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OOC Planning Thread-- Me VS. Kraven (ATTN: Allies of Kraven or me) - Page 6

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The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 21:24
Northford: Im still using Nanakorais Sattelites, the ones that weren't Destroyed, Im sure a facility that size will be easily picked up, I was considering either Bombing it, or sending in some Capitol Police via Assault VTOLS
Northford
17-04-2006, 21:36
As for Bombing it.. they have AA defences built into them.. plus I've got some of pythogria's men there...

In case your interested, I posted on DMG's storefront exactly what I'm RPing with, in terms of arms.... like I said.... ICly, you don't know its a hospitall.. all it could be to you is a warehouse, or a ski resort.... essentially, your satalites are just giving you a picture of a load of hut's and a couple of airstrips.

I can't see anyone bombing something that could be a ski resort when they've got a massive land battle (not to mention a sea battle) to sort out LOL...

ICly, you've gotta wait at least until I get my troops there (which have military helicopters, ect (all noticeable) before you do something. If you don't, you risk crossing the OOC/IC barrier, i.e using what we talk about OOC in an IC context.

Also, assuming you've only got a *couple* of satalites left... why would you be scanning mountains with your precious satalites when you have battles waging instead? Militarily it does not make sense....

I'll accept you find me, but not until I give reason to be *found* i.e having (large) military equipment visible from the sky.
Northford
17-04-2006, 21:45
Here's what I'm bringing in...


1000 Stunt 12 WASP's

1000 Viper R90's

50 Strike Magnum Sniper Rifle

400 MP-5N Heckler and Koch 9mm Submachine Gun

500 XM8 rifle in Compact (SMG / PDW) configuration

500 XM8 rifle in "sharpshooter" (parasniper) configuration.

200 Ghillie Suit

1000 Uniform and Armor

1000 Equipment

20 Remington 870MCS in "Breeching weapon" configuration

10 M136 AT4

10x Rigid-hull Inflatable Boat

5 Mark V

5 Zenith X-20

10 UH-60 Blackhawk

25 Elusion Class Vehicle

400 Legionnaire S-15

20 Sentinel SAM Launcher

10 M5 Tank Buster

50 M/A-206 Machine Guns


===========================


Essentially, that outfit's light infantry with anti-armour, anti-air (Those sentinals are actual emplacements according to DMG) and the ability to snipe... There's 5 Helicopter gunships there are well.. and a load of blackhawk's for transport... as well as a few "HUMVEE" type cars/vehicles.
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 21:48
As for Bombing it.. they have AA defences built into them.. plus I've got some of pythogria's men there...

In case your interested, I posted on DMG's storefront exactly what I'm RPing with, in terms of arms.... like I said.... ICly, you don't know its a hospitall.. all it could be to you is a warehouse, or a ski resort.... essentially, your satalites are just giving you a picture of a load of hut's and a couple of airstrips.

I can't see anyone bombing something that could be a ski resort when they've got a massive land battle (not to mention a sea battle) to sort out LOL...

ICly, you've gotta wait at least until I get my troops there (which have military helicopters, ect (all noticeable) before you do something. If you don't, you risk crossing the OOC/IC barrier, i.e using what we talk about OOC in an IC context.

Also, assuming you've only got a *couple* of satalites left... why would you be scanning mountains with your precious satalites when you have battles waging instead? Militarily it does not make sense....

I'll accept you find me, but not until I give reason to be *found* i.e having (large) military equipment visible from the sky.


Its alright, but the reason why I am searching the Mountains if for a way to get over or through them, im planning ahead, and while i may have a massive battle raging, i don't need to watch it all the time, I have plenty of other Eyes in the skies, and data from the ground forces...
Nakanaori
17-04-2006, 22:00
GRRR you taking my satellites! :p
it seems as if i'm helping u more than pythogria. lol.

anyway, i seem to be getting ignored.
i'm smoking Whyathica's ships and blinding his troops. it's up but no one is responding. ehh... i guess i take no more losses in that operation.
Northford
17-04-2006, 22:01
Thats a fair point...

How about we wait until I get my troops there, and have an *urban* RP?

i.e

You try bombers, but the emplacements I got of DMG ensure you have to fall back, so you land capitol police, and we have a big "fuck-up battle"...

I don't really care what the outcome of it is... but I think it would be cool to RP it all out properly...

If it turns out my troops manage to defeat your police, we say they disabled the Air emplacements so you bomb again, and this time turn my hospital into a beach....

And if it turns your capitol police start to get the upper hand, I fall back, taking with me, into the mountains, whats left of my men, with a few walking wounded.

You may be wondering why I'm talking bout this... buh its starting to seem to me people have stopped writing this RP for the sake of RPing, but instead, just to **win** and beat the *mighty kraven*.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:01
GRRR you taking my satellites! :p
it seems as if i'm helping u more than pythogria. lol.

anyway, i seem to be getting ignored.
i'm smoking Whyathica's ships and blinding his troops. it's up but no one is responding. ehh... i guess i take no more losses in that operation.

Hey, I'll let you use my sattelites.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:02
You may be wondering why I'm talking bout this... buh its starting to seem to me people have stopped writing this RP for the sake of RPing, but instead, just to **win** and beat the *mighty kraven*.

Sadly that does seem true.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:04
GRRR you taking my satellites! :p
it seems as if i'm helping u more than pythogria. lol.

anyway, i seem to be getting ignored.
i'm smoking Whyathica's ships and blinding his troops. it's up but no one is responding. ehh... i guess i take no more losses in that operation.
I like the second portion of that...same thing happened to Spit. I can read and understand his posts...
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:06
Thats a fair point...

How about we wait until I get my troops there, and have an *urban* RP?

i.e

You try bombers, but the emplacements I got of DMG ensure you have to fall back, so you land capitol police, and we have a big "fuck-up battle"...

I don't really care what the outcome of it is... but I think it would be cool to RP it all out properly...

If it turns out my troops manage to defeat your police, we say they disabled the Air emplacements so you bomb again, and this time turn my hospital into a beach....

And if it turns your capitol police start to get the upper hand, I fall back, taking with me, into the mountains, whats left of my men, with a few walking wounded.

You may be wondering why I'm talking bout this... buh its starting to seem to me people have stopped writing this RP for the sake of RPing, but instead, just to **win** and beat the *mighty kraven*.


Yes Ive noticed, its nice to see some people are still here for the story line, I'll leave it open for now, but a facility, even a ski resort will attract attention from Kraven, it will serve as a defensive position, but Kraven generaly destroys stuff that it doesn't deem as important, and seeing as Kraven doesn't have a booming tourist industry, then its more than likely going to level a Ski Resort seeing it as dead weight, rather than a valuable asset, such as a Mine, also another reason why Kraven will pay more attention to this facility in the mountains, it could be a mine, so Kraven will want to take and hold it before Pythogria and Co decide to destroy it.
Northford
17-04-2006, 22:07
Sadly that does seem true.

Hmm, maybe, but I'm new to this game, so I really don't care who Kraven is..for me, beating/losing against him really has no attached connotations
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:09
Hmm, maybe, but I'm new to this game, so I really don't care who Kraven is..for me, beating/losing against him really has no attached connotations

Except losing an ally...

(Oh, actually, I just thought of something.

I could survive if Kraven wins.

You see, in a previous thread, I built a moon colony. It's very small, very expensive, and actually very, VERY difficult to maintain and all, but it DOES hold 200 people.)
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:10
Except losing an ally...

(Oh, actually, I just thought of something.

I could survive if Kraven wins.

You see, in a previous thread, I built a moon colony. It's very small, very expensive, and actually very, VERY difficult to maintain and all, but it DOES hold 200 people.)
Or you could simply RP a follow-up of guerilla warfare...see what happened with Frozopia.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:11
Hmm, maybe, but I'm new to this game, so I really don't care who Kraven is..for me, beating/losing against him really has no attached connotations

What is the downside? The world plunges into total darkness, that's the downside.

However, the point of an RP is having fun, and winning in a war RP is second to that.
Northford
17-04-2006, 22:16
What is the downside? The world plunges into total darkness, that's the downside.

However, the point of an RP is having fun, and winning in a war RP is second to that.

hehe, yea thats true... after all "We can't let evil kraven win again"

As for your point about the RP's.. yea, fun is the most important thing!
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:16
Or you could simply RP a follow-up of guerilla warfare...see what happened with Frozopia.

That works too.
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:18
most people fear Kraven because of what I do to the nation once I win, turning it into either a Slave State or a deserted waste land with nothing left alive, the earth brown and bare, no minerals left, the majority of the population serving in Corporate Mining Complexes or giving birth to Capitol Police, its not just about winning its about your nations survivial, we don't just Occupy... We Consume....
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:20
What is the downside? The world plunges into total darkness, that's the downside.

However, the point of an RP is having fun, and winning in a war RP is second to that.
So true...
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:20
Pythogria, you still have a chance to surrender before I pull a repeat on the rest of your cities (or worse for you, pull out the Merethyn gunships). :)

Now that I've run everything not Axis Nova off that island, I can just use it to resupply all of Kraven's forces and continually ship more troops and vehicles and equipment in, and with your air force currently getting the snot thrashed out of it, you won't be able to do much about it ;)
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:22
Pythogria, you still have a chance to surrender before I pull a repeat on the rest of your cities (or worse for you, pull out the Merethyn gunships). :)

Now that I've run everything not Axis Nova off that island, I can just use it to resupply all of Kraven's forces and continually ship more troops and vehicles and equipment in, and with your air force currently getting the snot thrashed out of it, you won't be able to do much about it ;)


Pythogria: Yes, I will give you an Opportunity to Surrender, or engage in Diplomatic Talks, its up to you, Kraven can be negotiated with, just people don't try... (I think its after what happened at the last diplomatic talks, where I tried to Kill all the delegates when they wouldn't sign my treaty...)
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:22
Pythogria, you still have a chance to surrender before I pull a repeat on the rest of your cities (or worse for you, pull out the Merethyn gunships). :)

Now that I've run everything not Axis Nova off that island, I can just use it to resupply all of Kraven's forces and continually ship more troops and vehicles and equipment in, and with your air force currently getting the snot thrashed out of it, you won't be able to do much about it ;)

Hm... you know... I'll have to blitz that place.

With my ICBMs.

All of them.

Just not the nuclear ones. All 2,500 of my fuel air bombs.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:24
Pythogria: Yes, I will give you an Opportunity to Surrender, or engage in Diplomatic Talks, its up to you, Kraven can be negotiated with, just people don't try... (I think its after what happened at the last diplomatic talks, where I tried to Kill all the delegates when they wouldn't sign my treaty...)

As long as the contract isn't "give us slaves" and it's more "we stay away from you, you stay away from us", I'm all for it.
Northford
17-04-2006, 22:25
Lol, I've read the factbook.. I know what you do to places you take over...
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:25
Hm... you know... I'll have to blitz that place.

With my ICBMs.

All of them.

Just not the nuclear ones. All 2,500 of my fuel air bombs.
I'd just play Total War if I were you, Pyth...let nothing go to waste...
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:26
Hm... you know... I'll have to blitz that place.

With my ICBMs.

All of them.

Just not the nuclear ones. All 2,500 of my fuel air bombs.

Considering some of the equipment I've hauled along are the ground model of Agni FELs, this would be a bad idea :)
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:26
I have a feeling Pyth would pull what Belka did in the Belkan War. If you've never played Ace Combat 5 (or AC Zero), Belka set off seven nuclear ICBMs inside their own borders to halt the advance of the enemy forces and ensure that whatever the enemy did capture couldn't be used by them. Anyone would probably do that as a desperate last hurrah.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:27
I'd just play Total War if I were you, Pyth...let nothing go to waste...

So you're saying I should use everything I've got?
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:27
I have a feeling Pyth would pull what Belka did in the Belkan War. If you've never played Ace Combat 5 (or AC Zero), Belka set off seven nuclear ICBMs inside their own borders to halt the advance of the enemy forces and ensure that whatever the enemy did capture couldn't be used by them. Anyone would probably do that as a desperate last hurrah.

Same thing here.

Except mine would be total, plate-glass-earth policy.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:28
So you're saying I should use everything I've got?
And then some. Give your Civilians weapons like the Japanese in WW2 did...if I were invaded, I would stop at nothing to repulse the enemy
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:29
And then some. Give your Civilians weapons like the Japanese in WW2 did...if I were invaded, I would stop at nothing to repulse the enemy

Well, that's what Gria had did.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:30
Well, that's what Gria had did.
Hey, can't hurt to give all you've got, then go Scorched-Earth like the Russians, or turn your land into fire...
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:30
Hey, can't hurt to give all you've got, then go Scorched-Earth like the Russians, or turn your land into fire...

Then that will be my policy. Scorched Earth.
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:31
Gria didn't fare so well with the "arm the civvies" option.

Also, if there's any scorching, I'll be the one to do it :)
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:32
hahah, Scorched earth thats a good one, What do you think Kraven is going to do? move into a nice Penthouse suite.... :D

Nope! It will level just about everything, then strip mine your nation, there will be nothing left of it lol! :D Scorched earth Helps! :D
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:32
Gria didn't fare so well with the "arm the civvies" option.
But he pulled out of Gria...the thing to do is not give ground. If you're decimated, then so be it. Kill as many of the enemy as possible, then you can rally your troops around their slaughter. And if you get any enemy POWs...then you can have real motivation...
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:33
hahah, Scorched earth thats a good one, What do you think Kraven is going to do? move into a nice Penthouse suite.... :D

Nope! It will level just about everything, then strip mine your nation, there will be nothing left of it lol! :D Scorched earth Helps! :D

Dibs on the southern cities!
Spit break
17-04-2006, 22:34
hey guys am back from school what did i miss?
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:35
hey guys am back from school what did i miss?

Everything.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:35
hahah, Scorched earth thats a good one, What do you think Kraven is going to do? move into a nice Penthouse suite.... :D

Nope! It will level just about everything, then strip mine your nation, there will be nothing left of it lol! :D Scorched earth Helps! :D

I don't care if your Sadukar are 2050, they need food.
Northford
17-04-2006, 22:35
Scortched earth?

You mean to say that as soon as I get my troops to Pythogria, I have to evac them again because you decide that you can't be bothered to fight?

hehe, just kidding....

Hmm, remember to leave some Chem/Biological contamination around, make it harder for someone to take it over.... after all, no-one likes wearing an NBC suit 24/7
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:36
Scortched earth?

You mean to say that as soon as I get my troops to Pythogria, I have to evac them again because you decide that you can't be bothered to fight?

hehe, just kidding....

Hmm, remember to leave some Chem/Biological contamination around, make it harder for someone to take it over.... after all, no-one likes wearing an NBC suit 24/7

Still, I'm about to try negotiating with Kraven.
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:37
I don't care if your Sadukar are 2050, they need food.

Erm.... No, they don't they are Cyborgs, what flesh they have and organs are sustained with Protein packs that inject required minerals and nutrients, a Sardaukar never has to eat, neither do Capitol Police their nutrient intake works in very much the same manner...
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:38
I don't care if your Sadukar are 2050, they need food.
Yeah, and also, I was kinda reffering to glassing the place, meaning there'd be nothing to strip mine...
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:38
Scortched earth?

You mean to say that as soon as I get my troops to Pythogria, I have to evac them again because you decide that you can't be bothered to fight?

hehe, just kidding....

Hmm, remember to leave some Chem/Biological contamination around, make it harder for someone to take it over.... after all, no-one likes wearing an NBC suit 24/7

Capitol Police where NBC's 24/7 in fact it is very rare to see one not wearing a gas mask
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:39
Yeah, and also, I was kinda reffering to glassing the place, meaning there'd be nothing to strip mine...

Well, I wanted to avoid nuclear...
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:39
hahah, Scorched earth thats a good one, What do you think Kraven is going to do? move into a nice Penthouse suite.... :D

Nope! It will level just about everything, then strip mine your nation, there will be nothing left of it lol! :D Scorched earth Helps! :D

It'll be a helluva a lot harder to get at those minerals if Pythogria becomes the biggest plate glass window on Earth...
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:39
Erm.... No, they don't they are Cyborgs, what flesh they have and organs are sustained with Protein packs that inject required minerals and nutrients, a Sardaukar never has to eat, neither do Capitol Police their nutrient intake works in very much the same manner...

Not every soldier is a Capitol Policeman.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:40
Well, I wanted to avoid nuclear...
Comparitively, it's survival vs. utter death...
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:40
It'll be a helluva a lot harder to get at those minerals if Pythogria becomes the biggest plate glass window on Earth...

He's right.
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:40
It'll be a helluva a lot harder to get at those minerals if Pythogria becomes the biggest plate glass window on Earth...


True, but if it comes to that, then we will probably leave it as it is
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:40
Comparitively, it's survival vs. utter death...

Go Nuclear.
Northford
17-04-2006, 22:41
But, your whole population isn't made up of capital troopers..........
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:41
It's hard to go nuclear when your missiles have just all launched themselves into the underside of the silo doors >.>;
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:41
Not every soldier is a Capitol Policeman.


No, we have Kreigsmarines, but I don't need to take supplies from your country, I don't need anything from your country other than its resources to keep the war machine turning...
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:42
It's hard to go nuclear when your missiles have just all launched themselves into the underside of the silo doors >.>;
Then you open the silo doors...or you have someone else fire nukes. Someone like me...
Spit break
17-04-2006, 22:42
can some one bring me up to speed?
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:42
True, but if it comes to that, then we will probably leave it as it is

Here, Kraven, I thought this would be a bit risky, and I'd most likely be very damaged after, but...

With Whyatica taking the south...

And Axis nova Gria...

And you Icica...

And all that...

I'd really like to have diplomacy, and basically have me RP fear of you for the next very very long time if you accept. Does that sound good?
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:43
Then you open the silo doors...or you have someone else fire nukes. Someone like me...

Or Franberry.
Spit break
17-04-2006, 22:45
Or Franberry.
i thought no WMD or did that change?
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:45
Well, generally there are two types of Kraven conquests.

1) Resource collection zone. This is where Kraven strips everything.

2) Slave state. Basically, your industry and military fully support Kraven's efforts of conquest, and Kraven gets to put military bases and so forth in your country.

Option 2 is still pretty harsh, but it beats having your population become exterminated and the very ground vacuumed up and taken away to get at all the useful resources.

Axis Nova is a special case; basically, I helped him when he was invaded by AMF, and his AI escaped via satellite links to Axis Nova's version of Area 51, and since then Father has covertly been infiltrating my military and government via the neural implants used as part of my cyborg program.

As such, it's not obvious to Axis Nova's general population that Kraven has control.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:46
Well, generally there are two types of Kraven conquests.

1) Resource collection zone. This is where Kraven strips everything.

2) Slave state. Basically, your industry and military fully support Kraven's efforts of conquest, and Kraven gets to put military bases and so forth in your country.

Option 2 is still pretty harsh, but it beats having your population become exterminated and the very ground vacuumed up and taken away to get at all the useful resources.

Well, if the war becomes hopeless, I will simply blow you all to heck. Nuclear-ly.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:47
i thought no WMD or did that change?

No WMD, but I reserve the right to the Plate-Glass-Earth policy if the war is utterly hopeless.
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:47
Well, if the war becomes hopeless, I will simply blow you all to heck. Nuclear-ly.

You may have missed the post where Father just had all your ICBMs launch themselves while the silo doors were still shut >.>;
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:47
Well, if the war becomes hopeless, I will simply blow you all to heck. Nuclear-ly.
Yeah, just throw in a couple Thorium bombs, and "boom"-glass country...
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:48
No WMD, but I reserve the right to the Plate-Glass-Earth policy if the war is utterly hopeless.


I believe I did hear someplace that they're throwing nukes around in Kahanistan, so this may even turn into a global nuclear holocaust.
Spit break
17-04-2006, 22:48
No WMD, but I reserve the right to the Plate-Glass-Earth policy if the war is utterly hopeless.
you can count on my ion cannons
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:48
You may have missed the post where Father just had all your ICBMs launch themselves while the silo doors were still shut >.>;

I ignore that, as it's a godmod.
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:48
*blesses having spent his money on a ridiculously effective SDI system instead of strategic nuclear weapons*

Edit: If you really have an objection to Father doing the silo doors thing then I'll edit it to have my SDI system whack 'em instead.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:49
I ignore that, as it's a godmod.
Agreed. That's basically saying that Pythogria can't do anything anymore, in which case...there's no point to an RP.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:49
*blesses having spent his money on a ridiculously effective SDI system instead of strategic nuclear weapons*

You can't stop 2,500 nuclear bombs plus god-knows-how-many fro mother areas.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:49
*blesses having spent his money on a ridiculously effective SDI system instead of strategic nuclear weapons*

*Also thanks God Excalibur will be in place in the next few days.*
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:50
Agreed. That's basically saying that Pythogria can't do anything anymore, in which case...there's no point to an RP.

Good to know I have support. Thanks!
Spit break
17-04-2006, 22:50
i agree with AB its a GM
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:50
Agreed. That's basically saying that Pythogria can't do anything anymore, in which case...there's no point to an RP.

Third'd!

EDIT: Fourth'd!
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:50
You can't stop 2,500 nuclear bombs plus god-knows-how-many fro mother areas.

If you hit that island with 2,500 ICBMs, your capital will be the recipent of a chunk of rock about 500 meters in diameter. Let's not go there, shall we? Nukes just ruin RPs.

edit: And yeah, actually, I could. My SDI system's effectiveness is a matter of record-- it consists of multiple laser sats, interceptor missiles, Brilliant Pebble systems, bomb-pumped X-ray lasers, et cetera.

2,500 ICBMs is not all that many.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:51
If you hit that island with 2,500 ICBMs, your capital will be the recipent of a chunk of rock about 500 meters in diameter. Let's not go there, shall we? Nukes just ruin RPs.

Well, if the war is UTTERLY hopeless, that's what I will be using. I don't plan to use it casually or when on the attack.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:52
If you hit that island with 2,500 ICBMs, your capital will be the recipent of a chunk of rock about 500 meters in diameter. Let's not go there, shall we? Nukes just ruin RPs.

Mass drivers? I'm pretty sure those aren't legal in early PMT.

Then again, I knew this would eventually turn into a tech wank war.
The Kraven Corporation
17-04-2006, 22:53
Ignore the Father invading your ICBM's it wasn't endorsed by me.
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:53
Well, if the war is UTTERLY hopeless, that's what I will be using. I don't plan to use it casually or when on the attack.

You just launched ICBMs at the island that had Gria on it.

My SDI people have no way to tell what kind of warhead an ICBM has, so they'll just think they're nukes.
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:54
Mass drivers? I'm pretty sure those aren't legal in early PMT.

Then again, I knew this would eventually turn into a tech wank war.

Who said anything about mass drivers? I'd just toss a big rock into the atmosphere and let gravity do the rest.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:54
Mass drivers? I'm pretty sure those aren't legal in early PMT.

Then again, I knew this would eventually turn into a tech wank war.
Yeah...lasers aren't all that practical weapons in the 2015-2030 range, which is where most of us are. They'd still be fairly developmental.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:55
Who said anything about mass drivers? I'd just toss a big rock into the atmosphere and let gravity do the rest.

Well when you say huge rock I assume an asteroid and a mass driver. :p
Spit break
17-04-2006, 22:57
i agree with the rest its kinda FTish
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:57
You just launched ICBMs at the island that had Gria on it.

My SDI people have no way to tell what kind of warhead an ICBM has, so they'll just think they're nukes.

Actually, there's a big difference between a nuclear and fuel air bomb explosion.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:57
Ignore the Father invading your ICBM's it wasn't endorsed by me.

Understood.
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:58
Let's not start with accusations of tech wank, now, shall we? I don't think I need to mention Pythogria's magical naval fleets which a nation his size couldn't possibly support, or his radars that can somehow penetrate my state of the art stealth technology on my UAVs, or him being able to refit giant numbers of missiles with entirely new warheads that'd need to be designed from scratch in only a few hours...

XP
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 22:59
Actually, there's a big difference between a nuclear and fuel air bomb explosion.

All my people would see are ICBMs launching, and would assume the obvious.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 22:59
Let's not start with accusations of tech wank, now, shall we? I don't think I need to mention Pythogria's magical naval fleets which a nation his size couldn't possibly support, or his radars that can somehow penetrate my state of the art stealth technology on my UAVs, or him being able to refit giant numbers of missiles with entirely new warheads that'd need to be designed from scratch in only a few hours...

XP

It's easy to put a new warhead in a missile.

And it's kind of understandable a nation would INCREASE IT'S MILITARY BUDGET when being INVADED by KRAVEN.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 22:59
Let's not start with accusations of tech wank, now, shall we? I don't think I need to mention Pythogria's magical naval fleets which a nation his size couldn't possibly support, or his radars that can somehow penetrate my state of the art stealth technology on my UAVs, or him being able to refit giant numbers of missiles with entirely new warheads that'd need to be designed from scratch in only a few hours...

XP

I'm not accusing anyone of tech wanking. I'm just stating that's what it is starting to become...
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 22:59
Let's not start with accusations of tech wank, now, shall we? I don't think I need to mention Pythogria's magical naval fleets which a nation his size couldn't possibly support, or his radars that can somehow penetrate my state of the art stealth technology on my UAVs, or him being able to refit giant numbers of missiles with entirely new warheads that'd need to be designed from scratch in only a few hours...

XP
Um, your stealth isn't invincible...any stealth can be penetrated. It just take a bit of thinking how. There is no perfect stealth. And that AAMs and SAMs can't penetrate your supposedly uber-airships? Sure they can. You can find weakness or load missiles with all sorts of payloads.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:00
It's easy to put a new warhead in a missile.

And it's kind of understandable a nation would INCREASE IT'S MILITARY BUDGET when being INVADED by KRAVEN.

Yes, but you can't build that many ships and support them in a few days, even a few months.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:00
All my people would see are ICBMs launching, and would assume the obvious.

OK, everyone, this is rapidly turning hopeless... Unless I have a chance at surviving, I really do not want to RP my nation's utter and entire death...
Spit break
17-04-2006, 23:00
I'm not accusing anyone of tech wanking. I'm just stating that's what it is starting to become...
agree'ed take you stuff down to the parrels of PMT reality
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 23:01
It's easy to put a new warhead in a missile.

And it's kind of understandable a nation would INCREASE IT'S MILITARY BUDGET when being INVADED by KRAVEN.

This doesn't make new ships build any faster, or get more troops and supplies onto the front lines faster, or build up the logistics network to support them.

I propose we just diplomatically end this, because to be honest this entire RP is a horrible train wreck (even before I came in). A 33-page OOC thread makes this kind of obvious and I want to move on to better and juicier targets. -_-*

Just retract the ICBMs launching and I'll delete my post about Father.

edit: Spit Break, you use ZAFT tech, so you're not really one to talk ;)
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:03
This doesn't make new ships build any faster, or get more troops and supplies onto the front lines faster, or build up the logistics network to support them.

I propose we just diplomatically end this, because to be honest this entire RP is a horrible train wreck (even before I came in). A 33-page OOC thread makes this kind of obvious and I want to move on to better and juicier targets. -_-*

Just retract the ICBMs launching and I'll delete my post about Father.

edit: Spit Break, you use ZAFT tech, so you're not really one to talk ;)

Yes, let's just say this never happened.
Spit break
17-04-2006, 23:05
edit: Spit Break, you use ZAFT tech, so you're not really one to talk ;)
yes but i edited my tech so that it conforms to PMT tech
Questers
17-04-2006, 23:17
OK, everyone, this is rapidly turning hopeless... Unless I have a chance at surviving, I really do not want to RP my nation's utter and entire death...

Then really it was a silly idea to start a war with Kraven, wasn't it?
Spit break
17-04-2006, 23:20
Then really it was a silly idea to start a war with Kraven, wasn't it?
its because people on kravens side are god moding
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:25
its because people on kravens side are god moding

No... Not all of them, at least.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:26
Then really it was a silly idea to start a war with Kraven, wasn't it?

The PLAN was:

1. Kraven cell appears in Icica.

2. I gather support.

3. Battle up there.

4. Someone wins.

5. If he does, we hold him off, and eventually take the city (perhaps this could take a VERY, VERY long time.)

6. We invade his homeland. Whether or not we win? It's up in the air.

This plan hasn't been followed. And I would've expected theat Axis Nova wouldn't have invincible aircraft of doom.
Spit break
17-04-2006, 23:26
No... Not all of them, at least.
i count 2
Axis Nova
17-04-2006, 23:28
The PLAN was:

1. Kraven cell appears in Icica.

2. I gather support.

3. Battle up there.

4. Someone wins.

5. If he does, we hold him off, and eventually take the city (perhaps this could take a VERY, VERY long time.)

6. We invade his homeland. Whether or not we win? It's up in the air.

This plan hasn't been followed. And I would've expected theat Axis Nova wouldn't have invincible aircraft of doom.

Not invinicible, you just need to be creative.

Kahanistan managed a decent kill count against them when AMF and me invaded him, and he was using Soviet-era technology.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:29
Not invinicible, you just need to be creative.

Kahanistan managed a decent kill count against them when AMF and me invaded him, and he was using Soviet-era technology.

How so?
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 23:30
Not invinicible, you just need to be creative.

Kahanistan managed a decent kill count against them when AMF and me invaded him, and he was using Soviet-era technology.
You pretty much made them invincible. We apparently can't see through your stealth. Your massive airships can move the speed of a civilian jetliner. Anti-air weapons are ineffective. They're too fast for sattelite weaponry. etc...
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:31
OK, who wants to simply say this never happened and never speak of this again?
Edoniakistanbabweagua
17-04-2006, 23:32
You pretty much made them invincible. We apparently can't see through your stealth. Your massive airships can move the speed of a civilian jetliner. Anti-air weapons are ineffective. They're too fast for sattelite weaponry. etc...

EMP weaponary? Suicide planes? Maybe we should try Barney again...:)
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 23:32
OK, who wants to simply say this never happened and never speak of this again?
You'd have to ask Kraven...meh, it doesn't overall effect me all that much.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:32
You pretty much made them invincible. We apparently can't see through your stealth. Your massive airships can move the speed of a civilian jetliner. Anti-air weapons are ineffective. They're too fast for sattelite weaponry. etc...

Your satellite weapons have all those FEL's or whatever the hell they are... (although I believe I have found an effective defense against them...)
Spit break
17-04-2006, 23:33
i agree with that to much God moding on Axis and one other person's side
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:33
OK, who wants to simply say this never happened and never speak of this again?

Not just yet, Pyth. Gimme a sec to do something.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 23:33
Your satellite weapons have all those FEL's or whatever the hell they are... (although I believe I have found an effective defense against them...)
Actually I don't have sattelite guns, that was Pyth. Though I like the Barney idea...
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:33
Not just yet, Pyth. Gimme a sec to do something.

OK.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:34
Actually I don't have sattelite guns, that was Pyth. Though I like the Barney idea...

No, I'm talking to Axis Nova.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
17-04-2006, 23:34
Actually I don't have sattelite guns, that was Pyth. Though I like the Barney idea...

MWAHAHAHAHA!!

I honestly think Teletubbies would be worse.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:35
Pyth, check TGs.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 23:36
MWAHAHAHAHA!!

I honestly think Teletubbies would be worse.
Ahhh!!! no!!! Not Tinky-Winky!!

And my bad, Cravan...
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:37
Pyth, check TGs.

Responded.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
17-04-2006, 23:37
Ahhh!!! no!!! Not Tinky-Winky!!

And my bad, Cravan...

I feel a disturbance, as if millions of Edoniakistanbabweaguans suddenly cried out "Holy Shit"
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:38
I feel a disturbance, as if millions of Edoniakistanbabweaguans suddenly cried out "Holy Shit"

El. Oh. El. Ness.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 23:38
I feel a disturbance, as if millions of Edoniakistanbabweaguans suddenly cried out "Holy Shit"
heh...I can't think of what to say...but you get the idea.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:39
Ahhh!!! no!!! Not Tinky-Winky!!

And my bad, Cravan...

No prob. I just quoted you since you were making a list.

And Pyth:
RESPONDED'D!
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:42
No prob. I just quoted you since you were making a list.

And Pyth:
RESPONDED'D!

Responded'd'd'd!
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:43
Responded'd'd'd'd...'d!
Edoniakistanbabweagua
17-04-2006, 23:44
Well I've been out of da loop a while, but I see a big arguement about tech wanking. Eh, i dont know.

Pythogria has a point about a nation in war producing new technologies. I mean, the Manhattan Project is a fine example. We were in a war and what would have taken us maybe decades to create was created in the five-six years we had the war. The nuclear weapon. I mean, nuclear power was still merely a theory at the beginning of WWII and look what happened. Sad to say that war is a catalyst of new technologies. And look at the Cold War (not really a war but still...) so many things were created out of competition with the Soviets.

That said, I think I'll hold off on Project Red Dragon for a while...
Questers
17-04-2006, 23:46
its because people on kravens side are god moding

Mmmm yes well, I suppose maybe if they could understand what your posts are about...

Pythogria, if you don't want to be ripped apart by Kraven, then TG him and discuss it as a personal matter, I'm sure if you show enough interest in not wanting to watch your nation get raped of its resources he can come to a compromise. If you CAN'T compromise, well.. thats a different matter.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:48
ANNOUNCEMENT

Okay, everyone.

I have come to a conclusion.

Due to the fact that this war has gone from planned, to slightly wank-y, to godmoddish, to a train wreck, to some sort of mega-train-wreck, I propose the following:

This never happened.

All casualties never occured.

We will abandon both threads.

Nobody ever speaks of this again.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
17-04-2006, 23:49
ANNOUNCEMENT

Okay, everyone.

I have come to a conclusion.

Due to the fact that this war has gone from planned, to slightly wank-, to godmoddish, to a train wreck, I propose the following:

This never happened.

All casualties never occured.

We will abandon both threads.

Nobody ever speaks of this again.


Ok...

*takes out the shotgun from the shed*

"Im sorry boy, but momma says you gotta die...*sniffle* I love you boy"

Thread looks at me with puppy eyes

POW
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 23:51
Ok...

*takes out the shotgun from the shed*

"Im sorry boy, but momma says you gotta die...*sniffle* I love you boy"

Thread looks at me with puppy eyes

POW
ok...wow. Shotguns have that effect.

EDIT: Didn't mean for the mad face...
Edoniakistanbabweagua
17-04-2006, 23:51
ok...wow. Shotguns have that effect.

EDIT: Didn't mean for the mad face...

Going for an Old Yella scene...sorry.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 23:53
Going for an Old Yella scene...sorry.
I was thinking more of urban Los Angeles...but it wouldn't be with a dog...
Whyatica
17-04-2006, 23:55
I don't think we should retcon this, Pytho.

You were ASKING FOR IT. You started the thread, you wanted to get into a war with "KRAVEN AND ALLIES."

Come on. Fifteen of your allies could not beat the 3 of us (Kraven, Axis Nova, and I [I didn't count Toopoxia since he didn't help much of any]). Take the consquences.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:57
I don't think we should retcon this, Pytho.

You were ASKING FOR IT. You started the thread, you wanted to get into a war with "KRAVEN AND ALLIES."

Come on. Fifteen of your allies could not beat the 3 of us (Kraven, Axis Nova, and I [I didn't count Toopoxia since he didn't help much of any]). Take the consquences.

I also stated that I wanted this to be:

1. A turbulent and dangerous time for Pythogria, but not it's death,

2. Possible for me to at least defend myself.

If anything, I am abandoning this. No offense meant to any of you, IC or OOC. At all.
Amazonian Beasts
17-04-2006, 23:57
I don't think we should retcon this, Pytho.

You were ASKING FOR IT. You started the thread, you wanted to get into a war with "KRAVEN AND ALLIES."

Come on. Fifteen of your allies could not beat the 3 of us (Kraven, Axis Nova, and I [I didn't count Toopoxia since he didn't help much of any]). Take the consquences.
My turn for *foot in mouth*
Edoniakistanbabweagua
17-04-2006, 23:57
I don't think we should retcon this, Pytho.

You were ASKING FOR IT. You started the thread, you wanted to get into a war with "KRAVEN AND ALLIES."

Come on. Fifteen of your allies could not beat the 3 of us (Kraven, Axis Nova, and I [I didn't count Toopoxia since he didn't help much of any]). Take the consquences.

We aint licked yet.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 23:58
We aint licked yet.

Axis had invincible airships around Gria, Whyatica had a massive undefeatable fleet. Kraven was doing fine, without godmods.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 23:59
My turn for *foot in mouth*

*takes place of LNI*

That's disgusting! Get your foot out of your mouth!
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 00:00
Axis had invincible airships around Gria, Whyatica had a massive undefeatable fleet. Kraven was doing fine, without godmods.
Yeah, Whyatica, I have some issues with your damage by my salvos of weaponry...you're not all that bigger than me, yet your fleet takes nearly no damage except a few destroyers.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 00:00
Axis had invincible airships around Gria, Whyatica had a massive undefeatable fleet. Kraven was doing fine, without godmods.

There is always a way to beat anything

If the opponent has a castle, you take down the walls with Trebuchets

If the opponent has Trebuchets, you shell them with a f***ing tank.

We just gotta think outside the box.
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 00:05
Yeah, Whyatica, I have some issues with your damage by my salvos of weaponry...you're not all that bigger than me, yet your fleet takes nearly no damage except a few destroyers.

@Pytho: Just because you couldn't make the proper tactics to defeat my fleet does not make it undefeatable. You lack the writing skills to make a naval battle well, and you left me GUESSING what you were throwing at me. For example: "Shells, Missiles, and Torpedos flew." That tells me nothing other than you fired. How much did you fire? Of what caliber? Of what kind of missile? I had to guess, and when I guess, I don't give you the benefit of the doubt.

@Amazonian: Apologies. I'll edit that in a bit.
Total Whyatican Losses
Severe Gun Damage on WSS Mohammed, Zealous class SuperDreadnaught
33 x "Morsky-Orol" class Light Cruiser
56 x "Hannibal" class Destroyer
20 x "Ilium" class Missile Destroyer
10 x "Cartegena" class SSN
5 x "Torment" class Nuclear Submarine
15 x "Paramount" class ADV
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 00:05
There is always a way to beat anything

If the opponent has a castle, you take down the walls with Trebuchets

If the opponent has Trebuchets, you shell them with a f***ing tank.

We just gotta think outside the box.
You can't when your opponent says it can't be done...the airships are feasible maybe in the 22nd century. I wouldn't say in 2030.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 00:07
You can't when your opponent says it can't be done...the airships are feasible maybe in the 22nd century. I wouldn't say in 2030.

you gotta point there...
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 00:07
Here, I'm abandoning this, and the IC thread. None of this happened. No offense meant to any of you at all.
Questers
18-04-2006, 00:10
Whyatica, I take it the HMS Wake Island kicked arse?

Pythogria, no offence man, but that is weak. You could at least try compromise with Kraven.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 00:12
Oh well. I was kinda hoping to use some more MAVs later on. Maybe the Hadhayosh which I think was cool. And the Cipactli would've been kick ass!
Cravan
18-04-2006, 00:13
Whyatica, I take it the HMS Wake Island kicked arse?

Pythogria, no offence man, but that is weak. You could at least try compromise with Kraven.

Well, it is his choice to retcon...
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 00:13
Oh well. I was kinda hoping to use some more MAVs later on. Maybe the Hadhayosh which I think was cool. And the Cipactli would've been kick ass!
The land was getting fun, at least...Icica was going to be a huge kickass battle...
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 00:15
I guess I'll go back to my good friend, Mr. Jack Daniels.
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 00:18
Well, it is his choice to retcon...

So the victors don't get a say? We put as much effort in this as he did.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 00:27
No offense, but I would like to continue this as well. The Icica fight was getting good and I was sending in more troops.

But he is the starter of the thread, so it is his decision...
Cravan
18-04-2006, 00:28
So the victors don't get a say? We put as much effort in this as he did.

Although that is true, it isn't your country getting subjugated. Although he lost, it is ultimately his choice what happens to his nation.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 00:29
No offense, but I would like to continue this as well. The Icica fight was getting good and I was sending in more troops.

But he is the starter of the thread, so it is his decision...
I would not mind to keep it going, just tone down the airships, AN.
The Icica fight woulda been great...my Pursuers vs Kraven's Leman Russ's, good times...
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 00:29
Yeah, that's true, but damnit he should have known what he was getting into when he started the war with Kraven.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 00:32
Yeah, that's true, but damnit he should have known what he was getting into when he started the war with Kraven.
yeah...that's kinda why I sorta declined when Kraven TG'ed me about possible invasions. Or, for better words, I said I'd think about it then never really got back on the idea.
Spit break
18-04-2006, 00:32
we also expected people on kravens side not to god mod am talking to two people
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 00:36
Well I gotta go. Im going to a bar with me Irish friend Patrick and Im gonna drink and sing Irish drinking songs and then stumble home and pass out on the bed. NIght.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 00:39
Well I gotta go. Im going to a bar with me Irish friend Patrick and Im gonna drink and sing Irish drinking songs and then stumble home and pass out on the bed. NIght.
Sounds like a plan.
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 00:50
we also expected people on kravens side not to god mod am talking to two people

What I said to Pythogria applies to you, too, Spit Break.

Just because you couldn't make the proper tactics to defeat my fleet does not make it undefeatable. You lack the writing skills to make a naval battle well, and you left me GUESSING what you were throwing at me. For example: "Shells, Missiles, and Torpedos flew." That tells me nothing other than you fired. How much did you fire? Of what caliber? Of what kind of missile? I had to guess, and when I guess, I don't give you the benefit of the doubt.
Axis Nova
18-04-2006, 00:50
For those of you complaining about the active stealth on my UAVs, I suggest you read the following articles...

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/cold_plasma_000724.html
http://web.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/coldplasma.html
Spit break
18-04-2006, 00:52
let me give you a example from AB he fires 2000 missiles,torpedos,and sheels from his runs and you only loose 3 subs WTF is with that its fleet battle at close range no possible way you can only loose 3 subs
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 00:54
For those of you complaining about the active stealth on my UAVs, I suggest you read the following articles...

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/cold_plasma_000724.html
http://web.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/coldplasma.html
The cold plasma requires a lot of feed and power. And it blocks from modern radar, not future radar. And it defends from energy weapons, not from conventional.
And you still have too much mass in your airships.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 00:55
For those of you complaining about the active stealth on my UAVs, I suggest you read the following articles...

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/cold_plasma_000724.html
http://web.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/coldplasma.html


Well, I already see how to track your planes. All planes have to let out exhaust from their engines, so satelittles and AWACS can detect the exhaust from your plane. Add that to the air that is displaced by the plane moving fast and stealth really wont help too much. And dont forget electricity scanners...
Cravan
18-04-2006, 00:55
For those of you complaining about the active stealth on my UAVs, I suggest you read the following articles...

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/cold_plasma_000724.html
http://web.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/coldplasma.html

Meh, I've decided to stop complaining about it...

...Since I'll be using cold plasma in a little while thanks to a joint venture with Aequatio. ;)
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:13
Pythogria, no offence man, but that is weak. You could at least try compromise with Kraven.

I would IF it would have really been possible to avoid. If he honestly, and completely won, with no GMing allies then I would have to face consequences.

But I consider invincible airship and impossible to hit UAVs godmodding.
Cravan
18-04-2006, 01:17
For those of you complaining about the active stealth on my UAVs, I suggest you read the following articles...

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/cold_plasma_000724.html
http://web.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/coldplasma.html

Oh, forgot to add. I've also stopped complaining about your use of lasers. Since I'm about to unveil something in a few miniutes... Muwahahahahaha....
Spit break
18-04-2006, 01:18
lol and my mobile suits now always carry ion cannons muhahahahahaha am so evil
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 01:22
lol and my mobile suits now always carry ion cannons muhahahahahaha am so evil

O yeah! Well...well... I have God!!! The power of Christ compells you bitch!!! lol jk :p
Spit break
18-04-2006, 01:23
my ion cannon can kill heaven and hell and earth die all
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 01:24
hey, I'ma back, a few days off NS made me realise that there is nothing else to replace it, but it seems Pyth made this thread all wierdy and stuff, so I'ma good.
Axis Nova
18-04-2006, 01:24
The cold plasma requires a lot of feed and power. And it blocks from modern radar, not future radar. And it defends from energy weapons, not from conventional.
And you still have too much mass in your airships.

Um, what?

PMT radar uses radio waves like every other kind of radar.

And I never claimed cold plasma protected them from anything other than radar.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 01:25
O yeah! Well...well... I have God!!! The power of Christ compells you bitch!!! lol jk :p
Crap, I'm dead now.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:25
hey, I'ma back, a few days off NS made me realise that there is nothing else to replace it, but it seems Pyth made this thread all wierdy and stuff, so I'ma good.

Yeah, this fell apart...

But yes... next time, I'll be sure to plan this out better.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 01:31
Toopoxia has the same amount of posts as me...weird...
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 01:33
Toopoxia has the same amount of posts as me...weird...

and yet I still don't feel any more of a Spammer :(
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 01:36
and yet I still don't feel any more of a Spammer :(

It's ok. Here have some Jack Daniels.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:36
and yet I still don't feel any more of a Spammer :(

Don't worry. Follow me.

*goes to Spam forum*
Spit break
18-04-2006, 01:40
oh ya well

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/frozenflower69/other/spammers_deserve_to_die.gif

AB will know this
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:41
oh ya well

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/frozenflower69/other/spammers_deserve_to_die.gif

AB will know this

*gets kicked out window* Ouch...
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 01:41
oh ya well

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/frozenflower69/other/spammers_deserve_to_die.gif

AB will know this

I must have that!!
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 01:41
Yeah, this fell apart...

But yes... next time, I'll be sure to plan this out better.

I have some suggestions for you, if you want to attempt to replay the war.

Pick two people from the...assloads...you fought with in this war to fight against AN, Kraven, and I. Pick people that know how to RP and write well.

Some suggestions for your roleplaying:

Expand your posts - Put detail into them! Show scenes from the bridge of your flagship, for example, describe in detail how much your ships fire, who fires it, etc.
Increase your military budget, or, make a factbook and reset your tax rate and your gov't budget proportions so you can have a better military. You can declare in your factbook what your tax rate and government budget is to make it either a) saner or b) what you want it to be. Just don't increase your GDP at all, use the thirdgeek stat on that.


I'd honestly like to make an apology to everyone in this thread if I seemed like an asshole..
Spit break
18-04-2006, 01:42
I'd honestly like to make an apology to everyone in this thread if I seemed like an asshole..

look whos talking
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:42
I have some suggestions for you, if you want to attempt to replay the war.

Pick two people from the...assloads...you fought with in this war to fight against AN, Kraven, and I. Pick people that know how to RP and write well.

Some suggestions for your roleplaying:

Expand your posts - Put detail into them! Show scenes from the bridge of your flagship, for example, describe in detail how much your ships fire, who fires it, etc.
Increase your military budget, or, make a factbook and reset your tax rate and your gov't budget proportions so you can have a better military. You can declare in your factbook what your tax rate and government budget is to make it either a) saner or b) what you want it to be. Just don't increase your GDP at all, use the thirdgeek stat on that.


I'd honestly like to make an apology to everyone in this thread if I seemed like an asshole..


(I accept the apology.)

But yeah...

I think I'll do that. Increase my GDP and my budgets. And I think I'll make a factbook.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:43
look whos talking

Hey, don't be rude.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 01:43
oh ya well

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/frozenflower69/other/spammers_deserve_to_die.gif

AB will know this
Lol, Mace's sig...
Cravan
18-04-2006, 01:43
I'd honestly like to make an apology to everyone in this thread if I seemed like an asshole..

Don't worry about it, dude.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 01:44
look whos talking

Come now, the man is apologizing.

I'd like to do replay the war very much.

I dont have a factbook. I have a Wiki
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 01:44
Come now, the man is apologizing.

I'd like to do that very much.

I dont have a factbook. I have a Wiki

I have a Wiki, not that it comes to much use cos most people overlook Wiki's for Factbooks.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 01:45
I have a Wiki, not that it comes to much use cos most people overlook Wiki's for Factbooks.

Where do I type a factbook?
Spit break
18-04-2006, 01:45
Hey, don't be rude.
sorry
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 01:45
Come now, the man is apologizing.

I'd like to do replay the war very much.

I dont have a factbook. I have a Wiki
I need a Wiki...bleh, I haven't taken the time to make one.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:46
sorry

Good.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 01:46
ALright, well if you guys will me replaying the war, then I would love to join!! But now I am late for drinking and I will go now. Adios.
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 01:46
(I accept the apology.)

But yeah...

I think I'll do that. Increase my GDP and my budgets. And I think I'll make a factbook.

Nuu!

Reset your budgets so they have more money but don't change your overall GDP!

Like if your percents are
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20

And your budget is 100$, you can change it to like..
0% - $0
40% - $40
20% - $20
27% - $27
13% - $13

etc, but you can't change your overall budget (GDP)
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 01:46
Where do I type a factbook?

as far as I know on the II, i've never made one, I've never been important enough to warrant one.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:47
Nuu!

Reset your budgets so they have more money but don't change your overall GDP!

Like if your percents are
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20

And your budget is 100$, you can change it to like..
0% - $0
40% - $40
20% - $20
27% - $27
13% - $13

etc, but you can't change your overall budget (GDP)


(I meant change my GDP using issues.)

And yes, I understand what you mean. I'll type one up now...
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 01:48
Nuu!

Reset your budgets so they have more money but don't change your overall GDP!

Like if your percents are
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20

And your budget is 100$, you can change it to like..
0% - $0
40% - $40
20% - $20
27% - $27
13% - $13

etc, but you can't change your overall budget (GDP)
Yeah, like...screw your welfare and environmental budget. According to thirdgeek, my military budget is a giant percentage of my governmental budget. Does the UN hurt your economy?
Spit break
18-04-2006, 01:49
Nuu!

Reset your budgets so they have more money but don't change your overall GDP!

Like if your percents are
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20
20% - $20

And your budget is 100$, you can change it to like..
0% - $0
40% - $40
20% - $20
27% - $27
13% - $13

etc, but you can't change your overall budget (GDP)
reset your budget how do you do that?
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 01:49
Yeah, like...screw your welfare and environmental budget. According to thirdgeek, my military budget is a giant percentage of my governmental budget. Does the UN hurt your economy?

Generally yes since they tend to favour the environment or workers over businesses.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:50
Yeah, like...screw your welfare and environmental budget. According to thirdgeek, my military budget is a giant percentage of my governmental budget. Does the UN hurt your economy?

Actually, now that I think about iut, yeah, why do we need an environment one anyway? My police and military would clean things up, and monitoring is pretty standard police work...

But Welfare is a god idea. Just not in incredible amounts.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 01:50
Generally yes since they tend to favour the environment or workers over businesses.
Then I'm glad I resigned from it earlier today.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 01:51
Then I'm glad I resigned from it earlier today.

i think I'll follow. I really don't like the proposals anyway, and I have effectively rebelled against them for about a month now. (Absolutely no resolution is in my laws.)
Spit break
18-04-2006, 01:53
ya i hear ya i need to redo my budget but how do i do that?
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 01:55
ya i hear ya i need to redo my budget but how do i do that?
Make a factbook for one. That was the first thing I did. Then divide up your percentages of your budget into reasonable, yet how you like it, percentage portions until you add up to 100%. Then divide your total GDP up into each of those percents.

The UN is a liberal-biased organization...not good for a conservative like me...
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 01:59
Make a factbook for one. That was the first thing I did. Then divide up your percentages of your budget into reasonable, yet how you like it, percentage portions until you add up to 100%. Then divide your total GDP up into each of those percents.

shouldn't you divide the Goverment budget into the percentages, not the GDP, just wondering more than likely wrong as I don't understand the most obvious parts about economy.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 02:00
shouldn't you divide the Goverment budget into the percentages, not the GDP, just wondering more than likely wrong as I don't understand the most obvious parts about economy.
Er, that's what I meant.
Of course, if you have no consumption, the GDP is your budget...though that's a little crazy.
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 02:03
Er, that's what I meant.
Of course, if you have no consumption, the GDP is your budget...though that's a little crazy.

My nation is a commie bastage, and therefore has a 100% tax rate. It makes no sense in an RL setting, but in NS it's entirely possible.

To come up with the most BASIC G'vt budget you can for Ns purposes, take your GDP and multiply it by your chosen tax rate.

1 = 100%, so if you want a 55% tax rate you multiply your GDP by .55 and there's your government budget.
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 02:13
my GDP, times by my Tax Rate, 0, yay! the only NS nation with absolutly nothing in it! :P
Spit break
18-04-2006, 02:14
Gil: look a pile of dirt lets take it


lol rofl
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 02:14
my GDP, times by my Tax Rate, 0, yay! the only NS nation with absolutly nothing in it! :P

Taxes are not the only way governments make money, but NS doesn't really recognize that, and only recognizes that in 0% tax governments.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 02:15
my GDP, times by my Tax Rate, 0, yay! the only NS nation with absolutly nothing in it! :P
You have no taxes? Mine are hugely high...
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 02:17
my Goverment likes companies :)
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 02:18
Are you guys for retconning the war and starting over with a closed 3 on 3?
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 02:18
my Goverment likes companies :)
I'm supposedly capitalist, but meh, maybe not...
Spit break
18-04-2006, 02:18
you have no government its just dirt and i take it
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 02:19
you have no government its just dirt and i take it

How dare ye, I'll throw my military at you!

*throws a stick*
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 02:20
How dare ye, I'll throw my military at you!

*throws a stick*
*Pokes a soldier's eye out*
"Ow!! MEDIC!!!"
Spit break
18-04-2006, 02:21
*pulls out full force of the spit break military*

put your hands up and i will give you nothing
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 02:22
*points at his above post*
Toopoxia
18-04-2006, 02:22
mmmmm, tasty Spam.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 02:23
mmmmm, tasty Spam.
Delicious! Enough for a feast!
Spit break
18-04-2006, 02:43
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/frozenflower69/other/spammers_deserve_to_die.gif

again my response
Cravan
18-04-2006, 02:52
Okay, guys. Just let the thread die. Nothing to see here.
Nakanaori
18-04-2006, 07:06
no!!! continue till we reach page 100!!!
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 07:07
no!!! continue till we reach page 100!!!

NO.

We're leaving this alone. None of this EVER happened.

End. Of. Story.
Northford
18-04-2006, 08:43
Are you doing that three on three?

I'd be interested. Check my posts..they are all long, go into detail, and actually support a plot.
The Kraven Corporation
18-04-2006, 10:37
I'm sorry, but if this is going to be Ret-conned then its a little more than disheartening for me, I tried my best to make this a fun RP for everyone, despite the fact that it turned out to be a huge dog pile, We came to a conclusion that didn't result in your complete Destruction, just an Occupation like france for example...

Now if your choosing to Ret-conn, then I'm sorry but I don't have the time or the patience to start over again, but in the end its your nation and its up to you, I leave the ball in your court. ;)
Southeastasia
18-04-2006, 10:48
TKC, telegram (nothing to do with this).
The Kraven Corporation
18-04-2006, 10:53
TKC, telegram (nothing to do with this).

Responded
Southeastasia
18-04-2006, 11:03
Responded. Let's keep the conversation going.
The Kraven Corporation
18-04-2006, 11:14
Responded. Let's keep the conversation going.

Responded to various TG's
Whyatica
18-04-2006, 14:29
Kraven if you want to attempt to redo this and you have no time, I can command Supreme State forces..
Nakanaori
18-04-2006, 17:53
sorry for being a noob. that being i am one.

what does retcon mean? i know it has something to do with scratching an entire thread, but i want an official definition. thanks to anyone that can provide one!
Questers
18-04-2006, 17:57
sorry for being a noob. that being i am one.

what does retcon mean? i know it has something to do with scratching an entire thread, but i want an official definition. thanks to anyone that can provide one!

Retcon is when you completley ignore an entire set of events. You may ignore certain parts of the war, but to ignore an entire war is to retcon it.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 17:57
sorry for being a noob. that being i am one.

what does retcon mean? i know it has something to do with scratching an entire thread, but i want an official definition. thanks to anyone that can provide one!

Retcon-

The equivalent of saying, "This never happened. Ever. Nobdy knows of this, and we will never speak of this again. Ever again."
Nakanaori
18-04-2006, 18:15
is retcon a real word? or is it an RP venacular? i'm gonna look it up.
Nakanaori
18-04-2006, 18:19
Definition:

retcon



/ret'kon/ retroactive continuity.

The common situation in fiction where a new story "reveals"
things about events in previous stories, usually leaving the
"facts" the same (thus preserving continuity) while completely
changing their interpretation. For example, revealing that a
whole season of "Dallas" was a dream was a retcon.


i don't think it fits with the NS definition, but it's the only one i could find.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 19:41
If anyone still is up for a 3v3 I'd be happy to go...
Edoniakistanbabweagua
18-04-2006, 19:44
100!!!
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 19:45
100!!!

For me it's on page 38.
Northford
18-04-2006, 20:00
Its prolli cos ur resolution on ya monitor.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 20:06
I've set it so this is page 149...
Findan
18-04-2006, 21:13
So where is the war being fought now? Kahanistan? ANywhere?
Cravan
18-04-2006, 21:13
So where is the war being fought now? Kahanistan? ANywhere?

Orezia, Al Kahif, and Kahanistan.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 21:14
So where is the war being fought now? Kahanistan? ANywhere?

Nowhere. This Rp was RETCONEd. None of this ever happened.

Now, as for a war on Kraven, you ca ndeclare war all you like.
Findan
18-04-2006, 21:16
So I guess I'll deploy troopps to Kahanistan. Pythogria, if you don't mind can you tell me why this has been retconed.
Pythogria
18-04-2006, 21:18
So I guess I'll deploy troopps to Kahanistan. Pythogria, if you don't mind can you tell me why this has been retconed.

Mostly because:

1. AN was godmoding.

2. Whyatica was.

3. The whole thing became a train wreck.

4. It's not fun when The Father can h@x0r everything.

5. The plan was not being followed.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 21:19
Mostly because:

1. AN was godmoding.

2. Whyatica was.

3. The whole thing became a train wreck.

4. It's not fun when The Father can h@x0r everything.

5. The plan was not being followed.
#4=#1, and Whyatica said he'd fix his posts...
Findan
18-04-2006, 21:19
k
The Kraven Corporation
18-04-2006, 22:16
Ok, if this RP is being Retconned, so be it, But I don't have the time or the Patience for it to be re-worked, Now Whyatica was not god modding, I can vouch for that, otherwise He wouldn't be in the Supreme State.

I'm sorry this has to be retconned, but you had an opportunity to turn down the Options the High Command gave you, because it didn't follow your plan is not my fault or problem, its a free form RP, so anything can happen once it has started.

Anyway, seeing as its been retconned, I'm now leaving this thread to get one with Future conquests, I wish you all the best of luck.

Kraven
Cravan
18-04-2006, 22:23
Good luck to you, too, Kraven. I sense we shall be seeing each other on the battlefield again very soon.

And I must agree with Kraven, Pyth. Whyatica was not god modding. He wasn't being the most patient player with you, but certainly not god modding.
Amazonian Beasts
18-04-2006, 22:24
Good luck to you, too, Kraven. I sense we shall be seeing each other on the battlefield again very soon.

And I must agree with Kraven, Pyth. Whyatica was not god modding. He wasn't being the most patient player with you, but certainly not god modding.
He said he'd fix anything that seemed a little off, as well...a couple pages back.