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Lame Bums
09-11-2005, 02:59
To: Kreigzimmer Board

We would like to acquire the production rights to the Elusive class Battleship, and are willing to pay the cost of fifty billion USD's for the blueprint of said design.
HailandKill
09-11-2005, 03:34
From: The Joint Chiefs of Staff
To: Kriegzimmer Corporation

We wish to purchase production rights for the Cougar MBT. Thank you.

[Signed]Various Members
The Macabees
09-11-2005, 17:23
[OoC: Spizania, I could design it; I wold be perfectly capable to do so, and do so well, but I'm not sure I would be the best choice. Most importantly, I'm slow in working through new designs, and I think someone like Praetonia or Sarzonia would offer you a good product at a much faster pace. With that said, I probably wouldn't put as much research into it as I would if it was my own, and I don't want to present you with a second rate product. So, I really suggest Sarzonia.]


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To: Lame Bums

The production rights for the Elusive class Battleship have been confirmed for fifty billion USD. They will be delivered through our intelligence personnel to our embassy in your country, and from there you can send someone to pick it up; credentials will be checked. Thank you for your continued purchases from Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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[OoC: Hailandkill, they're yours as per agreements [since the 50mm mortar was included], so no need to purchase them.]
Spizania
09-11-2005, 18:16
OOC: Ok, any idea how i should contact him?
IC:
W@W: The Republic of San Marino would like to order 2500 Cougar MBTs ($30 billion) and 5000 BredtSverd MBTs (How much do you charge for modifications?) mounted with the standard San Marino 126mm ETC weapon.

NS: The confederacy of Spizania would like to order 1250 Cougar MBTs (too tired ot work out price), we hope that our order will arrive with the usual expediency and in the usual good condition.
The Macabees
09-11-2005, 18:36
[OoC: On his Portland Iron Works thread; tell him I directed you there to see if he would return the favor in the future. Thanks.]



[b]To: Spizania/San Marino

Your order has been confirmed without hesitation. The order for the BredtSverts [W@W] will arrive within two weeks, and in fact, they will be battle tested tanks from our own ranks, so not only will they lack any production faults, but they will also have the complete modifications put my our own army to make them a tad bit better. Their main guns can be modified for no extra cost to a 126mm. As for the Cougars [both W@W and NS] the order [regardless of the number] will be completed within five to six months. Thank you for yet another purchase.

[OoC: You're not changing the main gun on the Cougar, correct? That's where a lot of its strengths comes from.]
The Macabees
09-11-2005, 18:37
Arca. I Cougar Ausfva. A

Abstract: The Arca I Couger project was born after a long interactive inquiry on the cost effectiveness of the Panzerkampfwaggen IX BredtSvert, and an analyzing of modern combat virtues and the necessity of many of the extraneous sensor equipment not only on the BredtSvert, but on most other tanks exported, or used, around the world. Indeed, most widely used tanks, reknown for their 'strengths' have so many redundencies that eliminate their effectivity when it comes to the amount of money put into them, and that's exactly what the Arca project wanted to avoid. Therefore, the BredtSvert was chopped, upgraded, and turned into the Arca I 'Cougar', and just like how the BredtSvert was designed to cut the fat from the Mutawallis, the Cougar is designed to the slim the BredtSvert, and still forge into a main battle tank that is considerably more powerful, but less expensive, than its predecessor.

Nonetheless, the project itself was more expensive to undertake since it included the testing of several new structural products, including new building materials to make certain parts more effective. The largest, and most contreversial, change was the upgrade of the 120mm electro-thermal chemical [ETC] main gun to a full fledge 140mm ETC with electro-magnetic [EM] rifling, which brought certain problems but where all overtaken given time. The Cougar also offers advances in armor design without increasing relative true width and weight, although the tank is heavier than any of its predecessor, and without actually increasing cost by a significant amount. The greatest advantange given to the tank is the addition of a total of six square centimeters distributed in respect to the crew cabins, giving the crew greater comfort without increasing weight, profile [height], or length/width by a substantial amount.

The tank has been held to be a much better option that most other main battle tanks to date, simply because of its simplicity relative to other main battle tanks, namely the 'eigth generation' [which is more eigth generation in the amout of superflous charactiristics it doesn't need to employ] Sver battle tank, produced and exported by Soviet Bloc, and the M-125A1 produced by The Silver Sky, amongst various others. Still, the clear cut quality of the tanks named are not to be underestimated. The only real difference is the effeciency, the cost, and the fact that the Cougar gives the same, or more, with less. Indeed, the only tank which has been equated to this tank in terms of general quality, in the same financial scale, is the Iron Cheeta II PADSHA main battle tank, produced and exported by Clan Smoke Jaguar, which also has a cheaper price tag than the Cougar, but has lesser rolled homogenous armored values.

In terms of the ideology behind the design the Cougar follows the new mindset of the high command, specialization. Take for example the shortstop system. Why add it to each and every tank when you can equip it on either a single tank, such as a command version, or to a cheap light skinned vehicle, and create an umbrella from a single vehicle, just like it was originally designed to do so, instead of having overlapping shortstop defensive umbrellas. It illustrates the extraneous costs several ultramodern main battle tanks have, and what the Cougar is attempting to 'drive' away from, excuse the pun. But at the same time, the Cougar is designed to be superior to its competition. But, it took a different approach to the goal, and instead of adding more worthless systems it focused on what was immediate necessary and what was essential for the survivability of the tank, and the product shadowed this theory, and to many the Cougar is the epitome of effectiveness without the 'love handles', if you will.

The Ejermacht has ordered the full replacement of their BredtSverts within four years, providing for about eighteen thousand, give or take a few, Ausfva. As [Ausva standing for variant in Dienstadi]. Kriegzimmer has also prepared itself for exportation abroad, which is expected to go by the thousands of units, asking a lot from Kriegzimmer. Consequently, the conglomerate has decided to supply the Empire slower than their other clients, simply because the Ejermacht General Staff has expressed that their needs aren't immediate, especially since the BredtSvert is still a competent design, and still a competitor, to the tanks that the Cougar is trying to exceed. There are spreading rumors, however, that the Ejermacht is looking for fewer units, but with greater tactical and topographical operations in future wars, meaning that more tanks aren't completely necessary, and will save untold amounts of money in the process, however, these rumors have not been confirmed, and as of now they don't have substantial evidence to take as gospel. Nevertheless, the theory is truly interesting and entirely possible, and might not be something that the General Staff is throwing away.

Future exportation nonwithstanding, the Cougar is truly a competitor for the foreign market, and is likely to see wide use throughout international militaries, including the militaries of partners Truitt and Hailandkill who put minor work into the design. The former has decided to incororate a smaller, less powerful version, dubbed the Ausfva. B, while the latter pushed for changes regarding the mortar system, which were taken to heart. The result is amazing.

Armor et Value: The armor is composed of four principle layers, all analyzed and put in order in which it would best serve the tank and the final rolled homogenous value. It was originally claimed that the armor of the Cougar was extremely different from that of the BredtSvert, and that it was also cheaper. Although this statement will be further explained in detail below, it should be said that the most important changes were made for the general effectivity of the armor design, the BredtSvert's armor actually overrated for its description. That's not to claim that the BredtSvert's armor should be considered much less than it was rated at, it just shouldn't be considered prime quality armor, as it was originally advertised as.

On the Cougar, the first layer of armor, just like on the BredtSvert, is a series of Kontackt-5 explosive reactive armour [ERA], providing a theoritical three hundred millimeter rolled homogenous value against kinetic energy [KE] penetrators, and five hundred millimeters versus high explosive anti-tank [HEAT;CE] warheads. However, these values should be taken like a grain of salt, as the concept of ERA actually allows for greater values depending on the angle the penetration is coming from, and simply because of the nature of ERA. Indeed, the penetrator is supposed to be deviated from its trajectory, slowing acceleration, knocking off some parts of its mass, and consequently, using one of the simplest physics formulas of force is equivalent to mass multiplied by acceleration, the ultimate conclusion is a penetrator hitting with substantially lesser force that it was originally designed to do so.

Nonetheless, modern armour piercing fin stabalized discaring sabots [APFSDS] rounds have been sold to be able to penetrate these latest levels of ERA, and so consequently, the secondary layer is made up of a series of blocks of non-explosive reactive armor, or NxRA, providing for a further one hundred and fifty millimeters versus KE and some six hundred millimeters versus CE. This should provide not only greater values, but the added mass, without the explosives, should also put the mass of the ERA, making the total armor values of both ERA and NxRA layers together at around five hundred millimeters versus KE and one thousand two hundred [1200] millimeters versus CE. To avoid disastrous consequences with the movement of NxRA and the dislodging of ERA blocks in between the two layers there is a very slight sliver of Nitronic allowing the bottom layer to wiggle around with effecting the top layer.

This nonwithstanding, a third layer was added, using brand new technology referred to as Collapsible Armored Plating [COCEP]. The idea was designed to supplement the ERA and NxRA and it would most likely not have the same values if it was to be used with a different combination or even alone. The theory is that the now slowed down penetrator would be faced by plates of high density ceramic platings, that were constructed with relatively high mass, and this would not only further slow down the penetrator, but it would most likely stop it. In addition, the collapsing plating would also serve as an entrapment for the shell, hitting it along the sides as it collapsed and thus forcing it to expend more energy, and thus heightening the chances to stop the penetrator altogether. COCEP has not been battle tested in this particular case, but similar ideas have throughout other countries and other main battle tank designs.

The fourth and final layer is a standard layer of chobham composite armor, including depleted uranium strands weaved around a matrix to add armored strength, and the enlargement of the plating, has given this layer higher ratings that the chobham used by both the Challenger II and the Abrams M1A2 main battle tanks, without radical changes in the design of the armor itself; only changes that are obviously enhancing to serve the means of the armor, which would be to increase mass and density, and thus resistivity in terms of the electromagnetic force offered to counteract the force of the penetrator, without increasing the size of the plate.

The total and final values of the four layers of armor for the Cougar sit at two thousand two hundred and fifty millimeters [2250mm] of rolled homogenous value at the strongest point against KE penetration and two thousand nine hundred millimeters [2900mm] against CE penetration at , of course, sixty degrees, offering the Cougar 'not to be messed with' values, but aren't exactly as expensive as armored complexes offered on main battle tanks such as the Phalanx or the Svez. However, unfortunately, maintenance costs have been rated to be similar to other main battle tank designs.

Main Armament: The Cougar is upgunned from the BredtSvert, displaying a full fledge 140mm ETC gun with EM rifling, giving it enough power to slap a APFSDS round into the toughest armor available. The entire gun is powered by an independent battery unit, powered by the Q.271.A56, offering 900 volts using a regenerative coil for recharging. With original testing putting power output of the battery powering a 120mm ETC at 600 volts it was felt that the 900 volt battery was more than enough to power the upgunned Cougar, and the engineers turned out to be correct with their stipulations. The EM rifling of the gun caused the problem that the multiple turns of the shell within the muzzle actually prejudiced the shell and the resulting velocity and acceleration, causing it to have a smaller force at the point of impact, and so the coils of the gun were widened to allow the lengthened shell to have more space to turn, and less turns, solving the problem. The 140mm has a length of forty calibres, giving it the full designation of a 140mm L/40 main gun, giving it a length of four and eight tenths of a meter, giving it quite the powerful punch. To make sure that the gun doesn't buckle after repeated use the tank does employ a small, almost unseen support structure at the very beginning of the gun, jutting out of the turret of the tank. The gun is enshrouded with a thermal coat, although heat expenditure is actually less than what many expect due to reasons described below.

The standard ammuntion type is a 7.3 kilogram armor piercing fin stabalized discarding sabot, crafted out of depleted uranium to offer a much more dense material as opposed to lead and tungsten. The lighter ammunition was chosen over the heavier ammunition over principals of the taxing of the autoloader, or human loader, depending on variants of the tank, and the fact that a heavier round offers less acceleration. The standard acceleration value for the main gun of the Cougar is Mach 6, translating to 2041 meters per second; it is to say, the round would hit with a force of 14,899 Newtons. A heavier round would exit the chamber at an acceleration of around Mach 4.5, and let's use a mass value of 9 kilograms. The total force in this case would be 13,779 Newtons. The difference is substantial. So, the lighter round has a better penetration value than the heavier round, despite the fact that it has less mass. The optimal range of the round is under one thousand meters, although the gun and round has a maximum range exceeding a theoritical six thousand meters, although an accurate hit at that range is highly unlikely.

The gun can also fire a host of other rounds, including specially designed HEAT and HE rounds, both made to fit the larger barrel of the gun. The gun can also expel anti-tank guided munitions, although the readily built in autoloader is not designed to be able to load said munitions, although again, it would be technically possible.

To optimize the potential of the gun, making sure there is the least energy loss due to friction and subsequent heat production, all electrical currents, including the EM rifling and electrical jolt to form the plasma that charges the chemical propellant of the ETC gun, are run through a titanium superconducter. The technology was recently designed for naval applications and expected to make its debut on the American DDX.

The autoloader also adresses several issues that pertain to older autoloader designs, and is built isolated from the fighting compartment to make it less suceptible to damage, and vice versa if you will. The single ramming movement of the loader also averts high maintenance and complex trajectory operations, while the autoloader itself moves away from the carousel idea and into the rifle clip idea introduced by the Russian Black Eagle. It is to say, the autoloader is expendable after the set amount of roudns of the tank are expended the autoloader is taken out through relatively fast and simple maintenance efforts and a new one is put in. The old autoloader is returned and recycles for future efforts. The entire change would take less than an hour, and actually decreases reloading time for tanks, much like it did on rifles. It's also not necessarilly more expensive, as opposed to the carousel which would actually exceed costs due to need for high maintenance efforts.This autoloader, with the larger tank, has a capacity of thirty 140mm rounds, with a cycle time of four seconds.

The weight of the gun on the turret and subsequent velocities of gyration for the turret are supplemented by electromagnetic ball bearings allowing the turret to metaphorically 'sit on air', giving it a faster velocity of gyration within the context of the weight of the gun itself, compensating for what would have otherwise been a slower reaction time, offsetting the increase in calibre and diametter of the muzzle. The design problem was not actually solved by Macabee engineers, and rather by a subsequent inquiry by Scandinavian States.

Secondary Armament: In terms of secondary armament the Cougar MBT includes three 7.92mm machineguns. The three machineguns are offered for the tank commander, driver and electronics manager, and as opposed to newer main battle tank models actually revert to the older system employed by German panzers. It is to say, the gun, although having limited field of fire, is controlled through a lever system which seeps into the crew compartment for easy handling by the respective user of the guns. Nonetheless, with the inclusion of three guns field of fire can't be used in the same context as most angles are covered by the three guns, although admittently there are a few blindspots, although this shouldn't be a major issue regardless due to the nature of modern armored combat.

The Arca I also has a 50mm mortar carrying a small amount of rounds destined as smoke generators, although few countries have expressed their plans to use it as further fire suppressants, regardless of arguments put up by the Ejermacht. Nonetheless, the principal motivation for the mortar is to create smoke screens to give tactical advantage in certain enviroments, and similar systems have been used quite successfully on the Merkava IV main battle tank, currently used by Israel.

Finally, the Arca I Cougar utilizes a 7.92mm mini-CIWS top gun, using an extremely short range multi-pulse lidar apperatus as a range finder, and the tank's general multiband millimeter radar, to track incoming projectiles, and in specific, incoming losats and HEAT warheads. The accuracy cannot be compared to the much larger CIWS on a ship, but the effect is easily observable with less tank losses over time on an infantry prominent battlefield. Indeed, out of all the systems dropped this was received special attention, and in the end it was decided to keep it. The gun fires specifically armor piercing kinetic penetrators to have the strength to either destroy or skew the trajectory of an incoming rocket.

Fire and Control System: The Arca I uses an updated version of Brass, the FCS system introduced with the BredtSvert years ago. Although the entire process takes only milliseconds worth of time, it can be broken up into several distinct levels of operation. First, the FCS systems gathers all low resolution imagery, infra-red imagery, high resolution imagery and infra-red imagery, radar information and sensor information. Using all of this the FCS system can detect vehicle position, orientation and range, as well as provide accurate ballistic solutions, and preform threat solutions with fast countermeasure expenditure. This information is displayed to the crew, communicated with tanks in the same information network, and translated into the tank armament, providing the Cougar with one of the best fire and control systems currently do date. In fact, there is information to back up the claim, and proof that the upgraded Brass is one of a kind.

For high and low resolution imagery the tank is equipped with two seperate digital cameras, feeding raw data to avoid pixel compression. Although there is room for mistakes from the feed and subsequent algorithms, the feature is on other designs and well liked, regardless of the criticism given.

The entire system has been dubbed 'Cornerstone', and as advertised, Cornerstone has the ability to track up to fifteen targets and deliver accurate information on said targets to the crew. Furthermore, with Conernstone the gun would be able to fire on the move, adding a distinct advantage, as it keeps the tank almost constantly moving during combat operations.

Sensor Equipment: The Cougar has an infra-red range finder, as do most tanks, as well as two individual multi-frequency lidar transmitters, one for the CIWS and one for the FCS itself, each placed in respective areas of the tank in accordance to their job. The multiband lidar avoids jamming, which is probable on the range finder, and offers an alternate to the prior sensor system. There's also a single ladar which offers a high concentration alternative to the lidar, although is also jammable, although current main battle tank designs don't offer jamming equipment for the ladar transmitter. All three individual arrays use the second generation gaussian transmitter with the electrophonotic rays, which has always been the distinct advantage of Macabee lidar and ladar transmitters on all of their equipment designs.

Radar sensors include a multiband millimeter radar array, offering short range radio wave coverage of the battlefield and an additional defensive and offensive system for the Cougar, although the Cougar is not outfitted with the sheer range of radars that other tanks are, simply becasue it wasn't felt that these tanks were necessary, and indeed, after analyzation it's found that most of these systems were added on other tanks as 'icing on the cake' if you will, to sell more units, which is not the primary goal of the Arca I project.

The tanks also has an excellent nuclear, biological and chemical defensive suit, enclosing all parts of the crew compartment. As a supplement it also has rudimentary protection against electromagnetic pulse [EMP] weapons, as EMP weapons have risen to their zenith for usage in conventional combat applications.

Power Plant: The engine of the tank is a two thousand brake horsepower quasiturbine design. Bhp indicates the horsepower left after the engine is revved, since the engine looses horsepower in the process. There were a host of problems concerning the quasiturbine, including the fact that the engine was due to expand and contract, although the principal material of construction for prior quasiturbines were iron alloys which are prone to expansion and contraction due to creep and heat. In order to alleviate the problem the Cougar's engine, or the Quarbine.271.A56, is built out of a nickel-based superalloy, with somewhat high Chromium concentrations. The exact superalloy is referred to as CMSX-6, offering a lighter alternative to the older CMSX-4, and according to thermomechanical fatigue [TMF] testing, including the research on fatigue charactiristics in anisothermal and isothermal enviroments, the CMSX-6 is superior to most other monocrystalline nickel based superalloys in the market.

However, as underscored by the primary thesis of the argument for this engine, the problem wasn't truly the fatigue of the engine, it was thermal expansion, and for that the project engineers had to look into past developments of low thermal expansion resistance superalloys, and for that the team ripped a page from Space Union's book, finally applying an Inconel superalloy, released by Inco Alloys International, Incorporation. The final decision rested with a secondary, and inferior, layer of Inconel 783, covering the interior of the CMSX-6 frame of the Q.271.A56. Depending on the concentrations of Nickel the engine has been rated to be able to exceed heat resistance pas 649 degrees celcius, while there is small fatigue and crack effects when passing 700 degrees celcius. However, under optimum concentrations Inconel 783 has been tested to resist temperatures of up to 1121 degrees celcius.

All engine junctions and extraneous parts, with the quasiturbine lacks a lot of, are composed of ceramic, classified as a first rate alternative to the metalloid superalloy. The primary job description of the ceramic is to provide effective design solutions for a robust axial junction part to the engine, allowing for a greater lifespan of the engine, decreasing maintenance costs almost immediately, something that is always prime within the minds of the engineers who design main battle tanks. Because of the make-up which this engine incorporates the Q.271.A56 is one of the least advance, but most effecient, tank engine designs currently in use internationally, and the tank engine itself has been offered for sale, although exact price specifications have not been released to the general public.

In order to take full advantage of the brake horsepower, and theoritically even increase it, the engine is connected to the rest of the tank through an electromagnetic drive train, which although the information is relatively little, prior testing had rated it as one of the best drivetrain designs for modern main battle tanks. The drivetrain's transmission follows suit with most of the transmissions introduced by the Kriegzimmer conglomerate, amounting to a two stick transmission system, offering five groups and eight gears for each group, offering a total of forty gears, which is almost triple to the amount of gears offered on your standard John Deer tractor, which gives the Cougar a very good weight to gear ratio. The transmission is entirely conventional, allowing for relative simplicity in the design and for easier and faster maintenance on the run.

Lastly, the tank's suspension is entirely hydropneumatic, a system first exported by Citroen, a French automobile company. The suspension is more compact, further comfort for the crew, no changes in the handling with decreases or increases in pure mass, and most importantly, the system doesn't seem to suffer anymore on poor roads, as opposed to driving on good road conditions, although the latter is always preffered. Just as important, the suspension is easily changed in terms of the tension of the system, even during combat operations, making it more accessible for the crew, and less time consuming.

[b]Crew Compartment: The crew compartment's major advantage is the added comfort. In theory the advantage of Western tanks over Soviet tanks was the fact that the crew had more space to operate in, raising crew comfort, increasing moral, thus giving better operational output, which took notice when tanks of both sides fought over the deserts of Israel and the Sinai Peninsula over the span of five wars. The major reason for the increased crew compartment and the largest change was the addition of six square centimeters in the crew compartment, and the fact that the copula of the tank expands outwards, without necessarilly increasing the profile of the tank. In fact, the Cougar has been rated as one of the most preferred tanks to drive by international crews.

Although the Golden Throne doesn't like to admit it, the crew cabins also include internal cooling systems for the crew, to avoid heat complexes that tank crew members may have at any given point. This does add to the complexity of the crew cabin but it's not significant in any respect, and is rather preferred. The crew has always been first for the military, and the machine second.

The commander has a full range of liquid matrix display screens that are fully polychromatic stored in slightly armored inlets within strategical areas of the tank that offer the commander a full three hundred degree view of the battlefield. There is also a polychromatic display screen array for the driver but these focus on strategic areas for driving, including blind spots of the tank. Nonetheless, the feed is the same from some of the cameras used by the commander. The camera system has been used before on Israeli tanks and the strength of the camera system seems to become clear in urban combat, or tight combat, situations, but against the system would have to be tested under actual combat and it may be that later versions of the Arca I Cougar will not have the same camera system, opting for something cheaper.

Specifications:
Main Armament: 140mm L/40 ETC w/ EM rifling [hitting power of a 180mm gun] [powered by a 900v battery w/ regenitive coil]
Secondary: 3x 7.92mm MG, 1x 50mm mortar, 1x 5.56mm mini-CIWS
[color=red]Powerplant: 2000 bhp quasiturbine
Length: 9.2 meters
Length [with gun]: 14.8 meters
Width: 3.9 meters
Height: 2.7 meters
Weight: 87 tons
Armor:
1. Kactus-5 ERA [300mm vs. KE; 500mm vs. CE]
2. COCEP (Collapsible Ceramic Plating) [400mm vs. KE; 300mm vs. CE]
3. NxRA [150mm vs KE; 600mm vs CE]
4. Chobham [1200mm vs. KE; 1,500mm vs. CE]
Total: 2250mm RHA vs. KE and 2900mm RHA vs. CE]
Maximum Velocity: 40 km/h
Transmission: 5 Groups; 8 Gears = 50 Gears
Braking: Dual brake, by wire
Sensors:
Cornerstone FCS - dual axis, up to 15 targest, fire on the move, et cetera
IR Rangefinder
LIDAR Rangefinder
Millimetric Multiband Radar [r. 200 meters]
Cost: 12 Million
Spizania
09-11-2005, 18:39
OOC: No im not, just the BredtSwerds, if the cougars gun is really that powerful, il tolerate teh logistical problems.
Lame Bums
10-11-2005, 01:11
To: Kreigzimmer Board

In continuing with the modernization of our naval forces, and for ease of as-needed production, we request the production rights to the Argentine class Galleon, the Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier, and the Tenerife class SSH. We realize that these are top-notch designs, and are willing to pay upwards of six hundred billion USD's for said blueprints.


[OOC: I know, I'm being fucking lazy, but like I said on AIM, my laziness trumps all. :D ]
The Macabees
10-11-2005, 03:47
To: Lame Bums

Welcome back to Kriegzimmer. Your order has been confirmed without hesitation, once again, and the plans will be sent to our embassy by aircraft, where they can be picked up by your personnel. Thank you for your continued business.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Macabees
11-11-2005, 01:45
Kriegzimmer Allows It's Clientel to Decide!

You heard correctly, Kriegzimmer is allowing its client based and even prospective customers to set the pace and the priority for future designs of Kriegzimmer. With the release of the Arca. I Kriegzimmer has been loaded with new designs any all aspects of vehicles, munitions and submunitions, and it has decided to release a complete list of future designs and designations. The customers can design what they want to see first.

[size=1][OOC: Unofficially, this is also for me to keep track of what I need to design.]

GUH 212.A-C Air to Surface Missiles [JASSM, JASSM-ER and nuclear]
RIC.617.A-C JDAM [JDAM, Nuclear, larger JDAM]
CRU.11.A-D Cruise Missiles [Supersonic, Hypersonic, Supersonic Nuclear, Long Range]
Decurion SLBM
Centurion ICBM
TIR.96.37;155;57;75 CAPMES round
TIR.21.155 SADARM artillery round
TIR.76.155 DPICM artillery round
TIR.33.155 TCR artillery round
TIR.217.155 HD round
TIR.11.155 HE round
TIR.17.155 RAAM round
TIR.81.155 ADAM round
Arca. II Puma Light Battle Tank
Arca. III Jackal Ultra Heavy Battle Tank
Arica. I Concordat APC
W.1 Reconnaissance Vehicle - Ausfva. B [artillery command], Ausfva. C [80mm mortar], Ausfva. D [smoke generator]
Av.36 MADCAP Torpedo 'Tiburon'
Av.75 SuCAP Torpedo 'Hammerhead'
Av. 21 Lightweight Torpedo 'Catfish'
ASub.362.A Cain Anti-Shipping Complex [improved Principe]
GLI-49 Kondor Interceptor
B-71 Gull AWACS
M190.A LRMMRLS
HO37.A 155mm SP Howitzer
Z99.A 105mm Howitzer
Z99.B 105mm Light Airborne Howitzer
Z106. A 155mm Heavy Field Gun
Z14.A 105mm Towed Anti-tank Gun

This isn't even half of it.
Spizania
11-11-2005, 19:46
OOC: Is that in order of priority? Cause id rather have new ships and aircraft above missiles and tanks, teh ordanance and ground vehicles you sell now are doing me fine.
McKagan
11-11-2005, 22:38
OOC: ^ Really. Macabee built missiles, tanks, artillery, and other hardware is so far ahead of what everyone else needs, other priority updates could be considered first.
Pushka
11-11-2005, 23:02
OOC: I guess that the only thing i really need from you after looking on that list is the Z99.B 105mm Light Airborne Howitzer. That has a nice sound to it plus might be useful for both my Rail-Road and Airborne troops. Also as i said in my TG if you want to stick a nuclear fusion reactor somethere stick it on a submarine and not on a tank. Would you like to joint-develop a submarine with me as a showcase for the practical use of fusion reactores in modern day military technology?
The Macabees
11-11-2005, 23:36
[OOC: Hehe, Pushka, this is a Bolo-killer; not your normal MBT. This thing is simply huge and wanky, and the only one able to have its love is me. :p I have to still stamp out some things, like the crew compartments and sensor systems, but here's what's up so far: http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=180

Ah, so well, ships it is. I already designed the artillery shells, so it's too late for that. But I'll get my long awaited destroyer up and the howitzers up next.]
The Macabees
12-11-2005, 00:50
Standard Ejermacht Artillery Rounds

TIR.11.155 HE Round
Description: The TIR.11.155 High Explosive shell is merely an empty casting full of Octagen using a small brazen fuse, although there have been claims that the Ejermacht has issued the same round without the fuze, dispersing it randomly within stockpiles of the round; the idea is to defeat shortstop equipped ordnance. The round itself is rocket assisted, and out of the muzzle of the Corbulo has an extremely amazing range.
Range: 80kms [standard]; 30kms [howitzer]; 100kms [Corbulo]
Velocity: Mach 4-6
Warhead: High Explosive
Guidance: Inertial and GPS
Replacement Cost: 7,000 USD
Production Rights Cost: 25 Million USD



TIR.76.155 ER DPICM Round
Description: The TIR.76 Extended Range Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munition is the long range dispenser artillery round of the Ejermacht, able to carry up to seventy-two small anti-armor/personnel grenade submunitions. The round is capable of successfully engaging unarmored vehicles, soft skinned vehicles and personnel, at extremely long ranges, which amount to some forty kilometers for a howitzer and around eighty kilometers to one hundred kilometers for the advance field artillery system Corbulo. The round is designed with GPS and inertial guidance, and's burst radius has been reduced to ten meters. The round has also been improved upon the XM982 design, incorporated rocket assistance. The anti-armour bomblets can effectively penetrate up to 130mm worth of armour.
Range: 40kms [Howitzer]; 90kms [Field Gun]; 120kms [Field Gun ETC/EM assisted]
Velocity: Mach 4 to Mach 7
Warhead: 72 Anti-Armor or Anti-Personnel Grenade Submunitions
Fire Capabilities: Non Line of Site; Fire and Forget
Guidance: GPS, Inertial, Millimeter Wave
Replacement Cost: 12,000 USD
Production Rights: 40 Million USD



TIR.21.155 SADARM Round
Description: This Sense and Destroy Armor Munition is an extended program to the M898 munition of the US Army. The round carries a host of anti-armor submunitions that release themselves on top of enemy light armoured vehicles, penetrating the top armour. How it works is that the round uses a parachute like device to slowly fall over the target and at a certain height, dictated by a range of sensors, the round divides into two submunition penetrators that use their own sensors to search and destroy for enemy vehicles. When the target is located the submunition fires an explosively formed penetrator [EFP] at it. Under the best circumstances the TIR.21.155 SADARM has been able to destroy two vehicles with one round.
Range: 35kms [howitzer]; 50kms [artillery]; 80kms [EM or ETC artillery]
Velocity: Mach 4-7; terminal varies
Warhead: Anti-armour submunitions
Guidance: Inertial, GPS and Millimeter Wave
Replacement Cost: 12,000 USD
Production Rights Cost: 40 Million USD



TIR.33.155 TCR Round
Description: This Trajectory Correctable Munition is designed to be a cross between the SADARM and the DPICM munitions, although the guidance is a bit different, although more accurate. The round is designed to be modular, allowing any country to drop either the DPICM or SADARM rounds and just use this one, producing them to fit either role - but the casting itself would be the same, making the round consequently much cheaper to design, especially if a country designs both. At some point it is hoped that the Ejermacht will just begin to order variants of the TIR.33.155 instead of using both the TIR.21.155 and the TIR.76.155. The round is also wooden requiring absolutely no user maintenance, making them cheaper in that respect as well, with a storage life of twenty years.
Range: 37kms [howitzer]; 60 kms [artillery]; 100 kms [ETC/EM artillery]
Velocity: Mach 2-7 depending on variant
Warhead: HE, SADARM, DPICM
Guidance: GPS, INS, Millimeter Wave, Projectile Tracking System, Terminal Homing, Counter Radar and UAV directed [optional].
Replacement Cost: 9,000 USD
Production Rights Cost: 50 Million USD



TIR.217.155 HD Round
Description: The TIR.217.155 HD shel, just like the TIR.11.155 HE round,l is merely an empty casting full of HD blister gas using a small brazen fuse, although there have been claims that the Ejermacht has issued the same round without the fuze, dispersing it randomly within stockpiles of the round; the idea is to defeat shortstop equipped ordnance. The round itself is rocket assisted, and out of the muzzle of the Corbulo has an extremely amazing range.
Range: 80kms [standard]; 30kms [howitzer]; 100kms [Corbulo]
Velocity: Mach 4-6
Warhead: Blister Gas
Guidance: INS, GPS
Replacement Cost: 7,500 USD
Production Rights Cost: 20 Million USD

TIR.17.155 RAAM Round
Description: The TIR.17 Remote Anti-Armor Munition is designed to be able to carry anti-armor mine munitions far distances, allowing to set up remote mine fields within minutes, especially in the face of an enemy advance. The round, if produced by Kriegzimmer, carries a single type of mine, set off through sensors which detail pressure and proximity, being quite accurate, and rather hard to see and deactivate in time. They are not designed to destroy tanks but rather blow off parts of the tracks, allowing further artillery and other strikes to deal with the now stopped armour. The rounds first battle testing grounds were at Ruska against Havenite [SafeHaven2] armour, and proved to be quite successful. The mine has a 48 hour lifespan.
Range: 30 to 70 kilometers
Velocity: Mach 2 to Mach 5
Warhead: Submunitions; 60 anti-tank mines
Guidance: Inertial and GPS
Replacement Cost: 8,000 USD
Production Rights Cost: 30 Million USD


TIR.81.155 ADAM Round
Description: The TIR.81 Area Denial Anti-personnel Mine works just like the TIR.17 RAAM mine, and is in fact the same casting as the TIR.17, using modular parts, only the submunitions are exchanged with anti-personnel mines. The TIR.81 is most of the time used hand in hand with the TIR.17s, providing anti-personnel and anti-tank mine fields against fast advancing armies, and has the distinct possibilities of slowing advances down. The mine has a life span, just like the mine of its TIR.17 counterpart, of 48 hours.
Range: 30 to 80 kilometers
Velocity: Mach 2 to 5
Warhead: Submuntions; 80 anti-personnel mines
Guidance: Inertial and GPS
Replacement Cost: 8,000 USD
Production Rights Cost: 30 Million USD


TIR.31.155 AFAP Round
Description: The TIR.31 is a nuclear tipped Artillery-Fired Atomic Projectile, with rocket assist, offering it an excellent range. It's a mini tactical nuclear weapon, designed to destroy large amounts of enemy personnel and vehicles within single strikes. The shell has never been used by the Empire's forces, although it is always stockpiled as a possibility. In fact, official numbers on stockpiles don't exist, but it's been estimated that the Empire holds around two hundred to three hundreds of these types of rounds on reserve and that they are rushed over to areas of high priority in case the war becomes a nuclear war. The nuclear warhead also use the effect of extended radiation [ER] to increase the killing power of the shell.
Range: 80 Kilometers
Velocity: Mach 6
Warhead: Nuclear [small]
Guidance: Inertial, GPS, Millimeter Wave
Replacement Cost: 275,000 USD
Production Rights Cost: 300 Million USD
Lame Bums
12-11-2005, 02:52
To: Kriegzimmer Board

We are back again. We are requesting production rights to the 400mm Coastal Railgun, the SOV-06 Infantry Combat Vehicle, and the Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun. We are willing to pay up to [and including] one hundred billion USD's for these designs.
The Macabees
12-11-2005, 18:01
To: Kriegzimmer Board

We are back again. We are requesting production rights to the 400mm Coastal Railgun, the SOV-06 Infantry Combat Vehicle, and the Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun. We are willing to pay up to [and including] one hundred billion USD's for these designs.


To:Lame Bums

Thank you for returning to Kriegzimmer. As always we have opted to confirm this for one hundred billion USD, and so the production rights to the railguns, SOV-6 IFV and the Corbulo SP 155mm Field Gun will be sent by aircraft to your general staff quarters. We hope that your military finds good uses for these designs. Again, thank you for coming back to Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Silver Sky
12-11-2005, 18:16
The Silver Sky would like to purchase 100,000 Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Guns ($65,000,000,000 USD) and production rights to the:
TIR.11.155 HE Round: $25 Million USD
TIR.33.155 TCR Round: $50 Million USD
TIR.17.155 RAAM Round: $30 Million USD
TIR.81.155 ADAM Round: $30 Million USD
TIR.31.155 AFAP Round: $300 Million USD
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Total: $65.435 Billion USD
Spizania
12-11-2005, 19:58
The Confederacy of Spizania would like to buy the production rights to all of the Artillery rounds

W@W: *Ditto*
McKagan
12-11-2005, 20:43
[New Order]
Yet again Macabee engineering has came out with a product we could use at the most perfect time imaginable. Just recently a Joint Chiefs overview stated that McKagan (mostly Army, but the same problem exists in the Marines) Artillery Divisions didn't have up-to-par shells. Simply, we wish to purchase production rights for all the shells.
The Macabees
12-11-2005, 21:59
The Silver Sky would like to purchase 100,000 Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Guns ($65,000,000,000 USD) and production rights to the:
TIR.11.155 HE Round: $25 Million USD
TIR.33.155 TCR Round: $50 Million USD
TIR.17.155 RAAM Round: $30 Million USD
TIR.81.155 ADAM Round: $30 Million USD
TIR.31.155 AFAP Round: $300 Million USD
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Total: $65.435 Billion USD

To: The Silver Sky

Welcome allies of the Empire, and thank you in advance for your purchase. The entire order, of course, has been approved for the above stated price. For the Corbulos, ten thousand will make sent per month, equating to a total of ten months to completely fill the order. The contruction layouts to the shells will be sent along with the first order of equipment. Again, thank you for coming to Kriegzimmer for your artillery needs.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The Confederacy of Spizania would like to buy the production rights to all of the Artillery rounds

W@W: *Ditto*


To: Spizania

Howdy, once again. The production rights have been approved and they will be sent by aircraft to your country and handed in directly to your officials in the general staff of the army, ensuring an effecient transfer. Thank you, as we always say!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


[New Order]
Yet again Macabee engineering has came out with a product we could use at the most perfect time imaginable. Just recently a Joint Chiefs overview stated that McKagan (mostly Army, but the same problem exists in the Marines) Artillery Divisions didn't have up-to-par shells. Simply, we wish to purchase production rights for all the shells.


To: McKagan

Indeed, we hope that these shells do great within your armed forces, and in fact, we're sure they will. We're glad that you chose our shells over others and we can ensure you that you have not made a bad choice, and in fact, you've made the best choice. As we always do, the plans will be sent by aircraft and we will detail ourselves to finding a way to give it to your general staff directly, keeping all information and plans completely confidential between us and those who pay. Thank you for yet another purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



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[note: The new destroyer will be up very, very soon.]
The Silver Sky
12-11-2005, 23:10
The Silver Sky would like to puchase production rights to the:
TIR.76.155 ER DPICM Round: 40 Million USD
TIR.21.155 SADARM Round: 40 Million USD
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Total: 80 Million USD
Halberdgardia
13-11-2005, 00:32
Once again following the lead of our McKagan friends, we wish to purchase all of the new, above-listed artillery shells, as well as production rights to the Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun. Payment will be wired upon confirmation.
The Macabees
13-11-2005, 00:50
The Silver Sky would like to puchase production rights to the:
TIR.76.155 ER DPICM Round: 40 Million USD
TIR.21.155 SADARM Round: 40 Million USD
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Total: 80 Million USD


To: The Silver Sky

These have been confirmed as well, and they will be delivered along with the others in the first shipment of Corbulos.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: Although I probably never will, I really want to use those nuclear rounds. :D ]


Once again following the lead of our McKagan friends, we wish to purchase all of the new, above-listed artillery shells, as well as production rights to the Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun. Payment will be wired upon confirmation.


To: Halberdgardia

And once again, following what we said to McKagan, we approve and confirm the order and the production rights for all of the stated material has been added up [assume you paid the right amount < . <]. They will be delivered to your general staff immediately. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Macabees
13-11-2005, 00:53
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Length: 175.56m
Beam: 21.94m
Draft: 9.75m
Displacement: 9,170 tons [full load]
Propulsion: Baldur PBNR; 2 shafts
Velocity: 32 knots
Range: Limited only by food and crew comfort
Crew Complement: 24 Officers, 354 enlisted
Armament:
Four 8 cell quadruple rotation VLS [total of 128 missiles]
Eight 2 cell quadruple rotation VLS [total of 64 missiles]
ASub.362.A Cain Anti-Shipping Complex
Av.36 MADCAP Torpedo 'Tiburon'
CRU.11.A Supersonic Cruise Missile
CRU.11.B Hypersonic Cruise Missile
Shockhound Avenger Anti-Shipping Missile
Sledgehammer Anti-Shipping Missile
Six Conhort CIWS Platforms
Two Dual 304mm ETC Turrets
Six Praetorian Batteries [P.746.A]
Countermeasures:
Noisemakers
6x ASHUM
Lightweight Automated Depthcharges
Aircraft: 2 Ji-12 LAMPS
Sensors:
Phased Array Radar
Surface Search Radar
Weapons Control System Radar
General Purpose Lidar Transmitter
Countermeasure Lidar Transmitter
X-372 Verticle Towed Array
X-915 Towed Array
CI-56 Bow Mounted Sonar


Armor and Value: Unlike other navies, although also like other navies, the Macabees has always valued high armour ratings on shipping, even light shipping, simply because in the days of mass missile strikes and heavy weight torpedoes more and more armour is needed to defend against said strikes, and the Illium, regardless of the navy's policy of making 'lighter' battle groups, follows that idealogy the best it can. To this effect the Illium class DDG does not lack tensile strength in its armour, although it uses fairly lighter variants of ship armour than the other ship. Indeed, after review of other armoured composites it was opted that the Illium would be as light as possible, especially since the exchange of a diesel-electric turbine for a pebblebed reactor had increased weight by some two thousand tons. Indeed, the PBNR was so heavy that the engineering consortium that designed the ship spent the most time of all attempting to lighten other aspects up, one of the major reasons why there are only two gun turrets on the Illium.

The armour under the waterline is composed of a series of bulkheads for protection against torpedoes, although true enough, it can't stand up to many torpedoes, although compartimentalization does allow for flooding to be controlled and excellent bouyancy and bouyancy exchange exercises allows the Illium to take multiple torpedo hits, depending on the torpedo size, before listing or sinking outright, making the Illium class DDG perfect for anti-submarine warfare, one of its primary roles. Nonetheless, the submerged armour isn't as exotic as the armour prepared for engagement against enemy anti-shipping missiles, simply because it's been analyzed that most attacks nowadays are supersurface engagements.

To this effect the Illium class DDG offers a great armoured scheme composed of four principle layers. The first layer is a plastic and glass composite, offering itself to be lightweight, and with some 'stealth' properties that are extremely lucritive for a ship designed for the roles envisioned for the Illium. The first layer is also extremely modular, composed of what can only be called ablative blocks and sheets, and to this effect if one is damaged it can easily be replaced either at a drydock or out at sea if the battle group is stationary for two to three days and there is a maintenance ship with the battle group.

The second layer is a lighter version of the standard armoured scheme used on all heavy naval vessels of the Empire, centered around vanadium. It still uses a principle sheet of vanadium but uses double carbon bonds to weave strings of depleted uranium, tungsten, titanium and manganese around a series of matrices, providing for the strengthening of the armour. Because of this, the armour can be be madee thinner and it will still hold relatively high armoured values. This is all reinforced by modular ceramics encasing the matrix composite with hardened ceramic tiles, allowing for easy encasement replacement and e xtra mass for the armour.

The third layer is simply an anti-spalling layer coupled with the beginning of the final layers of armour which amount to compounds and designs which absorb the kenetic energy of a projectile, disallowing it entrance within the destroyer, causing damage from the inside. A network of armored and reeinforced rods, supporting beams, and a unique (well, not for NS) "honeycomb" design that provides a sound support, both structurally and integrally, for the rest of the ship. This portion of the ship is the most time intensive to build, with this framework actually built around the keel before any of the rest of the ship is laid across its skeleton. Though this step contributes to much of the slow building time, it allows the ship to both absorb damage far above the amounts its RHA values would suggest and give it the support necessary to handle the wegiht of the armor scheme and araments. Finally, the framework connectors connect the framework, armor, and bulkheads together. It has been rated as very strong, they prevent the ship's interior from warping or cracking when strained.

Technically, there is one last part, although it doesn't add any armoured value. It's a blast space, normally for storage, where the explosive would cause damage to these specially designed compartments and fail to do damage to the rest of the ship, giving the ship a somewhat longer life when facing mass missile strikes.

Armoured values have the literal readings of 406.4mm on the belt, with 435.2mm on the turret faceplates and 217.89mm on the deck. The superstructure yields a rating of 312.6mm and the bulkheads 397.3mm, offering an impressive defensive empowerment. Rolled homogenous ratings remain unknown although it is known that they are relatively high, and especially within the context of armour values for other destroyers of the same type.

Armament: The most obvious armaments are the two gun turret mounts, one at the head of the ship and one in the rear, providing a total of four 304mm guns, using the ETC design, using an electrical charge to create a plasma to power the chemical propellant, giving the gun a 90% increase in effeciency and power, and consequently, the Illium's main guns have a range of 60 kilometers, also depending on the shell type. Each turret stores three hundred rounds for both guns, giving one hundred and fifty rounds per gun.

The Illium also has four strings of eight cell VLS tubes, and an extra eight strings of two cell VLS tubes, with each VLT given a four compartment rotational fire mechanism, allowing for the storage and fire of a total of 192 missiles. Any Kriegzimmer missile or torpedo can be used with the VLS, including the Cain Complex. There are also six Conhort CIWS platforms and six Praetorian batteries, designed in length for the P.746.A surface to air missile, the longest range missile designed and produceced by Kriegzimmer.

Cost: 1.2 Billion
Production Rights: 150 Billion
Pushka
14-11-2005, 00:24
We would like to purchase production rights for the following models:

TIR.11.155 HE Round
TIR.76.155 ER DPICM Round
TIR.21.155 SADARM Round
TIR.33.155 TCR Round
TIR.217.155 HD Round
TIR.17.155 RAAM Round
TIR.81.155 ADAM Round
TIR.31.155 AFAP Round

Total Cost: 535 million USD

Sufficient funds to be transfered by the National Bank of the Russian Federation upon the confirmation of the order.

-Russian Federation Defense Council
Pushka
14-11-2005, 01:19
OOC: Wait, so do you want to do the sub with me? Also did you read my TG concerning the tank and the nuclear reactor?
The Macabees
14-11-2005, 17:27
To: Pushka

Welcome back to Kriegzimmer! The entire order, of course, has been confirmed and all plans will be flown to your general staff headquarters and given to the desigated men in person. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


[OoC: No, no, no. This tank is meant to be huge]

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[NOT FOR SALE]


[Note: A lot of discussion was done on the NS Draftroom (http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/), but because guests can't view I can't refer you to the thread. Nonetheless, a lot of discussion was done there, but since this isn't really a purchase thread you can argue all you want here as well. But, one key note, this isn't designed to be effecient, or to be fielded in huge humbers.]


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Arca. III Morrigan Ultra Heavy Battle Tank Ausfva. A

Abstract: The idea of an ultra heavy battle tank was taken from the myths sorrounding the defense of Keto Pass by Eurusea using a single supertank. Although the victory of the Scaramanga is attributed to the fact that the enemy had relatively poor aerial assets, allowing the Scaramanga to remain unscathed until it was destroyed by the Vermillion, another heavy design, the Scaramanga has remained in the hearts of the people who have heard of Keto Pass, and understandably, had a division of main battle tanks held the pass it would have never been remembered with such awe. Within that context the Morrigan is designed. It's purpose is to fight when the fight is already over, but when it does to inspire, to strike fear within the hearts of her foes. It can be used as a last chance weapon, using it's strength to defend itself for hours at a time, allowing units behind it to retreat, although the expenses of the tank negate the cost effectiness of the tactic, it can be used in sieges, urban combat, et cetera. One would suspect that the physics of the matter would put extreme restrictions to the design, but that is simply untrue, and although it's suceptible to air attack, it also is, for the most part, self supporting.

Morrigan, Celtic Goddess of War, death, ravens, fertility and fate, gives her name to this tank. It fits well, as this tank is the giver of death, weaver of fate, and if merciful, the returner of fertility. This tank is the God of main battle tanks, although not the first of the design; nonetheless, it is the result of hard work to strive to make it better than the rest, although understandably, that is a hard task indeed. Nonetheless, the only tanks that are even thought to be able to withstand the Morrigan are the armoured designs of Eurusea. This tank is a land based dreadnought, and forever shall it inspire fear within the enemies of the Golden Throne.

To date there are a total of twenty Morrigans in service with the Golden Throne, all stashed away in extremely hardened underground storage facilities, awating when they are to be called to duty. Four of these goddesses are in Tordesillas [a provence of mine connected to a lot of people], two others in Gerfaanlich [a provence of mine in Haven, under the name of my puppet], and the rest within the Empire itself. Of course, with deployment changes nonwithstanding, these numbers are to stay fairly stable, but it's supposed that the government will never fully release where exactly these tanks are, and in what number, until they are seen on the surface.

The tank's gun has been said to be able to penetrate anything that rolls, or walks, or moves in general, on the surface, and its power is not to be underestimated. Apart from the huge gun, the tank does depart from old supertank designs it certain respects. Eurusean engineers claimed that the biggest threat to a supertank was another supertank, and in that respect the armour quality just did not help, so most of the money was spent elsewhere. Contraire to their own idealogy, the Morrigan does focus a lot on armour, as well as everything else, all quantifying the final cost which is truly going to send shockwaves through the community. Nonetheless, engineers and the administration have expressed their opinion that the costs are well worth the design.

There is no actual widespread exportation of the tank, although close allies can put in requests to purchase the piece of armour, and will most likely be approved. However, the design is to offer the advantage to the Empire, so any exported design would most likely be another piece of armour within itself, under the guise of another variant. So, it's safe to say that the Empire is not particularly open about selling the Morrigan, and will most likely never be until a new UHBT design is released, which may be a pipedream.

The ground will literally shake.

Power Plant: The most controversial aspect of the Morrigan is her pebble bed nuclear reactor, designed after the Nereus, called the PBR.23.AGI. The reactor itself is put right side up, reaching a total of 9.4 meters in height, while it's around 6.8 meters in diameter. The entire sysmte is about ten meters by ten meters by ten meters [10x10x10], offering a very cost effective, small, and affordable engine design for the Morrigan, although weighing a full one thousand two hundred tons, dropped from the original weight of two thousand tons only because the size of the engine was adapted to illustrate the fact that the engine is not designed to put nearly as much power as does the Nereus. Converted to horsepower, in terms of the international readings, it measures up to 16,092 horsepower, while it measures to 16,315 in the metric horsepower and 16085 in electric horsepower. Country of interest and subsequent unit designation nonwithstanding, the tank puts out enough horsepower to sustain the weight of the Morrigan.

To increase potential horsepower, although the ratings of the design are not included because they are largely theoritical, the turbine has been made out of the best features possible to exibit maximum effeciency, something the Empire has asked for in the design, now that they are putting it potential trillions of reichmarks. The turbine is forged and casted out of a titanium aluminum TiAl superalloy known as the cast duplex 45-XD. The alloy has a spectacular resistance characteristic against fatigue crack growth and expansion, making it amongst the best for turbine application. The turbine nozzels use a ceramic component to offer the entire apparatus a 910 hour operation life, before it has to be fully maintained, or even replaced [under extreme circumstances] - this rating is rather amazing.

The gear box is perhaps the most complicated mechanism on the tank's power plant, using a dual stick transmission with ten groups and twenty gears per group, offering a grand total of two hundred gears, giving the tank a 9:1 weight to gear ratio, which is better than most others there, although the tank would still suffer from minor transmission wear over the long run, although operational charactiristics for the tank negate the disadvantage since the tank is not designed to follow behind main battle tanks at the same velocity - it just wouldn't be accurate. Nonetheless, a lesser ratio would be devastating to the design, and any more gears would make the tank that more complicated - so, the gear ratio is rather optimal.

The suspension is a very heavy hydropneumatic system, that was chosen over all others because of its versatility and the fact that it suffers no problems at all in change of road quality. It also gives a huge advantage over others, especially within the context of the harsh logistics and maintenance of this tank, the fact that it's easier to replace or maintaine, offering a very big relief to the tank's designers. It's not known whether another type of suspension would handle the weight better, but in terms of general advantages, the hydropneumatic suspension has proved itself to be the best for this specific case.

The track system works on a total of six tracks, seventy-five meters long and three meters wide, offering a total of one thousand three hundred and fifty meters squared in terms of surface area. Taking the total weight of 1,885 tons and multiplying it by the force exerted downwards for total force, which would be at its simplistic [although somewhat off] gravity multiplied by weight, it would give a total downward force of 18,491.85 newtons. So, total force on a single point would be 9.81 pascals, or 0.001429 pounds-force/square-inch [psi], which is purely extraordinary, considering that the Abrams releases around 13 psi on the ground.

All the while, to optimize the engine's capabilities, apart from the improved turbine, the tank uses an electromagnetic drivetrain, increasing horsepower output by at least three times over, providing the tank with an excellent power plant for propulsion, and it's easy to say that when it comes to power this ultra heavy battle tank does not suffer from shortages.

Main Armament: The pride of the Morrigan is her massive main gun, measuring a complete 380mm in bore size, which converts to near 15 inches, covered with a thermal shroud. The huge gun is an electrothermal chemical cannon, rifled with, not an electromagnetic coil, but with two parallel rails. The result is a much faster initial velocity when the round hits the rail, and thus a faster velocity at what has been named point Y, which would be the point in which the round reaches it's climax velocity, calculated to be around Mach 8. Keeping with the idea that Lorentz' Force provides more force the longer the rails, the rails extend the whole fifteen meters of the gun, the gun being of course, a L/50 design. The gun chamber does not portrude from the turret, and the original propellant and charge is within the turret itself, given the big size, although this does juggle around the seating arrangement of the crew a bit. In order to power the main gun the tank uses a seperate string of ultracapacitors and a series of batteries near it, but armoured, which receive their own juice from the PBR.23.AGI engine.

The same concept for the autloader used on the Arca. I Cougar was dropped for the Morrigan. It's safe to say that the autloader system could not take the weight, and if it could it would not take enough rounds to be cost effective. As a result, the Morrigan uses a variant of the carousel autoloader, using a seperate hydraulic system to push the shells into the autoloader carousel. Although this does present itself the same maintenance problems as on standard main battle tanks, it was necessary, as the rifle clip autoloader doesn't take enough shells to work to the effeciency wished by the engineers of the Morrigan.

The tank carries a huge load of ordnance. Fitted within its dimensions are forty armour piercing fin stabalized discarding sabots and forty high explosive rounds. The APFSDS round is crafted out of 100-oriented tungsten, offering a lighter variant to the depleted uranium, while denser, and now self-shaping, unlike older designs of tungsten penetrators. Meaning, the penetrator would be about twenty-five kilograms in mass, moving at Mach 7 at it's highest velocity, meaning it will hit the enemy with a force of 59,551 newtons, which with its density, general armoured penetration values exceed ten thousand millimeters; although it really depends on the armour type its hitting.

The length of the gun offers itself for several problems dealing with friction and pressures on the muzzle. To avoid buckling the main gun is supported by two columns jutting out of the armour below, offering themselves to be sturdy, even if a shell hits them, and a series of eight titanium suspension cables controlled over a pully system. Although rather suceptible to damage, that is all that can be done, and the gun would only buckle only after ten shots or so, allowing the gun to take out a threat, and then the maintenance crews replacing the cables.

To cover the weight of the gun, the turret turns based on electromagnetic ball bearings, allowing the turret to turn as if 'floating on air'. This allows for a far greater rotational speed, keeping the tank's quick targetting times. The same thing was applied, for the same effect, on the Arca. I Cougar Main Battle tank.

Secondary Armament: The Morrigan carries quite a bit of secondary armament. The two most apparent secondary guns are two mini turret mounts underneath the main gun [avoiding conflict of field of fire and traverse of the turrets] carrying a single 88mm ETC gatling on each turret. The guns use helium cooling systems to have a four barrel rotating fire system, putting out a maximum rate of fire of twenty rounds per minute. Unlike what most people perceive as an 88mm, these barrels only have a length of twenty calibres, offering a length of only 1.7 meters, perfect for soft skinned or light armour vehicles. Each mini-turret holds sixty APFSDS rounds.

The tank also has five 12.7mm heavy machine guns, operated by the three gunners, the commander and driver through a lever system, following the design of old German tanks. The guns are mostly for anti-personnel uses, in case enemy infantry come to close to the tank. The field of fire covers the entire tank, and a 7.62mm machine gun is used near the end of the tank to cover that blind spot. However, more often that not, the tank will have plenty of infantry around it to cover it's blind spots. On the top of the turret the tank also has two swivel mini-turrets, smaller than those the 88s are mounted on, holding two 37mm anti-air artillery cannons designed to be heavy close-in weapon systems, and anti-helicopter systems.

To provide the Morrigan with further defenses it also includes two four cell P.746.B surface to air missile launchers, stocked with eight missiles total, four on either side. This provides the tank with medium range surface to air missile defenes in case of an aerial attack.

Fire and Control System: The Arca III uses an updated version of Brass, the FCS system introduced with the BredtSvert years ago. Although the entire process takes only milliseconds worth of time, it can be broken up into several distinct levels of operation. First, the FCS systems gathers all low resolution imagery, infra-red imagery, high resolution imagery and infra-red imagery, radar information and sensor information. Using all of this the FCS system can detect vehicle position, orientation and range, as well as provide accurate ballistic solutions, and preform threat solutions with fast countermeasure expenditure. This information is displayed to the crew, communicated with tanks in the same information network, and translated into the tank armament, providing the Morrigan with one of the best fire and control systems currently do date. In fact, there is information to back up the claim, and proof that the upgraded Brass is one of a kind.

For high and low resolution imagery the tank is equipped with two seperate digital cameras, feeding raw data to avoid pixel compression. Although there is room for mistakes from the feed and subsequent algorithms, the feature is on other designs and well liked, regardless of the criticism given.

The entire system has been dubbed 'Cornerstone', and as advertised, Cornerstone has the ability to track up to fifteen targets and deliver accurate information on said targets to the crew. Furthermore, with Conernstone the gun would be able to fire on the move, adding a distinct advantage, as it keeps the tank almost constantly moving during combat operations.

Armour: The armour of the Moorigan is perhaps the most contreversial, and it returns to a very old design by the Empire, the Mutawallis. The old armor was composed of a diamond helix bonded through double carbon bonds around and through a buckyball matrix, layered in 240 nano-meter strips. This was covered by the Indium/Osmium-Germanium mix 2nd Gen Supercooled Coil, which was stolen off an Iscariot VIII a while back. They are filled with supercooled liquid Xenon and when a round impacts, the liquid gasses out to counter the heat while the metal coil itself is used as a heat conductor to dissipate the attack it will render that portion of the coil useless but should still enable it to work on other parts of the tank. Especially good against HEAT. Finally there is a thick layer of NxRA Ablative Armor Blocks, up to 14cm in some places. This provides up to an additional 150mm RHA, for a total of up to 4700mm RHA. This primary armor is further reinforced by a ceramic composite bulk between it and a DUEIS plate, which gives it a final 6,000mm of armor. This final layer is coupled by a layer of NxRA armor which gives it the final RHA value of 6,500mm. This, with all a max real thickness of about 200mm.

The new, slightly variant, armour relies on the same principle, giving the same ratings in the end, but instead of the complex buckyball matrix, it's a matrix of Indium/Osmium-Germanium weaved around aggregated diamond nanorods, being substantially denser than diamond [0.3%]. From the studies on the material, although extremely expensive, they also don't have the threat of cracking or fracturing under pressure of an incoming round, and should provide the same level of effective resistance than the old design without the theoritical problems with the armour.

This, then, was effectively doubled in thickness, providing for a final rating of 13,000mm, using absolutely the most expensive armoured scheme one could find. This is finally topped off by a thick layer of chobham, giving it a final rating of 14,000mm rolled homogenous armour value. On top of this, gratings allow the application of additional appliqué armour or ERA.

Finally, in between the buckyball complex and the chobham composite there is a relatively thick layer of vanadium with depleted uranium weaved around a matrix, giving the absolutely final rating of 17,000mm of rolled homogenous armour. It is to say the Morrigan is impervious to all smaller vehicle designs, LOSAT weapons, and even smaller missiles, except other supertanks and larger bombs and missiles coming from aircraft. It truly is a beast.

Crew Compartment: The largest compartment by far is the one belonging to the tank's commander. In order to make up for the larger dimensions of the tank, and possible blind spots, and the harder job the commander is going to have commanding the tank and all other six crew members, the commander is given a wide array of navigational and command panels that resemble a lot the navigational aids of the GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber. In fact, in front of him he was two polychromatic liquid crystal matrix display screens [AMLCD] which show the information provided by the electronic vehicle instrumentation system [EVIS], and the Communication/Navigation/Identification [CNI]. Two smaller heads up display [HUD] screens contain a Engines Indication and Crew Alerting System [EICAS] and the Integrated Vehicle System Controller [IVSC]; the former is designed to keep the commander always in key with the status on the engine. Next to him the commander also has a screen displaying all targets around him, fed from the electronics and radar compartment, and a GPS locational screen, which is about four times smaller than the first.

Each gunner is positioned with the gun, so the gunners sit abreast on the tank, two a bit closer to the front of the tank than the sole center gunner for the main gun on the tank. Of course, the mini turrets turn autonomously with the main turret, although if the main turret turns so will the mini-turrets, they have to turn again to return to their previous position.

The electronics and radar compartment sits a sole crew member, with three polychromatic AMLCD screens to his forefront displaying foes around him. Although the FCS system of the main gun tracks up to fifteen target, the radar controller can track up to two hundred different targets and feed them through priority to the main gunnery, allowing for quicker reactions. The system can also electronically transfer and prioritize targets for the two smaller guns and the AAA on top. With that said, the AAA gunner sits on top of the radar operator in a more lengthened compartment, as opposed to height.

The driver sits on the far left side of the tank, in front of the 88mm ETC gunner and has a direct communications link with the commander for orders. All compartments are linked through an intra-tank communication radio system, while all other tanks cooperate through inter-tank radio, sattelite databursts and other communication methods.

Main Armament: 380mm L/50 ETC w/ EM rifling
Secondary: 5x 12.7mm MG, 2x 88mm ETC Gatling, 2x 37mm AAA, 2x Four Cell SAM
Powerplant: Nereus Nuclear Reactor
Length: 75 meters
Length [with gun]: 90 meters
Width: 25 meters
Height: 18.7 meters
Weight: 1,885 tons
Armor: 17,000mm RHA [at thickest point]
Maximum Velocity: 40 km/h
Transmission: 10 Groups; 20 Gears = 200 Gears
Braking: Dual brake, by wire
Sensors:
Cornerstone FCS - dual axis, up to 15 targest, fire on the move, et cetera
IR Rangefinder
LIDAR Rangefinder and Locator
Millimetric Multiband Radar [r. 200 meters]
Wide Synthetic Aperture Array
Sky Search TURIN F.17.890 Array
LADAR Rangefinder
Crew: Driver, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Commander, RADAR Operator, AAA Gunnery [7]
Cost: 22.6 Billion USD
Pushka
14-11-2005, 20:43
OOC: Yeah i saw that already. Well...i've been thinking if this thing is big enough then you can put a reactor into it. The only thing is you can't use a liquid coolant, instead you need to use a solid one. I am probably wrong (haven't been reading up on this sinceAugust but i think Lithium would be a fine choice for a coolant, or graphite (don't mind chernobyl), also there is another one, i don't remember its name but i do remember the designation NaK. Anyways, yeah, this might work in PMT since the size of the tank will make it non-MT material. However this is PMT and since i am an MT nation, i can't really find any use for designing this thing.
Spizania
14-11-2005, 21:32
The nation of Spizania would like to purchase prodction rights to the Lu-45, the ATG-44 Anti Tank mine, the Cordubo Artilery Gun, the Azores Class Attack Craft, the Albatross heavy bomber.

The Confderacy would also like to inquireas to the yield of the AFAP warhead.

OOC: Id also like to now if you could design a Ultra Heavy Bomebr for me, i have the B-257 but the wiretup is terrible, i want a laod of 380,000 kg and a huge bomb bay s ic an pack lots of munitions in there
McKagan
14-11-2005, 23:38
[New Purchase]
For some time the IMN has been looking to build a new guided missile destroyer. The project was pushed back with several ADVANCES in our own stealth technology. While we hold the secrets to several new technology's, that still doesn't create ships in our fleet. Simply put, we want the Illium production rights.
The Macabees
16-11-2005, 00:38
The nation of Spizania would like to purchase prodction rights to the Lu-45, the ATG-44 Anti Tank mine, the Cordubo Artilery Gun, the Azores Class Attack Craft, the Albatross heavy bomber.

The Confderacy would also like to inquireas to the yield of the AFAP warhead.

OOC: Id also like to now if you could design a Ultra Heavy Bomebr for me, i have the B-257 but the wiretup is terrible, i want a laod of 380,000 kg and a huge bomb bay s ic an pack lots of munitions in there

[OoC: I'll do my best. You mind if I use it myself?]

To: Spizana

The rights to those have been granted for whatever price they may come out to be [just assume you give me the right amount of money], and they will all be sent to your embassy within or nation; in the event that you don't have one they will be sent to your general staff headquarters.

As for the yield of the AFAP round it's rated at 2 KT [the 10 KT yield shell would have been too long for my likes..the 2 KT yield shell is about 130mm long].

Nonetheless, thank you for yet another order!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



[New Purchase]
For some time the IMN has been looking to build a new guided missile destroyer. The project was pushed back with several ADVANCES in our own stealth technology. While we hold the secrets to several new technology's, that still doesn't create ships in our fleet. Simply put, we want the Illium production rights.


To: McKagan

We're glad that the Illium has caught your interest, and without hesitation the production rights have been granted for the agreed to price [again, like Spizania, assume you paid whatever the correct price comes out to be]. We know that the Illium will serve you very well.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OoC: Pushka, I just used the cooling that the same reactor is planning to use when used on shipping.

Regardless, what do you guys want me to come out with next? I'm designing an anti-supertank ER GBU, but that's for personal reasons. Anything you guys need?]
McKagan
16-11-2005, 00:48
[OOC: Are you going to put out a Frigate?]
Spizania
16-11-2005, 00:48
OOC: No i dont mind Mac, you deserve it with all the great work you do.
I would like a replacement for the Lu-12 or that light recon vehicle you had on that list.
I dont have problems with supertanks, i take them ou twiht my own :)
The Macabees
16-11-2005, 17:32
[OoC: Spizania, do you want this to be just a heavy bomber? Or do you want this to follow the battleship of the sky spree? I'm interested in the latter,but anything is good.]
Spizania
16-11-2005, 17:47
I think battleship of the sky (Defences and stuff) i cant have a multi-billion dollar aircraft get itself shot down can I? :)
Pushka
16-11-2005, 22:00
[OoC: Pushka, I just used the cooling that the same reactor is planning to use when used on shipping. [QUOTE]

Shipping? What coolant did you use?
Pushka
19-11-2005, 02:41
OOC: Hey mac mind letting me market my Ko-1 thing in your storefront?

Here is the link incase you agree:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9954047#post9954047
The Macabees
20-11-2005, 19:00
Pushka Designed Ko-1 Multipurpose Remote Control Vehicle

http://batmite.sloppybits.com/3d-art/tank.jpg

About the picture: Law enforcement version. Picture taken at the international police faire in Voronej.




Introduction:

After reviewing the findings of the Military Strategy and History Institute of Voronej on the nature of modern combat, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has concluded that an efficient infantry squad based unit should consist of 10 to 12 men and a special remote control vehicle that can carry out multiple functions including scouting and carrying a part of the squad’s payload. Since Russian Federation did not have such a vehicle Ministry of Defense has contracted the Nizhny Tagil Ind. to create such a machine for use by the Russian Federation armed forces. The result was Ko-1 which is currently employed within the Russian Federation by both the military and civilian enforcement agencies.


Control:

Ko-1 is controlled via a mobile VRPB (or a similar information networking system [RL equivalent=US datalink]) control center which is about the size of a regular notebook. It only takes one person to operate it. All the sensor data from the Ko-1 is displayed on MVRPBCC monitor. The MVRPBCC has its own long-range information link, which allows it to receive and share information with the VRPB computing HQs via the satellite connection. The information that is received from every unit on the battlefield is put into a single 3D battlefield model by the HQs and then given back to the units on the battlefield for use in combat, it is updated in real time. The MVRPBCC along with regular VRPB access allows one to remotely control any vehicle with an information link that has a remote control capability. In this case it is Ko-1. Ko-1 has its own short-range IL located inside the turret with a single antenna extending outside of the turret that allows it to receive and send signals back and forth with MVRPBCC which sends that same info to the satellite and the data gathered by Ko-1’s sensors gets included into the overall battlefield model this way. This is done to save money, because a long-range IL that would enable Ko-1 to send signals to the satellite is far too expensive to get included on a machine such as this, in addition it was deemed to be not necessary. The Ko-1 is controlled by receiving command signals from MVRPBCC. The maximum range at which Ko-1 can be controlled is 16 km. As a security measure a password is required to gain the access to the control over Ko-1.


Propulsion:

Ko-1 is propelled by a 234 hp LR-21 Diesel-Hybrid engine located in the extra tungsten steel armored box in front of the vehicle. In the back of the vehicle is a turbine with an electric generator. The engine in addition to propelling the vehicle forward at the same time spins the turbine, which spins the electric generator, which creates electricity, and charges up the two batteries located behind the armored plates on either side of the vehicle. The maximum speed of the vehicle is 70 km/h.

Ko-1 standard issue wheels are easily replaceable by tracks due to the design of the vehicle’s underbelly.


Sensors:

Ko-1 has both the infrared and night/day cameras, that transmit images in real time to the MVRPBCC display. The day/night cameras are located on the right upper side of the turret and above the left machine gun, while the infrared cameras are located on the left upper side of the turret and above the right machine gun. All the cameras can change their angle from -30 to +30 degrees. Near the right machine gun there is also a microphone that records sounds that are also sent to MVRPBCC via IL.

Arnament:

Ko-1 is armed with two PD-71 7.62 mm machine guns, with 900 bullets per second rate of fire. The magazine boxes hanging from the sides of the machine guns each contain 1400 rounds. The machine guns can fire both anti-personnel and anti-armor ammunitions.

Armor:

The armor scheme is simple a single 6 centimeter thick layer of tungsten steel followed by a rubber layer to protect all the inner systems from any possible damage by fragments. All the vital systems including the engine, the IL and all the sensors are enclosed in tungsten steel containers within the armor for extra protection. All the wires are covered with rubber beneath which is steel.


Utilities:

Ko-1 has several features that are designed to help the infantry squad that possesses this fine machine.

The lower part of the turret has two powerful flashlights that can be used to light up the way for the troops during night or blind and confuse the enemy during a raid. While the right flashlight is simply a lighting tool the left flashlight uses the newest in the non-lethal weaponry by sending an intense beam of green light to disorientate whoever is standing in front of Ko-1 although this is mostly designed to fit the needs of the law enforcement this feature is also available on the standard issue army Ko-1s. Both flashlights can change their angle from -10 to +30 degrees.

Ko-1 can also be used to carry equipment for the squad, for that reason the army issue Ko-1s have metal hooks sticking out of the sides on which the bags of the whole squad can be hanged. Maximum payload for Ko-1 is 500 kilograms.

The army version of Ko-1 also has a recharging outlet on the back, which allows the squadrons wearing BU-1 battle suits or similar sort of equipment to recharge their batteries.


General Information:

Production Name: Ko-1
Function: Multi-purpose remote control infantry support vehicle
Arnament: 2 x PD-71 Machine guns
Engine: LR-21 Diesel-Hybrid 234 hp
Maximum Speed: 70 km/h
Sensors: Infrared & day/night cameras
Control: Via VRPB or a similar network system depending on the software.
Weight (unloaded): 900 kilograms
Length: 1.6 meters
Width (not including wheels/tracks): 0.7 meters
Cost: 170 Thousand USD per unit
Production Rights: 247 million USD

Variants:

Ko-1G

Created specifically for the use by Russian Federation Gvardia forces. Features a long-range information link that hooks it up directly to the satelite, making the control range almost limitless. The PD-71 machine guns were replaced with a PD-14 12.6 mm Machine guns, with an increased catridge capacity each ammunition box can now carry 1600 tungsten bullets. Also Ko-1G can create its own smokescreen by burning extra fuel directly through the exhaust pipe.

Cost: 240000 USD per unit
Production Rights: not available

Ko-1M

Created for the army engineers working in the field of mine detection and disarment. All the arnament has been removed. The underbelly has been reinforced with extra 4 centimeters of tungsten steel. The wheels are created in such a way that if the mine explodes beneath Ko-1 potion of the force of the explosion will transfer to the wheels and make them bounce against the ground, propelling the whole body of the vehicle into the air and dispersing the force of the explosion. Ko-1M has kept the short range IL but has gained mine detection equipment and an extendable 2 meter long (fully extended) hydrolic arm that can be used to detonate a detected mine.

Cost: 190000 USD
Production Rights: 243 million USD
Spizania
20-11-2005, 19:19
OOC: Since you released the Cougar does that mean your replacing your BredtSverds? If so could i buy all of them at a knockdown price?
McKagan
20-11-2005, 20:01
(OOC: I don't know if i've already did it or not, but I don't think i've got the Production rights to the Praetorian. So i'd like the get them, thanks.)
Spizania
21-11-2005, 20:29
In addition to wishing to purchase any and all Surplus BredtSverds you have the Confderacy would like to place an emergancy order for Two Zealous Class Superdreadnaughts with Aircraft money will be wired on comfirmation
The Macabees
22-11-2005, 00:32
(OOC: I don't know if i've already did it or not, but I don't think i've got the Production rights to the Praetorian. So i'd like the get them, thanks.)

[OOC: I'll just assume I sold them to you.]


In addition to wishing to purchase any and all Surplus BredtSverds you have the Confderacy would like to place an emergancy order for Two Zealous Class Superdreadnaughts with Aircraft money will be wired on comfirmation


[OOC: Assumed they were confirmed; as for the BredtSverds, most of my tanks are still BredtSverds; they're being slowly replaced and I can claim that around two or three divisions were replaced now, so that makes for 1500 tanks that I can sell you for a cheap price; but most of my tanks are still Pzkmpf. XI until I can replace them all slowly throughout the War of Golden Succession and the World War which will sorta spring out from it.]
Halberdgardia
22-11-2005, 02:27
In the interest of maintaining one of the highest-quality air forces in the world, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia would like to purchase production rights to the new and improved Lu-45 "Hawk" aircraft.
Sparta Dominion
22-11-2005, 02:35
This may sound crazy, but how much would 16 million of your battle-suits cost? I wish to buy that many.
Corzia
22-11-2005, 03:11
The Allied States has seen the need for new shell designs for its large amounts of artillery pieces. As such, Corzia wishes to purchase:
-The production rights to the:
=TIR.217.155 HD Round
=TIR.17.155 RAAM Round
=TIR.81.155 ADAM Round
=TIR.33.155 TCR Round
=TIR.21.155 SADARM Round
=TIR.76.155 ER DPICM Round
=TIR.11.155 HE Round
-6 000 Arca. I Cougar Ausfva. A MBT's

Our total should be: USD 61 399 750 000
Corzia
22-11-2005, 03:16
Sparta, that would be USD 800 000 000 000
The Macabees
22-11-2005, 03:24
In the interest of maintaining one of the highest-quality air forces in the world, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia would like to purchase production rights to the new and improved Lu-45 "Hawk" aircraft.

To: Halberdgardia

The order has been confirmed for [OOC:Made up on the spot] 45 billion USD; if that price is not compatible we are willing to engage in negotiations for a more suitable price. Regardless, the production rights [This is sorta OOC too; but this is talking about the ongoing edits within the NS Draftroom] will include the new materials and the new wing design, which will be an enhanced delta wing with changed stall points to the root of the wing to enhance manueverability. It should drop cost of the production of the Lu-45 and especially in the maintenance of the aircraft. Regardless, thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


This may sound crazy, but how much would 16 million of your battle-suits cost? I wish to buy that many.


To: Sparta Dominion

Crazy used to be our expertise before we turned conservative in design nature, regardless, the order has been confirmed for the price specified by our Corzian comrades, eight hundred billion USD. Should you want to pay this in installments we are happy to provide that for you, without the rise of interest. Our job is to please the clientel, which in this case is you. Otherwise, thank you for your order and welcome to Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The Allied States has seen the need for new shell designs for its large amounts of artillery pieces. As such, Corzia wishes to purchase:
-The production rights to the:
=TIR.217.155 HD Round
=TIR.17.155 RAAM Round
=TIR.81.155 ADAM Round
=TIR.33.155 TCR Round
=TIR.21.155 SADARM Round
=TIR.76.155 ER DPICM Round
=TIR.11.155 HE Round
-6 000 Arca. I Cougar Ausfva. A MBT's

Our total should be: USD 61 399 750 000


To:[b/] Corza

The entire order has been confirmed for all of the artillery roudns listed as well as the six thousand Cougar main battle tanks. The blueprints to the artillery rounds should arrive immediately by aircraft - which in more specific terms is about two days - while the six thousand Cougars will arrive in batches of five hundred every month, amounting to twelve months total for the order. Thank you for yet another purchase; we are happy to serve you once again.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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[[b]NOTE: All previous purchasers of the Lu-45 can also assume they will get the upgrades for free.]
Corzia
22-11-2005, 04:56
did you get my tg, mac?
The Macabees
22-11-2005, 05:11
[OOC: Nope; funny, I didn't get either yours or Jagada's.]
The Macabees
22-11-2005, 06:12
[OOC: As a note the Lu-45 Hawk has been officially refitted with better materials and a change in wind des ign. I might go through an expansion of the sensor system later, although I'm not entirely sure and I might just devote all of the time for that to an AWACS aircraft which I lack and I really need. Speaking about aircraft, I have to get to Spizania's design as well.]
Spizania
22-11-2005, 19:02
The Confederacy will take all 1500 of the Panzer XIs you have available and asked if they can be delivered with their guns remounted to 126mm ETCs. Whatever the cost the money will be wired on confirmation

We would also like to purchase 10000 New BredtSverds from you upgunned with the 126mm ETCs, we hope that these will be delivered with there usual expediency.

OOC: When will this WW be starting, i want to use my new Sol-Invictus class armoury ship on someone
Lame Bums
22-11-2005, 22:23
To: Kriegzimmer

We would like to acquire the production to the rights to the Lu-45 Hawk (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9708782&postcount=533) for the upcoming war versus the Central Alliance. Most obstensibly, the purpose of our deploying these would be to combat the Truitti-built TyH-55 Merlin Hawks. We are willing to pay up to one hundred billion USD's for the designs.

[OOC: Also, if you could replace the Ferne with the Dachel, under the tank section of foriegn technology - thanks.]
Corzia
22-11-2005, 23:38
oh, i have to leave our gun project because of school and just a lack of time on my end.
The Macabees
23-11-2005, 01:14
The Confederacy will take all 1500 of the Panzer XIs you have available and asked if they can be delivered with their guns remounted to 126mm ETCs. Whatever the cost the money will be wired on confirmation

We would also like to purchase 10000 New BredtSverds from you upgunned with the 126mm ETCs, we hope that these will be delivered with there usual expediency.

OOC: When will this WW be starting, i want to use my new Sol-Invictus class armoury ship on someone

To: The Confederacy of Spizania

The one thousand five hundred Pzkfw. XI BredtSverts will be fully maintained to be made brandnew and will be sent to your nearest port in one huge order which will arrive in around two weeks. Their guns will be dismounted and used as available replacements to the guns of our own BredtSverts but unfortunately, we don't produce 126mm guns in our factories as we never had a reason to. So, we can postone the delivery, produce the needed guns which can take up to a month, and then deliver, or you can take the gunless tanks and just put the guns on them yourself. Regardless of your decision we are happy to do either one of them. Thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: The war is likely to begin within two to three weeks, I believe; depending on the speed of this war with Jagada.]


To: Kriegzimmer

We would like to acquire the production to the rights to the Lu-45 Hawk for the upcoming war versus the Central Alliance. Most obstensibly, the purpose of our deploying these would be to combat the Truitti-built TyH-55 Merlin Hawks. We are willing to pay up to one hundred billion USD's for the designs.

[OOC: Also, if you could replace the Ferne with the Dachel, under the tank section of foriegn technology - thanks.]


To: Lame Bums

The order has been confirmed and the Hawk production rights are yours; should a change come in the sensor system you will be provided with said updates free of charge. The cost will be as you specified, one hundred billion. Thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer

[OOC: Will do.]

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Corzia: Ah, yes; I got that one a while ago.
Sparta Dominion
23-11-2005, 15:46
To: Halberdgardia

The order has been confirmed for [OOC:Made up on the spot] 45 billion USD; if that price is not compatible we are willing to engage in negotiations for a more suitable price. Regardless, the production rights [This is sorta OOC too; but this is talking about the ongoing edits within the NS Draftroom] will include the new materials and the new wing design, which will be an enhanced delta wing with changed stall points to the root of the wing to enhance manueverability. It should drop cost of the production of the Lu-45 and especially in the maintenance of the aircraft. Regardless, thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



To: Sparta Dominion

Crazy used to be our expertise before we turned conservative in design nature, regardless, the order has been confirmed for the price specified by our Corzian comrades, eight hundred billion USD. Should you want to pay this in installments we are happy to provide that for you, without the rise of interest. Our job is to please the clientel, which in this case is you. Otherwise, thank you for your order and welcome to Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



To:[b/] Corza

The entire order has been confirmed for all of the artillery roudns listed as well as the six thousand Cougar main battle tanks. The blueprints to the artillery rounds should arrive immediately by aircraft - which in more specific terms is about two days - while the six thousand Cougars will arrive in batches of five hundred every month, amounting to twelve months total for the order. Thank you for yet another purchase; we are happy to serve you once again.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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[[b]NOTE: All previous purchasers of the Lu-45 can also assume they will get the upgrades for free.]

Money wired. How long 'till they arrive? And my military budget is 3 point some odd trillion, so don't question my order(I'm not saying you would).
Spizania
23-11-2005, 18:05
We will take delivery of the gunless tanks and mount the 126mms ourselves,
now the newly renaimed Confederate States of Spizania will order two thousand five hundred Cougar MBTs, we would also like to purchase the production rights to the Elusive Class BB, the Indestructable Class Carrier, the Paramount ADV and the Argentine Class Galleon (Maybe you shoul reclass it as a pocket superdreadnaught?)
Yurka
23-11-2005, 18:26
The Empire of Yurka is quite impressed with your selection of armaments and equipment, and would be pleased to purchase 100 of your battlesuits for testing purposes. We may also buy more in the future, depending on our findings.

The 5,000,000 USD will be wired upon confirmation of this request.


Secondary Imperial General,
Karth Grimoire
The Macabees
23-11-2005, 19:59
Money wired. How long 'till they arrive? And my military budget is 3 point some odd trillion, so don't question my order(I'm not saying you would).

[OoC: Well, you can safely assume five hundred thousand per month, which means a total of thirty-two months, so a little over a year.]


We will take delivery of the gunless tanks and mount the 126mms ourselves,
now the newly renaimed Confederate States of Spizania will order two thousand five hundred Cougar MBTs, we would also like to purchase the production rights to the Elusive Class BB, the Indestructable Class Carrier, the Paramount ADV and the Argentine Class Galleon (Maybe you shoul reclass it as a pocket superdreadnaught?)


To: Spizania

Wonderfull, the armour should arrive as specified within two weeks. The Cougars will arrive within three to four months and the production rights to the stated ships immediately. The production rights have been measured at 500 billion USD, which can be paid in installments of one hundred billion a year. In terms of classification, the Argentine is no smaller than a superdreadnought so it's not really pocket size; it just doesn't have VLS tubes and surface to air weapons, which is left to the Paramount [which should escort the Argentine at all times] - it just has more guns. It's a dreadnought killer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The Empire of Yurka is quite impressed with your selection of armaments and equipment, and would be pleased to purchase 100 of your battlesuits for testing purposes. We may also buy more in the future, depending on our findings.

The 5,000,000 USD will be wired upon confirmation of this request.


Secondary Imperial General,
Karth Grimoire


To: General Karth Grimoire, Yurka

Thank you for your compliments on Kriegzimmer; the one hundred battlesuits, because we are so estatic to hear your reply on how they fared, will be shipped immediately, for free; no money is necessary. Thank you for your interest and we hope said interest continues.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
23-11-2005, 20:06
Excellent, we will pay in five installments of 100bn dollars
Corzia
24-11-2005, 00:27
OOC: good, i wasn't sure if you got it.

IC:
The Allied States is requesting the production rights to the:
-AAM Series of Air to Air Missiles
-MTAAM-3 Silencer Air to Air Missile
-MLAM-2 Air to Surface Missile
-P.746.X Praetorian Surface to Air Missile and Variants

In addition to the production rights we are placing an order for:
-2 000 155mm Krigud Self Propelled Artillery Guns
-1 SRSB Naram-Sin (w/o missiles)
-9 000 Sledgehammer Anti-Shipping Anti-SuperDreadnought Missiles


Our equipment total should be USD 1 306 172 500 000.
McKagan
24-11-2005, 05:03
The Imperial McKagan Coast Guard, newly split from the Navy, requires new equipment. Although Avalina Ironworks, inc. has provided us with the Illusion Class Frigate and Conway Class Corvette, we are looking to bring added fire support to the table. The Navy, not long ago, bought a group of Tenerife class SSH's. We would like to do the same, and purchase 15.
Exetonia
24-11-2005, 14:59
The Exetonian government wishes to purchase to replace her aged battle ships

4 x Zealous class Super Dreadnough with Full Compliment of Aircraft: 200 at a total of 800 billion us dollars.

We also wish to enquire that will our pilots require training to use the aircraft provided and if so, could you provide training for the pilots and how much would it cost. thank you for your time.
McKagan
25-11-2005, 01:30
[New Purchase]
The IMN has decided that, due to our recent determination that our navy is much smaller than it should be, it would be very nice for us to boost the number of SSN's in our navy greatly. We field several of our own design, several Praetonian, and several of your own SSN's. The company that builds our own attack boats has been contracted to build 20 more of the famed Sultan, but it appears the Imperial Praetonian Shipyards are closed. Thus, we are looking to boost our stocks of Cartagena class SSN by MANY units. We are hereby placing an order for 30 of these fine vessels.

Price: 28.05 billion USD
Velkya
25-11-2005, 01:42
We'll take 1,000 of the Short Range Bombers.

That's 420 billion paid up front.

We'll modify them to work as an long range bomber, if you don't mind.
The Macabees
26-11-2005, 03:10
OOC: good, i wasn't sure if you got it.

IC:
The Allied States is requesting the production rights to the:
-AAM Series of Air to Air Missiles
-MTAAM-3 Silencer Air to Air Missile
-MLAM-2 Air to Surface Missile
-P.746.X Praetorian Surface to Air Missile and Variants

In addition to the production rights we are placing an order for:
-2 000 155mm Krigud Self Propelled Artillery Guns
-1 SRSB Naram-Sin (w/o missiles)
-9 000 Sledgehammer Anti-Shipping Anti-SuperDreadnought Missiles


Our equipment total should be USD 1 306 172 500 000.

To: Allied States of Corzia
The entire order has been confirmed; the production rights for the AAM series of missiles, MTAAM-3 Silencer, MLAM-2 and P.746.X surface to air variants will be sent within three days. The two thousand Kriguds will arrive within four months, the single Naram-Sin within two months and the nine thousand Sledgehammers in two months. We hope that this is expedient enough. Thank you for the order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The Imperial McKagan Coast Guard, newly split from the Navy, requires new equipment. Although Avalina Ironworks, inc. has provided us with the Illusion Class Frigate and Conway Class Corvette, we are looking to bring added fire support to the table. The Navy, not long ago, bought a group of Tenerife class SSH's. We would like to do the same, and purchase 15.

The IMN has decided that, due to our recent determination that our navy is much smaller than it should be, it would be very nice for us to boost the number of SSN's in our navy greatly. We field several of our own design, several Praetonian, and several of your own SSN's. The company that builds our own attack boats has been contracted to build 20 more of the famed Sultan, but it appears the Imperial Praetonian Shipyards are closed. Thus, we are looking to boost our stocks of Cartagena class SSN by MANY units. We are hereby placing an order for 30 of these fine vessels.


To: Coast Guard and Navy

The fifteen Tenerifes for the coast guard and the thirty Cartagenas for the navy have been confirmed; indeed, why would we think of not selling to McKagan? The Tenerifes should arrive within three months while the Cartagenas will arrive within five. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The Exetonian government wishes to purchase to replace her aged battle ships

4 x Zealous class Super Dreadnough with Full Compliment of Aircraft: 200 at a total of 800 billion us dollars.

We also wish to enquire that will our pilots require training to use the aircraft provided and if so, could you provide training for the pilots and how much would it cost. thank you for your time.


To: Exetonia

First off, welcome to Kriegzimmer! Second, thank you for your time. Third, the order has been confirmed with the four Zealous' arriving within five years [assuming two built at the same time at different shipyards]. Since you have asked we will send a one hundred pilot team to Exetonia with the ships in five years for a six month basic training program. Thank you for the order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


We'll take 1,000 of the Short Range Bombers.

That's 420 billion paid up front.

We'll modify them to work as an long range bomber, if you don't mind.


[OoC:Both bombers are long range; the Naram-Sin is just unconventional while the other is a long range stealth bomber.]
Velkya
26-11-2005, 03:28
Gotcha, I'll assume the order is confirmed then?
The Macabees
26-11-2005, 06:51
[OoC: Yes.]
Southeastasia
26-11-2005, 06:57
OOC: Mac, I mean no offense man, but don't you think that the price of the Argentine-class Galleon is too expensive? Think of all the smaller nations that don't have the ability to purchase/create SDs...
McKagan
26-11-2005, 06:59
OOC: Personally, i WANT all this big stuff to be expensive. I don't want noobs to have floating cities with guns like that.
Southeastasia
26-11-2005, 07:08
OOC: Personally, i WANT all this big stuff to be expensive. I don't want noobs to have floating cities with guns like that.
Oh, wait a second, you're right. Silly me. :D Now why don't you post your opinion in this thread? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=455720)
Spizania
26-11-2005, 18:20
Sorry ot clutter but McKagan i lost over 70 ships because i had no way to take out two SDNs that were spraying missiles at me
McKagan
26-11-2005, 18:23
If you can afford 70 ships you can just as well buy a SD killer.
The Macabees
27-11-2005, 00:08
[OoC: Personally, I think the price of the SD is exagerated beacause say you put together what it really is; a Nimitz, an Iowa and a missileboat...so, add a hundred meters to the Nimitz and say 2 billion USD and you have 7 bill + 7 bill +2 bill + 2 bill [at the most] which is 18 billion...I really don't know how anybody came up with the price or 200 to 300 billion...even with the added guns it can't really surpass 30 to 40 billion. But, whatever.]
McKagan
27-11-2005, 00:18
[OoC: Personally, I think the price of the SD is exagerated beacause say you put together what it really is; a Nimitz, an Iowa and a missileboat...so, add a hundred meters to the Nimitz and say 2 billion USD and you have 7 bill + 7 bill +2 bill + 2 bill [at the most] which is 18 billion...I really don't know how anybody came up with the price or 200 to 300 billion...even with the added guns it can't really surpass 30 to 40 billion. But, whatever.]

[OOC: You should sell your SD for like 70-80 billion. You'd sell TONS more of them than other people.]
Zanziik
27-11-2005, 00:30
[ooc: How much man power would it take to fully staff one Carrier Battle Group and one Submersible Package?]
Southeastasia
27-11-2005, 02:52
bump for Mac
Graham and Palmer
27-11-2005, 04:48
You Excellency,
My nation wishes to purchase some of your long-range artillery guns, specificly 3,750 Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Guns, and that comes to 2,437,500,000 USD. The money has been wired.
Yours Truly,
BG Antonio Delton, Chief of Logistics, Graham and Palmer Department of War
Spizania
27-11-2005, 16:34
OOC: Whats the effectiveness ratio of the armour composite you use on the Zealous? I want ot know if I can replace it with a more effective, if more expensive composite.
The Macabees
27-11-2005, 22:07
[OOC: You should sell your SD for like 70-80 billion. You'd sell TONS more of them than other people.]

[OoC: I would take so much heat for that, that it wouldn't be funny, and the SDs would most likely be ignored; so, maybe that's an option, but it's something I have to think over.]


[ooc: How much man power would it take to fully staff one Carrier Battle Group and one Submersible Package?]


[OoC: I would say; for the carrier it's around 6000 [rounded], for the four Illium class Destroyers it would be at around 1400, for the cruisers around 1200, the four ADVs at about 800 and the five logistical ships at around 750, with a grand total of 10,150 personnel, including air comploments wherever they are needed. For the submarine package it's 3450 for the Cartagenas, 900 for the Tenerifes, 1120 for the SSBNs; so a total of 5570.]


You Excellency,
My nation wishes to purchase some of your long-range artillery guns, specificly 3,750 Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Guns, and that comes to 2,437,500,000 USD. The money has been wired.
Yours Truly,
BG Antonio Delton, Chief of Logistics, Graham and Palmer Department of War


To: Graham and Palmer

Welcome to Kriegzimmer, and no need to call us Your Excellency, as that name is reserved for Fedor, and Fedor only, and plus we are merely a weapons conglomerate. Regardless, for that extra touch of respect we will confirm your order, although we would have confirmed your order anyways. But, without further adue, you can expect your purchase to come in within five months. If you wish, you may wire the money in the form of four payments, once every six months, and that way your budget can handle it a bit better. But, it is up to you, and therefore we leave you with that. And yes, thank you for the order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


OOC: Whats the effectiveness ratio of the armour composite you use on the Zealous? I want ot know if I can replace it with a more effective, if more expensive composite.


[OoC: I would venture to say 15:1, maybe more; I'm not really up to date with naval armour ratios, but it would be stronger than any tank armour since your using more material, denser, heavier and with stronger characteristics, so I would think 10:1 to 15:1, being safe.]
Zanziik
28-11-2005, 02:05
In that case, the Zanzii Navy would like to place an order for thirty six (36) each of your Carrier Battle Groups and your Submersible packages to fully equip our standing navy. This comes to a total of $2,217,420,000,000; payable either in full now our over the course of many years, whichever better suits you.

Bob Holtz, Zanzii Minister for Defense
Jagada
28-11-2005, 02:17
To: Kriegzimmer
From: Imperial Ordance (Religious Imperium of Jagada)

Greetings,

I do hope the recent conflict between our two nations hasn't shaken your resolve to make a profit, and exploit this war. You are our supplier and as such we would like to keep good relations with you.

The Religious Imperium would like to buy the production rights to following equipment:

-155mm Incinerator Rapid Fire Artillery
-155mm Carbulo
-Wolervine LBT
-Your former Main Battle Tank (the one you had prior to the Cougar)
-The Cougar MBT

I do hope you can prehaps arrange some price for each of these and reply as soon as possible.

Thank you.
Sparta Dominion
28-11-2005, 02:58
I don't mean to bug you, flame you, or anything else, but is there a way that I can have these suits, well, produced faster? I'm kind of in the middle of a war with Kreynoria, and, well, need them soon. This is not a demand, merely a humble request.


The Dual Monarchy of Sparta Dominion
Southeastasia
28-11-2005, 11:00
OOC: Mac, have you considered of making Kriegzimmer go public? Because it seems that part of the successes of DMG Military Industries is that it is a publicly-traded company. Maybe you can make two people play at that game?
Yurka
28-11-2005, 15:45
To: Kriegzimmer

The Eternal Empire of Yurka is pleased to see your selection, but at this time would only like to purchase some of your infantry weaponry. Due to an unforeseen problem with our latest model, we will require 2 million Hali-21 Assault Rifles, for a total of 6 Billion USD.

We will wire the money once you confirm our order. We would be extremely pleased if you could possibly get this order done as soon as possible. Thankyou in advance for what appears to be a superb firearm in it's own right.


Sincerely,
Servant of the Empire,
Secretary to Military Finance,
Alia Yurka III
The Macabees
28-11-2005, 18:14
In that case, the Zanzii Navy would like to place an order for thirty six (36) each of your Carrier Battle Groups and your Submersible packages to fully equip our standing navy. This comes to a total of $2,217,420,000,000; payable either in full now our over the course of many years, whichever better suits you.

Bob Holtz, Zanzii Minister for Defense

To: Bob Holtz, Zanziik

Welcome back to Kriegzimmer, I hope that the army produced by the conglomerate turned out to be up to your expectations. Regardless, we're happy you have turned to us for part of your navy as well and the order for thirty six carrier battle groups and submergible packages has been approved, although understandably it's a huge order and may take some time to complete. If you would like Zanziik can pay over the years since that's how the ships will arrive, and so you can expect three battlegroups per annum and six submergible packages a year, meaning the battlegroups will finish in thirteen years [say, 13 days] and the submergible packages within six. We hope that this is expedient enough. Thank you for the purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


To: Kriegzimmer
From: Imperial Ordance (Religious Imperium of Jagada)

Greetings,

I do hope the recent conflict between our two nations hasn't shaken your resolve to make a profit, and exploit this war. You are our supplier and as such we would like to keep good relations with you.

The Religious Imperium would like to buy the production rights to following equipment:

-155mm Incinerator Rapid Fire Artillery
-155mm Carbulo
-Wolervine LBT
-Your former Main Battle Tank (the one you had prior to the Cougar)
-The Cougar MBT

I do hope you can prehaps arrange some price for each of these and reply as soon as possible.

Thank you.


To: Jagada

We have only once rejected a purchase and that was under an extreme case. Our company policies do not follow that of the Empire which houses us and we are willing to dislocate ourselves from the Empire should Fedor I feel the need to close us; we feel no loyalty to no one. Therefore, we're glad to take your order and ship it, openly, under the noses of the administration. As for the production rights to that stated it should come to around 175 billion USD. We hope that this price is correct and we are willing to negotiate. Thank you for the purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


I don't mean to bug you, flame you, or anything else, but is there a way that I can have these suits, well, produced faster? I'm kind of in the middle of a war with Kreynoria, and, well, need them soon. This is not a demand, merely a humble request.


The Dual Monarchy of Sparta Dominion


To: The Dual Monarchy of Sparta Dominion

Unfortunately, for both of us, our production is limited by the number of factories, the number of customers and the political backdrop at home. For the last, the Empire itself is embroiled in a war of succession teetering on the edge of world war if all goes wrong, and therefore most of our production is directed towards the need of the home Ejermacht; but, we may be able to work something out. Pardon for our seeming ignorance, but can you restate the order and the time stated for arrival? Kriegzimmer will get back to you on the velocity of the order. Thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


OOC: Mac, have you considered of making Kriegzimmer go public? Because it seems that part of the successes of DMG Military Industries is that it is a publicly-traded company. Maybe you can make two people play at that game?


[OOC: Well, technically, it is a pubicly traded company although not in the form of a RP; that's how Kriegzimmer became Kriegzimmer. It was originally a submunitions company founded by the grandfather of Dietrich Harbinger, owner [not CEO] of the conglomerate, and it slowly began to goble up competition as the Macabee Kingdom finished off one realm at a time, ending the Great Civil War in 1905 or abouts, and some years later Kriegzimmer ate all other home armaments companies becoming the only monopoly in the Empire. There was an RP based on Harbinger's attempt to form some sort of economical terrorist and elitist group bent on taking the world through economic force, but nobody joined and I decided to scrap it; I might restart it later. But, what does DMG do? As far as I've seen 3/4 of the post on his storefront are bumps, no offense meant to him.]


To: Kriegzimmer

The Eternal Empire of Yurka is pleased to see your selection, but at this time would only like to purchase some of your infantry weaponry. Due to an unforeseen problem with our latest model, we will require 2 million Hali-21 Assault Rifles, for a total of 6 Billion USD.

We will wire the money once you confirm our order. We would be extremely pleased if you could possibly get this order done as soon as possible. Thankyou in advance for what appears to be a superb firearm in it's own right.


Sincerely,
Servant of the Empire,
Secretary to Military Finance,
Alia Yurka III


To: Alia Yurka III, Yurka

Welcome to Kriegzimmer, first of all. We aren't sure what to call you, so apologies for the disrespect, but may we call you Your Majesty? Regardless, the order has been confirmed and the two million rifles can be produced, assembled and sent within four months. If that is not expedient enough then we can work something out, like we are attempting with the Spartan Dominion. Thank you for your order and thank you for the kind words about our rifle.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
HailandKill
28-11-2005, 18:20
[OOC:

I can't be online or AIM now since i'm in school, but I want to ask again, if you want to design a new assault rifle geared towards elite soldiers.

Oh, and my fuckin' C-drive palette on my mom's laptop fell or broke or some shit like that and thats why I have been away from AIM. We can hopefully talk over that tonight but I figured I might as well tell you where I have/haven't been.

Oh, and check my post on Passion Play, I think I got those rebels beat.]
HailandKill
28-11-2005, 18:23
[OOC:

I can't be online or AIM now since i'm in school, but I want to ask again, if you want to design a new assault rifle geared towards elite soldiers.

Oh, and my fuckin' C-drive palette on my mom's laptop fell or broke or some shit like that and thats why I have been away from AIM. We can hopefully talk over that tonight but I figured I might as well tell you where I have/haven't been.

Oh, and check my post on Passion Play, I think I got those rebels beat.]
Yurka
28-11-2005, 21:59
To: Kriegzimmer

That title is much appreciated, and I for one thank you for the decorum shown by your company. Four months should be quite enough time, and the money will be wired immediately. We will more than likely be ordering from you soon.


Sincerely,
Servant of the Empire,
Secretary to Military Finance,
Alia Yurka III
Zanziik
28-11-2005, 22:22
The Divided Territories would like to thank Kriegzimmer for it's excellent service, and to further prove our thanks, would like to place yet another sizable order. We require 225,000 of your SOV-06 IFVs, coming to a grand total of $1,012,500,000,000; we hope that this order is acceptable, and look forward to once again doing business with your fine organization.

Bob Holtz, Zanzii Minister for Defense
Halberdgardia
28-11-2005, 23:07
In the interest of replacing aging U.S. helicopter models in our air force with newer, more advanced weaponry, we would like to purchase production rights to the RoLu-17 Galicia Attack Helicopter. Payment will be automatically wired upon confirmation.
Sparta Dominion
29-11-2005, 03:02
That is fine with as. We thank Kreigzimmer for considering the speeding up, and will pay for any hardships it might cause.

Sincerely,
Sparta Dominion
Jagada
29-11-2005, 05:06
To: Jagada

We have only once rejected a purchase and that was under an extreme case. Our company policies do not follow that of the Empire which houses us and we are willing to dislocate ourselves from the Empire should Fedor I feel the need to close us; we feel no loyalty to no one. Therefore, we're glad to take your order and ship it, openly, under the noses of the administration. As for the production rights to that stated it should come to around 175 billion USD. We hope that this price is correct and we are willing to negotiate. Thank you for the purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

From: Imperial Ordance

Excellent, I'm glad to see are so willing to put profit before government. As such your price is agreed upon. I wish you the best of luck in maintaining operations in the current climate of the Macabee homelands. Should Fedor ever seek to boot you for assisting us, consider yourself welcome to open shop in Jagada. Or should, in the worst case scenario possible, find the Weiger Rebels control of the Golden Throne to be intolerable. We'd be more than happy to assist you in removing them or helping you relocate to another nation.

Again, thank you.
Spizania
29-11-2005, 21:07
OOC: Could you tell me the fire rate for the 30" guns you mount on the Zealous?

The Confederate States of Spizania would like to order five Indestructable Class Carriers, despite the fact that we are in possesion of the production rights, with the massive expansion of the fleet we do not have sufficient slip space to build them ourselves at this time.
Money shall be wired on confirmation
Halberdgardia
29-11-2005, 23:09
In addition to our previous order for production rights to the RoLu-17 Galicia Attack Helicopter, we wish to expand our anti-shipping assets, in anticipation of a possible upcoming naval conflict. Consequently, we desire one hundred Tenerife-class SSHs, as well as the production rights to the Principe III Anti-Shipping Missile/Torpedo, the MT-3 MADCAP, and the Shockhound Avenger I Anti-Shipping Torpedo, and the Sledgehammer Anti-Shipping/Anti-Superdreadnaught Missile. The requisite funds will be wired automatically upon confirmation.
McKagan
30-11-2005, 01:01
Because we want to be able to point at our friends in Halberdgardia and say "ours is bigger!," we would like to place an order for one hundred and fifty Tenerife Class SSH's.

In all seriousness, though, we do need more missile types on our various Guided Missile things. Because of this, we feel we should order the production rights for your Principe III missile.
The Macabees
30-11-2005, 01:12
The Divided Territories would like to thank Kriegzimmer for it's excellent service, and to further prove our thanks, would like to place yet another sizable order. We require 225,000 of your SOV-06 IFVs, coming to a grand total of $1,012,500,000,000; we hope that this order is acceptable, and look forward to once again doing business with your fine organization.

Bob Holtz, Zanzii Minister for Defense

To: Bob Holtz, The Republic of Zanziik

Welcome back to Kriegzimmer, and we are honored to provide Zanziik with its military needs. The new order, just like the last, has been confirmed. That means that the two hundred and twenty-five thousand SOV-06 IFVs will be sent in batches of one thousand per month. It was, truly, a huge order, and unfortunately with other orders and national needs we can't increase the productivity - the order will be completed in exactly 18.75 years. Nonetheless, the SOV-06 will likely stay in service for the next thirty to fifty years within your military and so you're still not at a loss. We are going to attempt to double productivity by pulling some strings within Dienstad, where most of the vehicle production is, meaning we might be able to finish off the order in nine years. The more likely case is the latter, but 18.75 is the safest estimate - although, again, at two thousand a month we think we can pull it off in nine years. Regardless, thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


In the interest of replacing aging U.S. helicopter models in our air force with newer, more advanced weaponry, we would like to purchase production rights to the RoLu-17 Galicia Attack Helicopter. Payment will be automatically wired upon confirmation.

In addition to our previous order for production rights to the RoLu-17 Galicia Attack Helicopter, we wish to expand our anti-shipping assets, in anticipation of a possible upcoming naval conflict. Consequently, we desire one hundred Tenerife-class SSHs, as well as the production rights to the Principe III Anti-Shipping Missile/Torpedo, the MT-3 MADCAP, and the Shockhound Avenger I Anti-Shipping Torpedo, and the Sledgehammer Anti-Shipping/Anti-Superdreadnaught Missile. The requisite funds will be wired automatically upon confirmation.


To: The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

We're glad that you have chosen to replace your U.S. model military helicopters with the RoLu-17 and will reinforce the argument for the Galicia, which is in service within the national military as well. The production rights for the Galicia can be set up at 20 billion. As for the Tenerifes they will be fully completed and sent to your home ports within three to four years mininum - five maximum. The production rights to the Principe III can be put at one billion, and the other missiles at a total of three billion altogether, for a grand total of four billion. The MT-3 won't be sold since it would be robbery. We are preparing at this moment for the release of three new torpedoes, and the Av.36 would be the replacement to the MT-3 so we will sell you this in advance for three billion USD. We hope that these prices are reasonable. Thank you for yet another purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The Confederate States of Spizania would like to order five Indestructable Class Carriers, despite the fact that we are in possesion of the production rights, with the massive expansion of the fleet we do not have sufficient slip space to build them ourselves at this time.
Money shall be wired on confirmation


[OoC: I would say the rate of fire for the 30" guns on the Zealous is about two to three shells per minute, max; I don't know if even that is reasonable. Now that you mention it I'm thinking of droping the calibre to 24", since 30" actually render less potential than the 24".]

To: The Confederate States of Spizania

Your order has been confirmed and the five will be fully capable and sent to you within a total of four years. Thank you for yet another order with Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

Edited with McKagan's Order:


Because we want to be able to point at our friends in Halberdgardia and say "ours is bigger!," we would like to place an order for one hundred and fifty Tenerife Class SSH's.

In all seriousness, though, we do need more missile types on our various Guided Missile things. Because of this, we feel we should order the production rights for your Principe III missile.


To: McKagan

Although you two are allies we feel it's best for us to shut our mouths and simply profit [hehe]; we will confirm this and the one hundred and fifty submarines will be fully ready and transferred to you within five to six years. Thank you for the order. The rights to the Principe III have also been granted for one billion USD.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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Global Opportunity
Kriegzimmer, with production problems with the sheer sizes of orders these days, has decided to put out advertisement for the purchase of up to pieces of land one hundred by one hundred kilometers in dimensions for the establishment of new factories. Apart from the purchase of the land governments can take advantage of the employment opportunity, especially when Kriegzimmer pays the same amount of wages it does at home, or the mininum wage of the government in question if it is above the wage of Kriegzimmer, which is doubted, but can happen [a starting worker at Kriegzimmer gets 8 Reichmarks an hour, which is over 10 dollars an hour]. If a government it interested please write an official transmission to Kriegzimmer.
The Macabees
30-11-2005, 01:16
Av.36 Hammerhead MADCAP Heavy Weight Torpedo
http://modernwarstudies.net/Lineart/Av36.gif

Description: The Hammerhead is a Most Advanced CAPabilities heavy weight torpedo designed to outpreform both the Mk48 and the Spearfish, and to provide the Krierarmada with a torpedo to give it the power to engage the designs of the world with similarly powerful torpedoes. The Hammerhead includes a series of upgrades over the MT-3 Torpedo which makes it faster, more accurate, and overall more effective than its predecessor. The Av.36 incorporates two major sensor system, the Common Broadband Advanced Sonar System [CBASS] and the High Resolution Torpedo Array [HRTA]. The CBASS system is expected to give extended preformance to the torpedo's sonar array, including extended range and improved accuracy, while the HRTA is an ultra-modern sensor array composed of fiber optic data feed and a combination of acoustic feed. This will make the torpedo dynamic, meaning it will change in quick situations, and the torpedo can act as a fire and forget missile, although it does have wire guidance. Although the torpedo has a wake its water ramjet engine also makes it extremely silent, and extremely fast at the same time. This gives the Hammerhead a Low Probability of Intercept [LPI] and a Low Probability of Recognition [LPR].
Torpedo Warhead: The Av. 36 has a multi-mode detonation 295kg warhead, offering a bulk charge and a direction explosion improving the lethality of the warhead
Length: 8 meters
Diameter: .55 meters
Weight: 1702.9 kilograms
Propulsion: Water Ramjet
Range: 50 Nautical Miles
Velocity: 90 knots
Depth: 914 meters
Cost: $5.5 Million






Av.17 'Tiburon' Light Weight Torpedo
Pic to come later...

Description: The Tiburon is the new generation Light Weight torpedo courtesy of the Kriegzimmer Conglomerate offering a lighter sister design to the Hammerhead. It will also have the advantage of being quieter, although it will suffer some in the area of maximum velocity. Nonetheless, it's equipped with a similar and yet powerful sensor array including a Common Broadband Advance Sonar System and a blue-green foward and side looking ladar system, all of which is tied in through fiberobtic datafeed. The Tiburon, like late Russian torpedoes, can also home on the submarine's wake, making it a lot less dependent on its sensor system as other torpedoes are. The Tiburon also has a low probability of recognition and low probability of intercept, which is even greater than that on the Hammerhead. It should also prove to be quite useful for use on LAMPS, the primary user, as well as on aircraft.
Torpedo Warhead: 56kg
Length: 4.3
Diameter: .32
Weight: 354kg
Propulsion: Intergrated Motor Propulsion [IMP] electric engine
Range: 30nm
Velocity: 40 knots
Depth: 650m
Cost: $3.2 Million






Av.93 'Calisto' Super Cavitation Torpedo

Description: The Calisto is the new generation supercavitational torpedo used by the Kriegarmada, designed to be fired from VLS tubes, saving the Kriegarmada from the cost of refitting the entire submarine fleet. The torpedo itself is coned shaped like the Shkval and is released in a long cylindrical tube. The tube is designed for the top of break off and float to the surface and to be lined with two rails and a 300 volt battery in the back replacing a 'motor'. These two rails release the Calisto electromagnetically putting it into the water at 3 knots allowing the Calisto to successfully ignite the engine which is a aluminum burning water ramjet. It can also be fired from a conventional torpedo tube, just like the Shkval; but the inventine VLS tube comes in handy when the SSN is carrying both Av.36s and Av.93.
Warhead: 201 kgs.
Length: 9 meters
Diameter: .55 meters
Weight: 2572.4 kilograms
Propulsion: Water Ramjet
Range: 10 Nautical Miles
Velocity: 200 knots
Depth: 400 meters
Cost: $9.2 Million
McKagan
30-11-2005, 01:44
To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: McKagan Commerce Department
Subject: Re: Factory in McKagan

Greetings,

In the past we have noted the great similarities between the McKagan Government and multiple entity's in your nation. Namely, Kriegzimmer. We both believe in free trade, and we both believe that corporation ultimately does good for the world.

That said, New Miami is recognized as one of the primier industrial zones in McKagan. Just last month a new defense contractor opened a submarine yard there, and many arms manufacturing plans already exist. With it's seafront position, vast infratructure and almost limitless room for expansion, it make New Miami one of the most prospurous areas in the nation. The City, which owns the land that isn't occupied at this time, is willing to sell ANY amount of land to the corporation deems needed.
Halberdgardia
30-11-2005, 02:02
To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: Brian Monahan, Secretary of Commerce, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: "Global Opportunity" Project

I recently received news of Kriegzimmer's ambitious "Global Opportunity" Project. It is with great enthusiasm that we receive such a proposal from one of the leading corporations of our ally of the Empire of the Golden Throne. In order to strengthen the economic ties between our two nations, we are pleased to offer Kriegzimmer the use of several factories on plots of land in not only the Halberdgardian mainland, but Halberdgardian colonies as well, including Saharistan, Rovonia, Algeristan, and Veritas [OOC: Veritas is my colony in Hog's colony world]. We hope that Kriegzimmer finds this acceptable, and we both find this arrangement mutually beneficial. I look forward to hearing back from the Kriegzimmer Board.

Respectfully,
Brian Monahan
Secretary of Commerce
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Zanziik
30-11-2005, 02:06
[ooc: *sigh* Well, I just created a puppet only to find that it's name was taken on the forums but not NS... I'll be RPing as Zanziik and Doomsia on this name from now on, which pretains to this...]

To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: Doomsian Lord of Commerce, Qurevall Yors
Subject: Re: Factory in Doomsia

We have recently realized that your company has offered to expand into foreign nations. We believe that our two parties could benefit each other. We have a 5.07% unemployment rate, totalling 253,500 people of working age. You need employees and a suitable place to house new industry. We can cater to your needs if you cater to ours.
Hurtful Thoughts
30-11-2005, 02:12
The PROHT Navy, would like a form of SSM that doesn't get shot out of the sky before they have a chance to do their work. PROHT has even been desprate enough to develop a SCT that jumps out of the water for a large duration of the jouney to their targets, but alas, they still lack range when compared to modern long range cruise missiles. But, when compared to the damage of most other torpedoes, even SCTs it outperforms them by a considerable margin.

Then we were informed that you sell a weapon that does almost the same thing and does it much better (although a little more expensive).

The PROHT Coastal Defense Flotilla would like to purchase the ability to make the Principe III for domestic use only, for $1.5 Billion, and would humbly request that we be allowed to refit better (indiginous) torpedoes on them during production.
Corzia
30-11-2005, 05:55
Corzia would like to extend an invitation to Kriegzimmer to build facilities on our great land. We are able to boast about our low taxes, trade tariffs and a peacefull nation (our last war was over 50 years ago, no joke).
In addition to wooing your board, we are also placing an order. We request the production rights to the Kriermada Torpedo Technology.
Flightopia
30-11-2005, 06:39
The Flightopian Military resquests the following:

5 Argentine class Galleons to be named, Spear-Class SD Hunter-Killers

150 Paramount class Air Defense Vessels to be named, Shield-Class Air Defense Vessels

Total Payment: 755 Billion, to be delivered on conformation.
HailandKill
30-11-2005, 16:56
[OOC: You never stop finding ways to extend influence and whore yourself out do you Mac?]

TO: Kriegzimmer Corporation
FROM: Joint Chiefs, HailandKill
CONCERNING: Land oppurtunities

As we usually like to develop weapons with your company, and as a major purchaser of your arms, we find the oppurtunity to have your company factories on our homeland a very interesting proposition. With direct permission from the president himself, we offer large amount of land to be used for your corporations factories on our homeland. This direct link of your products to our homeland will be quick, effiecient and well worth the time. As we also have factories for our own arms needs, we propose that Kreigzimmer, and HailandKill Arms work side by side in production needs; basically, we will produce the objects we have production rights to, and Kreigzimmer produces the objects we order. But we have an idea we would like to propose, which is that Kriegzimmer can help us produce weapons we have production rights to alongside HK arms, for a commision price to Kriegzimmer. Under this idea HailandKill can double its output of weapons and increase speed and efficiently. We look forward for a response.

[Signed]Joint Cheifs of Staff, HailandKill
Spizania
30-11-2005, 18:21
The Confederate States of Spizania wishes to make aware that it is willing ot sell a plot of land that meets your specifications, the land is in the state of Thelania on the east coast of the Nation, twenty kilometres outside the States capital of Theed, next to the Main Confederate Arms Production facility, this ensures that there is the neccesary educational base for the factory. We hope this will lead to a time of increased prosperity.

OOC: I see yo uput me in you Wiki article :) Im going to have to get one myself.
The Macabees
30-11-2005, 18:35
To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: McKagan Commerce Department
Subject: Re: Factory in McKagan

Greetings,

In the past we have noted the great similarities between the McKagan Government and multiple entity's in your nation. Namely, Kriegzimmer. We both believe in free trade, and we both believe that corporation ultimately does good for the world.

That said, New Miami is recognized as one of the primier industrial zones in McKagan. Just last month a new defense contractor opened a submarine yard there, and many arms manufacturing plans already exist. With it's seafront position, vast infratructure and almost limitless room for expansion, it make New Miami one of the most prospurous areas in the nation. The City, which owns the land that isn't occupied at this time, is willing to sell ANY amount of land to the corporation deems needed.

To: McKagan Commerce Department

Thank you for your reply, it is greatly appreciated. Indeed, the similarities between economies of our two home nations are just too good to avoid and so we will take you up on your offer for prime land near New Miami. Assuming this is coastal territory we would be willing to pay prime for this - $7100 Reichmarks a square meter . So, for a strip 50 kilometers long and 2 kilometers wide, or 100 square kilometers, translating to 100,000 square meters, it would be purchased for $710,000,000 [710 million] Reichmarks, and then a subsequent rent price of $50,000,000 per year, with the additional rent that all naval orders by McKagan's military are also half off. This rent is to last 99 years with offer of renewal or full purchase at that time.

Assuming that this breach of land will be agreed on, regardless on the ultimate price, it would be occupied by gigantic warehouses and even larger shipyards. It is to say, distributed amongst all available shipyards you could claim a Elusive class Battleship built within three months [assuming I can built, say, 100 at a time...each takes two years, that's actually twenty-four days...but three months is more believable]. This should be ample enough for a massive burst in the productivity of ship building and orders will take maybe even half the time it took before, with double the potential clientel.

So, McKagan should profit from this immensely, with almost a billion Reichmarks to begin with, and then fifty million per year after that, and then half off their own naval orders, and finally, employment for tens of thousands of citizens - all in all, it should be a massive boost to McKagan's economy. Hopefully, McKagan will agree to the above described prices and such - we await your reply. We're sure we can work something out.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: Brian Monahan, Secretary of Commerce, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: "Global Opportunity" Project

I recently received news of Kriegzimmer's ambitious "Global Opportunity" Project. It is with great enthusiasm that we receive such a proposal from one of the leading corporations of our ally of the Empire of the Golden Throne. In order to strengthen the economic ties between our two nations, we are pleased to offer Kriegzimmer the use of several factories on plots of land in not only the Halberdgardian mainland, but Halberdgardian colonies as well, including Saharistan, Rovonia, Algeristan, and Veritas [OOC: Veritas is my colony in Hog's colony world]. We hope that Kriegzimmer finds this acceptable, and we both find this arrangement mutually beneficial. I look forward to hearing back from the Kriegzimmer Board.

Respectfully,
Brian Monahan
Secretary of Commerce
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia


To: Brian Monahan, Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

We have two primary interests in the above stated land claims by Halberdgardia, and that amounts to Saharistan and Veritas, your mainland being off limits because we much rather station factories will there will not be potential enviromental laws which can hamper productivity, and consequently, are business. Nonetheless, it shouldn't be an issue with your government, although understandably, real estate in the colonies [i]is cheaper.

Specifically, we're looking for a coastal slot of two kilometers by half a kilometer for an artificial port to export materials from industrial polygons which would be more or less inland. For that we offer $7100 Reichmarks, for a total of 7.1 Million Reichmarks. Then, we're looking for two slots of land 100x100kms in both the territories of Saharistan and Veritas at $4000 Reichmarks a square meter, or a total of 80 Billion + 7.1 million, for 80,007,100,000 Reichmarks total, with a rent price of 20 million per year per area, so a total of 40 million per year, with all future purchases at half off [technically, it's now cheaper to produce and export for you].

Hopefully, this can be worked out. We await your reply eagerly!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Boad


To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: Doomsian Lord of Commerce, Qurevall Yors
Subject: Re: Factory in Doomsia

We have recently realized that your company has offered to expand into foreign nations. We believe that our two parties could benefit each other. We have a 5.07% unemployment rate, totalling 253,500 people of working age. You need employees and a suitable place to house new industry. We can cater to your needs if you cater to ours.


To: Doomsia

Prior to any business arrangements we are concerned about the relative safety of our factories in Doomsia, especially with the 'cleansing' of the country at the hands of Zanziik. Perhaps you can filter a bit more information on the situation to us before we make a final agreement?

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The PROHT Navy, would like a form of SSM that doesn't get shot out of the sky before they have a chance to do their work. PROHT has even been desprate enough to develop a SCT that jumps out of the water for a large duration of the jouney to their targets, but alas, they still lack range when compared to modern long range cruise missiles. But, when compared to the damage of most other torpedoes, even SCTs it outperforms them by a considerable margin.

Then we were informed that you sell a weapon that does almost the same thing and does it much better (although a little more expensive).

The PROHT Coastal Defense Flotilla would like to purchase the ability to make the Principe III for domestic use only, for $1.5 Billion, and would humbly request that we be allowed to refit better (indiginous) torpedoes on them during production.


To: PR of Hurtful Thoughs

We're happy that you chose the Principe III, although really, it's almost the only choice in the international market. The production rights have been confirmed for the price stated, and what we suggest is depending on the width of your indigenous torpedoes you either make smaller the width of the torpedo, or larger if the torpedo is larger, and you extend the fuel compartment if the torpedo is larger and heavier. Nonetheless, we're releasing a new design in a couple of months which is to replace the Principe III; at that point all previous cliens of the Principe III, including yourself, will be offered the production rights for only a billion, which would be around a fourth of the original price. However, the Principe III should be a good purchase until then since the release date for the new missile is not guaranteed, as we don't even have a name for it!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Corzia would like to extend an invitation to Kriegzimmer to build facilities on our great land. We are able to boast about our low taxes, trade tariffs and a peacefull nation (our last war was over 50 years ago, no joke).
In addition to wooing your board, we are also placing an order. We request the production rights to the Kriermada Torpedo Technology.


To: Corzia

Yes, we are deeply interested in building within business friendly Corzia. First, the order for the torpedoes has been confirmed at three billion USD. Second, we're looking for the same deal as with Halberdgardia, except half as much. It is to say, 2 x 1 for coastal arrangments and 100 x 100kms for an inland factory polygon, for a total of 40,007,100,000 Reichmarks and a rent of 20 million per year, and all purchases are half off. Hopefully, your administration will agree with the provisions.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The Flightopian Military resquests the following:

5 Argentine class Galleons to be named, Spear-Class SD Hunter-Killers

150 Paramount class Air Defense Vessels to be named, Shield-Class Air Defense Vessels

Total Payment: 755 Billion, to be delivered on conformation.


To: Flightopian Military

Welcome to Kriegzimmer. The five Argentines, to be renamed, and the one hundred and fifty Paramous, also to be renamed by your navy, have been confirmed. The five Argentines should arrive within four years, while the Paramounts within five years. Thank you for the order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


TO: Kriegzimmer Corporation
FROM: Joint Chiefs, HailandKill
CONCERNING: Land oppurtunities

As we usually like to develop weapons with your company, and as a major purchaser of your arms, we find the oppurtunity to have your company factories on our homeland a very interesting proposition. With direct permission from the president himself, we offer large amount of land to be used for your corporations factories on our homeland. This direct link of your products to our homeland will be quick, effiecient and well worth the time. As we also have factories for our own arms needs, we propose that Kreigzimmer, and HailandKill Arms work side by side in production needs; basically, we will produce the objects we have production rights to, and Kreigzimmer produces the objects we order. But we have an idea we would like to propose, which is that Kriegzimmer can help us produce weapons we have production rights to alongside HK arms, for a commision price to Kriegzimmer. Under this idea HailandKill can double its output of weapons and increase speed and efficiently. We look forward for a response.

[Signed]Joint Cheifs of Staff, HailandKill


[[b]OOC: :p ]

To: Joint Cheifs of Staff, Hailandkill

We will take your offer and up it. Kriegzimmer offers your own military armaments industry a new joint project in which the factory number on land would be tripled using money from Kriegzimmer. Employment would be paid by Hailandkill, as opposed to Kriegzimmer, but Hailandkill will received 90% of the profits from the sales produced in Hailandkill, which will be recored instananously and mechanically. [OOCly, this would be impossible to keep track of, but you can assume a boost in the economy.] So, we would triple the output of the country, perhaps boost Kriegzimmer production by 75% to 150%, cost Kriegzimmer very little, give a boost to the Hailandkill economy through armament exports and employment possibilities, and all in all make all parties happy. Now, Kriegzimmer does require that it set the quotas on production since exportation coordination is still being done in Macabea, Dienstad, and it requires no government restrictions on export quotas, although most other government restrictions are fine, since stuff like employment is not going to be handled by Kriegzimmer anyways, at least in this case.

We await your reply.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



The Confederate States of Spizania wishes to make aware that it is willing ot sell a plot of land that meets your specifications, the land is in the state of Thelania on the east coast of the Nation, twenty kilometres outside the States capital of Theed, next to the Main Confederate Arms Production facility, this ensures that there is the neccesary educational base for the factory. We hope this will lead to a time of increased prosperity.


To: Spizania

We're happy that other allies have stepped up. Since you seem to have your land distribution down very well how many square kilometers of coastal territory are your willing to sell in exchange for $7100 Reichmarks per square meter? This would be fully a naval shipyard production facility and Spizania would receive 50% off all naval shipments.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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[OOC: Ok, no more..I'm going to go broke. :p I've just expanded possible industry by at least 400% land and aerial wise and 200% naval wise; that should be enough for now...depending on future business I may put out another request.]
Spizania
30-11-2005, 18:48
OOC: How much do you need, i have upto 300 square kilometres in that area to spare? You get to watch CSS Vainglorious become a new Fast Dreadnaught testbed about 2km away
McKagan
30-11-2005, 22:29
To: McKagan Commerce Department

Thank you for your reply, it is greatly appreciated. Indeed, the similarities between economies of our two home nations are just too good to avoid and so we will take you up on your offer for prime land near New Miami. Assuming this is coastal territory we would be willing to pay prime for this - $7100 Reichmarks a square meter [it's around $400 in central Madrid, which is rivals Paris and Manhattan]. So, for a strip 50 kilometers long and 2 kilometers wide, or 100 square kilometers, translating to 100,000 square meters, it would be purchased for $710,000,000 [710 million] Reichmarks, and then a subsequent rent price of $50,000,000 per year, with the additional rent that all naval orders by McKagan's military are also half off. This rent is to last 99 years with offer of renewal or full purchase at that time.

Assuming that this breach of land will be agreed on, regardless on the ultimate price, it would be occupied by gigantic warehouses and even larger shipyards. It is to say, distributed amongst all available shipyards you could claim a Elusive class Battleship built within three months [assuming I can built, say, 100 at a time...each takes two years, that's actually twenty-four days...but three months is more believable]. This should be ample enough for a massive burst in the productivity of ship building and orders will take maybe even half the time it took before, with double the potential clientel.

So, McKagan should profit from this immensely, with almost a billion Reichmarks to begin with, and then fifty million per year after that, and then half off their own naval orders, and finally, employment for tens of thousands of citizens - all in all, it should be a massive boost to McKagan's economy. Hopefully, McKagan will agree to the above described prices and such - we await your reply. We're sure we can work something out.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

This is more than a fair deal, and we accept it. We are also developing our share of the Frozopian Occupied Coastline, and it should be ready to begin industrialization in only a few years, although almost no infratructure survived IMAF's wrath during the war.
Corzia
30-11-2005, 23:45
We find this to be a fair deal and agree to your terms. Corzia is sure that you will find our workers capable at providing the best quality work for your company. Construction is suggested at the mainland city of Volograda and/or the island of Wendon.

[OOC: so are my orders 65% off or are we assuming just 50%?]
Halberdgardia
30-11-2005, 23:50
To: Brian Monahan, Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

We have two primary interests in the above stated land claims by Halberdgardia, and that amounts to Saharistan and Veritas, your mainland being off limits because we much rather station factories will there will not be potential enviromental laws which can hamper productivity, and consequently, are business. Nonetheless, it shouldn't be an issue with your government, although understandably, real estate in the colonies is cheaper.

Specifically, we're looking for a coastal slot of two kilometers by half a kilometer for an artificial port to export materials from industrial polygons which would be more or less inland. For that we offer $7100 Reichmarks, for a total of 7.1 Million Reichmarks. Then, we're looking for two slots of land 100x100kms in both the territories of Saharistan and Veritas at $4000 Reichmarks a square meter, or a total of 80 Billion + 7.1 million, for 80,007,100,000 Reichmarks total, with a rent price of 20 million per year per area, so a total of 40 million per year, with all future purchases at half off [technically, it's now cheaper to produce and export for you].

Hopefully, this can be worked out. We await your reply eagerly!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

To: Kriegzimmer Board
From: Brian Monahan, Secretary of Commerce, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: Factory Deal

I am pleased to inform you that your offer for land, worth a total of 80,007,100,000 Reichmarks, has been confirmed by the Halberdgardian government. The requested coastline plot will be located on Veritas, as our claim in Saharistan has no access to the sea. Your additional plots in Saharistan and Veritas have also been approved. We are most pleased to strengthen our ties with Kriegzimmer through this deal, and we look forward to many more years of fruitful relations with Kriegzimmer Corporation.

Respectfully,
Brian Monahan
Secretary of Commerce
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
The Macabees
01-12-2005, 00:30
[OoC: Just a flat 50% for those who got the offer [anybody who I purchased land off]. The new production facilities will be detailed on a new part of the first four posts on this thread with maps of where Kriegzimmer is located - a bit of a boasting area for the company.

Spizania, maybe 100 sq. km. like the naval shipyards at New Miami, in McKagan?]
Spizania
01-12-2005, 00:34
The confederate states of Spizania would like to inform you that the Theed City planning office has bought up and set aside a coastal strip of land 50km long and 2km wide for the use of Kriegzimmer, with road, rail, sea and air links already in place ot the adjacent Confederate Arms production yard we believe you cna start construction immediately. We await your agreement
McKagan
01-12-2005, 01:20
The IMN has already gone over the new found clause that allows us to grab Kriegzimmer Units at half price. We would like to boost our Super Dreadnaught Fleet, and have chosen the Zealous class to do so. However, because our Guided Missile Destroyer has proven so useful, we are only boosting our number by 7 more. This comes to 612.5 billion USD.
The Silver Sky
01-12-2005, 01:24
OOC: Hey, McKagan, how big exactly is you SD fleet?
McKagan
01-12-2005, 01:36
[OOC: Counting the ones I just bought: 15. Three of the ones from Bargain Basement, twelve of the ones from here. I've also got about 25 of Praetonia's Omega Class ships, but those aren't really SD's.]
The Macabees
01-12-2005, 02:24
The confederate states of Spizania would like to inform you that the Theed City planning office has bought up and set aside a coastal strip of land 50km long and 2km wide for the use of Kriegzimmer, with road, rail, sea and air links already in place ot the adjacent Confederate Arms production yard we believe you cna start construction immediately. We await your agreement

To: Spizania

The terms are really yours to lay out; as it is coastal land we offer you the same deal as all others, which can be renegociated by yourself if you'd like - that is, $7100 Reichmarks per square meter, and at that rate the cost of it would be exactly 710 million USD, with a 40 million per year rent for 99 years, with the ability to be renewed. Hopefully this is agreeable and we can begin the construction of the facilities immediately. Thank you for your continued interest.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The IMN has already gone over the new found clause that allows us to grab Kriegzimmer Units at half price. We would like to boost our Super Dreadnaught Fleet, and have chosen the Zealous class to do so. However, because our Guided Missile Destroyer has proven so useful, we are only boosting our number by 7 more. This comes to 612.5 billion USD.


To: The Imperial McKagan Navy

The same clause does state that it would come into effect when production at our new facilities would begin, which unfortunately won't be for another expected two years. Nonetheless, under normal circumstances you would expect these SDs to come within six years, while if you wait for two years you could most likely expect them two years and a half later, since both ships would be built simultaneously at the shipyards within your country. Meaning, you would get the 50% discount and actually have less wait time since we can alot the shipyards in New Miami to only build your super dreadnoughts - we have the luxury of doing that now. Hopefully, this is alright to McKagan.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
01-12-2005, 02:51
[Response]
The wait is fine, and somewhat expected. In the meantime, we will be doing everything we can to ensure the factories are built on time.
HailandKill
01-12-2005, 17:29
To: Joint Cheifs of Staff, Hailandkill

We will take your offer and up it. Kriegzimmer offers your own military armaments industry a new joint project in which the factory number on land would be tripled using money from Kriegzimmer. Employment would be paid by Hailandkill, as opposed to Kriegzimmer, but Hailandkill will received 90% of the profits from the sales produced in Hailandkill, which will be recored instananously and mechanically. [OOCly, this would be impossible to keep track of, but you can assume a boost in the economy.] So, we would triple the output of the country, perhaps boost Kriegzimmer production by 75% to 150%, cost Kriegzimmer very little, give a boost to the Hailandkill economy through armament exports and employment possibilities, and all in all make all parties happy. Now, Kriegzimmer does require that it set the quotas on production since exportation coordination is still being done in Macabea, Dienstad, and it requires no government restrictions on export quotas, although most other government restrictions are fine, since stuff like employment is not going to be handled by Kriegzimmer anyways, at least in this case.

We await your reply.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

From: Joint Chiefs of Staff, HailandKill
To: Kriegzimmer
Re: Land oportunity

The greatness of this deal is overwhelming to us. We will take up this offer with the utmost of haste. We would like to thank Kriegzimmer for its abundant generosity, and look forward to dealings in the future. We will definatly meet your specific quotas of production. Thank you for this wonderful offer.

We would also like to put in the order for the production rights for the Ilium Class destroyer. We also would like eight Argetine Class SD destroyers, and the production rights to the Indestructable class carrier as well as the Cartagena SSN. All money has been wired.

[Signed]The Joint Chiefs of Staff

[OOC: So do I order shit through here still, or can I assume it was produced?]
Halberdgardia
02-12-2005, 00:28
[OOC: Question, Mac: can your Corzian Supergun (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9739272&postcount=595) be mounted on a railway system, like Civitas Americae's "Templar" railway gun? If so, I might buy some for the defense of Veritas; Truitt is getting very expansionistic in my general direction...]
The Macabees
02-12-2005, 02:38
From: Joint Chiefs of Staff, HailandKill
To: Kriegzimmer
Re: Land oportunity

The greatness of this deal is overwhelming to us. We will take up this offer with the utmost of haste. We would like to thank Kriegzimmer for its abundant generosity, and look forward to dealings in the future. We will definatly meet your specific quotas of production. Thank you for this wonderful offer.

We would also like to put in the order for the production rights for the Ilium Class destroyer. We also would like eight Argetine Class SD destroyers, and the production rights to the Indestructable class carrier as well as the Cartagena SSN. All money has been wired.

[Signed]The Joint Chiefs of Staff

[OOC: So do I order shit through here still, or can I assume it was produced?]

[OOC: Order it through here to bump up the thread with orders, but you can assume it automatically approved.]

To: Joint Chiefs of Staff, Hailandkill

The production project is welcomed by Kriegzimmer as well; it should prove valuable to the both of us. As for your newest orders, it has been confirmed for a total of 1.2 trillion [the production costs of the Argentine are supah-expensive, considering the cost of each individual ship], and they should be within your offices almost immediately. Thank you for your newest order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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EDIT:

Halb: I guess, if your train can take the weight and recoil.
Halberdgardia
02-12-2005, 04:24
Halb: I guess, if your train can take the weight and recoil.

[OOC: I don't suppose I could mount this on a maglev track? Or could I, if I had a maglev vehicle on which to place it? And do you have a rough idea of what size and weight such a vehicle would have to be to support the gun? (Maybe I should be posing this on the NS Draftroom...) My country's slowly replacing the standard-gauge rail -- on the mainland, anyways -- with maglev tracks. The colonies essentially have all maglev tracks, since they're smaller and have less rail to replace than the mainland.]
The Macabees
02-12-2005, 05:34
[OOC: I don't suppose I could mount this on a maglev track? Or could I, if I had a maglev vehicle on which to place it? And do you have a rough idea of what size and weight such a vehicle would have to be to support the gun? (Maybe I should be posing this on the NS Draftroom...) My country's slowly replacing the standard-gauge rail -- on the mainland, anyways -- with maglev tracks. The colonies essentially have all maglev tracks, since they're smaller and have less rail to replace than the mainland.]


[OOC: I actually use maglev trains everywhere except the colonies because I haven't had enough time or money, especially with the War of Golden Succession, to do so - but I prefer maglev tracks, although the expense is great, merely because of the velocities of the train - logistics are easier. But, I dunno how big the train would have to be to mount this gun. Even on the Paris gun, which was technically a rail gun, it had to be sent in pieces and then assembled at the spot, even though it was technically on rail tracks. So, I dunno. If I were you I would take it up at the NS Draftroom.]
Spizania
02-12-2005, 22:00
OOC: Ah mac, i know this might sound strange but could you develop a 155mm Diameter SAM and a beyond LOS ATGM (laser desginated maybe) please, it shoudl jsut be a quick half hour job, also could you TG me with the designs as there for a secret project
Roman Republic
02-12-2005, 22:09
We wish to purchase the production rights for the Sledgehammer Anti-Dreadnought Missile, if possible. We like the specifications, and hope it will defeat our enemies in the future. Is the missile able to fit or be carried all US aircraft and ships. For example: Ticonderoga Class Cruiser, B-52H bomber, F-15E Strike Eagle. If it is not possible to buy the production rights and the missiles can fit about all US aircraft and ships. We wish to 1000 missiles

Total: $1.5 billion
The Macabees
02-12-2005, 23:06
We wish to purchase the production rights for the Sledgehammer Anti-Dreadnought Missile, if possible. We like the specifications, and hope it will defeat our enemies in the future. Is the missile able to fit or be carried all US aircraft and ships. For example: Ticonderoga Class Cruiser, B-52H bomber, F-15E Strike Eagle. If it is not possible to buy the production rights and the missiles can fit about all US aircraft and ships. We wish to 1000 missiles

Total: $1.5 billion

To: The Roman Republic

Actually, production rights for the Sledgehammer are available and will be sold for the stated 1.5 billion USD. The missile can fit in the B-52H bomber, and can be fired from any VLS if said tube has the ability to adapt to any diameter missile. The F-15 could most likely carry it, but in low quantities, and on the outside weapon hardpoints. Any further information we will provide. Thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Macabees
02-12-2005, 23:07
GH-31 12.7mm High Power Sniper Rifle
Type: Heavy Calibre Sniper Rifle
Builder: Gerunt et Hiert
Abstract: The GH-31 sniper rifle was developed specifically for the Macabee special forces, made practical after the success of prototype rifles in the Operation Highborne, the opening attacks on Jagadan personnel in the Macabee-Jagadan colonial war. The rifle, being too expensive for standard infantry divisions up to now, may be widely used throughout the Golden Throne's military, despite its weight, simply because rifles need the extra punch to go through new battlesuits employed by certain nations, and even to get that extra range and lethality. Nonetheless, the GH-13 will remain the standard sniper rifle for standard armed personnel forces, including the mechanized divisions. The GH-31 employs several new and advance technologies which put it one step ahead of other sniper rifles in the same class. All in all, the GH-31 is a promising gun that will surely make it into the annals of gun history.
Operation: Short recoil, semi-automatic and manual.
Calibre: 12.7mm/.50 Cal armour piercing discarding sabot
Barrel Length: 7.42cm with a muzzle flash suppressor.
Overall Length: 117.23cm
Muzzle Velocity: 980m/s
Range: 2,300m
Magazine Capacity: 6 rounds
Weight: 8.5kg
Scope Technology: The scope is an all powerful digital optimizer using a charged coupled device [CCD]with a small computer chip which allows the operator to set different detection modes, including infra-red vision and electro-optical, with extremely accurate image rendering when zoom is used.
Ballistics: Using an optical ranging system the problems of long range precision fire have been lessened. The computer chip automatically detects air temperature, barometric pressure, and range, with the user specifying ammunition type. Range is detected through an automated range finder. The new ballistics suit also include a stabalization of the image through the scope
Recoil: To reduce the recoil of the round the GH-31 uses a multi-baffle muzzle break.
Accessories:
Bipod
Hardened Carrying Case [airborne operations]
Detachable Handle
Detachable Muzzle Break
Barrel Life: 1000 rounds
Cost: $9,000 USD
Production Rights: $70 million USD
Roman Republic
02-12-2005, 23:11
To: The Roman Republic

Actually, production rights for the Sledgehammer are available and will be sold for the stated 1.5 billion USD. The missile can fit in the B-52H bomber, and can be fired from any VLS if said tube has the ability to adapt to any diameter missile. The F-15 could most likely carry it, but in low quantities, and on the outside weapon hardpoints. Any further information we will provide. Thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

*Money wired from the Roman World Bank for $1.5 billion for the production rights*

Thank you giving us the infomation.
Halberdgardia
03-12-2005, 00:12
The Democratic Imperium finds itself requiring a pair a critical updates for its infantry forces: body armor, and a standard sniper rifle. Therefore, we wish to purchase production rights for both the BDU-64 "Samson" Battlesuit, as well as the new GH-31 12.7mm High Power Sniper Rifle. Payment will be automatically wired upon confirmation.
Corzia
03-12-2005, 05:38
Corzia would like to request the production rights to the GH-31 Sniper Rifle, BDU-64 Samson Battlesuit, Lu-45 Hawk, BE-23 and GLI-34. We are wondering if our discount also applies to production rights?

[OOC: Halb, isn't it just a kick-ass weapon? i call it the K-07 Magnolia A and B variants.
Mac, is the BE-27 and its variants ever going to be released? i was reading the old posts and was wondering why i had never seen one]
Sparta Dominion
03-12-2005, 16:37
Just wondering if Kriegzimmer can TG us whenever an order of combat suits arrives and how many. Thank you.
The Macabees
03-12-2005, 23:42
The Democratic Imperium finds itself requiring a pair a critical updates for its infantry forces: body armor, and a standard sniper rifle. Therefore, we wish to purchase production rights for both the BDU-64 "Samson" Battlesuit, as well as the new GH-31 12.7mm High Power Sniper Rifle. Payment will be automatically wired upon confirmation.

To: To the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

The order for the production rights of the BDU-64 and the GH-31 have been confirmed at what would be around a total of around seven hundred thousand USD. The production blueprints will be delivered to your joint chiefs of staff immediately with all secrecy in mind.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Corzia would like to request the production rights to the GH-31 Sniper Rifle, BDU-64 Samson Battlesuit, Lu-45 Hawk, BE-23 and GLI-34. We are wondering if our discount also applies to production rights?

[OOC: Halb, isn't it just a kick-ass weapon? i call it the K-07 Magnolia A and B variants.
Mac, is the BE-27 and its variants ever going to be released? i was reading the old posts and was wondering why i had never seen one]


[OOC: I forgot what the Be-27 was going to be. :( ]

To: Corzia

The discount that comes from having Kriegzimmer based off your territory goes through only individual units; production rights normally go for what it cost us to develope the weapon, and so no discount can be offered on that. Regardless, if you're still interested the entire order has been confirmed for sixty million USD. If this doesn't seem adequate we may work out a price.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Just wondering if Kriegzimmer can TG us whenever an order of combat suits arrives and how many. Thank you.


[OOC: Consider them there. In terms of storefront suppliance, the time is pretty much up. In other words, they're there.]
Corzia
04-12-2005, 00:47
[OOC:the BE-27 was going to be the lighter version of the BE-23, you said you had a gunship version planned as well as one that did in-flight refueling]

We understand your position and we will buy the production rights for the price you have put forth. In addition to producing the weapons at state factories, we are ordering:

1 000 Lu-45 Hawk's (6 000 000 000)
100 GLI-34's (1 250 000 000 000
20 BE-23's (1 900 000 000)

Our total should be USD 1 257 900 000 000.
The Macabees
04-12-2005, 20:24
[OOC:the BE-27 was going to be the lighter version of the BE-23, you said you had a gunship version planned as well as one that did in-flight refueling]

We understand your position and we will buy the production rights for the price you have put forth. In addition to producing the weapons at state factories, we are ordering:

1 000 Lu-45 Hawk's (6 000 000 000)
100 GLI-34's (1 250 000 000 000
20 BE-23's (1 900 000 000)

Our total should be USD 1 257 900 000 000.

[OOC: Then I'll get the Be-27/A up a.s.a.p. and the gunship version should come right after as the Be-27/B and the refueling aircraft up thereafter as the Be-27/C.]

To: The Allied States of Corzia

The order has been confirmed and Kriegzimmer is glad that everything with production rights has been worked out; although it is the company that should confirm to the customer, customer copperation always works as well! The one thousand Hawks will arrive within three months, with the GLI-34s arriving within one, and the Be-23s within one month. Thank you for the order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Corzia
05-12-2005, 03:19
An evaluation of the ACN revealed that it was greatly underpowered (with no standard SSN in service we felt like idiots). Ahem, we are ordering :

-60 Illium class Guided Missile Destroyers
-50 Cartagena SSN's
-10 Cadiz class SSBN's

Total (w/discount): USD 680 000 000 000

~Corzia~
The Macabees
07-12-2005, 23:29
An evaluation of the ACN revealed that it was greatly underpowered (with no standard SSN in service we felt like idiots). Ahem, we are ordering :

-60 Illium class Guided Missile Destroyers
-50 Cartagena SSN's
-10 Cadiz class SSBN's

Total (w/discount): USD 680 000 000 000

~Corzia~


To: Corzia

This order has been confirmed as well, and the sixty submarines of two types will be fully completed within two years, while the destroyers within four. Hopefully this should be a good time schedule; if not we can set further priorities. And, advance apologies for the long reply - the order has actually already begun.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Macabees
08-12-2005, 16:58
Lu-27 Condor Interceptor
The Condor was developed as a result of the rather harsh beating that came from Havenite [SafeHaven2] EB-9 Heavy Long Range Bombers, a New Empire design. Admittently the result was through a complex factorization of confusion within the Laerihans [Air Force] during the opening days of the Havenite invasion during the War of Golden Succession and the lack of enough advance air superiority fighters to really make an impression. For example, when the first two squadrons of Lu-45 Hawks flew on the second day of the Havenite bombing campaign and proved to be deadly. However, further pressuring for the release of the Empire's first interceptor came when the Civitan B-76 Bearcat and Halbergardia's XB-7 Peregrine were publicly released. The idea of thousands of high flying bombers with nuclear armaments, flying at velocities exceeding Mach 5, were just too much to bear, even with the very well established national defense surface to air missile batteries and the excellent air superiority fighter fleet within the Laerihans. Nonetheless, it was felt that it was imperative to release a hypersonic interceptor capable of being fielded in large numbers in order to counter act the ability for an enemy to do as such. Final prodding came at the hands of foreign clientel of Kriegzimmer who also demanded that such a product be made for their own airforce.

The requirements introduced were quite simple. They included a maximum velocity for the Condor of Mach 5.5, and more manueverability than their foe - hypersonic bombers. All the while, they would have to carry sufficient air to air armaments in the form of the AAM.176 beyond visual range air to air missiles designed by Kriegzimmer in sufficient numbers to be recognized as a threat.

The project had several obstacles to overcome ranging from monetary caps placed on the program which were frequently passed by the program engineers and technological as well. The single biggest problem was the design of the engine, although fortunately, in the end the Condor was given the ability to fly at over Mach 4. The second biggest problem was the airframe. During testing over Arras two prototypes of the aircraft simply incinerated in midflight during a simple turning manuever, and although a third flight survived the scars on the airframe were clearly visible forcing engineers to again rework the airframe. In fact, it took a full two years to design a working prototype, and a half a year to finalize the design for mass exportation. All taken into consideration, though, the end result was pleasing to the commanders of the Laerihans, and the Laerihans put in an order for a total of four thousand Lu-27s over a period of five years. Monetary costs came to a whooping fifty-four billion Reichmarks to complete the project, a rough thirty billion more than the original budget entailed. Nonetheless, the project was so necessary in the perception of the Laerihans that money became no obstacle, explaining the expensive end cost of the XLU-27 project, which in turn unveiled the Lu-27 Condor.

The Condor first saw combat two and a half years of the War of Golden Succession in a flight over Haven. The flight was largely for testing purposes and was scrambled together when a downed Havenite pilot warned interrogators that the next day would see a massive Havenite bombing campaign leading a Havenite winter counter-offensive. The single squadron of Condors simply tore apart the majority of the EB-9s which more or less gave them an enlongated lifespan within the Empire's airforce, since their first example of combat turned out to be largely successful. Prospectives dictate that the original order of four thousand Lu-27s may increase to the once thought rediculous number of seven thousand depending on the etiquette of procurement and the fluctuating numbers of Lu-45 Hawks. Within the context of the reorganization of the airforce, the Lu-27 was the cause of it and the future holds many uncertainties regarding proportions of aircraft in use. Nevertheless, the Lu-27 lives through the threat that it will be continously refitted during its early years, much like the Hawk Air Superiority Fighter, which will considerably prolong the procurement period for the Empire, although understandably the foreign sector won't undergo this problem since more likely than not they will be fitted with older versions of the aircraft anyways and forced to upgrade on their own, although refit blueprints are always guaranteed with an older purchase.

Although there is still much real time testing that the Lu-27 will have to undergo before the final decision on its proportional appearance within the air force, it can be said early on that the Condor will be a historic aircraft, at least within the annals of Macabee history. The Condor is expected to make a huge appearance in future wars. It's als expected that the Condor will be widely used by the foreign sector, and like all other Kriegzimmer product, will be a major combatant in the merchant front between different storefronts. In the end, the Condor has proven to be a true contester in international design.

Airframe:
The interest in high quality airframes began with the developement of the Lu-45 Hawk, and although the GLI-76 Falcon truly did not offer quite an advancement, the order for the Lu-27 did return a certain excitement in further developements with aircraft airframes. Macabee engineers, already with projects behind them that saw the continued expansion of airframe technologies, had the necessary backgrounds to shatter obstacles set before them and again shock the world with all new materias and proportions. In the end, the airframe casted on the Lu-27 is perhaps the most ingenious and well designed to date, although inherently one of the most expensive as well. Monetary issues nonwithstanding, the new airframe should be able to withstand the heat of up to Mach 10 flight, although the aircraft is only expected to fly at Mach 5.5 maximum. The airframe has also taken a turn from one that revolved around maximum stealth, to one that focused on speed and possibilities to continously increase the maximum speed without necessarilly increasing the size of the engines. There was also a turn from metal based alloys to cheaper and lighter plastics although metal alloys and their high conductivity still find an important role in Macabee aircraft manufacturing.

The Condor's ribs are constructed from titanium alloys. The original titanium ribs proposed for the first prototype encountered extreme corrosion and thermal cracking which would become only more apparent in higher velocities, and thus higher thermal settings. There were several techniques to generally increase the ability of titanium to do its job, including to increase the surface oxide film thickness through thermal oxidation, anodically polarizing titanium through galvanic coupling, applying metal oxides to the coatings and alloying titanium with molybdenum, something that has not been made commercially available just yet. The results were a spectacular increase in resistance against general corrosion, pitting and stress-corrosion cracking. Pitting being localized corrosion due to exposure of the metal to the open and stress-corrosion cracking defined as cracking under certain stresses and heat. It's easy to say that the Condor's ribs are perfectly capable of handling the job of holding the airframe together and are some of the strongest currently available for aerospace application. The increased production, especially during any eventual refitting of the Lu-45 Hawk, should make these ribs commercially available rather soon, especially under always advancing manufacturing techniques. The same titanium alloy accounts for thirty-nine percent [39%] of the superstructure's components.

Twenty-three percent [23%] of the airframe is composed of a series of different thermosets. All thermosets laid before the project were commercially available, and in the end the two chosen were polyterimide and polybenzothiazole [PLZ]. Both were chosen for their extreme heat resistance characteristics which would be rather important for the super structure of the aircraft. Both are reinforced primarily by polycarbonate which accounts for even higher heat resistance, while in strategic locations polymer resins also make an appearance. The sister of thermosets, thermoplastics, makes up only one percent [1%] of the aircraft due to the general superiority of thermosets in the ultramodern aerospace industry. There's absolutely no chance that thermoplastics will make a reappearance in airframe technology unless some new thermopolymer is introduced with breathtaking advantages over some newer thermosets. Underneath the thermosets, and making up the majority of the inner walls of the superstructure for a whooping fifteen percent [15%] of the Condor is Rene N6, which made an appearance with the Lu-45 Hawk. The final twenty-two percent [22%] of the airframe is made of hardened steel and other, minor, ingredients that make up links, joints, nuts and bolts, as well as other smaller, but nonetheless vital parts of the aircraft.

The substructure begins at the crest at the back of the aircraft, providing for the majority of the carbon-epoxy used in the substructure. The substructure of the nose of the aircraft is fully aluminum in nature, while the center of the body is constructed of titanium to account for where the engines are placed and where most of the heat occurs. Aluminum accounts for outside areas in the substructure, as well as parts of the back of the substructure. Hardened steel also makes an appearance for the undercarriage of the aircraft where the landing gear is located. The substructure being vital for the survivability of the superstructure, understandably the primary hardened locations of it are under areas of most pressure to avoid a scar in the superstructure. In fact, during the first flight over Arras the substructure near the front of the afterburner tore, collapsing the superstructure and skin of the aircraft causing the end of the prototype to tear off and sending it, in a fire ball, into the dirt some forty thousand meters below.

Most of the aircraft's skin is constructed from carbon-epoxy and titanium; nineteen percent [19%] and twenty-one percent [21%] respectively. The former was used in sheets with the coefficient of thermal expansion being 2.1 for both longitudinal and transverse expansion, with a low compressive strain of .8%, offering itself to be a cheap but resilient composite material for use on the Lu-27 Condor, one of the principal design objectives for the Lu-27 Condor. Thirty-one percent [31%] yet remains aluminum however; specifically, a NiAl superalloy [Nickel based aluminum superalloy]; with twenty-nine percent [29%], or the rest, being a mixture of other components and hardened steel. The skin is laminated on the outside with carbon fiberglass for the sake of more heat resistance, and less important, stealth. Although stealth was never a big goal on the Condor, simply because the velocities achieved don't consider stealth within themselves - thus explaining the decision not to coat it with radar absorbent materials - it was thought that the foreign market and the Empire itself would appreciate the at least limited considerations to stealth.

The air inlets are located on the narrow nose of the Condor. The inner tube doesn't curve at all to allow better flow of air and gasses, and since the engines are rather large, and on the wings, the exposed engines are really irrelevent to the design of the air intakes. The inlets are foward facing, with the outer tubes laminated in a nickel based aluminum alloy to deal both with heat problems and the intense friction of the passing air and gasses. The idea behind the new manufacturing of the lamination is that it's largely modular, allowing the lamination to be replaced easily and inexpensively every fifty flights on average. The air intakes include a one stage diffuser/dual mode and a thermal shroud.

In a general overview the airframe of the Lu-27 Condor has been tested with fly-by-optics testing over Arras, past the three prototypes, and within heat intense testing windtunnels and other rooms, to withstand up to one thousand four hundred degrees celcius of heat, which is rather revolutionary when considering that the Lu-45 Hawk was designed with the then highest rating of one thousand one hundred and twenty degrees celcius of heat resistance. In fact, the Condor has proven to be quite the step ahead in airframe technology and is likely to be the basis of future Lu and GLI designs, as well as foreign designs.

Wing Design:
In the simplist of explenations, the general theory on the formation of the wings was to go with what offered the best velocity without much overcomplication, although complication is the nature of the Condor regardless. For those reasons the Lu-27 Condor uses what in essense is a delta wing design, although much like the engine, it has been merged with a newer, more unknown design, the waverider wing design. The merging of the two should provide unbeknownst velocities when coupling with engine power; it's to say, the ability for the Condor to make the record for the fastest interceptor in service will be made a whole lot easier. Another major objective set by the Laerihans was the ability for supermanuevarability. Although the pure form of the latter was never reached, even with the entrance of the Condor into history, the design of the wings does give a considerable step foward for supermanueverability.

The wing from the top view looks like a standard, but enlarged, delta wing which has had considerable success in high supersonic flight. The key difference is under the wing, where the design is conically derived. To illustrate it with words before the engine there's a conical shock bump, which launches the airflow over a conically designed encasement for the engines. This leads to a cowl under the engine, which in turn sends the airflow through a series of plumes. The wings have been proven for flight at Mach 25, but since the Condor is not meant for such velocity there should be little issue regarding its ability to reach Mach 5.5 with the wings - which is a low hypersonic velocity. Apart from the shapin, the rest of the wings and the airfoils are rather thin for better supersonic and hypersonic velocity; nonetheless, the conical shock bumps should provide for maximum lift in hypersonic travel, although it should also help to make the aircraft somewhat ugly.

The wings are constructed with titanium alloy ribs, following that of the main airframe, while the substructure is constructed from high intensity thermosets and aluminum. The superstructure is crafted from thermosets, thermoplastics and aluminum, while the skin is constructed purely from carbon-epoxy and some aluminum parts. The airfoils are constructed out of CMSK-11B, a single crystal (SX) superalloy, which is also one of the most used superalloys to increase firing temperatures which result in thermal effecciency improvement. The airfoils mostly follow the rather conventional double slotted flap and leading edge flap concept, which have proven superior to any other more simplistic flaps such as the zap design or just the plain design. The wing stalls were moved to the roots of the wing to move the center of gravity, and therefore allowing more manueverability during stalling, meaning the angle of attack [AOA] has increased considerably, although the pilot still remains the 'weakest link'.

Nonetheless, the aircraft should be capable of quasi-supermanueverability, or at least very good manueverability, and the wing design should prove to be able to increase the velocity handled by the engines and by the aircraft proper. Indeed, the Condor may very well lead international engineers towards new wing designs and it might be first of a kind, although it all comes with a cost.

Tail Design:
The tail design is rather conservative and simple. The substructure of the tail is constructed from both carbon-epoxy and titanium alloy, of similar manufacturing as the one used for the rest of the aircraft, including the aircraft's ribs. The titanium is principally the bottom part of the tail to provide structural strength, while the idea of building the upper parts of carbon epoxy is to provide some sort of elasticity and the ability for the tail to 'warp', which arguable gives the aircraft somewhat more manueverability. The entire superstructure and skin of the tail is constructed out of carbon-epoxy and glass-polyimide, allowing for structural soundness and rather good resistance to fatigue and heat, as well as rudimentary protection of vital sensor and communication equipment located on them.

The tail design are two verticle stablilizers, each set at around sixty degrees and about fifty percent longer than those featured on the SR-71 design, although a bit more angled. There are two horizontal stablilizers as well for additional stability of the aircraft, although the sixty degree angles of attack and huge manuevers aren't really expected from this aircraft. Nonetheless, if needed it should be enough to stablilize the aircraft under most circumstances and offers more stability than the SR-71 and F-22 combined, although admittently it takes from the lessons learned on both aircraft.

The increased angle of the fins, apart from offering excellent aerodynamics that go with the general weird shape of the aircraft, also serve to block the heat radiation coming from the engines and should deflect radar at a greater angle of incident, making the plane incidently - har har, a play on words! - stealthier, although it's largely irrelevent, since it's moving at Mach 5 anyways. Regardless, limited stealth is always somewhat of an advantage in certain situations.

Canard Design:
For the majority of modern aviation history the canards have been an element to reduce stall and spin, providing a very powerful resistance against the two. Historically the canards are put right under the fuselage, at least on airliners, but they were brought foward on military aircraft. Recently, the canard has been put a bit behind the nose of the aircraft because placing them behind the wing, which was before thought optimal, inherently limited the angle of attack and the velocity a plane could fly at. Fortunately, recent technologies, like the aforementioned movement of the canards almost fully foward will allow the Condor to reach the velocities required by its contractors. In the past months the VeriEze configuration used on designs conjured in the minds of those at Langley Research have been quantified to be stallproof, and this too was adopted by the Lu-27 Condor.

In short, the two canards are brought just behind the nose of the sleek, and long aircraft. The two canards are designed after thick high-life airfoils, which have proven superiority over standard swept aft wing canards. The outer wing of the canards droop a bit to avoid tip stalling eliminating any possibly rocketing of the wings during flight, therefore reducing possible G-forces in flight.

The canards substructure is entirely constructed of the usual titanium alloy, providing excellent ribs for the support of the canards and the possible forces that will be applied on it throughout flight. In short, it should make maintenance a whole lot easier. The superstructure is designed from a titanium metal matrix composite (Ti MMC), which ultimately make the canards very expensive, at around two hundred thousand Reichmarks per canard. Nonetheless, the canards are very resistance to everything, which is what was needed on the Lu-27 Condor. The skin is forged out of fiber-reinforced thermoplastics, crafted by melting resins and combining them in a mold along with reinforcing fibers. Although the skin is relatively cheap, unfortunately the introduction of Ti MMC set back price a bit, unfortunately.

Further Manueverability:
With the new airframe design, canard design, wing design, tail design and the revolutionary new engine set up the Lu-27 Condor has really made a change for the better, leading the world in aerodynamic potential and offering a leap to the mythica concept ofl supermanueverability. Nonetheless, teaching an old dog new tricks, if you will, still does not add up to complete what the Condor requires, which is a level short of supermanueverability. The result was thrust vectoring, but like everything else there was a wide variety to choose from. The ultimate choice was CounterFlow Thrust Vectoring (CFTVC).

The two thrust jets were put right before the wing - about four centimeters -, and five centimeters up the airframe of the aircraft as for the flow of the CounterFlow thrust to not interfere with the flow of the air as the aircraft hit top supersunic velocities and even entered hypersonic speeds. Additional experimentation in Arras, following the expermentation done for the MAE program in the University of Buffalo, New York, proved that CFTVC was the superior thrust vectoring control design for these types of application, and during the fourth prototype's flight, the Condor preformed fantastically seemingly giving more credit to the powers of CFTVC technology.

With this said, the Condor can achieve tight manuevers in an enviroment of hypersonic air waves, allowing the Condor unprecedented control during flight and the ability to effective counter and destroy any extremely high altitude aircraft - from other interceptors to bombers. In short, the Lu-27 Condor has been given the ability to preform the role it was originally envisioned for - an extremely fast interceptor.

Power Plant:
With a maximum velocity of Mach 5.5, or at least one that was theoritically possible, the engines were of prime importance and there were several historical examples that offered some basis for the design of the Condor's power plant. However, in the end with no early precedent that offered the velocity needed, with the effeciency needed, the Lu-27 Condor was forced to introduce an enhanced version of the turbojet-ramjet hybrid present on the SR-71. In the end, the only thing that could have possibly been done was the exchange from turbojet to turbofan and the 'purification' of the turbofan technology which would make the brunt of the improvements over the original design. The end product was dubbed Lu-67j-N13 hybrid turbofan-ramjet engines. In essense and in basic writing, the engines when the aircraft is stationary leaves the bypass doors open, with the spike inlet foward, with the tertiary doors open and the tailpipe vanes closed. The morphology into high velocity flight would include the inlet spike retracting then moving back foward for restart, and the tailpipe vanes fully open with the suck in doors closed.

Behind the spike inlet the engine, which is basically a glorified turbofan, has been enhanced to be much more effecient at high speeds. Instead of returning to blades, the engine has replaced them with blisks, or more accurately integrally bladed rotors, or IBRs. The blisk is basically a series of airfoils, or blades, attached to a rotor which is attached to the shaft of the engine, and it can be manufactured as a single piece, cutting manufacturing costs in the long run by a hefty amount. The IBR should increase aerodynamics and decrease total weight of the engines. Each airfoil is forged out of gamma tainium aluminide, originally forseen as a future evolution in aircraft turbine engine technology, and now made reality within the Lu-27 Condor. Gamma titanium aluminide, TiAl, is the base for an emerging class of low-cost, low-density alloys with unique properties. Gamma alloys are actually mixtures of the neighboring aluminide phases Ti3Al (alpha-two, hexagonal) and TiAl (gamma, tetragonal). The objectives, which were reached, in gamma alloy development was to increase ductility, oxidation resistance, tensile strength, creep resistance and porcessability. It's light weight characteristics should also ultimately aid in the increase of thrust from the same engine, which is a must in the developement of the Condor. The fans themselves are wide-chord, damperless blisks proven to enhance thrust on aircraft like the Dassault Falcon, which would only enhance high velocity engines like those on the Lu-27 Condor.

The blades are attached through carbon ceramics which provide effective design solutions for robust, axial inserted ceramic blade attachments for production turbines. Contact rig tests were performed during 2015 prototype testing in the Arras Technological Military and Space Exploration Center [ARTMASEC] in which the contact interface was simulated with a MIL-B type ceramic specimen, loaded with a radiused Astroloy indenter; the results were more than favourable, confirming that fast fracture strength was significantly degraded. The vanes were also designed out of ceramic composites with thin nickel based aluminum superalloy (Thymonel 8) airfoils, offering decreased stresses.

Another advance within expansion of the hybrid engine proper was the exchange of oil lubrication with a more advance form of lubrication. The two other possibilities were compressed air lubrication and magnetic lubrication. Foil air bearings would cause the spool shafts to ride along top compressed air, but the heavy load forces engineers to develope the technology further, something that could have taken up to another ten years; obviously, that wasn't an option. So, the second option was chosen instead, magnetic bearings. Although magnetic bearings have always been looked upon in disdain by more conservative engineers the advantages they offer are beyond obvious, and the same idea has been applied to heavier loads, such as tank turrets. As a consequence, magnetic bearings have become viable for engine aircraft and they make their very first appearance on the Lu-27 Condor. Finally, the engines proper have switched their alternators with integral starter-generators and electric actuators. The matured spool technology and the complete avoidance of hydraulics within the engine should allow for greater velocities and less weight.

In order to achieve the high efficiencies demanded of modern combined-cycle generating plants, it is necessary to operate the turbine with high turbine entry temperatures. Currently, gas temperatures at the cobustor exit are around thirteen thousand degrees celcius. The combed effect of thermal barrier coatings and efficient cooling configurations can ensure that metal temperatures remain acceptable with even higher gas temperatures. The proper coating was conceived from NiCrAlYSiTa, a vacuum plasma deposited coating and an air plasma coating. A secondary coating, CrAlYSITa was deposited by cauum plasma spraying.

To increase velocity when using the afterburners the engines also make use of parallel fluidic nozzles. Fixed-geometry fluidic nozzles are an attractive alternative to mechanical thrust-vectoring nozzles. These devices would selectively inject small jets of air or sheets of high-pressure air (bled from the compressor) into the nozzle’s main flow stream to change the nozzle’s flow area and direct the thrust as needed. Because fluidic nozzles would not have any moving parts in direct contact with the hot exhaust jet, they should eventually be much cheaper to design, pro-duce, and maintain. Even when not in afterburn fluidic nozzles should aid disproportionally in reaching hypersonic velocity, and achieving a possible transonic flight pattern.

In terms of thrust each engine produces fifty thousand pound force of thrust, considerably more than the engines of the SR-71, although considerably more expensive. The cost of each engine has been revealed to be around eleven million Reichmarks, meaning that the two engine configuration on the Condor will post the power plant alone at twenty-two million Reichmarks; a before thought ludicrous price, as each turbofan designed before was under five million Reichmarks in design and procurement cost. Nonetheless, with the engine specified, the velocity accounted for should very well be achieved, although gas exhaustion would be equally as costly, obviously.

Armament Stores:
One of the trickiest parts to design was the internal hardpoints. External hardpoints were considered off limites for the mere fact that they would most likely be torn apart in the advent of high speed manuevers, or even high speed in general. As a consequence, the entire weapon load of the Condor is internal. This does limit, somewhat, the ability for the Condor to carry heavy amounts of weapons, but then again, the new generation aircraft put out by Kriegzimmer has been much more conservative in the amount of weapons carried, illustrated by the fact that the Falcon only carries six missiles, or two JDAMs, for a somewhat larger aircraft than the F-35. Nonetheless, weight, and keeping it low was the major issue for all Kriegzimmer aircraft. The Condor does not break away from this new Kriegzimmer motto.

The internal hardpoint is built into an internal bomb bay which has two rack pods, each built to carry two air to air missiles. The racks are inclined at negative fifteen degrees to give the missile a much cleaner free fall. In other words, the tip of the missile falls down first, avoiding the tearing of the fins on the AAM.176, the missile of choice for the interceptor. Therefore, inclued at negative fifteen degrees the Condor carries a load of four AAM.176s. Any other air to air missile can technically be carried, except if its longer than the rack's pods, but no more than four missiles, regardless of dimensions, can fit in the internal bay.

The internal hardpoints are designed to withstand 20G turns, although the Condor will never get close to that, seeing as though the G-suit worn by the pilots can only withstand 11Gs. Nonetheless, it does ensure the stability of the internal hardpoints when the bottom door opens. Otherwise, the inside would be torn apart; a problem in older missile designs.

Cockpit and Avionics:
The cockpit is a single seat cockpit, with the seat slightly inclined to reduce the effect of G-force on the pilot. In front of the seat there's a wide array of screens that offer the pilot some of the best system configurations in the world. The largest screen is a transparent illumination crystal display that sits as a film screen between him/her and the cockpit's windshield. Information relayed to this screen have to do with brief flashes of incoming vampires or just detected bogies and bandits. Right under that is a primary multi-function display using a polychromatic liquid crystal display screen. It offers up to date information on the enviroment within radar and ladar range of the aircraft. Four up-front display systems laid out parallel to each other on the two extremes of the cockpit electronics panel are for the wellbeing of the aircraft. The pilot's wellbeing is tracked by the enviroment awareness module, which also keeps track of the nuclear, biological and chemical protection suites in the cabin. A final heads up display gives a 'god's eyes view' of the battlefield around them.

The pilot has several navigational aids, including a satellite based reality reproduction system, a hybrid navigational system, inertial navigation, tactical air navigational system and a terrain profiling and matching system. These navigational aids, in the end, help the pilot know where he is and when, especially useful when hitting the maximum velocities of the aircraft, which may exceed Mach 5.

He or she can control the armaments through the Stores Management System, and partiall through Communication/Navigation/Identification. Tied in with this latter system is the Identification, Friend or Foe, system. To maximize aircraft cooperation the Lu-27 mades handy its Intra-Flight Data Link and Joint Tactical Information Distribution System, which makes ultra velocity communication that much easier, which is vital for an aircraft like the Lu-27 Condor interceptor. All of this is centered at the Common Integrated Processor rated at two thousand million instructions per second, with signal processing rated at fifty billion operations per second. This is aided by the very high-speed integrated circuit technology, and separate modules.

Aircraft well being is regulated by the Engines Indicating and Crew Alerting System which senses engine failures and slow detonations. The airframe is checked through a central nervous system running between the substructure and the superstructure which regulates heat which tells the CIP whether or not the aircraft needs to slow down, which in turn warns the pilot. The electronics are upkeeped by the electronic flight instrumentation system.

All in all, the Condor fields a very powerful array of electronics. However, the principal component on the Condor is the helmet mounted display. The HMD is linked with the central processing unit through a fiber optic network of wiring, which in the end makes it a sixth sense for the highly trained pilots who work with the Condors. The system should increase reaction time, which is invaluable at such high velocities, and in the end should increase the effectivity of the avionics suit by at least threefold.

Sensor Equipment:
The Condor has relatively simple sensor equipment because at the velocities flown the most acute sensor equipment simply wouldn't work; regardless it's very radar heavy. The nose of the aircraft is occupied by an electronically scanned array, with wide bandwidth, while using less volume and prime power. Average ratings rate the range at three hundred kilometers for non-stealth detection. To update the image of the battlefield to the EFIS system [check avionics] the Condor fields an Inverse Synthetic Aperture radar. Both radar systems offer the Lu-27 a sensor suite that is capable of advance warning on its own, although it does receive a lot of aid from other subsensors, such as lidar and ladar, all linked together through the Imperial Radio Detection and Ranging Central Nervous System and the central sensor system.

There’s also a series of LIDAR sensor systems installed throughout the aircraft, including a single down-looking LIDAR system underneath the nose of the Hawk. There are also two wide LIDAR apertures on the front and end of the aircraft, located in hidden pockets to reduce RCS. All three LIDAR systems work similarly, and they all incorporate Luftkrieg’s second generation LIDAR technology. The Hawk’s system is based on a transponder and receiver, beside that of the IFF transponder, which uses a Gaussian transmitter system to transmit LIDAR waves. The Gaussian transmitter is based on two electrical fields sending electrically charged photonic waves to bounce off targets and have active measurements on its velocity and location. The advantage of this LIDAR system is that the active RADAR only needs to gain a location on an object once before the LIDAR can take over, meaning a bomber can turn off its active RADAR to reduce its signature. The Albatross’ LIDAR uses Doppler LIDAR in order to keep track of an object’s velocity, as well as a LIDAR range finder. The missile’s heterodyne-reception optical RADAR uses a standard configuration [transmitter laser > exit optics > atmospheric propagation path > target] and [photodetector > photocurrent processing > image processing / BermCombiner/ local oscillator entrance optics]. The Silencer's transmitter is a Casegrainian telescope, which works much like the photonic mast on an ultra-modern submarine.

The Condor has a foward sensing heterodyne pulse ladar with a rough range of around seventy kilometers for last minute detection. From the standpoint of the systems engineer, the most meaningful criteria which can be applied to an optical radar are those which, for a specific operational task, define the relative probabilities of recording the real and false targets. The arrival of photons either from a radiating source or as the result of a target reflection can be classified as being both individually and collectively at ranom. Optical Doppler sensing using the highly coherent gas laser in an optical heterodyne system has been accomplished using moving mirrors over significant path lengths where most of the engieering problems involved are by now farily well under control. Within the Condor the model of a heterodyne-detection radar has an optics transmitter [Gaussian transmitter], protected by the filter, whic his sent to the detector, processing circuits and then to the central computer to make the ultimate decision for reality. In terms of complexity, this is much for complex than an energy-detection radar, but at the same time more accurate.

In conclusion, the sensor system on the Lu-27 Condor has designed for the aircraft, and this aircraft alone, and the coupling of lidar, ladar and radar will have its merits in the end to make the proper sensor system for the aircraft.

Countermeasures:
The Condor has two electronic warfare systems, the Advance Integrated Defensive Electronic Countermeasure System and the electronic counter-measure system. The former uses noise jamming, deception jamming, and blip enhancement, while the latter is more a threat management system. A third system, the Electronic Warfare, is a manual dispension program for the pilot. The Lu-27 Condor is more designed to counter high altitude surface to air missiles, anti-sattelite missiles and air to air missiles from bombers or fellow interceptors. The jamming systems include a broadband radar jammer and a multi-node optical jammer dubbed 'Ajax' and 'Menelaus', respectively. This built in electronic warfare countermeasure system should provide the Condor with enough to avoid enemy missiles at such high velocities.

A belly dispenser holds seventy-five flare sticks for older, and even newer, infra-red targetting missiles while a sister dispenser holds sixty units of chaff, giving the Condor more than it needs of standard countermeasure utilities.

Manufacturing Technology Status on Ti MMC
Many fabrication processes exist that can meet the component fabrication need for advanced aerospace applications in Kriegzimmer. In order to focus the manufacturing infrastructure on a common approach for the near term fan applications, the TMCTECC team has worked with the Kriegzimmer sponsored High Preformance Composites (HPC) program to devleope baseline specifications for older and newer titanium matrix composites. These sepcifications are for green (unconsolidated) monotape and consolidated mill product. TMCTECC and HPC believes the key to establishing a high volume Ti MMC market is to agree to common material forms and common specifications.

One way TMCTECC will be able to implement Ti MMC into fan and airframe components is by using the strengths of integrated product team philosophy. The designers, Ti MMC material suppliers, and component fabricators are working together to develop the optimum component based on performance, fabricability and cost. For Luftkrieg to replace the current bill of material Ti products, the cost of the Ti MMC containing component must be less than the production model. TO achieve this while using $1100 per kilogram Ti MMC material, the designer must understand how to maximize the composite benefits while minimizing its volume in the aircraft component. This leads the team to selecting simple shapes with little associated scrap during the fabrication process. With this approach, Luftkrieg is projecting a 30% cost savings compared with the components being replaced.

Statistics:
Type: Interceptor
Crew: 1 (Pilot)
Wing span: 17.1m
Length: 36.7m
Height: 5.52m
Empty weight: 26,761.9kg
Weapon payload: 1,000kg
Fuel weight: 26,756 kg
Combat Weight: 56,194 kg
Maximum take-off weight: 77,110 kg
Type: 2x Lu-67j-N13 Turbofan-Ramjet Hybrid
Maximum speeds:
1.3 Mach @ Sea level
5.01+ Super cruise
>5.35 @ maximum
Climb rate: 28,000 meters per minute
Maximum altitude: 45,720 m
Internal Bay Pylons: 2
Internal Bay limit: 750 kg each
Airstrip take-off run: 400m
Airstrip landing: >350m
Combat range: 3,600 nautical miles [without refueling]
G load limits: >17g
In-flight Refueling?: yes
Oxygen Generation?: yes
Production costs: 210 million
Price: 320 million USD per unit
Lame Bums
09-12-2005, 06:08
To: Kriegzimmer

We would like to acquire the production rights to the Lu-27 Condor Interceptor. We are willing to pay a one-time lump sum of fifty-four billion USD's for the blueprints of said design.
Southeastasia
09-12-2005, 17:15
bump
Halberdgardia
10-12-2005, 01:27
Encrypted Transmission to Kriegzimmer Storefront

The Democratic Imperium finds itself in a precarious position in the newly-opened colonial region administered by Questers. Our colony of Veritas, situated on the southwestern island of the region, is in danger of succumbing to the aggressive, imperialist ambitions of the apparently semi-autonomous Truittian colony of Osea. While Veritas is well-defended, it is imperative that we have sufficient technology to help repulse a possible Osean attack. Therefore, we come to Kriegzimmer with a somewhat diverse and specialized order, which we wish to be completed with all possible haste, and which we are willing to compensate Kriegzimmer for.

Our order consists of the following:

Production rights to the Lu-27 "Condor" Interceptor
Production rights to the Corzian Supergun variants
Production rights to a maglev railway version of the Corbulo 155mm gun
A new artillery design; an upscaled version of the Corbulo gun (from 155mm to 400mm) to be mounted on a maglev platform

We are willing to pay whatever price Kriegzimmer sets for the custom design, production rights, and increased speed.

End Encrypted Transmission
The Macabees
10-12-2005, 02:25
To: Kriegzimmer

We would like to acquire the production rights to the Lu-27 Condor Interceptor. We are willing to pay a one-time lump sum of fifty-four billion USD's for the blueprints of said design.

To: Lame Bums

Welcome back to Kriegzimmer. The first order of business is confirming the order for fifty-four billion USD. The blueprints and manufacturing prints will be delivered to your consulate immediately. We're sure that the Lu-27 Condor will do great deeds in the service of Lame Bums and we guarantee that Kriegzimmer can answer any questions you may have now or in the future. Finally, as always, we wish to thank you greatly for this order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Encrypted Transmission to Kriegzimmer Storefront

The Democratic Imperium finds itself in a precarious position in the newly-opened colonial region administered by Questers. Our colony of Veritas, situated on the southwestern island of the region, is in danger of succumbing to the aggressive, imperialist ambitions of the apparently semi-autonomous Truittian colony of Osea. While Veritas is well-defended, it is imperative that we have sufficient technology to help repulse a possible Osean attack. Therefore, we come to Kriegzimmer with a somewhat diverse and specialized order, which we wish to be completed with all possible haste, and which we are willing to compensate Kriegzimmer for.

Our order consists of the following:

* Production rights to the Lu-27 "Condor" Interceptor
* Production rights to the Corzian Supergun variants
* Production rights to a maglev railway version of the Corbulo 155mm gun
* A new artillery design; an upscaled version of the Corbulo gun (from 155mm to 400mm) to be mounted on a maglev platform


We are willing to pay whatever price Kriegzimmer sets for the custom design, production rights, and increased speed.

End Encrypted Transmission


To: Kriegzimmer

Greetings! It troubles us that a customer may have problems in a colony of theirs. We have had some interaction with the Jewittist Republic of Truitt, but none concerning mercantilism, and we admit that they are rather belligerent, but then again, so is our home country. But, alas, in the end it's largely irrelevent as we sell to anybody, although we doubt that the prideful people of Truitt would ever consider purchasing from Kriegzimmer. Regardless, the production rights for the Condor will be sold at fifty-four billion, while the Corzian supergun variants will be sold for eight billion, while we will contruct the new variant for the Maglev train for a total of five billion.

In fact, we have the blueprints for your now. It's rather the same, only the base of the gun has been condensed a bit to fit on a Maglev train. Well, actually, if we may request, can you send us the width of your trains? This should help greatly in designing the gun. Or, you can create a custom car for the gun with a bit of a wider base, although the tracks will still be the same width apart; so, in the end, it would flap past the width of the tracks a bit in a circular fashion. That nonwithstanding, we will await until your next message until we totally finish the new blueprints.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Macabees
10-12-2005, 05:00
CLN-68 Morsky-Orol Class Light Cruiser
The original Mosrky-Orol class Light Cruiser was introduced by Novikov and it immediately brought the attention from the Kriermada. The result was the purchase of three. Most unfortunately, two of the three were completely sunk at the Naval Raid of Feathermore Trench as a result of a single nuclear tipped Malatosian SS-N-54 Sunburn Anti-Shipping missiles. The third was severely damaged and underwent repairs that would last for two months. To replace the ships the Kriermada originally intended to return to Novikov, but unfortunately years before the Feathermore incident Novikov had become a crown posession of Azazia. Therefore, the Kriermada decided to take the last ship available to them and take the idea and expand on it. In effect, they increased the diameter and length of the main guns, added their own advance surfaceto air missile launchers, included six close-in weapon systems and all in all upgraded the design from what could be considered old generation sensors and weapons deployed on the first design to fully competitive sensors and weapons for the newer generation design.

The task set before the Light Cruiser is to formulate light shipping that's cheap but competitive when it comes to warfare. Indeed, a mere three ships were able to stave off a much larger Malatosian fleet west of Beda Fromm during the Raid of Feathermore Trench. Had more than three light cruisers been deployed there would have been a much greater difference in the amount of damage exerted. Otherwise, the ship would also be the perfect commerce raider. Regardless of the job set before it, the Morsky-Orol is quite the compliment to any fleet and its services go beyond that of a light cruiser.

The Morsky-Orol is also intended for production for smaller nations incapable of fielding larger numbers of larger variants of ships. Whether for a small or large nation, it should prove a rather valuable piece of equipment nonetheless.

Statistics:
Displacement: 12,180 tons
Length: 196 meters
Beam: 22.6 meters
Draft: 7.7 meters

Speed: 34 knots
Propulsion: One Vahalla Pebblebed Nuclear Reactor, Two Shafts, Six-Bladed Screw, Two waterjets

Crew: 348 Sailors and Officers

Armament:
-30 Principe III Anti-Shipping Missiles
-4 Shockhound Avenger Missile Systems (Total 32 missiles in launcher, 72 in magazine)
-3 Praetorian SAM Systems (4 P.746.A Missiles each)
-3 Modél 32 ETC/HVP 127mm Gun Turrets (2 Forward, 1 Aft)
-4 Av.36 Torpedo Launchers (24 Av.36 Torpedoes Aboard)
-6 Conhort close-in weapon systems
-10 75mm AAA

Detection:
-1 Syva torpedo alert system
-1 Arnex surface search radar
-2 Argonaut air sentry radar
-2 Gorgon targeting radar
-2 Nautillus navigation radars
-1 Fathom hull sonar
-1 TB-116 thin line towed array sonar
-6 Calypto Surface Search lidar
-2 Veritas general imagery ladar

Countermeasures:
-6 SAGAIE NG decoy lauchers
-4 DAGAIE decoy launchers
-1 ARBR 17 radar detector
-1 SAIGON radio emission detector
-2 ARBB 33 jammer

Tactical Information System: SENIT 4

Communication Systems:
-HF, UHF, VHF, and SHF Liaison
-Teardrop II Satellite Transmission System

Aircraft:
-2 SeaSerpent Helicopters (LAMPS)

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Price: 1.5 billion USD
Operating cost: 220 million USD
Halberdgardia
10-12-2005, 06:00
To: Lame Bums

Welcome back to Kriegzimmer. The first order of business is confirming the order for fifty-four billion USD. The blueprints and manufacturing prints will be delivered to your consulate immediately. We're sure that the Lu-27 Condor will do great deeds in the service of Lame Bums and we guarantee that Kriegzimmer can answer any questions you may have now or in the future. Finally, as always, we wish to thank you greatly for this order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



To: Kriegzimmer

Greetings! It troubles us that a customer may have problems in a colony of theirs. We have had some interaction with the Jewittist Republic of Truitt, but none concerning mercantilism, and we admit that they are rather belligerent, but then again, so is our home country. But, alas, in the end it's largely irrelevent as we sell to anybody, although we doubt that the prideful people of Truitt would ever consider purchasing from Kriegzimmer. Regardless, the production rights for the Condor will be sold at fifty-four billion, while the Corzian supergun variants will be sold for eight billion, while we will contruct the new variant for the Maglev train for a total of five billion.

In fact, we have the blueprints for your now. It's rather the same, only the base of the gun has been condensed a bit to fit on a Maglev train. Well, actually, if we may request, can you send us the width of your trains? This should help greatly in designing the gun. Or, you can create a custom car for the gun with a bit of a wider base, although the tracks will still be the same width apart; so, in the end, it would flap past the width of the tracks a bit in a circular fashion. That nonwithstanding, we will await until your next message until we totally finish the new blueprints.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: Mac, please check my thread on railway systems in Concepts, Inc. on the NS Draftroom; I've posted some ideas for the custom design there. Once approved, I'll edit this with an IC response.]
The Macabees
11-12-2005, 19:29
Here, I'll just copy/paste it here; the discussion that is:

Well, ok, the width of the tracks are 2.9 meters? Well, we can build a sort of skirt that would be perpindicular to the tracks; meaning the base of the gun would be wider than the tracks, but it can't be by that much I suppose. So, let's say I went three meters out per side, so that would be a total of nine meters - we can support these 'skirts' using a series of titanium alloy support bars I would venture to say... proportionally that would render a 49.9 meter gun with a length of 29.4m. If we suspended the gun through cables we can possibly get a larger gun, but I would have to research suspension. But, I would say that it would have the range of Variant 2 of the Corzian Supergun. It would weigh around 1000 tons, so I don't know if the Maglev can support that, and then the recoil - I would have to start researching on recoil suppressants and absorbants.

Q. Could you modify it to be the world's largest recoilless rifle? It'd lose range, but a lot of the recoil would be gone. [CAs question]

A. What I'm trying to figure out is making the barrel a two piece with coil rifling. The problem is the change of width in the barrel - the sudden change of width - and with EM rifling that's a problem, because the round either wont keep in touch with the first coiling, or then will break the second coiling; so I have a lot of researching ahead of me. Well anyways, the barrel would retract into the larger, second piece below it - like older recoilless artillery guns.
The Macabees
12-12-2005, 02:02
[OOC: If some of you would be kind of enough that if you did order so to copy/paste the order to Kriegzimmer (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409787), for my records. I would be extremely thankful.]



GF11 Archer Tactical Reconnaissance Unmanned Aerial Vehicle

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History:
The Laerihans has never had an unmanned aerial vehicle to call its own, and after a reconsideration of tactical surveillance and reconnaissance it was decided that a new form of tactical surveillance was an utter necessity. This only became more apparent after the decomissioning of old wheeled reconnaissance vehicles, reverting the task to sattelites and underequipped and underpaid foot soldiers and heavier vehicles. Therefore, prototypes of the Archer were released in late 2015 under the administration of the newly risen Fedor I. The first battlefield experience of the Archer was in the War of Golden Succession, both in the colonies and in the fronts nearer to home. It was a smashing success. Because of the Archer the Jagadan Phantom units were utterly destroyed in the colonies, and their landings in the northern areas of Sidi, during the beginning stages of the Jagadan offensive towards Sidi Rezegh, were betrayed. Havenite convoys in Zarbia were also found. In short, the Archer was something that was immediately qualified to go into mass production. Mass production began around June 2016. They saw major service agaisnt Haven [SafeHaven2] and against Zarbia; they also saw minor service in the later naval battles of the war as naval spotters, instead of the much more cumbersome SeaSerpent helicopters. They would also see action in many more wars to come and post-war brushfire incidents throughout new dependencies of the Empire.

The idea of the Archer was not for it to work as a weapon in combat, and so any payload that existing UAVs or UCAVs had were dropped. There was absolutely no need for the GF11 to have anything that could harm another person; that would only give it a way. Instead, it was designed to fly relatively high and quiet, with as much heat reduction as possible. In other words, it was to be invisible. This would be achieved through new airframe contruction for lightweight UAVs and infra-red reduction systems and such. In other words, this was to be a revolutionary UAV. Of course, it was a hit within the Imperial Armed Forces and Kriegzimmer, having a short slump in sales, hoped it would be a hit abroad as well. Kriegzimmer has lately admitted that the idea was an expansion on a similar UAV system developed by the now deseased Vastiva. These were first witnessed in the Euroslavian Civil War, shortly after the Empire had emerged from the Kahtan Crusade, and they were under the name of SHARDS. Understandably, it hit a bright light inside Kriegzimmer's head, although the program never begun until 2014 since Kriegzimmer had gone into a relative expansion of products.

History nonwithstanding, the GF11 Archer has already proved itself in combat operations. These successes can only be exaggerated further in the event of a clandestine intelligence operation. Indeed, IINSA has already ordered thirty for their own uses in intelligence operations abroad. Guffingford, a recent victim of a IINSA operation against the Order of the Invisible Hand, has already lashed out at the Macabee intelligence agency [IINSA] and warned them of further use, including the use of Archers, within their country. Nevertheless, one cannot downplay the possiblities of the GF11 Archer.

Airframe:
The primary task in airframe construction was to make the UAV radar transparent; in other words, the radio waves would simply pass through the material without creating an angle of incident and thus reflecting. The idea works much like that of a parachute, which is radar transparent. Of course, the material would have to be sturdy enough to support flight. Therefore, a composite between three principle materials was chosen in the end; glass, acrylic and polycarbonate. Minor materials included were vinyl and urethane. The composite is rather expensive, rated at around 300 Reichmarks per gram, but it provides the intregral strength for flight and gives the Archer the properties it needs as a UAV. It uses a titanium alloy matrix to weave fiber reinforced plastics to produce the substructure. This is then laminated by vinyl and urethane, both of them polymers [plastics] which bond well to the major components. Acrylic is a thermoplastic and is what makes most car windshields. This coupled with glass makes an extremely transparent airframe to radar, while through visual contact it would appear white because of the bonding materials used. The only reflective material in use is the titanium alloy, but the matrix is so small it's inconsequential.

Every component of the airframe is modular to make it cheaper to apply and re-apply. Meaning, the armour comes in appliqué slabs which use a urethane laminate along the sides to bond well with neighboring slabs, as well as standard welding, of course. The modular perforated armour has been dubbed Modular Perforated Transparent Armour [MOPETA]. It's been put on sale to commercial airliners and to foreign governments by Kriegzimmer at 700 Reichmarks a gram.

Powerplant:
The powerplant uses a totally mechanical and electrical turboprop engine. Namely, it uses pulses of electricity coming from a reginative coil to combust the fuel, which in turn expands the compressed air coming from the engine intakes, which spins the small turboprop behind the GF11 Archer. The battery has an extremely limted lifespan of forty hours, but is cheap to replace because of the fact that a similar battery is used to power Macabee tank guns. Apart from that the engine is very quiet, and heat is insulated through the use of aerogel/fiber composite materials, which are light weight, but strong and absorbant. Meaning, the GF11 Archer neither makes noise or expends great deal of heat. Meaning, the Archer has successfully made itself to be one of the stealthiest UAV designs on the market. Not only that, but its lifespan matches all tactical reconnaissance UAVs except for the Global Hawk.

Conclusions:
As said prior, the GF11 Archer has been proven to be quite the design, superior to most other UAV designs on the market. The Laerihans has ordered a full aerial armada of one hundred and twenty GF11 Archers for further use in war; half of these are expected to be shot down through enemy action. The Kriermada has ordered hundreds to accompany shipping in naval actions. It's expected that the foreign market will cram for purchases of the GF11 Archer.

In terms of future capabilities, Kriegzimmer has only released that it has a lot ahead of it.

Name: GF11 Archer Tactical Reconnaissance Unmanned Aerial Vehicle
Manufacturer: Goldent Luftwaffe Industries
Length: 5.8 meters
Wingspan: 13.7 meters
Height: 1.8 meters
Data Link:
-Global Positioning System
-Ultra High Frequency
-Ku Frequency
-Line of Sight
-C-band
Sensors:
-Foward Looking Electronic Scanned Array
-Sidelooking Electronic Scanned Array
-Downlooking Bi-static Radar
-Downlooking Pulse Lidar
-Downlooking Gaussian Ladar
-Downlooking Infra-red Receiver
-Downlooking High Definition Camera
Maximum Gross Weight: 730 kilograms
Operational Altitudes: 4000 meters
Velocities:
23 knots @ stall
56 knots @ cruise
70 knots @ dash
Emergency Recover: Parachute
Auto Return Home: Yes [on data link loss]
Autonomy: Full
Engine: Electrical Turboprop
Fuel: 150 Litres
Flight Life: 40 Hours
Runway: 1524 x 38 meters; hard surface
Production Cost: 4.8 million
Purchase Cost per Unit: 15 million
Production Rights Cost: 6.2 billion
Corzia
12-12-2005, 03:11
[here it is, mac]

Corzia needs to expand its clandestine ability and so we are ordering 200 GF11 Archer Tactical Reconnaissance Unmanned Aerial Vehicles for a total of USD 1 500 000 000.
Southeastasia
12-12-2005, 11:35
bump
The Macabees
12-12-2005, 17:00
[here it is, mac]

Corzia needs to expand its clandestine ability and so we are ordering 200 GF11 Archer Tactical Reconnaissance Unmanned Aerial Vehicles for a total of USD 1 500 000 000.


To: Corzia

Hail again! We understand the need of Corzia to expand its power to silently propigate itself around the enemy using stealthy surveillance designs. By all means, the order has been confirmed for two hundred Archers at 1.5 billion USD. The two hundred Archers will arrive within two and a half months. We apologize for the delay but it has just gotten into mass producement and so might take a while for it to achieve full blown production rates. Nonetheless, we assure you it is a worthwhile wait and venture. Thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer
McKagan
13-12-2005, 04:41
[New Order]
In this time of mass bomb raids, we were disturbed when we noticed we had no dedicated high speed interceptor. We are willing to pay any price for the production rights to the Lu-27 Condor Interceptor.
The Macabees
13-12-2005, 17:12
[New Order]
In this time of mass bomb raids, we were disturbed when we noticed we had no dedicated high speed interceptor. We are willing to pay any price for the production rights to the Lu-27 Condor Interceptor.


To: McKagan
Indeed, the Lu-27 Condor is the best response to mass bombing raids, able to outmanuever and outrun any single conventional bomber used in the world today. Equipped with the very best in Kriegzimmer's missile stock she is a bird to be feared. We have no doubts that the Condor will do nicely in the ranks of your airforce. Consider her yours for the same price two previous customers purchased it for, 45 billion USD. Kriegzimmer, again, appreciates your business; thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Sparta Dominion
13-12-2005, 23:35
We wish to buy 1,000,000 of the mines you own. Money will be wired at confirmation.
The Macabees
14-12-2005, 03:39
We wish to buy 1,000,000 of the mines you own. Money will be wired at confirmation.

To: Sparta Dominion
The order for a million ATG-44s has been confirmed and they should be ready and sent within two months. Thank you for the order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
17-12-2005, 18:22
[New Purchase/Secret IC]

CODEX and the MCID require a sniper rifle that is both superior to anything else on the market, but ALSO generic enough not to be linked to them. Because of that, we have quiet simply chosen your new rifle. We would like production rights to it. We also have the need for a generic Pistol, Automatic Rifle, and battlesuit. With that, our final order looks like this.


Production Rights to Hali-21 Assault Rifle
Production Rights to Hali-37 Assault Rifle
Production Rights to GH-31 12.7mm High Powered Sniper Rifle
Production Rights to Hol-24 9mm Pistol
Production Rights to BDU-64 Samson Battle Suit


Thank you.
Corzia
18-12-2005, 20:44
Corzia is finally retiring our old US aircraft carriers and so we have decided upon the Indestructable class as a replacement for the ACN.
Our order is as follows:

-4 Indestructable class Aircraft Carriers for a total of 14 billion USD.
Graham and Palmer
19-12-2005, 02:04
Your Excellency,
My nation wishes to recieve 5,000 Pzkmpf. XII Wolverine Light Tanks. The payment of $17.5 billion will be sent on confirmation of the order. We look forward to to doing further business with your company.
Yours Truly,
BG Antonio Delton, Chief of Logistics, Graham and Palmer Department of War
Merki
19-12-2005, 04:21
TO: Kriegzimmer

FROM: Nathan Lord, Premier, Dominion of Merki


SUBJECT: The Dominion of Merki United Military Command (DoMUMC) would like to make a purchase of 5,000 MTAAM-3 Silencer Air-to-Air Missiles.

The DoMUMC would also like to inquire about the possibility of contracting Kreigzimmer to design a heavy APC capable of swift transport by SKY CRANE helicopter along with Airborne Infantry divisions. The DoMUMC believes that a budget of $50 million USD per unit would be sufficient.

Thank you

[END]
The Macabees
19-12-2005, 05:15
[New Purchase/Secret IC]

CODEX and the MCID require a sniper rifle that is both superior to anything else on the market, but ALSO generic enough not to be linked to them. Because of that, we have quiet simply chosen your new rifle. We would like production rights to it. We also have the need for a generic Pistol, Automatic Rifle, and battlesuit. With that, our final order looks like this.


Production Rights to Hali-21 Assault Rifle
Production Rights to Hali-37 Assault Rifle
Production Rights to GH-31 12.7mm High Powered Sniper Rifle
Production Rights to Hol-24 9mm Pistol
Production Rights to BDU-64 Samson Battle Suit


Thank you.

To: McKagan

Kriegzimmer, of course, agrees with your choice of procurement and choice of supplying industry. It is without a doubt that your order has been confirmed, and above that we guarantee that these new weapons will serve your military for quite a while, just because of the general quality. So, for the two assault rifles, the sniper rifle, the pistol and the battlesuit, we ask for a total of six billion United States Dollars, or 3.5 billion McKagan tender. Hopefully, this price is agreeable to the Democratic Imperium as well. If not, as always, Kriegzimmer is willing to negotiate a better deal. Regardless, thank you for the newest order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: Corzia

The Indestructable is an excellent choice for the replacement of old United States Navy carrier classes. The four ships will be put into manufacturing in the shipyards at the same time; it will take roughly two and a half years to complete each ship, meaning all four ships will be ready in two and a half years. They will finally arrive at Corzia in roughly thirty-three months. We must reiterate that you have committed yourself to an excellent choice in naval technology.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: Antonio Delton, Graham and Palmer

No need to call us 'your excellency', as we are merely a business; if anything, we should be calling you your excellency. Noting your logistical background, the Wolverine is an awsome display of fire power, velocity and manueverability, making it a very good light tank; in fact, it doubles as a potent tank destroyer, penetrating most armour through the side, and all through the rear, with a few through the front. For a light tank it is more than state of the art. The entire order of five thousand will arrive within three and a half years, a very good rate as we are just beginning to pump out units on foreign soil through the deals we've struck with other nations. And no, we hope of doing future business with you. Thank you for your time and for your business.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: Mr. Nathan Lord, Merki

First off, the order has been confirmed although we wish to inquire why the MTAAM-3 was chosen over the newer AAM.176 beyond visual range air to air missile. Regardless, the five thousand missiles will arrive in less than a month's time. Second, DoMUMC has come to the right place with its inquiry, however, we're afraid that the cost is too high! A modern main battle tank, such as the Abrams, costs around 6 million, with the Merkava 4, a glorified IFV, at 4 million. An air portable armoured fighting vehicle should come at around 2.5 million per unit. Now, for the design, how many men do you want the APC to be able to carry, if you had any specific number in mind. Also, how many tons can be SKY CRANE carry, and how many units per SKY CRANE are you expecting to carry? Thank you, and your design will be completed upon the receipt of these questions.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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EDIT:

Hint of a future design:


http://modernwarstudies.net/Lineart/GLI-13.gif
Southeastasia
19-12-2005, 07:40
OOC: Sorry that I haven't made any purchases at all Macabees, but FYI, you forgot to add the Wolverine's dimensions. And as for DMG, I don't see those bumps as nothing. I see it as a sign of dedication to his products.
The Macabees
19-12-2005, 21:58
OOC: Sorry that I haven't made any purchases at all Macabees, but FYI, you forgot to add the Wolverine's dimensions. And as for DMG, I don't see those bumps as nothing. I see it as a sign of dedication to his products.


[OOC: It's all good, and I guess I should put dimensions on it. As for the bumping, I see your point, but it would be much more... how would you say... aethetic to bump in the form of press releases and such - something, I admit, I don't do enough of.]
McKagan
19-12-2005, 22:42
To: McKagan

Kriegzimmer, of course, agrees with your choice of procurement and choice of supplying industry. It is without a doubt that your order has been confirmed, and above that we guarantee that these new weapons will serve your military for quite a while, just because of the general quality. So, for the two assault rifles, the sniper rifle, the pistol and the battlesuit, we ask for a total of six billion United States Dollars, or 3.5 billion McKagan tender. Hopefully, this price is agreeable to the Democratic Imperium as well. If not, as always, Kriegzimmer is willing to negotiate a better deal. Regardless, thank you for the newest order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


That price works. We look forward to being able to field top notch military weapons with our Clandestine personnel.
Merki
20-12-2005, 05:29
To: Mr. Nathan Lord, Merki

First off, the order has been confirmed although we wish to inquire why the MTAAM-3 was chosen over the newer AAM.176 beyond visual range air to air missile. Regardless, the five thousand missiles will arrive in less than a month's time. Second, DoMUMC has come to the right place with its inquiry, however, we're afraid that the cost is too high! A modern main battle tank, such as the Abrams, costs around 6 million, with the Merkava 4, a glorified IFV, at 4 million. An air portable armoured fighting vehicle should come at around 2.5 million per unit. Now, for the design, how many men do you want the APC to be able to carry, if you had any specific number in mind. Also, how many tons can be SKY CRANE carry, and how many units per SKY CRANE are you expecting to carry? Thank you, and your design will be completed upon the receipt of these questions.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


1. We apologize for the mishap in communication. The price for the aerial APC should have read $5.0 million USD.

2. A SKY CRANE helicopter is capable of lifting slightly over 45,000 lbs. Hopefully the helicopter would be able to carry two APC's.

3. The APC would be capable of carrying at least 15-20 men, as well as crew and decent weapon delivery system
Tyimerica
20-12-2005, 06:12
The Nation of Tyimerica would like to purchase 10,000 "FIBS" (Frontline Infantry Battle Suit) at 20,000 USD. At the moment of confirmation, the amount of 200,000,000 USD ($200 Million) will be wired to your account.


Department of Defense
Gregory Holotik
Gregory Holotik
Southeastasia
20-12-2005, 09:56
OOC: Roger that Mac. BTW, when are you going to add an APC? Because it seems that Kriegzimmer Conglomerates has yet to design one to counter other foreign designs.
Praetonia
20-12-2005, 13:25
Global Opportunity
Kriegzimmer, with production problems with the sheer sizes of orders these days, has decided to put out advertisement for the purchase of up to pieces of land one hundred by one hundred kilometers in dimensions for the establishment of new factories. Apart from the purchase of the land governments can take advantage of the employment opportunity, especially when Kriegzimmer pays the same amount of wages it does at home, or the mininum wage of the government in question if it is above the wage of Kriegzimmer, which is doubted, but can happen [a starting worker at Kriegzimmer gets 8 Reichmarks an hour, which is over 10 dollars an hour]. If a government it interested please write an official transmission to Kriegzimmer.
[OOC: You can claim to have a factory in Praetonia if you want. I wont make an IC post, as the IPG does not own 100% of all the land in the entire country, as appears to be the case in other nations (in fact, the Government owns very little land), but you can assume to have bought a suitable piece of land off of some unnamed private citizen or company and planning permission will have been granted. It can be in Praetonia proper, or in any of my colonies - Segmentum Praetonialis (lots of cheap, unskilled labour), Porta Praetoniatam (I wouldnt put it there - it's mostly just professionals and middle class people), Neo-Praetonia (that's not a bad place to put it) or my new Hogsweatia colony, that doesnt have much infrastructure right now. $10 per hour isnt really an impressive wage in Praetonia, but it's good enough to get applicants and more than good enough somewhere like Segmentum Praetonialis.]
The Macabees
21-12-2005, 07:21
1. We apologize for the mishap in communication. The price for the aerial APC should have read $5.0 million USD.

2. A SKY CRANE helicopter is capable of lifting slightly over 45,000 lbs. Hopefully the helicopter would be able to carry two APC's.

3. The APC would be capable of carrying at least 15-20 men, as well as crew and decent weapon delivery system

[OOC: Give me a week to do it; sorry it'll take so long. It'll most likely be up within the next two or three days, but I got a really, really bad cold and it's hard for me to think of anything (headaches and such). But don't worry, it will be worth the wait.]

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To: Gregory Holotik, Tyimerica Department of Defense

Although we are a bit taken aback by the fact that the FIBS was chosen over the Sampson, there will be no problems fulfilling the order. We admit that the cost difference is enticing and the technology differences as well. Nonetheless, we feel that you know what's best for your army, not Kriegzimmer, so will end this badgering. The ten battlesuits will be delivered within two weeks to your nearest port or airport. Thank you for the purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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Southeastasia: Yea, I've been meaning to get out an APC, but I get distracted by other things, such as aircraft and now the third variant to the Cougar. A lot of my designs are now following a path of what's necessary for the country's military armed forces since Kriegzimmer knows that the Empire is what protects its rights to free trade, and in fact is the biggest customer; and plus since there's total war at home Kriegzimmer prefers to center designs around what is necessary for that war. I don't think that the light APC I'm designing for Merki will become standard, and it will most likely be reserved solely for him; but a standard APC should be on the ballot soon - replacing the SOV-6 IFV.

Praetonia: Well, if I were to choose now it would most likely be in Segmentum Praetonalis. I don't think Kriegzimmer would find it wise to put it in any of the other colonies or in homeland simply because of revolving politics. Although, to be truthful, I haven't kept up with your relations with Sarzonia, I assume they're still really good, the Empire has been distancing itself from the WP due to the friends it has chosen over the years - the major ally being Doomingsland. With TSS' resignation from the WP relations have just gotten worse, although Fedor has never done anything public to 'off' the Sarzonian administration - he just hasn't done anything to improve them, either. If war does break out it will probably be centered solely around the colonies, meaning a Kriegzimmer factory there would be a bad idea because naturally you may want to close a factory directly effecting logistics to my armed forces in the region; your homeland, being protective, might do the same; and the other colony, well through Kriegzimmer's increasingly unfair business cycles middle class workers aren't exactly what it's looking for. So, yea, if anything it would be Segmentum Praetonalis. And, regardless, thanks for the offer - hopefully relevations of future conflicts won't change your mind.
Praetonia
21-12-2005, 18:38
Praetonia: Well, if I were to choose now it would most likely be in Segmentum Praetonalis. I don't think Kriegzimmer would find it wise to put it in any of the other colonies or in homeland simply because of revolving politics. Although, to be truthful, I haven't kept up with your relations with Sarzonia, I assume they're still really good, the Empire has been distancing itself from the WP due to the friends it has chosen over the years - the major ally being Doomingsland. With TSS' resignation from the WP relations have just gotten worse, although Fedor has never done anything public to 'off' the Sarzonian administration - he just hasn't done anything to improve them, either. If war does break out it will probably be centered solely around the colonies, meaning a Kriegzimmer factory there would be a bad idea because naturally you may want to close a factory directly effecting logistics to my armed forces in the region; your homeland, being protective, might do the same; and the other colony, well through Kriegzimmer's increasingly unfair business cycles middle class workers aren't exactly what it's looking for. So, yea, if anything it would be Segmentum Praetonalis. And, regardless, thanks for the offer - hopefully relevations of future conflicts won't change your mind.
[OOC: I'm not really bothered by that. Praetonia generally regards relations with Macabees as warm-neutral, as we haven't really done any RPs together, but have also never been hostile. If war were to break out between Praetonia and Macabees, or between Macabees and my allies, or if that specific factory were making munitions for a war conducted against myself or my allies then there may be a case for closing it, but until then the Colonial and central governments would be more than happy to collect taxes from it and enjoy the political and economic advantages of high employment. Generally the government wont take steps against business, domestic or foreign, unless really pushed. Praetonia is much less choosy about allies than perhaps Sarz is, and if we werent direct rivals in so many different areas I doubt there would be hostilities with Doom. So anyway, feel free to build a factory in SP if you want.]
The Macabees
23-12-2005, 05:45
[OOC: Indeed; so Segmentum Praetonalis it is. And yes, the labour required should aid for unemployment, depending on the size of the factory grounds. It would be interesting to have Kriegzimmer provide an ambassador, seperate from the Empire, to Praetonia to ensure the wellbeing of the factory or at least receive forewarning of closure. I wonder how enfuriated Fedor would be to learn that Kriegzimmer is acting like it's own little country. Ah well.]
The Thirteen Tribes
23-12-2005, 14:53
TO: Kriegzimmer Industries

FROM: The Thirteen Tribes Confederacy Joint Military Command [CJMC]

SUBJECT: The Confederacy Joint Military Command is expanding our capabilities. Looking toward the future, we view Kreigzimmer Industries as a reliable, trusted source for the latest military equipment for all fields of battle who comes with reccomendations from well-respected nations across the globe.

In light of this, the Thirteen Tribes CJMC wishes to place an order with Kreigzimmer Industries for the following:

One (1) -- "Mechanized Infantry Division" Package
Two Hundred (200) -- RoLu-17 "Galicia" Attack Helicopter

At a cost of:

$3.47 Billion USD to be wired upon confirmation of the order.

As a second order of business, we wish to enquire about the possibility of contracting Kreigzimmer at some point in the future to design and build a transport/light attack helicopter for service in a role not unlike an airborne APC to transport troops rapidly to combat areas and then provide support fire and local air support.

We trust that Kriegzimmer Industries and The Thirteen Tribes shall have a long and beneficial friendship.


Signed,


Blinding Spear

Chief of Staff,
CJMC
Southeastasia
23-12-2005, 16:03
OOC: Why not keep your IFV? An APC is something different isn't it?
Tyrandis
23-12-2005, 18:37
To: Kriegzimmer Board
From: Tyrandis Precision Machine Import/Export Corporation

Encrypted Transmission

Dear Sirs,

The Imperial Air Force finds itself in the unenviable position of lacking an air intercept munition capable of ranges beyond two hundred kilometers. Noting the proven record of the MTAAM-3 "Silencer" in previous engagements, TPMI/EC has been authorized to acquire twenty thousand for the Tyrandisan government.

Pending confirmation of the order, the sum of $22,000,000,000 USD will be wired to your accounts from our corporate funds.
Pushka
23-12-2005, 18:44
From: Russian Federation VMS budget director Anton Krushev
To: Kriegzimmer Storefront

We would like to purchase the following:

Carrier Battle Group Package x32
Price: 526.40 billion USD

Submergible Package x12
Price: 541.74 billion USD

Production rights for Av.36 Hammerhead MADCAP Heavy Weight Torpedo
Price: Unkown

Production rights for Av.17 'Tiburon' Light Weight Torpedo
Price: Unknown

Production rights for Av.93 'Calisto' Super Cavitation Torpedo
Price: Unknown

Production rights for MT-3 Torpedo
Price: Unknown (specs unknown also)

Production Rights for Shockhound Avenger I air-to-ship; surface-to-ship missile
Price: Unknown

Production Rights for The Principe III
Price: Unknown

Total: 1068.14 Billion USD + unknown
The Macabees
23-12-2005, 23:36
To: The Thirteen Tribes Confederacy Joint Military Command, Chief of Staff

First off, we wish to express our gratitude for your kind words, and yes Kriegzimmer does work to please international military arm bearers with what's up to date. We're astonished to hear, and learn, that our name has been uttered in the international community. The order for the single mechanized division package has been confirmed, as had the order for two hundred Galcian attack helicopters, at the stated price in your letter. The entire package will arrive as one in one and a half months, with the 'Praetorian Mobile Surface to Air Batteries' replaced with the more able Praetorian II which was released after the package. We apologize for the bad information, we will change it immediately. The helicopters will arrive at the same time; fortunately, the military of the Empire does not have much use for helicopters, and so we have a surplus on supply in our international warehouses. We could provide the helicopters much sooner but we feel it would be much easier on you if the entire order was supplied at the same time, if possible.

As for your question on the future design of stated helicopter; yes, it is indeed possible although there would be a few details to hammer out. To give you an example, the helicopter would certainly not be light if expected to be able to tow armoured personnel vehicles, so depending on your needs the helicopter would either have to be heavier, or you would need two seperate designs - from the letter we weren't sure if you were suggesting two designs from the beginning or not, so we apologize for any misconceptions. Regardless, we're very interesting in working with the Confederacy's chief of staff and engineers on any future procurement and design.

And, above all, we're looking foward to the stated friendship between the Thirteen Tribes and Kriegzimmer. It would be an honor to even have something as such. Thank you for your order and thank you for your pleasurable commentary.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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Southeastasia: I could, but the IFV is really an APC with less personnel capacity and a bigger gun. With all things considered the SOV-6 is really just a union between the two ideas, with a sizeable cabin and a relatively small gun [a 15mm chaingun]. The SOV-6 was originally designed between Fluffywuffy and myself for the use with special forces, so I think it's high time to come out with either a replacement or a superior - maybe I'll design both an IFV and APC, but I couldn't tell now.

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To: Tyrandis Precision Machine Import/Export Corporation

Well, we won't lie to you. The reason the Silencer was replaced was due to one big fault - the scramjet engine. To the day of dropping the missile our foes never found a way to defeat it, however, we sure did, and during the opening days of the War of Golden Succession the Empire made good time evading Havenite [SafeHaven2] missiles designed by New Empire, which also used scramjet - forcing them to change the engines to ramjet. So, although we will confirm the order we will also wait for pending input from your government. Or, we would be willing to sell production rights for half the money requested, or ten million, and offer both the blueprints to a ramjet variant and a scramjet variant. It's really up to you; but being truthful, we feel that the AAM.176 is a much more adept design and beyond visual range engagement. Nevertheless, thank you for your interest - it is an honor serving a corporation that no doubt has ties with a much respected aerial design and manufacturing company.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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To: Anton Krushev, Budget Director of the Russian Federation

Welcome to Kriegzimmer. The entire order has been confirmed, and everything listed with a price of unknown we are willing to round the eventual price to one hundred billion, bumping the order to a full 1168.4 billion. Of course, as always this price is negotiable. Anything listed as the want for production rights will be sent by person to your embassy in exactly two weeks, while the thirty-two carrier battle group packages and the twelve submergible packages will be a bit later... a long bit. We will work on the entire order throughout all factory grounds, whether national or international, and so we expect that the submergible packages will arrive at a rate of two per every six months, which means the entire order should be completed within six years. As for the carrier battle groups, the same will be done for them, but we expect something more along the lines of four per year, which means the entire order will be fulfilled within eight years. It truly is a large order, but just as well, we assure you that the wait will be worth the order. Thank you for your business.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Pushka
24-12-2005, 01:08
money wired. And i assume that i can assume that i have all of them right now right?
The Thirteen Tribes
24-12-2005, 03:32
TO: Kreigzimmer Board
FROM: The Thirteen Tribes JMC

SUBJECT: The Joint Military Command thanks Kreigzimmer for their speedy response and for their coopoeration in processing our order. Money has been wired.

Regarding the helicopter design: Though it was not the intention of the Joint Military Command to have the helicopter actually carry an APC, but rather act as an airborne APC of sorts, which would carry troops inside the helicopter to the battle site then act as close air support, the idea of an APC-carrying helicopter is intriguing to the JMC. If you would not mind submitting both designs for consideration, the JMC would be most gratified.

Thank you for your kind words.

Signed

Blinding Spear
Chief of Staff
Thirteen Tribes JMC
The Thirteen Tribes
24-12-2005, 05:07
TO: Kriegzimmer Board

FROM: The Thirteen Tribes JMC Weapons Development Division (JMC-WDD)


SUBJECT: The Thirteen Tribes JMC-WDD has recently developed a new weapons system designed for close-quarters infantry fighting that we believe meets Kriegzimmer's export standards.

Weapons System Specifications

Name: TTS-21 Mk. II "Lassen" Urban Assault Shotgun
Type: Fully Automatic Close Assault 12-gauge Shotgun
Rate of Fire: Automatic (420 Rounds per Minute), Semi-Automatic
Standard Ammunition Type: 12-Gauge Shotgun Shells, 12-Gauge Slug
Specialty Ammunition: CS Tear Gas Shell, CS Tear Gas Penetrator, Dragon Shells, Nonlethal Ammunition, Downrange Explosive Shell* (DES)
Configuration: Bullpup
Clip Size: 20 Round Cassettes
Attatchments: One Accessory Rail Suitable For Laser Range Finder or Rifle-Grenade Launcher.
Weight: 12 lbs.

Miscellaneous: The Lassen carries a small onboard computer that controls the rate of fire, the choke of the weapon when using shells, and the extensive recoil-control system. When the Lassen is loaded with DES ammunition, the computer, through the use of the Laser Range Finder available determines range to target. The computer then sets the shell to explode at a certain distance determined by the computer, essentially giving the Lassen the ability to shoot around corners.

We hope that the Lassen meets your requirements for production. If Kriegzimmer does decide to produce the Lassen, the JMC-WDD would require a 20% royalty fee per unit sold.

[signed]

Wise Serpent
Chief Designer
The Thirteen Tribes JMC-WDD
McKagan
24-12-2005, 05:53
[New Purchase]

The Imperial McKagan Army (IMA) has taken up a colony (in the Hogsweat thing.) Holding a large ammount of land but not alot of coastline (at least porportional,) we have been forced to provide for many troops to hold this area and maintain that the coastline we DO hold remains ours. Our domestic defense corporation is currently providing a massive upgrade to other units, so it is unavailble for contracting. Thus, we require things from Kriegzimmer.


5000 RoLu-17 Galician Attack Helicopter's
5000 Arca. I Cougar Main Battle Tank's
2000 Panzerkampfwaggen XII [Pzkmpf. XII] Wolverine Light Tank's
3000 Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun's


[OOC: Because I gave you land, do I get like more of a discount, or does it remain at 15% or what?]
Spizania
25-12-2005, 22:26
The confederate states of Spizania has found its navy woefully inequiped in the submarine department, we have only 13 submarines and therefore would like to purchase 45(forty-five) Cartegena class SSNs and 15 Tenerife Class SSNs. We would also like to purchase 120 Illium Class Destroyers, 35 Azores Class Fast Attack Craft and 5 More Indestructables to complete our current pattern of naval expansion. The final price for this order comes to 133.6bn US dollars

On the Airforce front we would like to purchase 150 Lu-27 Condor Interceptors for a total price of 40.8bn dollars including our Frequent purchasers discount.

Finally to arm our new fleet we would like to purchase 100,000 Shockhound I avenger AntiShipping Missiles and 50,000 Princep IIIs for 106.25bn US dollars, again including our Frequent buyers discount.

We would like to thank Kreigzimmer for their previous good service and we wish the Kriegzimmer Board a happy Christmas.
Signed, Head of Military Approvals Commitee
The Macabees
25-12-2005, 23:38
Pushka: Yes.

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To:Blinding Spear, Chief of Staff, The Thirteen Tribes
Ah, we understand what you mean. In that case, work will begin immediately on both helicopter designs. We've decide to base them off each other, although understandably the vehicle transporation helicopter will be a bit larger. Specific request works has been going on slower than usual, we are afraid, because of so many designs Kriegzimmer has been putting out lately. Nonetheless, should you approach us in a little while and remind us, there is no doubt we'll have the design close to ready, or ready.

[OOC: This is especially do to the holidays. If the design is not up by next Monday give me a push on this thread and I'll have it up. I think I even forgot to get someone's design up, and I think I have to do a helicopter transportable APC for someone, which has to be up first.]

And please, communicate with your weapons developement commission that the design introduced to Kriegzimmer has been confirmed and will be added to their catalogue immediately. Please, confer with them our gratitude, thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: McKagan
The entire order has been confirmed [OOC: If the factories were stated to have been purely naval, it's only good for naval purchases, if the factories were stated to be both, then it's good for ground, naval and air, while if the factories are only ground, then it's only for ground and air. If you're not sure just give me a copy of what I told you and I'll specify]. The helicopters will be manufactured and sent to your port city in the colonies within six months, while the Arca. I Cougar Ausfva. As will be sent within thirteen months, and the Wolverines within four months, and finally the Corbulos within four months. Thank you for the order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: Spizania
Ah yes, the submarine arm of any navy is a very important service; indeed, for Germany it was it's major service during the Second World War, and even the Americans were able to finally snap the back of the Japanese Imperial Navy through the use of their own silent service. The order for the sixty submarines of two types has been confirmed, and the entire order will be completed within two and a half years. The order for a hundred and fifty Condors has also been confirmed and will be sent within a month, while the entirely huge missile order will be delivered within a year and a half [OOC: Noting the massive missile expenditure in the War of Golden Succession].

Finally, we wish to reiterate, Merry Christmas to Spizania and her people, and a happy New Years.

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Merry Christmas to the world in its entirety, regardless of political ideology. With that said, a very Happy Channuka [OOC: lacking the color white on white], and a Productive Kwanzaa, with regards to any other religious holidays which may take place during this time of year!
Dostanuot Loj
26-12-2005, 03:26
Kriegzimmer, we are interested in making a purchase of thirty of your rifles. A total of fifteen Hali-21, and fifteen Hali-37 rifles are what we wish to order. The total cost I understand will come to $75,000. Money will be sent upon conformation of the order, of course.
The rifles are to be tested and evaluated for data applicable to the DR-2 rifle project currently underway.

- Commanding Officer of Military Procurement,
Colonel K.Utu-Qysni
The Thirteen Tribes
26-12-2005, 06:27
OOC: yeah, that helicopter-transportable APC is for Merki. That's a defunct nation. I sorta lost control of where Merki was going, and made a new nation. Cancel that order for Merki, but the Thirteen Tribes would be interested in something like that, you know, for the helicopters that would carry them you're designing for us. Thanks.

Happy Chanukah! Merry Christmas, and a very Destructive New Year! (This is a Military Tech Company after all)
The Macabees
26-12-2005, 22:37
To: Colonel K.Utu-Qysni, Sumer
The fifteen Hali-37s and fifteen Hali-21s will be sent immediately, as they are surplus in our warehouses. Because the order is for expirementation and the design of your own weapon, it is free of charge. Sumer's money, in respect of this order, is no good at Kriegzimmer. We hope you good luck on your DR-2 project and wish to also make say that we are designing a new rifle as well, although the idealogy behind the build will be most likely different than your own, as we are beginning to look into caseless ammunition and interchangeable muzzle parts. Nevertheless, thank you for regarding the Hali-37 and Hali-21 as important for your upcoming project.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Southeastasia
28-12-2005, 14:50
TO: Kriegzimmer Board
FROM: USNSEA Minister of Defense Paul David Nettleton
SUBJECT: Battlesuit Questions

Dear Esteemed Board Members of Kriegzimmer Conglomerates,

The Southeast Asian Army has been interested in purchasing the BDU-64 "Samson" Battlesuit to help our infantry in this ever evolving, ever dangerous battlefield. But before I can purchase some of those, the military has a few questions:

Is it meant to be for special forces?
What terrain is it best for?
And lastly, do soldiers have additional weight? We hope that in case they end up in deep water (literally!), that they will be able to swim.

As soon as the questions have been answered, we will be willing to make a purchase.

Yours Truly,
His Excellency,
USNSEA Minister of Defense
Paul David Nettleton
Southeastasia
28-12-2005, 20:06
bump
Praetonia
28-12-2005, 20:16
[OOC: Indeed; so Segmentum Praetonalis it is. And yes, the labour required should aid for unemployment, depending on the size of the factory grounds. It would be interesting to have Kriegzimmer provide an ambassador, seperate from the Empire, to Praetonia to ensure the wellbeing of the factory or at least receive forewarning of closure. I wonder how enfuriated Fedor would be to learn that Kriegzimmer is acting like it's own little country. Ah well.]
[OOC: That would be fine, but he wouldnt be recognised as an "Ambassador", nor would he have diplomatic immunity or whathaveyou. He would conference mostly with the Ministry for Trade and Industry and the Colonial Office, as well as relevent SP local authorities.]
Whyatica
28-12-2005, 20:59
Official Communication of the Sultanate of Whyatica
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The Sultanate of Whyatica wishes to order;

1,500 "Praetorian II" Mobile SAM Launchers (2,550,000,000 USD)

72 400mm Coastal RailGuns (Without Power-Plants - Nuclear power will be provided indigenously) [57,600,000 USD]

4 Elusive-Class Battleships (20,000,000,000 USD)

This comes to a total of 22,607,600,000 USD.

Monies will be wired upon confirmation.

Minister Aziz Afnan,
Minister of Defence,
Sultanate of Whyatica
The Macabees
28-12-2005, 23:01
To: Paul David Nettleton, USNSEA Minister of Defense
We're happy to respond to the series of questions introduced to Kriegzimmer and we're glad that a potential customer finally offers some input into the design through questioning. The battlesuit and it's potential uses, whether special forces or regular forces, really depends on the amount of money your nation or rivate sector is prepared to give. For example, the Empire equips all infantry with battlesuits, not only special forces, although others, because of the lack of money or unwillingness to pay to equip their entire armed forces prefer to merely equip their special forces. The ultimate decision is that of the USNSEA. The terrain doesn't really matter; contrary to the photograph provided, the battlesuit can be adapted to whatever terrain you're planning to fight in through the use of its clever technology and through simple conventional change of colors. Although there is a weight of the battlesuit, in the end it still allows the soldier to be light and to have the mobility needed to run, swim, et cetera. Should a soldier literally be forced to swim we have no doubts that a truly prepared soldier would be able to swim. Then again, the battlesuit has never been presented with that exact problem. Hopefully this responds to your questions in a thorough manner!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: Sultanate of Whyatica
Your entire order has been confirmed for the price stated in your telegram. The one thousand five hundred Praetorian IIs will be delivered within three months, while the seventy-two coastal railguns will be delivered within one month, and finally the four Elusive class Battleships within two years [OOC: for all others, I can easilly a lot four wharfs to deal with the construction simultanously]. Thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Pushka
28-12-2005, 23:10
OOC: Mac check on lineart forums need your opinion.
The Thirteen Tribes
28-12-2005, 23:12
OOC: just wondering how the designs are coming along. Hope to see them soon.
Southeastasia
29-12-2005, 04:23
OOC: Mac, why don't you continue selling the stuff the Empire's Army doesn't use anymore, just at less expensive prices? After all, look at the F-4 Phantom, the USAF doesn't use it anymore, but it is used by several other countries to this day (the country I'm from included, Singapore).
Southeastasia
31-12-2005, 06:22
bump
Tyrandis
31-12-2005, 17:27
To: Tyrandis Precision Machine Import/Export Corporation

Well, we won't lie to you. The reason the Silencer was replaced was due to one big fault - the scramjet engine. To the day of dropping the missile our foes never found a way to defeat it, however, we sure did, and during the opening days of the War of Golden Succession the Empire made good time evading Havenite [SafeHaven2] missiles designed by New Empire, which also used scramjet - forcing them to change the engines to ramjet. So, although we will confirm the order we will also wait for pending input from your government. Or, we would be willing to sell production rights for half the money requested, or ten million, and offer both the blueprints to a ramjet variant and a scramjet variant. It's really up to you; but being truthful, we feel that the AAM.176 is a much more adept design and beyond visual range engagement. Nevertheless, thank you for your interest - it is an honor serving a corporation that no doubt has ties with a much respected aerial design and manufacturing company.

To: Kriegzimmer Board

TPMI/EC thanks Kriegzimmer for their honest evaluation of the MTAAM-3 product, and will purchase in place of the Silencer order an equivalent number of AAM.176 weapons. The Tyrandis Imperial Air Force needs the best in order to remain competitive in this ever-dangerous world, and we feel that Kriegzimmer can provide it. As such, the government has authorized our corporation to procure twenty thousand AAM.176 BVRAAMs, as well as production rights. We are confident that the legendary quality of Kriegzimmer products will fulfill our requirements for a beyond visual range munition.

The sum of $13,820,000,000 USD has been wired to your accounts.
The Macabees
31-12-2005, 23:01
OOC: just wondering how the designs are coming along. Hope to see them soon.


[OOC: Tonight, I'm gonna be blind, so not tonight. Starting Monday I have two straight weeks of doing absolutely nothing; all three designs will be up by wenesday or thursday of this week (the APC, and both helicopters).]



Southeastasia: I dunno; I just don't want people to get mixed up with the top quality of Kriegzimmer and the lower quality of Kriegzimmer...but I suppose I could mark older designs with that designation.



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To: Tyrandis Precision Machine Import/Export Corporation
Although legendary is an overstatement, we thank you for the compliment. The twenty thousand AAM.176 BVR air to air missiles will be manufactured and shipped within three months, while the productions right will be sent immediately to your headquarters or general staff location. We guarantee you, however, that with the AAM.176 your aircraft, especially with the quality instilled within Tyrandis designed and manufactured birds, will be beyond competitive. Thank you for trusting in Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Saint Fedski
31-12-2005, 23:27
To: Kriegzimmer Board
From: Sir Louis Riel, Minister of Defence, Commonwealth of Saint Fedski
Re: Long Range

This is the first time that any member of the Commonwealth of Saint Fedski has shopped here and it is also the first time the Commonwealth as a whole has shopped here. The Commonwealth Air Force has issued a new directive requiring long range and/or heavy air-superiority fighters.

Currently, the Air Force is equipped with the F-16+ which is an F-16 airframe and body, updated with modern avionics and engines far superior to what the original held. However, the airframs themselves are becoming old and beginning to deteriorate faster than they can be repaired. The new CF-17 Light Fighter has been replacing the F-16+ for the past year. The CF-17 is an extremely small, agile but hard hitting fighter with a combat range limited to 1,300km. That's good for protection and attacks not too far inside enemy territory, but it leaves a void for deep penetrating attacks well behind the lines or on a completely different front.

What can you suggest we use for the deep, penetrating attacks?

[signed]
Sir Louis Riel
Minister of Defence
Commonwealth of Saint Fedski
McKagan
01-01-2006, 02:33
[New Purchase - Priority]

The Imperial McKagan Air Force is faced with a great, possible future threat. We require the PRIORITY shipment of 1000 Lu-45 Hawks. We are willing to pay an added fee onto this to aquire any shipments that may have been going to other nations or even your own military. Please send these units to the McKagan colony of Libertad.
The Macabees
01-01-2006, 02:49
To: Sir Louis Riel, Minister of Defence, Commonwealth of Saint Fedski
Well, we would like to welcome Saint Fedski to Kriegzimmer, first of all. We assure you that the quality instilled in Kriegzimmer products is well worth stopping by to look around our catalogue. With that said, let us rush into respond to your inquiry.

It should be cleared up the more powerful engine upgrades are not necessarilly the best way to look into improving your aircraft. Good preformance has as much to do about the engines as it has to do with thrust to weight issues, airframe issues, et cetera. Regardless, Kriegzimmer has a single top generation air superiority fighter, the Lu-45, and for long range air superiority the Lu-45 Hawk is your best bet. We have an older fighter, not sported on the catalogue, called the Lu-5, and it is a bit less in quality, but nonetheless an excellent fighter and cheaper at that. The Hawk, however, is not designed for air to ground strikes, and that job is either lent to the GLI-76 Falcon or the Lu-12 Canary, both multi-role strike fighters. The choice on what job you want these birds to complete is up to you, and Kriegzimmer has presented you with four viable choices.

Should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to ask Kriegzimmer. We will answer as soon as possible and as thoroughly as possible.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: McKagan
Our nation is at war and therefore we can't just simply ask the Laerihans to transfer a thousand of their aircraft to you, which would be normal in such an order. Nonetheless, we are willing to set priority to McKagan for this month, in the stead of the Empire, meaning that the one thousand Lu-45s will be manufactured and sent priority. The absolute best time table we can give is three weeks, or twenty-four days to be exact. Should this not be a good timetable we will attempt to speak with the administration of the Empire. However, the Laerihans has taken quite a beating over Ruska and is only now beginning to turn the battle around in its favour. Even then, the outcome is iffy. Nonetheless, we will do what we can.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
01-01-2006, 03:09
To: McKagan
Our nation is at war and therefore we can't just simply ask the Laerihans to transfer a thousand of their aircraft to you, which would be normal in such an order. Nonetheless, we are willing to set priority to McKagan for this month, in the stead of the Empire, meaning that the one thousand Lu-45s will be manufactured and sent priority. The absolute best time table we can give is three weeks, or twenty-four days to be exact. Should this not be a good timetable we will attempt to speak with the administration of the Empire. However, the Laerihans has taken quite a beating over Ruska and is only now beginning to turn the battle around in its favour. Even then, the outcome is iffy. Nonetheless, we will do what we can.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

Twenty four days is far better than we had expected and will accept that time.
Southeastasia
01-01-2006, 07:12
bump

BTW Macabees, what carriers did you base the Empire's carriers off?
The Macabees
01-01-2006, 18:19
bump

BTW Macabees, what carriers did you base the Empire's carriers off?

[OOC: The Nimitz; then I just increased everything, and kept a good length to draft ratio.]
Southeastasia
02-01-2006, 05:47
bump
Saint Fedski
02-01-2006, 07:49
To: Kriegzimmer Board
From: Louis Riel
Re: Aircraft

Thank you for your extremely prompt response. The aircraft is needed for long range bomber escorts with the ability to engage enemy fighters several times while flying such missions. The fighter is also needed to be an exceptional air superiority fighter when protecting land and naval vessels mostly to compliment the CF-17 light fighter. In simple terms, the new fighter will escort bombers, maintain control territory deep within enemy territory while the CF-17 controls the air over the battlefield and the immediate area behind the lines.

[signed]
Louis Riel
Southeastasia
02-01-2006, 08:28
[OOC: Mac, you need to fix the Galacia's second photo, as it's messed up.]

TO: Kriegzimmer Board
FROM: USNSEA Minister of Defense Paul David Nettleton
SUBJECT: Order

Dear Kriegzimmer Board

The Union has been eyeing the Lu-25 'Black Mariah' SVTOL Multi-Role Aircraft as we feel that it is time to retire our advanced, but limited F-35 Joint Strike Fighters. So in order to verify whether it is neccessary, we wish to buy forty of the aforementioned aircraft for testing. The payment of 3,200,000,000 (USD) shall be wired upon the confirmation of the order.

Yours Truly,
His Excellency,
USNSEA Minister of Defense
Paul David Nettleton
The Macabees
02-01-2006, 22:20
To: Louis Riel, Saint Fedski
If long range and cut superiority in its field is what you desire then the Lu-45 Hawk is the aircraft of your dreams. A foreign design that you may be interested in, if the Lu-45 Hawk is not your cup of tea, is the DAS-2 by the Isselmere aerospace companies. Although in the end we rather have you buy the Hawk, we cannot discount the fact that the DAS-2 is another alternative. If you're truly looking elsewhere we do not suggest any Portland Iron Works aircraft, especially after the merge with SUNACS, simply because we see that half of their designs on the aircraft are rather superflous. Although PIW is a wonderful company, we deem the DAS-2 and the Lu-45 Hawk as the better air superiority fighters that export companies offer. Thank you for your interest!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: From an OOC standpoint, a good aircraft matters little. I can do wonders with Kriegzimmer technology, but I've sold it and gotten people that have called it 'worthless'. The power behind anything is a good role play. Just an OOC point of view.]

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To: USNSEA Minister of Defense Paul David Nettleton
We feel that your decesion to replace the F-35s with Lu-25 Black Mariahs was a very good choice. From a surface analysis we're guessing that you were looking for the same stealth benefits but with a higher weapon payload. If that's the case the Lu-25 is the bird for you; if not, the we feel that the GLI-76 is a better designed aircraft, although it lacks the high payload capabilities of the Black Mariah. Regardless, they are both wonderful designs. The forty aircraft will be manufactured and delivered within two weeks, for the price aforementioned. Thank you for the order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
02-01-2006, 22:48
[OOC: How many Lu-45's have you had shot down, Mac? I'm just curious. Also, are you going to replace the Canary?]
The Macabees
02-01-2006, 22:55
[OOC: How many Lu-45's have you had shot down, Mac? I'm just curious. Also, are you going to replace the Canary?]

[OOC: The Lu-25 and GLI-76 are quasi-replacements of the Canary; in fact, I only use the GLI-76, except on my SDs, which I use the Lu-25. I don't mind the lower payload because I don't really missile spam any longer anyways. So far I've only used the Lu-45 twice, both in the same war [War of Golden Succession], and I lost about eight over Haven [SafeHaven2], and maybe around a squadron over Jagada's colony. The second time was because I underestimated his defenses, the first time because I was outnumbered at least five to one, and I downed much more of his.]
Saint Fedski
02-01-2006, 23:14
To: Kriegzimmer Board
From: Sir Louis Riel, Minister of Defence, Commonwealth of Saint Fedski
Re: Lu-45 Hawk

The Commonwealth of Saint Fedski would like to purchase 100 of the LU-45 Hawk. They will undergo extensive testing in both training and combat situations. Providing a successful test, the Commonwealth would like to reserve the right to purchase domestic production rights. Your help and advice is greatly appreciated.

[signed]
L. Riel
The Macabees
02-01-2006, 23:42
To: Sir Louis Riel, Minister of Defence, Commonwealth of Saint Fedski
The order has been confirmed, for United States Legal Tender. The one hundred Lu-45 Hawks will be manufactured and delivered in five weeks, a restraint on manufacture produced by the fact that we recently committed ourselves to a priority order to McKagan. Should you be content with the design production rights can, indeed, be sold for domestic manufacture. And thank [i]you for your business.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Milesists
03-01-2006, 00:00
To: Kriegzimmer Board
From: Cyberwulf, Emperor Of Milesists
Re: Equipment Order

I wish to purchase the following Packages:
Mechanized Infantry Division Package x 4
Armor Division Package x 5
Carrier Battle Group Package x 5
Submergible Package x 3
You will be wired the payment upon delivery

Signed,
Cyberwulf, Emperor Of Milesists, Defender Of the Arcane Region Of Deceit.
Southeastasia
03-01-2006, 03:47
[OOC: From an OOC standpoint, a good aircraft matters little. I can do wonders with Kriegzimmer technology, but I've sold it and gotten people that have called it 'worthless'. The power behind anything is a good role play. Just an OOC point of view.]
OOC: Agreed. The reason why I'm retiring my RL stuff is merely to get a small advantage over my enemies.
Amestria
03-01-2006, 05:37
Secret Message from the State of Amestria's Military Central Command

The State of Amestria wishes to purchase 100 Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Guns, 100 400mm Coastal Rail Guns, and 100 Praetorian II Mobile Surface to Air Missile Launchers. The Amestrian Governments can pay cash up front.

[signed]
General of the Armies Louis Armstrong
Southeastasia
03-01-2006, 05:42
OOC: TM, did you get my TG regarding my request?
The Macabees
03-01-2006, 06:01
[OOC: Any telegrams that need urgent reading leave me a message or I won't read them until the next day; I don't read my telegrams that often. But, I responded SEA - hopefully you won't be too mad. I sold to Jagada when Jagada was at war with me for those reasons, as well.]

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To: Cyberwulf, Emperor Of Milesists, Defender Of the Arcane Region Of Deceit.
Welcome to Kriegzimmer. The order has been confirmed for [insert price tag here] USD, and if needed the money can be wired in a certain time span to allow for easement of payment. The four mechanized divisions will be delivered in four shipments, each three months apart. The armoured packaged will be sent in the same time span with the same lenghts, adding another three months for the fifty package. The submerged packages and carrier battle group packages will be manufactured, completed and delivered within five years [OOC: for our purposes, five RL days]. Thank you for the order; we guarantee the quality of weapons.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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{1024 bit encryption}


To: Louis Armstrong, General of the Armies, Amestria
Welcome to Kriegzimmer, and you need not worry about Imperial diplomacy, as Kriegzimmer is independent and is allowed to sell to anybody due to economic doctrine. The order has been confirmed without doubt. The one hundred Corbulos will be delivered within the month, as will the Praetorian IIs and the rail guns. The money can be delivered through cash or through the bank - it matters little to us. Thank you for your business. Unfortunately, because of our own doctrine, our ships do not carry the Imperial flag, and we have already been warned by Fedor that our ships may be sunk if supplying the enemy. You don't need to worry about that for this order since the Empire has not declared belligerence, but it may become a problem at a later date. We do not own our own escorts, and only get escorted by the Empire when it is relevent for the Empire to do so. Anyways, good luck in the future!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Whyatica
03-01-2006, 17:01
Official Communication of the Sultanate
We of the Sultanate are returning to the fine storefront of Kriegzimmer for these purposes;

We wish to order:
TWO (2) Zealous Class Super-Dreadnaught WITH Full Compliment of Aircraft
400 Billion USD

TEN (10) CLN-68 Morsky-Orol Class Light Cruiser
15 Billion USD

TWO (2) Argentine class Galleon
260 Billion USD

TEN (10) Paramount class ADV
7 Billion USD

TOTAL:
682 Billion USD

Money will be wired upon confirmation.

Minister Aziz Afnan,
Minister of Defense,
Sultanate of Whyatica
The Macabees
04-01-2006, 06:06
To: Aziz Afnan, Minister of Defense, Sultanate of Whyatica
Thank you for your kind words; your order, of course, has been confirmed. The two Zealous' will be contructed at the same time and delivered within twenty months. The ten Morsky-Orols will be contructed and sent within twelve months, while the two Argentines within the same time as the Zealous' [twenty months], and finally, the Paramounts within eighteen months. The total of 682 billion USD has been confirmed. Thank you for your compliments and for your business!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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[OOC: The Thirteen Tribes, I just got back from a snowboarding trip so I'm free for the rest of the week. Your personnel transport helicopter, the cargo helicopter and the APC will be put up tomorrow for review and you can see if it's what you wanted or not, and tell Kriegzimmer to improve on it - I will also be releasing a heavy APC for the replacement of the SOV-6...sorta like the Merkava IV, but better. It will technically be a light battle tank, doubling as an APC...it might interest you, maybe not. Regardless, all three designs I will try to put up tomorrow. Sorry for the wait.]
Amestria
04-01-2006, 08:25
Secret Message from the Amestrian Occupation Authorities Central Command (Torontia)

We wish to purchase two hundred Praetorian II Mobile Surface to Air Missile Launchers. We can pay cash up front. We wish the launchers to be delivered to Western Torontia as soon as possible.

[signed]
General of the Armies Basque Gran, Supreme Commander of the Amestrian Occupation Authority
Tocrowkia
04-01-2006, 09:22
The Tocrowkian Reich requests 9 Sledgehammer Anti-Dreadnought Missiles. We are currently engaged in a major Naval battle with enemy forces, and the ADM’s would give the Reich a much greater chance of victory. We can pay the cash up front and now, so there is no need for debt.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-
Southeastasia
04-01-2006, 17:11
bump
The Macabees
04-01-2006, 17:55
To: Basque Gran, Supreme Commander of the Amestrian Occupation Authority
Welcome back! The two hundred Praetorian IIs will be manufactured within the month, then take a week to travel from the colonies to Western Torontia, meaning the entire order will be complete in five weeks. The money transfer will be done on the docks of Torontia, and the 'deal' will be finalized. Thank you for your business.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: Reich Foreign Ministry
Welcome to Kriegzimmer! The nine sledgehammers will be delivered immediately to your logistics shipping, which can send them themselves to your fleet if necessary. Payment will be done through an electrical wire. Thank you for the order and we guarantee that the sledgehammers will do their job quite well!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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The Thirteen Tribes: Here you go; analize and tell me to improve at will. Procurement costs are if you ever want to sell them yourself.

XKh-74 Cargo Helicopter
Description: The XKh-74 is designed for very heavy lift capabilities, able to ferry even light armoured vehicles if necessary. It was designed by Kriegzimmer for The Thirteen Tribes upon request, and easy to say it preforms quite advance capabilities. The XKh-74 can also be modified to carry heavy bomb loads for tactical bombardment, although it's primary mission will solely be cargo capabilities.
Main Rotor: Six Bladed Titanium-Aluminum Construction.
Tail Rotor: Four bladed; heavy contruction.
Engines: Two Lu-344-C High Bypass Turbofans.
Total Thrust: 26,000 lbf.
Total Weight Capabilities: 35 Tons
Length: 27.4 meters.
Height: 8.2 meters.
Ceiling: 9,000 meters.
Airframe: Armoured to protect against small arms fire.
Procurement Cost: 16 million


XKh-13 Multi-Role Cargo Helicopter
Description: The XKh-13 is a personnel transport helicopter that doubles as an airborne attack helicopter, making use of a versatile weapon load to support the men it drops after the drop, making it as a perfect close air support aircraft. It was designed by Kriegzimmer for The Thirteen Tribes to fulfill this role and initial testing gave it a very positive outlook.
Main Rotor: Six Bladed Titanium-Aluminum Construction.
Tail Rotor: Four bladed; heavy contruction.
Engines: Two 16,000shp turboshafts
Troop Space: 12
Armaments:
Nose mounted 12.7mm heavy machinegun
Side door mounted 7.62mm light machinegun
Length: 17.3m
Height: 7.4m
Ceiling: 300m
Airframe: Armoured to protect against small arms, with minor stub pylons for greater manuevering.
Procurement Cost: 12 Million

What type of APC did you want? Light or heavy? Anything in special? The helicopters have a poor description, but it's the bare facts. Anything you want me to improve or add?
Spizania
04-01-2006, 18:28
OOC: I want my air Battleship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Macabees
04-01-2006, 22:43
Hali-42 Assault Rifle
http://modernwarstudies.net/Lineart/bullrsm1.png
[This wonderful drawing was done by Mekugi.]


Abstract:
The Hali-42 is the next generation assault rifle designed for use in the Macabee army, destined to replace the long worn Hali-21, which has been the mainstay of Macabee forces for over a decade. The new rifle is the product of better understanding of rifle mechanics, as well as the developement of newer technologies that guarantee the superiority of the Hali-42 over older designs, although the project takes a wild turn away from previous design dogmatics, including a once determined stance on keeping the conventional rifle configuration, and the uses of caseless and cased ammunition. There has also been a very steep change in manufacturing technologies and rifle theoretics that have called for a change in the conentional 5.56mm NATO round to something radically different and lighter, although no less lethal, with even less recoil. The Hali-42 is within all meanings of the name, the epitome of Macabee rifle design, never known for its small arms ordnance.

The rifle uses a bullpup configuration, following the recent rise of bullpup rifles, but attempts to capitalize on the configuration to increase potential muzzle velocity, allowing for greater penetration. It also relies on caseless ammuntion, as opposed to cased ammunition, and Kriegzimmer has underscored this by converting manufacturing to mostly caseless ammunition, although it keeps the manufacturing of cased ammunition to be able to remain selling the Hali-21 and Hali-37 in the foreign market. There has also been a very new change in the propellant, and in general length ratios of the barrel to the rest of the rifle. The designated marksman rifle as includes very powerful scope technology.

Furthermore, unlike its predecessor, the Hali-21, the Hali-42 is an assault rifle in all aspects of the name. The Hali-21 was more accurately a battle rifle, using a 7.62mm round, which is one of many reasons why the change from Hali-21 to Hali-42 ultimately occured. The Hali-42 project also made the decision of ignoring international conventionals, and opted to use more lethal, but less 'civlized' round technology, including the use of the barbette. In the end, every little changed detail makes the Hali-42 amongst the more potentially lethal assault rifles in use around the world.

The Ejermacht has announced its decision to replace all existing Hali-21 rifles with the newer Hali-42, and it's expected that the international world will respond as well - mostly those that used the Hali-21 as their standard assault rifle design. This includes at least one million rifles for frontline use in the Ejermacht alone, not including stocks for reserves and replacement. The Hali-42 has the potential of being a very widely used assault rifle.

Operation and Recoil:
This particular assault rifle operates on delayed blowback, seen in action on the Heckler & Koch G3. This is to allow the rifle all the advantages of a blowback operation without limiting range or eventual muzzle velocity. Interestingly, the first prototype of the Hali-42 actually used an inertia operation on the rifle, but theoritically, the delayed blowback can be translated into a delayed inertia, offering all the recoil operations of an inertia weapon and giving it the power an effective assault rifle needs. A lot of inspiration to incorporate the delayed blowback, roller lock operation came from the Spanish CETME modelo 58 [now replaced], which's initial design was based off the model 45 Assault Rifle.

Further recoil is handled by the exceptionally small round in use [see below], a two round burst as opposed to a three round burst, and a muzzle break. Unfortunately, all these designs are counteracted by the fact that the rifle uses a magnum configuration, powering a 73 grain round with a large binary liquid propellant.

Frequent Rounds Operated:
.221 Aluminum Orchomenos
The new .221 bullet design is designed to keep the underestimated possiblities of the .221 Fireball, but to make it even lighter, allowing for an even greater achieved muzzle velocity. Total weight of the round is 73 grains. The rifle round has excellent aerodynamic properties at long ranges, mirroring that of the Fireball, which has already been suggested by many to replace standard NATO rifle rounds for the M-16 . In fact, throughout its history, the .221 Fireball has been underestimated by most. Fortunately, its cause has been understood by Kriegzimmer, and so an improved version was destined for use on the Hali-42. At the tip the round uses a series of barbettes, first used in the American Civil War, and it's designed to cause major damage within the impact zone, making the round harder to extract, and more damaging to the human body. Beyond that, the round also uses a delayed electrical spark fuze, allowing the round to puncture, then blow, causing the explosion to theoritically occur inside the victim's body, not on impact. Maximum muzzle velocity with the .221 Orchomenos has been caught at 1,070 meters per second.
[b].223 API Orchomenos
The .223 API Orchomenos is an armor piercing projectile designed to penetrate battle suits at high velocities. The round replaces the .221 Orchomenos when an enemy is known to use battle suits, but normally, the rifle uses the .221 version. This round also uses an internal barbette to maximize potential damage, with a delayed fuze.
.221 Binary Sarin Orchomenos Biological Round
In compliance with foreign needs, a variant of the .221 Orchomenos was designed to carry Sarin to make it even deadlier. Although not standard in Macabee forces, it is a round manufactured by Kriegzimmer. In order to increase shelf life the Sarin is composed and stocked in a binary method, making shelf life rather irrelevent. The round spins on terminal flight to produce the effects of Sarin. On impact the round will cause bleeding at several points on the subject, and permanent damange to the central nervous system, possibly killing them, but more likely to put them out of action indefinately. The Ejermacht has ruled out the use of Sarin rounds, but it is a popular export. Muzzle velocity, since the round is a tad heavier, is around 990 m/s.
Additional Information:
The Hali-42's barrel is fully modular, allowing it to be exchanged quite easily by camp forges in order to use other rounds. It can also be sold with a specialized muzzle to cope with the purchasing nation's round of choice, allowing the Hali-42 to be highly versatile and not dependent on the round in use by the Ejermacht. In other words, the barrel is interchangeable, although not on the field. The rest of the rifle is modular as well, making cheap replacement parts for the rifle easy, and making for a very simple cleaning operation.

Calibre: .221 Orchomenos [capable of using the .223, .224, .225 and .220]
Operation: Delayed Inertia/Blowback
Overall Length: 113cm
Barrel Length: 64cm
Bayonet Length: 33cm
Weight [Empty]: 4.4kg
Propellant: Preforated Chemical Binary Liquid Propellant
Magazine Capacity: 45 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 1,070 m/s
Rate of Fire: 750 rounds per minute
Semi-Automatic: Two round burst
Maximum Effective Range: 640 meters
Procurement Cost: 3,200 USD
Production Rights: 3.2 billion USD
Amestria
05-01-2006, 00:04
To: Basque Gran, Supreme Commander of the Amestrian Occupation Authority
Welcome back! The two hundred Praetorian IIs will be manufactured within the month, then take a week to travel from the colonies to Western Torontia, meaning the entire order will be complete in five weeks. The money transfer will be done on the docks of Torontia, and the 'deal' will be finalized. Thank you for your business.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Secret Response from the Amestrian Occupation Authority

Do to the tense nature of the situation here and Torontia's abundance of unused airports, the AOA wonders whether the Kriegzimmer Board could have the order flown in. The AOA understands the cost of delivery would be higher and is willing to pay more to offset that fact.

[signed]
General of the Armies Basque Gran, Supreme Commander of the Amestrian Occupation Authority
Halberdgardia
05-01-2006, 00:36
[OOC: Mac, please check your TGs. Also, a TAG for a likely order on the new Hali, and a question: how would the new Hali's performance change with a 5.56mm or 7.62mm round, as opposed to the new .221-.225 rounds it currently accepts? Finally, would it be possible to create that sarin round in a larger caliber?]
Saint Fedski
05-01-2006, 02:33
[TOP SECRET]
To: Kriegzimmer Board
From: The Security Council of the Commonwealth of Saint Fedski
Re: Sales

Intelligence Bureau reports are suggesting that the State of Amestria accquiring weapons and heavy equipment from the Kriegzimmer Board. This is causing some concerns among the members of the Security Council. It is asked, that if you are supplying the Amestrian Armed Forces as the reliable reports indicate, that you refrain from continuing. It is imperative to the security of the Commonwealth of Saint Fedski that such equipment not be permitted to fall into the hands of the dangerous Amestrians.

As you may or may not know, there is a small conflict in the nation of Torontia. The Intelligence reports indicate that the Kriegzimmer equipment is on mainland Amestria and has yet to make it to Torontia. In order to prevent the equipment from reaching Torontia, all vessels not bound for Commonwealth protected ports will be subject to a search. If such equipment is found to be on the ship, the ship in question may be turned back. Alternatively, if the equipment is capable of serving the needs of the Commonwealth or of the Torontian Armed Forces, the vessel(s) and crew(s) may be siezed without notice. Any captured crew members will be held until their ship has been unloaded and refueled. They will then be sent on their way with an empty ship. As a final measure, if the ships have the balls to attempt to avoid the search, they may be sunk, following a warning shot or two.

[signed]
Sir Louis Riel, Minister of Defence
McKagan
05-01-2006, 02:45
[OOC: For starters, all trade here is TOP SECRET and you CANNOT know about it. Futhermore, I don't want to even BEGIN to hear you bitch when the Macabees land a massive fleet in Torontia to protect free trade.]
Saint Fedski
05-01-2006, 02:51
[OOC: If I see equipment that only Mac sells, who would I logically link the source? I know it wouldn't be DMG. I know it wouldn't be Sarzonia, I know it wouldn't be anybody but Mac.]
The Macabees
05-01-2006, 03:03
[OOC First:
Hal, the idea behind using the .221 was to achieve the best velocity possible, even though the round is inherently weaker than a .223. It was designed to be as light as possible. But, going at 1,070 meters per second would guarantee penetration, regardless of the fact that it's an aluminum round, and the barbette guarantees an out of action or kill. The barbette is actually against the Geneva Convention, but the Ejermacht can care less about that. If you actually want to use another round that would be logistically easier to use, if you use the 5.56, whether NATO or Soviet, it will fit. On the other hand, the 7.62 that was featured on the Hali-21 made the Hali-21 a battle rifle, with much more recoil. The Hali-42 has cheaper logistics [a smaller round] and is a better design altogether. Nonetheless, if you wish to keep the larger round, the Hali-42 can be manufactured with a barrel to fit the larger round. So, all is not lost.

For others, the Empire is neutral. Kriegzimmer has armed convoys, but nothing spectacular.]


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{1024 Bit Encryption}


To:Basque Gran, Supreme Commander of the Amestrian Occupation Authority
Indeed, it can be airlifted from the colonies, but it will require rougly around ten million more United States Dollars. To put it bluntly, each of our modified Archimede Lever's can only carry so much, so it will require quite a bit of airtime, as well as an additional two weeks to make all the flights. In the end, the equipment will make it, but for further use we really suggest that the AOA put money into the construction of at least temporary ports in Torontio to ease the flow of supplies. Nonetheless, Kriegzimmer is here to bend around the client's wishes, so we will do as much as is needed.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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{1024 Bit Encryption}


To: Sir Louis Riel, Minister of Defence
We understand your concern and are very well aware of the situation in Torontio. If we may be fair, however, there has been no act of belligerence yet, and so free trade should by international law continue. Nonetheless, we understand the point you are attempting to make. But, to put it in best terms, Kriegzimmer prides itself as the epitome of free trade and absolute capitalism. We sell even to the enemies of the Empire. With that said, we absolutely will not cease shipments to Amestria. Although we do not mean to put this in such a belligerent tone, the best way to explain our position is to put it bluntly. Which we have. Hopefully, Saint Fedski and its administration understands this.

With that said, Saint Fedski has rights to sink shipments of war material to Amestria if in a state of war. But the consequences should be apparent. Our merchant ships, outfitted with light cannon [we are a weapons conglomerate!], will open fire on any of your ships attempting to get close. If you sink them, you will be at war with Amestria. The Empire, we can say now, will not step in, for they are allied to Hailandkill. Nonetheless, Kriegzimmer should be treated like a nation, for he have the power to make and break them. It is your choice to sink, but all consequences should be held in mind.

Up to now, Amestria has purchased limited sales, and so should not be of major concern. We will not disclose further purchases, for it is their choice to make it public, not ours. Nevertheless, we do not think it wise to sink our convoys at this point in time [OOC: Although, in the end Kriegzimmer cares less since it just means more profit]. Good day sirs.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Owner, Dietrich Harbinger
McKagan
05-01-2006, 03:03
[OOC: Because you obviously are looking right at the locations where that equipment would be deployed and it is obvious that 200 AA systems would not only be purchased, but moved to and installed in Torontia in under 24 RL hours. :rolleyes: If time is moving that fast, my naval forces are going to start taking 5 RL minutes to show up on location.]
Saint Fedski
05-01-2006, 03:17
[OOC: OF course I'm looking right at the locations where the equipment is going upm remember I'm looking at invading Amestria, so when I see one hundred 400mm Coastal Rail Guns go up along the coast I'm looking to invade...]
Amestria
05-01-2006, 03:20
{1024 Bit Encryption}


To:Basque Gran, Supreme Commander of the Amestrian Occupation Authority
Indeed, it can be airlifted from the colonies, but it will require rougly around ten million more United States Dollars. To put it bluntly, each of our modified Archimede Lever's can only carry so much, so it will require quite a bit of airtime, as well as an additional two weeks to make all the flights. In the end, the equipment will make it, but for further use we really suggest that the AOA put money into the construction of at least temporary ports in Torontio to ease the flow of supplies. Nonetheless, Kriegzimmer is here to bend around the client's wishes, so we will do as much as is needed.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Secret Response from the Amestrian Occupation Authority

Western Torontia is not suffering a shortage of Port Space, but transporting the weapons by sea may lead to attempts at obstruction. Having personally overseen the management of an aerial supply campaign I know very well the difficulties and logistics involved. The AOA has no objection to paying an additional 10 million USD. Notify the Amestrian Military Central Command when the weapons are completed and ready for shipment and Amestria will arrange air-protection from a neutral nation.

[signed]
General of the Armies Basque Gran, Supreme Commander of the Amestrian Occupation Authority
McKagan
05-01-2006, 03:21
[OOC: OF course I'm looking right at the locations where the equipment is going upm remember I'm looking at invading Amestria, so when I see one hundred 400mm Coastal Rail Guns go up along the coast I'm looking to invade...]

[OOC: Of COURSE those railguns were built/installed. within five minutes of him ordering them. :rolleyes: ]
Amestria
05-01-2006, 03:24
[OOC: Of COURSE those railguns were built/installed. within five minutes of him ordering them. :rolleyes: ]

OOC: I waited awhile and then posted on their instillation using fluid time...

And Mckagan/Saint Fedski, I suggest you delete the OOC, let us not clutter up this thread...

[OOC: I saw Amestria's post and made the statement based on that. Yes it was complete bullshit on Amestria's part. But its been done. I'm finished with the OOC in Mac's thread. Sorry for the hijack.]

It was not bullshit, by the time they are of military relevence they would be fully installed (they are being installed by over two million troops). I just wanted to get it out of the way and that is what fluid time is for.
Saint Fedski
05-01-2006, 03:26
[OOC: Of COURSE those railguns were built/installed. within five minutes of him ordering them. :rolleyes: ]
[OOC: I saw Amestria's post and made the statement based on that. Yes it was complete bullshit on Amestria's part. But its been done. I'm finished with the OOC in Mac's thread. Sorry for the hijack.]
McKagan
05-01-2006, 03:26
OOC: I waited awhile and then posted on their instillation using fluid time...

[OOC: I really MUST start reading things better. Sorry. Caused by me not having as much time anymore.]
The Macabees
05-01-2006, 03:28
[OOC: I don't mind; it racks up the post count.]
HailandKill
05-01-2006, 03:45
[OOC: Im lazy right now, and since I am talking to you on AIM anyway I am gonna put the order up very badly.]

We would like to order production rights to the corbulo self propelled artillery gun, and the ms2000 panzerwerfer. Money wired.
Southeastasia
05-01-2006, 17:32
OOC: Some of the pic links are fudged up Mac, like the Praetorian II and the Galacia attack chopper...
Spizania
05-01-2006, 17:53
OOC: I can order MWS stuff here right?

MWS:
The Senatus Populesque Romanus would like to request that the [insert name here, i am not sure if your using Kriegzimmers name] come up with an divisional composistion using units similar to those used in the Legions of the Ceasar Pompeii War (OOC: You know my tech well enough doont you?"

NS:
Confederate States of Spizania wishes to order 15 million Hali-42 Assault Rifles, the money has been wired
The Macabees
05-01-2006, 18:20
To: Hailandkill
The production rights to the Corbulos Self Propelled Field Gun, and the M2000 Panzerwerfer can, indeed, be sold. With that said, they will be sold for a total of twelve billion United States Dollars, and upon the transfer of the payment, the blueprints will be delivered to the Killian embassy. Thank you for the order; we guarantee you will fall in love with the designs. The Ejermacht has!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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SEA: Yea, I figured out why; I deleted the folder on my servers, deleting the pictures along with them. I have to reupload them when I get to my other computer.

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To: Senatus Populesque Romanus [and Spizania]

OOC: Bah, I'm wayyy too lazy to give an IC answer. Expect the rifles in 32 months, and I'll get to working on divisional compositions. But, I'll give you an idea OOC of what it could look like:

Mechanized Division:
5,000 Mechanized Infantry
200 APCs/IFVs
300 Artillery Guns

For the armoured division; there's nothing really you can copy off Rome. Roman cavalry worked seperately, and they were most of the time additions to the legions.
HailandKill
05-01-2006, 18:23
[OOC: Mac, remember how we considered the other artillery gun, and the battlesuit I wanted added to the list above assumed to be transferred. Can we do the same with the H-42, I forgot to mention that last nite. Oh and ICly the money is wired from my 1+ trillon dollar military budget.
The Macabees
05-01-2006, 18:26
[OOC: Mac, remember how we considered the other artillery gun, and the battlesuit I wanted added to the list above assumed to be transferred. Can we do the same with the H-42, I forgot to mention that last nite. Oh and ICly the money is wired from my 1+ trillon dollar military budget.

[OOC: Oops, just assume it all confirmed.]
Halberdgardia
06-01-2006, 03:49
[OOC First:
Hal, the idea behind using the .221 was to achieve the best velocity possible, even though the round is inherently weaker than a .223. It was designed to be as light as possible. But, going at 1,070 meters per second would guarantee penetration, regardless of the fact that it's an aluminum round, and the barbette guarantees an out of action or kill. The barbette is actually against the Geneva Convention, but the Ejermacht can care less about that. If you actually want to use another round that would be logistically easier to use, if you use the 5.56, whether NATO or Soviet, it will fit. On the other hand, the 7.62 that was featured on the Hali-21 made the Hali-21 a battle rifle, with much more recoil. The Hali-42 has cheaper logistics [a smaller round] and is a better design altogether. Nonetheless, if you wish to keep the larger round, the Hali-42 can be manufactured with a barrel to fit the larger round. So, all is not lost.

For others, the Empire is neutral. Kriegzimmer has armed convoys, but nothing spectacular.]

[OOC: Before I saw your post, I did a Google search for "5.56mm in caliber measurement," and I just realized, with some chagrin, that the .224 round is the 5.56mm. I could have saved you the trouble and just done the research myself. :p Apologies on that.]

Encrypted Communique

To: Kriegzimmer Board

The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia is highly impressed with the new Hali-42 assault rifle, and is pleased to announce our desire to acquire the production rights to this fine weapon, as well as five thousand 400mm Coastal Rail Guns, for installation on the shores of our mainland.

However, we do have a bit of unpleasing business to settle. The Imperium is currently suffering an upsurge in domestic naval piracy, and we believe they may be supported by as-yet-unknown foreign powers with submarine raiding wolfpacks. While we are dealing with the problem, we wish to inquire as to the armament status of your convoys, so as to determine whether or not your convoy delivering our purchase will require escort or not. We appreciate your cooperation, and we regret the inconvenience.

End Encrypted Communique

[OOC: Just FYI, the whole bit about piracy and that such is all bullshit. It's just our way of discreetly determining the armament of standard Kriegzimmer convoys so we know what we can expect if we decide to go ahead with our little plan.]
The Macabees
06-01-2006, 05:12
{1024 Bit Encryption}

To: The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Welcome back! We're glad that you found our design, the Hali-42, impressive enough for your standards, and without a doubt your order has been confirmed. The production rights for the Hali-42 are 3.2 million USD, and the five thousand 400mm rail gun installations will be manufactured within eleven months, sent, and installation, with local workers, should take about another six months of construction goes fast enough. But back to the rifle, we guarantee you that you will be pleased with its service.

As for piracy, do not worry. Pirates aren't normally armed enough to take on a full supply convoy. Each of our ship has two turrets, one at the front and one at the rear, with three five inch guns. We also arm our crews with a myriad of MANPAD surface to air weapons, and smaller anti-shipping launchers. A convoy is normally very well armed, and only when extremely important does the Empire ever release some of its ships. So, your equipment will arrive just fine; we guarantee you of that.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Southeastasia
06-01-2006, 08:34
bump
Corzia
07-01-2006, 00:45
Corzia is very interested in the new Hali-42 assault and would like to order 10 million as well as production rights for the weapon.
Our total should be USD 16 003 200 000.
The Macabees
07-01-2006, 02:08
To: Corzia
Much thanks for the kind words offered to the Hali-42. Your order, of course, has been confirmed and rated at the stated price of 16.0032 million USD. The ten million rifles will be manufactured for Corzia at the rate of eight hundred thousand per month, meaning the entire order will be completed in close to two years - a bit less. The production rights will be sent to a stated building of your military to keep full protection of the prints. We thank you for yet another order and we guarantee the success of the rifle.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: I might introduce a .223 Orchomenos round just to satisfy some people. All previous buyers can assume it's theirs.]
-Magdha-
07-01-2006, 02:52
To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: Minister of War Lester Lindsey

"It's been awhile since we purchased from here. Alas, once again we seek to purchase your top-notch weaponry. We wish to purchase the following:

Azores class Fast Attack Craft x100 = $40,000,000,000.00
BDU-64 Samson Battle Suit x45,000 = $2,250,000,000.00
Ko-1G Multi-purpose Remote Controlled Vehicle x100,000 = $40,000,000,000.00
NPM-A SPW-05 Armored Assault Gun x1,500 = $24,000,000,000.00
400mm Coastal Rail Gun x1,000 = $1,200,000,000.00
MTAAM-3 Silencer Air to Air Missile x10,000 = $11,000,000,000.00
MLAM-2 Air to Surface Missile x10,000 = $13,000,000,000.00
AAM.176 BVRAAM Air to Air Missile x10,000 = $5,760,000,000.00
Lu-27 Condor Interceptor x1,000 = $320,000,000,000.00
GF11 Archer Tactical Reconnaissance Unmanned Aerial Vehicle x10,000 = $150,000,000,000.00
ATG-44 SHaped Anti-TAnk Mine x10,000,000 = $3,000,000,000.00
GRAND TOTAL: $610,210,000,000.00

Money will be wired immediately upon confirmation of this order. Thank you."
Spizania
07-01-2006, 15:58
MWS: The Senate and People of Rome wishes to order the following for its mighty armies, payment to be over 6 years:-

43,566,000 Hol-24 Sidearms $17,426.4 million
35,716,000 Hali-42 Assault Rifles $107,148 million
50,000 Tagus Anti-Tank Missile Launchers $1,250 million
66,000 Cordubo Assault Guns $4,900 million
3,750 Praetorian II Mobile Missile Batteries $6,375 million
3,750 Archimedes Heavy Lift Transports $712,500 million
5,000 Lu-45 Air Superiority Fighters $600,000 million
2,000 Lu-12 Tactical Strike Fighters $180,000 million
800 GLI-34 Stealth Bombers $2,000,000 Million
1000 GF11 Archers UAVs $15,000 million
Total Price - $3,644,599.4 million

The first payment will be wired on confirmation
McKagan
07-01-2006, 22:33
[New Order]

CODEX has just recently began making orders to Avali-Burton for the production of the Hali-21 rifle we purchased production rights for. That is a great gun for clandestine missions or for arming the opressed freedom fighter. And hence, we want to stay on top in this field. Because of this, we'd like to order the production rights to the new Hali-42 rifle. Please transfer the data by whichever means you see fit to the Imperial McKagan Army Center in Kurora, McKagan.
Southeastasia
08-01-2006, 04:24
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Southeastasia
08-01-2006, 11:23
TO: Kriegzimmer Board
FROM: General Jared Ka-Wing Lau, Chief of the Army
RE: Praetorian II Order

Dear Kriegzimmer Board Members,

The commanders of the Union Army (myself included!), and the Ministry of Defense has been interested in the Praetorian II Mobile Surface-to-Air-Missile Launcher for some time. After dealing with the bureaucratic red tape and approval by the Upper House of Parliament, we have decided to purchase two-hundred-units of Praetorian IIs for testing purposes. The cost of thirty-four million shall arrive on the confirmation of the order.

Sincerely,
Chief of the Army, the United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia
General Jared Ka-Wing Lau
Communist Revolution
08-01-2006, 13:34
To: Kriegzimmer Board
From: The Conspiracy of Defence
Subject: Tanks

The Conspiracy is quite interested in some of your main battle tanks, especially the "Ferne". Before we spend $480 billion on them (32,000 tanks), we would like to know how they fair in battle against other main battle tanks.

Another tank that caught our eye is the Wolverine. If you can provide some combat reports and statistics we may end up buying 32,000 of them as well ($112 billion).

Future inquiries will be regarding air superiority/strike fighters.

For now, we will order:
One million of the Hali-42 assault rifles ($3.2 billion).
One hundred thousand Praetorian MSAMLs ($178 billion).
Two thousand, five hundred Azores Class FACs ($1 billion).

Total: $182.2 billion

Of course, you will have to provide training to our personnel. They are currently using a small number of extremely outdated equipment. Some of it doesn't even work anymore.

Our military budget was roughly ten billion dollars. Since the new budget came into effect, it has increased to over three trillion. We are using the new money to equip our forces with the most advanced equipment possible. We plan on doing a complete refit of each branch of the military every couple years to keep things new and up to date.

[signed
John Axeworthy
Chief Conspirator
Conspiracy of Defence