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Artitsa, that would leave you undefended. ;)

Not at all. I only need to send about 10,000 Tanks, and I wouldn't even send that.

And if you invaded Artitsa, I would defend it, since I have no ground forces in DT. Phyrric, back down or die.

And if you invaded Artitsa, I would defend it, since I have no ground forces in DT. Phyrric, back down or die.

UV is under attack

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2120002#2120002

(game break)

(OOC: I must say this is one of the worst RPs I have ever seen. Never has there been so much "I do this, and you lose", and "Well, I'll just nuke you then!", not to mention "Well, my 10,000 tanks will magically jump over the ocean, create their own supplies and ammunition, and magically annex a country, without any support, or anything". Frankly, its disgusting. Though, I must say the main offender [in my view] is Artista, who magically has such a massive army, that can appear at will, needs no support or supplies, and magically has the capabilities to take down massive numbers of other troops, despite those troops being more technologically advanced. So, thank you for showing me who not to involve in the WoE.

(OOC: I must say this is one of the worst RPs I have ever seen. Never has there been so much "I do this, and you lose", and "Well, I'll just nuke you then!", not to mention "Well, my 10,000 tanks will magically jump over the ocean, create their own supplies and ammunition, and magically annex a country, without any support, or anything". Frankly, its disgusting. Though, I must say the main offender [in my view] is Artista, who magically has such a massive army, that can appear at will, needs no support or supplies, and magically has the capabilities to take down massive numbers of other troops, despite those troops being more technologically advanced. So, thank you for showing me who not to involve in the WoE. [Wars of Expansion])

(OOC: I must say this is one of the worst RPs I have ever seen. Never has there been so much "I do this, and you lose", and "Well, I'll just nuke you then!", not to mention "Well, my 10,000 tanks will magically jump over the ocean, create their own supplies and ammunition, and magically annex a country, without any support, or anything". Frankly, its disgusting. Though, I must say the main offender [in my view] is Artista, who magically has such a massive army, that can appear at will, needs no support or supplies, and magically has the capabilities to take down massive numbers of other troops, despite those troops being more technologically advanced. So, thank you for showing me who not to involve in the WoE.

...My nation is right beside DTs... I share a border with him. If you noticed I was merely mentioning/attempting to scare the other player from attacking. I would obviously create a new thread with me transporting tanks and supplies across the ocean. Using Nukes as a deterent, is just that, a deterent. I clearly was not making an attack, merely stating that I would go through with an attack against that nation if he continues his plans. Also, when did I take down ANY troops? I haven't fired a single bullet. Yet.

Or do you just not understand the concept of detering a fight? like Jeez, I obviously would roleplay my attack and supply columns. If you look in any of my RPs, I always take months for my forces to arrive and I always have supply vessels, Im not a nub as you would suggest.

(OOC: I need to leave the battle, Yurka, Augnista, and Zenti are all being attacked http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92266&start=120 )

IC: "The homeland is under attack, we must return to Yurka immediately, we apologize Dark Terror." The 30 subs and 2 destroyers went back towards Yurka.

In response to the absolute lack of anything going on, all USSS forces are wheeling around and heading straight for Unum Veritas, hoping to strike a decisive blow against Dark Terror elsewhere.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/329267/warmap1.jpg
Bisonic troops in the center are retreating closer towards Brimyal, while holding theirground on the flanks. A mechanized army, as well as some regular motorized forces, totalling around 7500 tanks and about 12,000 APC's and IFV's, are streched out in the area between Brimyal and the coastline.
OOC:
Fluffy, once you accept your center moving slightly forward, since Im trying to imitate a full fledged retreat, Ill get the land war started.

The Veritasean government requests help from any unengaged forces to help fend off the Phyrric attack. Four of the battle groups currently in this conflict have relocated and are headed towards Phyrric to attack his mainland. The other 4 shall remain here (and if I'm slow RPing, they are under DT's control). Another group is headed towards Fluffywuffy to begin attacking key targets on his mainland. But please, any help would be appreciated.

Over 5,000 Artitsan Tanks along with 85,000 Heavy infantry in APCs are amassing along Artitsa's border with DT west of the mountains.

The requests for help have not gone unheard, as Dark Terror has requested its allies TROUSRS and Ardor to send assistance to Unum Veritas, though unfrotunately as of right now some Bisonic, Ardorian, and Artitsan naval units must remain to fight the fluffywuffy ships, which are now alone there.

The Bisonic Coastal Defense Fleet, previously being held in reserve, is being activated. Containing 1,000 EM-100 Fast Attack Missile Boats (OOC: I had a deal with United Elias for 100 every RL week for a while...) armed with the Yakhont-3 SSM, it is one of the most powerful naval units on earth, if only through sheer numbers.

Alright, what do you want my 4 remaining groups and my MOBO to do?

Alright, what do you want my 4 remaining groups and my MOBO to do?
Get ready to blow the hell out of fluffywuffy's ships.

Been ready...

Been ready...
Well once we play his game and the 1,000 missile boats get into position, well see how his SAMs can handle several thousand CM's eh?

Don't forget my 500 cell assault ships as well....

Don't forget my 500 cell assault ships as well....Each missile boat has 4 CM's. So basically yeah hes screwed once those MB's get into position.

Okay, my situation is escalating....I need help as soon as possible. It appears that the war has moved to my waters...

Okay, my situation is escalating....I need help as soon as possible. It appears that the war has moved to my waters...
Coastal missile batteries work great in archipelagos.

Once FW posts, I can start the shredding.

Oh man....I have to wait for him to actually post? I could be waiting for decades...

Oh man....I have to wait for him to actually post? I could be waiting for decades...
OOC:
Once he posts, I can the starts the triple envelopment attack on the ground, and shred his fleets, too. Then sed help to you.

Oh man....I have to wait for him to actually post? I could be waiting for decades...
OOC:
Once he posts, I can the starts the triple envelopment attack on the ground, and shred his fleets, too. Then sed help to you.

You may not be available there DT, I do not think that FW will be that easy to give up unless this ends in an ignore fest like your usual threads go. Your friends are leaving you because they have commitments elsewhere now. Standing alone might be your destiny now and take the beating from FW that you rightly deserve. :twisted:

He's not quite standing alone, in case you haven't noticed. And if we're not careful then the other thread will end up being an ignore fest, seeing as how you've already ignored more than half my navy because you claim I can't have it.

Leaving?! Your joking right? GDU and NJA haven't even been involved. This is a RP, we are keeping people out actually.

Leaving?! Your joking right? GDU and NJA haven't even been involved. This is a RP, we are keeping people out actually.

The NJA? With close ties to UNAOTO, do not think they will act, surprised if they will. Would certainly tarnish the treaties the two organizations have. But hey, what does this aging nation know?

Thus the reasons certain alliances have been left out.

Well If need be.. which is highly unlikely.. bah nevermind.

---Secret Transmission---

To: Everyone against Dark TError
From: Free Bonstocknian High Command

Dear sirs,

We would like to find a covert way to help you. We are in a full scale civil war now, but would love to send forces for a war against dark Terror. We want to do this in secret.

We have developed new technologies that are certain to destroy Dark Terror. They will likely be last resorts for you, as the technology is certain to obliderate all of Dark Terror from the face of the Earth. Please contact us back if you are interested.

Lieutenant General Robert Lung
Secretary of Defense, Republic of Bonstock in Maropian Coast
---End Transmission---

Offical News Network Pauldustllah
AP- Today the Emperor gave the go ahead to deploy troops to fight along side our longstanding Allie Phyrric the number of troops deployed will be the largest ammount allowed under the International troop deployment Clause in the law books in Pauldustllah the total beign 270,000 combat soldiers(810,000 after totallign in support) they will be sent to Phyrric and then be giving orders as to where they are needed. they should be arriving within 5 days.

Offical News Network Pauldustllah
AP- Today the Emperor gave the go ahead to deploy troops to fight along side our longstanding Allie Phyrric the number of troops deployed will be the largest ammount allowed under the International troop deployment Clause in the law books in Pauldustllah the total beign 270,000 combat soldiers(810,000 after totallign in support) they will be sent to Phyrric and then be giving orders as to where they are needed. they should be arriving within 5 days.

welcome aboard

i noticed that you all were looking for someone to help you keep track of the batlle loses and stat, if you don't mind i would like to offer my services in that field

OOC:
Until fluffywuffy posts, time can either stand still or I can launch the mass attack anyway.

OOC: I vote we move to mass attack.

OOC:
Yeah, Im tired of waiting. Triple envelopment attack time. Map and IC post comng soon.

BTW, please redirect any naval units sent to help me to help Unum Veritas.

You don't need help finishing off fluffywuffy?

You don't need help finishing off fluffywuffy?Not at the moment.

As of right now, a double envelopment attack has been begun by the 3rd Mechanized army, supplemented by portions of the 4th Mechanized army sent by train and plane from Kamrov, as well as regular Motorized units stationed in the area, using BMT-90 Heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicles, as well as *extremely* heavily upgraded T-55's, T-62's, and T-64's (OOC: By extremely I mean all of them have 125mm ETC guns, shtora and arena, and the Kaktus 3rd generation ERA, as well as turret mounted ATGM's). Any piece of artillery capable of being moved to the area has been sent, mainly by train or helicopter. Firing guided Kransnopol laser guided rounds, they are capable of knocking out enemy tanks at 22km with forwards spooters.

The main thrusts are from Ardor and near the Artitsan border, both aimed at smashing through the Fluffywuffy flanks and surrounding Fluffywuffy troops, from where they can be ripped apart by artillery and airpower. A total of around 10,000 tanks, 17,500 APC's/IFV's, and thousands of artillery systems are participating (OOC: Around 75% of it was based at Brimyal already, some reinforcements were brought in). 500 AH-70 and 500 KL-60 Low observability attack helicopters have been brought in to supplement the Mi-35M's, Mi-28M's, and Mi-40M's used by Bisonic troops in the area. 390 M113A3's fitted with ERA and a 30mm gun have been brought in as well.

Map (curved lines are the major thrusts)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2037025#2037025

BTW, please redirect any naval units sent to help me to help Unum Veritas.OOC: How many ships from the "dead meat" side hehe are left by DT.

BTW, please redirect any naval units sent to help me to help Unum Veritas.OOC: How many ships from the "dead meat" side hehe are left by DT.Every single one, as fluffywuffy hasnt posted his fleet doing anything yet.

No one has taken any loses except for fluffywuffy.. which are major I beleive..

Every single one, as fluffywuffy hasnt posted his fleet doing anything yet.No, some of them have left. I was wondering how many have left.

The 24 Arsenal Ships in the UV fleet off DT's coast have unleashed their first salvo of missiles, totalling 75 cruise missiles, all heading towards Fluffywuffy's forces. Another 75 missile salvo will follow immediately after.

I am back (again). I havent read all of the new stuff (the last 5 pages havent been read by me yet) but from what i saw, my army is being bombed, my PTs are being raped (I wanted them to die), a large tank war is about to take place, and Niancio and Dark Terror are arguing about an armor that doesnt exist.

Someone said that I go away and make a large post, leave, and come back. That is not normaly the case, but I have switched to other classes and almost all of them have like 20 hours of homework (all of it over the week end).

Weekends=I probably wont be here
Weekdays=I probably will be here but will be here about 5:30(ish) US central time

Now that that is cleared up....*switches to war mode*

Quote from (my) Commander Hall of the PT forces: "Damn subs! They've sunk over 20 ships. Too bad none of our torpedoes or guns can hit them or we'd give them hell"...at a later time..."This must be the first large scale patrol boat battle. Give them hell! I want us in those history books as winners!"

Total PT losses:
78 ships (wow that went up :D )

As for the ground war.....

I must describe the actual landing site some. It has a single, long hill with a few ways up onto it. Towards the rear of the hill is the makeshift air field. The forward areas of the hill contain tanks, troops, IFVs, etc while the area behind that vontain all artilery and many support vehicles. Carriers (of mine) can hit anywhere around the hill, as can any of the AEGIS armed warships.

edit: cant forget the sea war!

The carrier groups now decide to hit back at the enemy themselves.
The AEGIS armed ships succesfully intercept the cruise missles and return fire at the Unum Veritas fleet with a salvo of 200 missles. A small group of 20 F-14s move to bomb the Unum Veritas missle ships

((Welcome back!))

We would like you to notice you are in range of our coastal batteries, but no shots have been fired. You are warned to not enter Artitsan waters.

If I am not mistaken, you set up SAM batteries...am I right?

You may not be available there DT, I do not think that FW will be that easy to give up unless this ends in an ignore fest like your usual threads go. Your friends are leaving you because they have commitments elsewhere now. Standing alone might be your destiny now and take the beating from FW that you rightly deserve. We will not surrender to your weak propaganda! You will fall, scum!

We stand with Dark Terror.

Submarines have begun attacking the carrier groups. The Tlaloc over the FluffyFleet begins firing anti-missles at the cruise missles, and the Duke class launches all 45 of its fighters to intercept the bombers. The Tlaloc then begins heavy bombardment of the FW fleet.

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The Commander of the Duke Class, Arnold Alston, stands. "We will fight to the death, but WE....WILL...NEVER...SURRENDER!!"

Mapalgetia, I believe you don't have forces there.

So, you just appeared? Or are you from an earlier page I didnt read? And what the hell is a "Tlaloc"?

Yeah, Mapalgetia, you need to send your fleet first please.

Anyway, FluffyWuffy, I've been building a defencive wall. I never needed to mention my Anti-Shipping defences on my coast. I already had 2 thousand SAM sites, I just added 10,000 to them because Im scared of being annexed by Phyrric lol.

OOC: My bad, this is the JAC, I posted as Mapalgetia, my puppet. One second...

SAM=Surface to Air Missle

Lots of damage ships and land forces will take....brb in maybe an hour...got to get a haircut

My Planes are Refeuling and Filling up with more Bombs. I lost 5 F-14's in the first raids.

So no one is touching my ships? Good.

Thats because we all love Nianacio.

Psst... buy some ships of mine at my ShipStore!

*This has been a blatent ad*

Thats because we all love Nianacio.I thought so! Wouldn't your people just love to become part of Nianacio?
*Mumbles something*
Many transports are leaving Nianacio in the general direction of DT. Guarded by five more carrier groups.
****... *** **** ***** ** **** ** ** *********!

*This has been CENSORED!1oneshift+one*

OOC:
Fluffy, I though you went past the landing site. If not, all those tanks, troop;s, and artillery systems are assaulting your landing site with 120 Su-39M ground attack aircraft and a few hundred Su-37MK's and MiG-35M's providing air cover at any given time.
IC:
AS-17 Krypton anti-radiation missiles are being launched at FLuffywuffy SAM sites (they go mach 3.5 and have a 90% hit rate), as Bisonic Troops smash into the Fluffywuffy beachhead, well supported by artillery. Artitsan troops are aobut to swing down to assist in this operaiton as well.

Meanwhile, the Bisonic fleet is moving to just within 500km of the Fluffywuffy fleet, as Mo-1 Maritime Strike Aircraft (more or less stealthy making avoiding missiles easier but not uber stealthy invisible flying craft of doom, of course, fitted with ECM and 300 mile range radars..), a total of 72, are launched, each armed with 4 Yakhont-4 SSM's, which have a low RCS and are mach 2 sea skimmers with a range of 500km.

ooc: No, my people are pretty happy being Artitsan.

The Artitsan generals see their opertune time. The Armoured force that has been sitting to the north launches a Blitzkrieg south into the landing beach in tandem with the Force assaulting from DT. SS-101's strafe positions, losing several to SAMs, but Hundreds still cloud the skies, dropping bombs on the beleagured defenders below.

And this is where the lovely part comes in. The Bisonic fleet begins heading at flank speed, away from the fluffywuffy fleet, to the south.

"Sir, the Bisonic ships have turned south."
"To counter our transports? He objects to expansionism?"
"Unconfirmed, sir."
"Well, start the barrage."
"All the cruise missiles? And then, sir?"
"How many ships does DT have?"
"Unconfirmed, sir." How many are you sending south?
"Get me numbers. A naval defeat would not be acceptable, would it?"
"No, sir. What shall I do when I have the information you desire?"
"Tell me and I'll come right back with orders to move the fleet. Now go get that barrage started!"
"Yes, sir.

"All the cruise missiles" = over 4,800
Targets: trains that might be used to bring in reinforcements, bunkers, anything else I'm in range (over 1,000km) that's worthy of a missile, but particularly SSM and SAM sites along the coast
And this is where the lovely part comes in. The Bisonic fleet begins heading at flank speed, away from the fluffywuffy fleet, to the south.I wanna know why!

To aid Unum Veritas.

Since you have no nukes (OOC: If this is incorrect, Ignore the following), Dark Terror is simply firing all of its hundreds of nuclear cruise missiles at the Nianancian fleet. Bye-bye!

How much ships? 150 cap ships and 1000 missile boats. Whats left, they will destroy.

(launching CM's at SAM sites borders on the idiotic)
As the CIWS and SAM systems on the coast picked off almost everything going their way (remember, ADT radar can detect sea skimmers) with some nuclear SAMs tossed in for good measure (OOC: Ignore if I was incorrect about you having no nukes), the coastal SSM sites suffered relatively low losses, being stationed next to the SAMs and CIWS. Railways suffered more losses, despite the "SAM trains" patrolling them. A few tunnels were hit, but being run by the Bisonic Military and protected by nice thick armor (unless these are bunker buster missiles..), only a couple were destoryed. Damage to the Bisonic War Effort is quite insignificant, since Nianancio also shouldve known SAM sites and SSM sites are mobile, and once the missiles were detected, they simply either moved away or shot them down.

Since you have no nukes (OOC: If this is incorrect, Ignore the following)I was going to get nukes, but I forgot to create the thread. :|
Dark Terror is simply firing all of its hundreds of nuclear cruise missiles at the Nianancian fleet. Bye-bye!OOC: A few hundred nuclear cruise missiles? Cruise missiles are slow. My ships (the ones by DT) together have at least 400 CIWS and 10,800 SAMs (I haven't created the stats for the cruisers, but they have at least as many weapons as the destroyers, so whenever I need them to do something, I pretend they have the same weapons as the destroyers.). Hundreds of nukes would typically be up to 999. 10,800+400/999=11.211... There are over 11 weapon systems to fire at each cruise missile (not counting AAMs carried by patroling fighters), and lets not forget countermeasures and jammers. It seems to me that I shouldn't take many if any casualties, so I suppose a few destroyers should be sunk.
How much ships? 150 cap ships and 1000 missile boats. Whats left, they will destroy.Are they heading for my homeland, for the transports, or to hit the ships at DT?
Damage to the Bisonic War Effort is quite insignificant, since Nianancio also shouldve known SAM sites and SSM sites are mobile, and once the missiles were detected, they simply either moved away or shot them down.SAM and SSM sites are not always mobile and can not drive at over Mach 0.5.

No, they can just move and watch the GPS cuided CM's smash into where they used to be. Most would be shot to pieces, anyway.

As for you shooting down all the CM's- thats fine, my fleet has similar amounts of SAMs. My fleet is heading at your fleet, with 60 S-1900 "Stealth" (not invisible just more effective chaff and the like) corvettes, 25 Nanuchka VI corvettes, and 70 Scorpion "stealth" missile boats coming from Ardor in another direction. Air support rovided by "stealthy" Mo-1 maritime stirke aircraft.

"Sir?"
"You have numbers for their fleet? Do you know where they're going?"
"Yes, sir. There are about 150 capital ships and over 1,000 smaller ships. They're headed toward us."
"Maintain a minimum distance of 300 kilometers from their ships. Cycle through the combatants so each gets a chance to fire anti-ship missiles. Keep doing so until either we run out of missiles or they're all dead. I want ships with missiles ready to fire at the front at all times. Do they have many aircraft?"
"Sir, they appear to have some sort of aircraft in the air, but their signatures are too low to get a lock."
"So we're going to have to gun 'em down. First, double the number of fighters in the air. Then have the fighter patrols already up there approach them from what they deem to be the safest angles and fire with guns."
"Sir, that's suicide..."
"Our fighters are stealthy, too. They'll have to do the same to us."
"Yes, sir."
"And tell them to land as soon as they're done"
"Yes, sir, if there are any left..."

No, they can just move and watch the GPS cuided CM's smash into where they used to be. Most would be shot to pieces, anyway.I didn't expect them to do much damage, anyway.
As for you shooting down all the CM's- thats fine, my fleet has similar amounts of SAMs.Okay.
My fleet is heading at your fleetThe one by DT, I assume. I have lots more back home.
with 60 S-1900 "Stealth" (not invisible just more effective chaff and the like) corvettes, 25 Nanuchka VI corvettes, and 70 Scorpion "stealth" missile boats coming from Ardor in another direction. Air support rovided by "stealthy" Mo-1 maritime stirke aircraft.Those are in addition to the 150 capital ships? It looks like our fleets are about even (except I don't have swarms of little craft)...

OOC: I have to figure out how many fighters I have in the air...Um...between 100 and 250, I guess.

---Secret Transmission---

To: Everyone against Dark TError
From: Free Bonstocknian High Command

Dear sirs,

We would like to find a covert way to help you. We are in a full scale civil war now, but would love to send forces for a war against dark Terror. We want to do this in secret.

We have developed new technologies that are certain to destroy Dark Terror. They will likely be last resorts for you, as the technology is certain to obliderate all of Dark Terror from the face of the Earth. Please contact us back if you are interested.

Lieutenant General Robert Lung
Secretary of Defense, Republic of Bonstock in Maropian Coast
---End Transmission---

ooc: can i do a secret help, flufywuffy and artisa?

OOC:
Didnt know you had fleets there... mind you I wouldve certainly detected them, just didnt realize it.

Maropian- Sending spec ops is more suicidal than difficult, we have sattelite technology that lets us detect the displacements your subs cause. Theyre not very exact in location, so our answer is to fire cruise missiles carrying nuclear depth charges to aobut where the sub is and just vaporize it.
IC:
The Bisonic fleet, or its main portion, turns away from the incoming Nianancian fleet, maintaining a distance of about 450 km, as both land based MiG-35M and carrier based Su-37MK fighters are scrambled to engage the Nianancian fighters. The Mo-1's fly over the Bisonic fleet at 405km, and are the first to launch missiles at the Nianancians, a total of 288 Yakhont-4 Low RCS sea skimming curise missiles (speed of mach 2/mach 2.5 final burst, and armored against 20mm CIWS).

Um... Im on DT's side.

"Sir, the Bisonic fleet is keeping us about four hundred fifty kilometers out."
"Out of range of our ASMs...in mixed altitude mode. If they're going to keep us that far out, we might as well stay six hundred kilometers away."
"Should I give the order, sir?"
"Yes. What's that siren?!"
"A mass of incoming missiles, sir."
"How many?!"
"I don't know, but it appears that the air defense systems are having trouble targeting them."
"Turn the six-inchers toward it and fire one flechette burst from each destroyer -- NOW!"
*The orders are passed on*
"Sir, they also have fighters in the air."
"How many?"
"That is unconfirmed, sir."
"The morons had to go past four hundred kilometers!"
*The higher ranking officer pounds his desk*
"Launch more fighters!"
"How many, sir?"
"One hundred. Fill the weapons bays with MAAMs, put two LAAMs and four ASMs underneath, and two wing-tip SAAMs. Fire at will. ASMs mixed altitude."
"Yes, sir."
The LAAMs will be launched at your fighters at a bit beyond 300km, and the ASMs at your ships at 300km.

OOC:
Didnt know you had fleets there... mind you I wouldve certainly detected them, just didnt realize it.OOC: Oh. Was this meant to be a fight against the ships back at my homeland?
as both land based MiG-35M and carrier based Su-37MK fighters are scrambled to engage the Nianancian fighters.How many? I decided there were 100 fighters in the air to start with.
The Mo-1's fly over the Bisonic fleet at 405km, and are the first to launch missiles at the Nianancians, a total of 288 Yakhont-4 Low RCS sea skimming curise missiles (speed of mach 2/mach 2.5 final burst, and armored against 20mm CIWS).Do my flechette rounds have any effect on them?

Also am I, I need to get my bombers running again. DT, which fleet shall they be used on?

OOC:
They might, but I forgot to mention these are directed only at the carriers.

How much fighters? 120 from the carriers, and as much from the airports.
IC:
"Comrade Admiral, the AWACS is finding them scrambling their own fighters, or something very similar" (OOC: My naval AWACS have 450km radar range..)
" Very well. Order our carriers to scramble more Sukhoi jets (OOC: 96 more), with other being placed on the Alert 5 and Alert 15 readiness levels"
"Yes, sir"

The already airborne fighters flew at the Nianancian fighters, hoping to intercept them with their 225km ranged AA-13M AAM's, and failing that, to intercept the cruise missiles themselves.

Also am I, I need to get my bombers running again. DT, which fleet shall they be used on?
Send them to help Unum Veritas, theres a thread about it on page 1 or 2 (Phyrric attacks Unum veritas"

Well I really don't wanna get involved in another war. I'd rather wait until this one is done before I go wondering around for more action.

Well I really don't wanna get involved in another war. I'd rather wait until this one is done before I go wondering around for more action.
Then send your fleet to fight Nianancios fleet...

"Sir, they're launching more fighters."
"Then so shall we. Launch seventy-five more. Same ordnance and mission as last time."

OOC:
They might, but I forgot to mention these are directed only at the carriers.OOC: They'd have to get past the destroyers to get to the carriers, anyway.
How much fighters? 120 from the carriers, and as much from the airports.BIC: All but fifteen of the attacking fighters are downed immediately.
The already airborne fighters flew at the Nianancian fighters, hoping to intercept them with their 225km ranged AA-13M AAM's, and failing that, to intercept the cruise missiles themselves.OOC: The batch of fighters I launched in the last post? I get 200 missiles off before you do. How many missiles do your fighters launch after my 200 are launched at 300km?

OOC:
Theyre launching AAM's at you... not ASM's. If youre launching 300km range ASM's theydve launched their AAM's as the two groups wouldve been coming closer to each other very quickly.

OOC:
Theyre launching AAM's at you... not ASM's. If youre launching 300km range ASM's theydve launched their AAM's as the two groups wouldve been coming closer to each other very quickly.OOC: I'm launching AAMs and ASMs at about 300km...AAMs first.
Russian AAM tech=Good to copy 8)
Secret IC: The ABM sats above TATA are being repositioned near DT.

OOC:
Unless you did a few ugrades, 300km AAM's simply arent agile enough to do crap to my fighters. If you can explain how you made them otherwise (I had a rather simple method), youll do better.

Um... Im on DT's side. :oops: sorry, i must have read something wrong... not much time

Maropian- Sending spec ops is more suicidal than difficult, we have sattelite technology that lets us detect the displacements your subs cause. Theyre not very exact in location, so our answer is to fire cruise missiles carrying nuclear depth charges to aobut where the sub is and just vaporize it.

We inserted them when Belem was around invading you. They're wandering about in your country because we landed in Belem territory. Some groups attacked some supply depots... what were the casualties and the affect on your supply chain?

And in ic you have no idea they're from us...

ic: The squad of special ops boys ran around, looking for a new target. They saw one... a supply convoy. A bunch of supply trucks and oil tankers, headed straight for the combat zone, carrying supplies to the Dark Terror war effort. The men knew it was risky. Those soldiers must have some nasty AKs. And tons of tanks and fighters would be on them. But that was the point... even if it did not keep Dark Terror's tank's gasless, they would keep their forces would be distracted. If best, half of the tanks would be onto them, which would be wonderful for Fluffywuffy. They remembered an old story of how 5 million German troops were once tied down in World War II by a group of 76 escaping Allied POWs. Those troops could well have been used in Russia or France. The group of special forces was armed, and larger. Perhaps history could repeat on a larger scale. Though it was known that only 3 of the prisoners ever made it out of Germany, and 50 were executed, the number of troops tied down came at critical times: only a few months later, the Germans decisivly lost the Battle of Kursk. Now history was put to the test. The men placed in a row of mines which would only detonate when they pressed a button. The convoy would blow, especially the gas trucks. The fire would burn for days. All precautions were taken. Anyone passing before the convoy was grabbed from the back, and quickly had a knife in their throats. To engineers walked up... Their throats were slit quickly using this Bonstocknian tactic. Their bodies were cast into the forest to rot. The knife made no noise; the men made no screams. No attantion was attracted. Then the convoy drew close. The leader signaled to prepare to fire. Clad in one of the dead engineer's uniforms, carrying his assault rifle, he signaled to the weapons officers. Dropping down into the bushes, they waited until the convoy was passing... then the weapons officers pressed the button...

ooc: Dark Terror I've taken so many precautions that its not even funny. There is no getting out of posting losses. I know you'll say "but I had engineers on the roads looking ofr mines!" "I had lookouts waiting for you!" I dont want to hear it. Post losses; this is only a small attack.

OOC:
belem never existed, so you never landed any spec ops. Git it?

OOC:
Unless you did a few ugrades, 300km AAM's simply arent agile enough to do crap to my fighters. If you can explain how you made them otherwise (I had a rather simple method), youll do better.OOC:
Let's see...
[removed...hahahaha...]
Is that good enough for ya?

OOC:
:shock:
Yes, we just gave ours thrust vectoring and fold out forward swept wings to use at the last minute!

MIG-35M has a rather low RCS, making chaff more effective, Su-37MK is "reduced observability", comparable to the Su-34, MiG-29SMT, or a cruise missile in RCS. Same thing to a lesser degree. Its also extremely agile.
IC:
Losses:
27 MiG-35M
52 Su-37MK

OOC:
:shock:
Yes, we just gave ours thrust vectoring and fold out forward swept wings to use at the last minute!OOC: I go into a LOT of detail and do a LOT of research on everything I build (which is why I'm so reluctant to give out details - I've spent lots of time designing everything I have, and I don't want someone copying my stuff and wasting the time I spent :cry:). That's why I haven't bothered with cruiser specs, yet. I've managed to squeeze 78 lines on each page of my main military document, and the LAAM takes up 24, or 31% of a page with minimal top and bottom margins.
Losses:
27 MiG-35M
52 Su-37MKSo how many missiles do those left in the air launch when they get in range?

They got into range before being hit by the missiles, so they launched a total of 500.

My Legions never left the landing site (I dont think I rped them moving at all except for getting defenses up).
The site is very close to my navy. My navy will intercept your fighters at a range of 200 miles and not break a sweat.

Ok, now I assume my PT boats (or whats left of them) are in your fleet; its hard to go 90 miles per hour for several days and not end up somewhere. The (82) of them are now firing torpedoes at your fleet and are (probably) going to die soon.

In the air, I think I sent F-14s out to go bomb someones navy. They have now returned to the fleet from thier raid.

My Legions never left the landing site (I dont think I rped them moving at all except for getting defenses up).
The site is very close to my navy. My navy will intercept your fighters at a range of 200 miles and not break a sweat.

Ok, now I assume my PT boats (or whats left of them) are in your fleet; its hard to go 90 miles per hour for several days and not end up somewhere. The (82) of them are now firing torpedoes at your fleet and are (probably) going to die soon.

In the air, I think I sent F-14s out to go bomb someones navy. They have now returned to the fleet from thier raid.

My Legions never left the landing site (I dont think I rped them moving at all except for getting defenses up).
The site is very close to my navy. My navy will intercept your fighters at a range of 200 miles and not break a sweat.

Ok, now I assume my PT boats (or whats left of them) are in your fleet; its hard to go 90 miles per hour for several days and not end up somewhere. The (82) of them are now firing torpedoes at your fleet and are (probably) going to die soon.

In the air, I think I sent F-14s out to go bomb someones navy. They have now returned to the fleet from thier raid.

dammit...3 posts! damn errors

"Missiles in the air!"
"Counter, counter," said the fighter's computer system.
The pilot of the jet obeyed the computer and pushed his aircraft into a series of steep climbs and dives to avoid the missiles. It looked like a strange bird gliding through the air, moving its tail to change direction; the plane had a unique design for high stealth and maneuverability.
Letnano Liem was a novice pilot and left his aircraft in a low-stealth position too long.
His jet was hit and quickly started spinning uncontrollably toward the ocean...or was the ocean rising up to meet him?
Inside the cockpit, Liem pulled the eject handle. For a moment, he was whipped around by the air, but then the first parachute opened and straightened him out.
He looked around and saw he was not the only pilot hanging from strings. Perhaps it was not his fault that the missile hit his jet. There were hundreds of missiles in the air, and only one hundred jets for them to hit. Even a stealth jet can't escape five missiles at one time.

All the jets are downed.

OOC:
NO DAMN PT BOATS LEFT! THEY GOT ATTACKED BY SUBS, NAVAL GUNS, 120 GROUND ATTACK AIRCRAFT, AND MISSILES! HOW DID ANY SURVIVE?
IC;
Oh well, a total of 12,000 tanks, 150,000 troops, and 25,000 APC's and IFV's from the Bisonic and Artitsan armies is smashing into the beachhead, well supported by artillery and aerial units. You could try launching cruise missiles at individual tanks form your navy, but that wont do you much good.

160 PT boats moving at 90 mph being attacked by 30-40 mph subs. Naval guns: even with radar, by the time you fire my ship is gone
Missles:So you mean to say that you can get missle locks on small, 6 crew wooden boats? They are also powered by a secial hydrogen/electric hybrid engine. Few heat signatures (can switch to electric)

EDIT: Now to counter attack

The 20 A-10 IIs take off to assist the defending troops. Each is armed with a (forgot exact rating)gun that is capable of killing tanks. Now we add the various missles/rockets under the wings and you can guess the rest.

The straff your column of tanks while firing rockets.

The MRLSs use radar to pinpoint the location of your artilery (using the shot fired) and return fire at your artilery and then move to another spot before taking shots into your mass army with thier rockets.

Two harriers take off from the field and bomb your line with a cluster bomb system (i need the name...it was used in the Falkland island war)
that drops mini bomblets.

10 Apache helicopters engage enemy tanks

The line is holding for now...120 men lost with 10 tanks

At 65 RPM per gun, the boats would sink some of em. Then theres the 120 attack aircraft (like A-10's but 16 ATGM's being used against these...)

OOC: When you guys are done arguing, my jets shoot the rest of your jets out of the sky...er, I mean, launch more missiles (that's only if your jets keep speeding in the direction of my fleet where the aircraft that are guarding it and weren't involved in the attack can get them).
DT vs. NIA
161 vs. 175

....would sink some of em....
A-10 like aircraft would be no good against these.....too small a target and too many over too much space. Besides...you must factor in that battles almost never end up with 100% of an enemy dead....these guys will die,(they are kamikazi-ish) but not all of them will die before your ships. As of now, 20 have made it into your navy and are firing. ANother 2 will. the rest are dead

OOC-Attack helis would probably work well, DT. I have some if you don't.

OOC:
Yes, they will all die. The Su-39M's have 5000 rpm cannons and ATGM's, theoretically EACH could sink 16 of our boats! THEY ARE ALL DEAD.

These arent T-55's for you to kill, either. They have enough armor to survive the 30mm DU rounds. The GT-1's, anyways.
IC:
As the BRDM-3 recce vehicles launch their Igla-S SAMs at the Apaches, GT-2 tanks, IFV's, and APC's begin blowing up in the forward assault units, with a total of 34 tanks and 62 IFV's+APC's being destroyed. The Artillery aimed at is knocked out by the MLRS, however Smerch-M MLRS systems, with their 90km range, begin providing counterbattery fire on th FLuffywuffy MLRS systems. More systems are to be brought in by train.

EDIT (forgot to add): Pantsir-S1 and Tunguska SAM units travelling with the attack units open fire on the Warthogs with their SAM's and 30mm AAA, while Su-37MK's are scrambled to engage the A-10's.

How can each theoreticly sink 16? Its not like the PTs are actualy going to make any differance either way. Your ships are double hulled, and can stand up to the hit. You might be stuck, but your other ships will save the *2* wounded ships.

Having moved out of the way (as RPed), the MRLSs are largely unharmed; however, 5 have been knocked out with another 2 wounded.
THey practice another shoot and scoot manuveur

Line is still holding as you are in a narrow area and thus cannot exploit your numbers.

another 120 men (240 men total) and another 10 tanks (20 tanks) are lost.

edit: I forgot to say that all my helis are dead, your missles got my A-10s (cept one)

Oh and, to lighten the mood, A dancing cow has walked into the middle of the fight and is well...dancing

OOC:
Easy, each has 16 ATGM's, and dont tell me your little 90 MPH PT boats have enough armor to survive! I might not lock on but Ill locate them, and then 450 MPH planes can blow them to hell! I can afford to have 1 plane per each boat here!

Also, mind a link or an explanation of how this radar MLRS thing works? Just asking
IC:
The Smerches, having caught on, also calmly flee after firing at the Fluffywuffy MLRS systems, as field commanders call for an airstrike containing Su-39M's, Mo-2 carpet bombers (OOC: low rcs planes), and Su-37MK's armed with anti radiation missiles of the Kh-31P (As-17 krypton) variant, as well as AAM's.

ooc: You are on Dark Terror land, you do not make up the landscape. Simple. Also, I have hundreds of SS-101's in the air. Your Warthogs are dead, I also have SS-102 interceptors too, and your being hit in the flank by roughly 2000 tanks of mine. GT-1 tanks could down Apaches with their ATGMs.

ic: The SS-101's spotted the MLR's moving below. The began their attack run, sweeping in low and fast, fireing their 4 Pak40's into the soft MLRs, and dropping their 400lb bombs on top. Above SS-102's held the skies. 12 T-80UM6's (GT-1's) were knocked out. Several tanks fired their ATGM's at the Apaches, as 38 Hind-35M's swept above to elimnate any ground forces.

On the ground, Dark Terror's solution for the Fluffyuwffy MLRS systems is to simply use upgraded BM-21 Grad MLRS systems, which are little more than an MLRS on a truck. Previously being held in reserve, but equipped with large numbers (OOC: due to light weight and ease of manyfacture), several hundred upgraded Grad's open fire on the Fluffywuffy positions at 35km range with 122mm rockets.

ooc: You are on Dark Terror land, you do not make up the landscape. Simple. Also, I have hundreds of SS-101's in the air. Your Warthogs are dead, I also have SS-102 interceptors too, and your being hit in the flank by roughly 2000 tanks of mine. GT-1 tanks could down Apaches with their ATGMs.


OOC:
Let him, I have solutions to his problems and brute force will solve this problem.

Ill get you a link hold on...(will be online but getting you the link)

Ill get you a link hold on...(will be online but getting you the link)
OOC:
Thanks. Of course, next time I fire artillery, anti radiation missiles will follow!
IC:
As some batteries of D-130 122mm Howitzers firing laser guided Kitolov-2 rounds, Su-37MK's armed with their mach 3.5 anti-radiation missiles fire off 20 Kh-31P's.

Will take awhile....got over 30 things to look through to find the damn systems name...

Darkterror: my forces are at your disposal. All 4 fleets are standing by...... the carriers contain a mixed bag of super hornets, my advanced tech planes, and don't forget the "special" forces inside carrier 2 fleet 2. The snipers should be dug in well, and the tanks and artillery are ready to go. The advanced tech fighters are armed with anti ship weapons, and are standing by at your central base. I have my b1's also on stand by at your base.i will be out for a while.

Darkterror: my forces are at your disposal. All 4 fleets are standing by...... the carriers contain a mixed bag of super hornets, my advanced tech planes, and don't forget the "special" forces inside carrier 2 fleet 2. The snipers should be dug in well, and the tanks and artillery are ready to go. The advanced tech fighters are armed with anti ship weapons, and are standing by at your central base. I have my b1's also on stand by at your base.i will be out for a while.What does each fleet have? They can help my group of corvettes attack Nianancio from his South...

Your tanks are being held in reserve, now its all out assault against fluffywufyf.

I've got a link to a referance to an Isreali radar guided artilery that automaticly locates and returns fire

Long ass link: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Radar+guided+artillery&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=UrURuuY_6AM%40clari.net&rnum=10

Has nothing of interest accept that you see that the news guy referances the Isreali system....now to find the systems name

Got another link...its for the COBRA weapon locatng system
http://www.euroart-cobra.de/
I have also found out that your anti-radiation missles can be effective against these things (the radar that is).
I also found that Ticonderoga (I think) have counter-battery radars....so tey can be the ones to direct my artilery fire

seeya guys tommorow

OOC:
belem never existed, so you never landed any spec ops. Git it?

...Belem fell into the sea

*Cough* Belem existed... you said he fell into the sea after he ignored you. Stop whining and RP for once.

ooc: I've almost had it with Dark Terror. I should just use him as a testing ground for my ultimate bomb...

ic:

---Secret Transmission---
To: Fluffywuffy
From: Agent "Deepthroat," operating in Dark Terror

Flufflywuffy, Free Bonstock have a huge bomb that can be used to forever put an end to Dark Terror and his allies. The bomb, based on nuclear fusion rather then fission of conventional nukes, may be a bit large, but it can destroy Dark Terror in one shot. Ask me if you want it...

---End---

ooc: I've almost had it with Dark Terror. I should just use him as a testing ground for my ultimate bomb...

ic:

---Secret Transmission---
To: Fluffywuffy
From: Agent "Deepthroat," operating in Dark Terror

Flufflywuffy, Free Bonstock have a huge bomb that can be used to forever put an end to Dark Terror and his allies. The bomb, based on nuclear fusion rather then fission of conventional nukes, may be a bit large, but it can destroy Dark Terror in one shot. Ask me if you want it...

---End---

Your agent is dead. Simple. you sent information to the wrong nation, and This agent would have been activly searched for.

ooc: the man is posing as a Communist Bonstocknian worker in the embassy of Russian Forces. If he's caught, RF will "see to it" that he is sent back to Bonstock, which has been taken over by communism. Maropian Coast (Free Bonstock), remember, is in a civil war with Communist controlled Bonstock. There is no way to tell who's communist and who's with the government, even in a foreign city.

so, Fluffywuffy, do you want the bomb or not? I really want to test it on Dark Terror as revenge for something he did to me, and as an example for future nations; heavily godmod, forget how to RP, and you WILL be killed.

Thanks for telling us, I'll just beef up the defense on my anti-missle department. And you can't just say ultimate bomb. Give is stats.

Use it and I will destroy your nation. Don't think I won't.

DT, I now have nukes.
Do you still want to nuke my navy? :twisted:

OOC;
With SDI rated against 6800 ICBM's, wouldnt think twice about it (you also have SDI, so it will be kinda pointless).

Maropian coast- ignore me, I dont give a fuck. Belem never existed, now bye!

OOC;
With SDI rated against 6800 ICBM's, wouldnt think twice about it (you also have SDI, so it will be kinda pointless).

Maropian coast- ignore me, I dont give a fuck. Belem never existed, now bye!

Also, unless you get nice long articles on your bomb, Im ignoring it.

OOC;
With SDI rated against 6800 ICBM's, wouldnt think twice about it (you also have SDI, so it will be kinda pointless).OOC: You said you would nuke my navy if I didn't have any nukes of my own...

OOC;
With SDI rated against 6800 ICBM's, wouldnt think twice about it (you also have SDI, so it will be kinda pointless).OOC: You said you would nuke my navy if I didn't have any nukes of my own...
OOC:
True.. oh well then Artitsa can nuke it!

There are more ways than ICBMs and Cruisemissles my friend. 2 new Artitsan Carrier fleets emerge from seperate harbours; Kien and Mitalinsk.

Meanwhile voting is taking place to move the country capital to Kien from Harken.

oh well then Artitsa can nuke it!Yay for Artitsa, magic n00k dude of the universe...
There are more ways than ICBMs and Cruisemissles my friend.Yep.
2 new Artitsan Carrier fleets emerge from seperate harbours; Kien and Mitalinsk.Are they going to UV?
Meanwhile voting is taking place to move the country capital to Kien from Harken.Why?

OOC:
BTW, feel free to withdraw your fleet.

oh well then Artitsa can nuke it!Yay for Artitsa, magic n00k dude of the universe...
There are more ways than ICBMs and Cruisemissles my friend.Yep.
2 new Artitsan Carrier fleets emerge from seperate harbours; Kien and Mitalinsk.Are they going to UV?
Meanwhile voting is taking place to move the country capital to Kien from Harken.Why?
ooc:
1. Ouch man, very ouch.
2. Like my new project I'll tell ya about in a second.
3. No, UV is being ignored now. All my fleets are returning home. These two are moving out to perhaps counter your fleet?
4. Harken doesn't have a route to water, Kien does... besides I like Kien better.

OOC:
UV being ignored? Eh?

OOC:
1. Ouch man, very ouch.It wasn't an insult. It was...I don't know what it was...Hmmm...
2. Like my new project I'll tell ya about in a second.*Waits*
3. No, UV is being ignored now. All my fleets are returning home. These two are moving out to perhaps counter your fleet?Hmmm...
4. Harken doesn't have a route to water, Kien does... besides I like Kien better.Ah...
OOC:
BTW, feel free to withdraw your fleet.Will you give me money IC? I like money...

OOC:
For staying neutral, Id load your pockets with cash!

OOC:
For staying neutral, Id load your pockets with cash!

I remember when we rid the world of The Bisons, the nation before dark terror.

ahhhhh.

OOC:
For staying neutral, Id load your pockets with cash!OOC: Would you if I just took away those carrier groups and kept them away for the duration of this war?

OOC:
For staying neutral, Id load your pockets with cash!OOC: Would you if I just took away those carrier groups and kept them away for the duration of this war?OOC: No, because youd send your other ones!

OOC: No, because youd send your other ones!Okay...When you guys are done arguing, my jets shoot the rest of your jets out of the sky...er, I mean, launch more missiles (that's only if your jets keep speeding in the direction of my fleet where the aircraft that are guarding it and weren't involved in the attack can get them).
DT vs. NIA
161 vs. 175

OOC:
No, now theyre guarding my fleet, not attacking your fleet. My fleets 160 mile range SAMs should pick them up.

OOC:
No, now theyre guarding my fleet, not attacking your fleet. My fleets 160 mile range SAMs should pick them up.Okay, so...I still have 15 fighters alive attacking those aircraft launching the cruise missiles.
And our fleets are 600km apart now.

OOC:
?? Either Ive forgotten something, or all 288 of the cruise missiles have already been launched by the 72 Mo-1's.

So my 100 fighters did absolutely no harm to your aircraft...

So my 100 fighters did absolutely no harm to your aircraft...
Oh that. *snaps fingers distractedly*

-14 Mo-1's (after they launched their missiles, though)

OOC: How many of the 288 missiles will you let my flechette rounds knock out of the air?

Stupid computer won't let me use the scroll wheel in this browser as of a few minutes ago...

OOC:
Well, how many CIWS are on your carriers? Also, how much carriers did you send again?

((How big are the flechette rounds? 20mm rounds could not penetrate a Yakhont.))

OOC:
OOC:
Well, how many CIWS are on your carriers?That's irrelevant. Six hundred flechette rounds are coming from 155mm guns mounted on the destroyers.
Also, how much carriers did you send again?Thirty. The last five haven't arrived, yet.
((How big are the flechette rounds? 20mm rounds could not penetrate a Yakhont.))Can't find info on that.
They won't all be coming from the front, anyway, which is where DT said they can stop the 20mm round.

Artitsa, TG.

((It would be hard to hit it from any other direction. The entire head section is armoured. Yakhonts = tha shiznitz))

OOC: Using naval railguns as CIWS? Hadnt though of that... have fun trying to actually HIT, though!

Give your CIWS a good 100 kills.

OOC: ((It would be hard to hit it from any other direction.There's more of a target from above.
The entire head section is armoured.A hit to the fuel or engine will be good enough.
Yakhonts = tha shiznitz))What?

Yay, the scroll wheel works...
OOC: Using naval railguns as CIWS?Not railguns, but ya, I figured that's the best I could do against something too stealthy to get a lock on.
Give your CIWS a good 100 kills.Okay. Now I have to figure out the casualties...Were they heading for any particular ships?

OOC: ((It would be hard to hit it from any other direction.There's more of a target from above.
The entire head section is armoured.A hit to the fuel or engine will be good enough.
Yakhonts = tha shiznitz))What?

Yay, the scroll wheel works...

ooc: They would be difficult shots, but I am sure you'd take out alot, also with any Anti-missle missles you have.

OOC:
They were aimed only at carriers.

OOC:
They were aimed only at carriers.Okay...Twenty carriers are sunk.
OOC: I said five more carriers were coming two days ago. When's it okay with you for them to arrive?

OOC:
?!!!!!!!!

I was expecting maybe 1 sunk and 4 damaged, your SAMs stopped working? :shock:

Its perfectly fine, of course. :D

OOC: You said Yakhonts are stealthy. If they're not THAT stealthy, I'd happily take back some of those losses! ;)

OOC:
There are ways to detect them... if you can find them. Rather low RCS, but theyre not stealthy to everything.

OOC:
There are ways to detect them... if you can find them. Rather low RCS, but theyre not stealthy to everything.OOC: Oh, just low RCS. Then they'd really stand out against the ocean to IR-guided missiles. Shall we change the casualty numbers to "1 sunk and 4 damaged"?

OOC: They were also designed to have a low IR signature..

Lets hope your admirals think of more effective means of engament for next time.

The only anti-air missile guidance systems I can think of are:
active radar
semi-active radar
IR (various types)
command (like that'll do you much good when radar can't get a lock)
inertial (like that'll do you much good when the target is constantly moving)
laser SACLOS (like that'll do you much good when the target is so small and fast)
Oh, well.

OOC:
I was thinking laser radar... ah well, something for your admirals to contemplate as their carriers get shredded.

OOC: I don't think there are any LADAR-guided missiles...Are there?

Maropian coast- ignore me, I dont give a f---. Belem never existed, now bye!

ooc: Admit it then: I outsmarted you Dark Terror. I do something smooth, and you ignore me. I've had it with you and your godmodding. Bonstock will have its revenge.

secret ic:

Port Yuko International Airport
Communist Bonstocknian homeland

A young lady with a briefcase walked into the terminal. The airport, despite government mortar bombardment, was relativly intact. The lady smiled at some of the security officers. She showed them a ticket to Dark Terror, with a connecting flight in Moscow, Russian Forces.

"We would like to inspect your baggage, miss." one of the guards said.

"All right," she said, in a soft, seductive voice. Then she looked at her watch. "Oh my god! I'm late! If I dont get to the flight, I'll miss my important confrence in Moscow! Could you nice gentlemen excuse me this once?"

The guards looked at each other. The lady seemed about 25 years old, perfect body, wearing a tight fitting shirt, ah, could she possibly be a terrorist?

"Just give us your phone number and we'll let you through."

"All right." She handed them a business card. "Thank you."

"So, you gonna be back by, oh, 6 o'clock Friday?"

"We'll see about it." Then the guards let her in, and she raced over to her flight. She got on, and the airplane flew to Moscow. Being already in the terminal at the airport, she did not go through security, and connected to her flight to Dark Terror's capital. Going out, no one checked her as she caught a cab to the embassy of Russian Forces. She went to an alleyway adjacent to the embassy, and walked down. There was a door into the embassy, held open by a mechanic, who clearly worked at the place.

"Miss Hu Li, I presume."

"Agent "Deepthroat," I imagine?"

"Correct. Password?"

She wispered a word into his ear. "Now, what is your password?"

He wispered another password into her ear, to prove he was no imposter. But the two knew eachother. Most Bonstocknian Special Service (BSS) agents knew the President of the Republic of Bonstock, and agent "Deepthroat," was no exception. The BSS, of course, was tasked with protecting the President. Then again, this President didn't need much protection, having been an expert BSS assasin for many years under the service of Bonstock's former President, Charles Ste. Evremonde.

The mechanic led the young woman to a work area. The wall was cut open, revealing some wires that he was apparantly fixing.

"Here. Place it right here."

The woman placed her briefcase into the hole in the wall, and placed it under the wires. Then the mechanic plastered up the walls, putting on a special paint so no metal detectors could find anting deep inside, save the wires that crisscrossed around. Dark Terror would never even find its fate.

"Let's get the hell outta here, now."

"On it. I got some contacts in Omz222. We'll go there, then get back to Bonstock and get at our real enemies. Then we can celebrate."

They went to the airport, which was highly militarized. Jet fighters were everywhere. But there was still some flights avaliable, mostly to allies of Dark Terror. They took another flight to Moscow, the connected to Omz222. From there they would go to Bonstock by government submarine, so as to cover their tracks.

ooc: There is NOTHING you can do, bisons. You're gonna be a crater again unless you learn good RP.

Nianacio, fluffywuffy: give the signal, and he blows. Tm Maropian Coast or Bonstock if you want "secrecy." I may do it myself, but perhaps you have a chance at the war. We'll see how far you go.

But there is *one* way to save yourself. 250 billion USD, wired to us, and an official apology for bombing our cities and directing your allies to do the same long ago, killing some 5 million Bonstocknians. Then we'll turn the bomb off.

OOC:
I dont think there are any mach 2 low RCS SSM's.. are there? Since were both basically 2015 tech, you probably easily couldve made some!`

OOC: Ignored right there for RPing my guards. Bye. Also there is no travel in or out of Dark Terror at the moment.

Maropian coast- ignore me, I dont give a f---. Belem never existed, now bye!
<snip>

you have a space fleet too, according to the war on klonor thread :roll:

OOC: Ignored right there for RPing my guards. Bye. Also there is no travel in or out of Dark Terror at the moment.


Port Yuko International Airport
Communist Bonstocknian homeland

A young lady with a briefcase walked into the terminal. The airport, despite government mortar bombardment, was relativly intact. The lady smiled at some of the security officers. She showed them a ticket to Dark Terror, with a connecting flight in Moscow, Russian Forces.

"We would like to inspect your baggage, miss." one of the guards said.

they were n BONSTOCK, WHICH IS CONTROLLED BY COMMUNISTS!

And you went to RF for help. there should be SOME travel. Otherwise, I pity your poor refugees.

Maropian coast- ignore me, I dont give a f---. Belem never existed, now bye!
<snip>

you have a space fleet too, according to the war on klonor thread :roll:
small one. I only have it for the Klonor war, but it will get involved in my civil war. I wont use it here.

OOC:
No travel IN (AT ALL), but travel out (in army convoys to artitsa) is what I shouldve said.

Also, in DT the first things guards are tought is that terrorists wont be some mideastern man with a huge beard and his turban bulging with explosives. After some nasty lessons during rebellions by ethnic groups living near the Ardorian border (OOC: Think checynya war), we found it out the hard way.

OOC:
No travel IN (AT ALL), but travel out (in army convoys to artitsa) is what I shouldve said.

Also, in DT the first things guards are tought is that terrorists wont be some mideastern man with a huge beard and his turban bulging with explosives. After some nasty lessons during rebellions by ethnic groups living near the Ardorian border (OOC: Think checynya war), we found it out the hard way.

Why else did I send a sexy young woman?

Anyway, just assume that they went by boat or something, or through Ardor. After that, NO POST FACTUMS! You posted these security measures AFTER they have been breached.

OOC:
I dont think there are any mach 2 low RCS SSM's.. are there?In 1.5-2 years NPO Mashinostroenia is to begin exporting multi-purpose supersonic anti-ship missile (ASM) Yakhont (SS-N-26).

OOC:
No travel IN (AT ALL), but travel out (in army convoys to artitsa) is what I shouldve said.

Also, in DT the first things guards are tought is that terrorists wont be some mideastern man with a huge beard and his turban bulging with explosives. After some nasty lessons during rebellions by ethnic groups living near the Ardorian border (OOC: Think checynya war), we found it out the hard way.

Why else did I send a sexy young woman?
OOC: Because you never realized that in DT, the guards letting her past woudlve been found on security cameras and executed. Security in Bisonic airports on DEFCON1 conditions makes american airport secuirty look like a total joke.

OOC:
I dont think there are any mach 2 low RCS SSM's.. are there?Ever heard of the P-800?
OOC:
AKA SS_N-19 Shipwreck, yes. Mach 2, 625km range. Stealthy?!

Maropian- because you never bothered asking me about my security.

By boat-interesting theory, although my other coast is at least fortified to the level of the Atlantic wall, all 45 miles of it, while the coast where fluffywuffy invaded is a ww1ish battleground for half its length, and guarded by entrenched troops for the other half (OOC: Think ww1 type no mand land and whatnot, steppes with massive trenches on either side arent good places to go behind enemy lines!)

OOC:
No travel IN (AT ALL), but travel out (in army convoys to artitsa) is what I shouldve said.

Also, in DT the first things guards are tought is that terrorists wont be some mideastern man with a huge beard and his turban bulging with explosives. After some nasty lessons during rebellions by ethnic groups living near the Ardorian border (OOC: Think checynya war), we found it out the hard way.

Why else did I send a sexy young woman?
OOC: Because you never realized that in DT, the guards letting her past woudlve been found on security cameras and executed. Security in Bisonic airports on DEFCON1 conditions makes american airport secuirty look like a total joke.
Next time, say that BEFORE I decide to breach your system.

And she was going OUT of the place. No one would check her going OUT. When she was going IN, she seduced BONSTOCKNIAN guards, who really dont give a d--n because they are employed by a SMALL, WORTHLESS COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT who pays them NOTHING.

OOC:
I dont think there are any mach 2 low RCS SSM's.. are there?Ever heard of the P-800?
OOC:
AKA SS_N-19 Shipwreck, yes. Mach 2, 625km range. Stealthy?!

Maropian- because you never bothered asking me about my security.

By boat-interesting theory, although my other coast is at least fortified to the level of the Atlantic wall, all 45 miles of it, while the coast where fluffywuffy invaded is a ww1ish battleground for half its length, and guarded by entrenched troops for the other half (OOC: Think ww1 type no mand land and whatnot, steppes with massive trenches on either side arent good places to go behind enemy lines!)
Well, why not go through Ardor? It's not being invaded...

OOC:
I dont think there are any mach 2 low RCS SSM's.. are there?Ever heard of the P-800?
OOC:
AKA SS_N-19 Shipwreck, yes. Mach 2, 625km range. Stealthy?!

Maropian- because you never bothered asking me about my security.

By boat-interesting theory, although my other coast is at least fortified to the level of the Atlantic wall, all 45 miles of it, while the coast where fluffywuffy invaded is a ww1ish battleground for half its length, and guarded by entrenched troops for the other half (OOC: Think ww1 type no mand land and whatnot, steppes with massive trenches on either side arent good places to go behind enemy lines!)
Well, why not go through Ardor? It's not being invaded...

AKA SS_N-19 Shipwreck, yes. Mach 2, 625km range. Stealthy?!Designed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya, the Yakhont ASCM (Anti-Ship Cruise Missile) meets all principal requirements to anti-ship missiles of the fourth generation - low weight and dimensions (eight missiles can be placed in the hull of a slightly modernized Amur Class sub, or it can replace four P-15 Termit [SS-N-2a Styx] anti-ship missiles), employs stealth technology, has supersonic flight speed and a completely independent guidance system based on the fire-and-forget concept.

OOC:
And who let her in? Either way, the guards wouldve been too scared of execution (as they had been widely publicized in DT for simlar offenses) to let her through.

Now youre ignored, so you can get the hell out.

AKA SS_N-19 Shipwreck, yes. Mach 2, 625km range. Stealthy?!Designed by NPO Mashinostroyeniya, the Yakhont ASCM (Anti-Ship Cruise Missile) meets all principal requirements to anti-ship missiles of the fourth generation - low weight and dimensions (eight missiles can be placed in the hull of a slightly modernized Amur Class sub, or it can replace four P-15 Termit [SS-N-2a Styx] anti-ship missiles), employs stealth technology, has supersonic flight speed and a completely independent guidance system based on the fire-and-forget concept.
Hmm... well Y-4 basically has a range 200km longer, and looks like the AGM-129.

Well, if you're ignoring me...

http://www.mindspring.com/~jamoyers/kdem/screenshots/atom.gif

Nice knowing ya! (not) 8)

OOC:
Nice knowing ya too, though if you came up with a way to explain getting into DT< I would have coughed up 250 bil, youd have ended the bombs threat, THEN IDVE NUKED MAROIAN COAST WITH EVERY ICBM I HAD!

Hmm... well Y-4 basically has a range 200km longer, and looks like the AGM-129.*Shrugs* Still shows that Mach 2 stealthy missiles not only exist, but are going to be on the international market soon.

Hmm... well Y-4 basically has a range 200km longer, and looks like the AGM-129.*Shrugs* Still shows that Mach 2 stealthy missiles not only exist, but are going to be on the international market soon.OOC: Meh. you couldve made a laser radar guided SAM...

OOC: Meh. you couldve made a laser radar guided SAM...OOC: I only use real technology or at the very least, technology that seems possible from what I've read and has been suggested/planned/etc. I've never read anything about a LADAR SAM before.

OOC:
Nice knowing ya too, though if you came up with a way to explain getting into DT< I would have coughed up 250 bil, youd have ended the bombs threat, THEN IDVE NUKED MAROIAN COAST WITH EVERY ICBM I HAD!

The offer, actually, still stands... I can ignore myself *points an ignore pistol at his head*

Keep in mind, you have no idea these are from Bonstock or Maropian Coast.

OOC:
Right, then who do I pay the $250 bil to? This is pointless anyway becuase youre ignored, but...

OOC:
Right, then who do I pay the $250 bil to? This is pointless anyway becuase youre ignored, but...

Wire it to Maropian Coast, were the government continues to resist the communsts.

I may find a way to give some of this back to you. Where's that old Special ops store? And do you sell airplanes and LAVs? And some good MBTs? And of course, I need lots of trucks, feul trucks, supply trucks, stuff that you dont talk about :lol: .

By the way, the bomb hasnt gone off, YET. I just did it to scare you.

OOC:
Of course the bomb hasnt gone off yet, its so called owner never existed. Wire it to MC? Excellent, we WOULD have wired it, then nuked MC into dust. :roll:

OOC:
Of course the bomb hasnt gone off yet, its so called owner never existed. Wire it to MC? Excellent, we WOULD have wired it, then nuked MC into dust. :roll:

LOL!

Remember Skynet?

Sorry, Kid! You paid 250 bill, and screwed yourself! :D

Revenge is so sweet... *glugs his bottle of root beer*

AMF got rid of Skynet.

OOC:
I didnt pay you anything because I ignored you, also you can ask Nianancio for a link to AMF's topic aobut the shutting down of SKynet.
OWNED!

Just to throw something out on the table, didnt you say in this topic you had some skynet thing still operational? But then if AMFs skynet shutting down comes later then you are covered.

Also, if you fired ever missle you had (which, based on what you use now, is proportional to Soviet stuff) you not only kill him, you kill every nation through the nuclear winter that follows. You are dead through that, but he is dead, and we ALL are dead.

And BTW, i've found a way to detect any stealth plane/missle. It's called (as I found it) passive radar and it works by detecting the radiation given off by radar, cell phones(called Celdar), TV broadcasts, etc, and then applying some formula to determine speed, range, location, etc.

PR as it is in RL is in its infancy, but the cellphone one (composed of a PC and parts of a cell phone) I believe were shown to be effective at tracking targets AND being cheap.

Celdar link:
http://www.businessweek.com:/print/magazine/content/03_42/b3854113.htm?tc

TV based radar( others can be found)
http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/context/941546/0

laser radar
http://www.optech.on.ca/aboutlaser.htm

Also, sidewinders are current RL missles that use passive guidance to target air targets. They have been shown to be more effective than active guided radar

I also saw that the ADATS system (i think) had some sort of laser guidance system

Dammit...I waited so long that its already time for me to leave...damn

OOC:
Ive been using passive radar for ages, welcome to the club! Ill start researching radar guided artillery ASAP as well. Laser radar can be defeated in a rather simple way, though..

I didnt know about SKynet being shut down before Nianancio posted that link (honestly).

Nobody RP's nuclear winters, otherwise everyone on NS woudlve been dead looooong ago, in April, when garrison nuked sunlight.

And BTW, i've found a way to detect any stealth plane/missle. It's called (as I found it) passive radar and it works by detecting the radiation given off by radar, cell phones(called Celdar), TV broadcasts, etc, and then applying some formula to determine speed, range, location, etc.Detect, not target
Laser radar can be defeated in a rather simple way, though..Smoke!

Skynet link:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91107&highlight=skynet

OOC:
Detect, not target is what I use it for (mainly for submarine deteciton). Then I just send a nice upgraded Ka-27 Helix helicopter with torpedoes to the area of the sub, and thats the end of it. Subs DO use radar, after all.

ooc: Ignored me? Perfect...

Terrorists have now detonated the nuke. Bisons, to me you look like this:

http://www.mindspring.com/~jamoyers/kdem/screenshots/atom.gif

Since this hidden fusion nuke has knocked out your command sites and your silos, there is no response from you. Plus, the people who left the nuke did it secretly. Congrats DT, you're a crater to me.

*sticks out toungue*

Ummm, from the very beginning it was agreed to keep this thing conventional...i.e. w/o WMD's

Ummm, from the very beginning it was agreed to keep this thing conventional...i.e. w/o WMD's

I know, but bisons ignored me, so now I nuked him with my fusion bomb. His entire nation is dead to me.

It's my form of ignoring him. Its revenge for the millions of Bonstocknians he bombed and killed.

Ummm, from the very beginning it was agreed to keep this thing conventional...i.e. w/o WMD'sDT and Lima Beens have both used nukes, I think.

((Bonstock shove off.))
Artitsa has revealed plans to put a special EMP generator into specialized subs. When this project is expected to be completed, and its purpose is still classified. Estimated cost being 1.5 Trillian. (To be paid over time.)

The Dictatorship of Arsons will now be entering the war on Fluffywuffy's side. We will supply kamikazes and suicidal flamethrower-wielders. We shall also supply food and women.

The Thunder Mage republic shall join with the arsons and the Fluffywuffy troups in the war. Be warned. we bring healing girls, and extra Men for the ground troups. we hope you had a nice time! :twisted: Now DIE! 8)

OOC:
Thats fine bonsotck, to me you never existed for RPing my guards for me.
Bonstock says: "LEARN GOOD RP OR ILL N00K J00!!1111111!!1"

Damage from Nianancios 300km ranged air launched cruise missiles:
- 2 Yekaterinburg class carriers hit and damaged, with the fires being borught under control. 1 later had to be abandoned and sank.
- 4 Tikhiy class "stealth" destroyers found themselves going under.
- 3 Korsar class frigates were hit and sank.
- 6 Udaloy II class frigates were sunk.
- 3 Soyuz III class missile battleships were hit, but survived due to nice thick armor.

If your missiles have some advanced characteristics or you think for some other reason the above losses are too low, tell me and Ill adjust them.

Secret IC to DT:if you require any more help, i would be glad to, now that he UV conflict appears to be over.

Secret IC to DT:if you require any more help, i would be glad to, now that he UV conflict appears to be over.
Response:
Sure, well take your help, attack the remaining Nianancian ships off my shores, theyre down 20 carriers from a cruise missile attack.

2 supercarrier battle groups, i'm not listing them all again. dig it up from either thread. all you need to know is that totals 2 supercarriers and 4 Nimitzes. I'll throw in an extra escort group. (10 cruisers, 10 frigates, 15 destroyers, 15 tankers) plus the B-2's and F-22's already there.

"Sir."
"You have the casualty report?"
"Yes, sir."
"Twenty carriers sunk?!? This fleet's going home."
"Sir?"
"And a new one will be on the way. I want twenty more carrier groups right here immediately."
"Sir, that'll take time..."
"Aim for immediate arrival. That's the way to get somewhere fast."
"Yes, sir."
"Make sure they bring lots of flechette rounds for knocking those Yakhonts out of the air."
"Even with the flechette rounds, will this be wise?"
"Well, the fleet doesn't have to fight any. It can just sit there and look menacing if I change my mind."
"Yes, sir..."
If your missiles have some advanced characteristics or you think for some other reason the above losses are too low, tell me and Ill adjust them.Low RCS & IR signature
Chaff, active jammers, decoys, & other types of electronic countermeasures are effectively countered by the unique combination of the inherent characteristics of the target seeker itself (e.g. high resolution, frequency agility, jittered PRF, & high processing power) & the sophisticated signal processing
Combines sea-state adapted extremely low sea-skimming with unpredictable evasive maneuvers & increased thrust in the terminal phase for penetration of a target's missile & gun defenses; to further improve the hit probability against heavily defended targets, missiles can be salvo-launched (missiles in the salvo are individually programmed to arrive simultaneously at the target from different directions, thereby saturating the ship?s defenses)
I need a web site to list all this info on...

OOC:
So really nothing the Yak-44BM AWACS wasnt deisnged to handle with its array of various look down radars....
then there's electronic jammers.

While we are still unable to aid DT militarily, we offer DT 1 trillion dollars in aid (money wired).

the battlegroups should be there about now. the escort group's destroyers and cruisers, along with 30 F/A 18 superhornets, and 60 Su-37Ks, will launch, airplanes carrying 3 radar-detecting sea-skimmer missles each, while the ships will fire 20 cruise missles (upgraded Tomahawks) each.

Thunder Mage...are you by any chance Chris Quillan? Or are you Micheal Wally? (can't spell either of y'alls names)

So Puleo, could ya share that telegram I sent you with Quillan? It has important info (since you havent been online since like march or may..damn nation deletion :( )

Ok...I did a little research on the A-10s gun. While it IS a 30mm gun (and you said yout tanks can handle that), each gun fires at 3,900 rounds per minute. Also, for every 4 normal depleted uranium rounds it fires, it fires a special explosive round. Also, 80% of rounds fired at 4,000 ft will hit in 20 ft of the target.....

ALso, the A-10 can take 37mm high explosive rounds....I think I we might need to change our losses some (I might get 4 A-10s now)

And I am sure subs do not use radar. They use sonar, which uses sound, not radiation to locate targets. When in stealth mode, they simply listen for targets. When they want to find you, they turn on active sonar, revealing themselves and you.

BTW, there has never been an underwater battle between two submarines....thats odd

Now for the war zone....
Radar operators, being able to see anti-radaiation missles launch, turned off thier radars resulting in only 14 MRLS losses.

MRLSs begin to fire thier deadly rockets into the column of enemy units. A combined launch of (may seem god-moddy, but each can fire 12 rockets, reload, and fire again within 10 minutes..plus you saw what i sent and accepted it) 39,168 rockets. Infantry units have also begun a mass attack; 100,000 men have thrown one grenade a piece at enemy soldiers and tanks.

Navy is also pursuing an active role; 3,600 Tomahawk missles have been launched at enemy units in the massive column. No aircraft sent.

ooc: Its also been stated that the GAU-12 cannot penetrate a tank. Its for soft targets like APC's and trucks, and the such. Not heavy battle tanks. I also have over 340 SS-101 Interceptors in the air over your landing zone, and roughly 2000 GT-1 tanks hitting your flanks along with 80,000 infantry in APC's.

-Several miles from Artitsa.-
The K-Series sub, RSS. Charbenou moved towards the enemy fleet at 4 Knots, its silent creep. There was not much to get a sound off of, perfectly silent. They were built for that. Inside the submarine held the new device under testing. It would slowly position itself under Fluffywuffys fleet. ((If you say you pick it up on sonar, I am so spitting on your grave.))

-Along the newly completed Pacific Wall-
Over 800 Cruisemissles activated in their launchers. All that was stopping the launch was the order. All SAM systems in the Pacific wall were online and working properly.

-FluffyWuffy landing zone-
Having picked up the co-ordinates of enemy artillary, Artitsan FT-165 'Whitefire' MLRS (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79698&highlight=) and the ELS-400 MLRs (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76224&highlight=) through the massive launch. Firing from Artitsan territories, a total of 2400 from the ELS-400s, and 12,000 from the Whitefire's. Not all are aimed at the artillary, abour 1/3rd is defencive positions, 1/3rd forces in reserve, 1/3rd Counter Battery. The SS-101's above are also spotting for the MLR's.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/russian-mrl.jpg

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/himars22.jpg

ooc: There has been confirmed kills in WWII of british subs sinking Italian and German subs, and American subs sinking Japanese. Im far to lazy to go look though.

OOC:
Fluffy, Ill post overall ground war losses at the end of the war, if thats fine with you. If not, Ill post them now.

Keep in mind if something worked well in GUlf war, that doesnt mean Im using T-55's and T-72M crap!
IC:
As everything except the "Door smasher" assault tanks (GT-1 and T-7M) suffers increasing amounts of losses to the Fluffywuffy MLRS (in fact some units are almost utterly annihalated), the Su-37MK's release over a hundred radar homing missiles at the FLuffywuffy MLRS systems, hoping to neutralize them. The grenades bounce off everything other than VO-100 or BTR-94 light APC"s, a few of which are actually destroyed. Meanwhile, thousands of artillery systems and close to 1,000 MLRS systems (most are upgraded BM-21 Grads) continue their barrage on the narrow zone of Fluffywuffy resistance, seemingly seting the sky on fire, with a mix of laser guided and cluster munitions.
http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Smerch2.jpg
A section of Smerch-M MLRS systems pounding the Fluffywuffy line of defenses

ooc: For future reference for all:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/447411/GoodMap.jpg

Yep, off the western coast is where the fighting is. The Eastern coast has been heavily fortified, so feel free to try to attack me there.

(Forgot to do this earlier)
Damage reports from the East Islandian attack in another thread (believe me P-800's or crappy chinese missiles arent very scary to me):
- 1 Mihail II battlecruiser hit and damaged; fires contained though it will not be of much use
- 2 Sovremenny class destroyers sunk
- 1 Kirov class cruiser damaged
- 18 MiG-35M's shot down
- 25 SU-37MK's shot down

(Forgot to do this earlier)
Damage reports from the East Islandian attack in another thread (believe me P-800's or crappy chinese missiles arent very scary to me):


Dumb white assholes with overrated skills and no grasp of common sense or tactical knowledge arent very scary to me either. In fact, if any of them tried to fight me and my nation in a fair, equal sized war without using godmodding, then i would make them LEARN CHINESE (look up song by Jin Da MC... o wait.. then idiots like DT would start telling me that Chinese rappers arent worth anything... like Chinese missiles. Still, they're worth more than his ass and his bunch of godmodders.. cept mayb UV... hes ok, if stubborn)

China is the future. the big, scary future that will own bitches like DT.
But they dont have enough brains to see it coming.

IC
following a cessation in hostilities, all EI forces were withdrawn form the AO near UV and DT, and were instead diverted to Agrigentian forces, who are fighting a desperate battle in defence of their homeland.

ooc: Ignored me? Perfect...

Terrorists have now detonated the nuke. Bisons, to me you look like this:

http://www.mindspring.com/~jamoyers/kdem/screenshots/atom.gif

Since this hidden fusion nuke has knocked out your command sites and your silos, there is no response from you. Plus, the people who left the nuke did it secretly. Congrats DT, you're a crater to me.

*sticks out toungue*

OOC: you know i have to interject here. There is security getting both on and off of aircraft. It's called customs, that is how most nations fight smuggling. Secondly your new "Fusion" nuke isn't really new at all. Unless someone corrects me, Fission nukes are the old atomic warheads that usually yeiled less than a megaton, and Fusion nukes are HYDROGEN BOMBS, the big boys that everyone strives for nowadays. And nukes that are powerful enough to do THAT much damage would be rather large in size. Watch the movie "The Peacemaker" with George Clooney and Nicole Kidman. It shows someone smuggling in a "Suitcase" nuke. Which is really only the plutonium trigger of a nuke. and only enough to destroy a small part of the city.

OOC: China may be the future, but any piece of military equipment with a Chinese sounding name other than the Type 98 tank or J-12 stealth concept fighter is pathetic! Frankly I hope they get gunned down when they attack Taiwan, better yet invaded by the US (Russia isnt such a big fan of chinese illegal immigrants either, but hey Russia is run by the mafia).
IC:
That is good, as we have asked Johnistan to withdraw. This will leave the Pro-Bisonic coalition to dismember Fluffywuffy in peace.

DT, i have finally been able to get one this week, so what ya want me to do or have we both been nuked already?

DT, i have finally been able to get one this week, so what ya want me to do or have we both been nuked already?
OOC:
Bonsotck RPed my security for me, I ignored him, he claimed to nuke me. Go back to sleep, and more directly UV is saved so redirect your naval units there to attakc Fluffywuffy's ships.

IC: i'm giving command of the fleets that were in UV helping him to DT.

OOC: China may be the future, but any piece of military equipment with a Chinese sounding name other than the Type 98 tank or J-12 stealth concept fighter is pathetic! Frankly I hope they get gunned down when they attack Taiwan, better yet invaded by the US (Russia isnt such a big fan of chinese illegal immigrants either, but hey Russia is run by the mafia).


Yes.. of course.. China doesnt have its own secret society, doesnt have its own good tech, and is full of potential illegal immigrants. As for six thousand years of culture and the world's longest surviving civilization.. well..
And once America invades China, they will be sent to shit. I personally wish hell on all Chinese americans who fight their own country in the name of America. HELL.
And i will return to my home and fight if that happens. Maybe then i'll meet DT on the front and we can have a nice chat. Or mayb we'll kill each other.

but thats a moot point, and i wont hijack ur thread any further. Tring to talk sense into an idiot is about as easy as climbing Mt. Taishan, and arguign with one.. they'll juss drag u down to their level of stupidty and hit u wit their experience.

In any case, I'm withdrawing, and i bid u an unfond farewell. and good luck to Fluffywuffy, and maybe help will be rendered.

Maybe.

IC: i'm giving command of the fleets that were in UV helping him to DT.OOC: GOod, mind quickly confirming that they were 3 fleets of:
4x Nimitz class aircraft carrier
1x Red Dragon class Super carrier
10x WASP landing ships
26x Oliver Perry Class Frigates
22x KIDD class Destroyers
15x Ticonderoga class Cruisers
13x Aleigh Burke Class Destroyers
3x Missouri class battle ships
11x Seawolf class Fast attack subs
5x Los Angeles class subs
7x Ohio class subs
14x Viginia class subs
45x Supply ships

the battlegroups should be there about now. the escort group's destroyers and cruisers, along with 30 F/A 18 superhornets, and 60 Su-37Ks, will launch, airplanes carrying 3 radar-detecting sea-skimmer missles each, while the ships will fire 20 cruise missles (upgraded Tomahawks) each.Was that directed at me? My fleet left about 2 hours before that post real-time.

Also...how long after a post of deployment will you guys let a fleet arrive?

IC: i'm giving command of the fleets that were in UV helping him to DT.OOC: GOod, mind quickly confirming that they were 3 fleets of:
4x Nimitz class aircraft carrier
1x Red Dragon class Super carrier
10x WASP landing ships
26x Oliver Perry Class Frigates
22x KIDD class Destroyers
15x Ticonderoga class Cruisers
13x Aleigh Burke Class Destroyers
3x Missouri class battle ships
11x Seawolf class Fast attack subs
5x Los Angeles class subs
7x Ohio class subs
14x Viginia class subs
45x Supply ships

Not exactly sure if any were hit or not, but i know they sailed quite a bit.

ooc: For future reference for all:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/447411/GoodMap.jpg

Are you ok with my artists impression of your country Ardor?

OOC:
Wow, you beat india. Lets see what happends if Taiwan does have nukes eh? Sitting [Peking] Duck? No, I dont want china to be nuked, but maybe then theyll realize that if the US cant attack iraq, they have no buisness in Taiwan. And I wish hell upon the chinese leadership for war crimes includng annexing tibet and killing off 1/3 of its population, and then the cultural revolution, etc. If the US invaded China, wed see again that the Chinese army is a ragatag bunch of 3 million poorly trained conscripts in 50 year old tanks, where the Chinese 25% mil budget is hardly enough to keep anything going!

IC: i'm giving command of the fleets that were in UV helping him to DT.OOC: GOod, mind quickly confirming that they were 3 fleets of:
4x Nimitz class aircraft carrier
1x Red Dragon class Super carrier
10x WASP landing ships
26x Oliver Perry Class Frigates
22x KIDD class Destroyers
15x Ticonderoga class Cruisers
13x Aleigh Burke Class Destroyers
3x Missouri class battle ships
11x Seawolf class Fast attack subs
5x Los Angeles class subs
7x Ohio class subs
14x Viginia class subs
45x Supply ships

Not exactly sure if any were hit or not, but i know they sailed quite a bit.
No, they were being readied for battle when hostilities ceased.

ooc: For future reference for all:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/447411/GoodMap.jpg

Are you ok with my artists impression of your country Ardor?

Well with the numers i have, it was always alot larger than DT was.

Secondly your new "Fusion" nuke isn't really new at all. Unless someone corrects me, Fission nukes are the old atomic warheads that usually yeiled less than a megaton, and Fusion nukes are HYDROGEN BOMBS, the big boys that everyone strives for nowadays. And nukes that are powerful enough to do THAT much damage would be rather large in size. Watch the movie "The Peacemaker" with George Clooney and Nicole Kidman. It shows someone smuggling in a "Suitcase" nuke. Which is really only the plutonium trigger of a nuke. and only enough to destroy a small part of the city.

ooc: excuse this; it may be considered spam

No, Fusion nukes are not hydrogen bombs. Hydrogen bombs are nuclear bombs created by a certain isotope of hydrogen, known as hydrogen 3, or tritrium. The atom has one proton and one electron, like all hydrogen atoms, but unlike regular hydrogen atoms, it has 3 opposed to 1 neutrons, hence the name "hydrogen 3." It is sometimes called heavy water. The breakdown of this atom by the breaking apart of the 3 neutrons and the proton in the nucleus of the atom is what causes the explosion.

In a fusion bomb, two normal hydrogen atoms are fused together, forming helium. This is the type of energy that makes the sun burn. Trillions of hydrogen atoms are fused into helium (which has two protons and two electrons) at high temperature. Therefore, the bomb is much more powerful then a regular hydrogen bomb, which breaks down hydrogen 3.

by the way, Dark Terror, if I can find a new way to get my speical ops guys behind your lines, I'd love it if we could mutually ignore the post about the nuke. I can always delete posts...

The condition is you will have to post losses for my SOF attack, which shouldnt be much. It was only a few mines. Just say "20 trucks were destroyed and now millions of troops are hunting your SOFs. Prepare for them to die! HAHAHA!" and I'll go ahead with it.

I'll figure I have 12 men there, not the 80+ I had before.

So, whadda ya say?

OOC:
THis is no spec ops battlefield, its really a ww1 style battlefield on open steppes. THe Bisonic Army has thermal imaging, and were preparing to sweep away Fluffywuffy's naval forces.

I guess you could, with luck, sneak into Ardor by sea and try to get to DT. WITH LUCK.

Well Ardor, your not in the region so... perhaps one day I shall make you bigger. One day.

Well Ardor, your not in the region so... perhaps one day I shall make you bigger. One day.
THeres no one south of Ardor, so just get rid of that boundary!

Well Ardor, your not in the region so... perhaps one day I shall make you bigger. One day.

Not in the region am I???

meh ok.

OOC:
Maropian Coast, no, you can't delete posts that aren't the last in a thread.
Sitting [Peking] Duck?Off-topic, I know, but I just remembered that in March(?) there was a nation called Peeking Duck...
How long after a post of deployment will you guys let a fleet arrive?

(Forgot to do this earlier)
Damage reports from the East Islandian attack in another thread (believe me P-800's or crappy chinese missiles arent very scary to me):


Dumb white assholes with overrated skills and no grasp of common sense or tactical knowledge arent very scary to me either. In fact, if any of them tried to fight me and my nation in a fair, equal sized war without using godmodding, then i would make them LEARN CHINESE (look up song by Jin Da MC... o wait.. then idiots like DT would start telling me that Chinese rappers arent worth anything... like Chinese missiles. Still, they're worth more than his ass and his bunch of godmodders.. cept mayb UV... hes ok, if stubborn)

China is the future. the big, scary future that will own bitches like DT.
But they dont have enough brains to see it coming.

IC
following a cessation in hostilities, all EI forces were withdrawn form the AO near UV and DT, and were instead diverted to Agrigentian forces, who are fighting a desperate battle in defence of their homeland.

I must agree with several of your statements. I am stubborn (LoL), and in RL China will be the next "big" country. All international affairs experts are telling up and coming students to learn Mandarin Chinese if they plan on entering the international stage. It has one of the fastest growing economies and the largest population; thus it is inevitable that it will not become a very vital player on the international forum.

OOC:
THat is true, but right now it is little better than a hellhole with 2 or 3 commerce centers.

Nianancio- time moves slooooowly, because I need to engage FLuffywuffy and hes rarely on. So, uhh yeah.

Alright [/threadhighjacking]

(Forgot to do this earlier)
Damage reports from the East Islandian attack in another thread (believe me P-800's or crappy chinese missiles arent very scary to me):


Dumb white assholes with overrated skills and no grasp of common sense or tactical knowledge arent very scary to me either. In fact, if any of them tried to fight me and my nation in a fair, equal sized war without using godmodding, then i would make them LEARN CHINESE (look up song by Jin Da MC... o wait.. then idiots like DT would start telling me that Chinese rappers arent worth anything... like Chinese missiles. Still, they're worth more than his ass and his bunch of godmodders.. cept mayb UV... hes ok, if stubborn)

China is the future. the big, scary future that will own bitches like DT.
But they dont have enough brains to see it coming.

IC
following a cessation in hostilities, all EI forces were withdrawn form the AO near UV and DT, and were instead diverted to Agrigentian forces, who are fighting a desperate battle in defence of their homeland.

I must agree with several of your statements. I am stubborn (LoL), and in RL China will be the next "big" country. All international affairs experts are telling up and coming students to learn Mandarin Chinese if they plan on entering the international stage. It has one of the fastest growing economies and the largest population; thus it is inevitable that it will not become a very vital player on the international forum.

Its also been said that its liable to colapse, but its always hard to tell this early. If they invade Taiwan... ooo I swear! I may be white, but I'll be on the first boat over there to defend it!

OOC:
If they invade Taiwan, I hope they will at least be financially ruined, very high losses ar epreferable too. Best situaiton would be if by then russia gets fixed and decides it doesnt like illegal immigrants, and wants to rule manchuria again!

OOC
( in joking tone)
dont get ur hopes up, white man.
=)
we know u want to see us die, but if anything, America will probably start a war juss to wipe us Chinese off the earth for good.

=)
stupid men are the best to argue with.\
and even tho most here are smart (if China haters and imperialists) it's been an honor and i hope i may have the chance to lock horns again.

But anyways, Start a new thread if you wish

VERY sry about hijacking ur thread.
VERY SRy.
I WONT RETURN THis time. sry

Invade Taiwan?!?!? :shock: Haven't they been threatening that for years? If China were to invade Taiwan, then the US would jump in full-force.

DT, my forces still in the area are under your control, so use them if you need. I believe they are 4 of my CBG's (exact numbers listed somewhere earlier in this thread).

OOC:
If they invade Taiwan, I hope they will at least be financially ruined, very high losses ar epreferable too. Best situaiton would be if by then russia gets fixed and decides it doesnt like illegal immigrants, and wants to rule manchuria again!

Most marxists that have power are dead now DT.

OOC
( in joking tone)
dont get ur hopes up, white man.
=)
we know u want to see us die, but if anything, America will probably start a war juss to wipe us Chinese off the earth for good.

Start a new thread if you wish

VERY sry about hijacking ur thread.
VERY SRy.
I WONT RETURN THis time. srySrry, but I'm american and the next thing we are gona invade is North Korea. Lets push that damn midget around.Wierd, i actually like china

OOC
( in joking tone)
dont get ur hopes up, white man.
=)
we know u want to see us die, but if anything, America will probably start a war juss to wipe us Chinese off the earth for good.

Start a new thread if you wish

VERY sry about hijacking ur thread.
VERY SRy.
I WONT RETURN THis time. sry
OOC:
Feel free, I dont mind much.


If China invades Taiwan, heres to them being screwed over! *sip*

Im Canadian, I like everyone!

Im Canadian, I like everyone!

Canada's ok, seeing as i have never once met a canadian.


IC: three more fleets are departing to fight fluffy's forces:

Each contains:
1x nimits
7x Ticonderoga
8x Aleigh burke
13x KIDD
18x Oliver perry
2x Missouri
3x virgina sub
4x Seawolf sub
22x support craft.

Nianancio- time moves slooooowly, because I need to engage FLuffywuffy and hes rarely on. So, uhh yeah.OOC: Okay. I can wait an uhh yeah for my fleets to arrive. 8)
Note: That was an attempt at humor.
I posted that I was sending more ships three days ago. How many more do you want me to wait?

Nianancio- time moves slooooowly, because I need to engage FLuffywuffy and hes rarely on. So, uhh yeah.OOC: Okay. I can wait an uhh yeah for my fleets to arrive. 8)
Note: That was an attempt at humor.
I posted that I was sending more ships three days ago. How many more do you want me to wait?
OOC:
3 days ago? Then sorry, it was buried. Then they can be arriving.

Two new Artitsan fleets set out to confront the huge fleet from Nianacio.
1x Pantera Class Carrier
2x J-Class Battleship
4x SluisVan Cruisers (should be replaced :S)
8x Korsar class frigates
18x Lutjens Destroyers
4x K-Series Subs
2x SAN-580 "Father Class" Replenishment ships

(x2)

"Sir, the transports have arrived."
"A lot of good they'll do us now! We just moved away the fleet! What took them so long - were they stuck in a storm?"
"Well, the rain season is approaching, sir..."
"Make sure they don't unload anything until further notice, and keep them out of enemy missile range."
"Yes, sir."
3 days ago? Then sorry, it was buried. Then they can be arriving.OOC: Okay. Maybe I'm too patient when waiting for a reply...

DT simply has its fleet of Nanuchkas, Scorpions, and S-1900's head right for the transports at flank speed (OOC: About 40 knots for them..)

These three fleets are making turns to arrive at the Artisian fleets position in 1 day(and hour).