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Ri-an
27-09-2006, 22:26
Blacky, check your tg's. We may have to do it anyways since this war's gotten more confusing then Florida election Ballots, or, listening to George speak (The president).
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 22:28
-Chuckles-

"So, Trans..did you recieve my message? Oh. And...err..we need to make a 'Comedy Group' thread for us comedians."

Yes and no about the 'Comedy Group' thread.

And you know what, for all of this Dominion stuff. I thought up ‘The Dominion Commonwealth’. It would be like Kraven but without slave states or any of those other nation that rule over other nation. What do y‘all think? So…I get some nation that I could boss around and fight for.

@Jenrak: My life is school and home, add in NS and that is all I do.
Dephire
27-09-2006, 22:31
-Sips some cold beer-

"Aye. Now let those mongruels pay!"
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 22:35
I want a real reply to my nuke attack, Blackhelm.
Clandonia Prime
27-09-2006, 22:36
I want a real reply to my nuke attack, Blackhelm.

I want you too..... He needs some teaching.
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 22:37
Kraven’s a Dominion?!? Dude, that something new to me. He is my own real enemy.

No, no Kraven Dominion...

What I meant was that I would doubt my soldiers ability in close combat with a Sardaukar.
Dephire
27-09-2006, 22:37
Thank you for sending the message, Transylvania. Hopefully it won't be turned down...heh. Geeze..got enough people in your Gholgoth army?! 3 Billion! Hot damn!!
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 22:39
Thank you for sending the message, Transylvania. Hopefully it won't be turned down...heh. Geeze..got enough people in your Gholgoth army?! 3 Billion! Hot damn!!

I'd fight 'em!

Just not win...
Dephire
27-09-2006, 22:43
I'd fight 'em!

Just not win...


Trust me...don't. They overwhelmed my small army of roughly 250,000 men in less than twelve hours...of course that was because it was multiple enemies at multiple fronts and I didn't get my damn ships in...even with the Dominators I wouldn't stand..Well, I would of lasted alot longer if my Decimator was out of development..
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 22:45
No, no Kraven Dominion...

Ah…

What I meant was that I would doubt my soldiers ability in close combat with a Sardaukar.

I got a few that could handle a Sardaukar in close combat. Reaper (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Reaper.jpg), Trevor (http://img210.echo.cx/img210/1180/trevor6lb.jpg), JWolf. All soldiers in some way but all mutants in thier own way.

@Dephire: You’re welcome. And it is HOT DAMN. Think if we used 10%, that’s a large army. *Smiles, fangs showing*
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 22:45
Trust me...don't. They overwhelmed my small army of roughly 250,000 men in less than twelve hours...of course that was because it was multiple enemies at multiple fronts and I didn't get my damn ships in...even with the Dominators I wouldn't stand..Well, I would of lasted alot longer if my Decimator was out of development..

Any invasion of me would be an absolute b*tch, and my overseas force of thirty-two million, however small that is compared to them, would not back down.

I have no reason to fight the most powerful consortium of nations in the world, besides that.
Dephire
27-09-2006, 22:50
Any invasion of me would be an absolute b*tch, and my overseas force of thirty-two million, however small that is compared to them, would not back down.

I have no reason to fight the most powerful consortium of nations in the world, besides that.

@Pudu: As would mine, but now Vega is in charge so...
@Trans: I've got roughly fifty million spread all over the place. This is total Army and Airforce Personel. My Navy is just too large to fully count..considering that Dephire had taken over another nation...of course that nation never came back because they couldn't believe the fact that I actually beat them..but oh well.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 22:55
@Trans: I've got roughly fifty million spread all over the place. This is total Army and Airforce Personel. My Navy is just too large to fully count..considering that Dephire had taken over another nation...of course that nation never came back because they couldn't believe the fact that I actually beat them..but oh well.

LOL. I like the last part. Guys, should I create 'The Dominion Commonwealth'?
Dephire
27-09-2006, 22:58
As a new region or a new nation? @.@

-Chuckles-

That's how I have such a large armada. It may be costly, but those damn Los Mexicans are quite helpful...even though Dephire is primarily self-efficient.
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 23:02
That's another factor in my own strength. I've captured, in its entirety, a large indutrialized nation, and now half of one similarly developed.

As well as a few useless colonies...
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 23:04
As a new region or a new nation? @.@

More like the Commonwealth of nations in RL. Meaning should I formed it? Who you think would join it?
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:05
That's another factor in my own strength. I've captured, in its entirety, a large indutrialized nation, and now half of one similarly developed.

As well as a few useless colonies...

-Chuckles-

"I love what I used to do before this whole GASN thing.
Conquered Nations:

Los Mexico
Outer Rim (Rped)
Portions of Sochatopia...(We never had a discussion about that..we just kinda drifted away...)
I think some other place...
Oh.
Four Corners.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 23:06
That's another factor in my own strength. I've captured, in its entirety, a large indutrialized nation, and now half of one similarly developed.

As well as a few useless colonies...

I already have a few captured nations, the Dominionite Protectorate of Sanduras & the Dominionite Protectorate of Rith-naar & the Dominionite Protectorate of Kologk.
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:09
-Nods-

"I feel as if I may be more welcome in a different alliance than the one I am in right now. This is because I am restricted to being a goody-goody. There is no fun. Supposed to be no war unless defending yourself or another nation. Which completely blows. I can't excercise my full military power. I can't even test nukes or have nukes. GRR! And I can't even design something close to the Mammoth MK II!!! ARGH!!!"
Errikland
27-09-2006, 23:09
-Chuckles-

"I love what I used to do before this whole GASN thing.
Conquered Nations:

Los Mexico
Outer Rim (Rped)
Portions of Sochatopia...(We never had a discussion about that..we just kinda drifted away...)
I think some other place...
Oh.
Four Corners.

Do you have maps or other info about these nations?
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:09
Do you have maps or other info about these nations?

To get that I would have to go into a really big archive man...I mean a really big archive!
Errikland
27-09-2006, 23:14
To get that I would have to go into a really big archive man...I mean a really big archive!

Not necessarily. I have a good amount of BG info on my two protectorates (though not maps).
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:17
-Nods-

"I feel as if I may be more welcome in a different alliance than the one I am in right now. This is because I am restricted to being a goody-goody. There is no fun. Supposed to be no war unless defending yourself or another nation. Which completely blows. I can't excercise my full military power. I can't even test nukes or have nukes. GRR! And I can't even design something close to the Mammoth MK II!!! ARGH!!!"

I love repeating myself...
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-09-2006, 23:18
Err you used chemical tipped scuds as well, idiot.

You said I nuked you for no reason. I was unaware a chemical tipped SCUD was a nuclear weapon.

Tocrowkia. That was a real response. I shot them down before they did damage.
Ri-an
27-09-2006, 23:18
-Nods-

"I feel as if I may be more welcome in a different alliance than the one I am in right now. This is because I am restricted to being a goody-goody. There is no fun. Supposed to be no war unless defending yourself or another nation. Which completely blows. I can't excercise my full military power. I can't even test nukes or have nukes. GRR! And I can't even design something close to the Mammoth MK II!!! ARGH!!!"

What about an Alliance designed to be agressive, good or bad? I'm not saying I can help you, but, I know of certain parties who read comb the forumns looking for people they feel can handle a secret, and RP well.
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:21
What about an Alliance designed to be agressive, good or bad? I'm not saying I can help you, but, I know of certain parties who read comb the forumns looking for people they feel can handle a secret, and RP well.

I have created the Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations, but it never really sparked. Gholgoth was given a proposal by me as a means to ask if it was alright with them if I maybe...became an affiliate..

Ohter than that..I'm just keeping low.
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 23:22
To my knowledge the CA doesn't mind you invading people...
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:24
Hmm. I will think about it.
Ri-an
27-09-2006, 23:24
I have created the Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations, but it never really sparked. Gholgoth was given a proposal by me as a means to ask if it was alright with them if I maybe...became an affiliate..

Ohter than that..I'm just keeping low.

You may or may not get a Telegram from someone I know. Depends on hiow he, (she?) feels.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 23:27
You may or may not get a Telegram from someone I know. Depends on how he, (she?) feels.

How are you talking about?
Ri-an
27-09-2006, 23:30
How are you talking about?

Its a secret.
TheBlackLotusSociety
27-09-2006, 23:32
Its a secret.

He means me.
The Infinite Crucible
27-09-2006, 23:33
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11740273#post11740273

This is my invasion thread in case anyone cares.

Also, as attackers we should make a quick summary thread that we can all consult so we dont overlap. Just post where you are going with how much etc. What do you guys think?
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 23:35
More like the Commonwealth of nations in RL. Meaning should I formed it? Who you think would join it?

What would it be? I'm pretty lost on the idea here...
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:35
I really don't know though...It would be downsizing from a leader just under me to someone that has just begun...
TheBlackLotusSociety
27-09-2006, 23:38
I have created the Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations, but it never really sparked. Gholgoth was given a proposal by me as a means to ask if it was alright with them if I maybe...became an affiliate..

Ohter than that..I'm just keeping low.

I know of what Ri-an spoke. And yes, I run an Alliance. I bet you haven't heard of us though. That's a good thing. DT has seen my nation side, for RPing, but, few have seen The Secret Alliance of The Black Lotus Society.

Just clarifying what was being spoken of. If you really want an active agressive alliance, then my Associates and I would be happy to discuss terms of Membership with you.
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 23:38
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11740273#post11740273

This is my invasion thread in case anyone cares.

Also, as attackers we should make a quick summary thread that we can all consult so we dont overlap. Just post where you are going with how much etc. What do you guys think?

That would also make it easier for us defenders.
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:40
TG me the entire statistics of your "alliance". I would seriously hate to drop from five million guns to five thousand.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 23:45
He means me.

Oh...
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 23:47
What would it be? I'm pretty lost on the idea here...

More like a nicer version of the Kraven Corp. and his slave states. Meaning I'm in control but you can do what every you want with your own nation. I posted it on the II, check it out.
Dephire
27-09-2006, 23:53
Finally! Haraki is on! Confused about his post on the Gholgoth Region's Boards, but he's on! WOOT!
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 00:06
You said I nuked you for no reason. I was unaware a chemical tipped SCUD was a nuclear weapon.

Tocrowkia. That was a real response. I shot them down before they did damage.

That's impossible. They were going at Mach 30+. Maybe Rosdivan is right about you.
Dephire
28-09-2006, 01:16
Could of still been destroyed by an Anti-Air laser..but no one cares for my tech.
Emporer Pudu
28-09-2006, 01:54
WANDERJAR!

I am sinking your fleet that's showing up to the World Soviet Party. I have more than four hundred combat ships spread out, doing nothing but sitting there, waiting.

So... then you showed up and we're attacking you.
Dephire
28-09-2006, 01:59
WANDERJAR!

I am sinking your fleet that's showing up to the World Soviet Party. I have more than four hundred combat ships spread out, doing nothing but sitting there, waiting.

So... then you showed up and we're attacking you.

-Shrugs-

I tried warning him, but he didn't listen!
Wanderjar
28-09-2006, 02:00
-Shrugs-

I tried warning him, but he didn't listen!

Actually I said they were coming, but I didn't want them to arrive yet. Oh well. I'd wanted them to arrive later.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:01
Could of still been destroyed by an Anti-Air laser..but no one cares for my tech.

No. It takes a while for a laser to destroy anything. And stop giving him ideas. And lasers are hardly "Your tech". Please, do some research before you claim ownership of something that is not yours.

Blackhelm, stop god modding and accept my nuke attack.
Dephire
28-09-2006, 02:03
No. It takes a while for a laser to destroy anything. And stop giving him ideas.

Blackhelm, stop god modding and accept my nuke attack.

What about an EMP laser? (Oh, and If Blackhelm does try using these suggestions, I will sue him.)
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:04
What about an EMP laser? (Oh, and If Blackhelm does try using these suggestions, I will sue him.)

...Explain how that works, because I believe that's impossible...
Wanderjar
28-09-2006, 02:05
Thanks for the Dominator Cannon reminder. I forgot I had them and could use 'em. But I'll respect that you want me to cease fire temporarily. But if he doesn't.......he's gonna have 12 of those bastards all over him.
The Infinite Crucible
28-09-2006, 02:07
Being as we have made the shift into PMT in many aspects, lasers could be used as a viable anti missile source. With an increase in power output possibilities within the next 50 years I dont see why not.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:09
Being as we have made the shift into PMT in many aspects, lasers could be used as a viable anti missile source. With an increase in power output possibilities within the next 50 years I dont see why not.

EMP Lasers are still impossible to do. So, no.


Before the War had even started, just when TPF and GC were becoming Rivals, TPF had moved into postion, Space sats that could easily destroy large amound of nuclear weapons. Soon, the 15 cruise missiles were dectected, And 15 Sats powered up their lasers and fired. The High Command had not wanted to go aginst their allies, but nuclear attacks were forbidden unless the enemy attacked first.

I didn't fire cruise missiles. I fired MIRVs, 30 of them. Ignored. Try again.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:10
OCC: Lasers are not PMT, we had workable lasers in the 80's and according to general rule of thumb, Ns is 15 years into the future, and Boeing is testing its COIL next year combined that with overinflated Defense budgets, lasers are common in NS MT
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:11
EMP Lasers are still impossible to do. So, no.



I didn't fire cruise missiles. I fired MIRVs, 30 of them. Ignored. Try again.

I cancled that anyway.
The Infinite Crucible
28-09-2006, 02:11
EMP Lasers are still impossible to do. So, no.


I mean regular lasers. While they wont be on tanks or anything like that, large ships and possibly even Super Heavy Tanks will have them..
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:11
No EMP Lasers

Not only is it impossible, it's just stupid.
Emporer Pudu
28-09-2006, 02:12
Actually I said they were coming, but I didn't want them to arrive yet. Oh well. I'd wanted them to arrive later.

I'll edit it if you want to not get own'd for a little while longer...
The Infinite Crucible
28-09-2006, 02:14
OCC: Lasers are not PMT, we had workable lasers in the 80's and according to general rule of thumb, Ns is 15 years into the future, and Boeing is testing its COIL next year combined that with overinflated Defense budgets, lasers are common in NS MT

That too, lasers are a fine and totally legal mode of anti missile warfare. You just need to be a little creative to counter them.
The Infinite Crucible
28-09-2006, 02:15
No EMP Lasers

Not only is it impossible, it's just stupid.

We are not arguing for EMP lasers... or at least I am not.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:15
Considering the MIRVs were going at Mach 30+, and the time it takes to nail a missile with a laser, it wouldn't help. No, not in the least.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:16
Considering the MIRVs were going at Mach 30+, and the time it takes to nail a missile with a laser, it wouldn't help. No, not in the least.

It doesnt matter how fast they were going, and how the hell do you go mach30+ in MT, the MAXIUM ive ever seen is Mach 15+ and people were bitching about that.
Dephire
28-09-2006, 02:16
All the basics of an EMP are to send out a strong enough electric wave of energy that will disrupt any electronic systems in an area. So basically, you can condense this wave into a beam, or laser as some people call them.
Deserted Territories
28-09-2006, 02:17
Tocrowika, you rped blowing my bombs out of the air with lasers like it was nothing-doing, and they were being propelled downwards for over 500 miles! If you can laser that, he can laser you.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:19
It doesnt matter how fast they were going, and how the hell do you go mach30+ in MT, the MAXIUM ive ever seen is Mach 15+ and people were bitching about that.

Yes, it certainly does matter. And considering the missile accelerated them all the way down to the stratosphere, it's perfectly reasonable for them to be going that fast.

All the basics of an EMP are to send out a strong enough electric wave of energy that will disrupt any electronic systems in an area. So basically, you can condense this wave into a beam, or laser as some people call them.

No. Everybody on the Draftroom even agrees with me. EMP lasers are impossible.

Tocrowika, you rped blowing my bombs out of the air with lasers like it was nothing-doing, and they were being propelled downwards for over 500 miles! If you can laser that, he can laser you.

There's a difference between a bomb and a MIRV.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:20
Yes, it certainly does matter. And considering the missile accelerated them all the way down to the stratosphere, it's perfectly reasonable for them to be going that fast.



No. Everybody on the Draftroom even agrees with me. EMP lasers are impossible.

Okay, Cruise missiles dont go up into space and back down buddy.
Dephire
28-09-2006, 02:20
How are they impossible? Take an Ion Particle Cannon for example, It's not impossible to create one of those, yet that's basically an EMP Laser!
Deserted Territories
28-09-2006, 02:20
EMP Lasers does sound pretty sketchy.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:21
Okay, Cruise missiles dont go up into space and back down buddy.

They were not cruise missiles, and they were launched from an Orbital Weapons Platform, buddy. :)

All of you should learn at least the basics of certain military tech. It would make it less of a head ache RPing with the lot of you.
The Infinite Crucible
28-09-2006, 02:22
How are they impossible? Take an Ion Particle Cannon for example, It's not impossible to create one of those, yet that's basically an EMP Laser!

Ion cannons... actually they are impossible. Ions are charged particles, and charged particles repel each other. The beam would dissapate very quickly.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:23
They were not cruise missiles, and they were launched from an Orbital Weapons Platform, buddy. :)

All of you should learn at least the basics of certain military tech. It would make it less of a head ache RPing with the lot of you.

I RP with you, and I thought you launched from a sub, now I could be wrong, and Im sorry for that, but even so please call them ICBM's so we dont get confused. And I know my military tech. I just got the post wrong. A mistake on my part
Dephire
28-09-2006, 02:24
Ion cannons... actually they are impossible. Ions are charged particles, and charged particles repel each other. The beam would dissapate very quickly.

I looked it up in Wiki and some other science books. All that you have to do is reverse the polarity of the target...
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:25
They're is a very big differnce between a ICBM and a Cruise Missile. Nothing you were saying is possible with a Crusier, but most of the
stuff is with an ICBM
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:26
They're is a very big differnce between a ICBM and a Cruise Missile. Nothing you were saying is possible with a Crusier, but most of the
stuff is with an ICBM

I never said "Cruise Missile". :rolleyes:
Deserted Territories
28-09-2006, 02:26
I thought the missle fired at Paradise city was from a bomber, Tocrowika.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:27
I thought the missle fired at Paradise city was from a bomber, Tocrowika.

The first one, yes.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:28
I never said "Cruise Missile". :rolleyes:

xD you have been is your previous posts! Its all good now however
The Infinite Crucible
28-09-2006, 02:28
I looked it up in Wiki and some other science books. All that you have to do is reverse the polarity of the target...

Hmm, that could work but would it really be workable at any range, as the forces between the tightly packed ions in the beam would surely be greater than their attraction to some far off polarized target. Although, I will look into it.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:29
xD you have been is your previous posts!

xD The one from the bomber!

*Sigh*
This is what I get for working with the inexperienced.
Deserted Territories
28-09-2006, 02:29
Mabey this would be simpler if we anchored everything into a very standard MT.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:30
Im not inexperienced. Dont OCC'ly insult me. Ive been very polite and respectful during this, I expect the same.

DT: Most of us dont do standard MT, the best we can do is compromise.
Dephire
28-09-2006, 02:34
I guess I'm a PMT guy...considering...

-Reflects back to the DCRC and DCRC II.-
Deserted Territories
28-09-2006, 02:34
The problem therin being MT nations always end up with the short end of the stick. PLus, the MT, PMT thing is like a room full of people. One guy talks a little louder to be heard, and everyone else has to talk louder to hear over him. This keeps going on untill its a deafening roar. Right now, a few people are moving to PMT to win, but others will just pul up with them and the next thing you know well be fighting in spaceships.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 02:35
Even so, I'm beginning to grow weary of you constantly trying to tell me how to run my own military and trying to dictate the tactics I use
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:37
The problem therin being MT nations always end up with the short end of the stick. PLus, the MT, PMT thing is like a room full of people. One guy talks a little louder to be heard, and everyone else has to talk louder to hear over him. This keeps going on untill its a deafening roar. Right now, a few people are moving to PMT to win, but others will just pul up with them and the next thing you know well be fighting in spaceships.

If It gets to that I'm gone. Plus the MT-PMT border is poorly defined and one man might say that is PMT and another might say that's MT
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 02:39
next thing you know well be fighting in spaceships.

Then I can use my Dark matter railguns! And, And, my Space Ecosystem! and, and, I can use Darkmatter Shields, and other special weapons!
Deserted Territories
28-09-2006, 02:40
Even so, I'm beginning to grow weary of you constantly trying to tell me how to run my own military and trying to dictate the tactics I use

The only part of how you run your military that I disprove of is your leanent use of nuclear arms. And I have yet to order you to stop.
The Infinite Crucible
28-09-2006, 02:41
Mabey this would be simpler if we anchored everything into a very standard MT.

A bit late for that.
Dephire
28-09-2006, 02:43
I think that we should be at least PMT because of our nations being more advanced than that of RL MT. I mean, no real life nation can sustain over eight billion people! Can it?
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:46
I think that we should be at least PMT because of our nations being more advanced than that of RL MT. I mean, no real life nation can sustain over eight billion people! Can it?

Thats why we have massive militaries, lasers, tanks with CWIS etc. You can be PMT, But unless you fairly RP it with an MT nation, then I won't play.
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 02:46
I think that we should be at least PMT because of our nations being more advanced than that of RL MT. I mean, no real life nation can sustain over eight billion people! Can it?

I explain it with three things:

Being FT.

Having a world substantially larger than RL Earth.

Having Magic as a part of my nation.

I find I don't worry about explainations then.
Deserted Territories
28-09-2006, 02:47
I think that we should be at least PMT because of our nations being more advanced than that of RL MT. I mean, no real life nation can sustain over eight billion people! Can it?

Probably not, but as far as DT is concerned, the Spruce Goose is still the largest plane to ever fly, America's still fat, and there is no such thing as orbitaly-launched WMD (that we know of).

And with that i must depart.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 02:47
When Mt hits PMT is when:
You have to start "making" up the tech to make a weapon.
Jenrak
28-09-2006, 03:58
What's going on? I want to laugh.
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 04:18
What's going on? I want to laugh.

We're inventing new ways to irritate and generally annoy each other in legit non-bannable or Deatable ways.

At least that's what it looks like from my perspective.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-09-2006, 04:52
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11740273#post11740273

This is my invasion thread in case anyone cares.

Also, as attackers we should make a quick summary thread that we can all consult so we dont overlap. Just post where you are going with how much etc. What do you guys think?

I agree (and even TGed BC earlier about it, he agrees)

My end of the war is coved in the large link you can find on my sig.

Sub-dividing the war prevents the RP from getting too confusing (and keeps events from other countries from looing as random and pointless as they do now)

Now we just need everyone else not only to agree, but to comply...

The following is a suggestion:
Any further actions against CA that are not qoutes (or quoted on) from their own war against CA thread shall be ignored.

All further attacks on CA or from CA theat not posted or quoted on the defender's war thread shall also be ignored.

[Pulls out sawed-off double-barreled IGNORE cannon]
And to add mass to that:
[Pulls out IP adresses and phone book, then starts tracing users to their homes]
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 05:07
These are my actions:

I nuked Paradise City

I also split my fleet into three echelons, the first consisting of my heavy ships. Destroyers, Battleships, SDs and SCs, and the other two consisting of frigates and cruisers. 2nd and 3rd are flanking him, while the 1st is approaching him directly.
Tyrandis
28-09-2006, 05:32
OOC: Toc - respond to your embassy thread plz, I need to have the diplomatic mission set up before I can rebase my bombers.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 05:43
I will have to detail for you how I stopped your nukes, as you seem to be hell bent on using the coward devices.

Out of 30 missiles, I downed half with SDI (as I have heard it has a 50% effectiveness). Then, I have 700 AAD-1 balloons in the sky above the capital. As the nuke was coming into earth each one loosed 18 missiles, spamming the air. With that amount of missiles, at least one of the weapons will be hit. When that one blows up, the massive blast will also detonate the others, high, high up above the city.

Happy?
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 05:47
I will have to detail for you how I stopped your nukes, as you seem to be hell bent on using the coward devices.

Out of 30 missiles, I downed half with SDI (as I have heard it has a 50% effectiveness). Then, I have 700 AAD-1 balloons in the sky above the capital. As the nuke was coming into earth each one loosed 18 missiles, spamming the air. With that amount of missiles, at least one of the weapons will be hit. When that one blows up, the massive blast will also detonate the others, high, high up above the city.

Happy?

Nope, nah. Impossible. The MIRVs were released high, high above the range of your ballons. And I thought I destroyed all your satellites? Where the hell did they come from?
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 05:49
You only destroyed what I attacked you with.

And the missiles, even if they are deployed "high, high above range" of my balloons are still coming towards the city and will be in range as they move to hit the city.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 05:50
You only destroyed what I attacked you with.

And the missiles, even if they are deployed "high, high above range" of my balloons are still coming towards the city and will be in range as they move to hit the city.

They're moving at Mach 30+. And my OWPs would have detected your SDIs long before they had the chance to destroy my nukes.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 05:53
I dont no what an OWP is.

And I dont care how fast they are going, with 9,400 missiles packed tightly into a small area, one of those missiles will be hit.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 05:54
I dont no what an OWP is.

And I dont care how fast they are going, with 9,400 missiles packed tightly into a small area, one of those missiles will be hit.

Orbital Weapons Platform

And do you even know what a MIRV is? Even if you hit one of them, the rest will hit fo' sure.
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 05:54
Nope, nah. Impossible. The MIRVs were released high, high above the range of your ballons. And I thought I destroyed all your satellites? Where the hell did they come from?

I brought him some more, in addition to the Ion Cannon, it was well and thoroughly posted when I came in. You must have read it. I cannot possibly fathom you not reading it. The controls to the new ones were with the controls to the Ion Cannon. I'm sheilding the satelites now, and attacks from other satelites will be retaliated against by my Ship stationed up there. All attacks from the surface will be shielded against.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 05:54
I brought him some more, in addition to the Ion Cannon, it was well and thoroughly posted when I came in. You must have read it. I cannot possibly fathom you not reading it. The controls to the new ones were with the controls to the Ion Cannon. I'm sheilding the satelites now, and attacks from other satelites will be retaliated against by my Ship stationed up there. All attacks from the surface will be shielded against.

I ignored your Tech-wank Ion Cannon, remember?
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 05:58
Orbital Weapons Platform

And do you even know what a MIRV is? Even if you hit one of them, the rest will hit fo' sure.

They are nukes. When a nuke blows up, it makes a big boom. That blows up the other nukes.
Imperial isa
28-09-2006, 05:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emporer Pudu


Imperial isa: I would encourage you to check out the F/A-35 Talon air superiority fighter!

You seemed interested in giving him aircraft earlier, why not loan him a few of these babies;

F/A-35 Talon
Function: Air superiority, ground attack, and interceptor
Crew: 1
Engine: Two Pratt & Whitney F120-PW-100 engines and two Pulse Detonation Wave Engines (PDWEs)
Length: 72.08 feet
Wingspan: 56.5 feet
Height: 19.67 feet
Empty Weight: 32,265 lb
Maximum Weight: 71,000 lb
Speed: Mach 5.8 (max.), Mach 1.1 (cruising), Mach 1.9 (afterburners)
Ceiling: 150,000ft
Range: unlimited with air refueling, 3,850 max w/ no refueling
Weapons: One rotating internal weapon launchers, the launcher can hold up to 12 missiles, or 6 bombs. This keeps the airframe sleek and the radar cross-section small. Two 20mm Vulcan cannons mounted on the left and right sides behind the cockpit. Compatable with; AIM-150 Scorpion AELRAAM, AIM-120 AMRAAM, AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-120 AMRAAM, AGM-160 Hammer AELRAGM, AGM-154A, AGM-154B, AGM-154C, AGM-136A, AGM-158, AGM-84 Harpoon, AGM-98 Swordfish AELRASM, Most of the GBU class of dumb and laser guided bombs.
Image: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4...817c0984nf.jpg


As it seems that you have roughly 2.25 trillion dollars in your defense budget, you could afford exactly foureen thousand of these fine aircraft, leaving of course money to pay for your armies food and wages, etc.

Anyway, for 14,000 F/A-35 Talon air superiority fighters, it will cost you eight-hundred and sixty-eight million (868,000,000) Universal Standard Dollars.

Also, to protect these nice new aircraft when on the ground, I will sell you the ADATS anti-aircraft and anti-tank system, mounted aboard a Bradley-type armored vehicle. A very formidable weapon for ground defense.

ADATS
Type: Air Defence and Anti Tank System
Length: 6.55 metres
Width: 3.61 metres
Height: 2.565 metres
Weight: 15 t
Speed: 58 km/h
Vehicle Range: 400 km
Crew: 3
Armour: N/A
Weapons: 8 ADATS missile per launcher (Speed Mach 3) 12.5 kg HE fragmentation/shaped charge, impact and proximity fuze. Penetrates 900 mm RHA
Weapon Range: 10 km
Image: http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5315/adats695st.jpg


For only twenty-five million and seven-hundred and sixty thousand (25,760,000) Universal Standard Dollars twenty-eight thousand of these could be be yours.

Now, I reccomend not giving all of these to Blackhelm just yet. Send him maybe... two to three of the aircraft and maybe four thousand of the ADATS, and then hold the rest in reserve. Thatway, when war breaks out someplace new, you have reserves you can deploy to protect them too.

Alright, your complete total for the Blackhelm Aircraft Assistance purchase will be 893,760,000 Universal Standard Dollars.

Is this what you want?


(Also, if you're interested, I can write you up a quick little package for some kind of ground force to protect these, with armored vehicles and such...)
To
Pudite Military Arms

the money of $868,000,000 Universal Standard Dollars for the
planes has been wired to you
from
Imperial Isa ministry of
defence procurements

Blackhelm Confederacy i just payed for these to loan them to you use the three thousand planes and four thousand of the ADATS well

i all so left most of the posting so people can see i had help
and i thank he again for it
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 05:59
They are nukes. When a nuke blows up, it makes a big boom. That blows up the other nukes.

They are hitting thirty miles apart. That's more than a safe distance away from the others.
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 06:02
I ignored your Tech-wank Ion Cannon, remember?

Yes, but you never posted anything about the SDI's. their seperate systems. Your ignore only counted the Ion Cannon, that was the only thing you mentioned.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 06:03
So then it will not affect my capital.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 06:03
Hey Black Can you reply to me landing post when you have a minute?
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 06:05
Hey Black Can you reply to me landing post when you have a minute?

I did, I asked you to change it as your landers cannot directly land on the shore.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:05
So then it will not affect my capital.

...What? They are aimed at your capital.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 06:06
I did that
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 06:08
...What? They are aimed at your capital.

They are thirty miles apart, being fired from the same satelite (how is beyond me) and still all hit the same 8 mile city, while moving Mach 30 and remaining 30 miles apart at 60,000 feet?
Hurtful Thoughts
28-09-2006, 06:08
K, even I understand BC's reason why Toc's nukes failed

1. Concentrated all at one target.
One good explosion would nuettralize every one of them
I'll go into this further later

2. Balloons can reach very high altitudes, the first and only parachute jumps from space (and subsequntly, only supersonic free-fall of a human being) were from high altitude balloons.

3. Choice of warhead, use of MIRVs within such close proximity to themselves only improves the chance that one will be hit setting off a chain reaction defusing all your nukes (a similar incedent hapened in WW2 when the germans placed their mines so close together that a single errant bomb would set off a chain reaction that could demine whole minefields)

Methods Nukes are nuetralized:

Expolsion and KE: wrecks thwe warhead, preventing the warhead from reaching critical mass. This includes shrapnel from exploding ICBM detonators, which are still triggered shortly after the impact.

Radiation: "Nuetron cooking" breaks down the fissionable material due to radiation bombardment, the original ABM concept involved launching a small nuke into the expected path of the nukes and blowing up within range of nuetron cooking.

Lasers: Bursts Rocket motor, sending missile off course, this is generally considered a good thing on paper, but those missiles have to land somewhere... Usually on the soil of the attacking nation.

EMP and HPM: wrecks electronic timing and trigger devices on warhead, making it a dud mach 30, 10 ton, KE, dirty shell.

End resault is, you used your nukes unintellegently and now you lost them all against a vwery simple and rudimentry ABM system that would most likely have failed had you done it any other way.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:08
They are thirty miles apart, being fired from the same satelite (how is beyond me) and still all hit the same 8 mile city, while moving Mach 30 and remaining 30 miles apart at 60,000 feet?

Yeah, pretty much :D
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:11
K, even I understand BC's reason why Toc's nukes failed

1. Concentrated all at one target.
One good explosion would nuettralize every one of them
I'll go into this further later

2. Balloons can reach very high altitudes, the first and only parachute jumps from space (and subsequntly, only supersonic free-fall of a human being) were from high altitude balloons.

3. Choice of warhead, use of MIRVs within such close proximity to themselves only improves the chance that one will be hit setting off a chain reaction defusing all your nukes (a similar incedent hapened in WW2 when the germans placed their mines so close together that a single errant bomb would set off a chain reaction that could demine whole minefields)

Methods Nukes are nuetralized:

Expolsion and KE: wrecks thwe warhead, preventing the warhead from reaching critical mass.

Radiation: "Nuetron cooking" breaks down the fissionable material due to radiation bombardment, the original ABM concept involved launching a small nuke into the expected path of the nukes and blowing up within range of nuetron cooking.

Lasers: Bursts Rocket motor, sending missile off course, this is generally considered a good thing on paper, but those missiles have to land somewhere... Usually on the soil of the attacking nation.

EMP and HPM: wrecks electronic timing and trigger devices on warhead, making it a dud mach 30, 10 ton, KE, dirty shell.

End resault is, you used your nukes unintellegently and now you lost them all against a vwery simple and rudimentry ABM system that would most likely have failed had you done it any other way.

They weren't in close proximity. :rolleyes:
Hurtful Thoughts
28-09-2006, 06:14
Yeah, pretty much :D

Ooh, I get it, you fired them 30 miles one after another...
(Not next to each other)

In a ripple fire pattern...

That changes a few things...

Still, the use of Mirvs to strike one target is counter-productive.

EDIT
Ever play "missile defenders"
Now imagine playing the game, and you know every one of the missiles are heading for the same city, are evenly spaced, and have MIRVs, which only makes it a bigger target.

Even a blind man would be able to down 300 of them...
And someone who just keeps pumping ABMs directly in the path of the missiles like the 20 mm shells of a Phalanx CIWS would get somethin over 90% so long as ammo holds up.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 06:14
Yeah, pretty much :D

No.

And thanks PROHT.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:18
No.

And thanks PROHT.

Let's get one thing straight. You are a god modder, you claim to have a Corporation with unlimited projection capability, defense budget and uber-stealth tracking Gnats. You have absolutely no right to speak.

And I'm about ready to say the nuke attack never happened, seeing as you can't take it maturely.
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 06:19
Ooh, I get it, you fired them 30 miles one after another...
(Not next to each other)

In a ripple fire pattern...

That changes a few things...

Still, the use of Mirvs to strike one target is counter-productive.

Ever play "missile defenders"
Now imagine playing the game, and you know every one of the missiles are heading for the same city, are evenly spaced, and have MIRVs, which only makes it a bigger target.

Even a blind man would be able to down 300 of them...

Somehow, I feel unintelligent now.:(
Oh well.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:20
Ooh, I get it, you fired them 30 miles one after another...
(Not next to each other)

In a ripple fire pattern...

That changes a few things...

Still, the use of Mirvs to strike one target is counter-productive.

EDIT
Ever play "missile defenders"
Now imagine playing the game, and you know every one of the missiles are heading for the same city, are evenly spaced, and have MIRVs, which only makes it a bigger target.

Even a blind man would be able to down 300 of them...

Again, no. They are going FAR TOO FUCKING FAST to shoot down.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 06:22
Let's get one thing straight. You are a god modder, you claim to have a Corporation with unlimited projection capability, defense budget and uber-stealth tracking Gnats. You have absolutely no right to speak.

And I'm about ready to say the nuke attack never happened, seeing as you can't take it maturely.

You are the one is not taking it well. And if you actually knew what the case in point was, you would know the Gnats did not find the stealth planes, as Gnats do not have radar. A squadron of F-4's recieved a visual on the bombers as they crossed Blainesvilles airspace, and the mass of I believe 300 B-2's defeated their purpose and allowed for them to show up on radar. So you have absolutly no idea what you are talking about.

SHUT THE FUCK UP
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:24
You are the one is not taking it well. And if you actually knew what the case in point was, you would know the Gnats did not find the stealth planes, as Gnats do not have radar. A squadron of F-4's recieved a visual on the bombers as they crossed Blainesvilles airspace, and the mass of I believe 300 B-2's defeated their purpose and allowed for them to show up on radar. So you have absolutly no idea what you are talking about.

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Oh, I've seen plenty of times when you've managed to detect stealth aircraft with your Uber-Gnats. I just don't feel like citing examples anymore. And YOU are the one not accepting the nuke attack. You and your buddies, anyway.
Imperial isa
28-09-2006, 06:25
Again, no. They are going FAR TOO FUCKING FAST to shoot down.

fuck no
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:26
fuck no

You are not even involved in this.
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 06:27
I'm afraid someone's going to end up forum banned before this is over.

Since this whole thing has pretty much degraded into a yelling contest, why don't we just call the whole thing off? At least this way we all go our seperate ways and never interact again.

Well, at least some won't.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 06:27
I would like you to find, on any occasion, where it was a Gnat, and not an F-4 that found the steath bomber, and did not do so by litterally crossing paths while it was on patrol.

Also PROHT just blew up two of my major airbases, so buddy, I don't know.

And YOU are not accepting the fact that I legitimatly stopped your nukes. Grow the fuck up.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:30
I would like you to find, on any occasion, where it was a Gnat, and not an F-4 that found the steath bomber, and did not do so by litterally crossing paths while it was on patrol.

Also PROHT just blew up two of my major airbases, so buddy, I don't know.

And YOU are not accepting the fact that I legitimatly stopped your nukes. Grow the fuck up.

I said I am willing to retcon the nuke attack, seeing as you cannot accept it for what it was. Do you accept my offer or not? Because honestly, I don't care either which way for it now.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 06:30
Compromise. How about most of the MIRVS get shot down, but a few hit, causing massive desruction but not oblivation
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 06:32
Compromise. How about most of the MIRVS get shot down, but a few hit, causing massive desruction but not oblivation

On that note, I offered the same deal in the thread, sacrificing my entire force (except bob), giving BC half the city population, and Toc the city destroyed.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-09-2006, 06:32
Again, no. They are going FAR TOO FUCKING FAST to shoot down.

Um, how fast is the Space shuttle?
Mach 25+ you say?

They seem to be able to float up and accuratwely dock with other things moving at similar velocities.
How fast is the moon? Mars? (Luna [Russiasn unguided glorified Sputnik that intentionally crashed into moon] and Viking [Mars])
SCUD? (Patriot missile)
How likely is a brick wall to hit a car that is on a collision course with it?
How likely is a gulloteen to chop off a man's head (provided a man's head is in the said blade's known path)?

Speed means nothing when you already know where it is going, and a general idea of where it is. Also, your ICBMs have an ETA of 15 minutes or more after they are fired (and that is if you have a Cuba-America relationship), providing ample time for BC to throw his missile spam at you.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-09-2006, 06:33
Also, if in the 80's we could nail an ICBM then we could do it now, even mutiple warheads. But whatever. Compromise.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-09-2006, 06:37
Toc, why can't you just admit your attack failed?
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:38
Do you accept my offer or not? I'll just mount a normal invasion if you do. :rolleyes:
Yallak
28-09-2006, 06:50
Toc, why can't you just admit your attack failed?

One word: Techwanking
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 06:51
One word: Techwanking

MIRVs are MT. Sorry, try again.
Yallak
28-09-2006, 06:58
MIRVs are MT. Sorry, try again.

Didn't say they weren't, I was refering to this supposed Mach 30+. The average speed of a RL MIRV is just over mach 10.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-09-2006, 07:00
MIRVs are MT. Sorry, try again.

No, I believe he is reffering to your claim that those missiles cannot be shot down due to their speed.

That is most definately false. So stop repeating it, it hurts to read such low-end rational thinking.

It could be going at half the speed of light and it could still be shot down.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 07:02
No, I believe he is reffering to your claim that those missiles cannot be shot down due to their speed.

That is most definately false. So stop repeating it, it hurts to read such low-end rational thinking.

Those are PMT missiles, and I thought this was a PMT RPG. Once more...try again.
Yallak
28-09-2006, 07:04
No, I believe he is reffering to your claim that those missiles cannot be shot down due to their speed.

That is most definately false. So stop repeating it, it hurts to read such low-end rational thinking.

It could be going at half the speed of light and it could still be shot down.

That too. Same as with that post you made where none of blackhelm's missiles survived the attack because of your countermeasures etc even though they outnumbered the targets by alot.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 07:05
That too. Same as with that post you made where none of blackhelm's missiles survived the attack because of your countermeasures etc even though they outnumbered the targets by alot.

What are you even talking about at this point?
Imperial isa
28-09-2006, 07:06
the Patriot can only do Mach 5 Within three seconds after launching
Yallak
28-09-2006, 07:07
Those are PMT missiles, and I thought this was a PMT RPG. Once more...try again.

PMT doesnt just mean you can pull another Mach 20 out of nowhere, its things that will be possible in the next 50 years or so not crap that sounds awsome (which I thankfully haven't seen until now since Axis Nova's flying battleship things with giant lasers cannons on them), so why dont you just try again.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-09-2006, 07:09
No, I believe he is reffering to your claim that those missiles cannot be shot down due to their speed.

That is most definately false. So stop repeating it, it hurts to read such low-end rational thinking.

It could be going at half the speed of light and it could still be shot down.

Those are PMT missiles, and I thought this was a PMT RPG. Once more...try again.

Even if they where FT they'd still be able to be shot down.
Yallak
28-09-2006, 07:09
What are you even talking about at this point?

Refering to more of the techwank you've done earlier, where your countermeasures are apparently infallible even against overwhelming odds. And you still expect other to suffer you attacks claiming their defenses are useless.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 07:11
Refering to more of the techwank you've done earlier, where your countermeasures are apparently infallible even against overwhelming odds. And you still expect other to suffer you attacks claiming their defenses are useless.

He fired outdated missiles at stealth aircraft. And I eventually accepted casualties.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-09-2006, 07:12
Refering to more of the techwank you've done earlier, where your countermeasures are apparently infallible even against overwhelming odds. And you still expect other to suffer you attacks claiming their defenses are useless.

Yeah, that qualifies him as an A1 Techwankery scholarship award candidate.
No more getting high off the fumes emited from the NS draftrom for you...
(To make sure you aren't cheating to techwank this bad)

Most planes in history were shot down by guns aimed solely by the Mark I and II eyeballs...
No low RCS planes are immune to it...
Plus, I believe you are not fully aware to what a missile spam looks like...
Yallak
28-09-2006, 07:16
He fired outdated missiles at stealth aircraft.

Stealth = harder to detect and lock onto not impossible to detect and impossible to be shot at. Stealth aircraft die as easy as any other plane once you've found them.

And I eventually accepted casualties.

Well, thats nice to here then.
Imperial isa
28-09-2006, 07:25
same how someone may say Stealth aircraft are out of date too it could be made out of date by samething hide in a hide base but thats if you in to all that
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 07:26
Stealth = harder to detect and lock onto not impossible to detect and impossible to be shot at. Stealth aircraft die as easy as any other plane once you've found them.



Well, thats nice to here then.

Well, guess that makes me the victor in this arguement, then.
Yallak
28-09-2006, 07:39
Well, guess that makes me the victor in this arguement, then.

Are you serious? You are not the 'victor', grow up. You have not heard a word myself and Hurtful Thoughts has been saying, so as a matter of fact you are the 'loser' because you will continue to ruin RP's with technowank and lose all respect around NS until noone of worth will actually RP with you.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 07:41
Why do you insist on accusing me of tech wank? I'm not the one with EMP lasers and Ion Cannons.
Mationbuds
28-09-2006, 07:44
I have just issued a ultimatum to Blackhelm and his associates .

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11742181&postcount=90
Yallak
28-09-2006, 07:47
Why do you insist on accusing me of tech wank? I'm not the one with EMP lasers and Ion Cannons.

Because you are the one that I noticed kept demanding Blackhelm take losses against attacks you made, when as far as I had seen you refused to take losses against him.

EMP laser I dont have any idea about so won't get involved there.

And while I highly doubt ion cannons would work (seeing as that much equally charged ions wouldn't remain in a beam, because of the repulsive forces) I haven't seen anyone actually post about the use an Ion cannon.
Tocrowkia
28-09-2006, 07:48
Because you are the one that I noticed kept demanding Blackhelm take losses against attacks you made, when as far as I had seen you refused to take losses against him.

EMP laser I dont have any idea about so won't get involved there.

And while I highly doubt ion cannons would work (seeing as that much equally charged ions wouldn't remain in a beam, because of the repulsive forces) I haven't seen anyone actually post about the use an Ion cannon.

I took losses, and cancelled the attack. What more do you want from me?
Yallak
28-09-2006, 07:57
I took losses, and cancelled the attack. What more do you want from me?

I just wanted you to understand that its ruins RP's to refuse losses and expect others to take losses. And I wanted you to know how implausible it is to have Mach 30+ weapons.

If i've done that, then all is good.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-09-2006, 15:47
Because you are the one that I noticed kept demanding Blackhelm take losses against attacks you made, when as far as I had seen you refused to take losses against him.

EMP laser I dont have any idea about so won't get involved there.

And while I highly doubt ion cannons would work (seeing as that much equally charged ions wouldn't remain in a beam, because of the repulsive forces) I haven't seen anyone actually post about the use an Ion cannon.

Trade names for diferent grades of Particle beam weapons and high powered microwave emiters?

Just a guess, I have little idea on whether experiments with the concept actually will go anywhere.

Sometimes PMT and FT nations inadvertently make cotact and trade with lower tech ntions, blurring the lines between MT, PMT and FT. (at least that is my reasoning for newbie tech wanking)
Undershi
28-09-2006, 16:36
I'm back. Sorry for my absence - I was ill.
Imperial isa
28-09-2006, 16:38
I'm back. Sorry for my absence - I was ill.

hey you get that
Dephire
28-09-2006, 19:15
Anyways, I just finished a rather long post in "A Generation's Struggles". Hopefully it will bring up some RP kudos. Here, I'm rather irritated with how stupid this war is getting, so I'm out. Bye.;)
Deserted Territories
28-09-2006, 23:12
Yes, this is a very silly war. Next thing you know people willl be dropping anvils on each other.
Ri-an
28-09-2006, 23:14
Yes, this is a very silly war. Next thing you know people willl be dropping anvils on each other.

I can if you want me to. Seems rather pointless, but I can.
Tocrowkia
29-09-2006, 00:31
I just wanted you to understand that its ruins RP's to refuse losses and expect others to take losses. And I wanted you to know how implausible it is to have Mach 30+ weapons.

If i've done that, then all is good.

You have done nothing of the sort. I simply wanted to end the fighting. Oh, and I'm still going to use orbital weapons, railguns, ABM/AA Lasers, etc.
Undershi
29-09-2006, 17:25
Blackhelm, I'm thinking about providing you with some troops for the defence of your homeland - how many do you need? (And what sort of units?)
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 17:27
You have done nothing of the sort. I simply wanted to end the fighting. Oh, and I'm still going to use orbital weapons, railguns, ABM/AA Lasers, etc.

thats all FT is not the war MT or PMT?
The Infinite Crucible
29-09-2006, 17:42
thats all FT is not the war MT or PMT?

It depends on what orbital weapons he uses. Rods from god are MT/PMT, railguns are PMT. He does not seem to have crossed into FT yet, its not like he is using ion or dark energy cannons.
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 17:45
It depends on what orbital weapons he uses. Rods from god are MT/PMT, railguns are PMT. He does not seem to have crossed into FT yet, its not like he is using ion or dark energy cannons.

so if i give Blackhelm MAC guns how would you class them as
this so no one yells at me
The Infinite Crucible
29-09-2006, 17:48
so if i give Blackhelm MAC guns how would you class them as
this so no one yells at me

Hmm, if they are like those HUGE ones from Halo, probably not. That is just a tad too large for PMT, and it would crush pretty much any nations economy. However, if you just mean a smaller railgun esque device, than it is fine.
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 17:53
Hmm, if they are like those HUGE ones from Halo, probably not. That is just a tad too large for PMT, and it would crush pretty much any nations economy. However, if you just mean a smaller railgun esque device, than it is fine.

thank you
well they are small copys of them
but i think i just play it safe an not say a word
The Infinite Crucible
29-09-2006, 17:56
thank you
well they are small copys of them
but i think i just play it safe an not say a word

Well, what size, if they are small enough I.E. not too much bigger than the international spacestation, I think they are fine.
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 18:01
Well, what size, if they are small enough I.E. not too much bigger than the international spacestation, I think they are fine.

iam going off my memory now days as all my infor was on my now dead pc
i think just 2ms longer of that but like i said iam going off my memory
The Infinite Crucible
29-09-2006, 19:21
iam going off my memory now days as all my infor was on my now dead pc
i think just 2ms longer of that but like i said iam going off my memory

If its only 2m's longer, not quite sure how that works out in the third dimension, it does not sound too bad. Assuming it doesn't turn out to be over the top in power, I am fine with its use.
Tocrowkia
29-09-2006, 20:14
It depends on what orbital weapons he uses. Rods from god are MT/PMT, railguns are PMT. He does not seem to have crossed into FT yet, its not like he is using ion or dark energy cannons.

I use OWP's that launch missiles, and like you said, god rods. And Imperial Isa, I will take out anything you send him to him, so stop trying.
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 20:20
I use OWP's that launch missiles, and like you said, god rods. And Imperial Isa, I will take out anything you send him to him, so stop trying.

hey your fighting him not me so i dont give a shit what you do to what i send him
Tocrowkia
29-09-2006, 20:21
hey your fighting him not me so i dont give a shit what you do to what i send him

But you're only wasting time and resources. And besides, you only have a 2 Trillion dollar defense budget. How long can you keep it up?

http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=tocrowkia&nation2=Imperial+isa&nation3=&nation4=&nation5=&nation6=
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 20:25
But you're only wasting time and resources.


just go an fight and let me learn
Ri-an
29-09-2006, 20:32
I use OWP's that launch missiles, and like you said, god rods. And Imperial Isa, I will take out anything you send him to him, so stop trying.

No you won't. I won't let you. I'm protecting his satelite systems and weapons. I'll destroy yours instead.
Tocrowkia
29-09-2006, 20:33
No you won't. I won't let you. I'm protecting his satelite systems and weapons. I'll destroy yours instead.

Oh, I'm sure you'll try.
Emporer Pudu
29-09-2006, 20:34
thank you
well they are small copys of them
but i think i just play it safe an not say a word

Isa, have you delivered those units I sold you to Blackhelm?
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 20:37
Isa, have you delivered those units I sold you to Blackhelm?

i post it here some were

:headbang:
Tocrowkia
29-09-2006, 20:41
Not to sound like an egomaniac, but Isa, Ri-An, are you sure this is the best course of action for your nations, I mean, look:

http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=tocrowkia&nation2=blackhelm_confederacy&nation3=Imperial+isa&nation4=Ri-An&nation5=&nation6=

I can afford to engage all three of you pretty much indefinitely. The same cannot be said of you. >_>
Jenrak
29-09-2006, 20:45
Not to sound like an egomaniac, but Isa, Ri-An, are you sure this is the best course of action for your nations, I mean, look:

http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=tocrowkia&nation2=blackhelm_confederacy&nation3=Imperial+isa&nation4=Ri-An&nation5=&nation6=

I can afford to engage all three of you pretty much indefinitely. The same cannot be said of you. >_>

lol I must truly agree
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 20:48
Not to sound like an egomaniac, but Isa, Ri-An, are you sure this is the best course of action for your nations, I mean, look:

http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=tocrowkia&nation2=blackhelm_confederacy&nation3=Imperial+isa&nation4=Ri-An&nation5=&nation6=

I can afford to engage all three of you pretty much indefinitely. The same cannot be said of you. >_>

did i say iam sending troops
no i did not i said iam sending gear for BC to use
Ri-an
29-09-2006, 21:14
Not to sound like an egomaniac, but Isa, Ri-An, are you sure this is the best course of action for your nations, I mean, look:

http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=tocrowkia&nation2=blackhelm_confederacy&nation3=Imperial+isa&nation4=Ri-An&nation5=&nation6=

I can afford to engage all three of you pretty much indefinitely. The same cannot be said of you. >_>

It would never work unless I changed Techs to match you. As it is now I'm restraining my strength just for you to have a fair shot at Blackhelm. If I used my Full strength, without you ignoring the Magick side of my nation, you would lose very, very quickly. Otherwise, it would never work out, because our techs are too diffrent, and you would never be able to actually wage war on me because you would be ignoring my entire nation, being that 90% of my nation is magick based.

Now, if you like, I can use my magic. You won't like what I do with it, but I can use it.

And does no one remember? I originally came to give Blackhelm an escape option.

I tell you what, after this threads over, why don't we agree to leave each other alone, unless chance circumstances bring us back together again.
Imperial isa
29-09-2006, 21:18
It would never work unless I changed Techs to match you. As it is now I'm restraining my strength just for you to have a fair shot at Blackhelm. If I used my Full strength, without you ignoring the Magick side of my nation, you would lose very, very quickly. Otherwise, it would never work out, because our techs are too diffrent, and you would never be able to actually wage war on me because you would be ignoring my entire nation, being that 90% of my nation is magick based.

Now, if you like, I can use my magic. You won't like what I do with it, but I can use it.

And does no one remember? I originally came to give Blackhelm an escape option.

I tell you what, after this threads over, why don't we agree to leave each other alone, unless chance circumstances bring us back together again.

here here
The Infinite Crucible
29-09-2006, 22:19
Otherwise, it would never work out, because our techs are too diffrent, and you would never be able to actually wage war on me because you would be ignoring my entire nation, being that 90% of my nation is magick based.

Now, if you like, I can use my magic. You won't like what I do with it, but I can use it.


Abra-Friggen-Kababra :p :D
Wanderjar
29-09-2006, 22:20
Is Blackhelm still in control of Khornate Tribes?
Ri-an
29-09-2006, 22:23
Abra-Friggen-Kababra :p :D

Actually... My magick doesn't work that way. and even still, I would use my character whose very being is Paradox.
Dephire
29-09-2006, 22:25
Alright folks. I'm re-entering this GASN/CA conflict. Only I'm not under any circumstances doing this for the GASN. I will follow the true ways of the GASN, but for now...I'm issuing a state of War against the Corporation known as Griffencrest. My posts will be in "The First Blow". Thank you.
The Infinite Crucible
29-09-2006, 22:33
Actually... My magick doesn't work that way. and even still, I would use my character whose very being is Paradox.

It was a joke. However, maybe you knew that, it can be hard to tell over the internet.
Ri-an
29-09-2006, 22:37
It was a joke. However, maybe you knew that, it can be hard to tell over the internet.

I swear we need a that actually works.
[NS]Zukariaa
29-09-2006, 23:24
Alright folks. I'm re-entering this GASN/CA conflict. Only I'm not under any circumstances doing this for the GASN. I will follow the true ways of the GASN, but for now...I'm issuing a state of War against the Corporation known as Griffencrest. My posts will be in "The First Blow". Thank you.

Make up your mind, dude. You can't seem to keep a character lately.
Tocrowkia
29-09-2006, 23:33
It would never work unless I changed Techs to match you. As it is now I'm restraining my strength just for you to have a fair shot at Blackhelm. If I used my Full strength, without you ignoring the Magick side of my nation, you would lose very, very quickly. Otherwise, it would never work out, because our techs are too diffrent, and you would never be able to actually wage war on me because you would be ignoring my entire nation, being that 90% of my nation is magick based.

Now, if you like, I can use my magic. You won't like what I do with it, but I can use it.

And does no one remember? I originally came to give Blackhelm an escape option.

I tell you what, after this threads over, why don't we agree to leave each other alone, unless chance circumstances bring us back together again.

Um, no. No magic. Why are you even in this RPG if your Magic/FT ?
Hurtful Thoughts
29-09-2006, 23:42
Zukariaa;11748079']Make up your mind, dude. You can't seem to keep a character lately.

Dephire explained:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11747930&postcount=1292
Dephire
29-09-2006, 23:47
It's either that, or I'm just not so sure of myself anymore.
Ri-an
29-09-2006, 23:48
Um, no. No magic. Why are you even in this RPG if your Magic/FT ?

Because as I stated, I came to provide Blackhelm an escape option. His leaders and my leaders met at the international Empires Club, which was located in Blackhelms capital city of Paradise city, however I had to move it because of the war. Now, I keep tabs on nations I'm friendly with in one way or another, and Blackhelms in trouble, thus the slightly advanced, according to his Tech, SDI systems, thus the Ion Cannon, Ignored or not, Thus the Octopus creature named Bob following Chancellor Lucious Blackhelm around ready to wisk him away in trouble. The whole reason I had informed everyone of my magic Flying Continent, was to provide for a better RP if Blackhelm chose to escape with me, so that you all might have a chance to get him fairly before he completly vanished. Its just dirt, my continent wouldn't be that hard to shoot down, especially if you aimed for the center.

Now, to Blackhelms credit, he has thus far chosen of his own will to stay and face you, and you, and everyone else invading his country just to get at his multi-national corporation. I had 50,000 ground troops, but if you'll go back and read an earlier post, I offered to sacrifice them to save Blackhelm's citizens in exchange for you destroying the city with nukes.

See, that's the link, my leaders, (both women by conincidence), liked Chancellor Lucious Blackhelm, (a man) enough to offer to let him have a spot on my world while he rebuilded, afterwhich, I would set him back up on Earth, to continue however he liked.
Axis Nova
30-09-2006, 01:19
PMT doesnt just mean you can pull another Mach 20 out of nowhere, its things that will be possible in the next 50 years or so not crap that sounds awsome (which I thankfully haven't seen until now since Axis Nova's flying battleship things with giant lasers cannons on them), so why dont you just try again.

Antimissile and antiaircraft lasers, which, by the way, are actually in development in real life. The JSF is specifically designed to use them, though they're still in testing.

Also, just because a missile is fast doesn't mean it's unstoppable-- just that it's harder. PMT countermeasures are indicated against PMT missiles, but MT point defenses can still handle them, albiet at a reduced rate of interception.

edit: http://www.you.com.au/news/1275.htm
Tocrowkia
30-09-2006, 07:39
Blackhelm, could you please answer me as to rather or not you accepted my deal? I'll say the attack failed or what ever, I just want to RP at this point. -_-
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-09-2006, 16:19
Blackhelm, could you please answer me as to rather or not you accepted my deal? I'll say the attack failed or what ever, I just want to RP at this point. -_-

Toc, your attack already failed when I RP'ed your missiles being destroyed in my missiles spam.
Dephire
30-09-2006, 16:37
Dephire explained:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11747930&postcount=1292

Hehehehe!:p
Jenrak
30-09-2006, 16:51
If Blackhelm can somehow beat me on my own turf, I'll hang myself in real life.
Dephire
30-09-2006, 16:56
Aww, Blackhelm is making open threats about invading me! :p This is gonna be funny as hell!
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-09-2006, 17:05
If Blackhelm can somehow beat me on my own turf, I'll hang myself in real life.

Where did that come from?
Jenrak
30-09-2006, 17:07
Where did that come from?

From the deepest recesses of my hatred.
Dephire
30-09-2006, 17:07
Where did that come from?

-Shrugs-
Out of the blue I would assume...
Wanderjar
30-09-2006, 17:08
Aww, Blackhelm is making open threats about invading me! :p This is gonna be funny as hell!

You know what, just so you can have your fun with this, I won't even help you, since i know you won't need it.
Wanderjar
30-09-2006, 17:10
From the deepest recesses of my hatred.

That is almost sig worthy. Thanks for giving me the first laugh of my day!
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-09-2006, 17:14
From the deepest recesses of my hatred.

Thats cold bro
Jenrak
30-09-2006, 17:19
Thats cold bro

I strive to please.

That is almost sig worthy. Thanks for giving me the first laugh of my day!

Look above.
Dephire
30-09-2006, 18:26
You know what, just so you can have your fun with this, I won't even help you, since i know you won't need it.

-Frowns-
Nah, wouldn't be fun without you WJ!
Tocrowkia
30-09-2006, 19:09
Oh, what ever. I'm going to launch a ground invasion soon. Are you going to reply to it?
Hurtful Thoughts
30-09-2006, 22:21
-Frowns-
Nah, wouldn't be fun without you WJ!

Should've thought about that before you sen mixed messages...

Now the entire GASN is confused whether they should help you or nuke you...
Questers
01-10-2006, 03:22
Also, and I've been talking to Questers about this, all the curve of the earth is gonna do is have more water on one side of the ship over the other.

Have you bollocks. You have not said anything about this to me at all. Furthermore, all you have posted on the Draftroom is your DCRC, according to this. (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=Search&CODE=getalluser&mid=335)

So why don't you talk to this about me (tommorow), and then go post your 'design' on the draftroom, or alternatively:

Stop making shit up.
Dephire
01-10-2006, 14:30
Have you bollocks. You have not said anything about this to me at all. Furthermore, all you have posted on the Draftroom is your DCRC, according to this. (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=Search&CODE=getalluser&mid=335)

So why don't you talk to this about me (tommorow), and then go post your 'design' on the draftroom, or alternatively:

Stop making shit up.

You have to be kidding me! We talked about my ship! I swear we did!
Axis Nova
01-10-2006, 14:31
You have to be kidding me! We talked about my ship! I swear we did!

If you talked about them on an IM service or IRC or something, provide logs.
Dephire
01-10-2006, 14:36
If you talked about them on an IM service or IRC or something, provide logs.

No, we didn't. I swear we talked about it on NS somewhere...
Questers
01-10-2006, 14:44
I believe what you are talking about is when I told someone that the curvature of the Earth isn't long enough to make a difference, especially on NS. Although my memory is fuzzy, if you can find some links..

*shrug.

You did however, lie about posting it on the draftroom. Why don't you do so right now?
Dephire
01-10-2006, 14:53
Because, I could also swear I posted something like that there...or was it a NS Draftroom thread on NS...just..it got deleted or something...I'm not sure anymore! This is giving me a headache.

And I did post it on the NS Draftroom now that I recall. Otherwise, why the hell would I have "NS Draftroom - Navy" on my favorites list? I think it was considered unfeasible unless I made changes...which I did.. Or was that the Floating Fortress? I don't remember...It was like waaaayyy back in the day!
Questers
01-10-2006, 15:01
Well evidently it wasn't, because you only have 15 posts and the only topic you started was the DCRC. Why don't you start it again?
Emporer Pudu
02-10-2006, 00:24
Have you bollocks. You have not said anything about this to me at all. Furthermore, all you have posted on the Draftroom is your DCRC, according to this. (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=Search&CODE=getalluser&mid=335)

So why don't you talk to this about me (tommorow), and then go post your 'design' on the draftroom, or alternatively:

Stop making shit up.


Own'd
The Infinite Crucible
02-10-2006, 03:57
BC, quick question. Are you firing all your weapons are one peacemaker, or spreading the fire amongst the fourty?
Blackhelm Confederacy
02-10-2006, 04:28
BC, quick question. Are you firing all your weapons are one peacemaker, or spreading the fire amongst the fourty?

It was at all of them, not well aimed. Bear in mind, chaos has no gripped the men as panic sets in.
Bretton
02-10-2006, 06:28
The land war started already?! Crap! I must've missed it...
Dephire
02-10-2006, 20:53
Well evidently it wasn't, because you only have 15 posts and the only topic you started was the DCRC. Why don't you start it again?

-Shrugs-
Let's just move on. I'm going to take away the "Submarine" part of the Drevin and Defiance. Mainly because, how the god damned hell are you supposed to store those cannons if you have to store planes as well?
Questers
02-10-2006, 23:11
Looking at earlier posts, what are the stats for these anyway?
Dephire
02-10-2006, 23:24
Looking at earlier posts, what are the stats for these anyway?

Really big supercarriers that also house Stonehenge-Class Cannons...
Emporer Pudu
03-10-2006, 00:56
wanderjar!!
The Infinite Crucible
03-10-2006, 02:47
The land war started already?! Crap! I must've missed it...

It just started, search for my posts and go to "The Northern Front"
Bretton
03-10-2006, 07:57
Ah, so it is.

So far so good. Remember, the Peacemaker's most valuable asset is its multi-layered defense against precision guided munitions. Make sure you use all of them, or else you won't be getting your money's worth~!
Undershi
05-10-2006, 17:54
Undershi has entered the fighting on Blackhelm's side. I'm already landing troops, and I'm wondering - how many threads are there for this campaign? Could someone please post links if there are more than just the one I've already posted on?
Dephire
05-10-2006, 20:36
Undershi, you know I will defend myself if you ever begin attacking my ships, do you?
Emporer Pudu
05-10-2006, 22:13
I need Wanderjar to respond to the fleet fight NOW, otherwise I'll just assume I won it and finish with what I was doing.
Hurtful Thoughts
05-10-2006, 22:17
Undershi, you know I will defend myself if you ever begin attacking my ships, do you?

Check sigs...
Imperial isa
05-10-2006, 22:19
HEY Emporer Pudu read this


Originally Posted by Wanderjar
Hi! Sorry I've not be real active lately, my grandfather, as some of you know, is seriously ill with Cancer. He does not look good, so I've been very....busy with other things.


If I'm not on for an extended period of time, I apologize, but that may happen soon.


Cheers mates,


---Chris "Wanderjar' Baker
Emporer Pudu
05-10-2006, 22:20
HEY Emporer Pudu read this


Originally Posted by Wanderjar
Hi! Sorry I've not be real active lately, my grandfather, as some of you know, is seriously ill with Cancer. He does not look good, so I've been very....busy with other things.


If I'm not on for an extended period of time, I apologize, but that may happen soon.


Cheers mates,


---Chris "Wanderjar' Baker

Hmmm...

Mayhap some absence will be permitted...
Blackhelm Confederacy
05-10-2006, 22:25
Undershi has entered the fighting on Blackhelm's side. I'm already landing troops, and I'm wondering - how many threads are there for this campaign? Could someone please post links if there are more than just the one I've already posted on?

Surely

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501213

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501265
Imperial isa
05-10-2006, 22:25
its hard to see same one with it

now same one was ask for him must look them up
Ri-an
06-10-2006, 01:47
So, which side is winning?

Those for Blackhelms destruction, or those against Blackhelms destruction?

Oh yea, Blackhelm, check yer TG's.
Hurtful Thoughts
06-10-2006, 03:48
So, which side is winning?

Those for Blackhelms destruction, or those against Blackhelms destruction?

Oh yea, Blackhelm, check yer TG's.

I'll make myself perfectly clear:
I'm at war with Grifencrest and his associates, not the Blackhelm Confederacy
Ri-an
06-10-2006, 03:50
I'll make myself perfectly clear:
I'm at war with Grifencrest and his associates, not the Blackhelm Confederacy

That still doesn't tell me whose winning.
Undershi
07-10-2006, 00:39
Thanks for the links. Now I'm sending in two different expeditionary fleets... one to fight in TWSP, the other to open a new front with TPF... Undershi will help its loyal ally any way it can, as has been said before. I wonder if this will be enough to let Blackhelm hold longer...
Undershi
07-10-2006, 00:46
Dephire, you have nothing to fear - so long as your ships don't attack mine, mine won't attack yours. Is that agreeable to you?
Hurtful Thoughts
07-10-2006, 01:04
Dephire, you have nothing to fear - so long as your ships don't attack mine, mine won't attack yours. Is that agreeable to you?

I'll agree to that, 'Amigo'

Worst battle cry ever:
"Me Amigo!"
A bit of US Marine history/slang/trivia
Imperial isa
07-10-2006, 01:09
theres this thing thats been flying that may be good to watch it is this

The Kraven Military Begins Rapid Mobilisation of All Forces
Dephire
07-10-2006, 04:47
Dephire, you have nothing to fear - so long as your ships don't attack mine, mine won't attack yours. Is that agreeable to you?

-Evil Laugh-
Then let their reign come to an end by the swift stroke of SWORD!
Undershi
08-10-2006, 02:09
Okay... now let's get invading...
Dephire
08-10-2006, 02:11
Okay... now let's get invading...

Yep yep. Wait...Damn. I'm supposed to defend this time..GRR!!!
Undershi
08-10-2006, 03:06
Awww... poor Dephire... :p

EDIT: Yay! My first smily!!!