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When Blackhelm beats the world cause he is that good OOC

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Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 05:04
OOC for Global Retribution. TPF, you cant have that big of a loadout man.
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 05:05
So how many bombers do you still have?
The PeoplesFreedom
25-09-2006, 05:05
funny name.
800, im off for the nite
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 05:06
ROFLMAO!

I'm diggin' the title man.
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 05:07
ROFLMAO!

I'm diggin' the title man.

lol, thanks

800!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You started with 1000 and lost 300 right off the bat.
The Infinite Crucible
25-09-2006, 05:07
Thanks for the OOC, we needed it. Although the title needs work. :D
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 05:08
Thanks for the OOC, we needed it. Although the title needs work. :D

It was getting way to cluttered with OOC arguing. And about the title, we will see....:)
Whyatica
25-09-2006, 05:08
hmm Blackhelm, perhaps a weapons deal is in order? You are essentially fighting the world, and Whyatican arms could come in handy...
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 05:09
hmm Blackhelm, perhaps a weapons deal is in order? You are essentially fighting the world, and Whyatican arms could come in handy...

Weapons deal! I'll take it, what do you have to sell me?
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 05:09
Blackhelm, do you have AIM?
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 05:10
Blackhelm, do you have AIM?

Yep, I'm Rvann00, you?
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 05:10
Yep, I'm Rvann00, you?

Inquisitor500
The Infinite Crucible
25-09-2006, 05:13
Hitting the snoozers for the night.
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 05:17
ha iam just going to have fun reading this thread
Yallak
25-09-2006, 05:19
hmm Blackhelm, perhaps a weapons deal is in order? You are essentially fighting the world, and Whyatican arms could come in handy...

So could a whoping big ally!
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 05:21
So could a whoping big ally!

Yallak...will you be my ally:(
Yallak
25-09-2006, 05:29
Possibly...

Is it MT??
[NS]Zukariaa
25-09-2006, 05:31
'ey! Blackhelm! y dunt u ansar me on aim? :(
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 05:36
Yallak, yea, its MT, but I am thinkin I will bring in an FT ally. Ive been allied with him since my last nation, so feel free to use whatever.
Hurtful Thoughts
25-09-2006, 05:38
Griff/Black, I'm blowing up your airfields shortly...

<<OXOXO>>
Whyatica
25-09-2006, 05:39
Everything from small arms to command battleships. I'll compile a list of stuff sometime tonight or tomorrow and TG it to you.
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 05:39
Griff/Black, I'm blowing up your airfields shortly...

<<OXOXO>>

ROFLMAO!!!!
Whyatica
25-09-2006, 05:39
Yallak, yea, its MT, but I am thinkin I will bring in an FT ally. Ive been allied with him since my last nation, so feel free to use whatever.

Oh yes: Using an FT ally will cut off Whyatican support simply because FT cannot exist in MT, by definition.
Tocrowkia
25-09-2006, 05:39
Okay, where the hell are my forces? What's happened to them?
Yallak
25-09-2006, 05:42
Cool, I'm MT it's MT so all is well...

Ok, being that i'm majorly bored at the moment i'll help but to not go against the ICness of Yallak (which is an semi-isolationist nation), BC will either need to send a direct request for help to the Imperial Government or join the Infinite Empire...
The Scandinvans
25-09-2006, 05:42
Guess, what if the title you have given comes true then I can use a funny technicality which absolves my nations of all blame because the Church in my country is a separate nation and they are the ones who are behind the Crusade, but since the Church is the one who support it yet they are not the ones to enact so they are hard to blame. As well, all the soldiers are in uniform fighting so this can be interpreted in any number of ways. As well, Crown Prince Reginald can be considered a do not kill character since he will not be in the front lines decimating your soldiers as a god mod, so I think it can work out he cannot be captured or killed if that is alright with you?
The Scandinvans
25-09-2006, 05:44
Yallak, yea, its MT, but I am thinkin I will bring in an FT ally. Ive been allied with him since my last nation, so feel free to use whatever.Alright, if this foes FT I want to bring in my Eternals.
Hurtful Thoughts
25-09-2006, 05:53
ROFLMAO!!!!

<<OXOXO>> was the detonation code...
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 05:55
<<OXOXO>> was the detonation code...

Oh...I thought it meant the other OXOXO
Hurtful Thoughts
25-09-2006, 06:02
Oh...I thought it meant the other OXOXO

Why else do you think I picked that as the detonation code?

So that I could send it to my men in 'love letters' and 'printer errors'.
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 06:05
Why else do you think I picked that as the detonation code?

So that I could send it to my men in 'love letters' and 'printer errors'.

No, I thought you were being a smart ass by saying

"Griff/Black, I'm blowing up your airfields shortly..."

and adding a sarcastic love remark
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 06:20
Alright Yallak, request sent.
Clandonia Prime
25-09-2006, 16:01
Blackhelm, I'm thinking of ignoring your nuclear strikes on me if you ignore my allies because of how they retaliated on you after the attack on me. Your not playing fairly otherwise.
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 16:17
Why else do you think I picked that as the detonation code?

So that I could send it to my men in 'love letters' and 'printer errors'.

No, I thought you were being a smart ass by saying

"Griff/Black, I'm blowing up your airfields shortly..."

and adding a sarcastic love remark

OOC thats the fun i was on about
Mationbuds
25-09-2006, 16:19
OOC :
Yea . Hey Blackhelm , just cuz I have more pretty missiles than you and use a margin more of them on you and one of your 'associate' , more sort of puppet state and you never posted damage for them .

If you keep on ignoring all my small tactical strikes , I will call a full scale strike . Hahas . Aw come on , on a lighter tone , just post damage .
Clandonia Prime
25-09-2006, 17:11
Exactly Mationbuds.
The Infinite Crucible
25-09-2006, 17:25
I would like a bit of damage taken from my strikes as well, at the very latest make sure that the next IC post that involves me in any way has your damage taken.
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 19:24
About the FT ally thing, lets get this cleared up, especially since I'M the one who offered to help him.

The leaders of my nation and the leaders of his, not the corporation, the nation, are friends, via the International Empires Club. Currently, because I also use magic, I have a Flying Continent just wandering the skies of Earth, but that's only secondary to my point, because that's what I'm using as an IC eye on events. A war I figure, out to be big enough and public enough for me to see. and since BC is getting attacked on so many fronts in so many threads, I figure, I should be able to know of it.

Now, back to the firendship thing, my offer, via tg, was to come in and physicly remove his nation from earth temporarily, and provide him safe haven to lay low. But Remember, that doesn't neccessarily mean he's in my nation... Now, just as soon as BC gives me the word, I'm going to take him away.
Hataria
25-09-2006, 19:35
Ri-an: who are you allied with?
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 19:42
About the FT ally thing, lets get this cleared up, especially since I'M the one who offered to help him.

The leaders of my nation and the leaders of his, not the corporation, the nation, are friends, via the International Empires Club. Currently, because I also use magic, I have a Flying Continent just wandering the skies of Earth, but that's only secondary to my point, because that's what I'm using as an IC eye on events. A war I figure, out to be big enough and public enough for me to see. and since BC is getting attacked on so many fronts in so many threads, I figure, I should be able to know of it.

Now, back to the firendship thing, my offer, via tg, was to come in and physicly remove his nation from earth temporarily, and provide him safe haven to lay low. But Remember, that doesn't neccessarily mean he's in my nation... Now, just as soon as BC gives me the word, I'm going to take him away.
OOC
speck of the International Empires Club with all the wars that Blackhelm Confederacy in.
whats the plan if the city its in gets bomb in one of them
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 19:43
Ri-an: who are you allied with?

Blackhelm confederacy of course. The nation, not the corporation.
The Aeson
25-09-2006, 19:45
About the FT ally thing, lets get this cleared up, especially since I'M the one who offered to help him.

The leaders of my nation and the leaders of his, not the corporation, the nation, are friends, via the International Empires Club. Currently, because I also use magic, I have a Flying Continent just wandering the skies of Earth, but that's only secondary to my point, because that's what I'm using as an IC eye on events. A war I figure, out to be big enough and public enough for me to see. and since BC is getting attacked on so many fronts in so many threads, I figure, I should be able to know of it.

Now, back to the firendship thing, my offer, via tg, was to come in and physicly remove his nation from earth temporarily, and provide him safe haven to lay low. But Remember, that doesn't neccessarily mean he's in my nation... Now, just as soon as BC gives me the word, I'm going to take him away.

Er...

No offense or anything, but that does sound a bit like a tech-wank.
The Kraven Corporation
25-09-2006, 19:48
Just pointing people in the direction of my 48 hour deadline for forces attacking Blackhelm to withdraw, Blackhelm asked me to help him and so I'm getting involved... :)
The Aeson
25-09-2006, 19:50
Just pointing people in the direction of my 48 hour deadline for forces attacking Blackhelm to withdraw, Blackhelm asked me to help him and so I'm getting involved... :)

What about the CP revolution?

Which reminds me, that thing in Mer de Ennuis, is it going anywhere?
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 19:53
Blackhelm, many of the nations you are even now fighting are enemies of the Dominion. And, with our recent major war coming to an end, I am extending an offer of assistance.
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 19:59
Er...

No offense or anything, but that does sound a bit like a tech-wank.

Well, maybe, but I was thinking ICly, and giving it ooc definition, Thats probably where the entire problem arises.
The Kraven Corporation
25-09-2006, 20:01
What about the CP revolution?

Which reminds me, that thing in Mer de Ennuis, is it going anywhere?

OOC at begining of post will explain..
The Aeson
25-09-2006, 20:06
Well, maybe, but I was thinking ICly, and giving it ooc definition, Thats probably where the entire problem arises.

We-el, again, no offense, but I am having a bit of trouble imagining a situation where it wouldn't be a tech wank to have a nation swoop down out of the sky (literally) and yank an MT nation out of danger...

This isn't meant to offend Germans, or Japanese, or Wicca, because I respect them, really, I do.
The Infinite Crucible
25-09-2006, 20:15
Oh now, the scales are evening out, this war may be a challenge. :p

Good to see you Kraven, I loved RP'ing with you before.

However, this RP seems to be shifting from MT to PMT as hataria is using PMT and I know Kraven uses PMT. Also with the usage of railguns by BC, I think I may have to revise my forces to the PMT variety. What do you guys think?

Also, someone post a list of nations on each side por favor.
Otagia
25-09-2006, 20:22
However, this RP seems to be shifting from MT to PMT as hataria is using PMT and I know Kraven uses PMT. Also with the usage of railguns by BC, I think I may have to revise my forces to the PMT variety. What do you guys think?

Well, I think the Solar Sailer tipped the balance. :rolleyes:

Anyway, might have a more active stance on this conflict shortly. We'll see...
The Infinite Crucible
25-09-2006, 20:26
Well, I think the Solar Sailer tipped the balance. :rolleyes:

Anyway, might have a more active stance on this conflict shortly. We'll see...

I dont know what other people think, but I think... I think it is pretty even right now. So by all means join, but try to get someone to join the other side of comparable strength if you do. However, it is more up to Blackhelm.
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 20:33
We-el, again, no offense, but I am having a bit of trouble imagining a situation where it wouldn't be a tech wank to have a nation swoop down out of the sky (literally) and yank an MT nation out of danger...

There's many ways I can do it. with a bit of planning, We can make it seem like an unexplained mystery, like Amelia Airhart's disapearence.
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 20:37
Yeah, a list of combatants for both sides would be great here.

From what I gather Blackhelm is a little outnumbered (although before I posted I noticed Yallak and Kraven getting in on it), but that's all I know about the war I am preparing to enter, save for the fact that I get to try and tear down the GASN...
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 20:38
Blackhelm, many of the nations you are even now fighting are enemies of the Dominion. And, with our recent major war coming to an end, I am extending an offer of assistance.

With Kraven, Pudu, and myself offering aid to you, it seems you have some big boys on your side now eh?
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 20:39
Jesus, I never thought I'd see the day I was on the same side as Pudu for anything....
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 20:41
Jesus, I never thought I'd see the day I was on the same side as Pudu for anything....

Cough... sputter, sputter... ummm...

Wow.
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 20:43
Jesus, I never thought I'd see the day I was on the same side as Pudu for anything....

Woah... I gotta find the guy that was in charge of assaulting your airfield in Chitzeland and put him in charge of this operation!
Dephire
25-09-2006, 20:46
Blackhelm: Very tiny nation

Dephire, Wanderjar, Cravan, Shatzbotdom, New Ausha, other nations: Holy shit.
The Aeson
25-09-2006, 20:48
There's many ways I can do it. with a bit of planning, We can make it seem like an unexplained mystery, like Amelia Airhart's disapearence.

I mean, if you just yank the leader of the country out that's different, but there's a bit of difference between a pilot disappearing midflight and a country disappearing midwar.
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 20:52
Woah... I gotta find the guy that was in charge of assaulting your airfield in Chitzeland and put him in charge of this operation!

lol, I think you like that Regieme change I had!
Shazbotdom
25-09-2006, 20:52
Blackhelm: Very tiny nation

Dephire, Wanderjar, Cravan, Shatzbotdom, New Ausha, other nations: Holy shit.

I'm not invading Blackhelm though. So don't count me into that equasion...
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 20:54
Someone should compile some sort of hub for all the tiny little threads dealing with this war;

Hataria's whatever against Undershi...

New Ausha getting pwned...

Fighting in Blackhelm itself...

and this OOC block, and almost definitely some more threads I haven't bumbled into yet.
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 20:54
I mean, if you just yank the leader of the country out that's different, but there's a bit of difference between a pilot disappearing midflight and a country disappearing midwar.

Really, this segment depends on BC. I have very many options, including sending in my Alien ground forces. But with all these other people coming in as well, He migt just very well have me hold on and see how things progress.

It will all depend on Blackhelm to make the appropriate IC actions to make it all seem logical.
Dephire
25-09-2006, 20:55
What it was meaning was that he shouldn't mess with the GASN anyways. I wasn't saying that anyone was fighting him, just that we could take him if we had the chance.
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 20:56
lol, I think you like that Regieme change I had!

Nobody in my nation would know anything about your regime change, save for some intelligent 42nd division guys, the Merchant caste, and the Emperor himself...

Not that my officers carry grudges... but...
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 21:04
there may be a hell of a lot of nukes flying same day
Tocrowkia
25-09-2006, 21:05
Um, no. I will ignore any tech-wank. That includes any floating islands. And I will resort to tactical nukes against Kraven. That is all.
Dephire
25-09-2006, 21:06
Wanderjar better see what's best for him, because ICly the GASN might see him as aggressing against other GASN members and will be ejected from the GASN. Thus being deemed an enemy of both GASN and ADAN.
The Kraven Corporation
25-09-2006, 21:08
Um, no. I will ignore any tech-wank. That includes any floating islands. And I will resort to tactical nukes against Kraven. That is all.

Using nukes will Bring about the Kraven WMD Doctrine, as used against The Aseon, just a letting you know, before you decide to use them :)
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 21:09
Wanderjar better see what's best for him, because ICly the GASN might see him as aggressing against other GASN members and will be ejected from the GASN. Thus being deemed an enemy of both GASN and ADAN.

I had a counter coup in my nation and put Baker back. However, I still say I could've taken you ;)
Northford
25-09-2006, 21:09
there may be a hell of a lot of nukes flying same day

....yeh, I agree.
Tocrowkia
25-09-2006, 21:10
Using nukes will Bring about the Kraven WMD Doctrine, as used against The Aseon, just a letting you know, before you decide to use them :)

Well, good luck getting past my 15,000 or so ABM defenses. Including satellite laser systems, interceptor Rail Guns, air born lasers, and of course, interceptor missiles.
The Kraven Corporation
25-09-2006, 21:11
Well, good luck getting past my 15,000 or so ABM defenses. Including satellite laser systems, interceptor Rail Guns, air born lasers, and of course, interceptor missiles.

We'll see if it resorts to slinging Nukes around
Liberated New Ireland
25-09-2006, 21:11
I had a counter coup in my nation and put Baker back.

When was this?
Dephire
25-09-2006, 21:13
I had a counter coup in my nation and put Baker back. However, I still say I could've taken you ;)

You take me?
Wow. Little guy versus the giant. Kinda creepy actually.
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 21:14
I had a counter coup in my nation and put Baker back. However, I still say I could've taken you ;)

Well, now I don't have to make General Romil fight alongside Wanderjarians, but he may now have to fight them...

Yeah, General Romil was the soldier I put in charge of the airfield thing. I had to go all the way back there and check, but I found him!
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 21:15
a bad hair day go wrong

i think i just go sell my cold fusion power plants door to door on mars or pluto
The Kraven Corporation
25-09-2006, 21:16
You take me?
Wow. Little guy versus the giant. Kinda creepy actually.

I don't use the Economic Statistics of my nation as it doesn't accurately portray how I've built up my nation IC'ly, I only use the Population of my nation, the rest is all storylines and description, if you count all of the nations that have been subjugated and brought into my control,

Whyatica
Zukariaa
Concremo (Even though I forgot about the nation and it got deleted, its still part of my storylines)
Numonica

Although I no longer have the assets of Axis Nova, I still maintain my War Machine quite effectively...

Also, I don't bother with Issues, I've turned them off because they got annoying very fast, I haven't done an issue for around 7 months now I belive..
Dephire
25-09-2006, 21:17
Hmm. Pudu, you may prove useful in assisting Dephire though.

Also, I still stand on that of which I said, WJ.

You would be fighting 10-1, ten being my forces.

I have a much higher defense budget, thus more money goes into my military so that I can afford big pretty things like Capitol-Ranked Sub-Supercarrier Flagships! And the DCRC! Can't forget those!
Liberated New Ireland
25-09-2006, 21:20
I don't use the Economic Statistics of my nation as it doesn't accurately portray how I've built up my nation IC'ly, I only use the Population of my nation, the rest is all storylines and description, if you count all of the nations that have been subjugated and brought into my control,

Whyatica
Zukariaa
Concremo (Even though I forgot about the nation and it got deleted, its still part of my storylines)
Numonica

Although I no longer have the assets of Axis Nova, I still maintain my War Machine quite effectively...

Also, I don't bother with Issues, I've turned them off because they got annoying very fast, I haven't done an issue for around 7 months now I belive..
...I don't think he was talking to you...
Dephire
25-09-2006, 21:22
...I don't think he was talking to you...

I think he was referring to the message I sent him on the IC thread.
The Kraven Corporation
25-09-2006, 21:22
...I don't think he was talking to you...

I know, I was quoting him so he knows that I'm talking to Him... it was an OOC response to an IC statement
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 21:23
You take me?
Wow. Little guy versus the giant. Kinda creepy actually.

I may not be as big as you, but I make up for it in tactical expertise. You kill one of my men, I'd kill twenty of yours.

Why are we having this argument, we're allies!
Dephire
25-09-2006, 21:26
I may not be as big as you, but I make up for it in tactical expertise. You kill one of my men, I'd kill twenty of yours.

Why are we having this argument, we're allies!

I'm just trying to have a political debate. -chuckles-

You would probably won if you could somehow afford to conscript every last civilian into the army as a defense. Other than that, BOOM BOOm and your gone.
Cravan
25-09-2006, 21:33
Blackhelm: Very tiny nation

Dephire, Wanderjar, Cravan, Shatzbotdom, New Ausha, other nations: Holy shit.

No time/effort to follow this thread or the forty others, so I'll make it quick. I'm also not invading him. I'm just participating in peace talks, which if they fail I have a legit reason to turn the Confederacy into a plate glass window alongside a few other countries. But really I refuse to take part in these RP's fully simply because so far they aren't that great, no offense intended to any participants. Not naming names, here...
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 21:34
Yes, but I live on a mountainous island chain. It would be extremely costly for you, as you'd have to make constant beach assaults, charge up mountains, and deal with guerrilla troops. See?
The Aeson
25-09-2006, 21:36
I'm just trying to have a political debate. -chuckles-

You would probably won if you could somehow afford to conscript every last civilian into the army as a defense. Other than that, BOOM BOOm and your gone.

Nah. See, by the very definition, fighting a war by sheer numbers tends to take a long time.
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 21:38
me on mars getting way form all the wars

knocks at a door, it opens
"hello sir iam selling cold fusion power plants would you like to buy one"
Tocrowkia
25-09-2006, 21:39
Dephire, Wanderjar, Cravan, Shatzbotdom, New Ausha, other nations: Holy shit.

What about me? D=
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 21:41
Yes, but I live on a mountainous island chain. It would be extremely costly for you, as you'd have to make constant beach assaults, charge up mountains, and deal with guerrilla troops. See?

Bomb the mountains flat!
The Aeson
25-09-2006, 21:42
What about me? D=

I think he's talking GASN.
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 21:42
Bomb the mountains flat!

lol, I planned for that. Their crawling with anti-aircraft guns, and perpetually circuling fighters, interceptors, and naval bombers. Like I said, I don't plan to ever fall.


Note: The circling fighters etc are during wars/expected invasions
Liberated New Ireland
25-09-2006, 21:43
Bomb the mountains flat!

He'd go underground.
The Aeson
25-09-2006, 21:43
He'd go underground.

Meh. I have earthquake bombs. Or I will...

But you didn't hear that!
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 21:44
He'd go underground.

Exactly. Just like the Vietcong.
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 21:46
Um, no. I will ignore any tech-wank. That includes any floating islands.


As I said, that point was secondary and not important. I thought it might be better using that though, rather than something completly unreasonable. I mean after all, who would want to chase blackhelm down and try to kill him before he gets away? Silly me for trying to blend two things together into one and give everyone a chance to get him before he actually disappears, or shoot the silly continent down. I guess when he gives the signal they'll just disappear then.
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 21:46
Exactly. Just like the Vietcong.

oh watch as he cames up behind you like a good vc
Liberated New Ireland
25-09-2006, 21:48
Um, no. I will ignore any tech-wank. That includes any floating islands.

I'm the only one who finds this hilarious?
Clandonia Prime
25-09-2006, 21:49
Well I was a combatant until I was nuked so I'm now out of it, but if Blackhelm dosnt reply to my allies nuking like Mationbuds and others then I will just ignore his saying I shot them down with my uber orbital cannons.
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 21:49
I'm the only one who finds this hilarious?

Nope, I caught that too :D
Tocrowkia
25-09-2006, 21:51
I am confused now. D=
Kamasha
25-09-2006, 21:53
sorry if this has been answered before but im not going to read 7 pages with OCC clutter ;) where can I find the IC?
Cravan
25-09-2006, 21:53
I'm the only one who finds this hilarious?

Islands don't float...
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 21:53
Islands don't float...

Hi Cravan
Liberated New Ireland
25-09-2006, 21:54
Islands don't float...

...uh, yeah, that's half the joke...
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 21:54
Islands don't float...

yup and dont fly to
Liberated New Ireland
25-09-2006, 21:54
sorry if this has been answered before but im not going to read 7 pages with OCC clutter ;) where can I find the IC?

prolly in the IC thread...
Undershi
25-09-2006, 21:55
The Aeson? Whatever happened to that trial we were RPing? We haven't finished it yet.
As for my nation's relationship to the Blackhelm Confederacy... we are currently providing his forces with inteligence and some supplies... although our own armies are currently sitting this one out. So far.
The World Soviet Party
25-09-2006, 22:04
Snip

And Im still trying to get everyone to support my communique instead of Hataria's :D
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 22:06
The Aeson? Whatever happened to that trial we were RPing? We haven't finished it yet.
As for my nation's relationship to the Blackhelm Confederacy... we are currently providing his forces with inteligence and some supplies... although our own armies are currently sitting this one out. So far.

I heard Hataria mumble about invading you.
Clandonia Prime
25-09-2006, 22:18
Well I don't think I've been nuked anymore so I will just re-enter the war with my army of uberness.
The Aeson
25-09-2006, 22:24
The Aeson? Whatever happened to that trial we were RPing? We haven't finished it yet.
As for my nation's relationship to the Blackhelm Confederacy... we are currently providing his forces with inteligence and some supplies... although our own armies are currently sitting this one out. So far.

School man. Sorry. I'll get right on that.
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 22:27
Well I don't think I've been nuked anymore so I will just re-enter the war with my army of uberness.

You have been nuked. Your nation is a radioactive wasteland.
Clandonia Prime
25-09-2006, 22:29
You have been nuked. Your nation is a radioactive wasteland.

No actually my uber shields defended me, it was all a cunning plan. Perhaps you should take your hits when Mationbuds nuked your capital good and proper.
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 22:33
No actually my uber shields defended me, it was all a cunning plan. Perhaps you should take your hits when Mationbuds nuked your capital good and proper.

he do what
hell no my emperor there

*starts to load a gun*
Clandonia Prime
25-09-2006, 22:35
he do what
hell no my emperor there

*starts to load a gun*

Yes Blackhelm nuked my small country, a fellow ADAN and GASN ally to many. Everyone nuke BC in retalition. Come on cravan launch those missiles you were telling me about on msn!
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 22:36
No actually my uber shields defended me, it was all a cunning plan. Perhaps you should take your hits when Mationbuds nuked your capital good and proper.

When did MAtionbuds nuke my capital?
Clandonia Prime
25-09-2006, 22:37
When did MAtionbuds nuke my capital?

Hes done it at least 3 times because you were ignoring it.

In the war thread on Blainsville, the allied invasion of your country twice at least in that thread.
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 22:37
Dephire! Are you fighting against Blackhelm?

Because if you are... trails off...
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 22:40
Hes done it at least 3 times because you were ignoring it.

In the war thread on Blainsville, the allied invasion of your country twice at least in that thread.

Find me that post please.
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 22:44
Alright blackhelm your on. Settle once and for all just what it is you want me to do for sure so we all know and can fight and argue about it incessantly for the next few hours.
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 22:49
*starts to play around with a imperial isa energy bomb*
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 22:51
Well Ri-an, I would appreciate it if you sent some men to help keep the capital safe.
Clandonia Prime
25-09-2006, 22:55
I can't find it now, tried searching but I'm sure Transilvania or Mationbuds launched nukes at your capital. Matiobuds did Blainsville as well.
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 22:56
how would you like

1000 super patriot

1000 60mm AA guns
Northford
25-09-2006, 22:59
Blackhelm, when you've got a chance, send me a map of your country, with continental plates drawn on.

Thanks.

Oh, and, OOCly, I hope you the best of luck keeping your head above all this... There's 3, 4, heck including mine, 5 threads all about removing you from the face of the planet. 'tis going to be bloody hard keeping track of it all, and the times of everything.


How about making the front page of this post the 'situation' in blackhelm at the moment, so everyone can know at what stage the invasions are at?

Would make your life, once it was underway, a lot easier, and make everyone elses too.
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 23:12
OOC: Uh...yea continental plates...yea...about that.
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 23:18
Well Ri-an, I would appreciate it if you sent some men to help keep the capital safe.

Alright. Now, I need a link to the thread. I won't use magick or psionics, probably would have too much problems with it. But my Gareens look human enough to pass. The Aquamarinians will be there too, but staying out of sight. Otherwise, The gareens will go crazy having insuffecient guidance to direct them and destroy anyone and anything in sight.

I've managed, after much difficulty, to teach them to use weapons instead of their bare fists. So they'll be there with old fashioned ammo gns instead of the current energy weapons. Also, they will be dressed, instead of their regular birthday suits. They will be dressed in black suits that inhance their intelligence. Trust me, this is neccessary.

The average Gareen has an intelligence comparible to that of a commmon brick. Newborn humans are smarter. They are however, incredibly strong.

For everyone invading the city...

They can be shot and killed, but not with normal bullets. Use stronger bullets. Normal bullets, it takes 50 or so to take them down. Unless you aim at them in the eyes.

They are also very, very strong. Tank rounds work remarkably well, as does running them over, but the four armed varients are strong enough to lift massive boulders. Fortunatly, there are very few of them.

All this means, is that basic stuff won't work very well.

Blackhelm. Give me a link to the appropriate thread.
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 23:19
A map of any sort would be great, continental plates or not...
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-09-2006, 23:33
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500591&page=19
The thread

http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blackhelmconfederacyfc4.png
The Map
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 23:34
To Blackhelm Confederacy
Imperial Isa here bys gives you
60000 ORF-3B fighter jets
from
Imperial Isa

OOC one change i make the hole plane in titanium

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498537
The World Soviet Party
25-09-2006, 23:37
To Blackhelm Confederacy
Imperial Isa here bys gives you
60000 ORF-3B fighter jets
from
Imperial Isa

OOC one change i make the hole plane in titanium

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498537

Where did you get 60,000 planes made out of Titanium from (which is somewhat expensive)?
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 23:39
OOC one change i make the hole plane in titanium

Titanium is heavy too...
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 23:39
Where did you get 60,000 planes made out of Titanium from (which is somewhat expensive)?

i make them using nano tech and other tech
Ri-an
25-09-2006, 23:41
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500591&page=19
The thread

http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blackhelmconfederacyfc4.png
The Map

Gotta bring me in in that thread ICly. Do like, a radio broadcast or something, aimed at Andromeda.
Crookfur
25-09-2006, 23:44
Imperial isa: And exactly how are they goign to be of any use to him without the tiem required to find and train both the pilots and ground crew such aircraft would require?
Rosdivan
25-09-2006, 23:45
To Blackhelm Confederacy
Imperial Isa here bys gives you
60000 ORF-3B fighter jets
from
Imperial Isa

OOC one change i make the hole plane in titanium

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498537

So in other words, you've demonstrated that you have absolutely no knowledge of aircraft. Then again, given Blackhelm's record with aircraft (Folland Gnats armed with AMRAAMS capable of tracking stealth aircraft? I think not), that seems par for the course.

There's also the question of how you've managed to build that many planes, as well as how you can afford to simply give away close to eight trillion dollars worth of equipment, or even afford to build it given that that's a sum greater than your entire GDP.
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 23:46
i make them using nano tech and other tech

Does not make them not heavy, and nano technology would seem to make it more expensive, not less...
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 23:47
Titanium is heavy too...

is it
i read it weight the same as aluminium
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 23:48
*Whispers to Isa*


Send volunteers!
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 23:49
what you say of the use of clones
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 23:50
what you say of the use of clones

This is MT-PMT, I think clones aren't feasible. But thats just me of course....


Come to think of it though, Pudu's entire population consists of clones...
Rosdivan
25-09-2006, 23:52
is it
i read it weight the same as aluminium

Titanium density: 4.5 g/cm^3
Aluminum density: 2.70 g/cm^3


what you say of the use of clones


To put it mildly, and shortly, stupid as all heck.
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 23:53
Titanium density: 4.5 g/cm^3
Aluminum density: 2.70 g/cm^3



To put it mildly, and shortly, stupid as all heck.


I use clones in Future Tech, but thats it.
Imperial isa
25-09-2006, 23:54
and form star trek i use that food make they have and a copy of it that makes ammo
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 23:56
This is MT-PMT, I think clones aren't feasible. But thats just me of course....


Come to think of it though, Pudu's entire population consists of clones...

No difference from normal people though, just makes it look more unified.
The Kraven Corporation
25-09-2006, 23:56
my Sardaukar are clones, but my loss to Gain ratio is horrific, for every five I produce I loose 3 of them, sometimes I loose entire batches, depends on the genetic stock I'm using at the time, thats why I only ever have around 500,000 Sardaukar at anyone time, they are difficult to produce and are expensive resource wise..
Emporer Pudu
25-09-2006, 23:58
and form star trek i use that food make they have and a copy of it that makes ammo

What??
Wanderjar
25-09-2006, 23:59
No difference from normal people though, just makes it look more unified.

I thought you divided them into classes based on abilities like in Brave New World

"I'm glad that I'm a Beta!"
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:00
then this will get you my clone are supersoldier with vampire/werewolf hybrid genes
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 00:04
Creating specifically modified clones, as Kraven said, is bothersome however. I grow them in batches ranging from two to ninety-six at a time, and even when there are no extra stimuli thrown at them, roughly one out of three batches goes sour... Imagine creating a genetically advanced one...

This is why I have only two-hundred and forty thousand Grazskar at once, and even fewer of the Immortals, usually around twenty-thousand.

Of course... most of the rest of the population has some minor enhancements, but many of these are possible after birth has occurred.
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 00:07
Creating specifically modified clones, as Kraven said, is bothersome however. I grow them in batches ranging from two to ninety-six at a time, and even when there are no extra stimuli thrown at them, roughly one out of three batches goes sour... Imagine creating a genetically advanced one...

This is why I have only two-hundred and forty thousand Grazskar at once, and even fewer of the Immortals, usually around twenty-thousand.

Of course... most of the rest of the population has some minor enhancements, but many of these are possible after birth has occurred.


I have an even better question:

Is there anything at all keeping me from doing the exact same thing?
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:08
What??

i dont know what the called
all i know they ask it for what food they want and the next sec its they
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 00:09
I thought you divided them into classes based on abilities like in Brave New World

"I'm glad that I'm a Beta!"

I do, different Castes receive some slightly different modifications, but they all look the same. Lower castes are less intelligent, but more physically able as compensation.

There is an advantage, but the horrendous cost (if my nation recorded such a thing) equals that bit out...
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 00:10
I have an even better question:

Is there anything at all keeping me from doing the exact same thing?

Money? The fact that you will usually be outnumbered (if you are fighting someone your own size...)

Or, if you want an In Character reason, you don't know how, while I have been researching this crap in character since September 2005...
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 00:11
I do, different Castes receive some slightly different modifications, but they all look the same. Lower castes are less intelligent, but more physically able as compensation.

There is an advantage, but the horrendous cost (if my nation recorded such a thing) equals that bit out...

Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up, I always thought it was rather interesting how you designed your nation.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:12
find the name for it
i use Replicator
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 00:12
Money? The fact that you will usually be outnumbered (if you are fighting someone your own size...)

Money isn't exactly an issue with me, but regardless, I'm content with what I've got (Normal, non-clone soldiers that is ;))
Ri-an
26-09-2006, 00:13
What??

He means Replicators. They have the ability to produce anything from nothing, though that description is not quite right. If you like, I'll go to Star trek's website and get you a link that describes them better.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:15
He means Replicators. They have the ability to produce anything from nothing, though that description is not quite right. If you like, I'll go to Star trek's website and get you a link that describes them better.

thank you

i use cold fusion too
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 00:17
Imperial Isa...? What the hell? This is MT/PMT...not FT...
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 00:19
Money isn't exactly an issue with me, but regardless, I'm content with what I've got (Normal, non-clone soldiers that is ;))

The ones with independant thought and initiative? Yeah, I remember those...
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 00:19
The ones with independant thought and initiative? Yeah, I remember those...

lol
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 00:20
Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up, I always thought it was rather interesting how you designed your nation.

Have you read the factbook? I've been screwing with it for most of the afternoon, and it outlines nearly anything that has anything to do with my nation.

Except my unique way of measuring time... never found a place for that...
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:20
Imperial Isa...? What the hell? This is MT/PMT...not FT...

hey did i say i was given it out?
and no i dont death stars or space ships with lasers
i just have MAC guns
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 00:21
Have you read the factbook?

A long time ago, I just don't remember it. That, and I'm too lazy to read it again ;)
Tocrowkia
26-09-2006, 00:21
hey did i say i was give it out?
and no i dont death stars or space ships with lasers

Titanium Airplanes and Nano Bots sound pretty FT to me. :rolleyes:
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:23
Titanium Airplanes and Nano Bots sound pretty FT to me. :rolleyes:

will good for you
go take same pills for it
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 00:23
hey did i say i was given it out?
and no i dont death stars or space ships with lasers
i just have MAC guns

Space ships are not the only things that define a Future Tech nation...

Things like nano bots and replicators might too...
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 00:25
Isa, other people may be polite about this, however I will make it very simple. Your statements and numbers are god modes both in numbers and tech level. Put simply you will be ignored unless you drastically change what you are bringing to the table.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:28
Isa, other people may be polite about this, however I will make it very simple. Your statements and numbers are god modes both in numbers and tech level. Put simply you will be ignored unless you drastically change what you are bringing to the table.

i think fuck all got to work over my nation
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:31
oh wait i forgot i now have the natons of
helghen1
helghan2
helghan3
all in my hands
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 00:34
oh wait i forgot i now have the natons of
helghen1
helghan2
helghan3
all in my hands

What are you even talking about!
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:35
What are you even talking about!

look up vekta
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 00:43
Look man, I cant even understand what you are saying. I'm sorry. Even if you weren't godmodding I would not be able to keep up an RP with you. Nothing personal.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 00:44
ok i give
60000 super patriot sams for six launchers
600 60mm AA guns
all to guard Paradise City
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 01:21
i all so send
600 F/A110 RAPTOR they just F-22 RAPTOR
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 01:28
look up vekta

Why!

Again, I too find it very dificult to discern your speech and would find it difficult to RP with you, as I have seen in the past...
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 01:31
Why!

Again, I too find it very dificult to discern your speech and would find it difficult to RP with you, as I have seen in the past...

and you just like to kill all who get in you way like a nut case
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:32
and you just like to kill all who get in you way like a nut case

Calm down, breathe, I can help you organize your forces so you can play with us, also for grammer, us a word processor.
Dephire
26-09-2006, 01:34
Pudu, do you use your NS stats in RP? I'm just wondering because people are telling me that they don't. Which completely ruins everything for us that do go by the Statistics. I mean, you can't use what you don't have! Especially if your Defense budget is only a few million! That can't support a fricken ten million man army! Yeah, I'm probably ranting now...
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 01:35
Hey TPF, haven't seen you around here in some while.
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:35
OCC: Just starting Rping again the other day:)
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:36
OCC: Dephy, I use thirdgeek. And most ppl I play with do to.
Dephire
26-09-2006, 01:38
I use Thirdgeek as well, what I'm trying to get at are people like Kraven who think that by having a large population is enough to take over the world. If anyone has done their homework, his economy sucks. Hell, I'm more economically powerful than him! That means I can buy a hell of alot more nice things!
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 01:38
Calm down, breathe, I can help you organize your forces so you can play with us, also for grammer, us a word processor.

i have winbows 2000 on a not so up to date pc as may old one dead
that one was up to date

and you should see what he did in iceland thread

and i have same thing that stop me form learning dixs i give up it start with d
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:38
dylsexia or something like that
OCC: yes, have you seen mine? 21 TRILLION =D
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 01:39
dylsexia or something like that

what he said
Dephire
26-09-2006, 01:42
dylsexia or something like that
OCC: yes, have you seen mine? 21 TRILLION =D

I envy you. Of course, it's all because I had been neglecting some things. But now that I am finally getting on the 'right' track my economy is ever increasing! Crap, I jumped from 40 trillion to 61 trillion budget overnight!
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 01:44
what gets me is in year 6 the teacher made me and 6 others stand in front of class and say we are dum
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:44
I envy you. Of course, it's all because I had been neglecting some things. But now that I am finally getting on the 'right' track my economy is ever increasing! Crap, I jumped from 40 trillion to 61 trillion budget overnight!

wow!
Funny thing is, I have a bigger Defense Budget than some of the bigger names in NS!
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:45
what gets me is i yaer 6 the teacher made me and 6 other stand in front of class and say we are dum

Thats unacceptable. Dyslexia is a proven Mental Handicap. Sue their pants off.
Dephire
26-09-2006, 01:46
wow!
Funny thing is, I have a bigger Defense Budget than some of the bigger names in NS!

Yeah. Mine should be spiking over Cravan's soon enough. I have the larger population and should have a more powerful economy.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 01:47
Thats unacceptable. Dyslexia is a proven Mental Handicap. Sue their pants off.

happen long ago iam now 23 still find it hard
but i can tell mum and step dad went up and had a go
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:47
Yeah. Mine should be spiking over Cravan's soon enough. I have the larger population and should have a more powerful economy.

:D
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:48
happen long ago iam now 23 still find it hard
but i can tell mum and dad went up and had a go

ya
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 01:51
ya

yup sad to say my step dad has past away i could all way go to him for help
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 01:51
what gets me is in year 6 the teacher made me and 6 others stand in front of class and say we are dum

I would've been pissed man. Thats untrue, as some of the greatest minds in history (Einstein, Edison, etc) were dyslexic
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 01:53
yup sad to say my step dad has past away i could all way go to him for help

I'm sorry:(
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 01:59
I'm sorry:(

thanks
is me or is it getting hard to live
the part army will not have me as i have not a long working back ground and iam not in to sport and but they keep going on that they need man

back to it

with my tech can i have a 600mm gun in a tank
Dephire
26-09-2006, 02:04
:D

I wonder if it's actually possible to challenge Cravan for the throne...lol.
Deserted Territories
26-09-2006, 02:05
It would be a great distraction from life.
Dephire
26-09-2006, 02:06
Wait...why don't we have a bloody Sith Empire on NS?!:mad:
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 02:07
Wait...why don't we have a bloody Sith Empire on NS?!:mad:

lets make it
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 02:08
Wait...why don't we have a bloody Sith Empire on NS?!:mad:

We do. The GE.
Dephire
26-09-2006, 02:09
We do. The GE.

No, I mean an actual Sith Empire. Where we follow the sith law! Everybody wins!!!
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 02:10
Pudu, do you use your NS stats in RP? I'm just wondering because people are telling me that they don't. Which completely ruins everything for us that do go by the Statistics. I mean, you can't use what you don't have! Especially if your Defense budget is only a few million! That can't support a fricken ten million man army! Yeah, I'm probably ranting now...

There are no eventualities set out in the NationStates game for the way my society works.

I'll use the money and stuff... sometimes...

A lot of times, the game believes the economy to suck because of the fact that they cannot register my society.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 02:10
We do. The GE.

ok help me here GE who

is it the post man :)
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 02:12
No, I mean an actual Sith Empire. Where we follow the sith law! Everybody wins!!!

if thats the case i have just killed you and taken power
long live me
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 02:17
We do. The GE.

Not to mention "Unified Sith"...
Dephire
26-09-2006, 02:19
if thats the case i have just killed you and taken power
long live me

What? Oh no you didn't! -kicks Isa-
Emporer Pudu
26-09-2006, 02:20
Also, Isa;

What happened in Iceland: Nothing out of the ordinary. Both Wanderjar and Dephire have watched me work, don't believe that you've witnessed anything abnormal
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 02:23
There are no eventualities set out in the NationStates game for the way my society works.

I'll use the money and stuff... sometimes...

A lot of times, the game believes the economy to suck because of the fact that they cannot register my society.

While all of that is true, you can not step too far out of the bounds of what the basic economy of the game dictates or you risk godmodding. Society or no society, we are bound by a few common rules which help to establish the playing field, the calculated economy being one of those benchmarks. Now I understand deviations based on store fronts, occupied territories, or other circumstances, but vastly boosting your economy beyond its predicted level requires a damn good explanation. However, I know little of how much you have boosted your economy, so I may be talking out of my ass.

Despite this, can you give me a quick run down of your society and how it affects your economy?
Dephire
26-09-2006, 02:27
Whom was that directed to?
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 02:27
Also, Isa;

What happened in Iceland: Nothing out of the ordinary. Both Wanderjar and Dephire have watched me work, don't believe that you've witnessed anything abnormal

sorry to me it sound to much like what happen in world war two
you could have give me money to take them away
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 02:27
Anti-air Defenses of the Blackhelm Confederacy

The outer ring is right on the border, and is well spread out all throughout. Every 300 balloons have interlocking targeting, so one can transfer its target to the next for 300 balloons.

The next is identical to the first ring, but is only cluster of 100 balloons.

Defense three is usually two, sometimes more Trojan II airbourne aircraft carriers, each holding 20 MiG-31's and an impressive missile armament

Line four is a group of four or five Hyperion airships and their escorting fighters, usually SuF-8's or MiG's of varying models

Line five is going to be SAM's. Depending on whose territory you are over it will be more or less difficult. Confederate territory will be defended with Firestorm or Patriot missiles, along with AAD-1 balloons. Griffincrest territory will have either the S-400 or SA-11 on guard. DSAM territory will use SA-11's, -6's, or -2's, along with heavy flak. CWP territory will mostly either use flack or the occasional SA-2.*

Line six is only above cities. Each city has a cluster of AAD-1's to defend it, and the clusters vary in size depending on the city.

*CWP has no real territory other than Angel Bay, which is a tiny village that I put on the map for significance for a past war. They will usually fire without warning as your men pass over the jungle.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 02:28
What? Oh no you didn't! -kicks Isa-

dam you i well get all that power off you same how
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 02:30
Anti-air Defenses of the Blackhelm Confederacy

The outer ring is right on the border, and is well spread out all throughout. Every 300 balloons have interlocking targeting, so one can transfer its target to the next for 300 balloons.

The next is identical to the first ring, but is only cluster of 100 balloons.

Defense three is usually two, sometimes more Trojan II airbourne aircraft carriers, each holding 20 MiG-31's and an impressive missile armament

Line four is a group of four or five Hyperion airships and their escorting fighters, usually SuF-8's or MiG's of varying models

Line five is going to be SAM's. Depending on whose territory you are over it will be more or less difficult. Confederate territory will be defended with Firestorm or Patriot missiles, along with AAD-1 balloons. Griffincrest territory will have either the S-400 or SA-11 on guard. DSAM territory will use SA-11's, -6's, or -2's, along with heavy flak. CWP territory will mostly either use flack or the occasional SA-2.*

Line six is only above cities. Each city has a cluster of AAD-1's to defend it, and the clusters vary in size depending on the city.

*CWP has no real territory other than Angel Bay, which is a tiny village that I put on the map for significance for a past war. They will usually fire without warning as your men pass over the jungle.

and what i have sat up at the club
Dephire
26-09-2006, 02:30
Becomes a nice president.

"Here is your icecream Isa!"
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 02:33
Becomes a nice president.

"Here is your icecream Isa!"

make it two and i go for same other person power
Dephire
26-09-2006, 02:44
-laughs- Alright.
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 02:45
Alright, here are the issues I see with your fleet. Some issues are just based off of poor IC planning, and others are just OOC issues I have.

Alright the OOC issues first.

First things first. The Defiance seems to defy the laws of physics and ship design quite heftily. While I am no expert, a ship should often have a length to width ratio of 9:1 if it wants to move at any great speed, so your carrier is going to be incedibly slow. Beyond that, its over two kilometers long, not even the biggest super dreads are that long and any naval expert on NS will debunk it. This size is only compounded by its ability to submerge itself, overlooking the massive tidal waves this could cause as millions of gallons of water is displaced, wrecking your escorts, a ship of that size is almost impossible to design in a way so as it can submerge. Unless you have a support system like none other created it will implose under the pressure. 1.5km dreads have support issues, yet this ship of almost double that size and submerge... Finally its price would be over the top, in the several trillion for production and likely costing hundreds of billions if not trillions every year to maintain.

I see no big issue with your aegis cruisers, they seem to be a bit numerous but I think it is all legit.

Alright, 250 battleships!? That's a hell of a lot of capital ships, too much as a matter of fact. Capital ships are meant to be in the vast minority.

Your subs are another large source of question. Overlooking their numbers, they are poorly designed. A ballistic missile submarine is often a poor choice as an attack submarine goes. It is far too large and a lot of internal space is taken up by the ICBM's. They would be slaughtered in droves by dedicated attack subs, so this leaves you very vulnerable to submarine assault as you have no other defense.

Finally, 20 super carriers!? That is twenty super capitols, most large fleets have 10, at the most.

I know we are on the same side, but this fleet is over the top in size and composition. Also, stating this is only a small part of your fleet is another god mod, your defense budgest could hardly support this alone ignoring all the other branches of your military. Eighteen trillion USD per year is not enough to fund this fleet.
Dephire
26-09-2006, 02:52
Most of this stuff was already proven feasible in the NS Draftroom.

Yes, I know that the numbers do seem a bit atrocious, but look at all of the other damn morons that say they have ten thousand ships in every battle. I barely have two thousand if that!

The Defiance is just slightly bigger than Quester's Hood. Even though I wanted to keep this classified, it really is three ships in one. One on each side to ballance it, and then the center.
Rosdivan
26-09-2006, 03:04
Most of this stuff was already proven feasible in the NS Draftroom.

The only thing I've seen you post there was that cannon of yours. Your submarine carrier is certainly stupid though.


Yes, I know that the numbers do seem a bit atrocious, but look at all of the other damn morons that say they have ten thousand ships in every battle. I barely have two thousand if that!

Yeah, and they're a heck of a lot bigger than you are. Everyone's been toning down their navy size of late however.


The Defiance is just slightly bigger than Quester's Hood. Even though I wanted to keep this classified, it really is three ships in one. One on each side to ballance it, and then the center.

Dude, I'm so going to pop out some popcorn if you try to post it on the draftroom.
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-09-2006, 03:05
Can a 2.2 km ships be able to submerge? like wouldnt that make a tsunami when it went up and down? and wouldnt it have to like bend with the curve of the planet?
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 03:05
Most of this stuff was already proven feasible in the NS Draftroom.

Yes, I know that the numbers do seem a bit atrocious, but look at all of the other damn morons that say they have ten thousand ships in every battle. I barely have two thousand if that!

The Defiance is just slightly bigger than Quester's Hood. Even though I wanted to keep this classified, it really is three ships in one. One on each side to ballance it, and then the center.

If it passed through the draftroom, I am ok with it. Despite my misgivings I will let you RP with it, especially since we are shifting into PMT.
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 03:08
Ahhh!!!

Zuc, how exactly did you manage to get your small fleet of 100 ships through our massive armadas located in the waters outside his nation. We would most certaintly move to intercept you.
Rosdivan
26-09-2006, 03:08
Can a 2.2 km ships be able to submerge? like wouldnt that make a tsunami when it went up and down? and wouldnt it have to like bend with the curve of the planet?

Yes, no, and no respectively. Whether a 2.2km ship can actually be built is another question entirely. So is the question of whether, once submerging, it can return to the surface.
Leafanistan
26-09-2006, 03:13
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500999

Leafanistan offers you one of these missiles, or maybe the warhead, go on telegrams to discuss details.
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 03:15
if there is a air raid on Paradise City can some one rp my sams and AA guns opening up
iam using
60mm AA gun which look like the ones out of the game killzone
super patriot SAM as i think that what the up date ones are called
[NS]Zukariaa
26-09-2006, 03:25
Ahhh!!!

Zuc, how exactly did you manage to get your small fleet of 100 ships through our massive armadas located in the waters outside his nation. We would most certaintly move to intercept you.

Magic. :p
Ri-an
26-09-2006, 03:28
Zukariaa;11732995']Magic. :p

Careful, I take magic seriously. :D
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 03:33
a 40 stinger battery that can be load fast
is there one?
Bretton
26-09-2006, 03:48
To Blackhelm Confederacy
Imperial Isa here bys gives you
60000 ORF-3B fighter jets
from
Imperial Isa

OOC one change i make the hole plane in titanium

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498537

OOC: Say, um, I hope you aren't forgetting about your licensing fees (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11664960&postcount=7). Incase you've forgotten, you're looking at a fee of J$11,972,450 per unit. Please wire your payment in the relevant thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=11667132) after every production run. Thanks!
Tyrandis
26-09-2006, 04:51
Anti-air Defenses of the Blackhelm Confederacy

The outer ring is right on the border, and is well spread out all throughout. Every 300 balloons have interlocking targeting, so one can transfer its target to the next for 300 balloons.

The next is identical to the first ring, but is only cluster of 100 balloons.

Defense three is usually two, sometimes more Trojan II airbourne aircraft carriers, each holding 20 MiG-31's and an impressive missile armament

Line four is a group of four or five Hyperion airships and their escorting fighters, usually SuF-8's or MiG's of varying models

Line five is going to be SAM's. Depending on whose territory you are over it will be more or less difficult. Confederate territory will be defended with Firestorm or Patriot missiles, along with AAD-1 balloons. Griffincrest territory will have either the S-400 or SA-11 on guard. DSAM territory will use SA-11's, -6's, or -2's, along with heavy flak. CWP territory will mostly either use flack or the occasional SA-2.*

Line six is only above cities. Each city has a cluster of AAD-1's to defend it, and the clusters vary in size depending on the city.


OOC:

Airborne aircraft carriers being... what, exactly? I just need some clarification for my own entry into this cesspit.
Wanderjar
26-09-2006, 05:33
Ok Ri-an, I gotta hear this.
Ri-an
26-09-2006, 05:36
Ok Ri-an, I gotta hear this.

Alright first, have you ever played Dungeons and Dragons? and if so, have you ever encountered Mindflayers? I haven't encountered them, but I did read about them in one of the D&D rulebooks. That's not all there is to it, but I got to get this part out of the way first. It will define how I explain both Aquamarinians and Gareens.
The Infinite Crucible
26-09-2006, 05:45
Being as we have jumped into PMT I have been forced to transition my force into that time period. Its a bit late but I think this is about right.

Forces Being Mobilized:

Invasion Force:

Command:
Supreme Regelarc Nicodemus Christos – High Command
Pristos Regelarc Mikah Ardonai – Ground Command
Pristos Arios Regelarc Abd-Al-Rahman – Air Command
Pristos Oblivios Regelarc Ishmael Mark – Sea Command

Naval:
1 Regelarc Class Super Dreadnought
2 Indomitable Fury Class Super Arsenal Ships
2 Legion Class Super Carriers
30 Fleet Carriers
10 Heavy Carriers
200 Shield Battlecruisers
10 Striker Battleships
300 Cleansing Class Arsenal Chips
200 Guardian Class Frigates
200 Infallible Class Guide Missile Submarines
50 Heavenly Father USV Fathersubs
100 Inescapable Wrath Assault Submarines
Innumerable Support, Transport, and Landing Ships

Air:
1000 Air Supremacy Fighters – Carrier Based
800 Hybrid Attack Fighters – Carrier Based
1000 Angelic Tactical Strike Carrier – Carrier Based
300 Various War Supremacy Fighters – Carrier Based
500 Super Heavy Strategic Bombers – Homeland Based
750 Stealth Bombers – Homeland Based
300 Crucible MK. 4 50/50’s – Homeland Based
Innumerable Transports and support

Grounds Forces:
1 Holy Army –
15,000,000 CDF Personal Total
100,000 Drone MBT
50,000 Iron Fist Class Drone MBT
50,000 Air Insertion Drone LBT
250,000 IFV
100,000 Mobile Artillery
50,000 Mobile Missile Launch Systems
250,000 Multi Purpose Assault Helicopters
50,000 Attack Helicopters
25,000 Light Attack Helicopters
Innumerable Support and Locust Legions
Aralonia
26-09-2006, 05:49
thanks
is me or is it getting hard to live
the part army will not have me as i have not a long working back ground and iam not in to sport and but they keep going on that they need man

back to it

with my tech can i have a 600mm gun in a tank

Umm.

No.

Just. No. Please. A 23 inch gun on a tank is absolutely ludicrous.
The PeoplesFreedom
26-09-2006, 05:51
When the hell did we go PMT??
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 07:38
OOC: Say, um, I hope you aren't forgetting about your licensing fees (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11664960&postcount=7). Incase you've forgotten, you're looking at a fee of J$11,972,450 per unit. Please wire your payment in the relevant thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=11667132) after every production run. Thanks!

hey man you cheak it i have
if the words need fixing tell what words i will
The Kraven Corporation
26-09-2006, 07:41
Are you still arguing over stuff, its like 7 40 in the morning here, I've been to sleep and stuff..
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 07:45
Umm.

No.

Just. No. Please. A 23 inch gun on a tank is absolutely ludicrous.

thanks same told what i need to know at last

then what the bigs gun i can have on a tank that looks like the abrams but*2 in the infor you find on it oh and a cold fusion engine
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 07:49
Are you still arguing over stuff, its like 7 40 in the morning here, I've been to sleep and stuff..

bye good night and here were i am its 2:48pm
The Kraven Corporation
26-09-2006, 07:51
thanks same told what i need to know at last

then what the bigs gun i can have on a tank that looks like the abrams but*2 in the infor you find on it oh and a cold fusion engine

A cold fusion engine in a tank?! Thats far beyond the realms of PMT, Cold Fusion at PMT levels isn't efficient enough to be placed in a tank, the energy produced vs the fuel required to make the reactor function far out weighs its capabilities...

The biggest calibre of weapon I use on my tanks is a 210mm Demolition Mortar on the front of one of my Super Heavy battle tanks (The Imperator) but the largest battle cannon I use is the 185mm ECM with EM Rifling...

But the recoil of those weapons requires a large chassis, which is why most of the Kraven tanks are larger than most Main Battletanks..
Imperial isa
26-09-2006, 07:54
A cold fusion engine in a tank?! Thats far beyond the realms of PMT, Cold Fusion at PMT levels isn't efficient enough to be placed in a tank, the energy produced vs the fuel required to make the reactor function far out weighs its capabilities...

The biggest calibre of weapon I use on my tanks is a 210mm Demolition Mortar on the front of one of my Super Heavy battle tanks (The Imperator) but the largest battle cannon I use is the 185mm ECM with EM Rifling...

But the recoil of those weapons requires a large chassis, which is why most of the Kraven tanks are larger than most Main Battletanks..

i know FT but same one said same were way back in here if i need help ask

and i dont need to look mortar oh and thanks
Yallak
26-09-2006, 08:04
Just pointing people in the direction of my 48 hour deadline for forces attacking Blackhelm to withdraw, Blackhelm asked me to help him and so I'm getting involved... :)

Well, i'll be...... Who'd have though the day would come so soon when i'd been fighting with Kraven (then again who'd have though it would come at all). Should be interesting.
Dephire
26-09-2006, 08:04
The only thing I've seen you post there was that cannon of yours. Your submarine carrier is certainly stupid though.



Yeah, and they're a heck of a lot bigger than you are. Everyone's been toning down their navy size of late however.



Dude, I'm so going to pop out some popcorn if you try to post it on the draftroom.

You obviously didn't go there way way back. It's probably already gone from the draftroom as of now.

Also, and I've been talking to Questers about this, all the curve of the earth is gonna do is have more water on one side of the ship over the other.
Yallak
26-09-2006, 08:25
Titanium Airplanes and Nano Bots sound pretty FT to me. :rolleyes:

Nano bots are a delusion, so if someones using them then they are insane or FT.
Yallak
26-09-2006, 08:29
I use Thirdgeek as well, what I'm trying to get at are people like Kraven who think that by having a large population is enough to take over the world. If anyone has done their homework, his economy sucks. Hell, I'm more economically powerful than him! That means I can buy a hell of alot more nice things!

Well, some people prefer to simply RP all parts of their nation (including economy and the like). Personally I dont mind so long as said nation doesn't go overboard in the way they do it.