NationStates Jolt Archive

And my nation has a relative dislike of all Abrahamic Faiths. Muslims most of all though due to their history. And really, at present, it's nominally illegal to be a Christian or Jew, but it's really not enforced that heavily. Muslims though are pretty much killed on sight if discovered. So they could work with a Jewish nation yes; they might even be willing to give Judaism legal standing in their own nation.

why is everyone against muslims. Lol, Tokyoni, it's the opposite way in RL Iran.

why is everyone against muslims. Lol, Tokyoni, it's the opposite way in RL Iran.

xD, yeah, that was sort of the intent; an alternate history where the 'native' religions prevailed over Islam in at least part of the Middle East.

the native religion in Iran was Zoroastronism, i think.

the native religion in Iran was Zoroastronism, i think.

Yeah, and Manicheism too in like ancientish times; but in modern days, it's more like "Druze"/"Gnostic" religions, which is what I was going for. Dunno, I just find religion very interesting from a literature point of view. (-is agnostic IRL-)

Note: Pakistan has to be shaded light green........

Uiri, if you're reading, I'd just like to say that having a significant Pyekan minority in your nation is fine with me. This morning I was trying to decide who to ask to host the Pyekan Exiles Congress, a pro-democracy lobby group that some nations may even see fit to recognise as a government in exile, and Indochina seems as good a place as any, especially if you've hundreds of thousands of refugees and ex-pats et cetera.

In truth the junta has probably deliberately chased some communities across the border, partly to get rid of trouble makers and partly so they can accuse you of harbouring criminals, sponsoring rebel camps and so on, and make a stronger claim to your territory based on the number of ethnic Pyekan there! On the other hand, many of the Pyekan exiles may well be willing to act as spies for you, or join military operations against the Pyekan-Kuogu if you ever undertake any.

Fine with me. The Mekong historically divided rather than united anyways.

Greece outraged at Turkish Animal-Military (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13661633&postcount=31)

Greece's Prime Minister would like to tour nations surrounding Mussleburgh regarding what she views as an unspeakable act of animal cruely. She would like to meet with animal rights activists, government officials, and military personnel.

Since Jaredcohenia and Rowle are no longer here, that leaves Xaristan and Animarnia left as PC nations in the area. Would you be interested in meeting with the PM of Greece about this?

Also, if anyone would like to RP as Iran, Iraq, Armenia, or Georgia?

I'm reposting my request because it seems to have been overlooked.
If I could, I would like to claim New Zealand, Chile and Peru. (They may seem worlds apart, but it's really just a semi-quickish jaunt across the South Pacific.) I shall call this nation the Kingdom of Greater Zealand.

Also, I have a question. When it says to design my nation's history back to 1950, does that mean that it has to be the real nation until 1950, or I have to at least have the histoty from 1950-present?

I'm reposting my request because it seems to have been overlooked.


Also, I have a question. When it says to design my nation's history back to 1950, does that mean that it has to be the real nation until 1950, or I have to at least have the histoty from 1950-present?

The date has been pushed back to WW2 and it means that the History is RL up until the end of WW2 when it diverges from RL History.

For example, IRL France fought Indochina from the end of WW2 to 1954 ending in Indochinese independance in 1954. In E:SR France didn't even attempt to secure it because the imperial age was coming to a close and France knew that. Not only that but a war over there would have been costly especially since when the Jap's surrendered they surrendered to the natives and instead of being separate Indochina was united in its pursuit for independance, despite the ethnic differences.

I dunno if someone might have claimed some of those countries in between you posting that claim and you re-posting it.

Greece outraged at Turkish Animal-Military

Greece's Prime Minister would like to tour nations surrounding Mussleburgh regarding what she views as an unspeakable act of animal cruely. She would like to meet with animal rights activists, government officials, and military personnel.

I am swamped right now with work can I RP an answer tomorrow? I have 3 VERY important tests/papers coming up so I am hard core revising right now. Sorry I'm not more active.

Thanks for putting me on the first page. ;) Much appritiated.

I am swamped right now with work can I RP an answer tomorrow? I have 3 VERY important tests/papers coming up so I am hard core revising right now. Sorry I'm not more active.

If you'd like to respond, you may, but it isn't required, really.

why is everyone against muslims.

Don't ask.

Did anyone read my updated history?

I'll be posting the invasion of Luxembourg. I need someone to RP someone in Luxembourg when I invade it. (It doesn't have much of a military.)

Nosovia, is your factbook open for comments yet?

I will be asking for an embassy.

I'm going to begin an attempt to reannex Eritrea, there is a history of conflict between them and Ethiopia, so it fits well.

from the wiki:

" On December 2, 1950 the UN General Assembly adopted Resolution 390 A (V) to federate Eritrea with Ethiopia. From September 1951 to November 1962, Eritrea was an autonomous territory federated with Ethiopia.

Increasing unrest and resistance in Eritrea against the federation with Ethiopia eventually led to a decision by the Ethiopian government to annex Eritrea as its 14th province in 1962. An Eritrean independence movement formed in the early 1960s which later erupted into a 31 year long civil war against successive Ethiopian governments that ended in 1991. Following a UN supervised referendum in Eritrea dubbed UNOVER in which the Eritrean people overwhelmingly voted for independence from Ethiopia, Eritrea declared its independence and gained international recognition in 1993. "


Right now a minor Sudekyan incursion into Eritrean territory is heavily underfire. I will be sending reenforcements soon and the whole thing should escalate into a minor war.

I might need someone to play Eritrea.


The thread will be this one -> http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13664250#post13664250


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My factbook is open for comments

Sweet mother of god :p I didn't know North Korea was claimed

At the moment Sudeth-Kya distrusts Europeans in general, because of their colonizing ways, so at this stage I'm only looking for embassies in Africa and in the nearby middle east nations.

Later on I will try for more embassies.

If you want an embassy in sudeth-Kya you can try for one.

I would just like to let it be known that the decision to aid Kansiov in what was going to be a war on North Korea had absolutely no motive of imperialism behind it; we were aiding our allies, Kansiov, after a North Korean terrorist attack. Thusfar, the only nation that has had any talk of imperialism is Austria; I do not want my nation's name to be dragged through the same mud. Anyone who has been following the League of Venice knows that Austria and I have very different reasons for wanting a united Europe.

I would just like to let it be known that the decision to aid Kansiov in what was going to be a war on North Korea had absolutely no motive of imperialism behind it; we were aiding our allies, Kansiov, after a North Korean terrorist attack. Thusfar, the only nation that has had any talk of imperialism is Austria; I do not want my nation's name to be dragged through the same mud. Anyone who has been following the League of Venice knows that Austria and I have very different reasons for wanting a united Europe.

Well, you should make that clear to Moorington (if he is still here, has he been banned?). Because he seems to stress its Imperalistic in nature. If you form a united Europe in your mould the world won't mind, in his, with his "Holy Crusades" etc., they probably will. ;)

Well, you should make that clear to Moorington (if he is still here, has he been banned?). Because he seems to stress its Imperalistic in nature. If you form a united Europe in your mould the world won't mind, in his, with his "Holy Crusades" etc., they probably will. ;)

But you see, that's precisely what makes the League so interesting is the internal conflict from the get-go. Moorington wants imperialism, I do not. However, we're both for a united Europe, if for completely different reasons. It's that element of internal drama that will make the League interesting to RP. We're just trying to make a good RP here.

And I realize that aligning myself with Austria makes me look like I want imperialism, but I've made it clear our differences in the matter; when I start colonizing, then jump down my throat, but aiding allies to defend themselves against terrorism /= Imperialism.

South Arabian Flag Tournament! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13664358#post13664358)

Make a flag for Southern Arabia! Just wanted something fun. Since I'm leaving for 5 days, I will count on you guys to post on it.

also, i need someone to RP as the Mogandishu Mauraders, the infamous modern pirates planning to invade one of my islands. If you read my News Thread, you'd know what I mean.

I can do that. Is it after you come back in 5 days?

yeah

read this, it'll help you with the info: South Arabian News (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555546)

Oh, by the way, I'm being attacked (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555889) by Pyeki. Indonesian states, you were supposed to "kill him"! ;)

factbook will be up soon.

Sorry I've been gone the past few days. Can anyone give me an update as to what has been going on in a nutshell?

From what I gather:

The League of Venice is gaining support and opposition
A whole bunch of players left because Hong Kong and Macau aren't claimable and considered part of mainland China
A few new players came.
Tensions between the FSS and Pyeki and between Honako and Pyeki are rising
Socotra is being invaded by pirates
There is a south arabian flag competition
ka-Spel is trying to get San Marino and Vatican City integrated with Italy
There were two car bombs in Germany and then in Luxembourg
I uncovered the Pyeki Government-in-Exile in Vientiane

I think that's most of it...

Who left... the map still has everyone that I remember on it...

I'm sorry for not being on lately, but we had Friday off so it's been a constant party all weekend. I'll be back for sure by tomorrow. Can someone fill me in at all on the international situation?

I'm sorry for not being on lately, but we had Friday off so it's been a constant party all weekend. I'll be back for sure by tomorrow. Can someone fill me in at all on the international situation?

This is a pretty good sum-up. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13665465&postcount=532)

For new players:

Due to a few members leaving, the following countries are now up for grabs:

Spain
Portugal
Morocco
Sweden
Finland
Norway
Mexico
Ecuador
Venezuela
Iran
Iraq
Georgia
Armenia
Kuwait

Let me know if I'm missing any.

Hey, I'm in a rush, but I'd like to put a claim on Republic of Congo, Gabon, and Equatorial Guinea, if possible.

I think that'd be just over 6 million people and just under US$60bln PPP GDP, making it relatively wealthy by African standards but still quite modest.

Bungussi and Djanvallaland will start out as a white-dominated post colonial Republic and develop from there.

Ah, I have to go!

If it's not too late, I'd like to claim Romania, Montenegro, and Albania as the Kingdom of Romania.

Can i take Norway, Finland and Sweden since they're up for grabs?


Kingdom of Lynion

Can everyone check your factbooks? I left a few messages around.

Duchy of Lachenburg - Estonia, Latvia, Dominican Republic

Thank you.

I have three questions that need to be answered:
1. How long is one real life day worth in game?
2. What active nations are there in the middle-east?
3. When is the map next going to be updated?


EDIT: Its Mussleburgh btw.

map (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k155/Uiri/Uiri/Maps/ESR_Map.png)

I have taken it upon myself to update the map seeing as how Kampf has apparently quit ESR. I hope this is acceptable.

map (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k155/Uiri/Uiri/Maps/ESR_Map.png)

I have taken it upon myself to update the map seeing as how Kampf has apparently quit ESR. I hope this is acceptable.

I don't mind. I'm good at doing maps as well.

Hey all... I'm going to need someone to RP the government of Cyprus soon... an invasion is a-coming.

Hey all... I'm going to need someone to RP the government of Cyprus soon... an invasion is a-coming.

Brilliant and I was going to try and set up an alliance with you :rolleyes:
Now I may have to send assistance for Cyprus, you would pose a direct threat to my country if you were to invade. Please don't. I would rather be friends than enemies.

Well, I'd have to say that that wouldn't be wise. Check the IC thread for the beginning of the groundwork for my invasion thread. There should not be any reason for anyone to want to stop my invasion of Cyprus by the time my groundwork is done. You'll see as it comes. But you'll have to have a VERY good IC reason to send them help after all is said and done.

Sooner or later big bad Russia will show its face. Until then, sit tight while i try to figure out what's going on.

Sorry about this, but Kulivokia, could you check your TG's. :)

And now the fun begins...

AB I need to speak with you.

Luxembourg invasion thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556011

The League of Venice Conference thread is now closed. The League has all of the members it's going to get in this meeting. Any new members will be announced in the IC thread. The members of the league of Venice are as follows:

The Mediterranean Alliance
Austria-Moorington
The Federal Dominion of Germany
The Worker's State of Kulikovia

Any new members seeking admittance into the League of Venice should post in the Mediterranean Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13659636#post13659636) or the Austrian Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555281).

Greal and Moorington: We should have an IC meeting with the first "official" members of the League sometime soon.

ka-Spel, I started the meeting for our leaders that you requested.

Well, you should make that clear to Moorington (if he is still here, has he been banned?). Because he seems to stress its Imperalistic in nature. If you form a united Europe in your mould the world won't mind, in his, with his "Holy Crusades" etc., they probably will. ;)

I was banned! Actually, I am banned, on some of my other accounts but I guess, that my length of time here on the forums has only made this (my 05-06?) account banned for the last few days.

Of course, it hasn't prevented my actual 'nation' of Moorington (6.2 billion, but its age is actually much more then the POP implies, meh, I'm lazy with the issues) from being deleted so that is why I've gone cold on the RP. Mainly because I may get more of my amusing nations deleted and this account deleted; which would be not so great (to say the least), if I let myself back on before I got my somewhat eccentric emotions under control.

So, yeah, if anyone wants to send anything like communication my way feel free to send it via Maxen von Bismarck and/or my AIM, RepublicanMax.

ka-Spel sums it up rather well, and let me assure you that we have something sort of worked out, with the pompous and eccentric Austrians forming the 'soul' of the League and the Italians actually providing for the fleshy bits- like everything else. So, you are going to have to put up with a rhetoric filled Drekcsler, a weak Ludendorff and a pretentious Bismarck, but have no fear. Those are the only three Austrian's who you need to worry about -not the 1st Divison- regardless how many slips that make about you being godless heathens that the righteous justice of the Holy League (er, excuse me, League of Venice) needs to cleanse.

So much to read up on, and with school starting up again up after the STAR testing funk I have no idea if I can keep myself to my pretentious standards, but have not a undue amount of fear... Me, nor my "shoddy empire building" is done yet!

Ah, it seems that my little LoV is just about big enough to fend for itself- Greal is a good addition, and Kulikovia; too bad that now the Sudentland is out of the foreseeable future now. Oh well. Hey, ka-Spel, if you can give me an update on the extensive plans we both laid out before my departure, that'd be great. The Special Directive Unit is itching for something to do; non-humanitarian of course.

Ah, and my Internal Events (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555620) thread. Not quite done yet, but by this time next week it'd be quite essential, I think, to Austria-Moorington.

Sooner or later big bad Russia will show its face. Until then, sit tight while i try to figure out what's going on.

Did you get my (bad) message on your factbook?

Is anyone going to respond to my invasion of Luxembourg.........

Oh, oh! *Hops about*

Quick, someone confirm or deny my claim (Gabon, Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea) so that my widly unpopular apartheid government can get on its high horse over the outlandish invasion of Luxembourg and make threats it can't back up! Or not, as the case may be.

Edit: Maybe, Greal :) We're going to express outrage, if Bungussi and Djanvallaland ever becomes part of ESR, and probably announce sanctions or something, which may not matter if you've already cut ties with us for having racial apartheid in effect since Federation.

Indeed, I would like to be approved too, if possible :-)

ATTN: Greal, Kulikovia, and Moorington:
I will set up a thread tonight that will be considered the "official" league of Venice thread, where all business will be conducted in the future. if anyone has any name ideas, shoot them over in a TG.

am I still allowed to clam Norway, Sweden and Finland??

Is anyone going to respond to my invasion of Luxembourg.........

Not me. I'm trying to make as many friends as possible. I want to see what other people think first.

I hate that you all play in the USA time.

((EDIT: Its Mussy again :rolleyes:))

I was banned! Actually, I am banned, on some of my other accounts but I guess, that my length of time here on the forums has only made this (my 05-06?) account banned for the last few days.

Of course, it hasn't prevented my actual 'nation' of Moorington (6.2 billion, but its age is actually much more then the POP implies, meh, I'm lazy with the issues) from being deleted so that is why I've gone cold on the RP. Mainly because I may get more of my amusing nations deleted and this account deleted; which would be not so great (to say the least), if I let myself back on before I got my somewhat eccentric emotions under control.

So, yeah, if anyone wants to send anything like communication my way feel free to send it via Maxen von Bismarck and/or my AIM, RepublicanMax.

ka-Spel sums it up rather well, and let me assure you that we have something sort of worked out, with the pompous and eccentric Austrians forming the 'soul' of the League and the Italians actually providing for the fleshy bits- like everything else. So, you are going to have to put up with a rhetoric filled Drekcsler, a weak Ludendorff and a pretentious Bismarck, but have no fear. Those are the only three Austrian's who you need to worry about -not the 1st Divison- regardless how many slips that make about you being godless heathens that the righteous justice of the Holy League (er, excuse me, League of Venice) needs to cleanse.

So much to read up on, and with school starting up again up after the STAR testing funk I have no idea if I can keep myself to my pretentious standards, but have not a undue amount of fear... Me, nor my "shoddy empire building" is done yet!

Ah, it seems that my little LoV is just about big enough to fend for itself- Greal is a good addition, and Kulikovia; too bad that now the Sudentland is out of the foreseeable future now. Oh well. Hey, ka-Spel, if you can give me an update on the extensive plans we both laid out before my departure, that'd be great. The Special Directive Unit is itching for something to do; non-humanitarian of course.

Ah, and my Internal Events (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555620) thread. Not quite done yet, but by this time next week it'd be quite essential, I think, to Austria-Moorington.

Erm, yeah, just stay out of South Asia. ;)

Erm, yeah, just stay out of South Asia. ;)

Yeah, and both of you leave South-East Asia alone.

Yeah, and both of you leave South-East Asia alone.

One must agree old chap.





















Wait, I play Turkey what am I talking about?

Erm, yeah, just stay out of South Asia. ;)

*Covers maps*

Erm, yes, of course.

Moorington - you better stay out of South-East Asia. The only one everyone hates is Pyeki so he's the only one we'd do nothing about. Although an invasion would result in doubled border security.

Did you get my (bad) message on your factbook?

I'll get to it.

Oh, oh! *Hops about*

Quick, someone confirm or deny my claim (Gabon, Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea) so that my widly unpopular apartheid government can get on its high horse over the outlandish invasion of Luxembourg and make threats it can't back up! Or not, as the case may be.

Edit: Maybe, Greal :) We're going to express outrage, if Bungussi and Djanvallaland ever becomes part of ESR, and probably announce sanctions or something, which may not matter if you've already cut ties with us for having racial apartheid in effect since Federation.

Indeed, I would like to be approved too, if possible :-)

am I still allowed to clam Norway, Sweden and Finland??

You're all approved.

new map (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k155/Uiri/Uiri/Maps/ESR_Map-1.png)

Exports: $53.121 billion
Exports commodities: clothing, timber, rubber, rice, fish, tobacco, footwear, tin, copper, gold, electricity, coffee, wood products, crude oil, marine products
Exports partners: Amazonian America, Mongolia Empire, German Federal Dominion, United Kingdom, Kansiovian Federation, Pan-Oceanic Alliance, Federal Strait Settlements

Imports: $67.25 billion
Imports commodities: petroleum products, cigarrettes, machinery equipment, vehicles, pharmaceutical products, fertilizer, steel products, raw cotton, grain, cement
Imports partners: Mongolian Empire, Kansovian Federation, Fedral Strait Settlements

What, how much and to whom I export. What, how much and from who I import.

Romanian Factbook Up. Not yet open for diplomacy; its still in its infancy stage :-)
But it sure will be soon. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556078)

AP testing going on this week and next, and I'm gettin' pretty busy with it (seniors and all...tougher than nigerian hair). Candistan, atm, as he seems to be avaliable will hold things down while I'm out - I'll pop in as I can when I'm not delving into the wonderful field of statistics or psychology with my RL people.

We don't need to move a million miles an hour here - a steady pace is fine with everyone having RL things to do and NS never dominating life. I like how things are progressing now - everyone's doing a nice job in establishing this Earth, and me and Candistan will have some big events to launch before May's over for everyone...the whole Earth as we know it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556102

Factbook for Bungussi and Djanvallaland.

You'll notice that, since its creation in the early 1970s, the Republic has practiced racial apartheid. This is not in keeping with my own views, but that shouldn't matter for the purposes of RP.

With the exception of Germany, the Republic wishes to maintain relations with most western nations, so I'd like to hear from other players on what their nations think of us. Did you cut ties when we declared independence (from France, mainly) and refused to recognise German sovereignty in France and the Netherlands? Later, when we refused to lift the racial divide? Only when international pressure forced you to? Or not at all?

Before you go all, "my government's moral! Not like every administration in real life!" remember that we have oil, gas, uranium, gold, copper, and timber amongst other resources, and a per capita GDP that's actually about the global average (in other words, several times Africa's usual)... but then, yeah, the government's still violently racist.

Good job on the factbook, did your nation support France or Germany during the invasion, I would think that your nation would want independence from France.

Thanks.
Obviously I'll get all the mundane details and statistics sorted during this week.

Mostly we -by that I mean the rich white settlers- used the invasion as an opportunity to not just gain independence but to get exactly what they wanted. I mean, the nations could probably have gained peaceful independence as in reality, but the white elite wanted to maintain an uneaven share of power, and even overtly racist laws. If we just did that any old time, some powerful nations might have intervened to stop us, so we did it while everyone was more worried about what you were doing to France and the Netherlands, larger, richer, whiter countries.

Still, even though English has become the first language and many of the most powerful people are of English origin, the French are still the most numerous Europeans, followed by a mix of English, Dutch, Spanish, and just a few Portuguese and others.

We were too busy fighting the black population in the interior -now called Bungussi- to actively help anyone in your war, but we did harbour French and Dutch opponents to the German take-over once it was no longer safe for them at home.

If you don't mind too much, I assume that a lot of French and Dutch flocked to Djanvallaland in the aftermath of the invasion. Probably mostly those rich enough to get out when it was already getting bad. They now constitute a wealthy and influential lobby that pressures our government to advocate independence for France and the Netherlands, so we've no choice but to see Germany as a hostile entity.

In essence, we supported France, but haven't been able to actually do much about it. Five million blacks tend to want freedom from one million white masters, which keeps them busy, and we're a long way from Europe!

Of course we're now outraged about the invasion of Luxembourg, and expect the powerful financial sector there to make a desperate attempt to hide much of its assets in co-operative Djanvallaland...

Good start

I'll be putting up about post about the occupation of Luxembourg.

Kingdom of Romania Factbook Open for Diplomacy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556078)

It's not entirely finished yet, but it's almost there ;-) If someone could please add this to the front page there, that would be stellar :-)

League of Venice Internal Affairs Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13672598#post13672598). This is part factbook, part internal affairs thread, actually.

LoV members: We need to decide on a flag, perhaps? Or maybe a coat of arms? I dunno, some sort of symbol. Also, if there's any information you want changed regarding your nation, please specify in a TG with me as to keep the OOC clutter out of the thread :-) I'll be putting up the history shortly.

Also, mods, could you please replace the current LoV link in the IC thread with this one? Thanks; you're brilliant.

...

Hey, now this is the sort of country that I was hoping would pop up- this is honestly a dream come true.

Now, of course, Austria-Moorington is ready to go that extra mile, hell, make that 10 miles, to make sure that your regime stays in power in so much it has the majority of the support of the white settlers (Afrikaners?). A paradox, one might assume, but the government in Vienna (especially Bismarck) will want free and 'open' elections in so far as the 'colonials' aren't granted even marginal voting rights.

Hopefully, some sort of deal can be set up, where we arrange for Moorish and Austrian troops to be sent down to start 're-colonizing' Africa- which would give you the added benefit of 75,000 heavily armed whites to make sure the colonials don't think about getting out of hand and the political legitimacy that could cure all sorts of problems.

Of course, there is that sticky 'German' issue, Germans of the Eastern Kingdom after all make up a sizeable majority of the population (but all people [Europeans] are created equal in the sight of the Lord, our God) but do have some power sharing deals made with the Moors (the Europeans population that replaced, somewhat, the Hungarians) so you shouldn't consider this Austria entirely in the same league as you would normally. Besides, can't the French and Dutch give up their 'dreams' for a liberated France and Holland in exchange for the cure-all that my support (along with, nomially at any rate, the whole League's) entails?


Moorington - you better stay out of South-East Asia. The only one everyone hates is Pyeki so he's the only one we'd do nothing about. Although an invasion would result in doubled border security.

*Covers maps*

Erm, yes, of course.

India won't like you Bungussi-Djanvallaland. In fact, its unlikely we'll trade with you much, play sport with you etc. as what happened to South Africa - though we not that moral, so we'll probs at least take your most valuable resources, though officially I'd be "cold".

Before you go all, "my government's moral! Not like every administration in real life!" remember that we have oil, gas, uranium, gold, copper, and timber amongst other resources, and a per capita GDP that's actually about the global average (in other words, several times Africa's usual)... but then, yeah, the government's still violently racist.

hehehe....

I have oil, gas, gold, copper, tin, timber and gypsum among a wealth of other resources. There is no way you can compete because your government is all racist and mine is not. We have three ethnic groups so it is kind of hard to be racist without riots. A lot of riots.

bumping this earth to the front page again!

I'll be posting more actions tommorrow.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556102

Factbook for Bungussi and Djanvallaland.

You'll notice that, since its creation in the early 1970s, the Republic has practiced racial apartheid. This is not in keeping with my own views, but that shouldn't matter for the purposes of RP.

With the exception of Germany, the Republic wishes to maintain relations with most western nations, so I'd like to hear from other players on what their nations think of us. Did you cut ties when we declared independence (from France, mainly) and refused to recognise German sovereignty in France and the Netherlands? Later, when we refused to lift the racial divide? Only when international pressure forced you to? Or not at all?

Not at all. The Walloons in Belgium weren't pleased with the German occupation of France, and the Flemish weren't pleased with the German occupation of the Netherlands. So we're natural friends.

Good Day :D

I was just wondering if you were looking for any new players, I looked at the map and noticed Zims is still available as is Zambia and Malawi would it possible that I could claim them?

Ah, this is most encouraging!

Also a little disturbing that so many are willing to conduct relations with an openly racist state, but we'll ignore that, for now...

So, if we get on with Corbournne and Moorington, our Scouts can get to running about the bush with FN and Steyr weapons. And I was worried we'd be stuck with MAS-49s or something.

You'll probably be able to work with Kircher's government, Moorington. I'll try to get an introduction RP up soon.

And if this Rhodesian fella gets a claim off the ground, presumably we've got another ally.

Man, ESR is a bad place for people who have an interest in basic human rights, eh?

All right, for the record, the Republic will trade on some level with just about anyone who isn't known to be actively supporting, "black terrorists" as our government refers to anyone who in any way threatens their interests. It would even be possible for Germany to do some business so long as it's through middle men or otherwise under the table. After thirty-odd years of apartheid, the establishment is very concerned that it might be losing its grip.

Agh! I'm cluttering this. Bungussi-Djanvallaland away!

Yeah I woud hypothetically be an ally there mate. Im hoping to represent the struggling tenous white regime in the Cenral African federation ( the parrellel scenario being that the tiny white regimes in Zambia and Malawi didnt relent to Black opposition and joined the Rhodesian heartland looking to instill anglo- boer civilization into the black heart of Africa.)

XD ( sorry about the rant, i love R.Ping bad guys)

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The main reason why Austria-Moorington has issues with human rights, it because honestly, Europeans are 'more' than human, or at the very least more human the savages romping about Africa. :)

Well this is sure a turn for the better, with all these ["racist"] properly moral countries popping up in Africa, then I won't even need to declare war, or even seem imperialistic when I send my 'peacekeepers' over to help quell the terrorists- we all know that that strategy has been tried, perfected, and implemented in the RL; at the very least this means, now, that most of Drekcsler's less rhetoric filled speeches are already made for me by a crack team of specialists. All I need to do is Google 'Bush speeches.'

Well I think I'm going to invade Slovenia, so if someone would like to RP the resistance, then that'd be just great. Not that it'd be much of a fight, but at the very least it'd easy my conscience.

Why invade Croatia? You already control it.

Why invade Croatia? You already control it.

Damn communists! Editing my posts. ;)

Mein Gott, I'm bad at country names.

To whomever is in charge of the map now:

On the current map, Sicily, Sardinia, and Crete are gray, when they should be colored blue as parts of Italy and Greece, respectively.

Molto Grazie.

EDIT: Also, I believe Corsica is a territory of France.

To be honest, I'd bet on Slovenia kicking your arse. You'll get into the mountains, then suddenly it'll be night, or a snow-storm, and Slovenian night-vision technology (better than yours, FACT) comes in, and suddenly your armour has been shot to pieces.

Everyone's invading little NPC nations. Have some balls, people. Invade a country 300% bigger than you... like I did.

Seriously, though, the Austrians against Slovenia is no foregone conclusion. Slovenia might win. Slovenia beat the rest of Yugoslavia, and Yugoslavia would kick the ever living shit out of the Austrian Empire, sooo....

I'd play them, but I don't have enough time, what with Pyeki and all. It's just that if someone else does it, and Moorington wins easily, I'll protest. Invading Slovenia is a bad idea.

Seriously, though, the Austrians against Slovenia is no foregone conclusion. Slovenia might win. Slovenia beat the rest of Yugoslavia, and Yugoslavia would kick the ever living shit out of the Austrian Empire, sooo....


Sooo... it's a good thing Austria has allies.

Not stating anything specific; just sayin' ;-)

BUMP!

Also, can I claim Algeria, Niger and Chad?

Sooo... it's a good thing Austria has allies.

Not stating anything specific; just sayin' ;-)

Yes, BUT...

Well, I just want to inject a little realism. The invasion of Luxembourg by Greal's Germany would have bankrupted numerous influential people in other western countries. Nobody seems to care. Not realistic... get on it, people!

Likewise, the invasion of Slovenia... Slovenia is a pro-market capitalist democracy. It has a western-European level of prosperity. Billions of dollars are tied-up there. Somebody in your government is going to react negatively. Be realistic, or Pyeki is going to march through Asia and kick Europe's God-modding ass, okay?

Seriously, get with it, or we'll kill you all.

Still looking for someone to play the Cyprus government... the invasion is going to be started very very soon...

And for those of you who are concerned at all, my roleplaying the actions of the terrorists is not god-moding... it will be made clear very soon, so just hold tight. It is all part of a very elaborate plan to get more power/control/respect in the ME/Med region

Can every one check their factbooks please I left a few messages around.

@ Candistan: Can you check your telegram box?

Still looking for someone to play the Cyprus government... the invasion is going to be started very very soon...

And for those of you who are concerned at all, my roleplaying the actions of the terrorists is not god-moding... it will be made clear very soon, so just hold tight. It is all part of a very elaborate plan to get more power/control/respect in the ME/Med region

Cyprus is under Turkish influence. Full stop. I hate to do this mate, but If you invade I will consider this a official act of war declaration of war and WILL send troops to protect Cyprus.

EDIT: I know they carried out the terror attacks against you. I know that but Cyprus has been part of Turkey for so long as has a friendly relationship with us.

Cyprus is it's own separate country. It has never, and will never, be a part of Turkey. In RL, there is only a small section that is controlled by Turkish separatists and recognized in RL ONLY by Turkey, not the world at large. With suspension of disbelief, Cyprus is it's own separate entity and has never been a part of Turkey. Also, you have no relations with them. To say that you do to step in front of my nation is god-moding because I have not seen any RP negotiation between your government and that of Cyprus.

So no, there is no full stop. Don't ever try and control my RPs like that again. I AM going to invade, and if you care to try and stop me, you are invited to try. Currently, I am allied with Animarnia, who is allied with Amazonia I believe. And I'm working something out with ka-Spel. If you want to go up against all that combined firepower, be my guest. I'll enjoy running your nation into the ground.

Xaristan the thing is, Mussleburgh only claimed one country. Could he not submit a claim for Cyprus and/or its two republic(s)? Would that not make Cyprus apart of him without any negotiations?

Can every one check their factbooks please I left a few messages around.

Responded.

BUMP!

Also, can I claim Algeria, Niger and Chad?

Prove to me that you can RP well and I'll let you.

Can every one check their factbooks please I left a few messages around.

@ Candistan: Can you check your telegram box?

I responded to it, you'll like it.

Yes, BUT...

Well, I just want to inject a little realism. The invasion of Luxembourg by Greal's Germany would have bankrupted numerous influential people in other western countries. Nobody seems to care. Not realistic... get on it, people!

Likewise, the invasion of Slovenia... Slovenia is a pro-market capitalist democracy. It has a western-European level of prosperity. Billions of dollars are tied-up there. Somebody in your government is going to react negatively. Be realistic, or Pyeki is going to march through Asia and kick Europe's God-modding ass, okay?

Seriously, get with it, or we'll kill you all.

I would ask that you refrain from telling me where my money is tied up. To refresh your memory, I have control of Switzerland - you know, the country with the most stable economy on the planet in which every western nation has money invested in it. And invasion of Slovenia wouldn't financially ruin my nation in the slightest.

And besides, I'm not invading Slovenia. I'm just implying that Slovenia's military might in this situation isn't exactly all-encompassing.

Xaristan the thing is, Mussleburgh only claimed one country. Could he not submit a claim for Cyprus and/or its two republic(s)? Would that not make Cyprus apart of him without any negotiations?

Well, I believe for the purposes of this RP, Cyprus is just one country. So yes, he could claim Cyprus since he only claimed one, however I would protest to the mods as it would be a pretty dick move with him knowing that I am already gunning for it and having put in a lot of effort with backstory and planning and such. I mean, what's next? He claims Lebanon because they are attacking me too simply because he wants everyone to be friends in the Med? No thanks, come again.

Also, if he claims Cyprus, the terrorist groups have already been confirmed to come from Cyprus. I'm not going to change my RP simply because he doesn't like the direction it's going in. So, IF he claims Cyprus, it would be HIS nation about to be under attack since it is HIS nation now harboring "terrorists."

Then again, if he wants to make it that easy for us, he's free to do so.

Not sure about the formalities of 'Claiming', but I suppose I'd like to take the following...

Spain
Portugal

and!!!

Morocco

*Cha cha dance*

EDIT:

On second thought, what's the status of Iceland/Denmark/Dominican Republic?

And, if so such claim is claimable, are you guys considering Greenland [which is hardly populated in real life anyways >.>.. <.<] as a part of the Danish claim?

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I have no doubt that in a tactical sense, the Slovenians are almost a (if not an exact) match for the Austrian-Moorish forces; they have a solid assortment of vehicles, a professional army that is known throughout the world for having a high degree of military elan and will likely be man-for-man, better then (at least on a NCO level) better than my dear Moors. Of course, not to mention the general populance will be all to eager to -once again- take up the sword to a foriegn oppressor; helped in no small part by the avaliability of quality weapons that are in some ways a toe ahead of Austrian contemperaries. Indeed, I make no conclusions about any stand up fights between us, especially considering they will likely flee to prepared entrenchments and cities from the getgo.

That being said, the Austrian airforce is by and far, leagues ahead of Slovenia's- they have an assortment of what, training aircraft? While I, on the other hand, posess a wide assortment of the best aircraft can buy; air superiority will, of course, be one of the deciding factors for any extended stay in a hostile country. Yes, Slovenia possesses a good assortment of Surface-to-Air missles, but (if I may be so bold) nothing the Typhoon or Draken will have too much difficulty handling. Indeed, unless Russia decides to send their latest (if not prototype) SAMs their way, I doubt more then half a dozen fixed winged aircraft will be shot down.

Also, while Slovenia does posess 'solid' vehicles and armaments, they honestly have nothing that can compare to the Ulan or Leopard. Likely the hammer and anvil of my attack. That, of course, does not mention the American howizters, or the PzH 2000'S that Italy (or Germany) would (hopefully) lend me for this excursion- arguably the best self-propelled howizter in the world.

If that doesn't cement it, we will have Italian support from the sea, whose navy and navy aircraft will lend considerable support to our land operations.

So, while Slovenia does have a tactical superiority, on paper; they will likely find themselves all to overmatched by the smaller, but more skilled and equipped, Austria-Moorington army as the Slovenian generals watch as their magnificient armored and rifle divisons are torn apart by a beatiful symphony of controlled bombardment; interspread with the odd armored blitz reminiscient of the Second World War.

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Since when has the existence of capital, of yours or other people's, in another country ever been a deterrent to invasion? Indeed, Germany's largest trade partners before both World Wars was France, Britain and the Soviet Union/Russia.

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We have yet to discuss my participation in an invasion of Slovenia in detail. Please don't offer my naval support until I have agreed to it. You haven't been online in ages, hop on AIM, and we'll talk about it.

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Ausland appeared, claimed, and disappeared. Honestly, this would be the first time we nudged someone off the claims list due to inactivity- so I would wait until an opinion comes down unto us from the most high. (Amazonian Beasts)

I would say just use your first claim; of course, if Denmark is just too much...

I don't really know if Denmark gets Greenland thrown in the mix- half of me says yes, and the other, no, so sorry- you must await a second ruling from the most high.

Well, I wouldn't see what great advantage having it would put me at.. being a good 8-15% of it is Hospitable :-P.

I wouldn't mind the first claim my self, just I'd feel 'more at home' with the 'second' claim I proposed.

Well, I wouldn't see what great advantage having it would put me at.. being a good 8-15% of it is Hospitable :-P.

Exactly what I think, but Ausland did claim it like a seperate entity, sort of muddling things for me.

[QUOTE=Candistan;13677826]Prove to me that you can RP well and I'll let you.

How exactly can I do that? ಠ_ಠ (Not meaning to be rude)

Well, I believe for the purposes of this RP, Cyprus is just one country. So yes, he could claim Cyprus since he only claimed one, however I would protest to the mods as it would be a pretty dick move with him knowing that I am already gunning for it and having put in a lot of effort with backstory and planning and such. I mean, what's next? He claims Lebanon because they are attacking me too simply because he wants everyone to be friends in the Med? No thanks, come again.

Also, if he claims Cyprus, the terrorist groups have already been confirmed to come from Cyprus. I'm not going to change my RP simply because he doesn't like the direction it's going in. So, IF he claims Cyprus, it would be HIS nation about to be under attack since it is HIS nation now harboring "terrorists."

Then again, if he wants to make it that easy for us, he's free to do so.

I will not claim it but check my history in my factbook.

EDIT. BTW I didn't just edit it in.

Well, I believe for the purposes of this RP, Cyprus is just one country. So yes, he could claim Cyprus since he only claimed one, however I would protest to the mods as it would be a pretty dick move with him knowing that I am already gunning for it and having put in a lot of effort with backstory and planning and such. I mean, what's next? He claims Lebanon because they are attacking me too simply because he wants everyone to be friends in the Med? No thanks, come again.

Also, if he claims Cyprus, the terrorist groups have already been confirmed to come from Cyprus. I'm not going to change my RP simply because he doesn't like the direction it's going in. So, IF he claims Cyprus, it would be HIS nation about to be under attack since it is HIS nation now harboring "terrorists."

Then again, if he wants to make it that easy for us, he's free to do so.

Check my history. It makes everything clear.

Responded (positively) to Mussleburgh's post in my factbook.

Also, Moorington, though I was quite drunk last night and could have made that post rather better, I was really just trying to say that I have a problem with trigger-happy invasions of NPC nations as if they're all but blank slates and completely friendless. People in your nation may lose investments et cetera, they may not, but people in other nations will, and nobody ever seems to kick up a fuss. I'm sat here with Pyeki trying to figure out from where my modern capital injections are coming in order that my army be something other than a WWII relic, and other nations are happy to cut trade ties with this potential huge market and exporter, and invade that wealthy republic, and so on, as if their economic situation is set in stone.

When Pyeki does something that makes questionable economic sense, it's because we're ruled by a secretive military junta concerned chiefly with political control at home. When a market economy and/or multi-party democracy does something drastic, it has to make a degree of sense.

But I'm rambling, I think it's because I'm still quite badly hungover.

Check my history. It makes everything clear.

That is one of the biggest fucking god-mods I've ever seen.

1) You can't RP your history that specifically with an NPC nation. You don't own it, therefore it's history is pretty much the same as RL. Check past Earths for precedence to this (ex. Last Earth I was in I played an NPC North Korea and Kim Jong Il... leader, government, everything, EXACTLY the same.)

2) You are RPing my government's relation to you. Major fucking no-no. Especially with these lines. "Mussleburgh has always had bad relations with everyone else in the Mediterranean, especially Xaristan, their have been a number of confrontations between Mussleburgh and Xaristan. A freedom fighter organization has been striking at the Xaristan to the governments disapproval. Though some say the government is funding the organization." Check my factbook. We have NO, I repeat, NO diplomatic relations or ties to you. None, nunca, niet, nien. Nothing. So you can't say that we've had bad relations, because that's god-modding MY country, something that I will simply not tolerate.

3) You cannot god-mod my RP into your history. You have no idea where those "terrorists" are coming from or who they are funded by. Want to know why? Because I haven't revealed it yet. It's a plot I'm working very hard to make believable and plausible, dropping small hint after small hint, and you are god-modding your way into fucking it up. No more.

Consider this my formal complaint to the moderators of this Earth to have you stop god-modding or leave the game.

I have no doubt that in a tactical sense, the Slovenians are almost a (if not an exact) match for the Austrian-Moorish forces; they have a solid assortment of vehicles, a professional army that is known throughout the world for having a high degree of military elan and will likely be man-for-man, better then (at least on a NCO level) better than my dear Moors. Of course, not to mention the general populance will be all to eager to -once again- take up the sword to a foriegn oppressor; helped in no small part by the avaliability of quality weapons that are in some ways a toe ahead of Austrian contemperaries. Indeed, I make no conclusions about any stand up fights between us, especially considering they will likely flee to prepared entrenchments and cities from the getgo.

That being said, the Austrian airforce is by and far, leagues ahead of Slovenia's- they have an assortment of what, training aircraft? While I, on the other hand, posess a wide assortment of the best aircraft can buy; air superiority will, of course, be one of the deciding factors for any extended stay in a hostile country. Yes, Slovenia possesses a good assortment of Surface-to-Air missles, but (if I may be so bold) nothing the Typhoon or Draken will have too much difficulty handling. Indeed, unless Russia decides to send their latest (if not prototype) SAMs their way, I doubt more then half a dozen fixed winged aircraft will be shot down.

Also, while Slovenia does posess 'solid' vehicles and armaments, they honestly have nothing that can compare to the Ulan or Leopard. Likely the hammer and anvil of my attack. That, of course, does not mention the American howizters, or the PzH 2000'S that Italy (or Germany) would (hopefully) lend me for this excursion- arguably the best self-propelled howizter in the world.

If that doesn't cement it, we will have Italian support from the sea, whose navy and navy aircraft will lend considerable support to our land operations.

So, while Slovenia does have a tactical superiority, on paper; they will likely find themselves all to overmatched by the smaller, but more skilled and equipped, Austria-Moorington army as the Slovenian generals watch as their magnificient armored and rifle divisons are torn apart by a beatiful symphony of controlled bombardment; interspread with the odd armored blitz reminiscient of the Second World War.



Since when has the existence of capital, of yours or other people's, in another country ever been a deterrent to invasion? Indeed, Germany's largest trade partners before both World Wars was France, Britain and the Soviet Union/Russia.

I'll be happy to lend you some, and even help invade Slovenia. :D

van der Snippet

:( No blind loyalty to The Cause? I'll jump on later today/tonight, and hopefully we can work something out.

Snippet von Snippet

:D Happens to the best of us, indeed, you are quite legible when drunk- I have known a few people to be almost completely... Entertaining, but not as informative when posting.

I don't expect the Austrian-Moorish economy to flourish much longer, while we do have quite a lot of high tech manufactering, whose demand is likely not to lessen unless nuclear apocolypse occurs tomorrow, a sizeable portion of our economy is service based. I doubt that with this latest spat of aggression that too many people are going to be spending, not that Europeans are known for spending their money, or really doing anything but shoving it under the matress.

Of course, all in the name of The Cause! If rationing needs to be implemented, then so be it, the will of The People will not be bowed by some minor economic woes.

I'll be happy to lend you some, and even help invade Slovenia. :D

That would be the epic win of the century; I think it'd be fitting if the Großdeutschland Division was sent along, with the leased PzH's, for a solid thrust from the north?

You people are certainly "uniting" Europe, but I'm not really sure your way is very benefical to Europe as a whole. Pyeki is right, all these countries being invaded would make Europe, especially its economy, unstable (apart from in Switzerland). The good thing about my claim is at least I don't have to be desperate to expand - I have enough people and land to manage as it is and the only freed up to take around me is Afganistan!

That is one of the biggest fucking god-mods I've ever seen.

1) You can't RP your history that specifically with an NPC nation. You don't own it, therefore it's history is pretty much the same as RL. Check past Earths for precedence to this (ex. Last Earth I was in I played an NPC North Korea and Kim Jong Il... leader, government, everything, EXACTLY the same.)

2) You are RPing my government's relation to you. Major fucking no-no. Especially with these lines. "Mussleburgh has always had bad relations with everyone else in the Mediterranean, especially Xaristan, their have been a number of confrontations between Mussleburgh and Xaristan. A freedom fighter organization has been striking at the Xaristan to the governments disapproval. Though some say the government is funding the organization." Check my factbook. We have NO, I repeat, NO diplomatic relations or ties to you. None, nunca, niet, nien. Nothing. So you can't say that we've had bad relations, because that's god-modding MY country, something that I will simply not tolerate.

3) You cannot god-mod my RP into your history. You have no idea where those "terrorists" are coming from or who they are funded by. Want to know why? Because I haven't revealed it yet. It's a plot I'm working very hard to make believable and plausible, dropping small hint after small hint, and you are god-modding your way into fucking it up. No more.

Consider this my formal complaint to the moderators of this Earth to have you stop god-modding or leave the game.

Ok if thats how you feel I will delete my history, stop god modding, stop RPing your government for you and will put into my history that I have neutral relations with everyone on this site up until this point. If the people think I should I will happily resign from this site. I will also offer to support your invasion of Cyprus.
HOWEVER
I will not do it until I get at least one mod and two other peoples opinion.
Does that suit you? I am incrediblely sorry if in any way I offended you, wasted your time or annoyed anyone on this site in the slightest.

SNIP EDIT:

Instead of double posting!

How about I just stick to Spain/Portugal/Morocco then? [Including their respective Islands, of course :-P.]

I think the problem here is that Xaristan doesn't like the fact that you have written their has been confrontation between your two nations. Whilst you should consult on that and Mussle was "in the wrong" I guess, Mussleburg can of course say he doesn't like your nation even if you don't have strong opinions towards him, though as that would make little sense you can arrange for it to be a mutual dislike (like the poor relations between Pyeki and...everyone in South Asia ;)). There is no need to overreact for such a simple issue that most people in this RP have encountered.

I think the problem here is that Xaristan doesn't like the fact that you have written their has been confrontation between your two nations. Whilst you should consult on that and Mussle was "in the wrong" I guess, Mussleburg can of course say he doesn't like your nation even if you don't have strong opinions towards him, though as that would make little sense you can arrange for it to be a mutual dislike (like the poor relations between Pyeki and...everyone in South Asia ;)). There is no need to overreact for such a simple issue that most people in this RP have encountered.

Thank you I think that could be done. What do you think Xaristan?

I think the problem here is that Xaristan doesn't like the fact that you have written their has been confrontation between your two nations. Whilst you should consult on that and Mussle was "in the wrong" I guess, Mussleburg can of course say he doesn't like your nation even if you don't have strong opinions towards him, though as that would make little sense you can arrange for it to be a mutual dislike (like the poor relations between Pyeki and...everyone in South Asia ;)). There is no need to overreact for such a simple issue that most people in this RP have encountered.

Relations with Pyeki could go either way for me at this point, really. I have his Government-in-Exile being examined and either I will end up supporting them or they will be traded off to Pyeki for recognition.

Mussel can say whatever he wants about my nation. My stance stands as before. I have no diplomatic contacts with him. Therefore, his nation could explode tomorrow and I wouldn't really care. IC, I have no issue, though there will become one should the IC Mussel try to stop the invasion. OOC, I have a major problem with him, for completely disregarding rules governing NPC nations and god-modding my country.

So, no, for the time being, my country doesn't give a rat's ass about his, and that's not meant in a mean way. We just frankly couldn't care less what is going on by the Black Sea, because, frankly, it means nothing to us. What does matter to us is that some terrorists are attacking our nation and killing our citizens and they are based in Cyprus and Lebanon. Adding "history" to a factbook to try and stop me from invading is a very, very dick move.

So, to reiterate, ICly, my country doesn't care about Mussel. OOC, well, completely different story. The invasion will proceed as planned as soon as someone plays the NPC Cyprus gov. ka-Spel and I are waiting.

On that note... someone needs to play the NPC Cyprus gov.

Mussel can say whatever he wants about my nation. My stance stands as before. I have no diplomatic contacts with him. Therefore, his nation could explode tomorrow and I wouldn't really care. IC, I have no issue, though there will become one should the IC Mussel try to stop the invasion. OOC, I have a major problem with him, for completely disregarding rules governing NPC nations and god-modding my country.

So, no, for the time being, my country doesn't give a rat's ass about his, and that's not meant in a mean way. We just frankly couldn't care less what is going on by the Black Sea, because, frankly, it means nothing to us. What does matter to us is that some terrorists are attacking our nation and killing our citizens and they are based in Cyprus and Lebanon. Adding "history" to a factbook to try and stop me from invading is a very, very dick move.

So, to reiterate, ICly, my country doesn't care about Mussel. OOC, well, completely different story. The invasion will proceed as planned as soon as someone plays the NPC Cyprus gov. ka-Spel and I are waiting.

On that note... someone needs to play the NPC Cyprus gov.

Cool. Again I am sorry for clearly braking the rules I will post that a few of my population that have family there are upset but other than that I don't mind what you do. I will delete my history and am so sorry to cause such inconvenience.

The invasion will proceed as planned as soon as someone plays the NPC Cyprus gov. ka-Spel and I are waiting.

On that note... someone needs to play the NPC Cyprus gov.

I shall RP Cyprus for you guys. It seems interesting enough with its history of wanting to be part of Greece.

You're thinking Crete, Uiri, but you can play Cyrpus. Just brush up on their government/military stuff... I'll post here when the invasion starts. Should be in a day or two.

Xaristan, please contact me via AIM (Dax In Dementia) as soon as possible.

You're thinking Crete, Uiri, but you can play Cyrpus. Just brush up on their government/military stuff... I'll post here when the invasion starts. Should be in a day or two.

Uhhh...no, I'm not. Look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enosis) for what I'm talking about. Cyprus fought for Britain in both World Wars under promises of union with Greece. Crete is already part of Greece.

Learn something new everyday.

Since Britain has some sizeable bases on Cyprus, will (s)he wake up and send some kind of signals our way?

SNIP EDIT:

Instead of double posting!

How about I just stick to Spain/Portugal/Morocco then? [Including their respective Islands, of course :-P.]

Sure, Kampfers left. Their yours.

Since Britain has some sizeable bases on Cyprus, will (s)he wake up and send some kind of signals our way?

Wandy is dealing with the same predicament I am: AP tests. I'll try to be on more but i can't guarantee much 'till after this upcoming week.

On another note, AB and I will probably redo the IC thread so its less full of crap. We'll make a links thread so you can just put all relevant OOC/IC/SIC threads in there. In fact, if any of you guys want to go ahead and make the links one right now, I would greatly appreciate it.

S'pose that's up to Britain. But Xaristan is coordinating an invasion on Cyprus with Mediterranean aid.I'm not sure if Britain will have anything to say about it. No one's heard from Wunderjar since he claimed Canada, Ireland, and England; he hasn't even made a Factbook, so I'm not sure if he's still around.

Relations with Pyeki could go either way for me at this point, really. I have his Government-in-Exile being examined and either I will end up supporting them or they will be traded off to Pyeki for recognition.

Ahh, I was wondering what you were doing, there. I've not had time to deal with it, having little time to spare at the moment, but at first I thought you'd misunderstood what I meant by government-in-exile. Makes much more sense, now. That sort of underhanded scheming is exactly the sort of thing that will win the Pyekan junta's respect ;)

wow, back from Turkey and i've missed alot! Need to catch up here, any important news? This is what I have heard:

Honako's president was killed?
An invasion of Cyprus?
An invasion of Slovenia?

is that all? If you could give me a quick bit of information, I would be glad

whats the score, do you reckon I should start an R.P to kick off claim? (those Claims being Zimbabwe, Zambia and Malawi)

wow, back from Turkey and i've missed alot! Need to catch up here, any important news? This is what I have heard:

Honako's president was killed?
An invasion of Cyprus?
An invasion of Slovenia?

is that all? If you could give me a quick bit of information, I would be glad

Erm, my Prime Minister was not killed. However, some rather small islands of mine nearby where invaded and me and Pyeki are currently engaged in a "skirmish" you could say for them. You should be fulfilling your promise to "kill him"!

Just want to let everyone know I am still here :) just majorly busy

Honako, you said that you'd like to support the SLM within my nation, you still wanna do that because I'm gonna put it into my story.

sorry, Honako, i'll get on that, if you have the link. Oddly, however, I read somewhere that Indra Patel (your PM?) passed away.

anything going on?

Well, I'd like to get someone to play Chile for a takeover. Maybe Paraguay and Bolivia too, depending on what my neighbors Buddha C and... hey. Where's Akimonad? Was he deleted from this Earth? The map doesn't say so.

The map on the first page is pretty outdated; Akimonad left a while ago; his countries are up for grabs and currently NPC.

OK then. Now I need Buddha C's blessing.

Anyone interested in RPing for Chile? (I assume I could take Chile without Buddha).

kenavt - have you been paying any attention to whats going on at all? Let me tell you what is new, since you haven't been reading the thread.

Peru, Bolivia and Chile are claimed.

Buddha C and Akimonad left.

The new map hasn't been uploaded to the first page.

kenavt - have you been paying any attention to whats going on at all? Let me tell you what is new, since you haven't been reading the thread.

Peru, Bolivia and Chile are claimed.

Buddha C and Akimonad left.

The new map hasn't been uploaded to the first page.

Sorry. The posts have been racking up since I last checked a couple of days ago-since I missed a couple of days last week.

Is it possible for me to have Nepal or is it taken? I know i'm late but i'd like to join.

Is it possible for me to have Nepal or is it taken? I know i'm late but i'd like to join.

Confirmed.

In lieu of Wanderjar's absence, I'd be willing to trade Belgium for Britain to keep the RP moving. (I'd still go to war with Greal over an invasion of Belgium, so that could spark some activity, too.)

has TIS started an invasion of the gulf states yet?

This earth seems a bit dead at the moment, and no one has done much of anything. I suspect it has a lot to do with the students having exams this week, and things should be back to normal activity once they're through.

I hope so, I'm bored

Armed confrontation between two nations that, between them, contain substantially more than a quarter of the world's population counts as quiet? I wouldn't like to live in a neighbourhood you guys consider loud :)

Sorry, I've been having exams, and activity is going to be quite low in the next few, well, weeks.

don't worry, when TIS makes his move things are gonna heat up in the Mid East :D

In lieu of Wanderjar's absence, I'd be willing to trade Belgium for Britain to keep the RP moving. (I'd still go to war with Greal over an invasion of Belgium, so that could spark some activity, too.)

I'll ask him next time I talk to him. As soon as AB gets back things will get faster, he just has a lot of tests.

don't worry, when TIS makes his move things are gonna heat up in the Mid East :D

:D

i will invade bahrain soon in a few days, unfortunately i am very busy. I am actually afraid of you, Animarnia ;), and I am sure that I wont stand a chance against anyone else. Honako, I hope you back me up, I will attack Pyeki once I find an excuse to. (no hard feelings, pyeki)

I've got an idea that can keep people occupid for the moment. I'm not going to invade a country or nation. What would you think of an RPG when Earth is threaten by an Alien Race? The Technology will be between 2050 and 2100. If people like then I might start it.

None taken, TIs. Intervention by a foreign power will only strengthen militant propaganda in the Empire, especially if it's a little one the junta really isn't scared of, such as yours... It's just a shame that we lack the force projection capacity to come over there and annihilate your civilisation ;)

Will be off for a couple of days have not quit be back soon.

I'm planning an invasion of Belgium, but it will take some time, I'm looking at maps, and bridges, and cities.

Altlands would like to claim Papau new Guinea And the Solomon Islands if not taken.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/australia/papua_newguinea_pol89.jpg

So, is this officially dead or what?

Damn... and just as I was about to make a claim... blast.

I think it's getting close.

By the way, I'd like to invade some NPC in South America, but I'm not sure of the claims in the region.

i could invade Belgium to give the ESR one last boast of activity.

Sounds good.... maybe we just need to wait though. Or would we be waiting for weeks?

tis not dead; just people are busy with exams. give it another week or so and activity will pick back up again most likely. I'm still waiting on TIS to make a move before I can counter it which is why I'm holding on my invasion of Lebenon; every earth has its period of 'near death' if we all don't abandon it then we'll get through it and be all the better for it.

Kroando, if you want to make a claim then please feel free to; most claims should be on the front page; but not all of them would have been transfered to the map yet; though if you search a few pages back someone was kind enough to act as map updater with the loss of Kampfers

Hi,Greal are you guys accepting new players?

Well then... how about Nigeria, Cameroon and Gabon?

Hi,Greal are you guys accepting new players?

Yes, though I think we may need a new thread, that way someone can update the list of nations.

Well then... how about Nigeria, Cameroon and Gabon?

Gabon's taken (it's part of Bungussi and Djanvallaland, along with Equatorial Guinea and R.Congo), but so far as I know the other two are okay.

I'd be glad to gain a new neighbour. Nobody seems to care about our harsh apartheid rule or our on-going bush war with African nationalist and Marxist rebels.

(Hint to anyone else who wants to get into some RP, there! Bungussi and Djanvallaland needs friends abroad, and deserves enemies!)

Yes, though I think we may need a new thread, that way someone can update the list of nations.

Seems like that wouldn't hurt. Even if AB comes back he's going to have a mountain of posts to search through, and a challenge to figure out who's acted on their claims and who hasn't.

I wouldn't like this earth to die. Pyeki fits into it too well, and I don't want to have to reshape it again for another world or whatever. I think we've got some potentially interesting power balances, especially in Asia.

Come on, who's got free time now, even if some people are temporarily busy? We should do something while they're away. If it keeps the world alive, I'm willing to get Pyeki into bigger trouble than we can handle. Whatever.

Should we grant provisional approval to new players, until the founder players get back?

Altlands' claim is only small, and poor, and it's mostly going to effect me, and I don't mind. We could make an RP of that: the Pyekan-Kuogu could try to annex Altlands, or prevent the creation of his state, as we did (without success) in the 1960s with Indochina and the FSS, making it clear that the new Emperor is determined to conquer SE Asia, and everyone else would be forced to pick sides, or try appeasement once again ;)

Pyeki, I claimed that you were giving supplies to the Pirates/Terrorists attacking Socotra, which is my territory. You could RP them if you want, the person who wanted to hasn't replied yet.

I think we have a pretty hostile view of your nation (well, half way between hostile and patronisingly dismissive ;) ), so that might be possible. We've learned about state sponsorship of terrorism from the Indians, of all people.

lol, I will get a thread started soon, if I have time.

So yesterday I spent 4 hours writing 18 pages on devolution, the house of lords, codified constitutions, alternative dispute resolution, juries, the seperation of powers, and police powers.

And I have a nice, long, lazy holiday to RP in E:SR with :D

I have lots of free time, but I don't think I'd be able to keep up with the responsibility of moding this Earth, frankly. But, I really do not want this earth to die.

I'm wondering how many people are still around here, and if those people would be open to creating another, similarly-styled earth, as even the mods seem to be gone or given up at this point.

You could do it offsite. :D

I'm willing to make it. And appoint you admin :D

I'd be down for it.

I'd be down for that, Greal.

Actually, Pyeki and I have been discussing making another Earth as well. Want to combine forces and let me in on it? Just a thought. :D

If it was on here... or if you guys want to send me an in-game PM about where it's going to be, I'll gladly come along and be a part of this little shindig.

I'm in

Actually, Pyeki and I have been discussing making another Earth as well. Want to combine forces and let me in on it? Just a thought. :D

Where the heck have you been, anyway?

I wouldn't mind merging me and Greal/you and Pyeki's earths, though. Greal mentioned doing it offsite; do we want to do it offsite or on here?

Where the heck have you been, anyway?

I wouldn't mind merging me and Greal/you and Pyeki's earths, though. Greal mentioned doing it offsite; do we want to do it offsite or on here?

First off, I had internet problems - the folks I was leeching off of moved away, leaving me in a bind. After unsuccessful hacking attempts I threw in the towel and began paying for internet, only to find that this Earth was pretty much dead and gone.

Which brings me to my second point: my planning with Pyeki has gone pretty much like this so far.

Me: Want to help me create a new Earth?
Him/Her (don't know which): Sure, why not? *offers a few suggestions*

And that's it. We're still very much in the planning stages. I had a few ideas for what to do differently that we can discuss; I sent those same ideas to Pyeki only to find that the NationStates website had gone down while I was typing. (Is this a problem everyone's having, or is it just me?)

Oh, and offsite sounds good to me, I guess. Helps keep things organized.

i'm not one of you four, but I have been thinking about an offsite RP. I can't really trust Jolt with it...

I'm making the forums.

I was sending this to DPW as a telegram in reply to his last message, but I suppose I may as well just modify it for general consumption and post here...

I was saying that yeah, I think perhaps a strict three nation limit can be restrictive, especially if we're basing economies on the nations that ours replace. Once the biggest and richest nations are claimed, other people trying to get involved are left with the Central African Republic, Chad, and Niger, and can't make other nations listen to them at all.

Perhaps we should have some sort of unwritten rules involving good-faith and Mod/community approval. Maybe as a guide three nations (that aren't the USA, China, and India, for example) but with room for exceptions, especially when picking small or poor nations.

I would prefer, for example, that if a player wants the Horn of Africa, he not be forced to pick Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia, only to invade Djibouti as his first RP and just annex it out of hand. Better they be able to claim that fourth nation than have everyone annexing tiny countries and letting other nations do the same. I mean, if Pyeki tries to annex East Timor, which, let's face it, we will, I expect at least a few nations to kick up a fuss, rather than turn a blind eye so they can do the same to Estonia or whatever.

I'm not totally against having an off-site earth, but then there are easy ways to work with the NS/Jolt rules and guidelines. My nation is Pyeki, and I play it as such, but there's no reason why Pyeki can't have history common to the RL nations it covers, so long as I play 'The Pyekan-Kuogu of Pyeki', and not 'Thailand, Myanmar, and Indonesia'

In the group A Modern World (Pyeki would be there, but the part of the world I want to play in has IC history and occupants already), one guy wanted to play China, so created an account called, "AMW_China". Who can really tell him not to play a nation called China when his NS account has the name? In ESR I thought there could be moderation problems with (if I may use you as an example, though there were plenty of others) Greal playing Germany, because IC he was playing a nation that has nothing to do with his NS account, but if he'd created a new account called, I dunno, Grand Imperial Germany (something German and not already reserved, anyway), surely that would be in keeping with the Jolt/NS rules.

Anyway, so long as Pyeki can cover Indonesia, Thailand, and Burma, I don't mind too much where we do it. I just want us to have good players who won't flake out on us and who will put thought and reasoning into their nations' actions. Speaking of, I think we should make sure to get as many of ESR's best players on board as possible. I was looking forward to interacting with Questers' Federated Straits Settlements in Singapore, Brunei, and Malaysia, and hope he'll get on board with that sort of claim again.

Forum is nearly complete

Here it is
http://earthsecondresurrection.forumlivre.com/index.php?
I will need a map maker

Holy crap. I thought this thing would be fine but in just over a week its dead and moved. I don't like offsite so I won't be participating. Sorry.

Can't make a map, but Greal, do you wanna make me mod and I'll keep up on things?

are we using a RL map, or a created one?

RL, I would think.

are we using a RL map, or a created one?

RL map

i'll make the map

How do you make a claim???

Go here. That's where the new one is. (http://earthsecondresurrection.forumlivre.com/index.php?mforum=earthsecondresurrection&act=idx)