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The Macabees
19-09-2005, 01:56
Splendid. We have already recieved your generous discount. The units will make Corzia an even bigger presence in the region, able to stand up to countries twice our size.
How goes the project, is it possible?
-The Allied States of Corzia


[OOC: I'll answer this one out of character. I think the principle problem with a gun that can reach any part of the world is the fact that there are over ten thousand nations in our world, some of them over five billion in population, and most over at least a billion. It is to say, our planet is easily as large as the sun, perhaps bigger, and consquently, in order to hit any position in the world you're going to need a gun with a range of hundreds of thousands of kilometers. Furthermore, it doesn't account for the fact that the round needs to go around the horizon and possibly need to reach the other pole, which is to say the very least, verticly south of the gun's current position - which is impossible, even if you're shooting into the atmosphere...well actually, I can't say it's impossible, because I don't understand enough about physics in space, but yea.

I'll need to do a bit more research to give you a better picture on the capabilities of the gun.]
Corzia
19-09-2005, 03:09
OOC: i guess i should've been clearer. i was talking about the size of the real earth, we rp size and such in my region. sorry if i confused you.
[Edit]
i realized that the amount of samsons i ordered was not even half of my infantry! :headbang:
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IC:
We have decided to equip all of our frontline infantry with the BDU-64 Samson, so we are ordering another 750 000 units

Our total should be: 31 875 000 000 USD
McKagan
20-09-2005, 02:09
Hello,

The Imperial McKagan Army has finally developed the plan for its new Cobalt Brigade Combat Brigade.

The brigade is designed to be able to be strategically airlifted into any zone on Earth within 72 hours. We did the math, and to move a full brigade at once it takes 75 planes. (transports.)

We are setting up 50 Brigades at this time. Because of this, it will take 3750 combined transport planes to move all our resources (we don't want to have them be bogged down at airports if we need to deploy a mass group of them.)

As such, the Be-23 Archimede's Lever Heavy Transport Aircraft was chosen among other planes.

We would like to purchase the said 3750 of them at 712.5 billion USD.
The Macabees
20-09-2005, 02:15
To: Corzia

The 750,000 BDU-64s are approved for exportation and consequently, they will arrive within fifteen months, or a year and three months, at a rate of 50,000 per month. These huge orders will be delivered to your nearest port by huge merchant convoys. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

To: McKagan

The order has been approved, and saying that, the aircraft will be delivered within six months, although not in equal batches. We should also make note that those aircraft are refuelable by any refueling aircraft in the air to date - if your aircraft are different then the fueling nozzle is interchangeable for your needs.

In other words, you made the correct choice in your pick of transport aircraft, and we appreciate you for that. Thank you for yet another order from Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


[OOC: Corzia, the first stats to that supergun will come on Wenesday, as will the new stats on the EXP-1 for Angelonisia.]
Safehaven2
20-09-2005, 02:19
We would like to buy rights to the Shockhound ASM missiles.(W@W usage only)
Corzia
20-09-2005, 02:24
Excelent. We look forward to seeing the plans. Thank you for confirming this order, we are now set (ooc: i hope) for any ground threat that may come our way.
-The Allied States of Corzia
The Macabees
20-09-2005, 02:27
We would like to buy rights to the Shockhound ASM missiles.(W@W usage only)

[OOC: I was about to say, thinking you wanted them for NS...then I remembered, Kriegzimmer's policy revolved around open trade, so they would have probably been sold anyways... :P ]

[W@W]

To: Egypt

As you are in the thick of fighting against the Middle East we will offer you the same deal as Saudi Arabia. All Kriegzimmer products will have their production plans given temporarilly to Egyptian industry. All units built will be charged after the war in a lend-lease fashion without interest, allowing Egypt to build as many as necessary of anything within Kriegzimmer.

If not then we can just offer you the Shockhound for nine hundred million USD.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Safehaven2
20-09-2005, 02:41
Re: To Kriegzimmer Board

That deal is more than acceptable and is much apreciated. While things are indeed heating up in the Red Sea we still hope to deal a heavy blow to both the Drakans and the Columbians, especially now that we have these new technologies and weapons in our arsenal.
Spizania
20-09-2005, 22:18
I have yet another design contract for you
I need a Rarden cannon type weapon capable of penetrating 4000mm RHA at 4000m with a rate of fire of atleast 90rpm, is this possible, if so coudl i be mounted on a new IFV and on a large APC that can still carry 25 men.

This is to combat Persian Shah class tanks and other weapons utiliseed b the enemies that surround me
McKagan
21-09-2005, 03:40
We finally finished our Rose Class Airport Assault Aircraft, and need several armored units to go along with the system, but cannot transport the large tanks we bought before.

We would like to purchase 375 Wolverine Light Tank's for 1.3125 billion USD.
The Macabees
22-09-2005, 00:48
We finally finished our Rose Class Airport Assault Aircraft, and need several armored units to go along with the system, but cannot transport the large tanks we bought before.

We would like to purchase 375 Wolverine Light Tank's for 1.3125 billion USD.


[OOC: For all those who are awaiting custom cities you'll have to wait until Friday when I get off at 8 AM.]

To: McKagan

The three hundred and seventy-five Wolverines have been confirmed, and consequently, you'll find them at your nearest port city within the month. Thank you for yet another order. Kriegzimmer appreciates your continued service with us.

[signed]Kriegzimmer

-On another note, I don't keep tabs on who I give discounts, but on your next orders consider yourself part of the 15% discount list.
McKagan
23-09-2005, 03:37
350 Cadiz class SSBN's

267.75 billion USD
The Macabees
23-09-2005, 04:01
350 Cadiz class SSBN's

267.75 billion USD


To: McKagan

Although the Empire has recently come into dissonance with your policies Kriegzimmer has a policy of free trade [especially if you read what I just wrote on the Nation States forum, where the owner is planning an economical holocaust on the world] with all, and the state respects this and protects Kriegzimmer's clients. It is to say, your order is still confirmed without hesitation. The SSBNs will arrive within four years.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
23-09-2005, 16:28
(OOC: I don't know if the thread is still even up, but look at what I said about it on the Torontia thread. He knew I used the tactics, he caused it. People will have to have their IC governments learn that people will die in wars.)
The Macabees
23-09-2005, 17:26
(OOC: I don't know if the thread is still even up, but look at what I said about it on the Torontia thread. He knew I used the tactics, he caused it. People will have to have their IC governments learn that people will die in wars.)

[OOC: Doesn't matter anymore, since the thread was ignored by Torontia.]
Spizania
23-09-2005, 17:47
OOC: I need that cool weapon i ordered plus a new stealth gorund attack aircraft, please can i know how long it will take?
The Macabees
23-09-2005, 17:52
I have yet another design contract for you
I need a Rarden cannon type weapon capable of penetrating 4000mm RHA at 4000m with a rate of fire of atleast 90rpm, is this possible, if so coudl i be mounted on a new IFV and on a large APC that can still carry 25 men.

This is to combat Persian Shah class tanks and other weapons utiliseed b the enemies that surround me


[OOC: Ninety rounds per minute wouldn't be possible. A round capable of penetrating 4,000mm of RHA would be something like the equivalent of a 120mm ETC gun with a depleted uranium KE round, and that maximum I would be able to give you on that would be about six a minute. But what you're asking for is a round every forty-five milliseconds or so, which is largely impossible for a round and gun of the size you're requiring. But, if you want something like that, just say you're using a self propelled 120mm ETC gun, mount it on an old tank chassis that weights around sixty-five tons at least, and you're set.

And, the stealth ground attack aircraft will come soon. The F-117 nighthawk, however, is more of a light bomber than anything else. So, most likely, whatever I design for you would have a pocket knife type wings [that they move], with the same stealth systems as the GLI-34.]
Spizania
23-09-2005, 17:58
Oh right sorry, can you design an upgunned rarden cannon for me to use in my own designs?

An that plane idea sounds quite good, wiht the sandstorm they see there doom coming, tehy wont see it now :D
McKagan
23-09-2005, 18:11
[OOC: Doesn't matter anymore, since the thread was ignored by Torontia.]

OOC: I know, no one can be mad at me ICly over something that never happened.
Corzia
23-09-2005, 23:24
ooc: how is the gun coming along? do you need a pic?
Pheanix
24-09-2005, 01:25
Once again we returned to your storefront, our military leaders are lured by your advance designs and vision. This time our Air Force Commanders have requested we start overhauling our air fleets and they suggested some of your items, as top of the line technology wise. For this purpose the House of Lords have recently passed a bill granting Air Command the necessary funds to acquire their desired military hardware. The money shall be wired electronically to an account of your desire.

Lu-05 Air Superiority Aircraft x1,000 110 Billion USD
Lu-12 Canary Tactical Strike Fighter x1,000 90 Billion USD
BDU-64 Samson Battle suit x500,000 25 Billion USD
SRSB Naram-Sin x2 7 Billion USD (both with ideal missile load)

Grand Total of: 232 Billion USD
McKagan
24-09-2005, 03:54
In order to support clandestine operations units that are becomming ever more popular inside our nations military, we would like to purchase 30 of your Be-23 Planes.

4.845 billion USD
The Macabees
24-09-2005, 22:53
ooc: how is the gun coming along? do you need a pic?

[OOC: Somewhat well. I'm going through job applications so I don't have much time.]



Once again we returned to your storefront, our military leaders are lured by your advance designs and vision. This time our Air Force Commanders have requested we start overhauling our air fleets and they suggested some of your items, as top of the line technology wise. For this purpose the House of Lords have recently passed a bill granting Air Command the necessary funds to acquire their desired military hardware. The money shall be wired electronically to an account of your desire.

Lu-05 Air Superiority Aircraft x1,000 110 Billion USD
Lu-12 Canary Tactical Strike Fighter x1,000 90 Billion USD
BDU-64 Samson Battle suit x500,000 25 Billion USD
SRSB Naram-Sin x2 7 Billion USD (both with ideal missile load)

Grand Total of: 232 Billion USD


To: Pheanix
And again you have made the best choice in ordnance provider. As a result, your order has been confirmed and you will receive the Lu-05s and Lu-12s within two months, while the battlesuits will arrive in ten batches every month. The Naram-Sins will arrive within the month. Thank you for yet another order, Kriegzimmer appreciates continued costumer loyalty.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


In order to support clandestine operations units that are becomming ever more popular inside our nations military, we would like to purchase 30 of your Be-23 Planes.

4.845 billion USD


To: McKagan
We're glad that you have returned, as a consequence, the Be-23 Archimedes' will arrive within three weeks. We are sure that the Archimedes will complete your job perfectly.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
25-09-2005, 13:52
What sort of equivelent TNT yield would i get if i packed the archimedes lever full of ONC and used it as a flying bomb?
McKagan
25-09-2005, 18:38
[NEW PURCHASE]
Because we have a growing SSBN fleet, we would like to build a fleet of SSN's to keep our anti-ship forces high as well. While we do not, at this exact time, have the ability to house/man all of the vessels we are about to purchase, we calculate that by the time you finish shipping we will.

Our order is 500 Cartagena class SSN's, for 467.5 billion USD.

(OOC: Perhaps you can help me. I THINK I ordered some of your SSN's before, but I didn't put it on my Notepad document and now I can't find the post. It might just be in my head, but I'm not sure.)
The Macabees
26-09-2005, 04:23
What sort of equivelent TNT yield would i get if i packed the archimedes lever full of ONC and used it as a flying bomb?

[A very large explosive. But bombs are cheaper.]


[NEW PURCHASE]
Because we have a growing SSBN fleet, we would like to build a fleet of SSN's to keep our anti-ship forces high as well. While we do not, at this exact time, have the ability to house/man all of the vessels we are about to purchase, we calculate that by the time you finish shipping we will.

Our order is 500 Cartagena class SSN's, for 467.5 billion USD.

(OOC: Perhaps you can help me. I THINK I ordered some of your SSN's before, but I didn't put it on my Notepad document and now I can't find the post. It might just be in my head, but I'm not sure.)


[OOC: I thought you did too, but I got to page 26 didn't see anything, so I got lazy.]

To: McKagan

The order has been confirmed. The Cartagenas will be delivered in batches of fifty per three months. Gracias.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
SkyCapt
27-09-2005, 01:05
To: Kreigzimmer Storefront
From: Ravencorps Industries*

We at Ravencorps wish to purchase 2,000 of your BDU-64 Samson Battlesuits, for testing purposes. We also wish to acquire permission to utilize parts of the Battlesuits design and layout for our upcoming armor design, to be used by the RIA. The funds have been wired, we await your response.



*: Ravencorps Industries is a SkyCapt Arms and vehicles manufacturer
The Macabees
27-09-2005, 02:15
To: Kreigzimmer Storefront
From: Ravencorps Industries*

We at Ravencorps wish to purchase 2,000 of your BDU-64 Samson Battlesuits, for testing purposes. We also wish to acquire permission to utilize parts of the Battlesuits design and layout for our upcoming armor design, to be used by the RIA. The funds have been wired, we await your response.



*: Ravencorps Industries is a SkyCapt Arms and vehicles manufacturer

To: Ravencorps Industries
Your order has been confirmed. Since this is an industry to industry decision the battlesuits will make it faster to you than they would normally be shipped to nations in general. You'll see all two thousand within the month. And yes, you have our permission for a future armored design.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Macabees
27-09-2005, 15:48
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[Credit is due to Mekugi for the entire picture.]


Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Aircraft

Abstract:
Through the wars of Emperor Jonach I it was conceived that the Lu-05, although potent, was far too simplistic for air superiority duties. This conclusion was reaffirmed during the War of Golden Succession, in which the Lu-05 was pitted against Havenite aircraft. The simplicity, and inadequacies, of the Lu-05 were underscored by several clients of Kriegzimmer, who many also saw action in the War of Golden Succession.

These inadequacies included lack of relative stealth features, although the Lu-05 did employ some of the very best RADAR absorbing material of the times, lack of maneuverability, and the airframe was far too small to support the features it carried. Furthermore, the Lu-05 was equipped with paraphernalia that didn’t perform to expectations, such as the Pallas Athena, purchased from New Empire.

Consequently, Emperor Fedor I ordered the development of a new air superiority aircraft. The original petitioners were Luftkrieg, Golden Luftwaffe Industries, and Dienstad Aerial Industries. Of all applicants Luftkrieg was chosen and funded, after their two last successful designs, the Lu-05 and the Lu-12. The project was dubbed the ZX-63, and the final product was the Lu-45 Hawk.

The Lu-45 features improved stealth systems despite the dropping of the Pallas Athena active RADAR cancellation system, as well as much better maneuverability, and enhanced aerodynamics. The latter includes more modern, much better designed, wing technology and undercarriage technology, reducing total mass, and thus total drag. Regardless, the technologies of the Lu-45 are worth a chance to look at.

The primary purchaser of the Lu-45, the Empire of the Golden Throne, has ordered it for the replacement of all Lu-05 aircraft, which will amount to a total of some twelve thousand Lu-45 aircraft within the time span of four to five years. The aircraft has also been displayed to the IADF, and may undergo certain revisions there for use within the Rapid Reaction Force, although Space Union is also a contender in the designing of the joint IADF air superiority fighter project.

The Lu-45 is a fully modern [post-modern] design, incorporating some of the best technologies available and incorporates technologies used in other aircraft as well. The Lu-45s purpose was to make a formidable air superiority fighter for the Empire, not to export it – although it will be exported – but, it’s primary purpose was for the Empire. It seems that it has done that, and done that incredibly well.

The Lu-45 flew it’s first test flight in front of an unofficial audience two years after the project began, flying for Emperor Fedor I. The Emperor liked it so much that he ordered the Lu-05s to be slowly scrapped and that some seven thousand Lu-45s be produced for both the Luftwaffe and the Kriegsmarine. It is, indeed, a promising aircraft.

Airframe and Aerodynamics:
The airframe is crafted of steel titanium ribs, covered by an extremely light weight plastic and ceramic composite. The goal wasn’t to provide an armored aircraft, since the most likely case would be that regardless of the airframe’s strength the chances that it would survive a blast within three meters of the aircraft were low. Consequently, Luftkrieg decided to go cheaper but reliable, exchanging harder composites for a lighter ceramic/plastic composite. The specific composition of the ceramic/plastic composite is a Polyamide, polyvinyl chloride [PVC], and polycarbonate coating, along with a plastic bakelite coating, and a zirconium-hafnium alloy. The Hawk is laminated inside and outside with carbon reinforced fiberglass-plastic composed of glass fiber and carbon laminates bound with vinyl ester and polyester resin. The density of the carbon renforced fiberglass composite is about 1,600 kgm^3, but the strength is rated above steel, and while in stiffness it falls a bit behind steel, in specific stiffnets it rises above steel almost six times over. A scrimp manufacturing process is used in construction, involving vacuum assisted resin injection. Carbon fiber and carbon loaded materials have been selected for the beams, mast and supporting structures, which need high tensile strength, for example the support structures for the gun and the electro-optical and radar weapon director. This latter lamination is known to increase stealth, and is extremely light weight, and used by many Swedish shipping.

The shape of the airframe also offers a lower radar-cross section [RCS], and the composite material is covered with radiation absorbent material, which is formed of a composition between honeycomb RAM, black absorbent RAM, and foam absorbers. This groundbreaking design of RAM has allowed the aircraft to absorb between 3MHz to 6 GHz. This means that OTHR designed RADAR systems can no longer pick up the Hawk, allowing it a more advance stealth feature. This RAM technology can also be seen used on the GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber, and has proved successful in combat operations undertaken by several client states.

All angles on the aircraft follow the idea of the polarization angle, also known as Brewster’s Angle, which says that light that is polarized when regarding the interface, will not reflect on a particular incident angle. The angles attempt to all follow the standard guideline of being angled at fifty-six degrees, also much like the GLI-34.

Underneath the layering of RAM, and on top of the airframe, the Hawk features a slick coating of Thymonel 8, a nickel-based aluminum superalloy [NiAl], which has a low tendency for hydrogen environmental embrittlement [HEE], which is a logistical nightmare for most aircraft, and it features an extremely high resistance to heat. It is to say, the Hawk allows for greater velocities, especially when it comes to maneuvers.

The Hawk incorporates two canards just under the canopy, near the fuselage and half-hidden intakes, which are fully reversible, allowing the Hawk to fly in one direction while it’s pointing at another. The technology was first rumored to be available on the Rafale, and now the Hawk is one of the few aircraft that incorporate reversible canard fins.

The wings use a leading edge expansion to create high lift, increasing the flyable alpha by over ninety degrees. Like the Su-33, the Hawk has the ability to pull to an angle of attack of ninety to one hundred and ten degrees, and then pull back to zero. The Hawk also has twin vertical tails to increase stabilization, although they’re relatively smaller than those used on the JSF-35. The Lu-45s wings follow a full delta but instead the wing stalls are at the root, as is planned with the switchblade design, offering greater manueverability at higher velocities. The delta was chosen over the foward sweep wing simply because of drag and velocity issues with the newer technology, and the fact that FSW technology didn't really offer the Lu-45 any real advantage over a more conventional design with a difference in where the wing stalls were located. The Hawk's airfoils are all composed of a Nickel based Aluminum superalloy [NiAl], which enjoys rather great tensile ductility, high fracture toughness and high temperature strength, while keeping up an awsome creep and fatigue behavioural pattern in terms of resistivity. The NiAl superalloy is woven around a matrix, using a chromium strand to bond in each case, showing a substantial gain in toughness.

It is important to point out that the Lu-45 does have a single armored area, and that is the fuselage, which is ‘half-armored’, or more accurately slightly armored, to protect from stray shots, or weaker penetrations. The armor is made up of a stronger ceramic composite, and offers relatively low rolled homogenous armored [RHA] statistics.

Powerplant
The principle powerplant on the Lu-45 Hawk is a dual low-bypass turbofan engine system, putting out forty thousand pound force each. The outer shaft (HP), the high pressure compressor and the high pressure turbine are all made of a sturdier material than the rest of the airframe, including a separate coating of a separate superalloy. This coating is made of a Ni based superalloy with high Cr content and using the d-electron concept. The d-electron concept was developed on the basis of the molecular orbital calculations of the electronic structures of Ni alloys. The two electronic parameters that are important for this concept are the bond order between an alloying element and nickel atoms, Bo, and the other is the d-orbital energy level of alloying elements. This specific composition has high hot-corrosion resistance, tested by the immersion test, where it was tested through weight loss. There is a second coating of Rene N6 single crystal based superalloy called CMSX-11B and CMSX-116, containing Chromium levels of 12.5% to 14.5% respectively. The Rene N6 also increases hydrogen environment embrittlement (HEE), increasing resistance.

The fans themselves are somewhat better made than most out there since they're forged from a mono-crystalline blade, which is something along the lines of Rene N6 only with a heavier mass. Moreover, the turbofan includes a two layer fan in order to increase thrust and force, while using a smaller engine, decrease infra-red signatures. All first stage turbine blades and nozzels are designed using ceramic materials, a biproduct of the Advanced Gas Turbine [AGT] project.

To increase power the Hawk’s turbofans, dubbed LuTJ-2005s, retain a high specific thrust in order to increase to the limit the thrust for a given frontal area. Furthermore, the LuTJ-2005s use multi-stage fans for a higher fan pressure ratio. It also includes afterburner injection to increase specific thrust at certain times, although the Lu-45s engines do not allow it for a longer period of time, making afterburners only useful in certain combat operations and take-off operations.

The variable area air intakes for the LuTJ, as said before, are located halfway under the fuselage, and carry a small silencer, which although it doesn’t silence it all the way, does aid quite a bit in the almost implausible endeavor of silencing the Lu-45 Hawk.

The LuTJ-2005 engines also are designed with multiple infra-red heat depressant mechanisms which act as mechanical coolants, designed to lower, if not extinguish, infra-red signatures coming from the engines. Apart from that the engines also carry what is perhaps the only major Luftkrieg self-designed property. It incorporates a liquid nitrogen coolant based in a miniscule ring which separates the inner walls of the turbojets, lined by the superalloys, and the outer wall of the turbojets, allowing miniature injectors to leave a gloss of liquid nitrogen. The heat is measured by built in thermometers, and the coolant is injected based on those readings.

The Hawk’s maximum velocity remains at Mach 3+, while it’s optimal cruising velocity has been rendered at Mach 2.4, and it’s optimal mission velocity for enhanced stealth is to remain subsonic.

For quicker turns and more efficient maneuvers the Lu-45 Hawk uses Counterflow Thrust Vectoring [CFTV], which decreases weight and increases reaction speed. Of the two CFTV systems to date, the Lu-45 uses that designed in the Portuguese Air Force Academy in Sintra, which uses small jet engines. Nonetheless, regardless on the improvements on thrust vectoring, especially the CFTV fluid vectoring, it is extremely important to know that thrust vectoring works best in subsonic velocities, as opposed to super sonic velocities.

The engines are monitored for mechanical fluidity, heat and pressure by an Engines Indicating and Crew Alerting System (EICAS). EICAS is located in the cockpit and is a section of the Hawk’s avionics.

Avionics:
All electronic systems used by Hawk are line replaceable units and shop replaceable units, making the Hawk’s electronic suit much more logistics friendly. Furthermore, the coolant system used by the engines is also used by separate technology injectors on the electronic and avionics systems, allowing for a much better use of the aircraft’s avionics by the crews. In other words, it decreases the chances of a malfunction.

The avionics suit on the Lu-45 was perhaps the most excruciating part of the design, and it includes several enhanced projects which the Lu-05 disregarded. This includes an Integrated Communications Navigation Identification Avionics [ICNIA] suit, as well as Integrated Electronic Warfare System [INEWS] and high speed data busses. The system is brained by a single supercomputer dubbed Hans, known as a Common Integrated Processor [CIP], and there are two of these located within each Hawk. The CIP is rated at two thousand million instructions per second [Mips], with signal processing rated at fifty billion operations per second . This is aided by the very high-speed integrated circuit (VHSIC) technology, and separate modules.

The Lu-45 Hawk has a Communication/Navigation/Identification [CNI] system, which each CNI having it’s own synthetic aperture installed on the aircraft. The CNI works directly and indirectly with the separate but similar identification friend or foe [IFF] system. Regardless, both work for the cooperation between flights of aircraft. This is further propelled by the Intra-Flight Data Link [IFDL] which allows flights to share target data without using the radio. Finally, to reinforce both the CNI and IFF there us a Joint Tactical Information Distribution System [JTIDS] link.

The Electronic Warfare [EW] system and the Stores Management System [SMS] also work together, much like the CNI and IFF applications work together. The SMS works for launch sequences and to choose weapons, and such, while the former system [EW] works to gather target data and to aid in the detection of other aircraft. The Electronic Warfare system also expends chaff, flares and other countermeasures as seen appropriate; this can also be done manually if the pilot wishes, although he/she does not have to set the setting, as the CIP assumed this. The SMS is aided by two other systems, the Vehicle Management System [VMS] and the Integrated Vehicle System Controller [IVSC], which are avionics racks. The pilot doesn’t need to worry about self-defense, as that’s controlled automatically by an electronic warfare subsystem on the aircraft.

All the systems are directly linked to the pilot through a series of screens crafted from a liquid crystal matrix [AMLCD], which translated to the electronic flight instrumentation system [EFIS]. The EICAS system, described under the engines section, is also centered in the cockpit, next to the Altitude and Heading Reference System [AHRS] and Air Data Computer. For greater pilot versatility and comfort the cockpit includes a Primary Multi-Function display, shown through a polychromatic AMLCD, as well as a single heads-up display screen [HUD] and four up-front display screens [UFP]. These systems offer a ‘gods eye view’ of the battlefield, and the HUD allows a thirty degree view horizontally, and a twenty-five degree view vertically.

The pilot’s wellbeing is monitored by the Environment Awareness Module [EAM], which includes on-board oxygen and pressure levels, as well as temperature levels and the state of the pilot’s nuclear, biological and chemical [NBC] protection suits.

The pilot’s navigational aids include a satellite based reality reproduction [SBRR] system and a hybrid navigational system, which works with gyro inertial guidance and a global positioning system [GPS]. For an all purpose navigational system the Hawk has the tactical air navigational system [TACAN], which is supplemented by a terrain profiling and matching system [TERPROM], much like that used by the Tomahawk missile, which also works hand in hand with the global positioning system and other reconnaissance satellite systems.

For threat management the pilot can depend on an electronic counter-measure system [ECMS], and an Advance Integrated Defensive Electronic Countermeasure System (AIDECM), which uses both noise jamming, deception jamming, and blip enhancement.

[b]Cockpit Ejection System:
The Lu-45 Hawk, as opposed to the Lu-05, includes a cockpit ejection system due to popularity of it in Kriegzimmer's custom designs department. The CES works on a single lever, located on the left side of the pilot's seat, away from all other buttons and levers. The lever stimulates the computer to send a message to the mechanics of the cockpit's plexiglass, forcing it to segregate itself from the rest of the aircraft. Immediately afterwards the pilot and the seat are thrown from the aircraft using a relatively simple hydraulics system.

The seat includes a small booster designed to send the seat away from the aircraft and carry the pilot to safety. The landing system depends on two parachutes, one being the main chute, and the other being the secondary chute. Both chutes are rectangular in shape and made of reinforced canvas.

The seat also has two miniscule thrust vectoring mechanisms on the bottom for rudimentary manuevering done by the pilot to control the landing and to evade fire, and such. However, it's not powerful enough to take the pilot far, and is merely to provide the pilot with a safer landing.

For later detection, the seat includes a global positioning system. This would alert the commanding aircraft carrier or airbase to know where the pilot landed, and where to send a rescue team to. The seat also has an extra sidearm underneath in case the pilot looses his first one.

Sensor Equipment:
The central sensor system [CSS] was designed to take over the confusion of having separate sensor systems, although the Hawk does also include those. Nonetheless, this central sensor system acts like a collective and guides the pilot if the pilot is working in a compressed time space. The system was designed as the Imperial Radio Detection and Ranging Central Nervous System [IRCNS]. IRCNS is a long range, rapid scan, and multi-functional system which is formulated by an antenna that is physically and electrically merged with the airframe, reducing the radar cross section [RCS], and the IRCNS uses a solid-state microwave module, which replaces the wave tube systems of older radars. The electronically scanned array [ESA] has a wider bandwidth, while using less volume and prime power.

The Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) capability of the radar defeats conventional RWR/ESM systems, which means that the Hawk can illuminate an enemy target without that enemy knowing that he was illuminated, working perfectly with the reversible canards. Unlike older designs the IRCNS released low energy pulses over a wide frequency band using a technique called spread spectrum transmission, consequently, because it has lower energy emissions and it doesn’t follow standard emission modules, the Hawk will be harder to detect.

The IRCNS also includes an Inverse Synthetic Aperture radar [ISAR], while allows it to capture an image of a target, and consequently, the pilot can compare that picture with the picture stored on the aircraft’s database. ISAR also helps to create a 3D recreation of the battlefield, which uplinks to the EFIS.

The Hawk includes a bi-static phased array radar on the Albatross’ nose and tail apertures, giving it a three hundred and sixty degree scan, burning through 5th Generation stealth at around three hundred kilometers distance. The bi-static phased array radar needs no physical movement; instead it’s controlled by phase-shifters, which change the degree of the beam within nanoseconds. This system is matched by an infra-red search and track system, (IRST) which uses infra-red technology to track heat signatures for up to one hundred kilometers. The latter system is completely passive.

The Albatross also includes a radar megalith, including an X-band radar, which denotes the Radar’s frequency. This is joined with next generation radar (NEXRAD) which includes a network of small Doppler Radars, and the improved polarimetric RADAR, which adds vertical polarization in order to know what exactly is reflecting the signal back.

This latter radar conglomerate is the secondary sensor version, subordinate to the IRCNS. It is to say, it’s a secondary detection system that can be taken to full advantage by the pilot.

The nose of the aircraft incorporates an active electronically scanned array for passive homing, and a radar warning receiver aerials [RWR]

There’s also a series of LIDAR sensor systems installed throughout the aircraft, including a single down-looking LIDAR system underneath the nose of the Hawk. There are also two wide LIDAR apertures on the front and end of the aircraft, located in hidden pockets to reduce RCS. All three LIDAR systems work similarly, and they all incorporate Luftkrieg’s second generation LIDAR technology. The Hawk’s system is based on a transponder and receiver, beside that of the IFF transponder, which uses a Gaussian transmitter system to transmit LIDAR waves. The Gaussian transmitter is based on two electrical fields sending electrically charged photonic waves to bounce off targets and have active measurements on its velocity and location. The advantage of this LIDAR system is that the active RADAR only needs to gain a location on an object once before the LIDAR can take over, meaning a bomber can turn off its active RADAR to reduce its signature. The Albatross’ LIDAR uses Doppler LIDAR in order to keep track of an object’s velocity, as well as a LIDAR range finder. The missile’s heterodyne-reception optical RADAR uses a standard configuration [transmitter laser > exit optics > atmospheric propagation path > target] and [photodetector > photocurrent processing > image processing / BermCombiner/ local oscillator entrance optics]. The Silencer's transmitter is a Casegrainian telescope, which works much like the photonic mast on an ultra-modern submarine.

Armament Stores:
The Lu-45 Hawk has four optional external hardpoints capable of carrying five hundred kilograms of armaments to seven hundred kilograms of armament each, depending on its location on the wing. These can be either ignored or used as external fuel tanks for extended ranges, although this would substantially increase RCS. Nonetheless, they are there for uncommon missions and such. There are also four bottom mounted missile bays and two internal hardpoints. All the hardpoints are designed to sustain 6G turns, and can sustain minor shrapnel damage without problems

The Hawks preferably use the Kriegzimmer designed AAM 176 BVRAAM, which is an extremely long range air to air missile, predecessor of the first of such to be designed, as it was first classified as a long range air to air missile, but sustains similar to higher ranges as foreign ELRAAMs, thus it was fitting to change its classification. The Silencer must be bought separately from Kriegzimmer, but the Hawk also can be changed upon export to fit either Warsaw Pact air to air missiles or NATO air to air missiles – however, this must be requested before export, or else the client nation has to change it upon their own accord.

Although not typically used by the Empire, the Hawk can also carry ALARM and HARM missiles, and other air to surface variants, including Kriegzimmer’s MLAM-2 missile, and the joint Guffingfordi/Imperial sledgehammer and shockhound avenger missiles. Again, it can also be changed to carry WP or NATO designated weaponry.

The Hawk also carried two single miniature gatling gun, with a revolving chamber, guided by the IRCNS and the three separate LIDARs. It’s designed to act as a small airborne close-in weapon system, located in internal storage bays in the center of the aircraft, pointing towards opposite direction, offering an almost three hundred and sixty degree range, although there are certain blind spots for the guns. Closer to the nose there is also a larger, but relatively hidden, gatling styled 28mm gun, with a two hundred round magazine of mostly penetration rounds.

Conclusions:
The Hawk is destined to be a major contestant in future wars, and has guaranteed continued Imperial superiority over at least their own skies. However, one cannot totally disregard foreign designs, and many of them are superior in their own right. More accurately, the decision of which aircraft to buy should be completed after one had fully studied the aircraft and had decided which aircraft is better for one’s own strategy. Of course, the Lu-45 Hawk is meant for a strategy that closely revolves around that of the Empire. Nonetheless, the Lu-45 Hawk is a great purchase for any developing or developed nation; that cannot be undermined.

The Hawk’s export cost remains at: $120 million USD

Statistics:
Type: Air Superiority Fighter
Length: 19.2m
Width: 5.17m
Wingspan: 14.2m
Height: 5.08m
Propulsion: Two Low-bypass LuTJ-2005 Turbofans
Thrust: 40,000lbf
Empty Weight: 14,561kg
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 27,317kg
Maximum Payload: 3,800kg
Combat Range [on internal fuel]: 3,658 kilometers
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 9,144 meters
Maximum Altitude: 18,288 meters
Optimal Cruising Speed: Subsonic
Cruising Speed: Mach 2.4
Supercruising Speed: Mach 2.8
Maximum Speed: Mach 3.4
Price: $120 Million
Production Rights Cost: $45 Billion w/ Purchase of 100 Aircraft
McKagan
28-09-2005, 00:21
[New Purchase]
We have noticed several incidents where large, modern fleets from large nations are bombarded by aircraft while off the cost of a much smaller nation that has invested heavily in an airforce.

Not wishing to be added to the list of nations who have lost aircraft carriers to a few MiGs with Exocets, we are placing an order for 50 Paramount class Air Defense Vessel's.

29.75 billion USD

(OOC: Expect me to stock up on your naval stuff in the future. I just started looking into your surface stuff and I like it.)
The Macabees
28-09-2005, 00:24
[New Purchase]
We have noticed several incidents where large, modern fleets from large nations are bombarded by aircraft while off the cost of a much smaller nation that has invested heavily in an airforce.

Not wishing to be added to the list of nations who have lost aircraft carriers to a few MiGs with Exocets, we are placing an order for 50 Paramount class Air Defense Vessel's.

29.75 billion USD

(OOC: Expect me to stock up on your naval stuff in the future. I just started looking into your surface stuff and I like it.)


[OOC: I suggest that you don't buy the destroyer. I'm going to replace my destroyer soon. I do also have a cruiser and a frigate, but never added them here. Those are due to be replaced soon as well.]

To: McKagan
The order has been confirmed, and we are sure that the ADV, especially the Paramount, will complete the job you set it to do. Low class, but large, airforces would fall prey to the ADV easily, and high class forces will have trouble getting through its air defenses, you can trust us on that. The vessels will arrive five per every month, meaning it will take ten months to complete the order. Thank you for your continued clientel loyalty.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
28-09-2005, 00:32
[OOC: I suggest that you don't buy the destroyer. I'm going to replace my destroyer soon. I do also have a cruiser and a frigate, but never added them here. Those are due to be replaced soon as well.]


[OOC: I've got over 1000 destroyers, and about 400 frigates, I bought Leafanistani ships en'masse and had a 10,000 ship navy for a while. But after a while I sold those 1600 Frigates off and started buying Praetonian, but I don't want to have just 1 supplier. I'm mainly interested in your aircraft carrier, and will probably look to boost my other numbers once you add everything.]
McKagan
28-09-2005, 00:39
[New Purchase]
Greetings again,

Air superiority is a major asset/need in war. Our forces have long went to gain air superiority before even commiting ground units. This tactic alone makes the need to be able to project air power into far away regions overnight a very important task to keep up with. But in our militarys beginnings, the navy got all the funding, meaning that we didn't have air power to project. After a while we flooded our Air Forces Bases with new aircraft, but then had nothing to project it with. Several years ago we purchased a fleet of Praetonian made fleet carriers. While these vessels have served us more than well, we are looking to reduce that number by six vessels, while giving our carrier forces and overall boost. To accomplish this, we would like to purchase 26 of your Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier's. The final price, after the discount ,comes to 154.7 billion USD.
Rolatia
28-09-2005, 00:47
[New Purchase]
Greetings,
The Educated Technological State of Rolatia feels with the recent economic boom experienced in its country, it is time to invest in defence weaponry to defend its lands and simply to occupy the anarchic wastelands that border it.
It is therefore putting in an order for:
[Mechanized Infantry Division Package] x3
[Armor Division Package] x1
at a total cost of 14.2227B
The money from the defence budget has been wired to your accounts
We may make subsequent purchases, however we believe that one should never leave oneself in debt, for it is the seeds of destruction. We will therefore pay only from current budgets.
Dr J. Edwards
Novikov
28-09-2005, 00:48
[OOC: I've got over 1000 destroyers, and about 400 frigates, I bought Leafanistani ships en'masse and had a 10,000 ship navy for a while. But after a while I sold those 1600 Frigates off and started buying Praetonian, but I don't want to have just 1 supplier. I'm mainly interested in your aircraft carrier, and will probably look to boost my other numbers once you add everything.]

[OOC: I'm sorry. I don't mean to spam, but dear god. Do you realize the upkeep costs of a navy that size? You've got a budget the same size as mine - there's no freaking way you can field that many ships. Just as a warning, I would wager that anyone who actually gets involved in a conflict with you will ignore wankish figures like a 10,000 ship navy.]
The Macabees
28-09-2005, 00:56
[New Purchase]
Greetings again,

Air superiority is a major asset/need in war. Our forces have long went to gain air superiority before even commiting ground units. This tactic alone makes the need to be able to project air power into far away regions overnight a very important task to keep up with. But in our militarys beginnings, the navy got all the funding, meaning that we didn't have air power to project. After a while we flooded our Air Forces Bases with new aircraft, but then had nothing to project it with. Several years ago we purchased a fleet of Praetonian made fleet carriers. While these vessels have served us more than well, we are looking to reduce that number by six vessels, while giving our carrier forces and overall boost. To accomplish this, we would like to purchase 26 of your Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier's. The final price, after the discount ,comes to 154.7 billion USD.


To: McKagan

Of course, naval air superiority is always dire in any modern naval battle, and especially a nation who projects power overseas. We're glad that you chose the Indestructable over Praetonia's own design, although the latter is also extremely qualified. The Indestructables will be built at a quick rate of three per every two annum, meaning the entire order will be completed within nine years. Thank you for yet another purchase, again, you will not be let down by our technology.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



[New Purchase]
Greetings,
The Educated Technological State of Rolatia feels with the recent economic boom experienced in its country, it is time to invest in defence weaponry to defend its lands and simply to occupy the anarchic wastelands that border it.
It is therefore putting in an order for:
[Mechanized Infantry Division Package] x3
[Armor Division Package] x1
at a total cost of 14.2227B
The money from the defence budget has been wired to your accounts
We may make subsequent purchases, however we believe that one should never leave oneself in debt, for it is the seeds of destruction. We will therefore pay only from current budgets.
Dr J. Edwards


To: Dr. J. Edwards, The Educated Technological State of Rolatia
We're glad that you turned to us for your defensive needs, and we guarantee that your nation will not be let down by our technology, as can be testified by other buyers. The three mechanized infantry division packages will arrive within one year, while the armor division package will arrive within six months. Of course, national debt for many is something unthinkable of having. We believe more in Henry Clay's theories, however, we also respect the economical beliefs of others; in the end, your decision might be the wisest. Regardless, thank you for your first order from Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Halberdgardia
28-09-2005, 01:49
Several years ago we purchased a fleet of Praetonian made fleet carriers. While these vessels have served us more than well, we are looking to reduce that number by six vessels, while giving our carrier forces and overall boost.

[OOC: Are you getting rid of Titans? I'll take them off your hands if you want. I can always use more Titans.]
Rolatia
28-09-2005, 02:10
The three mechanized infantry division packages will arrive within one year, while the armor division package will arrive within six months.
OOC: How long is that time period? Is it my time (1 week per year) or another time (1 day per year or similiar)
IC: The Rolatian military is please to have completed the transaction. We look forward to doiing business with you in the future.
Dr J. Edwards
McKagan
28-09-2005, 02:21
[OOC: Are you getting rid of Titans? I'll take them off your hands if you want. I can always use more Titans.]

[OOC: It's suppose to be a cost cutting measure. I'm automatically adding that Praes ship takes more money to maintain, even if it doesn't. Basically so I can buy another carrier. Yeah, I cut six of them. I'll see them to you at 35% discounts? Does that sound good? Is Mac going to hurt me for doing this in his thread? Will Prae kill me for selling his ships?]
Halberdgardia
28-09-2005, 02:44
[OOC: It's suppose to be a cost cutting measure. I'm automatically adding that Praes ship takes more money to maintain, even if it doesn't. Basically so I can buy another carrier. Yeah, I cut six of them. I'll see them to you at 35% discounts? Does that sound good? Is Mac going to hurt me for doing this in his thread? Will Prae kill me for selling his ships?]

[OOC: Based on the legal disclaimer at IPS, Prae only prohibited the passing-on or sale of production rights, not individual vessels. 35% discount is fine, though I was hoping for a freebie. :p]
McKagan
28-09-2005, 02:49
[OOC: Based on the legal disclaimer at IPS, Prae only prohibited the passing-on or sale of production rights, not individual vessels. 35% discount is fine, though I was hoping for a freebie. :p]

[OOC: I would just give them to you (i'm assuming you want all 6?) but I can't make myself believe that people in my nation would like to hear "Navy GIVES multi billion dollar Aircraft Carriers away!" It just doesn't make sense ICly, IMO. Anyway, especially considering how corporate this nation is.]
Halberdgardia
28-09-2005, 02:58
[OOC: I would just give them to you (i'm assuming you want all 6?) but I can't make myself believe that people in my nation would like to hear "Navy GIVES multi billion dollar Aircraft Carriers away!" It just doesn't make sense ICly, IMO. Anyway, especially considering how corporate this nation is.]

[OOC: Sure, I'll take all six, at a 35% discount. I can always use more carriers.]
The Macabees
28-09-2005, 03:04
OOC: How long is that time period? Is it my time (1 week per year) or another time (1 day per year or similiar)
IC: The Rolatian military is please to have completed the transaction. We look forward to doiing business with you in the future.
Dr J. Edwards

[OOC: Normally, for tech you can just consider one year is a day. In reality, it just depends on the role play. But for this purpose, just assume one year is a real life day.]
Nycton
28-09-2005, 03:37
300x Manstein class Destroyer
200x Seydlitz class Cruiser
We ask to not place any batteries on the ship. Standardized Nycton Navy batteries will be placed upon arrival of order.

Total: 330 Billion

Production Rights of the Following:
Principe III Anti-Shipping Missile/Torpedo
Shockhound Avenger I Anti-Shipping Missle
Sledgehammer Anti-Shipping Anti-SuperDreadnought Missile
Name your price...I would like to produce these articles by name, want a steady flow from your nation. A contract is in order.
The Macabees
28-09-2005, 04:03
300x Manstein class Destroyer
200x Seydlitz class Cruiser
We ask to not place any batteries on the ship. Standardized Nycton Navy batteries will be placed upon arrival of order.

Total: 330 Billion

Production Rights of the Following:
Principe III Anti-Shipping Missile/Torpedo
Shockhound Avenger I Anti-Shipping Missle
Sledgehammer Anti-Shipping Anti-SuperDreadnought Missile
Name your price...I would like to produce these articles by name, want a steady flow from your nation. A contract is in order.

To: Nycton

The order for the three hundred Manstein class Destroyers has been confirmed. They will arrive in the amount of fifty per year, meaning, the entire order will be completed within six years, or seventy-two months. As per request, we will not include the batteries to the ship.

The production rights for the Principe III ASM/T, the Shockhound Avenger I ASM and the Sledgehammer AS2M will be offered for nine billion United States Dollars. As for the latter part, we didn't quite get it. A steady flow from Kriegzimmer?

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Nycton
28-09-2005, 04:15
To: Nycton

The order for the three hundred Manstein class Destroyers has been confirmed. They will arrive in the amount of fifty per year, meaning, the entire order will be completed within six years, or seventy-two months. As per request, we will not include the batteries to the ship.

The production rights for the Principe III ASM/T, the Shockhound Avenger I ASM and the Sledgehammer AS2M will be offered for nine billion United States Dollars. As for the latter part, we didn't quite get it. A steady flow from Kriegzimmer?

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

To: The Macabees
(How many days will that be RL? Six day's i'm assuming?)

I worded my question wrong. I meant that I wanted a steady flow of the named missiles through contract if I were not able to obtain Production Rights. But this will not be a problem.

339 Billion Wired.
Rolatia
28-09-2005, 07:57
[OOC: Normally, for tech you can just consider one year is a day. In reality, it just depends on the role play. But for this purpose, just assume one year is a real life day.]

OOC: Thanks. I thought this may be the case but I was just checking.
Spizania
28-09-2005, 16:54
I have an friend whos thinking of joining W@W as the UAE, would it be possible for him to get hte production rights for the Lu-45 and also become a secret member of the CoG? (He will buy tons o ftanks off Persia)
The Macabees
28-09-2005, 17:02
I have an friend whos thinking of joining W@W as the UAE, would it be possible for him to get hte production rights for the Lu-45 and also become a secret member of the CoG? (He will buy tons o ftanks off Persia)

[OOC: Of course.]
Spizania
28-09-2005, 17:46
The UAE nees BRedtswords, Sov6s, Hali 21s, Praetorian V launchers aswell as Cordubblos can he have temproray rights to these aswell.
The Macabees
28-09-2005, 17:50
The UAE nees BRedtswords, Sov6s, Hali 21s, Praetorian V launchers aswell as Cordubblos can he have temproray rights to these aswell.

[OOC: Yes, the UAE has the same deal you have. He can create anything Kriegzimmer.]
Moronyicka
28-09-2005, 18:01
Dear Kriegzimmer Storefront,

As our nation currently strives to increase the naval power of our military we wish to purchase the following.

[Carrier Battle Group Package]
1x Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier
4x Manstein class Destroyer
3x Seydlitz class Cruiser
4x Paramount class Air Defense Vessel
5x Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel
125x Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft
--------------------------------------------
Cost: 16,450,000,000 [16.45 billion]

The money will be wired directly from the Department of Defense account upon confirmation

-Thank You
Luis Blage
Minister of defense
Imperial Kingdom of Moronyicka
SkyCapt
28-09-2005, 18:21
To: Kreigzimmer Storefront

We wish to place an order for:
200 Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Fighters ($12 Billion)
100 Incinérateur 155mm Rapid Fire Artillery Pieces ($30 Million)
50 400mm Coastal Railguns ($501 Million [I believe])
5 Maiden Class Submergible Carriers ($30 Billion)
The total comes to $42.531 Billion. (is that a number?) The funds have been wired, have a nice day.
Flashes
28-09-2005, 20:52
To the storefront of Kriegzimmer
My country has recently decided to buy proper military equipment for its troops in the fields of air, ground and infantry.
We therefore wish to buy:
1 Mechanized Division 2,991,000,000
5000 Hali-37 Assault Rifle 15,000,000
5000 Hol-24 9mm Pistol 2,000,000
5000 BDU-64 Samson Battlesuit 250,000,000
200 SOV-06 Infantry Fighting Vehicle 900,000,000
50 RoLu-17 Galician Attack Helicopter 1,400,000,000
200 Munich Mobile Anti-tank Vehicle 760,000,000
10 Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Aircraft 1,200,000,000
120 Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd 960,000,000
at a total cost of 8.478 billion
The money has been wired through from our defence budget. Thank you for your assistance in this matter of national defence.
Sincerely,
S J Portaal,
Benelovent Dictator of Flashes
Rolatia
28-09-2005, 21:11
Greetings,
After being highly satisfied with the part I have already last order, and eagerly waiting the remainder soon, I have decided to expand my armory further.
I therefore am ordering:
[Mechanized Infantry Division Package] x3
at a cost of $8.973B
We have wired the money to your account.
We thank you for your co-operation
McKagan
28-09-2005, 22:08
[New Purchase]
The Imperium has LONG regected the notion of having a Super Dreadnaught (fleet) in our navy. But seeing more and more nations turning to employing low numbers of other vessels and semi-large numbers of Dreadnaughts, we have decided that having a small Super Dreadnaught force around would give us an EXTREME tactical advance, especially when enforcing our "Three strikes and we nuke it!" policy. Before now we have relied pretty much on Praetonian Battleships/Pocketbattleships/Pocketdreadnaughts. We would like to end this streak, and are purchasing five of your Zealous Class for 800 billion USD.
Halberdgardia
28-09-2005, 22:21
Due to rising tensions in World War VII, the need for an expanded superdreadnaught capacity in our navy has arisen. In anticipation of the possible loss of our sole Zealous-class superdreadnaught in the conflict against Doomingsland, the Democratic Imperium would like to purchase two Zealous-class superdreadnaughts for $400 billion, as well as seven Argentine-class galleons for $910 billion, for a total of $1.31 trillion. Payment will be wired upon confirmation.
The Macabees
28-09-2005, 23:12
Dear Kriegzimmer Storefront,

As our nation currently strives to increase the naval power of our military we wish to purchase the following.

[Carrier Battle Group Package]
1x Indestructable class Aircraft Carrier
4x Manstein class Destroyer
3x Seydlitz class Cruiser
4x Paramount class Air Defense Vessel
5x Pepperbox class Logistical Suppor Vessel
125x Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL Multi-Role Aircraft
--------------------------------------------
Cost: 16,450,000,000 [16.45 billion]

The money will be wired directly from the Department of Defense account upon confirmation

-Thank You
Luis Blage
Minister of defense
Imperial Kingdom of Moronyicka

To: Luis Blage, Imperial Kingdom of Moronyicka
The Carrier Battle Group package has been confirmed, and it will be delivered as one package in exactly thirty-six months, fully operational. It will take crews a further twelve to twenty-four months to train, although we will send you the training gear so that you can begin immediately, meaning the fleet's crew will become fully operation before the arrival of your Carrier Battle Group package.

Thank you for your order, it has been appreciated at Kriegzimmer. We guarantee you that you will receive your new package with gusto, and we guarantee you its relative superiority in combat situations.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


To: Kreigzimmer Storefront

We wish to place an order for:
200 Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Fighters ($12 Billion)
100 Incinérateur 155mm Rapid Fire Artillery Pieces ($30 Million)
50 400mm Coastal Railguns ($501 Million [I believe])
5 Maiden Class Submergible Carriers ($30 Billion)
The total comes to $42.531 Billion. (is that a number?) The funds have been wired, have a nice day.


To: SkyCapt
Your order has been confirmed, and as a consequence, the Lu-45s will arrive within one month, the Incinerateurs within one month, the rail guns within two months and the five Maiden class Submergible Carriers within twelve months.

The latter part of the order is supplied by Hailandkill, since it is his developement, however that timescale is accurate and quality is no lesser than that given by Kriegzimmer, you have our word in that. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


To the storefront of Kriegzimmer
My country has recently decided to buy proper military equipment for its troops in the fields of air, ground and infantry.
We therefore wish to buy:
1 Mechanized Division 2,991,000,000
5000 Hali-37 Assault Rifle 15,000,000
5000 Hol-24 9mm Pistol 2,000,000
5000 BDU-64 Samson Battlesuit 250,000,000
200 SOV-06 Infantry Fighting Vehicle 900,000,000
50 RoLu-17 Galician Attack Helicopter 1,400,000,000
200 Munich Mobile Anti-tank Vehicle 760,000,000
10 Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Aircraft 1,200,000,000
120 Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd 960,000,000
at a total cost of 8.478 billion
The money has been wired through from our defence budget. Thank you for your assistance in this matter of national defence.
Sincerely,
S J Portaal,


To: S. J. Portaal, Flashes

We are glad that you have looked to Kriegzimmer to provide you with the ordnace you require for your ever growing military. We believe there is no other military provider that can provide you with the top of the line equipment as fast as Kriegzimmer can. The single mechanized infantry division package will come within twelve months, the assault rifles and sidearm pistols within two months, the battlesuits within one month, the SOV-06 within two months, the RoLu-17s within one month, the Munichs within three months, the Lu-45s within three weeks and the armor within the next month.

Thank you for your order, the excellence of these weapons are guaranteed.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Greetings,
After being highly satisfied with the part I have already last order, and eagerly waiting the remainder soon, I have decided to expand my armory further.
I therefore am ordering:
[Mechanized Infantry Division Package] x3
at a cost of $8.973B
We have wired the money to your account.
We thank you for your co-operation


To: Rolatia

We are glad that you were satisfied with our ordnance, and because of that the new order has been immediately confirmed. The three Mech. Inf. Div. packages will arrive within six months. Thank you for yet another order; this one is guaranteed to be as satisfying as the last.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


[New Purchase]
The Imperium has LONG regected the notion of having a Super Dreadnaught (fleet) in our navy. But seeing more and more nations turning to employing low numbers of other vessels and semi-large numbers of Dreadnaughts, we have decided that having a small Super Dreadnaught force around would give us an EXTREME tactical advance, especially when enforcing our "Three strikes and we nuke it!" policy. Before now we have relied pretty much on Praetonian Battleships/Pocketbattleships/Pocketdreadnaughts. We would like to end this streak, and are purchasing five of your Zealous Class for 800 billion USD.


To: McKagan

If you're looking for something to oppose the dreadnought we suggest you take a look at the Argentine class Galleon. We will hold this order until you make your final decision. If you decide to go with the current order it will promptly be confirmed and built.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Due to rising tensions in World War VII, the need for an expanded superdreadnaught capacity in our navy has arisen. In anticipation of the possible loss of our sole Zealous-class superdreadnaught in the conflict against Doomingsland, the Democratic Imperium would like to purchase two Zealous-class superdreadnaughts for $400 billion, as well as seven Argentine-class galleons for $910 billion, for a total of $1.31 trillion. Payment will be wired upon confirmation.


To: Halberdgardia

Yes, the OMP-Gholgoth War is rising in casualties [I hate calling it WWVII since it's not even like a World War, but meh], and because of that we understand the utter urgency of equipment going to countries in the midst of the war. Thw two Zealous class Superdreadnoughts will be put immediately to construction, as well the Argentines. The former will arrive within twenty-eight months, and the latter will arrive one per eighteen months, starting the first eighteen months. Thank you for the order, we hope, as supporters of the OMP, that your war against Doomingsland goes well.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
28-09-2005, 23:23
-snip-

We figure that if we're going to spend money on large items, it needs to be as multifuctional as possible. That said, what's more funtional than 30" guns?

Yes, we confirm the order.
The Macabees
28-09-2005, 23:26
We figure that if we're going to spend money on large items, it needs to be as multifuctional as possible. That said, what's more funtional than 30" guns?

Yes, we confirm the order.

[OOC: The guns are different. The guns on the Zealous pack a multi-functional force in the way that it can pack a bang against ships, or shell beaches. But, the Argentine's guns are better adept at destroying extremely large dreadnoughts, and they can still shell a beach at long ranges.]
McKagan
29-09-2005, 00:38
[OOC: I know how to fix it!]
[New Purchase]
We would very much like to order the 5 Zealous', but your sales pitch has gotten us to thinking about the other design. We do not need a large conventional force of your Dreadnaught Killers, as we would probably use a fast attack from nuclear stations. Nonetheless, we would like to buy 8 of your Argentine's for 832 billion USD.

(OOC: Ok, I'm probably done for a few days now, I don't want to spend over 3 trillion in one storefront in less than a week... wait.... I think I already have, dammit.)
The Macabees
29-09-2005, 00:45
[OOC: I know how to fix it!]
[New Purchase]
We would very much like to order the 5 Zealous', but your sales pitch has gotten us to thinking about the other design. We do not need a large conventional force of your Dreadnaught Killers, as we would probably use a fast attack from nuclear stations. Nonetheless, we would like to buy 8 of your Argentine's for 832 billion USD.

(OOC: Ok, I'm probably done for a few days now, I don't want to spend over 3 trillion in one storefront in less than a week... wait.... I think I already have, dammit.)

[OOC: It's all good]

To: McKagan

Your order has been confirmed, and trust us, for your purposes the Argentines will satisfy you more for what you want to use them for. The eight Argentines will arrive one per fifteen months and the five Zealous will arrive every eighteen months. Thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
29-09-2005, 00:49
OOC: I know I didn't word it like this, but I also want the Zealous Dreadnaughts. Kinda to compliment. I know, I know, I didn't say it right, my fault.
The Macabees
29-09-2005, 00:55
[OOC: Edited.]
The Exodians
29-09-2005, 16:32
If at all possible, The Kingdom of Netherlands would like to purchase the following Ground Vehicles to equip their forces with:

-Praetorian V Mobile Surface to Air Missile Battery(1)
-Panzerwerfer M-2000 MRLS(3)
-Munich Mobile Antitank Vehicle(3)
X100=(700)
300M$+60M$+380M$=740M$
X200=(140000)
740MX200=148B$

And to defend our large (read:huge) coastline against invaders oversea, we would also like to buy:

400mm Coastal Rail Gun(25)
1.2M$
X3000=(75000)
1.2MX3000=3.6B$

We understand that due to unusual high numbers of products requested, delivery might be slowed. Half of the 151.6 Billion Dollars will be wired upon acceptancy of the contract and the other half will be wired at the final delivery. If you could notify us when to expect these products, we would sincerely thank you.

Signed,

The Netherlands

(OOC:I think I have done the maths right, but I'm not completely sure of it. And telling how long it will take in RL would be very helpful too ;) )
The Macabees
29-09-2005, 17:03
If at all possible, The Kingdom of Netherlands would like to purchase the following Ground Vehicles to equip their forces with:

-Praetorian V Mobile Surface to Air Missile Battery(1)
-Panzerwerfer M-2000 MRLS(3)
-Munich Mobile Antitank Vehicle(3)
X100=(700)
300M$+60M$+380M$=740M$
X200=(140000)
740MX200=148B$

And to defend our large (read:huge) coastline against invaders oversea, we would also like to buy:

400mm Coastal Rail Gun(25)
1.2M$
X3000=(75000)
1.2MX3000=3.6B$

We understand that due to unusual high numbers of products requested, delivery might be slowed. Half of the 151.6 Billion Dollars will be wired upon acceptancy of the contract and the other half will be wired at the final delivery. If you could notify us when to expect these products, we would sincerely thank you.

Signed,

The Netherlands

(OOC:I think I have done the maths right, but I'm not completely sure of it. And telling how long it will take in RL would be very helpful too ;) )


[W@W]


To: The Netherlands

It has all been confirmed. The Panzerwerfers and the Munichs will take about eight months [just assume two RL days], and the rest will arrive within twelve months [just use four RL days]. Your payment method has been accepted, and we expect an electronic transfer in twelve months. Regardless, we are glad to have a renewed friendly Netherlands next to us, and perhaps they would be interested in a unified Europe under CoG. Nonetheless, this is not the area for politics. Thank you for your first order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Rolatia
29-09-2005, 17:16
Greetings,
I am highly happy with my last order as much as the first, with our army becoming stronger and stronger. At the same time, I am thankful that I did not take out a loan, as my economy has just imploded and it may take time to recover. This shortfall has seriously dented my budget, but we still have about 1.5 billion
My country right now has no air troops. This is a major flaw, so I have therefore decided to purchase following aircraft to strengthen my air force with my low budget I have as of current. We have also put in an order for pistols for our currently unequipped men in our force of 225,000:
10x Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Aircraft
117,000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol
for a total of $1.2468B
I am hoping for the same sort of standards experienced with the ground equipment ordered from you earlier
Thank you for your service,
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
Flashes
29-09-2005, 17:45
Greetings,
After being very satisified with my last purchase, I have decided to expand my military further. Therefore, I am purchasing:
322,000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol 132,800,000
1x GLI-34 Albatross Long Range Stealth Bomber 2,500,000,000
3x Cartagena SSN 3,300,000,000
200x Praetorian V Mobile Surface to Air Missile Battery 600,000,000
100x Incinérateur 155mm Rapid Fire Artillery 30,000,000
1,000x SOV-06 Infantry Fighting Vehicle 4,500,000,000
322,000x Hali-37 Assault Rifle 664,000,000
at a total cost of $11.7268B dollars
The money has been wired to your account. We thank you for your co-operation
S J Portaal,
Benelovent Dictator of Flashes
The Macabees
29-09-2005, 22:21
Greetings,
I am highly happy with my last order as much as the first, with our army becoming stronger and stronger. At the same time, I am thankful that I did not take out a loan, as my economy has just imploded and it may take time to recover. This shortfall has seriously dented my budget, but we still have about 1.5 billion
My country right now has no air troops. This is a major flaw, so I have therefore decided to purchase following aircraft to strengthen my air force with my low budget I have as of current. We have also put in an order for pistols for our currently unequipped men in our force of 225,000:
10x Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Aircraft
117,000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol
for a total of $1.2468B
I am hoping for the same sort of standards experienced with the ground equipment ordered from you earlier
Thank you for your service,
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

To: Dr. J. Edwards, Rolatia

We're glad that your army has been satisfied by the technology bought off Kriegzimmer, and we would be happy to confirm this newest order for your aerial wing. The Luf-45s will arrive in two weeks, and the pistols within one month. We're sure that your airforce and your air assault wings will be happy with their new equipment.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Greetings,
After being very satisified with my last purchase, I have decided to expand my military further. Therefore, I am purchasing:
322,000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol 132,800,000
1x GLI-34 Albatross Long Range Stealth Bomber 2,500,000,000
3x Cartagena SSN 3,300,000,000
200x Praetorian V Mobile Surface to Air Missile Battery 600,000,000
100x Incinérateur 155mm Rapid Fire Artillery 30,000,000
1,000x SOV-06 Infantry Fighting Vehicle 4,500,000,000
322,000x Hali-37 Assault Rifle 664,000,000
at a total cost of $11.7268B dollars
The money has been wired to your account. We thank you for your co-operation
S J Portaal,
Benelovent Dictator of Flashes


To: S. J. Portaal, Flashes

We're happy that the last order went so well for you, and we're glad that you have decided to return to Kriegzimmer. As a consequence the entire order has been confirmed, and the Hol-24 9mm pistols will arrive within one month, the GLI-34 within one month, the three Cartagenas within eight months, the Incinerateurs within one month, the SOV-06s within three months, and the assault rifles within one month. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Rolatia
30-09-2005, 14:22
Greetings,
After finding our latest order is up to the impeccable standards that have become associated among our soldiers with Kriegzimmer, we have decided to expand our air force with transport aircraft, and also continue to increase the armanents of our ground troops. We are therefore ordering the following:
6x Be-23 Archimede's Lever Heavy Transport Aircraft
117,000x Hali-37 Assault Rifle
at a total of $1.374B
The money has been wired through to your account. We thank you for your service
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
30-09-2005, 14:32
Greetings,
After finding our latest order is up to the impeccable standards that have become associated among our soldiers with Kriegzimmer, we have decided to expand our air force with transport aircraft, and also continue to increase the armanents of our ground troops. We are therefore ordering the following:
6x Be-23 Archimede's Lever Heavy Transport Aircraft
117,000x Hali-37 Assault Rifle
at a total of $1.374B
The money has been wired through to your account. We thank you for your service
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

To: Dr. J Edwards

Your newest order has been approved, and you are fast approaching your 15% discount, although we still can't give it to you; but nonetheless, you're elligible for it soon. Regardless, the Be-23s will arrive in one month, as well the assault rifles. We have received the money, and you will receive your goods within the time specified. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Rolatia
30-09-2005, 18:43
Greetings,
It would appear we made a mistake in our order. We meant to order Hali-21 assault rifles. We are now wondering if we could ship them back to you and buy Hali-21s instrad. We would pay the price difference and an extra $100 per unit at a cost of $128,700,000, with $90,000,000 wired through immediately and the rest in three months when my budget is renewed. I fully understand if this is not possible
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
30-09-2005, 18:50
Greetings,
It would appear we made a mistake in our order. We meant to order Hali-21 assault rifles. We are now wondering if we could ship them back to you and buy Hali-21s instrad. We would pay the price difference and an extra $100 per unit at a cost of $128,700,000, with $90,000,000 wired through immediately and the rest in three months when my budget is renewed. I fully understand if this is not possible
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

To: Dr. J. Edwards, Rolatia

The mistake is understood and the shipment has been cancelled. In its stead the Hali-21s will be sent. The shipment date is the same. Don't worry, Kriegzimmer confirms to the client, not the other way around.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Pushka
30-09-2005, 20:26
OOC: Alright dude, we both got a little bit over excited on MSN, sorry. Lets just be friends.
The Macabees
30-09-2005, 20:28
OOC: Alright dude, we both got a little bit over excited on MSN, sorry. Lets just be friends.

[OOC: No, I plan to rape your women first.]
Corzia
30-09-2005, 23:11
We are interested in the progress of the gun. We will be sending troops into harms way for the first time in fifty years and would like to have some "protection"
McKagan
01-10-2005, 02:33
[New Purchase]
Our amphibious forces have began to see alot more action in backwater nations. Most backwater/hick nations cannot defend against a single destroyer, much less one that can not only eliminate arial threats, but have the ability to launch it's own.

We would like to purchase 500 of your Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL aircrafts.

Price: 32 billion USD
The Macabees
01-10-2005, 08:08
[New Purchase]
Our amphibious forces have began to see alot more action in backwater nations. Most backwater/hick nations cannot defend against a single destroyer, much less one that can not only eliminate arial threats, but have the ability to launch it's own.

We would like to purchase 500 of your Lu-25 Black Mariah STOVL aircrafts.

Price: 32 billion USD


To: McKagan

The order has been confirmed, and the Lu-25s will arrive within three months.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

OOC: No time, sorry. Corzia, it might be up tomorrow.]
The Exodians
01-10-2005, 12:15
After being very pleased with the quality of the deliverd equipment, the Netherlands ran into a problem. The coastline appears to be far larger than expected, and thus more protection is needed.

Therefor, we would like another delivery of 400mm Coastal Railguns, the same quantity as before.
(That's this)
400mm Coastal Rail Gun(25)
1.2M$
X3000=(75000)
1.2MX3000=3.6B$
On a related note, does Germany have any production rights of submarines for sale? With the space above the water becoming smaller and more contested, we would like to have adequate protection.

Signed,

NL

[OOC: On a sidenote, you are a tech-mod right? So I should be bothering you with new designs before realising them?:OOC]
Rolatia
01-10-2005, 15:20
Greetings,
The Rolatian military continues to be satisified with your equipment. Our economy has just experienced a huge boost, so we have a budget of slightly over $13B we are able to spend. Rest assured, we will continue ordering as we are building an army in territories in Africa. We are therefore purchasing:
100x RoLu-17 Galicia Attack Helicopter @ $2.8B
250x Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd Main Battle Tank @ $2.0B
41250x Hol-24 9mm Pistol @ $16.5M
41250x Hali-21 Assault Rifle @ $123.75M
12750x BDU-64 Samson Battlesuit @ $637.5M
25x Lu-12 Canary Tactical Strike Fighter @ $2.25B
2x GLI-34 Albatross Long Range Stealth Bomber @ $5B
250x 150mm Panzerwerfer M-2000 MRLS @ $150M
1000x 155mm Incinérateur Rapid Firing Artillery Gun @ $300M
at a total cost of $13.27775B
We thank you for your continued services, and are highly expectant of the top-notch quality we have recieved from your forces before
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
01-10-2005, 20:18
After being very pleased with the quality of the deliverd equipment, the Netherlands ran into a problem. The coastline appears to be far larger than expected, and thus more protection is needed.

Therefor, we would like another delivery of 400mm Coastal Railguns, the same quantity as before.
(That's this)
400mm Coastal Rail Gun(25)
1.2M$
X3000=(75000)
1.2MX3000=3.6B$
On a related note, does Germany have any production rights of submarines for sale? With the space above the water becoming smaller and more contested, we would like to have adequate protection.

Signed,

NL

[OOC: On a sidenote, you are a tech-mod right? So I should be bothering you with new designs before realising them?:OOC]


[OOC: Should there be a problem with your design they'll tell you. Just post it. I'm actually the owner of the boards, and an all around administrator.]

[W@W]

To: The Hague, Amsterdam
The order is confirmed and the rail guns will be transferred by rail [how ironic] to the Netherlands at a rate of five hundred per month. As for the submarines, [OOC: for W@W] all technology has production rights. We have two to choose from [three technically, but SSBNs I don't use on W@W], the Cartagena SSN or the Valencia SSK [diesel/electric]. For offensive power we suggest the Cartagena, but for defensive power we suggest the Valencia. The production rights are 100 billion and 48 billion respectively. Thank you for your time.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


Greetings,
The Rolatian military continues to be satisified with your equipment. Our economy has just experienced a huge boost, so we have a budget of slightly over $13B we are able to spend. Rest assured, we will continue ordering as we are building an army in territories in Africa. We are therefore purchasing:
100x RoLu-17 Galicia Attack Helicopter @ $2.8B
250x Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd Main Battle Tank @ $2.0B
41250x Hol-24 9mm Pistol @ $16.5M
41250x Hali-21 Assault Rifle @ $123.75M
12750x BDU-64 Samson Battlesuit @ $637.5M
25x Lu-12 Canary Tactical Strike Fighter @ $2.25B
2x GLI-34 Albatross Long Range Stealth Bomber @ $5B
250x 150mm Panzerwerfer M-2000 MRLS @ $150M
1000x 155mm Incinérateur Rapid Firing Artillery Gun @ $300M
at a total cost of $13.27775B
We thank you for your continued services, and are highly expectant of the top-notch quality we have recieved from your forces before
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia


To: Dr. J. Edwards
We are glad that you have come once again, and yes all the equipment will be top notch no matter when you purchase it. The RoLu-17s will arrive within the month, as well the GLI-34s and the Lu-12s. The Panzerwerfers and Incinerateurs will arrive within two months, while the rifles and pistols will arrive within three months. The Samsons will arrive within four to five months.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Exodians
01-10-2005, 20:35
[OOC:And where should such things be posted? After this I'll (most likely) stop bothering you with questions.]

As mentioned before, the main goal is to protect our country, not to strike at our enemies. Thus the Valencia class sounds exactly what we need. To make it all easier, we - the Netherlands - will purchase the production rights for the total sum of 50 Billion Dollar. Payment should arrive any minute now.

Signed,

NL

PS Do the production rights to the Valencia also include advice on how to construct them the most effective? That would be appreciated.
The Macabees
01-10-2005, 21:19
[OOC: Post it in the martial mercantilism section, and as for the most effective construction guidelines; that would depend more on your industry and how it's ready to take on the construction of new submarines. But, on the most part, yes, you will receive information on the optimal equipment and workers qualifications for the Valencia.]

To: The Hague, Netherlands
Very well, the Valencia is yours. We guarantee you it will keep your coastlines safe from foreign invaders.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
01-10-2005, 21:51
IF you added teh neccesary booster stage how easy would it be to adapt a Cadiz class SSBN to fire this
http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=28
The Macabees
01-10-2005, 22:16
IF you added teh neccesary booster stage how easy would it be to adapt a Cadiz class SSBN to fire this
http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=28

[OOC: You can use that with both the Cartagena and Cadiz. I would suggest however that you make a little variant of it, and you don't have to re-write everything, but just redo the missile width and height to be able to be used on my VLS tubes.]
The Macabees
01-10-2005, 22:17
ATG-44 SHaped Anti-TAnk Mine

[OOC: This is my first ever lineart, so don't make fun of it. I've already gone through with it on Lineartinc, and I promise my next one will be much better.]


http://modernwarstudies.net/ATG-44.1.gif

http://modernwarstudies.net/ATG-44.2.gifhttp://modernwarstudies.net/ATG-44.3.gif


Type: Anti-tank
Height: 34 cm.
Width: 19cm.
Weight: 8.9 kilograms
Explosive: 14.7 heptanitrocubane [HpNC]
Penetration: 210mm RHA CE
Detection: Pressure Gauge
Arming: Automatic
Anti-Handling Device: Yes

The ATG-44 uses a very old concept to create a very modern anti-tank mine. The concept of the charge dates back to the design of the Panzerwaffe, one of the most infamous German anti-tank rockets which wreaked havoc on Russian and Western Allied tanks alike. Of course, surfaced rockets like the Panzerwaffe have long become obsolete, however, the ATG-44, unlike these others, bases itself underground, as an anti-tank mine.

When the shaped charge ignites the force is concentrated on the hollow center infront of it, called the Monro Effect; more specifically, A forceful jetstream of the explosion gases results that hits the steel target with a speed of typically 15000 meters per second and penetrating pressure in excess of 12 million kg/cm2. When the explosion occurs, the liner metal is formed into a spike of molten metal (although there is some discussion on whether it is liquid or solid; most times it is referred to a "plasma" jet, plasma not in the technical subatomic sense but in the sense of an in-between state of the metal between liquiduous and solid). To be most effective, the shaped charge has to be detonated at the right distance from the target. If it detonates too close to the armor, the plasma-jet hasn't formed out before hitting the surface and the effect is lessened somwewhat. If detonated too far from the armor surface, the plasma jet has unfocused and partly spent itself already (this effect is used in applying spaced armor, described below).

The ATG-44 has an anti-handeling device that also sets the fuse, like the pressure gauge, allowing the mine to blow before it can be dismantled. It's a safeguard against mass mine dismantling programs. Also, there is very little metal in the mine, making it more difficult for mine detectors to detect the ATG-44.

The fuse works with a small pressure guage [the green part of the mine], that is enlarged in the picture, but in true use only sticks up from the ground for about half a centimeter. It measures the pressure on the nearby surface for about two meters, taking in mind the weight of vehicles and the such. It's designed to set the fuse for vehicles over two hundred kilograms, and waits until the vehicle is more or less centered over the mine, but detecting pressure crafted by the tracks or wheels of the vehicle. It has proved to be a highly effective method of setting the fuse.

The ATG-44 does not have a self-destruct option. It is to say, the mine is there to stay until it is detonated or dismantled by professionals that know the mine well.


Cost: $300 USD
Pushka
01-10-2005, 23:17
OOC: Ah did you already make the fusion reactor thread? Please TG me the link if you did.
The Macabees
01-10-2005, 23:32
OOC: Ah did you already make the fusion reactor thread? Please TG me the link if you did.

[OOC: No, I didn't. I had to go over to a friend's house yesterday and didn't get home until 2AM. I might get it up today, not sure - if you want to, go ahead. Tomorrow I have a project for my aeronautical engineering major up at UCSD so I probably won't be able to get it up then either.]
Pushka
01-10-2005, 23:44
OOC: Thats cool, i'll wait for you to do it.
Rolatia
02-10-2005, 19:21
Greetings,
The Rolatian military are looking to expand their armanents even further to defend themselves against any threats to our national security, especially in the field of defending our noble soldiers. We are therefore purchasing:
250x Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun
125000x BDU-64 Samson Battlesuit
200x Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd Main Battle Tank
100x Munich Mobile Anti-tank Vehicle
25x RoLu-17 Galicia Attack Helicopter
at a total cost of $9.08B
The money has been wired through to your account. We look forward to the high quality weaponry and vehicles that have seen Rolatia conquer multiple countries.
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
02-10-2005, 22:06
Greetings,
The Rolatian military are looking to expand their armanents even further to defend themselves against any threats to our national security, especially in the field of defending our noble soldiers. We are therefore purchasing:
250x Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun
125000x BDU-64 Samson Battlesuit
200x Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd Main Battle Tank
100x Munich Mobile Anti-tank Vehicle
25x RoLu-17 Galicia Attack Helicopter
at a total cost of $9.08B
The money has been wired through to your account. We look forward to the high quality weaponry and vehicles that have seen Rolatia conquer multiple countries.
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

To: Dr. J. Edwards. Rolatia

As you are such a loyal costumer your order has been confirmed without hesitation. It is to say, the Corbulos, Munichs and RoLus will be making it within the month, while the Panzers will be there within two months and the BDU's within four months.

We have received the electronic transfer of your money. We hope that the weapons prove to be as useful to your nation as did the latch batch. Thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Nova Speculum
03-10-2005, 00:41
W@W Persia:

The Kingdom of Persia wishes to purchase 3 Zealous Class Super Dreadnoughts with full complement of aircraft at a cost of $600,000,000,000 USD to be wired upon confirmation.

We also ask for confirmation of the full crew requirements (OOC: I make it 8300 per ship; is that correct?)
Starenell
03-10-2005, 01:49
Starenell would like to purchase:

80,000 Samson Battlesuits for $4,000,000,000
100,000 Hol-24 Pistols for $40,000,000
20,000 Tagus Anti-Tank for $500,000,000

Total Money Wired: $4,540,000,000
Corzia
03-10-2005, 15:50
[ooc: no worries, i just can't wait to try it on someone]
The Macabees
03-10-2005, 16:18
[ooc: no worries, i just can't wait to try it on someone]

[OOC: Ok, the best I can come up with.]

[Corzian Supergun]

The idea of the supergun is to have a single gun that can reach distances never before conceived for an artillery gun. The task set in front of Kriegzimmer was one that required them to design a supergun that would be both strong and light, and something that could stand the test of the shells and work for a prolonged period of time. Ripping a page out of Gerald Bull's book, Kriegzimmer opted for a design forged fully of special alloys, but with the diameter of something not seen since the Big Bertha, the largest artillery gun in the history of warfare [designed by Germany; 800mm].

Nonetheless, the design is one of expense, and large manpower. Nevertheless, the implications of the design are horrendous for all warfare out there. Imagine getting shelled by something over four thousand kilometers away. Regardless, it's a proof of inginuity, and brings in a new era in artillery warfare - the era of the supergun.

There are two variants. One is meant as a long range artillery platform, while one is meant for shorter range bombardments, mostly in the defense of the larger platform. They both server their specific purpose for the well being of all the guns.

[Statistics; Variant 1]
Length of the Base: 121.92 meters
Width of the Base: 45.72 meters
Length of the Barrel: 173.23 meters
Height at the Tip: 91.44 meters [suspended by cables]
Diameter of the Barrel: 800mm
Propellant: Railgun/magnetic force/Lorentz Force
Range: 4,500 kilometers
Weight: 1,905 tonnes
Make: The alloys are clandestine, although the same alloys were used on the Project Babylon gun. The idea was to make the gun as light as possible, with the same effective range. It worked quite well, until Bull was assassinated.

The idea for Variant 1 is for the projectile to be fired into orbit, and then land on the unsuspecting target. Indeed, that's the idea behind the railgun of the DDX, and the same idea was transferred here, a land based gun.

[Statistics; Variant 2
Length of the Base: 84.87 meters
Width of the Base: 25.92 meters
Length of the Barrel: 143.76 meters
Height at the Tip: 75.94 meters [suspended by cables]
Diameter of the Barrel: 500mm
Propellant: Electro-thermal chemical with EM rifling
Range: 300 kilometers
Weight: 987 tonnes
Make: The same alloys are used in this gun, as they were used in the first variant.

The idea behind Variant 2 is to provide a short range [actually, a pretty long range] suppressant system in case the enemy attempts to get artillery or ships within range of the supergun. Consequently, it's a system that is entirely based on protection. However, it can also be used as a standard artillery piece for besieging cities and such.

Both of the guns have to be transported in pieces by truck or rail, and assembled at their selected spot, due to their weight. The guns also must be suspended by cable or the heavy barrel will crack and break. Regardless, these are the future superdreadnoughts of land warfare.
The Macabees
03-10-2005, 16:22
W@W Persia:

The Kingdom of Persia wishes to purchase 3 Zealous Class Super Dreadnoughts with full complement of aircraft at a cost of $600,000,000,000 USD to be wired upon confirmation.

We also ask for confirmation of the full crew requirements (OOC: I make it 8300 per ship; is that correct?)

[W@W (http://modernwarstudies.net/worldatwar)]

To: Persia

Kriegzimmer is currently hostile to Persia, due to the wars with Saudi Arabia, but we have a specific policy of selling to anybody, consequently, with rather much hesitation, we approve your order. The three Zealous class Super Dreadnoughts and their aircraft compliments will take a total of six years to complete. Nonetheless, the wait is well worth the treat, we can assure you of that.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



Starenell would like to purchase:

80,000 Samson Battlesuits for $4,000,000,000
100,000 Hol-24 Pistols for $40,000,000
20,000 Tagus Anti-Tank for $500,000,000

Total Money Wired: $4,540,000,000


To: Starenell
Your order has been confirmed! The battlesuits will arrive within three months, as weill the Hol-24 pistols. The tagus anti-tank launchers and missiles will arrive within five months. Thank you for your order. Our quality is guaranteed.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Corzia
03-10-2005, 16:57
Corzia finds this design perfect for our needs. We have plans for three (possibly five) stations. We have also included a new order for the protect of these sites.
We request the following:
-15 000 000 ATG-44 Shaped Anti-Tank Mines (4 500 000 000 USD)
-1 500 Panzerkamphwaggen XI MBT's (12 000 000 000 USD)
-1 200 Panzerkamphwaggen XII Light Tanks (4 200 000 000 USD)
-1 200 Praetorian SAM Batteries (3 600 000 000 USD)
-300 Lu-45 Hawk's (36 000 000 000 USD)

Our total should be (with discount): 593 955 000 000 USD
The Exodians
03-10-2005, 17:52
To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
Sender: The Netherlands

Due to a 'small mistake' - of which the maker has now been expelled from all duties - a crucial part of the defences has been forgotten. To make up for this problem as fast as possible, the Dutch government is willing to order the production rights for the Paramount ADV, if at all possible.

Furthermore, it wishes several pieces of information for the good of the country:
1.Are they allowed to take the aspects of bought technology(ie. armour, propulsion, etc.)for the development of new technology? Naturally, Germany will receive full credit for its work and a 'symbolical' reward.
2.The Zealous class Dreadnought has a capacity for a thousand soldiers and one-hundred-and-fifty aircraft. Would it be possible to completely scrap the ability to launch aircraft and replace it by a much larger transport capacity that cannot only hold infantry, but also armoured vehicles?
3.Are there any other types of mines available in this store, or are the mentioned ATG-44's the only ones in the Kriegzimmer?

We hope you can help us with all the above,

NL
Spizania
03-10-2005, 18:34
For regualr NS the nation of Spizania wishes to order:
1 Argentine Class Galleon
8 Paramount ADVs

Money on comfirmation

Also what is your estimate on construction time for the Argentine Class Galleon

OOC: UAE is going to start churning them out to combat the four superdreadnaughts Persias going to have (wheres he getting the oney)
The Macabees
03-10-2005, 21:44
Corzia finds this design perfect for our needs. We have plans for three (possibly five) stations. We have also included a new order for the protect of these sites.
We request the following:
-15 000 000 ATG-44 Shaped Anti-Tank Mines (4 500 000 000 USD)
-1 500 Panzerkamphwaggen XI MBT's (12 000 000 000 USD)
-1 200 Panzerkamphwaggen XII Light Tanks (4 200 000 000 USD)
-1 200 Praetorian SAM Batteries (3 600 000 000 USD)
-300 Lu-45 Hawk's (36 000 000 000 USD)

Our total should be (with discount): 593 955 000 000 USD


To: Corzia

We're glad that the supergun design has satisfied the needs of your military. As for your order, it was been approved. The ATG-44s will arrive within seven months [at a rate of over two million per month], while both types of armor will arrive within three months. The Praetorians will arrive within four months and the Hawks within a single month.

Thank you for yet another order. Your continued loyalty is appreciated within the ranks of Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
Sender: The Netherlands

Due to a 'small mistake' - of which the maker has now been expelled from all duties - a crucial part of the defences has been forgotten. To make up for this problem as fast as possible, the Dutch government is willing to order the production rights for the Paramount ADV, if at all possible.

Furthermore, it wishes several pieces of information for the good of the country:
1.Are they allowed to take the aspects of bought technology(ie. armour, propulsion, etc.)for the development of new technology? Naturally, Germany will receive full credit for its work and a 'symbolical' reward.
2.The Zealous class Dreadnought has a capacity for a thousand soldiers and one-hundred-and-fifty aircraft. Would it be possible to completely scrap the ability to launch aircraft and replace it by a much larger transport capacity that cannot only hold infantry, but also armoured vehicles?
3.Are there any other types of mines available in this store, or are the mentioned ATG-44's the only ones in the Kriegzimmer?

We hope you can help us with all the above,

NL


[W@W]

To: The Hague, Netherlands

Production rights to the Paramount class ADV would be thirty billion USD. As for your questions; first, you may use all the aspects of our technology that you want. There are no true copyright laws in the world of technology. Second, yes you could swap the internal hangars for passanger bunks, and have a much greater capacity. But now why just use a standard troop carrier for that, which can carry thirty thousand or more men? Third, as of now Kriegzimmer only sponsors the ATG-44, however, dozens of new mines are planned to be constructed.

Thank you for your time,

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


For regualr NS the nation of Spizania wishes to order:
1 Argentine Class Galleon
8 Paramount ADVs

Money on comfirmation

Also what is your estimate on construction time for the Argentine Class Galleon


To: Spizania
Your order has been confirmed. The Argentine will arrive in a year and a half, while the eight Paramounts will arrive within the year. For a normal shipyard we would suspect that construction time for the Argentine would be around two years. Thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
03-10-2005, 22:09
Coudl you design an SSGN similar to the crusie missile refitted Ohio Class to carry a mix of those Gladuis Missiles i talked about earlier as well as other weapons such as shockhounds and a more conventially sized cruise missiles in a hull rlarger than the Typhoon, also how big is the Decurion SLBM used in the Cadiz.
Starenell
03-10-2005, 22:37
Starenell would like to buy another 20,000 Battlesuits.
$1,000,000,000 has been wired.
Rolatia
03-10-2005, 23:42
Greetings,
After realising that there may be a good deal more recruits from our population who may want to join the army in the future, we have decided to purchase assault rifles and pistols for them. We are in an economic crisis at the moment, but we have decided to find what little out of our military budget we can spend, and spend it here we shall before the year ends in under a week. We are therefore purchasing:
100000x Hali-21 Assault Rifle
100000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol
at a total cost of $340M
The money has been wired to your account. We thank you for your continued service, and hope our country can expand and prosper thanks to the invaluable supply you have provided for ground and air forces in the past
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
04-10-2005, 15:01
Coudl you design an SSGN similar to the crusie missile refitted Ohio Class to carry a mix of those Gladuis Missiles i talked about earlier as well as other weapons such as shockhounds and a more conventially sized cruise missiles in a hull rlarger than the Typhoon, also how big is the Decurion SLBM used in the Cadiz.

[OOC: Yea, I'll get to it after I finish my Cleaver class Destroyer, which should be soon.]


Starenell would like to buy another 20,000 Battlesuits.
$1,000,000,000 has been wired.


To: Starenell

Your order for twenty thousand battlesuits has been confirmed and will finish their shipments within two months. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



Greetings,
After realising that there may be a good deal more recruits from our population who may want to join the army in the future, we have decided to purchase assault rifles and pistols for them. We are in an economic crisis at the moment, but we have decided to find what little out of our military budget we can spend, and spend it here we shall before the year ends in under a week. We are therefore purchasing:
100000x Hali-21 Assault Rifle
100000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol
at a total cost of $340M
The money has been wired to your account. We thank you for your continued service, and hope our country can expand and prosper thanks to the invaluable supply you have provided for ground and air forces in the past
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia


To: Dr. K. Edwards, Rolatia
It's suprising to us how quickly your army is growing, and we congratulate you on your emerging status as a contender for world power. The assault rifles and pistols will be sent within a month, and we will hold your transfer of payment, and give you the order on lease until you emerge from your economic recession; you can pay us, without interest, when your economy returns to its normal status. Thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Rolatia
04-10-2005, 15:59
To: Dr. J. Edwards, Rolatia
It's suprising to us how quickly your army is growing, and we congratulate you on your emerging status as a contender for world power. The assault rifles and pistols will be sent within a month, and we will hold your transfer of payment, and give you the order on lease until you emerge from your economic recession; you can pay us, without interest, when your economy returns to its normal status. Thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board[/QUOTE]

Greetings,
The money was wired through on December 17th of last year. We had enough from our military budget to pay for the weaponry and so we did. We hope that this mis-understanding has been rectifieed.
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
04-10-2005, 18:20
Greetings,
The money was wired through on December 17th of last year. We had enough from our military budget to pay for the weaponry and so we did. We hope that this mis-understanding has been rectifieed.
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

To: Dr. J. Edwards

In that case the transfer has gone through without problem. We're sorry for the misconception and we promise it won't happen again.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Rolatia
04-10-2005, 19:54
Greetings,
Despite continued economic problems with Rolatia, we can still make minor purchases thanks to some money leftover from the military budget. Due to the small group of young men who wish to join the army, to let them in we are purchasing the following to arm them:
100000x Hali-21 Assault Rifle
100000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol
at a total cost of $340M
We have again wired the money straight through to your account. We thank you for your continued sales, and hope we can continue to use your services for excellent infantry equipment and ground vehicles, and maybe even air 'vehicles'
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
04-10-2005, 23:06
Greetings,
Despite continued economic problems with Rolatia, we can still make minor purchases thanks to some money leftover from the military budget. Due to the small group of young men who wish to join the army, to let them in we are purchasing the following to arm them:
100000x Hali-21 Assault Rifle
100000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol
at a total cost of $340M
We have again wired the money straight through to your account. We thank you for your continued sales, and hope we can continue to use your services for excellent infantry equipment and ground vehicles, and maybe even air 'vehicles'
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

To: Dr. J. Edwards, Rolatia

Thank you for yet another purchase, as of now all your purchases are fifteen percent off. And yes, we have received the money. Your order has been confirmed and the guns and assault rifles will be delivered within three months. Again, thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Starenell
05-10-2005, 01:05
Starenell would like to purchase some more.

100,000 Samson Battlesuits for $5,000,000,000
100,000 Hol-24 Pistols for $40,000,000
20,000 Tagus Anti-Tank for $500,000,000

Total Money Wired: $5,540,000,000
Soviet Trasa
05-10-2005, 01:17
We would like to aquire 850,000 Hali-21 Part-Variant Assault Rifles.

We will wire the required amount of 2,550,000,000 USD upon comfirmation.

Also we would like to know how long the shipment would take if possible.


Thank you for your Time.

Soviet Trasa.
The Macabees
05-10-2005, 01:56
Starenell would like to purchase some more.

100,000 Samson Battlesuits for $5,000,000,000
100,000 Hol-24 Pistols for $40,000,000
20,000 Tagus Anti-Tank for $500,000,000

Total Money Wired: $5,540,000,000

To: Starenell

The order has been confirmed, as always, and as a consequence, the Battlesuits will arrive within two months, while the pistols will arrive next month, and the Tagus within next month as well in the same shipment as the pistols. Thank you for yet another order, and we hope that our weaponry gives you the advantage on the battlefield as we advertise it will do.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


We would like to aquire 850,000 Hali-21 Part-Variant Assault Rifles.

We will wire the required amount of 2,550,000,000 USD upon comfirmation.

Also we would like to know how long the shipment would take if possible.


Thank you for your Time.

Soviet Trasa.


[OOC: Soviet Trasa! I know I RPd with you before, and I know I enjoyed it, but I just don't remember where or when.]

To: Soviet Trasa

Kriegzimmer has not hesitated in confirming your order, and indeed we will promptly set to work on it. The eight hundred and fifty thousand assault rifles will be sent within four months, and will be shipped to your nearest port by an unescorted merchant convoy, of most likely three or four ships. Thank you for your time and your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Soviet Trasa
05-10-2005, 02:03
OOC: Yeah, you and i along with acouple others where involved in a WW, never finished it from my memory, but it was sweet. :D

IC:

Thank you, your speed it greatly appreciated.
The Macabees
05-10-2005, 02:06
[OOC: There's a world war going on right now which you might be interested in; it's been going strong [13,000] posts and very friendly and good roleplayers, so if you're interested TG me!]
Spizania
05-10-2005, 17:09
I need soem info, howmuch payload can a decurion SLBM carry? How many MIRVS?

OOC: I goign to uild a big sub in Brittainny and use it to level Baltimore, New York, Washington and Miami all at once :) with hundreds of ICBMs and Gladuis Cruise missiles :D
Rolatia
05-10-2005, 20:33
Greetings,
Right now our economy is in a recession, but yet again we can still afford arms for any potential new recruits. They may not be recruited until better times, buit in the meantime we can still afford to make sure they will be well-armed when they come into our army. We are therefore purchasing:
200000x Hali-21 Assault Rifle
200000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol
at a cost of $578M (including our new discount)
The money has been wired to your account. We thank you for your continued sales that have helped boost the army of Rolatia exceptionally and granted us much-needed overseas land
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
05-10-2005, 20:50
I need soem info, howmuch payload can a decurion SLBM carry? How many MIRVS?

OOC: I goign to uild a big sub in Brittainny and use it to level Baltimore, New York, Washington and Miami all at once :) with hundreds of ICBMs and Gladuis Cruise missiles :D

[OOC: I wouldn't be able to tell you accurately. Since I'm not a big ICBM person I never wrote up stats to it, but did allude to its existance. I'll give you a full write-up either tomorrow or on friday morning.]


Greetings,
Right now our economy is in a recession, but yet again we can still afford arms for any potential new recruits. They may not be recruited until better times, buit in the meantime we can still afford to make sure they will be well-armed when they come into our army. We are therefore purchasing:
200000x Hali-21 Assault Rifle
200000x Hol-24 9mm Pistol
at a cost of $578M (including our new discount)
The money has been wired to your account. We thank you for your continued sales that have helped boost the army of Rolatia exceptionally and granted us much-needed overseas land
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia


To: Dr. J. Edwards, Rolatia

Welcome once again,

Your new order has been ordered without hesitation, as have all, and so consequently, you can expect both pistols and rifles within two months production time. Furthermore, we're glad that our arms have brought you said success on the battlefield, and indeed, you can be proud, because even us only own one overseas territory [three islands].

Regardless, thanks for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Exodians
06-10-2005, 20:39
Goodday Kriegzimmer, after a small 'delay' we want to place our order for the following:

333130 BDU-64 Battlesuits for a total cost of 16.6565 Billion.
The Production rights for the Paramount ADV for 30 Billion

The 46.6565 Billion dollars will be wired as normal.

We thank you for your coöperation, have a nice day.

Greetings,

NL
The Macabees
06-10-2005, 21:41
Goodday Kriegzimmer, after a small 'delay' we want to place our order for the following:

333130 BDU-64 Battlesuits for a total cost of 16.6565 Billion.
The Production rights for the Paramount ADV for 30 Billion

The 46.6565 Billion dollars will be wired as normal.

We thank you for your coöperation, have a nice day.

Greetings,

NL

[W@W]

To: The Hague, Netherlands

Thank you for returning to Kriegzimmer. Your order has been confirmed, and the entire order of battlesuits will be completed within eight months, while the production rights for the Paramount have been accepted, and they are yours. Again, thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
06-10-2005, 21:53
The Confederacy of Spizania would like to order 1000 Lu-45 Hawks to replace the aging Lu-05s in service with our military, $120 billion wired on confirmation.

OC: Check oyur NS TGs and could you disseminate that info on the Clasp to teh Tech Mods, except silver sky ofcourse, already informed him, i just couldnt deal with a Smug "its impossible" reply from New Empire (Draka South Africa)
Starenell
06-10-2005, 22:19
Starenell would like to purchase some more.

100,000 Samson Battlesuits for $5,000,000,000
100,000 Hol-24 Pistols for $40,000,000
20,000 Tagus Anti-Tank for $500,000,000

Total Money Wired: $5,540,000,000
The Macabees
07-10-2005, 03:09
The Confederacy of Spizania would like to order 1000 Lu-45 Hawks to replace the aging Lu-05s in service with our military, $120 billion wired on confirmation.

OC: Check oyur NS TGs and could you disseminate that info on the Clasp to teh Tech Mods, except silver sky ofcourse, already informed him, i just couldnt deal with a Smug "its impossible" reply from New Empire (Draka South Africa)

[OOC: I got your TG, and I will respond tomorrow morning!]

To: Spizania

Again you honor us with your presence, and we confirm your order without hesitation. The one thousand Hawks will finish production within three months, as most of the production is going to us. Our needs nonwithstanding, you will receive the full order within four months, and they will arrive by guarded convoy to your nearest port city. Thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



Starenell would like to purchase some more.

100,000 Samson Battlesuits for $5,000,000,000
100,000 Hol-24 Pistols for $40,000,000
20,000 Tagus Anti-Tank for $500,000,000

Total Money Wired: $5,540,000,000


To: Starenell

Thank you for yet another order. It has all been confirmed, and you will receive your battlesuits within two months, your pistols within one month and the anti-tank launchers within three months. Again, thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Soviet Trasa
07-10-2005, 03:59
I would like to requisition:

400,000 Hali-37 Assault Rifle's

20,000 Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd's

30,000 SOV-06 Infantry Fighting Vehicle's

3,000 Hyena Tank Destroyer's

50 GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber's

80 Lu-05 Air Superioty Aircraft

and 200 Incinérateur 155mm Rapid Fire Artillery

Total Cost: 460,350,000,000 USD

Wired upon Comfirmation of Order.
The Macabees
07-10-2005, 04:44
I would like to requisition:

400,000 Hali-37 Assault Rifle's

20,000 Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd's

30,000 SOV-06 Infantry Fighting Vehicle's

3,000 Hyena Tank Destroyer's

50 GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber's

80 Lu-05 Air Superioty Aircraft

and 200 Incinérateur 155mm Rapid Fire Artillery

Total Cost: 460,350,000,000 USD

Wired upon Comfirmation of Order.

To: Soviet Trasa

You're newest order, quoted above, has been confirmed without hesitation. However, because of war at home production time will take a bit longer, and thus the eventual date of supply will be later than it would have been before. Nonetheless, the Hali-37s will arrive within six months, while the main battle tanks will arrive within four years, the IFVs within that same time, the tank destroyers within one year, the bombers within the month, the Lu-05s within the month and the rapid fire artillery within two months.

The entire order will arrive on those assigned dates at your nearest port with an unescorted merchant convoy. We guarantee the system's full respectibility and ability on the battlefield, and guarantee you to see your general's and your soldier's faces full of satisfaction.

Thank you for your order,

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Corzia
07-10-2005, 23:13
The Allied Coast Guard Division requires several new port security vessels. We wish to aquire the following:
-50 Azores class Fast Attack Craft
With discount, our total is USD 17 000 000 000
The Macabees
08-10-2005, 01:00
The Allied Coast Guard Division requires several new port security vessels. We wish to aquire the following:
-50 Azores class Fast Attack Craft
With discount, our total is USD 17 000 000 000

To: Corzia

Of course, this order has been confirmed. The fifty Azores class Fast Attack Craft will be completed, launched, and sent to your nearest port city within six months. Thank you for the order, the monetary transfer has been completed.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Juosh
08-10-2005, 06:40
The Government of Juosh [Brazil in W@W] would like to place the following order.

15 Gallicia Attack Helicopters for 420 million USD
1000 Silencer Air-to-Air missiles for 1.1 billion USD
1000 MLAM Air-to-Surface Missiles for 1/3 billion USD

Half of the money will be wired with confirmation, and the other half will be sent after the first shipment has arrived.
The Macabees
08-10-2005, 18:13
The Government of Juosh [Brazil in W@W] would like to place the following order.

15 Gallicia Attack Helicopters for 420 million USD
1000 Silencer Air-to-Air missiles for 1.1 billion USD
1000 MLAM Air-to-Surface Missiles for 1/3 billion USD

Half of the money will be wired with confirmation, and the other half will be sent after the first shipment has arrived.

[W@W]

To: Brasilia, Brazil

Your order has been confirmed and the fifteen Galicias will be delivered within the month, as will the Silencers and the MLAM-2s. Thank you for the order and Kriegzimmer shows it gratitude. The entire order will be sent in one merchant convoy under Dutch colors to Brazil, to avoid shipping losses to TACSA.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
08-10-2005, 18:19
Could you airlift in eqquipment to San Marino aboard Dutch Aricraft?
HailandKill
08-10-2005, 18:34
[OOC: Long time since I actually posted here eh? Well to get to the point I have been cooking up and idea for an assault rifle and wondering if you want to co-design it.]
Pushka
08-10-2005, 18:44
We need 31200 Praetonia V Surface to Air Missile Batteries. This will cost us 93 billion 600 million USD. We also want you to know that we will modify your air missile batteries so they can be assimilated in our VRPB network. We would also like to find out how much the production rights will cost, if you are offering them then we will purchase the production rights instead of 31200 units of the product.

-Union of Communist Republics Military Spending council.
Corzia
08-10-2005, 23:46
The ACA needs new anti-tank missiles for peacekeeping missions in our region. We request:

1 000 000 Tagus Anti-Tank Missiles

With discount our total should be: USD 21 250 000 000.

-Corzia
The Macabees
09-10-2005, 03:29
Could you airlift in eqquipment to San Marino aboard Dutch Aricraft?

[OOC: No, that would be slightly too obvious, since his radar can regulate where those aircraft are taking off from. I'll be able to arm you when my armies reach to around where you are.]


[OOC: Long time since I actually posted here eh? Well to get to the point I have been cooking up and idea for an assault rifle and wondering if you want to co-design it.]


[OOC: Sure, I need to try my hand at line arting an assault rifle too! I just invented a new verb...line arting.]



We need 31200 Praetonia V Surface to Air Missile Batteries. This will cost us 93 billion 600 million USD. We also want you to know that we will modify your air missile batteries so they can be assimilated in our VRPB network. We would also like to find out how much the production rights will cost, if you are offering them then we will purchase the production rights instead of 31200 units of the product.

-Union of Communist Republics Military Spending council.


To: Union of Communist Republics Military Spending Council, Pushka

Indeed, since you have plans to change the system entire [OOC: as I do myself also, and just call it the Praetorian], we will offer you the production rights for the missile at three billion United States Dollars. This price is negotiable if need be.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The ACA needs new anti-tank missiles for peacekeeping missions in our region. We request:

1 000 000 Tagus Anti-Tank Missiles

With discount our total should be: USD 21 250 000 000.

-Corzia


To: Corzia

The order has been confirmed, and the one million missiles should be at your nearest port within two months. The ACA will find it perfect for peacekeeping operations since it is a weapon to be 'feared', although it is primarilly a defensive and offensive weapon. It is to say, it's meant for war, not peacekeeping. Most likely, what it's peacekeeping doesn't have tanks anyways. Regardless, the order shall be sent.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Izistan
09-10-2005, 04:07
To: Kriegzimmer Board.
From: Izistani Armament Acquisition Board, Izistan City.
Subject: Purchases.

Greetings.
We have recently begun to institute a series of equipment upgrades and replacements within our armed forces. Therefore we ask if we could acquire the production rights for the STG-44 anti tank mine and the Corbulo self propelled field gun. These weapons should augment our other equiment nicely.

Sincerely yours,
John Price, Chairman of the Board.
The Macabees
09-10-2005, 05:04
To: Kriegzimmer Board.
From: Izistani Armament Acquisition Board, Izistan City.
Subject: Purchases.

Greetings.
We have recently begun to institute a series of equipment upgrades and replacements within our armed forces. Therefore we ask if we could acquire the production rights for the STG-44 anti tank mine and the Corbulo self propelled field gun. These weapons should augment our other equiment nicely.

Sincerely yours,
John Price, Chairman of the Board.


To: John Price, Chairman of the Izistani Armament Acquisition Board, Izistan

Welcome to Kriegzimmer,

We have received your order for the purchase of production rights for the ATG-44 Shaped Anti-tank Mine, as well as for the Corbulo 155mm Self Propelled Field Gun, and we would be happy to sell them to you. On the matter of price we calculate production rights for the mine to be worth one million mines, since it is likely that your military will be planting over one hundred million of these throughout the mine's history of effectiveness. It is to say, the ATG-44's production rights would rest at three hundred million United States Dollars. The Corbulo's price for the aquisition of production rights would rest at the cost of ten thousand Corbulos, which would be six billion five hundred million United States Dollars.

The combined price for both would be six billion eight hundred million United States Dollars, or 6,800,000,000. This is price is semi-negotiable if need be. However, we base it on what we think is fair for the current times of deployments and mobilization. We hope you share the same feelings, if not, please, speak with us and we can figure something out.

Thank you for your interest within Kriegzimmer armaments.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Izistan
09-10-2005, 05:24
To: Kriegzimmer Board.
From: Izistani Armament Acquisition Board, Izistan City.
Subject: Re: Purchases.

Excellent. We agree with the price, and thus the funds are being wired to Kriegzimmer as we speak. We look forward to future dealings with Kriegzimmer.

Sincerely yours,
John Price, Chairman of the Board.
Spizania
09-10-2005, 13:17
Well then the serene republic of San Marino would like to purchase the production rights to the:-
400mm Coastal Railgun Battery
Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun
Panzer XII Wolverine Light Tank
Hali 21
Hol 24
Tagus Anti-Tank Missile
Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Fighter
MTAAM-3 Silencer Air to Air Missile
MLAM-2 Air to Surface Missile

Until such time that Germany can secure a reliable supply route into San Marinan territory (IS that right?)

Could you move experts to my country by moving them to the netherlands and then to San Marino?
Pushka
09-10-2005, 17:18
money wired

OOC:
also Mac do you have any MLRS platforms? I remember you did but i can't find it now.
Corzia
09-10-2005, 17:41
[ooc: it will turn into more than just peacekeeping, i bet. luck favors the prepared, right?]

IC:

Corzia needs a new destroyer, we have heard you were designing another one, any chance it will be up soon?

-Corzia
The Macabees
09-10-2005, 17:55
[OOC: Spizania, that will be replied to when a border between Germany and San Marino is opened. Pushka, there is but it's extremely short range. I plan on releasing a better one soon, along with a SLBM, destroyer and mobile surface to air missile platform. Corzia, depends on how lazy I am.]
Pushka
09-10-2005, 17:59
OOC: Aight i'll be using TOS-1 for now, but tell me then you finish your stuff i'll buy some for my elit guards armies. Also get on MSN, lets talk about our little nuclear reactor project.
Spizania
09-10-2005, 21:40
W@W: San Marino Air Freight Incorporated would like to purchase:-
1)500 Archimedes Lever Heavy Transport Planes
2)The use of a frieght Terminal at Munich Airport
3)5000 tonnes of various materials suitable for manuacture of advanced weapons,
4) Protection of the Luftwaffe over German and Austrian Airspace
Items 2 and 3 are until there is a border between Germany and San Marino
The Macabees
09-10-2005, 22:01
Well then the serene republic of San Marino would like to purchase the production rights to the:-
400mm Coastal Railgun Battery
Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun
Panzer XII Wolverine Light Tank
Hali 21
Hol 24
Tagus Anti-Tank Missile
Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Fighter
MTAAM-3 Silencer Air to Air Missile
MLAM-2 Air to Surface Missile

Until such time that Germany can secure a reliable supply route into San Marinan territory (IS that right?)

Could you move experts to my country by moving them to the netherlands and then to San Marino?

-----

W@W: San Marino Air Freight Incorporated would like to purchase:-
1)500 Archimedes Lever Heavy Transport Planes
2)The use of a frieght Terminal at Munich Airport
3)5000 tonnes of various materials suitable for manuacture of advanced weapons,
4) Protection of the Luftwaffe over German and Austrian Airspace
Items 2 and 3 are until there is a border between Germany and San Marino


To: Spizania

The entire order has been confirmed, and all ordered units will be delivered the day German soldiers enter San Marino from conquering Northern Italy. All production rights will be sold within one batch for a total of three hundred billion Euros. As for the various materials, as said in the first sentence, they will begin transportation once Italian airspace and ground space have been cleared by the German invasion.

As for the Terminal at Munich, that has been set aside, and is now yours. The Archimedes aircraft will make their way to San Marino when San Marino is either linked to Germany, or Germany is free to use Italian airspace [after pummeling their aerial defenses].

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
09-10-2005, 22:03
We accept and politely suggest you get on wiht pummeling thier defences!

We also request that at that time the advance be held allwoing us to join the war proper
The Macabees
10-10-2005, 03:01
Praetorian II Mobile Surface to Air Missile Launcher

[Image: The image was drawn by myself, and colored by Ato-Sara.]

http://worldwarwiki.modernwarstudies.net/personal_images/praetorianframes.png

The Praetorian II was the response to the growing problems concerning the Praetorian mobile surface to air missile launcher, including the fact that the Praetorian V missiles sometimes jammed within the small tubes, and that regardless of the sold range, the missile didn't have that range, which was likely because the launchers were extremely small, constricting the original size of the missile. Furthermore, there were problems with the fact that the barrels of the Praetorian launcher could simply not stand the head of sustained fire from the missiles, cuasing them to be needing replacements after every two launching sequences. As a consequence, the Praetorian mobile launcher was just too expensive to keep in combat for sustained periods of time. Indeed, the cost of putting these into combat around Aurillac and Mosnoi Bor during the War of Golden Succession was immense, eclipsing the cost of operating the early aerial formations.

The Praetorian II, unlike the original design, is not a self powered vehicle, but instead relies on an Ebro Type 23 truck. The truck has a six hundred horse power engine with a two stick transmission designed to maximize par and minimize horsepower when in the context of acceleration, meaning the truck is designed to tow, not to move quickly. The first stick has five gears, which are directly controlled by the second stick with three groups, giving the truck a total of fifteen gears. The first group maximizes torque [par], while the second group is designed for more acceleration if there is a need, and the third group is for reverse. The steering application is done through hydraulics and the braking is done by wire, although the brake itself is divided into two, allowing the driver to apply the brake one tire, depending on the direction of the turn, consequently the truck can make wider turns.

Before the Praetorian launcher, the box guards the computer application which is the fire and control system, as well as the central nervous system for the Engagement Control Station. The computer also localizes a phased array radar, which works on multiple bandwidths, and is very difficult to jam. Indeed, the PAC-3 system's radar has been deemed one of the most difficult, and considering that the radar on the Praetorian is more advance than that on the PAC-3, it can be deducted that the Praetorian's radar is, indeed, very difficult to jam.

Praetorian II mostly work in packs, with a single command truck commanding up to one hundred batteries over a range of over one hundred kilometers. The command truck includes a Headquarters and Headquarters Battery, which houses and leads the information and coordination central, that controls air traffic locations during an air battle sending information to higher echelons and subordinate groups, Communications relay groups, antenna mast groups, Trailer mounted electric power units, and guided missile transporters.

The fire and control system present on the Praetorian II, dubbed 'Brass', is the new top notch of said systems, developed by General Dynamics (Canada) and expanded upon by the Empire's own engineers. It includes Multi-Role Sensor Suite, Multi-Sensor Integration, Integrated Sensor/TA Suite, Virtual Immersive, Environment (AVTB), Neuroholographic ATD/R, Immersive Visualization. Moreover, the new system has both a low altitude RADAR and LIDAR system which has capabilities of tracking and giving firing solutions for up to twenty different targets at up to four thousand meters for the LIDAR and up to eleven thousand meters for the RADAR (although, of course, a gun doesn't necessarily have the power nor the type of shell to reach that far, and of course, that doesn't mean that the area between you and the enemy tank if full of large rocks that can disrupt your shell and its vector). The LIDAR uses a gaussian transmitter, which is right now the most advanced LIDAR transmitter developed by the United States. Of course, this fire and control system also uses thermal imaging, and of course, infra-red imaging. The Praetorian II's computer also feeds transmissions from grounded, and larger, RADAR arrays, on land, air and sea, giving it wider and more accurate coverage.

The launcher can launch eight Praetorians within a time set of fifteen seconds. It can thus be reloaded within forty-five minutes, depending on the logistical capabilities of the nation using the equipment. To take the heat of multiple launch sequences the launcher is lined internally with a cap of RENE N6, a Nickel based aluminum superalloy which has been tested time and time again to have high heat resistivity and the additional resistance to hydrogen enviroment embrittlement, caused by high heat. The launcher must be maintained after every twenty launch sequences, but doesn't necessarilly have to be replaced.

The Praetorian missile, technically the Praetorian VI, has just reverted to the original name of merely the Praetorian surface to air missile. The missile has been changed to be exactly the same missile as used in fixed batteries in order to improve logistics capabilities of the Praetorian batteries, wether fixed or mobile. The missile uses a fully capable RAMjet, which works at lower altitudes than the SCRAMjet, but still uses a temporary rocket booster. The missile has the capability of hitting Mach 1.2 within ten seconds after launch, and Mach 2 after twenty seconds of launch. It's counter-thrust nozzle vectoring gives it superior manuevaribility. It's said the PAC-3 can out manuever any aircraft and most missiles; imagine the Praetorian.

The Praetorian II mobile launcher is to become the mainstay surface to air missile battery used within the Empire for at least the next thirty years, further improvements nonwithstanding. It's deemed a very large improvement over the past design, the Praetorian MSAM, and one of the best regarding international armaments.

Statistics:
Truck: Ebro Type 23 [Heavy Logistics]
Engine: 600 bhp biodiesel
Maximum Velocity: 60 kph
Range: 405 kilometers
Length: 13.5 meters
Width: 3.7 meters
Angle of Turn: seventy-six degrees [if a full turn would be ninety degrees]
Sensor Systems:
Engagement Control Station
Headquarters and Headquarters Battery
Information and Coordination Central
Communications Relay Groups
Antenna Masts Groups
Trailer Mounted Electric Power Units
Missile Powerplant: Hydrogen enjection/RAMjet/Rocket Engine
Missile Range: 350 kilometers
Missile Length: 5.6 meters
Missile Weight: 376 kilograms
Warhead: 75 kilogram high explosive/CAPMES secondary warhead [disposable metalstorm canister]


Cost: 1.7 Million USD
Corzia
10-10-2005, 04:17
Would it be possible for the Allied States to upgrade our exhisting batteries to fire the new missiles? Or would we have to completly upgrade?
Please respond ASAP

-Corzia

[i could upgrade all of my systems, i just don't want to look up all of the numbers tonight]
The Macabees
10-10-2005, 04:22
Would it be possible for the Allied States to upgrade our exhisting batteries to fire the new missiles? Or would we have to completly upgrade?
Please respond ASAP

-Corzia

[i could upgrade all of my systems, i just don't want to look up all of the numbers tonight]


To: The Allied States of Corzia

It would depend. You would most likely need to scrap your older mobile surface to air missile batteries, including any older versions of the Praetorian, and fully replace them with these. The missile would be totally different, as would the vechicle used, so consequently, 'upgrading' an older version wouldn't be totally possible.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Corzia
10-10-2005, 16:00
We assumed as much. We would like to order 12500 new MRLS systems to replace our old ones.

Our total should be: USD 1 806 250 000

-Corzia
The Macabees
10-10-2005, 16:14
We assumed as much. We would like to order 12500 new MRLS systems to replace our old ones.

Our total should be: USD 1 806 250 000

-Corzia

[OOC: That's not my new MRLS system, that's the new mobile SAM battery.]
Corzia
11-10-2005, 03:31
[well, i look like an idiot, don't i? well then, can we just pretend i said the right thing?]
DrachRyu
11-10-2005, 04:31
To: Kriegzimmer Board
Fr: The High Lord and Master of the Armed Republic of DrachRyu, Linden Rathan
Re: Weapons order

The Defense Ministry of the Armed Republic of DrachRyu would hereby like to place the following order:

2X Carrier Battlegroup Packages
1X Armour Division Package
2X Mechanized Infantry Division Package

The total for this purchase comes out to 44.131 Billion dollars, money will be wired upon confirmation.

The High Lord and Master looks forward to more dealings with you

OOC: Do you have an AF package? Watching Foamy has degraded my mind tonight, and I didn't see it...
The Macabees
11-10-2005, 05:27
[well, i look like an idiot, don't i? well then, can we just pretend i said the right thing?]


To: The Allied States of Corzia

The order for twelve thousand five hundred Praetorian II mobile surface to air missile batteries has been confirmed without any hesitation. Because most production is going to our military, as we are in the midst of a war, the entire order will be completed and delivered within twelve months, shipped to your nearest port city. Thank you for yet another order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


To: Kriegzimmer Board
Fr: The High Lord and Master of the Armed Republic of DrachRyu, Linden Rathan
Re: Weapons order

The Defense Ministry of the Armed Republic of DrachRyu would hereby like to place the following order:

2X Carrier Battlegroup Packages
1X Armour Division Package
2X Mechanized Infantry Division Package

The total for this purchase comes out to 44.131 Billion dollars, money will be wired upon confirmation.

The High Lord and Master looks forward to more dealings with you

OOC: Do you have an AF package? Watching Foamy has degraded my mind tonight, and I didn't see it...


To: High Lord Linden Rathan, DrachRyu

The entire order has been confirmed, and the two carrier battle group packages will be delivered within four years, while the single armored divisio package will arrive within three months and the two mechanized division packages will arrive within six months. We look foward to business with the High Lord, his majesty, in the future. Thank you for this order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: The AF package I don't have...but I'll add it... air force right?]
DrachRyu
11-10-2005, 05:38
His Majesty thanks you for the wonderful additions to his armed forces. The money is being wired as we speak

OOC: Yep, Air Force :)
Corzia
11-10-2005, 15:45
Great. We have fired the dolt who typed MRLS; we will make sure it doesn't happen again.
Rolatia
11-10-2005, 20:30
Greetings,
After an economic boom, we find ourselves in an extremely favourable situatioin terms of military budget. We definitely need aerial bombardent firepower, more mobile 'heavy' weapons, weapons for logistics staff, and above all the foundings of a navy . We are therefore maiking a large purchase, which is (including 15% discount):
18x GLI-34 Albatross Long Range Stealth Bomber @ 38.25B
5000x Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun @ 2.7625B
2500x Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd Main Battle Tank @ 17B
2x Carrier Battle Group Package @ 27.965B
1000000x Hol-24 Sidearm Pistols @ 340M
100x Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Fighter @ 10.2B
1000000x Hali-21 Assault Rifle @ 2.55B
at a total cost of $99.0675B
The money has been as usual wired through to your account. We thank you for your co-operation, and hope for top quality as usual in our biggest ever order from Kriegzimmer. The equipment should hopefully be very vital in the upcoming conquest of Britain
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
Rolatia
12-10-2005, 19:39
Greetings,
Despite still waiting for our last order to be filled and with a less powerful economy, we can still afford more military items. Therefore, we are purchasing:
250x Lu-12 Canary Tactical Strike Fighter @ 19.125B
We thank you for your co-operation
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
(OOC: Get online, my entire Earth VII invasion of Britain is depending on these two orders!)
The Macabees
12-10-2005, 21:26
To: Dr. J. Edwards, Rolatia

We're glad to hear of your current economic status and how it was made available for your military the chance to boots its ordnance numbers and size, and how that directly affected Kriegzimmer's sales. Therefore, without hesitation, we have confirmed both of your orders, and we apologize for the time it took to confirm the orders.

Regardless, the two hundred Lu-12 Canaries will arrive within the month, while the eigteen GLI-34s will arrive along with them, as will the Lu-45 Hawks. The Hali-21s and Hol-24s will arrive within three months, and the Corbulos and Panzer XIs will arrie within seven months, while the two carrier battle groups will arrive within five to six years.

Again, thank you for your newest order. Our weapons are guaranteed in excellence.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
12-10-2005, 23:10
The serene republic of San Marino would like Kriegzimmer to design a new MBT for them, inorder to furfill the majority of armoured fighting against heavy enemy vehicles, (teh Hydra will be used to spearhead assaults, i'd like to see the a tank-trap that could stop one :D). There are several constraints however, we require the main gun to be a 126mm HV ETC (EMR would be nice but not neccesary) and would prefer machine guns and Chainguns to be of the 12.7mm Calibre. It should be designated the "Scythe I"
OOC: Im not going to build them yet, im just filling up the spaces in my tech thread.
The Macabees
13-10-2005, 15:10
[W@W]

To: San Marino

The armor will be designed as a variant of our upcoming main battle tank project. The variant will include all the specifics, including the 126mm ETC gun as opposed to our 122mm ETC gun.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Pushka
13-10-2005, 20:26
We would like to purchase production rights for the SOV-6 IFV,
Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun and 155mm Incinérateur Rapid Firing Artillery Gun this decision is based on the fact that we will make minor changes to the models before using them for our purposes.

-Union of Communist Republics Military Spending Council

OOC:One of the changes include changing the electronics package and assimilating them into VRPB network, changing the arnament on SOV-6 and so on. Also a question, the conastal rail guns, can they be somehow changed so i can put them on railroad cars and fire them from there? Also i can't find the specs for M-97 MLRS which you mention in your M-2000 write up, can i see those?
The Macabees
14-10-2005, 04:03
We would like to purchase production rights for the SOV-6 IFV,
Corbulo Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun and 155mm Incinérateur Rapid Firing Artillery Gun this decision is based on the fact that we will make minor changes to the models before using them for our purposes.

-Union of Communist Republics Military Spending Council

OOC:One of the changes include changing the electronics package and assimilating them into VRPB network, changing the arnament on SOV-6 and so on. Also a question, the conastal rail guns, can they be somehow changed so i can put them on railroad cars and fire them from there? Also i can't find the specs for M-97 MLRS which you mention in your M-2000 write up, can i see those?

To: Union of Communist Republics Military Spending Council, Pushka

The production rights for all three of those models are gathered to be at around two hundred billion United States Dollars, although this price is negotiable. If the deal is struck, the plans will not be wired, but will instead be transmitted to you by hand, and shipped by government purchased merchant marine ships. Due to the recent spark of war outside the War of Golden Succession, this time with Guffingfordi belligerence against ViZion, the latter's subsequent launching of a reconnaissance flight, and our consequent downing of that flight, we feel it necessary to take extra precautions to make sure our technology is not snatched by the wrong hands, although in truth Kriegzimmer has no policy when selling with enemies of the Empire. Regardless, we prefer our technology not to be stolen through electronic means.

Nonetheless, thank you for your continued interested with Kriegzimmer products, and all production units will be made sure to have interchangable fire and control systems for your own systems to be planted in their stead.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: The M-97 was to be the long range MRLS system, although that was put on the shelf, along with almost everything else I envisioned. Indeed, last Friday I was supposed to have that fusion thread up, a destroyer, the new MRLS system, and much much more, but I was too busy. Tomorrow I should have some things up, but probably not the MRLS system.]
The Exodians
14-10-2005, 17:02
[OOC:@Spizania&The Macabees(San Marino&Germany), there are no commercial airlines, nor any other kind of planes, going to San Marino (nor Germany for that matter) from the Netherlands. For safety reasons, we don't fly to countries at war.(perhaps I should include that somewhere.):OOC]

To: Kriegzimmer

For the purpose of looking impressive, and scaring smaller countries away, the Dutch Government wants to order a single Zealous Dreadnought Package(with aircraft) for the full 200 Billion, which will be paid by the usual method. Furthermore, it wants to know the availability of several blueprints, namely those of:
-The Pepperbox
-The Naram-Sin
-The Gli-34
-The Lu-25
-The Zealous Dreadnought
-The 400mm Coastal Railguns

Thanks in advance,

NL
Pushka
14-10-2005, 20:13
To: Union of Communist Republics Military Spending Council, Pushka

The production rights for all three of those models are gathered to be at around two hundred billion United States Dollars, although this price is negotiable. If the deal is struck, the plans will not be wired, but will instead be transmitted to you by hand, and shipped by government purchased merchant marine ships. Due to the recent spark of war outside the War of Golden Succession, this time with Guffingfordi belligerence against ViZion, the latter's subsequent launching of a reconnaissance flight, and our consequent downing of that flight, we feel it necessary to take extra precautions to make sure our technology is not snatched by the wrong hands, although in truth Kriegzimmer has no policy when selling with enemies of the Empire. Regardless, we prefer our technology not to be stolen through electronic means.

Nonetheless, thank you for your continued interested with Kriegzimmer products, and all production units will be made sure to have interchangable fire and control systems for your own systems to be planted in their stead.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: The M-97 was to be the long range MRLS system, although that was put on the shelf, along with almost everything else I envisioned. Indeed, last Friday I was supposed to have that fusion thread up, a destroyer, the new MRLS system, and much much more, but I was too busy. Tomorrow I should have some things up, but probably not the MRLS system.]

We feel there is no need for negotiation, it is a deal. Two hundred million will be wired to you just as soon as your plans arrive and we can complete a direct transaction.

-Union of Communist Republics Military Spending Council


OOC: Okay man, what about the rail guns? Can i somehow be able to put them on a train cart and use the electricity from the train rails to power it up?
The Macabees
15-10-2005, 01:57
To: Kriegzimmer

For the purpose of looking impressive, and scaring smaller countries away, the Dutch Government wants to order a single Zealous Dreadnought Package(with aircraft) for the full 200 Billion, which will be paid by the usual method. Furthermore, it wants to know the availability of several blueprints, namely those of:
-The Pepperbox
-The Naram-Sin
-The Gli-34
-The Lu-25
-The Zealous Dreadnought
-The 400mm Coastal Railguns

Thanks in advance,

NL

[W@W]

To: The Netherlands

The Zealous package has been confirmed, and it will be completed within twenty-four months, while the rest of the order has been confirmed for a total of two hundred billion USD. If this is fine the plans shall be wired immediately.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


OOC: Okay man, what about the rail guns? Can i somehow be able to put them on a train cart and use the electricity from the train rails to power it up?


[OOC: You could probably do it, but the train would have to weigh a lot to take the recoil of a rail gun; depending on the calibre of the gun actually.]
Pushka
15-10-2005, 02:00
OOC: Well during WW2 train carts held very big, big guns. What i am asking is do you think its feasible?
The Macabees
15-10-2005, 02:03
OOC: Well during WW2 train carts held very big, big guns. What i am asking is do you think its feasible?


[OOC: Yea, but those were bored conventional guns, although they were pretty huge; I've heard of up to 500mm. Regardless, the idea of putting a rail gun is strange, and it creates more recoil than a conventional gun. Nonetheless, I think that if you have a heavy train, you could most likely do it.]
Space Union
15-10-2005, 02:05
Hey, Mac we'll finally see a match up between the F-79 Archangel and the Lu-45 Hawk in W@W. It will be interesting. Be sure to field your domestic verson (F-79B) like me. ;)
Pheanix
15-10-2005, 17:30
United Kingdom W@W

In a recent reorganization our leaders found our military hardware to be rather lacking in some areas. They have suggested your technology as up to date and reliant enough to consider buying and using in our forces. The following needs to be delivered ASAP:

2 Zealous Super Dreadnought with airborne compliment $400 Billion
500,000 BDU-64 Samson Battle Suit $25 Billion

Plus we wish to acquire the blueprints for the following:
Lu-45 Hawk Air Superiority Fighter
Lu-25 Black Mariah
Indestructible Aircraft Carrier
BDU-64 Samson Battle Suit

All the money shall be wired upon confirmation. Good Day.

Sign,
James Hawk, Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Macabees
15-10-2005, 18:49
[W@W]

To: The United Kingdom

We're glad that the new British government has continued the policies of friendliness towards Germany, and as a measure of good will the Emperor has allowed Kriegzimmer to export her armaments to the United Kingdom. As a result, the two Zealous' will be sent to Scapa Flow within forty-eight months per ship, and the Samsons within six months.

As for the production rights; we will offer then for all items listed for one hundred and fifty billion USD [150 billion]. We hope that the United Kingdom sees this price as fit.

Again, thank you for your purchases from Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Exodians
15-10-2005, 19:36
[W@W]
*snip*
To: The Netherlands

The Zealous package has been confirmed, and it will be completed within twenty-four months, while the rest of the order has been confirmed for a total of two hundred billion USD. If this is fine the plans shall be wired immediately.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
*snip*

OOC:I'm out of fantasy for today, consider it agreed.:OOC
Pushka
15-10-2005, 21:01
Hey, Mac we'll finally see a match up between the F-79 Archangel and the Lu-45 Hawk in W@W. It will be interesting. Be sure to field your domestic verson (F-79B) like me. ;)

OOC: Is there a war between you guys?
Pheanix
16-10-2005, 18:38
W@W

Your technologies are some of the best in the world right now, so its logical and wise to continue using yoru services. Your prices has been deemed reasonable and the money shall be wired inmediatly. Thank you and good day.

Sign,
James Hawk, Minister if Foreign Affairs
The Macabees
18-10-2005, 00:56
OOC: Is there a war between you guys?

[OOC: There was going to be on W@W, until he was attacked by Finland and the Soviet Union, although it was mostly because they're aligned with myself.]
Spizania
18-10-2005, 17:00
W@W:-
San Marino requests that construction of the following commence

1 Zealous SuperDreadnaught with aircraft $200bn
4 Indestructable Class Carriers $28bn
8 Model Class Carriers $12bn
2 Argentine Class Galleons $260bn
4 Elusive Class Battleships $20bn
12 Rommel Class Battleships $19.2bn
32 Seydlitz Class Cruisers $24bn
20 D647 "Morsky-Orol" Light Cruiser $30bn
48 Paramount ADVs $33.6bn
54 Manstein Class Destroyers $32.4bn
96 Azores Class Fast Attack Craft $38.4bn
50 Pepperbox LDVs $10bn
4 Maiden Class Subersible Carriers $24bn
20 Cartagena SSNs
1000 Lu-45s $120bn (Yes i know i have production rights, bu ti have no production capacity)
300 Lu-12s 27bn
48 Lu-25s $3.48bn

Total $916.88bn

$300bn will be wired on confirmation
$300bn when German/CoG units open supply lines to San Marino
$316.88bn when training is finished and the fleet puts to sea for the first time

OOC:
How heavy is an Lu-45?
Dont worry his fighter pilots will learn to fear the hawk soon enough :)
Also your argentine page needs updating, my NS nation has one too.
The Macabees
19-10-2005, 01:17
[OOC: I'm not sure of the specific weight of a Lu-45. I would suspect it's roughly equivalent to that of the F-22, because even though the airframe might be lighter, it still has a lot of systems on it, which increases specific mass.]

[W@W]

To: San Marino

The entire order has been confirmed, and every single ordered item, plus past items, will be delivered when a route to San Marino has been confirmed. Do not fret, a route to San Marino will be carved open soon enough [OOC: I'm landing troops in the south, and in the Adriatic Sea]. Germany is on her way!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
The Macabees
20-10-2005, 17:59
Zanziik's Ground Army

The original size of the Zanziik ground army was put down as a ten million personnel body, with a general logistical ratio of 7:1, following the Empire's own army and prerequisites. Consequently, the Zanziik ground front line personnel was put at 1.4 million, while the rest would be exclusively logisitcal, including engineers, mechanics, cooks, et cetera. The biggest problem with the design was deciding how much of the frontline personnel would go to each subdivision, including artillery, armor and pure mechanized infantry. In the end, it was decided that the best course to take was to create a military in which it would have a small, yet effective, personnel number.

The final agreed number to the size of the mechanized infantry division was seven thousand frontline personnel, with a total of five divisions were corp, giving each corp thirty-five thousand frontline personnel. With this, the Zanziiki army would be able to field a total of twenty-eight corps, giving a total of 980,000 frontline personnel. The division make-up for the mechanized infantry division is as follows:


5000 Infantry
100 SOV-06 IFVs [crew: 300]
150 Pzkfw. Wolverine Light Tanks [crew: 600]
75 Corbulo SP Field Artillery [crew: 150]
75 Hyena Anti-Tank Vehicles [crew: 300]
650 Reconaissance Mechanization


That leaves a further 400,000 personnel for use elsewhere, including a total of ten armored corp. The armored division is as follows:


200 Pzkfw. XI BredtSvert MBTs [crew: 800]
50 Pzkfw, XII Wolverine Light Tanks [crew: 200]
100 KriGud 155mm SP Howitzers [crew: 400]
50 Hyena Tank-Destroyers [crew: 200]


This would give a total frontline personnel number of 1,600. If there were three divisions were corp, that would mean a total of 4,800 men per corp, and with ten corps, a total of 48,000 men.

The artillery division would be composed of the following:


300 Corbulo SP Field Guns [crew: 600]
100 155mm Fixed Field Guns [crew: 300]
100 155mm Anti-air Artillery Guns [crew: 300]
3000 Security Infantry


This would give a total personnel number of 4,200. If you were to have a total of thirty artillery divisions that would give a total of 126,000 personnel, raising the total number so far to 1,154,000 frontline personnel. The next thing to do would be to form reconnaissance groups, and that's what their official name is going to be, since they aren't divisions per se. Each reconnaissance group would have the following:


100 Armored Wheeled Scout Cars [Crew: 200]
2,000 Infantry


There must be a proportional number of recon groups to frontline divisions, and currently there are a total of 140 divisions, it would be wise to field 14 reconnaissance groups, giving a total of 30,800 personnel, raising the figure of total frontline personnel to 1,184,800 personnel.

The remainder of the men can be put on reserve duty, and be organized when necessary, or organized into divisions I might have skipped. For example, with so much personnel, there's also a need for the Praetorian II mobile SAM, and consequently, Zanziik's new ground forces include 400 batteries, for a total of 800 frontline personnel.

Final Price Tag: 700 billion
Paeris
20-10-2005, 18:34
OOC: Thanks to Jolt's updates, I can't log in as Zanziik, and am stuck as my puppet. :(

IC:

The Maesters of Zanziik would like to thank the wonderful people of Kriegzimmer for an amazing job done well. Although the price of the package is listed at $700 billion, we feel it fit to reward you for such a job well done. We will pay $1 trillion for the package, and we do so with the happiest of attitudes. Thank you very much.

Wired on confirmation,
[signed]
Grand Maester Miko
Maester of Armaments, Kivari Khan
Maester of War, Rujiri Oko
The Macabees
21-10-2005, 21:26
P.746.X Praetorian Surface to Air Missile and Variants
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P.746.A et P.746.B Surface to Air Missile
The P.746.A is a replacement to the Praetorian V which has seen a long life within the Empire's ground forces and naval forces. However, the armed forces dediced to pay for the release of a newer, cheaper, and more effecient surface to air missile, just known as the Praetorian. The administration also required five seperate variants, the P.746.A through the P.746.E. The project was finally granted to Golden Luftwaffe Industries (GLI) for a total of sixty billion USD, and throughout a period of two years, Dr. Ricardo Schumer and Dr. Karl Vectar, with their teams, have worked on the design, finally releasing it after a series of testing and such. The missile's certain differences from the obsolete Praetorian V include a more effecient two-state engine for the P.746.A, while the P.746.B uses a single stage engine for low altitude duties. Both missiles are also transonic.

Designation: P.746. A et P.746.B
Length: 6.3 Meters
Base Diameter: .8 Meters
Warhead: 70kg HE; enCAPsulated MetalStorm [CAPMES]
Propulsion [V. A]: Two-stage; solid rocket and ramjet
Propulsion [V. B]: Singe-stage; solid rocket
Maximum Range [V. A]: 550 kilometers
Maximum Range [V. B]: 130 kilometers
Maximum Altitude [V. A]: 27,000 meters
Maximum Altitude [V. B]:[color] 11,000 meters
[color=red]Maximum Velocity: Mach 3.7
Body:
Core of Phenolic Resin-Impregnated Aramid Paper Honeycomb Core Material
Inner Layer of Thymonel 8
Fins: 4 Delta Shaped Fins
Sensors and Electronics:
M3667 Arbit Computer Chip
Multi-band millimetric RADAR
Gyro RADAR Array
IR LIDAR Array
Inertial
Anti-Collision Sensor System

P.746.C et P.746.D Surface to Air Missile
The P.746.C variant is an anti-sattelite missile (ASAT), while the P.746.D is the newer ASAT design, the SLASAT, which is a submarine launched anti-sattelite missile. The principle difference between the P.746.C and the P.746.A is that the P.746.C has a body which cuts off in the middle, more or less, then constricts to allow for the different two-stage engine. This two-stage engine is comprised of a solid rocket fuel engine and a second-stage of a Versola motor. The P.746.C and P.746.D are officially supplements to the GPALS project, which has been the mainstay of the Empire's ABM system.

The P.746.D is exactly the same as the P.746.C, but on the outside looks much larger since it is encased within a sabot type design. The idea is that it needed to fit the Cartagena's and Cadiz' VLS tubes, consequently, the missile had to be made larger. To avoid the costs of completely redesigning the missile's body, the P.746.D used the encasement, which after launching and breakthing through the water, would tear apart, revealing the P.746.C. Recent testing has proved the missile to be dearly effective.

Designation: P.746. C et P.746.D
Length: 5.4 Meters
Base Diameter: .5 Meters
Warhead: 70kg HE hit-to-kill; enCAPsulated MetalStorm [CAPMES]
Propulsion [V. C]: Two-stage; solid rocket fuel engine and Versola motor
Propulsion [V. D]: Triple-stage; solid rocket fuel, the encasement breaks, solid rocket fuel, Versosal motor
Maximum Altitude : 730 Kilometers
Maximum Velocity: 24,000 Km/h
Body:
Core of Phenolic Resin-Impregnated Aramid Paper Honeycomb Core Material
Inner Layer of Thymonel 8
Fins: 4 Delta Shaped Fins
Sensors and Electronics:
M3667 Arbit Computer Chip
Multi-band millimetric RADAR
Gyro RADAR Array
IR LIDAR Array
Teal-blue array
Inertial


P.746.E HIBOLAAS
The P.746.E is a HIgh-G BOost Low Altitude Anti-Sattelite Missile (HIBOLAAS), designed to look much like the HIBEX missile. The P.746.E is designed to intercept inter-continental ballistic missiles at low altitudes, or in other words, as a last ditch attempt to stop an ICBM. With the successful testings of the HIBEX, it was decided to design one for the Empire itself, leading to this, and recent testing have underscored the chances for success. Nonetheless, again, the HIBOLAAS is always to be considered a final ditch defensive attempt, and is part of the multi-prong ABM system used by the Empire.

Designation: P.746. D
Length: 5.2 Meters
Base Diameter: .8 Meters
Warhead: 70kg HE; enCAPsulated MetalStorm [CAPMES]
Propulsion: Single-stage high thrust solid rocket fuel engine
Maximum Altitude : 7000 Meters
Maximum Velocity: 3 Km/s
Maximum Turn: 400G
Body:
Core of Phenolic Resin-Impregnated Aramid Paper Honeycomb Core Material
Inner Layer of Thymonel 8
Sensors and Electronics:
M3667 Arbit Computer Chip
Multi-band millimetric RADAR
Gyro RADAR Array
IR LIDAR Array
Inertial


P.746.F Ultra Long Range Surface to Air Missile
The P.746.F was released a couple of months after the P.746.A and B, offering a newer, longer ranged, missile for high altitude and quick response launches. The airframe and especially the engine of the missile is constructed out of a lightweight titanium-aluminum alloy, atomised for quick cooling so that the alloy would exhibit amorphous physical features, as opposed to crystalline, making it lighter and stronger. The engine uses a ducted ramjet engine, with a expendable rocket booster, giving it higher velocities and longer ranges. That said, most of the length of the missile is specialized towards fuel. The P.746.F is nominally launched out of fixed sites, while the launchers of the Praetorian II were lengthened to allow launch of the P.746.A. The P.746.B has remained a naval variant.

Designation: P.746.F
Length: 6.9 Meters
Base Diameter: .8 Meters
Warhead: 70kg HE; enCAPsulated MetalStorm [CAPMES]
Propulsion: Ducted RAMjet
Maximum Range: 850 kilometers
Maximum Altitude: 37,000 meters
Maximum Velocity: Mach 4.7
Body:
Atomized TiAl
Fins: 4 Delta Shaped Fins
Sensors and Electronics:
M3667 Arbit Computer Chip
Multi-band millimetric RADAR
Gyro RADAR Array
IR LIDAR Array
Inertial
Anti-Collision Sensor System

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Production Rights for All Variants: 30 Billion USD
Halberdgardia
22-10-2005, 04:58
To: The Kriegzimmer Board
From: General Frederick Strickland, Chief of Staff of the Army, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: Purchase

As we recently made a substantial order of Kriegzimmer's Praetorian II MSAMLs, we felt it expedient to arm these superior weapons with the missiles best suited to the job. To augment the lethality of the Praetorian IIs, we wish to purchase production rights to all variants of the P.746.X Praetorian SAM. $20 million will be wired upon confirmation.

Respectfully,
General Frederick Strickland
Chief of Staff of the Army
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Pushka
22-10-2005, 14:26
We would like to purchace production rights for all 3 variants of the new Praetorian missile. Money will be wired upon confirmation.

-Union of Communist Republics Ministry of Military Spending
Spizania
22-10-2005, 14:34
(OOC: I want production rights for both NS and W@W)

We wisjh to purchase teh production rights to the New praetorians, money will be wired on confirmation,
The Macabees
22-10-2005, 17:47
[OOC: Ah, greatest apologies, but there was a cost fluke. The price should be twenty billion, not twenty million. I'll make this clear ICly as well.]

To: General Frederick Strickland, Chief of Staff of the Army, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

We're glad that you found the Praetorian IIs to be all that you hoped for, and we're even happier that you wish to contract the P.746.X series for your military. However, and this is quite embarrasing, the cost should be twenty billion, not twenty million. Evidently, the man who printed out the catalogue typed it in incorrectly, and consequently, we sit with you order with the incorrect price. If you are still interested we will gladly confirm the production rights and send you them right away. If not, we understand completely.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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To: Union of Communist Republics Ministry of Military Spending

Although the order is confirmed, we wish to warn you that the price set in the catalogue was incorrect, and now has been corrected. The actual price is twenty billion. Again, sorry for the misinterpretation, we hope that you are still interested.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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To: Spizania

As we've said to all others interested, the cost is twenty billion not twenty million. Hopefully, you retain any interest for the missile - nonetheless, we apologize for the mix-up and promise it will not happen again.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

[OOC: Yes, the prod. rights would be good for both W@W and NS.]
Halberdgardia
22-10-2005, 18:01
[OOC: IIRC, there was a pricing snafu on production rights for something else I bought here recently as well...:p]

To: The Kriegzimmer Board
From: General Frederick Strickland, Chief of Staff of the Army, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: Purchase

The price change is of little consequence, as we are still highly interested in acquiring production rights to the SAMs. $20 billion has been wired. We thank you for your time, and look forward to more superior products from Kriegzimmer.

Respectfully,
General Frederick Strickland
Chief of Staff of the Army
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Pushka
22-10-2005, 18:12
money wired
Spizania
22-10-2005, 19:23
Regardless the money is wired
McKagan
22-10-2005, 19:43
Hello again,

IMAF is once again looking to upgrade our bomber force.

We not only wish to add an aditional 200 planes to our force, but are looking to replace 5 lost in the struggle against fascism in Frozopia.

It comes to 205 new GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber's.

That pricetag comes to 451 billion USD.

Fortunatly for you, that is not all.

The new bomber forces mean that our Fighter Squadrons would be overworked.

We would like to purchase an additional 1000 Lu-45 Hawks for 120 billion USD.
McKagan
22-10-2005, 20:52
IMAF has, for some time now, been under fire by outside groups to cut back on the number of civilians we kill. We have finally came to the conclusion that it is impossible to rage a Hearts and Minds style conflict while hundreds of thousands of enemy civilians are being killed under rivers of napalm.

Because of the current scale of the mass revalations taking place in the IMAF Command Structure, we feel it imperative that we purchase 200 Naram-Sin Long Term bombers WITHOUT the ideal missile loadout.

Price: 70 billion USD
Intelligent Neighbors
22-10-2005, 21:49
//OOC: Hey Maca, love the storefront, it's actually got original stuff, so I'll buy something. Rated 5/5//

The Armed Forces of the Military Junta of Intelligent Neighbors would like to aquire the production rights for the P.746.A et P.746.B missiles, and as such we are ready to transfer the amount of $20 billion to a bank account of your choosing. After seeing the effectiveness of these missiles in shooting down ViZion aircraft recently, we have decided to take a rare step and purchase a non-indigenous design. We hope that we will be as satisfied as your other customers, and return for further purchases.

Signed,
INAF

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The Macabees
23-10-2005, 01:41
To: ISAF, McKagan

We're glad to hear that you wish to return for more GLI-34s, as well as to replace those unfortunately lost in your war against Frozopia. The five replacements and the two hundred new bombers have been confirmed, and all two hundred and five will be fabricated and sent to you by means of massive merchant convoys within three months. The one thousand Hawks have also been confirmed and will be transported in batches of two hundred every single month.

As per your second order, that has also been confirmed, although will most unfortunately take a full eight months since it's not a frequently requested design, so consequently, fabrication takes a bit longer. Nonetheless, we think it's quite worth the time for production.

We wish to thank you for your return, and we will always guarantee personal excellence.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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[OOC: Thanks for the props!

To: INAF

The production rights have been confirmed, and these will be sent through classified shipping to your ports. Of course, some sort of arrangement with your military will be struck where the plans can be effectively delivered, but we should allow that for the intillenge services of both our nations. But, we must give you all P.746.X variants for the sake of morality, since you are paying for all five variants. Of course, you don't need to produce them, but since you paid the full price we feel the necessity to pive you variants A through E.

Thank you for your words of confidence, and just how they shot down ViZionary aircraft, we have the feeling they'll serve your own armed forces just as perfectly. Indeed, they were designed to excel. Thank you again, and welcome to Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
23-10-2005, 02:31
[New Purchase]

The McKagan Imperial Defense Force (MIDF) has for a long while been looking to field a large number of weapons suitable to fire into space. We also like submarines. Firing things INTO space FROM submarines is a revalation on us, and because of it, we are looking to purchase the production rights for your new missile set for 20 billion USD. Things that we can hide on tops of mountains that shoot at airplanes are cool, too...
Truitt
23-10-2005, 02:31
The Jewittist Republic is in grave need of a powerful anti-air missile system due to the lack of our Nationalist-line being able to compete with today's world. I wish to permit the purchase of the entire Praetorian II line. Missiles and launchers, thanks.

20,000,000,000 USD will be wired at confirmation.

-Douvier Daniel Tanner
The Macabees
23-10-2005, 08:07
To: ISAF, McKagan

Indeed, the SLASAT is a revolutionary feature, although we cannot claim the idea for ourselves, since it was originally proposed by Omz, nonetheless, the designation of the SLASAT is our own, and we are the first to release a SLASAT, since Omz has not yet released it within his own aerial catalogue. Regardless of whichever facts, the entire P.746.X series has been confirmed for production rights for twenty billion. We know that you will find them to be exactly what you wanted, as that is what we pride ourselves in.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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To: Douvier Daniel Tanner, Truitt

Indeed, the Praetorian II is a powerful surface to air mobile launcher using the P.746.B variant of the Praetorian series. The entire package of production rights, meaning the Praetorian II vehicle and the P.746.B have been confirmed for twenty billion, and consequently, your military will soon be receiving said plans. Thank you for the purchase, and we wish to acknowledge again our interest in the joint main battle tank project are two scientific communities are engaging in. We have the feeling that we will be rolling out a very effecient tank soon enough.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Pushka
23-10-2005, 17:54
We would like to purchase production rights for the following:

GLI-34 Albatross Long Range Stealth Bomber

Naram-Sin Strategical Long Term Bomber

We want to inform you that we will make some changes to the design to assimilate it in our VRPB network.

-Union of Communist Republics Council on Military Spending

OOC: Oh Praetorian II i already have right? I mean we did agree that then i purchased production rights for Praetorian i actually did that for Praetorian II, just making sure.
The Macabees
23-10-2005, 18:24
[OOC: Yes, I believe we did agree to that. The Praetorian II is the mobile launcher which uses the P.746.B variant of the Praetorian missile. But you do have prod. rights to the launcher and the variant, and now that you purchased the other prod. rights, you have it to everything that deals with the new SAMs.]

To: Union of Communist Republics Council on Military Spending

The production rights to the Naram-Sin and GLI-34 have been confirmed for eighty billion USD [taking the price from the 30 bill. for the B-2, and since both of these are more advance designs, thus the price increase]. We hope that this price is suitable, and we take in mind the necessary changes that will be done to the aircraft to link it with your VRPB network.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Pushka
23-10-2005, 18:26
The sufficient funds have been allocated to your bank accounts. It is a pleasure doing business with you.

-Union of Communist Republics Council on Military Spending
The Exodians
23-10-2005, 19:28
To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: The Hague; Peace-time HQ

For optimal usage of the Praetorian batteries, The Netherlands wish to purchase the production rights for the matching ammunition at the cost of 20 Billion Dollars.

Also, for the development of a new step in static defence (how ironic) we wish to purchase the production rights of the launcher aswell.

Signed,

NL
Spizania
23-10-2005, 20:36
The Republic of San Marino would like to order some specialist ammunition, we are astounded by the effectiveness of the Disintegrating MetalStorm rounds used on your 70mm Anti Air Artillery Pieces, we wish to order DMS rounds of 10" calibre, we would like to place a standing order for 15000 rounds a week to be delivered to the San Marinese Strategic Missile Command base in Lithuania.

OOC: Those ships i ordered, to they come with the Praetorian V and VI or ahve they been refitted to fire the new missiles?
Pushka
23-10-2005, 20:59
We would like to order production rights for following units:
Cartagena SSN
Cadiz class SSBN
Tenerife class SSH

We are ready to allocate the sufficient funds as soon as our order is confirmed.

-Union of Communist Republics Council on Military Spendin


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We would like to purchase the following units in the specified amounts:

Azores class Fast Attack CraftCartagena SSN # 150
Valencia class SSK # 20

Cost: 61 billion, 500 million USD

Funds to be allocated upon confirmation of the order.

-Pushkan Civilian Defense Core, Coast Guard Division
The Macabees
23-10-2005, 21:24
To: Kriegzimmer Storefront
From: The Hague; Peace-time HQ

For optimal usage of the Praetorian batteries, The Netherlands wish to purchase the production rights for the matching ammunition at the cost of 20 Billion Dollars.

Also, for the development of a new step in static defence (how ironic) we wish to purchase the production rights of the launcher aswell.

Signed,

NL

[W@W]

To: The Hague, The Netherlands

The production rights for the P.746.X Praetorian variants have been granted to the Netherlands for the stated price. The production papers will be shipped to the Netherlands overland from Germany. As for the launcher, you may use the old Praetorian launchers, as we have no seperate launcher to sell , or you may use your own launchers or produce your own launchers. The P.746.X variant never came with specific launchers to increase versatility when it comes to what it can use to fire the propellant. Regardless, we're sure that these missiles will do the Netherlands great.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



The Republic of San Marino would like to order some specialist ammunition, we are astounded by the effectiveness of the Disintegrating MetalStorm rounds used on your 70mm Anti Air Artillery Pieces, we wish to order DMS rounds of 10" calibre, we would like to place a standing order for 15000 rounds a week to be delivered to the San Marinese Strategic Missile Command base in Lithuania.


OOC: I'll answer both IC and OOC in OOC fashion. The ships come with the Praetorian V, you have to buy the P.746.X series if you want to refit them; the refit doesn't come automatically, although the launchers on those ships will work with te P.746.A variant of the Praetorian. As for the CAPMES [enCAPsulated MetalStorm], I haven't released them, but I will if you're interested in them. So I can't sell them to you right now, but I promise they'll be up soon.]



We would like to order production rights for following units:
Cartagena SSN
Cadiz class SSBN
Tenerife class SSH

We are ready to allocate the sufficient funds as soon as our order is confirmed.

-Union of Communist Republics Council on Military Spending


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We would like to purchase the following units in the specified amounts:

Azores class Fast Attack CraftCartagena SSN # 150
Valencia class SSK # 20

Cost: 61 billion, 500 million USD

Funds to be allocated upon confirmation of the order.

-Pushkan Civilian Defense Core, Coast Guard Division


To: Union of Communist Republics Council on Military Spendin et
Pushkan Civilian Defense Core, Coast Guard Division

For the former, the production rights of all three of those submarine types have been confirmed at [i]one hundred and fifty billion. The plans will be encrypted and sent through a satellite databurst immediately after the money is wired to our bank.

For the latter service, PCDC, the order has been confirmed, and the twently Valencia class SSKs will arrive within eight months, while the one hundred and fifty Azores will arrive within eighteen months.

Kriegzimmer thanks both of the Pushkan military arms for their purchases and wish them luck in their continued expansion of their navy and coastal defenses.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Pushka
23-10-2005, 21:33
money wired
McKagan
24-10-2005, 00:52
The Imperial McKagan Navy has, for a long while, practiced the art of convoy raids against various merchant units.

While SSN's can carry out this role very easily, we would very much like a faster vessel for certain situations.

With this, we would like to purchase 50 Tenerife class SSH's for 59.5 billion USD.
Lame Bums
24-10-2005, 01:18
We would like to acquire the production rights for the Praetorian II for twenty billion USD's.

[signed]
The Macabees
24-10-2005, 01:36
The Imperial McKagan Navy has, for a long while, practiced the art of convoy raids against various merchant units.

While SSN's can carry out this role very easily, we would very much like a faster vessel for certain situations.

With this, we would like to purchase 50 Tenerife class SSH's for 59.5 billion USD.


To: McKagan

The order for the fifty SSHs has been confirmed for the stated price. They will be sent over the period of five years, ten SSHs per year. Yes, the SSH is much more adept for merchant raiding than a SSN since it has the increased velocity of over forty-three knots, which is lent by the shape of the hull, which is a pure cigar shape. We feel that it will fit perfectly for your strategy.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board



We would like to acquire the production rights for the Praetorian II for twenty billion USD's.

[signed]


The order for production rights for the Praetorian II have been confirmed for the above stated price. The production rights will be sent to you through encrypted satellite transmission. Thank you for your purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
HailandKill
24-10-2005, 02:29
Encrypted message to Kriegzmmer
With our naval wars increasing, we find use of many missiles to protect and destroy. We would like to buy the production rights to the P.746.X Praetorian et Variants Surface to Air Missiles [Inc. ASAT, SLASAT and HIBOLAAS] for the listed 20 Billion USD. We also would like to ask if we could buy the production rights to the Principe-III Anti-shipping missile, The Shockhound Avenger I Anti-shipping missile, as well as the Sledgehammer Anti-Dreadnought missile. Money is not an object, as our military budget is very high at the moment. Eagerly waiting response.

[Signed] Department of Defense Minister General Thomas Baxton
[Signed] President Revello
The Macabees
24-10-2005, 02:41
To: Department of Defense Minister General Thomas Baxton
CC: President Revello

Indeed, the production rights to the P.746.X series have been confirmed. The production rights for the Principe III, Shockhound Avenger and Sledgehammer will be confirmed at the cost of fifteen billion USD. We hope that this price is agreeable. Remember, the P.746.A is perfectly compatible with the current launchers on any shipping purchased from Kriegzimmer, which makes it a perfect replacement. Thanks for yet another order from our old friends.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
24-10-2005, 16:03
The Imperial McKagan Army's (IMA) has, for several years, been plagued in wartime (and clandestine) theatres by Special Operations/Guerilla forces from much smaller nations. Realizing that with much more superior air/artillery power, the deployed units still cannot fight an enemy that hides in civilian sectors. That, on top of the possibility of engagements with larger, well organized Armys, has called for changes within the Army community.

Last week, the senate approved funding for a 360 soldier organization. CODEX, as it will be called, consists of 60 6 man squads.

To engage these small conscript militias, the Army is looking to superiority in purchasing weapons. With that, we are to buy 500 Hali-21 Assault Rifles, placing a heavy emphasis on always having replacements. The price there comes to 1.275 Million USD.

That is far from all. We have also noted that enemy guerilla forces seek to employ large amounts of cheap APC's and sometimes even MBT's. To defeat this threat superior anti-tank forces are needed. With that, we would like to purchase 500 Panzerfaust X-9/Tagus Anti-Tank Missile's for 10.625 million USD.

Last but not least, superior body armor will, the majority of the time, win battles and save lives. It also helps commanders in their command and control operations, and even planning the missions. 500 of your BDU-64 units are required. The price for this aquisition comes to 21.250 million USD.

This is out basic purchase. Later, however, we may look to buy other units to compliment our forces in other areas. Specifically, transportation.
McKagan
24-10-2005, 21:32
The IMN is working on the R&D of a new Heavy Cruiser.

After researching multiple missile packages, we have chosen the primary ship-to-ship weapon for the vessel will be the Shockhound Avenger I, should you sell production rights to us, of course.

From that, we would love to give our Heavy Cruisers the ability to take out ships much more large and powerful than themselves. With that, we would like the Production rights for the Sledgehammer.
The Macabees
24-10-2005, 21:50
To: Imperial McKagan Army

The new organization within your army, codenamed CODEX, seems to be quite an interesting conception. We're glad that they have chosen the Hali-21 as their personal assault rifle, and so therefore the five hundred rifles will be shipped within the month. The Samsons will be shipped within the month as well, settling this order. We have faith that our weapons will prove to give your new special operations team what they need to succeed in jungle warfare, especially when considered the strength of stray shots, and how they will most likely not penetrate the BDU-64 .

As for the IMN, please pass on the message that their own order has been confirmed and production rights will be sold for six billion United States Legal Tender. If this should agree to this price the plans will be shipped to them [i]immediately. As with CODEX, we feel that these missiles will give your new heavy cruiser design what it needs to have the leverage in the battle.

Thank you for yet another two purchases. Kriegzimmer never forgets its customers, and like has happened before, protects them. Again, thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Kordo
24-10-2005, 22:59
The Kordoan Army and Navy has recently decided to upgrade its weapons systems and has decided to purchase the following from your store:
16,000 Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd’s
10,000 ATG-44 Anti-Tank Mine’s
50 Valencia class SSK’s

Total comes to: $3,881,000,000
The Macabees
24-10-2005, 23:15
To: Kordo

We're glad that your army and navy have come to Kriegzimmer for their upgrade to come. Kriegzimmer gladly confirms the entire order, meaning that the sixteen thousand Pzkfw. XI will arrive in batches of five hundred per month, meaning the entire order will take thirty-two months. The ten thousand ATG-44s will arrive within one month, while the Valencias will arrive within three months. We guarantee your satisfaction with these weapons. Welcome to Kriegzimmer and happy hunting!

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
25-10-2005, 18:12
Seeing as you have taken them off your storefront, we would like to purchase the production rights for teh Seydlitz class Cruiser, the Manstein Class Destroyer, the Model Class Aircraft Carrier and the Rommel Class Battleship.
(NS&W@W)
The Macabees
26-10-2005, 00:32
Seeing as you have taken them off your storefront, we would like to purchase the production rights for teh Seydlitz class Cruiser, the Manstein Class Destroyer, the Model Class Aircraft Carrier and the Rommel Class Battleship.
(NS&W@W)


To: Spizania

The production rights to all of those ship classes has been granted. Because of the fact that they are no longer sold or in service in our navies they will be granted for the cheaper price of a total of three hundred billion USD. We hope this is acceptable. Thank you for your time and cooperation.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
26-10-2005, 00:56
[OOC: Does that mean you're going to be putting out those new ships you were talking about soon?]
HailandKill
26-10-2005, 01:38
Long range bombing has always had a large impact of modern warfare and to create a fresh bomber wing we again turn to Kriegzimmer. In light of our recent discovery of the need of bombers we place an order for 200 GLI Albatross bombers. I place this order personally, as a show of faith to our long standing allies.

[Signed]President Revello
The Macabees
26-10-2005, 03:43
[OOC: Does that mean you're going to be putting out those new ships you were talking about soon?]

[OOC: In sometime yes. The lineart to my destroyer is done, even though it sucks, but regardless it's done, which is the important part. However, I have some other projects that stand in the way, including a new VTOL aircraft I'm building with Hailandkill, who's stats have been hammered out, I just need to write it out, and a new main battle tank with Truitt, which should be rather good, although it might weigh a bit. Along with the VTOL aircraft, at the same time, I'm releasing a new like of JASSM [and JASSM-ER] missiles, JDAM variants, BVRAAM and AMRAAM variants, and cruise missile variants because they have been designed specifically for that new aircraft, but can also be used on other aircraft of mine, as well as tweaked foreign aircraft. Then I may come out with the destroyer.]



Long range bombing has always had a large impact of modern warfare and to create a fresh bomber wing we again turn to Kriegzimmer. In light of our recent discovery of the need of bombers we place an order for 200 GLI Albatross bombers. I place this order personally, as a show of faith to our long standing allies.

[Signed]President Revello

[OOC: Almost forgot this.]

To: Hailandkill

Indeed, modern bombers are perhaps the mainstay of modern strategy, although the Empire's own military weighs this against other factors. Nonetheless, we agree that a bomber wing is extremely important, and we're glad that you again turned to us. The two hundred GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bombers have been confirmed and will be sent through ship to your nearest port [OOC: I need to get Guff to add you to that damn map!].

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
26-10-2005, 12:06
OOC: Can you do an AIM 47 Falcon Variant (With the Nuke?)
IC:
We accept the terms and hope that Kriegzimmer will work with us in the future.
The Macabees
26-10-2005, 23:47
OOC: Can you do an AIM 47 Falcon Variant (With the Nuke?)
IC:
We accept the terms and hope that Kriegzimmer will work with us in the future.


[OOC: You would be most likely better served by a more modern Surface to Air missile like the Praetorian. You could always exchange the warhead of the Praetorian with a nuclear tip, and you can do the same with most other SAMs you may buy out there. This wouldn't allow for a hit-to-kill, and the Praetorian itself has the same HE destructiveness, and possibly more due to the CAPMES. Regardless, a modern surface to air missile, in my opinion, would do you better than a interceptor designed in the 60s.]
Spizania
26-10-2005, 23:53
OOC; I could put a 1kT warhead on the Praetorian A or B variant, might develop a Nuclear AtA missile as a project, could be interesting.
McKagan
27-10-2005, 00:05
What does someone need a nuclear missile to take out an airplane?

Mac, will you be putting out a new bomber soon?
Halberdgardia
27-10-2005, 00:12
What does someone need a nuclear missile to take out an airplane?

[OOC: I'm assuming he wants to use it as a AtG missile for tactical nuclear strikes. Not a half-bad idea, if I do say so myself, but I'd personally use nuclear-tipped Tomahawks or other, more superior NS cruise missiles.]
Call to power
27-10-2005, 00:39
Message from: CTP military command

We have recently created the Goldfish class patrol boat ideal for river/coastal patrol subsequently we see a market for such a ship and wish to begin the sale of this vessel

Pic: http://photobucket.com/albums/y100/Hypotheticalia/?action=view&current=bootyship.jpg

Dimensions:
Overall length 30 feet 2 inches
Overall beam 10 feet 8 inches

The Goldfish is designed to give a new high tech solution to river patrol along with this it can also be used for coastal patrol, anti-piracy and even stealthy assaults.

Weapons: the Goldfish features one chain gun firing 25mm armour piercing bullets or can be modified to use a grenade or rocket launcher there is also room to store 4 M-16s

Speed: the craft can push an astounding 38 knots with the new 12-cylinder Sulzer RT-flex96C even in shallow waters
(http://www.wartsila.com/en,press,0,tradepressrelease,16039401542644392,360867807357372,,.htm)

Armour: the craft features silk steel armour which is light yet still able to stop most conventional arms

Crew: 1-2

Cost: 40 million USD (Bones the drunk pirate flag and one limited edition west life CD included)
McKagan
27-10-2005, 00:47
[OOC: I'm assuming he wants to use it as a AtG missile for tactical nuclear strikes. Not a half-bad idea, if I do say so myself, but I'd personally use nuclear-tipped Tomahawks or other, more superior NS cruise missiles.]

[OOC: Putting tactical nuclear weapons in planes is a GREAT idea, because NO ONE on NS will allow a single missile through those super-ultra-mega-missile defense sheilds that sell for 2 million dollars around here. I'm thinking of building something on the B2 platform just TO deliver nuclear stuff, not in missile form, either.]
The Macabees
27-10-2005, 03:55
What does someone need a nuclear missile to take out an airplane?

Mac, will you be putting out a new bomber soon?

[OOC: Not really, I plan to use the GLI-34 Albatross for a long time. But is there anything you had in mind? I can easily work on it.]


<snip>


[OOC: Added!]
Spizania
27-10-2005, 11:17
What does someone need a nuclear missile to take out an airplane?


I dont need it to take out AN airplane, i need it to take out a whole wing of airplanes at once from long range. And also for overwhelming peoples missile defence nets, they cant stop hundreds of missiles.
The Macabees
28-10-2005, 00:41
GLI-76 Falcon VTOL Multi-Role Fighter
[A Joint Hailandkill/Macabee Design]

Abstract: The project was originally instated by Hailandkill as a new aircraft for use on his Maiden class SSCVN, however, after a series of grueling delays the original project was taken to Kriegzimmer. The ultimate team of engineers from both countries, ranging from aeronautical, aerospace and computer engineers, as well as a host of mechanical and electronic engineers, released a design that would forever be dubbed the GLI-76 Falcon. After a series of tests, including those for individual parts to the aircraft, and experiment flights the GLI-76 was deemed perfect for release a full thirty-six months after the beginning of the project, dubbed EXG.111.

The idea behind the GLI-76 was not make it into a prospective 'end all-be all' design. Indeed, the possibilities were that it within itself would not be able to stand up against larger and heavier air superiority fighters. But, that was never the intention of the engineers, and it had always been that the GLI-76 Falcon would remain a small, maneuverable, and efficient multi role fighter to be based off the limited capability SSCVN and even the CVNs, being a better option over the Lu-25 Black Mariah, which had several of the problems that the Lu-5 had [which was recently replaced by the Lu-45 Hawk]. The GLI-76 would remain a much more conservative and non-controversial aircraft, produced simply to base a large number of them off any given CVN or SSCVN. Indeed, the Luftwaffe had announced plans to drop the Lu-12 Canary from service and simply replace them with the Falcon, which amounts to around three thousand purchased GLI-76s just for the Luftwaffe.

The limited capabilities of the GLI-76 included a low velocity, due in part to the single engine power plant, and to the fact that the size of the airframe put restrictions on speed due to the fact that it most likely would not withstand the pressure of increased air resistance and consequent heat. It also is limited by the fact that it has very small payload ability, although for the purposes of this flight a large payload would be largely irreverent anyways.

The obvious advantages to the GLI-76 include its size as opposed to the larger ASF aircraft currently in use around the world, which means that it has a larger chance to use its stealth characteristics fully, and that it includes several aircraft and sensor systems that permit it to retain its excellence in the years to come. Indeed, the GLI-76 might be one of the new designs that underscore Kriegzimmer's striving to become some of the most excellent arms manufacturers currently in business. With the release of the GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber and the Lu-45 Hawk this becomes more of a reality as time passes by.

The original program's cost was set at around eleven billion Reichmarks, although as the project continued it was obvious it would cost more than that. The ultimate cost came at twenty-seven billion Reichmarks, distributed amongst all major subordinate arms companies working for Kriegzimmer, and those Hailandkill companies that also put forward a lot of technologies and thoughts. However, the final product was well worth the money. Indeed, the Golden Kriegsmarine has opted to scrap or sell its host of Lu-25s and replace them with the GLI-76 Falcon VTOL within the next eight years. It's not known how many will be purchased from Hailandkill from their own weapon manufacturers, although the order will also be substantial. Kriegzimmer has also prepared for sales throughout the international armaments market.

Airframe: The airframe is made of ten titanium ribs with a hull composed of a nickel-aluminum alloy mixed with sturdy ceramics, giving the airframe some mass, but avoiding making it heavy. Indeed, as compared to other aircraft, the GLI-76 is considerably lighter in weight. The hull has an outward layer of a plastic and glass composite. This is somewhat of a tweaked design taken from basic Norwegian shipping which includes a smaller radar signature within the context that this either absorbs or deflects in other directions light waves due to the nature of glass in general. Support beams and structures throughout the airframe are built out of carbon fiber.

All angles of the aircraft follow the standard equation of Brewster's Angle, giving it a substantially lower radar cross section [RCS]. The angles are designed for polarization which means that the radar wave will be reflected at another angle, and not at the expected incident angle. All of the airframe's angles are at around fifty-six degrees, just like the Lu-45 Hawk and GLI-34 Albatross. This also includes the outwards angling of the two tails at the end of the aircraft, providing for stable aerodynamics and a smaller RCS, as opposed to having a single vertical tail. For further stealth the entire aircraft is covered with the same radiation absorbent material [RAM] as other Kriegzimmer aerial designs, which absorbs radar anywhere from 3MHz to 6 GHz, which is basically a composition of honeycomb RAM, foam RAM and black RAM. Doubled with the layer of glass underneath, there is a heavy absorption rate, making the GLI-76 extremely stealthy in subsonic velocities.

The aircraft is also layered with a third generation single crystal super alloy named RENE N6, and the heavier coatings of this can be found around the nose, the junctions of the wings, the wings themselves, the tail area, the intakes, and other areas of high heat proportions and exposion to the natural elements. RENE N6 has the advantage of having a low susceptibility to a hydrogen embrittlement environment and extreme resistance to heat, allowing the GLI-76 greater velocities with a smaller power plant, which ultimately aids it in the reduction of its infra-red signature in the whole picture. Nonetheless, no one has ever considered the super alloy to be an end all-be all, and certainly nobody expects it to live up to such charges.

Testing conducted throughout the program on the airframe, including creep pressures under high heat and high friction, and velocity tests in wind tunnels have given good reports on the airframe of the GLI-76 and have noted its design to be one far superior to previous aircraft, for example, the F-15 and F-35. Research on the topic also includes a variety of pre-existing data on the materials used, including several articles and papers on the effects of super alloys and such. Indeed, the vast majority of the information used to even begin on the design of the airframe was received through a collection of past resources. As a consequence, the program engineers had churned out a very good design of their own.

The wings follow that of the Lu-45 Hawk, as well as other more modern designs, which is the switchblade concept. Ideally, through a series of hydraulics and electrical impulses the wings would be able to sweep from a standard position to a forward position, allowing the wings to basically cover three vital positions; the standard position, a forward swept position and a delta wing style, giving three different aerodynamic qualities. Indeed, the first position, having the wings perpendicular to the body would allow for slower runs for more accurate precision body if that was the objective of the given aircraft, while the forward swept wings would allow for dashing maneuverability in aerial combat, while the final position, with the wings fully swept forward in a smaller delta wing version would allow the GLI-76 extremely high velocities.

Nonetheless, these concepts do come with a considerable cost increase in both developing and expanding the concept and the manufacturing of these wings and electronics. It is expected, however, that through the months to come advances in the process of manufacturing will severely lower the price although this isn't guaranteed. Past experiences have said that this would technically be capable, but again, no research team has yet been assigned for the task, so the price still remains that originally high price, although it is considerably lower than other air superiority aircraft due to its restricted size.

Finally, the GLI-76 incorporates a reversible canard system, with two canards located under the fuselage, allowing the aircraft to point one way, while flying another. This means that the aircraft's sensor systems will still be able to track. It's a widely used concept, also seen on the Lu-45 Hawk.

Power plant: The developing of the power plant was perhaps the most devious of the entire project's requirements since it was the most difficult to agree on between engineers. Some had opted for a dual engine design, while most decided that a single engine design would be best. In the context of the whether the aircraft would have one engine, as opposed to having two engines, it was finally decided that the GLI-76 would have a power plant of a single engine. The other principle problem was how to deal with the creep, pressures on the engines, the heat, and hydrogen embrittlement of the casting for the single engine. The third largest problem was how to deal with the infra-red signature of a single engine design.

To deal with the first issue, the mechanical and aerospace engineering team managed to make available testing grounds in Arras, where the general lack of high urbanization made it possible for high noise renderings and frequent engine testing. The tests included a series of flights with different dual engine designs, and then with single engine designs. The final engine was one of the variants of the single engine design, putting out thirty thousand pound force [lbf] of thrust using a low-bypass turbofan with the blades and fans designed out of mono-crystalline material. Subsequent observing during the first system development and demonstration phase [SDD] noticed high creep and fatigue due to general levels of heat and friction. Consequently, the engine was taken back for revisions, and what came out was the same engine coated with a layer of Thymonel 8, as well as two auxiliary layers of CMSX-11B and CMSX-116, respectively. During the second round of development and demonstration the engines came out perfect, just like expected.

For VTOL capabilities the aircraft was given two thrust vector shaft-driven jet systems underneath the wings, while doors installed next to these jets allow for vertical lift and stabilization and open/close on command through standard hydraulics tied in to the rest of the flaps on the wing. These particular 'engines' were purchased off Luftkrieg by GLI some six months prior to the release of the aircraft.

Apart from that, the aircraft also uses counter flow thrust vectoring [CTV] for greater maneuverability at higher velocities. Although CTV has limitations, especially when the aircraft is flying faster than Mach 2, these limitations shouldn't make themselves evident on the GLI-76 since the aircraft is specifically designed to never break such velocities. Indeed, the maximum velocity of the GLI-76 remains at Mach 2.4, while the cruising velocity is as high as Mach 1.7, although the aircraft is truly designed for cruising done at subsonic velocities, merely having transonic capabilities for the sake of modern warfare expectations, and to offer lucrative options to potential foreign buyers.

With the second problem in the power plant design solved with the inclusion of several heat and fatigue resistant single crystal super alloys only the third problem remained. This was solved relatively easily by the inclusion of IR suppressants with ratings being the same used on the Rafale. Because the heat given by the engines of the GLI-76 would be especially lower than those on the French aircraft the heat suppressant characteristics would also be higher, which means that the infrared signature offered by the GLI-76 Falcon remains relatively low both at outtakes, intakes, and other areas of high heat.

Avionics and Systems: The great advantage of Macabee aircraft remain on the GLI-76 since all electronic parts are line replaceable units and shop replaceable units, making the Falcon’s electronic suit much more logistics friendly. Furthermore, it offers a highly ad vance avionics and system characteristic for the aircraft, making it a much more demanded aircraft than others. Indeed, the infamy of Kriegzimmer's standard excellence in their product's electronics transfers over to the GLI-76s design, including an extraordinary job done by Hailand kill in the design of the side stick and throttle controls.

All systems are linked directly to the pilot through a series of screens arrayed in front of him, including a heads-up display [HUD] on the pilot's helmet, following the design of the Eurofighter, F-35 and Rafael. Arrayed infront of him are six polychromatic liquid crystal matrix display [ALMCD] screens and four up-front display screens which host the electronic flight instrumentation system [EFIS] and Integrated Communications Navigation Identification Avionics suit. The entire avionics and systems suit is powered by a singe Common Integrated Processor [CIP], known as [i]Hans, which also powers the Integrated Electronic Warfare System , which takes advantage of high speed databuses. The CIP is rated at two thousand million instructions per second [Mips], with signal processing rated at fifty billion operations per second , aided by the [b]very high-speed integrated circuit (VHSIC) technology, and separate modules, constructed out of already well tested titanium/ceramic superconducting wires.

After healthy experiences within the Lu-45 Hawk the program also opted to include a Communication/Navigation/Identification [CNI] system, with its own [i]synthetic aperture array, with also links to te identification friend or foe program, which all composes a very effecient inter-aircraft and group cooperation, along with the Joint Tactical Information Distribution System [JTID] system and a Intra-Flight Data Link [IFDL] suit. The level of options for intra-flight cooperation is simply [i]spectacular.

For stock and warfare management the aircraft includes a Electronic Warfare [EW] system and a Stores Management System [SMS] system which continously work and cooperate together for a much more effective suit. The latter is expanded by two subordinate systems, including the Vehicle Management System[/b [VMS] and Integrated Vehicle System Controller , all in the avionics racks. The former, the EW, is for automatic countermeasure dispensing, as well as two other systems, the [b]Advance Integrated Defensive Electronic Countermeasure System [AIDECS] and a bit more revelant, the electronic counter-measure system [ECMS], which does it's job jointly with the EW system.

The pilot's well being is controlled and sensored by an Environment Awareness Module [EAM] and a Onboard Oxygen-Generating System (OBOGS). Furthermore, the pilot can effectively monitor the situation around the aircraft components using Engines Indicating and Crew Alerting System [EICAS], an Altitude and Heading Reference System [AHRS] and an Air Data Computer [ADC]. The primary flight controls come thorugh the Electrohydrostatic Actuation System [EAS], allowing control over the flaps and thrust vectoring if needed.

For navigational aids the GLI-76 includes several old and new systems, including a satellite based reality reproduction [SBRR] system and a hybrid navigational system, which works with gyro inertial guidance and a [i]global positioning system [GPS]. For an all purpose navigational system the Hawk has the tactical air navigational system [TACAN], which is supplemented by a terrain profiling and matching system [TERPROM], much like that used by the Tomahawk missile, which also works hand in hand with the global positioning system and other reconnaissance satellite systems.

Sensors: All sensors are collectively handled and constrolled from the central sensor system [CSS], esigned to take over the confusion of having separate sensor systems, acting like a guide to the pilot if the pilot is working in a compressed time table. This system, likewise to the Lu-45 Hawk, is connected to the Imperial Radio Detection and Ranging Central Nervous System , as are all aircraft designs by Kriegzimmer and bought variants from abroad, including those purchased from Juuministra. The IRCNS system allows for a fully integrated multi-radar suit, including a [i]solid-state microwave module and a electronically scanned array [ESA], which has a wider bandwidth, while using less volume and prime power. The Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) capability of the radar defeats conventional RWR/ESM systems, which means that the Falcon can illuminate an enemy target without that enemy knowing that it was illuminated. Furthermore, with an Inverse Synthetic Aperture radar , the pilot can illuminate a target, tell it's features and compare it to the aircraft's database of foreign aircraft.

The aircraft also includes a [i]bi-static phased array radar, with phase-shifters to avoid moving components in the radar, thus allowing the aircraft to retain the same level of stealth. Coupled with a infra-red search and track system , the system has a two hundred kilometer and fifty kilometer tracking ability, respectively, while including a radar warning receiver aerials [RWR] for basic protection services.

There’s also a series of LIDAR sensor systems installed throughout the aircraft, including a single down-looking LIDAR system underneath the nose of the Hawk. There are also two wide LIDAR apertures on the front and end of the aircraft, located in hidden pockets to reduce RCS. All three LIDAR systems work similarly, and they all incorporate Luftkrieg’s second generation LIDAR technology. The Falcon’s system is based on a transponder and receiver, beside that of the IFF transponder, which uses a Gaussian transmitter system to transmit LIDAR waves. The Gaussian transmitter is based on two electrical fields sending electrically charged photonic waves to bounce off targets and have active measurements on its velocity and location. The advantage of this LIDAR system is that the active RADAR only needs to gain a location on an object once before the LIDAR can take over, meaning a bomber can turn off its active RADAR to reduce its signature. The Albatross’ LIDAR uses Doppler LIDAR in order to keep track of an object’s velocity, as well as a LIDAR range finder. The missile’s heterodyne-reception optical RADAR uses a standard configuration [transmitter laser > exit optics > atmospheric propagation path > target] and [photodetector > photocurrent processing > image processing / BermCombiner/ local oscillator entrance optics]. The Silencer's transmitter is a Casegrainian telescope, which works much like the photonic mast on an ultra-modern submarine.

There are several targetting technologies including on the aircraft, including a electro-optical targeting system [EOTS] and FLIR, using a [i]charged couple device CCD camera, which provides long-range detection and precision targeting, along with a [b]distributed aperture system [DAS]. EOTS is embedded under the nose, while FLIR and DAS is included throughout the design.

Weapon Stores: The aircraft has two internal stocks, with a total of six hardpoints, which provide room for a series of new weaponry being released along with the GLI-76 Falcon. Technically, the entire payload of the Falcon remains at three thousand pounds. Weapons compatible with the design include the AAM.176 BVRAAM [r. 275 kilometers], the AAM.37 AMRAAM [r. 120 kilomters] and the AAM.21 SRAAM [r. 30 kilometers]. Other weapons include the GUH.212.A JASSM, GUH.212.B nuclear tipped JASSM, the GUH.212.C JASSM-ER, the RIC.617.A JDAM, the RIC.617.B JDAM and the RIC.617.B nuclear JDAM, amongst a host of thers.

Although the total stockpile of the aircraft is not entirely outstanding, the aircraft is lighter which is of utmost importance, and highly realistic in its design objectives in the years that it will be of service within the airforces of multiple countries.

Statistics:
Aircraft Standard Title: GLI-76 Falcon
Function: Multi-role Fighter
Propulsion: J237-VCD-63 turbofans
Thrust: 25,000 lbf
Maximum Velocity: Mach 2.4
Crusing Velocity: Mach 1.7 and subsonic
Range: 600 nm
Maximum Take-off Weight: 50,000 lbs.
Internal Fuel: 17,000 lbs
Length: 43 ft.
Wingspan: 31 ft.
Ceiling: 54,000 ft.
Crew: 1
Armaments: 2 internal stocks with 4 hardpoints
Cost per Aircraft: 56 million USD
Cost for Production Rights: 32 billion USD
The Macabees
28-10-2005, 00:47
AAM Series Air to Air Missiles

AAM.176 BVRAAM
Description: The AAM.176 is a beyond visual range air to air missile, providing any airforce with an extremely long range air to air missile for modern warfare. The AAM.176 is a turn from the MTAAM series of missiles which saw three variants designed over the year, although technically, the idea stays much the same. The necessity for the missile is to allow pilots to target multiple enemy bogies at the same time, without keeping track of all the missiles, consequently the title of beyond visual range. Furthermore, it also implies an extended range, which for this particular missile is quite high.
Total Length: 4.572 Meters
Total Width: .1778 Meters
Fin Span: .308 Meters
Weight: 181 Kilograms
Velocity: Mach 3.7
Warhead: 70kg; hit-to-kill & blast fragmentation [HE]
Power Plant: Initial rocket fuel booster [adding .87 meters to the missile] & hydrogen injected ramjet.
Maximum Effective Range: 275 kilometers
Guidance Mode: Inertial, Millimeter Band RADAR, LIDAR & IR
Unit Cost: $576,000
Production Rights Cost: $2.7 Billion

AAM.37 AMRAAM
Description: Although the AMRAAM has always been regardes as the next step to the AIM-7 Sparrow project, a short range air to air missile, it is faster, smaller and lighter, than the AIM-7 and AIM-9, allowing for a greater range, although that still doesn't match the range of the AAM.176. The AAM.37 AMRAAM was designed for two main reasons. The first, to provide a missile lighter than the AAM.176 for missions that would require more air to air missiles, thus taking up less total compartment space, and adding less slack to the missile racks of the hardpoints. The second, to provide an alternate, and lower cost, missile to potential buyers. Although most likely the BVRAAM is the one to see the most warfare in the years to come, the AMRAAM will still be held as a valuable second option.
Total Length: 3.6 Meters
Total Width: 0.17 Meters
Fin Span: .0.31 Meters
Weight: 161.4 Kilograms
Velocity: Mach 3.4
Warhead: 70kg; hit-to-kill & blast fragmentation [HE]
Power Plant: Solid Propellant Rocket
Maximum Effective Range: 130 kilometers
Guidance Mode: Inertial, Millimeter Band RADAR, LIDAR & IR
Unit Cost: $386,000
Production Rights Cost: $2.3 Billion

AAM.21 SRAAM
Description: The AAM.21 is to be used as a a last resort within the Luftwaffe, but is still an export option for those smaller nations that cannot afford mass produced AAM.176s and AAM.37s. Nonetheless, they are typically less accurate, slower, weigh more, are larger, and are in general more ineffective when it comes to everything. Nonetheless, they are cheaper, which makes a big difference to a poorer nation.
Total Length: 3.1 Meters
Total Width: 0.13 Meters
Fin Span: .0.27 Meters
Weight: 127.4 Kilograms
Velocity: Mach 2.4
Warhead: 50kg; blast fragmentation [HE]
Power Plant: Solid Propellant Rocket
Maximum Effective Range: 30 kilometers
Guidance Mode: Inertial & IR
Unit Cost: $273,000
Production Rights Cost: $1.4 Billion
McKagan
28-10-2005, 01:25
[OOC: EXCELLENT missiles. Beyond excellent. If long(er) range missiles proliferated, the NS world would be changed forever. Of course, we'd have people saying they could shoot a missile 3000km's and hit a cat, but that's beside the point.]

IC:

IMAF has, for a long time, looked to avoid dogfights against older, inferior MiG's and F-15's. While dogfights with these units are more than easy, they take time and can prove dangerous if the IMAF fighters are escorts for a bomber wing that is yet to make itself known. Because of this, were are interested in purchasing production rights to the AAM.176 BVRAAM. With our discount, that comes to 2.295 billion USD.
Halberdgardia
28-10-2005, 01:56
Citing the reasoning of our colleagues at the IMAF, the Halberdgardian Air Force wishes also to purchase production rights to the AAM.176 BVRAAM. $2.7 billion to be wired upon confirmation.
The Macabees
28-10-2005, 03:59
To: IMAF, McKagan

Indeed, the BVRAAM should come in perfect for the situations you want to avoid, and we think it's a great choice for IMAF. As a consequent, we confirm your order, and the production rights will be flown to IMAF's headquarters immediately [within the next three to four days]. Thank you for yet another business deal with Kriegsimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

To: Halberdgardian Air Forc

We thank you for your purchase. As an IADF member you receive a 20% discount, so that has been taken into account, although our accounts are personally too lazy to show you the price right now [ :p ]. Regardless, we hope you are pleased by the AAM.176 BVRAAM.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
28-10-2005, 13:51
We woudl like ot purcahse the rights to all three missiles for 6.4bn dollars, with my 20% discount that makes less money,im too tired to work out how much.

W@W
We'd like to purchase the produiction rights to your new aircraft, teh Falcon

OOC: You released the Falcon just to make all those Lu-25s i have obsolete didnt you? :P
The Macabees
28-10-2005, 16:19
We woudl like ot purcahse the rights to all three missiles for 6.4bn dollars, with my 20% discount that makes less money,im too tired to work out how much.

W@W
We'd like to purchase the produiction rights to your new aircraft, teh Falcon

OOC: You released the Falcon just to make all those Lu-25s i have obsolete didnt you? :P

[OOC: This message alternates between W@W and RL. You know what you ordered them for :p ]

To: Spizania and The Evil Twin Brother San Marino

Your production rights for the three AAM series missiles and the GLI-76 Falcon have been confirmed for the price indicated, with the twenty percent discount. The three missile's production rights will be sent within three days, while the other production rights will be flown to that random Baltic country you own [I forgot which one]. Thank you.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Lame Bums
29-10-2005, 01:30
To: Kriegzimmer Board.

We would like to acquire the production rights to the MLAM-2 Air to Surface Missile and the GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber, for the price tag of forty billion USD's, and are interested in working on a joint cruise-missile project.
Kroando
29-10-2005, 19:35
The Californian Military, in hopes to improve our much outdated navy, would like to purchase (14) Cadiz Class SSBN's for 12.6 billion dollars, (9) Tenerife class SSH's for 11.7 billion dollars. If these vessels could be dispatched to The Los Angeles Naval Base in California, we would be most grateful. If the production rights are available to said vessels, we would be most interested in aquiring them, thank you, have a nice day.

[Money to be wired upon confirmation]

~Consul Kraken
Corzia
30-10-2005, 00:41
OOC: i was wondering if you wanted to work on a new assault rifle system with me? i have some ideas and several illustrations all set up and i have decided to replace my tons of old TPM weapons.
The Macabees
31-10-2005, 02:46
OOC: i was wondering if you wanted to work on a new assault rifle system with me? i have some ideas and several illustrations all set up and i have decided to replace my tons of old TPM weapons.

[OOC: Yea, hell yea, I really need to get a new assault rifle; I don't like the ones I did hapharzardly.]


To: Kriegzimmer Board.

We would like to acquire the production rights to the MLAM-2 Air to Surface Missile and the GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber, for the price tag of forty billion USD's, and are interested in working on a joint cruise-missile project.


To: Lame Bums

Your orders for production rights for the MLAM-2 ASM and GLI-34 have been confirmed for the stated price of forty billion USD. We would be glad to participate in a joint cruise missile project, and actually have plans to release a certain number of variants of new cruise missiles, including hypersonic cruise missiles. Thank you for your order.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


The Californian Military, in hopes to improve our much outdated navy, would like to purchase (14) Cadiz Class SSBN's for 12.6 billion dollars, (9) Tenerife class SSH's for 11.7 billion dollars. If these vessels could be dispatched to The Los Angeles Naval Base in California, we would be most grateful. If the production rights are available to said vessels, we would be most interested in aquiring them, thank you, have a nice day.

[Money to be wired upon confirmation]

~Consul Kraken


To: Consul Kraken

Your order for fourteen Cadiz class SSBNs and nine Tenerife class SSHs has been confirmed for the stated price. They will make it to Los Angeles [although Point Loma is the major submarien base in California, eclipsing San Francisco; Point Loma, San Diego, that is] within one and a half years. Thank you for your purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
HailandKill
31-10-2005, 20:48
[OOC: Hey Mac, with all the new crazy tank designs popping up, I was wondering if you would like to co-design a new MBT? I have some ideas and such. Lemme know.]

To: Kriegzimmer board
From: Joint Chiefs of HailandKill Armed Forces

We would like production rights to all three missiles. The money has been wired along with this transmission. Thank you.

[Signed]The Joint Chiefs of Staff
The Macabees
01-11-2005, 20:41
[OOC: Hey Mac, with all the new crazy tank designs popping up, I was wondering if you would like to co-design a new MBT? I have some ideas and such. Lemme know.]

To: Kriegzimmer board
From: Joint Chiefs of HailandKill Armed Forces

We would like production rights to all three missiles. The money has been wired along with this transmission. Thank you.

[Signed]The Joint Chiefs of Staff

To: Joint Chiefs of HailandKill Armed Forces

We're assuming you're speaking about the air to air missiles. In that case, production rights have been confirmed without further hesitation, as you are one the greatest allies of the Empire. Thank you for your continued interest within Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Lame Bums
02-11-2005, 03:14
To: Kriegzimmer Board:

As our naval technology is utterly lacking in some fields, we would like to acquire the production rights to the Paramount class Air Defense Vessel, the Cartagena class SSN, and the Shockhound Avenger. We are willing to pay the price of five hundred billion USD's for the blueprints of said designs.

[signed] Zionist Republic of Lame Bums
Southeastasia
02-11-2005, 13:57
Praetorian II Mobile Surface to Air Missile Launcher

[Image: The image was drawn by myself, and colored by Ato-Sara.]

http://worldwarwiki.modernwarstudies.net/personal_images/praetorianframes.png

The Praetorian II was the response to the growing problems concerning the Praetorian mobile surface to air missile launcher, including the fact that the Praetorian V missiles sometimes jammed within the small tubes, and that regardless of the sold range, the missile didn't have that range, which was likely because the launchers were extremely small, constricting the original size of the missile. Furthermore, there were problems with the fact that the barrels of the Praetorian launcher could simply not stand the head of sustained fire from the missiles, cuasing them to be needing replacements after every two launching sequences. As a consequence, the Praetorian mobile launcher was just too expensive to keep in combat for sustained periods of time. Indeed, the cost of putting these into combat around Aurillac and Mosnoi Bor during the War of Golden Succession was immense, eclipsing the cost of operating the early aerial formations.

The Praetorian II, unlike the original design, is not a self powered vehicle, but instead relies on an Ebro Type 23 truck. The truck has a six hundred horse power engine with a two stick transmission designed to maximize par and minimize horsepower when in the context of acceleration, meaning the truck is designed to tow, not to move quickly. The first stick has five gears, which are directly controlled by the second stick with three groups, giving the truck a total of fifteen gears. The first group maximizes torque [par], while the second group is designed for more acceleration if there is a need, and the third group is for reverse. The steering application is done through hydraulics and the braking is done by wire, although the brake itself is divided into two, allowing the driver to apply the brake one tire, depending on the direction of the turn, consequently the truck can make wider turns.

Before the Praetorian launcher, the box guards the computer application which is the fire and control system, as well as the central nervous system for the Engagement Control Station. The computer also localizes a phased array radar, which works on multiple bandwidths, and is very difficult to jam. Indeed, the PAC-3 system's radar has been deemed one of the most difficult, and considering that the radar on the Praetorian is more advance than that on the PAC-3, it can be deducted that the Praetorian's radar is, indeed, very difficult to jam.

Praetorian II mostly work in packs, with a single command truck commanding up to one hundred batteries over a range of over one hundred kilometers. The command truck includes a Headquarters and Headquarters Battery, which houses and leads the information and coordination central, that controls air traffic locations during an air battle sending information to higher echelons and subordinate groups, Communications relay groups, antenna mast groups, Trailer mounted electric power units, and guided missile transporters.

The fire and control system present on the Praetorian II, dubbed 'Brass', is the new top notch of said systems, developed by General Dynamics (Canada) and expanded upon by the Empire's own engineers. It includes Multi-Role Sensor Suite, Multi-Sensor Integration, Integrated Sensor/TA Suite, Virtual Immersive, Environment (AVTB), Neuroholographic ATD/R, Immersive Visualization. Moreover, the new system has both a low altitude RADAR and LIDAR system which has capabilities of tracking and giving firing solutions for up to twenty different targets at up to four thousand meters for the LIDAR and up to eleven thousand meters for the RADAR (although, of course, a gun doesn't necessarily have the power nor the type of shell to reach that far, and of course, that doesn't mean that the area between you and the enemy tank if full of large rocks that can disrupt your shell and its vector). The LIDAR uses a gaussian transmitter, which is right now the most advanced LIDAR transmitter developed by the United States. Of course, this fire and control system also uses thermal imaging, and of course, infra-red imaging. The Praetorian II's computer also feeds transmissions from grounded, and larger, RADAR arrays, on land, air and sea, giving it wider and more accurate coverage.

The launcher can launch eight Praetorians within a time set of fifteen seconds. It can thus be reloaded within forty-five minutes, depending on the logistical capabilities of the nation using the equipment. To take the heat of multiple launch sequences the launcher is lined internally with a cap of RENE N6, a Nickel based aluminum superalloy which has been tested time and time again to have high heat resistivity and the additional resistance to hydrogen enviroment embrittlement, caused by high heat. The launcher must be maintained after every twenty launch sequences, but doesn't necessarilly have to be replaced.

The Praetorian missile, technically the Praetorian VI, has just reverted to the original name of merely the Praetorian surface to air missile. The missile has been changed to be exactly the same missile as used in fixed batteries in order to improve logistics capabilities of the Praetorian batteries, wether fixed or mobile. The missile uses a fully capable RAMjet, which works at lower altitudes than the SCRAMjet, but still uses a temporary rocket booster. The missile has the capability of hitting Mach 1.2 within ten seconds after launch, and Mach 2 after twenty seconds of launch. It's counter-thrust nozzle vectoring gives it superior manuevaribility. It's said the PAC-3 can out manuever any aircraft and most missiles; imagine the Praetorian.

The Praetorian II mobile launcher is to become the mainstay surface to air missile battery used within the Empire for at least the next thirty years, further improvements nonwithstanding. It's deemed a very large improvement over the past design, the Praetorian MSAM, and one of the best regarding international armaments.

Statistics:
Truck: Ebro Type 23 [Heavy Logistics]
Engine: 600 bhp biodiesel
Maximum Velocity: 60 kph
Range: 405 kilometers
Length: 13.5 meters
Width: 3.7 meters
Angle of Turn: seventy-six degrees [if a full turn would be ninety degrees]
Sensor Systems:
Engagement Control Station
Headquarters and Headquarters Battery
Information and Coordination Central
Communications Relay Groups
Antenna Masts Groups
Trailer Mounted Electric Power Units
Missile Powerplant: Hydrogen enjection/RAMjet/Rocket Engine
Missile Range: 350 kilometers
Missile Length: 5.6 meters
Missile Weight: 376 kilograms
Warhead: 75 kilogram high explosive/CAPMES secondary warhead [disposable metalstorm canister]


Cost: 1.7 Million USD
OOC: Is this capable of downing ICBMs launched from space?
The Macabees
03-11-2005, 01:41
To: Kriegzimmer Board:

As our naval technology is utterly lacking in some fields, we would like to acquire the production rights to the Paramount class Air Defense Vessel, the Cartagena class SSN, and the Shockhound Avenger. We are willing to pay the price of five hundred billion USD's for the blueprints of said designs.

[signed] Zionist Republic of Lame Bums


To: Zionist Republic of Lame Bums

The production rights to the Paramount, Cartagena and Shockhound Avenger have been awared for the full price of one hundred and eighty billion United States Legal Tender. Hopefully, this is a good enough price, but Kriegzimmer's policy is to remain negotiable. Regardless, thank you for your cooperation.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board


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[Southeastasia: Technically, no. However, the ASAT, as depicted here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9818755&postcount=678) is about a full meter smaller, so technically, you could also change the inner workings of the launcher to fit the smaller size to fire the ASAT; there should be no problem, and your own military should be able to do at will, through relatively simple mechanics. A standard Praetorian II fires the P.746.B variant, which is exactly like the P.746.A, only with a different power plant to fit a different, low altitude, short range role.]
-Kreynoria-
03-11-2005, 02:48
Hyena Anti-Tank Vehicle × 240 ($2.4 billion)

400mm Coastal Railgun × 16 ($19.2 million)

Incinérateur 155mm Rapid Fire Artillery × 96 ($28.8 million)

Argentine-class Galleon × 1 ($130 billion)

SOV-06 Infantry Fighting Vehicle × 600 ($2.7 billion)

Paramount-class Air Defense Vessel × 28 ($19.6 billion)

Cadiz-class SSBN × 2 ($1.8 billion)

Be-23 Archimedes’ Lever Heavy Transport × 30 ($5.7 billion)

Lu-12 Canary Tactical Strike Fighter × 60 ($5.4 billion)

Pepperbox-class Logistical Support Vessel × 50 ($10 billion)

Total Price: $225,600,000
The Macabees
04-11-2005, 06:43
To: Kreynoria

Welcome to Kriegzimmer, we're glad that you have decided to make a purchase from our catalogue, and we will take this time to guarantee you the quality within our ordnance, and we will respond and completely answer any question that you may hold about anything in our catalogue. Again, if there should be any problems or anything that needs to be cleared up will not hesitate to help you; Kriegzimmer works only for the client.

As for your order, it has been confirmed. The two hundred and forty Hyena anti-tank vehicles, the Incinérateurs, the Lu-12 Canary Tactical Strike Fighter, the Be-23 Archimedes’ Lever Heavy Transport, and the SOV-6s, will all be built, shipped, and will arrive at your closest port city within three months. The Argentine will arrive within twenty-two months, while the Paramounts within twenty-eight months [each taking six months and six different shipyards], the two SSBNs in fourteen months, and the Pepperbox class LSVs within thirty-eight months.

Once again, thank you for your order. You will not be let down, that is our personal policy.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
McKagan
04-11-2005, 16:14
The Imperium has tested our CODEX teams and the weapons we bought from you. Because of it's excellent performance, we would like the production rights for the ATG-44 Anti-Tank Mine and the Tagus Anti-Tank Missile. We will automaticlaly wire the amount needed once it is confirmed.
The Macabees
05-11-2005, 00:10
The Imperium has tested our CODEX teams and the weapons we bought from you. Because of it's excellent performance, we would like the production rights for the ATG-44 Anti-Tank Mine and the Tagus Anti-Tank Missile. We will automaticlaly wire the amount needed once it is confirmed.


To: McKagan

We're glad that our ordnance brough such great ratings from the CODEX trials. The production rights for the ATG-44 and Tagust ATM will be sold for a total of one billion USD. Every paper you can possibly imagine needed will be sent by aircraft to your General Staff Quarters, as this information is to be regarded by us as beyond classified. Thank you for returning to Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Jagada
05-11-2005, 00:26
To: Kriegzimmer Borad
From: The Imperial Ordinance {Religious Imperium of Jagada}

We have been observing your equipment for some time and we have been pleased with our past naval sells from your storefront. As such, we have a rather steep purchase to make. I do hope your industries will be able to produce all of this. Also your prices are based on USD, which by when compared to the Icon doesn't quite match up. 1 Icon = $1.31. As such our forumla is that .31 cents is being taken off each dollar due to the exchange. If you desire to see our forumla or math please ask, or if you see a flaw in it let us know also:

-25.5 million Hali-21 Assault Rifles {23,715,000,000 Icons}

-200,000 155mm Rapid Fire Artillery -Incenerators- {18,600,000,000 Icons}

-100,000 155mm Mobile Artillery {20,150,000,000 Icons}

-375,000 SOV-6 APC {523,125,000,000 Icons}

-5,000 MBTs -Cannot remeber the name- {27,600,000,000 Icons}

-6,000 LBTs -Wolvarine- {6,510,000,000 Icons}


On top of that order we are curious if you'd be willing to supply us with 30,000,000 (30 million) halftracks/supply trucks that your forces use to resupply themselves. We are willing to pay 300 billion for this. That is 10,000 per supply truck.

Total Price (without Halftracks/Supply Trucks): 592,100,000,000 Icons

Total Price (with Halftracks/Supply Trucks): 892,100,000,000 Icons

I do hope you consider our offer. If you desire we will post our budget up here just to ensure you we have the nessecary finances to pay for this rather large purchase.
The Macabees
05-11-2005, 21:04
To: The Imperial Ordinance {Religious Imperium of Jagada}

We're glad that your military found past ordnance purchased from Kriegzimmer as adequet to superb for their needs, and we wish to thank you for this feedback. Your newest order, with the prices included, have been approved, and the confirmed material will make their way to your nearest ports as soon as possible. The assault rifles will come in batches of five hundred thousand per month, completing the order in thirty-one months. All artillery pieces, of whatever type, will be at your ports within two years, while all armored vehicles will be at your ports within the year. We thank you for the purchase.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Halberdgardia
05-11-2005, 21:13
Following the lead of our McKagan counterparts (again), the Halberdgardian Special Forces have found themselves lacking in superior anti-armor ordnance. Therefore, we too wish to purchase the production rights to ATG-44 Anti-Tank Mine and the Tagus Anti-Tank Missile. $1 billion to be wired upon confirmation.
The Macabees
05-11-2005, 21:23
To: The Democratic Imperium

Indeed, we can see that both of the militaries act alike, and respect this. The production rights have been confirmed, and they will be flown to your General Staff Quarters. Thank you for your continued interest within Kriegzimmer.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Rolatia
07-11-2005, 20:53
Greetings,
After remembering all the former equipment we bought from Kriegzimmer and how it is still used as almost the sole equipment in Rolatia, we have decided that it is time to make a purchase, bearing in mind we have a 15% discount due to frequent purchases from your store. We are therefore purchasing 10,000 SOV-06 Infantry Combat Vehicles at a total cost of $38.25 billion (including our discount). We have wired through the money to your account. We thank you, and look forward to these vehicles becoming a vital part of our military
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia
The Macabees
08-11-2005, 07:04
To: Dr J Edwards, Rolatia

We're glad that you have returned to Kriegzimmer once again for your armed force's need. Without hesitation we approve your order. The ten thousand SOV-6 will be sent in batches of five hundred per month, ensuring your order within twenty months. Thank you for the order, once again.

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board
Spizania
08-11-2005, 22:26
OOC: Im not sure if this is out of you rfield o fexpertise, but meh, if you can t do it il have to find someone else to, ive donme some basic maths and i reckon it should be possible to do, and if you use multiple skirts you can make hovercraft cross trenches so here we go

IC:
The Confderacy has found itself lacking in the field of large beach landing vehicles, adn we would like to commision a 1000 thousand (yes thats one thousand) tonne nuclear powered hovercraft, designed ot rush a beach adn provide covering fire (machine guns and chainguns/autocannon) as well as clear beach obstacles adn help push inladn in the early stages of any assault operation.