As many people know, The Mindset does not trade technology easily.

Therefore, we await your aknowledgement.

Prime Pr'Varia Dancos.

<::: End Transmission

Join, just read and agree to the articals. What happened to your space map thread?

It died, it simply got too complex for me to handle. Then, my homeworld was blown up in a freak accident and my empire was almost destroyed.

:::> Transmission Begin

To: Klonor
From: Prime Pr'Varia Dancos

Message Body:
We understand that before the destruction of our capital system, Midna Solaris, we enjoyed good relations. Now, the Federal Reformed Republic of The Mindset, and I as its newly elected Prime, wish to join this alliance.

We took heavy losses with the destruction of Midna Solaris, losing over half our fleet. We are rebuilding and developing new ships, some of which we will share technology with - Should we be granted admission to the GA. As many people know, The Mindset does not trade technology easily.

Therefore, we await your aknowledgement.

Prime Pr'Varia Dancos.

<::: End Transmission

Join, just read and agree to the articals. What happened to your space map thread?

It died, it simply got too complex for me to handle. Then, my homeworld was blown up in a freak accident and my empire was almost destroyed. Whoa. Thats a story your gonna have to tell me. About the articals, did you read and agree to them?

Behold,Trailers mighty puppet.

:P Ooopps. I'll need to tell him about that.

Yaaaay..

Uhh..do we need to move random space vessels into GA controlled space to beef up defenses?

Behold,Trailers mighty puppet.

:P Ooopps. I'll need to tell him about that.

Yaaaay..

Uhh..do we need to move random space vessels into GA controlled space to beef up defenses? Do you want to?

Our best political advisors and lawyers have read the entry requirements - and subseqently withdraw our application due to these points:

Article 3:
Any technological developments or creations from before joining the Alliance is strict property of its creator, shared only at his/her wishes.
The Mindsets technology is its own, and its own it shall remain.

Article 4:
Any technological developments or creations from after joining the Alliance are shared with all. Any constructions belong to the Alliance.
The Mindsets ships are its own, and its own they shall remain.

Article 5:
Any warship constructed using technology obtained from other members after joining the Alliance is an Alliance ship, being under the command of all members. It shall be crewed by people from all members, and subject only to the orders of the Alliance.
Ships manufactured by The Mindset are not authorised for sale or trade under Mindsettian law.

Article 6:
All members must give all other members free passage and trade to their systems.
We allow free passage to all except war vessels, unless they are of a direct ally.

Article 7:
If a member is in trouble, not caused by his/her doing, all other members are required to pledge any support they can.
We do not wage war lightly.

Article 8:
The Alliance may only embark on a course of action after it has been approved by all members.
We shall not surrender our military decisions to another body not Mindsettian related.

Sorry, but thank you anyway.

Prime Pr'Varia Dancos.

Behold,Trailers mighty puppet.

:P Ooopps. I'll need to tell him about that.

Yaaaay..

Uhh..do we need to move random space vessels into GA controlled space to beef up defenses? Do you want to?

well,this nation is supposed to be in-space only,no land to protect,so my fleet has nothing to do but guard Colony ships.If i could move the some of the Colony,some warships and a Carrier into the GA space it would be very helpful.

Okay ( I go to sleep for an hour and we already have a person join, then resign).

United Hiigarans, Welcome! No, you do not ned to move any ships into GA space. What we want is for the GA to be it's own thing, not dependant upon others. it has it's own military. If you want you can donate some ships to it, but it has enough power that you only need to watch out for your space. We've got the GA as a whole covered.

Mindset:

Article 3 says that Your technology is traded only at your wishes (That means you don't have to share it)

Article 4 Doesn't have anything to do with ships.

Article 5 Is in regards to ships that have been designed using GA technology. Such as if you use a Jimathon Ministar engine, or a Klonor Beam Cannon. Those ships are GA ships. If you design them yourself, they're yours.

Article 6 Everybody here is a direct ally.

Article 7 Neither do we. If you will kindly read a page or two before this page you will see where a member who shall remain nameless *COUGH Land of Ages *COUGH* almost started a war about 10 other nations. I managed to avoid the war, and even got a few new members into the Alliance. We work on peace, Article 7 is only if some warmongering attacks somebody for absolutely no reason.

Article 8 It says "Only if approved by allmembers (That's you, too!)

Does anybody else besides United Hiigarans agree to the constitution?

*Crickets chirp.*

DIE YOU CRICKETS DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*poison gas*

*LOTS of poison gas*

Article 4 is still not acceptable. It claims we have to share our technology after joining the alliance, should we invent more. Since we contantly invent, this is not acceptable. The ships was about the 'constructions' section - our ships are not alliance ships, no matter when they were built.

Article 8 also remains unacceptable. Even if we have input, we could be overruled.

*Blinkblink.*It says that you HAVE to share Tech???

*Cradles Moondust nukes in arms protectively.*

:shock:

Rigggght.

Can I join? Just read and agree to the articals.

Yeah, I agree and stuff. 8) So I can join?

Mindset, you only give us the plans, we build the ships (The GA has it's own shipyards).

And if you won't share technology that you developed after you joined the Alliance, well, then I'm sorry, but it looks like this won't happen. Farewell, and maybe someday you'll reconsider.

Randomness and Anime, you're in!

Trailers, it's only technology that you developed after you joined the Alliance. (I thought you read the constitution)

Article 3:
Any technological developments or creations from before joining the Alliance is strict property of its creator, shared only at his/her wishes.
Meaning: Anything your nation invented before joining this alliance is your own tech, and you only have to share it if you want to.

Article 4:
Any technological developments or creations from after joining the Alliance are shared with all. Any constructions belong to the Alliance.
Meaning: ALL technology you develop AFTER joining the alliance BELONGS to the alliance, regardless of wether or not you want to share. Also, ALL things you construct or manufacture - ships, space stations etc., ALL BELONG to the alliance.

This is why I refuse to agree.

COOL!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (I'm happy) THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!

Mindset, you only give us the plans, we build the ships (The GA has it's own shipyards).

We wouldn't give plans.

Article 4:
ALL things you construct or manufacture - ships, space stations etc., ALL BELONG to the alliance.


I'm sorry, you mis-understood. What is said is that any constructions of the new technology (such as if you make the new engine, or the new weapon, or the new T.V.) are GA property, not every construction you make, only the new tech.

But, since you wont share the tech, this doesn't matter. farewell.

COOL!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (I'm happy) THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!THANK YOU!!!

Are you glad you joined?

Yeah, I'm happy i joined. ^_^

Hey, uh, The Mindset? You could just have your inventor people go back in time and invent stuff before you joined, so you have everything you ever invented, and repeat the process over and over, but that would be sort of going out of the rules. (I won't do that, because well, I can't remember anything I've invented so far.... If I've invented anything.....?????)

Time travel backwards is not possible. Time travel forwards is, however.

You can't travel backwards? then--- Oh, wait. i know: Time Paradoxes. the bain of everytime traveler.

Is there any space based region I could join?

Our empire is a paradox - for you cannot view our region... We are not easily found.

The GA isn't a space-based region, and we don't know of any, but if you find one ask them to join.

I know the GA isn't a reigion, I was just wondering if you knew of any.

The GA isn't a space-based region, and we don't know of any, but if you find one ask them to join.

We will reconsider if the following small change is made to the constitution:

Article 4:
Any technological developments or creations from after joining the Alliance are shared with any nation within the alliance that is older than yourself. Any constructions, except those that you do not wish to donate, belong to the Alliance.

If the alteration cannot be met, then i'm afriad we will never join.

i read. I know you don't know of any, I was just re stating my question.

We will reconsider if the following small change is made to the constitution:

Article 4:
Any technological developments or creations from after joining the Alliance are shared with any nation within the alliance that is older than yourself. Any constructions, except those that you do not wish to donate, belong to the Alliance.

If the alteration cannot be met, then i'm afriad we will never join.

I'm sorry, but no. The entire purpose of the Alliance is to have free tech for all members. I myself am one of the youngest here. (Only about 3 weeks old). I do not believe that age should be a factor here. We would like to have you as a member, but we cannot make these changes. And if you get to chose what you donate, you could donate nothing, yet still get all the tech other people donate.

Very well, We shall no longer consider this alliance. We hope that this will not discourage diplomatic relations between members and Ourself.

Small, young nations with technology that was un-wantedly shared by a much older, wiser nation, that spent trillions and trillions of dollars and decades on research - this is not acceptable to our practises, and any 3 week old nation that claims to have technology or resources because of this alliance will simply be ignored, should it be used against us.

Prime Pr'Varia Dancos.

May the Alliance at least consider you an ally?

Of course.

Excellent. Feel free to call upon us if you are in need.

Give me a B!
Give me a U!
Give me a....

Ah screw it.

Just BUMP.

Can I join the Galactic Alliance? Have you read and agreed to the articals?


Yup.

Excellent! Welcome to the Galactic Alliance! There is a member list on the first page, as well as the web-site address

*pokes*

*points to last post here, a few pages back and thusfar unanswered*

So'd you folks be interested in a mutual deffence treaty?

Sorry, I seem to have missed that post. Yes, we'd love to have a mutual defence treaty.

Okay, Intergalactic Hell has left the Alliance. I don't see why, but I have removed him from the roster.

Does anyone have any gravity beam technology?

Klonor..... any chance of buying production rights to your FTL tech??????...... so i don't have to buy a new ship everytime

You don't have to, I've donated it to the Alliance. You already have the tech.

oh.....ok..... :lol:

What about gravity beam tech..... do you know where I can get that?

I'll soon be releasing some new spacecraft..... prob not as advanced as some of the stuff you guys have...... but it's still good. (I hope)

Dude, why don't you wait till we get off the Autumn before you start with that.

my stuff won't be released for a while...... not until i have all the tech to outfit them...... and when my site gets up.

Sorry, I seem to have missed that post. Yes, we'd love to have a mutual defence treaty.

Alright; any conditions in mind, or just the usual 'Direct military assistance against unprovoked attacks' with the typical volentary option of assistance in any other conflict or capasity at your own discression?

Works for me.

So, help in any just war?

Have't we been talking of ammending article 4?

And my ship yards will no longer be selling war ships we will still have Non com ships and mining craft.

Works for me.

So, help in any just war?


You mean do i need help?

Not really, at the moment; some stuff with a few other nations dirtside might flare up, but I've already got enough in the field to kill the oposition if it comes to that. 'Need Brains to Live' thread, if you'd like to take a looksee.

I was saying that's what our situation was. I wasn't actually asking if you needed any, but it's good to know that you aren't in any current need.

Ah.

Basicly, yeah, tho I'd like it clear that mutual defence is manditory, so long as the agressor wasn't militarily provoked. Otherwise rumors and propaganda could delay an ally's entry into a war by 'muddying the waters', as it were, potentialy with disasterous consiquences.

I know.

Care to buy anything from my space store? Excellent quality goods, and not to extravagant prices. Go here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081

The first Alliance military base is constructed.

all GA members are welcome to drop in on my new station orbiting Neptune.

Also....... is there are certain thread about the jump nodes and where they are?

Are you serious? You haven't seen the Mindset jump-node thread? Wow, that was like the biggest thread on here for a week. I'll post a link.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56538

Due to a recent Mindset tragedy there will be no further updates to that particular thread.

thanks....... what exactly happened to mindset?

That's a different thread (Horrible accident, home system destroyed, etc.)

now..... about that gravity beam tech......

I can do a field but no beams my Workers use them to pull astroides in to place. As do my salvage/cargo tugs.

What i'm looking for is gravity tech that allows me to grab stuff and pull it into my ship/station. Or just hold something in place....

Your welcom to send a reserch team to arrora shipyards to take a look at some of my cargo tugs in operation they will be moving the last war ships to be built over to the storage yards to wait for there respictive nations to pick them up. The whole operation should take servrial days.

ok...... I'll send em over.......

I'm also looking into STL tech.....

STL? Slowere then light? In system drives? I have my SSFT drives. Not terably fast tho.

STL... I think that comes standard with most ships, no?

For the most part. He might have ment FTL, or posably better STL

some kind of fast propulsion system for fighters........

Well, we can hand over our tractor beam tech for the benefit of the alliance.

Well, we can hand over our tractor beam tech for the benefit of the alliance.

thanks....... if there is anything you need just ask........

To be placed on the member list on the website would be nice. Also, I need the strongest person here to go bombard Whispering Voices.

i can't help you..... if you're looking for a strong military space nation..... i'm still constructing me fleet....... :oops:

Any form of attack will do. Most of his military is menacing me, and he has very little space tech anyway.

I would lve to help with the bombardment but that would go aganced the alliance charter, and as I said I have SSFT(self stutaning fusion torch) drives all my craft use them they dont need tefuling untill you turn them off. There speed depends on the mass you want to move.

i just want high speed for fighters.....

*Thinks about the TIE interceptors...*

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have you read the terms on the 1st page?

666 would like to offer its services to the alliance, should the need ever arise.

why don't you just join?

ok can i?

OOC: that was my way of joining because its like a pledge of commitment, and doesn't someone have to say that i am in it?

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You are in, 666, provided you nuke Whispering Voices.

lol........ :lol: :lol: :lol:

Worth a shot, isn't it guv?

I've a mutual deffence agreement with the GA, and might be willing to help; what's the problem? There a thread you can point to?

You are in, 666, provided you nuke Whispering Voices.

*Launches two nukes at wispering voices...*

The GA isn't a space-based region, and we don't know of any, but if you find one ask them to join.

I've made my region to be a space-based region (Metallake Region) - and I've already joined :wink:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59727&start=200

But forget Whispering Voices, it's now Austin Ontis.

ok...... I'll send em over.......

I'm also looking into STL tech.....

We're developing something like that now - we're looking into ISFTL / ISSOL Drive ( IS = in-system, SOL = speed of light, instead of FTL - cause FTL in-system may be hard/impossible due to the high-gravity wells)

Will post again soon :wink:

i just want high speed for fighters.....

Posting again alread :wink: - my Darts are fairly high speed (hence the name :roll: ) - chat to me if your interested

just looking for a bit of info....... i want to have some technology to call my own.....

Then pull out your Techno bable bible and make somthing up.

i just want high speed for fighters.....

Posting again alread :wink: - my Darts are fairly high speed (hence the name :roll: ) - chat to me if your interested

In space, thre is really no maximum speed, but the real figure should be accelleration. Like my Super Acolyte IIs and IIIs, they are big and pretty massive as fighters go, so they have a reasonably slow acclelleration, etc. Not as slow as would usually be, on account of the extra-powerful drives that we upgraded them with. The Dark Nebula interceptor that me and Somtaaw use (I think) is very light and non-massive, so it has a high accelleration. a=(vf-vo)/t Thoughts on FTL, we use a hyperspace drive that uses a big ol' quantum wavefront to bump the ship out of normal (4-d) space, and into 3-d space, allowing instantaneous travel anywhere while never actually exceeding the speed of light.

All my establishments are now open to Alliance members.

My new space station "Spyglass" is now open to everyone. It's located in the orbit of Neptune.

A corvette is going htere now with many archive copies.

Just an FYI I am still in the ship building indistry I just only sell Non com and mining craft. And yes Me and LLr do use a lot of the same craft but some of them are under difrent names.

Just an FYI I am still in the ship building indistry I just only sell Non com and mining craft. And yes Me and LLr do use a lot of the same craft but some of them are under difrent names.

I have made a lot of modifications to mine also.

True.

Here's some stuff for your Alliance Blueprints.

http://screens.relicnews.com/cataclysm/images/Bentusi_Advanced_001.jpg

The super Acolyte I, II, and III. (A basic fighter frame, with regular nuclear blasters and/or plasma cannons, heavy plasma fusion powerplant, escape pod, etc.) The Super Acolyte has won a reputation as one of the tougher space fighters out there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1325000/images/_1326657_hitch2.150.jpg

The Spacecar Mk.1. An excellent personal/ you and friend transport vehicle. Good for seeing the sights as well.

Propulsion tech-

http://www.ornl.gov/ORNLReview/rev25-34/07828-86.jpg

Frigate class high accelleration plasma fusion reactor. Used on the Olaf Palme class patrol frigates.

http://www.nesea.org/energy/info/fuelcell.jpg

A 6 mw fuel cell unit. For use on space stations, and for backup power on capital class ships.

I see some one has found a Hichhickers Guide website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/gallery/index.shtml

666 The Heritic State, If you agree to the constitution you're in. Arbra, I'm sure we can work out any problems that you have with the constitution, but, if not, we would be glad to make an alliance.

mwhahahahahahahahahaha im back for one day thanks to my power back on. but tomorrow i leave untilll next staurday so dont start any wars without me now.

Falling a bit behind, aren't we. I know! LUMP! No, that's not it. RUMP! No, that's wrong to. Fump, Jump, Dump, Qump. No. Damnit, what is that word? Vump? Zump? Oh, who cares? Bump

bump. Hey Klonor, did you see my tech additions? Do you like?

What tech additions? Where?

i just want high speed for fighters.....

Posting again alread :wink: - my Darts are fairly high speed (hence the name :roll: ) - chat to me if your interested

In space, thre is really no maximum speed, but the real figure should be accelleration. Like my Super Acolyte IIs and IIIs, they are big and pretty massive as fighters go, so they have a reasonably slow acclelleration, etc. Not as slow as would usually be, on account of the extra-powerful drives that we upgraded them with. The Dark Nebula interceptor that me and Somtaaw use (I think) is very light and non-massive, so it has a high accelleration. a=(vf-vo)/t Thoughts on FTL, we use a hyperspace drive that uses a big ol' quantum wavefront to bump the ship out of normal (4-d) space, and into 3-d space, allowing instantaneous travel anywhere while never actually exceeding the speed of light.

instantaneous travel is considered a godmod by many nations, including myself. I mean, with it you could be attacked at a remote outpost and have your entire fleet there in no time. No, its a godmod imho.

Here's some stuff for your Alliance Blueprints.

http://screens.relicnews.com/cataclysm/images/Bentusi_Advanced_001.jpg

The super Acolyte I, II, and III. (A basic fighter frame, with regular nuclear blasters and/or plasma cannons, heavy plasma fusion powerplant, escape pod, etc.) The Super Acolyte has won a reputation as one of the tougher space fighters out there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1325000/images/_1326657_hitch2.150.jpg

The Spacecar Mk.1. An excellent personal/ you and friend transport vehicle. Good for seeing the sights as well.

Propulsion tech-

http://www.ornl.gov/ORNLReview/rev25-34/07828-86.jpg

Frigate class high accelleration plasma fusion reactor. Used on the Olaf Palme class patrol frigates.

http://www.nesea.org/energy/info/fuelcell.jpg

A 6 mw fuel cell unit. For use on space stations, and for backup power on capital class ships.

Ok. So no instantaneous travel. Just very fast travel to points within 500 lightyears of the ship's position. Out farther, and travel time becomes far greater. (It took our fastest ship 28 years to reach the outer rim of the galaxy from the Oort cloud.) (Ok, so I know absolutely nothing about physics.)

You'll have to talk to Pedaphiliac. he runs the web-site, and that's where we list our tech. but it looks nice (Of course, my tech could kick it's ass)

You'll have to talk to Pedaphiliac. he runs the web-site, and that's where we list our tech. but it looks nice (Of course, my tech could kick it's ass)

Don't start. Don't think I'm not grounding my tech. I don't want to be called a godmodder any more than necessary.

quit bragging and just sell it to him to he can make it better :lol: that and my new carrier can own your little super ship. if its ever done that is.

What? Who are you talking to right now?

Hey! The Super Acolyte III is a real good fighter. I thought its goodness was already established. (Not the best, but up there.)

I didn't say it wasn't good. Did somebody else say that?

I didn't say it wasn't good. Did somebody else say that?

Oh come on! That's all I see in most fleet review threads. Its like little five year olds playing with their transformers.

"No, my ships are better!"
"No, mine could blow yours to pieces!"
"Eeeee! Godmodder!"

Dude, I wasn't serious. I say that to everybody whenever they reveal a new ships, even if they're a Jan. nation. I don't actually mean it.

Dude, I wasn't serious. I say that to everybody whenever they reveal a new ships, even if they're a Jan. nation. I don't actually mean it.

Good to hear. (Yours could really blow most of mine away, except for mabye, in one-on one, a Kip Thorne or Peristroyka could hold its own)

Would you care to buy any of mine? if so, the address is http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081

You get a major GA discount

well, since my largest ship is a battlecruiser, I think I will. (Peristroyka class explained in my fleet review. Fast and agile, high firepower, but low armor protection.) Didn't I buy some of your orions? They serve me well.

could you post a link to your fleet, so I have some clue what you're talking about?

I will buy 10 Demios corvettes, and 30 Fernis frigates.

Could you post your order on that thread pleas? it just makes it a lot easier for me to reference it in the future. Thanks.

could you post a link to your fleet, so I have some clue what you're talking about?


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59595

Ah, thanks.

Your ships look nice (And it seems that you did buy some Orions)

bump for stupidness

ahh i havent seen this thread since page 58...theres no way im reading all of that...so whats happenin guys?

me havent seen it since before that i think. stupid ohio and shorting out my power. NUKE OHIO. anyways wahts happenign before i go away?

I should like to anounce that I will be making the plans of the Najic heavy defence fighter/bomber avable to all GA member.

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/images/concept_shipdesign.jpg

It's design has been left open enough to be outfitted with most GA members weapon tech.

It has been fitted with the newest forth generation SSFT drives which has the powere rating nearing that of a frigate classed ship,it is also fitted with our first generation short hop hyperdrives which is good for 6 100,000 km jumps befor the powere shunts must be replaced.

Capabile of atmospheric flight landing and take offs with lowere wings in the locked out possion.
Cost: 150 RU's
Build Time: 30 days
Maneuverability: High
Acceleration: 800 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 1000 m/s^2
Coverage: 48%
Mass: 180 tons

Somtaaw model weapons
2 rail drivers
1 plasma bomb launcher
1 underside turret Pulsar cannon.
6 missile mounts
1 torpiedo mount

BUMP NESS

I'll Buy 200 of them! :D

I will buy 300

400 for me!!!! They will replace the Dark Nebula.

Now for something totally different:

http://www.animal-lib.org.au/interviews/kim/rats.jpg

And now for something totally different from what was totally different.

http://screens.relicnews.com/cataclysm/images/Bentusi_Advanced_001.jpg

The Super Acolyte IV !!!!!1 (Used in limited numbers by LRR, soon to be retired and replaced by the Najid)

(Heavy fighter, good for slamming your foes into the wall with awesome firepower. We suggest a combo of Somtaaw's for dogfights and ours for anti-capitol ship power)

Mass- 160t
Length- 15m
Height- 7m
Width- 20m
Acclelleration- 5000m/s (Don't run into anything)

Armerment- 1x Heavy Nuclear Blaster (Centerline) (Deliver the energy equivalent of a Solar Flare on the target per shot, slow rate of fire makes for Winglet Torpedo Mount
1x Swivel mounted Railgun (Gives Super Acolyte some self-defense against other fighters)

Powerplant-
2x Corvette Drive (3tw power output {I'm no electrical engineer so if this is a bad figure tell me}) The big powerplant is needed to power the heavier nuclear blasters, unlike the origional rapid-fire ones on the I and II, which were primarily dogfighting craft with little anti-caps capability.

Crew- 2 (pilot, weapons officer)

Cost: 250 RUs

S. Acolyte I intermediate/advanced trainer (Used by LRR)

Length- 10m
Height- 5m
Width- 15m
Mass- 130t
Accelleration- 2,500m/s (A slower accelleration for those trainee pilots)

Armarment-
2x Light Railguns
1x centerline missile pod mount

Powerplant- 1x Standard fighter drive (.5tw output for those trainee pilots)
Cost: 100 RUs

Crew-2 (Instructor and Trainee)

S. Acolyte II Light Fighter (Best for fighter-fighter skirmishes, has dominating firepower in such an engagement. Very light and fast, best to avoid anti-fighter ships, though)
(Used by LRR)
Length- 10m
Height- 5m
Width- 15m
Mass- 100t
Accelleration- 2,500m/s

Armament: 2x Light Nuclear blasters (Rapid fire, excellent for dogfighting)
1x Centerline Plasma Bomb launcher

Crew- 1 (Pilot)

Powerplant: 1x Corvette class drive (1tw power output)
Cost: 100RUs

S. Acolyte III Medium Bomber (Replaced by the IV in LRR)
Length- 10m
Height- 5m
Width- 15m
Mass- 100t
Accelleration- 1,500m/s

Armerment: 4x Plasma bomb launchers

Powerplant: 1x Corvette class drive (1.2tw power output)
Cost: 230RUs

Make that 1000, Somtaaw, plus prod rights. (Replacing losses, spare parts, etc.)

Ped, we have a whole bunch of new Allies and members, it'd be great if you got them on the web-site.

Note: My ships can be put under the alliance blueprints

Some weapons tech:

The Nuclear Blaster is a directed radiation weapon, which can (In the case of the larger and more unwieldy ones) bring the firepower of a small solar flare upon the hull of an enemy capital ship. These weapons, when used in large groups, can bring down heavy capitol ships in a matter of minutes. Smaller ones, which have a rate of fire about 3/4 that of the slower railguns, are very useful anti-fighter weapons, and take only a single shot to blow away most average-sized fighters. The radiation particles are "Doped" to decay extra quickly, so maximum iffectiveness is at close range with the large ones. Anti-fighter blasters are comparable to most good quality railguns in range. They are the primary armament of all LRR ships.

bump

c'est un bump

Forget the bump, why has the land you just sold me been deleted? it says Omsk no longer exists, I want an explanation!

Forget the bump, why has the land you just sold me been deleted? it says Omsk no longer exists, I want an explanation!

I explained it on the auction thread. If you don't want it, your money will be sent back, plus an extra 6 billion for good measure.