NationStates Jolt Archive

Okay, here's the restart of that World in Conflict 2018 thing. As you might have guessed, I'm changing the time frame to present day.

So, without further ado, here are the rules.

1. You may claim one existing nation from this (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/coldwar2000.png) map. You cannot claim play as your NS country, and this is Cold War era, so there's still a Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, North and South Yemen, USSR, and no Eritrea (shame, I know everybody wanted it...:p). With my approval, you can play some sort of terrorist organization, but not before we get at least ten people.
Also, when you claim, if you have an idea on who you want to side with (NATO, the Warsaw Pact, or if you want to stay neutral), say it.

2. Obviously, you get liberties with your history, since the Soviet Union managed to stay together. I'm going to be pretty loose on this, especially if you can come up with some good writing for it, but try to stay within the realm of possibility.

3. Attempt to come up with some info on your nation and post it. You can make a separate thread, you can post it on this thread...I don't really care. But I need info, with your altered history if it is at all altered, posted somewhere.

4. You will obey myself and any mods I happen to appoint. THE END.

5. Keep technology realistic for the time frame and for the nations you have claimed. I'll appoint a tech mod to look over your stuff, since I honestly suck at that kind of thing.

6. Obviously, do not godmode. My mods and I will judge what is godmoding and what isn't.

7. When dealing with NPCs, get another player to RP them, or get a mod or myself. If nobody RPs your NPC within a week, you get to do it.

8. I'm thinking a 1 day=2 week timescale, but that's up for debate.

9. If you have a thread, I suggest posting a link to it on this thread, so I can list all the IC threads for this we have going.

Map (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/coldwar2000.png)

NATO
United States of America: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528188) Honako
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528172) Pan-Arab Barronia
Federal Republic of Germany: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528274) Armorfx
Italian Republic: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528191) Tymh Spltr Invsn
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528390) Mussleburgh
Dominion of Canada: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528221) Sendersdale
State of Israel: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528273) San Serria
Commonwealth of Australia: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528307) Hosagovina
United Kingdom of Korea: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528174) Calizorinstan
Democratic Republic of Sweden: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528228) Kampfers
Federal Norwegian Republic: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528231) British Londinium
Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528200) Terre Nationale
Kingdom of Spain: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528418) New Bauhaus
Hellenic Republic: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12709291) RevTerr
Republic of Turkey: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12713446) Carloginias
Islamic Republic of Pakistan: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528459) Northen_Feria
Democratic Liberation Armed Forces: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528457) Deurem

Warsaw Pact
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528177) Corbournne
People's Republic of France: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528190) The Sith Clan
Polish People's Republic: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12702214#post12702214) The Tynish Dynasty
People's Republic of China: Mathism
Revolutionary State of Cuba: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528198) North Calaveras
German Democratic Republic: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528183) Vetalia
Worker's Republic of Mexico: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528335) Marxikhan
Democratic Republic of Afghanistan: Cazelia
Socialist Republic of Romania: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528333) Czechalrus
People's Democratic Liberation Army: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528257) Donagadhee Golf Club

Neutral
Republic of Indonesia: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528169) H-Town Tejas (Great Leader, Mapmaker, and Illmatic Buddha MC)
Imperial Republic of Japan: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12702247#post12702247) Amazonian Beasts
Glorious State of South Africa: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528181) Free shepmagans
Republic of India: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528256) Waldenburg 2
Democratic Republic of the Congo: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528245) Kansiov
Persian Republic: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528290) Shakal
Federal Republic of Nigeria: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12708645) Zelron
Federative Republic of Brazil: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528267) Granate
Argentine Republic: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528277) Canadstein
Federal Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12709182) Kronstadtia
Great Socialist Libyan Peoples Arab Jamahiriyah: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528262) Candistan
Democratic People's Republic of Korea: Aios
Socialist Republic of Vietnam: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528392) Pyschotika
People's Republic of Albania: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528364) Lerasia
Republic of Chile: Futuris
Grand Sultanate of Egypt: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528462) Drekon
Irish Republican Army: Irish Corsica

Ussr.

Gotcha.

America please. I had it strangely in the previous thread.

France, and make it the Warsaw Pact, if thats all right.

I'll come up with the alterd history to make it fit.

Both approved. I still need some sort of info posts from all of you guys, though.

Japan, por favor.

And Neutral, for now.

France, and make it the Warsaw Pact, if thats all right.

I'll come up with the alterd history to make it fit.

France has betrayed me already. :p Also, by info, I assume you mean a general factbook on our nations?

France has betrayed me already. :p Also, by info, I assume you mean a general factbook on our nations?

Yeah. Mainly for the alternate history, but other info as well.

AB, you're approved, by the way.

revTAG, for now.

Gotcha.

Hooray! The first time I've ever been any form of Russia, and I'm working on an alternate history of the USSR thing.

The Peoples Republic of France.

In the year 2000 a communist rebellion broke out with massive support in France. Within a year The communists had forced out the government leaders and dismantled the former government.

With the new Communist government installed the leaders of The People's Republic of France decided to Join the Warsaw pact.

The Capital is Paris, and the leader is Jaques LaBleu.

GDP: $2.154 Trillion
GDP Per Capita: $30,100

Millitary 4% of Population

Modern French Vehicles/weapons

Population: 63,713,926

Second question - would the Soviet Unions technology similar to that of Russia's today?

Man I can't make up my mind

Ok I wanna be Poland in the Warsaw Pact (obviously)

Second question - would the Soviet Unions technology similar to that of Russia's today?

Question for Japan:

Would the American-imposed No-non-defensive combat treaty still apply if I was going to go in Neutral?

Mathism would like to play as China in the Warsaw Pact.
Its fun being the bad guys once in a while.
lol

Would China's technology be similar to that of China's today?

Are we gonna make Fact Books?

Claims are approved.

AB: That's written into the Constitution of Japan; if you want to have your lawmakers change that, they can.

All tech questions: Yes, it's present day tech. You can change what you're equipped with if you don't like it, but all that is available to your nation right now is available to it in this RP.

Tynish: Yes.

What exactly do we need to put into them


Can I make some of my men have FAMAS cause I love that gun :p

No-ones claimed the UK? Are we that shoddy today?

Hell, I'll do it.

I'll take the United Kingdom, if you would, my good man. I should like this to include all territories at the time, that is to say, Falklands, Ascension Islands, etc.

Sounds good. I'll be on a Japanese factbook after I finish up an ESS post.

What exactly do we need to put into them


Can I make some of my men have FAMAS cause I love that gun :p

Mainly just your alternate history for this timeline. If you don't want to change anything except Communism never fell in your country, that's fine, just say that.

If you want FAMAS's...you need to be talking to your new Communist France.

UK is approved...

Ok, heres me sounding untechnical and noobish.

What is a FAMA?

Ok Thanks

I believe FAMAS is a type of weapon.

I'll stick to Japan's already fairly-formidable military, and just buy and research stuff from there (I mean, a tough enough military, with less than 1% of the budget going there-that can certainly improve while keeping up the number 2 economy in the world, behind the USA).

I'll probably just end up buying weapons. I'm really not that great at coming up with new technology.

Good, cause I didn't want to find out that the USSR had suddenly got as powerful as the US technology wise.

Most of my stats and equipment will remain the same, though thats not a fact and may change before we begin. However my military will have got noticeably larger due to the Communist threat, but thats for the main factbook.

Good to see the UK chosen, I was going to chose it as it's where I am from, however the superpower tempted me. As America I'll probably be more open to selling my equipment as well, only to NATO members, as we'll need it to protect ourselves from the 'threat'.

Ok, heres me sounding untechnical and noobish.

What is a FAMA?

This (http://world.guns.ru/assault/as21-e.htm) is the FAMAS, which is made in France. I think Tynish wants to buy some from you or something.

Ok, heres me sounding untechnical and noobish.

What is a FAMA?

A FAMAS (don't forget the "S") is the standard issue rifle of the French Army

Telegram to the French Ministry Of Defense

The Polish Army would like to obtain 1,500 FAMAS Assualt Rifles from your Military. Please give us a fair price and we will pay you ASAP.

Polish Ministy of Defense

Oh, well ok then Thanks for clearing that up. I'll have whatever technology France already has plus I'll but new Tech when the time comes.

And of course we can sell FAMAS to our Warsaw Pact Allies, when the time comes and the we start.

Do we post the Factbook on this one or do you want us to wait?

Do we post the Factbook on this one or do you want us to wait?

Post it here, or start a new thread for it if you want. But do post it now, yes.

I'm exceedingly tempted to take South Africa and make it neutral and fascist (Think black supremacists, essentially apartheid fell and the victims decided to exterminate their oppressors.). I would like to inquire if I'd be allowed to have a military build up ala immediately pre-WW2 Germany and go on a little rampage, the justification being that NATO is just glad that I'm not siding with the Reds, and Warsaw is too worried about NATO/bogged down somewhere to commit forces. Would that be possible? i can change it if you don't think it's feasible/wise. I just figured I'd ask.

What all do we need in our Factbooks?

(sorry I don't do War RPs often, mostly just Character RPs)

Question for Japan:

Would the American-imposed No-non-defensive combat treaty still apply if I was going to go in Neutral?

I'm slightly confused - was that directed to me and do I have a say in this?

I'll make a seperate post, and link it here. May take a few hours.

I'm slightly confused - was that directed to me and do I have a say in this?

I directed it towards H-Town, but it could be you too. After all, with so much tech in Japan...a waste if it had to be embargoed from going across the Pacific.

I directed it towards H-Town, but it could be you too. After all, with so much tech in Japan...a waste if it had to be embargoed from going across the Pacific.

Oh trust me, the Americans would like Japan on there side. Though letting you build up an offensive military force when your neutral and so close would be slightly worrying. :p

I'm exceedingly tempted to take South Africa and make it neutral and fascist (Think black supremacists, essentially apartheid fell and the victims decided to exterminate their oppressors.). I would like to inquire if I'd be allowed to have a military build up ala immediately pre-WW2 Germany and go on a little rampage, the justification being that NATO is just glad that I'm not siding with the Reds, and Warsaw is too worried about NATO/bogged down somewhere to commit forces. Would that be possible? i can change it if you don't think it's feasible/wise. I just figured I'd ask.

I suppose that's feasible. After all, NATO has a habit of only seeing horrible massacres when the people committing them are burning American flags or whatever...

What all do we need in our Factbooks?

(sorry I don't do War RPs often, mostly just Character RPs)

History and current leadership/government stuff, definitely. Other than that, you can post your economy, military, stuff like that if you want.

Well, how would I find my economy and Millitary? I've already posted the History and Leadership.

Well, how would I find my economy and Millitary? I've already posted the History and Leadership.

For your economy, just use the CIA World Factbook. As for your military, that's really up to you, within reasonable limits (military no more than 5% of your pop, equipment is all stuff France could reasonably get, etc.)

Can i be Cuba

Well, how would I find my economy and Millitary? I've already posted the History and Leadership.

Go on Wikipedia if you want to be realistic. $1.871 trillion is your economy - you have 359,000 in the military, however 100,000 of these are not fit for military operations. That's just very very basic details.

I'll be South Korea, aligned with Neutral, if it's still around to be claimed.

can i be cuba on warsaw pact side

Safe to assume this is RL stats for the nations, rather than NS pops? Sorry, just wondering if that's what "cannot claim NS nation" meant.

RL, I believe. NS wouldn't make sense.

Woohoo! Finally, another East-Asian neutral country (because Japanese naturally can't trust China...)

can i be revolutionary cuba

Would South Korea in this still have F-4D's around then for fighters? I mean if it's going to be RL pop, shouldn't we have RL equipment too?

I'll be East Germany, if it hasn't been taken yet, aligned with the Warsaw Pact.

I edited my post that my name on the front is linked too. It has Military and economy now.

I've got a lot more to come, but here's the bare bones:

Imperial Republic of Japan Factbook

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12702247#post12702247

I've got a factbook/diplomacy thread that's rather barebones, but more will come: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528174

I Need To Be Confirmed!

Here's the beginnings of mine:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528172

Ok mine is "bare bones" also but it's pretty good for now

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12702214#post12702214

I Need To Be Confirmed!

You gotta wait for the one who started the thread. He hasn't posted for a bit. Just be patient. I'm sure you will be.

can i be cuba on warsaw pact side

Oooh, I'll be watching you now.

im watching you too :):)

Oooh, I'll be watching you now.

hehe, ruddy Cubans. Means I'll have to watch south america now...don't want them getting a navy together and going after the Ascensions€, or doing something equally silly.

Cuban Missle Crisis

I've sent AB and Calizorinstan just enquiring about something, nothing too important.

can i be revolutionary cuba

Yes. All claims approved.

Preliminary Factbook Up.

Replied, Honako. However, Money and Japanese interests are my primary motivator (that goes for Corbournne's side too, if they could scrounge together funds. NATO is clearly stronger economically with the world's #1 economic power).

Yeah. I have the current stuff, I just need to upload.

Time warp! Word!

NATO is looking a bit... empty.

H- Town, will you be updating the map?

NATO is empty because of the lack of people chosing major European powers I think, and the descision of France.

Honako, replied to your TG, I wonder if we could set something up like SETO for South Korea?

Hey, I wanted to be France and I wanted to Be Communist.

So France is communist and part of the Warsaw Pact.

It was either that or Switzerland. But I figured Switzerland would be better being neutral.

I claim West Germany.

Ok guys my Factbook is pretty much done so please go and look at it and tell me to add some stuff

Link - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12702214#post12702214

I claim West Germany.

Approved.

Hey, I wanted to be France and I wanted to Be Communist.

So France is communist and part of the Warsaw Pact.

It was either that or Switzerland. But I figured Switzerland would be better being neutral.

I never said there was a problem with France being commie, however it is one reason for NATO's emptyiness. ;)

Come on guys check my Fact book out


Link - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12702214#post12702214

I'll definitely have some kind of factbook up tomorrow, maybe something tonight.

Yeah well, anybody could have joined NATO. If Japan wasn't Neutral it could have been NATO or Warsaw Pact. Same can be said for any of them. I think the only one that absolutely had to be Warswa Pact was USSR.

I'll definitely have some kind of factbook up tomorrow, maybe something tonight.

NATO or Commie? Which side of the Iron Curtain will WG go...

Yeah well, anybody could have joined NATO. If Japan wasn't Neutral it could have been NATO or Warsaw Pact. Same can be said for any of them. I think the only one that absolutely had to be Warswa Pact was USSR.

Um Poland also had to be saying that the Pact was signed in it's capitol


:cool:

Nato

Um Poland also had to be saying that the Pact was signed in it's capitol


:cool:


Oh, guess your right.


So West Germany is NATO. Looks like they got another one! Congrats guys!

Replied, Honako. However, Money and Japanese interests are my primary motivator (that goes for Corbournne's side too, if they could scrounge together funds. NATO is clearly stronger economically with the world's #1 economic power).

Yes, and, you could, um, help "balance the odds" if you joined us, and, maybe get some *ahem*revenge*cough* on the United States. ;)

And yeah, it kind of defeats the purpose of calling it the "Warsaw Pact" if Poland was NATO, haha. :p

Hey can i be Communist Mexico?

Hey can i be Communist Mexico?

Okay.

Time warp again!

And I remember when I was in an RP with a Communist Mexico...lol.

Yeah well, anybody could have joined NATO. If Japan wasn't Neutral it could have been NATO or Warsaw Pact. Same can be said for any of them. I think the only one that absolutely had to be Warswa Pact was USSR.

Well my nation barebones factbook up (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12702431#post12702431) Has a beef with the traditionally NATO nations, and hates communism, so I had to be neutral. Though I did ponder joining NATO on the grounds that since we hate communism, NATO'd like us. And who knows, odds are either NATO or Warsaw and I will become De Jure allies, depending on which crusade of extermination we go on first.

I just realized we MUST have someone as Iran.

Why Must we?

Question. Do I have a nuclear stockpile? In the real world SA had a program and may have completed a test... allegedly, but they abandoned it.

If Iran was about to get a nuke what do you think the USSR would do?

If Iran was about to get a nuke what do you think the USSR would do?

Nothing, Iran would probably be on the Soviet's side.

Now, if they weren't, Tehran would have a problem.

I'd like to sign up, if I can. I'd like to be Italy. (That includes the Vatican City, if you don't mind.)


EDIT: I'd like to be on NATO. :D

GDR Factbook is up:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528183

Idk, the USSR was traditionally somewhat disliking of that region (Afghanistan memories...)

I don't Know, try to get them to join?


Oh and I just realized, I control that one area in South America too don't I?

What is it? Is it French New Guinea or somthing along those lines? America watch out we'll be having Bases there too!

Corbournne;12702477']Nothing, Iran would probably be on the Soviet's side.

Now, if they weren't, Tehran would have a problem.
I suppose.
But still, having some kind of radical leader in Iran could create some interesting situations.

what are we putting in this fact book btw?

i will probably go for south america

what are we putting in this fact book btw?

Make a new thread, I've decided that works better.

Also, do you have an official name you want me to put down for Communist Mexico, or do you want to keep using "Estados Unidos Mexicanos?"

I don't Know, try to get them to join?


Oh and I just realized, I control that one area in South America too don't I?

What is it? Is it French New Guinea or somthing along those lines? America watch out we'll be having Bases there too!

I think you're thinking French Guyana. New Guinea is in Southeast Asia.

I suppose.
But still, having some kind of radical leader in Iran could create some interesting situations.

Indeed it could. And if I'm allowed to have Nuclear weapons (Still waiting on that confirmation) I might just be willing to have a strategic buffer zone... er... ally between Africa and the Europeans.

Indeed it could. And if I'm allowed to have Nuclear weapons (Still waiting on that confirmation) I might just be willing to have a strategic buffer zone... er... ally between Africa and the Europeans.

You are, since apartheid SA did manage to make one or two nukes. The ANC dismantled them.

I'd like to sign up, if I can. I'd like to be Italy. (That includes the Vatican City, if you don't mind.)


EDIT: I'd like to be on NATO. :D

I do. As small as it is, I'm not one to make exceptions to my rules. But, you do get Italy.

I think you're thinking French Guyana. New Guinea is in Southeast Asia.

Ahh, thanks I was looking for that. My pocket maps words are just soo tiny!

I'd like to sign up, if I can. I'd like to be Italy. (That includes the Vatican City, if you don't mind.)


EDIT: I'd like to be on NATO. :D

I do. As small as it is, I'm not one to make exceptions to my rules. But, you do get Italy.


Okay. That's fine. Now, do I have to post a WFB entry for Italy? I didn't really see that in the rules anywhere.

Okay. That's fine. Now, do I have to post a WFB entry for Italy? I didn't really see that in the rules anywhere.

Rule #3. I didn't use the word "factbook." But, you do. It doesn't have to be very detailed, but at the very least I need any changes to your history you want to make.

I think it can be simple. Mine's simple. no-ones asked me to do more.

I would like to join in as Scotland please! :D if not then Saudi Arabia would be cool. :) Also as both I would be NATO.


Long live the peoples republic of Mussleburgh!

I would like to join in as Scotland please! :D if not then Saudi Arabia would be cool. :) Also as both I would be NATO.


Long live the peoples republic of Mussleburgh!

You get Saudi. I'll put you down.

Make a new thread, I've decided that works better.

Also, do you have an official name you want me to put down for Communist Mexico, or do you want to keep using "Estados Unidos Mexicanos?"

Sure! Can i add Guatemalia, Honduras and Nigeragua also?(or at least one or two of them?)

I'm just using my template for the NAR I used on ESS, but if I were you, don't bother including most of those little details I use.

Hey, H- Town. Would you like me to post a seperate thread for my Factbook?

Hey, H- Town. Would you like me to post a seperate thread for my Factbook?

Yes he said that earlier. (This thread's getting hectic eh? ;)) Actually, I take that bit about giving Iran weapons back. It would go against my nation's probable stance on Israeli interests. And thanks to H-town for my leader's new name.

i tged you sith

It's one country each Marx. Plus I replied AB to your TG a while ago.

It's one country each Marx. Plus I replied AB to your TG a while ago.

ah, ok

Yes North I check em every few minutes... between posts. I see that.

Ok, I'll repost my Factbook in a new thread.

It's one country each Marx. Plus I replied AB to your TG a while ago.

Should I reply back? I've seen it, but It's one of those "Ok" TGs.

Posted my factbook, so...yeah.

Well, my factbooks more or less done, I'll just open it for posting now.

Idk, the USSR was traditionally somewhat disliking of that region (Afghanistan memories...)

True, it depends on if the Iraq-Iran War ever happened in this timeline. If so, with thew US backing Iraq, Iran would pretty much have to turn to the USSR for support, and my factbook can be posted in now.

Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua. (FRSN)

Basically I'll come up with a story line that explains how Nicaragua became Fascist. Also, must I also include the devastating hurricanes of the 90's. Of which Nicaragua is still recovering. That would truly be a damper on my parade. :(

{Since we're so close to the NATO capitol, the FRSN would be in NATO, unless its government type is forbidden. In which case it would be neutral.}

Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua. (FRSN)

Basically I'll come up with a story line that explains how Nicaragua became Fascist. Also, must I also include the devastating hurricanes of the 90's. Of which Nicaragua is still recovering. That would truly be a damper on my parade. :(

Actually, those hurricanes might be a good excuse for fascists to come to power, but you don't have to necessarily put them in.

What side?

Nicaragua? Nice!

Posted my factbook, so...yeah.

...Uhm...When I hit the 'Submit Topic' it's supposed to post...right? Or is my post not showing up for a little while normal?

...Uhm...When I hit the 'Submit Topic' it's supposed to post...right? Or is my post not showing up for a little while normal?

Nope. I'm sorry to tell you, but Jolt just fucked you.

Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua. (FRSN)

Basically I'll come up with a story line that explains how Nicaragua became Fascist. Also, must I also include the devastating hurricanes of the 90's. Of which Nicaragua is still recovering. That would truly be a damper on my parade. :(

Different timeline...who knew if those events would have happened ;)

I'd personally say no...if it adds to the excitement. And leave my damned islands alone punk! Don't make me go all British Empire on yo' ass...

Nope. I'm sorry to tell you, but Jolt just fucked you.


Well...Thank god for Firefox. *goes back, copies his post, and tries to repost it.*

...Uhm...When I hit the 'Submit Topic' it's supposed to post...right? Or is my post not showing up for a little while normal?

You're new, it's being moderated. Can't remember what you do to get round that...do you just post again?

Oh, and I'm done. Be on either later or tomorrow afternoon.

Toodley-oodley.

I Want The Carribean And South America!

I Want The Carribean And South America!

XD Read the first rule...one country only. Not continent.

I put a brief history in my American Factbook - if you want to know things about me, go there. :p My President is black and a civil rights activist but who has a hidden dislike for communists, you can't hate him.

I Want The Carribean And South America!

Your cuba I thought.

I put a brief history in my American Factbook - if you want to know things about me, go there. :p My President is black and a civil rights activist but who has a hidden dislike for communists, you can't hate him.

Unless your a communist.

I Want The Carribean And South America!

I didn't give TSI the Vatican...why would I give you an entire continent?

Anyways, I'm going to be gone for a while. Spam-a-lot's in town, and I gotta eat too.

Well you can if your communist.

Oh and I think North was just stating he wants to conquer South America.

I put a brief history in my American Factbook - if you want to know things about me, go there. :p My President is black and a civil rights activist but who has a hidden dislike for communists, you can't hate him.

Moscow does.

Corbournne;12702790']Moscow does.

Duh. :p

Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua. (FRSN)

Basically I'll come up with a story line that explains how Nicaragua became Fascist. Also, must I also include the devastating hurricanes of the 90's. Of which Nicaragua is still recovering. That would truly be a damper on my parade. :(

{Since we're so close to the NATO capitol, the FRSN would be in NATO, unless its government type is forbidden. In which case it would be neutral.}

Score! Another fascist! We might even be able to overlook your alliance with the Europeans because of that... maybe. ;)

well time to start working on me factbook. In my History it will tell about how Mexico ended up communist: After 'Nam, Russia decied to hit a little closer to home for the US and began funding left-wing paramilitary groups. America still deep in anti-war culture opted not to do anything about it. Eventuly the rebels took over the country and with Cuba, became the Communist leaders in the West.

well time to start working on me factbook. In my History it will tell about how Mexico ended up communist: After 'Nam, Russia decied to hit a little closer to home for the US and began funding left-wing paramilitary groups. America still deep in anti-war culture opted not to do anything about it. Eventuly the rebels took over the country and with Cuba, became the Communist leaders in the West.

Sounds good to me. :D

Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua. (FRSN)

Basically I'll come up with a story line that explains how Nicaragua became Fascist. Also, must I also include the devastating hurricanes of the 90's. Of which Nicaragua is still recovering. That would truly be a damper on my parade. :(

{Since we're so close to the NATO capitol, the FRSN would be in NATO, unless its government type is forbidden. In which case it would be neutral.}

I TG'd you about that.

Corbournne;12702847']Sounds good to me. :D

Thanks :D

Can I have Israel

If Canada isn't taken yet, can I claim it?

If Canada isn't taken yet, can I claim it?

Sure not taken.

Canada and Israel, finally good to see some people claim usual NATO friends - if I haven't spoken too soon.

Surprised Israel didn't go earlier. One of the military powers.

My factbook now includes my diplomatic standings. If you're classed as an enemy, it does not necessarily mean I'm going to try and invade and declare war on you - at this moment it time it's just a showing of severe distrust.

Which is basically anyone in the Warsaw Pact.

So-we have to Join NATO to get the good stuff outta the US military?

Hm. I don't like that much...

VIVIA CUBA, VIVA France Viva Fidel, Viva Mexico, Viva Warsaw pact! Viva Revolutoin

So-we have to Join NATO to get the good stuff outta the US military?

Hm. I don't like that much...

Speaking of that, Honako, I suppose I have your support including bases?

Sorry, I think I didn't word that right.

This also only applies to NATO and neutral nations who we deem pro-NATO.

Trade deals are supplied to nations we trust who are neutral as well as nations within NATO itself. However, we have to make sure your pro-NATO and not pro-Warsaw Pact in order to sell. We are not totally looking for war with the Warsaw Pact, we just would prefer not to supply them with weapons if it did come to that!

My factbook now includes my diplomatic standings. If you're classed as an enemy, it does not necessarily mean I'm going to try and invade and declare war on you - at this moment it time it's just a showing of severe distrust.

Oh, big surprise, the USSR is classified as an "enemy." :p

Sorry, I think I didn't word that right.



Trade deals are supplied to nations we trust who are neutral as well as nations within NATO itself. However, we have to make sure your pro-NATO and not pro-Warsaw Pact in order to sell. We are not totally looking for war with the Warsaw Pact, we just would prefer not to supply them with weapons if it did come to that!

Ah-hah, I getcha.

I TG'd you about that.

Replied.

Corbournne;12703040']Oh, big surprise, the USSR is classified as an "enemy." :p

By the way, you have yourself as an ally.

I know, I changed that shortly afterwards. ;)

Actually, the only reason your classed as an enemy is because the UK did it and I thought we might as well unite in our hate against you (:p). Usually I wouldn't say a nation, however much of a bad history there is between, is an enemy unless we had actaully had some conflict.

Factbook is up.

So, is it possible for us to start alliances, apart from NATO and the Warsaw Pact?

I realize having too many Alliances is bad, but still I'm curious.

respect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97mEWecqA4

So, is it possible for us to start alliances, apart from NATO and the Warsaw Pact?

I realize having too many Alliances is bad, but still I'm curious.

Probaly, but aren't you already in the Warsaw Pact? That's an alliance...

respect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97mEWecqA4

I don't respect Che :p

Probaly, but aren't you already in the Warsaw Pact? That's an alliance...

I know, thus the second part of my post. Being in too many alliances will hurt you.

So...where's the IC thread? I didn't really see one around anywhere.

Oh. Ok.

So...where's the IC thread? I didn't really see one around anywhere.

I think we're still planning... or something.

I don't think we can start till H- Town gets back.

We should wait longer for more people to join. Its bad to start the IC thread too soon.

We should wait longer for more people to join. Its bad to start the IC thread too soon.

I agree. That was some of the failings of the last one - well, you can start an IC thread for normal things like news reports, but when people jump right into invasions etc. on the first day of the earth it just gets a bit disorganized.

You have a point.

um... i think i'll have Afgahistan

Two posts 'till Japan's factbook opens.

Speaking of that, Honako, I suppose I have your support including bases?

Yep, America will have a very strong presence in Western Germany due to the threat of your neighbours - probably the most troops in there out of anywhere in Europe. We can increase that presence there if you want by requesting in my factbook, or decrease it (though that would probably not be wise).

Sure not taken.

Canada and Israel, finally good to see some people claim usual NATO friends - if I haven't spoken too soon.
Does this mean I'm in now? If so I'll get started on my factbook

Anyhow in the meantime, everyone enjoy some good old Anti-Communist Propaganda :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_DaMKUP3Og&mode=related&search=#

Certainly you are not woorried about little old France?
We are most definately Focused a little more... to the South...

Honako, will I have your support regarding bases too? Condering that a communist is my northern neighbor after all....

lol, propaganda,

Che was a honest, good hardworking man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh-MB_NDr-o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5WR_svilY

speach of imperial evil.(it was old france your cool now)

Honako, will I have your support regarding bases too? Condering that a communist is my northern neighbor after all....

Obviously - anyone (NATO members) who have a nearby commie neighbour will likely have an increased number of military personal and bases in there nation if wanted than in RL life - whereas people who don't but are allies with the US will likely have the same amount of troops as there are stationed there in RL.

Does this mean I'm in now? If so I'll get started on my factbook

Not officially, however I'm sure H-Town will accept you so you might as well start. It may sound stupid to ask, but your NATO right? ;)

Japan still has American troops in its borders, to this day. And to this day Japan does not have an offensive military branch.

Give it up with the vids, people...save it for the IC.

true

Japan still has American troops in its borders, to this day. And to this day Japan does not have an offensive military branch.

True, but Japan is the fifth-largest spender on military (still an inordinately small amount, compared to its 2nd-ranked GDP), and I plan to nix Article 9 in the Constitution as soon as we get going.

If America wants its bases in Japan, they can show friendliness. If they'd rather not be nice, than they can kiss Yokota, Yokosuka, Zama, and all the rest of 'em good-bye. Japan is going to be very wary of Chinese sentiment in this RP (hence, why I'm starting China on my diplomacy bar as the only nation that is not Neutral or above-I have them at condition Orange, "Wary")

True, but Japan is the fifth-largest spender on military (still an inordinately small amount, compared to its 2nd-ranked GDP), and I plan to nix Article 9 in the Constitution as soon as we get going.

If America wants its bases in Japan, they can show friendliness. If they'd rather not be nice, than they can kiss Yokota, Yokosuka, Zama, and all the rest of 'em good-bye. Japan is going to be very wary of Chinese sentiment in this RP (hence, why I'm starting China on my diplomacy bar as the only nation that is not Neutral or above-I have them at condition Orange, "Wary")

America is too tired to be friendly now, but will be soon. ;)

Lol...

Japanese Factbook/Diplomacy Thread now open for diplomacy, economics, whatever else you'd like to do there.

China: Sorry, but our two nations have never really liked each other much, hence why you're starting out Orange (doubly so because China's been really unstable and chaotic).

You forgot my country :'(

Well the French Factbook is also open for Diplomacy.

Here's my factbook's link. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528200)

You forgot my country :'(

My bad, I'll add it to the neutrals list.

Here's the link to my factbook thing. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528191)

I should probably add Diplomacy...

Anyone here believe me writing up a war game (It'll be me vs. me, and only 1 post.) with Honduras and winning would be too early? I repeat, a war GAME. But it would bring us to an international twilight. Finally, some competition in Central America, know what I mean? Anyways, I believe Honduras is Communist, so it would be a nice little... show.

May I join as the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya? I'd be on Warsaw Pact, of course.

AB, irl Japan uses Apache helicopters not Cobras. They phased out their cobras around 2000.
Doesn't really matter, just something I remembered.

Dang. Wikipedia lied to me.

I'll keep 'em around, just in case I need 'em (I mean, I doubt they were all scrapped...)

Terre: I don't think anyone would really have a problem with a war game, though I might wait for H-Town.


FYI to all: I may start up a Sales and Economy Thread soon (I did that in ESS too, to much effect) for sales of military ware, oil, agriculture, and whatever else

May I join as the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya? I'd be on Warsaw Pact, of course.

Libya, nice.

If I were you, I'd go for Australia, Egypt, or Algiera (three of the stronger nations left), but your choice.

The Glorious state of South Africa is open for diplomacy.

Libya, nice.

If I were you, I'd go for Australia, Egypt, or Algiera (three of the stronger nations left), but your choice.

I picked them for a reason (That being that they are one of three other nations in the world to posess T-90s and some of the better Russian aircraft like MiG-29's and MiG-31's).

I picked them for a reason (That being that they are one of three other nations in the world to posess T-90s and some of the better Russian aircraft like MiG-29's and MiG-31's).

Ah, a good reason, I suppose.

Although, India hasn't been claimed and has the first-rate Arjun tank...and a bunch of other nice goodies.

Though Libya's cool (of course, H-Town will come around eventually...)

FDR for me. Im pretty much going to keep the history the same.

If I may tentatively claim India or failing that due to the sprawl, Pakistan. If those are taken I think I just shuffle out of the main screen and go with Thailand. Preference is in order but I would be quite content with whatever I am assigned.

If I may tentatively claim India or failing that due to the sprawl, Pakistan. If those are taken I think I just shuffle out of the main screen and go with Thailand. Preference is in order but I would be quite content with whatever I am assigned.

India's still avaliable. Have to wait for H-Town, but I think he'll go with it.

May I play as the Commonwealth of Australia on the side of NATO, please?

If not the Aussies, Switzerland!

Also, is this RP as if the Cold War was going on today?

May I play as the Commonwealth of Australia on the side of NATO, please?

If not the Aussies, Switzerland!

Also, is this RP as if the Cold War was going on today?

Yeah, it's the Cold War existing into 2007.

A little reminder for you H-Town, the United Kingdom of South Korea is now in the NATO alliance, just so you can update it.

To the people playing the USSR and Britain. No offence guys, just trying to play like how I think my alternate nation would. We've got a propaganda machine that's been blaming everything on the nation where "the oppressors" came from, and the commies. I have nothing against you of course, just had to pick a group to hate. ;)

I picked them for a reason (That being that they are one of three other nations in the world to posess T-90s and some of the better Russian aircraft like MiG-29's and MiG-31's).


Oh don't worry, you'll be getting plenty more of those if you stay loyal to the Warsaw Pact. ;)

And Free shepmagans, no offense taken. :p

Someone post in my factbook/diplomacy thread >.<. I have Central America's oil :-p.

I learned in Earth never to make offers of embassies to others-I always wait for others to ask me. That way, I can still be belligerent to some nations and claim "well, you never wanted diplomatic relations"

So if you want relations, Terre, you can request in mine and link me to yours, and I'll post in yours with my answer...

AB, let's just assume all went well and the Pact is signed, to avoid trivial RPing.

And Terre, I'm the USSR, I don't need anymore oil. :p

I learned in Earth never to make offers of embassies to others-I always wait for others to ask me. That way, I can still be belligerent to some nations and claim "well, you never wanted diplomatic relations"

So if you want relations, Terre, you can request in mine and link me to yours, and I'll post in yours with my answer...

Good point, but I don't really want economic trade with a nation so far away. Takes a while to receive profits, and takes money to defend them for so long...

Ah well, how about you critique my history?

Am I approved?

and is there already an IC thread?

No IC thread yet...but if H-Town would be ok with it, I'd like to start an IC thread tomorrow (we've advanced far quicker than ESS did, and I think, with enough nations, we can start with basic diplomatic stuff). It wouldn't be war or anything, just NHK news saying "Here's what's going on" and maybe some recap of Japanese Baseball.

No IC thread yet...but if H-Town would be ok with it, I'd like to start an IC thread tomorrow (we've advanced far quicker than ESS did, and I think, with enough nations, we can start with basic diplomatic stuff). It wouldn't be war or anything, just NHK news saying "Here's what's going on" and maybe some recap of Japanese Baseball.

I think that's good like right now, seeing as it's just trivial RP, nothing truly serious. So what does everyone think of my 194 Billion wielding Nicaragua? Can you say high tax rate! Mawhaha!:D

You better hope Ethanol becomes a valuable commodity :P (Though I may have Japanese investors come for it eventually to break OPEC's cartel)

You better hope Ethanol becomes a valuable commodity :P (Though I may have Japanese investors come for it eventually to break OPEC's cartel)

Oh, I'm not selling Ethonal, I'm selling Oil.

Damn! I missed the start of this and can't take West Germany! I h8 U!!! Lolz. Umm, since you already took the nations that I want, do you think I could do this:

Pretty much I want to claim the North Pole, Iceland, and Greenland. My alternate history will be that when the North Pole was discovered, a primitive human race whose language consisted of weird clucks. The explorers quickly took advantage of this cheap manpower, creating munitions, firearms, planes, ships, and vehicle factories in the North Pole. Over time, this race began to assimilate, learning how to speak English, Spanish, French, Russian, and German. Eventually, a leader emerged. He urged his people to throw off the yoke of oppression that was holding them down, so they seized the weapons that they had created and turned them on their masters. Due to their years of enslavement, these people know how to create some of the best technology available today. Due to the climate that they lived in for so long, they can stand outside naked in -23 degree Fahrenheit weather and not feel chilled. This allows them to cover great distances of icy terrain impassible to many modern armies. After throwing off their oppressors, the race organized under a true democracy, where every man had a vote. They held a deep hatred for their former oppressors, and wished to even the score. They demonstrated this when they invaded Greenland. They moved quickly across the barren landscape, killing all the opposing soldiers with few casualties. However, as they moved closer to the cities, the fighting grew tougher. With no schooling in warfare, casualties mounted. This also helped them, though, as they developed new schools of thought in the military arena, deriving new tactics to defeat the foe. As time progressed, casualties continued decreasing. Finally, all Greenland stood under the rule of this civilization. They then moved on to Iceland. After having been through combat once, the second time was much easier. They positioned carrier groups off the coast and continually bombarded economic, military, and industrial installations. Eventually, an amphibious landing crushed the morale of the defenders.

I'll understand if you say no. Its only an Idea... But if no, could you reccomend me some of the available nations?

You could play Italy or Spain or Iran or Brazil...

Italy's taken.

We badly need an India...or an Egypt...or Argentina or Brazil. Those are the four biggest left.

Canuckastans Factbook is up and ready!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528221

lol jokes aside this is going to be intresting. Seeing as how Canada had good relations with both NATO (being a member duh) and communist countries like Cuba (seeing as how Fidel and Trudeau were buddies, Fidel was even an honorary pall bearer for his funeral) and the People Republic of China.

Are we allowed to take more than one country? I will take Egypt if my idea is rejected, but I would take some surrounding nations as well if possible.

I would love to take Democratic Republic of Congo.

Are we allowed to take more than one country? I will take Egypt if my idea is rejected, but I would take some surrounding nations as well if possible.

I wish, as I woulda taken Taiwan as well.

However, it's just one-besides, the good surrounding nations of Egypt (Libya, Israel) are already taken, too.

OK, well I am my idea 1st, Egypt 2nd. But Egypt is claimed.

Mawhaha, the crazy diplomatics of the Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua has begun!

Ill take Iran. I think a bit of alternating History is in order here...

Actually, Kamp: Want a Germanic Nation not taken? Grab Austria. It's actually pretty strong even in the modern day, and you could still pick a side (NATO or Warsaw).

Or take Sweden, a nice choice for military assets.

Mawhaha, the crazy diplomatics of the Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua has begun!

z0mg it teh fascists!!!! :eek:

Mawhaha, the crazy diplomatics of the Fascist Reformed State of Nicaragua has begun!

Dude that laugh is getting old.....Mawhaha...:D

That's because no one in real life says "OMFG HAXORZ LOL!!!!1111eleven" :D

Aaaand nobody says this!Corbournne;12703931']z0mg it teh fascists!!!! :eek:

Oh, wait, Sweeden is available? I am so taking that! Technically, they can support nukes... AB, what nation are you?

Oh, wait, Sweeden is available? I am so taking that! Technically, they can support nukes... AB, what nation are you?

He be Japan.

Corbournne;12703931']z0mg it teh fascists!!!! :eek:

You know you love us. ;)

Corbournne;12703954']He be Japan.

si!

'Cause I didn't want two different Americas (besides the fact it was already taken), and Japan is almost always my second choice.

Corbournne;12703946']Aaaand nobody says this!

I've said that before in real life. It was fun.

OK, well sweeden will be NATO, and blah.. Maybe the USSR will make the mistake of invading me... :D

I've said that before in real life. It was fun.

You're joking, right? :p

And nice second choice, AB, since they were my first in ESS.

And Kampf, don't worry, I won't mess with you unless you mess with me, the PRC, DPRK, Vietnam, Mexico, Cuba, or France. :D

Gotta go update my diplomacy chart again for another new nation...

If anyone needs to see all the nation, they're all in my diplomacy meter (even Iran, Israel, and all the recent ones)

Corbournne;12703986']You're joking, right? :p

And nice second choice, AB, since they were my first in ESS.

And Kampf, don't worry, I won't mess with you unless you mess with me, the PRC, DPRK, Vietnam, Mexico, Cuba, or France. :D

Wait. France??? WTF?

Wait. France??? WTF?

France went all Warsaw on us (going MEDIEVAL on yo' ass...oh yes :P)

However, despite messing with the PRC generating Russian angry-ness, politically bad-mouthing wierd Chinese moves makes Japanese happiness...

Sweden will go crazy on Russias ass- just you wait. My Gripens, Visby corvettes and Gotland subs, and AT-4s will own all comers...

Sweden will go crazy on Russias ass- just you wait. My Gripens, Visby corvettes and Gotland subs, and AT-4s will own all comers...

Uhm. Sure.

Sweden will go crazy on Russias ass- just you wait. My Gripens, Visby corvettes and Gotland subs, and AT-4s will own all comers...

I might need to buy some of your stuff, as Mitsubishi F-2s and F-15s won't do forever.

Plus, Japan lacks AT-4s, which I consider integral...

Got plenty of subs and ships, so all I need there is a carrier (Anyone?)

I'll take Norway, and I'll join NATO.

I might need to buy some of your stuff, as Mitsubishi F-2s and F-15s won't do forever.

Plus, Japan lacks AT-4s, which I consider integral...

Got plenty of subs and ships, so all I need there is a carrier (Anyone?)

While we couldn't sell, as we only have the Admiral Kuznetsov, our flagship, we could build a similiar ski-jump heavy cruiser one 'for ya.

Yeah, I think Sweden needs a carrier too...

Actually, I believe France has what I'm looking for (unless the USA would be willing to part with one of it's decomms...). France has a carrier in drydock, the Clemenceau, awaiting Decom...but it's still in fine condition and can host 40 aircraft. Should work fine for me (assuming France is looking to make some money, and not just looking for scrap metal).

You think it would be cool if I went ahead and started a thread for Australia?

Put up a factbook, yeah. Then you can get Japanese goods.

Yeah, I think Sweden needs a carrier too...

Although carriers don't really fit my rep. Sweden in my eyes is more of one of those get in and get out countries- Thus the emphasis on stealth. Oh, and I get Leopard 2(S)s. I forgot to mention those. Yeah, my navy will rely on stealth- just zing around everywhere, sink a few ships, etc. But my air force will be the heavy lifter. And my army won't be too shabby either.

Although carriers don't really fit my rep. Sweden in my eyes is more of one of those get in and get out countries- Thus the emphasis on stealth. Oh, and I get Leopard 2(S)s. I forgot to mention those. Yeah, my navy will rely on stealth- just zing around everywhere, sink a few ships, etc. But my air force will be the heavy lifter. And my army won't be too shabby either.

Good, one less competitor to take the carriers :P

Seriously, the Japanese government has plenty of money to spare for military funds...time to use it.