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Earth: Second Resurrection


Overall Mod: Amazonian Beasts
Vice-Mod: Candistan
Map Mod: Kampfers

Update Ticker: 1st Cut Complete

IC Thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555456


Hello, and welcome to Earth: Second Resurrection! It's been a long time on the boards since a real, open, NS-contained Earth has popped up, so I thought with the long lapse in the theme I'd try a restart on a rather old pretense. As per many of the older Earths, this will follow the same style of real life Earth scale on the plane of NS sociopolitics.

My credentials: I've started three Earths to the date (my future-Earth, E22C [22nd Century], Earth: Final Judgment, and Earth: Survival). All three were moderately successful, and I was a temporary head mod of Earth: Suspension and Succession of Wagdog's brainchild, a highly successful NS-only Earth that introduced several new standards of Earths. Like the former NS worlds, ESR is intended and designed to maximize RPing potential while staying within the guidelines laid out by the mods regarding Alternate Histories.


On to the fleshy parts...


Suspension of Disbelief and Succession of States
The key ingredients to such Earths introduced by Wagdog for maximum fun. Rather than stick everything at a pure, stats-level web of threads, Suspension of Disbelief refers to the practice of incorporating "out-of-the-box" elements into the writing and storylines of Earths. What I mean by that: if you'd like for there to be a minority of vampires or elves in your country, that's your prerogative. Want a secret intel agency that investigates an actual alien crash site without the attention of other nations? Hit it with creativity.

The one factor in this is levelling the playing field. If you do decide to incorporate such factors into your realm, make sure that for every advantage they do give, a disadvantage also occurs. Maybe if you have super-smart and long-lived elves as a minority, perhaps they're persecuted. Or maybe they have weaker immune systems, making them more prone to infectious diseases or bioweapons. Have fun with your imagination. Of course, you can choose to ignore this factor in your realm, if you see fit.


How the Name "Second Resurrection" Stuck
First off, it's primarily because Earths have been so long out of the mainstream NS RPing field. There was a "golden age" of Earths, so to speak, when almost double digits of Earths were produced in a span of about 8 months, some tanking while others succeeded admirably. This is the attempt to bring back such passions and emotions for the old Earths, if not in a new plane of NS.

Secondly, Candistan liked it via MSN...and that was win.


Democracy in ESR
While there are of course mods (and one Vice Mod slot still open for volunteers), I intend for this primarily to be a player Earth - it's up to participants to carve the course of the world. As such, in coming up with ideas I won't be a dictator - things will be up to vote whether y'all like 'em or not, what ideas you have will be taken into deep consideration, and I encourage everyone to speak up with comments and questions.


Claiming Nations and Set-Up
I've simplified this a little bit. Rather than any sort of points system or classifications, you may now claim any three (3) nations that are close to each other, provided that two are not in the global top 5 for either their RL Gross Domestic Product or Population. Want France and Switzerland? Go for it. Norway, Sweden, and Britain? Sure. Spain, Morocco, and Libya? K. China and India? Negativo.

The reason for the stipulation is that I don't want someone to come in and absolutely dominate with a major supernation. Now, you can say that the US has a leg up on the competition that way - but that's why I have the US :D No but fo'real, it is in stability's sake.

That makes sense because of this: while you will be incorporating just about everything NS-style into whatever nation you make (including designing the history of your nation back to 1950, as well as incorporating your own leadership, culture, demographics, and the like) - you will incorporate the RL GDP, Population, and Land Area for your two nations chosen. This is to prevent everyone from having 6 billion-person nations and multi-hundred trillion GDPs. RL scale, NS style.

Mind you, when setting up your history - if you involve nations besides your own (and they are claimed), please consult with the other nation owner to collaborate, otherwise we'll have conflicting histories.


Conversions from NS
As this is a flexible Earth, in designing your military (everyone's favorite topic to make) or other aspects, you may use more advanced equipment than what said nation has avaliable. However, I do ask that to keep things on a RL scale, make a conversion - ie, if you have South Africa and its fighters and you want Su-35s, go ahead and switch 'em up - but reduce the number (on a proportion that's natural - honor system there) to compensate. In reverse, if you have F-22s and you want Mig-21s, you can definitely inflate the number of Mig-21s.

In the vein of that, everyone will be required to have a factbook (doesn't have to be giant, just with info) to allow other players to access their nation.

In addition, you can have custom or NS tech into your military/commerce/whatever, but if you do, please incorporate basic stats so the other players can figure it out.


Activity
The bane of all long-term RPs. I understand some situations arise, and as long as you tell me or another ESR mod about a situation arising, we'll gladly clear you for an absence. However, unannounced inactivity can't just go unmandated - if you're absent for more than 15 days without comment, ESR modship will have to open your countries for expansion/claim.

If you know you won't be the most active, than don't pick a major player like China - maybe go for Egypt or Algeria instead.


Mods
Word of the mods - Vice Mods, Me, or if we ever have any other sort of mods - is final. Anarchy doesn't work too well in OOC parts of Earths.

We are still looking for another Vice Mod and a Map Mods to update the map, so if you'd like either, chime in.


The Map

Ballin' :

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/b5cd07dc.png



Active Claims

The American Federated Republic: United States of America, Cuba, Jamaica
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555409)

The Russian Federation (Candistan): Russia, Belarus, Ukraine
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13644641#post13644641)

The United Kingdom (Wanderjar): Britain, Ireland, Canada

The Federal Dominion of Germany (Greal): Germany, France, Netherlands
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555339)

Mediterranean Alliance (Ka-Spel): Italy, Switzerland, Greece
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13659636#post13659636)

Grand Mongolian Empire (DPW): China, Mongolia, Kazakhstan
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13643394)

Kulivokia: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13646827#post13646827)

South-Asian Indian Confederacy (Honako): India, Pakistan, Bangladesh
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555394)

The Austrian Empire (Moorington): Austria, Hungary, Croatia
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555281)

Kansiovan Federation: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13643587#post13643587)

The Second Great and Bountiful Israeli Empire (Animarnia): Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555280)

Kampfers: Spain, Portugal, Morocco
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13646476#post13646476)

North Atlantic Federation (Ausfall): Greenland, Iceland, Denmark

Kingdom of Southern Arabia (Indonesian States): UAE, Oman, Yemen
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555290)

Xaristan: Libya, Egypt, Syria
Factbook (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13645305#post13645305)

Pyekan Kuogu (Pyeki): Indonesia, Burma, Thailand
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555370)

Kenavt: Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555362)

Mussleburgh: Turkey
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13650188#post13650188)

Federated Straits Settlements (Questers): Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555433)

Corbournne: Belgium, South Africa, Australia
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13651466)

Republic of Indochina (Uiri): Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555604)

Shamanistic Peoples of Sudeth-Kya (Neo-Ishtaria): Ethiopia, Sudan, Kenya
Factbook (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555563)

Nosovia: Namibia, Angola, Botswana
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555740)

Franberry: Malta, Monaco, Andorra

Midlauthia: Chile, Bolivia, Peru

Astater: New Zealand, North Korea, Sri Lanka

Tokyoni: Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan
Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555802)

Could I claim France, Germany, and Netherlands?

Could I claim France, Germany, and Netherlands?

You sure can.

Update: I'll update the map tomorrow unless we get a dedicated map-mod sometime soon...no rush, tho.

One more thing, Greal: what do you want your name to be?

The Federal Dominion of Germany :D

The Federal Dominion of Germany :D

Sounds good.

can i have australia/new zealand/new guinea/tasmania. ? i know you said that we could only have 3 but i figured that since 3 of these countries are miniscule maybe i'd get a break?

can i have australia/new zealand/new guinea/tasmania. ?

You're new, but if you're willing to be active then sure. Just make sure you've read the stickies, and know this RP requires a commitment.

What do you want your name to be?

All I have to do is conquer Belgium and Luxembourg :cool:

Could I have Norway,Sweden and Finland?

Call it the Kingdom of NorFinden? Unless you have a better name.

AB will be back on to confirm you tomorrow. Sit tight until then.

This seems interesting, though I'm not exactly sure what you're supposed to do once you get your countries. if someone wouldn't mind pointing me in the right direction, I'd like to take Italy, Switzerland, and Greece, and we'll call it the Mediterranean Federation.

Been a while since I last did one of these. I'd like to claim China (minus Taiwan; could be a fun RP there), Mongolia, and Kazakhstan, if you please, as the Grand Mongolian Empire, a communist (though not necessarily Marxist) state with a figurehead Khan.

Edited; i'd rather be "Mongolia" than "China" and have some fun with that.

How many countries can we claim? I'm not looking for massive land claims, mine would be in Eastern Europe.

I was thinking: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, and the Baltic states? (Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania)

If that's too much, I'll drop whatever amount is needed.

Name of nation: To be determined

I'm interested in India, though I'd gobble up Nepal, Bhutan and Bangeldesh (maybe) to round it up. Are we using the GDP (PPP) version or the nominal one, as it just effects how much I could pretend I was rich by? ;)

This seems interesting, though I'm not exactly sure what you're supposed to do once you get your countries. if someone wouldn't mind pointing me in the right direction, I'd like to take Italy, Switzerland, and Greece, and we'll call it the Mediterranean Federation.

Confirmed. Welcome to ESR!

Been a while since I last did one of these. I'd like to claim China (minus Taiwan; could be a fun RP there), Mongolia, and Kazakhstan, if you please, as the Grand Mongolian Empire, a communist (though not necessarily Marxist) state with a figurehead Khan.

Edited; i'd rather be "Mongolia" than "China" and have some fun with that.

DPW! It's been forever! I think AB will have to confirm this one since it's on the larger side, so just sit tight until then.


How many countries can we claim? I'm not looking for massive land claims, mine would be in Eastern Europe.

I was thinking: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, and the Baltic states? (Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania)

If that's too much, I'll drop whatever amount is needed.

Name of nation: To be determined

We can only have three nations, so just pick the three you want the most. Once you do, you'll be officially confirmed. Welcome to ESR.

I'm interested in India, though I'd gobble up Nepal, Bhutan and Bangeldesh (maybe) to round it up. Are we using the GDP (PPP) version or the nominal one, as it just effects how much I could pretend I was rich by? ;)

Once again, pick three. It's nice to have you back, Honako.

It's awesome that a lot of the old earth regulars are joining up. I can't wait to work with all of you again.

Hey y'all, when I finish my other post I'll edit map/claims accordingly.

Fighter: Do take note that that'll need a big commitment. Be sure to be active. Confirmed.

Ka-Spel: Same as Fighter.

DPW, Glad to see you around still! Haven't seen you forever - confirmed, of course.

Kuli: It's 3, so I'll just knock off the baltic states and give you Poland, Czech, and Slovakia.

Honako: Want India, Bangladesh, and Bhutan? I figure that'd be the best 3-party out of those.

Hey, could I claim Austria, Hungary and Slovakia as, if rather generic, The Austran Empire?

Hey, could I claim Austria, Hungary and Slovakia as, if rather generic, The Austran Empire?

Good to see you in Moorington, but Slovakia's already claimed. Want something else around there?

Could I claim Mexico to Panama as the United Provinces of Central America?

Good to see you(r) in
I hate to brag... Excessivly, but I get that a lot.

:fluffle:

:)

Moorington, but Slovakia's already claimed. Want something else around there?

On second thought, I think re-creating the Hapsburg Dynasty is only so fresh after you've done it half a dozen times... Lets go North!

Can I switch my claim over to Norway, Sweden and Finland? As just the Kingdom of Sweden?

The Kansiovian Federation

Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.

Could I claim Mexico to Panama as the United Provinces of Central America?

Read the claims section. Only three nations.

Buddha C: Too many countries, you can max at 3. Pick 3 of those and stick with it.

Moorington: My bad, lack of sleep this week. Usually I'm a good speller ;) Croatia sounds good with Hungary/Austria.

The Kansiovian Federation

Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.

Seeing as I confirmed you via MSN...

Can I get India, Buhtan; and Bangladesh ?

or Alternatively: - Isreal, Jordan, Saudia Arabia?

Can I switch my claim over to Norway, Sweden and Finland? As just the Kingdom of Sweden?


Sorry to say but I beat you to the punch their! Sorry!


Fighter: Do take note that that'll need a big commitment. Be sure to be active. Confirmed.

I sure will be!Thanks! :)

My bad. Nicaragua, Panama and Colombia, please. Same name :)

Can I get India, Buhtan; and Bangladesh ?

or Alternatively: - Isreal, Jordan, Saudia Arabia?

Israel/Jordan/SA, you're in. Glad to have you, Animarnia.

Fighter: Good to hear.

Buddha: Confirmed.

Everyone: Because Kansiov is pestering me on MSN :D I'll update the map/claims in about 20-30 minutes.

Lol, happens to the best of us Amazonian.

Well, I did edit my post so that everyone is decisivly confused... Myself included- so I'm just going to pull my claim out of the confusion and once again 'claim' Austria, Hungary and Croatia a the keepers.

The Austrian Empire shall once again rull the Balkans!

Or more likely not... But it'll be a good run all the same.

Actually Sorry to be a pain but could I make that India, Napal, Bangladesh instead? I'd like Bhutan too since tis tiny by thats to many and Napal is far more useful to me to keep out China if I have to ^^

With my same Alternate should that be a problem? I


- Edit -
So I have Isreal, Jordan and Saudi?

Regarding several things I missed:

Animarnia, Honako already got India/Bhutan/Bangledesh...sorry 'bout that.

Moorington, missed this earlier: Fighter already has the three nothern countries...stuck with the Austria claim, or you can switch it up for anything not take if you want.

Regarding several things I missed:

Animarnia, Honako already got India/Bhutan/Bangledesh...sorry 'bout that.

Moorington, missed this earlier: Fighter already has the three nothern countries...stuck with the Austria claim, or you can switch it up for anything not take if you want.

Ah; Sorry about that :) I thought he had somewhere in Europe ^^ Fair nuff I'm happy with Isreal and some middle east states..gimme a bit to caculate my budget..whats our tech limits?

Does Isreal include the west bank and Gaza?

Ah; Sorry about that :) I thought he had somewhere in Europe ^^ Fair nuff I'm happy with Isreal and some middle east states..gimme a bit to caculate my budget..whats our tech limits?

2012 is the starting year.

GDP is PPP, btw, everyone (question asked earlier and I missed it).

Yea, Palestine is included (WB and Gaza).

2012 is the starting year.

GDP is PPP, btw, everyone (question asked earlier and I missed it).

Yea, Palestine is included (WB and Gaza).

Ok so..would I be allowed the Queen Elizibeth Class Carrier and the JSF's? should I so wish?

Ok so..would I be allowed the Queen Elizibeth Class Carrier and the JSF's? should I so wish?

If you translate your appropriations (via the first post's requirements), then yeah.

As a reminder, y'all get the opportunity to right your own history of the last 50 years. While you're still required to use proportional military stats to modern day, you can set things up in your country essentially as you'd like.

Lol, happens to the best of us Amazonian.

Well, I did edit my post so that everyone is decisivly confused... Myself included- so I'm just going to pull my claim out of the confusion and once again 'claim' Austria, Hungary and Croatia a the keepers.

The Austrian Empire shall once again rull the Balkans!

Or more likely not... But it'll be a good run all the same.

Note to self- don't re-edit your posts... If you don't know what you want- how will AB know?

If you translate your appropriations (via the first post's requirements), then yeah.

As a reminder, y'all get the opportunity to right your own history of the last 50 years. While you're still required to use proportional military stats to modern day, you can set things up in your country essentially as you'd like.

Works for me :) I'll be using mostly European stuff opting to "buy" any more advanced things that I might want; and only 50 years? is that a hard limit?

Works for me :) I'll be using mostly European stuff opting to "buy" any more advanced things that I might want; and only 50 years? is that a hard limit?

I'm saying roughly World War II - it's a good reference point and major global event. Before or after that point, whatever's good.

Kampfers grabs Spain, Portugal, Morocco.

Actually could I be called the Northern Kingdoms of Scandinavia?

I would like to join and claim, Iceland, Greenland, and Lichtenstein if they aren't too far away from each other. I would also like to call it the North Atlantic Federation.

Can I take UAE, Oman, and Saudi Arabia? And since they're so small, I will take Qatar and Bahrain if possible.

Name: The United Kingdoms (or Sultanates or Emirates) of Arabia, or just Arabia.

Edit: Oh noes! someone took Saudi Arabia. I need at least the eastern part of this to work. Oh well, if I can't have it, I will take one of these two claims, but I still really want my original one


Claim 1: Indonesia, New Guenea, and Malaysia. If possible Brunei

CLAIM 2: Tibet (If they can be seperated from the person having China. Tibet wasn't part of China at the time, so I think I'm free to have it if possible), and Nepal.

CLAIM 3: Zimbabwe, Mozambique, and Tanzania. If possible Malawi.

I would like to join and claim, Iceland, Greenland, and Lichtenstein if they aren't too far away from each other. I would also like to call it the North Atlantic Federation.

I would choose somewhere else closer to your other claims instead of Lichtenstein if I were you. Maybe try Denmark instead?

Can I take UAE, Oman, and Saudi Arabia? And since they're so small, I will take Qatar and Bahrain if possible.

Name: The United Kingdoms (or Sultanates or Emirates) of Arabia, or just Arabia.

I believe Saudi Arabia is taken (Animarnia?). Any other choices?

Hey AB, it's Ambrose-Douglas, remember me?

Anyways... I'll grab Israel, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia. Please and thanks.

Indonesian States: Saudi's taken, so I'll check you Qatar. If you want something else, go ahead and change.

Hey AB, it's Ambrose-Douglas, remember me?

Anyways... I'll grab Israel, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia. Please and thanks.

Hey, welcome back AD! Israel/SA is already taken by Animarnia, but I'd encourage Algeria/Egypt/Tunisia or Libya...but that's just me.

Oh no way? AD is back? We have the whole crew reassembled!

Gah... I still have Egypt... hang on for the other two :)

Gah... I still have Egypt... hang on for the other two :)

Sounds good

How about Libya and Syria? Are those close enough?

I'll spot you Indonesia, Malaysia, New Guinea, sounds good.

How about Libya and Syria? Are those close enough?

Sounds ok to me.

Sweet... Mediterranean and Middle East domination... here I come. :)

Just wait until you see my revised gov't AB, it's sick.

Applause to Animarnia for getting a factbook done so damned fast! :p

I'll spot you Indonesia, Malaysia, New Guinea, sounds good.

How about Brunei? It was part of England until 1984, I believe, and it's very small.

How about Brunei? It was part of England until 1984, I believe, and it's very small.

Three max, sorry, but I can't make exceptions or everyone will want one. It's kinda like legislation - you make examples and your base dies.

Factbook linked for Animarnia, claims updated.

Applause to Animarnia for getting a factbook done so damned fast! :p

I still have a lot to do and I'm still tweaking it

Please put my claims on the active claims thread, here they are again in case you forgot.
Name: United Provinces of Central America
Claim: Nicaragua, Panama and Columbia

My bad, got a little busy. I'll get you up ;)

Quick question... are populations based on the countries that we actually chose, or are they some fraction of our in-game population?

Quick question... are populations based on the countries that we actually chose, or are they some fraction of our in-game population?

Based on RL pops, as is Econ (GDP PPP) military (proportional, see first post) and land.

First post has everything you should need.

You broke the page with your first post. ;)

You broke the page with your first post. ;)

I win the interwebz!

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/21f9b81a.png

Updated map with NS nation names.

Factbook! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555281)

The military, history, and geography all need help- a good start though.

I'm very, very sorry to make this hard for you, but I'm too freakin' tired of being Indonesia. Can I just claim UAE, Oman, and Yemen? Thank you very much. (It would be called the Kingdom of Southern Arabia)

Factbook for the Federation of Xaristan.

Just saw the confirm for my claim; i'll try to get a factbook up tomorrow (as i'll be busy for the rest of the night; Ragnarok Online parties FTW).

Factbook (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13643282&posted=1#post13643282) for the Federation of Xaristan.

That's interesting, but I was just thinking about a possible claim in South East Asia, and trying to decide how to lay it out. If Indonesia's available I'd be interested in combining it with Burma and Thailand to create the Pyekan Kuogu.

That sounds like a pretty big claim, I have to admit, but then it's nothing next to some of its regional neighbours like the Mongolian Empire and Hanoko.

I imagine Pyeki as extremely backwards technologically, with an explosive birth rate that it can't really manage.

Hm, what do you think about that? Indonesia doesn't actually border Burma or Thailand, but it's just across the Strait of Malacca, which would be a barrier even if I used Malaysia instead.

Using the CIA factbook as a guide that's 3,111,940 square kilometres of territory including land and water (slightly smaller than RL India), 350,763,834 people (a bit above the USA (actually about the US plus Burma)), and $1.456 trillion GDP in PPP terms (not far above Spain) or roughly $4,160ish in per capita terms (similar to Sri Lanka or Georgia). It still leaves Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, the Philippines, East Timor, Papua New Guinea, and Brunei in SE Asia unclaimed, so far as I've noticed.

Presumably we'd be one of those nations that could become a significant power in years to come, but isn't there yet. Because of the way I plan to run Pyeki, it'd have to look pretty likely that we're never going to get there.

I like the idea of antagonising neighbours despite a clear lack of capability to invade the regional powers, and all those little islands and small nations around are ripe for low-intensity conflict situations.

Paranoid junta FTW!

Factbook (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13643282&posted=1#post13643282) for the Federation of Xaristan.

You can just edit your post, you know. :p

Pyeki, you could take indonesia and/or malaysia since I don't want it anymore.

You can just edit your post, you know. :p

Hush, I'm lazy, lol

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13643394), at least a rudimentary one. Like I said, i'll put more in tomorrow, but it's nearly 2 AM here and I crave some rest.

Pyeki, you could take indonesia and/or malaysia since I don't want it anymore.

That's what I was thinking :) Nice mix of larger and smaller neighbours, there. Indonesia, Thailand, Burma, would be ideal for me. I'll leave poor little East Timor out of it, though. Well, for now, heh.

I think it is fairer to use a nominal GDP, since some country's PPP is way off, as compared to the GDP nominal value.

Facetbook started. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555294) Please, feel free to comment to give me advice or critique. I'm fairly new at this.

Secondly, mods - may I change the name of my "country" to the "Mediterranean Alliance" in stead of "Federation"? I plan on using a lot of RL history here, and my plan is to create a unification of separate countries unified under one government after WW2. In other words, Switzerland, Italy, and Greece were all separate countries at one point, but no longer. (I realize that the FB says "Mediterranean Federation"; I wanted clearance before I changed it.)

Thanks in advance.

Hallo! I'd like to take Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay.

Yes, I am an experienced RPer. I was Vanek Drury Brieres, now my account is deleted and I forgot my password.

could I claim the Tri-Nations (Australia, New Zealand and South Africa? - edit: I am wekll ware that SA is no where near Australia or NZ, it just kinda made sense to me as a rugby fan :P I'll drop SA if needs be.

could I claim the Tri-Nations (Australia, New Zealand and South Africa?

I believe other than South Africa, the other 2 are taken.

I believe other than South Africa, the other 2 are taken.

didnt look like that on the map or the claims.. lemme check again.

Edit: begging your pardon, someone has attempted to claim them but never reposted by the looks of it. - i'll see what AB says and re-think accordingly.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555290

My factbook of the Kingdom of Southern Arabia/Sheikhdom of Arabia/Trucial States and Oman/whatever you want to call it

He actually never got back to either me or Candistan, so I'll approve it, Exetonia. Everyone else has gotten back to me in someway, either thru here, TG, or MSN.

Everyone approved/updated accordingly. I'd be going on my factbook faster, but today's the NFL Draft (and I'm a football psycho).

Factbook is coming soon.

I was wondering about India, Pakistan and Bangaldesh. It may seem like three big nations but infact all three combined still do not reach the population, economy or land size of say, China alone. Also, it complies with the rules as I have seen. However, I assume we can change aspects of our nations culture to make it similar to our own NS nation (as there would otherwise be vast religious differences in that selection).

Good to be around the old crowd of people doing earths. ;) I was gonna do my old Western European thing but people nabbed all those nations.

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555337)

I think it is fairer to use a nominal GDP, since some country's PPP is way off, as compared to the GDP nominal value.

dude; you have Japan, South Korea and Taiwan; changing from PPP to nominal will only give the richer nations even more of an advantage over everyone else; the only thing it does is hack china's economy down and make every african state virtually worthless to any one signing up

dude; you have Japan, South Korea and Taiwan; changing from PPP to nominal will only give the richer nations even more of an advantage over everyone else; the only thing it does is hack china's economy down and make every african state virtually worthless to any one signing up

Exactly, i'd rather go with PPP, myself. Not just because i'm China, of course. *ahem*

Exactly, i'd rather go with PPP, myself. Not just because i'm China, of course. *ahem*

Having a throat problem? :p

DPW: Want Oil? :D

Of course! China lieks teh oil.

*prepares an invasion of Animarnia to seize teh oil*

In all seriousness, sure, that'd be an arrangement i'd be most comfortable with. I need to fuel the PLA somehow, after all. :D Just wait till I clear my factbook for posting, and we'll see what we can set up. ;)

Facbook:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13643587#post13643587

A'ight, the first day of picks is over so I'm back to the NS scene after burning out my retinas and football IQ.

I'm still pumped about Derrick Harvey...

So anyway, back to IC stuff.

Kansiov: PPP levels the playing field and gives parity. It's like the NFL salary cap to the uncapped bullshit of MLB. Which would you rather have? Plus, neither one really gives anything to America, so I didn't have any favor there...

Honako: Yea, as usual you can mix and match - if you want an all-black population in India, that's your choice (or if you want a religion based off of West Side, that's also up to you).

I'll update factbooks accordingly.

I'll get a factbook up as soon as possible (48 hours) as im really thinking about how to play the trinations and the past 58 years of history that unified them... possibly SA wanting to try to distance itself from Africa or something like that.

Factbook (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13645305#post13645305) is here, in case you missed it, AB.

Of course! China lieks teh oil.

*prepares an invasion of Animarnia to seize teh oil*

In all seriousness, sure, that'd be an arrangement i'd be most comfortable with. I need to fuel the PLA somehow, after all. :D Just wait till I clear my factbook for posting, and we'll see what we can set up. ;)

Sure :) if anyone else wants Oil Deals then let me know since Oil Makes the world go around afterall :D

Sure :) if anyone else wants Oil Deals then let me know since Oil Makes the world go around afterall :D

The Federation needs oil :).

I got Alaska (which I'll rape the resources of), but I'll decide on either your oil or Wandy's, depending on who I can get a better deal off of...

I got Alaska (which I'll rape the resources of), but I'll decide on either your oil or Wandy's, depending on who I can get a better deal off of...

Oh yea, I forgot Canada has like a massive oil explosion... :D

Actually the North Pole has a lot of Oil Underwater Oil Fields as well.

Hey, I've got oil too... 1.72 million barrels per day. People forget about me and my little canal... :( YOU WILL REMEMBER!!!! :upyours:

Animarnia, you have a message too.

XD How about we rape poor Iraq between us?

lol, no one is going to want Iraq

lol, no one is going to want Iraq

Bomb everything except the airports and the Oil fields? XD

Edit: And a reply :P

Want an in-person meeting at Redemptio? If you do, I'll create the thread.

Want an in-person meeting at Redemptio? If you do, I'll create the thread.

Go for it :) I'll just have Molly turn up :)

http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13645454#post13645454

There's the thread.

AB, Telegram.

AB, Telegram.

I already corrected that on the front page...contact your map mod for map changes.

I already corrected that on the front page...contact your map mod for map changes.

My apologies.

Kampfers, Telegram.

[EDIT]
Costa Rica: Finalización de las Rutas Terrestres (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555361)

Forgot to post Factbook. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555362)

Could I get Namibia, Zimbabwe, and South Africa?

And for the hilarity factor, could I get the tiny Falkland Islands too? It'd contribute to an RPing factor.

South Africa already taken. You could grab Congo, or other Africa stuff...Asia still has some openings, as does South America and North America.

Iran, Iraq, and Kuwait are all open... so is Lebanon.

Could I get Namibia, Zimbabwe, and South Africa?

And for the hilarity factor, could I get the tiny Falkland Islands too? It'd contribute to an RPing factor.

That would be SOOO easy to take off you:P

So please do!

AB, please edit my factbook link onto the front page... the link is in my sig. I guess you missed it last time; no biggie. :)

Okay, how about Iran, Iraq, and Kuwait?

And of course, I'd love the Falklands.

That would be SOOO easy to take off you:P

That's what the Argentines said as well. Didn't work so well for them.

I'd like to get Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, if that can be done.

Okay, how about Iran, Iraq, and Kuwait?

And of course, I'd love the Falklands.



That's what the Argentines said as well. Didn't work so well for them.

Lol, the Argentines were using poorly trained conscripts with poor morale against british Marines... No competition really

Okay, how about Iran, Iraq, and Kuwait?

And of course, I'd love the Falklands.


That's what the Argentines said as well. Didn't work so well for them.

Oops worng island! :p

Anyone know where I can find Isreali/Saudi Anti-Air Equipment information?

I'm trying to stick to as much Isreali/Saudi stuff as they actually have access to as I can with a few exceptions ^^

I'd like to get Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, if that can be done.

Can do.

Jared: I'd make room since the Falklands are...the Falklands, but I can't waver from the 3-claim rule for the validity of my rules. Wanna axe Kuwait for the islands?

Animarnia: Can't help you much there. If it's not on Wikipedia (surpised it's not), not sure where you can get it.

Hey guys, a map update and a factbook for me will be up tonight.

Greal: Since you no longer are fascist, and I'm going to remain that way, our relations are low, ok? Just wanted to inform you of that before I posted my factbook.

Awesome. Time to start heedlessly jabbing the Chinese dragon and the Indian, uhm, peacock? Tiger! with a pointy stick. And maybe the Aussies, too.

Factbook in the works, but Pyeki is an absurdly complicated nation, and it's giving me a headache.

Awesome. Time to start heedlessly jabbing the Chinese dragon and the Indian, uhm, peacock? Tiger! with a pointy stick. And maybe the Aussies, too.

You mess with the Chinese dragon and he n00ks j00. *insert random gun smileys here*

But in all seriousness, i'm looking forward to RPing with you; I read your intro once upon a time and was instantly impressed. The fact that I still remember it is testament enough to how impressed I was. :D This oughta be a good RP on the Asian side of things.

Ani: Here you go... it's at the bottom of the page.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/iaf-equipment.htm

Aw, cheers man.

I'm trying to remodel that introduction for ESR. Here's my factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555370). It's still being developed, but I wanted to get the unusual character of the nation laid-out, first.

AB, can you put this thread (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555354) on the front page? As a thread for ESR... just so it'll be easier for people to find.

Factbook! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555281)

The military, history, and geography all need help- a good start though.

Just if AB was editing the front page.

Ani: Here you go... it's at the bottom of the page.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/iaf-equipment.htm

Ah Cheers :)

No worries... I use global security for all my military needs.

Map update: http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/esrmap.png

Beginning work on factbook

edit: god i need to spam somewhere and raise my postcount. that user title is GHEY

^^ indeedy and posted :)

Eek, it looks like other people on the map have four things (IE Kampfers)

The Falklands are tiny and don't do much, can't ya make another exception? If Kampf gets Morocco, Spain, Portugal, and Western Sahara...D:<

But if not, I'll take Kuwait. Persian Empire, here I come :D

Except that Western Sahara is a part of Morocco... Well, depends on who you talk to, but still :p

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13646476#post13646476 << factbook

A'ight, the first day of picks is over so I'm back to the NS scene after burning out my retinas and football IQ.

I'm still pumped about Derrick Harvey...

So anyway, back to IC stuff.

Kansiov: PPP levels the playing field and gives parity. It's like the NFL salary cap to the uncapped bullshit of MLB. Which would you rather have? Plus, neither one really gives anything to America, so I didn't have any favor there...

Honako: Yea, as usual you can mix and match - if you want an all-black population in India, that's your choice (or if you want a religion based off of West Side, that's also up to you).

I'll update factbooks accordingly.

Thank you, and I'll assume my revised claim has been accepted.

Factbook Work in Progress (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555294)

Can I claim Brazil,Uruguay,Paraguay,Bolivia,Suriname,French Guiana,Guyana and Venezuela? Please? :)

Can I claim Brazil,Uruguay,Paraguay,Bolivia,Suriname,French Guiana,Guyana and Venezuela? Please? :)

For the love of god please read the rules.

For the love of god please read the rules.

Sorry doesn't matter.

Awesome. Time to start heedlessly jabbing the Chinese dragon and the Indian, uhm, peacock? Tiger! with a pointy stick. And maybe the Aussies, too.

Factbook in the works, but Pyeki is an absurdly complicated nation, and it's giving me a headache.

Peacock! I'll be a mixture of both, as India will be beautiful but quite fierce. I plan to be quite different to my usual left-wing state in this RP, going to the other side of the political spectrum and having a habit of heavily supporting "revolutionary" armies, if there are any. I'll enjoy RPing with you, its always fun getting into little surmishes with your neighbours, and I do have a habit of doing it (especially considering my leader has an unstoppable desired to highly influence all of South Asia).

Oh, and AB, my name will be the (South-Asia) Indian Confederacy for the sake of this RP.

After careful thought and rereading of the rules, having decided that I have experience with Alt Rps but not Earths I have decided to claim the Northern Island of New Zealand.Is that OK?

New Zealand is taken. Take a look at the map (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/esr/esrmap.png) to see what's available. You also have to come up with a name...

It's all on the first page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555188), my friend.

New Zealand is taken. Take a look at the map to see what's available. You also have to come up with a name...

It's all on the first page, my friend.

Right again I am sorry. I have read the rules three times and checked out the map. Can I pick Luxembourg or Iceland under the Peoples Republic of Mussleburgh?

Right again I am sorry. I have read the rules three times and checked out the map. Can I pick Luxembourg or Iceland under the Peoples Republic of Mussleburgh?

In my opinion, if you want to learn how the ropes work it would be better to perhaps to go slighter bigger with a single country. Luxembourg would be good for internal RP, RPing out your government and the like if thats what you want, but your not going to have much influence on the world externally. It's all up to you, but I'd say somewhere small but still with a bit of standing like Serbia or Croatia or something might be more interesting, and fill up the earth more usefully as well. Though if you'll only be here every so often and are not really knowledgeable in RPing (though I do recognize your name) a very small country might help, and it can be interesting to RP on a smaller, more internally focused level. Anyway, it's up to you.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13646827#post13646827

Factbook Up!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13646827#post13646827

Factbook Up!

You mean Factbooks up :p :p :p

In my opinion, if you want to learn how the ropes work it would be better to perhaps to go slighter bigger with a single country. Luxembourg would be good for internal RP, RPing out your government and the like if thats what you want, but your not going to have much influence on the world externally. It's all up to you, but I'd say somewhere small but still with a bit of standing like Serbia or Croatia or something might be more interesting, and fill up the earth more usefully as well. Though if you'll only be here every so often and are not really knowledgeable in RPing (though I do recognize your name) a very small country might help, and it can be interesting to RP on a smaller, more internally focused level. Anyway, it's up to you.

I understand, would Turkey be a good option? Also as a side note I am likely to be active once per day because of exams. :mad: However I will post when ever I can. You know me as the Persian Empire remember?

You mean Factbooks up :p :p :p

I know, right? My damn computer was gliching.

I know, right? My damn computer was gliching.

Aye, anyway, wanna have good relations established between both our Nations?

Aye, anyway, wanna have good relations established between both our Nations?

I would most enjoy good relations between our two nations. Things may get a little hairy so it's good to establishm alliances now.

I just saw the map and saw some mistakes:
I have Yemen instead of Qatar, and Pyeki has Malaysian Borneo. Greal also has 5 countries: France, Switzerland, Leichtenstien, Austria, and Germany.

Also, should someone make a list of factbooks?

I would like to make a "Middle Eastern and North African Alliance", with Me, Jaredcohenia, Animarnia, Xaristan, and maybe Kampfers and Rowle. Whoever else claims nations in the middle east and north africa can feel free to join the alliance, too.

Please feel free to post in my Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555362) with Diplomacy, Offers, etc!

Indonesian States, would you mind having free trade between both our Nations? This is to ensure that we can further negotiate for a long term oil investment deal, and decrease the prices of oil due to the duty free oil that is coming in.

sure, why not.:)

So, how are we going to start ESR off? Are we allowed to start threads or are the mods going to do that?

I just saw the map and saw some mistakes:
I have Yemen instead of Qatar, and Pyeki has Malaysian Borneo. Greal also has 5 countries: France, Switzerland, Leichtenstien, Austria, and Germany.

Also, should someone make a list of factbooks?



No. I have Switzerland. It's hat little round piece sticking out of the north of Italy. Also, Moorington has Austria, which borders Italy from the Northeast. So Greal only has 3 nations, though without the political lines to distinguish the countries from each other, it is difficult to tell.

Also, I agree with making a list of factbooks.

My factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555394), which is open for diplomacy (though military needs to be completed and more basic information is to be added). Oh, and I'd prefer it if we didn't have to go through the whole embassy thing and just assumed you all have an embassy, as you most probably would in the real world. It'll save time, and makes sense.

Also, Indian Confederacy news feed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555395) for information on my nation.

Once again, TG your map mod with comments about the map.

About the alliances: sure, go for it. We usually make alliances in the Earths as it is...

Accepted, Jared & Mussleburgh (latter as Turkey)

Front page updated with factbooks.

As to start off the Earth, today probaly I'm gonna make a general IC thread to simply kick things off, with a list of threads at the top of such thread along with my first post about IC matters. From there numerous stuff can start and spin off into separate threads, while the general IC thread will continue for...general stuff.

I am currently in the process of trying to lift my nation out of poverty and into work, by giving more funds to education etc. to generally improve my economy and try to get a 13% annual growth rate, get poverty down to about 15% (it will have natural fallen abit anyway in the time from 08 to 2012) and make everything great! ;)

Anyway, if anyone wants their private sector companies (or the public sector) to invest I would most welcome it. For you the benefits are cheap labour and a population who with better education will be trained to do jobs in manufacturing and services industry. For me the benefit is people working and improving my economy. However, I would ask for the companies to invest in the education, and it makes sense, considering with your investment the training will be helped so more people will be able to create products such as cars or computers etc. for the company. I'd be looking for investing in the manufacturing and service industries, not farming etc. though however.

Double Post

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13647115&posted=1#post13647115

League of Venice!

Observers from all over the world are invited, but potential European member countries are most desired.

For you see, this is European only!

Cool, I can't wait till this starts up.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13647115&posted=1#post13647115

League of Venice!

Observers from all over the world are invited, but potential European member countries are most desired.

For you see, this is European only!

Except for Brazil with Julio Ricardo..... whatever his name!!!

Do I get the Falklands?

plzplzplzplz D:

I just saw the map and saw some mistakes:
I have Yemen instead of Qatar, and Pyeki has Malaysian Borneo. Greal also has 5 countries: France, Switzerland, Leichtenstien, Austria, and Germany.

Also, should someone make a list of factbooks?

I would like to make a "Middle Eastern and North African Alliance", with Me, Jaredcohenia, Animarnia, Xaristan, and maybe Kampfers and Rowle. Whoever else claims nations in the middle east and north africa can feel free to join the alliance, too.

No, Greal's nation is correct, as is yours. You don't have Yemen. Yemen is unclaimed and gray.

Note to everyone: I don't want to be in a "european" or "african" or whatever bloc. Any alliances I join will be due to the course of the evolving earth dictating my IC policy, not me joining some alliance to dominate the world.

No, I mean I am supposed to have yemen, but on the map I have Qatar.

Haha, yay for European dominance!

Still need a Costa Rican NPC

I think you're just going to have to wait until someone incorporates that into their claim- personally I'm against having those early game NPC RPs that all seemed hurried, rushed, and whose only purpose is a big extension of 'I want X, X, and X.'

... "Haha, yay for European dominance!"
Noez.

Anyways, their is a legitimate RP reason for it, having a slab of land not-connect to my nation is such an eye sore, plus troop transportation would be much more costly and communications is a bitznitch.

Aight, if anyone wants to get in with the big bad Americans, my factbook's open

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555409

I'll get the IC thread going sometime tonight.

lul all ur persian gulfs r belong 2 me

i controlz da spices
i controlz da universe

Before Ic an make any sort of factbook, do I have the Falklands? By your 'accepted' it makes me think I do have the tiny Falklands.

plz :3

lul all ur persian gulfs r belong 2 me

i controlz da spices
i controlz da universe

Before Ic an make any sort of factbook, do I have the Falklands? By your 'accepted' it makes me think I do have the tiny Falklands.

plz :3

Jared: no. 3 is the limit for everyone - there's no special interest group. Sorry to hurt your feelings, but I can't make exceptions for anyone - otherwise I would've taken Mexico, too.

... "Haha, yay for European dominance!"
Noez.

Anyways, their is a legitimate RP reason for it, having a slab of land not-connect to my nation is such an eye sore, plus troop transportation would be much more costly and communications is a bitznitch.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love you to get a greenlight, if you someone to play as Costa Rica- it'd be a good precedence for something similiar I have in mind for Slovenia; yet then of course, we'd both establish just an amazing precedent for someone else who wants to dominate some other country, and then... We'd be sliding down that slippery slope- making excellent speed.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love you to get a greenlight, if you someone to play as Costa Rica- it'd be a good precedence for something similiar I have in mind for Slovenia; yet then of course, we'd both establish just an amazing precedent for someone else who wants to dominate some other country, and then... We'd be sliding down that slippery slope- making excellent speed.

Not when you have an NPC RPer who is willing to throw the entire NPC country at your troops...

Invade a country, and me or one of the mods will be there to RP the staunchest defense of the invadee. Be prepared to suffer losses.

Jared: no. 3 is the limit for everyone - there's no special interest group. Sorry to hurt your feelings, but I can't make exceptions for anyone - otherwise I would've taken Mexico, too.

I would say that there's a difference between Mexico (You know, an actual nation. Over 100mn population) and the Falkland Islands (tiny rocks inhabited with sheep).

But whatever, your loss D:<

I would say that there's a difference between Mexico (You know, an actual nation. Over 100mn population) and the Falkland Islands (tiny rocks inhabited with sheep).

But whatever, your loss D:<

I gave you the chance to dump Kuwait for it. Take what's avaliable or don't complain when you try to avoid what's already precedent.

If you want to go all technical, ok, I couldn't claim Christmas Island either. Or Bermuda. Or the Marianas. Or Samoa. Or Fiji. Or Nauru.

Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, s'il vous plait.

Could I grab Mexico, Venezuela and Alaska?

The name would be The Confederated Territories of the Americas or something like that.

can I get Singapore and Malaya? Thanks. I'd like the name to be "Federated Straits Settlements." thanks.

Yo, I want Turkey, Bulgaria, and Romania.

Name? The Incorporated Republics of the Black Sea.

Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, s'il vous plait.

I have claimed Pakistan. At least I think, though it hasn't been changed... :rolleyes:

I have claimed Pakistan. At least I think, though it hasn't been changed... :rolleyes:

Ah, well if that is the case: Mexico, Venezuela, Peru.

can I get Singapore and Malaya? Thanks.

lul @ matt raping the world with these two

Ah, well if that is the case: Mexico, Venezuela, Peru.

I just posted a few minutes ago to claim Mexico and Venezuela. >_>

Not when you have an NPC RPer who is willing to throw the entire NPC country at your troops...

Invade a country, and me or one of the mods will be there to RP the staunchest defense of the invadee. Be prepared to suffer losses.


Well a useless war of agression would be the sort of thing to really fill out what I'm trying to create in the Balkans... However it is entirely to early... So now I'm just stuck motivating Europe to do something.

I just posted a few minutes ago to claim Mexico and Venezuela. >_>

Sorry, I'm going by the first page.

Nigeria, Angola, Algeria?

Akimond: Alaska is a state of the United States of America, which I believe I claimed on the first post...Mexico and Venezuela OK'ed.

Questers OK'ed.

Honako: I think I got it right this time.

Granate: Turkey already claimed by Mussleburgh. Want anything else?

Corbournne confirmed.

The rest of the Open Balkan States, plz :>

Thanks man, I'll get to writing that factbook ASAP :D

The rest of the Open Balkan States, plz :>

Estonia, Latvia, Lith? Ok.

Whatever. Alaska was unmarked on the map. :/

Ecuador then.

Estonia, Latvia, Lith? Ok.

NO, BALKAN, NOT BALTIC D:<

*ANGRY FACE GOES HERE*

Whatever. Ecuador then.

Confirmed.


Good stuff still in South America, peeps...Chile, Peru, Bolivia (well, that's not really good)...

NO, BALKAN, NOT BALTIC D:<

*ANGRY FACE GOES HERE*

My bad. On this computer a lot today, it all looks the same...

What's still left in the balkans?

My bad. On this computer a lot today, it all looks the same...

What's still left in the balkans?

Hmmm, Macedonia, Serbia, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia, and... I dunno about this one Slovenia. All them pretty small and poor states.

Hmmm, Macedonia, Serbia, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia, and... I dunno about this one Slovenia. All them pretty small and poor states.

Want Albania, Bosnia, and Serbia? That's probaly the best combo.

Want Albania, Bosnia, and Serbia? That's probaly the best combo.

Fine.

Oh, and since I'm just in Latin America, please change the name to the Confederated Territories of Latin America. That should remove any confusion.

Wait...

If you have Alaska, wouldn't the UK have Jamaica and all that? :/

Want Albania, Bosnia, and Serbia? That's probaly the best combo.

Why not have Yugoslavia still exist as the SFRY? Since the disintegration really only began in the 90s, can't he retcon back and say those were put down?

Mediterranean Alliance (Ka-Spel): Italy, Switzerland, Greece

Switzerland is not a mediterranean country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beter is Italy,Finland,Greece

Why not have Yugoslavia still exist as the SFRY? Since the disintegration really only began in the 90s, can't he retcon back and say those were put down?

Except we claim from the modern world. I could theoretically, that way, claim the USSR as a major bloc, or claim the entire East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Jaredcohenia: Jamaica's its own country. Alaska is a state, not a colony (why I don't have Guam). Guess you should try claiming Florida, right?

Mediterranean Alliance (Ka-Spel): Italy, Switzerland, Greece

Switzerland is not a mediterranean country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beter is Italy,Finland,Greece

This man is my hero.

Also, do I have Romania, Bulgaria, AND Serbia, Albania, and Bosnia?

Except we claim from the modern world. I could theoretically, that way, claim the USSR as a major bloc, or claim the entire East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Yes, you could, at least with the USSR. I don't see why you don't.

The GEACPS was an affair in 1943, however, which would put it behind the 1950 retcon limit.

Also, do I have Romania, Bulgaria, AND Serbia, Albania, and Bosnia?

No, you get 3.

Does anybody, um, actually read the rules?

Rowle: Should I claim the entire human population? We're all one species, after all, and theoretically therefore one body of mind. Same sort of thought process.

What I'm trying to say sarcastically is that I'm trying to level the playing field. It gets stupid when one or two players just dominate everyone else, and that's an easy way to kill an Earth.

AB, will you go on MSN?
And what have I missed so far...this factbook is taking a while.

No, you get 3.

Does anybody, um, actually read the rules?

Rowle: Should I claim the entire human population? We're all one species, after all, and theoretically therefore one body of mind. Same sort of thought process.

What I'm trying to say sarcastically is that I'm trying to level the playing field. It gets stupid when one or two players just dominate everyone else, and that's an easy way to kill an Earth.

cha, Serbia, Bosnia, and Albania are pathetic countries compared to Romania and Bulgaria.

How about I get Romania, Bulgaria, and Macedonia.

wait; I see that Pyeki claimed Indonesia, Burma and Thailand but was given East Malaysia; Sabah and Sarawak. Why is that, and if that is a mistake, can I please extend my claim to Singapore and Malaysia so I get those two; after all, that is still two nations.

AB, will you go on MSN?
And what have I missed so far...this factbook is taking a while.

Hit me up about...7:30 to 8. I got a little bit of stuff to do between now and then.

You've missed...a lot? Heh, putting it lightly...we'll definitely have fun on MSN.

Questers: Kamp is the Map Mod, talk to him to work that out. The official claims are what's in writing - Kamp is still in the process of editing the map from time to time (as in...the USA has Alaska and Hawaii, Kamp ;) )

Granate: Confirmed.

Right, thanks, can you change my claim to Singapore and Malaysia for me though, since Pyeki didn't claim M'Sia? Thanks.

Also, temporary factbook pending this change: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13648289#post13648289

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13648018&posted=1#post13648018

This is my factbook so far. Still has a ways to go.

Also, Kampf, make sure Kaliningrad is under my territory on the map if it isn't already.

So many people!

Hey, new European players and anyone else that likes us: The League of Venice (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555397).

Oh, and AB, don't want to hurt your feelings, but everyone just reads the first and last paragraph of the first post- at least, until later.

Oh, and if someone would like to add Slovenia to their claims, feel free- you'd be a lot better than AB RPing the nation 'for' my invasions.

Since I haev one nation left, can I also claim Brunei? :D

Since I haev one nation left, can I also claim Brunei? :D

Go ahead. Confirmed again. :p

awesome, thanks

Moorington: yea, I kinda know 'dat...that's me venting because some people just arbitrarily try to come in without knowledge of the playing field.

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555438)

I am the United Balkan States, UBS for Acronym.

Make sure you make it to Vienna (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13648342#post13648342), I'm planning on wraping it up with some more hardly disguised threats toward the 'colonials'. So if you could mosey on over, a lot of reading I know, and post that'd be the best- if you plan on posting there at all.

It's really more of a 'interest' thread for the actual league, which will have a 'true' meeting in Venice next week, or mid week IRL.

Workin' on the IC thread...fyi, some of it'll be a little ambiguous, since me and Candistan are planning a couple story arcs.

Also gonna leave open a history section in the first post, along with a links section - if you have links to other IC threads, or if you want to put down historical details and events for your nation, go ahead and put them there and I'll add them to the first post.

Factbook
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555339

Due to unforseen circumstances i must relinquish my claims on the Tri-Nations

Sorry for the inconvinience.

This is due to the fact i cant commit 100% for the next 8 weeks and would thus cause problems.

Question: Its 2008 in ESR right? (Need to know for my history)

Exetonia: Best of luck.

Greal: Yup, 2008. Factbook put on pg. 1


South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand now open again to prospective joinees.

Workin' on the IC thread...fyi, some of it'll be a little ambiguous, since me and Candistan are planning a couple story arcs.

I hope my 'Holy League' of sorts isn't going to screw anything up- not that anyone in Europe is looking like they're about to join a pan-Europa sort of thing anyhow.

I hope my 'Holy League' of sorts isn't going to screw anything up- not that anyone in Europe is looking like they're about to join a pan-Europa sort of thing anyhow.

No, it definitely...won't. About there being villains? Oh, there will be villains...
I do encourage you to work on the idea, though - it's a good one and one I can definitely work with as America.

Once again, on the villians, Russia hasn't even gotten started :p

As soon as the story arch gets going, Moor, you will be pleased.

Villains abound! Egad! Guess i'm gonna have to be the superhero here.

Seriously, i'm going with my "benevolent socialists" shtick this time, but now I actually have the muscle to back it up. Mess around with me or my friends (or which I have none so far :p) and you get an ICBM or ten rammed up your ass. ;)

Though, erm, if America and Russia draw me into their dastardly plans, i'll go along with it. :D

Villains abound! Egad! Guess i'm gonna have to be the superhero here.

Seriously, i'm going with my "benevolent socialists" shtick this time, but now I actually have the muscle to back it up. Mess around with me or my friends (or which I have none so far :p) and you get an ICBM or ten rammed up your ass. ;)

I have more! :D

I have more! :D

That threat was mostly meant for the Europeans if they try anything... as to you and America, just leave me alone and nobody's citizens will have to be n00ked. :)

Villains abound! Egad! Guess i'm gonna have to be the superhero here.

Seriously, i'm going with my "benevolent socialists" shtick this time, but now I actually have the muscle to back it up. Mess around with me or my friends (or which I have none so far :p) and you get an ICBM or ten rammed up your ass. ;)

Though, erm, if America and Russia draw me into their dastardly plans, i'll go along with it. :D

Dastardly is a nice word :D

Considering that I haven't yet put up a factbook, could I trade Angola and Algeria for South Africa and Australia?

Mediterranean Alliance (Ka-Spel): Italy, Switzerland, Greece

Switzerland is not a mediterranean country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beter is Italy,Finland,Greece

Finland located in Scandinavia......

And Amazonian Beasts. I actually read the whole first post. Like geee...I thought everybody did!:headbang:

And my barely started factbook!!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13647704#post13647704

Considering that I haven't yet put up a factbook, could I trade Angola and Algeria for South Africa and Australia?

Sure can.


THANK YOU, Fighter ;)

Sure can.


THANK YOU, Fighter ;)

Np,now just give me a few n00ks,alot of oil and I be on my way! :P

Well, if America and Russia are going to form some sort of super evil dualarchy- I guess I'm going to have to be a merely demonic regional player. Too bad though, with Russia, there goes my trump card- eh, it just isn't the same with the hordes of Russian peons adding the heft to your affable diplomatic meetings demanding death to everyone.

Mediterranean Alliance (Ka-Spel): Italy, Switzerland, Greece

Switzerland is not a mediterranean country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beter is Italy,Finland,Greece

Well, technically you're right, but I have an affinity for the Swiss. And I don't want Spain (you know, the other Mediterranean country.)

However, I don't know where you're getting Finland from, homes.

Well, if America and Russia are going to form some sort of super evil dualarchy- I guess I'm going to have to be a merely demonic regional player. Too bad though, with Russia, there goes my trump card- eh, it just isn't the same with the hordes of Russian peons adding the heft to your affable diplomatic meetings demanding death to everyone.

Nah, we're not gonna be a dualarchy...we'll have ties some...other way. Might evolve, might not, that's up to how the RP rolls.

Well, if America and Russia are going to form some sort of super evil dualarchy- I guess I'm going to have to be a merely demonic regional player. Too bad though, with Russia, there goes my trump card- eh, it just isn't the same with the hordes of Russian peons adding the heft to your affable diplomatic meetings demanding death to everyone.

Fret not, Mr. Moorington. The Mediterranean Fed. will join your League. I'm slowly going to be phasing out the "Parliamentary Republic for a dictator anyway. Just gimme some time to see how things unfold. Next meeting is scheduled in the real Venice. Just make the thread whenever you want to start 'er up.

selling oil cheep contact saddam or pahlevi

Is my ESR military alright? (Check my factbook)

Is my ESR military alright? (Check my factbook)

Looks fine to me, seeing as you are France and Germany...

Thanks ka-Spel, at least I know I have someone watching my back- I don't if I'm going to get rid of my parlimentary system or just make it a puppet of... Trugen/Bismarck/Drekcsler. Let us just see how it works out. At any rate, we'll see if we can form an axis between Roma and Wein to which the world can move around.

[QUOTE=Candistan;13642989]I would choose somewhere else closer to your other claims instead of Lichtenstein if I were you. Maybe try Denmark instead?



You suggested Denmark and I'll take it! Thanks.

[QUOTE=Candistan;13642989]I would choose somewhere else closer to your other claims instead of Lichtenstein if I were you. Maybe try Denmark instead?



You suggested Denmark and I'll take it! Thanks.

No problem. It just seemed like a better choice considering it actually has a military.

Looks fine to me, seeing as you are France and Germany...

My history will be kinda “weird” like. I’m not sure how Germany got France and Netherlands in the first place.

Thanks ka-Spel, at least I know I have someone watching my back- I don't if I'm going to get rid of my parlimentary system or just make it a puppet of... Trugen/Bismarck/Drekcsler. Let us just see how it works out. At any rate, we'll see if we can form an axis between Roma and Wein to which the world can move around.

Yes. I added you on AIM. You'll be getting a message from me sometime very soon.

Well, if America and Russia are going to form some sort of super evil dualarchy- I guess I'm going to have to be a merely demonic regional player. Too bad though, with Russia, there goes my trump card- eh, it just isn't the same with the hordes of Russian peons adding the heft to your affable diplomatic meetings demanding death to everyone.

A dualarchy would be far from the truth. Any relations that we have are definitely the result of a bigger picture. The story arch will make that picture much more clear as time goes on.