NationStates Jolt Archive

Anyone got an idea for turnout figures yet?

MSNBC: Obama leading in IN VA NC and FL

5):mad: no.. no calm down i cant compeat with donkeys, there just too stubborn
Well, he motherfuckin haw.
*cheers*
*drinks*
It's looking very bad for gay rights on all fronts... though no results from CA yet (obviously, because polls haven't yet closed there.)

Admittedly, the only one in contest was FL's amendment, because of the 60% requirement, but still.

Edit: And it's looking very good for reproductive choice in SD.

Local Ballot Measures (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/) for those interested.

I think I might actually be more interested in CA's ballot measure than those of my own state...if CA can pass theirs, I see similar attempts in both CT and MA, my two home states.

McCain needs the carolinas and florida if he wants to win, floridas a close call

VA for Obama

Virginia called for Obama.

I think I might actually be more interested in CA's ballot measure than those of my own state...if CA can pass theirs, I see similar attempts in both CT and MA, my two home states.

Do you know how fares CT's constitutional convention thing? It's not on CNN's ballot measures page.

I believe we early concluded that it was 3-d trickery. Anderson Cooper and the others cannot see the Holopundit. At least they said earlier, with the Capital.

Also, I just noticed one of the presenters moved their hand in front of the hologram of Congress and, even though it should have been behind his hand, his hand was obscured. That means it's not on the desk.

Indiana.
Hm.
If Obama is leading, why does McCain have more votes? o_0

Obama takes the lead in IN!

COME ON INDIANA!!

Why is my county the only county in the entire state with no results? Lame. Ass.

Not according to CNN, which updated very recently: 50-49 McCain.

Edit: Nevermind.

I'm reading CNN. Check again.

its the same as 2000, Obamas predicted to get more states

Do you know how fares CT's constitutional convention thing? It's not on CNN's ballot measures page.
You know, I actually haven't been following them...I was slightly preoccupied with the MA Prop 1. I'll see what I can find.

edit: do you know what it was about?

CNN calls the Election for Barack Obama.

CNN has called the election for Barack Obama.

That's all folks.

McCain needs the carolinas and florida if he wants to win, floridas a close call

Even if he gets them, he still loses.

CNN just called it. Obama will win.

CNN projects an Obama win! It's official!

297 Obama.

Well, it was obvious as early as 9:35, but NBC just called the election for Obama.

Called.. Obama:fluffle:

Congrats President Obama

NBC News just called it -- Obama is projected to be the next President. The rally crowd in Grant Park, Chicago is going nuts.

*almost cries*

President Elect Barack Obama. CNN and Fox calling it.

Obama is the next President!

Now taking bets on how long it will take before some yahoo redneck hick takes a potshot at Obama

Thats 4am here and time for me to go to work, yes work not bed.

Thankyou America for restoring my faith in you.

Congratulations, President-elect Obama.

CNN along with all over channels is GOD and when they say Obama has won the election then that is what it is.

Look I know some know exactly what the outcome will be in some states but how can they know for the tighter states straight after the polls have closed with not many votes counted?

Yes I know about exit polls and other polling ways but they aren't always accurate.

Not that it matters most people could have called this election 18 months ago but yeah.

I can't figure out where they are getting this 297 figure from. He was at 207, then called Virginia (13) and California (55). That should give him 275. Where's these other 13 points?

edit: do you know what it was about?

The anti-gay marriage people were pushing it to reverse CT's court decision. That's all I know about it.

NBC News just called it -- Obama is projected to be the next President. The rally crowd in Grant Park, Chicago is going nuts.

Also Times Square

Now taking bets on how long it will take before some yahoo redneck hick takes a potshot at Obama

within 1 year :(

NBC and AP calling it for Obama!

its the same as 2000, Obamas predicted to get more states

Wow. It must've taken you weeks to cultivate that much denial.

Cerean;14169876']Also Times Square

Also, the apartment below mine.

Where's these other 13 points?

Washington and Oregon.

Awesome, I was got that announcement from Jon Stewart-couldn't be happier about that.

Now taking bets on how long it will take before some yahoo redneck hick takes a potshot at ObamaZero. FBI is already all over Obama, probably.

Thats 4am here and time for me to go to work, yes work not bed.

Thankyou America for restoring my faith in you.Believe it or not, the American people do sometimes listen to the opinion of the world.

How about that 50 state strategy that some here (you know who you are) said would be a foolish endeavor? As a person of mixed race and origin I can happily say that I am so proud of what the American people have done. God bless President Obama and this great country.

And now for the Prop. 8 long haul.

I can't figure out where they are getting this 297 figure from. He was at 207, then called Virginia (13) and California (55). That should give him 275. Where's these other 13 points?
Oregon and Washington probably.

I decided to vote for Obama. I'll give the guy a chance and I hope he makes it work.

He certainly has a lot riding on him.

Also, the apartment below mine.

And the neighborhood around me.

And my roommate is pissed :)

I know, I know...no gloating...but I live with the bastard.

It's over. Well, now I can go to bed. Good night to all.

Officially retracting a statement I made many years ago, before the NSG forum ever came in to being. In all places, it was a forum about the Nintendo 64 game Perfect Dark, in which I skeptically claimed that the US will not have a black President by 2030, let alone 2009.

Just after 11pm EST:

According to CNN and Yahoo!, Obama's the next president of the United States.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/indepth/us_elections/s/reuters/081105/n_top_news/cnews_us_usa_election1_6

I can hear car horns over two miles of ocean in San Francisco

Epic. Special to be alive during such a time!

They've called it here. Congratulations, folks!

Officially retracting a statement I made many years ago, before the NSG forum ever came in to being. In all places, it was a forum about the Nintendo 64 game Perfect Dark, in which I skeptically claimed that the US will not have a black President by 2030, let alone 2009.

I wouldn't have predicted it four years ago either. But this is the good kind of surprise. :)

Wow. Just wow. My computer battery is dying, so I really need to go to bed.

Ah, faith, sometimes it's great just to have held on to faith throughout.

Hey, that's pretty cool. People are driving around Fargo, North Dakota and honking their horns. People shooting off fireworks. Damn...like a mini fourth of july.

I wouldn't have predicted it four years ago either. But this is the good kind of surprise. :)

Quite

What's the pop. of chicago? 'Cause that crowd is fucking huge.

Zero. FBI is already all over Obama,

Not FBI. Secret Service.

They've called it here. Congratulations, folks!
NHK hasn't said yet, but I'm sure it will only be a matter of time.

Correction, NHK is also reporting an Obama win in Japan.

You Americans are amazing.

I dips me lid to ya.

My campus just exploded. Hehe.

I wouldn't have predicted it four years ago either. But this is the good kind of surprise. :)

I was off by four years. I said we'd have a black or female President after the 2000 debacle.

Congratulations to those of you who are citizens of the US...thank you for an amazing voter turnout, and thank you for making the choice the rest of the world has been holding our breath hoping you'd make.

Senate is at 54 dems, 40 republicans (MSNBC)
House is at 260 dems, 175 republicans (also MSNBC)

Not FBI. Secret Service.Oh, right. Forgot that they were separate branches. Well, I know he has a personal counter-sniper team. :D

I can hear car horns over two miles of ocean in San Francisco

You should get over there. It'll probably be quite a party.

2 minutes to McCain's address

Congratulations to those of you who are citizens of the US...thank you for an amazing voter turnout, and thank you for making the choice the rest of the world has been holding our breath hoping you'd make.It's a miracle.
We can do something right without epically fucking it up!
Go America! :D

You Americans are amazing.

I dips me lid to ya.

They certainly get into it.

Righto you guys, prove us right. Please, for the love of god, get back to being the bloody respectable country you should be. Ye deserve it, and you elected the best bloke for the job. Top work.

Senate is at 54 dems, 40 republicans (MSNBC)
House is at 260 dems, 175 republicans (also MSNBC)

So we went from a Republican Executive and Legislative controlled government where everyone and everything got fucked.

We're now going to a Democrat Executive and Legislative controlled government....hmmm nothing bad can happen here....

Officially retracting a statement I made many years ago, before the NSG forum ever came in to being. In all places, it was a forum about the Nintendo 64 game Perfect Dark, in which I skeptically claimed that the US will not have a black President by 2030, let alone 2009.

Want to take a punt on when the first female President will take office?

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:)

Lol FOX just called Obama xD

My (red) neighborhood is covered in tomblike silence.

Oh well sucks to be them! :p

Also, lol at the chants of "Yes we did".

Clever buggers.

My campus just exploded. Hehe.

As did mine. I can hear it from a good distance away.

There's only two counties left in NC that isn't reporting.

Mecklenburg County (Charlotte) went to Obama
Wake County (Raleigh) went to Obama
So did Forstyh County, however McCain has a 10,331 vote lead over Obama.

Buncombe County (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/Buncombe/7950/11946/en/summary.html) (my old home town) has reported absolutely nothing, for no obvious reason. It's possible that their 135,000 registered voters could deliver an extra 10-15K votes to Obama.

T'would be nice.

want to take a punt on when the first female president will take office?2016.

McCain on CNN now (and probably most networks)

We're now going to a Democrat Executive and Legislative controlled government....hmmm nothing bad can happen here....

Indeed. Without the Republicans fucking things up, we're in good shape.

Fergi America;14169978']My (red) neighborhood is covered in tomblike silence.

And you're not dancing in the street ... because someone might shoot you?

McCain concedes :D

NPR just called Colorado for Obama.

I told myself I wouldn't be too emotional, but I'm sitting here with tears running down my cheeks. Congratulations to PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA!

Wow...McCain is taking the defeat well, but his followers are still being dicks.

Aww, I already feel sad for McCain. =( I'm a sucker like that. <<

Indeed. Without the Republicans fucking things up, we're in good shape.

*facepalm*

Also, lol at the chants of "Yes we did".

Clever buggers.Very. :D
I am now content with life for the moment.

Well Obama, not my candidate sure, but I am amazed that he has been elected. I am cautiously optimistic as to where he'll lead the country. I'm proud we have elected an African American to office, and I hope we can end the culture wars now.

McCain's speech is pretty gracious. Well done.

Hey I just thought of something: You know that kid that got Palin's daughter knocked up?

I wonder if he is going to be dropped like a hot potatoe or they really are going to force him to get married to her.

2016.

Two terms of Obama ... then Condy Rice for the Republicans ?

Yep, I'm being a party-pooper!:p

McCain's speech is pretty gracious. Well done.

Agreed, now let's see if his followers can follow his example.

Hey I just thought of something: You know that kid that got Palin's daughter knocked up?

I wonder if he is going to be dropped like a hot potatoe or they really are going to force him to get married to her.

They're probably going to drop him like a hot potato.

McCain's graceful concession raises my respect for the man immensely. However, if Palin speaks, that respect may reverse.

McCain concedes :DOf course. He's honorable like that. Not like some of the fucking idiots in his party.

Aww, I already feel sad for McCain. =( I'm a sucker like that. <<He can still be a senator, and he can retire whenever he likes. Nothing wrong with bowing out when it's clear that he lost.

*facepalm*...Seriously. The problems don't magically go away. :(
But I was hoping for a little bit of sparkle. :D

McCain's speech is pretty gracious. Well done.

It is really good, even the crowd is there with him now. Really nice.

That has to be the best speech I've heard from McCain in, like, ever.

McCain's graceful concession raises my respect for the man immensely. However, if Palin speaks, that respect may reverse.McCain doesn't equal Palin. By all means, dislike her all you want, but now that the campaign is over... I'm sure they won't have much more to do with each other. :D

Aww, I already feel sad for McCain. =( I'm a sucker like that. <<

He gets no sympathy from me.

*facepalm*

Well, we are.

I hope we can end the culture wars now.

Take a look at the ballot measures this year. Not a chance.

Well handled, and well spoken. Managed to shift the audience's attitude pretty well. Though, he did say "Warshington".

...Seriously. The problems don't magically go away. :(
But I was hoping for a little bit of sparkle. :D

I just believe that if one branch is controlled by one party, then the other branch should be controlled by the opposition party.

Gridlock is a wonderful thing, it really is.

Hey I just thought of something: You know that kid that got Palin's daughter knocked up?

I wonder if he is going to be dropped like a hot potatoe or they really are going to force him to get married to her.

Were you one of the kids in that class that Dan Quayle taught spelling to ??

Palin will never get that high again, but she's not finished in politics. I say yes, shotgun marriage.

Did they just chant "we fucked up"?

Did they just chant "we fucked up"?

I think they chanted either that or 'John McCain'.

Hey I just thought of something: You know that kid that got Palin's daughter knocked up?

I wonder if he is going to be dropped like a hot potatoe or they really are going to force him to get married to her.

If you're assuming that the marriage truly would have been forced for political reasons, then you should also assume that it will still take place. Palin isn't dropping out of politics. Not by a longshot, I'm sad to say.

Oh the joys of conclusion and the bright hope for the future. I think I will sleep a little easier tonight :)

Well, we are.

When the Legislative branch was controlled by Republicans as well as the Executive branch, it was a disaster because there was nothing to stop the Republicans to pass all those spending bills and bills that took away or restricted our freedoms.

What makes you think the Democrats won't screw up in similar ways? Trust me, they will.

There's a reason I support gridlocks.

I think they chanted either that or 'John McCain'.

I think it started "we fucked up", which was overtaken by "John McCain". I'll rewind after the speech.

Were you one of the kids in that class that Dan Quayle taught spelling to ??

Palin will never get that high again, but she's not finished in politics. I say yes, shotgun marriage.

Actually I've been up for 37 hours straight because of my company's financial year end is this week and really don't care about spelling right now.

Good enough for you?

Did they just chant "we fucked up"?What?

I just believe that if one branch is controlled by one party, then the other branch should be controlled by the opposition party.

Gridlock is a wonderful thing, it really is.Yes, it is.

Dude, my play list just cycled to "Brand New Day" by Forty Foot Echo. It's so appropriate.

Getting McCain's speech now.

He's so not sounding sore. Almost ... relieved?

Congratulations to those of you who are citizens of the US...thank you for an amazing voter turnout, and thank you for making the choice the rest of the world has been holding our breath hoping you'd make.

It wasn't a very hard choice to make, at least not for me. But then again, the Republicans would literally have to resurrect like... Earl Warren or run someone who was basically a Democrat for me to vote for them. It's not that I'm a party line voter, it's just that I'm "librul" enough for it to be almost an impossibility of the Republicans running somebody who's more in line with my views than the Democratic Party candidate. I vote for the candidate who best represents what I believe in who I think can put that into policy. That just happens, in large scale elections, to always be a Democrat so far. And I actually really like Obama. He's not perfect, but nobody is. I think he's the right person at the right time. It will take a long time for the US to earn back all the respect that we've lost internationally, but I think this is a big step in doing that.

I'm really looking forward to January.

I literally did a little happy dance when I found out. I was actually really surprised by how fucking happy I am.

Of course, since I spent my adolescence under the Bush regime... the idea of having a president I can support, who won't cause anger every time I hear or read about him, in fact, who will do things that I approve of, is really... very new to me.

When the Legislative branch was controlled by Republicans as well as the Executive branch, it was a disaster because there was nothing to stop the Republicans to pass all those spending bills and bills that took away or restricted our freedoms.

Maybe that's because they were republicans.

McCain's concession speech is the most statesmanlike and, in my opinion, most honest and natural-sounding, thing he has said during this entire ordeal.

Maybe that's because they were republicans.

Yes because the Democrats are saints and they aren't corrupted at all....

Please Neo, I expect some people on this forum to be naive idiots, but not you.....

McCain's concession speech is the most statesmanlike and, in my opinion, most honest and natural-sounding, thing he has said during this entire ordeal.

of course, he's not trying to win anymore.

Maybe that's because they were republicans.I'm sorry, but I disagree.
Maybe it's because they're politicians?

He gets no sympathy from me.
I swear I would have even felt sorry for Hitler in his more humane moments. I can't help it. It passes, though. ;)

What makes you think the Democrats won't screw up in similar ways?

In short, because the Democrats aren't right-wing assholes.

Pro-gridlock might be a reasonable position to take for someone who is genuinely in the center of the political spectrum (or for someone with no coherent political views at all), but those of us who actually agree with one of the major parties on policy much more than the other have every reason to want one-party rule.

Jesus... McCain's campaign is one of the best speeches I've ever heard. If he'd spoken like that in the campaign, he would have won.

McCain's concession speech is the most statesmanlike and, in my opinion, most honest and natural-sounding, thing he has said during this entire ordeal.

Absolutely agree.

McCain's concession speech is the most statesmanlike and, in my opinion, most honest and natural-sounding, thing he has said during this entire ordeal.

Yeah, I agree.

Especially since he seemed pretty angry at the supporters who were booing and generally being unreasonable towards Obama.

Well, at least it wasn't a total loss for Palin. She got a crash course in true Washington-style politics.

Getting McCain's speech now.

He's so not sounding sore. Almost ... relieved?

"Now I don't have to sell out my beliefs for the next four years."

In short, because the Democrats aren't right-wing assholes.

Pro-gridlock might be a reasonable position to take for someone who is genuinely in the center of the political spectrum (or for someone with no coherent political views at all), but those of us who actually agree with one of the major parties on policy much more than the other have every reason to want one-party rule.Want, but not have. I would hope that America doesn't become a one party state.

In short, because the Democrats aren't right-wing assholes.

Pro-gridlock might be a reasonable position to take for someone who is genuinely in the center of the political spectrum (or for someone with no coherent political views at all), but those of us who actually agree with one of the major parties on policy much more than the other have every reason to want one-party rule.

One party rule isn't a good thing, the reason a gridlock is a wonderful thing because if one branch is controlled by one party, and another branch is controlled by the opposition party, then there's check and balance. So if one branch tries to make a dickish move, then the other branch will try to stop it and vice versa.

The reason the one party rule screwed us when the Republicans were in charge because of that lack of check and balance, and trust me just because Democrats now control both branch, doesn't mean they won't do the same thing.

Keep in mind, whether they're Rs or Ds, they're still politicians.

Actually I've been up for 37 hours straight because of my company's financial year end is this week and really don't care about spelling right now.

Good enough for you?

I'm only a spelling fascist when I really have no clue what I'm talking about.

But before there was George W. Bush to laugh at, there was Dan Quayle. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZihMFYGM_o)

I just rewound. I can't hear clearly, but they either chanted "You fucked up" or "We fucked up". This was then overtaken by "John McCain"

Watching McCain's concession speech.

The speech was predictable in its content, but that didn't make it any less real. McCain was gracious in defeat, particularly compared to his supporters.

Not that it matters anymore, but FL went to Obama.

I swear I would have even felt sorry for Hitler in his more humane moments.

The Great War did rather fuck with his head.

Nothing a decent welfare state couldn't have fixed, tho.

Hang on ... Godwin? Woohoo, we're partying tonight!

I would hope that America doesn't become a one party state.

Since the Democrats aren't going to ban the Republican Party however many houses of Congress they control....

So if one branch tries to make a dickish move, then the other branch will try to stop it and vice versa.

But what is a "dickish move"?

Generally, the Republicans make the "dickish moves", and the Democrats oppose them... so I want the Republicans to have as little opportunity to make their dickish moves as possible.

trust me

No.

Keep in mind, whether they're Rs or Ds, they're still politicians.

Effectively tautological, and thus meaningless.

Y'know what would have been awesome?

If McCain had silenced his booing supporters with a shotgun.

Not that it matters anymore, but FL went to Obama.

333 is an amazing number.

The tears of joy, they won't stop!

Since the Democrats aren't going to ban the Republican Party however many houses of Congress they control....



But what is a "dickish move"?

Generally, the Republicans make the "dickish moves", and the Democrats oppose them... so I want the Republicans to have as little opportunity to make their dickish moves as possible.



No.



Effectively tautological, and thus meaningless.

I'm tired, and I'm going to bed. Trust me, the one party rule in the next 2-4 years will bite us in the ass, and either Obama will lose to a Republican, or the Legislative branch will go back to R, the way it should be.

One party rule hurts us in the long run.

:eek: "The Man" is now black!!! :eek:

Y'know what would have been awesome?

If McCain had silenced his booing supporters with a shotgun.Obama supporters would have carried him off the stage like a hero. :D

I'm only a spelling fascist when I really have no clue what I'm talking about.

But before there was George W. Bush to laugh at, there was Dan Quayle. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZihMFYGM_o)

To be honest, I remember Jimmy Carter's presidency.

Want to take a punt on when the first female President will take office?

I expect Obama to win in 2012, but 2016 and 2020 will probably see a retrenchment. So, likely, no earlier than 2024.

according to CBS, if McCain wins every state that is still in swing (NV, MT, MO, IN, NC, AK), my bet of 333 electorals to Obama will win.

I never thought I'd say this, but GO MCCAIN!

In short, because the Democrats aren't right-wing assholes.

Pro-gridlock might be a reasonable position to take for someone who is genuinely in the center of the political spectrum (or for someone with no coherent political views at all), but those of us who actually agree with one of the major parties on policy much more than the other have every reason to want one-party rule.

But Wilgrove is a libertarian, remember? Giant gridlocked government fits his model of ebil.

You know, I've noticed something. Right now, my prediction looks pretty likely to be the real result.

I like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4

But Wilgrove is a libertarian, remember? Giant gridlocked government fits his model of ebil.

The less Government can do, the better.

:eek: "The Man" is now black!!! :eek:Obama's 2012 campaign slogan!
"Back, and black!" :D :) :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4

OMG! That is perfect! :D

*sends to his friends*

according to CBS, if McCain wins every state that is still in swing (NV, MT, MO, IN, NC, AK), my bet of 333 electorals to Obama will win.

Not happening. He'll get at least one of IN and NC, and very possibly both--NC is looking especially promising.

You know, I've noticed something. Right now, my prediction looks pretty likely to be the real result.

I like that.

Makes sense since your avatar is Brainy Smurf.

Now when you made that prediction, did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express the night before?

The less Government can do, the better.

In a gridlocked state, your government wont be able to roll back all the pork barrel programs libertarians oppose, either. Or fix civil liberties by repealing the patriot act, legalizing gay marriage, etc etc..

Obama's 2012 campaign slogan!
"Back, and black!" :D :) :p

"Once You Go Black, You Never Go Back!" :D

The numbers on CNN.com make it look very likely that NC and IN are going to go to Obama. Yay!

"Once You Go Black, You Never Go Back!" :DYes!
Oh, wow. I can imagine the rampant humor of the next election. Nothing like this one. :D

Not happening. He'll get at least one of IN and NC, and very possibly both--NC is looking especially promising.

I seriously don't want Obama just to win now. I want him to wreck house.

You know, I've noticed something. Right now, my prediction looks pretty likely to be the real result.

I like that.

I don't remember mine, but I think I wasn't even close.

night all. I can't keep the eyes open any longer. It was fun. See you all in 4 years when we do this again.

In a gridlocked state, your government wont be able to roll back all the pork barrel programs

Wouldn't happen anyways

Or fix civil liberties by repealing the patriot act

Patroit Act gave the Executive Branch expanded power, I doubt Obama will repeal it and give up all that juicy power.

legalizing gay marriage, etc etc..

Point for you.

I'm waiting for Obama's victory speech, then I'm going to bed. G'night all!

I seriously don't want Obama just to win now. I want him to wreck house.

You're in for a happy night, I think.

You know, I've noticed something. Right now, my prediction looks pretty likely to be the real result.

I like that.

I called 364 first bitch. :tongue:

Not happening. He'll get at least one of IN and NC, and very possibly both--NC is looking especially promising.

Why must you rain on my parade?


I'm actually very very shocked by NC. NV has been called by CNN, but not CBS. AK will go to McCain. MT will go blue, MO will go red.

IN...will be quite the race.

I called 364 first bitch. :tongue:

Yes, I know.

Not the point. :tongue:

McCain's graceful concession raises my respect for the man immensely. However, if Palin speaks, that respect may reverse.

McCain has always been a stand up guy. His hand was forced by those who were powering his campaign. It's sad that the supporters who were there were still booing Obama and behaving like spoiled babies. John McCain is a better man than his supporters are showing him to be.

Yes, I know.

Not the point. :tongue:

Actually, if he steals Montana, I'll happily be wrong.

Actually, if he steals Montana, I'll happily be wrong.

I want him to win, for the lulz. Seriously.

I haven't read most of the thread, because, well, I'm at an election party, but I just want to add to the likely deluge:

WE DID IT!!!! YES WE CAN!

Seriously. I'm almost in tears.

*sighs* With 10% reporting, prop 8 is leading in California 54% to 45%.
http://www.sfgate.com/election/races/2008/11/04/CA/c/i_proposition/i_1_8_same_sex_marriage_ban/g_ballot_issue/c/california.shtml?tsp=1

Obama to Win
Grave N Idle: 270 to 268
Jello B: 272 to 266
Caprecia: 273 to 265
Shofercia: 277 to 261
Dumb Ideologies: 280 to 258
Hotwife: 285 to 253
Zombie PotatoHeads: 286 to 252
Neo Art: 291 to 247
Vaarshire: 298 to 240
Dragontide: 302 to 236
Luizzo: 302 to 236
Fartsniffage: 302 to 236
Quintessence of Dust: 308 to 230
Daistallia 2104: 309 to 229
Knights of Liberty: 311 to 227
Deus Malum: 313 to 225
Eofaerwic: 313 to 225
Sarzonia: 315 to 223
Lunatic Goofbalss: 316 to 222
Whereyouthinkyougoing: 316 to 222
Arroza: 317 to 221
(2)Whereyouthinkyougoing: 319 to 219
DaWoad: 320 to 218
Aceopolis: 322 to 216
Maraque: 323 to 215
[NS]Cerean: 326 to 212
Sarkhaan: 333 to 205
Kiryu: 337 to 201
(2)Maineiacs: 338 to 200
Gravlen: 338 to 200
Forsakia: 340 to 198
New Manvir: 349 to 189
Copsia Scotia: 349 to 189
Free Soviets: 353 to 185
Jocabia: 354 to 184
Sumamba Buwhan: 357 to 181
Miroxia: 360 to 178
Fleckenstein: 364 to 174
Heikoku 2: 364 to 174
Ermarian: 364 to 174
Gavin: 364 to 174
Kyronea: 364 to 174
Fonzica: 375 to 163
South Lorenya: 380 to 158
Delator: 380 to 158
TJHairball: 382 to 156
Tmutarakhan: 387 to 151
Ferrous Oxide: 538 to 0

McCain to Win
Zilam: 272 to 266
MacEnthailand: 273 to 265
CanuckHeaven: 275 to 263
Maineiacs: 279 to 259

Tie:
Black Forrest Gump

two minutes to Obama

Actually, if he steals Montana, I'll happily be wrong.

It's not going to happen.

If any state disappears and ruins our map, it's Missouri. :(

Speech, union meeting, and then Election Party. :D

I'll point out that I made my predictions 3 weeks ago. So did Flecky. Most people were much more conservative back then. It's pretty clear that it's going to be at least as much as I went for and it's likely to match Flecky's vote.

Nicely done, Fleck.

Obama's EV count is 338.

Does anybody remember way back when, when Senator Chuck Schumer predicted that Obama would win [edit] with at least 300 EVs, and everybody yelled at him for saying something so ridiculous? :D Guess ol' Chuck knew something we didn't. (I like him; he used to be my senator.)

It's not going to happen.

If any state disappears and ruins our map, it's Missouri. :(

Nuh uh, he can trade Mizzou and Indiana and still be at 364. He's leading by a lot in Montana. If he keeps it, no one called 367.

Obama's EV count is 338.

Does anybody remember way back when, when Senator Chuck Schumer predicted that Obama would win by at least 300 EVs, and everybody yelled at him for saying something so ridiculous? :D Guess ol' Chuck knew something we didn't. (I like him; he used to be my senator.)

Win BY 300, or win WITH 300?

Man, seeing Obama there, I have no idea what I would have done had McCain won.

Also, I'll point out I added this to my prediction.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14091155&postcount=12

I'll point out that I made my predictions 3 weeks ago. So did Flecky. Most people were much more conservative back then. It's pretty clear that it's going to be at least as much as I went for and it's likely to match Flecky's vote.

Nicely done, Fleck.

By the by, Fleck had MO as Obama and IN as McCain. So, nyah.

Obama supporters cheer McCain. Wonderful sign

By the by, Fleck had MO as Obama and IN as McCain. So, nyah.

True, but my number was still correct. :p I honestly did not see that switch happening. I thought Mizzou was close, and Indiana solid red. Guess not.

True, but my number was still correct. :p I honestly did not see that switch happening. I thought Mizzou was close, and Indiana solid red. Guess not.

I still think MO is likely, frankly. I think we might end up at about 376 or so (because I still think one in NE is likely as well).

Watching McCain's concession speech.

The speech was predictable in its content, but that didn't make it any less real. McCain was gracious in defeat, particularly compared to his supporters.

I like that he paused and gestured his disapproval of the booing.

I still think MO is likely, frankly. I think we might end up at about 376 or so (because I still think one in NE is likely as well).

It is, but it's a bigger gap than IN or NC. I'd be truly surprised if he got the one from NE-2.

Obama is an outstanding orator. Perhaps the best in American History.

Obama is an outstanding orator. Perhaps the best in American History.
That move right there...pulling in Lincoln and the Republican party. Brilliant move.

Win BY 300, or win WITH 300?
With. Sorry.

his speech has suddenly taken on religious connotations...the preacher giving the testimony, with the congregation following.

Very interesting, on many levels.

Jesse Jackson's crying like a baby!

Oh lord I'm glad he stopped talking...we agreed to do shots every time he said "Yes we can"...I think I should throw up before I sleep. Ugh.

Goddamn, black people in the White House...


:D

Jesse Jackson's crying like a baby!

Oh lord I'm glad he stopped talking...we agreed to do shots every time he said "Yes we can"...I think I should throw up before I sleep. Ugh.

Goddamn, black people in the White House...


:D

Youre just jealous hes not an 'ingin. :p

One downside of electing a young President has just come to my attention.

Obama's daughters. Poor kids ... they were privileged already, but it just got a whole lot worse. Now they're undeniably privileged. Paris Hiltons both.

Call and response is a powerful thing.

Anyone recognize the music?

his speech has suddenly taken on religious connotations...the preacher giving the testimony, with the congregation following.

Very interesting, on many levels.

Oh, don't be silly. "Drill baby drill" ... it's not a Black thing. Nor a religious thing. It's just mob mentality ... which is forgiveable on Election Night.

One downside of electing a young President has just come to my attention.

Obama's daughters. Poor kids ... they were privileged already, but it just got a whole lot worse. Now they're undeniably privileged. Paris Hiltons both.

With Michelle at the helm? Not a chance. Lawyers/community organisers, the both of em.

I wish our politicians could talk all fancy like Obama. That was one helluva speech.

One downside of electing a young President has just come to my attention.

Obama's daughters. Poor kids ... they were privileged already, but it just got a whole lot worse. Now they're undeniably privileged. Paris Hiltons both.

Didn't happen to Chelsea.

One downside of electing a young President has just come to my attention.

Obama's daughters. Poor kids ... they were privileged already, but it just got a whole lot worse. Now they're undeniably privileged. Paris Hiltons both.
They're already getting a new puppy. :D

Anyway, I can sleep now. In all seriousness, I feel as if my whole country just took a big step back from the edge of a cliff that, before, we had been running towards. I've never felt so good about the outcome of an election.

'Night all.

One downside of electing a young President has just come to my attention.

Obama's daughters. Poor kids ... they were privileged already, but it just got a whole lot worse. Now they're undeniably privileged. Paris Hiltons both.

I agree, look at Bush's daughters.

With Michelle at the helm? Not a chance. Lawyers/community organisers, the both of em.

We'll see.

Obama is an outstanding orator. Perhaps the best in American History.

You young 'uns weren't at Gettysburg, were you?

I agree, look at Bush's daughters.



We'll see.

That woman's tough as guts. I don't see her taking nonsense from anybody, let alone her own kids.

Call and response is a powerful thing.

Anyone recognize the music?
Can't say I did...what was it?
Oh, don't be silly. "Drill baby drill" ... it's not a Black thing. Nor a religious thing. It's just mob mentality ... which is forgiveable on Election Night.

There is a difference between starting a chant a la "Drill Baby Drill" or "Yes We Can" and a call/response pattern. One invokes the power of numbers through chant. the other invokes the power of something higher through the call and response (Leader calls out, followers respond).

To continue a chant takes nothing. It would be one thing if they went in to "Yes We Can" immediatly after his first statement. But they didn't. They dragged it. It takes a different type of mentality.

Didn't happen to Chelsea.

Chelsea was older. Not much older than Malia ... but older.

There's a big difference between ten and twelve.

It is, but it's a bigger gap than IN or NC. I'd be truly surprised if he got the one from NE-2.

There is still big gaps around the cities. MO is going to Obama.

You young 'uns weren't at Gettysburg, were you?

Not yet, but once I get this flux capacitor installed and the pies into the trunk, I'm off to have some fun. :D

That woman's tough as guts. I don't see her taking nonsense from anybody, let alone her own kids.

How old are her kids?

Well, my old hometown BoE had some tech difficulties until about midnight, but they finally got online and delivered an extra 18,000 Obama votes to North Carolina. Tally still isn't final, but NBC just called NC for Obama.

4 of 100 counties partial, 96 of 100 Counties Complete

Obama/Biden (DEM) - 49.67% 2,096,858
McCain/Palin (REP) - 49.40% 2,085,326
Barr/Root (LIB) - 0.60% 25,119
WRITE-IN - 0.33% 13,986

Obama to Win
Grave N Idle: 270 to 268
Jello B: 272 to 266
Caprecia: 273 to 265
Shofercia: 277 to 261
Dumb Ideologies: 280 to 258
Hotwife: 285 to 253
Zombie PotatoHeads: 286 to 252
Neo Art: 291 to 247
Vaarshire: 298 to 240
Dragontide: 302 to 236
Luizzo: 302 to 236
Fartsniffage: 302 to 236
Quintessence of Dust: 308 to 230
Daistallia 2104: 309 to 229
Knights of Liberty: 311 to 227
Deus Malum: 313 to 225
Eofaerwic: 313 to 225
Sarzonia: 315 to 223
Lunatic Goofbalss: 316 to 222
Whereyouthinkyougoing: 316 to 222
Arroza: 317 to 221
(2)Whereyouthinkyougoing: 319 to 219
DaWoad: 320 to 218
Aceopolis: 322 to 216
Maraque: 323 to 215
[NS]Cerean: 326 to 212
Sarkhaan: 333 to 205
Kiryu: 337 to 201
(2)Maineiacs: 338 to 200
Gravlen: 338 to 200
Forsakia: 340 to 198
New Manvir: 349 to 189
Copsia Scotia: 349 to 189
Free Soviets: 353 to 185
Jocabia: 354 to 184
Sumamba Buwhan: 357 to 181
Miroxia: 360 to 178
Fleckenstein: 364 to 174
Heikoku 2: 364 to 174
Ermarian: 364 to 174
Gavin: 364 to 174
Kyronea: 364 to 174
Fonzica: 375 to 163
South Lorenya: 380 to 158
Delator: 380 to 158
TJHairball: 382 to 156
Tmutarakhan: 387 to 151
Ferrous Oxide: 538 to 0

McCain to Win
Zilam: 272 to 266
MacEnthailand: 273 to 265
CanuckHeaven: 275 to 263
Maineiacs: 279 to 259

Tie:
Black Forrest Gump

Just wanted to pop in for a minute to remind you that I had updated my estimate. It's on that thread. I'll see you all on New Years Eve.

not yet, but once i get this flux capacitor installed and the pies into the trunk, i'm off to have some fun. :d

1.21 Jiggawatts!

There is still big gaps around the cities. MO is going to Obama.

Did your phone just croak, or am I just getting really shitty reception?

I shouldn't have mentioned the kids. Makes me part of the problem.

I blame the television. Definitely should not post with the television on.

Just wanted to pop in for a minute to remind you that I had updated my estimate. It's on that thread. I'll see you all on New Years Eve.

I know you did. It's in there. I kept your old one and commented your new one with (2)

Did your phone just croak, or am I just getting really shitty reception?

Out of juice and I left my charger at the office.

There is still big gaps around the cities. MO is going to Obama.
You think so?


Either way, IN and NC are reported at 99% now and Obama totally won both of them. http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/whereyouthinkyougoing/Smilies/dancingemote.gif

Out of juice and I left my charger at the office.

Figures. Ah well, I've got class early tomorrow.

Though I'm wondering how many people will actually show up. And how many of those who show up will have hangovers.

Figures. Ah well, I've got class early tomorrow.

Though I'm wondering how many people will actually show up. And how many of those who show up will have hangovers.

76.321% who shows up will have hangovers, and I predict a 31.56% absentee rate.

I'm going to go to school tomorrow singing "Proud to be American" while walking the halls. :p

You think so?


Either way, IN and NC are reported at 99% now and Obama totally won both of them. http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/whereyouthinkyougoing/Smilies/dancingemote.gif

I'm not guessing. You can look at St Louis county, Clay county and Jackson county and see there are still big numbers outstanding. MO still has some life left in it.

Weird. Politico is still showing Georgia (http://www.politico.com/) as undecided.

I'm not guessing. You can look at St Louis county, Clay county and Jackson county and see there are still big numbers outstanding. MO still has some life left in it.
Well, I hope you're right because otherwise Poli totally lied to us. :p

Popular vote time!
Obama: 52,055,029 (51%)
McCain: 48,143,705 (48%)

Obama leads by 3,911,324

Oh, and Christopher Shays, the final Republican representative from New England, has been voted out of office.

And you're not dancing in the street ... because someone might shoot you?
LOL no. I'm not dancing in the street because I'm too lazy! :) I'd have to get out of my chair AND go downstairs to do that--much easier to type on here! Plus, it wouldn't be too fun to be the ONLY one out there...

But the people across the street and behind me usually have big loud parties at every opportunity, so to hear nothing coming from those houses is a "statement" on their part. I suppose I could have livened up the place by playing "Signed Sealed Delivered" through the amp, but I didn't think of it until now...

Weird. Politico is still showing Georgia (http://www.politico.com/) as undecided....Some precinct not done fully reporting yet?

Popular vote time!
Obama: 52,055,029 (51%)
McCain: 48,143,705 (48%)

Obama leads by 3,911,324

Oh, and Christopher Shays, the final Republican representative from New England, has been voted out of office.

And that's with so much still outstanding in CA. I hope he stretches that lead by percent or two. That would be really add to the mandate.

EDIT: IF they just match last election, they'll add 8 million to the total popular vote and could manage the percentage spread by itself.

And that's with so much still outstanding in CA. I hope he stretches that lead by percent or two. That would be really add to the mandate.

I had to argue with my roommate about the significance of a majority popular vote...this even after his boy McCain lost.

I'm hoping Obama can hit at leat 52% by the end of the night, if not 53%

I'm going to go to school tomorrow singing "Proud to be American" while walking the halls. :p

Thank yew very much for getting that song stuck in my head again after I'd shaken it out earlier this evening. :(

And that's with so much still outstanding in CA. I hope he stretches that lead by percent or two. That would be really add to the mandate.

We better start reversing those Prop 8 numbers or I'm going to have to have a stern talk with my state...

Thank yew very much for getting that song stuck in my head again after I'd shaken it out earlier this evening. :(Yew are very welcome. :)

I had to argue with my roommate about the significance of a majority popular vote...this even after his boy McCain lost.

I'm hoping Obama can hit at leat 52% by the end of the night, if not 53%

And that's with so much still outstanding in CA. I hope he stretches that lead by percent or two. That would be really add to the mandate.

EDIT: IF they just match last election, they'll add 8 million to the total popular vote and could manage the percentage spread by itself.

I edited. I really do think you're going to see a major spread. The big cities usually come in late and we know the big cities tend toward being more Dem.

We better start reversing those Prop 8 numbers or I'm going to have to have a stern talk with my state...

Count on the cities. They tend to come in late.

Well, I hope you're right because otherwise Poli totally lied to us. :p

See? It just closed down to 12K votes. That's 20K closer.

We better start reversing those Prop 8 numbers or I'm going to have to have a stern talk with my state...

Exit polls have Prop. 8 losing. Not sure which way selection bias would work there.

See? It just closed down to 12K votes. That's 20K closer.

I saw! Whee.

I edited. I really do think you're going to see a major spread. The big cities usually come in late and we know the big cities tend toward being more Dem.

You do have a point. Boston, with 100% reporting, went 79% to Obama, 20% to McCain (184,320, 45,248 respectively)

You do have a point. Boston, with 100% reporting, went 79% to Obama, 20% to McCain (184,320, 45,248 respectively)

With 56% of precincts reporting, DC went 95% to Obama.

95%.

Oookay. Not gonna even begin to attempt to catch up on the 20+ pages since my teacher decided to turn into a computer nazi. Thank goodness it's finally essentially over with. Now if the local news would tell us about the Cali stuffs... like Prop 8 that needs to die in a fire....

I'm a mod, I have to set a good example. I'm a mod, I have to set a good example. I'm a mod, I have to set a good example...

I saw! Whee.

If all things stay the same, St Louis county is worth about 7K more. So it's really all about the west.

It's looking pretty close, but my numbers have Obama pulling it out by something close to IN and NC numbers.

EDIT: I take it back. I think it'll be even closer. I wasn't counting the smaller counties in. It might be less than 10K difference. We might see some recounts.

I'm a mod, I have to set a good example. I'm a mod, I have to set a good example. I'm a mod, I have to set a good example...You're failing miserably. And failing right in front of a poor, impressionable teen.
For shame. :(

"no" on prop 8 is gaining ground. was 45% now 47% with 25% reporting in now.

I had to argue with my roommate about the significance of a majority popular vote...this even after his boy McCain lost.

I'm hoping Obama can hit at leat 52% by the end of the night, if not 53%

Look at the numbers now. It's expanding. Ah, late night is so much more fun when I prefer the liberal candidate.

"no" on prop 8 is gaining ground. was 45% now 47% with 25% reporting in now.

Link please?

Why is CNN waiting on NC?

"no" on prop 8 is gaining ground. was 45% now 47% with 25% reporting in now.

The percentage reporting in is going up by the difference in specific votes has been roughly the same. That's good news when SF has hardly reported in, along with LA and Sacramento.

Link please?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/ballot.measures/

I'm a mod, I have to set a good example. I'm a mod, I have to set a good example. I'm a mod, I have to set a good example...

Surely this is the sort of situation that calls for an evil alternate... (Shifty eyes)

YAY!!! Clay is in and I was expecting that to go McCain a bit stronger. 100% and it was short by about 6K by my expected difference. That's great news.

I hope Prop 8 gets pounded into the ground. Seriously, the ads for that just appeal directly to fear, ignorance and bigotry. They might as well had pictures of Big Scary Gay Men slobbering and running after children. Any children. YOUR children! I don't even care so much about marriage, actually.

Look at the numbers now. It's expanding. Ah, late night is so much more fun when I prefer the liberal candidate.

You're welcome. :)

(California here.)

Surely this is the sort of situation that calls for an evil alternate... (Shifty eyes)
But everybody knows Reploid Seductions the Bastard NS Mod from Hell is my puppet =p Besides, there was a massive victory dance in the Reppy household tonight already. (And by massive, I mean "massively idiotic", as I can't dance worth beans.)

... Also, please forgive any typos I make, since I busted out the alcohol as soon as I got home from classes tonight. And while I can do shots of whiskey or other hard liquor fine, for some reason cider kicks my ass.

Popular vote time!
Obama: 52,055,029 (51%)
McCain: 48,143,705 (48%)

Obama leads by 3,911,324

The popular vote is the icing on the cake.

For us foreigners who think the electoral college is a horse-drawn obscenity from the days when the United States had serious doubts about being united, or a state ... it's the real measure of who is really President.

The percentage reporting in is going up by the difference in specific votes has been roughly the same. That's good news when SF has hardly reported in, along with LA and Sacramento.
Sacramento is going to vote for it. That's a midwest city more than the 'hippy North' that Santa Cruz and San Francisco is.

Washington
Doctor-assisted suicide: Yes/58%
Er... OK.
Nebraska
End Affirmative Action: Yes/57%
Hm.
And it looks like Florida is going to ban gay marriage.

All Hail our new Overlord President Obama.

LOL, my dad voted for Obama from overseas. Texas ignored his vote and called it a absentee vote instead.


Who cares? Texas is republican anyway.

Why is CNN waiting on NC?

It's like a third of a percent.