NationStates Jolt Archive

For those of you new Space Nations, life can be tough. If you're just emerging now all the good territory is taken, and there are lots of big people out there who can push you around. For the old guys there are lots of competitions, territory claimed by two nations, endless wars, and trade stifling. Well, we are here to propose an end to this. A Galactic Alliance, a governmental body that will help smooth out the inter-stellar pathways, and help the new guys along. Unlike the U.N. on Earth, the Galactic Alliance will not rely on the powers of it's member nations to get things done. it will have it's own army, and it will have it's own trade fleets, repair depots, and everything else. it is not here to rule you, but to help you. All nations are welcome, and we have a loose constitution to help smooth out the differences between member nations. If you have read, and accept the constitution, you're in.

Galactic Alliance

Article 1:
Each member must adhere to Alliance laws and mandates.

Article 2:
Each member maintains control over their territory, as long as it does not conflict with Article 1.

Article 3:
Any technological developments or creations from before joining the Alliance is strict property of its creator, shared only at his/her wishes.

Article 4:
Any technological developments or creations from after joining the Alliance are shared with all.

Article 5:
Any warship constructed using technology obtained from the Alliance is an Alliance ship, being under the command of all members. It shall be crewed by people from all members, and subject only to the orders of the Alliance.

Article 6:
All members must give all other members free passage and trade to their systems.

Article 7:
If a member is in trouble, not caused by his/her doing, all other members are required to pledge any support they can.

Article 8:
The Alliance may only embark on a course of action after it has been approved by all members.

Article 9:
No one in the Alliance may cause harm to another member, unless there is just cause, upon which they will be expelled from the Alliance.

Article 10:
Any member may propose a change to the Articles, and may propose a new law at any time. These shall come into effect immediately upon the ratification by all member nations.

I joined the hair club for men...I mean galactic alliance and in just 2 days you could see visable results.

Current members are:
Klonor
Jimathon
Emperor Joe
Comdidia
Erucolindin
StarForge
Lenishir
Lands of Ages
Pedaphiliac
Malorian
Unreal Soldiers
Kormanthor
Valion
Eastern Illinois
keyshona
The Moon Seperatists
Sovietia
Roania
Somtaaw
Assington
Torakan
Josephland
United Hiigarans
Randomness and Anime
Lunatic Retard Robots
Benderland
Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah
Lost Colonies
Intergalactic Hell
Hamster Town
Arbra
Capsule Corporation
Rodriquezland
Trailers
VirginIncursion
Yoda haters
Scandavian States
Marshall Junior High
Bobaria
Olympus Coliseum
Pilon
Technomages
UFP
Nokomis Vale
Adornia
Kekko Space Colonies
Brotherhood of Kane
Dontgonearthere
Aust
Vi2o

More are being contacted as we speak, and any who read this are welcome to apply.


The Galactic Alliance currently owns the prodcution rights to the:
Aurora class Command Ship
Hecate class Destroyer
Hatshepsut class Destroyer
Obsidian Ion Stream Frigate
Vampire BioChem Bombardment Frigates
Najic heavy defence fighter/bomber

If you need more info, the web-site is http://www.geocities.com/ns_galactic_alliance/index.html

For the specs and pictures of all GA owned ships please go to this thread

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67238

The Galactic Cartography Administration's review of stellar-systems can be found here. Post the name of your system and the GCA will publish the details of its annual report.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66931

I have another nation, Whiskey Outpost, who has been looking for a space-based region. I'd love to apply.

I have another nation, Whiskey Outpost, who has been looking for a space-based region. I'd love to apply.

we're not a region, just an alliance.

Joe joined but has a problem with the tech thing.

What's the problem¿ He doesn't want to give up his technology¿ Tell him that in return he gets the technology from many other nations.

ok, but edit the member list anyways.

ill join if you people dont mind

ill jion if you people dont mind

We don't, welcome. What can you contribute to our alliance?

Techs and diplomants will arrive as soon as reps and tech from you arrive at Alliance HQ.

I have another nation, Whiskey Outpost, who has been looking for a space-based region. I'd love to apply.

we're not a region, just an alliance.

...

Damnit.

Welcome aboard¿ Have you read, and understand the constitution¿

I have another nation, Whiskey Outpost, who has been looking for a space-based region. I'd love to apply.

we're not a region, just an alliance.

...

Damnit.

still want to join, you could just go to Kloners region or something.

We are interested in what this Alliance has to offer.
Count us in.

Aldonis Eleni
Prime Minister and Head of Council for the Dominion of Erucolindin
The Dominion of Erucolindin, Central Continent, Feranar, The Avoir System

Excellent. Welcome aboard.

We are interested in what this Alliance has to offer.
Count us in.

Aldonis Eleni
Prime Minister and Head of Council for the Colony of Erucolindin
The Dominion of Erucolindin, Central Continent, Feranar, The Avoir System

Do you understand the bylays and rules set forth by our constitution and swear to uphold them. (OOC: just a formality, welcome!)

well tech wise i can offer hydrogen anti matter engines. but most upgrades to my space ships are still in devolpment and research but i can release those in a few years (about 3 rl days.) and i have some maps from recent explorations. (just taking me a while to find them)

You don't need to buy your way in. You just share what you have. Any technology that you developed before you joined the Alliance is yours, as per Article 3, it's only technology that you make afterwards that you are required to share. (Article 4)

well tech wise i can offer hydrogen anti matter engines. but most upgrades to my space ships are still in devolpment and research but i can release those in a few years (about 3 rl days.)

cool, we will soon be sending you our techs, including the ministar engine, and a extremely good minifridge.

We understand the rules. Thank you for the formality.

STOP SENDING THE MINI-FRIDGES! You are killing our sales!

STOP SENDING THE MINI-FRIDGES! You are killing our sales!

The constitution mandates us too, Oh, and an ammendment tothe constitution, any member who joins gets our tech and stuff, then leaves and screws us over will have to deal with serious repprucutions.

I know, I know, it's just that that's our main business. And it's a really nifty one.

So where does our fleet stand?

Nothing yet. We haven't yet built any Aurora ships, or hecate ships, and nobody has yet donated anything. By tomorrow (RL time), our shipyards should have started producing the ships, and our fleet will get started.

Anyone donating?

The StarForge is interesting in joining the alliance. Even after reviewing the laws and disagreeing with mainly the sharing of new technology. However, this small disagreement is far outwieghted by the protection the alliance will offer.

we wish to become part of the alliance.

-Emperor Darth Revan
Ruler of the Empire
Commander of the SF fleets

Excellent, welcome aboard. You'll be added to the roster. And if you really disagree, you can make a motion to have that law changed. if everybody agrees, then it will be changed. We're going to have this thing be completely democratic.

My shipyard will be happy to begin production of small ships such as fighters or shuttles. just give us the plans and we will begin production right away. all Alliance members are welcome aboard the StarForge.

any questions?

-Emperor Darth Revan

My shipyard will be happy to begin production of small ships such as fighters or shuttles. just give us the plans...accept us into the alliance. and we will begin production right away. all Alliance members are welcome aboard the StarForge.

any questions?

-Emperor Darth Revan


have you beaten KOTOR yet?

Not to rain on your parade...but:

Consider these events:

Old Republic/Clone War-Galatic Empire/Rebel Alliance/Civil War-New Republic/Constant wars.


Any alliance on such a scale as this would never work.

BTW- The Empire rocks!

Not to rain on your parade...but:

Consider these events:

Old Republic/Clone War-Galatic Empire/Rebel Alliance/Civil War-New Republic/Constant wars.


Any alliance on such a scale as this would never work.

BTW- The Empire rocks!

we'll have to see, won't we?

The Fleet of the Alliance will be seperate from the fleets of it's members. This way we don't have to rely on people to do things, when we can do it ourselves.

So far, there are two classes of ships in the Alliance fleet.

The Aurora

http://www.vgaplanets.com/v4museum/aurora.gif

and

The Hecate

http://www.freespace2.com/images/ship_hecate/lgpic.jpg

They will be crewed by people from all the members, and they will be commanded by the Alliance, not individual nations. Any ships that nations would like to donate to the Alliance would be welcome, but remember, don't strip yourself bare. The Alliance wont do everything. And, as per Article 5, any ships created using technology from one of the other nations will be part of the Alliance fleet.

....



we'll have to see, won't we?


It won't work.

Someone won't like what the Alliance does...so they pull out. The Alliance gets mad and attacks that nation. That nation gets outside support and then attacks the Alliance.

OR

Several nations get mad at one nation and those other nations get into power and then destroy that one nation.

OR

You have a Clone War or Trade Dispute on your hands.

OR

The list could go on forever.

Excellent point, we need an amendment to deal with that. Anyone?

Okay, this isn't Star Wars (even though I love that movie, and those books, and everything about it).

Laws prevent you from attacking another nation of the Alliance,

A law needs to be approved by every nation before it comes into effect.

There is no cloning here, and every nation has Free trade with every other nation.

I don't see a problem.

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I cannot believe even the mon-keigh could sink so low. Help the weak? Share technology? You are worse than the delusional Craftworlders; at least they know the proper roles of the strong and the weak. Your race, on the other hand, will die from foolish courtesy as my kind, unburdened with the nonsense of mercy or compassion, takes what we desire when we desire it. You cannot stop the way of the universe. You are fools to try.

Archon Mieka, the Dark

that was... incidious sounding.

Question: Are the mon-keigh humans¿ if so, then yeah, we'll die. But it wont be for a long, long time.

Okay, this isn't Star Wars (even though I love that movie, and those books, and everything about it).

Laws prevent you from attacking another nation of the Alliance,

A law needs to be approved by every nation before it comes into effect.

There is no cloning here, and every nation has Free trade with every other nation.

I don't see a problem.


Just because it is a law doesn't mean anything to a determined nation. Free trade is good on paper, but if a nation wants to end Free Trade, they can...then the Trade Disputes erupt. Cloning can go on in secret...just like the Emperor did.

Okay, this isn't Star Wars (even though I love that movie, and those books, and everything about it).

Laws prevent you from attacking another nation of the Alliance,

A law needs to be approved by every nation before it comes into effect.

There is no cloning here, and every nation has Free trade with every other nation.

I don't see a problem.


Just because it is a law doesn't mean anything to a determined nation. Free trade is good on paper, but if a nation wants to end Free Trade, they can...then the Trade Disputes erupt. Cloning can go on in secret...just like the Emperor did.

The thing about approval by 100% of the members...that was in the US Articles of Confederation.

Okay, this isn't Star Wars (even though I love that movie, and those books, and everything about it).

Laws prevent you from attacking another nation of the Alliance,

A law needs to be approved by every nation before it comes into effect.

There is no cloning here, and every nation has Free trade with every other nation.

I don't see a problem.


Just because it is a law doesn't mean anything to a determined nation. Free trade is good on paper, but if a nation wants to end Free Trade, they can...then the Trade Disputes erupt. Cloning can go on in secret...just like the Emperor did.

I believe the point was made already, this isn't starwars.

First of all, let me say that the information Star Wars episode I, and II in no way matches the information from the original Trilogy, or any of the novels.

If a nation tried to end free trade we would kick them out of the Alliance.

The cloning doesn't have to go on in secret, they could say it if they wanted to.

And if any of the nations decided to try to gain power, the might of all our systems, plus the Alliance military would come down on him/her. Hard.

The thing about approval by 100% of the members...that was in the US Articles of Confederation.

So¿

Also, as a defense against any nation attempting to seize power or control the Alliance fleet, each ship has code hard-wired into it that allows either me, or Jimathon, to take control of the fleet and shut it down. The thing that prevents us from using that to take control is that it can only turn off the fleet, not make it do stuff, so we still have to face every other nation, and we need written authorization from every nation (not trying to take control) to activate it.

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The thing about approval by 100% of the members...that was in the US Articles of Confederation.

So¿

The AoC was replaced by the Constutition because it didn't work as planned.

Now, if we could get back to the purpose of this thread. Who else would like to join the Alliance¿

BTW we have flying ducks, we cant lose.

The thing about approval by 100% of the members...that was in the US Articles of Confederation.

So¿

The AoC was replaced by the Constutition because it didn't work as planned.

I know. But this isn't America, and this constitution isn't the Articles of Confederation.

BTW we have flying ducks, we cant lose.

dude, those ducks ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, who wants to join the Alliance¿

Now, if we could get back to the purpose of this thread. ...

Sorry. :oops:

Now, if we could get back to the purpose of this thread. ...

Sorry. :oops:

It's ok, you ment well. Wanna join?

No biggie.

Now, if we could get back to the purpose of this thread. ...

Sorry. :oops:

It's ok, you ment well. Wanna join?


After the protest I just made...not now. I'd like to send an Observer and then maybe consider joining at a later date.

we welcome him/her a I would you.

Your choice. But just so you know, this Alliance is gonna last for a long time. Come by when you're ready.

The Nebulon-B Frigate Phenoix is en route now. It is carring the Observer. I request that the FRG Phenoix is allowed to stay and serve as a Base of Operations for the observer.

The FRG has its own defenses, escorts, and supply craft.

send him to seron (my capital), I'll take care of him.

Oh, and where will the alliance capital be?

The Phenoix is welcome in any of the Klonor systems. if you need to re-supply or be repaired, go to the Arcadia Installation, there's one in every system. it should be able to fill any of your recreational or ship needs. Have a look around.

OOC: Freespace eh?

Perhaps an unclaimed system, one that is not owned by any of the members¿ After the Mindset update of the map we can pick one, and move command there. That way no nation has more influence, yet it is still centralized in one spot.

Perhaps an unclaimed system, one that is not owned by any of the members¿ After the Mindset update of the map we can pick one, and move command there. That way no nation has more influence, yet it is still centralized in one spot.

ok, when's it coming out?

OOC: Freespace eh?

Yup. My entire fleet is from the FreeSpace game, and I even got the idea for this from the GTVA (Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance). Plus, all my systems our the site of large events. The NTF (Neo-Terran Front) rebellion, the Shivan invasion point, the place of the Deneb convention, etc.

if you want to see my fleet it's at
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081

FreeSpace rocks!

Yo, my ducks are on sale, check if you're interested.

OOC: soory to hijack, but klonor does it all the time.

IC: I don't know exactly when the Map is coming out, but unless you would like to wade through 20 pages of claimes we have to wait. Until then I volunteer an Orion cruiser to be used as a mobile capitol. I will even withdraw my entire crew from it, so that it is not seen as "my capitol"

I hereby donate 10 orions to the alliance!

You just bought those! Oh well. The donation of 10 Orion class cruisers is greatly appreciated.

I said 10, not 20. The other 10 I bought is for me.

My shipyard will be happy to begin production of small ships such as fighters or shuttles. just give us the plans...accept us into the alliance. and we will begin production right away. all Alliance members are welcome aboard the StarForge.

any questions?

-Emperor Darth Revan


have you beaten KOTOR yet?



Yes i have. you know what the starforge looks like. cool isnt it.

OOC:
FreeSpace rocks!
True dat.

At my ship display thread, i also sell the FreeSpace ships. You could buy them if you want.

My shipyard will be happy to begin production of small ships such as fighters or shuttles. just give us the plans...accept us into the alliance. and we will begin production right away. all Alliance members are welcome aboard the StarForge.

any questions?

-Emperor Darth Revan


have you beaten KOTOR yet?


Yeah, were you light side or dark?


Yes i have. you know what the starforge looks like. cool isnt it.

At my ship display thread, i also sell the FreeSpace ships. You could buy them if you want.

My nation's defense budget is about 45,000,000. All of which was spent getting 3 M1A2s, and 20 sniper rifles at AIDS.

You could buy 2 Orions. or an Orion with some fighters. or a couple Deimos's with a Fenris. or just some fighters if you want. Each order doesn't have to be 20 Orions.

You could buy 2 Orions. or an Orion with some fighters. or a couple Deimos's with a Fenris. or just some fighters if you want. Each order doesn't have to be 20 Orions.

My government would like launch its first satellite before going deep into space.

It's always a good step to get a satellite before you launch an inter-stellar war ship. See you in a few NS years.

Oh, and where will the alliance capital be?

there are many options. dependng on the Alliance Members, which i think should be refered to as the Council. We could choose many different locations. but i suggest a nuetral location offworld. perhaps a space station constructed and funded by the member nations.making the cost for each nation minimal and could be a blending of our nations. if construction is to begin on such a space station. it should be heavily armed. for the only perpose that no betraying member nation or any other threat can wipe out our capital.

Oh, and where will the alliance capital be?

there are many options. dependng on the Alliance Members, which i think should be refered to as the Council. We could choose many different locations. but i suggest a nuetral location offworld. perhaps a space station constructed and funded by the member nations.making the cost for each nation minimal and could be a blending of our nations. if construction is to begin on such a space station. it should be heavily armed. for the only perpose that no betraying member nation or any other threat can wipe out our capital.

That's the best idea, I think.

My shipyard will be happy to begin production of small ships such as fighters or shuttles. just give us the plans...accept us into the alliance. and we will begin production right away. all Alliance members are welcome aboard the StarForge.

any questions?

-Emperor Darth Revan


have you beaten KOTOR yet?


Yeah, were you light side or dark?


Yes i have. you know what the starforge looks like. cool isnt it.

ive beaten it as both...sad as i may be

So, we'll just keep the government aboard the Orion then¿ It's an extremely powerful ship, very fast (for a giant capital ship), and since my crew is off it wont be biased for any nation.

So, we'll just keep the government aboard the Orion then¿ It's an extremely powerful ship, very fast (for a giant capital ship), and since my crew is off it wont be biased for any nation.

Yeah, then when the map comes up we'll get an alliance planet and put a station above. Sound good to all?

OOC: Ahh, do us a favor =p, you know you want the ship to be named the Galatea.

i am in agreement with the orion as a base of Ops temporarily. i will dispatch my star interceptors to the location, they wont have trouble keeping up. not to mention will provide defense. you cant be too careful. if any nations are uncomfortable with SF crew runned Ships feel free to send your own crew. just make sure u test them on the manual. i dont want them to press the wrong button and overload the hyperdrive or fire laser cannons. especially at the orion.

id show a picture but i dont know how.

-Emperor Darth Revan

OOC: Ahh, do us a favor =p, you know you want the ship to be named the Galatea.

Actually, the Galatea was destroyed in an earlier battle that I had with a runaway Jimathon ship (darn traitors blew it up.) The Bastion (which you're going to say next) is on patrol in the Regulus system, so I can't use that either. i was thinking we'd name it something relative to the Alliance.

dont want them to press the wrong button and overload the hyperdrive or fire laser cannons. especially at the orion.

-Emperor Darth Revan

Don;t worry, the orion can take it. It's the largest and most powerful ship in my fleet (except for the Colossus) and is designed to take many powerful blows. One even stood up for three hits from a Lucifer cannon. (the Lucifer had enough power to completely destroy the surface of a planet.) The leaders will be safe there.

OOC: DOH!

I give you the GAD Protector. A Klonor ship, run by a Jimathon crew, escorted by StarForge ships, this ship represents the Alliance by carrying and protecting our leaders.

http://www.volition-inc.com/fs/images/spacecraft/gtd-orionlg.jpg

For stats on this and other Klonor ships, all available for purchase, simply go to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

*picture of stardestroyer with gravity well goes here*

The Ships escorting the big ship above

Would we be able to join this alliance? As an entrance fee, we will put forth 8 Hatshepsut -class destroyers, and 10 Hectate class aircraft carrying war-ships.

OOC: This post has been made by Lenishir.....sorry lol

id show a picture but i dont know how.

-Emperor Darth Revan

On the last page of the link under the Orion picture, there is info on how to post a picture.

Would we be able to join this alliance? As an entrance fee, we will put forth 8 Hatshepsut -class destroyers, and 10 Hectate class aircraft carrying war-ships.

OOC: This post has been made by Lenishir.....sorry lol

There is no charge to get in. Merely read the constitution on the first page, affirm that you will support it, and you're in.

We agree with everything, and would like for the 18 war-ships to be the beginning of the Alliances miltary might.

We thank you for your contribution, and welcome to the Galactic Alliance.

I propose, as a cementing for the GA, that we begin researching and developing a new class of capitol ships. Ones that would do anything but replace the almost out-dated Orions.

We are already researching those, and we already have them in production. Besides the Hecate Destroyer, we also have the Aurora. And the Orion is still top-of-the-line.

The new ships are on page 2.

*Bump-a-lump*

I'll Join!
I HAve 2 New Ships Coming Out And Well I'll Join!

Have you read and agree to the constitution¿

Well¿ I need an answer before I can out your name down under "members". What, have you slipped into an alternate universe¿ That would be so cool! Can I come with¿

Land of Ages and Pedifelliac have joined.

Excellent. When did Ped apply¿

Okay, I just realized that I have almost no idea where you all are. It would be a lot of help (especially to the pilots) if you would each post your space location. What systems you own, where they are, what they are, etc. It'd be a big help, and I'll start.

I own four systems.

Deneb: Colony, with one planet loaned to Lands of Ages, Shipyards in orbit around planets
Regulus: Colony
Epsilon Pegasi: Colony, with one planet as an Elf resettlement center
Gamma Draconis: Primary military base for the Klonor Empire, Shipyards in orbit around planets

We also have numerous Arcadia Installations in other systems.

Feel free to stop in any time, and make good use of the Arcadias.

I have the horsehead nebula, not hard to find. It's big and shaped like a blob with a horse looking hole in the middle.

I have just bought 3 hiigarion battle ships, i bought them to donate to the alliance. anyone want them?

The Mallorean Empire would be most interested in joining this Alliance.

We have our own system (Metallake OCC: its my region), and would be willing to allow people to help colonize it.

Kal Torak

Lord and God of the Malloreon Empire
Ruler of Metallake

im located in a solar system about 12 light years from sol.
Solar System name- Vipers
Home Planet- Benarlan
i have some mining and things going on the different planets while colonization plansare underway :D

The Avoir System may be used as free space to all members of the GA.
Please stop by to visit our humble community.

Avoir
630 light years from Sol
Star-neighbors: Sakmow and Ras Algethi

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I have just bought 3 hiigarion battle ships, i bought them to donate to the alliance. anyone want them?

we'll take them, and will be used by all nations in the event of an emergincy

Malorian and Comdida, your applications have gone through, do you understand the rules, if so, You're both in!

Oh and SC, Arbra can join us if it pleases.

I propose a name change!

Malorian, Welcome Aboard. Hope you have a rip-snorting good time!

P.S. Comdida was already a member.

Malorian, Welcome Aboard. Hope you have a rip-snorting good time!

P.S. Comdida was already a member.

sorry, I'm really behind.

No problem. If you need to, all the members are listed on the first page. They're one or two posts down from the Constitution. And what name would you like to use¿

How about the United Federation of Planets? :lol:

or G.R.O.S.S. (Calvin and Hobbes reference)

OOC: Calbin and Hobbes RULE!

That sounds okay to me, but some people may think it's a bit "Trekkie".

We shall now hold our first vote of the Alliance!

All in favor of changing the name¿

All Against¿

For!

OOC: there aren't enough people online for this to pass.

OOC: We'll just wait for some other people to get on-line.

IC: For

You could make a poll

I think I willl

New Topic: Who did you give the planet that you got from me¿ I can't quite remember, and it will take forever to find that thread.

Lands of Ages, why?

Didn't the Penguins just say that they were living on a planet in my system¿

The Diplomat has conculded that the Empire of Beav would benifit from a membership.

I also (if accepted and as an enemy of the UFP) vote down the name change.

The FRG Phenoix will join the Galatic Alliance Fleet as long as I am able to recall it at a moments notice.

The Galactic alliance welcomes you, as for the fleet you can use it at a moments notice as long as it is a emergincy that was not caused by any misdeed on your part.

Welcome aboard! Hopefully, with the Alliance fleet here for just such a reason, you wont need to recall the ship.

Didn't the Penguins just say that they were living on a planet in my system¿

Yeah, they have a bunch of sheba's there on layover till they can get to thier planet.

The Galactic alliance welcomes you, as for the fleet you can use it at a moments notice as long as it is a emergincy that was not caused by any misdeed on your part.

No...just the FRG Pheniox. I'd rather not build a replacement Frigate if I don't have to.

Didn't the Penguins just say that they were living on a planet in my system¿

Yeah, they have a bunch of sheba's there on layover till they can get to thier planet.

Oh. Okay. That's fine.

The Galactic alliance welcomes you, as for the fleet you can use it at a moments notice as long as it is a emergincy that was not caused by any misdeed on your part.

No...just the FRG Pheniox. I'd rather not build a replacement Frigate if I don't have to.

You could just give us the plans so we can build our own. That way you can keep your frigate. We were kinda hoping the the fleet wouldn't be a part of any nation. That way, if somebody went insane and on a space rampage, he couldn't use any of the Alliance fleet.

I will send the plans for the Nebulon-B Frigate. I will retain the plans for the Modified (or Nebulon-B2) Frigate.

The FRG Phenoix will stay with my fleet.


I have two requests to make of ships transiting Imperial Space:

1) They power down their weapons. There are enough defenses to protect convoys.

2) They submit for Fly-By inspection at outlying Customs Outposts. They will be pulled out of Hyperspace by my Interdictors.

SO WHATS UP!?! I'll just donate a star destroyer to the fleet,

http://www.netmoon.com/starwars/image/ships/destroy2.jpg

SO WHATS UP!?! I'll just donate a star destroyer to the fleet,

http://www.netmoon.com/starwars/image/ships/destroy2.jpg


That is an ISDII, first. Second, I could donate a Super Star Destroyer if I wanted to.

I will send the plans for the Nebulon-B Frigate. I will retain the plans for the Modified (or Nebulon-B2) Frigate.

The FRG Phenoix will stay with my fleet.


I have two requests to make of ships transiting Imperial Space:

1) They power down their weapons. There are enough defenses to protect convoys.

2) They submit for Fly-By inspection at outlying Customs Outposts. They will be pulled out of Hyperspace by my Interdictors.

deal, I think



Beav, why dont you?

Because, a Super Star Destroyer that is not under the control of one signal nation is not a good idea.

It wont, it will be at the controll of an alliance of 10+ nations

I like keeping the SSD Tech under my control...gives me the Balance of Power.

And that is not a Imperial Star Destroyer Mark II. That's a mark I. The Deuces have a slight bulge on each side which make them easy to identify.

And Beav, I'll add you to the roster

That's a Mark II. You can see the raised deck plating towards the bow.

I've commanded and deployed enough ISDIIs to be able to ID one on the spot.

And Beav, I'll add you to the roster

Thanks.

SO WHATS UP!?! I'll just donate a star destroyer to the fleet,

http://www.netmoon.com/starwars/image/ships/destroy2.jpg


That is an ISDII, first. Second, I could donate a Super Star Destroyer if I wanted to. And if I wanted to I could donate a Ecilpse-class star destroyer. But I cant being I onley have one.

Our tech will be sent as soon as you send yours.

Okay, is the bow front or back¿ (I keep forgetting which)

SO WHATS UP!?! I'll just donate a star destroyer to the fleet,

http://www.netmoon.com/starwars/image/ships/destroy2.jpg


That is an ISDII, first. Second, I could donate a Super Star Destroyer if I wanted to. And if I wanted to I could donate a Ecilpse-class star destroyer. But I cant being I onley have one.

you could donate the plans, we can build it we have your tech, just not the plans.

I think the Eclispe is godmodding...considering the fact that it takes a lot of effort to destroy them...and very little (if you know how to do it) to take out a SSD.

Okay, is the bow front or back¿ (I keep forgetting which)

The bow is the front...you can't bow backwards...you bow fowards.


Also:

PORT has 4 letters, so does LEFT.

If you're gonna mention the usual "throw a fighter at the bridge" remark, we have developed many ways to make that not work. The occurance which killed the Executer will not happen again.

If you're gonna mention the usual "throw a fighter at the bridge" remark, we have developed many ways to make that not work. The occurance which killed the Executer will not happen again.

Not on mine either. I have several ways to stop the loss of a SSD if the main bridge is taken out.

The plating towards the bow isn't raised. But let's move this to a different topic. We're about to hijack this one.

Quite, Kloner, give a status report on the fleet.

Our tech will be sent as soon as you send yours. Okay so umm, I have a new pice of tech I would like to share.*Picks up a box with a a tick inside* I call it Enviromental WMDs. They are normal bugs except that they carry a deadly virus. The exact virus is up to the maker. If you would like this tech please tell me.

The plating towards the bow isn't raised. But let's move this to a different topic. We're about to hijack this one.

Whatever. I think it is...you don't. I don't really care...just trying to make sure it is what it is...the URL has a 2 at the end of "destroyer". That is why I thought it was an ISDII.

Our tech will be sent as soon as you send yours. Okay so umm, I have a new pice of tech I would like to share.*Picks up a box with a a tick inside* I call it Enviromental WMDs. They are normal bugs except that they carry a deadly virus. The exact virus is up to the maker. If you would like this tech please tell me.

I don't think we can condone a bio weapon, Kloner, your opinon?

Oh everyone needs to vote on the name change!

No bio weapons. We're hear to protect people and stop wars, not completely kill a planets ecology. Let's leave WMD's out of this.

You'd be surprised what the Imperial Security Breau has in its stockpile.

What happenes if the vote ties?

I think the Eclispe is godmodding...considering the fact that it takes a lot of effort to destroy them...and very little (if you know how to do it) to take out a SSD. It not godmodding because I took years to build it. I would like to keep the plans. Not that I wont always but I like to keep them for now.

If you're gonna mention the usual "throw a fighter at the bridge" remark, we have developed many ways to make that not work. The occurance which killed the Executer will not happen again.

Not on mine either. I have several ways to stop the loss of a SSD if the main bridge is taken out.So did the Imperials, but damage control crews didn't get to one of the secondary bridges quick enough.

You'd be surprised what the Imperial Security Breau has in its stockpile.

What happenes if the vote ties?

anything dirty?

If you're gonna mention the usual "throw a fighter at the bridge" remark, we have developed many ways to make that not work. The occurance which killed the Executer will not happen again.

Not on mine either. I have several ways to stop the loss of a SSD if the main bridge is taken out.So did the Imperials, but damage control crews didn't get to one of the secondary bridges quick enough.

Okay, let's make a new thread for this conversation.

It is the Imperial Security Breau... :wink:

Ryanania, would you like to join the Alliance¿

No bio weapons. We're hear to protect people and stop wars, not completely kill a planets ecology. Let's leave WMD's out of this. Awww! But R&D took a long time to make it! Can I at lest keep the plans and the Equipment for those "Just in case" moments?

No bio weapons. We're hear to protect people and stop wars, not completely kill a planets ecology. Let's leave WMD's out of this. Awww! But R&D took a long time to make it! Can I at lest keep the plans and the Equipment for those "Just in case" moments?

ok, just, be VERY careful with them.

im for a name change only if we get a good name to change :lol:

No bio weapons. We're hear to protect people and stop wars, not completely kill a planets ecology. Let's leave WMD's out of this. Awww! But R&D took a long time to make it! Can I at lest keep the plans and the Equipment for those "Just in case" moments?

ok, just, be VERY careful with them. WEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! YOU wont REGRET IT!

I sugguest that we set up some sort of Patrol Force to patrol the Galatic Alliance.

I take it we are being combined into one region/galaxy or something to that effect?

I don't know, I've got a lot invested in my region, I could send a puppet to represent me. Oh and Pedipheliac is working on a web page. As for a patrol force, I dont know, our many lands are very spread out.

I wouldnt think, Becase Jim is the regional head of a region, The Kabal.

Each person maintains their own fleet and patrols their own borders (article 1). The Alliance Fleet does make patrols of all systems, and will respond if there is any need, but we're not all in one place, so don't rely on them completely. If you need help, give up a yell and we'll hurry over.

And if you don't like the name change, vote "NO"

Oh...ok.

give a yell since soon my friend will soon have the drawings of my ships back to me so i dont have to pic hunt :D plus my space fleet is bored alot no one comes near my borders since no reason untill we finish the public space station.

wait im a no not a yes. i dont really care for united federation of planets. to star treky i think.

What about me¿ We haven't had one good battle yet.

Klonor, whats the stats on our fleet?

all my battles happen with my earth navy and stuff. never any space battles. :(

Why don't we play a War Game?

The First Fleet is in the area...

give a yell since soon my friend will soon have the drawings of my ships back to me so i dont have to pic hunt :D plus my space fleet is bored alot no one comes near my borders since no reason untill we finish the public space station.

wait im a no not a yes. i dont really care for united federation of planets. to star treky i think.

Maybe, but Galactic alliance is kinda boring for a group as large and mighty as we.

My objection stops the name change...since it is not 100% Yes.

We have 3 Aurora class ships, 5 Hecate class Destroyers, 10 Orion class Destroyers, one Imperial class Star Destroyer, and the plans for a Nebulon-B Frigate (which we haven't built yet). Did I miss anything.

That fleet will last all of about 5 minutes.

I've found (and know some) weak points in all those ships.

I want to upgrade that ISD to an ISDII. I have the facilities, if you would give me one RL day, I can do it.

We're still building. We've only existed for 1 day. Plus, there are all the fleet of our member nations. Add that to everything (once we have enough time to actually build something) and we're a power to reckon with.

And if you don't like the name, you can propose a new one once this one is done voting.

I like the Galatic Alliance.

What about the War Game?

Me too.

well i can show everyone what my current ships look like since my display site is almost done. (techniclly its all not mine since all my allies paid for it) :D

I'm all for the war game. can I use the Colossus¿ For information on my fleet, go here http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59081

4 people haven't voted on the name change. Yet since we need 100% and some people have already voted no, the name stays the same.

ok, I'll ref the war game if ya'll want.

That fleet will last all of about 5 minutes.

I've found (and know some) weak points in all those ships.

I want to upgrade that ISD to an ISDII.

You can't upgrade them, they're two a different types of ships. It's as if I said I'm gonna upgrade a jeep to a chevrolet. And name one weak point in an Orion! I dare ya! Come one!

Don't forget all fleet ships are ministar powered.

The Orion is so large its impossible to miss. and i dont care how much shields or armor you have. anything can be destroyed. and its very easy to destroy large ships. all of my ships act as carriers and have long range scanners. thus we launch an attack from light years away. small fighters of tough to hit and pack quite a punch with anti-matter space bombs...granted each craft can only hold...2...its still hurts!

yes all my fighters have hyperdrive. otherwise u cant launch an attack from lightyears away.

-Emperor Darth Revan

do your fighters look like those awsome sith fighters?

Don't forget all fleet ships are ministar powered.

what is this "ministar powered" you speak of?

...

...And name one weak point in an Orion! I dare ya! Come one!

24 Lasar Cannons.
No shield system
Those little yellow-green things sticking out under it
The obvious joint connecting the front half with the back half.

Several well placed Torpedo Volleys could knock it right out of action.

The Orion is so large its impossible to miss. and i dont care how much shields or armor you have. anything can be destroyed. and its very easy to destroy large ships. all of my ships act as carriers and have long range scanners. thus we launch an attack from light years away. small fighters of tough to hit and pack quite a punch with anti-matter space bombs...granted each craft can only hold...2...its still hurts!

yes all my fighters have hyperdrive. otherwise u cant launch an attack from lightyears away.

-Emperor Darth Revan

i didn't mean it was invincible. I just meant it didn't have any weaknesses. Ex. It has no anti-aircraft guns, it armor behind the engines is very small, it's bridge is exposed and easy to hit, etc. I know it can be destroyed. And if you launch an attack using fighters, my fighters will shoot them down. We have numerous interceptors designed to stop bombs that are incoming.

do your fighters look like those awsome sith fighters?

No they look like Tie Advanced. im not completely stealing from Kotor, only partially. The Sith fighters are short range defense and fighter intercept fighters.

Warhead Interception is near impossible even with TIE Defenders...they let a minimal amount get through.

Don't forget all fleet ships are ministar powered.

what is this "ministar powered" you speak of?

The ministar enguine made its debut a couple of days before the Manifest incident, it is essentially an enguine using nebula gas that is ignighted the same way a sun is, this creates a enguine which produces as much power as a sun (A lot of power), high powered gravity wells keep the star super dence and thus super small, hence the name, ministar engine.

i didn't mean it was invincible. I just meant it didn't have any weaknesses. Ex. It has no anti-aircraft guns, it armor behind the engines is very small, it's bridge is exposed and easy to hit, etc. I know it can be destroyed. And if you launch an attack using fighters, my fighters will shoot them down. We have numerous interceptors designed to stop bombs that are incoming.

not to mention my ships using my strategy are defending it.

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No they look like Tie Advanced...

The T/A sucks. The TIE Defender is better.

I don't use Star Wars ships. The Valkyrie and Perseus fighters are bomber interceptors, designed to destroy bombers and any bombs that they have already launched.

Don't forget all fleet ships are ministar powered.

what is this "ministar powered" you speak of?

The ministar enguine made its debut a couple of days before the Manifest incident, it is essentially an enguine using nebula gas that is ignighted the same way a sun is, this creates a enguine which produces as much power as a sun (A lot of power), high powered gravity wells keep the star super dence and thus super small, hence the name, ministar engine.

OH. like my starforge, except it uses a ful size sun...not a mini one.

I'VE FOUND ANOTHER WEAKNESS!

Force the engine to overload, thereby creating a super nova (or the like) by the star.

Yes, but the starforge is stationary, the ministar is made for ships

I'VE FOUND ANOTHER WEAKNESS!

Force the engine to overload, thereby creating a super nova (or the like) by the star.

and do that how, ministar ships have vents for use in such an instance and has a weapon, plus how would you get to it to overload it?

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...And name one weak point in an Orion! I dare ya! Come one!

24 Lasar Cannons.
No shield system
Those little yellow-green things sticking out under it
The obvious joint connecting the front half with the back half.

Several well placed Torpedo Volleys could knock it right out of action.

How are the laser turrets a weakness¿ it has shields. There is no joint connecting front and back half.

I'm going to start the War Game.

It is 2 Task Forces of mine vs. three Orion ships.

One Task Force:

6 ISDII
1 INT
3 STRKC

Ok in case your wondering intercepting an anti matter bomb is like destroying nuke,but instead it blows up in full force in your face. and is way more powerful. cuz well its anti-matter unleashed instead of inside a reactor thats controlled. but this ministar technology, is anyone willing to trade?

You have it. You're in the Alliance. I'll send over the plans. *Plans sent*

You aoutomatically get the tech when you join the alliance, because we get your tech as well, that way everymember has everyone elses techs, and we all progress faster.

Ok in case your wondering intercepting an anti matter bomb is like destroying nuke,but instead it blows up in full force in your face. and is way more powerful. cuz well its anti-matter unleashed instead of inside a reactor thats controlled. but this ministar technology, is anyone willing to trade?

That is where my Anti-Missile Systems come into play. They destroy the warheads several klicks out, far enough that their proximinty damage doesn't effect the warship.

All CapShips have them.

Exlent, all ships recalled to refir with new Engine. Except for ones defending the orion. which will eventually be recalled but replaced with the newly refitted ships. est time 1RD

That's why we have the Bomber Interceptors, so the bombs are destroyed before they get to close. And I'd say our harbinger bombs are just as powerful.

You aoutomatically get the tech when you join the alliance, because we get your tech as well, that way everymember has everyone elses techs, and we all progress faster.

Not all of my Tech was sent...the only one that was sent was the FRG Tech. All the rest are stored in locked computers on my Capitol Planet.

And, I like all my fission engines just fine.

the traty mandates the tech being sent, not nesesarialy the plans for ships, but all of your tech advances.

ok heres waht my website looks like with some of the main type of ships being built. im stil working on it, need to get my fighter/bomber pics uploaded along with my massive super carrier type thing.

http://www.geocities.com/thetalltreeman/comdidiafleet.html

I'm going to start the War Game.

It is 2 Task Forces of mine vs. three Orion ships.

One Task Force:

6 ISDII
1 INT
3 STRKC

I get the ImpStar II's, but what do the other two things stand for¿ And the orions carry fighter ships. They, like the ImpStars, are carriers as well as battleships.

do the war game in another thread please.

I am not going to have SSDs and TIE Defenders flying around everywhere...most of my Tech is highly classifed Imperial Intel...not for the public's use.

ill bbl folks rl calls

I'm going to start the War Game.

It is 2 Task Forces of mine vs. three Orion ships.

One Task Force:

6 ISDII
1 INT
3 STRKC

I get the ImpStar II's, but what do the other two things stand for¿ And the orions carry fighter ships. They, like the ImpStars, are carriers as well as battleships.


No...those are my Task Forces, therefor, under my control!

The INT= Interdictor, prevents hyperspace (or other faster-then-light travel)
STRKC= Strike Cruiser

So, would anybody like to donate ships to the fleet¿ it will take a while for the ships that we're bulding to be numerous enough to be a real fleet, so for now we really need donations. The Klonor Empire will donat 20 Deimos Corvettes, and 30 Fenris Strike Cruisers. That is in addition to the 3 Auroras, 5 Hecates, 10 Orions, and the ImpStar. Any other donations would be appreciated.

I will donate 20 mandalorians, 5 grants and 2 Jimathons. Plus 200 sheba classes.

When I said "I get" I meant I understood what the abbreviations were. I didn't mean they're under my control.

When I said "I get" I meant I understood what the abbreviations were. I didn't mean they're under my control.

Sorry.

beav i think you need a lesson in tactics. a hydrogen bomb can destroy a diameter of over 20km, anti-matter bombs are more powerful than hydrogen bombs. my fighters jump out of hyper space atmost 15km away. missles and bomber interceptors can just as easily be destroyed as the fighters can. also no one uses bombers that are slow sluggish and easily hit. T/A are fast and can take and dish out a beating.

-Emperor Darth Revan

OOC: thats why i never get all those sci-fi shows that have these huge ships and they act like they cant be destroyed...a hydrogen bomb will blow it to tiny bits. so they have nothing more powerful than a hydrogen bomb? i guess there shields are so powerful to deflect the damage...which in that case the weapons taht get through would effectivly be much stronger than a hydrogen bomb.

Excellent, with the addition of the awesome flying ducks we are now invincible!

Our fleet is:

3 Auroras
5 Hecates
10 Orions
20 Deimos
30 Fenris
20 Mandalorians
5 Grands
2 Jimathons
200 Shebas
10 Star Interceptors
2 Star Carriers

Hydrogen Bombs don't exist in the Sci-Fi World.

Besides, TIE Defenders are better anyway.

If you did jump in 15-20 klicks away, that would give the defenders plenty of time to hyper out.

OOC: thats why i never get all those sci-fi shows that have these huge ships and they act like they cant be destroyed...a hydrogen bomb will blow it to tiny bits. so they have nothing more powerful than a hydrogen bomb? i guess there shields are so powerful to deflect the damage...which in that case the weapons taht get through would effectivly be much stronger than a hydrogen bomb.

OOC: I always think the exact same thing! Finally, somebody else who gets it! That has been driving me nuts for years

Okay, let's get back to Alliance business.

Hydrogen Bombs don't work in space because there is no air to be compressed or to "respond" to the explosion of the bomb.

I've been meaning to ask, do any of you newer members have any enemys or rivalrys we should know about?

Okay, let's get back to Alliance business.

I think that we drifted a tad bit away from Alliance business.

i appologise for the war game talk, and the SF will gladly donate 10 star interceptors(pretty much are star destroyers except have the gravity well things that disrupt hyperspace flight) and 2 star carriers (they're big and hold lots of fighters)

I've been meaning to ask, do any of you newer members have any enemys or rivalrys we should know about?

VERY GOOD question :idea:

...10 star interceptors(pretty much are star destroyers except have the gravity well things that disrupt hyperspace flight)...

Interdictors do the EXACT same thing...and are cheaper too.

You're too young to be able to build something like that...and on that scale.

Why is he to young¿ I'm the same age, and building even bigger things, yet nobody says anything. Interdictors are very weak, they need large escorts. With the gravity wells on a Star Destroyer the can still pull them out of Hyperspace without sending along an escort.

Kloner, I need you over here.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59840

I'm already there

Kloner, I need you over here.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59840

Why them?

You can come to, I said Klonor because he is very well filled in as to our agenda.

could i say my diplomat dude came on board with you guys since i had to go be busy in rl?

That's fine

Yo, get the fleet ready for moments readyness, stuffs going down at elara's.

All member nations, launch your fleets and have them prepare for battle. Be ready to go into Elaran space, but wait until we give the go-ahead, we don't want to start a war with them

ill release my top secret ship distorter. basiclly you just use the hydrogen for our engines to make a massive explosion out engine tubes to make a big explosion liek a nuclear warhead kinda. but i doubt ill do it its still being tested.

All fleets LAUNCH! Rendevous in the Elaran system, and fight off the attackers (not the Elarans). We have been given the go-ahead, and we need to show these other dudes that we don't like hoving our friends attacked.

(Do all this in the Elaran/Alliance treaty thread)