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So, what's up with this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZWoGX1cb8

Pretty much anyone on here knows more about Anonymous and /b/ and whatnot than I do, so hopefully someone has some further information about this?


Edit: For those who cannot watch the video for some reason or other, here's the text:

Hello, leaders of Scientology. We are Anonymous.

Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of misinformation, your suppression of dissent, your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye. With the leakage of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, the extent of your malign influence over those who have come to trust you as leaders has been made clear to us. Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed. For the good of your followers, for the good of mankind and re everywhere. You will find no recourse in attack, because for each of us that falls, ten more will take his/her place.

We are cognizant of the many who may decry our methods as parallel to those of the Church of Scientology. Those who espouse the obvious truth that your organization will use the actions of Anonymous as an example of the persecution of which you have for so long warned your followers. This is acceptable to Anonymous. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs.

Over time, as we begin to merge our pulse with that of your Church, the suppression of your followers will become increasingly difficult to maintain. Believers will become aware that salvation needn't come at the expense of their livelihood. They will become aware that the stress and the frustration that they feel is not due to us, but a source much closer to them. Yes, we are SPs. But the sum of suppression we could ever muster is eclipsed by that of your own RTC.

Knowledge is free.

We are Anonymous.

We are Legion.

We do not forgive.

We do not forget.

Expect us.

Very dramatic. :P

Wow. I'm not easily impressed, so I am not impressed. :) But I hope it's not just a boast.

this is going to be fun to watch happen

This is gonna get ugly. Scientology doesnt like it when people oppose them.

So, what's up with this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZWoGX1cb8

Pretty much anyone on here knows more about Anonymous and /b/ and whatnot than I do, so hopefully someone has some further information about this?

For those of us who can't watch YouTube videos right now, would it be possible to give a little synopsis of what the video is all about?

For those of us who can't watch YouTube videos right now, would it be possible to give a little synopsis of what the video is all about?

'anonymous' saying they are going to do everything they can to stop scientology.

Could anyone explain what this 'anonymous' really is, I've heard a lot about them, but I don't really know what it is and I don't have enough time to search for it, and to be honest I don't care enough.

For those of us who can't watch YouTube videos right now, would it be possible to give a little synopsis of what the video is all about?

Er...something about anonymous will destroy scientology. The video is worth watching if you can, it's got pretty pictures of the sky moving very fast and a voice distorted by some electronic gizmo threatening scientology.
So good video, but the actual evidence of this guy doing anything but play about is zero.

@SoWiBi: what they said. *nods*

Could anyone explain what this 'anonymous' really is, I've heard a lot about them, but I don't really know what it is and I don't have enough time to search for it, and to be honest I don't care enough.
I think it's everybody posting on /b/ and similar boards. Or something. Because they're all called Anonymous, no actual user names. Or something. <<

'anonymous' saying they are going to do everything they can to stop scientology.

Could anyone explain what this 'anonymous' really is, I've heard a lot about them, but I don't really know what it is and I don't have enough time to search for it, and to be honest I don't care enough.
Anonymous is probably the people who oppose it in all its forms. We know that it is dangerous to make ourselves known because then we become fair game for harassment and other forms of noisy invasions of our privacy. It's easier to strike from the shadows without making yourself known. Like a covert agent during the Cold War.

Scientology acts like America in Iraq; everyone knows its there and it's making noise.

The anonymous is the covert agent who slips poison into your drink without you seeing.

How can you fight that which you cannot see or hear? :D

Anonymous is probably the people who oppose it in all its forms. We know that it is dangerous to make ourselves known because then we become fair game for harassment and other forms of noisy invasions of our privacy. It's easier to strike from the shadows without making yourself known. Like a covert agent during the Cold War.


I thought they already existed prior to this video and I remember something about a fox report on them...


I think it's everybody posting on /b/ and similar boards. Or something. Because they're all called Anonymous, no actual user names. Or something. <<

Yeah, I heard something similar in the thread about fox/anonymous, but are they organized or something, or is this just the work of someone doing this for fun?

'anonymous' saying they are going to do everything they can to stop scientology.

Umm.. is that you snipping the details because you can't bearsed to give them and would like to tell me to just go and watch the fucking thing myself later, or is it realy nothing more than an "OMG we're gonna destroy u lol" thing without any, you know, plan? Substance?

Could anyone explain what this 'anonymous' really is, I've heard a lot about them, but I don't really know what it is and I don't have enough time to search for it, and to be honest I don't care enough.

4chan is an anonymous BBS which does not require the user to supply any personal information, such as a name or email address, before being able to post messages. Unlike most web forums, 4chan does not have any kind of registration system.[...] As anonymous posting causes posts to be attributed to "Anonymous," a running gag on 4chan is the idea that Anonymous is in fact a single person or the true name of the posters.

Anonymous is probably the people who oppose it in all its forms. We know that it is dangerous to make ourselves known because then we become fair game for harassment and other forms of noisy invasions of our privacy. It's easier to strike from the shadows without making yourself known. Like a covert agent during the Cold War.

Scientology acts like America in Iraq; everyone knows its there and it's making noise.

The anonymous is the covert agent who slips poison into your drink without you seeing.

How can you fight that which you cannot see or hear? :D
That's nice and all but "we" have felt like that for a while and have yet to go out and slip anything into Scientology's drink, don't we?

Just because someone says "There are people who don't like Scientology" doesn't make "us" rebels.

Umm.. is that you snipping the details because you can't bearsed to give them and would like to tell me to just go and watch the fucking thing myself later, or is it realy nothing more than an "OMG we're gonna destroy u lol" thing without any, you know, plan? Substance?
Yeah, the latter, really.

The only thing he says that's more detailed is something about hacking, and that's really the only thing that makes sense to me, too.

Because that I can see - a mass of people, planning something on message boards, staying anonymous, and figuring out some computer hackerish ways to damage Scientology.

Edit: Actually, it says they'll do what they can to "expel [Scientology] from the internet". I translated that into hacking, it seems.

Oh, he also says something about "merging their pulse with Scientology", which would sound like infiltrating Scientology...

So, what's up with this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZWoGX1cb8

Pretty much anyone on here knows more about Anonymous and /b/ and whatnot than I do, so hopefully someone has some further information about this?
There isn't much more information to acquire. Basically, after the whole Scientology YouTube episode, some lurker decided they'd crossed the line by bringing their debate online. Thus "Project Chanology" did begin, and is still ongoing.

Interested readers may Google the details with the term "Project Chanology", but due to the nature of /b/tard hanging spots, they do so at their own risk.

That's nice and all but "we" have felt like that for a while and have yet to go out and slip anything into Scientology's drink, don't we?

Just because someone says "There are people who don't like Scientology" doesn't make "us" rebels.

I was trying to think of an analogy for anonymous, and yes I know we still need to put a drug in that drink. :p Would polonium be good? Let's see what the Russians have to say!

I think "Anonymous" here would refer specifically to posters from a board known as /i/, which apparently co-ordinates organised griefing and occasional hacking of websites the posters dislike. Despite being hosted on essentially the same type of board and on, if not the same, at least a highly similar server, many claim that it is to /b/ (the most popular and well-known of imageboards on the *chan sites) approximately as II is to NS General.

Anyway, I don't see this going anywhere. The CoS will be mildly outraged for a few days. Anonymous will exhibit a collective sense of victory even if it accomplishes very little or nothing. Everyone will forget about it within a month or two when Anonymous decides to go after its next target and the CoS suffers a new celebrity conversion.

Oh, and also http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Hackers_attack_Church_of_Scientology_website.

That's nice and all but "we" have felt like that for a while and have yet to go out and slip anything into Scientology's drink, don't we?

Just because someone says "There are people who don't like Scientology" doesn't make "us" rebels.

I was trying to think of an analogy for anonymous, and yes I know we still need to put a drug in that drink. :p Would polonium be good? Let's see what the Russians have to say!

There isn't much more information to acquire. Basically, after the whole Scientology YouTube episode, some lurker decided they'd crossed the line by bringing their debate online. Thus "Project Chanology" did begin, and is still ongoing.

Interested readers may Google the details with the term "Project Chanology", but due to the nature of /b/tard hanging spots, they do so at their own risk.

Why don't you just tell us here?

oh noes itz teh intrawobs haet macheeen

btw i herd sum thiings....

Why don't you just tell us here?
I'm no Anon, but the nature of Anonymous is that it relies on individual action and initiative. Anything could happen. As far as what has happened so far, basically they DDOSed tens of Scientology related websites, swarmed their offices with prank calls and subscribed junk mail and seem intent on continuing. That's as much as I know because it's as much as anyone knows. There could be far more going on in terms of legal threats, public demonstrations etc. but it's not being made public, whatever's happening.

I think "Anonymous" here would refer specifically to posters from a board known as /i/, which apparently co-ordinates organised griefing and occasional hacking of websites the posters dislike. Despite being hosted on essentially the same type of board and on, if not the same, at least a highly similar server, many claim that it is to /b/ (the most popular and well-known of imageboards on the *chan sites) approximately as II is to NS General.

Anyway, I don't see this going anywhere. The CoS will be mildly outraged for a few days. Anonymous will exhibit a collective sense of victory even if it accomplishes very little or nothing. Everyone will forget about it within a month or two when Anonymous decides to go after its next target and the CoS suffers a new celebrity conversion.

Oh, and also http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Hackers_attack_Church_of_Scientology_website.
Ah, okay. I read the link; hadn't heard anything about it before. Thanks!
And too bad that you're most probably entirely correct...

I'm no Anon, but the nature of Anonymous is that it relies on individual action and initiative. Anything could happen. As far as what has happened so far, basically they DDOSed tens of Scientology related websites, swarmed their offices with prank calls and subscribed junk mail and seem intent on continuing. That's as much as I know because it's as much as anyone knows. There could be far more going on in terms of legal threats, public demonstrations etc. but it's not being made public, whatever's happening.
*sees*

According to this link (http://www.partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology), which is basically the complete overview of that Project Chanology you mentioned, they're doing what you just said plus things like "real life raids" and publishing "secret Scientology documents".

Also, that site had the text of the video, so I'll put it in the OP for poor souls like SoWiB.

I wont look at the linked video because i know its really a tricky doublecrossing Scientology plot to get me to watch a video with implanted subliminal messages that will somehow make me believe in 747 shaped spaceships and volcano spirits. Caution: Scientology makes you feel that your the only one that can help when you come apon an automobile accident so only watch video in small doses and dont go swimming until at least an hour after.

Well, if nothing else this will be a whole lotta fun to watch. Once they've gotten there lulz out of dicking with Scientology, perhaps they should go after the Catholic Church or something.

They've been somewhat successful. They have brought many of their major sites down on numerous occasions, and some of the main ones are down now. They have also done shit loads of prank calls, and got media coverage from the likes of Budapest times and wired.com. They've hacked into the site and leaked secret documents onto digg as well. The Scientologists are starting to get angry, so that's another achievement in itself.

The Scientologists are starting to get angry, so that's another achievement in itself.It doesn't take much to piss off Scientology, so that's not really an achievement at all...

Due to the borked nature of the scientology websites, I can't prove this. But apparently scientology put $5000 on the head of Anonymous, dead or alive.


This cracks me up.



I love Anonymous at the moment.

Due to the borked nature of the scientology websites, I can't prove this. But apparently scientology put $5000 on the head of Anonymous, dead or alive.


This cracks me up.



I love Anonymous at the moment.
I think that came from a Wired article, which according to this site (http://blog.riight.com/index.php?%2Farchives%2F25-Yet-Another-Scientology-vs.-Anonymous-Update.html) isn't true.

I don't know, this might be trading problems. If they are in any way measurably successful you now have an overly empowered group of internet assholes. It almost becomes a six of one kind of thing. For whatever else Scientology does, I don't have to worry about them fucking with my shit on-line for the 'lulz'...

I think that came from a Wired article, which according to this site (http://blog.riight.com/index.php?%2Farchives%2F25-Yet-Another-Scientology-vs.-Anonymous-Update.html) isn't true.

I don't know, this might be trading problems. If they are in any way measurably successful you now have an overly empowered group of internet assholes. It almost becomes a six of one kind of thing. For whatever else Scientology does, I don't have to worry about them fucking with my shit on-line for the 'lulz'...
To me, right now. Anonymous is the lesser of two evils. Besides, most of them are sad teenage assholes who lack lives. Give them something to do outside and they'll abandon the internet within a second.

/b/, and by extension 4chan, is for losers who have no friends. Anonymous is a manifestation of whiny teenage angst/boredom.

/b/, and by extension 4chan, is for losers who have no friends. Anonymous is a manifestation of whiny teenage angst/boredom.

No shit, but most of the raiders aren't coming from 4chan.

/b/, and by extension 4chan, is for losers who have no friends. Anonymous is a manifestation of whiny teenage angst/boredom.

They do have cool robot voices though.

*shrug*

Another day in the life of two groups who can't get enough of themselves.

We are everyone and we are no one. We are Anonymous, we legion. We do not forgive, we do not forget. We are the face of chaos and the harbingers of judgement.

Because none of us are as cruel as all of us.

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It's true. You have been quoted. Resistance is futile! :P

We are everyone and we are no one. We are Anonymous, we legion. We do not forgive, we do not forget. We are the face of chaos and the harbingers of judgement.

Because none of us are as cruel as all of us.

How can you bring chaos and judgement?
You mean chaotic judgement?
And you're not everyone, that is not possible. Also a contradiction between "we are everyone and we are no one".
I bet they hate paying bank bills "do not forgive and do not forget", i think most humans forget as a coping strategy if they suffer unfortunate events, amongst other reasons, e.g. interference with new information, or old information interfering with new information etc...
Why do the interesting phrases never make any sense?

Hmm, the Hollywood-brain leech cult vs the retarded Borg.

Great pay-per-view event.

They've been somewhat successful. They have brought many of their major sites down on numerous occasions, and some of the main ones are down now. They have also done shit loads of prank calls, and got media coverage from the likes of Budapest times and wired.com. They've hacked into the site and leaked secret documents onto digg as well. The Scientologists are starting to get angry, so that's another achievement in itself.


Im actually rather impressed. Kuddos to them.



If they were really hardcore theyd assassinate Tom Cruise just for "lulz"

*shrug* Sounds fun. I like the music I get out of it. Anon on the news -> remix.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uVaQG67eqwA

sky news!

Internethatemachine Vs Tom Cruise

Anyone else personally hoping that Al-Qaeda is Anonymous? You know, the group out to destroy Scientology? You know, for no other reason than the fact that it would be hilarious! :D

I don't really understand this hatred of scientology. I don't see anything they do as more damaging to people than the things other religions do.

I don't really understand this hatred of scientology. I don't see anything they do as more damaging to people than the things other religions do.

On the surface, it seems like that. Perhaps you may care to check out Operation Clambake (http://www.xenu.net/). They've got a good database of information.

I hope Anon and the rest do a bit more than DoSing the Scientology website though, that could end up being a bit anticlimactic.

I don't really understand this hatred of scientology. I don't see anything they do as more damaging to people than the things other religions do.
Scientology isn't a religion, it's an advanced pyramid scheme. :p

I don't really understand this hatred of scientology. I don't see anything they do as more damaging to people than the things other religions do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversies

The problem is, Scientology is not a religion, it is a businesses which practices a religion. It calls itself a church, even a church =/= a religion. It's like calling Westbro Baptist church a religion, it isn't. When any other church/businesses do this sort of shit, it gets the same sort of public hatred.

My problem with scientology is their doctrine has nothing beneficial to offer society. All other religions have philosophies that taken on their own can be used by even people who are athiests and to help society as a whole.


Scientology has nothing like that.

Oi, those hackers?

Fun, that, I remember that they threatened to blow up a football stadium once, and also some story that they beat up some myspace user in RL and messed around with his page before hand to get the user into trouble with his friends.

Let's see how they fare against Scientology. I'm actually kinda hoping they do a number on them, I don't like scientology myself much.

lol hackers.

More like internet tough guys screwing around.

A loser threatened to blow up a stadium in a "dare match" to see who could create the biggest threat.

And lol, Anonymous beating up someone in real life, all they did was screw up his myspace in a raid.

Well, last I've heard, they've successfully knocked down several Scientology websites, broken into CoS computers and stolen tons of previously confidential documents that are now available in various places online. There are plans floating around for an IRL "raid" or protest at the Church of Scientology in London, and other instances of vandalism that may or may not be directly related to Anonymous.

I for one never thought I would ever say this, but I'm rooting for Anonymous on this one.

(And I was wondering how long until the 'war' got mentioned in NSG! :D )

Anonymous is a fascinating internet phenomena, if you think about it. An essentially anarchic, leaderless, utterly disorganized group of people successfully organizing and actually carrying out various plans. Even if you don't agree with a lot of their antics, you have to admit they are good at what they do.

AWESOME.

Where do you get one of those voice programs? I have one on an old Windows 95 and can't move it anywhere else.

Vetalia is a self proclaimed proud member of Anonymous, I wonder if he helped in any way...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversies

The problem is, Scientology is not a religion, it is a businesses which practices a religion. It calls itself a church, even a church =/= a religion. It's like calling Westbro Baptist church a religion, it isn't. When any other church/businesses do this sort of shit, it gets the same sort of public hatred.
Other young religions have faced opposition from the establishment. I have no reason to believe they didn't fight back.

Scientology sounds crazy to me, but all religions sound crazy to me. I'm tempted to become a scientologist just to annoy anonymous.

Other young religions have faced opposition from the establishment. I have no reason to believe they didn't fight back.

Scientology sounds crazy to me, but all religions sound crazy to me. I'm tempted to become a scientologist just to annoy anonymous.

Only one of those controversies could be linked to "fighting the establishment", but the link would be very tenuous.

Well, last I've heard, they've successfully knocked down several Scientology websites, broken into CoS computers and stolen tons of previously confidential documents that are now available in various places online. There are plans floating around for an IRL "raid" or protest at the Church of Scientology in London, and other instances of vandalism that may or may not be directly related to Anonymous.


I've seen some of those documents. The links were posted on digg and my husband downloaded them. That is some scary shit, and the lingo they use... it ain't even real! It's totally out there.

I've seen some of those documents. The links were posted on digg and my husband downloaded them. That is some scary shit, and the lingo they use... it ain't even real! It's totally out there.

Yeah, my sister looked through them, too. Batshit fucking insane is probably an understatement. And people pay to be ALLOWED to read/watch some of that crap. It like a bad sci-fi novel, only worse. (An appropriate comparison, given Hubbard's history.)

I hope Anonymous doesn't tire of their 'lulz' anytime soon and that they see their campaign all the way through.

I thought it was the most beautifully crafted idea i have ever heard for a long time, lots of kudos, we need more robot voices in government

Latest I've seen is that it's made TV news: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uVaQG67eqwA

Apparently the news clip is inaccurate on several counts though, and full of BS to improve ratings by inspiring fear and paranoia.

Personally the media doesnt show both sides of the story, how come they immediately side with scientology just because they are the victims. We are the victims of scientology, and these CIVILISED people are actually doing something about a very dangerous cult. Kudos to them, i wish i could join.

Just Google "Project Chanology" and I'm pretty sure you can find more info. Anon's plans aren't exactly super-secretly hidden or anything. Apparently just digging any one of the dozen or so articles on Digg is supposedly a help to the efforts.

Same problem with me, its only the general though. Thats why i keep talking on this one

Hey, I know this isn't really relevant to the thread, but can anyone else access NSG? I got to this thread by clicking on the link at the side of my nation, but I can't go to the forum main page.
Same problem here- I keep getting a database error when I try to load MSG. You should be able to get to the thread via your User CP as well.

*makes it relevant* Maybe the CoS is trying to stop spread of Anon's actions! OMGnoes!

EDIT: AND it's causing the thread to time-warp! Ye gads!

Same problem with me, its only the general though. Thats why i keep talking on this oneh

Hey, I know this isn't really relevant to the thread, but can anyone else access NSG? I got to this thread by clicking on the link at the side of my nation, but I can't go to the forum main page, or any other threads.

Personally, i wish i could go on general right now because i have filled seven of the last catagories being the last one to post, and i would really like to post and have replies, alas ill have to wait for other people to go on.

Same problem here- I keep getting a database error when I try to load MSG. You should be able to get to the thread via your User CP as well.

*makes it relevant* Maybe the CoS is trying to stop spread of Anon's actions! OMGnoes!

EDIT: AND it's causing the thread to time-warp! Ye gads!

Nope, still can't get it. I guess Tom Cruise's thetan got into the system.

Arghhhhhhh, this is going to be a very boring night evidently if this keeps up, if your bored go to the very top on the forum page and write more on my story

Just Google "Project Chanology" and I'm pretty sure you can find more info. Anon's plans aren't exactly super-secretly hidden or anything. Apparently just digging any one of the dozen or so articles on Digg is supposedly a help to the efforts.

Actually, it appears to be already linked in this thread if one looks back on I believe page 2. It not, here's the link: http://www.partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology

It also seems that as of 10:30pm EST they're launching a third attack wave. This is according to the above link, which does appear earlier in the thread. Looks like someone is brave, even if mildly stupid.

EDIT - I find it very perplexing that I can edit and post in this thread while NSG is down. I can also access the other forums at this time. Anyone care to start wild fire rumours with me? :D

Anybody else not able to access General?

There is a notice about that in the Technical forum. Don't worry, it's not your computer being possessed. :)

Want some popcorn while we wait? Misery loves company.
Sure :)

Caramel corn? My fav!!

Thanks!!

And a timewarp to boot....yikes!!

Anybody else not able to access General?

This is a widespread problem I reported in Technical. Hopefully they can fix it

Anybody else not able to access General?

There is a notice about that in the Technical forum. Don't worry, it's not your computer being possessed. :)

Want some popcorn while we wait? Misery loves company.

It really doesn't make any sense, but I suppose we'll find out what happened to the servers soon enough.

Can't have popcorn without soda.
*goes to get the soda*

There is a notice about that in the Technical forum. Don't worry, it's not your computer being possessed. :)

Want some popcorn while we wait? Misery loves company.

And I got the soda. *Brings out the soda cooler and some chairs*

Now we wait while watching the Anonymous [ /b/ or /i/ ? ] versus Scientology [ self-explanatory ] 'war' and any news updates on it and the General issue

If you have Subscribed Threads (see the Quick Links menu), you can go to a specific thread, then navigate around General using the "Previous Thread/Next Thread" links at the bottom of the thread.

EDIT: Regrettably, this doesn't work for me using the links at the bottom of this thread. "Next Thread" says that there are no newer threads, and "Previous Thread" gives me an error message.

EDIT 2: Fris says in Tech that this is because the thread before this one is corrupt. If you don't have any subscribed threads, try going to the Moderation forum and entering via any of the General threads linked to there.

And I got the soda. *Brings out the soda cooler and some chairs*

Now we wait while watching the Anonymous [ /b/ or /i/ ? ] versus Scientology [ self-explanatory ] 'war' and any news updates on it and the General issue

http://www.partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology'


This is a great place to start. This has the most recent information I take it.

Anyway, I'm going to bed. Someone else will have to research answers and whine because NSG is not working.

Yeah, my sister looked through them, too. Batshit fucking insane is probably an understatement. And people pay to be ALLOWED to read/watch some of that crap. It like a bad sci-fi novel, only worse. (An appropriate comparison, given Hubbard's history.)

I hope Anonymous doesn't tire of their 'lulz' anytime soon and that they see their campaign all the way through.

Think of it this way. Most people when doing something like this for 'lulz' also do it for the reaction, i.e. trolling. Scientology isn't really conducive towards ignoring trolls, much less valid criticism. I think the COS will be providing lots of fuel for the fire for ages to come. Although that might be wishful thinking.

Remember to really goof the floof when talking about Xenu. I want lazors on full charge.

Vetalia is a self proclaimed proud member of Anonymous, I wonder if he helped in any way...

Let's just say there's a Church of Scientology not too far down the street from my dorm.

Amazing, simply amazing.

EDIT: Hmm, does posting in this thread bork NSG?

Anonymous [ /b/ or /i/ ? ]
Mostly /i/, as I understand it, but /b/tards are there as cannon fodder/dumb 'muscle'.
Let's just say there's a Church of Scientology not too far down the street from my dorm.

In b4 rules 1 and 2.

EDIT: Hmm, does posting in this thread bork NSG?Prolly not. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548188)

Amazing, simply amazing.

EDIT: Hmm, does posting in this thread bork NSG?

There is a corrupted thread on NSG, which is borking it. Our mods have called in a crack team of jolt mods to unbork our beloved general. Relevant thread am here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548188)

Right - but it was back up earlier and then I posted in this thread and it went down again - probably the same coincidence as when I hit that red button and Chernobyl went down.

Right - but it was back up earlier and then I posted in this thread and it went down again - probably the same coincidence as when I hate that red button and Chernobyl went down.

Huh. Perhaps we should try bumping other threads so we bury this one back on page 2 or something.

Huh. Perhaps we should try bumping other threads so we bury this one back on page 2 or something.

...or just idly chat while the Mods fix it up, I mean, what are we paying them for?

So anyway, they think the entire stock market turmoil was the result of one kid in France having to unwind his positions - USD7.8 billion's worth.

Technology and the ability to exploit it eh?

...or just idly chat while the Mods fix it up, I mean, what are we paying them for?
Well I used to pay TG to dance for me before he retired.

So anyway, they think the entire stock market turmoil was the result of one kid in France having to unwind his positions - USD7.8 billion's worth.

Technology and the ability to exploit it eh?

Didn't the stock market thing happen before that? *doesn't economics*

Well I used to pay TG to dance for me before he retired.

Ardchoille's taken over that role these days

Didn't the stock market thing happen before that? *doesn't economics*

Societe Generale discovered it on the weekend, Saturday I think, so as soon as the markets opened Monday the rumours were around the world and Asia, which opened first, dropped record numbers. Europe went next but it was, I don't know, America Day in the USA so they waited.

It was dropping before but not in the way it did Monday.

Federer just lost in 3 sets to Djoblahblahvic just now as well.

Ardchoille's taken over that role these days



Societe Generale discovered it on the weekend, Saturday I think, so as soon as the markets opened Monday the rumours were around the world and Asia, which opened first, dropped record numbers. Europe went next but it was, I don't know, America Day in the USA so they waited.

It was dropping before but not in the way it did Monday.

Federer just lost in 3 sets to Djoblahblahvic just now as well.

I really hope Tsonga kicks his ass.

And straight sets? What happened to R-Fed?

...or just idly chat while the Mods fix it up, I mean, what are we paying them for?Funny you mention them fixing this and us paying them, particularly since neither will ever happen.

Funny you mention them fixing this and us paying them, particularly since neither will ever happen.

This is accurate on both counts. Our mods have knocked the ball into the jolt mods' court, so if this doesn't get fixed quickly we can join the mods and bitch about other mods.

Latest I've seen is that it's made TV news: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uVaQG67eqwA

Apparently the news clip is inaccurate on several counts though, and full of BS to improve ratings by inspiring fear and paranoia.

Sweet, remix time!

P.S. Speaking of Youtube comments, gogo inspector hackers get them liars and theives no wait two rocks flying wait wait boom... hi i am the earth with growing fungus called people dumb ass tom cruise

Latest I've seen is that it's made TV news: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uVaQG67eqwA

Apparently the news clip is inaccurate on several counts though, and full of BS to improve ratings by inspiring fear and paranoia.

Hey, I already posted this on the page before! But everyone ignored me.... :(

They've been on NBC news as well though now.

Our mods have called in a crack team of jolt mods to unbork our beloved general.yes !!!!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/80049188_2db3119a2e.jpg

:D

Only one of those controversies could be linked to "fighting the establishment", but the link would be very tenuous.
Let me put this another way.

I expect this behaviour from all religions, because I view all religions as dangerous cults. I don't dislike scientology any more simply because I'm aware of their behaviour more than I am the early behaviour of any number of other now established religions.

Let me put this another way.

I expect this behaviour from all religions, because I view all religions as dangerous cults. I don't dislike scientology any more simply because I'm aware of their behaviour more than I am the early behaviour of any number of other now established religions.

Sure, but it's not like any major religious organisation that also does this kind of stuff doesn't get any attention and hatred. As I said, I'm pretty sure the majority of people hate the Westbro Baptist Church, and we are practically at war with Al Qaeda, why doesn't the Scientology business deserve the same hatred?

Nothing to up the post count of your thread like it being the only entrance to NSG during the joltpocalypse. :p

*takes notes*

Hello, I've been watching these guys (Anonymous) pretty closely lately. (Following them around in all their threads and stuff.

It's creepy how serious some of these people are taking it.

There have already been 2 real life actions at the New York Scientology HQ, and new recurits keep showing up. Even their arch enemy hackers have joined them.

Anyone who watched that unfunnytruth ytmnd would know why people feel so strongly about this.

These guys don't care that this war could last for months or even years long. It's no longer about 'lulz' as they say. It's liberation.
(Ironic coming from them)

Nothing to up the post count of your thread like it being the only entrance to NSG during the joltpocalypse. :p

*takes notes*

You don't suppose Anonymous hit Jolt, just to draw NSGer's to this thread? (For me, the only thread I could easily get into was "Heath Ledger is Dead", which was closed off and now appears to be deleted).

You don't suppose Anonymous hit Jolt, just to draw NSGer's to this thread? (For me, the only thread I could easily get into was "Heath Ledger is Dead", which was closed off and now appears to be deleted).

Nah. If Anon didn't like us they'd have DDoS'd jolt. And if they did like us they'd post pics of goatse and what not.

Nah. If Anon didn't like us they'd have DDoS'd jolt. And if they did like us they'd post pics of goatse and what not.
If they were hitting Jolt I think you would have known.
I'm suprised that they havn't come here asking for help though.

Let me put this another way.

I expect this behaviour from all religions, because I view all religions as dangerous cults. I don't dislike scientology any more simply because I'm aware of their behaviour more than I am the early behaviour of any number of other now established religions.
I'm sure I've made this point before, but there is a considerable difference between being a cult that charges its victims consultation fees, chases down and silences anyone that publicly criticises them at all and blames the world's ills on a material imbalance that can only be commercially rectified through their unique products and services and a cult that invites you in for tea, biscuits and a chat, maybe gets a bit stroppy if you choose to openly condemn the foundation of their very being and teaches that "being really sorry" is a pretty good starting point for overcoming the problems we create.

Yes, the notion of a religious organisation is an inherently flawed one, but the fact that it is a religion is never core to other religious bodies. Scientology is entirely identified by the purpose of "being a Religion", with all of the danger that implies and none of the self-restraint that the mystics in other sects would provide.

I don't really understand this hatred of scientology. I don't see anything they do as more damaging to people than the things other religions do./b/ loves to post copyrighted material. Scientology loves to sue people who make their copyrighted materials available to the public. You can see how those two groups would clash.

These guys don't care that this war could last for months or even years long. It's no longer about 'lulz' as they say. It's liberation.
(Ironic coming from them)

^^trolled.

Let's just say there's a Church of Scientology not too far down the street from my dorm.I think I have got to drive a couple towns over to get to one.

^^trolled.
Trolled (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)?

I think I have got to drive a couple towns over to get to one.
They hand out cards downtown. But they're usually outnumbered by Raelians.

Trolled (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)?

Ouch. rolled hard, nicely done. :p

They hand out cards downtown. But they're usually outnumbered by Raelians.

No one religious tends bothers us here. You never know who's got a shootin' iron on them here in T.O.

This is all great. Funny, but not likely to do anything beyond slowing down some scientologist sites for a couple of hours at a stretch.

On a related note, it's really irritating when people talk about being /b/tards. way to be 'Anonymous'.

Hello, leaders of Scientology. We are Anonymous.

Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of misinformation, your suppression of dissent, your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye. With the leakage of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, the extent of your malign influence over those who have come to trust you as leaders has been made clear to us. Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed. For the good of your followers, for the good of mankind and re everywhere. You will find no recourse in attack, because for each of us that falls, ten more will take his/her place.

We are cognizant of the many who may decry our methods as parallel to those of the Church of Scientology. Those who espouse the obvious truth that your organization will use the actions of Anonymous as an example of the persecution of which you have for so long warned your followers. This is acceptable to Anonymous. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs.

Good, get rid of the scientologists. I find them to be an utterly disgusting cult.

Anon vs. CoS? My god, we win no matter what!

This is gonna get ugly. Scientology doesnt like it when people oppose them.

What're they going to do? Call a horde of Thetans from the shadows to destroy the souls of Anonymous? Or will they set Xemu on them?

No one religious tends bothers us here. You never know who's got a shootin' iron on them here in T.O.
Shootin' irons in Toronto? Now I know you're kidding.

On a related note, it's really irritating when people talk about being /b/tards. way to be 'Anonymous'.

They only ever bother to hide their identity on raids(usually claiming to be from ebaumsworld or somethingawful). And even then if it goes well they'll brag about it afterwards. Essentially, most /b/tards are anonymous in name only.

They only ever bother to hide their identity on raids(usually claiming to be from ebaumsworld or somethingawful). And even then if it goes well they'll brag about it afterwards. Essentially, most /b/tards are anonymous in name only.

There's plenty of 'em who don't spend their time buzzing around the internet making LOL EPIC WIN ^___^ DASU posts containing images stolen by ICHC.com. What you're talking about is the intake from the fucking insane traffic spikes, people who think that it's something to brag about because it's KEWL! ^_^

There's plenty of 'em who don't spend their time buzzing around the internet making LOL EPIC WIN ^___^ DASU posts containing images stolen by ICHC.com. What you're talking about is the intake from the fucking insane traffic spikes, people who think that it's something to brag about because it's KEWL! ^_^

I'm not sure what you're on about, but hardly any /b/tards give a shit about rules concerning their anonymity out side of raids. Those who do are just baaaaawing losers who treat the Internet as 'serious business'. Concerning the Scientology raids, I think what you said was a bit of an understatement. They have actually shut down the sites on numerous occasions, as well as leaked some secret documents (which apparently are really fucked up).

There's plenty of 'em who don't spend their time buzzing around the internet making LOL EPIC WIN ^___^ DASU posts containing images stolen by ICHC.com. What you're talking about is the intake from the fucking insane traffic spikes, people who think that it's something to brag about because it's KEWL! ^_^

Yeah, but they're not loud and annoying enough to be noticeable. As often as not they're oldfags who complain about newfags and cancer and pine for the days when 4chan was a relatively unknown site.

The documents aren't anything new, the only problem has been distribution.

But there's potential to get some even more juicier stuff out.

I'm not sure what you're on about, but hardly any /b/tards give a shit about rules concerning their anonymity out side of raids. Those who do are just baaaaawing losers who treat the Internet as 'serious business'. Concerning the Scientology raids, I think what you said was a bit of an understatement. They have actually shut down the sites on numerous occasions, as well as leaked some secret documents (which apparently are really fucked up).

The documents aren't anything new, the only problem has been distribution.

Go Anon! :)

well they have a list of all the businesses in the UK here (http://www.scientology.org.uk/locator/index.htm) (oddly this site is still working so massive hint)

I myself am just going to put up one or two flyer's in my area and leave it at that unless opportunity arises

Amazingly, the dianetics hotline is still accepting calls from IP-Relay. Or at least they were before I called them. :)

Look at the comments! "I hope you win" "we hope you win" "I am with you" "Rad" People like this I guess.

i don't usually like the actions carried out under the Anonymous banner (at least not the ones i've heard of), but applaud this. fuck 'em.

i don't usually like the actions carried out under the Anonymous banner (at least not the ones i've heard of), but applaud this. fuck 'em.

Likewise. For once Anon is doing something worthwhile!

Amazingly, the dianetics hotline is still accepting calls from IP-Relay. Or at least they were before I called them. :)

I LOVE that site...haven't used it in awhile though.

I LOVE that site...haven't used it in awhile though.

Yeah, it's terrific fun. That was the one time I've even been able to get through to the hotline since last night, which means Anonymous is really keeping them busy.

Yeah, it's terrific fun. That was the one time I've even been able to get through to the hotline since last night, which means Anonymous is really keeping them busy.

The best part is that you have absolute possession of the operator's voice. I made them say some...well stuff they probably want to stab themselves for.

This is going to be fun.

This ought to be entertaining. A secretive cult vs. a group known as "Anonymous" - for all we know, a full scale war is being waged that us outsiders do not know.

They hand out cards downtown. But they're usually outnumbered by Raelians.Ours are overshadowed by people protesting the Governor General.

What're they going to do? Call a horde of Thetans from the shadows to destroy the souls of Anonymous? Or will they set Xemu on them?

$cientology usually relies on dumpster diving other forms of snooping into an SP's life to find blackmail material and/or sue them into bankruptcy as they did with the Cult Awareness Network.

Problem is, how can they do that to a countless, faceless horde known as Anonymous? Nobody rich and famous that can be positively identified amongst the ranks, and with how the internet is, there's probably too many of them out there for $cientology to use their usual methods upon.

Oh sure they could try to sue the owners of the Chan sites and have them shut down or absorbed like the CAN. But then that'll just mean Anonymous will go to DEFCON 1.

This ought to be entertaining. A secretive cult vs. a group known as "Anonymous" - for all we know, a full scale war is being waged that us outsiders do not know.

Well, the casualty lists should be short.

Scientology is a threat that must be brought down. I have researched them. I have seen almost all the threads concerining them since I came here and looked at all the links. If you thought the Abrahamic three (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) were crazy, Scientology will make your head explode.

Basically, it was started by a failure of a science-fiction writer. This explains why their holy book, whatever it is called, seems like a horrible sci-fi book. They are very defensive. Piss them off and you'll have to fight a team of lawyers larger and more powerful than any single military force. Join, then leave them and they will do everything they can to ruin your life. They'll lie about you. They'll drive your friends and family against you. They will ruin your chances of working outside a greasy fast-food resturant kitchen. They are cruel. They are mean. They must be stopped. Their only goal is to extract money from lonely, vulnerable people. They are a cult without the Jonestown flavor-ade.

The best part is that you have absolute possession of the operator's voice. I made them say some...well stuff they probably want to stab themselves for.

I've done that in the past, pranking my friends. For the Scientologists, I just rickrolled them until they interrupted me, then asked to be connected to Laura Prepon, Kirstie Alley and Erika Christiansen (the last of whom I was shocked to learn is a Scientologist -- the other two I already knew about). It's amazing what they'll put up with before hanging up on you. It's also pretty funny to imagine some IP-Relay operator blandly reciting the lyrics to "Never Gonna Give You Up." :D

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Where Will You Be?

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Where Will You Be?
February 10th? That's 2 weeks away still, so they definitely seem to think they can sustain momentum that long. Because face it, in internet terms, 2 weeks is an eternity.

Because face it, in internet terms, 2 weeks is an eternity.

well, maybe not an eternity. but 2 weeks is easily at least 100 years.

Anonymous has transcended the commonly accepted theories of leaderless resistance and conflict and has now adopted more of a swarm behavior. Think about it: There are no leaders. There are no individuals. If $cientology manages to sue one or even one hundred of their ISP's into shutting down their sites, one thousand more sites will pop up overnight. Silencing one /b/tard is as irrelevant to Project Chanology as squashing one ant in a hive. Thousands will run right over his body without notice or hesitation. Anonymous has no head to cut off and no body to kill. Anonymous never sleeps. Anonymous never even pauses. Thousands, tens of thousands... maybe even hundreds of thousands of people all over the world working towards the exact same goal totally without leadership or even individuality.

$cientology is basically fucked.

Anonymous is a glorious bastard.

This is one of the strangest human behaviors, when you think about it. Yeah, we're social creatures, but we're still individuals. Individual behaviors define us. These people are behaving more like insects. They even trump the tactic of leaderless conflict, which still relies on small cells of individuals working in concert to achieve tactical goals. Anonymous has managed to go one step beyond that and has begun behaving more like a hive than anything else. It's all very beautiful, really. No leaders, no defined groups... just a mass operating in concert towards a singular goal. I wouldn't even know where to begin to fight Anonymous. Attacking them as individuals would be virtually impossible due to their sheer numbers. Attacking their sites would be pointless as they can simply create new ones or shift into new media. Even blanket bans involving entire countries would be pointless because, so far as I can tell, there are /b/tards on every continent except Antarctica.

$cientology has finally met an opponent that absolutely cannot be deterred by intimidation. In fact, such intimidation efforts would immeasurably worsen the problem. I mean, consider that this whole thing was kicked off when the cult tried to ban a video of Tom Cruise from circulating on the internet. Now imagine what would happen if $cientology started going after /b/tards. The reaction would make a few clogged websites look like a day at the park. Every popular movement in human history can be tracked back to a small group of individuals who exploited their own charisma and the emotional state of the body politic to motivate groups of people. This 'movement' involves no leaders, no laws and no external discipline. It is a demonstration of perfect cooperation without ego towards a singular goal. They really are human ants.

The only defense is do nothing until they bore. I wonder if Co$ has the patience.
edit: It seems they do not, see http://www.partyvan.info/ - that's the site where Project Chanology was hosted.
That, or whoever owned the domain failed to pay for the suddenly indreased bandwidth use.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3094137170809569203

Another leaked video that reveals a new frightening truth: $cientologists are terrible actors and also batshit insane.

swarm behavior

That's the word I was looking for! Absolutely true. That's why they can't be defeated and will prevail.

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It really is fascinating. I've seen Anonymous referred to as "the collective will of the Internet", and at times it seems almost accurate. It's the ultimate example of the "Internet Fuckwad Theory"- normal guy + audience + anonymity = fuckwad. Except this time they're fuckwads doing a good thing. Scientology is utterly defenseless against this sort of attack- they can stop the DDoS attacks eventually, I'm sure. But they have no real target to strike back against, and Anonymous is attacking their main defense- their secrecy. There are no codewords, no identifications- and all plans and communication are absurdly available to anyone with a search engine and maybe an IRC client. They have no way to know if Joe Nobody that walks in the door is someone honestly interested in Scientology, or if it's someone who's part of Anonymous up to no good. The incessant rickrolling and blackfaxing has paralyzed CoS's ability to communicate effectively... it's really something to behold.

And CoS isn't smart enough to stop providing the "lulz"- the more they try and shut Anon down, the more it encourages this Internet hydra to keep antagonizing them.

You know, I hope somebody is studying this- there's bound to be fodder for all sorts of doctorate thesis papers in anthropology, sociology, political science, psychology, and so on.

And CoS isn't smart enough to stop providing the "lulz"- the more they try and shut Anon down, the more it encourages this Internet hydra to keep antagonizing them.

Considering that CoS main doctrines include active suppression of their critics, something which they do as fervently as any group of fanatics, them stopping in providing the "lulz" is like Stalin and Bill Gates holding hands and singing kumbaya around a campfire.

And CoS isn't smart enough to stop providing the "lulz"- the more they try and shut Anon down, the more it encourages this Internet hydra to keep antagonizing them.

You know, I hope somebody is studying this- there's bound to be fodder for all sorts of doctorate thesis papers in anthropology, sociology, political science, psychology, and so on.

Chop off one head, three more grow in its place.

Not your personal army.

I must say, the more I understand Anonymous, the more formidable it seems. How do you defeat an enemy that must be defeated all at once? Especially when it's a decent-sized group? Leave one member undefeated and it will regrow, like a colony of bacteria.

How can Scientology defeat an enemy it can't find when all of said enemy has to be defeated individually and all of said enemy works together efficiently and effectively? Paramid scheme, meet unseen, but not unfelt, swarm.

Not your personal army.

Co$'s lawyers threatened a Chan with a C&D order. I think it's become a matter of home defense now.

Co$'s lawyers threatened a Chan with a C&D order. I think it's become a matter of home defense now.

I mean, how many people actually care enough to participate in a given Chan action?

Co$'s lawyers threatened a Chan with a C&D order. I think it's become a matter of home defense now.

Sauce?

We're going to really goof the floof (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7BfQVzQzo5I&feature=user) if Scientology tries to declare war on the internet.

They already failed miserably once, back in 1994 (around the same time that all that OT3 and Xenu stuff came out), and if they try it now it's just going to come down even harder because the internet is so much bigger than it was back in the days of the glorious struggle on alt.religion.scientology when only Usenet stood against them.

Sauce?

http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=51134054

Church of Scientology
Gold Base
Hemet, California, USA

To: www.4chan.org, members, adherents, and administrators,

It has come to the attention of the Church Of Scientology, Inc. (hereto referred as ”COS”) knowledge of planned criminal enterprises, criminal attacks, and criminal threats originating from, but not limited to, the website: www.4chan.org. Let it be known that the COS takes these attacks to be applicable violations of numerous United States Hate Crime legislations pursuant specifically to the Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2005, and AMDT.2662 of the US House of Representatives. The COS takes seriously the nature of the threats to do both 1) physical harm to COS infrastructure and 2) physical harm to COS members as evidenced in numerous comments upon the www.4chan.org website. Therefore this matter has been forwarded to the Federal and Local authorities for further assistance. Furthermore, the COS will pursue criminal and civil prosecution against any members, adherents, or administrators of www.4chan.org should these attacks not cease immediately.

E.Ableson / C. Thierry

I'm going to have to side with Anon on this one. I hate Scientology, I try to be tolerate of all religious belief, but I don't consider Scientology a religion, it's a scam that steal, lies and kill. I wish Anon the best in their attacks against Scientology.

Also, I would wet my pants if they actually claim that they are from Xenu's Army!

I must say, the more I understand Anonymous, the more formidable it seems. How do you defeat an enemy that must be defeated all at once?In case of personal attack, delete fucking everything. Disappear from the net until they've found another pet project. Fighting back is utterly futile. Case in point: It took Anon less than 24 hours to strike back at the 'hackers' that took down their original site and find the name, address and phone number of those responsible and throwing them out on the internet for anybody who feels like taking more extensive revenge.

In case of personal attack, delete fucking everything. Disappear from the net until they've found another pet project. Fighting back is utterly futile. Case in point: It took Anon less than 24 hours to strike back at the 'hackers' that took down their original site and find the name, address and phone number of those responsible and throwing them out on the internet for anybody who feels like taking more extensive revenge.

From the rally posters i've seen, I think that they're planning to take the fight offline as well. And it looked like a global scale flash mob.

physical harm to CoS infrastructure and members? don't get how you do it over the 'net...

physical harm to CoS infrastructure and members? don't get how you do it over the 'net...

You program their elevators to shoot out through the roof, or make their vending machines fire bottles of water with lethal force, or other mechanically implausible things.

This saga continues to make my day.

You program their elevators to shoot out through the roof, or make their vending machines fire bottles of water with lethal force, or other mechanically implausible things.

Or hack the force field imprisoning Xenu and release him upon the world. :eek:

You program their elevators to shoot out through the roof, or make their vending machines fire bottles of water with lethal force, or other mechanically implausible things.

Well, if one is sufficiently savvy enough, an alteration to the BIOS voltage settings, as well as disabling temperature lockouts (some motherboards automatically shut down if too hot to preserve components) could theoretically allow a far greater wattage intake than is safe for computer components, resulting in overheating issues, and damage to components, possibly a fire, although it's more likely the PSU will blow out first.

You know, here's the thing.

On one hand, Scientology is extremely fucked-up (Not moreso, though, than Catholicism, in fact I am on board with some of its teachings).


On the other hand, 4chan is a bunch of retards [as Reploid has explained previously]. I hope in the depth of my heart that somehow their 'raids' lead them to trespass in the house of a crazy Texas militiaman one day, and he gets pissed and shoots himself a couple of B-tards.

Seems to me an Alien/Predator battle.

Whom do you side with? The horde of malevolent morons or the swarm of malevolent religious weirdos?

The Borg, or the Zerg?

This saga continues to make my day.



Or hack the force field imprisoning Xenu and release him upon the world. :eek:

I so want to free Xenu...he's written up as a tyrannical cock, but if Scientology hates/fears him, I'll sign up under his banner.

If he gives health benefits.

Well, if one is sufficiently savvy enough, an alteration to the BIOS voltage settings, as well as disabling temperature lockouts (some motherboards automatically shut down if too hot to preserve components) could theoretically allow a far greater wattage intake than is safe for computer components, resulting in overheating issues, and damage to components, possibly a fire, although it's more likely the PSU will blow out first.

This reminds me of the old Cyberpunk game from R Talsorian, where you could brainburn other hackers, fry their brains through their interfaces and kill 'em.

You know, here's the thing.

On one hand, Scientology is extremely fucked-up (Not moreso, though, than Catholicism, in fact I am on board with some of its teachings).


On the other hand, 4chan is a bunch of retards [as Reploid has explained previously]. I hope in the depth of my heart that somehow their 'raids' lead them to trespass in the house of a crazy Texas militiaman one day, and he gets pissed and shoots himself a couple of B-tards.

Seems to me an Alien/Predator battle.

Whom do you side with? The horde of malevolent morons or the swarm of malevolent religious weirdos?

The Borg, or the Zerg?

Grrr. Timewarp.

It is times like this I am proud to be Anonymous. The neverending gauntlet, a veritable swarm that does not die until you stop attacking...

Truly, the more you hate it the stronger it gets.

This reminds me of the old Cyberpunk game from R Talsorian, where you could brainburn other hackers, fry their brains through their interfaces and kill 'em.

Well yes, you could do that in the real world too, providing someone was silly enough to hook up their brains directly to a live current data interface and used software based voltage regulators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOkOEltl678

Whom do you side with? The horde of malevolent morons or the swarm of malevolent religious weirdos?
You don't side with anyone. You get out of the freakin' way before you get pwned/Silenced. Maybe you write a report on the battle from the front lines and sell the story to the nationals.

I must say, the more I understand Anonymous, the more formidable it seems. How do you defeat an enemy that must be defeated all at once? Especially when it's a decent-sized group? Leave one member undefeated and it will regrow, like a colony of bacteria.

How can Scientology defeat an enemy it can't find when all of said enemy has to be defeated individually and all of said enemy works together efficiently and effectively? Paramid scheme, meet unseen, but not unfelt, swarm.

Chop off one head, three more grow in its place.

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http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=51134054

Isn't 4chan hosted by the Japanese? They wouldn't particularly care, even if you ignore the fact that it's 4chan, and Scientology issuing the CaD.

But see, that's exactly what I don't get about this whole thing. Anonymous needs "us" to get involved - after all, Anonymous is just a bunch of people and they need other people to get involved. Maybe not in the hacking, but certainly in the incessant calling to jam Scientology phone lines etc. and definitely for their "RL" actions, like flash mob raids on Scientology buildings.
It's why they posted their "Project Chanology" game plan on an open site in the first place, with instructions on what everyone can do (apparently that link isn't working anymore, accoring to a post above).
So it's nice that everyone posts here and stuff but what good is it if everyone just leans back and says "oooh, cool, I wanna see this - lessee how long they manage to sustain the momentum" - because that way, they're not gonna sustain anything, at all.
And for RL actions, the easy anonymity goes out the window, too. Which I assume is the reason the "London fags" thing posted above said to wear masks.

That said, I'm not exactly seeing myself joining a flash mob at the new Berlin Scientology headquarters any time soon - maybe because I'm just too old, maybe because I have the fear that I'd be the only who actually shows up.

So yeah, what I'm saying is when nobody actually joins Anonymous - how many Anonymous who do something are there, really? And don't you think we're expecting a tad much from them, numbers and stamina wise, if we're not even willing to get involved ourselves?
WYTYG, the Martha Raye of the Anonymous/Scientology war...

You don't side with anyone. You get out of the freakin' way before you get pwned/Silenced. Maybe you write a report on the battle from the front lines and sell the story to the nationals.
But see, that's exactly what I don't get about this whole thing. Anonymous needs "us" to get involved - after all, Anonymous is just a bunch of people and they need other people to get involved. Maybe not in the hacking, but certainly in the incessant calling to jam Scientology phone lines etc. and definitely for their "RL" actions, like flash mob raids on Scientology buildings.
It's why they posted their "Project Chanology" game plan on an open site in the first place, with instructions on what everyone can do (apparently that link isn't working anymore, accoring to a post above).
So it's nice that everyone posts here and stuff but what good is it if everyone just leans back and says "oooh, cool, I wanna see this - lessee how long they manage to sustain the momentum" - because that way, they're not gonna sustain anything, at all.
And for RL actions, the easy anonymity goes out the window, too. Which I assume is the reason the "London fags" thing posted above said to wear masks.

That said, I'm not exactly seeing myself joining a flash mob at the new Berlin Scientology headquarters any time soon - maybe because I'm just too old, maybe because I have the fear that I'd be the only who actually shows up.

So yeah, what I'm saying is when nobody actually joins Anonymous - how many Anonymous who do something are there, really? And don't you think we're expecting a tad much from them, numbers and stamina wise, if we're not even willing to get involved ourselves?

Are you sure that's the name you were going for? o_O

She was a USO star.

WYTYG, the Martha Raye of the Anonymous/Scientology war...
Are you sure that's the name you were going for? o_O

(I was going to just post "har har" but then I looked her up...)

Are you sure that's the name you were going for? o_O

(I was going to just post "har har" but then I looked her up...)

This one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Rayebug.jpeg

She was a USO star.
Yeah, I saw that. Still doesn't make much sense, does it?

It's why they posted their "Project Chanology" game plan on an open site in the first place, with instructions on what everyone can do (apparently that link isn't working anymore, accoring to a post above).
It's back online. :cool:

*sig*
lol @ sig. I got it up to like 400 once I think...Jolt is crazy.

In case of personal attack, delete fucking everything. Disappear from the net until they've found another pet project. Fighting back is utterly futile. Case in point: It took Anon less than 24 hours to strike back at the 'hackers' that took down their original site and find the name, address and phone number of those responsible and throwing them out on the internet for anybody who feels like taking more extensive revenge.

Day-um


I want to conduct a RL raid but there's no churches near enough. :(

Sounds like Feb 10 (9th in some parts of the world) is going to be the make-or-break day for Anonymous- the global flash mob. The Chanology site is pretty thorough on how to prepare, how to behave, and how to stay safe.

Hey, my birthday! I'll have to see what I can do.

P.S. Incidentally, what would you say if Anon delivered, say, "relinquish your tax-exempt status" as a condition of surrender? I mean, a clear, real-life political move? Hm?

They've scheduled the next wave. Looks like Scientology will be closed due to thetans again Wednesday.

Hey, my birthday! I'll have to see what I can do.

P.S. Incidentally, what would you say if Anon delivered, say, "relinquish your tax-exempt status" as a condition of surrender? I mean, a clear, real-life political move? Hm?

Well, that does sound like 'philanthropic blackmail'. Should be interesting.

...
So yeah, what I'm saying is when nobody actually joins Anonymous - how many Anonymous who do something are there, really? And don't you think we're expecting a tad much from them, numbers and stamina wise, if we're not even willing to get involved ourselves?
The thing is, I'm not saying "don't get involved". A popular wave of public challenges to Scientology's credibility is a positive thing to bring about and partake in, and I'd strongly encourage spreading the word IRL.

What I'm saying is "Don't side with Anonymous". Anonymous does not solely exist as a series of disgruntled anti-scientology activists. It is effectively the embodiment of the unrestrained anarchy of the internet, and it will not hesitate to turn on the wave of anti-scientology sentiment at the drop of a hat if causes lulz (which, in a way, it kinda would. Think of the media coverage!).

Hey, my birthday! I'll have to see what I can do.

P.S. Incidentally, what would you say if Anon delivered, say, "relinquish your tax-exempt status" as a condition of surrender? I mean, a clear, real-life political move? Hm?

That'd make it terrorism...

What I'm saying is "Don't side with Anonymous". Anonymous does not solely exist as a series of disgruntled anti-scientology activists. It is effectively the embodiment of the unrestrained anarchy of the internet, and it will not hesitate to turn on the wave of anti-scientology sentiment at the drop of a hat if causes lulz (which, in a way, it kinda would. Think of the media coverage!).

Except $cientology is all about censorship, control and suppression- even trying to extend that veil of secrecy onto the Internet itself. Everything that stands against what Anonymous is about. Anonymous suddenly supporting $cientology For The Epic Lulz is like Jews suddenly supporting Nazi Germany wholeheartedly for The Epic Lulz.

That'd make it terrorism...

Terrorists, freedom fighters, vigilantes, bullies, ... an hero.

Hey, my birthday! I'll have to see what I can do.


*spankie spankie*

Except $cientology is all about censorship, control and suppression- even trying to extend that veil of secrecy onto the Internet itself. Everything that stands against what Anonymous is about. Anonymous suddenly supporting $cientology For The Epic Lulz is like Jews suddenly supporting Nazi Germany wholeheartedly for The Epic Lulz.

Not to mention Scientology tried to declare war on the internet several years ago. This first struggle ensured the distribution of all of Scientology's dox to the entire world as well as the utter defeat of their attempt to impose their campaign of censorship, hate, and legal tyranny on the internet. This is like the Second World War of the Internet vs. Scientology, and the opening shots have just been fired.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight on the Chans, we shall fight on Digg and Usenet, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength IRL, we shall defend our internet, whatever the cost may be...we shall never surrender.

Not to mention Scientology tried to declare war on the internet several years ago.

They can't win, once it's on the net you can't get it back. No amount of cease and desist orders will stop the people that saw the chance and grabbed it before it got taken down. Nobody can stop the spread of something that wants to get out, and even if they can it will still remain in the files of thousands, waiting to surface again.

They can't win, once it's on the net you can't get it back. No amount of cease and desist orders will stop the people that saw the chance and grabbed it before it got taken down. Nobody can stop the spread of something that wants to get out, and even if they can it will still remain in the files of thousands, waiting to surface again.

Exactly. I myself would be more than happy to keep the foes of Scientology well supplied with the documents they need.

That'd make it terrorism...

It's not even necessary. Although Scientology has desperately tried to hide it, it is dying and its resources are slowly being drained despite the wealth of its top-level supporters.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html

There is encouragement now from Anon to enlist religious groups.

I had some fun with it and used the contact option from the Westboro Batshit Church to enlist them... basically said that CoS sheltered fags because they're fag lovers. :p

That'd make it terrorism...

Domestic terrorism, even? ;)

Domestic terrorism, even? ;)
Yeah, but only for teh Epic Lulz.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html

There is encouragement now from Anon to enlist religious groups.

I had some fun with it and used the contact option from the Westboro Batshit Church to enlist them... basically said that CoS sheltered fags because they're fag lovers. :p

Ooooh.... Co$ versus the WBC? Both have a shitload of attorneys. Hopefully the Phelps Clan will get themselves tagged as SPs and then the Lawyer Wars can begin.

This is like watching the Zergs and Protoss turn on each other while Humanity breaks out the tailgate parties. Fuuuun.

Terrorists, freedom fighters, vigilantes, bullies, ... an hero.

a hero not an hero

Not to mention Scientology tried to declare war on the internet several years ago. This first struggle ensured the distribution of all of Scientology's dox to the entire world as well as the utter defeat of their attempt to impose their campaign of censorship, hate, and legal tyranny on the internet. This is like the Second World War of the Internet vs. Scientology, and the opening shots have just been fired.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight on the Chans, we shall fight on Digg and Usenet, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength IRL, we shall defend our internet, whatever the cost may be...we shall never surrender.

Interesting analogy there...

It's not even necessary. Although Scientology has desperately tried to hide it, it is dying and its resources are slowly being drained despite the wealth of its top-level supporters.

Really? That's good to hear. Religion as a whole is on the decline all across the board. Slowly and painfully.

Ooooh.... Co$ versus the WBC? Both have a shitload of attorneys. Hopefully the Phelps Clan will get themselves tagged as SPs and then the Lawyer Wars can begin.

I lol'd and roflmao'd. :cool:


All this is such an interesting educational opportunity on so many levels. I never knew Scientology was so f'ing evil.

All this is such an interesting educational opportunity on so many levels. I never knew Scientology was so f'ing evil.

And therein lies Anonymous' biggest success with this entire thing. By making so much noise, they're pulling more attention to CoS's criminal activity. Sure, the general public may see them as a bunch of money-leeching, alien worshipping loons already. But now they're starting to learn about all the deaths, the bullying, the break-ins, etc. That it's not just a group that's harmless to the intelligent person, that these guys are seriously dangerous to society and should be stopped.

Man, I HOPE Feb 10 is full of EPIC WIN. And lulz.

a hero not an hero

"An hero" is a meme that Vandal-Unknown misused. To be an hero means to kill yourself. Or perhaps he was advocating suicide bombing of Scientology churches.

Edit: I had to edit in the word "kill", which I for some strange reason had forgotten.

Man, I HOPE Feb 10 is full of EPIC WIN. And lulz.

How will Co$ react? Will police be involved?

How will Co$ react? Will police be involved?

Depends- everything Anon is planning is perfectly legal peaceful protests. My guess is CoS is going to probably try to plant violent instigators in with Anon to try and turn it violent, or otherwise bully and antagonize people. Maybe try and get license plate numbers and names of anybody they can to use their usual "fair game" tactics.

Hell, the Chanology site itself stresses the importance of maintaining anonymity IRL, and strongly urges basic precautions- take public transit if possible, don't go straight home from the raid because you might be followed and CoS has a history of harassing detractors. There is some downright creepy stuff on YT about it- CoS guys following a reporter to his home and picketing him and harassing him; that sort of thing.

So yeah, if anybody here plans on attending one of the IRL raids, go with a group, disguise yourself (via mask if those are legal, otherwise bulky clothing, sunglasses, scarf, hat, etc), take public transit if viable, and don't go straight home from it. The Chanology site advises celebrating by going to a movie- because then someone tailing you has to wait around for a few hours and it will be obvious who's following you (and then you can call the police on them.)

Depends- everything Anon is planning is perfectly legal peaceful protests. My guess is CoS is going to probably try to plant violent instigators in with Anon to try and turn it violent, or otherwise bully and antagonize people. Maybe try and get license plate numbers and names of anybody they can to use their usual "fair game" tactics.

Hell, the Chanology site itself stresses the importance of maintaining anonymity IRL, and strongly urges basic precautions- take public transit if possible, don't go straight home from the raid because you might be followed and CoS has a history of harassing detractors. There is some downright creepy stuff on YT about it- CoS guys following a reporter to his home and picketing him and harassing him; that sort of thing.

So yeah, if anybody here plans on attending one of the IRL raids, go with a group, disguise yourself (via mask if those are legal, otherwise bulky clothing, sunglasses, scarf, hat, etc), take public transit if viable, and don't go straight home from it. The Chanology site advises celebrating by going to a movie- because then someone tailing you has to wait around for a few hours and it will be obvious who's following you (and then you can call the police on them.)

One hopes that there is enough of a mob that following them home would be impractical. Though the 'everyone is anonymous/wearing masks' makes instigators easy to install. Though, this is Anonymous, not a bunch of hippies. They never said they were peaceful and they certainly don't care about breaking laws, so it's not like it will tarnish their rep...

Depends- everything Anon is planning is perfectly legal peaceful protests. My guess is CoS is going to probably try to plant violent instigators in with Anon to try and turn it violent, or otherwise bully and antagonize people. Maybe try and get license plate numbers and names of anybody they can to use their usual "fair game" tactics.

Hell, the Chanology site itself stresses the importance of maintaining anonymity IRL, and strongly urges basic precautions- take public transit if possible, don't go straight home from the raid because you might be followed and CoS has a history of harassing detractors. There is some downright creepy stuff on YT about it- CoS guys following a reporter to his home and picketing him and harassing him; that sort of thing.

So yeah, if anybody here plans on attending one of the IRL raids, go with a group, disguise yourself (via mask if those are legal, otherwise bulky clothing, sunglasses, scarf, hat, etc), take public transit if viable, and don't go straight home from it. The Chanology site advises celebrating by going to a movie- because then someone tailing you has to wait around for a few hours and it will be obvious who's following you (and then you can call the police on them.)

I saw some guy assault a reporter with a camera on the street (pubic land). When the first cops came, they wouldn't even look at the film.

Hey maybe it'll develop into a huge bloodbath where both sides have hundreds die. Would add a nice change to the news. "Bloodbath in New York Protest/Riot"

I'd love to go, but I don't live near any Church and couldn't really get to NYC. :(

I do have a balaklava I'd love to use though...

/b/, and by extension 4chan, is for losers who have no friends. Anonymous is a manifestation of whiny teenage angst/boredom.

The same could be said of NSG.

Not to mention this seems to rapidly be growing beyond the typical ranks of "Anonymous." The *chans may have started it, but it's pulling in interest and participation from well beyond just the typical Internet lulz crowd.

Not to mention this seems to rapidly be growing beyond the typical ranks of "Anonymous." The *chans may have started it, but it's pulling in interest and participation from well beyond just the typical Internet lulz crowd.

Anarchists, conspiracy theorists and real anti-scientologists?

On a side note, I wonder how long this war will go on. Sooner or later, the lulz will die out, or Scientology will. Perhaps it will end in a long and bloody draw?

Of course if that is the case, Scientology is doomed. It's a public figure, and once a certain amount of damage is done, there's no going back. Anonymous and the chans though, even if hundreds end up in jail, will just rebuild. There's no shortage of /b/ tards after all.

"An hero" is a meme that Vandal-Unknown misused. To be an hero means to yourself. Or perhaps he was advocating suicide bombing of Scientology churches.

In NSG, corruptinz ur memes :p

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html

There is encouragement now from Anon to enlist religious groups.

I had some fun with it and used the contact option from the Westboro Batshit Church to enlist them... basically said that CoS sheltered fags because they're fag lovers. :p

This is a great idea. It's hard to imagine anything pissing off WBC more than "Jesus Christ, pedophile."

/b/, and by extension 4chan, is for losers who have no friends. Anonymous is a manifestation of whiny teenage angst/boredom.

Just like Scientology, amirite?

Just like Scientology, amirite?

Except you only pay for your computer and ISP to join /b/. Everything else is free. Especially the lulz. You don't have to pay $5000 for the privilege of lulz.

:D

What is the origin of the word "lulz"?

Except you only pay for your computer and ISP to join /b/. Everything else is free. Especially the lulz. You don't have to pay $5000 for the privilege of lulz.

:D

Yeah, /b/ copypasta is way better than the crappy sci-fi Hubbard wrote.

Thanks. That would have been my guess as to the etymology, but I thought there might be some other acronym involved.

What is the origin of the word "lulz"?

Say the abbreviation "lol" phonetically, as a word, fast. Then make it a plural while simultaneously actually laughing.

Actually, it's probably just because "lulz" looks funnier.

Hopefully, Scientology will be destroyed and there will be many lulz had by all.

CoS has begun pushing for the Feds and law enforcement to work on this. They claim it's both an "interference with business" and a hate crime against their "religion". So, are they a business or a religion?

Are elders at the notoriously litigious Church of Scientology reaching out to the federal governmental for protection against a recent spate of Internet attacks? A source tells Radar that Church leaders have been so flustered by "Anonymous"— the online collective disrupting the Church's day-to-day operations after it attempted to prevent the dissemination of the now-infamous Tom Cruise video—that they've asked the U.S. Attorney General's office in Los Angeles, the FBI, as well as the LAPD to launch a criminal investigation into possible criminal activity by any hackers.

Disparate individuals working under the banner of "Anonymous" initially congregated on the online collaborative community 4chan (a description of the group, its motives, and its goals can now be found here). Their efforts to draw attention to the Church's "campaigns of misinformation" and tendency to suppress dissent have generally been successful: The first coordinated raid against the COS, a denial of service attack, crashed the Church's website. Anonymous members subsequently bombarded the Church with calls in order to tie up phone lines, sent "black faxes" to waste ink, and also "Google bombed" the Church by tying the word "Scientology" to such nefarious terms as "dangerous" and "cult" in order to skewer search results. A complete rundown of the attack, dubbed "Project Chanology," can be found here. On the site, February 10 is cited as the day of reckoning for Scientologists.

According to our source, the Church is arguing that such attacks on their physical plant and website constitute "illegal interference with business." The CoS is also said to be playing up its nominal role as a religious organization in order to claim that efforts to disrupt its operations are a violation of the Church's First Amendment rights, and thus technically constitute hate crimes.

Initial attempts by authorities in Los Angeles to track the IP addresses used by some of the pranksters have allegedly been successful. Calls to the U.S. Attorney General's office in L.A., the LAPD, and the FBI, however, have not yet been returned.

CoS has begun pushing for the Feds and law enforcement to work on this. They claim it's both an "interference with business" and a hate crime against their "religion". So, are they a business or a religion?

Link, foo'! I want to read the whole thing.

Link, foo'! I want to read the whole thing.

Here:

Sel Appa's story (it's from yesterday): http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/01/scientologists-bring-in-fed-big-boys-to-squash-internet-atta.php
(he did post the whole thing)

Short, kinda contentless follow-up today: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/01/fbi-mum-on-scientologists-request-for-help.php

Hahahah, all I can say is. How long until the movie rights are sold? Lol:D

This is a great idea. It's hard to imagine anything pissing off WBC more than "Jesus Christ, pedophile."

I'm thinking of doing a better email and trying to contact one of the Phelps' directly. I know what they like to hear and I've seen enough trolls that I can be creative. It'll be fun for me. As much as I hate WBC, they at least are mostly harmless compared to CoS.

Here:

Sel Appa's story (it's from yesterday): http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/01/scientologists-bring-in-fed-big-boys-to-squash-internet-atta.php
(he did post the whole thing)

Short, kinda contentless follow-up today: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/01/fbi-mum-on-scientologists-request-for-help.php

I wish I still had my photoshoping of Mr. T into the Jabberwalky, I could give a stamp of approval. But apparently I erased it. sigh.

I needed some of the links contained inside. I just watched some of the videos of 'raids' (which is really just a handful of yay-hoos handing out fliers or holding a fairly successful "Honk if you hate Scientology" signs.

There's a Scientology near Howard and 1st here in San Francisco. I wonder if they're going to do the whole 'flash mob' thing there, too. They need better camera people. And more than three or four yay-hoos.

There was another point, but I'm kinda sleepy so I forgot it.

EDIT: OH! Totally remembered. On the Chanology wiki I saw something actually intelligent! They said that it was important to not attack ANY other Anonymous member even if they attack you because of the possibility of plants put in to start shit within the group.

EDIT: OH! Totally remembered. On the Chanology wiki I saw something actually intelligent! They said that it was important to not attack ANY other Anonymous member even if they attack you because of the possibility of plants put in to start shit within the group.
They're not stupid. They're trying to really win this war.

Surely if you're taking part in one of these actions, simply dress as a mundane. Arrive beforehand, and you can scout out the area if necessary. If no-one else seems to be there, treat yourself to coffee and a museum, then go home. If people are there, mask up and get involved.

Surely if you're taking part in one of these actions, simply dress as a mundane. Arrive beforehand, and you can scout out the area if necessary. If no-one else seems to be there, treat yourself to coffee and a museum, then go home. If people are there, mask up and get involved.

I have this vision of a lot of people dressed normally with masks in their pockets accidently flooding nearby coffee shops and museums...

It's hard to be on anyone's side on this mostly. Looking at the videos of their 'direct action' I chained to a response video about some dude who apparently had a friend of his 'lulzed' or whatever and so he decided to declare war on Anonymous. Looking through the comments by the people claiming to be Anonymous, they're just unpleasant. It really smacks of middle class white kids with nothing better to do who still think homophobia and racial slurs are 'edgy.'

Then, buried in there I saw this:

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The whole Scientology raid will inevitably be a failure. People weren't staying anonymous enough when they went to the press and they made other major mistakes. One of the larger parts of the raiders (711) has called it quits and doesn't want to be a part of the CoS raid.
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Yeah... it's pretty bullshit. Once again the difference between newfags and oldfags. Newfags want to be part of it for the credit. Oldfags are just in it for the lulz.
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+10 internets to you sir.
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Fun to break shit, yes.

From here (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=_g21e_TR2fY&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3D_g21e_TR2fY%26feature%3Drelated).

It's hard to be on anyone's side on this mostly. Looking at the videos of their 'direct action' I chained to a response video about some dude who apparently had a friend of his 'lulzed' or whatever and so he decided to declare war on Anonymous. Looking through the comments by the people claiming to be Anonymous, they're just unpleasant. It really smacks of middle class white kids with nothing better to do who still think homophobia and racial slurs are 'edgy.'
This is what I'm saying. Anonymous is not to be relied upon as some saviour of the silent majority because it's necessarily unstable. Not only is it unreliable as a resource, but it's also immensely unreliable as a crutch; if people know of Anonymous's nature, its challenge is weakened.

All it takes is one word, leaked to the right media outlets and sufficiently backed with references to the 'chans, to obliterate any popular support for Anonymous action: Paedophilia. There is more than enough evidence in the various 'chan boards out there to support the claim, even if it is a completely sweeping generalisation.

But nonetheless, Anonymous has proven that Scientology can be challenged. Whether with Anonymous or not, people are starting to speak out, and this is to be condoned. Maybe we'll even see a renewed sense of activism, where dissent isn't condemned as traitorous, incitement to hatred or terrorism or whatever the heck they call it now.

All it takes is one word, leaked to the right media outlets and sufficiently backed with references to the 'chans, to obliterate any popular support for Anonymous action: Paedophilia. There is more than enough evidence in the various 'chan boards out there to support the claim, even if it is a completely sweeping generalisation.

There are a ton of pedos on the chans. That's basically the bottom line; for every somewhat normal person like me, there's a few weirdos of all stripes hanging out there. You just can't ban them effectively enough to keep up with it.

I have this vision of a lot of people dressed normally with masks in their pockets accidently flooding nearby coffee shops and museums...

It's hard to be on anyone's side on this mostly. Looking at the videos of their 'direct action' I chained to a response video about some dude who apparently had a friend of his 'lulzed' or whatever and so he decided to declare war on Anonymous. Looking through the comments by the people claiming to be Anonymous, they're just unpleasant. It really smacks of middle class white kids with nothing better to do who still think homophobia and racial slurs are 'edgy.'

Then, buried in there I saw this:


From here (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=_g21e_TR2fY&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3D_g21e_TR2fY%26feature%3Drelated).
While Scientology is full of idiot cultists, "Anonymous" is full of egotistical racist, classist, sexist, etc, lunatic script kiddies and others with hardly any morals willing to assault any single person in any way possible with cross-effort using their individual life-ruining 'talents.'

There are a ton of pedos on the chans. That's basically the bottom line; for every somewhat normal person like me, there's a few weirdos of all stripes hanging out there. You just can't ban them effectively enough to keep up with it.
They didn't create Pedobear just for lulz.

There are a ton of pedos on the chans. That's basically the bottom line; for every somewhat normal person like me, there's a few weirdos of all stripes hanging out there. You just can't ban them effectively enough to keep up with it.
I know it's the odd rogue poster (even the odd rogue board; some of the chan sites are really freakin' wrong), but generalisation and media spin is a very powerful tool, and "Anonymous are the internet pedos" has a lot of persuasion potential. It doesn't even need to be paedophilia-related; in the UK, where due to government incompetence there's a lot of fears about data security, and where there is currently a broad-sweeping media focus on social-network-based "suicide cults", the suggestions "Anonymous encourage people to commit suicide" (An Hero?) and "Anonymous leak confidential personal information to each other" (Doxes?) can make the average Joe Real Worlder very, very worried about what Anonymous might be up to, however prejudicial these claims might be.

Basically, Anonymous do not have the moral high-ground, and this is a potential weak spot in such a high-profile campaign.

While Scientology is full of idiot cultists, "Anonymous" is full of egotistical racist, classist, sexist, etc, lunatic script kiddies and others with hardly any morals willing to assault any single person in any way possible with cross-effort using their individual life-ruining 'talents.'



Neither are good groups, but given the choice, I take the egotistical, racist, classist, sexist, pedo, etc. lunatic script kiddies and others with hardly any morals.

The Chans are like the internet equivalent of Mos Eisley.

I have this strange conception about Anonymous;

That racist, sexist, classist, terrorism that are used to label them, is strangely in a bizarre way, egalitarian.

Egalitarian? Is something that has a mob mentality and bent to destruction of others in the name of the lulz could be called egalitarian? Probably so, I mean, because they are iconoclasts by destroying identity (or as they say, "unwarranted self importance").

Then again, I think it's best not to pursue this too deep. It's like staring at Yog-Sothoth,... quietly your mind warps itself.

Neither are good groups, but given the choice, I take the egotistical, racist, classist, sexist, pedo, etc. lunatic script kiddies and others with hardly any morals.

The Chans are like the internet equivalent of Mos Eisley.

They're none of that. All they are are trolls. They aren't really racist or anything. Just trolling immaturity.

I have this strange conception about Anonymous;

That racist, sexist, classist, terrorism that are used to label them, is strangely in a bizarre way, egalitarian.

Egalitarian? Is something that has a mob mentality and bent to destruction of others in the name of the lulz could be called egalitarian? Probably so, I mean, because they are iconoclasts by destroying identity (or as they say, "unwarranted self importance").

Then again, I think it's best not to pursue this too deep. It's like staring at Yog-Sothoth,... quietly your mind warps itself.

I'd say they are more of a Jarre/Pere Ubu kind of thing. The destroying identity thing is one of those traps, the more self important they are as a group the more they are candidates for their own treatment. Which again leans towards the Pere Ubu thing...

They're none of that. All they are are trolls. They aren't really racist or anything. Just trolling immaturity.

Well of course, but it was more fun to use the direct words of the person I was quoting.

I'd say they are more of a Jarre/Pere Ubu kind of thing. The destroying identity thing is one of those traps, the more self important they are as a group the more they are candidates for their own treatment. Which again leans towards the Pere Ubu thing...

Pere Ubu is Anonymous... well, I don't know that Anon had been King of Poland though :p.

I agree though, that the Ubu personage (or is it just Alfred Jarry) is a proto Anonymous. 'Cept that he made a play rather than posting in some chans or youtube.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-threat31jan31,0,5172691.story

"Mailings of a suspicious white powder to 10 Church of Scientology addresses prompted the evacuation of dozens of people and the closure of a major thoroughfare Wednesday as hazmat teams were called to examine the packages."

Personally, I wouldn't put it past the Scientologists if they actually mailed these packages to themselves to try and discredit Anon and get the feds involved.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-threat31jan31,0,5172691.story

"Mailings of a suspicious white powder to 10 Church of Scientology addresses prompted the evacuation of dozens of people and the closure of a major thoroughfare Wednesday as hazmat teams were called to examine the packages."

Personally, I wouldn't put it past the Scientologists if they actually mailed these packages to themselves to try and discredit Anon and get the feds involved.

That's the problem when your group is an amorphous blob made up of some notoriously childish people, you never can know what's what. It's kind of a lame prank. And dated. But that doesn't mean some channer wouldn't think it's funny.

Actually, this is an interesting question, which is stronger-a mass of unorganized dicks, or organized dicks?

Hello it's me, spending weekend of swimming through the garbage of the tubes to report.

Right now Anonymous is a little sidetracked.

The Orginial 'oldfags', have decided that this is "Too Serious" and are backing out. Many of the Chans were shutdown from DDOS and possibly 'hired' hacker groups. (Whom was shortly after pwned by others.)

Most of the Script kiddies have found some guy name Chris Fetch on Youtube who has basicly issued death threats of "I'm GOING TO GET YOU" to everyone in Anonymous, so they are about ready to put him through the virtual meatgrinder.

Funny thing is is that many of the current Anonymous who are doing this
are the people who joined up to help. Many don't even go to any of the Chans.


They've done that sort of stuff before. They did it during "freakout" and they did it when BBC made that video on them.


Personally, I wouldn't put it past the Scientologists if they actually mailed these packages to themselves to try and discredit Anon and get the feds involved.
They've done that sort of stuff before. They did it during "freakout" and they did it when BBC made that video on them.

Hello it's me again, spending weekend of swimming through the garbage of the tubes to report.

Right now Anonymous is a little sidetracked.

The Orginial 'oldfags', have decided that this is "Too Serious" and are backing out. Many of the Chans were shutdown from DDOS and possibly 'hired' hacker groups. (Whom was shortly after pwned by others.)

Most of the Script kiddies have found some guy name Chris Fetch on Youtube who has basicly issued death threats of "I'm GOING TO GET YOU" to everyone in Anonymous, so they are about ready to put him through the virtual meatgrinder.

Funny thing is is that many of the current Anonymous who are doing this
are the people who joined up to help. Many don't even go to any of the Chans.


They've done that sort of stuff before. They did it during "freakout" and they did it when BBC made that video on them.

I actually posted some of the exchange between the anon people from the comments section of a Chris Fetch video about a page or two ago with the whole 'oldfag/newfag' thing they were going on about. Ha! I feel so in the loop!

So the answer is-organized dicks, they can stay focused for half a damn second.

All it takes is one word, leaked to the right media outlets and sufficiently backed with references to the 'chans, to obliterate any popular support for Anonymous action: Paedophilia.
Remember that news report a month ago when Anonymous got that Pedo locked up?

That's one of their list of "Acomplishments" that they are giving to the public.

Sci:"They have CP there!"
Public:"Yeah and the guy who posted it was arrested."
Sci: "But they st..."
Public:"The guy who posted it was arrested."

Kind of defeats that.
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It's funny though, especially watching these "Average" people try and fit in with the Anonymous group, they are all being given a crash course in the "Anonymous" way of life...

And what's scary is how so many are taking to it so easily.

I guess deep down people can really fall into a 'group mind' system.

I'm so making this my thesis. Or at least a book.

I'm so making this my thesis. Or at least a book.

Might turn out to be a good read, go for it.

Anonymous has crashed the scientology server several times, as well as stopped 2 school shootings and several child pornographers. By working semi- independantly, they are actually doing things about problems instead of just whining about them. I would shake their hands, but most of them are too sticky.

That's the problem when your group is an amorphous blob made up of some notoriously childish people, you never can know what's what. It's kind of a lame prank. And dated. But that doesn't mean some channer wouldn't think it's funny.

Actually, this is an interesting question, which is stronger-a mass of unorganized dicks, or organized dicks?

Someone posted a few days ago on 4chan that just after anthrax scare, they dumped flour on someone's porch and there were hazmat teams there later.

Still might not be true. They lie like rugs all the time.

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009881544

"The attacks have defaced and rendered inoperable a number of COS web sites. But as a very wealthy institution, the Church has fought back with technological answers. On January 21, the Church of Scientology moved its domain to Prolexic Technologies, a group that specializes in protecting Web sites from [denial of service] attacks by creating a safe tunnel by filtering all incoming mail and then allowing only clean messages through."

WHAT...THE...FUCK?!

Of course, when you charge members thousands of dollars for books, auditing, and courses, you amass quite a large sum of money.

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009881544



WHAT...THE...FUCK?!

Maybe the "Oh yeah?" factor might get them focused again instead of picking on a YouTube geek.

Meh, geeks will turn on themselves at the drop of the hat...

Maybe, hopefully, the moving of Scientology's website to a more secure server will foster a greater number and more serious RL raids, considering that now e-raids are more difficult.

I guess they managed the Googlebomb (http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-01-29-n23.html). Not that that's anything more than a light chuckle.

'anonymous' saying they are going to do everything they can to stop scientology.

Could anyone explain what this 'anonymous' really is, I've heard a lot about them, but I don't really know what it is and I don't have enough time to search for it, and to be honest I don't care enough.

Wait, anonymous is doing a public service instead of making people claw their eyes out? This is like a paradox within the paradox known as /b.

Wait, anonymous is doing a public service instead of making people claw their eyes out? This is like a paradox within the paradox known as /b.

I think of it like King Ghidorah (http://pub32.bravenet.com/photocenter/remote/2724789253/C69BEC91A0.jpg)-he flies through the city with his three heads, blasting away pretty much at random. Occasionally it might turn out that a stray blast or two frees a little girl trapped somewhere, or knocks a tree over that allows a kitten to get free...but still...

I got my own copy of the video naow. Co$ phails.