3rd NS General Election - voting thread
This election is now closed. Thank you for having voted. The results can be found in the thread of the new Parliament, here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10617754#post10617754).
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The third NS General election (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472095) has begun!
It will remain open for five days. Each person is entitled to one vote. This thread can be used for election debates, and any questions voters may have for the parties.
Here are the links to each party's manifesto, in alphabetical order.
* Anarchy at Any Cost Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472558)
* Democratic Socialist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472567)
* Emphatically Silly Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472431)
* Militant Leftist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472438) (formerly: Revolutionary Trotskyist Party)
* Mole and Other Burrowing Rodents’ Alliance (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418621)
* New British Imperialist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10550585#post10550585)
* NS Classic Liberals (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418625)
* NS Conservative Party (http://freeuploader.com/view.php/128389.pdf)
* Technocratic Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473274)
* United Democratic Communist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418610)
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 10:37
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
A fresh new government that works for everyone.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Dragons with Guns
17-03-2006, 10:38
ESP gets my vote! Money-poor, Marmite-rich economy? That's what I'm talking about.
Harlesburg
17-03-2006, 11:01
Think of the efficency of the Mole!
They built the Channel Tunnel you know, and Saddam's Bunker!
Write in Candidate:
None of the above!
Reject this sham of a democracy!
Neu Leonstein
17-03-2006, 11:14
Reject this sham of a democracy!
Sham? Why sham?
Harlesburg
17-03-2006, 11:19
Sham? Why sham?
Because he is gayer than Ernst Rohm.
Sham? Why sham?
Why institute a representative pseudo-democracy, when this place is perfectly suited for a direct one where we represent ourselves? Exercise in futile faux-parliamentary elitism, is what this is.
Harlesburg
17-03-2006, 11:25
I just think it is a case for...
http://www.randi.org/images/062405-mayor.jpg
Gruenberg
17-03-2006, 11:35
Well, the Anarchy at Any Cost Party is the one set to deliver direct democracy.
Harlesburg
17-03-2006, 11:38
Well, the Anarchy at Any Cost Party is the one set to deliver direct democracy.
Yet you shall fall to the POWAH of the Underground!
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/143/revolutionaries5ni.jpg
Help Give The Workers A Say In Politics!
Vote For The Militant Leftist Party!
Michaelic France
17-03-2006, 12:28
Give the workers power without the price of bloddshed and state terror. Vote UDCP Comrades!
Give the workers power without the price of bloddshed and state terror. Vote UDCP Comrades!
Give the workers a chance to defend themselves. Don't let reformists sell us down the river yet again.
Gruenberg
17-03-2006, 12:34
All the cool communists were anarchists. And didn't post page-breaking images. Down with statist annoying-scroll-bar oppression! Vote AACP!
Michaelic France
17-03-2006, 12:36
Don't let revolutionaries pollute the river with blood!
Don't let revolutionaries pollute the river with blood!
Don't let reformists set us up for another Pinochet
Michaelic France
17-03-2006, 12:39
At least reformist communism makes sure that the people, the ones we are fighting for, are ready for communism. It doesn't take a nation to wage guerilla war, it takes a small band of determined fighters, righteous or not. Not every country is ready for communism, it must be implemented by democratic means, so the people truly have the say in how they are governed.
At least reformist communism makes sure that the people, the ones we are fighting for, are ready for communism. It doesn't take a nation to wage guerilla war, it takes a small band of determined fighters, righteous or not. Not every country is ready for communism, it must be implemented by democratic means, so the people truly have the say in how they are governed.
Eurgh God not this debate again.
1) You seem to think we want a coup, which is entirely different from a revolution.
2) Only through the act of revolution can the working class establish and strengthen the instruments of power needed for a socialist state
3) Reformism ignores the violent nature of capitalism and the fact that the bourgeoisie will do anything to hold onto their power.
4) Your socialism from above cannot ever work. You tell the working class to put a cross on a ballot every few years and assume that that means they are ready for socialism.
Jello Biafra
17-03-2006, 12:55
All the cool communists were anarchists. And all the cool anarchists were communists. ;) Vote UDCP!
And all the cool anarchists were communists. ;) Vote UDCP!
All the cool communists were militants
Vote MLP!
Hmmm....it's a toss-up for me between the NS Classic Liberals and the Anarchy at Any Cost Party.
While I disagree with their manifesto somewhat, I do believe Anarchy to be the best form of government, so I'm going with the AACP.
Jello Biafra
17-03-2006, 14:14
Hmmm....it's a toss-up for me between the NS Classic Liberals and the Anarchy at Any Cost Party.
While I disagree with their manifesto somewhat, I do believe Anarchy to be the best form of government, so I'm going with the AACP.The AACP does not have a preference for a particular type of anarchism, anarcho-communism is something that they find to be perfectly acceptable...just to point that out.
Mariehamn
17-03-2006, 16:59
Esp! Esp! Esp!
Voted conservative. Please don't kill me, revolutionaries.
The Nuke Testgrounds
17-03-2006, 17:03
I voted the Technocratic Party, simply because I like technocracy...
Thriceaddict
17-03-2006, 17:12
UDCP FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!111one111!!!!!!!!!1
*snip*
A pox upon you, you made me side scroll!
Voted conservative. Please don't kill me, revolutionaries.
Don't worry, you're safe....
for now.
Daistallia 2104
17-03-2006, 17:32
Where is the Birthday Party???
:mad:
Valdania
17-03-2006, 17:47
Why institute a representative pseudo-democracy, when this place is perfectly suited for a direct one where we represent ourselves? Exercise in futile faux-parliamentary elitism, is what this is.
*agrees*
*votes anyway, just for fun like*
NS Conservative Party
The only party to have actually submitted legislation last term...
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 18:33
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
More teachers, smaller class sizes, better education.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Pythogria
17-03-2006, 18:37
You forgot the Utopian Unique Party.
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 18:40
NS Conservative Party
The only party to have actually submitted legislation last term...
Puppet voting legislation, I knew it didn't work on this election eventhough I voted for it.
After this election, I will put forward a bill that will see new funding for more teachers, smaller classroom sizes, and better support for ESL and special needs students.
NSCP, standing up for family values!
Thriceaddict
17-03-2006, 18:48
NSCP, standing up for family values!
Yeah white heterosexual christian families. :rolleyes:
Gruenberg
17-03-2006, 18:48
NSCP, standing up for family values!
My family's values are life, liberty and anal fisting. Are they included?
Santa Barbara
17-03-2006, 18:51
http://www.ryanspc.com/~mozart/communismkills_large.gif
Vote NS Classic Liberals
Because we won't kill you.
MLP, standing against the family unit!
Gruenberg
17-03-2006, 19:06
Left-wing? Vote AACP, and secure the true stateless, classless society as Marx envisaged it.
Right-wing? Vote AACP, and get government out of your business, for a truly free market.
Also: I suck at making campaign posters. So here is a picture of an attractive female. She would vote AACP.
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3262/qsqwsw8pn.png
Vote NS Classic Liberals
Because we won't kill you.
The NSCL advocates fighting against your right to health care, food, water, and a roof over your head.
Capitalism kills.
Vote UDCP!
Santa Barbara
17-03-2006, 19:16
Capitalism kills.
Vote UDCP!
The UDCP will rob from the rich and give to the poor.
And the government is the poor, and everyone else is the rich.
Vote NS Classic Liberals
Because you have a right not to get ass-raped by the government.
Pure Metal
17-03-2006, 19:25
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3262/qsqwsw8pn.png
AACP: the government wouldn't stop you sleeping with your fiiine sister... ;) :D
*cough* VOTE UDCP *cough*
Vegas-Rex
17-03-2006, 19:26
You forgot the Utopian Unique Party.
Did you have at least two members? Also, I think there's a line minimum on manifestos.
Vegas-Rex
17-03-2006, 19:31
http://www.discountleathergoods.com/images/gifts/76540.jpg
Do the Robot!
VOTE TECHNOCRACY
Competent Leaders for a Better Tomorrow
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 19:58
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Supporting a right to same-sex marriage
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Moleland
17-03-2006, 20:15
http://img194.echo.cx/img194/5504/ratattack7zk.jpg
Santa Barbara
17-03-2006, 20:18
http://www.cogsci.indiana.edu/farg/harry/bio/zoo/ant.jpg
PEOPLE ARE NOT ANTS
Vote NS Classic Liberals!
Vote for Your Human Self!
Moleland
17-03-2006, 20:23
http://www.cogsci.indiana.edu/farg/harry/bio/zoo/ant.jpg
PEOPLE ARE NOT ANTS
Vote NS Classic Liberals!
Vote for Your Human Self!
No, but they would be happier if they loved like them
VOTE MOBRA!
Santa Barbara
17-03-2006, 20:25
No, but they would be happier if they loved like them
Ants don't love.
Moleland
17-03-2006, 20:27
How do you know.have you been an ant?
Have you talked to an Ant?
Moleland
17-03-2006, 20:33
Oh, and BTW. I meant lived not loved...
http://img294.echo.cx/img294/7928/img550rm.jpg
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 20:45
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Supporting the Kyoto protocol for a cleaner environment
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
All the cool communists were militants
Vote MLP!
All the cool militants were anarchists! [Anarcho-communists maybe, but still anarchists!]
Vote for the Anarchy at All Costs Party!
All the cool militants were anarchists! [Anarcho-communists maybe, but still anarchists!]
And you know what else all those cool anarcho-communist militants are?
Dead.
Think about that one before you vote.
Dissonant Cognition
17-03-2006, 21:46
PEOPLE ARE NOT ANTS
Vote NS Classic Liberals!
Vote for Your Human Self!
Ants are often used as a metaphor for mindless collectivism. In reality, the anthill is remarkable for exhibiting complex and organized collective behavior while lacking anything resembling true centralized command and control; the "queen" does nothing more than lay eggs. Instead, the direction of the colony is determined by the reactions to chemical signals left and read by each ant. In this way, the overall behavior of the colony is determined by the interactions of its individual members. As such, the anthill actually serves to demonstrate the concepts of emergent order and swarm intelligence, that is, the "invisible hand" of decentralized and self-organizing collective behavior that serves as one of the cornerstones of classical liberal theory and ideology. The complex excavation, construction, and order observed in the hobbyist's antfarm results when individuals are left alone to do what they do best.
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 21:54
Wow, looks like there's a showdown between DSP and UDCP.
Geez, we need beers and popcorns.
The Mowers
17-03-2006, 22:16
Say YES to YOUR rights
Your right to ORGANIZE
Your right to EARN
Your right to PRAY
Your right to FAMILY
Your right to SELF DETERMINATION
Your right to LIVE
Your right to LIFE
VOTE
NSCONSERVATIVEPARTY
Vote for the UDCP!
You have nothing to lose except your chains!
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8153/marx2oo.png (http://imageshack.us)
Thriceaddict
17-03-2006, 22:23
Vote for the UCDP!
You have nothing to lose except your chains!
http://img477.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled7wk.png
I think people would be more inclined to vote for a party that got it's own name right. ;)
Fleckenstein
17-03-2006, 22:24
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Improving Everyone's Education
I think people would be more inclined to vote for a party that got it's own name right. ;)
Grr...
Thank's for the catch.
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 22:31
Fleckenstein, I think Leonstein said before that I should do the ads. Sorry. ;)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10576567&postcount=54
Fleckenstein
17-03-2006, 22:32
Fleckenstein, I think Leonstein said before that I should do the ads. Sorry. ;)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10576567&postcount=54
BALLS!
(hey don't blame me for trying)
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 22:37
BALLS!
(hey don't blame me for trying)
Btw, your DSP ad is good. ;)
Tell you what, criticize Mowers. :D
Fleckenstein
17-03-2006, 22:39
Btw, your DSP ad is good. ;)
thanks. :)
Tell you what, criticize Mowers. :D
i would, but that's too easy! :p
The Mowers
17-03-2006, 22:39
Tell you what, criticize Mowers. :D
TCR, what would you do without me? You'd be so bored and you would actually have to talk about policy! Amazing! what a thought that is.
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 22:43
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
DSP defends workers' rights and freedoms. Workers should be guaranteed job security, benefits such as healthcare and workers' compensation, safety, and a right to form labour unions.
We are strongly against outsourcing to low cost foreign labour markets.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Demonic Gophers
17-03-2006, 22:51
Vote MOBRA...
and we won't have to reduce the surface to radioactive slag!
Pure Metal
17-03-2006, 22:58
http://www.hlj.me.uk/UDCP%20march%2006%202.jpg
Sarkhaan
17-03-2006, 23:11
despite not loving all the policies, I think UDCP has the best education policies, and I like the healthcare policies. therefore, I believe they will be getting my vote. Unless someone can convince me otherwise.
My friends, I come here to ask of you, nay to implore of you, that you support the United Democratic Communist Party.
The MOBRA's campaigns rests on threats of violence! Will we allow ourselves to be intimidated out of our democracy?
The DSP do not go far enough! Whenever there is money, those skilled at earning it will exploit those who do not!
The Millitant Leftist Party goes too far! Violence cannot solve the problem, as it can only breed more violence!
The Emphatically Silly Party is good for a laugh, but are they really the sort of people we want running our government?
The Anarchy at any Cost has no clear plan for after it's anarchy is completed.
The New British Imperialist Party supports a elite for no other reason than there geographical place of birth!
The NS Classic Liberal Party is to pro-buisness.
I was unable to reach the NS Conservative manifesto and so cannot formulate an arguement for or against them.
The Technocratic Party opposes democracy!
Holyawesomeness
17-03-2006, 23:41
Bah! Vote technocratic! Vote for efficiency and progress in society! The other parties support backwards ideas and ideals, we of the technocratic party realize that in order to do the most in the long run that we must support progress in technology and promote efficiency in every action. A vote for us is a vote for the future! Do not back the dead and disproven ideas of the past but instead look ahead to the future!
despite not loving all the policies, I think UDCP has the best education policies, and I like the healthcare policies. therefore, I believe they will be getting my vote. Unless someone can convince me otherwise.
Thank you for your support. If you have any comments and suggestions you would like to make regarding our policies, please feel free.
Vote for a party with real policies for a fairer society!
Vote for a party which doesn't get its priorities back to front!
Vote UDCP!
Bah! Vote technocratic! Vote for efficiency and progress in society! The other parties support backwards ideas and ideals, we of the technocratic party realize that in order to do the most in the long run that we must support progress in technology and promote efficiency in every action. A vote for us is a vote for the future! Do not back the dead and disproven ideas of the past but instead look ahead to the future!
Your progress and efficency comes at the cost of democracy and equality!
Unless your party supports completely free education at every level, the people who excel, and become the politically elite will be the people who can afford that education!
Only the rich will be powerful!
Vote for the workers! Vote for equality! Vote for Democracy! Vote UDCP!
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 23:49
The DSP do not go far enough! Whenever there is money, those skilled at earning it will exploit those who do not!
And how?
I was unable to reach the NS Conservative manifesto and so cannot formulate an arguement for or against them.Just say they got a hidden agenda.
Btw, I do not agree with UDCP's policy. Tuition free post-secondary education and full state controlled economy will in fact drive the fiscal budget into deficit, ruin the economy, and higher tax for everybody.
And how?
1. Through lobbying.
2. Through economics.
Btw, I do not agree with UDCP's policy. Tuition free post-secondary education and full state controlled economy will in fact drive the fiscal budget into deficit, ruin the economy, and higher tax for everybody.
Well presumbably you don't agree or you wouldn't be campaigning for the DSP. As far as your argument goes, if the economy is nationalized, who will they owe money to?
The Chinese Republics
17-03-2006, 23:54
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Students deserve a better affordable post-secondary education.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Holyawesomeness
17-03-2006, 23:54
Your policies come at the cost of effective governance and will lead us to decay. Everything has a cost and the people with talent do not really want to be held back with high taxes and heavy handed governments and as such if we go to your government we will suffer brain-drains, we will suffer economic stagnation, and we will suffer from a society that ceases to go forward. A society that doesn't grow dies and we of the technocratic party realize that and as such promote growth and progress in our actions.
The equality that you would establish would be a falsehood and a sham that would be built upon the broken backs of all.
Vote technocratic for a society that will attain progress and that will enact efficient policies! Vote technocratic for a society that will minimize waste and inefficiency! Vote technocratic for the party that will deliver the best end results! Through technology and efficiency we will progress to perfection!
Left-wing? Vote AACP, and secure the true stateless, classless society as Marx envisaged it.
Right-wing? Vote AACP, and get government out of your business, for a truly free market.
Can't find a belief that suits you? Personal ideology riddled with logical inconsistencies?
Then why not vote AACP?
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 00:07
Are you looking ahead for a better future? Do you believe in the benefits of science and technology? Do you want to be led by competent leaders as opposed to incompetent ineffective political puppets? If you said yes to any of those questions then vote technocratic.
TECHNOCRATIC PARTY
Competent Leaders for a Better Tomorrow
Pure Metal
18-03-2006, 00:09
despite not loving all the policies, I think UDCP has the best education policies, and I like the healthcare policies. therefore, I believe they will be getting my vote. Unless someone can convince me otherwise.
thanks dude! :fluffle:
http://www.hlj.me.uk/UDCP%20march%2006%203%20small.jpg
Can't find a belief that suits you? Personal ideology riddled with logical inconsistencies?
Then why not vote AACP?
Ideologies are the bane of the modern world. Remember a little thing called World War II? What about the Cold War and its enumerable conflicts? The neo-con conflicts of the last fifteen years?
Anarchy!
For an ideology free world.
Here's a question I'd like to propose to the parties-
How does your party's ideology work to make your citizens better people?
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 00:12
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
The progressive choice
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Anarchy > Conservatives.
I suppose Blu-Tac (or whatever his name is) hasn’t stated the old puppet factory back up again… yet.
Anarchy!
All the cool communists are anarchists.
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 00:25
Your progress and efficency comes at the cost of democracy and equality!
Unless your party supports completely free education at every level, the people who excel, and become the politically elite will be the people who can afford that education!
Only the rich will be powerful!
Vote for the workers! Vote for equality! Vote for Democracy! Vote UDCP!
Blatant lie. We weigh societal good using a Rawlsian framework, which actually is one of the best logical arguments for equality. Your support of democracy means the many will always suppress the few, and minorities will suffer.
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 00:26
Here's a question I'd like to propose to the parties-
How does your party's ideology work to make your citizens better people?
Our party's ideology mostly focuses on the aspects of government that cause problems in society, however, we work to make citizens better people by rewarding virtues. We seek to create a very meritocratic system because merit determines one's ability to do the job and one's effectiveness. A better future requires better people and rewarding merit is the best way to get people to realize that they must improve themselves. The technocrats want a culture of continual improvement to pervade society and that is what will make the nation and ultimately the world a better place-- improvement makes things happen.
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 00:28
Vote for a society in which none can be marginalized
VOTE TECHNOCRATIC
Knowledge Shall Light Our Way
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 00:36
The Emphatically Silly Party is good for a laugh, but are they really the sort of people we want running our government?
Erm...
Money-poor, Marmite-rich economy?
I think that answers your question.
Seosavists
18-03-2006, 00:37
I'm going to kill the leader of the AACP!
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 00:39
Here's a question I'd like to propose to the parties-
How does your party's ideology work to make your citizens better people?Good question.
DSP will provide public education from Grade K to 12 tuition free. We will provide new funding towards hiring more teachers, smaller classroom sizes, and better ESL and special needs support. We will aim at lowering or freezing tuition fees and offer financial aids to make post-secondary education affordable for students.
DSP will also provide affordable healthcare, private doctors must work within the legal framework. Drugs will be subsidized to make it affordable for ordinary people.
Workers have rights and freedoms. Workers are guaranteed job security, benefits, safety, and a right to form labour unions.
For economy, we believe a free market economy will only benefit the corporate cronies, a full state controlled economy will drive away businesses and workers won't get a decent pay they deserve, even a university degree won't get them a decent pay they deserve. Both can't provide a "one size fits all" solution. That why we promote a progressive tax system, tax high enough to fund public services and low enough to allow companies to be competitive on the global market.
Any more questions, I'll leave it for Neu Leonstein.
Ladamesansmerci
18-03-2006, 00:45
I'm going to kill the leader of the AACP!
...why?
Seosavists
18-03-2006, 00:46
...why?
why not? Why wouldn't I kill the leader of the anarchist party?
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 00:47
Well presumbably you don't agree or you wouldn't be campaigning for the DSP. As far as your argument goes, if the economy is nationalized, who will they owe money to?Seriously, with a closed economy, how are going to feed and provide jobs to a growing population? Plus with the idea of the rota system and ambolishing the monetary system, you are making free post-secondary education pointless.
Ladamesansmerci
18-03-2006, 00:48
why not? Why wouldn't I kill the leader of the anarchist party?
because you're a nice person who wouldn't hurt a fly? (Okay, i know it's probably not true, but a girl can dream, right?)
Seosavists
18-03-2006, 00:50
because you're a nice person who wouldn't hurt a fly?
damn! You got me!
I'm going to kill the leader of the AACP!
Anarchy!
The only party to receive a death threat.
Told you we were cool.
Ladamesansmerci
18-03-2006, 00:55
damn! You got me!
:D
And the AACP are mocking you. :p
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 00:59
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Defending women's right to choose
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 01:05
Question for Ariddia: How many seats are up for grabs?
How does your party's ideology work to make your citizens better people?
Ah, that's a fundamental aspect. Our hope is to encourage intelligence, critical thinking, altruism, humanity and a sense of mutual responsibility within the community.
For this, it's necessary to ensure that no-one is marginalised by society. A capitalist society encourages selfishness, inhumanity, and teaches people that desire for useless profit is a "right" more sacred than anyone's right to decent living conditions. Capitalism runs contrary to essential human qualities. We aim to undo capitalist propaganda and encourage people to think for themselves rather than simply embrace mindless selfishness which is destructive to society, their fellow citizens and the environment.
If you look at our manifesto, you'll see we will encourage people to embrace solidarity and working together for the sake of the community. Our priorities are essential human priorities, priorities that will give citizens the means to become better people. We aim to get society's priorities right, so that a person's right to live, with decent health care, food, water, education, opportunities to fulfil their dreams and aspirations, and a roof over their head, will at last be considered more important than the so-called "right" to needless, senseless profit obtained through robbing workers of the fruit of their labour.
As mentioned earlier, education is central to our manifesto. Unlike other parties, which sometimes seem to believe maintaining people in ignorance and stunting the development of their potential is acceptable, we want to help each person's potential flourish. We aim to give everyone a full education, which will allow them to develop skills, a broad knowledge, a better and fuller understanding of the world around them, a less selfish perspective, and above all the ability to exercise critical judgment over what they are told and learn.
We believe that ignorance is slavery, and that selfishness is destructive both to society and to essential human qualities.
Vote for a real education!
Vote for a more human society!
Vote for a party with real policies for a fairer tomorrow!
Vote UDCP!
Question for Ariddia: How many seats are up for grabs?
Well, last time it was 25. Which meant a party needed 4% of the vote to gain a seat. There could be more seats if you all want, I suppose, as long as we're sure the parties would have enough members to fill them.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 01:27
heh heh, want to start a debate on "women's right to choose" just to drive the conservatives crazy, Ariddia or some other UDCP members? :D
Madnestan
18-03-2006, 01:45
AACP allows all sorts of anarchism, without trying to enforce any of them over the rest, in any ways? Anarchosyndicalism just as well as anarchoindividualism?
If that's the case, then I know that it truly is my party.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 01:45
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Say no to privatization of essential public services
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 01:56
Vote for the Militant Leftist Party
Your welfare, not GDP, is how we measure success
http://upload.mcgill.ca/chaplaincy/solidarity.gif
Paid for by A-PAC
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 02:00
Vote for the Militant Leftist Party
Your welfare, not GDP, is how we measure success
http://upload.mcgill.ca/chaplaincy/solidarity.gif
Paid for by A-PAC
VOTE TECHNOCRAT
Because we can actually measure your welfare
Pythogria
18-03-2006, 02:05
VOTE TECHNOCRAT!
It just makes sense!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-03-2006, 02:07
VOTE TECHNOCRAT
Because we can actually measure your welfare
Well, I won't vote for you, but I'm laughing. :p
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 02:17
Well, I won't vote for you, but I'm laughing. :p
Same here. Brava, Vegas-Rex, brava.
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 02:42
Vote technocrat! We're pretty darn sexy!:D
err... we also have good policies but we won't bother you people with such trivial things.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-03-2006, 02:47
Same here. Brava, Vegas-Rex, brava.
Vegas-Rex is a girl? :eek:
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 02:47
Vegas-Rex is a girl? :eek:
That's the only way I can picture her.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-03-2006, 02:52
That's the only way I can picture her.
Goes to show what I know - I read the user name and "technocrat", and think "guy".
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 03:00
Vote Technocrat!!!
Technocrats are the party of progress and progress is our main political goal. We do not seek short sighted policies but rather have long term goals and the ideological flexibility to do whatever is necessary to achieve those goals. Vote with what will work. Technocrats will work in all situations, we could all use some more efficiency.
Potarius
18-03-2006, 03:01
UDCP, damnit.
Fleckenstein
18-03-2006, 03:05
UDCP, damnit.
simplify, simplify, simplify! :p
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 03:11
That's the only way I can picture her.
Sorry, you're wrong. I'm male. Do you seriously think a girl would be as annoying as I am?
Anyway...
TECHNOCRACY
Avoiding the limitations of Ideology and the failure of Apathy
The Mowers
18-03-2006, 03:23
Support your right to earn
Support your right to organize
Support your right to life
SUPPORT
NSCONSERVATIVEPARTY
Potarius
18-03-2006, 03:24
simplify, simplify, simplify! :p
That's the key, damnit.
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 03:31
Technocratic Party
The application of reason to government. See, we already have fresh ideas!!:D
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 03:33
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
A moderate alternative to the UDCP
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
18-03-2006, 03:34
Sorry, you're wrong. I'm male. Do you seriously think a girl would be as annoying as I am?
Whew, so my over-simplified sensors aren't that off, after all.
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 03:34
Support your right to organize
Are there actually any decidedly anti-union parties? If anything, I thought you'd be them.
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 03:35
Cultivating the idea of progress
Trying to increase efficiency
A party for the betterment of all
Technocratic Party
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 03:39
Technology is progress
Technocrats bring progress
Vote Technocrat for progress and improvment
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 03:40
Are there actually any decidedly anti-union parties? If anything, I thought you'd be them.They were, but at this point they're desperate.
A right to form labour unions is the only thing they care about workers and that's not enough.
Btw, their manifesto is in a PDF file, and inside the PDF file...
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 03:42
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
DSP defends workers' rights and freedoms. Workers should be guaranteed job security, benefits such as healthcare and workers' compensation, safety, a right to bargain, and a right to form labour unions.
We are strongly against outsourcing of jobs to low cost foreign labour markets.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 03:48
DSP defends workers' rights and freedoms. Workers should be guaranteed job security, benefits such as healthcare and workers' compensation, safety, a right to bargain, and a right to form labour unions.
We are strongly against outsourcing to low cost foreign labour markets.
A more efficient, effective, solution would be to unionize the foreign markets. Our policy on dissidents supports such measures, rather than outright bans. That's an example of how we technocrats can do everything the other parties do, better.
VOTE TECHNOCRAT
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 03:48
Vote for the MLP
http://www.erichufschmid.net/KillUnwantedKitten.jpg
Don't make us kill the kitten
Paid for by A-PAC
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 03:52
It's rather amusing that the two parties with the lowest votes have resorted to threats.
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 03:55
It's rather amusing that the two parties with the lowest votes have resorted to threats.
But we're the MLP, so we have an excuse.
Vote for the MLP
http://www.erichufschmid.net/KillUnwantedKitten.jpg
Don't make us kill the kitten
Paid for by A-PAC
After the proletariat rise up against their bourgeoisie oppressors, the kittens will rise up against their anthropoid oppressors...
Someday... :sniper: :mp5: :gundge:
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 04:06
Hmm.... threats.... that's an idea.:)
Thriceaddict
18-03-2006, 04:09
Hmm.... threats.... that's an idea.:)
You don't need threats. Your manifesto is a threat in itself. :D
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 04:14
You don't need threats. Your manifesto is a threat in itself. :D
Darn it! We need to seem more open and people friendly. Hmm....
Vote Technocratic today and bring a smile to our faces. Technocrats are people too!:(
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 04:17
Vote Technocrat you could do worse!
Ok, we are cool people. We would be a good choice as we believe in all 3 of the following and you the people deserve all 3 of those things.
Technology Progress Success
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 04:29
Technocrats neither left wing nor right wing. Why choose one wing when you can have the entire bird?
http://www.davywavy.com/Laramie/owl_flying.gif
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 04:29
I suppose Blu-Tac (or whatever his name is) hasn’t stated the old puppet factory back up again… yet.
Hope he don't. I barely heard him and Pacalini since the start of this election.
I have a feeling he might start that one up again.
According to his website: http://www.nscp.us.tt/
He has over 100 supporters in 3 regions, I'm speculating he got puppets there. Not sure.
If he does and use it again in this election, he and his party could be in ethical trouble.
Edit: This one is pretty interesting... http://www.hostmybb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=12&mforum=nscp
Btw, that useless puppet voting law, I felt it's never being reinforced. I believe this bill is an attempt to brighten up their image.
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 04:32
I checked out the region and not much is going on.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 04:33
Funny now, now there are two violent parties and two "desperate for votes" parties. Geez Holyawesomeness, calm down. :D
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 04:36
Which one is the MLP? :D
Thriceaddict
18-03-2006, 04:37
Both
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 04:38
Funny now, now there are two violent parties and two "desperate for votes" parties. Geez Holyawesomeness, calm down. :D
Aw, come on! It is fun acting pitiful in hopes of getting votes.:D In fact, if I weren't doing this then I would be doing something else that would be less fun.
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 04:40
Aw, come on! It is fun acting pitiful in hopes of getting votes.:D In fact, if I weren't doing this then I would be doing something else that would be less fun.
Still, TCP is right. Cool down, at least just a little. People won't vote for us if they think we're convinced we're losing.
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 04:42
Still, TCP is right. Cool down, at least just a little. People won't vote for us if they think we're convinced we're losing.
Yeah, I know, I was just joking about most of it. I am easily excitable.:D
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 05:34
Still, TCP is right. Cool down, at least just a little. People won't vote for us if they think we're convinced we're losing.Well, here's my election tip of the day. :D
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 05:40
BothNo, MLP and MOBRA are the violent parties. Well, MLP got an excuse for that btw. Technocrats and Tories are the deperate parties. :D
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 05:54
Still, TCP is right.
I'm officially now known as The Chinese Person.
:D
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 05:56
I'm officially now known as The Chinese Person.
:D
Whoa, didn't notice that. You're right, the last initial of your name is R, not P. Why were people calling you TCP, then?
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 05:56
I'm officially now known as The Chinese Person.
:D
Dern Chinese and them new fangled akry-nims.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 05:58
Whoa, didn't notice that. You're right, the last initial of your name is R, not P. Why were people calling you TCP, then?Hmmm... dunno...
I didn't really notice it until now.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 06:00
Dern Chinese and them new fangled akry-nims.:D
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 06:19
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
A Conservative policy don't care about ordinary people. A UDCP policy don't care about our economy. Our policy care about both, that's because everyone matters.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 06:45
Debate anybody?
A UDCP policy don't care about our economy.
Nonsense. The UDCP refuses to play by capitalist rules because the UDCP will eliminate capitalism.
Statist reformism will not end the oppression of the working class.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 07:36
Nonsense. The UDCP refuses to play by capitalist rules because the UDCP will eliminate capitalism.
Statist reformism will not end the oppression of the working class.We don't oppress workers by taking away their right and benefits, but your "rota system" do. The rota system is like putting everybody in forced labour camps. Also replacing the monetary system with ration cards is like living in a refugee camp lifestyle. All of this will make your plans for free post-secondary education obsolete. Under your policy, if I took a computer info tech course and got my diploma of tech studies, no matter what, I would end up in the "rota system" instead of becoming an office network administrator. If one person's goal is to be a doctor, the "rota system" prevents it.
Eutrusca
18-03-2006, 07:41
I must be drifting leftward!
The DSP is actually looking pretty good to me. :eek:
Unabashed Greed
18-03-2006, 07:46
I must be drifting leftward!
The DSP is actually looking pretty good to me. :eek:
This is probably one of the few times one can see me agreeing with Eut, though I leave the ":eek:" out because I'm not surprised by my own thoughts and feelings ;)
Eutrusca
18-03-2006, 07:51
This is probably one of the few times one can see me agreeing with Eut, though I leave the ":eek:" out because I'm not surprised by my own thoughts and feelings ;)
It's not so much "surprise" as it is a combination of incredulity and shock! :D
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 07:53
We decided to slide a little bit toward the centre of the political spectrum.
That's why DSP is the only moderate left-wing (or left-of-centre) party existed.
DSP believes everyone in NS matters. ;)
Eutrusca
18-03-2006, 07:57
We decided to slide a little bit toward the centre of the political spectrum.
That's why DSP is the only moderate left-wing (or left-of-centre) party existed.
DSP believes everyone in NS matters. ;)
Even crusty old spammer/troll/flammer veterans? :D
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 08:04
Exactly! :D
We don't oppress workers by taking away their right and benefits, but your "rota system" do. The rota system is like putting everybody in forced labour camps.
Work is "compulsory" in the same sense under capitalism, only the jobs no one wants to do are given to the poor instead of shared by everyone. It's a simple system, with an obvious justification - if you want society to contribute to your well-being, you have an equal share of the labor no one wants to perform.
Also replacing the monetary system with ration cards is like living in a refugee camp lifestyle.
No, since resources will not be scarce, merely distributed in a more equal fashion.
All of this will make your plans for free post-secondary education obsolete. Under your policy, if I took a computer info tech course and got my diploma of tech studies, no matter what, I would end up in the "rota system" instead of becoming an office network administrator. If one person's goal is to be a doctor, the "rota system" prevents it.
No one is "in" the rota system. When no one volunteers for a particular task, that task is shared - it is not reserved for anyone, and no one performs it any more than temporarily. You serve where you want for the rest of the period.
Sarkhaan
18-03-2006, 08:24
thanks dude! :fluffle:
http://www.hlj.me.uk/UDCP%20march%2006%203%20small.jpg
ya know, the more I'm reading it, the more I realize, outside of the economics section, I tend to agree with the manifesto...and even under econimics, tend to agree atleast in theory...
therefore, I think it is safe to say...
sign me on for UDCP
Harlesburg
18-03-2006, 08:33
Where is the Birthday Party???
:mad:
Yeah!
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 08:42
No, since resources will not be scarce, merely distributed in a more equal fashion.United Nations World Food Programme?
With the abolishment of the monetary system, I think it's pointless to go to college and university to earn a diploma or a degree. Because if you're an electrician, you get a ration card; or if you're a doctor, you get a ration card. No matter what level of college or university training you have, you've practically earned nothing but a damn card. And really, how do you expect to get a computer or a TV for free? Not in a ration card isn't it? But without the monetary system or the ration card, store shelves would be gone in seconds.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 09:06
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Affordable healthcare for everyone.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
With the abolishment of the monetary system, I think it's pointless to go to college and university to earn a diploma or a degree. Because if you're an electrician, you get a ration card; or if you're a doctor, you get a ration card. No matter what level of college or university training you have, you've practically earned nothing but a damn card.
Some people enjoy education, and some people will enjoy skilled labor more than unskilled labor. Furthermore, those who do not pursue a college education won't simply be sitting and doing nothing; they will be working.
And really, how do you expect to get a computer or a TV for free? Not in a ration card isn't it? But without the monetary system or the ration card, store shelves would be gone in seconds.
Goods would be distributed in an equitable fashion, be they luxury goods or necessities. Necessities would of course have first priority. The means of distribution could potentially be any number of things.
Eutrusca
18-03-2006, 09:33
Exactly! :D
Far out, Chinese person! :D
Moleland
18-03-2006, 11:31
http://img270.echo.cx/img270/8738/bephomet27iy.jpg
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 11:38
Jaffa Cakes! Fatal game shows! National holidays all year round! Marmite!
You know you want it, you know how to get it!
VOTE ESP!
Honesty gets you everywhere:
http://laindon.net/silly/Silly%20Ads/images/marmite.jpg
heh heh, want to start a debate on "women's right to choose" just to drive the conservatives crazy, Ariddia or some other UDCP members? :D
Hehe... Why not. Although I'm not sure there'd be all that much difference between our progressive parties.
I must be drifting leftward!
The DSP is actually looking pretty good to me. :eek:
Well, it's never too late. :p
Although it may be due in part to the fact the DSP is drifting rightward...
With the abolishment of the monetary system, I think it's pointless to go to college and university to earn a diploma or a degree.
Not everyday is driven solely by profit. I'm hoping people choose to study in great part because they find it interesting, and they want to become a doctor, or some other high-skill job.
It reflects sadly on society that only profit seems to matter nowadays. The UDCP aims to offer a better society. One in which you will no longer have to worry about money, where you will no longer have to fear poverty, and where you will no longer be obsessed with accumulating senseless wealth. We wish to encourage people to pursue their own interests freely, without these constraints, and to rediscover that studying and working can be interesting and rewarding in itself. We will give everyone the power to choose what to do with their own lives.
Vote for a party with real policies for a better society.
Vote for a party which gets its priorities right.
Vote UDCP, and discover the true meaning of freedom!
Vote UDCP!
Harlesburg
18-03-2006, 12:59
Death to Surfacers!
More Colour Purple!
More Rabbit Warren on TV!
eh-oh topless you know you want it!
VOTE MOBRA!
Jello Biafra
18-03-2006, 13:08
And you know what else all those cool anarcho-communist militants are?
Dead.
Think about that one before you vote.Exactly. Be a non militant anarcho-communist! Vote UDCP and live!
Harlesburg
18-03-2006, 13:12
UDCP supports the following Proposals!
http://plaine.typepad.com/tqc/images/love_is.JPG
Can you trust that?
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 16:22
Seeing as the first query:
Where is the Birthday Party???
:mad:
got no reply, I must ask
WHERE THE EFFING HELL IS THE BIRTHDAY PARTYY!!!!
And I note that at least one other poster wants to know the same.
Seosavists
18-03-2006, 17:02
...The Birthday Party...
:eek: This election is a fraud! The enemies of the birthday party have excluded them!:eek: :eek:
Fleckenstein
18-03-2006, 17:05
:eek: This election is a fraud! The enemies of the birthday party have excluded them!:eek: :eek:
a "corrupt bargain" if you will. sorry, studying us I puts it on your mind.
DSP!!!! DSP!!!! DSP!!!!
I am a Liberal and a centrist for the most part. I have supported the Classic Liberal Party in the past but I reject the neoliberal, classic liberal approach. I prefer left-of-centre to neoliberalism.
I voted for the Democratic Socialist Party.
Fleckenstein
18-03-2006, 17:20
I am a Liberal and a centrist for the most part. I have supported the Classic Liberal Party in the past but I reject the neoliberal, classic liberal approach. I prefer left-of-centre to neoliberalism.
I voted for the Democratic Socialist Party.
high five! w00t!
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 17:23
Seeing as the first query:
got no reply, I must ask
WHERE THE EFFING HELL IS THE BIRTHDAY PARTYY!!!!
And I note that at least one other poster wants to know the same.
Ariddia made a post at some point in the other thread saying that it had an incomplete manifesto. I'll just go find it. There is no conspiracy.
Here's the post: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10583553&postcount=398
Seeing as the first query:
got no reply, I must ask
WHERE THE EFFING HELL IS THE BIRTHDAY PARTYY!!!!
As I've already informed you, the Birthday Party didn't meet the requirements to be recognised. You can't take part in an election without a full manifesto.
Seosavists
18-03-2006, 17:25
There is no conspiracy.
I was just joking, but you saying that makes me think that there is a conspiracy!
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 17:29
I was just joking, but you saying that makes me think that there is a conspiracy!
The ESP takes the greatest of offence to the slanderous accusation that it may be involved in any conspiracy. If it were part of a conspiracy, it would not only admit to being part of one from the outset, but would also invite all voters or potential voters to become part of the conspiracy themselves.
Our lawyer, Colin the hamster, is currently looking into the possibility of suing you and whichever party you represent/support.
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 17:29
:eek: This election is a fraud! The enemies of the birthday party have excluded them!:eek: :eek:
Alrighty, that cinces it.
RIOT!!!!!!!!
I will smash a birthday cake or pie in the face of every election official I can until acknowledged.
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 17:38
As I've already informed you, the Birthday Party didn't meet the requirements to be recognised. You can't take part in an election without a full manifesto.
http://www.mctague.org/carl/fun/pie/pie-face-2.jpg
SMASH
(And WTF do you mean we can't stand for election becauise we don't have a "full manifesto". That's just plain stupid.)
Seosavists
18-03-2006, 17:39
The ESP takes the greatest of offence to the slanderous accusation that it may be involved in any conspiracy. If it were part of a conspiracy, it would not only admit to being part of one from the outset, but would also invite all voters or potential voters to become part of the conspiracy themselves.
Our lawyer, Colin the hamster, is currently looking into the possibility of suing you and whichever party you represent/support.
Uh oh, Err I support ESP! :p
I didn't vote for them though.
The Tribes Of Longton
18-03-2006, 18:01
Uh oh, Err I support ESP! :p
I didn't vote for them though.
To the white bit: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
VOTE ESP - WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, AND IT INVOLVES WHITE BITS.
BogMarsh
18-03-2006, 18:03
NBIP for UK equals OK.
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 18:05
Only 5.34%? Well, shit.
VOTE UDCP OR KANABIA DEVOURS YOUR SOUL
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 18:07
VOTE UDCP OR KANABIA DEVOURS YOUR SOUL
Jokes on you, I don't have a soul!
The Tribes Of Longton
18-03-2006, 18:07
VOTE UDCP OR KANABIA DEVOURS YOUR SOUL
DON'T WORRY KIDS, TRIBES HERE STOLE ALL OF KANABIA'S MINIONS. I'M CURRENTLY LEADING THEM AS A HARBINGER OF DOOM. HAVE A NICE AFTERLIFE.
VOTE ESP - WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DRINKING, AND IT ISN'T GUINNESS BECAUSE THAT WAS YESTERDAY. YES.
Mariehamn
18-03-2006, 18:08
VOTE UDCP OR KANABIA DEVOURS YOUR SOUL
*is not threatened*
Dude, I voted ESP. Free fecal slinging monkeys for everyone! Cheese, too!
DON'T WORRY KIDS, TRIBES HERE STOLE ALL OF KANABIA'S MINIONS. I'M CURRENTLY LEADING THEM AS A HARBINGER OF DOOM. HAVE A NICE AFTERLIFE.
VOTE ESP - WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DRINKING, AND IT ISN'T GUINNESS BECAUSE THAT WAS YESTERDAY. YES.
HA! I DONT NEED MINIONS TO DO *MY* DIRTY WORK! *DEVOURS SOUL* *DEFECEATES SOUL*
IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE EJECTED FROM KANABIAS RECTUM, VOTE UDCP!!!!
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8641/ad62si.png
Neo Kervoskia
18-03-2006, 18:11
What if you do? :confused:
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 18:15
Everyone, stop voting for ESP! They forgot to fund the Ministry for Silly Walks!
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8641/ad62si.png
Boring!
Vote UDCP!
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 18:21
http://nanopedia.cwru.edu/image/I.Robot.jpg
Trust us...
VOTE TECHNOCRAT
Because No Matter What, We Do Things Right
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 18:27
RIOT, RIOT, RIOT! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473611)
I URGE ALL PEOPLE TO WRITE IN THE BIRTHDAY PARTY, LEST DRACONIC DICTATORS USURP YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THE PAERTY OF YOUR CHOICE!!!!
SMASH ALL ELECTION "OFFICIALS" WITH PIES OR CAKES UNTIL THEYT RECOGNISE PARTIES PROPERLY!!!!
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 18:34
Everyone, stop voting for ESP! They forgot to fund the Ministry for Silly Walks!
What? Of course we funded said Ministry. It was part of our manifesto for the last election. And we shall continue to fund it in the forthcoming parliament! Silly walks for all! Especially Kanabia - shitting souls does some nasty things to your ass.
VOTE ESP! OTHER PEOPLE HAVE, SO NO ONE CAN HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE IF WE GET SOME POWER!
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 18:35
Two other points:
I think the use of size 7 has reached emphatically silly proportions. Thank you for your support.
Will the allocation of seats be done in the same way as for the last parliament? One seat for every 4% of the vote?
(And WTF do you mean we can't stand for election becauise we don't have a "full manifesto". That's just plain stupid.)
It's been the rule since the start. You were informed of it several times.
I would gladly have acknowledged your party had it met the requirements. There's no ban on humorous parties. As you can see, the ESP, MOBRA and the NBIP all met the requirements, and were entitled to take part.
The main reason for the rule is to prevent truly frivolous parties which start up and never get off the ground. In the lead-up to the 2nd election, there were over half a dozen of them. They mostly faded away before the election even began. Creating a manifesto shows at least a basic level of commitment to your own party, and suggests you'll keep it alive for a while. Also, the mods explicitly asked for the creation of new parties to be kept within reason. Hence the rules, which aim to limit parties from springing up merely to vanish again.
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 18:38
What? Of course we funded said Ministry. It was part of our manifesto for the last election. And we shall continue to fund it in the forthcoming parliament! Silly walks for all! Especially Kanabia - shitting souls does some nasty things to your ass.
VOTE ESP! OTHER PEOPLE HAVE, SO NO ONE CAN HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE IF WE GET SOME POWER!
It's not in your current manifesto! We have no guarantee that you're not going to drop funding and give it to more serious ministries! It's a conspiracy!
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 18:39
Vote TECHNOCRATIC Party
Policies for the future. Progress.
Will the allocation of seats be done in the same way as for the last parliament? One seat for every 4% of the vote?
In theory, yes. Unless you all want there to be a greater number of seats, in which case a lesser percentage will of course be needed for each seat.
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 18:46
It's been the rule since the start. You were informed of it several times.
Nope. the only requirement i was ever informed of wa that a party have more than one supporter.
Thus:
http://www.mctague.org/carl/fun/pie/pie-face-2.jpg
Plus one for Valoria:
http://www.mctague.org/carl/fun/pie/pie-face-2.jpg
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 18:48
Nope. the only requirement i was ever informed of wa that a party have more than one supporter.
Thus:
http://www.mctague.org/carl/fun/pie/pie-face-2.jpg
Plus one for Valoria:
http://www.mctague.org/carl/fun/pie/pie-face-2.jpg
GET A NEW PIE IMAGE ALREADY!
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 18:48
It's not in your current manifesto! We have no guarantee that you're not going to drop funding and give it to more serious ministries! It's a conspiracy!
An executive decision was taken by the executive of the ESP (me) when drawing up the current manifesto. We (I) felt it went without saying that we (I) would continue any and all promises we (I) made in our previous manifesto.
I pledge now that the ESP will pursue a policy of continuing funding for the Ministry of Silly Walks, and that this funding will be increased at least in line with the retail price index, if not more.
In a parliament in which the ESP holds any influence, there shall be attacks against any decision to fund so-called 'serious' ministries.
There is no conspiracy. You have just been brainwashed to believe there is.
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 18:51
GET A NEW PIE IMAGE ALREADY!
Hits Vegas-rex with:
http://www.gameops.com/image/content/pie_face.gif
Pure Metal
18-03-2006, 18:52
IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE EJECTED FROM KANABIAS RECTUM, VOTE UDCP!!!!
what he said *nods*
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 18:53
Well, it's never too late. :p
Although it may be due in part to the fact the DSP is drifting rightward...Well at least we're not on the radical side as you guys do. :p
Besides, we are the only moderate left to centre-left party in existance.
I decribe my view as moderate left-wing. ;)
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 18:55
Well at least we're not on the radical side as you guys do. :p
Besides, we are the only centre-left party in existance.
I decribe my view as moderate left-wing. ;)
We're center-left in many ways as well.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 18:55
I am a Liberal and a centrist for the most part. I have supported the Classic Liberal Party in the past but I reject the neoliberal, classic liberal approach. I prefer left-of-centre to neoliberalism.
I voted for the Democratic Socialist Party.Thanks for your support! ;)
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 18:57
We're center-left in many ways as well.
Dunno, but people prefer not to be ruled by robots. :p
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 18:57
Well at least we're not on the radical side as you guys do. :p
Besides, we are the only moderate left to centre-left party in existance.
I decribe my view as moderate left-wing. ;)
Hey, hey! The ESP is moderate left-wing. We have a moderate right-wing as well. We're really just covering all of our bases in an attempt to appeal to as many people as possible.
ESP! WE WILL WHORE OURSELVES TO YOUR EVERY DESIRE!
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 19:00
...
SMACK!!!!
http://www.childcancerfund.org/uploads/Pie_-_In_your_face.JPG
(And there's a lead bar in that one! You can figure out why, aftyer having encouraged and supported the Birthday party! :upyours: )
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 19:01
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Defending women's right to choose
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 19:03
Wow, looks like almost everybody but me resorted to mudslinging campaign. *nods*
:D
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 19:07
Numbers don't lie
People do
Vote Technocratic to get a party that pursues truth
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 19:08
Dunno, but people prefer not to be ruled by robots. :p
Meh. That's more the ad campaign then a concrete policy. Know what, we need ads with our human benefits...
Pure Metal
18-03-2006, 19:09
Wow, looks like almost everybody but me resorted to mudslinging campaign. *nods*
:D
http://www.bluechipreview.com/BW_MUDSLINGING.gif
*slings*
edit: VOTE UDCP!
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 19:10
Dunno, but people prefer not to be ruled by robots. :p
Come now! GW Bush, Stalin and Hitler were all people. Would you want to be ruled by them? This anti-robot bias is a threat to society. Anti-robotism is the new racism! Fight for what's right!
Vote Technocratic!!
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 19:15
Communists: The rota forces you into labor
Conservatives: Capitalism forces you into labor
DSP: Taxes force you into labor
ESP: Spiny Norman forces you into labor
VOTE TECHNOCRATIC
The Party that Aims to Make Labor Unnecessary
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 19:19
ESP: Spiny Norman forces you into labor
Spiny Norman? Who's Spiny Norman?
Nothing forces anyone into labour under the ESP. People's love of Marmite means there is no force involved.
Nope. the only requirement i was ever informed of wa that a party have more than one supporter.
*sighs*
This is getting tedious.
You read the OP in the thread for registering parties for this election, yes? Therefore you read this:
For those of you new to all this, you can find more information in these threads:
* the thread that started it all (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608) (contains information on starting your own party; please read it carefully, and especially this part (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9041641&postcount=170)!)
I couldn't have put it more clearly than "please read it carefully". That first link took you to the OP of the original thread, where you were able to read, in crystal-clear words:
Everyone is free (within reason) to create/start as many parties as they want, but every party, in order to be considered a genuine and official NS political party, must have a manifesto, which must be, at the very least, ten full lines in length. When a party has been created, anyone who is interested in it may join it. So you can create parties, and join other people's parties at the same time; after all, a one-person party doesn't make much sense, and the whole point of a party is for there to be several people in it.
Once people start joining a party, a thread can be created for it, where its participants discuss amongst themselves to come up with a manifesto. A manifesto can be anything from a statement of principles and beliefs, to a set of policies the party would like to see implemented world-wide if it had the power. Once a party has a manifesto, it is recognised as an official party, and can start campaigning, and stand in the poll that will eventually take place.
A party doesn't have to be serious, as long as it has a manifesto; serious parties and humorous parties are equally welcome. If people feel particularly committed, they can even create a website, logo, etc. . . for their party, but that of course is optional.
Bolding added.
I also informed you here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10579142&postcount=308) and here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10583553&postcount=398). You were therefore informed specifically three times. And I'm not responsible for you not reading the OP, especially since the OP clearly directed you to the simple instructions you needed to follow.
Case closed.
Vegas-Rex
18-03-2006, 19:22
Spiny Norman? Who's Spiny Norman?
Nothing forces anyone into labour under the ESP. People's love of Marmite means there is no force involved.
DINSDALE!!!
Anyway, who do you have working in the marmite mines, huh?
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 19:25
Meh. That's more the ad campaign then a concrete policy. Know what, we need ads with our human benefits...
Do you want a party that believes in progress?
Do you want a government that can spend money efficiently?
Do you want a government that knows the true value of human happiness?
Vote Technocratic
For your family
http://www.apogee-studios.com/website/portrait_photos/images/Family-001.jpg
For your world
http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/learn/earth/images/earth01.jpg
For progress
http://www.businessnc.com/archives/2002/02/high_tech.jpg
Success is just a vote away
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 19:26
DINSDALE!!!
Anyway, who do you have working in the marmite mines, huh?
As I said in my above post, it is the peoples' love of Marmite (please use the correct capitalisation of the word, or I have no choice but to believe you are deliberately insulting the aims of my party) that gets them working in the mines. It is mined, processed, jarred, and released for sale/export by Marmite lovers.
I V Stalin
18-03-2006, 19:27
Do you want a party that believes in progress?
No.
Do you want a government that can spend money efficiently?
No.
Do you want a government that knows the true value of human happiness?
Yes.
Which is why I started the ESP. Vote ESP. We know the true value of human happiness, and it's measured in Marmite.
For your family
http://www.apogee-studios.com/website/portrait_photos/images/Family-001.jpg
Hey... those people don't look anything like my family... WHAT HAVE YOUR ROBOTS DONE TO THEM?!
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 19:35
Hey... those people don't look anything like my family... WHAT HAVE YOUR ROBOTS DONE TO THEM?!
We used a representative family. It would be inefficient to have pictures for every potential voters family plus acquiring said pictures might be considered stalking or something or at the very least require effort.
If you want to post a picture of your family you can go right ahead. Our robots will improve the world for them too.
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 19:39
*sighs*
This is getting tedious.
You read the OP in the thread for registering parties for this election, yes? Therefore you read this:
I couldn't have put it more clearly than "please read it carefully". That first link took you to the OP of the original thread, where you were able to read, in crystal-clear words:
Bolding added.
I also informed you here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10579142&postcount=308) and here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10583553&postcount=398). You were therefore informed specifically three times. And I'm not responsible for you not reading the OP, especially since the OP clearly directed you to the simple instructions you needed to follow.
Case closed.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473303
The Birthday Party platform thread. (For what it's worth, ya stinker.)
http://www.123presents.com/images/pie-in-face.jpg
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473303
Thank you, I've read it. I wanted to make sure you indeed had not got a full manifesto, as specified in the rules. You seem to be the only person who wasn't able to read those simple instructions properly.
I'm not going to waste any more time on this. Keep ranting if you want to; you're only making yourself look silly.
You've chosen to take a petty and vindicative approach to this, despite any fault in the matter lying squarely with you. On your head be the consequences. This matter is closed as far as I'm considered.
If you want to be discuss it in a civil manner, you can still let me know.
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 20:07
Technocratic Party
The party for efficiency
The party for progress
With enough robots anything can be done
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 20:14
Communists: The rota forces you into labor
Conservatives: Capitalism forces you into labor
DSP: Taxes force you into labor
ESP: Spiny Norman forces you into labor
VOTE TECHNOCRATIC
The Party that Aims to Make Labor UnnecessaryJesus christ man, not everybody is pregnant. :D jk
But really, where do people get their income? ;)
Daistallia 2104
18-03-2006, 20:16
If you want to be discuss it in a civil manner, you can still let me know.
As far as I'm concerned, a pie in the face is very civil. You wouldn't want us to be uncivil in our civil disobediece, would you? That'd just be silly...
(Shock and horror! The NS General election must follow the rules set by ??? to a martinet extrime, else ... well, the same old same old, and you affect nothing.)
Might as well allow the Birthday Party. We have the required number of voters and a platform. Excluding someone who randomly wanted to participate in your silliness, and followed your rules as explained, simply makes you look sad and silly.
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 20:35
Jesus christ man, not everybody is pregnant. :D jk
But really, where do people get their income? ;)
We aim to make labor unnecessary. This does not mean that we will immediately put it into effect, we obviously need to improve our technology, however, we heavily support policies that promote economic growth and technological improvement that will allow us to reach the stage of a robot based economy. As technology improves less and less labor will be needed to do certain jobs, our long term goal is to reach a point where labor is unnecessary. Eventually, technology will create most of our income as robots take over manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs. Of course, until we reach that point we have to use a pre-existing system, we favor regulated capitalism because we do not want too much bureacracy like might be made by a socialist system but we realize that capitalism has its weaknesses. We favor a mixed economy, and as such are a moderate party when it comes to economics.
"4. Unlike some Technocracies, we do not advocate the complete demise of the free market. We do however recognize the flaws in the market system and will intervene to correct them. If the market truly becomes untenable we will be willing to sacrifice it in favor of a more strictly planned system, but we will base such decisions on what benefits the market may be able to give."
Pure Metal
18-03-2006, 20:36
As far as I'm concerned, a pie in the face is very civil. You wouldn't want us to be uncivil in our civil disobediece, would you? That'd just be silly...
(Shock and horror! The NS General election must follow the rules set by ??? to a martinet extrime, else ... well, the same old same old, and you affect nothing.)
Might as well allow the Birthday Party. We have the required number of voters and a platform. Excluding someone who randomly wanted to participate in your silliness, and followed your rules as explained, simply makes you look sad and silly.
you do realise i'm actually laughing at you over this :p :p
i think this act of pettyness can simply be overlooked and ignored as of here on.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 20:57
We aim to make labor unnecessary. This does not mean that we will immediately put it into effect, we obviously need to improve our technology, however, we heavily support policies that promote economic growth and technological improvement that will allow us to reach the stage of a robot based economy. As technology improves less and less labor will be needed to do certain jobs, our long term goal is to reach a point where labor is unnecessary. Eventually, technology will create most of our income as robots take over manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs. Of course, until we reach that point we have to use a pre-existing system, we favor regulated capitalism because we do not want too much bureacracy like might be made by a socialist system but we realize that capitalism has its weaknesses. We favor a mixed economy, and as such are a moderate party when it comes to economics.
"4. Unlike some Technocracies, we do not advocate the complete demise of the free market. We do however recognize the flaws in the market system and will intervene to correct them. If the market truly becomes untenable we will be willing to sacrifice it in favor of a more strictly planned system, but we will base such decisions on what benefits the market may be able to give."I do support the use of advanced techonlogy, the problem with your plan is: Less jobs for a fast growing population = higher unemployment rate = more people on welfare = social unrest = higher tax on the working families. Unless you're talking about more advanced technological development and engineering in NS that requires more people working on it, that's fine with me.
The Chinese Republics
18-03-2006, 21:09
This time...
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif
Supporting advanced technology development.
"Recognising that technology is of high value, the state will encourage technical businesses geared toward export, and will provide the appropriate education/training."
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.
*snip*
I think it would be better for your party if you decided to try again next election. You already have a manifesto, which you can build on if you need, and you have some members whom you can recruit next time. I think you would get more out of preparing for later rather than continuing to debate, which might continue to irritate some people who would have otherwise voted for you.
Santa Barbara
18-03-2006, 21:17
Only by violently uprising and gunning down anyone who disagrees with our radical minority views can we ensure a peaceful, utopian world!
VOTE MLP!
Holyawesomeness
18-03-2006, 21:22
I do support the use of advanced techonlogy, the problem with your plan is: Less jobs for a fast growing population = higher unemployment rate = more people on welfare = social unrest = higher tax on the working families. Unless you're talking about more advanced technological development and engineering in NS that requires more people working on it, that's fine with me.
Yeah, we'll need more technological development and engineering. There is a constant demand for people to do things and a technologically advanced society will allow even the members that have it worst to still have a better life than those in a less advanced society. Improvement needs a continual dedication to improvement and the need for improvement will be a driving force in our society. Look at every society and realize that it still has a lot more to do, mankind as a species has not reached its full potential.
Thriceaddict
18-03-2006, 21:26
Only by violently uprising and gunning down anyone who disagrees with our radical minority views can we ensure a peaceful, utopian world!
VOTE MLP!
A little contradicting, don't you think. You'd like Bush, he says the same kind of thing.