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We're doing everything we can to prevent a retcon

Im not retconning anything.

I will lose a city somewhere in my nation. I'm just waiting for SS to see how he wishes to proceed, and continue from there.

dose any one reall when GWO was on ?

It's not a Retcon people. Any Stoky forces involved in any RP are to be moved around somehow. Afterward, the war will continue against original participants.

I REPEATE

NO RETCON

We can go from there if you want SS

Actually, yeah, I'd rather go from there.
I'll post a new thread.

Yes. No WMD's sounds good to me.

Mmkay, so from where I said, and with an OOC Agreement for no WMDs.
Correct?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14359778#post14359778

New thread up.

Mmkay, so from where I said, and with an OOC Agreement for no WMDs.
Correct?

Yes, I don't think Stoklo had any actual forces in the area so we don't have to worry about dealing with the "move" and such. IC post coming soon.

Posted this back on 31 but things happened so here it is again Anagonia.

"Anagonia would you mind terribly if I sent some men to assist in the war in your department\theater? I feel I owe you something for last time or at least uphold a certain quasi treaty and maybe add a new shine to Waldenburg's international relations? I'm very bored waiting for our regional war to peak. And it would be nothing major 1-200,000 men with supporting naval and air squadrons."

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14359778#post14359778

New thread up.

Added. Thanks!

Posted this back on 31 but things happened so here it is again Anagonia.

"Anagonia would you mind terribly if I sent some men to assist in the war in your department\theater? I feel I owe you something for last time or at least uphold a certain quasi treaty and maybe add a new shine to Waldenburg's international relations? I'm very bored waiting for our regional war to peak. And it would be nothing major 1-200,000 men with supporting naval and air squadrons."

GO AHEAD! BY ALL MEANS!

Would you like me to add you to the Anagonian Coalition or GWO Coalition?

EDIT

Sorry for missing that. Crap happened that nearly ruined the hard work EVERYONE has put into this massive Role Play. I had to act fast, so I missed a lot of stuff. Thanks to EVERYONE that helped me recover this!

Officially neither, but for the sake of clarity throw me up in favor of Anagonia. I'll get an ORBAT up sometime today.

So, Stok is still in the war, but possibly going to be nuked to shit by Haven, right?
+ are we going to RP the aftermath when we're done?

Well I still have to pick a city to lose from Stoklo's ICMB launch. I need his reply from a TG to effectively take damage and casualties.

After that anything that happens to anyone involved in this conflict will be recognized by myself and added to the annals of history

Officially neither, but for the sake of clarity throw me up in favor of Anagonia. I'll get an ORBAT up sometime today.

Okay. Lemme do that for ya.

SANS SEMMES

Yes, he's still officially involved, and we will RP the aftermath for the sake of continuing the war and avoiding a Retcon. But for caution, I have edited the original "Stoklomolvi Coalition" to "Stoklomolvi/Anagonian Coalition" just in case anything goes wrong. That way, if something does, "Anagonian Coalition" will take over and we can continue unhindered.

OOC:

Chaza, whenever you get around to it I'm sure we can keep the ball rolling until Fighter posts by doing something else.

Sorry about that, was trying to get Chazakain the movie to work(nearly done with it, should be uploaded to youtube in by late tomorrow(if these stupid problems continue maybe never :( )
Family is getting grumpy so probably won't beable to do more than one or two replies in my theater.

also where did you land? if in the north there won't really be any "dirt", its a pretty god forsaken area of ash, cooling lava and other volcano rock.

Sorry about that, was trying to get Chazakain the movie to work(nearly done with it, should be uploaded to youtube in roughly half an hour:) )
Family is getting grumpy so probably won't beable to do more than one or two replies in my theater.

LOL, okay. We can wait. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOUR YOUTUBE VIDEO!

I'll place a linky in the thread, muhahaha.

Well, a shitstorm exploded while I was gone.

And no, I am not at the mercy of Haven for I do not recognise the existence of Haven in its entirety.

Well, a shitstorm exploded while I was gone.

And no, I am not at the mercy of Haven for I do not recognise the existence of Haven in its entirety.

I guess I don't have to worry about you in the Sans theatre then.

Had you used conventional weapons like my cruise missile strike on Sans and not used weapons associated with WMD's like ICBM's are you wouldn't be getting blown into molecular dust since the region wouldn't have acted.

Firing ICBMs into a region gives the entire region a legit reason to act against you, any region where ICBM's entered would be expected to do the same, maybe not in a unified manner but they would still react.

Allanea could have reacted even from a cruise missile strike because he has troops in my country but that's beside the point.

You reap what you sow and that's all I have to say.

Who knows.

GWO and me are laughing are asses off right now. Neither of us can get on at all.

GWO and me are laughing are asses off right now. Neither of us can get on at all.

*mind reads*

Your playing...HALO....HHAHA.

Anyway, yea, I know. Also your siggy has been deleted.

Really fucking A

I can't play on xbox Im on "vacation"

I can't play on xbox Im on "vacation"

Oh, okay. Well GWO is. I just assumed you two were killing each other again or something. :P

And no, I am not at the mercy of Haven for I do not recognise the existence of Haven in its entirety.

One of our members is in Haven. I used to be in Haven. Does this mean that you don't recognize us?

ADDITIONAL

Posted a post link describing how to continue the war if everything goes "badly" concerning the Haven thing.

So yea, as far as I'm concerned, this war is still a go no matter what happens.

Well GWO is mostly waiting for me and mostly trying to just play on his vacation

Leistung, I will refuse to recognise the existence of anyone currently residing in Haven.

Well GWO is mostly waiting for me and mostly trying to just play on his vacation

Ah, k. Hope you two are having a great time. Ya'll can get back to posting whenever you feel like it. We're busy here with a few theatres to keep us in line. XD

How about Stok, if you get on irc.esper.net #haven and try to iron out some of these issues with Haven? Because if you retcon all this its going to make you look awful.

How do I metagame

Leistung, I will refuse to recognise the existence of anyone currently residing in Haven.

Then we're out of the war. I'm not going to stand for someone arbitrarily ignoring one of our members.

Then we're out of the war. I'm not going to stand for someone arbitrarily ignoring one of our members.

*sighs*

I can understand this. Would you like me to take your alliance and your nation out of the list?

Leistung, you've been out of the war already.

Damn it, Unker.

Um what did I do?

How about Stok, if you get on irc.esper.net #haven and try to iron out some of these issues with Haven? Because if you retcon all this its going to make you look awful.

OOC motivations predate IC ones whenever a dogpile is intended. I doubt any agreement can be made now at this point. At least the OOC E-drama didn't scale up to the levels of the old APOC vs. Gholgoth so far.

Anyway. People should play at least once a game like Civilization 3 and see what happens when you go nuke-happy in it. I was nearly winning, but one of my foes was about to beat me in the space race. I launched ICBMs against multiple cities that spies ID'ed as the ones where the spaceship parts were being built. The entire world nuked my Civ then.

I don't particularly wish to pick up any sides in this arguing. Stok, you should really think thrice before pressing the red button. Nuclear warfare is no joke, and even though I am nearly certain OOC "let's teach him a lesson" attitude is as much of a motivation as the IC reasoning, you could have avoided this altogether by avoiding nuke-fests.

*sighs*

I can understand this. Would you like me to take your alliance and your nation out of the list?

Yeah, thanks Anagonia.

Leistung, you've been out of the war already.

Not officially, but yes, we were considering leaving for other reasons.

Yeah, thanks Anagonia.

Are there any ODECON nations that will go independent in this?

I'll get involved in this war real soon. Most likely on GWOs side since he's been talking to me about a resolution between rykaria and me. Its actually quite satisfactory.

I'll get involved in this war real soon. Most likely on GWOs side since he's been talking to me about a resolution between rykaria and me. Its actually quite satisfactory.

Alright Cool.

So let me get this straight.

Stok is retconning his ICBM launches, as is Haven. Thus I shall my EMP launches and I have no ICBMs heading my way.

Everything is as it was before the Topol-M launches?

So let me get this straight.

Stok is retconning his ICBM launches, as is Haven. Thus I shall my EMP launches and I have no ICBMs heading my way.

Everything is as it was before the Topol-M launches?

I think so. Gotta get full approval me thinks by Haven people. As far as I know everything should be going back to normal.

Are there any ODECON nations that will go independent in this?

Heh heh...not if they value their membership...

I'll let people finish things up if they're in the middle of hostilities, though.

Heh heh...not if they value their membership...

I'll let people finish things up if they're in the middle of hostilities, though.

I dearly hope you will. Me thinks that Stok might retract his statement about ODECON and stuffs, so this entire situation has been emotional for everyone. I kinda suggest we keep a cool head and wait things out. Haven has been a true hero in keeping things in order, so ya.

Heh heh...not if they value their membership...

I'll let people finish things up if they're in the middle of hostilities, though.

Well if Stok is unignoring Haven (I think)

So there's no real reason for ODECON to get out. And as for ODECON valuing soveringty but ejecting people who independantly fight for their own ideals not under the ODECON banner is hypocritical.

im on stoklomolvi's side bcuz denecaep forced me to T^T

OOC: All I did was bomb, me thinks.

Say what?

im on stoklomolvi's side bcuz denecaep forced me to T^T

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Cukarica, could I get the ORBAT for the marines your sending on the new thread please?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14359778

Ty.

Say what?

What?

what did you bomb in Chazakain?

What does Retcon stand for, anyway? ;-;

Retroactive continuity.

After some discussion, I am no longer not recognising the not non-existence of Haven. The events pertaining to Sans Semmes after my first message to Unkerlantum have been retconned. My sincere apologies.

Retcon stands for "RETroactive CONtinuity." It means, basically, that a specified event is considered to never have happened and any further history overwrites it.

Since Stok is not to be ignored, nuked or otherwise removed from existence, the evacuation of Anagonian personnel is being retconned. We are back at war! I hope that everyone sees how much effort was put into keeping this RP going and agrees to keep posting.

EDIT: Sniped by Stok! Curses!

Thanks guys.
Lol Stok, that thread was a more of a mess than the old OOC thread, lol.

Sans Semmes where are you getting the money to pay for all those fleets?

Budget cuts, big cash stockpile, and a few loans.

Also, three were paid for (IC) last year; since we do military spending once a year.

http://nstracker.jfsoftware.com/index.php?nation=Sans+Semmes
(It's pretty good to base your economy off, though I'm not saying that that IS your exact economy, GDP or budget)
Loans are fair, but you still need to build the ships, which, especially for that many, takes a shit load of time. But eh, it's up to Unker, it's just been bothering me a bit.

EDIT: Okay, thats three fleets accounted for...

(Sorry, that should be September '07. Still thinking in 08 terms, lol.)

Another fleet was bought during tensions between me and a breakaway region (which we now still control) in Early '08, and the 5th fleet was being finished when you invaded.

I wank by saying I don't pay my people. Which is true.

In the interest of not wanting to argue, have more issues, and the like I'm not going to complain about it.

I will say that by having such a developed navy I won't be expecting you to afford and have top notch air force and ground units as well.

I remember when I was new and anytime I tried having a "decent" force just to be able to compete at all with other rpers how annoying it was to have people complain about "Your NST budget is only ____" thus making me inferior and blocking me from being able to participate in rp's.

I think a war rp on this scale involving so many different nations is interesting and if newer nations want to be involved they should be allowed to, and be welcomed by the more senior nations participating not shunned away because they don't have the 35+ trillion dollar defense budgets we do.

Further my equipment is still in some areas well above what SS has but things will still be interesting and I think it will be a decent rp. I could just be boring and deploy some SD's and obliterate everything in a few missle spam/massive cannon salvos and land like three million troops but that would be boring.

Also, Buddha, please be reminded that this is basically my entire navy minus the stuff you didn't blow up, so. =/

Sans I am working on my next IC post right now, preoccupied with COD 5 at the moment

Mmkay. x)

what did you bomb in Chazakain?

I didn't Bomb anything to my recollection. Perhaps I made a typo?

Sans are your ships docked or at sea?

They're at the mouth of the harbour, which is the safest place for us to be.
Just so you know, we won't attack unless you do. So we can either sit here, or you can attack. ;D

And as for ODECON valuing soveringty but ejecting people who independantly fight for their own ideals not under the ODECON banner is hypocritical.

...did you actually read my post?

Anyways, Unk, why are you attacking SS, exactly?

He doesn't have a casus belli.

...did you actually read my post?

Anyways, Unk, why are you attacking SS, exactly?

If ODECON want's back in, they're more than welcome. However as of present, they are not involved any longer expect those still involved in the war and wishing to participate. I welcome all ODECON members to continue to post in all threads, including this OOC one! :D

Anagonia how many theatres are actually operational

Anagonia how many theatres are actually operational

Five currently that have active posters.

If ODECON want's back in, they're more than welcome. However as of present, they are not involved any longer expect those still involved in the war and wishing to participate. I welcome all ODECON members to continue to post in all threads, including this OOC one! :D

Ha! You think you can get invaded and not let me get in on it?! Think again! :D

Ha! You think you can get invaded and not let me get in on it?! Think again! :D

WOOHOO! So....want me to put you back in the list? And keep ODECON Out? GET ON MSN DANGIT!

Contact me because I forgot your username XD

This war stayed as a cold war to long and most of us are going back to school now

This war stayed as a cold war to long and most of us are going back to school now

The Beauty of it is that it'll stay active so long as someone posts here and there. And if you got school, there's always an hour to catch up and post at least in one thread. This isn't something that is over your IRL duties, as IRL comes first. It's just a pastime, and supposed to be fun!

Of course im just saying that things are going to slow down

Of course im just saying that things are going to slow down

Oh come now, we'll just sacrifice you to Reploid Productions, Melkor Unchained, or some other Mod to appease the Power's that Be and pretend your death sparks some activity.

Sounds good?

EDIT

I was just joking...you know that, right?

@ Cukarica, and Heirosoloa I am assuming you will be joining the SS fleets in the harbor to form some super fleet?

Nope,im gonna hit you with a rock when you're not looking ^^

lol okay then.

Waiting on Sans to reject my last offer, and then exploit a..... No I can't give it away, you shall see soon enough. *evil laugh*

I also have to wait and see if Heirlo is putting his ships in harbor or not.

lol okay then.

Waiting on Sans to reject my last offer, and then exploit a..... No I can't give it away, you shall see soon enough. *evil laugh*

I also have to wait and see if Heirlo is putting his ships in harbor or not.

....attack me with some moar Cruise Missiles seeing as we're so close to the city? Yeah, I kinda figured that. Hence the big air raids, y'know?

Anyways, Unk, why are you attacking SS, exactly?

We hold the exact recipe for Coca-Cola.
Yep.
That's right.
Some fucking Socialist country has the recipe for Coca-Cola.
Ironic, amirite?

Ah well now I am the attackee..yay for moral high ground.

Yes sir, have fun with getting depth charged every time you try to fire cluster bombs at us. ;D

We hold the exact recipe for Coca-Cola.
Yep.
That's right.
Some fucking Socialist country has the recipe for Coca-Cola.
Ironic, amirite?

I annex you for Coca Cola recipe! :D

NEVURRR!

-points n00ks, which, by the way, are 21481024192048123590180x more powerful than normal nukes, also, they can't be shot down. Did I mention that they also frazzle all of your electronics? Oh, and also, they destroy every single ship and thing you have because they can fire mini-nukes, which also can't be shot down.-

Definitely not godmoding.

You know there is a reason why Coca Cola has the word "classic" on the label right?

NEVURRR!

-points n00ks, which, by the way, are 21481024192048123590180x more powerful than normal nukes, also, they can't be shot down. Did I mention that they also frazzle all of your electronics? Oh, and also, they destroy every single ship and thing you have because they can fire mini-nukes, which also can't be shot down.-

Definitely not godmoding.

M-M-M-M-M-MONSTER KILL-Kill-kill

M-M-M-M-M-MONSTER KILL-Kill-kill

No need Annie. I have lightly introduced Sans to a staple of NS naval warfare known as the missile spam.

No need Annie. I have lightly introduced Sans to a staple of NS naval warfare known as the missile spam.

Stoooooop...we don't need any more missile spammers...

Unker, go away before I FOAB you into nothing.

Aha, I'll just start using nothing but FOABs for bombs. No more nukes. :P

24 Frigates
15 Destroyers
12 Cruisers
Also Sans Semmes i think you are a little over estimating your loses

Unker, go away before I FOAB you into nothing.

Aha, I'll just start using nothing but FOABs for bombs. No more nukes. :P

You can try to if you want. I'll have a suprise for your bombers when they start arriving.

@ Sans
When did you get Sea Pikes? I worked out a deal with AMI to provide my naval munitions so I don't have to make individual orders over and over again DPR's are nice.

I'll go back through and find the tg's I saved them on my computer if i absolutely have to.

And how are you getting planes over my fleet 3500km's away from you when I have combat air patrols going over my fleet in shifts of four hour intervals?

I'll respond to your RUM-139 Vertical Launch missiles right now if you'd like. Are you targeting the subs left on the flanks or the ones still back in my fleet?

and no I haven't fired anything at your aircraft that attacked and destroyed half of my advance forces since they aren't in range of my surface-to-air missiles. And I'm keeping my aircraft near me for defensive measures. I can also respond to your harpoon strikes.

If anyone plans to attack Cukarica, please note that the C. of DC now owns and operates three shipyards in Cukarica, located in Paxi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paxi) (Paxos), Kérkira (Corfu) and Préveza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preveza_Prefecture). Any accidental attacks will result in immediate cancellation of current orders and seizure of undelivered orders for auction; any intentional attacks (that is, attacks directly targeting the shipyards, with intent to damage or destroy them, or the arms being built there) will also result in a ban on sales to you or your alliance for the duration of the conflict, and in potential lifetime bans from other storefronts (depending on how willing they are to tolerate a country that attacked a fellow storefront). We're forgiving, but others may not be.

This policy will stand for any shipyards or factories we own.

If anyone plans to attack Cukarica, please note that the C. of DC now owns and operates three shipyards in Cukarica, located in Paxi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paxi) (Paxos), Kérkira (Corfu) and Préveza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preveza_Prefecture). Any accidental attacks will result in immediate cancellation of current orders and seizure of undelivered orders for auction; any intentional attacks (that is, attacks directly targeting the shipyards, with intent to damage or destroy them, or the arms being built there) will also result in a ban on sales to you or your alliance for the duration of the conflict, and in potential lifetime bans from other storefronts (depending on how willing they are to tolerate a country that attacked a fellow storefront). We're forgiving, but others may not be.

This policy will stand for any shipyards or factories we own.

If those shipyards are supplying Cukarica with supplies, refitting damaged ships, or anything like that then they would be legitimate military targets if not then I wouldn't target them but that's just me.

They're just starting to build new ships for Cukarica. The Corfu facility is building new battleships, cruisers, and aircraft carriers; the Paxos and Préveza facilities are building new destroyers. Currently, hulls are just starting to be laid down.

Regardless of whether or not they are legitimate military targets, they are our facilities. If they're attacked, we would demand compensation if seizure of undelivered orders and cancellation of (delivery of) current orders will not suffice.

Well if it was me you'd just have to take chalk it up as a loss. If I were attacking someone I wouldn't grant immunity to places within my enemies territory supplying them with war materials.

I might try inserting airborne teams or special forces units to capture the facilities instead of destroying themOr if possible block supplies from reaching the facilities and thus halting their production. Or issue an ultimatum for you to halt production or face destruction of the facilities. I'd even let you evacuate workers etc etc.

But if that failed then more than likely I would cruise missile strike them into oblivion.

And you can land your bombers stok, my satellites will see them being unloaded and moved though. I'll definately notice shipping type crates or anything else big enough to carry a 49.50m long and 51.10 m wide aircraft. I'd love to know how you got them into the hull of a ship really but oh well. They would be massive, unless you plan on assembling them or something?

Unker, you know what a supertanker is? Some at least 60m beam length and hundreds of m long? Yup. The planes are stacked on top of each other in steel crates.

And Fictions, you launched a nuke. Permission to glass from Anagonia and Kar will be pending.

I did not, had you read MY post, you would have known that it was NOT a nuke

The whole idea was that it would be mistaken for a nuke, as I said several times, My nation does not OWN or MAKE nukes, so if that is the case it would be impossible for me to launch one. It is NOT a nuke, The whole scene, everything that happened from that point on was an agreement between me and whiskeasy. I would launch a standard missile to be mistaken for a nuke, Whiskeasy would nuke me in retaliation, do a hiroshima. No intervention is deemed necessary as for me, this tactic is the only way to get my people to surrender, and surrender they shall. For Fictions, the war is over, but the struggle had just begun.

The agreement being that it would be done well, and as realistic a our abilities can manage, and that only a single nuke would be fired.

That's how I felt.

Nobody would know that it's not a nuke hu hu hu

Is what happened understood?

Yes, I understand, but how am I supposed to know in IC that your country didn't produce a nuke during the war?

Unker, you know what a supertanker is? Some at least 60m beam length and hundreds of m long? Yup. The planes are stacked on top of each other in steel crates.

And Fictions, you launched a nuke. Permission to glass from Anagonia and Kar will be pending.

Yes I know what a supertanker is and using false colors on your ships...shameful.

Yes, I understand, but how am I supposed to know in IC that your country didn't produce a nuke during the war?

You can't... wait did you plan on attacking me ICly before confirming the actions which, i should think, would seem very out of character fro someone who strongly protests against the casual use of nuclear weapons...

Stoooooop...we don't need any more missile spammers...

Well I really have no choice, I decided not to deploy things like SD's and use their massive cannons and all that for an epic naval battle. Instead I have a large assembly of ships in a confined space which is now littered with sinking and sunk or damaged ships thus further confining them.

The only logical attack would be to missile spam since he is close enough to his land to use his airforce and gaining air superiority at this point would be nearly impossible on my part.

Unker, shame comes from allowing your ally to be defeated while standing around.

Fictions, that doesn't matter. We're at war.

Actually, I'm surrendering, but the point is taken

One ICBM? One is rather easy to shoot down...

Just consider it shot down by Anagonian Orbital Defenses people.

AND FOR THE LOVE OF EARTH, STOP LAUNCHING ICBM'S!

Lol

look, it's been done. And that is all.

TPF, it's a casus belli regardless of what you say.

Okay guy's, Stoklomolvi, Fictions told me about the plan earlier. I understand now. Wiskeasy is allowed to launch said weapon per mutual agreement, so it's not a violation of the treaty specifically. So calm down, it's THEIR RP Stoky, and if they agreed to it they can do it together.

The whole idea was that it would be mistaken for a nuke, as I said several times, My nation does not OWN or MAKE nukes, so if that is the case it would be impossible for me to launch one. It is NOT a nuke, The whole scene, everything that happened from that point on was an agreement between me and whiskeasy. I would launch a standard missile to be mistaken for a nuke, Whiskeasy would nuke me in retaliation, do a hiroshima. No intervention is deemed necessary as for me, this tactic is the only way to get my people to surrender, and surrender they shall. For Fictions, the war is over, but the struggle had just begun.


And my death guard will still be in your country....EATENZ YOUR CONQUERORZ

Unker, shame comes from allowing your ally to be defeated while standing around.

Fictions, that doesn't matter. We're at war.

I have allies on both sides of the conflict which keeps me out of the main theatres for the most part. Really I should be in my own category since the only nations I am getting involved with are not part of either major side.

I'm behaving more like an opportunistic predator and using the conflict as pretext to go after some soft targets. Incidentally Fictions falling to invaders neither hurts nor benefits me.

Coincidentally when other nations deploy forces to intervene they indirectly cause me to assist one side or the other by drawing forces and materials away from the larger campaign areas.

The direct alliance I belong to is the CSS, and I have committed no actions claiming to be under the CSS banner. I would be in ODECON as well but either my application was looked over or rejected, never got an answer on that. Following that I decided to enter othe conflict being opportunistic and seeking some small outpost positions which I will need as my nation grows. Im not trying to fully annex anyone simply beat them over the head until they accept a treaty allowing the construction of a military base on their soil.

Unker, because you seek to oppress my allies, I will fight you 'till I die. Annie is large enough so that he can squash TPF and a bit more. I will NEVER accept any treaty granting foreign use of anything whatsoever. Except embassies. Though embassies I consider to be my home ground anyway.

When did you get Sea Pikes? I worked out a deal with AMI to provide my naval munitions so I don't have to make individual orders over and over again DPR's are nice.

Did I say Sea Pikes? Must have been a mistype, will go edit.
I'll go through the whole thing again. Had been awake for about half an hour when i posted that IC post.

Mmkay, reposted with edits. Respond to what you can.

Unker, because you seek to oppress my allies, I will fight you 'till I die. Annie is large enough so that he can squash TPF and a bit more. I will NEVER accept any treaty granting foreign use of anything whatsoever. Except embassies. Though embassies I consider to be my home ground anyway.

Thats a shame because the treaty wouldn't involve you.

You and I could go at it for nearly eternity in a cold,hot,cold hot war scenario if you like.

However I don't think Sans Semme's economy, military, or people can nor do I think they would be willing to. And I have confidence TPF will be just fine.

And I wasn't trying to opress anyone, like I said I'm not trying to annex anyone, if I wanted to do that I would have sent SD's and the like and I would be blasting entire cities into rubble. My only civilian attack is regretabble but was necessary.

@ Sans should I assume your firing 2000 harpoon type anti-ship missiles at me?

Also Sans Semmes you have a TG.

@ Sans should I assume your firing 2000 harpoon type anti-ship missiles at me?

Yes sir.

Loss count better now?

Yes sir.

mmk. And quick question how blocked is your harbor now with all those ships sinking, or sunk in it?

@ your loss count, I wasn't trying to be picky or say you had to increase anything I was just wondering how many exactly were damaged. I don't like waisting missiles that aren't cheap on ships that are out of action already.

Heirlo what did you use to make your map.

I know. Just wanted to make sure you were happy. ;D
@ the harbour, not really, since the attack ships are mostly all outside/close to the mouth, behind the Cruiser Shield. Only thing that's left inside is the aircraft carriers, which don't really need to move anyway.

ADDITIONS

-Cukricas' and Heirosoloa's Maps added

-Leistung put back in play.
-Whiskeasy in play.

I would be in ODECON as well but either my application was looked over or rejected, never got an answer on that.

Actually you did. Check the thread again, I addressed you in an OOC segment.

Actually you did. Check the thread again, I addressed you in an OOC segment.

I demand you get on MSN for chat time.

Actually you did. Check the thread again, I addressed you in an OOC segment.

I never got that IC explanation. Although now I have no desire to join ODECON as being in the CSS is about the same thing. Just without certain members whom I icly strongly dislike.

Not sure how important this is, but it seems there may be a new player in my theater of war very soon. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14361935&postcount=22)

also Anagonia should I just begin my bombardment of your landing beaches or what?

I was kinda hoping you'd start that already, so ya. Did I miss any edits or anything I needed to do in our thread?

Chazakain call me when you need me to help you or you can just take control of my death guard and rp with them if you want.

Chazakain call me when you need me to help you or you can just take control of my death guard and rp with them if you want.

Aye Aye(you can rp them, right now its still a local problem but once/if they break out...)

*nods*
Aye aye cap ee tawn

@ Sans

Harpoon anti-ship range= 93-315 km
RUM-139 Vertical Launch ASROC range=28km

Sea Pike range= >4,500km
Taipan range= 4,000km

My Fleet is 3500km's away, over 3000km's out of the range of your anti-ship missiles and other weapons. Just thought I'd clarify this before there was an issue.

Consider all of my advance forces sunk or out of action by the way.

D:!
Moving out.
I'd forgotten that you were 3500km away, lol.

Heiro when did I fire at you?

How are you carpet bombing me with CAP's in the air, and the like.

EDIT: NVM I see where I fired at you. And if you're south of Port Nairn you would be 1000km's within my missile's range and since you stated being south of Port Nairn puts you closer to me. Thus even more so in my missile range than Sans's forces.

ADDITIONS

Updated to reflect Fictions Surrender.

Well if it was me you'd just have to take chalk it up as a loss. If I were attacking someone I wouldn't grant immunity to places within my enemies territory supplying them with war materials.

I might try inserting airborne teams or special forces units to capture the facilities instead of destroying themOr if possible block supplies from reaching the facilities and thus halting their production. Or issue an ultimatum for you to halt production or face destruction of the facilities. I'd even let you evacuate workers etc etc.

But if that failed then more than likely I would cruise missile strike them into oblivion.

Fair enough.

Halting production would probably lead to a number of different things. If you informed us that you were planning raids to halt production, we might be tempted to foment a labor dispute or otherwise arrange for a halt in production ourselves (especially if you paid sufficient money) for the duration of the war.

A special forces raid would piss us off, and would be considered an attack. You're still attacking the facility itself, even if it's only to capture it. Heck, if you were trying to capture it straight out, we might even consider it an attempt to seize control of our shipyard by force for your own use.

An ultimatum would probably be considered, especially if you were willing to compensate our financial losses; however, we would probably end up being forced to temporarily transfer the shipyards back to Cukarica, and would definitely demand compensation in some manner (though possibly not until after the war ended...)

Cruise missile strike to oblivion would definitely be considered an intentional attack.

DC, you got any like, 3000-4500km cruise missiles for sale?

Sorry, not yet. We do have some nice high-altitude fighter-bombers, and some very nice subs.

Consider it magic :D
Ehh. I'll edit my post.
MASS DESTRUCTION OF DEFENSE FORCES.
Ohnoez.
Now I'll be angry and the like.

@ Sans okay apparently you don't understand tracking systems of my missiles.

Satellites in space are constantly relaying postions of targets to the missile as it streaks through the sky, further the missile itself has its own radar which it uses to lock on to targets, and as an additional feature they have home on jam capabilities meaning if you attempt to jam the missiles radar and tracking systems it instead locks onto and targets the source of the jamming signal.

So there's no way a ship can be too fast to track, at least not one the size of a frigate or greater.

Lastly your ships max out at 60km an hour that's based off your fastest vessel your carriers are a tad slower and your subs are around 60 or lower if underwater, you're 3500km's away so thats around 58 hours for your entire fleet to get to where my fleet was. Seeing as I'm sailing away from you for now it will take you longer to catch up if at all possible.

Your carrier launched planes might have some missile that could reach my ships after they flew far ahead of your fleet to get close enough, in which case I would have my CAP's swarm them and with your planes armed mostly with anti-ship missiles and not air-to-air missiles it would be bad news.

You'd also have to deal with ship launched anti-air missiles and missile defense networks of which I deployed more air defense ships than any other type of vessel.


Ah AMF looks at the thread to what do we owe this?

Not only that, he fired nukes on a Gholgoth member. I'm not sure that's entirely good for him.

No, no it's not....

Amf? :o

Firing nukes into Gholgoth is about the same as doing it in Haven.

Even though for some reason Gholgoth doesn't exist to Haven and Haven doesn't exist to Gholgoth so I don't exist to AMF...hrmm very confusing..

Amf? :o

Yes?




Ah AMF looks at the thread to what do we owe this?

Always lurking my friend, keeping an eye on things.

No, no it's not....

Glad to see your here. As far as I know, concerning the recent ICBM thing, both parties over MSN confirmed to me that they indeed mutually agreed to it. I don't think anyone has a right to interfere, as the RP resulted in a good end either way. Not saying you don't have to, but I've been keeping track and making sure another "HAVEN" incident doesn't happen due to misunderstandings between both parties.

Your welcome to lurk in this thread as long as you like.

Kargucagstan

Edited the post. I'll do more tomorrow.

The Peoples Freedom

Like I said over MSN, I'll reply tomorrow.

Chazakain

Posted for ya, sorry for taking so long. Was busy Mediating the crises and stuff.

EVERYONE ELSE

Night everyone. Keep updates going so I can keep OOC thread active and up to date. Thanks everyone for your help, I appreciate it. Together we'll make this entire RP a great one yet. Night.

Edited .

About nuking Gholgoth, I never launched nukes at it at all. I fired nuclear cannons off my coast as a warning to a Gholgoth member who's invading me.

About nuking Gholgoth, I never launched nukes at it at all. I fired nuclear cannons off my coast as a warning to a Gholgoth member who's invading me.

Please remember the agreement Stoky. If you can, stop using those things. It can lead to another misunderstanding and a lot of headaches. XD

It's a game man, doesn't matter if your invaded or not. After the War, things will cycle back. Trust me.

Keep up the good work everyone.

EDIT

NOW I'm going to sleep.

I fired the cannons before the agreement. And a defensive cannon with a very limited range is not very offensive, is it?

I fired the cannons before the agreement. And a defensive cannon with a very limited range is not very offensive, is it?

Well, in that case, I suppose it's in the past and we can move on it. After the Nuke Retconn, I suppose nations should be ignoring that little thing considering everything went to a specific rule of thumb or way without the nukage beforehand.

Makes sense to me, sorry about that.

Map: http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd188/NS_Crossbowman/Earth%20A045/regionmap.png
I'm blue, Stok is red.

Which shade of blue??

And can we assume that the cities and terrain is the same as the territory you claim, or no?

Map: http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd188/NS_Crossbowman/Earth%20A045/regionmap.png
I'm blue, Stok is red.

Added. Thanks!

(Thanks Buddha C for MSN linky!)

Rithian and Her Colonies (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapofrithianandcoloniesmg1.png)

Cyan = Puppet State of New Siesdaros
Blue = Colonies
Black = Homeland Rithian
Red = Stoklomolvi

It's a little bloated, so I included Stok to show about what it should actually be, I'm very bad with paint.

Edit: Here's a little better one, I erased some areas. Stok is still on there though.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1066/mapofrithianandcoloniesls1.th.png (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapofrithianandcoloniesls1.png)

Chernobl is Canada. And Annie the link is broken.

Chernobl is Canada. And Annie the link is broken.

Me fixy nao.

Also GWO is waiting for someone to actually attack him for him to get involved

Also GWO is waiting for someone to actually attack him for him to get involved

Yea, that'll probably have to wait until all of us get from being attacked to actually having forces available. XD

I'm attacking him, just he refuses to recognise my post ><

yeah because you launched nukes. He made it adamant about no nukes.

DC, you got any like, 3000-4500km cruise missiles for sale?

We're working on a new 4000km cruise missile. It's got a 3-4-5 design goal: carry a 300kg warhead 4000km to within 5m of the target.
And it will be NS Draftroom-approved!

Damn it Ralk, he's just making this more complicated than it already is. What does he want me to do, sail through his minefield so thick that it would probably be visible?

Well if you just launch cruise missiles with conventional warhead he would attack back

Everything has to be fair. Argh.

The Haven incident did show the consequences of launching nuclear missiles at a Haven member. Still, does it really matter that much that I used tactical nuclear missiles? A piece for a piece; he launched them in droves during my civil war.

Everything has to be fair. Argh.

The Haven incident did show the consequences of launching nuclear missiles at a Haven member. Still, does it really matter that much that I used tactical nuclear missiles? A piece for a piece; he launched them in droves during my civil war.

That was THAT war. This is THIS war. Talk it out with him, Stoky. Either through telegrams or something. I know it's supposed to be "fair" but it is war, and role played as such. No nukes, whatsoever, of any kind, in this war unless BOTH PARTIES mutually agree and have no objection.

well its not your civil war. However I really have no say thats just what GWO told me when I asked him why he wasn't getting involved

Use a dummy fleet maybe? Or a horde of minehunters/sweepers and tankers (tankers plow through the minefield until they sink; minehunters/sweepers do their job)?

Bah. I'll just change the nukes to vacuum bombs.

Just post the attack as a new post

We're working on a new 4000km cruise missile. It's got a 3-4-5 design goal: carry a 300kg warhead 4000km to within 5m of the target.
And it will be NS Draftroom-approved!

First sorry no time to make an IC post today. Very busy.

I just thought I'd point out that its generally not accepted that you to recieve storefront orders during a conflict and use the newly ordered equipment in the same conflict.

Generally orders take a day or "NS year" to actually be recieved and during rps the nations involved are in a set time frame.

You could get the cruise missiles but they wouldn't be useable in this rp because the rp doesn't advance at the same time rate.

Or at the very least DC/Sans would have to rp these cruise missiles being shipped to Sans, and in turn I would attack in ernest the supply vessels and or craft.

And even then Sans's ships and the like would have to go all the way back to port to be armed with the new missiles they wouldn't just magically be useable.

Sailing all the way back to port to be refitted is just going to leave the fleet in my missile spam range for even longer, that and Sans aircraft would have to be recalled because any mid air refueling attempts would make them irresistable targets.

And I would have liked a chance to respond to the unloading of some 200 gigantic containers. Meh i suppose...more stand off distance weaponry will need to be used..this is proving to be an expensive little engagement.

And Sans what radar is detecting subs five hundred thirty meters, not really moving, beneath the sea?

When your fleet is put out, with your submarines and destroyers up front just behind your cruisers which would be your best sub detection vessels.

Of course I don't expect it would happen like that. Cruise missiles could be built modestly quickly; the trouble would be delivery, refitting, and training. The best solution would be for Sans to buy missile-carrying platforms - which will be my sub or my new multirole fighter - from me as well; that way, he could train his crews at my testing grounds. Then, the only problem is delivery of the crews (and platforms) to his country to engage targets. Subs... could get there, but would still have to fight their way through. Fighters would never make it.
It would be useful for his next war, at least.

"The hell are those things?"
"What?"
"Those - those, things, on the radar."
"They look like subs to me."
"From Unkerlantum?"
"I don't think so."
"Perhaps they're those of our allies."
"It's trying to hide."
"But our fleet is chasing the Unkerlantum Fleet."
"Send in some Poseidons."

A radio call was made back to the big group of Poseidons chasing the enemy fleet.
"Sixty-five of you, come back. We have suspected enemy subs approaching Port Nairn. I repeat, sixty-five come back to Nairn, we have suspected enemy subs. Over."

Half of the formation broke off and quickly made their way back to the harbour, with depth charges ready.

Okay, I'm going to try not being an asshole, because I understand that you're new to NS. So, I'll just say no. 1. They're submarines, you don't just look at a RADAR and say, "Oh no, a ping, they must be submarines." 2. You can't distinguish national origin just by a RADAR/SONAR station, it's just impossible, okay that may not be true, the design of a specific nation may be sooo much different than anyone else's that it could be possible, but not in this case. 3. I'm running silent, plus I'm pretty deep and yea, I'm kind of far away too, so that kind of does add to the factor of spotting me so easily is kind of... unbelievable? 4. You didn't even say what spotted, come on man.

Okay, you're new, so I'm not trying to be an asshole, so I'll give you some links, they'll all be wikipedia since that's what I mainly use.

[Btw, SONAR=Submarines, RADAR=Whole bunch of other stuff]

SONAR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SONAR)
RADAR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RADAR)
Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine_warfare)
Depth Charges (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_charge)
Sonobouys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonobuoy)

Typical way to distinguish between subs is their screws - how many shafts? It's the most distinguishable feature on sonar for a sub that's moving. Some, more modern, subs use pump-jets instead of screws to drive them. Still, that only tells you sub type, not sub nationality.
Hell, San Semmes, Buddha C and Unkerlantum use some of the same subs - Virginias, Ohios, Los Angeleses. The only distinctive class seems to be Unkerlantum's Cartagena-class subs. Man, it must be tough for ASuW crews...

Typical way to distinguish between subs is their screws - how many shafts? It's the most distinguishable feature on sonar for a sub that's moving. Some, more modern, subs use pump-jets instead of screws to drive them. Still, that only tells you sub type, not sub nationality.
Hell, San Semmes, Buddha C and Unkerlantum use some of the same subs - Virginias, Ohios, Los Angeleses. The only distinctive class seems to be Unkerlantum's Cartagena-class subs. Man, it must be tough for ASuW crews...

Actually seeing that we all got our subs from wiki. Almost all MT nations have the same class of subs, making it hell on earth. Which is why huge amounts of submarines on YOUR side can be a bad idea.


Buddha C,depending on the sea tempture and a bunch of other factors to complex for a NS RP. You can hear a submarine for quite a few miles out. Up to 25 miles if I right. A better way to spot the subs would be aircraft/helicopters using lookdown sonar.

And Anagonian and Chalztilan, I PROIMSE I get that post up tommorrow!

And Anagonian and Chalztilan, I PROIMSE I get that post up tommorrow!

I'll be posting a bit tomorrow after work. Don't expect much, lol. Might be 12 hours, might be 6, who knows?

Anyway, night all. Keep updates coming, ect. ect.

Actually seeing that we all got our subs from wiki. Almost all MT nations have the same class of subs, making it hell on earth. Which is why huge amounts of submarines on YOUR side can be a bad idea.


Buddha C,depending on the sea tempture and a bunch of other factors to complex for a NS RP. You can hear a submarine for quite a few miles out. Up to 25 miles if I right. A better way to spot the subs would be aircraft/helicopters using lookdown sonar.

And Anagonian and Chalztilan, I PROIMSE I get that post up tommorrow!

The submarines are two hundred fifty kilometers away.

Sorry Buddha.
I just realised how dumb that was, actually. ;-;

Going to edit.
Now.

Thank you, sorry for being a bit harsh but that kind of hit a wrong button. >.< Are your carriers in harbor or tracing the fleet farther back?

Harsh? That wasn't harsh. :)

The Carriers are moving slowly out of the harbour, and trailing behind the main fleet.

Ah, alright, thank you :-)

EDIT: Post coming soon, it's going to be short, sorry I got la escuela tomorrow >.<

Chazakain is being very annoying with godmodding. He didn't even mention his men attacking me until AFTER.

Chazakain is being very annoying with godmodding. He didn't even mention his men attacking me until AFTER.

Calm down. Maybe a one-on-one discussion about your issue will assist in the resolution of this problem? Talking always help's, maybe he just didn't understand something specific about it.

All hail the great and wise Mod Anagonia!

you guys are supposed to be on the same side now act civil

UPDATES

Added Greston's awesome Youtube Vid for the Memorial of the IC Fallen. Check it out!

Any sites you know that host smaller videos(Mine is just image, sound, and text, I can't find any videos for download)

Hey, Rith, would you mind if I attacked you?

Nope, I even have the thread ready.

Edit: here ya go. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578652

Ok, I'll make the thread.

Also, I was thinking that we should have a Yalta Conference of sorts for the Allied Coalition. It would be somewhere in one of the participating nations or on a Grestonian carrier and the ones attending would be Anagonia, Stoklomolvi, Leistung, The Northern Baltic, and me.

Didn't you just read? I put the thread i made in preparation up. At least use the name....

Wait, what? If I am invading I'd be making a new thread, man. That's like the stupidest idea ever, and besides the point, my thread name is cooler.

What can be cooler then chasing a dolphin?

Who to fight... I need a theatre.

Grave of the Fireflies

Name comes from a book with a similair name about firecombings in Vietnam, it fits because I am going to firecomb your nation to hell.

I don't think so, Tim. :)

I do, buddy. Besides the point, as the aggressor, I have to make the thread because I am starting the fight.

Well just hurry and make the thread, I'm bored.

Edit: I love the fact that i am a Republic-Facist-Communist-Aziast-Rithic-Democractic nation, yet I managed to pick one of those to support with the full military of all the others. :D

Oh lordy lord, Greston...you're attacking another nation?

Sorry guy's. Anagonia is no longer involved in the Global War. Thanks for everyone's help. All theatres involved, expect Fictions, will be departed.

Me and Stok talked it over as I talked with TPF and Lyra's, so ya.

Here's the basic details to be put in later IC post:

a) Cessation of current hostilies and re-establishment of normal peacetime relations between all parties.
b) Cessation of all Anagonian support for communist forces, in all theatres. Time is granted to the United Republic to withdraw in good order.
c) West Island shall remain sovereign to the United Republic, and is granted to the Reich as unrestricted leasehold.
d) Lyran and Anagonian militaries agree to establish military facilities on each other's soil, under unrestricted leasehold, the details of which can be established at a later date.

Anywho, night all.

EDIT

I'll still be keeping thread updated, don't worry!

@ SS: How wide are your P-8 patrols? And I can't get a IC post up today but I'm going to try tomorrow.

OOC: Lamoni is officially neutral in this war. However, if Lyras needs assistance, don't be surprised to see me answering the call.

Please remove the current map you have of my country as its outdated and old,i only made it for the purpose of another RP.
Ill provide you with more maps and very detailed ones.

African States of the Federation (http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/Africanstates.png)

European States of the Federation (http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/EuropeanStates.gif)

Carubbean State Protectorates of the Federation (http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/Carribeanprovince.gif)

Relation to the world (http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/Cukaricatowardtheworld.gif)

I do, buddy. Besides the point, as the aggressor, I have to make the thread because I am starting the fight.

I thought you were fighting a bunch of other wars and didn't have the manpower?

Neverless who wants me to invade them?


Also Anagonia does that mean our fight is over and that my fleet near your homeland should withdrawn?

Also consider me as neutral coutry from now on,as i dont have much time to RP these overextended battles because of RL obligations.But,also this doesn't deny any chance that ill re enter the war again later so please keep the facts on this thread.
Thank you.

I thought you were fighting a bunch of other wars and didn't have the manpower?

Neverless who wants me to invade them?


Also Anagonia does that mean our fight is over and that my fleet near your homeland should withdrawn?

Um, I'm not in any other conflicts in this war, limited to diplomatic stuff, except for Fictions which I pulled out of because it ended. I'm not stretched out AT ALL and have the man power to spare to numerous places.

Also consider me as neutral coutry from now on,as i dont have much time to RP these overextended battles because of RL obligations.But,also this doesn't deny any chance that ill re enter the war again later so please keep the facts on this thread.
Thank you.

Updated the maps for you, also placed you in neutrals. Thanks for the update! Sorry to hear that, also, about not having enough time.

Fighter4u

In the Chazakain Thread, yes. Considering that was part of the diplomatic process to the agreement and stuff. So I'll be posting a pull-out soon enough.

Fictions, however, will remain my own priority separate from the war.

Get away! I want Fictions!! I did all the leg work! XD

Get away! I want Fictions!! I did all the leg work! XD

If by that you meant nuked me then yes, yes you did. xD

Get away! I want Fictions!! I did all the leg work! XD

Well, I can't, lol. According to the Peace Accord I can't have any official relations with any side of the Coalition expect those specifically stated, during wartime of course. Either way, Anagonian operations in Fictions will be solo and destined to be "peacekeeping" operations to "assist a new government".

Updated the maps for you, also placed you in neutrals. Thanks for the update! Sorry to hear that, also, about not having enough time.

Fighter4u

In the Chazakain Thread, yes. Considering that was part of the diplomatic process to the agreement and stuff. So I'll be posting a pull-out soon enough.


well good bye sir it was quite the fight.(infact I'll go put the IC response to that up right now)
hmm maybe I can kick the Rithian off now:mad:

IC post coming either tonight or tommorow. I aplogize for the delay Sans.

well good bye sir it was quite the fight.(infact I'll go put the IC response to that up right now)
hmm maybe I can kick the Rithian off now:mad:

I'm not gone from the war in OOC! I'm still needed to keep the threads updated, haha!

Anyways, it was MASSIVE fun. I enjoyed it till the end.

@ Buddha: I'd say 'bout 50m between each plane.

I hate people not using my denonym, even though I use it constantly! It's RITHIC people, RITHIC, not Rithian, not Ritharian, RITHIC!

Also Sans Semmes as i'm currently on a tight schedule in RL and will be unable to provide you with more help,our agreement is still standing 7th Naval division is still under your command and if you need ill place some more covert forces if needed to help you.Under your RP command ofc.

Cuka, I believe the "Threat" stage is gone. This is WWXII

Cuka, I believe the "Threat" stage is gone. This is WWXII

Obviously... xD

The United Workers Republic (The Northern Baltic) is calling in a blood debt and wants me to join in on destroy GWO. I plan to only send small groups of ships to work on a tactical level.

Mostly special forces detachments taking out targets and identifying more targets on the ground. Offers more flexibility than just bombing everything that vaguely looks like a target on a satellite image.

Prepare to get through my full navy going back to the homeland, and thousands of other ships around the water. :D

Prepare to get through my full navy going back to the homeland, and thousands of other ships around the water. :D

I was under the impression that there was a massive blockade around Magna Polis, and that the coalition had virtually complete naval superiority.

Which is correct. Rith, man, calm down. Also, you should contact TNB because he is currently controlling a massive blockade of Magna Polis.

I'm getting rather tired by the lack of progress on my front with GWO, even after I changed the missiles from nukes [hohoho omg cheap] to vacuum bombs [omg bombs].

Hey Whiseasy do you wish to be invaded?

I'm getting rather tired by the lack of progress on my front with GWO, even after I changed the missiles from nukes [hohoho omg cheap] to vacuum bombs [omg bombs].

actually the nukes whining was because quite a few(ok maybe one) people requested that they not be used then bam you did and you complained when everyone(hypberbole) wanted to nuke you back to the stone age so it was.

2nd defender beats aggressor almost every time get over it(well at least in risk when theres a tie)

Actually, by thousands of ships, I don't mean mine. Also, that was an exxageration, I meant the hundred or so GWO and allies ships. Geez. If I was that angry/excited I would do something stupid ICly, not OOCly. I'm not that smart. Also, never say The Coalition when you are talking about me and someone else, I have no idea who you are talking about. (Seeing as how i am a coalition)

Hell I got nowhere to fight... :(

Chernobl, join me in beating the crap out of GWO's oil province or food province.

And Chazakain, I used a few tactical nukes of 50 kT. Does that even get close to getting 12 gigatons of nuclear explosives landing on your head? Didn't think so!

50 kT isn't even going to completely obliterate the target it hits, assuming it's large like a Aircraft Carrier.

Hell I got nowhere to fight...

Join me in fighting off Unkerlantum and Buddha from my city? =o

Rithian, exactly. It's called a tactical weapon for a reason.

I was making a point to Chazakain, not to you.

Actually, by thousands of ships, I don't mean mine. Also, that was an exxageration, I meant the hundred or so GWO and allies ships. Geez. If I was that angry/excited I would do something stupid ICly, not OOCly. I'm not that smart. Also, never say The Coalition when you are talking about me and someone else, I have no idea who you are talking about. (Seeing as how i am a coalition)

I really have no clue why you're supporting GWO. As per our Amethyst Pact, you're obligated to come to my aid in the event of attack--GWO funded the killings of thousands of my civilians for no apparent reason other than to further his own fascist cause. ICly, I should be knocking on your door with a Trident right about now.

You should also have told me that. Ugh. I thought you were just supporting Stok. Since I'm being invaded, and surrendering would severely slaughter my reputation, I think i'll just pull out except for the Grestonian attack. And I'll aid when it's over. Sorry bout that.

Ralkovia's declaration of war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beau-tjXcHc

Rithian: Message to the Enemy. (Yes, the music sucks)

Youtube: Rithian Message to the Enemy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZQi8DMXeEI)

edit: You didn't mention me and my awesome..... well ness.

Ralk, is that your voice in the video? Sounds higher than I thought.

Formalise your declaration IC. And I find your notion that I'm the aggressor disturbing.

My voice is very deep in real life. The microphone adds that gay lisp as well. Listening to my voice I am extremely enraged and feel like reprimanding my vocal cords...but do I really need to finalize it in IC. Its basically my IC declaration

Stop making bad youtube videos, all of you.

Oh yeah well stop making bad 2girls1cup videos, TPF. Its disgusting.

TPF, you make something better, then.

Heh, microphones do that, Ralk. I see that your colony of Yemen is vulnerable...

What I was hoping for someone to attack.

I prefer to actually write out my descriptions and war decelerations instead of youtube videos.

stok whats your msn?