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Great Romeo
22-08-2005, 03:16
An independent state, but influenced by Great Romeoan policies, along with military protection. In the eyes of Sharina, Costa Rica has been merely a puppet state of Great Romeo, in all but name.
"Strongly influenced", yes. But still a seperate country on a seperate continent.

No. It has been Sharina's intention to take Costa Rica for over thirty years. We did not do so while the UFSR was in existence, and with the demise of the UFSR, it is once again an opporunity for Sharina to achieve one of its elusive goals.

The Costa Rican people cannot truly be happy living under the rule of a distant European power, while billions of people are living more luxuriously and prosperous in native American nations of Sharina and Norleans. I do not believe the Costa Rican people would just up and decide to join an European power instead of their native brothers and sisters. It is human nature to band with one's neighbors, or should this not come to pass, migrate to new lands.
Believe it or not, they are happy. The Costa Ricans really do not associate with "their neighbors" that well. They have always been friendly to foreigners, and do not mind foreign influence. In addition, they enjoy the history of being the safest, cleanest, and most stable country in Latin American. This is all unlike their neighbors. And this is all without our influence. We have spent trillions of dollars improving the Costa Rican economy since then. They now, as a state of the Republic, have rights to perticipate, and run in, Serbian and Romanian elections, as well as their own.

Therefore, I call bullshit on your declaration of the Costa Rican people being happy with European rule by someone thousands of miles away, and hating Sharina, a neighbor with living standards, employment, technology, education, health care, and so forth superior to most of Europe, save Great Sixth Reich and USSNA. This does not make logical sense.
Yes it does. Costa Rica is 1/3 of our entire nation. They now can even run in Serbian and Romanian elections. Participate in a space program. And recieve special aid, since the Republic only has one acquired country to care for, while Sharina has several dozens. They would not like to be a tiny speck on a map like they would be in your empire.

It is only your stuborness that prevents this from happening peacefully, without millions of deaths happening.
Ditto to you.

Sarey and Martollea were essentially non-nations as their military, economy, and infrastructure were nearly non-existant. Tenebricosis could have easily smashed their way through Sarey and Martollea to reach Whittier over land. In addition, Vineyard could have closed off nearly 90% of Whittier's coastline by blockading the Iraq Sea. Then Whittier would have roughly the same amount of coastline as Great Romeo.

You have declared "Sharina is too afraid to fight Great Romeo alone, so it calls upon allies. However, we will fight like real men." You are being defiant right now in face of opposition potentially greater than the entire UFSR. Where was this defiance back then? You were afraid of a nation significantly a fraction of your size in power and population, namely Vineyard? You could have easily crushed Vineyard, and spared the men to man your northern borders aganist Tenebricosis. Afterwards, you would have had access to the Mediterrean Sea, bypassing Zuhair Malik (even though Zuhair Malik has never participated in any military action or appear to have any modernized military systems). Yafor2 was a tiny pacifist nation, of no consquence as their military was anemic. The only true threat would have been Vineyard and Tenebricosis, not Yafor2 or Zuhair Malik.

What's more, there have been ample opporunities for Great Romeo to break away from the UFSR. Several instances include the time Vineyard fought Wirraway, the battle between Vineyard and Ato-Sara + Warta Endor in the Middle East, and the tense standoff between Vineyard and Sharina over Jamaica.
We were ruled by a dictator (Gaylord Fokker V) back then. We are not anymore (We are ruled by a Senate), since the dictator disappeared. That is why we act differently now. The dictator may have acted cowardly, or even anti-Sharinian, but we admit that. But we now have a new government, one that would not mind establishing relations with Sharina.

Having a Soviet Union sized military right in the middle of Sharinan sphere of influence, as well as holdings (Between North and South America) does not sit very well with the Sharinan people. They view such massive militaries as a prelude to an invasion, otherwise, there would be no need for such oversized militaries for a small nation. A small nation like Costa Rica would only need approximately 100,000 peace-keepers tops, not 3 million. Ditto for only needing 100 tanks, not 1,000.
They were there to repel an invasion by VirginIncursion, and could not leave since then do to restrictions on travel through the Pacific Ocean and Carribean Sea. They were also placed there by the dictator, not our new government.

Therefore, Sharina places your excuses of "peace-keeping" and "reduce alert level" into the same category as "We are simply conducting military excerises under false pretenses when it actually means we are preparing for an invasion" or "We are peace-keeping Territory-X when it actually means we are subjugating and oppressing the revolts".
Then you should change your way of thinking about this matter.

Having an oversized military stationed in proportion for such a tiny nation is not exactly the way to conduct peaceful and diplomatic relations, as well as open up trade. It would be like stationing 1 million soldiers in the Vatican City or 5 million soldiers in Delaware as "peace-keepers".
Which is why we wanted them to leave immediately after the statehood was established. (We established the statehood because we did not want our trillions of dollars spent in Costa Rica to go under rule by some foreign nation, and because it would help the people.)

I am sure that wouldn't fly with any logical minded leader or nation.
Exactly. They were to leave shortly.

I can only laugh at this. There are plenty of reasons why this could have happened, and much more believable ones.

1. Corrupt leaders.
2. Rigged elections.
3. Propaganda to brainwash the Costa Rican people.
4. Manipulation of the Costa Rican government.

You may just as well have invaded Costa Rica with actual soldiers and weapons of war, as the result is the same.
We did not do any of the above. We believe in fairness. See above for more details.

Good Day,
The Serbian Senate.

OOC: Calling a post "illogical" because you don't understand it is the equivalent of calling HAL/S programming language "illogical" because you don't know it.
The Great Sixth Reich
22-08-2005, 03:23
The Sharinan delegate arrived and spoke respectfully to Adolph Gorreing.

"I apologize for the delay. It was unavoidable with the declaration of war, and intensive double checking of my transport to ensure no unfortunate accidents should befall the transport. To add to that, it was a precarious journey through Europe, with the troubles in France and all."

"Thank you for arriving despite all these troubles.

Now, the talks will begin. Hopefully this can be solved more quickly in person than by letter, as which was currently happening."
Sharina
22-08-2005, 03:53
OOC: I got a new airplane design cad program - how'd I do with my first stab at it?

Looks pretty great!

I was wondering what program that is so I could try to look it up. It'd be great to draw my mystical Kongabac "Heavy Bomber" that devastated the Dakotas a while back, remember? ;)
Sharina
22-08-2005, 04:00
OOC: Calling a post "illogical" because you don't understand it is the equivalent of calling HAL/S programming language "illogical" because you don't know it.

OOC:

What I meant by this is that if Wirraway had remained active and Whittier hadn't been deleted, then your Serbian Senate wouldn't have had this to say about Whittier and Wirraway, which would have strengthened my position somewhat as opposed to what really happened IC'ly.

Nations who, without the slightest fear, withdraw from an oppressive alliance WHILE SURRONDED ON ALL SIDES BY THEIR TERRITORY are destroyed both economically and militarily, and have lack of brains.

I perhaps worded my earlier OOC comment badly. It should have went something like this post.

BTW, lets assume that the banter has now moved into the conference room with the TGSR representative.
Mauiwowee
22-08-2005, 04:01
Looks pretty great!

I was wondering what program that is so I could try to look it up. It'd be great to draw my mystical Kongabac "Heavy Bomber" that devastated the Dakotas a while back, remember? ;)

It's called RCCad - http://www.rccad.com/Download.htm for info. It's officially for modeling radio controlled planes, but clearly has many other uses. (scope out some of the screen shots and samples).
The Great Sixth Reich
22-08-2005, 04:03
OOC:

What I meant by this is that if Wirraway had remained active and Whittier hadn't been deleted, then your Serbian Senate wouldn't have had this to say about Whittier and Wirraway, which would have strengthened my position somewhat as opposed to what really happened IC'ly.



I perhaps worded my earlier OOC comment badly. It should have went something like this post.

BTW, lets assume that the banter has now moved into the conference room with the TGSR representative.
(I still don't know what you mean by that. :))

OOC: Fine with me. Great Romeo is fine with it too. (OOC: You don't know how annoying it is to switch acounts every second just to post. :))
USSNA
22-08-2005, 04:06
((OOC: "4. rear and forward laser anti-missile system" please xplane this further.))
Norleans
22-08-2005, 04:18
((OOC: "4. rear and forward laser anti-missile system" please xplane this further.))

OOC: The plane has a swiveling laser mounted on the front nose and the rear tail point which is used to lock on to incoming missiles and track them accurately providing feed back for use in evasive manuevers for the pilot and targeting of anti-missile missiles and/or use of the vulcan cannons to hopefully shoot the missile down (if I had Maui's targeted EMP generators, it could be used to aim them as well). - No, it is a laser that locks onto incoming missiles and destroys them. I think such a thing is feasible for the tech era we operate in, but the laser tracking is used in RL now to some extent.
USSNA
22-08-2005, 04:26
OOC: The plane has a swiveling laser mounted on the front nose and the rear tail point which is used to lock on to incoming missiles and track them accurately providing feed back for use in evasive manuevers for the pilot and targeting of anti-missile missiles and/or use of the vulcan cannons to hopefully shoot the missile down (if I had Maui's targeted EMP generators, it could be used to aim them as well). - No, it is a laser that locks onto incoming missiles and destroys them. I think such a thing is feasible for the tech era we operate in, but the laser tracking is used in RL now to some extent.

(OOC: Well the laser designator is fine, but the destruction of missiles using the laser us a no no. A 747 can barely fit a laser into it. Fitting anti-missile lasers into fighters isn't possible using MT.)
Great Romeo
22-08-2005, 04:36
Milan Srecko was annoyed, to say the least. He left the Senate Chambers, jumped into his Zavod Imeni Lihacheva (ZIL) car, and speed off to meet with the Croats. Mabye fellow Balkans could help Serbia.

http://digilander.libero.it/cuoccimix/zis101stalin.jpg
Norleans
22-08-2005, 04:39
(OOC: Well the laser designator is fine, but the destruction of missiles using the laser us a no no. A 747 can barely fit a laser into it. Fitting anti-missile lasers into fighters isn't possible using MT.)

Sorry, I made a grammatical error, instead of reading No, it is a laser that locks onto incoming missiles and destroys them. I think such a thing is feasible for the tech era we operate in, but the laser tracking is used in RL now to some extent. the last sentence should readNo, it is NOT a laser that locks onto incoming missiles and destroys them. I think such a thing is potentially feasible for the tech era Earth V operates in, but the laser tracking is used in RL now to some extent.
Great Romeo
22-08-2005, 04:43
Secret IC:

With the trees rigged, more mines were being deployed from the stockpiles leftover from the VI invasion threat. All along the southern forests, roads, trails, and mountains, mines were being deployed.
Sharina
22-08-2005, 04:45
Milan Srecko was annoyed, to say the least. He left the Senate Chambers, jumped into his Zavod Imeni Lihacheva (ZIL) car, and speed off to meet with the Croats. Mabye fellow Balkans could help Serbia.

http://digilander.libero.it/cuoccimix/zis101stalin.jpg

OOC: I dunno who this Milan Srecko is. Is he a government leader in Great Romeo, a diplomat, a general, or what?

BTW, funny picture, a Stalin look-alike. ;)
Great Romeo
22-08-2005, 04:48
OOC: I dunno who this Milan Srecko is. Is he a government leader in Great Romeo, a diplomat, a general, or what?

BTW, funny picture, a Stalin look-alike. ;)

OOC: He's a Senator. A very aggressive, pro-war senator. The one that gave the ":upyours:" to Mina Veristek on live TV.

BTW, that IS Stalin! :)
Great Romeo
22-08-2005, 05:04
Secret IC:

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6775/balmoralcostarica2db.gif (http://imageshack.us)

A new battle plan was in effect. ALL forces were moving to the defense lines around the capital ASAP.

Total Forces in Costa Rica:

Three million Great Romeoan soldiers with AK-103s and RPG-22s.
Two million Costa Rican soldiers with AK-103s and RPG-7s.
10,000 FA-22K Tanks (Most of which were previously onboard the transport ships ready to go home. Now, unloaded and ready for action.)
1,000 2S7 203-mm Self-Propelled Guns
3,000 SS-X-20 Long Range TABM and SAM Systems
3,000 SA-17 Grizzlys
1,000 UNV-1 Dolphins
Sharina
22-08-2005, 05:19
OOC: He's a Senator. A very aggressive, pro-war senator. The one that gave the ":upyours:" to Mina Veristek on live TV.

BTW, that IS Stalin! :)

Heh. I meant Milan Srecko is a Stalin look-alike, or is he Stalin secretly returned from the dead (like those tabloid stories about Hitler being cyrogenically freezed and hid away in South America)? ;)
Great Romeo
22-08-2005, 05:21
Heh. I meant Milan Srecko is a Stalin look-alike, or is he Stalin secretly returned from the dead (like those tabloid stories about Hitler being cyrogenically freezed and hid away in South America)? ;)
OOC He's a look-alike. ;)
Sharina
22-08-2005, 05:22
I noticed these thin red lines on the map (1 pixel thick). These lines are in the water and lay perpendicular on several road lines. What are they?
Mauiwowee
22-08-2005, 05:27
Message -
To: President Mina Versitek, Sharina
Senate, Great Romeo

Dear Mina and Senate members:

We watch with great concern as your nations prepare for war in Costa Rica and we hold out hope that a negotiated peace can be worked out in the conferences currently taking place in Switzerland. Anything we can do to help either of you in a peaceful settlement of the conflict will be offered if you ask for it.

That said, if war between your nations does in fact errupt, please note that we will not tolerate warfare in the Pacific. If you wish to fight it out in the coastal waters of Costa Rica, so be it, but open war in the Pacific is unacceptable to us. We further refuse to be dragged into this sensless conflict. Trade, shipping, etc. with both nations shall continue at current level and unabated.

Respectfully,
His Royal Highness,
King Roxicet Soma Narcosis,
Mauiwowee
Vineyard
22-08-2005, 05:29
Secret IC:

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6775/balmoralcostarica2db.gif (http://imageshack.us)

A new battle plan was in effect. ALL forces were moving to the defense lines around the capital ASAP.
ooc: GR: "And I would like to thank VINEYARD for his sheer brilliance and his wonderful gift of victory in the form of a battle plan..."

You are quite welcome.



IC:-General's conference in Dubrovnik-

"Strike force B is in position. The supposed confrence has served its purpose."
"Good. Alert Whittier that he has 1 day to start the coference, or we will be forced to counteract what 'the intell' claims are illegal troop movements done by USSNA."
"Is the Porcupine ready?"
"He claims he is."
"Ok. Send the message to him telling him to prepare for battle. We go to war."

- Armed escort delivered- dispatch to Whittier -
Our noble allies.
Although your intent was true, the conference is failing. You have not started it, yet our delegate is waiting for it to begin. Out intellegence claims that USSNA is preforming illegal troop movements inside france, violating the 'No move" rule that he aggreed to. We will be forced to counteract tiomorrow at 400 hours, unless the conference starts IMMEDIATELY. This conference delay may have lost the war...

-Lord Vineyard II
Great Romeo
22-08-2005, 05:31
I noticed these thin red lines on the map (1 pixel thick). These lines are in the water and lay perpendicular on several road lines. What are they?
Mines. The landmines are the "Serbkilla HV mines", designed by Vineyard. The sea mines are different.

Great Romeo's sea mine zone consists of:

Distance mines (only placed close to shore) using optical shadow sensors.
Homing floating distance (farther away from shore that the distance mines) mines.
Near the start of the mine zone: Rocket mines.
Scattered throughout the zone: Anti sweep mines.
USSNA
22-08-2005, 05:34
ooc: GR: "And I would like to thank VINEYARD for his sheer brilliance and his wonderful gift of victory in the form of a battle plan..."

You are quite welcome.



IC:-General's conference in Dubrovnik-

"Strike force B is in position. The supposed confrence has served its purpose."
"Good. Alert Whittier that he has 1 day to start the coference, or we will be forced to counteract what 'the intell' claims are illegal troop movements done by USSNA."
"Is the Porcupine ready?"
"He claims he is."
"Ok. Send the message to him telling him to prepare for battle. We go to war."

- Armed escort delivered- dispatch to Whittier -
Our noble allies.
Although your intent was true, the conference is failing. You have not started it, yet our delegate is waiting for it to begin. Out intellegence claims that USSNA is preforming illegal troop movements inside france, violating the 'No move" rule that he aggreed to. We will be forced to counteract tiomorrow at 400 hours, unless the conference starts IMMEDIATELY. This conference delay may have lost the war...

-Lord Vineyard II


(OOC: Um, we're waiting on YOU. Read back a page or 2)
Vineyard
22-08-2005, 05:39
(OOC: Um, we're waiting on YOU. Read back a page or 2)
...right

IC: GEN KOMESAR TWIDLED HIS THUMBS.

ooc: happy? I was really never told where it would be held.
Mauiwowee
22-08-2005, 06:05
::: FADE IN :::
Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is your SidTV correspondent, Asus Norton, with your live at 5 report.

In our top story tonight, pursuant to the recently announced "Narcosis Doctrine" 2 full carrier fleets, headed by our new Black Queen class, Tri-Maran carriers set sail today for various portions of the Pacific. There intent is to call upon the islands claimed by king Rox as part of the Narcosis Doctrine and integrate them into the nation. To that end, a large contingent of the diplomatic corp is traveling on the carriers and several supply ships with samples of all that Mauiwowee has to offer it's new citizens are going along with the carrier groups. It is hoped that the assimilation of the new islands can be accomplished peacefully and that Mauiwowee will shortly add new islands states and provinces to its kingdom. Meanwhile, a meeting of FOAM delegates continues in Brisbane over the Narcosis doctrine and what that means for Mauiwowee and its alliances and relationships with its neighbors.

In other worldwide news, a state of war now technically exists between Sharina and Great Romeo over Costa Rica. King Rox has issued a statement to both countries demanding they keep their hostilities out of the Pacific, but otherwise signally a state of neutrality in the matter. We'll bring you updates as this situation unfolds. At this point, however, not a single shot has been fired and a peace conference to avert hostility is underway in Switzerland.

MASA revealed additional information about the HMS Brisbane spaceship project. Apparantly a deal has been struck with Whittier to purchase 150 Delta V rockets, such as this: http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v245/vetobob/Deltarocket.jpg for the purpose of boosting supplies and building materials into orbit for the construction of the station. According to MASA, the nose of the rocket will be unmanned and instead the entire portion of the rocket boosted into orbit will contain materials needed in the construction. Once boosted into orbit, the nose of the rocket will be met by one of our Links 50 orbiters and towed to the construction site where the crews will work on the materials. MASA has stated it expects to begin launching somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 Links Orbiters/week during the initial construction phase. When asked about the biology of the planned Agri-Domes, a MASA spokesman stated that the details had not been completely worked out, but that at least one dome would be modeled on the Brazilian rainforest and another on the American Southwest and/or the Australian Outback Desert climes. MASA also revealed in conjunction with the briefing that the standard crew compliment on board the space station will be 10 with the possibility of housing as many as 35. However, more than 15 strains the ability of the station to be totally self-sufficient and with 20 or more, total self-sufficiency will not be possible at all.

In other news . . .
The Great Sixth Reich
22-08-2005, 06:23
Reich News Network-Müchen, Deutschland: Die Polizei raided an illegal beer party in Downtown Munich tonight. Polizei units yelled into loudspeakers "Sie sind umzingelt! Kommen Sie mit Ihren Händen auf heraus!" When no one exited, they blew up the doors with C4 and shot the windows out. The Polizei threw in tear gas and flashbangs, and handcuffed the occupants. But one occupant's name did not exist. DNA testing is being done to figure out who the heck he is.

http://images.ibsys.com/2005/0303/4250576.jpg
Mauiwowee
22-08-2005, 06:31
::: Encrypted Communication :::
TO: The Great Sixth Reich
FROM: Mauiwowee

Dear Sirs:

We are interested in the possible purchase of 2 of your space shuttles and would like to know if such a thing would be possible. If so, what are your terms. We need them for use in the construction of our space station. If you are willing to sell us 2 of them, we would also be interested in an officer exchange program in which flight crews for the purchased shuttles are assigned to Mauiwowee on a temporary basis to fly the shuttles while our own mission specialists work on construction of the station itself. Of course we would share all information from the flights of the shuttles. Please let us know if our proposal is "do-able."
Dr. Hemut Kreger,
Director, HMS Brisbane Construction Team
MASA
Whittier--
22-08-2005, 07:07
...right

IC: GEN KOMESAR TWIDLED HIS THUMBS.

ooc: happy? I was really never told where it would be held.

I posted it a page back. Tehran.
The Great Sixth Reich
22-08-2005, 08:07
::: Encrypted Communication :::
TO: The Great Sixth Reich
FROM: Mauiwowee

Dear Sirs:

We are interested in the possible purchase of 2 of your space shuttles and would like to know if such a thing would be possible. If so, what are your terms. We need them for use in the construction of our space station. If you are willing to sell us 2 of them, we would also be interested in an officer exchange program in which flight crews for the purchased shuttles are assigned to Mauiwowee on a temporary basis to fly the shuttles while our own mission specialists work on construction of the station itself. Of course we would share all information from the flights of the shuttles. Please let us know if our proposal is "do-able."
Dr. Hemut Kreger,
Director, HMS Brisbane Construction Team
MASA

Secret IC:

Dr. Hemut Kreger,

We would be happy to sell you two of our Quirinus Space Shuttles with one exception: We cannot sell the VASIMR Engine or nuclear reactor, because they are trade secrets. However, they are only used for inter-planetary travel, so they will not be needed for your missions. What we will sell is the normal space shuttle, with solar ray panels instead of a nuclear reactor, and Shuttle Main Engines instead of a VASIMIR engine.

-Ottokar Luft.
The Great Sixth Reich
22-08-2005, 08:09
The DNA tests were done. The test showed that the person in question's name was "Moron", and was "Brother of Lord Vineyard the Second".

Upon hearing the reuslts, the Brother, under arrest and serving a sixty year sentence for drinking at an illegal beer party, requested to see Lord Vineyard II. He has been granted permission to leave the country to meet with him, on three million dollar bail.
Warta Endor
22-08-2005, 11:20
The Third Fleet, on it's way to the area around Costa Rica to moniter the situation, halted at Kiritimati Island (ooc. Christmas Island, the one in the Pacific). They received orders from Navy HQ to halt there because Mauiwowee had issued a proclamation saying that ighting in the Pacific would not be tolerated. They would wait for further orders there. There were four options:

1. Continue to Costa Rica and risk a conflict with Great Romeo and Mauiwowee.
2. Set sail to Antonvegasta in former Chile and wait there.
3. Wait at Kiritimati Island, the least atractive option for facilities were lousy.
4. Go back to Rabaul. This will almost certainly be taken as a defeat bu Field Marshall Lao and Admiral Cranach.

It is almost certain that option two will be chosen...
Mauiwowee
22-08-2005, 12:09
The Third Fleet, on it's way to the area around Costa Rica to moniter the situation, halted at Kiritimati Island (ooc. Christmas Island, the one in the Pacific). They received orders from Navy HQ to halt there because Mauiwowee had issued a proclamation saying that fighting in the Pacific would not be tolerated. They would wait for further orders there. There were four options:

1. Continue to Costa Rica and risk a conflict with Great Romeo and Mauiwowee.
2. Set sail to Antonvegasta in former Chile and wait there.
3. Wait at Kiritimati Island, the least atractive option for facilities were lousy.
4. Go back to Rabaul. This will almost certainly be taken as a defeat bu Field Marshall Lao and Admiral Cranach.

It is almost certain that option two will be chosen...

OOC: Your guys would understand they were more than welcome under the Narcosis Doctrine to sail to the area of Costa Rica to monitor things and see what was going on, however, if you engaged in hostilities, you'd better be in Costa Rica's 20 mile territoral waters area.
Vineyard
22-08-2005, 15:27
- Encrypted telegram to Great Romeo-
We have elected to aid you in your time of need, and are fufilling your request for more anti-air batteries and guns. We will send them as they are produced. A ship with 250 Mobile Batteries are being sent along in a ship right now, and will arrive at Puerto Limbon in a few days. The ship is also carrying ammunition.
Whittier--
22-08-2005, 15:29
- Encrypted telegram to Great Romeo-
We have elected to aid you in your time of need, and are fufilling your request for more anti-air batteries and guns. We will send them as they are produced. A ship with 250 Mobile Batteries are being sent along in a ship right now, and will arrive at Puerto Limbon in a few days. The ship is also carrying ammunition.
OOC: How are you doing that if you are at war on your own homefront?
Vineyard
22-08-2005, 15:36
Leah: Please accept my apoligies for the delay, General. We are still awaiting the Vineyard representatives's arrival.
My staff has instructions to do almost whatever you need to make your stay here as pleasant and comfortable as possible.

She checked her watched. The Vineyardians were late. Was this a delay tactic? What was Lord Vineyard up to? If any more troops or arms were detected on the way to France, the conference would be canceled on the orders of Alexander.


Her thoughts turned to this morning's meeting. Her husband was concerned about Turkey.

"Tell me General, how would the USSNA respond to our government taking Turkey under our wings? We would, of course, keep the Bosporus open to free movement of all ships of all nations except in cases of an attack on us. We could allow your ships freedom of travel through the Bosporus in return from something similar as regards the Suez."

ooc: Oh. Just found it.

IC:
General Komesar's fat mass was flung around wildly inside the armored car as it sped towards the conference, clearly trying to make up for lost time. They had only just learned where it was to be held, due to some ineffiency in the chain of communication. General Komesar checked the breifcase one more time, making sure all of the proper papers and documents were present. The armored car slamed to a halt, sending general Komesar flying into the seat in front of him. The door opened.
"Teribly sorry sir, we were in a bit of a hurry."
The soldier grasped his arm and helped him out. Old age was not kind to the general, who was developing artheritis. He waddled to the security gate, where the soldier left him to several security guards. The conference had begun.
Vineyard
22-08-2005, 15:40
OOC: How are you doing that if you are at war on your own homefront?
ooc: like I said, as I produce them. I have plenty of industrial scetors in my territory, and besides. I havn't the need to replace anything but landing craft due to the lack of fighting that auctually occured. PLUS, more trade rapports have opened with mauiwowee, allowing me to have access to much more coal, in which I have always been strained, Madegascar could barely fill that need. I have plenty of metals comming in from norway as well.
Whittier--
22-08-2005, 15:49
Leah looked up at the sound of the opening door. Visibly irritated that the Vineyardian representative was late.
"While it may be customary in your nation to be late to important meetings, here it is frowned upon."
She checked her watch. Whispered into an aid's ear, sending the aid to the other side of town to inform the Secretary General that both sides had finally arrived.

"Let us get down to business. We are here to seek peaceful resolution of the France conflict. Let us begin by having each side state just what exactly is their interest in France. Starting with USSNA, since they were here on time. Once USSNA has made their statement, Vineyard will state just exactly what interests Vineyard has in France."
USSNA
22-08-2005, 16:10
Bruce stood up and started to state USSNA's demands. "First off, I want to say that I am happy that nothing ill happened to the Vineyardian delegate. You had us worried there for a while," Bruce cleared his throat,

"To state USSNA's demands we must dive back into why we invaded France in the first place. To make a semi-continueous flow of goods we needed France. By shipping good back and forth over land between England and Spain, it would greatly improve our economy. We also felt that the French people would be better off under Atlaintian Rule. It came as a suprise to us that Ato-Sara had troops in France, but we would have asked them to leave and would have freely given them transport home. We ment no harm to either the Ato-Saran's or the French people. While invading France we progress very quickly due to USSNA support and the lack of an efficent command system of the fighting minority.

This is where Vineyard tried to invade. Knowing full well the USSNA was invading france, they issued an order for all foreign to get out of France, surrender, or die. Using what little time we had, we set up defenses against the boarder of France and Italy and issued warning to Vineyard to back off. When Vineyardian transport ships made their way to france, we opened fire. AFter their retreat, you, Whitter, ask for a cease fire and we agreed.

USSNA, wants total claim to France and all of it's territorial possessions. Vineyard had not right to do what it did and should leave France. Any acts like this in the future will be dealt with accordingly."

Upon his speech, Bruce sat down. While Bruce didn't like the idea of a war between Vineyard and USSNA, it would be a necessary evil if it came to it.
Whittier--
22-08-2005, 16:18
Bruce stood up and started to state USSNA's demands. "First off, I want to say that I am happy that nothing ill happened to the Vineyardian delegate. You had us worried there for a while," Bruce cleared his throat,

"To state USSNA's demands we must dive back into why we invaded France in the first place. To make a semi-continueous flow of goods we needed France. By shipping good back and forth over land between England and Spain, it would greatly improve our economy. We also felt that the French people would be better off under Atlaintian Rule. It came as a suprise to us that Ato-Sara had troops in France, but we would have asked them to leave and would have freely given them transport home. We ment no harm to either the Ato-Saran's or the French people. While invading France we progress very quickly due to USSNA support and the lack of an efficent command system of the fighting minority.

This is where Vineyard tried to invade. Knowing full well the USSNA was invading france, they issued an order for all foreign to get out of France, surrender, or die. Using what little time we had, we set up defenses against the boarder of France and Italy and issued warning to Vineyard to back off. When Vineyardian transport ships made their way to france, we opened fire. AFter their retreat, you, Whitter, ask for a cease fire and we agreed.

USSNA, wants total claim to France and all of it's territorial possessions. Vineyard had not right to do what it did and should leave France. Any acts like this in the future will be dealt with accordingly."

Upon his speech, Bruce sat down. While Bruce didn't like the idea of a war between Vineyard and USSNA, it would be a necessary evil if it came to it.

Leah: Thank you sir for your comments. We will now hear from the Vineyard delegation. She then whispers to another aid who then scurries off to the Ato Saran Embassy.
The Great Sixth Reich
22-08-2005, 22:46
Adolph Görreing recieved a telephone call just before the formal talks started.

"Hallo?"
"Ich bin Kommandant von der Bayern Polizei. Spreche ich mit Adolph Görreing?"
"Ja. Warum kontaktieren Sie mich?"
"Wir haben einen Kroaten gestern Abend gehemmt. Wir müssen einen Shariaian Bürgerin vorladen."
"Eine Bürgerin von Sharina? Welches große Timing. Wer müssen Sie erhalten?"
"Eine Fr. Vineyard, der in New York lebt."
"Vineyard? Ist sich diese Frau auf König Vineyard bezogen?"
"Ja. Aber können Sie die Bitte schicken?"
"Sicher. Auf wiedersehn."
"Auf wiedersehn."

Adolph Görreing walked over to the Sharinian delegate, and said calmly: "The commander of the Bavarian Police just called me. They need to subpoena a citizen of Sharian to appear in court in Munich."
The Great Sixth Reich
22-08-2005, 23:42
Secret IC:

Ludo Hienkel was excited. It was time for his famous yearly review of the weapon systems of TG6R. Last time his conclusion lead to a multi-trillion dollar project, the He-43 Fighter.

His only conclusion this year was that the F-25 Hawk would not cut it in today's world. The new aircraft he had in mind was the He-23 Schwarze Witwe II. He would sell the F-25 Hawks to an ally, and replace them with He-23s.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/f-23-EC94-42454-3.jpg
The Great Sixth Reich
23-08-2005, 00:58
Bump for Sharina.
Sharina
23-08-2005, 03:02
Adolph Görreing recieved a telephone call just before the formal talks started.

"Hallo?"
"Ich bin Kommandant von der Bayern Polizei. Spreche ich mit Adolph Görreing?"
"Ja. Warum kontaktieren Sie mich?"
"Wir haben einen Kroaten gestern Abend gehemmt. Wir müssen einen Shariaian Bürgerin vorladen."
"Eine Bürgerin von Sharina? Welches große Timing. Wer müssen Sie erhalten?"
"Eine Fr. Vineyard, der in New York lebt."
"Vineyard? Ist sich diese Frau auf König Vineyard bezogen?"
"Ja. Aber können Sie die Bitte schicken?"
"Sicher. Auf wiedersehn."
"Auf wiedersehn."

Adolph Görreing walked over to the Sharinian delegate, and said calmly: "The commander of the Bavarian Police just called me. They need to subpoena a citizen of Sharian to appear in court in Munich."

The Sharinan diplomat arched an eyebrow.

"Is that a fact? Please contact the Sharinan embassy with the details, and then the matter will be taken care of."

The diplomat returned to the table, awaiting the actual conference to begin.
The Great Sixth Reich
23-08-2005, 03:21
The Sharinan diplomat arched an eyebrow.

"Is that a fact? Please contact the Sharinan embassy with the details, and then the matter will be taken care of."

The diplomat returned to the table, awaiting the actual conference to begin.

"I will have my associate contact the Sharinian embassy about that last matter. Now, the actual conference will start. The format will be Sharina speaks first, and Great Romeo replies. The first matter is a general policy statement..."

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Secret IC Message:

To: Sharinian Embassy, Berlin, Nord-Deutschland, The Great Sixth Reich
From: Kommandant, Bayerischen Polizei, with the aprroval of the Adolph Görreing, Oberster Offizier der Auslandangelegenheiten, Büro der Auslandangelegenheiten. English Translation (Unofficial): Commander, Bavarian Police, with the approval of Adolph Görreing, Chief Officer of Foreign Affairs, Office of Foreign Affairs.
Subject: Subpoena of Sharinian Citizen

Greetings,

As commander of the Bavarian Police, I prosecute high profile offenders. In this, case, the defendant is a direct-relative of a high-ranking Croatian oficial. The Court has granted me permission to issue a subpoena duces tecum for a certain person, who is residing in New York, a Ms. Ashley Vineyard. For now we wish to ask what Sharina's procedure is for these types of situations.

-Kommandant, Bayerischen Polizei, with the approval of the Adolph Görreing, Oberster Offizier der Auslandangelegenheiten, Büro der Auslandangelegenheiten.
The Great Sixth Reich
23-08-2005, 04:49
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4073/rebelbomber10ho.jpg

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1928/rebelbombersideview8rx.jpg
What's that?!
Norleans
23-08-2005, 04:56
What's that?!

OOC: I could be a smart ass and say "an airplane dumpkoff", but actually it is something posted before I had finished writing about it - hit the wrong damn key. :confused:

I've done a small edit on the post though, so check it out
USSNA
23-08-2005, 05:04
seems a bit fast. It would be better if we had more information though.
The Great Sixth Reich
23-08-2005, 05:22
OOC: I could be a smart ass and say "an airplane dumpkoff", but actually it is something posted before I had finished writing about it - hit the wrong damn key. :confused:

I've done a small edit on the post though, so check it out

OOC: It's "Ein Flugzeug, dummkopf!" Dummkopf! ;)

Anyway, I was confused when I just saw two pictures!
Norleans
23-08-2005, 06:37
NNN:
Following on the heals of the succesful Swamper Aircraft, Norleans released photos and specs on their new high speed, high altitude, strategic bomber. Dubbed the Rebel. Specs and photos are below.
Primary Function: Long-range, multi-role, heavy bomber
Builder: Norleans Air, Inc.
Power Plant: Two Rolls Royce B777-RR-105 ramjet engines with afterburners
Thrust: 110,500+ pounds with afterburner, per engine
Length: 154 feet
Wingspan: 151 feet extended forward, 90 feet swept aft
Height: 38 feet
Weight: Empty, approximately 240,000 pounds
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 498,000 pounds
Max Speed: Mach 2.3 (at 20,000 feet, unladen, with afterburners)
Optimal Operations: 65,000 feet at Mach 1.2
Range: 8,500 miles (unlimited with mid-air refuels)
Ceiling: 79,000 feet
Crew: 4
Payload: 75,000 lbs
Systems:
1. LIDAR Doppler Pulse Radar
2. Radar Jamming systems
3. Flares (heat seaking missiles) and metalic chaff (radar guided missiles)
4. Six 30 mm Vulcan cannons (2 rear mount)
5. GPS targeting and locational systems
6. Infra-red display capability
7. Two under wing hardpoints (rotational with 8 missiles each) in conjunction with dual (front and real) fuselage munitions/bomb bays
8. Computer augmented defensive targeting and firing capabilities
Stealth Capable: No
Carrier Capability: None
Construction: Honeycombed, titanium reinforced aluminum alloy
Cost: $223 Million/each

Top View
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4073/rebelbomber10ho.jpg

Side view
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1928/rebelbombersideview8rx.jpg

Undercarriage view
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8765/rebelbomberundercarriage8rr.jpg
USSNA
23-08-2005, 13:56
NNN:
Following on the heals of the succesful Swamper Aircraft, Norleans released photos and specs on their new high speed, high altitude, strategic bomber. Dubbed the Rebel. Specs and photos are below.
Primary Function: Long-range, multi-role, heavy bomber
Builder: Norleans Air, Inc.
Looking good so far.

Power Plant: Two Rolls Royce F106-RR-105 scramjet engines with afterburners
Thrust: 49,500+ pounds with afterburner, per engine
You dont know much about engines, first off scramjet only work when you first propel at very high speeds (supersonic usually) and produce way more thrust than that. You also need to up the thrust becuse it would never propel the weight of the craft. Also, scramjet dont afterburn. AT least not in my readings of the engine.

Length: 154 feet
Wingspan: 151 feet extended forward, 90 feet swept aft
Height: 38 feet

Looks good.

Weight: Empty, approximately 240,000 pounds
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 498,000 pounds

Looks good, but you need more thrust to move these weights.

Max Speed: Mach 2.3 (at 20,000 feet, unladen, with afterburners)
Optimal Operations: 65,000 feet at Mach 1.2
Range: 8,500 miles (unlimited with mid-air refuels)
Ceiling: 79,000 feet
Crew: 4
Payload: 75,000 lbs
Systems:
1. LIDAR Doppler Pulse Radar
2. Radar Jamming systems
3. Flares (heat seaking missiles) and metalic chaff (radar guided missiles)
4. Six 30 mm Vulcan cannons (2 rear mount)
5. GPS targeting and locational systems
6. Infra-red display capability
7. Two under wing hardpoints (rotational with 8 missiles each) in conjunction with dual (front and real) fuselage munitions/bomb bays
8. Computer augmented defensive targeting and firing capabilities

Looks good.

Stealth Capable: Not as deployed, but modifiable and capable if desired

You cant just moify a plane to make it stealthy. RAM is only part of the design. You have to shape the plane right in order for it to deflect instead of reflect incoming radar waves.

Carrier Capability: None
Construction: Honeycombed, titanium reinforced aluminum alloy
Cost: $223 Million/each

Images

OOC: You are correct, way to fast. See the above corrected stats. I've deleted the original post (which as a mistaken post to begin with).

Looks good here too.
Norleans
23-08-2005, 14:43
*SNIP*

ooc: Critcisms noted as well taken, research on engines done, post modified to conform. This should be all good now. :)
The Great Sixth Reich
23-08-2005, 18:31
OOC: One question: Does it normally fly with that bright Rebel Flag painted on it?
Vineyard
23-08-2005, 19:52
ooc: Sorry it took me soo long to reply. I was very busy yesterday.

IC: General Komesar heaved himself to his feet.

"Thank you for your concerns, sir."

"Now on to the French issue. The nations of USSNA and Ato-Sara have always shown a unjustified hostility towards us, and have supported various obscure nations in their wars on our nation in one way or another. So Lord Vineyard II thought it best that we create a buffer against Ato-Sara and USSNA. The only way to do that was to take a good part of france. Before invading, we issued a warning to all forign troops in france, especially around Paris, that if they do not leave now, they will be removed, if need be, by force." Gen Komesar took a drink of water and continued.

"What astounds me, is that we didn't engage in any hostilities with USSNA, yet he attacks us when we invade the south eastern corner of france. He dosen't even own the southern half."

"And i would like to bring up USSNA's cowardly attack on our ships using his fleet, without warning or declaration of war. For their cowardice, thousands of our ment lie dead on the ocean bottom. (ooc: it also violates the geneva convention). Rest assured you will pay ten-fold for what you did." Gen komesar glared at the USSNA delegate.

"Now lets cut through the bullshit. We demand the southern half of france the peaceful way. No telling where we would decide to stop if you decide to continue war."
USSNA
23-08-2005, 20:28
Bruce abrubtly stood up. "You think that the attacks on your troops were cowardly? You threatened us and we responded. We warned the nation of Vineyard to back off or else. It is not my fault that the Vineyardian government didn't take heed, it could have saved those mens live you say we cowardly attacked. I even have a copy of the message with me right here:

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To: Vineyard
From: Vincent Kain, King, USSNA
Subject: France

Vineyard, I will make myself clear and tell you to back out of attacking France. You don't want to do something you would regret later on. Back out or you will be meet with fierce Resistace. Fleets have been moved in position to protect both the northern and southern coasts of France with orders to destroy any Vineyard vessel without warning. This is your only warning.

~Signed
Vincent Kain,
King, USSNA

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Now tell us how cowardly are attacks were. And while it is true that we were not in full control of France at the time, but our troops had been there for several weeks. USSNA will not settle for anything less than full control of France."
Sharina
23-08-2005, 21:25
The Sharinan diplomat begun his dialogue.

"This conference is about the disputed territory of Costa Rica. Both Sharina and Great Romeo has staked a claim in Costa Rica. Great Romeo claims to have the Costa Ricans vote on joining the Great Romeoan nation, while Sharina claims Costa Rica to complete the unification of North America to South America.

Now, lets get down to business."
Vineyard
23-08-2005, 21:27
Bruce abrubtly stood up. "You think that the attacks on your troops were cowardly? You threatened us and we responded. We warned the nation of Vineyard to back off or else. It is not my fault that the Vineyardian government didn't take heed, it could have saved those mens live you say we cowardly attacked. I even have a copy of the message with me right here:



Now tell us how cowardly are attacks were. And while it is true that we were not in full control of France at the time, but our troops had been there for several weeks. USSNA will not settle for anything less than full control of France."
General Komeasr barked back immediately "Well then WAR is what you will get! FRANCE is NOT your property, and NOT yours to command! You had NO RIGHT to deny us entry into france, AND this little message never said we would be attacked by cowards and dogs! My government thought HALF was more than fair in order to save lives, but it looks like we are gonna take it with bloodshed then! We will not allow a hostile nation on the border of Italy!"
General Komesar pulled a small little radio transmission device.

"Now if you excuse me, my nations military commanders must be informed of your decision."
The Great Sixth Reich
23-08-2005, 21:30
The Sharinan diplomat begun his dialogue.

"This conference is about the disputed territory of Costa Rica. Both Sharina and Great Romeo has staked a claim in Costa Rica. Great Romeo claims to have the Costa Ricans vote on joining the Great Romeoan nation, while Sharina claims Costa Rica to complete the unification of North America to South America.

Now, lets get down to business."
"Now, that the scope of the conference is settled (OOC: Great Romeo agrees with that.), let's start the actual talks. I recommand that Sharina speak first, as Sharina is the one who...uh... fueled the disagreement."
USSNA
23-08-2005, 21:38
General Komeasr barked back immediately "Well then WAR is what you will get! FRANCE is NOT your property, and NOT yours to command! You had NO RIGHT to deny us entry into france, AND this little message never said we would be attacked by cowards and dogs! My government thought HALF was more than fair in order to save lives, but it looks like we are gonna take it with bloodshed then! We will not allow a hostile nation on the border of Italy!"
General Komesar pulled a small little radio transmission device.

"Now if you excuse me, my nations military commanders must be informed of your decision."

"Well then," said Bruce in a calm voice, "If that is all that Vineyard knows, then we will be forced to act. But I warn you. Think about what you are doing. Think about how many lives will be lost due to these actions. Do you really want so many lives on your shoulders? We agreed to the peace conference in an effort to save lives, but apparently you do not want to save lives. You only want death."
Sharina
23-08-2005, 22:03
"Now, that the scope of the conference is settled (OOC: Great Romeo agrees with that.), let's start the actual talks. I recommand that Sharina speak first, as Sharina is the one who...uh... fueled the disagreement."

The Sharinan nodded thoughtfully.

"I thank the German ambassador. Now I shall speak of what Sharina seeks.

Sharina has been seeking the integration of Costa Rica into the Sharinan Technocracy for over thirty years, roughly around the time that the now defunct UFSR alliance was formed. Now with the conclusion of Sharinan operations and attention in North America, it was believed that now is the optimal time to integrate Costa Rica.

Sharina has no plans whatsoever to expand elsewhere, as we are only interested in the Americas and Antarctica. Nothing else is of importance to Sharina. Once Sharina acquires Costa Rica, then Sharina's expansionism will effectively end, as there will be no more zones, lands, or territory that need to be brought under Sharinan control, possibly with the exception of the Caribbean."
Vineyard
23-08-2005, 22:21
"Well then," said Bruce in a calm voice, "If that is all that Vineyard knows, then we will be forced to act. But I warn you. Think about what you are doing. Think about how many lives will be lost due to these actions. Do you really want so many lives on your shoulders? We agreed to the peace conference in an effort to save lives, but apparently you do not want to save lives. You only want death."
"You cannot possibly pin this on us. We want some of france, but you demand that we get nothing. That is completely unacceptable. Your term 'saving lives' involves USSNA taking over ALL of france without opposition. When you made the demand that we get nothing, you asked... nay, BEGGED for bloodshed. By killing our troops in a cowardly backstab, you were committing bloodshed. Do not pretend you want peace, if your nation was smart, and auctually wanted peace, you would've called a conference without sinking our ships. I am done talking to this fool. Good day Mrs. Leah."
General Komesar shoved the chair aside, and walked out of the room, towards the awaiting armed escort outside.
USSNA
23-08-2005, 22:38
"When will the diplomat get it through his thick skull that we warned Vineyard to stay out of france. We had troops in southern France for weeks before he attacked. What does he exect us to do, roll over and play dead?" spoke Bruce, "If you would excuse me, I have to go make a phone call to my government. It really is too bad that Vineyard could of just backed off."

With that Bruce got up and made his way out to the hall. Out of his breifcase we procured a rather large phone. It was a heavily encrypted sattalite phone that connected directly to King Kain.

Secret Phone Message
"King Kain my lord, the peace talks broke down. I fear it might have been my own fault, but the Vineyard delegate would not get certain ideas thourgh his head."

"That is understandable Bruce. I thank you for service. I know you didn't want war. Doesn't fit your character."

"Many thanks Vincent. I hope to be back in Lisbon as soon as possible."
End Message

When Bruce came back into the meeting room he asked Miss Leah if the Whitter protected shipping lanes could be collapsed. USSNA would not allow them to stay open.

Back In Portugal

Vincent Kain sat at his desk. He knew it would come to this, Vineyard would not give up France as USSNA would not give it up. After he had recieved the phone call from Bruce Wallingford, he ordered aerial stealth strikes agaist the Vineyardian boarder with France. He would not lose this war......
Great Romeo
23-08-2005, 22:48
The Sharinan nodded thoughtfully.

"I thank the German ambassador. Now I shall speak of what Sharina seeks.

Sharina has been seeking the integration of Costa Rica into the Sharinan Technocracy for over thirty years, roughly around the time that the now defunct UFSR alliance was formed. Now with the conclusion of Sharinan operations and attention in North America, it was believed that now is the optimal time to integrate Costa Rica.

Sharina has no plans whatsoever to expand elsewhere, as we are only interested in the Americas and Antarctica. Nothing else is of importance to Sharina. Once Sharina acquires Costa Rica, then Sharina's expansionism will effectively end, as there will be no more zones, lands, or territory that need to be brought under Sharinan control, possibly with the exception of the Caribbean."

Anya Amasova spoke in her diplomatic voice, with a nature thick Russian accent:

The Republic of Velik Rim (English: Great Romeo) intentions are as follows...

The Republic has a strong, unbreakable connection to Costa Rica. We have invested trillions of dollars in the country's development, and we have started construction on transportation infastruction to allow for more tourism in Costa Rica. We also have the will of the people, since they feel more connected to the country that has been supporting them for decades rather than the rulers of their neighbors, whom they do not feel as strong a connection to, as they never really have related to them since Costa Rica has always been the cleanest, safest, and most stable country in Central America.

If Sharina chooses a ceasefire, we will continue our open border policy, allow access to build a railroad controlled jointly by Sharina and Costa Rica, and lower our deployment in Costa Rica to a more reasonable amount.


http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5125/anyaamasova2ek.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The Great Sixth Reich
23-08-2005, 22:54
OOC: Remember to reply to the message to the Sharinian Embassy, Sharina.
Whittier--
23-08-2005, 23:31
"You cannot possibly pin this on us. We want some of france, but you demand that we get nothing. That is completely unacceptable. Your term 'saving lives' involves USSNA taking over ALL of france without opposition. When you made the demand that we get nothing, you asked... nay, BEGGED for bloodshed. By killing our troops in a cowardly backstab, you were committing bloodshed. Do not pretend you want peace, if your nation was smart, and auctually wanted peace, you would've called a conference without sinking our ships. I am done talking to this fool. Good day Mrs. Leah."
General Komesar shoved the chair aside, and walked out of the room, towards the awaiting armed escort outside.
Leah nodded to the security. The escort blocked General Komesar's exit.
Sir Bruce, his phone conversation over, was "kindly" escorted back into the conference room by armed guards.
"Corporal, take their phones and weapons." Leah ordered a nearby MP corporal.
The MP's rudely frisked the two diplomats seizing weapons, phones, and other electronic devices.
"I don't know who you two think you are, but no one walks out on me. We are not done here. This is not about your petty little national rivalries. All you two are thinking about is your own interests. You ignore the fact that there is a 3rd interest in France, that has just as much interest in France as you two. Yet, they have no representative here. But I am in the process of remedieng that. As I don't know who it was you were talking to or what you said, I can only assume the worst. If either of you did anything to jeopardize the peace, I can assure you my husband will not recognize either of your claims to France. If your governments have ordered strikes or reinforcements, you may use the phone we provide you with. And we will monitor your conversation to make sure you have the strikes called off. Don't even think of leaving here until you two have reached a peaceful agreement of the French situation. This place is heavily surrounded by armed troops who have been notified to apprehend you both should either you attempt to leave before a peace treaty is agreed upon." she said, fire in her eyes.
She stared angrily at the two men, "You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Determing the fate of another nation. What I have heard from you two is "what USSNA wants" or "what Vineyard wants". Do either of you even give a thought to what the people of France want? Or is it that you kill french women and children just to satisfy the expanionist lust of your own egotistical leaders. Did you even bother to ask the French if they wanted to join either of your countries? Don't even try to bullshit me."

Across the city, Brezhnekov was in his own meeting. He was recieving an update on the French peace talks. He kind of felt sorry for the diplomats after he thought about it a few minutes. His wife could be a real bitch about things when she sets her mind to something. Well, at least they only had to endure her for a day. He'd had to put up with it most of his life. And he had to go home to it.
USSNA
23-08-2005, 23:34
((OOC: WTF, my guy wasn't armed at all. He just had a sattalite phone on him. That was it.))
Whittier--
23-08-2005, 23:36
((OOC: WTF, my guy wasn't armed at all. He just had a sattalite phone on him. That was it.))
OOC: Ok. I'll leave in case Vineyard's guy had one. If not, I'll edit the weapons part out.
USSNA
23-08-2005, 23:43
Leah nodded to the security. The escort blocked General Komesar's exit.
Sir Bruce, his phone conversation over, was "kindly" escorted back into the conference room by armed guards.
"Corporal, take their phones and weapons." Leah ordered a nearby MP corporal.
The MP's rudely frisked the two diplomats seizing weapons, phones, and other electronic devices.
"I don't know who you two think you are, but no one walks out on me. We are not done here. This is not about your petty little national rivalries. All you two are thinking about is your own interests. You ignore the fact that there is a 3rd interest in France, that has just as much interest in France as you two. Yet, they have no representative here. But I am in the process of remedieng that. As I don't know who it was you were talking to or what you said, I can only assume the worst. If either of you did anything to jeopardize the peace, I can assure you my husband will not recognize either of your claims to France. If your governments have ordered strikes or reinforcements, you may use the phone we provide you with. And we will monitor your conversation to make sure you have the strikes called off. Don't even think of leaving here until you two have reached a peaceful agreement of the French situation. This place is heavily surrounded by armed troops who have been notified to apprehend you both should either you attempt to leave before a peace treaty is agreed upon." she said, fire in her eyes.
She stared angrily at the two men, "You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Determing the fate of another nation. What I have heard from you two is "what USSNA wants" or "what Vineyard wants". Do either of you even give a thought to what the people of France want? Or is it that you kill french women and children just to satisfy the expanionist lust of your own egotistical leaders. Did you even bother to ask the French if they wanted to join either of your countries? Don't even try to bullshit me."

Across the city, Brezhnekov was in his own meeting. He was recieving an update on the French peace talks. He kind of felt sorry for the diplomats after he thought about it a few minutes. His wife could be a real bitch about things when she sets her mind to something. Well, at least they only had to endure her for a day. He'd had to put up with it most of his life. And he had to go home to it.

(Just Edit out the weapons thing and we will be fine.)

Bruce was angry. "What right does Whitter have to force us here?" he thought.

"If your wishes are to force us into peace, fine. But I must get into contact will King Kain. He will not be happy about this."

Bruce was allowed to go out of the room and make the call to call off the attacks. King Vincent Kain was very angry, but was happy as this would save money, manpower, and lives if USSNA could force Vineyard to back down. After the call Bruce came in and sat down. "Miss Leah, I assure you that no innocent French civilian has been harmed due to our actions. We have treated them with respect and kindness. We even brought in generators to keep energy going to towns as some powerlines were cut. Under USSNA rule France would be under a free government. (The king makes most of the decisions, but a freely elected parlament makes checks his actions and pass laws.) I fear that under Vineyard rule they would only get fear and opression."
Vineyard
23-08-2005, 23:58
OOC: Ok. I'll leave in case Vineyard's guy had one. If not, I'll edit the weapons part out.
ooc: Yes, our diplomat was armed. Small silver-plated pistol. Every general carries one. and he had a radio transmitter, with set encoded messages that would be sent once the conclusion of the conference had been reached. He already sent the failure messagae.

IC: One of General Komesar's aids jumped up and tried to pull the frisker off of his general, only to be shoved down and kicked.
"Son of a bitch!"
The aid made a grab for his pin and pressed it yelling something in quick croatian. He got kicked again, and was knocked out.

General Komesar's face grew red, clearly angry.

"So you would hold us hostage to secure france for your own!?"

-Outside-
The commander of the armed motorcade parked outside had his feet kicked up on a small, opened armor-plated opening, ment for usage as a gun port. He was watching 'The Godfather' on the standard-issued TV for morale purposes, when his radio crackled in a hurried sentence.

::They are fucking capturing us! Iranian bastards!::

Then it abruptly ended

::What the hell??::
::Holy shit::
::START MOTORS::

the lingering troops outside the vehicules threw themselves back in their Armored personnel carriers and armored cars, locking the doors down. A small satilite dish was thrown onto the roof.

*copy of message was sent to Gen. Turkmanstazi*
::Requesting course of action!::

-no immediate responce-

::Buckle up guys.::

Ak-47's and other assult rifels pertuded from the armored gun ports at the side of the vessels. The machine gun turrets on top swung around, looking for any sign of an attack.

::FIRE ONLY IF FIRED OPON!::
::Roger!::

::Circle up!::

The vehicules made a circle, there fore allowing the gunners in the inner circle to focus on the other side of the vehicules, allowing more firepower. The inner-circle gun ports were locked down.

The commander got a loud speaker ready. he suspected the Whittierians saw their movements and were preparing a responce.
Whittier--
24-08-2005, 00:24
Brezhnekov's meeting was interrupted by a panicked police liason. The Vineyardians were acting looney and the first lady was heard yelling obscenities at the peace conference.
He picked his phone up and called his wife. They talked for a while. "Uh huh. They did? I see. Yes I understand. No. No. No. I do understand. But you have to be careful with these things. You might inadvertantly start a war one of these days. Yes, you have my support on this. (Rolls eyes)."

He called the police commission and ordered them to investigate the activities of the Vineyardians in front of the peace conference building.
Next, he picked up his phone and started dialing Lord Vineyard's number to try to calm the situation.
Vineyard
24-08-2005, 00:34
ooc: Remember, the guy is dead, and a ruling council is trying to cover it up.


IC:
Lord Vineyard's phone was answered by a secratary.

"We're sorry, Lord Vineyard is currently on a vacation. But leave a message, and he will be sure to send a telegram!"
*automated voice*
::Press one to leave a message.::
::Press two if you urgently need to contact a minister.::
::Press 3 if you have to urgently contact a general::
Whittier--
24-08-2005, 01:48
ooc: Remember, the guy is dead, and a ruling council is trying to cover it up.


IC:
Lord Vineyard's phone was answered by a secratary.

"We're sorry, Lord Vineyard is currently on a vacation. But leave a message, and he will be sure to send a telegram!"
*automated voice*
::Press one to leave a message.::
::Press two if you urgently need to contact a minister.::
::Press 3 if you have to urgently contact a general::
He pressed 2.
Vineyard
24-08-2005, 02:14
He pressed 2.
ooc: Lol, just having a bit of fun.

IC:
"Greetings, Minister of Forign Policy/Diplomacy speaking, how may I help you!"
USSNA
24-08-2005, 02:19
((OOC: Can we get on with the conference please?))
Whittier--
24-08-2005, 03:09
Leah introduced Charlene and Marybeth.
"They will escort you to your quarters once you have reached a peaceful resolution. I am going to leave you two alone, now, so you talk for the next 8 hours. As you can see, this room has no windows. And the windows on your quarters, are barred, rigged with an alarm and under surveillance by snipers. If you need food or anything, just ring this buzzer and Alfred will get you what need."
Whittier--
24-08-2005, 03:10
ooc: Lol, just having a bit of fun.

IC:
"Greetings, Minister of Forign Policy/Diplomacy speaking, how may I help you!"
"Whose in charge over while Lord Vineyard is gone?" asked the Secretary General. Have him call me asap."
Vineyard
24-08-2005, 03:18
"Whose in charge over while Lord Vineyard is gone?" asked the Secretary General. Have him call me asap."
IC: "Y-yes sir. The current man incharge is the commander of all Military forces, a man by the name of Gen. Komesar. He is currently away at a meeting, I can have him call you later. Who is calling please?"

ooc: lol
USSNA
24-08-2005, 03:34
Leah introduced Charlene and Marybeth.
"They will escort you to your quarters once you have reached a peaceful resolution. I am going to leave you two alone, now, so you talk for the next 8 hours. As you can see, this room has no windows. And the windows on your quarters, are barred, rigged with an alarm and under surveillance by snipers. If you need food or anything, just ring this buzzer and Alfred will get you what need."

(( :rolleyes: You know full well that nothing will be settled that way. I know USSNA won't give in and I also know that Vinyard wont give in.))
Sharina
24-08-2005, 04:18
Anya Amasova spoke in her diplomatic voice, with a nature thick Russian accent:

The Republic of Velik Rim (English: Great Romeo) intentions are as follows...

The Republic has a strong, unbreakable connection to Costa Rica. We have invested trillions of dollars in the country's development, and we have started construction on transportation infastruction to allow for more tourism in Costa Rica. We also have the will of the people, since they feel more connected to the country that has been supporting them for decades rather than the rulers of their neighbors, whom they do not feel as strong a connection to, as they never really have related to them since Costa Rica has always been the cleanest, safest, and most stable country in Central America.

If Sharina chooses a ceasefire, we will continue our open border policy, allow access to build a railroad controlled jointly by Sharina and Costa Rica, and lower our deployment in Costa Rica to a more reasonable amount.


http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5125/anyaamasova2ek.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hevan Pal'so rubbed his clean shaven chin before responding to the Russian female's declarations.

"Thank you for stating your intentions.

First, I must disagree with your statement that Costa Rica is the safest, cleanest, and most stable country in Central America. Mexico is considered part of Central America, and it is one of Sharina's two homelands, the other being California. Mexico became stable amid the throes of anarchy and break-down of the United States and government world-wide, and has sustained that stability for over fifty years. Mexico is also one of the cleanest, considering the fact that severe emission laws were put in place in the 1970's to reduce the air pollution from automobiles and factories. Not only this, but with the advent of hydrogen fuel cell technology in the 1990's and the fact that 99% of all Sharinan automobile type of vehicles are now hydrogen fuel powered, which means there is 99% less pollution in Mexico, California, and elsewhere. Sharina also employs nuclear power for all of its energy needs, which means no pollution from coal power plants and the like. Finally, the fact of safety. Crime has been significantly reduced through reforms in law-enforcement structure, flexible laws, and scientific analysis and methodology to arrive at the most optimal crime prevention methods.

Now, during the 1960's, the few years just prior to the Collapse, it has been proven that Costa Rica had experienced a considerable amount of drug smuggling, had gas guzzler engines with little to no enviromental regulation, and had issues with its economy. By the 1970's, it had unstable neighbors but then those unstable neighbors were annexed by Sharina and made stable, more so than Costa Rica at that point in time.

This is taken from a clearly Costa Rican source at http://costaricahomepages.com/cc79b89339d5493948b3c796917b9329/info/summary.

During the 1960's, Costa Rica suffered from natural disasters. The Irazú and Arenal volcanoes erupted seriously damaging agriculture and killing many people. By the 1970's, the country was in a recession and found itself surrounded by unstable neighbors.

(OOC: The website would have different information for 1975 onwards accounting for the Collapse, the rise of Sharina, and everything in Earth V. I've RP'ed the Collapse- the time when all nations broke up and became "NS Nations"- at roughly 1963 - 1968, roughly around JFK's presidency and the Cuban Missile Crisis. This is also when the Cold War was at its height and most tension. The reason why I said 1975 was when Sharina invaded Guatemala, Belize, El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicarguga. The UFSR formed around this time as well.)

Now onto the second point.

The Sharinan people and I do not view the Costa Rican elections as true democracy at work. You may be asking, 'Huh?'. This is my answer, the Costa Rican people have been influenced by Great Romeo, especially the government. If Great Romeo had not influenced the Costa Rican people and brainwashed them, then the Costa Ricans would surely be advocating joining their brothers and sisters in Sharina.

Have you looked at the map lately? Central [or Latin] America is fully under Sharinan control, except for Costa Rica. All of the people in Central America except for Costa Rica have been enjoying great living standards, excellent education, the best healthcare system, and the most security, a lot more than Great Romeo could have had offered them during the reign of the UFSR. It has been no secret that the UFSR had stangated economically, politically, and technologically, thus the reason why it dissolved while Sharina outlived the UFSR. Thus, it can only stand to logic and reason that the Costa Ricans would have joined Sharina if not for Great Romeoan influence along with the threat of the UFSR behind Great Romeo.

Even though Sharina was superior to the UFSR in politics, economy, and technology, it could not stand aganist the UFSR as the UFSR had sheer numbers on its side. Sharina would have found itself in Germany's shoes aganist the Soviet Russians [which would be the UFSR's role] during World War 2. Thus that was the sole reason why Sharina did not take action aganist Costa Rica in the 1980's through the 2000's.

Now that Sharina is finished with its final expansion in North America, it has taken note of the 'Costa Rican Situation' as many have been calling it ever since Great Romeoan influence was made known decades ago. Now there is no UFSR or massive numbers to challenge Sharinan interests in the Americas.

To be completely honest with you, should a war erupt between Sharina and Great Romeo, it will remain confined to Costa Rica and the Caribbean. Sharina will not rain destruction upon Great Romeoan holdings in Europe. Sharina will not bomb or invade Great Romeoan lands in Europe. We could easily reach the Mediterrean, brush aside any Vineyardian interference, and launch direct attacks upon your European lands, but we will not do so.

Why?

We have no interest in Europe whatsoever. We do not want land or take over other nations in Europe. If Great Romeo were to take over the entirety of Russia, to be frank, Sharina wouldn't give a damn. We strongly believe in 'America for Americans only' philosophy, as we have long memories of European interference in the Americas. Hernado Cortez's invasions. The fall of the majestic Aztecs and Incas. The massacre of innocent Native Americans by United States soldiersm of which were descended from Europeans, and European soldiers from nations like Britain and Spain. The list goes on.

To put it simply, all the American peoples have demanded independence from Europe before the Collapse, and for them to revert to being an European colony in one way or another is ridiclious."
Vineyard
24-08-2005, 04:25
General Komesar immediately objected.

"You are keeping us prisioner! If I don't report back in tonight, they will inquire about my well being! AND, I refuse to tell my people to call off the attack."

-In the streets of Tehran-
The armored cars clearly made quite a stir. They had blocked off the traffic by circling around in that block, AND reporters were having a feild day about bad relations and a possible war.

"FUCK off! Know what this is??" a soldier yelled at a reporter who approached the circle a little too closely. The soldier was holding his pistol out the window.


General Turkmanstazi, back in Riyadh, was showing signs of auctually being mad. He was always cheerful, and was never seen mad before.

He pulled the area Imperial Guard commander over and told him to prepare his men and a dozen ospreys. then we went for the phone.

He called the Tehran Conference room.
"Let me speak to Gen. Komesar immediately! This is general Turkmanstazi of the Croatian Middle East army."
Sharina
24-08-2005, 04:26
To: Sharinian Embassy, Berlin, Nord-Deutschland, The Great Sixth Reich
From: Kommandant, Bayerischen Polizei, with the aprroval of the Adolph Görreing, Oberster Offizier der Auslandangelegenheiten, Büro der Auslandangelegenheiten. English Translation (Unofficial): Commander, Bavarian Police, with the approval of Adolph Görreing, Chief Officer of Foreign Affairs, Office of Foreign Affairs.
Subject: Subpoena of Sharinian Citizen

Greetings,

As commander of the Bavarian Police, I prosecute high profile offenders. In this, case, the defendant is a direct-relative of a high-ranking Croatian oficial. The Court has granted me permission to issue a subpoena duces tecum for a certain person, who is residing in New York, a Ms. Ashley Vineyard. For now we wish to ask what Sharina's procedure is for these types of situations.

-Kommandant, Bayerischen Polizei, with the aprroval of the Adolph Görreing, Oberster Offizier der Auslandangelegenheiten, Büro der Auslandangelegenheiten.

Comminque from Sharinan Embassy in Germany:

Sharina would like to have some additional information regarding this situation. We need to know the severity of the crime involving Ms. Ashley Vineyard, as it has a direct bearing on Sharina's policy regarding foreign trials involving a Sharinan citizen. In addition, Sharina needs to know what type of crime has been committed by this Ms. Ashley Vineyard or if not her then the person being tried at the trial, and if it is the German or Bavarian intention to imprison Ms. Ashley Vineyard.

Thank you.
~Siana Maa'ci, Head Diplomat of Sharina-German Affairs
Mauiwowee
24-08-2005, 04:42
OOC: One question: Does it normally fly with that bright Rebel Flag painted on it?

Speaking for Norleans, we are informed it only displays the flag when flying over the New England area and and other Damn Yankee strongholds and during suicide pilot appreciation day. :D
The Great Sixth Reich
24-08-2005, 05:25
Comminque from Sharinan Embassy in Germany:

Sharina would like to have some additional information regarding this situation. We need to know the severity of the crime involving Ms. Ashley Vineyard, as it has a direct bearing on Sharina's policy regarding foreign trials involving a Sharinan citizen. In addition, Sharina needs to know what type of crime has been committed by this Ms. Ashley Vineyard or if not her then the person being tried at the trial, and if it is the German or Bavarian intention to imprison Ms. Ashley Vineyard.

Thank you.
~Siana Maa'ci, Head Diplomat of Sharina-German Affairs

Reply from Adolph Görreing,

The information is as follows:

A brother of Lord Vineyard II, Mr. Moron Vineyard, was arrested in Munich in a Bavarian State SWAT team raid of an illegal controlled substance party a couple of nights ago for a controlled substance violation. Ms. Vineyard is the only known Vineyardian Royal Family member we currently know the whereabouts of, and we want her to testify to provide more information on the family's policy on controlled substance use. As you can probably guess by the description above, Ms. Vineyard is not charged with any crime whatsoever, just Mr. Moron Vineyard.

Thank you for your time,
Adolph Görreing.
Mauiwowee
24-08-2005, 05:44
::: FADE IN :::

Good day Vegamite fans. This is Asus Norton, your SidTV live at 5 reporter. In our top story tonight, the Palace today announced that an agreement in principal has been reached with the nation of Vineyard to put an end to all hostilities between Mauiwowee and Vineyard. All trade embargos by both nations have been lifted and the economy is expected to receive a significant boost as Vineyard is a prime customer for Mauiwoweean metals production, particularly iron and steel, as well as coal. Once again, Mauiwoweean ships will sail the Mediterranean and Vineyardian ships will be seen cruising the Pacific. "This is a great day for peace in our nation" proclaimed king Rox in a prepared statement today - "the constant threat of warfare with Vineyard has come to an end."

In other news, sources at W.M.D., Inc. leaked to SidTV today computer models of Mauiwowee's newest tri-maran ship, a battle ship. dubbed the "Triad" class, the first of its kind is under construction in French Polynesia. Detailed specfications are not known at this time, but the ship appears to be poised to become a major part of the re-invention of the navy strategy that Mauiwowee's military is putting into action at the present time. As soon as full details are known, we'll let you know. Meanwhile, here is a picture of the new ship.
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/7583/trimaranbattleship3pt.jpg

In other news. . . .
Great Romeo
24-08-2005, 05:47
Hevan Pal'so rubbed his clean shaven chin before responding to the Russian female's declarations.

"Thank you for stating your intentions.

First, I must disagree with your statement that Costa Rica is the safest, cleanest, and most stable country in Central America. Mexico is considered part of Central America, and it is one of Sharina's two homelands, the other being California. Mexico became stable amid the throes of anarchy and break-down of the United States and government world-wide, and has sustained that stability for over fifty years. Mexico is also one of the cleanest, considering the fact that severe emission laws were put in place in the 1970's to reduce the air pollution from automobiles and factories. Not only this, but with the advent of hydrogen fuel cell technology in the 1990's and the fact that 99% of all Sharinan automobile type of vehicles are now hydrogen fuel powered, which means there is 99% less pollution in Mexico, California, and elsewhere. Sharina also employs nuclear power for all of its energy needs, which means no pollution from coal power plants and the like. Finally, the fact of safety. Crime has been significantly reduced through reforms in law-enforcement structure, flexible laws, and scientific analysis and methodology to arrive at the most optimal crime prevention methods.

Now, during the 1960's, the few years just prior to the Collapse, it has been proven that Costa Rica had experienced a considerable amount of drug smuggling, had gas guzzler engines with little to no enviromental regulation, and had issues with its economy. By the 1970's, it had unstable neighbors but then those unstable neighbors were annexed by Sharina and made stable, more so than Costa Rica at that point in time.

This is taken from a clearly Costa Rican source at http://costaricahomepages.com/cc79b89339d5493948b3c796917b9329/info/summary.



(OOC: The website would have different information for 1975 onwards accounting for the Collapse, the rise of Sharina, and everything in Earth V. I've RP'ed the Collapse- the time when all nations broke up and became "NS Nations"- at roughly 1963 - 1968, roughly around JFK's presidency and the Cuban Missile Crisis. This is also when the Cold War was at its height and most tension. The reason why I said 1975 was when Sharina invaded Guatemala, Belize, El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicarguga. The UFSR formed around this time as well.)

Now onto the second point.

The Sharinan people and I do not view the Costa Rican elections as true democracy at work. You may be asking, 'Huh?'. This is my answer, the Costa Rican people have been influenced by Great Romeo, especially the government. If Great Romeo had not influenced the Costa Rican people and brainwashed them, then the Costa Ricans would surely be advocating joining their brothers and sisters in Sharina.

Have you looked at the map lately? Central [or Latin] America is fully under Sharinan control, except for Costa Rica. All of the people in Central America except for Costa Rica have been enjoying great living standards, excellent education, the best healthcare system, and the most security, a lot more than Great Romeo could have had offered them during the reign of the UFSR. It has been no secret that the UFSR had stangated economically, politically, and technologically, thus the reason why it dissolved while Sharina outlived the UFSR. Thus, it can only stand to logic and reason that the Costa Ricans would have joined Sharina if not for Great Romeoan influence along with the threat of the UFSR behind Great Romeo.

Even though Sharina was superior to the UFSR in politics, economy, and technology, it could not stand aganist the UFSR as the UFSR had sheer numbers on its side. Sharina would have found itself in Germany's shoes aganist the Soviet Russians [which would be the UFSR's role] during World War 2. Thus that was the sole reason why Sharina did not take action aganist Costa Rica in the 1980's through the 2000's.

Now that Sharina is finished with its final expansion in North America, it has taken note of the 'Costa Rican Situation' as many have been calling it ever since Great Romeoan influence was made known decades ago. Now there is no UFSR or massive numbers to challenge Sharinan interests in the Americas.

To be completely honest with you, should a war erupt between Sharina and Great Romeo, it will remain confined to Costa Rica and the Caribbean. Sharina will not rain destruction upon Great Romeoan holdings in Europe. Sharina will not bomb or invade Great Romeoan lands in Europe. We could easily reach the Mediterrean, brush aside any Vineyardian interference, and launch direct attacks upon your European lands, but we will not do so.

Why?

We have no interest in Europe whatsoever. We do not want land or take over other nations in Europe. If Great Romeo were to take over the entirety of Russia, to be frank, Sharina wouldn't give a damn. We strongly believe in 'America for Americans only' philosophy, as we have long memories of European interference in the Americas. Hernado Cortez's invasions. The fall of the majestic Aztecs and Incas. The massacre of innocent Native Americans by United States soldiersm of which were descended from Europeans, and European soldiers from nations like Britain and Spain. The list goes on.

To put it simply, all the American peoples have demanded independence from Europe before the Collapse, and for them to revert to being an European colony in one way or another is ridiclious."

Anya Amasova replied, diplomaticly again:

"Mr. Pal'so,

Mexico is not part of Central America. It is part of North America.

As for Costa Rican people, we have been unaware of what exactly Sharina had done in Central America. From our calcuations, Costa Rica would of been the cleanest, most stabile, and safest country in Central America, without any Sharinian interventation. During our years of influence, healthcare and education rose to decent levels in Costa Rica without our influence. Currently, only 4% of the Costa Rican population lacks access of adequate health care, education, and economic opportunities necessary to rise above poverty level, and we are working on improving that number.

OOC: Facts taken from http://coe.asu.edu/costa_rica/costarica.html.

IC continuation:

We are not concerned about a war in Europe. Only roughly 75% of our territory is in Europe. The rest is Costa Rica. Costa Rica accounts for roughly 25% of our territory. That is a large number to us.

As we said again, we have a commitment to Costa Rica, and always had. With Costan Ricans controlling 1/3 of all our states, that means that they now control 33% of our Senate. Having that large of a represenation in our country means that Costa Rica is hardly a European colony. It is also important to note the 95% of the population is Roman Catholic, so Costa Rica is not exactly a Native American country anymore.

Thank You."
Sharina
24-08-2005, 05:57
Reply from Adolph Görreing,

The information is as follows:

A brother of Lord Vineyard II, Mr. Moron Vineyard, was arrested in Munich in a Bavarian State SWAT team raid of an illegal controlled substance party a couple of nights ago for a controlled substance violation. Ms. Vineyard is the only known Vineyardian Royal Family member we currently know the whereabouts of, and we want her to testify to provide more information on the family's policy on controlled substance use. As you can probably guess by the description above, Ms. Vineyard is not charged with any crime whatsoever, just Mr. Moron Vineyard.

Thank you for your time,
Adolph Görreing.

Comminque to Adolph Gorreing
From: The Sharinan Embassy in Germany

Greetings, the timely response is quite appreciated.

Thank you for sharing the information pertaining to the case involving the Vineyard family. According to what you have told us, Ms. Ashley Vineyard is basically an witness in a criminal trial in Germany. A brief overview of Sharina's policy of Sharinan witnesses serving duty in foreign courts shall follow.

1. Sharinans are encouraged to participate in foreign courts, but only those of allies and neutral nations, to ensure that Justice prevails throughout the world.

2. Sharinan citizens are to be escorted by Sharinan bodyguards to ensure that no harm or intimidation shall befall Sharinan citizens. Some instances of harm or intimidation include gangsters, racketeering, hostile nations (Suppose the Vineyard nation wants to intimidate Ms. Ashley Vineyard to present a favorable view for Mr. Moron Vineyard), and so forth.

3. At the conclusion of the trial, the Sharinan citizen involved shall return back to Sharina with no penalties from either Sharina (work hours lost or absent from educational job will still be paid in full) or foreign nations.

4. Any harmful or dangerous actions taken aganist the Sharinan citizen by any foreign national will result in consquences, which are not limited to; demand for the foreign national to be tried for the crime committed aganist the Sharinan citizen, the immediate withdrawal of the Sharinan citizen regardless whether the trial has been completed or not, or diplomatic / military action taken aganist the offending nation (For example, the nation of Vineyard if it undertakes actions aganist Ms. Ashley Vineyard).

5. Should the Sharinan citizen in question (Ms. Ashley Vineyard in this instance) not wish to attend the foreign trial, then he / she is not required to attend. However, the citizen must provide a valid and legimitate reason for this. Some instances of valid excuses include maternity leave, poor health, hospitalization, severe family affairs, being involved in a native Sharinan trial at the time required by the foreign trial (Sharinan court trials take precedence over foreign ones), or fear of the nation in question (Suppose Ms. Ashley Vineyard is asked to participate in the nation of Vineyard and she does not desire to return to Vineyard, Sharina shall not force her to do so).

There are the five most important points. Ms. Ashley Vineyard shall be contacted and she will be informed of this trial and her required participation. Thus, if she does not have any issues with participation, then the proper actions shall be taken to ensure her safe arrival in Germany, as Sharina has concerns with the situation brewing in France.

Thank you once again. If you have any other important information, such as lodgings, special requirements, and the like, please contact us and we shall inform Ms. Ashley Vineyard to ensure a smooth trip.

Live well,
~Siana Maa'ci, Head Diplomat of Sharina-German Affairs
Vineyard
24-08-2005, 06:08
-Off the coast of Costa Rica-
Unencrypted transmission.
::Tanker 238111 of the nation Croatia wishes to dock. We have a gift of anti-aircraft batteries that you requested, and we wish to weigh anchor in one of your harbors to unload the cargo::
Great Romeo
24-08-2005, 06:15
-Off the coast of Costa Rica-
Unencrypted transmission.
::Tanker 238111 of the nation Croatia wishes to dock. We have a gift of anti-aircraft batteries that you requested, and we wish to weigh anchor in one of your harbors to unload the cargo::
Unencrypted transmission:
Hola, Señor. Usted cortará en Puerto Limón. Gracias para sus obsequios.
Sharina
24-08-2005, 06:40
Anya Amasova replied, diplomaticly again:

"Mr. Pal'so,

Mexico is not part of Central America. It is part of North America.

As for Costa Rican people, we have been unaware of what exactly Sharina had done in Central America. From our calcuations, Costa Rica would of been the cleanest, most stabile, and safest country in Central America, without any Sharinian interventation. During our years of influence, healthcare and education rose to decent levels in Costa Rica without our influence. Currently, only 4% of the Costa Rican population lacks access of adequate health care, education, and economic opportunities necessary to rise above poverty level, and we are working on improving that number.

OOC: Facts taken from http://coe.asu.edu/costa_rica/costarica.html.

IC continuation:

We are not concerned about a war in Europe. Only roughly 75% of our territory is in Europe. The rest is Costa Rica. Costa Rica accounts for roughly 25% of our territory. That is a large number to us.

As we said again, we have a commitment to Costa Rica, and always had. With Costan Ricans controlling 1/3 of all our states, that means that they now control 33% of our Senate. Having that large of a represenation in our country means that Costa Rica is hardly a European colony. It is also important to note the 95% of the population is Roman Catholic, so Costa Rica is not exactly a Native American country anymore.

Thank You."

Hevan Pal'so arched an eyebrow as the Russian woman ticked off each major point. Once she finished her dialog, he responded.

"Ah, we have always considered Lower Mexico as part of Central or Latin America. In addition, despite your belief, we have held Belize, Guatmela, El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaruga, of which are all Central American countries, for over forty years. This has been a period of time considerably longer than your alleged investment and subversion of the Costa Rican people. In just five years, those states were stabilized and began to explode in quality of life compared to Costa Rica. While Costa Rica was only beginning to emerge from its economic recession mainly due to Sharinan stabilization if its neighboring countries for the period of time before your intervention, the other Central American countries were halfway to full First-World living standards approaching those of Germany in the 1930's and the USA in the 1950's. By 1985, these nations were enjoying 100% literacy rate, a GDP of $36,000 per capita, hospitals capable of cancer treatment with exceptional rates of success, near-perfect hygiene with the introduction of efficient sewage systems and flouride in drinking water, and a plethora of other improvements. Effectively, these provinces had become just as advanced as Sharina's homeland provinces of California and Mexico, fully up-to-date on Sharinan economics and technologies.

Now, the Costa Ricans, a people emerging from recession, volcanic eruptions, a devastated agricultural sector, and unstable trading would have looked north across their border to a people prospering beyond their wildest dreams. They also must have looked south towards Fodmodmadtol held Panama, with similiar prosperity. Surely, they would have wanted to join such prosperity, compared to the slump that they had just experienced a decade earlier, if not for Great Romeoan influence.

If you Europeans did not influence the Costa Ricans and allowed them to live naturally, fully independent of any foreign investment, and generally left them alone, then they would have welcomed union with their sisters and brothers in Central America with open arms.

To put it in perpsective, suppose several USA states decided to up and re-join Great Britain in 1850, or even during the Civil War of 1860-65, the USA would not take this lying down. The USA would have fought to keep its people together from re-joining its European mother, England, whose oppression was the cause of the formation of the USA.

You say that Costa Rica makes up for 25% of your territory. That is still a 1/4 minority of your land. However, this is far from true when it comes to concentration of populace, power, industry, and infrastructure. There are only several million people living in Costa Rica, as opposed to your billions in Europe, thus, your claim is somewhat skewed. A 33% representation in your Senate for a 'few-million' population territory, as opposed to a territory of a populace of billions, is also skewed. I'd place Costa Rica at roughly maybe 5% - 10% of your entire economy, industry, and around 1%, or possibly less than that, of your population base, while skeptically recongizing your claim of 25% of your entire national territory.

The fact of the matter is that Sharina wants Costa Rica for the land and the reasons I've already stated earlier in the conference. We consider the Costa Rican elections to join Great Romeo as a rigged election due to Great Romeo's influence on the Costa Rican government and media. If elections were held and all Great Romeoan influence were eliminated, then it would have provided for a most optimal result, as they would have chosen to join either Sharina or Great Romeo or whoever else, without 'vote-bullying' or pro-nation-X propganda. Alas, this cannot happen, as we cannot undo Great Romeo's influence on Costa Rica easily. We cannot return Costa Rica to neutrality for at least a generation or two, once all foreign influences have worn off, assuming we cease all foreign influence in Costa Rica right this minute.

Thus we both are faced with a problem."
Sharina
24-08-2005, 06:43
-Off the coast of Costa Rica-
Unencrypted transmission.
::Tanker 238111 of the nation Croatia wishes to dock. We have a gift of anti-aircraft batteries that you requested, and we wish to weigh anchor in one of your harbors to unload the cargo::

Umm...

How the hell did this tanker get past my blockade of the Caribbean, not to mention USSNA's satellite recon of the Atlantic, and his support White Tiger Fleet?

I clearly stated that all non-allied shipping to Costa Rica were to be stopped and forced to turn back or be fired upon.


EDIT: Also, any Croatian shipping would be flagged in the Atlantic Ocean and watched very closely (if they travelled elsewhere, not towards my blockade) especially if they try to sail to dock anywhere in the Americas, as Sharina is suspicious of Croatian ships due to the Sharina-Vineyard Treaty, as well as non-allied Europeans (USSNA and TGSR are the only Europeans Sharina trusts) in general.
Sharina
24-08-2005, 06:56
A non-descript man laid at a warm, luxurious, and white-sanded beach with his wife and two children. The two children were splashing around and fooling with each other in the water, as the wife laughed out of happiness. The man smiled and looked towards his wife.

"I have to go to the bathroom, and check on Anna. She was somewhat sick this morning, and I should check to see if she's feeling any better."

The wife nodded.

"Go ahead, I'll watch the boys. We'll still be here when you return, and hopefully Anna is feeling better. Perhaps she is feeling well enough to join us?"

The man smiled.

"We'll see. I love you."

The man departed, leaving his wife with a geniune feeling of happiness that only a successful marriage could bring. Several minutes later, the man approached his hotel, with a dark thought crossing over his mind.

I hate doing this, but I have to smuggle this last batch of drugs so that my family and I will finally have the money we need for the kids college funds. Three kids is a huge drain on anyone's finances. I'll finally be free the instant I get rid of these drugs, and acquiring over $300,000 which should go a long way towards college for my kids.

The man approached a room several doors away from his rented room. He opened the door, and another nondescript man was waiting inside the room, along with a large briefcase.

The father spoke.

"Lets do this, and go our seperate ways. For the kids."
Great Romeo
24-08-2005, 07:01
Hevan Pal'so arched an eyebrow as the Russian woman ticked off each major point. Once she finished her dialog, he responded.

"Ah, we have always considered Lower Mexico as part of Central or Latin America. In addition, despite your belief, we have held Belize, Guatmela, El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaruga, of which are all Central American countries, for over forty years. This has been a period of time considerably longer than your alleged investment and subversion of the Costa Rican people. In just five years, those states were stabilized and began to explode in quality of life compared to Costa Rica. While Costa Rica was only beginning to emerge from its economic recession mainly due to Sharinan stabilization if its neighboring countries for the period of time before your intervention, the other Central American countries were halfway to full First-World living standards approaching those of Germany in the 1930's and the USA in the 1950's. By 1985, these nations were enjoying 100% literacy rate, a GDP of $36,000 per capita, hospitals capable of cancer treatment with exceptional rates of success, near-perfect hygiene with the introduction of efficient sewage systems and flouride in drinking water, and a plethora of other improvements. Effectively, these provinces had become just as advanced as Sharina's homeland provinces of California and Mexico, fully up-to-date on Sharinan economics and technologies.

Now, the Costa Ricans, a people emerging from recession, volcanic eruptions, a devastated agricultural sector, and unstable trading would have looked north across their border to a people prospering beyond their wildest dreams. They also must have looked south towards Fodmodmadtol held Panama, with similiar prosperity. Surely, they would have wanted to join such prosperity, compared to the slump that they had just experienced a decade earlier, if not for Great Romeoan influence.

If you Europeans did not influence the Costa Ricans and allowed them to live naturally, fully independent of any foreign investment, and generally left them alone, then they would have welcomed union with their sisters and brothers in Central America with open arms.

To put it in perpsective, suppose several USA states decided to up and re-join Great Britain in 1850, or even during the Civil War of 1860-65, the USA would not take this lying down. The USA would have fought to keep its people together from re-joining its European mother, England, whose oppression was the cause of the formation of the USA.

You say that Costa Rica makes up for 25% of your territory. That is still a 1/4 minority of your land. However, this is far from true when it comes to concentration of populace, power, industry, and infrastructure. There are only several million people living in Costa Rica, as opposed to your billions in Europe, thus, your claim is somewhat skewed. A 33% representation in your Senate for a 'few-million' population territory, as opposed to a territory of a populace of billions, is also skewed. I'd place Costa Rica at roughly maybe 5% - 10% of your entire economy, industry, and around 1%, or possibly less than that, of your population base, while skeptically recongizing your claim of 25% of your entire national territory.

The fact of the matter is that Sharina wants Costa Rica for the land and the reasons I've already stated earlier in the conference. We consider the Costa Rican elections to join Great Romeo as a rigged election due to Great Romeo's influence on the Costa Rican government and media. If elections were held and all Great Romeoan influence were eliminated, then it would have provided for a most optimal result, as they would have chosen to join either Sharina or Great Romeo or whoever else, without 'vote-bullying' or pro-nation-X propganda. Alas, this cannot happen, as we cannot undo Great Romeo's influence on Costa Rica easily. We cannot return Costa Rica to neutrality for at least a generation or two, once all foreign influences have worn off, assuming we cease all foreign influence in Costa Rica right this minute.

Thus we both are faced with a problem."

OOC: Does this guy like "arching eyebrows" or something? :)

IC:

Again, with a diplomatic voice, Anya Amasova spoke:

"Mister Pal'so,

Costa Rica, as one of three states in our Republic system, makes up 33% of Senate seats due to each state, regardless of population, having the same amount of political represenation as other states. We do not consider it "skewed".

As Soviet satelite states bonded with the Soviet Union more than the technological 'better off' Western neighbors, Costa Rica has an extremely strong connection to our Republic.

We do not view this as a problem at all. Costa Rica is only a minor part of Central America, and we would grant any railway built to Panama from Nicaragua joint-territory, to ensure free trade, if needed."
Sharina
24-08-2005, 07:02
Maui, what program was the program you used for your battleship? I've been looking forever for a modeling program for navy ships. Here's a thread about it (My search for navy pictures and programs)....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438890
Mauiwowee
24-08-2005, 07:09
Maui, what program was the program you used for your battleship? I've been looking forever for a modeling program for navy ships. Here's a thread about it (My search for navy pictures and programs)....

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438890

OOC: It's the same as Norleans used for its planes - RCCad, found at www.rccad.com They have samples there as well that can be used with the fully registered version. I got one and modified it. I'm also working on my own Aircraft Carrier using the program and except for specs, planes by the dozen. Kewl huh? :cool:
Vineyard
24-08-2005, 07:11
- Encrypted telegram to Great Romeo-
We have elected to aid you in your time of need, and are fufilling your request for more anti-air batteries and guns. We will send them as they are produced. A ship with 250 Mobile Batteries are being sent along in a ship right now, and will arrive at Puerto Limbon in a few days. The ship is also carrying ammunition.
Umm...

How the hell did this tanker get past my blockade of the Caribbean, not to mention USSNA's satellite recon of the Atlantic, and his support White Tiger Fleet?

I clearly stated that all non-allied shipping to Costa Rica were to be stopped and forced to turn back or be fired upon.


EDIT: Also, any Croatian shipping would be flagged in the Atlantic Ocean and watched very closely (if they travelled elsewhere, not towards my blockade) especially if they try to sail to dock anywhere in the Americas, as Sharina is suspicious of Croatian ships due to the Sharina-Vineyard Treaty, as well as non-allied Europeans (USSNA and TGSR are the only Europeans Sharina trusts) in general.
ooc: Well, you never posted any oposition to us sending a ship to our allies, which is completely valid. Thousands of tankers out there, if the government of Vineyard somehow found out you were watching our shipping (Remember, we don't know its really USSNA doing it. Any mention of USSNA feeding you intell on our ship movements would be a plead for war.) there would be serious consequences.

As to the blockade, I honestly had no idea you had one. No matter, that was for you to RP, not me. Otherwise, me RPing your ships stoping mine would be considered 'godmoding' in a sence.

Or did you want me to make a lame posting about how a sailor had really bad gass in the middle of the atlantic, or that the ship was still sailing for some weird, abnormal reason. Tankers, afterall, arn't supposed to sail. :rolleyes:
Sharina
24-08-2005, 07:16
ooc: Well, you never posted any oposition to us sending a ship to our allies, which is completely valid. Thousands of tankers out there, if the government of Vineyard somehow found out you were watching our shipping (Remember, we don't know its really USSNA doing it. Any mention of USSNA feeding you intell on our ship movements would be a plead for war.) there would be serious consequences.

As to the blockade, I honestly had no idea you had one. No matter, that was for you to RP, not me. Otherwise, me RPing your ships stoping mine would be considered 'godmoding' in a sence.

Or did you want me to make a lame posting about how a sailor had really bad gass in the middle of the atlantic, or that the ship was still sailing for some weird, abnormal reason. Tankers, afterall, arn't supposed to sail. :rolleyes:

OOC:

I posted yesterday (I believe) as an IC announcement that all non-allied shipping would be stopped and forced to return to their ports, or seek another route not going through the Sharina "claimed" Caribbean waters.

Your tanker could travel to the Pacific side of Costa Rica, therefore problem solved. You bypass my Caribbean blockade, and your stuff can get through.

In addition, what I meant by "monitoring" was the deal that USSNA and I reached IC'ly yesterday or so via secret comminques.

Hope I cleared up some stuff. ;)
The Great Sixth Reich
24-08-2005, 07:21
OOC: Quick question: Who is going to RP this "Miss Ashley Vineyard"? I want to RP the trial... but Sharina could RP the travel to Germany in non-detailed third person.
Mauiwowee
24-08-2005, 07:28
OOC:

I posted yesterday (I believe) as an IC announcement that all non-allied shipping would be stopped and forced to return to their ports, or seek another route not going through the Sharina "claimed" Caribbean waters.

Your tanker could travel to the Pacific side of Costa Rica, therefore problem solved. You bypass my Caribbean blockade, and your stuff can get through.

In addition, what I meant by "monitoring" was the deal that USSNA and I reached IC'ly yesterday or so via secret comminques.

Hope I cleared up some stuff. ;)

OOC: I'd just add that pursuant to the new peace between Vinny and Maui, his ship would be permitted into the Pacific and since it appears to be a tanker from all outward appearances, that just happens to be smuggling AA batteries, we would not, pursuant to the Narcosis Doctrine, stopped it or attempted a search since we would have no info. to give us probable cause to believe the ship is involved in smuggling. We'd just think it was a tanker headed to Costa Rica with Vineyardian oil or such. I'd say problem solved if the ship lands on the Pacific side of Costa Rica. Just my 2 cents
Vineyard
24-08-2005, 07:29
OOC:

I posted yesterday (I believe) as an IC announcement that all non-allied shipping would be stopped and forced to return to their ports, or seek another route not going through the Sharina "claimed" Caribbean waters.

Your tanker could travel to the Pacific side of Costa Rica, therefore problem solved. You bypass my Caribbean blockade, and your stuff can get through.

In addition, what I meant by "monitoring" was the deal that USSNA and I reached IC'ly yesterday or so via secret comminques.

Hope I cleared up some stuff. ;)ooc: Wow... a bit unexpected.

My government thinks you are too busy with Costa Rica to notice a lone tanker. I'm not going to pull a VI and reset time to make things right. Nor will I edit any postings to say that it was launched into the pacific either.

Just do what you gotta do. Assume the tanker was just approaching the blockade.
The Black Merchants
24-08-2005, 16:16
A non-descript man laid at a warm, luxurious, and white-sanded beach with his wife and two children. The two children were splashing around and fooling with each other in the water, as the wife laughed out of happiness. The man smiled and looked towards his wife.

"I have to go to the bathroom, and check on Anna. She was somewhat sick this morning, and I should check to see if she's feeling any better."

The wife nodded.

"Go ahead, I'll watch the boys. We'll still be here when you return, and hopefully Anna is feeling better. Perhaps she is feeling well enough to join us?"

The man smiled.

"We'll see. I love you."

The man departed, leaving his wife with a geniune feeling of happiness that only a successful marriage could bring. Several minutes later, the man approached his hotel, with a dark thought crossing over his mind.

I hate doing this, but I have to smuggle this last batch of drugs so that my family and I will finally have the money we need for the kids college funds. Three kids is a huge drain on anyone's finances. I'll finally be free the instant I get rid of these drugs, and acquiring over $300,000 which should go a long way towards college for my kids.

The man approached a room several doors away from his rented room. He opened the door, and another nondescript man was waiting inside the room, along with a large briefcase.

The father spoke.

"Lets do this, and go our seperate ways. For the kids."


"For your kids." replyed the man.

The father only nodded and went into the batheroom. Several minutes later he came out with a baggie. On the table lay a small non-descript bag full of small, unmarked, nonsequencial bills. The father took the bag and exchanged it for the much smaller baggie and left; he had done his job.

Hours later the man was on his way back home. He had snuck past customs with ease; he had done it so many times before. When he got home the man went to his employer and gave them the baggie, he now had the next 2 weeks off.

At the man's emplorers, CENSORED, the baggie was taken to a small clean-room. No dust or static would interfere with the content of ther baggie. As the technicians sliced open the baggy, what appered to be crack cocain came out. But something was in the the fine white powder, as they pulled it out and gently cleaned it off it soon became apparent what it was: a memory chip. "Sir, we have the chip," said one of masked men.
Whittier--
24-08-2005, 16:56
Umm...

How the hell did this tanker get past my blockade of the Caribbean, not to mention USSNA's satellite recon of the Atlantic, and his support White Tiger Fleet?

I clearly stated that all non-allied shipping to Costa Rica were to be stopped and forced to turn back or be fired upon.


EDIT: Also, any Croatian shipping would be flagged in the Atlantic Ocean and watched very closely (if they travelled elsewhere, not towards my blockade) especially if they try to sail to dock anywhere in the Americas, as Sharina is suspicious of Croatian ships due to the Sharina-Vineyard Treaty, as well as non-allied Europeans (USSNA and TGSR are the only Europeans Sharina trusts) in general.
OOC: He'd still have access to Grenada. Due to alliance between Vineyard and Whittier.
Whittier--
24-08-2005, 19:15
who is in Foam? I might need to ask for use of territory.

Also, how big an airbase would I be able to have on Grenada and how many aircraft would it be able to hold? How many runways?
The Great Sixth Reich
24-08-2005, 21:19
Also, how big an airbase would I be able to have on Grenada and how many aircraft would it be able to hold? How many runways?

OOC: You know, there is such a thing called "Artifical Land"? ;)

Now, looking at Google Earth, there appears to be an abadoned airport near Conference Bay on the eastern side of the island. There's still a runway there, that appears to be around 6,000 feet long. In that area, you could easily expand that runway to up to 15,000 feet, and build at least two other runways of the same size. You could easily build as many aircraft as you want, using either a ton of hangers, or an underground storage facility.

http://filehost.to/files/2005-08-24_03/222948_Grenda.png
Mauiwowee
24-08-2005, 23:20
who is in Foam? I might need to ask for use of territory.


Me, you, Sharina and Warta Endor so far as I know, Wirraway maybe, I'd have to go back and check that.
Whittier--
24-08-2005, 23:29
10,000 IL 102's have entered the Afghan operation.

5,000 are being assigned to Luzon.

500 SU-25's are being sent to Grenada.

Got most of my planes back now that I can pilot them.
Sharina
24-08-2005, 23:33
OOC: A few things before I can RP here tonight.

1. Vineyard's tanker could sail south along the African coast, then sail under Argentina, and then up through the Pacific, and dock at Costa Rica's pacific ports. That way, his tanker still gets there, Sharina's blockade isn't broken, and we avoid a major mess (both IC and OOC).

2. I can't seem to find the FOAM conference. It got lost in the dozens of posts relating to Sharina-Great Romeo conflict and the USSNA - Vineyard war in France.

3. I'd be happy to RP Ms. Ashley Vineyard. All I need is some background info on her, any details about her appearance, her personality, etc. Then I can add a "Sharina flavor" that comes with living in Sharinan lands for a while. That'd be something interesting to RP, a "Sharina'ized" Vineyardian. :p

4. Is there anything else that I need to address, RP out, or requires my attention? :)
USSNA
25-08-2005, 00:48
-=[ ANN The Atlantian News Network ANN ]=-

Hello, I'm Todd Cummings and this is the Atlaintian News Tonight.

In a video conference made earlier today, General Carlos Mencia annouced that Atlaintian forces are now in full control of Morocco. This comes a week after a raid on a rebel camp cost 6 soldiers lives. General Mencia had this to say about the raid: "While it is unfortunate that these men lost their lives, they fought bringing stability to Morocco and prosperity to USSNA." It is expected that the rich mineral lands in Morocco with greatly aid the USSNAs economy and that control of the Straight of Gibralter will bring money in from tolls.

(TGSR could you put down Morocco under USSNA rule?)

In Egypt

Over the skys of Egypt RS-7 Death Adders sealthly made their approach to targets designated and watch by satalites and special forces teams. The targets included ammo depots, military bases, command structures, and radar/communication facilities. This attack was in the old of fashion shock and awe. It was dubed Operation Locust.
Mauiwowee
25-08-2005, 01:34
OOC: A few things before I can RP here tonight.
2. I can't seem to find the FOAM conference. It got lost in the dozens of posts relating to Sharina-Great Romeo conflict and the USSNA - Vineyard war in France.


OOC: Here is a repost of all the FOAM conference posts in one place - everything you need to know is here.

::: Encrypted Message to World Leaders :::

To all national leaders:

This message is being sent on a secure, eyes only channel to the kings, dictators, presidents, etc. of every nation on earth in an effort to ensure that you hear it directly from us first, before the press and other media sources receive the inevitable "leaks" and the information disseminates into the public arena. If you have comments, problems or questions with the following, we'd ask that you contact us directly first to discuss the issue prior to going public with anything - We'd rather resolve any issues diplomatically instead of fight a media war of the words or, worse yet, resort to hostilities. In addition to you, this communication is also being distributed at the FOAM meeting that is taking place in Brisbane, Australia. That said, Mauiwowee wishes to make the following information known:

1. In an effort to deflate the "trade wars" currently going on, W.M.D., Inc.'s aeronautical division will offer for sale to ALL nations the plans, specifications and production rights to ALL current products of W.M.D., Inc.'s aeronautical division with the sole exception of the new Stryker aircraft. This means everyone can purchase Bong Buster II and Head Rush aircraft as well as their weapon systems and engines, aeronautical information and even our advanced AI control systems for those planes. This includes (for you nations considering entering the "space race") Links 50/50 orbiters and launch craft. All we require in return is formal statement of non-agression against Mauiwowee and proper payment (contact General Ripper at W.M.D., Inc. for pricing). If you do not wish plans, specs, production rights, but wish some of the craft, we will gladly just sell you the planes and spacecraft - in other words, we are lifting all trade barriers, including military ones, on these items.

2. Mauiwowee Motors, until now, has been a privately held company owned by the Royal Family of Mauiwowee. As of tommorow it will be publicly traded when we announce our IPO at $22.00/share opening price. The Royal Family will retain a 50 percent stake in the company, but the other 50% of the company will be publicly bought and sold on international markets. Total shares offered in the IPO will be 500 million. Total shares retained by the royal family will be 500 million.

3. We are opening the airports in:
a. Sydney
b. Brisbane
c. Hong Kong
d. Shanghai
e. Honolulu
f. Alice Springs
g. Rio DeJanerio, and
h. Carracas
to any and all international carriers

4. We are offering to cede control over the nation of Nigeria to whomever makes the best offer in terms of transition of power and financial and economic benefits to Mauiwowee - we find the nation to be a strain and drain on us as it is too far from our "home ports" so to speak. Plus, Africa is generally a place we don't like (with the possible exception of the nation of South Africa).

5. This will likely be the most controversial aspect of this message - we are announcing today the implementation of the Narcosis Doctrine. Simply put the doctrine holds as follows:
A. Mauiwowee is the Nation best suited to maintain peace and order in the South Pacific Ocean and Pacific Rim areas.
B. Hostile action originating in the Pacific Ocean against any nation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with immediately, sharply and decisively.
C. Upon threat of destruction or seizure by the Mauiwoweean military, any and all ships in the Pacific shall permit reasonable inspections of their cargo by Mauiwoweean forces. In further explanation, we do not intend to hinder or hamper shipping and normal movement of trade ships or even warships through the Pacific, but we do reserve the right to request to inspect any ship in the Pacific deemed by us to be a threat to the stability of the region, either by the intentions of the ship or the cargo it carries.
D. Ships found to be carrying contraband or those engaged in hostile action are subject to seizure and/or destruction by Mauiwowee
E. The following islands in the Pacific or closely related areas, which are unclaimed by any nation, are hereby deemed and declared as territories of Mauiwowee:
1. Guam
2. Ashmore & the Cartier Islands
3. Baker Island
4. Cocos (Keeling) Islands
5. Cook Islands
6. Heard Island and McDonald Islands
7. Izu Archipelago
8. Jarvis Island
9. Johnston Atoll
10. Kingman Reef
11. Macau
12. Niue
13. Norfolk Island
14. Palau
15. Palmyra Atolll
16. Paracel Islands
17. Pitcairn Islands
18. Samoa
19. Seychelles
20. Tokelau
21. Wake Island
22. Wallis and Futuna
Furthermore, with the exception of the Sharina controlled territorial waters of Antartica, the Southern Ocean is likewise declared to be under Mauiwowee's jurisdiction and control. (OOC: on the assumption that it is possible the master list is not up to date, if anyone claims they already own any of the listed islands, let me and TG6R know and I'll withdraw my claim and he'll up date the list) In the next few days and over the coming weeks, Mauiwowee will be sending subs, aircraft carriers etc. to all of these islands. Those voluntarily submitting to Mauiwoweean rule will be welcomed into the kingdom as brothers. Those who refuse voluntary annexation will be bombed back to the Jurrasic like Mindanao.
F. Cult of Barney followers in any Mauiwowee controlled territories will be arrested and are subject to execution, life imprisonment or deportation in accordance with Mauiwoweean law.
G. The testing of nuclear weapons in the Pacific and Southern Oceans is hereby banned and will be deemed a criminal act subject to action by Mauiwowee.

Again, any of you that have concerns, questions or issues with any of the above, or who wish to discuss Nigeria or W.M.D., Inc. technology are requested to communicate directly with us to work things out in a peaceful and diplomatic manner.

With all due respect and best wishes for a peaceful planet, I remain yours,
His Royal Highness,
King Roxicet "Rox" Soma Narcosis
Mauiwowee
Just before approaching the Dais at the FOAM gathering in Brisbane, King Rox read the latest dispatches from Africa - Good, the last of the mining and military contingent in Virgin Incursions' former territory of South Africa had made it out and were headed to Brazil. It had been a profitable relationship while it lasted - over 4.2 million ounces of gold bullion had been added to Mauiwowee's reserves over the past few years, but with the increasing instability in VI's government the inevitable had occurred and it was time to leave South Africa for the vultures (or more likely Wirraway, Vineyard or The Great Sixth Reich). The Nigerian Army was trained and ready to try and defend themselves and they had a duly elected tribal counsel for the nation that could run things if left alone. However, they could not stand up to a superior force for very long and king Rox was hopeful that someone would take the bull by the horns and step in to take over as the Mauiwoweean pull out commenced over the next few weeks. Sigh - time to talk to the delegates, I'm sure they've got some questions about our statement, they've had a few hours to digest it and we got that message from Whittier - well, that's easily dealt with, just as promised.

King Rox took the stage and as the delegates settled down he looked over their faces and saw serious looks of consternation. Just better jump right in he thought to himself.

"Gentlemen, than you for coming. I know you have many questions regarding the information you were supplied when you arrived, in particular point number 5 and the "Narcosis Doctrine." Please rest assured, I will deal with those issues as I explain further the meaning and intent in all this. However, I would like first to make a quick correction to the materials and then I would like to deal with the issues in order. As to the corrections, item 5(E)(19) should be deleted - I'm not sure how the Seychelles got listed there, but that was a mistake. Mauiwowee makes no claim to the Seychelles, so just scratch that off. Secondly, items 5(E)(12) and 5(E)(21) should also be deleted. I have received a communication from my state department indicating that our esteemed colleague here, Whitter, had a pre-existing claim to Niu and Wake Island. As such, we have no hesitation in rescinding ours. Our intent was not to create hostility between our nations (looking directly at the Whittierian delegate to the conference) or appear to be intruding upon pre-existing claims. More on that later though when I deal with point 5 in detail. For the time being though, you should remove Niu and Wake Island from the list as Mauiwowee is not claiming them. Now, on to the agenda set by our announcement:

The first item has caused some concern here in Mauiwowee. Some fear we are giving up too much. However, we find the trade wars to be harmful to the economies of all nations in the world, even those not directly involved in them such as ourselves and felt that a release of the technology would ease tensions and put a halt to the economically destructive actions of the nations involved in the trade wars (looking at the Warta Endorian delegate). However, it should be noted that first, we are only allowing the release of aeronautical information, our naval and land based technology remains as always. Secondly, the information we are releasing as to our planes, engines, etc. is limited to older models and versions. You'll note our new Stryker aircraft are expressly exempted from this release of information as will be information regarding other new aircraft currently being tested by Mauiwowee. The Stryker and the new planes have significant updates and upgrades over the Bong Buster II and Head Rush aircraft. For example, the computer AI system in the Bong Buster aircraft is version 4.51 of the software. In the new Strykers we are using version 9.48.05 - a full 4 generations of advancement. The systems compare in capabilities and sophistication like DOS 6.22 compares to Windows Server 2003. Obviously, we want a non-agression treaty with those who wish to purchase the information and technology, but obviously, as members of FOAM, we already have such an agreement with your nations - In fact several of you have Head Rush aircraft already since they have for the past few years been the standard FOAM patrol craft in the area. Also, our Links 50/50 space shuttle system has been for sale as an item for several years now. All we've done is offer the specs. and production rights now.

As to item two on the agenda. I think that is pretty self-explanatory. The royal family, myself included, felt it was time to take our company public and bring in some outsiders. Sales have sagged a bit recently and some fresh, young blood in a car company is always good to have. With the money raised from the IPO we hope to be able to bring in a whole new design and engineering team to, among other things, finish the Kharras auto design and get it into production.

As for item three on the list, surely that is clear enough. It's time to promote tourism in the area and what better way to do that than to grand landing rights to international air carriers. Customs and intelligence contingents and air port security is being beefed up a bit to deal with the increase in the number of people making Mauiwowee and it's holdings a destination. It is also another way to increase trade and the free flow of ideas across borders and lessen the impact of the trade wars.

As for item Four, we just feel it is time for us to leave Nigeria. We took that nation under our wing in an effort to help former FOAM member, VirginIncursion deal with threats to her holdings in Africa and to "cover her back" in a manner of speaking. However, as you all know by now, the instability in her government was just too great to overcome and her nation has collapsed - we have no intention of attempting to expand in Africa and never did. We have trained a Nigerian army and put a democratic government in place. They are armed and able to fight and defend themselves and have a government that is poised to grow them into a great nation. However, if they are attacked by the likes of Vineyard, The Great Sixth Reich, Wirraway or another large nation, they won't last more than a year or two without significant assistance. We are hopeful someone will step in and offer to be that assistance and ensure they remain safe as we just do not feel we are able to do so.

Finally, the issue on that is no doubt of the greatest interest and concern to you, item #5 and the Narcosis Doctrine. First, let me ask you to think of "The Monroe Doctrine." For those of you haven't studied much old U.S. history, in about 1824 South America broke away from Spain and Portugal and the nations of Venezuala, Argentina, Chile', Brazil and others were formed. Spain sought the assistance of France and Britain to regain those territories and began initial preparations for war. Britain refused to help and informed the U.S. what was going on and president James Monroe made an announcement which has become known as "The Monroe Doctrine." In so many words, the U.S. told Spain to "back off" and that foreign intervention in to the affairs of North and South America would not be be tolerated and the governments of Argentina, etc. were recognized formally by the U.S. The Narcosis Doctrine is similar, we recognize the legitimate interests of Whittier, Warta Endor, Sharina, etc. in the Pacific and Southern Ocean and we want to make it clear that foreign intervention into the affairs of the Pacific, including the affairs of Warta Endor, Whittier, etc., is not going to be tolerated by Mauiwowee - Just as Argentina, etc. accepted the Monroe Doctrine and worked in their own way to assist in it's implementation and to maintain their soveriegnity, we are hopeful your nations will recognize the Narcosis Doctrine and work with us in this effort to ensure safety and stability for all of us in the Pacific.
Secondly, as to the islands we have claimed. If you'll check the CIA factbook information on those islands, you will see that a significant percentage of them are uninhabited, with some being uninhabitable. It is our intention to turn them into "way stations" in the ocean, weather, radar and communications links, some fully automated in that regard and use them to assist in the implementation of the Narcosis Doctrine. Some of the islands will be used as scientific research stations and/or nature preserves as we currently do with Clipperton Island. Only a few, such as Guam, are likely to see any significant military presence. Also, the communications relays will open for use by anyone who desires to use them and the weather data and scientific research data gathered will be available for the asking to anyone who desires it.
We are certainly not trying to "control" the Pacific in the way a ruler of a nation might do. Rather, we are attempting to control it in the way the Police might try to control a city and we'd like your assistance in that regard. We have threatened to bomb those peoples who resist, that is true. However, as you all know, the Cult of Barney has spread throughout the region and it is our belief that becoming a member of Mauiwowee and being guaranteed a stable, central government and all the economic and other benefits that can be brought to the indiginous peoples of these small islands will not be resisted unless such resistance is fueled by the fanaticism of the CoB. By engaging in bombing of those who resist, it is felt we will be further decapitating the purple headed moster that the CoB has become which, as you know, has threatened the Pacific and Asia in the past few years. If you'll recall, they even nuked a Mauiwoweean holding, killing thousands upon thousands and Warta Endor was significantly threatened by the fall out of the attack.
Third, surely none of you object to a ban on nuclear weapons testing in the Pacific, there is no need for it, nukes work, we know it. There is no need to further harm our planets enviroment in an effort to prove we have powerful nukes.
As to the searching and seizing of ships, as stated in the materials, we do not intend at all to interfere with the normal flow of goods and commerce in the Pacific, nor the normal deployment and patrol of warships. However, we want to ensure that the stability of the area is not threatened by criminals and rouge states who engage in piracy, smuggling or acts of military agression in the area. We will be seeking to inspect vessels only when we have probable cause to believe they are engaged in forbidden activity - and we are more than willing to stand up to the scrutiny of the U.N. or FOAM should anyone claim their ship was searched illegally or that we destroyed or seized it illegally. Again the goal is to be a force for stability and security in the region - the coast guard of the Pacific if you will, not the dictator of Pacific rim policy.

Finally, and this is not in the materials you were supplied - it is time to re-constitute FOAM and return it to its original mission - that of protecting the Pacific only. In the past years, it over extended itself and attempted interventions in the Atlantic and Indian oceans and even in the Persian Gulf to some extent - "we got to big for our britches" as my mother would have said. To that end, I propose that we create a body, similar to the U.N. to govern the nations who belong to FOAM. We will happily host that body politic in Australia, but would also agree to it being headquarted anywhere else as well. We have an emergency, safety shelter for FOAM leaders in Sharina held Colorado for use in the event of a significant threat to FOAM, but primary headquarters should be in the Pacific. Just as membership in the U.N. does not obligate one member nation to go to war should another member nation be attacked, membership in FOAM would not require such a guarrantee of military assistance between FOAM members. On the other hand, just as the U.N. is used to work out and mediate differences between U.N. members and to sanction nations on occasion for engaging in unnaceptable behavior, FOAM should do the same for it's members.

Now, gentlemen, I'm open for your questions and concerns"

With that, King Rox took a step back and looked out at those assembled and waited to hear what they had to say. Meanwhile, in the wings, General Ripper waited to hear what would come of the matter with nervous anticipation. The king had delivered the speech with conviction and sincerety, just as 'Lude would have done, but could this new king command the respect and attention of these FOAM delegates the way 'Lude had been able to - he was about to find out.

OOC: Note - A transcript of King 'Lude's speech has been forwarded to all world leaders as a follow up to the prior announcement of the Narcosis Doctrine.
Field Marshall Lao listened to the speech of the young King.Damnit! he thought Whatever he says, it will be a breach of a nations rights! And abandoning the Atlantic and Indian Ocean, he's mad! I don't know if he remembers but Brazil borders the Atlantic, and Australia, the home of Maui, borders the Indian Ocean! And mentioning the Monroe Doctrine...this young puppy doesn't know a thing about history if he wants to follow this example. America had used it to expand aggresively in North America and the Carribean. If he wants to do the same...

After the break it was his turn to make a speech.

Dear Friends and Allies!

First of all I want to salute our greast host, King Roxcette! *salute and applauds, together with the entire room*

But now to serious bussiness. We have no objection to any bussiness plan his majesty might have, as we will do our own. The companies we have recently acquired are mainly to guarantee our delivery of necessary goods. We feared that due to some actions taken by foreign nations we would become dependant on those nations. We have now an unlimited supply of cars and playstations! *Laughs*

He took a sip of water and his face hardened.

Now about the so called Narcosis doctrine...

Occupying or forcing independant islands, it doesn't matter how small they are, will be recognized by Warta Endor. We have some objections with the Island of Palau, which is, according to large and powerfull groups in Warta Endor, within our sphere of influence. I personally have no objection to an annexation, Mauiwowee after all is a great friend and ally.

Now to the searchment of shipping, Warta Endorean ships will be forced to let the search continue unopposed. I can imagine it will anger the crew of the ships, but they have no choice at all. Warta Endor will assist the search of vessels in the Pacific.

The point I strongly oppose is the shamefull retreat out of the Indian and Atlantic Oceans. I would like to remind the King that the Maui holdings in South America (and Warta Endorean holdings) border the Atlantic, that Asutralia itself and Warta Endor's homeland, Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia border the Indian Ocean. Why abandoning those waters and concentrate on the Pacific, where the only threat is the CoB?

As last point in my speach, I want to announce a few things. Within a short time, Warta Endorean forces will invade Palawan and move into Burma and Bangladesh (ooc. sounds familiar, I gave up waiting for Wirraway). Intelligence thinks after the fall of Luzon and Mindanao a large CoB force has moved to Palawan. We will exterminate that force, no matter the cost. To prevent the CoB getting a new bastion we will move into Burma and Bangladesh. Units of the Fifth army and the 5th and 16h Marines will be involved in this Operation, called Operation Final Act. The invasion of Palawan will involve the First Corps of the Fouth Army and the entire 5th Amphibious Taskforce. If you request it detailed updates will be sent to you.

He sat dwon and sighed. He had done his job. Now wait for the others...

Encrypted Message to Sharina

We will support you in case of war. The Third Fleet, which has taken to sea, will support you and your forces.

Adm. Cranach
King Rox stood up and spoke again:

"Thank you for your words of support Field Marshall Lao. Let me assure you first of all that if Warta Endor lays claim to Palau, we will be the first to abandon all claim to it. The islands claimed as part of the Narcosis doctrine were islands we understood and felt to be completely devoid of affiliation or claim be anyone. If you have a claim to Palau, then by all means, we will step aside and permit you to assert. Secondly, as to Palawan, if you need our assistance, please let us know and we'll gladly help. We would like to be kept up to date on the operations in any event and will gladly exchange military and other intelligence related to the conquest and division of the Phillipines between us, Whittier and you.

Finally, as to what you claim as a 'Shameful Retreat' to the Pacific - I fear you may be confusing the Narcosis Doctrine with the mission of FOAM and it is possible I didn't separate the 2 sufficiently in my speech. My statements regarding FOAM's return to its original mission was merely a suggestion and as to how FOAM might need to be reconstituted. I think the time when being a member of FOAM obligates us to go to war on behalf of each other no matter where or under what conditions is passed. The USFR is dead and the world is changing. The need of FOAM to control the world's oceans has lessened considerably and is all but dead due to the fact there is no more significant military alliance that threatens the peace of the oceans. We should maintain our strengths in the Pacific as Mauiwowee is doing with the Narcosis Doctrine - this is our home and where are cores were formed, despite our expansion into other land masses, and this is the area of the world that we should protect and care about the most as a group. Now, that said, I have not forgotten about Brazil, Venezeula, Agentina, Chile', etc. and their contact with and concern over what happens in the Atlantic. And we do have concerns over the Indian Ocean as well - I myslef was born on Christmas Island in the very heart of the Indian Ocean. FOAM should and will continue to monitor those areas and will continue through our nations to maintain a presence there. However, those areas should not be the major focus of our organization or it's resources. New alliances can be formed to deal with these areas - perhaps we will all be in such an alliance and perhaps others will be as well. I have been approached about a possible Atlantic alliance with Sharina and USSNA and I'm guessing Warta Endor may be approached about similar such alliances. That is how this should be approached. Through the Narcosis Doctrine and with the assistance of FOAM nations the Pacific is kept peaceful and secure for our interests. Our interests and concerns in other areas are maintained through strategic alliances with other nations and upon other terms.
Finally, if FOAM needs to be completely dissolved and new alliances set up, then so be it. I merely suggested a reconsideration of FOAM's mission in light of the changes in world politics in recent times and the announcement of the Narcosis Doctrine by which we contend all of the Pacific is within Mauiwowee's sphere of influence. Those here are welcome to stay. However, other meddlers should stay out."
Whittier--
25-08-2005, 02:55
General Komesar immediately objected.

"You are keeping us prisioner! If I don't report back in tonight, they will inquire about my well being! AND, I refuse to tell my people to call off the attack."

-In the streets of Tehran-
The armored cars clearly made quite a stir. They had blocked off the traffic by circling around in that block, AND reporters were having a feild day about bad relations and a possible war.

"FUCK off! Know what this is??" a soldier yelled at a reporter who approached the circle a little too closely. The soldier was holding his pistol out the window.


General Turkmanstazi, back in Riyadh, was showing signs of auctually being mad. He was always cheerful, and was never seen mad before.

He pulled the area Imperial Guard commander over and told him to prepare his men and a dozen ospreys. then we went for the phone.

He called the Tehran Conference room.
"Let me speak to Gen. Komesar immediately! This is general Turkmanstazi of the Croatian Middle East army."


"I am sorry sir, you'll have to hold. We have orders that all calls for the diplomats must be routed throught the first lady's mansion first." said the secretary answering the phone, as she continued to chew the food in her mouth.

At the Presidential Mansion, Brezhnekov continued his attempts to get a hold of someone in charge of Vineyard foreign affairs. After repeated attempts earlier he had taken a break but had renewed his effort. He sensed something was up. They were giving him the run around.

Under his rule, Whittier enjoyed good relations with nearly every nation on earth. It would be a shame if one of those alliances were to end up going south because of some diplomatic arm twisting.


In the conference room, Leah turned around and looked General Komesar square in the eye. "You may make your phone call General. If you do not call off your attack, I can assure you the whole world will know of your intentions to create a brand new holocaust in France. Of your quest to conquer all of Europe." she said firmly. "I believe you should have realized that I am not as accomodating as my husband."
She turned toward the guard, "They are each allowed one phone call. Their calls are to be monitored. If Komesar does not call off his attack, notify me."
Whittier--
25-08-2005, 02:58
WNN:

Today, Brezhnekov declared victory on the Phillippine Island of Mindoro. With the capture of Mindoro, Whittier has captured the last of the major islands assigned to it by the Phillipine Division Conference.
There are only a couple of minor islands to be taken before the Whittier part of the Phillipines can be said to be secured.
Whittier--
25-08-2005, 03:03
Whittier's submersible troop carriers have entered the Atlantic Ocean and are headed directly for the carribean.
Mauiwowee
25-08-2005, 03:18
AP: W.M.D., Inc. - China announced today the placing into service of the new JTR1-A Main Battle Tank. Designed and manufactured as part of Mauiwowee's "re-invent the military" strategy, the tank is designed to replace the aging Abrams line of tanks currently in use by Mauiwowee. In describing the new tank, a spokesperson for W.M.D., Inc. stated:
"The survivability of the crew is greatly enhanced by integrated defense systems and armor plating that covers the entire hull and turret of the JTR1. Although the actual details of the armor plating are classified, it is composed of reactive, steel encased depleted uranium ceramic composite, which has a density three and a half times greater than steel alone in varying thicknesses up to 24 inches. The reactive plating on certain critical areas of the tank has directional charges designed to explode outwards to destroy any incoming armor defeating munitions. The turret is fitted with two, six barreled M250 smoke grenade launchers. The standard smoke grenade contains chemicals that can mask the thermal signature of the JTR1. In addition to the smoke grenade launchers, it also has an engine operated smoke laying system. For increased crew protection, the top panels of the tank are designed to blow outwards in the event of penetration by a high explosive anti-tank (HEAT) round. The JTR1also incorporates an automatic fire extinguishing system that activates and extinguishes a crew compartment fire in less than 200 milliseconds. With an impressive assortment of defensive and protective features, the JTR1 has a high probability of returning from the battlefield in one piece. Additionally, the tank features a nuclear, biological and chemical (NBC) protection and clean air system for the safety of the crew in their enclosed enviroment. There is an independent thermal viewer available at all stations, an improved commander's weapon station, GPS navigational equipment, a distributed data and power architecture, an embedded diagnostic system and ground level pulse doppler radar system with "far away" targeting capabilities."
Specifications:
Crew: 4
Length: 34 ft
Width: 13 ft
Height: 8.75 ft.
Top Speed: 60 mph
Weight: 75 tons
PowerPlant: Twin W.M.D., Inc. gas turbine engines developing 1850 horsepower Transmission: hydrokinetic transmission, 5 forward gears, 2 reverse gears
Range: 275 miles max. @ 40 mph (designated cruising speed)
Armor: Thickness varies from 2.75 inches to 24 inches with an overall average of 8.25 inches - Main Armor is Chobbam design, "Samuri folded" steel sandwiching a spent uranium backed ceramic titanium composite. Turrent, Driver & Engine Armor is also "reactive" to deal with critical component/personal safety from advanced armor piercing rounds.
Armorment:
Main Gun: smoothbore 130 mm
dual 20 mm chain guns
Commander's .50 Cal. Machine turn on swivel platform
dual "pop-up" NATO 7.62 cal. Machine guns
Cost: $5.75 Million/ea
Misc: See Press release for additional information.

PHOTOS:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4699/jtr1amainbattletank7pn.jpg

OOC: COMMENTS?
USSNA
25-08-2005, 03:27
((OOC: It is a bit fast, about 15mph fast.))
Mauiwowee
25-08-2005, 03:31
((OOC: It is a bit fast, about 15mph fast.))

I'm not so sure - An M1-Abrams with the governor taken off it's engine can hit 55 on smooth, level ground. Max speed references the best you could ever hope to get. The designated cruise speed of 40 mph is right on target and in combat, depending on circumstances and terrrain of course, you'll often be going slower than that. I think I want stand by my speeds for the present.
USSNA
25-08-2005, 03:35
Well yea, but you must remember that t is governed because it would be unsafe to drive at those speeds. For heavy tanks, 45 mph is about the max.
The Great Sixth Reich
25-08-2005, 03:45
1. Vineyard's tanker could sail south along the African coast, then sail under Argentina, and then up through the Pacific, and dock at Costa Rica's pacific ports. That way, his tanker still gets there, Sharina's blockade isn't broken, and we avoid a major mess (both IC and OOC).
Not going to happen. Read this:

ooc: Wow... a bit unexpected.

My government thinks you are too busy with Costa Rica to notice a lone tanker. I'm not going to pull a VI and reset time to make things right. Nor will I edit any postings to say that it was launched into the pacific either.

Just do what you gotta do. Assume the tanker was just approaching the blockade.

3. I'd be happy to RP Ms. Ashley Vineyard. All I need is some background info on her, any details about her appearance, her personality, etc. Then I can add a "Sharina flavor" that comes with living in Sharinan lands for a while. That'd be something interesting to RP, a "Sharina'ized" Vineyardian. :p
Hmmm.... I need to talk to Vineyard about this.
Mauiwowee
25-08-2005, 03:59
Well yea, but you must remember that t is governed because it would be unsafe to drive at those speeds. For heavy tanks, 45 mph is about the max.

I never said my tank was safe at 60 mph, I just said it could reach that speed if pushed. At 40 mph for the designated cruise speed (i.e. read rated, safe maximum) I"m on target. :)
Vineyard
25-08-2005, 04:07
-=[ ANN The Atlantian News Network ANN ]=-

Hello, I'm Todd Cummings and this is the Atlaintian News Tonight.

In a video conference made earlier today, General Carlos Mencia annouced that Atlaintian forces are now in full control of Morocco. This comes a week after a raid on a rebel camp cost 6 soldiers lives. General Mencia had this to say about the raid: "While it is unfortunate that these men lost their lives, they fought bringing stability to Morocco and prosperity to USSNA." It is expected that the rich mineral lands in Morocco with greatly aid the USSNAs economy and that control of the Straight of Gibralter will bring money in from tolls.

(TGSR could you put down Morocco under USSNA rule?)

In Egypt

Over the skys of Egypt RS-7 Death Adders sealthly made their approach to targets designated and watch by satalites and special forces teams. The targets included ammo depots, military bases, command structures, and radar/communication facilities. This attack was in the old of fashion shock and awe. It was dubed Operation Locust.


ooc: As i have RPed before, Egypt is under the control of a mad-man and genious General Sun, formally of the Mauiwoweean military. It won't be easy.
USSNA
25-08-2005, 04:20
((OOC: okay......

Anyway, Whitter, you better do something. Cause I know I'm not going to RP constant bickering between Vineyard and me. Just locking people in the room wont accomplish anything.))
Whittier--
25-08-2005, 04:21
((OOC: okay......

Anyway, Whitter, you better do something. Cause I know I'm not going to RP constant bickering between Vineyard and me. Just locking people in the room wont accomplish anything.))

(I think Vineyard made clear he is going ahead with his attack)
The Great Sixth Reich
25-08-2005, 04:23
ooc: As i have RPed before, Egypt is under the control of a mad-man and genious General Sun, formally of the Mauiwoweean military. It won't be easy.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/738/skypeenlarged9ru.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Vineyard
25-08-2005, 04:27
"I am sorry sir, you'll have to hold. We have orders that all calls for the diplomats must be routed throught the first lady's mansion first." said the secretary answering the phone, as she continued to chew the food in her mouth.

At the Presidential Mansion, Brezhnekov continued his attempts to get a hold of someone in charge of Vineyard foreign affairs. After repeated attempts earlier he had taken a break but had renewed his effort. He sensed something was up. They were giving him the run around.

Under his rule, Whittier enjoyed good relations with nearly every nation on earth. It would be a shame if one of those alliances were to end up going south because of some diplomatic arm twisting.


In the conference room, Leah turned around and looked General Komesar square in the eye. "You may make your phone call General. If you do not call off your attack, I can assure you the whole world will know of your intentions to create a brand new holocaust in France. Of your quest to conquer all of Europe." she said firmly. "I believe you should have realized that I am not as accomodating as my husband."
She turned toward the guard, "They are each allowed one phone call. Their calls are to be monitored. If Komesar does not call off his attack, notify me."

General komesar chuckeled and shook his head. It was funny that one nation believed it could influence the opinions of thousands of forigners.

General Komesar made that phone call. But it had nothing to do with calling off an attack.

"General Komesar! I heard..."
"I've been feeling a bit under the weather. Its kind of dingy and stale in the air, and it stinks of rain."
"Need an umbrella?"
"Yea. That would be swell. Pigions are everywhere too. Made homes all around the roost."
"Then this umbrella will have to be extra large!"
"Indeed."
"I predict thunderstorms in 5 hours. Be ready."
"Thankyou comrade. I shall."

-Riaydh-
"Have the taken us off hold?"
"No sir."
"Fine then. Get me commander Kovačić"
'Yes sir."
*moments later*
"Commander Kovačić reporting for duty sir." a grizzeled man of medium stature stood before Gen. Turkmanstazi.
"General Komesar is being held captive. Apparently, they got snipers all around the compound. I've ordered all units on standby, and i'm ordering your imperial guard into Tehran. Rescue General Komesar."
"Yes sir. Anything else i should know."
"Yes. Shortly before you arrive, we will get the armed convoy to make a distraction away from the compound. You know, make a push for the presidential mansion. it should divert their security from tyhe compound for a short time. Oh.... take the modified ospreys."
"It would be my pleasure sir." Commander Kovačić saluted and ran out of the room. Soon after, ospreys heaved off the groundand reverted to plane mode, heading for Tehan.

General turkmanstazi watched the ospreys fly off, and muttered to him self "My god, what have I done..."




-Telegram to USSNA from the diplomatic offices in Italy.-
We wish for peace and are pulling our troops from the border as we send this. Consider this a cease fire and an end to the short war. If you wish to draw a formal peace treaty, please send a reply.
The Great Sixth Reich
25-08-2005, 04:55
3. I'd be happy to RP Ms. Ashley Vineyard. All I need is some background info on her, any details about her appearance, her personality, etc. Then I can add a "Sharina flavor" that comes with living in Sharinan lands for a while. That'd be something interesting to RP, a "Sharina'ized" Vineyardian. :p

OOC: I'll give you it IC.

IC:

The RIA sent the Sharinian Embassy in Berlin the profile of Ms. Vineyard in their computer database, so that there would be no mistake in identity:

NATION ID SYSTEM/SUSPECT ID SYSTEM FILE

CLASS: NON-CITIZEN, CRIMINAL TRIAL PARTICIPANT, VIP
PROTECTION LEVEL ORDERED BY GOVERNOR OF POLAND (TG6R VIP COORDINATOR): 100/100
IMPORTANCE TO TG6R: 100/100
NAME: ASHLEY VINEYARD
HEIGHT: TALL (EST.)
AGE: YOUNG ADULT (EST.)
GENDER: FEMALE
RACE: CAUCASIAN
HAIR COLOR: BLONDE
EYE COLOR: BROWN
FITNESS LEVEL: GOOD (EST.)
NATIONALITY: CROAT/BAVARIAN
COUNTRY OF RESIDENTENCE: SHARINA
CITIZENSHIP: SHARINA/VINEYARD
PERSONALITY TRAITS: OPINATED, THINKS LORD VINEYARD I IS A LUNATIC, BUT SUPPORTIVE OF CROATIA. DOESN'T HAVE ANY OBLIGATION TO SHARINA.
NOTES: ESTIMATED (MARKED BY "EST.") DATA TAKEN FROM PHOTOGRAPHS OBTAINED BY CROATIAN INTELLIGENCE.
USSNA
25-08-2005, 04:57
Telegram to Vineyard
From USSNA

We thank you for your cooperation. I hope you dont mind if we still keep troops at the boarder. Road travel will be allowed, but we will check each vehicle that goes through either way. We will also open up shipping lanes near French waters.

Signed,
King Vincent Kain of the United Sovereign States of the North Atlantic
Sharina
25-08-2005, 05:01
OOC:

1. Thanks Maui, I'll try to respond to the FOAM conference tomorrow.

2. I offered the Pacific Ocean route for Vineyard as a compromise, as I do not want to end up squabbling about what is possible and what isn't in the Caribbean, pertaining to the Sharinan blockade, dozens of Sharina RADAR and sensor installations in Cuba, Jamaica, the Bahamas, and mainland of Central America, Vineyard's tanker and the other trading tankers, etc. It'd be a mess.

3. Black Merchants, feel free to continue the "mission" as I won't be able to RP until tomorrow afternoon or night.


EDIT:

The reason for my absence tomorrow is because I have to head into Boston to have my stitches taken out (from my implant surgery a couple weeks ago). Then I only have to wait 2 more weeks before my implant is activated and I'll be able to hear for the first time in my life.

When I get back tomorrow afternoon / night, I can pick up the RP's of FOAM, the Costa Rica thing, and Ms. Ashley Vineyard. :)
Mauiwowee
25-08-2005, 05:04
-=[ ANN The Atlantian News Network ANN ]=-

Hello, I'm Todd Cummings and this is the Atlaintian News Tonight.
*SNIP*
In Egypt

Over the skys of Egypt RS-7 Death Adders sealthly made their approach to targets designated and watch by satalites and special forces teams. The targets included ammo depots, military bases, command structures, and radar/communication facilities. This attack was in the old of fashion shock and awe. It was dubed Operation Locust.

ooc: As i have RPed before, Egypt is under the control of a mad-man and genious General Sun, formally of the Mauiwoweean military. It won't be easy.

OOC: Shock and Awe won't work on General Sun - He's a master of that technique and more. If he's got control of Egypt, you're going to have a major conflict on your hands. You're dealing with a genius level psycopath with some of the most extensive military training and experience that any person could get - hell, he escaped from a Vineyardian Max Security prison - he's the only person to ever succesfully do that. You won't sneak up on him this easily. He'll be waiting for your planes.
Vineyard
25-08-2005, 05:07
-IC- Troops in northern italy retreated back 4 miles to the airfeild, where big C-17s awaited them. Most were given parachutes, while around 1 million troops stayed behind to moniter the situation with USSNA, ocupying the trenches that were dug in the case of war.

-Over iraq-
Citizens came out of their homes and into the streets due to the ground rumbling, only to find nearly a million planes streaming in from the north, landing at massive airfeilds built long ago for such an occasion. Soon, C-17s began to land, while others stoped to refuel and flew east. The local militia's were summoned, armed, and were formed into a 100,000 man army outside of bhagdad. The Beduwin corp came out of their hidden desert base to march north, into iraq. War was brewing. And already birds flew north, away from the comming conflict, feeling it was to be one of epic proportions.

On other C-16's hundreds of thousands of mobile anti-missle systems were deploied using parachute around iraq and distributed to the forming armies. gen. turnmanstazi was seen furiously pulling on his thin beard at such a sight.
Mauiwowee
25-08-2005, 05:09
The reason for my absence tomorrow is because I have to head into Boston to have my stitches taken out (from my implant surgery a couple weeks ago). Then I only have to wait 2 more weeks before my implant is activated and I'll be able to hear for the first time in my life.


We're all pulling for you!!! good luck and good hearing! :)
Vineyard
25-08-2005, 05:18
EDIT:

The reason for my absence tomorrow is because I have to head into Boston to have my stitches taken out (from my implant surgery a couple weeks ago). Then I only have to wait 2 more weeks before my implant is activated and I'll be able to hear for the first time in my life.

When I get back tomorrow afternoon / night, I can pick up the RP's of FOAM, the Costa Rica thing, and Ms. Ashley Vineyard. :)
ooc: Wow. think about that. not having a critical sence all your life, then having it thrust opon you. Then you have to learn to speak and even to understand what people are saying. I mean seriously. Words typed out arn't anything like how you say them in a sence.

Good luck man.
Whittier--
25-08-2005, 05:31
General komesar chuckeled and shook his head. It was funny that one nation believed it could influence the opinions of thousands of forigners.

General Komesar made that phone call. But it had nothing to do with calling off an attack.

"General Komesar! I heard..."
"I've been feeling a bit under the weather. Its kind of dingy and stale in the air, and it stinks of rain."
"Need an umbrella?"
"Yea. That would be swell. Pigions are everywhere too. Made homes all around the roost."
"Then this umbrella will have to be extra large!"
"Indeed."
"I predict thunderstorms in 5 hours. Be ready."
"Thankyou comrade. I shall."

-Riaydh-
"Have the taken us off hold?"
"No sir."
"Fine then. Get me commander Kovačić"
'Yes sir."
*moments later*
"Commander Kovačić reporting for duty sir." a grizzeled man of medium stature stood before Gen. Turkmanstazi.
"General Komesar is being held captive. Apparently, they got snipers all around the compound. I've ordered all units on standby, and i'm ordering your imperial guard into Tehran. Rescue General Komesar."
"Yes sir. Anything else i should know."
"Yes. Shortly before you arrive, we will get the armed convoy to make a distraction away from the compound. You know, make a push for the presidential mansion. it should divert their security from tyhe compound for a short time. Oh.... take the modified ospreys."
"It would be my pleasure sir." Commander Kovačić saluted and ran out of the room. Soon after, ospreys heaved off the groundand reverted to plane mode, heading for Tehan.

General turkmanstazi watched the ospreys fly off, and muttered to him self "My god, what have I done..."




-Telegram to USSNA from the diplomatic offices in Italy.-
We wish for peace and are pulling our troops from the border as we send this. Consider this a cease fire and an end to the short war. If you wish to draw a formal peace treaty, please send a reply.


Leah was notified of General Komesar's conversation. She was also notified of troops movements in Europe. She was pleased. (But her husband wasn't as we shall see in a moment).
She walked back into the room. I see you two have reached a peace agreement she said with relief. "If you two will just cite the terms of your agreement for my secretary to type up so that you both may sign it (she motioned to her secretary). Or if you need to confer to with your governments, you are free to do what ever it takes to get your governments' support for the treaty. You can choose to conclude the treaty tonight or you may leave to consult your respective governments. I hope this day's events haven't been too much of an inconvinience to you gentlemen."

Across the city, Brezhnekov was awakened by a knocking on his door. A young soldier gave him an urgent message. Vineyard was making a massive move toward Iran.
"what the ...?" thought Brezhnekov. First Vineyard's second in command refused to take his call. Now Vineyard was moving troops eastward to Iran.
He thought it had to have something to do with his wife's actions.
He picked up the phone to the Vineyard government again. Simultaneously he issued orders for an emergency call up of reservists and national guardsmen.
Vineyard would never attack an ally he thought. But then again, Vineyard had been acting strangely lately.
Whittier--
25-08-2005, 05:41
Suddenly, Brezhnekov's eyes grew with realization. One of the diplomats was a General Komesar. The people on the phone in Vineyard were saying something about a General Komesar being in charge of the nation while Lord Vineyard was away. They said he was away at a meeting.
The peices came together. It explained why there were armed Vineyardian troops outside a hotel were peace talks were being held. It explained why the Vineyardians were sending a massive amount of forces toward Iran.

He picked up the phone to the Tehran Hilton, where the talks were being held.
The secretary picked up the phone, "Hello?"
Brezhnekov: "This is the Secretary General. I want to speak to General Komesar, patch me through to him directly."
The secretary would normally have made him go through Leah, but not even she could override the Secretary General of the Union of People's Republics.
Just before making his phone call, he had called the Tehran Police Department, and had the snipers loosen their watch on the hotel.

He switched to his cell phone and barked an order for the limo to be prepared. He was going to the Tehran Hilton. He waited on his cell phone for General Komesar to answer.

OOC: I didn't connect Komesar with being the leader of Vineyard until just now.
The Great Sixth Reich
25-08-2005, 05:50
OOC: I didn't connect Komesar with being the leader of Vineyard until just now.
OOC: LOL! :)
Vineyard
25-08-2005, 05:52
Suddenly, Brezhnekov's eyes grew with realization. One of the diplomats was a General Komesar. The people on the phone in Vineyard were saying something about a General Komesar being in charge of the nation while Lord Vineyard was away. They said he was away at a meeting.
The peices came together. It explained why there were armed Vineyardian troops outside a hotel were peace talks were being held. It explained why the Vineyardians were sending a massive amount of forces toward Iran.

He picked up the phone to the Tehran Hilton, where the talks were being held.
The secretary picked up the phone, "Hello?"
Brezhnekov: "This is the Secretary General. I want to speak to General Komesar, patch me through to him directly."
The secretary would normally have made him go through Leah, but not even she could override the Secretary General of the Union of People's Republics.
Just before making his phone call, he had called the Tehran Police Department, and had the snipers loosen their watch on the hotel.

He switched to his cell phone and barked an order for the limo to be prepared. He was going to the Tehran Hilton. He waited on his cell phone for General Komesar to answer.

OOC: I didn't connect Komesar with being the leader of Vineyard until just now.
ooc: LOL. He is second in command when lord Vineyard II is 'away'.

IC: General Komesar smiled at Leah. "I suggest you stay right here. I hear there are going to be thunderstorms outside...." General Komesar cackled maniacly at the situation. Any minute now...

-Mere miles from Tehran, flying low.-
::Alright listen up ladies, apparently the government of our supposed ally Whittier has taken High Lord General Komesar hostage. You know him only as General Komesar. Last contact we had with him was 5 hours ago. He informed us that there were snipers around the diplomatic compound, a hotel. Birds 3-6 will drop down around the building and engage the snipers and any other force around. Birds 2-4 will land on the roof of the compound, blast open the roof access, and proceed into the building to rescue General Komesar. The USSNA diplomat is the secondary objective, but it is not imperitive that we rescue him. Got all that?::
::Roger::
::This is bird one, we are comming up on the city::
::Good. Prepare for battle boys. Fix bayonnetts.::

-Inside the armored cars-
"I hear radio chatter!!"
"Its them!"
::Lads, lets make a push fot the presidential building!::
The armored cars broke their ircle and backed up into a crowd of quickly parting reporters. In doubble file, they motored towards the presidential palace.

-inside the Hotel-
A secratary strode up to general komesar and shoved a phone at him expectingly. He picked it up.
"Hello??"

ooc: I don't want to RP your security forces, so go ahead.

Lol, why does something like this happen at every conference that I attend!?

Convoy has 8 armored Personnel carriers, each with 15 men. The ospreys have 60 men, 10 per osprey.
Whittier--
25-08-2005, 14:09
ooc: LOL. He is second in command when lord Vineyard II is 'away'.

IC: General Komesar smiled at Leah. "I suggest you stay right here. I hear there are going to be thunderstorms outside...." General Komesar cackled maniacly at the situation. Any minute now...

-Mere miles from Tehran, flying low.-
::Alright listen up ladies, apparently the government of our supposed ally Whittier has taken High Lord General Komesar hostage. You know him only as General Komesar. Last contact we had with him was 5 hours ago. He informed us that there were snipers around the diplomatic compound, a hotel. Birds 3-6 will drop down around the building and engage the snipers and any other force around. Birds 2-4 will land on the roof of the compound, blast open the roof access, and proceed into the building to rescue General Komesar. The USSNA diplomat is the secondary objective, but it is not imperitive that we rescue him. Got all that?::
::Roger::
::This is bird one, we are comming up on the city::
::Good. Prepare for battle boys. Fix bayonnetts.::

-Inside the armored cars-
"I hear radio chatter!!"
"Its them!"
::Lads, lets make a push fot the presidential building!::
The armored cars broke their ircle and backed up into a crowd of quickly parting reporters. In doubble file, they motored towards the presidential palace.

-inside the Hotel-
A secratary strode up to general komesar and shoved a phone at him expectingly. He picked it up.
"Hello??"

ooc: I don't want to RP your security forces, so go ahead.

Lol, why does something like this happen at every conference that I attend!?

Convoy has 8 armored Personnel carriers, each with 15 men. The ospreys have 60 men, 10 per osprey.


The secretary said "Sir, the Secretary General of all the People's Republics wishes to speak to you." as she handed him the phone.


"Is this General Komesar?"

Outside, police cars began pursuing the armored personnel carriers. Thus far, the only crimes committed were speed violations and threat to life and property. So it was still technically a civilian police matter. At least until told otherwise.

The entire Tehran Police Department (1,000 police vehicles) began chasing down the motorcade. Police Chief Hoover, shook his head. Vineyardians have strange customs.
This was the first time the average Whittierite had seen Vineyardians up close. They almost all, ended up with the same impression. Vineyardians were loco. The pursuing vehicles were under orders to ticket the convoy and lecture the drivers on Whittier driving laws and on the importance of safe driving.

There was no reason to expect an attack by an ally. Though Brezhnekov did have concerns. Therefore most of the forces in Iran were on stand down. Though, the reservists and National Guard were called up as a precaution.

The Vineyard aircraft were being tracked by Whittier radar installations. But the radar operators yawned at their stations. Vineyard was not a threat. Vineyard was an important ally.
Vineyard
25-08-2005, 18:03
"Yes, this is. What do you want?"
The general Komesar heard them. Propellor blades. His rescue team.

The 6 ospreys swooped in like birds of prey (that's why they are disignated 'birds' as seen im my last post) the Imperial guards men clutching onto stell reinforces loops hanging from the ceiling so they can lean out with ease. In their other hand, they had their guns pointed at the buildings.

::See any snipers?::
::Negitive. They are sneaky bastards.::
::Circle around, seek them out.::
The crowd below was screaming and scattering. A few of the citezens who were armed fired poorly aimed shots at the choopers above.
::Fuckers...:
::Just civilians, no harm done. Birds one, two, land NOW.::
Two ospreys broke from the circling cluster of ospreys and landed on the roof of the hotel. 20 men lept out of them and 'stacked up' on the roof access door.
"Blow it!"
A demolitions expert straped a small C4 onto the door and everyone backed up.
The door blew open, sending splinters flying everywhere. The troops went inside.

::Keep circling::
::Haha, look! Our boys down there!::

Several blocks away, the convoy was speeding through the streats with hundreds, mabye thousands of police chasing them, barreling straight for the presidential palace.
Whittier--
25-08-2005, 20:43
"General this is Secretary General Brezhne.....What is the meaning of this?" said Brezhnekov over the phone and his convoy swirved toward a direction taking it away from the hotel.
'I didn't order this. Where are taking me?" he demanded.
The Secret Service Agent in the front seat looked back at him and said, "Sir we have information that the Vineyardians may be trying to kill you. Agents at the Hilton have secured Mrs. Brezhnekov all ready."
"What do you mean the Vineyardians are trying to kill me? We are hosting a peace conference."
His phone rang, it was General Killemall, Minister of Defense "Mr. Secretary, the Vineyardians have launched an attack on the Hilton. I already ordered our anti aircraft sites to shoot down Vineyardian aircraft over our air space. It appears Lord Vineyard hasstabbed us in the back and declared war on us."

"What the fuck? Is the world gone insane?" thought Brezhnekov.

After a few minutes, he picked the phone back up. "General why the hell are there Vineyardian troops carrying out an assualt in my nation's capital? Is this how you treat people who host peace conferences? With treachery? The Union of People's Republics will never bow to your nation's tyrrany. For the good of the alliance I demand that you withdraw your forces from our territory immediately."
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 00:43
Phone confersation between Jonatan Romanowski (Governor of Poland) and Otto von Hienkel Rommel (Dictator).

"Powitanie?"
"Powitanie. JA jestem Olejek von Hienkel Rommel. Potrzebujemy wobec dawać ty inny praca."
"Co praca?"
"BARDZO WAŻNA OSOBA Koordynator."
"JA uznawać."
"Dobry. Dobranoc."
"Dobranoc."

Romanowski then called Adolph, speaking in German instead of Polish this time:

"Guten abend Adolph. Ich bin Jonatan Romanowski."
"Hallo. Wie geht es Ihnen?"
"Gut. Otto hat erzählt, dass mich Sie rufe. Ich bin jetzt der prominente Persönlichkeit Koordinator."
"Und rufen Sie mich, Ihre erste Zuweisung zu erfahren?"
"Ja."
"Ihre Zuweisung soll das schützen der schönst Ashley Weinburg."
"Okay. Ich kann das behandeln. Danke."
"Danke".
Vineyard
26-08-2005, 00:51
"I don't regard allies taking your diplomat hostage as a good friendship. Now, if you will excuse me, me and your wife have a plane to catch."
He hung up and looked around. Perfect. The imperal guardsmen were securing the room, and had already restrained Leah.
"Incomming!"
Hotel security began to run down an asile when they saw the guards men at the other in. Two were gunned down and the rest hid behind the wall, exchanging fire with the guards.
"Move my lord!"
"Aye, help me up these stairs." The guards men grasped his arms and helped him climb the stairs. Everyone else backed up the stairs, guns pointed towards their rear.

::We got sniper fire!!::
"ARRGGGHHHH!" another soldier fell out after being hit in the sholder. The men inside the ospreys were now shooting our the building windows, hoping to catch at least some snipers. General komesar and leah were escorted into different ospreys and birds one and two lifted off.

-Streets of Tehran-
They had served their purpose. they had delayed the enemy long enough. The two cars in the rear Turned suddenly, amking a road block. Several police cars slamed into them, blowing up. The remaining poliece cars swerved around the werckage only to find that the rest of the convoy had deployed into battle formation. About 3 men were firing out of a roof hatch, 5 from the gon slots, the Turret manned by the car gunner (sporting a heavy machiene gun) had begun to fire as well, and the rest had gotten out and had begun firing from the other side of the vehicules.They knew they would die, but they would not be alone.


-Ospreys, just leaving Tehran-
::Lets get outa here, they will be calling in their airforce soon.::
::X-planes Enroute::
::Roger::
::They got anti air!!!:
Komesar looked out the right window (the side openings had closed) an saw a homing missle ram into the back of an osprey, sending it crashing to the ground. He only saw two people pull themselves out of the wreckage before they flew out of sight.

::Jesus, are we out of range.::
::Think so.::
::Good. Very good.::
Inside the cockpit of his osprey, a little beeping sound started to emit.
"What's going on?"
"THEY GOT A LOCK!"
"BRACE FOR IMPACT!"
General Komesar was too shocked to realize that an auctual missile was about to slam into their vessel, and did not have time to brace.
*BOOM*
The osprey slid out of the sky, and smacked into the sand sideways, blowing up.


-High Lord Sir General Komesar-
DATE OF BIRTH: 1944
MILITARY RECORD: French Forign Legion 1952-1974. -Lord Vineyard's Militia, Brig. Gen. Pormoted to Cheif of Staff by end of Parlimentary wars. Died General of all armies.
DEATH STATUS: Killed In Action.
DIED: Sands outside of Tehran.

Deaths: 22 Imperial guards men. 4 pilots.

ooc: You can RP te destruction of my convoy, I don't expect any to live.
USSNA
26-08-2005, 00:54
Phone confersation between Jonatan Romanowski (Governor of Poland) and Otto von Hienkel Rommel (Dictator).

"Powitanie?"
"Powitanie. JA jestem Olejek von Hienkel Rommel. Potrzebujemy wobec dawać ty inny praca."
"Co praca?"
"BARDZO WAŻNA OSOBA Koordynator."
"JA uznawać."
"Dobry. Dobranoc."
"Dobranoc."

Romanowski then called Adolph, speaking in German instead of Polish this time:

"Guten abend Adolph. Ich bin Jonatan Romanowski."
"Hallo. Wie geht es Ihnen?"
"Gut. Otto hat erzählt, dass mich Sie rufe. Ich bin jetzt der prominente Persönlichkeit Koordinator."
"Und rufen Sie mich, Ihre erste Zuweisung zu erfahren?"
"Ja."
"Ihre Zuweisung soll das schützen der schönst Ashley Weinburg."
"Okay. Ich kann das behandeln. Danke."
"Danke".


((OOC: Could you please post in english, or at least give translations?))
Vineyard
26-08-2005, 00:59
-Shadow Council-
'So Komesar is dead."
"This isn't good! HE WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT US TOGETHER!"
"Will oraslav do the same? Will he protect us?"
"Doubtful."
"Shit, what are we to do."
"I say we come clean, and have an open rebellion. We can ally ourselfes with those whittier goons to the south..."
Then a door slamed open and several Army infantry marched in in dress uniform. General Oraslav walked in.
"LIGHTS!"
the lights came on, and for the first time, the shadow councl could see who eachother were. The Chair of the council, sitting in a high seat was none other than General Bantu.
"Ah, what a suprise! I expected them all to be civilians."
General Bantu responded calmly "You can't win."
"Oh? I already have!"
Then the soldiers opened fire, killing nearly everyone in the room. All excpet for General Bantu, the 'wise'. He was nowhere to be found.

General Oraslov adjusted his gloves and wiped a drop of blood off his glass covering his right eye, sporting a small golden chain that went into his coat pocket.

"That barbarian primitive. Hunt him own."

ooc: I plan for my nation to dissolve into several factions. You will see.
Whittier--
26-08-2005, 01:03
"I don't regard allies taking your diplomat hostage as a good friendship. Now, if you will excuse me, me and your wife have a plane to catch."
He hung up and looked around. Perfect. The imperal guardsmen were securing the room, and had already restrained Leah.
"Incomming!"
Hotel security began to run down an asile when they saw the guards men at the other in. Two were gunned down and the rest hid behind the wall, exchanging fire with the guards.
"Move my lord!"
"Aye, help me up these stairs." The guards men grasped his arms and helped him climb the stairs. Everyone else backed up the stairs, guns pointed towards their rear.

::We got sniper fire!!::
"ARRGGGHHHH!" another soldier fell out after being hit in the sholder. The men inside the ospreys were now shooting our the building windows, hoping to catch at least some snipers. General komesar and leah were escorted into different ospreys and birds one and two lifted off.

-Streets of Tehran-
They had served their purpose. they had delayed the enemy long enough. The two cars in the rear Turned suddenly, amking a road block. Several police cars slamed into them, blowing up. The remaining poliece cars swerved around the werckage only to find that the rest of the convoy had deployed into battle formation. About 3 men were firing out of a roof hatch, 5 from the gon slots, the Turret manned by the car gunner (sporting a heavy machiene gun) had begun to fire as well, and the rest had gotten out and had begun firing from the other side of the vehicules.They knew they would die, but they would not be alone.


-Ospreys, just leaving Tehran-
::Lets get outa here, they will be calling in their airforce soon.::
::X-planes Enroute::
::Roger::
::They got anti air!!!:
Komesar looked out the right window (the side openings had closed) an saw a homing missle ram into the back of an osprey, sending it crashing to the ground. He only saw two people pull themselves out of the wreckage before they flew out of sight.

::Jesus, are we out of range.::
::Think so.::
::Good. Very good.::
Inside the cockpit of his osprey, a little beeping sound started to emit.
"What's going on?"
"THEY GOT A LOCK!"
"BRACE FOR IMPACT!"
General Komesar was too shocked to realize that an auctual missile was about to slam into their vessel, and did not have time to brace.
*BOOM*
The osprey slid out of the sky, and smacked into the sand sideways, blowing up.


Deaths: 22 Imperial guards men. 4 pilots.

ooc: You can RP te destruction of my convoy, I don't expect any to live.


OOC: One thing. If he thinks you have his wife, he is unlikely to authorize a shoot down mission.
Also, was she in the one that was shot down?
Whittier--
26-08-2005, 01:05
-Shadow Council-
'So Komesar is dead."
"This isn't good! HE WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT US TOGETHER!"
"Will oraslav do the same? Will he protect us?"
"Doubtful."
"Shit, what are we to do."
"I say we come clean, and have an open rebellion. We can ally ourselfes with those whittier goons to the south..."
Then a door slamed open and several Army infantry marched in in dress uniform. General Oraslav walked in.
"LIGHTS!"
the lights came on, and for the first time, the shadow councl could see who eachother were. The Chair of the council, sitting in a high seat was none other than General Bantu.
"Ah, what a suprise! I expected them all to be civilians."
General Bantu responded calmly "You can't win."
"Oh? I already have!"
Then the soldiers opened fire, killing nearly everyone in the room. All excpet for General Bantu, the 'wise'. He was nowhere to be found.

General Oraslov adjusted his gloves and wiped a drop of blood off his glass covering his right eye, sporting a small golden chain that went into his coat pocket.

"That barbarian primitive. Hunt him own."

ooc: I plan for my nation to dissolve into several factions. You will see.


OOC: ah ok.
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 01:17
((OOC: Could you please post in english, or at least give translations?))
OOC: If you look at my post history, you'll see that I post translations after the orginal post is made, to save time.

Here's the translations:

IC:

Phone confersation between Jonatan Romanowski (Governor of Poland) and Otto von Hienkel Rommel (Dictator).

"Hello (Note: Formal)?"
"Hello (Note: Formal again). I am Otto von Hienkel Rommel. I have another job for you."
"What job?"
"VIP Coordinator."
"I accept."
"Good. Good night."
"Good night."

Romanowski then called Adolph, speaking in German instead of Polish this time:

"Good evening, Adolph. I am Jonatan Romanowski."
"Hello. How are you?"
"Good. Otto told me to call you. I am now the VIP coordinator."
"And you called me to learn your first assignment?"
"Yes."
"Your assignment is to protect lovely Ashley Vineyard."
"Okay. I can do that. Danke."
"Danke."

OOC to Vineyard:
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/738/skypeenlarged9ru.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Whittier--
26-08-2005, 01:25
Brezhnekov demands of his secret service agent, "Where's my wife?"
Agent "Our agents are securing her sir."
Brezhnekov, "Contact your people and make sure."
Agent "Aye sir." He picks up his phone and dials Agent Giaz.
"Agent Giaz"
"This is Agent Smith. Do you have the first lady?"
Giaz "Negative sir. Our men were pinned down by hostile fire. She was kidnapped by the Vineyardians. They took in an Osprey sir."
Smith, "Oh crap. Apprehend any Vineyardians still lurking around."
Giaz, "Aye sir. We are already securing the perimeter and several persons of Vineyardian descent are being detained."

Smith, "Mr. Secretary, uh..., we've had a small complication in securing your wife."
Brezhnekov, "What do you mean by a small complication? Is she alright?"
Smith, "Our men were assualted with machine gun fire when they went to escort her to safety. And they report seeing the Vineyardians force her into one of their aircraft at gunpoint."
Brezhnekov, "Where are they headed?"
Smith, "Our agents report watching the aircraft head west."
Just then the phone rang, General Killemall reported that anti aircraft batteries had just shot down two Vineyardian aircraft.
Brezhnekov was horrified. His wife was on one of the Vineyardian planes.
"Do not fire at any more aircraft. I repeat do not shoot at the aircraft. My wife is being held hostage on one of them." he ordered.
The Minister of Defense's face went white on the other end of the line. What if they had shot down the first lady?
The order was quickly relayed and the Whittier anti air batteries quickly went silent. And several search and rescue teams were sent to the locations of the chopper crashes to see if the first lady was among the planes' occupants.
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 01:27
OOC: Remember that Moron Vineyard requested to meet with Lord Vineyard II before the trial.

IC: Moron Vineyard, finding out that his brother, the High Lord of Croatia, is dead, and his country was filled with a bunch of lunatics shooting each other with AK-47s, dived back into the TG6R Transport Aircraft and flew back to Germany. ;)
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 01:33
Meanwhile, three UN Sikorsky H-92 Superhawk rescue helicopters were launched from TG6R Northern Iraq. They had just registered their flight plan (OOC: That means Whittier knows), and were to land and assist with the problem in Tehran, as Whittier was a UN member. The first two helicopters were to land at the crash site of General Komesar, whom a RIA spy satillite observed entering a V-22 that crashed. General Komesar's body would be loaded on the helicopter and shipped off to the cryonics facility in the Secure Military Area of Hienkel City International Airport. The third was to land and assist the problems at the Hilton.

Sixty He-33s stationed in Northern Iraq were also launched into supersonic flight, so that their airbreathing engines would allow them an unlimited amount a fuel, and the capibility to quickly take out anyobdy who got in the way of the resue heliocopters. An additional 300 He-23s were launched, to escort the helicopter with the body of General Komesar. (Secret IC) Vineayard made a deal to have the next important Croat cryonically preserved, and General Komesar was an important Croat.

http://filehost.to/files/2005-08-26_01/024202_UNSikorsky_H-92.JPG
Whittier--
26-08-2005, 01:49
Encrypted Message:
To: TG6R
From: Whittier

We are requesting assistance in our search for the first lady. Any assistance you could provide would be much appreciated.

End Message
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 01:55
Encrypted Message:
To: TG6R
From: Whittier

We are requesting assistance in our search for the first lady. Any assistance you could provide would be much appreciated.

End Message

To: Whittier
From: TG6R

Be advised that we are doing this as UN Peacekeepers in the Middle East (OOC: Don't confuse the UN helicopters as my helicopters, although they technically ARE my helicopters. :)). But, we will immediately launch a fourth UN Sikorsky H-92 Superhawk to the other known crash site location. We will notify your nation if your wife is found.
Vineyard
26-08-2005, 02:12
OOC: One thing. If he thinks you have his wife, he is unlikely to authorize a shoot down mission.
Also, was she in the one that was shot down?
ooc: Nope. She is alive. And im my custady.

IC:-Telegram from Zagreb to Riyadh-
Good Friend.
I need 3 million troops shiped back to the homeland immediately.
-General Oraslav

-RE: Telegram to Zagreb from Riyadh-
We are at war friend! We cannot spare any troops, especially for your own purposes!! To secure the world of Croatia for your own!
-General Turkmanstazi

-Telegram from Zagreb to Riyadh-
I am the rightful heir to the empire, as I am the leader of Vineyardian Europe now. The shadow council is dead, along with General Bantu. Would you dare fight my empire? Would you dare fight a 2 front war?

-RE: Telegram to Zagreb from Riyadh-
This empire is not yours to have. Not so long as I am overlord of Vineyardian Middle east! Come and claim your men then.

-Telegram from Zagreb to Riyadh-
Come, let us act like civilized men. I am comming by plane so we can discuss the future of the empire.

General Turnmanstazi read this and sighed. He would not have a civil war after all. He entered the next room and was about to give orders to prepare, but all of his staff officers were slumped over at their controls, with varoius knife of sword wounds. He drew his pistol. The floor boards creaked in the room he was just in. He knew his only chance was if he could radio for aid. he got on his hands and knees and crawled across the room, over dead bodies, and turned into the comm unit isle.
"Yeaaaarrrgghhh!"
General Turkmanstazi felt something hot pierce him, and looked down. A sword petruded from his belly. Wordlessly, 'the killer of islam' tumbled to the ground and died.

::My lord, the deed is done.::
::Very good Konrade. I will arrive shortly. Make it look like some muslim extreemists did it.::
::Yes sir.::
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 02:17
ooc: Nope. She is alive.
ooc: Get on Skype!
Whittier--
26-08-2005, 02:48
ooc: Nope. She is alive. And im my custady.

IC:-Telegram from Zagreb to Riyadh-
Good Friend.
I need 3 million troops shiped back to the homeland immediately.
-General Oraslav

-RE: Telegram to Zagreb from Riyadh-
We are at war friend! We cannot spare any troops, especially for your own purposes!! To secure the world of Croatia for your own!
-General Turkmanstazi

-Telegram from Zagreb to Riyadh-
I am the rightful heir to the empire, as I am the leader of Vineyardian Europe now. The shadow council is dead, along with General Bantu. Would you dare fight my empire? Would you dare fight a 2 front war?

-RE: Telegram to Zagreb from Riyadh-
This empire is not yours to have. Not so long as I am overlord of Vineyardian Middle east! Come and claim your men then.

-Telegram from Zagreb to Riyadh-
Come, let us act like civilized men. I am comming by plane so we can discuss the future of the empire.

General Turnmanstazi read this and sighed. He would not have a civil war after all. He entered the next room and was about to give orders to prepare, but all of his staff officers were slumped over at their controls, with varoius knife of sword wounds. He drew his pistol. The floor boards creaked in the room he was just in. He knew his only chance was if he could radio for aid. he got on his hands and knees and crawled across the room, over dead bodies, and turned into the comm unit isle.
"Yeaaaarrrgghhh!"
General Turkmanstazi felt something hot pierce him, and looked down. A sword petruded from his belly. Wordlessly, 'the killer of islam' tumbled to the ground and died.

::My lord, the deed is done.::
::Very good Konrade. I will arrive shortly. Make it look like some muslim extreemists did it.::
::Yes sir.::


OOC: ok. where does Whittier come in all this?
Whittier--
26-08-2005, 02:49
ooc: Get on Skype!
What is SKype? You keep saying skype and I don't know what that is.
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 02:51
Three RIA V-22s flew below radar into Croatia, filled with RIA agents, the "Elite of the Elite". They were to quickly land near the palace, raid the building, pickup all the bodies, and shove them into the helicopter.

Meanwhile, in Northern Iraq, another six RIA V-22s quickly flew below radar towards the Vineyard Middle East HQ. They were allied forces, so they wouldn't be shot at while they removed the bodies in the building. Nonetheless, RIA agents were onboard, and ready for action should anything happen.

OOC: Yes, I'm removing bodies and shipping them off to the cryonics facility at Hienkel City International Airport. :)
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 02:53
What is SKype? You keep saying skype and I don't know what that is.
http://www.Skype.com
Whittier--
26-08-2005, 03:36
http://www.Skype.com
got it
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 04:38
OOC: Vineyard told me what my forces would find, and that the body extraction teams wouldn't be met with resistance.

IC:

Overview of Crash Sites:
http://filehost.to/files/2005-08-26_01/050849_OverviewofCrashes.png

General Komesar's Plane:
http://filehost.to/files/2005-08-26_01/051212_Komesar.png

The First Plane Crash (2 Survivors):
http://filehost.to/files/2005-08-26_01/051612_Site1.png

The first two UN rescue helicopters made it to General Komesar's crash site within mintues of the crash. The V-22 was situated ontop of a lake south of the first crash site, or at least the fuselage. The engines and external fuel tank caught fire and exploded in the sands north of the lake, while the fuselage skimmed across the water. It was already taking on heavy water due to the explosion, so the twenty two rescue jumpers rappeled down on ropes on each side of the helicopter. In the water, they climbed into the fusselage by breaking the side windows, and each rescue jumper grabbed a body (22 men were onboard, 22 rescuers came to get them). They rushed out of the windows with the bodies as the aircraft sunk farther, but the last six men were still inside as the aircraft completely submerged. They had to swim out the windows, barely managing to do so before they ran out of breath. The helicopters swirled around in the air to position them ontop of the rescuers with the Croatian bodies. Two litters were lowered on the lift system, on both helicopters. General Komesar and the pilot of the V-22 were put on the first helicopter's litters, with two of the rescuers, and lifted up. The remaining bodies were put on the V-22 in the same fashion with their rescuers, half in the first helcopter, half in the second helicopter.

The third UN rescue helicopter landed at the Hilton in Tahran. After the bodies of the dead Croats were loaded on the helicopter, and medical aid was given to the wounded (Whittieran and Vineyardian), they flew away.

The fourth UN rescue helicopter, with five rescue jumpers, landed in the harsh desert south of Tahran, where the first plane crash was. The plane was found loaded to the max, with twenty-four passengers and three crew. However, two of the passengers escaped the wreckage, and were walking around in the desert. They were shouting.

"Sir Črčkarija! Sir Črčkarija! Sir Črčkarija!"

The rescue team was trained in Croatian since they were on deployment near Vineyard-controlled Southern Iraq, but they still were perplexed. They were perplexed because the Croatians were shouting "Cheese Doodle!" repeatively at them.

Then they shouted, "Obličje! Div Sir Črčkarija!" (In English: "Look! A giant Cheese Doodle!", while pointing at the crashed V-22.

Now the rescue team members knew what was happening: They were insane. Knowing this, they quickly covered the two men in straitjacks from the first aid kit in the helicopter, and brought them onto the helicopter. Next, the twenty-five bodies onboard the crashed aircraft were loaded into a fifth helicopter that they requested over the radio for.

After the missions were over, the helicopters flew to Sahl Sinjar Airbase in Northern Iraq. There, they unloaded the two survivors and the rest of the bodies onto a giant Airbus A380-800H. A message was also sent to Whittier, explaining that "all bodies of all crash victims have been identified, and none were that of the first lady". The Airbus A380-800H then flew in a convoy of tankers, AWACS planes, and fighter jets to Hienkel City International Airport (HCY) in Germany. After taxiing to the Cryonics Facility in the Secure Military Area (SMA), they unloaded the bodies and sent them to be cryonically preserved using the vitrification method.

Meanwhile in Zagreb, the three V-22s landed on the roof on the Palace, and fifteen RIA agents disguised as janitors entered the building. They quickly removed the bodies of the entire Shadow Council, and dragged them up the stairs onto the roof, and into the planes. The planes then flew to the Cryonics Facility in the SMA of HCY, where they were also preserved using the vitrification method.

At the Vineyard Middle East Headquarters, the six V-22s landed right after General Oroslav was observed leaving. The thirty agents disguised as janitors quickly entered the building, and brought piles after piles of bodies back to the planes, without time to identify them. The planes then flew off to the Cryonics Facility in the SMA of HCY, where they were also preserved using the vitrification method.
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 23:09
Secret IC:

The Director of the Reich Intelligence Agency (RIA), Ludo Hinkel, was called to a meeting last night at the secret mountain base south of Munich, where the RIA was headquartered. The meeting was between VIP Coordinator Jonatan Romanowski and Ludo Hienkel, and the subject was the security of Ashley Vineyard.

"Guten Abend, Jonatan. Bevor wir Diskus Sicherheitsdetails können, brauche ich einen Hintergrund, auf was schon geplant ist."
"Zustimmung. Sie wird an München Internationalem Flughafen ankommen. Und Sie wird am ArabellaSheraton Großartigen Hotel München schlafen. Sie wird dann eine Limousine zu OLG München nehmen."
"Zustimmung, zu werden wir das Folgende ausführen. Ihr Flugzeug wird von He-23 Kämpferndüsen eskortiert werden. Am Flughafen wird sie von sechs elitären RIA Agenten eskortiert werden. Sie wird in einem smarTruck III reisen. Am Hotel werden sechzig RIA getarnte Agenten, an verschiedene Orte um das Hotel, zugeteilt werden sie zu schützen. Alle Speise und Getränk werden für Gift geprüft werden. Luftsensor wird für giftiges Gas oder Sprengstoffe prüfen."
"Zustimmung."

The meeting was done. The security measures suggested would be put in place.
The Great Sixth Reich
26-08-2005, 23:11
Secret IC:

The Director of the Reich Intelligence Agency (RIA), Ludo Hinkel, was called to a meeting last night at the secret mountain base south of Munich, where the RIA was headquartered. The meeting was between VIP Coordinator Jonatan Romanowski and Ludo Hienkel, and the subject was the security of Ashley Vineyard.

"Guten Abend, Jonatan. Bevor wir Diskus Sicherheitsdetails können, brauche ich einen Hintergrund, auf was schon geplant ist."
"Zustimmung. Sie wird an München Internationalem Flughafen ankommen. Und Sie wird am ArabellaSheraton Großartigen Hotel München schlafen. Sie wird dann eine Limousine zu OLG München nehmen."
"Zustimmung, zu werden wir das Folgende ausführen. Ihr Flugzeug wird von He-23 Kämpferndüsen eskortiert werden. Am Flughafen wird sie von sechs elitären RIA Agenten eskortiert werden. Sie wird in einem smarTruck III reisen. Am Hotel werden sechzig RIA getarnte Agenten, an verschiedene Orte um das Hotel, zugeteilt werden sie zu schützen. Alle Speise und Getränk werden für Gift geprüft werden. Luftsensor wird für giftiges Gas oder Sprengstoffe prüfen."
"Zustimmung."

The meeting was done. The security measures suggested would be put in place.

Automated translation:

"Good evening, Jonatan. Before we can discus security details, I need already planned is a background, on which." "Approval. It will arrive at Munich international airport. And it will sleep at the ArabellaSheraton of magnificent hotel Munich. It will take a saloon car to OLG Munich then." "Approval, to become carry out we the following. Its airplane will escort become of He-23 fighters nozzles. At the airport, it will escort become of six elitist RIA agent. It will travel in a smarTruck III. At the hotel, sixty RIA become camouflaged agents, at different places around the hotel, trains parts become to protect it. All food and drink will be tested for poison. Air sensor will test for poisonous gas or explosive material." "Approval."
The Great Sixth Reich
27-08-2005, 01:11
OOC: The only posts in the last 20 hours have been mine. Come on, people! Post!
Whittier--
27-08-2005, 01:42
OOC: The only posts in the last 20 hours have been mine. Come on, people! Post!
They might be having logging in problems. I need to message Vineyard to find out what role he has for Whittier in his internal conflict.
The Great Sixth Reich
27-08-2005, 01:48
They might be having logging in problems. I need to message Vineyard to find out what role he has for Whittier in his internal conflict.
OOC: I'll ask him when he gets on Skype. It appear that one faction wants to ally with with Whittier. Maybe another faction will ally with me. Maybe Ashley Vineyard will travel to Croatia and become the Queen? Who knows... :)
Whittier--
27-08-2005, 02:25
After severe bombardment and house to house fighting, Whittier troops have taken control of Kandahar. They are now moving to secure the last part of the nation, the Bora Bora region.
USSNA
27-08-2005, 02:28
[ooc: I'll post in a bit. Working on a new rifle atm]
Whittier--
27-08-2005, 02:53
this is the new earth V military. Comments?

The nuclear command and Pandora's Box are still not fully operational yet and thus left out.

Budget: $705,709,882,117

Army:

Infanctry: 655,748 troops Armed with 655,748 OICW Assualt Rifles
Salary:30,000=19,672,440,000
Support Troops: 1,967,244
Salary:30,000=59,017,320,000
Training (300K per soldier)= $196,724,400,000
Ratio:3to1 (will be updated to reflect a 4 to 1)

Balance: $430,295,722,117

Armored: 1,000 M1Abrams
crew 5,000
salary: 30,000=150 million
support: 25,000 troops
salaries: $750 million
Training (300k per person)=$9 billion
ratio: 5 to 1

Balance: $420,395,722,117

1,000 T7 Gilgamesh Tanks
crew 3,000
salary: 90 million
support: 15,000 people
salary: (@ 30K)=$450 million
Training (@300K)=$5.4 billion
ratio: 5 to 1

Balance: $414,905,722,117

Marines:
2 battle islands

Battle Island Brezhnekov
3,000 troops (marines)
Combat (750)
Support (2,250)
150 aircraft (F35)
ratio: 3 to 1 (will be updated to reflect 4 to 1)


Battle Island Smokey Robinson
3,000 troops (marines)(stats same as Brezhnekov)
150 aircraft (F35)

ratio: see above

Total Troops: 6,000
total aircraft: 300 (F35)
Personnel Salaries at 40k per marine: 240 million dollars
F 35 crew: (1 each) 300
Crew salary: (50k each): $15 million
Training (@ 300k per person)=$1.89 billion

Balance: $412,760,722,117

Air Force: 11,363 SU=25s
Crew: 11,363
Salaries: @ 40k=$454,520,000
Support: 68,178 people
Salaries @40K=$2,727,120,000
Training: (300k a person)=$23,862,300,000
ratio: 6 to 1 ( will be updated to reflect 9 to 1)

Balance: $385,716,832,117



11,363 IL-102s
Crew: 11,363
Salaries @ 40K=$454,520,000
Support: 68,178 people
Salaries @ 40k=2,727,120,000
Training (300K per person)=$23,862,300,000
ratio (see above)

Balance: $359,372,892,117

100 C141's (each carries 200 troops)
Range:2,500 miles
Crew: 600
Salaries (@ 40K)=$24 million
Support: 3,600 troops
Salaries (@ 40k)=$144 million
Training (300k per person)=$1.26 billion
ratio (see above)

Balance: $357,944,892,117

200 KC 130's
Range Tanker mission: 1000 nautical mile (1150 mile) radius with 45,000 pounds of fuel (20,430 kilograms) (KC-130R/T)
Cargo mission: 2875 nautical miles (3306.25 miles) with 38,258 pounds (17,369 kilograms) of cargo (KC-130R/T) or 92 combat troops or 64 paratroopers or 74 litters
crew: 1200
salaries (@ 40K) =$48 million
Support: 7200 troops
Salaries: (@ 40 K)= $288 million
Training (@ 300K per person)= $2.52 billion
ratio (see above)

Balance: $355,088,892,117


50 E-3 Sentries
Endurance More than 8 hours (unrefueled)
Crew: 1,100
Salaries (@ 40K)=$44 million
Support: 6,600 troops
Salaries (@ 40 k)= $264 million
Training (@ 300 k each) =$2.31 billion
ratio (see above)

Balance: $352,470,892,117



Navy:
Ratios are 5 to 1. (rules required 3 to 1)

500 Epsilon Supply Subs
Crew: 100,000
Salaries (@ 40k)= $4 billion
Support: 500,000
Salaries (@ 40K)=$20 billion
Training(300k per person)= $180 billion

Balance: $148,470,892,117*

128 submersible troop carriers
Crew: 19,840
Salaries (@ 40K)=$793,600,000
Support: 99,200 troops
Salaries (@40 k)= $3,968,000,000
Training (@ 300k per person)= $35,592,000,000

Balance: $108,117,292,117 (will be used for more support personnel)
The Great Sixth Reich
27-08-2005, 06:37
Whittier, you should list the support ratios for each field. ;)
Vineyard
27-08-2005, 06:43
My newly calculated military:

Leader: Provences devided by the Generals

Oružane Snage Republike Hrvatske

OK MILITARY WITH AN "UBER" ELITE SPECIAL BRANCH

$5 Trilliion budget - 3 Million men per trillion = 128.4 million men

Army: 6:1 logistics
Navy: 5:1 logisticse
Marines: 4:1 logistics
Air Force: 15:1 logistics
Uber Forces: 5:1 logistics

Your budget is $333,333.33 a man, 50% of the uber military total. Your logistics and support are ok - you've got enough people to put up a really good fight and possibly win, especially if you make good use of your "uber force" - a team of specialists that you have developed and that get more money and support than the other branches. There's only a small number of them, but they are gonna be better trained, equipped, supported, etc. than the uber army's crack green beret outfit - we talking Super Duper Navy Seals here. Just RP a little extra spending for them at the expense of some other forces.

+Arabian oil, diamond, precions gem, Croatian Wine ( ) and other trades= 128.4 million troops. (not bad...)

40%= 51.3546 mil.
8.5591 are combat soldiers. 42.7955 are Logistics.
(Armed forces of the republic of Croatia)
-30 HK USP Tactical .45 Autos Weilded by 30 commandos equipped with body armor, helmets, and night vision goggles. (personal bodyguard) and a long sword. Large swirling black capes and sunglasses when undercover.
- 1,200 Airbus A380 Transports (logistics branch)
- the GSR36-A1 production rights (assult rifle, use domestic only)
- GSR36-C3, different (optional:scilenced) version of assult rifle
- CIS .50 MGs. machine guns (http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg05-e.htm)
- 6,559,100 GSR36-C3 armed troops.
- 1,000,000 teams of 2 men armed with CIS .50 MGs.
- 1,000,000 ZG-844 personnel (4 per tank). Tanks include a 120 mm cannon, a machine gun on top, with Anti aircraft capibilities with the cannon, being able to load homing anti- air missles of various types. The tank has Very thick armor, almoast 2 feet thick. The Turret has quick turning capabilities. The crew will involve 3 men; the driver/commander, machine gunner, and the loader/gunner. Although this tank is a powerhouse, it is ungainly and huge, an easy target for planes.
-Tons of ammunition and food (non-perishable) packs.
-All logistics personnel are given standard combat training, and can be used to fight if the need is dire.
- Osprey Chopper/plane transport craft.
- Serbkilla land mines. Weight: 10lbs. 12 inches in diameter 7 inches high. Two cylinder shapes involved. One on top, 6 in diameter, bottom, 12. bottom contains all the explosives the top is the censors. The top includes: pressure censor, heat censor,and has a small wind-measuring device (sticks mere millimeters from ground) that allows it to pick up anomies. The wind-censor coordinates data with a local weather station and other land mines in the area to determine if it is underneath a hover craft or not. If it determines it is under a HV, it detonates. Also, the device cannot be picked up by human hands. The heat censor only detects direct contact with a living being through heat. heat again must be direct. A specially designed machine deployes such landmines, however, a team of workers shoulw follow to conceal it better.
-Kalashnikov AK-47s massed produced. Supply plentiful.

Special Elite: 5%= 6,419,325/5 = 1,283,865 comabt troops.
- Imperial Guard (formerly beserker) troops. Equipped with body armor and GSR36-C3s modified with bayonets attached. Helmets as well. These troops speciaize in the Martial Arts, colse combat fighting, and marksmenship. Extreemly expensive to train. Will never rout.

Other out of leftover $$:
- 2,000,000 Artillary Guns (mobile) of various makes and sizes.
- Napolm Delivery shell. Opon impact, this shell unleashes a firey death to anyone within a 70 yard range.
- 1,600 nukes


--Air and Air Defense Forces (Hrvatsko ratno zrakoplovstvo i protuzra?na obrana) 30.096625 mil./15 = 2,132,978 Air comabt personnel!
- 420,000 Typhoon Eurofighter ZH588
- 1,000,000 SA-2 Guidline SAMs(http://www.freewebs.com/kkenterprisesinc/fighterattackaircraft.htm)
- 1,200,000 X-31 and X-36a planes (half and half)
- 60,000 AC-14 "Mule" Gunships
- 40 "Silver Bullets" really fast and accurate katmakazi planes that hold nukes in the nose of the plane (3 nukes or, 2 H- bombs, or 1 (small) particle bomb).
- 50,000 KC-10 Extenders. (logistics class)
- 100,000 Lancer Bombers.
- 978 reserve pilots



-- naval forces (Hrvatska Ratna Mornarica) 30%.=38.52 mil./5= 7.704
-20 Carrier Groups. Each Carrier group consists of 2 carriers, 3 battleships, and 6 destroiers, 9 cruisers, 5 frigates, and 10 subs. There will be 10 MineSweepers (they carry destroier type guns too) per group as well as a Marine batallion per group (A Croatian Marine Batalion consists of 10,000 men.) Carriers each 100 have X-31 and X-36a planes.


Zuhair:
-still yet to be determined and Calculated. Will be all around 'Uber' army.

Personalities:

- Gen. Oraslav --- Commander of the centeral armies.
Thick set man, balding. Really "Proper". Wears white gloves, the whole cape thingy, ect... 'Proper' behavior.
- Gen. Marko Komesar --- Most veteren General.
Your typical cigar-chomping general. Also thick set. Quick to anger.
- Gen. Turkmanstazi --- Commander of the Iraqi Hervatska Army
Slender man from Turkey. He carries a sword and a silver pistol. Very obedient to the current Lord. Very cheerful. He is the man who led the attack on Mecca.
- Gen. Bantu --- current commander of the Hervatska Army of Afirca.
An Afircian from Zimbabwe. Wears nothing but a ragged green cloth uniform and a small pistol. Mostly silent, but very wise and calm.
- Adm. Herchuk--- Supreme Admiral of the Navy of Vineyard.
A really relaxed man, enjoys lazing about. Knows more than he lets on.

Pics:

http://www.morh.hr/osrh/data/hkov/hkov.jpg
http://www.morh.hr/osrh/data/hkov/hkov.jpg
army

http://www.morh.hr/osrh/data/hrz/hrz.jpg
http://www.morh.hr/osrh/data/hrz/hrz.jpg
air

http://www.morh.hr/osrh/data/hrm/hrm.jpg
http://www.morh.hr/osrh/data/hrm/hrm.jpg
navy


128.4 Million men.
--------------- = 7.781:1 increace
16.5 million men


LOCATIONS (of troops):
2,000,000 in Europe.
5,000,000 in the Middle East
1,000,000 in Africia
Mauiwowee
27-08-2005, 07:03
+Arabian oil, diamond, precions gem, Croatian Wine ( ) and other trades= 128.4 million troops. (not bad...)


Nope, not in the military strength rule, 3 million men per trillion = 15 million dudes total, including logistics and support - no "extras" based on "resources" or "trade" or whatever. Claim your "speciality," but none of this, if this is allowed the military rule is useless as everyone will claim gold, unrainum, corn = 20 million men, etc. It makes the rule useless, besides, your budget takes into account the money you make from selling your oil, gems, wines, etc. That is where the trade deficet/surplus comes in and how your budget works. So, no 128 million guys, only 15 million.
The Great Sixth Reich
27-08-2005, 07:12
OOC: And Vineyard: Please, please, PLEASE, set Skype to run at your computer startup. I'm tired of asking you to log on.

I'll even say it in Croatian for you:

Ugoditi, ugoditi, ugoditi! Zalazak Skype to trčanje at tvoj računalo početak. Ja sam umoran od molba te to klada na.
Vineyard
27-08-2005, 17:43
OOC: And Vineyard: Please, please, PLEASE, set Skype to run at your computer startup. I'm tired of asking you to log on.

I'll even say it in Croatian for you:

Ugoditi, ugoditi, ugoditi! Zalazak Skype to trčanje at tvoj računalo početak. Ja sam umoran od molba te to klada na.
ooc: John, ill log on whenever I please thank you.
Vineyard
27-08-2005, 17:53
Nope, not in the military strength rule, 3 million men per trillion = 15 million dudes total, including logistics and support - no "extras" based on "resources" or "trade" or whatever. Claim your "speciality," but none of this, if this is allowed the military rule is useless as everyone will claim gold, unrainum, corn = 20 million men, etc. It makes the rule useless, besides, your budget takes into account the money you make from selling your oil, gems, wines, etc. That is where the trade deficet/surplus comes in and how your budget works. So, no 128 million guys, only 15 million.
Ok, hold up. I did some quick editing, and i may have thrown 128.4 into the wrong slot. I just edited my origional declarations, which stated I had 16.5 (+1.5 mill from origional) from the reasources (quite rich thankyou). Then i decided to find the ratio between 128.4 and 16.5 to see how much my army increaces and found it was a 7.781:1 increace. I took that number and multiplied it into all of my troop totals (i mean the totals including logistics) then i applied your rato rule to determine how many troops I had.

I used the number 15 million in all of my troop numbers, but added the 16.5 million to show you that i had the ability to draft more. SO, if i use the ratio of 128.4:15, (instead of 128.4:16.5) that would be a greater increase but would leave me without the ability to draft.


I just caught a stupid error I made. I stated that i had: $5 Trilliion budget - 3 Million men per trillion = 128.4 million men

then i stated that:+Arabian oil, diamond, precions gem, Croatian Wine ( ) and other trades= 128.4 million troops.

Which would mean nothing.
Norleans
27-08-2005, 18:09
Ok, hold up. I did some quick editing, and i may have thrown 128.4 into the wrong slot. I just edited my origional declarations, which stated I had 16.5 (+1.5 mill from origional) from the reasources (quite rich thankyou). Then i decided to find the ratio between 128.4 and 16.5 to see how much my army increaces and found it was a 7.781:1 increace. I took that number and multiplied it into all of my troop totals (i mean the totals including logistics) then i applied your rato rule to determine how many troops I had.

I used the number 15 million in all of my troop numbers, but added the 16.5 million to show you that i had the ability to draft more. SO, if i use the ratio of 128.4:15, (instead of 128.4:16.5) that would be a greater increase but would leave me without the ability to draft.


I just caught a stupid error I made. I stated that i had: $5 Trilliion budget - 3 Million men per trillion = 128.4 million men

then i stated that:+Arabian oil, diamond, precions gem, Croatian Wine ( ) and other trades= 128.4 million troops.

Which would mean nothing.

OOC: I'm not quite sure I follow (I think I do, but before I say anything else) - where is the 128.4 number coming from?
USSNA
27-08-2005, 18:19
(Hehehe I only do 1 million men per trillion. And I just hit 2.5 billion people today! I need to update my men. I now have, count it, 24 million men.)
Whittier--
27-08-2005, 19:32
OOC: And Vineyard: Please, please, PLEASE, set Skype to run at your computer startup. I'm tired of asking you to log on.

I'll even say it in Croatian for you:

Ugoditi, ugoditi, ugoditi! Zalazak Skype to trčanje at tvoj računalo početak. Ja sam umoran od molba te to klada na.
My id is Whittier476 on Skype.

Who owns Oman?
Whittier--
27-08-2005, 19:46
Nope, not in the military strength rule, 3 million men per trillion = 15 million dudes total, including logistics and support - no "extras" based on "resources" or "trade" or whatever. Claim your "speciality," but none of this, if this is allowed the military rule is useless as everyone will claim gold, unrainum, corn = 20 million men, etc. It makes the rule useless, besides, your budget takes into account the money you make from selling your oil, gems, wines, etc. That is where the trade deficet/surplus comes in and how your budget works. So, no 128 million guys, only 15 million.
Its 5 million per trillion.

http://www.zifos.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=398&start=0
Whittier--
27-08-2005, 20:07
Airbases in Grenada:

Point Salinas
Grenville

Airbases in the Comorros:
Moroni
Fomboni
Mutsamuda

Airbases in Bahrain:
Al Muharraq (next to Bahrain Int.)
Shai Khisa (south part of island)

Airbases in Azerbaijan:
Ganca
Baku

Airbases in Armenia:
Yerevan
Gyumri

Airbase in American Samoa:
Pago Pago

Airbases in Fiji:
Nousori
Nadi
Labasa

Airbases in Vanuatu:
Luganville
Port Vila
Tanna

Airbases in Qatar:
Doha
Al Uedid (south west of Doha)

Airbases on Luzon:

Laoag
Tuguigarao
Vigan
San Fernando
Baguio
Palayan
Manila
Angeles
Iba
Olongapo (also known as subic bay)
Batangas
Daet
Naga
Legaspi

Airbases on Mindoro:
Mamburao
Socorro
San Jose

Airbases in Iran:
Northwest Iran:
Parsabade (near Azeri border)
Ardabile
Tabriz
Orumiyeh
Sahand (on east coast of Lake Urmia)
Basht (near Caspian Sea in northwest Iran)

Near Tehran:
Tehran
Qazin (northwest of Tehran)
Karaj

South Coast of the Caspian:
Ramsar
Noshar
Sari (near southeast coast of Caspian)
Babol (near southeast coast of Caspian)

Northeast Iran:
Gorgan
Golestan (in the middle of Golestan Province)

Southwest Iran:
Hamedan (in middle Hamedan province)
Sanandaj (Sanandaj province)
Ilam (near Iraqi border)
Abadan (near Shatt Al Arab waterway, right on the border with Iraq)

Southeast Iran:
Zabol (near border with Afghan.)
Zahedan (near both Afghan and Pakistan)


Shiraz (in Fars province)

Madagascar: (to be negotiated with vineyard)
Toliara
Tolanaro
Manakara
Fiangararitsoa
Morombe
Mahanjary
Morondava
Miandrivazo
Sainte Marie
Besalampy
Mahajanga
Mananara
Maroantsetra
Andapa
Antaloha
Ambanja
Sambava
Nosy Be Island
Ampampamena (across from Nosy Be Island)
Iharana
Antisaranana







OOC: actually I haven't decided which will be my bases. Any one got an idea on how much each base costs to operate?
Mauiwowee
27-08-2005, 21:20
Its 5 million per trillion.

http://www.zifos.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=398&start=0

5 Million per trillion max, but Vineyard said he was using 3 million per trillion as his number
Whittier--
27-08-2005, 21:39
5 Million per trillion max, but Vineyard said he was using 3 million per trillion as his number
ok
Sharina
27-08-2005, 22:59
OOC:

I'm finally back. I didn't get back until very late on Thursday night- the Boston Ferry ran quite late. Then I had so much to do yesterday and this morning. Now that I'm finally done with all the busy stuff, I'm able to pick up where I left off.

So far, from what I've read... nothing much is happening except a possible civil war in Vineyard, the capture of Whittier's leader's wife, and a heliocopter crash.
The Great Sixth Reich
27-08-2005, 23:25
OOC:

I'm finally back. I didn't get back until very late on Thursday night- the Boston Ferry ran quite late. Then I had so much to do yesterday and this morning. Now that I'm finally done with all the busy stuff, I'm able to pick up where I left off.

So far, from what I've read... nothing much is happening except a possible civil war in Vineyard, the capture of Whittier's leader's wife, and a heliocopter crash.

OOC: A helicopter crash?! Where?
Sharina
27-08-2005, 23:46
OOC: A helicopter crash?! Where?

Vineyard's heliocopter crashing after being shot at by Whittier missiles.
The Great Sixth Reich
27-08-2005, 23:47
Vineyard's heliocopter crashing after being shot at by Whittier missiles.
OOC: You mean the two airplane crashes? ;)
Sharina
28-08-2005, 01:37
OOC: You mean the two airplane crashes? ;)

Airplanes?

I thought Ospreys were heliocopters? :confused:
Whittier--
28-08-2005, 02:20
Airplanes?

I thought Ospreys were heliocopters? :confused:
They're kind of a cross between planes and helicopters.

They fly like planes. They have wings like planes. But the wings rotate 90 degrees to allow them to lift off vertically and even hover like a helicopter.
But once in the air, the wings rotate the other way and the osprey moves just like a plane would.
Mauiwowee
28-08-2005, 02:20
Airplanes?

I thought Ospreys were heliocopters? :confused:

OOC: Nope, they are planes:

http://pao.navair.navy.mil/press_releases/documents/osprey%20hovering%207.jpg
The Great Sixth Reich
28-08-2005, 02:51
OOC: Nope, they are planes
http://bbs.defence.co.kr/html/bbs/data/airarms4/1-v22-08.jpg

VTOL planes. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-22_Osprey

Hopefully that ends this discussion. :)
Mauiwowee
28-08-2005, 06:56
::: FADE IN :::
Good Evening Ladies and Lads, this is Asus Norton, your SidTV correspondent reporting to you live from Honolulu where we've watched the unveiling of the new Stryker Fighter over the past few days. We told you a week or so ago about the unveiling of the new fighter as the result of a leak at W.M.D., Inc. and soon after that, W.M.D., Inc. issued a press release confirming the existence of the new plane. We are pleased today to bring you photos of the actual aircraft as well as the final specifications of the plane as put into service. Relying on research into the Coandra Effect and the use of the Reynold's stress model as well as advances in thrust vectoring systems, the Stryker is easily the most manuverable fighter jet in the history of modern avaiation. Capable of 11.5g turns at Mach 1.1 and a virtually 90 Degree controlled change of course at 700 mph, pilots of the new Stryker receive specialized physical training and wear specially made, gell cushion filled pilot suits with computer controlled pressure systems and use chairs tilted at a 60 degree angle (reminescent of 1960's astronaut chairs) to enable them to handle the high g-forces that this plane can experience in manuevers. What is most amazing though is the plane in action. First, the artist's sketch from which the plane came from:
ARTIST'S SKETCH
http://www.first-to-fly.com/Program%20Images/Kit/!22%20Future%20air%20carrier.jpg
Now, the real deal. Naval Commander Erica Kane informs us this pilot was suspended for 20 days for buzzing the Black Queen class carrier, Maui off the coast of Washington state
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/662/strykerbuzzescarrier8bn.jpg
Naval Commander Erica Kane confirmed that the same pilot shown in the last photo is the same pilot shown leaving his own wake in the water off the coast of Seattle and that this stunt earned him an extra 10 days of suspension
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6655/jetwakeinseattle1qs.jpg
While the weather was not the greatest, we did manage to get a great photo of a Stryker during a rainstorm in Honolulu
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/673/stormclouds9rw.jpg
Here are two really great nose shots of the new plane we managed to obtain during the demonstrations the military put on for us
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/743/noseatdusk2ao.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/631/noseinsky5ly.jpg
Finally, here is an overhead view we shot as we left Honolulu headed to Seatle to cover the possible war in Costa Rica between Sharina and Great Romeo
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/7498/overheadviewsky2tk.jpg
final specifications on the plane that were revealed to us during our stay in Honolulu are as follows:

Top Speed: Mach 1.8
Average Cruise: Mach 0.9
Crew: 1
Range (max): 2,900 miles
Effective fighter range: 1,300 miles
Thrust: 34,000 lbs, single W.M.D., Inc. BR-2015TF jet engine
Thrust Vectoring: Full 360 Degrees with 0 - 90 degrees (vertical) @ 60 degrees/4 sec. @700 mph @ height. (i.e. at 700 mph at optimal combat height, the plane can go from straight and level to straight up in less than 6 seconds).
Length: 51 Feet
Wingspan: 37.1 Feet
Empty Weight: 18,400 lbs
Max Ceiling: 40,000 Feet
Optimal Ceiling: 15,000 Feet
Climb Rate: 20,000 ft/min.
Hull: Plasticized, Honeycombed, Ceramic Titanium alloy
Weaponry:
A. Nose mounted 20mm Vulcan Cannon;
B. Thermal, laser and radar targeting;
C. (2) Interior bays - (optional, delete 2 heavy bomb underwing standoffs - if not used and converted to fuel storage add 1,500 miles to range (max) and 600 to effective fighter range) standard compliment requires interior bays or stand-offs only. Bays may contain up to 6 AAM missiles each;
D. (2) wingtip standoff, 1 missile each;
E. (8) under-wing/fuselage mounted stand-offs (maximum 8 - delete 2 if interior bays are used) - max 4 missiles each for 32 missiles with 4 standoffs capable of deployment of heavy bombs (assuming bays are not used) or similar munitions (standard load for invasionary support calls for 2 bombs and 6 - 12 missiles);
Stealth Capabilities: None
Defensive Measures:
A. tri-radar decoy signalling technology (if a radar "hit" is detected, the plane will match the echo signal with 3 more identical signals giving the appearance to tracking radar equipment of 4 planes when there is only one and confusing radar targeting systems);
B. rear targeted EMP pulse generator
C. W.M.D., Inc., SAL8400AI computer aided flight, targeting and firing controls
D. flares & standard radar chaffe mechanisms
E. GPS positioning and "shuttle eject" pilot ejection and safety feature
F. Redundant engine fuel supply system
Special Capabilities:
A. VTOL and carrier enabled;
B. computer aided, fly-by-wire controls;
C. AI targeting and defense system controls;
D. "self-shading," bullet proof glass canopy; and
E. "Heads up" display.
Cost: $71.5 million/ea.
The plane is specifically designed for air combat and support roles as a fighter jet and invasionary force support: "A fast and incredibly manueverable strike plane designed to take out the helicopters and other forces that might be waiting on an invasionary force as well as engage and defeat other fighters the enemy might have ready to halt the invasion." Said General Ripper during the announcement yesterday. I'll be back in a minute with your weather, but first . . .

OOC: So, whatta ya' think?
The Great Sixth Reich
28-08-2005, 07:30
OOC: Neat pictures. But.. (speaking as Great Romeo now) I would prefer that you didn't remind Sharina about Costa Rica. He might of forgotten. :)
Mauiwowee
28-08-2005, 07:45
OOC: Neat pictures. But.. (speaking as Great Romeo now) I would prefer that you didn't remind Sharina about Costa Rica. He might of forgotten. :)

OOC: Thanks - Costa what? Sorry, I didn't get that, must not be too important or you'd have said it louder. :D
Sharina
28-08-2005, 08:53
OOC:

Hah. I'm still waiting on a couple of things before I can proceed through with the Costa Rica thing- the plot needs to advance before I can RP anything.

Also, I'm still waiting on the FOAM conference- I stated that my President was going to be there and attend the talks. Whenever the FOAM conference begins, I'll be there to add Sharina's points and opinions on the issues that needs to be addressed.
USSNA
28-08-2005, 13:03
::: FADE IN :::
Good Evening Ladies and Lads, this is Asus Norton, your SidTV correspondent reporting to you live from Honolulu where we've watched the unveiling of the new Stryker Fighter over the past few days. We told you a week or so ago about the unveiling of the new fighter as the result of a leak at W.M.D., Inc. and soon after that, W.M.D., Inc. issued a press release confirming the existence of the new plane. We are pleased today to bring you photos of the actual aircraft as well as the final specifications of the plane as put into service. Relying on research into the Coandra Effect and the use of the Reynold's stress model as well as advances in thrust vectoring systems, the Stryker is easily the most manuverable fighter jet in the history of modern avaiation. Capable of 11.5g turns at Mach 1.1 and a virtually 90 Degree controlled change of course at 700 mph, pilots of the new Stryker receive specialized physical training and wear specially made, gell cushion filled pilot suits with computer controlled pressure systems and use chairs tilted at a 60 degree angle (reminescent of 1960's astronaut chairs) to enable them to handle the high g-forces that this plane can experience in manuevers. What is most amazing though is the plane in action. First, the artist's sketch from which the plane came from:
ARTIST'S SKETCH
http://www.first-to-fly.com/Program%20Images/Kit/!22%20Future%20air%20carrier.jpg
Now, the real deal. Naval Commander Erica Kane informs us this pilot was suspended for 20 days for buzzing the Black Queen class carrier, Maui off the coast of Washington state
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/662/strykerbuzzescarrier8bn.jpg
Naval Commander Erica Kane confirmed that the same pilot shown in the last photo is the same pilot shown leaving his own wake in the water off the coast of Seattle and that this stunt earned him an extra 10 days of suspension
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6655/jetwakeinseattle1qs.jpg
While the weather was not the greatest, we did manage to get a great photo of a Stryker during a rainstorm in Honolulu
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/673/stormclouds9rw.jpg
Here are two really great nose shots of the new plane we managed to obtain during the demonstrations the military put on for us
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/743/noseatdusk2ao.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/631/noseinsky5ly.jpg
Finally, here is an overhead view we shot as we left Honolulu headed to Seatle to cover the possible war in Costa Rica between Sharina and Great Romeo
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/7498/overheadviewsky2tk.jpg
final specifications on the plane that were revealed to us during our stay in Honolulu are as follows:

Top Speed: Mach 1.8
Average Cruise: Mach 0.9
Crew: 1
Range (max): 2,900 miles
Effective fighter range: 1,300 miles
Thrust: 34,000 lbs, single W.M.D., Inc. BR-2015TF jet engine
Thrust Vectoring: Full 360 Degrees with 0 - 90 degrees (vertical) @ 60 degrees/4 sec. @700 mph @ height. (i.e. at 700 mph at optimal combat height, the plane can go from straight and level to straight up in less than 6 seconds).
Length: 51 Feet
Wingspan: 37.1 Feet
Empty Weight: 18,400 lbs
Max Ceiling: 40,000 Feet
Optimal Ceiling: 15,000 Feet
Climb Rate: 20,000 ft/min.
Hull: Plasticized, Honeycombed, Ceramic Titanium alloy
Weaponry:
A. Nose mounted 20mm Vulcan Cannon;
B. Thermal, laser and radar targeting;
C. (2) Interior bays - (optional, delete 2 heavy bomb underwing standoffs - if not used and converted to fuel storage add 1,500 miles to range (max) and 600 to effective fighter range) standard compliment requires interior bays or stand-offs only. Bays may contain up to 6 AAM missiles each;
D. (2) wingtip standoff, 1 missile each;
E. (8) under-wing/fuselage mounted stand-offs (maximum 8 - delete 2 if interior bays are used) - max 4 missiles each for 32 missiles with 4 standoffs capable of deployment of heavy bombs (assuming bays are not used) or similar munitions (standard load for invasionary support calls for 2 bombs and 6 - 12 missiles);
Stealth Capabilities: None
Defensive Measures:
A. tri-radar decoy signalling technology (if a radar "hit" is detected, the plane will match the echo signal with 3 more identical signals giving the appearance to tracking radar equipment of 4 planes when there is only one and confusing radar targeting systems);
B. rear targeted EMP pulse generator
C. W.M.D., Inc., SAL8400AI computer aided flight, targeting and firing controls
D. flares & standard radar chaffe mechanisms
E. GPS positioning and "shuttle eject" pilot ejection and safety feature
F. Redundant engine fuel supply system
Special Capabilities:
A. VTOL and carrier enabled;
B. computer aided, fly-by-wire controls;
C. AI targeting and defense system controls;
D. "self-shading," bullet proof glass canopy; and
E. "Heads up" display.
Cost: $71.5 million/ea.
The plane is specifically designed for air combat and support roles as a fighter jet and invasionary force support: "A fast and incredibly manueverable strike plane designed to take out the helicopters and other forces that might be waiting on an invasionary force as well as engage and defeat other fighters the enemy might have ready to halt the invasion." Said General Ripper during the announcement yesterday. I'll be back in a minute with your weather, but first . . .

OOC: So, whatta ya' think?


[ooc: I doubt that even in these special cockpits that the pilots would pass out after a few second after 11.5Gs. 9Gs is the upper limit for modern tech.

Also, I want to make it clear that my fighters rely on stealth to get in close to their targets in a dogfight, where they use superior agility at high seeds to use thir powerful cannon and short range missiles.]
Mauiwowee
28-08-2005, 15:01
OOC:

Hah. I'm still waiting on a couple of things before I can proceed through with the Costa Rica thing- the plot needs to advance before I can RP anything.

Also, I'm still waiting on the FOAM conference- I stated that my President was going to be there and attend the talks. Whenever the FOAM conference begins, I'll be there to add Sharina's points and opinions on the issues that needs to be addressed.

OOC: it's begun, remember, King Rox announced the Narcosis Doctrine and made a speech and Warta Endor replied - jump on in.
Vineyard
28-08-2005, 17:04
Maui, here it is:
$42,113,374,811,200.00
+(trade surplus...)
$1,163,911,073,771.06
_____________________
43,277,285,884,971.06 <--------------Trillions I spend on troops.


Decimal bumped over to trillions because I can only get troops per million.
...||...
...\/...
43.27728588497106
x 3,000,000 <-------------Number of men per trillion.
_________________
129 million. (approx...)

Little better than my rough calculations earlier.
Ato-Sara
28-08-2005, 19:41
eh?

Vinny arn't you supposed to divide instead of multiply??
The Great Sixth Reich
28-08-2005, 20:47
Maui, here it is:
$42,113,374,811,200.00
+(trade surplus...)
$1,163,911,073,771.06
_____________________
43,277,285,884,971.06 <--------------Trillions I spend on troops.


Decimal bumped over to trillions because I can only get troops per million.
...||...
...\/...
43.27728588497106
x 3,000,000 <-------------Number of men per trillion.
_________________
129 million. (approx...)

Little better than my rough calculations earlier.
:confused:

Your military has 30,321,630 personnel when I did the math.... And I'm Polish. Which means I'm good at math. :p
Mauiwowee
28-08-2005, 22:30
Maui, here it is:
$42,113,374,811,200.00
+(trade surplus...)
$1,163,911,073,771.06
_____________________
43,277,285,884,971.06 <--------------Trillions I spend on troops.


Decimal bumped over to trillions because I can only get troops per million.
...||...
...\/...
43.27728588497106
x 3,000,000 <-------------Number of men per trillion.
_________________
129 million. (approx...)

Little better than my rough calculations earlier.

That's the problem, you're doing it wrong:
Government Budget Details Administration: $3,032,162,986,406.40 9%
Social Welfare: $0.00 0%
Healthcare: $1,010,720,995,468.80 3%
Education: $0.00 0%
Religion & Spirituality: $2,021,441,990,937.60 6%
Defence: $10,107,209,954,688.00 30%
Law & Order: $13,813,186,938,073.60 41%
Commerce: $2,358,348,989,427.20 7%
Public Transport: $1,010,720,995,468.80 3%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%

Your defense budget is $10,107,209,954,688.00. At 3 million men per trillion, you have approximately 30.1 million men in your military including logistics. If you are invaded on your own home turf, you can add your law and order budget in and bump up the homeland forces by approximately 40 million more men. That's how it is done.
The Great Sixth Reich
28-08-2005, 23:38
That's the problem, you're doing it wrong:

Your defense budget is $10,107,209,954,688.00. At 3 million men per trillion, you have approximately 30.1 million men in your military including logistics. If you are invaded on your own home turf, you can add your law and order budget in and bump up the homeland forces by approximately 40 million more men. That's how it is done.
Yep. Look at the post above. :p
Whittier--
28-08-2005, 23:50
OOC: I've done some checking on air force stats. For my airbases, and I found the average airbase of a good airforce has 55,000 personnel but only about 100 planes on average. According to the numbers I found the support to combat ratio for aircraft is more like 35 support for ever 1 combat.

One base has 4,000 log and supply people but only 1 air wing.
Another base has 12,000 people but 2 wings and 2 squadrons.


And check this out I checked navy base stats. And on average:
I found that a naval base has 42,000 personnel but holds only 50 ships.
USSNA
29-08-2005, 00:36
Lets just stick with conventional NS logistics, we dont need to go changing stuff now.
The Great Sixth Reich
29-08-2005, 01:44
An encyripted message was sent to Sharina:

Security is in placce for visit of Ashley Vineyard. Details are below.

CODENAME (PERSON): SESTRA
CODENAME (OPERATION): HRVATkilla
PROTECTION LEVEL: 100/100
FOOD TESTING: AT ALL TIMES
DRINK TESTING: AT ALL TIMES
CAMERA SURVEILLANCE: AT ALL TIMES
RIA AGENT WITH SUBJECT: AT ALL TIMES EXCEPT WHEN PRIVACY NEEDED
RIA AGENT PROTECTION: AT ALL TIMES
VEHICLE OF TRANSPORT: smarTruck III
POWER: INTERNATIONAL'S POWER STROKE V-8 TURBO-DIESEL (325 HORSEPOWER, 560 POUND-FEET OF TORQUE)
DRIVER: JONATAN ROMANOWSKI
RIA AGENTS INSIDE VEHICLE: SIX
ESCORT CONVOY: NONE
EXPLOSIVE SESNORS: AT ALL LOCATIONS
TOXIC GAS SENSORS: AT ALL LOCATIONS
Sharina
29-08-2005, 05:49
OOC: I'll handle the Ashley Vineyard RP for now, putting the Costa Rica thing on hold until the plot progresses (A couple more days, I expect).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comminque to Great Sixth Reich
From: Sharina Diplomatic Branch

Greetings.

Ms. Ashley Vineyard has accepted the request of your court to be present for the trial of Mr. Moron Vineyard. She is undertaking preparations to arrive in your country. She will be flying to Germany, and land at the German city of Kiel. She will then meet her convoy and arrive at wherever the court hearings will be.

She will be escorted by four Sharinan bodyguards, as an additional measure towards any intimidation or undesirable actions that may be taken aganist her, as she is a high-profile Sharinan citizen. Expect her arrival within several days.

Thank you.
~Siana Maa'ci, Director of Sharina Diplomatic Branch
The Great Sixth Reich
29-08-2005, 19:27
Somewhat secret IC:

Ottokar Luft, Dictator of Aviation, was notified that the Sharinian would land at Flughafen Kiel. Upon recieving this, he sent the following message to Sharina, encrypted:

Greetings,

As director of the Aviation Office, I will handle the details of the arrival and departure of Ms. Ashley Vineyard.

First, we would very much like flight details. What aircraft will she be arriving on? What is the airport of departure? Escorts? (OOC: I could get FS2004 screenshots if I get this information.)

Secondly, be advised that the travel time between Kiel and Munich is 7 hours and 19 minutes. Would a flight to Munich be prefered, knowing this?

-Ottokar Luft
Warta Endor
29-08-2005, 19:42
ooc. sorry for my absence lately. My teachers are pretty much the same assh*les as usual. Can anyone give a short summary what happened in the last 20+pages? I just skimmed a few parts so...
The Great Sixth Reich
29-08-2005, 19:48
ooc. sorry for my absence lately. My teachers are pretty much the same assh*les as usual. Can anyone give a short summary what happened in the last 20+pages? I just skimmed a few parts so...
OOC: This thread only has 31 pages total (for me, at least)... ;)

Can you tell me what your last post was, so I can summarize the events past then for you?
Warta Endor
29-08-2005, 20:32
ooc. Around page 66 I believe...
Whittier--
29-08-2005, 20:35
ooc. Around page 66 I believe...
OOC: You don't have it 40 posts a page?
The Great Sixth Reich
29-08-2005, 20:37
ooc. Around page 66 I believe...
This is page 31 for me. Can you please give me a post number, or a description of what you last remember?
Warta Endor
29-08-2005, 21:02
ooc. The last thing I posted was my reply to the speach of King Rox at the FOAM conference. I also rembember some tention rising about Costa Rica and me sending the Third Fleet to check things out.
The Great Sixth Reich
29-08-2005, 21:13
ooc. The last thing I posted was my reply to the speach of King Rox at the FOAM conference. I also rembember some tention rising about Costa Rica and me sending the Third Fleet to check things out.

OOC: Ja. Here's what you missed:

Costa Rica: There's a peace conference in Zurich. Even though Sharina technically declared war, nothing is happening.

Ashley Vineyard: A Mr. Moron Vineyard, brother of Lord Vineyard II, was busted in Munich for a controlled substance violation. The real heir to the Vineyard throne, Ashley Vineyard, who lives in Sharinian New York and is sister to Lord Vineyard I, is going to testify. There's also some speculation that she will become ruler of Vineyard.

General Komesar of Vineyard is sorta "dead": His body was recovered after a plane crash in Iran and is being cryonically preserved in Germany.

Vineyard acts like the crazy Croat he is: Vineyardian forces raided the peace conference in Iran over the dispute with USSNA over France, after Vineyard declared peace with USSNA. They kidnapped the leader of Whittier's wife.

Vineyard screws up his country: General Oroslav shoots the Shadow Council and everybody in the entire military headquarters of Vineyard Middle East. A civil war starts.

FOAM Conference: Still going on.
Vineyard
30-08-2005, 02:36
ooc: i've been busy for the past few days. Last night i was up till 4:00 AM. I read all the posts, and I have resolved to NEVER post again until I have had my morning coffee.
The Great Sixth Reich
30-08-2005, 02:58
ooc: i've been busy for the past few days. Last night i was up till 4:00 AM. I read all the posts, and I have resolved to NEVER post again until I have had my morning coffee.
OOC: Too bad you weren't on Skype.... Oh, and I left you a nice message: "Tolko si glup da, kad bi sam trčao, stigo bi treći! Picka!"
Mauiwowee
30-08-2005, 02:59
ooc: i've been busy for the past few days. Last night i was up till 4:00 AM. I read all the posts, and I have resolved to NEVER post again until I have had my morning coffee.

OOC:
LOL - I can relate, believe me, I need caffine and nicotine myself before I dare post.
The Great Sixth Reich
30-08-2005, 23:18
OOC Note: Half of my military funding and total troops goes into the Luftwaffe, so I can afford some serious aircraft numbers.

Non-Secret IC:

On the international market are:

60 F-16s
3,600 RAH-66 Comanches
89 B-2s.
300 P-7 (LRAACA)
F-35s to load four carriers.

Secret IC:

The Luftwaffe and the Office of Defense finally agreed on the following to be the new lineup of the Luftwaffe:

30,000 He-43 Über Scramjet-powered Multirole Fighters. Link to concept: http://www.fas.org/spp/guide/usa/launch/x-43.htm (with an ATR-style scramjet instead)
300,000 He-36 Fighters. Link to concept: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/x-36.htm
He-77 Bombers to replace P-7s and B-2s.
Naval F-35s to be replaced He-76s. Link to concept: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ucav.htm
The Great Sixth Reich
31-08-2005, 23:04
Secret IC:

During the flight back to Germany, the two Croatians were attached to IVs and told to lie down. Hours later, they were finally behaving normally. Now, the problem was figuring our what to do with them..
Mauiwowee
01-09-2005, 05:21
AP: Mauiwowee released photos today of the army and marine's new close support, attack gunship or "tank killer" as it is commonly refered to. Dubbed the Stinger the plane promises to be a great new addition to Mauiwowee's military capabilities and is another step in King Rox's "re-inventing the military" initiative.

Class: Gunship
Model Name: Stinger
Length: 57 ft.
Wingspan: 65 ft
Powerplant: (4) W.M.D., Inc. LE-120TF jet engines producing 11,250 lbs. of thrust each
Top Speed:vv Mach 0.6 (unladen)
[b]Crew: 2
Max. Lift-off Weight: 55,000 lbs.
Max Range: 1,250 miles
Ceiling: 40,000 ft.
Empty Weight: 21,350 lbs
External Hard Points: 8 (with up to 4 missiles each)
Interior Bays: none
Construction: "Honeycombed, Samuri folded" titanium/steel alloy
Ordinance: up to 22,500 lbs. (up to 4 missiles per ext. hardpoint)
VTOL: no
Carrier Capable: No
Thrust Vectoring: minimal (-15 to +15 degrees at 30 degrees/minute max).
Other Armament:
Eight, 20mm, 6 barrel, chain guns - individual and synchronized firing controls with computer aided targeting. 1,000 rounds ammo, standard load per gun.
Counter-Measures:
1. 2nd cockpit has full redundant control,
2. 2 operational engine flight capabilities,
3. Each fuselage maintains it's own independent fuel supply for it's engines, with transfer between fuselages in flight only upon pilot command.
4. Minor "stealth" capability with engine exhaust liquid nitrogen system for cooling exhaust gases and protection from heat seeking attacks.
4. Flares and radar chaff
5. Laser aided, computer targeting of missiles or "smart" bombs
6. Full radar and thermal sensing capabilities & targeting systems
7. Ground effect cancelling LIDAR pulse doppler radar system w/ computer enhanced target identification capability
Cost: $54 Million each
The Stinger
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/2530/colorizedstinger6ap.jpg
Sharina
01-09-2005, 06:26
Maui, I've been trying to toy around with the plane CAD thing you linked me to.

So far, I've had not much luck. I can't seem to figure out how to make forward wings or vertical wingtips or the like.

Also I can't even comphrehend how you managed to make a naval ship out of that plane CAD thing. :(
Mauiwowee
01-09-2005, 06:38
Maui, I've been trying to toy around with the plane CAD thing you linked me to.

So far, I've had not much luck. I can't seem to figure out how to make forward wings or vertical wingtips or the like.

Also I can't even comphrehend how you managed to make a naval ship out of that plane CAD thing. :(

1. You have to use the buttons on the top of the page in conjunction with those on the left side of your screen. To make forward swept wings, click on the button at the top of your screen that has an icon that looks like an overhead view of a plane and then, in the bottom 1/2 of the window, put your mouse on the right wingtip and you should get an arrow; drag the arrow towards the top of the screen and you'll see the wings move forward.

2. the "free" evaluation version limits you to 2 fuselages (the most versitale part of the program). The ships were made with a registered version that has no limit. Also, note, the ships were made by someone else and I only modified them, but the ship has over 75 fuselages in use to make it.

3. to make vertical wingtips, first, make sure on the left side of the screen you're showing the "wings" tab and then click the + sign to get an extension on the wings. Then, on the top buttons, click the one that shows a "front" view of the plane and in the bottom window, put your mouse on the wing tip's end and click and drag up and the wing tips will go up.

Bottom line, keep playing with it. I used it for 2 weeks, just playing with the trial version before I posted anything or thought I had done something worth keeping and I'm stilling learning how to do new stuff (for example, select a fuselage and then hold the control key and click the + on the left side of the screen and it will create a duplicate of the fuselage you have selected).
Sharina
01-09-2005, 06:56
Thanks for the advice, Maui.

By the way, how much is it for the full version?
Mauiwowee
01-09-2005, 07:06
Thanks for the advice, Maui.

By the way, how much is it for the full version?

$50.00 more or less.

It's too late for me now, but I'll fire up AIM tommorrow at about 9 central and give you an "online tutorial" of all I know it you're around.
The Great Sixth Reich
03-09-2005, 02:58
New Lufthansa Flugzeug! (Details coming soon):

http://filehost.to/files/2005-09-03_01/034449_Lufthansa_Super_Sonic_Fluegzeug.png
http://filehost.to/files/2005-09-03_01/034630_Lufthansa_Super_Sonic_Fluegzeug2.png
http://filehost.to/files/2005-09-03_01/034751_Lufthansa_Super_Sonic_Fluegzeug3.png
http://filehost.to/files/2005-09-03_01/034913_Lufthansa_Super_Sonic_Fluegzeug4.png
http://filehost.to/files/2005-09-03_01/035545_Lufthansa_Super_Sonic_Fluegzeug5.png
Mauiwowee
03-09-2005, 04:52
::: Encrypted Message to Whittier :::

Dear sirs:
We have been working on the supply submarine specifications you provided us over the past month or so and have reached the point where we are ready to begin construction of a submarine for your use. Below are pre-production designs. Full specs will be provided once you authorize actual construction and payment arrangements are made. However, rest assured, the sub will meet, if not exceed, the design parameters you supplied to us. Please contact us to work out the full terms of licensing, construction, etc. of your new submarines.
Sincerely,
Jack T. Ripper,
CEO, W.M.D., Inc.

P.S. I'm informed that the engineers in the R & D department are excited about the design.

cc: Admiral Haly Barber, VP - Naval division

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/2153/whittierssub4fq.jpg
The Great Sixth Reich
03-09-2005, 17:18
New Bomber Aircraft for TG6R, curtice of Mauiwowee's WMD Incorporated.

Class: Stealth Bomber (intercontinental)
Model Name: Reich
Non-Variable Base Model Parameters:
Length: 76 ft.
Wingspan:191 ft.
Height: 19.25 ft
Powerplant: 4 W.M.D., Inc. LRB-195ST engines producing 19,500 lbs. of thrust each
Top Speed: 800 mph (unladen)/525 mph at max take off weight
Crew: 3
Max. Lift-off Weight: 380,500 lbs.
Potentially variable Base Model Parameters
Base Model Max Range: 8,500 miles w/o refueling
Base Model Crew: 3
Base Model Ceiling: 56,000 ft.
Base Model Empty Weight: 224,000 lbs
Base Model External Hard Points: none
Base Model Interior Bays: 4
Base Model Construction: "Honeycombed," Plastisicized, Ceramic Titanium alloy w/ advanced RAM coatings
VTOL: No
Carrier Capable: No
Thrust Vectoring: No
Payload: 56,000 lbs
Design/Stealth abilities: Advanced poly-carbonate RAM (Radar Absorbant Material) coating on entire plane; Plasma Stealth technology w/ Plasma "cloud" coverage for trailing edge of wings and tail fins; triangulated openings and re-entrant designs, Liquid nitrogen cooling for exhaust gases; gold film, bullet proof, cockpit glass, Matte heavy gray and black coloring.
Capable payloads: "Shkval 2" VA-111 Shkval torpedos, Storm Shadow cruise missiles, AGM-129 ACM cruise missiles, RNEPs, JDAMs, JSOWs, BLU-109s, BLU-82s, CBU-100s, CBU-97s, CBU-26s, CBU-89 Gators, EGBU-15s, GBU-10 Paveway IIs, GBU-12 Paveway IIs, GBU-15s, GBU-16 Paveway IIs, GBU-24 Paveway IIIs, GBU-27 Paveway IIIs, GBU-28s, GBU-31s, GBU-32s, GBU-36, GBU-37s, Mark 117s, Mark 77s, Mark 81s, Mark 82s, Mark 83s, Mark 84s, MOABs, Paveways, Paveway IVs. In addition, it may act as a mine-layer.
Avionics: GPS-based navigational equipment, BAE Digital Flight Controls, BAE Full Authority Digital Engine Controls, BAE Head-Up Display (HUD).
USSNA
03-09-2005, 19:29
(OOC: Plasma Stealth was proved to be an fluke. It does not work.)
The Great Sixth Reich
03-09-2005, 21:04
(OOC: Plasma Stealth was proved to be an fluke. It does not work.)
OOC: I knew you would say that.... Wait for Mauiwowee to clear that part up.
Whittier--
03-09-2005, 21:29
::: Encrypted Message to Whittier :::

Dear sirs:
We have been working on the supply submarine specifications you provided us over the past month or so and have reached the point where we are ready to begin construction of a submarine for your use. Below are pre-production designs. Full specs will be provided once you authorize actual construction and payment arrangements are made. However, rest assured, the sub will meet, if not exceed, the design parameters you supplied to us. Please contact us to work out the full terms of licensing, construction, etc. of your new submarines.
Sincerely,
Jack T. Ripper,
CEO, W.M.D., Inc.

P.S. I'm informed that the engineers in the R & D department are excited about the design.

cc: Admiral Haly Barber, VP - Naval division

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/2153/whittierssub4fq.jpg

Encrypted Message to Mauiwowee

How much are we talking? And what terms are you looking for?

Admiral Killgeer
Admiral of the Navy
Union Of People's Republics
Whittier--
03-09-2005, 21:30
(OOC: Plasma Stealth was proved to be an fluke. It does not work.)
???? Link???
Mauiwowee
03-09-2005, 22:59
(OOC: Plasma Stealth was proved to be an fluke. It does not work.)

OOC:
Actually, Plasma stealth does work, just not as well as it was hoped it would and with limits. In 1999 the Soviets claimed to have a bolt on device that would protect an entire plane with a radar absorbing plasma cloud. However, this turned out to be false. They did, however, demonstrate the use of plasma stealth shielding the radar components of a plane. Currently, both they and the U.S. are working on plasma shielding for cruise missiles. It is also rumored that the B-2 Spirit bomber uses some limited form of plasma technology, most likely related to aerodynamics more than stealth, however, due to the highly classified nature of the Spirit's stealth technology, there is no way to confirm this.

The problems with Plasma stealth are
1. It is all but impossible to envelope an entire plane in a plasma cloud - it takes a lot of engergy to do so and the dynamics of plane flight interfere with creation of a "consistent" cloud;
2. If a plane were completely engulfed in a plasma cloud, you would need to have "holes" in the cloud so the plane's own radar could "see out;"
3. If an entire plane were engulfed in a cloud, it would likely emit a glow that would be very visisble - depending on the gas used to create the plasma - regular air would create a glow though;
4. At high speeds, the plane will "outfly" it's plasma cloud - 5-600 mph is thought to be the max speed that would be possible.
5. A fully engulfed plane would leave a huge ion trail that could be picked up;
6. Radar that could see through a plasma cloud could easily be developed once it was known what the plasma cloud's absorption freqencies were - use a frequency outside that range and the plasma is useless.

In short, plasma does work, but it has limits and by no means makes a plane "invisible" it is just another technology that can be used to help limit a plane's RCS (Radar Cross Section). If you'll note the bomber I designed for TG6R - it has plasma "shielding" to cover only the trailing edge of the wings and tail uprights - areas we determined in building the plane were the most vulnerable to returning a large or positive radar signal - all we've done is reduce the RCS of the plane by reducing the odds of a positive radar tag on the tail or trailing edges of the wings, that's it. Obviously, though, the radar frequency absorption of the plasma is classified.

See: http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/plasma/ and http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread89869/pg1 and links therein. Also a google search for "plasma stealth russia" will reveal a large number of sources. The History channel has also recently done a special on the development of stealth aircraft and there is some small discussion in that show of the russian research and possibilities of using Plasma.
The Great Sixth Reich
04-09-2005, 01:29
Encrypted Message to Mauiwowee:

W.M.D. Incorporated, Naval Division:

The Republican Monocracy of The Great Sixth Reich is interested in working with you to develope a new stealth vessel capable of deploying our new UAVs. Please reply if you accept.

Danke,
http://img241.echo.cx/img241/9081/ludo9li.png
Ludo Hienkel,
Oberster Offizier der Verteidigung,
Die republikanische Monokratie Des Großen Sechsten Reich.
Mauiwowee
04-09-2005, 03:53
Encrypted Message to Mauiwowee

How much are we talking? And what terms are you looking for?

Admiral Killgeer
Admiral of the Navy
Union Of People's Republics

::: Encrypted Message :::

Admiral Killgeer:

I"m sorry if my last message was a bit confusing, it was written in haste. What W.M.D., Inc. needs to know as it regards your sub is:
1. How many do you want?
2. Do you wish an exclusive license to produce the subs yourself (Mauiwowee will retain the right to produce them herself, but if you wish an exclusive right, we will guarrantee not to disseminate the specs and design to other potential customers)?
3. Do you want us to manufacture and deliver to you fully equipped subs in keeping with or exceeding your requests regarding the design, or would you rather have a license and the complete specs. so that you can construct them yourself.?

Estimated cost to build a complete sub and fully outfit it with all systems and a single weapons payload is $4.97 Billion per sub. A "bare" sub, in which your people will install final systems and "finish out" the electronics, weapon systems, etc. will cost approximately $2.8 Billion per sub. All specs, but nothing else, so that you can build the subs yourself from "top to bottom" will be $2 Billion plus a royalty of $200 million per sub constructed and an agreement to permit reasonable audits and inspections of your ship building facilities. Exclusive rights to the design and specs will be $20 Billion, with the caveat that if you have W.M.D., Inc. build and complete fully outfitted subs for you, we will reduce the exclusive rights license cost to $15 Billion. Any agreement in which you construct or build the entire sub will require a $200 million per sub royalty payment and any agreement that includes a right of "finishing" by you will require a $130 million per sub royalty payment.

Hopefully, this makes more sense than my last message for which I again apologize.

Sincerely,
Gen. Jack T. Ripper,
CEO, W.M.D., Inc.
Mauiwowee

cc: Haley Barber
Whittier--
04-09-2005, 04:13
::: Encrypted Message :::

Admiral Killgeer:

I"m sorry if my last message was a bit confusing, it was written in haste. What W.M.D., Inc. needs to know as it regards your sub is:
1. How many do you want?
2. Do you wish an exclusive license to produce the subs yourself (Mauiwowee will retain the right to produce them herself, but if you wish an exclusive right, we will guarrantee not to disseminate the specs and design to other potential customers)?
3. Do you want us to manufacture and deliver to you fully equipped subs in keeping with or exceeding your requests regarding the design, or would you rather have a license and the complete specs. so that you can construct them yourself.?

Estimated cost to build a complete sub and fully outfit it with all systems and a single weapons payload is $4.97 Billion per sub. A "bare" sub, in which your people will install final systems and "finish out" the electronics, weapon systems, etc. will cost approximately $2.8 Billion per sub. All specs, but nothing else, so that you can build the subs yourself from "top to bottom" will be $2 Billion plus a royalty of $200 million per sub constructed and an agreement to permit reasonable audits and inspections of your ship building facilities. Exclusive rights to the design and specs will be $20 Billion, with the caveat that if you have W.M.D., Inc. build and complete fully outfitted subs for you, we will reduce the exclusive rights license cost to $15 Billion. Any agreement in which you construct or build the entire sub will require a $200 million per sub royalty payment and any agreement that includes a right of "finishing" by you will require a $130 million per sub royalty payment.

Hopefully, this makes more sense than my last message for which I again apologize.

Sincerely,
Gen. Jack T. Ripper,
CEO, W.M.D., Inc.
Mauiwowee

cc: Haley Barber


Encrypted Message:
To General Jack T. Ripper (Jack the Ripper? :p )

Our government chooses to purchases exclusive rights. With the caveat that the subs can only be built by W.M.D., Inc. We intend to use some of the subs to replace our current Epsilon Class Supply subs. Our government is pending on whether to call the new sub class the Orion or the Cherokee. Unless you company can advise a more suitable name for the new class.
Mauiwowee
04-09-2005, 04:26
Encrypted Message:
To General Jack T. Ripper (Jack the Ripper? :p )

Our government chooses to purchases exclusive rights. With the caveat that the subs can only be built by W.M.D., Inc. We intend to use some of the subs to replace our current Epsilon Class Supply subs. Our government is pending on whether to call the new sub class the Orion or the Cherokee. Unless you company can advise a more suitable name for the new class.

::: Encrypted Message :::
Admiral Killgeer:

As I understand your message, you wish exclusive rights with W.M.D., Inc. Naval Yards to construct fully outfitted subs for you. The cost for such will be $20 billion for the exclusivity of the production and $4.97 billion per sub built - how many do you want?
As to the name, we have dubbed the initial design project "Project Kraken" (as in the mythological beast that lived under the sea) and had planned on a designation of "Kraken Class." However, since you are paying for the subs, we deem it only fair that you decide on the final name for the classification.

We're gearing up the shipyards in French Polynesia and Hawaii to begin production and await your reply (estimated time frame for first sub is 2 years with the subs to follow at a rate of up to 8 subs a year afterwards.)
Sincerely,
Jack T. Ripper (Nope, the "T" stands for "Theo" :p )
CEO, W.M.D., Inc.

cc: Haley Barber
Whittier--
04-09-2005, 04:42
::: Encrypted Message :::
Admiral Killgeer:

As I understand your message, you wish exclusive rights with W.M.D., Inc. Naval Yards to construct fully outfitted subs for you. The cost for such will be $20 billion for the exclusivity of the production and $4.97 billion per sub built - how many do you want?
As to the name, we have dubbed the initial design project "Project Kraken" (as in the mythological beast that lived under the sea) and had planned on a designation of "Kraken Class." However, since you are paying for the subs, we deem it only fair that you decide on the final name for the classification.

We're gearing up the shipyards in French Polynesia and Hawaii to begin production and await your reply (estimated time frame for first sub is 2 years with the subs to follow at a rate of up to 8 subs a year afterwards.)
Sincerely,
Jack T. Ripper (Nope, the "T" stands for "Theo" :p )
CEO, W.M.D., Inc.

cc: Haley Barber

Encrypted message:

General Ripper:

The designation "Kraken" has been submitted. Our government would like to place an initial order for 200 of the subs to built. With payment for each group of subs being made as follows:
Half in January of each year of Manufacture.
Half in December of each year of manufacture.
A group being composed of 8 subs.
The initial first sub will be fully paid for up front.
Such that in the first group's year of manufacture, $20 billion will paid in January and $20 billion will be paid in December for a total of around $40 billion. (I just rounded the cost up to 5 bill to make the math simpler. You can consider the extra money to be interest).
The Manufacture will take place over a period of 25 years with your currently available facilities. To expedite the process we invite you construct facilities in Whittier owned South Pacific Islands. If you accept the facilities will have a tax free status for up to 10 years.

Sincerely,
Adm. Killgeere
Mauiwowee
04-09-2005, 04:50
Encrypted message:

General Ripper:

The designation "Kraken" has been submitted. Our government would like to place an initial order for 200 of the subs to built. With payment for each group of subs being made as follows:
Half in January of each year of Manufacture.
Half in December of each year of manufacture.
A group being composed of 8 subs.
The initial first sub will be fully paid for up front.
Such that in the first group's year of manufacture, $20 billion will paid in January and $20 billion will be paid in December for a total of around $40 billion. (I just rounded the cost up to 5 bill to make the math simpler. You can consider the extra money to be interest).
The Manufacture will take place over a period of 25 years with your currently available facilities. To expedite the process we invite you construct facilities in Whittier owned South Pacific Islands. If you accept the facilities will have a tax free status for up to 10 years.

Sincerely,
Adm. Killgeere

:: Encrypted Message ::

Adm. Killgeere:

Your terms are acceptable and we "have a deal" A naval yard for testing purposes in Fiji would be useful as would any facilities in the Phillipines you can make available. Commoder Barber will be your contact with W.M.D., Inc. during the construction period (though you are free to contact me at any time). Final specs are posted as an addition to this basic message.
Sincerely,
Gen. Jack T. Ripper

Proposed Specs
Length: 380 ft.
Beam: 40 ft
Submerged Displacement: 9,100 long tons
Draft: 40 ft.
Nuclear Powered Propulsion
Stealth Technology
Speed: 32 knots
Crew: 200
Cargo Capacity:
2 million gallons of oil, gas, or marine fuel
10,000 gallons of potable water
1,000 tons of ordinance
338 tons of provisions
Armament: 12 MK-48 ADCAP torpedoes, four torpedo tubes. Also SLMM (submarine launched mobile mine).
Sonar: BQG-5 Wide Aperture Array, BQS-15 (for mine and ice avoidance).
Operating Depth: 1600 feet
Material: High Yield-80 (HY-80) steel alloy

Finalized Production Specs
Length: 387 ft.
Beam: 41 ft
Submerged Displacement: 9,300 long tons
Draft: 44 ft.
Nuclear Powered Propulsion (see below for details)
Stealth Technology: (see below for details)
Speed: 30 knots (41 knots w/ sub-jet enabled - see below)
Crew: 204
Cargo Capacity:
1.8 million gallons of oil, gas, or marine fuel
9,000 gallons of potable water
1,000 tons of ordinance
301 tons of provisions
Armament: (see details below).
Operating Depth: 1800 feet
Material: High Yield-80 (HY-80) steel alloy

Details
Stealth (sonar sound absorption capabiliy):
Exterior Fiberglass "Foam" coating
Peak Absorption Coifiecient: 1.95
Overall Absorption Coificient: >0.85
Tensile Strength: 3,000 psi
Pore Size: 25 ppi
Propulsion
Dual rendundant nuclear reactor system
W.M.D., Inc. sub jet propulsion capability (sub jet propulsion uses the equivalent of a jet fighter's turbo-fan to provide propulsion. However, the cavitation effect of the engine is significant and easily detected by sonar. The speed at which a sub moves with the sub jet enabled is great though. Sub jet engines should be engaged only for purposes of high speed escape or travel. Use of the sub jet engine in combat situations will all but assure enemy targeting of a sub's location).
Armaments & Defensive measures
Four 660-mm torpedo tubes
50 Tomahawk cruise missiles or
50 Harpoon antiship missiles or
50 Mark 48 ADCAP torpedoes or
35 Mark 69 ADCAP torpedeos or
up to 100 mines
Further Systems
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7198/ssubsystems6br.jpg
Mauiwowee
04-09-2005, 06:12
::: Encrypted :::

TO: TG6R
FROM: W.M.D., Inc.
RE: UAV system's development
DATE: Today

Sirs:
We are more than willing to work on the development of new UAV systems with you.
/s/ JTR
The Great Sixth Reich
04-09-2005, 23:45
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Lord Vineyard II Dead

Body Oxygen Deprieved And Crammed Into A Wooden Box And Covered With Dirt

Reich News Network-(BERLIN): Word has escaped that Lord Vineyard the Second is indeed dead, after his two year vacation. His body was placed in a wooden box and covered with dirt, deprived of oxygen. His brain cells are now formally dead, and organs mutilated. A General Oroslav has attempted a Putsch, shooting several officals of a governing council in Zagreb and a command outpost in Saudi Arabia. Their bodies have been preserved by the German cryonics facility, along with General Komesar of Vineyard, who "died" in a plane crash in Iran. Otto von Hienkel Rommel, in one of his rare public speeches, declared the TG6R will not recognize any rule by Oroslav. Instead, he announced that an investigation is underway to charge Oroslav with criminal offenses, as well as an investigation to deterimine the true heir to the Vineyardian throne.
The Great Sixth Reich
05-09-2005, 01:14
::: Encrypted :::

TO: TG6R
FROM: W.M.D., Inc.
RE: UAV system's development
DATE: Today

Sirs:
We are more than willing to work on the development of new UAV systems with you.
/s/ JTR
Encrypted message to Mauiwowee:

Okay. What we want is the stealthest submarine possible. Almost impossible to detech above (with artifical mist to help achieve that) and underwater (with more emphasis on stealth in this phase). The only componts needed are a regenerable power source (such as nuclear) and a retractable/consealable landing platform to launch and land He-76 UAVs (10,000 pounds each), in addition to the obivous submarine ability to launch torpedos. Missile launching platforms are also a plus, if possible. This is also a top-secret project, one that we arn't even going to tell Vineyard of yet (we don't trust Oroslav or whatever the heck his name is). So, we request to purchase exclusive rights when the project is done.
Whittier--
05-09-2005, 01:38
5 Marks
Reich News



Lord Vineyard II Dead

Organs Mutilated; Remains Stuffed Into Wood Box And Covered With Dirt

Reich News Network-(BERLIN): Word has escaped that Lord Vineyard the Second is indeed dead, after his two year vacation. His body was placed in a wooden box and covered with dirt, deprived of oxygen. His brain cells are now formally dead, and organs mutilated.
ooc: ???? :confused:
The Great Sixth Reich
05-09-2005, 03:28
ooc: ???? :confused:

OOC: That's my nation's main newspaper, based in Bayern. They heard that Oroslav took control of Vineyard, and that Lord Vineyard II is dead from Moron Vineyard, who traveled to Croatia to meet with Lord Vineyard II. ;)
Mauiwowee
05-09-2005, 05:01
Encrypted message to Mauiwowee:

Okay. What we want is the stealthest submarine possible. Almost impossible to detech above (with artifical mist to help achieve that) and underwater (with more emphasis on stealth in this phase). The only componts needed are a regenerable power source (such as nuclear) and a retractable/consealable landing platform to launch and land He-76 UAVs (10,000 pounds each), in addition to the obivous submarine ability to launch torpedos. Missile launching platforms are also a plus, if possible. This is also a top-secret project, one that we arn't even going to tell Vineyard of yet (we don't trust Oroslav or whatever the heck his name is). So, we request to purchase exclusive rights when the project is done.

:: Encrypted to TG6R ::
What size landing strip (length and width) do you need for the HE-76 UAV's? and how many per ship do you want to carry? Remember, the bigger the ship, the harder to make stealthy.
Mauiwowee
05-09-2005, 05:08
OOC: I just had to do the following - please forgive and note this is not a true Earth V post.

IC: (sort of, but not for Mauiwowee)


LORD VINEYARD DIES

Munchkin Land News Bureau:

Ding dong, Lord Vineyard's dead,
The wicked, Vineyard Lord is dead,
Ding Dong, the wicked Vineyard's dead!
The Great Sixth Reich
05-09-2005, 05:19
:: Encrypted to TG6R ::
What size landing strip (length and width) do you need for the HE-76 UAV's? and how many per ship do you want to carry? Remember, the bigger the ship, the harder to make stealthy.
Encrypted Message to Mauiwowee:

Our current expectations are that the Unterseeboot (OOC: :)) can carry up to thirty He-76 UAVs. We currently are dropping the idea of missile or torpedo launching on the U-Boot. Just the He-76s need to be carried. The landing strip would have to be around fifty feet wide by one-hundred feet long (we are considering using a kevlar-net to catch the UAVs so they can land in that short of a distance).
Whittier--
05-09-2005, 06:16
New Logistics Ship:

The WLS Leviathon

Power Plant: Two boilers (600 PSI), two geared steam turbines,
two shafts, 70,000 shaft horsepower
LHD-8 General Electric [GE] "LM 2500 plus" gas turbine engines

Length: 550 ft

Waterline Length: 500 ft

Extreme Beam: 75 ft
Waterline Beam: 75 ft

Draft:
Maximum Navigational Draft: 30 ft
Draft Limit: 32 ft

Displacement:
Light Displacement: 9050 tons
Full Displacement: 15489 tons
Dead Weight: 6439 tons

Cargo: Cargo Hold: 50,000 cu.ft./5,000 Tons of Munitions

Speed: 15 knots (max is 20 knots)

Crew: 350
The Great Sixth Reich
05-09-2005, 18:59
LHD-8 General Electric [GE] "LM 2500 plus" gas turbine engines.

Nice doing business with you. ;)
Whittier--
05-09-2005, 21:24
Nice doing business with you. ;)
Forgot that you owned GE. I took it off the Wasp.
The Great Sixth Reich
05-09-2005, 23:13
Forgot that you owned GE. I took it off the Wasp.
It doesn't mean you can't buy them... It just means you buy them from me. :p
Whittier--
05-09-2005, 23:21
It doesn't mean you can't buy them... It just means you buy them from me. :p
That's fine. We will be ordering 5 thousand more such engines.
The Great Sixth Reich
06-09-2005, 03:45
That's fine. We will be ordering 5 thousand more such engines.
Danke.

:)
Mauiwowee
06-09-2005, 05:13
Mauiwowee revealed the long anticipated new stealth strike fighter today:

Class: Stealth Fighter (2 variants - Navy/Airforce)
Model Name: Wraith
Non-Variable Base Model Parameters:
Length: 51 ft.
Wingspan:36 ft.
Height: 17 ft., 7 in.
Powerplant: 2 W.M.D., Inc. ST-3900FJ engines producing 39,000 lbs. of thrust each
Top Speed: Mach 2.6 (unladen) - Mach 2.4 at max take off weight
Crew: 1
Max. Lift-off Weight: 51,000 lbs.
G-Force Cababilities: 8.75 g's
Climb Rate: 24,000 ft/min
Potentially variable Base Model Parameters
Base Model Max Range: 1,000 miles w/o drop tanks (up to 2,400 w/ drop tanks)
Base Model Crew: 1
Base Model Ceiling: 54,000 ft.
Base Model Empty Weight: 25,700 lbs
Base Model External Hard Points: none/two: use with ext. drop tanks or up to 4 AAM missiles each (note decreased stealth capabilities when in use)
Base Model Interior Bays: 3 (Various payload configurations available - typical is 6 AAM missiles in 2 bays and 2 JDAM's in the 3rd)
Base Model Construction: Samuri Folded, "20 sided die," Ceramic Titanium alloy w/ advanced poly-silicate RAM coating
VTOL: Yes/No
Carrier Capable: Yes/No
Thrust Vectoring: full 360 degrees at 45 degrees/20 sec.
Payload: 19,000 lbs
25mm vulcan cannon (2)
Special Notes re: design/stealth abilities: Advanced poly-silicate RAM (Radar Absorbant Material) coating on entire plane; Plasma Stealth technology w/ Plasma "cloud" coverage for trailing edge of winglet tips and tail fin tips, triangulated openings and re-entrant designs, Liquid nitrogen and ambient air cooling for exhaust gases; "self-shading, gold film, bullet proof, cockpit glass, Matte heavy gray and black coloring.
Standard Mauiwowee SAL9500AI computer systems, HUD, targeted EMP generator, etc. are also in use on this craft.
The Wraith
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/9135/attackview5mo.jpg
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/9163/topbottomviews5tw.jpg
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/3949/forwardrearview0dy.jpg

Cost: $109 million each.
Whittier--
06-09-2005, 05:27
New Logistics Ship:

The WLS Leviathon

Power Plant: Two boilers (600 PSI), two geared steam turbines,
two shafts, 70,000 shaft horsepower
LHD-8 General Electric [GE] "LM 2500 plus" gas turbine engines

Length: 550 ft

Waterline Length: 500 ft

Extreme Beam: 75 ft
Waterline Beam: 75 ft

Draft:
Maximum Navigational Draft: 30 ft
Draft Limit: 32 ft

Displacement:
Light Displacement: 9050 tons
Full Displacement: 15489 tons
Dead Weight: 6439 tons

Cargo: Cargo Hold: 50,000 cu.ft./5,000 Tons of Munitions

Speed: 15 knots (max is 20 knots)

Crew: 350


Cost is 250 million dollars.
Mauiwowee
06-09-2005, 06:02
OOC: Obviously, I would think, the following is for information only. NO ONE can act on it since the info. is part of a private meeting with King Rox and military chief of staff, General Jack T. Ripper.
******************************************************

"General Ripper, I know you've been tied up with W.M.D., Inc. and the "re-inventing" the military initiative, but I need a summary report on the state of our ongoing military actions." said king Rox.

"Yes sire, in Mindanao things are under complete control. The infrastructure is being rebuilt at an incredible rate - good idea to bomb them into the stone age and then hire them to rebuild from scratch - unemployment is at less than 2% island wide since the goverment works rebuilding projects have begun. Stable electrical supply and clean water are the biggest issues now. We have handed out over 200,000 portable generators to the civilian population and the water issue is coming to terms. A provisional state government is in place, pending drafting and ratification of the new state constitution in the next year or so. In other words, our piece of the Phillipines is ok. Nothing to worry about. An appearance there by your majesty would probably be nice in the next month or two - just the standard photo-op, inspection tour is all that is needed - a moral booster so to speak.
In Venezeula, the new Stinger aircraft are proving their worth in taking out rebel forces in the jungles and mountains. We've got 40 of them deployed and more are headed in. The new Strykers are also doing their job very well too. We've contained and have control over about 80% of the countryside - with Carracas well under our thumb - nothing to worry about there, just give it a little more time."

"How many Strykers are in Venezuela?" asked the king.

"I'm not sure your highness, but I would guestimate the number at around 25 or so." replied General Ripper.

"OK, how do we stand on the annexation of the new islands under the "Narcosis Doctrine?" said the king.

"So far, so good" replied General Ripper "We have visited and established an unopposed presence and control over the Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Cook Islands, Heard Island and McDonald Islands, Izu Archipelago, Jarvis Island, Johnston Atoll and Kingman Reef - However, I will admit, these were the easy places - total combined population of all of them was less than 400 people. The sight of one of the Black Queen carriers was all it took for most of them to surrender without a fight. The hard places are coming up - Guam in particular might be a little rough."

"OK, good, now, what does intel give us on the announced death of Lord Vineyard?"

"It appears the report is correct Rox" said General Ripper in a familiar tone that few could get away with in their conversations with the king. "Who is in control there now is not clear - we have reports that some general has carried out a coup against a ruling tribunal established by the former Lord Vineyard, but we don't know for sure."

"Well find out" barked the king - we recently cut a treaty with Vineyard, I understand there is no indication of any problem with the treaty, but we need to figure out if there might be trouble down the line."

"Yes sire, will do - it's a top priority already, but I'll ensure it move to number 1 if it hasn't already."

"Good!" said king Rox. "one last thing General, I need you to begin assembly of a fleet of ships, including at least 2 full carrier groups and mobilize another 100,000 troops, probably from S.E. China and Australia proper, though report back to me when you've determined the final numbers for whatever area we can spare - Get them ready for an invasion - oh, hell, I forgot, grab the boys we don't need in Mindanao anymore and get them ready to start again somewhere else."

"uuumm, ok Rox - that's not a problem. But I need to know what you're thinking of here."

"How does Sri Lanka sound?" asked the king - a small smile playing on the corners of his mouth.
Vineyard
06-09-2005, 18:21
::We got incmming!!::
::Scetors 038848::
::Moving to intercept::
::Blue flight, we got incomming at Guard post 2! Take them out!::
::Roger that!::
::Red 1, you have bogies on your tail!!::
::Holy hell!::
::FUCK, im hit!::
::Red one, respond!!::
::This is Red 2, Red one went down, repeat, he went down. No sign or wreckage.::
:Fuck::

If one was to subtract the explosions, the gun fire from the ground, and the screaming of planes in the air; it would be a normal, clear, and butiful Africain day. However, that morning the calm ended when thousands of enemy fighters and bombers appeared over the Northern most Zambian base. Around 300 fighters were launched to intercept the attack, and they were doing a brilliant job at it.


-Gaborone-
"How was your trip my lord?"
"Oraslav tried to kill me. He found out that I knew."
"Oh dear."
"What about the populace? I saw the headlines. it has been revealed."
"They are in a bit of an uproar. They know not that you lead them."
"Set up a press meeting. Live. I wish to address the public."
"Yes sir. Also, Apparently Adm. Herchuck is not reconizing either you or oraslav as leaders of Vineyard. He has retruned to Asencion, and has apparently began to run out of logistical supplies for his troops. He will be forced to act soon."
"Very good."

-2 hours later-
General Bantu itched in his suit and tie 'buisness' outfit. He almoast always wore a lose shabby military garb that he had grown accustomed to. He knew what he was about to say and do, but he didn't like it. There would be a backlash as to why he kept it secret so long. He would then have to explain the shadow council, and General Oraslav's role in...
"You're on General in 5"
Oh lord guide me through this.
"4"
I never wanted a command...
"3"
why the hell me?
"2"
Here goes nothing.
"1"
The Great Sixth Reich
06-09-2005, 18:31
OOC: Vineyard, I'd hate to say this again, but: GET ON SKYPE!!! It's important!

Also, why can't your aircraft identify other aircraft as hostile if they are behind them and shooting at them?
The Great Sixth Reich
06-09-2005, 18:46
Secret IC:

Ludo was excited: It was time to actually get involved in a war. The 10,000 He-43s (one-third of the entire hypersonic fleet) based in Northern Iraq had been launched, and were flying at 70,000 feet at Mach 20 (a properly shaped plane with scramjet engines with a strengthed titanium airframe can do that), well above the altitude and speed for any intercepting aircraft. Their mission: To shoot down Oroslav if he ever got on a plane or helicopter. They were remotely controlled aircraft with computer assistance, so G-forces were not a problem. However, they were extremely expensive (easily the most expensive plane in the Luftwaffe), so they were to get out as soon as the missiles were launched.

OCC: Yea, Oroslav is annoying me, so I thought it would be a good idea to kill him while he's still vulnerable, since the Croatian Air Force really isn't exactly on his side yet. :)