NationStates Jolt Archive

It’s 12:01 EST and now officially ELECTION DAY! And here is, what I hope will be, the official NSG presidential election tracking thread:

As of the most recent update, the electoral vote spread is:

Obama: 298
McCain: 135

11:00 CNN has called Virginia, Oregon, Washington and California for Obama. CNN announces Barack Obama will be the next president of the united states
10:25 CNN has called Mississippi and Texas for McCain 207 to 135
10:10 CNN has called Arkansas for McCain. 207 to 95
10:00 CNN has called Iowa for Obama and Kansas and Utah for McCain. 207 to 89
9:50 CNN has called New Mexico for Obama and Louisiana for McCain
9:35 CNN has called Ohio for Obama. 194 to 69. Obama has essentially won the presidency.
9:25 CNN has called West Virgina for McCain. 174 to 69
9:15 CNN has called Georgia for McCain. 174 to 64.
9:00 PM CNN has called Rhode Island, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and New York for Obama. Wyoming and North Dakota for McCain
9:00 PM CNN has called Alabama for McCain. 102 to 43
8:40 PM CNN has called Pennsylvania for Obama. Now 102 to 34
8:30 PM CNN has called New Hampshire for Obama. +4 to 81 to 34
8:05 PM numerous calls. 77 to 34 Obama
8 PM CNN has called South Carolina for McCain. Score updated
7 PM CNN has called Vermont for Obama and Kentucky for McCain. Score updated

Below is the list of states (and DC) in alphabetical order. I will be updating as states are called, beginning at 7 PM EST. I will be watching CNN for those wishing to join me:

Alabama (9) - McCain
Alaska (3)
Arizona (10)
Arkansas (6) - McCain
California (55) - Obama
Colorado (9)
Connecticut (7) - Obama
Delaware (3) - Obama
District of Columbia (3) - Obama
Florida (27)
Georgia (15) - McCain
Hawaii (4)
Idaho (4)
Illinois (21) - Obama
Indiana (11)
Iowa (7) - Obama
Kansas (6) - McCain
Kentucky (8) - McCain
Louisiana (9) - McCain
Maine (4) - Obama
Maryland (10) - Obama
Massachusetts (12) - Obama
Michigan (17) - Obama
Minnesota (10) - Obama
Mississippi (7) - McCain
Missouri (11)
Montana (3)
Nebraska (5)
Nevada (5)
New Hampshire (4) - Obama
New Jersey (15) - Obama
New Mexico (5) - Obama
New York (31) - Obama
North Carolina (15)
North Dakota (3) - McCain
Ohio (20) - Obama
Oklahoma (7) - McCain
Oregon (7) - Obama
Pennsylvania (21) - Obama
Rhode Island (4) - Obama
South Carolina (8) - McCain
South Dakota (3)
Tennessee (11) - McCain
Texas (34) - McCain
Utah (5) - McCain
Vermont (3) - Obama
Virginia (13) - Obama
Washington (11) - Obama
West Virginia (5) - Obama
Wisconsin (10) - Obama
Wyoming (3) - Obama

Excellent composition.
I'll most likely be joining you in watching.

I want McCain to win....Gonna be a LONG night and a LONGER 4 years. :(

...you were watching the second hand on your clock to post this first, wern't you?


Good website that I will be using to follow all kinds of stuff:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/election-results-electora_n_139361.html

Yeehaa!!!!!! :D

<--- voted two weeks ago.

...you were watching the second hand on your clock to post this first, wern't you?

better (http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java)

I'm actually going to skip class today.
1. Because I'm completely apathetic to the OT program now, and I'm not coming back for Spring of '09, so why even bother anymore.
2. I have to send my research proposal to three people who'll look at the rough draft and get back to me on it.
3. House M.D. Marathon on USA
4. I have to vote.

I want McCain to win....Gonna be a LONG night and a LONGER 4 years. :(

We had to deal with Dubya for 8 years, so even on the off chance that Obama ends up being incompetent, we'll be pretty used to it.

And at least he won't torture, illegally spy on us, try to suspend habeas corpus, and generally shit all over our constitutional rights like Bush likes to do.

It rocks that Arizona is only 'lean' McCain...I mean, it'll go McCain, but it's still awesome.

We had to deal with Dubya for 8 years, so even on the off chance that Obama ends up being incompetent, we'll be pretty used to it.

And at least he won't torture, illegally spy on us, try to suspend habeas corpus, and generally shit all over our constitutional rights like Bush likes to do.

I doubt Obama is going to give up all the power Government has gained under the Bush administration though.

We had to deal with Dubya for 8 years, so even on the off chance that Obama ends up being incompetent, we'll be pretty used to it.

And at least he won't torture, illegally spy on us, try to suspend habeas corpus, and generally shit all over our constitutional rights like Bush likes to do.We hope.

I want McCain to win....Gonna be a LONG night and a LONGER 4 years. :(

Your turn.

so its the American election that woke me up...go to sleep dangit I have to get ready to work for the glory of the British crown in an hour!

also McCain is going to win* and Santa isn't real *steals your presents*

*I have my doubts about the US being ready for Obama and this is not due to race

Guys, remember the forum rule, there is to be NO GLOATING. This thread is for objective, dispassionate results.

I think it's going to be tight.. unless the many ppl supposibly supporting McCain .. secretely vote Obama..

And then I have to worry about his ass getting assassinated.. and not by a dumb ass redneck.. but our own Gov or a major power holder in someway.

BTW I do not think JFK was killed by some lone jerk. So if you do, maybe you will believe that IF .. God forbid something like that happens to Obama, it was a loner or a racist.

If Obama does get killed .. yay to you yankees in the great white north and out in the n mid s west boondocks.. I'll (plus many) be slap dab in the middle of shit.. but I'll hold my own.

better (http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java)

Nerd :)

By the way, there is one other aspect about PA that you didn't mention: There is minimal early voting. This means that, aside from military and absentee ballots, every voter votes tomorrow. This means that they can, in theory, be swayed up untill the very last second.


And, as a nit pick, CT only as a "likely Obama"? Really? Hartford Courant had them at +25 Obama as of 10/22. Since June, the lowest lead was +12, and that was months ago.

There's some good analysis on FiveThirtyEight.com too

guys, remember the forum rule, there is to be no gloating. This thread is for objective, dispassionate results.

not

this thread sucks due to is title not including "tuesday pancake rain"

Guys, remember the forum rule, there is to be NO GLOATING. This thread is for objective, dispassionate results.


You know gloating WILL happen. Hell, if McCain happens to win I will gloat all day long! I just don't think you can prevent gloating.

this thread sucks due to is title not including "tuesday pancake rain"

Tellin' ya...

It’s 12:01 EST and now officially ELECTION DAY! And here is, what I hope will be, the official NSG presidential election tracking thread:

As of the most recent update, the electoral vote spread is:

Obama: 0
McCain: 0


I want a recount! :tongue:

Good thread.

I'm actually going to skip class today.
1. Because I'm completely apathetic to the OT program now, and I'm not coming back for Spring of '09, so why even bother anymore.
2. I have to send my research proposal to three people who'll look at the rough draft and get back to me on it.
3. House M.D. Marathon on USA
4. I have to vote.

If you don't dig the job don't do it, especially in a healthcare field. You need to or should enjoy what you will be doing. You are dealing with people who need your help and compassion.

Guys, remember the forum rule, there is to be NO GLOATING. This thread is for objective, dispassionate results.

Oh you know people will gloat, they will. People break rules all the time.

You know gloating WILL happen. Hell, if McCain happens to win I will gloat all day long! I just don't think you can prevent gloating.

Self control, and repercussions from the mods if you do. Not that hard to not gloat on the forums, or in life in general.

Guys, remember the forum rule, there is to be NO GLOATING. This thread is for objective, dispassionate results.Not even a Stewie Griffin one-liner? :p
Kidding, kidding.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ov-pT1x-W8Y/SQ-BTajVcJI/AAAAAAAADCs/OIOtzuHoWu8/S1600-R/1103b_scenario.png

Self control, and repercussions from the mods if you do. Not that hard to not gloat on the forums, or in life in general.


You expect too much out of people. :)

If you don't dig the job don't do it, especially in a healthcare field. You need to or should enjoy what you will be doing. You are dealing with people who need your help and compassion.

Yea, that's why I'm going into research, I love working with as few people as possible, and I love to have as much autonomy as I can get. I used to do research in undergrad, and I actually enjoyed it, so I'm going back to it.

Anyways, back on topic.

btw, last chance to add yourselves to the list of people i will gloat over for being embarrassingly wrong in predicting both the electoral vote (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=568842) and the composition of the 111th congress (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=571179)

Yea, that's why I'm going into research, I love working with as few people as possible, and I love to have as much autonomy as I can get. I used to do research in undergrad, and I actually enjoyed it, so I'm going back to it.

Anyways, back on topic.

Research work is awesome I bet. I'd dig that myself. Wish ya well. :wink:

My wife sent her absentee vote early last week. So Obama has at least 1 vote already, in Arizona no less.

There'll be nothing really resultwise until tomorrow afternoon, my time. At least that's when the stations here will switch to the US ones they made a deal with for the live coverage.

I took the day off work tomorrow, so I'll be watching.

There'll be nothing really resultwise until tomorrow afternoon, my time.

welcome to the future! (http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20081103-NEWS-81104001)

dixville notch, nh
obama 15
mccain 6

No gloating? Puh. OBAMA WINS! OBAMA WINS!

I can't wait to walk around giggling for like a week straight.

I had jury duty this week, so I sent in an absentee ballot. Turns out courts aren't in session on election day, and I wasn't chosen for the jury anyway. Oh, well. Better to be more prepared than necessary instead of facing the unforseen.

I voted Chuck Baldwin for president. There won't be any real substantive change from either major party candidate, and I will not go on record as trying to choose whether D or R was less evil. They both scare me.

Oh you know people will gloat, they will. People break rules all the time.

And we catch 'em some of the time. You have to consider whether you want to be the one for whom "all the time" and "some of the time" intersect.

And we catch 'em some of the time. You have to consider whether you want to be the one for whom "all the time" and "some of the time" intersect.

Hehe, she said intersect.

Well, I'll certainly be watching as attentively as I can around a 12 hour school day. Though I may end up skipping one of my classes to cast my ballot depending on how bad the line is.

So guys, "stuck in line to vote"... valid excuse for missing an algebra exam or not? :D

Well, I'll certainly be watching as attentively as I can around a 12 hour school day. Though I may end up skipping one of my classes to cast my ballot depending on how bad the line is.

So guys, "stuck in line to vote"... valid excuse for missing an algebra exam or not? :D

There is never an excuse to miss an algebra exam. Algebra > voting.

Well, I'll certainly be watching as attentively as I can around a 12 hour school day. Though I may end up skipping one of my classes to cast my ballot depending on how bad the line is.

So guys, "stuck in line to vote"... valid excuse for missing an algebra exam or not? :D

I'm sure there's a very simple formula where all you would have to do is solve for X to figure out the cost/benefit ratio.

Unfortunatly, I not only skipped my algebra exam, but the whole damn class, so you are on your own.

There is never an excuse to miss an algebra exam. Algebra > voting.
Well, good thing then that the class I'll most likely wind up missing is 3-D Media and Design! :p Ye gads, I wish I didn't have class tomorrow so I could watch this thing unfold.

I left work at 1130 tonight (last night now, I guess). The news said that there were people already queuing to vote, in Atlanta....

Well, good thing then that the class I'll most likely wind up missing is 3-D Media and Design! :p Ye gads, I wish I didn't have class tomorrow so I could watch this thing unfold.

I wish I did not have to work. Unfortunately I ran out of freebies to call in and am in dangerous "call in one more time and I could get fired" territory. :(

And we catch 'em some of the time. You have to consider whether you want to be the one for whom "all the time" and "some of the time" intersect.

In the Justice system of NationStates General, the people are represented by two distinct and completely unequal groups-the people who bitch and moan, and the moderators who actually have to do shit about it.

These are their stories...

I sent in my ballot around the beginning of October so I can sit back, relax, and watch the circus when I wake up tomorrow.

I am amused that once again, Nevada has been put into a position where it could decide the presidency.

welcome to the future! (http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20081103-NEWS-81104001)

dixville notch, nh
obama 15
mccain 6


I like the CNN news on it. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/dixville.notch/index.html?section=cnn_latest

I particularly like this little tidbit:

It was the first time since 1968 that the village leaned Democratic in an election.

So it looks like good predictions for tomorrow where this election is going. Consequently the same village voted for Bush last election cycle. So it's intresting enough.

HEY MODS!!!! CAN WE GET A STICKY FOR THE DAY??? (maybe two weeks if a year 2000 happens again)

I get off work at 7:00 am CST, and will be going straight from here to my polling place...

...after that, I'm going to the Dem headquarters and volunteering to drive voters to their polling place for a couple of hours. Following that, I sleep...since I work at 11pm, and hopefully will awake to good news. :)

Unfortunately something went wrong with my absentee ballot, so I didn't manage to throw my vote away for the Arab candidate. =/

Unfortunately something went wrong with my absentee ballot, so I didn't manage to throw my vote away for the Arab candidate. =/

Clearly the error on the ballot was that you tried to vote for Obama. If you had voted McCain it would have gone through, you only have yourself to blame.

Clearly the error on the ballot was that you tried to vote for Obama. If you had voted McCain it would have gone through, you only have yourself to blame.Apart from me not receiving a ballot in the first place, Obama's not the Arab candidate.

Apart from me not receiving a ballot in the first place, Obama's not the Arab candidate.

According to this unsourced e-mail I got he is!

According to this unsourced e-mail I got he is!Well, allow me to enlighten you. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_nader)

Yes, only one more day and the madness is over!

Well, allow me to enlighten you. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_nader)
Voted for him twice.

Voted for him twice.You voted for an Arab! You terrorist! =P
I was surprised when I found out.

Yes, only one more day and the madness is over!

One more day and the election madness is over. Then the results madness begins, and will continue for about 4 years.

Hey, so what time is it in America now? Morning some time I'm guessing..

Oh, and super cool sticky!

Hey, so what time is it in America now? Morning some time I'm guessing..

Oh, and super cool sticky!

5-8am, I think. It varies, Merrika is a big place.


Also, Obama has an early, but tiny, lead.
In the first voting of the day, Mr Obama defeated his rival by 15 votes to six in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire.
.......
Another small New Hampshire town with a tradition of polls opening at midnight, Hart's Location, has also gone for Mr Obama by 17 votes to 10.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/us_elections_2008/7707581.stm

Tiny New Hampshire towns: Voting at the speed of light since the 40s.

5-8am, I think. It varies, Merrika is a big place.

One of those places with more than ONE time zones?! Crazy...

But cool, by tomorrow morning my time things should be getting interesting. How exciting!

I am all kinds of excited -- this is the first presidential election I am old enough to vote in, so of course I exercised my right. However, I am so bloody sick and tired of the whole thing that I'm probably going to watch Futurama most of the evening and only tune in occasionally for poll closings. This thread may keep me more active than I otherwise would have been -- thanks!

I am also excited. My mom is working the polls as poll worker. Basically she processes the voters into the booths. She does it every year as a volunteer. It's going to be a long day for her. She's going in in about another hour (6 AM PST) and won't be home till after 7 PM PST.

I am also excited. My mom is working the polls as poll worker. Basically she processes the voters into the booths. She does it every year as a volunteer. It's going to be a long day for her. She's going in in about another hour (6 AM PST) and won't be home till after 7 PM PST.Those ballots don't shred themselves! =D

I voted, only had to wait briefly. Though by the time I was done there was a line forming. Only two voting machines at my polling place.

Those ballots don't shred themselves! =D

Roflcopter.

Good that.

I voted two hours ago. There was quite a line.

I voted two hours ago. There was quite a line.Long Island being part of fake America may have something to do with it =P

Oh, any recommendations on good websites to follow the election results on?

Oh, any recommendations on good websites to follow the election results on?

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com

Oh, any recommendations on good websites to follow the election results on?

allegedly the great orange satan's electoral scoreboard map (http://scoreboard.dailykos.com/map/) should be doing awesomeness - covering pres, senate, house, govs, and also allowing comparisons with previous years.



also, ssp put together this map (http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3641) of poll closings:
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr174/sspenight/map590ek2.gif

They tried to make me vote provisional! They tried to make me vote provisional!

Fortunately, with my acute legal acumen, I spun them around, poked them in the rear, and lit their hair on fire through using the Chewbacca defense.

Well, I'll certainly be watching as attentively as I can around a 12 hour school day. Though I may end up skipping one of my classes to cast my ballot depending on how bad the line is.

So guys, "stuck in line to vote"... valid excuse for missing an algebra exam or not? :D

There is never an excuse to miss an algebra exam. Algebra > voting.
Not true!! You can always negotiate a make-up test with your teacher. You can't do that with the Board of Elections.

Do your civic duty, citizen. Dammit.

I voted early, but I already know McCain's going to get Wyoming. We're known for being one of the more conservative states. Though I voted Obama, and I know a lot of university students that have, we're only a small portion of the populus.

Hubby went when the polls opened, had to wait an hour and a half....saw a bunch of LGTBS shirts so that makes me hopeful. I'm about to go and vote. I'll report back about the turn out.

(In case any of you actually care, I recently moved into Sally Kern's District, we're hoping out oust her, she's actually running against someone this time! Yay! Also, every time I've been to vote here I've gone near closing and there have only been 4 people in to vote (2 being myself and my husband))

Saw a report on the Maddow show that many of this year's "in play" states have not been "in play" battlegrounds before, have not had to deal with that kind of madness, and may not be prepared for the heavier than normal turnouts expected. The mayor of Richmond, VA, was on, expressing worry about his state's preparedness for crowds potentially even bigger than the early voting crowds. Things seem shaky, logistics-wise, for Alabama and parts of Colorado, too. One CO official was quoted as saying that, if things don't go perfectly, they might not have a result until well into Wednesday. All that would be because of technical glitches/breakdowns of voting machines, not having enough paper ballots, counting ballots by hand, etc. Seems like we have the potential for several Floridas this time around.

Hopefully that won't happen, but I'll be looking for other things to watch on tv.

I don't have to work today and none of the other things I do have to do can't be put off, so I'll be bringing a book down to the polling place and relaxing. Though I doubt my sleepy little neighborhood, with its high concentration of people ducking outstanding warrants and having no ID, is likely to experience long wait times. My mom, over in commie-Cambridge, cast her vote in less than half an hour.

- This is the first election since 1980 that a Bush or a Clinton hasn't been on the ticket.

- This will be the first time in 40 years that Yale will not have one of its former students on the ballot as president or vice president. Not since Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew battled Hubert H. Humphrey and Edmund Muskie in 1968 has Yale been shut out.

Just a couple of tidbits I found after reading an article on why we vote on Tuesday (agrarian/religious reasons: harvest usually done by November with weather not as bad as it would be later + Sunday for worship, Monday for travel, Tuesday to vote and rest horses, Wednesday for return trip).

Hubby went when the polls opened, had to wait an hour and a half....saw a bunch of LGTBS shirts so that makes me hopeful. I'm about to go and vote. I'll report back about the turn out.

(In case any of you actually care, I recently moved into Sally Kern's District, we're hoping out oust her, she's actually running against someone this time! Yay! Also, every time I've been to vote here I've gone near closing and there have only been 4 people in to vote (2 being myself and my husband))

I know LGBT, but S?

I know LGBT, but S?

I don't... Lets Get Barack There?

I don't... Lets Get Barack There?

Lesbian
Gay
Bisexuals
Transgender

No clue on the S.

I know LGBT, but S?

Sorry, personal joke made public. (One day hubby was watching TBS and my bigot of a mother was like "why are all the gays allowed on TV?" and he told her they were changing the name of the station to LGTBS, and she got all indignant and so now I just keep saying it to piss her off.... and sometimes when I'm sleepy it travels into my brain when I mean LGBT)

I know LGBT, but S?

The S, I believe, means Straight. It's an alliance between all five for equal rights for Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgenders, and Straights, if I remember correctly. This may or may not include the right to marry, instead of the use of civil unions.

Edit: Despite Smunkeeville's explanation, I have seen it both ways: LGBT and LGBTS, where the S indeed meant Straight. I guess it depends on where you go on how it's known.

I sent in my ballot around the beginning of October so I can sit back, relax, and watch the circus when I wake up tomorrow.

I am amused that once again, Nevada has been put into a position where it could decide the presidency.

Heheh. One of the benefits of being an eikawa monkey is I don't have work on Wednesdays... :tongue:

The S, I believe, means Straight. It's an alliance between all five for equal rights for Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgenders, and Straights, if I remember correctly. This may or may not include the right to marry, instead of the use of civil unions.

Edit: Despite Smunkeeville's explanation, I have seen it both ways: LGBT and LGBTS, where the S indeed meant Straight. I guess it depends on where you go on how it's known.

Yeah, I've seen both LGBTS (the S being for straight) and LGBTA (the A being for Ally) (And of course, other orderings of the letters, such as GLBT, or the insertion of Q, etc.) to mean that same basic thing.

I'll be keeping up my fine tradition of being very drunk when the results come in. I hope all here will join me.

I'll be keeping up my fine tradition of being very drunk when the results come in. I hope all here will join me.

I wish I could, but alas, I'd need money for that and I have to work. I just hope that they'll pipe it through where I work or place me somewhere near one of the tvs so I can see the results.

On a side note, I love your L Pic!

I'll be keeping up my fine tradition of being very drunk when the results come in. I hope all here will join me.

Gladly.

I'll be keeping up my fine tradition of being very drunk when the results come in. I hope all here will join me.

I might be actually. Awesome!

Better electoral map:

Navy-blue: Four states in New England (VT, MA, CT, RI) and most of ME (Maine splits it electoral votes by district); four in the Northeast (NY, NJ, DE, MD) plus DC; four in the Great Lakes (MI, IL, WI, MN) and four on the Pacific (WA, OR, CA, HI): carried by Gore and Kerry, practically uncontested by McCain, double-digit for Obama, 226 votes.

Baby-blue: NH (Kerry but not Gore), NM and IA (Gore but not Kerry), PA (both Gore and Kerry, but McCain still tries), and Bangor, Maine (a little less blue than Portland, but McCain has given up on it), all going for Obama but maybe not all by double-digits, 38 votes.

Purple: FL and OH (the recount states) plus VA, CO, NV (were Bush both times but Obama has mostly led), 74 votes. Obama needs only Nevada (to make 269-269, and the Democrats control the House) if he sweeps the blue. If McCain takes away Pennsylvania: that would not make up for losing Florida (game over; and Crist is not in the mood to pull any shenanigans like Jeb); would barely make up for losing Ohio (Obama would then need either Virginia or Colorado; Nevada would no longer do); and even if McCain has PA+FL+OH, Obama wins with VA+CO+NV. As a practical matter, Obama is favored to sweep them all.

White: NC, IN, MO, MT, ND are within margin of error, 43 votes. If Obama overperforms his polls by 3-4% (and McCain underperforms by 4-5% with losses to 3rd parties as well as stay-homes), which I expect, he could sweep all the white states too, bringing him to 381.

Pink: WV had one poll where Obama led, but has gone back red; the Omaha district of NE now has more registered Dems than Reps (Nebraska Democrats are, of course, not like eastern Democrats; but those newly-registered folks might be all Obama votes); GA (heavy black turnout) and AZ (McCain's home state!) are closing fast; 31 votes, but Obama will get few.

Crimson: SD, AR, MS, LA, TX are only single-digit for McCain by some indicators, and so may show up pink on some maps, but he is not going to lose any of these.

Maroon: SC, KY, TN, AL in the Deep South; OK, KS, most of NE, WY, ID, UT, AK in the West are double-digit McCain romps.

Question to all:

What do you think Black America will do if Obama loses?

What do you think Black America will do if Obama is killed?

The S, I believe, means Straight. It's an alliance between all five for equal rights for Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgenders, and Straights, if I remember correctly. This may or may not include the right to marry, instead of the use of civil unions.

Edit: Despite Smunkeeville's explanation, I have seen it both ways: LGBT and LGBTS, where the S indeed meant Straight. I guess it depends on where you go on how it's known.

It's alphabet soup. Seriously.

I've seen:
/ = Intersex
I = Intersex
Q = Queer, Questioning
? = Questioning
F = Fag
U = Unsure
2 = Two Spirit
A = Asexual, Ally
T = Transgender, Transexual, Trans, Two Spirit
TS = Transexual
S = Straight
SA = Straight Ally

Question to all:

What do you think Black America will do if Obama loses?

What do you think Black America will do if Obama is killed?

Lament.
Mourn.

Lament.
Mourn.
You don't see race riots? It would be historically accurate to assume so.

You don't see race riots? It would be historically accurate to assume so.

Maybe if there were some context to the conditions of his defeat and supposed assassination. I think you are either a brutal pessimist or simply a shit-disturber.

You don't see race riots? It would be historically accurate to assume so.

I think, in the case of Obama losing the election, if there was any threat of said race riots, Obama would speak out pretty strongly against them. Which I tend to think would help keep a lid on the negative responses.

If he got assassinated, shit would hit the fan.

Maybe if there were some context to the conditions of his defeat and supposed assassination. I think you are either a brutal pessimist or simply a shit-disturber.

Woah woah woah, don't jump to conclusions. Maybe I'm just a realist who thinks about all outcomes, especially historically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_race_riots#Civil_Rights_and_Black_Power_Movement.27s_Period:_1955_-_1977)accurate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_race_riots#Modern)outcomes

You don't see race riots? It would be historically accurate to assume so.

It would also be historically accurate to assume that no black man and no woman would ever come close to the White House. Seems that we may have actually made progress and managed to take a step away from some of the darker moments of our history.

Question to all:

What do you think Black America will do if Obama loses?

What do you think Black America will do if Obama is killed?

I'm sure his black supports will not be pleased in either case. McCain's black supporters will be pleased in the first case, some will have the decency to feel bad that Obama died in between feeling good that McCain wins be default now, probably.

It would also be historically accurate to assume that no black man and no woman would ever come close to the White House. Seems that we may have actually made progress and managed to take a step away from some of the darker moments of our history.
Meh. I could give a shit if he's black or white. I vote on policies and I couldn't stand all the blacks** in line with me waiting to vote actually STATING out loud that they didn't know exactly what he stood for but were voting for him to 'represent' and because it was 'cool' and all that.



**Not limited to Blacks though. I know many Whites who are voting for him for exactly those same ridiculous 'reasons'.

Meh. I could give a shit if he's black or white.

Don't you mean "couldn't"?

Don't you mean "couldn't"?

I mean what I say and I say what I mean.

I mean what I say and I say what I mean.

So you do care whether Obama is black or white? How racist.

So you do care whether Obama is black or white? How racist.
I care that he's not Purple and Blue.

So you do care whether Obama is black or white? How racist.

Does this surprise you?

So you do care whether Obama is black or white? How racist.

I'm shocked.

Does this surprise you?

It surprises me that he's admitting that over claiming that he just misused a common phrase.

It surprises me that he's admitting that over claiming that he just misused a common phrase.

It was obviously an error and if you would have read it in context with my post, notably the part that comes after that says I vote on issues, or the part that comes after that which says I hate how people vote for him just because of his skin color, you could have easily figured that out.

Not to mention that I replied to you with this...which obviously shows I'm joking.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14166795&postcount=102

Sheesh. You people will jump at anything.

It surprises me that he's admitting that over claiming that he just misused a common phrase.

After his years of EVIL BROWN PEOPLE!!!!!! threads an admission of racism doesn't surprise me at all.

Yay! Yet another "TAI is a racist" threadjack!

You don't see race riots? It would be historically accurate to assume so.

Since a black person has never before become POTUS, there is no historical precedent available.

There is historical precedent for his assassination.

It was obviously an error and if you would have read it in context with my post, notably the part that comes after that says I vote on issues, or the part that comes after that which says I hate how people vote for him just because of his skin color, you could have easily figured that out.

The fact that it didn't make sense within the context of your post is why I pointed it out. That and the fact that people seem to have taken to saying "I could care less" instead of saying "I couldn't care less", something which annoys me a little.

I hope we're not going to waste too many pages humoring someone getting hypothetically indignant at a groups hypothetical reaction to a hypothetical situation...it just seems...silly...
They tried to make me vote provisional! They tried to make me vote provisional!

Fortunately, with my acute legal acumen, I spun them around, poked them in the rear, and lit their hair on fire through using the Chewbacca defense.
Details would be awesome.
You voted for an Arab! You terrorist! =P
I was surprised when I found out.

You don't watch enough M*A*S*H...


Go ahead, figure that one out...

I voted today, I was tempted to vote straight ticket, but I noticed that there weren't Libertarians on some of the ballots, so I declined and voted separately.

So guys, "stuck in line to vote"... valid excuse for missing an algebra exam or not? :Dit will be if you get the Algebra teacher involved in the election!

In the Justice system of NationStates General, the people are represented by two distinct and completely unequal groups-the people who bitch and moan, and the moderators who actually have to do shit about it.

These are their stories...
dammit! now I got the stupid theme song running in my head!

dammit! now I got the stupid theme song running in my head!

I'm pretty sure that the NSG theme song is actually Yakkity Sax.

Yep, Ill be back here tonight guys. Kind of pointless until then :p

I'm pretty sure that the NSG theme song is actually Yakkity Sax.

Try here comes the clowns.

So guys, "stuck in line to vote"... valid excuse for missing an algebra exam or not? :D

who puts an exam on election day?

who puts an exam on election day?

Math teachers.

Try here comes the clowns.

It's Send in the Clowns, and it's a sad, sad song.
Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground,
You in mid-air.
Send in the clowns.

Isn't it bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around,
One who can't move.
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns.

Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours,
Making my entrance again with my usual flair,
Sure of my lines,
No one is there.

Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother, they're here.

Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer,
Losing my timing this late
In my career?
And where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns.
Well, maybe next year.
Now, Thunder and Blazes (Entry of the Gladiators) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAqjZtUHvCk), perhaps...

It was obviously an error and if you would have read it in context with my post, notably the part that comes after that says I vote on issues, or the part that comes after that which says I hate how people vote for him just because of his skin color, you could have easily figured that out.

Not to mention that I replied to you with this...which obviously shows I'm joking.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14166795&postcount=102

Sheesh. You people will jump at anything.
*jumps*

Oh, any recommendations on good websites to follow the election results on?

I can follow up that with: Any recommendations on any streaming video or online shows that's worth looking at?

i'm pretty sure that the nsg theme song is actually yakkity sax.

gahhh... Now i got both songs running round at the same time!!!

Details would be awesome.




I referenced more specific details in the "How long did it take you to vote thread" as well, but here's what I said there:

"Because I've moved recently, so the address on my license is not the same as my current registered address. In Ohio, though, if you use your drivers license, you don't need its address on it to be accurate. I argued with them about it." I made them read their own damn rule book, and got a significant mea culpa out of it.

I referenced more specific details in the "How long did it take you to vote thread" as well, but here's what I said there:

"Because I've moved recently, so the address on my license is not the same as my current registered address. In Ohio, though, if you use your drivers license, you don't need its address on it to be accurate. I argued with them about it." I made them read their own damn rule book, and got a significant mea culpa out of it.

Awesome.

I referenced more specific details in the "How long did it take you to vote thread" as well, but here's what I said there:

"Because I've moved recently, so the address on my license is not the same as my current registered address. In Ohio, though, if you use your drivers license, you don't need its address on it to be accurate. I argued with them about it." I made them read their own damn rule book, and got a significant mea culpa out of it.

Did they let you vote twice in compensation?

Did they let you vote twice in compensation?

Haha...if only. Then I could have registered a vote for Bob Barr (not to be confused with Bob's Bar: The Cultural Hub of the Midwest (http://columbus.citysearch.com/profile/7862615/columbus_oh/bob_s_bar.html)) to go with my Barry Obama vote.

Awesome.

It was awesome. Me versus three poll workers, all of them totally certain that they were right. You should have seen the look on the guy's face when he actually read what the rules were from the rule book. It was sooooo incredibly worth it.

Math teachers.

REPUBLICAN Maths teachers [/Tinfoil hat]

It was awesome. Me versus three poll workers, all of them totally certain that they were right. You should have seen the look on the guy's face when he actually read what the rules were from the rule book. It was sooooo incredibly worth it.

And more importantly, when the situation comes up for future voters, they will get to cast their votes, too. You did a great thing!

REPUBLICAN Maths teachers [/Tinfoil hat]

I actually wouldn't be surprised if a Republican teacher did that. Anybody remember that Virginia Tech guy that told students that they'd lose financial aid, dependency status, and such things if they voted at their school? I mean, he later claimed he just misinterpreted the law, but come on. We all know that he was trying to suppress the student vote for Obama. As far as I know, there is no law that could possibly be interpreted in the way he claims.

REPUBLICAN Maths teachers [/Tinfoil hat]
What is this nonsense. Everyone knows that teachers are leftists.

Here's my breakdown of states of relevance, 9 states total, into three catagories. Assuming Obama keep new hampshire, iowa and new mexico. The catagories are "A: Big States", "B: Little States" and "C: Desperation States:

A: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida

B: Virginia, Colorado, Nevada

C: North Carolina, Missouri, Indiana

Here's how it breaks down: If Obama wins any 2 from group A, he wins. If he wins all 3 from group B, he wins. If he wins one from A and one from B, he wins except for an OH/NV paring which gets him 268. If Obama fails to win 2 from A, or all 3 from B, or 1 from each (excepting Ohio/Nevada), he has to resort to his "desperation" states. Should he fail to win any from A, he will need any one from B, and any two from C. And, if things get really desperate, and he doesn't win ANY from A and ANY from B, if he picks up North Carolina, and either Missouri or Indiana, he wins by tie.

So Obama wins if he does any of the following: 2+ from A. 1 from A 1 from B (except OH/NV paring). 3 from B, 2 from B and 1 from C.

If he picks up the OH/NV paring, any other state will do it. If he fails to pick up any states from either A or B, but picks up North Carolina, any either Missouri or North Carolina.

So the break down is as follows, ANY of these paths will lead him to victory, assuming New Mexico, New Hampshire, and Iowa stay where they are:

Ohio and Pennsylvania
Ohio and Florida
Florida and Pennsylvania
any one of (Florida or Pennsylvania) and any one of (Virginia, Colorado, Nevada)
Ohio and any one of (Virginia, Colorado)
Ohio, Nevada, and anything else
Virginia, Colorado, and Nevada
Any two of (Virginia, Colorado, Nevada) and any one of (Missouri, North Carolina, Indiana)
North Carolina and any one of (Virginia, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania)

Of these combination, Obama is leading in Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, and Pennsylvania, making the bolded choices the ones I see most likely to occur.

*snip*

Neo, when do you expect early results to start coming through for these states? Hours, days? Weeks??

Neo, when do you expect early results to start coming through for these states? Hours, days? Weeks??

Of the scenarios that I believe are most likely victory for Obama, the one we're most likely to see first is a Pennsylvania and Virginia win. VA closes at 7 PM EST and Pennsylvania closes at 8 PM EST. Since Obama is leading in both of those states, and both of them will more or less clinch the win for Obama, if we get early results from them, the night COULD be pretty much decided by 10 or 11 pm EST tonight. If one of those states doesn't go Obama's way, and he fails to carry the other east coast swing states like Florida Ohio and North Carolina (or Ohio and Florida come down the wire and tak eall night as is very likely) we could be in for a long night waiting for the results in Colorado and Nevada.

My hope is that we're done by 11, with a PA/VA win for Obama. The rest of the states would need to be counted, but barring some ludicrous upset by McCain, if PA/VA both go Obama's way early in the evening, we'll be pretty much done.

What is this nonsense. Everyone knows that teachers are leftists.

The new ones are. The old school(>.> <.<) ones are as republican as the day is long.

It's official: the weather is having an impact on the election. Some voting machines in Chesapeake, Virginia, have not been working properly after rain-soaked ballot papers played havoc with electronic scanners.

That was a problem I didn't anticipate seeing!

Of the scenarios that I believe are most likely victory for Obama, the one we're most likely to see first is a Pennsylvania and Virginia win. VA closes at 7 PM EST and Pennsylvania closes at 8 PM EST. Since Obama is leading in both of those states, and both of them will more or less clinch the win for Obama, if we get early results from them, the night COULD be pretty much decided by 10 or 11 pm EST tonight. If one of those states doesn't go Obama's way, and he fails to carry the other east coast swing states like Florida Ohio and North Carolina (or Ohio and Florida come down the wire and tak eall night as is very likely) we could be in for a long night waiting for the results in Colorado and Nevada.

My hope is that we're done by 11, with a PA/VA win for Obama. The rest of the states would need to be counted, but barring some ludicrous upset by McCain, if PA/VA both go Obama's way early in the evening, we'll be pretty much done.

I see, and that's like what.. 12-14 hours from now right? Sorry I'm just trying to coordinate when I need to watch tv! I guess it's hard though with so many damn possibilities. I must say you're doing a good job of explaining in a way which makes it easy to understand for someone with limited knowledge of the American system!

On a completely unrelated note, guy fawkes will coincide with the result-that's pretty cool!

I see, and that's like what.. 12-14 hours from now right? Sorry I'm just trying to coordinate when I need to watch tv! I guess it's hard though with so many damn possibilities. I must say you're doing a good job of explaining in a way which makes it easy to understand for someone with limited knowledge of the American system!

On a completely unrelated note, guy fawkes will coincide with the result-that's pretty cool!

10 PM EST is...8.5 hours from now. It is now just before 1:30.

10 PM EST is...8.5 hours from now. It is now just before 1:30.

Fuck. When I last had CNN on it was early morning. But time passes quickly when you're doing nothing. Alas, I can get some sleep in.

Fuck. When I last had CNN on it was early morning. But time passes quickly when you're doing nothing. Alas, I can get some sleep in.

And I have a class around the same time some of the early results come out. Almost around 7 PM PST. So no hanging around CNN for me. *sighs*

UK bookmaker Ladbrokes is still accepting bets on this election, and has just accepted a £60,000 ($96,000) bet - at odds of 1/6 - on Obama winning.

I want McCain to win....Gonna be a LONG night and a LONGER 4 years. :(

It has been a long 8 years for me so well boo hoo for you.

I'm confused about the technical terms... What would constitute a "landslide"? How many electoral votes?

I'm confused about the technical terms... What would constitute a "landslide"? How many electoral votes?

my understanding, 350+ or 375+ depending on who you ask.

Some body is going around handing out plungers hahaha it is hilarious.

while we're waiting for the first set of results...

a bit of humor.
http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-11-04.gif

And more importantly, when the situation comes up for future voters, they will get to cast their votes, too. You did a great thing!

What concerns me is that this is seeming to be somewhat widespread, if for no other reason than the poll workers are morons who didn't pay attention during training. What concerns me more is that other people might be faced with the same thing, and are less aggressive and argumentative than I am, and just accept the provisional ballot.

Meh. I could give a shit if he's black or white. I vote on policies and I couldn't stand all the blacks** in line with me waiting to vote actually STATING out loud that they didn't know exactly what he stood for but were voting for him to 'represent' and because it was 'cool' and all that.



**Not limited to Blacks though. I know many Whites who are voting for him for exactly those same ridiculous 'reasons'.
You might not...but the fact remains, if we are looking to history to predict today/the future, then Obama should be losing. Historical president of race wars does not mean that there will be a race war in the case of loss or assassination, just as historical president of white male presidents doesn't mean there will be one today.
my understanding, 350+ or 375+ depending on who you ask.
I've always been told 375+

Also, Neo...consider throwing this link up on the first page:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/election-results-electora_n_139361.html
It has poll closing times for the US, probabilities from Betfair, intrade odds by state, Google Maps thing for president, senate, and house elections, CNN, MSNBC, and CBS's election maps (no fox, but the link is from huffington post. No shock there), and live streams of MSNBC and CBS. sort of a clearing house of information.

And with that, I'm off to vote :)


Also, don't forget, Free Starbucks coffee if you voted today! I don't care if you hate Starbucks...it's free coffee. And look at it as a chance to damage their bottom line.

Also, don't forget, Free Starbucks coffee if you voted today! I don't care if you hate Starbucks...it's free coffee. And look at it as a chance to damage their bottom line.

My thoughts exactly. Even though Starbucks usually burns their coffee, hopefully they won't today because everyone voted, and then they are processing their coffee so quickly, they don't have time to burn it.

Coffee=good.

Also, don't forget, Free Starbucks coffee if you voted today! I don't care if you hate Starbucks...it's free coffee. And look at it as a chance to damage their bottom line.

My thoughts exactly. Even though Starbucks usually burns their coffee, hopefully they won't today because everyone voted, and then they are processing their coffee so quickly, they don't have time to burn it.

Coffee=good.

Just on the news, there was concern that it would violate a law against 'buying votes' and so now they, along with Dunkin' Donuts and Ben & Jerry's are giving free stuff just if you ask. But they still want you to vote.

Just on the news, there was concern that it would violate a law against 'buying votes' and so now they, along with Dunkin' Donuts and Ben & Jerry's are giving free stuff just if you ask. But they still want you to vote.

What's Dunkin giving away?

What's Dunkin giving away?

fortune cookies.

Well, I got to my polling location at about 7:30 this morning to find a line of 30-50 people ahead of me. Took about 45 minutes, but I was able to get my vote cast before the algebra exam.

I had to grin about one of my classmates though. She's a slightly older woman who came here from the Ukraine and she just got her US citizenship in May, so this is her first election and she was just totally excited about the whole thing this morning.

I might take advantage of the B&J's freebie. I don't like coffee, but I do love ice cream! :D

Meh Krispy Kreme is better.

I thought voting would be amazingly awesome... but it felt a bit like a multiple-choice test.

I thought voting would be amazingly awesome... but it felt a bit like a multiple-choice test.

It is a m-c test where the questions are completely opinionated and where the outcome is predetermined by the answers on the blanks. Oh, and pretty much, the Electoral College has the choice to trump our opinions. Yay...

But hey, at least you get bragging rights that you voted and attempted to make your opinion count. That's what keeps me voting.

Exit Poll numbers are about to come in.

Meh Krispy Kreme is better.

Krispy Kreme is Krap. The Bay Area didn't have a Krispy Kreme forever and then they opened one and everyone lost their fool minds and I was left going, "Was I the only one not having a hard time finding a donut shop?" And then when I tried their nasty nasty oily craptacular assembly donut it made it even worse. Give me a small privately owned donut shop any day, any time, with warm, tasty, mouth-watery donuts. Krispy Kreme is for Klydes.

Exit Poll numbers are about to come in.

Don't get too excited. (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/ten-reasons-why-you-should-ignore-exit.html)

I thought voting would be amazingly awesome... but it felt a bit like a multiple-choice test.
imagine what happens if you marked the wrong answers! :eek:

Exit Poll numbers are about to come in.Don't get too excited. (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/ten-reasons-why-you-should-ignore-exit.html)
Meh, I don't trust exit polls because I lie when someone asks me who I voted for or what I voted for.

imagine what happens if you marked the wrong answers! :eek:

According to my mother my vote for "Obehama" has proven to her that I'm not intelligent enough to vote, because we know that "Obehama" will open the country to the "Iraqueans" and "take over the country for Stalin".

She's voted for "that nice Alaskan girl".

My grandfather voted for "Obehama" because he didn't want a woman for vice president.

According to my mother my vote for "Obehama" has proven to her that I'm not intelligent enough to vote, because we know that "Obehama" will open the country to the "Iraqueans" and "take over the country for Stalin".

She's voted for "that nice Alaskan girl".

My grandfather voted for "Obehama" because he didn't want a woman for vice president.

I know political violence is wrong, but gods it's so tempting some times. People don't have a goddamned clue what they're voting for or against.

According to my mother my vote for "Obehama" has proven to her that I'm not intelligent enough to vote, because we know that "Obehama" will open the country to the "Iraqueans" and "take over the country for Stalin".

She's voted for "that nice Alaskan girl".

My grandfather voted for "Obehama" because he didn't want a woman for vice president.

I'm continually shocked that you're related to your family.

According to my mother my vote for "Obehama" has proven to her that I'm not intelligent enough to vote, because we know that "Obehama" will open the country to the "Iraqueans" and "take over the country for Stalin".

She's voted for "that nice Alaskan girl".

My grandfather voted for "Obehama" because he didn't want a woman for vice president.

more and more posts like this makes me glad you broke away from her influence Smunkee *Zen Hugs*

but I've heard people here say "Don't vote Republican else they'll have all of us working in the plantations."

I know political violence is wrong, but gods it's so tempting some times. People don't have a goddamned clue what they're voting for or against.
I know. It sickens me.
I'm continually shocked that you're related to your family.
Me too. I'm glad I ran away at 15.....maybe if I stayed longer I would have gone on a shooting spree.
more and more posts like this makes me glad you broke away from her influence Smunkee *Zen Hugs*
I just wish....she would stop talking to me.
but I've heard people here say "Don't vote Republican else they'll have all of us working in the plantations."
A lady at the grocery store was telling me to stock up on food because there will be riots if Obama loses and if he wins.

:D I just got someone arrested! Yay! Vindication!

Two days ago I saw someone putting up Sally Kern signs in my condo's yard, and I explained to them that they couldn't put those on private property without permission, so they threw a bitchfit and left them, and I took them down and threw them away.

Then this morning I woke up early to go vote and there were 10 of them! The girls and I pulled them out of the ground and threw them away and went to vote, when we got back.....10 more :mad: so again we pulled them out and threw them away. I saw a police officer while I was doing it and told him what was going on.......well, just now he rang my bell, seems he drove back by and saw the guy putting them up! Haha! Tresspassing! Also, posting political signs within 200 feet of a polling place!

Yay!

I went out and pulled up the signs and threw them away again. ;) There's a huge pile...I found out the security guard has been throwing them out all day too......we have like 50 Sally Kern signs in the dumpster.

Me too. I'm glad I ran away at 15.....maybe if I stayed longer I would have gone on a shooting spree.

As much fun as that would have been, I'm sure it's for the best.

:D I just got someone arrested! Yay! Vindication!

Two days ago I saw someone putting up Sally Kern signs in my condo's yard, and I explained to them that they couldn't put those on private property without permission, so they threw a bitchfit and left them, and I took them down and threw them away.

Then this morning I woke up early to go vote and there were 10 of them! The girls and I pulled them out of the ground and threw them away and went to vote, when we got back.....10 more :mad: so again we pulled them out and threw them away. I saw a police officer while I was doing it and told him what was going on.......well, just now he rang my bell, seems he drove back by and saw the guy putting them up! Haha! Tresspassing! Also, posting political signs within 200 feet of a polling place!

Yay!

I went out and pulled up the signs and threw them away again. ;) There's a huge pile...I found out the security guard has been throwing them out all day too......we have like 50 Sally Kern signs in the dumpster.

On the positive side you have some free firewood.

On the positive side you have some free firewood.

I'm calling the newspaper, it will be a nice photograph, a dumpster full of illegally placed signs.

:D I just got someone arrested! Yay! Vindication!

Two days ago I saw someone putting up Sally Kern signs in my condo's yard, and I explained to them that they couldn't put those on private property without permission, so they threw a bitchfit and left them, and I took them down and threw them away.

Then this morning I woke up early to go vote and there were 10 of them! The girls and I pulled them out of the ground and threw them away and went to vote, when we got back.....10 more :mad: so again we pulled them out and threw them away. I saw a police officer while I was doing it and told him what was going on.......well, just now he rang my bell, seems he drove back by and saw the guy putting them up! Haha! Tresspassing! Also, posting political signs within 200 feet of a polling place!

Yay!

I went out and pulled up the signs and threw them away again. ;) There's a huge pile...I found out the security guard has been throwing them out all day too......we have like 50 Sally Kern signs in the dumpster.

The system works!

On the positive side you have some free firewood.

And, more importantly, the Smunklings have now been blooded in activism.

Tremble, America.

And, more importantly, the Smunklings have now been blooded in activism.

Tremble, America.

Activism will eventually lead to the requirement of a flaming torch. Signs are well suited to this purpose. :p

Did someone fuck up ordering of lawn signs and end up with too many signs sitting in the office on election day or something?

Did someone fuck up ordering of lawn signs and end up with too many signs sitting in the office on election day or something?

Given the proximity to the polling place, it would seem that it was actually a deliberate and concerted effort to try to sway voters, by placing political signs favouring one candidate.

WHich is (I believe) why such is illegal.

so . . .any results in yet?

Wee, election results soonish.

I've got my music playing a super medley of various types of music that all generally mean "OH MY GOD SUPER CRITICAL THYME UPON US!"

Let's do this thang!

Did someone fuck up ordering of lawn signs and end up with too many signs sitting in the office on election day or something?

I just pulled up 23 more. This is almost a fun game! Except people on the way to vote were honking at me and flipping me off.........well, fuck them! If I don't want illegally placed homophobe signs in my yard I can take them down and throw them away all I want!

My dad informs me that even Karl Rove think Obama will win in a landslide. I wonder if McCain is preparing his concession speech yet.

I just pulled up 23 more. This is almost a fun game! Except people on the way to vote were honking at me and flipping me off.........well, fuck them! If I don't want illegally placed homophobe signs in my yard I can take them down and throw them away all I want!

If their just honking at u maybe it was a compliment? *honks approval*

I just pulled up 23 more. This is almost a fun game! Except people on the way to vote were honking at me and flipping me off.........well, fuck them! If I don't want illegally placed homophobe signs in my yard I can take them down and throw them away all I want!

You could sue whoever's doing this for ruining your lawn.

According to my mother my vote for "Obehama" has proven to her that I'm not intelligent enough to vote, because we know that "Obehama" will open the country to the "Iraqueans" and "take over the country for Stalin".

She's voted for "that nice Alaskan girl".

My grandfather voted for "Obehama" because he didn't want a woman for vice president.
*facepalm* *opens liquor cabinet*

You could sue whoever's doing this for ruining your lawn.

OOO and defamation of character too!!!

I just pulled up 23 more. This is almost a fun game! Except people on the way to vote were honking at me and flipping me off.........well, fuck them! If I don't want illegally placed homophobe signs in my yard I can take them down and throw them away all I want!
Pull some out of the trash and paint across them: "PRIVATE PROPERTY" "NO TRESPASSING" "VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED" "THIS MEANS YOU" And fill your lawn back up with those.

You could sue whoever's doing this for ruining your lawn.

I intend to embarrass the local republican party who is behind it and cause them legal problems....you know stemming from the illegality both due to vicinity to the polling place and also trespassing.

I'm not entirely sure that I have any damages, other than being annoyed. I figure I'll annoy them.

I'm calling the newspaper, it will be a nice photograph, a dumpster full of illegally placed signs.

Name dumper!!! ;) :D

Heheh. One of the benefits of being an eikawa monkey is I don't have work on Wednesdays... :tongue:
Sadly I'm at work today. Thankfully though, Wednesdays are light days for me (Well, as light as any day with three ichinensei classes are) so I can check the web for results most of the day and then spend the rest trying to explain America's electoral system to my co-workers who are of course following the election closely as well.

Gotta wonder what Obama-mura will do if Sen. Obama wins though. :D

You could sue whoever's doing this for ruining your lawn.

They're arieting the lawn for her...that'd be funnier if I had any idea how to spell that...seriously Firefox? You thought I was trying to spell "marketing?"

Indiana is ahead for Obama in the way too early to get excited count.

According to my mother my vote for "Obehama" has proven to her that I'm not intelligent enough to vote, because we know that "Obehama" will open the country to the "Iraqueans" and "take over the country for Stalin".

She's voted for "that nice Alaskan girl".

My grandfather voted for "Obehama" because he didn't want a woman for vice president.

Wow.

They're arieting the lawn for her...that'd be funnier if I had any idea how to spell that...seriously Firefox? You thought I was trying to spell "marketing?"

Indiana is ahead for Obama in the way too early to get excited count.
aerating

South Carolina polls will close at 7:00pm EST.

Obama's currently ranking almost even with McCain in Kentucky, but that's not going to last long, since Louisville can only do so much over the state.

aerating

What...you think...*hic*...you think you're better than me, huh?

South Carolina polls will close at 7:00pm EST.

Wilgrove, I know you said you were voting for Bob Barr, but since we know he's not going to win, who would you prefer to see win?

Obama's currently ranking almost even with McCain in Kentucky, but that's not going to last long, since Louisville can only do so much over the state.

Obama is currently winning Indiana also, though I don't expect that to hold. Only 3% have reported in thus far.

Who´s winning? I ask because I got engrossed watching the Puerto Rican elections. They were today too so... President Obama? President McCain?:confused:

Wilgrove, I know you said you were voting for Bob Barr, but since we know he's not going to win, who would you prefer to see win?

Honestly, McCain, even though I question Palin intelligence and whether or not McCain is senile. The fact that Obama is inexperienced scares me more. We had Bush, and Carter who were both inexperienced Presidents and look how they turned out.

How the heck did CNN project the results of Kentucky and Vermont so quickly???? "It's 7:00, and with barely none of the votes in, we call these two states!"

They literally called Vermont with no votes reported.

As of 7:04 the score is Obama 3 McCain 8. Vermont for Obama and Kentucky for McCain. No surprises.

Indiana remains deadlocked.

Who´s winning? I ask because I got engrossed watching the Puerto Rican elections. They were today too so... President Obama? President McCain?:confused:

It's got a while to go, like, a while-go ahead and devote your attention to Puerto Rico.

It's got a while to go, like, a while-go ahead and devote your attention to Puerto Rico.

No fun, the PR ones were decided already. At least can you tell me what´s the tendency?

No fun, the PR ones were decided already. At least can you tell me what´s the tendency?

there is no tendency. Only 2 states are called, both no surprises. Vermont for Obama Kentucky for McCain. Indiana remains locked up. No other results are in.

Don't forget we're a BIG country, only a very few polls have closed.

I personally think Obama is gonna win.

there is no tendency. Only 2 states are called, both no surprises. Vermont for Obama Kentucky for McCain. Indiana remains locked up. No other results are in.

Don't forget we're a BIG country, only a very few polls have closed.

My bad. I keep forgetting. And of course, the way votes are tallied (and I don´t think I´m using the correct word) there always confuses me.

heh @ indecision2008

Good News for Obama from Ridiculously Unreliable Source
POSTED BY: Matthew Tobey
According to Drudge just now:

EXIT POLLS CLAIM 'OBAMA +15' IN PA... DEVELOPING...

Given the accuracy of exit polls in 2004 and the general trustworthiness of The Drudge Report, I think it's safe to assume David Hasselhoff will win Pennsylvania by a margin of eleventy-hundred pingpong balls.

How the heck did CNN project the results of Kentucky and Vermont so quickly???? "It's 7:00, and with barely none of the votes in, we call these two states!"

They literally called Vermont with no votes reported.

Polls, along with the general understood trend of voters in those states.

We're talking Vermont and Kentucky here mind. Vermont is the most left-wing state in the nation, and Kentucky is one of the more right-wing states. They were more or less assured from the start.

Does the winner in each state get all the college votes?

How the heck did CNN project the results of Kentucky and Vermont so quickly???? "It's 7:00, and with barely none of the votes in, we call these two states!"

They literally called Vermont with no votes reported.

Basic statistics really. Once the sample is large enough the trend stays pretty much the same (as long as the sample is a realistic cross section of the whole).

Is it just me, or is the BBC coverage of this, just a tiny bit biased?

As of 7:10 - Obama 50% McCain 49% in Indiana with 7% reporting

No fun, the PR ones were decided already. At least can you tell me what´s the tendency?

Most polls in the country won't be closed for another few hours yet. Across our entire territory we've got four time zones across the vast majority, and another five out in our pacific territories.

We're a big nation. It takes us awhile. Patience, my Spanish friend.

Does the winner in each state get all the college votes?

yes, except for Nebraska and Maine which do them by district (winner of the district gets the vote)

I personally think Obama is gonna win.

Welcome to the thickest limb on the tree.

The polls have now closed in virgina. 55%/44% in favor of McCain with 1% reporting.

Welcome to the thickest limb on the tree.

hahaha!

Most polls in the country won't be closed for another few hours yet. Across our entire territory we've got four time zones across the vast majority, and another five out in our pacific territories.

We're a big nation. It takes us awhile. Patience, my Spanish friend.

Yeah, I must be patient.

Welcome to the thickest limb on the tree.

One only hopes we don't get so heavy we fall off. Or drag the tree down with us.

Other news:

OMG! CNN IS USING HOLOGRAPHIC TECHNOLOGY!

So, what states should we keep an eye on?

So far I got PA, OH, VA, FL, and NC

Any other?

So, what states should we keep an eye on?

So far I got PA, OH, VA, FL, and NC

Any other?

check my post in the beginning of the thread, I gave my analysis of what's important IMO

The polls have now closed in virgina. 55%/44% in favor of McCain with 1% reporting.

Is this a bit of a suprise??

check my post in the beginning of the thread, I gave my analysis of what's important IMO

Ok, thanks.

Is this a bit of a suprise??

with 1%? No. Who knows where that 1% is coming from.

Is this a bit of a suprise??

Polls indicated that Obama could steal Virgina from the Republicans.

I'm watching CNN and I have to say this is awesome.

First, there was the hexapundit (6 pundits on one screen)
Then, there was the octapundit (8 pundits, 1 screen)
Then, there was the decapundit (10, 10 pundits, ah ah ah)

Now, we have a revolution in television technology - the HOLOPUNDIT. A pundit in Chicago is presented to tv viewers as a hologram in the situation room! A-fucking-mazing!

Is this a bit of a suprise??
Yes, because people are pretending 1% of districts reporting matters.

Virginia has tightened to 46%/53% for McCain with 2% in.

Florida 54%/46% McCain with less than 1%

with 1%? No. Who knows where that 1% is coming from.

Oh click. I getcha now.

Now, we have a revolution in television technology - the HOLOPUNDIT. A pundit in Chicago is presented to tv viewers as a hologram in the situation room! A-fucking-mazing!

I'm watching it too. I believe it's fake, as in they merely transcribe an image of the pundit into the screen.

I hope it's fake. Otherwise I can't possibly imagine how I didn't hear of it earlier...

Interesting analysis on CNN. Indiana is going 51% 48% in favor of McCain BUT the areas that have reported were traditionally red, and Obama has already flipped some former red areas to blue, and the major blue areas of Indiana haven't come in yet.

CNN > everything.

you guys hold down the fort here, i'm headed downtown

It seems FL is leaning towards Obama.

It seems FL is leaning towards Obama.

Florida is gonna vote Democrat?! So there are miracles after all... :)

Interesting analysis on CNN. Indiana is going 51% 48% in favor of McCain BUT the areas that have reported were traditionally red, and Obama has already flipped some former red areas to blue, and the major blue areas of Indiana haven't come in yet.

If Obama takes Indiana, it will be big.

Also, Obama has a commanding lead in Florida so far.

lol wtf Florida?

Woah. Kay Hagin has a lead over Elizabeth Dole in North Carolina!

If Obama takes Indiana, it will be big.

Also, Obama has a commanding lead in Florida so far.

some of the CNN numbers are screwy, it adds to less than 85%

I'm watching it too. I believe it's fake, as in they merely transcribe an image of the pundit into the screen.

Thanks Cpt Obvious...
There isn't actually a hologram there; however, she is being recorded in such a way that she can be transmitted in full 3d so were there actual hologram technology, she could be portrayed that way.

Florida is gonna vote Democrat?! So there are miracles after all... :)
It did in 2000 >_>

I'm watching it too. I believe it's fake, as in they merely transcribe an image of the pundit into the screen.

It's not a true hologram that appears in the studio, I'm certain. However, the pundit in question described a 35 camera rig that captured her in real time to put her 'in the studio'.

It's a clever trick, but ultimately pretty silly. We'll laugh about the primitive technology during the 2012 campaign.

It did in 2000 >_>

Well, officially it didn't... :p

lol wtf Florida?

A friend of mine is telling me a few centers reported and there´s a leaning towards Obama. 1%, Miami reporting first. Apparently that´s a shocker.

It's not a true hologram that appears in the studio, I'm certain. However, the pundit in question described a 35 camera rig that captured her in real time to put her 'in the studio'.

It's a clever trick, but ultimately pretty silly. We'll laugh about the primitive technology during the 2012 campaign.

And then we'll laugh about THAT election's primative technology in 2016, etc tec tec...

Woah. Kay Hagin has a lead over Elizabeth Dole in North Carolina!

This is not a surprise. 538 has her with a 4% to 8% lead in most polls.

Thanks Cpt Obvious...
There isn't actually a hologram there; however, she is being recorded in such a way that she can be transmitted in full 3d so were there actual hologram technology, she could be portrayed that way.

I know that. But I was clarifying for people who were perhaps at work and reading.

It's mainly been Republican states that have shown results so far - Georgia, Kentucky, etc. Once the Democrat blocks in the North east and west coast vote it'll change rapidly for Obama.

This is not a surprise. 538 has her with a 4% to 8% lead in most polls.

I hadn't been paying attention to that. I probably should have.

I hope she wins and kicks Dole's campaign into the dirt where it belongs.

with 2% in, Florida is 57% to 43% in favor of Obama

I hadn't been paying attention to that. I probably should have.

I hope she wins and kicks Dole's campaign into the dirt where it belongs.

Hagin deserves a blowout after the absolutely abhorrent tactics that Dole used.

some of the CNN numbers are screwy, it adds to less than 85%

It's been fixed and Obama is ahead with 57% I think.