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Pudite Assault Fleet, Landing Craft, Landing on Soviet Soil
Admiral Panslovak had returned from his observation room to the above command room, where he was observing his fleet. Behind him, as always, was Mr. Grey, who stood, as was his custom, silently observing the fight. The pair was an island in the sea of order within chaos that the main bridge was made up of at this moment. Orders were rushing in from every squadron and every battle group under his command.

The Admiral watched with a great sense of pride as his ships returned fire with great efficiency, launching wave after deadly wave of large heavy missiles, volleys of supercavitating 'underwater missiles', and hundreds of thousands of pounds of good old fashioned gun rounds.

As the combat fleet continued to wage its war, the attack submarines continued their maneuverings below the escort curtain, the missile submarines continued with their cruise-missile assault into the largest of the enemy ships, and the many Pudite aircraft fought above, Panslovak was brought to wonder about an entire further third of his command. This look of uncertainly and a look of deep thought slowly spread across his face. He turned to his advisor, "Grey, what should be done of the amphibious assault craft, they wait nearly helplessly in the rear, and will no doubt soon draw fire. We need to get those soldiers on the ground."

Mr. Grey was pulled from his trance and looked up to his commander, "Well, we have only two options, sir.", Mr. Grey paused for a second before continuing, "We could either leave these where they are and let their missile defenses, as well as those of the nearby craft, to protect them. Alternatively, we could deploy these craft now. We simply send them out behind the fleet and land the troops now."

The Admiral's face cleared as the thought quickly over his options, "Would not the craft be simply blown to pieces?"

"I remind you, never would they leave the protective curtain of our ships. To attack the landing craft, they must free up missile defense systems of some ships, and to keep these systems occupied they cannot attack the ships. I assure you, they'll make it."

The Admiral nodded as his advisor spoke, and when he finished, responded, "Well Grey, I then authorize you to order the amphibious fleet as you see fit. Spread the word, they'll be leaving the fleet and should be observed carefully. Also, place a couple squadrons of corvettes on reserve to cover their movement." And so it was done, the orders were given and the fleet began its new movements.

Falling away from the main fleet, still engaged with the Wanderjarian ships, the fleet of landing ships turned behind the massive battleships forming up behind the escort ships, the amphibious ships headed for the shore. More than two-hundred of the great things began crawling forward, closer and closer to land. As the leading ships neared the coastline, each would release two pairs of LCAC craft, which would then move to deposit their interned soldiers and vehicles to the designated beach.

As long as the assault went smoothly, the Pudite troops would land quickly and efficiently, depositing wave after wave of hardened Pudite marines onto these foreign shores. There the first Guardians ashore would establish some light fortifications around the landing zone while the further waves would reinforce them and unload any required supplies.

The soldiers were ashore, and it was now only a matter of time before the entire nation fell before the Dominion's power...

If you want to get Technical, i have about 900,000 in TWSP as we speak with roughly 3 Million on the way and if needed, i can send up to 90 Million more.

Thirty-Three million is a bit of a godmod...trust me. If I can't send in twenty million without people whining...lol.

Yeah, as noted in the Khornate incedemt, my logistics are stretched rather thin, getting volunteers is easy, getting to the battle is going to be tricky.

The only reason why I managed to get so many troops into TWSP and New Ausha is because I was using Naval units that aren't exactly mine anymore (Hurtian donation to GASN navy for example), I landed them over a long period of time (about a week of intensive airlifting using any cargo plane I could find within my borders) and the complete cooperation of the belligerants.

So landing all 33 million in one operation is out of the question

[sarcasm]
So can I borrow some of Blackhelm's boats for carrying, uh, foriegn aid?

Now was the time to strike back into the enemy lines. The arrival of Zukariaan forces brought the CA force here nearly back to the original number of 500,000 men. Grant it, they were missing a number of tanks and artillery, but they still had more men. The entire half million man force was ordered to chargem and charge they did. At once, the mercenaries all surged forward, hopefully with the Zukariaans paratroopers. Cyanogen Chloride shells filled the sky, smashing into the Soviet and Rustovian rear, prebenting any form of escape. Thousands of HE rockets began battering Rustovian lines, as thermobaric 105mm and 165mm shells crashed into the Soviet formations. The mighty Behemoth II's, followed by the smaller Leopard II's and Mercury APC's rumbled forward, all guns opening fire on the unfortunate enemy forces. AV-18's soared overhead, chainguns blazing with the full fury that was Griffincrest. F-4's took off from their base near Gustavich, fully loaded with several tons of cluster bombs. Mortar shells screamed through the sky, smashing into the shadows cast by the now setting sun. Mercenaries were exhasted after nearly a full day of fighting, but the money, glory, and fame they would gain from this battle still burned in their minds.

At sea, the Chieftains continued to fire shell after shell from their mighty railguns into the PROHT traitor fleet. Over 100 Hong-5 bombers, with Gnat escorts filled the air, determined to wipe these traitors from the sea. Zukariaan air and naval support was requested by Admiral Ironclaw, and hopefully soon the PROHT would learn not to play with terrorists.

At St. John, the mercenaries, without artillery save their 82mm mortars or any armor beyond that offered by the Mercury APC's, struck hard at the Rustovian rear. Mortar shells cracked down on the Rustovians, as a hundred thousand guns smashed into the Rustovian army's open rear, behind all of the fortifications they had built to defend them against a Maldorian counter-offensive out of St. John du Caen.

This would be a very bloody day indeed...

The fleet formed up with the Griffincrest one, ready to fight along with them when the enemies came or fired back. Bombers and fighters flew through the air, ready to help with anything needed of them. The landing craft came back for a second load of 200,000, the first batch of which was pushing towards the Griffincrest lines near Red City to reinforce them. The second group of 20,000 paratroopers began falling from the sky to reinforce the renewed assault by the Griffincrest mercenaries.

The first 200,000 men, tanks, and artillery were passing the Griffincrest airport being used. Bombers flew ahead to the Red City defences which were being assaulted and began hitting troop concentrations.

The Soviet Troops had been expecting a counter-attack, thus, they were prepared.
Hundreds of machine guns (SAWs and Chainsaws alike) opened fire on the infantry, Benemoth IIIs rolled around, firing their Stingers at the Ground Attack Planes and firing their dual 300mm cannons at the Benemoth IIs, Barracudas let go voley after volley of "Lances" at the confederate tanks, Sharpshooters targeted officers and drivers, trying to slow down the attack.

At sea, the Chieftains continued to fire shell after shell from their mighty railguns into the PROHT traitor fleet. Over 100 Hong-5 bombers, with Gnat escorts filled the air, determined to wipe these traitors from the sea. Zukariaan air and naval support was requested by Admiral Ironclaw, and hopefully soon the PROHT would learn not to play with terrorists.


When did you start shelling?

Post 921:
The ten Chieftain's dispathched earlier to tail the Hurtian fleet were smoewhat shocked when they saw the enemy fleet begin the shelling. After a few moments of seeming motionlessness, all ten ships tore to life, there many railguns aimed at the enemy fleet. Torpedoes too, slid through the water at the enemy vessels.
Guns did NOT fire

The Hatarians were now ready for a attack against the Griffencrest Armies, knowing the enemy was useing Chemical weapons, The Hataria soon would use that against them with a Deadly Mix of Cyanogen Chloride, VX, Sairin, Musterd Gas and other Poison Gases known as "Black Smoke" namely for its Color.

This gas was deadly and in tests, Gas Masks and NBC Suits were Useless against it. The Hatarians would use it if GC used it's own gas against the Hatarians.

The Grand Army soon started marching for The Attack as the Fleet headed to engage the Blackhelm Fleet.

The Battle was going to start soon

If you want to get Technical, i have about 900,000 in TWSP as we speak with roughly 3 Million on the way and if needed, i can send up to 90 Million more.

OOC: How do you have that many guys?!

OOC:
Logistics is run by a private corporation and what i've calculated out for my military comes under 3%, down near 2%, of my entire national population of my main nation. I don't count my puppet nations in my calculations. If i went 3% of my population i could have 1.3074 billion but i aint gonna go that far. I do have my men divided up though, information on that is on the website i made for my nation. The link is the first line of text in my signiture.

OOC:
Logistics is run by a private corporation and what i've calculated out for my military comes under 3%, down near 2%, of my entire national population of my main nation. I don't count my puppet nations in my calculations. If i went 3% of my population i could have 1.3074 billion but i aint gonna go that far. I do have my men divided up though, information on that is on the website i made for my nation. The link is the first line of text in my signiture.

OOC: Sooo... your people run logistics for your nation's military. With three percent of your population, which is about one-hundred and thirty million, you would need to have something around nine-hundred million people running logistics.

OOC: Sooo... your people run logistics for your nation's military. With three percent of your population, which is about one-hundred and thirty million, you would need to have something around nine-hundred million people running logistics.

OOC:
It's a big corporation. The largest in the nation. it employes almost 40% of the national population. So yes.

OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE
http://usera.imagecave.com/captaindeath/Flags/shazbotdomflag.jpg
TO: The International Community
FROM: Mr. Larry Williams, Minister of Foreign Affairs

Due to recent threats against the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom, I am authorised to give the following statment about our Embasy Exchange Program and it's participants. We have rewritten some of the contracts for Embasies in our nation and have made one adjustment that will effect the nation who owns the Embasy in a harsh way. The Embasy located at 1538 Embasy Square belonging to The Almighty Empire of Zukariaa has been Downgraded to GREY Level. They must now comply with new regulations within a period of One Week to continue to have an embasy within the Dark Empire. We appologize for the inconvenience that this causes The Almighty Empire of Zukariaa.

Zukariaan Nationals will now be deported back to their homeland in order to comply with the new regulatioins put in place upon them. Those that resist will be arrested and then forcibly deported back to The Almighty Empire of Zukariaa in a manner that is authorised by the Supreme Emperor. The list of regulations are listed in the attachment below. Again, we appologize for any inconvenience that this causes the Zukariaan Nationals.


ATTACHMENT:
SPECIFICTIONS FOR NATIONS WITH SEVERE RESTRICTIONS (Silver):
1. No More Than 10 Armed Guards.
2. No National Allowed Inside The Dark Empire (Except for 10 guards, 10 embasy staff the ambassador and his family).
3. Weekly Inspections by Shazbotdom SCS Marines.
4. No Men from the Clergy outside the Embasy Walls.
5. No More than five vehicles (No Armed, Armored, or Tanks)

OOC:
It's a big corporation. The largest in the nation. it employes almost 40% of the national population. So yes.

ooc Sorry to butt in everyone, I just happened to be reading this thread when I saw this:

40% of your population would be just about everyone over the age of 18 and under the age of 50. So unless the only industry in your country is logistics -- that means almost no retail, manufacturing, mining, or anything else; your people eat military rations and live in army-style tents, and either wear uniforms or walk around naked -- I doubt that would work very well. (And if you claimed that all of those other industries were part of that corporation, that would leave maybe 10-15% of the population for the actual logistics, which means you can support maybe 1-1.5% for military. And that's with a not particularly well-functioning economy either, what with just the one corporation. No competition or anything.)

Generally, the 3% is meant to include logistics. In a nation like mine, which is an OMG EVIL TOTALITARIAN CORPORATE POLICE STATE with COMPULSORY MILITARY SERVICE and BARCODING and other stuff, I use about 6% of my population for military. Only about a tenth of those actually fight, though, and I roleplay having a weak economy because of all of that government control and stuff.

Just a suggestion: think about this realistically, ok?

/ooc

ooc Sorry to butt in everyone, I just happened to be reading this thread when I saw this:

40% of your population would be just about everyone over the age of 18 and under the age of 50. So unless the only industry in your country is logistics -- that means almost no retail, manufacturing, mining, or anything else; your people eat military rations and live in army-style tents, and either wear uniforms or walk around naked -- I doubt that would work very well. (And if you claimed that all of those other industries were part of that corporation, that would leave maybe 10-15% of the population for the actual logistics, which means you can support maybe 1-1.5% for military. And that's with a not particularly well-functioning economy either, what with just the one corporation. No competition or anything.)

Generally, the 3% is meant to include logistics. In a nation like mine, which is an OMG EVIL TOTALITARIAN CORPORATE POLICE STATE with COMPULSORY MILITARY SERVICE and BARCODING and other stuff, I use about 6% of my population for military. Only about a tenth of those actually fight, though, and I roleplay having a weak economy because of all of that government control and stuff.

Just a suggestion: think about this realistically, ok?

/ooc

OOC: Thank you, now I don't have to type...

I use about three percent of my population in my military, and I promise I can out-totalitarian anyone here.

OFFICIAL MESSAGE FROM THE HIGH COMMANDER
TO: Mr. Larry Williams, Minister of Foreign Affairs
FROM: The High Commander, Henry Corrol

This is acceptable. While we do not wish to do such things, for fear of the security of our people there, we do not want to cut off ties for such a small thing.
Signed, The High Commander

OOC-Assume the stuff changes to suit the regulations. I don't feel like RPing it. <.<

OOC-By the way, TWSP has no defence budget.

Zukariaa;11772896']OOC-By the way, TWSP has no defence budget.

OOC: O RLY?

When did you notice?

Of course I dont have a defence budget, I use my Law & Order Budget to buy stuff.

So far, I've managed to save over 500 Billion USDs.

The Undershi Fleet of The Pacifics has begun to make its way towards the coast of TWSP. This is a massive fleet, consisting of the majority of the entire Undershi navy... and it seems that it has been, at last, commited.

OOC: Details soon to be available on the Undershi Military thread.

Of course I dont have a defence budget, I use my Law & Order Budget to buy stuff.

So far, I've managed to save over 500 Billion USDs.


So then you have no police force, other than MP's? Intersting.

So then you have no police force, other than MP's? Intersting.

No, I do have a Common Police.

@ Undershi

*Sigh* Well, I offered you peace yet, you refuse, war it will be then.

-Stuff-

OOC:
I RP my nation as i feel. My nation doesn't count those who are unable to work (Elderly, Children, Disabled, etc.) in our Census, for Income Tax purposes. The number you see as my population on my NS page is not my full population as those who can't work are not counted.

OOC-There is also the problem that 4 of your currency is $1. That causes a lot of problems as well.

Zukariaa;11772960']OOC-There is also the problem that 4 of your currency is $1. That causes a lot of problems as well.

So?

Lets say I get 100,000 Soviet Coins, I just divide it in 4, and presto, I have 25,000 USDs.

OOC: O RLY?

When did you notice?

Of course I dont have a defence budget, I use my Law & Order Budget to buy stuff.

So far, I've managed to save over 500 Billion USDs.

OOC: You do know that the defense and law and order budgets are yearly spending given to the sector, not new money created to throw into that sector?

The money rolls over, when you don't spend it, it become next years administration budget or something. You cannot save the budget year after year and have more than you really do.

Another couple of rants... If you use the Law and Order budget for the military, who pays the cops?

If he's being invaded, I think some money might just be re-appropriated to, uh, maybe... pay for his defense? This budget non-existance would, however, cut off any offensive capacity.

I think I'm done.

OOC-That isn't my point. The point is that it's worth is a lot less than average. It would require much more to buy the same things that others can buy rather easily.

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Well, I do that, any money that isnt spent, is saved.

@ Zukkaria

So? Thats why I save money for

Well, I do that, any money that isnt spent, is saved.

@ Zukkaria

So? Thats why I save money for

OOC: Then every year you get poorer and poorer? That's interesting.

Also, I'll be gone for two days after this post, so, I don't expect Wanderjar to post, but you guys do... My ships are fighting Wanderjar and my guys are landing on the shore about a dozen miles away. I'll be back.

Well, I do that, any money that isnt spent, is saved.

@ Zukkaria

So? Thats why I save money for

You only have a $2 trillion GDP, divide that into a fourth and you really only have $500 billion all together. You can't have extra money that doesn't exist.

Zukariaa;11772998']You only have a $2 trillion GDP, divide that into a fourth and you really only have $500 billion all together. You can't have extra money that doesn't exist.

Again, I take my Daily (RL) Law & Order Budget, make any maths I need, then I add it to the total I've been saving for over 1 month.

Thus totalling 500 Billion so far.

@ Pudu

No, not poorer, as I only meant the L&O budget.

You are welcome to leave if you feel this is unfair for you or anyone.

OOC: Then every year you get poorer and poorer? That's interesting.

Also, I'll be gone for two days after this post, so, I don't expect Wanderjar to post, but you guys do... My ships are fighting Wanderjar and my guys are landing on the shore about a dozen miles away. I'll be back.

c ya later Pudu

I refuse to accept the fact that you are able to equip, train, and field a military which can fight on two large fronts, launch a counter invasion, and have walled cities.

This is bullshit

ummm guys we are in the ic thread. If only there was an ooc thread. whatever

ic: maldorian Army units in St. John was cremating the Rustov attack. The maldorian Aircraft used Sidewinders and evasive action to blow the enemy out the the sky.

I refuse to accept the fact that you are able to equip, train, and field a military which can fight on two large fronts, launch a counter invasion, and have walled cities.

This is bullshit

Two large fronts?

Yours is very small I must say.

Anyways, you are, of course, welcome to leave anytime if you disagree with my Budget Management.

ummm guys we are in the ic thread. If only there was an ooc thread. whatever

OOC:
There is an OOC THREAD (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498733). It hasn't been used in a long time as everyone forgot about it.

OOC:
So I take it that my re-initial attack on Blackhelm's forces was ignored?

OOC: Sorry for my long absence, I got caught up between school and baseball, and then my team went across country last week, but I am back now. I did a quick read through and I belive I am caught up.

IC:

PROHT forces would soon meet the full force of the Beiraqi military as they came upon St. John du Caen. HT-106 tanks were soon sent against the nation that created them, supported by thousands and thousands of rockets that were fired out of the M94 and Ababil batteries. BMP-1's were also thrust into the fighting, all supporting the Republican assault on the PROHT center. BOV 30's and ZSU's swept the sky ensuring that enemy air support did not show up, and hundreds, perhaps thousands, of 81mm mortar shells screamed through the sky bound for the unloading enemy.

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OOC: Wha...? You army was this --> <-- close to getting wiped out by me when Griffincrest arrived and saved your ass!

OOC: Wha...? You army was this --> <-- close to getting wiped out by me when Griffincrest arrived and saved your ass!

When was this? You said I should just be removed because my life does not revolve around NS

ooc: OMFG! all you guys are doing is OOC posts!!!1

OOC: Thank you, now I don't have to type...

I use about three percent of my population in my military, and I promise I can out-totalitarian anyone here.

ooc Yes, exactly. Having that kind of military size will not be good for your social or political freedoms, or economy for that matter.

I RP my nation as i feel. My nation doesn't count those who are unable to work (Elderly, Children, Disabled, etc.) in our Census, for Income Tax purposes. The number you see as my population on my NS page is not my full population as those who can't work are not counted.
So that means you have an actual population of 8 to 9 billion?

We have a special name for this kind of thing. We call it "wanking". In case you don't remember, it means "inflating your stats to give you a RP advantage". Using the number referred to as your population on your NS page as your workforce, or your military, or whatever because your census doesn't count everyone else is a good example of this.

Sorry for all the OOC everyone, I'm just a tad irritated by this.
/ooc

When was this? You said I should just be removed because my life does not revolve around NS

No, I was fighting you around St. John, you left, and BC and I agreed to hand him control of your troops while you were away, they almost got wiped, but, Merc Troops saved their ass.

The Undershi Fleet of The Pacifics began its first offensive actions against enemy naval assets almost as soon as it was within missile range - the cruisers and destroyers of the Undershi fleet opened up with a short but savage missile bombardment, firing as the entire fleet moved in to close the range, then firing another short, savage, salvo in support of an attack launched by the Thunderer fighter-bombers of the fleet's carriers.
As this attack is being launched, the Fleet Admiral makes the following short annoucement:
Carrier Group Nietzsche will be avenged! Remember the Battle of Gomez Valley, and strike back against the Enemy! We Shall Prevail!

(That's 300 Thunderers, by the way.)

OOC: This attack is being launched against assorted enemy naval units, most especially whatever is left of TWSP fleet.

Admiral Jane smirked at the sight of the missiles that were fired from the Undershi Fleet.

"And so the battle for TWSP begins. All hands on deck. We have a little business to deal with. Notify the Shazbotdomian Fleet that the Dephirians are moving out. We are to intercept any and all enemy ships with the exception of the Undershi Fleet."

OOC: This attack is being launched against assorted enemy naval units, most especially whatever is left of TWSP fleet.

OOC: I dont have a fleet, the little ships I have were bought after the combat started, and the Aequatian Corps. have strict orders not to send them here until the war ends, in the case we loose, they'll be sent to whenever a goverment in exile is formed.

OOC: Ah... then they're being targeted against your allies fleets - specifically any from Imperial Boman, if there are any of those here... if not, we'll have to settle for Shazbotdomian ships for targets... the Shazbotdomians are on your side, aren't they?

Post your OOC stuff HERE!!!!!! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498733)
Not on this thread, the link above...

And whoever started this thread should make said link clearly visable on the first post so these OOC posts in IC threads stops now.

That means you Shaz... er.. Blackhelm Confederacy...

I didn't start this thread.....Blackhem did

Several large aircraft departed the Dephirian Territorial Island nation known as the Outer Rim. Each were filled with several hundred parasoldiers. These units were fresh recruits right off the line. They were told that they were to go into friendly territory and beat back an invading force. What these men didn't know was that they were the only offense Dephire was sending in.

Over the past few months, Dephire has gone through so many different phases that no one knew what was going on. Vega was a great president, that's no question, it's the fact that for years Dephire has been under an absolute ruler. The transition into a democracy was proving as a bad mistake. Havoc was breaking out into the streets...and nothing could be done.

The Dominance in which Dephire once had was beginning to falter. Even their massive defense cannons were shut-down. The massive fleet was now rotting away in the seas.

All of this was going through the young minds of the men. Each of them averaged roughly sixteen years of age. These were desperate times. As the fall of the Soviet Union, Dephire had fallen into the same trap. Their economy had collapsed due to the unbalanced distribution of the government's budget. Many people were being laid off as the new laws were being put into play.

Now, it has finally come to this. Dephire's last 'Hoorah' so to speak.

Thirty aircraft were soaring over the horizon. Each carried one hundred and eighty soldiers. The fleet had begun departing, this would probably be their last mission for years to come. Now the aircrafts were in the hands of the Gods...

The Hatarian Army soon started marching to engage The enemy army, while The Fleet was heading for the Naval Battle.

Blackhelm was going to be running

The Hatarian Army soon started marching to engage The enemy army, while The Fleet was heading for the Naval Battle.

Blackhelm was going to be running

OOC-What are you even talking about, Hataria? There was no detail in the post. How are your guys just suddenly there? When did you land?

whos still in tWSP?

Zukariaa;11779085']OOC-What are you even talking about, Hataria? There was no detail in the post. How are your guys just suddenly there? When did you land?


OOC: I made the Landing Post a while back, a long way back.............

OOC: I made the Landing Post a while back, a long way back.............

OOC-Where is it? Who are you engaging? When you post 1 line it doesn't clear much up.

Zukariaa;11779964']OOC-Where is it? Who are you engaging? When you post 1 line it doesn't clear much up.

OOC: when I landed, it was behind Blackhelms lines and I am going after him, I have to find the (*&&%#$% Post and show you it

OOC: when I landed, it was behind Blackhelms lines and I am going after him, I have to find the (*&&%#$% Post and show you it

OOC-That? I remember that. You seemed to forget that there is a fleet sitting there. <_<

OOC: when I landed, it was behind Blackhelms lines and I am going after him, I have to find the (*&&%#$% Post and show you it

OOC: I have a fleet "behind Blackhelm's lines" too, and we would not be thrilled to see you...

ooc Yes, exactly. Having that kind of military size will not be good for your social or political freedoms, or economy for that matter.

...

Sorry for all the OOC everyone, I'm just a tad irritated by this.
/ooc

OOC: I don't have social or political freedoms, and my economy is not very powerful, but very competent. Read my factbook. As for the military, three percent is not allot. I have just over thirty million fighting men, and many, many logistics personnel. It works, once you read the factbook, if you still have problems, contact me and they may be addressed.

OOC: I don't have social or political freedoms, and my economy is not very powerful, but very competent. Read my factbook. As for the military, three percent is not allot. I have just over thirty million fighting men, and many, many logistics personnel. It works, once you read the factbook, if you still have problems, contact me and they may be addressed.

ooc
I'm not talking about you, Pudu. You have a sensible nation (it looks a bit like a more authoritarian version of North Korea) for your military size. Shaz, on the other hand, claims to be a democracy with high civil rights while maintaining that kind of military size.

last OOC post. I promise. <.<
/ooc

Oof!
Hurtian War fleet Number 1C
HTS Erie
Admiral Kovaks:
"So, I'm finally in charge of this operation?"
"Yep, Vandergrift is back on the Kursk.."
Lt Major. Vandergrift: "And where did you get that infoermation?"
"Um, uh, I thought you left already, there is a war going on, won't you be missed by your men?"
"I've got other things to worry about, I came back to inform you that Task Force Three has their own orders and atre not to be interfered with by the likes of you."
"You dirty little..."
"There's a war going on, and I'm going lanside, just hope and pray I get killed before I see you ruin this fleet... Otherwise I'll come back from the grave and kill you..."
"Sure, right, back from the grave, you expect me to believe such nonsense?"
"You don't have to, but don't say I didn't warn you"
"Go then... we'll see if you can come back in one piece this time, rather than leaving bits of your men behind."
[Vandergrift leaves]
Kovaks: "Anything new?"
Aide: "Dephirian and Zukarian anti-war protestors spotted coming from the north, a few transmissions are being exchanged between them and our allies, can't make much sense from it but I'm guessing they aren't being polite."
Kovaks: "call general quarters."
[Klaxxons sound, Kovaks picks up the microphone]
"Men, this is Admiral Kovaks speaking, as you may have known, we have officially declared war on the terrorist faction known as the Corprate Alliance, as such, we shall not recognize the ationality or ethnicity of our aggressors, and we shall not condone the actions of collaborators and even less for traitors.
=========
HTS Kursk
Sailor #1
"So what are the orders?"
Sailor #2
"Duh, shell the crap out of the enemy with our guns wile the Hiragis and Terrors deal with any boats trying to break through to the beaches"
S1
"Oh, then I guess we should get out from in front of this massive 16" railgun"
S2
"that would be a good idea"
S1
"Uh, you going to move out of the way then?"
S2
"Why?"
[General quarters, General quarters, all hands man your battle stations, this is not a drill, this is war]
S1
"That's why..."
[Moments later the railguns and heavy mortars of the HTS Kursk and HTS Erie shelled last given locations of Corprate positions (Beiraqi defensive line and Griffencrest Mercenary command post)]

Hurtian Airstrip:
The beachfront forces finally made it to the field when they could hear shells fly overhead, the sight of a large black coincial shell "flying" overhead was sort of unerving to the younger green Army troops, but they quickly became used to the noise and the sight of the shell "floating" overhead (like sputnik but louder, bigger, faster, and closer).
They would stay at the airstip until the shelling eased off a bit in order to give the new arrivals a rest, to prevent troops from getting shelled and to await more men and supplies by air.

"We accepted Dephire's treaty, and we are still getting shelled..." the admiral thought to himself as he looked out at the enemy fleet. "If Dephire won't make them halt the attacks, I will have to"
The ten Chieftain's dispathched earlier to tail the Hurtian fleet were smoewhat shocked when they saw the enemy fleet begin the shelling. After a few moments of seeming motionlessness, all ten ships tore to life, there many railguns aimed and fired* at the enemy fleet. Torpedoes too, slid through the water at the enemy vessels.
*added

Hurtian submarines prepared to engage Griffencrest boats, there were only ten...
As soon as the shelling of shore defenses began, the Hiragi and Sniper class smothered the much smaller fleet with so much fire, that you could scarcely see the enemy through the rain of shells, waterspouts, and explosions.

If one looked doown, the water seemed to boil with missiles popping out of the water, and flying towards the enemy at high speed, then disappear back into the water just as their CIWS began reacting to them, from there the torpedoes would supercavitate the remaining 5 to 10 seconds till impact with the enemy ships. The torpedoes, when viewed from afar, looked oddly reminiscent of a pod of dolphins...

OOC:
Before people start getting carried away.
I'll remind everybody that my fleet is divided in 3 or 4 sections:

Picket line (intermingled with trailing fleets): Tango class submarines (40) and 6 tube CAPTOR mines, armed with F/SC torpedoes. (40 to 80 mines X 6 tubes each = 240 to 480 torpedoes then add [40 submarines with 6 to 10 tubes each and two full reloads = 240 /w/ 240 reloads to 400 /w/ 800 reloads] = 720 tubes /w/ 240 reloads to 880 tubes /w/ 800 reloads)

First line (furthest from shore)
Hiragi Cruisers (20), and Sniper class destroyers (40) (203 mm and 125 mm railguns resp)
Tasked with defending, guns already pointed at Corprate fleet, in battle formation

Second line:
HTS Kursk and HTS Erie Auxillary cruisers and Terror class Monitors (20) (bombarding shore)
And the 4 Firebrand LPHs and a single Richards class. (supplying trops)

These are defended by the first line.
Picket line is to actively harass the attackers.

Third line: Beached on shore
Landing craft, hoverctraft

This post is why I didn't respond as early as I was supposed to:
OOC: I don't think I'm fighting you. I attacked a Wanderjarian fleet roughly twenty miles off the shore of TWSP the night before I intended to land my soldiers.

Next I shall respond to the land based counter attack.

And no, I'm not going to use up all my torpedoes on just 10 boats...

PROHT forces would soon meet the full force of the Beiraqi military as they came upon St. John du Caen. HT-106 tanks were soon sent against the nation that created them, supported by thousands and thousands of rockets that were fired out of the M94 and Ababil batteries. BMP-1's were also thrust into the fighting, all supporting the Republican assault on the PROHT center. BOV 30's and ZSU's swept the sky ensuring that enemy air support did not show up, and hundreds, perhaps thousands, of 81mm mortar shells screamed through the sky bound for the unloading enemy.

K, I'm goin to assume those tanks are still in working order ever since I sold them to you, even after the conflict with Wanderjar (then I sent you more after that) and then the almost complete anhialation of your forces here, only saved by the Griffencrest counter-offensive

After 15 minutes of intense shelling upon Corprate positions near St. John (provided it is less than 250 miles from shore) and other areas to the rear. The Hurtian troops, of which only 750,000 of the 2.2 million had arrived (Approximately 200,000 (10 divisions) from initial wave, 500,000 (25 divisions) landed over the course of two days, plus a few others), still their orders were to advance.

[reminds myself that troops sent listed on Page 23]

Divisions landed:
2 Army Mechanised Divisions
5 Army Mobile Divisions
3 Marine Logistics Divisions
25 of 100 Militia Divisions

Units at front of charge in italics

Landing craft armed with a pair of 125 mm cannons (open single gun mounts of CC-5) and two double CC-35B AAA.

[Additional info:]
Typical arrangements:
Militia Division:
20,000 men
20,000 CM-26 Squad Automatic Rifles
5,000 M-203 Grenade launchers
5,000 RPG-7 Rocket Launchers
5,000 MMP-1 UAVs
500 MC-5 mortars
500 HT-5 trucks
500 Truck drawn 10 ton wagons
2,000 horses

Marine Logistics Division
15,146 men and 5,000 horses
Each division is divided into 5 brigades
Each brigade has 4 Battalions
Per division
15,146 CM-26 Squad Automatic Rifles
3,750 M-203 Grenade launchers
3,750 RPG-7 Rocket Launchers
7,500 MMP-1 UAVs
600 Wagons
300 MC-5
1,000 cavalrymen

Army Mechanized Division
1 Division = 5 Brigades
1Brigade = 5 Battalions
20,000 men
20,000 CM-26 Squad Automatic Rifles
5,000 M-203 Grenade launchers
5,000 RPG-7 Rocket Launchers
10,000 MMP-1 UAVs
100 HT-106
300 HT-101
50 HTC-8
100 CC-5
200 MC-5

Army Mobile Division:
20,000 men each
1 Division = 5 brigades
1 Brigade =5 Battalions
20,000 CM-26 Squad Automatic Rifles
5,000 M-203 Grenade launchers
5,000 RPG-7 Rocket Launchers
10,000 MMP-1 UAVs
750 HT-5 trucks
250 CC-5 cannons
500 MC-5 mortars


How much am I up against?

Pudite Landing Craft, Shore of The World Soviet Party, Amphibious Assault
Stretching across the horizon, for literally miles up and down the otherwise calm shore, there were boats. Some of the craft were massive full-sized landing ships, readying themselves to beach along the shoreline and unload their armored compliment. Others were smaller, containing only a half-dozen vehicles or a platoon or two of soldiers. Smallest of all were the light inflatable and rigid hull boats speeding ahead of the armada. Each of these tiny craft would land a squad or two of Marine Pathfinders, who would go ashore first and, without waiting for their support or supplies, advance onward into this foreign nation. They would return in a few hours, each now with a detailed knowledge of the surroundings with which to direct their respective battalions.

Hovering above the fleet were the aircraft deployed by the Pudite Emden and Shrike class amphibious assault carriers. There were a few dozen of these ships, each sending forward their own helicopter and STOVL squadrons. All in all, there were now roughly two-hundred light anti-submarine warfare helicopters watching over the attack, while three times that number of the marine gunships were actively advancing on the shoreline. No trouble here was expected, they were landing behind friendly lines, after all, but one had to be ready for anything.

In this first wave of transports and 'choppers there were roughly three-hundred thousand naval marines, and each wave after that would deliver a similar quantity. For the next twenty-four hours this beach would see a near-constant stream of Pudite amphibious craft, bringing more and more soldiers, vehicles and supplies ashore. After that the first period the two contained and now fully stocked Pudite Marine Legions would separate and move into complete operation across the war-ravaged nation.

For another three days after that supplies would continue to be unloaded and more and more soldiers would be deployed. A force of two-hundred thousand strong would be left at the landing site to hold the position until reinforcements from the Dominion could arrive. And they would. Even now, as the first assault was underway, preparations for a second were being made. A second force, this one of nearly one-hundred regular Strelkovy infantry divisions, was being drawn up. It was set to arrive in a week and a half's time. Until then, the marine divisions would have to hold their own.

Admiral Panslovak watched on his telescreen in the command-observation room the amphibious operations of his command. It gladdened him to know now that after these many years, he would finally be able to give the Emperor's retribution to these enemies of the Dominion. Even as he observed this comparatively serene naval operation, his own ship was battered by a near constant stream of enemy attack. Although little damage had been done, this battle was beginning to aggravate the experienced Admiral. He stood up just as his ships own massive surface battery unloaded its weapons again, causing him to lose his balance slightly, and walked back over to the elevator which would return him to his command and control room above. It was time to finish this fight, he thought to himself...

Pudite Landing Craft, Shore of The World Soviet Party, Amphibious Assault
Stretching across the horizon, for literally miles up and down the otherwise calm shore, there were boats. Some of the craft were massive full-sized landing ships, readying themselves to beach along the shoreline and unload their armored compliment. Others were smaller, containing only a half-dozen vehicles or a platoon or two of soldiers. Smallest of all were the light inflatable and rigid hull boats speeding ahead of the armada. Each of these tiny craft would land a squad or two of Marine Pathfinders, who would go ashore first and, without waiting for their support or supplies, advance onward into this foreign nation. They would return in a few hours, each now with a detailed knowledge of the surroundings with which to direct their respective battalions.

Hovering above the fleet were the aircraft deployed by the Pudite Emden and Shrike class amphibious assault carriers. There were a few dozen of these ships, each sending forward their own helicopter and STOVL squadrons. All in all, there were now roughly two-hundred light anti-submarine warfare helicopters watching over the attack, while three times that number of the marine gunships were actively advancing on the shoreline. No trouble here was expected, they were landing behind friendly lines, after all, but one had to be ready for anything.

In this first wave of transports and 'choppers there were roughly three-hundred thousand naval marines, and each wave after that would deliver a similar quantity. For the next twenty-four hours this beach would see a near-constant stream of Pudite amphibious craft, bringing more and more soldiers, vehicles and supplies ashore. After that the first period the two contained and now fully stocked Pudite Marine Legions would separate and move into complete operation across the war-ravaged nation.

For another three days after that supplies would continue to be unloaded and more and more soldiers would be deployed. A force of two-hundred thousand strong would be left at the landing site to hold the position until reinforcements from the Dominion could arrive. And they would. Even now, as the first assault was underway, preparations for a second were being made. A second force, this one of nearly one-hundred regular Strelkovy infantry divisions, was being drawn up. It was set to arrive in a week and a half's time. Until then, the marine divisions would have to hold their own.

Admiral Panslovak watched on his telescreen in the command-observation room the amphibious operations of his command. It gladdened him to know now that after these many years, he would finally be able to give the Emperor's retribution to these enemies of the Dominion. Even as he observed this comparatively serene naval operation, his own ship was battered by a near constant stream of enemy attack. Although little damage had been done, this battle was beginning to aggravate the experienced Admiral. He stood up just as his ships own massive surface battery unloaded its weapons again, causing him to lose his balance slightly, and walked back over to the elevator which would return him to his command and control room above. It was time to finish this fight, he thought to himself...


OOC: where in TWSP are you?

OOC: where in TWSP are you?

OOC: I really don't know, but I've been there awhile. My fleet arrived many pages ago. To remedy this problem, THE SOVETS SHOULD GIVE US A MAP. Without a map all I can say is "A beach behind friendly lines".

ooc:wheres TWSP? Im attacking his army with my planes. When is he coming

OOC: I really don't know, but I've been there awhile. My fleet arrived many pages ago. To remedy this problem, THE SOVETS SHOULD GIVE US A MAP. Without a map all I can say is "A beach behind friendly lines".

OOC: Um, here is his map, though without anything showing info about the war: Map (http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7318/twspmap1ju4.png)

ooc:wheres TWSP? Im attacking his army with my planes. When is he coming

OOC: Where? care to give me a link?

ooc:remember when you were moving your army to Blainesville, my aircraft were following shooitng your Benemoth's, remember?

ooc:remember when you were moving your army to Blainesville, my aircraft were following shooitng your Benemoth's, remember?

No, specially cause I have 70,000 troops in Blainesville, which, coincidentally, is in the other end of my country.

OOC: Um, here is his map, though without anything showing info about the war: Map (http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7318/twspmap1ju4.png)

OOC: Perfect, now all I need to know is where Blackhelm is...

OOC: Um, here is his map, though without anything showing info about the war: Map (http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7318/twspmap1ju4.png)

thanks

thanks

No problem (it's in TWSP's sig)

OOC:
Is there going to be response or even an acknowledgement of my aircraft being seen arriving? The post was two-three pages back..

The Undershi Fleet of The Pacifics is engaging enemy naval units, all the while fighting its way in towards TWSP, with its apparent intention being to force a landing on coast held by the anti-CA forces. This attack is an all-out effort - defeat is not an option...

The Undershi Fleet of The Pacifics is engaging enemy naval units, all the while fighting its way in towards TWSP, with its apparent intention being to force a landing on coast held by the anti-CA forces. This attack is an all-out effort - defeat is not an option...

Hatarian Spy Satellites spotted The enemy Fleet. The Pictures were sent to Nadia's HQ at TWSP (aka: The Star Dragon) "So, Undershi is sending a Fleet to Battle........poor Idiot, he is going to be killed." Nadia said. The enemy was out numbered and out gunned with The Hatarian Fleet.


OOC To Undershi: How many Ships are in your Fleet?

EDIT: Oh and I forgot one thing about The Sango, it has been Refited with Rail Guns.........have a nice day :)

OOC: Where are the bloody front lines! (http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7318/twspmap1ju4.png)

Hatarian Spy Satellites spotted The enemy Fleet. The Pictures were sent to Nadia's HQ at TWSP (aka: The Star Dragon) "So, Undershi is sending a Fleet to Battle........poor Idiot, he is going to be killed." Nadia said. The enemy was out numbered and out gunned with The Hatarian Fleet.


OOC To Undershi: How many Ships are in your Fleet?

EDIT: Oh and I forgot one thing about The Sango, it has been Refited with Rail Guns.........have a nice day :)

OOC: Also, Hataria; If Undershi is sailing by me, which he probably is, as I am somewhere on this tiny shoreline, then you'll have to, as well as a few more CA-allied fleets. Undershi will not be alone in this naval battle occurs anywhere near TWSP...

Also again, many people use rail guns of some sort... I myself have a few medium caliber tactical guns on my capital ships. The existence of rail runs themselves is not intimidating, what is their caliber?

How big is your fleet?

OOC: Where are the bloody front lines! (http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7318/twspmap1ju4.png)

We are currently approaching both St. John and Gustavich, our goal is to recapture them.

So I'm still unmentioned??

So I'm still unmentioned??

OOC: Who are you talking to? Just asking.

The Hatarians were now sending Troops to the most importent Front in what was called the Corperate Wars or The Ryu no Shogun War (Grand General of the Dragon Wars) a Fleet was now going out to sea and for TWSP.

Hataria Exporation Army and Fleet

Fleet

4 Black Lady Class Air Craft Carriers (with 56 RAGI-20 Air to Air Combat Fighters and 38 RAGI-17 Fighter Bombers on each Ship)
45 Republic Class Destroyers
34 Fisherman Class Submarine Hunter Destroyers
20 Duck Hunter Class Anti-Air Frigates
36 Asakura Class Cruisers
45 Gun-Ho Class Gunboats
39 Pacifica Class Destroyers
40 Nautuis Class Attack Submarines
5 Oni Helicopter Carrers (with 56 Cobrahawk Attack helicopters, 20 BT-19 Night Attack Helicopters and 49 FH-78 Transport helicopters on each Ship)
56 Market Class Fleet tenders
2,180 Titan Class Troop Ships

Army

2,080,700 Hatarian Imperial Stromtroopers
34,000 NinjaCommandos (Hatarian Special Forces)
549 CT-24 Main Battle tanks
345 M41 Walker Bulldog Light Tanks
234 Avenger Wepons Sytems (http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/ada/Avenger.html)
345 BM-21 122mm Multiple Rocket Launchers
231 M109 155mm Self-Propelled Medium Howitzers
345 Jeeps

This Force would help TWSP against the enemy Invaders


OOC Here it is, with Army also

We are currently approaching both St. John and Gustavich, our goal is to recapture them.

I will sent my Army to help you My Army will Strike St, John first

OOC: Who are you talking to? Just asking.


Actually, it was aimed at everyone. I have like, trying to remember, thirty aircraft heading into your land for the final military operation of Dephire?

Actually, it was aimed at everyone. I have like, trying to remember, thirty aircraft heading into your land for the final military operation of Dephire?

So? Finish the operation, have the planes land of TWSP and your troops engage the enemy!

So? Finish the operation, have the planes land of TWSP and your troops engage the enemy!

Not that simple. They were supposed to be at least picked up by someone...or I would have alot of people paradropping in the middle of nowhere as if nothing is wrong. I was aiming for a dramatic scene like in WWII...

We are currently approaching both St. John and Gustavich, our goal is to recapture them.

OOC: Based on that information (and that the only realistic way to invade you by sea is confined to a relatively small area) alone, I have sort of fabricated a map (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1889/untitled01iy7.png), with the solid red areas being occupied by CA forces and the front lines being the edges. Does that look good?

OOC: Based on that information (and that the only realistic way to invade you by sea is confined to a relatively small area) alone, I have sort of fabricated a map (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1889/untitled01iy7.png), with the solid red areas being occupied by CA forces and the front lines being the edges. Does that look good?

Yes, that map looks great.

I wonder how will the Naval Battle turn out...

Your god has returned.

OOC: Based on that information (and that the only realistic way to invade you by sea is confined to a relatively small area) alone, I have sort of fabricated a map (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1889/untitled01iy7.png), with the solid red areas being occupied by CA forces and the front lines being the edges. Does that look good?

I believe Blainesville should have a little enclave near Switzerland. Now, TWSP, how did you respond to my push?

the Hatarian Grand Army was soon heading for The Town of St. John to help drive The CA Forces out of TWSP. The Final battles of The war would be fought there soon and soon, Hataria and TWSP will win.

The Hatarians knew that Dephire Planes were around and were not going to shot them down, But thet were sending planes to drop Leaflets on St John warning all Civilians to leave at once!

SECRET IC:
Special Communique:
From: President William MacKensie, Democratic Republic of Trivalvia
To: President Alexander, The World Soviet Party

Mr. President,

With the recent resurgence of the feared Kraven Corporation, the Trivalvian government feels that this war with Griffincrest may only be prelude to a larger conflict. It is therefore the official position of the Trivalvian government that this war must end soon, and with a Griffincrest defeat.

Earlier, we had offered some of our armed forces to aid you in repelling the Griffincrest invasion. I would like to remind you that this offer is still open, and with the recent expansion of our military, we are in a better position to provide military aid now than we were previously.

In addition, the Trivalvian government is prepared to offer additional assistance to the World Soviet Party with the following package:

1. The Trivalvian government grants a 20 year lease of one of our Northeast Islands to serve as a TWSP naval base. Any ships the TWSP have purchased can be shipped there. Trivalvian naval and air assets will be deployed to provide protection for the base.

2. Our naval shipyards at New Moncton can provide 8 Asher class frigates and 2 Guardian class cruisers to TWSP on a 4 year lease with option to purchase. We are also prepared to continue production of these ships to meet TWSP demands as well as to provide new ship classes for the duration of the conflict. If TWSP can supply crews, we'll supply the ships.

3. Trivalvian Airborne forces are prepared to deploy behind Griffincrest lines to engage in a campaign of sabotage of Griffincrest equipment and supply lines / bases.

4. Should TWSP accept direct military aid from Trivalvia, the 3rd, 4th, and 5th Mechanized Brigade Groups stand ready to be deployed at once. 6th, 7th, and 8th Brigade Groups can be readied and deployed if needed. We are also prepared to deploy the Atlantic Fleet to assist in securing naval waters.

We would appreciate a response.

President William MacKensie

OOC: A few notes for reference.
1. Specifications for the Asher class Frigate and Guardian class Cruiser can be found here:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3008
http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3020

2. My brigade groups are modelled on Canadian and British Commonwealth standards. So one Brigade group equals:
3 Infantry Battalions (600+ men per battalion, with infantry-carried AT and AA rockets, and three troops (5 vehicles per troop) of Typhoon ADVs)
1 Armoured Regiment (60 Black Eagle Tanks, with 5 Barracuda Tank Destroyers)
1 Artillery Regiment (3 Artillery batteries of 8 units each - 24 Artillery units; mixed towed/self propelled at the regiment level)
1 Combat Engineering Regiment (an assortment of CEVs, ARRVs and bridging vehicles).

3. I'm assuming that both Trivalvia and TWSP are on the same continent, but we'll need to determine how far apart we are. We could share a border on the west, in which case Trivalvian forces could strike beach positions and launch airstrikes / engage CA planes while supported straight from our own airbases. If we're seperated by a few nations, then Trivalvian air and land forces will have to ferry to one of your more southern airbases and be supported from there. Your call either way.

4. This is not an all or nothing deal - if you don't want me in the war directly, the offer for an outside naval base and supply of ships is still open.

Your god has returned.



I believe Blainesville should have a little enclave near Switzerland. Now, TWSP, how did you respond to my push?

With a devastating rain of lead from MGs, Small Arms, Tanks, Stingers, Lance AT Missiles, Napalm, Artillery, Everything.

Your god has returned.



I believe Blainesville should have a little enclave near Switzerland. Now, TWSP, how did you respond to my push?

How about this (http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7890/untitled01ao8.png)?

OOC: Based on that information (and that the only realistic way to invade you by sea is confined to a relatively small area) alone, I have sort of fabricated a map (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1889/untitled01iy7.png), with the solid red areas being occupied by CA forces and the front lines being the edges. Does that look good?

OOC: I am attacking St. John from the West

Several Dephirian planes roared high in the sky. Within each held a hundred or so young men. It was time to depart, and it was time for their lives to come to an end. Everyone, except for the pilots, began hopping out into the air. Each were armed with a special automatic rifle, a pistol, and several cartridges. They also had special combat knives, and fourty throwing daggers. As they fell towards the World Soviet Party's soil, they began thinking of what they were doing and who they were fighting for. Twenty seconds into their drop, they deployed their parachutes...

OOC: I am attacking St. John from the West

Hmm . . . but for that to work, they would have had to have invaded from the east, a logistical improbability, especially while the western coast was available . . . Did you merely push their forces back to the point where you were able to attack St. John from that direction?

1. The Trivalvian government grants a 20 year lease of one of our Northeast Islands to serve as a TWSP naval base. Any ships the TWSP have purchased can be shipped there. Trivalvian naval and air assets will be deployed to provide protection for the base.

2. Our naval shipyards at New Moncton can provide 8 Asher class frigates and 2 Guardian class cruisers to TWSP on a 4 year lease with option to purchase. We are also prepared to continue production of these ships to meet TWSP demands as well as to provide new ship classes for the duration of the conflict. If TWSP can supply crews, we'll supply the ships.

3. Trivalvian Airborne forces are prepared to deploy behind Griffincrest lines to engage in a campaign of sabotage of Griffincrest equipment and supply lines / bases.

4. Should TWSP accept direct military aid from Trivalvia, the 3rd, 4th, and 5th Mechanized Brigade Groups stand ready to be deployed at once. 6th, 7th, and 8th Brigade Groups can be readied and deployed if needed. We are also prepared to deploy the Atlantic Fleet to assist in securing naval waters.

We would appreciate a response.

President William MacKensie

OOC: A few notes for reference.
1. Specifications for the Asher class Frigate and Guardian class Cruiser can be found here:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3008
http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3020

2. My brigade groups are modelled on Canadian and British Commonwealth standards. So one Brigade group equals:
3 Infantry Battalions (600+ men per battalion, with infantry-carried AT and AA rockets, and three troops (5 vehicles per troop) of Typhoon ADVs)
1 Armoured Regiment (60 Black Eagle Tanks, with 5 Barracuda Tank Destroyers)
1 Artillery Regiment (3 Artillery batteries of 8 units each - 24 Artillery units; mixed towed/self propelled at the regiment level)
1 Combat Engineering Regiment (an assortment of CEVs, ARRVs and bridging vehicles).

3. I'm assuming that both Trivalvia and TWSP are on the same continent, but we'll need to determine how far apart we are. We could share a border on the west, in which case Trivalvian forces could strike beach positions and launch airstrikes / engage CA planes while supported straight from our own airbases. If we're seperated by a few nations, then Trivalvian air and land forces will have to ferry to one of your more southern airbases and be supported from there. Your call either way.

4. This is not an all or nothing deal - if you don't want me in the war directly, the offer for an outside naval base and supply of ships is still open.

OOC: If you are at my west, wouldnt that make you RL France? We can just tweak the map though.

SIC:
Secret Diplomatic Communique
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/the_world_soviet_party.jpg
To: President Mackenzie
From: President Alexander

I'll answer your points in the order given, if thats not too much trouble.

1. If it doesnt bother you much, we'd be gald to accept this offer, we are now informing our ships (not fully crewed though, we'll start sending them via plane) to go there. If you have problems housing all them, tell us the limit please, and we'll send the most critical only.
Here's a quick list of them:
Navy Ships
Ægir class Small frigate (http://z9.invisionfree.com/GASN/index.php?showtopic=108) x 3
-T.P.S. Voyager
-T.P.S. Dauntless
-T.P.S. Explorer
Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8708897&postcount=112) x 1
-T.P.S. Warrior
Indomitable Class Trimaran-Hull Battleship (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8739969&postcount=14) x 4
-T.P.S. Forrest
-T.P.S. Caesar
-T.P.S. Zeus
-T.P.S. Spartacus
Erschoff Class Guided-Missile Destroyer (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8739992&postcount=16) x 4
-T.P.S. Victory
-T.P.S. Red
-T.P.S. Jorge
-T.P.S. Bergstein
Blowpipe Class Attack Submarine (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8740037&postcount=18) x 3
-T.P.S. Neptune
-T.P.S. Abyss
-T.P.S. Dark
Champion Class Fleet Carrier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8739951&postcount=13) x 1
-T.P.S. Thunder
Magna Casa Class Ballistic-Missile Submarine (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8740037&postcount=18) x 2
-T.P.S. Bringer
-T.P.S. Alexgrad
Meyers Class Guided-Missile Frigate (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8740007&postcount=17) x 4
-T.P.S. Oracle
-T.P.S. Caldwell
-T.P.S. Salathiel
-T.P.S. Luluville
Advance Class Guided-Missile Cruiser (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8739975&postcount=15) x 6
-T.P.S. J0N
-T.P.S. Beaver
-T.P.S. SMID
-T.P.S. Heuston
-T.P.S. Gustavich
-T.P.S. Napalm

2. We thank your kind offer, but we dont need any new ships as of now, we, however, would be more than glad to help them get into the war, if you still wish to send them under your command.

3. Any help you can give us would be appreaciated, as we already feel we are in debt with your nation.

4. I leave this decision to you, I'd not like to force you or your people in a war you dont want to be part of.

Hmm . . . but for that to work, they would have had to have invaded from the east, a logistical improbability, especially while the western coast was available . . . Did you merely push their forces back to the point where you were able to attack St. John from that direction?

I landed behind their lines mainly. I am trying to help TWSP by Trapping the enemy with me at one side and the allies on the other. In short, Pincer Move :cool:

The first group of 200,000 soldiers reached the frontline, reinforcing the Griffincrest men and the 40,000 paratroopers that were already there. At about halfway from the coast was another 200,000 push, and behind that was the third and final landing of 200,000 for this attack area, which would be used to reinforce the area in case of a counter-invasion. Artillery was unlatched and readied for bombardment, the tanks began to roll over the hill to reinforce, and jeeps rolled around, many were handing out supplies. The escort planes that had flown with the movements flew over TWSP and it's allies lines, bombing them with all they had.

The landing craft were returned once again. Soon, they would be launched again towards the west coast of St. John to help their, with another two batches.

The fleet, made up of 150 ships and 30 submarines, was with the Griffincrest and Pudite fleets, and ready to help the Undershi fleet if needed.

I landed behind their lines mainly. I am trying to help TWSP by Trapping the enemy with me at one side and the allies on the other. In short, Pincer Move :cool:

I see. So you would technically be in "CA held" territory, but moving to flank the city?

I landed behind their lines mainly. I am trying to help TWSP by Trapping the enemy with me at one side and the allies on the other. In short, Pincer Move :cool:

OOC-Do you not understand? There are several CA-allied fleets in that area.

Concerning housing capacity for ships. For the new naval base we may be able to accept one third of those ships, however we are also willing to extend an invitation for those ships the new base cannot support to berth at the Trivalviapolis and New Moncton NFBs. Construction of the base is underway now and we should be able to start accepting ships there in one NS month (OOC: I'm going to go by Aequatio's definition of 1 NS month = 1 RL day when it comes to production of bases, ships, etc). Your ships can berth at Trivalvian bases immediately.

Orders have been cut for a covert mission for our airborne troops. We'll be sending a company only for this mission as well as some spies. They should be ready to land over the next few days.

A vote will be held by the Trivalvian legislature within a NS week on the subject of whether we will commit troops and ships openly.

GSF casualties were high, but the mercenary commanders continued screaming of the money and fame the men would recieve if they seized the day. AV-18's were being struck from the sky, but in their place came a full air divion of Gnats, strafing Soviet lines and loosing several hundred laser guided 500lb bombs. With Zukariaan support, as well as being hit on both flanks, Soviet survival at this point was a miracle.

More than 150,000 men had been killed already, but the Soviet were nowhere near surrender, the Main Force, urged by the Commissars, counter-charged at the enemy, over 30,000 men rised from their trenches and bunkers and started charging at the opposing charge, their weapons firing all the time, heavy artillery filled the skies with shells, softening the Mercs for the advance, hundreds of Leopard IIs, Black Eagles (which I produce myself, check storefront) and Benemoth IIIs rolled towards the enemy lines, guns blazing.

I see. So you would technically be in "CA held" territory, but moving to flank the city?

I am laying Seige to it

I am laying Seige to it

That goes without saying; I was saying that you were moving around to advance upon it from an unexpected direction that was technically well within "CA controlled" territory.

Maldorian Bombers were sent off from St. John over the defeated Rustovian Army towards where Griffencrest and TWSP are fighting.
"Alright, this is bomber 135 moving into attack position. Awaiting further orders."

Maldorian Bombers were sent off from St. John over the defeated Rustovian Army towards where Griffencrest and TWSP are fighting.
"Alright, this is bomber 135 moving into attack position. Awaiting further orders."

A number of F-22s, F-18s and F-45s moved in for the kill, targeting the bombers, they unleashed a barrage of over 23 AMRAAMs at the enemy, this, they hoped, would stop them, if not, they had more missiles.

OOC- FOR THE LAST TIME, HATARIA. THERE ARE FLEETS IN THE WAY. YOU CANNOT HAVE LANDED THERE.

About half of the artillery was ready to fire at this point, at it did. As the enemies advanced across "no-man's-land", they would be pounded by nearly 75 C12/nitroclycerin shells, which were based off of Kraven artillery. The guns used the revolver method to rapidly fire off 4 shells within a minute. Meanwhile, the Zukariaan troops began setting up MG nests and firing down. Tanks hit whatever moved, and several bombers broke off from the main group and began hitting TWSP advancements.

Nightfall:

The two C-130 Hercules planes flew with lights and radios off, on a vector that would take them to Gustavich if they were to follow it far enough. A flight of F-39 Copperheads provided escort.

On board the lead C-130, Major Sam Beckett was addressing the troops.

"Okay folks, we are now officially in Soviet territory, temporarily occupied by the Griffincrest corp-lovers. We'll be dropping shortly so I'll make this brief.

"Griffincrest and its allies have a chokehold on the cities of Gustavich and St. John du Cain. Soviet and allied forces are trying to retake them but they're having a tough time of it. They'll need a miracle to break through and we are that miracle." Grins appeared on the troops faces, and a few elbowed their companions.

"Your orders are to go to ground once you've landed, search out any Griffincrest supply lines or bases and destroy them. Blow up bridges, hole fuel trucks, toss grenades into munitions caches... whatever it takes, but you are now the spanner wrench we're throwing into the Griffincrest war machine. We're not going to hand out medals for big body counts - target supplies first, troops and tanks after.

"These men -" Beckett pointed to the dozen people in Soviet uniforms behind him - "will be your eyes and ears. They will infiltrate occupied towns and villages, and keep tabs on Griffincrest troop movements. Your section commanders have all been briefed on ways to keep in touch with them. They will also sniff out any resistance movements forming and act as facilitators between you and said resistance."

Now the hard part. Beckett locked eyes with each of his men. "I expect all of you to fulfil your missions and get out alive. However... if you are cornered or about to be captured... I expect you to fight to the last man. Last man, last bullet. Don't let it come to that."

The speaker clicked on. "Major, this is the pilot. We've got a green light for a drop - no enemy planes nearby."

Beckett walked over to the cargo door. "1st Airborne... get ready to drop!"

***

No human saw the sillouettes of parachutes descend to the forests below. If any animals bore witness, they were not speaking.

[OOC: the soviet uniforms are a disguise for my spies - they'll switch to civilian clothing once they go down. The uniforms are for if some of them are captured upon landing. Be aware that my troops have had national emblems removed from their uniforms as this is a covert mission - they may grab Griffincrest uniforms as their mission progresses. :mp5: ]

[edit and OOC 2: for those interested, actual landing is occuring just past the border - the planes are not suicidal enough to tangle with Griffincrest air assets at Gustavich]

ooc:Trivilia check tgs. NOW

Checked and responded to. BTW, I don't respond well to threats.

ooc:ummmm youre in the middle of CA controlled area. you dont think we wont see you?

Taking this right to the thread from the TGs, are you? Check the OOC thread, I'll be posting my explanation there.

Everyone else; sorry for this spot of OOC bickering.

SECRET IC:
Special Communique:
From: President William MacKensie, Democratic Republic of Trivalvia
To: President Alexander, The World Soviet Party

Mr. President,

With the recent resurgence of the feared Kraven Corporation, the Trivalvian government feels that this war with Griffincrest may only be prelude to a larger conflict. It is therefore the official position of the Trivalvian government that this war must end soon, and with a Griffincrest defeat.

Earlier, we had offered some of our armed forces to aid you in repelling the Griffincrest invasion. I would like to remind you that this offer is still open, and with the recent expansion of our military, we are in a better position to provide military aid now than we were previously.

In addition, the Trivalvian government is prepared to offer additional assistance to the World Soviet Party with the following package:

1. The Trivalvian government grants a 20 year lease of one of our Northeast Islands to serve as a TWSP naval base. Any ships the TWSP have purchased can be shipped there. Trivalvian naval and air assets will be deployed to provide protection for the base.

2. Our naval shipyards at New Moncton can provide 8 Asher class frigates and 2 Guardian class cruisers to TWSP on a 4 year lease with option to purchase. We are also prepared to continue production of these ships to meet TWSP demands as well as to provide new ship classes for the duration of the conflict. If TWSP can supply crews, we'll supply the ships.

3. Trivalvian Airborne forces are prepared to deploy behind Griffincrest lines to engage in a campaign of sabotage of Griffincrest equipment and supply lines / bases.

4. Should TWSP accept direct military aid from Trivalvia, the 3rd, 4th, and 5th Mechanized Brigade Groups stand ready to be deployed at once. 6th, 7th, and 8th Brigade Groups can be readied and deployed if needed. We are also prepared to deploy the Atlantic Fleet to assist in securing naval waters.

We would appreciate a response.

President William MacKensie

OOC: A few notes for reference.
1. Specifications for the Asher class Frigate and Guardian class Cruiser can be found here:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3008
http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3020

2. My brigade groups are modelled on Canadian and British Commonwealth standards. So one Brigade group equals:
3 Infantry Battalions (600+ men per battalion, with infantry-carried AT and AA rockets, and three troops (5 vehicles per troop) of Typhoon ADVs)
1 Armoured Regiment (60 Black Eagle Tanks, with 5 Barracuda Tank Destroyers)
1 Artillery Regiment (3 Artillery batteries of 8 units each - 24 Artillery units; mixed towed/self propelled at the regiment level)
1 Combat Engineering Regiment (an assortment of CEVs, ARRVs and bridging vehicles).

3. I'm assuming that both Trivalvia and TWSP are on the same continent, but we'll need to determine how far apart we are. We could share a border on the west, in which case Trivalvian forces could strike beach positions and launch airstrikes / engage CA planes while supported straight from our own airbases. If we're seperated by a few nations, then Trivalvian air and land forces will have to ferry to one of your more southern airbases and be supported from there. Your call either way.

4. This is not an all or nothing deal - if you don't want me in the war directly, the offer for an outside naval base and supply of ships is still open.

Just so you know, as of right now, your population is 173 million, which, on a 3% basis, means the total employment of your military is 5,190,000 men (including everyone in every branch of the military and quite likely logistical support). Your current government budget is 417,067,905,003.75 tridollars, which works out to $102,769,116,379.70 USD. Assuming you go with the NSTracker estimate of 13% of nonwasted government funds going into your military, that's $12,959,185,575.48 USD for your entire military.

By the way, for the map, do you want to be included to the west of TWSP? You would probably be either Belgium, the Netherlands, or Luxembourg.

The new rush of thirty thousand men was nothing compared to the Griffincrest push. It was almost 11 to 1 here. Soviet men were going to be slaughtered as rocket after rocket, shell after shell smashed into their lines. Gas continued to rise from the chaos, enveloping hundreds of Soviet forces. Lewisite was also beginnig to be thrown into the fight, not for its ability to kill by inhalation, but rather for its ability to maim be contact.

AV-18's and the remaining G7's were now specifically ordered to target Behemoth III's, while Griffincrests own Leopard II's and Behemoth II's were sent to strike the others. Mercury APC's continued firing their torrential spray unto the enemy. Mortar fire poured down throw the now darkening sky, sending bits and pieces of men through the air. The flanks were tightening, and the end was growing nearer.

(Bear in mind, you cannot equip and train all of the men you claim to have in your military. You will likely have the one man gun, one man ammo, on man knife deal going. I added on the extra man because of severe lack of funding.)

OOC: Errikland - one thing I've noticed about NStracker is that it doesn't do proper conversions between national currencies and USD. If you like, I can move the nation back to a region where NSeconomy will function - you'll notice that NSeconomy (which uses USD for its figures) gives the same figures with maybe a dollar's difference here and there.

Yeah, I don't know why that is either.

As for the map, Trivalvia probably would occupy the space where Luxembourg is, and keep going further west. Check the map in my factbook (see sig) to see how far west it goes.

EDIT: BC... if you will be so kind as to examine the Aequatio and Soviet storefronts for the past month, you'll know I've been purchasing and stockpiling equipment for a while now. Funds may evaporate after the end of the fiscal year... guns don't.

Okay, NOW that's the last ooc post from me in this thread. But for the record, I am starting to get a touched T'd off at the assumptions of incompetance...

Anyone ever going to recognise my forces?

Anyone ever going to recognise my forces?

I'm completely ignoring your nation as a whole, I made a post of it awhile ago

EDIT: BC... if you will be so kind as to examine the Aequatio and Soviet storefronts for the past month, you'll know I've been purchasing and stockpiling equipment for a while now. Funds may evaporate after the end of the fiscal year... guns don't.

Okay, NOW that's the last ooc post from me in this thread. But for the record, I am starting to get a touched T'd off at the assumptions of incompetance...


That thing in parenthesis was to TWSP not you.

I'm completely ignoring your nation as a whole, I made a post of it awhile ago




That thing in parenthesis was to TWSP not you.

Wait, why is that? Hmm?

BC: Okay, sorry about that... Maldorians got my dander up, is all.

Anyone ever going to recognise my forces?

Where exactly are they dropping?

Where exactly are they dropping?

Hataria suggested the outskirts...

Hataria suggested the outskirts...

Outskirts of?

BC: Okay, sorry about that... Maldorians got my dander up, is all.

Seriously, just shut up.

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Okay, NOW that's the last ooc post from me in this thread. But for the record, I am starting to get a touched T'd off at the assumptions of incompetance...[/QUOTE]

lol, yea right

BC: Okay, sorry about that... Maldorians got my dander up, is all.

Outskirts of?

The City of St. John

Outskirts of?

He just stated the outskirts. Maybe you should say where they are, because I don't care. Also, Blackhelm. What the hell provoked you into ignoring me? Is it because you can't get over the fact that I recalled my peace proposal? Grow up man. No wonder why I don't want to join the CA.

The City of St. John

Oh...righto.

heh.

He just stated the outskirts. Maybe you should say where they are, because I don't care. Also, Blackhelm. What the hell provoked you into ignoring me? Is it because you can't get over the fact that I recalled my peace proposal? Grow up man. No wonder why I don't want to join the CA.

I posted an entire thread about it. I'm not going into it again. Basically it is because you bother me.

OOC:
What is this thread exactly? I would like to read it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501846
Shut up

Due to massive OOC comments, disagreements over RP'in techniques, and general fights, you can all consider this RP done for.

And Im keeping all my territory.

Pudite Infantry Forces, Occupied Soviet Party Territory, Advancing to the Front
Since the landing the night before, the amphibious fleet had unloaded well over a million soldiers. Now, these men were doing very little here on their new beach, and so now that they were finally entirely deployed and organized, they could begin some actually effective maneuverings.

The current operational forces were set now at exactly one-million soldiers, while the remainder would stay to hold the beach. These one-million men were organized into two separate five-hundred thousand man Legions. Each formation would now operate as independent entities.

The first of these formations, commanded by a General by the name of Kliuchnikov, was made up of fifteen marine infantry divisions, as well as ten marine mechanized divisions, and would move immediately for the battle zones surrounding the city of St. John du Caen. There they would establish a small headquarters and construct for themselves their own light fortifications. There they would remain until such a time as they are required elsewhere. Supporting them would be the entirety of the 3rd Air Force Fighter Group, consisting of two-hundred Pudite fighter aircraft, commanded by an air force major, a man by the name of Matfei. Both Matfei and Kliuchnikov would sit in council together in their new headquarters, a centralized command for the unified force.

The second of these formations would move for the occupied city of Gustavich. This force was of a slightly heavier construction, made up of fifteen marine armored divisions, and ten marine mechanized divisions. This would be the real offensive arm of the Dominion in the Soviet Party, and would stop only in Gustavich for a short re-supply and to allow their thick supply lines to remain calibrated and coordinated. This formation would be commanded by an experienced Dominion commander, Field Marshal Vladislav, who led the Pudite annexation of southern Chitzeland only months before. He was experienced in mobile tank warfare, and was supremely able to make use of his limited forces, made up for by his won brilliance and the near-definite superior quality of Pudite armor. Supporting Vladislav would be the air force major Setseslav, and his two-hundred fighters.

These forces would soon be supplemented by the hundreds more real Pudite army divisions to supplant these naval units. Everything was falling into place, and in only a few weeks time millions more Pudite servants would pour ashore.

This would be a short war, the Emperor would see to that...

Due to massive OOC comments, disagreements over RP'in techniques, and general fights, you can all consider this RP done for.

And Im keeping all my territory.

:eek:

What teh hell, man! This was really interesting, and promising to get more interesting. Admittedly, the OOC comments, such as this one, really should have been limited more to the OOC thread, but don't give up on the RP just like that!

he's just mad that he doesnt have Aequatio and Shazbotdom to help him

:eek:

What teh hell, man! This was really interesting, and promising to get more interesting. Admittedly, the OOC comments, such as this one, really should have been limited more to the OOC thread, but don't give up on the RP just like that!

Seriously, not only did most of the other players leave, but, we have the endless Mercs and money, über planes that can strike the other side of the country, nukes (on Blainesville, which borders me), unresponsive players, the threat of WWIII sparking (it almost did), arguments on wether one can invade BC to take down GC, hundreds if not thousands of ships cluttering the coasts, oh, and the OOC and arguments which caused some of said countries to leave (Ignore Dephire, scared off Trivalvia, Beiraq and Achmara havent posted in weeks, some of them disagree with my accounting techniques and left), and somehow, Maldorians managed to buy 12,000 Benemoth IIIs and have them ALL transported here (O_O).

Maybe, we can restart this thread over, with a CLOSED tab and a certain number of players.

he's just mad that he doesnt have Aequatio and Shazbotdom to help him

Thus proving my point, you dont know when to shut up, do you?

Seriously, not only did most of the other players leave, but, we have the endless Mercs and money, über planes that can strike the other side of the country, nukes (on Blainesville, which borders me), unresponsive players, the threat of WWIII sparking (it almost did), arguments on wether one can invade BC to take down GC, hundreds if not thousands of ships cluttering the coasts, oh, and the OOC and arguments which caused some of said countries to leave (Ignore Dephire, scared off Trivalvia, Beiraq and Achmara havent posted in weeks, some of them disagree with my accounting techniques and left), and somehow, Maldorians managed to buy 12,000 Benemoth IIIs and have them ALL transported here (O_O).

Maybe, we can restart this thread over, with a CLOSED tab and a certain number of players.


I NEVER saw a rule that said
"Maldorians cannot buy 12,000 Benemoth III's and have them shipped to a place called The World Soviet Party."

Please show me where it says that.

Seriously, not only did most of the other players leave, but, we have the endless Mercs and money, über planes that can strike the other side of the country, nukes (on Blainesville, which borders me), unresponsive players, the threat of WWIII sparking (it almost did), arguments on wether one can invade BC to take down GC, hundreds if not thousands of ships cluttering the coasts, oh, and the OOC and arguments which caused some of said countries to leave (Ignore Dephire, scared off Trivalvia, Beiraq and Achmara havent posted in weeks, some of them disagree with my accounting techniques and left), and somehow, Maldorians managed to buy 12,000 Benemoth IIIs and have them ALL transported here (O_O).

Maybe, we can restart this thread over, with a CLOSED tab and a certain number of players.


I second That.

If we restart, we should close it just from where we left off, with the CA owning a chunk of your nation, because this just is not fair.

I NEVER saw a rule that said
"Maldorians cannot buy 12,000 Benemoth III's and have them shipped to a place called The World Soviet Party."

Please show me where it says that.

Thats a massive Logistical problem, but if you can do it, then you can

If we restart, we should close it just from where we left off, with the CA owning a chunk of your nation, because this just is not fair.

Thats a good option which I want to further discuss, you have MSN?

Thats a good option which I want to further discuss, you have MSN?

I have AIM

Seriously, not only did most of the other players leave, but, we have the endless Mercs and money, über planes that can strike the other side of the country, nukes (on Blainesville, which borders me), unresponsive players, the threat of WWIII sparking (it almost did), arguments on wether one can invade BC to take down GC, hundreds if not thousands of ships cluttering the coasts, oh, and the OOC and arguments which caused some of said countries to leave (Ignore Dephire, scared off Trivalvia, Beiraq and Achmara havent posted in weeks, some of them disagree with my accounting techniques and left), and somehow, Maldorians managed to buy 12,000 Benemoth IIIs and have them ALL transported here (O_O).

Maybe, we can restart this thread over, with a CLOSED tab and a certain number of players.

I think that players leaving is sort of realistic, like when the war dragges on for too long and/or political situtations at home change (think Russia in WWI); it is a certain aspect of warfare and a good way to win: break the will of the enemy to fight. When the allies of the enemy fall off, the war is progressing swiftly in your favor.

The endless mercs and money as well as the uber planes and such are problematic, but should be resolved in the OOC thread. While I aggree with you that that has been a serious problem, it is not enough to abandon an RP with so many other good aspects.

Perhaps an immediate reorganization?

Perhaps an immediate reorganization?

Which is what BC is aiming at.

@ BC

Check your TGs.

I think a reorganization is exactly what they're looking to do. Personally, I think it's a good thing - might give a chance for some of us to learn from our mistakes and turn this RP into something better. And a new thread for the RP's "second phase" would be a good idea, IMO, with a "what has gone on before" post to start things off and help us get our bearings.

I think a reorganization is exactly what they're looking to do. Personally, I think it's a good thing - might give a chance for some of us to learn from our mistakes and turn this RP into something better. And a new thread for the RP's "second phase" would be a good idea, IMO, with a "what has gone on before" post to start things off and help us get our bearings.

It would also be a good chance to get straight exactly who has what where.

OOC: So what? The Undershi fleet uses rail guns - mostly it uses missiles, but what conventional artillery it does have consists of Gauss guns - i.e. rail guns. Oh yeah, and I've got 12 carriers, 84 cruisers, 86 destroyers, tons of submarines and support ships and transports.

The Undershi fleet is now focusing on the Hatarian fleet - its carriers have launched their air craft, a total of 3,000 Thunderer fighter-bombers - of which 1,000 are currently outfitted to act as fighters, the other 2,000 to act as anti-shipping bombers.
In addition to the aerial attack currently underway, the Hatarian fleet is being targeted with a massive missile barrage from the main Undershi fleet.

OOC: Errikland: Can you add the areas that all Forces, enemy and Allied are to that map?

OOC: So what? The Undershi fleet uses rail guns - mostly it uses missiles, but what conventional artillery it does have consists of Gauss guns - i.e. rail guns. Oh yeah, and I've got 12 carriers, 84 cruisers, 86 destroyers, tons of submarines and support ships and transports.

The Undershi fleet is now focusing on the Hatarian fleet - its carriers have launched their air craft, a total of 3,000 Thunderer fighter-bombers - of which 1,000 are currently outfitted to act as fighters, the other 2,000 to act as anti-shipping bombers.
In addition to the aerial attack currently underway, the Hatarian fleet is being targeted with a massive missile barrage from the main Undershi fleet.


OOC: 3,000 Planes from each carrier? even though there are 12, I still think it is godmod.

OOC: So what? The Undershi fleet uses rail guns - mostly it uses missiles, but what conventional artillery it does have consists of Gauss guns - i.e. rail guns. Oh yeah, and I've got 12 carriers, 84 cruisers, 86 destroyers, tons of submarines and support ships and transports.

The Undershi fleet is now focusing on the Hatarian fleet - its carriers have launched their air craft, a total of 3,000 Thunderer fighter-bombers - of which 1,000 are currently outfitted to act as fighters, the other 2,000 to act as anti-shipping bombers.
In addition to the aerial attack currently underway, the Hatarian fleet is being targeted with a massive missile barrage from the main Undershi fleet.


The enemy Missiles and Planes here detected by RADAR and soon Anti-Aircraft and Anti-Missiles Defenses were ready as The Carriers soon started sending up their own Planes, to take out the enemy Planes.

the Anti-Missile defenses soon started fireing, the AJO-56 Anti-Missile Missile was fired, along with Anti-Missile Guns, they hit The enemy Missiles but a few did get past and sunk 12 Destroyers and Damaged 19 Cruisers, But the Hatarians soon attacked with ther own more deadly Missiles, namely Cruise Missiles, but the Sango soon launched 16 new Missiles into of all Places the water.......but these were no normal Missiles.

The Threasher Shark Cruise Missile was made to go under water to a depth of 300 Miles below The Surface. then Go Strait up, gided by Satellite to its target, Hitting the bottom of it ship it self, the weakest Part of any Ship.

and all 16 were targeting the carriers.

The Others, about 45 Fired from Each Destroyer, 23 from each cruiser and 12 from each Sub, was heading for the enemy Fleet.

OOC: 3,000 Planes from each carrier? even though there are 12, I still think it is godmod.

OOC: Three thousand TOTAL, captain... That makes sixty-two point four per carrier, which I believe to be fine. Think before godmod...

Thats a good option which I want to further discuss, you have MSN?

OOC: It's a good idea. Just ditch this thread and close the new one. There's no reason why any of the war should be reveresed or undone, just... less people to clutter it.

OOC: It's a good idea. Just ditch this thread and close the new one. There's no reason why any of the war should be reveresed or undone, just... less people to clutter it.
yea, well real war doesnt say "o this is closed, please dont join."

It is more fun with people joining and leaving like in real war.

he's just mad that he doesnt have Aequatio and Shazbotdom to help him

OOC:
I personally left becaue of the general Flamebait and Bullshit from those members on the Coporate Alliance side. And now that i read on at most of YOUR posts, it reitterates my reason for leaving. I suggest that The World Soviet Party just ignore any future attacks in this thread until the CA membership can come to an agreement to just stop the flamebait parade upon members of the GASN.




P.S. I'm going to moderation to ask for MY OOC THREAD (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498733) to be closed.

OOC:
I personally left becaue of the general Flamebait and Bullshit from those members on the Coporate Alliance side. And now that i read on at most of YOUR posts, it reitterates my reason for leaving. I suggest that The World Soviet Party just ignore any future attacks in this thread until the CA membership can come to an agreement to just stop the flamebait parade upon members of the GASN.




P.S. I'm going to moderation to ask for MY OOC THREAD (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498733) to be closed.


OOC: I think that The CA is mad because most of The GASN are good RPers and know how to RP viva READING THE RULES!

and most younger nations, Namely Blackhelm are Jelious of The older Nation mainly for being Bigger and more knowing of RPing then them.

In short, i think that The CA will still Flame, troll, Godmod and Flamebait till they get kicked off or get banned for ever.

OOC: I think that The CA is mad because most of The GASN are good RPers and know how to RP viva READING THE RULES!

and most younger nations, Namely Blackhelm are Jelious of The older Nation mainly for being Bigger and more knowing of RPing then them.

In short, i think that The CA will still Flame, troll, Godmod and Flamebait till they get kicked off or get banned for ever.

Thats possible....

OOC: I think that The CA is mad because most of The GASN are good RPers and know how to RP viva READING THE RULES!

OOC: I hope you don't consider yourself on the GASN side of that.



In short, i think that The CA will still Flame, troll, Godmod and Flamebait till they get kicked off or get banned for ever.
OOC: Becuase you've never done that...

Thats possible....

OOC: Oh and jsut for news, My War with Demon 666 will go on soon after TWSP's front is won and My Invasion of Undershi ends.

OOC: If you haven't noticed, I am invading The World Soviet Party, and I have not "Flame, troll, Godmod and Flamebait" 'd, you know, besides that back there, but... nyah!

Anyway, stop whining and try and RP, lets just let this go. We'll finish the fight, okay? If the entire CA breaks off in swearing fits, I'll believe you.

OOC: Errikland: Can you add the areas that all Forces, enemy and Allied are to that map?

Sure, but I need to know where they all are first

Sure, but I need to know where they all are first

I am heading for St. John from The West, (near the Area where Germany meet Denmark in RL)

I am heading for St. John from The West, (near the Area where Germany meet Denmark in RL)

No you arn't, for the last damn time! You can't have landed there, there are several fleets in that area which would have engaged you. <_<

Zukariaa;11799782']No you arn't, for the last damn time! You can't have landed there, there are several fleets in that area which would have engaged you. <_<

OOOC: Stop gripeing like a Old maid and RP!

OOOC: Stop gripeing like a Old maid and RP!

We can't RP with you when you godmod your way straight through out fleets and land troops in occupied territory..

hataria check your tgs.

hataria check your tgs.


I TGed you back

OOOC: Stop gripeing like a Old maid and RP!

OOC: Stop whining like a small child and realize you have to have a way to get in!

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Hat, just engage their fleet, mop the floor with them, and land.

Only will take between 3 and 15 posts.

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Hat, just engage their fleet, mop the floor with them, and land.

Only will take between 3 and 15 posts.

OOC: Yeah... mop the floor... That'll go well.

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Hat, just engage their fleet, mop the floor with them, and land.

Only will take between 3 and 15 posts.

I.all.ready.landed.oy!

I.all.ready.landed.oy!

there.are.many.fleets.in.the.way.!.

I.all.ready.landed.oy!

Hmm.. let's see.. I have 150 ships, Pudu has several hundred ships, Undershi is arriving with a bunch of ships, and Blackhelm has a bunch of ships..

How exactly did you get through all of that and land inside of occupied territory?

OOC: I had a nice post, but the Jolt-demons ate it. Here's a summary:

Due to excelent anti-torpedo technology, the Hatarian super-torpedoes only do light damage to one carrier.
Additional losses are: 19 destroyers and four cruisers, plus 48 Undershi aircraft. Also, the Thunderers have deployed their anti-shipping missiles, targeting the Hatarian fleet... while the missile barrage of the enemy fleet by the Undershi fleet continues.

K. For Hataria's benifit, I'll allow him to read one of my archieved landings, which almost borderlined on godmod, and I'll ppoint them out:

Starting 5 miles from shore, bad idea. I was given some grace since I was a newbie, and moved out to 20 some miles before trying again.

Simply, start RPing (or end of first intro post) where you expect to be seen.

Submarine thing (you'll recognize when you read it) don't tell them what their scopes say, just RP what the boat does (and the crew on board).

Dogfight: was edited a number of times, the firsyt version I mopped them good, but due to a technicallity the key weapon system I used was either flawed or forgot to RP it was equiped. Therefore, another rendition was put in to replace it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9846669#post9846669

OOC: I had a nice post, but the Jolt-demons ate it. Here's a summary:

Due to excelent anti-torpedo technology, the Hatarian super-torpedoes only do light damage to one carrier.
Additional losses are: 19 destroyers and four cruisers, plus 48 Undershi aircraft. Also, the Thunderers have deployed their anti-shipping missiles, targeting the Hatarian fleet... while the missile barrage of the enemy fleet by the Undershi fleet continues.

OOC: DID YOU NOT SAW WHAT I POSTED?!?! The Missiles go to 300 Miles then "Come up at the Bottom of the Ship." not The sides like Normal Missiles and Torpedoes THE &%(^$@ BOTTOM!:mad:

OOC: DID YOU NOT SAW WHAT I POSTED?!?! The Missiles go to 300 Miles then "Come up at the Bottom of the Ship." not The sides like Normal Missiles and Torpedoes THE &%(^$@ BOTTOM!:mad:

I dunno, did you saw it?

Anyways, settle down. Torpedoes that come from the bottom arn't as new or inovative as you might think. Plenty of people use them, and it is quite possible that he has created defences for just that type of thing.

OOC: I am now dropping out of this RP and I ask TWSP to do the same, along with Maldorians and others who don't Flame, Godmod and other things.

and I also say the We all Ignore The CA (Save for Maldorians since he didn't do anything wrong) till they straiten up their act.

Zukariaa;11801052']I dunno, did you saw it?

Anyways, settle down. Torpedoes that come from the bottom arn't as new or inovative as you might think. Plenty of people use them, and it is quite possible that he has created defences for just that type of thing.

Hataria isn't American or English so they don't spell that well in English. Harassing them about it by saying "I dunno, did you saw it?" can be considered flamebait. I suggest that you watch your wording.

OOC: DID YOU NOT SAW WHAT I POSTED?!?! The Missiles go to 300 Miles then "Come up at the Bottom of the Ship." not The sides like Normal Missiles and Torpedoes THE &%(^$@ BOTTOM!:mad:

OOC: And it's the CA who are the godmoding, flaming, trolling evil human beings?

Hey, Hataria, guess what! The ocean off the coast of Denmark is not 300 miles deep! Not even close! Go make up some different technology... In fact, nowhere in the world is six-hundred miles deep, the deepest the ocean gets in the Real World is some six-point seven miles deep in the Mariana Trench in the Pacific. I doubt that the NS world can be too different.

Hataria isn't American or English so they don't spell that well in English. Harassing them about it by saying "I dunno, did you saw it?" can be considered flamebait. I suggest that you watch your wording.

As far as I know, he is American.

And even if he is not, I could care or less. Don't "suggest" anything to me, because I don't want to hear it.

OOC: And it's the CA who are the godmoding, flaming, trolling evil human beings?

Hey, Hataria, guess what! The ocean off the coast of Denmark is not 300 miles deep! Not even close! Go make up some different technology... In fact, nowhere in the world is six-hundred miles deep, the deepest the ocean gets in the Real World is some six-point seven miles deep in the Mariana Trench in the Pacific. I doubt that the NS world can be too different.

I think he means range, and that the missile dives a bit more than usual and then surfaces underneath.

Like the mirror image of what a top attack sea skimming missile does...

Zuk is thinking about the 'keelbreaker' magnetic torpedoes first used in the 1930's and 40's...

Still, a defense against it is possable.

And you have a point, as Hataria refuses to RP his forces actually landing or approaching the beach.

So did one of the following happen yet?
1> BC responds to my post

2> Beiraq posts what exactly I'm up against.

Additional:
And english is a crazy language,
it is generally written as:
Did you not see what I posted?

Did is past tense, and allows see/saw to be put into present tense.

Example 2:
Did you not wash the dishes?
vs
Have you not washed the dishes?

Encountered something similar in German III.

Zuk is thinking about the 'keelbreaker' magnetic torpedoes first used in the 1930's and 40's...

Um.. no, but whatever. I was thinking of torpedoes that go down and come back up on your hull? Never heard of those, but I guess they're the same thing.

OOC: Well, Hataria, I take being called a godmodding wanker badly... and here's the explenation for the lack of effectivenss of your uber-torpedoes, re-typed after the Jolt-demons ate my first attempt:

The Undershi fleet uses anti-torpedo torpedoes - small, fast, torpedoes meant to intercept other torpedoes. Additionally, all Undershi naval vessels use torpedo netting. The super-torpedoes were coming in, so my perimiter ships fired off six ATTs (anti-torpedo torpedoes) at each of them - then, when a few of them got through and neared the carriers, they each fired off six ATTs for each of your uber-torpedoes still left in action. Then, one got through, and hit the torpedo netting - which isn't a very useful defensive tactic, and so didn't do that much - and the uber-torpedo hit, and smashed open the hull... into a seal-able compartment - Undershi naval ships have plenty of sealable compartments... just like most other naval vessels meant to survive damage.
That impact caused 14 deaths and dozens of injuries, and, since it hit a supply room, also denied hundreds of cases of corned beef and saurkraut to the Undershi fleet.

OOC2: If you doubt that an ATT system could exist, google it - there is already talk of creating one of them for use in the U.S. Navy or the Royal Navy. So, let's put it into perspective - you fire off 16 new-model super missiles, I counter with 96 counter-missiles from my pickets, then another 6 times however many get through from the carriers they were targeting, then announce that one got through and caused 14 cassualties and dozens of injuries, as well as a little comic bit with the "denied the Undershi fleet the use of hundreds of cases of corned beef and saurkraut". I don't see how that was godmodding, wanking, or anything else you want to call it. Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.

Pudite Fleet off shore of The World Soviet Party, New Orders, The Fight Continues
Admiral Panslovak waited in his lowest command chamber, meeting with his remaining captains, discussing strategy for the continuation of the Soviet Party war and the possibility of a land invasion through friendly bordering countries, The Admiral spoke, "I have reports of contact between our own government and that of Ackistani foreigners. We have permission to land our craft as well as the planes, on their shores. It is even possible that we may land soldiers soon."

Another man spoke, "Sir, may I question the wisdom of opening a third front in this invasion, we already have mechanized soldiers in St. John and an armored column in the south, need we a further logistical strain?"

Mr. Grey, Panslovak's loyal aide, spoke for his commander, "Captain, I remind you, with the speed and power of Field Marshal Vladislav's forces, the Ackistani forces could meet up with his in days following the attack."

The other captain responded again, "But still, we'll have to supply the logistical column for them before the attack and before they meet Vladislav's men. It would still drain resources, we should-"

The Captain was interrupted by the ringing of the phone hanging on the wall of the small black room. Admiral Panslovak stood, and answered it, "Hello?"

There was silence for a few seconds, Panslovak spoke again, "We've just come out of a large battle, is this wise?"

Another few seconds... he spoke again, "Yes sir, of course sir."

There were a few seconds further, then, finally, "Alright, of course. We're on our way."

Admiral Panslovak hung up the telephone and stepped back to his seat, resting his fists on the table as he leaned forward to speak, "Men, we're on the move again! Foreign allied fleet in danger, we're moving to protect."

Panslovak stepped back as the congregated officers stood, gathering their papers and aides, the Admiral continued, "Get to your ships, boys. We're the cavalry, and its bad form to arrive late!"


Only minutes later the Captains helicopters had touched down on hundreds of different ships, all returning from various similar tactical meetings. Only seconds after that the entire roughly three-hundred ship fleet lurched forward. They would be moving out, they had only a few miles to go before they could open fire with their longest-range weapons. This fleet would be leaving behind five Portlandia class missile cruisers to oversee the amphibious beach-head. Everything else would move to protect the Undershi fleet...

First, the Pudite escort ships would open fire with their own small anti-shipping missiles, totaling well over forty-thousand missiles, speeding forward at speeds regularly reaching mach four, toward the Hatarian fleet. Each of these two-hundred and twenty pound missiles were capable of sinking a small destroyer, and Panslovak, who watched the missile's launch from his command tower, was sure they would...

The Pudite fleet was reading and moving to relieve the dangers present to the Undershi fleet sailors. Hataria would be defeated, it was certain...

OOC: I'm withdrawing from this thread. Pudu has control of my small force. So...buh bye for now!

OOC: I'm putting myself "on hold" while the TWSP and Blackhelm Confederacy sort out what to do with this RP. BC, I'll be sending you a telegram in the next day or two, hopefully so we can iron out details of my involvement (or not) when the RP resumes.

OOC: I am also curious if this war is still being fought. I saw TWSP post that he didn't want to be involved any longer, but the thread seems to still be going somewhat...

Anyway, I share a border with TWSP, and wanted to know what is going on before I make a long post about how I am fortifying my eastern border to keep all these armies out.

OOC: Fair enough - TWSP and BC are (presumably) in discussion about closing this thread and opening a new one, to help clean up the RP as a whole and make things run more smoothly. Don't think anyone knows how long that will take or what the ultimate result will be.

OOC: I think the war should go on. We could (should) make a new thread though, to clear this one out and make the whole thing run smoother. As long as people stop whining, or ignoring ships *cough*Hataria*cough*, then it should all be fine. Let's keep going!

OOC: Sorry for another OOC comment, but I also cannot stay in this RP because I have too many allies that contradict eacother..for example:

Emperor Pudu
Hataria
Zukariaa (At least I think he is an ally even if he thinks not.)
TWSP
Blackhelm (We got trade routes mate:D ;) )
Shatzbotdom
Undershi
Hurtful Thoughts
etc..

But like I said, I'm leaving the control of my small group to Pudu. Hopefully they don't become stupid and run around shooting everything that moves. See yah!

Assuming this war is going forward, can everyone give me a summary of their forces and point them out on an edited map so that I can add it all together and make a comprehensive map, please? That will make all of this so much easier to understand.

OOC: My map requires little editing, I have a single legion of mechanized and armored divisions in the southern CA-occupied city, roughly one-hundred and fifty thousand tanks and two-hundred thousand men.

In St. John du Caen there are five-hundred thousand men, including mechanized equipment such as tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.

Off the coast of TWSP I have a General Purpose Fleet and an Amphibious fleet, which totals something around three-hundred combat ships and as well as hundreds of amphibious ships and landing craft. I don't have those statistics with me; they're on my other computer.

I also have two fighter groups here; about one-hundred and fifty F-41A VTOL fighters and fifty DP-21G ground attack and EW planes each, plus the helicopter contingents of both Legions and the amphibious landing defenders, of which there are two-hundred thousand.

I have a fleet that I will post about shortly that is on its way with the contents of three General Purpose fleets as well as the Pudite Second Army Group, roughly two-million men. Following will be an indeterminate pair of air fleets, bomber and fighter, respectively. Each air fleet is about a thousand planes.

OOC: My map requires little editing, I have a single legion of mechanized and armored divisions in the southern CA-occupied city, roughly one-hundred and fifty thousand tanks and two-hundred thousand men.

In St. John du Caen there are five-hundred thousand men, including mechanized equipment such as tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.

Off the coast of TWSP I have a General Purpose Fleet and an Amphibious fleet, which totals something around three-hundred combat ships and as well as hundreds of amphibious ships and landing craft. I don't have those statistics with me; they're on my other computer.

I also have two fighter groups here; about one-hundred and fifty F-41A VTOL fighters and fifty DP-21G ground attack and EW planes each, plus the helicopter contingents of both Legions and the amphibious landing defenders, of which there are two-hundred thousand.

I have a fleet that I will post about shortly that is on its way with the contents of three General Purpose fleets as well as the Pudite Second Army Group, roughly two-million men. Following will be an indeterminate pair of air fleets, bomber and fighter, respectively. Each air fleet is about a thousand planes.


OOC: And three thousand Dephirian Parasoldiers..

Assuming this war is going forward, can everyone give me a summary of their forces and point them out on an edited map so that I can add it all together and make a comprehensive map, please? That will make all of this so much easier to understand.


OOC:
Ackistan has no forces in TWSP.

However, my nation is located in Belgium and Netherlands, which places me right by all the fighting. My army will be stationed along my eastern borders to keep the various armies from wandering into my country. I haven't role-play that mobilization, but I will if it is decided this thread is continuing.

While I don't speak for Tivalvia, I know that country also shares borders with TWSP. His nation is located in Luxembourg and France.

OOC:
Ackistan has no forces in TWSP.

However, my nation is located in Belgium and Netherlands, which places me right by all the fighting. My army will be stationed along my eastern borders to keep the various armies from wandering into my country. I haven't role-play that mobilization, but I will if it is decided this thread is continuing.

While I don't speak for Tivalvia, I know that country also shares borders with TWSP. His nation is located in Luxembourg and France.

Modified my map to show you and Trivalvia's borders with me, is that ok?

OOC:
Ackistan has no forces in TWSP.

However, my nation is located in Belgium and Netherlands, which places me right by all the fighting. My army will be stationed along my eastern borders to keep the various armies from wandering into my country. I haven't role-play that mobilization, but I will if it is decided this thread is continuing.

While I don't speak for Tivalvia, I know that country also shares borders with TWSP. His nation is located in Luxembourg and France.

Hmm . . . I thought he also had Belgium and the Netherlands . . . I will add you. What side do you currently support?

Modified my map to show you and Trivalvia's borders with me, is that ok?

OOC: Cool

I didn't realize I was next to you until I happened to take a look at the combat map in this thread. I always assumed you were in Russia :D

Modified my map to show you and Trivalvia's borders with me, is that ok?

Oh. I will have to change some stuff. But it all makes more sense now. Cool.

Hmm . . . I thought he also had Belgium and the Netherlands . . . I will add you. What side do you currently support?

OOC: My nation doesn't belong to any alliance, but I do have a grudge against GASN & good relations with Pudu and Blackhelm.

My army would be outmatched by the stuff you guys have, so I will probably stay out of it, but I will probably grant basing rights.

OOC: My nation doesn't belong to any alliance, but I do have a grudge against GASN & good relations with Pudu and Blackhelm.

My army would be outmatched by the stuff you guys have, so I will probably stay out of it, but I will probably grant basing rights.

'k

Can I check out the new map?

I like to keep copies of the latest stuff on me computer.

Can I check out the new map?

I like to keep copies of the latest stuff on me computer.

Here (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Errikland/NS/untitled02.png) is it so far.

750 thousand troops

Behind the Corprate Alliance front lines

a "warfleet" between the coast and CA controled boats

And an airfield, at which it is expected that another 1.45 millio troops will flow through.

'k

Blainesville was nuked, plus, I still have a 70,000 men army in Zurich (one of his cities)

Blainesville was nuked, plus, I still have a 70,000 men army in Zurich (one of his cities)

I understood that he was out of the fight. His minor enclave is irrelevant if he cannot get together an army to defend it. I thought that you were just going to ignore it until the war was over, since it is not a threat.

Why maintain such large forces elsewhere? Don't you need all of the men you can muster to defend your nation?

750 thousand troops

Behind the Corprate Alliance front lines

a "warfleet" between the coast and CA controled boats

And an airfield, at which it is expected that another 1.45 millio troops will flow through.

um . . . could you be a little more specific?

I understood that he was out of the fight. His minor enclave is irrelevant if he cannot get together an army to defend it. I thought that you were just going to ignore it until the war was over, since it is not a threat.

Why maintain such large forces elsewhere? Don't you need all of the men you can muster to defend your nation?

Actually, it was a counter-invasion.

Actually, it was a counter-invasion.

I see. So you pushed his forces back into his own nation, which was then nuked?

I see. So you pushed his forces back into his own nation, which was then nuked?

I think it was more of "Our armies passed right by each other but didnt notice".

And yes, he was nuked by Clandonia Prime (that earned him condemn from all of us, except Mationbuds).

Ohh seeing that map I'm tempted to commit forces again to fight the Ackistanis if they try anything against my socialist bretheren.

I think it was more of "Our armies passed right by each other but didnt notice".

And yes, he was nuked by Clandonia Prime (that earned him condemn from all of us, except Mationbuds).

So you passed right by . . . ? Okay. I understand.

The question still remains, though, as to why you continue to occupy them with such force, which could be well used in the north, when the nuclear strike(s) render them no longer a threat?

Ohh seeing that map I'm tempted to commit forces again to fight the Ackistanis if they try anything against my socialist bretheren.

185 vs. 143 . . . that would be a good fight, assuming you didn't use nukes.

185 vs. 143 . . . that would be a good fight, assuming you didn't use nukes.

OOC: He chickened out the last three times!

OOC: Blainesville and I are in the same region, which is why I decided to role-play my nation being near his. I noticed on the NSEconomy tracker for our region that he hasn't logged into his nation for 10 days. I would guess he is no longer playing.

If his nation wasn't nuclear waste, I would probably invade him myself. His naughty behavior is constantly causing me problems.

Ohh seeing that map I'm tempted to commit forces again to fight the Ackistanis if they try anything against my socialist bretheren.

If you do that, I'll have no choice but to cut diplomatic ties with your nation afre publicly condeming the action.

OOC: He chickened out the last three times!

I seriously doubt it would be just the two of you involved, however.

If you do that, I'll have no choice but to cut diplomatic ties with your nation afre publicly condeming the action.

OOC: Fine if you don't want my help to stop your nation being invaded. :rolleyes:

OOC: Fine if you don't want my help to stop your nation being invaded. :rolleyes:

OOC: ICily, my people distrust you for resorting to WMDs so easily, OOCily, I have no problem wiith you.

OOC: ICily, my people distrust you for resorting to WMDs so easily, OOCily, I have no problem wiith you.

OOC: Oh right, this thread is confusing the lines of IC and OOC are blurred I suggest a new thread is begun about who and what is still fighting in the TWSP.

OOC: Clandonia Prime, we've already argued endlessly in 3 other threads. I don't want to hijack this thread so we can have a 4th. If people care to know what happened between us (which I doubt), they can read the other 3 threads.

750 thousand troops

Behind the Corprate Alliance front lines

a "warfleet" between the coast and CA controled boats

And an airfield, at which it is expected that another 1.45 millio troops will flow through.

OOC: Which side are you on?

OOC: Which side are you on?

OOC: hes on the GASN side

OOC: Oh right, this thread is confusing the lines of IC and OOC are blurred I suggest a new thread is begun about who and what is still fighting in the TWSP.

OOC: We've talked about doing that, and it's a really good idea.

um . . . could you be a little more specific?

Northern TWSP, north of St. John...
Occupy land from Field base to coastline.
Bell curve shaped front.

Advancing on St. John.

OOC:

TWSP and Errikland; the maps look great.

Now I have to modify the west part of my map so that it will fit with this map okay... wait, that means more work! Argh! :p

As for my forces - I'll want to discuss this with TWSP and BC, but I plan to drop 128 troopers and a few spies near Griffincrest/Soviet lines to the west (roughly where Ackistan meets TWSP). More formal forces will be waiting until my government decides one way or another to enter the war openly.

EDIT: DONE! I've adjusted my map so that it's in sync with the others. (Had to take a few liberties with neighboring territory... Ackistan if you're not happy with the boundaries talk to me and we'll work something out). Biggest pain was the different scales we were working at (I had 1 pixel = 1 km, TWSP had 1 pixel = 5 km, roughly). So now Trivalvia's a lot larger and roomier than it was before.

Here's the map:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/andrewc3/trivalviaandneighbors.jpg

OOC: hes on the GASN side

OOC: How'd he get behind the CA lines then, you know, without the lines moving?

And how is his fleet in the middle of the CA fleets off the coast, without a large naval battle?

OOC: How'd he get behind the CA lines then, you know, without the lines moving?

And how is his fleet in the middle of the CA fleets off the coast, without a large naval battle?

I'll answer that one...

I gave the false impression that I was on their side, and extracted the locations of their main lines of resistance.

Declared war after troops reached land (and looked extra pretty for the camera, in comical Hurtian fashion [in competition with the leaflet raid]) blew up 2 major Griffencrest airbases, and bull rushed my massive fleet upon those supporting Griffencrest.

So, now I'm engaging in a one sided naval battle in my favor (10 boats against 20 cruisers, 40 destroyers and 40 submarines)

I guess BC is still in shock, if he doesn't post a response soon, someone get the coroner.

I'll answer that one...

I gave the false impression that I was on their side, and extracted the locations of their main lines of resistance.

Declared war after troops reached land (and looked extra pretty for the camera, in comical Hurtian fashion [in competition with the leaflet raid]) blew up 2 major Griffencrest airbases, and bull rushed my massive fleet upon those supporting Griffencrest.

So, now I'm engaging in a one sided naval battle in my favor (10 boats against 20 cruisers, 40 destroyers and 40 submarines)

I guess BC is still in shock, if he doesn't post a response soon, someone get the coroner.

OOC: Ah, wonderful...

Well, when I've finished with Hataria I may have a thing or two to shout at your fleet...

Also, I have five-hundred thousand men approaching St. Johns, sooo... If you could tell me a little bit more about what's going down up there, that'd be great.

OOC: Ah, wonderful...

Well, when I've finished with Hataria I may have a thing or two to shout at your fleet...

Also, I have five-hundred thousand men approaching St. Johns, sooo... If you could tell me a little bit more about what's going down up there, that'd be great.

St. John appears to have had been shelled to the point of obliteration during previous land battles, Beiraq is in the area (I guess) with HT-106E1s.

Lucky for you the only heavy artillery I brought are on my boats...

Still, you'll notice my military had a massive facelift since our last near encounter. (Finally found something to replace the RPG-7, currently designated the HM-203, tis an underbarrel smoothbore rocket/grenade launcher [closed tube], cross between a PIAT, M-203, and RPG-7)

Well, from what I was reading, Maldorians took control, Rustov attacked and failed. So Maldorians is in control of it, I believe.

I have number of rocket artillery there as well as elite Republican Guard forces and a few remaining BMP-1's.

OOC: Alright then, I'll be showing up soon. I'll make a post soon.

OOC: I'm tempted after seeing the map to be involved in this conflict but it means I would have to land troop either in Ackistan or Trivalvia to reach TWSP....

OOC: I'm also tempted to join this war... Warnings have been issued that I may be attacked by Griffencrest because of Icovir's natural fossil fuel.

OOC: I'll put up a post later today about Kliuchnikov's Legion nearing St. John du Caen. Then probably something about a new Army Group in Ackistan and Vladislav's Legion arriving in that southern city whose name I continue to forget...

Northern Soviet Party, 2nd Marine Legion, St. John du Caen
General Kliuchnikov rode at the head of his column as his formation neared the battle-torn city. He was riding in the gunnery turret on his Legions lead command LV-08. Behind him stretched a line of soldiers and vehicles stretching miles into the horizon, all living only under the orders of their general, and ready to sacrifice those lives just as quickly, confident that his actions were those of the Emperor. And, to make sure they were, the man riding next to Kliuchnikov was the Emperor's own Commissar, a man by the name of Mikhail. He rode in silence, observing the Emperor's forces from behind his glass and steel protection.

There were five-hundred thousand men nearing the city of St. John, backed up by thousands of support vehicles and infantry fighting vehicles. Totaled, there were fifteen thousand of the advanced SIV-25 armored combat vehicles, each bringing along ten soldiers and an advanced weapons system...

These were supported by nearly twice that number of the LV-08, most of which were, in addition to carrying their formations command and weapons teams, a small or medium sized artillery piece. Ranging from the durable eighty-eight millimeter anti-aircraft GA-4, to the eleven-ton, one-hundred and fifty-five millimeter gun/howitzer, the GA-8. All of these were flanked by the less numerous, but still quite formidable, self-propelled artillery pieces. There were twelve-thousand and five hundred self-propelled anti-aircraft missile and gun systems, three-thousand GMA-5 one-hundred and fifty-five millimeter howitzers, seven-hundred and fifty hundred and twenty-eight millimeter self-propelled anti-tank guns, and one-thousand five hundred two-hundred and forty millimeter self-propelled medium howitzers.

This monolithic force would come into sight of their objective soon, their pathfinders even sooner. These light infantrymen operated a few miles forward of the main force, clearing the way and scouting objectives and routes. They had at their back the full support of the Dominion's self-propelled artillery, and it was put to good use...

In minutes the first LV-mobile pathfinder platoons would roll into the suburbs of St. John, and from there the twelve-hundred and fifty man force would spread out through the city, scouting and reporting any possible resistance. There was, as of now, very limited intelligence on the city, hopefully the pathfinder's assault would shed some light...


Southern Soviet Party, 1st Marine Legion, Gustavich
Field Marshal Vladislav's armored forces had just rolled into the foreign city of Gustavich, their tank and armored vehicle platoons rolling up and down each and every one of the captured city's streets, establishing for themselves an idea of the city that was to become their headquarters in this theater.

Vladislav would not wait in the city for long though, he had recently received word of a larger force, an army made up of the entirety of the second Pudite Army Group. They, and their commander, Field Marshal Petrov Romil, were going to be arriving, along with another General Purpose fleet and Surface Battle fleet, off the shores of the nearby nation of Ackistan. There they would dock all but their largest ships, and unload every one of the two-million soldiers under Romil's command. This gargantuan force would then proceed to move immediately to the border of the two nations. There they would cross over, into the nation of the Soviet Party, and rush immediately into the city of Luluville, which they would take, by whatever means were necessary.

Meanwhile, Vladislav and his armored forces would move out from Gustavich to press the attack on the city from another direction, thus dividing the defenders and forcing them to defeat, for surely, defeat was not an option for the Pudite forces.

Vladislav would leave Gustavich in five hours, proceeding immediately to the front lines of this war and punching a Legion-shaped hole in them through not-so-subtle application of the Dominion's latest tank, the highly advanced ST-39K1 'Mekhev II' main battle tank. Some would remember it's predecessor from the Chitzelandian campaigns, and for other it would be their first time. Both were unfortunate positions.

The war could not last long here, the Emperor was busy opening new fronts, and soon these troops would be needed elsewhere...



OOC: On another note... 1,750th post!

OOC - I'm going to have to retcon my earlier attempt to insert a covert ops force...

I just gave my updated map a closer look... thanks to the revised scale and size of Trivalvia, none of my airbases are able to send fighters or transport planes anywhere near CA occupied territory, hence the airdrop was impossible. Sorry for the mess, guys... I'll have to see about whether I can send in sabotage teams on land and do this the right way this time... :sniper:

Two OOC things:

1) Would it be fine with you gentlemen if I made Denmark an Errikan Colony just to give me some ICly logical direct interest in this war?

2) Could someone gather together a list of those fighting on each side so that I can get some statistics for the same day (such as pop, government budget, etc.)?

Two OOC things:

1) Would it be fine with you gentlemen if I made Denmark an Errikan Colony just to give me some ICly logical direct interest in this war?
OOC: I don't care.

2) Could someone gather together a list of those fighting on each side so that I can get some statistics for the same day (such as pop, government budget, etc.)?
OOC: I know I can't

OOC:
Ever going to start using my guys, Pudu?

OOC: I don't care.


OOC: I know I can't

Thank you. :rolleyes:

OOC:
Ever going to start using my guys, Pudu?
OOC: Once I actually start attacking things, sure. For now they're 'chillen at some airforce base.

There are "sides"?

For me, I either class them as friendly or hostile.

OOC: Once I actually start attacking things, sure. For now they're 'chillen at some airforce base.

Dephirian Paratroops:


Soldier 1: Duuudddeee!
Soldier 2: Hahahaha! Totally!
Soldier 3: What the hell is up with you two?!
Soldier 1: Dude! Look! It's like..a Warthog...but it's a car!!!
Soldier 3: Oh my god! You are flippen Drunk!
Soldier 2: No, not drunk! We just having some fun!

So, are the Pudites hostile?

(Yes, it sounds silly, but I'm confused)
Heh, Puditesol/Pudusol...

OOC:
The Pudites could be considered hostile if you wish them to be. I, for one, don't think so. Ah, WTH...I don't think anyone is hostile! I'm the all-round guy.

There are "sides"?

For me, I either class them as friendly or hostile.

That is a first person point of view, the point of view of someone fighting in the war. I am neutral, and thus require a third person point of view. Thus, there are "sides"

Meanwhile in Ackistan:

Assorted law enforcement agencies closed various roads leading to TWSP's border to civilian traffic to facilitate expedite the movement of Emperor Pudu's army through Ackistan.

As Pudu's army began to move, spectators lined the roads to watch the magnificent sight of so many soldiers. Some spectators watched somberly with as they watched the first foreign troops to ever set foot on Ackistan's soil pass by. Other spectators cheered the advancing army while others chanted "go home".

In Ackistan's capital city, 75,000 protesters gathered to denounce the government's decision to allow this army on Ackistan soil. Elsewhere, 60,000 citizens gathered in support of the decision, waving various signs denouncing the GASN alliance.

Throughout the nation, the military was preparing to defend their nation should it come under attack.

Map (http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6349/untitled02ts8.png) as of right before the Pudite Invasion.