When Blackhelm beats the world cause he is that good OOC - Page 2
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 08:33
Nano bots are a delusion, so if someones using them then they are insane or FT.
we all insane when we look at one an anought
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 08:35
Thirdgeek
what is he on about
Hey, Yallak can I join the Infinite Empire?
Well, some people prefer to simply RP all parts of their nation (including economy and the like). Personally I dont mind so long as said nation doesn't go overboard in the way they do it.
Oh. So I could simply RP that I have a vast empire stretching across the globe and an infinate economy? Because that would sure sound about right...:rolleyes:
Oh. So I could simply RP that I have a vast empire stretching across the globe and an infinate economy? Because that would sure sound about right...:rolleyes:
Keep in mind Kraven has vassal nations that act as resource centers that provide men, material and money. That is how he powers/supports his vast war machine..
Hey, Yallak can I join the Infinite Empire?
Hey Xharn... haven't seen you around since that RP with Novacom and Xirnium, how you been?
Well, your a good RP'er so you sure can if that's what you want.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 08:44
Oh. So I could simply RP that I have a vast empire stretching across the globe and an infinate economy? Because that would sure sound about right...:rolleyes:
yes it would go over the top
i think if you same times go by nationstates you sound like nuts
today iam top dog in The Largest Cheese Export Sector in vekta
when in hell did i vote on making more cheese
Oh. So I could simply RP that I have a vast empire stretching across the globe and an infinate economy? Because that would sure sound about right...:rolleyes:
No, see that would go against the whole 'not going overboard' thing. I just allow a little bit of variance if its RP'd well because i know that a single issue can sometimes bugger your economy up. Nothing too drastic though and 99% of the time i prefer people use a calc like NStracker or whatever.
Hey Xharn... haven't seen you around since that RP with Novacom and Xirnium, how you been?
Well, your a good RP'er so you sure can if that's what you want.
Yeah, My nation was really messed up after that. We only survived thanks to a mass evacuation to Irathria and Kraven Military/financial support. I have left Slave State Status ever since Kraven was defeated and went hiding.
I have for storyline purposes made Xharn into a more fascist Military State under Patron Joseph Stormberg. He has so far turned Xharn into a Nazi styled Germany.
I am thinking joining the Infinite Empire would be to my advantage as it would provide my nation more protection and give it's war machine more time to build up and eventually expand into northern Irathria...
Hurtful Thoughts
26-09-2006, 08:55
Did anybody even notice I just blew up two of Griffencrest's airbases?
At negligable loss to my own troops?
Keep in mind Kraven has vassal nations that act as resource centers that provide men, material and money. That is how he powers/supports his vast war machine..
And what are these nations except for mere puppets anyways? If I was aware that I could do that, then hell..I could of taken the world over by now.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 09:00
Did anybody even notice I just blew up two of Griffencrest's airbases?
At negligable loss to my own troops?
err no, you did when?
as i was to busy getting help to fix my nation
Yeah, My nation was really messed up after that. <snip>
I am thinking joining the Infinite Empire would be to my advantage as it would provide my nation more protection and give it's war machine more time to build up and eventually expand into northern Irathria...
Ah, ok I never actually got to read the ending but that summed it up nicely.
Does this new Nazi style government include jew-style genocide?
That would be the only thing that may prevent your inclusion into the Empire. As with every other nation your free to have whatever government etc you wish but the Imperial Government won't tolerate mass ethenic cleansings. Wow, that was the same condition I gave to Xirnium last year when he was nuking his own citizens.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 09:03
And what are these nations except for mere puppets anyways? If I was aware that I could do that, then hell..I could of taken the world over by now.
err NO, because sameone all ways cames along to kick your ass to the floor.
And what are these nations except for mere puppets anyways? If I was aware that I could do that, then hell..I could of taken the world over by now.
The nations that support or serve, Kraven are puppets by choice. They are also are also sometimes conquered by his forces. They are not nations he creates and uses they are actual Rpers that join by force or by delusions of greatness. I was one of his puppet states once. The reasons for me joining was because of being hit by a massive invasion by over 8 million men…
And what are these nations except for mere puppets anyways? If I was aware that I could do that, then hell..I could of taken the world over by now.
I don't know if thye still are, but when they were conquered those nations were still run by other players.
Southeastasia
26-09-2006, 09:08
Yeah, My nation was really messed up after that. We only survived thanks to a mass evacuation to Irathria and Kraven Military/financial support. I have left Slave State Status ever since Kraven was defeated and went hiding.
I have for storyline purposes made Xharn into a more fascist Military State under Patron Joseph Stormberg. He has so far turned Xharn into a Nazi styled Germany.
I am thinking joining the Infinite Empire would be to my advantage as it would provide my nation more protection and give it's war machine more time to build up and eventually expand into northern Irathria...
I would not be too sure about that given your increasingly friendly ties to states like Generia and the Imperium Doomanum, as IIRC, Yallak does not have a positive opinion about those two states thanks to the ViZion War.
Me suggest that you stick to CAD.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 09:08
Ah, ok I never actually got to read the ending but that summed it up nicely.
Does this new Nazi style government include jew-style genocide?
That would be the only thing that may prevent your inclusion into the Empire. As with every other nation your free to have whatever government etc you wish but the Imperial Government won't tolerate mass ethenic cleansings. Wow, that was the same condition I gave to Xirnium last year when he was nuking his own citizens.
why was he nuke his own people?
Ah, ok I never actually got to read the ending but that summed it up nicely.
Does this new Nazi style government include jew-style genocide?
That would be the only thing that may prevent your inclusion into the Empire. As with every other nation you're free to have whatever government etc you wish but the Imperial Government won't tolerate mass ethenic cleansings. Wow, that was the same condition I gave to Xirnium last year when he was nuking his own citizens.
Yes it does, I could start a program of exile as oppose to extermination camps? If your government makes a comment about the ethnic and religious cleansing rumors to Fatherland's leadership. The State also does not allow Communists and other political/religious dissidents but we sent them all to the northern mountains to work in concentration style camps.
If we joined the Emperor could easily "convince" Patron Stormberg to exile them to other parts of the Empire as oppose to killing them in hard labor camps.
why was he nuke his own people?
Because he had a crazy God-Emperor who was trying to cleanse the wicked from his own borders.
I would not be too sure about that given your increasingly friendly ties to states like Generia and the Imperium Doomanum, as IIRC, Yallak does not have a positive opinion about those two states thanks to the ViZion War.
Me suggest that you stick to CAD.
Well, Yallak itself never actually entered the ViZion war (mainly due to OOC reasons) so our opinion of those nations is no worse than the one we held for Sarzonia (more distrust than dislike).
Yes it does, I could start a program of exile as oppose to extermination camps? If your government makes a comment about the ethnic and religious cleansing rumors to Fatherland's leadership. The State also does not allow Communists and other political/religious dissidents but we sent them all to the northern mountains to work in concentration style camps.
If we joined the Emperor could easily "convince" Patron Stormberg to exile them to other parts of the Empire as oppose to killing them in hard labor camps.
That works for me. We should make an RP thread where Yallak will send a representative of the High Council to Xharn to finalise its inclusion in the Empire.
That works for me. We should make an RP thread where Yallak will send a representative of the High Council to Xharn to finalise its inclusion in the Empire.
That works for me!
That works for me!
Do you want to make it or shall I?
Southeastasia
26-09-2006, 09:28
That works for me!
But what about Generia, the Imperium Doomanum, Kregaia and all those other nations in the CAD alliance that offered the Stromberg regime assistance? Are you going to chuck them aside because of that?
And Yallak, what sort of OOC reasons?
Do you want to make it or shall I?
I think you should start it. That way I can set the scene for your arrival and show you of what the fatherland has become...
Southeastasia
26-09-2006, 09:39
And what about my question, Xharn?
SEA and Xharn:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501087
Just so we stop cluttering this thread which has enough in it already.
And what about my question, Xharn?
Sorry, maybe this will show you my occ thinking on the matter...
But what about Generia, the Imperium Doomanum, Kregaia and all those other nations in the CAD alliance that offered the Stromberg regime assistance? Are you going to chuck them aside because of that?
I still have the embassies and I am not halting my trade relations with their nations. I am not a member of the notorious C A D alliance. I will still allow their assistance and still host their officers in my training Korps.
I still hold all those nations in high esteem and will still trade and deal with them on an honored level. I am currently trying to gain more military strength. My nation has suffered more than just physical scares but psychological ones of foreigners. That is why they are fascists that want to control their society inside and out. They are therefore willing to deal with certain nations they see as a benefit to their national security. C A D members and Yallak are prime examples of good allies to have in my position…
Axis Nova
26-09-2006, 09:44
And what are these nations except for mere puppets anyways? If I was aware that I could do that, then hell..I could of taken the world over by now.
They're actual player nations rather than Kraven's puppets
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 11:02
And what are these nations except for mere puppets anyways? If I was aware that I could do that, then hell..I could of taken the world over by now.
There are people who play their nations as Kraven slave states.
Mationbuds
26-09-2006, 12:23
No actually my uber shields defended me, it was all a cunning plan. Perhaps you should take your hits when Mationbuds nuked your capital good and proper.
Yea , you should also post damage . Since you're the larger player, you should lead by example and post damage first .
Mationbuds
26-09-2006, 12:25
Hes done it at least 3 times because you were ignoring it.
In the war thread on Blainsville, the allied invasion of your country twice at least in that thread.
I indeed did nuke you twice .
Mationbuds
26-09-2006, 12:33
When did MAtionbuds nuke my capital?
I nuked you twice .
The post links :
-First Nuke Strike (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11724511&postcount=51) (5 Polaris , 5 Trident)
-2nd Nuke Strike (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11728399&postcount=67) (5 Trident)
-And in all I also fired 200 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles ...
Well, so in other words...I can have my own non-slave states that support my nation? Hell, I'm getting burned left and right for having an armada less than two thousand ships and yet he has an armada of more than that. I have an actual Defense Budget, and his is really really low. Yet I'm still the one being taken down. How the fuck does that work out?
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 17:19
Dephire, stop complaining. You have a competent military and guns I fear.
The Kraven Corporation is literally a household name on nationstates, where as you are a minor player, along with most of us.
If Blackhelm could Defeat The NS World, then I am AMF's wife
The Transylvania
26-09-2006, 18:35
If Blackhelm could Defeat The NS World, then I am AMF's wife
I'm going give him that message. Weird.
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 18:38
Dephire, stop complaining. You have a competent military and guns I fear.
The Kraven Corporation is literally a household name on nationstates, where as you are a minor player, along with most of us.
Dephire has a legitimate point. If he can pay for it, he can use it in my eyes.
Dephire has a legitimate point. If he can pay for it, he can use it in my eyes.
Thank you. Now, will someone take into consideration that I have just fired thirty Dominator Cannons onto Blackhelm's soil?
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 19:48
I also personally don't agree to Kraven's style of playing, but what ever. I care not, because the second he mobilizes, if he hasn't already, I'm glassing him.
Speaking of glassing people...
-looks at the giant mushroom cloud behind him-
Anyone interested in some glass vases?
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 20:08
Speaking of glassing people...
-looks at the giant mushroom cloud behind him-
Anyone interested in some glass vases?
Hmm...can I have one with the Overlord's (or whatever he calls it) remains inside?
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 20:08
Dont glass Kraven, it is damn high risk. I think if you were to meet his fleet at sea, however, you could take it down. If I remember correctly his navy is very poor in quality. While he can still bring capitol police in by air, it will start to become very dangerous once the outer air defenses of Blackhelm are taken down.
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 20:10
Dephire has a legitimate point. If he can pay for it, he can use it in my eyes.
If you can afford it, then by all means you should be allowed to use it!
All I was saying is that both myself and Kraven have been like we are for a long, long time. Time enough to come about such things...
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 20:11
Dont glass Kraven, it is damn high risk. I think if you were to meet his fleet at sea, however, you could take it down. If I remember correctly his navy is very poor in quality. While he can still bring capitol police in by air, it will start to become very dangerous once the outer air defenses of Blackhelm are taken down.
I've never fought Kraven, but I have had to deal with some of his slave states before. Not an easy fight, not at all. At least I didn't have to deal with Capitol Police....
Crucible, if we find ourselves being attacked by Kraven's fleet, will you have my back? My cannons are awefully good, yes, but they can be cumbersome...
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 20:15
Dont glass Kraven, it is damn high risk. I think if you were to meet his fleet at sea, however, you could take it down. If I remember correctly his navy is very poor in quality. While he can still bring capitol police in by air, it will start to become very dangerous once the outer air defenses of Blackhelm are taken down.
Nah...how did that proverb go? "He who strikes first lives longest" or something like that? Besides, I don't have the time nor patience to deal with him conventionally.
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 20:15
Crucible, if we find ourselves being attacked by Kraven's fleet, will you have my back? My cannons are awefully good, yes, but they can be cumbersome...
As always mate, I'm with you. (I know that wasn't directed to me, I'm just stating the fact :))
"In the shadow of Darkness, light always shines through.."
Thank you for your support Wanderjar. It's good knowing you still have allies out there in the harsh, cruel world...
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 20:19
"In the shadow of Darkness, light always shines through.."
Thank you for your support Wanderjar. It's good knowing you still have allies out there in the harsh, cruel world...
Thats what allies are for mate ;)
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 20:22
Crucible, if we find ourselves being attacked by Kraven's fleet, will you have my back? My cannons are awefully good, yes, but they can be cumbersome...
Yes, I will fight the Kraven Fleet with you. My fleet is a bit "soft" so you may want to take the front line, which I will assist with my battlecruisers and battleships, and the rest of my ships will play the role of artillery.
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 20:23
Yes, I will fight the Kraven Fleet with you. My fleet is a bit "soft" so you may want to take the front line, which I will assist with my battlecruisers and battleships, and the rest of my ships will play the role of artillery.
In addition, my Sub-Heavy fleet will help you.
-Laughs evilly as the "Galactic Empire Theme Music" plays in the background.-
"Most Excellent!"
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 20:30
Seriously, dewds, unless you can somehow mount an effective Naval Operation with dust in the Stratosphere, stay away from Kraven's fleet. I am going to carpet bomb him with MIRVs.
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 20:35
Seriously, dewds, unless you can somehow mount an effective Naval Operation with dust in the Stratosphere, stay away from Kraven's fleet. I am going to carpet bomb him with MIRVs.
Well just in case there is anything remaining, we will move in.
You obviously don't know the full power of our fleets, do you? (Is aimed at Tocrowkia.)
Clandonia Prime
26-09-2006, 20:38
MIRVs... hmm does Kraven have nukes?
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 20:38
You obviously don't know the full power of our fleets, do you? (Is aimed at Tocrowkia.)
Erm, I think I have an idea. I have a potent Navy as well. It's just that it will be a waste of time. Me handling the situation quickly and deftly will be more efficient in the long run.
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 20:39
You obviously don't know the full power of our fleets, do you? (Is aimed at Tocrowkia.)
You'll have to contend with both Kravan and Pudite fleets, if it is naval war you want...
And none of you have every seen me deploy even a fraction of my forces at once. At the height of the Chitzeland war I still only had a few hundred ships in action...
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 20:40
MIRVs... hmm does Kraven have nukes?
No.... [/horrendous sarcasm]
May I remind everyone that my cannons can obliterate a great deal many ships even before they get within range of attacking my own. All GASN, ADAN, and my allies know of the full capabilities of the Dominator and Stonehenge.
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 20:50
May I remind everyone that my cannons can obliterate a great deal many ships even before they get within range of attacking my own. All GASN, ADAN, and my allies know of the full capabilities of the Dominator and Stonehenge.
Even the largest ship can manouver...
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 20:53
Even the largest ship can manouver...
But scarcely out of the way of our rail cannons. I have them too.
Even the largest ship can manouver...
Yes, and even the largest ship can capsize from a tsunami. Don't become my enemy, Pudu. I, for one, still haven't unleashed my full armada. What I have unleashed is but a taste of my power.
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 20:57
Yes, and even the largest ship can capsize from a tsunami. Don't become my enemy, Pudu. I, for one, still haven't unleashed my full armada. What I have unleashed is but a taste of my power.
Dephire my man, Pudu is enemy to all of us.
Yes, and even the largest ship can capsize from a tsunami. Don't become my enemy, Pudu. I, for one, still haven't unleashed my full armada. What I have unleashed is but a taste of my power.
That's quite the talk there, buddy. Don't bite off more than you can chew.
I still consider Pudu a great friend of mine. I won't let my emotions cloud my judgement...
-Baal gains fifteen light points!-
Light Points: 80/100
Dark Points: 5/100
Neutral Points: 15/100
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 21:01
I still consider Pudu a great friend of mine. I won't let my emotions cloud my judgement...
-Baal gains fifteen light points!-
Light Points: 80/100
Dark Points: 5/100
Neutral Points: 15/100
LOL!!!!
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 21:04
But scarcely out of the way of our rail cannons. I have them too.
I have rail cannons too...
The Aeson
26-09-2006, 21:05
I have rail cannons too...
Yeah... rail cannons are pretty common. I have big ones. But I'm not involved here. So...
I have rail cannons too...
Yes, and how big are yours?
Clandonia Prime
26-09-2006, 21:05
Yeah... rail cannons are pretty common. I have big ones. But I'm not involved here. So...
And I have actual guns on rails!
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 21:07
I still consider Pudu a great friend of mine. I won't let my emotions cloud my judgement...
-Baal gains fifteen light points!-
Light Points: 80/100
Dark Points: 5/100
Neutral Points: 15/100
The Dominion still regards you as in the upper of the three tiers that nations are assigned too based on previous international encounters and ideology.
I guess that is the Pudite equivalent of "great friend"...
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 21:08
The Dominion still regards you as in the upper of the three tiers that nations are assigned too based on previous international encounters and ideology.
I guess that is the Pudite equivalent of "great friend"...
I thought that you hated everyone ICly. ;)
OOC I have no problem with you, but ICly, well....
-Baal bows his head in respect.-
"Then let us not fight one another. I hereby offer a 'Non-Hostile' Truce with you. This will ensure that we can still fight one another's allies, such as me vs. Kraven and you vs. one of my own, but we shall not fight one another. What say you?"
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 21:11
-Baal bows his head in respect.-
"Then let us not fight one another. I hereby offer a 'Non-Hostile' Truce with you. This will ensure that we can still fight one another's allies, such as me vs. Kraven and you vs. one of my own, but we shall not fight one another. What say you?"
I wouldn't do that, it leaves you open to attack later....*Remembers Operation Barbarossa*
"You must forgive even the most notorious murderors. I can forgive Pudu for his tainted past. Even the darkest sith lord have light still within them. I can see that light. Someday, the taint within his person will be replaced by this light..I have faith in Pudu. He has proven himself reliable and a good friend that has always kept thier word. Just as in Chitzeland, he never harmed one Dephirian. Forgive Pudu."
-Baal gained twenty light points!-
Light Points: 100/100
Dark Points: None
Neutral Points: None
"The path to Enlightenment has been achieved."
The Transylvania
26-09-2006, 21:29
That's quite the talk there, buddy. Don't bite off more than you can chew.
He has already got him a taste of the power of Gholgoth. Took twelve hours to get our point across to his forces.
The fastest win I have every been in. Thanks, D. It was fun.
He has already got him a taste of the power of Gholgoth. Took twelve hours to get our point across to his forces.
The fastest win I have every been in. Thanks, D. It was fun.
-Shrugs-
"What can I say? My government was being controlled by a tyrant and now it's under a good man."
The Aeson
26-09-2006, 21:32
"You must forgive even the most notorious murderors. I can forgive Pudu for his tainted past. Even the darkest sith lord have light still within them. I can see that light. Someday, the taint within his person will be replaced by this light..I have faith in Pudu. He has proven himself reliable and a good friend that has always kept thier word. Just as in Chitzeland, he never harmed one Dephirian. Forgive Pudu."
-Baal gained twenty light points!-
Light Points: 100/100
Dark Points: None
Neutral Points: None
"The path to Enlightenment has been achieved."
Hands Dephire a Deadpool comic.
The Aeson
26-09-2006, 21:38
"What's this?"
*grins as the very existence of the comic creates a *loony points* counter*
Sorry. I'll leave now...
Automagfreek
26-09-2006, 21:41
If Blackhelm could Defeat The NS World, then I am AMF's wife
O_o
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 21:53
Yes, and how big are yours?
Alright; I use 32" guns on some larger capital ships, 25" and 16" guns regularly, and many smaller variants for things like Corvettes and the like.
Also, my coastal defense batteries and heaviest artillery pieces are 42" and 31", respectively
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 21:54
O_o
Plan a wedding:p
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 21:55
-Baal bows his head in respect.-
"Then let us not fight one another. I hereby offer a 'Non-Hostile' Truce with you. This will ensure that we can still fight one another's allies, such as me vs. Kraven and you vs. one of my own, but we shall not fight one another. What say you?"
Mr. White has put this before the Emperor and the High Council (as it is known in during wartime), and it has been agreed to, once again, that the Pudite and Dephiran friendship shall not be tainted by the wars of their allies, or enemies, rather.
And in response to Wanderjar: No, not all at once. We see some governments fit to continue their rule becuase the Dominion may agree with their policies, ideology, or some other such factor. Most others, however, we do hate. Like you, in character.
O_o
ha ha ha ha!!! That look is definitely a Kodak moment.
Alright; I use 32" guns on some larger capital ships, 25" and 16" guns regularly, and many smaller variants for things like Corvettes and the like.
Also, my coastal defense batteries and heaviest artillery pieces are 42" and 31", respectively
I must say that those do pale in comparison to Aeson's and my own cannons, but let us put this "Who has the bigger guns" thing aside and move onto more pressing issues, such as those ass holes in Danteri.
Automagfreek
26-09-2006, 22:14
Plan a wedding:p
Nah, I'd rather plan a funeral.
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 22:15
Nah, I'd rather plan a funeral.
hahahaha lol
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 22:16
I must say that those do pale in comparison to Aeson's and my own cannons, but let us put this "Who has the bigger guns" thing aside and move onto more pressing issues, such as those ass holes in Danteri.
My guns are tactical, yours strategic.
My guns are tactical, yours strategic.
In this you are correct, my friend.
Oh, AMF..is there any possibility in persuading your friends in Danteri to just leave me the fuck alone? It's getting old this thing about ganging up on me. I mean, if you read it, I am offering Danteri something that could BENEFIT it for god's sake! I was asking politely, and all I was given was hostility. It's sounding more and more like the Gholgoths just want to conquer the nation and not give it back to the people. I mean, I even said that it would help the Danterians and that Dephire NEVER harmed a Danterian, yet I am still slammed with fucking hostility! What the fucking hell?
Look at it from our In Character point of view, Dephire. All our leaders hate you and your country. We tried to reunite the country diplomatically, which would have helped it much more than it is now. We gave your country three chances to resolve it without fighting, and all were turned down. So we invaded you and defeated you. All of a sudden, once we've defeated you in combat, there's a coup and you suddenly seem to have the best interests of Danteri in mind.
By this point, we don't care. We all got pissed off because you were being so belligerent before, that we've turned down all your offers of aid, and even given you another diplomatic chance to leave peacefully. It's not just you. We're telling everyone to leave, because we're handling the rebuilding. It's not that we don't like you (Well, actually yes, all our IC leaders hate you), it's that we're handling the rebulding. If you notice, we're also telling everybody else to get out as well, so Gholgoth and Gholgoth alone can handle it. Okielahoma, Undershi, probably even Zukariaa pretty soon ... They're all going to be forced out, at the tip of a sword if necessary, so Danteri can be united and rebuilt under Gholgoth and then given back to Danteri.
That's how our IC people see it. So it's not that we're OOC being like 'Yeah, let's gang up on Dephire some more!', it's that our IC leaders are acting the way our IC leaders act. And you have to deal with it IC, instead of making OOC requests.
-The player behind Haraki, who is not an II-er. Special trip.
Automagfreek
26-09-2006, 22:28
Oh, AMF..is there any possibility in persuading your friends in Danteri to just leave me the fuck alone? It's getting old this thing about ganging up on me. I mean, if you read it, I am offering Danteri something that could BENEFIT it for god's sake! I was asking politely, and all I was given was hostility. It's sounding more and more like the Gholgoths just want to conquer the nation and not give it back to the people. I mean, I even said that it would help the Danterians and that Dephire NEVER harmed a Danterian, yet I am still slammed with fucking hostility! What the fucking hell?
Our leaders have made up their minds, that there will not be peace in Danteri until all outsiders are gone. This includes ourselves, but we will not leave until everyone else is gone and Danteri is able to hold its own.
My guys aren't being hostile to you OOCly, this is strictly business. And because our leaders don't mess around, it's pretty much our way or a pine box. It would be severely breaking character if we let OOC feelings, viewpoints, or stances effect how our leaders would normally act in situations like this.
Well see, from my IC point of view, it's as if the Gholgoth want to take Danteri for their own selves. From my IC p.o.v., Vega is trying to ask nicely, and is given hateful remarks. From my IC POV, no one really knows of what has been going on within Dephire before the Danteri thing ever even happened and it offends Vega that everyone really doesn't give a damn. Vega is thinking about completely wiping Dephire off the face of the NS World because he now knows that Dephire is just a Dark Evil empire that cannot change it's way. I'm not even trying to push OOC into IC, what I'm trying to say is that even ICly, no matter what the hell Vega says, it's always turned down.
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 22:48
Our leaders have made up their minds, that there will not be peace in Danteri until all outsiders are gone. This includes ourselves, but we will not leave until everyone else is gone and Danteri is able to hold its own.
My guys aren't being hostile to you OOCly, this is strictly business. And because our leaders don't mess around, it's pretty much our way or a pine box. It would be severely breaking character if we let OOC feelings, viewpoints, or stances effect how our leaders would normally act in situations like this.
OOC: "...We'll stand down when they stand up..."
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 22:50
It would be severely breaking character if we let OOC feelings, viewpoints, or stances effect how our leaders would normally act in situations like this.
OOC: I learned that the hard way... kind of.
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 22:57
So, I keep seeing things about having 'peace talks' to straighten this out, and i've seen BC and Craven agree on it, and yet nothing has slowed down.
Clandonia Prime
26-09-2006, 22:59
So, I keep seeing things about having 'peace talks' to straighten this out, and i've seen BC and Craven agree on it, and yet nothing has slowed down.
Yeah thats about me, he nuked me and I want compensation if not then Craven and the others who are pointing all their missiles at him will be targetted.
Tyrandis
26-09-2006, 23:01
OOC:
Back to my original question... what the hell is an "airborne aircraft carrier"?
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 23:02
OOC:
Back to my original question... what the hell is an "airborne aircraft carrier"?
Trojan II
The Trojan II Class Rigid Aircraft Carrier is a helium filled, rigid airship (not a blimp). The helium is contained in several self-sealing cells which are packed in a kevlar/polymer composite skin which is wrapped around a lightwieght foamed titanium alloy skeleton. There are 6 turbofans which provide foward flight propulsion, two stationary gas turbine powered ducted fan to provide additonal power and to conserve fuel while cruising. The Trojan II Class improves greatly on the old Trojan Class, which combined the capabilites of the KC-10 Tanker, the E-3 AWACS, and the US airborne aircraft carriers of World War 1. We have been able to hold 20 F-3 HellcatIIs on bard and conduct the launching and recovery under many circumstances. A lightwieght magnetic catapault(powered by the solar panels or fuel cells) propells the aircraft foward. Since during launch the air is passing over the wings of the aircraft to be launched at 300mph the catapault only acts as an ejector system to get the aircraft clear of the airship. The launching aircraft only needs to use 60% engine power to get clear of the airship's leading edge, and a blast deflector protects the planes left on the deck from being damaged. Landing is a bit tricky but it can be achived routinely with a little practice. The operation is much like in-flight refueling, the aircraft brings its self up to the back of the air ship and slowy accelrates/brakes until it is hovering over the landing area on the outer ramp. The arrestor hook(which has to be moved to the front) then captures a hook and the aircraft powers down, making contact with the deck. The hook winches the aircraft in further and the rear hatch is closed. There is a small sotrage area for 7-10 planes under the main deck and in the gondolas, the rest can be stored on top of the deck. There is enough room to re arm and refuel the aircraft for aother mission while they are all on deck. The pilots and crews can sleep, eat and relax in the comforts of the airliner style cabins and galley. Should a catostrophe occur the flight crew in the foward gondolas would detach and they can hold 2 additonal passengers. As for the rest of the crew, a number of 2 man "escape pods" eject through the top of the airships skin and then parachute to saftey. These pods float in water and are protected from NBC attacks as well. These pods are used only if the aircraft can not be launched in time off the deck.(2 pods are downward firing in the plane storage area on the deck.) Two massive radars are enclosed by the skin of the airship (the skin acts as a big radome) It can track multiple airborne targets and act as athe control AWACS for a larger air force operation. If the radar detects incoming missiles, it carries a large variety and quantiy of counter measures to keep it protected from enemy fire. Should the skin of the airship be punctured, up to golf ball sized holes can be self-sealed by a special gel. It can also also refuel bombers, fighters, or another Airship via its 2 hose and drouge systems and 2 flying boom system. Also all on board batteries and fuel-cell systems are supplemented by the solar panels which recharge all systems, in-flight, saving on fuel.
Specifications
Crew: 50 standard (69 max)
[1 pilot, 1 co-pilot, 12 airship crew/weapons/AWACS operators, 2 boom operators , 34 aircraft pilots/support crew
Length: very long, longer than you!
Power Plant: (2) Turbofans (2) Gas Turbine powered ducted fans in tail
Range: 4,000+ miles unrefueled
Service Celing: 33,000 feet
Cruising Speed: 112mph (using rear engines only)
Normal speed: 240mph
Maximum Safe Speed: 320mph
Maximum Speed: 500mph(not reccomended)
Aircraft:
(20) normal sized Fighters
or (24) A-4X sized aircraft.
Weapons
(6) CIWS 30mm Vulcan turrets
(12) AIM-9Z Sidewinders(2 mounted on each CIWS)
(6) SA-102 modified SAMs in (2) launchers
(1) THEL Anti-Missile Laser
(12) AIM-120 AMRAAM or (4) Cruise missiles in foward ports
(9) AIM-54 Phoenix missle in (3) 360 degree turret mounts.
(2) ALMV/ASAT missiles
Counter Measures/Electronics
(320) RR-129A/AL Chaff Countermeasures
(210) JU-51/B Advanced Infrared Flare
(2) anti-IR missile laser pods(these just blind IR sensors)
(2) AN/AAQ-24 DIRCM pods
(2) AN/ALQ-178 ECM pods
ALR-56C Radar Warning Receiver
(2)Air Search Radome (Same as the one on the E-3)
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 23:03
OOC:
Back to my original question... what the hell is an "airborne aircraft carrier"?
Something that falls well into the category of PMT or even FT.
And Clandonia, you did nuke him back, or at least some of your allies did, i'm not going go back and check. But I remeber there was a nuclear exchange, and we all know what the teachers always say to the "But he hit me first." argument.
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 23:06
[What he said.]
You don't think thats even a little pmt?
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 23:08
It is PMT. The Confederacy is PMT, Griffincrest is MT.
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 23:09
It is PMT. The Confederacy is PMT, Griffincrest is MT.
Well then consider me enlightened.
On another point, whats your position on an armistice?
Since this went PMT, I'll stop hlding back on my friend I brought along with me.
I call him I.D. (Ionic Destroyer) and it is a Superweapon.
He's a post modern Tech weapon that could be possible sometime in the future. Heck, it already exists today, though not in a destructive format.
It is an Ion Cannon Satelite. I've read of several variations, and mines an early model I'm giving to Blackhelm as a present because I'm so nice.
Mine has two modes. Singular blast, which is extremly powerful, and takes out all things within 50 meters of the blast, and has the potential to disable electrical systems. This mode has a cool down of five minutes between blasts. five blasts before a five minute recharge.
Then there is mode two, which is a continued blast that can follow the target However, it can only do this for five minutes straight, and the damage is halved. This mode requires a definate cool down of five minutes, and then a recharge of five minutes, for a total of ten minutes.
Recharges and cool downs are seperate acts.
Five minutes can make a break a war.
If your unfamilier with Ion Cannons, visit Wikipedia:
Ion Cannons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_cannon
Modern Ion Thrusters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_thruster
For Recharge and energy purposes, assistance will be given by my ship sitting up there, however it also has Solar panels for Blacky to use later after I am gone.
I don't want to use it, and won't unless Blacky says so, because he has been made IC leader of my forces.
I don't want to use it mainly due to damage to the environment.
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 23:12
Well then consider me enlightened.
On another point, whats your position on an armistice?
I'll take an Armistace.
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 23:13
Could we stop attempting to find the strangest and the most FT-looking semi-modern stuff we can!
God... I thought I was PMT but now... Multi-Legged tanks, flying aircraft carriers, and Ion Cannons from space!
OOC: "...We'll stand down when they stand up..."
what does that mean?
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 23:15
Yeah, I'm going to see if the Armistice idea will stick. Now this doesn'y mean the end of the war, i'll make it perfectly clear you're not into surrenduring anything. We just need to straigthen things out.
Look for the thread.
OOC: "...We'll stand down when they stand up..."
What does that mean?
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 23:16
Ri-an, do me a favor and stop that nuke.
Who the hell is using nukes?!:eek:
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 23:20
Who the hell is using nukes?!:eek:
Tocrowkia
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 23:20
Who the hell is using nukes?!:eek:
tocow-whatever. I hate big lond annoying names, still working on that thread.
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 23:21
tocow-whatever. I hate big lond annoying names, still working on that thread.
Deserted Territories, as a name, is longer than Tocrowkia. :rolleyes:
Stop using nukes! They are far worse than even my cannons!
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 23:23
Deserted Territories, as a name, is longer than Tocrowkia. :rolleyes:
Yes, but I go as DT. Just two letters. Plus, it wasn't personal, I just in general prefer abbreviations or contractions over full names/words.
Oookay. Call me Baal! ^.^
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 23:29
what does that mean?
President Bush regarding Iraq, and you know how that's going...
President Bush regarding Iraq, and you know how that's going...
Uhh..so what does it mean towards their post? Are you assiting them, me, or not bothering? I'm so confused!!! :headbang:
I'll leave the Ion Cannon unfired, if everyone else banishes their nukes. Otherwise, no deal. One good nuking deserves another, and capitol cities don't run away. others have already stated they nuked you, I make this deal then, EVERYONE without exception, recalls and banishes all Nukes that may or may not have already been used, and no one uses them in the future.
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 23:36
I'll leave the Ion Cannon unfired, if everyone else banishes their nukes. Otherwise, no deal. One good nuking deserves another, and capitol cities don't run away. others have already stated they nuked you, I make this deal then, EVERYONE without exception, recalls and banishes all Nukes that may or may not have already been used, and no one uses them in the future.
But nukes are MT. Ion Cannons are not.
Finally, someone who hates nukes!
-Fires the Dominator again.-
Err..
-Fires the Decimator-
Hehehe!
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 23:40
There she be: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11736677#post11736677
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 23:40
But nukes are MT. Ion Cannons are not.
It is MT-PMT. Ion cannons are PMT.
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 23:43
It is MT-PMT. Ion cannons are PMT.
I bet your position would change drastically if it was you these "Ion Cannons" were aimed at. And no, I will not accept it. Ion Cannons are not PMT. No where near it. I wish people would stop trying to tech-wank.
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 23:44
Ion cannons... hmm I think they can pass as PMT, but it is a stretch. Dont worry, this just means I have to bring my Watchful Eye Obliteration Network into play. Its far worse than a single ion cannon.
Edit: Yea, tyrandis does have a point, the energy output would be difficult to achieve. Perhaps replace it with a few God Rods? I am willing to accept it, however.
Also guys, can we try to keep this under control. I know it is a high tension war, but lets all be friends ooc. Lol
Tyrandis
26-09-2006, 23:44
It is MT-PMT. Ion cannons are PMT.
The energy output required for a feasible particle beam is impossible to achieve by any standard, quite frankly.
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 23:49
Uhh..so what does it mean towards their post? Are you assiting them, me, or not bothering? I'm so confused!!! :headbang:
Automagfreek said he would leave when Danteri, or whatever, could hold it's own.
This reminded me of the fact that President Bush said that the US would leave Iraq when they can take care of themselves.
Do...you...understand?
Automagfreek said he would leave when Danteri, or whatever, could hold it's own.
This reminded me of the fact that President Bush said that the US would leave Iraq when they can take care of themselves.
Do...you...understand?
Ah yes, now I do. Only thing is that Western Danteri (the player in control) hasn't been online in weeks!
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 23:55
Ah yes, now I do. Only thing is that Western Danteri (the player in control) hasn't been online in weeks!
So? Chitzeland has been dead for months, and you know how that's going down.
Tyrandis
27-09-2006, 00:08
Concerning your "ion cannon":
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1984/jul-aug/roberds4.jpg
If Blackhelm could Defeat The NS World, then I am AMF's wife
O_o
Would it be wrong of me to want to help Blackhelm win, if only to see that happen? I guess I cold take somebody's country as reparations or something, I dunno.
AMF and Hataria, what a couple. KEKEKEKEKEKE.
For easy refrence, Ill take damage when BC does to paradise city.
Which means I'll never die! :D J/K
Neo-Erusea
27-09-2006, 01:31
Man, what a war. I don't know who to support, the communists or the capitalists.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 01:32
Man, what a war. I don't know who to support, the communists or the capitalists.
For your own health, I recommend joining my alliance, seeing as we're winning.
Communisim FTW!
Neo-Erusea
27-09-2006, 01:33
Concerning your "ion cannon":
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1984/jul-aug/roberds4.jpg
I thought this was called a particle cannon.
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-09-2006, 01:36
For your own health, I recommend joining my alliance, seeing as we're winning.
Communisim FTW!
Yea, you're really winning. You have made no significant gains, and lost a ton of planes and a number of ships.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 01:37
Yea, you're really winning. You have made no significant gains, and lost a ton of planes and a number of ships.
1) I haven't lost any ships. :)
2) I've lost less than 50 fighters.
3) I nuked your capital. Reply to that.
The Infinite Crucible
27-09-2006, 01:59
I thought this was called a particle cannon.
Ions are particles with a charge.
The Infinite Crucible
27-09-2006, 02:00
Man, what a war. I don't know who to support, the communists or the capitalists.
I am not a dirty commie!!!! :p
I just happen to harbor ill will towards BC and Griffincrest from earlier oil disputes.
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-09-2006, 02:02
Nukes are the most cowardly way one can attack. Man up.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 02:06
Nukes are the most cowardly way one can attack. Man up.
I have to agree with that.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:08
Sorry, but no. It's part of my defense doctrine that my military is allowed to use nuclear weapons to destroy the cities of any enemy if it means reducing my own casualties, and how long it will take to end the war.
The Infinite Crucible
27-09-2006, 02:08
Dont taunt him... but I am not really a fan of nukes either. Write a damn good post to go along with them, well then yea I think they are ok. But I mean it has to be great and long as hell.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 02:11
Sorry, but no. It's part of my defense doctrine that my military is allowed to use nuclear weapons to destroy the cities of any enemy if it means reducing my own casualties, and how long it will take to end the war.
Okay, that is the most stupidest thing I have every hear. As of now, my IC reaction of you is that your nation is a bunch cowards. Nukes make RPs suck, writea real post. I know you can.
Rosdivan
27-09-2006, 02:13
Okay, that is the most stupidest thing I have every hear. As of now, my IC reaction of you is that your nation is a bunch cowards. Nukes make RPs suck, writea real post. I know you can.
Oh hush, nukes can be used well. The problem is that you have a bunch of idiot n00bz who don't know how to use nukes. I could write up a beautiful post utilizing nuclear weapons (an atomic demolition munition, since that's all we've got IC), just as I could one with conventional weapons. As it is, I won't because I despise the wankery and n00bness going on, and I need to study for an upcoming test.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:14
Okay, that is the most stupidest thing I have every hear. As of now, my IC reaction of you is that your nation is a bunch cowards. Nukes make RPs suck, writea real post. I know you can.
That is a real post. I won't be launching an invasion until I gain Naval Supremacy. And since many of you don't seem to grasp the meaning of the term, here ya go:
strat‧e‧gy /ˈstrætɪdʒi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[strat-i-jee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -gies.
1. Also, strategics. the science or art of combining and employing the means of war in planning and directing large military movements and operations.
2. the use or an instance of using this science or art.
3. skillful use of a stratagem: The salesperson's strategy was to seem always to agree with the customer.
4. a plan, method, or series of maneuvers or stratagems for obtaining a specific goal or result: a strategy for getting ahead in the world.
[Origin: 1680–90; < Gk stratēgía generalship, equiv. to stratēg(ós) military commander, general (strat(ós) army + -ēgos n. deriv. of ágein to lead) + -ia -y3]
—Synonyms 1. In military usage, a distinction is made between strategy and tactics. Strategy is the utilization, during both peace and war, of all of a nation's forces, through large-scale, long-range planning and development, to ensure security or victory. Tactics deals with the use and deployment of troops in actual combat.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:17
1) I haven't lost any ships. :)
2) I've lost less than 50 fighters.
3) I nuked your capital. Reply to that.
Nuking is not how you fight a Real War. Apprently Im the only one not afarid to launch a ground invasion and unless I have some godarn help, then I may lose. Come on people live a little! Its quite obivous youll never get a true victory by just bombing him
Leafanistan
27-09-2006, 02:18
Blackhelm read your telegrams about the missile you have.
Also, Griffencrest here has a new passport, do we arrange a plastic surgery?
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:18
Nuking is not how you fight a Real War. Apprently Im the only one not afarid to launch a ground invasion and unless I have some godarn help, then I may lose. Come on people live a little! Its quite obivous youll never get a true victory by just bombing him
You've never heard of tactical nuclear weapons, then.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 02:19
Oh hush
Who do you thing you are telling me to hush? Do you see RL nations throwing nukes around like thier M&Ms? Hell no. Only n00bs use nukes to fight becasue they don't know how to role-play. Tocrowkia knows better.
@Tocrowkia: Nope, that was a n00b post. A real post would be you using your navy to crush your enemy navies in one hell of a navy battle. Using nukes is a coward’s move.
Rosdivan
27-09-2006, 02:19
Nuking is not how you fight a Real War. Apprently Im the only one not afarid to launch a ground invasion and unless I have some godarn help, then I may lose. Come on people live a little! Its quite obivous youll never get a true victory by just bombing him
Define victory. One could make a plausible argument that by turning Blackhelm into a smoking crater, one has obtained a victory.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:19
You've never heard of tactical nuclear weapons, then.
Tatical weapons still have the word Nuclear
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 02:21
Define victory. One could make a plausible argument that by turning Blackhelm into a smoking crater, one has obtained a victory.
And become a person that did a war crime.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:21
Define victory. One could make a plausible argument that by turning Blackhelm into a smoking crater, one has obtained a victory.
But you Won't. Its cheap and unfair. He can also do the same. Its more fun and still possible to beat him the regular way
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:22
I think nukes should for all intents and purposes never be used on the NS forums. I mean, how do you respond to: "And all of your base were turned to glass!"
Rosdivan
27-09-2006, 02:22
Who do you thing you are telling me to hush? Do you see RL nunkes throwing nukes around like thier M&Ms? Hell no. Only n00bs use nukes to fight becasue they don't know how to role-play. Tocrowkia knows better.
If you hadn't noticed, RL is not NS and NS is not RL. Comparisons to what happens in real life are inapplicable.
@Tocrowkia: Nope, that was a n00b post. A real post would be you using your navy to crush your enemy navies in one hell of a navy battle. Using nukes is a coward’s move.
Perhaps its because Blackhelm has a habit of not responding to anything anyone does? Plus, Toc could write up a naval post to make Questers and Sarzonia cry with joy, and all you'd get out of Blackhelm would be maybe a paragraph.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:22
Who do you thing you are telling me to hush? Do you see RL nations throwing nukes around like thier M&Ms? Hell no. Only n00bs use nukes to fight becasue they don't know how to role-play. Tocrowkia knows better.
@Tocrowkia: Nope, that was a n00b post. A real post would be you using your navy to crush your enemy navies in one hell of a navy battle. Using nukes is a coward’s move.
Once again, this only the prelude to my overall invasion plan. I am destroying their infrastructure in a timely and efficient manner. I'm pretty sure Saddam Hussein didn't call Norman Schwarzkopf a n00b when he and the USAF destroyed Iraq's infrastructure in the Gulf War.
Errikland
27-09-2006, 02:23
Define victory. One could make a plausible argument that by turning Blackhelm into a smoking crater, one has obtained a victory.
Yes, but if he continues to use tactics that Blackhelm (would the proper abbrev. be BH?) views as n00bish, Blackhelm will continue to ignore him, giving him no victory.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:24
Once again, this only the prelude to my overall invasion plan. I am destroying their infrastructure in a timely and efficient manner. I'm pretty sure Saddam Hussein didn't call Norman Schwarzkopf a n00b when he and the USAF destroyed Iraq's infrastructure in the Gulf War.
Good Luck with that, It will take Real Life Weeks and be costly but go ahead. Do that, but without nukes!
Rosdivan
27-09-2006, 02:24
I think nukes should for all intents and purposes never be used on the NS forums. I mean, how do you respond to: "And all of your base were turned to glass!"
By not going to war in the first place. If someone says "Invade and I invoke MAD," are you going to whine that they nuked you when you landed troops ont heir soil?
But you Won't. Its cheap and unfair. He can also do the same. Its more fun and still possible to beat him the regular way
Actually, with all the godmodding, wank, and piss-poor RP that Blackhelm has demonstrated to date, I'd say that nuking him would actually be more fun.
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:24
Yes, but if he continues to use tactics that Blackhelm (would the proper abbrev. be BH?) views as n00bish, Blackhelm will continue to ignore him, giving him no victory.
Abbrev. with BC.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:26
Good Luck with that, It will take Real Life Weeks and be costly but go ahead. Do that, but without nukes!
Did you not understand what I just said? I know destroying his infrastructure will take weeks with conventional arms, that's why I'm doing it with nukes.
:rolleyes:
Errikland
27-09-2006, 02:26
Abbrev. with BC.
That's what I originally put, but decided it didn't make as much sense.
Thanks.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:26
By not going to war in the first place. If someone says "Invade and I invoke MAD," are you going to whine that they nuked you when you landed troops ont heir soil?
Actually, with all the godmodding, wank, and piss-poor RP that Blackhelm has demonstrated to date, I'd say that nuking him would actually be more fun.
If you want better Rping etc. Play with the bigger players then. And he doesnt godmod, and I probaly Wank just as much as him. Which isnt much at all.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:27
Did you not understand what I just said? I know destroying his infrastructure will take weeks with conventional arms, that's why I'm doing it with nukes.
:rolleyes:
Key word: Nukes.
Nukes don't work well with NS.
You could use them if regular arms werent working, but you would need to that for a week before you could get away with small tac nukes
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:28
[QUOTE=Rosdivan;11737537]By not going to war in the first place. If someone says "Invade and I invoke MAD," are you going to whine that they nuked you when you landed troops ont heir soil?
[\QUOTE]
Well, assuming they invaded me (i have yet to invade any nation and don't plan to, for now) and I'm not ignoring them because I find not ignoreing attacks to be good rping, what do I do if they nuke me before their troops even reach the shore? The whole point of rping is to have fun, wheres the fun in "and all your base were turned to glass" before I even do anything?
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:28
Key word: Nukes.
Nukes don't work well with NS.
You could use them if regular arms werent working, but you would need to that for a week before you could get away with small tac nukes
Uh, no. Sorry, but who are you to tell me how to use MY Nuclear Stockpile?
Rosdivan
27-09-2006, 02:29
If you want better Rping etc. Play with the bigger players then.
Notice how I haven't actually done any RPing in this stuff?
And he doesnt godmod, and I probaly Wank just as much as him. Which isnt much at all.
HAHAHA! He godmods like there's no tomorrow, it's hilarious. Or do you think that those über Folland Gnats are a legitimate development of an aircraft?
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:29
Uh, no. Sorry, but who are you to tell me how to use MY Nuclear Stockpile?
No, but the NS Community can.
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:30
No, but the NS Community can.
No they can't, they can only ignore him, but that would be such a huge effort...
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:30
Notice how I haven't actually done any RPing in this stuff?
HAHAHA! He godmods like there's no tomorrow, it's hilarious. Or do you think that those über Folland Gnats are a legitimate development of an aircraft?
Whatever. He godmods way less than some people. Maybe alot to you. But no compared to what ive seen. He takes losses at least
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 02:31
I’m tried of repeating my self. I’m saying this one more time. Nukes equal cheater weapons!
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:31
No they can't, they can only ignore him, but that would be such a huge effort...
When have you seen a good Rp with nukes? it just degrades to people squabbling and bickering
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:32
I’m tried of repeating my self. I’m saying this one more time. Nukes equal cheater weapons!
All military tactics aim at putting your enemy at a disadvantage. Thus, warfare in and of it self is full of cheating.
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:32
Well, if you're not going to settle with the much more fun "Nukes shouldn't be used on NS." How 'bout "Nukes should only be used as a last ditch effort." that way you atleast get a good 20 pages of rping in before you "glass all your base."
The Infinite Crucible
27-09-2006, 02:33
MY BRAIN IS ASPLODIN!!!!
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:33
When have you seen a good Rp with nukes? it just degrades to people squabbling and bickering
Never, but still, we can't command him to stop.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:34
Well, if you're not going to settle with the much more fun "Nukes shouldn't be used on NS." How 'bout "Nukes should only be used as a last ditch effort." that way you atleast get a good 20 pages of rping in before you "glass all your base."
Nope. I have no "No First Use" policy for my WMDs, which means I can use them when ever I want.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:34
Well, if you're not going to settle with the much more fun "Nukes shouldn't be used on NS." How 'bout "Nukes should only be used as a last ditch effort." that way you atleast get a good 20 pages of rping in before you "glass all your base."
Thats mostly the General Rule. Thats the only time I have seen it
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:35
Nope. I have no "No First Use" policy for my WMDs, which means I can use them when ever I want.
Which means you wouldn't mind if a bunch of people pooled their nuclear arsenal and glassed every square inch of your nation after landing (or even attempting to land) one soldier on your shore?
Purley hypothetical of course.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 02:36
All military tactics aim at putting your enemy at a disadvantage. Thus, warfare in and of it self is full of cheating.
You can put your enemy in a disadvantage using other ways then nukes. All you are doing is making yourself into what you want to kill off. The world is watching your moves, your lovely lady will looks like the female version of Satan for using those nukes or ordering those nukes to fire.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:36
Which means you wouldn't mind if a bunch of people pooled their nuclear arsenal and glassed every square inch of your nation after landing (or even attempting to land) one soldier on your shore?
Purley hypothetical of course.
Hey, if that's what floats your boat.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:37
Nope. I have no "No First Use" policy for my WMDs, which means I can use them when ever I want.
Just to let you know, If you did that to me, I would respond, and your nation would be glass. Then you wouldnt like nuclear weapons.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:38
You can put your enemy in a disadvantage using other ways then nukes. All you are doing is making yourself into what you want to kill off. The world is watching your moves, your lovely lady will looks like the female version of Satan for using those nukes or ordering those nukes to fire.
I fail to see what relevance that has to anything.
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-09-2006, 02:39
Once again, this only the prelude to my overall invasion plan. I am destroying their infrastructure in a timely and efficient manner. I'm pretty sure Saddam Hussein didn't call Norman Schwarzkopf a n00b when he and the USAF destroyed Iraq's infrastructure in the Gulf War.
So than use your air force.
And Rosdivan, seriously, what is your problem man.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:40
So than use your air force.
And Rosdivan, seriously, what is your problem man.
But to do that, I would have to gain Air Supremacy, or at the very lest, superiority. And that's such a bothersome chore.
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:41
Hey, if that's what floats your boat.
So you would have 0, zilch, nill, absolutely no problem with being effectivly forbidden from using the nation Tocrowkia on the forums anymore?
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:41
But to do that, I would have to gain Air Supremacy, or at the very lest, superiority. And that's such a bothersome chore.
It's called Roleplaying. Everyone Else does it.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 02:41
I fail to see what relevance that has to anything.
You’re making your nation look Hitler’s playground, meaning everybody will be against you later for using nukes to murder civilians that have nothing to do with anything. Do you not see that?
Hell, the Count is looking down on your nation like it was nothing but scums.
Errikland
27-09-2006, 02:42
But to do that, I would have to gain Air Supremacy, or at the very lest, superiority. And that's such a bothersome chore.
The American air force had to gain air sumpremacy in order to do their bombings as well. Admittedly, it was less of a "bothersome chore."
I am trying to keep fairly neutral in the argument . . .
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-09-2006, 02:43
MY BRAIN IS ASPLODIN!!!!
ROFL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH LMAO HAHAHAHAHA
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:44
So you would have 0, zilch, nill, absolutely no problem with being effectivly forbidden from using the nation Tocrowkia on the forums anymore?
Oh, I'd have a problem with it, and I would try and destroy as many missiles as possible.
It's called Roleplaying. Everyone Else does it.
They sure do. And that nuke post was Roleplaying.
You’re making your nation look Hitler’s playground, meaning everybody will be against you later for using nukes to murder civilians that have nothing to do with anything. Do you not see that?
Hell, the Count is looking down on your nation like it was nothing but scums.
Oh well.
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:48
Oh, I'd have a problem with it, and I would try and destroy as many missiles as possible.
But you wouldn't have an OOC problem with being attacked like that?
Tyrandis
27-09-2006, 02:48
Concerning the use of nukes, no one really cares unless they degrade the quality of the RP. WMD in NS is like MSG - a little in moderation spices things up a bit, but too much and the customers start vomiting and demanding refunds.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:49
But you wouldn't have an OOC problem with being attacked like that?
Nope.
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 02:53
Nope.
Sounds good then; I would have a problem with that though. Gang-nuking someone just doesn't seem very fun. How long of an rp would that be?
Invader: A single man landed on your shore.
Defender: We shot him dead.
Invader: We nuke all you base with many many bomb.
Defender: Dough!
The Voice of Reason: That was fun. *drowns in pool of sarcasm*
Oooh, lots of fun! See my point?
Errikland
27-09-2006, 02:56
Sounds good then; I would have a problem with that though. Gang-nuking someone just doesn't seem very fun. How long of an rp would that be?
Invader: A single man landed on your shore.
Defender: We shot him dead.
Invader: We nuke all you base with many many bomb.
Defender: Dough!
The Voice of Reason: That was fun. *drowns in pool of sarcasm*
Oooh, lots of fun! See my point?
Wow. That sounds like so much fun it almost makes me want to break neutrality and betray my ally to do it. *uses snorkel to survive sarcasm pool*
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:56
Sounds good then; I would have a problem with that though. Gang-nuking someone just doesn't seem very fun. How long of an rp would that be?
Invader: A single man landed on your shore.
Defender: We shot him dead.
Invader: We nuke all you base with many many bomb.
Defender: Dough!
The Voice of Reason: That was fun. *drowns in pool of sarcasm*
Oooh, lots of fun! See my point?
I'm only destroying one god damn city, not the whole nation.
The PeoplesFreedom
27-09-2006, 02:57
which leads to another city, which leads to another nuclear response et certa
Tyrandis
27-09-2006, 02:58
I thought this was called a particle cannon.
Charged particle = ion
Other than that, Toc - IRC please. (Use windows.esper.net) I need to work something out regarding my bomber sorties.
Tocrowkia
27-09-2006, 02:59
which leads to another city, which leads to another nuclear response et certa
Excuse me, but I seem to have lost my bottle of "Care".
[NS]Zukariaa
27-09-2006, 03:00
Wow. That sounds like so much fun it almost makes me want to break neutrality and betray my ally to do it. *uses snorkel to survive sarcasm pool*
You want to get pwned Errik? XD
Don't you dare join this war against me. :p
Errikland
27-09-2006, 03:12
Zukariaa;11737830']You want to get pwned Errik? XD
Don't you dare join this war against me. :p
We are allies, and there are great Errikan investments in Griffincrest (and vise versa). Joining against you would be un-Errikan. Then again, we have associates on the otherside as well, so cannot directly assist you. At this point, we are content to watch.
W00T!
Wanderjar
27-09-2006, 03:14
Zukariaa;11737830']You want to get pwned Errik? XD
Don't you dare join this war against me. :p
Zukariaa!! Why did you attack the GASN mate???
Jaredcohenia
27-09-2006, 03:15
We are allies, and there are great Errikan investments in Griffincrest (and vise versa). Joining against you would be un-Errikan. Then again, we have associates on the otherside as well, so cannot directly assist you. At this point, we are content to watch.
W00T!
Errik, do you have your MSN working yet?
Tyrandis
27-09-2006, 03:17
For simplicity's sake, this is what I will be using in my future bomber sorties:
SB-22 Sariel Advanced Strategic Bomber (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=484971)
Also - posted in our RP, Tocrowkia.
[NS]Zukariaa
27-09-2006, 03:28
Zukariaa!! Why did you attack the GASN mate???
I've explained several times. The people from GASN who are involved are completely ignoring the point of the GASN. It is the Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations. We are supposed to defend the sovereignity of nations everywhere.
Then Undershi calls for a peaceful way out of the war. Since part of the reason for GASN is existing is to defend the sovereignity of a nation, it is obligated to accept such a call for peace no matter who it is from.
And then there is the fact that you are invading an entire nation to take down a corporation. That makes no sense!
If were all going to godmod and wank and generally irritate each other with overpowered and ignored attacks, can I join in the fun and start pulling everyone's fleets under, and destroy everyone including Blackhelm with orbital bombardment? Please? I promise to make it the wankiest most godmodded post ever to cross the forums of NS since the early days of Sephiroth.
The above post has been written with a heavy degree of sarcasm and humor.
Sarcasm, for when you want to lay it on thick (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/Rahegalhoff/LayItOnThick.jpg)
The Infinite Crucible
27-09-2006, 04:33
Hey, sometime tonight Blackhelm, I know you are very busy, can you just respond to my counter attack on your stealth ships, I just want to be able to push towards shore and being the real battle some time tommorrow.
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-09-2006, 04:38
Hey, sometime tonight Blackhelm, I know you are very busy, can you just respond to my counter attack on your stealth ships, I just want to be able to push towards shore and being the real battle some time tommorrow.
Forgot about that. I'll post it now.
Hurtful Thoughts
27-09-2006, 07:21
PROHT declares war on CA terrorists (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501220)
Need I type more here?
I suggest subsidiary links be placed in the first post of Main OOC thread for easy viewing of various fronts.
why was he nuke his own people?
Because he had a crazy God-Emperor who was trying to cleanse the wicked from his own borders.
Just a quick clarification…
At that rather turbulent point in history, the Xirniumite monarch (until then a purely ceremonial head of state) had only just recently launched an abortive coup d'état attempt to wrest away power from the democratic Parliament. The Parliamentarians were thus, at that point in time, busy in the process of ruthlessly putting down the uprising, and total defeat for the royalists was imminent. In desperation, the monarch tried to obtain non-conventional weaponry in the hope that this might perhaps turn back the tide of defeat.
The monarch’s plan was quite unsuccessful, however. Very soon thereafter the revolt was utterly crushed, the emperor executed for high treason, and the constitutional monarchy finally abolished.
Apologies for the minor digression... do carry on.
You'll have to contend with both Kraven and Pudite fleets, if it is naval war you want...
And none of you have every seen me deploy even a fraction of my forces at once. At the height of the Chitzeland war I still only had a few hundred ships in action...
And the Yallakian Fleet too, the same fleet that defeated the Kraven fleet itself.
Deserted Territories
27-09-2006, 12:01
So, exactly how outta control is this whole affair right now?
Zukariaa;11737950']I've explained several times. The people from GASN who are involved are completely ignoring the point of the GASN. It is the Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations. We are supposed to defend the sovereignity of nations everywhere.
Then Undershi calls for a peaceful way out of the war. Since part of the reason for GASN is existing is to defend the sovereignity of a nation, it is obligated to accept such a call for peace no matter who it is from.
And then there is the fact that you are invading an entire nation to take down a corporation. That makes no sense!
Okay, now that I've gotten my head straight, I want to apologize to you Zukariaa. My offensive is not towards you, least not anymore. I shall try and push peace...
Clandonia Prime
27-09-2006, 20:25
The thing about nukes, Blackhelm totally glassed me for some unknown reason when all I did was launch a few at a country that Griffenfest had 'assets' in now I don't get that, because I'm in alliances my allies rush to my aid and counter attack him, so now he ignores it. Hmm not fair?
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 20:30
So, exactly how outta control is this whole affair right now?
A whole lot, from what I see.
Everyone, let's stop this whole damn war and let's talk about peace! I've had it! We are superpowers for Christ's sake! There are far greater things to do than kill eachother over differences of opinion!
Everyone, let's stop this whole damn war and let's talk about peace! I've had it! We are superpowers for Christ's sake! There are far greater things to do than kill eachother over differences of opinion!
If you like, I could use my powers of magick, and transport you all to a place where you can't harm each other or kill each other and force you to stay there until a reasonable peace agreement is worked out. I might take a few hours of fighting and making no progress to get to the point of a peace agreement, but it would work.
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 20:41
If you like, I could use my powers of magick, and transport you all to a place where you can't harm each other or kill each other and force you to stay there until a reasonable peace agreement is worked out. I might take a few hours of fighting and making no progress to get to the point of a peace agreement, but it would work.
No peace would come of us, I promise you that. Peace will only be an option when all enemy forces are quite and fully eliminated.
If you like, I could use my powers of magick, and transport you all to a place where you can't harm each other or kill each other and force you to stay there until a reasonable peace agreement is worked out. I might take a few hours of fighting and making no progress to get to the point of a peace agreement, but it would work.
That would work, but it would completely annihlate the whole "realism" portion of it. Anyways, I want peace. That is what Sovereignty is about, is it not?
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 20:45
That would work, but it would completely annihlate the whole "realism" portion of it.
That too...
That too...
Pudu, you have ties in the Dominion do you not?
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 21:19
Pudu, you have ties in the Dominion do you not?
Which Dominion?
Which Dominion?
I thought it was "The Dominion". :eek:
Anyways, I'm getting irritated with how many times these servers crash!!! GRR!
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 21:39
I thought it was "The Dominion". :eek:
Anyways, I'm getting irritated with how many times these servers crash!!! GRR!
I am "The Dominion", so of course I have ties with myself!
Other than that, I know of no Dominion's I would have ties with...
I am "The Dominion", so of course I have ties with myself!
Other than that, I know of no Dominion's I would have ties with...
Ah. From other players I know, "The Dominion" sounds as if it's an alliance or something. -chuckles-
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 21:47
Ah. From other players I know, "The Dominion" sounds as if it's an alliance or something. -chuckles-
Nope, not an alliance. I just go by “The Dominion” over The Transylvania IC.
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 21:48
Ah. From other players I know, "The Dominion" sounds as if it's an alliance or something. -chuckles-
Other people, like DMG and the Transylvania and such, also call themselves "The Dominion", so maybe it could seem that way... but it's not. Also, I've probably been around longer and was using it before them, so... yeah.
The Dominion of Emperor Pudu is not one for international alliances.
-Laughs-
Wow, you guys should have a mock fight over the title of "The Dominion". I'll bring the popcorn!
Anyways, I'm trying to think of a title for Dephire. "United Republic" just isn't cutting it. It's nice, but makes it seem as if I'm a full on democratic loser!
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 21:59
-Laughs-
Wow, you guys should have a mock fight over the title of "The Dominion". I'll bring the popcorn!
Anyways, I'm trying to think of a title for Dephire. "United Republic" just isn't cutting it. It's nice, but makes it seem as if I'm a full on democratic loser!
Yeah... What with Transylvania's Gholgoth buddies, I think I may have to re-name myself...
I'd fight them anyway though, to do otherwise would break character.
Yeah... What with Transylvania's Gholgoth buddies, I think I may have to re-name myself...
I'd fight them anyway though, to do otherwise would break character.
Nah, I was more so meaning a one-on-one fight...like an arena. Not a full scale war.
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 22:00
Says through persped lips while trying to shake out the sourness of the lemon.
"I was more so speaking to my own allies considering they are the ones on the offensive..."
Nice.
Emporer Pudu
27-09-2006, 22:01
Nah, I was more so meaning a one-on-one fight...like an arena. Not a full scale war.
I have no doubts in my own soldiers in a one-on-one fight against nearly anyone else...
This list would include: Trans, Kraven, and... um... yeah.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 22:03
Yeah... What with Transylvania's Gholgoth buddies, I think I may have to re-name myself...
LOL That was funny, thanks.
Wow. We do make a good comedy act! :cool:
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 22:06
I have no doubts in my own soldiers in a one-on-one fight against nearly anyone else...
This list would include: Trans, Kraven, and... um... yeah.
Kraven’s a Dominion?!? Dude, that something new to me. He is my own real enemy.
Kraven’s a Dominion?!? Dude, that something new to me. He is my own real enemy.
Damn. Well...looks like we have a crap load of Dominions here, eh? I say we draw from a hat...but that's just me.
This is why I would prefer my own name.
Azhujurius
Muhahahahahahahahaha.
The Transylvania
27-09-2006, 22:09
This is why I would prefer my own name.
Azhujurius
Muhahahahahahahahaha.
It’s Jenrak! What’s up, doc?
-Chuckles-
"So, Trans..did you recieve my message? Oh. And...err..we need to make a 'Comedy Group' thread for us comedians."
It’s Jenrak! What’s up, doc?
I'm a doctor now? Cool.
And meh. My life is incredibly hectic, to say the least.
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-09-2006, 22:16
The thing about nukes, Blackhelm totally glassed me for some unknown reason when all I did was launch a few at a country that Griffenfest had 'assets' in now I don't get that, because I'm in alliances my allies rush to my aid and counter attack him, so now he ignores it. Hmm not fair?
How dumb are you. Like are you seriously retarded? You nuked Blainesville after I firebombed you. Idiot.
Clandonia Prime
27-09-2006, 22:18
How dumb are you. Like are you seriously retarded? You nuked Blainesville after I firebombed you. Idiot.
Err you used chemical tipped scuds as well, idiot.
Stop it! Jeeze, we were having fun!!! GRR!!!
Alright, look at my proposals for peace on the damn thread. I'm sick of this fighting.