NationStates Jolt Archive


The NSG election day thread! - Page 2

Pages : 1 [2] 3 4 5
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 01:41
with 2% in, Florida is 57% to 43% in favor of Obama

I was told there will be a lot of swinging back and forth expected there before anything´s conclusive.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 01:42
Woah. Kay Hagin has a lead over Elizabeth Dole in North Carolina!

Yea, I heard that Dole is already preparing her concession speech.
Sumamba Buwhan
05-11-2008, 01:43
which states can split electoral votes?
Soheran
05-11-2008, 01:44
Is CNN's map set to auto-update? 'Cause whenever I refresh it myself it takes forever to load.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 01:45
which states can split electoral votes?

The only state I know of is Maine.
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 01:45
Speak up speak up!!
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 01:46
I am NOT liking those virginia numbers.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 01:46
The only state I know of is Maine.

That because most of Americans are using it tonight.
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 01:46
They're like a bunch of football hooligans, cummon Obama united!!
Frisbeeteria
05-11-2008, 01:46
CNN says 1% of NC is in. I've got 16% from the North Carolina State Board of Elections (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/7937/12009/en/summary.html), and it's a much different picture.

Obama 57.28% , McCain 42.01%

Senator Hagan 58.32%, Dole 39.07%
Vampire Knight Zero
05-11-2008, 01:47
They're like a bunch of football hooligans, cummon Obama united!!

Nah, much less violence in football. :D
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 01:47
I am NOT liking those virginia numbers.

I have a feeling that this is going to be a looonnnggg night.

Who wants coffee?

*puts on a pot*
Jocabia
05-11-2008, 01:47
Dude, the numbers are phenomenal. The turnout.

With 3% reporting in FL, the number of votes in is around 10% of the vote in 2004. Now, it could bigger precints have reported earlier, but I think it looks telling.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 01:48
Why am I getting all riled up for this?!:eek2:
Soheran
05-11-2008, 01:48
I am NOT liking those virginia numbers.

It's 6% reporting. Did you see the exit polls? Considerable lead for Obama.
Vampire Knight Zero
05-11-2008, 01:49
Why am I getting all riled up for this?!:eek2:

Because it's important and exciting. :D
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 01:49
It's 6% reporting. Did you see the exit polls? Considerable lead for Obama.

they said the same in Ohio 4 years ago :p don't trust exit polls.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 01:50
they said the same in Ohio 4 years ago :p don't trust exit polls.

That what I've been saying since 2004....no one ever listens to me until it's too late.

*pouts*
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 01:50
I have a feeling that this is going to be a looonnnggg night.

Who wants coffee?

*puts on a pot*

Yo Will, gimme a cup!
*twitters*
I am all jittery!
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 01:51
Obama is 58%/42% in Florida with 10% in. Probably Miami precincts reporting, giving him an early bump.
Soheran
05-11-2008, 01:51
they said the same in Ohio 4 years ago :p

Wrong sometimes is not the same as wrong in general.

And, like I said, it's 6%. I'll start worrying when we're still at 57/42 at 30%.
Frisbeeteria
05-11-2008, 01:53
Virginia State Board of Elections (http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/Election_Information/Election_Results/Index.html) has results broken out by district and locality if you want to delve into it.

I'm betting that polls in NoVA are still processing long lines. These are rural numbers.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 01:55
which states can split electoral votes?

Nebraska and Maine.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 01:55
South Carolina to McCain.
Frisbeeteria
05-11-2008, 01:56
Georgia Election Results (http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2008_1104/swall.htm).

These are easy to google, and your information would be fresher than the damn networks. If you really want to follow the votes, go to the source.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 01:57
South Carolina has been called for McCain. 16 to 3.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 01:57
North Carolina may go to Obama
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 01:58
South Carolina to McCain by CNN's projections, despite the fact that McCain is losing 44 to 55 with only 1% reporting.


Really? You're going to call that?
JuNii
05-11-2008, 01:59
Why am I getting all riled up for this?!:eek2:

same reason why people get riled up about sports when they don't like sports.

it's the atmosphere and momentum.
Velka Morava
05-11-2008, 01:59
MSNBC widget
S Carolina to McCain
Obama 57% McCain 42%
...
...
DOH??
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:01
Pennsylvania to obama!
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:02
big results are in, hold on, updating main thread.
Soheran
05-11-2008, 02:03
Really? You're going to call that?

Come on, Obama has a snowball's chance in hell of winning South Carolina.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:03
same reason why people get riled up about sports when they don't like sports.

it's the atmosphere and momentum.

*sits on JuNii´s lap* The camaraderie and what not.
Tampa´s leaning Obama?
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:04
Pennsylvania to obama!

PA polls just closed 4 minutes ago, too early to call.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:04
So far no surprises.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 02:04
Come on, Obama has a snowball's chance in hell of winning South Carolina.

But still...come on. They called MA without a single vote actually being counted and reported.

Keep it in your pants, cable news.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:06
But still...come on. They called MA without a single vote actually being counted and reported.

Keep it in your pants, cable news.

Hmm, if they report this while in BDSM gear.....
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 02:07
OK, so, they'll call SC (Admittedly very red), but they won't call Alabama? :p
Nice.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:08
Front thread updated. I will NOT add PA until I see real numbers.
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 02:08
McCain under performing Bush according to CNN.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:08
Hmm, if they report this while in BDSM gear.....

I swear I´ll relocate to the US.:eek:
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:08
Texas has reported. Leaning McCain!
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:08
Florida is looking more and more blue.
Frisbeeteria
05-11-2008, 02:09
North Carolina may go to Obama

May?

Per the NC BOE (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/7937/12091/en/summary.html) site, with 20% of the vote in, Obama is ahead 55/45.

Looking at the reporting counties, that's a RURAL vote. None of the heavily populated counties around Raleigh, Charlotte, Asheville, Greensboro, etc have weighed in yet.

I'm calling NC as an Obama blowout.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:09
McCain under performing Bush according to CNN.

in VA and FL, both major states.

VA has BAAAAAD numbers for Obama right now, but apparently it's mostly rural, and Bush did better in those areas than McCain is right now.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:10
May?

Per the NC BOE (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/7937/12091/en/summary.html) site, with 20% of the vote in, Obama is ahead 55/45.

Looking at the reporting counties, that's a RURAL vote. None of the heavily populated counties around Raleigh, Charlotte, Asheville, Greensboro, etc have weighed in yet.

I'm calling NC as an Obama blowout.

That would be a surprise, would it not?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:10
This one came as a shocker to me...

West Virginia is leaning Obama.:eek2:
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:12
May?

Per the NC BOE (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/7937/12091/en/summary.html) site, with 20% of the vote in, Obama is ahead 55/45.

Looking at the reporting counties, that's a RURAL vote. None of the heavily populated counties around Raleigh, Charlotte, Asheville, Greensboro, etc have weighed in yet.

I'm calling NC as an Obama blowout.

Ok, NC to Obama, one battleground state down.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:12
That would be a surprise, would it not?

a NC win would be surprising, a blow out would be surprising.
Frisbeeteria
05-11-2008, 02:13
Nash County, NC, has reported that 70,581 votes have been cast in a county of 64,759 registered voters.

That's 108.99 % of voters. There might be a few bugs in this system yet ...
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:14
Obma leading in Ohio currently with 67%.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 02:15
Nash County, NC, has reported that 70,581 votes have been cast in a county of 64,759 registered voters.

That's 108.99 % of voters. There might be a few bugs in this system yet ...Another not-surprise surprise! :p
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:15
Texas apparently flipped Democrat on the last update.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:15
obama's lead in florida is slipping but still strong +8 at 54%/46% with a quarter reporting in.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:16
Texas apparently flipped Democrat on the last update.

Don't you just love it when they rush these things to be the first to announce it?

That's why I'm not getting too worked up about it. Hopefully we'll know the results tomorrow morning.
JuNii
05-11-2008, 02:16
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/
Poliwanacraca
05-11-2008, 02:16
Nash County, NC, has reported that 70,581 votes have been cast in a county of 64,759 registered voters.

That's 108.99 % of voters. There might be a few bugs in this system yet ...

Hee. Just a few, perhaps. :tongue:
Soheran
05-11-2008, 02:17
Ok, NC to Obama, one battleground state down.

The numbers are not that decisive. Frisbeeteria's site now has 52-47, with 21/100 counties "partially reporting."
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:19
Virginia is scaring me.
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:19
Texas apparently flipped Democrat on the last update.

THAT'S not going to hold for much longer.
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 02:19
Nash County, NC, has reported that 70,581 votes have been cast in a county of 64,759 registered voters.

That's 108.99 % of voters. There might be a few bugs in this system yet ...

They just had a REALLY good turnout...
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:19
Virginia is scaring me.

Oh, calm down, Nervous Neo. :tongue:
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:19
down to 6% lead in Florida with 30% in.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:19
Virginia is scaring me.

Democracy in action Art, Democracy in action.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:20
THAT'S not going to hold for much longer.

Yeah, wealthy oil owners leaning towards Obama... not buying that.:D
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 02:20
Virginia is scaring me.

Virginia is still only reporting rural votes, I believe. We haven't seen much from the Democrat strongholds.

That's my impression, at least.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:20
Virginia is scaring me.

They probably haven't gotten the urban areas in. Calm down, good sir.
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 02:21
So the BBC has called Pennsylvania for Obama, yet CNN have no figures for there yet?
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 02:21
But say Virginia actually goes to McCain, how bad an effect could this one state have?
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:21
Yeah, wealthy oil owners leaning towards Obama... not buying that.:D

Hey, we want energy independence... that means more buying for us of good old, American oil!
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:21
So the BBC has called Pennsylvania for Obama, yet CNN have no figures for there yet?

The BBC knows nothing!:eek:
Soheran
05-11-2008, 02:21
down to 6% lead in Florida with 30% in.

The exit polls (yes, I know) for Florida are scarily close.

49-49 among men, 50-48 Obama among women.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:22
So the BBC has called Pennsylvania for Obama, yet CNN have no figures for there yet?

CNN isn't using exit poll data on battleground states.
Vampire Knight Zero
05-11-2008, 02:22
The BBC knows nothing!:eek:

I am inclined to agree.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:22
The exit polls (yes, I know) for Florida are scarily close.

49-49 among men, 50-48 Obama among women.

hey that's fine, 2% is a win :p But I'll wait to see.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 02:22
Virginia is scaring me.

Time for your valium already?
JuNii
05-11-2008, 02:23
*sits on JuNii´s lap*

screw CNN and FOXNEWS!

I got the best "Coverage" :)
JuNii
05-11-2008, 02:23
hey that's fine, 2% is a win :p But I'll wait to see.

isn't 2% still within the range for a recount? :tongue:
Frisbeeteria
05-11-2008, 02:25
Nash County, NC, has reported that 70,581 votes have been cast in a county of 64,759 registered voters.

That's 108.99 % of voters.

Looks like a recording error. Nash is back down under 50% as NC approaches 30% reporting.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:25
isn't 2% still within the range for a recount? :tongue:

*covers JuNii mouth with a rag dipped in cholorform and knocks JuNii out*

Shh...don't give the Republicans any idea, do you want a repeat of 2000?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:26
*covers JuNii mouth with a rag dipped in cholorform and knocks JuNii out*

Shh...don't give the Republicans any idea, do you want a repeat of 2000?

:eek:
Wil!
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:28
isn't 2% still within the range for a recount? :tongue:

not really, no. Generally less than one half of one percent.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:28
:eek:
Wil!

*starts dipping another rag* Want to be next?

There's is a reason I'm obessed with the SAW movies. *crooked grin*
JuNii
05-11-2008, 02:28
:eek:
Wil!

No worries. I spent several years building up a resistance to cholorform.



or was that Iocane powder?
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 02:28
CNN has it at 53% Obama, 47% McCain. With 30% of precincts reporting.
Edit: Make that 33%. Same split.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:29
*starts dipping another rag* Want to be next?

There's is a reason I'm obessed with the SAW movies. *crooked grin*

*squeals and scurries away*
I want to see the final results, so no thank you.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:29
Anybody planning to switch over to Comedy Central for the Daily Show/Colbert Report special?
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:30
New Hamp to Obama!
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:30
NH has been called for Obama.
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 02:31
New Hamp to Obama!

Only on 9%, though... patience, padawan.
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 02:31
New Hamp to Obama!

NH has been called for Obama.

Is this surprising?
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 02:32
BBC just called Alabama and Arkansas for McCain
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:32
Is this surprising?

well...McCain targeted it, and if Obama was going to lose ANY state that Kerry won, it would have been New Hampshire.
Vampire Knight Zero
05-11-2008, 02:32
BBC just called Alabama and Arkansas for McCain

Hardly suprising.
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 02:33
BBC just called Alabama and Arkansas for McCain

Do you have sky or virgin? They have the CNN channel, you're better off watching that.
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:33
Anybody planning to switch over to Comedy Central for the Daily Show/Colbert Report special?

When's that going to be on?
JuNii
05-11-2008, 02:33
*Shoots Wilgrove with Taser*
how dare you chase away my most excellent coverage!
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:33
BBC just called Alabama and Arkansas for McCain

What do the Brits know about American politics? :p
Nanatsu no Tsuki
05-11-2008, 02:33
BBC just called Alabama and Arkansas for McCain

The BBC is Satan himself!:eek2:
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:33
when's that going to be on?

10-11 est.
Vampire Knight Zero
05-11-2008, 02:34
The BBC is Satan himself!:eek2:

Nah, just stupid. :D
Frisbeeteria
05-11-2008, 02:34
VA BOE reports:

John McCain and Sarah Palin 658,082 52.54%
Barack Obama and Joe Biden 580,539 46.35%

Precincts Reporting:
1,059 of 2,496 (42.42%)

Voter Turnout:
1,252,332 of 4,912,971 active voters (25.49%)
1,252,332 of 5,034,660 total voters (24.87%) Votes by County/City
Still not clear where these ballots are coming from, but given the disparity between precinct % and voter %, I'm guessing rural districts.
Soheran
05-11-2008, 02:34
Well, it's looking really bad for gay rights (and unmarried opposite-sex couples' rights) in Florida.

CNN has 60-40 for the amendment there, and that's from the crowd currently leaning for Obama.
Cannot think of a name
05-11-2008, 02:34
Anybody planning to switch over to Comedy Central for the Daily Show/Colbert Report special?

Hell fucking yeah.
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 02:34
Do you have sky or virgin? They have the CNN channel, you're better off watching that.

Freeview unfortunately, but I'm watching the CNN website
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 02:34
So far things look bad for my "Georgia for Obama" optimistic projection, but none of the networks have called GA yet. Maybe the early votes are getting counted last?
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:35
Anyone know the results on Prop 8 in California?
Soheran
05-11-2008, 02:35
Anyone know the results on Prop 8 in California?

Voting is still on in California. They won't report any results there until much later tonight.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:36
Voting is still on in California. They won't report any results there until much later tonight.

K, I'm hoping it fails....I hope it has an Epic Fail....I'm hoping it goes down in flame.

Mainly because of the YouTube video of those two annoying kids singing about why I should vote yes on Prop 8...even though I'm in North Carolina.
The One Eyed Weasel
05-11-2008, 02:37
Does anybody know a site where we can see ALL the votes for ALL the candidates? Even write-ins?

That would be really kick ass.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:37
Just a little comedy. (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/voting_machines_elect_one_of)
JuNii
05-11-2008, 02:37
well, it's time for me to go.

for those celebrating a victory... have a glass for me.

for those wallowing in defeat... have a glass for me.
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 02:38
So far things look bad for my "Georgia for Obama" optimistic projection, but none of the networks have called GA yet. Maybe the early votes are getting counted last?

Not too surprised. The fact that GA even looked like it might be a tossup is progress, though. But still - we'll have to wait and see.
Cannot think of a name
05-11-2008, 02:38
So far things look bad for my "Georgia for Obama" optimistic projection, but none of the networks have called GA yet. Maybe the early votes are getting counted last?
MSNBC just called it.
Anyone know the results on Prop 8 in California?

Dude, it's not even 6pm here yet.
JuNii
05-11-2008, 02:38
K, I'm hoping it fails....I hope it has an Epic Fail....I'm hoping it goes down in flame.

Mainly because of the YouTube video of those two annoying kids singing about why I should vote yes on Prop 8...even though I'm in North Carolina.

what song were they singing? "Every Sperm is Sacred"? :p
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:39
with 40% of the precincts reporting, Obama is up 4% in florida.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 02:39
Where are you looking, Neo?
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 02:39
Me and my BIG mouth. The networks have started calling Georgia for McCain.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:39
what song were they singing? "Every Sperm is Sacred"? :p

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LlItG4raicA

Remember, it's for the children...
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:39
Pennsylvania to obama!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:39
When will the Daily Show/Colbert Report thing be on?
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:40
and THERE IT IS. CNN called PA for Obama.
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 02:40
Pennsylvania for Obama.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:40
DS/CR will be on 10-11 o'clock EST.
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:42
DS/CR will be on 10-11 o'clock EST.

So in about one hour fifteen minutes from now?
Arroza
05-11-2008, 02:42
As long as Chambliss loses in GA it'll be all good.
Soheran
05-11-2008, 02:42
and THERE IT IS. CNN called PA for Obama.

I think they were just waiting for the first batch of results, to have a pretext.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:42
Wait...how can they call PA when there's only two rural county reporting?
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:43
Wait...how can they call PA when there's only two rural county reporting?

Exit polling shows a massive blowout.
Cannot think of a name
05-11-2008, 02:43
As long as Chambliss loses in GA it'll be all good.

The numbers went by a while ago and he's killing, unfortunately. I don't know how much is reporting, though.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:44
Exit polling shows a massive blowout.

Exit polls also showed Kerry winning....

I'd though they'd at least be more careful with the battleground states, I guess not...

I'm going back to House M.D.

*grumbles*
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 02:44
Lead's decreasing for Obama in Florida.
51% Obama/48% McCain.
41% of precincts.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:45
Breaking news on MSN.com: Hagen defeats Dole in N.C.
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:45
Exit polls also showed Kerry winning....

I'd though they'd at least be more careful with the battleground states, I guess not...

I'm going back to House M.D.

*grumbles*

And were reliable in most places except for Ohio. Ohio was the exception among the rule even in that election.
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 02:46
FL was uncalled because Obama's big lead was in the early voting. It's going to be tight.

Not liking the way VA is looking, either. Things look good here in NC, though. NPR has already called the Senate race for Kay Hagan.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:46
And were reliable in most places except for Ohio. Ohio was the exception among the rule even in that election.

Sorry, but with only two counties reporting in PA, I don't think anyone should be calling it yet.
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 02:46
So Florida looks real close, but if Obama stays on course in Ohio that doesn't really matter now he has Pen right?
Luna Amore
05-11-2008, 02:47
Wait...how can they call PA when there's only two rural county reporting?They called Maine with like 25 votes confirmed. Magic I say! Or Exit polls.
New Limacon
05-11-2008, 02:47
Exit polling shows a massive blowout.

I'm guessing they also look at pre-election polls. NPR has called Obama in Washington, D.C., even though they have no results yet. In Virginia only 25% of the precincts were reported when they declared Warner the Senate winner, again because he had a sizable lead in the previous polls. If these Pennsylvania counties were places Obama was not expected to win, they may just add them to the places where he was considered a shoe-in.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:47
So Florida looks real close, but if Obama stays on course in Ohio that doesn't really matter now he has Pen right?

If NC jumps, Ohio and Virginia don't matter. All he needs to do is pick up all the others that he's projected to get and he wins.
Deus Malum
05-11-2008, 02:48
FL was uncalled because Obama's big lead was in the early voting. It's going to be tight.

Not liking the way VA is looking, either. Things look good here in NC, though. NPR has already called the Senate race for Kay Hagan.

Well that's good news, given the vitriol Dole has been spewing the past few weeks.
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:48
Sorry, but with only two counties reporting in PA, I don't think anyone should be calling it yet.

Those are the actual election results. What it's being called on is exit polling, which is different.

And besides, exit polling IS extremely reliable, because all it's asking people to do is report on something they just did. That's why it's so much more reliable than regular polling, and why it was such a shocker it was way off in Ohio.
Arroza
05-11-2008, 02:48
I'm pretty sure that Ohio + Pennsylvania = win.
Wilgrove
05-11-2008, 02:48
They called Maine with like 25 votes confirmed. Magic I say! Or Exit polls.

Gotta love news channel like CNN....
Soheran
05-11-2008, 02:49
I'm pretty sure that Ohio + Pennsylvania = win.

It is, but OH is way too soon to call.
Luna Amore
05-11-2008, 02:50
Gotta love news channel like CNN....I wonder if they are just making up for the 2000 Florida fiasco. Blue, red, blue, red.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:51
I'm pretty sure that Ohio + Pennsylvania = win.

pennsylvania and pretty much ANY swing state at this point is a win. Check my election post at the start of this thread.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 02:51
I hope that at 9:00 Michigan will be called for Sen. Obama. The Republicans here broke with McCain and started bringing up Rev. Wright.
Arroza
05-11-2008, 02:52
It is, but OH is way too soon to call.

They seemed all too close except for my home state...sigh.
Arroza
05-11-2008, 02:53
pennsylvania and pretty much ANY swing state at this point is a win. Check my election post at the start of this thread.

Yeah, I saw that post and it made my head explode.
Soheran
05-11-2008, 02:53
pennsylvania and pretty much ANY swing state at this point is a win.

PA + VA? Assuming that only VA crosses over, that's 273 - 265 McCain, isn't it? Same with the other low teen states.

Am I missing something?
Jocabia
05-11-2008, 02:54
Those are the actual election results. What it's being called on is exit polling, which is different.

And besides, exit polling IS extremely reliable, because all it's asking people to do is report on something they just did. That's why it's so much more reliable than regular polling, and why it was such a shocker it was way off in Ohio.

Kyr, don't. It's not reliable. It's an attempt at random sampling, but the problem is that traditionally certain demographics refuse to answer so you don't get a good sampling. It's been wildly unreliable in the past and it's methods are questionable. There's a good article about it on 538 if you want to read up on it.
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 02:54
pennsylvania and pretty much ANY swing state at this point is a win. Check my election post at the start of this thread.

Yeah i read it. All very confusing, Brit politics makes much more sense, win enough seats and your there
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:54
PA + VA? Assuming that only VA crosses over, that's 273 - 265 McCain, isn't it? Same with the other low teen states.

Am I missing something?

277 Oba I believe, if everything stays the way it should. (including a New Mexico and Iowa pickup from Kerry, which is pretty certain)
Jocabia
05-11-2008, 02:55
Dude, I'm pretty much going to eat and go to bed. I'm sick and I'm tired (literally) and McCain is getting beaten like the petulant child he is.
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 02:56
As a general question, can someone tell me how expat votes work? I work with an american expat and he said he would be voting but i didn't have a chance to get him to elaborate
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 02:58
Kyr, don't. It's not reliable. It's an attempt at random sampling, but the problem is that traditionally certain demographics refuse to answer so you don't get a good sampling. It's been wildly unreliable in the past and it's methods are questionable. There's a good article about it on 538 if you want to read up on it.

Oh. :(

Drat.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 02:58
Alabama called for McCain.
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 02:59
Is Obama supposed to be doing a speech soon?
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 03:00
Alabama called for McCain.With 1% of the precincts reporting, and McCain is losing in the state so far? No, thanks.
Hydesland
05-11-2008, 03:00
Ahh, not sure if I want to go to bed or not! It's 2am, but I have nothing to get up for tomorrow. Do you guys reckon it's worth staying up?
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:00
Rhode Island, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and New York all called for Obama.

Wyomming and North Dakota called for McCain.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 03:01
Obama now at 174. Less than a hundred, and McCain needs more than 200.
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 03:01
It's bizarre watching CNN say they have about 1% of votes returned in Alabama, with a slight advatage to Obama... and see them calling it for McCain.

Not that I think they're wrong. I won't be at all surprised to see Alabama go red. I just find it funny when they call it based on that kind of evidence.
NERVUN
05-11-2008, 03:01
As a general question, can someone tell me how expat votes work? I work with an american expat and he said he would be voting but i didn't have a chance to get him to elaborate
Simple enough, said expat (Like myself) makes a request of his/her country clerk back home to send an absentee ballot. Said ballot is mailed over, you mark down whom you're voting for, and mail it back before Nov. 4th.

If you happen to live next to a US Consulate or Embassy, you can drop your ballot off with them and they'll send it home for free in a diplomatic pouch, but since the closet embassy to me is 3 hrs away, I just used airmail and had to get JapanPost to accept the overly large envelope.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
05-11-2008, 03:01
North Dakota, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I believed in you! :(
Arroza
05-11-2008, 03:01
Rhode Island, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and New York all called for Obama.

MSNBC is calling Kansas, N. Dakota and Wyoming for Skeletor as well.
Soheran
05-11-2008, 03:02
With 1% of the precincts reporting, and McCain is losing in the state so far? No, thanks.

Come on, 1% of precincts are reporting right now in MD, and they called it fifty minutes ago. Some states, we know.
Arroza
05-11-2008, 03:04
It's bizarre watching CNN say they have about 1% of votes returned in Alabama, with a slight advatage to Obama... and see them calling it for McCain.

Not that I think they're wrong. I won't be at all surprised to see Alabama go red. I just find it funny when they call it based on that kind of evidence.

it depends on where the 1% is. If it's Birmingham and Obama's not sweeping, then it's pretty safe to call as Obama's going to get ran badly in the redneck parts of the state. In a lot of places though the red, more sparsely populated parts of the state report in first, as they have less ballots to count and process.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 03:04
Come on, 1% of precincts are reporting right now in MD, and they called it fifty minutes ago. Some states, we know.But Georgia is McCain at 61% with 30% of the precincts reporting, and they still won't call it. Doesn't make any sense to call a state with so little data.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:04
Fox just called Obama to win Ohio...
DaWoad
05-11-2008, 03:04
not to nitpick Neo Art, but slight typo. The OP states that Alabama was called for OBAMA but the number update shows you meant Mccain
*proceeds to nitpick*
Luna Amore
05-11-2008, 03:05
Fox just called Obama to win Ohio...I think hell just froze over.
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 03:06
BBC just called Georgia for McCain
DaWoad
05-11-2008, 03:06
I think hell just froze over.

Cooooolllld . .. . Sossossso Coooooooollllld!
*Involuntary Shivering*
Soheran
05-11-2008, 03:06
But Georgia is McCain at 61% with 30% of the precincts reporting, and they still won't call it. Doesn't make any sense to call a state with so little data.

Maybe the exit polls there were closer.

Fox just called Obama to win Ohio...

That's victory, if it holds. It's over.
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 03:07
I was curious about how NC was looking... Hagen has been declared by MSNBC (which is awesome news)... but... Holy Shit! District 4 Democrats taking 75% (51% reported)?
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:07
I think hell just froze over.

I know what you mean, I thought GOP would get Ohio and Democrats would get Indiana but seems I've got it wrong.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 03:07
I think hell just froze over.It's a 60 O/ 40 M/ 5 P split.
O- for future reference is Obama.
M - for future reference is McCain.
P - for future reference is precincts.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 03:07
Assuming Obama wins CA, WA, OR, and HI, Obama currently only needs 19 electorals. Not too shabby. Ohio would give Obama the win, given these 4 other states.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 03:07
Fox just called Obama to win Ohio...

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Repblicans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I believe something awesome has happened.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:08
not to nitpick Neo Art, but slight typo. The OP states that Alabama was called for OBAMA but the number update shows you meant Mccain
*proceeds to nitpick*

quite right, and fixed. It was a McCain win.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:08
Maybe the exit polls there were closer.



That's victory, if it holds. It's over.

I love the fact that Fox called it. They're also calling New Mexico for Obama.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:08
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Repblicans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I believe something awesome has happened.

Marry me?
Arroza
05-11-2008, 03:09
Ar-Kansas called for Skeletor. Still waiting on N.C. though, they said he was running Raleigh (Wake County) hard.
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 03:09
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Repblicans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I believe something awesome has happened.

I believe you may be right
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 03:10
A bit of MA news:

Income tax will remain (currently, 70% in favor). No results yet on decriminalization of marijuana or banning dog racing
[NS]Cerean
05-11-2008, 03:10
+4 Dem in senate races so far.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:11
Ar-Kansas called for Skeletor. Still waiting on N.C. though, they said he was running Raleigh (Wake County) hard.

Just to clarify, who do you mean by Skeletor? I haven't been on NS for aaages...
And they think Florida may have gone to Obama (maybe).
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 03:11
NC 52% Obama to 47 McCain, with 33% reporting.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 03:11
Marry me?

I'm sorry, but the ways of a Jedi do not allow me to love. Or marry. In fact, being a Jedi kind of sucks.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:13
I'm sorry, but the ways of a Jedi do not allow me to love. Or marry. In fact, being a Jedi kind of sucks.

You're not the first one to use that excuse.



....:(
Chazaka
05-11-2008, 03:13
join the dark side, we have cookies!(and you can marry/love all you want, until you unwillingly kill off your lover but still)

on topic, hope Kansas eventually swings obama.
Luna Amore
05-11-2008, 03:13
I know what you mean, I thought GOP would get Ohio and Democrats would get Indiana but seems I've got it wrong.Actually, I was more shocked that Fox called a toss up state this early for Obama. Especially Ohio.
NERVUN
05-11-2008, 03:14
join the dark side, we have cookies!(and you can marry/love all you want, until you unwillingly kill off your lover but still)
What kind of cookies?
Arroza
05-11-2008, 03:14
Just to clarify, who do you mean by Skeletor? I haven't been on NS for aaages...
And they think Florida may have gone to Obama (maybe).

I'm calling McCain Skeletor, both for his evil, and for their resemblance.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:14
Wow, obama up by 4% in Florida and it's half way done.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:15
I'm calling McCain Skeletor, both for his evil, and for their resemblance.

Right, much better. Don't we have a name for Obama? I mean, that's just favouritism.
DaWoad
05-11-2008, 03:15
quite right, and fixed. It was a McCain win.

lol sorry. Your doing an awesome job!
Chazaka
05-11-2008, 03:16
whatever kind you want!

still don't get how you can say a state is going to go one way when 0-1% of the prescient have reported.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:16
Georgia has been called for McCain.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 03:16
What kind of cookies?They gave me white chocolate macadamia. With nuts.
They were so good. :( *ashamed*
Luna Amore
05-11-2008, 03:16
Wow, obama up by 4% in Florida and it's half way done.So happy about that. My county is currently going for Obama. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Grave_n_idle
05-11-2008, 03:16
Chambliss looks set to win, unfortunately. 57% to 39% (on 34% reporting). Not surprising - Georgia looks like it's going for McCain at almost 2-to-1, but it's a bit sad.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 03:17
Georgia has been called for McCain.Finally.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 03:17
On another note, I just realized that I haven't seen a campaign commercial in hours. That's a real, REAL, relief.
NERVUN
05-11-2008, 03:19
They gave me white chocolate macadamia. With nuts.
They were so good. :( *ashamed*
Hmm, very temping. Truly I do not know the power of Dark Side baking...

BTW, MSNBC is reporting that Arizona is too close to call right now.

Yup, McCain's in danger of losing his home state.
Luna Amore
05-11-2008, 03:19
On another note, I just realized that I haven't seen a campaign commercial in hours. That's a real, REAL, relief.That is the real victory.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:19
Georgia has been called for McCain.

That's like saying the sky is blue, to be fair.
Arroza
05-11-2008, 03:20
On another note, I just realized that I haven't seen a campaign commercial in hours. That's a real, REAL, relief.

:hail:
Chazaka
05-11-2008, 03:20
dam kansas just got called for mccain(with only 1% of precincts really?), hope boyada wins.
Sarkhaan
05-11-2008, 03:21
That's like saying the sky is blue, to be fair.

Oddly enough, the "Big Sky" states are all predicted to go red...strange.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 03:21
That is the real victory.Trust! :D

Hmm, very temping. Truly I do not know the power of Dark Side baking...

BTW, MSNBC is reporting that Arizona is too close to call right now.

Yup, McCain's in danger of losing his home state.You know, they haven't reported a single party change state yet, on CNN.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:22
West Virginia just got called for McCain.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:22
Oddly enough, the "Big Sky" states are all predicted to go red...strange.

Solid proof that America is a backwards country.
Arroza
05-11-2008, 03:23
MSNBC called Ohio for Obama. Last McCain fan out the door, turn off the lights, it's over.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 03:24
Damn, West Virginia to McCain.
Kyronea
05-11-2008, 03:24
MSNBC just called Ohio for Obammer.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:24
MSNBC called Ohio for Obama. Last McCain fan out the door, turn off the lights, it's over.

BBC just called it as well.
Blouman Empire
05-11-2008, 03:25
*Raising hand of ignorance*

This may have been asked and answered before, but as I haven't and won't read all 31 pages oh this thread I would like to know.

Now I saw when the closed the polls for a bunch if East/Mideast (excuse the incorrect terminology) states, all the TV stations automatically called the states who was going to win and added it to their electoral vote tally.

What I want to know is how can they call a state when only a small percentage of the votes have been counted and only a small number of precincts are reporting?

This isn't like it was 1-2 hours after they had closed but straight away, I would like to know how and why and if they are accurate to look at?

Could it not be possible that they may be wrong in some of these changing it?

If they are so sure why do they wait until the moment the booths have closed? When they could call it 5 minutes or an hour before they are called.
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 03:25
bbc just now called ohio for obama
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:25
MSNBC called Ohio for Obama. Last McCain fan out the door, turn off the lights, it's over.

I'm waiting for CNN to say it. But they just said "big projection coming up"
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 03:25
CNN is about to call it as well.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:25
Damn, West Virginia to McCain.

It doesn't matter anymore, if Obama HAS won Ohio then it's over.
NERVUN
05-11-2008, 03:26
MSNBC called Ohio for Obama. Last McCain fan out the door, turn off the lights, it's over.
Wait for it.
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:26
*Raising hand of ignorance*

This may have been asked and answered before, but as I haven't and won't read all 31 pages oh this thread I would like to know.

Now I saw when the closed the polls for a bunch if East/Mideast (excuse the incorrect terminology) states, all the TV stations automatically called the states who was going to win and added it to their electoral vote tally.

What I want to know is how can they call a state when only a small percentage of the votes have been counted and only a small number of precincts are reporting?

This isn't like it was 1-2 hours after they had closed but straight away, I would like to know how and why and if they are accurate to look at?

Could it not be possible that they may be wrong in some of these changing it?

If they are so sure why do they wait until the moment the booths have closed? When they could call it 5 minutes or an hour before they are called.

Exit polls, and tradition. There's basically no way some candidates win some states. It's a given.
Poliwanacraca
05-11-2008, 03:26
dam kansas just got called for mccain(with only 1% of precincts really?), hope boyada wins.

4% of KS precincts counted here (next door to KS), and they're going about 75% for McCain, so it's pretty easy to call. Boyda's race is still coming up as too close to call.

And ABC is calling Ohio for Obama, w00t!
Chazaka
05-11-2008, 03:26
I'd assume its so that they don't make any last minute voters say screw it, the other candidate won already anyway.(for the timing of the results)
[NS]Rolling squid
05-11-2008, 03:27
Yup, Ohio is to Obama. Looking good for him, he's at 195 projected, without Californians 55 votes in yet. He needs twenty more to win.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 03:27
North Carolina and Virginia are less than 2% apart on the candidates.
Holy shit.
Gaeltach
05-11-2008, 03:28
*Raising hand of ignorance*

This may have been asked and answered before, but as I haven't and won't read all 31 pages oh this thread I would like to know.

Now I saw when the closed the polls for a bunch if East/Mideast (excuse the incorrect terminology) states, all the TV stations automatically called the states who was going to win and added it to their electoral vote tally.

What I want to know is how can they call a state when only a small percentage of the votes have been counted and only a small number of precincts are reporting?

This isn't like it was 1-2 hours after they had closed but straight away, I would like to know how and why and if they are accurate to look at?

Could it not be possible that they may be wrong in some of these changing it?

If they are so sure why do they wait until the moment the booths have closed? When they could call it 5 minutes or an hour before they are called.

If I'm not mistaken, they also take into consideration the population density of those reporting precincts. If major cities are included/represented, they're more likely to call it with any degree of certainty. If it's mostly rural precincts, they tend to wait. (I might be making that up, but that's been my observation over the years.)
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 03:29
Florida still running real close - lawyer fest later?
Maraque
05-11-2008, 03:29
This is killing my nerves!
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:30
with 70% of Virginia reporting, Obama has brought it a very close run, 49% to 50% in favor of McCain, and with 50% in in Florida, he leads by 3 points.
Soheran
05-11-2008, 03:30
VA is not so scary any more....
Ollieland
05-11-2008, 03:31
Arizona is being called as tied - has a candidate ever lost their home state?
NERVUN
05-11-2008, 03:31
This is killing my nerves!
I know how you feel, and I've got to go teach so I'll have 45 minutes of no news.

Ja ne!
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:32
Florida still running real close - lawyer fest later?

Probably. Always is a bit of a joke isn't it?
Poliwanacraca
05-11-2008, 03:32
Arizona is being called as tied - has a candidate ever lost their home state?

Yes. It's not too terribly uncommon, really, but it'll still be an awesome surprise if Arizona goes blue.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 03:32
Arizona is being called as tied - has a candidate ever lost their home state?

It's happened before. It's basically a sign of defeat.
The_pantless_hero
05-11-2008, 03:33
With 1% of the precincts reporting, and McCain is losing in the state so far? No, thanks.
If McCain can't win Alabama, he should go on tv and say he quits.

It's happened before. It's basically a sign of defeat.
Well Gore lost his, but he was a Democrat from a red state. McCain is a war hero with a several decade senate term from a state that usually goes toward the same party he is. It would really hurt to lose his home state.

And McCain pretty much has no chance of winning by now - he has to win every swing state and every leaning Democrat state to overcome Obama, and it isn't really swinging that way, but no telling yet.
Gauntleted Fist
05-11-2008, 03:33
Indiana, and Missouri, are slightly leaning McCain.
Arroza
05-11-2008, 03:34
Nex Mexico called blue. Obama is so far landsliding it 200-85.
Cannot think of a name
05-11-2008, 03:34
Arizona is being called as tied - has a candidate ever lost their home state?

Kerry? Gore? I think it was Gore, didn't carry Tennessee.
Arinola
05-11-2008, 03:34
If McCain can't win Alabama, he should go on tv and say he quits.

He should have done that last week...
Neo Art
05-11-2008, 03:34
and that's it. CNN just called Ohio for Obama.

Game over.
Tiberiusa
05-11-2008, 03:34
Ohio goes to Obama, CNN says.
Luna Amore
05-11-2008, 03:34
Arizona is being called as tied - has a candidate ever lost their home state?Al Gore?
The Jaran Peoples
05-11-2008, 03:34
well then, an old crazy war maniac who's diying on us, or the insane tard who dosnt no what hes doing, as well as being socialist... theres allways Ralph Nadar