NationStates Jolt Archive

The RSFSR is going to retake the two smaller breakaway states of Gashgalbarash(?) and the other one with the islands whose name escapes me at the moment.

Let me know when you start RPing this?

Here's a map of Siberia that I feel is representative of the current land possessions there: [see attachment...]

Heh.... can't I get a bit of the Siberian Federal district? Krasnoyarsk Krai, and Kemerovo Oblast? :D

BTW I'll try to get on to the conference tonight, sorry for the delay.

I have decided to divide my military stats, in particular because it has grown too large for just one post. And because it seems that there is a text limit on how much goes into one post.

So I have finished my naval stats for the most part [and I consider it the most done of my military stats], so I would appreciate any critique that anyone may have. I shall venture to begin my air force stats sometime soon and resolve my army stats as well [mostly dealing with equipment]

Alright, which one of my European neighbors wants to start a war to get some activity going?

.... Wow I thought claims were supposed to be reasonable. I didn't see a key as to what is available (All colors are, of course, but not sure if the map has been updated lately)

Alright, which one of my European neighbors wants to start a war to get some activity going?

I think we are waiting for Candistan?

.... Wow I thought claims were supposed to be reasonable. I didn't see a key as to what is available (All colors are, of course, but not sure if the map has been updated lately)

I think its the grayed out ones.

hmm... activity is seemingly decreasing... do we need a war to spur up activity?

I think we are waiting for Candistan?

Yeah, Russia does seem the most likely candidate, especially given his announcement about retaking all former Russian lands.

I'd like to Claim : -
Algeria
Niger
Chad
Central African Republic
Congo

and be called the Federation of Animarnia If I can?

Do we use our NS Pops and Economies?

I'd like to Claim : -
Algeria
Niger
Chad
Central African Republic
Congo

and be called the Federation of Animarnia If I can?

Do we use our NS Pops and Economies?

Algeria's being invaded right now, IIRC. You'll have to fight for it. The rest you can have, though.

And we're using the RL pops and economies.

Algeria's being invaded right now, IIRC. You'll have to fight for it. The rest you can have, though.

And we're using the RL pops and economies.

Ok; So would I be right in saying that I add the Economies together to form one unified Economy for my claim so it is in effect ONE Country?

Also what other restrictions are inplace?

Ok; So would I be right in saying that I add the Economies together to form one unified Economy for my claim so it is in effect ONE Country?

Correct.

Also what other restrictions are inplace?

You're limited to modern-tech technology (i.e., no future tech stuff). That's about it, though.

Correct.



You're limited to modern-tech technology (i.e., no future tech stuff). That's about it, though.

PMT? up to say 2015-2020 ish? or is it purely MT?

(is Compiling a factbook)

I'm still trying to figure out where to get economic stats for my nations. I looked at the CIA factbook and am putting that shizzle together.

Purely MT.

And Shazbotdom, the CIA factbook is where I got the stats for my economy, too.

Might I suggest posting all availiable countries that can be claimed?

I'd personally offer some help for people who are have trouble looking for information, but I've been busy setting up my ORBAT. It's freaking harsh with all of the equipment that I want to have displayed, but I want my military capacities at least OOC known. It isn't easy to get a country set up RL or otherwise.


And I agree with Carloginias, because I'm personally confused as to who is currently here and available to being bothered with diplomacy - especially my southern neighbor, who was supposed to launch missiles and ships in nearby waters.

maybe it's time we had a background check - to see who's actually here at the moment and who's not...

OOC:
I'm here. I'm just tryin to compile all my information together for my factbook. Then all I need to do is write it all up. That and i'll have to redo my military numbers for the new factbook. So yeah, that and with my work schedual and trying to start up a business, it might take a short time longer for me to get myself fully situated. But by the looks of it right now it looks like my population will be around 12.1 Million and i'm going to divert about 1.5% of that into my military.

I am here, sort of, but kinda busy until about tomorrow, which makes the point rather irrelevant. Anyway, I agree we need to know who's still in on this... I've expecting an Russian invasion for about 2 weeks :D

yea...I think this is kinda dead...the founder isnt even here anymore.

I'm here, dead as this thing may be.

Quite honestly this has some major potential, and the claims aren't reall all that bad. (I will admit, there are some HORRENDOUS claims, most notably the dude who controls the most highly developed region in the world. (W.E)) :/ If you want to restart and the like, I will join up.

Three cheers for ruling Western Europe! Oh, am I the only one?

Seriously, though, I haven't been that active in this Earth, so I'm placing my claims up for grabs.

If this is going to work then the whole thing needs to be sorts restructured.

Suggestions?

I think we ought to do away with players that are grossly inactive. As in, those who hasn't posted at all since staking claims. Then, try to find more people to take the vacant lands and hope they can invigorate things a little.

I will stick with another earth as long as people stay active. Part of the reason I didnt really do much as the RSFSR is that the people who I traded with, and was going to go to war with, not including Kiwiland, pretty much sunk into inactivity.

LOL, I could've sworn they were just here to make mapping all that much harder.....

Anyway, has Congo--Kinshasa actually decided to drop this? I see a few posts last page.

I'm still up for picking a fight with someone to bring the activity level up a bit. Unfortunately the two most likely contestants (Eurasia and Russia) seem not to be up to it. Here I had planned out how I would RP an outbreak of smallpox in the Ukraine, accuse Russia of being the culprit, and attacking them. If we do restart I intend to make very similar claims and go on the warpath in Europe, just a little FYI there for you.

It's probably my "China" curse - every RP that I've ever done falls apart shortly after I claim China, but I like to think that it's to no fault of my own. Besides, I have every incentive to keep this RP going, since I've already spent the past weeks practically overhauling a nice factbook thread - if this thing goes, I'll lament to let it go into oblivion...

But nonetheless, we have quite a few people here still - it's just a matter of making things happen...

Seriously, though, I haven't been that active in this Earth, so I'm placing my claims up for grabs.
I've been busy as h*ll the last week, but I'm sort of back now.

I was thinking of if I'm allowed to change my claim for this earth? I don't know how many times I've tried to RP as the nordic countries, but the action is *always* somewhere else. No wonder RL Sweden hasn't been to war for about 250 years...

Now when BL is withdrawing from this earth, is it possible for me to change my claims to Spain and Portugal instead? If that's the case, I promise to participate to bring action into this earth...

I withdraw from this rp and free up my land claims(Saudi Arabia and Oman).

Can I have a war to Anex the Dem Rep of congo for its Diamond mines? which could spark off a bigger comflict maybe with Amazonion Beasts ?

Where's the founder?

i don't know...

if the founder has abandoned us, we might just restart the RP with the same set-up, so it can continue...

Can I have a war to Anex the Dem Rep of congo for its Diamond mines? which could spark off a bigger comflict maybe with Amazonion Beasts ?

it's your war - do as you please :D

it's your war - do as you please :D

Aye :D but I like to make sure all participants are up for it before posting and given that one of them is our founder its best to check.

Can I have a war to Anex the Dem Rep of congo for its Diamond mines? which could spark off a bigger comflict maybe with Amazonion Beasts ?

If you'd seriously want to fight my nation...

Blood Guts; all that good stuff? a good war might be nice and w share a common border I think? though its up to you if you want to get involved in our...Liberation of the Congo Diamond mines..

Due to certain personal and unrelated factors, I will be resigning as administrator of this Earth. Anyone want to take over?

(And even though I'm resigning, I will still happily RP with anyone who still wants to RP with me.)

Due to certain personal and unrelated factors, I will be resigning as administrator of this Earth. Anyone want to take over?

(And even though I'm resigning, I will still happily RP with anyone who still wants to RP with me.)

Up for a war? since your my southen neighbour I figured I'd ask for some targets along your border for Arty and Air Strikes?

I volunteer to take over Admin duties on this RP, assuming I get.... four people to second my decision and nobody has any major problems with it. I've moderated two World War's back when they were still big and I won't be breaking balls left and right about tech rights, etc. I will stick to all the same rules that we are already using, the only thing that will change is that I will start a new thread. All old claims will be granted however they won't be automatic, a player will have to post asking to have their old claims recognized. If I can get enough people to support me, since I don't want to be seen as leading a coup against Congo, I will make a new post, try and TG all the members of this current Earth, and give all the current members 48 hours to reclaim their nations, for those who do reclaim we can either continue on like nothing happened or they can restart their RP.

You have my vote, West Pacific.
If you restart this, I would love to participate as Portugal-Spain if that's possible (as Eurasia withdraw from this earth).

And Congo--Kinshasa, I hope you follow us to the new thread!

I volunteer to take over Admin duties on this RP, assuming I get.... four people to second my decision and nobody has any major problems with it. I've moderated two World War's back when they were still big and I won't be breaking balls left and right about tech rights, etc. I will stick to all the same rules that we are already using, the only thing that will change is that I will start a new thread. All old claims will be granted however they won't be automatic, a player will have to post asking to have their old claims recognized. If I can get enough people to support me, since I don't want to be seen as leading a coup against Congo, I will make a new post, try and TG all the members of this current Earth, and give all the current members 48 hours to reclaim their nations, for those who do reclaim we can either continue on like nothing happened or they can restart their RP.

I'm glad that someone volunteered - because I'm rather busy, although I probably would have done the same if no one else took the gauntlet. Thanks for taking the role [a word of caution about using the word "admin"... NS mod guys don't like it...]. As for restarting, I've worked too hard on my country's stats to start over...

I was going to as administration but I was too lazy. :P

Word of Advice: If your going to redo Claims, which I hope you do, might I suggest breaking up the largest countries like China, America, and India into smaller portions. Anyone who claims all of China will get it's Huge Population and rapidly evolving Military. Same with India. America on the other hand doesn't have as large of a population but it response it has technology more advanced then most nations.

You might do this to Russia, but you don't have to since it's corrupt and it's economy is in a downward spiral.

I'm not going to break up the large countries because they still have their disadvantages, India has a population that is growing out of control, China's economy is much weaker than it appears (there's a reason their defense spending is 1/10th that of the United States) and China has to spend a lot of that money on supporting their people, as for the United States, well anyone who claims that country is probably going to be hated by 90% of the other countries anyways.

ooc:been very busy with school.. still am till wednesday.. if I don't sign up for more courses I'll have tons more time after this wednesday.

why restart it though? why not just start another earth style rp and let this one drag on .. I've just been very busy.. as this was my final week of classes.. now I have two exams coming up wednesday... but after that (depending on whehter I sign up for victory lap classes (as I'll have 6 credits more than I need to graduate after I get my nightschool class done.

what other players are unaccounted for right now


p.s. as far as what is going on check out my Latin American States fact book.. please post up any new developments.

I'm not going to break up the large countries because they still have their disadvantages, India has a population that is growing out of control, China's economy is much weaker than it appears (there's a reason their defense spending is 1/10th that of the United States) and China has to spend a lot of that money on supporting their people, as for the United States, well anyone who claims that country is probably going to be hated by 90% of the other countries anyways.

Aye, let them have their masses of land, as well as all the problems collected togethor from those nations.

As for the USA... my country was created specifically out of hatred for the USA and it's tyranical, non-representative government. Every candidate claims to lower taxes and decrease government spending, everyone votes for that, no elected official ever delivers on it. It's no grand conspiracy, it's merely a blatant and deliberate failure on the part of every elected official since the 1970s. How the leaders of a country can so openly hate and abuse the citizens of that country on a daily basis without reprise thus far is beyond comprehension.
In SYAE, the revolution took the form of a mass migration into the USA's pacific territories, as well as a unification of the polynesian islands under a stronger banner. The Incorporated States of Gauthic were formed.

As for why "restart" I will address that now. Congo (the person who start SYAE) is too busy to keep track of the happening on SYAE, so we need a new thread because this first post here is obsolete, second off Eurasia, Granate, Congo and the United States have all quit, that's a lot of land now available and a lot of RPing to replace. We won't techincally be restarting, I for one will choose the same countries and everything from SYAE so far will be part of the restart, I am sure China will keep his claims and old information as well as a couple other nations. The United States and Western Europe will be made open for claims, but don't expect to see anyone claiming all of Western Europe this time.

If you do make a new thread, make the name something a little easier to remember like Earth Amended or something so we can type it in just two letters. Oh and by the way, the RSFSR is still alive and kickin'.

SYAE's pretty cool :D

Err but yeah, sorry I've been away (as some of you might have seen from General forum my computer got wiped by Micr$oft, yes, I insist its M$ because a whole weekend of scanning reveals not a single defect on my hard drives.....).

So anyway, we won't be actually restarting right, just remaking the thread and freeing up the unoccupied land for claims? Oh and while we are at it, can West Pacific include some specific rules on what's allowed and what's not in the first post too?

EDIT: most of the other large countries have serious weaknesses.... but the USA is kinda VERY powerful. Shouldn't we limit claims from there to a few states? Carlifornia alone trumps a bunch of other states.

if you start breaking up countries it gets much harder to calculate economys. personally I'm all for when we claim land; thats it we just claim land, the population and the economy and how we use that is up to us. Yes countries with a larger pop would have a miltary advantage like in real life, but they'd also inherit a huge amount of logistic nightmare if they're planning on operating a 23 million man army (I just pulled that out of the air). besides with people claiming 3-4 counties at a time it balances out the pop and economys of states like china and the US. Speaking of Claims; I'd say its a good idea to put a 4 country Cap on claims and if your claiming countrys like China or the US then say that plus 2 other claims allowed max.

as for Military, I recomend something like 0.1-3% Max in peace time and up to 10% in times of war allowed for the total armed forces (you decide how its split between your branches)

As for Tech, I'd Recomend starting off with strict RL but as time progresses give nations the chance to develop there own technolgy but keep with the area of belivibility etc so no Super light powerful mecha in 2012.

Edit: I'd also like to see more trade; every nation has its own natural resources and industries. for examples Animarnia can export a lot of Uranium, Oil, Coal, and Iron. though we have a seriously lack of water so thats something we'd have to trade for.

Well, claiming China plus a few other countries is fine by me. But claiming one US seems too much already. The difference is that the US is an economic giant, a military superpower, and technologically the most advanced nation on earth, while China's only real 'strength' is a large population....

It's not so much the number of countries that people claim, but the actual RL strengths of those countries. i.e. Iceland + Fiji + Cook Island + Bahamas < Germany.

Also, I don't think its hard to find individual economic stats for U.S. states....

For the moment I agree we should limit tech strictly to what is avaliable to the claimed countries, in RL.

I'm firmly against splitting any country [even Russia, but I had no say in that matter, so yeah...]. Besides, it's not so much that one has power, but more so what one does with it that counts. If the USA wants to parade throughout the world, they're going to find some staunch opposition from everyone.

Tech-wise, I'd agree though.

I think that we've still got quite a few people still interested, so we can consider starting a new thread and getting some people to fill the ranks of the departed. Hanseong Conference is still on-going I believe...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12346365#post12346365

There's the URL to the new SYAE thread, I retained the name SYAE because it is very easy to search for using the Jolt search engines because there are no words with the letters "syae" in it in that order.

I think you miss understood; what I am saying is no one inherts that countrys goverment; or mistakes and counteys are treated like new entitys in this earth and the technolgy limited to RL MT but only by the economic power of your NEW country.

For example; if you want F-22's fine; but if you got a weak economy you won't be having many of them as we know an F-22 costs around 90 million each. we know an M1A2 Costs around 4.2 milion and a T-90 costs around 2.2 million; so do you go with higher quality or more bang for your buck? I say it should be limited by your defence budget.

For example; take your economy; and split it between say, defence, healthcare, education, social equality, spirituality and law and order. now you give each area a percentage; of the budget and whatever you got for defence you have free reign to 'spend' as you wish...thats my opinion anyway.

Only 24 hours left for the old members of SYAE to re-claim their lands on the new SYAE thread located here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518536).