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The Collapse of Torontia! Colonel Vader Tanakis flees the nation! - Page 3

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Stoddenia
08-11-2005, 00:48
Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to Stoddenia

Stoddenia can kiss our collective asses!

But Lord Amestria, is my assessment not correct? Have I not spoken the truth? Are you not simply out to ensure your own interests and any who present an alternative solution that your Nation cannot control can "kiss" your "collective Asses"? Is this not a correct summary of the situation?
Halberdgardia
08-11-2005, 00:48
Somerson swore silently from his hiding place in the darkness as he heard the Amestrians confront his McKagan counterparts, and slowly, silently drew his silenced 9mm pistol.

Son of a bitch, he thought, that's just my luck.

He considered walking out and trying to persuade the Amestrians to leave the McKagan soldiers alone, but neither verbal nor forceful persuasion would work in this case.

Bluff them, he thought desperately, as if the McKagan soldiers could hear him. You're provisional troops conducting a raid here...
The Lone Alliance
08-11-2005, 00:52
Statement:
We wonder if Amestria forgot the fact that Seattle has been under attack? The city is in no shape to have a meeting in.

-Lone Alliance
McKagan
08-11-2005, 00:52
Little did the Mckagan force know that there was at that moment a joint Amestrian/Torontian coastal patrol on that beach that night. 10 Amestrian Peacekeepers and 20 Torontian soldiers. They heard the splashes/waves made by the boat/men as Mckagan's came a-shore.

"Whose there? Under order of the Amestrian Occupation Authority and the Torontian Provisional Government we hearby place you under arrest for violation of the curfew!"

"What? We come in PEACE! We are here to take you to the great beyond!"

Major Charles Stewart loved tempting the enemy like this. It made hilarious drinking stories.

"Uh... we are... aliens! Yeah, that's it! We were here to sample the local female wildlife... erm... animal population. You may move along. Please do so."

At this point the sniper was already back in the boat, under the cover of darkness. Taking up a defendable position, he looked over the enemy position. The two SAW's spread out, one up the beach and one alongside the waterline. The rifles each moved up directed in front of the boat. Stewart stayed where he was, so his voice wouldn't change. The Marines had moved without being noticed, quietly and quickly.

"So... erm... yeah. Do not come closer! I have an STD and a fish. DON'T TEMPT ME!"

The Marines had the position, apparently. A well trained sniper and two SAW's were more than adequate to support the dug in riflemen in their marksmanship through thermal vision.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 00:53
Somerson swore silently from his hiding place in the darkness as he heard the Amestrians confront his McKagan counterparts, and slowly, silently drew his silenced 9mm pistol.

Son of a bitch, he thought, that's just my luck.

He considered walking out and trying to persuade the Amestrians to leave the McKagan soldiers alone, but neither verbal nor forceful persuasion would work in this case.

Bluff them, he thought desperately, as if the McKagan soldiers could hear him. You're provisional troops conducting a raid here...

The Amestrian Officer in charge steped forward. "What have we here! Surrender or we will be forced to use letal force. You are under arrest for violation of the curfew, illegal entry into Torontia, and the illegal poccession of illegal weapons!"

The Amestrian/Torontian soldiers take up firing positions. One preps an RPG.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 00:57
Statement:
We wonder if Amestria forgot the fact that Seattle has been under attack? The city is in no shape to have a meeting in.

-Lone Alliance


Seattle is at present secure and has many secure facilities.

-Amestria
Amestria
08-11-2005, 01:04
But Lord Amestria, is my assessment not correct? Have I not spoken the truth? Are you not simply out to ensure your own interests and any who present an alternative solution that your Nation cannot control can "kiss" your "collective Asses"? Is this not a correct summary of the situation?

Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authorities to Stoddenia

Everything we have done is to ensure the peace and future of a Democratic Torontia. We have no economic self-interests invested in this project (OOC: that is true, Amestria is losing money in Torontia), unlike Stoddenia which has gone around like a leach trying to suck those around it dry. We have compromised and formed a power shairing agreement with the Saint Fedski coalition. It is we who proposed the ceasefire with Red Tide, after they attacked us! So you have no idea what you are saying!
Halberdgardia
08-11-2005, 01:08
The Amestrian Officer in charge steped forward. "What have we here! Surrender or we will be forced to use letal force. You are under arrest for violation of the curfew, illegal entry into Torontia, and the illegal poccession of illegal weapons!"

The Amestrian/Torontian soldiers take up firing positions. One preps an RPG.

[OOC: Couple things I want to address here. One, he's about twenty yards away from the McKagan soldiers, and he's hidden in some thick nearby foliage; he's not just standing out in the open like an idiot. Secondly, he wouldn't appear to be a foreigner, because he's dressed like a Torontian; he is an undercover agent, after all. Finally, he's going to have a very good fake Torontian ID, as he's posing as a native. I'll grant the curfew, but not the illegal entry and possession of illegal weapons. Small sidearms couldn't possibly be illegal, unless your troops aren't well-enough-equipped to handle them, which I know they are.]
McKagan
08-11-2005, 01:09
While the Marines waited for the Amestrians response, the sniper took things into his own hands. He had clean shots on at least 15 enemy soldiers, but from that position he had also noted a man moving covertly down the beach.

He turned the laser on his rifle. Pointing it at the mans face, he moved the laser slowly down the beach, as if motioning him to hurry and get in the boat.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 01:12
[OOC: Couple things I want to address here. One, he's about twenty yards away from the McKagan soldiers, and he's hidden in some thick nearby foliage; he's not just standing out in the open like an idiot. Secondly, he wouldn't appear to be a foreigner, because he's dressed like a Torontian; he is an undercover agent, after all. Finally, he's going to have a very good fake Torontian ID, as he's posing as a native. I'll grant the curfew, but not the illegal entry and possession of illegal weapons. Small sidearms couldn't possibly be illegal, unless your troops aren't well-enough-equipped to handle them, which I know they are.]

I was not refering to your spy! They are addressing the Mckagan soldiers, they have no idea your spy is there!
Amestria
08-11-2005, 01:14
While the Marines waited for the Amestrians response, the sniper took things into his own hands. He had clean shots on at least 15 enemy soldiers, but from that position he had also noted a man moving covertly down the beach.

He turned the laser on his rifle. Pointing it at the mans face, he moved the laswer slowly down the beach, as if motioning him to hurry and get in the boat.

The commanding officer screams... "You have ten seconds to lay down on the beach and surrender or we open FIRE!" One of the soldiers is busy with a radio. "Central Command, we have raiders over, we have raiders (enter coordinates)."
McKagan
08-11-2005, 01:15
The Amestrian Officer in charge steped forward. "What have we here! Surrender or we will be forced to use letal force. You are under arrest for violation of the curfew, illegal entry into Torontia, and the illegal poccession of illegal weapons!"

The Amestrian/Torontian soldiers take up firing positions. One preps an RPG.

"What? Illegal entry into Torontia? You idiot! I live right over that dune! There's a Hilton there!... erm... yeah! Go watch my TV! I hear the Velvet Revolver concert is on!"
McKagan
08-11-2005, 01:16
The one of the soldiers catchs a hint of the laser. "THEIR HOT!" All thirty troops open fire with there heavy machine guns and the RPG solder fires directly at the boat!

Negative on that. Ignored. You're telling me that one of your soldiers saw a laser the size of the dudes head on a dime 20 yards away?
Amestria
08-11-2005, 01:18
Negative on that. Ignored. You're telling me that one of your soldiers saw a laser the size of the dudes head on a dime 20 yards away?

OOC: Its night and its a red beam (on top of it the Mckagans are heavily armed), it is possible! One of them looked over and saw it. Such things happen. You can't ignore! He did not see the position of the sniper, but they are opening fire upon the boat in a panic!

And the soldier was not 20 yards away, he was standing right next to him!
Stoddenia
08-11-2005, 01:26
Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authorities to Stoddenia

Everything we have done is to ensure the peace and future of a Democratic Torontia. We have no economic self-interests invested in this project (OOC: that is true, Amestria is losing money in Torontia), unlike Stoddenia which has gone around like a leach trying to suck those around it dry. We have compromised and formed a power shairing agreement with the Saint Fedski coalition. It is we who proposed the ceasefire with Red Tide, after they attacked us! So you have no idea what you are saying!

Well, you sure do have a warped view of this conflict.

Please allow me to remind you of what really happened.

ACT I
Our nation announces its existance. We are immeidately declared a target of Torontia who dispatches forces to attack us. We appeal to the world for help. The world responds, not, as it now seems, in the interest of protection of a new, free nation, but to settle old scores. This leads to Torontia's downfall, whereas apparently before, there was nothing compelling that would have ended the tyranny of the Colonel Tanakis. The President of Stoddenia is dispatched to Torontia to seek reparations, not punative reparations mind you, just some help in paying the bills he expects from your governments who offered help for their service. He did not seek to enrich anyone by these reparations. He justly felt that the war was not Stoddenia's fault, and so Stoddenia should not be required to pay for it. But he only requested HALF of the amount that would have been incurred from the war. Stoddenia would be willing to pick up the other half, specifically because too stiff reparations might cripple a new democracy. Nobody presented Stoddenia with a bill, so Stoddenia abandoned the claims. The President left the country when the shooting started, as he only had a mere three security personnel with him in country because he thought he was going to a meeting, not into the center of a war.

ACT II
When the Preident is safe, there is talk of war crimes tribunals. Since it is clear, as the last week has adequately demonstrated, that nobody wanted to work together to ensure justice for the downfallen tyrant, but seek only to push their own goals of territorial acquisition, Stoddenia volunteered to provide a neutral forum where war criminals could be tried. Never did we ask for any payment, we merely thought it would be convienient for people who were already at each others throats to come to a neutral area to ensure that their supposed enemy was tried fairly. They could have tried him themselves, but they were not able to accomplish this due to their threats of nuclear and chemical war against one another. It is clear that he was not the real target, the territory of Torontia was the first and only priority, for all parties that rushed to claim chunks of the land.

ACT III
In our last episode, it is clear that a shooting war is about to begin. Stoddenia provides one last overture for peace, please come to our neutral country and talk about your differences, outside of the warzone. For this very generous offer Fedski threatens us with invasion and you imply that we are only out for money. It is clear that you will not be satisfied until you are the one running everything, but how can you think that your enemies will come to terms in a non neutral discussion? If you were truely interested in restoration of Torontia, why have you and your adversaries carved up huge chunks of it and established puppet governments that are not democratic? Why have you established martial law? Why have you used Torontian territory from which to attack your enemies? you claims, Sir are facitious. you do not want peace, you only want territory. you want to control the discussions rather than allowing those others with claims just as legitimate as yours to assist in setting the agenda for the discussions. It does not matter to me into how many pieces Torontia is carved up any longer, because there is no Torontia any more, just a jumble of occupied districts each run by several governments for the purpose of one thing: ensuring that the results of the land grab are permanent.

ALL of the evidence in the record supports this claim. The only just actors in this crisis are those who have withdrawn their forces. Those who remained behind are only in it for themselves. You cannot contradict these facts, they are brightly highlighted.

At the very least, do not impune my motivations here. I am not the warlord who started this struggle, I am not the one who is still fighting it for whatever little scraps I can get, I am not the one who threatened a nation with invasion because I didn't like what was being said. I am not the one who is preparing yet another skirmish to defend what I have already taken.

Sorry, Amestria. You are that nation. Stoddenia is not. So please stop draggin us into the mud with you. We are spotless in this affair. We are not the leeches you accuse of uof being, or are we the vultures you demonstrate yourself to be one of.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 01:33
You've misunderstood me.

The laser was NOT aimed at a soldier! The sniper saw the odd looking man in the bushes (the HCIA spy) and began to try and motion him to the boat.

And how you would see the boat beats me. As it's painted black and sitting out in the wash AWAY from where the voice is coming from. Again, it's DARK, they aren't going to see very much.


There called flash-lights, ever heard of them! I did misunder stand you, I will edit the above post...
Red Tide2
08-11-2005, 01:43
OOC:You REALLY need to stop launching so FEW cruise missiles. They are not all that effective when launched in so few numbers.

IC:The Red Tidean radar posts in Spokane detected the launch. The cruise missiles were flying low, that meant the Laser-guided and IR-guided missiles on the MDM-4 SAMs would deal with them. The Tunguska-RTs would deal with any that got through

The MDM-4s, having a longer range then the fired, the first volley of SAMs downed 1/3rd of the Cruise Missiles. The next volley downed the 2/3rds of that. The final volley killed the remaining few quickly. And with that... the last part of the fighting was over.

Official Message to Amestria and Torontian Goverment From Red Tide Goverment
"Our representative will NOT attend a peace meeting in Seattle, General Murmansk is to valuable of a commander to risk sending him amongst semi-hostile forces! The meeting will either be held onboard the McKagan Ship or not at all. We will not pursue any more aggressive moves towards you if you reject our offer."
End Message
McKagan
08-11-2005, 01:46
The commanding officer screams... "You have ten seconds to lay down on the beach and surrender or we open FIRE!" One of the soldiers is busy with a radio. "Central Command, we have raiders over, we have raiders (enter coordinates)."

"I'll have you know, I am the King of Torontia! If you attack me, Global Jihad will DESTROY YOU ALL! Now please, just leave me alone. I like to sleep on the beach."

The sniper zeroed in on the commanding officer. Lasers off, he waited. If anything broke loose, he was dropping that commander the second the first round fired.

He had, in the few minutes he'd been concealed, gotten an encrypted radio message out, as well. Within 30 minutes, a STEALTHY Tactical Strike Bomber would appear above the battlefield. The Ku-25 was perhaps one of the most stealthy aircraft to ever appear in the IMAF. In all of it's deployments against large, fortified positions, it had remained unseen and then untouched by some of the best AA systems in the world. Because of the nature of Torontia, IE, being in a warzone, the AA systems were likely to consist of a few wired together launchers with radars. Regardless, it was alot smaller operation, and should remain unseen until needed.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 01:50
-snip-



Response from Amestria

Amestria will repeat what it has stated from the start of the official Occupation. Amestria has no designs on Torontian territory. We simply wish to establish a free and democratic society and then protect that society. Elections are scheduled one year from now. Martial law was put into effect due to the breakdown of the Torontian state. Martial law has led to the complete restoration of order in the Amestrian Occupation zone. Amestria came to Torontia with the intention of playing a bit part, but took charge as soon as things fell apart!
Amestria
08-11-2005, 01:52
The MDM-4s, having a longer range then the fired, the first volley of SAMs downed 1/3rd of the Cruise Missiles. The next volley downed the 2/3rds of that. The final volley killed the remaining few quickly. And with that... the last part of the fighting was over.

Official Message to Amestria and Torontian Goverment From Red Tide Goverment
"Our representative will NOT attend a peace meeting in Seattle, General Murmansk is to valuable of a commander to risk sending him amongst semi-hostile forces! The meeting will either be held onboard the McKagan Ship or not at all. We will not pursue any more aggressive moves towards you if you reject our offer."
End Message

Send a minor offical then, one empowered to speak for General Murmansk!

-Amestrian Occupation Authority
Leafanistan
08-11-2005, 01:56
Official Glorious Confederate Broadcast

Due to escalating conditions we announce our support for Red Tide, Halberdgardia, and McKagan forces. Any attacks will warrant an immediate retaliatory strike.

END

Encrypted Narrow Beam to McKagan Satellite

Decrypting....
Done..

Our ears are far and wide, and hopefully you aren't offended when we inform you that we've heard word of 'his' capture. Of course we need to know what is going on. And as allies we feel as though our support requires this data, we need to know of weapon's storehouses and other pertinent intelligence from 'his' capture. Especially if we have to conduct operations there. Thank you.

[END]

Encrypted message to The Lone Alliance, Halberdgardia, McKagan, Republic of Independent Montana and Red Tide

If the whole situation explodes, we'll have a special operations team within 24 hours notice arrive, 8 hours at least. You know how we operate, they will be dressed in commercially available equipment but you will know how to coordinate. We are sending more data now.

(........)

Done.

[END]

Glory Air Base, Frozopia

Several T-195 Skymaster IVs sat on the runway, designed for low-altitude high-speed paradrops they awaited their cargo.

The Sarge paced back and forth inspecting his men, they had been dragged out of bed minutes before but they were already suited up. Sure an operative was nodding off, but a quick smack and screaming at had him more alert than a starving dog that smelled bacon. Finally a well-kept man with just a rank and no insignia walked toward him and handed him the orders. Soon a couple of modified Humvees pulled up, they were the armoury variants designed for shipping weapons.

The Sarge read over the paper sighed and looked up.

"Men! As of Tonight you have been placed on imminent departure status by the Office of Naval Intelligence, which of course doesn't exist. You are to stay alert and try to be as prepared as possible for said departure. The current situation is in the former nation of Toronita. The governmental collapse and the involvement of our close allies has created issues. Currently McKagan, Halberdgardia, and Red Tidean troops are beginning to engage imperialist forces in Toronita. While we cannot be officially involved we can support covertly. If this covert support is broken, we are disavowing all knowledge of you, you will have no identities besides the false Frozopian passports issued. However we are not abandoning you. Each one of you carries a radio panic button. Push it and a spec ops sub will be waiting for you, but you need to get to the preset coordinates."

"Because of the situation you will not be issued Leafanistani standard weapons."

A few men groaned, the men and women next to them smacked them into line.

"You however will be issued AK-104s and MP5s with high-end commercial scopes and other commercially available equipment. For anti-armour you will be issued RPG-7s for close range and RPG-29s for longer ranges, you know your positions rocket teams. Your sidearm will be a standard Glock 9mm pistol. We've removed all markings and designations on them. None of these weapons can be traced to the DMG Military Industries from whence they came. Only a complex metallurgical test can reveal that, and even then the evidence is pathetic. Your fingerprints have long been burned off, and your Leafanistani passports and papers have been placed on invalid state for the time being."

"You will also be issued a cyanide pill, we know its crude, we know its wrong, but damned if any of you want to surrender you shoot them or take the pill. Go down fighting, but if you have to, take it. Another thing, you will be given 4 commercial Humvees, the standard insertion method will be low-altitude high speed drop under the cover of night and active RADAR jamming."

"You will link up with friendly forces and coordinate strikes and any forms of harassment until they are able to turn the tide of battle. We are working with the Republic of Independent Montana to ensure a quick escape route, they will enter the war if they feel they can ensure their safety. That is all, get some shut-eye."
Red Tide2
08-11-2005, 01:56
Official Response
"Hmm... thats an idea. We will be sending General Murmansks Aide, Colonel Ivan Emmetovich, to Seattle. He will be instructed as nessecary. Please note, although he is schooled in English, he is still so-so at speaking the language, he may have trouble with aphorisms and such... at least thats what his dossier says."
End Message
Amestria
08-11-2005, 01:57
"I'll have you know, I am the King of Torontia! If you attack me, Global Jihad will DESTROY YOU ALL! Now please, just leave me alone. I like to sleep on the beach."

The sniper zeroed in on the commanding officer. Lasers off, he waited. If anything broke loose, he was dropping that commander the second the first round fired.

He had, in the few minutes he'd been concealed, gotten an encrypted radio message out, as well. Within 30 minutes, a STEALTHY Tactical Strike Bomber would appear above the battlefield. The Ku-25 was perhaps one of the most stealthy aircraft to ever appear in the IMAF. In all of it's deployments against large, fortified positions, it had remained unseen and then untouched by some of the best AA systems in the world. Because of the nature of Torontia, IE, being in a warzone, the AA systems were likely to consist of a few wired together launchers with radars. Regardless, it was alot smaller operation, and should remain unseen until needed.

IC: "9, 10, FIRE!" The Amestrian troops and Torontian soldiers open fire with their heavy machine guns. The RPG is launched at the boat!"

In a nearby Torontian military facility alarms go off as signal of the raid is heard. Personel are loaded onto two attack helocopters, which take off!

(The Mckagans should hear alarms in the distance.)
Leafanistan
08-11-2005, 01:59
OOC: Where the hell did that bomber come from, tell me or I ignore? Also the Amestrian/Torontian militaries have set up SAMS and the Amestrian radar is still working just fine.

IC: "9, 10, FIRE!" The Amestrian troops and Torontian soldiers open fire with their heavy machine guns. The RPG is launched at the boat!"

In a nearby Torontian military facility alarms go off as signal of the raid is heard. Personel are loaded onto two attack helocopters, which take off!

(The Mckagans should hear alarms in the distance.)

OOC: Because my soldiers are still on the pad being fully breifed I can be there in 8 hours. Make it happen McKagan.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 02:01
OOC: Because my soldiers are still on the pad being fully breifed I can be there in 8 hours. Make it happen McKagan.

OOC: There is no more conflict between Red Tide and the Coaltion/Amestria. Peace talks will be held in Seattle and those who continue conflict will have to deal with Yallak (why do you think Red Tide agreed to the cease-fire offer...
Leafanistan
08-11-2005, 02:04
OOC: There is no more conflict between Red Tide and the Coaltion/Amestria. Peace talks will be held in Seattle and those who continue conflict will have to deal with Yallak (why do you think Red Tide agreed to the cease-fire offer...

OOC: Suspicious people wandering around a blasted warzone with commercially available vehicles and easily acquired guns. And advanced night-vision. Sounds like mercenaries to me, Leafanistan doesn't condone that practice. We have plausible deniability. No real way to get it back to me.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 02:08
Where the hell did that bomber come from, tell me or I ignore? Also the Amestrian/Torontian militaries have set up SAMS and the Amestrian radar is still working just fine.

OOC: Which means abosultely NOTHING. Radars work, but that doesn't mean they see anything. If you notice, when I extracted Tanakis, I said I had Ku-25's escorting him. I posted somewhere else that they had broken off and were lurking in the area. You will NOT see it easily. If you even THINK of knowing it's there before I attack (at least, you probably wouldn't see it afterwords), i'm calling godmod and saying the spy has been extracted.

IC:

The composite armor of the boat, designed to repel RPG's, did just that. With the launch of the RPG, the hidden sniper took 3 shots at the commander, who he had previously zeroed out. From that, he had clear shots on 14 other soldiers. Moving down the line, he snapped off shots on each of them. The SAW's began to light up, fairly well covering the other soldiers the sniper couldn't get. While the SAW's were supposed to pin the enemy soldiers down, they were getting fairly accurate after weeks of training. The SAW's were accurate, but the riflemen were death in these modern days. Stewart moved back onto the armored DREAD gun, and began to fire it's multi-thousand round-per-minute system into the enemy mass.

Thinking that was the most accurate thing on the battlefield was silly. As above the battlefield the Ku-25 Cobalt had rushed to the aid of the Marines, since IMAF and the MIMC shared a special bond. The bomber was carrying 8 smart(cluster)bombs. It dropped 4 of them on and to the rear of the enemy soldiers.

(OOC: At this point, time freezes [after your losses,] it's hard to say that the HCIA agent would just sit there during this, he would probably head towards the boat. Since Hal isn't around to respond, I don't want to have a war going on when his agent would probably just dash to the boat.)
Amestria
08-11-2005, 02:09
OOC: Suspicious people wandering around a blasted warzone with commercially available vehicles and easily acquired guns. And advanced night-vision. Sounds like mercenaries to me, Leafanistan doesn't condone that practice. We have plausible deniability. No real way to get it back to me.

OOC: It is not a blasted war zone... Yes, there has been conflict and the recent Red Tide attack but the coastal regions are secure and orderly. For your information there is over a million Amestrian/Torontian troops in the Coastal/Olympic pen. (and that is without counting the Saint Fedski coalition)...
McKagan
08-11-2005, 02:13
Encrypted Narrow Beam to McKagan Satellite

Decrypting....
Done..

Our ears are far and wide, and hopefully you aren't offended when we inform you that we've heard word of 'his' capture. Of course we need to know what is going on. And as allies we feel as though our support requires this data, we need to know of weapon's storehouses and other pertinent intelligence from 'his' capture. Especially if we have to conduct operations there. Thank you.

[END]


Almost 1 day ago Colonel Vader Tanakis released a message saying that he would cease all attacks should he be given simple exile. We didn't want him to fall to the imperial pigdogs, so we brought him in.

Currently our Marine Forces are trying to extract a HCIA agent to get him to a McKagan offshore cruiser. They force has been pinned down. Currently a high altitude bomber is raining down ont he battlefield with cluster bombs. It should be enough for a speedy extraction.
Leafanistan
08-11-2005, 02:15
Almost 1 day ago Colonel Vader Tanakis released a message saying that he would cease all attacks should he be given simple exile. We didn't want him to fall to the imperial pigdogs, so we brought him in.

Currently our Marine Forces are trying to extract a HCIA agent to get him to a McKagan offshore cruiser. They force has been pinned down. Currently a high altitude bomber is raining down ont he battlefield with cluster bombs. It should be enough for a speedy extraction.

Encrypted Reply

We assume our 'non-existant' team is not to be deployed?

[END]
Amestria
08-11-2005, 02:16
IC: The sniper downs the commanding officer. He falls mortally wounded. The sniper manages to bring down another five before they take cover. The remaining troops take cover, one screaming into his radio "RAIDERS RAIDERS HOT MEN DOWN!". The bombs miss a direct hit, striking just behind the soldiers positions, attempting to bomb 26 soldiers on a narrow beach without hitting your own forces being quite difficult. 12 are killed! The explosens are deafening and light up the whole beach. One soldier catchs a glimpse of the Hal. spy out of the corner of his eye and begins widely firing in that direction.

The two attack helocopters come closer and their prop blades can be heard by all. Sirens are also heard in the distance...

(OOC: Should we pick up here? Torontia has over 500 million people, so the coastal areas, even the most remote, are not barren and undeveloped. As Amestria is on high alert assistence is called in at the smallest feeling of threat).
Leafanistan
08-11-2005, 02:17
OOC: It is not a blasted war zone... Yes, there has been conflict and the recent Red Tide attack but the coastal regions are secure and orderly. For your information there is over a million Amestrian/Torontian troops in the Coastal/Olympic pen. (and that is without counting the Saint Fedski coalition)...

OOC: Idaho is still a blasted wasteland and then there is Independent Montana, we could operate from there. Besides, a highly libertarian nation next to a post-apocolyptic wasteland, next to a country falling apart. Sounds like a breeding ground for crime to me. They were probabaly mercenaries if you accused anyone.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 02:19
OOC: Idaho is still a blasted wasteland and then there is Independent Montana, we could operate from there. Besides, a highly libertarian nation next to a post-apocolyptic wasteland, next to a country falling apart. Sounds like a breeding ground for crime to me. They were probabaly mercenaries if you accused anyone.

OOC: For Eastern Torontia, yes! For the coasts, no, not with a million troops...
Red Tide2
08-11-2005, 02:22
OOC:Well... Spokane doesnt have any crime... at least not after what I did with it with those 3 Infantry Divisions and Consortium Agent Battalion
Leafanistan
08-11-2005, 02:25
OOC:Well... Spokane doesnt have any crime... at least not after what I did with it with those 3 Infantry Divisions and Consortium Agent Battalion

OOC: The other areas look iffy to me. Anywho, we are working with you!

Need anything done quietly, we can do it.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 02:46
The Peace talks between the Allies and Red Tide shall be held in Fort Weasley Harris Naval Base, Seattle.

(OOC: Link here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9899090#post9899090
Red Tide2
08-11-2005, 02:58
OOC: That 'guy' was inside a armored gun turret mounted on the boat. And no, he didnt RP your losses he just said the sniper shot at them, not that the bullets hit them.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 03:10
A reminder to those absent. Weeks have passed since Tanakis was rescued and flown out... Just so there is no confusion...
Amestria
08-11-2005, 03:44
And a firefight we were having.

The ability to get deep into enemy territory and strike at high value targets usually beats out infantry power though.

Then whats the problem? Anyway how far is Mckagan from Torontia (the issue of the bomber?). Lets go back and delete the OOC chatter and edit the offending posts and DO it right!
McKagan
08-11-2005, 04:08
IC: The sniper downs the commanding officer. He falls mortally wounded. The sniper manages to bring down another five before they take cover. The remaining troops take cover, one screaming into his radio "RAIDERS RAIDERS HOT MEN DOWN!". The bombs miss a direct hit, striking just behind the soldiers positions, attempting to bomb 26 soldiers on a narrow beach without hitting your own forces being quite difficult. 12 are killed! The explosens are deafening and light up the whole beach. One soldier catchs a glimpse of the Hal. spy out of the corner of his eye and begins widely firing in that direction.

The two attack helocopters come closer and their prop blades can be heard by all. Sirens are also heard in the distance...

The Sniper lays down his weapon, at least his rifle, and moves to the rear ammo locker of the small LSAS (that's what i'm calling this vessel now.) He heard the helo in the area, but he wasn't sure the Marines on the ground who were busy (now) supporting the SAW's by lobbing grenades at the enemy position. The Anti-Aircraft launchers he was using we designed to be shoulder launched, but in some cases they were layed down to give a much more stable launch. He had his squadmates covered. He waited. He could tell where the attack craft were, and the second they came into their firing range, he would come into his.

On "ground" level, the Marine marksmen were finished lobbing a total of 8 grenades at the enenmy. Now they were taking turns unloading the ammo BOXES from the LSAS. The SAW's were still OK on their original ammo, but if this was a prolonged engagement it would be LIFE OR DEATH for those SAW's to stay in ammo.

While one of the marksmen was make on the boat he made a note to Stewart. Stewart automatically directed the DREAD guns fire against the enemy troops nearest to the bush.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 04:13
Two more soldiers are killed by the garanade blasts. The soldiers respond with their own garanade attacks, throwing them either at the boat or in the direction they sense the enemy fire coming from... The chopper sounds coming ever closer...

(OOC: Please describe the "launcher")
Halberdgardia
08-11-2005, 04:19
Somerson knew an opportunity when he saw it. Keeping his 9mm at the ready, he got down in a crouch, keeping his head low to avoid incoming rounds, and made a dash towards the McKagan position. Twice he was fired at, but he was able to elude the enemy soldiers for long enough to dive into a McKagan foxhole. He looked for an officer.

"Don't shoot! It's me, your contact! Can we get the hell out of here?"
McKagan
08-11-2005, 04:21
(OOC: Disposable shoulder fired "missiles." Built in radar tracking that locks onto the target and directs the missile to the target. Similar to anti-tank rounds, only with less powerful, more agile missile.)

IC:

The grenade attack on the Marines was slightly injuring in relation to the forces objective. One of the riflemen took shrapnel to the arm, but was still mobile. More importantly, however, one of the SAW operators was forced to move on up the beach. This was bad in the sense that if he ran out of ammo he would be cut off for the most part, but good in the sense that it opened up more of the flank of the 10 enemy soldiers left.

As the helicopters got closer the sniper zeroed in on their position. Looking through the radar, he suspected he would be able to bring the first down with 2, and quickly jack another "shell" into the chamber, allowing for two more shots.

On the ground the riflemen began to make their offensive. Moving up towards the enemy, they aimed at several who had been exposed after the Marines were forced to move by the grenade attack.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 04:26
Somerson knew an opportunity when he saw it. Keeping his 9mm at the ready, he got down in a crouch, keeping his head low to avoid incoming rounds, and made a dash towards the McKagan position. Twice he was fired at, but he was able to elude the enemy soldiers for long enough to dive into a McKagan foxhole. He looked for an officer.

"Don't shoot! It's me, your contact! Can we get the hell out of here?"

Stewart, who had covered the agent for several minutes and on into his approach, unmounted and pulled his own 9mm pistol as he came off the minigun and ducked to meet the contact beside the armored boat. "Hell yeah! Get in the cabin and cover up!" As the HCIA agent moved, Stewart didn't even look to where he was going. He was immediately on the radio.

"SAW 1, fall back to LZ, Rifles 1 and 3, cover SAW 2! Rifle 2, to the boat!"

Just seconds later the ducking soldiers moved up. The person with the SAW mounting it in the front of the boat and then moving to the DREAD covered the Riflemans approach.

"SAW 2 and company, FALL IN!"

The rest of the units came diving back out of the burned out beach craters. Jumping into the boat and taking up various positions (including 2 grenade launchers,) they prepared to focus everything they had on the helicopters as the LSAS pulled away from shore.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 04:27
The helicopters deposit the two combat teams they have aboard before coming into view (precaution) and then suddenly emerge over the beaches ridge, blazing canon fire! The two combat teams proceed to climb up the ridge and take up defensive positions...
McKagan
08-11-2005, 04:35
The defensive soldiers that were just placed on the beach are ignored by the Marines aboard the LSAS, which is now pulling away from the beach. The helicopters speed, while amazing, became ultimately the downfall of the attack. Canon fire coming in over the boat, only a fraction of the shells impact aboard the vessel. Those that do crash into the side of it, deflecting and mangling the armor. Should the vessel have to deploy again without repairs, that armor wouldn't hold up against even small arms for long.

Nonetheless, the sniper turned anti-big-thing-over-us began his new job. He fired off two missiles at the helicopter he happened to be looking at when it crossed the ridge. Without checking it's outcome, he jacks a new shell into the "chamber." Repeating the process, he moves off his position to a more sturdy position as the boat begins to accerlate to it's 30+ knot speed.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 04:42
The soldiers on the ridge open fire with their small arms. The first chopper is broth down in a fiery explosion from which none of the crew survives. However, the speed by which the second round was fired combined with the growing distance of the boat and the rough seas produce a less then favorable result. The first missile hits the burning wreck that was the first chopper while the second impacts into the ridge just below the second, damaging it in the explosion, but failing to bring it down. The second chopper, still firing at the retreating boat, attempts to retake shelter behind the ridge.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 04:54
The boat accelerated, out of range of anything the sniper was willing to throw at the soldiers on the ridge. Most of their fire was inaccurate, which was acceptable at this point.

Then, it dawned on him. A small 6 man MIMC Force Recon team had killed 20 out of 30 of a hostile force! Not only that, but now he was considered an "ace" in the McKagan Sniper Force! With five kills (not to mention the helicopter,) he felt good about himself right now. This incident would definately make interesting drinking stories...

Inserting at 2400, it was now 0230. The long firefight had been a nice deployment for the team overall. They now had great trust in each other.

Stewart, for one, was happy in his overall performance. He had commanded the deployment of the troops perfectly, not to mention the fact they redeployed themselves after the grenade attack. Then, he pulled them out perfectly.

The LSAS, nearing the DESTROYER (sorry for the slipup earlier, it's no big deal, anyway), slowed. The Amphibious Recovery team was ready to recieve them. Being hooked by the small crane system pulled the LSAS up and over the rear doors. The Marines dismounted and put their weapons away.

Now a naval officer entered the bay. Walking to the HCIA agent, he offered to take him to the bridge where Robyn Downs would talk to him about the conference.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 05:17
Four Torontian F-16s are dispatched to patrol/scout the area around where the attack occurred.

(Back on the beach)

Another two choppers arrive as well as two armored jeeps. Bodies/evidence is collected and the surviving soldiers of the patrol interrogated.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 05:27
Back on Defiant there is a massive celebration. After the story of the Marine Stand passes around, the ship goes wild.

Currently Defiant holds 8 LSAS's and 80 MIMC's. With this porportion, the entier 80 Marines, in a fight, could take out nearly 300 enemy troops! This number is amazing, and the sucess of the mission is wired back to the Arizona Mountain Complex, where they begin to find other missions these Marines would be well suited to up and down the coastline.

As the sun rises, the Defiant has barely moved from it's position. No one will suspect anything from the Destroyer.

With morning comes futher messages.

To: All Parties Involved

We are still waiting for the response of various people's offers of a conference on this vessel. Is there any word on this yet?
Amestria
08-11-2005, 05:42
To: All Parties Involved

We are still waiting for the response of various people's offers of a conference on this vessel. Is there any word on this yet?

From the Amestrian Occupation Authority and the Torontian Provisional Government

Peace talks will be conducted in Seattle and are already underway. There is no need for Mckagan to get involved. The Defiant is hereby ordered out of Torontia's territorial waters.

-End Message-


As dawn breaks news of the attack reaches General Gran in Seattle. He orders coastal fortifications be erected, coastal patrols increased, the Torontian military be expanded, and that additional military aid be flown in from Amestria. It is reported in the News Media as an attempt by terrorists, most likely acting with the support of a foreign power, to infiltrate Torontia and carry out attacks on the civilian population.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 05:53
From the Amestrian Occupation Authority and the Torontian Provisional Government

Peace talks will be conducted in Seattle and are already underway. There is no need for Mckagan to get involved. The Defiant is hereby ordered out of Torontia's territorial waters.

-End Message-


From RMV Defiant

No. We are here on a peaceful observation mission. We will remain in our current position.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 06:02
From RMV Defiant

No. We are here on a peaceful observation mission. We will remain in our current position.

Two destroyers are dispatched to "escourt" the Defiant out of Torontia's waters.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 06:04
Two destroyers are dispatched to "escourt" the Defiant out of Torontia's waters.

"Fine then. We'll leave. Don't try to invade us or something. We were hoping you had enough land to hold you over for a week."

With that, a blue flag was put up on top of the ship. That alerted the Raptor, which had moved south, that Defiant was being forced out of the theatre. With that, it dove to it's maximum depth and passed under the destroyers, onward to an operating zone.
The Lone Alliance
08-11-2005, 06:20
Two destroyers are dispatched to "escourt" the Defiant out of Torontia's waters.
(OOC: Not trying to be mean but, Busted. P.S. TG McKagan. )
Amestria
08-11-2005, 06:20
OOC: Just to remind everyone, Torontia now has a power sharing agreement between Amestria and the Saint Fedski coalition. A council has been set up which now serves as the National Government in the new capital of Olympia.

Link Here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452846
McKagan
08-11-2005, 06:25
OOC: Just to remind everyone, Torontia now has a power sharing agreement between Amestria and the Saint Fedski coalition. A council has been set up which now serves as the National Government in the new capital of Olympia.

Link Here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452846

You do realize that Torontia isn't completely yours yet, don't you?

The player is still around. I've still got Marines....
Amestria
08-11-2005, 06:47
You do realize that Torontia isn't completely yours yet, don't you?

The player is still around. I've still got Marines....

OOC: Well as I am shairing power with several others, I am quite aware Torontia is not "mine". Nor do I have any intention of actually making it "mine".
McKagan
08-11-2005, 06:49
OOC: Well as I am shairing power with several others, I am quite aware Torontia is not "mine". Nor do I have any intention of actually making it "mine".

That and the fact you still have smell bands of foreign Marines popping up on your shores to destroy entier platoons.... yeah.... you have a few problems. :p
McKagan
08-11-2005, 07:19
RMV November Rain, the newest weapon in the McKagan Navy, neared it's objective.

The Illusion-class Frigate was designed on the same principal of the US DD(X) program. The concept of making SURFACE warships stealthy was new to most battlefields.

November Rain moved towards the Southern border of recognized Torontian sovereign waters. It had 2 127mm. (5 in.) guns, both hidden in "pockets" that hid them from radar/sonar. The vessel, painted an odd grey color, was hard to see with the naked eye. That, and the fact it supported 2 helicopters, made it a perfect platform for this mission.

With 30 Marines aboard, and the ability to beach itself, it could pose a large threat to the shoreline security forces that had failed so miserably in the last engagement.

It had just arrived on station a few days earlier, and thus far had spent it's time traveling up the Californian border scouting various positions. It's Captain had decided not to push Torontian borders yet, even in this semi-unprotected zone.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 07:36
General Gran sat alone in his temporary Seattle office. There was a knock on his door. “Enter!” Colonel Williams entered the office. “Sir, the man you wanted to see is here”. “Show him in”.

The soldier entered the office, his arm in a sling, the right side of his face bandaged. Gran stood up and walked over to greet him. “Tell me, everything!”

After the he had received thorough personnel briefing, Gran had one question. “Are you sure you were hit with aerial explosives?” He responded without hesitation, “Yes Sir.”

Gran dismissed him and called back in Colonel Williams. “Colonel, we were hit by a commando squad which had the assistance of a Stealth bomber. Are you sure are radar did not pick up anything?”

“Sir, it picked up nothing!”

“It was either Red Tide or Mckagan, seems curious that Mckagan would have a destroyer near the area were the attack took place… We already suspect them of sheltering Tanakis and they have attempted to undermine us at every turn… However, we have no proof of anything… yet.”

“Sir?”

“We need more troops, and more anti-air equipment. The Red Tide Fleet has left Torontian waters. Order Fleet One to begin patrolling the lower coast. Have several spy satellites assist them…. and send for the B-3 bomber…”

“Sir?”

“I know its only just entered service, but we need something advanced, something that can deliver a retaliatory strike without it being pinned on us… Have it loaded up with several N2 bombs… Use the encrypted channels and the latest codes.”

“Yes Sir!”

"We will protect this nation!"

"Yes Sir!"
Saint Fedski
08-11-2005, 07:38
To: All nations with ships in the Torontia Theatre of Operations
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and the Interm Government of Torontia (Seattle)
Re: Removal

Consider yourself warned. By the order of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski Naval Task Force (HESFNTF) all warships or ships carrying military equipment entering the Strait of Juan de Fuca must turn around and proceed back to the ocean. The Pugent Sound is controlled entirely by the Joint National Council of Torontia. An undisclosed amount of surface vessels and submerged vessels guard the mouth of the strait. All unarmed ships must request permission to enter the Strait of Jaun de Fuca. Upon a granting of permission, all ships shall be escorted to the port selected by the HESFNTF. The HESFNTF reserves the right to search any ship at anytime without any notice. Failure to comply with these rules will result in the loss of the violating ship(s).
Saint Fedski
08-11-2005, 07:44
Official Statement Released by the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski Occupation Authority and the Interm Government of Torontia (Seattle)
All requests for hosts of peace talks shall be denied by the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski Occupation Authority and the Interm Government of Torontia (Seattle). All peace talks and international conferences shall be held at Camp Weasley Harris Naval Reserve, west of Bremerton. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski Occupation Authority and the Interm Government of Torontia do not recognize any "government" aside from the Joint National Council of Torontia based in Olympia. All requests by foreign nations or "occupation authorities" for recognition of control shall be denied.
The Lone Alliance
08-11-2005, 07:52
Our patrol boat was able to pentrate the outer area without being intercepted, was that error or were you just expecting us?"
Amestria
08-11-2005, 07:57
Our patrol boat was able to pentrate the outer area without being intercepted, was that error or were you just expecting us?"

Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority

We welcome any Naval assistence the Lone Alliance can provide.
Saint Fedski
08-11-2005, 07:58
That was before the order came into effect. As of now, all ships within Pugent Sound must be declared. All warships, including submarines, must withdraw from Pugent Sound and the Strait of Juan de Fuca. The only ships with permanent permission to travel freely are those of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and The State of Amestria. All others must request permission before being granted the right to enter.

(secret ooc: submarine/torpedo nets have been deployed on either side of the shipping channel in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. The shipping channel is too shallow for a submarine to swim under a freighter as it enters. Sonar buoys have also been dropped to detect submarines.)
Amestria
08-11-2005, 08:23
Amestrian Military Movements

Amestria begins to fly in additional 20,000 reserve troops, Cruise Missiles and sonar buoys vie Jefferson County International Airport.
Saint Fedski
08-11-2005, 08:34
Public Announcement
In the town of Pangborn, 14 bodies were found nailed to the side of the local grocery store. They had been shot execution style in the forehead. It appears to have been committed by a foreign special operations team. Locals claim to have seen men clad in black gear with silenced weapons sneaking through the town. When the local sheriff and his deputy went to see what was going, they were shot and ditched in a field. Noises were reportedly heard around the homes of former supporters of the New Order. The wall of the grocery store is out of view from the houses, but is in perfect view of anyone in the town square. Anybody with information regarding this mass murder is urged to contact the local security garrison.
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"Good afternoon, Sergeant Ikbein speaking."

"Hello?"

"Hello. How may I help you?"

"I have information regarding the murders in Pangborn."

"Go ahead please. This call is confidential. Your name shall remain unknown."

"There were ten men, with big guns. They were like black ghosts. They didn't make a sound. I saw them pin the boys up on the wall and leaving them there. I went to report it to the sheriff and when he got there, he got killed. That's when the ghosts shot the boys and took off. A couple minutes later, soldiers showed up and begin searching the town. That's when they discovered the boys."

"Those soldiers that came? Do you know where they were from?"

"The uniforms said NSC. That's all I could make out."

"Ma'am, those were soldiers from North Saint Clair. They were searching for enemy infiltrators. Thank you for calling. Your information will be passed on." Ikbein hung up the phone and picked up the secure line to headquarters in Tacoma. He repeated what the informant had told him.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 10:01
Torontian Military Expansion (Provisional Port Angeles Government)

A public relations campaign/recruitment drive is launched, the goals to recruit an additional 200,000 Torontian Soldiers.

Amestrian Peacekeepers continue to salvage Torontian military equipment and planes.

An expansion of the hanger complex at Jefferson County International Airport is begun.


Non-Military Related Activities

Amestrian Peacekeepers/Torontian Soldiers begin rebuilding the damaged/destroyed areas of Vancouver.


Amestrian Fleet Stats

The 2nd fleet is docked in Port Angeles undergoing repairs. One Destroyer has to be scuttled and one battleship is permanently disabled (fixable if returned to Amestria).

2nd Fleet Final Stats

3 Frigates
4 Destroyers
1 Battleship
1 Minor Carrier
Yallak
08-11-2005, 10:26
OOC:Yallak, your message makes little sense, are you talking to my naval forces or my ground forces? If the former, they are leaving the area. If the latter, they are well inland and would have plenty of warning to an oncoming attack.

Your Naval - but i didn't really read anything before hand, i assumed you were still fighting and only skimed over a couple of the posts. If your leaving all is good.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 10:44
Secret Encrypted Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to the Yallak Fleet Command

We suggest that both our fleets prepare to launch joint air/missile strikes on the Red Tide forces in the interior should peace talks fail.

-General Gran
Yallak
08-11-2005, 11:05
Encoded Imperial Transmission
To: General Gran, Amestrian Forces
From: Yallakian Torontian Fleet

We can be ready to strike in a moments notice. If you can designate important strategic targets for us with your information then we can cripple their command if a first strike is required.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 11:11
Secret Encrypted Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to the Yallak Fleet Command

Target the International Airport at Spokane, without it the Red Tide forces would be helpless, unable to properly re-supply, and be at the mercy of our fighters.

-General Gran
Yallak
08-11-2005, 11:16
Encoded Imperial Transmission
To: General Gran, Amestrian Forces
From: Yallakian Torontian Fleet

Very well, the co-ordinates are locked. Should things turn sour, the airport will cease to exist.
The Lone Alliance
08-11-2005, 19:26
-Pacific Ocean-
A burst Transmission was recieved and 12 patrol boats departed for Seattle. A second transmission was sent on to an unknown location in Frozopia.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 21:51
RMV November Rain came to a stop. It was actually in Torontian waters yet. As of this hour, the only vessels in Torontian water was the three Submarines, minus the Destroyer that was moving out, but still there, nonetheless. If the Marine Frigate DID manage to get a Strike Team to shore and blow some stuff up, it would be nearly impossible to suspect the McKagan's after any future attack. The Destroyer was now out of range, no one knew of the submarines (which couldn't land big numbers anyway), and if the Frigate was discovered it would still appear to be out of range, that and the fact that it was a FRIGATE. The Amestrians had appeared to have ego's earlier, it wouldn't follow their usual ways if they admited to losing large numbers of soldiers to a Marine Force Recon unit they allowed to make beach head.

The next mission had been set, of course. This time an 8 man team would land. It included another rifleman that could support the added Mali-17 SAW that would be coming along.

The method of insertation would be simple. A small RHIB would insert the team in Mid-Oregon's coastline. From there they would stealthily advance up the beach into Torontia. Their mission, however, was not a RAID. They were supposed to be moving in and setting up a sniping zone. After units were lured into the zone, the Marines looked to inflict massive death upon them by utilizing grenade launchers, SAW's, and precision marksmanship.

The Commanding Major of the team went over the plan in his head as the RHIB crashes ashore well outside Torontia. Quickly the Marines moved the RHIB out of the water, hiding it up the beach. They would move into position overnight, and commence observation operations in the morning.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 22:16
Unit Movements

(non open, IE, you won't know these things, it's more of an OOC thing)

8 Man Marine Force Recon Team has stopped moving toward Torontia and set up small firezone for foreseeable future.

Illusion-class RMV November Rain slowly moving South along Californian border.

3 Sultan Class SSN's are still shadowing various submarines in Torontian waters, but are keeping distance from major fleets.

The Revolver Class Destroyer has moved out to deep ocean patrols duty.

1 Florida Class SSA has officially crossed into Torontias economic zone.

(OOC: The SSA is the newest submarine in my fleet. Basically, it's an SSBN, only instead of carrying large, city destroying nukes, it carrys 20 missiles with 35 warheads each of 2 kiloton Tactical Nuclear Warheads. It's really just an advanced Guided Missile Submarine designed to carry nukes. It can carry other stuff though. In this case it's not a mix of nukes and Fuel-Air warheads roughly equal in strength to that of Red Tides plasma things. That doesn't mean it's not a fearsome weapon, still. The missiles it launches its MIRV's into space with are VERY stealthy, and the MIRV's themselves are a few generations ahead of current US technology.
Red Tide2
08-11-2005, 22:23
OOC:McKagan, I have to point out that although it is theoratically possible to stealth a Ballistic Missile RV against RADAR, it is NOT possible to remove the heat signature caused by the rocket motors and the heat signature caused by the air friction as the warhead re-enters. Therefore, although he wouldnt be able to see it by radar, any sattelite capable of detecting a ballistic missile launch usually has Infrared heat sensors, as do most ships, tanks, some high altitude SAMs... you get the idea.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 22:29
OOC:McKagan, I have to point out that although it is theoratically possible to stealth a Ballistic Missile RV against RADAR, it is NOT possible to remove the heat signature caused by the rocket motors and the heat signature caused by the air friction as the warhead re-enters. Therefore, although he wouldnt be able to see it by radar, any sattelite capable of detecting a ballistic missile launch usually has Infrared heat sensors, as do most ships, tanks, some high altitude SAMs... you get the idea.

Of course.

But the idea of Stealth isn't to hide something permanately, only make it harder for the other person to see until it's upon them.

In this case, we've tried to reduce the INITIAL heat signature the missile has after launch. After just a few moments, anything that could see a normal missile will see it.

Aren't you guys saying most of the satellites over Torontia were destroyed anyway?

Edit: ANYWAY, the MIRV's aren't supposed to be THAT stealthy anyway. If a missile gets to low-medium earth orbit and has time to fire it's warheads off, I'd think it would be hard to stop them, anyway.
Saint Fedski
08-11-2005, 22:32
1 Florida Class SSA has officially crossed into Torontias economic zone.
what do you mean "economic zone"? If you mean near the major harbours you are mistaken, because the Strait to the sound has been blocked.
McKagan
08-11-2005, 22:34
what do you mean "economic zone"? If you mean near the major harbours you are mistaken, because the Strait to the sound has been blocked.

The Exclusive Economic Zone of a nation is usually it's territorial waters and then stretching BEYOND those for a distance. In actuality, if you thought you found a sub out there, it probably wouldn't even be a threat.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 22:34
8 Man Marine Force Recon Team has stopped moving toward Torontia and set up small firezone for foreseeable future.


They would move into position overnight, and commence observation operations in the morning.

OOC: I want to RP the landing...
McKagan
08-11-2005, 22:34
OOC: I want to RP the landing...

They're not landing anywhere near where you have forces, they landed WAY south of Torontia.
Amestria
08-11-2005, 22:38
They're not landing anywhere near where you have forces, they landed WAY south of Torontia.

OOC: The border crossing then... The border is still there, the fences, the guards and what ever other things Tanakis had installed...
McKagan
08-11-2005, 22:43
OOC: The border crossing then... The border is still there, the fences, the guards and what ever other things Tanakis had installed...

They're not there yet. I'm not going to move them yet. Don't worry, i'm not going to godmod something and say they magically get through it. You'll be given fair chance to stop them once I DO decide to move them.
Amestria
09-11-2005, 03:34
Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to the Yallak Fleet Command

Currently Torontia is having problems with the illegal entry of foreign craft into its territorial waters. We request the Yallak fleet join the Amestrian fleet in the patrolling of Torontia’s territorial waters. The 600 ships of the Yallak fleet are capable of setting up an impenetrable cordon, which would insure the safety of Torontia’s coast line against raids or sneak attacks by interests opposed to a peaceful, stable, unified, and democratic Torontia.
Yallak
09-11-2005, 03:43
Encoded Imperial Transmission
To: Amestrian Occupation Authority
From: Yallakian Torontian Fleet

Request approved. The Imperial fleet will now deploy in a blockade of the Torontian coast. We will be operating under the follow clearance code: 6589-5572-3108. Please issue it to your ships/planes and any shipping/aircraft that you have given permission to, to enter Torontia. Any ships without this code will be asked once to leave and if they do not comply they will be destroyed.
Only through complete and utter control of security can peace continue in Torontia.
McKagan
09-11-2005, 03:59
After the three SSN's, making up the Imperiums scout force in the area, began to notice movements in the Yallak fleet, they reported back to bring satellite imaging back to their availability. McKagan Satellites had been moved out of the area during the fighting and all, but now one, that looked like a peice of space junk, drifted overhead.

Within moments the Admirals suspected Yallak's fleet to be re-supporting the coastline, which the pathetic Amestrian troops had left wide open.

It was rather unfortunate that it would happen at this exact time. Now the November Rain would have to move closer to Torontia's waters to retreive the Marines. That would be done at night.

As soon as Naval Supremacy was lost, new methods of inserting fighters into the area were being looked upon. Inserting a CODEX team via a Stealth Blimp would be more than easy. Although getting them out would be harder.

Another problem was the inserting CODEX teams required special permission. As for now, commanders would stick with MIMC Force Recon teams.

Deep under Walker AFB in McKagan City, a Commander began to think....

There IS a whole continent behind Torontia...
Amestria
09-11-2005, 04:13
It was rather unfortunate that it would happen at this exact time. Now the November Rain would have to move closer to Torontia's waters to retreive the Marines. That would be done at night.
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OOC: We are talking about the coast-line of Washington. 600+ ships pretty much form an impenetrable barrier when patrolling an area of such size. A surface ship would not have a chance of breaking it once, let alone twice, without escaping notice...
McKagan
09-11-2005, 04:15
OOC: We are talking about the coast-line of Washington. 600+ ships pretty much form an impenetrable barrier when patrolling such an area of such size. A surface ship would not have a chance of breaking it twice without escaping notice...

Actually we're talking about the coastline of Oregon.

The marines have NEVER entered Torontia, and the Frigate is, and will be (when extracting them) in INTERNATIONAL WATERS.

Try finding support for anything else after attacking a FRIGATE in international waters for no reason.
Yallak
09-11-2005, 04:23
Actually we're talking about the coastline of Oregon.

The marines have NEVER entered Torontia, and the Frigate is, and will be (when extracting them) in INTERNATIONAL WATERS.

Try finding support for anything else after attacking a FRIGATE in international waters for no reason.

Thats only about 800 km (easily cover by my ships ranging from 150m to 750 m in length.
and ive sunk many a ship in (supposedly) international waters but i can still find aid for things - if your ship is suspected of carrying insurgents noone will take notice if its destroyed in IW. Edit: more ships will be onroute soon too.
McKagan
09-11-2005, 04:25
Thats only about 800 km (easily cover by my ships ranging from 150m to 750 m in length.
and ive sunk many a ship in (supposedly) international waters but i can still find aid for things - if your ship is suspected of carrying insurgents noone will take notice if its destroyed in IW. Edit: more ships will be onroute soon too.

Which is why i'm going to have them continue to move south until I feel safe with extracting them.

It's hard to suspect someone of being an insurgent in Washington when they're in San Fransisco.
Saint Fedski
09-11-2005, 04:27
Four Quickbreaker Class aircraft carriers, seven California Class cruisers and four Arleigh Burke Class destroyers escorting ten regular freighters, 3 large freighters (registered to the HESF Navy),, 4 regular tankers, three supertankers (one registered to the HESF navy) and one cruise ship (registered to the HESF Navy) have entered Torontian waters southwest of the Torontia mainland.
McKagan
09-11-2005, 04:33
South of Torontian Border

The 8 man MIMC Force Recon team, now cut off behind enemy lines, began to move to their objective.

They had moved slightly inland, at least off the beach, to avoid being seen by anyone who happened to wander south.

The pickup point was registered as just North of Oakland. There the Frigate would launch a Redhawk to pull the Marines out.

Marching would take a long time, but the Marines were prepared. The sniper mission they'd been sent on was supposed to be long duration, anyway. If all else failed, they could shoot something.
The Lone Alliance
09-11-2005, 04:41
(You forgot that parts of Canada were under Torontian Control before Torontia fell.)

Victoria, Torontia

Hundreds of Pounds of Supplies and equipment were arriving at almost the same time as around 20 Transport planes began to land nearby. One of the first on land was the commander of the Lone Alliance Torontian Command. General Lettys. "Hopefully we can get this harbor up to speed in a few days, I want the ability to know every ship, sub, plane, rubberduck, and soldier that goes through those waters." She said walking off.

Boundary Bay, Vancouver Canada.

As another group of Lone Alliance Soldiers began to set up a Naval base, an unmarked Supply ship approached and docked at the newly built docks. As it's Crew departed and began to unload the HarborMaster walked up to meet them. "What business do you have?" He began, a Crewman passed a note to the HarborMaster and Resumed his business. Upon reading the note the Harbor Master walked away and went to the most recently constructed building. After walking in he quickly delivered his message, "The first of the McKagan troops have arrived, two more transports are on the way, their most important supplies will be on the last." "Good, good, show them around, help them unload, and I'll tell Command."
McKagan
10-11-2005, 02:18
Several great things had happened in the last few hours. For the entier (clandestine) operation against the powers holding Torontia, McKagan had lacked a permanent base inside the theatre. Sneaking people into the nation was hard, and massive naval armada's were now patroling the coastline.


"Sir, nearing landing zone!"

It was a stupid message. General Powers, who was commanding this operation, stood on the bridge of the Frigate beside the Ensign who called out the distance. Powers felt like giving him a simple "I know that," but it would probably upset the Ensign, so he chose not to.

The Illusion-class Frigate refited for command and control measures moved up beside a dock in the Northern part of the newly claimed Lone Alliance province in Torontia.

The McKagan Army's 7th Expeditionary unit, consisting of some 10,000 men, had been given TLA APPROVAL to land here. The 4 massive Amphibious Ships and their escorts sat off the coast just a short while. The Frigate was being sent in to transport the command staff to the TLA's Generals to help coordinate the landings.

Powers ordered a Leiutenant out of the Frigate to talk to TLA officers on the dock.

"Where is the commander? We must coordinate the amphibious landing. It will be within 30 minutes and we DO NOT wish to leave 10 thousand Marines on the beach."
Amestria
10-11-2005, 02:34
Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to The Lone Alliance and Mckagan

The deployment of Mckagan troops on Torontian soil and Mckagan warships in Torontian waters has not been approved by the Torontian National Government. They will leave in the next 24 hours!


Secret message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to the Yallak Fleet Command

We believe Mckagan has carried out Terrorist attacks in Torontia, is protecting Tanakis, and wishes to sabotage the rebuilding of Torontia in order to return the dictator to power. In 24 hours, if they do not leave, we suggest that after a second warning, if they have not left, that we destroy them!
Amestria
10-11-2005, 02:39
Amestrian Military Movements

Travel restrictions are implemented between the areas of Torontia controlled by The Lone Alliance and the areas controlled by Amestria.

The Torontian Airforce and Amestrian fleet prepare to launch strikes against the Mckagan positions.
McKagan
10-11-2005, 02:41
Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to The Lone Alliance and Mckagan

The deployment of Mckagan troops on Torontian soil and Mckagan warships in Torontian waters has not been approved by the Torontian National Government. They will leave in the next 24 hours!

We are of no threat, we assure you. The force we are sending is under 10,000 troops. It lacks heavy artillery and/or air support, and the naval wing is under 10 ships, counting the amphibious assault ships. The heaviest unit we have is a 500 tank Armored Division, again, without heavy artillery or air support. If this force got out of hand, we would hope the nearly 1 million men deployed to secure the nation would be able to deal with them. Also, the only border these forces would share is one with TLA, they support US, and there would be no problems. Regardless of your opinion of us, we do not see the need for you worry. If you feel 1 million men cannot secure the nation against this small number, then we wonder how you expect to secure the nation from any insurgent attacks.


Secret message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to the Yallak Fleet Command

We believe Mckagan has carried out Terrorist attacks in Torontia, is protecting Tanakis, and wishes to sabotage the rebuilding of Torontia in order to return the dictator to power. In 24 hours, if they do not leave, we suggest that after a second warning, if they have not left, that we destroy them!

OOC: I will totally ignore anyone knowing I have Tanakis and/or have carried out attacks. You have no proof of either of those, and no reason to be against my nation deploying there.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 02:46
We are of no threat, we assure you. The force we are sending is under 10,000 troops. It lacks heavy artillery and/or air support, and the naval wing is under 10 ships, counting the amphibious assault ships. The heaviest unit we have is a 500 tank Armored Division, again, without heavy artillery or air support. If this force got out of hand, we would hope the nearly 1 million men deployed to secure the nation would be able to deal with them. Also, the only border these forces would share is one with TLA, they support US, and there would be no problems. Regardless of your opinion of us, we do not see the need for you worry. If you feel 1 million men cannot secure the nation against this small number, then we wonder how you expect to secure the nation from any insurgent attacks.

Your troop deployments are illegal and we know you are behind the recent terrorist attacks. Leave in 24 hours or face the consequences!

-General Gran



OOC: I will totally ignore anyone knowing I have Tanakis and/or have carried out attacks. You have no proof of either of those, and no reason to be against my nation deploying there.


OOC: Amestria suspects it, has no proof, but suspects it. It offered Yallak no proof and it needs no IC proof to make a charge. Amestria can make any charge it wants! You have hindered our nations efforts on the diplomatic front and they suspect it was you who launched that coastal attack (that stealth bomber did not magically appear). Plus, Amestria does not want you there, PERIOD!
McKagan
10-11-2005, 02:50
OOC: Amestria suspects it, has no proof, but suspects it. It offered Yallak no proof and it needs no IC proof to make a charge. Amestria can make any charge it wants!

WHY would you suspect it?

I'm going to have IC knowlege of secret messages and the conference if you can get a charge of me supporting terrorism out of me offering to provide you with a Cruiser to have a peace conference on. That's my only action in this other than originally claiming land. Again, you're just desperate to have a reason to keep me out, and it WILL be ignored.
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 02:52
No ships from the Lone Alliance or McKagen may travel any further south than Vancouver in open water. They may travel to Victoria along Vancouver Island coast but nowhere else. Anymore attempts at circumventing the naval blockade will be met with deadly force.
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Secret IC:
The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has sent two brand new North Saint Clair Nanticoke-class heavy carriers along with five Vittorio Veneto Class cruisers, six Iroquois Class destroyers and ten Halifax Class Frigates to an area 200km west of Victoria. Four Quickbreaker class aircraft carriers and the escorting ships are en-route to the area as well.

The First Operational Strike Fighter Wing (350 F-16s), the 3rd Operational Strike Fighter Wing (50 F/A-22 Raptors) and the 4th Operational Light Multi-Role Wing (100 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters) have been deployed to the various bases around Bremerton, Naval Station Everett, Widbey Island Naval Air Station, Anacortes Airport, and Arlington Municipal Airport. These aircraft are from the Republic of North Saint Clair and are under the command of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and the Interm Government of Torontia (Seattle).
McKagan
10-11-2005, 02:54
Your troop deployments are illegal and we know you are behind the recent terrorist attacks. Leave in 24 hours or face the consequences!

-General Gran


DART satellite photo's gave the MIMC an interesting show earlier. It appears 30 of your soldiers were wiped out by some Red Tiden raiders. Perhaps you do have reason to worry about a few more troops coming in.... Again, you worries are unneeded. If it would make you feel any better, we would allow you to send officers to the area to supervise and report back about our operations in the area. But if you are still making threats three ours from now, i'm afraid i'm going to have to request aid from not only the IMAF, but the International community.
McKagan
10-11-2005, 02:56
No ships from the Lone Alliance or McKagen may travel any further south than Vancouver in open water. They may travel to Victoria along Vancouver Island coast but nowhere else. Anymore attempts at circumventing the naval blockade will be met with deadly force.
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They do not intend to. We have chosen the least threatening approach possible, putting more "diplomatic" vessel south and the larger cruisers North.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 02:56
WHY would you suspect it?

I'm going to have IC knowlege of secret messages and the conference if you can get a charge of me supporting terrorism out of me offering to provide you with a Cruiser to have a peace conference on. That's my only action in this other than originally claiming land. Again, you're just desperate to have a reason to keep me out, and it WILL be ignored.

OOC: It was either Red Tide our Mckagan as far as Amestria is concerned, and since Mckagan had a ship in the area and refused to leave until threatened that raises red flags. There is the stealth bomber, and the Mckagan bases which it could be launched from. Also, if you read the thread, you will see Amestrian forces saw Tanakis take off in his plane. They did not know where he went, but it was somewhere close by (The Amestrian SS suspects Mckagan ever since the beach incedent). Besides, smearing your nation as supporting Tanakis is a good PR move.

And finally, as I said, Amestria does not want your nation here! Believing it just wants to undermine them only re-enforces that mentality!
Amestria
10-11-2005, 03:00
DART satellite photo's gave the MIMC an interesting show earlier. It appears 30 of your soldiers were wiped out by some Red Tiden raiders. Perhaps you do have reason to worry about a few more troops coming in.... Again, you worries are unneeded. If it would make you feel any better, we would allow you to send officers to the area to supervise and report back about our operations in the area. But if you are still making threats three ours from now, i'm afraid i'm going to have to request aid from not only the IMAF, but the International community.

As we said you are carrying out an illegal occupation of Torontia. The Lone Alliance did not have the authority to allow you to land. Only the National Government has that authority! You will leave in 24 hours or else!

-General Gran

(OOC: Also there is a post-Red Tide mentality. Red Tide was given a small base, flew in an army, and killed over 25,000 people in the Amestrian zone alone. Amestria is determined not to repeat that mistake and allow another possibly hostile power in.)
McKagan
10-11-2005, 03:05
As we said you are carrying out an illegal occupation of Torontia. The Lone Alliance did not have the authority to allow you to land. Only the National Government has that authority! You will leave in 24 hours or else!

-General Gran

(OOC: Also there is a post-Red Tide mentality. Red Tide was given a small base, flew in an army, and killed over 25,000 people. Amestria is determined not to repeat that mistake and allow another possibly hostile power in.)

Illegal occupation? That's odd coming from you. Anyhow, cease your threats of demise or I'll have to get on the phone with Tactical Command. There's easier ways to work this out than for you to throw waves at us. We're looking to restore order here, not cause a war. And if you attack a McKagan Expeditionary Force, the 500 thousand Soldiers taking over your province would most likely signal the start of a very large war. Red Tide forces launched at you from submarine's, not a few soldiers on a frozen island. These forces don't even HAVE offensive cruise weaponry like Red Tide forces used.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 03:08
Illegal occupation? That's odd coming from you. Anyhow, cease your threats of demise or I'll have to get on the phone with Tactical Command. There's easier ways to work this out than for you to throw waves at us. We're looking to restore order here, not cause a war. And if you attack a McKagan Expeditionary Force, the 500 thousand Soldiers taking over your province would most likely signal the start of a very large war. Red Tide forces launched at you from submarine's, not a few soldiers on a frozen island. These forces don't even HAVE offensive cruise weaponry like Red Tide forces used.

You have no permission from the National Government, the RECOGNIZED NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, recognized by Yallak, among others. Your presence is illegal, unwanted, unapproved, threatening, and shall be over in 24 hours... One way or another.

-General Gran
McKagan
10-11-2005, 03:13
You have no permission from the National Government, the RECOGNIZED NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, recognized by Yallak, among others. Your presence is illegal, unwanted, unapproved, threatening, and shall be over in 24 hours... One way or another.

-General Gran

Actually it is wanted. That's kinda... why we're here. We're acting under the joint command of The Lone Alliance. Perhaps you should take it up with them. We're merely feeling the place of soldiers they cannot pull together at the moment, as they previously stated.

Secret IC

10 of the Florida Class SSA's begin movements towards the international waters outside Torontia. Each carrying nearly 1000 (tactical) nuclear warheads, they were preped for mass launch against any hostile actions to the peaceful McKagan force.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 03:18
To The Lone Alliance

Tell the Mckagan forces to leave in the next 24 hours! It was illegal for you to give premission as to their entrance.

-Amestria
Amestria
10-11-2005, 03:20
Amestrian Military Movements

Amestria is dispatching 35 thousand Amestrian/Torontian soldiers to The Lone Alliance zone, as that zone is supposedly under-defended.
McKagan
10-11-2005, 03:22
The armored division, consisting of 500 tanks and 400 APCs, begins to spread itself out near the border with the Lone Alliance.
McKagan
10-11-2005, 03:23
Amestrian Military Movements

Amestria is dispatching 35 thousand Amestrian/Torontian soldiers to The Lone Alliance zone, as that zone is supposedly under-defended.

Public Response

Now see, we'll welcome those troops! Keep them on the border, WATCH us. You'll see us doing nothing more than patroling the streets and the beach!
McKagan
10-11-2005, 03:26
500 Ku-29 Vick UCAV's (Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle) are secretly moved to blue launch positions in Frozopia.

These planes, capable of nearly 20 G's and Mach 10, will be launched to QUICKLY fly to Torontia to conduct Air superiority missions, should hostilities break out.

(OOC: I told you. If you engage those, the chances are that we'll meet MAD. Mutally Assured Destruction. Between that and the cruise missiles, you'll lose the majority of the infratructure in Torontia. Those planes are DISPOSABLE, your pilots are not. Do you realize that wing outnumbers the TORONTIAN AIRFORCE. Please, reconsider. You'd kill 10 thousand soldiers, but you'd lose everything this thread has been about and it would become REALLY stagnant with you having to repeat yourself and all.)
Amestria
10-11-2005, 03:40
Amestrian Military Movements

As soon as the Amestrian troops arrive they take control and close all airports. They also announce that the Torontian/Lone Alliance border is closed until the Mckagans leave.

The Amestrian Second fleet is dispatched to establish a blockade of the area occupied by the Mckagan forces, not allowing any unapproved ships passed (ships of Mckagan or The Lone Alliance are not approved).

OCC: If the Amestrians can't force the Mckagans out then they will make their lives a living hell...
McKagan
10-11-2005, 03:44
The McKagan's, wishing to be self sufficient, have brought along supplies for months.

(OOC: Now this is progress. Yullak, for when you read this, all you need to know is that allowing this unit to stay here is saving multiple cities in Torontia. Don't make it too hard, please. Amestria, does your 24 hour claim still stand? I'm guessing no. Now, do you have troops in TLA's territory? If you do, you could pull out and set up a cold war type situation.)
Amestria
10-11-2005, 03:54
The McKagan's, wishing to be self sufficient, have brought along supplies for months.

Amestrian/Torontian troops in the (former?) Lone Alliance zone are busy doing one thing, closing it to the outside world.


(OOC: Now this is progress. Yullak, for when you read this, all you need to know is that allowing this unit to stay here is saving multiple cities in Torontia. Don't make it too hard, please. Amestria, does your 24 hour claim still stand? I'm guessing no. Now, do you have troops in TLA's territory? If you do, you could pull out and set up a cold war type situation.)

OOC: The 24 hour claim has not been with-drawn, but the troops being sent suggests it may have been quitely dropped... Suggests...
The Lone Alliance
10-11-2005, 04:02
-Vancouver Port-
"Alright that's the last of em, you go ahead and dock them." The officer said.
"We've purchased those 6 Warehouses for your use, do whatever you want with them, we're using the Instant Naval base construction so we should be ready in a few days."

-Lone Alliance official Response-
We needed some help, McKagan was a very valueable ally in the Frozopian war, we both had forces there, and they are the only people in this engagement that I have had confience in, besides Saint Fedski. Ever since Amestria began deploying obscene amounts of troops into the nation we have begun to feel that the Balance of Power is becoming uneven. We we have evened it.

Furthermore, even though Saint Fedski has placed a demand forbiding any further south than Victoria. We still will allow Amestria, Saint Fedski, Yallak, and Red Tide full access of the waters around Vancouver and Victoria.

-Former Canada\US border, Torontia, Division between The Lone Alliance McKagan occupied and the Amestria\Saint Fedski occupied zone.-
At one of the main guard posts a group of 12 Lone Alliance Soldiers and 20 McKagan soldiers waited for the eventual Amestrian face off. however they decided that the face off could wait until more important things could be done. "Two pair." "Ha Full house!" "Damn."
McKagan
10-11-2005, 04:02
10 Twin Springs Class SSBN's, each with 22 SLBM's carrying 30 warheads each (200kt warheads), move into position off the Torontian territorial claim zone.

While this is going on, the McKagan troops constuct WALLS around their territorial security zone, set up the massive portable AA field they brought with them, build food stores underground, and set up a defensive layout. Command bunkers are secretly constucted. It is obvious to only people on the inside that they are here for the LONG hall.

(OOC: Don't take the SSBN's as a "new" threat. They're just upgrading the MAD theory.)
Amestria
10-11-2005, 04:05
While this is going on, the McKagan troops constuct WALLS around their territorial security zone, set up the massive portable AA field they brought with them, build food stores underground, and set up a defensive layout. Command bunkers are secretly constucted. It is obvious to only people on the inside that they are here for the LONG hall.


OOC: That will take weeks (not for the walls or AA, the bunkers) and my troops can hear and see everything.
The Lone Alliance
10-11-2005, 04:06
OOC: That will take weeks (not for the walls or AA, the bunkers) and my troops can hear and see everything.
(OOC: That's upcoming plans, right now you see them playing Cards! Real scary.)
McKagan
10-11-2005, 04:08
OOC: That will take weeks (not for the walls or AA, the bunkers) and my troops can hear and see everything.

You can see them setting up walls! OH SHIT! :p

Coincidentially, you can't see through walls. Coincidentially, you can't see across the whole island.

Other than satellites, which could be subject to random DART attacks...
Amestria
10-11-2005, 04:12
-Lone Alliance official Response-
We needed some help, McKagan was a very valueable ally in the Frozopian war, we both had forces there, and they are the only people in this engagement that I have had confience in, besides Saint Fedski. Ever since Amestria began deploying obscene amounts of troops into the nation we have begun to feel that the Balance of Power is becoming uneven. We we have evened it.


What the hell, ballance of power? Torontia is a nation of 500 million people in which only 50% is properly occupied. Obscene amounts of troops indeed!

-General Gran
Amestria
10-11-2005, 04:14
You can see them setting up walls! OH SHIT! :p

Coincidentially, you can't see through walls. Coincidentially, you can't see across the whole island.

Other than satellites, which could be subject to random DART attacks...

They can climb nearby heights and look down into your base with special glasses genius...
McKagan
10-11-2005, 04:14
What the hell, ballance of power? Torontia is a nation of 500 million people in which only 50% is properly occupied. Obscene amounts of troops indeed!

-General Gran

You're telling me you need a 1:1 Civilian to Military ratio to keep things secure? By the power invested in me, I declare that your military needs better training! First you lose 30 marines to a few lightly armed raiders, then you feel unsecure with multiple million's of soldiers! Sheesh!

[Signed]
Angry Bob
McKagan
10-11-2005, 04:15
They can climb nearby heights and look down into your base with special glasses genius...

You're telling me a pair of classes can allow them to see hundreds of miles?

I can easily bust out some of the new sniper rifles and blind them, too.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 04:18
You're telling me you need a 1:1 Civilian to Military ratio to keep things secure? By the power invested in me, I declare that your military needs better training! First you lose 30 marines to a few lightly armed raiders, then you feel unsecure with multiple million's of soldiers! Sheesh!

[Signed]
Angry Bob

OOC: No, but it helps if you have 1:200 or 1:100 or less. There are only 400,000+ Amestrian troops in Torontia. And the Amestrian occupation zone has a perfect troop ballance...
Amestria
10-11-2005, 04:20
You're telling me a pair of classes can allow them to see hundreds of miles?

I can easily bust out some of the new sniper rifles and blind them, too.

Not the details, but they overal picture...
Yallak
10-11-2005, 04:27
Secret message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to the Yallak Fleet Command

We believe Mckagan has carried out Terrorist attacks in Torontia, is protecting Tanakis, and wishes to sabotage the rebuilding of Torontia in order to return the dictator to power. In 24 hours, if they do not leave, we suggest that after a second warning, if they have not left, that we destroy them!

Encoded Imperial Transmission
To: Amestrian Occupation Authority
From: Yallakian Torontian Fleet

What evidence do you have that supports these claims. Taking action would be a declaration of war - we cannot take that risk until their is sufficient proof.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 04:34
Encoded Imperial Transmission
To: Amestrian Occupation Authority
From: Yallakian Torontian Fleet

What evidence do you have that supports these claims. Taking action would be a declaration of war - we cannot take that risk until their is sufficient proof.

Reply from the Amestrian Occupation Authority

We can not provide that information at present. We have decided not to take military action anyway. I instead ask your nation to now block all Lone Alliance vessals as well as Mckagan vessals and condem the Mckagan pressence as illegal, being how it was not approved by the National Government and The Lone Alliance admits its there for pure self interest.

-General Gran
Amestria
10-11-2005, 04:38
Amestrian Military Movements

The Amestrian/Torontian airforce/fleet are no longer preparing for violent action against the Mckagan forces. However a state of high alert remains (but as it was in place before don't read much into that).
The Lone Alliance
10-11-2005, 04:40
Reply from the Amestrian Occupation Authority

We can not provide that information at present. We have decided not to take military action anyway. I instead ask your nation to now block all Lone Alliance vessals as well as Mckagan vessals and condem the Mckagan pressence as illegal, being how it was not approved by the National Government and The Lone Alliance admits its there for pure self interest.

-General Gran

Reply from The Lone Alliance Occupation Army
It was self protection that caused these actions not self interest. We have no quarral with any other nation other than Amestria. If Yallak enforces a blockade we will not attempt to destroy it, out of goodwill.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 04:44
Reply from The Lone Alliance Occupation Army
It was self protection that caused these actions not self interest. We have no quarral with any other nation other than Amestria. If Yallak enforces a blockade we will not attempt to destroy it, out of goodwill.

Amestria's Reply to The Lone Alliances Reply

They had no cause to fear for their safety or feel the need for self-protection!

-General Gran
McKagan
10-11-2005, 04:48
Amestrian Military Movements

The Amestrian/Torontian airforce/fleet are no longer preparing for violent action against the Mckagan forces. However a state of high alert remains (but as it was in place before don't read much into that).

McKagan occupied Torontia is now secured. Coastal artillery/missiles are in place, SAM sites are up (hidden and unhidden,) the armored division has deployed for defensive operations, and the infantry has set up a peremeter. Sniping positions are still prepared for long range engagements, but are starting to back down.
McKagan
10-11-2005, 04:58
OOC FYI, the Twin Springs class SSBN has been reclassified the Contraband class.

Have a nice day.

--M.A.D. Awareness Message
Yallak
10-11-2005, 05:14
From there waiting place in Stoddenia the Imperial Transports finally received new orders. General Forge listened as the encoded message came through.

SIC:

"General. Move your forces back into Torontia."
"As ordered. ETA 2 hours."
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 06:14
To: Amestria, McKagen, Red Tide, Yallak, Lone Alliance
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is really getting sick of all your bickering. We are here to rebuild Torontia and all you do is fight about who controls what. As of now, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and the Interm Government of Torontia (Seattle) withdraw all participation in peace talks, conferences, councils and any other activites that are conducted jointly with any other nation not under the direct control of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. Senior officals from Amestria and the "Provisional Government of Torontia (Los Angeles)" are requested to leave Olympia if they continue down the hostile and aggressive path they are taking. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is here to rebuild the nation. All other powers are seen as hostile with the intent of colonization and establishing protectorates. Once the nation of Amestria, McKagen, Red Tide, Yallak, and Lone Alliance back down from their war footing, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and the Interm Government of Torontia (Seattle) will resume multilateral talks, but until then, all talks have ended. The Armed Forces of Torontia (including all forces presently in the territory protected by the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski) are alerted to defence status C, short of firing on anything that crosses the border. Any attempt at attacking or impeding the rebuilding effort will be dealt with quickly and decisively.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 06:30
Roy Mustang asks publically, "Has Saint Fedski taken leave of its senses?"
Yallak
10-11-2005, 06:36
Official Imperial Transmission
To: Saint Fedski
From: Imperial Torontian Fleet

If Saint Fedski is no longer interested in working with the nations in Torontia, then it is obvious that you no longer care about bringing peace and co-operation to this nation.
If that is so you will have to be removed, if not, then we strongly recommend that you withdraw this childish statement before you destroy what little peaceful measures have been acheived so far.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 06:51
Amestrian Military Movements

In response to the threat of gas attacks made by terrorist groups, the Amestrian Occupation Authority issues all its troops gas masks.
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 06:56
To: Imperial Torontian Fleet
CC: Foreign Occupying Power
From: Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

Official Imperial Transmission
To: Saint Fedski
From: Imperial Torontian Fleet

If Saint Fedski is no longer interested in working with the nations in Torontia, then it is obvious that you no longer care about bringing peace and co-operation to this nation.
If that is so you will have to be removed, if not, then we strongly recommend that you withdraw this childish statement before you destroy what little peaceful measures have been acheived so far.

Sir, we have some issues with the international community right now. Firstly you have no right to the claim as the Imperial Torontian Fleet. You do not have a seat on the Joint National Council of Torontia and therefore are not a recognized occupying power. Secondly, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has not even threatened hostile action towards any occupying power of Torontia except when the safety of the Torontian people was at risk. Even when Seattle was attacked by Red Tide, no shots were fired by the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. Thus far, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has started the Joint National Council of Torontia initiative and a peace conference. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has also built a hospital, as well as reopened industry. At this moment, the Boeing plants, the Oil Refineries and the Nuclear Waste site are running at peacetime strength. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has remained neutral the entire time it has been in Torontia aside from when the best interests of the Torontian People were at risk. Peace is brought by talking in conferences not by threatening war. We will return to the tables when everyone else is done with all their childish bickering. Until then, resources and time are better spent concentrating on Seattle than trying to convince you of peace.
Yallak
10-11-2005, 07:12
Official Imperial Transmission
To: Saint Fedski
From: Imperial Torontian Fleet

Firstly, the Imperial Torontian Fleet has naught to do with your concerns. While we have no reason to explain ourselves to you I will for the purpose of maintaining what little patience we have left with you. It is the designation given to our fleet, which is now in Torontia. If our ships were in your nations waters right now then they would be designated the Imperial SF Fleet.

Secondly, unless the eyes of the Empire have been blinded, the nations currently in Torontia were just in peace talks, which are still proceeding quite smoothly now.

Thirdly, the Empire is the sole reason why Torontia is now under occupation by the council and not a corporate dictator, so do not dare to claim we have no rights or recognition as an occupying power. (OOC: your only their now because you somehow carried your troops across the ocean, past my invading fleet and invading transport ships and landed yourself. If you hadn’t magically appeared there would be 2 million Imperial troops there and all borders would have been shut to foreign intervention.)

Finally, your isolation from the other powers present will be “impeding the rebuilding effort” more than any arguments could.
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 08:07
The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski resends it delegation go the Joint National Council of Torontia. By making such a bold move, we hope to have drawn attention to the fact that the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is willing to take drastic actions in order to provide peace.
Yallak
10-11-2005, 08:07
Near the Torontian Coast

The Yallakian transports silently cut a way through the coastal waters. Now escorted by several destroyers from the fleet the ships entered the Juan de Fuca straight. In less than ten minutes they would land the first elements of the Imperial 4th Legion. Behind came another way of transports. They would land ten minutes later. And every ten minutes after another group would be put ashore.
The same process was happening at Hoquiam and South Bend too.

The Imperial Fleet, 60km off the Torontian Coast

Lieutenant Vaul stood on the bridge of the IYS Mavangor, overseeing the fleet in the absence of both the Emperor and his Captain. He had been granted a great honour by being allowed to assume command. A rank of Fleet Commander or higher was needed before an officer was given his chance to control a fleet operation. Honoured and yet nervous at the same time. If something went wrong he would be entirely accountable.
Suddenly Vaul jumped as the communications console began to beep.

“Lieutenant, were being hailed”
“Put it on the loudspeaker”

The bridge’s speaker came to life as the transmission was received.

“Captain Urian. This is Supreme Commander Dagon. Where is the Emperor?”

Vaul tensed at the voiced of the Commander, he who had just led the destruction of the Kraven naval assault on Xirnium.

“Sir. This is Lieutenant Vaul. The Captain is on land to attend a peace summit and the Emperor is still in Stoddenia”
“They left you in command?”
“Yes Sir”
“Then I trust that they are confident in your abilities. Well done Lieutenant, though I will be assuming command now.”
“Thank you, Of course Sir.”

The new fleet under Dagon’s command quickly began to deploy itself along the Torontian coast around where the original fleet was positioned.
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 08:17
The Yellak ships had yet to reach the Saint Fedskian Naval Blockade in the Strait of Juan de Fuca, but they were being watched on sonar and by recon flights.

Radio message to the Yellak Fleet:

"Unidentified ships: this is Vice Admiral Mike Bradley of the HES Sarnia. You do not have permission to enter the strait. Please turn around and await permission. I repeat you do not have permission to enter. Turn around await permission."
Xirnium
10-11-2005, 08:19
The High Ecclesiarchy calls on all parties in this present conflict to show restraint.

The High Ecclesiarchy
Amestria
10-11-2005, 08:21
The Yellak ships had yet to reach the Saint Fedskian Naval Blockade in the Strait of Juan de Fuca, but they were being watched on sonar and by recon flights.

Radio message to the Yellak Fleet:

"Unidentified ships: this is Vice Admiral Mike Bradley of the HES Sarnia. You do not have permission to enter the strait. Please turn around and await permission. I repeat you do not have permission to enter. Turn around await permission."

The Yallak fleet has permission to dock at the coastal areas controlled by the Provisional Government and the Amestrian Occupation Authority. Particularly Port Angeles and Vancouver.

-Amestrian Occupation Authority
Amestria
10-11-2005, 08:23
The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski resends it delegation go the Joint National Council of Torontia. By making such a bold move, we hope to have drawn attention to the fact that the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is willing to take drastic actions in order to provide peace.

The Amestrian Provisional Government of President Burns renews its claim as the sole legitimate government of the State of Torontia.

The Amestrian/Torontian delegation leave Olympia and return to Port Angeles.
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 08:24
ooc: the admiral recieved the permission, but is still waiting identification from the Yellak vessels.
Yallak
10-11-2005, 08:27
The Yellak ships had yet to reach the Saint Fedskian Naval Blockade in the Strait of Juan de Fuca, but they were being watched on sonar and by recon flights.

Radio message to the Yellak Fleet:

"Unidentified ships: this is Vice Admiral Mike Bradley of the HES Sarnia. You do not have permission to enter the strait. Please turn around and await permission. I repeat you do not have permission to enter. Turn around await permission."

OOC: It's Yallak, not Yellak. Anyway sorry, didn't realise you still had that blockade there.

IC:

Standard Imperial Transmission
To: Vice Admiral Mike Bradley
From: Supreme Commander Dagon

Attention. You will allow us passage. Any hostile actions will not be tolerated. This strait is not your territory to control. Blockading it without the authority of the joint Council by your own terms would be illegal
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 08:38
"You must identify yourself in order to recieve permission to pass. Once permission has been granted, you will be escorted to the port of your choice."

ooc: by identify yourself I mean say something along the lines of "This is Supreme Command Dragon of Yallak." then I will be all like "you have permission" and then its over and done with.
Yallak
10-11-2005, 08:41
"You must identify yourself in order to recieve permission to pass. Once permission has been granted, you will be escorted to the port of your choice."

These ships belong to the Yallakian Navy. Stand down and allow their passage.
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 08:43
Permission has been granted by the Amestrian Occupation Authority. You will recieve an escort of 2 cruisers to your destination.
Yallak
10-11-2005, 08:52
Permission has been granted by the Amestrian Occupation Authority. You will recieve an escort of 2 cruisers to your destination.

Thank you. There will be more ships to follow.

The Imperial ships continued on down the channel heading for Port Angeles and Vancouver.
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 08:56
Please ensure that they request permission before they reach the blockade. Thank you.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 09:12
Thank you. There will be more ships to follow.

The Imperial ships continued on down the channel heading for Port Angeles and Vancouver.

OOC: You do not have to go down the channel to reach Port Angeles or Vancouver, in fact Vancouver is no where near the channel...
The Lone Alliance
10-11-2005, 09:18
-Official Announcement from the Lone Alliance-
We are grateful of the rapid security force of the Torontian and Amestria Soldiers who were able to bring down the terrorists at the meeting, a full investigation on who ordered the strike, which I believe was an assassination attempt, is underway. We have no knowledge of the targets but we warn that we have lost control over the Seattle Drones, it is advised that you be aware of them. Our other message to Saint Fedski is that we declare full neutrality towards your recent statements. We will not bother you even if you try and bother us. Northern torontia has been mainly secured by now. We are now looking over the population census to locate possible New Order Members.

OOC: Vancouver is actually the top of the other Channel to the main part of Washington.
Yallak
10-11-2005, 09:35
OOC: You do not have to go down the channel to reach Port Angeles or Vancouver, in fact Vancouver is no where near the channel...

OOC: You can't reach Vancouver or Angeles without going down the channel.

IC:

Landing Zone Talon – Hoquiam

The first fifty transports rolled up onto the beaches, their armoured ramps smashing down into the sand sending clumps of it flying up into the air. Coming down from the craft the Imperial infantry piled out and secured the area. Officer’s hurried the soldiers out and up off the beach quickly so the transports could depart. Only minutes behind were more ships preparing to land, carrying battle tanks, IFV’s and MLRS.

Overseeing the landing Captain Lacoi made contact with the fleet.

“Commander Dagon. LZ Talon secure Sir”
“Excellent. General Forge will be landing at Port Angeles in minutes and LZ Ford is already being occupied. You have your orders Captain. Once the General is onshore she will take over the operation.”
“Yes Sir”
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 09:36
Re: Naval Blockade in the Strait of Juan de Fuca

The Naval Blockade has been moved further east inorder to fasilitate quicker, more efficient movement of ships from Yallak and Amestria to the small harbour in Los Angeles. But, a small force of the carrier HES Promenade and a a couple destroyers will be stationed in the area around Cape Flattery. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski asks permission from Amestria to set up a small airfield in Neah Bay to use as an advance fuel/ammo depot.
Saint Fedski
10-11-2005, 09:40
OOC: You do not have to go down the channel to reach Port Angeles or Vancouver, in fact Vancouver is no where near the channel...
Which Vancouver is everyone talking about? Vancouver WA is near Portland Oregon. To get there one has to go past Cape Disappointment. Vancouver BC is quite a ways north of the Strait of Juan de Fuca.
Yallak
10-11-2005, 09:44
Which Vancouver is everyone talking about? Vancouver WA is near Portland Oregon. To get there one has to go past Cape Disappointment. Vancouver BC is quite a ways north of the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

I'm talking about BC.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 09:44
-Official Announcement from the Lone Alliance-
We are grateful of the rapid security force of the Torontian Soldiers who were able to bring down the terrorists at the meeting, a full investigation on who ordered the strike, which I believe was an assassination attempt, is underway. We have no knowledge of the targets but we warn that we have lost control over the Seattle Drones, it is advised that you be aware of them. Our other message to Saint Fedski is that we declare full neutrality towards your recent statements. We will not bother you even if you try and bother us. Northern torontia has been mainly secured by now. We are now looking over the population census to locate possible New Order Members.

OOC: Vancouver is actually the top of the other Channel to the main part of Washington.

-Correction from Amestria-

The security force were Amestrian and Torontian soldiers. Amestrian and Torontian!
The Lone Alliance
10-11-2005, 10:02
I'm talking about BC.[/size]

OOC: Amestria wasn't able to remove it from my control, but TLA would allow Yallak into the Harbor.
Southeastasia
10-11-2005, 10:03
OOC: TLA, did you receive my TG?
Yallak
10-11-2005, 10:09
Encoded Imperial Transmission
To: The Amestrian Occupation Authority
From: General Lujayne Forge, Imperial Army

I am pleased to inform you that we have successfully landed our first waves of reinforcements into Torontia, totaling one hundred thousand men. Our efforts will continue day and night and we should have all two million men ashore within three days.
Yallak
10-11-2005, 10:11
OOC: Amestria wasn't able to remove it from my control, but TLA would allow Yallak into the Harbor.

OOC: If you control Vancouver then don't worry. Consider all my troops going into the channel having landed at Port Angeles.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 10:21
OOC: Amestria wasn't able to remove it from my control, but TLA would allow Yallak into the Harbor.

OOC: Amestria controls the southern Vancouver (in Washington).
McKagan
10-11-2005, 22:22
To: Amestria, McKagen, Red Tide, Yallak, Lone Alliance
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is really getting sick of all your bickering. We are here to rebuild Torontia and all you do is fight about who controls what. As of now, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and the Interm Government of Torontia (Seattle) withdraw all participation in peace talks, conferences, councils and any other activites that are conducted jointly with any other nation not under the direct control of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. Senior officals from Amestria and the "Provisional Government of Torontia (Los Angeles)" are requested to leave Olympia if they continue down the hostile and aggressive path they are taking. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is here to rebuild the nation. All other powers are seen as hostile with the intent of colonization and establishing protectorates. Once the nation of Amestria, McKagen, Red Tide, Yallak, and Lone Alliance back down from their war footing, the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and the Interm Government of Torontia (Seattle) will resume multilateral talks, but until then, all talks have ended. The Armed Forces of Torontia (including all forces presently in the territory protected by the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski) are alerted to defence status C, short of firing on anything that crosses the border. Any attempt at attacking or impeding the rebuilding effort will be dealt with quickly and decisively.

Official Response

Should you wish, you too would be allowed to send people to the McKagan held territory to report back that we aren't preparing to invade an area held with 2 million soldiers with 10 thousand.

We would also like to add that our claims ARE NOT permanent, and as soon as we feel the nation has been secured and the other waring parties calm down, we will be out. But considering we're being accused of things, and the fact that 6 seems to be greater than 30 in this area, it appears we will be here for quiet a while.
McKagan
10-11-2005, 22:34
Message to Yallak Forces in Region

We are looking to downgrade tensions in the area. We have, multiple times, told Amestria that we do not have hostile goals in the area. The Lone Alliance requested us into the area because of concerns that they would not be able to protect it as much as needed. On top of that, we are here to rebuild. But, there's a slight problem. The Amestrian's do not wish to allow any other TLA or McKagan ships into the area. This is a problem if we are to complete our mission of aiding the Torontian people. We request that you send a liason officer to the McKagan held area to negotiate how we would be able to move supplies (non military) through your blocked area.
Red Tide2
10-11-2005, 22:36
The Red Tidean Goverment had been watching the flurry of exchanges with rather large amusement. General Murmansk was kept up to date with information, which he did read over, although his mind was still on the danger his friend was in at that peace conference.

The Red Tidean Troops had long ago secured and(in Red Tidean words) pacified the City of Spokane and were now forming its (surviving) citizens up and assigning them jobs. The Consortium Battalion had established a Consortium Center inside what was the cities main police station. They were now enforcing the law, as were one of the three Infantry Divisions that had been sent in. The other 2 were withdrawn back into Spokane International Airport. From that point on, everything was REALLY quiet in the area Red Tide Forces was in.
Halberdgardia
10-11-2005, 23:01
From: General Lujayne Forge, Imperial Army

[OOC: Ah, a fellow EU X-Wing fan...]

Encrypted Transmission

To: CINC of McKagan Forces in Torontia
From: General Randall Laurenzi, CINCSAR

We've seen your people in a flurry of activity out of your bases around here lately. My intelligence people are telling me that they were being sent to reinforce TLA positions in Torontia. What's going on? Is the deal with Tanakis off? How will you get your troops out if the deal's still on?

End Encrypted Transmission
McKagan
10-11-2005, 23:13
Encrypted Message to Halberdgardia

Currently we are NOT planning to use Tanakis to attack Torontia based targets. We are aiding TLA in peacekeeping and/or security operations. Amestria is threatening to attack our positions in the nation, but under various Mutually Assured Destruction clauses, we scared them into standing down.
Amestria
10-11-2005, 23:44
The Red Tidean Goverment had been watching the flurry of exchanges with rather large amusement. General Murmansk was kept up to date with information, which he did read over, although his mind was still on the danger his friend was in at that peace conference.


Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority

In light of the fact there may be some concern over the Red Tide delegations safety, we would like to restate they are in no danger and can be contacted by their government at any time.
Amestria
11-11-2005, 00:13
Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles, Amestrian Occupation Zone) Launches anti-Mckagan anti-Lone Alliance Propaganda Campaign

The Torontian mass media, TV, radio, and newspapers, launch a massive verbal attack upon Mckagan and The Lone Alliance. Their military forces are described as "illegal invaders who wish to carve up Torontia into colonies." The people of Torontia are reminded that The Lone Alliance threatened to nuke Torontia into a wasteland and would have done so had it not been for Amestria. The attacks are beamed by TV and radio throughout the nation.

Secret Media Campaign (promoted by the Torontian Provisional Government, but done through unofficial media so it can not be linked back to the Provisional Government): Mckagan is secretly accused of sheltering New Order Leaders and planning to reinstall them over a Torontian puppet state*. The Lone Alliance is accused of still planning the nuclear destruction of Torontia and/or wishing to shoot all former New Order members**.

*They have no proof, it is just smear. The accusation ranges from non-descript high level leaders, to Tanakis himself, or an entire New Order government in exile.

**That’s aimed at the former New Order civil servants and soldiers who work for the Provisional Government and Amestria. They have been afraid ever since the Xirnium kidnappings and The Lone Alliance threats.


At the same time, a pro-Provisional Government pro-Amestrian/Yallak propaganda campaign is launched. Pictures of Amestrian Peacekeepers patrolling neighborhoods, repairing damaged buildings, helping children/the disabled and protecting Torontian from violence.

The Message
-Trust and Support the Provisional Government
-Trust and Support the Amestrian Peacekeepers
-Trust and Support the Yallak Peacekeepers
-It is every patriotic Torontians duty to oppose The Lone Alliance and Mckagan, who threaten Torontia with unspeakable horror!
McKagan
11-11-2005, 00:20
The only counter to the propaganda is video with graphs showing troop numbers and territory held by each side.

On the border between the Amestrians and the McKagan's snipers with Tactical Laser Systems (TLS's) move into security zones. These are a second layer of protection. Not replacing the old snipers, with live ammo who remain in position; these forces are set up to temporarily blind anyone who is determined to be a threat. They have been ordered not to shoot Amestrian soldiers, but will shoot anyone who approaches the massive FORTRESS that is beginning to take shape around the area.

Meanwhile, opinion polls are conducted across the territory to see how the civilians in the area view the McKagan's, with results expected within 24 hours.

(OOC: How many civilians and I dealing with in my zone, someone?)
Amestria
11-11-2005, 00:29
(OOC: How many civilians and I dealing with in my zone, someone?)

OOC: How large of a area are you dealing with? Remember Torontia has 500+ million people. Your forces are hold up in a fortress, not exactly the way to wins hearts and minds... Also troop stats are not going to calm public anger...

IC: In the Mckagan/Lone Alliance areas the Torontian National Congress party organizes mass protests. A campaign of non-violent resistance is launched, Torontian sit down on roads in front of Mckagan/Lone Alliance soldiers or vehicles. Crowds cant "Get Out, Get Out!"

Secret: A sabotage campaign is launched against Mckagan and the Lone Alliance. When there is an opportunity, tires are slashed and flour/wax poured in gas tanks. Rocks are thrown at Mckagan forces whenever they leave the fort. Those who support the Mckagan forces are harassed and threatened.
McKagan
11-11-2005, 00:44
(OOC: How about's you don't RP what the civies in my area are doing, unless they're your own agents, not the civies. They are MY civies, not yours. Desist.)

Oh, and it's not "when they leave the fort." Right now it's just a few walls, but i'm walling off the ENTIER few hundred square miles i'm occuping.
Red Tide2
11-11-2005, 00:50
Inside Spokane, the electricity was out as the powerplant and most powerlines had been destroyed. The Pro-Amestrian and Anti-McKagan propaganda never got in, what DID get in was the posters that the Red Tide Military was now flying in(along with their usual supplies). These posters were marked with Pro-Red Tidean Propaganda. These had the words such as, "UPHOLD THE LAW! REPORT CRIMINALS TO THE CONSORTIUM!" and, "REMEMBER, RED TIDES YOUR FRIEND!" and the like. These are put up on any walls that are avaible en-masse.
McKagan
11-11-2005, 00:58
(OOC: Hereby ignoring all mentions of why my civilians do. I'll accept what a few renegades or your agents that were already here do, but any support for them you have to RP getting in.)

IC:

With very earlier poll numbers coming in, the current McKagan approval rating in the area is 67%, but is sure to change up and down over the next day.
Amestria
11-11-2005, 02:00
(OOC: Hereby ignoring all mentions of why my civilians do. I'll accept what a few renegades or your agents that were already here do, but any support for them you have to RP getting in.)

IC:

With very earlier poll numbers coming in, the current McKagan approval rating in the area is 67%, but is sure to change up and down over the next day.

OOC: You are in a country of 500 million, a few renagades or radicals would well be several thousand to 20 thousand. You only have 10,000 troops so you dont' really have much power in the area. The "protestors" are being organized by the Torontian soldiers in The Lone Alliance zone (20,000+) and the Torontian National Congress Party, which had a pressence. i already RP'd the soldiers arriving and the Mckagans have no power to stop people from coming and going. You can't ignore my civi movements, even if only 12%-30% were opposed, those 12%-30% would equal a lot of people. Also, your ally threatened to nuke the country into nothing, which would not make your forces popular. Take into account the propoganda attacks and there would be protests by those opposed and it is not like the Mckagans have the manpower to stop them.

IC: The protests/non-violent struggle continue against the Mckagan/Lone Alliance pressence. A recent poll by the Torontian National Congress shows that 85% of Torontians in their area want the Mckagans/The Lone Alliance to leave and that 45% complain of abuses and theft by the Mckagan/The Lone Alliance forces.

OOC: Mckagan produces a poll, its foes can produce a poll. It does not matter how much of it is true as this poll is only for media effect.
Amestria
11-11-2005, 02:21
(OOC: How about's you don't RP what the civies in my area are doing, unless they're your own agents, not the civies. They are MY civies, not yours. Desist.)


OOC: Not all of them can support you, also why would those who would support Mckagan do so? Mckagan forces have not really done anything and have only just arrived under a cloud of hostility... But that aside, you can't ignore that there would be some opposed to Mckagan, and that Amestria, through its military/media pressence, would have the power to organize them.


Oh, and it's not "when they leave the fort." Right now it's just a few walls, but i'm walling off the ENTIER few hundred square miles i'm occuping.


By your own admission you are only occuping a really small area, an area connected to the Amestrian zone (though not controled) before your arrival. Little power to control civilion movement from my zone to yours what-so-ever!

IC: Amestria/Torontian Provisional Government sends organizers to the Meckagan/Lone Alliance zone to help local activists and those opposed stir up trouble and make life difficult for the occuping forces! Money is funneled to protest groups, there are horror stories told about what the Mckagans are planning to do, those who support the Mckagans are called traitors, est.
The Lone Alliance
11-11-2005, 02:46
Secret IC:
Lone Alliance Black Hand forces prepare for terrorist tactics against Amestria.
Supported operations are made to eliminate the Amestria controlled puppet Governmet. 30,000 Soldiers and equipment have landed at Anchorage and are moving towards Torontia by land route. Small Metal Boxs are secretly being planted in the McKagan wall while they are being built.
500 Black Hand Terrorists are being mobilized in secret. Supplys for Border Fencing is en-route.

IC:
-Lone Alliance Announcement-
Firstly we would like to clear up any rumors, the first is, the nation that convinced us to stand down our nuclear threat was, in fact, the The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. Second, we have no plans of establishing a full on colony in Torontia, in fact we have no clue on what we are going to do currently. Besides keep the peace. Any nation caught distrubing this peace will be considered a hostile. Furthermore, we do not consider the Interm government controlled by Amestria as the Legitmate Torontian Government. We do not consider our nation to have the ablility to run Legitmate governmnent for a prolonged period.

Also: Any Amestrian national caught instigating any Protest will be arrested and charged with spying. The punishment, if convicted, for spying is Execution by firing squad. That is all.
Halberdgardia
11-11-2005, 02:47
[OOC: McKagan, TLA, please check your TGs.]
McKagan
11-11-2005, 02:48
(OOC: Fine then, you want to play that way, we will.)

IC:

Inside the Amestrian occupied zone several thousand Torontia's begin to link up and form small chains of resistance to the occupation. These forces are confused as to what to believe. Under Tanakis they thought everything was propaganda, now they suspect the Amestrian's to be doing the same. During all of this, there was one bright light. The McKagan's who had kept them from being invaded for so long. The propaganda fed by the Amestrian's fuel the combatants into small scale recruitment. Because the Amestrian zone is so much larger, the number of insurgents is much larger.

Soon enough, support through money (which gets there just as easily and un RP'd as you got support into my zone) leaks to them, and they organize. Before long, small raiders are painting pro-McKagan images on trucks, only before stealing their tires and using them to set fires to buildings. The links to these forces are just as untraceable as the Amestrian aid to the McKagan rebels.

Meanwhile in the McKagan zone the forces remain calm. The Amestrian reports of mass rioting are hilarious to the 27th Infantry Division, whose soldiers still find time for the occasional card game. An amphibious assault ship (dock landing, not the large beachhead ones) is converted into a prison, and any of the rioters who resist charges to turn away and desist are locked up there. After close to 50 prisoners are locked up there, a video of them is digitally edited with the best software available to show them in a hotel like atmosphere. That video, along with one portraying McKagan soldiers as superhero's who save Torontian children from devils wearing Amestrian military insignia, become leaked to Torontian civilians on BOTH sides of the borderline. Sure enough, the approval rating moves up to a staggering 70%.
Amestria
11-11-2005, 03:32
(OOC: Fine then, you want to play that way, we will.)

IC:

Inside the Amestrian occupied zone several thousand Torontia's begin to link up and form small chains of resistance to the occupation. These forces are confused as to what to believe. Under Tanakis they thought everything was propaganda, now they suspect the Amestrian's to be doing the same. During all of this, there was one bright light. The McKagan's who had kept them from being invaded for so long. The propaganda fed by the Amestrian's fuel the combatants into small scale recruitment. Because the Amestrian zone is so much larger, the number of insurgents is much larger.

Soon enough, support through money (which gets there just as easily and un RP'd as you got support into my zone) leaks to them, and they organize. Before long, small raiders are painting pro-McKagan images on trucks, only before stealing their tires and using them to set fires to buildings. The links to these forces are just as untraceable as the Amestrian aid to the McKagan rebels.

The border between the Mckagan/Lone Alliance zone and the Amestrian zone are closed. The money dries up. There are few disturbences due to the large Amestrian/Torontain/Yallak troop pressence (2-3 million) as well as marital law having been in effect since the formation of the Provisional Government. Those responsible for the out-bursts are quickly arrested, tried, and locked up for sedition and endangering public order! President Burns calls them traitors who are trying to shoot Torontia in the back. Soon the Amestrian zone is once again peaceful and undisturbed.

An independent and accurate poll shows support for Amestria at 79% and opposition to Mckagan at 85% and 100% for the Lone Alliance. Only .5% showed pro-Mckagan views, and none showed any support for the Lone Alliance. However 60% believe the Provisional Government is not representative enough and there needs to be national elections. There is a 3% margin of error.


Meanwhile in the McKagan zone the forces remain calm. The Amestrian reports of mass rioting are hilarious to the 27th Infantry Division, whose soldiers still find time for the occasional card game. An amphibious assault ship (dock landing, not the large beachhead ones) is converted into a prison, and any of the rioters who resist charges to turn away and desist are locked up there. After close to 50 prisoners are locked up there, a video of them is digitally edited with the best software available to show them in a hotel like atmosphere. That video, along with one portraying McKagan soldiers as superhero's who save Torontian children from devils wearing Amestrian military insignia, become leaked to Torontian civilians on BOTH sides of the borderline. Sure enough, the approval rating moves up to a staggering 70%.


OOC: I did not report mass rioting, just protests! They were organizing protests and you don't have the man-power to lock them all up!
McKagan
11-11-2005, 03:38
All across McKagan, it was determined as time to show the real imperialists what McKagan really was. In order to completely destroy the Amestrian network of propaganda, it was determined that McKagan would pull out of Torontia. Amestria had shown themselves as RACIST, IMPERIALIST, NAZI SCUM, and the McKagan population didn't want to help them in rebuilding a nation. Instead, they would place the strain on Amestria's economy.

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Soon, two Type 527 class Dreadnaughts appeared off the coast of Torontia, out in international waters. Their escort, consisting of several destroyers, a cruiser wing, multiple ADV's, a fleet of Frigates; moved flanked out.

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To: Yullak Fleet Command
From: McKagan Dreadnaught Action Group
Subject: Extraction

We are here to remove our presence from the area. We hereby request your protection from the Amestrian's as we move in. We assure you, this will be the last action in this theatre. We also assure you that, one way or another, we are getting those troops. So please, make this easy and open up. Only our frigates will be crossing into Torontian water's with us. Again, make this easy and stop the loss of human life.
McKagan
11-11-2005, 03:41
OOC: I did not report mass rioting, just protests! They were organizing protests and you don't have the man-power to lock them all up!

I didn't report my soldiers stealing from Torontian's, either.

Regardless, i CAN use my soldiers for something. All the rioters from that post ARE either locked up or they ran away in fear.

Regardless, i'm pulling out.
Amestria
11-11-2005, 03:53
I didn't report my soldiers stealing from Torontian's, either.

Regardless, i CAN use my soldiers for something. All the rioters from that post ARE either locked up or they ran away in fear.

Regardless, i'm pulling out.

OOC: Those were lies, and German soldiers in Belgium cut off the arms of babies during WWI...


IC: Public Announcement from the Torontian Provisional Government

As soon as the Mckagan presence has been removed and Torontian soldiers are in control of the formerly Mckagan/Lone Alliance areas, martial law in the areas controlled by the Torontian Provisional Government or the Amestrian Occupation Authority shall be removed. Peace and stability have been restored (to the Amestrian zone), crime has been reduced, and there are no longer out breaks of violence due to pro-active preventative policies (disarming the population). Martial law, with the threat of Mckagan/Lone Alliance invasion removed, will no longer be necessary. The curfew will be reduced to between 12:00 am to 6:00 am.

Local and municipal elections shall be held within the next month in preparation for the eventual National Elections.
McKagan
11-11-2005, 04:04
OOC: Those were lies, and German soldiers in Belgium cut off the arms of babies during WWI....

OOC: What I meant is that the Commanders were telling my soldiers that you were reporting large scale rioting; and it generated a moral boost.

Regardless, this coldwar no longer became fun for me. I couldn't bring in anything new so it got old.
The Lone Alliance
11-11-2005, 04:21
Secret IC:
The soldiers in Anchorage recieved a sudden message, upon it they turned around and boarded their boats. In Victora and Vancouver troops rapidly boarded the assorted transports under the cover of darkness, In around 6 hours the full Lone Alliance Army had boarded and were on their way out. The Few remaining behind quickly went to work destroying any Lone Alliance Military Structures before pulling out by helicopter. A timed explosion set the huge northern wall into pieces

To: Yullak Fleet Command
From: Lone Alliance Occupational Forces
Subject: Extraction

We are pulling out along with the McKagans, we ask for full passage.

-Lone Alliance Capital-
After Verta, Terof, and Slavik returned from their meeting they addressed the Council.
"After this meeting what do you think of their ability of restoring the country?" "They'll suceed, but it won't last, it'll just be a blackmark on their failure list." "Alright you can go."
McKagan
11-11-2005, 04:44
[OOC: I'm just assuming that Yullak has no plans to stop us.]
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As the McKagan troops pulled out to the two massive Dreadnaughts, nothing was out of place. The armored division loaded into one vessel, the Infantry into the other. Small tactical assault helicopters landed on each one, the only helo's that had been based in Torontia.

As the massive ships began to pull away, smoke began to rise from the industrial and commercial sectors of town. The fires weren't set by McKagan soldiers, but by the Torontian's who didn't want to be under Amestrian rule again. Soon enough, the industrial capability of the city would be torched...

Without hesitation, the McKagan ships began to retreat from the area.
Amestria
11-11-2005, 05:00
[OOC: I'm just assuming that Yullak has no plans to stop us.]
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As the massive ships began to pull away, smoke began to rise from the industrial and commercial sectors of town. The fires weren't set by McKagan soldiers, but by the Torontian's who didn't want to be under Amestrian rule again. Soon enough, the industrial capability of the city would be torched...


Martial law is declared and all non-emergency workers/non-police officers are told to keep off the streets! The 30,000 Amestrian and Torontian soldiers move in to assist emergency workers in putting out the flames and to stop further arsonists. Those attempting to continue the chaos are arrested (or they try to arrest them). Those who attempt to violently obstruct the soldiers are met with letal force.

The Torontian Provisional Government dispatchs another 30,000 troops to the area.
Yallak
11-11-2005, 05:39
[OOC: I'm just assuming that Yullak has no plans to stop us.]

OOC: You shouldn't assume anything in an RP. It hasn't even been a day since i last posted so you should wait for a reply before moving on. And come on people at least write my nations name write properly - it's Yallak not Yullak.

IC: The Imperial fleet watched the McKagan ships depart - all weapons trained upon them. If they so much as hesitated in their departure then their fleet would cease to be.
The Lone Alliance
11-11-2005, 06:09
In case you missed the post because it was at the bottom of the page.

Secret IC:
The soldiers in Anchorage recieved a sudden message, upon it they turned around and boarded their boats. In Victora and Vancouver troops rapidly boarded the assorted transports under the cover of darkness, In around 6 hours the full Lone Alliance Army had boarded and were on their way out. The Few remaining behind quickly went to work destroying any Lone Alliance Military Structures before pulling out by helicopter. A timed explosion set the huge northern wall into pieces

To: Yallak Fleet Command
From: Lone Alliance Occupational Forces
Subject:Our Extraction

We are pulling out along with the McKagans, we ask for full passage.

-Lone Alliance Capital-
After Verta, Terof, and Slavik returned from their meeting they addressed the Council. "After this meeting what do you think of their ability of restoring the country?" They'll suceed, but it won't last, it'll just be a blackmark on their failure list." "Alright you can go."


OOC: You shouldn't assume anything in an RP. It hasn't even been a day since i last posted so you should wait for a reply before moving on. And come on people at least write my nations name write properly - it's Yallak not Yullak.

IC: The Imperial fleet watched the McKagan ships depart - all weapons trained upon them. If they so much as hesitated in their departure then their fleet would cease to be.
OOC: We're also leaving except unlike McKagan we only have Transports and Patrol boats.

IC: As the Last Lone Alliance ship left, the charges placed in the Former Lone Alliance base went off. everything that The Lone Alliance brought into the nation for their own use was destroyed, even the chain link fences had been rolled up and destroyed. The instant docks that were piled up and set aflame earlier that day were finally going out

Secret IC: However it wasn't a failure, over 25,000 Torontians had joined in the Retreat, many just wanting a change, some because they believed that peace could never come to the country. And around 200 were New Order Prisoners being taken to be put on trial. By the time the Fires went out and the census taken they all will be long gone.

-Lone Alliance Death Row Prison-
"Subject Case 39292." As the noise of the various statements were being held, Slavik, the President of the Black Hand of Nod and another person were conversing. "The thing was a sucess, over 100 cells have been established in Torontia by the Locals, we've captured key leaders, distracted them from the real problems, everything went perfect, except for the assassination attempt." The second person said, "Yes, if only I had been able to stay in the meeting room longer." "But we were never able to test the weapons, so now'll we'll never know." "For the charge of Murder in the First degree." You are sentenced to be executed by firing squad." "I know," Slavik said over the sound of the impending execution. "But how will we ever find out." The other said. Slavik pulled out the small 'tranqulizer' gun."ready." he aimed and shot at the prisoner, "ai.." The dart slammed into the prisoner and with a quick jerk the prisoner slumped down dead. "It works."
Southeastasia
11-11-2005, 06:19
OOC: TLA, did you receive my TG?
Well, can you please answer?
The Lone Alliance
11-11-2005, 06:26
Well, can you please answer?
OOC: Yes I got your other message. No I'm not ready to try and do that yet maybe tomorrow.
Saint Fedski
11-11-2005, 06:44
Public Address to the people of Seattle under Governor Sean Keane

Seattle is open for business. It is no longer declared a conflict zone. All trade will be resumed at midday and all civilian airports will be open to civilian aircraft at midday also. However, service in the Torontian Armed Forces is still mandatory. People between the ages of 18 and 40 must serve 6 months every two years in the armed forces. You will be supplied using the cache of weapons the New Order left behind.


Recent secret happenings: All top-secret. Just being said so if anything should happen, I don't get accused of godmoding.

Most civilian aircraft have been outfitted by Boeing with two to four 20mm cannons, a rack capable of holding to small bombs, and 2 missiles. This is the "private air force." Manned by regular people but controlled by the Government in Seattle.

Most buildings in Seattle have had their first floor reinforced with concrete, vitural bunkers under buildings. All new buildings will have a reinforced concrete base with blast resistant windows.

The Torontian Armed Forces have upward of 1 million frontline troops from Seattle and the surrounding area.

In the dead of the night, radioactive material from the Yakima area has been transported to a ship which leaves the harbour as part of a convoy. (The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has now gained nuclear technology and the material to make it.)
Amestria
11-11-2005, 07:03
Public Address to the people of Seattle under Governor Sean Keane

Seattle is open for business. It is no longer declared a conflict zone. All trade will be resumed at midday and all civilian airports will be open to civilian aircraft at midday also. However, service in the Torontian Armed Forces is still mandatory. People between the ages of 18 and 40 must serve 6 months every two years in the armed forces. You will be supplied using the cache of weapons the New Order left behind.

The Torontian Armed Forces have upward of 1 million frontline troops from Seattle and the surrounding area.


OOC: I am assuming that the one million troops are pretty much militia called up for duty, rather then the full time professional force the Torontian Provisional Government maintains.

IC: Torontian Military Developments (Port Angeles Government)

The recent recruitment drive resulted in an additional 250,000 Torontians reenlisting into the Torontian military (most of them being former soldiers before the fall or those attracted to the prospect of a stable government job). "Torontains do not need to be forced to defend their country" (President Burns).

An additional 27 fighter planes (F-16s) and 12 B-22 bombers have been salvaged for use by the Torontian Air Force.
Roman Republic
11-11-2005, 07:23
OCC: I'm going to quit out of this thread, because I'm confused as hell and it is too late for me to read everyone's post from the the very begining.
Saint Fedski
11-11-2005, 07:46
OOC: I am assuming that the one million troops are pretty much militia called up for duty, rather then the full time professional force the Torontian Provisional Government maintains.
No they're full time, the militias are "reserves" Pretty much unemployed people given jobs. How many Torontian soldiers do you? Just for a demographic note, the area controlled by SF contains a larger percentage of the population than the area controlled by AM.
Yallak
11-11-2005, 11:43
To: Yallak Fleet Command
From: Lone Alliance Occupational Forces
Subject:Our Extraction

We are pulling out along with the McKagans, we ask for full passage.

You have clearance to leave, but know once you are gone you will not be allowed back in.
Yallak
11-11-2005, 11:46
No they're full time, the militias are "reserves" Pretty much unemployed people given jobs. How many Torontian soldiers do you? Just for a demographic note, the area controlled by SF contains a larger percentage of the population than the area controlled by AM.

you know that for every soldier youve got you need about 5 to 10 times that number in logistics
Saint Fedski
11-11-2005, 14:18
and your point being?
Southeastasia
11-11-2005, 15:54
OOC: His point being that without logistics, your men can't fight. :rolleyes:
McKagan
11-11-2005, 22:31
OOC: You shouldn't assume anything in an RP. It hasn't even been a day since i last posted so you should wait for a reply before moving on.

I know, but everyone else was posting and I didn't want to have something happen while I had the troops preparing to pull out.

And come on people at least write my nations name write properly - it's Yallak not Yullak.


AHHHH! I WAS doing it right, but then someone else misspelled it and got me doing it!
McKagan
11-11-2005, 22:35
OOC: His point being that without logistics, your men can't fight. :rolleyes:

If he is deploying 1 million soldiers to Torontia, I could launch one of my 6 man Marine Raids and take over his nation!
Saint Fedski
11-11-2005, 22:59
OOC: His point being that without logistics, your men can't fight. :rolleyes:
I'm aware of that, I was just hinting that he may not be all too aware of the population of Torontia and the larger percentage of it begin in the SF controlled area (Seattle, Tacoma, Everett and Yakima are amongst four of the largest in Torontia). Also it takes less logisitical support when operating on home soil than it does overseas which is where the active duty Torontian Soldiers are. Also if Amestria could have 1 million + Torontians in the army controlling a smaller percentage of the population and his own vast amount of troops, It's entirely possible I can support 1 million frontline soldiers.
Southeastasia
12-11-2005, 03:28
OOC: Got that. BTW, your request has been finished. Go to PIW and ask for domestic production rights or two.
Amestria
12-11-2005, 10:50
No they're full time, the militias are "reserves" Pretty much unemployed people given jobs. How many Torontian soldiers do you? Just for a demographic note, the area controlled by SF contains a larger percentage of the population than the area controlled by AM.

OOC: I disagree, the area Amestria controls (the Olympic Peninsula, the entire West Coast and the BC area) would have a greater over-all population then the areas controlled by SF (as Amestria controls a far larger area). However the areas controlled by SF would have a greater population per square mile then any other area in the country, Seattle being the nations former political and economic center. Torontia under Tanakis maintained a 6 million man army, so there exists many people with military experience in Torontia.

Amestria has 400,000+ Peacekeepers and 850,000 Torontian soldiers (not counting the Air-Force, police, and emergency workers). These soldiers are not assuming a military poster (except on the Northern/Southern borders and the coasts); they are serving as Peacekeepers and stewards of public order. The most likely activities one would see an Amestrian/Torontian soldier engaged in are the patrolling of neighborhoods, operating checkpoints, distributing aid, and helping with rebuilding/repairs. They are not distant, they are a constant positive presence in the community (which explains the general lack of opposition among the public, those propaganda pictures showing Amestrian soldiers helping were very very real).


IC: Public Announcement from the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles)

Order has been restored to Vancouver and the BC area. Martial law remains in effect and a curfew has been implemented. Violators of either will be severely punished. An investigation has been launched to determine which individuals encouraged the brief insurrection and organized the mass assaults upon the cities public and private property. They will be dealt with to the full extent of the law.

Martial law has been lifted across the Olympic Peninsula and West Coast. Martial law will remain in effect in all border communities, North Vancouver (BC), the BC area, and South Vancouver due to continued unrest and rebuilding projects.

Preparations for the countries local elections are proceeding. A census is being held, political parties are being formed and a registration drive will be initiated upon completion of the census. Campaigning will be allowed to begin upon the 15th of next month.
Kahanistan
12-11-2005, 12:42
OOC: Haven't really done anything with the troops I had deployed here earlier (first page) so does anyone have a map or anything?

IC:
DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Kahanistan Republic Guard

The Government of Kahanistan would volunteer its troops in Torontia (down to 73 Imperial Marines and 1,951 Republic Guards due to casualties inflicted in the rioting, skirmishes with pro-Tanakis loyalists, etc.) to providing security at polling places and preventing terrorists from disrupting the upcoming elections.

Brig. Gen. Abdul Mohammed al-Bashir,
Kahanistan Republic Guard
Amestria
12-11-2005, 13:13
Official reply to Kahanistan from the Amestrian Occupation Authority and the Torontian Provisional Government

The local elections that are scheduled are taking place in the areas controlled by the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles). The Amestrian Occupation Zone is stable and secure with the present troop levels. There is no need for your assistance.

OOC: The Saint Fedski Coalition controls Seattle, Olympia, and the surrounding suburbs. Amestria controls everything else in Western Torontia. Both are once again feuding over whose Provisional Government is legitimate, but will once again form a power-sharing agreement because they have to, otherwise little progress will be made...
Yallak
12-11-2005, 13:25
OOC: but will once again form a power-sharing agreement because they have to, otherwise little progress will be made...

Because otherwise im going to whoop someones butt.
Amestria
12-11-2005, 13:30
Because otherwise im going to whoop someones butt.[/size]

OOC: Don't worry, things will get back on track. Mckagans stunt and Saint Fedskis conflict with Xirnium put everything on hold. With those now in the past the peace talks with Red Tide can go forward and the National Government can be reformed...
Yallak
12-11-2005, 13:43
OOC: ok good

IC: The Empire has now landed over three quarters of its soldiers and have moved up and occupied several more central towns and cities - namely Centralia and Shelton (assuming they are not in SF lands). The remaining Imperial forces will be ashore before nightfall.
Amestria
12-11-2005, 13:50
From the Amestrian Occupation Authority to the Empire of Yallak's Occupation Authority

We strongly suggest your forces move into the interior as soon as possible, as there is currently a dearth of troops in the East and an unstable border with the anarchic region Idaho. The West is currently secure and further troops shall soon arrive from Amestria

-General Gran

(mean-while)

The Amestrian 3rd Fleet arrives but finds itself redundant due to Yallak’s fleet. It docks at Port Angeles,

Fleet Stats
1 Super carrier
2 Battleships
7 Destroyers
12 Frigates
Saint Fedski
12-11-2005, 17:03
IC: The Empire has now landed over three quarters of its soldiers and have moved up and occupied several more central towns and cities - namely Centralia and Shelton (assuming they are not in SF lands). The remaining Imperial forces will be ashore before nightfall.
To find out what SF hold loosely, there's a post a couple pages back giving a link to a site I made devoted to Torontia. It shows major population centers, airports, ports, and militart bases. It's actually an operational map (secret maybe?) that Gen. MAximus Obliqus has been using to keep track of the situation.
The Lone Alliance
12-11-2005, 19:33
(OOC: This is probility going to be my last post but I just wanted to discribe the great lengths that went through to ruin the Amestrians taking the TLA bases)

-Victoria-
As the first troops entered the former Lone Alliance base, a startling sight was seen, every single newly constructed TLA building had been carefully and painstakingly bashed full of holes from sledgeehammers and grenades, every lightbulb in the base had been shot out and left in their sockets, The Fridge had been left off and wide open so the food was spoiling. All the MREs had been given to the Torontians on the days that the troops left, Of the vehicles left behind, their tires were shot out, the engine block filled with molten Aluminum and suger poured in the gas tank. The same could be said in all other Lone Alliance constructed Bases.
McKagan
13-11-2005, 00:11
OOC: I didn't really take over that much for long enough to do much, but I did have my soldiers supply locals with enough equipment to start a rather LARGE industrial fire that will spread to other parts of the city and be a real BITCH to put out.
Amestria
13-11-2005, 07:02
OOC: And a lot of those locals who where involved in the fire are going to disappear and never be heard from again.

-Victoria-
The Amestrian troops look upon the former Lone Alliances bases with other disgust. It is quickly decided by the command that it would be cheaper just to bulldoze everything after inspecting them for traps and IED's.


-BC Area-

The fires extinguished and martial law in effect, things finally calm down. A regional government led by the Torontian National Congress Party is established in Vancouver and Victoria.

A general search of all those involved in the violence is announced. A military tribunal has been set up to hear the cases of those rounded up in the government sweeps. In 24 hours, they convict 215 for endangering the public order and committing arson. They are sentenced to 20 years in prison with no chance of parole. Another 20 are convicted for leading an insurrection against the Torontian State and Treason. They are sentenced to death by hanging, the sentences carried out in secret. Their bodies are cremated and the ashes sent to their closest relatives by mail.

The Amestrian/Torontian Military, with cooperation from local police, begin a house-to-house confiscation of all firearms.
The Black Hand of Nod
13-11-2005, 09:34
OOC: You think I was done. You gave me the idea with the house to house sweep.

-Vancouver-
Group: Black Hand Trained Torontia Terrorist Cell number #33 and #34.
(Out of 100)

The two Five men group sat in the second floor of one the old apartment houses. The ten terrorists had set up this location well, but it seems the enemy was at their doorstep. Possibly because one of the Arsonists might have somehow known of them or that the fact that the owner of the apartment was noted for being an activist. While 6 of them were armed with M1 Rifles, 3 were armed with AR-550s, the final was just armed with a .45 pistol. However he held the firing pins for the claymores on the first floor. "Alright people," he whispered, "They're about to enter, You four get up to the third floor and be ready with the grenades for any armor that arrives." The four nodded and departed, carrying their rifles. He turned towards one of the ones armed with a AR-550. "I want you to crouch by the door that leads to the stairs once we're done with the claymores, you put down fire to that doorway, you, "He pointed to another with an AR-550 , "Get behind him and when he's out you open fire, keep switching until I give the signal." Finally he turned to the other two rifle armed ones, both had scopes on theirs. "Get up to the roof and look out for any aircraft." "Remember we have to time this right, two minutes max before we bail fallback to station twelve."

*Knock*

"Open up this is a search ordered by the Torontian Provisional Government," The Torontian soldier said, while two Amestrians and another Torontian soldier stood somewhat behind. More stood in the road. "The doors locked," the soldier said to the Amestrian. "Then kick it open!" "Yes of course sir." The Torontian Soldier with a quick shove broke the lock on the door opening it...
To see two Claymore mines facing the doorway, "OH SH..." He said as the Claymores exploded into the doorway.
Thusly the Second Torontian Insurrection had begun.
Stoddenia
13-11-2005, 10:15
*Television Signals across the world are interrupted by a test pattern, followed by a set of titles and a female commentator's voice: "We interrupt your programs to broadcast a message from the President of the United Socialist States of Stoddenia."*

*The President of Stoddenia looks up from a red desk in a red office with the Stoddenian flag behind it. He begins to speak:* Ladies and Gentlemen, according to reports we have recently recieved via intercepted conversations from the ionized zone formerly known as Torontia, the Second Torontian Insurrection has begun.

If you will remember, Torontia is the nation that greeted the announcement of the the success of our Revolution with a declaration of war. As a result, imperial nations decided to take our plight as an excuse to carve up yet another nation, an excuse to justify the huge existance of their militaries. Since that time, our national population, swelled by Torontian refugees to whom we recently opened our boarders has grown to 26 million, 15 million of whom are now armed and prepared to face any invasion from land, sea or air, should one come nowadays.

We maintain our eternal neutrality in this situation. But as a sizable chunk of our population is now composed of those who formerly called Torontia home, we express symptathy with any and all forces seeking to liberate that troubled and oppressed land from Imperial domination. All those who stand for the defeat and or removal of all imperialist forces from Torontia will be offered any and all asylum in Stoddenia should they ever need it. Additionally, if it is requested, Stoddenia offers a fact finding mission to any liberated zone to discover the quality and composition of these insurgent forces. If we are able to determine that they are truely struggling for social justice, national liberation, and a democratic day for Torontia, a dawn from their former tyranny-cum-imperialist occupied past and present, we will consider the establishment of a military mission within the liberated zone that will consist of military advisors to provide technical, logistical, and tactical support to any and all insurgency movements struggling to liberate Torontia from the Imperialists who now occupy and are looting large portions of the former free state of Torontia for their own personal gains.

Do not mistake me, people of the world. As our nation was born of a successful insurgency against Oligarchy, so must we seek to establish fraternal relationships with all those who conduct the same sort of struggle for National liberation. We will not violate our neutrality in this fight, but if we can do something that will take the pressure off of freedom fighters so their power can be better employed elsewhere, this is part of our mission, and the main thrust of our future involvement in this situation, until the day that Torontia has a government elected by themselves, under the influence of NO foreign imperialist power.

Let all occupying powers resolve the conflict in Torontia quickly and leave immediately, returning to Torontia all resources you removed from that sovereign nation during your illegal and illegitimate occupation of the territory of Torontia. Do not establish a puppet government there, or you will force the hand of our Republic. We send this strong message from our position of correctness on this issue.

Freedom for ALL oppressed peoples!
Socialism or Death, Equality or Death!

*commentator states: "You have been listening to the President of Stoddenia. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, and in Torontia, we encourage you all to keep fighting the imperialists. Do not let your nationals down. We stand with the legitimate efforts of ALL oppressed peoples to liberate themselves, especially those who are victims of Imperialist Aggression and Exploitation. Socialism or Death, Equality or Death!" The signal cuts out, and the programs that were on before the satalite signals were hijacked returns. Torontian refugees in Stoddenia begin phoning their relatives in Torontia, talking about who knows what, but with a glimmer of hope in their voices.*
Amestria
13-11-2005, 11:39
Amestrian Military Movements

To crush the insurgency in BC the Amestrian Occupation Authority and the Torontian Provisional Government dispatches 100,000 troops, bringing the total number of Amestrian/Torontian soldiers in BC to 160,000 (not counting police). The door-to-door searches continue, checkpoints are established, and citizens are encouraged to inform the authorities of any information they possess on the insurgency (rewards are promised. est.). To prevent the violence from spreading or the terrorists from escaping travel restrictions are once again implemented, no one can leave BC.

BC's connection to the national phone grid, with the exception of official lines, is severed.

The State of Amestria flies in an additional 40,000 troops and there is talk of a temporary draft in Amestria's parliament as the occupation begins to put a strain on the National Reserves.


Secret Message to Yallak from the State of Amestria

Stoddenia's statement could be construed as an act of war. That country, with it's stupid and poorly informed leadership, is encouraging terrorism which is promoted by a foreign element in North Western Torontia. We ask you to do something about them!

-President Daniel F. Boon
Stoddenia
13-11-2005, 16:38
Secret IC from Stoddenia

*The Ambassador of Stoddenia sailing with the Emperor of Yallak knocks on the Emperor's Stateroom door aboard the vessel traveling to Torontia. As the Emperor says "Enter," the Ambassador sits down at his desk.*

Emperor, I have been informed by the Secreatry of State that the President has made a very important speech last night. He has declared solidarity with any national liberation movements within Torontia. Support of national liberation movements that are domestic in origin and represent the hopes of the people more than the policy of occupying powers does is a cornerston of our nation's foreign policy. We stand solidly against those who carve Torontia up for the sake of their own personal gain, regardless of the motivations they pronounce on the television.

We therefore have adopted the following course of action. Since we realize that you have a stake in one of the Imperialist schemes that we view as currently looting the nation of Torontia, which comes through your association with the country of Amestria, we request that in order to maintain and foster our current very newly accomplished relations between our two countries, you remain non-committed with regards to our desire to send a fact finding mission to officials of the insurgency, to discover whether they meet the following prerequisites for our support:

1) They are homegrown, not foreign nationals. If they are not homegrown, they are merely just another power trying to take over a country so they can carve up the world in their imperialist design.

2) If they are homegrown, we seek to ascertain whether or not these people are interested in egalitarianism and social justice, or if they are merely a terrorist organization bent on replacing the imperialist rule with another tyranny.

3) If they are homegrown and an egalitarian movement, we then seek to ascertain their level of committment. If they are disengaged, and seek to promote their agenda through simple and vulgar terrorist activities, they do not, in our estimation constitute an army of liberation. If they are indeed developing tactics that go beyond the mere taking of human life in a non-conventional style, they can be said to be a genuine Army of Liberation and we will conduct further negotiations.

If all of these three conditions are met, using a VERY strict set of criteria, and looking at the objective criteria VERY skeptically, it is our Nation's position that they are to be supported. That support at first will consist of financial, technical and tactical support of a few handfuls of our troops. If nothing else, as our President said, it will free insurgents up to fight elsewhere without worrying about internal security. Our forces will be under strict orders to not engage any other forces unless directly engaged themselves. We will also limit our theater innitially to just these areas of adivsory action.

But several of my staff will soon be leaving to conduct this investigation, and if possible ascertain whether they meet our criteria. And I, therefore repeat our request that you remain non-committed to any sort of action regarding this situation, and allow us to carry out our own foreign policy as we see fit. We are not asking you to ignore your allies in theater. But we are asking you to not ignore our concerns either. Please weigh these requests heavily and hopefully you will decide on the side of social justice, egalitarianism, and national liberation.

*The Ambassador sits back in the Chair and awaits the Emperor's reply.*
Red Tide2
13-11-2005, 17:18
The selected channels of the Red Tidean Media continued unabated, the Stoddenian Presidents speech was never seen on the screens as the Red Tide Media was goverment based and therefore VERY effective at controlling the type of information that came through to the goverment. Therefore, the Stoddenians presidents message was not heard... at least not in Red Tide.
The Lone Alliance
13-11-2005, 19:17
Secret IC:

-Council of 20.-
I thought we said that all troops were ordered to pull out, Lettys." One of the members said to the General standing in the room. "Sir, we did pull out all of our troops." Lettys answered, "Hmm, then you are saying that the Torontians were able to be trained and equipped in such a short time, Impressive."
"They wanted to know, I knew we wouldn't be able to stay, and so I gave them a fighting chance with what weapons we could spare and advanced training in urban and hit and run tactics." "Very well you may go."
"So like we wanted Torontia must be ruled by Torontia."
Stoddenia
14-11-2005, 00:34
*Secret IC*

Several members of Stoddenia's Embassy staff who are aboard Yallak's Ship enroute to Yallak begin going over the major factions controlling and competing for power in Torontia. Of all the people currently in arms, the only people who seem to be anywhere close to meeting even the first criterion of being homegrown (let alone the other two) are the partisans in the Lone Alliance area. The committee reported these findings to the Stoddenia Ambassador, Erin, who threw up her hands and proclaimed, "God Damn you Docus..." She then said to the committee: "Well do you think you'll be able to find any of the insurgents?" A member of her staff responded with a non-committal "Well, I mean we could look but we wouldn't have any idea where to start..."

The young Ambassador said "Well, ok, here's what we will do. Monitor your comm devices. If you overhear any traffic coming in that describes a possible starting point, let me know immediately. We will then dispatch you, the three person committee to the zone to make an attempt to establish contact with one of the partisan group's leadership. As for me, I am preparing to overcome that Red Tide communication barrier and rebroadcast the message from Stoddenia to Torontia yet again. Hopefully one of our partisans are watching television, but the President of Stoddenia will be heard in the entirety of Torontia."

With that, Erin set about to her work using her lap top computer, and accomplished her task, re-broadcasting the message from the President to all of Torontia, and then sending it out a second time for good measure. She looked up to her staff and said "Now the only people in Torontia who didn't hear that message are those on closed circuit, and at the very least, we know that Red Tide's part of the country is not on closed circuit. Hopefully one of the insurgent groups heard our message and will contact our government with directions on how to contact them. I only wish Red Tide wouldn't have gloated so brashly about his media being dominated by the government over the airwaves. I mean, what was he thinking, essentialy telling us "Missed me" over the television? Like we can't figure out how to get around THAT?! But it would have made my life a little easier if he hadn't said anything... Anyway.... Docus is probably one of the most recognized faces in Torontia now..."
The Black Hand of Nod
14-11-2005, 00:45
-Vancouver- 12 hours after start of Insurrection...

" Groups 42, 12 and 13 are confirmed defeated, contact lost with groups 13 and 18, the others have taken secure positions." "How went the 20 through 24 groups airport attack." "They barely made it through, however 22's sniper managed to put a .50 bullet into their radar dish and their backup array. The runway lights managed to get taken out. But we lost group 21 in the fighting." "Brave men, give orders to fall back to the North Eastern part of the city, have them bunker in till tomorrow, we must conserve ammo." 46 lost in only 12 hours of the 1000 strong group. On the Amestrian side the cost must have been greater. The attacks from 33 and 34 were repeated at around the same time, hitting 3 different house to house patrols. What's more, they had begun to gain more civilians who, feared for safety from the angry Amestrians, began to join them. Those who betrayed them were punished greatly, until the promise of rewards outnumbered the risks of being caught a traitor. However this was just delay tactics, there was no way they could last more than a month, of 33 and 34 group they got ambushed later in the night by an Armored Car group, only a few managed to escape. Yes the losses were heavy but they fought on, to free their nation from outsiders.

=Anchorage=
A small container ship pulled up to a dockside building outside the city, it quickly unloaded it's cargo and departed before any nearby ships could investigate. 2hours later, 4 trucks departed the building and headed south.

-Vancouver-
"Sir look at this," a younger civilian said handing a video tape to the current officer in charge. "What is it?" "Play it."

"We interrupt your programs to broadcast a message from the President of the United Socialist States of Stoddenia."*

Ladies and Gentlemen, according to reports we have recently recieved via intercepted conversations from the ionized zone formerly known as Torontia, the Second Torontian Insurrection has begun.

If you will remember, Torontia is the nation that greeted the announcement of the the success of our Revolution with a declaration of war. As a result, imperial nations decided to take our plight as an excuse to carve up yet another nation, an excuse to justify the huge existance of their militaries. Since that time, our national population, swelled by Torontian refugees to whom we recently opened our boarders has grown to 26 million, 15 million of whom are now armed and prepared to face any invasion from land, sea or air, should one come nowadays.

We maintain our eternal neutrality in this situation. But as a sizable chunk of our population is now composed of those who formerly called Torontia home, we express symptathy with any and all forces seeking to liberate that troubled and oppressed land from Imperial domination. All those who stand for the defeat and or removal of all imperialist forces from Torontia will be offered any and all asylum in Stoddenia should they ever need it. Additionally, if it is requested, Stoddenia offers a fact finding mission to any liberated zone to discover the quality and composition of these insurgent forces. If we are able to determine that they are truely struggling for social justice, national liberation, and a democratic day for Torontia, a dawn from their former tyranny-cum-imperialist occupied past and present, we will consider the establishment of a military mission within the liberated zone that will consist of military advisors to provide technical, logistical, and tactical support to any and all insurgency movements struggling to liberate Torontia from the Imperialists who now occupy and are looting large portions of the former free state of Torontia for their own personal gains.

Do not mistake me, people of the world. As our nation was born of a successful insurgency against Oligarchy, so must we seek to establish fraternal relationships with all those who conduct the same sort of struggle for National liberation. We will not violate our neutrality in this fight, but if we can do something that will take the pressure off of freedom fighters so their power can be better employed elsewhere, this is part of our mission, and the main thrust of our future involvement in this situation, until the day that Torontia has a government elected by themselves, under the influence of NO foreign imperialist power.

Let all occupying powers resolve the conflict in Torontia quickly and leave immediately, returning to Torontia all resources you removed from that sovereign nation during your illegal and illegitimate occupation of the territory of Torontia. Do not establish a puppet government there, or you will force the hand of our Republic. We send this strong message from our position of correctness on this issue.

Freedom for ALL oppressed peoples!
Socialism or Death, Equality or Death!

"Do you know what this means?" What sir? "We aren't alone anymore, find out anything you can about this Stoddenia nation, where they are how to find them anything you can." "Yes sir."
Saint Fedski
14-11-2005, 00:51
**Public Service Announcement from the office of Governor Sean Keane**

The Interm Government of Torontia has announced its election format after much debate. It will be direct democracy, no party system.

The province will be divided into territories of 75,000 people. Each territory will have no more than 15 persons running in the election.

The runners must have the following:
1) A petition signed by 3500 people.
2) A degree in economics, political science, history, environmental science or one approved by the current interm government.
3) A staff (an advisor, an aide, and 2 secretaries) selected. The aide will serve as the potential minister's deputy and must therefore be qualified with a degree in the above categories.

Once each territory has elected their member, he or she will then be sworn in as a Member of Parliament.

After the "swearing in ceremony" the next round of elections will pass. All MPs are now able to run for Chairman. They have five days following the election to announce they are running for Chairman. After that time, no more applicants will be accepted. All runners must have the following:

1) A signed petition of 10,000 signatures
2) The signed acceptance of atleast four other MPs.
3) A seperate staff (providing the MP is elected, his or her aide will then represent the MP in sessions of parliament.
4) A cabinet selected from elected MP's (suiting their qualifications)

Providing the canidates meet these criteria, the population will then vote for the person who they believe should be running the nation.

Any questions regarding this process may be forwarded to your local Interm Government Office.
Amestria
14-11-2005, 00:53
-snip-

-In the Amestrian Occupied Zone of Torontia (excluding BC)-

Most Torontians shake their heads at Stoddenias statements and continue on with their lives. They walk through their neighborhoods, as they do so waving to the Peacekeepers patrolling the streets insuring they are safe. Torontians, in areas where there is still scarcity, renew their ration cards at the facilities set up by the Amestrian Occupation Authority. Those feeling sick go to see an Amestrian military doctor or a Torontian doctor paid for by Amestria. People prepare for the upcoming elections...est. If anything, Torontians are furious at Stoddenia for interrupting their favorite television shows and threatening to aid violence that could once again destabilize the country!


Statement from the Amestrian Occupation Authority and the Torontian Provisional Government

All travel between Stoddenia and the Amestrian Occupation zone is hereby closed. All Stoddenian citizens are hereby deported from the Amestrian protected sections of Torontia. If any Stoddenian citizens are found in the Amestrian zone 72 hours after this announcement, they will be forcibly removed. Any Stoddenian citizen caught illegally trying to enter Torontia will be charged with espionage and if found guilty, executed.

-End Statement-


The State of Amestria takes precautions so that Stoddenia can no longer hijack its satellites.


Secret Communications with the Empire of Yallak

The Amestrian Occupation Authority sends the Yallak fleet command copies of its expense accounts. While some the causes of expense are blacked out as "military secrets", the records prove that Amestria is not making as much as a dime in Torontia. In fact, Amestria has pretty much been losing money since its troops arrived and there is no evidence of economic exploitation or resource theft. Amestria also sends its post-occupation plans to Yallak, which show that while Amestria intends to maintain several large defensive bases in Torontia, that Amestria has no desire or plans for permanent political control over the Torontian government.
Amestria
14-11-2005, 01:02
-Vancouver- 12 hours after start of Insurrection...

In light of such early victories, the Amestrian Occupation Authority dispatches another 40,000 troops to the area, hoping to knock the insurgency out cold in a single round. There are now 200,000 Amestrian/Torontian troops in the BC area.


=Anchorage=
A small container ship pulled up to a dockside building outside the city, it quickly unloaded it's cargo and departed before any nearby ships could investigate. 2hours later, 4 trucks departed the building and headed south.


The trucks are stopped and searched at an Amestrian checkpoint, just like all heavy vehicles.
Stoddenia
14-11-2005, 01:22
-In the Amestrian Occupied Zone of Torontia (excluding BC)-

Statement from the Amestrian Occupation Authority and the Torontian Provisional Government

All travel between Stoddenia and the Amestrian Occupation zone is hereby closed. All Stoddenian citizens are hereby deported from the Amestrian protected sections of Torontia. If any Stoddenian citizens are found in the Amestrian zone 72 hours after this announcement, they will be forcibly removed. Any Stoddenian citizen caught illegally trying to enter Torontia will be charged with espionage and if found guilty, executed.

-End Statement-



Statement from Government of Stoddenia regarding Amestria's recent Comments

All restrictions placed upon nationals of the United Socialist States of Stoddenia within Imperialist dominated Torontia by the illegitimate regimes that occupy it currently and denying it the rights of self determination free from foreign hegemony, will be instated against nationals of Amestria. We have identified fifteen Amestrian Nationals within our port City of Oatmeal City so far and have rounded them up. They are currently being held at the port awaiting deportation. The nation of Amestria will make all necessary arrangements to get their nationals back, and if not, we will consider them to be off the books paramilitary elements and will schedule them for incarceration on charges of attempting to overthrow our government. Additionally, our national militia is put on alert and 12 million Stoddenian Soldiers are reporting to militia barracks across the nation with another 9 million troops ordered into the reserve. Most of these reserves are recently inducted portions of the refugee surge, to whom it has been explained that if our nation, the one that gave them asylum is attacked, it is because we are attempting to assit their countrymen and women to self determination. These are some of our most fanatical forces, and have been trained in the most rudimentary of non-conventional tactics.

Our nationals will enter Torontia on their fact finding mission. They are informed that they are to avoid the few portions of Torontia under the iron domination of Amestria, though are advised that if need be, they may make attempts to continue carrying out their fact finding mission until it is complete. Our nationals are ordered to not engage any Amestrian, nor any member of Amestria's puppet government. Nor are they to respond to any interrogation or threat. They have been instructed to avoid Amestrian forces at all costs, and "police and government agents" are being added to their "no-contact list". Stoddenia will have the facts of the situation on the ground first hand; we will not accept the propaganda being distributed by the Amestrian government as being objective, factual, or even truthful.

On one final note. This entire situation could have been avoided, we in the Government of Stoddenia would like to remind you, if you hadn't been so interested in carving Torontia up for your self. You could have followed the path of peace that our associates, Yallak followed, and withdrew your forces to come to multi-lateral peace talks. But now you have an insurgency on your hands by groups that apparently are not satisfied with your claims of pursuit of self-determination, democracy, or social justice. They have seen first hand that this is not what your goal in Torontia is at all. Our staff will travel to Torontia to discover whether or not that insurgency is homegrown or if it is made up of outside agitators. And we will decide what to do then to remain in line with our own national philosophy. If they are homegrown insurgents, if they are pursuing social justice and egalitarianism and if they are committed to the use of tactics other than terrorism, we will support them, because, if they are people of Torontia willing to stand up for egalitarianism and social justice and willing to do it in a disciplined manner, they are a more democratic force than the occupiers who seek to crush them into the dust.

Very Sincerely,
The President of Stoddenia
Yallak
14-11-2005, 01:25
Secret IC from Stoddenia

<snip>

But several of my staff will soon be leaving to conduct this investigation, and if possible ascertain whether they meet our criteria. And I, therefore repeat our request that you remain non-committed to any sort of action regarding this situation, and allow us to carry out our own foreign policy as we see fit. We are not asking you to ignore your allies in theater. But we are asking you to not ignore our concerns either. Please weigh these requests heavily and hopefully you will decide on the side of social justice, egalitarianism, and national liberation.

*The Ambassador sits back in the Chair and awaits the Emperor's reply.*

"You may conduct your investigations. Even if i wanted to stop you, there really is no ground to do so. Just promise you wont start supporting any military activities without first discussing it with me."
Saint Fedski
14-11-2005, 01:33
Additionally, our national militia is put on alert and 12 million Stoddenian Soldiers are reporting to militia barracks across the nation with another 9 million troops ordered into the reserve. Most of these reserves are recently inducted portions of the refugee surge, to whom it has been explained that if our nation, the one that gave them asylum is attacked, it is because we are attempting to assit their countrymen and women to self determination. These are some of our most fanatical forces, and have been trained in the most rudimentary of non-conventional tactics.
haha ok....21 million soldiers from a country of 26 million. Even if you rounded up all the military aged people (healthy and unhealthy) you still wouldn't be able to field that many soldiers...especially with a developing economy.
Yallak
14-11-2005, 01:34
Secret Communications with the Empire of Yallak

The Amestrian Occupation Authority sends the Yallak fleet command copies of its expense accounts. While some the causes of expense are blacked out as "military secrets", the records prove that Amestria is not making as much as a dime in Torontia. In fact, Amestria has pretty much been losing money since its troops arrived and there is no evidence of economic exploitation or resource theft. Amestria also sends its post-occupation plans to Yallak, which show that while Amestria intends to maintain several large defensive bases in Torontia, that Amestria has no desire or plans for permanent political control over the Torontian government.

Commander Dagon read over the files he had just received from the Amestrian occupation authority. While they did not appear to be making money - these Military secrets caused him some concern.

Encoded Imperial Transmission
To: Amestrian Occupation Authority
From: Supreme Commander Dagon

Regarding the documents you recently sent me i would like to know what these "military secrets" you are financing in Torontia - just to avoid any misunderstandings that might come from you running a classified project in an occupied nation.
Stoddenia
14-11-2005, 01:40
Secret IC

*Erin responds* You have nothing to fear, Emperor. Our Nation is ocnvinced that there is little chance these people meet our first criteria, let alone our second or third. But we have to stand up for insurgencies of national liberation. That is one of the primary goals of our government. The third Plank, if you will, and our population supports that plank perhaps more than the others, I imagine. It is how we came into being, and how we will establish ourselves on the world stage where few nations respect us.

Our committee is on stand by. I will give the orders to launch the mission. *Erin calls on her cell phone to one of her staff* Launch the mission, please... *she then closes the cell phone.* Emperor, it is not our intention to implicate you in this affair. Please do what you must to reassure your allies that you are not involved in anyway with assisting us in our fact-finding mission, nor will you assist us in any way if it becomes necessary for us to develop the theater more. In fact, this idea was pretty much a brain child of the President and the Secretary of State, who are among the radicals of the Party in their committment to social justice and egalitarianism, and are absolutely committed to the idea of national liberation. Perhaps unfortunately, the National Government is dominated by these radicals who agree with the President in this matter, and so, his policy becomes our policy, and I am bound to report it accurately and justly. I don't have to agree 100%, but I won't misrepresent it. Thank you for your willingness to co-operate with us.

*The three-person staff committee launches out from the ship via Stoddenian diplomatic Helicopter, and arrives at a predesignated ship off the coast of Torontia, bearing the markings of Yallak. The three person team jumps out and the helicopter immediately returns to the vessel carrying the Stoddenia Ambassador. The diplomatic team swims from the Yallak ship and onshore to Torontia in an unspecified location to begin their fact finding mission. They await and survey the area and when it is clear that there are no military, police or government forces anywhere around, they spread out and disperse. Under the cloudy sky at night, they are able to move about the countryside undetected to semi-permanet hiding places to await further information and orders from the Ambassador.*
Stoddenia
14-11-2005, 01:47
haha ok....21 million soldiers from a country of 26 million. Even if you rounded up all the military aged people (healthy and unhealthy) you still wouldn't be able to field that many soldiers...especially with a developing economy.

OOC: We don't need to field them. The country is their field. They merely possess rifles and ammunition, and are "required" to volunteer for service. And yes, kids do asist in the defense of the nation. The people who are alerted begin taking their rifles everywhere. You can tell who is in the militia by who carries a gun, that is their uniform. When the call is put out, they have recieved the most basic training to form a defensive perimeter, and await further orders. They do it around their schools, their workplaces, their churches, wherever they happen to be. We are a nation on high alert, and considering that the country was recently liberated in a popular war, where all aged people participated, (that fact is well documented) it is not too unreasonable that the militia consisting of 21 million people are prepared to defend the country. Getting them anywhere outside of Stoddenia would be a problem, sure, but they don't need to leave anywhere. They merely stand and fight where they are until they have orders to do otherwise. It's that simple. We have a few AA guns, that's really all we need, but to wipeout our forces, you would litterally need to level the country. We are not preparing an invasion of Torontia, merely the defense of our own country. -S
Yallak
14-11-2005, 01:57
Secret IC reply

"It's is not a problem. If you find that the people indeed want the occupying nations to leave, then there is naught we can do, and we will have to leave. Our allies won’t know that we support your mission, and I doubt they will find out.
You do what your nation asks, as do I – It is all we can do in times like this. These self-appointed governments in Torontia, I now doubt, will ever reach an agreement between each other, and so now I count on your report to decide whether or not the Empire will remain in Torontia."
McKagan
14-11-2005, 01:59
OOC: That many people in your military isn't POSSIBLE. Well, if you want to accept a TOTAL economic collapse, at which point you'd lose the war anyway....
Kravania
14-11-2005, 02:02
(OOC)

McKagan.

Can you tell me WTF is going on.

What is this 'insurgency' that ppl are talking about and why are there like 3 or 4 puppet governments in Torontia.

What are your plans for tanakis, you gonna kill him, arrest him or what?
Yallak
14-11-2005, 02:04
OOC: That many people in your military isn't POSSIBLE. Well, if you want to accept a TOTAL economic collapse, at which point you'd lose the war anyway....

I don't think it really is a military - its a militia - a bunch of peasant (a really big bunch) with guns. You don't even need a military budget to do that - they can all buy their own guns.

EDIT: SF - i never said bad stuff wouldn't happen from doing it.
Saint Fedski
14-11-2005, 02:06
Then I will mobilize all 185 million "reserve" soldiers and completely forget about running my nation. I will let them starve and dehydrate. I will let the vehicles run out of gas and will let all the sick people die. I will let the economy go from whatever its at now to imploded and think even if my 185 million untrained people only armed with rifles and one clip of ammunition actually repelled an assault from an advanced army and airforce with tanks and planes, i would be able to rebuild my nation just like that.
McKagan
14-11-2005, 02:12
(OOC)

McKagan.

Can you tell me WTF is going on.

What is this 'insurgency' that ppl are talking about and why are there like 3 or 4 puppet governments in Torontia.

What are your plans for tanakis, you gonna kill him, arrest him or what?

I'll TG you.
Xirnium
14-11-2005, 02:12
I think Stoddenia’s idea is feasible. He isn’t sending all 26 million soldiers into divisions, but rather arming his populous. So, for example, the militia working in the armaments factory will only take up the fight as tanks approach its outskirts. I think it is a refreshing idea, and there is precedent for it. During WWII the Soviet union used workers’ militias in Stalingrad. Japan armed its populous with lances and other weapons for resisting the invasion of the home islands. Germany mobilised its peoples' militias and gave them cheap anti-tank weaponry and hunting rifles. Presupposing you rp the detriments of such a system (basically extreme poor quality of troops) it could work very well, and interestingly.

PS. Stoddenia I’d like to point out I made a post in your embassy thread.
Stoddenia
14-11-2005, 02:17
Then I will mobilize all 185 million "reserve" soldiers and completely forget about running my nation. I will let them starve and dehydrate. I will let the vehicles run out of gas and will let all the sick people die. I will let the economy go from whatever its at now to imploded and think even if my 185 million untrained people only armed with rifles and one clip of ammunition actually repelled an assault from an advanced army and airforce with tanks and planes, i would be able to rebuild my nation just like that.

Sir, you can do whatever you want with your nation. I am saying, the people of Stoddenia are armed to the teeth. When the call goes out, i.e. when we are actually invaded, they will simply put down their work or other activities, step outside and make a perimeter around their workplace. They only get the call when they can expect to be engaged within a few minutes. It's like a toronado or fire alarm. The militia will be activated more and more if the front moves inland. But our geography pretty much prevents that by bottlenecking thrusts through densly foliated jungles that are easily defensibly by valley peoples.

Additionally, their military training and discipline comes from their life over the past few years within my country, when the entire nation was at war and the economy was destroyed. Thirdly, our complete lack of infrastructure prevents the modern armies of the world from advancing off of our shores. You can not drive a tank through jungle mountains on a foot path. Planes can drop paratroopers who are shot out of the sky directly before they hit the deck. It can be done, and sandbags are being filled right now. To occupy the nation of Stoddenia would be a cost not worth bearing for any but the most ideologically driven superpower in the world. As I said, we may not be able to send many forces into other theaters, but nobody is coming into ours.
Leafanistan
14-11-2005, 02:28
Encrypted Message to Stoddenia

We've never been a fond friend of imperialism. And with your home guard mobilizing we've decided that these poorly armed people need a better chance. We hereby have recieved authorization to give you an aid package consisiting of 20 million AK-74 Assualt Rifles, 5 million M1 Carbines, 5 million FMK-3 Submachine Guns, and 10 million M-1911 pistols. We have also approved a 15 million Claymore contract if you provide us with a small fee of $15 million US. We can disguise it as a routine car shipment, and have the guns packed into "car frames" for more covert delivery. It can be done in 2 weeks if given enough time and clearance at your airbases/airports. We can also deploy "technical advisors" to your country and educate people in the use of these weapons and guerilla tactics. At most it'll cost you $15 million to have your nation armed to the teeth and trained. Just give us authorization and Sung Car Industries Aircraft will be delivering "Jaju Model 1993 Sedans" to your nation in only 24 hours.

Glory to the Confederacy, Glory to Marx.

Office of Army Intelligence
Section 6 - Special Operations

[END]

OOC: To clarify, they'll be arriving via the air, and the car frames are cardboard and plywood replicas of the cars, satellite imagery would reveal a lot of cars coming into the nation via Leafanistani, Saharistani, and Frozopian airports. We even have falsified paperwork.
Saint Fedski
14-11-2005, 02:32
I think Stoddenia’s idea is feasible. He isn’t sending all 26 million soldiers into divisions, but rather arming his populous. So, for example, the militia working in the armaments factory will only take up the fight as tanks approach its outskirts. I think it is a refreshing idea, and there is precedent for it. During WWII the Soviet union used workers’ militias in Stalingrad. Japan armed its populous with lances and other weapons for resisting the invasion of the home islands. Germany mobilised its peoples' militias and gave them cheap anti-tank weaponry and hunting rifles. Presupposing you rp the detriments of such a system (basically extreme poor quality of troops) it could work very well, and interestingly.
Those happened because they still had far more people working the factories and the economies than they did fighting. However because Stalingrad was just one city in a much larger nation, it was possible to do that. If Russia wanted to mobilize 80% of its population, I don't it could do it and even if it could, not for very long.
Xirnium
14-11-2005, 02:37
Those happened because they still had far more people working the factories and the economies than they did fighting. However because Stalingrad was just one city in a much larger nation, it was possible to do that. If Russia wanted to mobilize 80% of its population, I don't it could do it and even if it could, not for very long.

Yes, of course, but you can arm the people as the front comes to them.
Stoddenia
14-11-2005, 02:39
Those happened because they still had far more people working the factories and the economies than they did fighting. However because Stalingrad was just one city in a much larger nation, it was possible to do that. If Russia wanted to mobilize 80% of its population, I don't it could do it and even if it could, not for very long.

I am willing to bet that we will only really need to defend a couple cities too, especially from an amphibious assult. Have you seen the physical map of our nation?
Leafanistan
14-11-2005, 02:40
The idea isn't that he is actively putting people into his military. He is handing out guns to the citizens, no training, no real strain on the economy, plus if he accepts my very generous offer he'll be swimming in weapons and ammo, enough to supply his people. Kalashnikov Kid Divisions!

A bullet from a 12 year old is just as effective as a bullet from a 20 year old, maybe even more effective.
Saint Fedski
14-11-2005, 02:46
I'm still saying he's full of shit. End of thread hijacking.