NationStates Jolt Archive

Precisely, the way this works Nicholas will be thought of by the RUssian people as the poor tragic old man, and it's really the royalty around him that are to blame. So an uprising against the royalty in this timeline, possible, against Nichalos, not as likely anymore. He'll probably just become a quite older man that listens more and more to the Duma, which will become more respondent. Revolution will become quieter. The huge explosion less. If it happens at all.

ok, just so everyone know, the Ottoman Empire was not allied to Germany or Austria or anyone in 1910 or 1911. In fact, Italy was kinda not really allied to anyone then either. It was unlikely as no one really liked the Ottomans anyways. But from what I hear this alliance is fact now, right?

I have no real problem witht that but if it is I want to know for sure that it is true and that it was rped - just tell me yes or no

On a side note - I don't think Britain would ever ally with Germany
I've RP a slight closeness between the Triple alliance and The Ottomans, but I've only RPed asking for any sort of alliance with austria. However, I am only asking for Austria's help, so yes it is RPed.

Titicus, yes it has been rped. As for an alliance between Britain and Germany; Haneastic is right. Besides, in something like 1905 Britain was considering an alliance with Germany but Germany made the mistake of asking for them to join the alliance with Ausria-Hungary instead of just one with Germany. Britain, unwilling obligate itself to go to war on behalf of Austria-Hungary, declined. After that Kaiser Wilhelm II continued to alienate almost every country on earth with his loud mouth:

"Sadly, for all his good intentions, Wilhelm frequently made serious personal blunders which strained Germany's diplomatic relations with other countries. The most notorious instance of this may be the Daily Telegraph Affair of 1908. When Wilhelm was offered an interview with the newspaper, he saw it as an opportunity to promote his views and ideas on Anglo-German friendship. Instead, due to his emotional outbursts during the course of the interview, Wilhelm ended up further alienating not only the British people, but also the French, Russians, and Japanese all in one fell swoop by implying, inter alia, that the Germans cared nothing for the British; that the French and Russians had attempted to instigate Germany to intervene in the Second Boer War; and that the German naval buildup was targeted against the Japanese, not Britain. (One memorable quote from the interview is "You English are mad, mad, mad as March hares.") Even his subjects shied away from his damaging comments. Quite understandably, the Emperor kept a very low profile for many months after the Daily Telegraph fiasco, and later exacted his revenge by enforcing the resignation of Prince Bülow, who was supposed to edit the transcript of the interview before its publication. Nevertheless, relations between the royal families of the two countries remained cordial enough that Wilhelm rode in the first rank of the royal procession at the funeral of Edward VII."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_II_of_Germany#1888-1914.E2.80.94Foreign_policy_and_the_road_to_war

And the Kaiser always tried to get Nicky on his side.

And the Kaiser always tried to get Nicky on his side.

And the Kaiser always tried to get Nicky on his side.

ok, just so everyone know, the Ottoman Empire was not allied to Germany or Austria or anyone in 1910 or 1911. In fact, Italy was kinda not really allied to anyone then either. It was unlikely as no one really liked the Ottomans anyways. But from what I hear this alliance is fact now, right?

Italy actually joined the Triple Alliance in 1882. The only reason it wasn't very close in RL is because Austria refused to give up the Italia irredenta and had a naval race with Italy, but in this timeline Austria and Italy have solved all that with a little agreement. The Ottoman Empire joined the Triple Alliance because of the threat of the Balkan nations (which Serbia supplied us with). They also took this alternative to dual-control Tripoli instead of waging war against Italy for it.

Thanks for the triple post Sukiaida :p

This Balkan thing is gonna get hot. *Muahahahahaha* perfect....

If it comes to war, Argentina will offer herself as a mediator for peace talks

The Ottomans are gonna own Serbia et al. With their training from Germany and whatnot.

and artillery from AH, a bigger population, better navy, etc.

What kind of artillery did you give them? The kind Germany used to take out Liege? That is some of the best artillery of the time, though admittedly it is not anti-personnel.

We should really work on getting a new U.S. player soon. I nominate one of my puppets... um, I mean one of the other nations that happens to be in the same region as my nation.

What kind of artillery did you give them? The kind Germany used to take out Liege? That is some of the best artillery of the time, though admittedly it is not anti-personnel.
can I purchase some of those??

Also, was the Germans arty in WWI better than the French?? (statistics wise)

Actually I think this war will turn out like the ones with the Middle East and Isreal. Lots of Arab troops, and one hard core group of Serbians holding out. Besides remember I said against Austria invading Serbia. What do you think Russia will do if the Ottomans invade Serbia? I am duty bound to throw the Ottomans out on their ear from Serbia. And as long as I don't invade the sick man of Europe myself then the rest of Europe won't be entirely tired of it.

The Ottomans don't want Serbia at all

Artillery: caliber is 77mm guns, however we do have other types such as 150mm and 210mm (the kind used in Liege). In Real Life, I believe France utilized "fast firing" 75 mm guns, and didn't have a lot of medium artillery, which proved to be a problem for them because German guns could sit back and blast away while 75's had to be much closer

Right now.

The Ottomans don't want Serbia at all

Artillery: caliber is 77mm guns, however we do have other types such as 150mm and 210mm (the kind used in Liege). In Real Life, I believe France utilized "fast firing" 75 mm guns, and didn't have a lot of medium artillery, which proved to be a problem for them because German guns could sit back and blast away while 75's had to be much closer
I got the 75mm ones, I need the other ones, the 150mm and the other heavy ones you mentioned. Anyone got the stats for them?

That reminds me, I gotta ask for more 75's for Russian armies. I need more artillery.

no stats that I can find at the moment, but If it's any reference, 150mm guns are the same as 6 inch guns on light cruisers (1inch=25mm)

Like 5 inchers? *Blinks*

Doesn't anybody want to buy the ships I keep offering? Although those pre-dreadnaughts are old ones they are still good enough to use for any nation. The only reason I am selling them is in order to make new ships I feel the need to keep my numbers low by selling old ones so I don't get on the bad side of Britain. IRL Germany used all three of the ships I just offered in World War One.

you could always just take the guns off them, and dismantle them to use their materials elsewere

Besides remember I said against Austria invading Serbia. What do you think Russia will do if the Ottomans invade Serbia? I am duty bound to throw the Ottomans out on their ear from Serbia. And as long as I don't invade the sick man of Europe myself then the rest of Europe won't be entirely tired of it.
How exactly would me attacking the serbs be a reason for you to declare war on me? I'm not the one starting a war with Serbia, Tictus is the one saying he wants to start the Balkan wars.

However, I'm going to invade Serbia if they declare war on me, otherwise it's not much of a war is it?

Also, I'd watch out because with my stronger military I could halt your shiping through the black sea. Not to mention that a full-scale war wont be helping you avoid a revolution, even with your changes.

Actually I think this war will turn out like the ones with the Middle East and Isreal. Lots of Arab troops, and one hard core group of Serbians holding out. Besides remember I said against Austria invading Serbia. What do you think Russia will do if the Ottomans invade Serbia? I am duty bound to throw the Ottomans out on their ear from Serbia. And as long as I don't invade the sick man of Europe myself then the rest of Europe won't be entirely tired of it.

Israel didn't exist until after RL WW-2.

Sharina, in this rp Israel already exists and rules Syria, Iraq, and Madagascar (the Germans went ahead with the Madacascar plan and sent 1.5 million Jews there.)



I am just kidding, Sukiaida was comparing what he thought this war would be like to the later historical wars between Israel and the Arab nations. Of course he is wrong... IRL Israel was the one with the technological advantage, in this rp the Ottomans have it. Speaking of which, Voxio, I still think it would be usefull for you to have some MG08's.

A Danish plantation company in the Hawaiian islands is trying to make good relations with the rebels against Queen Liliuokalani, and the Danish navy is on it's way to support an uprising by the rebels.

If the rebels overthrow the queen, Denmark plans to make Hawaii a royal Danish colony, Hawaii is free to elect their own governor if it turns in our favor.

(I'm trying to do what America did 5 years earlier, does someone want to RP this out and say what would happen? I'm starting to supply the rebels with modern Dutch weapons like the Krag-Jørgensen's and MG08's)

A Dutch plantation company in the Hawaiian islands is trying to make good relations with the rebels against Queen Liliuokalani, and the Dutch navy is on it's way to support an uprising by the rebels.

If the rebels overthrow the queen, Denmark plans to make Hawaii a royal Dutch colony, Hawaii is free to elect their own governor if it turns in our favor.

(I'm trying to do what America did 5 years earlier, does someone want to RP this out and say what would happen? I'm starting to supply the rebels with modern Dutch weapons like the Krag-Jørgensen's and MG08's)
Are u the Dutch? or Denmark?? I am so confused

Sorry, I just wrote an essay about the Dutch East India company and their impacts on the world, so I messed up a little. I got a little confused and I wrote Dutch on impulse because of it..

The Ottomans are gonna own Serbia et al. With their training from Germany and whatnot.

Are you joking? Germany never trained the Ottomans, they supplied them, but didn't train them. Ottoman general's are terrible too, most of the good officers and generals are gone out of the army because of the Young Turk movement. The Serbian army on the other hand has good weapons purchased from France, and their generals have been extesively trained by the Czar's army. Plus, Serbia's army is experienced and know how to fight off Turks, because they've been doing so for the past 700 years.

Are you joking? Germany never trained the Ottomans, they supplied them, but didn't train them.
In this timeline the Germans have sent leaders to help with the training of soldiers.

Are you joking? Germany never trained the Ottomans, they supplied them, but didn't train them. Ottoman general's are terrible too, most of the good officers and generals are gone out of the army because of the Young Turk movement. The Serbian army on the other hand has good weapons purchased from France, and their generals have been extesively trained by the Czar's army. Plus, Serbia's army is experienced and know how to fight off Turks, because they've been doing so for the past 700 years.

Liman von Sanders was with the Ottoman army and Kemal was a rather good general in RL, and I'm sure that Germany is helping them now, plus my addition of artillery

Why compare this war to the Arabs a Israel? Why not compare it to the REAL LIFE balkans wars in which the Balkan Alliance won handily. The only reason they didn't take Constantinople was that they squabbled amongst each other.

Serbian troops in particular are better trained and equipped than the Ottomans.
Even if the Germans have been helping and equipping the Ottomans for the last year it shouldn't be enough to change anything.

Just saying

Yeah whatever.

LOL :D

Just to remind everyone, NPC nations are RPed by mods or other volunteers who are neutral in a war or other RP.

Are we gonna have a depression?? Like in RL??

so are you saying I can't rp the nations of Bulgaria, Greece, in my alliance? Or can I just do it

Having a depression would be boring. And if Titicus can't rp his alliance you should let me do it... there is no reason a player in control of a nation allied with one of the belligerents can't be impartial... come to think of it, why don't you just give me control of all nations that are currently NPC. In all seriousness though, Titicus should be allowed to rp those nations to a point. That is, if one of the nations is losing badly then a mod can take over in deciding whether or not they should surrender, as obviously Titicus would be biased towards not having them do so.

Having a depression would be boring..
What about an influenza epidemic?

Having a depression would be boring. And if Titicus can't rp his alliance you should let me do it... there is no reason a player in control of a nation allied with one of the belligerents can't be impartial... come to think of it, why don't you just give me control of all nations that are currently NPC. In all seriousness though, Titicus should be allowed to rp those nations to a point. That is, if one of the nations is losing badly then a mod can take over in deciding whether or not they should surrender, as obviously Titicus would be biased towards not having them do so.

Actually the Great Depression could be quite interesting to roleplay. Half the nations of the world severely weakened, international trade collapsing, governments on the brink of collapsing... it would allow 3rd world nations to become more powerful (due to their secluded nations) and many colonies to gain their independence (since the empires would be weak).

As for the Balkan Wars, Titicus should get a say in what his allies would do but an NPC mod should roleplay them. After all, each nation could have different motives and some would probably say "screw this alliance" and sign a cease-fire as soon as they see other nations get clobbered. In otherwords, an NPC mod would allow the nations to play like real independent nations instead of puppets of Serbia.

Ok, but Germany bans the ability of banks to loan money they don't have. Upon taking in money they have to make an agreement that the customer won't take it out for a certain amount of time in order to have anything to loan. This will eliminate the problem of bank runs as the banks can always back everything up.

What about an influenza epidemic?

Spanish Flu anyone?:cool:

Ok, Elite Battle Hordes, you're now officially the NPC mod *hands insignia*

Spanish Flu anyone?:cool:

Ok, Elite Battle Hordes, you're now officially the NPC mod *hands insignia*
That be great, having millions people die. Well, it would not be great, it be interesting

If trench warfare is still going on in 1918 then I agree it should happen. If everything goes according to plan though, the central powers will rule most of mainland Europe by that time.

Oh, and I just had Cuba declare war on the United States for no particular reason.

Oh, and I just had Cuba declare war on the United States for no particular reason.

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riiight

ok elite, you are needed in the Balkans, go for it

Why compare this war to the Arabs a Israel? Why not compare it to the REAL LIFE balkans wars in which the Balkan Alliance won handily. The only reason they didn't take Constantinople was that they squabbled amongst each other.

Serbian troops in particular are better trained and equipped than the Ottomans.
Even if the Germans have been helping and equipping the Ottomans for the last year it shouldn't be enough to change anything.

Just saying

Couldn't be more true... :D

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A depression would be interesting only as far as we have what caused it in process. A less dependent world on US trade would have endede in a smaller blurb. Without a grand war that makes them dependent then the depression becomes just another small depression like the millions before it.

ANd uhh yeah whatever.

Ok can I ask everyone to stop posting their little arguments in my factbook. It's getting on my damn nerves. I am not changing a thing, and the more you bother me the more I am inclined to just leave entirely cause I keep getting bothered. Now leave me alone.

Russia's population in 1912 was about 88,402,000...or so thats the registered number

Interesting, where did you get that? Are there other population numbers in your source?

You know what, that's it. Have someopne else play RUssia. THese arguments have gone on far enough. I quit. THat's it. I am done. Bye

You know what, that's it. Have someopne else play RUssia. THese arguments have gone on far enough. I quit. THat's it. I am done. Bye

Dude, why? I just asked where he got them (because I'm interested in other nations population as well) and I just posted a question. You requested (which is your right) to stop this clogging of your thread, so I deleted that specific post and reposted it in the ooc thread? What's wrong with that?

Please don't leave, we need you!

You know what, that's it. Have someopne else play RUssia. THese arguments have gone on far enough. I quit. THat's it. I am done. Bye
dude, dont leave, we need you

stay, Russia is important, all we want is to clarify. Warta, the link to the population site can be found in the Russian factbook, disregard the first column of dates

The problem with that site is that it lists the population of the territory that is now Russia as it was during that time. It does not include Finland, Poland, the Ukraine, etc. See Sukiaida, problem solved.

The problem with that site is that it lists the population of the territory that is now Russia as it was during that time. It does not include Finland, Poland, the Ukraine, etc. See Sukiaida, problem solved.
woohoo!

Grumble... I suppose I should stay. At least a few of ya want me here. It's just no more population complaints. It's all RUssia has and it's real annoying to keep having people try and take a huge chunk of it away.

SO I guess I'll stay....

Hey everyone, the Stockholm Olympics are this summer. The Berlin Olympics are scheduled for 1916, but I like in RL, I don't see them happening. I guess I will have to wait until 1936 to host them. Then I will make all your athletes salute the Fuhrer! That is, of course, if I lost the war so Hitler could rise to power. I would rather win and instead have him get captured, sodomized, and then shot by French soldiers right before my victory. Anyway, enough rambling; the Stockholm 1912 Olympics, woooo!

So Russia will send it's atheletes then I suppose.

I'll send a lot, for all the different nationalities

Argentina will send it's finest

Count Italy in. (Maybe we'll do better than in RL :( )

Why? How did they do in the 1912 Olympics?

The Italians took home ZERO medals (while my neighbors each took home a truckload).

OOH that smarts.

Noone notices my rampage through Bolivia and Paraguay

Why? I'm in Europe and Asia, what happens in America is the United States concern.

And they arent here!!!

*continues to rampage*

No I suppose they aren't.

Noone notices my rampage through Bolivia and Paraguay

Oh, I think Italy's noticed it. ;)

http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0114420.html

For some reason Hungary is listed by itself.

Technically I am supposed to be in semi control of the nations he is attacking and the United States. I am his ally though, and don't know how fair it is for me to decide the actions of any of these nations. If no one has any objections I will make an unrealistic but hopefully reasonable decision for the United States. Afterwards I will proceed to lose the war for Bolivia and Paraguay. (It is not that I won't try to win, it is just that he has the advantage.)

You might need to roleplay Liberia as well. It has about a one-in-a-million chance of defeating Italy. Even with the small invasion force I just sent, I still caught them off-guard and have their capital surrounded on both land and sea. That, and I could probably turn the natives against them (the Liberians pulled the good old "if we want the land, just kick the natives off it").

If no one has any objections I will. You will have to get me information on the Liberian forces and geography though.

Course with so many forces abroad I might question Italy's preparations against other countries. I mean what if France desired to invade through the Italian back door. Italy might outreach it's grasp if its not careful.

Oh please. If France invaded Italy Germany would be on them so fast they wouldn't know what hit them. I don't think France is stupid enough to give Germany a casus belli.

Oh please. If France invaded Italy Germany would be on them so fast they wouldn't know what hit them. I don't think France is stupid enough to give Germany a casus belli.

And France doesn't seem to be active a lot...

Glad to see you changed your mind Sukiada! RPing Japan wouldn't be so interesting :p

And Fran, can you make a new thread for your South American war? And we really need a US!!!

Yeah, we have to make sure France is active when war breaks out.

Oh please. If France invaded Italy Germany would be on them so fast they wouldn't know what hit them. I don't think France is stupid enough to give Germany a casus belli.

Actually Italy signed a secret treaty with France not to invade each other each other if war broke out in 1902.

I would be more than glad to fill in for the USA. I will be on every day this and next week guarunteed, but after that, I am unsure. If no one minds, just fill me on the events conserning the US of A from start till today, and what it is involved in now. Oh, and the ruling government status.

I would be more than glad to fill in for the USA. I will be on every day this and next week guarunteed, but after that, I am unsure. If no one minds, just fill me on the events conserning the US of A from start till today, and what it is involved in now. Oh, and the ruling government status.
The USA did not really do anything of importance, cuz he was only on for a bit

HMMM well all I am that Italy can find so many ways of getting screwed if it decides to go forward in international affairs.

No matter what anyone does they have a chance of getting screwed. Luxumburg didn't, couldn't, do anything in WWII, but they got attacked anyway.

No matter what anyone does they have a chance of getting screwed. Luxumburg didn't, couldn't, do anything in WWII, but they got attacked anyway.
Pfft, Luxumburg was lulling Germany into a false sense of security, The Red Army wasent Soviet, it was owned by Luxumburg

Exactly. That is why it is best to take a proactive stance. Like Germany in RL and Koryan here.

HMM proactive. I see I see.

C'mon Koryan, tell them how Liberia has WMD's.

Hello, I have created a Siamese Factbook, and I hope to start RPing as... you guessed it... Siam. The link is below, ill beging RP'ing as soon as I get an ok. Thanks in advance.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10700921#post10700921

C'mon Koryan, tell them how Liberia has WMD's.

It is our believe that Liberia has been building weapons of mass destruction... and funding terrorists... and they slept with the Russian leader's wife... :D

and they slept with the Russian leader's wife...

Before or after she committed suicide?


Welcome Kroando, I'm sure Warta will confirm you as soon as he logs on next.

I am going to need somebody to help me out with the rping of the Balkans war with Bulgaria and Greece (nobody really cares about Montenegro)

or else voxio would leave and we don't want that, do we

I suggest Warta Endor and Franberry for the rping of Greece and Bulgaria.

Warta Endor and Franberry are the only two who both are neutral and log on often enough. Well, WE isn't totally neutral... or even close to neutral really, but at least he isn't supplying the Ottomans like the central powers are. Franberry is totally neutral though. Sure, he is allied with Germany, but he is also allied with France. He has no reason to want one side to win over the other.

Course as RUssia I might just invade him in my own right. HEHEHEHEHE!!

And that's nice. Now I need to make sure to kill Italy. Sink it's fleet and invade it from the south. YES!!! Like the AMericans did.

considering the state of your fleet, and the distance you would have to transport all those men, that would be the most costly naval invasion ever.
I can see it now: Russia annexes Italy; 50 trillion Russians dead.

You are right. I need to beef up my Baltic fleet before I do that. And that'll take time. Sigh time time time, what I need more of and have not.

Seeing as this RP is pretty well underway, would anyone mind giving me a brief summary of what exactly is going on? Basic political situation... any wars that might be going on, that sort of thing... thanks.

Well, let's see. Serbia has declared war on the Ottoman empire. Whether or not the other Balkan nations will join is a matter yet to be decided. (We need someone to rp Bulgaria or Greece.) Argentina is at war with Uraguay, Paraguay, and Bolivia. Italy resolved its issues with Austria-Hungary. Japan is allied with China, and both seem to have good relations with the central powers (Japan is actually allied with Germany.) Britain seems to want to be neutral in any war that might happen between the central powers and the rest of Europe. Denmark seems to be cozying up with France and Russia. As far as the United States goes; nothing really has happened.

If anyone has anything else to add to that, go ahead.

Well, let's see. Serbia has declared war on the Ottoman empire. Whether or not the other Balkan nations will join is a matter yet to be decided. (We need someone to rp Bulgaria or Greece.) Argentina is at war with Uraguay, Paraguay, and Bolivia. Italy resolved its issues with Austria-Hungary. Japan is allied with China, and both seem to have good relations with the central powers (Japan is actually allied with Germany.) Britain seems to want to be neutral in any war that might happen between the central powers and the rest of Europe. Denmark seems to be cozying up with France and Russia. As far as the United States goes; nothing really has happened.

If anyone has anything else to add to that, go ahead.
Im not at war with Uruguay, I moved my troops in there to protect my assests. There is no war with Uruguay, they're just occupied.

Also, I'll RP Greece or Bulgaria. If I am given the stats for these countries

Ok, but there is no reason Uraguay wouldn't declare war. They could oust your troops from their country and then endanger the flank of your troops moving into the east of Bolivia.

Ok, but there is no reason Uraguay wouldn't declare war. They could oust your troops from their country and then endanger the flank of your troops moving into the east of Bolivia.
yeah, the mighty forces of Uruguay, would oust me, I have more than enough troops, they would be squashed.

I got the Malvinas!!! *thrust*

(If the US 'occupied' Canada, do you think we would simply do it and have it done? Canada's Army in comparison to the US Military is much weaker than Uruguay's in comparison to Argentina's. They may be guaranteed to lose... but by God they would fight. There is always... always resistance to any and all military action. You cant just walk into a country and say they didnt resist... this is why you should always have a Mod RP foriegn nations when acting towards them.)

Fine, I'm now fighting in Uruguay (I would just like to mention that noone opposed my takeover of them a couple pages back on the IC thread)

Well then, I'll go ahead and make a factbook. I'll assume that from 1900 on out that USA has done nothing on the international scale except maybe work on itself.

Well with the US involved I am sure you will in a few days.

All right, Franberry, these are the essential stats that I got on Bulgaria and Greece.

The Balkan League of Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro has been formed in the last few years amongst competing Balkans powers who have united to fight the Ottomans. Particularly the Serbs and Bulgars have no love for each other but they IRL worked and fought together very well when against the bigger enemy in the Ottomans. The Balkans League forces, including the Bulgarians and Greeks have better arms and artillery than the Turks, much acquired from Russia, France, and Britain; though the Ottomans are now upgrading to match the rest of Europe. In general the Bulgarian, Greek, and Serb men are better trained and determined, the only real Ottomans advantage being fairly good defensive positions. The Balkan League also can marshal more men than the Ottomans can due to national sentiment and nearness to the battlefield while the Ottoman population base is much further away.

Bulgaria's led by Tsar Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, but the reins are held manily by Prime Minister Ivan Geshov.

The Bulgarians have several armies, the largest contingent in the League the 1st Army under General Vasil Kutinchev, which was made up of 79,370 men. The 2nd Army was under the command of General Nikola Ivanov and consisted of 122,748 men. The 3rd Army was commanded by General Radko Dimitriev and was made up of 94,884 men. There were 48,523 soldiers in the west facing Macedonia, while an additional 33,180 men were in the Rhodope Mountains. There were 16,000 irregulars of the Macedonian Thracian Volunteers in Rhodope. All in all, the total of men in the Bulgarian army was 599,878. Generally their greatest target was to seize Adrianople and drive to the sea, cutting off Constantinople, even taking the Ottoman capital.

The Greeks are led by King George I, but much of the power and overall Greek military command is in the hands of Crown Prince Constantine. The Greek forces number around 250,000 men when mobilized, the greatest portion being 140,000 or so in the main Army. The Greek objectives before the war were to march north through Thessaly into Macedonia and take the cities of Karditsa, Larissa, Magnesia, Trikala, and Thessaloniki before uniting in central Macedonia with the rest of the Balkan League troops.

The Serbs under my control are to march south and through northern Macedonia, Kosovo, and Thrace towards the sea and the Vardar valley and even Thessalonica, hitting the major cities of Pristina, Minastir, Durrazo, and Skopje on the way.

Here is the plan the leaders concocted from before the war from what I can figure. The allied plan of attack counted on the Bulgarian 2nd Army’s advancing into eastern Macedonia from Bulgaria, from there cutting off any escaping Turkish troops in the Vardar Valley, while also preventing Turkish re-enforcements from reaching Macedonia. The 3rd Army would advance south into Kosovo and move to attack the Ottoman left flank in central Macedonia. The three armies were to meet in Ovche Polje east of Skopje and then possibly marching on Constantinople.

The majority of the Turkish forces before the war were known to be posted in central Macedonia - the Vardar Valley, or Morava.

And Argentina is invading other countries. Wait a sec, wouldn't Brazil have something to say bout that?

I'm still here. Just waiting to have something interesting happen with China or some kind of event or incident that requires China's participation.

Yes, but Brazil hasn't logged on in quite a while.

Shouldn't someone NPC Brazil then? I mean truthfully if the US didn't do something I am sure as hell Brazil would.

Kroanda, welcome to the game! Got a nice factbook there.

Truitt, you're the US. Welcome!

I'll RP Greece. Japan hasn't a lot to do now, so...

Shouldn't someone NPC Brazil then?


Probably, but until now it seemed I was the only one who noticed any of this; and since I am Argentina's ally I am not going to be rping Brazil. Although I would suggest that first someone contact the Brazilian player to see if they are still playing and tell them about the situation.

Who is playing Brazil?

Jihadin.

Ok, so Fran is Bulgaria and Warta is Greece. Now we need to get Voxio on so we can get this war done before World War One starts.

Jihadin.

Ok, so Fran is Bulgaria and Warta is Greece. Now we need to get Voxio on so we can get this war done before World War One starts.
ooooooooooooooook!

and about this Brazil thing, if you people are gonna make a big deal about me invading other countreis, DO SO WHEN I INVADE, not 6 months afterwards. Its been a couple of RL days since I invaded those people, and a week or 2 since i've been putting trade sanctions on them. And anyways, Brazil is my ally.

I know the Jihadin version of Brazil is your ally, but if he is gone then all bets are off. But I don't really care about Brazil. As far as Uraguay goes; I didn't mention it earlier because they didn't have anywhere near enough power to fight back. With you at war with Paraguay and Bolivia though, they might feel like it is now or never. Of course, with the assistance you are getting from your allies it is by default never. I thought they might try though, that's the only reason I mentioned it.

I know the Jihadin version of Brazil is your ally, but if he is gone then all bets are off. But I don't really care about Brazil. As far as Uraguay goes; I didn't mention it earlier because they didn't have anywhere near enough power to fight back. With you at war with Paraguay and Bolivia though, they might feel like it is now or never. Of course, with the assistance you are getting from your allies it is by default never. I thought they might try though, that's the only reason I mentioned it.
Still, I thoink I should be allied with Brazil for a bit atleast, I should'nt make an opponent just cuz the other dude could not sign in, plus, such a sudden change: Ally to Enemy, would not be very easy to make.

WWII... USA + Soviet Union = Best Buds.

After WWII... USA + Soviet Union = Mortal Enemies on the Brink of Nuclear War.

WWII... USA + Soviet Union = Best Buds.

After WWII... USA + Soviet Union = Mortal Enemies on the Brink of Nuclear War.
Thast beacause they shared a common enemy, and not much else, Argentina and Brazil share strong historycal and economical ties, and have been friends ever since the War of the Triple Alliance

When two nations intrests conflict, they will become rivals, possibly even enemies. You both are competing for the same area of influence, regardless of whether Brazil is actually attacking these regions. Brazillian business' definitly have intrests and ties in the areas you are taking under your control. This will anger the business' of Brazil. Now who really controls any non-communist nation? The politicians? Or the Business' and Conglomerations who run the country, pay the politicians, and keep them in power? Disputes come from two nations wanting the same thing. You are taking things valuable to Brazil. This will not make them happy. Brazil may not attack, they probably wont attack... but in all likliness, they are sending Volenteer Armies and money to the defending nations to protect their own intrests. Regardless, when the conflict is over, they arent going to be buddy buddy with ya.

Believe it or not, Japan and the US were good friends back in the day. They were economic partners, shared friendly diplomatic relations, and helped each other out in foriegn affairs. Why then did they attack us in WWII? We became bitter rivals in East Asia. During the Imperial Period of the early 20th century, the US and Japan began butting heads as each power scrambled to claim influence and land. The friends went to war within 30 years. The situation directly reflects your situation in South America with Brazil... only, you dont have the Pacific Ocean dividing your nations. Friends can turn to enemies lighting fast when their 'turf' is tread on.

When two nations intrests conflict, they will become rivals, possibly even enemies. You both are competing for the same area of influence, regardless of whether Brazil is actually attacking these regions. Brazillian business' definitly have intrests and ties in the areas you are taking under your control. This will anger the business' of Brazil. Now who really controls any non-communist nation? The politicians? Or the Business' and Conglomerations who run the country, pay the politicians, and keep them in power? Disputes come from two nations wanting the same thing. You are taking things valuable to Brazil. This will not make them happy. Brazil may not attack, they probably wont attack... but in all likliness, they are sending Volenteer Armies and money to the defending nations to protect their own intrests. Regardless, when the conflict is over, they arent going to be buddy buddy with ya.

Believe it or not, Japan and the US were good friends back in the day. They were economic partners, shared friendly diplomatic relations, and helped each other out in foriegn affairs. Why then did they attack us in WWII? We became bitter rivals in East Asia. During the Imperial Period of the early 20th century, the US and Japan began butting heads as each power scrambled to claim influence and land. The friends went to war within 30 years. The situation directly reflects your situation in South America with Brazil... only, you dont have the Pacific Ocean dividing your nations. Friends can turn to enemies lighting fast when their 'turf' is tread on.
ok, the US-Japanese thing, did not happen instantly, it happened over a period of years.

Jihadin.

Ok, so Fran is Bulgaria and Warta is Greece. Now we need to get Voxio on so we can get this war done before World War One starts.
You'll have to wait until Saturday night. I'm finishing up my term project due tomorrow. After that I may be able to come online, but my mom wants me to come to her house over night and she has no internet.

Go ahead and post something. I'll respond to it as soon as I can.

P.S. Next Tuesday will be a bad day for a war as well, it's my 18th Birthday and I don't think my family will let me use the internet.

You'll have to wait until Saturday night. I'm finishing up my term project due tomorrow. After that I may be able to come online, but my mom wants me to come to her house over night and she has no internet.

Go ahead and post something. I'll respond to it as soon as I can.

P.S. Next Tuesday will be a bad day for a war as well, it's my 18th Birthday and I don't think my family will let me use the internet.
Happy Birthday!!!!!

Ok Fran, Warta, and Titicus, you heard him; attack. You better do a crappy attack too, if the Ottomans lose this it will hinder my plans greatly. I'm warning you! *Shakes fist*

You'll have to wait until Saturday night. I'm finishing up my term project due tomorrow. After that I may be able to come online, but my mom wants me to come to her house over night and she has no internet.

Go ahead and post something. I'll respond to it as soon as I can.

P.S. Next Tuesday will be a bad day for a war as well, it's my 18th Birthday and I don't think my family will let me use the internet.

Happy Birthday, Voxio! Finally the big independent 18! Haha.

Speaking of birthdays, my birthday was this past Monday (the 3rd).

Yes happy birhtday to everyone whose got one.

Happy Birthday, Voxio! Finally the big independent 18! Haha.

Speaking of birthdays, my birthday was this past Monday (the 3rd).
happy birthday

Okay, I'm back and I'll reply to the IC's as soon as I can.

Happy Birthday both of you!

Sorry that I haven't posted a few days, I felt slighlty ill and (as always :rolleyes: ) my mom immediately forbids me to even touch my computer... *Sigh*

Oh, and for those interested, my birthday is still a long way;)

noones posting in the IC thread

I will, just checking all the stuff etc.

ps. My Allies should check their TG's...

IMPORTANT REMINDER!!!

If you haven't posted your Factbook yet, please do so. It is crucial for diplomacy and general information about your nation! Every one who hasn't done so within a week will be expelled.

Just a reminder for everyone who hasn't seen this yet. You have two days left...

owwwww, sh*t! I forgot that Meiji died in July 1912 :headbang: Well, he had an extra 6 months. I'll let him die tomorrow (almost sounds like murder :eek: )

haha

owwwww, sh*t! I forgot that Meiji died in July 1912 :headbang: Well, he had an extra 6 months. I'll let him die tomorrow (almost sounds like murder :eek: )

Actually, the beauty of alternate history is that people can die at different times. For example, my Prince Tuan was supposed to die in 1901, executed during the Boxer Rebellion, but in this timeline he wasn't.

In our RL timeline, Meiji died in July 1912, but in our alternate timeline, he could have lived for several more years or died a few years earlier. Why? He could have met different people and got different germs from them, or ate different combination of foods giving him the extra bit of nutrients that could have extended his lifespan.

This concept can apply to anyone in alternate history, actually.

ANd nothing is a factor against fate. As the royal RUssian family learned here. MWAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!

Warta, what are the possibilities of me taking the Spain slot?

Its free and up for grabs!

And for the Meiji thing, he died at a honorable age of 60, and I think the stage is set for a Semi-Insane Emperor aka Emperor Taisho (poor bastard caught menignitis after his birth)...

Ugh that is extremelly bad luck. I mean really. Yech. Anyways, Mejji could have lived to 67. That'd be honorable too. I mean who'd expect Socrates living til his age when he did. Shocking.

I was wondering if we had an official mapmaker for here?

Ugh that is extremelly bad luck. I mean really. Yech. Anyways, Mejji could have lived to 67. That'd be honorable too. I mean who'd expect Socrates living til his age when he did. Shocking.
dint they kill him?

How old was Socrates? The first Roman Emperor (Octavian/Augustus) was eighty-freakin-two.

I was wondering if we had an official mapmaker for here?
I'm not official, but I'm good with maps. It's not 100% accurate because there's a few modern nations that I'm not sure who controlled them, but here.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/zekk55/WorldDomination/new.png

If you guys can point out any mistakes that would be great.

All that stuff in red, I think that is supposed to be Germany's. Just to be safe you better give me the dark brown and blue stuff too.

Isn't Iceland Denmark's, though? Cyprus is Britain's.

I'm not official, but I'm good with maps. It's not 100% accurate because there's a few modern nations that I'm not sure who controlled them, but here.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/zekk55/WorldDomination/new.png

If you guys can point out any mistakes that would be great.

Nice overall map.

However, there's a couple of issues. Isn't Argentina invading Uruguay, Bolivia, and Paraguay?

Also, China owns Mongolia (as Mongolia historically didn't gain independence until 1911 in RL) and in this timeline, the Chinese government is much more stable and prosperous than the RL one, seeing that China emerged victorious from the Boxer Rebellion (and a new dynasty was created).

Therefore quite a bit of the reasons why Mongolia became independent are now absent in this timeline.

All that stuff in red, I think that is supposed to be Germany's. Just to be safe you better give me the dark brown and blue stuff too.
No no no, all the red stuff is Ottoman, I just forgot about that. Though I'm sure you are right about Germany having all the brown...like the French could hold an empire pfft.

Anyways, I forget who iceland belongs to, I thought it was Norway with iceland and denmark with Greenland. I'll fix Cyprus.

Isn't Iceland Denmark's, though? Cyprus is Britain's.
Anyways, I forget who iceland belongs to, I thought it was Norway with Iceland and Denmark with Greenland. I'll fix Cyprus.

However, there's a couple of issues. Isn't Argentina invading Uruguay, Bolivia, and Paraguay?
Yea, but I'm pretty sure they have yet to officially gain control of those lands. The moment I see that Fran has them under his control I'll edit the map.

And trust me when I say that, I play arround with maps all day trying to decide which lands people would have to take over to make their nations more pleasing to the eye...I know it's wierd, but it's something I do when I'm bored [And for the record, I would have to take over arabia Iran and Egypt to make my nation look pretty].

Also, China owns Mongolia (as Mongolia historically didn't gain independence until 1911 in RL) and in this timeline, the Chinese government is much more stable and prosperous than the RL one, seeing that China emerged victorious from the Boxer Rebellion (and a new dynasty was created).

Therefore quite a bit of the reasons why Mongolia became independent are now absent in this timeline.
My bad, I know very little about asian history and I thought it was Russian.

Its free and up for grabs!

And for the Meiji thing, he died at a honorable age of 60, and I think the stage is set for a Semi-Insane Emperor aka Emperor Taisho (poor bastard caught menignitis after his birth)...

Slap me down for Spain then. I'll get a fact book up soon. *thumbs up*

Japan owns Taiwan and Hainan Dao :)

A pretty good map, when it's finished, I'll post the linky on the first page...

Want me to conquer Mongolia? I can if you want to make it that much more realisitic a map.

Want me to conquer Mongolia? I can if you want to make it that much more realisitic a map.

Lol:p

I'm not official, but I'm good with maps. It's not 100% accurate because there's a few modern nations that I'm not sure who controlled them, but here.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/zekk55/WorldDomination/new.png

If you guys can point out any mistakes that would be great.
Get ready to put Bolivia, Uruguay and Paraguay in light brown.

Also, the Malvinas (Falklands) arent on there, but they're mine

going on vacation, wont post for a while

The last week of April will be an on/off week for me, so Koryan has permission to command my nation until I get back. I may be on/off during that time

I want to join so can some give a run down of the story so far. Also what countries are open?

Most countries are still open, see front page

Is America open since the person didn't create a thread? Also can someone tell me what's happen so far.

The players who haven't posted their factbook threads yet have two days to do so, if you really wanna be the US, you'll have to wait. But loads of other countries are open!

Sofar all nations have been preparing for some war or something. The Balkan War is currently underway, not much happening though. Russia has been in quite a shock after the death of the Czarina and the Crownprince.

Truitt is supposedly playing the USA.

I guess Canada.

The netherlands i guess for me, unless someone called it. :sniper:

Btw what year is the rp in?

1913 that's what it says on the front page.

Cant wait to do a sparticist revolt then :) :mp5:

You mean with swords? Isn't that a little dumb?

Cant wait to do a sparticist revolt then :) :mp5:

I strongly recommend we don't allow Quamarian into this RP based off his 2 posts here and his usage of smilies. If he learns how to RP and behave maturely then I'll be inclined to accept Quamarian into the RP.

what nations are still availible?

I apologize if there is a list somewhere, i must have missed it.



edit: I noted that the year is 1913? is it possible to take Germany? If thats taken i apologize for that, and i'll take anything thats availible.


thank you :)

Germany is taken look on the front page.

My mistake, i apologize

My thread will be up tonight on Canada. It take time to look up information. Also I think that England is still in charge of the Navy so one less thing to do. If i'm accepted.

lol. So less threads to put up. THat's helpful sometimes.

Canadstein, you're Canada! Welcome to the RP!

For the others, loads of other nations are open.

Quamarian, learn to RP according to the "Forum Etiquette" (ps. the Spartacist Revolution was in Germany :)

ooc:Can i be the netherlands pls?

Canadstein, you're Canada! Welcome to the RP!

For the others, loads of other nations are open.

Quamarian, learn to RP according to the "Forum Etiquette" (ps. the Spartacist Revolution was in Germany :)


ooc: I know i wanted to destroy the weimar republic! :)How would i portray rosa though 0.0

Here is Canada http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10765016#post10765016

A Danish plantation company in the Hawaiian islands is trying to make good relations with the rebels against Queen Liliuokalani, and the Danish navy is on it's way to support an uprising by the rebels.

If the rebels overthrow the queen, Denmark plans to make Hawaii a royal Danish colony, Hawaii is free to elect their own governor if it turns in our favor.

(I'm trying to do what America did 5 years earlier, does someone want to RP this out and say what would happen? I'm starting to supply the rebels with modern Dutch weapons like the Krag-Jørgensen's and MG08's)


Have I acquired Hawaii yet?

Would anyone object to Franz Joseph dying a few years early?

Not really. It's amazing he lived as long as he did.

okay, this works well then

I'mmmmmmmm back bitches!!!

I'mmmmmmmm back bitches!!!

Guess who's back...back again...Fran is back...back again :fluffle:

Okay guys, I'm back. I've been having trouble accessing the forums, but it seems to have passed, so I'll catch up and try to get back to work soon.

Welcome back everyone.

ooc. I think you've a lot more to do, Sukiada! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10785895#post10785895)

As Mod I propose to slow the rate down to one week per day, because you can call this a MAJOR war.

Well you need to clear that up. As in someone needs to state this. Though it does give me a unity and the ability to pull a reverse Napoleon. Remember the longer I can stretch the war, the worse off it is for you.

One week per day sounds good.

Did I do anything OOC, cause personally I think the whole world ganging on Russia is rather uncommon. We haven't really done anything beyond it, and so if this is based on my RPin I'd like to know so I can just quit.

No, it is based on the fact that Russia is a threat. If we take you out before you industrialize then we won't have to worry about you becoming a superpower.

Hate to tell you, but you are about 10 years too late. Russia started industrializing in the decade before this. I am already the fastest growing industrial power in the world, and unlike real history Russia, I handled it better. Which means I have about 2 million rifles and more artillery. And with the whole world against me I'll have to be defenses. Well and slaughter Austrians.

I meant once you industrialize to the point Russia was in the 40's in RL. I doubt whatever you have been able to do in the last four years has altered enough to match that kind of power.

Hate to tell you, but you are about 10 years too late. Russia started industrializing in the decade before this. I am already the fastest growing industrial power in the world, and unlike real history Russia, I handled it better. Which means I have about 2 million rifles and more artillery. And with the whole world against me I'll have to be defenses. Well and slaughter Austrians.
Ummmmm, first of all, that really quick industrialization (especially cuz u said there was internal trouble at the beggining of the RP), and anyways, it dosent matter how many rifles or men you have, because we have more. If you want to defend yourself propely against us, you'll have to pull a lot of stuff from the industry, and we have massive superiority in everything, except the climate of your nation. Also, you cant just say his attack was late, and you cannot state the equipment he has. You state the Russo-Japanese war to state the difficulties the Japs had, and you dont think that they would've learnt? and gotten winter clothing? and better equipment?

In that case, I quit playing RUssia. I am three weeks from graduating from college and this campaing would take away from time needed for that. So in relation I withdraw from this RP. Divide Russia in whatever way you want.

Did I do anything OOC, cause personally I think the whole world ganging on Russia is rather uncommon. We haven't really done anything beyond it, and so if this is based on my RPin I'd like to know so I can just quit.
I just was going to support them because you've made threats toward the Ottoman Empire.

And Russia has made quite a few agressive actions against Argentina
I point to the Chile thread

I would suggest finding a new Russia but since it won't be long I figure we should just have someone here temp for Russia until we can conquer it.

I would suggest finding a new Russia but since it won't be long I figure we should just have someone here temp for Russia until we can conquer it.

I will play Russia.

I will also put my name forward as a possible temp as an ally of Russia

I am withdrawing from this RP, simply beacuse I haven't got the time to continue roleplaying to this extent as well as keeping up in school.

State of France:
President considering the idea of postponing the election to grant himself the power he needs to prepare France for a war with Germany. This war was brought much closer to the present time by the Balkan crisis.

Nationalist elements inside France are growing impatient and call for an immediate reconquest of Alsace-Lorraine/Elsass-Lothringen.

The French airforce is the fastest growing branch in the French armed forces, and amongst the largest in the world. The aim is to become the largest and best equipped before the 1920's.

The French navy has launched several new dreadnoughts, and are now constructing up to date DDs and CLs.

The French army has adopted Plan 17, a strategy meant to dictate how a war against Germany will be fought.

Mountain troops have been stationed in the French Alps, along the border to Switzerland and Italy. The (secret) plan is to cross the Swiss Alps to attack Germany's rear in case of war, while troops facing the Italians will defend against any enemy troops, should Itlay break its agreement.

I think that's all.

Well, to bad to see you leace Sukiada. From my part I enjoyed Rping with you (even though we were mortal enemies :D). Good luck with you're exams both of ya!

I propose we first take a few days to search for a new Russia, while pausing the RP. If no one reacts, Ticitus can take over (sorry, Pythogria, but you're already "on the other side") as he's a close ally of Russia etc. etc.

Bad to see both of you leave, hope we can get replacements soon

In case of war, Denmark stands by their long time ally, Germany. If Germany would attack any country, Denmark will not aid in the attack, but aid in the defense of Germany's territory.

So what is happening, is it like WWI now? Sorry the forums were down for me and I counldn't get on...

Serbia was more Russian bitch than anything. They stayed donw there and helped Russia fight the Turks. I would know because I was born in former Yugoslavia and lived there for 11 years. I've only lived in Canada for the past 4 years...

Bumpo, please remain interested guys! Wre will continue once we have a Russia!

China and Japan, historical enemies, are fighting together.

Bulgaria only fought Serbia IRL because they fought a war IRL which didn't happen here, in which Romania attacked Bulgaria and defeated it IRL, but we have no Romania so that can't happen, not to mention Bulgaria would never take a deal with the Ottomans anywways.

Greece defeated the Ottoman Empire decisively in a string of battles, which Voxio will not believe can happen and the Greece rper hasn't done anything.

Russia was allied with France who was allied with Britain, so those nations should be fighting Germany and Austria now, but that is not happening.

Chile and Argentina, longtime rivals have not only made up but have sent major forces abroad to fight Russia.

Denmark is allied to Germany, the nations that took half its land.

Japan did not go to war historically with Japan because it knew that a prolonged war in eastern asia would lead to a Russian victory. In 1905, after Japan defeated Russia, a Russian army was about to defeat the Japanese and retake all the lands when revolution occured at home. It still took 8 months to take one city, Port Arthur

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As such, I believe that this rp has gone to far to the point that it is no longer plausible and I also will resign as Serbia

[snip]
China ~ No arguments there.

Bulgaria ~ You have no ability to decide if they would have accepted an Ottoman offer. With the Germans, Austrians and Italians on the Ottoman side there's plenty of reason for them to change what happened in real life for the land they were granted.

Greece ~ Oh, I believe they could defeat my when three nation's combined total of soldier's serpassed that of my nation as well as surrounding the land they were fighting for. That's without mentioning that several of them were naval victories due to their superior navy. Thanks to several other nations I have a navy superior to the greek one.

Russia ~ I believe Fronce would have supported them [As RL suggested for the next player], however, as demonstrated in World War I, Britain will not be so quick to jump in. Especially with Germany ending the arms race.

Chile and Argentina ~ Once again, I agree with you. Getting past rivalries is one thing, but I don't see what they could gain out of that war.

Japan ~ Not only was thewre already a war brewing in the west to help defeat the Russians, but they had china backing them up. Plkenty of reason to go to war with their enemy.

I'm confused.

The reason why I threw my backing behind Japan in the war is because of two reasons.

1. Repayment for Japanese aid in modernizing and training China's military. Actions do speak louder than words.

2. China did have an ancient claim to Siberia, since before Russia even existed. 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000+ years ago, there were no "pale white Europeans" living in Siberia- the population there was Asian.

All I am saying is that China and Japan fought a war very recently, and have fought several wars in their history, not to mention the fact that both truly do hate each other and believe they are superior

Maybe pulling out was a little premature, but it is not a lot of fun when so many factors add together to make no chance of victory

All I am saying is that China and Japan fought a war very recently, and have fought several wars in their history, not to mention the fact that both truly do hate each other and believe they are superior

Maybe pulling out was a little premature, but it is not a lot of fun when so many factors add together to make no chance of victory

True.

However, China does have yet another reason to get back at Russia- the actions taken by Russia just after the Sino-Japanese war of 1894-95 (the whole incident about marching to Port Arthur and the annexation). China wants to pay Russia back "one", as well as do to Russia what Russia did to China.

Enemies have been known to work together for a common goal both in RL and fiction.

Well, I am pretty sure France will declare war once we find someone to rp them. Voxio already pointed out why Britain is somewhat unlikely to join. As for China, I understand. Perhaps we can come to a compramise regarding them.

And not to forget, the oldest alliance Britain had in this RP and RL, the Anglo-Japanese Alliance which was signed in 1902. And Japan has been very active in the Diplomatioc Field, that's also a reason why they got a lot of countries to participate in the Great War. CHile and Argentina are Japanese Allies and were requested if they got troops which they could use in the war, so.

Denmark and Germnay had a long history as allies and as friends, because their peoples were so alike.

Denmark did not hate Germans, they hated the Prussians. In the Second War of Schleswig, or the war between Prussia and Austria against the Danish Empire. Prussia saw the situation when Danish King Frederick VII had no heir to the throne. This opened a gap to where Prussia could take over the German land under Denmark. Denmark had Prussian supply lines cut with their vastly superior navy, but with support from Austria in men and supplies became greater and the Danish Navy could no longer help in the mainly land conflict.

After losing a strong of defeats to the Prussian on land. They retreated from Germany and were able to hold some of Northern Germany. This was a futile attempt, for Prussian soldiers were accompanied by the Austrian army, and together crushed the Danish front. They moved quickly to attack Copenhagen, but were stopped by a last-ditch cavalry attack on the combined army. This saved the Danish, and ended the war, but Denmark lost all it's former German territory to the new Prussian regime.

Now that Prussia has fallen, the Germans are again in control of their own empire. This was a great relief to the Danish who were always weary of a Prussian attack on their borders. Now I came in and made a formal alliance with Germany, now that it is it's own country.

We still hate Prussia....

Austria sucks too, but not as badly....

now that Prussia has fallen? No, its Prussia which took over all of Germany

Great, I come back to play and everyone leaves. Why does this always happen?

Well, I agree with Titicus; didn't Prussia take over all of Germany?

And Haneastic, two (very important) people left, and I've paused the game untill we find replacements. If we don't find a new Russia and France soon, Titicus or someone else may take over.

Prussia took over the rest of Germany peacefully, and defated Denmark to take over ethnically German Schleswig-Holstein

Yes, but Denmark would see Germany as an independent nation fromerly under their control, not a Prussian state. So I think an alliance would be ethnically correct, in my opinion, it would be like a Russia-Jugoslavia alliance, kinda...

Denmark making an alliance with Russia? It would seem to me that Denmark would not want to anger Germany

Well, we really need a Russia.

PLAYERS NEEDED FOLKS!!!

We have a bunch of non-needed nations we could try to change, I'll also try to ask people elswere if you want me to

Denmark making an alliance with Russia? It would seem to me that Denmark would not want to anger Germany

WTF, I compared the Denmark-Germany alliance to the Serbia-Russia alliance. I stick with Germany, but I buy my guns from France =D

Well, actually if you guys need a Russia that badly, I am half Russian (other half Jugoslavian), so I think I know enough to RP Russia. If you give me enough information what Russia was doing, I think I could do it. Since Denmark isn't really a key player, so to say...

NNNNNOOOO We lost Denmark!. I'd say you're more than welcome to play, and do so soon so we don't lose anyone else

As for the Denmark-Germany thing, I got confused and thought you were allying with Russia

If someone like the Keltoi Tribes or another small nation wants to play as France, I would also accpet and encourage them to play, and start soon

i would play as Russia, all you need to do is tell me what the pre. Russian player did

Keltoi tribe is gone. Someone want to update Nebarri_Prime?

Nebarri Prime, welcome to the game! I'll tell you later what the previous Russian player did, or someone else can tell you. I have to go now. A Spanish (well, Catalan :P) guy is here for the entire week, so I'll be busy till friday.

In summary, Russia began modernizing and invaded Austria-Hungary wheh I invaded Serbia. You can see a full outline of his battleplans in the IC thread, and the Siberian front on a link in the second to last page

So, who's Russia now? I'm confused...

I can play as France is Nebarri wants to do Russia...

But I wouldn't sustain my ground of expertise, in Russia or Serbia...

we don't especially need France right now because they aren't fighting or anything, we need Serbia and Russia first

hmmmm

Well, France might be fighting if we had one.

lol, we are getting NOWHERE, this happened in the first Age of Imperialism. Please, someone decide who plays what. I can play as Denmark, and Russia or Denmark and Serbia, and someone can take over Denmark while I fully play as my homeland. Warta, please help...

Ok, Nebarri, I think you're Russia, just post your plans on the IC forum soon so we don't lose the game. Sorry If I sound annoyed, I just don't want it to die again

well, I could switch to France and let adromedan be serbian, or I could remain serbia

AARRGGHH!!! Okay, lets try to get this for the last time

Nebarri Prime- Russia
Andromedean- Serbia
Titicus- France

Sound good to everyone? Nebbari Prime, you're set, so just post some moves if you will

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479787

fact book

yay, when i said i would be Russia i didn't expect to find myself at war with half the world...

it will be hard to keep up, but i'll do what i can

all right

new France thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10856546#post10856546

i was planing on geting started this weekend...but looks like i might not be on much...

excellent, now we can get started again

I think it's my move on the Eastern Front, so I'll make my move

Yay, I'm back again!

Thanks for your organization Hanseastic, and thanks to all you guys who didn't give up!

So shall we continue were we left?

ps. please post your stuff in the war thread I made. I'll post the thread in the first post.

Sweet, back from the death

Sorry to post this here, but Franberry, you haven't responded to my telegram and you are needed in the Near Future United States rp... if you haven't quit, that is, in which case just let me know.

bump!

yay...this is my "secondary" RP and i can bearly keep up with my first on atm...hope i can post something soon

it did get crazy for a while on the 18th century one (I assume that's what you're talking about).

Also, I suggest we wait until Russia can post for us to do anything else.

Also, I suggest we wait until Russia can post for us to do anything else.

I Concur, let the "other side" get some chance to catch up. I can imagine the French wouldn't like an invasion in Indochina for example.

Yea, I was looking at the posts, and wondering, how did they arrive in Hanoi? that's what it looked to me at least. Also, I was looking at a map of 1910, and Morrocco didn't seem to be controlled by anyone. Should we count them as neutral or assume they were annexed by France?

Yea, I was looking at the posts, and wondering, how did they arrive in Hanoi? that's what it looked to me at least

Are they there already? I thought Sharina just started the invasion...

Morrocco was part French, part Spanish in 1910.

And Indochina being a French colony, there were already French troops there. I am calling them up and ordering them to gather in Hanoi, mainly.

And it will take Sharina just as long to get his troops ready to invade as for me to gather my troops, probably longer