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"Since the nation of Dark Terror has refused to meet our demands and gan peace, the Empire will begin its invasion of Dark Terror. If Dark Terror dismantles its gulags in the first week of the war, Imperial forces will immediotly cease fire and leave."
President Arthas Terenas

Given access to the Belemian East Coast AND the only river in or out of Dark Terror(DT has no coastline of its own....unless something nuked all the land surrounding him..), A carrior group has taken position at the mouth of the river.
A large military transport fleet (of converted merchant ships) has landed at a deep water port and has dropped the 1st Imperial Legion. A second port has had the 2nd Imperial Legion deployed. A few military bulldozers have flattened unused land 20 miles from the Dark Terror border and built a makeshift runway.

1st and 2nd Imperial Legion forces have begun thier march to several easily defended areas (around the airstrip). Advance Teams have setup AA emplacements aswell as MG nests. 20 A-102s are ready for take off with 40 F-(whatever...forgot) JSFs.

The 3rd and 4th Imperial Legions are being sent ASAP and are do to arive in one week.(the 1st and 2nd got advance notice and thus arived first). The 6th Reserve Legion and 9th Reserve Legion has been activated and will arive in one month

OOC:Each Legion is self-contained and can operate by its self. Each has its own commanders and has commanders for each sub-group. Will post numbers for each when needed.

One thing: dont post in here unlesss you are actualy going to fight. I will get a list from the other thread of the original fighters and list them.

EDIT: List from page 2 (too lazy to look through all 10 pages that appeared overnight)

Pro Agression-
Fluffywuffy
-Rome-
Belem


Anti Agression:
Dark Terror
Ardor
Matich
Lord Edward (I do think he said he wouldnt fight)
Arribastan
Zossen
Artitsa

dont forget that belem sold me some of his land:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91220

forcian armies are up there and ready for war.

For research purposes....you can defend yourself i suppose., but I have no reason to attack you.

OOC:
Belems ignored, so youll have to go through ardor. Ive had enough of him thank you very much.

OOC: YOu forgot me

OOC: YOu forgot me
OOC: I dont know how this is gonna work out (probably ignorefest), but belem does not exist.

Im surrounded by Ardor and still landlocked, though all of belems land apart from 10 miles around me has fallen into the ocean.

OOC:
If belem wants to keep this alive, Ill recognize him if he realizes that:
A. His northern army is being brutalized from the flank and from behind, not being magically allowed to go back inside the wall. In fact it should have been surrounded!
B. In the south, his 40 mile wall of forts is screwed, he had 20,000 defenders left, then send 500,000 reinforcements with 30k tanks and surrounded Artitsan and Bisonic troops before they were relieved. 10,000 artillery systems firing guided rounds could turn his forts into a smoking wreck, and I posted a bombardment before the start of the attack. Then 22k tanks charge as BRM's and whatnot clear the minefields and dragons teeth as the tanks supress any remaining fire.


Otherwise, fluffy has to go through ardor and can expect his fleet to be sunk very quickly.

I, as an ally of DT, will defend him at all costs. Whatever assistance needed, I can send.

(OOC: what about me :x Its been a long enough time for my troops to get there)

OOC: I suggest we pause this war until belem responds to the above
IC: We thank euroslavia, ships and tanks are always in high demand (OOC: ONLY BECAUSE BELEM INSTANTLY MOVES 30K TANKS TO ANY BATTLEFIELD WHERE HES LOSING!)

OOC: All I'm going to say here is that it is truly amazing to have this kind of war RP go 23 pages.

OOC:
23 pages in 3 or so hours :lol:

20 pages of OOC arguing, 3 pages of actual fighting.

I have 5 legions (288,000 ea.) in DT. Bring it on.


The First and 11th legions of Neo Earth has been sent to the Burnel river, while the 2nd and the 13th are in the north, and the 17th entrenched themselves with the Dark Terror armies.


1st Legion:
Legionairres (marines): 230,000
Tank Personel: 30,000
Command: 1,000
Other: 2,000
Tilmex Tanks: 602
Siege Tanks XII: 485
Predetor Tanks: 62
Hummers: 2,169

2nd legion:
Imperial Guard: 130,000
Legionairres: 94,000
Tank Personel: 21,000
Command: 1,000
Other: 2,000
Tilmex Tanks: 501
Siege Tanks XII: 442
Predetor Tanks: 32
Hummers: 1,650

11th Legion:
Imperial Guard: 147,000
Legionairres: 109,000
Tank Personel: 17,000
Command: 1,000
Other: 4,000
Tilmex Tanks: 554
Siege Tanks: 161
Predator:54
Hummers: 3,000

13th legion: 7,000 men, 31 TilMex Tanks, 7 Siege and no predator
IG: 140,000
Legionairres: 117,000
Tnak Personel: 18,000
COmmand: 1,000
Other: 4,000
TIlmex: 569
Siege: 193
Predator: 103

17th Legion:
Imperial Guard: 79,000
Legionairres: 153,000
Tank: 5,000
Command: 1,000
Other:1,000
Tilmex Tanks: 167
Siege Tanks XII: 100
Predetor Tanks: 47
Hummers: 1130

Other FOrces: 4,000 Tilmex tanks, 1/2the River, 1/4 northern front, 1/4 eastern front
1700 Siege Tanks, 1/2 being deployed on the River, 1/3 northern front,
900 Predator Tanks, 1/3 being sent to the river, 1/3 Northern front. 1/3 eastern front


TilMex:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mkowalsk/leo2.jpg
Max Speed: 45 MPH
Armour: Medium-Heavy
Armment:
1 Turrent-Mounted 147 mm Battle Cannon
3 20mm machine guns
Optional:
8 Hellfire Missles
Crew: 5
Driver-1
Gunner-2
Commander-1
Other-1


Siege Tank XII:
[sorry, no pic]
Max Speed:37 mph
Armour: Heavy
Armment: 4 170mm Turrent Mounted Cannons
Optional:
12 Anti-Air Missles
Crew: 6
Driver-1
Gunner-3
Commander-1
Other-1


Predator Tank:
http://www.gobstyks.co.uk/images/Andy-T/AT-Predator.jpg
Max Speed: 49 mph
Armour: Medium
Armment: 65mm Autocannon, 2 30mm machine guns in side sponsons
Crew: 4
Driver-1
Gunner-2
Commander-1

These were brought over by the Coran Navy Fleet:

12 Battleships
13 Nimitz Aircraft Carriers
15 other Aircraft Carriers
32 submarines
20 Nuclear Submarines
45 Destorers


Bisons, how did my men do?

OOC:
Lovely, 4,000 tanks from Arribastan to finally smash belemien troops n the south.
IC:
75 SS-X-26 (very very very modernized scuds, actually a seperate design) missiles and 150 Iskander-E percision missiles are being launched at the new airport.

8 aircraft carrier battle groups are moving towards dark terror to assist him via air, we request permission to use some of dt's airports for our aircraft.

((OOC: *waves a little flag, reading "GO FLUFFYWUFFY!"*

I would participate, but as you all knokw, I'm future tech.))

Heading to DT's defense:
2 Super carrier battle groups, each consisting of:
10 cruisers
10 frigates
15 destroyers
10 tankers
1 super carrier with:
40 su37K carrier launch fighters
40 F/A 18 hornets
10 prowlers
10 Intruders
10 Hawkeyes
10 Sea stallions
4 modified wasp, with
20 Sea Stallions
2,000 marines.
10 LSDs. (not involved with wasp) each with:
5 Abrams
10 modified hummers
25 seawolfs

also, in DT we have:
1,000,000 infantry with M16’s/MG-3’s
4,000 Abrams tanks
2,000 modified hummers
2,000 MLRS
100 EA-24C Transport helicopters
200 EA-32 Light attack helicopters
1 more NS week for the fleets
((resurrected nation))

OOC:
Belem ignored me (PARTY!!!!) so you can go through ardor, who incidentally now surrounds me as Belem has fallen into the ocean.

IC:
DT has thanked its allies Geforce4 and Arribastan, we will begin constructing some new airports to aid in basing the aircraft, although all Bisonic Airports can be used by allies.

In that case, would you like us to send 25 b-2's and 50 F-22's?

good, 200 za-41 advanced strike fighters and 200 Za-35 air-superiorety fighters will land soon for refueling and then proceed with the attacks.

IC:
Sure.
OOC:
Belem ignored me because I didnt post him destroying an army he surrounded( :roll: ). It took 6 months for the germans at stalingrad to be defeated, he thinks he can destroy 22,000 tanks and 1 million elite troops from mixed nationalities in a few NS weeks as a massive relief force is sent?! Bye bye belem.

From: JAC
To: Dark Terror

We will offer you support if you need it, whether financial, equipmental (sp), or military. We can contribute $900 billion, quite a bit of free systems, or large portions of our military.

Looking for a sort of lend-lease deal maybe.

good, 200 za-41 advanced strike fighters and 200 Za-35 air-superiorety fighters will land soon for refueling and then proceed with the attacks.
OOC:
They havent landed yet unless theyre invading ardor, so... but you can attack their ships, which Ill help with once they post wether theyre ignoring or invading ardor.

From: JAC
To: Dark Terror

We will offer you support if you need it, whether financial, equipmental (sp), or military. We can contribute $900 billion, quite a bit of free systems, or large portions of our military.

Looking for a sort of lend-lease deal maybe.
We would like to see what naval systems you can offer, and yes we can return them after the war.

the za-35 and za-41 are taking off for air patrols with the support of 15 Ezh-444MCA Multi-Sensor Command and Control Aircraft
http://www.boeing.com/news/feature/concept/images/k61686.jpg
and 15 Orel AEW&CS aircraft http://www.spyflight.co.uk/images/JPGS/Boeing%20707/707%20Condor%20port.jpg

For naval systems, we can offer:

Built, with crew:
4 Waterloo Class Hovercraft Carriers
15 Dragon Class Destroyers
60 Bow Class Fleet Submarines
12 North-Untouchable Class Battlecruisers
35 Jab Class Stealth Attack Boats

Being built, uncrewed (not including aforementioned):
4 Waterloo Class Hovercraft Carriers
6 Dragon Class Destroyers
30 Bow Class Fleet Submarines
8 North-Untouchable Class Battlecruisers
50 Jab Class Stealth Attack Boats
8 Arrow Class Ballistic Submarines

OOC: EDIT: Changed "Built" to "Being built" for second group.

OOC:
Id suggest scaling it down a bit, to maybe 1/2 its size...
IC:
Excellent, the more submarines, the better.

OOC: Sorry, the second group were ships which we are constructing and/or have the parts for...the first group and an additional 20 Fleet Subs can be mobilized immediately.

OOC:
Oh, then make it "being built" instead of "built"
IC:
We thank Johnston for their support, the submarines will be sent on patrols ASAP.

A huge flotilla speeds across the water towards DT. They do not know what lies in wait for them, but they will be well prepared with 80 subs and numerous ships.

[Secret, none but DT + allies know of this]
An airflottila of six Tlaloc Class bombardment dirigibles and three Duke Class airborne carriers shadow the fleet, preparing to rain hell upon any enemies.

So, if Belems ignored, do we get our casualties back?

So, if Belems ignored, do we get our casualties back?
Certainly. If fluffy and -rome- want to continue this, theyll get a very warm welcome once they go anywhere near ardor.
be back later.

Lets see:

5 legions at 288,000 men each=1.440 million veterens.


And thats forces from Neo Earth alone.

We can also send land and air forces if needed DT, we have them mobilized and ready to land ASAP.

Because spontaneous ignoring your own bitch could be godmodding, claiming millions of acres of land suddenly sank, and a whole new region sprouts out from the Great Plains Alliance (which you originally said was an island) you could be ignored. BUT, because I dont wish to do so, you can show generosity and allow my 1st and 2nd Legion to magicly be on your coastline with a magicly made makeshift runway with magicly made 20 A-102s.

EDIT:

Neo Earth, i would assume that alone would mean that you have puppets. As almost all of NS says, do not us them in actual war threads.

And lets ban nukes in this war. It gets complicated arguing over how we killled just one another (when we all have enough nukes to destroy the whole world)

EDIT 2:

Cya....gonna go play WC3( my B/net name is BurningBlade02)

Neo Earth, i would assume that alone would mean that you have puppets. As almost all of NS says, do not us them in actual war threads.

No. I have 25 legions of 288,000 men each, making a total of 7.2 million soldiers. I have sent 5 legions. My colonies (which I have alot of) are not in this.


Cya....gonna go play WC3( my B/net name is BurningBlade02)

OOC: Frozen throne or normal? I tested frozen throne

My B/net name is toaae

Should this war actually happen, I have accounted my total forces in DT and won't add any unless absolutely needed:

5,000 Bulldog Scout Tanks
20,000 MH3-R9 Mammoth Heavy Tanks
20,000 R-10 Paladin Assault Tanks
40,000 Dominion Guard
10,000 High Dominion Guard

Thats final, they are all waiting in DT.

OOC:
Fluffy, correction on belem: never existed. Never sank either. I ignored him because 1st he said he had 60k tanks, then he said he had 90k tanks, then he pulled more out of his ass. And oh yeah he instantly zipped them around. I mobilized slightly over half of my tank force and a good deal of it was disorganized and promptly got blown to hell, my only real resistance was in the southern front where I was preparing to attack him. And he says I dont RP logistics while zipping around tens of thousands of tanks and hundreds of thousands of troops :roll:

If you want your legions there, I have the following coastlines:
65 miles of what I got from you sometime in june
The Burnel river (30 miles wide as weve filled a good deal of it in at the mouth), 12 miles on either side.

And expect plenty of naval resistance.

OOC: heh, you shoulda made the dark line in paint a little thicker for the river :)

If Dark Terror so desires, the 4 Naval Task Forces sent to his aid in the last thread can enter into this conflict. The modules for a full MOBO (mobile offshore base for operations) are also on their way. The floating base shall be constructed in the nearest waters off Dark Terror and shall be defended by the base's standard defenses as well as the Veritasean fleet. All DT allies are welcome to use this base for their own operations. DT, do you need this help?

OOC-Below is a list of my ships in each battle group, so multiply each number by 8, because there are 2 battle groups in each task force, and 4 task forces are on their way.

2 Nimitz Class Carriers
2 Inchon Class Minesweepers
1 Command Ship
100 Hovercraft Troop Transports
2 Hospital Ships
15 Los Angeles Class Attack Subs
70 Hover Attack Boats
5 Hovercraft Transport Ships
5 Amphibious Assault Ships
15 Arleigh Burke AEGIS Class Destroyers
15 Visby Class Corvettes
6 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
8 Replenishment Vessels
2 Submarine tenders
4 Iowa Class Battleships
6 Arsenal Ships
60 Pegasus Patrol Craft
10 Sea Shadow Assault Ships
2 Helicopter Assault Ships


Aerial Assets:
30 X-29's
20 F-117 Nighthawks (CTOL Version)
30 UV-00 Archangels
30 F-22 Sea Raptors
30 F-14 Ultra Tomcats
20 F/A-18 Super Hornets
10 AC-150 Tankers
10 CSA (ELINT, AEW, ASW, LOGISTICS)
5 EA-6B Prowlers
20 Sea Kings VIP/ASW Helos
100 V-22 Osprey
25 UH-60 Blackhawks
40 CH-46 Sea Knights
30 CH-53 Sea Stallions
2 SH-3 SAR Helicopter
6 UH-1 Marine Corp Helicopters
6 AH-1 Marine Corp Helicopters

http://www.angelfire.com/music5/drunk_man/banners/banner_Veritas.gif
"I see in your eyes the same fear that would take
the heart of me. There may come a day when
the courage of men fails; when we forsake our
friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is
not this day. This day, we fight!”
-the Lord Aragorn, before the final battle for
Veritasean independence

OOC:
Truth told, im somewhat interested in keeping this war alive, so hopefully fluffy and I will come to a middle ground.
IC:
Dark Terror has thanked UV for its support in this conflict, and we will gladly accept the naval units.

I WILL SEND AN ADDITIONAL 25 cheeta advanced tech fighters, My 1st fleet navy....2 aircraft carriers,2 assault carriers, 4 aegis destroyers, 6 subs, my special forces airborne snipers, and heavy assault forces. 250 main battle tanks will back up the ground troops.

OOC-Good good, I've been dying for a decent RP for quite some time.

IC- The naval forces have arrived at the waters nearest to DT [do we happen to have a map by any chance?]. The MOBO is being put together as this is typed. All carriers have doubled their standard CAP, and the seabase should be complete within 2 NS days (say, about 15 minutes).

OOC II- Once the RP gets going I'll post more detailed actions.

OOC:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/329267/warmap.jpg
Belem is now Ardorian territory (well 25 miles around me anyway- th erest of the land never existed!, but in the far West I have 65 miles of coastline, and the Burnel river is now fully Bisonic, 30 miles wide at the mouth (we filled a good deal of it in) and 12 miles on either side.

So your nation is practically surrounded by enemy territory? This could get interesting.... Your coastline could also come in handy.... If you need anything from my forces, just let me know through TG's.

My 2nd fleet is on standby, and could arrive in 1 week if requested.

This one includes:

3 carriers
2 battleships
4 destroyers
4 aegis cruisers
6 attack subs
2 nuclear missle subs
2 assault ships
2 frigates
1 ammo supply ship

3rd and 4th fleets also include these ships:

3 carriers
2 battleships
4 destroyers
4 aegis cruisers
6 attack subs
2 nuclear missle subs
2 assault ships
2 frigates
1 ammo supply ship

However they are at least 1 to 1 1/2 months away.

So your nation is practically surrounded by enemy territory? This could get interesting.... Your coastline could also come in handy.... If you need anything from my forces, just let me know through TG's.
OOC:
Ardor is very friendly territory.

Oh, so is Ardor a country? And if so, and its friendly, then why is Belem now considered friendly soil? I'm rather confused.... :(

do you have some air bases deep in your territory that i could fly my bombers to? Also, do you wish for them to be loaded with advanced tac nuclear weapons or just conventional weapons?

Oh, so is Ardor a country? And if so, and its friendly, then why is Belem now considered friendly soil? I'm rather confused.... :(OOC: never existed so his land is either controlled by Artitsa (who said hed move his country there), Ardor (who controlled it before belem existed in early april), or Acrena (country north of belem- probably hostile). Probably Ardor as he controlled it before belem existed and since belem doesnt exist, he controls it. Its gonna be a naval slugfest as fluffy tries to land troops.
IC:
Amricaan- your fleets are welcome, as the more naval units w ehave, the better.

Its gonna be a naval slugfest


My favorite kind... :twisted:

My submarines will use the MOBO for refueling, etc. as will the rest of my fleet. The dirigibles and planes are mostly self-sufficient but will land at bases in Bisonic territory if necessary. The subs will patrol both coastlines (or coastline and river) of Dark Terror, and will sink any non-Allied incoming ships, concentrating on transports.

The nations of The United States of Independent Hitmen and the Holy Empire of Abrams (not a puppet, we go to school together and are typing this as he is seated next to me) will support Dark Terror is so wished. Unfortunately many USIH forces are currently engaged in actions so will be unale to help but Abrams forces can be relied upon.

OOC: My m8 will post with Abrams when he gets home.

Construction of the MOBO is complete. The defense net has been set up, using interlaced ship-based, land-based, and MOBO-based radar and sonar. No detailed information on the location of individual ships or subs has been released to the public as of yet. The Veritasean Royal Navy is still at an increased state of alert and shall remain so for the indefinite future. Several other Task Forces are moving towards the conflict area currently. All civilian travel into DT, Ardor, or Belem has been suspended. The Veritasean embassy in DT (I'm just gonna assume there is one) has more than doubled security, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has issued a warning to any citizens within the affected countries to leave as soon as possible.

OOC-I agree, let's keep this war non-nuclear. I shall be landing no troops (don't really have that many), but my ships are there in full force. Anything moving near the MOBO (as of now, the centerpoint of my forces) will be fired upon, unless identified as a friendly force. All my AEGIS ships, and my subs, have a system that interlocks their radar or sonar "take" and relays it to the other ships and to the MOBO (kinda like the IVIS system in tanks).

OOC:
UV, theres no need for troops. I have plenty of them as it is.

Alrighty....well I can increase my naval presence as we see fit. Also, check Tgrams when you get a chance.

My 3rd and 4th fleet should be in port in 3 days. Mean while, we have started a massive drag net of anti submarine warfare in our path. If there is a sub in the area it better i.d itself pronto, as we will attack first ask later. Also my p3's from 1st fleet have dropped a massive amount of sonor bouys, forming 2 rings of detection, one at 100 miles one at 50 miles off coast, with patrols by anti sub assets inbetween. My snipers have set up, and are ready to take out any landing parties, as well as the line of tanks.

UV we should have a pretty good net cast now with our combined forces.

That will give those sailors some real terror when the start dropping like flies from my snipers. They won't even hear the shot.

Commodore Marlow has been placed in charge of all Veritasean forces. His command will be based on the MOBO (known henceforth as Ravendhi). It should also be known, that Ravendhi has built-in sonar equipment as well as radars. A signal will begin being sent out to all allied forces to be used as an IFF transmitter. If a vessel is not transmitting this certain signal, and the officers aboard Ravendhi have no prior knowledge of the craft, then it will be fired upon heavily. Not only are the large warships and jets patrolling the area, but small craft, such as hover patrol craft, and Pegasus patrol craft, are scouring the area, ready to be called in to deal with any small threat immediately.

Hmm, we have a prototype air cushion missile boat. Maybe we should build some more...

I am back (had a lot of HW....damn health and IPS).

Any combat since my last post never happened....I see my legions and airsttrip are magicly in an area of the land I gave to DT (as I beleve he agreeed to).

So now...because several nations agreed to send troops to DT, my guess is that anyone that has even heard of DT has sent anything because of peer pressure. DT, we should come up with a list of people that actualy exist in this fight and what they sent. Once we get that list (to be done in this topic so all will see it) we can actualy begin the fight that I will (probably...almost 99% sure) lose do to sheer numbers.

As for the legions I sent....let me tell you what each is divided up into:
(commander rank shown on right)

Sqaud: (12 men a piece) High Private
Lance-(20 M1A3, 10 MRLS M270, 5 M2 IFV, 5 M3, 40 Tracked Support Vehicle)Lance Commander
Platoon: (5 sqaud+1 lance) Commander
Light Army (20 platoons, ) 2nd Commander
Cohort (4 Light Army) High Commander
Throng (4 Cohorts) General, 1 Eagle
Legion (5 Throngs) General, 2 Eagles

NOTE:Tracked SUpport Vehicles supply fuel, ammo, etc. Most TSVs also come with trailers so that they can carry even more supplies....MRLSs also can tow trailers (as they are artillery they stay towards the rear of combat and are thus safer) Also, each commander for everything above the sqaud gets his own customized command vehicle.

One last thing....I hope this war lasts along time. I want it to last long enough for each of us to be building new prototype weapons and actualy field them

Good luck and Have fun

Okay, just so its known, I want my name on the final list. I did not enter because of peer pressure, I happen to be an ally of DT and joined of my own free will. Also, Fluffywuffy, are you sending any naval assets, or will my ships be designated to bombardment of land targets and aerial strikes?

DT, I sell an air cushion missile boat at my store thread. I've found them highly effective, and because each has its own radar system and they are interlinked, they can be very effective at blockades, or port defense. Perhaps at some point you and I can collaborate to produce an even better one.

Okay, just so its known, I want my name on the final list. I did not enter because of peer pressure, I happen to be an ally of DT and joined of my own free will. Also, Fluffywuffy, are you sending any naval assets, or will my ships be designated to bombardment of land targets and aerial strikes?

DT, I sell an air cushion missile boat at my store thread. I've found them highly effective, and because each has its own radar system and they are interlinked, they can be very effective at blockades, or port defense. Perhaps at some point you and I can collaborate to produce an even better one.

Its gonna be a naval slugfest


My favorite kind... :twisted:
my best kind. my military is mostly my navy 8) this is gonna be sweet

OOC:
Agreed, though well end up invading you after blowing these legions into pieces. Anyone who sends troops they can realistically afford/transport exists on either side, no space tech and hopefully we can agree to no nukes. You should send a brief Tgram to Feline asking for help, he sent troops to help Belem and should help you, maybe Edolia will join in..

I should make a more detailed map of DT in paint (tommorow probably will), anyway your legions can have landed on my 65 miles of coast I got from you a while ago due to some magentic storm frying my radars (some random reason) or something. Ill send a response of Shock Troops to drive them back into the sea, don't worry.

DT, do you need myself?

I did send them...I would think you would assume they are also magicly near the men...I wont list those yet because i never found out exactly what is part of a RL carrier group. Once i finally find out I will draw up my own (do to the fact that I have custom ships etc.). Also, I must organize my Air Force...BRB in 30 minutes or so (will still be online just AFK)

DT, what is the war about? 8)

OOC: If you need me, i'll send a more realistic number of troops this time.

DT, do you need myself?
Certainly, naval units most appreciated.

Fluffy- yes, you can have some ships near the men, but theyll be sunk very quickly (well, the time it takes for Bisonic ships in port a few hundred miles away to get in range, I use leased naval bases and have an island on the other side of Dark Terror for this).

DT, what is the war about? 8)

OOC: If you need me, i'll send a more realistic number of troops this time.
Fluffy trying to do what belem did, only he goes about it realistically.

Wed prefer naval and air units to ground forces as we have plenty.
OOC:
Thats good, and no orbital cannons this time!

http://spaulding.thexgn.com/carrier.JPG

20 Carriers Loaded with 30 F-15's each have been activated and need a location. Waiting for your word DT.

http://spaulding.thexgn.com/f_15e.jpeg

OOC: Belem was the one with the orbital nukes :shock:

IC: I'm willing to send at this time...

1 Destroyer
2 Carriers (40 F-15s each)
10 submarines.

OOC:
F-15's arent carrier capable!

OOC: Sure they are.. these ones are..
I guess I need to buy some Carrier Compatible Aircrafts.. Who shall sell me some?

Ok, bisons I am on the list (your not going to turn down one of your oldest allies and 1,440,000 of his best troops, are you?)


For Logistics, I may have to use bison's, until I can transport over.


My legions:


The First and 11th legions of Neo Earth has been sent to the Burnel river, while the 2nd and the 13th are in the north, and the 17th entrenched themselves with the Dark Terror armies.


1st Legion:
Legionairres (marines): 253,000
Tank Personel: 32,000
Command: 1,000
Other: 2,000
Tilmex Tanks: 602
Siege Tanks XII: 485
Predetor Tanks: 62
Hummers: 2,169

2nd legion:
Imperial Guard: 150,000
Legionairres: 114,000
Tank Personel: 21,000
Command: 1,000
Other: 2,000
Tilmex Tanks: 501
Siege Tanks XII: 442
Predetor Tanks: 32
Hummers: 1,650

11th Legion:
Imperial Guard: 153,000
Legionairres: 110,000
Tank Personel: 20,000
Command: 1,000
Other: 4,000
Tilmex Tanks: 554
Siege Tanks: 161
Predator:54
Hummers: 3,000

13th legion:
IG: 146,000
Legionairres: 119,000
Tnak Personel: 18,000
COmmand: 1,000
Other: 4,000
TIlmex: 592
Siege: 201
Predator: 103

17th Legion:
Imperial Guard: 108,000
Legionairres: 168,000
Tank: 10,000
Command: 1,000
Other:1,000
Tilmex Tanks: 167
Siege Tanks XII: 100
Predetor Tanks: 47
Hummers: 1130

Other F0rces: 6,000 Tilmex tanks, 1/2the River, 1/4 northern front, 1/4 eastern front
2000 Siege Tanks, 1/2 being deployed on the River, 1/3 northern front,
900 Predator Tanks, 1/3 being sent to the river, 1/3 Northern front. 1/3 eastern front


TilMex:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mkowalsk/leo2.jpg
Max Speed: 45 MPH
Armour: Medium-Heavy
Armment:
1 Turrent-Mounted 147 mm Battle Cannon
3 20mm machine guns
Optional:
8 Hellfire Missles
Crew: 5
Driver-1
Gunner-2
Commander-1
Other-1


Siege Tank XII:
[sorry, no pic]
Max Speed:37 mph
Armour: Heavy
Armment: 4 170mm Turrent Mounted Cannons
Optional:
12 Anti-Air Missles
Crew: 6
Driver-1
Gunner-3
Commander-1
Other-1


Predator Tank:
http://www.gobstyks.co.uk/images/Andy-T/AT-Predator.jpg
Max Speed: 49 mph
Armour: Medium
Armment: 65mm Autocannon, 2 30mm machine guns in side sponsons
Crew: 4
Driver-1
Gunner-2
Commander-1

These were brought over by the Coran Navy Fleet:

12 Battleships
13 Nimitz Aircraft Carriers
15 other Aircraft Carriers
32 submarines
20 Nuclear Submarines
45 Destorers

I see the list is Yurka, Seed, and Neo Earth...put down 3 more and we should be ready. BTW dont bother killing my navy until I list it....for now leave any warring on the ground

Damn carrier groups. I can never find any list for them *gets pissed* :x

The five carrier groups I was sending to Belem (You can pretend I'm speaking gibberish if you ignore Belem...) will be sent near DT. Fluffywuffy, don't shoot them; they'll do you no harm. DT, don't shoot them; they're not an immediate threat to you.
Secret IC: Twenty more carrier groups will be leaving Nianacio for the same destination. The carriers will be carrying a battalion (yea, that's all) of ground forces, and the subs will be carrying special forces and SASs (15), SDSs (15), SSs (10), and one DRS.
More are being prepared for the voyage.
Maybe I should call them LCGs (Light Carrier Groups) so people don't occasionally yell at me for having so many carriers...
DT, do you need myself?My translaters find this (http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/myself.html) page to be quite helpful when they can't remember the differences between me, myself, and I.
OOC: Sure they are.. these ones are..OOC: Carrier aircraft need lots of strengthening to withstand the forces of catapult launches and arrested landings, so they won't perform as well than the original F-15.

OOC: Belem was the one with the orbital nukes :shock:

IC: I'm willing to send at this time...

1 Destroyer
2 Carriers (40 F-15s each)
10 submarines.

OOC: Alright! What kind are? Or is it possible to fly F-15s to your nation from way up North? Alright then. I'll cancel the carriers for now untill i can think of a better fighter to put on them. Unless i can use my VTOLs?

2 Destroyers
30 Submarines*

So since I have moved Artitsa into Belem's land (more comefy) would you like some help DT?

I think you need a whole new carrior for VTOLs....I know STOL aircraft needed a new carrior design. I am typing up my navy now....this may take a LONG time (gotta find how much bigger my unenlarged for over 20 weeks navy is compared to the US navy then i must convert there numbers to my custom ships...)

Unless i can use my VTOLs?Probably...although I hope you don't try.
I think you need a whole new carrior for VTOLs....Nah; you just squeeze a bunch of them on the flight deck and make sure to leave some extra room around each one.

All Sam sites around Artitsa have gone on high alert. Also, 10,000 new sites are being built (at a cost of 3 Billion) and a further 5000 are being brought online as this is sent. Artitsas army has been mobalized and all Wolf Packs activated.

ooc: Wolf pack = 2 Rose class Pocket Battleships, 12 Lutjens Destroyers, 4 K-Series subs. There are about 8 of these packs all in seperate naval bases.

OOC: Eh who needs aircraft 8) I gladly supplied a small portion of my navy :)

(rubbing crystal ball in gypsy outfit)

**I foresee an ignorefest transpiring and in the near future**

(sept nations with million man armies, 25 legions of 288K, 30 carriers...{sneezing} BS!)

:lol:

I dont think anyone sent 25 legions....

Neo Earth (a February nation) has 25 legions but sent five of them.

If he does have 25 legions of 288,000 men thats...7,200,000 men total.
5 legions lands you 1,440,000 men; 5 legions is about 65% of my ENTIRE ground army combined (including reserves and marines). 25 legions amount to 327% of my ground forces.

EDIT: a good bunch of them must be non-combatants I assume.

we suppor Fluffywuffy in this issue. Altough we are still neutral. We will send a task force of 6 L.A and 12 Alpha class subs ot watch.

we suppor Fluffywuffy in this issue. Altough we are still neutral. We will send a task force of 6 L.A and 12 Alpha class subs ot watch.

Go for it. You use any military in agression and expect to lose those outdated submarines of yours. I have so many ASW Destroyers, cruisers, Helicopters, and aircraft it would make you cry.

(rubbing crystal ball in gypsy outfit)

**I foresee an ignorefest transpiring and in the near future**

(sept nations with million man armies, 25 legions of 288K, 30 carriers...{sneezing} BS!)

:lol:If you are referring to Arribastan, he's resurrected

I have advanced tech planes that are aircraft capable I will sell you.

(rubbing crystal ball in gypsy outfit)

**I foresee an ignorefest transpiring and in the near future**

(sept nations with million man armies, 25 legions of 288K, 30 carriers...{sneezing} BS!)

:lol:

When you got the money, 338 million people, and forced military service....it's poss.

DT: in my absence, all aircraft and ground troops will take orders from you. All naval vessels from

But then they are all consricpted and take like 10 to kill one of the better, non-conscripted men that are actualy given good training

OOC:
Nianancio, I surely wont notice 20 extra carriers, will I? :roll: :roll:

Fluffy- list em so I can show you how my maritime strike force operates.

Hold up one sec...

Destroyer Sqaudron (2 DDG, 1 DD)
Frigate Sqaudron (5 FFG)
Cruiser Sqaudrons (4 CGs)
PT Sqaud (5 PT-04)
Submarine Groups (2 Ohio Class, 3 Sea Wolf, 8 LA Class, 4 Sturgean Class, 3 SS-01 4 PT Sqauds)
Carrier Group (4 CVNX, 2 Cruiser Sqauds, 4 Frigate Sqauds, 10 Destroyer Sqauds, 4 Submarine Groups)

A CVNX is the RL improved Nimitz class that is actualy slated for construction in either 2005 or 2006 (cant remeber). Each holds 70 CTOL aircraft and (I think...) 100 STOL. I arm each with a Combo of 40 CTOL and 40 STOL

I think I had 2 Groups (bye-bye 8 5 billion dollar ships... :cry: )

Hold up one sec...

Destroyer Sqaudron (2 DDG, 1 DD)
Frigate Sqaudron (5 FFG)
Cruiser Sqaudrons (4 CGs)
PT Sqaud (5 PT-04)
Submarine Groups (2 Ohio Class, 3 Sea Wolf, 8 LA Class, 4 Sturgean Class, 3 SS-01 4 PT Sqauds)
Carrier Group (4 CVNX, 2 Cruiser Sqauds, 4 Frigate Sqauds, 10 Destroyer Sqauds, 4 Submarine Groups)

A CVNX is the RL improved Nimitz class that is actualy slated for construction in either 2005 or 2006 (cant remeber). Each holds 70 CTOL aircraft and (I think...) 100 STOL. I arm each with a Combo of 40 CTOL and 40 STOL

I think I had 2 Groups (bye-bye 8 5 billion dollar ships... :cry: )

Considering my entire fleet will be out for their blood...
• 37 Sovremenny Destroyers
• 24 Tikhiy Stealth Destroyers
• 30 Oscar 3 Attack Submarines
• 3 XEV-NAC carriers
• 12 Yekaterinburg Carriers
• 15 Kirov Missile Battleships
• 20 Soyuz III Heavy Missile Battleships
• 10 Mikhail-I battlecruisers
• 52 Udaloy II class frigates
• 20 Korsar class frigates

Yep, bye-bye!

ooc: I want to see these fireworks!

200 small Titan class torpedo boats as well as 25 SPRUCE class destroyers, with 4 volga class(55 knots) subs are being deployed

Admiral Ron Darkslayer, onboard the INV-CD04 [i]Thundersword]/i], his flagship, discusses what can be done to combat the apraoching DT navy.

'We've got maybe a day or two to come up with a plan. Heres where we stand:the enemy fleet is armed with missle weapons and, as I believe, it has no aircraft. We have 160 F-14s and..*looks at computer*...160 F-15s (the latest variety, I forget the letter) and 360 JSFs on all of our carriers. I'd rather the aircraft not be used yet."

Lt. Admiral Timothy Sanders speaks up, "We can fire Tomahwaks. ALmost everything but the PT boats can fire them. ANd that reminds me....how fast can those new PTs we have go? What can they do?"

"Well, they are quite speedy. I think they could go at 90 knots. Very stealthy. Hey...we've got the entire PT force here....thats over a hundred of the damned things. I've got an idea....the torpedos an those things are brand new, correct?"

"Yes Admiral"

"Well, even if they werent new, the four torpedoes on just one are enough to sink a capitol ship. Hell, even a single well placed torpedo can kill a capitol ship"

"I see your plan, Ron! We can get the PTs quickly into the enemy fleet and do tremendous damage to the Kirovs, Missle Battleships, and carriers."

"PTs have generaly been thrown away by navies for bigger toys....yet they can still be effective. *To random officer guy* get me our exact PT numbers!"

Random Officer Guy: "Aye, aye sir!*insert brief time of small talk here* We have 132 PT boats sir."

"Thanks. So we've got the all of them?"

"Yes sir."

"We are better off than I expected. Send them out now. Order them to hit the enemy carriers, battlecruisers, and missle battleships as primary targets. Destroyers and frigates are secondary."

"Aye, aye sir!"

The 132 PT boats rush towards the DT fleet at top speed (which is roughly 90 mph). The boats head past all defending ships, with a few firing returning shots (each is armed with four modern torpedoes).

Casualties so far:
4 of my PTS sunk

I have to go (post made as I leave) Good luck (i advise your ships dont launch aircraft or fire missles. Just man those MG emplacements and try to mow the ships down.)

OOC-*mimics dog prancing around in anticipation of a treat* Oh, can I get the enemy ships? Can i? Can I? Can I? Fluffy, sending in any navy is just a waste of money and lives, have you not seen the total number of ships in the immediate area? Hell, you could probably walk from ship to ship without ever getting your feet wet. Also, I've yet to see my name added to the list of countries definitely in this one, I shall not be left out!

Lima Beens, you'd better hope that your ships come nowhere near the MOBO, because as I stated before, any ship not flashing the IFF signal shall be fired upon without hesitation, and somehow I don't believe that your old ships will stand a chance against my fully up to date, not to mention far more numerous, fleet.

Well, since DT isn't around, I think I'll make a post concerning my navy

IC- *aboard the Ravendhi*

"Commodore Marlow! We've got a very large number of ships on the edge of our radar net," a young officer reported in the command center of the MOBO.
"What are they?" was Marlow's response.
"Not quite sure sir, some sort of small, fast craft."
"Alright, are they headed for us?"
"Negative sir, they appear to be headed towards the DT navy."
"Alright, well then they probably don't know we're around. Let's show them who the real sheriffs are. Launch some X-29's and have them strafe the little bastards. I want some attack helicopters after them as well. After that, have some of our own hydrofoil and hovercraft patrol boats engage them."
"Aye, sir."

The Veritasean Royal Fleet's communcations net then became highly active. A flight of 20 X-29's [a very, very maneuverable fighter, utilizing forward-swept wing technology] streaked over the Fluffy ships, and dropped torpedos. Afterwards, the jets streaked low, strafing the ships as they went. Following this, 10 attack helicopters moved in, targetting the remaining ships. Once the helos were out of ammo, they returned to their carriers, and two waves of Pegasus patrol craft and hover patrol craft moved in. 3 X-29's were lost, and 1 attack helicopter. The battle of the patrol crafts is just about to begin.

(rubbing crystal ball in gypsy outfit)

**I foresee an ignorefest transpiring and in the near future**

(sept nations with million man armies, 25 legions of 288K, 30 carriers...{sneezing} BS!)

:lol:

When you got the money, 338 million people, and forced military service....it's poss.

and I have 1.3 billion, the money and with a forced military service means I would wax you?

Lieutenant Craig Peters sat in one of the attack class submarines awaiting orders just off of DT shores, "We'll be sure to give em hell! Remember to fight with honor for Yurka!" He sat back in his chair, awaiting orders from the nation of DT. He was only a lieutenant, but this war may be just the thing to skyrocket his courier.

OOC: Dark Terror, i'd like to know where your main naval fleet is so that i may properly place my destroyers. Feel free to move them around as you see fit, along with my 30 submarines.

OOC:
Fluffy, hate to burst your bubble, but your PT boats dont have the range to go halfway around the world to DT. Well, you can bother refueling them, but theyll get blown to pieces before doing any damage anyway...

Besides, Ive had anti stealth radar since may (well and displacement tracker sattelites since august)! New reef called 90 PT boats coming right up! :lol:

Oh yeah, everything larger than a destroyer has double hulls.
IC:
On the bridge of the BNS Khabarovsk:


*A screen shows the dots representing the PT boats heading at the Bisonic Fleet, moving at 90 knots*

"Admiral, the fast atta--"

"I noticed, tbe displacement tracker sattelites picked them up just 20 minutes ago. Possible courses of action?"

"Railgun fire, tactical nuclear weapons, aerial attack, anti-ship missiles"

"Order the destroyers to open fire with their railguns once these come into range, and ask for several squadrons of Su-39's"

"Da admiral..."

OOC:
Also, can we pause the ground war for a little bit so I can draw a map?

The USSS has no desire to see the brave nation of Fluffywuffy pummelled relentlessly into the ground by the bully Dark Terror and his so-called "friends," not to mention the legions of smaller countries who were no doubt "enticed" into offering aid to him in the first place.

Unfortunately, as battle has already begun, we do not see how we could greatly affect the outcome of the war; it may already be too late. Nonetheless, we pledge our support to Fluffywuffy in the form of naval and ground forces. Approximately half of the Great People's Navy has now set steam towards the engagement area as fast as is feasible, aiming to combine and coordinate with the Fluffywuffian navy already in the area. Currently the standing army is being mustered and the enormous fleet/air arm required to bring them to Dark Terror assembled around the southern coast of Skepticism.

The fleet elements we are sending consist of:

20 Progressive-class battleships, armed with 18-inch cannon and cruise missiles
5 Proletariat's Pride-class aircraft carriers, each capable of carrying 80 rather small Pirahna fighters
35 Revolutionary-class missile cruisers, also armed with 16-inch cannon
130 Collective-class destroyers
7 Shield-class antimissile cruisers
15 Sacrifice-class special ships
30 Manta Ray-class attack submarines

All save the submarines are trimaran vessels, with all the inherant benefits, and the entire navy runs under the UNITY system, which uses a vast array of radars and infrared/laser communication devices in order that every single ship shares the targeting telementary of every other ship, allowing for greatly increased accuracy, especially concerning cannon, as well as aiding coordination of antimissile defense.

The Sacrifice ships are essentially extremely tough vessels (we're talking about multiple feet of armor everywhere) which are designed to reflect radar extremely well (making them look like aircraft carriers, in fact), and absolutely bristling with electronics which make it appear to be everything from, again, an aircraft carrier to an Aegis ship.

Also let it be known that our ships are armed with a new and devastating weapon the likes of which you know not. If we are forced to resort to it, you will not be happy.

Hang on, brave Fluffywuffy! The stalwart socialists of the USSS fly to your aid!

OOC: A map would be good. I must also compliment you, DT, on what seems to be a pretty good RP so far, with no Godmodding whatsoever on your part. I may have to stop disliking you so much soon.

OOC:
Map more or less showing what needs to be shown (most of Dark Terror, including this part, is steppes. Good for tank v tank warfare. Sorry about the fact it was drawn in paint)

Heres the map:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/329267/warmap1.jpg

Seedling B-2's need to land, DT, Can I keep them in your territory for now?

Sure.

OOC: Are you going to initiate the plan that was supposed to be put on Belem?

Where would you like me to put my 2 destroyers and 30 submarines DT?

Have the 2 destroyers join the Bisonic Fleet, move the submarines close to the fleet as well.

The entire naval force joins up with the Bisonic Fleet. Staying behind the main fleet and protecting the flank. Craig Peters was looking forward to the upcoming conflict. It was surely a good way to train the troops.

I'm with DT, as always. My entire navy, army, and airforce is being mobilized.

DT....the way I'm seeing it is your ships (and the others donated by countries, but still under your control) are on the right side of your coastline, and mine are on the left. Anything entering from the left or the center will be engaged by my fleet and any craft aboard the MOBO. Also, any other friendly countries are welcome to RP with the MOBO, its a base for all, not just Veritasean forces.

I'm with DT, as always. My entire navy, army, and airforce is being mobilized.
Just send the navy.

Captain Alar: Admiral, what do you want my submarines to do.

Admiral Teshnik: Well, since you let the PTs by you, CHASE THEM AND GIVE THEM F***ING HELL!

Captain Alar: Is that an order?

Admiral Teshnik: Yes.

[secret] The Fleet Submarines move towards the PTs, hoping to sink as many as possible. In addition, Duke Class airborne carriers launch fighters at the PTs. Tlaloc Class dirigibles fire obscene amounts of ammunition and explosives at the enemy. A lone Tlaloc hovers over the enemy fleet. It would be a sacrifice.

OOC: I hope nobody minds if I use neutron weapons. They are a major part of the Tlaloc's preventative systems, and have a small blast, so properly prepared men can survive.

Gotcha.

DT....the way I'm seeing it is your ships (and the others donated by countries, but still under your control) are on the right side of your coastline, and mine are on the left. Anything entering from the left or the center will be engaged by my fleet and any craft aboard the MOBO. Also, any other friendly countries are welcome to RP with the MOBO, its a base for all, not just Veritasean forces.
My ships are off the Ardorian coast, yours are off the Artitsan coast (see map).

Fluffywuffy

If you should need any assistance to hold some enemies off, let the embassy of Phyrric know. Financial assistance and military power will be made available to you upon request.

Pyrrhus

The Rainmaker, a Tlaloc class, has now been shadowing the Fluffy Fleet for a while. The captain has prepared a broadcast:

Fluffywuffy:

If your fleet and other military forces around Dark Terror do not immediately stand down, we will regrettably be forced to use deadly force to eradicate your threat.

Now that the official bit is over, a translation:

If you don't get out of here, we'll neutron shell your sorry little butts. Regrettably, we on this airship will be forced to abandon it, but we will have killed a lot of you guys.

--End Transmission--

[secret] The Duke, an airborne aircraft carrier, is escorting the Rainmaker so it is not so vulnerable to carriers.

OOC:
Nianancio, I surely wont notice 20 extra carriers, will I? :roll: :roll:OOC: I hope you will (I mean, no I don't, but it wouldn't say something very good about you if you didn't :lol:), but by not officially sending them yet, I have some extra time.
Besides, Ive had anti stealth radar since may (well and displacement tracker sattelites since august)! New reef called 90 PT boats coming right up! :lol:Which is not good enough to target stealth vessels.

*back aboard the Ravendhi MOBO*

"Well, what's the damage report for our attack against those damn PT boats?" demanded Commodore Marlow.
"Sir, we're not quite sure yet, intel is still collecting data," an Ensign reported tenatively.
"All those intel weenies ever do is collect data. It'd be nice if we were to see some of their collected data once in a while," Marlow fumed.

"Sir, we're getting large blips on the outer edge of our radar. They are not, repeat not, flashing the IFF signal. Assessment is that these are full-size ships of war..."

Aboard the Seedling Flagship, St.Xavier

" General Fletcher, sir, our B-52's are safely on the ground in DT's territory.", states General Flechers assistant.

" Excellent, thats a weight off my shoulders. We should look into funding on a carrier that can hold those giants."

"Somewhat impossible sir.. the length of the takeoff ramp would be enormous."

" Yes Yes I know. Anyways, make sure the 1st Capital Regiment arrived in DT safely and our carriers have everything they need. I will be meeting with the President in 0800 hours and I would prefer if you were present, so I don't get my foot caught up my ass."

"Yes sir, I shall be their with bells on."

"If you wear bells... *under his breathe*I'll kick your ass"

"Sir?"

----------

It was by PT boat that General McArthur sailed out of the Philipines during WWII. Granted he used WWII technology to take him over 200 miles (I think...I may be totaly wrong on this) without refueling; it is pretty safe to assume I can send over 100 PTs on a suicide mission (I dont want/need them back; they will probably do enough damage to cripple your navy if you deploy aircraft. ).

As for Sketch..it is apreciated. I guess I could use an ally about now....

A few things about PT boats:
In WWI (yes, I, not II) two PT boats from the Italian navy sunk the Austrian navy's most powerful battleship even though PT boats are little more than speed boats with guns and torpedoes (guns are MGs). In WWII they killed off ships several times thier size by simply using speed to avoid hits and then shooting torpedoes. During the Cold War, I think they fell into disuse do to submarines that had even more stealth. However, they are cheaply made.

And correct me if I am wrong, but dont radars use some sorta wave (sound I think) to find targets? And doesnt stealth work by absorbing the waves and/or sending them away from the radar? I mean, B-2s CAN be detected on radar, but they appear to have the same radar signature as a bug. If you can see them on radar, you also see bugs and all other things on radar.

So if my PTs are fast moving, small wooden (yes, PTs are wooden) objects with a low silhouette, would they have a large signature or a small one? I know they wouldnt be the bugs.

IC:
PTs enter the DT navy (if they havent already). The LA (and I thinkk these can too) Sea Wolf subs surface, fire Tomahawks, and submerge.
All the CG (Ticonderoga class) ships fire a few Tomahawks as well.

All together, a combined 500 missles were launched.

100 Anne-Coulter class fighters are en route towards the FluffyWuffy forces.

Don't worry, Dark Terror: the NCA is behind you.

IC again (too lazy too edit)

Another two carrier groups arive. They escort the transports of the 3rd and 4th Imperial Legions to shore and join up with the rst of the fleet. Extra supply ships distribute the experimental MX-04 anti-ship missle to all Ticonderoga class vessels.

Factories at home have been fullly transformed for war and have begun producing weapons. Defense spending has increased. A total of 12 new shipyards are underway.

EDIT:
"We will not stand down. It would be an act of cowrardice on our part if we were to surrendor. Neigh I say, We will fight until it is not possible for us to fight"
-President Arthas

I know huge deriggables were able to carry four or so biplanes, but I dont see any blimps carrying the same as a carrier and not being vulnerable (a.k.a. bigger then the state of Texas).
Regardless of your sky carriers size, 40 F-14s are en route to shoot down the things.

PT casualties so far:
20 sunk
13 damaged (but still functional)

Fluffywuffy:
ooc: i hate to say it but while small motor boats can be devastating they are also hideously vunerable to CIWS fire.

but then a massive swarm could still work unless DT uses something like oikerlon's new 35mm system (which claims some scarily high kill numbers at 4km)

2 Allanean supercarriers and 3 SSBN's are en route.

In the meanwhile, the Coulters launch 4 Yakhont-3 missiles each at the FW carriers as soon they are in missile range (circa 350 miles).

And if you hadnt posted what weapon system to use, he wouldnt have it.

Ticonderoga's are designed to intercept enemy missles at ranges of 500 miles. They can also hit ships from that range themselves.

And if you hadnt posted what weapon system to use, he wouldnt have it.


true and for that i'm sorry.

but look at it this way, if he suddenly has one that works in a similar fashion he would look rather bad.

Oh, and. the DDGs I sent in were Arleigh Burkes. DDs were Spruance, while FFgs are Oliver Hazard Perrys

EDIT:Crookfur its aight...how do you say 160 of the PTs would fare (minus the 20 that sunk in the attack so far)

From when the Coulters hit 500 miles and until they hit 350, 15 of them are destroyed. They launch missiles and continue closing in.

"Captain! We're losing people here!"

"Keep going, we must finish them off!"

Don't worry, Dark Terror: the NCA is behind you.

To hell with that....

From when the Coulters hit 500 miles and until they hit 350What the hell does that mean?

The Attican Empire is against this agression but refrains from any combat, but does denounce the actions of the aggressors.

OOC: Ok, let me defend my 25 legions:

25 legionsx288k ea.=7.2 million

5% of 1.5 billion= 75,000,000

Difference: 67.8 million.


These are VERY well trained troops (not conscripts)

If you don't like it, tough. I posted my military stats months ago, and no one complained.

The NCA is not getting involved in this war. Alphans previous commitment of the NCA legion is to be ignored.

Okay, just wanted to make sure that was clear.

Individual NCA members are welcome to send troops, but the NCA as a whole institution is not supporting Dark Terror.

2 destroyers, a cruiser, and 2 frigates are sunk. Su-37s launch. railguns, and missles fire upon the PT boats.
edit:shit, this is my puppet. Arribastan here

From when the Coulters hit 500 miles and until they hit 350What the hell does that mean?


It's like that: when they are at 500 miles, you start shooting at them.
By the time they are at the distance from which they may launch their missiles, 15 are dead.

Argrigento: What?

Let me go look up costs per soldier of a RL army (per day)

2 destroyers, a cruiser, and 2 frigates are sunk. Su-37s launch. CIWS, railguns, and missles fire upon the PT boats.

ooc: I don't think CIWS can fire at enemy ships. They are very rigidly programed for enemy missiles and small planes.

I could be wrong, but this is how it generally is in RL.

Argrigento: What?

This war started due to Dark Terror's Gulags, in which he oppresses many different groups, most notable are Catholics. This form of tyranny is against the principles of the NCA and against the wishes of many NCA member nations.

It is because of this that Fantasan decided to keep the NCA legion out of this contest.

Let me go look up costs per soldier of a RL army (per day)

And post dsamages while you're at it.

All right, the US pays each soldier in Afghanistan $225 a month. You said 7,000,000 somethin men so thats $1,575,000,000 in just pay (no food costs, no ammo costs, no training costs, no housing costs, etc.).

As far as the Ticonderoga goes, it can handle supersonic missles (if you need to check it out, I can get link). the Arliegh Burkes also have the same missle system as the Ticonderoga (Aegis) adn can thus hit the same targets as the Ticonderoga.

Losses:
(no new losses yet)

So who ever types the most crap wins the war?

So who ever types the most crap wins the war?

Its slightly more complicated than that.... :roll:

All right, the US pays each soldier in Afghanistan $225 a month. You said 7,000,000 somethin men so thats $1,575,000,000 in just pay (no food costs, no ammo costs, no training costs, no housing costs, etc.).

As far as the Ticonderoga goes, it can handle supersonic missles (if you need to check it out, I can get link). the Arliegh Burkes also have the same missle system as the Ticonderoga (Aegis) adn can thus hit the same targets as the Ticonderoga.

Losses:
(no new losses yet)

that is 225 (base pay+benefits+dependents+other pay) average a day not month so that is 225*365*7 million=$574,875,000,000 on a good economy with few rights. Do not see how that is happening......nice catch FW

War is declared! The 4 Volgas with the 12 Alpha nd 6 L.A. class subs are launching a full scale capital charge. They are expected to be lost however. Also 200 Titan class small torpedo boats are swarming the eneymy fleet, with 25 SPRUCE class destroyers also charging the DT fleet.

fallowing the declaration of war, 200 anciant MiG-15s, are on a kamikazee rubn. They are being flown being pure fuel cans, witha one way ticket. Mean while, 50 conventonal sir jono the second SLBMs each with 10 MIRVs are launched by 2 Typhoons in home port.

Oh and, more per soldier costs:

$2000 a soldier per hour on C-130, or $450 per soldier on a contracted plane.
$15,000 recruiting costs (or even half that)
$600 per walkie talkie
$341.75 NCB gear
$700 or more or less for rifle
$172.65 Uniform and boots
$1,620 Body armor
$322 helmet
$120 for the load carrying vest
$13,000 training for an average US marine recruit

$31,876.4 in just training etc. so thats about $223,134,800,000 in training unless you spend more on actual training or what you pay to advertise on your army or per gun etc.

OOC: Do you want to fight a war, or are you just going to find a way to get one of the main combatants out?

Losses:
(no new losses yet)



What about them pesky Y-3 missiles my planes launched.

Agrigento: I thought the Gulag problem was solved when the suggestion to buy those people their freedom was made.

Agrigento: I thought the Gulag problem was solved when the suggestion to buy those people their freedom was made.

ooc: I wasn't aware, but that really doesn't matter, it still is a matter of principle...its why Belem started fighting (even though he was consequentially ignored). If a country is allowed to walk on the charter of its organization, is allowed to offend numerous members who considered themselves his ally, who fought alongside him many times, what is to stop him from doing it again? Frankly I don't think this is the kind of person I wish to support and I will be damned if I allow my members of the legion to fight for him.

Allanea will pull it's forces out.

FF - you STILL need to post losses.

I actualy do want to fight a war, but I do wish to bug you on your army. I will acept your army (for non screwing up issues) but after this war I think you need to make those numbers a little (actualy a lot) smaller...as far Y-3s, i've got 56 ships (the other groups that got here arent doing snything yet) ships that are providing anti-missle defense with the same system.

But, I guess I can put down a total of:

4 Ticonderogas sunk
29 Pts sunk
EDIT: we need an observer for this...a non-biased (not pro-FW or pro-DT) to see about these losses

:?: Can u explain how it is more complicated than just typing words

:?: Can u explain how it is more complicated than just typing words

ooc: Read the stickies... :!:

they are also hideously vunerable to CIWS fire.Not against the USA's CIWS system - it can't shoot that low.
5% of 1.5 billion= 75,000,000Which is a ridiculously high number.
If you don't like it, tough. I posted my military stats months ago, and no one complained.Months ago, most people godmoded their military numbers.
So who ever types the most crap wins the war?If only...then I'd win in one post.

OOC:
Your PT boats will be simply shredded by Kahtan-M gun/missile systems (IF they get close enough). Kahtan-M combined close range SAMs with a CIWS. And oh yeah I can have helos or planes destroy them with their cannons. Sorry, do not pass go, do not fire 200 torpedoes into my fleet. CIWS is easily capable of engaging motorboats, well anti sea-skimmer missiles can be put to use here as well.

Agrigento- I asked fantasan, slavery's not against NCA rules, sending catholicas to gulags if they dont get the hell out is probably also legal, though I dont need NCA help, I have enough as it is! I would probably get it if I asked for it, but in case a land war starts Ardor and I have over 150,000 tanks between us.

Well fantasan told me that the NCA would not get involved, and that he would not/has not authorized use of the NCA Legion. So unless things change, that is how it stands.

2 Allanean supercarriers and 3 SSBN's are en route.

In the meanwhile, the Coulters launch 4 Yakhont-3 missiles each at the FW carriers as soon they are in missile range (circa 350 miles).

One third of USSS fleet, knowing that it has little chance to reach the main engagement area in time to help resolve the current battle, comes to a new heading straight at the Allanean reinforcements, hoping to smash them up and then get back in time for the truly large battle.

SecretAll ships that disengage from the convoy to strike at Allanean forces head for a position from which they can ambush the carriers as they pass. Once they arrive they will deploy stealth tarps (huge plastic sheets which shield the vessels from air or space, and make them appear to radar as just another swell) and wait for battle to begin.

The Rainmaker, a Tlaloc class, has now been shadowing the Fluffy Fleet for a while. The captain has prepared a broadcast:

Fluffywuffy:

If your fleet and other military forces around Dark Terror do not immediately stand down, we will regrettably be forced to use deadly force to eradicate your threat.

Now that the official bit is over, a translation:

If you don't get out of here, we'll neutron shell your sorry little butts. Regrettably, we on this airship will be forced to abandon it, but we will have killed a lot of you guys.

--End Transmission--

[secret] The Duke, an airborne aircraft carrier, is escorting the Rainmaker so it is not so vulnerable to carriers.

We warn you, Johnson Arms Corp, that we consider neutron bombs weapons of mass destruction and answerable in kind. Seeing as even Dark Terror has expressed the wish to keep such weapons out of this conflict, we suggest that you take your threats somewhere else.

So lima. That was a mistake. Im ignoring your 200 destroyers, thats bullshiat for your size. However, I am launching 38 Heli III Sharkfish ASW Helicopters. They will be heading towards your last known whereabouts, as you made it pretty obvious. 24 P3 Orions are running coastal operations to destroy your punative subs. If you arm any weapon system, Im launching my Nuclear Arsenal.

ooc: Sorry, but I can't stand the fact that he has no point to be involved, and less a point to declare war. He angers me.

So lima. That was a mistake. Im ignoring your 200 destroyers, thats bullshiat for your size. However, I am launching 38 Heli III Sharkfish ASW Helicopters. They will be heading towards your last known whereabouts, as you made it pretty obvious. 24 P3 Orions are running coastal operations to destroy your punative subs. If you arm any weapon system, Im launching my Nuclear Arsenal.

ooc: Sorry, but I can't stand the fact that he has no point to be involved, and less a point to declare war. He angers me.

ooc: thats one Nuclear Strike I won't really mind :twisted:

ooc: I wouldn't nuke anyone else. This is a RP, no point in being stupid. I just don't think Lima belongs.


ic: All SAM sites are completed, and online. Total number : 34,000
(I built a lot.)

So lima. That was a mistake. Im ignoring your 200 destroyers, thats bullshiat for your size. However, I am launching 38 Heli III Sharkfish ASW Helicopters. They will be heading towards your last known whereabouts, as you made it pretty obvious. 24 P3 Orions are running coastal operations to destroy your punative subs. If you arm any weapon system, Im launching my Nuclear Arsenal.

ooc: Sorry, but I can't stand the fact that he has no point to be involved, and less a point to declare war. He angers me.

ooc: thats one Nuclear Strike I won't really mind :twisted:

Allanea will pull it's forces out.

FF - you STILL need to post losses.

Do you want to STILL attack me?

So lima. That was a mistake. Im ignoring your 200 destroyers, thats bullshiat for your size. However, I am launching 38 Heli III Sharkfish ASW Helicopters. They will be heading towards your last known whereabouts, as you made it pretty obvious. 24 P3 Orions are running coastal operations to destroy your punative subs. If you arm any weapon system, Im launching my Nuclear Arsenal.

ooc: Sorry, but I can't stand the fact that he has no point to be involved, and less a point to declare war. He angers me.

ooc: whya re you ignoring 20 meter ships? They are small torpedo boats!

ic: Admiril Frank Grand is on the fleet of subs charging the fleet.

Aide: we have torpedos coming our way

Frank Grand: How many

Aide: ahh, theres 50 sir

Frank Grand: launch counter measures

countermesure operator: launching counter meausres

Frank Grand: tell the whole fleet to send their reactors to 200%, they willl overheat in 4 minutes, but thats understandable. How far from the fleet?

aide: reactor at 200% we are at 65 knots, we are 7 knots from the fleet.

frank Grand: fire torpedos,

aide: yes sir, torpedos launched.

Frank Grand: how many taopredos are still chasing us?

aide: 33 sir.

Frank Grand fire more counter measures!

Aide, the torpedos are at 300 meters at 67 knots

Frank Grand, then we'll hit the fleet first rearm torpedo tubes, I want to be constantly firing torpedos!

aide: yes sir.

Frank Grand: how goods the reactor

aide: its at 30% overheaten we are 5 knots from the fleet!

mean while, Untouchables are getting online. The parliment is going down to the havens! our ICBMs are getting on line, sm-2s are being put up, together we hae 25 Untouchables, who can each handle 250 MIRV in one round of firing!, sm-2s are being put, on the borders, in mass numbers, together we have 1400 sm-2s

mean while, more sm-2s are being rolleled off the assembly line. More and more ICBMs are bing fuled. The population chants no more war.

witha push of a button. Sir Jono the second selfdestructs all the torpedos that have been launched and sends the subs to 1 knots. They are then turned around. To await destruction. He hopes that Allena will selfdestruct their torpedos.

(OOC to Neo Earth: If you want to claim an army of 7.2 million, then yes, they are conscripts. A well-trained army of that size is... ridiculous. Maybe you didn't get the memo, but the 5% rule was thrown out by most RPers long ago. It's only accurate for smaller nations.)

OOC: Look. I assume the allies of DT are being ignored, since neither the subs nor the main fleet have been doing damage to your PTs. Also, on the subject of neutron weapons, any ship equipped with N/B/C protection can be harmed by radiation. Anyways, the Rainmaker has begun bombarding the ships now (no neutron shells). Oh, and the line about the threats was very Bush.

(OOC to Neo Earth: If you want to claim an army of 7.2 million, then yes, they are conscripts. A well-trained army of that size is... ridiculous. Maybe you didn't get the memo, but the 5% rule was thrown out by most RPers long ago. It's only accurate for smaller nations.)
They can be well trained, assuming not all of them are combat troops..

I'm keeping my ships and subs with DT's main fleet.

OOC: Look. I assume the allies of DT are being ignored, since neither the subs nor the main fleet have been doing damage to your PTs. Also, on the subject of neutron weapons, any ship equipped with N/B/C protection can be harmed by radiation. Anyways, the Rainmaker has begun bombarding the ships now (no neutron shells). Oh, and the line about the threats was very Bush.
OOC:
Np, he thinks no one will notice his PT boats until its oto late. THis is where hes wrong, since my naval AWACS with their look down radars and anti stealth capabilities will quickly have my carriers launch their Su-39KM's at them. The Su-39KM is a heavily upgraded Su-25 Frogfoot, each of my carriers have 1 squadron (12 planes).

ooc: You better back out Lima.

ic: The Artitsan President Orill Blandark has given the order to mobilize the navy.

• 4 Wolf Packs - 2 Rose Class Pocket Battleships, 12 Lutjens Destroyers, 4 K-Series Subs
• 5 Carrier Groups - 1 Yekaterinburg Super Carrier, 1 Soyuz IV Battleships, 2 J-Class Battleships, 6 Korsar class frigates, 8 SluisVan Guided missile Cruisers, 1 “Zossen” Class Hospital Ship, 12 Stingray-class destroyer, 14 Lutjens Destroyers.
• 4 Escort Carrier Groups - 1 Ulyanovsk class carrier, 2 J-Class Battleships, 4 Korsar class Frigates, 2 SluisVan Guided Missle Cruisers, 6 Stringray-class destroyer, 12 Lutjens Destroyers.

ooc: wow, I have alot of destroyers. But then again their pretty small.

http://www.angelfire.com/music5/drunk_man/images/lutjens.jpg

My fleet will stay in basin of the river, near DT's territory.

As DT's allies, I beleive these points are most important.

http://spaulding.thexgn.com/warmap1edit.jpg

Anti-stealth radar can not target stealth ships...

OOC:
PT Boats would get fucked. Its not like ww2, there are guidence systems now, and also the caliber of ships guns are smaller, allowing for higher rates of fire. If they ever got that close :roll:
IC:
The Bisonic fleet continues to remain 600km away from the FLuffywuffy fleet, preparing for the order to attack. AWACS planes, escorted by Su-37MK fighters, patrol the airspace arround the fleet in order to detect and engage any bombers before they can release their missiles. The fleets Hokum series helicopters patrol the waters around the fleet, looking for submarines, and armed with torpedoes to engage them.

OOC:
PT Boats would get fucked. Its not like ww2, there are guidence systems now, and also the caliber of ships guns are smaller, allowing for higher rates of fire. If they ever got that close :roll:
IC:
The Bisonic fleet continues to remain 600km away from the FLuffywuffy fleet, preparing for the order to attack. AWACS planes, escorted by Su-37MK fighters, patrol the airspace arround the fleet in order to detect and engage any bombers before they can release their missiles. The fleets Hokum series helicopters patrol the waters around the fleet, looking for submarines, and armed with torpedoes to engage them.

15 Seedling Carriers get word from the General and ready their F-14 Tomcats. Troops gas them up, and load their missiles. B-52's Bombers in DT's territory also get word and are getting filled up with their cargo of.. bombs. We await the word to start the runs.

Yurka's naval force patiently awaits the upcoming conflict with FluffyWuff, "We're ready to attack at any time DT!"

15 Seedling Carriers get word from the General and ready their F-14 Tomcats. Troops gas them up, and load their missiles. B-52's Bombers in DT's territory also get word and are getting filled up with their cargo of.. bombs. We await the word to start the runs.
Bomb his legions. The map has cities because I have 2 mechanized armies based near the coast in case of an invasion. Sure, the rest of my army will take time to deploy, but those two can brutalize him. One is based at Brimyal, the other is at Kamrov. So basically, 5,000 tanks are about to drive him into the sea.

Can I get a location on his legions?

Can I get a location on his legions?
On the coast in that map...

That part of DT is more or less steppes with some hills, some wooded areas closer to the Ardorian border, the rest is really mainly steppes. So guy with the most tanks (me) wins, basically!

OOC: Nah. The guy with the most anti-tank missiles and rockets wins, because his anti-tank weapons are much smaller and more portable.

Seedling Carriers begin advancing at a slow rate. They each contain 30 F-14 Tomcats, with 15 Carriers in total. So doing the math.. 450 F-14 Tomcats. They will go in raids of 15 Tomcats and 1 B-52 over the next day or so for a total of 30 Raids. This should put a dent in Fluffywuffy's legion.

OOC:
Nianacio- stealth is more or less overrated bullshit. Stealth ships are limited to the arleigh burke, which is NOT stealth, but rather has a low RCS making its chaff more effective.


Also, more specifically, fluffywuffy troops are between Brimyal and the coast (a distance of 200 miles or so).

The 2nd mechanized army is based near Brimyal, should DT be invaded it is the one to drive the enemy back into the sea.

- 3,000 GT-1 tanks
- 2,000 GT-2 tanks
- 500 T-7M Gilgamesh heavy tanks
- 400 Akatsiya-M SP artillery
- 100 Smerch-M MLRS systems
- 500 VO-100 APC's
- 3,000 BTR-94 APC's
- 1,500 BMP-3M2 IFV's
- 25,000 MTLBU APC's (basically MT-LB with ERA and a 30mm gun)
- 68,500 combat troops (guards)
- Associated maintenance personnel (mechanics, etc.)
- some SAM systems.

OOC: Nah. The guy with the most anti-tank missiles and rockets wins, because his anti-tank weapons are much smaller and more portable.
Apart from the VO-100 and BTR-94 lighter APC's, all Bisonic AFV's have either 3rd generation ERA (kaktus), or NERA (Igolka). Thats nonexplosive reactive armor, and it gives more protection per weight than chobham. Have fun penetrating it with your Javelin's :lol:

OOC:
Slight correciton on my naval helos- theyre Helixes, not Hokum's. Confused the designation.

http://spaulding.thexgn.com/b_52.jpeg
Seedlings B-52's return over the mountains of Dark Terror.

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http://spaulding.thexgn.com/f-14.jpg
Seedling F-14 Tomcats Return onto the Carriers, feul up and ready to re deploy.

Apart from the VO-100 and BTR-94 lighter APC's, all Bisonic AFV's have either 3rd generation ERA (kaktus), or NERA (Igolka). Thats nonexplosive reactive armor, and it gives more protection per weight than chobham. Have fun penetrating it with your Javelin's :lol:Who needs Javelins? I have man-portable A4GMs that fly at over Mach 4. 8) I'll also have fun watching your Kaktus armor shred supporting infantry and you learn that NERA is not effective against KE threats (by the way, NERA is Non-Energetic Reactive Armor, and NxRA is Non-Explosive Reactive Armor, which is also not effective against KE threats). A Mach 3 missile will be both a KE threat and a CE threat.
OOC:
Nianacio- stealth is more or less overrated bullshit. Stealth ships are limited to the arleigh burke, which is NOT stealth, but rather has a low RCS making its chaff more effective.OOC: Stealth IS low RCS!
There already are stealth ships IRL built and being planned.

OOC:
Kaktus will do very little do surrounding infantry, even the 2nd generation Kontakt-5 has far less fragmentation that the original ERAs. Wrong! Kontakt-5 can survive KE hits, 2nd generation NxRA (after all DT being 2012 or so tech a second generation should have come out) can survive them as well, and our tanks have a layer of tungsten anyways. ERA improves with each generation, Kaktus can survive tandem warheads.

There are a few other stealth ships like the Visby, but frankly, stealth is bullshit.

Armor surviving KE hits? With ERA, that does not mean that it stops the KE threat, but that it doesn't set it off.
But yes, the Kontakt-5 is said to be able to stop the M829A1. Still, I doubt it can take a KE and a CE threat on the same spot only moments apart.
ERA improves with each generation, Kaktus can survive tandem warheads.Can it take three CE hits in a row?
There are a few other stealth ships like the Visby, but frankly, stealth is bullshit.:lol: Then why does it work?
OOC: Keep giving me names of new Russian armor. I like new tech. 8)

OOC:
Some info on Kontakt-5 2nd gen ERA (kaktus came 14 years later and is a generaiton ahead of it)

"Where the conventional ERAs are only capable of defeating shaped-charge jets, Kontakt-5 can also defeat APFSDS rounds. Because of Kontakt-5, long-rod penetrators can lose over 30% of their penetration potential and the protected vehicle becomes immune to them."

"In addition, thanks to their heavier (15 mm hard steel) front plate, the Kontakt-5 elements are harder to trigger by the precursor charges of tandem warheads, forcing the producers of tandem ATGMs to allocate more mass to precursor charge and, making an MBT more resistant to tandem HEAT warheads, as well."

"It is very important to note that while light ERA containers are completely destroyed in the process of detonation, Kontakt-5 sections are not, as their detonation is contained by the outside armor plates. Therefore even after detonation Kontakt-5 sections continue to provide some applique protection"

http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/EQP/kontakt5_2.jpg
Im sure that when this ERA was spent it really butchered infantry!

Source:
http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/

Armor surviving KE hits? With ERA, that does not mean that it stops the KE threat, but that it doesn't set it off.
But yes, the Kaktus is said to be able to stop the M829A1. Still, I doubt it can take a KE and a CE threat on the same spot only moments apart.
OOC: Keep giving me names of new Russian armor. I like new tech. 8)Kaktus.. eh, how about Kontakt-5 (possibly):
"It is believed that while protected by Kontakt-5 ERA, Russian MBTs cannot be penetrated across the frontal arc by the M256 guns firing M829A1 APFSDS ammo"

Kaktus.. eh, how about Kontakt-5 (possibly):
"It is believed that while protected by Kontakt-5 ERA, Russian MBTs cannot be penetrated across the frontal arc by the M256 guns firing M829A1 APFSDS ammo"Whoops, that's what I get for having nine pages open...Yes, I did mean Kontakt-5.
Anyway, a top attack Mach 4+ CE/KE missile will kill your tank.

OOC:
And Kaktus is a generaiton ahead of the K-5.

Why does stealth work? IT DOESNT. B-2's can be tracked, the yugoslavs shot down an F-117 with a czech emissions tracker, the russian S-400 SAM system has anti stealth radar, and the SA-X-21 is probably an anti stealth SAM.

Kaktus.. eh, how about Kontakt-5 (possibly):
"It is believed that while protected by Kontakt-5 ERA, Russian MBTs cannot be penetrated across the frontal arc by the M256 guns firing M829A1 APFSDS ammo"Whoops, that's what I get for having nine pages open...Yes, I did mean Kontakt-5.
Anyway, a top attack Mach 4+ CE/KE missile will kill your tank.
2 layers of NERA on the top :D .

The AFV's with Kaktus all have 1 layer on the top.

Both have some tungsten on the top as well. Higher profile but better protection.

I'm still waiting on Fluffy to report the damages my intercept attack did to his PT boats.....

I'm still waiting on Fluffy to report the damages my intercept attack did to his PT boats.....If that isnt enough, my carriers are launching upgraded navalized Forgofoots at them.

Why does stealth work? IT DOESNT.Yes, it does.
B-2's can be trackedSeeing something you can't shoot won't do you much good. You'll know it was there anyway once it drops its bombs on you.
the yugoslavs shot down an F-117 with a czech emissions trackerThe F-117 is old, "there is no independent verification of the claim that the Tamara system made by the Czech Republic's private Tesla company can overcome radar evasion systems", and it is "not clear whether the aircraft was shot down or crashed in an accident".
2 layers of NERA on the top :D .

The AFV's with Kaktus all have 1 layer on the top.

Both have some tungsten on the top as well. Higher profile but better protection.So basically, you have heavily armored vehicles that are too heavy and large to go anywhere.

And my hoverpatrolcraft and Pegasus hydrofoil patrol ships are currently engaging them as well. Please try not to hit any of my ships. *this is interesting...has there ever been a huge battle between patrol boats in RL?*

Actually, russian T-72B upgrades have 2 layers of ERA on the top for urban combat and up to 3 layers frontally. NERA/NxRA has a rather low density as well. Propulsion is provided by 1440 hp engines. Moving them aroudn is done by An-225 Cossack's.

No, stealth is overrated bullshit. F-117's get shot down, B-2's get tracked, and the newer SAMs have anti stealth capabilities. Be back later.

Come on fluffy...its hard to RP when only one side of a war is posting....

Actually, russian T-72B upgrades have 2 layers of ERA on the top for urban combat and up to 3 layers frontally. NERA/NxRA has a rather low density as well. Propulsion is provided by 1440 hp engines. Moving them aroudn is done by An-225 Cossack's.

No, stealth is overrated bullshit. F-117's get shot down, B-2's get tracked, and the newer SAMs have anti stealth capabilities. Be back later.

Actually only 1 F-117 has ever officially been downed and the causes of that are debatable. Some say it was pure luck, others say it was extrememly good use of hand-held SAM's.

He RP's one long post then like goes away.

OOC: Actually, russian T-72B upgrades have 2 layers of ERA on the top for urban combat and up to 3 layers frontally.So they're 14cm taller. That's the last thing you want when you're trying to design a tank as short as possible (height is the big visual give away on the battlefield).
Moving them aroudn is done by An-225 Cossack's.So you need a big airfield wherever you want to move your tanks? Nice...I'll just need to put a ring of my A4GMs around the airfield and take out the aircraft as they come in...

"We need to research the old archives on this one sir, the people will need an explanation for the call to duty" suggests the Minister of Domestic Relations.

"I would have to agree with this, we have been in a state of war before and have enjoyed more years of prosperity than any citizen alive can remember." The Minister of Foreign Relations pauses, "Our army is trained over and over again, we are starved for some territorial conquest, tensions with key members have been brewing for a very long time. I suggest we do come up with a legitimate excuse to start the cry for war."

General Thompson adds, "Just say the word and we will be there. I have not enjoyed crushing enemies under my foot since I was a Captian. There is no greater feeling than releasing the dogs of war and enjoying a feast on the flesh of our enemies. Let us feed our starving troops!"

The Pyrrhus stands, "We must address the people and get a feel before we address the call. In the meantime, do some research, see what is in the archives, there has to be a reason for us to go kill DT and his allies. That is all, regroup in the war room at 1800 hours, have all pertinant information for me at that time. I address the Nation at 1900 hours. Dismissed."

OOC:
Wheres fluffywuffy damn it? I want to get to sending him back into the sea!

Yea, also we need the damage report from my bombing runs.

OOC:
So theyre taller. You still cant penetrate them except at ranges which would be on the Bisonic steppes, simply suicidal. The GT-1 was designed more or less to shoot everything in sight to pieces rather than to have a low profile. The GT-2, designed for crew survivability and very low profile, only has 1 layer on the top.

You wont get your A4's anywhere near the airport, either. :roll:

OOC:
So theyre taller.Yep.
You still cant penetrate them except at ranges which would be on the Bisonic steppes, simply suicidal.I think claiming they can stop a KE and then a CE on the same spot isn't good.
You wont get your A4's anywhere near the airport, either. :roll:A4GM. Anti-armor/Anti-aircraft Guided Missile

Excellent, unless they have a 100 mile range, have fun getting them close enough!

Your KE might penetrate the 1st layer of frontal NERA, then it has 2 more to penetrate, and then some tungsten. These arent some fast attack tanks, mk?

*kicks Fluffywuffy to wake him up*

The Pyrrhus, sitting at his desk in his office with the window slightly opened in the background gives a slight breeze that moves the flag of Phyrric that is immediately to his right.

"Citizens of Phyrric, the time has come to act upon a request and invitation from the Nation of Fluffywuffy to intervene in this quest to expell the actions and aggressions of Dark Terror. This is an act that has been long overdue.

The actions against Catholics are totally unacceptable and let it be known that Phyrric is open to the refugees of Catholics to reside and establish residency within our boarders. (Phyrric is 93.98% Catholic)

It has been brought to the attention of the International Community that the time has come to act upon the aggressive nature of Dark Terror and their current allies in this confrontation. We can no longer stand idle and watch as a noble cause by Fluffywuffy go unaided.

We, the government of Phyrric, have issued a high state of alert and call upon all active duty members, not on official assignments, that leave is to expire effective immediately and report back to your commands by 0700 tomorrow for deployment.

Reserve units are hereby activated to full duty and to ready for immediate deployment.

This situation was not easy to act upon and ask that patience and wisdom guide us through this time of action. We will prevail and establish peace once again through the use of our military powers. Let the enemies feel the wrath of our anger for their own maltreatment of all mankind."

Embassies have been closed, diplomats are recalled and all foreign diplomats from Dark Terror, Gforce4, Seed, Yurka, Allanea, Neo Earth, and Unum Veritas within Phyrric have been rounded up and imprisoned until further notice.

Geforce4


we never had any Embassies in your nation :roll:

Nor have we.

ooc: You better back out Lima.

ic: The Artitsan President Orill Blandark has given the order to mobilize the navy.

• 4 Wolf Packs - 2 Rose Class Pocket Battleships, 12 Lutjens Destroyers, 4 K-Series Subs
• 5 Carrier Groups - 1 Yekaterinburg Super Carrier, 1 Soyuz IV Battleships, 2 J-Class Battleships, 6 Korsar class frigates, 8 SluisVan Guided missile Cruisers, 1 “Zossen” Class Hospital Ship, 12 Stingray-class destroyer, 14 Lutjens Destroyers.
• 4 Escort Carrier Groups - 1 Ulyanovsk class carrier, 2 J-Class Battleships, 4 Korsar class Frigates, 2 SluisVan Guided Missle Cruisers, 6 Stringray-class destroyer, 12 Lutjens Destroyers.

ooc: wow, I have alot of destroyers. But then again their pretty small.

http://www.angelfire.com/music5/drunk_man/images/lutjens.jpg

the lima been fleet is withdrawing not wanting a war. That stupid admril is awaiting his execution

No need to execute anyone, just to have your leadership stop smoking crack.

Ill make a post about having the mechanized army based at Brimyal smash into his legions in a little while.

BTW, Nianacio- how are your mach 4 missiles guided?

Per DT's request, we will send:
2 Super carrier battle groups, each consisting of:
30 cruisers
30 frigates
45 destroyers
30 tankers
2 Battleships
2 carriers, each with:
40 su37K carrier launch fighters
5 sea stallion helos
10 F/A 18E hornets
10 Prowlers
10 Intruders
10 Hawkeyes
1 super carrier with:
40 su37K carrier launch fighters
40 F/A 18 hornets
10 prowlers
5 Intruders
10 Hawkeyes
5 Sea stallions
9 modified wasp, with
20 Sea Stallions
2,000 marines.
30 LSDs. (not involved with wasp) each with:
5 Abrams
10 modified hummers

Also there are:
250 F-22 raptors
125 B-2 Spirits

In addition, some army will be sent:
1,000,000 infantry with M16’s/MG-3 machine guns
4,000 Abrams tanks
350 CF-1 MBT’s with ATGM’s
1000 GT-2’s
2000 modified hummers
2000 MLRS
100 EA-24C Transport helicopters
2000 EA-32 Light attack helicopters

OOC:
Hes a ressurected june naiton, BTW.
IC:
Dark Terror has thanked its TGB ally Arribastan for its support, and we are planning a major offensive against the invaders.

If we will hit their coast, i'll send my 2nd MEP (Marine Expeditionary Force)

If we will hit their coast, i'll send my 2nd MEP (Marine Expeditionary Force)This is all off of MY coast, which is why Im so keen to move it to their coast!

Why don't we? Finish off their legions then bring the battle to their soil!

The supercarrier launches 10 SU-37's armed with missles and a few bombs to do a CAP. The escort Carriers launch 8 each.

OOC:
I assume that as of right now the Fluffywuffy legions and Bisonic troops have more or less a ww1 type front line?

Did you veiw the map I posted before? I beleive those points are most important. After that we can drive them back to their soil and finish them there.

Did you veiw the map I posted before? I beleive those points are most important. After that we can drive them back to their soil and finish them there.
OOC:
Heh, number 2 (Brimyal) is in Bisonic hands, thats from where I want to drive them into the sea, which is 200 miles away from it.

Once fluffy confirms that its more or less a ww1 like front, only wihout the trenches and with lots and lots of tnaks, Ill start the attack.

Too bad we couldn't use space tech.. harrr I'd pwn them.

if we could use space, DGNT, Dying Camels, and others would pwn them with you.

The 1st, 2nd, 9th, 12th, 22nd, 46th, 47th, and 49th Armoured Divisons (10,000 tanks in total) are moving upto the Artitsa-Dark Terror border by the river. Once ordered they will cross over into DT land and blitz the FluffyWuffy lines. There is a massive amount of Anti-Air cover for this force, ranging from hand held SAMs to Artitsa's new GCIWS, to full fledged SAM sites.

One of Artitsa's wolfpacks, Schorn is circiling around to cut off any reinforcements/resupplyments to Fluffy Wuffys fleet. They make sure to stay out of The fleets missle ranges. All SAM systems onboard are constantly active, and able to engage more than 300 Aircraft.

Me and Xanthal would diminsh them.

The Pyrrhus, sitting at his desk in his office with the window slightly opened in the background gives a slight breeze that moves the flag of Phyrric that is immediately to his right.

"Citizens of Phyrric, the time has come to act upon a request and invitation from the Nation of Fluffywuffy to intervene in this quest to expell the actions and aggressions of Dark Terror. This is an act that has been long overdue.

The actions against Catholics are totally unacceptable and let it be known that Phyrric is open to the refugees of Catholics to reside and establish residency within our boarders. (Phyrric is 93.98% Catholic)

It has been brought to the attention of the International Community that the time has come to act upon the aggressive nature of Dark Terror and their current allies in this confrontation. We can no longer stand idle and watch as a noble cause by Fluffywuffy go unaided.

We, the government of Phyrric, have issued a high state of alert and call upon all active duty members, not on official assignments, that leave is to expire effective immediately and report back to your commands by 0700 tomorrow for deployment.

Reserve units are hereby activated to full duty and to ready for immediate deployment.

This situation was not easy to act upon and ask that patience and wisdom guide us through this time of action. We will prevail and establish peace once again through the use of our military powers. Let the enemies feel the wrath of our anger for their own maltreatment of all mankind."

Embassies have been closed, diplomats are recalled and all foreign diplomats from Dark Terror, Gforce4, Seed, Yurka, Allanea, Neo Earth, and Unum Veritas within Phyrric have been rounded up and imprisoned until further notice.

OOC: I don't have any diplomats there :shock:

Arribastan will send a C-5 Galaxy (marked with a huge cow) to DT, with 2,000 mobile SAM trucks. these are armed with the Arribastani SAM, the GAAM-19.

BTW, Nianacio- how are your mach 4 missiles guided?OOC: There are different versions. One is SACLOS with a laser beam.

The Pyrrhus, sitting at his desk in his office with the window slightly opened in the background gives a slight breeze that moves the flag of Phyrric that is immediately to his right.

"Citizens of Phyrric, the time has come to act upon a request and invitation from the Nation of Fluffywuffy to intervene in this quest to expell the actions and aggressions of Dark Terror. This is an act that has been long overdue.

The actions against Catholics are totally unacceptable and let it be known that Phyrric is open to the refugees of Catholics to reside and establish residency within our boarders. (Phyrric is 93.98% Catholic)

It has been brought to the attention of the International Community that the time has come to act upon the aggressive nature of Dark Terror and their current allies in this confrontation. We can no longer stand idle and watch as a noble cause by Fluffywuffy go unaided.

We, the government of Phyrric, have issued a high state of alert and call upon all active duty members, not on official assignments, that leave is to expire effective immediately and report back to your commands by 0700 tomorrow for deployment.

Reserve units are hereby activated to full duty and to ready for immediate deployment.

This situation was not easy to act upon and ask that patience and wisdom guide us through this time of action. We will prevail and establish peace once again through the use of our military powers. Let the enemies feel the wrath of our anger for their own maltreatment of all mankind."

Embassies have been closed, diplomats are recalled and all foreign diplomats from Dark Terror, Gforce4, Seed, Yurka, Allanea, Neo Earth, and Unum Veritas within Phyrric have been rounded up and imprisoned until further notice.

The imprisoning of diplomats is highly illegal, because even during times of war two nations must have open lines of communication. Second, I don't believe I ever RPed having diplomats in your country, therefore you probably just arrested your own citizens. Brilliant.... :roll:

In anticipation of the fight, we begin heavy bombardment of the FluffyLine (TM) with the Tlalocs.

OOC: Fluffy, post losses soon for everything, please.

Geforce4


we never had any Embassies in your nation :roll:

This strengthens my cause, even the US has an embassy even in the smallest, most insignificant Nation in RL. Demonstrates that those nations claiming no embassies were ever present means that war is the order of the day.

Lets rock

Phyrric fleets have mobilized and have set course for war.

A massive fleet is on it's way to launch an attack on Fluffywuffy.
16 Carriers carrying bombers and fighters.
50 Frigates
45 Destroyers
40 Cruisers
60 Subs
Plus cargo and merchant ships


Estimated time to attack range of Fluffywuffy coast is 7 days NS time.

1) Phyrrc didn't mention me
2) we have a sealed-border policy. only government-sanctioned men can get in or get out, and only to allied countries
therefore, nobody is gonna be captured for me. if any people from the other defenders are hurt, we will declare war on you.

Phyrric, you can't have an embassy without the express consent of the other nation. We never RPed having an embassy within your country, and to assume to have one without your consent would be an assault on your sovereignty. You have no arguement here, not having an embassy is not a prelude to war. Take your delusion "arguements" elsewhere.

A fifth Task Force is being mobilized and has received steaming orders for Fluffywuffy. As of now, it is not public knowledge when these ships will set out, or arrive within striking distance of Fluffy's shores, however it is believed that this is part of a larger, coordinated effort with allied forces.

And Even if we did have an embassy their, and you layed a hand on them, your nation wouldn't live to see the next sunrise.

OOC: I'm not sure what time frame we're using here. When is it okay for my fleet to arrive?

6 days till fleet arrives at Fluffy's coast.

Phyrric, you can't have an embassy without the express consent of the other nation. We never RPed having an embassy within your country, and to assume to have one without your consent would be an assault on your sovereignty. You have no arguement here, not having an embassy is not a prelude to war. Take your delusion "arguements" elsewhere.

The arguement is taken to your boarders as the Phyrric fleet has arrived at your nation. Considering the bulk, if not all your forces are at DT, this should be a quick capture. I will make a new thread on this.

Phyrric, my forces aren't fully engaged, and I see an opening to YOUR country. How humiliating would it be for a July nation to simply annex a March nation. If you don't back down, I will destroy that fleet of yours one way or another.

(tactical nukes, suicidal fishermen and frogmen here we come!)