The NSG election day thread! - Page 5
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 07:24
But everybody knows Reploid Seductions the Bastard NS Mod from Hell is my puppet =p Besides, there was a massive victory dance in the Reppy household tonight already. (And by massive, I mean "massively idiotic", as I can't dance worth beans.)
... Also, please forgive any typos I make, since I busted out the alcohol as soon as I got home from classes tonight. And while I can do shots of whiskey or other hard liquor fine, for some reason cider kicks my ass.Are you SERIOUS?
Dude, no, just no.
...Seriously?
Did yo-
I'm just going to leave it hanging at, "SERIOUSLY?"
:p
It's like a third of a percent.
But with 99%+ reporting, that's good enough.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
05-11-2008, 07:27
But everybody knows Reploid Seductions the Bastard NS Mod from Hell is my puppet =p Besides, there was a massive victory dance in the Reppy household tonight already. (And by massive, I mean "massively idiotic", as I can't dance worth beans.)
... Also, please forgive any typos I make, since I busted out the alcohol as soon as I got home from classes tonight. And while I can do shots of whiskey or other hard liquor fine, for some reason cider kicks my ass.
Switch to shots, right now.
Why? Put your nose right in the glass and sniff. Try to ignore the "drink me!" smell of alcohol. Apart from that, the smell is ... rotten apples, right?
That's what you're going to smell of tomorrow.
The "scotch" smell, worn-out leather and caramel, is far preferable.
The real map of this election:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/PIcaRDMPC/usaobammer.png
(Yes, yes, I know the flag is over heavy on the stars. It was the best I could do.)
But with 99%+ reporting, that's good enough.
It's really close. Who knows how many votes they have left to count?
BunnySaurus Bugsii
05-11-2008, 07:31
Fergi America;14170496']LOL no. I'm not dancing in the street because I'm too lazy! :) I'd have to get out of my chair AND go downstairs to do that--much easier to type on here! Plus, it wouldn't be too fun to be the ONLY one out there...
Hah. You're just chicken.
You shouldn't be. Sure they might shoot at you, but they're probably too drunk to shoot straight ...
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 07:32
But everybody knows Reploid Seductions the Bastard NS Mod from Hell is my puppet =p Besides, there was a massive victory dance in the Reppy household tonight already. (And by massive, I mean "massively idiotic", as I can't dance worth beans.)
... Also, please forgive any typos I make, since I busted out the alcohol as soon as I got home from classes tonight. And while I can do shots of whiskey or other hard liquor fine, for some reason cider kicks my ass.
Cheers buddy.
The train proposal is doing okay in California as well. Hurray trains.
The train proposal is doing okay in California as well. Hurray trains.
Link?
Also, what about Prop. 2?
Anyone know about the other ballot amendments in Colorado? The ones not on CNN's list.
Sacramento is going to vote for it. That's a midwest city more than the 'hippy North' that Santa Cruz and San Francisco is.
The lead is still staying about the same in terms of votes.
I'm getting worried about MO. The lead is still big enough I'm not sure if the remaining city votes are gonna be enough at this point. I've was only thinking they have about 10K left in them.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
05-11-2008, 07:37
The real map of this election:
*snip pic*
(Yes, yes, I know the flag is over heavy on the stars. It was the best I could do.)
Alaska: first State to be kicked out of the Union.
(by the newly elected President Kyronea, who seems to have a problem with Hawaii, too. Oh, that's right, it's a Navy thing. Don't mention Hawaii.)
Link?
Also, what about Prop. 2?
http://www.sfgate.com/campaign2008/
Prop 2 seems to be winning big.
Obama is currently winning the popular vote by 5%. That's better than the 3% he was winning an hour ago.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 07:43
Anyone know about the other ballot amendments in Colorado? The ones not on CNN's list.
Try CBS
Alaska: first State to be kicked out of the Union.
(by the newly elected President Kyronea, who seems to have a problem with Hawaii, too. Oh, that's right, it's a Navy thing. Don't mention Hawaii.)
http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/uploads/ipbfree.com/generalitemafia/emo-lolani.gif
Oh, hush. Best map I could find on short notice.
http://www.sfgate.com/campaign2008/
Prop 2 seems to be winning big.
Thank you very much.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Repblicans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I believe something awesome has happened.
Sigged!
i still dont get Obamas appeal to everyone, i mean he doesnt make sense:confused::mad:
well, socialisim is the opposit of capitalisim, which is the foundation of america
Obvious troll is obvious...
Huh. I graduated high school with about a 4.4 GPA and a 5 on my AP US History exam
*Is jealous*...I only got a 4. :(
Congratulations to Barack Obama...his message motivated me to help with his campaign, and it's great to see things work out as they have!
Ardchoille
05-11-2008, 07:46
I just heard NPR interviewing someone, asking, "Do you think X will influence President Obama?"
President Obama. Sounded so natural. President. Obama.
I guess, technically, they should say "President-elect Obama", but it's nice of them to help listeners get used to it.
Fleckenstein
05-11-2008, 07:47
If things finish as they stand, I will be totally right. Schweet. :p
Try CBS
Unfortunately they only list the same two initiatives. (And sadly, banning affirmative action seems to be winning. :( )
But Markey DID beat out Musgrave! I don't believe it!
If things finish as they stand, I will be totally right. Schweet. :p
Oh, you'll be wrong by at least 1 and as much as 12.
Punk.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 07:50
Unfortunately they only list the same two initiatives. (And sadly, banning affirmative action seems to be winning. :( )
But Markey DID beat out Musgrave! I don't believe it!
I can't find anything about MA prop 3, and no votes reported for MA prop 2. Bastards.
Unfortunately they only list the same two initiatives. (And sadly, banning affirmative action seems to be winning. :( )
In Colorado? I have it 51-49 for No.
Oh, you'll be wrong by at least 1 and as much as 12.
Punk.
You're not going to be right either, you know.
Soheran: Er, yes. I seem to keep misreading these. I don't know why.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
05-11-2008, 07:53
If things finish as they stand, I will be totally right. Schweet. :p
Play to your strengths, then.
Now's the time to sign up as a cub reporter for FOX. Four years from now, YOU get to decide who is President!
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 07:54
I think Franken is losing his race. :(
That's a shame if it holds.
I think Franken is losing his race. :(
That's a shame if it holds.
He's been gaining on Coleman; Coleman's lead right now (according to CNN) is in the hundreds of votes.
Of course, there are 11% of precincts still to report.
Fleckenstein
05-11-2008, 07:58
Oh, you'll be wrong by at least 1 and as much as 12.
Punk.
He's not winning the one EV. Nuh uh. My reputation depends on it! ;)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-11-2008, 08:08
Jocabia, check out MO. Obama's trailing by only 650 votes now. Holy crap it changed so much in the last hour, insane.
edit: 550 now
You're not going to be right either, you know.
Soheran: Er, yes. I seem to keep misreading these. I don't know why.
Yeah, but I was betting so it made sense to go a little conservative, duh?
I'll point out that I had all of the currently waiting states as being the ones that would be super close.
And MO is now down to around 550 votes. Holy crap, I didn't expect it to close so quickly. I was starting to wonder.
Jocabia, check out MO. Obama's trailing by only 650 votes now. Holy crap it changed so much in the last hour, insane.
I'll admit, I was starting to lose faith in it. Now I really do think it's going to go Obama. Before I was just hoping.
He's been gaining on Coleman; Coleman's lead right now (according to CNN) is in the hundreds of votes.
Of course, there are 11% of precincts still to report.
Nah, you're done. Sorry, dude.
EDIT: It looks like Fonzica will win the early bids.
Blouman Empire
05-11-2008, 08:12
One downside of electing a young President has just come to my attention.
Obama's daughters. Poor kids ... they were privileged already, but it just got a whole lot worse. Now they're undeniably privileged. Paris Hiltons both.
What???
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 08:12
Jocabia, check out MO. Obama's trailing by only 650 votes now. Holy crap it changed so much in the last hour, insane.
edit: 550 now
By my math (and please, correct me if I'm wrong), if Obama wins NC and MO, he will have a landslide victory (375+)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-11-2008, 08:15
I'll admit, I was starting to lose faith in it. Now I really do think it's going to go Obama. Before I was just hoping.
Bah, McCain ahead by 2000 again.
Sdaeriji
05-11-2008, 08:15
I can't find anything about MA prop 3, and no votes reported for MA prop 2. Bastards.
Prop 2 and 3 both passed, and 1 failed. So, going in numerical order, Massachusetts voted to not repeal income tax, to decriminalize marijuana, and to ban greyhound racing.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-11-2008, 08:17
CNN has been showing NC with "100% reporting" forever now. Is it possible they're not calling it because it's so close they have to actually go and count the absentee ballots? (those are only counted if it is close, right? At least in some states?)
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 08:17
Prop 2 and 3 both passed, and 1 failed. So, going in numerical order, Massachusetts voted to not repeal income tax, to decriminalize marijuana, and to ban greyhound racing.
Excellent, Excellent, and...well...I'm still undecided.
Can I grab a link?
Bah, McCain ahead by 2000 again.
Check again.
It's going to accordian like that a bit, but the cities still have enough left in them now that it closed. It's Obama's.
EDIT: Eh. I think I'm wrong. I don't know where else he can get votes from. It'll definitely be a recount it looks like. It's within a few hundred at this point. Maybe absentee ballots will deliver. I don't know how those will lean.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 08:20
So far, I've missed Georgia. Everything else on my risk chart is "too close to call."
I still think Montana, Indiana, and North Carolina will all edge into the Obama bracket with the final count.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-11-2008, 08:20
Check again.
I just saw. They're just screwing with me now.
Intangelon
05-11-2008, 08:22
McCain's concession speech reminded me that before the RNC go a hold of him and selected Palin, I could have voted for THAT McCain. Gracious, devoted to his country, and urging cooperation. THAT is a "real American".
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 08:22
So far, I've missed Georgia. Everything else on my risk chart is "too close to call."
I still think Montana, Indiana, and North Carolina will all edge into the Obama bracket with the final count.
Wait, I see 538 has called Indiana. In my favor. Boooya! Who else only missed one state so far?
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 08:22
CNN has been showing NC with "100% reporting" forever now. Is it possible they're not calling it because it's so close they have to actually go and count the absentee ballots? (those are only counted if it is close, right? At least in some states?)
They still haven't called it for NC? Wow, our first (and probably only) time as a battleground state and we screwed it up. It's pointless to call it now....
Sdaeriji
05-11-2008, 08:25
Excellent, Excellent, and...well...I'm still undecided.
Can I grab a link?
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/feature.html
All the results for every question on our ballots today.
Wait, I see 538 has called Indiana. In my favor. Boooya! Who else only missed one state so far?
Me. Same state. And I said I figured IN was the most likely state for me to be wrong on.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 08:26
They still haven't called it for NC? Wow, our first (and probably only) time as a battleground state and we screwed it up. It's pointless to call it now....
Not only. Did you see the age breakdown? NC will be considered a light blue state for the near future. Carolina blue, in fact. :-P
EDIT: I saw one network call NC for Obama. Forget which. Right now, NC is favoring Obama.
Nah, you're done. Sorry, dude.
EDIT: It looks like Fonzica will win the early bids.
I know! That's freaky. If Obama wins North Carolina, Indiana, and Missouri, with Montana going to McCain, my prediction will be correct.
As it stands, Obama is ahead by 12000 votes in North Carolina, with 100% precincts reported, 23000 in Indiana, with 99% precincts reported, down by less than 400 in Missouri, with 99% precincts reported, and down by 8000 in Montana, with 78% precincts reported.
I'm all giddy with excitement now.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 08:29
Me. Same state. And I said I figured IN was the most likely state for me to be wrong on.
Oh, don't read me wrong! I got Indiana right. I got Georgia wrong. Huge early voting and high black population led me on like a Puritan-upbrung freshman with two shots of vodka in her system and a plastered roommate.
Me. Same state. And I said I figured IN was the most likely state for me to be wrong on.
And I made my prediction THREE weeks before you did. Ha.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-11-2008, 08:30
Wait, I see 538 has called Indiana. In my favor. Boooya!
Finally, it's been sitting on CNN.com, having been won, forever.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 08:30
Oh, don't read me wrong! I got Indiana right. I got Georgia wrong. Huge early voting and high black population led me on like a Puritan-upbrung freshman with two shots of vodka in her system and a plastered roommate.
that may just be the best metaphore I've ever seen on here.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 08:33
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/feature.html
All the results for every question on our ballots today.
spectacular. Thanks muchly. CBS still reads 0 votes reported for prop 2, and doesn't even list prop 3.
Out of curiosity, how did you vote on them?
I would also like to point out that my popular vote margin was predicted at 6%. I just need a little swing. Come on, President Obama, you can do it.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 08:33
The worst part for me - prediction-wise - is that if Missouri's final count is for Obama, I've called one more state wrong, but my points total will come much closer.
I shake my fist at thee, Georgia!
Sdaeriji
05-11-2008, 08:34
spectacular. Thanks muchly. CBS still reads 0 votes reported for prop 2, and doesn't even list prop 3.
Out of curiosity, how did you vote on them?
It appears I went with the winner in every single vote this year. :)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-11-2008, 08:34
8:30am, I really should go to bed. Obama won and Indiana went blue, that's good enough for me.
Edit: But California better not have passed that frigging proposition when I wake up.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 08:35
It appears I went with the winner in every single vote this year. :)
nice work. I didn't vote on prop 3...I was very swayed by the animal rights argument, but couldn't bring myself to vote against a source of income for the state with my current situation.
8:30am, I really should go to bed. Obama won and Indiana went blue, that's good enough for me.
Edit: But California better not have passed that frigging proposition when I wake up.
Yeah, me too.
I'm really sick, too. I should have gone to sleep hours ago.
Yeah, but I was betting so it made sense to go a little conservative, duh?
It does?
It does?
You never heard of hedging your bets?
You never heard of hedging your bets?
Oh, that concept.
Sorry...I've never actually been involved in gambling. At all.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 09:38
Hang on a white minute. 538 says there's something funny about the Georgia results. Such as early voting not being included for some reason.
Which would mean...
... I might get this sucker right after all! ;-P
BunnySaurus Bugsii
05-11-2008, 09:41
What???
New thread.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
05-11-2008, 09:42
Hang on a white minute.
That sounds kinda racist to me.
The Brevious
05-11-2008, 09:43
8:30am, I really should go to bed. Obama won and Indiana went blue, that's good enough for me.
Edit: But California better not have passed that frigging proposition when I wake up.Yeah yeah .... bottom line, this mean you're coming back stateside again, perhaps a tour?
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 09:55
That sounds kinda racist to me.
Precisely the point. Black turnout was enormous in the early voting in GA - + 10% from the normal figures.
And it's true that in Georgia, we didn't see the early Obama surge in the returns that we did in, say, Texas, another traditionally red state with heavy early voting this season. I'm probably still wrong in my Georgia pre-election prediction, but I am filled with renewed optimism.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 10:08
OK, here (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iPFo_UMwjfq14RFUZ8HhT3YQWQ3QD948L0200) is the AP article on Georgia not having counted a large number of early votes yet.
Probably not quite enough to swing it for Obama, but it will be very narrow even if I'm still wrong.
Free Soviets
05-11-2008, 10:09
you guys hold down the fort here, i'm headed downtown
ok, what did i miss?
ok, what did i miss?
A bunch of stuff...
...mostly just waiting on close races, and the west coast ballot initiatives.
Nothing much new. North Carolina and Indiana will go to Obama while Missouri will go to McCain.
Quintessence of Dust
05-11-2008, 10:38
congrats to obama supporters, i hop he lives up ti everyone's expectations.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
05-11-2008, 11:31
Precisely the point. Black turnout was enormous in the early voting in GA - + 10% from the normal figures.
All the rest of your post went over my head
But you're saying the black vote turned out, but not just for Obama?
Callisdrun
05-11-2008, 12:48
I just heard NPR interviewing someone, asking, "Do you think X will influence President Obama?"
President Obama. Sounded so natural. President. Obama.
I guess, technically, they should say "President-elect Obama", but it's nice of them to help listeners get used to it.
I'm so very happy. It's unbelievable. It's been like almost 7 hours since I knew that Obama was the next president, and I'm still so damn happy. Wow.
A couple of friends and I went through like, 30 beers when she invited me over to their house to celebrate.
Callisdrun
05-11-2008, 12:51
The real map of this election:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/PIcaRDMPC/usaobammer.png
(Yes, yes, I know the flag is over heavy on the stars. It was the best I could do.)
Yes.
I thought McCain's concession speech was a good reminder that we're all one country, no matter who we voted for.
Callisdrun
05-11-2008, 13:06
Yeah, I agree.
Especially since he seemed pretty angry at the supporters who were booing and generally being unreasonable towards Obama.
The Senate isn't all that big a place. Chances are that though they disagree, in the senate, McCain and Obama get along just fine.
I still remember the video where McCain is at a town hall rally, and his supporters are saying terrible things about Obama, and the man looks just horrified.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 13:10
Omama omama omama omama omama!!!! Woohooooooo!!! :d
Vampire Knight Zero
05-11-2008, 13:11
Yays! :D
Let it be noted that Obama's popular vote lead has extended to 6%.
Let it be noted that Obama's popular vote lead has extended to 6%.
Yup. That's Jocabian territory. Someone here won a bet. Where's NA at?
Yup. That's Jocabian territory. Someone here won a bet. Where's NA at?
Keep in mind that if Obama magically gets Missouri, along with getting Indiana and North Carolina as, then my prediction of 375 electoral votes for Obama wins.
Keep in mind that if Obama magically gets Missouri, along with getting Indiana and North Carolina as, then my prediction of 375 electoral votes for Obama wins.
I still won a bet. I admit I was a bit conservative, but I still was on the high end at the time. I'll give it to you. In the early predictions, you were the highest.
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 17:44
And I was completely wrong. And I've never been happier to be so.
(OK, nor completely wrong - I did call it FOR Obama).
I'm a lot more hopeful for the US today, than I have been in quite some time.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 17:44
I'm still bitterly disappointed in Montana, and FFS, Georgia! Have you still got a few hundred thousand early votes to count?
Keep in mind that if Obama magically gets Missouri, along with getting Indiana and North Carolina as, then my prediction of 375 electoral votes for Obama wins.
he got Indiana and probably North Carolina.
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 17:50
Georgia was close. Close-ish. That's huge.
My thouhts have turned already to whether or not the map has changed... or if we're just seeing the cult of personality made manifest.
Obama is obviously HUGELY popular. But - is the Democratic swing towards conservatism in the last two cycles paying dividends? Is the general US population rebelling against the harder line of the rightwing? Is this election a referendum on Bush? Or is this OBama-nation?
Has the complexion changed? Will Georgia be in play in the next cycle? Are we seeing the dawn of the next paradigm?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-11-2008, 17:50
My God, CNN finally called Indiana. I was getting all apprehensive.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 18:08
Georgia was close. Close-ish. That's huge.
My thouhts have turned already to whether or not the map has changed... or if we're just seeing the cult of personality made manifest.
Obama is obviously HUGELY popular. But - is the Democratic swing towards conservatism in the last two cycles paying dividends? Is the general US population rebelling against the harder line of the rightwing? Is this election a referendum on Bush? Or is this OBama-nation?
Has the complexion changed? Will Georgia be in play in the next cycle? Are we seeing the dawn of the next paradigm?
Montana was close-ish too. I think that's also a pretty big sign.
Colorado, North Carolina, and Virginia, at least, will remain in play for the foreseeable near future on the national level. The demographic shifts in those states, and state/local shifts, trend liberal. Personally, I will say that while North Carolina is by no means an unusually liberal state on the whole, it is a pretty progressive state that takes education and changing for the future seriously.
Because it will be Obama sitting on the incumbent advantage, I think Georgia will be in play, unless he manages to drop the ball. In 2016? Not as sure.
Free Soviets
05-11-2008, 18:11
I'm still bitterly disappointed in Montana, and FFS, Georgia! Have you still got a few hundred thousand early votes to count?
yep, they called georgia without counting the early votes. senate is going runoff and the pres should be closer, at least. (though seriously, wtf?! was it all just a ploy to keep black people from having their votes count?)
i am not bitterly disappointed in mt. in fact, if you had told me just 5 years ago that an african american man with an islamic sounding name would nearly take the state, i'd have laughed in your face.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 18:12
They still haven't called North Carolina?
Jeez...now they're just milking it...
Vampire Knight Zero
05-11-2008, 18:14
If the results are already conclusive, why bother counting any other votes? :p
(I know, I know, I'm being silly.)
Free Soviets
05-11-2008, 18:19
My thouhts have turned already to whether or not the map has changed... or if we're just seeing the cult of personality made manifest
a lot of it is demography, as evidenced by how well 538's regression looks to have done on its own. the country is getting less white, and more young, urban, and ethnically diverse. which is why the republicans' plan for a 'permanent majority' (remember that? ha!) that relied on alienating all three of those characteristics was fucking stupid.
Tmutarakhan
05-11-2008, 19:50
I still won a bet. I admit I was a bit conservative, but I still was on the high end at the time. I'll give it to you. In the early predictions, you were the highest.
No, I was at 387. It looks like 376 will be the final tally (if Obama pulls out both Missouri and Omaha) but Fonzica could be spot on (he has to root for McCain in Omaha!)
Obama's lead in the popular vote has increased to 7%.
The Brevious
06-11-2008, 07:59
My God, CNN finally called Indiana. I was getting all apprehensive.Sounds like *somebody* could use a little rub-down ...
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/cool/cool29.gif
Sarkhaan
06-11-2008, 08:01
Sounds like *somebody* could use a little rub-down ...
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/cool/cool29.gif
you are loving that smiley today, aren't you?
The Brevious
06-11-2008, 08:08
you are loving that smiley today, aren't you?If by that you mean that smiley means loving, then yes, oh yes.
Sarkhaan
06-11-2008, 08:09
If by that you mean that smiley means loving, then yes, oh yes.
Bown chicka wow indeed.
The Brevious
06-11-2008, 08:13
Bown chicka wow indeed.
She knows she's got a few appointments with me. *nods emphatically*
Sarkhaan
07-11-2008, 00:44
A bit of new news...North Carolina has officially been called for Obama by the AP. According to them, there are not enough outstanding provisional ballots to close the gap. Only Missouri remains.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/06/obama-wins-north-carolina_n_141803.html
Tmutarakhan
07-11-2008, 01:06
Go Missouri! I know McCain is ahead there, but I'm still rooting for another spot of blue!
Free Soviets
07-11-2008, 01:15
Only Missouri remains.
ne-02 too, and it's damn fucking close
Colorado will stay in play because it's very much an independent state more so than a red state or a blue state. It's also got its own particular brand of politics.
Speaking of politics, I saw this weird news ticker title on Keith Olberman's show while my dad was watching it...Republicannibalism. Someone explain that to me please?
Braaainsss
07-11-2008, 03:22
Speaking of politics, I saw this weird news ticker title on Keith Olberman's show while my dad was watching it...Republicannibalism. Someone explain that to me please?
I imagine it refers to how the Republicans are turning on each other Lord of the Flies style. Senior McCain aides are leaking bad things about Palin to the press, Randy Scheunemann backstabbed the McCain campaign to help Palin and got shut out as a result, etc.
Free Soviets
07-11-2008, 23:42
ne-02 too, and it's damn fucking close
correction:
ne-02 goes obama (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2835&u_sid=10481441)
dude...