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Revised OOC Thread for GWO/IFA/Stoky War (OOC ONLY)

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Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:15
ATTENTION

This thread is for OOC pertaining to the threads listed below involving the Grand World Order, his allies, Stoklomolvi, and his allies. This thread is not for Trolling, flaim-baiting, arguments, or anything else off-topic of the current Role Plays. Any attempt to begin intentions of harassment will be met with reporting to Moderation. This thread is specifically for OOC material involving the current war, and NOTHING ELSE.

KEEP ON TOPIC PEOPLE. THIS THREAD IS NOT A PLACE TO SHOW HOW MUCH SCHOOLING YOU PRETEND TO HAVE

Thank you.

A Personal OOC Note from the Player behind Anagonia
Guy's, I know I've said it to most of you time and again, but I really mean it. You people are a wonderful set of individuals who have shown great capability and outstanding merit in the face of extreme stress and situations that some NSer's would collapse in. I'd like to personally and humbly thank everyone who has helped me organize this thread (Buddha C especially for his contributions of constantly updating me over MSN!), and to those many others whom have come forward to recognize the importance of role playing for the enjoyment of simply role playing (Kargucastan and a lot others currently involved!).

I don't think I can say it in clearer words that without you guy's (and possibly gal's) at my side I don't truly believe this entire Global War RP would have gotten this far. I want to remind you that no matter what some of you think, this entire RP is not in my hands in any specific or unspecific way. It's in your hands, all up to you, and you've made it great.

Keep the updates coming, and let's ride this horse until she run's out. And, most importantly, let's all have fun riding into that metaphorical sunset.

Many Thanks to all of you,
-Travis

ATTENTION: THIS IS A NON-NUCLEAR WAR
-Joint Statement Between the United Republic of Anagonia and the Free World Empire of Kargucagstan (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14356229&postcount=228)
-Free World Empire of Kargucagstan Official Joint Recognition of Joint Non-Nuclear Policy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14356263&postcount=229)

ATTENTION: CONCERNING THE NUCLEAR CRISES
Basically Nuclear Strikes retconned and everything back to normal before NUKE.
-Stoklomolvi Statement (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14360536&postcount=555)
-Placed Reserved for HAVEN Statement
-Kargucagstan Statement (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14360546&postcount=556)

***

LINK TO YOUTUBE VIDEO(s) OF GWO/STOKY WAR
-Rithian Changes Sides (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faO0YwQqK04)
-Ralkovian Declaration of War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beau-tjXcHc)
-GWO-Stok War Memorial to the Fallen (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WEm1vitOUuQ&feature=channel_page)
Made by Greston! Thanks Greston, we all Salute You!
-Stoklo-GWO War (Nationstates) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmbfX7xo4Js)
Made by Fictions! Thanks Fictions, we all Salute You!

LINK TO MAIN THREAD
War declared on the Grand World Order [OPEN, MT-MT+3] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577533)

Personal References
(Link to Kargucagstan invading thingie: StokyCoast (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/Zipline/NationStates/Stokcoast-1.jpg))
(Link to The Peoples Freedom ORBAT for Anagonian Thread: TPF ORBAT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14357196&postcount=410)

PRELIMINARY - LINKS TO NATION MAPS FOR REFERENCE
-Map of Heirosoloa (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/dragonzlair2/HeiroMapKEY.png)
-Map of Greston (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/w/images/5/57/Gresmap2.png)
-Map of Parilisa (http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/The_Republic_of_Parilisa/baltic-map.jpg)
-Map of Sans Semmes (http://usera.imagecave.com/BlankCanvasProject/Sans%20Semmes%20Map.png)
-Map of Anagonia (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/Drakomis/Pictures%20drawn%20for%20me%20by%20other%20people/FINISHED-1.png)
-Map of Salzland (http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3507/salzmapfw0.jpg)
-Map of Fictions (http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm34/glostickx/Picture1-29.png?t=1225279862)
-Map of Unkerlantum (http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww7/Unker/UnkerlantumMAPPolitical.png)

Cukarica
-African States of the Federation (http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/Africanstates.png)
-European States of the Federation (http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/EuropeanStates.gif)
-Carubbean State Protectorates of the Federation (http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/Carribeanprovince.gif)
-Relation to the world (http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/Cukaricatowardtheworld.gif)

Rithian
-Map of Rithian and Her Colonies (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1066/mapofrithianandcoloniesls1.th.png)
*Cyan = Puppet State of New Siesdaros
*Blue = Colonies
*Black = Homeland Rithian
*Red = Stoklomolvi

Chernobl (Chernobl = Blue / Stoklomolvi = Red)
-Map of Chernobl (http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd188/NS_Crossbowman/Earth%20A045/regionmap.png)

Stoklomolvi (Multi-Map Link)
-Administrative Divisions Names Map (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/w/images/4/4f/Stoklomolvi_administrative_divisions_names.png)
-Administrative Map (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/w/images/a/a3/Stoklomolvi_administrative_divisions.png)
-Relation to World Map (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/w/images/d/d6/Map_of_Stoklomolvi.png)

Chazakain (Multi-Map Link)
-Geographic Map (http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/chazsapphire/ChazakainGeo.png)
-Relation to Other Countries (http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/chazsapphire/World2-1.png)
-Relation to World (http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/chazsapphire/World.png)


Stoklomolvi Coalition: (15+(?) Nations from HEGEMONY, COMINTERN and ANAN)
-Greston
-The Northern Baltic
-Leistung
-Chernobyl-Pripyat
-Waldenburg 2
-Rithian
-Whiskeasy
-Stoklomolvi
-Heirosoloa
-Chernobl
-Parilisa
-Sans Semmes
-Holy Paradise
-Myakoo
-Miroxia
-The United Workers Republic (The Northern Baltic)
-Greal
-Brittanican Adenia
-Telros
-Royal British States
-New Kereptica
-Lord Sumguy
-The Provincial Republic of The Grestonian Controlled Ryouese Islands
-Ustio North
-Denecaep
-Heirosoloa
-Eurasian Soclialist Republics
-HEGEMONY (Alliance)
-COMINTERN (Alliance)
-ANAN (Alliance)

Neutrals
-Lynion
-Cukarica
-Lamoni
-Soviet Aissur (Officially Neutral, Unofficially doing Operations)
-Asgarnieu(Formally Neutral - Operating False-Flag with Stok forces)
-Ralkovia(formally, may still rp broken off units and the like)
-Chazaka(Not Chazakain)
-Clamparapa
-Neo-Erusea(didn't declare, just observing)
-Cukarica
-Shazbotdom
-Gun Manufacturers(neither side responded to him/her/it)
-Isamora(officially neutral, citizens may join sides)
-Praetonia
-Lundastal
-Madurastan
-Zoingo
-Anemos Major
-Zainzibar Land(didn't outright say it but seems neutral)
-Defense Corporations
-Punckeds(didn't declare, just observing)
-Imperial isa(didn't declare, just observing)
-Korintar

Nations Formally Declaring Surrender
-Anagonia (Signed Peaced Accord with Joint Lyra's/TPF Invasion Forces)
-Fictions (Surrendered to Stoklomolvi/Anagonian Coalition Forces)

GWO Coalition: (10+ Nations from IFA and PACT of IRON)
-Lyras
-The Grand World Order
-The PeoplesFreedom
-Ralkovia
-Unkerlantum
-Akimonad
-Rykarian Territories
-East Congaree
-Buddah C
-Chazakain
-Fighter4u
-Kargucastan
-Skibereen
-Razafas
-IFA (Alliance)
-PACT of IRON (Alliance)

CURRENT DIPLOMATIC THREADS

-It's just a flesh wound,Diplomacy(mt,closed GWO-Stok War) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14382400#post14382400)
Status: Being Diplomatic :D
Nations Involved
Anagonia(Neutral), Chazakain, possibly others

-Diplomacy: the art of restraining power (Closed) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578830)
Status: Being Diplomatic (Secretly being evil) :D
Nations Involved
Anagonia(Neutral), The Northern Baltic(Involved in War), Whiskeasy(Involved in War), Fictions(Neutral)

CURRENT WAR CAMPAIGNS

-Move The Rook Two Squares Forward{GWO Stok WAR Closed MT} (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=579289)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Fighter4u, Rithian, various others

-Auro Thunder(MT, CLOSED/Semi-CLOSED, GWO-Stok War) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14375429#post14375429)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Chernobl, Chazakain, possibly others

-Rithic Revenge(CLOSED, Stok-GWO war)(Chazakain Kingdom) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14375242#post14375242)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Rithian, Chazakain, possibly others

-Stok-GWO War - Sans Semmes/Unkerlantum [Semi-Open, MT] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14359778#post14359778)
Status: WAR (NO WMD'S)
Nations Involved
Sans Semmes, Unkerlantum, Others yet to be mentioned

-Stoklo-GWO War, Theater: Stoklomolvi (Semi-Open) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578156)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Kargucagstan, Stoklomolvi, Possibility of others
-Kargucagstan officially invades Stoklomolvi

-Lost in Translation: Korintar v. Chazakain (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578158&highlight=Lost+Translation)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Korintar, Chazakain
-Title say's it all.

STAND ALONE ENTRANCES INTO WAR

-Roses of War and Tulips of Death(Stok-GWO war) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14374020#post14374020)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Rithian, possibly others.
Rithian switches sides.

-Parilisa joins the Stoky-GWO War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14355694#post14355694)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Parilisa. Possibility of Unkerlantum Intervention
-Parilisa's entrance into the Global Conflict

-Divine Might Shall Triumph (Closed) IFA/Stok and allies (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14355099#post14355099)
Status: WAR
Nations Involved
Unkerlantum, IFA, Stoky Coalition
-Unkerlantum's Entrance into the Global Conflict

POSSIBLE WARZONES

-The Blood of Innocent Youth(Chazakain Theatre) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14341091#post14341091)
Status: WITHDRAWAL
Nations Involved
Greston, Chazakain, Fighter4u
Battle for Chazakain.

-Anagonian Theatre [CLOSED, Stok-GWO war] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578387)
Status: PEACE ACCORD SIGNED
Nations Involved
The Peoples Freedom, Anagonia, Lyrias, possibly another ally for Anagonia
The Peoples Freedom Launches an Invasion of Anagonia.

-"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.."(Fictions Theatre) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577807)
Status: FICTION SURRENDER TO STOK/ANA COALITION FORCES
Nations Involved
Greston, The Northern Baltic, Whiskeasy, Fictions, Buddha C, Anagonia
The Imperial Republic starts preemptive strikes on Fictions as Whiskeasy and The Northern Baltic coordinate an invasion

-Oil Province of the Grand World Order(GWO Theatre) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577744)
Status: UNKNOWN
Nations Involved
Stoklomolvi, GWO, Ralkovia, Anagonia
Stoklomolvi attacks the Grand World Order's Oil Province in Saudi Arabia and Oman

-Stoklo-GWO War; Theatre: Sans Semmes [Semi-Open/MT] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577828)
Status: NOT RELEVANT
Nations Involved
Buddha C, Sans Semmes, Unkerlantum
-Cease Fire Issued. Possibility of WAR high.

-Stoklo-GWO War; Theatre: Royal British States (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577939)
Status: NO WAR
Nations Involved
Buddha C, Royal British States, ODECON, various others

-Pact of Iron Theatre (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14342852#post14342852)
Status: UNKNOWN
Nations Involved
HEGEMONY Alliance, PACT of IRON Alliance
Brittanican Adenia
28-12-2008, 22:18
Barronia is no longer in this war, owing to a clash.

That is to say, I own both, and have no desire to puppetwank.
Fictions
28-12-2008, 22:19
Thanks for this new thread, much needed.
Anyway, because my question got lost in the middle of a flame war I'll ask it again here;
because I can't really reply to an ORBAT,Until someone makes a move, I would like to develop what is actually going on in my nation in regards to the war, and I was wondering if any of the allies that are attacking my nation would volunteer a few civilian family that may be living in fictions of your nationality to be killed by vigilantes?
The PeoplesFreedom
28-12-2008, 22:19
Need more fascists in this game tbh.
Skgorria
28-12-2008, 22:19
If this isn't getting too crowded, the Pact of Iron would like a slice of the action. However if this is already too complicated we'll just go and bully some newbies.

EDIT: Just to clarify, the Pact would be backing GWO. We were fascists way before he even came along, and it's time to see if an old dog can't learn any new tricks...
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:20
Thanks for this new thread, much needed.
Anyway, because my question got lost in the middle of a flame war I'll ask it again here;
because I can't really reply to an ORBAT,Until someone makes a move, I would like to develop what is actually going on in my nation in regards to the war, and I was wondering if any of the allies that are attacking my nation would volunteer a few civilian family that may be living in fictions of your nationality to be killed by vigilantes?

Yea, sure, we can do that. If you want to I can allow you to RP some Anagonian tourists?
Sans Semmes
28-12-2008, 22:20
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577828

^ Sans Semmes Theatre.
Basically:
Buddha C invades Sans Semmes, Sans Semmes' Navy is not fecking ready, Sans Semmes' Navy gets blown to pieces, Sans Semmes calls truce, Sans Semmes decides to provide medic ships instead, waiting for reply from Buddha. :O
Fighter4u
28-12-2008, 22:21
TPF, which is why I can't let Chazakain go under! In other words, expect naval delopment to Chazakain shore to defend from enemy invasion.
Chazakain
28-12-2008, 22:22
could we add a category for neutrals?
The PeoplesFreedom
28-12-2008, 22:22
Normally dogpiles end very poorly. It may be wise, if you cannot limit the number of nations involved, to limit the amount of troops/equipment used. Because right now the dogpile is really not a good idea.
Fictions
28-12-2008, 22:24
Yea, sure, we can do that. If you want to I can allow you to RP some Anagonian tourists?

Sure, can i?
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:26
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577828

^ Sans Semmes Theatre.
Basically:
Buddha C invades Sans Semmes, Sans Semmes' Navy is not fecking ready, Sans Semmes' Navy gets blown to pieces, Sans Semmes calls truce, Sans Semmes decides to provide medic ships instead, waiting for reply from Buddha. :O

Added.

CHAZAKAIN
-Sure, give me an updated list of neutrals and I'll post one up.

FICTIONS
-Your sure can

THE PEOPLES FREEDOM
-I agree. How about we limit each theatre to three nations, or four if some or smaller, and just add one more if one nation looses?
Imperial isa
28-12-2008, 22:27
Stoklomolvi side has 21 + those who are joining from Hegemony,ODECON and COMINTERN

GWO side has 10 + those from IFA and the Pact
Brittanican Adenia
28-12-2008, 22:28
Barronia is no longer in this war, owing to a clash.

That is to say, I own both, and have no desire to puppetwank.

ATTN: Anagonia ^_^
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:30
ATTN: Anagonia ^_^

Okay, I don't see you on the list. Are you Stoky or GWO allied? I think your Stoky, right?
New Kereptica
28-12-2008, 22:31
Yep. He's ODECON.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:33
Stoklomolvi side has 21 + those who are joining from Hegemony,ODECON and COMINTERN

GWO side has 10 + those from IFA and the Pact

Added that. Thanks.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:34
Yep. He's ODECON.

Alright. I think if your a member of an alliance, you don't need specific mention. Just mention the alliance your a member of and you'll be set. Think this is good or should I go through the membership lists?
Fictions
28-12-2008, 22:36
Anagonia, TG for you
Brittanican Adenia
28-12-2008, 22:36
Okay, I don't see you on the list. Are you Stoky or GWO allied? I think your Stoky, right?

Mid-way down on the Stok list.

NK, my other nation isn't ODECON, silly boy. ^_^
New Kereptica
28-12-2008, 22:37
Oh, thought he was talking about BA, not Barr.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:39
Mid-way down on the Stok list.

NK, my other nation isn't ODECON, silly boy. ^_^

Alright, edited you in. Also edited Alliances to show their alliances, and placed PACT OF IRON on GWO side.
Leistung
28-12-2008, 22:46
Just so we all know, ODECON is not "allied" with Stok or any of his allies. We're simply at war with the same people.
Heirosoloa
28-12-2008, 22:49
Heirosoloa recently joined the war with Stok.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:51
Heirosoloa recently joined the war with Stok.

I'll add you.

UPDATE

Organized the Threads so everyone knows who's mainly involved and what to expect.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 22:52
Just so we all know, ODECON is not "allied" with Stok or any of his allies. We're simply at war with the same people.

Alrighty. I'll keep that in mind as you somehow dragged me into this war...(lol)

BTW, concerning ODECON, did you get my telegram?
Leistung
28-12-2008, 22:54
Oh yes, I meant to talk to you about that. Entering the alliance as an observer would be fine for what you're talking about.

EDIT: And it's not "et all," it's "et al."
Buddha C
28-12-2008, 22:57
[ssoorry friend made me do it :-p]
Skgorria
28-12-2008, 22:59
The Pact of Iron is me and Atopiana. We're fascists to the core, and it brings a tear to my eye to see so many fascists *sniff*

Also, post coming up with our official entry to the war. W00t.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:01
The Pact of Iron is me and Atopiana. We're fascists to the core, and it brings a tear to my eye to see so many fascists *sniff*

Also, post coming up with our official entry to the war. W00t.

Alright, can't wait.

Buddha C

Wut?

Leistung

Alright, after the war I'll get everything prepared for it. Hopefully sometime soon.
New Kereptica
28-12-2008, 23:02
Oh yes, I meant to talk to you about that. Entering the alliance as an observer would be fine for what you're talking about.

EDIT: And it's not "et all," it's "et al."

Well technically, it's et alii.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:03
Sans Semmes, did you resign from the war or still currently active in it?
Leistung
28-12-2008, 23:04
Well technically, it's et alii.

You've spent too much time in New England.
New Kereptica
28-12-2008, 23:05
Heh. My only regret is that I couldn't have spent more.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:06
Placed Coalition in place of et all.

Also placed STATUS to reflect the current activity of the thread.
Chazakain
28-12-2008, 23:06
List of neutrals

Neutrals
Anemos Major
Chazaka
Chernobl(didn't declare, just observing)
Chernobyl-Pripyat(didn't declare, just observing)
Clamparapa
Cukarica
Defense Corporations(willing to sell to both sides)
Gun Manufacturers(neither side responded to him/her/it)(but is leaning Stok)
Imperial isa(didn't declare, just observing)
Isamora(officially neutral, citizens may join sides)
Korintar
Lundastal
Madurastan
Neo-Erusea(didn't declare, just observing)
Praetonia
Punckeds(didn't declare, just observing)
Ralkovia(formally, may still rp broken off units and the like)
Shazbotdom
Zainzibar Land(didn't outright say it but seems neutral)
Zoingo

Ok, I believe above is correct.(bloody 13 page thread)
Sans Semmes
28-12-2008, 23:06
Sans Semmes, did you resign from the war or still currently active in it?

We're at truce with the Grand World Order, Buddha C and allies for the while (our navy was sh*t, needs more industrial action), providing Medical Ships / Food Supplies for Stok's side.
Denecaep
28-12-2008, 23:07
The alliance of ANAN has agreed to support Stoklo
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:07
We're at truce with the Grand World Order, Buddha C and allies for the while (our navy was sh*t, needs more industrial action), providing Medical Ships / Food Supplies for Stok's side.

Thanks, I'll mention that.

Chazakain

Thankies. Me add that now.
Leistung
28-12-2008, 23:07
Heh. My only regret is that I couldn't have spent more.

I don't know--I just used the word "colloquy" in regular conversation. I think I might need to move XD
Buddha C
28-12-2008, 23:08
We're at truce with the Grand World Order, Buddha C and allies for the while (our navy was sh*t, needs more industrial action), providing Medical Ships / Food Supplies for Stok's side.

Lies! You stated both our sides. ;)
Skgorria
28-12-2008, 23:09
Pact of Iron offers aid to fascist nations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577886)
Sans Semmes
28-12-2008, 23:09
Lies! You stated both our sides.

FINE.
PREDOMINANTLY STOK, ALSO GWO.
MMKAY NOW, BUDDHA?

Darn you and your Bhudda goodness. D:
New Kereptica
28-12-2008, 23:11
Chazakain

Thankies. Me add that now.

That list is not entirely accurate, just sayin'.
Buddha C
28-12-2008, 23:14
If you joined our side, you know I could loan you a fleet or two? Hehe, not as big as the battle groups of course, but sizeable.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:15
That list is not entirely accurate, just sayin'.

Yea, I updated a few things, hold on.
Sans Semmes
28-12-2008, 23:16
If you joined our side, you know I could loan you a fleet or two? Hehe, not as big as the battle groups of course, but sizeable.

Socialists don't fight against Socialists, everyone knows that. :(
Skgorria
28-12-2008, 23:16
Socialists don't fight against Socialists, everyone knows that. :(

History disagrees with you :p
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:16
Hey, Leistung, your at war with ODECON right?
Sans Semmes
28-12-2008, 23:17
History disagrees with you

History disagrees with a lot of things.
Oh, Anagonia, we're officially with Stok but at truce.
Asgarnieu
28-12-2008, 23:18
Bah, get it right.

Asgarnieu is *officially* neutral while providing Stok a ton of Asgarnians under a false flag. Can we make a provision for that on the combatant list?
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:19
History disagrees with a lot of things.
Oh, Anagonia, we're officially with Stok but at truce.

Kk. I'll mention that.
Sans Semmes
28-12-2008, 23:20
Also, Buddha, you don't know how tempted I was to godmod/bring in nukes in that little invasion. xD
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:21
Bah, get it right.

Asgarnieu is *officially* neutral while providing Stok a ton of Asgarnians under a false flag. Can we make a provision for that on the combatant list?

Sorry about that. I just copied and pasted New Greston List and am trying to get it corrected. Your under the Neutral list. I mentioned False Flag.

Lol, come on guy's, give me a break here! :P
Akimonad
28-12-2008, 23:35
Hey, Leistung, your at war with ODECON right?

Do you mean is he at war against ODECON or is he fighting on the same side as ODECON?

Because he is ODECON's founder. >_>
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:36
Do you mean is he at war against ODECON or is he fighting on the same side as ODECON?

Because he is ODECON's founder. >_>

We got that cleared up on MSN. Everything's sorted now.

ALSO

Made sure to note Buddha C is no longer involved in the Chaza Thread. Pulled out via RP post.
Buddha C
28-12-2008, 23:39
Sans Semmes, are you sure there's no POSSIBLE way we could have you aid us?
New Kereptica
28-12-2008, 23:44
Not unless he wants to get pwn't there isn't.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:48
Not unless he wants to get pwn't there isn't.

He's aiding with submarines in the Chazakain theatre, which Buddha pulled out of.
New Kereptica
28-12-2008, 23:49
Oh, subs. Thought he was using surface ships.
Sans Semmes
28-12-2008, 23:52
Sans Semmes, are you sure there's no POSSIBLE way we could have you aid us?

Nope, Medical Ships / Food is about as far as I'll go.
Anagonia
28-12-2008, 23:58
Nope, Medical Ships / Food is about as far as I'll go.

I could send a small fleet to ensure your medical ships are safe, as an act of good faith? :D
Whiskeasy
29-12-2008, 00:06
Hmm, well small problem with Buddha C.
You somehow managed to slip through an assault fleet or two with no naval escort. How does that work?
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 00:12
I posted the answer to that in the locked thread.
Whiskeasy
29-12-2008, 00:18
Don;t suppose you could quote that for me?
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 00:20
Don't suppose you can look for yourself?
Leistung
29-12-2008, 00:23
Before anyone posts with a snarky comment, let's just remember--civility is key in RP.
Whiskeasy
29-12-2008, 00:26
I did, couldn't find it.
Anagonia
29-12-2008, 00:39
New Theatre of War
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577896

List already updated. It's a Joint Anagonian/HEGEMONY Preemtive Strike against the PACT of IRON. I'll add any non-alliance nations if they enter.
Skgorria
29-12-2008, 00:45
Kick arse! Off to bed now as work tomorrow, but expect full IC reaction tomrrow.
Anagonia
29-12-2008, 00:55
Kick arse! Off to bed now as work tomorrow, but expect full IC reaction tomrrow.

K, I'll try to get a post up tomorrow. Got three days to work, and possibly twelve hours during those work days. I'll try to post at least once a day per thread until New Years Vacation.
Anagonia
29-12-2008, 01:55
Lynion, how can you be picking up the submarines at that range? They were far out to sea. Or do you have ships near the submarine fleet? I don't have any surface combatants in the theatre.
Ralkovia
29-12-2008, 01:56
lynion you could pick up my convoy of goods it mixes in with a large military fleet to well
Anagonia
29-12-2008, 02:07
Nevermind, I lost track for a moment. I made a reply.
Anagonia
29-12-2008, 02:11
Alright, I'm out guy's. Be posting some tomorrow if work permits.
Leistung
29-12-2008, 03:42
The GWO ships were dark gray, which was very difficult to see in the dark blue ocean, and impossible to see at night.

This would be true if they weren't...you know...ship-shaped and spewing smoke out of their engines. And moving. And flying a flag. And reflecting radar waves. And using radar/sonar. And ship-shaped.

Oh, wait, I said that already...yeah, that's a pretty important one.
Santheres
29-12-2008, 03:54
They also tend to have lights, and it's not a good idea to have them all shut off (if they all can be?) if you're looking at fleet warfare. Your people need to know where you are and you can't constantly tell every other ship so.
Sur Abruzzi
29-12-2008, 04:09
Sur Abruzzi, as a member of ODECON is fighting against the GWO, so can we please be added amongst the nations associated with Stock's side when you get the chance? Also, I haven't committed to a theater yet, so don't expect an official declaration of war from my nation and ORBAT deployment until the theater I am participating in is decided. Just one big FYI to cover every thing.

Thanks!
Santheres
29-12-2008, 04:19
I'm in the same position as Sur is. Member of ODECON, so technically at war, but no deployments yet or official declarations, and no idea in which theater I may become involved.
Leistung
29-12-2008, 04:20
Check the forums and post there to see where we need you.
Salzland
29-12-2008, 04:21
ODECON member, biding my time, yada yada. Now I won't be showing up completely out of left field
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 04:22
I'm in the same position as Sur is. Member of ODECON, so technically at war, but no deployments yet or official declarations, and no idea in which theater I may become involved.

Sur Abruzzi, as a member of ODECON is fighting against the GWO. Also, I haven't committed to a theater yet, so don't expect an official declaration of war from my nation and ORBAT deployment until the theater I am participating in is decided. Just one big FYI to cover every thing.


ODECON member, biding my time, yada yada. Now I won't be showing up completely out of left field

We're so flipped.
The Grand World Order
29-12-2008, 04:46
This would be true if they weren't...you know...ship-shaped and spewing smoke out of their engines. And moving. And flying a flag. And reflecting radar waves. And using radar/sonar. And ship-shaped.

Oh, wait, I said that already...yeah, that's a pretty important one.

I was meaning visible to the naked eye, and of the ships themselves, not the effects they produce (Smoke). Even still, smoke is hard to see on the pitch black stretches of the ocean. And our flag is black and blue, no actual bright colors.
Kargucagstan
29-12-2008, 04:59
Stok, I need to know where you are for sure. If you are in Eurasia like your NS Wiki page claims, then my fleet will be there by tomorrow. I'll have a second IC post up if that is the case.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:01
We're so flipped.

You wouldn't be if you became a Protectorate. :-p
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 05:03
You wouldn't be if you became a Protectorate. :-p

still, no thanks
Sans Semmes
29-12-2008, 05:03
We're sending out 18 Frigates and 10 Cruisers out to Chazakain to protect our Medical Ships.
We won't attack unless you attack us first.
We promise.
Santheres
29-12-2008, 05:05
still, no thanks

You could also surrender. :-p Someone's invading you, no?
Alliance Star
29-12-2008, 05:06
Also a member of ODECON. Deployment, Theater, and all related there in; is to be determined.

@Buddha: My eyes are on you. ;D
Sans Semmes
29-12-2008, 05:06
All those with Stok be on high alert please, Buddha is temporarily landing planes in Sans Semmes under terms of the ceasefire. Please be ready if they launch a surprise attack.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:08
Also a member of ODECON. Deployment, Theater, and all related there in is to be determined.

@Buddha: My eyes are on you. ;D

Is that a threat? I'd launch a preemptive strike, but are you serious about invading me?
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:10
Royal British States, you have a map?
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:11
Buddha, you're becoming dangerously overextended...
Sans Semmes
29-12-2008, 05:11
Is that a threat? I'd launch a preemptive strike, but are you serious about invading me?

If Buddha doesn't attack Sans Semmes while their planes are with us, then Sans Semmes will send Medic ships for Buddha if you get invaded.
Deal?
Alliance Star
29-12-2008, 05:12
"My eyes are on you" does not mean, "INVASION!" D=

That, and this is OoC chatter. ^_^
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:13
Leistung, you don't know the size of my fleet, and I'm not going to tell you until you decide to invade the mainland. :D And the Cnians will hold their side of the agreement, plus that comment was jokingly at Alliance Star, but anyways, deal. hehe :)
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:14
Leistung, you don't know the size of my fleet

Logistically, I mean. You've got men in every corner of the world at this point, and all of them need food/water/clothes/ammo.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:15
True, but my logistics units are civilian companies so it's easier on the money pocket, but either way I don't fear debt. :)
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 05:16
You could also surrender. :-p Someone's invading you, no?

sort of, his/her/it's ships are still 2,000+ from anywhere near Chazakain and I'm still buying/building ships/defenses so eh.
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:18
True, but my logistics units are civilian companies so it's easier on the money pocket, but either way I don't fear debt. :)

Civilian companies? You mean you've got civies riding in trucks bringing men to the front and ferrying supplies to them? You've got civies distributing ammo and repairing tanks?
Stoklomolvi
29-12-2008, 05:19
Jeez, I leave for two days and shit hits the fan several times over. As a recap, the behaviour exhibited by several members in the other OOC thread is precisely why I hate them. Ironic, yes?

Regardless, Kargucagstan you're not going to be able to pop into my region without entering through that strange portal thingy that I made up so that I could keep my region to be a sphere instead of a flat sheet of paper. So, you're going to have to come in from the west, and you can look at the region map to see that black blob in the Atlantic.

What exactly happened over the past two days anyway?
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:19
Yes, sir.

EDIT: Repairing tanks is more of the personnel unit's repair crew do.
Sans Semmes
29-12-2008, 05:22
What exactly happened over the past two days anyway?

I got crapped on by Bhudda, lol. Had to call truce.

'grats on 1000, too, Mr Invader sir.
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 05:23
shit hit the fans as you said, I've been "invaded" at least one other has already been knocked out while a whole bunch jumped on your little commie beat down on righties. though so far its been pretty limited to 10 or so people supporting various theaters, while the others have hanged back, like the vultures they are!:mad:
Ralkovia
29-12-2008, 05:23
Jeez, I leave for two days and shit hits the fan several times over. As a recap, the behaviour exhibited by several members in the other OOC thread is precisely why I hate them. Ironic, yes?

Regardless, Kargucagstan you're not going to be able to pop into my region without entering through that strange portal thingy that I made up so that I could keep my region to be a sphere instead of a flat sheet of paper. So, you're going to have to come in from the west, and you can look at the region map to see that black blob in the Atlantic.

What exactly happened over the past two days anyway?


WTF are you even saying?
Alliance Star
29-12-2008, 05:23
@Sans Semmes: In your post in the Oil Theater, do you have any flat-tops, refueling aircraft, etc. in that group you just posted?
Sans Semmes
29-12-2008, 05:25
In your post in the Oil Theater, do you have any flat-tops, refueling aircraft, etc. in that group you just posted?

Good point, forgot about that.
Adding aircraft carriers, will edit now.
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 05:25
WTF are you even saying?

that we can't nuke/wmds/touch/easily reach him. though it makes it easier for us to(he can't have that many satellites on this earth, targeting our cities with his nukes would be a bus, his supply chain on this earth is nonexistent,etc.
Korintar
29-12-2008, 05:25
I wish to open another front in the war... Something along the lines of Korintar's neutrality being violated. This includes:
stationing forces, albeit secretly, on Korintari soil
Attacking merchant ships sent to belligerents (e.g. unrestricted submarine warfare)
Arms Smuggling
Espionage
outright invasion (possible, but not interesting)
terrorist attack
If my nation does declare war, I intend to join Stoklomolvi's side. Any takers from GWO's side?
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:26
Yes, sir.

EDIT: Repairing tanks is more of the personnel unit's repair crew do.

Couldn't I just attack your supply lines with impunity then? I mean, civies don't know how to fight, and presumably they're not trained. If they were, they wouldn't be civies...
Ralkovia
29-12-2008, 05:27
No no no read the post of why he did it and then read it again it makes no sense
Stoklomolvi
29-12-2008, 05:28
Chazakain, wrong. You can enter the region through the big Atlantic portal. That's pretty much it.

Nearly every region in NS is part of NSEarth. NSEarth is really big. Thus, nearly every region is flat. I wanted to keep my region a sphere, not a flat sheet.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:30
Yes, but that may have negative political repercussions. But more importantly, of course they're guarded, albeit minimally, but if you were to attack them that route would simply be heavier guarded that last time. But really the amount of ships to defend a single route is judged by suggestion by the Civilian Leader and military commander.
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:34
Yes, but that may have negative political repercussions. But more importantly, of course they're guarded, albeit minimally, but if you were to attack them that route would simply be heavier guarded that last time. But really the amount of ships to defend a single route is judged by suggestion by the Civilian Leader and military commander.

Not if they're being used as weapons of war.

Alright, so basically you're RPing your logistics corps as being made up of contractors? I suppose I could see that. I'm not trying to blow holes in your plans or anything, I'm just curious about how you're planning to pay for everything that you're doing, and reminding you that you can't send a million men ashore in mere minutes. Or hours. Or days. Weeks would be more accurate, and even then, you'd need a deep-water port to offload the correct number of supplies to ensure that your men aren't starving.
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 05:34
If my nation does declare war, I intend to join Stoklomolvi's side. Any takers from GWO's side?

Why would we do that, we already have enough enemies...(darn commie vultures!)
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:35
True, but fluid time helps a lot. :D
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:36
Why would we do that, we already have enough enemies...

I'm sorry, but this question has been on my mind ever since this war started...is there any particular IC reason why you're supporting GWO and the IFA?
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:38
True, but fluid time helps a lot. :D

True, but securing a deep-water port would need to be RPed, as would the initial landing to get the guys who are going to take the port ashore.
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 05:49
I'm sorry, but this question has been on my mind ever since this war started...is there any particular IC reason why you're supporting GWO and the IFA?

erh, not really anymore, my original reason was because I saw myakoo write a very bad invasion thread then Stok wrote another kind of crappy reason to invade/declare and it kind of snowballed...
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 05:50
Denecaep, u got a TG.
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:52
erh, not really anymore, my original reason was because I saw myakoo write a very bad invasion thread then it kind of snowballed...

Just wondering. The reason I ask is that your nation doesn't seem overly...evil. GWO, on the other hand, is evil with a capital E. Sponsoring terrorists, cannibalizing POWs, burning POWs, massacring civilians, etc. You're going to end up on the wrong side of an ODECON cannon if you side with someone who sponsored the terrorist attacks on my nation.
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 05:55
well there is also the Greater Chazaka Civil war(which i really need to rp/write a story thread about) that made communism look outright evil for a good 40 years in all my puppets and since my king is in his late 50/early 60's he'd still remember it.

so in a right vs left war, Chazakain would almost always side with the right
Leistung
29-12-2008, 05:58
well there is also the Greater Chazaka Civil war(which i really need to rp/write a story thread about) that made communism look outright evil for a good 40 years in all my puppets and since my king is in his late 50/early 60's he'd still remember it.

so in a right vs left war, Chazakain would almost always side with the right

We as an alliance are generally capitalist (right)--we just see the potential threat of a crazed fascist killing innocent civilians in the heart of my capital city.
Korintar
29-12-2008, 06:00
snip (darn commie vultures!)
correction: We are not communists. For though Korintar has a planned economy, it is not centrally planned command economy. Nor are we authoritarian or restrict freedom as communists have done. Our gov't. is based on RL Swiss Confederation and our economy is, generally, based upon pareconist principles.
Kargucagstan
29-12-2008, 06:08
Regardless, Kargucagstan you're not going to be able to pop into my region without entering through that strange portal thingy that I made up so that I could keep my region to be a sphere instead of a flat sheet of paper. So, you're going to have to come in from the west, and you can look at the region map to see that black blob in the Atlantic.

Stok, I appreciate that you have reasons for wanting to be in a separate “Earth” from NSEarth. NSE makes absolutely no sense. I think it’s been calculated to have something like the density of sulfur just because of how big it has to be to fit all these millions of nations. However, simply removing yourself from the planet isn’t a step I think I can accept. By only having one portal you make it easy for your planet to guard against incursions while in the real world it would not be possible to do so. You also don’t face much competition, and it’s wholly unrealistic.

That’s not to say I won’t RP with the portal. You can go ahead and keep it and have it in your posts, no objections, I just won’t acknowledge it. For example, I am fine RPing with Lynion despite him being a nation of vampires. To me, IC, they are simply pale humans, nothing more. So if you were to open a second portal between our two worlds, except in the east, to me my ships would just be sailing east but to you they would be coming from a portal. Does that work for you?
Stoklomolvi
29-12-2008, 06:17
Kar, that would be perfectly fine by me.

I finished my ORBAT for the oil province theatre.
Imperial isa
29-12-2008, 06:21
example, I am fine RPing with Lynion despite him being a nation of vampires.

and werewolves
Ralkovia
29-12-2008, 06:24
and bears OH MY
Kargucagstan
29-12-2008, 06:30
Awesome, Stok, thanks. I’ll have the post of them arriving (with ORBAT!) tomorrow.

and werewolves
Uh… soldiers who could use a shave?
Lynion
29-12-2008, 08:07
@ Kargucagstan: when I joined NS, there was no rules stating I have to be Human in order to play the game. Besides, being the same eventually becomes boring. In the mean time, if your going to contiune to mock my species, I might not as well be taking part in this world war.
Royal British States
29-12-2008, 08:11
Lynion, care to launch an attack together on some guy on GWO's side?
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 08:19
RBS, do you have a map?
Royal British States
29-12-2008, 08:21
RBS, do you have a map?

Ya, almost completed. Will be ready soon
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 08:29
Alright, thank you.
The Philippiniada
29-12-2008, 08:31
I don't see me in that list. hmm
Royal British States
29-12-2008, 08:45
The last thing I want is to fight Buddha C
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 08:46
You don't have to. You know the other options. Anyways I'll be back in about an hour or two, hopefully you'll be on RBS.
Royal British States
29-12-2008, 08:50
I will be. Its like only 3.49pm over here
Greal
29-12-2008, 09:10
I'll be posting my IC post soon.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 10:02
Map yet? And you live in japan or some other asian country?
Royal British States
29-12-2008, 10:54
Singapore
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 11:20
Thread up, map might be needed later, but I just want to get the naval bit over with.
Royal British States
29-12-2008, 11:27
I knew it! You would had attacked me.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 11:29
Sorry :-/, but war is war. Anyways do you want the default fleet layout? (This will be for ONE Naval Battle Group, though if there's more just imagine everything times two pretty much.) But once the battle gets real heavy I can't say that the layout I sent you will be of much use. By the way, if I do send you it I ask that you keep it to yourself, as I will only offer it to those that I am attack (or vice-versa) and they must ask for it first.
Royal British States
29-12-2008, 11:44
Sorry :-/, but war is war. Anyways do you want the default fleet layout? (This will be for ONE Naval Battle Group, though if there's more just imagine everything times two pretty much.) But once the battle gets real heavy I can't say that the layout I sent you will be of much use. By the way, if I do send you it I ask that you keep it to yourself, as I will only offer it to those that I am attack (or vice-versa) and they must ask for it first.

I dont get what you say?
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 12:09
Lol, just check your TGs now. :)
Fictions
29-12-2008, 12:26
I already asked over MSN but I think I'll ask again here just to be sure;
For my own sanity, can most of the actual battles that happen on the "cry havoc" thread happen on land?
Whiskeasy
29-12-2008, 12:31
Well, try not to put a navy in the way and there won't be one.
Fictions
29-12-2008, 12:33
You can still use ships, but don't expect decent replies to that, unless I use my own little brand of kamikaze/suicide attacks (You'll be seeing some of them, just a little warning ;))
Whiskeasy
29-12-2008, 12:39
What! Your country isn't full of extremists! Is it? <.< >.>
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 12:55
By the way RBS, just imagine that the submarine missiles were launched, but the helicopters fell back and that assault stopped, along with the air assault from the A-10s and F-14s on your ship, though they're still ready to attack, flying over your ships. Same with the YA-42"E"s that are engaging your bombers, they're just following them right now.

EDIT: Fictions, you still haven't told by Civilian Corps where you want them.
Fictions
29-12-2008, 12:59
What! Your country isn't full of extremists! Is it? <.< >.>

Maybe...Well, there are enough for the causal observer to think it is xD


EDIT: Buddha, i'm still trying to figure out how you got into the country, and um, I'm not too sure who your guy was talking to...
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 13:01
Yea, that's a bit vague. Anyways I sent the fleet in back in your Seed of Revolution threads. Ill TG or MSN u the link.
Fictions
29-12-2008, 13:02
ok, TG, i don't have MSN installed on this computer
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 14:23
Still waiting on casualties from RBS.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 14:26
Lynion, I'm going to make my decision when the time comes to make it. You badgering me with what you think might happen won't affect my decision, so please stop cluttering up the main thread with it.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 14:28
And RBS I'll accept the 24 hour OOC ceasefire, but I'm still waiting for the casualty listing.
Lynion
29-12-2008, 14:29
Then please, prove to me there's another opition I haven't seen. Everyone gambles with the things they do and I'm making a massive gamble. However, no matter what you decide, based on theory, your going to spread out your forces. Then again, your not me.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 14:29
Then please, prove to me there's another opition I haven't seen. Everyone gambles with the things they do and I'm making a massive gamble. However, no matter what you decide, based on theory, your going to spread out your forces. Then again, your not me.

Exactly.
Lynion
29-12-2008, 14:39
I know. I had to say that didn't I?

*Woff nods his head at me*

Crap. Anyhow, I might figure out another possibility by the time the battle 're-starts'.
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 14:42
Well, I'll probably send another fleet to help the attack, but that'll take a few days to get to the colony.
Leistung
29-12-2008, 17:37
Buddha, stop attacking my members when I'm asleep :D
Kargucagstan
29-12-2008, 17:45
In the mean time, if your going to contiune to mock my species, I might not as well be taking part in this world war.

I was not “mocking your species,” I was merely trying to rationalize vampires and werewolves in a modern tech roleplay. Both being completely impossible in reality, it’s not an easy task. Originality is great, but you can’t force it on others.
Fictions
29-12-2008, 17:48
Normally I would agree with that and refuse to even acknowledge the existence of said creatures. BUT in the interest of this roleplay I am ignoring this policy and accepting them without question...

...Unless they happen to be furries, I will NEVER accept those abominations xD
Stoklomolvi
29-12-2008, 19:41
Ralk, do you have that old map of your country? How large is your Yemeni colony?
Ralkovia
29-12-2008, 19:59
yeah, I own all of present day yemen, and yes I'll get you it in a minute.
Ralkovia
29-12-2008, 20:04
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/arrondock/?action=view&current=Ralkoviamaps1.png


I've made some changes to appease greston. And the blue just means that its in the process of being used in an rp.
Stoklomolvi
29-12-2008, 20:13
What's the pink? Know that I cannot recognise any of your influence in anywhere except the Arabian Peninsula due to the strange warping of the world. For instance, I own Korea and Alaska.
Ralkovia
29-12-2008, 20:17
(Yeah I know everybody has claims that intersect. We need like 8 different earths to appease everybody. Pink means that its a territory while red means its a colony. A territory doesn't have the same rights as a colony.

For instance a territory has a curfew while a colony does not
A territory can not form militias or national guard while a colony can.

etc.)
Fictions
29-12-2008, 20:18
That is why I make up my own place instead of using RL ones ;)
Buddha C
29-12-2008, 21:11
To the participants of the RBS RP:
There's a 24 hour OOC halt, so I'll be responding in that time.
Kargucagstan
29-12-2008, 21:40
Finally decided on what forces to send in the initial armada. I am sending seven CBGs, fifteen SBGs, eleven ASBGs and roughly 200 Lykaon class attack submarines in the first wave, for a total of about 1,900-2,000 ships. For reference, this is what each group is composed of:

Carrier Battle Group (CBG)
4x Abeiron class CV
1x Nikon class BCG
5x Oulixeus class CG
25x Pantherus class DDG
10x Phoibos class FFG
15x Ikaros class FF
10x Aoknos missile dirigible
5x Pantognosia AWACS dirigible
11x Kephas class AOE
Total: 86

Surface Battle Group (SBG)
1x Kharon class BB
2x Ioses class BBG
2x Nikon class BCG
1x Sotiris class CVGE
5x Oulixeus class CG
25x Pantherus class DDG
10x Ikaros class FF
8x Aoknos missile dirigible
4x Pantognosia AWACS dirigible
6x Kephas class AOE
Total: 64

Anti-Submarine Battle Group (ASBG)
1x Oulixeus class CG
2x Ares class LPH
10x Ikaros class FF
8x Aoknos missile dirigible
4x Pantognosia AWACS dirigible
3x Kephas class AOE
Total: 28

Let me know if you have any questions. IC post incoming.
Stoklomolvi
29-12-2008, 22:01
That's directed towards my eastern coast, yes? I should warn you, if it is, you'll have to park them 250km out from my coast to be in international waters. Go within 160 or so km and you'll be facing barrages of nuclear shells of 1 MT each.
Kargucagstan
29-12-2008, 22:04
You claim 250km as your territorial waters? It's only 22km IRL. It doesn't matter to me, just wondering.
Leistung
29-12-2008, 22:07
You claim 250km as your territorial waters? It's only 22km IRL. It doesn't matter to me, just wondering.

Yeah, but that's based on a UN agreement. Technically nations are permitted to set their own territorial water limit, but I think an acceptable maximum would be around 300 km. As long as you can support your claims and not block trade, I don't see any problem with larger territorial water claims.
Stoklomolvi
29-12-2008, 22:07
250km as my territorial waters, 300 km further as my EEZ. I have the ability to enforce it, so I do. :p

I'll be curious as to your ships sitting within 550 km of my shore, but I'm not sure if you've declared war or not yet. And I realise that IRL 22km was established by the UN, but there is no UN here.
Kargucagstan
29-12-2008, 22:12
True, true. I'll keep all that in mind. Now, I have not declared war nor do I intend to. The fleet will be off your coast for the next 24 hours (had to cut it down from 72 since the new term starts soon), and if you haven't stopped your crusade against Fascism by then I declare a full-on blockade, followed by an invasion. That doesn't have to happen, all you have to do is retract your statement about Fascism being your target and clarify that you're going after GWO and his allies.
Greal
29-12-2008, 23:43
I have Turkey as a colony actually..... :rolleyes:
Punckeds
29-12-2008, 23:47
2And I realise that IRL 22km was established by the UN, but there is no UN here.

Thinking about WA...Thinking about resolution...
Fictions
29-12-2008, 23:48
Wa had no real authority to non WA members
Zinaire
29-12-2008, 23:50
Thinking about WA...Thinking about resolution...

The WA has no authority over anyone on II.
Korintar
30-12-2008, 00:20
It can be used as a basis in RP war crimes trials. But those IIers who are not WA members are not bound by the resolutions and may do whatever they please with impunity, regardless of how horrid it may be.
Fictions
30-12-2008, 00:22
haha, that's why I quit the WA, now I can oppress my peoples as much as I like xD
Anagonia
30-12-2008, 01:04
I think some people might be borderling in here? If not, ignore this. I request simply to keep it civil, lol. :D

Also, someone give me an update on threads and combatants so I can add changes for later.
Whiskeasy
30-12-2008, 01:06
Well I'm in invading Fictions with NB and LS. Also apart of ODECON.
Anagonia
30-12-2008, 01:09
Well I'm in invading Fictions with NB and LS. Also apart of ODECON.

Alright, your already added me thinks if your ODECON by default, lol.
Stoklomolvi
30-12-2008, 01:15
http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/w/images/a/a3/Stoklomolvi_administrative_divisions.png

Done with provinces map.
Anagonia
30-12-2008, 01:18
Hey guy's.

I just got done reviewing the new posts and am delighted to see much participation. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be of much use tonight. I had a horrible time sleeping, nearly zilch, and worked a twelve-hour shift straight from start to finish. Might not seem much to most, but it is to me right now. I can't think of anything worth a flip to logically place in a response. So I'll get some rest tonight and make my posts tomorrow. Either that or New Year's depending on how beaten down my job get's me. XD

Hope you understand, and keep posting damnit! For the purpose of the RP's anyone can post the continued advance of the Anagonian fleets, except submarines, to basically add to the RP. Hope this helps!
Anagonia
30-12-2008, 01:27
ALSO

Added Buddha C vs. Royal British States and ODECON thingie.
Imperial isa
30-12-2008, 01:31
It can be used as a basis in RP war crimes trials. But those IIers who are not WA members are not bound by the resolutions and may do whatever they please with impunity, regardless of how horrid it may be.
no it can't be used as a basis in RP war crimes trials as last time someone did that it didn't really go too well
Korintar
30-12-2008, 06:20
Oh, yeah. It was the Aelita/Mewsland trial. I was supposed to be a participant in the thread, but RL caught up to me so I could not participate. As I recall did it not end with nuclear weapons? (rhetorical question, could have entered off topic zone... sorry)
Parilisa
30-12-2008, 12:26
Is it too late to join the war? I'd like to join, but I can never get too involved in any threads because they always move to fast. No decent Parilisan would miss the oppurtunity to fight fascism, so I'd like to do a one on one battle against a fascist state. Dunno if that'll be allright with you guys though, what do you say?
Salzland
30-12-2008, 14:42
Oh, yeah. It was the Aelita/Mewsland trial. I was supposed to be a participant in the thread, but RL caught up to me so I could not participate. As I recall did it not end with nuclear weapons? (rhetorical question, could have entered off topic zone... sorry)

To veer off topic for a moment, I was the individual in question who grew so frustrated at the rampant God-moding and other BS on the part of Mewsland that I pushed the button on him/her, turning his/her country into an irradiated nuclear wasteland.

Anyway, I don't see why it would be too late for you to join, Parilisa. There are plenty of theaters of war yet to be opened.
Skgorria
30-12-2008, 16:51
I'd like to send apologies to Anagonia from myself and Atopiana - it's been a mental couple of days. My boss is busy firing everyone in a somewhat confused attempt to avoid baliffs :confused:

Anyway. the embarassing thing is that we never really made a map of our nations. One is already in progress and will hopefully done soon.

I'd also like to express my amazement at how civil things are, well done all!


I was the individual in question who grew so frustrated at the rampant God-moding and other BS on the part of Mewsland that I pushed the button on him/her, turning his/her country into an irradiated nuclear wasteland.

*rampant applause*
Chazaka
30-12-2008, 20:01
Oh, yeah. It was the Aelita/Mewsland trial. I was supposed to be a participant in the thread, but RL caught up to me so I could not participate. As I recall did it not end with nuclear weapons? (rhetorical question, could have entered off topic zone... sorry)

yeah that was fun, sneaked in shotguns killing holograms, half alien half human hybrids, defense councilor going on a rampage killing several of my citizens and all kind of weird shit happened. At least Aelita/Mews II had a fun death.
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14264919&postcount=74)
sorry about the off topic

Now is Chazakain going to get invaded or not?
Parilisa
30-12-2008, 20:37
Bump for response to my post :)
Korintar
30-12-2008, 21:45
Chazaka, Chazakain is one of your puppets I take it. I TGed GWO some ideas I have floating around, and I was thinking I could have a merchant vessel travel to one of the players' nations, and Chazakainian naval commanders could suspect it is carrying weapons to belligerents and attack it. Korintar blows things out of proportion and the stage is set for warfare with Korintar, at some point invading Chazakain or vice versa.
Akimonad
30-12-2008, 21:55
Out of... curiosity, what's the current status of the Cnian fleet sent to invade San Semmes?
Buddha C
30-12-2008, 21:57
It was going to be transferred to Grand World Order command, but now it's about 83% of the way back to Cnian shores for repair.
Akimonad
30-12-2008, 22:05
Bugger. I was going to come up behind it and yell boo really loudly.
Stoklomolvi
30-12-2008, 22:25
Hey Aki. You can still run up to GWO's capital and yell boo anyway. :P
Ralkovia
30-12-2008, 22:38
ralkovia has reinstated its neutrality proclamation once again
Sans Semmes
30-12-2008, 22:46
Stok, we'll re-declare War soon, as long as we have support. It'll be some time in the new year.
Chazakain
30-12-2008, 22:58
Chazaka, Chazakain is one of your puppets I take it. I TGed GWO some ideas I have floating around, and I was thinking I could have a merchant vessel travel to one of the players' nations, and Chazakainian naval commanders could suspect it is carrying weapons to belligerents and attack it. Korintar blows things out of proportion and the stage is set for warfare with Korintar, at some point invading Chazakain or vice versa.

since Anagonia invasion of Chazakain seemed to have stalled that sounds very interesting.
Korintar
30-12-2008, 23:04
I intend to start such a thread later, three to five hours from now, perhaps?
Chazakain
30-12-2008, 23:15
works for me
kenavt
30-12-2008, 23:19
Hey, Stok/allies, can I help out at all?
Ralkovia
30-12-2008, 23:23
This is getting rather boring. The prospect of war was cool at first in the beginning but now this is just dragging on and break is coming to an end real soon.
Fictions
30-12-2008, 23:32
I am actually really stuck, I would continue, but I have to reply to TNB's arrival, but he's only established a beachhead at the moment and I have no clue how to react to that... So yea... I'll figure something out I'm sure... I'm sure I sound kinda stupid at this point...
Ralkovia
30-12-2008, 23:36
Tnb?
Fictions
30-12-2008, 23:41
The Northern Baltic
Chazakain
30-12-2008, 23:42
psst fictions
Best way to repel an enemy at the beaches.... (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5025)
of course if she/he/it's already landed your pretty much screwed but still maybe it will help.
Fictions
31-12-2008, 00:22
Thanks... That's just given me an idea

*Is writing reply*
Chazakain
31-12-2008, 00:23
Thanks... That's just given me an idea

*Is writing reply*

glad I could help
Fictions
31-12-2008, 01:23
And it's up, thanks again for the help
Heirosoloa
31-12-2008, 01:35
If I launched an invasion of Buddha C (Who's forces are stretched) would anybody come with me?
Seems like he's one of the main enemy forces.
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 01:46
I'm focusing on the oil province to little effect since I'm not posting. :P

I'm not sure how to begin my invasion. He has mines everywhere, apparently, which should in reality kill his logistics further, but I'm not even going to ask. I could sit outside of his minefields and starve all of his men.
Heirosoloa
31-12-2008, 01:51
Couldn't you just bombard his forces from a distance? If you can't land, he can't defend. Couldn't you reach his forces by land or air? Surprise attack, y'know.

Although he most likely has large amounts SAM batteries and men in trenches.
Akimonad
31-12-2008, 01:53
I'm not sure how to begin my invasion. He has mines everywhere, apparently, which should in reality kill his logistics further, but I'm not even going to ask. I could sit outside of his minefields and starve all of his men.

Shell the beach and turn the minefields into wastes.

If I launched an invasion of Buddha C (Who's forces are stretched) would anybody come with me?
Seems like he's one of the main enemy forces.

I probably would, at the risk of looking like I'm aiding dirty reds.
Unkerlantum
31-12-2008, 02:25
Just wondering if this whole thing is still open or not.

I have facist elements in my society and government ie very militaristic, strong sense of nationalism. However there are also elements within my government and society not in line with facist views. Elections to certain government positions.

At any rate I would start off neutral but would be open to talks with both sides and could perhaps be persuaded to go either way.

During the course of the conflict I could fall into a civil war where the army and military leaders would support the installation of a fully facist regieme, against forces supporting democracy.
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 02:26
Unkerlantum, your merger prevents you from gaining entry.
Sans Semmes
31-12-2008, 02:45
I'm not sure how to begin my invasion. He has mines everywhere, apparently, which should in reality kill his logistics further, but I'm not even going to ask. I could sit outside of his minefields and starve all of his men.

Get your forces to sit on the beach and lol at them? Bombing the minefield should be a good option. =/
Buddha C
31-12-2008, 02:52
San Semmes, if you betray our little agreement I'm going to make you regret it. Just a warning. ;)
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 02:56
Buddha C, do you have any strength at all? If so, stop oppressing the small countries and look to the larger ones, like myself. I'll blow the crap out of your little navy.

Take it as a challenge. ;)
Buddha C
31-12-2008, 02:58
[OOC: Nah, I'll let that Kargucagstan do it for me, and if he decides not to, then maybe I'll come for you after you get kicked out of GWO ;).

I'm not trying to be a jerk, just a bit of competitive talking. :)]
Kargucagstan
31-12-2008, 02:59
I'm going to post the Stoklomolvi theater in a moment, soon as I'm done here. The second fleet is on its way, blockade has begun. Incoming ships are: 2 SBGs, 2 CBGs, 4 ASBGs and 15 AAGs. This is a total of about another 1,800 ships (largely docks and transports) and roughly 525,000 soldiers. That's purely for establishing a beach head, of course. Here's exactly what's in each battle group:

Surface Battle Group (SBG)
1x Kharon class BB
2x Ioses class BBG
2x Nikon class BCG
1x Sotiris class CVGE (30 aircraft each)
5x Oulixeus class CG
25x Pantherus class DDG
10x Ikaros class FF
8x Aoknos missile dirigible
4x Pantognosia AWACS dirigible
6x Kephas class AOE
Total: 60

Carrier Battle Group (CBG)
4x Abeiron class CV (84 aircraft each)
1x Nikon class BCG
5x Oulixeus class CG
25x Pantherus class DDG
10x Phoibos class FFG
15x Ikaros class FF
10x Aoknos missile dirigible
5x Pantognosia AWACS dirigible
11x Kephas class AOE
Total: 81

Anti-Submarine Battle Group (ASBG)
1x Oulixeus class CG
2x Ares class LPH
10x Ikaros class FF
8x Aoknos missile dirigible
4x Pantognosia AWACS dirigible
3x Kephas class AOE
Total: 24

Amphibious Assault Group (AAG)
2x Kharon class BB
1x Nikon class BCG
2x Sotiris class CVGE (30 aircraft each)
2x Oulixeus class CG
25x Pantherus class DDG
10x Phoibos class FFG
10x Ikaros class FF
3x Stefanos class LHD (9,000 men each)
8x Ektor class LPD (1,000 men each)
15x Antonios class AKR
4x Aoknos missile dirigible
2x Pantognosia AWACS dirigible
13x Kephas class AOE
Total: 95
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 03:04
Hmm, a blockade won't really do much for a country that doesn't trade much. :P

I'll just raise awareness for my soldiers, people, and paramilitary.
Korintar
31-12-2008, 03:34
Thread created: entitled "Lost in Translation".
Buddha C
31-12-2008, 03:36
I think using this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14341091#post14341091) would be much more effective, since it already has to do with Chazakain. Of course I never finished reading your thread so I could be wrong, but just like to put it out there in case you missed it.
Unkerlantum
31-12-2008, 03:39
Unkerlantum, your merger prevents you from gaining entry.

If I disregard the secondary state and make it non-existant and I use my 4.756 population is this acceptable?

Mostly the merger is to keep my friends nation alive in offsite rp's in an IC sense anyway and not so much for II.
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 03:52
Likely so, Unker.

And everyone stray away from my theatre. The gloves are off. This fight is mine. :P
Kargucagstan
31-12-2008, 04:18
So does that include Anagonia, too? I think he said he wasn't going to be able to post today anyway, because of lack of sleep.

I'll have a reply up in a bit.

EDIT: Just did the calculations on that arty you fired at me. My sources all state the maximum range for a rocket-assisted, large-bore shell to be about 130 nautical miles if it has a good tail-wind to help push it along. I parked the forward elements of my fleets at least 200, 250 nautical miles from your coast. Some quick conversions with an online program put 160km (the range you said your guns had) at 86 nautical miles. So, I guess the shots fell a little short.
Unkerlantum
31-12-2008, 04:23
I tg'd you Stok
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 04:47
Kar, unless you're within 160 km you're not going to be able to blockade me. At all. One reason being that most of my trade either takes place along my Baltic coast or between cities. I assumed that since you said you blocked off entryways into Japan you're sitting between Korea and Japan, Hokkaido and Japan, and Sakhalin and Hokkaido. Sit anywhere else and you're not really blockading me at all.
Korintar
31-12-2008, 05:12
Buddha C, be that as it may, I think it would make a bad Rp for me to go from neutrality to warfare with Chazakain without just, IC cause, esp with that battle being well in progress, which is the purpose of the thread I created.
Parilisa
31-12-2008, 13:21
Is it too late to join the war? I'd like to join, but I can never get too involved in any threads because they always move to fast. No decent Parilisan would miss the oppurtunity to fight fascism, so I'd like to do a one on one battle against a fascist state. Dunno if that'll be allright with you guys though, what do you say?
Lynion
31-12-2008, 16:35
You can join Parilisa.

Happy New Year everyone!
Chernobyl-Pripyat
31-12-2008, 16:45
Just so Anagonia knows, my neutrality has been revoked, and I officially declared war in the other thread
Sans Semmes
31-12-2008, 21:42
And everyone stray away from my theatre. The gloves are off. This fight is mine. :P

Can I keep my medics there? =o
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 22:15
Sure :P .

Buddha, until you garner up your conscripts and send them my way, I will call you a cowardly...CAPSICUM.
Unkerlantum
31-12-2008, 22:22
Hopefully this can stay civil, as this is the closest thing to a NS world war in quite awhile.
Sans Semmes
31-12-2008, 22:24
Someone needs to invade Buddha, lol.
Happy New Year.
Fictions
31-12-2008, 22:25
Meh, I think he's fine not invaded (Totally not bias >.>)

happy new year peoples
Sans Semmes
31-12-2008, 22:28
^i see what you did there. xD
Kargucagstan
31-12-2008, 22:36
Responded, finally
Soviet Aissur
31-12-2008, 23:08
Not sure if this was said but new theater http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578156

Add me in on the neutral sides, but I may join Stok. Attempted invasion of Stoklomolvi makes me mad. But I will probably just protect Aissurian trade in the area. Plus I don't have much time at the moment.
The Grand World Order
31-12-2008, 23:09
It appears Stok is already trying to do Nukespam.

Not only that, he fired nukes on a Gholgoth member. I'm not sure that's entirely good for him.
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 23:14
GWO, what is with you and your inability to take nukespam? Every time you see a nuclear attack you're all "YOU FAIL CUS U CANT FIGHT WITH CONVENTIONAL STUFF!" It was not a nuclear missile barrage, merely a short range nuclear cannon attack. And it was not really an attack, either, more a response to an attack by a Gholgoth member. If it were not for the fact that you continually threaten to ignore me if I touch my nuclear arsenal, you'd be a smoking crater.
Stoklomolvi
31-12-2008, 23:19
Kar, another map, with names

http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/w/images/4/4f/Stoklomolvi_administrative_divisions_names.png

Refrain from referring to places like "Korea" and "Russia," as they do not exist. China does, as a single entity, but only China. China's borders should be obvious on the map.
Fictions
31-12-2008, 23:21
I have to say, I don't like nuclear attacks either (I already said this) but I get over that by not having nuclear weapons myself.

In the interest of keeping things on the OOC thread civil...Please, just keep things, well, Civil.

I'm not saying people need to agree, I'm just saying don't turn this thread also into a flame war