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The Tashkent Accord (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11695312#post11695312)

Everyone in the Middle East- get in that thread and make sure you're fine with the proposal. We need to do this as quickly as possible to restore order in our region of the world.

The Invision of Cote d'Ivoire

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500041

The Tashkent Accord (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11695312#post11695312)

Everyone in the Middle East- get in that thread and make sure you're fine with the proposal. We need to do this as quickly as possible to restore order in our region of the world.

The Emirate has reviewed the proposal and is somewhat alarmed by the UARCA tacit spectatorship, considering that they were not at the blunt end of Sistan's aggression, and yet they seek to "carve" large portions of the former Sistan without the consultation of the RSA, Vineyard, Warta Endor, and other noted allies and affected members. The Emirate hereby does not recognize this accord as a legitimate base for the pacification and reintegration of territories involving Sistan, owing in large part to the UARCA's relative inactivity in our recent conflict. Furthermore, the UARCA does not hold any legitimate say in the partitioning of influence zones, since they were not an involved member in the conflict. If they wish to participate, they ought to consult the RSA and their allies before unilaterally assenting to any decision.

In a less scolding tone, the Emirate does welcome the UARCA to assist in the pacification of the former territories of Sistan, since they have most appreciably expressed a desire to do so. If they are willing to offer assistance, they may head here : http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495608

The same applies for any neighboring state that wishes to render its assistance.

The Emirate has reviewed the proposal and is somewhat alarmed by the UARCA tacit spectatorship, considering that they were not at the blunt end of Sistan's aggression, and yet they seek to "carve" large portions of the former Sistan without the consultation of the RSA, Vineyard, Warta Endor, and other noted allies and affected members. The Emirate hereby does not recognize this accord as a legitimate base for the pacification and reintegration of territories involving Sistan, owing in large part to the UARCA's relative inactivity in our recent conflict. Furthermore, the UARCA does not hold any legitimate say in the partitioning of influence zones, since they were not an involved member in the conflict. If they wish to participate, they ought to consult the RSA and their allies before unilaterally assenting to any decision.

In a less scolding tone, the Emirate does welcome the UARCA to assist in the pacification of the former territories of Sistan, since they have most appreciably expressed a desire to do so. If they are willing to offer assistance, they may head here : http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495608

The same applies for any neighboring state that wishes to render its assistance.


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Dweladelfia Prime also does not rechodnize any of these claims to sistans land. The land in question should be put back into the unclaimed land. Not split up into diffrent sections. Its for the good of the people.

The Emirate has reviewed the proposal and is somewhat alarmed by the UARCA tacit spectatorship, considering that they were not at the blunt end of Sistan's aggression, and yet they seek to "carve" large portions of the former Sistan without the consultation of the RSA, Vineyard, Warta Endor, and other noted allies and affected members. The Emirate hereby does not recognize this accord as a legitimate base for the pacification and reintegration of territories involving Sistan, owing in large part to the UARCA's relative inactivity in our recent conflict. Furthermore, the UARCA does not hold any legitimate say in the partitioning of influence zones, since they were not an involved member in the conflict. If they wish to participate, they ought to consult the RSA and their allies before unilaterally assenting to any decision.

In a less scolding tone, the Emirate does welcome the UARCA to assist in the pacification of the former territories of Sistan, since they have most appreciably expressed a desire to do so. If they are willing to offer assistance, they may head here : http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495608

The same applies for any neighboring state that wishes to render its assistance.

The UARCA's diplomatic delegation reminds the Emirate of Alif Laam miim, in a somewhat annoyed manner, of the purpose of a conference. Namely, to propose plans, review them, and then raise objections before editing. It is in the understanding of the UARCA that, as the region degrades into violence, it appears that no one nation has the manpower to bring peace back to the areas controlled by the fanatics of Sistan. The UARCA further scolds ALM in return, reminding them that although there were no military actions undertaken by the UARCA, funding and support was provided to the Republic of India in opposing Sistan and through tense and lengthy diplomacy the areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan were saved from the Sistani menace. The UARCA is certain that ALM does not view only military action as working against Sistani aggression.

[OOC- That would be right before he ignored everyone in Earth V....]

But arguing the semantics is besides the point- both ALM and the UARCA care for the people of the region and look only for a peaceful, orderly, and quick transition back to the rule of law. The UARCA further notes that, in adition to the UARCA not being a member of the Red Sea Alliance and thus not having any presence whatsoever at the Alliance's meeting, multiple foreign emissaries, including members of the Red Sea Alliance, have already agreed to an emergency meeting in Tashkent to discuss the military situation- the UARCA has never made a claim to any lasting political solution to the area and only seeks to provide security while the politics may be worked out. The UARCA also notes that the conference, not any RSA actions, actually are receiving notice by nations in the region not affiliated directly with the RSA. Nonetheless, at this time, it appears that the plans created by the Red Sea Alliance are almost exact, with the sole exception being the fact that PAkistan is left out. [OOC- I assume you sent along info on your plans to me] Accordingly, the UARCA is completely willing to modify the proposal set forth at the Tashkent Accord based upon the RSA's proposed plan, with UARCA forces to begin moving immediately into land bordering the UARCA to begin pacification and restoration of security.

[OOC- Basically, I'm fine with everyone else taking what you had them doing- you'll find my plan really isn't too different in many areas. However, in order to be able to discuss with some vestige of ICness, please send someone to do discussions at the Tashkent Accord, as there's no way I'd know anything going on with the Red Sea Alliance and vice-versa. Besides which, Kopparsberg is already coming so that's 1/3rd of your alliance right there. :)]

-Border of Albania and Greece-

Captain Komesar grinned as he handed a greek border guard a Cigarette. Command had instructed the Imperial Guard to make friendly with the Greeks while being stationed on the border. Publically, it was to encourage good relations. But that was anything but the truth. His orders were given to him by his general directly, when the time came, kill them all.

And that time was now.

Grinning, he turned away from the Greeks and made as if he was walking away. A bird called in the distance for the second time in a minute. Unfortunately for the small pak of greeks crowding around having what was probably a delightful conversation, the surroundings were completely quiet.. except for that one bird call.

Captain Komesar's grin grew into a beaming smile. It is go time. He hit the ground, and before the greeks could react, he had killed the lot of them.

"WE ARE UNDER ATTACK!!"

Captain Komesar cursed. Apparently the Greeks were not stupid enough to congregate without leaving someone on watch. He saw the man shouting the alarm in his sights. He pulled the trigger. Nothing.

He pulled his gun back, and groped at it, hoping to fix what ever the problem was. Komesar cursed, and let his Bretta down (Gun attached to Bodyarmor in a way, so 'letting the bretta down' down is kind of like holstering it, only without the fuss-and bustly of attaching it a certain way. Its just more convenient.)

He pulled out his hand-held machine pistol and emptied an entire clip into the hapless border guard. He heard horns in the distance. Damn! He was late!

He drew his horn from his battle-pack and blew it as hard as he could. In the distance, he could hear engines ignite, and men shouting. Within a minute, ospreys flew overhead and into greece--and onto victory.

ooc: I Intend to race Military Command to conquer greece, but all units (All 50,000 of the Imperial Guard) have been strictly ordered not to engage when they encounter your units, and to instead hold their ground.

They were already in France training in a Joint Training Mission when the word came down to invade Greece.

ooc: But still, your troops don't suddenly appear in Greek territory, ESPECIALLY if you dont have a common border with greece!

To: TGSR
From: The Office of the Premier
Regarding: Equipment Purchases

WE have been overjoyed with the test products provided to us, and would like to place an order for 250 Pzh 2000 SPA units. At an asking price of USD $2 million apiece, the money provided with the order should equal USD $500 million. We hope that the option to purchase more in the future remains.

Yours,
Premier Navarbayevs

The Kingdom of Kopparbergs condemns the action taken by The United Federation of Military Command. The Greece people have always been a peaceful people, and by bombing the Greece shore you shall win no confidence.

We ask you to withdraw your troops from the peaceful Greece world of islands.

King Carl Gustaf XXI
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

OOC: This is a quote from the old Greece opening thread here in Earth-V, just a reminder to everyone interested in Greece:

the Aumanii are a laid back people who reside in the Greek archipelago...Their massive population of six billion somehow live in extreme comfort in the tiny little scrap of land, and, in an almost complete reverse of their futuristic counterparts, their military is quite small...almost insignifigant in comparison to the powers. Earth V, or just Earth as the local Aumanii call it, is paradise!

...Paradise indeed as Auman, Earth V's Auman, is one of the greatest tourist destinations on the face of the planet...Tourists are the nation's #1 Import.

Security is lax, at best. The military prefers to drink Ouzo and play the mandolin and the government is easily bribed. Thus is the laid back atmosphere of Auman.

Is that even applicable now? Looks like it was before the revamp, and when they still had the PMT tech level.

The Emirate is distressed that bombing runs have been commenced in Greece. Whereas the Emirate is seeking to pacify Malta and Crete, for their safety against such aggression, we would solemnly encourage the sovereign forces of Military Command to cease actual bombing of Greece. Our forces have only dropped leaflets, urging their acquiescence to our forces, for their security. Of course, if your intention is to terrorize the population, we would urge you to cease terrorizing the people of Greece and look to more peaceful methods of pacification.

ICly:

Emirate Forces have had difficulty securing tthe Maltese population, owing in part to their relative distrust of the ALM and in part to the heavy presence. Casualty reports suggest that around 1400 troops were injured, and over 300 are dead. The Emirate has yet to conclude any casualty reports for the people in Malta. In address to placate the concerns of increased aggressiveness on the part of the Emirate, Emir Jalal ibn-Misri spoke to the country and perhaps to the world [those who were watching at least]:

"We are now in a turbulent time, and the Emirate has alrerady seen the death of thousands of its citizens. We met with Sistan's aggression, when they sought to subvert the Middle East into a totalitarian extremist society, bent on chaos and subversion of the faith that many call truth. We have lost thousands of our people, civilian and military to the aggression posed by Sistan. But Allah was willing and turned their own aggression against them - they now lay in ruin, the very anarchy that they sought to bring to the world is now their own. But this is perhaps troubling news for those who reside in the Middle East, as there are now millions of soldiers, ready to do violence in the name of a cause that is dead and shall everafter be dead. The Emirate is therefore willing and ready to combat these violent folk - to preserve the order established in the Middle East. We have our allies in the Red Sea Alliance - we support their actions to preserve peace in the Middle East, as it is our sole home, and the home of millions of people.

In regards to our actions in Malta and Crete, we have reasonable iniformation that concerns the safety of the people residing on those islands that foreign aggression by powers beyond our reach are likely to commence hostile raids upon them, in order to conquer their territories and subvert the peace and order in the Middle East. There are forces currently beyond the Middle East that are ready and willing to seek the advantageous position to dislodge our authority and structure, in order to advance themselves in the world position. Their ultimate objective is to displace the peoples of the Middle East and institute unrighteous colonies among our people. The Emirate has taken it upon herself to protect the people of Malta and Crete. Whereas neither people have ascented to our protection, we felt it necessary to force our protection, and in the process, numbers of the local people have died. I do not doubt it, as it is such the nature of war that innocents will die when those that are vile and subversive continue to prosper at their loss. Therefore, in a show of mercy, kindness, and genuine charity, the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim is instituting a reparations council to offer our condolences to those who have suffered loss in Malta and Crete, to send them support and provide new residences and opportunities that were unfortunately destroyed in the wake of our intentions. We can only sorrowfully offer our apologies in retrospect, but we are convinced that whatever has happened ultimately happens for the good of all."

-Emir Jalal ibn Misri


In other news, the Emirate sends stern warnings to Chad and CAR, concerning alleged incursions by the said countries of their armed forces into Emirate sovereign territory. The Third Army Group [Aswan] has been supported by the Fifth Army Group [Alexandria]. In addition, to improve the logistics in the Sudan, the Third Army Group has been split into Third Army Group and Sixth Army Group [Khartoum], with 100,000 of the 140,000 force in the Third Army Group.


News from the Sudan suggest massive reforms and integration projects have been largely successful in improving the living conditions in the Sudan. Furthermore, the remnant forces of the former Sudanese military have surrendered in large part to the Emirate, where many of those deemed "fit for service" have been reintegrated into the Emirate's armed forces. They have undergone training in Benghazi and Khartoum, although their numbers are only so insignificant that records in the Emirate only suggest a modest increase, only enough to cover those who died in the Sudanese conflict. Integration in whole has not been completed, but areas east of Khartoum see a vastly integrated network of social, governmental, and miliary support structures and organizations. The western provinces have yet to become fully integrated, in part to their desolate terrain and somewhat underfunded infrastructure system in place. Once the Sudan becomes integrated, General Aziz says that the Emirate will receive the full authority in the Sudan, rather than the military, as it stands.

The Qattara is proceeding to its final stages, when the Qattara Depression will be filled in with the Mediterranean, and power plants can assume normal operations. The entire project complex is expected to be the largest industrial and commercial uplift in the Emirate for many years to come. The hydroelectric plants are expected to power the majority of the beachfronts on the Mediterranean, as well as areas as far east as Al Iskandariyah and areas as far west as Tripoli. The water in the Qattara Depression will likely fill at the most to the -50 elevation, with much of the water being fill out to desalinization plants, where fresh water can be pumped out to nearby settlements and provide ample water for increased agrcultural production. In addition, the salt extracted from the plants are likely to boast the Emirate's production of salt overall and establish a stronger industry there. Furthermore, the powerr generated from the project can also help establish numerous industries around the region, boasting the manufacturing industry therein. All of these projects cumulate to improve the Emirate's self-sustenacy and resources, although it is likely that years will pass before the full effect can be realized.

Coupling this good news, the refurnishing of Emirate ports and dock installations has been completed. These new facitilies increase the Emirate's naval industrial potential, by nearly doubling the Emirate's available dockspace to construct new vessels [with the current docks presently in Alexandria and Tripoli]. The new docks in Mersa Matruh and Port Said are likely to be bursting with new-found activity, as the Emirate Ministry of Defense is drafting plans, calling for an expanding naval presence. Emir Jalal expressed his great pleasure in receiving good news about the projects in the Emirate and looks to them as evidence that public optimism remains high despite the troubles around the Emirate. No future projects have been announced at the moment.


In a completely unrelated story, unconfirmed reports that the Emiress Malika al Bahiyya is with child. This news of an heir is stirrig gossip circles in Al Qahirah, and some government officials, convinced by the news, havev urged the Emir to announce the child publicly. Word from the Emir has not come yet on this subject.

(Att: The United Federation of Military Command)

OOC: I don't know the name of your ambassador in Israel, so I will just call him the ambassador.

IC:

In the Governmental building, Tel-Aviv Israel

King Carl Gustaf XXI pressed the red button on the intercom-unit on his desk. A beep was heard, and then he said:

"Call the embassy of The United Federation of Military Command, and tell the Ambassador to come to visit Åke Stålhandske. We expect him to be here within half an hour."

"Okay, sir. Will do that immediately" answered Anna, his secretary.

Anna phoned the embassy of the United Federation of Military Command:

"Good evening, sir, this is from the desk of the King. We want the Ambassador to be here right away, at least within half an hour. I don't know the reason to this, but I'm sure it's important."

Thirty Lavi-jets lifted from the Airbase in Tel-Aviv. They flew straight over the Mediterranean Sea, to the northwest, somewhere towards Crete, Rhodes or something in that direction.

In about the same time, ten F-5 lifted from the Airbase in Tunis, Tunisia. They immediately turned eastwards, right above the same sea.

"Very well Miss. General John Bell will be there as soon as he can." A young Captain walks into the General's office and informs the General the the King would like to see him as soon as possiable. The General looks up and says to the Captain. "Captain do you know why I am being called to talk to the King? If this is the matter of use invading Greece and us bombarding the Costal Defences there as we landed." The General gets up and heads to the door and the Captain has the car ready to take him over to the King's Palace.
The Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Åke Stålhandske, began to speak to the Ambassador:

Dear Mr. Ambassador, you may stay there, this will go quick. The King is busy at the moment, so I'll talk to you myself.

You are here because we're having a very important message to your government. We want you to leave Greece immediately. Right now, as we speak, we're having a lot of planes in the air around the Aegean Sea. They are just patrolling the area, but they are fully armed with missiles and are ready to use them should the need arise. We're also having allies in the area, but we really don't intend to interfere them.

We do not want to declare war with you, and that's really not our intention. BUT - we're having some people in the Israeli government that thinks we NEED to do that, and whatever else it takes, to have you to leave Greece alone.

One of the reasons to this is the very aggressive attitude from the United Federation of Military Command lately. You have invaded South Korea and the Vladivostok region. You have taken the power in Corsica with force. You're in the middle of an invasion of one of our African neighbors, and now you're attacking Greece with heavy bombings at the coastlines.

The government of the Kingdom is very worried, and tries to find a way to talk to you about this. If you withdraw your troops from Greece, and guarantee that your troops does not cross the borders of Cote'd'Ivor in Africa (be satisfied with ONE African country), then we may solve this together as friends.

That was all for the moment.

to make things clear. South Africa will support Vineyards annexation of Greece and not Military commands. we will make an inquest into "bombing raids" on Greek territory by Military command and only if their have been no atrocities commited may we recognize Military commands greek claims.

Thank you and good day

-South African foreign ministry-

On more pleasant news we hearby proclaim Mozambique as an intregal part of the Union and have heralded in a new Pan African alliance with Aliff Laam Imim. The specifics of this alliance will be held at a conference at an undisclosed date between our two great nations...

Military comand: South africa finds this response comendable but will reiterate our comments about your militarys actions. we are suspicious about your intentions to invite South African delegates over to Greece as we believe it is a ploy to get us to side with your nation should Kopperburgs intervene and subsequently kill our delegates.

Dweladelfia prime: we are very dubious of your recent aquisition of Cyprus. we are also questioning your logisitcal capabilities to administer a island that is irrelevant to your nations demographic and ethic background and is literally thousands of miles away from the Brazilian mainland.(atleast military command has a nation somewhere near greece)

we will also like to send our deepest sympathies to the Cypriot resistance movement. (if you get around to making an actual r.p for cyprus il be glad to r.p the resistance)

(nothing personal mate, Its just business thats all ;) )

coldest regards

-The Union of South Africa-

wooohooo its wooden spoon time lol :D

Military comand: South africa finds this response comendable but will reiterate our comments about your militarys actions. we are suspicious about your intentions to invite South African delegates over to Greece as we believe it is a ploy to get us to side with your nation should Kopperburgs intervene and subsequently kill our delegates.

Dweladelfia prime: we are very dubious of your recent aquisition of Cyprus. we are also questioning your logisitcal capabilities to administer a island that is irrelevant to your nations demographic and ethic background and is literally thousands of miles away from the Brazilian mainland.(atleast military command has a nation somewhere near greece)

we will also like to send our deepest sympathies to the Cypriot resistance movement. (if you get around to making an actual r.p for cyprus il be glad to r.p the resistance)

(nothing personal mate, Its just business thats all ;) )

coldest regards

-The Union of South Africa-

OOC: You can kiss your EATO membership goodbye.

OOC: You can kiss your EATO membership goodbye.

OCC: Please make a statement IC DP, if this is while you don't want him joining the EATO alliance, then I would like an offically IC post to it. Thanks.

ooc: The nation of Vineyard has not even heard of any such talks taking place. As a matter of fact, this is the first time we have heard it mentioned.

IC: -Flying Command Post, Somewhere above Greece-

"Sir, Guard Division 1 has landed in Thessaloniki, and are currently engaged with the Local Poliece forces. The bulk of the Greek military has, not suprisingly, gone south to defend their capital."

"Very well. Order them to seize the city, leave a brigade, and secure everything to the east. Time is of the essence. Where is Division 2?"

"Our latest reports indicate that they lost a few ospreys to SAMS near Patra, but have regrouped and are advancing on foot to the city. Besides the scattered air emplacement, only a hand full of poliece units have auctually resisted our occupation."

"Very well. DIvisions 3, 4, and 5 are in place north of Athens, around the City of THival, and are erecting barriers to the east and west of it. In short, all Military Command will be able to grasp is part of the Peloponesian."

"Very good. Have a squadren of Dassult Neurons fly over Athens. DO not fire or shoot. Lets show them that we can strike them at any moment."


-Telegram to Military Command-

Greetings!

Withdraw from Greece immediately. Your blatent yet pointless agression against the Greeks is unwarrented. We may be forced to take action against your Imperialism if you do not withdraw immediately.

-Regent Windsor

The United Netherlands Government is deeply disturbed by the chain of events that has enfold over the past few weeks. The world had been brought away from a world war and is now being lead into another one over a nation with less then ten million people.

We call on all nations to stop their march towards war and settle their problems peacefully. If, war is going to erupted over the tiny nation of Greece, then the United Netherlands passes the moment that no nation should claim Greece and that it should be left an Independent nation. Why should the Greek people be made to suffer of having their country divided and their people lead into a world war when they have done nothing to cause this.

Thereby, the United Netherlands issues the proposal to anyone who will listen that Greece be left a free nation under the protection of the United Nations.

These are the times that try men’s souls, do not end those innocent souls over your petty bickering. There is no higher calling then that of peace.

In the Governmental building, Tel-Aviv Israel

The King has entered the room, and he began to speak to the Ambassador.

"Ok, General Bells. But why are you invading Greece in the first place? We cannot see why you are there and making bombing runs? And besides, we are against the death penalty.

We haven't forgotten the NAP. I we had forgotten it, your forces maybe should have been attacked already, but we're trying to solve this issue without more harm done to Greece.

And about Africa... We want you to guarantee that you will not attack any other african country, not only the countries belonging to the Kingdom of Kopparbergs.

And one more thing, the United Federation of Military Command will be hard to defend, as you have territories spread out all over the world. You don't have two countries bordering each other. Remember that.

In the Governmental building, Tel-Aviv Israel

The King has entered the room, and he began to speak to the Ambassador.

"Ok, General Bells. But why are you invading Greece in the first place? We cannot see why you are there and making bombing runs? And besides, we are against the death penalty.

We haven't forgotten the NAP. I we had forgotten it, your forces maybe should have been attacked already, but we're trying to solve this issue without more harm done to Greece.

And about Africa... We want you to guarantee that you will not attack any other african country, not only the countries belonging to the Kingdom of Kopparbergs.

And one more thing, the United Federation of Military Command will be hard to defend, as you have territories spread out all over the world. You don't have two countries bordering each other. Remember that.

OCC: While offically, yes he does not have two countries he controls bordering each other. Unoffically he does, United Federation of Military Command is a member of the EATO alliance and an attack on any member of the EATO alliance is an attack on all of the members. Which is why I made the IC statement of another world war drawing near. Are you prepared to take the blame for starting that War? You just barely escaped one intact, are you really willing to push your luck? These are matters you must decide for the sake of peace or in the worst case war.

-Telegram to Vineyard-

Hello!

We are not going to withdraw until we reach a comproise on the what is going in Greece. Again we are willing to work with your nation on the problem in Greece. If you wish to declear war on use we are also willing to defend ourselfs as we need to. But for now we are not going to be shooting at your military units until you attack our nation's forces. We hope that we can work this out.

-Telegram to Military Command-

Despite your claims, recon and satilite immages show massive destruction in areas you bombed, most of the casuilties being civilian. We will not engage in war, however, if you do not withdraw from your campaign of mass-murder and agression, we shall encircle and blockade your forces in Athens. This is not a war, however we find it prudent to give you a 'heads up': Prepare to face the ravages of starvation.

-Regent Windsor

OOC: Reply to United Earthling's OOC-comment.

I'm not going to start a war, I'm trying to use diplomatic to stop a war.
And really, Military Command is the aggressor here. Why, may you ask? Here's the story:

In post #485 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11690333&postcount=485) Vineyard asked OOC "Isn't Greece forfit now? The guy that claimed it has not been on in quite a while..."

In post #489 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11690868&postcount=489) he "started" his invasion of Greece.

In post #496 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11692450&postcount=496) Military Command started his invasion of Greece, with the somewhat strange Japanese Fleet in the Mediterranean. No traveling, or no RP of the fleet leaving their homeport. They just popped up and started the invasion of Greece.

To me it seems like MC rushed to get Greece before Vineyard, when Vineyard asked is Greece was free. He didn't have the time to make the Japanese fleet sail across the globe, so in a later post he said that they already were in France.

I may be wrong, MC maybe got the idea of invading Greece without the "inspiration" by Vineyard. And maybe the Japanese Fleet really was in France on an exercise (although no RP has been made about that, I'm pretty sure about that). I may be wrong, but this is just MY explanation to why I'm trying to get MC to leave Greece with diplomatic talks. I'm not just out for another war.

And I realize that Vineyard doesn't have the "right" to Greece, but that's my explanation to why I'm condemning MC's action IC.

No hard feelings at any front! I'm really not after another war, I'm just making a RP...

The Government of United Federation of Military Command will be pulling out of the country of Greece. The Sky Marshal in Chief MacKenzie would like to invite those Government Officals that have made the choices to say that I have committed a mass-murdering in Greece is wrong because all the bombardment was done with complete guidence of the weapons into only military targets. The Government of United Federation of Military Command would also like to say that for the record we are not doing this because the Kingdom of Kopparbergs or Vineyard threating us with the use of force on my troops. We are intending to expaned our nation into Africa and into other parts of Asia.

OOC: I would like to know what happen to the person that was running the UK and Brittney?

OCC: He joined EII. Thats the last post I've seen him make. I've also seen a few others posting EII threads but, I'm not going to name names but it explains while their not at Earth V alot.

We had a few members join but now were losing them again. The Guy playing India should be leaving in a day or so.

The Government of United Federation of Military Command will be pulling out of the country of Greece. The Sky Marshal in Chief MacKenzie would like to invite those Government Officals that have made the choices to say that I have committed a mass-murdering in Greece is wrong because all the bombardment was done with complete guidence of the weapons into only military targets. The Government of United Federation of Military Command would also like to say that for the record we are not doing this because the Kingdom of Kopparbergs or Vineyard threating us with the use of force on my troops. We are intending to expaned our nation into Africa and into other parts of Asia.

OOC: I would like to know what happen to the person that was running the UK and Brittney?
OOC: Since your RPing about getting to Greece is simply not detailed enough and seems a bit godmoddy, you have two options:

Get out of Greece immediately ICly, and give up any connections to Greece.
Delete your posts, the invasion never happened.

There all my post for Greek Invision is gone.

Official Release from the Republican Guard Head Quarters in Riyadh

Today at 03:00 AM the Republican Guard sent in supplemental forces to secure the areas in and bordering Oman and Yemen. Ground forces are reporting a lack of organized resistance, but are reporting a heavy presence of the terrorist faction, the Arm of Allah. All Air sectors are on standby, the Reserve Legions have been called up, and the Army Divisions are also awaiting deployment. More updates will be given as the situation develops.

Ben Heitz, Minister of Defense


OOC: This is only an official statement, more rp is coming.

UARCA NEWS BRIEFING
[quote]Turkmenistan, UARCA; AP Report
Speaking from an area just declared free of all insurgents, military and government officials declared the opening moves of a military campaign long in the planning to be an astonishing success.

"We have successfully penetrated through the defenses put up by two under-strength corps, the largest military unit in the entire border area," General Ahmad Kalnik said. "AS of now, though the troop numbers are of course classified, I can say with total sincerity that we have more men in the field than the rapidly degrading Sistani armed forces are capable of providing and we are better both in the technical and training standpoints. Units have penetrated far deeper than expected, with little resistance encountered past the breakthrough. That is sure to increase as we near some key locations, but as of now we are completely successful in our aims."

Neither Kalnik nor the oter gvoernment officials had any substantive comments on the recent failure of the Tashkent Accord. "Political aspects are outside my department," Gen. Kalnik said. "I am only authorized to comment on the military aspects of this operation and in that we are eminently successful." He would not verify reports that puts People's Guard Tank Divisions outside of both Mashad and Sari, stating that, as an ongoing military operation, any information divulged could be harmful to his men.

OOC: You can kiss your EATO membership goodbye.

oh dear:D (btw do an r.p on cyprus)

oh dear:D (btw do an r.p on cyprus)

I'm pulling out of cyprus.

South Africa remains suspicous of Military commands belligerent disposition on "aquiring new territory" on the African continent and emphatically reminds the Military command government to do so with the utmost respect to the Indigenous peoples in your planned Invasion area.

we also remind you that Kopperburgs suggested that you limit your expansionism in Africa to one nation presumably because a lot of West Africa is in their sphere of influence. It is your nations prerogative however to do what your politicians wish. so we will therefore neither hinder nor applaud your actions in africa if it doesnt turn out to be another fiasco like you invasion of Greece.

we hope we can retain faily civil diplomatic relations with your country.

just do an r.p on it and explain the siginicance of Cyprus to your empire. Its just that its a relatively big island thats all.

(BTW mate im not such an angry person. Im just in character thats all. South Africa is pragmatic and rather arrogant in her role in continental affairs and just loves to have a diplomatic mud fling with another nation if her interests are compromised)

no hard feelings :)

just do an r.p on it and explain the siginicance of Cyprus to your empire. Its just that its a relatively big island thats all.

(BTW mate im not such an angry person. Im just in character thats all. South Africa is pragmatic and rather arrogant in her role in continental affairs and just loves to have a diplomatic mud fling with another nation if her interests are compromised)

no hard feelings :)

Lol, it dosnt matter if I had anything in commen with it. It was in a stratigic part of the world. Its called "Empire" for a reason.

heh yeah I will concede that as Britain owned half the world at one poin. hence the name "british empire" :)

IC:

-Telegram to all EATO and RSA members-

The Empire of Vineyard and the nation of DP have formerly reached a agreement on the Syprus question. The Empire of Vineyard will acquire the Island in exchange for a few carriers that the empire will take upon itself to build for DP. We are elated to announce that the Cyprus crisis is over!

-Regent Windsor

OOC: Just a short post

IC:
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs ends the close of the Strait of Gibraltar. The strait is now open to everyone.

OOC: A new thread:

Shandong Shen Strikes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500512)

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The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Press communique from The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

The King himself, Carl Gustaf XXI, want to officially thank the two EATO-nations of United Federation of Military Command and The Brazilian Empire.

They have proven to show very good judgments in the recent disturbances in the Mediterranean area. They have showed the world that war is not the only solution to problems. We applause their latest decisions and hopes to strengthen the connections between the Kingdom and the EATO-alliance.

King Carl Gustaf XXI
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

[ooc: the political situationn has certainly changed...]

The Emirate is glad to find that diplomacy with Military Command and Vineyard, and the Cyprus question have all been resolved. This demonstration proves that civil nations can interact with the most diligence and perhaps in common regard to avoiding unnecessary conflict. We are somewhat confused at the blockades affecting the Gibraltar Strait, but seeing as the military situation therein has been diffused there as well, we are glad to see traffic re-entering the Mediterranean in bulk.

We hope that similar progress can lead to cognizant and consensual progress on the question of Sistan in the Middle East. A land grab approach will certainly not work and evidently reveals less sensible and more reproachable actions by those states. Nonetheless, the Emirate will stand by the efforts of her allies in the RSA, and in other allied functions.

-PM Yusuf Hassan


semi-SIC:

ALM forces under the Fourth Army Group in Saudi Arabia have been ordered to commence operations into UAE with limited support from Arabician units. Actual ground engagements, but swift air strikes precede the offensive, to soften the opposition, and furthermore eliminate hard targets. Primary targets were air defense units and structures. Civilians targets are being avoided, to dispel any unreasonable collateral damage.


Forces in Malta, despite lenient measures, have met with stiff resistance on many parts of the island. After a relatively certain calm, Maltese resistance groups have been rallying people to resist ALM forces present. Military commanders have had difficulty trying to quell resistance, however sparse and uncoordinated they have been. Nonetheless, military units have made contacts with passive civilians, urging them to assist in bringing back normalcy to the island.

Cretan attacks have been stepped up at the moment, as ALM forces have made deeper penetrations into the island. However, resistance has been more disconcerted and less caustic than those on Malta. Commanders have considered in comparison with the nearly fanatical display on Malta, the Cretan people are more lazy and more compliant with ALM forces. However, Cretan ground forces have not been merciful in their defense, and have utilized many means to deter ALM advances on the island. The capital of Knossos is under siege, only to permit cleared humanitarian goods to the civilians of the city. No naval bombardment hass yet occured, although commanders are considering precision strikes on the island, to soften resistance only slightly.

The Port Said Flotilla has made way to travel to Bahrain, where it will reconnoiter with ALM forces there and resupply. In addition, the Emirate has issued conscription orders for 50,000 additional troops to support operations in the pacification of Sistan. This order also calls for the purchase of new arms for the new 7th Army Group, to be based in Dubai upon ascension. The following orders shall be made to the applicable organization as soon as possible:

100 MK4 Merkava tanks
50000 H&K G36
50000 Barak 9 mm
50000 H&K MG-43
1000 IFV [to be disclosed at a later moment]

other support weaponry, including RPG weaponry.

In addition to these proposals, the Ministry of Defense is increasing the Emirate Air Force to include 10000 additional troops, to be flying next top-line aircraft. We officially post our intentions to purchase a new aircraft, and those willing to win the business of the ALM MoD should apply herein.



On a final note of news, ALM confirms the bilateral alliance between the Boer Republik and herself, and as such announces that whilee a convention is to be decided, the date will not be anytime soon. However, we invite the Boer Republik to continue to pursue good relations with our neighbors, and if need be, we can schedule minor conferences to work out whatever kinks need to be worked out.

[OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT TO H&K]

The Emirate MoD has received permission to purchase 50,000 of the following weaponry:

H&K G36
H&K MG-43

Whereas we could not find an official storefront to your venerable organizationn, we are hoping that your company is still willing to accept this transaction. Furthermore, as we do not know the applicable price for these armaments, we wish to know what this purchase would entail.

Minister of Defense Salil as-Salah Ibn-Ibrahim

[ooc: that's all - if I'm missing something, please tell me...]

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People's Republic of Asian China


The People's Republic of Asian China are looking for a new oil contract.

Due to the fall of the Persian Empire, we don't have sufficient oil contracts to fulfill our needs. Our need is to import 1.6 million bbl/day, and we're currently importing 800,000 million bbl/day. We must, as soon as possible, find another source for the lacking 800,000 bbl/day. If you're exporting oil, please let us know how much it would cost to buy 0.8 million bbl/day.

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees.

OOC: We really didn't have a contract with Sistan, I just want to have a reason to get new contracts.

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People's Republic of Asian China


The People's Republic of Asian China are looking for a new oil contract.

Due to the fall of the Persian Empire, we don't have sufficient oil contracts to fulfill our needs. Our need is to import 1.6 million bbl/day, and we're currently importing 800,000 million bbl/day. We must, as soon as possible, find another source for the lacking 800,000 bbl/day. If you're exporting oil, please let us know how much it would cost to buy 0.8 million bbl/day.

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees.

OOC: We really didn't have a contract with Sistan, I just want to have a reason to get new contracts.


The Brazilian Empire is willing to sell oil to Asian China. We can supply your needs as stated above.

[Signed]

The High Command

In addition to these proposals, the Ministry of Defense is increasing the Emirate Air Force to include 10000 additional troops, to be flying next top-line aircraft. We officially post our intentions to purchase a new aircraft, and those willing to win the business of the ALM MoD should apply herein.
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs offer you to buy Lavi Multi-role fighter jets (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11510907&postcount=3). As a member of the Red Sea alliance, you'll recieve a 15% discount.

Lucas Schenker
Sales Manager, SIBAT
Israeli Foreign Defense Assistance and Defense Export Organization

The Brazilian Empire is willing to sell oil to Asian China. We can supply your needs as stated above.

[Signed]

The High Command
We will take this offer under consideration. But we prefer to buy it from a place more close to Asian China, as you'll never know when the imperialistic bastards will sink a tanker just to stop us from getting oil. We have been there before. To be honest with you, we in the Asian Chinese Communist Party are always honest, we would like to have the oil delivered by a pipeline.

To solve the immediate crisis, we would like to buy two full tankers with crude oil, and one tanker with petroleum from The Brazilian Empire. We want the oil delivered to the Yang Shan deep-water port in Shanghai.

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees.

Operation: Thunderstrike (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500600)

We will take this offer under consideration. But we prefer to buy it from a place more close to Asian China, as you'll never know when the imperialistic bastards will sink a tanker just to stop us from getting oil. We have been there before. To be honest with you, we in the Asian Chinese Communist Party are always honest, we would like to have the oil delivered by a pipeline.

To solve the immediate crisis, we would like to buy two full tankers with crude oil, and one tanker with petroleum from The Brazilian Empire. We want the oil delivered to the Yang Shan deep-water port in Shanghai.

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees.

We will send the oil immediately.

The People's Republic of Asian China are looking for a new oil contract.

Due to the fall of the Persian Empire, we don't have sufficient oil contracts to fulfill our needs. Our need is to import 1.6 million bbl/day, and we're currently importing 800,000 million bbl/day. We must, as soon as possible, find another source for the lacking 800,000 bbl/day. If you're exporting oil, please let us know how much it would cost to buy 0.8 million bbl/day.

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees.

The Emirate will see what we can do to offer our services at the moment. We would strongly encourage your state to inquire the Democratic Republic of Arabicia, nonetheless, as their reserves are more extensive and trading routes would be much easier to manage.

The Kingdom of Kopparbergs offer you to buy Lavi Multi-role fighter jets. As a member of the Red Sea alliance, you'll recieve a 15% discount.

Lucas Schenker
Sales Manager, SIBAT
Israeli Foreign Defense Assistance and Defense Export Organization

We will consider the idea as we inquire with SIBAT. We appreciate the offer, and we will likely accept the proposal.

ALM forces have begun combat operations in the UAE. Support operations in Qatar have begun, but no ground offensive has started. Even as Sistani forces outnumber ALM coalition forces, we are bringing support units to assist, and our intention is not to engage the Sistani troops directly, but provide enough power to dissuade their fanatical forces to desist their fighting. Furthermore, given blockades in effect, Sistani troops are not likely to maintain good morale and supply limits.

Current schematics of troop strengths - based on good guesses given by Sistan before his ban and the subsequent bombings:

ALM - 40000 troops, with Arabician and Emirate air support
Sistani forces in UAE - 80,000 troops

Additionally, Emirate and Warta Endor fleets completed elimination of the Sistani fleet in the Arabian Gulf. Critical to this attack was the presence of Warta Endor submarines, which quickly destroyed Sistan's aerial threat with its ten makeshift aircraft carriers. Furthermore, the lack of coordination among Sistan vessels made it extremely easy to disable the Sistani fleet, where most of the Sistani vessels were either sent back to Warta Endor or the Emirate for scuttling and salvaging or destroyed and sent to the bottom of the Gulf. The Ministry of Defense gladly announced that the Arabian Gulf was free from Sistani threats and the region was once again open to all vessels, military and otherwise.

here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11715672&postcount=55)

[ooc: to those thinking that 80,000 for Sistan is unreasonably high, I remind you that Sistan displayed military stats for an army numbering over 3 million. his numbers were clearly inflated, but as no one had yet protested, they had since remained a fact. So, of the 3,000,000 soldiers in the former Sistani Army, about 100,000 of them were in the UAE. Reflecting on the recent air strikes, the possible attrition due to anarchy, and other factors that plague large standing armies, I think 80,000 is at least fair if not perhaps a little low]

UARCA News Briefing
Despite what has been termed as "ferocious resistance" by the Ministry of Defence, UARCA troops have moved the frontline of fighting against Sistani military forces to an area near Qolleh ye Damavand, the highest point in Iran. An unnamed government official, speaking under condition of anonymity, said that there was ferocious fighting taking place near the city of Semnan, though UARCA troops ahd taken the important junction beyond the city and were holding in the face of extreme counterattacks.

"That's been the areas of highest resistance so far," the official said. "Once through the areas that were not defended due to the lack of anything valuable to defend, we started approaching Tehran and resistance has increased the closer we get. Not, of course, that it matters, since we're at a point where we feel that security is balanced."

Anaylsts say that the rapid movement across much of north-eastern Iran has been due in part to the relative unimportance of the area in question in Iran's economy and military planning. "It's useless desert or useless mountain or city," Senior Policy analyst Devkin Davro said. "There are military forces at crossroads, at cities, and that's about it. Close to Tehran means you get much more resistance, but it seems clear to our research group that forward expansion has ended, at least if security is all that's truely being valued in this military action."

Davro's group puts the Westward boundary of UARCA troop movement at a point just a bit west of Qolleh ye Damavand, extending at an angle back to the strategically important crossroads at Garmsar. With a desert to the South, rugged mountains extending in a line along the entirety of the zone of control, and the only routes through easily blocked by UARCA forces, Davro concludes that this will be the limit of movement. "West to the Damavand, South to Garmsar and points south of Mashhad, and everything along the mountains. It's the best natural barrier in the entire region and moving anywhere past that point puts UARCA forces at a risk and the entire notion of a security buffer in the garbage as far as the international community is concerned."

Confederate Defense Industry News!

McDonnell Douglas and Fairchild aviation's hopes to supply a further 1300 F-25 Ching Kuo upgrades to the Army Air Wing were dashed, when the MoD selected to fit new avionics to the large numbers of Lavi airframes being imported to Kopparbergs. This leads to there being three fighter aircraft in development for the Confederate military as the army air wing attempts to produce a home grown air force.

Type 1:
Name: Name F-25 Cyclone
Number: 480 already in front line service, 500 more are being built.
Replacing: Most F-4 Phantom and A-4 Skyhawk units.
Based on: This aircraft is a Confederate built version of the AIDC Ching Kuo.

Type 2:
Name: YF-26
Number: 2 Prototypes, with plans for an initial batch of 400
Replacing: The Confederate Army Air Wing's small number of F-22s as well as F-15A/B units.
Based on: This aircraft is completely new build.

Type 3:
Name: YF-27
Number: 0 (1300 airframes are being purchased for conversion from SIBAT)
Replacing: The F-16A/B
Based on: The airframe of the IAI Lavi.

Secret IC:

Deep inside Shar-Intel Headquarters at an unspecified location in Idaho

Several people dressed in uniforms were assembled around a conference table, along with multiple large LCD screens surrounding the table. An elderly gentleman spoke up.

"It has been reported that the government of Vietmexico is teetering on the verge of collapse. Should Vietmexico fall, it may lead to a chain reaction of destabilization in the Americas."

A woman that could be mistaken for a supermodel spoke.

"Sharina has been attempting to stabilize and unify the Americas for several decades. We must continue in our mission to do so."

Another woman, older and more distinguished, responded.

"Agreed. If Vietmexico should fall, it is most likely that Dweladelfia Prime will attempt to capitalize on this, and expand into former Vietmexicoan territory. This cannot be allowed, as Dweladelfia Prime's actions may lead to further chaos in the Americas as evidenced by their activities in the Caribbean, which would be counter-productive to Sharina's mission."

The old gentleman nodded before making his statement.

"Very well. One option is to insert Sharinan spies and spread pro-Sharinan propaganda within Vietmexico. In addition, we should begin mobilizing troops and assets as quickly as possible in our South American holdings. We should also put our Caribbean Fleet and holdings on a heightened alert status. We should prepare for possible conflict with Dweladelfia Prime if the Vietmexico situation turns bad."

A cloaked figure sat on a chair in the darkness, revealing nothing but a silouhette and the garb. His voice conveyed a sense of coldness and finality.

"The suggestions are approved. If Dweladelfia Prime decides to interfere in Vietmexico should it fall, apporpiate action must be taken. If necessary, Sharina will ensure that the threat Dweladelfia Prime may present is effectively neutralized.

Go and see that everything is done."

For the first time in over a decade, Sharina is emerging from its isolation. A sleeping giant has been awakened, and the future will be changed in more ways than one.

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OOC:

If Vietmexico comes back and everything, then this RP will be considered to never have happened. If he is kicked out of Earth V for inactivity, then this RP will be considered "canon" to Earth V.

ALM progress in UAE territory has been slow but steady. Sistani casualties have been high, but very few units have opted to surrender. The pain of the attacks have been focused on Dubai, avoiding civilian targets when possible. Nonetheless, the ALM forces have suffered moderately high casualties, around 5000 at the moment. In all, ALM commanders have been extremely pleased at the progress in the campaign, although they all consider that Sistan's resistance only proves that an actual war with the state itself would have been a logistical nightmare.

Furthermore, Emirate forces preparing to form the Army Group Dubai are preparing for combat at the moment, after 6 weeks of effective and somewhat harsh training [it's possible...]. They are expected to be modestly combat-ready in about 8 weeks, depending on the arrival of new weapons systems.

The Vietnamese Government was beginning to have what some would dub ‘troubles’. Polls had been showing a steady decline in government support for a number of years starting near the almost conflict with Warta Endor. The government’s hostile reaction caused many to question their motives and from the time being the government had shrugged of a number of issues hoping to avoid another public outcry. Locals began to take to the streets demanding some sort of action to take place but to seemingly no avail. The loudest cry of all was heard from the pro independence, or those that wanted to break free from the H-Town Tejas government style and form their own republic. Others argued the importance of support and protection citing numerous cases of the Philippines helping countries such as Fiji in their time of need. This made a large impact on the people but because the situation was young a response from the Philippines had not been heard nor was one in the progress, or so it seemed.

The Philippines had been keeping a close eye on Vietnam. They had unofficially put support into the Pro-Philippine/Independence hoping that the people would take kindly to it. However, as said before, the situation was still early and any more action could prompt the government out of hibernation.

The IDF troops in Jordan and Syria made progress. The resistance from the Sistani troops decreased from day to day, as they understood that they didn't have any kind of support from their country.

And because they had taken both Syria and Jordan with such a rush, their chains of support were very weak. And on top of this, the IDF Air Force continuously patrolled the skies of Jordan and Syria, making attacks at Sistani temporary bases and troop installations. The moral of the Sistani troops were not what it used to be earlier.

In Jordan the Jordanians helped IDF to fight the Sistani troops, but they didn't have much of equipment. The capital, Amman, is secured and the Jordanian government again rules the country, assisted by Kopparbergs. But there are a lot of hard work remaining to have all of Jordan secured.

The situation in Syria was more complicated compared to Jordan. The IDF-troops are located in the southern and eastern parts of Syria, nothing in the northern parts. The reason to this is that it was in these areas the Sistani troops was most active, but we think that they are spread all over the country.

As Kopparbergs has control over the 3ed battle group (Italica, Vineyard) and an additional 100,000 reservists from Vineyard, they were ordered to advance to the central and northern parts of Syria. Their mission is to secure the remaining parts of the country, and elimination every Sistani installations, as well as any possible unfriendly Syrian troops.

OOC: I didn't really know in which thread I should continue the "work" with Jordan and Syria, so I posted it here in the general IC-thread... Any other suggestions?

[ooc: We could make a new thread... but I'm using the main IC thread for now. But maybe we should make a new thread, since Granate has already done that...]

Updates from the Emirate:

The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages, and we invite all nations of the world to visit the ceremonial conclusion to an epic venture into tapping the power of the Mediterranean and the Desert. Emir Jalal shall be present to commence the ceremony and likely to have his word on several events occuring in the world.

For simplicity's sake, only nations that have formally established an embassy with the Emirate [or an otherwise valuable ally - in which case, we need to formalize relations quickly...] may attend. The list is as shown:

The Republican Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs
The Boer Republik
The Empire of Dweladelfia Prime
The Democratic Republic of Arabicia
The Confederate States of America
The Sharina Technocracy
The Federal Socialist Republics of Warta Endor
The South American Union
The Democratic People's Republic of Indochina
The Philippines Protectorate
The United Federation of Military Command
The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia
The Indian Republic
The Kingdom of United Netherlands
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics
The People's Republic of Asian China

If you want to be added to this list, please submit a reply herein and we will consider the proposal [likely to be followed by an offer to establish an embassy].



ALM Coalition forces in the UAE have begun to press on Dubai and Abu Dhabi. For all of the rhetoric that Sistan gave, their forces were rather poorly organized and trained. Nonetheless, it was more of Sistani fanaticism that gave Emirate forces the largest pain, as they demonstrated subhuman characteristics in their offensive and defensive strikes. At some point, numerous commanders suggested that they "were not fighting humans, but rather devils." The General Staff was not available to comment onn these events, although numerous analysts suggested that Sistani propoganda had distorted the mindframe of the people living in Sistan, and as such would entail a long and hard occupation in those territories. Regardless of these events, the Emirate maintains it cooperation in the pacification of Sistani territories.

[ooc: We could make a new thread... but I'm using the main IC thread for now. But maybe we should make a new thread, since Granate has already done that...]

Updates from the Emirate:

The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages, and we invite all nations of the world to visit the ceremonial conclusion to an epic venture into tapping the power of the Mediterranean and the Desert. Emir Jalal shall be present to commence the ceremony and likely to have his word on several events occuring in the world.

For simplicity's sake, only nations that have formally established an embassy with the Emirate [or an otherwise valuable ally - in which case, we need to formalize relations quickly...] may attend. The list is as shown:

The Republican Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs
The Boer Republik
The Empire of Dweladelfia Prime
The Democratic Republic of Arabicia
The Confederate States of America
The Sharina Technocracy
The Federal Socialist Republics of Warta Endor
The South American Union
The Democratic People's Republic of Indochina
The Philippines Protectorate
The United Federation of Military Command
The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia
The Indian Republic
The Kingdom of United Netherlands
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics
The People's Republic of Asian China

If you want to be added to this list, please submit a reply herein and we will consider the proposal [likely to be followed by an offer to establish an embassy].



ALM Coalition forces in the UAE have begun to press on Dubai and Abu Dhabi. For all of the rhetoric that Sistan gave, their forces were rather poorly organized and trained. Nonetheless, it was more of Sistani fanaticism that gave Emirate forces the largest pain, as they demonstrated subhuman characteristics in their offensive and defensive strikes. At some point, numerous commanders suggested that they "were not fighting humans, but rather devils." The General Staff was not available to comment onn these events, although numerous analysts suggested that Sistani propoganda had distorted the mindframe of the people living in Sistan, and as such would entail a long and hard occupation in those territories. Regardless of these events, the Emirate maintains it cooperation in the pacification of Sistani territories.


The Government of United Federation of Military Command would like thank the Emirate for your inveration and we would be honored to be there on this great marking in history. The Sky Marshal well be there in person. Again thank you.

[ooc: We could make a new thread... but I'm using the main IC thread for now. But maybe we should make a new thread, since Granate has already done that...]

Updates from the Emirate:

The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages, and we invite all nations of the world to visit the ceremonial conclusion to an epic venture into tapping the power of the Mediterranean and the Desert. Emir Jalal shall be present to commence the ceremony and likely to have his word on several events occuring in the world.

For simplicity's sake, only nations that have formally established an embassy with the Emirate [or an otherwise valuable ally - in which case, we need to formalize relations quickly...] may attend. The list is as shown:

The Republican Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs
The Boer Republik
The Empire of Dweladelfia Prime
The Democratic Republic of Arabicia
The Confederate States of America
The Sharina Technocracy
The Federal Socialist Republics of Warta Endor
The South American Union
The Democratic People's Republic of Indochina
The Philippines Protectorate
The United Federation of Military Command
The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia
The Indian Republic
The Kingdom of United Netherlands
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics
The People's Republic of Asian China

If you want to be added to this list, please submit a reply herein and we will consider the proposal [likely to be followed by an offer to establish an embassy].



ALM Coalition forces in the UAE have begun to press on Dubai and Abu Dhabi. For all of the rhetoric that Sistan gave, their forces were rather poorly organized and trained. Nonetheless, it was more of Sistani fanaticism that gave Emirate forces the largest pain, as they demonstrated subhuman characteristics in their offensive and defensive strikes. At some point, numerous commanders suggested that they "were not fighting humans, but rather devils." The General Staff was not available to comment onn these events, although numerous analysts suggested that Sistani propoganda had distorted the mindframe of the people living in Sistan, and as such would entail a long and hard occupation in those territories. Regardless of these events, the Emirate maintains it cooperation in the pacification of Sistani territories.

The United Caucasian Republics will be sending Ludwig Rugen, Minister of Inudustry to the Ceremonial Opening. We hope this operation accomplishes all it set out to do.

Today at 1245pm French Time the Government Leaders of the Britteny Provinced sent word to the French Government asking to open talks to be allowed to reenter the French Empire. The French Government responded say that they will allow the Britteny Province reenter the French Empire and they will also keep all Government Personal in place until the next election in the area. So today the Sky Marshal Andrew MacKenzie signed the decree allowing the Britteny people back into the arms of the French Empire and also into the United Federation of Military Command.

Secret IC:

Deep inside Shar-Intel Headquarters at an unspecified location in Idaho

Several people dressed in uniforms were assembled around a conference table, along with multiple large LCD screens surrounding the table. An elderly gentleman spoke up.

"It has been reported that the government of Vietmexico is teetering on the verge of collapse. Should Vietmexico fall, it may lead to a chain reaction of destabilization in the Americas."

A woman that could be mistaken for a supermodel spoke.

"Sharina has been attempting to stabilize and unify the Americas for several decades. We must continue in our mission to do so."

Another woman, older and more distinguished, responded.

"Agreed. If Vietmexico should fall, it is most likely that Dweladelfia Prime will attempt to capitalize on this, and expand into former Vietmexicoan territory. This cannot be allowed, as Dweladelfia Prime's actions may lead to further chaos in the Americas as evidenced by their activities in the Caribbean, which would be counter-productive to Sharina's mission."

The old gentleman nodded before making his statement.

"Very well. One option is to insert Sharinan spies and spread pro-Sharinan propaganda within Vietmexico. In addition, we should begin mobilizing troops and assets as quickly as possible in our South American holdings. We should also put our Caribbean Fleet and holdings on a heightened alert status. We should prepare for possible conflict with Dweladelfia Prime if the Vietmexico situation turns bad."

A cloaked figure sat on a chair in the darkness, revealing nothing but a silouhette and the garb. His voice conveyed a sense of coldness and finality.

"The suggestions are approved. If Dweladelfia Prime decides to interfere in Vietmexico should it fall, apporpiate action must be taken. If necessary, Sharina will ensure that the threat Dweladelfia Prime may present is effectively neutralized.

Go and see that everything is done."

For the first time in over a decade, Sharina is emerging from its isolation. A sleeping giant has been awakened, and the future will be changed in more ways than one.

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OOC:

If Vietmexico comes back and everything, then this RP will be considered to never have happened. If he is kicked out of Earth V for inactivity, then this RP will be considered "canon" to Earth V.



Imperial Chambers

The High command was assembled at the footsteps of the emperor’s throne.

"Milord, the Vietmexican government is about to fall. IF that is the case we must march south to take there former lands, to unite South America as a whole."

"We have already gotten word from the EATO; they back our claim to the Vietmexican land."

"I suggest spreading propaganda in the Vietmexican land. To show the people there we are just like them. To show the glories of being an imperial citizen."

"I suggest that we begin deploying troops near the Vietmexican territory. And start moving in ground troops near the boarder."

"I appreciate all of your concerns. I agree with them all. Contact the propaganda department. Have them fly over and drop leaflets. As well as anti sharnian propaganda. I expect them to become involved also. Deploy the navy to blockade strategic ports in the Vietmexican territory. Dismissed."

The High command members rose and yelled out. "For the glory of the Empire!"

OOC: I can already see this rps going to end up like the red sea war.

OOC: I can already see this rps going to end up like the red sea war.
OOC: It wouldn't, don't worry. I'm almost certain.

But Sharina: Where's your military declaration?

Great Romeo secretly announces to close allies that our military has reached 25% of its expected size (OOC: See my new military declaration), and is expected to continue to increase on-track due to our new oil exporting program and frequent foreign arms sales.

Great Romeo secretly announces to close allies that our military has reached 25% of its expected size (OOC: See my new military declaration), and is expected to continue to increase on-track due to our new oil exporting program and frequent foreign arms sales.
Message to Great Romeo
Subj: The People's Republic of Asian China are looking for a new oil contract.

We are lacking 800,000 bbl crude oil/day. We must as soon as possible make a deal with someone, preferable with someone in close proximity to Asian China, as we would prefer to import the oil by a pipeline. If you're able to export oil to Asian China, please let us know.

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees.

Message to Great Romeo
Subj: The People's Republic of Asian China are looking for a new oil contract.

We are lacking 800,000 bbl crude oil/day. We must as soon as possible make a deal with someone, preferable with someone in close proximity to Asian China, as we would prefer to import the oil by a pipeline. If you're able to export oil to Asian China, please let us know.

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees.
Reply to the People's Republic of Asian China

President and Chairman Hu Jintao,

We have reviewed your nation's request, and it is our pleasure to announce we will agree to an oil pipeline, particularly from our oil facilities in the Urals and Caspian Sea.

Senator Milan Srecko
Republican Republic of Great Romeo

OOC - [EV-Fact] Gaelic Federation, The (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11722169#post11722169)
[EV-Diplomacy] The Britannic Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11722389#post11722389)

IC -

The Gaelic Federation wishes to invite the following nations to a Conference which shall be held with-in Edinburgh, located in Scotland.

1. Dekapolis
2. The Military Command
3. The 'NPC' State of Wales
4. The United Earthlings

A letter has been sent to the respectable nations' leaders. We hope to see some positive feed back.

OOC - The link would basically be your invitation

The UCR would like to announce to Completion of Operation Thunderstrike.
All objectives have been met. Time schedule was met. A follow-up report will commence at a later date.

With the recent riots in Laos and Cambodia, while they have stopped, the Indochinese government realizes it is going down the wrong path of government. Thus, the SWPI Politburo has begun a series of democracy/civil rights-oriented reforms.

Opposition parties, while still unable to hold power legally, have been legalized in the country. However, they will still remain under heavy regulation, and parties bidding for secession of any individual republic or the overthrow of the Democratic People's Republic of Indochina, along with fascist ideology parties, will remain banned.

News sources other than the Indochinese State News Agency will be legalized, although they will be regulated. News sources with overly anti-DPRI sentiment, such as Fox News will remain banned.

Limited peaceful protests will be allowed in highly regulated areas. These protests will be carefully monitored by riot police, and the message of said protests will also be regulated.

Emigration will be legalized, although there will be a strict cap on how many and who exactly can leave the country.

In addition to these and other civil rights reforms, the DPRI will be introducing a new government budget. This government budget will continue to take the focus off the military (about 9% before budget change) and will be dedicated to development projects and education within the nation.

Finally, the most loved reform yet. Revolutionary Leader Đào Thi Cam has announced her intentions to abolish the position of Revolutionary Leader early.
"I'm in my thirties, yet I feel like an old woman," Cam stated in an interview about the move, "I can't do this for the rest of my life."
The position of Revolutionary Leader, set to end at Cam's death, will now be abolished in fifteen years, in which Cam plans to retire from DPRI politics and "live as normal of a life as I can."

Secret IC:

Actually, the two spies (codenamed VIPER and PYTHON) were on their way to Egypt via two Dornier Alpha Jet MS2 aircraft. The flight plan was from ETSF to LIEE (545nm) to LIEE to HEAZ (1225nm), with refueling at each airport.
Secret IC:

VIPER and PYTHON met up with JULIET, KILO, and SIERRA PAPA (OOC: Accidently called him the wrong codename before :)) outside of Almaza AFB. However, they discovered a problem after arriving.

"WHAT THE FUCK!" JULIET yelled after hearing ricocheting shots off the van.

Promptly, he dove into the back of the van, fed and cocked the MG-43 machine gun, and knocked the left door open as positioning himself behind the right door.

SIERRA PAPA notified JULIET, "No police contacts near us on the scanner. Take care of them!"

JULIET opened up fully automatic fire on the beat-up taxi complete with two guys with World War I rifles hanging out the windows chasing them. After around twenty shots, the hood area of the taxi was so shot-up the pursuers gave up.

But at that very moment, a SAIPA Citroën Xantia car skidded in a burnout to line up with the agents' van. Knowing that this meant business after disabling their first vehicle, he pulled out his ERYX short-range man-portable SACLOS-based wire-guided anti-tank guided missile launcher. The second the car stablilized with guys hanging out of the windows with RPG-7s, JULIET fired the missile.

He watched the fireworks jubilantly as the van continued to the safe house, where they would lie low for awhile. JULIET knew this was a simple scare tactic, as someone knew they were in Cairo.

The following forces from all over the UFMC left at 0600 hours French Time Zone.

Republic of Korea Military
1st ROK Army
1st ROK Fleet
5th ROK Flotilla
1st ROK Marine Division
15th ROK Tactical Combined Wing
5th ROK Tactical Combined Wing
19th ROK Tactical Fighter Wing
20th ROK Tactical Fighter Wing

Imperial Japanese Military
Northern Army:
2nd Army Division
5th Army Division
7th Army Division
11th Army Division
1st Artillery Brigade
1st AntiAircraft Artillery Brigade
1st Tank Group
3rd Engineer Brigade
Escort Flottila 1
Escort Flottila 4
Landing Division 1
Northern Air Defense Force:
Headquarters,Northern Air Defense Force
2nd Air Wing
3rd Air Wing
Northern Aircraft Control & Warning Wing
3rd Air Defense Missile Group
6th Air Defense Missile Group
1st Base Air Defense Group
Air Rescue Wing
1st Tactical Airlift Group
2nd Tactical Airlift Group
3rd Tactical Airlift Group
Air Traffic Control Service Group
Tactical Reconnaissance Group
1st Air Depot

5th Russian Combined Arms Army
14th Russian Special Designation (Spetsnaz) Brigade
Pacific Fleet

Those forces that can take there equipment on Aircrafts they will be on French soils as soon as they can be there. All other forces should be there within a week or two weeks.

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People's Republic of Asian China


Message to the People's Republic of Indochina

We have noticed the disturbances in your country, the southern neighbor to the Guangxī Zhuàngzú province and the Yúnnán Shěng.
We are closing the main border crossing at Hekou - Lao Cai until we know what the situation in the People's Republic of Indochina will evolve to. As this is the only land border crossing to Laos/Vietnam that used to be open to non-Asian Chinese people, the trade and tourism in the area will suffer significantly from this.

Zhao Ziyang
General Secretary of the Asian Chinese Communist Party (ACCP)

The following forces from all over the UFMC left at 0600 hours French Time Zone.

Those forces that can take there equipment on Aircrafts they will be on French soils as soon as they can be there. All other forces should be there within a week or two weeks.
The East China Sea

The SSN Shan Sang Li (Submarine, type 093) was getting so many echoes on the screen, the operator thought the equipment was failing. He immediately called the XO, who stared at the black and green screen with wide-open eyes.

"Prepare torpedoes in the first, second, third and fourth tubes! Prepare cruise missiles! Take us to periscope deep, we got a message to send!" The XO Dong Fangzhuo was doing just like he should in a situation like this. The message he sent to the base outside Shanghai was this:

We're having many contacts in direction zero five three and zero eight eight. Probably large naval movements from Japan and South Korea. We will keep looking. Going down again.

When the message was sent to the HQ outside Shanghai, SSN Shan San Li dived again only leaving a very tiny ring at the surface, which disappeared almost immediately.

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People's Republic of Asian China


Secret message to Great Romeo
Dear friendly nation, we're having a problem here in Asian China.
We're having a couple of very important islands outside our coast, with important military equipment installed. We don't want to patrol the area 24/7 as we're doing today, so now we're going to ask you to sell Russian sea mines to us. We would like to buy 1,000 PLT-3 mines, if that's possible.

Zhao Ziyang
General Secretary of the Communist Party
People's Republic of Asian China

OOC: BUMP For Great Romeo

[ooc: We could make a new thread... but I'm using the main IC thread for now. But maybe we should make a new thread, since Granate has already done that...]

Updates from the Emirate:

The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages, and we invite all nations of the world to visit the ceremonial conclusion to an epic venture into tapping the power of the Mediterranean and the Desert. Emir Jalal shall be present to commence the ceremony and likely to have his word on several events occuring in the world.

For simplicity's sake, only nations that have formally established an embassy with the Emirate [or an otherwise valuable ally - in which case, we need to formalize relations quickly...] may attend. The list is as shown:

The Republican Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs
The Boer Republik
The Empire of Dweladelfia Prime
The Democratic Republic of Arabicia
The Confederate States of America
The Sharina Technocracy
The Federal Socialist Republics of Warta Endor
The South American Union
The Democratic People's Republic of Indochina
The Philippines Protectorate
The United Federation of Military Command
The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia
The Indian Republic
The Kingdom of United Netherlands
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics
The People's Republic of Asian China

If you want to be added to this list, please submit a reply herein and we will consider the proposal [likely to be followed by an offer to establish an embassy].




The Confederate States of America will send General Edward Mortimer, head of all army operations on the East Coast of the CSA.

ooc: to help confuse things in South America...

Padre Island Naval Base, Texas...

Commodore Jameson, of the South Atlantic Command entered Admiral Broadfleet's office.

"Admiral Sir, reports show that the government of Vietnamexico is faltering, if we are to expand further in the Americas now is our chance, Houston has placed judgment regarding the situation in your hands".

Such an important assignment sounded like a good idea to the Admiral "Very well, what are other nations up to?"

"Too soon to say sir, no doubt The Technocracy are eyeing this up - all that 'bringing stability to America' stuff. We are near dead sure that the Brazilian empire also wants a piece of the cake."

"It would be impossible for us to launch a protracted campaign south of Brazil, and given that we have no idea what the Technocracy will want, we should leave it".

"I would suggest this sir, if I may." The Commadore produced a map.

"The Falklands?"

"It may be too late to get involved on the mainland, but we could get substantial naval forces into Stanley within a week. If we could consolidate that, we could move on to try and capture Tierra Del Fuego."

"That's well and good, but your use of the word capture suggests military action."

"Only time will tell - but you need to act now".

"Very well, get a task force into the Falklands"

"Yessir, I'll begin preparing forces."

The Commodore left the room at a brisk walk, getting ready to dispatch forces to the South Atlantic. In Padre Island, and Mayport naval bases, several ships got ready to head out to sea.

The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages, and we invite all nations of the world to visit the ceremonial conclusion to an epic venture into tapping the power of the Mediterranean and the Desert. Emir Jalal shall be present to commence the ceremony and likely to have his word on several events occuring in the world.

For simplicity's sake, only nations that have formally established an embassy with the Emirate [or an otherwise valuable ally - in which case, we need to formalize relations quickly...] may attend. The list is as shown:

The People's Republic of Asian China
As neither the Government nor the Asian Chinese Communist Party does think this is an interesting event, they'll send the Ambassador in Alif Laam Miim, Li Weifeng to attend to this capitalistic spectacle.

Wu Bangguo
Chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress
People's Republic of Asian China

OOC: No OOC-offence, this is just the way the communist regime in Asian China deals with this kind of stuff.

Chaotic elements in the Empire have been overthrown, and the Gov't has reassumed control over the country.

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People's Republic of Asian China


Message to the People's Republic of Indochina

We have noticed the disturbances in your country, the southern neighbor to the Guangxī Zhuàngzú province and the Yúnnán Shěng.
We are closing the main border crossing at Hekou - Lao Cai until we know what the situation in the People's Republic of Indochina will evolve to. As this is the only land border crossing to Laos/Vietnam that used to be open to non-Asian Chinese people, the trade and tourism in the area will suffer significantly from this.

Zhao Ziyang
General Secretary of the Asian Chinese Communist Party (ACCP)

To: Zhao Ziyang

While our country is stabilizing, we understand your need to keep our northern border closed. We hope this will not last long and that the border will be reopened as soon as possible.

Proum Sokha, DPRI Foreign Minister

The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages, and we invite all nations of the world to visit the ceremonial conclusion to an epic venture into tapping the power of the Mediterranean and the Desert. Emir Jalal shall be present to commence the ceremony and likely to have his word on several events occuring in the world.


I, Revolutionary Leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Indochina, would like to personally attend this event.

Đào Thị Cam, Revolutionary Leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Indochina

As neither the Government nor the Asian Chinese Communist Party does think this is an interesting event, they'll send the Ambassador in Alif Laam Miim, Li Weifeng to attend to this capitalistic spectacle.

Wu Bangguo
Chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress
People's Republic of Asian China

OOC: No OOC-offence, this is just the way the communist regime in Asian China deals with this kind of stuff.

ooc: none taken... icly, the list has been updated with those people stating that they have a vested interest [somewhat] in witnessing the events.

[ooc: We could make a new thread... but I'm using the main IC thread for now. But maybe we should make a new thread, since Granate has already done that...]

Updates from the Emirate:

The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages, and we invite all nations of the world to visit the ceremonial conclusion to an epic venture into tapping the power of the Mediterranean and the Desert. Emir Jalal shall be present to commence the ceremony and likely to have his word on several events occuring in the world.

For simplicity's sake, only nations that have formally established an embassy with the Emirate [or an otherwise valuable ally - in which case, we need to formalize relations quickly...] may attend. The list is as shown:

The Republican Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs
The Boer Republik
The Empire of Dweladelfia Prime
The Democratic Republic of Arabicia
The Confederate States of America
The Sharina Technocracy
The Federal Socialist Republics of Warta Endor
The South American Union
The Democratic People's Republic of Indochina
The Philippines Protectorate
The United Federation of Military Command
The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia
The Indian Republic
The Kingdom of United Netherlands
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics
The People's Republic of Asian China

OOC: You're using an outdated form of my nation's name. It's "The Right-conservative Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich" ;).

IC:

Die Rechtskonservativ Monokratie Großdeutsches Sechste Reich will send Abu Karim Muhammad al-Jamil ibn Nidal ibn Abdulaziz al-Filastini.

OOC: BUMP For Great Romeo
President and Chairman Hu Jintao,

We have reviewed your nation's request, and it is our pleasure to announce we will agree the purchase at a discounted rate of 75% off current market price.

Senator Milan Srecko
Republican Republic of Great Romeo

President and Chairman Hu Jintao,

We have reviewed your nation's request, and it is our pleasure to announce we will agree the purchase at a discounted rate of 75% off current market price.

Senator Milan Srecko
Republican Republic of Great Romeo
SIC

This is very great, a pleasure doing business with you as always, Mr. Srecko. We owe you one, for the great price of the mines, I'll remember that!

It would be good if you were able to deliver the mines to the Guangzhou East Airfield. The runway there is large enough to land an Antonov An-124, if you're using that kind of plane for this transport. Speaking of it, we would love to buy a couple of An-124 if that's possible.
We will of course inform you of the new location of the sea mines, when they are laid down.

Just a side note, I'm having some sources that tells me that Great Romeo is a member of the capitalist EATO-alliance, is that really correct?

Your comrade to the south,

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees

The military forces that left a week ago started to put to port in the French Empire and they started to unload. The units that were able to fly have been there for a week already and where training already with the French Military.

Open Announcement

The Republican Republic of Great Romeo hereby announces that all alliances we have entered into and/or requests to enter into alliances are void and invalidated. We can maintain much better relations through pacts with specific countries. For that reason, the Balkan Steel (BS) alliance with Vineyard is uneffected.

We also announce today that Senate elections will be held throughout our nation tomorrow.

SIC

This is very great, a pleasure doing business with you as always, Mr. Srecko. We owe you one, for the great price of the mines, I'll remember that!

It would be good if you were able to deliver the mines to the Guangzhou East Airfield. The runway there is large enough to land an Antonov An-124, if you're using that kind of plane for this transport. Speaking of it, we would love to buy a couple of An-124 if that's possible.
We will of course inform you of the new location of the sea mines, when they are laid down.

Just a side note, I'm having some sources that tells me that Great Romeo is a member of the capitalist EATO-alliance, is that really correct?

Your comrade to the south,

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the party and state Military Affairs Committees
Secret IC

President and Chairman Hu Jintao,

We will ship all the mines on one Antonov An-225 Mriya to Guangzhou East Airfield as soon as production of the mines is finished.

As for your proposal to purchase Antonov An-124 transport aircraft, we would jubilantly accept such an order. However, we must know the exact amount.

As for the rumors, we are only formally allied with Vineyard at the moment.

Your comrade to the north,
Senator Milan Srecko
Republican Republic of Great Romeo

-Public Announcement to the world, via Satilite. Aired from Zagreb-

Citizens of the world, rejoyce!

Since the restoration of the Vineyardian Empire, Regent Windsor has taken it opon himself to Restore the World Learning project, and has once again renewed the Libraries, labrotories, classrooms, and offices in the Building, even expanding the Library to emcompass all recent works. As such, the tower is being re-opened to the scholars of the world, all of whom must pass an entrence test in order to only accept the most intellegent of the world's populaces.

The Tower will be under 24/7 guard by a brigade of Military poliece. In addition, the Tower will play host to any and all nations citizens, and will as such be designated international territory.

We look forward to the renewed efforts and interests by the international community in this program.

Secret IC

President and Chairman Hu Jintao,

We will ship all the mines on one Antonov An-225 Mriya to Guangzhou East Airfield as soon as production of the mines is finished.

As for your proposal to purchase Antonov An-124 transport aircraft, we would jubilantly accept such an order. However, we must know the exact amount.

As for the rumors, we are only formally allied with Vineyard at the moment.

Your comrade to the north,
Senator Milan Srecko
Republican Republic of Great Romeo

I'm very happy that the rumors about EATO, just were rumors. We were thinking that such a great nation as Great Romeo cannot be a part of the capitalist alliance, but we wanted to double check. You know, if you ever get into trouble, you can count on our support.

Very good with the mines, we're really looking forward to get them delivered.

We didn't know that you're using the Antonov An-225? We have heard many good things about that giant, but we didn't think it were in use. Are they still manufactured?
We're in need of a big airlifter, and the An-225 would be really great, but the An-124 will fit our needs. The perfect mix would be if we could buy one An-225 and nine An-124.

Signed,
Hu Jintao

Semi-management declaration [only because this is to clarify the claims game currently in force...]:


WORLD NEWS

From the Emirate and the World, this is your midnight news, with Said as-Salaam and Nadiyah al Qadir.

N::: World news from an unbiased perspective, indeed. We have a lot of troubling news coming from around the world. We'll start from home, shall we, Said?"

S::: Absolutely. First order of business, after months of waiting, the Emir Jalal ibn Mahmud Al Misri has confirmed reports of the Emiress Malika al Bahiyya's pregnancy. Doctors have been authorized to reveal that the Emiress is not with just one child, but twin. Karyotypes, carefully done so as not to violate traditional Sharia, reveal that the twins are genetically as identical as possible. Historically, twins of any sort were considered curses, but quoting the Emir's announcement - "Allah has doubly blessed our house".

Official word on the status of the two children has not been yet confirmed. Unofficial sources suggest that the children are both males.


The 7th Army Group - to be based in Emirate affiliated territory in Dubai - has nearly finished training in Negev Desert, in cooperation with Kopparbergs Armed Forces. This new venture - both an attempt to lax the tensions between the Emirate and Kopparbergs, and to open cooperative environments between Muslims and Jews - was met with success and optimistic arms by both governments. In a Ministry of Defense Report, it has concluded that "while disagreeable on points of religious fervor, Kopparbergs remains a respectable ally. Their tolerance of Muslims likewise rings a tone of brotherhood between our two faiths. It would be unsound strategy - therefore - to neglect cooperation and collective interests in the Middle East."

Nadiyah, what about the world?

N::: Well, the Emirate continues to make progress in the former United Emirates territory of Sistan. Dubai was recently freed and Abu Dhabi is being fiercely contested, and all the while, Emirate casualties have remained moderate. There have been some protests in the Emirate about this campaign, but government police have been cautious to maintain the status quo. In polls, no significant majority could decide that the Emirate's intervention in Sistani territory was good or bad. Of those polled, many did agree that Asherton posed a more severe threat, since they were a still functioning government that endorsed an extremist ideology of Islam. {Abd Al-Rahman ibn Ibrahim, Professor Emeritus at the University of Al Iskandariyah.} "The greatest threat against Islam is extremism. There are those who distort the words of Allah for the benefit of their advances. And while I would not consider myself the most devout Muslim in the world, I think that the divisive role of charismatic leaders has proven to sway the opinion of many Western states that Islam is a completely volatile religion, which ought to be regulated - if not extinguished. Extremism in Islam also tends incite violent thoughts from our neighbors, especially the Jews and the Christians. But if we can all realize that Islam is nature a peaceful religion and that Allah - while smiteful - is also quoted to be 'Most Gracious and Most Merciful,' we can find a better discourse that opens the world to the Islamic world."

N::: In other news, the government in the South American Union has collapsed after years of ineffectual government led to a disorganized coup that rapidally disintegrated into chaos and anarchy. The Emirate has issued a statement of caution for citizens and foreign visitors to avoid that region until a stable government arises once again.

S::: After riots broke out in the Democratic People's Republic of Indochina, the government has issued statements, permitting more "open and democratic processes" to fill the country once again. Furthermore, the national leader stated that she would be stepping down, in lieu of recent events, saying that politics and public life are a difficult road.

Riots in the United Kingdom were crushed, as rumors of foreign invasion had been plaguing the country for weeks. Unconfirmed reports of a massed invasion by the Empire of France have gone without comments from either government at the posting of these events.

N::: The operations in Morocco, Spain, Crete, and Cote d'Ivoire remain high concerns for Emirate citizens. While pleased with the quick pacification of these territories, people have expressed some pessimism that the world is turning increasingly imperialistic, less oriented towards the welfare of people and charity. Emirate Ministrial Services have offered no comments on these events.

S::: We'll have the weather after this commercial break.

Open Announcement

The Republican Republic of Great Romeo hereby announces that all alliances we have entered into and/or requests to enter into alliances are void and invalidated. We can maintain much better relations through pacts with specific countries. For that reason, the Balkan Steel (BS) alliance with Vineyard is uneffected.

We also announce today that Senate elections will be held throughout our nation tomorrow.


Secret IC

President and Chairman Hu Jintao,

We will ship all the mines on one Antonov An-225 Mriya to Guangzhou East Airfield as soon as production of the mines is finished.

As for your proposal to purchase Antonov An-124 transport aircraft, we would jubilantly accept such an order. However, we must know the exact amount.

As for the rumors, we are only formally allied with Vineyard at the moment.

Your comrade to the north,
Senator Milan Srecko
Republican Republic of Great Romeo

OOC: EATO isnt even cpaitalist........ Im an Empire and Im a member....

[ooc: We could make a new thread... but I'm using the main IC thread for now. But maybe we should make a new thread, since Granate has already done that...]

Updates from the Emirate:

The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages, and we invite all nations of the world to visit the ceremonial conclusion to an epic venture into tapping the power of the Mediterranean and the Desert. Emir Jalal shall be present to commence the ceremony and likely to have his word on several events occuring in the world.

For simplicity's sake, only nations that have formally established an embassy with the Emirate [or an otherwise valuable ally - in which case, we need to formalize relations quickly...] may attend. The list is as shown:

The Republican Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs
The Boer Republik
The Empire of Dweladelfia Prime
The Democratic Republic of Arabicia
The Confederate States of America
The Sharina Technocracy
The Federal Socialist Republics of Warta Endor
The South American Union
The Democratic People's Republic of Indochina
The Philippines Protectorate
The United Federation of Military Command
The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia
The Indian Republic
The Kingdom of United Netherlands
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics
The People's Republic of Asian China

OCC: I've changed the name of my nation to the Iberian Netherlands for future refence.

IC: Our nation would be honored to attend this ceremonial, but before we do. Our government would like to inquire as to what this Qattara Project is.

Secret IC (the intent and such is secret IC, the deployments are not):

Deep in the rugged mountains somewhere in Nevada

A cloaked figure watched a large LCD display with numbers, symbols, and figures scattered in a seemingly organized dance of chaos. Several figures and symbols were laid over particular locations on the LCD map of two continents and a series of islands.

Several large symbols in the Pacific Ocean section revealed that there were substantial numbers of large warships bearing down onto the South American Pacific coastlines. No less than six Nimitz carriers, four Montana battleships, two Iowas, and dozens of AEGIS cruisers and destroyers were arrayed in Task Force I. A concentration of submarines, denoted "Fast Attack I" were set on a course towards Tierra Del Fuego and the Straits of Magellan.

Another large group of symbols and figures rested in the Caribbean section of the map. The concentration was nearly double the size of Task Force I, as the symbols revealed two additional Task Forces. Task Force II was located halfway between the Sharinan provinces of Cuba and Mexico, with similiar ship numbers as Task Force I. Task Force III was located to the east of the Bahamas, and similiar numbers of ships were present as well. Task Force IV was located between Hawaii and California, denoted with a P sign for "Patrol", and Task Force V was similiarly situated in the Atlantic Ocean, in the general vicnity of New England, close to Cape Cod with its mission clearly labelled as "Patrol".

Several airplane figures scattered throughout Sharina were colored yellow, denoting high alert status, with the ability to launch aircraft at a moment's notice. Airbases in Latin America were labelled with a "AP" symbol, denoting "Active Patrol". 50% of the aircraft in bases with AP symbols were in the air at all times.

Several missile symbols in Latin America were also colored in yellow. However, one difference was that the majority of these missiles were aimed towards Costa Rica, a long-time thorn in Sharina's side. Several missile bases situated south of Costa Rica had their missiles aimed at Peru and northwestern Brazil at key Dweladelfia Prime bases and possible venues of troop concentrations. Missile sites in Alaska and western Canada were also at yellow status, with missile lines converging onto the Bering Straits and various points along the Alaskan / Canadian coastline.

Several representations of infantry and ground military assets were shown in Alaska, western Canada, Ecaudor and Colombia, New England, Honduras, Guatemala, and Panama. Every one of these were at yellow status. What seems like the other half of the infantry and ground assets were scattered throughout the rest of the Sharinan territory, and were at green status, which meant normal alert status, a step under yellow status. The exception were troops in Illionis, Iowa, and Wisconsin as they were newly acquired Sharinan territory and the troop symbols were colored yellow.

The cloaked figure smiled as he took in all these new recent deployments and spoke to himself.

"Excellent. Things are going just as planned."

Sharina was going to war, but the question was when and with whom.

[SIZE="1"]The Qattara Project is nearing its final stages
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs


OOC: Did I anser to this? Anyhow...

IC: The Kingdom of Kopparbergs will send George Lilja, the Secretary of Industry, to attend to this event.

TO take care of everything at the moment:

The Qattara is a massive hydroelectric project that seeks to utilize the Qattara depression as a natural sourrce to hold water being funneled from the Mediterranean. The power from this project is expected to provide enough electricity to power much of the northern coast of the Emirate from as far west as Benghazi to Alexandria. Moreover, the Qattara Project seeks to utilize the water collected in the Qattara Depression for agricultural purpose, after filtering out the salt and marketing it for domestic and industrial uses - if not also for export. In addition, the project itself will power the development of a new industrial sector around Mersa Matruh and the region surrounding. The unfortunate side-effect would be the significant loss of habitats in the Qattara Depression - anything below -50 meters in elevation will be submerged perrmanently.

The ceremony to occur will celebrate will celebrate the first dispersal of water through the tunnels [guarded to prevent large lifeforms from entering the Qattara Depression and likewise to avoid sucking in small ships - as a precaution, these vessels are asked to avoid the area for at least two weeks]. We are uncertain when we can afford to utilize the water from the potential, but the electricity will be constantly produced, and mostly safeguarded from natural harms, as much of the project is underground, covered by at least 10 meters of soil. Estimates suggest that Lake Qattara will fill up to its designated level by the second week, after which the water flow can be regulated by solar evaporation, tunnel restrictions, and auxiliary water uses - including a seconday pump system that will provide additional power for the project in sum.


Point of the invitation: A great investment that began before the Sistan Conflict is about to finish with much exalted success, and we want the world to share in its awe as the Emirate continues to make progress in modernization and competence in world markets, aside from whatever else we provide.

We will note all those invited who have declared their intentions to attend:

The Right-Conservative Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs
The Boer Republik
The Empire of Dweladelfia Prime
The Democratic Republic of Arabicia
The Confederate States of America
The Sharina Technocracy
The Federal Socialist Republics of Warta Endor
The Democratic People's Republic of Indochina
The Philippines Protectorate
The United Federation of Military Command
The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia
The Indian Republic
The Kingdom of Iberian Netherlands
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics
The People's Republic of Asian China

Sharina will be sending one of its premier energy physicists, Rufado Jugade, to attend the proceedings at the Quattara Project.

I'm very happy that the rumors about EATO, just were rumors. We were thinking that such a great nation as Great Romeo cannot be a part of the capitalist alliance, but we wanted to double check. You know, if you ever get into trouble, you can count on our support.

Very good with the mines, we're really looking forward to get them delivered.

We didn't know that you're using the Antonov An-225? We have heard many good things about that giant, but we didn't think it were in use. Are they still manufactured?
We're in need of a big airlifter, and the An-225 would be really great, but the An-124 will fit our needs. The perfect mix would be if we could buy one An-225 and nine An-124.

Signed,
Hu Jintao

Your order is welcomely confirmed, as always. -Senator Milan Srecko

International press comment:

The recent Sharinian military actions performed on our national election day confirm the fact that Sharina does not have any regard for diplocracy or national sovereignty. -Senator Milan Srecko.

SIC:

With news of the new hightened state of alert in Sharinian territory, the entire Great Romeoian armed forces were immediately put on a hightened state of alert as well. Costa Rica was to undergo the same defensive plan as last time, but forces in Russia were also at the ready. Moreover, the revamping of the Great Romeoian military was suddenly put on the hot burner. The infantry forces were now estimated to be ready in six months.

SIC to DP:

We wish to assure your government that we have meant no harm in cancelling all alliances. Moreover, we fully support any claim DP has over Vietmexican territory.

-Senator Srecko

Sharina releases the following statement.

"We have evidence that Dweladelfia Prime is preparing to utterly and completely violate the national sovereignty of the nation of Vietmexico, despite there being trouble within Vietmexico. Great Romeo's words are pure hypocriscy, and should be clearly discounted, as they claim Sharina is violating national sovereignty when it is Dweladelfia Prime who is about to do so.

Sharina is not interested in Great Romeoan politics or election days. We are not interested in attacking or engaging in hostilities in Europe, Africa, or Asia. American affairs shall stay American."

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Secret IC:

With the veiled threat of Great Romeo, troop concentrations are increased throughout the Pacific Coastlines and New England. Defensive fortifications, trenches, and works are sped up. Minelayers begin laying mines approximately 10 miles off the Alaskan and western Canadian coastlines. F-16 and F-22 patrols are increased by 75% along the same coastlines. The "Fast Attack II" task force of submarines is ordered to the North Pacific, and several ballistic missile submarines put out to sea as well. The payloads of the submarines remain unknown.

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OOC:

Cookies to anyone who can guess which Doctrine I'm speaking of in my statement.

OOC:

Cookies to anyone who can guess which Doctrine I'm speaking of in my statement.
OOC: Monroe!

[OOC- With the Roosevelt Corollary thrown in!]

Sharina releases the following statement.

"We have evidence that Dweladelfia Prime is preparing to utterly and completely violate the national sovereignty of the nation of Vietmexico, despite there being trouble within Vietmexico. Great Romeo's words are pure hypocriscy, and should be clearly discounted, as they claim Sharina is violating national sovereignty when it is Dweladelfia Prime who is about to do so.

Sharina is not interested in Great Romeoan politics or election days. We are not interested in attacking or engaging in hostilities in Europe, Africa, or Asia. American affairs shall stay American."

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Secret IC:

With the veiled threat of Great Romeo, troop concentrations are increased throughout the Pacific Coastlines and New England. Defensive fortifications, trenches, and works are sped up. Minelayers begin laying mines approximately 10 miles off the Alaskan and western Canadian coastlines. F-16 and F-22 patrols are increased by 75% along the same coastlines. The "Fast Attack II" task force of submarines is ordered to the North Pacific, and several ballistic missile submarines put out to sea as well. The payloads of the submarines remain unknown.

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OOC:

Cookies to anyone who can guess which Doctrine I'm speaking of in my statement.

Dweladelfia Prime is not violating the national sovereignty of the nation of Vietmexico. We are merely waiting for the government to die so that we can go in and save the people form the evils of anarchy. It is you who is violating there national sovereignty. You have no right to claim there land. You have no ethnic ties to tem or boarder with the nation. You have no right to challenge a peaceful nation such as ours to claim is brethrens lands.

Dweladelfia Prime is not violating the national sovereignty of the nation of Vietmexico. We are merely waiting for the government to die so that we can go in and save the people form the evils of anarchy. It is you who is violating there national sovereignty. You have no right to claim there land. You have no ethnic ties to tem or boarder with the nation. You have no right to challenge a peaceful nation such as ours to claim is brethrens lands.

Sharina publically dismisses Dweladelfia Prime's statement with a response.

"You just admitted that you are willing to violate Vietmexico's sovereignty. You declared that you are waiting for the Vietmexico's government to fall and then you move in. What of the wishes of the Vietmexican people? Don't they get a say in a new government?

Don't get us started on being a 'peaceful' nation. Your people ruthlessly and mercilessly annexed Haiti and Dominican Republic, as well as other Caribbean islands. A truly peaceful nation as you claim yourselves to be would not annex those lands through force as you have actually done.

What's more, your statement of ethnic solidarity with Vietmexico is false. Brazil is comprised of Portugese, Africans / ex-slaves, and Brazilian indigieous natives, while Argentina and others are Spanish with some Italians, British, and other nationalities. Hardly 'solidarity', given that Portugal and Spain, as well as the other Europeans are different from each other in more ways than one.

Therefore, your statements are all hypocritical and false."

UARCA News Blitz!

This is Mardan Shostak with Autonomous Press Syndicate's News Blitz! Here are the highlights of the news from the week:

Tuesday, Tashkent:
A government spokeperson announced that a delegation was being sent to an unveiling of a project by the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim. No word yet on what this unveiling or project will entail.

Tuesday, Northeastern Iran:
An army spokesman said that the situation, though still touch and go in places, was firmly under control in ex-Sistani lands. With the parts of multiple divisions moving into areas that continue to show at-times ferocious resistance, the casualty counts have piled up. Multiple counterattacks were beaten off along the crossroads to the East of tehran, and it appears UARCA troops have ceased all forward movement into Iran.

Wednesday, South America:
With confirmed reports that the Vietnamexican government has fallen, South America appears to be ready to be plunged into chaos. With combative and conflicting reports from both dwelfadelfian Prime and Sharianian sources, the situation remains muddied.

Wednesday, Mongolia:
With forces flooding across the border, the UARCA government announced that it was moving troops into Mongolia to protect against imperialist interests and threats to the Mongolian people. There have been reports of little to no fighting, as UARCA troops have moved rapidly across the vast and un-populated regions of Mongolia. Sources inside the capital say that fighting is only expected to increae once inside Ulaan Baator.

Thursday, Western China:
Sources within the military report lessened fighting in most areas of China, with resistance now only concentrated in more heavily-populated regions in the South-East. Casualties have remained moderate, but are expected to mount rapidly as UARCA troops begin encountering increasingly heavy resistance from terrorists and their allies in the defunct Chinese Armed Forces.

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Transcript from Diplomatic Message to Great Romeo
Current events in your territories, especially Russia, have given us cause to be alarmed. Sources and intelligence say that mobilization of most military toops has taken place in Russia, and conscription and training has been increased. We in the UARCA are wary of these actions and request explanation- why are the troops being mobilized?

Should we receive no tangible reply, the UARCA will be forced to begin mobilization in response, in the event that the mobilization poses a threat to the UARCA.

Premier Navarbayevs

Sharina releases the following statement.

"We have evidence that Dweladelfia Prime is preparing to utterly and completely violate the national sovereignty of the nation of Vietmexico, despite there being trouble within Vietmexico. Great Romeo's words are pure hypocriscy, and should be clearly discounted, as they claim Sharina is violating national sovereignty when it is Dweladelfia Prime who is about to do so.

Sharina is not interested in Great Romeoan politics or election days. We are not interested in attacking or engaging in hostilities in Europe, Africa, or Asia. American affairs shall stay American."

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Secret IC:

With the veiled threat of Great Romeo, troop concentrations are increased throughout the Pacific Coastlines and New England. Defensive fortifications, trenches, and works are sped up. Minelayers begin laying mines approximately 10 miles off the Alaskan and western Canadian coastlines. F-16 and F-22 patrols are increased by 75% along the same coastlines. The "Fast Attack II" task force of submarines is ordered to the North Pacific, and several ballistic missile submarines put out to sea as well. The payloads of the submarines remain unknown.

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OOC:

Cookies to anyone who can guess which Doctrine I'm speaking of in my statement.

With the increased military activity detected in the North American Region, the Netherlands government was indeed hoping a World War would not result from the conflict in South America, but South American affairs were to stay South American affairs. Following the conflicting reports came in the Netherlands government issued the following public statement.

The growing threat from our North American neighbors grows every day. They seem to be bent on a imperialistic course of action. As such to guarantee our nations sovereignty and those of our allies. As of 0900 hours local time, I have order all Reserves stationed in South America to report for duty. Furthermore, the entire Royal Forces have been put on High Alert. All ships have left port or are preparing to do so. Air Patrols are to be increased in both frequency and duration. Should war come to South America and us. Our nation will never again be caught with its head between its legs.

Thank you and may peace be with us all.

-Office of Regent Windsor, Imperial palace-

"Sir, this just came in." A page put down a series of photographs of the Americas, showing heat blooms and military movements within the Technocracy of Sharina.

Regent Windsor raised an eyebrow.

"Hmmm.." Regent Windsor said, putting down his glasses and leaning back in his black leather chair. Have the Generals Ready for a conference in 15 minutes.

"Aye sir!" The page saluted and scurried out of the room to fufil his task in an efficent manner. Regent Windsor sighed. Sharina had always had qualms about the Vineyardian empire. Hopefully this wasn't a move in support of EATO.

-15 minutes later, conference room-

Dragomir Ljubomir Zlatan, Ante Andro Dragan, Orso Nazario Ilario, and Vlaho Slavko Vlatko were present in the room, with 4 holograms projecting the faces of 3 other men, the commanders of the 2ed, 3ed and 4th battlegroups. A rather large flag was projected in the fifth, to signify the Imperial guards commander, whose identity was highly classified to all but Regent Windsor.

"Good evening gentlemen... and person." he said glancing at the Croatian Flag hologram. A metallic sort of chuckle emited from the flag. "We have seen some extraordinary activity in the Americas recently. I have had the data forwarded to all of your computers, please take a moment to examine this.

The Generals all accessed their laptops, with the hologram flag emitting some
interesting sounds, obviously the voice distorter working to cover up some movement at the other end of the line.

"Well..?" Regent windsor questioned, raising an eyebrow and surveying the room.

"They could be moving in favor of EATO.."

"My thoughts exactly!"

"Perhaps it is a move ON EATO?"

No one spoke. Oluwasegun Babajide Nthanda's suggestion seemes to evoke all sorts of thoughts in the minds of the conference atendees. The Hologram showing Oluwasegun's head tilted to the side, his mouth contorted, almoast as if he was uneasy saying that.

"What the devil would posess them to do that?" Regent Windsor mused.

"Well sir, although they look down opon the Empire, the reason they do such is because of our wars with them and much of the Americas. Well, EATO is waging wars these days, wars without sence or logic, wars without any justification. If history does indeed repeat itself, Sharina may be just going after them!" Oluwasegun said, shrugging.

The Metallic voice of the Imperial Guards commander crackled to life. "I could have my boys find out.."

Regent windsor turned. "And how exactly do you plan to do that?"

A Metallic grating was heard, obviously the person sighing. "I could have Imperial Intel units in nutural territory there within 2 days. Plain clothes, weapons and equiptment can be stored in their cargo. They never scan that stuff at any rate. only problem is, once they are there, they have no way of getting around without vehicules and/or currency."

Regent Windsor stroked his chin. The Empire of Vineyard rarely engaged in forign trade, let along sent its currency abroad..

"Ok, do it. Send about 50 men to Texas or something. I din't care. Just find out what all this hub-ub is all about."

"Your will is my command" The metallic voice crackled.


-Munich-
"Woher kommst du?" a seemingly bored security worker asked as he was glaring at a passport that claimed this passenger came from Romania.

The man behind the counter shook his head and shrugged, feigning ignorance in german. In Reality, Corpral Steuben, half german half croatian, was the Imperial Guards Intelegence Mission Commander. Since the conference that took place hours ago, Regent Windsor privatly changed their destination to Detroit. Their mission was minipulated from one of gathering Information about Sharina's military movements to also spying on Military Command's government; and if possible find out any information about their future plans.

"Ich sagt zu du guten tag..." The security guard said, speaking slowly. Steuben was taken aback. This man was treating him like a retard! Steuben didn't let his emotions show however, and only played on the man's established stereotype, smiling softly and nodding while inching forward slowly, as if he ws unsure as to what he was doing. As he distanced himself from the guard, his pace briskened and his attitude grew more serious, more efficent. He entered the terminal after depositing his numerous bags for the cargo secton of the plane, and went into the lobby area.

Now this was hopeless.

All 49 of his men had grouped together and were talking in Croatian, drawing quizzical stares from other passengers as they pretended to busy themselves. He had to disperce them.

Quickly he tripped himself into a metallic trashcan, causing the can to smack the ground with a loud clang. Steuben regained his balance , saying "My, what flock we have today!" in Romanian. Using the commotion as a cover, his men dispersed due to the coded message their commander had said. Some went to pick up the trash can, while others changes seats or went to the consession stands, sitting down in different seats. Steuben, now with a rather large red mark on his forehead, smiled and proceeded to a corner seat.

This was going to be a looong trip.


-SIC telegram to Sharina-

Our satilites have recently picked up military activity in your country. We demand an explaination, least it be a preperation for a strike on the Empire!

If otherwise, let us know. We may be of some assistance.

-Regent Windsor

Sharina publically dismisses Dweladelfia Prime's statement with a response.

"You just admitted that you are willing to violate Vietmexico's sovereignty. You declared that you are waiting for the Vietmexico's government to fall and then you move in. What of the wishes of the Vietmexican people? Don't they get a say in a new government?

Don't get us started on being a 'peaceful' nation. Your people ruthlessly and mercilessly annexed Haiti and Dominican Republic, as well as other Caribbean islands. A truly peaceful nation as you claim yourselves to be would not annex those lands through force as you have actually done.

What's more, your statement of ethnic solidarity with Vietmexico is false. Brazil is comprised of Portugese, Africans / ex-slaves, and Brazilian indigieous natives, while Argentina and others are Spanish with some Italians, British, and other nationalities. Hardly 'solidarity', given that Portugal and Spain, as well as the other Europeans are different from each other in more ways than one.

Therefore, your statements are all hypocritical and false."

What's more is that the people are direct descent from our people and our cousins. We will not be sitting idly by while either you or the Brazilian Empire annexed those nations. We are no longer waiting to sit this one out and let you two start a war over land and people neither you have claim to. They are our brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts and uncles. The people of South America were settle long ago from my peoples descents. We will be bringing democracy and stability back to our long lost descents. However, we are willing to allow your two nations to help our brothers and sisters but be warned. We will protect our brothers until our dying breath.

-Telegram to UARCA-

Dear ... whatever your culture is called,

We hope you do not tempt fate in Iran, as our troops, having been in the feild for far too long, may not recognize your troops from that of the enemy's.
Also, be advised that the area has been over-run by (what we believe to be) enemy troops, all of whom the Empire may have to bomb one way or another in the near future. 'Tis a shame indeed that your troops are down there. There may be colatteral!

You have been warned.

-Regent Windsor.

Open Message from the UARCA to the world
We have just received a rather interesting message from the nation of Vineyard. I present it to the nations of the world to decide upon its intent as they so see it.

-Telegram to UARCA-

Dear ... whatever your culture is called,

We hope you do not tempt fate in Iran, as our troops, having been in the feild for far too long, may not recognize your troops from that of the enemy's.
Also, be advised that the area has been over-run by enemy troops, all of whom the Empire may have to bomb one way or another in the near future. 'Tis a shame indeed that your troops are down there. There may be colatteral!

Have a good day.

-Regent Windsor.

Any attack upon UARCA personnel will be met immediately with maximum retaliatory force from the UARCA and her allies. Do not try us and do not deign to threaten us.

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Premier Tamur Navarbayevs

To: Regent Windsor
From: President Andrei Johnson

Although you have our support in Iran. We would dearly like for you to try at minimize attacks on UARCA Troops. In return for doing this we will allow you to use UCR Bases in our newly aquired Northeastern Iran. From here you may launch Aerial Attacks on Unoccupied Iranian Territory.

We hope that you will listen to your allies in this. If worst comes to worst, we will grugdingly support you in your actions as a RSA Ally. Should this happen, we may have a need to assimilate more Iranian Terrain. Namely Tehran itself.

Remember we still support you in your actions.

Sincerely
Andrei Johnson
President, UCR

Open Message from the UARCA to the world
We have just received a rather interesting message from the nation of Vineyard. I present it to the nations of the world to decide upon its intent as they so see it.



Any attack upon UARCA personnel will be met immediately with maximum retaliatory force from the UARCA and her allies. Do not try us and do not deign to threaten us.

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Premier Tamur Navarbayevs

-Official Public Responce-

While it is true that the Empire had sent such a telegram, the UARCA is invading territory under the jurisdiction of the Red Sea Alliance. Such a move is blatent disregard not only for the nations of the Red Sea Alliance, but countless thousands who died as a result of a war which the UARCA did not participate in. The UARCA are, simply put, profitting on the deaths and wars of other nations by occupying parts of Iran. The Empire and its ally of Great Romeo have no problem with defending such claims and rebuking such greedy actions such as those taken by the UARCA.

-Regent Windsor

To: Regent Windsor
From: President Andrei Johnson

Although you have our support in Iran. We would dearly like for you to try at minimize attacks on UARCA Troops. In return for doing this we will allow you to use UCR Bases in our newly aquired Northeastern Iran. From here you may launch Aerial Attacks on Unoccupied Iranian Territory.

We hope that you will listen to your allies in this. If worst comes to worst, we will grugdingly support you in your actions as a RSA Ally. Should this happen, we may have a need to assimilate more Iranian Terrain. Namely Tehran itself.

Remember we still support you in your actions.

Sincerely
Andrei Johnson
President, UCR


-SIC telegram to President Andrei Johnson-

Dearest Allies,

We are trying to avoid a war with the UARCA. However, they are 'giving the finger' to the members of the RSA, all of whom fought the war from which they are now profiting from. The Empire, along with the members of RSA, cannot allow such greed to progress further into Iran. If the UARCA does not cease its agression, our hands will be regretably forced.

We will accept your offer of having bases in Granate-held Iranian territory. If possible, we wish to send the 2nd Battlegroup to the region to aid and speed up your progress in Iran.

We also beg your troops to occupy territory currently claimed by other members of the RSA. Seeing how the UARCA has little regard for our partitioning of Iran, We believe that if your troops were to occupy that land in order to keep it out of the UARCA's hands, that the RSA would be eternally grateful. As to the nation's of the RSA territorial claims, they should be surrendered to them as soon as they have the troops necessary to replace yours in such a provence, so as to keep the UARCA from gaining further ground and to avoid cheating any member of the RSA out of what is rightfully theirs.

-Regent Windsor

-SIC telegram to President Andrei Johnson-

Dearest Allies,

We are trying to avoid a war with the UARCA. However, they are 'giving the finger' to the members of the RSA, all of whom fought the war from which they are now profiting from.

We will accept your offer of having bases in Granate-held Iranian territory. If possible, we wish to send the 3ed Battlegroup to the region to aid and speed up your progress in Iran.

-Regent Windsor
To: Vineyard

What we meant by Bases is that you would use ours until the time when we saw fit that you didn't need them anymore. This is basically to assist you in Assimilating whats left of Iran. We would feel better if you didn't have permanent bases on our soil.

Our progress has been complete for some weeks now, since the Completion of Operation Thunderstrike. We have accomplished all Goals for that plan and even a few more, namely the Province of Kurdistan.

We will only begin to advance again if and when our Forces are at full strength and the Regions we have Assimilated have quieted down a significant amount. Until that time any incusions we might make we only be Patrols or Raids against Rebels.

We also recommend that you allow the UARCA keep their territory seeing as it is mostly desert. Nothing major is there apart from sand and salt.

But remember, not matter what action you take, you will still have our support if not full.

Sincerely
Andrei Johnson

The Dubh Linh Times

Today the President of the Gaelic Federation announced that the Britannic Conference shall be held in two weeks *Basically, lets say September 26th - 29th* for a number of days over specific regional issues. As well, the President and Prime Minister wishes to establish better relations with their English neighbor. Other subjects of the matter shall also include trade.

Please stay tuned for more on this event.

In an announcement to the International world, The Netherlands Government has to long sat idly by while the region of South American has descend into nothingness. To return hope to the people and bring them ever lasting peace. An Peacekeeping Force has been sent to the region.

Once control of the areas has been achieved elections will be held in all nations for the people and their nations to decided their own fate. We ask for the support of the international community.

Thank you and God Bless.

OCC: here's the thread-http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501048

-Internal Command in Bosnia, Sarajevo-

25,000 reservists are to be promptly sent to Granate for 3-year loan. The troops are to serve whatever purpose Granate directs them to.

-Orso Nazario Ilario



ooc: Since the war's end, the Reservists were not used in combat, but they have not, however been disbanded due to the fact that resistance continues in many areas of the globe as a result of the war. As such, the Empire finds its home countries being garisoned by Reservists and the 1st and 4th battlegroups, while the Imperial Guard are in Greece, 2ed is in Russia and the 3ed in Syria. In addition, about 100,000 have been tasked to occupy and assimilate Cyprus.

Sharina releases the following statement.

"It is not our intent to initate hostilities aganist United Earthlings. We are still interested in maintaining peaceful relations with United Earthlings.

The nation of Dweladelfia Prime has clearly indicated its naked imperialism and desire to engage in military action aganist the people of Vietmexico without giving the Vietmexican people a say in any new government.

If Dweladelfia Prime was truly peaceful as they claim to be, they wouldn't have annexed Haiti, Dominician Republic, and various tiny Caribbean islands by force, and also blatantly declare that they would send in military forces into Vietmexico the instant it collapses.

What if Dweladelfia Prime seeks to annex United Earthlings once they finish annexing Vietmexican lands?"

OFFICIAL EDICT FROM AL QAHIRAH, THE EMIR'S PALACE:

Ladies and Gentlemen, Esteemed National Leaders from around the World, and countless others;

I - Emir Jalal ibn Mahmud ibn Abbas Abd-Allah AL Misri, Emir of Egypt, of Tripoli, of Nubia, of Bahrain, Sheikh of Qattara, Commander of the Alif Laam Miim Coalition, and Sovereign Guardian of the United Emirates - hereby offer my sincere condolences to those, the subject of much violence and ill-warranted hostility. In recent months, the destabilizing effects of the Persian Empire of Sistan has been cleared felt throughout the entire world. As their state threatened oppression upon the Middle East and likewise aggressive began pursuing hostile policies with her neighbors. It comes from this belligerence that an unwarranted attitude of insecurity has begun to swarm the world with madness. In the Americas, the collapse of government has led to bickering between regional powers. In Asia, uncertain futures in China have garnered much attention - perhaps even from Allah - as to what crimes therein lie. In Europe, the fall of Spain, Greece, and of Russia have accompanied several attempts to push for more stable borders within and without the Red Sea Alliance.

The Emirate continues to follow its policy to neutralizing the dead Sistani threat, as while they are no longer a state, they remain a constant and unacceptable pillar of the extremist ideology. Remnants of such an ideology exist within Asherton, and while their state has not completely committed itself to the same degree of hostility against the RSA and any other power, the Emirate will continue to neutralize the Sistani threat by pursuing a campaign to restore an enlightened position and interpretation of the Sharia.

Whereas the Emirate officially holds no opinion on the recent gambles for national sovereignty and the rights therein to preserve the national security and defense thereof of foreign sovereign territories, we humbly ask of all nations to remember the welfare of the people inhabiting these territories - as while the sovereign rights of a state are acknowledge, such are the rights of all humans recognized to be likewise a responsibility for all states to monitor. Furthermore, we recognize that an official state of war between two sovereign states will likely lead to a conclusion to which neither state wishes to arrive. It is thus in our opinion that we offer sensible options to all states involved in international disputes - to arrive at compromise rather than discord.

Whether or not such wars come to pass, the Emirate wishes all a blessed evening and to all folk residing in conflict and destitution, we offer our sincere hopes that Allah shall surely keep you and that Allah shall provide the blessed Hand of redemption to these lands, that in the midst of your pain, you may yet witness the true character of humanity as that of a noble and generous lot than the barbarous and incivil lot as Satanic forces wish to contrive. We urge cooperation and collective welfare for our neighbors in despair rather than ill-washed intentions to assert the sovereignty - or especially the superiority - of any state over any other.


As-Salaam Alaikum!


Reports from Abu Dhabi have confirmed that the last significant resistance from Sistani forces in the UAE had ended about two hours ago. ALM commanders are now prepared for combat operations in Qatar, as well as naval landings in Bandar Abbas and in Hormozgan Province in general.

ALM forces in Sudan - while already mobilized - have begun preparing for an incursion into Asherton territory, with the major thrust forcing along the coast, although MoD reports remain unconfirmed about actual official targets. Furthermore, recent military breaches by Chad and the CAR have elicited Emirate action - in the form of limited air strikes against the said troops. Whereas neither Chad nor CAR have officially condoned the actions of its military, neither government has made any effort to rein their forces, prompting stern Emirate warnings that a continuation of belligerent behavior will result in a harsh recourse.

The Emirate has also set the date for the Qattara Ceremony to be set at the end of this year [Sunday RL...]. We encourage all friendly states - including those who are not officially on the list, either due to Emirate negligence or due to a lack of formal relations - in which case, we'd be glad to formalize relations. The list is updated below:

The Right-Conservative Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs
The Boer Republik
The Empire of Dweladelfia Prime
The Democratic Republic of Arabicia
The Confederate States of America
The Sharina Technocracy
The Federal Socialist Republics of Warta Endor
The Democratic People's Republic of Indochina
The Philippines Protectorate
The United Federation of Military Command
The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia
The Indian Republic
The Kingdom of Iberian Netherlands
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics
The People's Republic of Asian China

Sharina releases the following statement.

"It is not our intent to initate hostilities aganist United Earthlings. We are still interested in maintaining peaceful relations with United Earthlings.

The nation of Dweladelfia Prime has clearly indicated its naked imperialism and desire to engage in military action aganist the people of Vietmexico without giving the Vietmexican people a say in any new government.

If Dweladelfia Prime was truly peaceful as they claim to be, they wouldn't have annexed Haiti, Dominician Republic, and various tiny Caribbean islands by force, and also blatantly declare that they would send in military forces into Vietmexico the instant it collapses.

What if Dweladelfia Prime seeks to annex United Earthlings once they finish annexing Vietmexican lands?"

OCC: For Future reference, my nation's name on Earth V is called the Iberian Netherlands or just the Netherlands for short. In the past it was called the United Netherlands but when the nations that make up the Iberian Peninsula joined the United Netherlands, the name of the nation was changed to reflect the importance placed on the position the nations in the Iberian Peninsula had in the Kingdom.

IC: As are we. You have my word that no Royal Forces will cross any of your borders unless we are attacked first or one of our allies.

While the Brazilian Empire has for the past year been engaged in a imperialistic manner. Our government has worked long and hard to contain its imperialistic behavior. For the most part our two nations have gotten along well. Were not defending the Brazilian Empires past actions but you have not known or have had dealings like we have with the Brazilian Empire. While his government has displayed aggressive actions it has also displayed peaceful ones. We have been in contact with our friend and ally throughout this entire conflict from its beginning to now and trust us when we say this. Their was a valid reason for his planning military action.

While I can't say for sure that our ally and friend had the best interest of the Vietmexican people close to his heart, he did have the interests of his people to worry about. Even if DP had sent in military forces to annex those regions which as you can see he has not done, our government would of made sure that those people would of got a voice. The same voice were in the process of bring back to them. Whatever the Vietmexican people decided we will support them.

If Dweladelfia Prime was truly peaceful as they claim to be, they wouldn't have annexed Haiti, Dominican Republic, and various tiny Caribbean islands by force, and also blatantly declare that they would send in military forces into Vietmexico the instant it collapses.

The same can be said for the nations you annexed. Even though you annexed those nations by force, aren't their people better off with the new social systems you have in place for them. DP has been doing the same, as have my government. New elections were just held in Spain, Portugal, Andorra and Gibraltar.

Even though he declared he would send in troops, he hasn't done so yet. That should show he wants peace in the region as much as me and you do. In fact I have already dispatched a Peacekeeping force to the region.

What if Dweladelfia Prime seeks to annex United Earthlings once they finish annexing Vietmexican lands?

DP has shown no hostility to me, my people or my government. In fact together we brought a sense of stability to the Americas. As shown by the signing of the EATO alliance and various trade deals. We have had our differences but, in the long run we have remained friends. Good Friends. In fact you could say he has already annexed my nation and me his as both our citizens are freely allowed to pass through each others countries. Trade is open and for the first time in its history the South America continent is free from conflict.

Once Stability is returned to those countries you will see that their will be ever lasting Peace between both me and DP.

Official Release from the People's Republic of Arabicia
From: The Office of the Prime Minister Nasir

I would like to first address in this letter, the claims being made to the hard won Iran. We in Arabicia find it deplorable that any nation would attempt to claim lands it had not won. It is this fundamental principle that cause the People's Republic to speak out against the actions taking by the officials in the UARCA.

The Red Sea Alliance had long fought Sistani troops in what was a bloody conflict, in which our allies, and our own nation lost many men. Now that the Sistani Kingdom has collapsed, debts owed to the Red Sea Alliance from the former Sistani Kingdom must now be repaid. I find it evident that these reparations should now be paid in land to those participants in the war.

Both I, and the rest of the People's Republic of Arabicia firmly put our support behind Vineyard. We hope that the UARCA will see the error in their thinking they are entitled to the Sistani portion of Iran by destiny.

Abdul al Nasir, Prime Minister of Arabicia



In Riyadh

Currently Representative Louie Howe is calling for an immeadiate vote in Parliment to establish himself as governor of what he calls, Southern Arabicia, or Yemen and Oman. Howe hopes to utilize the populist political machine he has established to streamline the act and immeadiatly take control of the area. As of now reactions in Arabicia are mixed, as liberalists back the young official and the more conservative leaders are speaking out against the act boldly. As of now it appears that Howe will gain enough support to declare himself governor.

As Yemen and Oman's leadership is up in the air, the two new provinces of Arabicia are growing safer. Arabician troops now report a decline in small arms violence in Sanaa and Yemen, and are downgrading the situation in Muscat from military operation to heavy police presence. The chance now places a reserve unit in the area and recalls the Army division formerly engaged. Arm of Allah forces are currently suspected to be hiding in Oman's countryside. Republican Guard commanders are preparing to attack the AOA's remaining forces along with their Emirate allies.

OOC:

A new thread

Securing Cape Verde Islands (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501099)

-Greece-

The Imperial Guard has completely dug in around Athens, beinging a blockade into effect. The Entire Imperial navy lays off the coast of Athens, turning away any surface ships while a nasty submarine net snags any submarins hapless enough to become ensnared in the trap. The air was being patrolled by Typhoon Eurofighters and the troops on the ground set up SAM batteries. The attrition seige of Athens had begun, and its intention was to starve out the Military command troops or convince them to withdraw. All civilian food shipments had ceased as well, in order to prevent any food from finding its way into the hands of the enemy troops.

Dweladelfia Prime denounces the evil empire of sharnia. We have not brought any harm to the people of any nations we have annexed. We have improved there life’s greatly. They still enjoy freedoms just as they would in a democracy. Shania claims that we have not right to be there. Well neither do they. We have more a right to be there then they do. Forces are being sent to the region as we speak. Any action against these forces will be an act of war and will bring vengeance from the empire and its ally Military command.

Padre Island Naval Base, Texas...

A large collection of green blips in the Carribean represented the Sharinan movements. A single Confederate battlegroup had headed off towards the Falklands, and were now into the Atlantic, the main body of the force could be seen, as well as screens of nuclear attack submarines to either flank. The course of the group was arcing wide out into the Atlantic around Brazil, so as not to arouse too much suspicion from the Empire of Brazil.

The Confederate 1st Expeditionary Battlegroup:
1 Mississippi Class CV - (Based on the hull of the Kitty Hawk Class)
3 Ticonderoga Class CG
2 Indian Class CGH
1 Cobra Class CGN
6 Destroyers
6 Frigates
3 Troops Transports
2 Amphibious Assault
5 SSNs
4 SSKs


For now the CSA was not going to take sides. Siding with EATO could result in devastating war with the Technocracy, whilst siding with Sharina could see a cut in atlantic supply lines. This one would be played quietly...

Dweladelfia Prime denounces the evil empire of sharnia. We have not brought any harm to the people of any nations we have annexed. We have improved there life’s greatly. They still enjoy freedoms just as they would in a democracy. Shania claims that we have not right to be there. Well neither do they. We have more a right to be there then they do. Forces are being sent to the region as we speak. Any action against these forces will be an act of war and will bring vengeance from the empire and its ally Military command.

Sharina once again dismisses Dweladelfia Prime's statements.

"You claim you didn't bring harm to the people of the nations you have annexed. This is not true. How many soldiers were killed in the wars of annexation? How many nation-natives recieved news that their sons, fathers, brothers, uncles, daughters, mothers, sisters, and aunts were killed by Dweladelfian forces? How many native soldiers had families who now mourn their deaths? That is harm.

If you desire to speak of semantics of 'more a right', we can play at that game. Sharina has a substantial ethnic Spanish populace in Central America, Cuba, and the southern regions of the former United States. In addition, Sharina does have a mix of different ethnicities such as Italians, French, British, Native-Americans, Africans, and so forth. Take the Sharinan lands of Mexico, California, New England, and Cuba for instance. Combined, they have more Spanish-descent citizens than there are in Dweladelfia. Argentina has a substantial majority of Spanish, German, Italian, Irish, and Scandic descended citizens, and Sharina has far more citizens of these ethnicities than Dweladelfia. Chile and Uruguay are predominatly Spanish-speaking and ethnically. Bolivia is also strongly Spanish, but with substantial groups of Germans and Native-Americans.

Thus, Sharina has technically more of a right to these regions than Dweladelfia, considering that Dweladelfia is primarily of Portugese descent, whereas Sharina has millions upon millions of citizens from various ethnic groups such as Spanish, German, Italian, Native-American, French, etc. So ethnically, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, and Uruguay are more closely tied to Sharina than to Dweladelfia.

Should Dweladelfian forces set foot in these four nations, it will be considered and treated as an act of war aganist Sharina and her people."

Sharina once again dismisses Dweladelfia Prime's statements.

"You claim you didn't bring harm to the people of the nations you have annexed. This is not true. How many soldiers were killed in the wars of annexation? How many nation-natives recieved news that their sons, fathers, brothers, uncles, daughters, mothers, sisters, and aunts were killed by Dweladelfian forces? How many native soldiers had families who now mourn their deaths? That is harm.

If you desire to speak of semantics of 'more a right', we can play at that game. Sharina has a substantial ethnic Spanish populace in Central America, Cuba, and the southern regions of the former United States. In addition, Sharina does have a mix of different ethnicities such as Italians, French, British, Native-Americans, Africans, and so forth. Take the Sharinan lands of Mexico, California, New England, and Cuba for instance. Combined, they have more Spanish-descent citizens than there are in Dweladelfia. Argentina has a substantial majority of Spanish, German, Italian, Irish, and Scandic descended citizens, and Sharina has far more citizens of these ethnicities than Dweladelfia. Chile and Uruguay are predominatly Spanish-speaking and ethnically. Bolivia is also strongly Spanish, but with substantial groups of Germans and Native-Americans.

Thus, Sharina has technically more of a right to these regions than Dweladelfia, considering that Dweladelfia is primarily of Portugese descent, whereas Sharina has millions upon millions of citizens from various ethnic groups such as Spanish, German, Italian, Native-American, French, etc. So ethnically, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, and Uruguay are more closely tied to Sharina than to Dweladelfia.

Should Dweladelfian forces set foot in these four nations, it will be considered and treated as an act of war aganist Sharina and her people."
Were did I kill any of the people in the nations I annexed. There were VERY few deaths in any of these annexations. And yes you have Latin Americans. That’s a separate bloodline then those in South America. Completely different. Many of these nations I wish to take over also are protégées. Don’t say I’m the devil in this. You are. You are the evil empire that wishes to hurt and kill the inhabitants in these nations. And stepping foot in these lands are not an act of war against you. Because you don’t even own them.

Were did I kill any of the people in the nations I annexed. There were VERY few deaths in any of these annexations. And yes you have Latin Americans. That’s a separate bloodline then those in South America. Completely different. Many of these nations I wish to take over also are protégées. Don’t say I’m the devil in this. You are. You are the evil empire that wishes to hurt and kill the inhabitants in these nations. And stepping foot in these lands are not an act of war against you. Because you don’t even own them.

Sharina counters.

"Very few deaths? It does not matter whether it was 1 death or 100 million deaths. People actually got harmed and suffered harm, whereas you claimed that those people suffered no harm whatsoever.

Seperate bloodlines? This fact is false, considering Spanish Conquistadors attacked regions in what is now known as Latin America and South America. The Spaniards conquered and established colonies all across these regions after conquering the Aztec Empire in Latin America and the Inca Empire in South America. Eventually the Spaniards expanded into all reaches of South America, except for Brazil which was within Portugal's sphere of influence as per Treaty of Tordesillas.

The majority of Spanish-speaking and ethnic Spanish populaces in Latin and South America are descended from Spain. Seperate bloodlines imply that these people came from different Spain's. If there were two, three, four, or more Spain's then your statement would have some merit. However, the fact still remains that the same Spanish people launched their conquests and colonization efforts in both Americas in question.

You do not necessarily have to own land to declare war on someone. For instance, in 1939, England and France declared war on Germany for invading Poland, which is land that England and France doesn't own. You have repeatedly made it clear that you intend to commit military action aganist those four nations in South America, and in commiting such actions, you are the one who will cause harm to those people. You will be depriving some Argentinian, Chilean, Bolivian, and Uruguayan families of their loved ones.

Claims of protégé status? Such arrogance. Vietmexico has never been Dweladelfinan, and unless Vietmexico was a Dweladelfian puppet state which is quite unlikely, the claim of protégé is laughable.

Drop the innocent peaceful act, as we know better."

Were did I kill any of the people in the nations I annexed. There were VERY few deaths in any of these annexations. And yes you have Latin Americans. That’s a separate bloodline then those in South America. Completely different. Many of these nations I wish to take over also are protégées. Don’t say I’m the devil in this. You are. You are the evil empire that wishes to hurt and kill the inhabitants in these nations. And stepping foot in these lands are not an act of war against you. Because you don’t even own them.

No one owns anyone, slavery under international law is outlawed. While DP has engaged in the annexation of Islands, so has many other nations including my own government. While all of us during those conflicts wished to have kept civilian losses low they did happen and its not something our governments should be proud of. Without some short of loss, no good can come without having experience some loss.

And let it be shown that the Netherlands government has worked long and hard to bring democracy to the benefit of the nations that have not known freedom. As of this moment we are also, sending a force to return those nations that have descended into chaos back into a stabilize democratic country.

Thus, Sharina has technically more of a right to these regions than Dweladelfia, considering that Dweladelfia is primarily of Portugese descent, whereas Sharina has millions upon millions of citizens from various ethnic groups such as Spanish, German, Italian, Native-American, French, etc. So ethnically, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, and Uruguay are more closely tied to Sharina than to Dweladelfia.

While that may be true, we have more of right to those regions than Sharina does. It was our forebears that set out from our lands for the New World. The entire Central American and South American regions were colonized by us long ago. Dweladelfia is more closely tied to us and the region then the region is tied to your nation. This is why my government and the Dweladelfia government are such good friends and allies.

Let me make our position clear- while you may have a small amount of territory in South American, most of your population is located in North America. South American interests are going to stay South American. The vast majority of South America is ruled over by our two Governments me and DP. We fully support our friend in sending troops to restore order. When order has been restored both our governments will make dam sure their people have a free choice into what type of government they want and the course of action they want.

Should Dweladelfian forces set foot in these four nations, it will be considered and treated as an act of war against Sharina and her people."

Should Sharina Forces set foot into those four nations and any lands owned by the Brazilian Empire, the action will be viewed as a act of war against my people and we will responded with the full force of our weapons. We do not wish war, but should it come will we honor our alliances and the friends we have made. The tide is against you, however you may turn it to back towards you and maintain peace by leaving the South American question up to those that make up the majority of South America.

-Greece-

The Imperial Guard has completely dug in around Athens, beinging a blockade into effect. The Entire Imperial navy lays off the coast of Athens, turning away any surface ships while a nasty submarine net snags any submarins hapless enough to become ensnared in the trap. The air was being patrolled by Typhoon Eurofighters and the troops on the ground set up SAM batteries. The attrition seige of Athens had begun, and its intention was to starve out the Military command troops or convince them to withdraw. All civilian food shipments had ceased as well, in order to prevent any food from finding its way into the hands of the enemy troops.

If you have not seen I have removed all my post about being in Greece. So your post is not needed. You have Greece because I was told that was to either change my invision or delet them by TG6R.

-Munich-
"Woher kommst du?" a seemingly bored security worker asked as he was glaring at a passport that claimed this passenger came from Romania.

The man behind the counter shook his head and shrugged, feigning ignorance in german. In Reality, Corpral Steuben, half german half croatian, was the Imperial Guards Intelegence Mission Commander. Since the conference that took place hours ago, Regent Windsor privatly changed their destination to Detroit. Their mission was minipulated from one of gathering Information about Sharina's military movements to also spying on Military Command's government; and if possible find out any information about their future plans.

"Ich sagt zu du guten tag..." The security guard said, speaking slowly. Steuben was taken aback. This man was treating him like a retard! Steuben didn't let his emotions show however, and only played on the man's established stereotype, smiling softly and nodding while inching forward slowly, as if he ws unsure as to what he was doing. As he distanced himself from the guard, his pace briskened and his attitude grew more serious, more efficent. He entered the terminal after depositing his numerous bags for the cargo secton of the plane, and went into the lobby area.

Now this was hopeless.

All 49 of his men had grouped together and were talking in Croatian, drawing quizzical stares from other passengers as they pretended to busy themselves. He had to disperce them.

Quickly he tripped himself into a metallic trashcan, causing the can to smack the ground with a loud clang. Steuben regained his balance , saying "My, what flock we have today!" in Romanian. Using the commotion as a cover, his men dispersed due to the coded message their commander had said. Some went to pick up the trash can, while others changes seats or went to the consession stands, sitting down in different seats. Steuben, now with a rather large red mark on his forehead, smiled and proceeded to a corner seat.

This was going to be a looong trip.
OOC:
Controlling the actions of the admin's nation is usually not a good idea in the first place. :D

But there's only two major problem here: 1. WHAT'S UP WITH THE GERMAN?! My Bundeszollverwaltung is a very professional service. They would NEVER address ANYBODY with the du form, even a child. That would be taken as UNTHINKABLY rude, even more so than in modern Germany since TG6R is more conservative. 2. There is no possible way to get a weapon through any of our airports or railways without it being arranged in advance by top government officials. Our screening system has been that tight for decades now (see my airport thread). We're not modern Germany in that respect.

Minor problems include the security guard (we don't have guards wandering around the airport without a clue of what they're doing, see my airport thread to see how security is done at my airports), grammer and spelling problems in the German language when spoken by native speakers, the fact that we would know he wasn't from Romania since we do automatic facial scans and have all Romanian citizens on file, and the fact that we don't have "metallic trashcan"s.

Sharina counters.

"Very few deaths? It does not matter whether it was 1 death or 100 million deaths. People actually got harmed and suffered harm, whereas you claimed that those people suffered no harm whatsoever.

Seperate bloodlines? This fact is false, considering Spanish Conquistadors attacked regions in what is now known as Latin America and South America. The Spaniards conquered and established colonies all across these regions after conquering the Aztec Empire in Latin America and the Inca Empire in South America. Eventually the Spaniards expanded into all reaches of South America, except for Brazil which was within Portugal's sphere of influence as per Treaty of Tordesillas.

The majority of Spanish-speaking and ethnic Spanish populaces in Latin and South America are descended from Spain. Seperate bloodlines imply that these people came from different Spain's. If there were two, three, four, or more Spain's then your statement would have some merit. However, the fact still remains that the same Spanish people launched their conquests and colonization efforts in both Americas in question.

You do not necessarily have to own land to declare war on someone. For instance, in 1939, England and France declared war on Germany for invading Poland, which is land that England and France doesn't own. You have repeatedly made it clear that you intend to commit military action aganist those four nations in South America, and in commiting such actions, you are the one who will cause harm to those people. You will be depriving some Argentinian, Chilean, Bolivian, and Uruguayan families of their loved ones.

Claims of protégé status? Such arrogance. Vietmexico has never been Dweladelfinan, and unless Vietmexico was a Dweladelfian puppet state which is quite unlikely, the claim of protégé is laughable.

Drop the innocent peaceful act, as we know better."

The Empire is done arguing with the evil and stubborn dictatorship of sharinia.

Secret IC (not really that secret for the surface ships):

With the newly completed Milan Srecko Ulyanovsk class carrier acting as the flagship fully-loaded with aircraft, the rest of the 2 Kirov class battlecruisers, 6 Project 1155.1 Fregat II Class Large ASW Ships, 6 Project 956EM Sovremenny class destroyers, 10 Horizon Common New Generation Frigates (CNGF) with long range RADAR, 6 Borei class nuclear ballistic missile submarines, 10 Akula-II attack submarines, and 7 Lada class attack submarines set sail through international waters to the international waters of the Pacific Ocean. A large amount of oil tankers, cargo ships, and a strange variety of other ship types traveled in the center of the convoy with the aircraft carrier, but filled with "cargo" of certain sorts.

SIC to DP:

We wish to assure your government that we have meant no harm in cancelling all alliances. Moreover, we fully support any claim DP has over Vietmexican territory.

-Senator Srecko
OOC: You never replied, DP.

Sharina responds to the Iberian Netherlands message.

"We would like to point out that Sharina has the second largest concentration of population in South America after Dweladelfia. According to our census bureau, our Colombia province alone has 46 million people, and our Ecaudor province has 13 million people, for a combined total of nearly 60 million people. Compare this to Netherland's population of only 27 million in their Venzeula province. Thus, Sharina has more of a majority than Netherlands in South America.

Combine Sharinan South American population with the combined populace of the former Vietmexican territoriesm, and we reach a population of roughly 110 to 120 million. The majority of these people are not ethnically tied to Dweladelfia.

Telling Sharina to leave South America alone is ridiclious, given that we hold the second largest majority of populace in South America, and roughly 17% of the total population of South America. Netherlands only controls 7.5% of the South American populace, and the former nation of Vietmexico controlled roughly 16% of the total South American populace. Dweladelfina controls 61% of the total populace, which we label as 'Tyranny of the Majority' considering that the majority of Dweladelfina's population has no ethnic ties to the rest of South America as Brazil is primarily of Portugese descent while the remainder of South America is Spanish and a small mix of other European and native descent.

Thus, it is evident that Sharina has the second largest total population and the largest non-Portugese populace in South America. Thus, we are indeed a major player in South America, quite contrary to what you and Dweladelfina wants the world to believe.

We are ensuring that the former Vietmexican lands do not fall under the tyranny of Portugese-descended Brazilian Empire. We pride ourselves on allowing just and fair representation of minorities. For instance, Native Americans, one of the woefully under-represented minorities in the former United States and Canada, has been justly and fairly represented in Sharina. We even have three Native American governors, two in Canada- governor of the Yukon and Nunavut provinces- and one in the former state of South Dakota.

Dweladelfina is not a democracy, as it is an empire apparently without a senate or house of representatives. The 'council' is determined by an Emperor, which implies that democracy is not valued in Dweladelfina. This, combined with the naked intent of Dweladelfina's apparent imperialistic ambitions towards nations that share very little ethnicity and 'bond' with Dweladelfina casts a severe doubt on the guanatree of democracy in Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Chile. What is there to stop Dweladelfinian troops and officials from extorting, bullying, and intimidating the people of these four nations into voting or creating a puppet-like state democracy that is subservient to the not-so-democratic 'Empire'? Netherlands has clearly admitted it is an ally of Dweladelfina, thus the supposed impartiality of the Netherlands is also in severe doubt.

The threats of Dweladelfina and its allies do not scare Sharina. Our people shall fight to preserve the integrity and the freedoms of Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay from a rule of an Emperor and an Empire where democracy isn't held in the highest regard. We will hold the tide and turn it back to protect those in need, like the classical heroes of old!"

The Empire is done arguing with the evil and stubborn dictatorship of sharinia.

Sharina releases a responsive statement towards Dweladelfina.

"Step foot in Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, or any FOAM territory including Sharinan lands, and it will be war.

An Empire is a dictatorship, as Dweladelfina has no Senate or House of Representatives for its people to voice their concerns in. A 'council' that is appointed by the Emperor of Dweladelfina isn't exactly democratic. Thus, who is the dictator here? It is most certainly not Sharina."

Secret IC (not really that secret for the surface ships):

With the newly completed Milan Srecko Ulyanovsk class carrier acting as the flagship fully-loaded with aircraft, the rest of the 2 Kirov class battlecruisers, 6 Project 1155.1 Fregat II Class Large ASW Ships, 6 Project 956EM Sovremenny class destroyers, 10 Horizon Common New Generation Frigates (CNGF) with long range RADAR, 6 Borei class nuclear ballistic missile submarines, 10 Akula-II attack submarines, and 7 Lada class attack submarines set sail through international waters to the international waters of the Pacific Ocean. A large amount of oil tankers, cargo ships, and a strange variety of other ship types traveled in the center of the convoy with the aircraft carrier, but filled with "cargo" of certain sorts.

Sharinan satellites discover the Great Romeoian convoy, and quickly routes all the information and data to various military installations, and the hidden intelligence bases in Nevada and Idaho.

Several minutes later, orders are sent to Task Force III in the Pacific to intercept the Great Romeoian convoy, along with orders to strongly discourage the task force's course should it get within 750 miles of Sharinan territory. The Fast Attack II task force is also ordered to intercept and aid Task Force III.

Meanwhile, troop concentrations in New England, Wisconsin, and Illionis are put on heightened alert if not already done so, and aircraft patrols are increased to 75% aircraft in the air at all times in those areas.

B-52 Stratofortresses, B-2 Spirit bombers, and A10 Thunderbirds are loaded with weapons payloads including cluster bombs, JDAM's, MOAB's, and conventional dumb-bombs. The loading is done within hangars to hide the type of weapons from possible enemy satellites.

In space, Sharinan anti-satellite weapons begin tracking all Dweladelfinan, Netherland, Military Command, and Great Romeoan satellites over the Americas, but no shots are fired yet.

Sites within Netherlands, Dweladelfina, and Great Romeoian controlled Costa Rica are targetted by missile silos. Large concentrations of Netherland, Dweladelfina, and Great Romeoian naval forces are also targetted by missile silos. It is speculated that these missile silos may be holding Sharina's long range cruise missiles.

Radar and other sensor systems increase their scanning throughout Sharina's varied coastlines to watch out for any potential incoming enemy aircraft or ships. Multiple SOSUS systems also begin more active and aggressive probing for enemy submarines off Sharina's coastlines, particularly Hawaii, Bering Straits, Greenland area, New England, Panama, and Caribbean sea areas.

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Secret IC:

A note is issued to the Confederate States of America that an attack upon it is extremely unlikely, and that Sharina does not seek conflict with the CSA. The note also explains that the troop concentrations are intended to contain the territories of Military Command, namely Michigan and Ohio.

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Sharina increases its Tecon Level to III, with I being the normal level and V being Total War.

SIC To Great Romeo
To: Great Romeo
From: Andrei Johnson

We are more then a little startled by your sudden increase in force Readiness. We would not want to be threatened by our neighbor to the north. We must inquire as to why you are increasing your readiness. We are only doing this to ensure mutual safety of our border and the Caspian Sea. Until then UCR Troops along the Great Romeo and UCR border will be on in a state of Heightened Alert. Should this state last long, troops from our new southern region will be moved north.

We hope to hear from you soon

Sincerely
Andrei Johnson
President of the UCR

IC TO Everyone
The Nation of United Caucasian Republics calls for Peace in South America and asks for talks to begin as soon as possible to releive the situation in the region.

"We just came from one major way, why start another?"

Secret IC (not really that secret for the surface ships):

With the newly completed Milan Srecko Ulyanovsk class carrier acting as the flagship fully-loaded with aircraft, the rest of the 2 Kirov class battlecruisers, 6 Project 1155.1 Fregat II Class Large ASW Ships, 6 Project 956EM Sovremenny class destroyers, 10 Horizon Common New Generation Frigates (CNGF) with long range RADAR, 6 Borei class nuclear ballistic missile submarines, 10 Akula-II attack submarines, and 7 Lada class attack submarines set sail through international waters to the international waters of the Pacific Ocean. A large amount of oil tankers, cargo ships, and a strange variety of other ship types traveled in the center of the convoy with the aircraft carrier, but filled with "cargo" of certain sorts.


OOC: You never replied, DP.

We thank our great ally for there support. War is coming on the wings of the Devil Sharinia. We thank our allies for standing with us in this time of great trial when evil dictators in lands far away come to control nations that there leaders have not even set foot in. We thank Great Romeo.

Sharina releases a responsive statement towards Dweladelfina.

"Step foot in Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, or any FOAM territory including Sharinan lands, and it will be war.

An Empire is a dictatorship, as Dweladelfina has no Senate or House of Representatives for its people to voice their concerns in. A 'council' that is appointed by the Emperor of Dweladelfina isn't exactly democratic. Thus, who is the dictator here? It is most certainly not Sharina."

Dictatorships are nations that oppress there people and people of other nations. We have never oppressed our people or any others. We give freedom to our citizens just as in a democracy. Infact they elect there own governors in each of the Brazilian states. You are the evil here. The people of the former and great nation of vetinemexico do not want you there. We were an ally of vetinemxico before it fell. We are responsible for the lives of those people suffering down there. You only come to make chaos. To disrupt there lives. You are hurting them. We wish to help them. So I urge people of the world to aid us in this time of plight. Stand up against the evil empire of sharnia. Like the Nazis of the past they will not just stop and south America. They will bring there evil to all the nations.

SIC To Great Romeo
To: Great Romeo
From: Andrei Johnson

We are more then a little startled by your sudden increase in force Readiness. We would not want to be threatened by our neighbor to the north. We must inquire as to why you are increasing your readiness. We are only doing this to ensure mutual safety of our border and the Caspian Sea. Until then UCR Troops along the Great Romeo and UCR border will be on in a state of Heightened Alert. Should this state last long, troops from our new southern region will be moved north.

We hope to hear from you soon

Sincerely
Andrei Johnson
President of the UCR

IC TO Everyone
The Nation of United Caucasian Republics calls for Peace in South America and asks for talks to begin as soon as possible to releive the situation in the region.

"We just came from one major way, why start another?"

SIC Message to UCR:

Andrei Johnson,

Your nation has clearly misunderstood our intentions. We are preparing to defend Costa Rica, nothing more. Moreover, we are closely cooperating with the Vineyardians, your nation's ally.

Respectfully,
Senator Milan Srecko

Dictatorships are nations that oppress there people and people of other nations. We have never oppressed our people or any others. We give freedom to our citizens just as in a democracy. Infact they elect there own governors in each of the Brazilian states. You are the evil here. The people of the former and great nation of vetinemexico do not want you there. We were an ally of vetinemxico before it fell. We are responsible for the lives of those people suffering down there. You only come to make chaos. To disrupt there lives. You are hurting them. We wish to help them. So I urge people of the world to aid us in this time of plight. Stand up against the evil empire of sharnia. Like the Nazis of the past they will not just stop and south America. They will bring there evil to all the nations.

Another retort.

"Ah. Talk about freedom and democracy.

Sharina does the exact same thing. As we've already stated to Netherlands, we have three governors who are Native American, some of the most oppressed people in the former United States and Canada. The people chose to elect these governors, and we also practice freedoms elsewhere.

You were the ones who went after Cyprus, half-a-world-away. Not Sharina, as we have kept virtually all our business within America for the past 50 years. We have not stepped foot into Europe, Africa, or Asia.

You speak of devil and imperialism, yet you attempted to do it at Cyprus and failed. You will fail as well in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay in the same way you failed at Cyprus."

Sharina responds to the Iberian Netherlands message.

"We would like to point out that Sharina has the second largest concentration of population in South America after Dweladelfia. According to our census bureau, our Colombia province alone has 46 million people, and our Ecaudor province has 13 million people, for a combined total of nearly 60 million people. Compare this to Netherland's population of only 27 million in their Venzeula province. Thus, Sharina has more of a majority than Netherlands in South America.

Combine Sharinan South American population with the combined populace of the former Vietmexican territoriesm, and we reach a population of roughly 110 to 120 million. The majority of these people are not ethnically tied to Dweladelfia.

Telling Sharina to leave South America alone is ridiclious, given that we hold the second largest majority of populace in South America, and roughly 17% of the total population of South America. Netherlands only controls 7.5% of the South American populace, and the former nation of Vietmexico controlled roughly 16% of the total South American populace. Dweladelfina controls 61% of the total populace, which we label as 'Tyranny of the Majority' considering that the majority of Dweladelfina's population has no ethnic ties to the rest of South America as Brazil is primarily of Portugese descent while the remainder of South America is Spanish and a small mix of other European and native descent.

Thus, it is evident that Sharina has the second largest total population and the largest non-Portugese populace in South America. Thus, we are indeed a major player in South America, quite contrary to what you and Dweladelfina wants the world to believe.

We are ensuring that the former Vietmexican lands do not fall under the tyranny of Portugese-descended Brazilian Empire. We pride ourselves on allowing just and fair representation of minorities. For instance, Native Americans, one of the woefully under-represented minorities in the former United States and Canada, has been justly and fairly represented in Sharina. We even have three Native American governors, two in Canada- governor of the Yukon and Nunavut provinces- and one in the former state of South Dakota.

Dweladelfina is not a democracy, as it is an empire apparently without a senate or house of representatives. The 'council' is determined by an Emperor, which implies that democracy is not valued in Dweladelfina. This, combined with the naked intent of Dweladelfina's apparent imperialistic ambitions towards nations that share very little ethnicity and 'bond' with Dweladelfina casts a severe doubt on the guanatree of democracy in Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Chile. What is there to stop Dweladelfinian troops and officials from extorting, bullying, and intimidating the people of these four nations into voting or creating a puppet-like state democracy that is subservient to the not-so-democratic 'Empire'? Netherlands has clearly admitted it is an ally of Dweladelfina, thus the supposed impartiality of the Netherlands is also in severe doubt.

The threats of Dweladelfina and its allies do not scare Sharina. Our people shall fight to preserve the integrity and the freedoms of Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay from a rule of an Emperor and an Empire where democracy isn't held in the highest regard. We will hold the tide and turn it back to protect those in need, like the classical heroes of old!"

As King William I, Willem Drees and Ben Bot read over the message and during a meeting lasting all night as to how to respond. The words they choose today would affect the outcome of tomorrow. After much debate and arguing the following message was sent.

Our Government is not interested in arguing over semantics. Our government and troops will be their to ensure that any government that comes to power in the formal Vietmexico nations is free elected, if you so wish you may also send people to watch over the elections to make sure their free. While you may doubt may governments impartiality actions speak louder then words. Any government that comes to power in those formal nations will be freely elected and will truly represent the people of their country. On my word you can be sure of that.

We were not threatening you in any of our past messages. Yet, you have repeatedly threaten me and my allies over and over again. Now you point weapons of mass destruction and conventional weapons at my people. Where have we showed such hostile intent towards you or your people to warrant such an action. None, that's what. You are bent on conquest as shown by your actions. If your government will only respond to threats so be it. Going to war with my nation and that of my allies will only see the destruction of your nation and its people! The world is against you yet you continue to march towards war when the rest of us want Peace. IF YOU WANT WAR SO BE IT! The time for talk is over and the time for action is now.

I have requested the Brazilian Empire to send troops to help me in the Peacekeeping Operation. If, anything goes wrong with this Peacekeeping Operation. My government is willing to take the blame if it fails. Are you willing to take the blame for the destruction of your people?

This is our final and last message concerning this matter. You still have a choice. Stand down your forces.

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Following the message sent to the Sharina Government the following orders were sent to the Royal Forces wherever they may be.

1. All Reserves are to report to duty.
2. All Royal Forces are to be put on Red Alert.
3. All Ships are to set sail ASAP.
4. All Aircraft are put to the highest alert. The first sign of any Sharina aircraft even approaching the borders of Venezuela or any of DP's territory are to be shot down without warning.
5. Any Sign of military personnel nearing those same borders are to be fired upon without warning.
6. The governments of the EATO alliance will be contacted to coordinate a war plan.

Within a few hours almost the entire resources of the Kingdom had been brought online for defense of the kingdom. War was blowing, could it be stopped only time would tell.

Another retort.

"Ah. Talk about freedom and democracy.

Sharina does the exact same thing. As we've already stated to Netherlands, we have three governors who are Native American, some of the most oppressed people in the former United States and Canada. The people chose to elect these governors, and we also practice freedoms elsewhere.

You were the ones who went after Cyprus, half-a-world-away. Not Sharina, as we have kept virtually all our business within America for the past 50 years. We have not stepped foot into Europe, Africa, or Asia.

You speak of devil and imperialism, yet you attempted to do it at Cyprus and failed. You will fail as well in Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay in the same way you failed at Cyprus."

As you know I saw the error of my ways and back off of Cyprus which I will admit. You don’t admit anything you do that’s wrong. You need to realize that you are committing the devils work. I was a former ally of vetinmexic and those people are my responcabilty. If you want to continually be stubborn and outright rude then continue. All you are doing is make a fool of your nation.

Goodbye.

Sharina releases one final statement to the Netherlands.

"We only pointed weapons at you after the fact that you declared that you would go to war with Sharina should Sharina enter Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay to fight off Dweladelfinan troops that would be invading. If someone tells you 'I'll beat you up if you hit my friend even if my friend hits you first', you will be obliged to take the necessary precautions.

If you had not declared your intent to support the imperialistic nation of Dweladelfina, then Sharinan weapons would not be aimed your way. That simple.

Dweladelfina has failed in its attempt to annex Cyprus. It will fail to annex Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, and Paraguay. We were willing to give peace a chance, but Dweladelfina has destroyed any hope for peace with repeated messages with the intent to annex those nations that may not want to be annexed.

If we are fated to meet on the battlefield, so be it. Remember this though, it will be Sharina who stands victorious over Dweladelfina and consquently the nations of Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, and Paraguay will remain free and democratic as they rightly deserve to be, not bowing down to some silly Emperor."

Sharina releases one final statement to the Netherlands.

"We only pointed weapons at you after the fact that you declared that you would go to war with Sharina should Sharina enter Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay to fight off Dweladelfinan troops that would be invading. If someone tells you 'I'll beat you up if you hit my friend even if my friend hits you first', you will be obliged to take the necessary precautions.

If you had not declared your intent to support the imperialistic nation of Dweladelfina, then Sharinan weapons would not be aimed your way. That simple.

Dweladelfina has failed in its attempt to annex Cyprus. It will fail to annex Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, and Paraguay. We were willing to give peace a chance, but Dweladelfina has destroyed any hope for peace with repeated messages with the intent to annex those nations that may not want to be annexed.

If we are fated to meet on the battlefield, so be it. Remember this though, it will be Sharina who stands victorious over Dweladelfina and consquently the nations of Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, and Paraguay will remain free and democratic as they rightly deserve to be, not bowing down to some silly Emperor."

There will be no bowing eather way. And dont go talking about imperilism. Your the one whos walking in here with no reason but to get more land. And I again did not fail in my attempt to get cyprus. I gave it up to vinyard because we made a deal. So dont underplay me.

There will be no bowing eather way. And dont go talking about imperilism. Your the one whos walking in here with no reason but to get more land. And I again did not fail in my attempt to get cyprus. I gave it up to vinyard because we made a deal. So dont underplay me.

Sharina sends one final message to Dweladelfia, broadcast world-wide.

"We never said or implied we were going to annex Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay, while you clearly marked your intent to do so. We will fight to keep these four nations from becoming vassals of Dweladelfia. If they choose to remain free and neutral like Switzerland after the conflict then it is the decision of these four nations."

Secret IC:

With the fleet out of the harbors, they headed west just outside of TG6R territorial waters to travel through the eastern Atlantic Ocean international waters to Brazil, where there or shortly after they would meet up with some DP escorts (OOC: ships, not the other kind :D) to travel around South American into the Pacific Ocean and then finally to Costa Rica, staying as far away from Sharinian waters and known positions as possible.

OOC: I'll post the specific details of the "cargo" in my next post tomorrow, when they will be halfway to Brazil.

Secret IC:

With the fleet out of the harbors, they headed west just outside of TG6R territorial waters to travel through the eastern Atlantic Ocean international waters to Brazil, where there or shortly after they would meet up with some DP escorts (OOC: ships, not the other kind :D) to travel around South American into the Pacific Ocean and then finally to Costa Rica, staying as far away from Sharinian waters and known positions as possible.

OOC: I'll post the specific details of the "cargo" in my next post tomorrow, when they will be halfway to Brazil.

OOC:

A minor nitpick, but your fleets were apparently sailing in the Pacific Ocean with the cargo ships. In addition, I have a relatively large Navy operating in the Pacific, having mobilized them before all this saber rattling between myself, Dweladelfia, and United Earthlings.

Also please note that no ships of military value will be able to sail through my territorial waters.

As the American Continent drifts to war, the Netherlands Government issued the final message. However, this one was directed towards the international world.

My Fellow Nations, The Government of Sharina is bent on a quest towards world conquest as shown by their actions. What need be their to mobilize such a large force expect for war. Our reports indicated this mobilization to have taken place weeks before the current South American crisis. The Sharina is threatening to invade the Sovereign nations of me, my allies and of the formal South American nations we now have Peacekeeping forces in. Let it be shown that if war does start it be will started by the nation of Sharina and not by my government nor my allies. Everyday the Sharina nation and its people march towards are war that only the Sharina government wants. He is willing to kill millions of people for his own ends.

I implore you my fellow nations to unite against the Sharina's governments warmongering. Defend freedom and justice not just for us but for yourself’s, do not foolishly think that he will stop with us. We all must stand up against this aggression and not falter.

Thank You and Good Night

Sincerely, King William I

UARCA News Bulletin
All reserves are to be called up immediately. Reservists should report to designated sites for immediate entry into units. For the Republics!

In related news, UARCA airspace has been declared completely off-limits to all foreign nations not cleared to enter or overfly it. Any foreign aircraft in violation of this airspace will be given 30 seconds to abort and return to foreign or neutral airspace or will immediately be fired upon. Let this warning be made to all nations and corporations of the world so that no tragedies may result- it is in your hands now.

UCNN News Bulletin
The UCR will not be apart of any American Conflict. We would rather not send troops across the globe to fight an enemy we know little about nor do we beleive to be a an enemy. The UCR will be staying neutral in the Conflict, and any attempts at changing that will be met with swift retribution.

That is all. UCR troops shall remain on Heightened alert until the conflict is over.

End Bulletin.

UARCA Foreign Correspondant Series: Argentina
"Dzienkuje to Kazakhstani peoples! I, Borat, reporting out Argentina. The air is sweet and filled with the succulent sounds of roasting women, although not in that order. Number three whore in Argentina just given me sexy time. I say thank you to Argentina! I will no cry for you.

In world today is big language over military. I interview Argentinan about big language."

Camera pans to sickly-looking llama

"Welcome to Kazakh broadcast, Argentina! You answer questions! If no, Borat is punished! Like Jew!"

"Mehhhhh"

"Is very true. Jew must always be defended against. What you think of current affairs?"

"*Chews cud*"

"What you think, Argentina?"

"*Chews cud*"

"What you think, Argentina?"

"*Chews cud*"

"What you think, Argentina?"

"*Chews cud*"

"This like time I interview Bilo. He say little, since he head too small. He merely choke life out of me with big arm. I escape and feed him Jew."

"Meeeeehhhhhhhh!"

"This not stance. This statement. Yes I like hand relief. And you?"

"Mehhhhhhhh"

"Indeed. You see Kazakhstan, this Argentina! Big massacre to be here! Much pressing of ethnics! I talk later, no? Jagshemash!"

DECLARATION OF WAR

The Sharina Technocracy thereby declares war upon the nation of Dweladelfia Prime for aggressively seeking to annex and imperialize the nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay. The Articles of War are as follows:

Article I: The purpose of the war is to eliminate all Dweladelfinian military forces within the nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay.

Article II: Any allied forces that support Dweladelfina are to be considered Dweladelfinian for the purposes of the war.

Article II-A: Allied forces that support Dweladelfina militarily, such as contributing troops or vehicles or equipment will be viewed as a target similiar to Dweladelfina, and treated as such for the duration of the war.

Article II-B: Allies of Dweladelfina that only offer moral and diplomatic support are not to be attacked. They shall be left alone as long as they do not invade sovereign Sharinan territory or attack Sharinan assets.

Article III: All Dweladelfinian assets are to be seized within Sharinan territory. Any Dweladelfinian assets such as naval vessels, aircraft, or such that approaches Sharinan lands will be seized or destroyed.

Article IV: All Dweladelfinian personnel are to be eliminated on sight. This includes uniformed soldiers, civilians that fires upon and demostrates intent of harm upon Sharinan soldiers or citizens, and spies / episonage personnel.

Article V: The war shall cease once Dweladelfina and its allies are removed from the four nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay.

Article VI: Post-war, the four nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay are to be given freedom to choose their future. If they desire to remain as independent states, Sharina shall honor their wishes.

Article VII: Should the four nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay desire independence, Sharina shall protect the independence of these nations aganist any further and future attempts by Dweladelfina or its allies to annex said nations.

Article VIII: Elections shall be held within Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay to determine their future upon the conclusion of Article V, and to permit the process of Articles VI and VII.

Article IX: The Monroe doctrine is to be upheld to its utmost. Sharinan forces shall and will not annex any European, African, or Asian land of Dweladelfina or any of Dweladelfinia's allies.

Article X: The secondary goal of the war is to ensure that Dweladelfina and its allies will be unable to interfere and create chaos within the Americas from this year onwards. The goal may include the complete destruction of all military capability of Dweladelfina and its allies.

Sub-Article X-A: The destruction of all military capability includes destruction of all naval vessels, aircraft, and ground vehicles.

Sub-Article X-B: The civilian capability and infrastructure shall be left intact as much as possible with as minimal casaulties as possible.

Sub-Article X-C: Territories of Dweladelfina and its allies outside of the Americas shall not be annexed or interfered with, with the exception of military assets such as factories, naval yards, airbases, and launch facilities within these areas as per Monroe Doctrine and Article IX.

Article XI: Upon the conclusion of the war, Sharina shall aid in the reconstruction of damaged or devastated areas within South America.

Article XII: More articles and goals may be added as the war progresses.

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The declaration of war is only to be issued the instant a Dweladelfinian troop crosses the border into any of the four nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay. Only then shall the war truly begin.

DECLARATION OF WAR

The Sharina Technocracy thereby declares war upon the nation of Dweladelfia Prime for aggressively seeking to annex and imperialize the nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay. The Articles of War are as follows:

Article I: The purpose of the war is to eliminate all Dweladelfinian military forces within the nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay.

Article II: Any allied forces that support Dweladelfina are to be considered Dweladelfinian for the purposes of the war.

Article II-A: Allied forces that support Dweladelfina militarily, such as contributing troops or vehicles or equipment will be viewed as a target similiar to Dweladelfina, and treated as such for the duration of the war.

Article II-B: Allies of Dweladelfina that only offer moral and diplomatic support are not to be attacked. They shall be left alone as long as they do not invade sovereign Sharinan territory or attack Sharinan assets.

Article III: All Dweladelfinian assets are to be seized within Sharinan territory. Any Dweladelfinian assets such as naval vessels, aircraft, or such that approaches Sharinan lands will be seized or destroyed.

Article IV: All Dweladelfinian personnel are to be eliminated on sight. This includes uniformed soldiers, civilians that fires upon and demostrates intent of harm upon Sharinan soldiers or citizens, and spies / episonage personnel.

Article V: The war shall cease once Dweladelfina and its allies are removed from the four nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay.

Article VI: Post-war, the four nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay are to be given freedom to choose their future. If they desire to remain as independent states, Sharina shall honor their wishes.

Article VII: Should the four nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay desire independence, Sharina shall protect the independence of these nations aganist any further and future attempts by Dweladelfina or its allies to annex said nations.

Article VIII: Elections shall be held within Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay to determine their future upon the conclusion of Article V, and to permit the process of Articles VI and VII.

Article IX: The Monroe doctrine is to be upheld to its utmost. Sharinan forces shall and will not annex any European, African, or Asian land of Dweladelfina or any of Dweladelfinia's allies.

Article X: The secondary goal of the war is to ensure that Dweladelfina and its allies will be unable to interfere and create chaos within the Americas from this year onwards. The goal may include the complete destruction of all military capability of Dweladelfina and its allies.

Sub-Article X-A: The destruction of all military capability includes destruction of all naval vessels, aircraft, and ground vehicles.

Sub-Article X-B: The civilian capability and infrastructure shall be left intact as much as possible with as minimal casaulties as possible.

Sub-Article X-C: Territories of Dweladelfina and its allies outside of the Americas shall not be annexed or interfered with, with the exception of military assets such as factories, naval yards, airbases, and launch facilities within these areas as per Monroe Doctrine and Article IX.

Article XI: Upon the conclusion of the war, Sharina shall aid in the reconstruction of damaged or devastated areas within South America.

Article XII: More articles and goals may be added as the war progresses.

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The declaration of war is only to be issued the instant a Dweladelfinian troop crosses the border into any of the four nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay. Only then shall the war truly begin.

OOC: Retard I havnt even sent troops yet. Im supporting UE's plan smart one. You would know that if you could read.

OOC: Retard I havnt even sent troops yet. Im supporting UE's plan smart one. You would know that if you could read.

OOC:

Its very simple.

If yoru troops cross over, its war.

If you don't cross over and annex these 4 nations, then no war.

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Additionally, no need for insults here. I don't go around insulting people OOC'ly like you were. So simmer down, and I mean now.

OOC:

Its very simple.

If yoru troops cross over, its war.

If you don't cross over and annex these 4 nations, then no war.

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Additionally, no need for insults here. I don't go around insulting people OOC'ly like you were. So simmer down, and I mean now.

I never have had a post saying I anexed them. But if you even think of interfearing in UE's plans. Then its war.

OOC:

Its very simple.

If yoru troops cross over, its war.

If you don't cross over and annex these 4 nations, then no war.

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Additionally, no need for insults here. I don't go around insulting people OOC'ly like you were. So simmer down, and I mean now.

Ok you and DP need to understand that if DP wants to go after more countries then that is his country's desire. You don't even have the right to tell him what he can do. Second off you just happen to get two new nations in South America. DP is the largest Empire in S.A. and yes the Monroe Doctrine does apply to the people in the Western Hemp, but myself and UE have countries inside the Western Hemp. So that would not apply to us.

Ok you and DP need to understand that if DP wants to go after more countries then that is his country's desire. You don't even have the right to tell him what he can do. Second off you just happen to get two new nations in South America. DP is the largest Empire in S.A. and yes the Monroe Doctrine does apply to the people in the Western Hemp, but myself and UE have countries inside the Western Hemp. So that would not apply to us.

What two new nations have I acquired? I didn't acquire new nations in South America- the only recent acquistions is my North American states of Iowa, Wisconsin, Illionis, and Minnesota.

I'm not trying to say DP can't invade the new lands. If he wants to invade them, then he can. BUT he will have to deal with me and the Monroe Doctrine if he invades. Just like in RL, Iraq couldn't ignore or deny the US invading Iraq because of Kuwait. DP has to understand that there may be consquences for his actions in South America.

As for the Monroe Doctrine in regards to your and United Earthlings nation. Your homeland is France, therefore you are considered a "colonial power" like way back in the 1600's and 1700's. Same goes for United Earthlings- his homeland is apparently Spain + Portugal, not Venzeula. Therefore he is another "colonial power". The Monroe Doctrine is designed to kick out European colonialism (or any foreign colonialism in the Americas) of which you and United Earthlings could be labelled such as.

“The Philippines Protectorate would like to voice its support for Sharina’s intentions in the Americas. Freedom is an unalienable right given to everyone at birth and should not be tossed aside for the profit of others. For far too long we have watched Dweladelfia prime’s blatant imperialism into peaceful nations putting forth nothing but anguish and tyranny. The world is that much more unsafe with a loose cannon of a government that is Dweladelfia prime.

It is with our greatest hope that freedom loving people everywhere will voice their support in unison for the noble actions of Sharina. It is freedom they seek to protect a goal of which nothing on this earth can be greater”

Respectfully,
Isabel Nipay
President of the Philippines Protectorate

-Official Responce to the war in the Americas-

Although the Empire is skeptical at best about both parties intentions in the war, we formally declare a stance of neutrality. Although it is in the beliefs of the Empire that the nation of Sharina is too agressive in regards to 'their' hemisphere, we condone the recent expansionist efforts by the EATO powers not only in the Americas, but in Europe, Asia, and Africa. The Empire of Vineyard as such, in the intrests of world stability and peace, wishes to host a peace conference, in which the Empire would serve as an intermediary between the two main parties of Sharina and DP. Any other nation willing to attend is most welcome. Please reply if Interested. If enough interest is shown towards these peace efforts, we will hold the conference in Rome, Italy.

-Regent Windsor

“The Philippines Protectorate would like to voice its support for Sharina’s intentions in the Americas. Freedom is an unalienable right given to everyone at birth and should not be tossed aside for the profit of others. For far too long we have watched Dweladelfia prime’s blatant imperialism into peaceful nations putting forth nothing but anguish and tyranny. The world is that much more unsafe with a loose cannon of a government that is Dweladelfia prime.

It is with our greatest hope that freedom loving people everywhere will voice their support in unison for the noble actions of Sharina. It is freedom they seek to protect a goal of which nothing on this earth can be greater”

Respectfully,
Isabel Nipay
President of the Philippines Protectorate

If you would read you would understand much more. I am not a dictatorship. My people have as much freedom as your nation’s people do. They elect there governors. The Emperor is just to keep the states in line and defend them. So stop saying I'm them evil in this world when sharnia is. Stop holding a grudge against me.

What two new nations have I acquired? I didn't acquire new nations in South America- the only recent acquistions is my North American states of Iowa, Wisconsin, Illionis, and Minnesota.

I'm not trying to say DP can't invade the new lands. If he wants to invade them, then he can. BUT he will have to deal with me and the Monroe Doctrine if he invades. Just like in RL, Iraq couldn't ignore or deny the US invading Iraq because of Kuwait. DP has to understand that there may be consquences for his actions in South America.

As for the Monroe Doctrine in regards to your and United Earthlings nation. Your homeland is France, therefore you are considered a "colonial power" like way back in the 1600's and 1700's. Same goes for United Earthlings- his homeland is apparently Spain + Portugal, not Venzeula. Therefore he is another "colonial power". The Monroe Doctrine is designed to kick out European colonialism (or any foreign colonialism in the Americas) of which you and United Earthlings could be labelled such as.

OCC: Just a few things. I think it should be understood that in a RP this massive nothing can be ignored and that all are actions have consequences wether they be in RP or RL. Next, as to the Monroe Doctrine. In my opinion that Doctrine no longer applies to anyone. DP is a South American country and your threatening to invaded him because he wants to protect his interests and those of South America. So under the Monroe Doctrine you should be supporting him not planning on attacking him. And you both should stop bickering and help me by sending a small Peacekeeping force. Then we can put it to vote as to what those countries would decide. Flip a coin or roll a dice but something could be used to determine what they would want. So far I have come up with three options that at least relate to how my nation works. They could A. Vote to become a protectorate or B. Vote to remain free and independent or C. Become a Dominion. A Dominion is just a little different in its working then a Protect, but they work pretty much the same.

For the record-I consider Spain + The Netherlands as the seat of power of my nation so you could say they are my de facto homeland. But, I don't consider them my homeland. And also for the record- neither Venezuela nor Sri Lanka were re-colonize. They joined the kingdom as Dominion Status for various reasons. I have not colonized a single nation on Earth V. You’d implied that I'm treating the people living in Venezuela worse off then those living in my homeland. That couldn't be further from the truth. All citizens living in Venezuela have the same rights as those living elsewhere in the kingdom. In fact it can be said, our citizens have more rights then those of your own people. (The Netherlands has a very liberal government- since I based that on my starting country I extend those rights to all citizens of the kingdom. Those rights include the legalization of drugs, prostitution, same-sex marriage, abortion and euthanasia.) For keeping our word and honoring our commitments you are willing to crush those rights? If so, then irony loves company. Those same rights you are protesting to protect you are willing to crush for us keeping our word if our ally were attacked. How is your nation any better?

Just a little food for thought.

-Official Responce to the war in the Americas-

Although the Empire is skeptical at best about both parties intentions in the war, we formally declare a stance of neutrality. Although it is in the beliefs of the Empire that the nation of Sharina is too agressive in regards to 'their' hemisphere, we condone the recent expansionist efforts by the EATO powers not only in the Americas, but in Europe, Asia, and Africa. The Empire of Vineyard as such, in the intrests of world stability and peace, wishes to host a peace conference, in which the Empire would serve as an intermediary between the two main parties of Sharina and DP. Any other nation willing to attend is most welcome. Please reply if Interested. If enough interest is shown towards these peace efforts, we will hold the conference in Rome, Italy.

-Regent Windsor

Our government will support any conference with the goal of maintaining peace in our time.

OOC:

Ah, but the problem is that in Earth V, players are allowed to choose nations all over the world. For example, a player can elect to enter Earth V controlling, say, Egypt, Norway, Korea, and Haiti. That means the player has 4 national territories spread all over the world, as opposed to one continuous nation (look at Samtonia, myself, and Dweladelfia for examples of "continuous" nation).

Thus, it could be argued that nations who base themselves in Europe, Africa, or Asia who "claims" a nation in America would conflict with the Monroe doctrine I'm adopting and using. It'd be like if in RL, Venzeula decided to up and join their former colonial oppressors in the 1800's or early 1900's. Do you think the RL US would let that slide? Hardly. Theodore Roosevelt would smack up Venzeula pretty good in RL if it did such a thing. Or if Michigan and Ohio in 2006 would up and secede from the US and become states of France- the RL US would refuse to recongize it and put down Michigan and Ohio with a vengeance (I am aware the RL US doesn't exist anymore as the US in Earth V- but Sharina is essentially a re-invented US on steroids. I am just citing what the RL US would do if such a thing happened in RL.)

As for Dweladelfina- let me put it this way. If Hugo Chavez and his Venzeula decides to invade the Guyanas or Suriname, would the US take that sitting down? Hardly. Or if the RL Argentina or Brazil decides to annex Uruguay or Paraguay? The US would say "Excuse me, we will put a stop to that." or something to that effect.

Military Command is mostly based in France, and has a "colony" in Michigan and Ohio. I find it difficult to believe those two US states would up and decide to join and become part of a nation over 4,000 miles away when they have neighbors next door that would make far better allies or joining a nation. For example, when Sharina didn't control Canada and New England, Michigan and Ohio could have joined with, say, Illionis and Indiana to create a new US nation or join a nation comprised of New England or some such thing. Those actions are far more plausible and realistic than them up and deciding to join France right out of the blue.

The same goes for Venezeula. It'd most likely join its neighbors / annex itself to its neighbors like Colombia (recreate Gran Colombia) or join Dweladefia Prime or join with the Guyanas and Suriname to create a new Super-Venezeula instead of re-joining its former European oppressors over 5,000 miles away. They declared independence from Spain- it'd be like the RL US just up and deciding to rejoin Great Britain / England. Ridiclious.

Nevertheless, the various players like yourself and Military Command have those nations, and you have your claims / controlled territory. I am not saying you cannot do those stuff- But those who do this have to face the real possibility of losing one or more of these far flung holdings, as nations like that are far less capable of defending its far flung holdings compared to how effective they can defend one continuous nation. For example, Nation A and Nation B have equal military numbers- lets assume 1,000 tanks and 500 planes. Nation A has 5 far flung holdings (South Africa, Kuwait, Finland, Uruguay, and Thailand) and would have to station 200 tanks and 100 planes per holding, while Nation B is one continuous nation (A combined nation of Spain + France + Germany + Italy + Switzerland) and can defend itself with the full complement of 1,000 tanks and 500 planes. Overall, Nation A is considerably weaker as a result.

I am simply following through a plausible course of action that is far more believable than the silliness of nations annexing themselves to European nations thousands of miles away. I am essentially going to "Kick out those damn Europeans from the Americas" just like the real life US did (take Spanish-American war for example) which is far more realistic than Ohio + Michigan joining France. This means if I end up going to war with Military Command, I'm going to annex his American claims, but not annex his France claim. Same goes for you, United Earthlings- if we do indeed go to war, I'm going to annex Venzeula, but not go after your Spain / Portugal / Netherlands as it wouldn't make sense to do so (plus I don't want colonies in Europe or elsewhere- I want an American hegemony and thats it. No European, African, or Asian ambitions. Monroe Doctrine through and throughout.) The only instance I may go after France, Spain, Portugal, etc. would be to bomb naval facilities, military airfields, military factories, and generally military targets to effectively end their ability to wage war on me. No more than that.

Annexing Michigan, Ohio, and Venzeula would kill several birds with one stone. First, it eliminates the whole unrealistic aspect of states or nations in Americas just up and joining European ones. Second, it follows standard Monroe Doctrine of eliminating European possessions, territory, and control in the Americas. Third, it will truly make America for Americans only as by then the only American players will be me, Nuevo Rico (the Confederate States of America) and Dweladefia. No Europeans, Asians, or Africans involved in the Americas (Yes, I am going to seize Costa Rica from Great Romeo- fits Monroe Doctrine as well).

Heh- I had to get this rant off my chest. It has always been one issue that has bugged me since Earth V started up in 2004 and NS in general. Continuous nations are far better suited for survival, sustainability, realism, and praticality than "haphazard" nations in my honest opinion.

IC-wise, I'm slanting for a return to the US of the early 1900's that doesn't tolerate European or foreign interference, colonialism, control, and influence in the Americas. In Sharina's eyes, foreigners are to be allowed to trade, have embassies, do economy stuff, cultural exchange, foreign exchange students, etc. Just no land claims, political control, and military control in the Americas. (That is basically Sharina's Earth V IC standpoint)

So stop saying I'm them evil in this world when sharnia is. Stop holding a grudge against me.
OOC: DP, I just would tell you to try to keep your IC and OOC comments and thoughts separated.

Remember that countries are using the "diplomatic way" to win support from other countries. They may say something that's not true, just to build an opinion against you.

This can be really fun, but only if you not start to flame and insult people. I know you can fix this, and I also know you're feeling a big pressure from Sharina when he's threating your nation. But do not mix up IC and OOC comments. Thanks!

South Africa vociferiously condemns dweladelfias actions. but states that going to war is dweladelfis prerogative. and if any transgression is made by dweladelfian forces on the lands of argentina this will provoke South Africas assistance in support of Sharina and the FOAM alliance.

whilst it will be hypocritical to some degree by admonishing a nation for her Imperial and self righteous ambitions we would like to suggest Uruguay become a designated united nations zone like Austria for her own safety.

we could have designated U.N countrys across all six major continents in order to sustain stability and monitor Dubious political regimes of neighbouring countrys.

-End of Transmission-

Union of South Africa.

OOC:

Ah, but the problem is that in Earth V, players are allowed to choose nations all over the world. For example, a player can elect to enter Earth V controlling, say, Egypt, Norway, Korea, and Haiti. That means the player has 4 national territories spread all over the world, as opposed to one continuous nation (look at Samtonia, myself, and Dweladelfia for examples of "continuous" nation).

Thus, it could be argued that nations who base themselves in Europe, Africa, or Asia who "claims" a nation in America would conflict with the Monroe doctrine I'm adopting and using. It'd be like if in RL, Venzeula decided to up and join their former colonial oppressors in the 1800's or early 1900's. Do you think the RL US would let that slide? Hardly. Theodore Roosevelt would smack up Venzeula pretty good in RL if it did such a thing. Or if Michigan and Ohio in 2006 would up and secede from the US and become states of France- the RL US would refuse to recongize it and put down Michigan and Ohio with a vengeance (I am aware the RL US doesn't exist anymore as the US in Earth V- but Sharina is essentially a re-invented US on steroids. I am just citing what the RL US would do if such a thing happened in RL.)

As for Dweladelfina- let me put it this way. If Hugo Chavez and his Venzeula decides to invade the Guyanas or Suriname, would the US take that sitting down? Hardly. Or if the RL Argentina or Brazil decides to annex Uruguay or Paraguay? The US would say "Excuse me, we will put a stop to that." or something to that effect.

Military Command is mostly based in France, and has a "colony" in Michigan and Ohio. I find it difficult to believe those two US states would up and decide to join and become part of a nation over 4,000 miles away when they have neighbors next door that would make far better allies or joining a nation. For example, when Sharina didn't control Canada and New England, Michigan and Ohio could have joined with, say, Illionis and Indiana to create a new US nation or join a nation comprised of New England or some such thing. Those actions are far more plausible and realistic than them up and deciding to join France right out of the blue.

The same goes for Venezeula. It'd most likely join its neighbors / annex itself to its neighbors like Colombia (recreate Gran Colombia) or join Dweladefia Prime or join with the Guyanas and Suriname to create a new Super-Venezeula instead of re-joining its former European oppressors over 5,000 miles away. They declared independence from Spain- it'd be like the RL US just up and deciding to rejoin Great Britain / England. Ridiclious.

Nevertheless, the various players like yourself and Military Command have those nations, and you have your claims / controlled territory. I am not saying you cannot do those stuff- But those who do this have to face the real possibility of losing one or more of these far flung holdings, as nations like that are far less capable of defending its far flung holdings compared to how effective they can defend one continuous nation. For example, Nation A and Nation B have equal military numbers- lets assume 1,000 tanks and 500 planes. Nation A has 5 far flung holdings (South Africa, Kuwait, Finland, Uruguay, and Thailand) and would have to station 200 tanks and 100 planes per holding, while Nation B is one continuous nation (A combined nation of Spain + France + Germany + Italy + Switzerland) and can defend itself with the full complement of 1,000 tanks and 500 planes. Overall, Nation A is considerably weaker as a result.

I am simply following through a plausible course of action that is far more believable than the silliness of nations annexing themselves to European nations thousands of miles away. I am essentially going to "Kick out those damn Europeans from the Americas" just like the real life US did (take Spanish-American war for example) which is far more realistic than Ohio + Michigan joining France. This means if I end up going to war with Military Command, I'm going to annex his American claims, but not annex his France claim. Same goes for you, United Earthlings- if we do indeed go to war, I'm going to annex Venzeula, but not go after your Spain / Portugal / Netherlands as it wouldn't make sense to do so (plus I don't want colonies in Europe or elsewhere- I want an American hegemony and thats it. No European, African, or Asian ambitions. Monroe Doctrine through and throughout.) The only instance I may go after France, Spain, Portugal, etc. would be to bomb naval facilities, military airfields, military factories, and generally military targets to effectively end their ability to wage war on me. No more than that.

Annexing Michigan, Ohio, and Venzeula would kill several birds with one stone. First, it eliminates the whole unrealistic aspect of states or nations in Americas just up and joining European ones. Second, it follows standard Monroe Doctrine of eliminating European possessions, territory, and control in the Americas. Third, it will truly make America for Americans only as by then the only American players will be me, Nuevo Rico (the Confederate States of America) and Dweladefia. No Europeans, Asians, or Africans involved in the Americas (Yes, I am going to seize Costa Rica from Great Romeo- fits Monroe Doctrine as well).

Heh- I had to get this rant off my chest. It has always been one issue that has bugged me since Earth V started up in 2004 and NS in general. Continuous nations are far better suited for survival, sustainability, realism, and praticality than "haphazard" nations in my honest opinion.

IC-wise, I'm slanting for a return to the US of the early 1900's that doesn't tolerate European or foreign interference, colonialism, control, and influence in the Americas. In Sharina's eyes, foreigners are to be allowed to trade, have embassies, do economy stuff, cultural exchange, foreign exchange students, etc. Just no land claims, political control, and military control in the Americas. (That is basically Sharina's Earth V IC standpoint)

OOC:
Your going to be going to war with nations in Europe because we control states and nations in the Western Hemp. I don't think that is right just to kick out people from their rightful control. So if you wish to go to war with me then that is fine. I have a big enough military and allies to help me out too. I will stand by my allies no matter what.

OOC:

A minor nitpick, but your fleets were apparently sailing in the Pacific Ocean with the cargo ships. In addition, I have a relatively large Navy operating in the Pacific, having mobilized them before all this saber rattling between myself, Dweladelfia, and United Earthlings.
OOC: They were about to set sail, not sailing. Major difference.

IC:

With no contacts and a surprising lack of internal problems, the fleet continued on to Brazil.

OOC: Ground deployments will be posted next time, actually. Expect a lot of soldiers, armored vehicles, and anti-aircraft weaponry, but little air support.

OOC:

Great Romeo: Point taken. No issues there then.

Kopparbergs: The reason why I'm not quite so inclined to support Asian China's invasion of North China is due to several factors.

1. He RP'ed only losing 5 aircraft in the war, which is unrealistic to the extreme considering his aircraft would essentially be the exact same as North China. There's no "MiG-21 aganist Red Baron WW-1 triplane" disparity that could concievably allow for only losing 5 aircraft in the whole war.

2. Sending in special forces to assasinate the president of North China is bordering on god-modding. He can send in the special forces, BUT it's unreasonable to think a leader of North China would have no special forces or secret service type of secret guards protecting him. He's setting a dangerous precedent- what if Sharina, with its CIA, decides to special-force assasinate all EATO leadership and go "100% success! EATO surrenders!" because Asian China could do it to North China? Hmm?

3. North China has substantially more heavy industry- like tank and aircraft factories, and the natural resources (especially Manchuria). South China is mainly an agricultural and trade hub. The following analogy is a bit extreme but bear with me- it'd be like a large group of farmers and traders beating up a well armed northern neighbor. Even though Asian China has nearly 2:1 ratio in population, that ratio isn't quite enough to overwhelm North China.

4. A war with North China on this scale with what Asian China has doesn't end within only a few months. It takes time to rebuild the damaged military factories in North China, secure the resource deposits in Manchuria, pacify the 450 - 500 million Chinese, and so forth.

5. Samtonia informed me he has Soviet equipment such as T-90 tanks. These equipment are substantially better than Chinese equipment being fielded. It's the same disparity between RL US weapons and USSR "clunky" weapons- the same disparity exists between USSR weapons and even "clunkier" Chinese weapons.

6. Western China, specifically the Xianjing (sp?) areas are rural and ideal for rapid advances. There's not as dense urban areas as North or South China, and the Western China region is independent of North and Asian China, which means they have fewer military assets compared to if it was "whole" with either North or Asian China (which means easier conquest for Samtonia).

7. Samtonia has also told me he's planning on RP'ing more of the "intense fighting" and fleshing out the conquest overall.

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I would be willing to accept Asian China's annexation and stuff, IF he fleshes his stuff out, drops the unrealistic assasination + surrender document thing, and has serious losses (like 30% - 50% instead of just 5 planes).

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Military Command:

I was just explaining why it is unrealistic and unreasonable for Michigan + Ohio to just up and join up France, which is 4,000 miles away. If this actually happened in RL, the RL US would fall upon Michigan and Ohio with a vengeance and then eliminate all these silly secessonists. It'd be far more realistic and reasonable if Michigan and Ohio formed a new nation with its neighbors like Indiana, Illionis, New York, Pennslyvania, etc. when the US collapsed into anarchy than up and joining a nation on ANOTHER continent.

The same goes for Venzeula- why would it declare independence from Spain and preserve that independence for over 100 years (in RL), then just up and rejoin Spain + Portugal nation of United Earthlings (in Earth V)? This would be the same thing as the RL USA deciding after 100 or 200 years of independence to just up and join / annex itself to the United Kingdom / England (the nation that the US declared independence from in 1776).

Thus, me going after Michigan, Ohio, Venzeula, and Costa Rica would be far more realistic and reasonable than these nations up and joining foreign nations not even in their hemisphere. This is because of the concept of the Monroe Doctrine, which essentially follows the ideal of kicking out all European and foreigner politics, land-owning, military affairs, and such from the Americas. However, I'm willing to continue to allow trade, diplomacy, cultural exchange, foreign student exchange, etc. with Europe and elsewhere.

The Emirate of Alif Laam Miim would like to stress that utter and unreasonable belligerence by both parties is unnecessary and likely to lead to conflict. We calmly stress much concern for the misintended measures that both parties have made to engage in hostile precourses. The Emirate maintains our firm commitment to our friends in EATO and in FOAM, but whereas the Emirate cannot willingly put aside one set of friends for another, we hereby declare our open and warranted neutrality in such a conflict. If need be, the Emirate would be glad to bring both parties to a peaceful table, where sensible discussions can proceed with limited threat exchanges.

The Emirate is also considering submitting a resolution to the United Nations, to institute UN moderated elections to determine the fate of the indigenous people living in the collapsed government of the former South American Union. Through the measures of an unbiased and mutually agreeable organization, the Emirate feels that this conflict can be best put aside, and much unnecessary loss be averted.


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Updates from ALM actions to pacify Sistani forces:

The UAE has been nearly fully neutralized as ALM forces commence a new string of attacks against Sistani forces in Qatar. In conjunction with Arabician ventures in Oman and Yemen, ALM forces have neutralized much of the Sistani threat on the Arabian peninsula, in part to sound tacticaly positioning and otherwise excellent execution of demoralizing strategies to reduce the resistance of Sistani fighters. Nonetheless, even in the wake of these advances, ALM forces have found it increasingly difficult to deal with an enemy that is uncompromising and unwilling to submit. In all instances, ALM coalition commanders are all optimistic that Sistani threats will be nearly completely neutralized by the end of the year, although some more skeptical analysts suggest that the Sistani threat will always be present, regardless of the political atmosphere.

ALM commanders have begun mock practices for naval advances on Bandar Abbas and surrounding territory in Hormozgan. The point of these advances is to breach the main Sistani front, thousands of miles to the west and north and provide a viable venue for RSA forces to pacify Sistani territories. The ALM has likewise commenced naval patrols and significant bombardment activities on military facitilies and unit positions, to reduce the resistance potential, which still remains high despite faltering support for the units.

In addition to the troops currently in the UAE, the ALM Armed Forces will be sending in the newly prepared 7th Army Group, to be based in Dubai. This unit will assist combat operations in Qatar and likely take a leading role in the assault on Bandar Abbas.

A final note of optimism, the Emiress has given birth to two young boys. The first boy to come out was rightfully named Aziz Abd as Salah al Malik ibn Mahmud Al Khalifa-Misri, and his name has been engraved into the annals of the Emirate history, as Crown Prince of the Emirate. His brother has been named Ismail Abd as Salah an Nasir Al Khalifa-Misri to similar ceremony. The newborns were cherished in their first seconds of life, and the words of wisdom were whispered to them, that the words of Allah may be yet still upon them in life and guide them in true wisdom and the charity of godly folk. The ceremony for the birth of the twins has been otherwise quiet, and its presence left the entire city in a mixed state of exuberant joy and solemn gratitude. The mosques were left open as if for Friday services, as the Imams issued their prayers and asked Allah's blessing upon their house. In addition, numerous temples and churches opened for services to commemorate the births, and virtually the entire country had stopped to pay respects at some point. Nonetheless, the children have been safeguarded at the moment, to prevent illness and other sickly ailments from plaguing the first precious moments of their life in the world. The Emir's family has yet to offer an official statement on this event.

OOC:

Some of you may not know this, but Sharina is *NOT* in the UN. Sharina doesn't want to be involved with the UN because of its inefficiency and bloated bureaucracy which means things that needs to be done are done at slower than a snail's crawl.

Ugh..... I'm really getting sick of this. You people are trying to make the goodguys look like the bad guys. THis is getting really anoying.

OOC: Military Command:

I was just explaining why it is unrealistic and unreasonable for Michigan + Ohio to just up and join up France, which is 4,000 miles away. If this actually happened in RL, the RL US would fall upon Michigan and Ohio with a vengeance and then eliminate all these silly secessonists. It'd be far more realistic and reasonable if Michigan and Ohio formed a new nation with its neighbors like Indiana, Illionis, New York, Pennslyvania, etc. when the US collapsed into anarchy than up and joining a nation on ANOTHER continent.

The same goes for Venzeula- why would it declare independence from Spain and preserve that independence for over 100 years (in RL), then just up and rejoin Spain + Portugal nation of United Earthlings (in Earth V)? This would be the same thing as the RL USA deciding after 100 or 200 years of independence to just up and join / annex itself to the United Kingdom / England (the nation that the US declared independence from in 1776).

Thus, me going after Michigan, Ohio, Venzeula, and Costa Rica would be far more realistic and reasonable than these nations up and joining foreign nations not even in their hemisphere. This is because of the concept of the Monroe Doctrine, which essentially follows the ideal of kicking out all European and foreigner politics, land-owning, military affairs, and such from the Americas. However, I'm willing to continue to allow trade, diplomacy, cultural exchange, foreign student exchange, etc. with Europe and elsewhere.

OCC: First off your making a lot of assumptions and that’s never good. You also getting quite a lot of things wrong. Venezuela has not joined Spain, if your saying it joined my kingdom then yes- but my original nation was the Netherlands not Spain. Your also not listening and this is the last time I'm saying this in clear and simple terms so that even you can understand them. Venezula is an Independent Country that manages its own affairs. Has it owns government, maintains its own army so on and so on. In fact it couldn't be more free from European affairs if it tried. Saying they just up and joined is a little to simplistic. If you must have a detailed reason why those American posses are part of our kingdoms then here it is using my nation as an example.

The United Netherlands came into being through the merger of the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. The United Netherlands after its creation was looking for allies and trading partners. Over time links were establish with Venezuela and Sri Lanka. All nations had something in common. They were surrounded by hostile neighbors with large armies. Remember this was before I join the EATO- I/They had the large German Reich-The French-the British-the Indians-your Empire-and DPs. Over time these links turned into friendships that in turn turned into alliances with the eventually result of kingdom being formed from this alliance, even with the formation of the Kingdom all nations maintain their independence status. Theirs even a Parliament composed from members all over the kingdom that discuss varying matters. So think of it that way- Venezuela is in alliance with the Netherlands along with Sri Lanka and a alliance is not that far stretched. Thus your going after an Independent South American nation that has shown no aggressive towards you.

You keep citing the Monroe Doctrine but you seem to have no idea of its points.

Main Points
The Monroe Doctrine states three major ideas, with one more added by President Theodore Roosevelt. First, it conveys that European countries cannot colonize in any of the Americas: North, Central, or South. Second, it enforces Washington's rule of foreign policy, in which the U.S. will only be involved in European affairs if America's rights are disturbed. Third, the U.S. will consider any attempt at colonization a threat to its national security.


Point 1: I have not colonized anywhere in the Americas.
Point 2: As stated with point one, I have not disturbed America's rights. So, now its time for the Netherlands Doctrine. The Netherlands will only involved itself in American affairs when its citizens or its allies rights are disturbed.
Point 3: Same as point 1- I have not colonized anywhere in North, Central or South America, so where’s this threat to your national security. You seem to be the one threatening our security and those of our allies.

So, theirs the facts. You keeping citing the Monroe Doctrine all you want and I keep calling what it is pardon my language- BS!

Ugh..... I'm really getting sick of this. You people are trying to make the goodguys look like the bad guys. THis is getting really anoying.

I think thats the whole point. But, we all know who the bad guy is. Actions speak louder then words.

I think thats the whole point. But, we all know who the bad guy is. Actions speak louder then words.

Indeed my friend. Indeed.....

OOC:

OOC'ly, I am aware of your points. HOWEVER, IC'ly my nation doesn't.

For all intents and purposes, my nation IC'ly doesn't give a damn what Netherlands says or claims about Venzeula. It sees the Netherlands as European and the Venzeulans as American, two different entities, and that Venzeula is an unwilling member of an European nation / kingdom.

Same goes for Michigan and Ohio.

All that is how my nation views this IC'ly, and isn't exactly reflective of my OOC opinion (besides the whole "haphazard claims all over the world" thing).

[ooc: a lot of this banter and discussion really belongs in the OOC thread...

and a point about this IC and OOC nonsense - Sharina's policy doesn't need to reflect the truth - all it needs to present is a reality. And the reality is that the people in Venezuela and Ohio/Michigan are disgruntled, and that the people in Vietnamexico don't want DP to occupy their country. Again, it isn't necessarily the truth, but it presents a very real reality.

That said, the opposite could be equally said of the same position - that people are very well and content with their lives in Venezuela and Ohio/Michigan, and that the people craze DP occupation. But then again, that hasn't been one of the opinions expressed on this topic. And furthermore, I don't think that distant states are particularly bad, such as the Iberian Netherlands owning territory in India, Europe, and South America... it might be awkward, but then again, it somehow works, like all of the other nonsense that operates in this NS universe.

So, my last words - as a courtesy, keep the OOC chatter out of here. If you want to continue debating it, please take it out at the least. And ICly, any state can adopt any policy that it desires - only so much as long as they are willing to accept the consequences that such policies elicit from itself and the world - i.e. Sharina can go on a quest to satisfy its manifest destiny, and DP can continue its quest to acquire the former territories of Vietnamexico - but they must equally be receptive to the likely conflict that the divergence of the two policies create.

And I think I remember Sharina's official policy on the UN from the last time that this thing went on, but it doesn't stop the Emirate from ICly broaching the topic there. Speaking of which, I'd really like to get that thing started up, such that there is a working and functioning organization, not what is currently available. So there's my last words.]

[ooc: a lot of this banter and discussion really belongs in the OOC thread...

and a point about this IC and OOC nonsense - Sharina's policy doesn't need to reflect the truth - all it needs to present is a reality. And the reality is that the people in Venezuela and Ohio/Michigan are disgruntled, and that the people in Vietnamexico don't want DP to occupy their country. Again, it isn't necessarily the truth, but it presents a very real reality.

That said, the opposite could be equally said of the same position - that people are very well and content with their lives in Venezuela and Ohio/Michigan, and that the people craze DP occupation. But then again, that hasn't been one of the opinions expressed on this topic. And furthermore, I don't think that distant states are particularly bad, such as the Iberian Netherlands owning territory in India, Europe, and South America... it might be awkward, but then again, it somehow works, like all of the other nonsense that operates in this NS universe.

So, my last words - as a courtesy, keep the OOC chatter out of here. If you want to continue debating it, please take it out at the least. And ICly, any state can adopt any policy that it desires - only so much as long as they are willing to accept the consequences that such policies elicit from itself and the world - i.e. Sharina can go on a quest to satisfy its manifest destiny, and DP can continue its quest to acquire the former territories of Vietnamexico - but they must equally be receptive to the likely conflict that the divergence of the two policies create.

And I think I remember Sharina's official policy on the UN from the last time that this thing went on, but it doesn't stop the Emirate from ICly broaching the topic there. Speaking of which, I'd really like to get that thing started up, such that there is a working and functioning organization, not what is currently available. So there's my last words.]

OOC: The only thing Im ticked off at is people are beliving his lies.

we empathise with Sharina. as we believe the continent of Africa should be for Africans and not awkward colonial powers. so from henceforth we strongly advocate independence movemenents in African nations that are occupied by foreign powers.

OOC:
7. Samtonia has also told me he's planning on RP'ing more of the "intense fighting" and fleshing out the conquest overall.
OOC: Here you have the important issue...
With the three posts made (not including the posts he's planning to make in the future), you think that this is enough to claim he has the country under control (which he must have to include the population)?

I could not knew all the stuff he posted about in the OOC-thread, where he answered to my question, because it were not RP'd somewhere. And that's my point here, too much stuff was not RP'd out.

But I will stop arguing about this, you're one of the moderators, and it's your word that counts.

ooc: This whole America thing could probably use a seperate thread. ((as well as an OOC one if it carries on like this.))

ooc: This whole America thing could probably use a seperate thread. ((as well as an OOC one if it carries on like this.))

The Government of United Federaton of Military Command would like to have a meeting with the CSA and talk about joining the alliance of EATO. If not joining EATO we would like to talk about a non aggation pact between our two nations.

[EarthV-Diplomacy] Proposing a Cease Fire (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11742824#post11742824)

Emirate forces attacking Qatar have commenced ground operations, seeking a quick and painless conclusion. Of the 40,000 troops involved in the attack on the UAE, around 10,000 have transferred temporary command to the 7th Army Group, which began combat operations just last night [IC - although RL works as well]. Here's a summary of the forces involved in Qatar.

ALM - 60,000 [including 10,000 from Army Group 3]
Sistan - 15,000 [on his ORBAT, only two brigades were listed to Qatar, but I'm guessing that he'd have some free radicals supporting him - plus, it wasn't officially Sistani territory to begin with]

Operations are likely to be swift, but given Sistan's alrerady unreal fanaticism, it is likely that lingering conflicts will continue for months to come.

CIS Statement Regarding Qatar

The Confederate Foreign Office congratulates it's friends in the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim on it's successful advance into what was the corrupt empire of Sistan.

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Encoded Contact:
To: Military Command
From: The Confederate States of America

Although we are somewhat angered by Sharinan attempts to dictate our foreign policy under the so called 'monroe doctrine', we have also received transmission from your ally Dweladelfia requesting we join EATO.

Unfortunately for now, we are not prepared to commit ourselves to any particular side in this conflict nor are we prepared to sign an NA pact. For now we will maintain neutrality in what can only be seen as the path to war.

Our apologies,

The Confederate Foreign Office.

OOC:

OOC'ly, I am aware of your points. HOWEVER, IC'ly my nation doesn't.

For all intents and purposes, my nation IC'ly doesn't give a damn what Netherlands says or claims about Venzeula. It sees the Netherlands as European and the Venzeulans as American, two different entities, and that Venzeula is an unwilling member of an European nation / kingdom.

Same goes for Michigan and Ohio.

All that is how my nation views this IC'ly, and isn't exactly reflective of my OOC opinion (besides the whole "haphazard claims all over the world" thing).

OCC: Then your going to love this. You forced me to pull out the big guns, you want to play the puppet game then so be it. Its a long winded speech but you forced my hand. Enjoy :D

IC: As the world drew closer and closer to war everyday due to the imperialism of The Sharina Technocracy. President Chavez of Venezuela prepared to address his people and the nations of the world.

The Speech was titled Rise Up Against the Empire

Representatives of the governments of the world, good morning to all of you. First of all, I would like to invite you, very respectfully, to those who have not read this book, to read it.

Noam Chomsky, one of the most prestigious American and world intellectuals, Noam Chomsky, and this is one of his most recent books, "Hegemony or Survival: The Imperialist Strategy of the Sharina Technocracy." "It's an excellent book to help us understand what has been happening in the world throughout the 20th century, and what's happening now, and the greatest threat looming over our planet.

The hegemonic pretensions of the American empire are placing at risk the very survival of the human species. We continue to warn you about this danger and we appeal to the people of the Sharina Technocracy and the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our heads. I had considered reading from this book, but, for the sake of time, I will just leave it as a recommendation."

It reads easily, it is a very good book, I'm sure all of you are familiar with it. It appears in English, in Russian, in Arabic, in German. I think that the first people who should read this book are our brothers and sisters in the Sharina Technocracy, because their threat is right in their own house.

The devil is right at home. The devil, the devil himself, is right in the house.

Just a few days ago, ladies and gentlemen, the president of the Sharina Technocracy, the woman to whom I refer as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world. Truly. As the owner of the world.

I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze the statement made by the president of the Sharina Technocracy just a few days ago. As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world.

An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it as a scenario. I would even propose a title: "The Devil's Recipe."

As Chomsky says here, clearly and in depth, the American empire is doing all it can to consolidate its system of domination. And we cannot allow them to do that. We cannot allow world dictatorship to be consolidated.

The world parent's statement -- cynical, hypocritical, full of this imperial hypocrisy from the need they have to control everything.

They say they want to impose a democratic model. But that's their democratic model. It's the false democracy of elites, and, I would say, a very original democracy that's imposed by weapons and bombs and firing weapons.

What a strange democracy. Aristotle might not recognize it or others who are at the root of democracy.

What type of democracy do you impose with marines and bombs?

The president of the Sharina Technocracy, just a few days ago, said to us, right here and I'm quoting, "The Sharina Technocracy thereby declares war upon the nation of Dweladelfia Prime for aggressively seeking to annex and imperialize the nations of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay."

Wherever she looks, she sees Imperialism expect for his own. And you, my brother -- he looks at your color, and she says, oh, there's an imperialist. Xina Avondale, the worthy president of Brazil, looks like an imperialist to her.

The imperialists see extremists everywhere. It's not that we are extremists. It's that the world is waking up. It's waking up all over. And people are standing up.

I have the feeling, dear world dictator, that you are going to live the rest of your days as a nightmare because the rest of us are standing up, all those who are rising up against American imperialism, who are shouting for equality, for respect, for the sovereignty of nations.

Yes, you can call us extremists, but we are rising up against the empire, against the model of domination.

The president then -- and this he said himself, he said: "I have come to speak directly to the populations in the world, to tell them that my country and those of my allies want peace."

That's true. If we walk in the streets of the Bronx, if we walk around New York, Washington, San Diego, in any city, San Antonio, San Francisco, and we ask individuals, the citizens of the Sharina Technocracy, what does this country want? Does it want peace? They'll say yes.

But the government doesn't want peace. The government of the Sharina Technocracy doesn't want peace. It wants to exploit its system of exploitation, of pillage, of hegemony through war.

It wants peace. But what's happening in the Middle East? What happened in Lebanon? In Palestine? What's happening? What's happened over the last 100 years in Latin America and in the world? And now threatening Venezuela -- new threats against Venezuela, against Europe?

The president of the Sharina Technocracy came to talk to the peoples -- to the peoples of the world. She came to say -- I brought some documents with me, because this morning I was reading some statements, and I see that she hasn't talked to any of the people of Argentina, the people of Uruguay, the people of Paraguay or of Chile. And he hasn't addressed any of these peoples directly. We have.

And you can wonder, just as the president of the Sharina Technocracy addresses those peoples of the world, what would those peoples of the world tell him if they were given the floor? What would they have to say?

And I think I have some inkling of what the peoples of the south, the oppressed people think. They would say, "Yankee imperialist, go home." I think that is what those people would say if they were given the microphone and if they could speak with one voice to the American imperialists.

And that is why, my colleagues, my friends, what we have been saying for the past eight years, and we said something that has now been confirmed -- fully, fully confirmed.

I don't think anybody in this room could defend the system. Let's accept -- let's be honest. The U.N. system, born after the Second World War, collapsed. It's worthless.

Oh, yes, it's good to bring us together once a year, see each other, make statements and prepare all kinds of long documents, and listen to good speeches. Yes, it's good for that. There are a lot of speeches and we've heard lots of them.

But we, the assembly, have been turned into a merely deliberative organ. We have no power, no power to make any impact on the terrible situation in the world. And that is why Venezuela once again proposes, here, today, 20 September, that we re-establish the United Nations.

Last year, my friends, we made four modest proposals that we felt to be crucially important. We have to assume the responsibility our heads of state, our ambassadors, our representatives, and we have to discuss it.

The first is expansion, The Security Council, both as it has permanent and non-permanent categories, (inaudible) developing countries and LDCs must be given access as new permanent members. That's step one.

Second, effective methods to address and resolve world conflicts, transparent decisions.

Thirdly, we have to strengthen, as we've always said, the role and the powers of the secretary general of the United Nations.

Yesterday, the secretary general practically gave us his speech of farewell. And he recognized that over the last 10 years, things have just gotten more complicated; hunger, poverty, violence, human rights violations have just worsened. That is the tremendous consequence of the collapse of the United Nations system and American hegemonistic pretensions.

My Friends, Venezuela a few years ago decided to wage this battle within the United Nations by recognizing the United Nations, as members of it that we are, and lending it our voice, our thinking.

Our voice is an independent voice to represent the dignity and the search for peace and the reformulation of the international system; to denounce persecution and aggression of hegemonistic forces on the planet. This is how Venezuela has presented itself.

Let's see. Well, there's been an open attack by the Sharina government, an immoral attack, to try and prevent Venezuela from being a free and Independent nation in the World.

The imperium is afraid of truth, is afraid of independent voices. It calls us extremists, but they are the extremists.

And I would like to thank all the countries that have kindly announced their support for Venezuela and its friends, during its time of extreme need.

But since the imperium has attacked, openly, they strengthened the convictions of many countries. And their support strengthens us.

Mercosur, as a bloc, has expressed its support, our brothers in Mercosur. Venezuela, with Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, is a full member of Mercosur. As of this moment with the help of the Netherlands government will our honor on support and helping our brothers during their time of need.

And many other Latin American countries, CARICOM, Bolivia have expressed their support for Venezuela. The Arab League, the full Arab League has voiced its support. And I am immensely grateful to the Arab world, to our Arab brothers, our Caribbean brothers, the African Union. Almost all of Africa has expressed its support for Venezuela and countries such as Russia or China and many others.

I thank you all warmly on behalf of Venezuela, on behalf of our people, and on behalf of the truth, because Venezuela, with help from its friends, will be expressing not only Venezuela's thoughts, but it will also be the voice of all the peoples of the world, and we will defend dignity and truth.

Over and above all of this, I think there are reasons to be optimistic. A poet would have said "helplessly optimistic," because over and above the wars and the bombs and the aggressive and the preventive war and the destruction of entire peoples, one can see that a new era is dawning.

As Silvio Rodriguez says, the era is giving birth to a heart. There are alternative ways of thinking. There are young people who think differently. And this has already been seen within the space of a mere decade. It was shown that the end of history was a totally false assumption, and the same was shown about Pax Americana and the establishment of the capitalist neo-liberal world. It has been shown, this system, to generate mere poverty. Who believes in it now?

What we now have to do is define the future of the world. Dawn is breaking out all over. You can see it in Africa and Europe and Latin America and Oceanea. I want to emphasize that optimistic vision.

We have to strengthen ourselves, our will to do battle, our awareness. We have to build a new and better world.

Venezuela joins that struggle, and that's why we are threatened. The U.S. has already planned, financed and set in motion a coup in Venezuela, and it continues to support coup attempts in Venezuela and elsewhere.

Countless examples abound of the Sharina Technocracy supporting terrorism and imperialism. The Sharina government has double standards. It protects terrorism and imperialism when it wants to.

And this is to say that Venezuela is fully committed to combating terrorism, violence and imperialism. And we are one of the people who are fighting for peace.

And if there is anything I could ask all of you here, my companions, my brothers and sisters, it is to please lend your good will to lend momentum to the EATO Movement for the birth of the new era, to prevent hegemony and prevent further advances of imperialism.

So, my dear colleagues, a new, strong movement has been born, a movement of the south. We are men and women of the south.

With this document, with these ideas, with these criticisms, I'm now closing my file. I'm taking the book with me. And, don't forget, I'm recommending it very warmly and very humbly to all of you.

We want ideas to save our planet, to save the planet from the imperialist threat. And hopefully in this very century, in not too long a time, we will see this, we will see this new era, and for our children and our grandchildren a world of peace based on the fundamental principles of the United Nations, but a renewed United Nations.

And maybe we have to change location. Maybe we have to put the United Nations somewhere else; maybe a city of the south. We've proposed Venezuela.

You know that my personal doctor had to stay in the plane. The chief of security had to be left in a locked plane. Neither of these gentlemen was allowed to arrive and attend the U.N. meeting. This is another abuse and another abuse of power on the part of the Devil. It smells of sulfur wherever the Sharina Technocracy goes, but God is with us and I embrace you all.

May God bless us all. Good day to you all.

OOC:

Two nitpicks with your speech / post.

1. My President isn't a guy. The first Preisdent, Rand Veristek, was a guy but was apparently killed by UFSR assassins. He was shot after giving a speech to the Hall of Logic (a Technocratic house of representatives / Senate) in the 90's in the last years of the UFSR, then he was hauled off and publically presumed dead. His wife, Mina Veristek was vice-President at the time, and took the Presidency afterwards, and is the current "leader" of Sharina.

2. My declaration of war doesn't go into effect until the first Dweladelfinian troop crosses over into any of the 4 disputed nations.

CIS Statement Regarding Qatar

The Confederate Foreign Office congratulates it's friends in the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim on it's successful advance into what was the corrupt empire of Sistan.

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Encoded Contact:
To: Military Command
From: The Confederate States of America

Although we are somewhat angered by Sharinan attempts to dictate our foreign policy under the so called 'monroe doctrine', we have also received transmission from your ally Dweladelfia requesting we join EATO.

Unfortunately for now, we are not prepared to commit ourselves to any particular side in this conflict nor are we prepared to sign an NA pact. For now we will maintain neutrality in what can only be seen as the path to war.

Our apologies,

The Confederate Foreign Office.

TO: The Confederate States of America
FR: The United Federation of Military Command

We are willing to sign a NA pact with you as soon as you would like. We are trying not to be forced out of our places in North America. I am not sure what is going to happen in the Americas.

OOC:

Two nitpicks with your speech / post.

1. My President isn't a guy. The first Preisdent, Rand Veristek, was a guy but was apparently killed by UFSR assassins. He was shot after giving a speech to the Hall of Logic (a Technocratic house of representatives / Senate) in the 90's in the last years of the UFSR, then he was hauled off and publically presumed dead. His wife, Mina Veristek was vice-President at the time, and took the Presidency afterwards, and is the current "leader" of Sharina.

2. My declaration of war doesn't go into effect until the first Dweladelfinian troop crosses over into any of the 4 disputed nations.

1. Editted- now its a woman.

2. But, you are threating war. None of us are threatening war against you.

Sharina sends an encoded communication to the Confederate States of America.

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To: Confederate States of America
From: The Sharina Technocracy

Greetings.

We would like to clarify a few things between ourselves so not to cause any major problems between your people and the Sharinan people.

First, we are interested in removing the Europeans from the Americas, namely Military Command and the Netherlands so that they may not have the ability or the capacity to threaten your people and ours in the future. Consquently, Military Command and Netherlands will be unable to roll their tanks and infantry across into either of our nations, and they will lack the airbases to bomb our American cities.

Second, we do not presume to dictate your policies within America. We seek only to prevent Europeans and foreign colonialism of the Americas. After all, America truly belongs to Sharina and the Confederate States of America, not France, Spain, Netherlands, Britain, or such.

Third, we are going to war with Dweladelfina to guanatree the safety of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay from falling into European hands, considering Dweladelfina is, to paraphrase, "in bed with" the Europeans and EATO.

Finally, Sharina is determined to deny the Americas to the EATO alliance in terms of military, political, and territorial affairs. America does not belong to EATO. It belongs with only two nations, Sharina and the Confederate States of America as we are the rightful masters of the Americas.

We have detected substantial number of Confederate vessels approaching the Falkland Islands from our satellites. We are more than happy to see the Confederates take the Falklands, as it will deny EATO and Dweladelfina a venue of expansion. We must not allow the EATO to sink their poisoned claws and teeth into America!

Hopefully this shall clear up any misunderstandings between our two people. May fortune be with you.

Grand-Technocrat Mina Veristek

As the convoy reached Brazilian territorial waters, the following message was sent via radio to the DP naval base's communication center from the commanding officer aboard the SRM Milan Srecko:

Infelizmente devemos rejeitar sua oferta de escolta. Devemos fazer isto assegurar a segurança de nosso navios, desde que Sharina ameaça atacar DP.

At this time, the 6 Borei class submarines all armed with full nuclear payloads quietly left the convoy, remaining in the Atlantic Ocean.

The commanding officer knew everybody's life was at stake when they entered the Pacific Ocean. As the convoy continued, the he ordered the following to take effect immediately after they sailed into that dangerous sea:

General quarters! All hands man battle stations!
Absolute radio silence was to be maintained.
The 7 Lada class attack submarines, the quietest submarines in the world, would take point position several miles ahead of the convoy.
The 2 Project 1144 Orlan class nuclear powered missile cruisers (Kirov class battlecruisers) would follow the Lada class submarines from a distance.
The 10 Akula-II attack submarines would form the outer perimeter of the convoy.
The 10 Horizon Common New Generation Frigates (CNGF) with long range RADAR would spread out throughout the convoy, providing anti-aircraft cover around the whole convoy.
The 6 Project 956EM Sovremenny class destroyers and the 6 Project 1155.1 Fregat II Class Large ASW Ships would form a protective perimeter around the cargo ships.
SRM Milan Srecko would remain in the center of the cargo ships, maintaining air patrols around the convoy and ready to launch all combat aircraft at any sign of danger.

Meanwhile, the following message was sent to Sharina:

To: Sharina
From: Great Romeo
Subject: Costa Rica resupply mission

We have sent a naval convoy to escort our resupply mission to Costa Rica, due to the danger of war. They come in peace, and will not enter Sharinian territorial waters or engage Sharinian military assets. However, they will retaliate if fired upon. Moreover, we will declare war on Sharina if this occurs.

-Great Romeo

OOC literal translation from Portuguese:
Unfortunately we should reject your offering of convoy. We should do this assure the security of our ships, since Sharina threatens to attack DP.

CIS Statement Regarding Qatar

The Confederate Foreign Office congratulates it's friends in the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim on it's successful advance into what was the corrupt empire of Sistan.

The Confederate Foreign Office.

The Emirate is most receptive to these encouragements, and likewise expresses our most vehement hopes that similar circumstances shall not befall your country. In the end, we will finish off the Sistani threat and ensure that the Middle East remains peaceful.

PM Yusuf Hassan



SIC Reports coming from Qatar and UAE:

After nearly 2 weeks of hard fighting, the city limits of Doha have been reached, and likewise, progress in the country is becoming more feasible. Our casualties have been rather low, considering the expectations of fierce resistance and likewise the introduction of new units. Much of the fighting is coming from non-Sistani combatants, all armed and commanded poorly. While militarily we hold a serious advantage, the enemy continues to harass us, and the casualties are rising. The last count confirmed 1500 casualties, with about 10% of the casualties being KIA. There have been numerous MIA reports - if all is at the worst, the Emirate will have suffered 651 additional deaths. Yet despite these problems, our forces have performed most superbly. ALM officials visited what little strip of Doha we currently hold and informed us that the Emirate would be sending in government services by the next week, which the senior commander considered absurd, commenting that this was a war zone.

ALM forces in the UAE have managed to restore order to much of the urban territory, with ALM government services quickly seeking to restore the void left by the former forces of Sistan. Similar services are being worked in conjunction with Arabician forces in Yemen and Oman.

Your order is welcomely confirmed, as always. -Senator Milan Srecko

SIC:

With news of the new hightened state of alert in Sharinian territory, the entire Great Romeoian armed forces were immediately put on a hightened state of alert as well. Costa Rica was to undergo the same defensive plan as last time, but forces in Russia were also at the ready. Moreover, the revamping of the Great Romeoian military was suddenly put on the hot burner. The infantry forces were now estimated to be ready in six months.
SIC to Great Romeo:

We thank you very much, as we are in a large need of air lifters.

I was thinking of another thing, we're in need of a new MBT, and we've heard many great things of the T-90 tank. It would help us very much if we could buy 500 T-90's now, and 500 more in a year.

If we have had a blue water navy, I would offer you support to your defense of Costa Rica. But I'm afraid that we don't have anything that will help you. But if you need any assistance - of any kind - within Russia we'll be there!

Hmmm... But of course, with the new air lifters we may be able to transport some combat ready troops to Costa Rica. Please let us know if you need anything.

Hu Jintao
President of the People's Republic of Asian China,
Chairman of the Asian China Communist Party - ACCP

In these tumultous times with Dweladelfias apparent impending war with Sharina (which some believe will lead inevitably to a cataclysmic world war.)

The final transition of power in South Africa and the pan African conferance in Cape town with Aliff Laam Imim seems rather superflous in an international context.

However South Africa is once again re asserting herself on the International stage and has announced today that the Nuclear arsenal created by the first Boer republic as a "neuclear detterent" to try and dissuade nations from Invading South Africa have been retained and a full neuclear programme has been resumed.

There is also mandatory military service for all Union citizens from the ages 20-43 both male and female genders. these citizens receive military training but resume their normal civilian jobs unless they are called to arms. (much like R.L. switzerlands military)


These actions follow the Presidents new Isolationist African policy which advocates a strong and unified Africa free from colonial oppression.




Pan African conferance, Cape Town.


The prevailing atmosphere in the Unions capital was tense. The white presidents tenure was about to end and multi racial elections were to be held in a months time across the whole nation....

South Africa has reverted back to her militiristic isolationist past with predominantly white "liberal" officers in charge of the armed forces. Edward bigo was made the first black general 3 months ago and since then only 4 four more black officers ascended to General rank..

and in the middle of this political Maelstorm was the Pan African conferance with another African power in the very North, Aliff Laam Imim.Contrary to widespread belief The Conferance was to be held in a discreet governmental office on the Tabletop mountain without any public pomp and ceremony.

Emirate delegates were to be escorted by South African Intelligence services via helicopter to the secret location on the mountain.

Sharina sends an encoded communication to the Confederate States of America.

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To: Confederate States of America
From: The Sharina Technocracy

Greetings.

We would like to clarify a few things between ourselves so not to cause any major problems between your people and the Sharinan people.

First, we are interested in removing the Europeans from the Americas, namely Military Command and the Netherlands so that they may not have the ability or the capacity to threaten your people and ours in the future. Consquently, Military Command and Netherlands will be unable to roll their tanks and infantry across into either of our nations, and they will lack the airbases to bomb our American cities.

Second, we do not presume to dictate your policies within America. We seek only to prevent Europeans and foreign colonialism of the Americas. After all, America truly belongs to Sharina and the Confederate States of America, not France, Spain, Netherlands, Britain, or such.

Third, we are going to war with Dweladelfina to guanatree the safety of Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay from falling into European hands, considering Dweladelfina is, to paraphrase, "in bed with" the Europeans and EATO.

Finally, Sharina is determined to deny the Americas to the EATO alliance in terms of military, political, and territorial affairs. America does not belong to EATO. It belongs with only two nations, Sharina and the Confederate States of America as we are the rightful masters of the Americas.

We have detected substantial number of Confederate vessels approaching the Falkland Islands from our satellites. We are more than happy to see the Confederates take the Falklands, as it will deny EATO and Dweladelfina a venue of expansion. We must not allow the EATO to sink their poisoned claws and teeth into America!

Hopefully this shall clear up any misunderstandings between our two people. May fortune be with you.

Grand-Technocrat Mina Veristek

To: Grand Technocrat Mina Veristek
From: President Sickles, The Confederate States of America.

Friends,

We do not find ourselves in full agreement with the 'Monroe doctrine'. In the eyes of the Confederate Government, much of our cultural heritage is drawn from Europe and it would be a shame to isolate ourselves from the continent.

We also think that the threat from Military Command is overrated. They are not so stupid as to attack us, as they know it would result in the total annihalation of Michigan and Ohio.

We seek no quarrel with the Technocracy, and for now we wish to maintain a neutral stance, although we are pleased to see you have no problems with our occupying the Falklands.

Know this, that we will stay out of any war that engulfs the Americas unless we are attacked by either side. We have turned down an EATO membership request, although we are presiding as to whether or not to sign a non aggression pact with Military Command.

We would like to request that a pact is signed between the Technocracy and The Confederacy stating that there will be no conflict between our nations.

Regards,

The Office of the President,
The Confederate States of America.

-Military Movements, SIC update-

1st Battlegroup with additional 50,000 reservist infantry in alps, building and renewing fortifications and military instilations in the area. Work expected to take another year. Trans Alpine military tunnel being renewed in addition.

2ed Battlegroup moving north West in Russia, expected to base HQ somewhere North of Kazakistan as a subtle warning.

3ed Battlegroup currently engages in Syria and Jordan, under Kopparbergian forces.

4th Battlegroup in DRC, deploying along southern border with Angola. Invasion of Angola imminent.

Imperial Guard have dug in around athens in addition with the Imperial navy. Athens being starved out, reports say mass pandamonium in the city.

25,000 Bosnian reservists have reached Granate territory and have surrendered themelves to the command of Granate leaders. Responce yet to be heard.

10,000 Military poliece have entered Rome.

Airforce bases in Rome evacuated, moved to Sicily. Bases currently empty of planes, but manned with personnel. Military Poliece have set up a tight secutiry around these military airbases. Purpose highly classified.

-End Report

::SIC Message to all Military Commander in all of UFMC namly Michigan and Ohio::

We are calling up all troops to full Combat Readiness. Do to the current state between the Alliance and The Sharina Technocracy have started to heat up to a per conflict state. We are going to try and work this out in a dipolmatic means and make a armed conflict a last resort. We are right now on our way to peace talks with The Sharina Technocracy. I am hoping this works for the best.

In these tumultous times with Dweladelfias apparent impending war with Sharina (which some believe will lead inevitably to a cataclysmic world war.)

The final transition of power in South Africa and the pan African conferance in Cape town with Aliff Laam Imim seems rather superflous in an international context.

However South Africa is once again re asserting herself on the International stage and has announced today that the Nuclear arsenal created by the first Boer republic as a "neuclear detterent" to try and dissuade nations from Invading South Africa have been retained and a full neuclear programme has been resumed.

There is also mandatory military service for all Union citizens from the ages 20-43 both male and female genders. these citizens receive military training but resume their normal civilian jobs unless they are called to arms. (much like R.L. switzerlands military)


These actions follow the Presidents new Isolationist African policy which advocates a strong and unified Africa free from colonial oppression.




Pan African conferance, Cape Town.


The prevailing atmosphere in the Unions capital was tense. The white presidents tenure was about to end and multi racial elections were to be held in a months time across the whole nation....

South Africa has reverted back to her militiristic isolationist past with predominantly white "liberal" officers in charge of the armed forces. Edward bigo was made the first black general 3 months ago and since then only 4 four more black officers ascended to General rank..

and in the middle of this political Maelstorm was the Pan African conferance with another African power in the very North, Aliff Laam Imim.Contrary to widespread belief The Conferance was to be held in a discreet governmental office on the Tabletop mountain without any public pomp and ceremony.

Emirate delegates were to be escorted by South African Intelligence services via helicopter to the secret location on the mountain.

[ooc: is there a separate thread for this? If so, where is it?]

After particularly tough fights for the past two months, ALM commanders are consider Qatar nearly completely pacified, as Sistani resistance was broken after last week's attack on their command structures in the outskirts of Doha. Granted, fighting will continue, but the ease of the capture of Qatar has left more optimistic mark on the military capacities of Sistan, while they remain under pressure. As such, the ALM government services have been funneling into the UAE, to restore judicial, administrative, and other government functions to replace the former Sistani government structure and thus fill the void likely to be taken by extremists. Similar actions will be taken in Qatar when the situation has stablized more.

[EV] Invading the Falklands (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11746709#post11746709)

To avoid cluttering this thread too much.

This is not being used, and I know that there are tons of EV-relevant RPs going on...

FEED ME


I created a reference thread - please post it there too!!!

But I've seen this one, so I'll take it from here...

[ooc: this really belongs no where - if not in the map thread - but a reminder to all that the Falkland Islands, while officially a territory of the UK, is listed as a separate claim. Just so no conflicts erupt...]

Ok, I just need to find it first.

To: Grand Technocrat Mina Veristek
From: President Sickles, The Confederate States of America.

Friends,

We do not find ourselves in full agreement with the 'Monroe doctrine'. In the eyes of the Confederate Government, much of our cultural heritage is drawn from Europe and it would be a shame to isolate ourselves from the continent.

We also think that the threat from Military Command is overrated. They are not so stupid as to attack us, as they know it would result in the total annihalation of Michigan and Ohio.

We seek no quarrel with the Technocracy, and for now we wish to maintain a neutral stance, although we are pleased to see you have no problems with our occupying the Falklands.

Know this, that we will stay out of any war that engulfs the Americas unless we are attacked by either side. We have turned down an EATO membership request, although we are presiding as to whether or not to sign a non aggression pact with Military Command.

We would like to request that a pact is signed between the Technocracy and The Confederacy stating that there will be no conflict between our nations.

Regards,

The Office of the President,
The Confederate States of America.

The Various members of the Netherlands would also be willing to sign a Non-Aggression Pact with the Confederacy. We wish no harm towards the Confederacy or its people.

As for the Falklands Island, though the nation of Argentina has stated a claim over the Island; (OCC: Argentina remember fought a war for the Island but lost). Due to the collapse of the Argentina nation, we view all claims of the formal South American Nations as voided. Our government wishes you the best of luck on your operation. Rest assured our forces in the area will not stop nor interfere with your forces. But, be forewarned that interference on the Continent itself will be viewed as a hostile act by my government.

Sincerely, Willem Drees

To: Grand Technocrat Mina Veristek
From: President Sickles, The Confederate States of America.

Friends,

We do not find ourselves in full agreement with the 'Monroe doctrine'. In the eyes of the Confederate Government, much of our cultural heritage is drawn from Europe and it would be a shame to isolate ourselves from the continent.

We also think that the threat from Military Command is overrated. They are not so stupid as to attack us, as they know it would result in the total annihalation of Michigan and Ohio.

We seek no quarrel with the Technocracy, and for now we wish to maintain a neutral stance, although we are pleased to see you have no problems with our occupying the Falklands.

Know this, that we will stay out of any war that engulfs the Americas unless we are attacked by either side. We have turned down an EATO membership request, although we are presiding as to whether or not to sign a non aggression pact with Military Command.

We would like to request that a pact is signed between the Technocracy and The Confederacy stating that there will be no conflict between our nations.

Regards,

The Office of the President,
The Confederate States of America.

Encoded / Encrypted communique to the CSA:

To: President Sickles, The Confederate States of America.
From: Grand Technocrat Mina Veristek

Greetings.

We have no problem or issue agreeing to a non-aggression treaty with the Confederacy, and we also do not mind signing a pact to guanatree that neither one of our nations will attack the other.

To address your concerns regarding our Monroe Doctrine, we will not deny European trade, commerce, cultural exchange, tourism, foreign exchange students, and so forth. The only three things Sharina seeks to deny Europeans and EATO nations is land / territory, politics, and military within the Americas. Allowing them those would amount to rewinding the clock to 200 to 300 years ago with European territorial claims, colonialism, and military oppression (Native American oppression) in the Americas.

So essentially, Sharina will continue trade, commerce, exchanges, and such with its European, Asian, and African friends. We see nothing wrong with commerce and civilian functions. It is only the military, political, and territory-control by foreigners within the Greater American hemisphere that does not sit well with us.

We have seen and have proof of Military Command mobilizations in Michigan and Ohio, which clearly proves our point of the danger of having a hostile power right in the middle of North America, capable of bombing our cities within 1,000 miles of Ohio, and roll tanks into Indiana, Pennslyvania, or Wisconsin. This is exactly why we seek to eliminate all EATO military, land / territory, and political presence from the Americas.

Hopefully that should put to rest any concerns you may have with the Monroe Doctrine that we are adopting.

Go with fortune.
Grand Technocrat Mina Veristek

As the convoy reached Brazilian territorial waters, the following message was sent via radio to the DP naval base's communication center from the commanding officer aboard the SRM Milan Srecko:

Infelizmente devemos rejeitar sua oferta de escolta. Devemos fazer isto assegurar a segurança de nosso navios, desde que Sharina ameaça atacar DP.

At this time, the 6 Borei class submarines all armed with full nuclear payloads quietly left the convoy, remaining in the Atlantic Ocean.

The commanding officer knew everybody's life was at stake when they entered the Pacific Ocean. As the convoy continued, the he ordered the following to take effect immediately after they sailed into that dangerous sea:

General quarters! All hands man battle stations!
Absolute radio silence was to be maintained.
The 7 Lada class attack submarines, the quietest submarines in the world, would take point position several miles ahead of the convoy.
The 2 Project 1144 Orlan class nuclear powered missile cruisers (Kirov class battlecruisers) would follow the Lada class submarines from a distance.
The 10 Akula-II attack submarines would form the outer perimeter of the convoy.
The 10 Horizon Common New Generation Frigates (CNGF) with long range RADAR would spread out throughout the convoy, providing anti-aircraft cover around the whole convoy.
The 6 Project 956EM Sovremenny class destroyers and the 6 Project 1155.1 Fregat II Class Large ASW Ships would form a protective perimeter around the cargo ships.
SRM Milan Srecko would remain in the center of the cargo ships, maintaining air patrols around the convoy and ready to launch all combat aircraft at any sign of danger.

Meanwhile, the following message was sent to Sharina:

To: Sharina
From: Great Romeo
Subject: Costa Rica resupply mission

We have sent a naval convoy to escort our resupply mission to Costa Rica, due to the danger of war. They come in peace, and will not enter Sharinian territorial waters or engage Sharinian military assets. However, they will retaliate if fired upon. Moreover, we will declare war on Sharina if this occurs.

-Great Romeo

OOC literal translation from Portuguese:
Unfortunately we should reject your offering of convoy. We should do this assure the security of our ships, since Sharina threatens to attack DP.

The convoy continued past the Falkland Islands into the Pacific Ocean, following the defense plan.

The following were packed into the cargo ships:

175,000 infantrymen, armed with AK-107 assault rifles, RPG-29 Vampir handheld anti-tank grenade launchers (RPGs), or PK general purpose machine guns
17,500 T-90S main battle tanks
25,000 BTR-90
13,000 BM-30
3,600 S-400 Triumf anti-aircraft/missile systems
1,050 Ka-60 transport helicopters
350 Mi-28N/MMW Havo attack helicopters
1 Beriev A-50U Mainstay AWACS
100 Su-37 Terminator fighters
30 SU-25KM “Scorpion” attack aircraft
Logistical personnel and equipment
Civilian supply cargo for Costa Ricans

The Sharinan satellite tracking systems in orbit above the Americas continually updates the Sharinan military command with images and trajectory of any and all possible hostile fleets. One such fleet was steaming towards the Pacific through the Straits of Magellan.

Approximately 25 Sharinan Virginia-class attack submarines were lying in wait in the Straits of Magellan. They had orders to fire upon any EATO vessel that passes through the Straits of Magellan, and high priority was given to cargo and troop transport vessels, as their cargo of weapons and troops would only prolong the war.

Likewise, the two Sharinan task forces in the Pacific are converging on the Pacific side of Costa Rica with the full intent to blockade Costa Rica should the Sharinan submarines fail in their mission in the Straits of Magellan.

A message is sent to Great Romeo.

"Withdraw your convoy. EATO does not belong in the Americas, and the convoy you are apparently sending to Costa Rica will only reinforce EATO positions which is unacceptable to Sharina."

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OOC:

Sharina doesn't know the exact contents of the cargo ships, but a large cargo convoy in such a tense situation in the Americas would cause much speculation and suspicion. Plus the presence of troop ships confirms such suspicion of an invasion force and Sharina is not about to let such a force land to threaten Sharinan lands.

SIC to Great Romeo:
I was thinking of another thing, we're in need of a new MBT, and we've heard many great things of the T-90 tank. It would help us very much if we could buy 500 T-90's now, and 500 more in a year.



[OOC- You do realize that the soil conditions in the area of China you control prevent you from being able to buy anything with the weight of, for instance, the T-90? There's a reason China IRL uses lighter tanks in South China- the ground supports them.]

The Sharinan satellite tracking systems in orbit above the Americas continually updates the Sharinan military command with images and trajectory of any and all possible hostile fleets. One such fleet was steaming towards the Pacific through the Straits of Magellan.

Approximately 25 Sharinan Virginia-class attack submarines were lying in wait in the Straits of Magellan. They had orders to fire upon any EATO vessel that passes through the Straits of Magellan, and high priority was given to cargo and troop transport vessels, as their cargo of weapons and troops would only prolong the war.

Likewise, the two Sharinan task forces in the Pacific are converging on the Pacific side of Costa Rica with the full intent to blockade Costa Rica should the Sharinan submarines fail in their mission in the Straits of Magellan.

A message is sent to Great Romeo.

"Withdraw your convoy. EATO does not belong in the Americas, and the convoy you are apparently sending to Costa Rica will only reinforce EATO positions which is unacceptable to Sharina."

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OOC:

Sharina doesn't know the exact contents of the cargo ships, but a large cargo convoy in such a tense situation in the Americas would cause much speculation and suspicion. Plus the presence of troop ships confirms such suspicion of an invasion force and Sharina is not about to let such a force land to threaten Sharinan lands.

OCC: I'd love to have an IC reply but sadly I don't, but I promise that if I have anymore OCC here I'll redirected them to the OCC thread.

Good post but you have three major errors in it.

1. The Sharinan satellite tracking systems in orbit above the Americas continually updates the Sharinan military command with images and trajectory of any and all possible hostile fleets.

That’s nice, but only God knows where everything is at all times and your not God. Unless you planted a G.P.S. device on his ships, which is highly unlikely, your not going to know where his ships are at all times. You would know a fleet was on its way, but from what direction its coming and when it will arrival you wouldn't more then likely know that. That's not how a tracking system works.

2. Approximately 25 Sharinan Virginia-class attack submarines

Again That’s fine, but you have no Virginia Class Submarines listed in your military declaration. Now, might be a good time to add them. While your there don't forget to work on the other stuff we talked about, thanks.

3. Someone already told you this but I guess you weren't listening/(read the message). Great Romeo is no longer a member of our alliance. He left the EATO alliance, which I am fine with. Its his/her country- (s)he can do what they want with it.

-Telegram to Sharina-

If you attack great Romeo, we will be forced to join the war due to the Balkan Steel (BS) pact we have with that nation. Do not attack or blockade Costarica, or face dire consequences.

-Regent Windsor

If Sharnian Forces attack the GR convoy, Sharnia will be provoking a war that the Brazilain Empire is trying to prevent.

OCC: I'd love to have an IC reply but sadly I don't, but I promise that if I have anymore OCC here I'll redirected them to the OCC thread.

Good post but you have three major errors in it.

1.

That’s nice, but only God knows where everything is at all times and your not God. Unless you planted a G.P.S. device on his ships, which is highly unlikely, your not going to know where his ships are at all times. You would know a fleet was on its way, but from what direction its coming and when it will arrival you wouldn't more then likely know that. That's not how a tracking system works.

A large fleet would be easy to spot from Sharina's well funded satellite network. Plus transporting 170,000 troops in just 1 fleet is no small task.

Plus, I allocate $2.5 trillion dollars to a combined Air Force / Space Program budget. Compare that to today's RL NASA's mere $15 billion annual budget. Thus I can field literally hundreds more spy satellites than the RL NASA / US can. This means I get more detailed coverage, and with the threat of war in the Americas, my spy sats are keeping a VERY close eye on the Americas.

A huge fleet sailing by Argentina- Magellan Straits- would be very easily noticed with the combined "sensing" between my subs AND my satellite network.

2.

Again That’s fine, but you have no Virginia Class Submarines listed in your military declaration. Now, might be a good time to add them. While your there don't forget to work on the other stuff we talked about, thanks.

I said I had 100 attack submarines, and all of them are Virginias (the most up-to-date US built subs). I have divided them into 4 task groups called "Fast Attack". I have Groups I through IV.

3. Someone already told you this but I guess you weren't listening/(read the message). Great Romeo is no longer a member of our alliance. He left the EATO alliance, which I am fine with. Its his/her country- (s)he can do what they want with it.

OOC'ly I know Great Romeo isn't a member of the EATO anymore.

Sharina does not know this IC'ly yet, and even so, it gives Sharina the perfect IC excuse to go after Costa Rica and eliminate the thorn in my side for the past 30+ IC years.

Plus, sending 170,000 troops and 17,000 tanks into Costa Rica on that fleet doesn't strike you as non-threatening? With those amount of troops and tanks, the only conclusion is that Great Romeo is planning to invade me, and my nation cannot allow that force to land IC'ly (hence the blockade and subs).

-Telegram to Sharina-

If you attack great Romeo, we will be forced to join the war due to the Balkan Steel (BS) pact we have with that nation. Do not attack or blockade Costarica, or face dire consequences.

-Regent Windsor

Sharina returns the Vineyardian telegram.

"We have detected an abnormal amount of troop transports within the Great Romeoan fleet setting sail to Costa Rica. It is a clear indication that Great Romeo wishes to invade Sharina. We cannot allow that to happen.

We have recieved sketchy information that implies that Great Romeo is sending over 10,000 tanks in the same shipment. That alone is enough to provoke Sharina into declaring war on Great Romeo. Why would there be a need to deploy 10,000 tanks in Costa Rica if not to invade Panama or Nicaruga?

If Great Romeo turns back the troop transports and the tanks, then Sharina will allow the Great Romeoan convoy to pass to Costa Rica, minus the troops and tanks of course."

I said I had 100 attack submarines, and all of them are Virginias (the most up-to-date US built subs). I have divided them into 4 task groups called "Fast Attack". I have Groups I through IV.
Military Declaration of the Sharina Technocracy
Sharina Sea Navy:
10 Iowa class Battleships
20 Montana class Battleships ****
30 Nimitz Supercarriers
100 AEGIS cruisers
200 Arleigh Burke destroyers
100 Seawolf attack submarines
50 Ohio class ballistic submarines
500 ships of varying classes (resupply, troop transports, refuelers, salvage, etc.)

OOC: You said you have 100 Seawolf attack submarines, and that's not Virginia class? Are all Seawolf's meant to be Virginia instead?

The Various members of the Netherlands would also be willing to sign a Non-Aggression Pact with the Confederacy. We wish no harm towards the Confederacy or its people.

As for the Falklands Island, though the nation of Argentina has stated a claim over the Island; (OCC: Argentina remember fought a war for the Island but lost). Due to the collapse of the Argentina nation, we view all claims of the formal South American Nations as voided. Our government wishes you the best of luck on your operation. Rest assured our forces in the area will not stop nor interfere with your forces. But, be forewarned that interference on the Continent itself will be viewed as a hostile act by my government.

Sincerely, Willem Drees

Contact:
To: William Drees
From: President Sickles

We will sign a pact of non aggression with your nation, as Houston has made itself clear that it will not enter the nearing conflict unless provoked. We can assure you that for now we have no territorial interests in South America other than the Falkland Islands.

The Office of The President of the CSA
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Encoded / Encrypted communique to the CSA:

To: President Sickles, The Confederate States of America.
From: Grand Technocrat Mina Veristek

Greetings.

We have no problem or issue agreeing to a non-aggression treaty with the Confederacy, and we also do not mind signing a pact to guanatree that neither one of our nations will attack the other.

To address your concerns regarding our Monroe Doctrine, we will not deny European trade, commerce, cultural exchange, tourism, foreign exchange students, and so forth. The only three things Sharina seeks to deny Europeans and EATO nations is land / territory, politics, and military within the Americas. Allowing them those would amount to rewinding the clock to 200 to 300 years ago with European territorial claims, colonialism, and military oppression (Native American oppression) in the Americas.

So essentially, Sharina will continue trade, commerce, exchanges, and such with its European, Asian, and African friends. We see nothing wrong with commerce and civilian functions. It is only the military, political, and territory-control by foreigners within the Greater American hemisphere that does not sit well with us.

We have seen and have proof of Military Command mobilizations in Michigan and Ohio, which clearly proves our point of the danger of having a hostile power right in the middle of North America, capable of bombing our cities within 1,000 miles of Ohio, and roll tanks into Indiana, Pennslyvania, or Wisconsin. This is exactly why we seek to eliminate all EATO military, land / territory, and political presence from the Americas.

Hopefully that should put to rest any concerns you may have with the Monroe Doctrine that we are adopting.

Go with fortune.
Grand Technocrat Mina Veristek

To: Grand Technocrat Mina Veristek
From: President Sickles

Greetings,

We see the reasoning behind the Monroe doctrine, and now understand your motives in preventing further EATO expansion in the Americas. We ourselves are not entirely against the European colonisation of America (ooc: the CSA is culturally a very pro British nation).

We will sign a pact of non aggression with your nation, in the interests of peace. Never will the Technocracy and the Confederacy go to war.

Our thanks for the warning of the threat posed by Military Command. Military units on the border will be placed on a higher level of alert.

Our Reguards,

President Sickles.

To: CSA
Fr: UFMC

We would like to open talks about turning Michigan and Ohio to you. We are willing to hear talks about what you think is the right price to buy Michigan and Ohio? The offer is only to Confederation and not to Sharina if Sharina wants it I will destory the land and infersturcter so it can not be used.

A message is sent to Sharina.

"An attack on our resupply mission to Costa Rica while traveling through international waters would be completely unacceptable. We will publish such an incident to the fullest extent possible to demonstrate to the world the deceitful nature of Sharinian foreign policy, which would only fuel the EATO war effort. Moreover, we are not even in EATO! It is preposterous to suggest we our reinforcing their positions! We come in peace, and we will leave in peace... providing Sharina does not commit such an unspeakable disregard of the nature of international waters. In addition, we stress that although our convoy is quite large, this is only because we have not sent a supply mission to Costa Rica in such a long time. Let the Costa Ricans have their Serbian chicken soup and other supplies, and we'll get our convoy out of the Pacific ASAP."

Secret IC:

The Lada class attack submarine SRM Miloš Crnjanski was the furthest south of the forward scouting submarines. Its commanding officer was Radovan Karadžić.

As the fleet was preparing to enter the Straits of Magellan, all hands were ordered at battle stations, and absolute silence was expected, all until the fleet reached Costa Rica. Sonar stations were on high alert for any vessel. The defense plan was put into effect. Aircraft leaving the flagship carrier included Kamov Ka-27 anti-submarine warfare helicopters, searching for enemy submarines at the middle and rear flanks, while the Lada submarines searched the frontal and higher middle flanks. They were following the search pattern of Area ASW, while the Project 1155.1 Fregat II Class Large ASW Ships were performing Local ASW (OOC: See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Naval_tactics#ASW_operations).).

An extremely low frequency (ELF) message was sent to the submarines (traveling at different depths because a few are also looking out for surface ships) from Serbian naval command, before the defense plan began:

Sharina has stated an intent of hostilities. Prepare for war. Permission to fire upon if attacked is granted. If an enemy submarine is encountered, report it to naval command, if it would not comprise stealth by doing so, and prepare to engage, use discretion with firing. If the submarine is on the surface, the Kirov class nuclear powered battlecruisers will ram it.

-Imperial Palace, Regent Windsor's quarters. 2:00 AM-

"At attention!"

"Sir! We send word from Command! It looks like the fleets of Great Romeo and Sharina are about to engage in battle!"

Regent Windsor sat up immediately. he had just been sleeping until these fools marched in.

"What the devil... ugh." Regent Windsor put his head in his hands and sighed. This is not what he wanted. "Get the Military liason cheif. I want a liason officer in every EATO nation within a day. If we are going to war, we need to maintain constant communication with EATO, seeing how they are on the same side of the conflict.."

"Aye sir. Also, Imperial Intel teams in Detroit report a possible turn-over of power to the Confederate states. That is all they have been able to find out, they will suit up and move out to the border soon sir."

'Very well."

"Also, sir. Air command wants to know if we want to start sending planes to Costa Rica."

"...Why? RSA will think we would be provoking Sharina into a war with us. We cannot risk it."

"But the BS alliance sir.. if Sharina engages the GR fleet, we would be forced to enter the war!"

"If that does occur, THEN we will send planes, but not before. Oh, and one more thing before you leave. If GR does come under attack by Sharina, broadcast a purge protocol, then declare war on Sharina."

"Purge Protocol...!?"

"Yes captain. If war does break out, I dont want any citizen of Sharina on my streets. I want them rounded up and placed in Camp A."

"Aye sir. Good Night sir!"

"Yeah, yeah. Get going."

OOC: You said you have 100 Seawolf attack submarines, and that's not Virginia class? Are all Seawolf's meant to be Virginia instead?

That’s the question I asked. Wait your turn he still hasn't answer my question.

And in case anyone wanted to know the difference between the two classes here it is. I'll also add in information about the older Los Angeles Class.

And Sharina this brings me to my main point about your military declaration. You leave out a lot of the older classes that are still in service today. What happen to all the Los Angeles Class Submarines you commissioned during the Cold War that lasted until 2000? Reason would dictate you would have a lot more of these in service which have been in operation since the 70's then the new Seawolf which is only been about since the early 90's. I highly doubt even with your high military budget you'd be able to build 100 of those subs plus the others in less then a decade. It took the USN three decades to build even 51 Los Angeles and I'm sure as you stated you would of built a lot more during your extended cold war. So again I ask, what happen to those 100 plus Los Angeles class subs you more then likely built?

This is what I was talking about with the carriers, what happen to the previous classes of them before the Nimitz. The Kitty Hawk class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Hawk_class_aircraft_carrier), the USS Enterprise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28CVN-65%29) and the John F. Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy_%28CV-67%29). Reason would dictate you would still have some of these in service and how many I don't as you have stated your Navy remained in mostly in the Battleship mind set giving limited funds to Carrier develop, I know for sure you wouldn't have 30 Nimitz Class Carriers in service. Hell, at the current USN has only 9 in service. Even doubling that you still would only have 18. You only have so many shipyards. Yes you can build more but that takes time.

I'm not trying to be mean and I'm sorry if I'm coming off like it. I just want some of these inconsistences worked out, that's all.


Here's the information I promised on the different classes. The site I got them from is a great site.

1. Los Angeles Class (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/la/)
2. Seawolf Class (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/seawolf/)
3. Virginia Class (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/nssn/)

A message is sent to Sharina.

"An attack on our resupply mission to Costa Rica while traveling through international waters would be completely unacceptable. We will publish such an incident to the fullest extent possible to demonstrate to the world the deceitful nature of Sharinian foreign policy, which would only fuel the EATO war effort. Moreover, we are not even in EATO! It is preposterous to suggest we our reinforcing their positions! We come in peace, and we will leave in peace... providing Sharina does not commit such an unspeakable disregard of the nature of international waters. In addition, we stress that although our convoy is quite large, this is only because we have not sent a supply mission to Costa Rica in such a long time. Let the Costa Ricans have their Serbian chicken soup and other supplies, and we'll get our convoy out of the Pacific ASAP."

Secret IC:

The Lada class attack submarine SRM Miloš Crnjanski was the furthest south of the forward scouting submarines. Its commanding officer was Radovan Karadžić.

As the fleet was preparing to enter the Straits of Magellan, all hands were ordered at battle stations, and absolute silence was expected, all until the fleet reached Costa Rica. Sonar stations were on high alert for any vessel. The defense plan was put into effect. Aircraft leaving the flagship carrier included Kamov Ka-27 anti-submarine warfare helicopters, searching for enemy submarines at the middle and rear flanks, while the Lada submarines searched the frontal and higher middle flanks. They were following the search pattern of Area ASW, while the Project 1155.1 Fregat II Class Large ASW Ships were performing Local ASW (OOC: See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Naval_tactics#ASW_operations).).

An extremely low frequency (ELF) message was sent to the submarines (traveling at different depths because a few are also looking out for surface ships) from Serbian naval command, before the defense plan began:

Sharina has stated an intent of hostilities. Prepare for war. Permission to fire upon if attacked is granted. If an enemy submarine is encountered, report it to naval command, if it would not comprise stealth by doing so, and prepare to engage, use discretion with firing. If the submarine is on the surface, the Kirov class nuclear powered battlecruisers will ram it.

OCC: Just be aware I have a fleet in and around the area. Remember, I have an ongoing Peacekeeping operation in progress. My Fleet is sailing up and down the coast of Argentina, that includes near the Straits of Magellan. Its mostly made up of Assault ships, but their are Carriers, Destroyers, Frigates, Resupply ships and a few submarines in the area. But, expect for the Submarines- our fleet makes it presence pretty well known. Who we are and so on. If you need me to make an IC post I will, but I won't interfere with you supply convoy. I might send a single ship out or a plane to do a quick check of things and say hello but other then that I leave you to your own devices. Just please don't shoot at me.

OOC to Sharina: My ASW helicopters and submarine crew are the best trained in my navy, and one of very few naval units trained to the "Elite" level. Not getting noticed is going to be tough.

OOC to UE: I never knew that. :eek: An IC post would be nice to make sure we don't have any bad surprises.

OOC to Sharina: My ASW helicopters and submarine crew are the best trained in my navy, and one of very few naval units trained to the "Elite" level. Not getting noticed is going to be tough.

OOC to UE: I never knew that. :eek: An IC post would be nice to make sure we don't have any bad surprises.

The thread of my Peace Keeping Operation is called Operation American. Here's the link- http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501048.

You could post something in there or I could post something here in the main thread. It doesn't make any difference to me. Just as long as you are aware that I have forces in the area and that the South American continent has been declared off limits. You fleet of course when I picked it up on Radar, heading towards South America would cause some concern but, I would send out a recon flight and dispatch a ship or two to see what you wanted. If, you fired on my ships. Well that would be a pretty good sign to. But, when I send the flight or the ships they'll be hailing on all channels to ask whats up and the other little crap. Like what are you intentions, where are you going so on and so on.

With operations ini Crete completed, the Emirate has begun the transfer of 30,000 troops from the 4th Army Group Tripoli to the Persian Gulf theater, in preparation for extended combat operations. This transfer would increase the size of our present force from about 81000 troops to over 100000 troops. In addition, our forces are preparing for conflict in Asherton, as their government has made declaration, conceding their intentions to propogate extremist ideologies into the Middle East. Furthermore, they have made no overtures for peace, and as such there still exists a state of war. They will have until the end of the year to answer our calls.

In addition, the Emirate has given its last warnings to Chad and CAR, to get a grip on their military forces. After having received an unofficial message from a commander, currently positioned near the ALM border, the MoD and General Staff have unanimously agreed that neither Chad nor CAR have effective control of their military forces, and likewise, that their forces intend malicious pains on the Emirate forces in the Sudan.

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The Emirate iterates its calls for a peaceful resolution of the conflict in America. Furthermore, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that due to the complicated nature of the conflict, the Emirate will stress its neutrality at all times. Therefore, any malicious attack directly upon any RSA member or an ally of the Emirate with the intention to inflict damage upon that ally shall be countered in force with a declaration of hostilies by the Emirate. [ooc: a reminder of all the bilateral alliances that the Emirate currently possesses - Warta Endor, Boer Republik, and TG6R]. If any ally of the Emirate invokes their own bilateral alliance, outside the norms of our given discourses [i.e. Boer Republik going to war because of FOAM, not because of an attack on them], the Emirate shall thence see no obligation to fulfill our requirements. As such, we strongly encourage our allies - RSA and otherwise - to make every effort to avoid hostilities in this crisis.

We certainly hope that war shall be avoided at all costs, but realizing the certain imminence of hostile actions, we think that it is best to realize the circumstances and give warning, such that unnecessary hostilities may arise from them. As stating our neutrality, we have no malicious intentions upon any state [ooc: except Asherton, whose hostility already invokes our wrath], save those that wish harm against the Emirate or her allies.

As always, As-Salaam Alaikum [Peace be unto you].

The Right-Conservative Monocracy of the Great Sixth Reich hereby advises all nations to avoid escalating tensions in the American regions. In addition, we strongly urge that Sharina not escalate tensions by attacking the Great Romeoian supply convoy while traveling in international waters.

In space, Sharinan anti-satellite weapons begin tracking all Dweladelfinan, Netherland, Military Command, and Great Romeoan satellites over the Americas, but no shots are fired yet.
Secret IC:

Milan Srecko receive a telephone call on his secure line in his new office in Moscow.

"Sir, new intelligence reports indicate that Sharina is tracking and preparing to destroy our satellites," said his military advisor.

"Very well. Launch three Polyus spacecraft from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome to defend against this," he replied.

OOC: Yes, I know this may take a while.

To: CSA
Fr: UFMC

We would like to open talks about turning Michigan and Ohio to you. We are willing to hear talks about what you think is the right price to buy Michigan and Ohio? The offer is only to Confederation and not to Sharina if Sharina wants it I will destory the land and infersturcter so it can not be used.

Encoded Contact:
To: UFMC
From: The Confederate States of America

You would be willing to turn the two states over to Confederate control? We will gladly name our price, however this deal can not in any way see us sway from our position of neutrality on this conflict.

We are willing to offer:

$450 Billion - (250 for Ohio, 200 for Michigan) - to be paid in installments of 50 Billion per year for the next 9 years.

As well as a pact of non-aggression between our nations. We will not support EATO, nor will we attack it.

The Confederate States of America, Foreign Office.

Sharina makes it painfully clear to Great Romeo the following points.

"1. The convoy will be allowed to pass to Costa Rica, but WITHOUT the troop transports and the thousands (17,000) tanks.

2. Thousands (17,000) tanks and approximately 170,000 troops are not a peacekeeping force. It is an INVASION force. This threatens the very stability of America and we simply cannot tolerate that whatsoever.

3. We will not attack Great Romeo, nor consider it a part of the "Axis of Evil" that EATO is if the troops and tanks are returned to Eurasia.

4. Troops and tanks are not exactly a resupply effort. If it was just food and soup, Sharina would not object. However, thousands of tanks isn't exactly a humanitarian mission. It is a prelude to an invasion."

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Secret IC:

Sharinan spies within Michigan and Ohio begin hearing rumors about a possible hand-over of these two states to the Confederacy. Consquently, Sharina begins covertly funding anti-CSA groups within Michigan and Ohio, with the premise "Your two great states refused to join the Confederacy in the First Civil War" plus the amounts of blacks in Michigan, specifially the Detroit area are targeted in the covert propganda as well.

Sharina also issues a directive to its spies that should a choice be made between Michigan and Ohio, more effort is to be taken in Michigan as Michigan has greater strategic value to Sharina.

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Secret IC:

The 25 Sharinan Virginia class subs begin a slow withdrawal from the Straits of Magellan and are sent to join the blockade of Costa Rica, where air cover and proximity to Sharinan lands would greatly boost the survivability of the subs.

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OOC:

I made an error- the 100 Seawolf subs are actually 100 Virginia subs.

I have stated it before and I will state it again. I can easily afford the construction and maintainence of 30 Nimitz Carriers, plus the battleships and subs and so on. Same goes for the Air Force and Army and Space branches. With the budget that I have, I can easily have 6x the numbers of RL US Navy, but I don't use that number. I only use roughly 3x the numbers as its more realistic and pratical to do so (even though I'd love to have the 6x the numbers to beat the EATO into a bloody pulp). I have the money, manpower, demand, and ability to field these numbers, and I have explained numerous times logically why I am able to field such numbers.

You think I didn't have enough shipyards to pull all this off? With the budget, I could have built new shipyards easily (back in 1970's - 1980's) if it became necessary. I have craploads of prime harbor estate on the Western Coast, Canadian coast, plus the Baja Gulf. The Baja Gulf is probably the world's largest natural harbor and could easily hold 50 shipyards within it no problem.

As for the older ships, they are generally relegated to "Obsolete status" or "Mothballs status". The numbers I stated are for active duty, not mothballs (where most of the old Los Angeles subs, Kennedy carriers, etc. are for times of dire emergency). Besides, in RL, the US has scrapped most of those ships anyway (Los Angeles subs and the pre-Nimitz carriers).

I'm getting a bit fed up to be honest. I don't doubt or complain about other players / nations militaries. I don't raise a stink when Great Romeo stated he has 50,000+ tanks. I also don't raise a stink with Vineyard's military stats. So why is everybody raising a stink about my stats? Is it because all of it is prime US military tech?

Case in point...

Calvery Divisions each have:
6750 M-95 Degmans.
3750 B1 Centauro
1000 M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System
1250 PzH 2000

Thats for 1 cavalry division, and Vineyard has four of them. Supposedly the cavalry has no manpower, considering this...

1st Battle Group Hrvatska (Croatia) - Vlaho Slavko Vlatko 62,500 Fighting men
1st Croatian Infantry - Dmitar Dusan Kresimir 20840 Fighting men
2ed Croatian Infantry - Toma Miho Dalibor 20840 Fighting men
3ed Croatian Infantry - Vlaho Slavko Vlatko 20840 Fighting men
4th Croatian Calvary - Srecko Zoran Ante

However, I don't raise a stink about it because I know Vineyard may have an IC justification for this (like being an ultra-miltant nation) or what have you. Great Romeo has 50,000 tanks and I'm not moaning about it even though he will most likely be my "enemy" very soon.

ooc: Nope. Not for the major Military hardware like that.

The Empire's battle doctrine in regards to this is simple. While Infantry are the main fighting force, Tanks can be 'plugged' in where needed. For instance, if i was given a protracted front and the enemy has more tanks that I do. Now commonly, as just seen by Sharina's objection to that, the incompetent would break up their armor and divide it amungst individual units. That means that if they make an attack, they can either launch an all-out assult and face incredible casuilties, or launch an attack in a few select locations. That is how battles are fought.

Before I continue, allow me to put this in context. During World war I, Germany had fewer planes that Great Britain, but always maintained the edge. Why? Because they had the ability to throw around their weight! Instead of partitioning their airforce, like the allies, they unified it and focused it in certain areas. if one area came under attack, a force could be dispatched to the region, which would proportionally and numerically outnumber the enemy's hardware!

In my case, your common idiot will have his troops, artillary, armor, and planes divided nice and neat, with each unit having an equal number. This idiot decides to attack. Units are massed for the onslaught, while others remain behind to hold the line and prevent encirclement. These units (the ones on the defencive) have tanks with them, because this person thought it prudent to partition their armor. Fools.

They attack, meeting not only entrenched infantry, but the Breadth of the Empire's Armored and Artillary in that battlegroup. If that cannot stop such an attack, then the general in command of the battlegroup was a fool to give battle in the first place.

In short, people understand a military unit as a rock, something that can hold back other rocks, and something that you can use to throw it at someone. An enlightened commandwe will know that military orginization and movement should be like water. Where ever the pan is tilted, the water will go. Wherever the Infantry is under attack, the calvery divisions will go. This coupled with a good intel system (The Empire uses Satilites, kinda hard to decieve them) guarentees the person on the defence and with this system a great victory.

It just occured to me that I omitted the offencive. With my system, its quite simple really. Massed armor can punch a hole in most lines, which would be swiftly followed by Infantry (at a run) whereopon the enemy will find themselves divided and under attack from 2 sides.

Im a tad tired, and I hope I have hit everything. Any more questions about my military system?

EDIT: I may have misinterpreted what Sharina was saying. The tanks, artillary, etc have all had their crews accounted for. I even posted crew size per model in the posting.

[ooc: guys, keep these discussions in the ooc thread at the very least. Otherwise, start a new thread to discuss concerns about military declarations, because half of what I've been reading for the past 5 pages have been military declarations or ic incantations about South America, with a rare and random blurb from somewhere else in the world... and here's one of these rare and random blurbs...]

The Qattar Project Ceremony will take place here!!!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501657

If you are on the official guest list, please post an entry. If you aren't on the list and want to be, and have a very good reason why you ought to be on that list, speak now and tell me. Expect something similar to the Manama incident, except with less pomp and more circumstance.

[ooc: guys, keep these discussions in the ooc thread at the very least. Otherwise, start a new thread to discuss concerns about military declarations, because half of what I've been reading for the past 5 pages have been military declarations or ic incantations about South America, with a rare and random blurb from somewhere else in the world... and here's one of these rare and random blurbs...]

The Qattar Project Ceremony will take place here!!!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501657

If you are on the official guest list, please post an entry. If you aren't on the list and want to be, and have a very good reason why you ought to be on that list, speak now and tell me. Expect something similar to the Manama incident, except with less pomp and more circumstance.

OCC: I know I'm sorry I started it and I plan to finish it. I have redirected my comments back to the OCC thread. I just posted a huge OCC comment about the military forces. 2 pages worth. You think your tired, and now for my last post of the night. Seeing Night turn into day-yeah!

Sharina makes it painfully clear to Great Romeo the following points.

"1. The convoy will be allowed to pass to Costa Rica, but WITHOUT the troop transports and the thousands (17,000) tanks.

2. Thousands (17,000) tanks and approximately 170,000 troops are not a peacekeeping force. It is an INVASION force. This threatens the very stability of America and we simply cannot tolerate that whatsoever.

3. We will not attack Great Romeo, nor consider it a part of the "Axis of Evil" that EATO is if the troops and tanks are returned to Eurasia.

4. Troops and tanks are not exactly a resupply effort. If it was just food and soup, Sharina would not object. However, thousands of tanks isn't exactly a humanitarian mission. It is a prelude to an invasion."

Secret IC:

The 25 Sharinan Virginia class subs begin a slow withdrawal from the Straits of Magellan and are sent to join the blockade of Costa Rica, where air cover and proximity to Sharinan lands would greatly boost the survivability of the subs.
OOC: How does Sharina have any idea that I have military equipment in the convoy's civilian cargo ships? It isn't very logical...

Great Romeo has 50,000 tanks and I'm not moaning about it even though he will most likely be my "enemy" very soon.
OOC: I don't. Yet. It's currently only around 25,000, which I can do easily thanks to the massive amount of foreign orders of my [other] military equipment, which generates a great deal of revenue in addition to my new reserves of oil.

OOC: How does Sharina have any idea that I have military equipment in the convoy's civilian cargo ships? It isn't very logical...

It's hard to hide loading 10,000+ tanks onto a convoy. Same goes for loading 170,000 troops. Can't exactly hide that either. Plus, the sheer amount of civilian ships looks very suspicious especially heading into a "Hot Zone" which could erupt into war any minute.

Besides, Sharina has spies in various nations just like the RL US does with the CIA. It'd be very hard to hide such massive movement of troops and tanks into ships from spies.

Conversely, I made no secret of my military mobilizations. Everybody picked that up (as well as they should). If you put a small number of tanks, like 100 tanks and maybe 1,000 - 2,000 soldiers onto the convoy, it'd be FAR LESS noticed or suspicious than 10,000+ tanks and 170,000 soldiers. In RL Iraq, the world would recongize the US's mobilization of 170,000+ troops even if the US tried to keep it hush-hush and quiet.

(moving this debate to OOC thread)

Encoded Contact:
To: UFMC
From: The Confederate States of America

You would be willing to turn the two states over to Confederate control? We will gladly name our price, however this deal can not in any way see us sway from our position of neutrality on this conflict.

We are willing to offer:

$450 Billion - (250 for Ohio, 200 for Michigan) - to be paid in installments of 50 Billion per year for the next 9 years.

As well as a pact of non-aggression between our nations. We will not support EATO, nor will we attack it.

The Confederate States of America, Foreign Office.

TO: Confederate States of America, Foreign Office
FR: United Federation of Military Command

We are willing to take you offer and we are turning it over to you as soon as we can to your Military Forces in the area. We are also signing a non-aggression pact between our nations.

Sharina makes it painfully clear to Great Romeo the following points.

"1. The convoy will be allowed to pass to Costa Rica, but WITHOUT the troop transports and the thousands (17,000) tanks.

2. Thousands (17,000) tanks and approximately 170,000 troops are not a peacekeeping force. It is an INVASION force. This threatens the very stability of America and we simply cannot tolerate that whatsoever.

3. We will not attack Great Romeo, nor consider it a part of the "Axis of Evil" that EATO is if the troops and tanks are returned to Eurasia.

4. Troops and tanks are not exactly a resupply effort. If it was just food and soup, Sharina would not object. However, thousands of tanks isn't exactly a humanitarian mission. It is a prelude to an invasion."

Great Romeo makes it painfully clear to Sharina the following points.

We are only traveling through international and Costa Rican waters. We could care less about "what you allow" us to do in waters that do not belong to your nation.
We have never stated we are sending a "peacekeeping" force; it is a resupply force. Moreover, it is NOT an invasion course and it does NOT threaten the stability of America. We say this because with this forces in place, Sharina would never think of invading Costa Rica and consequently destabilizing the region. We already would never even think of invading any lands with this force; they are merely there for defensive "mutually assured destruction" reasons.
We could care less about our position in the frivolous Sharinian nation categorization system.
Our resupply force is not there for an invasion; it is there to prevent an invasion. We have no interest in the capitalist pig territories of Guatemala and Honduras, or any other in region, for that matter.
We will attack if fired upon, and Sharina would be seen as the aggressor.

Secret IC:

As the fleet traveled past the Galápagos Islands enroute to Costa Rica, engineers began applying makeshift armor protection to the front of the battlecruisers and destroyers, to enable them to ram the blockade with no damage to themselves.

The following were conducting air patrols (in shifts, not all at once:

27 Su-47K (naval varient) Berkut fighters, flying at 59,000 ft., armed with Vympel R-77 medium range air-to-air missiles and Vympel R-73 short range air-to-air missiles
10 SU-25KM “Scorpion” (naval varient) attack aircraft armed with two Vympel R-73 short range air-to-air missiles and multiple AS-X-22 anti-shipping missiles
1 Yak-44 radar picket aircraft
20 Kamov Ka-25 anti-submarine warfare helicopters conducting anti-submarine patrols armed with VA-111 Shkval 2 torpedos

Lada class submarines were still conducting their scouting mission, while Akula-II class nuclear attack submarines positioned themselves in the frontal center of the convoy. All were armed with VA-111 Shkval 2 torpedos. They were the best trained and armed vessels in the entire navy.

OOC: The aircraft and submarines are all elite trained.

-SIC Military Movement & Action Bulliton-

-1st Croatian Battlegroup stationed in Italian Alps preped for campaign
-2ed battlegroup stationed in Uelen, confiscating boats, preped for campaign.
-3ed battlegroup withdrawn from Syrian Front, Places on weeks leave in Italy. Preparing for campaign.
-4th Battlegroup Reports that it has infiltrated guard system in Angola. Is ready for Invasion.
-Imperial Guardsmen still beseiging Athens. Hungry Citizens are being turned away.

-2000 nEUROn Fighters transfered to Uelen. Command Center being build Underground.

-Imperial Fleet has laid down fish nets around Athens, entrapping all fish from entering the Athenian harbor. Sub Nets down as well. Estimates range from severe starvation to possible cannibalism in order to survive in the city.

TO: Confederate States of America, Foreign Office
FR: United Federation of Military Command

We are willing to take you offer and we are turning it over to you as soon as we can to your Military Forces in the area. We are also signing a non-aggression pact between our nations.

Encoded Contact:
To: The United Federation of Military Command
From: The Confederate Foreign Office

We are very glad to have come to an agreement on this matter. We can begin to move troops into Ohio immediately, and into Michigan within the week.

To enable maximum security in these regions we would like to request a gradual takeover, whereby your forces do not leave until the Confederacy has assumed total control over the region. This is merely a precaution, given that we have reason to believe that the Technocracy does not approve of this action. We doubt they will take military action, but given the current situation in the americas, anything could happen.

We have signed a pact of Non Aggression with your nation, never will the UFMC and the CSA go to war.

Our thanks,

The Confederate Foreign Office.

ooc: Perhaps this could use it's own thread?

-SIC Military Movement & Action Bulliton-

-1st Croatian Battlegroup stationed in Italian Alps preped for campaign
-2ed battlegroup stationed in Uelen, confiscating boats, preped for campaign.
-3ed battlegroup withdrawn from Syrian Front, Places on weeks leave in Italy. Preparing for campaign.
-4th Battlegroup Reports that it has infiltrated guard system in Angola. Is ready for Invasion.
-Imperial Guardsmen still beseiging Athens. Hungry Citizens are being turned away.

-2000 nEUROn Fighters transfered to Uelen. Command Center being build Underground.

-Imperial Fleet has laid down fish nets around Athens, entrapping all fish from entering the Athenian harbor. Sub Nets down as well. Estimates range from severe starvation to possible cannibalism in order to survive in the city.

OOC:

Neuron Fighters don't exist as combat aircraft yet in 2006. They will be unveiled in 2010 - 2012. So you do not have these Neuron fighters until RL year 2010 - 2012 (unless that rule is changed in the future).

OOC:

Neuron Fighters don't exist as combat aircraft yet in 2006. They will be unveiled in 2010 - 2012. So you do not have these Neuron fighters until RL year 2010 - 2012 (unless that rule is changed in the future).

OOC: Its waaaaayyyyyy past 2006 E5 time.

Great Romeo makes it painfully clear to Sharina the following points.

We are only traveling through international and Costa Rican waters. We could care less about "what you allow" us to do in waters that do not belong to your nation.
We have never stated we are sending a "peacekeeping" force; it is a resupply force. Moreover, it is NOT an invasion course and it does NOT threaten the stability of America. We say this because with this forces in place, Sharina would never think of invading Costa Rica and consequently destabilizing the region. We already would never even think of invading any lands with this force; they are merely there for defensive "mutually assured destruction" reasons.
We could care less about our position in the frivolous Sharinian nation categorization system.
Our resupply force is not there for an invasion; it is there to prevent an invasion. We have no interest in the capitalist pig territories of Guatemala and Honduras, or any other in region, for that matter.
We will attack if fired upon, and Sharina would be seen as the aggressor.

Secret IC:

As the fleet traveled past the Galápagos Islands enroute to Costa Rica, engineers began applying makeshift armor protection to the front of the battlecruisers and destroyers, to enable them to ram the blockade with no damage to themselves.

The following were conducting air patrols (in shifts, not all at once:

27 Su-47K (naval varient) Berkut fighters, flying at 59,000 ft., armed with Vympel R-77 medium range air-to-air missiles and Vympel R-73 short range air-to-air missiles
10 SU-25KM “Scorpion” (naval varient) attack aircraft armed with two Vympel R-73 short range air-to-air missiles and multiple AS-X-22 anti-shipping missiles
1 Yak-44 radar picket aircraft
20 Kamov Ka-25 anti-submarine warfare helicopters conducting anti-submarine patrols armed with VA-111 Shkval 2 torpedos

Lada class submarines were still conducting their scouting mission, while Akula-II class nuclear attack submarines positioned themselves in the frontal center of the convoy. All were armed with VA-111 Shkval 2 torpedos. They were the best trained and armed vessels in the entire navy.

OOC: The aircraft and submarines are all elite trained.

Sharina flatly rejects Great Romeo's demands.

Sharina points out that the massive numbers of tanks could easily be used to slam into Panama and Colombia along with a Netherland and Dweladelfinian force. This tactical situation shall and will not be allowed.

In addition, Great Romeo is clearly threatening Sharinan interests in the Americas. If Great Romeo proceeds in their attempt to land troops and tanks within Costa Rica, it will be constituted as a declaration of war aganist Sharina and shall be responded to accordingly.

You claim "mutual destruction" with these tanks and troops. We laugh at that hollow threat as we are fully capable of inflicting far more destruction than you are able to. We do not seek to inflict destruction, but we shall bring destruction to those who actively seek it. We never have and never will be cowed by threats from any terrorist, nation, person, or entity. Once the dust settles, it will be Sharina and her allies who shall stand up proud amid the ruins of its enemies who seek to destroy stability and peace.

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OOC:

Making makeshift armor on the front hulls of your heavy ships while you are out at sea would be a moumentual and extremely difficult task. If it were done in drydock or even a regular naval yard, then it could be done so quickly and efficiently.

You simply don't have enough spare material on your ships to reinforce your hulls unless you tear off other ship components like guns, side + rear hull armor plating, interior metal, and so on. Plus this effort would take a lot of time and effort. Its not exactly a 1-day job, ya know.

Consquently if you do this, your ship's structure or strength will be diminished.

OOC:

Neuron Fighters don't exist as combat aircraft yet in 2006. They will be unveiled in 2010 - 2012. So you do not have these Neuron fighters until RL year 2010 - 2012 (unless that rule is changed in the future).

ooc: You are correct. Neuron fighters have not been comissioned yet as of 2006. There are, however, usable prototypes.

But regardless, due to the RP time rule, I have managed to complete them, and they are now being used by the empire.

I dare say that your complaints have more to do with the fact that you are about to attack my ally GR than an auctual protest/concern...

OOC: Its waaaaayyyyyy past 2006 E5 time.

Tech-wise, the time is frozen in 2006 (matches RL 2006 tech, then when we reach 2007 in RL, tech in Earth V goes to 2007 tech's).

RP-wise, the time continues as normally (years, decades, or even centuries).

ooc: You are correct. Neuron fighters have not been comissioned yet as of 2006. There are, however, usable prototypes.

But regardless, due to the RP time rule, I have managed to complete them, and they are now being used by the empire.

I dare say that your complaints have more to do with the fact that you are about to attack GR than an auctual protest/concern...

By the same token, I could easily say I built 10,000 Predator UCAV's or have SR-91 Auroras, have metalstorm guns, and so on.

I can destroy GR *very* easily, so I'm not complaining about that. I'm just raising the issue as several other players pointed out that I shouldn't have the Aurora aircraft (even though it supposedly existed during the 1990's) even though it was apparently prototypical in the same way the Neurons could.

Thus, it'd be only fair if I have Auroras if you have Neurons (same principle).

EDIT:

Failing Auroras, I should be able to field thousands of aircraft based off all these UCAV prototypes in here if Vineyard fields his Neurons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCAV

Again, same principle applies here.

ooc: Why shouldn't you? I dont recall myself protesting against your tech..

I mean, back during the 'Cold War' days, our two alliances competed against eachother, developing tech at a break-neck speed. My alliance had collapsed, making my nation the sole heir of all tech and projects developed during that era, and your nation was the home of the FOAM council/government! Rp-time wise, it would be within your rights to have such weapons.

And my reference to GR was because Im his ally, suggesting that you may not like my tech because im about to go to war with you if you attack him.

ooc: Why shouldn't you? I dont recall myself protesting against your tech..

I mean, back during the 'Cold War' days, our two alliances competed against eachother, developing tech at a break-neck speed. My alliance had collapsed, making my nation the sole heir of all tech and projects developed during that era, and your nation was the home of the FOAM council/government! Rp-time wise, it would be within your rights to have such weapons.

And my reference to GR was because Im his ally, suggesting that you may not like my tech because im about to go to war with you if you attack him.

OCC: I protested. Their was no proof that the Auroras existed or didn't exist. In other words, in my mind their make believe aircraft. Earth V is based on realism as much as possible and theirs no proof that the Auroras even exist let alone are operational.

To Vineyard- what exactly are these Neuron fighters you speak of? Do you have a link describing them?

BTW- you just stated they are in production. You built 2000 or so of them. That number would indicate they are in production. If you built prototypes you wouldn’t have more then say 10 for testing. Care to revise you statement?

ooc: Why shouldn't you? I dont recall myself protesting against your tech..

I mean, back during the 'Cold War' days, our two alliances competed against eachother, developing tech at a break-neck speed. My alliance had collapsed, making my nation the sole heir of all tech and projects developed during that era, and your nation was the home of the FOAM council/government! Rp-time wise, it would be within your rights to have such weapons.

And my reference to GR was because Im his ally, suggesting that you may not like my tech because im about to go to war with you if you attack him.

Ahh, but your nation kinda imploded while you weren't here for a while. The whole assasination, rogue generals, and all that stuff would have wreaked havoc with the military.

I'm not disputing your ability to have UFSR tech.

Mauiwowee built submarine carriers and Virgin Incursion built the Space Elevator in the Virgin Islands during the whole FOAM - UFSR thing, but we're not using those tech. I'd love to have submarine carriers and fighters (even though by rights I should have the ability to build them because of Mauiwowee) but I don't for the sake of realism.

OCC: I protested. Their was no proof that the Auroras existed or didn't exist. In other words, in my mind their make believe aircraft. Earth V is based on realism as much as possible and theirs no proof that the Auroras even exist let alone are operational.

To Vineyard- what exactly are these Neuron fighters you speak of? Do you have a link describing them?

BTW- you just stated they are in production. You built 2000 or so of them. That number would indicate they are in production. If you built prototypes you wouldn’t have more then say 10 for testing. Care to revise you statement?

Here, United Earthlings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Neuron

Ahh, but your nation kinda imploded while you weren't here for a while. The whole assasination, rogue generals, and all that stuff would have wreaked havoc with the military.

I'm not disputing your ability to have UFSR tech.

Mauiwowee built submarine carriers and Virgin Incursion built the Space Elevator in the Virgin Islands during the whole FOAM - UFSR thing, but we're not using those tech. I'd love to have submarine carriers and fighters (even though by rights I should have the ability to build them because of Mauiwowee) but I don't for the sake of realism.
ooc: Sure, it imploded. But that does not mean that the Rogue States would gleefully pick up research papers and burn them, or use them for kindling.

And yes, while Space Elevators and Submarine carriers would be truly a great thing to have, they are completely out of our time. But Neuron fighters on the otherhand exist, albeit in prototype form!

And the Military does not handle research or technological development, There is a Ministry for that :)

Here, United Earthlings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Neuron

Thanks, I looked it over and I think this sentence sums it up nicly.

And I quote- "This phase will be followed by the development and assembly phase, and by a first flight in 2011. It is planned that the 2-year flight-test program (2011-2013) will entail about 100 sorties, including the launch of a laser-guided bomb tentatively scheduled for 2012"

I'm sorry Vineyard, but this is 2006 tech not 2011 or 2012. That means no Neuron fighters. From my understand of the tech rule. Anything that exists in 2006 or to a reasonable degree could exist is allowed. So from my understand, by the way- note this is my understand and I'm sure if I got it wrong you all can correct me. Any future military equipment that will exist/be commissioned
in 2007 or 2008 can be used/designed/researched.

[OOC- Perhaps there should be some kind of thread made for this issue, but....

I say enough with all this new tech crap. I joined Earth V because of what I assumed was a guarantee we'd be using RL tech. Not stuff that could be tech. Not things that are under development. Real. Life. Technology. If it doesn't exist in the real world, it don't get used. This means the Auroras; this also means these Neurons.

I thought it was quite clear in the Sign-Up thread that only RL tech was to be used- okay, Sharina, I suppose you can have Montanas. They were designed way back in the past but not built. The same goes for weapons built in limited quantities, then pulled because of a changing world. But all this new stuff that either never has been verified to exist or doesn't exist, except in prototype stage? Go play on normal NS. We allow one new thing and pretty soon ETC cannons start creeping in, even more advanced planes, massive naval ships (superdreadnoughts? Because you could build them! Blech.), and other assorted crap I'm used to on NS come into Earth V.

Earth V was created to be real-world technology, real-world populations, and a somewhat real-world approach to everything that's going on. Yes, the budgetary adjustment thing changes some stuff, but technology always remained a constant. Until now. Unless TG6R says so, I'm ignoring forthright all technology that's not verifiably current time. No prototypes, no experimental technologies, and nothing rumored to exist. I hope the rest of Earth V does the same and keeps Earth V the RP I chose to join- because if this becomes mainstream NS-lite, I'm leaving.]

[OOC- Perhaps there should be some kind of thread made for this issue, but....

I say enough with all this new tech crap. I joined Earth V because of what I assumed was a guarantee we'd be using RL tech. Not stuff that could be tech. Not things that are under development. Real. Life. Technology. If it doesn't exist in the real world, it don't get used. This means the Auroras; this also means these Neurons.

I thought it was quite clear in the Sign-Up thread that only RL tech was to be used- okay, Sharina, I suppose you can have Montanas. They were designed way back in the past but not built. The same goes for weapons built in limited quantities, then pulled because of a changing world. But all this new stuff that either never has been verified to exist or doesn't exist, except in prototype stage? Go play on normal NS. We allow one new thing and pretty soon ETC cannons start creeping in, even more advanced planes, massive naval ships (superdreadnoughts? Because you could build them! Blech.), and other assorted crap I'm used to on NS come into Earth V.

Earth V was created to be real-world technology, real-world populations, and a somewhat real-world approach to everything that's going on. Yes, the budgetary adjustment thing changes some stuff, but technology always remained a constant. Until now. Unless TG6R says so, I'm ignoring forthright all technology that's not verifiably current time. No prototypes, no experimental technologies, and nothing rumored to exist. I hope the rest of Earth V does the same and keeps Earth V the RP I chose to join- because if this becomes mainstream NS-lite, I'm leaving.]

Couldn't have said it better myself, I think this sentence sums up my idea of Earth V. "Earth V was created to be real-world technology, real-world populations, and a somewhat real-world approach to everything that's going on."

And I plan to keep that real world alive. This is what makes Earth V unique and that's why I joined Earth V. I also agree with Samtonia that if this turns into another NS-lite world. Then I just go back to NS because they'll will be no difference. This is why Sharina I've been so hard on you with your military declaration. It was nothing personnally. Just some things in your declaration didn't seem to me like it was real-world technology as we know today, I am sorry for all the heartache I gave you for it. I was just trying to keep a unique RP alive. Again, I'm sorry for being so hard on you about it.

I do agree that Earth V shouldn't have NS-ified crap like Superdreads and metalstorm guns and 2010 - 2020 tech.

I deleted my Auroras from my military declarations a while ago after learning how impraticial or "questionable" they were. I was merely arguing for the principle- if Vineyard is to have Neurons, then what next? Other players claiming uber-planes or custom-built stuff just like in NS to counter Vineyard's Neurons? Then Vineyard builds something to counter the anti-Neuron plane, and the cycle continues.

[OOC- Perhaps there should be some kind of thread made for this issue, but....

I say enough with all this new tech crap. I joined Earth V because of what I assumed was a guarantee we'd be using RL tech. Not stuff that could be tech. Not things that are under development. Real. Life.
Unless TG6R says so, I'm ignoring forthright all technology that's not verifiably current time. No prototypes, no experimental technologies, and nothing rumored to exist. I hope the rest of Earth V does the same and keeps Earth V the RP I chose to join- because if this becomes mainstream NS-lite, I'm leaving.]
OOC: Very well said, Samtonia. I agree with you 100%.

ooc: As do I, well put Samtonia

ooc: The Neurons are nothing special. Designed like a 'Blackbird' Stealth Bomber, they are remote controled... Anyone ever hear of UAVs? Unmanned Spy planes? Only, These are hardly your average UAV. This is a UAV with weapons. Also, these planes were designed back in 2003. Thats 2003 technology right there. I believe someone mentioned that Sharina should be able to build "Insert_Name_of_Thing_Here" because they have been designed in the past... but Neurons, which were designed in 2003 we have a problem with. This all exists IRL, I dont see why I can't have these... But, never the less, unless TG6R says they are valid, I will forfit my claims to these.


On another note, there are no such things as armed satilites, Sharina. I believe you made a SIC post regarding arming a satilite to take out GR's satilites. While we are perfectly capable of doing so IRL, a satilite has yet to be armed & deploied. So its not RL tech. See the problem?


Lets move these arguments to the ooc thread, its cluttering up IC.

Encoded Contact:
To: The United Federation of Military Command
From: The Confederate Foreign Office

We are very glad to have come to an agreement on this matter. We can begin to move troops into Ohio immediately, and into Michigan within the week.

To enable maximum security in these regions we would like to request a gradual takeover, whereby your forces do not leave until the Confederacy has assumed total control over the region. This is merely a precaution, given that we have reason to believe that the Technocracy does not approve of this action. We doubt they will take military action, but given the current situation in the americas, anything could happen.

We have signed a pact of Non Aggression with your nation, never will the UFMC and the CSA go to war.

Our thanks,

The Confederate Foreign Office.

ooc: Perhaps this could use it's own thread?

TO: The Confederate Foreign Office
FR: The United Federation of Military Command

We are willing to keep our forces in place and start working with your military as well. Have your military commander for the region near Michigan and Ohio get ahold of my military commanders in the region which is in Grand Rapids Michigan. The Military Commander is General James Fredrick Jones. He will help take care of anything that you would done. We also would like to know if we can use a port of your's to transport our military forces from the area? Thank you very much.