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Any ESR RPs going on? I haven’t really looked….

Any ESR RPs going on? I haven’t really looked….

IC thread almost up, stick with me. It's long, and most of it won't be relevant 'til later, but it's a good read. The last part is relevant to modern day, however.

amyone interested in an 'Arab League' type alliance?

Sorry to be a pain; but could I change my name to the The Second Great And bountiful Israeli Empire?

Someone said I wasn't being realistic...:D

Sorry to be a pain; but could I change my name to the The Second Great And bountiful Israeli Empire?

Someone said I wasn't being realistic...:D

Sure, go ahead. AB will update you as soon as he has time.

Sure, go ahead. AB will update you as soon as he has time.

Ta :) Now I think I might need some breething room in the south >_>

Updated, Animarnia.

IC thread, y'all:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13649052#post13649052

A dualarchy would be far from the truth. Any relations that we have are definitely the result of a bigger picture. The story arch will make that picture much more clear as time goes on.
Ah, I see... So it's going to be more like a dualarchy with a reason? Well, not funny, I know- can't wait though. I still like the idea of a newly restored Catholic Church, buoyed by the return of the Patriarch of Constantinople and the faithful peons of Russia marching against the unbelievers- ah well, likely not, eh?

Any ESR RPs going on? I haven’t really looked….

Vienna (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555397) would be more than happy to have a German delegation.

Updated, Animarnia.

IC thread, y'all:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13649052#post13649052

Thanks AB :) writing up a post to hit your fact book now..is it ok if I say that the Israeli empire and Americans are on relatively good terms (lik RL)?

Thanks AB :) writing up a post to hit your fact book now..is it ok if I say that the Israeli empire and Americans are on relatively good terms (lik RL)?

That works, seeing as Russia and the Republic are not on good terms, and I need someone over there ;)

AB, this thread (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13649092#post13649092) is an ESR thread... closed to me and Ani, but it's an important one nonetheless.

Around this week, I will make a post about Belgium and Luxembourg being invaded or something. :D

Around this week, I will make a post about Belgium and Luxembourg being invaded or something. :D

Be prepared for the usual me or Candistan as the NPC force...always be prepared for out of the box when invading.

Remember my North Korean defense, AB? Kim Jong Il with his stuffed animal :p

Remember my North Korean defense, AB? Kim Jong Il with his stuffed animal :p

That was friggin' ballin' :D

Ah, suicidal air strikes, nuclear stuffed animals, and a Kim Jong Il that was secretly in the closet... way to toss that Earth out with a bang.

That suicidal air strike where like six planes survived the first barrage of missiles and the rest went down soon after.

Ah, suicidal air strikes, nuclear stuffed animals, and a Kim Jong Il that was secretly in the closet... way to toss that Earth out with a bang.

That suicidal air strike where like six planes survived the first barrage of missiles and the rest went down soon after.

The ones falling out of the sky with no help from us was great :D

That was the best invasion ever...I don't even remember what kinds of planes those were, but I was sending like...Japanese F-4 Phantom-equivalents to shoot them down, and that was effective :D

Great stuff...totally worth it.

That was the best invasion ever...I don't even remember what kinds of planes those were, but I was sending like...Japanese F-4 Phantom-equivalents to shoot them down, and that was effective :D

Great stuff...totally worth it.

Yah; it twas indeed :D would anyone object if The Great and Bountiful empire started to 'Quell Muslim agression through the world" >_>

I think I was whipping out MiG 15s, 17s, and 21s... best time ever. It was so much fun... because it wasn't my nation. And then everyone quit just as I was about to blow up the capital.

I think I was whipping out MiG 15s, 17s, and 21s... best time ever. It was so much fun... because it wasn't my nation. And then everyone quit just as I was about to blow up the capital.

Well me and AB waited ages for you to post; but you never did :(

I got called away and by the time I returned, everyone else had quit... it blew pretty bad, lol.

Yah; it twas indeed :D would anyone object if The Great and Bountiful empire started to 'Quell Muslim agression through the world" >_>

I wouldn't object...though I dunnow if I'd give you the entire NLOS launch system just for oil ;) fighters, maybe.

Haha, AB, I'll be posting a deal for you as well in your thread in a minute. I may not have as much oil, but the canal is something that I do have. ;)

I wouldn't object...though I dunnow if I'd give you the entire NLOS launch system just for oil ;) fighters, maybe.

Well we only want enough Boxs and IMS to protect our borders :P we're not really asking for DPRS still tis a big comitment I agree..is there anything we could offer you that might swing your decision? We'd be willing ot buy some A-10s too :D

Around this week, I will make a post about Belgium and Luxembourg being invaded or something. :D

Huzzah! Rumblings in Europe!

Lebanon and Crete are looking tasty as well.

You mean Cyprus?

Also, map update tommorow, work tonight prevented me from finishing it. I'm on my phone ATM

Lebanon and Crete are looking tasty as well.

Yah :) Lebonon is indeed looking rather Good to me too

Cyprus yeah... forgive my geography not being the top part of my game, lol

Still accepting entries?

Can I have Nigeria, Niger and Algeria?

Name: The Nalgerian Confluence

Huzzah! Rumblings in Europe!

*Places leopard 2 tanks on the borders*

Ah, I see now where some of the confusion has come from regarding questions in my factbook. Indonesian States had Kampfers give me Malaysian Borneo, which, as Questers noted, I don't claim. Hey, Kampfers! You can give Malaysia to Questers. I mean, of course we're going to over-run his entire nation, eventually, but for now... ;)

A few other minor things: I seem to have East Timor, which is an independent nation in reality. Also I'm wondering about the Andaman Islands and the Nicobar Islands. They belong to India in reality, but aren't coloured on this map, and Honako is yet to say anything. Do we have any understanding on whether they are Indian, or NPC? At some point Pyeki will probably try to annex them just to see how far they can push the Indian Confederacy (not because I actually have any need for them), so it'd be good to know where they stand!

Peacock! I'll be a mixture of both, as India will be beautiful but quite fierce. I plan to be quite different to my usual left-wing state in this RP, going to the other side of the political spectrum and having a habit of heavily supporting "revolutionary" armies, if there are any. I'll enjoy RPing with you, its always fun getting into little surmishes with your neighbours, and I do have a habit of doing it (especially considering my leader has an unstoppable desired to highly influence all of South Asia).

Oh, and AB, my name will be the (South-Asia) Indian Confederacy for the sake of this RP.

Ah, cool, in time I'll probably come up with some rebel movements for you to consider sponsoring. Probably the Pangkai (our parliament) will invent some as well, just so they can accuse you of sponsoring terrorist organisations, increase tensions between us, and justify their iron-fisted rule by saying that the population needs to be protected by a strong government, which no doubt will just piss your guys off even more :) It's win win!

I will make an RP about invading Bahrain and Qatar - feel free to join in!

Lebanon and Crete are looking tasty as well.

I have control of Greece, but if you wanted to invade Crete, I'd be up for the battle. TG me and lemme know.

Also I'm wondering about the Andaman Islands and the Nicobar Islands. They belong to India in reality, but aren't coloured on this map, and Honako is yet to say anything. Do we have any understanding on whether they are Indian, or NPC? At some point Pyeki will probably try to annex them just to see how far they can push the Indian Confederacy (not because I actually have any need for them), so it'd be good to know where they stand!

If they are part of India in real life, I think I'll take them! :p However, I do like your scenario there...like the Falklands war. I'd be open to that, I prefer the smaller scale wars.

Oh, and on a side note... down with the League of Venice!

If they are part of India in real life, I think I'll take them! :p However, I do like your scenario there...like the Falklands war. I'd be open to that, I prefer the smaller scale wars.

Oh, and on a side note... down with the League of Venice!

Good luck with that!:P

Guys, can we just assume that i've already established embassies with all of you? This was tried in a few RPs i've been in lately, and worked nicely; besides, I really don't feel like going around and copy-pasting the exact same message multiple times. If you really want me to go around and do that I can do so, but if that's the case just consider this message to be my request for your nation. :p

ditto for me

My factbook:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13650188#post13650188

Might update it later.

The Worker's State of Kulikovia is against the League of Venice with their dellusions of Imperial glory!

I am currently in the process of trying to lift my nation out of poverty and into work, by giving more funds to education etc. to generally improve my economy and try to get a 13% annual growth rate, get poverty down to about 15% (it will have natural fallen abit anyway in the time from 08 to 2012) and make everything great! ;)

Anyway, if anyone wants their private sector companies (or the public sector) to invest I would most welcome it. For you the benefits are cheap labour and a population who with better education will be trained to do jobs in manufacturing and services industry. For me the benefit is people working and improving my economy. However, I would ask for the companies to invest in the education, and it makes sense, considering with your investment the training will be helped so more people will be able to create products such as cars or computers etc. for the company. I'd be looking for investing in the manufacturing and service industries, not farming etc. though however.

Again, I ask for investors.

UBS shall become an Annoyance, firstly we shall threaten war over a Name! The name of Μακεδονία in Greece, it has to be renamed or else it shall be added to Greater Macedonia and the UBS in general!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13650838#post13650838 - the Costa Rica thread, by the way. I know I missed it...


A reference to everyone - NS histories start at 1945, not just at any arbitrary point (see: pg. 1, which actually says 50 years...but it's roughly 1945, the end of WWII). That's a point that makes sense and can keepthings from devolving into a "who did what" argument in times before then. All of our multi-national states have, therefore, evolved after 1945 into the conglomerates they are today.

btw, my last post was edited, AB.

Anyone want to give me an idea for the name of my nation?

Anyone want to give me an idea for the name of my nation?

The Oceanic Coalition, since your border all three major oceans. Plus, having your nations spread out like that seems like a nation that should be a "Coalition" or "Alliance."

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/esrmap-4.png

Updated map, hope I got everyone.

AB, can you get on MSN?

@everyone: dun call me Kamp D:< it's Kampf

Nvm

I wish to claim Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam under the name of, 'the Republic of Indochina'. After japanese occupation, Indochina rebelled against the French to become independant. Hope that's ok with Greal.

I wish to claim Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam under the name of, 'the Republic of Indochina'. After japanese occupation, Indochina rebelled against the French to become independant. Hope that's ok with Greal.

Confirmed. You'll need to reference Greal for that, naturally.


Kampf: MSN...

Terribly sorry about all this, but is there a way I could switch up Belgium and Nigeria. I need to find a way to incorporate the French language, culture, etc. (as Corbournne is a French country) into my nation, and Walloons will work just fine.

Plus, the Flemish part of Belgium could kinda go along with the Dutch History of South Africa. Anyway, could Belgium, South Africa, and Australia work as the Pan-Oceanic Alliance?

Go ahead Cor, confirmed again.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13651466

Factbook, which automatically ='s win.

Guys, can we just assume that i've already established embassies with all of you? This was tried in a few RPs i've been in lately, and worked nicely; besides, I really don't feel like going around and copy-pasting the exact same message multiple times. If you really want me to go around and do that I can do so, but if that's the case just consider this message to be my request for your nation. :p

Oh, I don't know- I do have something of a sixth-sense that your copy and pasted posts will be especially personal, and make me feel like you worked night after night to present to me a truly magnificent piece of artwork for my single pleasure.... Or likely it's just on the fritz again- damn... It's okay, you don't have too; as long as your fine with me not either.

The Worker's State of Kulikovia is against the League of Venice with their dellusions of Imperial glory!

Kulikovians? I don't think it is a mere coincidence that Kuli sounds to me a lot like coolie; the all around name for the colonial servants.

Again, I ask for investors.

Eh, only 'cooperative' colonies get special treatment, like righteous and majestic Brazil. :)

I wish to claim Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam under the name of, 'the Republic of Indochina'. After japanese occupation, Indochina rebelled against the French to become independant. Hope that's ok with Greal.

Why the natives would think of keeping their colonial name is beyond me, but I like regardless.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555532

Factbook for the Confederated Territories of Latin America.

(Btw, Amazonian Beasts, it's Akimonad. ;) )

Firstly, on the map, Crete appears as not taken. Crete is, indeed, property of Greece.

Also...


Eh, only 'cooperative' colonies get special treatment, like righteous and majestic Brazil. :)

Why the natives would think of keeping their colonial name is beyond me, but I like regardless.

lolwin.

AB, could you hit up MSN?

I'm guessing Nigeria, Niger and Algeria was a no.

I would like to claim Sudan, Ethiopia and Kenya.

Name = Shamanistic Peoples of Sudeth-Kya

Btw, Kampfer, you gave Corbournne Niger, instead of Nigeria. See map:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/africa_pol_2003.jpg

Still accepting entries?

Can I have Nigeria, Niger and Algeria?

Name: The Nalgerian Confluence


I posted something but I think it has to wait for mod approval to show up, so I'll repeat it and hope it shows up.

Since Nigeria was taken, then wasn't, then taken again and now not taken, I guess I will skip Nigeria and the whole area and go for Sudan, Ethiopia and Kenya. Name = Shamanistic Peoples of Sudeth-Kya

Kampfer, you gave Corb the country of Niger instead of Nigeria, see map here: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/africa_pol_2003.jpg

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Yes?

...

We don't sell popsicles here.

Still accepting entries?

Can I have Nigeria, Niger and Algeria?

Name: The Nalgerian Confluence


I posted something but I think it has to wait for mod approval to show up, so I'll repeat it and hope it shows up.

Since Nigeria was taken, wasn't then taken again and now not taken, I guess I will ski Nigeria and the whole area and go for Sudan, Ethiopia and Kenya. Name = Shamanistic Peoples of Sudeth-Kya

Kampfer, you gave Corb the country of Niger instead of Nigeria, see map here: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/africa_pol_2003.jpg

I wish to claim Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam under the name of, 'the Republic of Indochina'. After japanese occupation, Indochina rebelled against the French to become independant. Hope that's ok with Greal.

Thats fine, it will require a change to my history.

look up

This board is making me flustered, its like when I write a post the vB. engine has some randomizer deciding whether or not it shows up.

NI, you are confirmed for Sudan, Ethiopia and Kenya.

thanks! factbook coming in a few hours.

(Doesn't the island, Hainan, off the coast of China belong to China?)

Ok, guys, because this is becoming a bit of an issue:

If you have an issue with a particular speck of territory in regards to the map, TG Kampfers in private rather than lambasting him with every minute detail here in public - mapmaking is a tedious process.

Secondly, if a guy has a claim, the constituent "close territories" (ie, like states - but not French Guyana, for instance) are included. Things like Puerto Rico and Guam are not included. That's for reference so we all don't have to be confused about who has what.

Can I get a response from the Balkan countries from my IC post plz?

Why the natives would think of keeping their colonial name is beyond me, but I like regardless.

It's a neutral name.

(Doesn't the island, Hainan, off the coast of China belong to China?)

Indeed it does.

Secondly, if a guy has a claim, the constituent "close territories" (ie, like states - but not French Guyana, for instance) are included. Things like Puerto Rico and Guam are not included. That's for reference so we all don't have to be confused about who has what.

What now?

Thats fine, it will require a change to my history.

I wouldn't think it would seeing as independance would be declared right after WWII the only thing may be a small war with you trying to re-gain the area although that's up to you.

AB just said that if you were, say, the US, you would get the 50 states and such, but you wouldnt get the island of puerto rico or guam since they are overseas territories not actual states of the union

Ok, guys, because this is becoming a bit of an issue:

If you have an issue with a particular speck of territory in regards to the map, TG Kampfers in private rather than lambasting him with every minute detail here in public - mapmaking is a tedious process.

Indeed AB, I agree- I think it is a case of:

"I CAN CORRECT KAMPF MORE THAN YOU CAN I HAVE A BIGGER PENIS"

Er... Wait, what?

Haha, tired... Innuendo- hilarity...

Can I get a response from the Balkan countries from my IC post plz?

Oh, I didn't know if you wanted one from me... I'll see what sort of one I'm able to whip up.

It's a neutral name.

You know, I like your style of thinking! Haha... Yes, from now on every fromer colony shall be referred to as it's rightful 'neutral' name.

India, you don't change- but Iran, you're Persia now.

My history will be kinda “weird” like. I’m not sure how Germany got France and Netherlands in the first place.



Simple, they took them just like they did in WWII. Maybe.

Simple, they took them just like they did in WWII. Maybe.

As long as it's after WWII (since real history ends with the end of WWII), than yea, it's fine. Something like that.

I must say, I think that this history thing is a little odd, in light of the suspension of disbelief.

In ESR, for example, Japan is full of English and Russian speakers, as per the suspension of disbelief, but that clearly doesn't fit with an Emperor Hirohito et cetera.

Are these two rules not fundamentally at odds with one another?

I don't know what to do with my history, anymore. If Burma, Siam, and the Dutch East Indies existed, do the Pyekan people fit? I kind of feel bad writing a history of Japanese invasion of the European colonies and local Pyekan support for the Imperial Japanese Army if Kansiov is saying that Imperial Japan doesn't fit with his history.

...Imma do it anyway, 'cause it fits with what I want, but, er, still!

factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555563

pls correct my name on the active claims list (its neo-ishtaRia)

tnx

To be honest, I'd like AB or another ES:R mod to look at Kansiov's profile, because tbh it looks in violation of the "no history editing pre-1950." I mean, come on, its rather a long stretch of suspension of disbelief to remove the entire Japanese Empire from History and replace it with the Russians or Europeans or whatever.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13639289#post13639289

The latest League of Venice is up, (has been for a it) btw everyone and I am hoping that Germany, Russia, Poland, Romania and Spain all make appearances... That being Greal, Candistan, Kuli, Granate and Kampf respectivly... Of course apart from the 'actual' league members like ka-Spel and Fighter4u.

Sorry colonials... This is a European only fest.

We don't want you European types with your snowy winters and temperate climate anyway :p

We will attend...and crash your party with our anti-Imperialist retoric!

We will attend...and crash your party with our anti-Imperialist retoric!

And "rhetoric", as well, I presume? :p

And "rhetoric", as well, I presume? :p

Working 15 hours does that to you.

Working 15 hours does that to you.

Man do I know the feeling.

Yep, it sucks.

Could I claim Namibia, Angola and Botswana? Also as i understand it I need to use the actual GDP of these countries but can I redesign the budget?

I am now open for diplomacy.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13654004&posted=1#post13654004

Could I claim Namibia, Angola and Botswana? Also as i understand it I need to use the actual GDP of these countries but can I redesign the budget?

You can make your budget whatever you want, but you need to use their actual GDP's. Confirmed.

From hereforth I am withdrawning from the RP due to real life. I won't have time for any role. Not even a small country. It been fun. Sorry I had to withdrawn. But thats that. :(

-fighter4u

I must say, I think that this history thing is a little odd, in light of the suspension of disbelief.

In ESR, for example, Japan is full of English and Russian speakers, as per the suspension of disbelief, but that clearly doesn't fit with an Emperor Hirohito et cetera.

Are these two rules not fundamentally at odds with one another?

I don't know what to do with my history, anymore. If Burma, Siam, and the Dutch East Indies existed, do the Pyekan people fit? I kind of feel bad writing a history of Japanese invasion of the European colonies and local Pyekan support for the Imperial Japanese Army if Kansiov is saying that Imperial Japan doesn't fit with his history.

...Imma do it anyway, 'cause it fits with what I want, but, er, still!

It's to avoid confusion and OOC strife over past events that may have occured - it's happened in Earths before. Someone may claim that they "did such and such event" at one point of history while someone else claimed "such and such." It leads to argument and eventually to players locking down more in OOC than IC, which isn't what you want.

You can still have your people, even if Emperor Hirohito was present for the Japanese. Unless we're all rascists here, I don't see why race or religion or any of those other chooseable characteristics make a big deal. The Suspension of Disbelief, while it does incorporate for changing up religion and race, etc., is more meant to protect those who want to seriously go "outside the box," ie, in throwing in a fantasy race, for instance, or an undergound society or agency or whatever.


Questers: I'll go check it out.

Fighter: Glad to have you when you were here - RL is more important than NS in situations.

Notice: Sweden, Finland, Norway now opened to claimers.

I wish to switch my claim from Romania, Bulgaria, and Macedonia to whatever he had.

I wish to switch my claim from Romania, Bulgaria, and Macedonia to whatever he had.

Do her proud Granate!

And thanks for the thought A-B. I have a feeling your world will do well.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13647704#post13647704

Is the FB I had started. Feel free to do what u wish to it.

Confirmed, Granate. In addition, a general notice to players: please have a factbook up within the week, even if it's just a skin-and-bones thing - simply for reference to push on with the storyboard.

Sorry if I was a bit of a bitch yesterday in here, in addition - it was late and my government paper was bogging me down.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555611

The Nordic Kingdom arrises.

If I could, I would like to claim New Zealand, Chile and Peru. (They may seem worlds apart, but it's really just a semi-quickish jaunt across the South Pacific.) I shall call this nation the Kingdom of Greater Zealand.

From hereforth I am withdrawning from the RP due to real life. I won't have time for any role. Not even a small country. It been fun. Sorry I had to withdrawn. But thats that. :(

-fighter4u

Well that isn't good! Thanks for playing with us while you could.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555611

The Nordic Kingdom arrises.

Do I suppose you will 'stay true' to the current foriegn relations started by Fighter4u?

Greal - Indochina War? Or does France let Indochina go, realizing colonization is coming to an end? I need this tidbit for my history.

Republic of Indochina (ESR|Factbook) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555604)

It's just bones right now but I'll be adding the Government, Foreign Policy & History later.

Alrighty, I need someone to stage an invasion of Crete, the island off the coast of Greece. I would prefer it to be someone who is in the vicinity (for realism purposes) but if I only get responses from people who are worlds away, that will have to do. An invasion Crete is sort of important to the storyline I'm planning for italy/Greece/Switzerland.

If you're interested in a bit of military action, Send me a telegram, or message me on AIM (Dax In Dementia) and we'll discuss it.

Sorry to totally ruin your storyline (or maybe force you to skip it?) but Crete is a majour part of Greece despite whatever anyone else says. Wikipedia may be the thing anyone can edit but I'm pretty sure the CIA Factbook would say the same thing.

Probably not.

Sorry to totally ruin your storyline (or maybe force you to skip it?) but Crete is a majour part of Greece despite whatever anyone else says. Wikipedia may be the thing anyone can edit but I'm pretty sure the CIA Factbook would say the same thing.

I'm aware; I control Greece, and hence Crete. I would like someone to stage an invasion on it. In fact, I've TG'd Kampfers to get it shaded in as my territory, but they haven't yet (though he doesn't seem to be updating it as of late, so it's not just me, it seems).

And I'm pretty sure Wikipedia says that Crete is part of Greece.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13652995&postcount=327

this

I think the problem, ka-Spel, is that his mind sort of short circuited when he saw that you wanted someone to invade you; almost unheard in some circles.

I, of course, applaud the decision- a tough sacrifice, but would no doubt be of great benefit to the depth and quality of this RP.

Also, a Austria-Moorington devleopment thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13655029#post13655029)is now posted. Anyone who expects to RP with me should take my consideration to read it, or at least skim through it, seriously.

I think the problem, ka-Spel, is that his mind sort of short circuited when he saw that you wanted someone to invade you; almost unheard in some circles.



Understandable. It's not every day that someone comes along and says, "O HAI GUISE! RAID MY COUNTRY PLZ?"

In actuality, though, it's a small part in a large storyline I have floating around in my head. Of course whoever took the job wouldn't invade the entirety of Greece, just Crete. It would greatly enhance my storyline; in fact, the story sort of benches on that and a number of other things that are already in the works.

INVADE CRETE! FOR THE GREATER GOOD!

I may write the invasion thread of Belgium and Luxembourg today, or tomorrow, or the day after that. Don’t get your hopes up.

Yeah guys, Crete is most definitely colored in, look at the map linked on the first page.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/esrmap-4.png

I'll do another update tonight, but I am not going to do more than one a day. It's a pain in the ass, and between my job, school, my car with a fucked up alternator, and applying for college housing. Sorry if I'm not active enough for you, but to be honest I don't care.

Yup, its colored in.

New post in ESR IC thread.........

Sorry if I'm not active enough for you, but to be honest I don't care.

That hurts Kampf, it really does. I thought we had something special!

*Runs off crying*

Uhr, yeah... Harsh words. Don't worry man, all of us now that while NS RPing is fun, there is still another life all of us (I hope)- in the dimension(s) rumoured to be known as Real Life.

Lol Moorington

NEW MAP:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/b5cd07dc.png

I corrected my name, and saved you the work of doing it.



http://i26.tinypic.com/2q2j0pf.jpg

I corrected my name, and saved you the work of doing it.



http://i26.tinypic.com/2q2j0pf.jpg

You also saved it as a JPEG. Never NEVER NEVER save as .jpg. Always save as .png

edit: that sounds harsh :\ anyways, fixed on my comp, will upload later perhaps.

ok, so want it redone or you got it?

edit: ok, cool

I wish to claim Vietnam, Philippines, and North Korea

My name will be the People's Republic of Vietnam.

Vietnam's already claimed. The other two are good, I think. The only other free country of much size in the whole region is Papua New Guinea.

Vietnam's already claimed. The other two are good, I think. The only other free country of much size in the whole region is Papua New Guinea.

All right, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, and North Korea

My formal title will be People's Republic of Philippines

Good claim, 120 million people..........

Greal, do you know Courbonne has the Netherlands? As long as you do, that's great, but I think we need him before any invasions get started.

no, Corb has Belgium...

no, Corb has Belgium...

Or whatever country Greal is wanting to invade-

Still here by the way! Just I don't really know how to start off. You all make such long posts and I have about an two hours a day on the computer. Mainly because of exams I should be more active in two weeks.

So, what European nations are pro and con-League of Venice.

Also, do any non-European nations want to ally themselves with me? I' am staunchly against this alliance.

So, what European nations are pro and con-League of Venice.

Also, do any non-European nations want to ally themselves with me? I' am staunchly against this alliance.

The jury is still out on it for me. Mainly against so far, but it could easily be swung one way or another.

The Worker's State will never join this alliance and wherever the reassurgance of colonial oppression should rise, we will be there to stop it.

Well, with the POA's capital in Jo'burg, it's unlikely we'd join.

Building my fact book now but won't be up till tomorrow

The FSS reply was rather simple and blunt. "We do not need the help or aid of foreign nations in defending our sovereign territory. The Federated Straits Intelligence Services and Federated Straitian Military are easily adequate to defeat any aggressive move by the Pyekan Kyogou."

-snip-

Edited at Candistan's logical statement.

This is the OOC thread. Start a new thread if you want to have this message sent. Otherwise it is clogging this space.

Well, with the POA's capital in Jo'burg, it's unlikely we'd join.

Really? That's a bad, yet not entirely insurmountable problem; while it is true that your capital is in South Africa, many in Europe are willing to over look that fact in light of the fact that A: if any African country can be considered 'European' many would point to South Africa (Ethiopia, meh) and B: you do have the Netherlands, and Australia- the first being one of the greatest consolidation of maritime and scientific prowess, the second merely a large extension of Europe itself.

you do have the Netherlands, and Australia- the first being one of the greatest consolidation of maritime and scientific prowess,

Sorry to burst your bubble in this statement however if you look at the map the three countries of Germany, France and the Netherlands are united in a country called the German Federal Dominion or GFD. Corbournne owns Belgium, Cape Colony and Australia. The reason Corbournne has territory in Europe is two-fold.

Walloons is French, thus explaining the language in his country.
Flanders is dutch, tying in with Cape Colony being a former dutch area.

I believe he wasn't expecting that much integration with Europe.

This is the second time Moorington has confused Netherlands and Belgium.

So, scrap the "maritime and scientific prowess" part and replace it with Chocolate prowess. The metaphor still fits :-p

May I claim Malta, Monaco and Andorra?

Under the IC name of the Grand Holy Monégasque Empire.

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This is the second time Moorington has confused Netherlands and Belgium.


It's a curse! You know- forget it, Belgium... Netherlands... Chocalate... Wooden Shoes... Can sink into the sea.

Might I claim Hong Kong and Macau?

IC name shall be the Hong Kong Federation, at least until I come up with something better.

It's a curse! You know- forget it, Belgium... Netherlands... Chocalate... Wooden Shoes... Can sink into the sea.

Don't forget tulips. I couldn't for the life of me, tell you why their tulips are so special.

Don't forget tulips. I couldn't for the life of me, tell you why their tulips are so special.

:O never say that! They are beautiful flowers with a distinct shape which no other flower comes close to. Not only that but typically they are yellow and red which can be used to make orange, the national and royal colour of the Netherlands which probably explains their real importance.

May I claim Malta, Monaco and Andorra?

Under the IC name of the Grand Holy Monégasque Empire.

I guess, but that's an extremely insignificant claim considering that there are many more important and useful nations out there.

Might I claim Hong Kong and Macau?

IC name shall be the Hong Kong Federation, at least until I come up with something better.

I'd just think of something better. Especially considering both of those are part of DPW's nation.

*eyebrow raise*

I have tulips in my back yard. I wanna be Dutch (wait, that's not even the right denonym... what exactly are they called? Hollish?)

Might I claim Hong Kong and Macau?

IC name shall be the Hong Kong Federation, at least until I come up with something better.

Don't know if you haven't been around but Hong Kong and Macau were transfered in 1997 and 1999 (respectively although I always confuse the dates) to China so I suppose that they are part of the Grand Mongolian Empire. If you are looking for something small, I suggest British Guyana, French Guyana and Suriname.

*eyebrow raise*

I have tulips in my back yard. I wanna be Dutch (wait, that's not even the right denonym... what exactly are they called? Hollish?)

lmao

Dutch is the demonym, believe it or not. Or do you wish to prove me wrong somehow?

HEAVILY-CODED MESSAGE TO THE FOLLOWING NATIONS:
The Second Israeli Empire

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Put this on the general IC thread for a reply :)

lmao

Dutch is the demonym, believe it or not. Or do you wish to prove me wrong somehow?

Somehow, I thought that "Dutch" applied to Denmark, until I started writing this very reply, to which my mind said, "Danish, you moron."

I happily complied :-)

Well if Hong Kong and Macau are integral parts of China, as has been mentioned, how come Granate does not have control over Svalbard and Jan Mayen, seeing how they're integral parts of Norway?

In any case, RL China barely has any sort of control over Hong Kong and Macau, considering they even have an entirely seperate government from China proper. In fact, going by the map for the RP (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/b5cd07dc.png) they have yet to be actually claimed by China, and seeing how we can rewrite our history back to 1950, why can't I say that they were never ceded back to mainland China?

Well if Hong Kong and Macau are integral parts of China, as has been mentioned, how come Granate does not have control over Svalbard and Jan Mayen, seeing how they're integral parts of Norway?

In any case, RL China barely has any sort of control over Hong Kong and Macau, considering they even have an entirely seperate government from China proper. In fact, going by the map for the RP (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/b5cd07dc.png) they have yet to be actually claimed by China, and seeing how we can rewrite our history back to 1950, why can't I say that they were never ceded back to mainland China?

First off, the map is being updated as new stuff comes in, so don't reference everything off the map. Kampf is working on it, last thing we need is more criticism of the map. Go by the claims list for now, and include the territories that are more affiliated with a nation to be part of the claim - ie, Hawaii for the USA, but Puerto Rico would not be.

Seeing as both the territories in questions are Special Administrative Regions of China proper and not claimed territories - ie, Taiwan (or, to use some examples from other countries - things like French Guyana), they can be claimed as part of the nation as it is.

Finally, we've gone over the history thing a thousand times already. You claim the real life nations as they are, and then make the histories, for parity's sake. You don't just up and claim all of Yugoslavia or the USSR. Seeing as both were ceded back to China in the '90s, both are therefore part of the China claim.

I guess, but that's an extremely insignificant claim considering that there are many more important and useful nations out there.
Ahhh, those are my worries, the territories I chose will do just nicely.

Ahhh, those are my worries, the territories I chose will do just nicely.

You're confirmed, Fran.

You know what, I'm out.

ie, Hawaii for the USA, but Puerto Rico would not be.

I'm sorry, but this is too bone-headed for me to tolerate. Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the United States and it therefore belongs.

However, I would just as soon call this hypocritical. Hong Kong and Macau are basically territories the same as Puerto Rico. They have separate governments and are largely autonomous.

Seeing as both the territories in questions are Special Administrative Regions of China proper and not claimed territories - ie, Taiwan (or, to use some examples from other countries - things like French Guyana), they can be claimed as part of the nation as it is.

However, I'm sick of the double standards and overall thickheadedness that permeates this Earth.

I'm done here.

I'm sorry, but this is too bone-headed for me to tolerate. Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the United States and it therefore belongs.

However, I would just as soon call this hypocritical. Hong Kong and Macau are basically territories the same as Puerto Rico. They have separate governments and are largely autonomous.

Seeing as both the territories in questions are Special Administrative Regions of China proper and not claimed territories - ie, Taiwan (or, to use some examples from other countries - things like French Guyana), they can be claimed as part of the nation as it is.

However, I'm sick of the double standards and overall thickheadedness that permeates this Earth.

I'm done here.


Bye.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

And AB, you should probably get on MSN.

You know what, I'm out.

Noooeeessss!

Come back Granate, Europe needs you!

Noooeeessss!

Come back Granate, Europe needs you!

You'll be fine without him. :p

Since the uninterested folks are leaving, it should make the ToV have an easier time with their goals of making Europe the ultimate power again!

You'll be fine without him. :p

Since the uninterested folks are leaving, it should make the ToV have an easier time with their goals of making Europe the ultimate power again!

Well to be fair, a potential supporter (at least, European) has left in return for a country protected by the Monroe Doctrine (I believe) and not too interested in my affairs.

However, you are right, two less vaguely irritating powers makes the League of Venice the epic win!

Sorry to burst your bubble in this statement however if you look at the map the three countries of Germany, France and the Netherlands are united in a country called the German Federal Dominion or GFD. Corbournne owns Belgium, Cape Colony and Australia. The reason Corbournne has territory in Europe is two-fold.

Walloons is French, thus explaining the language in his country.
Flanders is dutch, tying in with Cape Colony being a former dutch area.

I believe he wasn't expecting that much integration with Europe.

No. I wasn't.

Really? That's a bad, yet not entirely insurmountable problem; while it is true that your capital is in South Africa, many in Europe are willing to over look that fact in light of the fact that A: if any African country can be considered 'European' many would point to South Africa (Ethiopia, meh) and B: you do have the Netherlands Belgium, and Australia- the first being one of the greatest consolidation of maritime and scientific prowessthe first being one of the greatest chocolate producers in the world, the second merely a large extension of Europe itself.

Decent points are made here, however, and I'll at least send an observer to the Venice thing if invited.

Well to be fair, a potential supporter (at least, European) has left in return for a country protected by the Monroe Doctrine (I believe) and not too interested in my affairs.

However, you are right, two less vaguely irritating powers makes the League of Venice the epic win!

Trust me, the Monroe Doctrine doesn't exist ;) You're free to go in underneath America's eye.

Trust me, the Monroe Doctrine doesn't exist ;) You're free to go in underneath America's eye.

But since it was created in the 1820s, wouldn't it be unretconnable?

I'm gone.

But since it was created in the 1820s, wouldn't it be unretconnable?

I'm gone.

Lol, you're funny! Can't say I'm particularly depressed, though.

But since it was created in the 1820s, wouldn't it be unretconnable?

I'm gone.

That's fine, you didn't contribute anything as it is.

That's fine, you didn't contribute anything as it is.

Hard to contribute when this RP is filled with hypocracy/I have exams.

wut y my friends all leave D:<

flee too, I shall!

Hard to contribute when this RP is filled with hypocracy/I have exams.

I'm actually ok with running the quitters out of my RP. If you're serious about leaving, leave. We won't miss you.

Lol, you're funny! Can't say I'm particularly depressed, though.

If you're going to be this rude to my friends, then fuck you too. I wash my hands of you. :|

If you're going to be this rude to my friends, then fuck you too. I wash my hands of you. :|

Glad to return the favor.

Why do I feel this was set up?

Jaredcohenia... The Monroe Doctrine can be destroyed at anytime... To say AB had his legislature meet in a special session- January 1st, 1945, to do so, is entirely plausible.

However, that is such a small point, I'm amazed you noticed.

Of course, I stay!

Kampfers, was, I think, the 'only' real loss of tonight. Rowle is undoubtably a puppet... And the others... Idk, retards.

Jaredcohenia... The Monroe Doctrine can be destroyed at anytime... To say AB had his legislature meet in a special session- January 1st, 1945, to do so, is entirely plausible.

However, that is such a small point, I'm amazed you noticed.

Of course, I stay!

Kampfers, was, I think, the 'only' real loss of tonight. Rowle is undoubtably a puppet... And the others... Idk, retards.

I think Kampfers might be kidding.

But other than that, this was clearly set up by Granate and his goon squad. No big loss to anyone. In fact, now that the fakes are gone, this should work out better.

Jaredcohenia... The Monroe Doctrine can be destroyed at anytime... To say AB had his legislature meet in a special session- January 1st, 1945, to do so, is entirely plausible.

However, that is such a small point, I'm amazed you noticed.

Of course, I stay!

Kampfers, was, I think, the 'only' real loss of tonight. Rowle is undoubtably a puppet... And the others... Idk, retards.

Glad to have you aboard, Moorington - Candistan and I value every member here who's actually willing to have a good time and a positive IC experience, rather than focus only on OOC issues. Bigger post coming for all of you people genuinely interested about ESR - in the works.

'the hell's everyone leaving for? A small mistake in the maps is no reason to leave? And the Monroe Doctrine...WHO CARES

I STAY

oh, and ditto for me, Candistan

this was clearly set up by Granate and his goon squad.

I love how you immediately blame me. :P If you want the truth it was actually Aki and Rowle's Idea.

Have fun Candistan, don't go crying when things go your way.

Oh and one more thing

LOL ACE COMBAT.

Listen, the people who actually are in this to have an Earth experience, since that's what me and Candistan wanted to make:

Everyone's been all over OOC to apparently perfect their nations these first few days in this Earth. I'm not sure how many of you were in ESS - our best effort yet when it was out with Wagdog - but this isn't about winning or losing, or being perfect and having every stat compiled. It's about having fun, and if you're in this to simply win - I ask you: why are you here? Rethink what you're doing, and if I were you, I might ask myself if I still want to be part of an Earth that's designed to have a positive IC experience, not a quarrelsome OOC one.

If you're here to have a good time and actually enjoy yourself, to utilize what creativity we all use in NS and to ignore the minor details of every single attribute of this Earth, follow me and Candistan - we'll work with you. We'll help you with whatever you need, answer your every question, be on hand to write and lead and participate. We'll do what we have to to promote the best experience with you guys, but we ask you this: see the big picture. Don't miss the forest for the trees. Participate in the Earth with an open mind and be willing to work as a team with all of us in the quest to make this great. It has potential - and we can work this to the end, without a doubt. Work with us and we'll work with you - you're all a big part of this, as long as you see this Earth as a positive experience.

However, if you just want to come in and have an OOC discussion about historical international politics, if you want to criticise and respond negatively to the attempts of others, if you genuinely don't want to have success here - reconsider joining this RP. Reconsider what you're doing period, actually, because if you just see the small scale here on NS, that's a dangerous precedent for life itself. Don't miss the best things of life - the things often in the big picture - to fret over every little detail. Life isn't perfect, but you can make it into a damn good experience by taking what's thrown your way and transforming it into your best possible outcome.

I ask each of you to ask yourself if you want to have fun and avoid the stress that so many people here on NS seem to put themselves in through getting in OOC fights. So often we see people distressed and angry about this post and that, arguing over the most minute detal, fighting over who wins and who loses. Look inside yourself - is that what you really want? Is that how you want to make your NS experience? Is that how you want to define yourself on this board? If it is, ESR may not be for you - we're looking for people who may not be the most talented player, who may not be the most experienced, who may not know of every missile system of the USAF or frigate of the Chinese navy - but those who want to have fun and put in the time to have an enjoyable and positive experience.

We're not looking for a blockbuster hit or an epic novel - simply to have a good time and maybe come out of it with new looks and new ideas. If you're willing to have fun and pass on the win-win mentality of NS, than we're willing as mods to work with you to the fullest. We'll be glad to have you on board this ship.

I love how you immediately blame me. :P If you want the truth it was actually Aki and Rowle's Idea.

Have fun Candistan, don't go crying when things go your way.

Oh and one more thing

LOL ACE COMBAT.

Yup, seeya.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-pictures-lonely-kitten-birthday-party-balloon.jpg

Jaredcohenia... The Monroe Doctrine can be destroyed at anytime... To say AB had his legislature meet in a special session- January 1st, 1945, to do so, is entirely plausible.

However, that is such a small point, I'm amazed you noticed.

Of course, I stay!

Kampfers, was, I think, the 'only' real loss of tonight. Rowle is undoubtably a puppet... And the others... Idk, retards.

Oh yes, because we're retards.

If AB's government can meet in a special session of congress on January 1st, 1945 (before the retcon date.. :S?), why can't the Yugoslav Wars be prevented from happening? Why can't the transfer of Hong Kong and Macau to China be prevented from happening? Why can't the statehood of Alaska be prevented from happening? Etc.

Only retards take three AP history classes. :V

What's with all the hostility?

I sat down five minutes ago and already I've read about a dozen ESR posts with people casting insults or engaging in petty one-upmanship.

Uiri, don't get fussy about an OOC post, it's just... an OOC post. Perfectly legitimate. Use the first post of your factbook to link to all the other ones of significance within it, or something, like I do. That's why the function exists.

I'm not planning to walk out because some people have made correctable mistakes about territory or history, but I would have a lot more fun if everyone would stop looking for OOC confrontation. It's the internet, don't get angry.

That, and a general hear, hear over AB's last post.

Moving on to what I originally wanted to post, I'm looking for some relatively developed nation or nations that may in the past have been sympathetic in some degree to the Pyekan-Kuogu, and supplied us with some armaments.

I notice a lot of people are just whacking a MiG here, a Dassault there, a Browning on the side and a Colt under the pillow, but I'd like Pyeki to actually make some kind of sense. Obviously, if the Russians have always hated us, we don't have a lot of MiGs, or if the Yanks have never seen us as a bulwark against Mongol socialism we're going to have to do without Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates.

So, logically, major arms producing nations, have any of you at any point since WWII seen fit to deal with Pyeki in such a way? Perhaps because you see the Indians or Mongolians as a threat, bet on us becoming dominant in a strategic part of the world, or have an ideological opposition to Mongolia's socialism or the FSS's freemarket capitalism? I just want permission to put a few cold war era fighters, tanks, warships, or whatever in my forces, really, and have it make sense.

OOC: Pyeki: sorry for goin' against you, bu that's what any regular nation would do...

And my other half is Buginese - which just happens to come from makassar. Considence???

Haha, if I keep this up you really will start to think I'm out to get you personally, eh?

No, so long as it's in IC, it's all fine with me, mate. In reality I'd probably be on your side, against the Pyekan-Kuogu.

Ok, What is going on with the Vienna thing, I haven't had time to read it.

Another mention. World War 2 and World War 1 never happened, thats what I'm writing in my history........

Hmm, could I claim the following nations:

Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan

In-character for the purpose of this roleplay, I would like my nation to be called: The Theocratic Republic of Mandeyānā

Another mention. World War 2 and World War 1 never happened, thats what I'm writing in my history........

they did happen. the Alt. history only starts after WWII

But other than that, this was clearly set up by Granate and his goon squad. No big loss to anyone. In fact, now that the fakes are gone, this should work out better.

Knock it off with the insults before they degenerate into flaming.

why can't we? no rule against it, is there?

they did happen. the Alt. history only starts after WWII

WHAT? I've spent a some time writing that....:headbang:

I'll edit it tomorrow........

What's with all the hostility?

I sat down five minutes ago and already I've read about a dozen ESR posts with people casting insults or engaging in petty one-upmanship.

Uiri, don't get fussy about an OOC post, it's just... an OOC post. Perfectly legitimate. Use the first post of your factbook to link to all the other ones of significance within it, or something, like I do. That's why the function exists.

I don't know. I think people are just upset because they don't understand that you are working from now, backwards not from 1946 forwards.

As for the OOC post:

I dun lyk ppl clogin' ma Factbook

In all seriousness, it isn't very polite. That's all. Sorry if I seemed a little more aggro than I intended. It's the internet! lol

As for history, I was thinking that Japan and Germany would've built up their power after WWII and then Germany successfully got France and Belgium. The USSR and US jointly invaded Japan, Japanese flee to Pyeki and all those histories are solved... somewhat.

Wut do j00 think?

Uiri, just copy and paste your finished factbook into a new thread, then give the new thread link to the mods.

Ok, What is going on with the Vienna thing, I haven't had time to read it.

Hey Greal, the League of Venice is a group of nations spearheaded by Italy and Austria that are trying to form a League to defend each other in the event of an attack on Europe. We have received a lot of criticism, especially from Asian forces, but a lot of European nations as well, because there is speculation that we want to start colonization and imperialism again. But all that we have proposed so far is a united Europe to defend against attack from superpower nations of Asia and the Americas.

We're actually really looking forward to your participation in this, whether you wish to join or not. Considering you hold two of the most important European nations, it would make a real interesting if you joined in on the fun.

So far, nations that have joined are:
Italy
Austria
Switzerland
Greece
Croatia
Hungary

Norway, Sweden, and Finland joined when Fighter4you was controlling them, but he left and Granate took over and decided not to join, but now he left, so I'm unsure as to what'll happen with that. Spain and Portugal opposed the idea, but Kampfers left, so again, we have to wait for someone to reclaim them to see what happens. We have yet to hear from Turkey, England, Ireland, and you.
However, our stiffest competition comes from Kulivokia, who is fiercely in opposition.

Here's the thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555552)


On a separate note, I'm not looking forward to all of the OOC bickering that's sure to come in this RP. I joined here to improve my RPing skills and to do something interesting. it looked like fun. So far, people's egos are doing nothing but getting in the way and preventing it from being any fun. We'll see how it works out, but I sincerely hope it's quelled once the action gets flowing. If not, Italy will be up for grabs. I'm not the drama-type (not OOC drama, anyway.)

And finally, I STILL NEED SOMEONE TO INVADE CRETE. PLEASE, FOR TE LOVE OF GOD, I DO NOT WANT TO ED UP RPING THE DAMNED INVASION WITH MYSELF. SOMEONE PLEASE VOLUNTEER TO INVADE CRETE. TRUST ME, IT COMES WITH NO CATCH - IT'S PART OF MY STORYLINE.

TG me if you're interested :-)

I'll take a look at it later

I already have Pyeki bothering me......

Alright, so as of now, which nations are up for grabs?

I'm just looking to make the League of Venice threads interesting.

Hey Greal, the League of Venice is a group of nations spearheaded by Italy and Austria that are trying to form a League to defend each other in the event of an attack on Europe. We have received a lot of criticism, especially from Asian forces, but a lot of European nations as well, because there is speculation that we want to start colonization and imperialism again. But all that we have proposed so far is a united Europe to defend against attack from superpower nations of Asia and the Americas.

I mean no offence, but you are kind of misleading Greal there. The whole reason so many nations were against it was because, in the very first post Moorington said "This shall usher in a new age of European expansionism and domination!" and it wasn't until he realised that most nations disliked the idea he changed it. Now I'm not even sure what's going on, as a purely defensive alliance would not have got oppositon, the issue people had was because it was labelled an offensive alliance by its leader. It would be useful to know what is going on there for the world really. ;)

I mean no offence, but you are kind of misleading Greal there. The whole reason so many nations were against it was because, in the very first post Moorington said "This shall usher in a new age of European expansionism and domination!" and it wasn't until he realised that most nations disliked the idea he changed it. Now I'm not even sure what's going on, as a purely defensive alliance would not have got oppositon, the issue people had was because it was labelled an offensive alliance by its leader. It would be useful to know what is going on there for the world really. ;)

We're aware. Me and Moorington are working together.

Austria started the League, and Italy supported it on the grounds that there would be no expansion of Europe by the members of the League. The idea now is that while one of the radical leaders of Austria still wishes for expansion, Italy's presence has worked together with the rest of the Austrian government to keep the radical presence in check.

Don't worry, things will spice up; we have quite a few plans for this thing. We're planning on making it epic :-)

Factbook...well a start.http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555740

Honestly, who cares? Get raped.

Don't flame.

My last factbook got kind of scattered, so I've created a new one. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13659636#post13659636) Mods, could you please replace the link on the first page with this one? Grazie.

Don't flame.

why are you still here? if you quit, go away.

My last factbook got kind of scattered, so I've created a new one. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13659636#post13659636) Mods, could you please replace the link on the first page with this one? Grazie.

while you are doing that can you add my factbook. It's been up since Tuesday but hasn't been added.

LINK (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555604)

People, ignore Akimond and the other trolls - they're sticking around because they have nowhere else to go, just like those people we all know around school or work or whatever it is you do. Don't feed the fire - let them pass on to whatever life they live. Honestly, we're the bigger people here - let them move on.

Now that that's out of the way:

Ka-Spel: I'll invade Crete if you'd like...though I'm not sure if you'd prefer me to actually invade it (ie, send in two CVBGs and follow up with an invasion fleet) or just send maybe one CVBG and a SAG or two to clean house.

Pyeki: I'll fund your nation for a...certain price. Not money. We can discuss in the IC thread if you'd like, just send my gov't an overture of military/economic benefits and we'll gladly respond. Gotta counter Russia, after all...

I'll get updating the factbooks on pg. 1

Just noticed you got rid of me on page one. I am on here everyday and my factbook is below.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13650188#post13650188

can i have iraq and iran and name them the peoples rublic arbaib

can i have iraq and iran and name them the peoples rublic arbaib

Say what?

Do you mean, "Can I have Iraq and Iran and name them the People's Republic of Arabia?"

Ka-Spel: I'll invade Crete if you'd like...though I'm not sure if you'd prefer me to actually invade it (ie, send in two CVBGs and follow up with an invasion fleet) or just send maybe one CVBG and a SAG or two to clean house.


Hey, you just missed the boat. I got someone else to do it. Thank you, though.

could they be my country or they takrn

taken sorry

Yes, they may be your country. Although here on the forums we use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation. If you hope to live up to the expectations of this board and the level of this roleplay I suggest you start adpating such. I am well aware that this is not 'school' but it is quite polite to speak so that everyone - even those untrained in any form of 'netspeak' may understand you. Also, when writing in-character posts, post in paragraphs.

Bye-Bye.

I really want to join, but all of the nations with any decent GDP are taken...

WAIT! I claim Andora, Monaco, and Luxembourg!

CAN THE MOD PLEASE UPDATE THE LIST TO CONTAIN MY FACTBOOK AND ALSO PLEASE CORRECT THE SPELLING OF MY NAME ON SAID LIST

SEE LINK ON SIGNATURE FOR FACTBOOK URL


THANK YOU

I really want to join, but all of the nations with any decent GDP are taken...

WAIT! I claim Andora, Monaco, and Luxembourg!

Franberry claimed Malta, Monaco and Andora. The map is old. Many nations have left. Liechenstein, Vatican City and San Marino as well as Luxembourg are still open in terms of micro states.

Well, blah. Okay, then. Can I get a list of Nations that are still available?

You want me to list approximately 135 nations? No way! I do belive that in Europe the following are unclaimed:

The Balkans without Turkey, Croatia and Greece
Luxembourg, Liechenstein, Vatican City, San marino
the Baltic States
Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland

Can I claim Peru, Bolivia and Chile?

Protip: Restraint is not posting when you are suspended, and not getting suspended in the first place. There's a reason I (and many others) have never been suspended, and I can assure you it's not because I am, as you so eloquently put it, a "retard." (I cannot speak to the mental state of others, though I doubt that there are many on this forum with a mental disability)

For goodness sake, is civility truly so dead that people playing a simple text based game can't even express some base level of courtesy towards each other? Has Western society fallen so far as to honestly promote this type of inanity? This thread is horrid.

And I'd even thought about getting in on this.

Of course, it seems this noob styled 'mass bail to destroy other people's work for fun' does not only go unpunished, but is seemingly condoned by making the people (Like myself) who rage against it banned. What can I say? I'm much appalled.

Apparently DENIAL isn't just a river in Africa.

I requested to RP as Hong Kong and Macau in this particular senario, and was refused on the basis that they're governed by the PRC in real life. When I pointed out that if Hong Kong and Macau are integral parts of China, and inquired as to why Svalbard and Puerto Rico are not, for whatever reason, integral parts of their respective countries in this RP, Amazonian Beasts flat out refused to discuss the matter further.

Akimonad, Kampfers, Granate, Jaredcohenia, and Rowle all left this RP because they're fed up with the double standards applied by the game mods for this RP, as well as their conduct and the conduct of other players towards the players who wished register a complaint about the manner in which the RP was progressing.

Deciding that people who disagree with you and the mods are "noobs," "retards," "trolls," or part of a "goon squad," among other terms I've seen used thus far, is extremely unprofessional and is bound to result in a very poor quality RP.

May I claim Sri Lanka, Philippines and Papua New Guinea?

Protip: Restraint is not posting when you are suspended, and not getting suspended in the first place. There's a reason I (and many others) have never been suspended, and I can assure you it's not because I am, as you so eloquently put it, a "retard." (I cannot speak to the mental state of others, though I doubt that there are many on this forum with a mental disability)

For goodness sake, is civility truly so dead that people playing a simple text based game can't even express some base level of courtesy towards each other? Has Western society fallen so far as to honestly promote this type of inanity? This thread is horrid.

And I'd even thought about getting in on this.

Courtesy over a text game? You are by and far the most deluded person I've meet in my sort, but fufilling life. Regardless, neither you, or really anyone else who has left, has shown a large amount of courtesy, merely a dramatic flair when they leave... Indeed, I believe that while I treat you less courtesly then you treat me... You are by and far, miles (or kilometers, if you so prefer) from a shining example of courtesy.

I do not mince words in real life, nor in this text game- a personality flaw, yes; yet apparently it has a good affect because at this point you've conceded the fact that you are indeed wrong (or at least not right) in exchange for criticising me in how I do... Indeed bang your collective heads with the fact that some people want to move on, and don't need you in this thread anymore. Of course, feel free to stay- I can rant far beyond the point where it is appealing in any case.

Apparently DENIAL isn't just a river in Africa.

I requested to RP as Hong Kong and Macau in this particular senario, and was refused on the basis that they're governed by the PRC in real life. When I pointed out that if Hong Kong and Macau are integral parts of China, and inquired as to why Svalbard and Puerto Rico are not, for whatever reason, integral parts of their respective countries in this RP, Amazonian Beasts flat out refused to discuss the matter further.

Akimonad, Kampfers, Granate, Jaredcohenia, and Rowle all left this RP because they're fed up with the double standards applied by the game mods for this RP, as well as their conduct and the conduct of other players towards the players who wished register a complaint about the manner in which the RP was progressing.

Deciding that people who disagree with you and the mods are "noobs," "retards," "trolls," or part of a "goon squad," among other terms I've seen used thus far, is extremely unprofessional and is bound to result in a very poor quality RP.

Akimonad (or maybe Jaredcohenia) left because he felt that AB should have kept the Monroe Doctrine... Apparently, the double standard he could not deal with happened to do with his inability to govern AB's foreign policy.

Kampfers left for no stated reason; along with Granate and Rowle (who has not mentioned, anything, really and whom I believe is a puppet of someone or another).

The 'horrible' double standards of which you rage against do not exist. Puerto Rico is a commonwealth member, and America has always been a democracy unwilling to associate itself with its colonies; unlike China.

Norway and Svedberg... Are you really serious in saying you have a complain over Svedberg? Mein Gott... I have nothing to say.

No... What is unprofessional would be to sit on my hands... Moreover, have this RP dragged through the mud because apparently, you have nothing better to do (which is quite sad in of itself). Do you honestly think you can go around in your life trashing other people's work and expect to get away with it? Do you honestly expect, knowing me, to get away with such lame excuses as 'double standards' (that involve "vital" countries like Puerto Rico, Honk Kong, Svalberd, Macau, oh the horror) and me to nod to myself... Wrong, but I deserve it?

No... Not quite.


((Ah, it seems I cannot quite keep my word. Some injustices just cannot be seen as the scenery that goes by in a car.))

May I claim Sri Lanka, Philippines and Papua New Guinea?

Phillipines and Papau are claimed already, methinks.

Post Note: Amazonian Beasts (and Candistan) is one of the best, and cordial, RPers on this forum. Saying that he is anything but, will just inflame me to continue to show you what he is not. Indeed, your complaints against him to inspire me to remind you just how much lower you are then an actual RPer who resembles competency.

alright, North Korea, Sri Lanka, and New Zealand

Midlauthia: Glad to have you aboard, confirmed. Same with you, Astater.

Guys, sorry to keep harping on it, but: please ignore the haters. They're just using your well-intentioned posts as fuel for their agendas, and we don't really need to bend down to their level. No point sacrifing yourself and possibly recieving mod looks for it - my condolences, Moorington, but I do thank you for your (enthusiastic) support. If they can't get over something minor (and something not even related to real life), that's their problem - let's not let it become our problem, too.

Updated the front, as well - sorry 'bout the missing that, Neo-Ishtaria, you're updated.

Mussleburgh: you were never knocked off the front page...I just gave you a bad mint green color that's hard to see (I was running out of colors).

AB i would seriously advise that you do not support mooringtons words earlier in the thread....

The way he has acted has made me glad i was forced to bail for RL reasons or I'd be bailing now.

Yes those people may be causing a small riot but, his actions are way way out of control.

Hmm, could I claim the following nations:

Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan

In-character for the purpose of this roleplay, I would like my nation to be called: The Theocratic Republic of Mandeyānā

Not sure if this post got lost or not.

Yes those people may be causing a small riot but, his actions are way way out of control.

Yes AB, I concur... He used a dirty word! :p

Heaven forbid! But just goodness gracious, that sort of flippery just puts a stone in my sock, deary it does- by jingo!

Haha, I couldn't resist.

Moving on-

Tokyoni, I believe all of those countries (lucky for you!) have just been recently vacated; except of course for Pakistan unless someone else knows better than I, I think you should start going to wikipedia and finding the relavant infomation.

Not sure if this post got lost or not.

Apologies, Tokyoni, but Pakistan is taken. Want Kazakhstan instead?

Exetonia, since I actually respect you: I've addressed the matter via TG, and frankly, I can't blame Moorington in such a situation - you've got to look at both sides there before judging his actions alone. I appreciate your good intentions, but I've got to take both things into account - this isn't quite Reverend Wright and Barack Obama.

Now, if OOC is the only thing you're looking to discuss, I politely ask that you excuse my thread...that's called NS courtesy, and I have faith that you, at least, have that.

Apologies, Tokyoni, but Pakistan is taken. Want Kazakhstan instead?


Uhh, sure, that's fine, thank you. ^^

Uhh, sure, that's fine, thank you. ^^

Sweet, confirmed. Just work on your factbook when you're ready (wikipedia and global security are helpful sites) and post its link here when you're done. Hit the IC thread for IC action.

OOC: Understood, i await that TG and shall not bother this OOC thread anymore, as per your request. as you said, it is common courtesy

OOC: Understood, i await that TG and shall not bother this OOC thread anymore, as per your request. as you said, it is common courtesy

Thank you very much, I appreciate your professionalism. TG flashed, to your main nation.

Actually, on second thought, I wonder if I'd be able to change Khazakhstan to Uzbekistan, just so my nations would "fit together better". If it's not taken that is; if it is, it's fine.

Actually, on second thought, I wonder if I'd be able to change Khazakhstan to Uzbekistan, just so my nations would "fit together better". If it's not taken that is; if it is, it's fine.

Certainly.

Alrighty. I need some more help.

I would like to unify the mini-nations of San Marino and Vatican City into Italy through diplomatic means. Since those countries are currently undeclared, I need someone to RP the Captain Regent of San Marino and either the president of Vatican City or the Pope; whichever.

Any takers?

Alrighty. I need some more help.

I would like to unify the mini-nations of San Marino and Vatican City into Italy through diplomatic means. Since those countries are currently undeclared, I need someone to RP the Captain Regent of San Marino and either the president of Vatican City or the Pope; whichever.

Any takers?

For the record, I'll take the Pope if you'd like and leave San Marino to someone else, unless another taker would prefer the role (in which case, you can gladly take over).

Alright, AB has taken the Papacy... anyone want to be the Captain Regent of San Marino...?

AB... mind if I start the thread?

Alright, AB has taken the Papacy... anyone want to be the Captain Regent of San Marino...?

AB... mind if I start the thread?

Go ahead, but I might not be able to respond 'til tomorrow...currently working on a long post in my character thread.

Yeah, it's late here; tomorrow morning I'll start it. Hopefully I'll have a San Marino by then.

Oh, for reference, I've at least started my factbook now. Link here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555802

Front page updated, Tokyoni.

why are so many people taking nations that are halfway across the world from each other? You say on page one that they must touch each other. If they are seperate, their navy has an advantage, because they are all over the world.

And if I see an Islamic terrorist...I'm leaving. Unless you have a reason better than: "Jihad!!!!"

9-11 didn't happen, the taliban doesn't exist, so no steriotypes of that sort have ever been made.

why are so many people taking nations that are halfway across the world from each other? You say on page one that they must touch each other. If they are seperate, their navy has an advantage, because they are all over the world.

Because it's down to slim-pickings at this point. There aren't too many nations left that touch each other that are of any real value.

why are so many people taking nations that are halfway across the world from each other? You say on page one that they must touch each other. If they are seperate, their navy has an advantage, because they are all over the world.

And if I see an Islamic terrorist...I'm leaving. Unless you have a reason better than: "Jihad!!!!"

9-11 didn't happen, the taliban doesn't exist, so no steriotypes of that sort have ever been made.

Actually, the navy's at a pretty big disadvantage - that's bad for home defense. Good for international policing, like the US does - so good if you have a massive navy. Bad for smaller nations, however. Ka-spel nailed that, as well - at this point, it's hard to grab anything of value that's close (the Peru claim and the "stan" claim, however, do follow the format, so it's actually still very much alive).

I don't think we're going to have a rush of radical Islam here, since that's not a major focus - it's not even a part of my history for American stuff, which focuses more on the Russian-American rivalry that Candistan and I have made exist to the present. I don't think you have anything to worry about there.

alright. y'know, Zimbabwe, Zambia, and Malawi look like three nations that can make a good RP...is a second nation allowed? I would call it the Democratic Republic of Rhodesia (if i can have it)

Hm, you're not going to like half of Pyeki's excuses for being belligerent towards the Indians, Indonesian States! Needless to say, the Pyekan-Kuogu has plenty of Islamic terrorists. That's because the junta has spent sixty years trying to erradicate the faith and replace it with their particular distorted form of Buddhism.

Not to worry, though, the Christians, Communists, Hindus, and everybody else has been getting the same treatment, and the Islamist militants are as much at war with the outlawed Pyekan Communist Party, Christian defence militias, and various non-Muslim or moderate rebel factions as they are with the National Army :)

Uiri, if you're reading, I'd just like to say that having a significant Pyekan minority in your nation is fine with me. This morning I was trying to decide who to ask to host the Pyekan Exiles Congress, a pro-democracy lobby group that some nations may even see fit to recognise as a government in exile, and Indochina seems as good a place as any, especially if you've hundreds of thousands of refugees and ex-pats et cetera.

In truth the junta has probably deliberately chased some communities across the border, partly to get rid of trouble makers and partly so they can accuse you of harbouring criminals, sponsoring rebel camps and so on, and make a stronger claim to your territory based on the number of ethnic Pyekan there! On the other hand, many of the Pyekan exiles may well be willing to act as spies for you, or join military operations against the Pyekan-Kuogu if you ever undertake any.

just to let you guys know, from 12:00AM +4GMT and 4 nights afterwards, I have a school trip, so I will not be online.

Lol, ironically enough, I think my nation might even indirectly sponsor some ANTI-Islamic terrorists once I get things fully up and running. (See factbook for background).

The Link again:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13650188#post13650188

Lol, ironically enough, I think my nation might even indirectly sponsor some ANTI-Islamic terrorists once I get things fully up and running. (See factbook for background).

Jeez....so much has happened; turn my back for five minutes....ok erm; to stay on topic - We'd be willing to support that Clandestinly; the empire is big on "Curbing Muslim agression" and has been for the last 50 odd years; more prevelently since the Second Arab-Isreali war *which birthed the empire* and the PLO Attacks of the 1970's which gave the empire an excuse to exterminate the PLO and its supporters.

By the way; who has Kuwait now?

Nothing much is going on, I may have to postpone the invasion of Belgium.

Jeez....so much has happened; turn my back for five minutes....ok erm; to stay on topic - We'd be willing to support that Clandestinly; the empire is big on "Curbing Muslim agression" and has been for the last 50 odd years; more prevelently since the Second Arab-Isreali war *which birthed the empire* and the PLO Attacks of the 1970's which gave the empire an excuse to exterminate the PLO and its supporters.

By the way; who has Kuwait now?

What about the Ka'aba, the holy islamic place of worship. Can the area have 'special status'.

I guess I am not that freindly to your nation, then.

No one has Kuait, an I am planning to invade Bahrain, Qatar and Kuait soon.

Jeez....so much has happened; turn my back for five minutes....ok erm; to stay on topic - We'd be willing to support that Clandestinly; the empire is big on "Curbing Muslim agression" and has been for the last 50 odd years; more prevelently since the Second Arab-Isreali war *which birthed the empire* and the PLO Attacks of the 1970's which gave the empire an excuse to exterminate the PLO and its supporters.

By the way; who has Kuwait now?

XD Technically my nation doesn't think very highly of any Abrahamic religion... but Islam is definitely their major target; so I think they could work a deal out, yes.

What about the Ka'aba, the holy islamic place of worship. Can the area have 'special status'.

I guess I am not that freindly to your nation, then.

No one has Kuait, an I am planning to invade Bahrain, Qatar and Kuait soon.

Well "Offically"; everything is fine and good on the outside; but secretly the empire has been working to contain the Muslims for 50 odd years; so while we're friendly; don't expect us to be overly friendly. All Holy sites however (Jerusulem, Mecca, Bethlehem etc) are open to anyone that wants to come; and the Security forces go out of there way to make sure that thousands of pilgrims each year can congrogate in peace for there various fesivals. we're not monsters really just paranoid. We will protect the pilgrims from the extrmists on both sides of the fence; Terrorism inside the empire is pretty much suicidal though we're not above funding radical groups in other nations ^_^ hope that explains it a bit?

I plan to invade Luxembourg soon, it will be quick and fast. It doesn't have an much of an army also, which is good for my invading forces.