NationStates Jolt Archive

NO RP is insignificant! continue it! I pledge that I will be with it to the bitter end!
Yeah, but Franberry was the antagonist, and he's on vacation, and I kind of want to bring Cpt. Kelly over to this RP.

Yeah, but Franberry was the antagonist, and he's on vacation, and I kind of want to bring Cpt. Kelly over to this RP.

Well, I don't want to oppose Fran. He's my ally... Here, who's he backing?

Sorry to bring up this issue, buuuuut...

So... am I the only person with good intentions in this alliance?

HELLOOOOOOO!!!!??? OVER HEEERRREEEE!!!!!!!!!

Well, I don't want to oppose Fran. He's my ally... Here, who's he backing?
NPC country, Republic of Eire.

(All said in here is utterly OOC.)

This thread is for the planning of my war with Kraven Corporation.

To start, I'll find a cell of CP in Icica, my most northern city, and I'll attack them. He'll have an army of Centurions, and there'll be a fight there. Then, I'll declare all-out war on him. Now, to discuss who's intervening and what's going to happen!

The Sides

Pythogria and Allies---

Pythogria

Amazonian Beasts

Spit break

Moantha

Cravan

Liberated New Ireland

Hamilay

Northford

Findan

Edoniakistanbabweagua

Usea-Jason

Kraven Bloc---

Kraven Corporation

Kraven Slave States (Whyatica, Kraven Neonites)

Toopoxia
I'd like to join in on your side, Pythogria.

Sorry to bring up this issue, buuuuut...



HELLOOOOOOO!!!!??? OVER HEEERRREEEE!!!!!!!!!
Kraven, we all know you're evil.

NPC country, Republic of Eire.

and what do they stand for?

any way can you people get back on track

I'd like to join in on your side, Pythogria.

Thank you! Adding you now!

I'd like to join in on your side, Pythogria.

I was gonna say, I saw you declare war on Kraven, and I was wondering what front you were going to enter in on.

Kraven, we all know you're evil.
Check the name, dude. Please, check the name.

Kraven, we all know you're evil.

That was Cravan talking. Not Kraven.

Pythogria - AIM? MSN?

Oh yes...

MAP!!!!!!!!

and what do they stand for?
I didn't really develop them. They're a Marxist country (which, IC or RL, I have nothing against), and we've basically been having border wars since we were created.

That was Cravan talking. Not Kraven.
Hehe, you're so funny, Kraven.

i agree with whya we need a map

Pythogria - AIM? MSN?

Oh yes...

MAP!!!!!!!!

Niether.

But as for the map, it'll be up in a few minutes.

Hehe, you're so funny, Kraven.

Grrrrr.... I knew someone would confuse the names the second I entered this war.

I didn't really develop them. They're a Marxist country (which, IC or RL, I have nothing against), and we've basically been having border wars since we were created.

Well, IC, my country hates Communism. I'll suggest that you just have peace.

Niether.

But as for the map, it'll be up in a few minutes.
thanks man makes it easy if you could mark were kravens forces are makes the orbital drop easier

Niether.

But as for the map, it'll be up in a few minutes.
Wait. We're finally getting a map?! There is no smiley that could portray the extent of my happiness at this moment... except possible :mad: . Oh, I mean :headbang: . Hells yeah. :headbang: .

thanks man makes it easy if you could mark were kravens forces are makes the orbital drop easier

Erm... It's a map of the nation I'm drawing by hand. An Icica one'll be up soon.

Wait. We're finally getting a map?! There is no smiley that could portray the extent of my happiness at this moment... except possible :mad: . Oh, I mean :headbang: . Hells yeah. :headbang: .

And the one of the individual conflict is coming soon. Today.

Grrrrr.... I knew someone would confuse the names the second I entered this war.
Shut up, Kraven, you're gonna make me choke!!! From laughter!!!

oh ok lol ill just move in were i see fit

http://www.maj.com/gallery/awimager/Extraz/NationStates/scan0001.jpg

There's a Pythogria map.

(YES, I know I have messy writing.)

Shut up, Kraven, you're gonna make me choke!!! From laughter!!!

.....................

Shut up, Kraven, you're gonna make me choke!!! From laughter!!!

Enough, LNI.

Shut up, Kraven, you're gonna make me choke!!! From laughter!!!
God, this kid is a real idiot. Doesn't he get that you're not Kraven?

great map i know were to do the obital drop now

great map i know were to do the obital drop now

Thanks!

...Now I feel this akward silence directed at me.
Sort of like what I felt after I called AMF a jackass yesterday and he took exception to it...

...Now I feel this akward silence directed at me.
Sort of like what I felt after I called AMF a jackass yesterday and he took exception to it...

Fine.

*turns off Awkward Silence Weapons System*

Seen the map?

there was this one guy in a different RP i believe it was the MT war games one were he had a computer program for map making now if i could only remember what it was called

there was this one guy in a different RP i believe it was the MT war games one were he had a computer program for map making now if i could only remember what it was called

Find it! NOW!

Lol, it would be useful.

there was this one guy in a different RP i believe it was the MT war games one were he had a computer program for map making now if i could only remember what it was called
I believe it was "MS Paint".
Or photoshop.

ill go look be back in about 10 min

ill go look be back in about 10 min
ditto.

God, this kid is a real idiot. Doesn't he get that you're not Kraven?

Congrats.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/crave22/Crap/idiot.jpg
You officially win.

Congrats.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/crave22/Crap/idiot.jpg
You officially win.

Can I steal that image? PLEASE?

Pythogria:

Seriously, GET AIM OR MSN!

Oh yes, what are the conditions on Mesliop, Gria, and Asun?

Go for it, Pyth. Took me two miniutes to slap together. Two miniutes of that spent looking for the pic of the ribbon. :p

Pythogria:

Seriously, GET AIM OR MSN!

Oh yes, what are the conditions on Mesliop, Gria, and Asun?

Mesiop, Adun, and Gria are all tropical. But my fleet guards that bay.

Heavily.

Very heavily.

Go for it, Pyth. Took me two miniutes to slap together. Two miniutes of that spent looking for the pic of the ribbon. :p

Stealing.

Okay. I'm coming from the south, and moving to hit Kabalt. Amazonian, Spit Break, where are your fleets?

Okay. I'm coming from the south, and moving to hit Kabalt. Amazonian, Spit Break, where are your fleets?

Kabalt is protected by cliffs. You can only really land i nthe bay, or on Mesiop.

ok found it a program called CC2 what ever it is

ok found it a program called CC2 what ever it is

Where can I download it?

unkown try google you can get every thing there i got DOGA from there

CC2? Do you mean CS2? As in Photoshop CS2? As in the $600.00 (US) Photoshop CS2?

unkown try google you can get every thing there i got DOGA from there

Checked, not willing to pay.

might wanna just use paint then. i know DOGA is great for 3D models of small city blocks

might wanna just use paint then. i know DOGA is great for 3D models of small city blocks

Yep, paint. Someone give me a simple description of what's happening.

cant help you am about to RP my fleet moving into position

*Dragoon voice* I have returned.

*Dragoon voice* I have returned.

*dragoon voice* For Vengeance!

Have you played that game?

*Dragoon voice* I have returned.

En taro Adun.

*dragoon voice* For Vengeance!

Have you played that game?
Maybe once or twice...

En taro Adun.
Honor guide me!

Go Sc

Kabalt is protected by cliffs. You can only really land i nthe bay, or on Mesiop.

I am getting sick of "PROTECTED BY CLIFFS" bs. I will land at Kabalt no matter what, I will find a way.

Honor guide me!

Just found this... It's addictive... (http://eta.ytmnd.com/)

I am getting sick of "PROTECTED BY CLIFFS" bs. I will land at Kabalt no matter what, I will find a way.

Here, I do NOT want to godmod. But the only way you'll land there is via aircraft. You may be able to find a little beach, but you still have a CLIFF OF ROCK to deal with.

Just found this... It's addictive... (http://eta.ytmnd.com/)
Can't stop listening...
Have you heard the entaroadun... I mean ytmnd of the Bauman Emails?

Can't stop listening...
Have you heard the entaroadun... I mean ytmnd of the Bauman Emails?

Who hasn't? :p

Here, I do NOT want to godmod. But the only way you'll land there is via aircraft. You may be able to find a little beach, but you still have a CLIFF OF ROCK to deal with.

Not a problem, Kraven's specialized in landing via VTOL aircraft..

What defenses are there?

that gets annoying fast that site any way my fleet is ready operation spit break commences at dawn

Who hasn't? :p
I just found this: http://meatwadlolz.ytmnd.com/
Meatwad reading the letters...
Hellz yeah.

Not a problem, Kraven's specialized in landing via VTOL aircraft..

What defenses are there?

Defenses:

Krumbar bunkers. Armed with a 500mm railgun, and two Majar missile turrets. Lots of ammo, the missiles use a rapid fire system, and it can take several hits from a battleship. made of reinforced concrete.

sounds like a mini version of one of my fortress's even though there huge and that defence is kinda small

sounds like a mini version of one of my fortress's even though there huge and that defence is kinda small

Oh, I have lots of Krumbars. One per 50km.

Defenses:

Krumbar bunkers. Armed with a 500mm railgun, and two Majar missile turrets. Lots of ammo, the missiles use a rapid fire system, and it can take several hits from a battleship. made of reinforced concrete.

I somehow doubt it can survive any more than 1 or 2 rounds from a 30" shell. Ah well, my next post is coming if Amazon and Spit Break aren't going to get in my way.

I somehow doubt it can survive any more than 1 or 2 rounds from a 30" shell. Ah well, my next post is coming if Amazon and Spit Break aren't going to get in my way.

Well, it IS an underground, reinforced concrete bunker with a couple point-laser defence turrets.

I somehow doubt it can survive any more than 1 or 2 rounds from a 30" shell. Ah well, my next post is coming if Amazon and Spit Break aren't going to get in my way.
i dont think we will well not till tomorrow any way you might get caught in the orbital drop and blown to shreds

i dont think we will well not till tomorrow any way you might get caught in the orbital drop and blown to shreds

What in god's name is an orbital drop?

I somehow doubt any sort of laser you can field in PMT can stop a 10,000kg+ shell..

orbital MS pod drop its a quick delivery method took 3 years to perfect

What in god's name is an orbital drop?

I somehow doubt any sort of laser you can field in PMT can stop a 10,000kg+ shell..

10,000 KG shell? How big IS this ship? That shell would be incredibly inaccurate. And if anything, I'd defeat you, because this is a LOT of railguns shooting. Oh, not to mention... PATROLS, alerting MY FLEET, who will promptly rip you apart with torpedoes and much smaller, but more accurate and faster firing, shells.

orbital MS pod drop its a quick delivery method took 3 years to perfect

Wait. You're dropping soldiers from orbit? How will ANYTHING survive impact?

Wait. You're dropping soldiers from orbit? How will ANYTHING survive impact?
They're Gundams, clearly.

10,000 KG shell? How big IS this ship? That shell would be incredibly inaccurate. And if anything, I'd defeat you, because this is a LOT of railguns shooting. Oh, not to mention... PATROLS, alerting MY FLEET, who will promptly rip you apart with torpedoes and much smaller, but more accurate and faster firing, shells.

30" shells, naturally not all of my guns are 30" and 10,000 kg shells. My two Zealous-class SDs have 30" guns, but the rest of my fleet doesn't.

Btw..Aren't Gundams FT?

not soldiers Mobile suits the GINN has a thruster system and so does the pod they go from mach 9 - 0.9 then deploy the GINN activates its thusters to slow down and touch down also after the pods deploy releasing the GINNs they can start fireing

They're Gundams, clearly.
Spit break, NO FT!

30" shells, naturally not all of my guns are 30" and 10,000 kg shells. My two Zealous-class SDs have 30" guns, but the rest of my fleet doesn't.

Btw..Aren't Gundams FT?

(Yes, they are.)

But as for those ships, good. you won't hit ANYTHING with the big shells...

Spit break, NO FT!
Dude, I was joking. As usual...

a GINN is not FT a Gundam and a regular Mobile suit are two different things a GINN use's regular weapons and this is PMT!!! a FT for me is BEAM WEAPONS NOT MG's and mech's are PMT atleast low tech ones like mine

a GINN is not FT a Gundam and a regular Mobile suit are two different things a GINN use's regular weapons and this is PMT!!! a FT for me is BEAM WEAPONS NOT MG's and mech's are PMT atleast low tech ones like mine
*Caboose's voice* What does GINN stand for? Does the G stand for Gundam?

(Yes, they are.)

But as for those ships, good. you won't hit ANYTHING with the big shells...


edit: yes, the 30" shell weighs about 5,000kg.

it does stand for any thing but ZGMF is for Zero-Gravity Maneuver Fighter

oh and for your info Gundam stand for Generation Unrestricted Network Drive Assault Module

and you cant have a Acronym in a Acronym

edit: yes, the 30" shell weighs about 5,000kg.

Oh, maybe possible... but inaccurate and very, very hard on the barrel.

a GINN is not FT a Gundam and a regular Mobile suit are two different things a GINN use's regular weapons and this is PMT!!! a FT for me is BEAM WEAPONS NOT MG's and mech's are PMT atleast low tech ones like mine

Mechs are at least 2030 and not useful anyway.

for god sake a GINN is not FT and i believe mid PMT is 2030

for god sake a GINN is not FT

Why not? And 2030 is medium-PMT. I'm low-PMT, 2015.

ya mid PMT is more like what a GINN is

ya mid PMT is more like what a GINN is

Well, I'll allow it, so long as Kraven can combat it.

But really... what makes them better than a tank?

there weapons and speed a rail gun can easily get though the armor in 1 or 2 hits if the rail gun is large enough

there weapons and speed a rail gun can easily get though the armor in 1 or 2 hits if the rail gun is large enough

I can mount railguns on a tank.

Oh, and a railgun would knock a mech over. And they wouldn't be fast. If it ran, it'd fall/trip.

Mechs are entirely not practical in PMT. They're too slow, they're too unmaneuverable, and they go down incredibly easily.

Mechs are entirely not practical in PMT. They're too slow, they're too unmaneuverable, and they go down incredibly easily.

He/she's right.

(They're also incredibly hard to armor.)

He/she's right.

(They're also incredibly hard to armor.)

He.

You can't armour a mech effectively to stop much of anything. A solid hit to one of the joints in the mech's leg means the mech goes down for the count. Hell, an INFANTRYMAN could down a mech with a solid hit.

He.

You can't armour a mech effectively to stop much of anything. A solid hit to one of the joints in the mech's leg means the mech goes down for the count. Hell, an INFANTRYMAN could down a mech with a solid hit.

Especially with a ZT-1 missile...

They're more vulnerable: you can't armor leg joints, so they're like tank treads, but they are bigger targets, and they can permanently ruin the aim of the armor unit (if a tank tread is destroyed, the turret can still fire)

true but Pythogria you should be glad the got large weapons mean i can force kraven off your land and a GINN can be manuvable while its still in air and its computers are pretty good when it comes to tageting

They're more vulnerable: you can't armor leg joints, so they're like tank treads, but they are bigger targets, and they can permanently ruin the aim of the armor unit (if a tank tread is destroyed, the turret can still fire)

You can armor tank treads, from the side. My XM-1s use it, and my XS-1s too.

You can armor tank treads, from the side. My XM-1s use it, and my XS-1s too.
Exactly, you can't really protect the leg joints at all.

true but Pythogria you should be glad the got large weapons mean i can force kraven off your land and a GINN can be manuvable while its still in air and its computers are pretty good when it comes to tageting
It would take an incredible amount of thrust to send an armored unit into the air.

true but Pythogria you should be glad the got large weapons mean i can force kraven off your land and a GINN can be manuvable while its still in air and its computers are pretty good when it comes to tageting

Those large weapons would knock the mech over with recoil. And it couldn't be deployed from orbit.

It would be crushed when it hit Earth. Unless it carries enough fuel to jet-brake the whole way, making it a ealking fuel tank with a computrer and gun. As for targeying, mny VIOLA computers are awesome too.

Exactly, you can't really protect the leg joints at all.

yes, leg joint armor will be useless against anything except maybe small arms.

Spit Break if you keep this BS up I'm going to ignore you. Simple as that.

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed/zgmf-1017.jpg
this is the GINN as you can see the back of the knee is really the most vulnerable part and it all matters with the OS and weight distro

Spit Break if you keep this BS up I'm going to ignore you. Simple as that.

Here, don't be rude.

But seriously, Spit Break, you CAN use mechs. But be warned, they'll be incredibly weak. i SUGGEST you use tanks.

It's not so much that he wants to use mechs as it is that he wants to use mechs that don't have the operational weaknesses as PMT mechs.

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed/zgmf-1017.jpg
this is the GINN as you can see the back of the knee is really the most vulnerable part and it all matters with the OS and weight distro

That thing would fall over when it was fired at, or fires using it's weapons. Oh, and I do NOT want to see a shell impact that visor or go into the shoulder...

It's not so much that he wants to use mechs as it is that he wants to use mechs that don't have the operational weaknesses as PMT mechs.

Yes, Spit Break, you must have these limitations.

I still say that skilled, motivated, properly equipped infantry are superior to anything else that can be fielded.

I still say that skilled, motivated, properly equipped infantry are superior to anything else that can be fielded.

Wrong. Infantry simply cannot carry something that can destroy an Exmortis tank from the front.

i will and i have you know the GINN will be used to sacure the landing zone

Wrong. Infantry simply cannot carry something that can destroy an Exmortis tank from the front.
Infantry can wait an Exmortis out. Slip past front lines, surround an enemy force, cut off supply lines. Eventually, the tank will run out of fuel. Much sooner than the infantry will, anyway. Humans need water every three days (Every day to stay healthy). How often does an Exmortis need to be refueled?

i will and i have you know the GINN will be used to sacure the landing zone

Very well. If you accept all the weaknesses, I hereby rule the following:

Spit Break may use mechs, however they are not well armored, cannot carry much weaponry, and are very slow.

Infantry FTW, hi fives a Toxitrooper.

why do you think it has so many weapons variations because it cant carry every thing once it lands its going to what most likely be in a crouch position in order to support it self and be useing the mountain terrain to stop it from falling back when fireing

Jeez, my computer just FUBARed itself.
Wrong. Infantry simply cannot carry something that can destroy an Exmortis tank from the front.
I read this again. I originally thought you said "to the front", as in the front lines.
Well, tanks have huge blind spots. Even if you try to fix this problem with cameras, they can be shot.
Infantry can take advantage of these blind spots, and knock off treads, destroy turrets through the weak roof armor, and rupture fuel tanks.
Also, the crew needs to be able to see outside. If you use a window, that's a weak spot that can be used to kill the driver. If you use a camera or spotter, they can be shot, which blinds the tank, making it useless.

why do you think it has so many weapons variations because it cant carry every thing once it lands its going to what most likely be in a crouch position in order to support it self and be useing the mountain terrain to stop it from falling back when fireing

Thus...

It works.

Jeez, my computer just FUBARed itself.

I read this again. I originally thought you said "to the front", as in the front lines.
Well, tanks have huge blind spots. Even if you try to fix this problem with cameras, they can be shot.
Infantry can take advantage of these blind spots, and knock off treads, destroy turrets through the weak roof armor, and rupture fuel tanks.
Also, the crew needs to be able to see outside. If you use a window, that's a weak spot that can be used to kill the driver. If you use a camera or spotter, they can be shot, which blinds the tank, making it useless.

And I'm goiung to use tanks aloe? Right. My tanks trave lin numbers, with infantry support, and sometimes helicopter support. And ALWAYS my APC/IFV vehicles travel with them.

Why?

To destroy infantry.

And I'm goiung to use tanks aloe? Right. My tanks trave lin numbers, with infantry support, and sometimes helicopter support. And ALWAYS my APC/IFV vehicles travel with them.

Why?

To destroy infantry.
Infantry still have the capability of holding out and even defeating superior combined arms, if properly motivated. Look at the Vietcong, the Red Army during the Battle of Stalingrad, and the Afghanis during the Soviet invasion.

Infantry still have the capability of holding out and even defeating superior combined arms, if properly motivated. Look at the Vietcong, the Red Army during the Battle of Stalingrad, and the Afghanis during the Soviet invasion.

The ABILITY. I will, eventually, win. Really, no man can hold back tanks, infantry, and helicopters, all at once. Nor can he hold back ar- (or or-) -tillery, or fuel air bombs.

The ABILITY. I will, eventually, win. Really, no man can hold back tanks, infantry, and helicopters, all at once. Nor can he hold back ar- (or or-) -tillery, or fuel air bombs.
Explain how the Vietcong did it for decades, then.

Explain how the Vietcong did it for decades, then.

Gurrilia tactics against an enemy that didn't do it right.

Explain how the Vietcong did it for decades, then.

The Viet Cong had morale. They were fighting for their homelands, while the Americans didn't know why they were fighting. The Viet Cong also had the terrain on their side, among other things..

Gurrilia tactics against an enemy that didn't do it right.
How so? Now I'm curious, but what were the US Armed Forces doing wrong, and how do you remedy the situation?

How so? Now I'm curious, but what were the US Armed Forces doing wrong, and how do you remedy the situation?

If I was the USA?

1. they need to have a REASON to fight. Give them morale.

2. Start using gurrilia tactics.

3. Hit supply lines. HARD.

Infantry can wait an Exmortis out. Slip past front lines, surround an enemy force, cut off supply lines. Eventually, the tank will run out of fuel. Much sooner than the infantry will, anyway. Humans need water every three days (Every day to stay healthy). How often does an Exmortis need to be refueled?

You're going to stop my supply lines with infantry? How so? do guard my convoys with my XC-1 APC/IFVs, you know. .50 caliber machine guns.

EDIT: And an Exmortis needs to be refueled every week or so. It's got a big tank.

If I was the USA?

1. they need to have a REASON to fight. Give them morale.

2. Start using gurrilia tactics.

3. Hit supply lines. HARD.

1. Soldiers had a reason: to rid the world of communism, kill the enemy. From what I've learned, I think that the soldiers got demoralized because the enemy wouldn't engage them in a stand-up fight. They hated waiting to be ambushed.

2. How are they going to use guerilla tactics when they are encumbered by tanks and noisy helicopters?

3. US forces tried to do that. They practically immolated the Ho Chi Min trail. But guerrilla cells are often self-contained, and get supplies from sympathetic civilians.

1. Soldiers had a reason: to rid the world of communism, kill the enemy. From what I've learned, I think that the soldiers got demoralized because the enemy wouldn't engage them in a stand-up fight. They hated waiting to be ambushed.

2. How are they going to use guerilla tactics when they are encumbered by tanks and noisy helicopters?

3. US forces tried to do that. They practically immolated the Ho Chi Min trail. But guerrilla cells are often self-contained, and get supplies from sympathetic civilians.

1. Not that they agreed with.

2. Well, of course you won't use those in your gurillia operations.

3. Hunt them down. End of story. Kill the cells.

You're going to stop my supply lines with infantry? How so? do guard my convoys with my XC-1 APC/IFVs, you know. .50 caliber machine guns.

EDIT: And an Exmortis needs to be refueled every week or so. It's got a big tank.
I'm surprised your army doesn't collapse under the weight of its own logistics units. Each convoy has to carry enough fuel for: the fuel trucks, the unit to be resupplied, the escorts, the extra trucks needed for those escorts, the extra escorts needed to cover those extra trucks, etc.

My good Pythogria, we, the Allied States of Nakanaori, will gladly aid your defense. Kraven is a large and powerful foe, with our (yours, ours, and our allies) combined strength, we may yet live with a free Pythogria.

My good Pythogria, we, the Allied States of Nakanaori, will gladly aid your defense. Kraven is a large and powerful foe, with our (yours, ours, and our allies) combined strength, we may yet live with a free Pythogria.

Thank you. I'm adding you to the first post.

I'm surprised your army doesn't collapse under the weight of its own logistics units. Each convoy has to carry enough fuel for: the fuel trucks, the unit to be resupplied, the escorts, the extra trucks needed for those escorts, the extra escorts needed to cover those extra trucks, etc.

My fuel trucks carry a *LOT* of fuel. And my things are pretty fuel-efficient. After all, my nation's philosophy is, "Inefficiency-- the Scourge of mankind."

hey before we put my mobile suit conflict to rest for future PMT reference what would be better a 2 leg or 4 legged Mobile suit because there is one design i can ulter for PMT thats four legged

My fuel trucks carry a *LOT* of fuel. And my things are pretty fuel-efficient. After all, my nation's philosophy is, "Inefficiency-- the Scourge of mankind."

What do your things run on?

1. Not that they agreed with.

2. Well, of course you won't use those in your gurillia operations.

3. Hunt them down. End of story. Kill the cells.

1. Many Americans agreed with the motives behind the war, actually.

2. Guerilla vs. guerilla combat doesn't really have anything to do with our infantry vs. armor debate.

3. That's what the Americans tried to do. As a result, the My Lai massacre occured.

hey before we put my mobile suit conflict to rest for future PMT reference what would be better a 2 leg or 4 legged Mobile suit because there is one design i can ulter for PMT thats four legged

4 legged, allows stability.

What do your things run on?


1. Many Americans agreed with the motives behind the war, actually.

2. Guerilla vs. guerilla combat doesn't really have anything to do with our infantry vs. armor debate.

3. That's what the Americans tried to do. As a result, the My Lai massacre occured.

They run on most stuff, but mostly biodiesel or real diesel.

1. Still, the troops didn't.

2. Still, tell me- Squad VS. MBT. Who wins? MBT.

3. They didn't do it right. Infiltrate them. Assasinate leaders.

Just a question, where is the main thread? this is just an OOC thread, where's the action?

Infantry can be killed with cluster bombs, bunker-busters, yo-yos.... etc. if you think about it, infantry don't have much of a chance against technology. and is there really a Mech army? on our side??? or on Kraven's side? ICBM make short work of a mech, or a simple EMP. Tanks can be snuck up on, treads can be sabotaged or compromised, tank pits... Aircraft can be down by SAMs, choppers are susceptible to small arms fire, RPGs, stinger missiles... Basically, everything has it's weaknesses, especially a mech.

Hey, could you add me to the supporting Pythogria?

3 legs are best, cuz three points define a plane and therefore, will never twist and fall.

Just a question, where is the main thread? this is just an OOC thread, where's the action?

Infantry can be killed with cluster bombs, bunker-busters, yo-yos.... etc. if you think about it, infantry don't have much of a chance against technology. and is there really a Mech army? on our side??? or on Kraven's side? ICBM make short work of a mech, or a simple EMP. Tanks can be snuck up on, treads can be sabotaged or compromised, tank pits... Aircraft can be down by SAMs, choppers are susceptible to small arms fire, RPGs, stinger missiles... Basically, everything has it's weaknesses, especially a mech.

The main IC thread is Operation: Imperial Fist.

And Spit Break (on our side) uses mechs.

but about treads... you're going to sabotage them under armor? YES, I do armor my treads.

thought so am going to get started at modifing this then
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed/tmfa-802.jpg
its called the BuCUE am going to eliminate the FT beam saber at the front but keep the rail guns and missile pod which are interchangeable it has no fixed weapons

i think this is my better option to the GINN but i cant do a orbital drop with them

Hey, could you add me to the supporting Pythogria?
Certainly. My side?

In order for the tread to be effective though, it needs to be exposed to the ground.

It can't be completely isolated.

Edit: Yeah, your side.

My forces run on magnets. new tech, no refueling required, only thing is it's stability might go awal if an EMP were to hit and or a strong magnetic force was adjacent to it.

In order for the tread to be effective though, it needs to be exposed to the ground.

It can't be completely isolated.

Edit: Yeah, your side.

Added!

But they're armored everywhere, except the ground. With it moving... they won't be able to sabotage.

When you say they run on magnets, what exactly do you mean?

Pyth: That'd really screw you when it comes to ground clearance. And haven't you heard of track buster mines?

My forces run on magnets. new tech, no refueling required, only thing is it's stability might go awal if an EMP were to hit and or a strong magnetic force was adjacent to it.

They float using magnets? Can I use that?

My forces run on magnets. new tech, no refueling required, only thing is it's stability might go awal if an EMP were to hit and or a strong magnetic force was adjacent to it.
are you one of those guys who think they have found a engine that powers it self/ never dies

P.S: check over my four legged design its at the bottom of the previous page i want the ok before i even show it being tested

thought so am going to get started at modifing this then
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed/tmfa-802.jpg
its called the BuCUE am going to eliminate the FT beam saber at the front but keep the rail guns and missile pod which are interchangeable it has no fixed weapons

i think this is my better option to the GINN but i cant do a orbital drop with them

I could easily destroy that turret.

The main IC thread is Operation: Imperial Fist.

And Spit Break (on our side) uses mechs.

but about treads... you're going to sabotage them under armor? YES, I do armor my treads.

no, but it's not hard to do, for instance, picture in the pitch of night, the enemy comes and welds the wheels together. that would suck, no? or if they can't get to the gears, take metal strips and weld them to the treads making it immobile.

NOTE: I am not sabotaging ur treads, just posting a thought

I could easily destroy that turret.
hey whos side are you on?

no, but it's not hard to do, for instance, picture in the pitch of night, the enemy comes and welds the wheels together. that would suck, no? or if they can't get to the gears, take metal strips and weld them to the treads making it immobile.

NOTE: I am not sabotaging ur treads, just posting a thought

My tanks are kept in my camps. The middle of the camp. And tell me, how are they going to weld when the clearance between cover and ground is <1/2 an inch?

hey whos side are you on?

Yours, but Kraven could easily destroy it.

ya i kinda see that but still its a better choice if i fix a MG or two to it say 40-50mm should do

ya i kinda see that but still its a better choice if i fix a MG or two to it say 40-50mm should do

Yes, works. but ARMOR that turret, or make it lower.

are you one of those guys who think they have found a engine that powers it self/ never dies

P.S: check over my four legged design its at the bottom of the previous page i want the ok before i even show it being tested

if you think about it, it's quite possible, non?

you have a coil with two magnets on opposite sides of the coil, the coild is magnetized, and the magnets around them revolve around the coil. on the backside of the magnets is a peice of rough material that is ground against something else producing a charge (negative) since the coil is negatively charged, the new charge goes away to the outer most possible part of the battery, which is the connectors of the circuit and they fly around the circuit powering it. They then circle around and go back into the insulator - turned conductor. This is a DC current, regulated by a diode.

My tanks are kept in my camps. The middle of the camp. And tell me, how are they going to weld when the clearance between cover and ground is <1/2 an inch?

perhaps they would weld ur clearance to ur tread? iono, who knows wht they would think of? maybe they'll weld ur turrent to the base???

if you think about it, it's quite possible, non?

you have a coil with two magnets on opposite sides of the coil, the coild is magnetized, and the magnets around them revolve around the coil. on the backside of the magnets is a peice of rough material that is ground against something else producing a charge (negative) since the coil is negatively charged, the new charge goes away to the outer most possible part of the battery, which is the connectors of the circuit and they fly around the circuit powering it. They then circle around and go back into the insulator - turned conductor. This is a DC current, regulated by a diode.

Can I use that technology?

perhaps they would weld ur clearance to ur tread? iono, who knows wht they would think of? maybe they'll weld ur turrent to the base???

Well, you can sabotage anything, really. I can sabotage your infantry by poisoning food.

sure, if you can fit ur tanks with it. warning: the battery is not small, it is about the size of a car engine. we're looking into ways to improve the size and output.

true something like that would bring a new meaning to electric car

Well, you can sabotage anything, really. I can sabotage your infantry by poisoning food.

I can put ur infantry to sleep with my infamous sleeping agent. :p

sure, if you can fit ur tanks with it. warning: the battery is not small, it is about the size of a car engine. we're looking into ways to improve the size and output.

Thank you! there's space for that battery!

whats that you talking am sure falling sleep lol j/k

I can put ur infantry to sleep with my infamous sleeping agent. :p

Of course. And the war continues.

everything has a weakness.

(Oh, wait. I could give my infantry...

GAS MASKS!)

Of course. And the war continues.

everything has a weakness.

(Oh, wait. I could give my infantry...

GAS MASKS!)

not if i secretly poke holes in them!!! lol.

not if i secretly poke holes in them!!! lol.

And you'll poke holes in METAL?

a drill lol

a drill lol

I'll guard my masks!

(lol, this is almost at 50 pages!)

(lol ya) so what is there to talk about with this war? maybe i should use my ion cannon lol no

not if i "accidentally" donated them to charity!

(lol ya) so what is there to talk about with this war? maybe i should use my ion cannon lol no

Well, this war'll be conventional. Mostly. No WMDs, anyone.

what charity would take gas masks?

not if i "accidentally" donated them to charity!

How so?

I'll put them in a box labeled "GRAIN" and ship it to Africa!

I'll put them in a box labeled "GRAIN" and ship it to Africa!

And my customs people will approve? Everything is searched.

lol

"pretty big grain"
"ya looks like a mask meh let it threw"

lol

lol

"pretty big grain"
"ya looks like a mask meh let it threw"

lol

My customs people do come from kindergarten...

(Just kidding,. They go through college.)

LOL that gave me my laugh for the night

i still think it would be fun. Think of this:

I send one box away to africa.

In a gassing, all ur soldiers will be scrambling for masks, they then realize that someone (not saying who) donated 12 of their masks, so twelve guys are left sleeping and their comrades can laugh at them and poke fun at them. "Someone's too slow to get a mask! LALALALALALA" and then they can take incriminating pictures of them. and it will boost morale because everyone will have a good time (except for the unlucky twelve), and everyone will move faster because they don't want to be the unlucky 12.

see? it works out!

i still think it would be fun. Think of this:

I send one box away to africa.

In a gassing, all ur soldiers will be scrambling for masks, they then realize that someone (not saying who) donated 12 of their masks, so twelve guys are left sleeping and their comrades can laugh at them and poke fun at them. "Someone's too slow to get a mask! LALALALALALA" and then they can take incriminating pictures of them. and it will boost morale because everyone will have a good time (except for the unlucky twelve), and everyone will move faster because they don't want to be the unlucky 12.

see? it works out!

Hmm... Maybe...

Lol.

My customs people do come from kindergarten...

(Just kidding,. They go through college.)

our customs people don't seem to have! lol. by ours, i mean, america.

lol if you dont run faster you die? talk about presure

lol if you dont run faster you die? talk about presure

well, it is only sleep gas.

well, it is only sleep gas.

You know, I think I'll ask some people about that one. Seriously.

what? shipping gas masks off to poor children in africa who think they're getting grain?

ya its how you say odd

what? shipping gas masks off to poor children in africa who think they're getting grain?

No, the "unlucky 12" thing.

LOL. ok. i wonder wht ur responses would be.

LOL. ok. i wonder wht ur responses would be.

well, the troops officially like the idea. it'll happen every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

HAHAHA!!!! ok, so now you need to ship 12 gas masks to africa. and then give each barracks a camera and sharpies to draw on their faces.

HAHAHA!!!! ok, so now you need to ship 12 gas masks to africa. and then give each barracks a camera and sharpies to draw on their faces.

Done.

if you think about it, it's quite possible, non?

you have a coil with two magnets on opposite sides of the coil, the coild is magnetized, and the magnets around them revolve around the coil. on the backside of the magnets is a peice of rough material that is ground against something else producing a charge (negative) since the coil is negatively charged, the new charge goes away to the outer most possible part of the battery, which is the connectors of the circuit and they fly around the circuit powering it. They then circle around and go back into the insulator - turned conductor. This is a DC current, regulated by a diode.

But what makes the magnets move?

But what makes the magnets move?

the magnetic fields. if you have negative side magnet with a negative side magnet opposite of each other, and a negative coil, they are going to repel each other, so they will pushe each other in one direction and since it is a coil, the magnetic field will be constantly changing and going around the coil, so the magnets revolve around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around and around.

Any maps? I have no idea where I am landing or if I can even get to Icica...

And are you guys talking about a rail gun?

Any maps? I have no idea where I am landing or if I can even get to Icica...

And are you guys talking about a rail gun?

First page has the map.

But they're talking about an engine.

Thanks for the map. My navy will be moving in soon to encircle the northern coastline.

Ok thats cool, now who here is invading through Icica besides me? Im going straight for the Icica.

Ok thats cool, now who here is invading through Icica besides me? Im going straight for the Icica.

Well, I'm waiting for the bombing raid, then my tanks are rushing in.

Thanks for the map. My navy will be moving in soon to encircle the northern coastline.

We'll need help in the south too. And are your ships icebreakers? Icica is arctic.

Then I shall bomb, if it is ok with you.

Then I shall bomb, if it is ok with you.

Go ahead.

Ok, now judging from what you have said about Icica and that it has terrain similar to Alberta, which is flat then mountains blocking the capital, My units will have articware suits and I wont use as much tanks as necessary for fear of them freezing over. And BC warfare will be more difficult because of the cold weather. Has your capital been taken?

Ok, now judging from what you have said about Icica and that it has terrain similar to Alberta, which is flat then mountains blocking the capital, My units will have articware suits and I wont use as much tanks as necessary for fear of them freezing over. And BC warfare will be more difficult because of the cold weather. Has your capital been taken?

Nope, Geon is safe, but threatened. And you're correct. Icica is basically Antarctica.

Is there any foliage to use as cover around Icicia? Or is it just truly arctic?

Is there any foliage to use as cover around Icicia? Or is it just truly arctic?

A few evergreen trees here and there. And a couple forests of them.

So it's more like Siberia, being a tundra.

So it's more like Siberia, being a tundra.

Erm, yes, yeah, your'e right.

NOTE TO SELF: Brush up on climate terms.

Ok then after Sergant Sumter and the Gamecocks Bomb the units, Ill send in the troops. And Cravan, you can help protect me since you have fighter/attack jets. The Gamecocks are my Bomber/Fighters.

Ok then after Sergant Sumter and the Gamecocks Bomb the units, Ill send in the troops. And Cravan, you can help protect me since you have fighter/attack jets. The Gamecocks are my Bomber/Fighters.

Well then, my blitzrezieg of armor will follow.

Nope, Geon is safe, but threatened. And you're correct. Icica is basically Antarctica.

Isn't that an oxymoron? :confused:

Where's the best place to land troops as close as possible to the action? I don't have icebreakers.

Ok then after Sergant Sumter and the Gamecocks Bomb the units, Ill send in the troops. And Cravan, you can help protect me since you have fighter/attack jets. The Gamecocks are my Bomber/Fighters.

My Eagles are currently loaded out for a ground attack mission with cluster bombs. They do have four AtA missiles, though, and always have their chain-guns.

Isn't that an oxymoron? :confused:

Where's the best place to land troops as close as possible to the action? I don't have icebreakers.

Best place to land...

If you use aircraft: Right at Icica.

If you only have ships: Inside the bay.

I'll have some of the carriers and dreadnoughts go up as far as they can to provide air cover for our troops. The rest will defend the south.

I have roughly 17,000 troops dug in around Icica trying to repel Kraven. 3,000 more are being airlifted in from Navy.

Edit: What's the scale on that map?

I'll have some of the carriers and dreadnoughts go up as far as they can to provide air cover for our troops. The rest will defend the south.

I have roughly 17,000 troops dug in around Icica trying to repel Kraven. 3,000 more are being airlifted in from Navy.

Wait, Kraven only has... 2,500 troops. I got all of you here because we were going to invade him once my homeland is safe.

I suggest going for the slave states before heading for the hornet's nest.

Wait, Kraven only has... 2,500 troops. I got all of you here because we were going to invade him once my homeland is safe.

They're all paratroopers and Marines without much heavy armor though. I'll be able to pull them out relatively easily once/if Kraven is defeated.

I suggest going for the slave states before heading for the hornet's nest.

I agree.

I agree.

As do I. We go there first.

Ok, well then since Icica was the only one under Pythogrian rule, I wont send in the MAV.

Ok, well then since Icica was the only one under Pythogrian rule, I wont send in the MAV.

MAV?

But basically, Icica was mine, then Kraven took it, and now everyone's fighting for it.

MAV?

But basically, Icica was mine, then Kraven took it, and now everyone's fighting for it.

I made mention of this earlier in the post...think Metal Gear without the whole Nuclear missle thing. It is a Multienvironmental Attack Vehicle.

This is it kinda.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Metal_Gear_Ray.gif/300px-Metal_Gear_Ray.gif

I made mention of this earlier in the post...think Metal Gear without the whole Nuclear missle thing. It is a Multienvironmental Attack Vehicle.

This is it kinda.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Metal_Gear_Ray.gif/300px-Metal_Gear_Ray.gif

...

That thing is SO impractical... it would fall over!

Actually, that is Metal Gear RAY, not mine. But Metal Gear Ray has a tail for balance.

Mine has bigger legs and feet than that and is built like a TRex, only unlike the TRex, it is built for running and swimming. Instead of using hydraulics, I use a nanofiber cables that respond to electrical impulse anf commands from the pilot, similar to human muscles.

Actually, that is Metal Gear RAY, not mine. But Metal Gear Ray has a tail for balance.

Mine has bigger legs and feet than that and is built like a TRex, only unlike the TRex, it is built for running and swimming. Instead of using hydraulics, I use a nanofiber cables that respond to electrical impulse anf commands from the pilot, similar to human muscles.

Works then.

Is anyone going to stop me from landing?

Is anyone going to stop me from landing?

Lost Hills, and me.

Lost Hills, and me.

You guys stick a fleet in my way?

You guys stick a fleet in my way?

Lost Hills did, and my army/bunkers are on shore. My fleet will follow.

Lost Hills, what does your fleet consist of?

Lost Hills, what does your fleet consist of?

I had this all in a .doc file...

Oh here it is:

12X Overlord Class Super Dreadnought
18X Empire Class Battle Carrier
72X Paramount Class Air Defense Vessel
10X Argentine Class Galleon
36X Lord Class Heavy Battleship
16X Chieftain Class Pocket Battleship
63X Search Class Destroyer
43X Thunder Class Guided Missile Cruiser
20X Arsenal Ship
60X Hunter Class Submarine
24X Valkyrie Helicopter Assault Carrier
60X LC-2 Intruder Class

Well that's what $30 trillion in defense spending will get you. Subtract one dreadnought and three battle carriers, along with some assorted escorts, as they are heading north.

They are deployed in a defensive formation covering the southern coast.

Along with the ships there are 1,240 TSF-620B Xeon fighters, 1,101 TSF-622 Sparrow Multirole Fighters, 355 TEF-622 Xeon Electronic Warfare Variants, and roughly 450 Combined Support Aircraft that function in an AWACS, ASW, and cargo role.

The stats for the ships can be found on the DMG and Macabees storefronts. The fighters are from Tyrandis.

I had this all in a .doc file...

Oh here it is:

12X Overlord Class Super Dreadnought
18X Empire Class Battle Carrier
72X Paramount Class Air Defense Vessel
10X Argentine Class Galleon
36X Lord Class Heavy Battleship
16X Chieftain Class Pocket Battleship
63X Search Class Destroyer
43X Thunder Class Guided Missile Cruiser
20X Arsenal Ship
60X Hunter Class Submarine
24X Valkyrie Helicopter Assault Carrier
60X LC-2 Intruder Class

Well that's what $30 trillion in defense spending will get you. Subtract one dreadnought and three battle carriers, along with some assorted escorts, as they are heading north.

They are deployed in a defensive formation covering the southern coast.

Along with the ships there are 1,240 TSF-620B Xeon fighters, 1,101 TSF-622 Sparrow Multirole Fighters, 355 TEF-622 Xeon Electronic Warfare Variants, and roughly 450 Combined Support Aircraft that function in an AWACS, ASW, and cargo role.

The stats for the ships can be found on the DMG and Macabees storefronts. The fighters are from Tyrandis.

O.O

NOTE TO SELF: DO NOT BE ENEMIES WITH LOST HILLS!!!

Shoot I forgot to mention that I modified the ships a little bit. DMG approved it and the gist of it can be found in my R&D thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463913)

...not all that fearsome. You're incredibly top heavy, not enough escorts for your number of cap ships. I have 3 Super-Dreadnaughts and can match that..

...not all that fearsome. You're incredibly top heavy, not enough escorts for your number of cap ships. I have 3 Super-Dreadnaughts and can match that..

Have fun!

...not all that fearsome. You're incredibly top heavy, not enough escorts for your number of cap ships. I have 3 Super-Dreadnaughts and can match that..

No, they can't.

No WMDs, anyone.

aaah! Does this mean no Cyanogen Chloride, no Nerve gases whatsoever? Or are you talking nuclear scale weapons?

aaah! Does this mean no Cyanogen Chloride, no Nerve gases whatsoever? Or are you talking nuclear scale weapons?

None of it. None.

None of it. None.

damns you Pyth, grrrrr.

:P

damns you Pyth, grrrrr.

:P

Lol.

When Lost Hills is in a HORRIBLE defensive position, and top heavy, and I outrange him, etc, I'd say I can take him.

When Lost Hills is in a HORRIBLE defensive position, and top heavy, and I outrange him, etc, I'd say I can take him.

And he's backed by 500mm railguns, and my fleet?

And he's backed by 500mm railguns, and my fleet?
I'm nearly 200 kilometers away, your railguns aren't that great ranged.

I'm nearly 200 kilometers away, your railguns aren't that great ranged.

500mm railguns can go 300km, according to DMG.

hey Pyth, my guy got his funky ID card yet?

hey Pyth, my guy got his funky ID card yet?

By now yes.