NationStates Jolt Archive

Terre, go a few pages back. There was a conversation about your nation. It was decided that your economy boost is godmoding.

Yeah, well I'll try to prevent that. And if china does get uppity, it will help NATO out...

While I'm on the military subject, I'll have a post for Sweden's military soon in the Sales thread (Gripens...I need an interim as my "fifth generation fighter" project goes out)

Heres my fact book its not quite finish yet I couldn't get any info on Air Force but tell me what you think:)


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12710450#post12710450

Mussle: I can find you some Saudi AF info.

Everyone: How does Terre have all that equipment (some of which I don't recall him buying), with such a low GDP? Nicaragua is a third-world country, pretty much, and fairly unstable as well. Especially if the turmoil he describes is going on.

Hell, like that, I could buy Russia. Entirely.

Some of it he got from the US but he has made his country way too strong, economically and militarily. So pretty much by godmodding.

Mussle: I can find you some Saudi AF info.

Everyone: How does Terre have all that equipment (some of which I don't recall him buying), with such a low GDP? Nicaragua is a third-world country, pretty much, and fairly unstable as well. Especially if the turmoil he describes is going on.

Hell, like that, I could buy Russia. Entirely.

He doesn't. He claims to have a gdp of 194 billion, which is over 1000% higher than his actual GDP of 16 billion. we discussed this a few pages back, late last night, and determined it was god-moding

He doesn't. He claims to have a gdp of 194 billion, which is over 1000% higher than his actual GDP of 16 billion. we discussed this a few pages back, late last night, and determined it was god-moding

Ah. That's why that "Nicaraguan purchases" thread seemed a little off.

He doesn't. He claims to have a gdp of 194 billion, which is over 1000% higher than his actual GDP of 16 billion. we discussed this a few pages back, late last night, and determined it was god-moding

Which was brought up by me. Seriously, if Brazil has only one Carrier, and a old French 1957 Carrier at that, then how can Nicaragua have a freaking Kitty Hawk?

Oh cheers mate! I could really do with some info on that my milatry sucks right now.

Well, for starters, the Kitty Hawk is the ONLY ship of her class. The only other ship that comes close to it's Design/Class/Etc would be the USS Constellation. That ship is Decom''d, and nations [including the UK] have offered to buy such ship but have all been turned down. Carriers are EXTREMELY difficult to build and maintain, which is why most nations outside the US/UK/Russia[This RP - USSR]/China don't even have a single damned carrier ship.

Also, why the hell does Nicaragua need a Carrier? For fucks' sake, a Carrier is meant to deal with far away threats...not threats that are less than a US-State away! Anyways, apart from that -

It is not completely unrealistic for Nicaragua to build a Carrier Ship, but one like the Kitty Hawk or anything past the late 40s is just...it's never going to happen.

Also, the GDP jump is a total Godmod whether you believe it or not Nic'. Anyways, I'd say just go back to your original GDP and sit there and actually come up with a way to make it climb. In the mean-time, I'd avoid any war unless you know your Government is completely Stable [Which you can write it as a stable Government, but knowing the country you are RPing...I'd say a lot of hidden Genocides and the such would be in order to keep people in-check. Something very Saddam like, also Central American countries really hate having wars that are between two nations...I'd expect a LOT of flak, even if it is from NPC nations.] and you actually have someone big and strong to back you, secretly and/or in-the spotlight. [IE - Talk with Honako, set up some crap, have US Navy Seals or Rangers or the Air Force par-take a little bit to help you topple whoever it was you're invading again. You only need that much, and to Mr. H...you can keep it totally secret as well. Think Panama, just without the stupid "OH YEA THAT WAS US!!" afterwards.]

Well...there's my two-cents I guess.

Oh and mate I am buying Nuc reactors off someone so I don't need much economic power if there builden them for me. :D

how much and what type

This guy is gonna need to put more effort into his posts.

bye guys - im going on vacation until monday!!!!

If neccessary, someone can fill in for me (preferrably Honako, AB, Candistan, or Granate.) Just don't make me lose!

bye guys - im going on vacation until monday!!!!

If neccessary, someone can fill in for me (preferrably Honako, AB, Candistan, or Granate.) Just don't make me lose!

I'll update you when you get back. Have fun where you're goin!

Well, for starters, the Kitty Hawk is the ONLY ship of her class. The only other ship that comes close to it's Design/Class/Etc would be the USS Constellation. That ship is Decom''d, and nations [including the UK] have offered to buy such ship but have all been turned down. Carriers are EXTREMELY difficult to build and maintain, which is why most nations outside the US/UK/Russia[This RP - USSR]/China don't even have a single damned carrier ship.

Also, why the hell does Nicaragua need a Carrier? For fucks' sake, a Carrier is meant to deal with far away threats...not threats that are less than a US-State away! Anyways, apart from that -

It is not completely unrealistic for Nicaragua to build a Carrier Ship, but one like the Kitty Hawk or anything past the late 40s is just...it's never going to happen.

Also, the GDP jump is a total Godmod whether you believe it or not Nic'. Anyways, I'd say just go back to your original GDP and sit there and actually come up with a way to make it climb. In the mean-time, I'd avoid any war unless you know your Government is completely Stable [Which you can write it as a stable Government, but knowing the country you are RPing...I'd say a lot of hidden Genocides and the such would be in order to keep people in-check. Something very Saddam like, also Central American countries really hate having wars that are between two nations...I'd expect a LOT of flak, even if it is from NPC nations.] and you actually have someone big and strong to back you, secretly and/or in-the spotlight. [IE - Talk with Honako, set up some crap, have US Navy Seals or Rangers or the Air Force par-take a little bit to help you topple whoever it was you're invading again. You only need that much, and to Mr. H...you can keep it totally secret as well. Think Panama, just without the stupid "OH YEA THAT WAS US!!" afterwards.]

Well...there's my two-cents I guess.

Japanese investment could certainly turn up Nicaragua...look how much Japanese immigrants did to South America's rise (especially Argentina) :D

[/Selfish Promotion]

Either way, Japan's government actually would likely assist in such a manuever against Honduras, possibly (by tomorrow, since tomorrow Article 9 gets overturned), but would have to keep a bit of a secret...but of course, Japanese efficiency is proved everyday by watching a road (see all those Hondas and Toyotas...)

Oh and mate I am buying Nuc reactors off someone so I don't need much economic power if there builden them for me. :D

Your buying nuclear reactors off the UK - they are one of America's closest allies, and trust me, we will be watching you. And, these are only for nuclear power - and the UK government no doubt will be keeping checks that is all they are used for. Again, if you want to have a chance of creating nuclear weapons, I suggest you try and make peace with the US. I don't want to crush your dreams about being a nuclear weapon fulled country - but when your classed by the US and probably the USSR (you insulted them really too) as dangerous, it's unlikely they are going to want you to have these weapons.

Anyway, all I have sold Terre is 295,000 guns - no planes, ships anything as of yet. So anything American on that list, if they is anything, can be crossed off. And Terre, I have MSN sure - however I'd prefer if you said whatever you want to say via TG's.

ATTENTION FRANCE! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12710816&postcount=44)

Oh, AB - will I ever get to be on an alliance that is friendly with you. We hope your raising of tariffs does not apply to all nations in NATO. Also, you never really expressed any interest when I talked about an anti-aggression pact and economic agreements in my post in your factbook...be kind Japan. You and India are the US targets to be friends of NATO so to speak, whilst still neutral - how can we recover relations. :p

Sorry to be rude Honako, but I sent you a TG regarding some purchases...

Oh, AB - will I ever get to be on an alliance that is friendly with you.

Never, as long as I'm the USSR. :p

Sorry to be rude Honako, but I sent you a TG regarding some purchases...

I looked at it - and there is high demand, so that will hold. My government will be one that does business rarely, however I am thinking I'll sell you though F-111's or whatever there called - how many do you want again.

Where exactly is this People's Democratic Liberation Army based out of? And how the hell is an organized army supposed to travel around the world wreaking havoc on capitalists? An Islamic state-sponsored terror group (Like what I plan to start in the coming months or so) would be much more believable than an army since it is more discreet and low-key. I also agree with Granate that we need more effort than "We want AShM's, how much." in a post.

BTW, has anyone ever heard of the Toyota War? Something like that might happen soon...

We would like 25 F-111's, that's the amount we wanted to purchase.

Never, as long as I'm the USSR. :p

The US respect Japan being neutral and all, however if it plans to buy equipment from the USSR and help Saudi Arabi it is sort of trying to get them annoyed - all starting with the anti-aggression pact with the USSR. Japan is playing a sneaky game, and it's hard to know what side he leans towards. :p

Cali: An offer from Japan to South Korea in the Sales thread.

Honako: The increased tariff only applies to Britain (urgh! Japanese investors ANGRY). That was part of my motivation to go to Saudi Arabia and make my little devious oil deal.

About the economic and non-aggression pacts-I think I missed those. lemme go check my factbook, and I'll post a response there in a sec to 'em. I'm all for economic pacts that can help me out (but in Japan, Japan is number 1 :D)

I'm just trying to make myself into the world's only neutral major power (in all categories-not just economic and social. Got two more to go-political and militarily).

AB: I responded far before your post above, you're slow :P

Is Japan's economy what it is in real life?

Honako: Ah-hah! I found your post. I'll respond shortly. I'm all for signing non-aggression deals with the world's two guys who could eat me.

About buying ships or aircraft-I may actually put it to auction-to see who "wants" Japanese investment (which is the precursor to oh so much more...)

AB: I responded far before your post above, you're slow :P

Dang! This is what happens when you try to type three posts at once :P

Is Japan's economy what it is in real life?

Yup, it is. The only thing I "fixed" was the birth rate and death rate (I don't want a declining population-all I need to do is have a government-sponsored fertility campaign).

OOC: Trying to be omnipontent eh AB? ;-D

About buying ships or aircraft-I may actually put it to auction-to see who "wants" Japanese investment (which is the precursor to oh so much more...)

OHHH PICK BRAZIL PICK BRAZIL. I HERE GOOD THINGS FROM BRAZIL!

Anyway, Hanoko, I think you need to check the Market Thread.

OOC: Trying to be omnipontent eh AB? ;-D

Pretty much, yah :P

Being America and big-nasty aliens in ESS intoxicated me to power. Now I want more of it :D

*shake's head* That's what happens when you get into RP that much..... *Cali run's under a table with a cocked Tokarev, playing Russian Roulette*

About buying ships or aircraft-I may actually put it to auction-to see who "wants" Japanese investment (which is the precursor to oh so much more...)

Pssst...pick Libya, too. We have oil, chemicals, and best of all, soldiers of fortune! Not to mention one of the highest, if not the highest GDP's in Africa.

Yeah, if your a neutral country who wishes to buy weapons fill out a simple form and we will consider you (and reply between two days and twentyfive years after you contacted us). Very boring I know (well not for me as I get to find out your stance on me) but it's nessecary really if your neutral and want to buy. And it's basically a way of me having an excuse so people don't bug me about buying stuff. Also, if you are trying to buy American retired equipment you will likely be accepted - if you want the good stuff, it is far less likely.

What is this Japanese investment?

Yeah, if your a neutral country who wishes to buy weapons fill out a simple form and we will consider you (and reply between two days and twentyfive years after you contacted us). Very boring I know (well not for me as I get to find out your stance on me) but it's nessecary really if your neutral and want to buy. And it's basically a way of me having an excuse so people don't bug me about buying stuff. Also, if you are trying to buy American retired equipment you will likely be accepted - if you want the good stuff, it is far less likely.

What is this Japanese investment?

Oh, some highly favorable trade freeness (is that a word?) between nations, access to the high-end Japanese tech that Sony always seems to uncover that usually never leaves Japanese borders due to the government's nutty restrictions on tech leaving the border (IRL, it's horrible)...and possibly a joint program into further research into space ability, since Japan's space agency would be more than willing to shoulder a lot of the load. Imagine the possibilities in telecommunications, battlefield imaging, tactical ability, etc., etc...

Overall, an awfully good deal, and through it, plenty more looks for resource buying.

Obviously, that wouldn't all come off the first bat, but if things were looking up with the initial boosters, it could certainly come up that way.


Another change to the diplomacy-o-meter of Japan: I'm sticking all my blues back down to Green, so I can save Blue level for my "favorable" nations.

Pssst...pick Libya, too. We have oil, chemicals, and best of all, soldiers of fortune! Not to mention one of the highest, if not the highest GDP's in Africa.

Honestly, if I decide to go covert and assist Nicaragua in its (assuredly upcoming) Honduras ops, i'd probaly go and get some of your dudes rather than risk the necks of my own boys for Jungle warfare in a nation that I'm simply looking to get on my side ('cause hey, Terre certainly shows Nicaraguan ambition).

Honestly, if I decide to go covert and assist Nicaragua in its (assuredly upcoming) Honduras ops, i'd probaly go and get some of your dudes rather than risk the necks of my own boys for Jungle warfare in a nation that I'm simply looking to get on my side ('cause hey, Terre certainly shows Nicaraguan ambition).

The USA is doing the utter opposite of you - no covert help, just sticking a few crusiers and an aircraft carrier in the gulf of mexico and saying "come near us and we'll kill you!"...basically.

Honestly, if I decide to go covert and assist Nicaragua in its (assuredly upcoming) Honduras ops, i'd probaly go and get some of your dudes rather than risk the necks of my own boys for Jungle warfare in a nation that I'm simply looking to get on my side ('cause hey, Terre certainly shows Nicaraguan ambition).

A fine choice :). With what I have planned for a litlle later, Libya will (hopefully) be in control of or have a client state to its south with plenty of resources to trade with Japan for investment. (Think of it like the Second Toyota War, except this time Libya wins.)

i have a question , how long does it take for a new thread to get on the forum?

i wrote a new thread on my fact book a lill while ago but it hasent gotten up yet

The USA is doing the utter opposite of you - no covert help, just sticking a few crusiers and an aircraft carrier in the gulf of mexico and saying "come near us and we'll kill you!"...basically.

Japan needs to maintain it's "honorable" impression to the world-it can be as underhanded as it likes as long as it stays a secret :D

I TG'ed you AB on some matters concerning our nations.

Sorry but I have really fucked up my nation! :(
If I said anything about a nuclear weapons program forget it.



EVERY ONE CLEAN SLATE?

TG'ed in return.

Brazil will just chill for a while. Which is code for me saying I am gonna go play a video game be back later.

Another change to the diplomacy-o-meter of Japan: I'm sticking all my blues back down to Green, so I can save Blue level for my "favorable" nations.

I'm so-so hurt, I-I thought we-we were-were f-favorable. :(

What does the USSR have to do to get some love!?

AB, sent ya a TG response to your orginal TG.

I'm so-so hurt, I-I thought we-we were-were f-favorable. :(

What does the USSR have to do to get some love!?

Whoa-that extraordinary price on the bomber was a positive step.

Basically, you have to keep up relations for a few months at this kind of good level (Con Blue after 2 weeks is a little premature-if USSR-Japanese relations can stay this way for like, 4 months, that'll put it up there).

Basically, you have to keep up relations for a few months at this kind of good level (Con Blue after 2 weeks is a little premature-if USSR-Japanese relations can stay this way for like, 4 months, that'll put it up there).

Yeah, I know, I was just being emo. :p

I find it rather iritating how everyone out of the blue is saying

"I am starting a nuclear program, which I have pulled out of from under the rug. Expect me to have a nuke in a year ready to blow in your face! Yes, where did I get the material from you ask? I got it from Imagination!

And Libya is proud not to be one of the newly announced nuclear nations! We are content with Chemicals...

Screw nukes. Bio weapons are far more destructive.

As are...tech projects.

Waldenburg 2 and H-Town Tejas, interest TGs your way.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528385 ALL NATO NATIONS LOOK!

I find it rather iritating how everyone out of the blue is saying

"I am starting a nuclear program, which I have pulled out of from under the rug. Expect me to have a nuke in a year ready to blow in your face! Yes, where did I get the material from you ask? I got it from Imagination!

Same. I mean, Yugoslavia suddenly saying it seemed a bit, erm, strange.

Screw nukes. Bio weapons are far more destructive.

As are...tech projects.

Waldenburg 2 and H-Town Tejas, interest TGs your way.

TGed in return

AB, sent a reply TG to your last one with a suggestion.

Turkey.

I will through up a fact-book later. What equipment am I allowed to use?

Turkey.

I will through up a fact-book later. What equipment am I allowed to use?

NATO, Warsaw, or neutral? As for equipment, I think it's basically want you have now, with a few changes allowed maybe. I'm not sure.

I find it rather iritating how everyone out of the blue is saying

"I am starting a nuclear program, which I have pulled out of from under the rug. Expect me to have a nuke in a year ready to blow in your face! Yes, where did I get the material from you ask? I got it from Imagination!

I'm sorry if I irritated you, it was not my intention. However, to speak the simple truth, had Yugoslavia wanted to have a nuclear weapon it would have built one IRL. However, nukes are costly and they saw no real purpose for having one, for should NATO have attacked them SU would have had enough nukes for them, and vice versa, really.
In this gameworld, this nation held together. In this world, their economy is stronger and, in this world, I decide what this nation has done with its money for the last few decades. It has built nuclear reactors, a couple of submarines and now - atomic bombs. The material? Built. It's not that hard for a decent-sized modern European country. Uranium is easy to buy.

So, besides it being irritating to you, can you find any real arguments for the claim Yugoslavia could not have nuclear weapons?

Turkey.

I will through up a fact-book later. What equipment am I allowed to use?

What present-day Turkey has, maybe some changes. I'm assuming NATO?

I'm sorry if I irritated you, it was not my intention. However, to speak the simple truth, had Yugoslavia wanted to have a nuclear weapon it would have built one IRL. However, nukes are costly and they saw no real purpose for having one, for should NATO have attacked them SU would have had enough nukes for them, and vice versa, really.
In this gameworld, this nation held together. In this world, their economy is stronger and, in this world, I decide what this nation has done with its money for the last few decades. It has built nuclear reactors, a couple of submarines and now - atomic bombs. The material? Built. It's not that hard for a decent-sized modern European country. Uranium is easy to buy.

So, besides it being irritating to you, can you find any real arguments for the claim Yugoslavia could not have nuclear weapons? Oh, yes about that. Where did you get your GDP from?

AB, sent a reply TG to your last one with a suggestion.

Included it in my "Address to the Nations of the Global Community" in the Sales thread.

What present-day Turkey has, maybe some changes. I'm assuming NATO?

Lucky Yugoslavia-RL Turkey is the second-strongest NATO nation behind the USA.

Oh, yes about that. Where did you get your GDP from?

Checked CIA world facbook for GDP's of Croatia, Slovenia and Serbia, thought what it could have been by now without the 1.Collapse of the Federation, 2.Civil war, 3.Kosovo incident and with 4. a bit smarter economical system. This is what I came up with.

Lucky Yugoslavia-RL Turkey is the second-strongest NATO nation behind the USA.

You say that UK, France and Germany are weaker than Turkey?

Checked CIA world facbook for GDP's of Croatia, Slovenia and Serbia, thought what it could have been by now without the 1.Collapse of the Federation, 2.Civil war, 3.Kosovo incident and with 4. a bit smarter economical system. This is what I came up with.

What is your economy?

You say that UK, France and Germany are weaker than Turkey?

In terms of military - yes. Turkey have one of the largest in the world, and the second largest in NATO.

What is your economy?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528365

In terms of military - yes. Turkey have one of the largest in the world, and the second largest in NATO.

Technologically Advanced as well. What with Leopard 2s and F-16s.

In terms of military - yes. Turkey have one of the largest in the world, and the second largest in NATO.

I'm aware. However, "number of armed personel in service" and "strength of a nation" are two quite different thingies, IMHO :) Thanks for the clarification.

I've been eying this thread for some time...it seems rather active, with a lot of people joining in.

The map could be outdated, and I didn't bother checking the last few pages...

Chile

The Republic of Chile

I've been eying this thread for some time...it seems rather active, with a lot of people joining in.

The map could be outdated, and I didn't bother checking the last few pages...

Chile

The Republic of Chile

What side?

Is there any reason why I couldn't export the eurofighter?

What side?

Neutral for now.

Just like the rest of South America... You guys should make SATO!

Neutral for now.

Just like the rest of South America...

Armorfx, got my TG?

I'm aware. However, "number of armed personel in service" and "strength of a nation" are two quite different thingies, IMHO :) Thanks for the clarification.

I'd still say, militarily, that Turkey is stronger than any of 'em.

Now, if you're referring to strength as socio-political...then no.

Amorfx: Go ahead, I believe. In fact, I made a post on Sales and Market about needing a fighter...

I believe that the Eurofighter is the best stop-gap fighter until the Asian Fighter Project (AFP) comes to fruitition.

I believe that the Eurofighter is the best stop-gap fighter until the Asian Fighter Project (AFP) comes to fruitition.

I dunno, the Dassault Rafeal looks, really, really, really good. Too bad it's from a Communist Country.

You guys should make SATO!

You know, Asia has SEATO...

I dunno, the Dassault Rafeal looks, really, really, really good. Too bad it's from a Communist Country.

That's the problem, so the Eurofighter EF-2000 is really the best choice then for me.

You know, Asia has SEATO...

Did.

Well then, the Eurofighter will be for sale to NATO nations once I do some research on it.

I'm sorry if I irritated you, it was not my intention. However, to speak the simple truth, had Yugoslavia wanted to have a nuclear weapon it would have built one IRL. However, nukes are costly and they saw no real purpose for having one, for should NATO have attacked them SU would have had enough nukes for them, and vice versa, really.
In this gameworld, this nation held together. In this world, their economy is stronger and, in this world, I decide what this nation has done with its money for the last few decades. It has built nuclear reactors, a couple of submarines and now - atomic bombs. The material? Built. It's not that hard for a decent-sized modern European country. Uranium is easy to buy.

So, besides it being irritating to you, can you find any real arguments for the claim Yugoslavia could not have nuclear weapons?
Who said I was talking about Yugoslavia? To my knowledge, the former state Yugoslavia was quite the nuclear capable state as it has quite a history with the weapon itself.

Let me rephrase.

I sort of find it irratating how random nations from out of the blue start nuclear programs which can produce a nuclear weapons within the year without announcing a purchase of the nuclear missiles themselves, or the stuff to make the bomb.

I still don't see why NATO and the Warsaw Pact aren't fighting over Brazil considering that where Brazil goes, most of South America goes as well. In real life Argentina might of resisted but in this timeline, Argentine and Brazil are closer.

Actually a South American version of NATO doesn't sound that bad. How about the South American countries set aside their difference and make a more friendly South America? How does that sound to the two other South American players (Brazil & Chile)?

Actually a South American version of NATO doesn't sound that bad. How about the South American countries set aside their difference and make a more friendly South America? How does that sound to the two other South American players (Brazil & Chile)?

I'm down.

Oh, some highly favorable trade freeness (is that a word?) between nations, access to the high-end Japanese tech that Sony always seems to uncover that usually never leaves Japanese borders due to the government's nutty restrictions on tech leaving the border (IRL, it's horrible)...and possibly a joint program into further research into space ability, since Japan's space agency would be more than willing to shoulder a lot of the load. Imagine the possibilities in telecommunications, battlefield imaging, tactical ability, etc., etc...

Overall, an awfully good deal, and through it, plenty more looks for resource buying.

Obviously, that wouldn't all come off the first bat, but if things were looking up with the initial boosters, it could certainly come up that way.


Another change to the diplomacy-o-meter of Japan: I'm sticking all my blues back down to Green, so I can save Blue level for my "favorable" nations.
Ahem, i think Mexico wants some "investment". Come on AB! You know you want to help out Mexico!
Actually a South American version of NATO doesn't sound that bad. How about the South American countries set aside their difference and make a more friendly South America? How does that sound to the two other South American players (Brazil & Chile)?

Hey, can we make that all of Latin America? That would be good...

Well then, the Eurofighter will be for sale to NATO nations once I do some research on it.

Dang. There goes another suitor, I guess (you're in luck, Corbournne, especially with Honako hesitating on sales. He's not outta the game yet, though, that offer will stand until tomorrow for nations to come in [particularly Sith, if he gets the Clemenceau open. I may have to TG him on that]).

South America: There's a lot of ethnically-originating Japanese in South America...making me more inclined towards ya'll.

I may have plans for you people in good deals...(plus, cause you people aren't all NATO or Warsaw).

South America: There's a lot of ethnically-originating Japanese in South America...making me more inclined towards ya'll.

I may have plans for you people in good deals...(plus, cause you people aren't all NATO or Warsaw).

Awesome.

AB,

I just decided since the Eurofighter isn't goign to be readily purchased, I'm buying IAI Lavi fighter's, since that fit's the bill pretty well.

OOC: Yay, 1,000th post.

Hey, can we make that all of Latin America? That would be good...

First of all I don't trust some of the Latin American countries. Second the Latin American countries are split between Warsaw and NATO forces. Third so far all the player fulled positions for S. America have been neutral.

First of all I don't trust some of the Latin American countries. Second the Latin American countries are split between Warsaw and NATO forces. Third so far all the player fulled positions for S. America have been neutral.

I know, wich is why there needs some representation from both sides. Me from Warsaw and the outspoken Right-wing Nato member....

I've been following this and am quite interested in joining it.

Would it be alright if I claimed Egypt?

First of all I don't trust some of the Latin American countries. Second the Latin American countries are split between Warsaw and NATO forces. Third so far all the player fulled positions for S. America have been neutral.

Yes I agree. If Latin America were to join it would upset the balance.

I've been following this and am quite interested in joining it.

Would it be alright if I claimed Egypt?

Only if your a warsaw nation

I've been following this and am quite interested in joining it.

Would it be alright if I claimed Egypt?

Finally! Maybe there will be another Egyptian/Libyan War after all. BTW, wait for H-Town to confirm you...or AB I think.

I'm gonna stay neutral for now

I'll try and get my factbook up later today.

I've been following this and am quite interested in joining it.

Would it be alright if I claimed Egypt?

Wait until H-Town approved you, but he probably will. Then you'll need to pick a side. NATO, Warsaw Pact, or Neutral.

Also, don't listen to some people. You'll figure out who we mean very shortly.

Wait until H-Town approved you, but he probably will. Then you'll need to pick a side. NATO, Warsaw Pact, or Neutral.

Also, don't listen to some people. You'll figure out who we mean very shortly.

What the hell is that supposed to mean!

Wait until H-Town approved you, but he probably will. Then you'll need to pick a side. NATO, Warsaw Pact, or Neutral.

Also, don't listen to some people. You'll figure out who we mean very shortly.

Lol...that doesn't include me, right?

Fair enough.

I'll try and get my factbook up later today.

Dude, you don't have to be a Warsaw Pact nation. You can NATO or Neutral if you feal like it.

Right, my bad. Previous post edited.

What the hell is that supposed to mean!

Don't for people to join the Warsaw Pact. It may seem funny to you, but Sarcasm doesn't travel across the internet very well. Oh and your grammar is not good. I know I am Grammar Nazi, whatever.

Don't for people to join the Warsaw Pact. It may seem funny to you, but Sarcasm doesn't travel across the internet very well. Oh and your grammar is not good. I know I am Grammar Nazi, whatever.

Lol, so my lack of perfect grammer= not listing to me? And, hey Warsaw could use another nation...And for a guy stressing Perfect English, look at that sentance i quoted...

AB,

I just decided since the Eurofighter isn't goign to be readily purchased, I'm buying IAI Lavi fighter's, since that fit's the bill pretty well.

OOC: Yay, 1,000th post.

Problem is, the IAI Lavi is actually a downgrade from the Mitsubishi F-2 (practically the same fighter, both derived from the Falcon, but the F-2's actually better in electronics. It's also only for sale through asking, which is why I don't have it up-besides the fact that nobody's ever heard of it).

Problem is, the IAI Lavi is actually a downgrade from the Mitsubishi F-2 (practically the same fighter, both derived from the Falcon, but the F-2's actually better in electronics. It's also only for sale through asking, which is why I don't have it up-besides the fact that nobody's ever heard of it).

ahem...AB you know you want to invest in me! You have a TG coming...soon

Lol, so my lack of perfect grammer= not listing to me? And, hey Warsaw could use another nation...

So could NATO, but do you see any of them going "You can join only if you are apart of NATO."?

Also, I hate horrible grammar. Candistan's was horrible when he started but it's improved, thus I don't dislike him anymore.

So could NATO, but do you see any of them going "You can join only if you are apart of NATO."?

Also, I hate horrible grammar. Candistan's was horrible when he started but it's improved, thus I don't dislike him anymore.

You saying you dislike me? :mad: Whatever dude :D

Dang. There goes another suitor, I guess (you're in luck, Corbournne, especially with Honako hesitating on sales. He's not outta the game yet, though, that offer will stand until tomorrow for nations to come in [particularly Sith, if he gets the Clemenceau open. I may have to TG him on that]). Hmm? Out of what?

Lol, so my lack of perfect grammer= not listing to me? And, hey Warsaw could use another nation...And for a guy stressing Perfect English, look at that sentance i quoted...

Not to also be a grammar Nazi, but I am positive Einstein worded it much better than that utilizing fine tools such as the comma in that sentence.

You saying you dislike me? :mad: Whatever dude :D

In layman's terms, yes. I quite dislike you, but I don't hate you. Hate is a whole nother level of me busting your chops.

So could NATO, but do you see any of them going "You can join only if you are apart of NATO."?

Also, I hate horrible grammar. Candistan's was horrible when he started but it's improved, thus I don't dislike him anymore.

Horay, me.

Hmm? Out of what?

Outta the game for AB's new Air Superiority Fighter. Since you declared the Eurofighter Typhoon is NATO only AB can't buy it. Japan is inching closer and closer to purchasing the planes from the USSR now.

In layman's terms, yes. I quite dislike you, but I don't hate you. Hate is a whole nother level of me busting your chops.

Like i said, Whatever...(Oh look at that! I put a comma in there. What do you know?)


AB your Tg'd

AB, I just canceled the Lavi order anyway :D

AB, we still on for annoucning our fighter project tomorrow?

NC tg'd

In layman's terms, yes. I quite dislike you, but I don't hate you. Hate is a whole nother level of me busting your chops.

To lighten up everyones day, think of it as -

Your Granate's little brother who he treasures, but wouldn't want around most of the time. :D

Yes. I am perfect. Meaning I am awesome.

Anyhow...

Everyone buy things from me! Oil, nuclear reators, anything!

Outta the game for AB's new Air Superiority Fighter. Since you declared the Eurofighter Typhoon is NATO only AB can't buy it. Japan is inching closer and closer to purchasing the planes from the USSR now.

Nailed it on the head. So far, all I've got for an advanced plane (AH, where are you Sith with that Rafael) is the Su-35. A nice option, but I like choices.

Cali: Yup, tomorrow is the official announcement. H-Town and Waldenburg have confirmed.

Outta the game for AB's new Air Superiority Fighter. Since you declared the Eurofighter Typhoon is NATO only AB can't buy it. Japan is inching closer and closer to purchasing the planes from the USSR now.

To lighten up everyones day, think of it as -

Your Granate's little brother who he treasures, but wouldn't want around most of the time. :D

Yes. I am perfect. Meaning I am awesome.

Anyhow...

Everyone buy things from me! Oil, nuclear reators, anything!

Nuclear Reactors-I like that. Especially if I have long-term plans for an indigenous carrier and nuclear sub line. I'll be seeing your economics crew sometime soon.

AB, Yeah, KAI will be in on it too, what will you do if the USSR somehow attack's you, then the project would be your only choice.KAI is ready for the announcement tomorrow.

AB: Be honest with me. Are you even considering Brazil's Corvette for Japan?

According to this (http://www.eads.com/1024/en/pressdb/archiv/2000/en_20000831_eurofighter.html) I can only produce 15 Eurofighters a year. I believe that it could be stepped up somewhat because of the Cold War but still, maximum would be about 20-25 a year? Hmm... I guess the program would have been speed up too and I can assume I already have my Eurofighers.

Also, I'll consider selling it to Japan.

AB: Be honest with me. Are you even considering Brazil's Corvette for Japan?

I'm considering everybody's products, especially as I don't even have a corvette offered to me yet (gotta couple frigates...). Besides, what doesn't come with the package, Japan always does itself (but truth to be told, I'd like a corvette/patrol craft, and since noone's offered, you may be it...)

NATO nations, please again vote on the resolutions thread. And remember, all the really good stuff stays in the family - and don't sell nuclear stuff to Saudi Arabia.

Also, I was looking at the price for those Tomcats Granate...I swear, for just 24 (and with you paying near full price) I came out with $84 billion...does that sound way off to you?

AB, Yeah, KAI will be in on it too, what will you do if the USSR somehow attack's you, then the project would be your only choice.KAI is ready for the announcement tomorrow.

If someone's crazy enough to attack me, I can strike right back. Not to mention there goes a big portion of their economy down the drain (especially if the USSR did it...that'd be pretty much insane. After they just sold me 18 strategic bombers.)

Besides, I doubt I'll be invaded quite yet. I've done enough to be ICly universally disliked (hooray!), but not detested yet.

AB, I am quite wary of the USSR because, they support my northern neighbor the DPRK, I don't know if this affect's our relationship or not, I don't think it does. I am thinking of selling my D model Phantoms to Iran, would that get me in trouble with anyone?

If someone's crazy enough to attack me, I can strike right back. Not to mention there goes a big portion of their economy down the drain (especially if the USSR did it...that'd be pretty much insane. After they just sold me 18 strategic bombers.)

Besides, I doubt I'll be invaded quite yet. I've done enough to be ICly universally disliked (hooray!), but not detested yet.

Replied, and i posted in the trade thread...

Oh, AB, the USSR can offer you the Pauk class patrol ship/corvette!

And, I'm definitely not attacking Japan, guys. I'll go ahead and say that.

And I just realized how much AB is benefiting off the NATO/Warsaw Pact competition.

Marx, lets be close allies, we are the only outpost of communism in the west lets keep it that way.

Marx, lets be close allies, we are the only outpost of communism in the west lets keep it that way.

Reply to my tg...i have to share plans...oh and USSR expect a TG also...

Oh, AB, the USSR can offer you the Pauk class patrol ship/corvette!

The question is does AB want to purchase all this from the USSR and further Alienate the United States thus hurting their relations. I believe AB will be more sneaky about this. Mixing and matching equipment to fill his needs perfectly.

Don't like the Cold Tundra of Canada?

Had a larf with that. Thats right Grammer Nazi's! Not laugh, but larf.

Anyhow I was thinking about purchasing a carrier and a long term replacement plan for the CF-18's (as those fighters probably have another 10 years in them before actually being considered old). Anyone intrested?

Okay, I have finally made up my mind. I am going to proceed in yet another Libyan attempted annexation of the Borkou-Ennedi-Tibesti Prefecture in Chad for pretty much the same reasons they did in the eighties, "to liberate the Libyan people residing there from Chad's oppresive gov't." Just a heads up for those wishing to support/go against me.

The question is does AB want to purchase all this from the USSR and further Alienate the United States thus hurting their relations. I believe AB will be more sneaky about this. Mixing and matching equipment to fill his needs perfectly.

Oh, I know, just have to offer.

The question is does AB want to purchase all this from the USSR and further Alienate the United States thus hurting their relations. I believe AB will be more sneaky about this. Mixing and matching equipment to fill his needs perfectly.

Nice idea, but I was actually looking the other way towards buying the Brazilian corvettes-I want to strengthen South American relations (none of you are aligned, miraculously), so that would also be in my intentions. Seeing as Brazil is the strongest South American nation...it would make sense.

I'll also keep that in mind, though, for future referance.

Corbournne: Exactly-and that's just how Japan always does it :D

Cali: Doesn't matter how you feel on USSR, or that you're NATO-aligned. It's all East Asian Pac Rim, which is a major Japanese concern. Your nation isn't unstable (cough CHINA), so I'm fine with that. NATO, Warsaw, doesn't matter to me who I work with, so long as Japan profits.

Oh, I know, just have to offer.

I know. It's between your 70's Pauk and my 80's/90's Inhaúma. Which will he choose?

Okay, I have finally made up my mind. I am going to proceed in yet another Libyan attempted annexation of the Borkou-Ennedi-Tibesti Prefecture in Chad for pretty much the same reasons they did in the eighties, "to liberate the Libyan people residing there from Chad's oppresive gov't." Just a heads up for those wishing to support/go against me.

...I'll look into it (support, probaly...)

Is Libya communist?
Oh, AB, the USSR can offer you the Pauk class patrol ship/corvette!

And, I'm definitely not attacking Japan, guys. I'll go ahead and say that.

And I just realized how much AB is benefiting off the NATO/Warsaw Pact competition.

Hehe...NATO is just sitting back really whilst you sell loads to Japan in attempts to make it more pro-Warsaw. The US has done nothing but sign an anti-aggression treaty, and other nations are selling for deals to get more planes themselves aswell as for AB. I don't think Japan would be so foolish as to commit itself to the USSR's storefront fully.

I know. It's between your 70's Pauk and my 80's/90's Inhaúma. Which will he choose?

probaly yours, unless Sweden comes into the mix with those Visby stealth things of doom (though I'm almost certain I'll grab some of yours, since they're probaly better than the Visbys for direct confrontation and rapid response).

I'll address that entire post tomorrow, of course, so I can give time to the fighters/carriers/destroyers & cruisers to pick up steam

I have missed so much in this thread...

Damn you school! Only two more days!!!

Yeah Libya's a communist. USSR and Cuba, you got Tg's!

Is Libya communist?

Well, so far it is non-aligned, but Gaddafi is leaning towards Warsaw a little bit since that is who has historically given Libya its military wares and such.

Yeah Libya's a communist. USSR and Cuba, you got Tg's!

Please don't answer questions pointed at me.

Please don't answer questions pointed at me.

...My bad. I thought you were on Warsaw. It used to say somthing about you being Communist or somthing in your factbook. I'll just shut up now i guess...:(

...My bad. I thought you were on Warsaw. It used to say somthing about you being Communist or somthing in your factbook. I'll just shut up now i guess...:(

No, I understand. I was Warsaw in the beginnning, but Libya wasn't historically Warsaw so I changed it to slightly-Warsaw-leaning Neutral.

Well, so far it is non-aligned, but Gaddafi is leaning towards Warsaw a little bit since that is who has historically given Libya its military wares and such.

Hmm..then I have three options.

Hmm..then I have three options.

Please share them lol. (You don't have to...)

Hehe...NATO is just sitting back really whilst you sell loads to Japan in attempts to make it more pro-Warsaw. The US has done nothing but sign an anti-aggression treaty, and other nations are selling for deals to get more planes themselves aswell as for AB. I don't think Japan would be so foolish as to commit itself to the USSR's storefront fully.

Are you gonna ok that Purcahse Honako? If not, heh, I will have to go to the Russians.

What present-day Turkey has, maybe some changes. I'm assuming NATO?

NATO is alright.

Sorry, but what side is Turkey on?

I just posted what side Turkey was on. Look on the post above your own. I'll have a fact-book up in a few minutes. I have a feeling that I'm not going to be the most popular NATO member, but oh well.

I just posted what side Turkey was on. Look on the post above your own. I'll have a fact-book up in a few minutes. I have a feeling that I'm not going to be the most popular NATO member, but oh well.

Didn't see that, Is anyone playing North Korea? Don;t think i saw it on the front page...

Sorry, but what side is Turkey on?

NATO from what I've gathered.

Are you gonna ok that Purcahse Honako? If not, heh, I will have to go to the Russians.

I was, but again I hesistated...god you put me under so much pressure! :p Your neutral and I still have no idea what side you even lean towards - if I sell these to you in a couple of months (days NS time) I could find myself fighting them. And anyway, I'll likely only sell the Tomcats.

I was, but again I hesistated...god you put me under so much pressure! :p Your neutral and I still have no idea what side you even lean towards - if I sell these to you in a couple of these I could find myself fighting them. And anyway, I'll likely only sell the Tomcats.

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Su-35s and the lot it is.

Is Libya communist?


Hehe...NATO is just sitting back really whilst you sell loads to Japan in attempts to make it more pro-Warsaw. The US has done nothing but sign an anti-aggression treaty, and other nations are selling for deals to get more planes themselves aswell as for AB. I don't think Japan would be so foolish as to commit itself to the USSR's storefront fully.

Heck yeah, I am doing fine over here. Of course, that means that the Warsaw Pact is open to getting Japanese stuff (and not restricted, unlike Britain over..."there"...). But that deal for the Bombers was seriously...awesome...

NATO from what I've gathered.



I was, but again I hesistated...god you put me under so much pressure! :p Your neutral and I still have no idea what side you even lean towards - if I sell these to you in a couple of months (days NS time) I could find myself fighting them. And anyway, I'll likely only sell the Tomcats.

Of course...if Granate turns down the Tomcats...I might buy them.

They'll go great if I could ever get a carrier (which is probaly why I'd wait to buy them).

alright, I have many pages to read. I just want to say, that Terre asked me to RP Honduras, and I have no stance on what's went down. I read the first post considering NPCs, and figured it would be ok. If I did anything wrong, please tell me.

alright, I have many pages to read. I just want to say, that Terre asked me to RP Honduras, and I have no stance on what's went down. I read the first post considering NPCs, and figured it would be ok. If I did anything wrong, please tell me.

Hmmm, Mexico and Cuba might have to step in if this starts to look bad...What is Terre's government using to Justify this attack?

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Su-35s and the lot it is.

Sounds like a plan.

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Su-35s and the lot it is.

Are you saying you don't want the Tomcats? America, for the meantime only sell retired planes. If you don't, I'll suppose you can buy from Russia if you want - I mean, according to Wiki they don't even have 24 Su-35 - so if you take what they do have off there hands for me it will be useful. :p

And yeah AB, I was planning to sell them off anyway - you might as well have them if Granate doesn't want them.

Hmmm, Mexico and Cuba might have to step in if this starts to look bad...

Who's side? And also, I think that RP should progress. I don't think terre has that great of a reason, border disputes or something.

Are you saying you don't want the Tomcats? America, for the meantime only sell retired planes. If you don't, I'll suppose you can buy from Russia if you want - I mean, according to Wiki they don't even have 24 Su-35 - so if you take what they do have off there hands for me it will be useful. :p

And yeah AB, I was planning to sell them off anyway - you might as well have them if Granate doesn't want them.



Who's side? And also, I think that RP should progress. I don't think terre has that great of a reason, border disputes or something.

Against Terre. We just don't want it to expload into somthing else later though. If we can keep it low key(and ensure preperations are made) then yeah we will step in.

Against Terre. We just don't want it to expload into somthing else later though. If we can keep it low key(and ensure preperations are made) then yeah we will step in.

Hmm, I might fund you in that endeavor (to promote BoP in Central America).

Are you saying you don't want the Tomcats? America, for the meantime only sell retired planes. If you don't, I'll suppose you can buy from Russia if you want - I mean, according to Wiki they don't even have 24 Su-35 - so if you take what they do have off there hands for me it will be useful. :p

They have more. Things have sped up considerably, considering you are putting the Zumwalt into service already when in reality it won't come into service for another two or three years.

Also, I said All or Nothing back in the market thread. You can't pick and choose, I need a standardized Air-Force so repairs are reduced, so having planes from two different nations kinda messes with that,

Hmm, I might fund you in that endeavor (to promote BoP in Central America).

Sounds good to me :D

Hmm, I might fund you in that endeavor (to promote BoP in Central America).

AB, can't we just be friends. :( Japanese-American relations will fall unless you make that secret, so in the interests of both of us, I'm actaully asking you not too or to at least be very quiet about it.

Well, I just got MSN if anyone wants it tg me.

TG me for my AIM or MSN if I am needed.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12712254#post12712254

Here is the Second Toyota War thread, please don't pollute it with crap, the invasion hasn't started yet. For those who don't know what this is for, it is Libyas second attempt at controlling Chad's most northern prefecture.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12712254#post12712254

Here is the Second Toyota War thread, please don't pollute it with crap, the invasion hasn't started yet. For those who don't know what this is for, it is Libyas second attempt at controlling Chad's most northern prefecture.


Are you expecting intrenational support? And your saying that Chad isn't a legit. nation right?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12712254#post12712254

Here is the Second Toyota War thread, please don't pollute it with crap, the invasion hasn't started yet. For those who don't know what this is for, it is Libyas second attempt at controlling Chad's most northern prefecture.

Toyota war, at first I thought my cars were under attack :P

Honako: I'm always quiet about those things :P. I can keep that one as quiet as I need...Japanese intel and secrecy is pretty good right now.

I can stay out of it, it's just that it's not in Japan's interests to see a nation that seems to have no interest in Japanese goods come to dominate Central America...

of course, unless Honduras repulsed him. Or, I could sell some stuff to Marx before he went in. That would be more justified-after all, it's just profit, I could claim negligence with that.

I can stay out of it, it's just that it's not in Japan's interests to see a nation that seems to have no interest in Japanese goods come to dominate Central America...
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There is no way he's going to dominate Central America if i have anything to say about it! :D

I sort of find it irratating how random nations from out of the blue start nuclear programs which can produce a nuclear weapons within the year without announcing a purchase of the nuclear missiles themselves, or the stuff to make the bomb.

I love having a preexisting nuclear program/stockpile in the real timeline. Heh. (We have around fifteen atom bombs, and yes, that is part of the reason I picked south Africa) Also, darn you Libya! Now I have to declare support for someone, grr. I need to look up things on Chad, after I read the IC thread.

There is no way he's going to dominate Central America if i have anything to say about it! :D

Good...at least you are willing to buy my stuff :D

Are you expecting intrenational support? And your saying that Chad isn't a legit. nation right?

No, it's that Libya claims the Northernmost prefecture of Chad belongs to them, but the UN dosn't recognize this. And yes, I expect support when the invasion comes.

:DGood...at least you are willing to buy my stuff :D

Of course :D...

I love having a preexisting nuclear program/stockpile in the real timeline. Heh. (We have around fifteen atom bombs, and yes, that is part of the reason I picked south Africa) Also, darn you Libya! Now I have to declare support for someone, grr. I need to look up things on Chad, after I read the IC thread.

I am fairly certain South Africa dismantled their nuclear weapons program, unless of course you changed that in your history.

No, it's that Libya claims the Northernmost prefecture of Chad belongs to them, but the UN dosn't recognize this. And yes, I expect support when the invasion comes.

Ahh, though we won;t be able to send any support, when the invasion comes you can expect our Moral Support :cool:

I am fairly certain South Africa dismantled their nuclear weapons program, unless of course you changed that in your history.

I did. IRL they really didn't have much of a reason to keep them. In this timeline however... Also, AB, Japan is pissed at Britain, South Africa hates Britain... hmmmmmm.

Ahh, though we won;t be able to send any support, when the invasion comes you can expect our Moral Support :cool:

Yay!

I did. IRL they really didn't have much of a reason to keep them. In this timeline however... Also, AB, Japan is pissed at Britain, South Africa hates Britain... hmmmmmm.

Without a doubt in my mind Japan is the Kool Kid of this earth. Every one wants to hang out at his house(embassy exchange) play with his toys(buying Japans products), There even giving him stuff(Soviet Union's great deals they gave them)! Everyone wants Japan to go to their birthday party too("invest" in their country)! Man they have the world around there finger!

Without a doubt in my mind Japan is the Kool Kid of this earth. Every one wants to hang out at his house(embassy exchange) play with his toys(buying Japans products), There even giving him stuff(Soviet Union's great deals they gave them)! Everyone wants Japan to go to their birthday party too("invest" in their country)! Man they have the world around there finger!

Same thing in today's world. You just don't hear about it.

Hey, seeing as how I was a third tier member of the Joint Strike Fighter program (contributing $440 million), does that means I get dibs on the F-35?

Actually I just realised that the CF-18 still have a lot of life in them, but I wouldn't mind more fighters

For the record, I consider having embassies already established with the majority of countries IRL (the same ones Australia has embassies in, IRL).

For the record, I consider having embassies already established with the majority of countries IRL (the same ones Australia has embassies in, IRL).

Pffffft Lazy...:p

For the record, I consider having embassies already established with the majority of countries IRL (the same ones Australia has embassies in, IRL).

Establish one with Libya...we have oil...and mercenaries.

Without a doubt in my mind Japan is the Kool Kid of this earth. Every one wants to hang out at his house(embassy exchange) play with his toys(buying Japans products), There even giving him stuff(Soviet Union's great deals they gave them)! Everyone wants Japan to go to their birthday party too("invest" in their country)! Man they have the world around there finger!

Duh. They're friends with the Athlete who can kick everyone's butt (America) and have a hot sister (South Korea), of course we want relations. ;)

Duh. They're friends with the Athlete who can kick everyone's butt (America) and have a hot sister (South Korea), of course we want relations. ;)

LOL! :cool: Well then i must be the crazy uncle no one likes! Ive gtg for awhile. If you want to share plans(USS, Cuba, Japan) TG me. If you are interested in Oil or anything else i export TG me also! Thanks ahead!

Duh. They're friends with the Athlete who can kick everyone's butt (America) and have a hot sister (South Korea), of course we want relations. ;)

They also have henchmen to do things they want while keeping their hands clean (Libyan Mercs.)

For the record, I consider having embassies already established with the majority of countries IRL (the same ones Australia has embassies in, IRL).

Ooooh, well then, I guess I'll have to set one up. Unless your counting Russia's as the USSR's.

Hon I TGed you.

Ooooh, well then, I guess I'll have to set one up. Unless your counting Russia's as the USSR's.

Nah, Russia's can count for the U.S.S.R. Just this time though :P

Nah, Russia's can count for the U.S.S.R. Just this time though :P

Alright. :p

I am pro-longing my need to start my essay on Civil War Economics...

Anyhow i posted in IC thread...

I am prolonging beginning to study for the hardest final I'll take, Chemistry. But, shhh, don't tell anyone.

Chemistry was easy. :P

Whoever wanted to be Egypt is approved. I need a side though, and get up a factbook whenever possible.

Chemistry was easy. :P

Bah! I got the hardest and most boring chemistry teacher at my school.

Candistan, out of curiosity, how do you deliver this oil. Because something tells me that if I ever want to sever this Honduran tie without any real consequences now's the time.

Bah! I got the hardest and most boring chemistry teacher at my school.

My teacher is a National Guard Member who left us for half the semester because of Urban Training. :P Pure awesome.

My teacher is a National Guard Member who left us for half the semester because of Urban Training. :P Pure awesome.

Damn you... OH, and did I mention, my final in that class is the last class on the last day of school (Thursday) :(

Candistan, out of curiosity, how do you deliver this oil. Because something tells me that if I ever want to sever this Honduran tie without any real consequences now's the time.

Most of it is deleviered via tanker and railway, so I think you're safe from any threat of lack of oil.

Damn you... OH, and did I mention, my final in that class is the last class on the last day of school (Thursday) :(

Sucks to be you. I'm already out.

No one cares about my post...! This is an outrage!














I really don't want to start my work...:(

Sucks to be you. I'm already out.

Gosh you all are lucky. I don't get out till the 8th.

Would it be alright if I joined with an organization say a right wing terrorist group instead of a country?

You want to be the right-wing terrorists in my nation?

You want to be the right-wing terrorists in my nation?

Sure but I was thinking more along a global CIA funded organization(I would need aproval of course from Honako) that was created to act as a nusance to the commies.

Sure but I was thinking more along a global CIA funded organization(I would need aproval of course from Honako) that was created to act as a nusance to the commies.

Alright, check with him and if he doesn't go with it, my people are still available.

Alright, check with him and if he doesn't go with it, my people are still available.

Ok, can I still join for the moment and later work on where I am stationed?

Ok, can I still join for the moment and later work on where I am stationed?

I don't know what to put you down as yet, and as a terrorist group, you won't occupy any land on the map.

I don't know what to put you down as yet, and as a terrorist group, you won't occupy any land on the map.

Just put me down as NATO for the moment even though I'm not actually with them at the moment and if that can't happen then put me down in Neutral. Oh and the name of the group is called "The Democratic Liberation Armed Forces"

I'm looking to take over The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, if it is still available. From what I know of history, Pakistan was a NATO ally.

I'm looking to take over The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, if it is still available. From what I know of history, Pakistan was a NATO ally.

Approved.

H-Town Could i begin the Invasion of Unnoccupied Republic of Congo? I won't god mod the invasion ;)

H-Town Could i begin the Invasion of Unnoccupied Republic of Congo? I won't god mod the invasion ;)

Get somebody to RP the Republic of the Congo. I trust you won't.

um, then why is Terre running the invasion all by himself?

Are there any special requirements for the factbook or is it the usual format? Last question before I start on my factbook.

Are there any special requirements for the factbook or is it the usual format? Last question before I start on my factbook.

Since you're a terrorist group, I'd say just make a history of your founding, a rough estimate of your numbers, your weapons, supporters, and maybe an HQ if you have one.

um, then why is Terre running the invasion all by himself?

He's not. Free shepmagans is RPing Honduras.

He's not. Free shepmagans is RPing Honduras.

terre won't reply to me calling him out...as soon as i find that RP thrread i'll post my remark in there...That Facist State is going down:D(if i can provoke him...)

Marz Could you RP Rep of Congo for me? I would post up the invasion thread soon, the Congo Army should be weaker [in numbers and technology] than mine, but are better led.

Will someone rp Syria for me, after I put up my factbook.

Marz Could you RP Rep of Congo for me? I would post up the invasion thread soon, the Congo Army should be weaker [in numbers and technology] than mine, but are better led.

Err...i'd love to but im not going to be on for the rest of tonight and im not the BEST rp'er. If you want to start it tommarrow and still want me, then hey! i'd love to do it! But if you want an amazing RP'er then ask AB to do it...

He's not. Free shepmagans is RPing Honduras.

That was ok right? We didn't have to ask you for permission? Also, Libya, heads up. ;)

shep would you mind if you Rp Rep. Of Congo as well?

That was ok right? We didn't have to ask you for permission? Also, Libya, heads up. ;)

Of course you don't have to ask permission, so long as you're not just having the other country lay flat for one of your buddies.

Of course you don't have to ask permission, so long as you're not just having the other country lay flat for one of your buddies.

Heh. I'm planning on having those cities fight to the last man. ;)

shep would you mind if you Rp Rep. Of Congo as well?

Sorry, I think it might be a conflict of interest, as we're both in Africa. :)

You want to be the right-wing terrorists in my nation?

Hey, do you have the estimate done yet?

H-town i found something werid, but in this RP, Terre's GDP is too high, its 1000% more than the actual GDP the country is in now.

H-town i found something werid, but in this RP, Terre's GDP is too high, its 1000% more than the actual GDP the country is in now.

Yea, we're trying to fix that right now.

H-town i found something werid, but in this RP, Terre's GDP is too high, its 1000% more than the actual GDP the country is in now.

Also, I'd like to RP to nation you're invading

lol i thought it was a slight increase only ;) until i checked on the CIA website...

Do you think the Warsaw Pact Nations should make a thread just like the NATO Nations did?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528462

Here's my factbook.

Just to clarify, Egypt is a neutral nation.

LoL now Yugoslavia's GDP is too high and unrealistic [400 Billiob? LoL]:mad:

If thats the case i should increase my GDP by 100% that would be 400 Billion USD :p

Do you think the Warsaw Pact Nations should make a thread just like the NATO Nations did?
Yes, make one tommarrow please, we need to elcect a leader and focus on a couple of issue(weather or not Me and the USSR/CUBA deicde to bring that up for the public...
LoL now Yugoslavia's GDP is too high and unrealistic [400 Billiob? LoL]:mad:

If thats the case i should increase my GDP by 100% that would be 400 Billion USD :p



Sigh another uber high GPD

I am using my rl GDP which is about 613 bill, and my population can eat Yugoslavia's several times over. I am sure my Per capita is also higher, but I will check later.

FACTBOOK- http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12713446#post12713446

Sigh another uber high GPD

Well, his GDP is actually 200 billion or so (give or take a few ten billions) so it's not that unrealistic. I would say he should lower it to 300 billion for realism.

Under those pretenses what should my GDP be?

Yeah, some of these economies are too high.

And, and too the pro-NATO terror group - the CIA would happily find you somewhere to base yourself in some obscure desert area. And Russia, even if you have built more planes and sped up development, you do realise that you have sold massive porportions of your active airforce? Your effectively making yourself weaker selling, with little benefit to your economy as your selling them cheaply.

I take Germany neutral.

Taken, as for China the Stupid Cahirman of China is inactive

well I want everyone to know that the Albanian GDP that i made was far bellow what it says on the net. On the net it says the GDP per capita is over $4000. I made the GDP per capita on this game a $1400 so i was trying to beal realistic because.....no offence to communism but it didnt really work in Albania and i guess 6 decades of schisms and isolationism didnt help either.

I explained this already... just can't see what's the goddamn' problem here!

Yugoslavia was doing fine, until the late 70's decline of the Soviet block economies started to be felt there too. This is where they moved away from the block, became more neutral, and did libertanian reforms.

In 90's, when Tito died, 1.Soviet Union did not collapse, 2.There was no civil war, 3.There was no Kosovo war, 4.There were no international trade blockades or anything... and 5.The whole economical system went through a great reformation in 1999 "Unionist Revolution".

All this is explained in my factbook. Considering these 5 points and comparing them to the actual economy of Yugoslavia before the collapse and nowadays economies of the splinter-republics (keeping in mind the 5 points) I'd say that 17,500 USD's GDP/Capita is quite realistic.

TG sent to Granate and Futuris.

Hey, could somebody RP Malaysia? Right now, the USSR and I are bugging it to extradite Indonesia's ex-leader Wira bin Dian for trial.

See this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12710668&postcount=40) post and this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12712712&postcount=75) one. Any background you need on the ex-leader I will give to you.

The fact book for the Kingdom of Spain is up

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528418

If we were allowed to rewrite history, I could ex-out the Turkish socialist reforms to make a stronger private-sector?

If we were allowed to rewrite history, I could ex-out the Turkish socialist reforms to make a stronger private-sector?

If you wanted.