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I prefer to actually write out my descriptions and war decelerations instead of youtube videos.


Well if you made a youtube declaration of war you might not misspell as much. Also all you have to use is your I-M-A-G-I-N-A-T-I-O-N and you might not be so grumpy. In fact I'm going to make you a nice youtube video to make you relax TPF

Well if you made a youtube declaration of war you might not misspell as much.

Where did I misspell something, exactly?

I prefer to actually write out my descriptions and war decelerations instead of youtube videos

Oops my bad I guess war can decelerate. Just like it can accelerate

Ah, ok.

TPF there really is no point on arguing on the internet.

Its like a special olympics even if one of us wins we're still retarded.(Sorry I had to use that)

So lets just agree that we do our own little thing and it makes us happier to do it are way. What do you say to that?

If you had noticed this is a browser-based roleplaying game where you write down the roleplays and get responses from them. Using videos are normally viewed as noobish, and, especially with this poor quality, are quite lol. That said, do what you'd like.

Well I did write an entire speech out so that has to count. I'm just being kind. I like to cooperate with people. However, thanks for the info, at least now I know that if I join a thread with a lot of veterans I shouldn't post videos...unless a professional team of computer engineers and audio technicians creates it and the voice over is done by James Earl Jones.

...unless a professional team of computer engineers and audio technicians creates it and the voice over is done by James Earl Jones.

That would rock
:hail:

That WOULD be very cool.

Haha, you think mics make your voice sound bad? You should hear mine, it makes me sound pseudo-american at times xD

PS. Monty Python=Epic

as for professional, I don't think anyone on this site is a professional movie maker (At least, not that I'm aware of)

Well I think you will find that I am Stephen Spielberg, so ha! If anyone wants me to make a film for them call my publicist.

Lynion has withdrawn from the war. However started the thread, can you class me as a strict netural nation. I no longer have an interest in this war.

Well I think you will find that I am Stephen Spielberg, so ha! If anyone wants me to make a film for them call my publicist.

I believe I asked if I could invade you?

You did?

as for professional, I don't think anyone on this site is a professional movie maker (At least, not that I'm aware of)

A shame, that. Probably no animators either.

i'm semi-pro animator. It can only be with stick figures though. :D

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14374020#post14374020

:O

I think this may get exciting, and quickly.

indeed, i now have a reason to attack you:)

Yes, but never say i'm siding with Stok, I hate him to death. I'm siding with Leistung. *Cough* Amethyst Pact *cough*

Youtube: Rithian Changes Sides (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faO0YwQqK04)

This one is better! I swear! I got better music, and have some game-related messages.

You did?

Yeah...and your kinda suppose to go yes or no? Besides invading you would fit perfectly within the IC of this war instead of me ramdo,ly invading somebody else.

Stop making bad youtube videos, all of you.

Made by Fictions (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeDpSaHbQ8)
Also made by Fictions (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a-FlSev3J84&feature=related)

Make one better and we'll consider your statement. :P

UPDATES

Added everything, including the two youtube vids being relevant, changed sides of nations, and added that one Thread. Any other threads, post links for meh.

ALSO

Added section for Diplomatic RP's involving the war. Make note that Neutral Nations are also allowed in such RP's, since their neutral. At least that's the theory.

In Other News

I agree with TPF concerning Declarations of war. They are more appealing, in my opinion, written than Youtubed. However, with everyones participation so far, it only adds to the emotion and foundation of this entire Global War. So, hey, whom am I to argue?

If anyone should happen to declare war on me please would they name it,"The last flight of the butterfly."

Chernobl still hasn't fired a shot :p.

Ralkovia, since I joined Stok on behalf of Leistung, my ally, are you warring me as well?

yes man, you and me...WAR NOW....I WILL KILL YOU WITH EPIC CANNON

My holy infantry will defend against any attack on my soil! (Which is a fucking lot of soil, I have two huge colonies....)

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DEATH GUARD

Stop the Dot Spam, please.

(Sorry Anagonia)

the death guard are that epic that they need dots

It's time for revenge.

Rithic Revenge: Chazakain Front (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14375242#post14375242)


I am really angry at him. What better way to settle it then a full-scale invasion and some strike missiles?

I'll invade your ass if you invade chazakain. I would focus on me because unlike chazakain I can afford SUPER WEAPONS

You want me to invade you then? Oig! I hate you, you know that?

Edit: If I wasn't stretched this thin, I'd probably win. I have *almost* twice your population. :D

It's time for revenge.

Rithic Revenge: Chazakain Front


I am really angry at him. What better way to settle it then a full-scale invasion and some strike missiles?

mwhaaa my plan worked,
erh
what are you talking about?
I've never attacked your translator

I may just be redirecting and letting you hit me....

CURRENT WAR CAMPAIGNS

-The Blood of Innocent Youth(Chazakain Theatre) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14341091#post14341091)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Greston, Chazakain, Fighter4u
Battle for Chazakain.

may want to change the status from war to either inactive or over or enemy withdrawal, etc

Anyone want to attack me?

Anyone want to attack me?

which side are you on?

Stok.

I would attack you, but I'm on your side, as of like, an hour ago. :D

:rolleyes: So your a traitor...:eek:

No, technically I'm not. GWO is a traitor. I framed him for a terrorist attack on me. So, for all 99% of my people know, and all of what you know, GWO sponsored a terrorist attack in my nation.

Clever.

In other words, I wanted to make a cool video, plus getting to put my favorite character of mine back into office is a nice bonus. Check the video out if you haven't already, it's on the front page of this thread.. "Rithian changes sides"

Stok.

ah, now I just need a reason to attack you.

lets see blockade that goes bad, nah
submarine nah,
terrorist attack :rolleyes: overused
killing of a high ranking official, nah

The fact that my Canadian accent annoys you? Nah...

That you hate me but he is closer?

That you hate me but he is closer?

hmm that just may work!;)
(actually depends on which blue Chen is on the map if hes the lighter blue than yes hes closer than you but if hes the dark blue than your closer.)
hmm if hes the lighter blue, we could be fighting over territorial waters for a time and this would be a good reason.

:D It's so crazy... it might just work.

The fact that I'm... you know... THE ENEMY? :p

Him attacking you gives me justification to attack him. So it all works out. :)

The fact that I'm... you know... THE ENEMY? :p

ah, GWO never accepted our offer of help so we've been just defending against the lefties though being the attacker instead of defender would be more fun. now to just think of a witty thread title.

Arctic Thunder. Hope you can fight in snow buddy.

Arctic Thunder. Hope you can fight in snow buddy.

ah so you are the darker blue and not so much though southern chazakain may be high enough/south enough to get snow...

My nation has a natural defense trigger. You can't really cross the Sudealand during winter, and that is the only landing place without naval bases, cruise missile pads, and of course, a few hundred SMs.

Actually, a better name would be Northern Lights. But yes, hence the maple leaf on my ensign and other Canadian themes.

I just made a good speech in the IC thread.

related (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14345688&postcount=184)

Question.

Why show now something that happened on page 13 of the IC thread?

Because it was never acknowledged, obviously.

Auro Thunder(MT, CLOSED, GWO-stok war) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14375429#post14375429)

Chazakain-Chernobl war

working on the op reasons for war(which is very short and dumb for now)

You want me to invade you then? Oig! I hate you, you know that?

Edit: If I wasn't stretched this thin, I'd probably win. I have *almost* twice your population. :D

(2.3 is very close to 1.8. And with my weapons that advantage quickly dissappears. And in reality I should have a larger population then you or stok. Freaking account going offline for a year.)

Chazakain you already being invaded, lets not go overborad with attacking Chernol.

Btw a attack on Ralkovia or Chazakain is a attack on me. Rithian your now in a full state of war with me. You can expect a invasion fleet at your doors steps agreed?

Yet, I didn't attack Ralk. He attacked me, thus disproving your logic. Now, after my missiles have hit, THEN you can send an invasion fleet. But that won't be till like 3:00 p.m. ET today.

Also, same thing with Chazakain, he attacked me first, PLUS I only declared war.

Edit: Also, I hope you know that if your invasion lasts too long, I'll be getting more men for a while *Cough* I love colonies *cough*

(Yeah but I do believe you approached hillbillies and your translator could not talk in chazakains language well. And hillbillies don't like foreignors. Also I will attack but I won't be able to do it until friday.)

Technically they approached me. My translator was talking on the radio, and they walked in and knocked him out. As in, into my base.

UPDATES

Two new thread links. Moved Chazakain Invasion Thread (Anagonian Version) to "POSSIBLE WARZONES" in case anything else flares up, and a reminder that Anagonia won't do the flaring up since it's out of the war. Changed one nations affiliation from Neutral to Stok Coalition. Did some other stuff.

Thanks everyone for your help in maintaining the OOC thread!

Okay

@ Stoklo, using a nuclear weapon, even a tactical one opens you up to having them used on you. At least by my doctrine which I only use nukes in a retaliatory sense.

My advice would be not to throw nuclear weapons around haphazardly unless you're willing to accept the fact some people's responses will be much larger and severe than yours. Just because you use a tactical level nuke doesn't mean I can't drop enough nuclear weapons to turn you into radioactive dust in retaliation.

IE My region preparing to drop gigatons on you after your icbm launch.

@All the youtube videos

While these are different and break up the sometimes boring declaration of war posts all in all they are annoying, and IMO the lazy way out. At least make sure the text is visible on the backgrounds you choose.

Several videos I can only see parts of the sentences because the letters or even sometimes entire words get lost in the background.
And why add a summary or what have you at the end of the video?

Your video should be clear enough to get the point across without needing a summary.


Lastly I may be having to drop out entirely or at least putting things on hold since I have been informed that I will be going to the field for training exercises starting either tomorrow or on Monday.

Yet, I didn't attack Ralk. He attacked me, thus disproving your logic. Now, after my missiles have hit, THEN you can send an invasion fleet. But that won't be till like 3:00 p.m. ET today.

Also, same thing with Chazakain, he attacked me first, PLUS I only declared war.

Edit: Also, I hope you know that if your invasion lasts too long, I'll be getting more men for a while *Cough* I love colonies *cough*

Doesn't matter what have you. By the end of my invasion, Fighterian tanks will be rolling through your captial city.

Btw...Fiction and Ralkovia is Ralkovia Death Guard Troops still within Fiction? If so can we RP me senting ships full of aid for Fiction ppl(with actual aid in it,ODECON ppl can check the ships) and when I get to a port or near by the Dg guard make a desparte but ultimanly sucessful attempt to borad my ships when the aid is offloaded and then I sail away and link up with a destoryer force that sneaked up close to Fiction?

Why would ODECON care about Fictions? Whiskeasy would, but the alliance as a whole wouldn't.

Yup just me on my lonesome... Plus Anagonia, TNB and U.N....

Btw...Fiction and Ralkovia is Ralkovia Death Guard Troops still within Fiction? If so can we RP me senting ships full of aid for Fiction ppl(with actual aid in it,ODECON ppl can check the ships) and when I get to a port or near by the Dg guard make a desparte but ultimanly sucessful attempt to borad my ships when the aid is offloaded and then I sail away and link up with a destoryer force that sneaked up close to Fiction?

I wouldn't recommend that. Anagonia, despite being Neutral, is heavily overprotective of its interests. Having a war inside fictions where death guard troops or fighterian troops attack Neutral Anagonian Asset's would be seen as an act of war. So yea....

@ Stoklo, using a nuclear weapon, even a tactical one opens you up to having them used on you. At least by my doctrine which I only use nukes in a retaliatory sense.

My advice would be not to throw nuclear weapons around haphazardly unless you're willing to accept the fact some people's responses will be much larger and severe than yours. Just because you use a tactical level nuke doesn't mean I can't drop enough nuclear weapons to turn you into radioactive dust in retaliation.

IE My region preparing to drop gigatons on you after your icbm launch.50 kT is not enough to flatten a city, much less warrant a strategic nuclear strike. If you retaliate with strategic nuclear weapons, then I will fly bombers over to your country from nowhere and drop giant nuclear dirigibles on top of you. I didn't even strike you with nuclear weapons, much less use a strategic nuke.

I wouldn't recommend that. Anagonia, despite being Neutral, is heavily overprotective of its interests. Having a war inside fictions where death guard troops or fighterian troops attack Neutral Anagonian Asset's would be seen as an act of war. So yea....

Not a war... simply a rescue mission for the Death Guards hiding somewhere in Fiction thats all. My liberation comes later if Fiction approves of it. Regardless of whoever the hell got "assets" inside of Fiction. Tough luck for them,tough luck for you.

Not a war... simply a rescue mission for the Death Guards hiding somewhere in Fiction thats all. My liberation comes later if Fiction approves of it. Regardless of whoever the hell got "assets" inside of Fiction. Tough luck for them,tough luck for you.

We shall see. Either way, I forsee that Fictions will be left alone after the "occupation dispute" is resolved in a very diplomatic fashion.

I will fly bombers over to your country from nowhere and drop giant nuclear dirigibles on top of you

Why don't you try that and see how well it goes?

( 50 kilotons...15 leveled a japanese city...Stok a nuke is classified as a WMD, it doesn't matter if it is 1kT or 1 megaton it is still classified as a wmd.)

Why don't you try that and see how well it goes?

I don't think he will. And if he does that's his choice.

( 50 kilotons...15 leveled a japanese city...Stok a nuke is classified as a WMD, it doesn't matter if it is 1kT or 1 megaton it is still classified as a wmd.)

Correct. As far as I know, the Non-Nuke Policy is still in effect. Though I'm wondering if the event happened before the policy or not.

We shall see. Either way, I forsee that Fictions will be left alone after the "occupation dispute" is resolved in a very diplomatic fashion.

Yes, that would be best for both sides. I sure all concerned parties would agree to, considering the lenghts I would be willing to go through to see such a thing happen.

And yah for dial-up! :mad:

Yes, that would be best for both sides. I sure all concerned parties would agree to, considering the lenghts I would be willing to go through to see such a thing happen.

And yah for dial-up! :mad:

*kills his dail-up and replaces it with High-Speed*

THAR.

And yes, that's what I'm aiming for personally anyway.

*kills his dail-up and replaces it with High-Speed*

THAR.

And yes, that's what I'm aiming for personally anyway.

It be for the best seeing that I sure we all agree thats Fiction a wicked RPer.

And in a month and a half after 3 years of dial-up I will be getting high-speed. So expect a lot of cheering! :P

.3 years of dial-up

dear god i change to high speed only having half a year of dial-up


oh is Fiction getting any food Aid?

dear god i change to high speed only having half a year of dial-up


oh is Fiction getting any food Aid?

I would assume so.

dear god i change to high speed only having half a year of dial-up


oh is Fiction getting any food Aid?

Heh...lucky sob...*grumbles* :tongue:

And if Fiction and/or Ralkvoia agrees to it then yes.

The event happened long before the policy was enacted. Regardless, it no longer matters, as I changed the nukes to vacuum bombs a while ago because of GWO's complaining.

50 kT is not enough to flatten a city, much less warrant a strategic nuclear strike. If you retaliate with strategic nuclear weapons, then I will fly bombers over to your country from nowhere and drop giant nuclear dirigibles on top of you. I didn't even strike you with nuclear weapons, much less use a strategic nuke.

You clearly missed the entire point of what I have said.

A nuke, is a WMD.

Therefore you opened yourself up to having WMD's used on you. It doesn't matter if you used a small nuclear device hidden in a shipping crate. It doesn't change the fact you used WMD. So you open the door who ever you deployed a WMD against to turn you into dust or cover you with chemical/Bio weapons should they see fit to do so.

The Japanese used conventional bombs on pearl harbor and we leveled two cities to end the war. Hrmm a few sunk ships < two cities getting annhilated. We didn't answer with equal force, we didn't have to.

Another example. In Iraq/Afghanistan coalition forces get shot at by mortars or rpgs, they then drop 500lb bombs or shoot hellfire rockets etc on enemy positions.

Again the response is far greater than the initial aggression.

Its not a requirement in war to answer an attack with an attack of equal force. Unless the responding party wants to.

So I say to you yet again. If you don't want to risk being turned into ash or having a massive retalitory strike against you after you use a wmd on someone, be mindful of who you use WMD's on. IE dropping a tactical nuke on a 55 million nation would probably go over well for you. Dropping one on anything above 4 billion would probably lead to a massive strategic strike

Also I'd love to see said bombers appear from no where since I only recognize these "portals" of yours for the sake of this rp .

I'd also like to see said bombers drop said dirigibles on me. As that would again end with you being turned into glass and ash from gigatons of Havenic nuclear weaponry.

Haven would only care if I launched nuclear weapons, they said. They would not know where the nukes would go, only where they originated, and the fallout would be immense; it would spread across Haven, which would not be good. I would use FOABs on a massive scale, but Haven defends all of its members from unwarranted outside aggression, a fact that I greatly resent but will live with.

You're RPing as a country that has no chances of being retaliated against. Your argument of me using WMDs is invalid as I changed both instances to keep the flow of this RP. Your condescending attitude annoys me. You're a coward on a massive scale IC, and a proud one at that.

I regret agreeing to let you enter this RP.

1st.
I regret agreeing to let you enter this RP.

Well since this was open from the start and if it wasn't it quickly became, you couldn't really keep him out if he wished to help GWO.

Your condescending attitude annoys me
Your attitude about nukes(and this rp in general) annoys me so stuff it. Its an open rp, some people have limited what they want in their theaters and what they will rp happening on their nations/forces if that means they don't want to be nuked than they won't be nuked. While Unkerlantum may be a coward you sir are a war monging, nuke waving fliper.

In other words you just need to get it through your rather thick cranium that some people have a different play/rp style than you specially concerning nukes and that you may indeed lose some fights.

note: This is only my opinion and may not be rooted in complete fact and be heavily biased because the side I picked in this war.

2nd Ralvokia: Do you want to rp some death guard units in the Lost in Translation: Korintar v. Chazakain Thread?

3rd: Chazakain isn't recognizing the Rithian declaration of war(mostly because it was declared on false pretenses but other reasons*) so if you could please remove the Chazakain label part on -Rithic Revenge(CLOSED, Stok-GWO war)(Chazakain Kingdom).

* I removed the sections that so insulted Rithian including my hill billy which were not part of the Chazakain Armed Forces attacking his translator and I removed the sections about attacking/killing his unannounced forces(which as a sovereign nation I have every right to do :mad:

How am I a coward?

I never asked my region to take action against you. I even specifically told several on an IRC channel ( which included Anagonia in the channel) that if a conventional attack were to ever be used against me I would not want them (the region) to act. An ICBM flying into the region however is more than enough to warrant a strike against you, since as you yourself said, no one would know exactly where the missile would hit, or if it was nuclear or not.

The only nation(s) I would expect to act even to a conventional weapon would be Allanea, and other CSS members. As stated before their are Allanean bases inside my country so he would have good reason to assist in my defense.

Your assertion that I am rping as a nation immune to attack is false, and calling me a coward is highly uncalled for and bad form.

To clarify.

I wasn't talking about the incidents which were altered and retconned. So you can forget about those and leave them out of further argument as I never meant for them to seem included in the point I was making.

I was going over how you were wrong to think that if you use a nuclear weapon (or other WMD) on someone, they are somehow not allowed to use a massive nuclear strike (or massive WMD attack) against you simply because their reaction to your attack isn't using the same amount of force used in your attack.

I then further explained that sense you seem to use nuclear weapons regularly (your nuclear cannons) you should be prepared to suffer the consequences (a massive nuclear or WMD strike against you) if you use them on the wrong person.

I could go on about how using "portals" to move things freely immune to interdiction attacks and the like is questionable in a MT +3/-3 rp but that's besides the point, and I wanted the rp to progress with as few issues as possible.

I'll stay away from making insults or calling names since I don't have the time or desire to go into a flame/bait scenario.

Hopefully though you finally got what I was trying to say, I can't really simplify it any further.

As to your threats about dropping MOABS and bombers, you must assume I have no type of air defense, or global, regional, or national surveillance type systems. That might explain as to why I came off condescending so I will apologize for that.

Chazakain, condescension and nuclear missiles are unrelated and thus your argument is void. My attitude towards nuclear missiles is liberal, while yours is conservative; condescension is different in its entirety. Agreement != enforcement.

Unker, you strike the smallest members of the allied force, and then say you aren't a coward? If you are not a coward, then launch an attack at me. I'm thinking about how to respond to Kar's post, as I've been busy the past few days and have thus posted no IC. If you decide to launch a massive nuclear strike, fine. Note that I never acted aggressively against you; the missile launches were retconned, and if you decide to glass me then I'll attempt to glass you in retaliation.

If you are not talking about retconned portions, then there is nothing to discuss. I used nuclear cannons against Kar; big deal, for they have a range of 110 km, and cannot be used offensively unless you share a border very close by. And even then, they can't move. Sure, I tried to set up nuclear cannons in Pakistan, but note that I cannot attack GWO with them. It's impossible.

I never used a nuclear missile strike against anyone as of now, in IC.

Nuclear cannons, as I said, cannot move, and are thus not a threat unless you're attacking.

As for portals, if you actually want to create a portal into EA045 you may do so. Kar created one to stage the invasion. If you wanted to, you could too. However, I do not really want to do such a thing for you.

Did I assume that you had no anti-air? No, I did not. In addition, globally you would need a huge number of satellites to monitor everything; there is no way for you to have a satellite hovering above every country of interest, much less maintain multiple. It's FOAB, not MOAB.

Your arguments are void.

I lost interest in participating after reading much of what transpired in the OOC thread.

because I am too much of a pompous elitist who only makes closed threads, to stand missile/nuke spam, OOC dramafest and to post ORBATS instead of dramatic battle despictions from the eyes of a soldier in an attempt to merge both character and war RPing into one.

Hrmm I'm an Imperial nation, there are smaller nations involved in a global conflict with larger nations that would usually defend them tied down in their own conflicts. Thus making the smaller nations easier targets than usual. Being opportunistic is cowardice...riiiiight

By that logic the Romans were cowards,The Greeks were cowards, the Germans in WW2 were cowards, the Japanese in WW2 were cowards, the Russians in WW2 were cowards. The Persians were cowards. The British are cowards. The French are cowards. Americans are cowards.

By that logic any nation that has ever subjugated a weaker state is a cowardly state. Sorry for being opportunistic and exploiting an uncommon opportunity to expand my nation, as well as getting newer members of the rp community involved in a large scale rp.

And actually the "expanding my nation" bit isn't even entirely true since I didn't have plans to ever annex Sans, merely establish some military bases, which would be nice for later rp's and such.

If I had really wanted I could have deployed some SuperDreadnaughts with some insanely large fleet, and some million man army deployments and easily have rolled over Sans in a few missile spam/artillery ridden posts.

Further I don't know of many nations that don't have some sort of global satellite surveillance system on NS even if the NS world is huge, they seem pretty common place actually.

In numerous rps I see even small nations claiming satellite imagery in intelligence reports, and this is accepted as common place on II for developed nations just as acquiring nuclear technology is.

A FOAB is the same concept as a MOAB replace "Mother" with "Father" and there you go. The FOAB is just larger and more destructive than a MOAB. Big deal. But just for you I'll use FOAB from now on.

Stok you should really consider what Chazakin said. Numerous times in this OOC thread and in the other OOC threat, you OOCly threatened to nuke people who wanted to get involved. Several times in the IC thread, you also threatened to nuke people if hey ever became involved as well. How you see this conducive to good RP form or a fun RP for that matter is beyond me.

You see, as much as you may dislike Haven or Gholgoth, there is a reason they have gotten to their elevated stature, and that is due to completed RPs that were of good quality and were enjoyable to those inside it. Your rampant threatening of nuking, especially OOCly, destroys both of those tenants, and frankly makes you despised by both the people you proclaim to hate (Haven) and the people you want to RP with (the average II RPer).

Perhaps the "elitist" aurora that Haven or Gholgoth can put off does anger roleplayers in II, but the one thing that we can say is that we do not OOCly dictate what players can and can't do with their nation. Anyone is free to try to invade, anyone is free to try and make friends. No one is told that if they join a war, they will be instantly nuked into oblivion.

Oh dear, there is a large amount of hate on this thread. Again.

Sigh.

I dont get where this so called hate comes from.

All I did was point out that I'm behaving icly how many many empires, and nations have behaved throughout history. That and I was simply telling stoklo to be mindful of who he uses wmd's on since they might decide to use a greater amount of wmds on him. Since Stoklo has a tendancy to threaten to use wmds at a whim yet, doesn't seem to understand how a tactical nuclear strike can be answered with massive strategic bombing.

I assume all the dislike and ooc stuff comes from the now retconned incident where stoklo was going to have gigatons of nukes droped on him for launching an ICBM into haven. Since right after that incident is when the false assumption that I am immune to attack started.

Since that incident I've been called a coward for taking a good IC opportunity to further establish myself in the world, threatened with an ilegitamit ignore, had ooc threats about magical appearing bombers to drop nukes or massive explosives on me, my favorite thus far is having the "Pick on someone your own size." bit tossed at me. Lastly I've been told "I regret letting you into this rp" at least twice. Which is a shame since Anagonia or GWO could have let me in themselves, further I care very little for someone I don't know in person's opinion of me but that's besides the point.

I lost interest in participating after reading much of what transpired in the OOC thread.

Yes,and as i see the things,a lot of people also did.

Oh dear, there is a large amount of hate on this thread. Again.

Sigh.

Yet again,history is repeating itself...

Rithian may I delcare war agaisnt you in a effort to invade you? Those note I going to be trying my best to do a quaitly RP as I want to improve my RPing skills and I can probably help you improve your RP skills also if you want.

( I'm not going to get involved against Rithian. I am going after a much more valuable prize. Someone I can colonize. *rubs hands greedily*)

( I'm not going to get involved against Rithian. I am going after a much more valuable prize. Someone I can colonize. *rubs hands greedily*)

how about Chernobl?
cold but they have some oil/gold/something of value, snow maybe?

( I'm not going to get involved against Rithian. I am going after a much more valuable prize. Someone I can colonize. *rubs hands greedily*)

And that's what makes you a noob and a poor rper.

I would just like to point out I have backed out of this war now. I can't be bothered with the OOC crap. I'm doing an RP with Fictions and co. So I'm not completely gone.

And that's what makes you a noob and a poor rper.

And this is what makes you an elitist and a poor reader. This is why people don't like you. Comments like these make you seem like you're better than everyone else.

People like you ruin NS.
People like you drain the fun out of life.
People like you think that you can rp.
People like you give a bad name to all the veterans.
People like you scare newbies away.
And furthermore People like you believe you are better than everyone else.


Before you make comments you should be aware that I never got involved. I only got involved because I was defending chazakain. Chazakain edited his post so I am not getting involved. Now before you go yapping your mouth why don't you STFU and think for a minute.

"Hey if I do this people might get mad at me."

I can easily fight you on every level of OOC. Just because I prefer to have fun and make short posts instead of making a paragraph out of,"He needed to pee." You brand me a noob. Just because I don't want to get involved when I haven't even deployed my army near rithian you begin to Jizz out and go,"LOL HE CAN'T CHANGE HIS MIND!!!!!!. SILLY NOOB. LET ME MAKE AN ELITIST STATEMENT A MAKE MYSELF LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE ASS."

So yeah next time shut your trap and we can all have a happy rp together

IF THE OFFENDING PARTIES DO NOT STOP THIS USELESS ARGUMENT, AGAINST SAID OOC REGULATIONS OF THREAD, MODERATION WILL BE REPORTED UPON VIOLATING OFFENDERS

Take your DAMN arguments elsewhere. Keep it CIVIL.

ATTENTION

THERE WILL BE NO SECOND WARNINGS. THERE WILL BE NO SECOND CAUTIONS. YOU WILL BE REPORTED. YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH. YOUR POSTS WILL BE DELETED.

FOLLOW THE RULES OF THIS THREAD OR DO NOT PARTICIPATE IF YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DAMN GAME AND REAL LIFE. GET ALONG, OR GET OUT.

I would just like to point out I have backed out of this war now. I can't be bothered with the OOC crap. I'm doing an RP with Fictions and co. So I'm not completely gone.

That and your to scare to accpet a invasion from me ;)


But nice excause anyway.

That and your to scare to accpet a invasion from me ;)


But nice excause anyway.

Well next time I feel like fighting someone three times my size with a super military I know who to see don't I?

See ya next world war!!

BYYYYYE

IF THE OFFENDING PARTIES DO NOT STOP THIS USELESS ARGUMENT, AGAINST SAID OOC REGULATIONS OF THREAD, MODERATION WILL BE REPORTED UPON VIOLATING OFFENDERS

Take your DAMN arguments elsewhere. Keep it CIVIL.

ATTENTION

THERE WILL BE NO SECOND WARNINGS. THERE WILL BE NO SECOND CAUTIONS. YOU WILL BE REPORTED. YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH. YOUR POSTS WILL BE DELETED.

FOLLOW THE RULES OF THIS THREAD OR DO NOT PARTICIPATE IF YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DAMN GAME AND REAL LIFE. GET ALONG, OR GET OUT.

For the sake of people that have the attention span of a broom.

READ, REREAD, AND GET IT RIGHT.

I like you Anagonia you have class!

I like you Anagonia you have class!

Thank you. And I plan on reporting anyone else without further warning who violates the Thread. I don't care if you made a statement and someone took the damn trolling to the extreme, it's still in violation of the OOC thread and you should have enough common sense to keep your mouth shut.

Either way, let's continue with fun and kindness? Shall we?

Happy days and gummy bears! Would you like a cookie Anagonia? Fighter4U?
(alright no more spam from me)

Well next time I feel like fighting someone three times my size with a super military I know who to see don't I?

See ya next world war!!

BYYYYYE

Hey....this is friendly bantering and ribbing....


Whiskeasy..is consider bad form to run away from invasions just because you fear being over run. You have the full might of ODECON backing you. I have only me. What do you expect when we almost came to blows before and now you nuke Fiction(a ally county I have great respect for?). Beside I trying to get better at RPing quailty,not quantliy. It either you or Leistung. I want my shot at one of you guys. Everybody else is just me moving the chess peices one step closer. ;)

So please don't say I won't invade a country that can kick me ass. If Rithian doesn't aceppt my invasion then I pretty sure Greston has agreed to let me have a shot at him!



Is that trolling? (Me unsure).

Happy days and gummy bears! Would you like a cookie Anagonia? Fighter4U?
(alright no more spam from me)

Spamming in this thread is fine, so long as a followup statement involves something pertaining to the actual topic of the OOC thread. At least, until a Moderator comes along and say's "Stop That", which I will respect.

As you will notice, the majority of this thread involves people getting along and just having fun. THIS is what these last two pages SHOULD have been, instead diving deep into stupidity. That's what I DON'T want.

Happy days and gummy bears! Would you like a cookie Anagonia? Fighter4U?
(alright no more spam from me)

mm gummy bears

side note can Fictions get food Aid ?

I only got involved because I was defending chazakain. Chazakain edited his post so I am not getting involved.

Erh I could still use some help. I'm being invaded by Korintar(which I'm still not sure how to respond to, when she/he/it said mixed tech she/he/it wasn't kidding) and I'm invading Chernobl(silly Chernoblians :) )

side note can Fictions get food Aid ?

How much and where is Fictions located?

Erh I could still use some help. I'm being invaded by Korintar and I'm invading Chernobl(silly Canadians :) )

You know, I would help....but,but you just called me silly! *cries*

You know, I would help....but,but you just called me silly! *cries*

there there.
Apology/Dark side cookie?

and I guess Chernoblians makes more sense than Canadians in this case. *edits*

You know, I would help....but,but you just called me silly! *cries*

Canadians arn't silly, just you! :P

I'm sure you can come to an agreement...lol.

How much and where is Fictions located?

*blick*

Roofl. I guess I help defend you then. Those I won't be invading Kronstar, the mixed tech would be a headache. *Munches on Darkside cookies while wearing a clown hat*

Rithian may I delcare war agaisnt you in a effort to invade you? Those note I going to be trying my best to do a quaitly RP as I want to improve my RPing skills and I can probably help you improve your RP skills also if you want.

Well, sure, but I would wait until the end of winter before declaring war. You'll be like Germany vs. Russia, you have a better army, but the cold is going to kill most of 'em.

Also, I already have a training RP going on. :)

Well, sure, but I would wait until the end of winter before declaring war. You'll be like Germany vs. Russia, you have a better army, but the cold is going to kill most of 'em.

Also, I already have a training RP going on. :)

The cold won't be a problem for me, I can asure you of that. Also if you had time to invade Chazakain. I sure you got time for me to invade you no?

Well if you attack Chazakain I will have to get involved

I just declared war, I don't feel like attacking him at the moment. I have two, much, much, larger nations to deal with.

@fighter: Everyone has problems with the cold, even if you come from a sub-arctic nation, it screws with landing, and winter means hail and such storms. Only exception is an arctic or antarctic nation, who are like, RIGHT near the poles. And those guys can't amass an army much larger then 500,000 troops.

To: Death Guards/Ralovika, Fighter4u and other combatants(excluding Rithian :) )
While we (for the most part) did not need your various experience during this brief war, we still wish to entail your knowledge in the coming negations in Chaziton, Chazaka. We also request that you leave all weaponry at the borders/your ships/bases as this will be a peaceful negation and local police/units will provide any and all protection needed.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/chazsapphire/KA.png

Just wanted that out there.

Hrmm be civil..I don't recall being uncivil, or having any real issues other than a debate over wether or not a tactical nuke warrants a strategic bombardment.

Is II really this paranoid over such things being flaming or whatever? If so I'll just stick to general.

Hrmm be civil..I don't recall being uncivil, or having any real issues other than a debate over wether or not a tactical nuke warrants a strategic bombardment.

Is II really this paranoid over such things being flaming or whatever? If so I'll just stick to general.

thinks she/he/it was referring to ralovkia very "uncivil" post. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14381868&postcount=855)

Hrmm be civil..I don't recall being uncivil, or having any real issues other than a debate over wether or not a tactical nuke warrants a strategic bombardment.

Is II really this paranoid over such things being flaming or whatever? If so I'll just stick to general.

I believe the statement was directed towards individuals whom knew they were basically trying to recourse the OOC thread into chaos and rantings. If you weren't involved, then you have no fear. I'm not judging this time, and I don't care to look back at it. Next time, I don't care if someone is responding. I'm just going to report it. So the wisest move is to just ignore any attempt to bring the thread into Trolling or a Flamewar.

thinks she/he/it was referring to ralovkia very "uncivil" post. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14381868&postcount=855)

I'm am IT...OH NOES. :D

I'm am IT...OH NOES. :D

androids man, they've already arrived and our polluting our Internets. *darn no tin foil hat smilie*

androids man, they've already arrived and our polluting our Internets. *darn no tin foil hat smilie*

Dang right. Also, how do you want to RP the meeting?

I love how Ralkovia's argument stemmed from not invading me. Sooo happy.

Dang right. Also, how do you want to RP the meeting?

i call the Chazaka president, arranged the meeting.. nah

How about I create the thread, set up why Chazakain is doing this and the general setting and you send your diplomat.
or where you talking about something else?

I love how Ralkovia's argument stemmed from not invading me. Sooo happy.

Mind moving on? I don't want to give anyone any possibility of continuing an argument here. Thanks.

Chazakain

Sure, create a thread and well do eet to eet.

Mind moving on? I don't want to give anyone any possibility of continuing an argument here. Thanks.

Chazakain

Sure, create a thread and well do eet to eet.

ok, It's just a flesh wound,Diplomacy(mt,closed GWO-Stok War) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14382400#post14382400)

I just declared war, I don't feel like attacking him at the moment. I have two, much, much, larger nations to deal with.

@fighter: Everyone has problems with the cold, even if you come from a sub-arctic nation, it screws with landing, and winter means hail and such storms. Only exception is an arctic or antarctic nation, who are like, RIGHT near the poles. And those guys can't amass an army much larger then 500,000 troops.

Yes, I know it cold, obv.I going to RP my armies having some problems with the cold. But it not enough to stop a NS MT army that got a buget in the trillions. It just make the RP more intresting. Besides I only be invading with like a million men or so. Geez! So yes or no?

Chazakain: Erh I could still use some help. I'm being invaded by Korintar(which I'm still not sure how to respond to, when she/he/it said mixed tech, she/he/it wasn't kidding.

Emphasis mine, MUWHAHAHAH!!! rotflmao:)

I'll help you chazakain. You and me should just sign a codefense pack and be done with it so I just get involved when you need help.

However, I won't have any time to today to help you. Homework has called my name and my parents overheard it so now I'm stuck doing homework

I said yes already fighter.

I said yes already fighter.

My Mistake. I start the thread and then edit this post to provide a linky to the invasion.

My Mistake. I start the thread and then edit this post to provide a linky to the invasion.

I put linky up when ya post. :D

Ha, was re-reading my thread and I realized that in my last post I said the carrier elements were 700 nautical miles west of the forward fleet elements. I meant east, heh. West would be in Stok somewhere.

By the way, Stok, are you going to be able to get a post up soon? Class has started again for me so I can't spend as much time on here as I'd like, but some would be nice.

UPDATE

Added Fighter4u's thread.

Thanks Anagonia!


Hey Korintar, what excatly is a "defender" and how many are you sending towardsme?

Korintar, "those massive, heavily armed ships" isn't excatly what I needed to know. Did you just make up the name of what? Does the ship( its a flying ship right?) have radar,how heavily armor?,guns? jamming deivces? Can it move quickly? How many? Are they in formation etc,etc!

so is its only a flesh wound going to move forward?
bah goes back to figuring out if Space to Space Pressure Missiles are actually mt or pmt. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14381767&postcount=7)

Yes, I made up the names of the vehicles, and I should put together a comprehensive factbook, I've supplied enough info already, might as well have it all in one place. Well, basically a flying battleship, usually very heavily armed with thick armor. Inspite of the armor, it can still fly at a reasonably fast pace, about Mach .5 (c 325 mph). Its armaments include what might be considered state of the art for MT- including various types of communications jamming equipment, up to 40 laser guided missles, about eighteen machine gun mounts, and sometimes a nuclear payload (don't worry, I will not resort to that cheap shot...yet. I will only respond with nuclear if attacked with nuclear.) It has equipment such as lasers and weaponized high frequency sound amplifiers, which are designed to make an enemy surrender with minimal casualties, except for hearing loss and temporary blindness. Lastly it uses a sophisticated RADAR system, as well as heat signatures and GPS monitoring to detect enemy movements. I am sending about seven of these vessels. They wont attack you if you wont attack them, they're just there as a show of force. They are actually circling right above you, I should have explained everything that makes up my ORBAT better. I figure, I might as well be honest about how my nation chooses to spend its defense funds:) One draw back is that alot of these vehicles use up alot of fuel, but I've gotten around some of the complications, namely, inspired by the USS Nautilus, many Korintari war vehicles use nuclear propulsion systems, combined with hydrogen powered scramjets. I look at the percentages on NS tracker to gauge what might be reasonable. Should not be considered godmodding, for though it is more advanced tech, in some respects, it does not (at least how I Rp), give me any extra advantage over a decent MT force, in fact I'll bet I will not succeed, I just had my men pull back so we could develop a strategy for taking on multiple nations.

Our military is divided up as follows:
Regular army (well armed, well trained and educated soldiers who chose a military civil service path- one way to attain high office in Korintar is through this branch)
militias (local soldiers, poorly armed but well trained and fiercely loyal- decentralized, participatory command structure, occasionally acts as feeder for other branches)
air force (that includes defenders, transports, and gliders- all based off early natikodi technology)*
natikodi (space marines/special ops- the best of the best).**
Navy- the laughing stock of the Security Directorate, underfunded- eclipsed by air force and Space Defense Corps.
*who you are up against, I reccomend something a little stronger than the average anti-aircraft weapon...it will just tick 'em off.
**speaking of ticking off, these are the last people you would want to do that to, for they will want to kill you, and are more than able to do just that...from 100 km above you. You will not see them much, for they will act as combat support, but they do cause some of the tech problems our enemies experience.

so is its only a flesh wound going to move forward?
bah goes back to figuring out if Space to Space Pressure Missiles are actually mt or pmt. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14381767&postcount=7)

Well when you RP a post about why you dragged us down to your nation, then I have something to respond to.

Well, basically a flying battleship, usually very heavily armed with thick armor. Inspite of the armor, it can still fly at a reasonably fast pace, about Mach .5 (c 325 mph). Its armaments include what might be considered state of the art for MT- including various types of communications jamming equipment, up to 40 laser guided missles, about eighteen machine gun mounts, and sometimes a nuclear payload (don't worry, I will not resort to that cheap shot...yet. I will only respond with nuclear if attacked with nuclear.) It has equipment such as lasers and weaponized high frequency sound amplifiers, which are designed to make an enemy surrender with minimal casualties, except for hearing loss and blindness. I am sending about seven of these vessels. They wont attack you if you wont attack them, they're just there as a show of force.

Our military is divided up as follows:
Regular army (well armed, well trained and educated soldiers who chose a military civil service path- one way to attain high office in Korintar is through this branch)
militias (local soldiers, poorly armed but well trained and fiercely loyal- decentralized, participatory command structure, occasionally acts as feeder for other branches)
air force (that includes defenders, transports, and gliders- all based off early natikodi technology)*
natikodi (space marines/special ops- the best of the best).**
Navy- the laughing stock of the Security Directorate, underfunded- eclipsed by air force and Space Defense Corps.
*who you are up against, I reccomend something a little stronger than the average anti-aircraft weapon...it will just tick 'em off.
**speaking of ticking off, these are the last people you would want to do that to, for they will want to kill you, and are more than able to do just that...from 100 km above you. You will not see them much, for they will act as combat support, but they do cause some of the tech problems our enemies experience.


Do you have any idea what MT actually means... and how a flying battleship fits nowhere within that?

Well when you RP a post about why you dragged us down to your nation, then I have something to respond to.

erh, kind of was in the op post: POWs, the peace treaty itself, is Anagonia going to pay me/us for the damaged inflected, the continued Neutrality of Anagonia, stuff like that. but if you want me to say it IC. *edits post*

My country follows a warped historical path, when you devote all military funds to air and space weaponry you do get interesting scenarios, I will scale back some of the abilities, like I will just imagine natikodi do not exist, slow down my vehicles, remove some of the more...um advanced elements in my tech so it seems more modern to make things be a little fairer. I do understand that it takes a little stretch of the imagination, but I have never decided to have a half ways decent navy, so why lie and say I do? In fact, as I have mentioned, these vehicles are seaworthy, but in all probability much slower than yours on the ocean. I will have the vessels land (something ironic about saying land on the ocean, lol), so we can have a good ol' fashion naval battle.

fyi: MT= modern tech, this I know, I will try to stay within that range from now on. I am trying to bring my massive militia forces up to that level.

My country follows a warped historical path, when you devote all military funds to air and space weaponry you do get interesting scenarios, I will scale back some of the abilities, like I will just imagine natikodi do not exist, slow down my vehicles, remove some of the more...um advanced elements in my tech so it seems more modern to make things be a little fairer. I do understand that it takes a little stretch of the imagination, but I have never decided to have a half ways decent navy, so why lie and say I do? In fact, as I have mentioned, these vehicles are seaworthy, but in all probability much slower than yours on the ocean. I will have the vessels land (something ironic about saying land on the ocean, lol), so we can have a good ol' fashion naval battle.

fyi: MT= modern tech, this I know, I will try to stay within that range from now on. I am trying to bring my massive militia forces up to that level.


Sure, no problem. Gald we manged to peacefully work it out so we could go back to killing each other. :D

Sure, no problem. Gald we manged to peacefully work it out so we could go back to killing each other. :D

darn i was hoping to use my improved antiair missile destroyers, o well. naval battle allows me to use more of my forces.

My apologies, Kar, the past week I've been busy with schoolwork and there was some household renovations today. Post up in an hour, at most.

OOC: Sure. Expect now I probably a lot stronger then you as you no longer have any airpower... You might want to fix that. Because sea-on sea I have a huge upper hand. So its unrelistic for you to land your ships in the water to fight me. Even those to have them fly would voilate the rules of MT.... My head hurt. Anybody got any suggestions?

Because I doubt to many are paying attention to that thread, might as well post it here.

I R POSTED Chaza...and basically answered every one of your questions. XD

Chaz, perhaps you could try using those anti aircraft weapons as the seven I am battling Fighter4U with are not the only defenders I have- note orbat. I have also had my country produce four more, thus I will edit my orbat.

My country follows a warped historical path, when you devote all military funds to air and space weaponry you do get interesting scenarios, I will scale back some of the abilities, like I will just imagine natikodi do not exist, slow down my vehicles, remove some of the more...um advanced elements in my tech so it seems more modern to make things be a little fairer. I do understand that it takes a little stretch of the imagination, but I have never decided to have a half ways decent navy, so why lie and say I do? In fact, as I have mentioned, these vehicles are seaworthy, but in all probability much slower than yours on the ocean. I will have the vessels land (something ironic about saying land on the ocean, lol), so we can have a good ol' fashion naval battle.

fyi: MT= modern tech, this I know, I will try to stay within that range from now on. I am trying to bring my massive militia forces up to that level.

Well should you ever want to fight an avid PMT air force I'm open for it. I have a few weapon ideas that are only possible in PMT or FT however most fit in the PMT category.

Heh, I tend to be the type of guy who only likes Mt to Mt+3 and maybe a little sword fight every now and then. In other words your old fashion guy ;)

All of a sudden, the peices of sand were revealed in a glorious explosion, at least a mile wide. After slowing down the advance of infantry, fields of Kakaru Tanks dug in at the fields that surrounded. The icy waters, and the snowy ground, they were in perfect harmony. Why couldn't Humans be?


Um Rithian, I afaird I don't understand your post. You do know I only lanched aircraft at your nation right in a attempt to bomb your nation defenses and that I giving you a chance to RP your airforce fighting back, or your navy attacking me or whatever. But how does blowing up your beach hurt me?

Well should you ever want to fight an avid PMT air force I'm open for it. I have a few weapon ideas that are only possible in PMT or FT however most fit in the PMT category.

Fighter4U: Heh, I tend to be the type of guy who only likes Mt to Mt+3 and maybe a little sword fight every now and then. In other words your old fashion guy ;)

So I noticed, Fighter4U. I combine the best of both worlds, imho, Ralkovia and Fighter4U. My militias slice you like diced onions and my airforce and Space Defence Corps substitutes for a traditional navy. I play in MT scenarios, because that is what my nation most closely fits into, even if some elements, such as orbital/aerial forces and communications systems (you would be surprised how easy Korintar has it uncoding messages:D), fit into PMT, or esp. in the case of communications/espionage, FT. I actually checked to see if I could do a mixed tech set up, and while frowned upon by some, it is not completely taboo and in fact the compass to II describes situations where you may have different tech levels battling each other. That is why I did not specify MT, PT, FT, PMT on my thread, certain Korintari inventions do not follow traditional MT conventions, many do, but not all.

hey :D um as a heads up I'm back (if anyone cares lmao) that bein said I'm fairly sure im still in the hegemony

hey :D um as a heads up I'm back (if anyone cares lmao) that bein said I'm fairly sure im still in the hegemony

Welcome back DaWoad, I do indeed remember you ;)

And Kornitar, just please as a favor to me make sure it alls MT-MT+3 when fighting me. I get crooked when it isn't and you don't want to see when I crooked! ;)

Welcome back DaWoad, I do indeed remember you ;)

And Kornitar, just please as a favor to me make sure it alls MT-MT+3 when fighting me. I get crooked when it isn't and you don't want to see when I crooked! ;)

What does MT+3 entail, just curious, compared to regular MT? What tech is allowed, and what is not?

What does MT+3 entail, just curious, compared to regular MT? What tech is allowed, and what is not?

MT+3 is anything that would be possible in 10-30 years at max. Also do I post about your battleships yet?

If you feel like it, I was setting things up. So you know, chargers, as their name implies, are basically battering rams. They have very thick armor and guns towards the front, and will generally just start hitting the sides of your ships, occasionally a head on collision. They may fire some very powerful munitions at you to weaken them, so you have an idea of what these ships will do to you.

For all the vessels in my airforce I was trying to think along the lines of late MT+3 (now that I understand what is meant by it) to early PMT, but almost everything else was PT to MT range (exception natikodi, definately beyond the constraints of MT). I am glad there is a meeting of the minds :D :D

Ok then, tell me when your ready then.

fire at will! The update just implied that you could respond.

Ah-ha. But I have to do it tomorrow as I gotta catch a few winks now.

Welcome back DaWoad, I do indeed remember you ;)

And Kornitar, just please as a favor to me make sure it alls MT-MT+3 when fighting me. I get crooked when it isn't and you don't want to see when I crooked! ;)

lol thanks fighter how goes it?

Hey, I'd like to note that all members of ODECON have withdrawn, not just ODECON itself.

Greston
Leistung
Lord Sumguy (and by extension, the Hegemony)
Whiskeasy
Greal
New Kereptica
Brittanican Adenia

These should all be removed from the list.

Hey, I'd like to note that all members of ODECON have withdrawn, not just ODECON itself.

Greston
Leistung
Lord Sumguy (and by extension, the Hegemony)
Whiskeasy
Greal
New Kereptica
Brittanican Adenia

These should all be removed from the list.
ah right in which case I prolly shouldn't jump right in . . .what happend??? (i was gone)

Leistung was attacked by terrorists sponsored by the GWO, which led ODECON to mobilize in his defense. Then a member of ODECON was attacked by Buddha C, so we defended him. There were some preparations to invade GWO provinces, but we pulled out instead. A couple members stayed behind on their own volition to do their own things, but they pulled out soon afterward, as well. The Heg was only involved because of LS going to war.

Not much, really.

Pretty Good Dawoad! ;)


Ritian do you want to make peace instead? I have some very favorable terms that you will love. After all I don't actually want to anex your nation. That was just a scare tatic.


Whiskeasy, you do relise that all of IFA + me and others would attack you should you do something stupid with Fiction right?

Like what? I'v already nuked it. How much more stupid can you get? XD

Like what? I'v already nuked it. How much more stupid can you get? XD

lol point. nope all thats left is to send in the marines in about 50 years . . .u know to paint the parking lot lines

Like what? I'v already nuked it. How much more stupid can you get? XD

Nuking it again?

Not that I would ever let you ;)

Like what? I'v already nuked it. How much more stupid can you get? XD

Well, their nuking me ;)


Me got a few nukes 2 :P


:D

Are they!?

I'd like to point out that "IFA" is ... well, no one. So, F4u v. Whisk.

Id prolly back fighter

No I'm not nuking him. And he would win coz he is like three times my size.

Well I'm going to be breaking IFA up real soon.
Don't tell GWO lol.

Well I'm going to be breaking IFA up real soon.
Don't tell GWO lol.

hey Ralk whatsup man :D also whats IFA????

Id prolly back fighter

I would advise against that.

The IFA is the Imperial Fascist Alliance.

Hey Woad. Imperial Fascist Alliance.

I'm going to destroy rykaria

I would advise against that.

The IFA is the Imperial Fascist Alliance.

ah right . . .got yah . . .no backing of fascists or the hegemony gets. . . upset with me :D lol

oh yeah the hegemony would definitely lose to me.................................................................................................. .................................................................................................... .................................................................................................... .................................................................................................... ...................................................................................................i n a one on one battle with my death guard commander

Well I'm going to be breaking IFA up real soon.
Don't tell GWO lol.

If you dont mind me asking, why? What would you gain by doing so?

Killing Ryk? He hates him.

no disbanding the IFA

Oops...bad grammar their, I ment their is nuking me.As in to say if you nuked me ;)

And Ralkovia, the IFA is a very important alliance. I hate to see what happens if we go toe to toe agaisnt each other.


Whiskeasy thats why you don't do anything stupid, or else I attack you. And if you ingnore on the basic I big enough to beat you...well everybody will laugh at you.


DaWoad, thansk for the thought anyway ;)

Oops...bad grammar their, I ment their is nuking me.As in to say if you nuked me ;)

And Ralkovia, the IFA is a very important alliance. I hate to see what happens if we go toe to toe agaisnt each other.


Whiskeasy thats why you don't do anything stupid, or else I attack you. And if you ingnore on the basic I big enough to beat you...well everybody will laugh at you.


DaWoad, thansk for the thought anyway ;)

He who attacks Whiskeasy attacks ODECON as well.

Lord Sumguy, I been gunning for ODECON blood the day I met the alliance(a long time ago). You be doing excatly what I want you to do. Those it kinda baffers me why come Whiskeasy is scare of me when he has the suppose might of ODECON behind him.

Lord Sumguy, I have been gunning for ODECON blood since the day I met the alliance(a long time ago). You are doing exactly what I want you to do. Though it kinda baffles me that Whiskeasy is scared of me when he has the supposed might of ODECON behind him.

I think perhaps RPing a war with you just doesn't interest him and he doesn't think he'd enjoy it.

I think perhaps RPing with you just doesn't interest him and he doesn't think he'd enjoy it.

Maybe, but why would that be when I always try to come up with intresting RPs and such? And what with bolding some of my words?

Maybe, but why would that be when I always try to come up with intresting RPs and such? And what with bolding some of my words?

Those are merely grammatical and spelling suggestions.

perhaps your first interesting RP with him should be something other than an all-out war?

Those are merely grammatical and spelling suggestions.

perhaps your first interesting RP with him should be something other than an all-out war?

Fiction very first RP on this forum was a civil war that could had gone either way. IFA fought in one side and that side won and Fiction stayed a dictorship.
But during the civil war Whishkeasy express a OOCLY desire to topple the Fiction government in support of the rebels. In that effect he postioned a invasion fleet outside Fiction waters. In a effort tog et him to remove that fleet I then postioned a fleet outside his waters with a proimse that if his fleet invaded Fiction. My fleet would invade him. Anyway, I came a hairbreath away from invading him before he joined the ODECON and now frankly I wished I had. :P

Aha! You said "the" ODECON! Somebody else does it too!

I'm waiting and busy at the same time.

Aha! You said "the" ODECON! Somebody else does it too!

I'm waiting and busy at the same time.

:$

And I know the feeling of being busy well you wait.. :(

Just curious, what is the Ralkovian Death Guard? I've heard it referred to before, and I wonder what they are since Chazakain wants them to take on my forces.

Just curious, what is the Ralkovian Death Guard? I've heard it referred to before, and I wonder what they are since Chazakain wants them to take on my forces.

They are the super elite guard force of the old Ralkovian Empire. Men trianed and brainwashed from birth to believe their immortal, and most likely pumped with drugs and other techiquences that make them less able to feel pain or remost. Their heavily armored units and loyal as hell to the Ralkovian G-d and to each other. Other then that their noting special then say GWO Storm Troopers or my Special Elite Forces.



Of Coruse considering that Ralkovia just handed over control of his military to a forgein power, he not longer controls them. So you have to ask the guy who more or else took him over.

Hey Stok, sorry for the long delay. Class and work are very time-consuming right now, and I'm involved in three different RPs so I can't be everywhere. I'll try and get a post up this afternoon between class and work.

Sounds like I might have to deploy the natikodi after all. :D

They are the super elite guard force of the old Ralkovian Empire. Men trianed and brainwashed from birth to believe their immortal, and most likely pumped with drugs and other techiquences that make them less able to feel pain or remost. Their heavily armored units and loyal as hell to the Ralkovian G-d and to each other. Other then that their noting special then say GWO Storm Troopers or my Special Elite Forces.



Of Coruse considering that Ralkovia just handed over control of his military to a forgein power, he not longer controls them. So you have to ask the guy who more or else took him over.

was that not Tocrowkia who they handed over control too?

Sounds like I might have to deploy the natikodi after all. :D

Well the Death Guard as Ralkovia RPs them is really PMT. So I don't see why not. Those frankly once again, Ralkovia no longer controls his military so I doubt he can help Chazakain anyhow.

Hey Stok, thanks for getting a post up so fast! Put my sluggish rate to shame, I’m afraid. Also, nicely done on the casualties. Most RPers nowadays seem to have a real problem with taking damage, and it’s refreshing to see that that isn’t the case here. Of course, I do have some questions for you regarding the last post.

First of all, why so many civilian deaths? I was only aiming at ships in port, RADAR and SAM/SSM sites, potential landing beaches and fortified bunkers. The missiles shouldn’t have come anywhere near any of your cities unless you build your installations in the town squares.

Second, how did you buy/build/maintain so many intercontinental ballistic missiles? According to the book “Russian Military Reform: 1992-2001 (http://books.google.com/books?id=XLlFZykzMrIC&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=Topol-M+million&source=bl&ots=qF8RqT7_4V&sig=N08glgEqHDu-atinSM-AdqU_SEo)” each Topol-M cost between 100 and 200 million 1994 rubles, which is… about 5 to 10 million 1994 USD. Since you said your eastern compliment is 900,000 missiles alone, that’s at least 450 billion USD. That’s totally acceptable, of course, since most NS budgets are in the trillions. But also add in maintenance costs, which according to this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542151) is $4m per warhead. I know you don’t have nuclear warheads on these, but the size of the missile would still warrant the cost. So for 900k missiles the total investment so far is 450b plus 36b per year that you have maintained this stockpile. Now, the Topol-M has only been out since 1994, which means that you have had only 15-25 years to produce them, depending on what time you define as MT. The USSR at its height could produce about 10k similar but cruder missiles a year max; Russia can only make 6-7 Topol-Ms/year right now. You’re larger and more developed, but this is also more advanced technology, so let’s say you can produce at most 30k missiles per year, likely less. You would need a minimum of 30 years to build 900,000 at that rate. That also assumes that you are devoting a huge chunk of your annual budget to the production of ICBMs every single year for the last three decades. All of this is for your eastern coast only, too.

Now, let’s assume that it is possible to buy/build/maintain all of these. How did they get their cluster munition warheads? If we go by the fluid timescale you said we were in the IC post, the declaration of non-nuclear warfare was only made yesterday. You would have to contract, design, fabricate and retrofit at minimum 900,000 specialty warheads to not only hold the cluster munitions, but also to survive re-entry and the subsequent atmospheric dive, surely an impossible task in a single day. Even if we assume that three weeks have passed, as in real time, that would be an unheard of accomplishment. If, however, you built the missiles from the start to have these warheads, you could do it, but it’s hard to believe that any nation would devote so much time and effort to non-nuclear weaponry, since it would leave you without any deterrents at all.

Last, firing ICBMs at another nation is a really bad idea. Just like with the Haven situation, I don’t have any way of knowing what’s in those missiles. It would certainly prompt a massive nuclear strike from myself and Gholgoth, which would essentially stop the RP, something I pray neither of us wants.

Ah, I usually have either two modes of thinking; one, I'm the overlord and I can't die so I take relatively small numbers of casualties [typically happens when I fight my eternal enemy Siberian Natives, my puppet], or two I'm the underdog and I'm getting screwed over. Here, it's the second, so my men and equipment are dropping like flies.

On civilians, while you did target only military targets, like you said the military targets are very close to or in civilian areas. Using the most dishonourable tactic of using civilians as a moral shield, I gain the ability to condemn you in IC in exchange for civilian deaths. And since my population centres are so densely packed, one apartment tower toppled may kill well over ten thousand people.

I thought about the Topol-M thing, and searched up a bunch of random missiles before I decided to just use the Topol-M as I usually do. To address your concern, I will stress that while I do maintain an utterly massive nuclear stockpile , I do also maintain a large stockpile of non-nuclear weapons for the possibility of invasion, as is happening now, and thus maintain a large missile defence. In regards to the date of invention and creation, I would say that because of the history of my country I invented it earlier and mass-produced it as well, so a few score missiles could be produced a day. So, it's not [I]impossible, just highly, highly improbable and impractical. And while as I said I do maintain over a million defensive missiles, I keep even more nuclear missiles off-line in hidden underground silos. They're just sitting in the ground right now.

As for the launching, the trajectory of the missiles launched some few hundred kilometres is very different from the trajectory of missiles launched thousands of kilometres. That said, I probably can't even reach Gholgoth, and as such Gholgoth need not be worried. Think of the missiles as skimming [or floating] a kilometre in the air, as a low-altitude missile instead of a long-range one.

If it's still objectionable, I can change it to an air strike by Tupolevs or a normal cruise missile strike. I mean, while I'll still be taking heavy casualties, I'm not going to stand idly by and watch as your fleet blockades and attacks me. :p

Aha! You said "the" ODECON! Somebody else does it too!

I'm waiting and busy at the same time.

Gah! It's ODECON, not "the ODECON!" Would you say, "the NATO?" No!

Yeah, I actually do say "the NATO." :P

Pretty Good Dawoad! ;)


Ritian do you want to make peace instead? I have some very favorable terms that you will love. After all I don't actually want to anex your nation. That was just a scare tatic.


Whiskeasy, you do relise that all of IFA + me and others would attack you should you do something stupid with Fiction right?


Sorry, was on vacation. Hmm. Maybe I'll make peace..... it depends.

Edit: Leistung still hasn't said anything about my dramatic side-switching for him.

Edit2: Fighter, honestly, you would never be able to annex my nation. We're both so dang big, and with my military culture built up upon a 4000 year old nation (basically, it was a group of tribes for 3000 or so, and a unified empire for a 1000, then it turned into what it is now and continued into the modern era) I would be able to pull out a 15-million man army. Much larger then your invasion force. Also, with the surprise of my Kakaru tanks your soldiers would have inevitably gotten......

Damn it, GWO, you threaten Urutapu but refuse to post even after I got rid of nuclear munitions.

As for the launching, the trajectory of the missiles launched some few hundred kilometres is very different from the trajectory of missiles launched thousands of kilometres. Think of the missiles as skimming [or floating] a kilometre in the air, as a low-altitude missile instead of a long-range one.

Eh, I’m afraid that’s not really possible. ICBMs need a vertical launch surface to fire, not only because of how they are built but because of the stressed put on the launch platform. You could use a mobile erector as sort of a launch “ramp” but the blast would probably tip the thing over. Of course, purpose-built launch pads would solve this. But even then, these kind of missiles are not meant for high-speed travel through dense atmosphere, such as would be found at sea level or thereabouts. They would tear themselves apart. And since they have no wings, they can’t behave like cruise missiles and would just plummet into the sea.

That said, I probably can't even reach Gholgoth, and as such Gholgoth need not be worried.

Gholgoth isn’t like Haven, it’s not just a region. It’s also an alliance. Hence, using nuclear weapons on any part of any memberstate or its constituents would be more than enough to allow a full retaliation on their part. The only reason they aren’t already involved in this conflict is they CBA and I haven’t asked them to.

If it's still objectionable, I can change it to an air strike by Tupolevs or a normal cruise missile strike.

Well, it would probably be better for both of us realism-wise if you changed it to something else, but I won’t force you to.

I mean, while I'll still be taking heavy casualties, I'm not going to stand idly by and watch as your fleet blockades and attacks me.

Ha, yeah. I fully agree that there needs to be resistance. RP is usually about the story, and no story is any good without conflict.

I'll change it to cruise missiles, then, as I believe your points are legitimate. Do you think cluster munitions are still acceptable, though?

Absolutely. I'd like it if you could describe the payloads, though, so I know what's coming at me.

So, since I'm too lazy to design a real missile, I sent 500,000 cruise missiles instead of ICBMs [more cruise missiles since they're cheaper and smaller], each missile either carrying three 150 kg cluster munitions with a bunch of metal fragments of 450 kg of high explosives [fuel air munition].

500,000 cruise missles?! Overkill much?

he does own all of Asia a decent chunk of Europe, Alaska,etc
/sarcasm off

sorry about ignoring our little war, working on IC response

So, since ground battles are more epic, I sent 500,000 Communist soldiers and commissars shouting revolutionary cries to inspire their soldiers as they advance through the beachheads, each carrying an AK-101 and a bunch of grenades or anti-tank weaponry

I really wish you have posted this instead, Stok.

I should have, but that wouldn't really do anything against a blockading fleet. They charge to the edge of the beach...and then? A lightning storm kills everyone in the sea. The end.

Missile spam truly is boring, though. "I LANCH 500 MISSLS POST LOSSES" and then "I LOST A MAN I LAUNH 30000 MISSILS POST LOSSES" et cetera.

I'll change it to cruise missiles, then, as I believe your points are legitimate. Do you think cluster munitions are still acceptable, though?

I am using cluster munitions against Chazakain, now my navy is no longer in the fight! (thank God, they (Korintari Navy) suck) Thus my airforce and natikodi (space force/special ops- equal match to PMT Ralkovian Death Guards) will face Chazakain. Btw, defenders are aircraft, just thought you should know, as are the transports- however, because of their immense size, they don't fly as high.

natikodi (space force/special ops- equal match to PMT Ralkovian Death Guards)

I don't suppose you could tell me about these folks, just out of interest...

elite Korintari special forces. They have highly advanced weaponry (including Omega-3 rifles which have the capacity to fire positron munitions, which are able to level a city- bunker buster bullets). Their attacks are very targetted to minimize casualties. @ 2.5 million strong, they are numerous enough to tangle with the Death Guards. Natikodi are generally trained to the highest degree in multiple martial arts and can turn anything into a lethal weapon. Advanced exoskeleton systems allow them to communicate telepathically and also permit super human strength, speed, and agility. They can instantaneously decode any enemy missive so they are always on top of the game and can defeat most armies. Their main bases are located in earth orbit and under the moon's surface. Needless to say they are beyond MT range by about 100 yrs, so they are PMT. It would take an exceptionally powerful MT army and airforce to defeat them, also needless to say. They also work on black ops projects to bring our military into the future- however I do not think the militias will ever lay down their swords for they are too tied up into the militia culture.

They are the super elite guard force of the old Ralkovian Empire. Men trianed and brainwashed from birth to believe their immortal, and most likely pumped with drugs and other techiquences that make them less able to feel pain or remost. Their heavily armored units and loyal as hell to the Ralkovian G-d and to each other. Other then that their noting special then say GWO Storm Troopers or my Special Elite Forces.



Of Coruse considering that Ralkovia just handed over control of his military to a forgein power, he not longer controls them. So you have to ask the guy who more or else took him over.

I still can't believe Ralk just handed over his millitary to troc lol oh well.

Apparently I might be facing a remnant of the Death Guard in Chazakain, but they seem to be out of action for a while. I'm not too worried for I can handle them if Chazakain Rps them the same way Ralk does.

Apparently I might be facing a remnant of the Death Guard in Chazakain, but they seem to be out of action for a while. I'm not too worried for I can handle them if Chazakain Rps them the same way Ralk does.

I dunno Ralk Rps them fairly well and Depending on the numbers of death guards you may be in for some trouble

Just how large is the Death Guard force in total? I have 2.5 million natikodi which are quite formidable adversaries. The commander in chief for my country, if you question her abilities as a commander, she will demand to fight you personally.

Just how large is the Death Guard force in total? I have 2.5 million natikodi which are quite formidable adversaries. The commander in chief for my country, if you question her abilities as a commander, she will demand to fight you personally.

oooo now that sounds fun! and I honestly don't know its in transition now (according to Ralk). Just for the record I like Rp'ing with Ralk and such but IC'ly we are not tied in any way.

Yeah Cheri Konstado, besides being a voluptuous 20 on a scale of 1-10, is the best of the best as far as fighters are in the country. There was one that was an equal to her, but we executed him and she has his job now.

Yeah Cheri Konstado, besides being a voluptuous 20 on a scale of 1-10, is the best of the best as far as fighters are in the country. There was one that was an equal to her, but we executed him and she has his job now.

lol nice we should arrange some sort of combat at some point. Her and Admiral Hawk (Naval CIC of the ASDN) would make a pretty good matchup lol

Sorry I've been away guy's. Had to work, which is more important than the internetz unfortunatley. If anyone can give me any updates on the stats so far I'll update the thread. Thanks!

lol nice we should arrange some sort of combat at some point. Her and Admiral Hawk (Naval CIC of the ASDN) would make a pretty good matchup lol

That sounds interesting...whose side are you on, btw? I have entered on Stok's side (although Korintar may have designs on some of its more, um, troublesome allies (namely any Stalinist/Maoist/Hoxhaist type regime);))

Sorry I've been away guy's. Had to work, which is more important than the internetz unfortunatley. If anyone can give me any updates on the stats so far I'll update the thread. Thanks!

Welcome back :)

Welcome back :)

Y thank u.

Also, I backtracked a way through the OOC thread and didn't find anything I needed to update. So if I'm wrong, go ahead and post again what you need added to the main page of this thread and I'll gladly do it.

I'm back I thought this war was over already. I will RP the death guard if Chazakain asks me too.

umm....not really anything else. Just call me when you need me.

And Korintar, my death guard grand master can completely and utterly kick Konstado's ass. He was trained by Chuck Norris and Jackie Chan. No really, I named his trainers Chuck Norris and Jackie Chan. But anyway my death guard grandmaster can bring her to the floor in the matter of minutes.

anag
this never went anywhere
-Rithic Revenge(CLOSED, Stok-GWO war)(Chazakain Kingdom)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Rithian, Chazakain, possibly others

I'm back I thought this war was over already. I will RP the death guard if Chazakain asks me too.

umm....not really anything else. Just call me when you need me.

And Korintar, my death guard grand master can completely and utterly kick Konstado's ass. He was trained by Chuck Norris and Jackie Chan. No really, I named his trainers Chuck Norris and Jackie Chan. But anyway my death guard grandmaster can bring her to the floor in the matter of minutes.

Invoking Norris and Chan, well let me tell you a little about (kensei/Grand Master) Konstado's background (she is 35 yrs old, for referrence):

entered into Kyokushin Karate at age three- attained black belt within five years. She is now a ninth Dan
25 yrs experience in pankration (not that sissy MMA stuff, but, instead no holds barred)
20 yrs experience in Catch style wrestling
30 yrs experience in kendo and Iaido

6' 1.5" tall and 235 lbs with a body composition of 10% body fat (When you realize she is more ripped than either of those two, you can use your imagination where that body fat lies), she is a very strong woman. Her education had the severity of Spartan male education, so she can handle anything thrown at her. Btw, question her like that and she will show you why she's regarded as the toughest (bad word) in all of Korintar.

In Third Spanish States, there are only 300 Blackguards, because they are truly an elite force. Remember, the more numberful a special force is relative to total population, the least its average soldier skill will be.

That sounds interesting...whose side are you on, btw? I have entered on Stok's side (although Korintar may have designs on some of its more, um, troublesome allies (namely any Stalinist/Maoist/Hoxhaist type regime);))

lol Im with Stock. . .technically at least. I'm pretty much neutral for now. I'm a member of the Hegemony which is my only tie to this at all.

Your pitiful lives and wars mean nothing to the Technonauts.
You may fight but in the end resistance is futile, prepare to be assimilated.

In other words time to lighten some things up:)

This isn't an FT war.

It isn't much of anything at the moment..

I found the official video for how my death guard look and act like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qXXSmlFvNs&NR=1

Invoking Norris and Chan, well let me tell you a little about (kensei/Grand Master) Konstado's background (she is 35 yrs old, for referrence):

entered into Kyokushin Karate at age three- attained black belt within five years. She is now a ninth Dan
25 yrs experience in pankration (not that sissy MMA stuff, but, instead no holds barred)
20 yrs experience in Catch style wrestling
30 yrs experience in kendo and Iaido

6' 1.5" tall and 235 lbs with a body composition of 10% body fat (When you realize she is more ripped than either of those two, you can use your imagination where that body fat lies), she is a very strong woman. Her education had the severity of Spartan male education, so she can handle anything thrown at her. Btw, question her like that and she will show you why she's regarded as the toughest (bad word) in all of Korintar.

Ghost (the ASD's top man) experience
0 yrs experience in pankration (not that sissy MMA stuff, but, instead no holds barred)
0 yrs experience in Catch style wrestling
0 yrs experience in kendo and Iaido
15 years Sniping

Armament,
1 high powered sniper system

result= always always bring a gun to a gun fight . . .or when you wanna off two potential enemies while they mess around with hand to hand lol.
"If you wanna look into their eyes while they die buy yourself a really good scope"(Ghost)

In Third Spanish States, there are only 300 Blackguards, because they are truly an elite force. Remember, the more numberful a special force is relative to total population, the least its average soldier skill will be.

That makes sense, because the natikodov elite commanders (the Visser 10s) make up .1% of 1% natikodov, and the natikodi themselves only make up .125% of the total Korintari population, at full mobilization. At peace time, only .01% natikodov are mobilized at any given time, on a rotational basis, so everyone of them is battle ready. Also, Ralkovia, I do not think Korintari soldiers would be too scared of the Death Guards, even if they suffer heavy casualties.

I found the official video for how my death guard look and act like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qXXSmlFvNs&NR=1

helghan soliders hey

YES HELGHAST RULES!!!!

Also TSS that's not really true, what your thinking of is a heavily romanticized version of war where a small team of operatives can take on overwhelming numbers of enemy troops. While it is true that often teams of highly trained people can go against the odds and defeat a large number of unskilled troops this only holds in when fighting against 3rd world countries troops, militia's, and video games.

Commando's, green beret, etc. aren't put on the front lines and told to charge the enemy. The master chief can't really destroy an entire covenant army. A small group of rebels can't really defeat the death star. And a few rebels can't miraculously survive as hundreds of clone troopers miss epicly.

The perception of Good always beats Evil often corrupts how a movie, game, and history plays out. A perfect example of this is in star wars, in the clone wars the clones were good and therefore they would always beat the droids. But in the Empire strikes back and new hope and subsequent films of after revenge of the sith it seems that the Jedi and rebels beat the clones easily and the clones, trained since birth in war, can't shoot anything anymore.

In reality, millions of factors govern whether what is perceived as good wins or what is perceived as evil wins. The winner of course says his enemy is evil. When a good guy does something bad he says it is necessary when the 'bad guy' does something bad it is seen as a massacre, etc.

But I digress, in reality training/preparation/skill does not account for much. Look at how the finnish defeated a lot of russians. Neither do numbers(same example) What really counts is a mix of all of these different factors. Morale, reinforcement, supplies, strength, leadership, etc. etc. etc. My death guard are efficient because not only is their morale extremely high(they believe they are fighting for their G-d) but they are all trained since birth(up until the age of seven they are nurtured but experience films, etc. to whack them up on what is right and wrong and to teach them that the Emperor is G-d, mommy, daddy, and the caregiver. In fact the nurseries in which young death guard are trained in, the nurses, etc. wear the mask of the Emperor)

The death guard are trained and lead by first rate commanders, that rival napoleon, rommel, etc. The Death guard are given the best supplies. They are pretty much Samurai of the modern era, but with a hint of many many other cultures. [I model my government after feudal japan but with other influences]

That is why my death guard even if they are large in number are not the least bit lacking in skill. Each death guard has the same training as any normal special trooper.

When you say lack of numbers means that your troops are highly elite that is not true. The perception of this probably comes from the fact that because their are fewer soldiers they get more training and can spend more time fighting, thus they become extremely elite. This view is somewhat naive. As what you may or may not be thinking would entitle the U.S. Coast Guard to be better than the Marines.

My ability to support death guard as massive scale special troops comes from the fact that I have several countries that have invested into me there experts, their trainers, their generals, and in one case a massive amount of money. My death guard individually are just as good if not greater than the natikodov or black guard. My death guard receive training everyday of their lives[after 7 years] until the age of 21 in which they actually go out and fight but even after the age of 21 death guard will be switched out to the reserves every few years and spend their time training.

Someone once said,"Is there such a thing as a lazy death guard?" My answer was a "no." Death guard spend their entire lives serving the Emperor. Death guard who have aged past their prime are put in logistic positions or as teachers or on-field commanders. But they never entirely leave the battlefield.

[However death guard aren't always trained since birth. Most of my police force is death guard but they aren't trained since birth or trained for 10 years. The death guard have a frightening aura around them that pretty much stops crime in its place. It can best be described as how when a police car gets on the highway a traffic jam always happens behind him.]

Should Korintarian troops ever fight the death guard they would be very very scared. The death guard do not understand the concept of peace or mercy. They are brutal even in death,(many carry a booby trap grenade in which if the enemy moves them the grenade goes off. It causes many casualties on both sides and to scavengers.) Death guard by themselves are just highly trained special forces and nothing really to be scared of but what happens is during and after the battle the death guard do horrible things that are so brutal that it would take me an entire day to post what they do. They just are horrible beasts of war who will mutilate the enemy.

They develop an almost horror movie monster likeness in the enemy that they subsequently retreat. Death guard units being placed on the battlefield in front of the enemy have a distinct side effect that I have learned about after RPing with them several times on several different sites. I like to call it Fear Sickness. It effects how player actually act and behave on RPs. In several cases people have just quit, whined about them, or stopped trying to fight me.

Death guard make war into real hell. They are brutal highly skilled units of what could only be described as beasts or creatures since they don't have any humanity to them. So yes death guard could number 100 or 100 million and they would still be highly elite troops. However their is a distinct difference in how players will Rp 100 soldiers to 100 million. People are much more conservative and try to push much much more for a sort of G-dmode when they only have a few of the units. The beauty of the death guard is that while I have many of them they are all still highly trained though I do use them sparingly usually deploying a single legion(10,000) to a country. Death Guard have a standard kill ratio of about 1 to 30 in long range combat, 1 to 20 in medium range combat, and short range varies according to legion number, training courses, etc.

This is what pisses people like Whiskeasy off about your description of the Death Guard. Describe their flaws, not just their strengths!
Also, an army that 'doesn't know the concept of peace or mercy' is an army that doesn't take prisoners, which inspires desperation more often than fear. Armies that take prisoners do better than armies that don't - for instance, German armies that never would've surrendered against the Soviets surrendered easily to the Western Allies, even though they were up against less troops in the West than in the East, which helps explain the sheer speed of the Western advance (less than one year from landing in France to arrival at the Elbe) when compared to the Eastern advance.
Plus, only some commanders will be 'first-rate' - realistically, there's only so much that can be done to improve the skills of commanders, so you're likely to have a good number of lousy leaders.
Also, your emperor had to sign away his country as a protectorate, plus, your Death Guard is split. So you should be suffering from unexpectedly lowered morale? There's a very good reason why so many Japanese officers tried to commit suicide when the Emperor surrendered.

Finally, RP should be about a good story, not necessarily about 'winning.' In other words, sometimes, for the sake of the story, 'good guys' win when they shouldn't - enemy commanders grow overconfident, or the enemy runs out of ammo, or the troops who should've been blocking friendly reinforcements never get the order.

Sorry for the rant...

Thank you so much DC for doing what I couldn't without flaming. Thank you again.