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Straughn
01-02-2008, 07:24
for every somewhat normal person like me
Wha-HAHAHAHAHAHAHOHOHOHOHOHAHAHA*snort*HAHAHAHOHOHOHAHAHEEHEE*gasp*
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/irre.gif
TheGreenPartySyndicate
01-02-2008, 07:35
It all hits the fan on February 10.
Vetalia
01-02-2008, 08:07
Wha-HAHAHAHAHAHAHOHOHOHOHOHAHAHA*snort*HAHAHAHOHOHOHAHAHEEHEE*gasp*
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/irre.gif

:fluffle:
Cannot think of a name
01-02-2008, 08:07
It all hits the fan on February 10.

For the YouTube kid or Scientology? Or a flashlight on the wall?
Ifreann
01-02-2008, 12:30
Anonymous has crashed the scientology server several times, as well as stopped 2 school shootings and several child pornographers. By working semi- independantly, they are actually doing things about problems instead of just whining about them. I would shake their hands, but most of them are too sticky.

And they really gave neo-nazi Hal Turner a hard time, that'll garner decent amount of sympathy.


And yes, I wouldn't touch Anon either, if I had any choice in the matter. Not without very thick gloves.
Majority 12
01-02-2008, 13:07
Maybe, hopefully, the moving of Scientology's website to a more secure server will foster a greater number and more serious RL raids, considering that now e-raids are more difficult.

The DDOS shit was all about garnering attention for the meatspace activity in February.
Hydesland
01-02-2008, 17:48
http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10609174

Even the economist are reporting their activities now!
Hydesland
01-02-2008, 17:50
The DDOS shit was all about garnering attention for the meatspace activity in February.

I think DDOSing sites is actually more troublesome then you think. If anonymous successfully shut down Scientology servers on some sort of routine basis, they are in a way holding them at ransom. Whether the scientologists will give in is another question...

Also, whats actually gonna happen on feb 10th? I mean, what are they going to do, just stand and protest? Thats kind of lame.
Eofaerwic
01-02-2008, 17:59
I think DDOSing sites is actually more troublesome then you think. If anonymous successfully shut down Scientology servers on some sort of routine basis, they are in a way holding them at ransom. Whether the scientologists will give in is another question...

Also, whats actually gonna happen on feb 10th? I mean, what are they going to do, just stand and protest? Thats kind of lame.

Yes, because non-violent protest is lame and never achieves anything... let's bring on the riots. </sarcasm>

Actually, if it works, a world-wide protest spanning several continents and about 20-odd cities will be bloody impressive, especially if they get enough numbers. And it will get media attention, especially after the DOSing. It will raise awareness and indicate that this isn't just a random group of 'super-hackers' but actually a large number of concerned people with good reasons (I believe banners are advised linking Lisa Mcpherson and other victims of scientology).

If it works, it could of course end up being a non-event. In any case, non-violent, legal protests to raise awareness is the best way forward and I think significantly better tactic if they want success and not just lulz
Hydesland
01-02-2008, 18:11
Yes, because non-violent protest is lame and never achieves anything... let's bring on the riots. </sarcasm>

Actually, if it works, a world-wide protest spanning several continents and about 20-odd cities will be bloody impressive, especially if they get enough numbers. And it will get media attention, especially after the DOSing. It will raise awareness and indicate that this isn't just a random group of 'super-hackers' but actually a large number of concerned people with good reasons (I believe banners are advised linking Lisa Mcpherson and other victims of scientology).

If it works, it could of course end up being a non-event. In any case, non-violent, legal protests to raise awareness is the best way forward and I think significantly better tactic if they want success and not just lulz

Protests wont really do shit though. There really isn't enough people in anonymous to make any difference really as far as I'm aware, it may be interesting to see them all simultaneously protest in public, but that's about it.
Belkaros
01-02-2008, 18:13
Protests wont really do shit though. There really isn't enough people in anonymous to make any difference really as far as I'm aware, it may be interesting to see them all simultaneously protest in public, but that's about it.

There are at least 15,000 Anonymous. At most 70,000.
Cannot think of a name
01-02-2008, 18:20
Protests wont really do shit though. There really isn't enough people in anonymous to make any difference really as far as I'm aware, it may be interesting to see them all simultaneously protest in public, but that's about it.

I don't know. A spot light can have quite an effect. Scientology avoids that negative spotlight because people shine it individually and thus are susceptible to the 'fair game' treatment, but you can do that to an amorphous mob. The best they can hope for there is that everyone writes them off as yay-hoos and doesn't pay attention. It doesn't help that they are yay-hoos, but still...
Hydesland
01-02-2008, 18:24
There are at least 15,000 Anonymous. At most 70,000.

Yeah but not all of them actually participate in raids, I would say about half participate in Internet raids, and about a quarter in real life raids. So I would say that at the very most 15,000 will participate, not enough, especially when you consider that they will be spread out amongst many different cities across the globe.
ColaDrinkers
01-02-2008, 18:25
Protests wont really do shit though. There really isn't enough people in anonymous to make any difference really as far as I'm aware, it may be interesting to see them all simultaneously protest in public, but that's about it.

Yes there is. Very few of Anonymous gives a shit about Scientology though. I care because I'm a moralfag, and I'd participate just because of that had I only lived somewhere where Scientology actually existed, but it was never something that should have been done under the Anonymous banner. There never was any lulz in this.

Edit: I very much doubt that anywhere near 15k people will participate in the real life events.
Gauthier
01-02-2008, 19:17
Februrary 10 will be the breaking point.

Either Anonymous will prove to be impotent outside of the Internet...

Or $cientology will get a kick in the crotch from a new power.
Sel Appa
01-02-2008, 20:39
http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10609174

Even the economist are reporting their activities now!

And not in a negative way...

There are at least 15,000 Anonymous. At most 70,000.

Def near a million fool.
CthulhuFhtagn
01-02-2008, 20:51
Def near a million fool.

Doubtful. The population of the Internet's only a few million.
Sel Appa
01-02-2008, 21:21
Doubtful. The population of the Internet's only a few million.

Wrong. It's around 1.2 billion or so. The US alone is around 230 million.
Neo Bretonnia
01-02-2008, 21:39
I dunno if it's been said already... but the video has been pulled.

Buut apparently re-posted. Just gotta search for it.
Deus Malum
01-02-2008, 21:41
Wrong. It's around 1.2 billion or so. The US alone is around 230 million.

And Asia has 500 million.

http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm
Vetalia
02-02-2008, 09:02
Doubtful. The population of the Internet's only a few million.

In 1994.
Posi
02-02-2008, 09:03
Doubtful. The population of the Internet's only a few million.You are shitting me right?
CthulhuFhtagn
02-02-2008, 18:50
You are shitting me right?

Nope. If you go by people who use it regularly it's quite small.
ColaDrinkers
02-02-2008, 19:29
Nope. If you go by people who use it regularly it's quite small.

4chan, the largest western imageboard, has about 230,000 unique visitors daily, but 4chan is dwarfed by the Japanese 2ch. Just how popular 2ch is I don't know, but it definitely has millions of unique visitors and, according to Wikipedia, 2.7 million new posts are made there every day.

But of course, the Japanese don't care the least what we gaijin forum thieves are up to, and even if they were they wouldn't travel abroad to participate in some anti-Scientology demonstrations.
Sel Appa
02-02-2008, 19:54
Nope. If you go by people who use it regularly it's quite small.

At least 500 million people use it regularly, if not much moar.
Tmutarakhan
02-02-2008, 22:15
But I bet most of them are like my mom. Sign in, check your e-mail, sign out. Maybe search one in a great while.
Gauthier
02-02-2008, 22:28
Like I said, February 10 will determine whether Anonymous is to be deemed either an irrelevant threat that only troubles you on the Internet, or if they're a dead serious force to be reckoned with.
Kamsaki-Myu
02-02-2008, 22:41
Like I said, February 10 will determine whether Anonymous is to be deemed either an irrelevant threat that only troubles you on the Internet, or if they're a dead serious force to be reckoned with.
Hmm. I get the feeling they made a mistake scheduling it so far into the future. If they'd planned it for this weekend, they might have been more successful than for next weekend.
Sel Appa
02-02-2008, 23:11
Hmm. I get the feeling they made a mistake scheduling it so far into the future. If they'd planned it for this weekend, they might have been more successful than for next weekend.

Super Bowl is on the 3rd. Try scheduling a protest in the US during that.
Ifreann
02-02-2008, 23:22
4chan, the largest western imageboard, has about 230,000 unique visitors daily, but 4chan is dwarfed by the Japanese 2ch. Just how popular 2ch is I don't know, but it definitely has millions of unique visitors and, according to Wikipedia, 2.7 million new posts are made there every day.

But of course, the Japanese don't care the least what we gaijin forum thieves are up to, and even if they were they wouldn't travel abroad to participate in some anti-Scientology demonstrations.

You know there are Scientology churches in Japan, right? They can protest there, if they want to.
Cannot think of a name
03-02-2008, 10:37
Like I said, February 10 will determine whether Anonymous is to be deemed either an irrelevant threat that only troubles you on the Internet, or if they're a dead serious force to be reckoned with.

I'm going to guess it's the former. Between Ron Paul's no-show support and this the internet will end up looking in need of Viagra...


...which is odd, because the internet keeps offering so much of it...

EDIT:
I stumbledupon this right after I posted this:
http://calloftheday.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/addictivegame.jpg
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
03-02-2008, 10:43
I hear that "Anonymous's" plans involve the 8600 microprocessor in some way. It's pretty serious, from the sound of it.
Straughn
03-02-2008, 10:46
Super Bowl is on the 3rd. Try scheduling a protest in the US during that.
:eek:
A considerable amount of commotion was stirred up during the past year over the prospect of a Multi-Lateral Force, known to the headline writers as MLF. Much of this discussion took place during the baseball season so the chronicle may not have covered it but it did get a certain amount of publicity, and the basic idea was that a bunch of us nations, the good guys, would get together on a joint nuclear deterrent force including our current friends, like France, and our traditional friends, like Germany. Here's a song about that called the MLF lullaby.

Sleep, baby, sleep, in peace may you slumber,
No danger lurks, your sleep to encumber,
We've got the missiles, peace to determine,
And one of the fingers on the button will be German.

Why shouldn't they have nuclear warheads?
England says no, but they are all soreheads.
I say a bygone should be a bygone,
Let's make peace the way we did in Stanleyville and Saigon.

Once all the Germans were warlike and mean,
But that couldn't happen again.
We taught them a lesson in nineteen eighteen,
And they've hardly bothered us since then.

So sleep well, my darling, the sandman can linger,
We know our buddies won't give us the finger.
Heil--hail--the Wehrmacht, I mean the Bundeswehr,
Hail to our loyal ally!
MLF
Will scare Brezhnev,
I hope he is half as scared as I.
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/MLF-Lullaby-lyrics-Tom-Lehrer/17FD169D92E2323748256A7D00259EBC
Cannot think of a name
03-02-2008, 11:03
I hear that "Anonymous's" plans involve the 8600 microprocessor in some way. It's pretty serious, from the sound of it.

I don't get it.




Actually, that's kind of comforting...
Sel Appa
04-02-2008, 06:36
:eek:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/MLF-Lullaby-lyrics-Tom-Lehrer/17FD169D92E2323748256A7D00259EBC

:confused::confused::confused:
Turquoise Days
04-02-2008, 06:46
Hey, it made the front page of the Guardian website.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/feb/04/news

(the Guardian is a major broadsheet paper in the UK)
Straughn
04-02-2008, 10:08
:confused::confused::confused:

I bolded/underlined it. The rest was frosting.
Hoyteca
04-02-2008, 11:09
I support Anonymous's crusade against Scientology. Normally, I'd support peaceful religions. However, Scientology is a cruel and heartless business that only uses the title of "religion" for tax purposes.

Down with Scientology.
Sel Appa
04-02-2008, 21:34
Hey, it made the front page of the Guardian website.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/feb/04/news

(the Guardian is a major broadsheet paper in the UK)

Wow, your tabloid papers have the same punny headlines as ours.

I bolded/underlined it. The rest was frosting.

Still makes no sense at all.
Hydesland
04-02-2008, 21:37
Wow, your tabloid papers have the same punny headlines as ours.


The Guardian is not the least bit tabloid in any way, in fact TD even said it was a broadsheet in his post. Secondly, to TD, its not the front page.
Reploid Productions
05-02-2008, 03:02
Well, according to the enturbulation.org forums at last check, just the Los Angeles protest next weekend has between 150-200 "Anonymii" confirmed. Now, it's a safe bet that a lot of those are bringing at least 1 other person, and in some cases as many as ten.

And a lot of them aren't from the usual "Anonymous" crowd of "hackers on steroids"
Sel Appa
05-02-2008, 03:46
The Guardian is not the least bit tabloid in any way, in fact TD even said it was a broadsheet in his post. Secondly, to TD, its not the front page.

Oh, my mistake. I confused tabloid and broadsheet. I hate broadsheet form. It's so hard to read. Well, it's a pain in the rear.
Turquoise Days
05-02-2008, 04:39
The Guardian is not the least bit tabloid in any way, in fact TD even said it was a broadsheet in his post. Secondly, to TD, its not the front page.
It was actually on the front page of the website, I just linked straight to the article. But no matter.
Oh, my mistake. I confused tabloid and broadsheet. I hate broadsheet form. It's so hard to read. Well, it's a pain in the rear.
Well technically, the Guardian these days is nearly tabloid sized as a result of a redesign. Its still a broadsheet paper though. ¬.¬

But I digress.
Straughn
05-02-2008, 04:50
Still makes no sense at all.What, it's not like i defiled/maimed your meme, non?
Cannot think of a name
05-02-2008, 04:59
What, it's not like i defiled/maimed your meme, non?

Now I'm even more confused.
Straughn
05-02-2008, 05:07
Now I'm even more confused.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13420916&postcount=21
Help? :)
Xomic
05-02-2008, 05:08
don't know if this has been posted yet:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology:_%27%22Anonymous%27_will_be_stopped%22
Cannot think of a name
05-02-2008, 05:15
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13420916&postcount=21
Help? :)

Not much.
Straughn
05-02-2008, 05:21
Not much.

That reminds me ... i was in the bookstore just a lil' bit ago, and noted one of Scott Adams' new Dilbert books,
http://www.amazon.ca/Its-Not-Funny-Have-Explain/dp/0740746588
and there's this red-inked commentary at the bottom of every single strip he stuffed in there.
I included the song for context to the first paragraph, whereas what was bolded was the actually the point.
Cannot think of a name
05-02-2008, 05:38
don't know if this has been posted yet:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology:_%27%22Anonymous%27_will_be_stopped%22
Okay, I read a few of those articles, including the one about 711chan.org saying that since the Anonymous members didn't stay Anonymous that they were backing out of the raids. Then there was something about The Regime which I couldn't tell if it was supposed to be related or if it was just some other bullshit fight that Anonymous had with some other group of internet yay-hoos or whatever.

So the 711chan.org boards went down for a while it seems but are back but I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
That reminds me ... i was in the bookstore just a lil' bit ago, and noted one of Scott Adams' new Dilbert books,
http://www.amazon.ca/Its-Not-Funny-Have-Explain/dp/0740746588
and there's this red-inked commentary at the bottom of every single strip he stuffed in there.
I included the song for context to the first paragraph, whereas what was bolded was the actually the point.

I caught that, I just don't know what the bolded part has to do with anything. And now it's long enough ago that I don't know that I care anymore...
Automagfreek
05-02-2008, 08:20
As posted in the LA Times, supposedly from a Anon representative: "But members of Anonymous were angered by the requests and decided to take on the church, said the group's representative.

The group is a loose confederation of about 9,000 people who post anonymous messages in chat rooms on websites he would not identify. While they are experienced Internet users, few are computer hackers, he said."

Haha, way to sneak the meme in. NINE THOOOOUUUSSAAAANNNDDD.....
Cannot think of a name
05-02-2008, 08:28
As posted in the LA Times, supposedly from a Anon representative: "But members of Anonymous were angered by the requests and decided to take on the church, said the group's representative.

The group is a loose confederation of about 9,000 people who post anonymous messages in chat rooms on websites he would not identify. While they are experienced Internet users, few are computer hackers, he said."

Haha, way to sneak the meme in. NINE THOOOOUUUSSAAAANNNDDD.....

What's that in reference to?
Indri
05-02-2008, 09:02
What's that in reference to?
DBZ
Cannot think of a name
05-02-2008, 09:10
DBZ

Dragonball Z?




I think that what this is taught me is that I shouldn't ask anymore. Even if I get answers they'll just be more confusing and ultimately a little disappointing.
Vetalia
05-02-2008, 09:27
I think that what this is taught me is that I shouldn't ask anymore. Even if I get answers they'll just be more confusing and ultimately a little disappointing.

Basically. This stuff is basically a completely new dialect in and of itself.
Sel Appa
06-02-2008, 04:48
What, it's not like i defiled/maimed your meme, non?

Now I'm even more confused.
Yeah, it still makes no sense. I think you're in the wrong thread, buddy.


Dragonball Z?




I think that what this is taught me is that I shouldn't ask anymore. Even if I get answers they'll just be more confusing and ultimately a little disappointing.
I'm too lazy to get the video but one guy said to the other what his power level or something is and the guy replied:
"it's o-VER NINE THOUSANDDDDD!!!!!"

In a poll conducted by Wikinews on 816 internet news readers, 80% (660) said that The Internet will win the war against Scientology. 7% (63) said that the Church would win. 8% (66) said neither side will win and 3% (27) didn't care.
Joe Table
06-02-2008, 04:52
This whole thing makes me question.... how does i shot web?
Melphi
06-02-2008, 05:00
Yeah, it still makes no sense. I think you're in the wrong thread, buddy.



I'm too lazy to get the video but one guy said to the other what his power level or something is and the guy replied:
"it's o-VER NINE THOUSANDDDDD!!!!!"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI
Vetalia
06-02-2008, 05:15
This whole thing makes me question.... how does i shot web?

How do I got rid of Thetans?
Jerusalem Light
06-02-2008, 05:24
Anonymous takes itself far too seriously.
Protip, /b/: the legion thing is supposed to be a joke.
Hoyteca
06-02-2008, 05:28
How do I got rid of Thetans?

Don't worry about them. Just walk it off and they'll go away.
Callisdrun
06-02-2008, 05:58
Anonymous takes itself far too seriously.
Protip, /b/: the legion thing is supposed to be a joke.

It is. And this is a joke. A massive, hopefully very destructive joke.
Indri
06-02-2008, 07:56
How do I got rid of Thetans?
HAIL XENU!
Hoyteca
06-02-2008, 09:33
HAIL XENU!

Damn him. He found a way to make Tom Cruise even more crazy. That's a horrible accomplishment anyone would be ashamed of having. Making the super-crazy hyper crazy.
Indri
06-02-2008, 21:24
GLaDOS Guide to February 10th (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkMIhR79ujw)

Be ready.
Levee en masse
06-02-2008, 23:11
GLaDOS Guide to February 10th (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkMIhR79ujw)

Be ready.

From "About this video"

Rule #0: Rules 1 and 2 of the internet still apply. Your memes are not, at this juncture, something that the real world can appreciate. Although meme speak between fellow Anonymous is acceptable, focus on the target and keep it to a minimum.

[...]

Rule #21: Prepare legible, uncomplicated and accurate flyers to hand out to those who wish to know more regarding the motivations behind your actions.

There was me thinking they'd go for "Xenufags."
Levee en masse
06-02-2008, 23:21
I wouldn't rule it out...


Though I'm still convinced this is a little 'sound and fury...' ifyaknowwhatImean...

I get you.

I did see they are planning a demonstration near me. I'm wondering if I should go down to watch. See how many turnout.

Then again, it is a Sunday and the only day I have off,
Cannot think of a name
06-02-2008, 23:23
From "About this video"

Rule #0: Rules 1 and 2 of the internet still apply. Your memes are not, at this juncture, something that the real world can appreciate. Although meme speak between fellow Anonymous is acceptable, focus on the target and keep it to a minimum.

[...]

Rule #21: Prepare legible, uncomplicated and accurate flyers to hand out to those who wish to know more regarding the motivations behind your actions.

There was me thinking they'd go for "Xenufags."

I wouldn't rule it out...


Though I'm still convinced this is a little 'sound and fury...' ifyaknowwhatImean...
Reploid Productions
07-02-2008, 00:12
Over 200 RSVPs for the LA protest near me. And somebody else at my school must be participating- I've spotted flyers tacked up around campus for it!
Cannot think of a name
07-02-2008, 00:23
I get you.

I did see they are planning a demonstration near me. I'm wondering if I should go down to watch. See how many turnout.

Then again, it is a Sunday and the only day I have off,

I have no idea if they're planning one at the San Francisco one. I doubt it, it's so small and on a busy crowded road, it just doesn't lend itself to it. Which works for me because it's the Daytona 500 that day which is about the only NASCAR race I'll watch since I'm race starved after the raceless winter.

I have to say, though, watching the battle of yay-hoos would be more interesting in all likelyhood.

EDIT: OOoops, I'm totally wrong. It apparently the 500 is the 17th. Silly me...
Callisdrun
07-02-2008, 05:24
I have no idea if they're planning one at the San Francisco one. I doubt it, it's so small and on a busy crowded road, it just doesn't lend itself to it. Which works for me because it's the Daytona 500 that day which is about the only NASCAR race I'll watch since I'm race starved after the raceless winter.

I have to say, though, watching the battle of yay-hoos would be more interesting in all likelyhood.

EDIT: OOoops, I'm totally wrong. It apparently the 500 is the 17th. Silly me...

They are planning one. My friend is going. I'm not because I had prior commitments.
Cannot think of a name
07-02-2008, 05:39
They are planning one. My friend is going. I'm not because I had prior commitments.

The one on Howard st.? How? Or maybe there's one I don't know about...

EDIT: That'd be a 'yes'. (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/eve/561287515.html) Across from the TransAmerica building? That's prime real estate.

Fuck, I wish I had a camera. Well, I have 8mm cameras, I can take 8 minutes of silent footage at a time...for like $50...
Wilmur
07-02-2008, 05:46
I am afraid of Scientologists because they worship Xemu.
Hoyteca
07-02-2008, 05:58
I am afraid of Scientologists because they worship Xemu.

Yeah, worshipping Xenu is creepy. What do they see in Xemoo? Is it because it's relatively Xenew? I'm really scared of them, are Xe-you? Lol.

They scare me too.
Ifreann
08-02-2008, 14:21
Bump for relevant updates being imminent.

This whole thing makes me question.... how does i shot web?

How do I got rid of Thetans?
Press L or R twice.
Anonymous takes itself far too seriously.
Protip, /b/: the legion thing is supposed to be a joke.

Bah, internets are serious business!
Moonshine
08-02-2008, 14:34
I get you.

I did see they are planning a demonstration near me. I'm wondering if I should go down to watch. See how many turnout.

Then again, it is a Sunday and the only day I have off,

Haha, I'm going to try and be there. I'll probably be the one in a paper V mask. Well, that's if I don't make a few and start handing them out like candy.
Levee en masse
08-02-2008, 14:36
Haha, I'm going to try and be there. I'll probably be the one in a paper V mask. Well, that's if I don't make a few and start handing them out like candy.

In Manchester?

But they might melt...


... in the rain



:(
Sel Appa
08-02-2008, 21:27
Haha, I'm going to try and be there. I'll probably be the one in a paper V mask. Well, that's if I don't make a few and start handing them out like candy.

Where the hell do people get those?
Majority 12
08-02-2008, 21:32
Bump for relevant updates being imminent.




Press L or R twice.


Bah, internets are serious business!


Press Z or R twice!
Ifreann
08-02-2008, 21:40
Press Z or R twice!

Ah crap. It's been waaaaaaaaaaaaay too long.
Tmutarakhan
09-02-2008, 19:50
Just keeping this one from dropping out of the "last day's threads". It would be a shame for it to disappear on the 9th when the 10th is when all this stuff is supposed to really come down. Any bets on whether there will be major incidents, or just a fizzle? I don't know enough about the "Anonymous" to predict how likely they actually are to turn out for a "meatspace" event. Fairly large numbers have *said* they will turn out, but...
Mad hatters in jeans
09-02-2008, 19:53
I had a wierd dream, i was in a library and asked the librarian for a book on scientology or any book on science. Then i went into some futuristic room. then i forget what happened. oh and it was quite sunny too.

*shrugs*
What were you expecting? Don't ask me why i have wierd dreams.
Steelwall
09-02-2008, 20:53
I'd go to the demonstration in my country but, unfortunately, the closest $cientologist "church" is a three-hour train ride away and I seriously doubt anybody will show up anyway. I'll be paying attention to the news outlets though.
Sel Appa
09-02-2008, 21:33
I'd go to the demonstration in my country but, unfortunately, the closest $cientologist "church" is a three-hour train ride away and I seriously doubt anybody will show up anyway. I'll be paying attention to the news outlets though.

You people have NO IDEA. They will show up and they will be numerous. If only a dozen or two show up, that's enough. However, it will be much more. I wish I could go, but the nearest one is in NYC and I can't go there easily.
Ifreann
09-02-2008, 21:58
You people have NO IDEA. They will show up and they will be numerous. If only a dozen or two show up, that's enough. However, it will be much more. I wish I could go, but the nearest one is in NYC and I can't go there easily.

Well easily thousands have confirmed to go to dozens of different churches. Some will be small and made of fail, but enough should be made of win that the day shall overall be a victory for Anon.
Steelwall
09-02-2008, 21:59
I sincerely hope you're right and that the fight against $cientology spills out into the mainstream.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 22:15
I'm betting fizzle but I'm going to the one near me just to see.
Sel Appa
09-02-2008, 23:40
Well easily thousands have confirmed to go to dozens of different churches. Some will be small and made of fail, but enough should be made of win that the day shall overall be a victory for Anon.

Six people is technically enough as a skeleton crew. 20 or so is the minimum really and I'm certain they will ALL make well over 20.

I'm betting fizzle but I'm going to the one near me just to see.

So quick to dismiss.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 23:46
So quick to dismiss.

I said I'd go, didn't I? Sheesh.
Sel Appa
10-02-2008, 00:02
I said I'd go, didn't I? Sheesh.

Sounded more like "I'll go to see if they fail or not."
Ifreann
10-02-2008, 00:05
Sounded more like "I'll go to see if they fail or not."

That's why I'm going.


You know, if the protest is still going by time I'll be anywhere near.
Indri
10-02-2008, 05:14
Tomorrow is the big day. We are expected.

We stand together. United as one, divided by zero.
Never forgive.
Mad hatters in jeans
10-02-2008, 05:19
Tomorrow is the big day. We are expected.

We stand together. United as one, divided by zero.
Never forgive.

Oh forgive my ignorance, what's happening tomorrow? or should i say today?
Is it pancake day again? damn it isn't is it. i missed that, i'll have to make up for it then.:D
hmmm pancakes, oh what? right why is tomorrow so important?
Bloodlusty Barbarism
10-02-2008, 06:25
Oh forgive my ignorance, what's happening tomorrow? or should i say today?
Is it pancake day again? damn it isn't is it. i missed that, i'll have to make up for it then.:D
hmmm pancakes, oh what? right why is tomorrow so important?

Because they are mobilizing. They are many. They are coming.
Now the legion shall show its true power, and the oppressors shall cower in fear. They will beg forgiveness; none shall be given.

See, I can write like that, too! :p
Straughn
10-02-2008, 07:18
Just keeping this one from dropping out of the "last day's threads". It would be a shame for it to disappear on the 9th when the 10th is when all this stuff is supposed to really come down. Any bets on whether there will be major incidents, or just a fizzle? I don't know enough about the "Anonymous" to predict how likely they actually are to turn out for a "meatspace" event. Fairly large numbers have *said* they will turn out, but...

Think it'll make two + days?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Day
Tmutarakhan
10-02-2008, 07:28
United as one, divided by zero.
Hmmm, when that happens to my students (I'm a math teacher), I tell them to write "No solution."
Chumblywumbly
10-02-2008, 08:03
Tomorrow is the big day. We are expected.

We stand together. United as one, divided by zero.
Never forgive.
We are the grammar.

Never use sentence-structure.

Always conform.

Sound like twats.

Words!!!!!!!!
Divine Imaginary Fluff
10-02-2008, 08:06
It's begun; just saw this posted elsewhere:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189467-5014239,00.html
Cannot think of a name
10-02-2008, 09:21
It's begun; just saw this posted elsewhere:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189467-5014239,00.html

Well, what the fuck do you know, they actually showed up. Maybe tomorrow will be interesting after all...
Straughn
10-02-2008, 09:55
Well, what the fuck do you know, they actually showed up. Maybe tomorrow will be interesting after all...Did you have something else planned?
Cannot think of a name
10-02-2008, 10:07
Did you have something else planned?

It's a couple blocks from a indie theater. If the Anon crowd fizzles I'll just go watch a movie.
Straughn
10-02-2008, 10:16
It's a couple blocks from a indie theater. If the Anon crowd fizzles I'll just go watch a movie.

Sounds like a good use of Sonnetag. If i were down in CA i might meet ya there .... alas, i'm a few miles off.
SoWiBi
10-02-2008, 18:53
Because they are mobilizing. They are many. They are coming.
Now the legion shall show its true power, and the oppressors shall cower in fear. They will beg forgiveness; none shall be given.

See, I can write like that, too! :p

Nope, you used a semicolon, thus, you fail at writing "like that". ;P
Hydesland
10-02-2008, 19:04
Wait till you see pics of London, there was something like 300+ people there!
Psychotic Mongooses
10-02-2008, 19:16
There was one in Dublin too. About 30 odd people turned up, but it's only a small office.

Fun tough.
Cannot think of a name
10-02-2008, 19:22
Wait till you see pics of London, there was something like 300+ people there!

There was one in Dublin too. About 30 odd people turned up, but it's only a small office.

Fun tough.

Fucking fine. I'll go shower and check this nonsense out...
Sel Appa
10-02-2008, 21:23
It's begun; just saw this posted elsewhere:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23189467-5014239,00.html
Anonymous, a notorious internet group whose membership includes hackers
They still have to use the word hackers...They just HAVE to get it in there despite it not being even remotely that relevant.

Well, what the fuck do you know, they actually showed up. Maybe tomorrow will be interesting after all...
<sarc>Yeah, isn't that amazing. Why would anyone think it even possible that they would do this?</sarc>

Young people, when committed to a cause, are relentless.

It's a couple blocks from a indie theater. If the Anon crowd fizzles I'll just go watch a movie.
It's not going to fizzle. Yer really shtartin' to pish me off shir...
Whereyouthinkyougoing
10-02-2008, 21:36
<sarc>Yeah, isn't that amazing. Why would anyone think it even possible that they would do this?</sarc>

Young people, when committed to a cause, are relentless.


It's not going to fizzle. Yer really shtartin' to pish me off shir...
The only way this is not going to fizzle is if Scientology has some more public cock ups in the next couple months or goes after Anonymous. If they're smart, they don't, and that's that.
Bloodlusty Barbarism
10-02-2008, 21:39
Nope, you used a semicolon, thus, you fail at writing "like that". ;P

Well excuuuuuuuuuuse me!
Was that proper semicolon use? Should I have looked that up?
Embarassed.:(
Sel Appa
10-02-2008, 21:44
The only way this is not going to fizzle is if Scientology has some more public cock ups in the next couple months or goes after Anonymous. If they're smart, they don't, and that's that.

CoS can't win without bringing down the entire internet. And then, they would be destroyed by 1.3 billion angry people.
Londim
10-02-2008, 21:51
Scientology has been warned. Now Anonymous takes action.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
10-02-2008, 21:52
CoS can't win without bringing down the entire internet. And then, they would be destroyed by 1.3 billion angry people.
"The internet" couldn't possibly care less about Scientology.

The only part of the internet who cares right now is a few thousand Anonymous people - and I'll believe in their follow-through when I see it.

But since neither of us is psychic we'll just have to agree to disagree and wait and see.
Automagfreek
10-02-2008, 22:01
About 25 of us turned out in Milwaukee, WI in -30 degree weather to support the cause!
Vojvodina-Nihon
10-02-2008, 22:15
I still say these protests are just the Internet trying to prove it's still relevant to current events after the Ron Paul campaign tanked.

Maybe a thousand and a half people, worldwide, showed up. While nobody really knows how many people are part of "Anonymous", I'll venture that that's less than five per cent of the /b/tards alone, to say nothing of the rest of the internet. Of course, the CoS doesn't necessarily know this, so it could be written off as a success.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
10-02-2008, 22:17
About 25 of us turned out in Milwaukee, WI in -30 degree weather to support the cause!
W00t!

Did Scientology do anything? Here they apparently set up video cameras to film the protesters.
Automagfreek
10-02-2008, 22:19
W00t!

Did Scientology do anything? Here they apparently set up video cameras to film the protesters.



They took pictures of us from inside, then locked the doors and turned the lights off. Aside from the occassional wave back when we saw them in the window, they didn't do anything.
CthulhuFhtagn
10-02-2008, 22:23
The only way this is not going to fizzle is if Scientology has some more public cock ups in the next couple months or goes after Anonymous. If they're smart, they don't, and that's that.

That's a damn big "if" right there.
Psychotic Mongooses
10-02-2008, 22:31
That's why I'm going.


You know, if the protest is still going by time I'll be anywhere near.

Wait..... were you the one wearing the top hat?
Copiosa Scotia
10-02-2008, 22:32
Sadly, a major paper prevented me from turning out in Chicago. :(

I'm reading that there've been crowds of 100+ in most major cities where Anon organized protests, and 250 or more in Clearwater. Not too shabby.
The South Islands
10-02-2008, 22:37
Anonymous=Borg?
Johnny B Goode
10-02-2008, 22:39
That's a damn big "if" right there.

From what I know of Scientology, they're not big on the whole "let it be" thing.
Copiosa Scotia
10-02-2008, 22:53
From what I know of Scientology, they're not big on the whole "let it be" thing.

Yep. Scientology is Serious Business, which is what makes them such an excellent target for trolling.
Hydesland
10-02-2008, 23:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHpjcZNM8_k&eurl=http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Project_Chanology_iRL_Raids_Latest_News

Lol I find this so funny!

Edit:

London was awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-nwvZJFKEU&eurl=http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Project_Chanology_iRL_Raids_Latest_News

(look at the first few seconds where they showing everyone on the balcony)
Johnny B Goode
11-02-2008, 00:14
Yep. Scientology is Serious Business, which is what makes them such an excellent target for trolling.

This is going to be very interesting, so sit down and get comfy.
Cannot think of a name
11-02-2008, 00:16
I'll mea culpa in that yep, there was a sizable number of people there. One thing I hadn't realized until I hung out with them for two hours is that a protest without any real organizers can get kind of boring.

There's only so many times people can chant "Knowledge is free; religion should be, too!" and sing happy birthday to the chick that supposedly died in Scientology's care.

They were well behaved and self-policed. Any time someone mentioned something taboo they were shushed. Apparently there is an effort to shift responsibility for hosting them to eBaumsworld, which I have to admit is kind of funny. According to one of them FOX's last report said they all came from eBaumsworld.

I took pictures with my phone, but I don't know why I bothered because I can't get them off the phone.

Lots of people dressed like V, one dude dressed like Raptor Jesus, and 'Moss Beard' who was a big ass dude with a moss mask and a Hello Kitty stereo on his head.

For most of the time I thought they were protesting an empty building but it turns out they were coming in and out of a side door.

They didn't bother to film us as far as I could tell, I didn't see any cameras or anything like that. One guy came out concerned that people might have a hard time getting in and out but the police officer said they weren't. He even complimented the crowd on their cooperation. At one point a bunch of people pilled on the 'Party Van' (a mini van that had brought a group of posters) which apparently the police didn't like. The crowd had them off before the police officer was able to even get there.

I suck at guessing numbers, I think there might have been somewhere between 100-200 people. It started to peter out around 1:30 and I left a little after 2pm. As far as I know it's still going on.

This is San Francisco by the way.
Cannot think of a name
11-02-2008, 00:22
Tom Cruise will kick their ass(es).

Oh yeah, the guy doing Tom Cruise impersonations was creepier than anything else.
B en H
11-02-2008, 00:25
Tom Cruise will kick their ass(es).
Automagfreek
11-02-2008, 00:26
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/10/scientology-protesters-take-streets-clearwater/

"A media release from the Church of Scientology said Anonymous' actions are simply acts of religious bigotry and ploys to gain attention and that Anonymous' guiding materials are the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf."

You know the Scientologists have run out of ammo when they resort to calling their critics Nazis and Commies.
Cannot think of a name
11-02-2008, 00:28
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/feb/10/scientology-protesters-take-streets-clearwater/

"A media release from the Church of Scientology said Anonymous' actions are simply acts of religious bigotry and ploys to gain attention and that Anonymous' guiding materials are the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf."

You know the Scientologists have run out of ammo when they resort to calling their critics Nazis and Commies.

Oh for the love of Jeff...
B en H
11-02-2008, 00:34
You know the Scientologists have run out of ammo when they resort to calling their critics Nazis and Commies.

Nazi-communists?
Daressalaam
11-02-2008, 00:36
scientology is totally not A real religion
Mad hatters in jeans
11-02-2008, 00:56
I must admit that I'm a bit impressed :)

What impressed in general or impressed about annonymous having supporters.
I think they're both daft, too much spare time for them, they should be down in the mines digging out my Gold
Gravlen
11-02-2008, 01:00
I must admit that I'm a bit impressed :)
Psychotic Mongooses
11-02-2008, 01:01
Nazi-communists?

No, not nazi-communists.

http://www.supersimpsons.com/mcbain.jpg

"Commie-Nazis!!"
Non Aligned States
11-02-2008, 01:18
The only way this is not going to fizzle is if Scientology has some more public cock ups in the next couple months or goes after Anonymous. If they're smart, they don't, and that's that.

Scientologists are vicious, but I'm not sure if smart is in the mix. The news article did indicate that there were several Scientologists observers with video cameras, so it's possible that they may use the footage as "proof" of violence against them after splicing it with footage of random riots. Not to mention the whole white powder thing.

Interestingly enough, the media treating them as a cohesive group works in Anon's favor, since Anon claims the white powder wasn't by them, thereby translating to an official group's stance while in reality, they aren't an organized group.

The clout of an organization, yet the elusiveness of its real nature.
The South Islands
11-02-2008, 03:14
Is Anon the wave of the future?
Sel Appa
11-02-2008, 03:29
"The internet" couldn't possibly care less about Scientology.

The only part of the internet who cares right now is a few thousand Anonymous people - and I'll believe in their follow-through when I see it.

But since neither of us is psychic we'll just have to agree to disagree and wait and see.

I said the only way CoS can take down Anonymous is to shut down the entire internet. There are 1.3 billion users of the internet and I don't think they'd be very happy with Scientology. Anonymous is at least in the hundreds of thousands.

I still say these protests are just the Internet trying to prove it's still relevant to current events after the Ron Paul campaign tanked.

Maybe a thousand and a half people, worldwide, showed up. While nobody really knows how many people are part of "Anonymous", I'll venture that that's less than five per cent of the /b/tards alone, to say nothing of the rest of the internet. Of course, the CoS doesn't necessarily know this, so it could be written off as a success.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The Ron Paul thing was just EXTREMELY vocal and had a mouth MUCH larger than its body. His supporters certainly did turn out and they just did not number enough. Look at states like Alaska and Nevada where he got over 20%.

With 100-200 at each major city and maybe like 20 major cities, that's 2000-4000. Add in another maybe 50 locations with 20-50 each and that's 1000-2500. So anywhere between 3000 and 6500 turned out. And as long as the media covered it and people heard about it and thought about it, numbers don't matter.

Lots of people dressed like V,
I'm still wondering where the hell people get those from...
Indri
11-02-2008, 04:25
The closest one to me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22k7npkw0Q). I couldn't make it because of work but I made some prank calls when I got off. When I wasn't Ronald Huckleberry Kazam I was Paul Carnes. I hope I can attend the next one whenever that is.

I bet that we got over 9,000 worldwide.
Cannot think of a name
11-02-2008, 05:49
The closest one to me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f22k7npkw0Q). I couldn't make it because of work but I made some prank calls when I got off. When I wasn't Ronald Huckleberry Kazam I was Paul Carnes. I hope I can attend the next one whenever that is.

I bet that we got over 9,000 worldwide.

March 15th, according to the fliers at the one I went at. Nice one, picking the Ides of March. Even if they didn't do it on purpose someone is bound to realize.

Also, if their next action is the PETA BBQ I was next to the dudes who started thinking about that...though I really wanted to lean in and say, "Focus, guys." But what would be the point...
Hoyteca
11-02-2008, 07:17
Scientology will fall. Contrary to somewhat popular belief, the greatest weapon against Scientology is Scientology itself. One of these days, Scientology is going to make a fatal error. Scientology is a cruel, heartless business that used the whole "religion" thing for the same reason rich people use bank accounts in certain countries other than their own: taxes. As long as they are treated like a religion, their tax rate will be 0%.

Scientology will stop at nothing to appease their gods. Not Xenu or Thetan-Man. Gold. Silver. Green. Yen. Dollar. Peso. Euro. Those are just seven of their true gods.

Scientology will someday kill itself accidently, like so many n00bs have. They think they are leet, but they are not. Anonymous knows their strategies and their weaknesses. As long as Anonymous remains anonymous, Scientology won't be able to resort to false accusations, mostly frivilous lawsuits, and possibly assasinations. Anonymous is more like a bacteria colony than a single entity. Kill one and the colony still thrives. Kill most and it still thrives. Leave even one part living and Anonymous will simply regrow and thrive. Hell, round up each and every member of Anonymous, throw them in a volcano, and nuke it and some kid will learn about what Anonymous was and the group will grow again and thrive again.

Anonymous is many. Anonymous is powerful. Anonymous is invisible. Anonymous has no head to chop off. No, I am not part of Anonymous, though I loathe the "Church" of $cientology and its often-illegal practices of shutting whoever it hates up.
Reploid Productions
11-02-2008, 07:52
500+ people in Los Angeles.

Holy. Crap. Anon, I am impressed!
Dryks Legacy
11-02-2008, 09:34
"It is Anonymous that has repeatedly attempted to suppress free speech through illegal assaults on church websites so as to prevent internet users from obtaining information."

Hypocrites :rolleyes:

The protesters in this city got an article in the paper today!
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23189665-2682,00.html
Andaras
11-02-2008, 09:41
I think the CoS needsan \m/ invasions, with pics to match.
Turquoise Days
11-02-2008, 09:44
Wow, interesting. I never thought I'd say this but, 'Go Anon!'
SeathorniaII
11-02-2008, 10:03
Hypocrites :rolleyes:

The protesters in this city got an article in the paper today!
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23189665-2682,00.html

I like how earlier news articles say

"Anonymous, whose membership includes hackers"

has now become

Anonymous, whose membership included hackers,

What happened to the hackers? :O

:p

Go Anon! I have no idea where the nearest CoS is around here though (Copenhagen). I am fairly sure there is one.
Straughn
11-02-2008, 10:05
What happened to the hackers? :O


They were recruited by the FBI.
Callisdrun
11-02-2008, 10:32
Anonymous is the perfect candidate to strike Scientology. Their usual methods of defamation and character assassination, plus good old fashioned harassment, will not work against Anonymous. There are simply too many to go after.
Hoyteca
11-02-2008, 10:45
Anonymous is the perfect candidate to strike Scientology. Their usual methods of defamation and character assassination, plus good old fashioned harassment, will not work against Anonymous. There are simply too many to go after.

Plus they are practically invisible. Anonymous is like a sniper team. You can't see it and you don't know it's there until you're on the recieving end of the rifle.

With Anonymous, you have an invisible enemy that's going to seriously hurt you.
Honourable Angels
11-02-2008, 10:48
I still say these protests are just the Internet trying to prove it's still relevant to current events after the Ron Paul campaign tanked.

Maybe a thousand and a half people, worldwide, showed up. While nobody really knows how many people are part of "Anonymous", I'll venture that that's less than five per cent of the /b/tards alone, to say nothing of the rest of the internet. Of course, the CoS doesn't necessarily know this, so it could be written off as a success.

Many more then 1500 people turned up - in the London ones, there were at least 400 people for the first demonstration, and it peaked at the second demonstration with an official count of 647.

So, lets say the original 400 went to the second one, too. That's still 647 in London alone. Add Manchester, which had about 60, Birmingham, which had about 50, and Plymouth which had about 30, and thats already *mental maths* 797 people.
Non Aligned States
11-02-2008, 10:50
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23189665-2682,00.html

You know... if everyone dressed up like in that picture, it would fit perfectly with Anonymous opening declaration of war.

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5882592,00.jpg

Anonymous Never Forgives,
Anonymous Never Forgets,
Anonymous Is Legion.

Imagine, several hundred people in black suits with red ties, white gloves, black felt hats and white masks. Too costly to be practical, but something of a statement I imagine.
Eofaerwic
11-02-2008, 12:29
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7237862.stm

It even made BBC news, although you have to search for it since it's not on the front page (probably something to do with Camden fire gaining all the column inches)
Allanea
11-02-2008, 12:35
How's there difference between "protesting against someone's ideals' and 'protesting against their beliefs"?
Hezballoh
11-02-2008, 12:44
Anonymous is the perfect candidate to strike Scientology. Their usual methods of defamation and character assassination, plus good old fashioned harassment, will not work against Anonymous. There are simply too many to go after.

:sniper: I am forming the Middleastern Chapter of Anonymous Die COS DIE !
Hezballoh
11-02-2008, 12:48
Im
If they were really hardcore theyd assassinate Tom Cruise just for "lulz"

sounds like a plan :sniper: :mp5:
Hezballoh
11-02-2008, 13:27
sent the Scientilogists to the middle east, we'll show them how we welcome their kind *hefts shotgun*, no seriously send them to us, we'll take no prisoners
Whereyouthinkyougoing
11-02-2008, 13:42
In Berlin, there's just a small news item in one of the papers today.
Apparently about 30 protesters showed up outside Scientology headquarters - and were outnumbered by the 80 Scientologists working the all-day recruitment fair in the same spot... Police says Scientology registered their fair shortly after Anonymous registered their protest...
All the time, the protesters were heavily filmed and photographed from inside the building.
Laerod
11-02-2008, 14:04
Nazi-communists?
Never seen McBain, huh?
Allanea
11-02-2008, 14:30
In Berlin, there's just a small news item in one of the papers today.
Apparently about 30 protesters showed up outside Scientology headquarters - and were outnumbered by the 80 Scientologists working the all-day recruitment fair in the same spot... Police says Scientology registered their fair shortly after Anonymous registered their protest...
All the time, the protesters were heavily filmed and photographed from inside the building.


PWNED.
Allanea
11-02-2008, 15:17
What?

Here. This.

They said they were campaigning against "toxic ideals"... not the beliefs of members.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
11-02-2008, 15:21
How's there difference between "protesting against someone's ideals' and 'protesting against their beliefs"?

What?
Allanea
11-02-2008, 15:48
Beliefs: Xenu, aliens, weird stuff.

Ideals: Money, harassment, dangerous stuff.

So then they wouldn't protest Freezone?
SeathorniaII
11-02-2008, 15:53
Here. This.

Beliefs: Xenu, aliens, weird stuff.

Ideals: Money, harassment, dangerous stuff.
SeathorniaII
11-02-2008, 15:56
So then they wouldn't protest Freezone?

I dunno, I'm not Anon.

edit: Having read about it just now, probably not.

edit2: Unless there was lulz involved.
Dryks Legacy
11-02-2008, 16:05
Beliefs: Xenu, aliens, weird stuff.

Ideals: Money, harassment, dangerous stuff.

You forgot protection of their trademarks and copyrights.
SeathorniaII
11-02-2008, 16:26
You forgot protection of their trademarks and copyrights.

That would go under Money and/or Harassment in their case
Tmutarakhan
11-02-2008, 20:40
Tom Cruise will kick their ass(es).
I accidentally read that as "Tom Cruise will lick their asses."
Copiosa Scotia
11-02-2008, 20:41
So then they wouldn't protest Freezone?

Nope. As a matter of fact, there's been talk of sponsoring booths for Freezoners at county fairs, expositions and the like next to CoS booths.
B en H
11-02-2008, 20:44
I accidentally read that as "Tom Cruise will lick their asses."

Wich is also one of the possibilities...
Vojvodina-Nihon
11-02-2008, 20:50
Hmm. The protests were more significant than I thought. (Well, at least someone other than Wikinews and a few local papers reported on 'em.)

*shrug* Well, I guess it provides something for them to do.
Cannot think of a name
11-02-2008, 20:51
I got stumbled something about culturejamming the Oscars against Scientology since so much of it is celebrity driven. Plus, you know, the number of viewers it gets. It'd be interesting if they pull that off. If 500+ really did show up in LA then it seems like they certainly have the man power.
Gravlen
11-02-2008, 20:52
What impressed in general or impressed about annonymous having supporters.
I think they're both daft, too much spare time for them, they should be down in the mines digging out my Gold

Impressed that people actually showed up - and all across the globe at that.
Cannot think of a name
11-02-2008, 20:57
Impressed that people actually showed up - and all across the globe at that.

Yeah, I was impressed, too. I'm pretty much 'on record' in this thread saying that they were nothing but talk. I was wrong, they did show up.
Sel Appa
12-02-2008, 01:50
You know... if everyone dressed up like in that picture, it would fit perfectly with Anonymous opening declaration of war.

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5882592,00.jpg

Anonymous Never Forgives,
Anonymous Never Forgets,
Anonymous Is Legion.

Imagine, several hundred people in black suits with red ties, white gloves, black felt hats and white masks. Too costly to be practical, but something of a statement I imagine.
That would be awesome. That pic IS awesome.

Anonymous has succeeded, as I predicted.
The Black Hand of Nod
12-02-2008, 02:38
I'll mea culpa in that yep, there was a sizable number of people there. One thing I hadn't realized until I hung out with them for two hours is that a protest without any real organizers can get kind of boring.

There's only so many times people can chant "Knowledge is free; religion should be, too!" and sing happy birthday to the chick that supposedly died in Scientology's care.

They were well behaved and self-policed. Any time someone mentioned something taboo they were shushed. Apparently there is an effort to shift responsibility for hosting them to eBaumsworld, which I have to admit is kind of funny. According to one of them FOX's last report said they all came from eBaumsworld.

I took pictures with my phone, but I don't know why I bothered because I can't get them off the phone.

Lots of people dressed like V, one dude dressed like Raptor Jesus, and 'Moss Beard' who was a big ass dude with a moss mask and a Hello Kitty stereo on his head.

For most of the time I thought they were protesting an empty building but it turns out they were coming in and out of a side door.

They didn't bother to film us as far as I could tell, I didn't see any cameras or anything like that. One guy came out concerned that people might have a hard time getting in and out but the police officer said they weren't. He even complimented the crowd on their cooperation. At one point a bunch of people pilled on the 'Party Van' (a mini van that had brought a group of posters) which apparently the police didn't like. The crowd had them off before the police officer was able to even get there.

I suck at guessing numbers, I think there might have been somewhere between 100-200 people. It started to peter out around 1:30 and I left a little after 2pm. As far as I know it's still going on.

This is San Francisco by the way.

It turned out these hardcore "Serious" raids actually became failures more or less, from looking at some of it, the London one became a combination Raid\Block Party, and DC had Cake!

Interesting things:
3 Scientologists in different locations were arrested for attacking the protesters.

At one protest 2 People got hit when the engine panel on a bus snapped open and smacked them (It had been windy in that location which caused it to snap open)

the CO$ in Georgia called out the Riot police, who spent 3 hours standing there in their face masks.

1 Person showed up in Tokyo, all by himself, 4 protesters showed up in Tel Aviv.

There were Freezoners at the London Protests, some of the live feeds had anons chatting with them.


Next raids are on March 15, they day where they celebrate LRH's birthday. XD
Reploid Productions
12-02-2008, 03:02
Found pics from an LA Anon:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23670708@N05/sets/72157603890799584/

Edit to add: Plus at least 2 local stations had news blurbs about it- KTLA and KNBC. And there was an article in the LA Times this morning!
ColaDrinkers
12-02-2008, 03:26
Found pics from an LA Anon:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23670708@N05/sets/72157603890799584/

Edit to add: Plus at least 2 local stations had news blurbs about it- KTLA and KNBC. And there was an article in the LA Times this morning!

If you're interested in pictures from LA, these are great: http://www.rob-sheridan.com/tourist/scientology/
Gauthier
12-02-2008, 03:30
If you're interested in pictures from LA, these are great: http://www.rob-sheridan.com/tourist/scientology/

I loved the Cruisethulhu T-Shirt myself.
Sel Appa
12-02-2008, 03:35
Turnouts

USA

* America: Philadelphia, PA: 150
* America: New York City, NY: 250+
* America: New Haven, CT: 35-40
* America: Las Vegas, NV: 45-60
* America: Clearwater, FL: 250
* America: Boston, MA: 200+
* America: Farmington Hills, MI: 120
* America: Dallas, TX: 100+
* America: Columbus, OH: 100
* America: Seattle, WA: 150+
* America: San Francisco, CA: 150-200
* America: Milwaukee, WI: 25-30
* America: Memphis, TN: 25-30
* America: Boulder, CO: 17
* America: Denver, CO: 50-70


Europe

* United Kingdom: Edinburgh: ~130
* United Kingdom: Manchester: ~200
* United Kingdom: London: ~500
* United Kingdom: Birmingham: ~100


Canada

* Canada: Ottawa: ~30
* Canada: Edmonton: ~50
* Canada: Montreal: ~50
* Canada: Toronto: 200+
* Canada: Vancouver: ~150
* Canada: Winnipeg: 20-30

Australia

* Australia: Perth: ~150
* Australia: Adelaide: ~150
* Australia: Melbourne: 150+
* Australia: Sydney: 200+

This is basically 100% Anglosphere. The problem appears to be that they need translations to help with non-Anglosphere rids. Otherwhise, this won't leave those 4 countries.
VietnamSounds
12-02-2008, 04:41
Are these guys really going to get attacked if they don't wear masks? I think they're just so used to hiding behind their internet names that they can't stand to piss people off while showing their face any more.
Gauthier
12-02-2008, 04:43
Are these guys really going to get attacked if they don't wear masks? I think they're just so used to hiding behind their internet names that they can't stand to piss people off while showing their face any more.

Obviously you know nothing about $cientology's standard operating procedure of tracking down and harassing critics. Frivolous lawsuits and picketings are just the more well-known and legal tactics they use.
Callisdrun
12-02-2008, 04:43
Are these guys really going to get attacked if they don't wear masks? I think they're just so used to hiding behind their internet names that they can't stand to piss people off while showing their face any more.

People have been followed by Scientologists and harassed. So yes, it's a very real threat. In such numbers, maybe not so much, but one doesn't want to take the risk.
VietnamSounds
12-02-2008, 04:48
Well if you can afford a lawyer to fight off stupid lawsuits that just makes you look like a hero and the Scientologists look like morons. But I can understand why they would wear a mask if they thought their house was going to be burned down or something.

Basically the mask image just isn't a good one. It reminds you of the klu klux klan, darth vader, slipknot, and robbers, not protesters. Even worse it reminds you of bad internet cosplayers.
Sagittarya
12-02-2008, 04:54
The Clearwater protests were wonderful. We were expecting public outrage, but almost every car passing gave a honk of support, a thumbs up, or some affirmative gesture.

Citizens here don't like the "Church" at all, we're sick of them inhabiting our city.
Sagittarya
12-02-2008, 04:55
People have been followed by Scientologists and harassed. So yes, it's a very real threat. In such numbers, maybe not so much, but one doesn't want to take the risk.

Fuck that, people who have left the Church have been found dead in a few weeks.

Scientologists are dangerous...
Sagittarya
12-02-2008, 04:56
Are these guys really going to get attacked if they don't wear masks? I think they're just so used to hiding behind their internet names that they can't stand to piss people off while showing their face any more.

Only about half were wearing masks.

It was strange though cause those fuckers were standing there taking a shitload of pictures.
Gauthier
12-02-2008, 04:57
Well if you can afford a lawyer to fight off stupid lawsuits that just makes you look like a hero and the Scientologists look like morons. But I can understand why they would wear a mask if they thought their house was going to be burned down or something.

Except $cientology has plenty of money to throw into the lawsuits. The average human being doesn't. And that's just the legal tactics. Look up Operation Freakout as an example of how dirty the Co$ can get.

Basically the mask image just isn't a good one. It reminds you of the klu klux klan, darth vader, slipknot, and robbers, not protesters. Even worse it reminds you of bad internet cosplayers.

Many of the protestors were wearing Guy Fawkes masks. If anything it's an inside joke and political statement at the same time.
ColaDrinkers
12-02-2008, 05:03
Are these guys really going to get attacked if they don't wear masks? I think they're just so used to hiding behind their internet names that they can't stand to piss people off while showing their face any more.

Like others have said, you don't know anything about Scientology and what they do to critics, but you also don't understand the group of Anonymous. You see, we Anonymous do not have internet names. We are all Anonymous.
Callisdrun
12-02-2008, 05:51
Well if you can afford a lawyer to fight off stupid lawsuits that just makes you look like a hero and the Scientologists look like morons. But I can understand why they would wear a mask if they thought their house was going to be burned down or something.

Basically the mask image just isn't a good one. It reminds you of the klu klux klan, darth vader, slipknot, and robbers, not protesters. Even worse it reminds you of bad internet cosplayers.

Many anons probably can't. And even those that can, can't afford nearly as many attack dog lawyers as $cientology.
Hoyteca
12-02-2008, 05:54
The more I think about it, the more I want to join Anonymous, but there's always the threat of Scientology finding out about my Anonymousness, tracking me down, and doing horrible, illegal things to me and my family. Scientology is less a religion and more a criminal organization that only wants to make money and gets rid of people who get in the way or otherwise threaten Scientology's profits, whether the amount is better measured in millions of dollars or mere pennies.

Scientology is incredibly dangerous and I encourage all protesters to wear masks and make sure they aren't being followed when going home. Scientology is like a bear. It's not exactly the Einstein of the animal kingdom, but you better have a gun or a slow friend nearby if you piss it off.
Callisdrun
12-02-2008, 05:56
The more I think about it, the more I want to join Anonymous, but there's always the threat of Scientology finding out about my Anonymousness, tracking me down, and doing horrible, illegal things to me and my family. Scientology is less a religion and more a criminal organization that only wants to make money and gets rid of people who get in the way or otherwise threaten Scientology's profits, whether the amount is better measured in millions of dollars or mere pennies.

Scientology is incredibly dangerous and I encourage all protesters to wear masks and make sure they aren't being followed when going home. Scientology is like a bear. It's not exactly the Einstein of the animal kingdom, but you better have a gun or a slow friend nearby if you piss it off.

You're an Anonymous as soon as you go to one of the chans, or Encyclopedia Dramatica, or any other myriad sites involved with it. Most of which you are not allowed to link to here.

Scientology isn't going to track you just from posting on a message board. And if you go to a protest masked and take public transit, they won't be able to do shit. That's why Anonymous is such a good group to take down Scientology.
Dryks Legacy
12-02-2008, 06:04
The more I think about it, the more I want to join Anonymous, but there's always the threat of Scientology finding out about my Anonymousness, tracking me down, and doing horrible, illegal things to me and my family. Scientology is less a religion and more a criminal organization that only wants to make money and gets rid of people who get in the way or otherwise threaten Scientology's profits, whether the amount is better measured in millions of dollars or mere pennies.

And this is why we must destroy it, or at least send it the message that we're watching it, and we won't stand for those things.
Port Arcana
12-02-2008, 06:11
I have to say, the new Anon motivational poster is pretty epic. :)

http://i27.tinypic.com/ieeblv.jpg

London represent! :P
Sel Appa
12-02-2008, 06:15
You're an Anonymous as soon as you go to one of the chans, or Encyclopedia Dramatica, or any other myriad sites involved with it. Most of which you are not allowed to link to here.

Awesome. I've done like all of that.* I still feel incomplete though. I'm hoping to get to a 15 March protest in NYC if I can organize a local group to join me with whoever already will be there.

*
been to the chans
tried to post on a chan, not sure if it worked
been to ED lots
been to the operations wiki lots
done a habbo raid
done a gamestop raid


Yeah, I guess I am anon...
Callisdrun
12-02-2008, 06:30
Awesome. I've done like all of that.* I still feel incomplete though. I'm hoping to get to a 15 March protest in NYC if I can organize a local group to join me with whoever already will be there.

*
been to the chans
tried to post on a chan, not sure if it worked
been to ED lots
been to the operations wiki lots
done a habbo raid
done a gamestop raid


Yeah, I guess I am anon...

Lol, you're definitely an anon. Except on this forum, where we have names. I couldn't make the journey up to SF for the 10th raid because I was quite sick.
VietnamSounds
12-02-2008, 06:43
Like others have said, you don't know anything about Scientology and what they do to critics,Yes, that's why I freaking asked.but you also don't understand the group of Anonymous. You see, we Anonymous do not have internet names. We are all Anonymous.Calling yourself anonymous instead of an internet name is redundant.
Vetalia
12-02-2008, 06:46
where have you been for the past couple decades? masking up during protests is widely practiced and is rather iconic. and really, it ought be standard operating procedure in many protest situations.

Especially when dealing with a group as unethical as Scientology...Fair Game and all that quasi-totalitarian garbage.
Free Soviets
12-02-2008, 06:51
Basically the mask image just isn't a good one. It reminds you of the klu klux klan, darth vader, slipknot, and robbers, not protesters. Even worse it reminds you of bad internet cosplayers.

where have you been for the past couple decades? masking up during protests is widely practiced and is rather iconic. and really, it ought be standard operating procedure in many protest situations.
Turquoise Days
12-02-2008, 06:55
Yes, that's why I freaking asked.Calling yourself anonymous instead of an internet name is redundant.
Anonymous came from the Chans, where if you post without leaving a name you are labeled as Anonymous (posted by Anonymous). Its a running joke.
where have you been for the past couple decades? masking up during protests is widely practiced and is rather iconic. and really, it ought be standard operating procedure in many protest situations.

Tis a wise move, certainly.
Straughn
12-02-2008, 08:08
I accidentally read that as "Tom Cruise will lick their asses."
Which puts the Cruisethulu shirt into perspective.
Cannot think of a name
12-02-2008, 08:13
Lol, you're definitely an anon. Except on this forum, where we have names. I couldn't make the journey up to SF for the 10th raid because I was quite sick.

It got kinda boring kinda quick. Though, I didn't have anything in common with those guys except a severe mistrust of Scientology. That might have helped.

What also would have helped is if that burger stand next to them had been open.
Callisdrun
12-02-2008, 08:27
It got kinda boring kinda quick. Though, I didn't have anything in common with those guys except a severe mistrust of Scientology. That might have helped.

What also would have helped is if that burger stand next to them had been open.

I bet if the owners of the stand heard about the raid, they'd regret having been closed. They would have run out of patties.
Straughn
12-02-2008, 08:29
It got kinda boring kinda quick. Though, I didn't have anything in common with those guys except a severe mistrust of Scientology.
You should've invited them for a tryst here on NSG.
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Cannot think of a name
12-02-2008, 08:57
I bet if the owners of the stand heard about the raid, they'd regret having been closed. They would have run out of patties.
Maybe they didn't want to upset the Scientologists who probably buy burgers there. Or not. I would have opened. We had to walk two blocks to a Subway to eat.
You should've invited them for a tryst here on NSG.
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>.>

I actually thought I should have a blank name tag like my nation's flag on my jacket in case there was someone from Nationstates there that might recognize it. If no one recognized it they would just think I was making a pun on Anonymous.
Straughn
12-02-2008, 09:03
I actually thought I should have a blank name tag like my nation's flag on my jacket in case there was someone from Nationstates there that might recognize it. If no one recognized it they would just think I was making a pun on Anonymous.Representin', yo!
*props*
Would've just had to get a press photo. You might've even got donuts and a Get-Out-of-Mod Free card!
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Call to power
12-02-2008, 09:26
I actually thought I should have a blank name tag like my nation's flag on my jacket in case there was someone from Nationstates there that might recognize it. If no one recognized it they would just think I was making a pun on Anonymous.

do I smell the making of an NS war on CO$!?

we would have the coolest masks and be known only as [violet]
Gravlen
12-02-2008, 21:20
do I smell the making of an NS war on CO$!?

we would have the coolest masks and be known only as [violet]

No, you don't smell that. The reason being what Barringtonia previously stated:


We are NSG
We are...well, legion's stretching it I suppose, a gaggle? A mob!
We do not...

...oh look, shiny things
Cannot think of a name
12-02-2008, 21:23
No, you don't smell that. The reason being what Barringtonia previously stated:


We are NSG
We are...well, legion's stretching it I suppose, a gaggle? A mob!
We do not...

...oh look, shiny things

Quality.
Cannot think of a name
12-02-2008, 21:44
Kind of a thorough article for a college paper. (http://spectrum.buffalo.edu/article.php?id=35258)

And, holy shit! I didn't see this guy! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/buddyrockafeller/2256115710/in/set-72157603886770113/)

I'm not in any of those photos. I think they were taken after I left, because I don't remember anyone with a video camera showing up. It does have picture of Mossbeard and Raptor Jesus, who I spent some time with.

I can't get the photos I took off my phone unfortunately.
Ladamesansmerci
12-02-2008, 22:53
No, you don't smell that. The reason being what Barringtonia previously stated:


We are NSG
We are...well, legion's stretching it I suppose, a gaggle? A mob!
We do not...

...oh look, shiny things
Gravlen, I want to have your sexy hawt babies. :p
Dryks Legacy
12-02-2008, 23:46
I actually thought I should have a blank name tag like my nation's flag on my jacket in case there was someone from Nationstates there that might recognize it. If no one recognized it they would just think I was making a pun on Anonymous.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:W6Lg8NolV5c34M:http://www.popmatters.com/columns/horning/images/050510.jpg


It would have been strangely appropriate.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
13-02-2008, 00:09
The Clearwater protests were wonderful. We were expecting public outrage, but almost every car passing gave a honk of support, a thumbs up, or some affirmative gesture.

Citizens here don't like the "Church" at all, we're sick of them inhabiting our city.
Awesome! I love that there was such a big turnout in Clearwater.

I watched some videos of various protests last night on Youtube and in the one from Las Vegas (which made the turnout there look like all of 10 people or so, sadly) lots of passing cars honked, too. Loved it.

where have you been for the past couple decades? masking up during protests is widely practiced and is rather iconic. and really, it ought be standard operating procedure in many protest situations.
It's actually illegal here. But, for some completely unfathomable reason, apparently wearing a paper mask is not illegal, according to the sites preparing for the protests here. Go figure. So they had put up downloadable pics of a Guy Fawkes mask and of a Tom Cruise mask - and the mere mental image of a whole group of people wearing Tom Cruise's face was so brilliant that it breaks my heart that I can't find the site anymore right now. Anybody else come across that?

I actually thought I should have a blank name tag like my nation's flag on my jacket in case there was someone from Nationstates there that might recognize it. If no one recognized it they would just think I was making a pun on Anonymous.
Perfection.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:W6Lg8NolV5c34M:http://www.popmatters.com/columns/horning/images/050510.jpg


It would have been strangely appropriate.
Man, we totally should... <<
Reploid Productions
13-02-2008, 01:05
What astounds me is that not a single Anon at ANY of these events did anything to get in trouble with police. (Though there are a scattering of reports of Anon/potential Sci-plants trying to cause trouble, but they were universally shut down by the rest of the protesters.)

I honestly think that perhaps we're seeing the rise of a new sort of Anonymous, a more universal one than the 'stereotypical' variation that comes from ED or the *chans. Maybe an Anonymous that honestly deserves to be called "the collective will of the Internet." Hell, look at how many of us in NSG here are agreeing with the protest actions and talking even in jest about joining the effort. Imagine how many NSers actually DID participate, but haven't said so to protect their anonymity.

And another angle to ponder on: Has there been a documented instance of 4th generation warfare between two non-state entities like this? Particularly with the destruction of one being the clearly stated objective.

I am most curious to see if they can duplicate Feb 10's success on March 15.
Moonshine
13-02-2008, 02:44
...

Add Manchester, which had about 60

...



There were way more than that number in Manchester. I was there with my cameras photographing and filming the stuff. I think there were more than the 100 that Wikinews has eventually settled on as well. I'd say close to 200 at its peak, and a whole lot of public support as well. Lots of "honk if you hate the CoS"-type signs up, and everyone from bus drivers to bicyclists honking, beeping or dinging as they went past. The crowds were well behaved, even when some sourpuss on a bike responded to the "ring your bell" pleas with a resounding "F*** off" and a raised middle finger. That drew a unified "ooOOOOOooooh" handbags-at-dawn sound from the crowd, which was, I believe the phrase here is "epic win".

In fact I'd say the whole Manchester event was a class act. The impromptu rendition of Bohemian Rhapsody was fun as well. Have a look and see for yourself! (http://grumphuttock.myby.co.uk/clambake_small)
Moonshine
13-02-2008, 02:56
Are these guys really going to get attacked if they don't wear masks? I think they're just so used to hiding behind their internet names that they can't stand to piss people off while showing their face any more.

I had no mask. I also had a ridiculously large VHS camcorder on my shoulder, attached to a battery pack that could probably run most of the east coast US in the event of a power failure. I'm still here and haven't been attacked, yet.

That said, one of the crowd pointed out to me that the guys in the CoS offices were filming from the third floor. Indeed they were, and I could make out the distinct shape of a Handycam pointing back at me from the window. So, I swung the camcorder up and zoomed in. Handycam Man disappeared within a few seconds.

10 minutes later the lense was back in the window. So I swing my fat-ass camera up there and zoom in again. Handycam disappears again. I carried on toying with them like that a couple of times, then decided "stuff it, let them film."

There was some ginger-haired Scientologist lady who came out to argue her side. Kudos for at least bothering to do anything rather than sit inside the offices having a staring competition with the protesters like the other church members, but she declined to be filmed when I asked. Strange, but that's the way it goes I guess.

Until the next time.
Sel Appa
13-02-2008, 03:29
Its a running joke.
I think Fox News 11 started it though because they didn't know what it was all about as the clip clearly indicates.
Cannot think of a name
13-02-2008, 04:21
Hell, look at how many of us in NSG here are agreeing with the protest actions and talking even in jest about joining the effort. Imagine how many NSers actually DID participate, but haven't said so to protect their anonymity.


I actually went. Granted I was more or less going to see if they were full of shit, but I went.

If they pull off the Ides of March thing I'm going to rent a camera and go. If I can afford it, that is.
Hoyteca
13-02-2008, 20:29
I want to protest so much, but I have no mask or time. :(
Cannot think of a name
13-02-2008, 20:53
I want to protest so much, but I have no mask or time. :(

I just zipped my jacket up to my nose and wore a hat with a big brim.
Shimokorihi
13-02-2008, 22:35
I want to protest so much, but I have no mask or time. :(

I just zipped my jacket up to my nose and wore a hat with a big brim.

To Hoyteca: Yeah, you'll have to take care of the time problem yourself. Still, a hat, sunglasses and a scarf is fine too. If you insist on a mask, here's a web URL to print out the parts for a Guy Fawkes mask http://pigmystrong.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/4chan-guy-fawkes-mask.pdf

As for making plans, try partyvan.info and check out the Project Chanology page.

To Cannot think of a name: Nice idea there, be better if you had sunglasses with that.

To FreeZone (group of people w/ Scientology beliefs but without the corrupt church): :cool:

To the 'Church'(cult) of Scientology: :upyours:

To all Anon present: See you at the next /r/aid!
:D:gundge::sniper::mp5::sniper::gundge::D
Indri
14-02-2008, 00:17
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Reploid Productions
14-02-2008, 01:11
The forums at www.enturbulation.org are a pretty good source for protest info, too. Plus they've been catalogueing all the media and YouTube stuff. Seems to me like it's the "cleaner" and less script-kiddie attack prone version of the Chanology info that's up on Partyvan.
Honsria
14-02-2008, 01:26
unfortunately I don't believe that this is actually a message to Scientology, but more of a hoax. If it is for real than I am all for the dismantling of that sham of a religion, but really, until there is some actual actions taken I don't believe this is anything to get excited about.
Sel Appa
14-02-2008, 01:33
The forums at www.enturbulation.org are a pretty good source for protest info, too. Plus they've been catalogueing all the media and YouTube stuff. Seems to me like it's the "cleaner" and less script-kiddie attack prone version of the Chanology info that's up on Partyvan.

Partyvan has the best info for privately-operated pranks.
Cannot think of a name
14-02-2008, 01:59
Partyvan has the best info for privately-operated pranks.

Ah, partyvan, that's an inside joke I didn't get. They had a van there and I thought that was the partyvan, I didn't realize it had a dual meaning.
Indri
14-02-2008, 04:44
unfortunately I don't believe that this is actually a message to Scientology, but more of a hoax. If it is for real than I am all for the dismantling of that sham of a religion, but really, until there is some actual actions taken I don't believe this is anything to get excited about.
The worldwide protests went as planned on Lisa's B-day. From the word on the chans the next is going to be March 15.
Cannot think of a name
14-02-2008, 04:52
To Cannot think of a name: Nice idea there, be better if you had sunglasses with that.


I totally did.
CthulhuFhtagn
14-02-2008, 05:12
To Hoyteca: Yeah, you'll have to take care of the time problem yourself. Still, a hat, sunglasses and a scarf is fine too. If you insist on a mask, here's a web URL to print out the parts for a Guy Fawkes mask http://pigmystrong.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/4chan-guy-fawkes-mask.pdf

You're not supposed to wear a Guy Fawkes mask.
Honsria
14-02-2008, 05:19
The worldwide protests went as planned on Lisa's B-day. From the word on the chans the next is going to be March 15.

sweet. :D
New Granada
14-02-2008, 09:01
So, did slowing their website down destroy scientology yet.

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:
Indri
14-02-2008, 09:06
So, did slowing their website down destroy scientology yet.

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:
But it did get a reaction. And the protests are informing the public of the crimes. I'll be contacting my local news stations and papers to request that they cover the March 15 protests. The more that people learn about this evil cult the more they will demand that it be stopped. This is not about the beliefs of scientology or scientologists, it is about their practices.
New Granada
14-02-2008, 09:42
But it did get a reaction. And the protests are informing the public of the crimes. I'll be contacting my local news stations and papers to request that they cover the March 15 protests. The more that people learn about this evil cult the more they will demand that it be stopped. This is not about the beliefs of scientology or scientologists, it is about their practices.

Uh huh
Cannot think of a name
14-02-2008, 09:43
The should get with John (http://www.coltranechurch.org/) and truly be saved.

I mean, if you're going to be in a personality cult, that personality should be the most bad ass sax player to have played, no?
Mirkana
15-02-2008, 04:40
OK, I wasn't sure this sort of thing could last. But it seems I was wrong.

This is getting big. And it will only get bigger. Scientology is now opposed by the Internet itself.

They are going to die.
Reploid Productions
15-02-2008, 23:03
Hope the Ides protest goes as well as the Feb 10th one did! =D

I think it will just keep getting bigger... as I think I mentioned earlier in the thread, the Anonymous carrying out this 'war' isn't the same Anonymous that started it. The Channers might have started it, but it has since drawn in people not normally tied into Anonymous.

Now, it truly is the final boss of the Internet! :D
Geniasis
15-02-2008, 23:08
Hope the Ides protest goes as well as the Feb 10th one did! =D

I think it will just keep getting bigger... as I think I mentioned earlier in the thread, the Anonymous carrying out this 'war' isn't the same Anonymous that started it. The Channers might have started it, but it has since drawn in people not normally tied into Anonymous.

Now, it truly is the final boss of the Internet! :D

Let's just hope that the CoS can't quad-summon Knights of the Round.
Ifreann
17-02-2008, 01:19
Oh geez, this is...:headbang:

From this thread on Enturbulation (http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3654):


So Anonymous has a spacedy fleet now? Or are minions of a spacedy fleet? Geez! :rolleyes:You KNOW Anon is going to have an absolute field day with this!
Anon in space? Doing a barrel roll has never been easier.
Reploid Productions
17-02-2008, 01:23
Oh geez, this is...:headbang:

From this thread on Enturbulation (http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3654):
I have received intelligence ( if you can call it that):

Apparently, DM has accepted an explanation for the Sudden Anonoymous
Uprising Phenomenom (Plague of those below 2.0 on Tone Scale) that
defies all reason. Allegedly some brilliant Hubbard fanatic has
convinced many senior Co$ that the Marcabs, the Fourth or Fifth
Invader Fleet and the Psychos have used the Internet to take control
of thousands of net Minions.
These hapless victims are attacking Scientology under the direction of
the Psychos immediate Lieutenants: ARSCC (wdne). Several current and
formerly overtly prominent ARS Sps are deemed to be Regional Directors
of Operations for Anonymous. These Regional directors will be targeted
for express handling should legal efforts fail to win injunctions
against the mass demonstrations.

I've had this madness communicated to me from two different and
usually reliable sources.

Have they blown our cover?

So Anonymous has a spacedy fleet now? Or are minions of a spacedy fleet? Geez! :rolleyes:You KNOW Anon is going to have an absolute field day with this!
Cannot think of a name
17-02-2008, 01:29
Oh geez, this is...:headbang:

From this thread on Enturbulation (http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3654):


So Anonymous has a spacedy fleet now? Or are minions of a spacedy fleet? Geez! :rolleyes:You KNOW Anon is going to have an absolute field day with this!

That made little to no sense to me.
Vandal-Unknown
17-02-2008, 01:30
I've had this madness communicated to me from two different and
usually reliable sources.

Madness? THIS! IS! SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Mad hatters in jeans
17-02-2008, 01:33
Madness? THIS! IS! SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

That's weird, i was watching that only a few hours ago.
Things become curiouser and curiouser.
Another glitch in the matrix?
*backs away from PC screen*
Reploid Productions
17-02-2008, 02:57
That made little to no sense to me.

The tl;dr version: Anonymous is being controlled by space aliens and psychologists via mind control over the Internet to picket Scientology.
Straughn
17-02-2008, 04:24
That's weird, i was watching that only a few hours ago.
Things become curiouser and curiouser.
Another glitch in the matrix?
*backs away from PC screen*

The weird thing is that we all dress the part. It's been a HUGE hit since the movie came out.
Vojvodina-Nihon
17-02-2008, 05:10
The tl;dr version: Anonymous is being controlled by space aliens and psychologists via mind control over the Internet to picket Scientology.

Hey.... it's real life. It doesn't have to make sense.
Cannot think of a name
17-02-2008, 11:35
So, for Anon on the Ides of March protest...


The 10th was interesting and all, just to see if you guys would show up-because to be honest, we didn't think you would. So just making the scene was enough. But I have to say, it got boring quick. You all are new to real life protesting, so it's understandable. But now that you have the first one under your belt, it's time to step things up. You should take some tips from the pros. I know you don't like hippies, but all things being equal, hippies know how to protest.

First of all, remember that a protest is theater. Now, sure, there was a little bit of understanding of this, but protest as theater has to go beyond forum cosplay. Even flashmobs have a spectacle in mind. Think about it, you're going to be there for a few hours-plan some activities. At noon it's megaphone speech time, 12:45 a birthday party for that chick, whatshername, the one that died. 1:30 a Will Smith intervention. 2:00 is 'Free Katie!!!'

Second, make sure people are going to follow you on your 'spontaneous' outburst and if someone starts something during a lull, for fucks sake follow him. Sure, you might feel like it's lame to do another Rick Astley sing along, but the party was dying, don't let your companions die on the vine, too.

Third, props. And I don't mean V for Vendetta masks. Signs are good and all, but props are what make the day. Giant Xenu and Tom Cruise puppets, well that just writes itself. Space ships. A confessional booth with a credit card slot. You get the idea.

Finally, give passers by a reason to stop or drivers to honk. Mock up events (see the confessional booth above), induction ceremonies, do free 'audits'...go to town.

There's more, but that should be enough to get you guys going.
Gauthier
17-02-2008, 14:11
Finally, give passers by a reason to stop or drivers to honk. Mock up events (see the confessional booth above), induction ceremonies, do free 'audits'...go to town.

There's more, but that should be enough to get you guys going.

Inviting some local Free Zoners to perform them might add more emphasis to the protest's message and defuse the "religious persecution" card that the Co$ likes to play.
Cannot think of a name
17-02-2008, 14:30
Inviting some local Free Zoners to perform them might add more emphasis to the protest's message and defuse the "religious persecution" card that the Co$ likes to play.

Now that I looked up what the hell a free zoner is...that's not a bad idea. Though it seems they wouldn't appreciate some of the props I suggested, but that's okay.
The Lone Alliance
17-02-2008, 21:16
Inviting some local Free Zoners to perform them might add more emphasis to the protest's message and defuse the "religious persecution" card that the Co$ likes to play.
Uhh... Depending on the Freezone type that could backfire, some Freezone groups still ask for money.

Nevertheless there still were Freezone members at some of the 10th protests.
-------

And everyone has realized that the protests with memes and plans ruled.

PS: On the 15th there will be Delicious Birthday Cake at every protest.

The Washington DC protest had cake, Speeches, and songs.
It was epic win.
Sel Appa
18-02-2008, 01:08
So, for Anon on the Ides of March protest...


The 10th was interesting and all, just to see if you guys would show up-because to be honest, we didn't think you would. So just making the scene was enough. But I have to say, it got boring quick. You all are new to real life protesting, so it's understandable. But now that you have the first one under your belt, it's time to step things up. You should take some tips from the pros. I know you don't like hippies, but all things being equal, hippies know how to protest.

First of all, remember that a protest is theater. Now, sure, there was a little bit of understanding of this, but protest as theater has to go beyond forum cosplay. Even flashmobs have a spectacle in mind. Think about it, you're going to be there for a few hours-plan some activities. At noon it's megaphone speech time, 12:45 a birthday party for that chick, whatshername, the one that died. 1:30 a Will Smith intervention. 2:00 is 'Free Katie!!!'

Second, make sure people are going to follow you on your 'spontaneous' outburst and if someone starts something during a lull, for fucks sake follow him. Sure, you might feel like it's lame to do another Rick Astley sing along, but the party was dying, don't let your companions die on the vine, too.

Third, props. And I don't mean V for Vendetta masks. Signs are good and all, but props are what make the day. Giant Xenu and Tom Cruise puppets, well that just writes itself. Space ships. A confessional booth with a credit card slot. You get the idea.

Finally, give passers by a reason to stop or drivers to honk. Mock up events (see the confessional booth above), induction ceremonies, do free 'audits'...go to town.

There's more, but that should be enough to get you guys going.

Holy shit! Put that on Partyvan or IRC.
Cannot think of a name
18-02-2008, 01:24
Holy shit! Put that on Partyvan or IRC.

Well, I'm the guy who thought 'partyvan' was the minivan that some of the guys showed up in, so I'm not that guy...
Sel Appa
18-02-2008, 01:59
Well, I'm the guy who thought 'partyvan' was the minivan that some of the guys showed up in, so I'm not that guy...

I'll see what I can do.