NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: I'll make a post of condemnation once your shells begin to land.

Where is the map?if there isn't one, where is everyone getting the place names?

OOC: I have just been using a map of Washington... Link here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington

Here is Port Angeles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Angeles%2C_Washington

Port Angeles, Capital of the Torontian Provisional Government
(The one backed by Amestria)

Members of various parties join together to form the Provisional Parliament; effective law-making body until elections (if ever). The body, based out of the Port Angeles old city council building (long neglected by the New Order), quickly passes a resolution condemning the Saint Fedski backed Interim government as an illegal entity.

The Provisional Parliament further passes several decrees to hasten the return to stability.

1. Martial Law is declared, Amestrian military tribunals are empowered to prosecute violations of Torontian domestic law in the event the Torontian judiciary is unable or unwilling.

2. A curfew is put into effect for all communities over 50,000.

3. A newly revamped military staff is placed in charge of the Provisional Governments reorganized army, currently numbering 550,000 in total.

4. The New Order party is banned and a sedition law is put into effect. Advocating the return of the New Order or support for Vader Tanakis is now treason, punishable by death.

5. Many of the Oppressive laws implemented by the New Order (laws that regulate sex, personnel behavior, individual morality, free speech; and have nothing to do with preventing actual crime) are revoked.

OOC: Red Tide I think the 'Former' Capital of Torontia was Seattle, I don't think Toronto is even part of the nation ironicly enough.

IC:The artillery guns were ready, rank after rank of the long barrelled, 175mm ETC cannons were lined up, gunners standing ready for the coming fire mission. Major General Koniev Murmansk stood, admiring the scene. He turned and brought his binoculars up and looked at the city of Toronto. It would be any moment now, he looked at his watch, as soon as the second hand moved over the 3 on the clock he picked up the phone and said, "Fire..."

Anybody on the horizon would hear a deep throaty rumble came up, as the 1,200 artillery guns opened up. Shells shrieked into the air, reaching their limit before coming back down onto the hapless city.

OOC:Probably my last post for today.

OOC: Toronto is not part of Torontia, strange as it may seem, the New Order Capital of Torontia was Seattle (the government section of which The Lone Alliance is gassing).

(OOC)

Hal, check you TGs.

Give me feedback!

OOC: That's a good idea. I never thought of it so forgive me for copying. But be flattered that someone wants to copy your idea.

Under the protection of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski (http://www.angelfire.com/creep/fff17/torontia/Torontia.html)
The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has named Seattle as the capital.
Police/Military bases have been set up at
Fort Lawton
Naval Station Everett
Middle PT and Orchard PT Military Reservations
Whidbey Island Naval Air Station
Fort Lewis Military Reservation
Bangor Naval Reservation
Pugent Sound Naval Shipyard
Jackson Park Naval Reservation


All ports are militarily protected.

Seattle-Tacoma International Airport is open for international passenger flights.

The following airports are for the Armed Forces of The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski:
Boeing Field-King Co International Airport (7000 feet)
Renton Municipal Airport (4000 feet)
Paine Field-Snohomish Co Airport (8000 feet)
Olympia Municipal Airport (R1=5500 feet, R2=4000 feet, R3=5000 feet)
Arlington Municipal Airport (R1=4000 feet, R2=4000 feet)

The following airports are for non-military purposes only:
Pierce County Airport Thun Field (4000 feet)
Bayview Airport (R1=3000 feet, R2=3000 feet)
Anacortes Airport (3000 feet)
Tacoma Narrows Airport (5000 feet)
Auburn Municipal Airport (3000 feet)
Crest Airpark (3000 feet)

All other air strips are off limits.

Military flights must recieve permission from Seattle-Tacoma Air Control prior to emergency landing.


All private aircraft are grounded until further notice.

Policies
1. Go on with life as usual.
2. Theft of property will be dealt with severly.
3. All persons must present ration tickets in order to get gasoline
4. All firearms must be registered with the local garrison.
5. Elections will be held in one year.
6. The mayor of Seattle has been appointed governor of Torontia.
7. Citizens will be formed into local militias, led by Torontian Regulars in order to protect themselves should an invasion occur.
8. Citizens are not authorized to operate personnel aircraft or large watercraft.
9. All factories and industrial sites have been nationalized.
10. Citizens are encouraged to listen to the radio at 7 in the morning and 7 in the evening. Updates will be given then.

OOC: Toronto is not part of Torontia, strange as it may seem, the New Order Capital of Torontia was Seattle (the government section of which The Lone Alliance is gassing).
He'll have Spokane :P Click for a high resolution satellite image of Spokane (http://local.google.ca/local?q=Seattle&ll=47.649662,-117.476120&spn=0.204778,0.657532&hl=en)
Or he could take Vancouver and Victoria B.C.

IC:
Governor Sean Keane has decided to use part of the $10 billion dollars donated by the Concordance of Czards to build a brand new hospital near Saltwater State Park

OOC: That's a good idea. I never thought of it so forgive me for copying. But be flattered that someone wants to copy your idea.

Under the protection of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski (http://www.angelfire.com/creep/fff17/torontia/Torontia.html)
The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has named Seattle as the capital.


OOC: The Lone Alliance is gassing Seattles government district with some nerve agent which makes people go crazy, so you can not just move into the city and declare it the center of government.

Also, how many troops does Saint Fedski have in Torontia? I have 80,000 + 20,000 in Idaho with another 220,000 in transit to Torontia. The Provisional Government has over 500,000 Torontian troops, but Amestria has been organizing them since the Peacekeepers arrived. There is the question whether Saint Fedski has the military resources to implement the policies it has said it would and protect the areas it has said it would...

OOC: The Lone Alliance is gassing Seattles government district with some nerve agent which makes people go crazy, so you can not just move into the city and declare it the center of government.
I was already there. Red Tide did a misguided airborne assault on the place, then we had a lengthy conversation on page 10 about it.

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski's zone is occupied by North Saint Clair, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and Kahanistan at the moment.

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski's zone is occupied by Xirnium, North Saint Clair, Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and Kahanistan at the moment.

OOC: When did Xirnium send troops?

Port Angeles, Amestrian Military Movements

Five thousand Peacekeepers are dispatched to take possession of the Jefferson County International Airport. Over the next week, once the airport is possession and operational, an additional 100,000 troops (reserves presently training in Amestria) will be flown in.

(OOC)

Hal, check you TGs.

Give me feedback!

OOC: You need to check yours too, chief!

OOC: When did Xirnium send troops?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9879681&postcount=169
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9880106&postcount=181

I was already there. Red Tide did a misguided airborne assault on the place, then we had a lengthy conversation on page 10 about it.

OOC: I had Snuck in using Sub Lauched Transports. The things I'm using are completely remote controlled so the Transports were just attatched to the Subs and Released near Seattle. The target area is in the the area covered by the word 'attle' in Seattle on the map.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9879681&postcount=169
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9880106&postcount=181

Ummm, no they announced they were planning to send troops but they didn't because Amestria threatened war. There are at present no Xirnium troops in Torontia. Please make the neccessary corrections.

Which map? Top or bottom?
You haven't IClt launched them yet have you?

You haven't IClt launched them yet have you?

OOC: Yes he has (they are in the process of launching from his subs), and he does not care you where there first...

He hasn't launched them ICly yet though. He OOCly says he's going to launch them..but hasn't done anything publicly in Character. Let's continue our squabble in TG just so we don't wreck the thread.

Ummm, no they announced they were planning to send troops but they didn't because Amestria threatened war. There are at present no Xirnium troops in Torontia. Please make the neccessary corrections.
OCC:
They could have gone to Saint Fedski occupied Torontia though.

TORONtIA

RESPOND TO MY GOVERNMENT'S MESSAGE!



http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9876696&postcount=136

OCC:
They could have gone to Saint Fedski occupied Torontia though.

OOC: They were not sent in IC nor were they aware of your government at the time they considered sending troops. When they did become aware they did not IC send troops. Therefore at present there are no Xirnium troops in Torontia.

IC: The State of Amestria and the Torontian Provisional Government based in Port Angeles control most, if not all, the Olympic Peninsula directly (minus the Seattle areas).

OOC: Here is a link to a map of the approximate area of Amestria's control:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Olympicpeninsula.PNG

OOC: They were not sent in IC nor were they aware of your government at the time they considered sending troops. When they did become aware they did not IC send troops. Therefore at present there are no Xirnium troops in Torontia.

Well I announced and Saint Fedski became aware of my intention to send troops there quite a while ago. They may well have arrived by now.

Well I announced and Saint Fedski became aware of my intention to send troops there quite a while ago. They may well have arrived by now.

OOC: You have to make an IC post actually sending them, one cannot assume something as important as troop movements. Plus I threatened to bomb any organized Xirnium troops which entered Torontia and I can do it (carriers and cruise missiles).

OCC: Look, I don't want to OCCly ruin this thread, so I'll assume I haven't sent troops.

Diplomatic Message
To: The Saint Fedskian Provincial Government of Torontia
From: Their Eminences, the Twelve Grand Cardinals of Holy Xirnium

With your permission we wish to make it known that we are sending the 47th and 48th Paratrooper Divisions to assist you in peacekeeping duties.

Their Eminences, the Lord High Grand Cardinals of Holy Xirnium
Chief Ministers of the High Ecclesiarchy

OOC: Assuming diplomatic messages are secret

To: The Chief Ministers
From: Gov. Sean Keane, Torontia Governor
Re: Troop deployment

You are granted permission to deploy your division to the Seattle Area. It is requested however that to avoid confrontation with Amestria, you wear uniforms supplied by the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. I will assign your soldiers a sector upon arrival. God speed my friend.

Sincerely,
Gov. Sean Keane, Torontia Governor

To: Gov. Sean Keane, Torontia Governor
From: Their Eminences, the Twelve Grand Cardinals of Holy Xirnium
Re: Troop deployment

In order to respect your desire to avoid confrontation with Amestria we shall respect your wishes to travel in Saint Fedskian uniforms.

Their Eminences, the Lord High Grand Cardinals of Holy Xirnium
Chief Ministers of the High Ecclesiarchy


To: International Community
From: Their Eminences, the Twelve Grand Cardinals of Holy Xirnium


The High Ecclesiarchy formally recognises the Keane Torontian Provisional Government as the sovereign government of the state of Torontia.

Their Eminences, the Lord High Grand Cardinals of Holy Xirnium
Chief Ministers of the High Ecclesiarchy

IC: The State of Amestria and the Torontian Provisional Government based in Port Angeles control most, if not all, the Olympic Peninsula directly (minus the Seattle areas).
To: Amestria
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski
The Holy Empire has no objections to the occupation of the Olympic Peninsula except for the slivers of land the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has occupied.

To: All parties involved
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski Security Council
Re: Torontia: Occupation and Government

As conflict seems to be drawing nearer, perhaps is the time the occupying powers began some high level talks. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is willing to accept the Interm Government sponsored by Amestria if Amestria accepts the Provisional Government of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. Yes, it has been stated that the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski would not stand for the "sectionalization" of Torontia, but it may be what is needed to avoid conflict and get on with the rebuilding of this poor nation. It is requested that all occupying nations exchange information on their current areas of occupation so as to avoid unintentional conflict and to have an idea as to what each nation is likely to bargin for at said meeting.

[signed]
Chairman Gary Girardi, Chairman
Louis Riel, Vice Chairman
Madam Robynne Hay, Minister of Defence
Sahdka Misoui, Deputy Minister and Acting Minister of Foreign Affairs
General Maximus Obliqus, Commander in Chief Armed Forces(Army)
Admiral Ken Murphy, Deputy Commander in Chief Armed Forces (Navy)
Raymond Franks, Chief, Intelligence Bureau
Sir Braden Bass, Minister of Law and Order
Sir Harold Willens, Chief Justice

The Security Council of The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski

OOC: my occupation is illustrated by the blue sections of the bottom map

To: All parties involved
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski Security Council
Re: Torontia: Occupation and Government

As conflict seems to be drawing nearer, perhaps is the time the occupying powers began some high level talks. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is willing to accept the Interm Government sponsored by Amestria if Amestria accepts the Provisional Government of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. Yes, it has been stated that the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski would not stand for the "sectionalization" of Torontia, but it may be what is needed to avoid conflict and get on with the rebuilding of this poor nation. It is requested that all occupying nations exchange their current areas of occupation so as to avoid unintentional conflict and to have an idea as to what each nation is likely to bargin for at said meeting.


Response from the Amestrian Occupation Authority

The Amestrian government agrees to the exchange of non-military information between occupation zones.


(The following statements were made by the Torontian Provisional Government before they became aware of Saint Fedski's offer).


Announcements from the Torontian Provisional Government

All groups, which acquired weapons during the chaos, are to be disarmed by the Amestrian Peacekeepers and the Torontian Army.

As Seattle is currently controlled by rebel forces, travel between Seattle and the areas controlled by the Torontian Government is hereby restricted.


Torontian Provisional Government Unveils its Agenda

Support for legitimate private property rights. Any property illegally taken over or otherwise controlled by the New Order regime will be redistributed to its original owners or sold at public auction. All non-utilities shall be privatized.

A truth and reconciliation commission shall be set up that will be involved in a non-criminal investigation into the New Order regime and its abuses.

Elections are to be held in the areas under Government control in one year’s time. The New Order Party or any group affiliated with the rebel regime in Seattle shall be banned from taking part.

What is meant by "exchangeing current areas of occupation? <snip>
(The following statements were made by the Torontian Provisional Government before they became aware of Saint Fedski's offer)
This has been clarified.

Official Imperial Edict
To: All Governments currently occupying areas in Torontia

Enough.

Our patience wears thin with your Neolithic style bickering. The Empire demands your governments to cease dividing the broken Torontia into pieces which you can assume control of and immediately conform to one sole Torontian provisional government, devoted to rebuilding the nation and preventing further hostilities and political threats.

Fail to end your disputes and comply with our very reasonable and beneficial request, and I will have no choice but to turn my fleet around and remove everyone of you.

Balor, Emperor of Yallak

The second contingent from the Republic of North St. Clair had arrived earlier in the day aboard Saint Fedskian ships. They were forced to wait aboard the cramped transports because the harbour was crowed and the tide was still low. It would still be another hour before their vehicles and heavier equipment could be unloaded. Among the troops and vehicles carried, were Combat Search and Rescue Teams and a Combat Engineering battalions complete with vital construction vehicles and equipment.

-Lone Alliance Announcement-
We have begun our attack, we advise all Allied and Neutral forces to evacuate the attack area by the next 4 hours.

http://img219.imageshack.us/full.php?image=tor7eb.png

Puget Sound...
The twin subs and their transports were approaching the western shore of the Seattle Capital area. Deployment is only a few hours away.

Edit:

-Sub-
"Alright prepare for deploy... *Beep* *BEEP* "People we have an abort." "I repeat abort." "Thank goodness, besides we haven't worked all the bugs out yet."

The Lone Alliance is aborting the attack on hearing of an alternate plan of forcing possible insurgants from The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski. International Minister Verta is on hand to provide information should any nation should need.

(OOC: Got to get off, be back on in around 8 hours.)

OOC:Didnt realize that Torontias capitol was Seattle and not Toronto... Ill make an edit on all my posts that replaces Toronto with Seattle.

IC:Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"We officialy declare the City of Seattle a warzone. As of now, we are conducting a massive artillery bombardment(with percision airstrikes to follow). Any person may enter Seattle at his own risk. As of now, the Red Tidean Controlled sector of Seattle International Airport is CLOSED to all non-Red Tidean Military traffic. Thank you."
End Statement

OOC:Didnt realize that Torontias capitol was Seattle and not Toronto... Ill make an edit on all my posts that replaces Toronto with Seattle.

IC:Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"We officialy declare the City of Seattle a warzone. As of now, we are conducting a massive artillery bombardment(with percision airstrikes to follow). Any person may enter Seattle at his own risk. As of now, the Red Tidean Controlled sector of Seattle International Airport is CLOSED to all non-Red Tidean Military traffic. Thank you."
End Statement


OOC: It's time for another episode of "how to make a bad idea"start bombardment of a city going under Allied occuipation, while 10 miles north of your strongest position a group of Soldiers are pissed that they couldn't use their special weapon on a limited area while you begin to level the whole city.

IC: As the first shells began hitting the shoreline where the Transports had parked after the abort the handful of soldiers on board disembarked and began to scatter, the few drones that hadn't shorted out were also removed as the shelling moved up the city. Small repairs were done on the few that were only slightly damaged and the small group of weapons and soldiers deployed in an abandoned building.

OOC:I thought Seattle was full of the New Orders Supporters? At least thats what everyone else is saying.
EDIT:And considering I am hitting the place with TWELVE-HUNDRED artillery guns, I think that your gonna need alot more then a simple building to protect you.

OOC:I thought Seattle was full of the New Orders Supporters? At least thats what everyone else is saying.
EDIT:And considering I am hitting the place with TWELVE-HUNDRED artillery guns, I think that your gonna need alot more then a simple building to protect you.

-Lone Alliance Forces Message-
Secret IC: Red Tide forces I repeat Red Tidean forces, you are nearing Friendlies. Repeat we have secured this sector and are beginning operations. Location cood ##X ##Y Combat Controllers have located a New Order hideout, at cord #5x and #2y, request fire mission. Translation Request total Destruction of that sector.

To: Red Tide
From: The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski
Re: Bombardment

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski orders to cease the bombardment on our positions. If there are any Saint Fedskian casualties, we will not be happy. You are ordered to cease the bombardment.

Official Statement
"We will lift the bombardment, temporarily, to let any civilians and friendly troops evacuate the area. This is also a chance for any New Order Soldiers to lay down their weapons and surrender. However, considering its been going on for 15 minutes now and has been targetted at the entire Goverment Area, there will doubtless have been a couple of thousand(if not, a couple of ten thousand) casualties by now. It will take several minutes before we can get the orders to the general though. After 2 hours, we shall commence bombardment again."
End Statement

3 minutes later the order was handed over to General Murmansk. He lifted his telephone and screamed, so he could be heard over the roar of the firing guns, into the phone.

"CEASE FIRE!"

Several seconds later the guns stopped shooting. Another aide of the general ran over to him handing him the message from the Lone Alliance Forces. He smiled cruely and lifted a phone to his artillery commander. 100 of the artillery guns began to adjust their aim, targetting the coordinates the Lone Alliance Troops had given them. But, staying true to his orders, he would wait 2 hours before firing again. He sent a message back to the Lone Alliance Troops saying:

Top Secret Message to Lone Alliance Troops From General Murmansk
"Roger, we have adjusted some of our guns aim, however, my goverment has ordered that the bombardment cease for 2 hours, we will recommence firing in that time."
End Message

OOC: Red Tide, there were no New Order forces in Seattle that were resisting the occupation. You just shelled and killed thousands in the area controled by the Saint Fedski backed Interium Government and its allies. It has been under coalition control for quite a while. You just fucked up the entire peace process!

IC: Message from the State of Amestria and the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles)

The Red Tide and Lone Alliance are to cease this attack upon Seattle at once.

Amestrian Military Movements

An additional 20,000 Amestrian Peacekeepers arrive in Port Angeles. The two Amestrian Carrier fleets prepare to launch air strikes and cruise missiles upon the Red Tide positions should they restart the bombardment (and they say as much to the Red Tide forces).

To: All intervening powers
From: Provisional Government of Torontia
Re: New Order

All members of the New Order are either being detained at an undisclosed location or have been chased to an underground bunker. As per the agreement with the Lone Alliance, the bunker is up for demolition. A public announcement will be made declaring that any members of the New Order who surrender themselves will be considered for a deal once the trials begin. Failure to surrender may add charges such as resisting arrest, inciting terror, conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to cause bodily harm, conspiracy to destablize peace and conspiracy to commit treason.

[signed]
Sean Keane, Governor, Provisional Government of Torontia

(From this point on, the government with St. Fedski's support will be the "Interm" and Amestria's will be "Provisional")

From: Provisional Government of Torontia

Sean Keane, Governor, Provisional Government of Torontia

(I believe Saint Fedski's government has been using the term "Provisional" while Amestria's has been using "Interm" to describe the governments they support.)

OOC: It has been the other way around, please edit. Saint Fedski has the Interm Government, Amestria the Provisional...

Concerning the Conference on the Status of the disputes. of Torontia's Provisional/Interm Government: Here is the link

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452566

Message from the New Order Combat Front

To: All nations who occupy Torontian land

The New Order Combat Front (NOCF) is announcing it's decision to dissolve itself.

Colonel Vader Tanakis and former Torontian Minister for Foreign Affairs, Karl Rove, along with our their associates are willing to hand themselves in.

In return for Colonel Tanakis and Mr. Rove facing trial in a court of law, we ask that the following conditions be made:

1.) That ALL nations remove ANY claim they have made to Torontia. Peacekeepers are NOT considered occupation forces and thus can stay to help rebuild our nation and to ensure a new government is established. ANY MILITARY FORCES NOT IN TORONTIA FOR PEACEKEEPING DUTIES, BUT FOR IMPERIAL DESIGNS TO CARVE UP TORONTIA, MUST LEAVE TORONTIA WITHOUT FAIL!

2.) Colonel Tanakis will ONLY face trial in a FREE and FAIR court, independent of ANY state interference in the judicial process. Amestria has already made their trial without Colonel Tanakis being allowed to make his case for a defense in a court of law. Colonel Tanakis insists on the right to a legal defense and will NOT face trial in ANY nation with the death penalty.

3.) That the Lone Alliance and Red Tide 2 cease their attacks on Seattle, given that there is NO 'New Order resistance'! They are killing innocent Seattle dwellers and the Lone Alliance is killing anyone who is within a certain wealth bracket, this vile policy of extreme socialist class warfare must be stopped!

Colonel Vader Tanakis and Karl Rove

Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"The information we acted upon said that there was significant New Order Insurgents inside the city, upon review of the evidence, we found it was several days old, yet the report was released today. The incompetent fool who came up with that intelligence has been... dealt with. Oh yes... the attacks have been called off."
End Message

OOC:'Dealt With' in Red Tidean terms (usually) means the person in question was shot and buried in the Red Tidean Central Desert.

To: Tanakis
From: McKagan State Department

If you are looking for a nation to hand yourself in to, we would ask you to consider that this nation was giving you an offer of exile long before you went into hiding. We will comply with international wishes, and hold you in the best facilities we have available. If you wish to given exile in this nation, we will extract you from your current hiding place, wherever that may be, and a secure transport back to McKagan City.

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski will comply with Col. Tanakis' wishes. In response to his announcment:
1) The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski never had any claim to Torontia and defended against those who did. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski even began building a hospital.
2) The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has already stated it does not condone the death penalty. As this is the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski's first interations with Torontia, it is completely unbiased towards Colonel Tanakis and his followers.
3) The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski also wishes for the Lone Alliance and Red Tide to cease their attacks on the capital of Torontia.

(OOC)

McKagan, Im waiting to see the response of those who occupy Torontia, to see if they will pull out.

Alternatively you could pressure the nations to pull out if Tanakis goes to your nation.

As the New Order threat will be over for good, or at least for a while, after this whole fiasco blows over.

You know me, I have NO stomach to RP a democratic nation, I HATE liberals and Ill be dammed if Im going to RP some do-gooder liberal bastard of a President in any of my nations!

BTW, are you going to try Tanakis???

(OOC)

To: ALL nations.

BTW, in the three demands i made for Tanakis to hand himself over, when I say that NO nations shall imperialise Torontia, that also means Amestria's puppet regime in Port Angeles shall not get ANY recognition or support, as it is NO a real government, but an imperialist front.

Response from Amestria and the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles) to Vader Tanakis Announcement

We refuse to accept anyone of Vader Tanakis' demands.

(OOC: Amestria's leadership has spent/risked too much to allow anything but a Liberal Democratic government to arise. Also Amestria has 20,000 troops in Idaho looking for Tanakis, bump for your reaction to them.)


Amestrian Military Movements

10,000 Amestrian Peacekeepers and 75,000 Torontian Soldiers, escorted by five Destroyers, sail down and take formal possession of Vancouver for the Port Angeles government.

Another 10,000 Amestrian Peacekeepers and 50,000 Torontian Soldiers move down and take formal possession of the remainder of the Torontian West coast for the Port Angeles government.

ooc: Olypmia is occupied by my forces, as had already been stated. If this is just a mistake fine, if not, there will be a skirmish.

ooc: Olypmia is occupied by my forces, as had already been stated. If this is just a mistake fine, if not, there will be a skirmish.

OOC: It was a mistake which has been corrected. What is the status of Port Townsend?

(OOC)

Amestria, Tanakis NEVER objected to a democratic government being created, just one that is TORONTIAN and not a puppet of your nation, given that your so-called provisional government is just that!

In other words a democratic government RPed by ME and one that has authority over ALL of Torontia.

Should you still keep your puppet regime, my DEMOCRATIC govvernment will just use the military to expel the puppet regime and take what belongs to Torontia and NOT YOU!

(OOC)

Amestria, Tanakis NEVER objected to a democratic government being created, just one that is TORONTIAN and not a puppet of your nation, given that your so-called provisional government is just that!

In other words a democratic government RPed by ME and one that has authority over ALL of Torontia.

Should you still keep your puppet regime, my DEMOCRATIC govvernment will just use the military to expel the puppet regime and take what belongs to Torontia and NOT YOU!

OOC: The Torontian Provisional Government (in Port Angeles) is led by Torontians, paid for and supported by Amestria and has control of most of the OP and coastal areas. Torontia at present has no other Democratic government (besides the one supported by Saint Fedski). The New Order lost the war and the country is being reorganized from the outside, just like Nazi Germany. Deal with that fact...

OOC:I just remembered that I dispatched a Carrier Battlegroup off the coast of Torontia... Amestria, your gonna have to deal with that if you attack me.

OOC:I just remembered that I dispatched a Carrier Battlegroup off the coast of Torontia... Amestria, your gonna have to deal with that if you attack me.

Amestrian Military Movements

The Amestrian Carrier group stands down after the Red Tide artillery groups stand down.

(OOC: Amestria has no intention of attacking you unless your forces continue to act crazy. As far as we are concerned your Saint Fedski's problem).

ooc: If you attack Amestria you will have to deal with me and th Republic of North Saint Clair.

ooc: If you attack Amestria you will have to deal with me and th Republic of North Saint Clair.


:confused: TG

(OOC)

McKagan, Im waiting to see the response of those who occupy Torontia, to see if they will pull out.

Alternatively you could pressure the nations to pull out if Tanakis goes to your nation.


I've got like 1000 troops on a beach there. That's it.

As the New Order threat will be over for good, or at least for a while, after this whole fiasco blows over.

You know me, I have NO stomach to RP a democratic nation, I HATE liberals and Ill be dammed if Im going to RP some do-gooder liberal bastard of a President in any of my nations!

BTW, are you going to try Tanakis???

During this whole incident i've had the nation take the stance of simply letting everyone else fight over the land, while we looked for Tanakis.

If Tanakis comes to McKagan, where he has no charges against him, he will be put under protection of the state. The income tax rate in McKagan is 45% (I ignore the one on the NS main page because it changes every two minutes and is hard to RP with,) so that would come out of the money you stated he had at the beginning of the thread. HOWEVER, because of the reputation Tanakis has around the world, if we were petitioned by at least 3 nations, the decision to try Tanakis would go to public opinion. If it was in his favor (against trying him,) he'd be given a reasonable disposable income and an apartment in a McKagan City skyscraper for life. If the public voted to put him on trial, we'd go from there. The trial would have international influence, but be held in McKagan and ultimately come down to a McKagan panel.

Amestrian Military Movements

10,000 Torontian Soldiers and 5000 Amestrian Peacekeepers/one Destroyer take formal possession of Port Townsend for the Torontian Provisional Government in Port Angeles.

Somewhere in the former US state of Idaho

Colonel Tanakis had just finished reading all his latest reports, which dealt with a variaty of issues about himself, what oppurtunities were left open for him and the situation regarding the puppet regime set up by Amestria in Port Angeles.

Karl Rove was sitting at the table too, reading the McKagan offer of exile in their capital city.

Mr. Rove looked up from his papers and started to give his opinions to Colonel Tanakis.

"Given the fact that Amestria, despite our best efforts at goodwill and our desire to bring this whole crisis to a peaceful end, refuses to even consider a halt to their imperial designs on Torontia, it means we shall not go forward with our offer to hand ourselves in for trial."

"Your right, Mr. Rove. Other nations have had a more open mind on this, with the usual exception of the Lone Alliance. But what is anyone to expect from the LA? They are going on a killing frenzy in central Seattle as part of their insane socialist ideology and their delusions that killing anyone who is living on an annual wage of more than $100,000, will somehow bring about a responsible post war settlement. But given the delusions of Amestria and the LA, we cannot go forward with us going to face trial. We gave them the chance for this in return for more than fair demands on our side and they turned us down. If any liberal do-gooders complain that we are escaping 'justice', they will only have Amestria and the LA to blame for that!"

"Indeed, Colonel. Ill inform McKagan that we shall be arriving by private jet to their capital tomorrow at dawn. In the meantime, lets us pack up and get our money and belongings into the plane."

"Yes, Helda is taking care of all of those small issues and loose ends. We be ready to leave in about four hours."

And with that, Tanakis and Rove bagan their preperations to depart for McKagan.

(OOC)

McKagan, is your income tax rates a 'flat rate tax' (45% tax rate for all people regardless of their income) or are your taxes based on each person's income?

Also, I thought McKagan was a capitalist nation?

Your tax rates have a whiff of communism!

ooc: was Saint Fedski over looked Torontia?

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski will comply with Col. Tanakis' wishes. In response to his announcment:
1) The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski never had any claim to Torontia and defended against those who did. The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski even began building a hospital.
2) The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has already stated it does not condone the death penalty. As this is the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski's first interations with Torontia, it is completely unbiased towards Colonel Tanakis and his followers.
3) The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski also wishes for the Lone Alliance and Red Tide to cease their attacks on the capital of Torontia.

(OOC: Can I assume you've sent the letter to me, so I can respond?)

Secret IC:

To: Tanakis
From: McKagan State Department
Subject:

Walker AFB will be accepting your flight. We will go ahead and inform you, we WILL be sending IMAF Ku-25's to shadow your plane. With their long range Air-to-Air missiles no one will be able to get near the plane. Please though, get out of Idaho as fast as possible.

(OOC)

EVERY NATION that had troops in Torontia had to comply with Tanakis's 3 demands.

Even if some agreed to it, the fact that Amestria refuses means Tanakis will now evade trial and is going to McKagan for exile.

If your unhappy with this, blame Amestria, they had a good chance and threw it right back at me.

(OOC)

McKagan, is your income tax rates a 'flat rate tax' (45% tax rate for all people regardless of their income) or are your taxes based on each person's income?

Also, I thought McKagan was a capitalist nation?

Your tax rates have a whiff of communism!

It's flat.

I also think I have that tax rate set a bit high. The way i've always operated is that the only reason for the high tax rate is added social security nets. I actually believe i'm going to peg it lower. What would be good for a mid-capitalist nation?

And with that, Tanakis and Rove bagan their preperations to depart for McKagan.

OOC: Bump for the 20,000 Amestrian troops hunting for Tanakis in Idaho.

TOP SECRET MESSAGE TO MCKAGAN FROM COLONEL TANAKIS

We our on our plane as we write to you. Our co-ordinates our (------------------). Estimated time of arrival to your capital city is 6 hours.

Both Karl Rove, Colonel Tanakis and his PA are on board.

Upon arrival, we would like, if possible, a personal meeting with either your President or one of your ministers, in main to discuss the tax issue, which we feel needs negotiation.

OOC: Bump for the 20,000 Amestrian troops hunting for Tanakis in Idaho.

IC: Message from the State of Amestria and the Torontian Provisional Government (in Port Angeles)

We demand that McKagan withdraw its offer of shelter to convicted war-criminal Vader Tanakis.

OOC: That is SECRET IC. No one has EVER known that we are offering him exile. After he is extracted though, we will go public and start the legal process. If you get hot headed though, we're locking Tanakis down and you NEVER have a chance to see him in trial again!

Torontia, if you feel getting Tanakis out of Idaho would be a problem, TG me and we'll bring CODEX in on the operation.

TOP SECRET MESSAGE TO MCKAGAN FROM COLONEL TANAKIS

We our on our plane as we write to you. Our co-ordinates our (------------------). Estimated time of arrival to your capital city is 6 hours.

Both Karl Rove, Colonel Tanakis and his PA are on board.

Upon arrival, we would like, if possible, a personal meeting with either your President or one of your ministers, in main to discuss the tax issue, which we feel needs negotiation.

Sercet Response

After you come through air port security you will be allowed to talk to whoever you wish. And as we talk the tax issue is being looked over, as it is probably just an accouting error after the last senate race sparked a cyber war on government computers.

OOC: That is SECRET IC. No one has EVER known that we are offering him exile. After he is extracted though, we will go public and start the legal process. If you get hot headed though, we're locking Tanakis down and you NEVER have a chance to see him in trial again!

Torontia, if you feel getting Tanakis out of Idaho would be a problem, TG me and we'll bring CODEX in on the operation.

OOC: Sorry, the post has been edited, could you label them secret a little more clearly in the future...

(OOC)

To: Amestria

The plans for Tanakis to go into exile to McKagan are SECRET IC!

Thus your nation does NOT know of it.

Please re-edit that last post of yours.

To: McKagan

Personally I would NOT be wasting my nations money on umemployed bums who are too lazy to find any work.

My advice, ABOLISH free healthcare, education, all 'social security' benefits etc....

Let your people work for their money and pay for the services, as the private sector always does a better job of delivering better services.

I live in Britain, we have FREE healthcare on the NHS, yet i do NOT use it, it's service is shit, thus I go private!

I have learnt from personal experience that social security and the welfare state are nothing but a huge drain on a nation's budget.

Lower your tax rate to about 12%

OOC: McKagan, do you have a factbook detailing your economy, history and armed forces?

OOC Snip

I can see downsizing healthcare, but the education system will remain open. I think i'll set income tax rates at 15%.

ooc: Make All Ooc Posts Size One! Or If You Have Aproblem Tg The Person To Discuss So We Don't Wreck The Thread.

(OOC)
To: McKagan

Personally I would NOT be wasting my nations money on umemployed bums who are too lazy to find any work.

My advice, ABOLISH free healthcare, education, all 'social security' benefits etc....

Let your people work for their money and pay for the services, as the private sector always does a better job of delivering better services.

I live in Britain, we have FREE healthcare on the NHS, yet i do NOT use it, it's service is shit, thus I go private!

I have learnt from personal experience that social security and the welfare state are nothing but a huge drain on a nation's budget.

Lower your tax rate to about 12%

OOC: Please save such debates for the General Forum (needless to say, I disagree). I don't think you should dictate to Mckagen what his tax rate should be.

Also, TG in any minor OOC quibbles...

OOC: McKagan, do you have a factbook detailing your economy, history and armed forces?

No, oddly.

I meant to do that at one point, then got bored of the game and had to evaluate if I was actually staying or not.

- Brettonian Ministry of Intelligence -

Encrypted Message of The Highest Caliber to the McKagan government

There's been some babble among our intelligence officers that you have decided to take posession of Colonel Tanakis and his men.

While we can't confirm anything at this point, if this is, in fact, the case, we wish you well in your goals to protect the deposed leader.

As always, the Brettonian government stands behind Colonel Tanakis. If you have any difficulties, do inform us. We'll do what we can to assist.

Best of luck.

End Encryped Message

The Red Tidean Super VTOL Carrier, CVN-8

The Red Tidean naval radar system was... unique. The primary Anti-Aircraft and Anti-Missile Ships of the Red Tidean Navy were their Frigates and Destroyers. Each had their own radar and radar screen, but in a Carrier Battlegroups, everything the destroyers and frigates radars saw was uploaded directly to the Carrier and its radar screen aswell as the ships own.

The radarman was watching mostly commercial traffic, the battlegroups H/K-2 fighter patrols, and the Amestrian Carriers fighter patrols. But something caught the eye of the radarman, one commercial airliner was appearing to be followed by some fighters... McKagan fighters. But these were hanging way back, and they were not heading towards them, therefore he did not label it a threat. He ignored it and continued monitoring the area.

OOC:Be glad that the planes were not heading towards the Battlegroup, if they had, they would be intercepted by H/K-2s and told to leave.

Also, Amestria, incase you didnt notice, I will not be bombarding Seattle again.

Also, my nation is rather secular. The Red Tide Goverment only wants to kill Tanakis to further their own interests.

- Brettonian Ministry of Intelligence -

Encrypted Message of The Highest Caliber to the McKagan government

There's been some babble among our intelligence officers that you have decided to take posession of Colonel Tanakis and his men.

While we can't confirm anything at this point, if this is, in fact, the case, we wish you well in your goals to protect the deposed leader.

As always, the Brettonian government stands behind Colonel Tanakis. If you have any difficulties, do inform us. We'll do what we can to assist.

Best of luck.

End Encryped Message

Encrypted Response

We, currently, have no plans on taking Tanakis alive. Our last conversation with him was long before Torontia's latest war. At that time we were offering him a chance to tour a guided missile submarine that had ended up off his coast because of a storm. We will inform you, however, that should Tanakis wish for exile in this nation, we would defend him from the religious dogs he runs from.

TOP SECRET MESSAGE FROM COLONEL TANAKIS TO MCKAGAN

We are approaching your airport, we will be landing in the next ten minutes.

Please ensure that you have the neccessary arangements made for the landing.

(OOC)

McKagan, you can RP the plane landing and your people meeting Tanakis.

Encrypted Response

Ah, is that how it's been? That clears up some nonsense.

We've been unable to establish communication with the Colonel for quite some time, and were beginning to think that the forces of "truth" and "justice" had silenced him.

If you get in contact with the Colonel again, do give him our regards. Chancellor Donner would be pleased if he and the Colonel could meet sometime.

The Red Tidean Super VTOL Carrier, CVN-8

The Red Tidean naval radar system was... unique. The primary Anti-Aircraft and Anti-Missile Ships of the Red Tidean Navy were their Frigates and Destroyers. Each had their own radar and radar screen, but in a Carrier Battlegroups, everything the destroyers and frigates radars saw was uploaded directly to the Carrier and its radar screen aswell as the ships own.

The radarman was watching mostly commercial traffic, the battlegroups H/K-2 fighter patrols, and the Amestrian Carriers fighter patrols. But something caught the eye of the radarman, one commercial airliner was appearing to be followed by some fighters... McKagan fighters. But these were hanging way back, and they were not heading towards them, therefore he did not label it a threat. He ignored it and continued monitoring the area.

OOC:Be glad that the planes were not heading towards the Battlegroup, if they had, they would be intercepted by H/K-2s and told to leave.

Also, Amestria, incase you didnt notice, I will not be bombarding Seattle again.

OOC: Since this isn't really a major plot advance, i won't call it. But i'm just adding, the Ku-25 is our equivilant of the F117. It's designed for deep strike missions inside enemy high value areas, as well as escort missions with it's Macabee built long range missiles. If this were a major plot conflict, I wouldn't accept you "seeing" them that easily.

TOP SECRET MESSAGE FROM COLONEL TANAKIS TO MCKAGAN

We are approaching your airport, we will be landing in the next ten minutes.

Please ensure that you have the neccessary arangements made for the landing.

(OOC)

McKagan, you can RP the plane landing and your people meeting Tanakis.

While flying out of Idaho the plane comes under fire from Amestrian ground forces. There is some minor damage done, but obviously, the plane arrives in Mckagan in one piece

OOC:And the Destroyers radar is VERY VERY powerful. Powerful enough to see a F-22(which is stealthier(SP?) then the B-2, which, in turn is, stealthier then the F-117), plus its got LADAR and other means of detection. Its also got plenty of ECCM so jamming is not as effective as usual.

OOC: ...the F-22 is more stealthy than the B-2? What, are you from Bizarro World or something?

OOC:You mean it isnt? I read somewhere else it was... and I assumed that was because of the fact its development began after the F-117 and B-2 and thus incorporated new techniques in stealth technology.

Walker Airforce (IMAF) Base, 0700 hours, near McKagan City

"Sir... incoming... incoming, it's the Tanakis flight. We have no airtraffic at the time other than the Cobalts, I'm clearing him for landing."

A radio transmission was sent to the plane entailing landing details, and welcoming the dictator to McKagan.

At this point MIMC Marine's began to make themselves viable to each other on the roof's of various surrounding building. The sniper company was the resident security detail for high value personnel on the base. They'd covered, just days earlier, Omar al Zarqawi's removal to Frozopia; and had a random passtime in keeping birds from the landing strip.

Anyhow, the plane had a flawless approach. As it came in it slowed down a bit more extremly than it could have, given that this was a fairly long runway, but it was still within peremeters.

The second the plane stopped an armored sedan appeared on the tarmac. The McKagan Government needed to have AN OFFICIAL on the runway, but that was difficult with Tony Johnson going to Halberdgardia and the Vice President, Charles Vick, busy with the MCID.

Anyhow, Vick was on his way back to the Grey House, and Tanakis would be recepted by a MIMC Officer. Tanakis wasn't allowed to be in the open for long, under 30 seconds. He was quickly ushered into the sedan and rushed towards the underground security bunker complex that was under the base.

He would be held here for a short bit, until he was processed and other issues worked out. Then he would be allowed to meet with the various government officials he would probably wish to. Nonetheless, he was, for the first time in ages, safe.

OOC:And the Destroyers radar is VERY VERY powerful. Powerful enough to see a F-22(which is stealthier(SP?) then the B-2, which, in turn is, stealthier then the F-117), plus its got LADAR and other means of detection. Its also got plenty of ECCM so jamming is not as effective as usual.

I said it was OUR F117, not actually designed LIKE the F117. However, I guess, you would be more likely to detect a wing of them than a single stand alone craft, which is how the plane is designed to operate.

No, oddly.

I meant to do that at one point, then got bored of the game and had to evaluate if I was actually staying or not.
And since you seem to be staying, get to work on it. I'm a quarter complete on mine.

(OOC: It's funny, besides the fact I made the most threats against Torontia, I never fired a single shot. )

OOC: The Lone Alliance has not fired a shot because others have stopped it.

IC:

The Following Speech is delivered on Torontian Television and Radio by President Samuel Burns of the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles)

“The era of the New Order, its petty tyranny, its incompetence, its willful exploitation of the Torontian People, IS OVER! At this moment, Amestrian Peacekeepers and the Torontian Military are restoring order to the nation (OOC: specifically the West Coast/OP, which is peaceful and recovering). The coward Tanakis, who fled his nation with its treasury while enemy missiles approached, will be found and broth to justice.

What is the purpose of the Provisional Government, you might ask, besides restoring stability and cleaning up the New Orders mess… The purpose of this Government, this Parliament, is to create a Liberal Democratic nation which shall be economically prosperous and respected abroad. We will protect private property, we will protect those minorities who were victimized by the New Order. We will insure that Torontia shall enjoy a future of peace and freedom. Our friends, Amestria, have promised that they will not leave until this nation is safe. They will not abandon us, as so many have undoubtedly whispered. They will take the cost of the rebuilding and recovery upon themselves. I assure you all, we are working everyday to build a better future for Torontia, and I urge that all Torontians cooperate with the Peacekeepers and with the Torontian Military in reestablishing internal safety and mobility. Thank you and good night.”

OOC:I am bored... wait! I have a devilish idea to sprice everything up!

IC:Major General Murmansk looked at the orders in his hands, he then proceeded to turn to the radio man and said, "Transmit this back." He then began a long message.

"You do realize that this will take an extremely long time to move the ENTIRE Army there? It will take DAYS just to get everything out of the airport, not to mention the time it will take to get to the location."

There was a brief pause as the message was sent back to Red Tidean Command, then as Red Tide Command typed out its response. It read:

Top Secret Message to General Murmansk from Red Tidean High Command
"We realize that, which is why we have given you no time table, when you are in position, radio us and you will recieve further orders. Confirm"
End Message

Murmansk sighed, then he turned and told the radioman, "Tell them that the order is confirmed." Then he left the communications room, he had alot of work too do.

It had started small, but after 1 hour it was very noticable, it appeared that the Red Tideans were getting ready to leave the airport... by ground. Soldiers climbed into trucks and APCs, tanks, APCs, and other tracked vehicles were driven onto the back of their wheeled transports, artillery and anti-tank guns were being hooked up to the back of trucks, and the troops began packing up, the MDM-4 SAM sites were dissasembled, supply trucks were making signs of preperation to leave, and the helicopter crews climbed into their choppers. Something was up.

OOC: The Amestrian Military or the forces of the Torontian Military forces (under the Port Angeles government) will not let the Red Tide forces anywhere near the coasts or the OP. Just restating that in case you forgot.

The Intelligence Bureau of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski has noticed massive mobilizations in Red Tide. A directive from the highest ranks of the government has ordered complete fortification of the Seattle area.

All citizens of Seattle and the surrounding communites are encouraged to attend the seminars that will be located in various community centres across the area. The topic will be how to help the helpers. It will explain the goals of the Provisional Government of Torontia and how it plans on achieving these goals. Sub-topics that will also be discussed are: defence, law and order and security.

OOC:I am running on the assumption that the airport is SOUTH of Seattle(My atlas does show the cities location in the state... but thats about it :P).

IC:The first clue that the Amestrian and Saint Fedeski forces should have noticed were that the tracked vehicles were being loaded onto their flatbed transporters. Considering that the center of Seattle was just ten miles North of their position, why would they want to load up a Main Battle Tank onto its LONG-DISTANCE transporter?

The second sign was that the Red Tideans had attach their artillery and disassembled their stationary SAMs. If you were going to attack a city that was already within artillery range, why would you attach them to a truck? Something you would do if you were going to MOVE them. And why would you dissasemble the stationary SAMs that could protect them? Unless you were planning on moving those too?

Murmansk decided that having the divisions leave individually would make it go easier, both logisitcally and timely. Therefore, the first division to leave was the 23rd Mechanised-Infantry Division. It rolled AWAY from Seattle, heading SOUTHEAST... AWAY from the coast and Seattle. It was followed several hours later by the 15th Armored Division, followed by the 24th Mechanised-Infantry, and so on. The massive columns of vehicles first went east and then turned south. It followed the Interstate until they came to the fork at Ellensburg, which the divisions then took a left, now heading East.

-Lone Alliance announcement-
We are withdrawing our forces from Seattle, to cause a commotion while the city is under seige would severely hinder operations of the others occuping the nation.

(One Airport is to the south I think.)

OOC: Just use the map of the seattle area I provided.

OOC: Cant find it. :P Anyways, can I have an IC reaction? I would love to see the expressions on your generals faces when they realize that Red Tide isnt going to attack Seattle or Port Angeles.

Realizing that there is little value in holding any sort of territory in Torontia, the Halberdgardian troops holding a 1000-square-mile-claim along the Torontian coast quietly abandon their land, board Halberdgardian Wilson-class Ro/Ro transports, and depart the divided and war-torn nation forever, leaving the powers still present to fight over it as they would. With Tanakis in the hands of close Halberdgardian ally McKagan, there was little value in Torontia itself anymore.
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Near McKagan City Airspace, 1300 Local Time

A nondescript Gulfstream V private jet began its approach to the McKagan capitol city. On board were six HCIA agents and Special Forces Colonel Jack Whittier, veteran of the Monitgnac Civil War. They were ostensibly here to work with MCID on a joint Halberdgardian-McKagan "intelligence wargame," but were actually here to participate in the interrogation and prosecution of Colonel Vader Tanakis, former dictator of Torontia. All were armed with one silenced 9mm pistol and a .50AE Desert Eagle.

The pilot looked down at a scrap of paper taped to the console bank at the special flight designation that was supposed to alert the McKagan liasion to their presence and identity, then opened the radio channel for the international airport's control tower.

"Control, this is flight VHF-601, requesting permission to land, over."

OOC: Hal, did you receive my TG?

Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452689)

That link is basically for just me, Hal, and Torontia to RP the immediate things that happen to Tanakis after him landing.

If you feel you have a reason to be involved in it, TG me and we'll talk about it.

Realizing that there is little value in holding any sort of territory in Torontia, the Halberdgardian troops holding a 1000-square-mile-claim along the Torontian coast quietly abandon their land, board Halberdgardian Wilson-class Ro/Ro transports, and depart the divided and war-torn nation forever, leaving the powers still present to fight over it as they would. With Tanakis in the hands of close Halberdgardian ally McKagan, there was little value in Torontia itself anymore.


Amestrian Peacekeepers and Soldiers of the Torontian Military (Port Angeles) quickly move in and take up the positions left by the Halberdgardians. Torontia's entire West Coast, with the exception of Seattle, is now under Amestrian control.

The Red Tidean Forces kept going, taking a turn they headed north for a little while before reaching another fork in the interstates... they went right and drove down to the city of Spokane, near what was once the state line with Idaho and Washington. It was now in a state of anarchy, but the Red Tideans didnt enter the city just yet, the 23rd Mechanised-Infantry Division(the first division to arrive) stopped just outside of the city limits. The vehicles left the highway and drove to Spokane International Airport.

The airport was mostly abandoned, allowing the Red Tideans to easily seize control. The division had brought with it Red Tidean air traffic controllers, those were quickly rushed to the control tower. Soon the 15th Armored would be there, then the 24th Mechanised-Infantry, followed by the 16th Armored, finally the 6 Infantry Divisions(and their assorted extra brigades) would arrive one at a time. Then the 14th Airborne would come in. That was the plan, and Murmansk intended not to contact his superiors for further orders until every division had arrived.

ooc: Why make an airfield when there's a large one there already? http://www.google.ca/maps?q=Spokane&ll=47.670474,-117.356644&spn=0.204697,0.657532&hl=en

OOC:I dont see it.
EDIT:Oh... okay, I see it, I just needed to zoom in. Ill edit accordingly.

The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski is drawing attention to the fact that Seattlite units have moved into Blaine (on the Canadian border) and have occupied Blaine Municipal Airport, Bellingham International Airport, Bellingham Harbour, and the Tosco Refinery. The US Naval Reservation near Jefferson County Int'l Airport is in use by personnel from the Republic of North Saint Clair under the orders of Gov. Sean Keane.

OOC: Red Tide, there were no New Order forces in Seattle that were resisting the occupation. You just shelled and killed thousands in the area controled by the Saint Fedski backed Interium Government and its allies. It has been under coalition control for quite a while. You just fucked up the entire peace process!

IC: Message from the State of Amestria and the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles)

The Red Tide and Lone Alliance are to cease this attack upon Seattle at once.

*Secretary of State of Stoddenia watches this on television and smiles with a sort of vindication. He then turns the channel to watch Star Wars Episode III, which, while just released elsewhere, has been in pirated distribution in Stoddenia for several months already.*

Amestrian Military Movements

10,000 Amestrian Peacekeepers and 40,000 Torontian soldiers move into the Aberdeen city center. Although it has already been formally established to be under the Port Angeles Provisional Government, it was felt a more concrete presence was needed. Two centralized local governments (one out of Aberdeen, another out of Vancouver) are established to manage the southern areas by order of President Burns.

Having determined that Vader Tanakis is no longer in Idaho the 20,000 Peacekeepers stationed there are flown out and back to the Olympic Peninsula. They arrive vie the Jefferson County international airport.

Xirniumite peacekeeping troops in Saint Fedskian uniforms move into Vancouver on the border between Washington State and Oregon.

Secret IC:

Inquisitor Valorn paced up and down the dimly lit room, smoking quietly as he regarded the man before him with contempt. Suddenly he lashed out, jumping across the table to strike the Torontian officer across the face.

'Are you mad Lord Valorn?' yelled Inquisitor Hoeth as he pulled the intelligence officer back roughly. 'The High Ecclesiarchy will be furious if they discover that you've abused a Torontian prisoner, not to mention that we may lose the support of the Saint Fedski government!'

Inquisitor Valorn shot the Torontian officer a look of pure venom. 'He ordered the attack on a defenceless town, Lord Hoeth,' spat the Inquisitor.

'And you'll see to it that he goes free you stupid fool!' screamed Inquisitor Hoeth. 'The Inquisition is not a law unto itself, we must follow the orders and statutes of the Ecclesiarchy! Even the Inquisiton must quail before the might of the courts.'

'My apologies, Lord Hoeth, he'll stand trial for what he has done. That's vastly more just then what he deserves, what he did to Holy Xirnium.'

The heavy door of the cell opened, and a Saint Fedskian officer entered the chamber. He glanced around the room, but said nothing. 'Thankyou Mr Norman, inform your superiors that we will be extracting the prisoners mentioned in our previous report under the guise of a Saint Fedskian transport,’ Inquisitor Hoeth said smoothly. ‘The Inquisiton appreciates the support you've shown us in this matter.'

Xirniumite peacekeeping troops in Saint Fedskian uniforms move into Vancouver on the border between Washington State and Oregon.


OOC: Amestrian forces already control Vancouver.

IC: Any and all troops from the Saint Fedskia coaltion are prevented by Amestrian and Provisional Torontian forces from entering Vancouver and are forced to turn around!

OOC: Amestrian forces already control Vancouver.

IC: Any and all troops from the Saint Fedskia coaltion are prevented by Amestrian and Provisional Torontian forces from entering Vancouver and are forced to turn around!

OCC: Errm, I'll let Saint Fedski deal with that, I don't have full knowledge of the situation.

To: The Secretary of State of Stoddenia
From: Gen. Maximus Obliqus
Re: Reparations

A refinery in Northern Torontia has been found to be completely intact. It is refine crude at production pace. It has been agreed upon by the Interm Government that trade rights for this oil belong to Stoddenia until all damages have been repaid.

Your's truly,
Gen. M. Obliqus, Overseer of Torontia

To: The Secretary of State of Stoddenia
From: President Burns
Re: Reparations

Torontia will not be paying reparations to anyone, as it cannot afford it. Vader Tanakis took off with the treasury, go ask him for reparations.

-President Burns of the Torontian Provisional Government

ooc:(that was not addressed to you, it wasn't classified, but it was a diplomatic message, and the oil is goin fine so it is being exported to Stod)

Finally the last Infantry Division arrived, the airborne division had still not yet come. But Murmansk decided the wait was long enough. He contacted his superiors via secure channels.

Top Secret Message From Major General Murmansk to Red Tide High Command
"Forces in position at Spokane International... requesting further orders."
End Message

Top Secret Message to Major General Murmansk From Red Tide High Command
"Your orders are to wait for restock and refuel your units and wait for reinforcements, this will consist of a single Battalion of Consortium* Agents, a air wing of SU-47s, and a sqaudron of H/K-1s. Upon recieval you are to begin immediate subjugation and pacification of the city of Spokane through any means short of WMDs."
End Message

Top Secret Message From Major General Murmansk to Red Tide High Command
You do realize that we are still within range of the Amestrian Carrier Groups Aircraft and Cruise Missiles? Despite being this far inland?"
End Message

Top Secret Message to Major General Murmansk From Red Tide High Command
"The Carrier Battlegroup will take care of the Amestrian naval fleet. And if that doesnt do it... thats what the SU-47s and SAMs are for. Confirm Orders."
End Message

General Murmansk sighed, and told the radio man, "Tell them that we confirm the orders." He then turned towards the map on his table. He decided he was going to use the H/K-1 sqaudron as mobile artillery in support of his 3 Infantry Divisions and that Consortium Agent Battalion taking control.

The rest of his forces will face North, South, and West of the airport... with most of them being concentrated on the west side. He had a huge advantage in terms of weaponry, not so much in numbers with the Torontian 'Army'(probably just a ragtag bunch of men thrown together with weapons left over from the Tanakis Regime) probably going to their side. But their superiority in weapons and tactics would win the day.

OOC:You do NOT have knowledge about any of this. All this is Secret IC.

*The Consortium is Red Tides Secret Police/Federal Agency/Intellegince Agency rolled into one. They are quite effective at their job... which is keeping an eye on the local populace and shooting anyone who 'steps out of line'.

ooc:(that was not addressed to you, it wasn't classified, but it was a diplomatic message, and the oil is goin fine so it is being exported to Stod)

OOC: Just establishing the my governments position on the issue, I know it was not addressed to me but they most likely would have found out. Stods. demands for money were well known anyway.

Red Tide, can you list the stats of your navel fleet?

That night 43 Torontian military and government officials implicated in warcrimes against the Xirniumite State were whisked out of Torontia in Saint Fedksian aircraft. The aircraft were ordered to travel towards Saint Fedski airspace before meeting with XAF jets to be escorted the rest of the way to Holy Xirnium.

1 TSUNAMIS Class VTOL Supercarrier
5 M-Battleships
5 G-Battleships
12 TIDAL WAVE Class Destroyers
24 MOCKINGBIRD Class Frigates
12 TC-2C ASW Helicopters
1 Dark Star Drone
35 H/K-1 VTOL Close Air Support Aircraft
55 H/K-2 VTOL Fighter Aircraft

OOC:Need the specifics? Because I havent quite gotten them down yet. Here is the lowdown, the Carriers the flagship and(obviously) the one carrying the fighters and close support aircraft. The M-Battleships are equipped with VLS Missile Tubes... LOTS of VLS Missile Tubes, these can fire MDSM-4 SAMs, CM-2 Cruise Missiles(of all types), and LRASM-50 Anti-Surface Missiles(of all types). The G-Battleships have big 2 turrets, each one sporting 4, 18 inch ETC guns capable of firing a LONG way away. The Destroyers and Frigates are the escorts. They are armed with mostly VLS Tubes capable of firing MDSM-4 SAMs only, as well as ASROC Launchers, CIWS Guns, Anti-Sub Torepedo Tubes, and some of the most sophisticated RADAR, LADAR, LIDAR, and SONAR on the planet.

Now for the aircraft, the H/K-1 is the primary ground attack aircraft used by the Red Tidean Military(both airforce and navy), it can carry any Air-Ground Weapons the Red Tidean Military uses, it has a speed of 500-600 MPH. The H/K-2 is a VTOL Fighter, with mach 2.4 speed and carries 6 ALRAAMs(Advanced Long Range Air-Air Missile) and 4 QMAAMs(Quick Manueverable Air-Air Missile).

President Burns is informed of the Xirnium pressence and goes into a fit. He demands that they leave Torontia immediatelly, that Saint Fadski kick them out for kidnapping Torontian citizens, and that the kidnapped citizens be returned to stand trial before an International Tribunal. He issues the following order.

General Order 15

Any Xirnium personnel found in the areas controled by the Provisional Government are to be arrested for spying.

OOC: They would have realized the Xirnium pressence by now as Torontians would have been reporting it and they tried to enter Vancouver.

OOC: They would have realized the Xirnium pressence by now as Torontians would have been reporting it and they tried to enter Vancouver.

OCC: How precisely? And if your troops had already been in Vancouver mine would never have tried to enter it. You can appreciate it is a little hard to enter an area already occupied by an unfirendly military. I'd like clarification on this point from Saint Fedski.

There are no Xirmium citizens in Torontia. They are legal citizens of the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski.

OCC: How precisely? And if your troops had already been in Vancouver mine would never have tried to enter it. You can appreciate it is a little hard to enter an area already occupied by an unfirendly military. I'd like clarification on this point from Saint Fedski.

OOC: You think you can kidnap/take into custody people without someone seeing it? Also they may wear Saint Fedski uniforms but they would still look like Xirniums and still talk like Xirniums. There would be by now enough antidotal evidence to suggest that the Xirniums have a pressence in Torontia.

OOC: Just establishing the my governments position on the issue, I know it was not addressed to me but they most likely would have found out. Stods. demands for money were well known anyway.

Red Tide, can you list the stats of your navel fleet?


To: Amestria and Saint Fedski.
From: Secretary of State of Stoddenia
Re: Reparation Claims

Gentlemen. Please understand that I only asked for reparations to cover half of the invoice those who volunteered to send forces to our territory would present to us for their services. As we have, to date, been forgiven the cost of deployment by some nations and have not been charged by others, who either deployed to Stoddenia or were preparing to, there has been absolutely no cost incurred by us in defending our State. Therefore, we have no cost to transfer half of to Torontia. We merely sought a guarentee that if such a cost were generated, Torontia would pay half of it, since it was all their fault.

Therefore, the reparations I seek from Torontia are one-half of zero. Which is zero, unless my math is incorrect. As our nation is self sufficient, we require no oil, nor do we currently require cash. We were only interested in obtaining a guarentee, should we incur a cost as a result of the buildup responding to the threat from Torontia, that they would foot HALF the bill. And since you all were thinking only of dividing the country, we discovered that no such guarentee would be forthcoming and so we dropped ALL claims and left the country to the warlords who seek only to carve it up.

We even offered a neutral forum for both war crimes trials and peace negotiations. These very generous offers were absolutely rebuffed, by those, who we feel, are selfishly continuing this war for their own gain, with no consideration for real justice or peace. We have nothing on the table now, and haven't for some time, and are merely getting enjoyment from watching this soap opera unfold here in a land where bourgeoise television programming is unknown. The people of Stoddenia thank you all for the entertainment, that comes to us via international feed, and is called the Nightly News. We have hours and hours of footage of you all posturing, and rejecting peace offers for your own petty concerns, and it interests us most of all how a tiny, dirt poor, egalitarian nation such as ours can get it together after ten years of civil warfare and revolution, but mighty Empires such as your'n are so caught up in taking for yourselves that you cannot even take the time to guarentee that a victim of agression, who is not your enemy at all, will not be made even half-whole at some point in the undescribed future.

What else can I say? The only one with enough foresight to meet with us is the Yallak Empire. If we have one embassy in our Capital City, it is a lot less expensive public works project. It really makes no difference to us one way or another.

Respectfully submitted,
Secretary K., Secretary of State, The United Socialist States of Stoddenia

OOC: You think you can kidnap/take into custody people without someone seeing it? Also they may wear Saint Fedski uniforms but they would still look like Xirniums and still talk like Xirniums. There would be by now enough antidotal evidence to suggest that the Xirniums have a pressence in Torontia.

Xirniumites are not frothing at the mouth maniacs, they are westerners who can easily pass for Saint Fedskians. As for the taking into custody/investigation of officials, how would they know that they are Inquisitors and not Saint Fedskian investigators (especially given many of them are Saint Fedskian investigators, we’ve collaborated on this project). I think you can give my security service the credit for being able to investigate something in a foreign nation without forgetting to take off their identification badges..

Jefferson County International Airport

34 suspected war criminals are flown out of Torontia to stand trial under International Common Law before the Amestrian First Federal Circuit Court.

Xirniumites are not frothing at the mouth maniacs, they are westerners who can easily pass for Saint Fedskians. As for the taking into custody/investigation of officials, how would they know that they are Inquisitors and not Saint Fedskian investigators (especially given many of them are Saint Fedskian investigators, we’ve collaborated on this project). I think you can give my security service the credit for being able to investigate something in a foreign nation without forgetting to take off their identification badges..

OOC: Details do not matter as your Xirnium forces do not have a pressence in the areas controled by the Torontian Provisional Government based out of Port Angeles. So unless they try to enter these areas the order will not effect them. I would hold there is enough evidence to suspect a Xirnium pressence. Notice Amestria is not saying anything on the subject...

OOC: Details do not matter as your Xirnium forces do not have a pressence in the areas controled by the Torontian Provisional Government based out of Port Angeles. So unless they try to enter these areas the order will not effect them. I would hold there is enough evidence to suspect a Xirnium pressence. Notice Amestria is not saying anything on the subject...

I would hold that there is pretty much jack all evidence of a Xirniumite presence in Torontia. At most, you will have confirmed that Saint Fedski supports Xirnium when the trials are held. But I suppose it doesn't matter one way or another, I've got my prisoners and now I can leave this god-foresaken nation to the internal strife it deserves.

Edit: That's a slightly vindictive IC sentiment. The majority of the High Ecclesiarchy and Inquisition are well aware that Torontians aren't responcible for the regime's crimes. They aren't about to get into a war over them though.

Napalm... what a delicious tool of war, the H/K-1s and SU-47s had arrived and were now refueling. Having been a long flight across half of the pacifc and threw Washington State, they were almost dry even with their extra fuel tanks. The K-10s landed perfectly and began to unload supplies, bombs, and that Consotium Battalion and their vehicles. With everything ready, the 1st Infantry Division to go in left their trucks behind and began to walk into the city, supported by the divisions APC-45s and LBT-55s.

The city had quite apparently been waiting for them, the local militias had fortified the city heavily when they heard the Red Tide Military was sitting on the doorstep. The militias were, however, poorly armed and trained. They primarily were using weapons looted from Torontias bases(IE:first generation M-16s, LAWs, etc. etc.). The Red Tidean soldiers moved through the city, erradicating any and all resistance and clearing houses methodically. They also didnt care whether civilians got caught in the cross fire or not. They called down airstrikes on biudlings that were just too heavily defended, again not caring whether there were civilians or not.

However, despite the fact that Red Tide made no announcement of the assault, the news still got out. Primarily it was in the form of news men who had the luck of being in the city when the Red Tideans rolled in, but there were frantic cell phone calls made by some civilians to their families living elsewhere in the state. In several hours, the city was pretty much being reduced to rubble and the casualties of the militias and civilian casualties totalled in the tens of thousands, the Red Tidean Militaries casualties were only a couple of hundred. Large part of the cities had been air striked(in some places by napalm).

Secret Message to Saint Fedski
From: The Amestrian Occupation Authority

Those Red Tide lunatics tearing up the interior of the country has shown the need for a unified Occupation Authority. I suggest we restart the conference with negotiations on how that would be structured. However there can be no more debate over the Provisional Government. This country is badly in need of a unified Provisional Government so we are issuing an ultimatum. Governor Keanes will give up all claim to National Power within the next week and submit to simply being the Governor of Seattle or he will be removed by force.

-General Gran


Public Announcement from the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles)

The Red Tide forces in the interior are to cease there campaign of wanton destruction at once!

Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"Wanton destruction? What wanton destruction? If you mean pacification... yes, we are doing plenty of it. But wanton destruction? Nooooooooo..."
End Message

Amestrian Military Movements

Over the next week, the 200,000 Amestrian troops in transit arrive at Grays Harbor County and Port Angeles. Another 100,000 troops (reserves) are in the process of being flown into Torontia vie Jefferson County International Airport.

Total number of Amestrian Troops in one week: 420,000
Total number of Provisional Government troops/military personnel: 650,000
Combined (in one week): 1,070,000

(OOC: The Amestrian troops have been on their way for some time.)

The two Amestrian Carrier fleets are put on high alert. The Torontian air force, about 300 planes, is also put on high alert.

(OOC: In case you are wondering the Torontian air force was not completely destroyed overseas in the war or during the chaos of the collapse. Torontia still has a lot of planes.)

Amestrian Military Movements

Amestrian Peacekeepers and Torontian soldiers of the Port Angeles Provisional Government take up defensive positions/posters along the unofficial border with Saint Fedski occupied Torontia.

IC:Mid Earth Orbit...

The single sattelite sailed smoothly through its orbit. Then it recieved a signal... a signal that signalled its end. The sattelites solar powered targetting computer went to work, quickly working out its targets coordinates... downtown Port Angeles. The sattelites boosters engaged until it was over the target. Then boosters positioned on the back of it activated, throwing the sattelite out of orbit and putting it at mercy of Earths gravitational pull.

The sattelite gained speed quickly as it hurtled towards downtown Port Angeles. It quickly passed the Hypersonic Barrier(mach 6). The sattelites solar panels began to break off, turning off its targetting computer. Not that it mattered, as the sattelite was already in the proper trajectory. The sattelite itself was shielded to withstand the immense heat and air friction. It already passed Mach 12 and was still gaining speed at the halfway poimt.

When the sattelite impacted, it released enough kinetic energy to level the surrounding city blocks. Although any radar could detect it, nothing could stop it. It was... a Falling Star.

OOC:Now your probably wondering 'WTF?'. Well let me explain, what I just used is known as Falling Star, its a network of suicide sattelites capable of smashing into other sattelites or being hurtled towards Earth as a kinetic energy weapon. Given the speed the sattelites going upon impact(mach 17+), interception is damn well near impossible. Oh sure, you will have warning, radar can easily detect the incoming object. But you have 5 minutes to get the hell out of its blast zone, and that usually isnt enough. It CAN be equipped with nuclear warheads, but the Red Tidean Goverment has chosen not to do so. One last thing, given that it was a sattelite that just attacked you, you would have no idea WHO just attacked you. The evidence was the sattelite and that sattelite was vaporised when it impacted.

-500 Miles West of Torontia, Pacific Ocean-
"We should have known they would do it," Commander Trav of The Lone Alliance Task Force Beta. "We mustn't let the New Torontian Government Fall." "Indeed, prepare for action if need be." The 1st Airborne is ready when ever you need them."

OOC: That would have worked Red Tide execpt We was threatened with the exact same weapon, so we know of them.

Current Forces
-Task Force Beta-
1 Command ship Battle Cruiser
25 PT Patrol boats, 6 Torpedo Tubes one use, 5 in defensive gun. 7.62 AA
50 Armored Transports 3 55cal AA guns
100 Troop Carrier Ships
1 Homeland-Class Battleship
100 Torpedo Boats
4 frigates
4 Ageis Cruisers
8 Destroyers
2 Landing Ships 3 Helicopters
1 Escort Carrier, 4 Gattling AA guns, 2 Sam sytems, Each contains,
14 F-18's, 8 F-14's,4 EA-6B Prowler and 4 Drones copters.
1 Iowa Class VTOL Battleship.
(7 Harriers, 5 Anti Sub Helicopters.)

Army:50,000
Marines: 20,000
Black Ops: ***

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Airborne Group
5000 Soldiers
60 ASU-57
80 Wiesel Light Tanks
55 M551 Sheridan Light Tanks
40 BMDs
AK-104s
FireFly Laser Rifles
RT-20 AT rifles
RPG-3s

OOC:Who is this 'they'?

On the Torontia coastline that is occupied by the McKagan Forces, a Stewart Class Light Amphibious Assault Ship parks offsure. With only 1000 troops left in Torontia, it's all that's needed to extract them. Soon LCAC's come ashore, and the evacuation starts.

OOC:Bump...

IC:Mid Earth Orbit...

The single sattelite sailed smoothly through its orbit. Then it recieved a signal... a signal that signalled its end. The sattelites solar powered targetting computer went to work, quickly working out its targets coordinates... downtown Port Angeles. The sattelites boosters engaged until it was over the target. Then boosters positioned on the back of it activated, throwing the sattelite out of orbit and putting it at mercy of Earths gravitational pull.


An Amestrian Anti-Sattelite Sattelite collides with the "Falling Star" (while still in orbit, at the point above) when it is determined what exactly is happening. The "Falling Star" breaks abart and falls harmlessly into the ocean.

OOC: Your not the only one with satalites, Amestria has been monitoring the area as well and is aware of such a tactic. Do you think the State of Amestria would gather 420,000 of its troops without taking precautions against such as obvious tactic in of MD?

Message to the Red Tide Government from the State of Amestria

If you try anything like that again we will retaliate against your forces in Torontia with nuclear weapons!

(Amestria goes to Defcon 2)

OOC:Wait... wouldnt you NOT know whats going on until it appears on radar? The Falling Star takes 7 minutes to hit the ground, the LAST five minutes of which it is visible on most radars used by SAMs and Airports. The entire process, depending on how far away the sattelite is(we always use the nearest sattelite), takes 9-12 minutes from the time the transmission to the sattelite is sent until impact. You could NOT have figured out what was going on in that time.

OOC:Wait... wouldnt you NOT know whats going on until it appears on radar? The Falling Star takes 7 minutes to hit the ground, the LAST five minutes of which it is visible on most radars used by SAMs and Airports. The entire process, depending on how far away the sattelite is(we always use the nearest sattelite), takes 9-12 minutes from the time the transmission to the sattelite is sent until impact. You could NOT have figured out what was going on in that time.

OOC: Amestrian Anti-Sattelites would have been shadowing your Sattelites the moment they came anywhere near the orbit trajetories of either Amestria's troop deployments or Amestria itself. The moment it started to dropp it would have been hit. I'd say interception took no more then 1-4 minutes. Saying Red Tide would have Sattelites but Amestria would not naturally have counters in place (when it has them) is a godmod if I have ever heard one.

Amestrian Military Movements

Amestria dispatches the 3rd Carrier fleet to Torontia. It will be accompanied by two submarines, which are cable of launching short-range nuclear weapons (not perpetually, they had to be armed and the weapons installed). The Carrier is equipped with special anti-Satellite missiles, still experimental.

The Amestrian forces in Torontia go on high alert.

OOC:My sattelite would have been reentering the atmosphere at mach 3 in 40 SECONDS! But alas, I get your point, ill just use my backup weapon!
PS:Isnt threatning to nuke someone for utilising a conventional weapon a little... extreme?
IC:1,000 kilometers off the coast of Torontia...

The modified TYPHOON Class sub brought itself up to launch depth(called the TYPHOON-RT) and prepared for launch. In its missile tubes were the most powerful non-nuclear weapon Red Tide had, officialy called the Uncontrolled Plasma Reaction Warhead, popularly called the 'Burst-Warhead'. The warhead was mounted on the only missile capable of carrying it, called the SS-32 Devestator.

At the proper time the captain and the first mate turned their keys and all 20 missiles were ejected from their tubes, their engines ignited and they were sent skyward.

These were NOT an ICBM styled weapon, meaning it did not leave the atmosphere. Instead it was a MRBM(Medium Range Ballistic Warhead), these flew too low for space based anti-missile weapons, but they could be shot down by a ground based High Altitude SAM... but the men who had made it had prepared for that too. As the missiles engine kicked out and the warhead cone seperated, the rocket engine fell away. 2 of the warheads were aimed at Port Angeles, 4 more at the Amestrian Naval Fleet, the rest at various army and air bases across Amestrian occupied Torontia.

As the warheads began to plummet at mach 4, miniture boosters began igniting and unigniting at completely random times. This was what was called MARV(MAneuverable Re-Entry Vehicles). This meant that trying to intercept with ground based missiles was near impossible.

The Burst-Warhead was infact made up of many, smaller warheads. These carried a sphere of plasma suspended in a vacuum(hence the high cost to produce the warhead and the missile and the specialized missile needed). As they reached 6,000 feet, the miniture warheads seperated. At 5 thousand feet, air was let into the warheads. When the air reached the plasma, it began to cool and therefore expand. The result was a violent explosion worth 100 tons of TNT for EACH WARHEAD. Since there was ten warheads for each SS-32, the result was that each explosion was worth 1 THOUSAND tons of TNT. Anybody taking shelter underground would be safe, but that wasnt a option for everybody. The Red Tideans were aiming to decapitate the Torontian Provisional Goverment AND erradicate as much of the Amestrian trained Torontia Military as possible.

OOC:My sattelite would have been reentering the atmosphere at mach 3 in 40 SECONDS! But alas, I get your point, ill just use my backup weapon!
PS:Isnt threatning to nuke someone for utilising a conventional weapon a little... extreme?
IC:1,000 kilometers off the coast of Torontia...

The modified TYPHOON Class sub brought itself up to launch depth(called the TYPHOON-RT) and prepared for launch. In its missile tubes were the most powerful non-nuclear weapon Red Tide had, officialy called the Uncontrolled Plasma Reaction Warhead, popularly called the 'Burst-Warhead'. The warhead was mounted on the only missile capable of carrying it, called the SS-32 Devestator.

At the proper time the captain and the first mate turned their keys and all 20 missiles were ejected from their tubes, their engines ignited and they were sent skyward.

These were NOT an ICBM styled weapon, meaning it did not leave the atmosphere. Instead it was a MRBM(Medium Range Ballistic Warhead), these flew too low for space based anti-missile weapons, but they could be shot down by a ground based High Altitude SAM... but the men who had made it had prepared for that too.



Amestrian SAMs and Interceptor missles shoot them down before they separate.

OOC: Will you stop with the "Super-Weapons" (you can't just assume counters don't exist), where did this sub come from? I warn you, I will nuke you if you continue and I do not care how extreme that is!

OOC:I already said HOW that is not possible! I will not point it out again!
:Pauses:
And I have ran out of Superweapons to use...

OOC:I already said HOW that is not possible! I will not point it out again!
:Pauses:
And I have ran out of Superweapons to use...

OOC: I have already pointed out how My fleets have been on high alert (two fleets, not one). They would have detected the submarine the moment it surfaced. The launch would have been detected and as it climbed countered with anti-missles launched from the fleet. They would have intercepted just as your missiles reached there peak and where about to seperate, but they did not. And where did that sub come from?

RMV Raptor, a Sultan Class SSN, sat behind the odd looking Typhoon class submarine that had just fired a payload into Torontia. It and two other Sultan's had been shadowing various submarines in the area after they had completed covering the Battlefleet and Amphibious ship that had been operating in the area. Raptor had no intentions of attacking anyone in the area... yet.

"Sir, that Typhoon targeted units on the coast."

The Captain walked to the strategic station. "Interesting... perhaps this will start a war? I mean, a really BIG war. Keep us tailing the Typhoon, but back off a bit."

The Captain turned and continued, as if he'd forgot something. "Wait... is it someone that's already involved in this conflict? It's not another nation interfering is it?"

The Strategic Operations Officer brought up the ID section of his powerful computer. "We can't be 100% sure, but the Red Tideans have been known to operate this configuration, but I wouldn't want to count people out."

OOC: In both instance these were single instance weapons used stand alone, in other words the full force of my counters would have been available. Had you launched these weapons during a conventional strike it would have been different (the Sattelite most likely not, the Missiles would have hit between 25-50%). But you did not launch a conventional strike, you just used the weapons stand alone, both single weapons...

OOC:1: The submarine did not surface... it launched from underwater, you would have no warning of the launch until the missiles boosters ignited(thats what submarines do in RL). Besides it was 1,000 kilometers away from your fleet.
2:The rocket engine fell away while the missile was still a good 500 kilometers away from your fleet. 3. The warhead would be able to 'dodge' the incoming interceptors, remember it was moving around in erratic patterns(thank you MARV!) 4. I really have to post my policy on my ballistic missile subs... I always have at least 1/2 of them patrolling the Pacific, out of 18 TYPHOON-RTs(of which 3 or 4 are assigned to nuclear duty, the rest carry burst-warheads). 5. You cannot assume that your counters will work perfectly.

EDIT:I launched TWENTY missiles in that last attack, not one, not two, but TWENTY!

OOC: I have already pointed out how My fleets have been on high alert (two fleets, not one). They would have detected the submarine the moment it surfaced. The launch would have been detected and as it climbed countered with anti-missles launched from the fleet. They would have intercepted just as your missiles reached there peak and where about to seperate, but they did not. And where did that sub come from?

OOC: He said the sub came to firing depth, not surfaced. And you saying you shot them all down is a GODMOD! End of discussion on that. The BEST percentage you'll get out of an anti-missile system is 70-80%.

OOC:1: The submarine did not surface... it launched from underwater, you would have no warning of the launch until the missiles boosters ignited(thats what submarines do in RL). Besides it was 1,000 kilometers away from your fleet.
2:The rocket engine fell away while the missile was still a good 500 kilometers away from your fleet. 3. The warhead would be able to 'dodge' the incoming interceptors, remember it was moving around in erratic patterns(thank you MARV!) 4. I really have to post my policy on my ballistic missile subs... I always have at least 1/3 of them patrolling the Pacific, out of 18 TYPHOON-RTs(of which 3 or 4 are assigned to nuclear duty, the rest carry burst-warheads). 5. You cannot assume that your counters will work perfectly.

EDIT:I launched TWENTY missiles in that last attack, not one, not two, but TWENTY!

OOC: And missile anti-missiles can't be smart weapons... Also you are not accounting for the Land based SAMS. Mckagan says 20% have hit so I will bow to that...

IC: 1. No missiles hit the fleets!
2. No missiles hit Port Angeles
3. Port Gray Harbor County is protected, however the harbor is destroyed and the empty transports sunk.
4. The miliary positions on the Saint Fedski border and in Vancouver are hit.
5. Several minor bases are destroyed.

Total causalties: 5,000 Amestrians and 20,000 Torontians
20 aircraft are destroyed.

OOC::twitch:I said MAJOR bases! And I never targetted any docks, only the capitol(with two missiles), the fleet(with four missiles), and the major bases(with the rest)! And these things have the equivalent firepower of ONE THOUSAND TONS OF TNT!

And did I say your anti-missiles were not smart? NO! Its this fact, the missiles are moving side to side at random, while moving at mach 4... It wont completely get away but it will drop the interception rate down a good bit(somewhere 45%)

Amestrian Military Movements

The Amestrian Fleets launch an immediate counter attack against the Red Tide Fleet. All Cruise missles are fired while all fighters are launched. Half stay behind to protect the Fleets while the remainder launch an attack on the Red Tide Fleet. 280 Torontian fighters launch and join in the counter attack upon the Red Tide Fleet.

Note: The primary target is the carrier.

OOC::twitch:I said MAJOR bases! And I never targetted any docks, only the capitol(with two missiles), the fleet(with four missiles), and the major bases(with the rest)! And these things have the equivalent firepower of ONE THOUSAND TONS OF TNT!

And did I say your anti-missiles were not smart? NO! Its this fact, the missiles are moving side to side at random, while moving at mach 4... It wont completely get away but it will drop the interception rate down a good bit(somewhere 45%)

OOC: twitch! These troops are Peacekeepers, they are SPREAD OUT amoung the Civilion population, doing Humanitarian work and all that jazz. If you had targeted purely Torontians you would have gotten higher results, but you did not. The few major Amestrian concentrations (what could be called bases) are in Ports and on the Saint Fedski-Amestrian border. I will also not accept anything over 20%, it was a stand alone weapon and all my forces were on high alert!

As soon as the enemy missiles were launched at the Red Tidean Battlegroup, the Red Tideans fired back, VLS missile tubes on the M-Battleships opened up and began firing LRASMs and CM-2s in rapid succession. The Foromer carried 5 hundred pound warheads, the latter 2000 pounds. The LRASMs moved at Mach 2.3 and were sea skimmers, the CM-2s were also sea skimmers and moved at 400-600 miles per hour. In all, 500 CM-2s were launched and twice as many LRASMs.

As the enemy cruise missiles reached the 70 Kilometer Mark, the VLS SAM tubes on the Destroyers and Frigates began firing. MDSM-4 Surface-Air Missiles blew Cruise Missile after Cruise Missile out of the sky. As they got to the 10 kilometer mark, the CIWS opened up. Swivel and fire until target destroyed, rinse lather repeat(OOC:I need an exact number of Cruise Missiles before I can post any damages(same goes for naval aviation).

RMV Raptor went to its maximum depth as it tracked multiple surface targets.

Excellent. The more engagements, the more loss of life. With the more loss of life and other assets, the more costly this occupation becomes to the Red Tide and Amestrian Governments. Then we can begin Operation: End of Days

Amestrian Military Movements

Several (5) Punishment missiles are prepared for launch.

The Punishment missile: The latest in Amestrian coventional Strategic weapons. It has three warheads equal to 1,000 tons of TNT and is launched as a strategic missile against the target to be "punished". In space the warheads seperate and plummet to earth, exploding just above the target (while heading straight down).

As soon as the enemy missiles were launched at the Red Tidean Battlegroup, the Red Tideans fired back, VLS missile tubes on the M-Battleships opened up and began firing LRASMs and CM-2s in rapid succession. The Foromer carried 5 hundred pound warheads, the latter 2000 pounds. The LRASMs moved at Mach 2.3 and were sea skimmers, the CM-2s were also sea skimmers and moved at 400-600 miles per hour. In all, 500 CM-2s were launched and twice as many LRASMs.

As the enemy cruise missiles reached the 70 Kilometer Mark, the VLS SAM tubes on the Destroyers and Frigates began firing. MDSM-4 Surface-Air Missiles blew Cruise Missile after Cruise Missile out of the sky. As they got to the 10 kilometer mark, the CIWS opened up. Swivel and fire until target destroyed, rinse lather repeat(OOC:I need an exact number of Cruise Missiles before I can post any damages(same goes for naval aviation).

OOC: Let me post the stats on my fleet in moment...

OOC: twitch! These troops are Peacekeepers, they are SPREAD OUT amoung the Civilion population, doing Humanitarian work and all that jazz. If you had targeted purely Torontians you would have gotten higher results, but you did not. The few major Amestrian concentrations (what could be called bases) are in Ports and on the Saint Fedski-Amestrian border. I will also not accept anything over 20%, it was a stand alone weapon and all my forces were on high alert!

OOC:... shouldnt it be the Amestrians doing the peacekeeping and not the Torontians? And McKagan, the TYPHOON-RT Sub is nowhere near the two battling fleets.

OOC: Ah, well, just keep it there, shadowing the Typhoon; while you two kill each other.

OOC:... shouldnt it be the Amestrians doing the peacekeeping and not the Torontians? And McKagan, the TYPHOON-RT Sub is nowhere near the two battling fleets.

OOC: The Amestrians are doing the Peacekeeping with the assistence of the reorganized Torontian Military. The Torontian troops exist in greater concentrations (because of there larger numbers, lack of Torontian SAMS, this is their home country, ect.). A great deal of the positions are informal, so you would also have a hard time establishing targets.

IC: Amestrian anti-Sattelite Sattelites precede to destroy any Red Tide sattelites above Torontia or Amestria (Amestria has a lot of them, its main space weapon).

IC:The Red Tidean Anti-Missile/Anti-Sattelite Laser Sattelites began to shoot down any Amestrian anti-sattelite sattelites that got too close to the Red Tidean Sattelites

OOC:The missile and aircraft numbers please... as well as a IC response to my retaliation would be nice too.

IC:The Red Tidean Anti-Missile/Anti-Sattelite Laser Sattelites began to shoot down any Amestrian anti-sattelite sattelites that got too close to the Red Tidean Sattelites


OOC: Since they simply ram into them (and rember this is restricted pretty muc to Torontia) how effective would such defense be? What is your success precentage?

OOC:I have approximately 50 sattelites along the equator, given that the 10 over Mexico/Gulf of Mexico have a pretty good shot at and over Torontia, I would give it over 95%.

Amestrian Fleet Stats

Fleet 1: One Super Carrier: 85 fighter aircraft
14 serface to air missiles
12 "cruise missiles"
20mm Phalanx CIWS Mounts
12 Frigates: Standard armaments, One Cruise Missile, One Anti air missile
7 Destroyers: 2 cruise missiles, 2 anti air missles
2 "Battleships" (these are not Battleships in the fact they have big guns, Amestrian battleships are missle platforms): 20 cruise missiles, 25 anti air missiles

Fleet 2: One Minor Carrier: 40 fighter aircraft
12 serface to air missles
12 "cruise missles"
10mm Phalanx CIWS mounts
12 Frigates: same
7 Destroyers: same
2 "Battleships": same

The Red Tide fleet is being hit with what can be classified as 154 "Cruise Missiles".

It will then be shortly after they hit be attacked by Amestrian 65 fighter aircraft+ 280 Torontian aircraft.

Remember primary target is the Carrier.

OOC:I have approximately 50 sattelites along the equator, given that the 10 over Mexico/Gulf of Mexico have a pretty good shot at and over Torontia, I would give it over 95%.

After downing one Red Tide Sattelite, (surprised by the losses) the remaining anti-Sattelites are ordered to hold back and await orders for interception.

Public Announcement from the Interm Government of Torontia

All forces shall cease combat. This is a peacekeeping mission, not a war. Torontian Militia has been armed. Saint Fedskian Troops are on high alert. An strike against area controlled by The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski or the Interm Government of Torontia shall be recieve appropriate retaliation. Once again, all forces shall cease combat.

Public Announcement from the Interm Government of Torontia

All forces shall cease combat. This is a peacekeeping mission, not a war. Torontian Militia has been armed. Saint Fedskian Troops are on high alert. An strike against area controlled by The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski or the Interm Government of Torontia shall be recieve appropriate retaliation. Once again, all forces shall cease combat.

Phone Call from General Gran to the Saint Fedskian Interium Government/Military Command

"Shut up you idiots! THEY FUCKING ATTACKED US FIRST, FUCK IT! You had better support us and launch an attack upon the Red Tide forces in the interior NOW! I HAVE 25,000 dead on my hands from THOSE BASTARDS SNEAK ATTACK!"

This call takes place on a secure line.
"General I hate to do this but seeing as I remember we had a talked about security once, who now has the secure site? Definitely not you. Like we said, we will support you, even though you didn't support us. In the interest of peace, we will give ample time for Red Tide to back off before we enter the conflict." General Maximus Obliqus replies calmly. "All our forces on alert and our ships are all prepared to launch offensive strikes. I have been advised that more troops from the formidable army of North Saint Clair will be available for me to command. I will call you once they have arrived." Max slowly hangs up the phone and begins walking back to his desk.

"They call us idiots and expect help? They try to sabotage our interm government and they expect help? They threaten us and the expect help? They try to bully us and push us around and they expect help? If it was up to me, too bad it isn't, but if it was, I'd let them rot until they were begging for help." He mutters aloud to himself furiously.

He buzzes his secretary "Laura, can you place an urgent call to all senior officials and have them meet in the Situation Room? Thank you."

(OOC: lots of sattelites are there?)

-Lone Alliance message-
As the Government of Saint Fedski has been neutral currently any attempt to attack either Saint Fedski or their nearby Interm Government of Torontia
will be considered an unforgivable act of War. That is all.

OOC:Only 124?! That will be easy to deal with, the aircrafts... not-so-much. I also will assume that the Torontian Aircraft will be F-16s(which they probably are, given that those are the aircraft that Torontia used before the New Order collapsed)

IC:Since the carrier was at the center of the Battlegroup, the last missile was destroyed as it passed inbetween two G-Battleships. Speaking of the G-Battleships, they began to fire their 18 inch ETC guns at the enemy fleet continiously. The 1,000 LRASMs, and 500 CM-2s(with the CM-2s lagging behind due to their slower speed) kept travelling towards their targets.

The Aircraft were met by every single H/K-2 VTOL Fighter the Red Tideans have(that is, all 55 of them). They began to lock on with their AIM-140 ALRAAMs and fired at 80 miles(about 10 miles inside their engagement range). Dispensing every ALRAAM they had(6 per aircraft, 55 aircraft... I am NOT going to do any math here).

OOC:Ill have to go to Youth Group soon.

Secret IC:
I want those sattelites targeted. half Ion Charge for the first two then fall back.

-Space High Altitude Arctic Circle Orbit.-

A single sattelite appoached from the north from just outside the Hunter Killer sattelites Line of Sight. It prepared to move in far enough to target the first two Red tide sattelites.

OOC:Only 124?! That will be easy to deal with, the aircrafts... not-so-much. I also will assume that the Torontian Aircraft will be F-16s(which they probably are, given that those are the aircraft that Torontia used before the New Order collapsed)

IC:Since the carrier was at the center of the Battlegroup, the last missile was destroyed as it passed inbetween two G-Battleships. Speaking of the G-Battleships, they began to fire their 18 inch ETC guns at the enemy fleet continiously. The 1,000 LRASMs, and 500 CM-2s(with the CM-2s lagging behind due to their slower speed) kept travelling towards their targets.

The Aircraft were met by every single H/K-2 VTOL Fighter the Red Tideans have(that is, all 55 of them). They began to lock on with their AIM-140 ALRAAMs and fired at 80 miles(about 10 miles inside their engagement range). Dispensing every ALRAAM they had(6 per aircraft, 55 aircraft... I am NOT going to do any math here).

OOC:Ill have to go to Youth Group soon.

OOC: 154 "Cruise Missiles, not 124. And it is 344 fighter aircraft that is attacking the Red Tide fleet, right after the missile strike. The primary target was the carrier, it was not the only target! What are the hits? (As Mckagan said there is no such thing as a perfect defense system, at least 20% get through) And the Amestrian fleets are seperate and out of "gun range" (their not stupid). Your fleets will have to move closer to use their "guns".

The 1,000 LRASMs, and 500 CM-2s(with the CM-2s lagging behind due to their slower speed) kept travelling towards their targets.


OOC: How can there be that many?

IC: The Amestrian fleets deploy their anti-aircraft missiles and all their counter measures, the 20mm CIWS begin to shoot the slower CM-2s as they approach. the 64 fighter aircraft attempt to intercept and destroy the missiles.

Red Tide, TG!

Note: The Amestrian Fleets are seperate, so one just can't target the "Amestrian Fleet".

Amestrian Military Movements

Several (5) Punishment missiles are prepared for launch.

The Punishment missile: The latest in Amestrian coventional Strategic weapons. It has three warheads equal to 1,000 tons of TNT and is launched as a strategic missile against the target to be "punished". In space the warheads seperate and plummet to earth, exploding just above the target (while heading straight down).

The Punishment missiles are launched. Target: The Red Tide Military forces in Spokane (the military facilities). As they gain orbit the remaining Amestrian anti-Sattelite Sattelites over Torontian space attack the Red Tide Sattelites which could intercept or shoot down the missiles (so they will be busy having to defend themselves, also the launch is unexpected). The warheads seperate in orbit and plummet towards Earth. Between 5-15 should hit the target. It will be completelly unexpected, right out of the blue, a fire ball right above the Red Tide Forces before they can look up.

How many Red Tide troops/Torontian civilians actually die is irrelievent (how spread out are they?), the military facilities at Spokane will be destroyed, the command killed, contact with the outside world lost.

Shortly afterwards a message is sent to the Red Tide Government explaining it was a conventional weapon, not a nuclear weapon and that Amestria would be willing to sue for peace.

Glorious Confederacy of Leafanistan

We hearby announce support for Red Tide forces. Any attacks on Red Tide controlled territory is considered an affront to Red Tidean sovreignty and will be responded to as such. However in order to keep the peace we suggest that we all back down and talk about this.

END

The silos in Leafanistan opened up, a plume of smoke and suddenly several missiles lept out from them. Inside they carried a swarm of microsatellites, the idea was to protect Leafanistani spy satellites currently in the area.

Glorious Confederacy of Leafanistan

We hearby announce support for Red Tide forces. Any attacks on Red Tide controlled territory is considered an affront to Red Tidean sovreignty and will be responded to as such. However in order to keep the peace we suggest that we all back down and talk about this.

END

The silos in Leafanistan opened up, a plume of smoke and suddenly several missiles lept out from them. Inside they carried a swarm of microsatellites, the idea was to protect Leafanistani spy satellites currently in the area.
I like how people who haven't been involved in this just decide to get involved.

*the Secretary of State whistles the Theme from Star Wars in his office watching the entire thing explode... A staffer interrupts* "Sir, shouldn't we be doing something to help these people?"

*the Secretary of State laughs* Sorry, we are a neutral nation. They want to kill themselves let them. But we will not commit one drop of Stoddenic blood to their greedy causes. *just then the phone rings, the Secretary picks it up* Yes? Well, if it isn't Docus himself?! Where the hell have you been, old bean?... Oh... I see... very well, I'll be there within five hours... *The Secretary of State turns off the television in his office, and departs for the Airport.*

I like how people who haven't been involved in this just decide to get involved.

OOC: Yeah... TG!

Official Imperial Edict
To: All Governments in Torontia
From: The Imperial Palace, Arrandin

You were warned.

We clearly stated that unless peace and agreement was achieved in Torontia, the Empire would return and remove you. Most of you did not even respond to the said warning.

Now we must remain true to our word. The Imperial Fleet is turning around and heading straight back to Torontia as you read this. If it arrives and fighting still persists then lethal force will be used.

You have just under 4 (NS) hours to desist from hostilities. The consequences of those who fail to do this will be dire. There will be no second chances.

His Eminence, The Imperial Chancellor Lord Merrech.

I like how people who haven't been involved in this just decide to get involved.

Leafanistan has been part of this storyline longer than you've been a member of this site.

The plan was starting to take effect. Fighting was engulfing the entier region. Soon the nations who were at war would be feeling economic downturns. The regimes of the nations would begin to have approval drops. Eventually, they would be forced into the sea.

At the moment, however, that was not Raptor's current mission. For the most part naval engagements had been minimal. No real high value assets had been sent to the bottom.

That needed changing.

Just minutes earlier Raptor had came to the depth acceptable for firing torpedoes. The Sultan Class, which would appear on sonar as a Virginia Class submarine, had five forward torpedo tubes. Carrying 35 torpedoes, using all 5 of the ones currently loaded would be more than acceptable, considering it had no other planned targets.

"Sir, we TRAINED at taking Typhoon class submarines down. Those were always our hypothetical enemy. I find it slightly odd that we're actually doing it."

Now, a submarine that was designed to do nothing more than follow other subs and keep tabs on them, was engageing one in order to start a war.

As the 5 torpedoes came from the tubes, targeting the underside of the massive Typhoon Class submarine, the Captain of the Raptor thought of the grand scheme of things.

Should all go as planned, and the Typhoon not survive, Red Tide would suspect Amestria of the attack. Since there was absolutely no McKagan presence left in the area, and Red Tide had been on good relations with McKagan in the Frozopia war, no one would suspect them anyway. Then, on a much larger scale, Yallak was moving a naval armada into the area. Threatening death to anyone who continued to fight, this would definately do the job. While the armada was an awesome site that the lone Sultan could not engage, the Sultan would be faster to escape to the North and continue to watch the battle.

At the moment, however, that was not Raptor's current mission. For the most part naval engagements had been minimal. No real high value assets had been sent to the bottom.


OOC: The Naval battle's outcome has not been RPed yet, on account of Red Tide being gone. But it looks like both fleets will by wiped out in a matter of minutes.

OOC: The Naval battle's outcome has not been RPed yet, on account of Red Tide being gone. But it looks like both fleets will by wiped out in a matter of minutes.

Meh, that doesn't really matter in this case. As the Typhoon is "nowhere near the other fleet."

Radio Message from the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles) to the Torontian Interim Government (Seattle)

In light of recent events, we will agree to the power sharing agreement suggested by Saint Fedski. Both governments shall continue but the capital of the National Government shall be moved to Olympia, where a National Council, made up equally of members from both sides, shall administer the Nation of Torontia as a whole.

-By Order of President Burns and General Gran

OOC: How can there be that many?

IC: The Amestrian fleets deploy their anti-aircraft missiles and all their counter measures, the 20mm CIWS begin to shoot the slower CM-2s as they approach. the 64 fighter aircraft attempt to intercept and destroy the missiles.

Red Tide, TG!

Note: The Amestrian Fleets are seperate, so one just can't target the "Amestrian Fleet".

OOC:first off, its called RELOADING! Second off, the missiles will target the nearest fleet. Third off, the Anti-missile.Sattelite Sattelites have priorities, as soon as they detect the missiles leaving the atmosphere, they will blow it out of the sky. My nation has back up Anti-Missile/Sattelite Sattelites which can be launched in a matter of hours. Fourth, can you explain how your 'Punishment' missiles work? We explained how our Burst-Warheads work. But so far as I can tell, you did not. Fifth, Where are you launching the missile FROM?! If you are launching them from Amestria and you are not located in the Americas, the sattelites on other parts of the equators will easily deal with the missile. Finally, the numbers increase the more interceptors there are and the fact that the CUISE MISSILES are flying in a straight line helps nicely... compared to my BALLISTIC MISSILES which were moving SIDE TO SIDE as they descended!
EDIT:A few more things, I have a MDM-5C, a Anti-Ballistic Missile Missile Site deployed with my forces, it is sufficient to take out any of your ballistic missiles that make it through.

The IYS Kilgorin, Captain Urian had taken command of the Emperor's ships in his absence for talks in Stoddenia. He listened cheerfully as the announcement of Saint Fedskian and Amestrian co-operation was intercepted.

It is in this moment that Red Tide realises their mistakes

He picked up the ships communicator and sent a message to the Amestrian forces.

Encoded Imperial Transmission
To: Amestrian Naval Forces
From: Captain Urian

The Imperial Fleet is inbound on your location. We will be in firing range of the enemy in under half an hour.

He switched a button on the ships radio and began to broadcast to the Imperial Fleet.

"All ships prepare for engagement. Launch all fighters and ready weapons."

Red Tide would learn this day - The will of the Empire cannot be defied.

OOC:Yallak, I just have been going over your troop numbers and have decided. Your troops appear to be armed with Machettes and the such. You have TOO MANY TROOPS! I, a nation geared towards manufacturing massed amounts of weapons for selling and fighting reasons, have a force of 20 million TOTAL, I figure I can up that to 25 million but that would begin to place a strain on my economy. But on the other hand, your the one who caused Torontia to collapse... so I am sort of at an impasse with ignoring you and pretending everything in this RP did not happen, or trying to RP with you. IC Edit forthcoming.

OOC:first off, its called RELOADING!

:confused: What do you mean by that?


Second off, the missiles will target the nearest fleet.

Ok, that would be the Second Fleet.


Third off, the Anti-missile.Sattelite Sattelites have priorities, as soon as they detect the missiles leaving the atmosphere, they will blow it out of the sky.


Then they will be blown out by the remaining Anti-Sattelite Sattelites and The Lone Alliance laser thing (which is also attacking). Also no system is perfect...


My nation has back up Anti-Missile/Sattelite Sattelites which can be launched in a matter of hours.

Too late for to stop that launch...


Fourth, can you explain how your 'Punishment' missiles work? We explained how our Burst-Warheads work. But so far as I can tell, you did not.

It is a N2 bomb, a powerful non-nuclear explosive, similar to your weapons explosive potential.


Fifth, Where are you launching the missile FROM?! If you are launching them from Amestria and you are not located in the Americas, the sattelites on other parts of the equators will easily deal with the missile.

Amestria...


Finally, the numbers increase the more interceptors there are and the fact that the CUISE MISSILES are flying in a straight line helps nicely... compared to my BALLISTIC MISSILES which were moving SIDE TO SIDE as they descended!

They can't all be shot down...

OOC:Oh yes they can... Given the amount of ships I have and their weapons, verses the number of cruise missiles you launched... you get the picture.

And I just remembered, my ground forces still have that MDM-5C Launcher, any missiles that survive my Anti-Missile/Sattelite Sattelites(and most likely that is one) will be blown out of the sky by the thing. I give faliure for one missile for one target to be 25%... and there are SIX missiles in the launcher(with more standing by to be reloaded).

OOC:Yallak, I just have been going over your troop numbers and have decided. Your troops appear to be armed with Machettes and the such. You have TOO MANY TROOPS!

[OOC: He really doesn't. (25,000,000/3,361,000,000)*100 = approximately 0.69%. A 25-million-man standing army for a nation of nearly 3.5 billion is actually quite small. He could even claim 25 million fighting men and still be within reasonable bounds; he's got an All-Consuming economy, after all. You really don't have much grounds to ignore him.]

OOC:Oh yes they can... Given the amount of ships I have and their weapons, verses the number of cruise missiles you launched... you get the picture.

OOC: You still have not explained the reloading remark, what did you mean by that...?


And I just remembered, my ground forces still have that MDM-5C Launcher, any missiles that survive my Anti-Missile/Sattelite Sattelites(and most likely that is one) will be blown out of the sky by the thing. I give faliure for one missile for one target to be 25%... and there are SIX missiles in the launcher(with more standing by to be reloaded).

There are 15 war-heads and your sattelites are under attack...

OOC:Yallak, I just have been going over your troop numbers and have decided. Your troops appear to be armed with Machettes and the such. You have TOO MANY TROOPS! I, a nation geared towards manufacturing massed amounts of weapons for selling and fighting reasons, have a force of 20 million TOTAL, I figure I can up that to 25 million but that would begin to place a strain on my economy. But on the other hand, your the one who caused Torontia to collapse... so I am sort of at an impasse with ignoring you and pretending everything in this RP did not happen, or trying to RP with you. IC Edit forthcoming.

They are not unrealistic for a nation my size. Of those numbers i have a ratio from about 1:8 to 1:11 in combat soldiers to logistics.
Also i have done all the maths on how many tanks, ships etc etc to my defence budget.
Third - my nations industry is built around designing and producing the most advanced weapons for the Empire's use. You ar enot the only country in Nationstates who focuses on the military.

[OOC: He really doesn't. (25,000,000/3,361,000,000)*100 = approximately 0.69%. A 25-million-man standing army for a nation of nearly 3.5 billion is actually quite small. He could even claim 25 million fighting men and still be within reasonable bounds; he's got an All-Consuming economy, after all. You really don't have much grounds to ignore him.]

I actually have a 110 million man army but that is still only 3.15 percent (less now actually because my pop is a hundred million more since that calculation)

Secret Transmission to Amestria: Encrypted. 38#( 3*$32j3828583 *3# #*#*(38 *#(*@ *#*#** ** *##421!(* **(# @*//(* *3(* (*(*(*32q (Check TG)

-Open announcment-
We applaud the actions of the merger of the two governments.
We also would like to alert Leafanistan. We may have been allies in the past, but the Red Tide has no sovreign right to Attack the other nations in Torontia. Your claim that they are attacking Red Tidean sovreignty by defending themselves is complete and utter bull. We Advise you to turn around. And To all nations any further ICBM attacks will be shot down.

-Lone Alliance Space Command-
Set for 1/4 power four shots fire at will, this is maxmium range shot pick those targets carefully.

-Space-
As the Punishment missiles reached their ceiling the Red Tide Sattelites stopped fighting the Amestrian Sattelites and went towards the missiles. As the first neared a large High energy beam came in from the north and impacted it. Another of the Red Tide Sattelites moved into the beams path and was destroyed. A second shot took out another Red Tide Sattelite, as well as the Amestrian Sattelite that was trying to destroy it. The third shot missed completely flying off into who knows where, but the final shot clipped another of the Red Tidean Sattelites that had been closing in on the Missiles damaging it's flight path and throwing another Red Tide Sattelite off course to avoid Collision. However the Laser's Charge had worn off and the Retro rockets fired, pulling the Lone Alliance Space Weapon back out of the Line of Sight reading of most of the current combantants. However the damage was done, two of the Amestrian missiles had been protected and a third seemed to be cleared of most of the threats.

-Space-
As the Punishment missiles reached their ceiling the Red Tide Sattelites stopped fighting the Amestrian Sattelites and went towards the missiles. As the first neared a large High energy beam came in from the north and impacted it. A second shot took out another Red Tide Sattelite, as well as the Amestrian Sattelite that was trying to destroy it. The third shot missed completely flying off into who knows where, the final shot clipped another of the Red Tidean Sattelites that had been closing in on the Missiles damaging it's flight path. However the Laser's Charge had worn off and the Retro rockets fired, pulling the Lone Alliance Space Weapon back out of the Line of Sight reading of most of the current combantants. However the damage was done, two of the Amestrian missiles had been protected and a third seemed to be cleared of most of the threats.

You really should edit that...you can't claim that anything was destroyed - they have to make their own casualties. You can only say what you shot at.

And I just remembered, my ground forces still have that MDM-5C Launcher, any missiles that survive my Anti-Missile/Sattelite Sattelites(and most likely that is one) will be blown out of the sky by the thing. I give faliure for one missile for one target to be 25%... and there are SIX missiles in the launcher(with more standing by to be reloaded).

Two punishment missiles get through and you lose some sattelites (the launcher is another story, what happens with that is up to you)...

I will RP the missiles hitting the Second Fleet the moment you explain what you meant by Reloading...

You really should edit that...you can't claim that anything was destroyed - they have to make their own casualties. You can only say what you shot at.

(OOC: It's hard to wait on casualties on attacks that happen instantly. Instant attacks at the speed of light have no countermeasures. If a beam the size of a car heads at you the speed of light you can't dodge it.)

Screw ICBM's, screw satellites, lets get on with a good RP and stop the arguing

I'd have to agree, enough with the nukes and Death Stars. that's why I'm removing all my 'space junk' now.

OOC: No need to remove it, lets just assume all "space junk has been exhausted.

OOC: Besides all that stuff would get expensive, So lets keep it out of combat from now on.

(OOC: It's hard to wait on casualties on attacks that happen instantly. Instant attacks have no countermeasures. You can't block the speed of light. But everyone just count it as an estimation.)

fair enough but you should at least add that in an OOC comment at the end of your post.
For now though can we cut all the tech wanking and OOC bickering - thats why i wasn't intending to come back to this thread in the first place after i left (even though i said i would). Screw ICBM's, screw satellites, lets get on with a good RP and stop the arguing

I'd have to agree, enough with the nukes and Death Stars. that's why I'm removing all my 'space junk' now.

OOC: No need to remove it, lets just assume all "space junk has been exhausted.

Red Tide, I TG'd you the Amestrian Plane stats.

Radio Message from the Torontian Provisional Government (Port Angeles) to the Torontian Interim Government (Seattle)

In light of recent events, we will agree to the power sharing agreement suggested by Saint Fedski. Both governments shall continue but the capital of the National Government shall be moved to Olympia, where a National Council, made up equally of members from both sides, shall administer the Nation of Torontia as a whole.

-By Order of President Burns and General Gran

This has been agreed upon.

OOC:I can agree with these things, okay, Ill stop with the Burst-Warheads and Falling Stars... oh and by what I mean by reloading, you think the VLS tubes are single use? Of course not! They can be reloaded rather quickly(for a missile launcher) and easily. Some VLS Tubes can even hold multiple missiles!(at least... I think)

IC:"INBOUND BALLISTIC WAHEADS!" The primary radar operator yelled. Within a couple of minutes the order was given to intercept the missiles with the MDM-5C, 6 missiles on the two warheads, 3 missiles per warhead. The launcher achieved lock on the first warhead and fired off its 3 missiles. They rose, releasing white exhaust as they rose to meet their targets. Then the RADAR locked onto the other warhead and it was once again raised to be met with 3 more missiles.

The first missile on the first warhead missed, the second got it. The warhead was blown apart in midair, shrapnel rained down on the other end of Spokane.

Now eyes turned to the second warhead, first missile missed, as did the second,

"GODDAMNIT!" General Murmansk yelled, he looked over at the radar operator, his rank was Private. No fear showed in his eyes, only... a blank face? Well it was hard to tell under that armored gas mask.

The final missile moved through the air, seeking something moving extremely fast, coming in, 500 feet, 400 feet, 300 feet, 100 fe-.

The radar blip expanded and then blinked out of existance. The high ranking officers breathed a sigh of relief, although they did flinch when the remains of the warhead came down on a nearby hanger, destroying some civilian aircraft which had yet to be removed. Then there was silence, one question remained through in all of the high ranking officers minds, 'What now?'

The Red Tidean Battlegroup...

The ships began to make a fast a U-Turn as possible. The main body of the Red Tidean Forces in Torontia were well inland. The Red Tidean command decided to have the carrier group make a run for it. The fighters that were engagin the enemy air attack began to run away, after firing their last ALRAAM of course.

OOC2:Oh yeah, Yallak, your fighters... where are they heading?

OOC:Those were conventional warheads not C4 or nuclear, just the fact of blowing them up would have detonated them. So the 100 feet up one will have leveled some of the airfield. EDIT: What about the sound? Something that big exploding no matter how high up will give of a very loud boom.

OOC:Err... The distance thing was related to the distance of the intercepting missile to the warhead, not nessecarily the distance of the warhead to the detonation point(which, I remind you, is 5,000 feet).
EDIT: DOH! I forgot to post the loss of my TYPHOON-RT!
IC:The modified TYPHOON, despite its upgraded SONAR, still didnt hear the McKagan Submarine until it opened its torepedo tubes, the Red Tidean Sonarman gave a warning, but little the TYPHOON did made much of difference, with 5 torepedos on it, it was as good as dead, even with its double hull. The TYPHOON broke apart in a terrific explosion that could be heard for a mile or two by SONAR. Then it sank to the bottom, its crew dead.

OOC:I can agree with these things, okay, Ill stop with the Burst-Warheads and Falling Stars... oh and by what I mean by reloading, you think the VLS tubes are single use? Of course not! They can be reloaded rather quickly(for a missile launcher) and easily. Some VLS Tubes can even hold multiple missiles!(at least... I think)

The Red Tide Missiles pass a second volley of Cruise Missiles from the Amestrian fleet(s) (154, this time targeting the outer vessals/Carrier) heading towards the Red Tide Fleet. The Red Tide Missiles inflict heavy damage upon the Amestrian Second Fleet. Nine Frigates, 2 Destroyers are destroyed and 1 battleship damaged. They all sustain some form of damage, with the exception of the Carrier, which is at the center. Both fleets move away from the Red Tide Fleet. (You ok with this?)


The Red Tidean Battlegroup...
The ships began to make a fast a U-Turn as possible. The main body of the Red Tidean Forces in Torontia were well inland. The Red Tidean command decided to have the carrier group make a run for it. The fighters that were engagin the enemy air attack began to run away, after firing their last ALRAAM of course.


The fighters give chase and they will catch up! The remaining 64 Amestrian fighters which had been guarding the fleet(s) also give chase.

OOC2:Oh yeah, Yallak, your fighters... where are they heading?

Nowhere yet. They are on CAP above the fleet.
Anyway i have to go now - ive got uni work to do - but i'll be back on tomorrow

OOC:Err... The distance thing was related to the distance of the intercepting missile to the warhead, not nessecarily the distance of the warhead to the detonation point(which, I remind you, is 5,000 feet).


OOC: Some things will be damaged, however minor. Can you also post the command staffs reactions (they have no idea what is going on and for all they know those were nukes). Also, remember the Red Tide government knows they are not due to the Amestrian message, which was sent no matter if they hit...

OOC:I would say its a little low, but then again the LRASM doesnt have a very powerful warhead(for a anti-ship missile) and the CM-2 is pretty easily intercepted. Can I also have the damage inflicted on your aircraft? Also, my casualties will be somewhat guessed, due to the fact that I do not know the warhead size on those missiles.

IC:The Battlegroup saw the enemies incoming missiles and fighters. The H/K-2s turned back, hoping to get distract the enemies airplanes, they charged forward, trying to get the enemy within range of their very short ranged QMAAMs. When the cruise missiles reached the Red Tidean Battlegroup, they were once again were shot out of the sky by a mix of SAM and CIWS fire, but this time about 20 got threw. Four frigates were heavily damaged and probably wouldnt make it, two of them suffered some damage. One frigate was sunk completely, Three destroyers were moderately damaged. One of the M-Battleships had some visible holes ripped in it(thankfully above the waterline), the worst casualty was probably the carrier, most of the missiles had struck here. Several fires had been started, a dozen H/K-1s were lost, a small hole had been ripped in at the water line(the room was quickly sealed off with bulkheads), and the Carriers men were trying to put said fires out, following procedure.

OOC: Some things will be damaged, however minor. Can you also post the command staffs reactions (they have no idea what is going on and for all they know those were nukes). Also, remember the Red Tide government knows they are not due to the Amestrian message, which was sent no matter if they hit...

OOC: Dont worry, I wont nuke you!

IC:General Murmansk was resting just outside of his comand post. The adrenline that had been pumping through his blood while he watched that warhead descend was draining out and the fatigue that so often followed these situations had set in. He was thinking over about his life and such. For all he knew, if that warhead had not been intercepted, they could all be dead by now. He sighed, stood up and walked back into the tent. Praying that his goverment would find someway out of this mess.

OOC:I would say its a little low, but then again the LRASM doesnt have a very powerful warhead(for a anti-ship missile) and the CM-2 is pretty easily intercepted. Can I also have the damage inflicted on your aircraft? Also, my casualties will be somewhat guessed, due to the fact that I do not know the warhead size on those missiles.

OOC: You were not targeting the aircraft (I would say 50% of 50% of the 64 aircraft just joining the battle have expended all their missiles). All the ships in the 2nd fleet, except the carrier, are damaged. If you like I could have several sink later.

The Aircraft were met by every single H/K-2 VTOL Fighter the Red Tideans have(that is, all 55 of them). They began to lock on with their AIM-140 ALRAAMs and fired at 80 miles(about 10 miles inside their engagement range). Dispensing every ALRAAM they had(6 per aircraft, 55 aircraft... I am NOT going to do any math here).

Thats the post where I posted my fighters attacking your planes. EDIT:And no, you do not have to sink them, maybe some that you may want to sink, but not all of them.

Thats the post where I posted my fighters attacking your planes. EDIT:And no, you do not have to sink them, maybe some that you may want to sink, but not all of them.

Final Amestrian Losses for above dogfight
The dogfight was brief. 23 Torontian Planes and 5 Amestrian planes were shot down.

OOC:I thought I Rped MY men, and why are you RPing my losses? And further more, why dont you post responding! But anyways, given that that there were 55 H/K-2s, each with 6 ALRAAMs... thats 330 missiles, but dont despair! there is the jamming and other countermeasures to consider, including chaff, flares, and pulling off some manuevers. Ill ask the rest of you guys on advice about this.

OOC:I thought I Rped MY men, and why are you RPing my losses? And further more, why dont you post responding!

I have corrected it.


But anyways, given that that there were 55 H/K-2s, each with 6 ALRAAMs... thats 330 missiles, but dont despair! there is the jamming and other countermeasures to consider, including chaff, flares, and pulling off some manuevers. Ill ask the rest of you guys on advice about this.

Now on the subject of Amestrian/Torontian lossess... Heres some links on the 129 Amestrian planes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F/A-18E/F_Super_Hornet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F/A-22_Raptor

MESSAGE TO ALL WARRING PARTIES
The Holy Empire of Saint Fedski and the Office of the Governor of Seattle

A convoy of 10 freighters, 2 ferries and a cruise ship carrying relief supplies and medical/connstruction personnel. There are no military personnel or equipment on board any of the vessels aside from the escorts. Two Quickbreaker Class aircraft carriers, ten Vittorio Veneto Class cruisers, six Iroquois class destroyers, ten Halifax Class frigates and two Fremantle Class patrol boats. They have just entered the Strait of Juan de Fuca.

Press Conference St. Clair

The Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau, the Deputy Prime Minister, Joe Clark, the ministers of Foreign Affairs (Paul Martin), Defence (Art Eggleton), and Public Relations (Hugo Chavez) walk into the silent room with expressionless faces. For the usually lively politicians, this was quite a change in character.

Such changes only happened when troops were sent over seas, when the economy was in trouble or when a national hero died. If someone had died, it certainly would've been released already. If the economy was in trouble an economist would certainly have made it public. But, rumours had been circulating for weeks that soldiers had been sent off to Torontia to aid in the Fedskian forces that had gone over there.

The Prime Minister takes to the podium, takes a deep breath and then begins speaking with as much emotion as was on his face. "Citizens of the Republic of North St. Clair, you are most certainly well aware of the situation in the land of Torontia where our neighbors are leading a peace movement. I have heard the rumours that our boys and girls, our men and women have also been sent there. This is true. So far, no casualties have been reported and everything is progressing well. The conflict with the Free Land of Plympton-Wyoming is nearing its end. Once that is done, those forces will be given 3 days leave and then sent to Torontia as well. As part of the Holy Empire of St. Fedski we must aid our brothers and sisters in bring peace to this troubled nation." The Prime Minister takes another deep breath and rejoins the line of ministers. Hugo Chvez then takes to the podium.

"I will now take some questions. Yes, CBC news?"

"How many troops are currently over there?"

"An undisclosed amount. Jean Gellar of the Morning Star?"

"There are reports that nuclear, biological and/or chemical weapons have been used. Is this true and will our soldiers be exposed to it? If so, what precautions have been taken to protect our soldiers?"

"No such weapons have been used. Go ahead Sunny County Gazette."

"How many troops are currently in Plympton-Wyoming? When can we expect that conflict to end?"

"There are currently over forty thousand troops taking part in Operation Four Fifty Six. It will be over by Christmas. That is all the questions for this evening."

The Ministers posed for a couple quick pictures and then solemnly walked back in the door the came as a low murmur from the crowd began.

Message from the Amestrian Government to the Government of Red Tide

We propose a cessation of hostilities provided the Red Tide fleet leaves Torontian waters and returns home immediately.

-President Boon of the State of Amestria

(OOC: This message would take about 24 hours to be sent, received and acted upon, so it would not have any effect on the outcome of the current ongoing naval battle).

OOC:Probably my last post for tonight...
IC:Spokane International

The Red Tideans were preparing for something, apparently involving the sqaudron of H/K-1s satationed there. They were arming the planes with HARM(High Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles). Their escorts would be the Su-47s also stationed at the airport. Their goal would be to take out the enemies radar network.
OOC2:Information on the Sukhoi-47 here: http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/s37/index.html#s376

OOC: Red Tide, TG!

IC: The Amestrian Occupation Authority advises Saint Fedski to put all its planes in the air and prepare for air attacks from the West.

Since arriving in Torontia, the Combat Engineering Battalions began repairing and expanding already existing bunker and also began constructing large, solid underground concrete bunkers. It is within these bunkers in Olympia that the Joint National Council has set up it's capital.

Secret Info about the design:
In order to minimize damage and casualties incase of an attack, the rooms are kept small and no hallway is without a 90 degree turn every ten feet. The bottom level of the bunker contains one large room able to hold 50 people with enough room to be comfortable, 65 people may feel a little cramped, but they can still operate. No more then 70 people can fit into the room. Air ducts have been created that extened up large buildings and miles out in the farming areas. In the event of a gas attack, these vents can be closed off and the others opened in order to protect the oxygen supply. There is enough room for 300 people to live as comfortable as possible (given the conditions). Unfortunately, no heating or cooling systems have been contructed yet. There is a kitchen and four bathrooms all with plumbing. Bathing facilities are provided by 2 public showering areas, each divided into sections (1 for the men, one for the women). Most rooms have electricity. There are 5 radio/communication rooms, 2 of which are operated by Saint Fedski and Amestria.

The Joint National Council of Torontia has assembled at the new capital of Olympia. It shall serve as the National Government until elections for the assembly to draft a new constitution can be held (supposedly one year from now).

OOC: Link here

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452846

Endgame. The Imperial Fleet had reached firing range of the Red Tidean forces. Captain Urian, arrived on the Kilgorin’s bridge. A Lieutenant stood waiting for him.

“The Fleet is awaiting your orders, Sir.”
“Very well Lieutenant, carry on”

Urian once again walked across the room and picked up the ships radio.

”Attention Red Tidean Forces. You have five minutes to stand down and withdraw from the area or you will be destroyed.”

Forces from the Torontian Interm Government and the Holy Empire of Saint Fedski have been spotted as far west as West Richard.

Secret IC:
Soldiers marching in white, anti-radiation suits entered the building. It was deserted, not a soul in site. They entered the offices and found all of the papers and documents still there. The site had been untouched during the chaos. "Thank god" they thought. If a terrorist or rogue nation or somebody had gotten here before they did, things could've been quite bad. There was enough nuclear material here to make a couple bombs. Enough to take out most of the nation.

"General, we have secured the Hanford Nuclear Reservation. With your permission, I will arrange to have some technicians come down and bring the plant to life." A Colonel radios to General Obliqus in Olympia. "We must have at least two fighter wings providing cover. We don't want this falling into the wrong hands. There's a ton of material here. The technicians will have to sort it out as I am no expert but according to the inventory list, if someone had gotten here sooner, we could've been in a heap of trouble."

"Colonel, I will do whatever I can. I will get back to you as soon as I have more information. We may not be able to provide two wings directly, but we can locate a couple squadrons in Yakima and some more somewhere between Yakima and Seattle. Colonel, I know you need it pronto. I will get someone to work on it and they will contact you as soon as they can. The meeting is about to begin, I can't be late. Good luck. Over and out."

OOC: Torontia occupation site has been updated http://www.angelfire.com/creep/fff17/torontia/Torontia.html

OOC:Yallak, your message makes little sense, are you talking to my naval forces or my ground forces? If the former, they are leaving the area. If the latter, they are well inland and would have plenty of warning to an oncoming attack.

Secret IC:The Red Tidean Goverment had plans to reinforce the Army currently there with ANOTHER Corps. That would jump the number of Red Tidean soldiers from 370,000 to 545,000 soldiers. They would also reinforce the airforces there with 2 more Su-47 airwings and another sqaudron of H/K-1s. But with the enemy fleet in the way, the route had to be changed.

This was less of a problem for the K-10s, who could fly anywhere given mid-air refueling. The Su-47s and H/K-1s would be more difficult, they would have to equip every hard point the planes had with extra fuel tanks, even then they would have to mid-air refuel. So it was done. Of course it would take time for the entire corps to arrive there.

OOC:Bump.

Address to International Community

We would be interested in possibly putting together a conference for the commanders of each nations' forces in this theatre. The McKagan Government has came to the conclusion that it would be best if we tried to stem the violence in Torontia. By doing this, we feel it best to take stress off the opposing sides. We would be VERY interested in talking to the individual (waring) nations about them reducing their troop levels, and possibly setting in stone a plan to pull out of this nation altogether.

So here we are. We extend an open hand to any and all of the waring parties to send representatives to a McKagan Revolver-Class Heavy Cruiser that is near Torontia. It is within (most) helicopters' range. We will be providing security, so the maximum number of guards is 3 with sub machine guns.

Encrypted Communique to Revolver-class Heavy Cruiser

From: HCIA Special Agent Somerson

If it's OK with you, Captain, I'd like to attend this peace conference of yours to observe and report its events back to my government. I'll also act as a relay from my government to you and your government on possible courses of action, based on the goings-on at this conference. I'll have the standard weapons loadout (silenced 9mm and .50AE) with me, nothing more.

Hope this works for you.

End Encrypted Communique

Encrypted Message to HCIA Special Agent Somerson

Ah, yes. You are more than welcome to come aboard this vessel for as long as you wish. I didn't know the HCIA has any agents in this area though? That's interesting. Anyhow, where are you? Do you require a ride, or are you going to get here yourself?

Signed,
Captain Robyn Downs, Commander, RMV Defiant

Address to International Community

We would be interested in possibly putting together a conference for the commanders of each nations' forces in this theatre. The McKagan Government has came to the conclusion that it would be best if we tried to stem the violence in Torontia. By doing this, we feel it best to take stress off the opposing sides. We would be VERY interested in talking to the individual (waring) nations about them reducing their troop levels, and possibly setting in stone a plan to pull out of this nation altogether.

So here we are. We extend an open hand to any and all of the waring parties to send representatives to a McKagan Revolver-Class Heavy Cruiser that is near Torontia. It is within (most) helicopters' range. We will be providing security, so the maximum number of guards is 3 with sub machine guns.


From the Government of Stoddenia
To McKagen Forces

McKagen Government, good luck. We have already tried this tactic and were threated by, I believe it was Saint Fedski, because apparently we were pissing them off. It was then implied that we were little more than opportunists ourselves, for trying to get the opportunists who have innitiated these struggles, to come to a neutral environment for talks to end the war.

Therefore, our government would advise you not to push this issue too far or too hard, because these forces fighting it out in Torontia are likely to view you as a potential threat to their aggregation of Torontian territory under thier control. Just a suggestion, but "peace talks" have already been tried, and if they conflict with the various countries schemes for this land grab, you may find yourself at the barrel of the gun.

Good Luck,
The Government of Stoddenia

To: The Government of Stoddenia

The aim of the conference is to pave the road to peace by helping nations work towards reducing their claims and/or influence gradually, and equally. (among the other nations)

Coming from a nation that has NO claims or INTERESTS in the theatre, it is hard to say that we are looking to advance our own agenda. We are simply trying to stop the loss of human life that is happening because nations feel the need to compete with each other.

--Capt. Robyn Downs

Encrypted Message to HCIA Special Agent Somerson

Ah, yes. You are more than welcome to come aboard this vessel for as long as you wish. I didn't know the HCIA has any agents in this area though? That's interesting. Anyhow, where are you? Do you require a ride, or are you going to get here yourself?

Signed,
Captain Robyn Downs, Commander, RMV Defiant

Encrypted Response

To: Captain Robyn Downs, RMV Defiant
From: Special Agent Somerson

I have been in the country for some time, ever since the withdrawal of our forces from our coastal claim. I have remained silent, simply observing. As to how I will make it aboard your vessel, I have a request to make of you. I will make my way to the following coordinates of relatively unwatched coastline at 2400 tonight, where I am hoping you will be able to dispatch a small team of soldiers or crewmen in a Zodiac raft or an equivalent, whereby we would then return to your vessel. If this is not satisfactory or possible, I will attempt to procure another means of transportation.

[GPS coordinates of rendezvous point]

End Encrypted Response

To: The Government of Stoddenia

The aim of the conference is to pave the road to peace by helping nations work towards reducing their claims and/or influence gradually, and equally. (among the other nations)

Coming from a nation that has NO claims or INTERESTS in the theatre, it is hard to say that we are looking to advance our own agenda. We are simply trying to stop the loss of human life that is happening because nations feel the need to compete with each other.

--Capt. Robyn Downs

Captain, we had no claims or interests in the theater, we just wanted to know whether or not we could get some reimbursement for a bill that never materialized for a threat of invasion that was absolutely unprovoked by the country that threatened us and our existance. We have always maintained our neutrality, we had zero troops in theater, and I was invited there to discuss the matter and dispense with it before all this land grab nonsense began by the very power that later threatened me with invasion. Because we are a new nation, and lack the awesome military might of these ultra-aggressive, nuclear powers, our concerns were pushed aside and any suggestion of peace talks was at very best ignored, at the very worst, responded to with threats of invasion.

We're just saying...

Encrypted Response to Halberdgardian Agent

Embarked aboard this craft are several platoons of MIMC's who are high trained at (light) amphibious landings. Trained to do just this mission, they can come ashore very quickly, quietly, and agressively. The MIMC operates a Avalon TS boat that has proven itself multiple times. So, as requested, tonight at 2400 the LCAC like (ooc: it's not that large, it just reminds me of one) craft with 6 Lightly Armed Marines will come ashore. If all goes well, they will be in and out before anyone could determine your location, anyhow.

--Capt. Robyn Downs

Encrypted To: The Government of Stoddenia

Ah, I think I understand.

These large nations were simply trying to avoid any chance to stop their hypocritical imperialism, and since you are a much younger nation, they used terrorism (by threatening military action, by definition) to keep talks down.

McKagan isn't a pushover nation. We'll keep knocking on their door until something happens.

--Capt. Robyn Downs

Encrypted Response to RMV Defiant

Excellent. I will see you at 2400 tonight.

--Special Agent Somerson

End Encrypted Response

Good luck Captian. If the Government of Stoddenia can be of any assistance in your efforts to facilitate these peace talks, let us know.

Good luck Captian. If the Government of Stoddenia can be of any assistance in your efforts to facilitate these peace talks, let us know.

This vessel is fully self sufficient, so we won't need any assistance. But we're officially opening up the conference to you. If you would like to sit in on the meetings, you're more than welcome.

I doubt I would have anything to input, being that I lacked a dog in the fight. But on a side note, you are welcomed to establish diplomatic relationships with our nation. We have diplomatic facilities and can offer you a military mission within our country if you would like to expand your nation's forward preparedness. If you are interested, please send a representative to our Embassy Row. (OOC: the link is at in my signature). it seems that you are a nation of peace, and so you are welcomed to visit us there.

Serenely,
The Government of Stoddenia

Address to International Community

We would be interested in possibly putting together a conference for the commanders of each nations' forces in this theatre. The McKagan Government has came to the conclusion that it would be best if we tried to stem the violence in Torontia. By doing this, we feel it best to take stress off the opposing sides. We would be VERY interested in talking to the individual (waring) nations about them reducing their troop levels, and possibly setting in stone a plan to pull out of this nation altogether.

So here we are. We extend an open hand to any and all of the waring parties to send representatives to a McKagan Revolver-Class Heavy Cruiser that is near Torontia. It is within (most) helicopters' range. We will be providing security, so the maximum number of guards is 3 with sub machine guns.

Reply from the Amestrian Occupation Authority

Please address such requests to the National Government in Olympia.

2400 Hours, Nearing GPS Coordinates Given by HCIA Agent

Avalon Tactical Systems (no, not related to the Sarzonian company) had put out a long line of systems. Being the lead defense contractor in McKagan, they had purchases shipbuilding companies, aviation companies, and bought out many of their competitors in the firearms market. Because of all the areas this company occupied, it could produce a unit around it's own products and not have to worry about failures in it's finished products because of other people's mistakes.

"God dammit, how ARE we supposed to find this dude anyway! It is... kinda... DARK!"

The Marine that would later be positioned on the nose of the highspeed vessel, mounting it's forward mini-gun.

"Like I know, we're going to hit the beach and set off a thermal grenade. Hopefully this HCIA guy will see it before whoever owns this beach does."

"Yeah, I'm only taking a shortened KT-3. If we have to fight for long, you better have us pointed so that minigun is useful. At least, so we can get out fast."

---------------------------------
Only a few moments later the vessel was nearing the beach. Hitting the beach, almost instantly Marines were over the deck and setting up defensive positions.

Two of the Marines, both weilding SAW's, deployed to each side of the vessel. The teams sniper set up his sniper station ahead of the minigun. The three riflemen moved up the beach. The combat engineer setting up a thermal grenade, which didn't do anything other than burn, would alert anyone watching over nightvision that the Marines had landed.

Amestrian Military Movements

Both Amestrian fleets continue to move away from the Red Tide fleet. The 1st Fleet launchs a third volley of its 78 Cruise Missiles. The Target, the Red Tide Military facilities at Spokane (the International Airport). The 2nd fleet makes its way to Port Angeles harbor, as it is preoccupied with the possibility several of its ships are in danger of sinking.

The H/K-2 went into evasive manuevers, loosing every bit of chaff and flares they had. Out of 55 of them, 4 were blown right out of the sky, 6 were sent spiralling(their pilots ejected), and 2 had damage. The H/K-2s ran away, kicking the afterburners to the extreme.

Official Reply From Red Tidean Goverment To Amestrian Goverment and Current Torontian Goverment
"We accept the truce and wish to meet on the McKagan ship to work out terms of a peace."
End Message

Only a few moments later the vessel was nearing the beach. Hitting the beach, almost instantly Marines were over the deck and setting up defensive positions.

Two of the Marines, both weilding SAW's, deployed to each side of the vessel. The teams sniper set up his sniper station ahead of the minigun. The three riflemen moved up the beach. The combat engineer setting up a thermal grenade, which didn't do anything other than burn, would alert anyone watching over nightvision that the Marines had landed.

Little did the Mckagan force know that there was at that moment a joint Amestrian/Torontian coastal patrol on that beach that night. 10 Amestrian Peacekeepers and 20 Torontian soldiers. They heard the splashes/waves made by the boat/men as Mckagan's came a-shore.

"Whose there? Under order of the Amestrian Occupation Authority and the Torontian Provisional Government we hearby place you under arrest for violation of the curfew!"

Official Reply From Red Tidean Goverment To Amestrian Goverment and Current Torontian Goverment
"We accept the truce and wish to meet on the McKagan ship to work out terms of a peace."
End Message

The Amestrian Occupation Authority accepts the Red Tide acceptence and calls off the attack on the Red Tide fleet, however the meeting shall not take place in the Mckagan ship but in Seattle!

(OOC: This will have no effect on the Cruise Missiles as they were just launched. Also the attack on the fleet carried on for a little longer while the Amestrian fleet recieved the message. Please RP that).

The Amestrian Occupation Authority accepts the Red Tide acceptence and calls off the attack on the Red Tide fleet, however the meeting shall not take place in the Mckagan ship but in Seattle!

(OOC: This will have no effect on the Cruise Missiles as they were just launched. Also the attack on the fleet carried on for a little longer while the Amestrian fleet recieved the message. Please RP that).

See what I mean? No neutral shall conduct the talks, because the warring powers feel they should have the rights to do so... As a result their opponents won't sit down with them, because they themselves feel that they should have the same rights...

It's amazing how consistant some countries can be in the pursuit of Empire. justice and/or peace be damned.

Lone Alliance Message to McKagan:

We will be sending our best Delagate Verta to this meeting. His body guards will be two of our most elite guards. They will be each armed with an MP2 and a dart gun. Verta will have a single 9mm and a dart gun. To any nations, around, we advise you not to pull a Frozopia.

See what I mean? No neutral shall conduct the talks, because the warring powers feel they should have the rights to do so... As a result their opponents won't sit down with them, because they themselves feel that they should have the same rights...

It's amazing how consistant some countries can be in the pursuit of Empire. justice and/or peace be damned.

Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authority to Stoddenia

Stoddenia can kiss our collective asses!