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I have nothing agaisnt these people. Its not like I'm going to attack him i have a NAP, and he can't attack me. Because we have a NAP.

He can easily break it you know. And he might if he feels like it.

The old thing of "improving the economy and saving the people". Everyones says that, infact in an earth I was in before someone said that same thing about the same island. You'd probably do better in detering the NPO by just admitting you want some more land, hey, they'd probably like you - by the sounds of things there gonna be imperialists, and would like to see someone else was. :p Of course, I'm only speculating.

Its true! Gosh can't people belive I have good intentions!

The old thing of "improving the economy and saving the people". Everyones says that, infact in an earth I was in before someone said that same thing about the same island. You'd probably do better in detering the NPO by just admitting you want some more land, hey, they'd probably like you - by the sounds of things there gonna be imperialists, and would like to see someone else was. :p Of course, I'm only speculating.

You wanna bet he can't attack you? He can break the NAP. Happens all the time in other Nation Sim games that revolve around alliances. Lemme tell ya' here: NAPs mean virtually nothing in nation-sim games. They're broken all the time. MDPs mean a lot more.

As T&T, Waldenburg made a very nice proposition to an alliance that's all about making money, gaining power, and coming out on top-he offered tribute and free trade with T&T, and also oil reserves that we can continue to use as Methane Hydrate mining comes more into effect. That tells the NPO that we can come in and exploit a little nation simply by warding off some invaders, than playing as the good guy and basically ripping off T&T for all it's worth, while playing the card as liberators all the time. It's win-win for us.

ATTN: All EC nations http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12908350 please cast your votes on "pressing issues" - sorry for the flaws and not asking you about your issues first, but I got carried away :p

Kroando, would you mind if I take the role of the Czech resistance? Applies to AB as well.

AB, can you go on MSN. We need to plot...

Er...I already kinda started. You can take a civilian resistance if you want, or, if you want, you can take over from where I started, as that'd free me up for North Korea.

BHR, expect the three NPO guys not to get involved in the UN...we don't like world peace

What is the NPO, as i believe i'm under a protectorate agreement.

And I claim mexico and south to venezula as mine-does anyone wanna rp me taking over Honduras?

VDB: technically you're an associate member, so you get economic bonuses...

New Pacific Order, the Badass alliance of the world.

I would rather have an NPC player who does not have a third-party intrest in the conflict. As you are a European power, and are quite close, I just wonder if you will be getting involved. If you are going to become involved, I would prefer Amazonia. If not, and you just want to be involved as the resistance, than I do not really care, and it's up to you two.

VDB: technically you're an associate member, so you get economic bonuses...

New Pacific Order, the Badass alliance of the world.

OK then, is there a thread of some sort?

Also, I joined the UN. Is that against some charter?

Not yet. We do MSN planning :P

You can join the UN, we're probaly gonna have some "fun" with it...

Not yet. We do MSN planning :P

You can join the UN, we're probaly gonna have some "fun" with it...

Damn skippy :D

btw AB its June 07 may was yesterday.......

Ab-fb

btw AB its June 07 may was yesterday.......

Ya, I'll put it to July tomorrow...

Hey, does anyone wanna rp with me because I'd like to take over Jamaica and the Cayman Islands.

Hey, does anyone wanna rp with me because I'd like to take over Jamaica and the Cayman Islands.

You so sure about that? The carribian will be mine! Don't nobody touch it!

You so sure about that? The carribian will be mine! Don't nobody touch it!

Let's go!!

The US and Cuba vs. Panama, Nicaragua, and Costa Rica. Sounds Fair. :(

Hey, Kampf, I'll strike you a deal. I get the rest of mainland Central America plus Dominican Republic, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, the Bahamas, and Puerto Rico. You already have the US and Cuba, you get the rest of the Caribbean. And we're allies, so if you want to cause a split in the NPO...

Let's go!!

The US and Cuba vs. Panama, Nicaragua, and Costa Rica. Sounds Fair. :(

Hey, Kampf, I'll strike you a deal. I get the rest of mainland Central America plus Dominican Republic, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, the Bahamas, and Puerto Rico. You already have the US and Cuba, you get the rest of the Caribbean. And we're allies, so if you want to cause a split in the NPO...

Hell no. 1st off, your tiny military can't stand against all those places.

2nd, you took my most prized possession in the Carib, Puerto Rico.

3rd, everyone in the NPO would side with me (go america :P)

4th, if you want to do that, here is how it will work. I get Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica, and you get anyhting left.

Hey, does anyone wanna rp with me because I'd like to take over Jamaica and the Cayman Islands.

You lack the naval transport/aerial transport capabilities to even move a sizable force to the said locations man..

will someone please rp as Guam and Asencion island?

Hell no. 1st off, your tiny military can't stand against all those places.

2nd, you took my most prized possession in the Carib, Puerto Rico.

3rd, everyone in the NPO would side with me (go america :P)

4th, if you want to do that, here is how it will work. I get Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica, and you get anyhting left.

You've gotta love tyranny.

You've gotta love tyranny.

XD

Dictatorships are win.

There http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533945 The United Nations thread. It's rubbish, but no one else at the time wanted too...anyway, that's my RPing with the UN done with, apart from when I stick my big nose into resolutions.

ATTN: All EC nations http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12908350 please cast your votes on "pressing issues"

Well everyone, I believe we are about to have a grand ol' war in Central Europe... ill do my best to soften ya'll up for the NPO, should be fun.

Well everyone, I believe we are about to have a grand ol' war in Central Europe... ill do my best to soften ya'll up for the NPO, should be fun.

I love how you are using equipment that isn't even in your factbook. Your factbook makes no mention of MiG-29s, 2K12 Kubs, S-200s, quite a few things actually.

Your factbook:

Air Defense.
SA-7 [1,200]
SA-13 [75]
SA-18 [210]
SA-14 [500]
SA-16 [200]
Bofors 40 mm gun L/70 [350]
ZU-23-2 [428]
GIRAFFE Radar [18]

Aircraft.
Trainer Aircraft [560]
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 [155]
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 [125]
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 [62]
Harbin H-5 Light Bomber [2]
G-4 Super Galebs. [100]
Mirage F-1A [25]
Su-22 [40]
Su-24 [12]


Your post:
If the Granatian high military command had thought that their attack would come as some sort of supprise to the Union Army, they were soarly... soarly mistaken. Long before the first strike occured, as a matter of fact, before any fighting at all had occured, the Union's Eastern Forces were setting up their positions. Mobile SAM Sites were deployed along the border, especially in areas in which the Granatian aircraft were picked up as patroling. Mobile and immobile RADAR stations across the border picked up every move the other side made in the air, and was well prepared for the strike when it did indeed come. Hundreds of shoulder mounted SAM units were dug in along the border, all using the guidance of the various radar set-ups along the border. Scores of 2K12 Kub's sat dug into tank-defences along the border, their long-range missiles having the capability to strike down aircraft over 75kilometers away. They were accompanied by a variety of 9K31 Strela-1's, 9K37 Buk's, and 9K35 Strela-10's, all dug in and camoflauged, and of course, hooked up to the greater RADAR grid. They were dug in so as to avoid any sort of RADAR detection, and to eliminate their heat signatures... and camoflagued so as to hide themselves from visible detection. S-200 towed systems were set up in the hills, next to houses, near various cover to avoid detection... they too were linked to the RADAR grid, ready to strike down the enemy when the opportunity presented itself. And then there were the RADAR installations. Doubtlessly they would be targeted. They were covered with Anti-Aircraft Guns, Bofors 40mm's and Bushmasters, so that when the enemy did indeed attempt to fly into the area, they would be covered... covered in exploding lead.

I bolded the important parts. Until you fix the parts that are wrong, I am going to ignore the entire post, because it's BS. Also, MANPADs can't reach aircraft at 40,000 Feet.

^^ And the military equipment god strikes again.

^^ And the military equipment god strikes again.

Happy it isn't you for once?

'Twasnt always me, just that one time with Djibouti that I remember... if I've forgotten, no need to remind me, it's obviously in the past.

But yes, I am glad, and yes, all my military hardware, until more gets made, is what I will be using... I just need to find stats on air defense stuff and underwater stuff.

My navy is a bunch of wooden rowboats, my airforce is paper airplanes, my army is men with straws and paper, and my police force is cavemen with sticks.

Well everyone, I believe we are about to have a grand ol' war in Central Europe... ill do my best to soften ya'll up for the NPO, should be fun.

Kro, does any of your territory touch the Pacific? That's the kind of key phrase in the New Pacific Order Deal lol.

Well you see Gran, my factbook is under construction... I am using the exact RL tech of my nations... so ya, all of my stuff... RL Hungarian/Slovakian. I am permitted to use the RL tech, and now that I clearly needed some more of it... so I looked it up. If youre going to ignore the RP cause im using 2nd world tech, then fine.

Still need someone to RP as Guam and Ascencion Island.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533636

Also, does anyone object to me changing the rp i had for Diego Garcia to Kwajalein? It would in effect be exactly the same except I get that island instead...

Finally, if AB and Candistan can get on msn...

Kamps, you have a message in your factbook

Kamps, you have a message in your factbook

yep. I know, I wanna talk to my boys first.

Also, please never call me Kamps again ;)

Well you see Gran, my factbook is under construction... I am using the exact RL tech of my nations... so ya, all of my stuff... RL Hungarian/Slovakian. I am permitted to use the RL tech, and now that I clearly needed some more of it... so I looked it up. If youre going to ignore the RP cause im using 2nd world tech, then fine.

The problem he has is that your using technology your nations do not have. Checking numbers in Janes, your territories have zero 2K12's, no S-200's (Only operators being Ukraine and Russia), a dozen 9K31 Strela-1, eight 9K35 Strela-10, and zero 9K37 Buk's (Only operators being Russia, Ukraine, and Finland). Also, the Kub's do not have a range to "Strike down aircraft" at 75 kilometers: The system can begin tracking targets at 75 kilometers, illuminating them at 28 kilometers, and the missiles actual maximum range is 24 kilometers.

yep. I know, I wanna talk to my boys first.

Also, please never call me Kamps again ;)

Gah, sorry, finger pressed "s" instead of "f"... Kampf, lol

Kroando basically needs a better military before they go to war, otherwise they are gonna get screwed up, real bad :)

Kro, does any of your territory touch the Pacific? That's the kind of key phrase in the New Pacific Order Deal lol.

Nope, he's in Europe, so nowhere near the pacific, and wedged in.

Hey everyone... I'm gonna be gone for the next three days (until July 29th) so I will catch up on everything once I get back. If someone could send me a TG everyday with just a quick summary of the day's events so I'm not completely lost when I return, I'd very much appreciate it.

AD

Hell no. 1st off, your tiny military can't stand against all those places.

2nd, you took my most prized possession in the Carib, Puerto Rico.

3rd, everyone in the NPO would side with me (go america :P)

4th, if you want to do that, here is how it will work. I get Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica, and you get anyhting left.

Darn it. Well, OK. Get off my isles!

What? Who was that?

What? Who was that?

What do you mean?

Wander, Jared check TGs.

What do you mean?

Ya I'm confused to...... Its August 07 right? just wondering....

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12913392#post12913392)


Last time the mods did a 'Hard Delete' on accident instead of a soft. NOt done. I still have to add my navy, airforce, and diplomacy.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/williamsfilms/EMB-88.jpg

EMB-88 Hades Tactical fighter

The new EMB-88 Hades Tactical fighter is the top of the line in fighter technology. Designers at Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A. have been working day in and out on this new tactical fighter design for the Brazilian Air force and Navy. This new fighter will be the new design for air defense over Brazilian skies as well as the new attack fighter for the Brazilian navy to complement the F-18s purchased from the Kampferians. 100 Models are planned to be built in the first wave of production. 75 "A" models for the Air Force and 75 "N" Models for the Navy. The estimated price for this unit is 54 Million apiece.


Primary Function: Tactical fighter
Contractor: Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A.
Power Plant: Two Embraer F00x turbofan engines with afterburners.
Thrust: 25,000 pounds each engine
Length: 18 Meters
Height: 4 Meters
Wingspan: 12 Meters
Speed: Mach 2.3
Ceiling: 60,000 feet
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 25,500 kg
Range: 3,653 miles
Armament:
1 - EM-301 20mm multibarrel internal gun, 940 rounds of ammunition
2- Wingtip Harports
4- Hardports under wing
4- Internal Hardports
EMB-88 can carry up to 13,800 pounds of external ordnance.
Carrier Capable: Yes


Just a quick question. Is this design realistic?

DP, Wander, AD, and Hon you all have TGs.

Right back at ya.

Yeah, I am online so if you think you need a reply from the message you have sent then it is there. (Hon, DP)

Carlo: I do indeed have a navy. I've yet to add it, my flagship is the Royal Thai Carrier that TSS sold to me.

EMB-88 Hades Tactical fighter[/B]

The new EMB-88 Hades Tactical fighter is the top of the line in fighter technology. Designers at Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A. have been working day in and out on this new tactical fighter design for the Brazilian Air force and Navy. This new fighter will be the new design for air defense over Brazilian skies as well as the new attack fighter for the Brazilian navy to complement the F-18s purchased from the Kampferians. 100 Models are planned to be built in the first wave of production. 75 "A" models for the Air Force and 75 "N" Models for the Navy. The estimated price for this unit is 54 Million apiece.


Primary Function: Tactical fighter
Contractor: Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A.
Power Plant: Two Embraer F00x turbofan engines with afterburners.
Thrust: 25,000 pounds each engine
Length: 18 Meters
Height: 4 Meters
Wingspan: 12 Meters
Speed: Mach 2.3
Ceiling: 60,000 feet
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 25,500 kg
Range: 3,653 miles
Armament:
1 - EM-301 20mm multibarrel internal gun, 940 rounds of ammunition
2- Wingtip Harports
4- Hardports under wing
4- Internal Hardports
EMB-88 can carry up to 13,800 pounds of external ordnance.
Carrier Capable: Yes


Just a quick question. Is this design realistic?

Combat Range or Ferry Range? and Normal Miles or Naughtical Miles? and how much of that Take of Weight is Fuel and Payload? This is the form I usually use for aircraft Design. its usually nice to give it a brief over view


Type: Self Explanitory
Contractor: See Above
Length: Self Explanitory
Wingspan: Self Explanitory
Height: Self Explanitory
Tail Span: Self Explanitory
Propulsion: Number - Model - Thrust - Type (Ramjet, Turbofan, Ramfan etc)
Empty Weight: How much it weighs Empty
Maximum Take-Off Weight: The max it can take off with
Normal Payload: How much of that Weight is a normal Payload
Maximum Payload: How much if that is the MAX payload (Including External Hard points bare in mind to include Fuel Weight which is usually 40-60% of the take off weight)
Combat Range: How Far it can Fly in Combat Configuration
Ferry Range: How far it can Ferry itself and pilot usually 2.7x Comabat Range
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: Operational Combat Altitude
Maximum Altitude: Max Altitude before the Engines Cut out
Cruising Speed: General Cruise Speed
Super-cruising Speed: Super Cruise Speed if it can; if not N/A
After-burning Speed: Speed with After Burners
Maximum Speed: the max speed with full Afterburn and Accel
Rate of Climb: How fast it climbs; could include max angle of attack
Armament: Tot up your Pylons here

Internal -
Typical Internal Load out

External -
Typical External Load out

Crew: Number of Crew; usually 1 or 2
Systems:
List any Advanced Systems

Price:
Unit Cost: Self Explanitory; usually how much it costs to produce
Maintanance Cost: Usually 30% of above
Export Cost: Usually 1.5x Unit Cost

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2159/em8cc7.jpg

"Cammo Grey" paint scheme.

EMB-88 Hades Tactical fighter

The new EMB-88 Hades Tactical fighter is the top of the line in fighter technology. Designers at Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A. have been working day in and out on this new tactical fighter design for the Brazilian Air force and Navy. This new fighter will be the new design for air defense over Brazilian skies as well as the new attack fighter for the Brazilian navy to complement the F-18s purchased from the Kampferians. 100 Models are planned to be built in the first wave of production. 75 "A" models for the Air Force and 75 "N" Models for the Navy. The estimated price for this unit is 54 Million apiece.


Type: Interceptor, Strike Fighter
Contractor: Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A.
Length: 18.2 Meters
Wingspan: 13 Meters
Height: 4.8 Meters
Propulsion: 2- Embraer F00X - 25,000 pounds of Thrust - TurboFan
Weight, empty:
Design target: 13.35 kg
Specification limit: 13.45 kg
Maximum fuel weight:
Internal: 6.4 kg
External (JP5): 4.5 kg
Maximum external stores load (JP5): 8.2 kg
T-O weight, attack mission: 29.98 kg
Maximum wing loading: 610.0 kg/m2
Maximum power loading: 147.1 kg /kN
Combat Range: 1,700 nm
Ferry Range: 4,331nm
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 15,212m
Maximum Altitude: 60,000 ft
Cruising Speed: 1.5 Mach
Super-cruising Speed: 2.1 Mach
After-burning Speed: 2.3 Mach
Maximum Speed: 2.4 Mach
Armament:

Internal -
1 - EM-301 20mm multibarrel internal gun, 940 rounds of ammunition
4- Internal Hardports

External -
2- Wingtip Harports
4- Hardports under wing
17,600 pounds of external ordnance

Crew: 2

Price:
Unit Cost: 55 Million
Maintanance Cost: 17 Million
Export Cost: 82 Million

Surgestion?
Combat Range: 1,625 nm
Ferry Range: 4,331nm

Thats a more realistic range for a modern fighter

Thanks

Type: Interceptor, Strike Fighter
Contractor: Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A.
Length: 18 Meters
Wingspan: 12 Meters
Height: 4 Meters
Propulsion: 2- Embraer F00X - 25,000 pounds of Thrust - TurboFan
Empty Weight: 10,900kg
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 25,500kg
Normal Payload: 5,000kg
Maximum Payload: 7,100kg
Combat Range: 160 nm
Ferry Range: 19,000nm
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 15,212m
Maximum Altitude: 60,000 ft
Cruising Speed: 1.5 Mach
Super-cruising Speed: 2.1 Mach
After-burning Speed: 2.3 Mach
Maximum Speed: 2.4 Mach
Armament:

Internal -
1 - EM-301 20mm multibarrel internal gun, 940 rounds of ammunition
4- Internal Hardports

External -
2- Wingtip Harports
4- Hardports under wing

Crew: 2
Systems: I'll figure this out later


Price:
Unit Cost: 54 Million
Maintanance Cost: Usually 30% of above
Export Cost: Usually 1.5x Unit Cost

Surgestion?
Combat Range: 1,625 nm
Ferry Range: 4,331nm

Thats a more realistic range for a modern fighter

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2159/em8cc7.jpg

Smaller Coloured Image for you :) in "Cammo Grey"

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2159/em8cc7.jpg

Smaller Coloured Image for you :) in "Cammo Grey"

Awesomeness!!!! Thanks!!!!!

why save in jpg...

why save in jpg...

Why not?

I always use Jpg for online; though my local copys are usually BMP or PNG

Wanted to get everyone's take on this, as me and Candistan have already reviewed things.

How would everyone feel in, oh, say maybe 2-3 weeks or something, having a more...out of the box, global RP, taking advantage of "Suspension of Disbelief"? It wouldn't revolve around a nation, per se...but something akin to the ESS Alien Invasion RP we had that got activity back up to nominal levels before the mods killed it?

Just want to get feelings.

:p Watched too much transformers?

:p Watched too much transformers?

Actually, what's in our early stages isn't even close. Haven't seen Transformers, either (don't care to, neither).

Last time, though, the thread promoted activity on a high level-I feel we could do the same thing.

Actually, what's in our early stages isn't even close. Haven't seen Transformers, either (don't care to, neither).

Last time, though, the thread promoted activity on a high level-I feel we could do the same thing.

So we are to fight as a united front against aliens? :confused:

So we are to fight as a united front against aliens? :confused:

I used aliens last time, I'm probaly not going to do the same thing again. I'm just saying that a wide-spread, epic thread of the type to generate activity on a high scale for ES and make a statement. Plus, people get into it.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2159/em8cc7.jpg

"Cammo Grey" paint scheme.

EMB-88 Hades Tactical fighter

The new EMB-88 Hades Tactical fighter is the top of the line in fighter technology. Designers at Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A. have been working day in and out on this new tactical fighter design for the Brazilian Air force and Navy. This new fighter will be the new design for air defense over Brazilian skies as well as the new attack fighter for the Brazilian navy to complement the F-18s purchased from the Kampferians. 100 Models are planned to be built in the first wave of production. 75 "A" models for the Air Force and 75 "N" Models for the Navy. The estimated price for this unit is 54 Million apiece.


Type: Interceptor, Strike Fighter
Contractor: Empresa Brasileira de Aeronáutica S.A.
Length: 18 Meters
Wingspan: 12 Meters
Height: 4 Meters
Propulsion: 2- Embraer F00X - 25,000 pounds of Thrust - TurboFan
Empty Weight: 10,900kg
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 25,500kg
Normal Payload: 5,000kg
Maximum Payload: 7,100kg
Combat Range: 1,625 nm
Ferry Range: 4,331nm
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 15,212m
Maximum Altitude: 60,000 ft
Cruising Speed: 1.5 Mach
Super-cruising Speed: 2.1 Mach
After-burning Speed: 2.3 Mach
Maximum Speed: 2.4 Mach
Armament:

Internal -
1 - EM-301 20mm multibarrel internal gun, 940 rounds of ammunition
4- Internal Hardports

External -
2- Wingtip Harports
4- Hardports under wing

Crew: 2
Systems: I'll figure this out later


Price:
Unit Cost: 54 Million
Maintanance Cost: 16 Million
Export Cost: 81 Million

So is this Realistic?

What program did you use to color in the picture?

Actually, what's in our early stages isn't even close. Haven't seen Transformers, either (don't care to, neither).

Last time, though, the thread promoted activity on a high level-I feel we could do the same thing.

Its not like we are dying of lack of activity. But it sounds cool, but we should all get settled first.

Hmmm... so what are u gonna use now? Transformers? :p

Ya, but it spurns a higher level to really pump things up. Certainly did in ESS.

Kansiov: Transformers = Gay. That's my stance, even though I haven't seen the movie. It's a kids show, lawd.

Kansiov: Transformers = Gay. That's my stance, even though I haven't seen the movie. It's a kids show, lawd.

I couldn't agree more.

Definitely need to wait 2-3 weeks. That gives time for the world to polarize, so we know where we are after whatever it is you have planned. As for the event itself, I'd like to suggest something more subtle than (but that could prove just as interesting as) an extraterrestrial invasion. Something like an international series of underground rebellions trying to establish a NWO or anything else along those lines. Not an outright war in every nation, but, depending on how the player goes about trying to quash the rebellion before it breaks out into fighting, it could be put down harmlessly, or with much blood. It's probably too much work, or I'm rambling or something, but whatever.

I also want to let all the wars break out, so when they break and then proceed to die down, I'll probaly then launch the RP.

Not sure whether to make it subtle or brash, but Candistan and I have talked over several courses of events yet, but haven't completely decided on one.

I wouldnt mind aliens attack us, that would be very fun. Aliens 1000 years ahead of us in Technology ;)

Corbournne;12914747']I couldn't agree more.

Definitely need to wait 2-3 weeks. That gives time for the world to polarize, so we know where we are after whatever it is you have planned. As for the event itself, I'd like to suggest something more subtle than (but that could prove just as interesting as) an extraterrestrial invasion. Something like an international series of underground rebellions trying to establish a NWO or anything else along those lines. Not an outright war in every nation, but, depending on how the player goes about trying to quash the rebellion before it breaks out into fighting, it could be put down harmlessly, or with much blood. It's probably too much work, or I'm rambling or something, but whatever.

A NWO rebellion wouldnt involve everyone though, and it would be pretty hard for a rebellion of such to occur if someone didnt want it to, so we would only have like 5 nations involved. "Option 1" that AB and I decided was the best isn't exactly extraterrestrial, but it is going to involve everyone.

And AB, can you hit up MSN?

I say we have like a Zombie or Mutant attack. Like science research gone bad.

But thats just my opinion. :)

Candi, whats ur MSN?

Not gonna be on particularly long, but signing on.

It's out of the box, where we're headed right now...but it'll be fun.

The aliens were great, Kan, but we already used 'em...looking in a new direction now.

I say we have like a Zombie or Mutant attack. Like science research gone bad.

But thats just my opinion. :)

Sounds like the T-Strain, lol :p

Candi, whats ur MSN?

woodrow85@hotmail.com

Sounds like the T-Strain, lol :p



woodrow85@hotmail.com

I've actully never seen that movie but It sounds cool.

I've actully never seen that movie but It sounds cool.

I actually made up the T-Strain in EFJ. It was a rage-like virus that I unleashed on a city of mine in South Africa.

if aliens attack i will leave come on lets be realistic

if aliens attack i will leave come on lets be realistic

[ I could say the same about some nation names. ;)

Suspension of disbelief? ]

Honako and Kampf, Check your factbooks.

I actually made up the T-Strain in EFJ. It was a rage-like virus that I unleashed on a city of mine in South Africa.

I thought it was from the movie 28 days later?

if aliens attack i will leave come on lets be realistic

You weren't in ESS so you don't know how much fun it actually is. Plus, we needed to spice things up a bit anyways.

[ I could say the same about some nation names. ;)

Suspension of disbelief? ]

We can't use real nation names due to the Alt. History ban. Read the front page for SoD

I thought it was from the movie 28 days later?

I got ideas from it but I made the Infcted more intelligent. It was a mix of Rage and the Las Plagas from RE4.

Wanted to get everyone's take on this, as me and Candistan have already reviewed things.

How would everyone feel in, oh, say maybe 2-3 weeks or something, having a more...out of the box, global RP, taking advantage of "Suspension of Disbelief"? It wouldn't revolve around a nation, per se...but something akin to the ESS Alien Invasion RP we had that got activity back up to nominal levels before the mods killed it?

Just want to get feelings.

What the hell, no. I'm not going to get involved in some cheesy alien story that sounds like ViZon thought it up. Besides, activity is fine at the moment, and it just takes a little imagination and diplomacy to keep things going, hardly alien invasions and the such. I joined to roleplay an MT nation, not fight aliens.

1) The alien thing in ESS was pretty fun for me, and they didn't even freakin' invade me (Mongolia didn't really warrant an invasion, anyway). Don't knock it before you've tried it.

2) It's not going to actually be an alien invasion, just something similar that gets everyone involved. Try actually reading what people have said. Remember, suspension of disbelief, folks. If I wanted to have a nation full of elves, which is specifically allowable by the rules, would you get angry about it?

What the hell, no. I'm not going to get involved in some cheesy alien story that sounds like ViZon thought it up. Besides, activity is fine at the moment, and it just takes a little imagination and diplomacy to keep things going, hardly alien invasions and the such. I joined to roleplay an MT nation, not fight aliens.

Who said that it will be all aliens? I'll give you a nice little hint. It's mostly humans.

What the hell, no. I'm not going to get involved in some cheesy alien story that sounds like ViZon thought it up. Besides, activity is fine at the moment, and it just takes a little imagination and diplomacy to keep things going, hardly alien invasions and the such. I joined to roleplay an MT nation, not fight aliens.

Never played Halo? That's a "cheesy alien story". 'Fact, that's what I based my last one on.

I'll wait for my responses to gauge what I'll do.

Never played Halo? That's a "cheesy alien story". 'Fact, that's what I based my last one on.

I'll wait for my responses to gauge what I'll do.

If they really care that much about it we can drop the other races out of it and just keep the main antagonists. But I don't see how it matters much anyways. It's fun either way.

If they really care that much about it we can drop the other races out of it and just keep the main antagonists. But I don't see how it matters much anyways. It's fun either way.

I s'pose, but that's almost the same thing, only with people instead of "not-people".

Never played Halo? That's a "cheesy alien story". 'Fact, that's what I based my last one on.

I'll wait for my responses to gauge what I'll do.

Exactly, having to base and gauge you roleplay on a late PMT/FT video game is amusing. If you want to roleplay elements from FT/PMT, it's fine with me, I just won't be doing it.

I s'pose, but that's almost the same thing, only with people instead of "not-people".

They'll get over it. They really can't complain if they haven't tried it yet.

Halo is not bad ..it however on the greater scale of sci fi is not "good" and is still merely a game, its books show little depth or originality nor does its universe concept or devices. It is a hash up of as it were off the shelf components and if you take it as your standard to live up to you have .. a ways to go.

Imposing FT / PMT rules on people could of course allow them to brake out if you want to keep inside the game based source / inspiration say a UFO style organisation or true PMT enhancements which quite frankly for any sort of hard sci fi or even anime combat enhanced cyborg or the like makes the mastercheif or an elite or any of there subjective contemporaries look like quite small bear without resorting to FT pure handwavium. Of course that is entirely up to you.

Halo is not bad ..it however on the greater scale of sci fi is not "good" and is still merely a game, its books show little depth or originality nor does its universe concept or devices. It is a hash up of as it were off the shelf components and if you take it as your standard to live up to you have .. a ways to go.

Imposing FT / PMT rules on people could of course allow them to brake out if you want to keep inside the game based source / inspiration say a UFO style organisation or true PMT enhancements which quite frankly for any sort of hard sci fi or even anime combat enhanced cyborg or the like makes the mastercheif or an elite or any of there subjective contemporaries look like quite small bear without resorting to FT pure handwavium. Of course that is entirely up to you.

I totally did not understand what you just said, but I'm going on people stay MT, not the whole world suddenly becoming FT or PMT.

Of course, at this rate, we'll be PMT by RP year 2020...

So we are going PMT? And not staying MT?

btw its September, I think, Thats counting Sunday the 20th when we started. Or are we not counting the day we started?

I thought there was going to be realism in this rp, realism is fun aliens bad

I thought there was going to be realism in this rp, realism is fun aliens bad

You're kidding me, right? Like I said earlier, "suspension of disbelief" is key to this RP, and you knew it when you signed up. Lighten up a bit, guys.

Though I was not in ESS I agree with Willink on this one. I'm all for Suspense of disbelief, but aliens? FT aliens attacking a MT or even PMT world does not sound really as there is much of a chance for the invadees. Mind you I really like the idea of a world spanning thing but that's it, not solar system. But as you seem to have another element already in store perhaps aliens will not arise. Just weighing in.

From what I gather from AB and Candistan,

THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANY ALIENS.

Thank you.

Corbournne;12916021']From what I gather from AB and Candistan,

THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANY ALIENS.

Thank you.

Poof we can see that clearly now... :p

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533945 - A reminder to all nations, please vote in this.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533945 - A reminder to all nations, please vote in this.

Need you to check your factbook.

Need you to check your factbook.

I already snapped up that Carrier dude :) basically I've snapped up 2 Forrestals; 1 Kitty Hawk Class and the one your trying to nab off Honoko; anything else is fair game though.

I already snapped up that Carrier dude :) basically I've snapped up 2 Forrestals; 1 Kitty Hawk Class and the one your trying to nab off Honoko; anything else is fair game though.

Arg.....

Everyone vote in the Election 2007: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12916192#post12916192

Corbournne;12916021']From what I gather from AB and Candistan,

THERE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANY ALIENS.

Thank you.

Thanks. There will be no Aliens, only humans. And when I say humans, that may or may not include some slightly modified ones, so don't whine if you see any. And like DPW said, you need to lighten up. People said the same shit when we were going to do the alien invasion in ESS, and when it started they loved it. And in ESS that wasn't even to add activity, it was just to thrown in a little something new into the typical earth.

I thought there was going to be realism in this rp, realism is fun aliens bad

If we want to stay strict realist, we can't have our 2012 tech level, as that's not realistic to 2007.
Suspension of Disbelief-I sincerely hope you guys read the first post, otherwise, I have no idea what you're doing-explained everything.


Thank you Corbournne, and you're correct, the aliens is what I did last time, and like I've said three times, I am not doing the same thing as last time.

Hopefully I don't have to explain that again.

I'm claiming Canada as the Republic of Canadstein.

I'm claiming Canada as the Republic of Canadstein.

Confirmed.

We'll need to talk, Kamp...now that (muted) is booked.

well i'm bored,An assasiation will be exiting, but WHO?

Canadstein: Canada doesn't have a Nimitz nor any Wasps.

My thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534099

Where does it say that I cannot do that?

My thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534099

Where does it say that I cannot do that?

You need to use your own technology and military equipment. Likewise, you can not have B-1B Lancers or B-52 Strats as they are American equipment. I mean, if that were allowed everyone would have F-22s and B-2s.

From the first post:

"The guiding factors from RL to apply: the combined totals of your claimed nations' GDPs (Nominal), Land Area, Population, Military, and rough Technology."

My thread:

Where does it say that I cannot do that?


RL in ES: Real life factors will be kept somewhat short in ES, but we've got to have a few for balance (and lack thereof). The guiding factors from RL to apply: the combined totals of your claimed nations' GDPs (Nominal), Land Area, Population, Military, and rough Technology.


Right there ^

Right there ^

That does not mean I have to stick to my exact military.

You're right, if you can somehow buy a Nimitz class carrier from Kampfers you should be set, but when you start you have to stick with RL number, you can subtract from but not add to.

Yes it does.

Right there ^

That does not mean I have to stick to my exact military.

Uh yes, What part of RL, and Military dont u get? You dont have F-22s either.

Yes it does.

Where?

I haven't read the newest posts of this Earth or anything, but seeing as how it's open on the map and claims list, I would like to claim Algeria (6 points), Tunisia (3 points) and Malta (1 point) = 10 points.

Just so you know, guys, i'll be without internet access from now until the 1st of August or so. Not that i'm doing too much here at the moment anyway, but it's just an FYI. Other Earths have had a most unfortunate tendency to implode and/or get banned by mods while i'm away from the 'net for a few days, so try to keep this one going, eh? ;)

That does not mean I have to stick to my exact military.

Yes it does. you have a little Leway with some of the numbers; note - LITTLE Leway in that you can swap out the older stuff for the newer kit that you already have. anything else you have to buy ICly and cannot start with and since me, AB and Honoko have already bought Kampf's spare carriers you won't be getting any of those any time soon. so you need to design and build your own if you want one.

I haven't read the newest posts of this Earth or anything, but seeing as how it's open on the map and claims list, I would like to claim Algeria (6 points), Tunisia (3 points) and Malta (1 point) = 10 points.

hey Fut :) when you get confirmed hit me up a TG

Yes it does. you have a little Leway with some of the numbers; note - LITTLE Leway in that you can swap out the older stuff for the newer kit that you already have. anything else you have to buy ICly and cannot start with and since me, AB and Honoko have already bought Kampf's spare carriers you won't be getting any of those any time soon. so you need to design and build your own if you want one.

Okay, then my country has built a class of carrier similar to the Nimitz.

I haven't read the newest posts of this Earth or anything, but seeing as how it's open on the map and claims list, I would like to claim Algeria (6 points), Tunisia (3 points) and Malta (1 point) = 10 points.

I'll approve you. Welcome aboard.

Okay, then my country has built a class of carrier similar to the Nimitz.

No. You actually need to RP it's development and construction.

No. You actually need to RP it's development and construction.

Okay. I will do that, but it never said that in the rules. Also how do you know that I haven't been developing and constructing the carrier in the past four-six years?

I'll approve you. Welcome aboard.

Thanks - it feels good to be back in the familiar crowd of Earth-people. :p

I'll be making my factbook soon, and try to get acquainted with the political situation in the world.

Okay. I will do that, but it never said that in the rules. Also how do you know that I haven't been developing and constructing the carrier in the past four-six years?

Because that hasn't happened in RL life. Canada aren't making Nimitz class carriers (I haven't researched that, but I'm guessing they aren't :p). If we could all say we'd been creating great carriers for years, then I'm sure we'd all RPing us having militaries to rival the US. It'll take you a hell of a long while to make one similar from stratch yourself as well, so perhaps try something smaller, or buy any remaining older ones from the powers who currently have them.

Because that hasn't happened in RL life. Canada aren't making Nimitz class carriers (I haven't researched that, but I'm guessing they aren't :p). If we could all say we'd been creating great carriers for years, then I'm sure we'd all RPing us having militaries to rival the US. It'll take you a hell of a long while to make one similar from stratch yourself as well, so perhaps try something smaller, or buy any remaining older ones from the powers who currently have them.

But this isn't rl....

But this isn't rl....

And our Militaries are one of the few things that are to be kept similiar to their real-life counterparts. Does Canada have a Carrier in Real life, or even an LHD for that matter? No.

I wonder if I could take Australia.

I have 64 posts on this account, but I have 504 posts combined from all the incarnations I've gone through. If you folks don't want to accept that, that's fine; I'd rather not dredge up my past for examination—it's kind of embarrassing.

I'd like to take Trinidad and Tobago, and ST Lucia.

I wonder if I could take Australia.

I have 64 posts on this account, but I have 504 posts combined from all the incarnations I've gone through. If you folks don't want to accept that, that's fine; I'd rather not dredge up my past for examination—it's kind of embarrassing.

Australia already claimed.

Australia already claimed.

Oh. O_o It wasn't on the map.

Any Balkan nations claimed that aren't on the map?

I'd like to take Trinidad and Tobago, and ST Lucia.

just know that trinidad is my protectorate.

Alright then, The Virgin Isles.

Alfegos: You have enough posts for one point, please adjust your claim to reflect it, thanks!

Canadstein: It's an inferred rule that you develop military tech. While you have your NS past, you keep your Technology and military from what nation you claimed-meaning the same research level and current forces that you have. If you'd like, you can jump in with the nuclear carrier project I'm designing for the future for a price.

Jeuna: I counted it with someone else, so I'll count it with you, however, you'll need a different nation...big tracts of Africa open.

Canadstein: It's an inferred rule that you develop military tech. While you have your NS past, you keep your Technology and military from what nation you claimed-meaning the same research level and current forces that you have. If you'd like, you can jump in with the nuclear carrier project I'm designing for the future for a price.

Well I don't infer when I read the rules. I simply read them and try to abide by them. It doesn't say that we have develop military tech, that already exists, so I went ahead and performed my actions. Also can you tell me more about this carrier project?

map update requested :D

All right, cool.

I think I'd like Equatorial Guinea, Gabon and the Republic of the Congo, then.

All right, cool.

I think I'd like Equatorial Guinea, Gabon and the Republic of the Congo, then.

You only have one point. (0-100 posts)

See

Fine...he wins.

You only have one point. (0-100 posts)

See

Jeuna: I counted it with someone else, so I'll count it with you, however, you'll need a different nation...big tracts of Africa open.

Well I don't infer when I read the rules. I simply read them and try to abide by them. It doesn't say that we have develop military tech, that already exists, so I went ahead and performed my actions. Also can you tell me more about this carrier project?

It doesn't exist in Canada. Or, if it does, please show me.

Carrier on MSN, if you have that-I'm finsnumber13@hotmail.com.

Confirmed, Jeuna.

Confirmed, Jeuna.

You should go on MSN. I figured out the name for my Assault Rifle now. You'll love it.

I think what would be good is a disaster that destroys all the worlds oil. But if we are doing something else that is fine. everybody feel free to TG me or email me at: Bull_Horns_Rule@yahoo.com . Since the world is going to run out of oil i think we should simulate that here, BUT I am not a mod so... it is really not up to me.

Fine...he wins.

See

Time warp.

I think what would be good is a disaster that destroys all the worlds oil. But if we are doing something else that is fine. everybody feel free to TG me or email me at: Bull_Horns_Rule@yahoo.com . Since the world is going to run out of oil i think we should simulate that here, BUT I am not a mod so... it is really not up to me.

And what would go underground and destroy all of the worlds oil? An abrupt change with something like that would wipe out everyone, throwing us into a big stone age.

Abruptly destroying all oil would be...well, that'd kill off the Earth, simply.

And what would go underground and destroy all of the worlds oil? An abrupt change with something like that would wipe out everyone, throwing us into a big stone age.

YAY Stone age!

Abruptly destroying all oil would be...well, that'd kill off the Earth, simply.

Yeah I guess it would.

'Ello chaps.

So, I am finally back from my little vacation (seeing the girlfriend was nice), and then an 18-wheeler ran me off the road as I was coming home. I'm alright (minor concussion, small case of whiplash, jammed shoulder, the like), and I'll be at a computer for four days with nothing to do now.

So...

I've read over the thread, from what I've missed. I like the whole "invasion" idea (yes, I know it's not aliens), but we don't have to be PMT to fight these guys off, fellas. Anyone remember Independence Day? With Will Smith? They used MT (except for the alien spacecraft they captured, but we won't mention that).

Anyways... expect posting from me. And diplomatic stuff. And all around tom-foolery.

'Ello chaps.

So, I am finally back from my little vacation (seeing the girlfriend was nice), and then an 18-wheeler ran me off the road as I was coming home. I'm alright (minor concussion, small case of whiplash, jammed shoulder, the like), and I'll be at a computer for four days with nothing to do now.

Snip

Anyways... expect posting from me. And diplomatic stuff. And all around tom-foolery.

Cool. Remeber I am paying you now to wage war in your section of the world.

:D

Cool. Remeber I am paying you now to wage war in your section of the world.

:D

cool wasn't referring to the accident. Hope ya feel better.

No worries about the cool comment. I know you're just a cold hearted bastard. ;)

Are we going to discuss specifics in your factbook? Or someplace else?

Hell, forget Independence Day. The High Crusade is an even better example, rofl.

Ah, car accidents suck. Hope everything's cool, AD.

Ah, car accidents suck. Hope everything's cool, AD.

I get off work for four days straight... after having a weekend... so almost a full week off... yeah, that's cool with me. lol

No worries about the cool comment. I know you're just a cold hearted bastard. ;)

Are we going to discuss specifics in your factbook? Or someplace else?

LOL

Eh, AB can probably fill you in if you have MSN or if he has aim. If not hit up one of our factbooks.

Well, he needs to get online so I can send him an AIM message, lol

Check your TGs, AD.

Oh, and just for all future references (I will add it into my fact book) I claim soverignty over the entire straight of Gibralter. AKA military ships passing through without my permission is an act of war. I will bbl

Checked. I'll reply in a few.

Now responded.

Not a lot of activity on a monday. Hmm...

Ya, Getting kinda slow. We should have that Suspence RP now....

I'm around... Dwel, I responded to your request in my Factbook

well things should heat up when Fut responds to my TG *grins in Glee*

3 posts. Thats it? I just got done with a ton of field work and 3 posts! I must be the only one with no life.

3 posts. Thats it? I just got done with a ton of field work and 3 posts! I must be the only one with no life.

I've been busy :P

I've been posting elsewhere, lol. I've been getting ready for a few operations.

Also, anyone want to play the Palestinian territories and Lebanon? I need to annex some more land.

Well guys I probably won't be on until 8:30 EST because i have to help my parents(I live on a dairy farm, organic milk is inhumane to cows, if the are sick they can't recive even antibiotics, antibiotic milk is dumped at processing plants. BST(artificial hormones) is inhumane)

Oh, and just for all future references (I will add it into my fact book) I claim soverignty over the entire straight of Gibralter. AKA military ships passing through without my permission is an act of war. I will bbl

Umm...no. There is no way you could do it. RL territorial waters (http://www.gibnet.com/fish/waters.gif) of the Strait. There is no way at all that you can do that. Those people that hold Spain and Morocco (Willink and me) have control and sovereignty of the Strait. If anything, either or both of us could extend our claims completely around the waters of Gibralter.

There is physically and geographically no way for you to do this.

Go to war over it, see who wins, lol.

Is H-Town Tejas and Franberry active?

Is H-Town Tejas and Franberry active?

Franberry should be back pretty soon, he was in South Africa.

H-Town, I don't think so.

Thoughts out to the family of Bill Walsh, who died today...49ers legendary coach.

Moving on, Candistan, Kamp, and I are launching wargames in the Black Sea per Candistan's request (need to see you on MSN, Kamp). In addition, I'm about to invade North Korea (Attention Animarnia and Candistan), which'll need an NPC guy to play 'em.

We can launch the RP whenever.

Umm...no. There is no way you could do it. RL territorial waters (http://www.gibnet.com/fish/waters.gif) of the Strait. There is no way at all that you can do that. Those people that hold Spain and Morocco (Willink and me) have control and sovereignty of the Strait. If anything, either or both of us could extend our claims completely around the waters of Gibralter.

There is physically and geographically no way for you to do this.

Where theres a First World Country VS a Third World country theres always a way.

And to be honest, I will just extend my territorial waters to encompass the whole strait. Britian hold no parlimentary (horrible) troops, so I'm not exactly worried about a war.

H-Town, I don't think so.

Thoughts out to the family of Bill Walsh, who died today...49ers legendary coach.

Moving on, Candistan, Kamp, and I are launching wargames in the Black Sea per Candistan's request (need to see you on MSN, Kamp). In addition, I'm about to invade North Korea (Attention Animarnia and Candistan), which'll need an NPC guy to play 'em.

We can launch the RP whenever.

Okay; I'll start mobalising troops into position...good job I spent today structing the army properly in my spreadsheet to make it more efficent. so the army gets the best stuff the rest goes into the national guard...both will probably be called up to Smite down NK.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12922107#post12922107

We need someone to Rp Cyprus.

Okay; I'll start mobalising troops into position...good job I spent today structing the army properly in my spreadsheet to make it more efficent. so the army gets the best stuff the rest goes into the national guard...both will probably be called up to Smite down NK.

The North should be pretty clear; I'm gonna hit the majority of the troops in the Southern border.

Once we finish up here, we can begin moving on your side of the deal-Taiwan. They're part of China soon enough :P I hold to my deals.

I can do Cyprus for ya'll.

Of course, I need access through the Bosporous to the Black Sea for the games Candistan has planned...*whistles innocently*

The NPO inside the Mediteranean sea.. That probably isn't a brilliant idea. AB, who are on the 'inactives' list?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12922107#post12922107

We need someone to Rp Cyprus.

I can do Cyprus for ya'll.

Of course, I need access through the Bosporous to the Black Sea for the games Candistan has planned...*whistles innocently*

I can do Cyprus for ya'll.

Of course, I need access through the Bosporous to the Black Sea for the games Candistan has planned...*whistles innocently*

....Free Passage to all threatening warships? Yeah sure it's open to all ships on any foreign government's private dealings.

AB check your factbook I requested a carrier to be built.

The North should be pretty clear; I'm gonna hit the majority of the troops in the Southern border.

Once we finish up here, we can begin moving on your side of the deal-Taiwan. They're part of China soon enough :P I hold to my deals.

I'm planning on pushing in from the North at 3 points;.. at the moment I'm just looking at Maps of NK and China to see the best plan of attack

AB I need to speak with you over MSN.

I don't think Franberry is active eather. He hasnt posted.

Your carrier can be built, Waldenburg. It'll be built in the Southern ports to avoid possible war effects...

Animarnia: Sounds good, Candistan's gonna hit the East. You two should have pretty easy pickings.

Where theres a First World Country VS a Third World country theres always a way.

And to be honest, I will just extend my territorial waters to encompass the whole strait. Britian hold no parlimentary (horrible) troops, so I'm not exactly worried about a war.


Um, I am hardly a "third world country". If you do such, it is a direct violation of the Treaty of Utrecht, an illegal seizure of the Empires waters, and you can be very sure to expect a response from my nation.

Animarnia: Sounds good, Candistan's gonna hit the East. You two should have pretty easy pickings.

Ya :) Going to be hitting them hard; I almost feel sorry for them...almost

Ya :) Going to be hitting them hard; I almost feel sorry for them...almost

Wait 'till you see what will happen after we have Kim...

Ya :) Going to be hitting them hard; I almost feel sorry for them...almost

Yeah, but it's worth it :P

Ok people, PLEASE vote in the United Nations. Brussels is the new capital, and it's basically in session now - anyone who has a resolution to put forward, anyone who is planning an invasion, or doing something controversial, please say in there so we can all debate it...and start using those VETO's. The UNSC still hasn't been completed - though the current outlook is that Wanderjar is certain, and the others are still quite divided.

wrong thread. lol

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533945 - oh and here is the thread (I've just noticed that Rome and Brussels are tied...oh well, Brussels it is! :p I never said it would be democratic voting..)

Kampf Check your Fact.

NK is up, need an NPC for NK:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12922382#post12922382

DP, I was looking at a couple of those ships you wanted, and a lot of them seemed to have gone to Turkey and been "struck" and 'Disposed of through the Security Assistance Program (SAP)'. I say a lot, I looked at two, though I'd bet on it theres more.

DP, I was looking at a couple of those ships you wanted, and a lot of them seemed to have gone to Turkey and been "struck" and 'Disposed of through the Security Assistance Program (SAP)'. I say a lot, I looked at two, though I'd bet on it theres more.

Which ones?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533945 - oh and here is the thread (I've just noticed that Rome and Brussels are tied...oh well, Brussels it is! :p I never said it would be democratic voting..)

Boo! I vote Rome!

The first two I checked.

kk, thanks

Which ones?

The first two I checked.

Um, I am hardly a "third world country". If you do such, it is a direct violation of the Treaty of Utrecht, an illegal seizure of the Empires waters, and you can be very sure to expect a response from my nation.


Lol. This is NS remember? Normally if I was on an off-site earth I'd respect all the treaties including the Law of Sea. This little scenario will likely work to my advantage no matter how any of us look at it.

And on the note of 'third world country' I was talking about the dude with Moracco(Wrong spelling).

Lol. This is NS remember? Normally if I was on an off-site earth I'd respect all the treaties including the Law of Sea. This little scenario will likely work to my advantage no matter how any of us look at it.


Do you even know what your doing? Regardless if you declare control of the straight, the entrance on both sides is controlled by myself and Hamp. And regardless of it is NS or not, your still very much violating my sovereignty by claiming some 25% of territorial waters.

Do you even know what your doing? Regardless if you declare control of the straight, the entrance on both sides is controlled by myself and Hamp. And regardless of it is NS or not, your still very much violating my sovereignty by claiming some 25% of territorial waters.

Of course, I know what I am doing. I am pretty much denouncing your claims anywhere near the strait of Gibralter and essentially provoking you. Gotta bring the tension in Europe somehow.

Canadstein, Drosk, West Pacific, Cour, and Silver Sky you all have TGs.

Of course, I know what I am doing. I am pretty much denouncing your claims anywhere near the strait of Gibralter and essentially provoking you. Gotta bring the tension in Europe somehow.

Canadstein, Drosk, West Pacific, Cour, and Silver Sky you all have TGs.

Which everyone will see is a pointless declaration because you can't actually do anything to inforce it.

Which everyone will see is a pointless declaration because you can't actually do anything to inforce it.

We'll see, won't we?

You're digging your own grave.

Good thing I have a big shovel.

We'll see, won't we?

You're digging your own grave.

You're digging your own grave.

The prophet hath spoken.

I don't think Franberry is active eather. He hasnt posted.

Did you read Hamp's post? Franberry is in South Africa and has extremely limited internet access, he was in AWOP and wanted his old claim when I was speaking to him on MSN the one time he did sign on.

Did you read Hamp's post? Franberry is in South Africa and has extremely limited internet access, he was in AWOP and wanted his old claim when I was speaking to him on MSN the one time he did sign on.

oh, ok

What's happening in Cyprus? I don't know whether I should support it because Waldenburg is getting involved, or go against it because a nation outside Europe is...can someone involved explain it all to me.

What's happening in Cyprus? I don't know whether I should support it because Waldenburg is getting involved, or go against it because a nation outside Europe is...can someone involved explain it all to me.

Well provided it's generally Rl details with Cyprus then for the last three decades there has been a struggle between Greek Cypriots, and Turk Cypriots,going something along the lines of who should have power, since I'm both I offer union. Ambrose Douglas is there immediately if they say no. If we do get Cyprus via diplomatic or military means he will be taking possession of the Rl British Military Bases, I'll be in the Union with about 95% of the population so it's Waldenburg's operation.

Roughly started the Hurtian Civil war
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534295

Not quite "IC ready" though

Animarnia, Kampf, Carloginias, Honako, Candistan, and Amazonian Beasts check your telegrams.

Jesus tapdancing Christ... TG enough people did we? lol

Jesus tapdancing Christ... TG enough people did we? lol

Yep :)

I never get TGed. It makes me feel sad.

btw, Not counting the day we started, it is November. Not October.

I updated it to October yesterday.

DP: Fine by me, though you'll have to probaly get fine from either Candistan or Kamp to ensure things between the Order.

Carlo: If you try to stop my guys from entering the Mediterranean, I will tatoo your forces, and then go with the order to make a northern French sea. Just a word of warning...

Regarding Fran, he's ok for now, since technically it's not AWOL, he's just unable to reach a comp.

Carlo: If you try to stop my guys from entering the Mediterranean, I will tatoo your forces, and then go with the order to make a northern French sea. Just a word of warning...

YOU will tatoo his forces? I will freaking destroy his whole navy!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534241 Still needing a response from Cyprus.

YOU will tatoo his forces? I will freaking destroy his whole navy!


World War III.

I'm pretty much guessing your ignoring my telegram Kampf.

I'm pretty much guessing your ignoring my telegram Kampf.

oh, I was waiting for Candistan to respond, but if it's fine with him and AB it's fine with me.

World War III.

Not exactly, but w/e.

Amazonian Beasts:

Can you add my thread to the front page?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534099

oh, I was waiting for Candistan to respond, but if it's fine with him and AB it's fine with me.

kk, thanks!

Eye to Eye, Peru Takeover (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12925426#post12925426)

Need someone to RP Peru.

I just wrote so much BS for that. Oh well.

I just wrote so much BS for that. Oh well.

haha, lol

Yes, because all nations automatically want to join with each other!

Yes, because all nations automatically want to join with each other!

Exactly! Thats the Spirit!!

Put a gun to their head.
*Gunshots in background.*
"Where do we sign?"

Exactly! Thats the Spirit!!

Enjoy your AIDS! Rather..

Enjoy your insurgency!

Enjoy your AIDS! Rather..

Enjoy your insurgency!

Its Peru.... Not the middle east...... There may be a insurgency, but it just won't be as strong than over there.

HMM... When will a massive war break out... I am bored...

I never get TGed. It makes me feel sad.

you need to check you have a TG from me :rolleyes:

Its Peru.... Not the middle east...... There may be a insurgency, but it just won't be as strong than over there.

"Oh, it's not the Middle East so there will be no insurgency."

Xinjiang, Chechnya, Ireland, Yugoslavia, Red Army Faction in Germany, Thailand and other S.E.Asian countries,

"Oh, it's not the Middle East so there will be no insurgency."

Xinjiang, Chechnya, Ireland, Yugoslavia, Red Army Faction in Germany, Thailand and other S.E.Asian countries,

Uhhh I didnt say no insurgency. read the post.....

HMM... When will a massive war break out... I am bored...

Well we're ...Liberating North Korea at the moment..yes Liberating...>_> depending on when Fut gets on there might be things happening in your neck of the woods soon enough.

Uhhh I didnt say no insurgency. read the post.....

I did read the post, to paraphrase it you said that "since it's not the middle east, the insurgency won't be bad."

In my post, I indicated nations that are not in the Middle East with insurgencies that I'd say are pretty bad.

OMG PANIC! GET INTO THE PORTABLE PANIC BUNKER!
Yeah like what?