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Legless Pirates
29-11-2005, 22:49
So...... did you finally do her?
Grave_n_idle
29-11-2005, 22:52
Yeah...
He has posted like that in the past, and I really don't mind.
Let's all kiss and make up, eh?;)

It's all good. No broken bones and little or no blood.

It's just seems kinda gross when older guys drool over the teens....

(Especially when there seems to be a spike in such activity, the second a girl reveals a more 'liberal' sexuality... like there's suddenly something to 'prove').

My apologies to Carnivorous Lickers.
Maineiacs
29-11-2005, 23:35
It's funny how many people say that online.

It could well be this sort of selfish pride that negates her opinion of us men. Guys thinking about themselves all the time. Either we're loud and vain or quiet and introverted.

But you will get the odd "silent knight", who will devote themselves to you and fight emotional, mental, spiritual and physical battles with or for you for no reason other than sheer adoration. Granted, most of them are Christians, which means no sex for you. It's a personality archetype that goes generally unseen by a society that condemns misbehaviour but rewards not humility and empathy; the remnants of a dying age of chivalry.

Anyway, good luck either way. If you do decide to "test drive" (not a particularly nice term, but anyway) your young ladyfriends, have fun! Not treating it as a serious study is more likely to provide you with a full and balanced analysis afterwards.


Which is why I have lots of female friends and no girlfriend. (Well, I'm not a devout christian, but the same principle applies)
Dark Wolfen
30-11-2005, 10:29
Which is why I have lots of female friends and no girlfriend. (Well, I'm not a devout christian, but the same principle applies)
Same for me im not a christian at all its just the way i am.

Yuujou, I think it's cool that you used your first post to post in my thread. Welcome to NS General!
I did the same, no commotion for me..... but then again im used to that sort of stuff.

Yeah...
He has posted like that in the past, and I really don't mind.
Let's all kiss and make up, eh?
that seems the easiest thing to do
Oxwana
30-11-2005, 20:17
I did the same, no commotion for me..... but then again im used to that sort of stuff.Did you really?
Sweet!
I'm flattered, and sorry that I didn't notice at the time.
Oxwana
30-11-2005, 20:23
So today when I checked my e-mail, I had one from Lolita!
She sent it out of nowhere, not even in response to one of the ones I sent weeks ago...

hey ,

i just wanted to see how you are doin and hope you get better soon, we all miss you at work.

sorry abou your foot. see you soon.

talk to you later,

[Lolita]While I would like to think that "we all miss you at work" is code for "I miss you and can't live without you", my bestfriend says that Lola's just interested in me when I lose interest.
What do you all think? Maybe I just scared her away before, and now it'll go back to the way it was before I told her I liked her.
Or maybe she's still playing games...
Grave_n_idle
30-11-2005, 21:11
So today when I checked my e-mail, I had one from Lolita!
She sent it out of nowhere, not even in response to one of the ones I sent weeks ago...

While I would like to think that "we all miss you at work" is code for "I miss you and can't live without you", my bestfriend says that Lola's just interested in me when I lose interest.
What do you all think? Maybe I just scared her away before, and now it'll go back to the way it was before I told her I liked her.
Or maybe she's still playing games...

I think she's a little insecure, maybe unsure of her own gender orientation, and likes the attention... and then feels freaked out BECAUSE she likes the attention. And then acts weird because she feels freaked out.
DEAE
30-11-2005, 22:30
i think you should ignore her completely and see what happens..
Oxwana
30-11-2005, 22:55
I think she's a little insecure, maybe unsure of her own gender orientation, and likes the attention... and then feels freaked out BECAUSE she likes the attention. And then acts weird because she feels freaked out.But she's been out since she was 12, and has had more than one serious girlfriend. She is very secure about her sexuality, I know that. Unless, of course, she's a fake lesbian, which Em still believes she is. It'd make sense... I mean, how else would she have managed to resist me for so long?
Gymoor II The Return
30-11-2005, 23:00
All in all, I think people spend too much time wondering what they think and what others think and not enough time just enjoying the company of others.

There's no magical line seperating one kind of relationship from another. It's a whole spectrum of complex feelings. Just feel what you feel and don't worry about labeling it. Sheesh.
Megaloria
30-11-2005, 23:04
But she's been out since she was 12, and has had more than one serious girlfriend. She is very secure about her sexuality, I know that. Unless, of course, she's a fake lesbian, which Em still believes she is. It'd make sense... I mean, how else would she have managed to resist me for so long?

Precisely. I'd be all over you regardless of my gender.
DEAE
30-11-2005, 23:15
All in all, I think people spend too much time wondering what they think and what others think and not enough time just enjoying the company of others.
That is incredibly confusing. How can people wonder what they think if they are thinking it? Second, it's impossible to avoid wondering what someone else is thinking. Or I think it is, anyway. I have never thought about it before while in a conversation.
DEAE
01-12-2005, 01:22
Any new updates? This sucks. I'm always on when no one else is on cuz of my stupid schedule that revolves solely around school.
Dyeria
01-12-2005, 01:33
Recently I've become uber attracted to two chicks.
The thing of it is, they both look like hot guys.
I daydream about kissing them and whatever, but I kind of wish that they were guys, because the thought of having sex with either of them isn't very appealing.
So am I a lesbian? I'm still really attracted to guys.
I'm thinking that maybe I'm just so horny that I'm attracted to everyone (going through a self-imposed dry-spell, which is Hell). Or, it could be that I'm so very pissed off at guys that I am willing myself to be a lesbot...:confused:
What do y'all think?



That is almost Really Hot. Hot, but not REAL hot...I hate manly women.:fluffle:
Oxwana
01-12-2005, 01:41
Any new updates? This sucks. I'm always on when no one else is on cuz of my stupid schedule that revolves solely around school.New updates from the past few hours?
Well, I got a snack, watched some tv, thought about maybe doing some homework, came back online...
:p
DEAE
01-12-2005, 01:53
New updates from the past few hours?
Well, I got a snack, watched some tv, thought about maybe doing some homework, came back online...
:p
lovely. i'm supposed to be doing homework right now but i'm not feeling too motivated.
Dark Wolfen
01-12-2005, 04:41
lovely. i'm supposed to be doing homework right now but i'm not feeling too motivated.
Yes very lovely......I wouldnt mind having homework right now it would give me something to do... but then again if i did have it i definitly wouldnt be doing it, as i never do:D
Svalbardania
01-12-2005, 11:48
Yes very lovely......I wouldnt mind having homework right now it would give me something to do... but then again if i did have it i definitly wouldnt be doing it, as i never do:D

I dont think I did more than a few hours of homework this year, and I'm at the smartest and hardest working school in the state...HAH!
Grave_n_idle
03-12-2005, 04:14
But she's been out since she was 12, and has had more than one serious girlfriend. She is very secure about her sexuality, I know that. Unless, of course, she's a fake lesbian, which Em still believes she is. It'd make sense... I mean, how else would she have managed to resist me for so long?

I'm inclined to agree with Em... maybe not in a cynical way.. she MAY be attracted to women, she may even WANT to be with women... but she may be conflicted by those feelings.

She might 'play games' as a defence mechanism... she may not even know she does it.
Oxwana
03-12-2005, 05:33
I'm inclined to agree with Em... maybe not in a cynical way.. she MAY be attracted to women, she may even WANT to be with women... but she may be conflicted by those feelings.

She might 'play games' as a defence mechanism... she may not even know she does it.Yeah... I do have to think back a bit now, but she was really, really nice when I first knew her. The coolest, most fun to work with ever. At first, I found it really hard to believe that she was purposely messing with my head... Maybe I'm not giving her enough credit; maybe she really doesn't realize what she's doing.
DMG
03-12-2005, 05:51
I don't really have time to read through the thread, considering there are 52 pages, but my short answer would be its possible, though I believe not - for two main reasons.

1) If you are normally attracted to guys, and there is a woman that looks like a guy... well than of course you would be attracted.

2) There are such things as girl crushes in which heterosexual woman develop crushes on other females. They are not considered lesbien and sometimes have nothing to do with appearance or sex.
Ravenshrike
03-12-2005, 05:56
I don't really have time to read through the thread
Reading through the thread, or at least the last 10 pages would probably have been a good idea. :headbang:
Oxwana
03-12-2005, 05:59
2) There are such things as girl crushes in which heterosexual woman develop crushes on other females. They are not considered lesbien and sometimes have nothing to do with appearance or sex.Yeah... It has a lot to do with sex.
Svalbardania
03-12-2005, 08:45
Looks like DMG got shot down... you know, reading before posting is usually a good idea
The Outlaw States
03-12-2005, 11:48
Looks like DMG got shot down... you know, reading before posting is usually a good idea

agreed, lol.

Oxwana, how long u gonna b stuck at home and unable to go into school to see 'Risa'?
Oxwana
03-12-2005, 18:41
agreed, lol.

Oxwana, how long u gonna b stuck at home and unable to go into school to see 'Risa'?I'm going back to school on Monday, unless I decide to skip to spend time with my best friend who's visiting from Ottawa.:D
There'll be a GSA meeting Tuesday, so I'll see her then at the very latest.
Microscopian
05-12-2005, 02:41
Um, I know this is a little late, but eariler, you said something about Lolita already being in a relationship, I think... That could be why she is acting confusing. Maby she is more attached then she let on... I duno.
Hiyo, me first post ((And I read through all 52 pages first)) Get well soon, Oxwana
Ma-tek
05-12-2005, 02:58
i think you should ignore her completely and see what happens..

Yikes. Why would she do that? That's like... scary-freaky-space, right there. Ohh, the angst that brings. What if they ignore me back, what if, what if, what if? Yikes.

Nooo, do not go there. That is the Dark Side. And it shall claim ye if ye let it.

Really.
Oxwana
05-12-2005, 13:13
Um, I know this is a little late, but eariler, you said something about Lolita already being in a relationship, I think... That could be why she is acting confusing. Maby she is more attached then she let on... I duno.Yeah... There are so many possible explinations for her weird behaviour, but it's not like I really have to know her motivations right now. I just wish I could predict what she'll do next. The suspense is killing me...

Hiyo, me first post ((And I read through all 52 pages first)) Get well soon, Oxwanayay
You get a gold star, definitly. Welocme to NS general.
Oxwana
05-12-2005, 13:15
Yikes. Why would she do that? That's like... scary-freaky-space, right there. Ohh, the angst that brings. What if they ignore me back, what if, what if, what if? Yikes.

Nooo, do not go there. That is the Dark Side. And it shall claim ye if ye let it.

Really.I know. I actually mean it when I say I don't play games.
She sent me an e-mail a few days ago, right? I responded the same day. I got her e-mail, and I wanted to say hi, so even though all my friends were like, "Make her wait", I didn't go there.
And I haven't heard back from her since, and I know that she checks her e-mail every day. I guess she's still playing games...
Microscopian
05-12-2005, 23:02
Well I'm still wishing you all the luck there is. Ansd thanks for the star *boldly parades with star on forehead*
Dark Wolfen
06-12-2005, 05:58
Well I'm still wishing you all the luck there is. Ansd thanks for the star *boldly parades with star on forehead*
Me too but not the star part of course

I know. I actually mean it when I say I don't play games.
She sent me an e-mail a few days ago, right? I responded the same day. I got her e-mail, and I wanted to say hi, so even though all my friends were like, "Make her wait", I didn't go there.
And I haven't heard back from her since, and I know that she checks her e-mail every day. I guess she's still playing games...
hmm.. id guess she still is as well...
Maineiacs
06-12-2005, 07:36
I know. I actually mean it when I say I don't play games.
She sent me an e-mail a few days ago, right? I responded the same day. I got her e-mail, and I wanted to say hi, so even though all my friends were like, "Make her wait", I didn't go there.
And I haven't heard back from her since, and I know that she checks her e-mail every day. I guess she's still playing games...


Sounds like she might be, hon. Hopefully she'll wake up and get her head on straight.
Microscopian
06-12-2005, 21:57
Sounds like she might be, hon. Hopefully she'll wake up and get her head on straight.
But not too straight ;)
Ma-tek
06-12-2005, 22:27
I know. I actually mean it when I say I don't play games.
She sent me an e-mail a few days ago, right? I responded the same day. I got her e-mail, and I wanted to say hi, so even though all my friends were like, "Make her wait", I didn't go there.
And I haven't heard back from her since, and I know that she checks her e-mail every day. I guess she's still playing games...

Could be games. Or could be she's scared. Either way, patience* is no doubt the key, since you aren't gonna find out til you....

Well, find out. *wry grin*

(*Ick. Patience. I'm so sick of patience I could rant for a year.

But I'm far too impatient to waste the time typing.
Hehehe.

Okay, so I'm not impatient at all, really. Not with important stuff. Just with... food. Why does food take so damn long to cook, but so little time to eat? WHY?

Sorry, got a bit off-topic, there. >.>

I suspect I'm hungry.)
Oxwana
07-12-2005, 02:04
Could be games. Or could be she's scared. Either way, patience* is no doubt the key, since you aren't gonna find out til you....You are so, so wise...
And I'm a very happy girl.
I went in to work today to study for this huge math test Thursday, for which I'm not prepeared (naturally). I gimped in, and was minding my own business... Ordered some tea, was chatting with my coworkers behind the counter... And Lolita nodded at me from across the store in drive thru. She was acting all cool about it, so I just smiled, thinking that she was still just messing with me. I sit down, study for an hour and a half, then go back for another caffeine fix. And guess who comes over to talk to me? Who is all earnest and friendly? Who asks when I'll be coming back to work, then asks again when I make a joke about retiring? She was being shockingly nice, but I'm kind of out of it on painkillers (I think I re-broke the ankle after having a few too many Saturday), so I think I came across as a little cold. It's something that I'd never do on purpose, but it's probably a good thing.

I also got home to a response to this e-mail:
"hey
>It's sweet of you to say that ppl miss me at work... I already knew
>that [Mrs. Boss] misses me though; she told my mum that I should go back
>as soon as my doctor says it's ok, even if my doctor isn't 100%
>sure. lol
>Is it really busy?
>I'm so bored b/c I'm not going to school either. I'm home all day,
>and it sucks.
>I think I'm going back to work in about a week. Will you still be
>there? I hope that things went ok with training for that new job.
>[Oxwana]"

I sent it exactly a week ago, and lo and behold:
"well yea im doing bother jobs and as for missing you at work. theres no bop bops [my happy noise, don't ask] and looks n e more im boared. although there is like a million new ppl and me as a trainey they think i can train people. but whatever its all good time goes by so much faster. but yea we all miss you and hope to see you soon .
talk to you later.
[Lolita]"

I knew that I was still irresistable. :D
Patience is indeed a virtue.

And yeah, did anyone else notice how her grammar and punctuation is slipping again? That e-mail was practically unintelligible. :(

Well, find out. *wry grin*I'm all over it.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
07-12-2005, 02:07
<snip>
I'm somewhat confused, and more than somewhat lazy. Can you give me your lesbian/straight status in an easily understandable form that doesn't involve reading the last dozen pages since I checked? Like maybe a pie graph, or something?
Oxwana
07-12-2005, 02:14
I'm somewhat confused, and more than somewhat lazy. Can you give me your lesbian/straight status in an easily understandable form that doesn't involve reading the last dozen pages since I checked? Like maybe a pie graph, or something?I like chicks, and chicks like me.
DEAE
07-12-2005, 02:16
so what's up with 'Rissa?
Nadkor
07-12-2005, 02:20
I like chicks, and chicks like me.
Yay.
Microscopian
07-12-2005, 02:40
Guys like her too... But (I) am just fine with my girl, so (I) am sending her suport from afar. I think...((Don't know where people live. The great NY for me!))
To the matter at hand... You could give her english lessons, as a personal tutor, as an exuse to be with her more. Oh, and teach her to spell too:p
Oxwana
07-12-2005, 02:43
so what's up with 'Rissa?I was all excited baout the GSA meeting today, but it was cancelled.:(
Turns out she wasn't at school anyway, so I didn't feel so bad in the end, but I haven't seen her much. I'm not sure how much she likes me...
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
07-12-2005, 02:58
I like chicks, and chicks like me.
OK, has it progressed to bed, yet? (Come to think of it, maybe I should make a flow chart of this whole thing. I could hang it on my wall for review periodically)
Oxwana
07-12-2005, 05:26
OK, has it progressed to bed, yet?Wasn't the "patience is a virtue" thing just covered?
It's just a matter of time, though, I'm sure.

(Come to think of it, maybe I should make a flow chart of this whole thing. I could hang it on my wall for review periodically)Send me a copy so I can keep track too...
Ma-tek
07-12-2005, 22:50
I don't think flow charts are as good as, say, video and photographic evidence.

But I'm male. This is my flaw.

Anyway, glad to hear you heard back. Yay! And other such expressions of gladness.
Candle Ice
07-12-2005, 23:02
(*Ick. Patience. I'm so sick of patience I could rant for a year.

But I'm far too impatient to waste the time typing.
Hehehe.

Okay, so I'm not impatient at all, really. Not with important stuff. Just with... food. Why does food take so damn long to cook, but so little time to eat? WHY?

Sorry, got a bit off-topic, there. >.>

I suspect I'm hungry.)
Exactly.

And i hate it when people say "Life is short"

What the frakkin hell??!!??!! life is the longest damn thing anyone does!! What, are YOU going to do something longer than life?!:headbang:

Little off topic, yes, but it needed to be said...
Oxwana
08-12-2005, 03:46
I don't think flow charts are as good as, say, video and photographic evidence.

But I'm male. This is my flaw.

Anyway, glad to hear you heard back. Yay! And other such expressions of gladness.And I just got a response to my response...
And she was all friendly at work again today.
I was chatting up some coworkers at the counter, and out of the corner of my eye, I noticed that she was trying to get my attention from across the store. I pretended not to notice, so she came over to me. That's right. No one can resist hot Oxwana loving for long.
Svalbardania
08-12-2005, 05:41
And I just got a response to my response...
And she was all friendly at work again today.
I was chatting up some coworkers at the counter, and out of the corner of my eye, I noticed that she was trying to get my attention from across the store. I pretended not to notice, so she came over to me. That's right. No one can resist hot Oxwana loving for long.

So very true.
Dwater
08-12-2005, 06:58
And I just got a response to my response...
And she was all friendly at work again today.
I was chatting up some coworkers at the counter, and out of the corner of my eye, I noticed that she was trying to get my attention from across the store. I pretended not to notice, so she came over to me. That's right. No one can resist hot Oxwana loving for long.

All you have been trough (yes, I have read all of the posts, took me over 2 hours!:) ) sounds like fun.
but then again, I find such things entertaining.
I look on it as playing chess, you make one move, the other makes a move.
You try to lay up a strategy, but it kinda gets messed up because the other part doesn't do as you preticted.
then things are starting to go your way again, but then everything goes bad again.
I envy you.
Or not really, since I have just finished a session of something similar in content.
Ok, I envy you.

But of course, you might not find it as interesting as I do.
I just love to be totally messed up and find a way out of it.

But to get back to the topic again.
I hope you win your round in this "chess" game.
And if I have understood it right, all the effort will be worth it if you win, yes?
Dark Wolfen
09-12-2005, 06:01
All you have been trough (yes, I have read all of the posts, took me over 2 hours!:) ) sounds like fun.
but then again, I find such things entertaining.
I look on it as playing chess, you make one move, the other makes a move.
You try to lay up a strategy, but it kinda gets messed up because the other part doesn't do as you preticted.
then things are starting to go your way again, but then everything goes bad again.
I envy you.
Or not really, since I have just finished a session of something similar in content.
Ok, I envy you.

But of course, you might not find it as interesting as I do.
I just love to be totally messed up and find a way out of it.

But to get back to the topic again.
I hope you win your round in this "chess" game.
And if I have understood it right, all the effort will be worth it if you win, yes?
Yes..it definitely will
i do enjoy finding a way out of being messed up but i dont really enjoy the being messed up in the first place.
Some of the time i dont lay up a strategy i just wait and see wat happens and react in turn.
Ma-tek
10-12-2005, 02:05
And I just got a response to my response...
And she was all friendly at work again today.
I was chatting up some coworkers at the counter, and out of the corner of my eye, I noticed that she was trying to get my attention from across the store. I pretended not to notice, so she came over to me. That's right. No one can resist hot Oxwana loving for long.

I don't doubt that. *lecherous peer at the 'xw' combination in the middle of your username* Rrrrrr.

*shiftyeyes*

Now... Back to behaving, methinks. *sweet smile*

Exactly.

And i hate it when people say "Life is short"

What the frakkin hell??!!??!! life is the longest damn thing anyone does!! What, are YOU going to do something longer than life?!

Sometimes the trip to the supermarket feels longer.
DEAE
11-12-2005, 05:13
Anything new?
Oxwana
11-12-2005, 06:42
Anything new?Kind of.
I went in to work again to study on Friday, and Lolita was friendly, and helped me carry my tea to my table... She also called me "gimpy", but in the most affectionate way. :rolleyes:
She'd do things like brush past me when I used the phone to call my dad to come get me, or gravitate towards me when she wasn't busy. I'm not quite sure what that all means, but I think it's good.
Either that, or she was just bored.
I went over to a friend's house after I got home, and Chris wanted to get donuts on the way, so we stopped at my work, and went through drive-thru. Guess who was waiting at the window?
My lady love teased me about liking work too much, chatted till there was a line, then said, "Can I get you anything else?".
"What are you offering?" I replied.
She shut the window on us, but she did it with a smile.

I went into the library second spare on Thursday to make posters for the GSA, and who should I find there, but Risa. She had just finished a paper, so we spent the rest of the period making posters, and flirting.
She asked me why I never update my blog (so she must check it to know that, eh?). That night, I told her that I liked her in the most cowardly way ever conceived of. I updated my blog, then told her to check it. I promptly blocked her, and I'm too chicken shit to find out how she reacted.
Grave_n_idle
11-12-2005, 07:15
Kind of.
I went in to work again to study on Friday, and Lolita was friendly, and helped me carry my tea to my table... She also called me "gimpy", but in the most affectionate way. :rolleyes:
She'd do things like brush past me when I used the phone to call my dad to come get me, or gravitate towards me when she wasn't busy. I'm not quite sure what that all means, but I think it's good.
Either that, or she was just bored.
I went over to a friend's house after I got home, and Chris wanted to get donuts on the way, so we stopped at my work, and went through drive-thru. Guess who was waiting at the window?
My lady love teased me about liking work too much, chatted till there was a line, then said, "Can I get you anything else?".
"What are you offering?" I replied.
She shut the window on us, but she did it with a smile.

I went into the library second spare on Thursday to make posters for the GSA, and who should I find there, but Risa. She had just finished a paper, so we spent the rest of the period making posters, and flirting.
She asked me why I never update my blog (so she must check it to know that, eh?). That night, I told her that I liked her in the most cowardly way ever conceived of. I updated my blog, then told her to check it. I promptly blocked her, and I'm too chicken shit to find out how she reacted.

You told her you liked her.... then you blocked her?

And, by 'blocked her'... that's not some cute euphemism for something... right?

You know... you ARE going to encounter her again, sometime... wouldn't it be less stressful to have found her response in digital form?
Oxwana
11-12-2005, 07:19
You told her you liked her.... then you blocked her?Maybe...

And, by 'blocked her'... that's not some cute euphemism for something... right?If it is, then she can "block" me any day. But it's not.

You know... you ARE going to encounter her again, sometime... wouldn't it be less stressful to have found her response in digital form?I didn't say I thought things through, I just said that I blocked her. It's not like she knows that I blocked her.
Grave_n_idle
11-12-2005, 07:23
Maybe...

If it is, then she can "block" me any day. But it's not.

I didn't say I thought things through, I just said that I blocked her. It's not like she knows that I blocked her.

So - she doesn't even KNOW she's blocked?

So... she could be sending you digital lurve, and she doesn't know it's not getting through... and YOU don't know she's sending it.... and she doesn't know why you aren't sending her digital lurve back...
Oxwana
11-12-2005, 07:25
So - she doesn't even KNOW she's blocked?

So... she could be sending you digital lurve, and she doesn't know it's not getting through... and YOU don't know she's sending it.... and she doesn't know why you aren't sending her digital lurve back...When you block someone, they can't tell that you're online.
Do you really think she's sending me digital love?
I wonder if she has a webcam...
Grave_n_idle
11-12-2005, 07:37
When you block someone, they can't tell that you're online.
Do you really think she's sending me digital love?
I wonder if she has a webcam...

:D

Aaah... THAT kind of block... you are just invisible. Okay.

I thought you meant you had blocked access to your blog, or something, so she couldn't respond.

Maybe she's NOT sending digital love.... maybe she's sitting there with big eyes, wishing you were online, so she COULD send you digitial love.... ;)
Dark Wolfen
11-12-2005, 10:12
:D

Aaah... THAT kind of block... you are just invisible. Okay.

I thought you meant you had blocked access to your blog, or something, so she couldn't respond.

Maybe she's NOT sending digital love.... maybe she's sitting there with big eyes, wishing you were online, so she COULD send you digitial love.... ;)
Maybe this......Maybe that...... what do i think??
I think MAYBE you should find this out...... I vote for unblocking her then you will know for sure and i think it would be less awkward then in person just my opinion...... but whos with me??????
The Outlaw States
11-12-2005, 10:34
Maybe this......Maybe that...... what do i think??
I think MAYBE you should find this out...... I vote for unblocking her then you will know for sure and i think it would be less awkward then in person just my opinion...... but whos with me??????

gotta say I agree totally.

Oxwana, what did you say in ur blog to let her know u lke her?
Ma-tek
11-12-2005, 20:36
Of course, if you wanted to be really cowardly, you could always log in, unblock, and then get someone else to read for you. You know, duck behind the sofa, cover eyes, fingers in ears for five minutes...

>.>

Not that I'd have ever done anything like that, you know.

<.<

Although it suddenly occurs to me that you'd need four hands to do the above, which, if you had four hands...

Actually, I'm steering clear of that one.
Oxwana
11-12-2005, 20:43
gotta say I agree totally.

Oxwana, what did you say in ur blog to let her know u lke her?I hadn't updated it in almost two months, so I just summarized my life. She was mentioned.

I also have my first schoolgirl crush ever. I never go for guys my age, so I've never crushed on someone I went to school with. Turns out, though, that I do like girls my age. I've been in the GSA at my school for four years, but I'm not gay. I like guys, and I've never been attracted to chicks before, so I just assumed that I was straight.
I'm not. A new girl at school joined the GSA, and I have had a huge crush on her all semester.. Risa is so pretty, and she's funny and she laughs a lot.
....
and the girl at school seems really honest and straight-forward, but I can't tell if she likes me...Except I used her real name.
And now I'm scared. Things will be weird if she doesn't like me.
I unblocked her, anyway.
Grave_n_idle
11-12-2005, 22:27
I hadn't updated it in almost two months, so I just summarized my life. She was mentioned.

Except I used her real name.
And now I'm scared. Things will be weird if she doesn't like me.
I unblocked her, anyway.

Well, unblocking was probably the right thing to do... at least now you can find out.... and, I guess, knowing one way OR the other must be some help.
Microscopian
11-12-2005, 22:39
Well you've got someone rooting for ya. I wish you all the luck in the world...
But... Now your on with both of them? What if they both start likeing you, and want to go out, at the same time...
Sorry, bad subject
Oxwana
11-12-2005, 23:51
Well, unblocking was probably the right thing to do... at least now you can find out.... and, I guess, knowing one way OR the other must be some help.Only problem is, she's not online, and now I'm desperate to know before I have to see her in person tomorrow at school...
Oxwana
11-12-2005, 23:52
Well you've got someone rooting for ya. I wish you all the luck in the world...
But... Now your on with both of them? What if they both start likeing you, and want to go out, at the same time...
Sorry, bad subjectI'm not into serious relationships, so it's all good.
Thanks for the support!:)
Nureonia
11-12-2005, 23:54
I'm not into serious relationships, so it's all good.
Thanks for the support!:)

Good luck!

Personally, though, I don't block after I say that. I go curl under some blankets for a few minutes while I work up the willpower to see how they replied.
Grave_n_idle
12-12-2005, 00:08
Only problem is, she's not online, and now I'm desperate to know before I have to see her in person tomorrow at school...

Well.... how could she resist? :)
Misunderestimates
12-12-2005, 00:22
Wow, this thread is STILL alive?o.O

Captain to base, refill the pepsi machines and stock the popcorn makers, were going into extra innings...
Microscopian
12-12-2005, 01:32
POPCORN!!!!!
*Ahem* Sorry. Did she reply to the blog at all? If not, well, have fun at school tomorow;) :fluffle: ;)
DEAE
12-12-2005, 03:35
Only problem is, she's not online, and now I'm desperate to know before I have to see her in person tomorrow at school...
Good luck!!!
Danmarc
12-12-2005, 03:39
Recently I've become uber attracted to two chicks.
The thing of it is, they both look like hot guys.
I daydream about kissing them and whatever, but I kind of wish that they were guys, because the thought of having sex with either of them isn't very appealing.
So am I a lesbian? I'm still really attracted to guys.
I'm thinking that maybe I'm just so horny that I'm attracted to everyone (going through a self-imposed dry-spell, which is Hell). Or, it could be that I'm so very pissed off at guys that I am willing myself to be a lesbot...:confused:
What do y'all think?

Is there a picture of Goddess Oxwana out there somewhere??? Dying to see
Oxwana
12-12-2005, 04:32
Well.... how could she resist? :)Exactly!
Maybe I'll wear a really low-cut top tomorrow; I hear she has a thing for stacked chicks...
>schemes some more<
Oxwana
12-12-2005, 04:33
Is there a picture of Goddess Oxwana out there somewhere??? Dying to seeThere is one on this site somewhere. If you can find it, you can see it.
Dark Wolfen
12-12-2005, 12:34
There is one on this site somewhere. If you can find it, you can see it.
That sounds like a challenge for... someone who has ALOT of spare time.

And Good luck with Risa!!!! hope she likes you too! :D .
Ma-tek
12-12-2005, 13:34
Morning, and all that. - I think it'd be morning somewhere, anyway, so that seems as good an opening sentence as any.

It suddenly occurred to me, while I was sleepily peering at my subscriptions page - good grief, what if the makers of Big Brother/Survivor/Insert Name of Annoying Reality TV Show Here saw how many reads this thread has had?

Yes. Yes, it is a horrifying thought.
Oxwana
12-12-2005, 22:10
That sounds like a challenge for... someone who has ALOT of spare time.

And Good luck with Risa!!!! hope she likes you too! :D .She does!!!
OMG, today was the best day ever!
I came in late in the morning, and chatted with friends in the DC department for a while before gimping up to my locker. When I got up there, I found that all of the GSA posters in that hallway had been ripped up and torn down. It's hardly heart-breaking, and I'm used to it. I happened to have new posters in my bag anyway, so I taped one up on the lockers of the two girls who had had posters on their lockers. I didn't want my friends to have to see that kind of hate, so I left happy messages on their lockers.:)
After first period, I went back to my locker, and when I saw Risa and Heather, I told them that the posters were from me. Neither of them had seen the defaced posters, so it must have happened at the beginning of first...
I told the girls that it was all good, because I would be making posters again second period, and Risa wanted to help me.
In the library, she told me that she had read my blog late last night... She then proceeded to flirt outrageously with me all period. Like, we talked about nothing but sex.
We have a standing verbal agreement to get really drunk and have lesbian sex on one of the tables at McDoe's (they treated her like shit because she's gay, and she just quit). She also asked me to eat lunch with her and some other girls from the GSA, and several of them said that we "made a cute couple". I saw Em in the halls for the first time in forever, and she was like, "You and Risa are dating, right?". She said we looked like a couple when she had seen us together in the halls.
Where the hell is the "on cloud nine" smilie???
After class when I saw her by my locker again, we chatted for a long time, then she said, "In the library again tomorrow?" I said sure, and she said, "it's a date", and smiled at me. She has a beautiful smile.
Guys, I think I'm in love.
Grave_n_idle
12-12-2005, 22:18
She does!!!
OMG, today was the best day ever!
I came in late in the morning, and chatted with friends in the DC department for a while before gimping up to my locker. When I got up there, I found that all of the GSA posters in that hallway had been ripped up and torn down. It's hardly heart-breaking, and I'm used to it. I happened to have new posters in my bag anyway, so I taped one up on the lockers of the two girls who had had posters on their lockers. I didn't want my friends to have to see that kind of hate, so I left happy messages on their lockers.:)
After first period, I went back to my locker, and when I saw Risa and Heather, I told them that the posters were from me. Neither of them had seen the defaced posters, so it must have happened at the beginning of first...
I told the girls that it was all good, because I would be making posters again second period, and Risa wanted to help me.
In the library, she told me that she had read my blog late last night... She then proceeded to flirt outrageously with me all period. Like, we talked about nothing but sex.
We have a standing verbal agreement to get really drunk and have lesbian sex on one of the tables at McDoe's (they treated her like shit because she's gay, and she just quit). She also asked me to eat lunch with her and some other girls from the GSA, and several of them said that we "made a cute couple". I saw Em in the halls for the first time in forever, and she was like, "You and Risa are dating, right?". She said we looked like a couple when she had seen us together in the halls.
Where the hell is the "on cloud nine" smilie???
After class when I saw her by my locker again, we chatted for a long time, then she said, "In the library again tomorrow?" I said sure, and she said, "it's a date", and smiled at me. She has a beautiful smile.
Guys, I think I'm in love.

That is so sweet. :)

Brought a smile to the face of one confirmed 'old cynic', anyway. :)

Good luck with it....
Nureonia
12-12-2005, 22:42
She does!!!
OMG, today was the best day ever!
I came in late in the morning, and chatted with friends in the DC department for a while before gimping up to my locker. When I got up there, I found that all of the GSA posters in that hallway had been ripped up and torn down. It's hardly heart-breaking, and I'm used to it. I happened to have new posters in my bag anyway, so I taped one up on the lockers of the two girls who had had posters on their lockers. I didn't want my friends to have to see that kind of hate, so I left happy messages on their lockers.:)
After first period, I went back to my locker, and when I saw Risa and Heather, I told them that the posters were from me. Neither of them had seen the defaced posters, so it must have happened at the beginning of first...
I told the girls that it was all good, because I would be making posters again second period, and Risa wanted to help me.
In the library, she told me that she had read my blog late last night... She then proceeded to flirt outrageously with me all period. Like, we talked about nothing but sex.
We have a standing verbal agreement to get really drunk and have lesbian sex on one of the tables at McDoe's (they treated her like shit because she's gay, and she just quit). She also asked me to eat lunch with her and some other girls from the GSA, and several of them said that we "made a cute couple". I saw Em in the halls for the first time in forever, and she was like, "You and Risa are dating, right?". She said we looked like a couple when she had seen us together in the halls.
Where the hell is the "on cloud nine" smilie???
After class when I saw her by my locker again, we chatted for a long time, then she said, "In the library again tomorrow?" I said sure, and she said, "it's a date", and smiled at me. She has a beautiful smile.
Guys, I think I'm in love.

Awww. <3
Maineiacs
12-12-2005, 23:15
She does!!!
OMG, today was the best day ever!
I came in late in the morning, and chatted with friends in the DC department for a while before gimping up to my locker. When I got up there, I found that all of the GSA posters in that hallway had been ripped up and torn down. It's hardly heart-breaking, and I'm used to it. I happened to have new posters in my bag anyway, so I taped one up on the lockers of the two girls who had had posters on their lockers. I didn't want my friends to have to see that kind of hate, so I left happy messages on their lockers.:)
After first period, I went back to my locker, and when I saw Risa and Heather, I told them that the posters were from me. Neither of them had seen the defaced posters, so it must have happened at the beginning of first...
I told the girls that it was all good, because I would be making posters again second period, and Risa wanted to help me.
In the library, she told me that she had read my blog late last night... She then proceeded to flirt outrageously with me all period. Like, we talked about nothing but sex.
We have a standing verbal agreement to get really drunk and have lesbian sex on one of the tables at McDoe's (they treated her like shit because she's gay, and she just quit). She also asked me to eat lunch with her and some other girls from the GSA, and several of them said that we "made a cute couple". I saw Em in the halls for the first time in forever, and she was like, "You and Risa are dating, right?". She said we looked like a couple when she had seen us together in the halls.
Where the hell is the "on cloud nine" smilie???
After class when I saw her by my locker again, we chatted for a long time, then she said, "In the library again tomorrow?" I said sure, and she said, "it's a date", and smiled at me. She has a beautiful smile.
Guys, I think I'm in love.

Congratulations, sweetie. :fluffle: Keep us posted, and wish me luck with my new internet romance. ;)
Jester III
12-12-2005, 23:55
Whoah, that took long to read.
I wish you good luck in finding out what exactly is up. From what i read i'd say Risa is the one to go for, in case you are still unsure about that.
Oxwana
13-12-2005, 01:19
That is so sweet. :)

Brought a smile to the face of one confirmed 'old cynic', anyway. :)

Good luck with it....yay
Thank you.

Awww. <3I know, eh?

Congratulations, sweetie. :fluffle: Keep us posted, and wish me luck with my new internet romance. ;)Thank you and good luck.

I wish you good luck in finding out what exactly is up. From what i read i'd say Risa is the one to go for, in case you are still unsure about that.I know. Trust me, I know. Screw that other chick.

Oh wow. I’m still silly happy. I can’t wait to see her tomorrow. Thank you so much for all the support, guys.
Cuneo Island
13-12-2005, 01:22
Tell me a bit more about yourself and I'll decide if you're lesbo or straight.

Meanwhile, I'd like to invite you to the club I used to run, now it's called Paradise Club.
DEAE
13-12-2005, 01:29
She does!!!
OMG, today was the best day ever!
I came in late in the morning, and chatted with friends in the DC department for a while before gimping up to my locker. When I got up there, I found that all of the GSA posters in that hallway had been ripped up and torn down. It's hardly heart-breaking, and I'm used to it. I happened to have new posters in my bag anyway, so I taped one up on the lockers of the two girls who had had posters on their lockers. I didn't want my friends to have to see that kind of hate, so I left happy messages on their lockers.:)
After first period, I went back to my locker, and when I saw Risa and Heather, I told them that the posters were from me. Neither of them had seen the defaced posters, so it must have happened at the beginning of first...
I told the girls that it was all good, because I would be making posters again second period, and Risa wanted to help me.
In the library, she told me that she had read my blog late last night... She then proceeded to flirt outrageously with me all period. Like, we talked about nothing but sex.
We have a standing verbal agreement to get really drunk and have lesbian sex on one of the tables at McDoe's (they treated her like shit because she's gay, and she just quit). She also asked me to eat lunch with her and some other girls from the GSA, and several of them said that we "made a cute couple". I saw Em in the halls for the first time in forever, and she was like, "You and Risa are dating, right?". She said we looked like a couple when she had seen us together in the halls.
Where the hell is the "on cloud nine" smilie???
After class when I saw her by my locker again, we chatted for a long time, then she said, "In the library again tomorrow?" I said sure, and she said, "it's a date", and smiled at me. She has a beautiful smile.
Guys, I think I'm in love.
YAY!!! that's so cute. Alright, keep us posted. We wanna hear all the dirty details.. I'm amazed that I'm soo happy for you. Maybe it's all the time I've invested in this thread.
Svalbardania
13-12-2005, 02:13
YAY!!! that's so cute. Alright, keep us posted. We wanna hear all the dirty details.. I'm amazed that I'm soo happy for you. Maybe it's all the time I've invested in this thread.

And it most certainly has been a LOT of time

But well worth it...sort of:p
Oxwana
13-12-2005, 02:15
YAY!!! that's so cute. Alright, keep us posted. We wanna hear all the dirty details.. I'm amazed that I'm soo happy for you. Maybe it's all the time I've invested in this thread.You have no idea how I appreciate it. Thank you.
Microscopian
13-12-2005, 03:40
You go girl. I wish you and Risa LOADS of "fun":fluffle:
Now to go look for that pic...
JuNii
13-12-2005, 03:43
Glad to hear things are going well for you Oxwana. :)
Grave_n_idle
13-12-2005, 05:25
You go girl. I wish you and Risa LOADS of "fun":fluffle:
Now to go look for that pic...

Try looking in the "Player Information" thread, perhaps?
Dark Wolfen
13-12-2005, 11:06
She does!!!
OMG, today was the best day ever!
I came in late in the morning, and chatted with friends in the DC department for a while before gimping up to my locker. When I got up there, I found that all of the GSA posters in that hallway had been ripped up and torn down. It's hardly heart-breaking, and I'm used to it. I happened to have new posters in my bag anyway, so I taped one up on the lockers of the two girls who had had posters on their lockers. I didn't want my friends to have to see that kind of hate, so I left happy messages on their lockers.
After first period, I went back to my locker, and when I saw Risa and Heather, I told them that the posters were from me. Neither of them had seen the defaced posters, so it must have happened at the beginning of first...
I told the girls that it was all good, because I would be making posters again second period, and Risa wanted to help me.
In the library, she told me that she had read my blog late last night... She then proceeded to flirt outrageously with me all period. Like, we talked about nothing but sex.
We have a standing verbal agreement to get really drunk and have lesbian sex on one of the tables at McDoe's (they treated her like shit because she's gay, and she just quit). She also asked me to eat lunch with her and some other girls from the GSA, and several of them said that we "made a cute couple". I saw Em in the halls for the first time in forever, and she was like, "You and Risa are dating, right?". She said we looked like a couple when she had seen us together in the halls.
Where the hell is the "on cloud nine" smilie???
After class when I saw her by my locker again, we chatted for a long time, then she said, "In the library again tomorrow?" I said sure, and she said, "it's a date", and smiled at me. She has a beautiful smile.
Guys, I think I'm in love.
YAY!! thats so great!:D it brought a smile to my face too, makes me wish i was in the thread from the start.... but im still glad i could be involved in it at all.
i wish you all the luck in the world with Risa... although i dont beleive you need it;)
Delator
13-12-2005, 11:31
She does!!!
OMG, today was the best day ever!
*snip*
Guys, I think I'm in love.

Like many, MANY others, I have been following this thread for quite a while. I'm glad things worked out for you...and I had a feeling long ago (like around the second page!) that Risa was a better match for you.

Hope you two don't have too much fun...remember to come up for air! :p
Ma-tek
13-12-2005, 14:43
She does!!!
OMG, today was the best day ever!
>energy efficient snip<

(Energy efficient because I don't want to waste ink.)

...but just adding my gladness to everyone else's. Just goes to show that determination, patience, and a touch of guts goes a long way. ;)
Grave_n_idle
14-12-2005, 03:35
(Energy efficient because I don't want to waste ink.)

...but just adding my gladness to everyone else's. Just goes to show that determination, patience, and a touch of guts goes a long way. ;)

Also - didn't Oxwana say she was 'stacked'? And, didn't she say Risa likes 'stacked' girls?

I guess an attractive 'rack' goes a long way too... ;)

Of course, we ALL know Oxwana won out in the end, because she's just so irresistable, no? :)
Oxwana
14-12-2005, 05:19
Also - didn't Oxwana say she was 'stacked'? And, didn't she say Risa likes 'stacked' girls?

I guess an attractive 'rack' goes a long way too... ;)

Of course, we ALL know Oxwana won out in the end, because she's just so irresistable, no? :)I'd like to think that it's my winning smile that wins over the ladies, but I think it has more to do with my tatas. Either way, I'm irresistible.:D
Helped her with her essay today in the library. She was very, very grateful. She said , "Omg, I owe you".
"Owe me sexual favours?"
"Yes".
The thing of it is, though, that I can't get her to make a move. How does one get a chick to kiss her?
I think it might have something to do with the fact that we're always at the school when we're together. Maybe I'll ask her to go on a coffee run with me tomorrow...
Svalbardania
14-12-2005, 06:48
I'd like to think that it's my winning smile that wins over the ladies, but I think it has more to do with my tatas. Either way, I'm irresistible.:D
Helped her with her essay today in the library. She was very, very grateful. She said , "Omg, I owe you".
"Owe me sexual favours?"
"Yes".
The thing of it is, though, that I can't get her to make a move. How does one get a chick to kiss her?
I think it might have something to do with the fact that we're always at the school when we're together. Maybe I'll ask her to go on a coffee run with me tomorrow...

Yeah, probably a good idea, get her away from the school so you both feel more comfortable with...ehhem... each other.
The Outlaw States
14-12-2005, 07:03
I'd like to think that it's my winning smile that wins over the ladies, but I think it has more to do with my tatas. Either way, I'm irresistible.:D
Helped her with her essay today in the library. She was very, very grateful. She said , "Omg, I owe you".
"Owe me sexual favours?"
"Yes".
The thing of it is, though, that I can't get her to make a move. How does one get a chick to kiss her?
I think it might have something to do with the fact that we're always at the school when we're together. Maybe I'll ask her to go on a coffee run with me tomorrow...

I also wanna say, well done, and congrats :)

I'd say that a coffee run sounds like a great idea :) Is there a route u can take that'll take u to a fairly quiet place where u could (if u can get the guts) kiss her? Or get her to kiss you?

Just go for it :)
Zexaland
14-12-2005, 08:42
I'd like to think that it's my winning smile that wins over the ladies, but I think it has more to do with my tatas. Either way, I'm irresistible.:D
Helped her with her essay today in the library. She was very, very grateful. She said , "Omg, I owe you".
"Owe me sexual favours?"
"Yes".
The thing of it is, though, that I can't get her to make a move. How does one get a chick to kiss her?
I think it might have something to do with the fact that we're always at the school when we're together. Maybe I'll ask her to go on a coffee run with me tomorrow...

Sigh. Why are all the interesting girls always either out of my league or gay?
Melkor Unchained
14-12-2005, 08:47
The oddest thing about this thread is that i just opened it for the first time about thirty seconds ago, and it said I alrady voted. :eek:
Economic Associates
14-12-2005, 09:01
The oddest thing about this thread is that i just opened it for the first time about thirty seconds ago, and it said I alrady voted. :eek:

Just slowly walk away from your computer.....wait a minute the post came from inside your house hurry run while you still can.
Dark Wolfen
14-12-2005, 10:28
I also wanna say, well done, and congrats :)

I'd say that a coffee run sounds like a great idea :) Is there a route u can take that'll take u to a fairly quiet place where u could (if u can get the guts) kiss her? Or get her to kiss you?

Just go for it :)
I agree with that... just go for it
Jester III
14-12-2005, 11:01
The thing of it is, though, that I can't get her to make a move. How does one get a chick to kiss her?
Dont wait for her to start something, kiss her first. She might have the same doubts. Had a similar problem with a woman some years back, we were both shy on starting anything and i lost her to someone who wasnt afraid to make a move.
And yes, outside campus should be better.
Potaria
14-12-2005, 11:02
The oddest thing about this thread is that i just opened it for the first time about thirty seconds ago, and it said I alrady voted. :eek:

*tosses you a double barreled .357 Magnum*
Yukonuthead the Fourth
14-12-2005, 11:57
We were both shy on starting anything and i lost her to someone who wasnt afraid to make a move.
And yes, outside campus should be better.
Dude, that's so depressing. Story of my life really.:(
The ancient Republic
14-12-2005, 12:58
Sigh. Why are all the interesting girls always either out of my league or gay?

or both... :(
Grave_n_idle
14-12-2005, 15:33
I'd like to think that it's my winning smile that wins over the ladies, but I think it has more to do with my tatas. Either way, I'm irresistible.:D
Helped her with her essay today in the library. She was very, very grateful. She said , "Omg, I owe you".
"Owe me sexual favours?"
"Yes".
The thing of it is, though, that I can't get her to make a move. How does one get a chick to kiss her?
I think it might have something to do with the fact that we're always at the school when we're together. Maybe I'll ask her to go on a coffee run with me tomorrow...

Well, I'd say getting outside of school is a definite plus... especially since each of you may have reservations about how 'gay' the other really is, and how comfortable the other would feel about the risk of getting 'seen' by classmates.

The ideal situation, therefore, is one where there are no other persons present... or if that is entirely impossible, at least no one either of you are likely to have to be around. (Parks, etc... are therefore not bad locations).

I'd say try to keep it fairly neutral at first (so, don't invite her to your room, maybe... unless you really are quite sure she wants to share lipstick).

How do you get a girl to kiss you? Much the same as getting boys to kiss you, one imagines, but with the bonus that girls aren't as dense as boys.

(By which I mean, we Y-chromos are OBLIVIOUS to subtlety).

There are several approaches, most of which will probably put butterflies in the tummy.... maybe in both tummies, which is a 'score'. :)

1) Just kiss her. She could be as unsure as you, and just praying you'll make the move. This option should be used if you are pretty sure she's 'into you'.

2) Ask her/tell her. When you meet her next, just tell her you've been thinking about what it would be like to kiss her. This gives her a little more wriggle-room than just smashing her up against the wall, if she still feels uncomfortable. :)

3) Any of several approaches that involve eye-contact, and where you put it. Looking thoughtful might make her ask you what you are so deep in thought about (ball in HER court)... then you can answer "What it would be like to kiss you", or something along those lines. Another eye-contact approach is to focus on her lips. It is amazing how much subconscious communication we register, without even noticing.

4) The subtle art of seduction. Touch her. I'm not saying go for the throat... but, when you talk to her, touch her skin.... like - touching her arm when you talk to her, for example. Or a casually placed hand on the leg when she makes you laugh. There is a sudden breaking-point, where a simple touch becomes a powderkeg. (As I'm sure you know). This path allows for subtlety... if you are not getting the right responses, you can back off, or try different moves. This might, however, be the path that takes longest.

(Then again, if she's really interested, the first time she's actually close enough to feel your breath, she might liplock you....)
Avynne
14-12-2005, 21:19
Yay, Oxwana! Congratulations!

I agree with everyone else - just kiss her! You've waited this long, you might as well just take your prize yourself. Hehe. Best of luck! And I hope it's quite worth it, after all you went through.
The Outlaw States
14-12-2005, 21:44
...(refer to last post by Grave_n_idle)...

I think Grave_n_idle put it perfectly!
Ma-tek
15-12-2005, 00:09
Three questions one should ask themselves before initiating a kiss.

When leaning slightly towards the person, do they...
1. tilt their head slightly to one side, thus preparing to avoid nose collision?
2. lean closer in response or lean back?

and three... did I floss?
Oxwana
15-12-2005, 05:10
wow
Best day ever!
Went to school, French 1st period as per usual... Couldn't concentrate for obvious reasons. Gimped down to the DC department to retrieve my math texts, got stuck in the hall during announcements, and was gimping back up the stairs to my locker...
I met her in the stairwell. I had promised to go to another school to pick up a friend and her girlfriend with Risa, and I totally flaked out. I can't believe that I almost missed the opportunity to spend almost an hour alone in Risa's car with her!
If anyone ever needed any proof that god loves gays too, though, my recent luck should be more than enough, eh?
She flirted with me as she always has; joking around, making me think she likes me, but impossible for me to know for sure. We picked up Devon and Joan, and went back to my school. We had lunch as a big group, and someone joked that I wanted to bang Risa, and I didn’t bother to deny it; I thought she knew. But she was all shocked. Like, did a triple take of me, was like, "Really?!?!" and seemed really surprised. Is she really that dense???
Like, I tutor her now, I know that she has a wee bit o trouble with the English language and all, but she showed decent insights into her novels... But I honestly think that she thought I was just messing around; wasn't serious, whatever.
She moved closer to me, and proceeded to spend the rest of lunch feeling me up, basically. She was still joking around, but it was way more serious then before...
After school, I was walking the three minutes to work (no small feat on my ankle) through the parking lot. Some mother fucker was honking at me when I was concentrating on gimping over to work to study! I'd just been cut off by a veteran (and you can't take anger out on them), so I was swearing over my shoulder and making lewd gestures...
"Can I give you a ride?" It was definitely Risa.
I got in and she told me how she'd run to her locker after class to look for me, then asked around and found out that I had already left (I know, eh? How sweet)... But she had wanted to ask me to hang out after class. She just happened to see me and drove me the 50 metres to work, and I was like, can you come in for coffee? She said that she could only stay for ten minutes. She ended up staying for four hours.
I was helping her with her essay again, but she kept, uh, distracting me.
I told her repeatedly that it was in her best interest to let me concentrate when I was editing her essay, but... She’s a self-admitted tease. And she teased me the whole night. When I went into the washroom, she followed me into the hallway. She got close so I could barely breathe, and almost kissed me.
She brought her mouth up to within a cm of mine, and... So didn't kiss me. She really is horrible.
Like, four hours of the girl whispering things in my ear, touching me... My god.
wow.
wow.
I got home tonight and she asked me over for a sleepover. A sleepover! That's code for lesbian sex. Do you guys have any idea how painful it is that I had to say no??? My mum would never approve. But man alive, how I want to...
She's going away for the Christmas vacations, too. Two weeks without her. And she will get laid back home, guaranteed. I don't want anyone else to touch her.:(
Whatever will I do?
The Outlaw States
15-12-2005, 09:16
When I went into the washroom, she followed me into the hallway. She got close so I could barely breathe, and almost kissed me.
She brought her mouth up to within a cm of mine, and... So didn't kiss me. She really is horrible.
Like, four hours of the girl whispering things in my ear, touching me... My god.
wow.
wow.

Oxwana, my god, that was when you should have kissed her!!!!

I bet she was trying to get as close to you without actually kissing you as she could so that you knew she wanted to kiss you, but it was your choice if you wanted the kiss to happen!! That way if it wasn't what you wanted then there'd be no awkwardness after if she had kissed u. It would then just be something you could both laugh about after.

I say again, you should have kissed her then.

I got home tonight and she asked me over for a sleepover. A sleepover! That's code for lesbian sex. Do you guys have any idea how painful it is that I had to say no??? My mum would never approve. But man alive, how I want to...

Sod ur mum, u should just go anyway. Or persuade ur mum to let her stay @ urs. She doesnt need to know anything about you two anyway!
Rotovia-
15-12-2005, 09:28
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: "Get a blog!"
Jester III
15-12-2005, 11:32
Oxwana, my god, that was when you should have kissed her!!!! ...
Yup, you nailed it right on the head. Classical "you kissed me" "but you started it" situation.

I don't want anyone else to touch her.
Says Miss "I dont want a relationship, i just want sex". Jealous? ;)
Oxwana
16-12-2005, 05:44
Oxwana, my god, that was when you should have kissed her!!!!

I bet she was trying to get as close to you without actually kissing you as she could so that you knew she wanted to kiss you, but it was your choice if you wanted the kiss to happen!! That way if it wasn't what you wanted then there'd be no awkwardness after if she had kissed u. It would then just be something you could both laugh about after.

I say again, you should have kissed her then.She knows that I want her, she's not at all shy, and trust me, she knows exactly what she's doing. She had me up against a wall, and her lips were hovering over mine. When I went for it, she pulled back, grinning. Then she moved in again, then away quickly. And she giggled! She mocked my pain!:p
She's a total tease. I'm still trying to figure out whether I'd like her more or less if she weren't...


Sod ur mum, u should just go anyway. Or persuade ur mum to let her stay @ urs. She doesnt need to know anything about you two anyway!My mum already knows, I'm almost sure. She's a smart lady. Yesterday night when I got home, my mum was like, "That girl, Lisa? She was cute". I'd been at a table with three people when my mum saw us at work, and she didn't mention any of the others.
I didn't even bother to ask permission last night because I was so sure my mother would say no. Now, I really regret it. If there is a next time, I will go. I'll ask my mum first, but if the answer is no, I'll go anyway.
Oxwana
16-12-2005, 05:47
Says Miss "I dont want a relationship, i just want sex". Jealous? ;)I just want her. I really don't know anything beyond that.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
16-12-2005, 05:47
I got home tonight and she asked me over for a sleepover. A sleepover! That's code for lesbian sex.
And thus, every lonely man's secret suspicion has just been confirmed.
Economic Associates
16-12-2005, 06:20
And thus, every lonely man's secret suspicion has just been confirmed.

rofl
Oxwana
16-12-2005, 06:20
So today wasn't so great...
I worked in the library second period again, and she had said that she would join me, but she didn't show. It was so hard, but I managed to stop looking up at the door like a lost puppy every time someone came in. Like, five minutes before the end of the period, I heard, "Hey beautiful". It was her, of course, and she had slept in. We walked to the GSA meeting at lunch together soon after, but once there we kind of got seperated. She ended up spending half an hour talking to some random chick from her psychology class, and I was insanely jealous. I hid it by ignoring her (kindergarden-style, hells yes). Even at the end of lunch, when she was going and hugged us all, I was pretty cold.
I was sad and depressed all afternoon... It was so very pathetic.
I basically decided to cut her off and go back to the dark side, I was so disgusted with chicks (and myself). As I was leaving the school, I actually considered ignoring her when I heard her call my name, but I was all civil and charming when she joked about "picking [me] up again".
I gimped to work, still feeling sorry for myself, and suffered through a lonely and boring four hours. Then Risa came in to see me. I saw her across the store and we weren't busy, so I went over to say hi. She said that she had something important to talk to me about, and it was private. I moved away from my coworkers a little and asked her what it was. "It's very private", she said, as she led me into the empty hallway.
"You know how I hate the winter, right?" Yeah...
"You know how I hate the snow, right?" Yeah...
"I walked through the snow from my house to see you, because there's something I really need to do."
She proceeded to push me up against the wall and kiss me. I was speechless, and blushing. The only coherent sentence that I could manage to get out was, "Do it again". And she did.
Admittedly, it wasn't one of the best kisses ever. It was mostly just exciting that she was finally doing it. What I find most significant, though, is that it was decent (and then some)... And I was wearing my ugly polyester uniform, my visor, and my drive-thru headset.
If she'd have me like that, then it must be love, no?
She left right after. She didn't even get a coffee. She actually went on a twenty minute stroll through a snow-storm to kiss me.
The rest of my night, needless to say, passed more quickly then the first half.

I'm seeing her again tomorrow second period, but then she's leaving town for three weeks!:(
She's driving me crazy. I honestly can't imagine what it'll be like. I'm going to miss her so much.

Like I said, today wasn't so great... untill it turned into the best day ever.
Oxwana
16-12-2005, 06:22
And thus, every lonely man's secret suspicion has just been confirmed.When a lesbian who has spent a large part of the day feeling you up invites you to sleep over, yes, it does mean lesbian sex.
Megaloria
16-12-2005, 08:01
Unfortunately, I lost the capacity to enjoy this sort of thing a few years ago. Oh well, good on ya, Oxwana.
The Outlaw States
16-12-2005, 09:34
She proceeded to push me up against the wall and kiss me. I was speechless, and blushing. The only coherent sentence that I could manage to get out was, "Do it again". And she did.

Wow, nice one Oxwana :D:D:D:D

My mum already knows, I'm almost sure. She's a smart lady. Yesterday night when I got home, my mum was like, "That girl, Lisa? She was cute". I'd been at a table with three people when my mum saw us at work, and she didn't mention any of the others.

Dont u mean Risa ;)

And its you life to do with as you wish, not your mums. As long as your happy and enjoying yourself, you go for it :)
Svalbardania
16-12-2005, 12:02
Hip Hip-- HOORAY
Hip Hip-- HOORAY
Hip Hip---- HOOOOOORRAAAAYYY!:D
Dark Wolfen
16-12-2005, 12:58
Hip Hip-- HOORAY
Hip Hip-- HOORAY
Hip Hip---- HOOOOOORRAAAAYYY!:D
I second that and i add a:
YAYA!!!!!! it finally happend! GO OXWANA!!!!:D :D :D....HOORAH!
Grave_n_idle
16-12-2005, 20:46
So today wasn't so great...
I worked in the library second period again, and she had said that she would join me, but she didn't show. It was so hard, but I managed to stop looking up at the door like a lost puppy every time someone came in. Like, five minutes before the end of the period, I heard, "Hey beautiful". It was her, of course, and she had slept in. We walked to the GSA meeting at lunch together soon after, but once there we kind of got seperated. She ended up spending half an hour talking to some random chick from her psychology class, and I was insanely jealous. I hid it by ignoring her (kindergarden-style, hells yes). Even at the end of lunch, when she was going and hugged us all, I was pretty cold.
I was sad and depressed all afternoon... It was so very pathetic.
I basically decided to cut her off and go back to the dark side, I was so disgusted with chicks (and myself). As I was leaving the school, I actually considered ignoring her when I heard her call my name, but I was all civil and charming when she joked about "picking [me] up again".
I gimped to work, still feeling sorry for myself, and suffered through a lonely and boring four hours. Then Risa came in to see me. I saw her across the store and we weren't busy, so I went over to say hi. She said that she had something important to talk to me about, and it was private. I moved away from my coworkers a little and asked her what it was. "It's very private", she said, as she led me into the empty hallway.
"You know how I hate the winter, right?" Yeah...
"You know how I hate the snow, right?" Yeah...
"I walked through the snow from my house to see you, because there's something I really need to do."
She proceeded to push me up against the wall and kiss me. I was speechless, and blushing. The only coherent sentence that I could manage to get out was, "Do it again". And she did.
Admittedly, it wasn't one of the best kisses ever. It was mostly just exciting that she was finally doing it. What I find most significant, though, is that it was decent (and then some)... And I was wearing my ugly polyester uniform, my visor, and my drive-thru headset.
If she'd have me like that, then it must be love, no?
She left right after. She didn't even get a coffee. She actually went on a twenty minute stroll through a snow-storm to kiss me.
The rest of my night, needless to say, passed more quickly then the first half.

I'm seeing her again tomorrow second period, but then she's leaving town for three weeks!:(
She's driving me crazy. I honestly can't imagine what it'll be like. I'm going to miss her so much.

Like I said, today wasn't so great... untill it turned into the best day ever.

Ah, man... I'm losing my touch.

I totally predicted the 'kissed up against a wall' scenario... but I predicted the wrong girlfriend. :(

A twenty minute walk through the snow, just for a kiss? Yes, I think you've 'scored' there.

Oh - and, yes - she will be away for 3 weeks... but then - that means she'll be back in three weeks, no?
Eruantalon
16-12-2005, 20:49
If I may be permitted to crash in, has Oxwana turned gay yet?
Megaloria
16-12-2005, 20:50
If I may be permitted to crash in, has Oxwana turned gay yet?
I think she's bisexual.
Hall of Heroes
16-12-2005, 22:12
ROD
Aah, an afternoon alone with
My favorite book, "Broadway
Musicals of the 1940s."
No roommate to bother me.
How could it get any better than this?

NICKY
Oh,hi Rod!

ROD
Hi Nicky.

NICKY
Hey Rod, you'll never
Guess what happened to
Me on the subway this morning.
This guy was smiling at me and talking to me

ROD
That's very interesting.

NICKY
He was being real friendly,
And I think he was coming on to me.
I think he might've thought I was gay!

ROD
Ahem, so, uh, why are you telling me this?
Why should I care?
I don't care.
What did you have for lunch today?

NICKY
Oh, you don't have to get
All defensive about it, Rod...

ROD
I'm NOT getting defensive!
What do I care about some gay guy you met, okay?
I'm trying to read.

NICKY
Oh, I didn't mean anything by it, Rod.
I just think it's something we should be able to talk about.

ROD
I don't want to talk about it,
Nicky! This conversation is over!!!

NICKY
Yeah, but...

ROD
OVER!!!

NICKY
Well, okay, but just so you know —
IF YOU WERE GAY
THAT'D BE OKAY.
I MEAN 'CAUSE, HEY,
I'D LIKE YOU ANYWAY.
BECAUSE YOU SEE,
IF IT WERE ME,
I WOULD FEEL FREE
TO SAY THAT I WAS GAY
(BUT I'M NOT GAY.)

ROD
Nicky, please!
I am trying to read....
What?!

NICKY
IF YOU WERE QUEER

ROD
Ah, Nicky!

NICKY
I'D STILL BE HERE,

ROD
Nicky, I'm trying to read this book.

NICKY
YEAR AFTER YEAR

ROD
Nicky!

NICKY
BECAUSE YOU'RE DEAR
TO ME,

ROD
Argh!

NICKY
AND I KNOW THAT YOU

ROD
What?

NICKY
WOULD ACCEPT ME TOO,

ROD
I would?

NICKY
IF I TOLD YOU TODAY,
"HEY! GUESS WHAT,
I'M GAY!"
(BUT I'M NOT GAY.)
I'M HAPPY
JUST BEING WITH YOU.

ROD
High Button Shoes, Pal Joey...

NICKY
SO WHAT SHOULD IT
MATTER TO ME
WHAT YOU DO IN BED
WITH GUYS?

ROD
Nicky, that's GROSS!

NICKY
No it's not!
IF YOU WERE GAY
I'D SHOUT HOORAY!

ROD
I am not listening!

NICKY
AND HERE I'D STAY,

ROD
La la la la la!

NICKY
BUT I WOULDN'T GET
IN YOUR WAY.

ROD
Aaaah!

NICKY
YOU CAN COUNT ON ME
TO ALWAYS BE
BESIDE YOU EVERY DAY,
TO TELL YOU IT'S OKAY,
YOU WERE JUST BORN
THAT WAY,
AND, AS THEY SAY,
IT'S IN YOUR DNA,
YOU'RE GAY!

ROD
BUT I'M NOT GAY!

NICKY
If you were gay.

ROD
Argh!
Microscopian
16-12-2005, 23:19
You go girl. When is she leaving? If you've got even a few days... :fluffle:
Best of luck!
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 06:15
Wow, nice one Oxwana :D:D:D:DI certainly thought so.


Dont u mean Risa ;)Neither Risa nor Lisa is her real name. What my mum thought her name was rhymed with Risa's real name in an amusing way. It's actually unfortunate that I can't let y'all in on the joke.
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 06:18
Ah, man... I'm losing my touch.

I totally predicted the 'kissed up against a wall' scenario... but I predicted the wrong girlfriend. :(Hey, your prediction could still come true... After all, I have just been proved irresistable, no?

A twenty minute walk through the snow, just for a kiss? Yes, I think you've 'scored' there.I have, and I'm proud.

Oh - and, yes - she will be away for 3 weeks... but then - that means she'll be back in three weeks, no?But in the meantime, she'll be out banging other chicks in the Maritimes...:(
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 06:25
I think she's bisexual.I think she likes beautiful people.
Economic Associates
17-12-2005, 06:30
I think she likes beautiful people.

"Fat Chicks need loving too" Quagmire.
Maineiacs
17-12-2005, 06:30
So today wasn't so great...
I worked in the library second period again, and she had said that she would join me, but she didn't show. It was so hard, but I managed to stop looking up at the door like a lost puppy every time someone came in. Like, five minutes before the end of the period, I heard, "Hey beautiful". It was her, of course, and she had slept in. We walked to the GSA meeting at lunch together soon after, but once there we kind of got seperated. She ended up spending half an hour talking to some random chick from her psychology class, and I was insanely jealous. I hid it by ignoring her (kindergarden-style, hells yes). Even at the end of lunch, when she was going and hugged us all, I was pretty cold.
I was sad and depressed all afternoon... It was so very pathetic.
I basically decided to cut her off and go back to the dark side, I was so disgusted with chicks (and myself). As I was leaving the school, I actually considered ignoring her when I heard her call my name, but I was all civil and charming when she joked about "picking [me] up again".
I gimped to work, still feeling sorry for myself, and suffered through a lonely and boring four hours. Then Risa came in to see me. I saw her across the store and we weren't busy, so I went over to say hi. She said that she had something important to talk to me about, and it was private. I moved away from my coworkers a little and asked her what it was. "It's very private", she said, as she led me into the empty hallway.
"You know how I hate the winter, right?" Yeah...
"You know how I hate the snow, right?" Yeah...
"I walked through the snow from my house to see you, because there's something I really need to do."
She proceeded to push me up against the wall and kiss me. I was speechless, and blushing. The only coherent sentence that I could manage to get out was, "Do it again". And she did.
Admittedly, it wasn't one of the best kisses ever. It was mostly just exciting that she was finally doing it. What I find most significant, though, is that it was decent (and then some)... And I was wearing my ugly polyester uniform, my visor, and my drive-thru headset.
If she'd have me like that, then it must be love, no?
She left right after. She didn't even get a coffee. She actually went on a twenty minute stroll through a snow-storm to kiss me.
The rest of my night, needless to say, passed more quickly then the first half.

I'm seeing her again tomorrow second period, but then she's leaving town for three weeks!:(
She's driving me crazy. I honestly can't imagine what it'll be like. I'm going to miss her so much.

Like I said, today wasn't so great... untill it turned into the best day ever.


'bout time. :)
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 06:35
You go girl. When is she leaving? If you've got even a few days... :fluffle:
Best of luck!She's gone. Disparu, as of this afternoon, not to be seen again till January 10th.
On the bright side, she got a job at my workplace, so I guess I'll get to spend time with her when she gets back...
I'm just really not sure if she likes me as much as I like her.
After we all ate lunch together, Risa went to class, and I was talking to a few mutual friends. I was like, yeah, it's awsome that she kissed me last night, but I still don't like how I know that I like her more than she likes me. Turns out, though, that she talks about me sometimes. She told them in advance that she was going to go to my work to kiss me last night. They thought I was being ridiculous. They were like, "She likes you! A lot! Do we need to spell it out for you?" They then proceeded to attempt to spell "she likes you very much" out loud. Seriously, am I the only teenager I know who can spell???
Anyway, the thing is that they obviously don't know how much I like her. She may like me, but...

wooooooooohooooooooooo im outta this fuckign place..oh man soem ppl were wrong . thay said it would be hard to leave ha i guess it not. haha c yah later london lol...oh my. well im outta here c yah.She won't miss me. It's depressing. Maybe I'll be able to win her over when she gets back...
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 06:39
"Fat Chicks need loving too" Quagmire.When did I say, "beautiful-on-the-outside people"?
Economic Associates
17-12-2005, 06:42
When did I say, "beautiful-on-the-outside people"?

I think I should have included the :rolleyes: smile to show the humor aspect of said post.
Kirotar
17-12-2005, 11:30
It's not my style to usually read for 4 hours but this once I did.

Oxwana,

Please keep in mind that you're already set on a single course so a change of mind will absolutely screw everything over.

This is my perspective of the matter.

Your (former?) coworker is a lesbian and she was attracted and possibly still is attracted to you. She was comfortable with flirting with you, however, because she was very much under the impression that you were straight and reasoned that she could flirt with you out of her own interest in you without any harm coming out of it or it going anywhere. She probably doesn't like to "play games" either; it's not in her nature. Then, you insinuated none-too-subtly that you're interested in her.

(I realize I am transitioning to present tense here.)

She freaks out and convinces herself she's misreading it and you're simply indicating you like her as a friend. She does this out of insecurity because although she has been in relationships with lesbians before, you've appeared to be straight and are making lesbian come-ons that don't completely dispell doubt - because you're not that secure either. She realizes that if she decides to hit on you and discover that you were, in fact, not attracted to her in that sense, she will have lost a friend. Try making a real come-on onto a good, straight, female friend of yours (when you're not in a relationship); you won't be such good friends much longer. It's too uncomfortable. She knows this. On account of this, she behaves very vaguely towards you and starts to shift away a bit, out of insecurity. Hints that should be picked up aren't because she is scared to act on their basis. You insinuate more powerfully that you are attracted to her and she freaks out more. She realizes it is possible that you like her but finds it awkward that you have progressed from behaving heterosexually to behaving homosexually. As a result, she draws the conclusion, or, rather, convinces herself, that you are confused. She still doesn't come on to you because the way she sees it, you're not really a lesbian. She draws the conclusion that she could start a relationship, have it go for one or two dates, and then have you become too awkward in the situation and drop the relationship. This would lead to a very strained friendship, and she's scared of losing you. As a result, she begins to behave more negatively towards you and starts to confuse you. You continue to make overtures towards her and she responds vaguely and makes excuses for her behavior. She said that she would tell you if you expressly (in no uncertain terms) asked her because this eases the entire anxiety - you leave no room for her to be able to doubt. However, you continue to insinuate bluntly (leaving little uncertainty, but in her case any uncertainty is sufficient uncertainty) that you are attracted to her because it goes against you to make a move. She likes you and wants you but cannot respond because she is terrified of heartbreak. She realizes that if you are confused (her present perception), the relationship will very likely collapse on account of your insecurity. As a result of this things go awry.

When she sees Risa, she comments that she isn't that good looking because she is jealous. She wants you but is too afraid of a failed relationship, resulting in heartbreak for her. In all honesty, a girl does not say a girl isn't that good looking unless she's either jealous or just a bitch - but she would never have been nice to you if she was a bitch.

In all likelihood, if you sent her a message like this, you would be dating her presently:

"I really like you. I want you, in the sense that I want to be with you and I want to kiss you and hold you against me and not let it end. Is there any chance you and I could go out for a date on Saturday night?"

The first two sentences would make her feel initially awkward (short term effect) on account of just how blunt you'd get but would completely annihilate any and all misconceptions of you just being confused because there is only one way to interpret the message (long term effect) and she still wants you. As a result, she wouldn't respond for a while, and would likely ask for a date a few days later.

As for her not liking to play games, she probably isn't the kind to mess with people's heads or to even like doing that. (Yes, I'm transitioning to past tense.) She was just too insecure to make a direct move so she behaved very indecisively.

Judging by her behavior, while you were being frustrated with her she was being nerve-wracked because of how scared she was to do anything. She wasn't really at any given point between the beginning and the end (next pararaph) being herself.

You also completely killed it by telling her all you wanted to do was get in her pants. She probably became more friendly towards you after that because she decided to just treat you as a friend because it couldn't go any further. (I'll admit that resolved the anxiety, though.)

Earlier on in the thread I would've responded to your desire to hit her being almost as much as you wanted to make love to her that S&M would've satisfied both.

I'll emphasize again that you're already set on a single course so a change of mind will absolutely screw everything over.

Stay with Risa; you're definitely in a relationship (yes, relationship - if you have a crush on her it can't be anything else) and when she made her blog post she wasn't talking about you. Ask her, and she'll tell you.

And if you even entertain the notion of second thoughts: you killed your chances with your (former?) coworker and Risa will not come back to you if you dump her like that.

EDIT: In answer to your original question, you're bisexual and just more selective when it comes to girls.
Harlesburg
17-12-2005, 12:09
So you gay yet?
The Outlaw States
17-12-2005, 15:00
So you gay yet?

for gods sake, read some of the damn thread and you'll find out!!




But in the meantime, she'll be out banging other chicks in the Maritimes...

Oxwana, I too am sure Risa wasnt talking about you in her blog, and I doubt that she'll go and out 'banging other chicks' after what she did just to kiss you, and telling your mutual friends how much she likes you!

Just enjoy Christmas and New Year. The time will fly past, and then she'll be back in your arms and you can spend loads of time with her and get to know her really well ;)
Heavenly Sex
17-12-2005, 15:16
Recently I've become uber attracted to two chicks.
The thing of it is, they both look like hot guys.
I daydream about kissing them and whatever, but I kind of wish that they were guys, because the thought of having sex with either of them isn't very appealing.
So am I a lesbian? I'm still really attracted to guys.
I'm thinking that maybe I'm just so horny that I'm attracted to everyone (going through a self-imposed dry-spell, which is Hell). Or, it could be that I'm so very pissed off at guys that I am willing myself to be a lesbot...:confused:
What do y'all think?
You're at least bisexual :)
Nothing wrong with that. I advise you to try out sex with a girl just once to see how you will like it. You never know if you haven't tried it.
Hall of Heroes
17-12-2005, 17:26
All I got to say is, it's really cool that you're able to do this in high school without much interference/discrimination from either school authorities or peers. Enjoy it, because there are a great many gay youth who can't! (freaking catholic school in Texas which won't sponsor a GSA. :grumble: )
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 21:14
All I got to say is, it's really cool that you're able to do this in high school without much interference/discrimination from either school authorities or peers. Enjoy it, because there are a great many gay youth who can't! (freaking catholic school in Texas which won't sponsor a GSA. :grumble: )I could put you in touch with the young woman who started the GSA at my school five years ago. She's in university now, but she could probably give you some advice.
She started out without even a teacher advisor, sitting in the office for exactly one hour after school every Thursday, waiting for someone else to work up the courage to attend a "meeting". It was over a month before anyone else showed up, but she waited every week. She said that it was important to her that when a young highschool student came out they would not be alone like she was when she came out. She was the GSA at my school. She is proof that one determined individual is enough to start up a GSA. Our school is more accepting because of of what she did.
For some time, our GSA was the only one for our age group in my town (population 350, 000), and it was student run. It was definitly Jo who made the difference. She's a really strong person, but I'm sure that if she could do it, you could too.:)
Good luck. Remember that change is slow to come, and don't get discouraged.
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 21:34
It's not my style to usually read for 4 hours but this once I did.Thanks. And thanks for putting so much obvious effort into giving me advice. There was a lot of stuff to think about there... I really appreciate it.
Welcome to NS General. It's so cool that you used you first post on my thread.:)

Stay with Risa; you're definitely in a relationship (yes, relationship - if you have a crush on her it can't be anything else) and when she made her blog post she wasn't talking about you. Ask her, and she'll tell you.I'll stay with her, if she'll have me. She's my girlfriend, to my mind, but I'm still not entirely sure how she feels. The situation was further confused by the fact that I was too gimpy to go out these past few weeks. She asked me out, and we made tons of tentative dates ("You want to see that movie??? OMG, I do too! Let's go together when I get back from vacation"), but we never actually went out...

And if you even entertain the notion of second thoughts: you killed your chances with your (former?) coworker and Risa will not come back to you if you dump her like that.Risa told a mutual friend of ours that she wasn't sure if she wanted a relationship, and that's why she acted weird around me; because she thought I wanted one. From what I know of her, she's not into relationships (like me), and just likes to mess around (like me). I'm not sure if she thinks that she has any claim on me, or I on her yet. If we're not "officially" dating, then I can't dump her. It's really weird, but I want her to be possesive of me; to get jealous of other girls, and not date anyone else and expect me to do the same. I'm just pretty sure that she doesn't feel like that.

EDIT: In answer to your original question, you're bisexual and just more selective when it comes to girls.That's what I was thinking.
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 21:42
Oxwana, I too am sure Risa wasnt talking about you in her blog, and I doubt that she'll go and out 'banging other chicks' after what she did just to kiss you, and telling your mutual friends how much she likes you!I don't know about that... She has been depressed since she moved here from the Maritimes about a year ago, and hasn't dated. So yeah... She's hard-up, and told me herself about a month agoi how she couldn't wait to go back home and get laid.
As much as I'd like to think that her feelings have changed since...

Just enjoy Christmas and New Year. The time will fly past, and then she'll be back in your arms and you can spend loads of time with her and get to know her really well ;)I'm scheduled for 70 hour weeks at work. The time will not fly past. I'll be miseralble, but I'm already one day closer to seeing her, and that's how I'm going to look at it every day between now and when I see her next.
Grave_n_idle
17-12-2005, 21:58
Hey, your prediction could still come true... After all, I have just been proved irresistable, no?


Indeed... you are now evidently SO irresistable, that the girls will trudge through the snow, just on the offchance of a taste of your sweet lips...


But in the meantime, she'll be out banging other chicks in the Maritimes...:

DO we KNOW this? Or do we just fear it?

And... if you are not planning on being 'faithful', I'm not really sure you can expect her to.

Indeed... has there been ANY discussion of couple-ness? Is the kiss the extent? Has she told you she's off looking for totty?

You never know... now she's smitten, maybe she doesn't WANT any other cuties...?
Grave_n_idle
17-12-2005, 22:07
I don't know about that... She has been depressed since she moved here from the Maritimes about a year ago, and hasn't dated. So yeah... She's hard-up, and told me herself about a month agoi how she couldn't wait to go back home and get laid.
As much as I'd like to think that her feelings have changed since...

I'm scheduled for 70 hour weeks at work. The time will not fly past. I'll be miseralble, but I'm already one day closer to seeing her, and that's how I'm going to look at it every day between now and when I see her next.

Can I just point out that, if a GUY thought you were cute, and told you how long he'd been single, and how desperately he was desiring of sexual contact... you'd have instantly suspected he was making a move on you... wouldn't you?

I'd say ask her... you know, but, you said she's gone already, right?

Tell me you AT LEAST got her number?
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 22:11
Indeed... you are now evidently SO irresistable, that the girls will trudge through the snow, just on the offchance of a taste of your sweet lips...I am a good kisser, but she didn't know that when she went to see me...
But I'm also worried because I didn't kiss well. It was mostly my visor and drive-thru headset, but still. I wish I could have made a better impression.

DO we KNOW this? Or do we just fear it?I suspect it, sadly.

And... if you are not planning on being 'faithful', I'm not really sure you can expect her to.
Indeed... has there been ANY discussion of couple-ness? Is the kiss the extent? Has she told you she's off looking for totty?I wasn't planning on it, but now I don't want anyone else... And no, we haven't discussed "couple-ness", which is why I'm worried. She told me quite a while ago that she was going to date on vacation, and she hasn't said that she won't since.

You never know... now she's smitten, maybe she doesn't WANT any other cuties...?That's the best that I could possibly hope for, but I doubt it.:(
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 22:15
Can I just point out that, if a GUY thought you were cute, and told you how long he'd been single, and how desperately he was desiring of sexual contact... you'd have instantly suspected he was making a move on you... wouldn't you?Everyone in the GSA knows it. She has been known, on occasion (frequent occasion), to use the line, "OMG, I need some pussy!" We all know, but she didn't tell me specifically. Not that I recall, anyway.

I'd say ask her... you know, but, you said she's gone already, right?
Tell me you AT LEAST got her number?Oops.
Grave_n_idle
17-12-2005, 22:37
I am a good kisser, but she didn't know that when she went to see me...
But I'm also worried because I didn't kiss well. It was mostly my visor and drive-thru headset, but still. I wish I could have made a better impression.

I suspect it, sadly.

I wasn't planning on it, but now I don't want anyone else... And no, we haven't discussed "couple-ness", which is why I'm worried. She told me quite a while ago that she was going to date on vacation, and she hasn't said that she won't since.

That's the best that I could possibly hope for, but I doubt it.:(

Okay... let's be objective about this.

One of two things is going to happen.

1) Your ladylove is going to be as footloose and fancyfree as you were claiming to be, just a few days ago. There has been no discussion of relationships... so, it would be hard to judge her adversely on the strength of it.

The question HERE is... will it make you feel differently about her? Will you still want her to be kissing you, when she gets back?

2) Your ladylove may have discovered something she didn't know before. Apparently, SOME people think they don't want relationships, and then, when the right set of lovely lips press against their own, they discover a different side of themselves...

Perhaps your friend is going to pining for her return, rather than cruising for ass?

The fact that she walked through snow for pre-vacation smoochies has to be counted as boding for the good, I think.

Regarding you worry about kissing... I think you are borrowing trouble. One has to assume she noticed you were wearing a visor and headset... and even so, she kissed you. It seems likely that the kiss itself was the important factor... I assume she had to key herself up somewhat to even break out and do it... it seems unlikely she was rating your 'quality'.

What she probably DID notice, though... is that you obviously got something out of it... so much so that you asked for a second-helping. The fact that she was happy to provide a follow-up is also probably a good indicator.

Of course, at SOME time in your future, you need to kiss the poor little thing properly... at which point, I guess, she will be hopelessly lost. :)
ICanDoThat
17-12-2005, 22:41
Unfortunately, we will need pictures and possibly video to make a real response to this thread.


rofl ... i think that's an awesome idea :D
Grave_n_idle
17-12-2005, 22:47
Everyone in the GSA knows it. She has been known, on occasion (frequent occasion), to use the line, "OMG, I need some pussy!" We all know, but she didn't tell me specifically. Not that I recall, anyway.

Oops.

Do you know any of her friends? Does she have a cell phone? Can you get her cell number off anyone?

It might seem like a difficult or uncomfortable thing to do.... to chase her number... but then, one only has to conjour up the mental image of our girl trying to decide whether to go out on the town, or continue this sexy conversation she's having with (the irresistable) Oxwana....
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 23:16
1) Your ladylove is going to be as footloose and fancyfree as you were claiming to be, just a few days ago. There has been no discussion of relationships... so, it would be hard to judge her adversely on the strength of it.

The question HERE is... will it make you feel differently about her? Will you still want her to be kissing you, when she gets back?I'm not such an idiot as to lose respect for someone for having sex, if that's what you're asking. It won't change my feelings about her at all if she fucks around on vacation. It'll just break my heart, is all. It will also be proof that she doesn't like me as much as I like her. We have very similar (liberal) attitudes towards sex, and this is the first time in my life where I have stopped being attracted to other people all together. She's the only one I want, and I just wish she felt the same.

Regarding you worry about kissing... I think you are borrowing trouble. One has to assume she noticed you were wearing a visor and headset... and even so, she kissed you. It seems likely that the kiss itself was the important factor... I assume she had to key herself up somewhat to even break out and do it... it seems unlikely she was rating your 'quality'.

What she probably DID notice, though... is that you obviously got something out of it... so much so that you asked for a second-helping. The fact that she was happy to provide a follow-up is also probably a good indicator.

Of course, at SOME time in your future, you need to kiss the poor little thing properly... at which point, I guess, she will be hopelessly lost. :)I hope you're right.
Oxwana
17-12-2005, 23:21
Do you know any of her friends? Does she have a cell phone? Can you get her cell number off anyone?

It might seem like a difficult or uncomfortable thing to do.... to chase her number... but then, one only has to conjour up the mental image of our girl trying to decide whether to go out on the town, or continue this sexy conversation she's having with (the irresistable) Oxwana....I've never even spoken to her on the phone before. I have her msn, and I see her every day, so there was never really a need. Problem is, that kind of kept the relationship on a "see you when I see you" type basis.
She does have a cell, but I'm really not comfortable calling her up out of nowhere when she might well be sitting down to a family dinner...
Beyond that, she's going back home to see all the friends she hasn't seen in a year. I don't want to stop her from going out or enjoying herself. I just want her to be missing me, at least a little.
Would it be bad if I just hope to see her on MSN and wait till she gets back?
Microscopian
18-12-2005, 04:06
Oxwana, your being a pesamist. There is nothing wrong with wanting to see her, chat with her, or call her. Work out the time zones and call her when you know it's safe. But first get her cell number. If your still to scared, do what I do and let it ring once. If she calls back, all the better for you. If not, keep trying. Honestly, theres nothing wrong with letting her know your thinking about her. Trust me, haveing a posative attitude helps loads. Thinking down will only make things seem worse then they are.
Cuneo Island
18-12-2005, 04:07
Oxwan- Check your friggin telegrams babe.
Kirotar
18-12-2005, 04:07
Risa told a mutual friend of ours that she wasn't sure if she wanted a relationship, and that's why she acted weird around me; because she thought I wanted one. From what I know of her, she's not into relationships (like me), and just likes to mess around (like me). I'm not sure if she thinks that she has any claim on me, or I on her yet. If we're not "officially" dating, then I can't dump her. It's really weird, but I want her to be possesive of me; to get jealous of other girls, and not date anyone else and expect me to do the same. I'm just pretty sure that she doesn't feel like that.
You might not be into relationships but if you have a crush on her, she goes out of her way to kiss you, and wants to make out with you, you cannot call your predicament any less than a relationship. You should just have fun with each other (it doesn't have to be in the emphasized sense) and the rest will just naturally come along.

I'll stay with her, if she'll have me. She's my girlfriend, to my mind, but I'm still not entirely sure how she feels. The situation was further confused by the fact that I was too gimpy to go out these past few weeks. She asked me out, and we made tons of tentative dates ("You want to see that movie??? OMG, I do too! Let's go together when I get back from vacation"), but we never actually went out...
Tentative dates are a good sign in this case, not a bad sign. Although neither of you two managed to step up to it, it's clear enough that both of you want to go out on dates. You two are pretty much in a relationship at this point. Maybe you're not quite there, but you two are both asking it to be there.

I don't know about that... She has been depressed since she moved here from the Maritimes about a year ago, and hasn't dated. So yeah... She's hard-up, and told me herself about a month agoi how she couldn't wait to go back home and get laid.
As much as I'd like to think that her feelings have changed since...
A month ago you hadn't started the relationship. I've known people who do one-night stands and the most outrageous things when they're single, but when they're in a relationship, they dont mess around like that at all. Risa won't suddenly abandon you after making moves on you where she's not even hesitant, and your blog post has told her in no uncertain terms that you have a crush on her.

It won't change my feelings about her at all if she fucks around on vacation. It'll just break my heart, is all. It will also be proof that she doesn't like me as much as I like her. We have very similar (liberal) attitudes towards sex, and this is the first time in my life where I have stopped being attracted to other people all together. She's the only one I want, and I just wish she felt the same.
Tell her, except instead of saying you "wish" she felt the same, say you "would like it if" she felt the same because the former is a way to break up a relationship while the latter is asking for the relationship to continue along those lines. Also, behavior like this definitely makes it a relationship. One of the worst things to happen in a relationship is when a person wants it to go in a certain direction but never makes any indication of it. That just doesn't work because people aren't telepathic and are rarely that empathetic. If you want something to happen in a relationship, give fate a little nudge in the right direction.

Of course, people don't go in carefree relationships with people by making strong come-ons and going out of their way for the other person while aware that the other person has a crush on them.

I just want her to be missing me, at least a little.
It would be stranger if she didn't. She just started a relationship that's looking really hopeful so odds are she's hoping alright.

Would it be bad if I just hope to see her on MSN and wait till she gets back?
Not really. It should be fine. If it hits you hard enough though, just call her.
C Sativa
18-12-2005, 04:09
Oxwana, I've spent the past couple days reading through this thread and I just want to say that I think it's incredible how far you've come in such a short time. You went from being totally unsure of your sexuality to being able to admit you had feelings for another girl, to admitting those feelings outloud to not just one, but two girls, to getting a little bit of much wanted action from the object of your affection. I think it's amazing how well you've dealt with everything, and that no matter where this one relationship goes, just keep in mind how wonderfully you've progressed as a person. You're still young, and no matter what happens with Risa, she will always be an important person in helping you figure out part of yourself, and that's pretty awesome if you ask me.
Anybodybutbushia
18-12-2005, 04:17
I am going to read through the threads and forget that you said the women were manly looking - it is just better that way. Sounds like it worked out though - nice!
Oxwana
18-12-2005, 05:50
Oxwana, your being a pesamist. There is nothing wrong with wanting to see her, chat with her, or call her. Work out the time zones and call her when you know it's safe. But first get her cell number. If your still to scared, do what I do and let it ring once. If she calls back, all the better for you. If not, keep trying. Honestly, theres nothing wrong with letting her know your thinking about her. Trust me, haveing a posative attitude helps loads. Thinking down will only make things seem worse then they are.Thanks for talking me down. That's pretty practical advice... I'll try not to call her, but if I need to, I'll definitly do the call and only let it ring once or twice thing. Then she'll have my number, and the ball will be in her court.
Oxwana
18-12-2005, 06:07
You might not be into relationships but if you have a crush on her, she goes out of her way to kiss you, and wants to make out with you, you cannot call your predicament any less than a relationship. You should just have fun with each other (it doesn't have to be in the emphasized sense) and the rest will just naturally come along.I hope so. She knows that I didn't want a relationship as of about a week ago. Maybe she still thinks the same way? Even if she like sme, she could think that I'm not serious, but I don't want to profess my undying love if she just wants to fuck around, you know?

Tentative dates are a good sign in this case, not a bad sign. Although neither of you to managed to step up to it, it's clear enough that both of you want to go out on dates. You two are pretty much in a relationship at this point. Maybe you're not quite there, but you two are both asking it to be there.I'm so insecure right now. I want her to call me her girlfriend. I need her to say the words outloud. I know it's weird, but I just do.

A month ago you hadn't started the relationship. I've known people who do one-night stands and the most outrageous things when they're single, but when they're in a relationship, they dont mess around like that at all. Risa won't suddenly abandon you after making moves on you where she's not even hesitant, and your blog post has told her in no uncertain terms that you have a crush on her.But maybe she only liked me when she was here because so many people were being assholes to her? What if she only likes me compared to other Londoners (that's not saying much, trust me)? What if she goes away and forgets me?

Tell her, except instead of saying you "wish" she felt the same, say you "would like it if" she felt the same because the former is a way to break up a relationship while the latter is asking for the relationship to continue along those lines. Also, behavior like this definitely makes it a relationship. One of the worst things to happen in a relationship is when a person wants it to go in a certain direction but never makes any indication of it. That just doesn't work because people aren't telepathic and are rarely that empathetic. If you want something to happen in a relationship, give fate a little nudge in the right direction.With my ex, I was really upfront about my feelings, and it totally blew up, because he felt the pressure to feel about me as strongly as I felt about him. I'm not too worried about Risa, because she's not a spineless pussy like he is, but still...
I'm scared of saying too much.

It would be stranger if she didn't. She just started a relationship that's looking really hopeful so odds are she's hoping alright.I'm not sure how strongly she feels about me. She's so wonderful... She's beautiful, and funny, and she laughs a lot and has the most beautiful smile... And she has the cutest accent and an adorabble stutter when she talks too fast...
I guess I just find it hard to believe that she wants me. She's so beautiful and bright... Couldn't she have anyone she wanted (excluding Londoners, who are stupid, and don't see how special she is)? Maybe when she's back home, among nice non-judgemental people, the girls will be all over her and she'll have her pick.

Not really. It should be fine. If it hits you hard enough though, just call her.I will.
Oxwana
18-12-2005, 06:11
Oxwana, I've spent the past couple days reading through this thread and I just want to say that I think it's incredible how far you've come in such a short time. You went from being totally unsure of your sexuality to being able to admit you had feelings for another girl, to admitting those feelings outloud to not just one, but two girls, to getting a little bit of much wanted action from the object of your affection. I think it's amazing how well you've dealt with everything, and that no matter where this one relationship goes, just keep in mind how wonderfully you've progressed as a person. You're still young, and no matter what happens with Risa, she will always be an important person in helping you figure out part of yourself, and that's pretty awesome if you ask me.Awww.
Thanks, that's so sweet of you to say!
Liking girls was like a new occurance in my sexual life, but I was never unaccepting of myself, just a wee bit confused for a while...
I hope that things work out with Risa too. Unfortunatly, I'm not sure how far it can go...
Did I tell y'all that she's moving back home this summer for good?:(
Nureonia
18-12-2005, 06:26
Awww.
Thanks, that's so sweet of you to say!
Liking girls was like a new occurance in my sexual life, but I was never unaccepting of myself, just a wee bit confused for a while...
I hope that things work out with Risa too. Unfortunatly, I'm not sure how far it can go...
Did I tell y'all that she's moving back home this summer for good?:(

You should definitely keep in contact with her.

and be online more. maybe she uses the internet too. get that information from her.
Avertide
18-12-2005, 06:29
Hmm, well that's mainly good.

Good luck with the continuation.
Avynne
18-12-2005, 06:31
Oh man... I'm really sorry that Risa is moving. You should still pursue her anyway though. You still have few more months with her. Any time with her would be better than none, right?
Kirotar
18-12-2005, 07:27
How did "The Irresistable Oxwana" become "Oxwana the Timid"? You'll be fine. Defaulting to egoism isn't so bad in this case. (That means try thinking the following thought: "[Risa's real name] is mine. She can't resist me.")

I hope so. She knows that I didn't want a relationship as of about a week ago. Maybe she still thinks the same way? Even if she like sme, she could think that I'm not serious, but I don't want to profess my undying love if she just wants to fuck around, you know?
You explained to her in the bluntest way imaginable that you have a crush on her. There is no way for her to think that it doesn't mean you're serious.

I'm so insecure right now. I want her to call me her girlfriend. I need her to say the words outloud. I know it's weird, but I just do.
It's not weird and she will.

But maybe she only liked me when she was here because so many people were being assholes to her? What if she only likes me compared to other Londoners (that's not saying much, trust me)? What if she goes away and forgets me?
No. That answers all three. If you need reinforcement, being there for her when people are being assholes to her really makes you stand out positively, and people don't forget people who stand out. Also, having been around you long enough, she knows that there's more to you than being better than other Londoners.

With my ex, I was really upfront about my feelings, and it totally blew up, because he felt the pressure to feel about me as strongly as I felt about him. I'm not too worried about Risa, because she's not a spineless pussy like he is, but still...
I'm scared of saying too much.
But still nothing. If she's not a spineless pussy as you put it, she won't chicken out because you're asking her to be a real lover.

I'm not sure how strongly she feels about me. She's so wonderful... She's beautiful, and funny, and she laughs a lot and has the most beautiful smile... And she has the cutest accent and an adorabble stutter when she talks too fast...
I guess I just find it hard to believe that she wants me. She's so beautiful and bright... Couldn't she have anyone she wanted (excluding Londoners, who are stupid, and don't see how special she is)? Maybe when she's back home, among nice non-judgemental people, the girls will be all over her and she'll have her pick.
Yes, you do find it hard to believe she wants you. That's the only reason why you're beating yourself so hard over this. Also, people are judgmental everywhere, not just at London.

I hope that things work out with Risa too. Unfortunatly, I'm not sure how far it can go...
Did I tell y'all that she's moving back home this summer for good?
You get to worry about this four months later, not now. Also, "moving" and "moving on" are not the same.
Manea
18-12-2005, 09:45
Wow Oxwana... absolutely wow... I remember a while ago when I first noticed this thread came into existence and I was like, hmm, sounds interesting, but I was WAY to busy with all the crazyiness of life to spend time posting and reading stuff on nationstates... Now that I've FINALLY spent the time to read this whole thread I can't even begin to tell you how amazed I am at everything that has happened to you throughout the course of these past weeks.

Having read about so many crazy things and taking it upon myself to give advice to lots of people when they need it with relationships I was kind of upset that my studies kept me from responding to this thread a lot sooner than now, because throughout the course of your stories I had random things I would've said that might have been useful but (fortunately for you) most if not all of the useful things I would've said were mentioned by someone else and you acted upon their advice.

All the craziness that happened with your co-worker was an interesting way to start things but I knew a long time ago in the thread that she wouldn't be the one you would end up with due to my perceived view of Risa from all that you've kindly shared with us in the NS general community. I was so happy when I got to the part about you finally getting a kiss from her because I knew that that could only be for the best with the insanity that has been your life lately.

By the way don't sweat the fact that Risa's going home for a few weeks and will also eventually be going back for good in the summer. Knowing what I know about her I'm sure that nothing horrific will happen while she is gone and she will return wanting you even more... to use an old corny cliche "absence makes the heart grow fonder"... I've only found it to be true throughout my life when I left my g/f at home when I went to college, our relationship has only gotten stronger as a result of that separation of sorts.

Heck she may even go home and realize that the people there aren't nearly as good as you are!!! I mean she's already gotten a taste of what you have to offer and I can tell that she definately is going to want a bigger slice of the pie when she comes back! Her calling you her girlfriend is a slower thing that, given the right opportunities will no doubt come to fruition after some time, as you've no doubt learned by now patience is a virtue that pays off in kind! I know it's hard for you to suddenly be parted from Risa after such an amazing first experience but you shouldn't be apprehensive about it in the least and just know that what is meant to be will happen (and I'm pretty sure that involves you and Risa getting together sometimes... hehe) and it is perfectly alright and completely natural to want to call her sometime... my advice is to just do it when you've got some down time at an hour that is reasonable for both of you with the time zones, from what I've discovered in the world of relationships from myself and others I've found that calling people and just talking for a while is the best thing to do to expand a new relationship after something like your snowy rendevous happens and you are suddenly parted.

Sadly, there is a key part of communication that is lost when you don't hear the other person speak. That is the tragic flaw of the internet, we lose the ability to detect subtle things that are obvious when we say them but impossible to detect in the written word.

Well anyways, to sum up all of this I say, keep things going and enjoy the fruit of what life has given you, you are a very special person from what I've been able to gather from you, and I will continue to monitor whatever developments may occur and continue giving you advice now that I've finally read this whole thing! (craziest 3 hours of my life reading this... lol) And I wish you the best with everything!
Maineiacs
18-12-2005, 09:55
I hope so. She knows that I didn't want a relationship as of about a week ago. Maybe she still thinks the same way? Even if she like sme, she could think that I'm not serious, but I don't want to profess my undying love if she just wants to fuck around, you know?

I'm so insecure right now. I want her to call me her girlfriend. I need her to say the words outloud. I know it's weird, but I just do.

But maybe she only liked me when she was here because so many people were being assholes to her? What if she only likes me compared to other Londoners (that's not saying much, trust me)? What if she goes away and forgets me?

With my ex, I was really upfront about my feelings, and it totally blew up, because he felt the pressure to feel about me as strongly as I felt about him. I'm not too worried about Risa, because she's not a spineless pussy like he is, but still...
I'm scared of saying too much.

I'm not sure how strongly she feels about me. She's so wonderful... She's beautiful, and funny, and she laughs a lot and has the most beautiful smile... And she has the cutest accent and an adorabble stutter when she talks too fast...
I guess I just find it hard to believe that she wants me. She's so beautiful and bright... Couldn't she have anyone she wanted (excluding Londoners, who are stupid, and don't see how special she is)? Maybe when she's back home, among nice non-judgemental people, the girls will be all over her and she'll have her pick.

I will.


Congratulations. And don't worry about the separation. That's what inline chatting is for.
The Outlaw States
18-12-2005, 13:18
Oxwana, if your worried about phoning her, then send her a message. That way she can reply when its convenient to her, and you wont be intruding if she's having dinner or spending time with friends. I'm sure things will work out fine for you :)
Smokers_247
18-12-2005, 13:51
I second the motion.
I really am pretty confused here and would appreciate if people made an effort to take this seriously, and stay on topic. I need some advice.
But for now, I have to go to bed, and decide whether I will think about girls or guys when I jack off...:eek:


12 guys :eek: ever thought about making them work for it first. I mean damn you sound like you get around. Actually if you look at your post or even your location under your name you sound like a pretty big whore or a troll. I'm placing my bet on troll. But if this is real then the main reason guys treat you like a door mat is because you allow them too and have apparently accepted that roll in life. Also, I don't know a lot of ladies who talk even remotely like what is written above so that is another reason i think this is a troll, well that and the fact you called it "jack off". Women don't jack off, they have nothing to jack off so maybe you need to think about what you post before you lie and get caught. Real women just don't seem to talk like that but hey maybe it's just me. I would have to say though, WTG on over 900 posts just because the topic had lesbo in it. Caught my attention. :)
Smokers_247
18-12-2005, 13:57
All I got to say is, it's really cool that you're able to do this in high school without much interference/discrimination from either school authorities or peers. Enjoy it, because there are a great many gay youth who can't! (freaking catholic school in Texas which won't sponsor a GSA. :grumble: )


Holy crap!!!! The first good news I've heard about Texas.
Hall of Heroes
18-12-2005, 16:10
Holy crap!!!! The first good news I've heard about Texas.

Ah, right, so the homophobia that leads to three times the suicide rate in gay teens as there is in their straight peers is a good thing. My bad. :rolleyes:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/051017/17sex_4.htm
Research shows that 97 percent of public high school students say they hear antigay remarks regularly, and 80 percent of gay and lesbian students say they suffer severe social isolation. "The data has consistently found that gay and lesbian and bi teens have at least three times the rate of [teen] suicide and suicide attempts," says Ron Schlittler, deputy executive director at the national office of Parents, Families & Friends of Lesbians & Gays
Ravenshrike
18-12-2005, 16:24
Ah, right, so the homophobia that leads to three times the suicide rate in gay teens as there is in their straight peers is a good thing. My bad. :rolleyes:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/051017/17sex_4.htm
Research shows that 97 percent of public high school students say they hear antigay remarks regularly, and 80 percent of gay and lesbian students say they suffer severe social isolation. "The data has consistently found that gay and lesbian and bi teens have at least three times the rate of [teen] suicide and suicide attempts," says Ron Schlittler, deputy executive director at the national office of Parents, Families & Friends of Lesbians & Gays
:headbang: Don't feed the rather obvious and pathetic troll dammit. :headbang:
Grave_n_idle
18-12-2005, 21:40
I'm not such an idiot as to lose respect for someone for having sex, if that's what you're asking. It won't change my feelings about her at all if she fucks around on vacation. It'll just break my heart, is all. It will also be proof that she doesn't like me as much as I like her. We have very similar (liberal) attitudes towards sex, and this is the first time in my life where I have stopped being attracted to other people all together. She's the only one I want, and I just wish she felt the same.

I hope you're right.

I didn't say you'd lose respect for her... I was rather more thinking about whether it would upset you.

If it will, you need to contact her, and let her know how you feel about her, and see what she says.

Is this putting your baggage on her? Well, yes, of course it is.... but at least she'll KNOW you are REALLY interested, and that might make a difference, no?

And, of course, if it makes NO difference... well, that tells you something, too.

You have to remember, you are playing your cards close to your chest. You aren't sharing too much information with her... and that's probably just so that neither of you gets hurt. But... if you want her to make a value judgement, it's only fair that you try to be honest with each other... and I no you haven't been DIS-honest... but you have to admit, there are things about THIS relationship that you COULD have told her, but haven't.
Microscopian
18-12-2005, 21:42
Not to mention, your leg should be all better by the time she gets back...:fluffle:


Sadly, there is a key part of communication that is lost when you don't hear the other person speak. That is the tragic flaw of the internet, we lose the ability to detect subtle things that are obvious when we say them but impossible to detect in the written word.
This is something I have to agree with. Talking online and all is good, but definantly get her to call you, or you call her, because talking in person is always better. You pick up on more, and can say more, not to mention it's harder to not listen to someones voice then it is to ignore words on a screen.
BTW, she trudged throu the snow for a kiss, I think it's ok to get her number.
Grave_n_idle
18-12-2005, 22:20
But maybe she only liked me when she was here because so many people were being assholes to her? What if she only likes me compared to other Londoners (that's not saying much, trust me)? What if she goes away and forgets me?


Hey... wait!

What's wrong with Londoners???
Smokers_247
18-12-2005, 22:28
Ah, right, so the homophobia that leads to three times the suicide rate in gay teens as there is in their straight peers is a good thing. My bad. :rolleyes:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/051017/17sex_4.htm
Research shows that 97 percent of public high school students say they hear antigay remarks regularly, and 80 percent of gay and lesbian students say they suffer severe social isolation. "The data has consistently found that gay and lesbian and bi teens have at least three times the rate of [teen] suicide and suicide attempts," says Ron Schlittler, deputy executive director at the national office of Parents, Families & Friends of Lesbians & Gays

Gotta get rid of them somehow!!! Either they do themselves or we can always use the :sniper: method
Smokers_247
18-12-2005, 22:37
Hey... wait!

What's wrong with Londoners???

How much time to you have to discuss this? Could take a while.
Grave_n_idle
18-12-2005, 22:50
How much time to you have to discuss this? Could take a while.

Judging by the posts we've seen previously.... I'm not too worried.
Megaloria
18-12-2005, 22:55
12 guys :eek: ever thought about making them work for it first. I mean damn you sound like you get around. Actually if you look at your post or even your location under your name you sound like a pretty big whore or a troll. I'm placing my bet on troll. But if this is real then the main reason guys treat you like a door mat is because you allow them too and have apparently accepted that roll in life. Also, I don't know a lot of ladies who talk even remotely like what is written above so that is another reason i think this is a troll, well that and the fact you called it "jack off". Women don't jack off, they have nothing to jack off so maybe you need to think about what you post before you lie and get caught. Real women just don't seem to talk like that but hey maybe it's just me. I would have to say though, WTG on over 900 posts just because the topic had lesbo in it. Caught my attention. :)

The term, actually, is "Jane-ing off".
Hall of Heroes
18-12-2005, 23:28
I've been thinking about this situation, Oxwana. I consider myself bisexual, but that's just sexuality. Personally, I can get sexual satisfaction from either sex, but not emotional. There just isn't the same sort of fireworks with a woman that there is with a man. Maybe I just haven't met the right woman yet, but I know that I'm not alone in this, and that there are others who persist like this their whole life. Maybe that's the way it is with you? Your sexual orientation is bisexual, but your "emotional" orientation so to speak is homosexual?
Smokers_247
19-12-2005, 00:07
Judging by the posts we've seen previously.... I'm not too worried.

What???? You don't like the way I fish? Seems to have caught at least one with my posts.
Puppet Parrots
19-12-2005, 00:25
You've got to be shitting me...

This fucking thread is still fucking going? Make your goddamn mind up already
Kryysakan
19-12-2005, 01:20
What if she only likes me compared to other Londoners (that's not saying much, trust me)?

(excluding Londoners, who are stupid, and don't see how special she is)

Hey, what's your problem with Londoners? Y'git me...
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
19-12-2005, 01:23
This fucking thread is still fucking going? Make your goddamn mind up already
She's made up her mind. Now she just gets publicly giddy and chatters with the dirty old men who congregate here.
Microscopian
19-12-2005, 03:08
You've got to be shitting me...

This fucking thread is still fucking going? Make your goddamn mind up already

And if you don't like it, don't reed it. It's called common sense. And think about someone other then yourself, theres no need to be meen to our poor little Oxwana. She needs our moral support.
GO OX GO!:p
Oxwana
19-12-2005, 06:05
12 guys :eek: ever thought about making them work for it first. I mean damn you sound like you get around.I like sex. I have had sex with various people in various locations. That is the definition of "getting around", I think. Why so many people think it's a bad thing, I don't know.

Actually if you look at your post or even your location under your name you sound like a pretty big whore or a troll. I'm placing my bet on troll.My location name is a joke, and nowhere have I ever mentioned having sex for money. I am not a whore, not that I see anything worng with the world's oldest profession.

But if this is real then the main reason guys treat you like a door mat is because you allow them too and have apparently accepted that roll in life.I trteat all human beings with respect, and expect to be treated the same. I do not equate sexual attention with disrespect, and if youy do, that's your problem.

Also, I don't know a lot of ladies who talk even remotely like what is written above so that is another reason i think this is a troll, well that and the fact you called it "jack off".I don't act like "a lot of ladies" and therfore cannot possibly be female? That's one choice piece of logic, Spock.

Women don't jack off, they have nothing to jack off so maybe you need to think about what you post before you lie and get caught.Oh, I jack off. I do it often, and throughly, and it is good. It's a figure of speech, and I defend my right to employ it.

Real women just don't seem to talk like that but hey maybe it's just me."Real women" do not all act the same. I refuse to conform to society's expectations of me, and if you're treatened by that, it's your problem, not mine.
Real women are mothers, sisters, wives. We are teachers, doctors, and firefighters. We wear pants, skirts or nothing at all. We are as diverse as human beings can be, and we do not all fit your image of "femininity".
Oxwana
19-12-2005, 06:10
Hey... wait!

What's wrong with Londoners???London, Ontario. If you have to ask, then you must never have been here.
Either that, or you're one of them...:eek:
Harlesburg
19-12-2005, 06:11
London, Ontario. If you have to ask, then you must never have been here.
Either that, or you're one of them...:eek:
What about London England?
Oxwana
19-12-2005, 06:16
I've been thinking about this situation, Oxwana. I consider myself bisexual, but that's just sexuality. Personally, I can get sexual satisfaction from either sex, but not emotional. There just isn't the same sort of fireworks with a woman that there is with a man. Maybe I just haven't met the right woman yet, but I know that I'm not alone in this, and that there are others who persist like this their whole life. Maybe that's the way it is with you? Your sexual orientation is bisexual, but your "emotional" orientation so to speak is homosexual?I dunno...
I had a boyfriend. I still love him... I wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. If it were up to me, I'd still be with him. I'd take him back now, even after he's ripped my heart out.
I think it may have more to do with being afraid or unable to get into another relationship... I'm kind of damaged goods. Maybe that has made me more needy...
Oxwana
19-12-2005, 06:18
What about London England?London kicks London, Ontario's ass.
My London is WASP-y, uptight, judgemental, and very small-town (for a city of 350 000). My London is only appealing to the rich, white, straight etc.
Harlesburg
19-12-2005, 06:19
I dunno...
I had a boyfriend. I still love him... I wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. If it were up to me, I'd still be with him. I'd take him back now, even after he's ripped my heart out.
I think it may have more to do with being afraid or unable to get into another relationship... I'm kind of damaged goods. Maybe that has made me more needy...
Oh that ain't fair what hapened?
Oxwana
19-12-2005, 06:21
And if you don't like it, don't reed it. It's called common sense. And think about someone other then yourself, theres no need to be meen to our poor little Oxwana. She needs our moral support.
GO OX GO!:pyay!!!!!!!!!
I've always wanted my own cheerleading squad...
Maybe I can convince Risa to wear one of those wee skirts...
Oxwana
19-12-2005, 06:34
Oh that ain't fair what hapened?Girl meets boy, girl likes boy as a friend, but is hard up, so bangs boy anyway, knowing it will ruin the friendship. Boy says he loves girl, girl comes to believe him, and fall in love with boy... Girl goes on a foreign exchange to Spain and boy cheats on girl with boy's ex/roommate, all the while proclaiming his undying love and begging for forgiveness...
Girl later finds out that boy knew early on that he didn't love girl but was too much of a pussy to break things off... Girl eventually broke things off, thinking that boy would object, and that she was just being paranoid thinking that boy didn't really love her.
Boy didn't object. Boy refuses to speak to girl. Boy thinks girl is weird for still feeling the same way she felt six months ago... Boy refuses to speak to girl...
It was very confusing and traumatic. Boy's ex/roommate/maybe current girlfriend calls girl a stalker for calling boy three times in two months. Boy doesn't defend girl he said he'd always love...
Yeah. It was messy, and painful, and I never got my three fav thongs (accidentally left at his place) or my heart back. They are officially MIA, and I am incomplete without them.
Basically, I'm damaged goods.
I never thought that I'd fall in love, and it was hardly upsetting to me. But now that I have given my heart away, I don't think I can do it again. I'm still in love with him, and always will be.

I still care about Risa, but I hardly feel about her the same way I felt about B.
I wish I'd fallen for her first.
Fascist Dominion
19-12-2005, 07:41
All in all, I think people spend too much time wondering what they think and what others think and not enough time just enjoying the company of others.

There's no magical line seperating one kind of relationship from another. It's a whole spectrum of complex feelings. Just feel what you feel and don't worry about labeling it. Sheesh.

Well said. :headbang:
Fascist Dominion
19-12-2005, 07:48
I like sex. I have had sex with various people in various locations. That is the definition of "getting around", I think. Why so many people think it's a bad thing, I don't know.

My location name is a joke, and nowhere have I ever mentioned having sex for money. I am not a whore, not that I see anything worng with the world's oldest profession.

I trteat all human beings with respect, and expect to be treated the same. I do not equate sexual attention with disrespect, and if youy do, that's your problem.

I don't act like "a lot of ladies" and therfore cannot possibly be female? That's one choice piece of logic, Spock.

Oh, I jack off. I do it often, and throughly, and it is good. It's a figure of speech, and I defend my right to employ it.

"Real women" do not all act the same. I refuse to conform to society's expectations of me, and if you're treatened by that, it's your problem, not mine.
Real women are mothers, sisters, wives. We are teachers, doctors, and firefighters. We wear pants, skirts or nothing at all. We are as diverse as human beings can be, and we do not all fit your image of "femininity".

I love you. :eek: :D :fluffle:
Fascist Dominion
19-12-2005, 07:58
Girl meets boy, girl likes boy as a friend, but is hard up, so bangs boy anyway, knowing it will ruin the friendship. Boy says he loves girl, girl comes to believe him, and fall in love with boy... Girl goes on a foreign exchange to Spain and boy cheats on girl with boy's ex/roommate, all the while proclaiming his undying love and begging for forgiveness...
Girl later finds out that boy knew early on that he didn't love girl but was too much of a pussy to break things off... Girl eventually broke things off, thinking that boy would object, and that she was just being paranoid thinking that boy didn't really love her.
Boy didn't object. Boy refuses to speak to girl. Boy thinks girl is weird for still feeling the same way she felt six months ago... Boy refuses to speak to girl...
It was very confusing and traumatic. Boy's ex/roommate/maybe current girlfriend calls girl a stalker for calling boy three times in two months. Boy doesn't defend girl he said he'd always love...
Yeah. It was messy, and painful, and I never got my three fav thongs (accidentally left at his place) or my heart back. They are officially MIA, and I am incomplete without them.
Basically, I'm damaged goods.
I never thought that I'd fall in love, and it was hardly upsetting to me. But now that I have given my heart away, I don't think I can do it again. I'm still in love with him, and always will be.

I still care about Risa, but I hardly feel about her the same way I felt about B.
I wish I'd fallen for her first.

Don't be absurd. Damaged goods only applies to hobos who fall off the night train because they forgot to close the door...or the other hobos pushed them out....Anywho, you still lack balance, which is why you think you will never love the way you did before. You should be more fluid, metaphorically like water. Filth (not bacterial) often is the best filter for water. Wow, I've been using a lot of water-based metaphors lately. The point is that you shouldn't dwell on the disaster; flow ever forth and be the purer for it.
Smokers_247
19-12-2005, 14:03
Girl meets boy, girl likes boy as a friend, but is hard up, so bangs boy anyway, knowing it will ruin the friendship. Boy says he loves girl, girl comes to believe him, and fall in love with boy... Girl goes on a foreign exchange to Spain and boy cheats on girl with boy's ex/roommate, all the while proclaiming his undying love and begging for forgiveness...
Girl later finds out that boy knew early on that he didn't love girl but was too much of a pussy to break things off... Girl eventually broke things off, thinking that boy would object, and that she was just being paranoid thinking that boy didn't really love her.
Boy didn't object. Boy refuses to speak to girl. Boy thinks girl is weird for still feeling the same way she felt six months ago... Boy refuses to speak to girl...
It was very confusing and traumatic. Boy's ex/roommate/maybe current girlfriend calls girl a stalker for calling boy three times in two months. Boy doesn't defend girl he said he'd always love...
Yeah. It was messy, and painful, and I never got my three fav thongs (accidentally left at his place) or my heart back. They are officially MIA, and I am incomplete without them.
Basically, I'm damaged goods.
I never thought that I'd fall in love, and it was hardly upsetting to me. But now that I have given my heart away, I don't think I can do it again. I'm still in love with him, and always will be.

I still care about Risa, but I hardly feel about her the same way I felt about B.
I wish I'd fallen for her first.

And I guess I was right!!! Boy knows girl will give it up with little to no effort, boy uses girl for what she gives out to so many. Girl gets hurt, boy moves on to new girl. Girl then worries more about a pair of panties then anything else it sounds. Yep I was right, classic whore. By the way, not all whores charge for it. The really sad part is you have no self control or respect and don't care what kind of crap you get from any of these guys and you don't even sound that old. You will be used like that guy used you for the rest of your life as long as you keep being the local whore who every guys wants to take out for 1 night and 1 night only. You better hope you don't end up with something that you can't get rid of, not too many guys or women would want you after that.
Jester III
19-12-2005, 15:03
I never thought that I'd fall in love, and it was hardly upsetting to me. But now that I have given my heart away, I don't think I can do it again. I'm still in love with him, and always will be.

I still care about Risa, but I hardly feel about her the same way I felt about B.
I wish I'd fallen for her first.
Hearts are overrated anyway. Had some of mine broken and lost, but they grow back like a lizards tail. :D
Do yourself a favour and kick Boy in the nuts next time you see him.

And now for something completely different: All those people telling you how it will work out right, i am sorry, but dont trust them. I know, its all meant well, but puzzles doesnt fall into the right places by themselves. There is nothing you can do about her vacation, so use the time and make up your mind.
Do you want a relationship? If so, why? Why with Risa when you love someone else? Why do you love an asshole? If you dont want a relationship but a friendship with benefits, why be anxious if she has sex with someone else?
Realise that you both agreed to nothing. If anything, i would find your confession of loving someone else more than her being a lot more "unfaithfull" than her possibly having fun, because you dont have an outspoken relationship.
Maineiacs
19-12-2005, 16:29
There's no need to call her a whore. She's just young and hasn't totally figured herself out yet.
Grave_n_idle
19-12-2005, 17:04
London, Ontario. If you have to ask, then you must never have been here.
Either that, or you're one of them...:eek:

Ahhh.. okay. No, the London I know is a much different geography... and several thousand miles from the one you describe.

The London I know, rocks. :)
Grave_n_idle
19-12-2005, 17:10
And I guess I was right!!! Boy knows girl will give it up with little to no effort, boy uses girl for what she gives out to so many. Girl gets hurt, boy moves on to new girl. Girl then worries more about a pair of panties then anything else it sounds. Yep I was right, classic whore. By the way, not all whores charge for it. The really sad part is you have no self control or respect and don't care what kind of crap you get from any of these guys and you don't even sound that old. You will be used like that guy used you for the rest of your life as long as you keep being the local whore who every guys wants to take out for 1 night and 1 night only. You better hope you don't end up with something that you can't get rid of, not too many guys or women would want you after that.

If you have nothing worthwhile to say, feel free to comment in some other thread.

Your opinion is neither wanted, nor valued, here.

What you are doing, I suspect, is 'flamebaiting'... trying to offend someone to the point that they will flame you in response.

It's actually kind of against the forum rules.

And, it's just ugly to watch.

Kindly take your frustrations out somewhere else.
Teh_pantless_hero
19-12-2005, 17:19
You better hope you don't end up with something that you can't get rid of, not too many guys or women would want you after that.
And I have such a good snide remark that I almost want to waste a warning on it.
Ravenshrike
19-12-2005, 17:31
And if you don't like it, don't reed it. It's called common sense. And think about someone other then yourself, theres no need to be meen to our poor little Oxwana. She needs our moral support.
GO OX GO!:p
Dammit people, you're making me quote myself less than a page after it was posted.

:headbang: Don't feed the rather obvious and pathetic troll dammit. :headbang:
Microscopian
20-12-2005, 01:30
If you have nothing worthwhile to say, feel free to comment in some other thread.

Your opinion is neither wanted, nor valued, here.

What you are doing, I suspect, is 'flamebaiting'... trying to offend someone to the point that they will flame you in response.

It's actually kind of against the forum rules.

And, it's just ugly to watch.

Kindly take your frustrations out somewhere else.

Thank you Grave. I was going to say the same thing when I read that.


Ox, don't listen to crap like that, you know they're only trying to get you mad.

Now where was I... GO OX, YOU CAN DO IT! (male chearleader*sudder*)

EDIT: I ment myself. I'm sure Risa would look great in a chearleaders outfit;)
Liger Island
20-12-2005, 04:35
I dunno...
I had a boyfriend. I still love him... I wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. If it were up to me, I'd still be with him. I'd take him back now, even after he's ripped my heart out.
I think it may have more to do with being afraid or unable to get into another relationship... I'm kind of damaged goods. Maybe that has made me more needy...

There was one guy that I really cared about too, and I have the same opinion. He really hurt me and, if it was up to me, I would take him back in an instant. Ever since then, I've tried dating, but it's just not fun. I keep thinking of him instead. I just hope for myself and others to be happy. Hey, my motto is "Love is the only medicine for a broken heart". Until then, try to have all the fun you can.
Maineiacs
20-12-2005, 05:54
Why would you miss someone who treated you like crap? I finally got tired of the crap my ex-girlfriend used to pull on me. You ladies both deserve better.
Microscopian
22-12-2005, 01:02
Sooo... I'm guessing this forum is down untill Risa gets back then...
Aww, I was just getting to know people :p

Honestly girl, live for the moment, and don't let the future get you down. You don't know how it will turn out anyways, so why depress yourself? Who knows, maby she will want to come back just for anothre go at the "Irrisistable Oxwana"*oh, I can't spell, sorry*. Now chear up, get happy, and stay happy. And you know, now, that you have a place to talk if anything is bothering you :p You have friends on the Interweb!:D
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 01:28
You've got to be shitting me...

This fucking thread is still fucking going? Make your goddamn mind up already
Yeah, I have stopped in to check on it about twice since its inception, and there has been a remarkable change.

It seems that Oxwana has gone from abhorring the thought of lesbian sex to being an outright homo. I never thought that sexuality could be so fluid!
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 01:41
The oddest thing about this thread is that i just opened it for the first time about thirty seconds ago, and it said I alrady voted. :eek:
I don't know Melkor, you spend a lot of time on this forum. Maybe it's not your first visit to the thread?
Oxwana
22-12-2005, 01:52
Sooo... I'm guessing this forum is down untill Risa gets back then...
Aww, I was just getting to know people :p

Honestly girl, live for the moment, and don't let the future get you down. You don't know how it will turn out anyways, so why depress yourself? Who knows, maby she will want to come back just for anothre go at the "Irrisistable Oxwana"*oh, I can't spell, sorry*. Now chear up, get happy, and stay happy. And you know, now, that you have a place to talk if anything is bothering you :p You have friends on the Interweb!:DYeah...
I'm not sure how much I want a relationship anymore. I miss her like crazy already, and she's been gone for what, a week? What will it be like when she goes away for good this summer? I can't do that to myself.
So I'll wait for my friend to get back from vacation. I hope she's having fun. I dunno, maybe I'll mess around with her a little this year, but only if I have no feelings for her whatsoever.
Eruantalon
22-12-2005, 01:53
Women don't jack off, they have nothing to jack off so maybe you need to think about what you post before you lie and get caught. Real women just don't seem to talk like that but hey maybe it's just me. I would have to say though, WTG on over 900 posts just because the topic had lesbo in it. Caught my attention. :)
Worst post ever.
Zefielia
22-12-2005, 02:03
I hereby proclaim Oxwana to be a confused, bisexual, teenage spider!
Oxwana
22-12-2005, 05:11
I hereby proclaim Oxwana to be a confused, bisexual, teenage spider!A hot one.
Microscopian
22-12-2005, 21:58
Yeah...
I'm not sure how much I want a relationship anymore. I miss her like crazy already, and she's been gone for what, a week? What will it be like when she goes away for good this summer? I can't do that to myself.
So I'll wait for my friend to get back from vacation. I hope she's having fun. I dunno, maybe I'll mess around with her a little this year, but only if I have no feelings for her whatsoever.

You know the saying, "It is better to have loved and lost then to have never loved at all." Realy, don't be afraid to do anything just because you like her. Shouldn't that make it just that much better?

You know, I was going to give a motivational speech, but I just lost it... Sorry :headbang:
Oxwana
23-12-2005, 02:02
You know the saying, "It is better to have loved and lost then to have never loved at all." Realy, don't be afraid to do anything just because you like her. Shouldn't that make it just that much better?

You know, I was going to give a motivational speech, but I just lost it... Sorry :headbang:I just don't do temporary love. I don't want to fall for her then lose her, and I could never ask her to stay in London with me. I talked to her earlier today. She's happier than she has been in a year, and she wishes that I could see the "happy [her]".
I wish I could too.
I'll take what I can get from her if she'll have me when she comes back, but I cannot fall in love with her. If only she weren't so goddamn loveable.:(
Santa Barbara
23-12-2005, 02:51
It seems every forum has someone who makes a big spectacle of themselves and airs all their personal problems in some mondo thread with an annoying title.
Microscopian
23-12-2005, 04:01
What are the chances you can go with her? And see her Happy ;)
If not, I'm sorry to hear this, and I hope you can at least enjoy the time you will have together...

Yea, The person I like lives half a continent away (I'm in NY, she's in Colorado). We are going strong, and the distance only makes us that much closer... If that makes sense. In other words, we like eachother for personality, how we act, not just how they look, but I don't know if you would like that... it takes comitment, and you realy want to be together if you want it to work... Um, nevermind.
Grave_n_idle
23-12-2005, 04:45
It seems every forum has someone who makes a big spectacle of themselves and airs all their personal problems in some mondo thread with an annoying title.

It seems that every forum has an almost limitless supply of people who check into threads because they get a cheap thrill from a title, then (apparently) decide that they can shrug off their teenage embarrassment, by the application of vitriol....
Santa Barbara
23-12-2005, 04:47
It seems that every forum has an almost limitless supply of people who check into threads because they get a cheap thrill from a title, then (apparently) decide that they can shrug off their teenage embarrassment, by the application of vitriol....

Cheap thrill from the title? Hardly. Actually, it annoyed me. And since I'm not a teenager that doesn't really apply either. And hey, isn't that vitriol you yourself are applying? Why yes, yes it is. Hypocrite.
Grave_n_idle
23-12-2005, 04:49
I just don't do temporary love. I don't want to fall for her then lose her, and I could never ask her to stay in London with me. I talked to her earlier today. She's happier than she has been in a year, and she wishes that I could see the "happy [her]".
I wish I could too.
I'll take what I can get from her if she'll have me when she comes back, but I cannot fall in love with her. If only she weren't so goddamn loveable.:(

Why can't you ask her to stay in London? Why can't you follow her?

Why are you trying to make decisions so far in your future?

You are borrowing trouble. What you should 'worry' about, is the here and now... and just let the future work itself out for a while.

By the time it comes time for her to leave, you might have gone right off each other, anyway.... or you may be a happily (gay)married couple...

Stop trying to make your heart obey your head, my friend... it won't make you happy. Just wait and see.... for the moment, at least.
Grave_n_idle
23-12-2005, 04:54
Cheap thrill from the title? Hardly. Actually, it annoyed me. And since I'm not a teenager that doesn't really apply either. And hey, isn't that vitriol you yourself are applying? Why yes, yes it is. Hypocrite.

So... you log into threads all the time, because you get 'annoyed' by people's sexuality? It's a story... just not a convincing one.

I didn't say you were a teenager, did I? I merely stated that it looks like 'teenage embarrassment'. Being a teenager would have, perhaps, mitigated that...

Is it vitriol I am applying? Not that I have seen? What did you consider particularly vitriolic? Did I mention 'spectacle threads' or 'annoying titles'? Not that I recall....

I'm loathe to respond to the accusation of 'hypocrite'... since responding to it seems to dignify it to an extent greater than it deserves... I certainly wouldn't say that it was I that had fallen into the trap of random trolling and flaming in threads.
Santa Barbara
23-12-2005, 04:59
So... you log into threads all the time, because you get 'annoyed' by people's sexuality?

No. Stop trying to make it into some gay rights thing. I'm annoyed by the title, the fact that if I were to make a thread about "lesbo" it would be called flamebaiting.


I didn't say you were a teenager, did I? I merely stated that it looks like 'teenage embarrassment'. Being a teenager would have, perhaps, mitigated that...

Well, embarassment has nothing to do with it.


Is it vitriol I am applying? Not that I have seen? What did you consider particularly vitriolic? Did I mention 'spectacle threads' or 'annoying titles'? Not that I recall....

How is "spectacle threads" vitriolic? Anyway, you're obviously annoyed by me and your little attempt at telepathic psychoanalysis is your attempt at vitriol.

I'm loathe to respond to the accusation of 'hypocrite'... since responding to it seems to dignify it to an extent greater than it deserves... I certainly wouldn't say that it was I that had fallen into the trap of random trolling and flaming in threads.

Please tell me how I flamed. I would like to know. Better yet, tell the mods, if its such a giant problem for you that I post my opinion.
Grave_n_idle
23-12-2005, 05:44
No. Stop trying to make it into some gay rights thing. I'm annoyed by the title, the fact that if I were to make a thread about "lesbo" it would be called flamebaiting.


Would it be flamebaiting?

Perhaps I am in error, but I assume that the use of 'lesbo', in this context, has been a vernacular issue.

If you DID start a thread about "lesbo", would it be an exploration of your own troubled sexuality?


Well, embarassment has nothing to do with it.


Indeed. You claim it was the title that stirred your ire. I'm yet to be convinced that that is entirely the case.


How is "spectacle threads" vitriolic? Anyway, you're obviously annoyed by me and your little attempt at telepathic psychoanalysis is your attempt at vitriol.


I would hardly describe myself as 'obviously annoyed', my friend. That would imply that you had been capable of inspiring some passionate emotion either way.

What you perceive as 'obviously annoyed'.... is probably closer to a vague disinterest, in general. But, please, don't feel too insulted by that.

I quite like the thing about 'telepathic psychoanalysis', though... I honestly believe it to be the first time that particular accusation has been levelled against me.


Please tell me how I flamed. I would like to know. Better yet, tell the mods, if its such a giant problem for you that I post my opinion.

Sorry - did I claim it to be a great problem? Once again, my friend... I think you overestimate the impact of your post.

Yours is but one of a number of similar posts, interrupting what has been a fairly comprehensive, long, and (relatively) serious discussion... with trivialities about how one person or another is SO offended by the thread, that they just had to open it up, read some, and then post some 'incredibly insightful and new' commentary.
Santa Barbara
23-12-2005, 06:06
Would it be flamebaiting?

Perhaps I am in error, but I assume that the use of 'lesbo', in this context, has been a vernacular issue.

If you DID start a thread about "lesbo", would it be an exploration of your own troubled sexuality?

It is vernacular, but it's kind of like how if a black person calls a black person a nigga, its OK but if a white person does it it's racist.

And of course not, regarding your last question.


Indeed. You claim it was the title that stirred your ire. I'm yet to be convinced that that is entirely the case.

Well, yes. I get annoyed by the oddest things. 'vernacular' being one. I mean, the thread was a question thats obviously been answered, now it appears to be someones personal therapy session, mixed with a bunch of horny guys crowding around the concept of sexy lesbians. That latter also bugs me, since I must be the only straight man in the world who doesn't get turned on at the mention of lesbian.


I would hardly describe myself as 'obviously annoyed', my friend. That would imply that you had been capable of inspiring some passionate emotion either way.

Hmm, annoyance isn't all that passionate.


What you perceive as 'obviously annoyed'.... is probably closer to a vague disinterest, in general. But, please, don't feel too insulted by that.

I quite like the thing about 'telepathic psychoanalysis', though... I honestly believe it to be the first time that particular accusation has been levelled against me.

There's a first time for everything! Online psychoanalysis seems to be fairly common though.


Sorry - did I claim it to be a great problem? Once again, my friend... I think you overestimate the impact of your post.

Well, I was content to make one post but you seemed to take offense in your objection. I know it's not a great problem, but it wasn't apparent that you know that too.


Yours is but one of a number of similar posts, interrupting what has been a fairly comprehensive, long, and (relatively) serious discussion... with trivialities about how one person or another is SO offended by the thread, that they just had to open it up, read some, and then post some 'incredibly insightful and new' commentary.

I'm not aiming for insight and newness.
Svalbardania
23-12-2005, 08:06
I dont like this arguing, its all too personal and cutting... though I'm tending to agree with Grave_n_idle on the last few posts, it'd be nice to hear some positive comments.

Speaking of which, have there been any developments? This thread has sparked my curiosity... it's like one big episode of The Bold and the Beautiful.
Grave_n_idle
23-12-2005, 08:30
It is vernacular... I'm not aiming for insight and newness.

Well, I'm done flogging horses. As Svalbardania points out, it really doesn't serve the purpose of the thread.

I won't be responding to any more posts on this subject, should you care to make any.... so, you'd serve no other purpose than to further inflate your post count, and further derail a thread you have claimed you didn't have any interest in, in the first place.
Fascist Dominion
23-12-2005, 08:59
Well, yes. I get annoyed by the oddest things. 'vernacular' being one. I mean, the thread was a question thats obviously been answered, now it appears to be someones personal therapy session, mixed with a bunch of horny guys crowding around the concept of sexy lesbians. That latter also bugs me, since I must be the only straight man in the world who doesn't get turned on at the mention of lesbian.

You are quite mistaken. I am heterosexual male who finds no intrinsic sexual gratification at the mention of lesbians. And I see nothing wrong with turning a thread into a therapy session. Some people, much unlike yourself, are interested in assisting people with their problems, not proverbially battering them to despairing silence. Oxwana provides an insight into modern teen sexuality and presents a view which may make some conservative asses like yourself more than a little uncomfortable. To you she may have no value, but I find great value in her thought patterns, for they closely resemble mine in some respects, but you, contrarily, you spark a cord of irritation within me. And yes, annoyance can provide passion, for that which elicits anger incites great passion indeed. If you do not wish to find yourself in a new and exciting level of Hell after your untimely and rather painful death, you would be wise to cease all flaming. :mad: :mad: :mad: :sniper:
Santa Barbara
23-12-2005, 09:20
some conservative asses like yourself

If you do not wish to find yourself in a new and exciting level of Hell after your untimely and rather painful death, you would be wise to cease all flaming. :mad: :mad: :mad: :sniper:

Gee, I like how you flame and then tell me to stop flaming. The possible death threat is nice too. I give you an A+ for hypocrisy.
Fascist Dominion
23-12-2005, 09:25
Gee, I like how you flame and then tell me to stop flaming. The possible death threat is nice too. I give you an A+ for hypocrisy.

It is only a temporary arrangement, I assure you. And if you would learn to read carefully, you would realize it's not death threat:headbang: ; it's an after-death threat:headbang: . In this world, I cannot punish you, but in the next, you will suffer immeasurably. Have a nice day.:cool:
Santa Barbara
23-12-2005, 09:28
It is only a temporary arrangement, I assure you. And if you would learn to read carefully, you would realize it's not death threat:headbang: ; it's an after-death threat:headbang: . In this world, I cannot punish you, but in the next, you will suffer immeasurably. Have a nice day.:cool:

Oh okay. I go to Hell because of a post I made on NS General that offends you. That's certainly not melodramatic overreaction! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:
Sherward Forest
23-12-2005, 09:31
you guys really are picky twats....
Fascist Dominion
23-12-2005, 09:34
Oh okay. I go to Hell because of a post I made on NS General that offends you. That's certainly not melodramatic overreaction! :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:
Insolent cur. You know nothing of the universe. You should be more cautious of whom you offend. Many things do not function in a logical manner. In the grand scope of things perhaps honor and respect hold more value to the gods than petty victories. Perhaps you should take a wise man's advice, "To be wise is simple: think of something stupid to say and say the opposite." Now all you have to do is say the opposite.
Fascist Dominion
23-12-2005, 09:36
you guys really are picky twats....
He caught me in a flaming mood. :D
Sherward Forest
23-12-2005, 09:37
you guys sound like a bunch of arrogant GCSE english students discussing how they are better than each other...
do you not have a life?
Fascist Dominion
23-12-2005, 09:39
you guys sound like a bunch of arrogant GCSE english students discussing how they are better than each other...
do you not have a life?
No. I tried that. It doesn't work when it's three thousand years out of place.
Santa Barbara
23-12-2005, 09:40
Insolent cur. You know nothing of the universe. You should be more cautious of whom you offend. Many things do not function in a logical manner. In the grand scope of things perhaps honor and respect hold more value to the gods than petty victories. Perhaps you should take a wise man's advice, "To be wise is simple: think of something stupid to say and say the opposite." Now all you have to do is say the opposite.

Blah blah blah. I'd love to continue beating this dead horse just because you're in a "flaming mood," but sadly my priorities take precedence over yours. Kudos for the attempt to look erudite though, its cute.
Fascist Dominion
23-12-2005, 09:49
Blah blah blah. I'd love to continue beating this dead horse just because you're in a "flaming mood," but sadly my priorities take precedence over yours. Kudos for the attempt to look erudite though, its cute.
Still you do not understand. This isn't about us, fool. This is about your apparent disregard for others and your brash attitude toward them. Oh, and moron, anyone's priorities take precedence over the priorities of others:headbang: ; that's what makes them YOUR PRIORITIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Fascist Dominion
23-12-2005, 10:05
Forgive me, Oxwana. I lost sight of the maxim, "Never argue with an idiot; he'll drag you down and beat you by experience." For all my unabashed belligerence, even the victory is hollow, almost feeling of defeat. Nonetheless, it is unnatural for me to accept such impudence as exhibited, and I could not resist defending your right to establishing this thread.

(bows stiffly, turns on heel, and melts into the Black Forest, which suddenly appeared for no reason at all:D )
Microscopian
25-12-2005, 22:06
Stop derailing the thread, we are here to help Oxwana. If you want to argue somewhere, start your own thread.

Ox, someone else said it but since I'v already got this open, I'm too lazy to go back and quote it :p . Follow your heart, it probably knows whats best. Let things work themselfs out, and don't be afraid to fall for her.

Again, I'd say more, but I gota run, family stuff. More help when I get back:)
Dumpsterdam
25-12-2005, 22:34
Right, ladies, gents, go TG each other with insults or something but keep it out of this thread.

Thank you.
Eruantalon
25-12-2005, 22:48
It seems every forum has someone who makes a big spectacle of themselves and airs all their personal problems in some mondo thread with an annoying title.
Indeed, someday I hope to be one of them.

That latter also bugs me, since I must be the only straight man in the world who doesn't get turned on at the mention of lesbian.
No, I'm with ya on that one. I sometimes like NS threads about relationships.
Eruantalon
25-12-2005, 22:54
Anyway, back on topic. I think that Oxwana looks Italian. (http://shim1.shutterfly.com/procsserv/F-gMmzVy5bOXRwIW76nuzQ)
Ma-tek
25-12-2005, 22:59
Insolent cur. You know nothing of the universe. You should be more cautious of whom you offend. Many things do not function in a logical manner. In the grand scope of things perhaps honor and respect hold more value to the gods than petty victories. Perhaps you should take a wise man's advice, "To be wise is simple: think of something stupid to say and say the opposite." Now all you have to do is say the opposite.

Ahhh. I see what this is saying. Okay, I'll do my best, since nobody else seems to be having a crack at it.

Pleasant person. You may know much about the universe. Many things do function in a logical manner. In the small world of forums, perhaps honour and respect do not matter to the gods any less than petty victories. Perhaps you should take a fool's advice: "To be stupid is not always difficult: think of something intellectual to say and say the same."

How's that?

---

Moderately back on topic...

No, SB, I'm not here to hang around a discussion about lesbians. More just for, well, the discussion. Whatever it may be.

Further, lesbians do nothing for me sexually, since it's a whole area of sex where I have absolutely nothing to do. ;)
Teh Popez0r
25-12-2005, 23:09
rofl ... i think that's an awesome idea :D

This is not a laughing matter. We need pictures.

And also, why aren't there any "well-stacked" girls who "like to mess around" with other girls at my school? hmm?
Oxwana
26-12-2005, 03:11
This is not a laughing matter. We need pictures.

And also, why aren't there any "well-stacked" girls who "like to mess around" with other girls at my school? hmm?There probably are, you just don't know that there are.
Someone used the "I don't know any gay people" line on me the other day. I just laughed, and laughed, and laughed... And they still didn't get it.
Voorheesia
26-12-2005, 03:25
who cares if you are a lesbian or not as long as you are having fun, tsaying safe and broadcasting it over the internet
Terecia
26-12-2005, 03:45
Lol @ facist for being a pseudo intellect. To you I say this( from ABC MALL):

"Next time, in promulgating your esoteric cogitations, or articulating your superficial sentimentalities and amicable, philosophical or psychological observations, beware of platitudinous ponderosity. Let your conversational communications possess a clarified conciseness, a compacted comprehensibleness, coalescent consistency, and a concatenated cogency. Eschew all conglomerations of flatulent garrulity, jejune babblement, and asinine affectations.

Let your extemporaneous descantings and unpremeditated expatiations have intelligibility and veracious vivacity, without rodomontade or thrasonical bombast. Sedulously avoid all polysyllabic profundity, pompous prolixity, psittaceous vacuity ventriloquial verbosity, and vaniloquent vapidity. Shun double-entendres, prurient jocosity, and pestiferous profanity, obscurant or apparent!!"
Megaloria
26-12-2005, 04:00
Lol @ facist for being a pseudo intellect. To you I say this( from ABC MALL):

"Next time, in promulgating your esoteric cogitations, or articulating your superficial sentimentalities and amicable, philosophical or psychological observations, beware of platitudinous ponderosity. Let your conversational communications possess a clarified conciseness, a compacted comprehensibleness, coalescent consistency, and a concatenated cogency. Eschew all conglomerations of flatulent garrulity, jejune babblement, and asinine affectations.

Let your extemporaneous descantings and unpremeditated expatiations have intelligibility and veracious vivacity, without rodomontade or thrasonical bombast. Sedulously avoid all polysyllabic profundity, pompous prolixity, psittaceous vacuity ventriloquial verbosity, and vaniloquent vapidity. Shun double-entendres, prurient jocosity, and pestiferous profanity, obscurant or apparent!!"

I think you're turning me on.
Terecia
26-12-2005, 04:08
*hopes Megaloria is a girl*
eheheheh well...*thinks of some lame pick up line*
Well, your making my enzymes denature.
511 LaFarge
26-12-2005, 04:13
Your not a lesbian, but please videotape it.
Megaloria
26-12-2005, 04:13
*hopes Megaloria is a girl*
eheheheh well...*thinks of some lame pick up line*
Well, your making my enzymes denature.

No, I'm a guy. I was just shouting out to all those verbophiles out there.